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okay by comparison Voa and Tapa look like thriving modern democracies
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There are a lot of Amentan countries. Vanda Nossëo representatives are dispatched to all of them. These Elves (two with black hair, one with silver) take a shuttle down from the lightleaper to a country called Calado, and radio ahead to request permission to land at a elegant modern spaceport.

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They get permission. Then it's rescinded. Then they are supposed to submit a statement of their intentions before they can have permission.

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Uh, okay. They are here to introduce themselves to the Calador government, establish lines of communication, make material available about intergalactic consortiums and how to become a member of one, and offer emergency aid if required, particularly if required in relation to the food crisis.

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They should come to this one location over here. They should come to the capital. They should go away.

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...well there are three of them, would it work if one went away and one went to each of those locations?

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No. Sure! Absolutely not. Wait come meet this senator in the Free State of Oahk instead.

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The Free State of Oahk is getting their own emissaries. Is this, like, a bad time, should they come back later.

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They should go away and not come back! They should stay. They can still meet a Calador senator in Oahk can't they?

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...it would be kind of hard to explain to their superiors why they did that instead of meeting the Calador senate in Calado.

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Because the senator asked them to?

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How many senators are there?

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Three hundred. This one is on vacation. He is definitely the one they should be talking to.

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...if they sent three hundred people, one to talk to each senator, would that solve this, uh, complicated problem.

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Nope they should definitely not do that.

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Okay. They will try again in a week.

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No!!!

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They are hoping that in a week whatever disaster is currently impeding ordinary coordination will be resolved and they can receive clearer instructions.

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Someone nips up and scoops their shuttle out of the sky and tows it down.

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Three mildly annoyed Elves write home to notify their superiors that Calado seems to have principled concerns about centralized power. Or something.

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They are escorted out of their shuttle by some greys!

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"Uh, hello."

"I don't think you're really supposed to do that?"

"We could have gotten hurt."

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"Orders," says one of the greys. They are patted down for weapons.

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They're unarmed. "You mean that you're not the person we should take that up with? Who is the person we should take that up with?"

"Why are you touching us?"

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"Checking to see if you've got anything on you before we take you to the senator."

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"...okay."

"Does Calado usually have someone in charge who is currently indisposed or ill or something?"

"I said I think it's a principled objection to centralized power."

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"...there's just senators," says a grey.

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"I'm sure it's a lovely place to live."

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"Eh."

"Weather's nice."

"This way."

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Elves follow.

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Senator! "I apologize for the abrupt escort," she smiles.

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"That was not a very good idea, someone could have been hurt. It's nice to meet you all the same. I'm Mólie."

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"Datna. Were the greys not careful with you?"

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"I mean if you'd been mistaken about how our shuttle was constructed, or about how fragile our species is. Our escort was very friendly."

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"I'm glad to hear it. So what is your interest in Calado?"

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"The interstellar consortium we represent is making contact with every Amentan government to offer food aid, discuss the criteria for membership in our consortium, and set up lines of communication."

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"What form of food aid?"

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"Apparently there was recently a crisis. We'd be happy to provide food and assist with distribution if Calado's citizens are suffering as a result of that crisis."

      "If Calado's citizens are just going hungry more generally, for structural reasons rather than situational ones, we can help with that too but it requires more care to make sure we're not disrupting the local markets and so on."

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"The food markets are functioning fine. We didn't import much from Voa but of course the price of everything's gone up. I can get you someone to talk to in the industry if that's what you need."

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"I think the decision we had reached was to depart for a week and learn more to try to approach Calado in a manner more in keeping with its distaste for centralized authority."

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"Not sure what you mean by that."

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"We were getting contradictory explanations of where to go and who to talk to. We decided that we should leave and come back when we better understood how your government works. This assessment was not changed by our shuttle being dragged out of the sky."

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"How were you planning to learn about it?"

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"Perhaps some of our colleagues in other countries have met some locals who could provide insight and advice."

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"That doesn't seem very charitable, hearing about us secondhand."

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"We did try to come here first."

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"And I invited you down and you said you weren't coming after all."

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"We received a lot of contradictory communications, including some requests to leave."

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"Well, now you're here."

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"With all due respect, it seems uniquely unwise to have our point of communications with Calado be the person within Calado who was willing to attack our shuttle."

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"They didn't hurt you."

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"I don't think they even damaged the shuttle; it's still flyable. It has been nice meeting you."

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"You said you'd be happy to help," says Datna lightly.

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"We're very much looking forward to the opportunity, once we have a little more information."

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"I can answer your questions."

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"May we speak to the other two hundred and ninety nine senators?"

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"You've already noticed what happens if you try to talk to them all at once."

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"May we walk around in Calado and meet people?"

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"With an escort."

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"Whatever for?"

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"Protection."

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"Oh, we're not very concerned about that and we're very concerned an escort might impede seeing things we'd want to see or meeting people we'd consider it important to talk to."

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"Nonetheless."

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"Why don't we head back to our ship, consult with our superiors, and let you know tomorrow whether it seems appropriate to take you up on that."

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"That doesn't sound like the best plan."

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"Oh?"

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"I think you should explain what you came here to explain about your consortium and so on. I can pass it on to the rest of the senators as appropriate."

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The Elves look at each other. 

"I'm sorry, but I don't think we can do that."

"That means 'no'," says one of the others, helpfully. "Not 'talk us into it'. No thank you, we're going to head out now."

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"I don't think so," she says.

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...Elves look at each other.

 

Elves turn and walk towards the door.

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There are greys there.

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Elves attempt to walk past them.

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Greys close ranks.

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"We're leaving," Mólië says. "It was lovely meeting you. Please move."

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"Nope," says a grey.

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"- look, when this comes to the attention of our superiors they're going to be pretty upset, they might arrest involved parties for kidnapping, that would be a little ridiculous."

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"Your superiors aren't authorized to make arrests in Calado."

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An Elf pulls a notepad and pen out of her bag and starts writing something in pretty, loopy Quenya.

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Datna raises an eyebrow and doesn't try to stop her.

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After a few minutes she puts the notepad away. 

 

Elves start singing.

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"..that's very nice but perhaps we could get to the point."

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"We're not going to give you more information because you threatened us," one of the Elves says. 

"That'd be terrible incentives, wow."

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"I have no intention of harming you."

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"Oh, good."

 

Singing.

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"But perhaps you would care to explain who sent you."

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They apparently do not care to.

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Datna persists in asking.

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Datna is ignored. 

 

After about half an hour there is a pop and another Elf is standing there. Golden-haired. 

"Your grace," says Mólie.

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"Can you not. And do you want a ride home?"

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"That sounds lovely."

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"- how did you -"

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"I teleported. Was there some kind of misunderstanding you want to straighten out."

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"They said they wanted to help with food and explain where they came from and I was trying to make that happen."

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"Ah huh. You've been here longer," he says to the Elves, "but what I'm inclined to do is file a strongly worded complaint with their government, demanding extradition -"

      "This is their government. They haven't got a - more governing - government."

"Which is sort of admirable in a way but not if you use it to kidnap people. Demanding extradition of just these people in the room or was anyone else involved -"

     "We didn't see anyone else."

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Datna grinds her teeth slightly.

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He waits a little in case she wants to apologize or something.

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Instead she wants to name another senator as a conspirator.

A grey says, "Um."

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"Yes?"

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"What's going on?"

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He makes a face. "There are aliens. There are lots of aliens. Trillions and trillions of them, in fact. There's - you know I don't actually do this for a living, Mólië -"

               "There is an intergalactic consortium called Vanda Nossëo, of which our nation is a member, which does humanitarian work and mutual aid and defense pacts and things like that, among the species of the universe. We have more than four hundred member planets. We are here to explain all of this and more to Calado, but not to the first person in Calado to kidnap us, that seems like it makes sure the information ends up in the worst possible hands. When you kidnapped us my colleague requested extraction. I - guess his grace was free and wanted to stop by personally -"

"I said not to bother with titles -"

              "I can't just call you your name, my lord!"

"Sure you can."

             "Tyelcormo decided to stop by personally to take us home. And it's very bad form to kidnap people so we need to make it clear to everyone in Calado that even if you don't have laws or whatever, you can't kidnap the citizens and subjects of Vanda Nossëo nations. It won't work and you'll always get in trouble for it. ...Tyelcormo is waiting around in case anyone wants to apologize for kidnapping us - or mention co-conspirators, I guess - or give us information that we'd need about how to handle the situation. Like, I don't know, if sending that letter would spark a civil war or get innocent people killed somehow it'd be appropriate to inform us of that. ...uh, we have lie detection, it's playing right now quieter than your hearing."

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"...playing?" says another grey.

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"I think the details of how it works should probably be among the things we do not tell the kidnappers. Though if someone wants to test it by making a buncha claims, some true and some not, that'd be fine."

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"- what kind of trouble are we in?" asks the first grey.

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"Does Calado in fact not have laws." 

       "I think they might have, like, 'do what important people say' as a law, at least in practice?"

"That's terrible."

       "We shouldn't be judgmental of other cultures."

"No, that's just terrible. Uh, the courts take into account what sentencing is considered appropriate for the species - I assume there are some countries here where kidnapping is against the law -"

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"...it wasn't obviously a kidnapping. To us," says a grey. "Somebody says go get a ship that seems plausibly something else."

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"Yeah she's going to be in more trouble than you," he says, nodding at the senator. "By a lot. What else could it have been exactly."

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"- invasion, spies, arrest -"

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Sigh. "So then they'll probably just make you take the class on illegal orders and maybe encourage you to move somewhere that has laws and lawful procedures."

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"...we can't move, nobody'll swap into Calado."

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 "So, I seriously don't do diplomacy - I breed and fly giant winged firebreathing lizards, that is how much I don't do diplomacy - but there are like two hundred forty Vanda Nossëo member states that accept immigrants and if you'd want to leave you could just make friends in illegal orders class and then go home with them."

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"...okay."

"What about our families -"

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"They can come too? By 'no one will swap into Calado' am I to take it that the other countries on this planet suck less?"

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"...haven't really traveled..."

"We've got a bad reputation but I assume everyone's got problems up close and we just don't have good - PR -"

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Nod. "Okay. Well. Our courts don't want to ruin anyone's life. People need to know that you will regret trying to kidnap and coerce our citizens, but they will take into account that you could not, actually, have known that, and you didn't hurt anyone, so you're almost certainly not going to go to jail. Not talking to you," he adds to the senator, offhandedly. "If you need to reach us for some reason you can write things on any of the pieces of paper on this notepad and we'll see them, okay?" He takes the notepad from one of the other Elves. It has a line of pretty Quenya at the top. He hands it to a grey.

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...grey takes it.

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Elves disappear.

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...well then.

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Meanwhile a different group of three Elves request permission to land in Yvalta.

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Where in Yvalta would they like to land?

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Spaceport, but they plan to make an announcement to the media in a public location and would prefer somewhere where they won't be impeded in reaching one.

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The spaceport is the province of House Ylanta, which would be pleased to welcome them.

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And not impede them talking to everybody? They really do not want to be impeded in that.

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They can go on public television if they like.

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It'll do. They land.

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They are welcomed by solicitous purples who want to know if they need anything and guarded by outward-facing greys and greeted by a blue.

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They're just here to make the announcement and then answer questions! 

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Well, there is a journalism team ready for them over there!

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"Hello! We're citizens of Ambaróna, which is a member nation of a galactic consortium called Vanda Nossëo. The universe has trillions of aliens, and we make contact with alien species based on who is the highest humanitarian priority and who has the best prospects of becoming a new member state. Membership in Vanda Nossëo confers economic and trade benefits, comes with guaranteed security against invasion or violent overthrow, and comes with limited access to some resources that are expensive even by the standards of advanced societies, like terraformed planets, immortality, resurrections, and teleportation.

We're going to present to your government the specific criteria for membership in Vanda Nossëo. But your government can't decide to make you a member state without a free, fair vote of the whole population, one vote per person old enough to write a ballot. So if they decide to go ahead, we'll be publishing information online about what this will mean for you and answering any questions you need answered in order to cast your vote with confidence. 

We're also offering aid to help with short term food and health crises, and we will look into the most tenable prospects for longer-term aid.

We want you to have free and unfiltered communications with us while we learn about your world and open normal diplomatic relations. Towards that end, we are employing a special technology of ours that allows us to get copies of any written messages addressed to us. To write us a message, please write 'Yvalta open channel' at the top of a piece of paper, and then write your message. We'll have a team reviewing these messages and taking them into consideration in making our policy recommendations. Vanda Nossëo member states all have absolute freedom of speech - you can never get in trouble for something you say - and the messages will be fully confidential and not disclosed to anyone here on Amenta without your permission. 

We're making this announcement in every country and in every language, and we were assured that this will reach everyone in Yvalta. If you know of a better way for us to reach anyone in Yvalta who might not get the whole unfiltered message this way, please write 'Yvalta open channel' at the top of a piece of paper and then write your note to us.

Questions?"

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Messages start coming in.

- They don't mean reds, do they?

- Does membership involve freedom of movement?

- What are people without paper supposed to do?

- Reds can't vote, they know that, right?

- Food would be appreciated here and there and that other place.

- What are the preconditions for resurrections?

- What are their population controls like?

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Every person old enough to fill out a ballot gets a vote in votes related to consortium membership.

Membership comes with freedom of movement for purposes of travel and work. Many member states take unlimited immigrants from any other member state, and some of the rest take immigrants with an annual cap. Member states that take immigrants get more limited resources like terraforming and immortality and resurrections. 

You can type it, too. 

Every person old enough to fill out a ballot gets a vote in votes related to consortium membership. 

Food will be delivered to those locations. 

Resurrections are available only to Vanda Nossëo member states. Within those, they're distributed based on a variety of factors and a typical member the size of Yvalta would get a thousand per Amentan year. Persons who are killed unlawfully by a citizen or subject of a Vanda Nossëo member state get resurrected at that citizen's expense, so if any Elf killed a Yvaltan the Yvaltan would get resurrected. 

Most Vanda Nossëo member states do not practice population controls of any kind. In some it's illegal to have children without demonstrating possession of adequate means to care for the child and lots restrict forking. 

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- What's forking?

- No, seriously, reds can't vote. They're not people, do the aliens understand that part? They look like it but they're not.

- Thanks for the food!

- Reds can't have freedom of movement either.

- What if the citizen can't afford it? How expensive is it?

- Why don't they practice population control? That's irresponsible.

- Do they ever take immigrants from non member states?

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Forking is getting a copy of yourself made. This Elf did it, four times, because there were lots of things she wanted to do with her life and she lives somewhere where that's allowed. 

If the reds are unable to fill out their ballots because of not being intelligent enough then those ballots presumably won't get filled out. Only ballots that are filled out will be counted.

Everyone gets freedom of movement. They can offer reds a generous contract where the reds stay in their district in exchange for payments, that's legal. There's one place where the aliens don't want to touch people of a different gender than them and this was allowed after aliens of all relevant genders were bribed into voting in favor.

Resurrections run fairly outrageous prices right now because they're so rare. You can get a payment plan if you don't have that much, or purchase insurance in advance that'll cover accidents. The insurance doesn't cover murder but if you're worried about being bankrupted you should just not commit murder.

Some species don't need population control because their birth rates are right about replacement and Elves don't because their children take a hundred twenty local years to grow up so their growth rate is glacial even though birth rates are reasonably high and some species rarely prefer to have children at all once they invent birth control and some species just have tons of space on their planet or planets and centuries before they will need to worry about that, by which time terraforming will have gotten cheaper.

There are countries that take immigrants from non member states. They're rarer but there are still hundreds. The recommended method is to buy yourself fluency in the language - they have a means of making people fluent in all known languages, it's available for sale or as a membership perk - and then go there for tourism and get some people to vouch for you and convert your visa. Amentans might be a good culture fit with orcs, who also like babies a lot and who have dozens of planets, or Mïr and its protectorates, some of which take non-member immigrants and which have extremely powerful technology that makes everyone there immortal and resurrections there free of charge. Elves take non-member immigrants who are a good cultural fit for Elven societies. They're not sure yet if that describes Amentans.

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- Reds are smart enough to mark ballots they're just not people.

- What if a red did not take the payments and went around befouling the entire universe, it doesn't bear thinking about, if they won't prevent that then they definitely won't be allowed to grant "everyone" in Yvalta freedom of movement and all the actual people will suffer for it.

- How will all this interact with service contracts to Houses?

- How expensive is the language thing?

- What's Mîr? Why don't they share their extremely powerful technology?

- What constitutes a good culture fit for Elves?

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Anyone smart enough to mark a ballot gets a vote. 

They will consult Yvaltan reds about their willingness to sign such a contract and if there's not universal support talk with them about proposed alternative solutions that do not distress everyone.

The aliens are unfamiliar with service contracts to Houses except insofar as they were explained online, which was not fully informative. Among the criteria for Vanda Nossëo membership is good labor rights, it's possible that some contracts will need to be renegotiated to be in compliance should Yvalta seek membership, in particular if they were signed while a party was underage, if there was coercion, if they are not readable to all parties, if they involve punishing terms for breaking the contract, or if their dispute resolution mechanisms don't meet galactic standards.

The language thing is often traded for political reforms short of membership in countries not willing to seek membership. If an agreement like that isn't reached it's expensive but you could get it in exchange for ten percent of a year's future earnings in the place you immigrate to.

Mîr is an empire closely allied with Vanda Nossëo and there are constraints on the reach of their powerful technology but they add new protectorates every month.

Elven societies are extraordinarily high-trust and the people best suited for them have good impulse control, are law-abiding and good neighbors, and make decisions with a lot of consideration for long-term consequences. Elves have a monarchy they're very fond of, which rules mostly through the free cooperation of its citizens. People who think that would suit them can apply by writing their open channel.

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- Reds aren't "anyone" though.

- What counts as coercion? What counts as punishing terms? What are their standards for dispute resolution?

- What would happen if a House seceded from Yvalta, either to pursue membership on its own or to avoid it?

- Political reforms like what? Do they just drop it on everyone in cooperating countries?

- Elves are one of the ones with no population control, right?

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Everything that walks and talks will get a ballot and if the ballot is filled out it will be counted. 

Those sound like details to discuss in talks with Yvalta's government. There are lots of intergalactic corporations with detailed arbitration systems, some of which might be to the liking of Yvalta's workers and Houses.

A new Vanda Nossëo member state would be protected by Vanda Nossëo against retaliation for having seceded from the rest of the country, with as much force as necessary. ...Vanda Nossëo does not lose wars. Recently an enemy put out some stars with inhabited planets in a war and Vanda Nossëo destroyed the enemy, put those planets in orbit around a suitable new star, and resurrected everyone killed in the panic this caused. In the space of twenty minutes. Lots of people join for the defense agreement. Secession to avoid membership could be negotiated in upcoming talks.

Political reforms like improvements to House contracts, maybe, or to the criminal justice system, or to the child credits system. They'd then be able to give it to everyone, yes.

Elves have no population controls.

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- But not reds. They have to have some way to make exceptions.

- How big does a would-be member state have to be?

- Did the people miss their old stars?

- Negotiated in upcoming talks against what background assumptions though.

- What are they thinking they'd approve about the contracts?

- Yvalta does permissions, not credits.

- What's wrong with their criminal justice system?

- The following several thousand people wonder if perhaps they would be good enough neighbors for Elves.

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There is deliberately not a way to make exceptions because if there were, a planet this Elf recently visited would have wanted an exception so women couldn't vote and this one an exception so slaves couldn't vote and this one an exception so homosexuals couldn't vote and this one an exception so members of this hated religion couldn't vote and all of them would have been wrong so you can't have exceptions.

If there were less than a million people for a would-be member state they might encourage them to try becoming a protectorate of an existing one instead. 

Some of them did! Some of them were pleased to have thereby jumped the line on alien prioritization. Some of them are suing Vanda Nossëo for not having executed that enemy much sooner when they suspected he might be a problem. 

Background assumption is that a non-coerced contract is one made where both sides have a tolerable alternative available to them, are fully informed, and are of age and educated in how to read a contract. In addition it's usually not legal to make contracts that are enforceable by demanding specific performance for more than a year or two and it's typically not legal to make contracts with nonmonetary penalties. 

The aliens are concerned their criminal justice system might be biased. Maybe against the reds, who they keep getting told are not people. 

Uh, people who want to live with Elves should specify why specifically Elves and not one of the other societies that take immigrants, and Elf immigration authorities will read their petitions and get back to them shortly.

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- But those exceptions are stupid, maybe except the religion one if it was a really dumb religion, and the red exception is not stupid.

- What is the meaning of "tolerable" here? House contracts mostly last much longer than that.

- Reds don't interact with the justice system.

- They've heard of them and have a way to apply now and not "shortly". Also pretty. And their society sounds soothing.

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None of those people thought their exceptions were stupid. No one ever does. There are no exceptions. 

Uh, there should be another way to not starve and have kids. That is a concerning but not disqualifying fact about House contracts. 

...what happens if someone commits a crime against a red, or if a red commits a crime?

Elf immigration officials are reading their applications. Submitting a way for them to contact you with followup questions is a good idea.

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- Does being able to pick a different House count?

- There aren't any crimes against reds and if reds commit crimes the cops take care of them without bothering a judge.

- Does email count?

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...depends whether they collude or anything.

...so it's legal to torture and murder reds?

Email counts.

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- People are unsure how much they do that.

- ...it's not illegal. You could get got for disruption of services or pollution violations if you were careless though.

- Here are some emails.

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"...that's horrifying," says an Elf at the reds answer. 

        "What do you even have a society for if it's not illegal to murder innocent people?"

"I think maybe Amentans aren't suited to live with Elves if they don't think torture and murder should be illegal."

        "They probably don't all think that. We've said how we do the voting so probably the ones who want to live with us are ones who are all right with the fact Elves think that's horrifying."

"...maybe."

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- Also there aren't even any reds on Elf planets, right?

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No, but if they want to immigrate they will be allowed to and torturing and murdering them will not be allowed.

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- the no torturing and murdering them is one thing but Elves can't just make the entire universe uninhabitable, that would be an atrocity.

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Elves are very eager to find an arrangement that keeps everybody comfortable, but this will probably require some concessions on the part of non-red Amentans, like letting them vote and paying them adequate hazard pay for their contaminating work and treating them as people. They are after all asking red Amentans to make the extraordinary concession of not travelling freely or emigrating, ever, despite the existence of abundant societies that would treat them better. 

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- Is that a threat.

- Are they trying to extort Amenta into doing stuff they want or else the universe gets made uninhabitable forever.

- That's evil, the aliens are evil, aaaaaaaah.

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By Elven standards it is not a threat to say you won't prevent someone else from exercising their legal rights even if it will make other people sad if they do.

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- But the reds don't have those legal rights because like hell is anybody going to vote to be a member state if they have to let them run amok.

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Maybe all the reds can leave and go live some place that doesn't hate them, and then member state votes can happen with that out of the equation?

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- Will the somewhere else let them CONTAMINATE THE WHOLE UNIVERSE.

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They are sure something can be worked out that is better for everyone than having reds here where it is legal to torture and murder them. Maybe everyone except people who like to torture and murder them, those people are going to be shit out of luck because something is deeply wrong with this species.

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They get a bunch of very impassioned essays against contaminating the universe.

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...they can let every planet vote whether it wants to be a planet for reds or for clean Amentans, and then have thorough magic decontamination for interplanet shuttle services? That good enough?

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...Amentans are not sure they are qualified to come up with magic decontamination, they don't seem to understand.

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Okay, Amentan-approved decontamination shuttles?

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Which Amentans. Since they seem to be under the delusion that reds are people.

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Reds seem like they would not be credible authorities on the adequacy of shuttle decontamination. They would pick Amentans who all the Amentans would trust on the subject.

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...fine.

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Oh good. Also if Amentans join Vanda Nossëo they can get their very own colony planets made for them from scratch and those will be the least polluted planets imaginable because they'll have been made fresh. Amentans will not end up trapped on this one world.

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Ooh.

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Yeah! Colony planets are usually a bonus for twenty years of membership but these Elves think maybe with Amenta it will work better to give any new member a colony planet up front. Since it's going to require big changes to get membership and the bribe should be commensurate.

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Oh, are they generally a bribe-based system? (Twenty of whose years, wow.)

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...speaking really loosely? The benefits from signing up are outlandish because they want to incentivize everybody to sign up. You can't, like, bribe a regulatory committee to look the other way or bribe a judge or something, if you could do that then the laws wouldn't be nearly as effective.

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A House writes in that this is private please it would like to guarantee itself entry but would appreciate some security if it looks like the rest of Yvalta is going the other way.

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They email to ask where security can conveniently be accommodated.

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Kind of depends on what form security takes?

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Security will be a person with relevant abilities.

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One person could come to the southwest entrance of this house at a time.

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At that time there is a woman who could pass for Amentan. Purple hair and everything.

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The blue who goes to the door is a little confused about that part.

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"Hi! Should it be a different color, they said purple was the most commonly occurring and I know grey is the one for 'will fight a war' but this is sort of on the down-low, right? I'm Mereth, pleasure to meet you."

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"I was all ready for you to look like an alien but purple is fine. Soyok."

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"I'm human, we look mostly Amentan. This place is pretty."

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"Thank you. Come in."

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In she goes!

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"I have a guest room for you made up over here."

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"Thank you!" 

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He shows her to it. It's nice.

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She sits down happily. "Does anybody need reassurance that y'all are safe - or magic healing, for that matter, I also have magic healing and could do that -"

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"I haven't told anybody we're seceding. We won't have to if the rest of the Houses join up. But if they don't they might be annoyed. I've got about a million and a half people, that cleared the threshold mentioned on TV. I'm not aware of any acute medical issues right now."

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"Good for you. It's a good deal and, like, they'll remember who was on top of making it happen."

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"Who will, Vanda Nossëo?"

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"Yeah."

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"What results does that have?"

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"More cool stuff? Like, a lot of the cool stuff really goes out on a trust basis. The things for which there's consistent overwhelming demand, there are rules about how to distribute it. But, like, who gets to be the site of a trial of giving everyone some cool new magic, who gets to be the first portal hub once portals are stable and scalable, all of that is 'who is competent enough to use this well and cares about their people enough to use it for them?'."

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"Oh."

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"Is that not how things work in most places? My classes on alien governments mostly covered the other member states - and not even all of them, there are too many..."

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"Things sometimes sort of go on a trust basis internally but I think our 'internally' is smaller."

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Nod. "I'm from Luster, which is a Mîr protectorate - Mîr runs really hard on trust because of how their power source works."

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"- so you're not even from Vanda Nossëo?"

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"...Luster is also a Vanda Nossëo member state. Usually you aren't both but - uh, how much of a political overview do you actually want."

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"Some?"

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"There are lots of Elf planets. They all sign up for Vanda Nossëo the minute they hear about it, and this is convenient for everyone because Elves are a very trustworthy reliable species and they don't have to be bribed to do what Vanda Nossëo does because it's by design exactly the thing they most want to be doing - Elves are lower psychological variance, too, when I say it's exactly what they want to be doing I mean way more of them than you could get humans agreed on any particular goal. Luster's an Elf planet. It has humans, too, but the Elves rule us.

It's in range of Mîr, and everyone in range of Mîr is a protectorate with more or less independence because Mîr's powers are just really really thorough that way, and an Elf princess of ours is married to the Empress of Mîr, and that was working okay for everyone, and then Luster made contact with Vanda Nossëo and said 'do you mind' and Mîr said 'that looks right up your alley, go have fun' and we got expedited membership 'cuz Elves."

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"...range?"

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"It's complicated. You are way out of range."

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"...okay."

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"Some worlds are adjacent to one another in a way that doesn't have to do with physical distance, and some kinds of power are adjacency-constrained. This - region for adjacency purposes, some people use 'universe' for a region for adjacency purposes and 'multiverse' for the whole thing - is seven jumps from Luster and eight from Mîr. I'm not a, uh, I don't even know if physicists know more than that, but I definitely don't."

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"That explains the Mîr thing I guess."

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"Uh huh. I got my powers from Mîr but I work for Vanda Nossëo, doing internal security stuff."

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"So what are you going to do exactly if a few neighboring Houses march their security in here?"

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"Turn their weapons into modelling clay and put them back where they came from with little sticky notes saying 'please don't try that again'. One time I did 'please don't try that again, they take it out of my bonus if I have to actually hurt anyone' but I got scolded for being threatening."

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"...uh-huh."

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"I can demonstrate if that'd be reassuring. And anyone doesn't mind their weapons being modelling clay."

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"Why modelling clay?"

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"It happens to be particularly easy with the powers I've got, it communicates 'this totally does not need to get violent but if it does you lose' pretty clearly without being all that threatening..."

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"What other powers do you have?"

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"I've got the standard Mîr suite - healing, minor transmutation, illusions and stuff, I can conjure my weapon, I can change my outfit and appearance around at will - and then I've got the specific thing I wished on, which is that when I'm in a dangerous situation I can suddenly speed up like a thousandfold compared to the rest of the world and I can turn anything I can see into modelling clay and I can move it around. - I was in a car accident. I was trapped and it was horrible. Mîr magic runs on really strong emotions - after I got out I was having nightmares about it and I went through the application for a wish."

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"...huh."

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"If your House neighbors are likely to launch a missile at us and you haven't got missile-tracking of some kind then you need a precog but for anything short of that you're safe enough."

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"A precog. Wow. - I was kind of expecting to have to prove somehow that I didn't set this up as some kind of plot."

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"Do you want to prove that? Vanda Nossëo kind of runs on - well, they underplay their firepower a bit, right, and if people decide to try to betray them or take them hostage or manipulate them or whatever, the information is more than worth the inconvenience. We try to be not worth plotting against a lot harder than we try to catch plots."

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"...they underplay their firepower?"

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"Oh yeah."

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"Damn. All right. I'm not plotting anything, this is just the sort of thing that would've looked like a plot to - the sort of person I'm used to."

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"Scarcity," she says. "And mortality. People are way better to each other when they know that no matter what nothing really bad can actually happen. Like - you can't die now, you understand that? And your kids can't die, and your grandkids, and anyone else you care about - if something happens in the course of getting membership, when we have guaranteed you security, we will put them right back whether you can afford a resurrection or not. Everyone's gonna be safe. And once people get used to that, then they can go 'oh. okay, what else do I care about? And often enough they care about - passing it on, making more people safe. Or making their country prosperous and happy and thriving and a place that people are desperate to immigrate to, or learning things, or inventing them - all this thought and energy and effort that was getting spent on zero-sum games..."

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"Population controls are - really bad for us."

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"Oh?"

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"They're better than constantly slaughtering each other to take each other's land. But they're bad."

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"Because of the zero-sum games thing?"

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"And they just mean - everybody's feeling horrible a lot of the time. Even if you have fifteen kids you can't arrange for them all to have fifteen kids, nobody can sustain that, so then you have sad kids."

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"I think Amentans want kids more than pretty much anyone."

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"We always expected aliens would be the same way. Evolution."

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"Luster humans hadn't even invented birth control yet when Mîr came to say hi. With it people average, like, two. Orcs are like you but they're not evolved, this asshole designed them that way so he'd have more slaves. Some species don't have high investment in their offspring and don't actually care whether they have any - Yeerks literally disintegrate to make their kids and I think are happy enough to not do that -"

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"...wow. Why do they ever, then -"

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"...I think until recently they didn't really get a choice about it, if their superiors said 'I want a million more Yeerks' then, well, you're dead either way, right? But also I guess some are suicidal? Or really want kids of theirs to exist even if they won't get to see them."

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"Huh."

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"That's not the sense in which Amentans want kids?"

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"I mean, once you have one, you'd die to save them, if you had to, but you wouldn't die to have them."

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"Makes sense. Well, luckily for you all most places don't want kids as much as you and if you end up chewing through disproportionately many colony planets that'll be fine. It's too bad you're not near Mîr, by now they'd have wished on some sort of infinite-space solution for you all."

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"...uh-huh."

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She raises an eyebrow quizzically.

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"It just sounds a little - fantastical -"

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"I guess. I was born into it, I can't really imagine what it was like for the people who went from a normal life to a - safe and vast and magic one."

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Nod.

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"Am I keeping you from, like, running your House and stuff?"

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"Oh, most of the day to day is delegated and aliens landing is a good excuse to put off anything else."

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"Okay, cool. I'm not really the best person for explaining stuff but I'm totally happy to."

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"What else even is there?"

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Shrug. "People stuff? More magic? The screening for wishes? I'm kind of curious what kind of plot people would suspect this of being, it doesn't seem spectacularly conducive to any plots but I might not have the cultural upbringing to be properly imaginative."

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"How did you decide to come here? How long have you known about us? - uh, you've told me a lot of stuff you didn't say on TV, I could be gathering information or could conceivably have been planning to take you hostage."

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"Anyone who was sufficient as security against all the other Houses would probably be pretty hard to take hostage. Plus, like, it's Fëanorians running Vanda Nossëo - I guess you wouldn't have known that.

I think we'd added you to a list like ten years ago, you're not high-priority because you wouldn't substantially benefit from any cheap resources and you haven't invented various low-tech ways to destroy yourselves and there'd have been substantial justified resistance to external governance and the reds thing is horrible and hard to fix. You haven't moved up the list much but one of the Elf princes decided to do it anyway, I think because Tapa had a girl he had determined with magic was the girl he wanted to marry. - uh, he can make contact on a whim but that doesn't mean things would get yanked out from under you if he got bored, once it's in motion we always follow through."

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"...uh, all right. What is your angle on reds exactly?"

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"...on my planet until recently homosexuality was considered disgusting, some places would kill people for it and some just made you - pretend... I've done security on a planet where disabled people were considered disgusting and if you were injured in an accident or in a war then the decent thing to do was to kill yourself and if you didn't do that everyone would just quietly loathe you - I've been to one where they murdered people in all kinds of horrifying ways for being heretics, by which they meant believing a slightly different variant of the local religion - look, everybody hates somebody. It's practically universal that if we land on a planet there'll be people who, to the outside eye, look no better and no worse than all the rest, but who the locals will tell us just need to die. 

So when you say that about reds, we're just kind of like 'okay, listening to those other people would have been a terrible mistake, the correct thing to do was to tell them 'uh, no, you don't have to like them but the law will be enforced for them too' and wait two generations for minds and hearts to change'. 

And maybe that's not true here. But so far you haven't said anything that sounds different than what literally everyone says about the people they hate."

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"If you let them go everywhere you'll be - it's - a few planets from scratch is better than what we have now even if everything else is covered in - I'm not sure what you're planning to do about their jobs but you probably have some idea -

- but everybody who looks up at the stars will have to remind themselves that at least the stars themselves are on fire and probably not filthy even if we can't ever go anywhere else because they've been there first or might have been."

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"...it probably won't help to point out that the other species do, like, use sewage for manure and have people who have handled the dead for thousands of years and stuff and that we won't force the entire universe into conformity with this thing of yours even if we agree to quarantine the reds in particular -"

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"If someone goes hiking and dies and isn't found they'll eventually disappear into nature and that's fine. Reds are - ambulatory, self-renewing - people who have handled the dead for thousands of years are also a problem -"

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"So are we supposed to go to literally hundreds of millions of worlds where literally hundreds of billions of people who handle the dead for a living and have for thousands of years are living happy joyous lives married to a - banker or a politician or a personal trainer or a engineer - and say 'look, unless we herd you off into hellish little camps or kill you the Amentans, who you have never met, will feel uneasy when they look at the sky' - those planets would rise up as one against us, they'd react the way Amentans would react if we showed up here and started herding all the gay people off to execute because the Valar think they're gross -"

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"The who?"

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Handwave. "Different species. They really hate gay people. It's just an example, the Andalites would want us to get rid of everyone who walks with a limp and the Asgardians think there's something stomach-turning about everyone male who does combat or sports or governance and the Ferengi think it's appalling if you let women own property - we might as well sterilize the multiverse, if we're going to hurt everyone who someone else wants gone -"

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"The reds we - already have contained. If you whisk them away..."

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"It'd be more salient and more upsetting than the fact other planets don't have this concept at all."

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"Yes. We didn't really expect everyone would be identical - closer than this, but -"

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"There aren't that many reds. They're totally dwarfed by the number of families whose coroner business says 'In the Family Since 1870' in a wood sign out front. Allowing them to immigrate would barely actually change the background - amount the universe has been touched by things you don't like. But it'd make you think about it."

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"It'd mean that introducing Amenta to the universe made the universe worse."

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"If you were in Mîr we could just have an Amentan wish that everything was not polluted and not pollutable, or something."

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"But we aren't."

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"Uh huh. You really don't think people will just, like, get over it, if raised in a society that doesn't treat it like the worst thing in the world? That usually happens. On Earth when they tried letting black and white kids go to the same school all the white kids quit so they wouldn't have to be in a room with the black ones and they could have waxed very eloquent about how much they were suffering but, like, twenty Amentan years later they're horribly embarrassed about the whole thing and no one cares."

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"There are hyposensitives - we consider it a disorder - but there's also hypersensitives and most people are neither."

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"I don't mean thinking that sewage isn't gross, other species think that too. I mean the being miserable that some other planet has been walked on by someone who used to be a garbage worker and isn't even a garbage worker anymore. If you didn't raise kids that way, would they really pick it up?"

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"We couldn't go there. No one's upset that we can't go to red districts but we were always hoping once we could colonize planets our population problem would be over."

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"We could quarantine this universe? The other ones aren't spatially contiguous with this one, it'd mean all of the stars you look at are fine and all of the places colonies could reach are fine, maybe someone can wish up decontaminating shuttles for people who want to go back and forth..."

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"...the stars thing isn't really the point just an example. But maybe that would work."

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"We don't want you to be miserable. But we - take it really seriously, about everyone having rights and being safe, and if anybody could just veto other people getting rights and being safe then the whole thing crumbles. People'll be so grateful if Amentans can propose a solution that doesn't make you miserable and would generalize acceptably to the next place we go that really hates rape victims or something."

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"We don't hate them at random."

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"The place I'm thinking of that hates rape victims doesn't hate them at random either, they can't afford to have doubts about paternity of children and haven't invented paternity testing and handle it with ridiculous-strength taboos on extramarital sex or putting oneself in a position where someone could have extramarital sex with you. It's not random but it's not something that should keep existing in a good world."

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"Reds shouldn't exist in a good world. We've wanted to replace them with robots since the concept was invented."

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"Now you sound like the people from that planet saying 'yeah, we kill rape victims by burying them up to their neck in the ground and having the whole community gather around to throw rocks at them because they shouldn't exist in a good world'. They shouldn't. But the fix isn't to murder the ones who do."

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"I'd suggest not giving them any more permissions but you're probably going to make them immortal."

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"Also it sounds like Amentans experience childlessness as something akin to torture. Does it really not wear off? Will their great-grandchildren really be just as - whatever it is you think they are - if they've never been anywhere near anyone unclean?"

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"They are, their families are, anything they touch is."

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"...would it solve anything if I checked what percentage of the not-red Amentan population has red ancestry because people cheat or abandon their babies in a box on a neighbor's doorstep or whatever? Or would it just freak people out if I'm right and it's kind of a lot of them?"

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"...that would be worse than Savo's disaster and that was terrible and theoretically containable."

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"I will tell my bosses to declare the answer to that question Very Classified."

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Soyok nods.

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"Usually when people realize the definition they're using doesn't actually mesh with their intuitions they retreat to a more pragmatic one. But I guess the retreating can still really suck." Shrug. "I don't suppose it'd be sufficient if you just had personal decontaminating bubbles?"

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"...I'm not sure how that would work but maybe it would?"

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"Probably the way to do that would be to have someone wish for it - wishes give you what you want, if they go through at all, though how they do it varies a bit - and then we could check what exactly the wish was doing and maybe find a less expensive way to do it. - the Empress does all wishes personally, too risky to delegate it."

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"...okay..."

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"...so that's not itself a scalable way to do it but it'd be a good way to figure out what exactly we'd be doing, and then find a scalable way."

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"Is it generally straightforward to find out what magic is doing and then do it another way?"

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"It would be easier to start from, like, a specification of what exactly you'd need the bubbles to do, but it sounds like you don't exactly think about pollution in those terms so, given that, something that we know Amentans will consider adequate is probably the best starting point."

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"Not all things even have procedures to decontaminate them."

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"Without magic, sure. With magic - like the bubble could just replace anything that comes in its range with something identical but made of newly-generated atoms, if it did that would that be sufficient?"

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"...yes."

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"So it'd be something like that. I bet there's a way to do that with a more scalable kind of magic but I'm not an expert."

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Nod.

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"And then Amentans can just go everywhere and be clean and, uh, the being clean is an accommodation we can figure out how best to arrange for you instead of a constraint on other people which will make it wildly more politically palatable."

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"...I mean, it's still horrifying if everywhere else is polluted but it's much more tolerable if it would stop being that way as soon as we got close enough."

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"And you're not gonna convince tons of aliens to suddenly terrorize their perfectly happy coroners. ...do you think coroners on other planets are also secretly not people or is it just ones here?"

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"I suppose if a hyposensitive decided to be a coroner this wouldn't stop them from being a person."

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"We could actually check with magic if reds are people. There's a form of mental magic called subtle arts, gets used for therapy, it does mind-reading and affect-reading and memory-reading and it can notice things like how you experience emotions and how you encode memories and how your mental processes work. If there were anyone who looked and acted normal but there was no light on inside, they'd be able to tell. 

If I asked you to bet something that mattered to you on what they'd find if they looked at reds..."

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"If I were going to bet on it I'd probably arrange to meet one or something but I'd sooner not."

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"Fair enough."

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Sigh. "Is there anything you need? Since you don't look like an alien I can send the servants here."

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"I will not turn down food and a television or local equivalent."

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"Oh, there's a guest computer, I think it's in the nightstand drawer..." It is. "I'll have a servant bring you something to eat, assuming you can eat local stuff."

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"Yeah, you all seem like humans except brighter hair colors and less sexual dimorphism and the babies thing."

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"...what good is sexual dimorphism in a sapient species?"

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"Specialization? I guess? In humans men are taller and stronger and most places they didn't let women study things or be in power until pretty recently. Before was born, but pretty recently in the grand scheme of things."

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"...huh."

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"Some places still don't. Women are legally the property of their father until they sell them to their husband. Places that wanna be a member state have to cut that out."

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Soyok makes a face.

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She grins at him. "It's a hard balance to find between - giving what we've got to everyone who wants it and - insisting that people grow up. It helps that there's just not enough to go around and we do have to prioritize somehow."

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"It's not going to make people - most comfortable - if they - notice that if you had slightly fewer things you'd be insisting on the reds instead of helping us. It's good that you have enough things to do both, if you come up with another way to get their jobs done I don't care what you do with them, but if you didn't..."

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"It would be nice if you were treating them - just the way that was necessary to satisfy your pollution thing. They can't go places, okay. It's legal to torture and murder them - that's not something you need. Where being decent to them actually involves putting this stress on you, okay, that's really hard. But - there's lots of decency to them just lying on the ground for free and no one thinks it's worth the effort to lean over to pick it up."

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"...it's not literally free."

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"You could let them have their own courts and jails for people who torture and murder them, if you didn't want to pay for it."

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"They can do what they like if it's other reds. They just can't bother clean folks about it. I don't think that's a very popular way to blow off steam anyway, you do have to shower for five hours afterwards, it'd be more convenient to just pull the petals off flowers or something."

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"...okay, it would at least be free to consider it horrifying that people torture and murder reds for no reason, even if it'd take some tiny amount of effort to allow the reds to arrest them for it."

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"But then we'd be horrified all the time."

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Sigh. "If we had less resources then I think we'd just take them to another planet, give you robots, and hope that after they'd been gone for a while you were - more palatable allies. If we didn't have resurrection then people might want to, you know, put the torturers and murderers on trial ourselves, so I guess it's a good thing we've got that."

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"It seems - not like the behavior of new friends to try people for things that weren't illegal when they did them."

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"I should probably not get into this. We do have the resources we have, we're not going to hold anyone accountable for atrocities you committed under scarcity, these aren't the kind of conditions that make people their best selves.

But if for some reason we'd had to choose whether to be allies and friends with the reds or the clean Amentans, uh, they're a lot more sympathetic and indescribably less of a diplomatic liability. So. Yeah. If it'd come to that, we wouldn't be friends."

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Soyok sighs. "I will probably be able to warn you if anyone marches on the property before shots are fired."

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"Great." She pokes the television.

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Computer. But it has TV available, domestic and foreign. Soyok leaves her alone.

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She hangs out in the guest room watching television on the computer. 

 

 

Vanda Nossëo sends Calado a complaint about the kidnapping of their emissaries.

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They are sorry! They are not sorry at all. They didn't harm them. They volunteer to have the perpetrators shot.

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They are actually requesting extradition for trial in Vanda Nossëo. They understand that kidnapping is not very illegal in Calado but they take misconduct towards their emissaries very seriously.

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Are they sure they wouldn't rather have them shot? They can have the greys but not the senator. The senator but not the greys. They can't have them at all!

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They are very sure that they're requesting extradition of all involved parties and no shooting at all. Calado need not comply but it'll be a barrier to further diplomatic relations.

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"What an interesting country."

       "I feel bad for the people."

"Yeah, but what can you do?"

       "Probably a lot of things if we're willing to expend stupid amounts of resources on it."

"...I'm listening."

        

 

Someone asks Elendil about the going price for one-off rings of teleport.

 

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They're pricey, wizards being a bit scarce, why?

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Uh, there's a country of people who would probably mostly choose to leave, but their government can't be negotiated with because it's, uh, really really bad at its job, and it would be great to give them the option of leaving. What share of people can get good enough to make them, and how long does it take?

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Why do they want to do this with rings and not teleporters?

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"It's possible that all of the people who'd be ordered to do those things would, ah, also rather leave?"

"Oh, I'm sure they would, but if they're not coordinated or if there are just a couple positioning for a spot among those who stay -"

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Well, the rings will be pretty steep, they're not very introductory material. Unless they want them in a few years.

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They will keep it in mind if Calado is still disaster-ing along in a few years. Does anyone from a functioning state have advice on whether it's possible to productively operate in Calado.

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Oh, sure, you just have to learn your way around, it's kind of a political maze.

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The problem is that they cannot learn their way around if they will be kidnapped even flying near the country and there will be zero cooperation with investigating such kidnappings. You kind of need a minimum level of assurance that it's illegal to kidnap you before you can start learning your way around a country.

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Well, yes, aliens are a special case.

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So there's just no real way to productively interact with Calado.

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Not for aliens and directly, probably.

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Vanda Nossëo arrests the people who kidnapped their citizens. They do this with invisible teleporters; it is probably very confusing to the targets.

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Well, they were warned. What are they going to do about the baby Datna is holding?

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They will wait until she is not holding a baby.

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She is spending a lot of time with the baby but eventually lets her grandson have it.

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Shortly after that she vanishes.

 

She finds herself inside a very pretty unreasonably spacious prison cell somewhere with just a smidge less gravity than Amenta.

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"Hello?"

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No one answers. There's a door.

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...she goes to the door and tries it.

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Unlocked! There's a big atrium with some people playing table tennis and some watching television. 

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"Excuse me."

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"Hello!" says a brown-haired woman who is playing a board game of some kind. "This is Dasaer Correctional Facility. I'm Janet, I'm on staff here, how can I help you?"

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"...where is the Dasaer Correctional Facility and what are its plans for me?"

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"We're a moon off Odour, star system 3255J, Quadrant 116, your galaxy, and you have a preliminary hearing -" she pokes a computer - "tomorrow morning, 9:00 local time, on three counts of kidnapping."

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"...and what happens in preliminary hearings?"

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"The judge explains the charges to you and appoints you counsel. Then they talk you through things so you can confirm that you've been apprised of your rights, that you find the prison conditions acceptable, and that you're of sound mind and capable of understanding the proceedings."

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"...that I find the conditions acceptable?"

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"If, say, your species can't survive without at least a hundred miles of readily accessible wilderness, or if for religious reasons you need all your food prepared by a certified spiritual practitioner, or if you require a single-sex facility..."

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"..."

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"Obviously if there's anything urgent you can let me know right now, but the hearing will cover it."

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She sighs.

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 "There's a queue to set what's on the big TV but there's a smaller one in your room!" Janet says, returning to the board game she is playing.

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She goes back to her room.

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There's a big monitor and an unfamiliar keyboard, or it does voice commands, and she can browse Dasaer internet and television.

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She pokes around a little.

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Locals look like Amentans with rubber foreheads; planet suffered an ecological disaster a hundred years back and since then they've mostly lived underground and on their moons, which doesn't bother them as much as it bothers Amentans (but they still asked for a massive planet cleanup for their Vanda Nossëo membership perk.) Now the planet's lovely and habitable and they're moving back above ground. There are like six billion of them. Dasaer Correctional Facility holds some people who blew up some buildings trying to prevent the membership vote and a couple people who used ambassadorial jobs as cover for smuggling some prohibited substance. The member planet gets 18,000 resurrections, which they distribute to the citizens who died the youngest, and 7,000 immortality necklaces a year, which they auction. 

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What's the TV like.

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Rubber-forehead alien police procedural! Rubber-forehead alien sports! (Lots of those!) Rubber-forehead alien docudrama! Rubber-forehead alien local news! Rubber-forehead alien presidential debate!

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...she can't understand the language. She watches rubber-forehead-alien sports.

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Eventually someone stops by with a meal! It is an exact replica of a meal served in an upscale Calado restaurant.

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...that's sort of weird but okay. She eats it, if they wanted her harmed they could probably do that without poisoning her food.

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The food is unpoisoned. In the morning Janet knocks on her door.

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Datna groans and gets up. "What?"

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"Someone is here to escort you to your hearing!"

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Datna opens the door.

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Person is yet another species and in a trim unfamiliar uniform. "Ready to go?"

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"If I said I had an urgent hair appointment would you believe me?"

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"...I wouldn't disbelieve you - we get all kinds here - but I would not take you to the hair appointment."

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"I am ready to go unless I'm meant to be offered breakfast first."

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"There's a coffee place at the courthouse." Pop. Now they are in a different building with elaborate alien architecture and lots of people. Person points at the coffee shop. It has a short line. "It's free, one of those weird Elf places."

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"I can't read the menu."

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"Oh, I can get you a wand - wait in line? I'll be back in a sec -"

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"...do you often leave arrestees unsupervised? I can't teleport, but..."

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"And I can teleport to you if you're within a couple trillion lightyears of here. We don't really have a problem with prisoners attempting escape but if you're uncomfortable I of course won't leave."

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"Are any of the other people in line violent criminals?"

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"No, there's a different procedure for those."

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She sighs. "You may go."

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He is back five seconds later with a strange-looking wand. He taps her. Now the sign is perfectly readable. 

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She orders a coffee and a chocolate bread.

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They're free. The teleporter walks her to a courtroom.

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She doesn't make any trouble.

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The judge explains her rights. It's a long list. She has the right to counsel, which will be appointed for her in this hearing; she has the right to refuse to participate in the judicial process, which may adversely affect the outcome of her kidnapping case but will not earn new charges; she has the right to prison conditions in line with intergalactic treaty and with expectations in her native society to the extent those are compatible with public safety; she has the right to refuse to testify under a truth effect, though this will of course affect the credibility of her testimony; she has the right to know the evidence against her and submit questions for her accusers; she has the right to an appeal; she has the right to a clear and straightforward explanation of the law and of the legal process,which the judge duly provides. 

(Kidnapping is the crime of unlawful transportation and confinement of a person against their will;  'unlawful' is met if the kidnapper did not reasonably believe themselves to be acting in their capacity as an officer of the law to carry out an arrest for which they had a lawfully obtained warrant; the penalty for each charge, of which there are three, is between one and six local years' imprisonment. Local years are a quarter of Amentan years.)

The judge wants to know if she understands her rights and whether prison conditions are acceptable and whether she understands the crime she is charged with.

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"I am entitled to issue warrants," she says.

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"Had you issued a warrant for the arrest of the persons you are accused of kidnapping?"

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"My say-so constitutes one."

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"What were they charged with?"

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"Possession of alien technology."

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"Were they informed that they were under arrest?"

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"I think they noticed."

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"Defendant's counsel, I recommend you talk to your client before we add anything to the record."

       "Yes, your honor."

"Do you understand the charges against you?"

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"No. Under what jurisdiction am I charged?"

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"Vanda Nossëo."

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"According to what law am I extradited?"

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"Vanda Nossëo prosecutes certain crimes against its citizens committed anywhere in the universe, barring locations that have negotiated a different arrangement, under Statute 43 of the Third Treaty on galactic operations."

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"The prison is fine as prisons go."

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"Do you have questions for this court."

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"Will my family be notified of or compensated in any way for my disappearance?"

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"You are permitted to write home. Is it conventional in Calado to compensate the families of persons arrested for crimes for the inconveniences associated with their disappearance?"

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"If you arrest someone important."

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The judge looks unimpressed. "You could request that a charitable organization compensate your family for the inconvenience associated with your arrest."

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"How would I do that?"

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"You have internet access in prison. I am sure the prison staff would be happy to assist you."

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Her court-appointed attorney explains what attorneys do (they help you make your case to the court! their job is to make sure you do as well as you would do with perfect knowledge of the law and ability to advocate for yourself using it! what time would be convenient for her to set up a meeting?)

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"I have no plans."

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"I can accompany you back to prison now if convenient."

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"Fine."

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Her attorney accompanies her back to prison, explains attorney-client privilege, explains how she can file for new representation if she's dissatisfied with present representation. Presents her with all of the evidence in the case - testimony from the Elves under a truth effect, detailed and accurate to the word, with specific claims highlighted and noted as forensically verified.

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"Does it in fact matter that I am empowered at home to issue warrants?"

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"It would matter a lot if you had in this case issued a warrant. Or told them they were under arrest, or told their rescue when he showed up and asked if there was a misunderstanding that they had been arrested - or if the soldiers will be able to testify that you told them to arrest the occupants of the ship, specifically - or if you care to testify under a truth effect that you believed yourself to be issuing and executing a lawful arrest order and that they were going to get to see a judge soon."

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"I don't have to fill out forms or whatever you expect warrants to look like. It wasn't a criminal arrest, is that the only kind of apprehension you allow?"

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"Can you describe the other kinds of arrest and what the process for those looks like?"

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"There are dispersal arrests, collecting people to get them quickly out of an area without the longer process of asking that would make them actually guilty of trespassing. There's security arrests, where someone is apprehended for their own safety or the security of others without a crime necessarily suspected."

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"That sounds very broad."

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"It's intended to be flexible."

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"We can make a case, but ...well, firstly, you said in court today that it was a criminal arrest for possession of alien technology, though I can try to get that thrown out because you hadn't yet spoken with your counsel, and secondly the court is going to be asking itself 'if this case is straightforwardly treated as precedent, what implications does that have for any citizens or subjects of ours with the misfortune to find themselves in Calado' and they will consider 'there are lots of people in Calado empowered to deprive them of their liberties without due process or any process, indefinitely, without even communicating to them that they are under arrest' an undesirable outcome."

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"I didn't say it was criminal."

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"'What were they charged with?' 'Possession of alien technology.'"

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"In context it seemed like the question was about why I arrested them at all."

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"Are you going to be willing to testify under a truth effect?"

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"To what?"

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"They get to ask you questions. I presume they would ask what kind of arrest you conceived yourself to be making at the time, why you didn't inform them they were under arrest, how this would have played out up to and after their deaths if they had not been extracted..."

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"Their deaths?"

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"Elves experience confinement as torturous and die of stress inside a day or so. That's why the law is that we prosecute anywhere in the universe for rape, murder, torture, and kidnapping - because to a substantial body of our citizens, those are all the same degree of crime."

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"I see."

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"So you can anticipate they will ask you how this arrest would have played out without a rescue."

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"What does the truth effect do?"

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"It makes it apparent to listeners when a false claim is made. It doesn't do anything about misleading or irrelevant claims, but questioners are very experienced at operating within it and at framing questions appropriately."

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"It would have been startling and embarrassing and I probably would have assumed the greys had injured them somehow."

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"They used to try to explain it to people, but turns out no one believes them. What was the plan if they didn't die and didn't get rescued?"

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"I was working on convincing them to talk to me."

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"What kind of arrest are you claiming this was, again?"

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"This is the first time you've asked that. Security."

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"Presuming they didn't talk to you -?"

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"I hadn't decided what to do if they couldn't be persuaded."

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"They will certainly ask what the possibilities were."

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"I might have offered them to another senator."

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"An exhaustive list, please."

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"I don't have one."

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"If we ask Calado to comment on whether the arrest was lawful and in accordance with local procedure, will we get an answer supportive of our case -"

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"Depends on who you ask."

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"Who should I ask?"

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She names some other blues.

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"I'll write them."

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"What are you going to say?"

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"That I'm representing you in a legal case which may turn on the question of whether the events describes occurred in the context of a lawful arrest, and that I'm soliciting comment from them as a local expert on the Calador legal system."

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"That will probably do."

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"I am sure the prosecution will do the same thing but maybe they won't know who to ask."

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"They'll probably ask everyone at once and get forty answers."

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"...your country sounds interesting. More context might help me figure out how best to explain it to the judge."

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"Senators and to a lesser extent other political blues have flexible and extensive powers with which to pursue projects intended to help the flourishing of Calado. We can interpret the law pretty broadly and unless other blues decide it is worth a considerable amount of their time to retaliate this is within expected parameters. If what you ask for is an interpretation of the law and no one expects retaliation for giving you an answer, someone will try that answer; if the result is good they get the credit and if it isn't it gets lost in the noise."

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"Okay. Aside from - more filtered statements from your colleagues, is there evidence we should bring to the attention of the court - it'd be really really helpful to have any documentation consistent with this being construed as an arrest at the time -"

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"I'm not sure you'd find the language in the text conversation specific enough, but in context if I tell some greys to bring me some aliens I probably mean to arrest them."

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"We can have them testify, if they'd testify to that."

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"I'm not sure they're very happy with me right now."

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"They'll have their own attorneys advising them on what testimony best serves their interests in the case, but it could be that they're better off stating that they thought they were executing a lawful arrest order. If you'd told them to kill the Elves would that also be legal -"

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"Only if the Elves were behaving violently or trying to escape. ...escape less magically. But I wouldn't have been much questioned if I'd said that happened."

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"See, if some of our people got kidnapped in a country that was formally anarchic, 'there are no local laws against what I did' wouldn't be a defense. So it's going to be helpful to be able to describe to the court something that would still not be permitted even if we decided to permit - the usual operations of the Calador government, so that acknowledging the proceedings of the Calador government doesn't amount to 'anything's legal'."

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"It would not have been legal to kill them unless certain conditions obtained; it simply would have been fairly easy to fraudulently claim those conditions."

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"Were they informed that they'd be killed if they tried to escape?"

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"No. I was trying to keep the entire matter relatively friendly."

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"And it wasn't apparent to you they were in any more distress than anyone would be at having their ship towed down -"

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"They seemed nonchalant. Mildly annoyed."

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"Elves," he mutters with some irritation.

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"Mm?"

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Sigh. "They make very good witnesses. Perfect memories, all agree to the truth effect, all followed whatever their procedures guide said to the T."

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"...okay..."

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"You're going to have very photogenic very sad people testifying to the court that they were traumatized and had no idea what to expect next because no one gave the faintest indication this was an arrest or that there were any legal constraints on their future treatment."

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"They could have asked."

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"Would they have been informed at that point that they'd be killed if they tried to leave?"

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"I would have told them they were not free to go. I wouldn't have ordered them killed, to be clear, I didn't want them dead, it just would have been legal if they'd resisted arrest."

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"How long can you legally hold people when you make a security arrest?"

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"Depends on the security need."

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"Okay. I can also put together a motion for the court to kick this back to Calado for evaluation there, if you expect that to go in your favor - it's not very likely to be approved but it doesn't hurt to try - or technically I could move to have Ambaróna try it but I don't think that looks any better odds-wise."

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"I think I could navigate the matter at home. What is Ambaróna?"

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"The nation of origin of the victims. It wouldn't be that hard to get the case moved there, but it's an Elf country, they're going to be even more inclined to sympathize with Elves who got imprisoned and one of their royals got involved which I am not confident would not influence the court."

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Sigh.

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"I will file a motion to move it to Calado but I don't expect it to get approved. Are there other questions I can answer for you -"

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"Will it be more or less like this for the duration if I'm sentenced?"

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"Yes. You could request a transfer to a different prison but they vary mostly in aesthetics - they'll all have three meals a day, counselors and work programs available, internet, six visiting hours a day. You're typically expected to meet with a social worker once a week."

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"- how would anyone visit me? What would the social worker do?"

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"Prison social workers tend to ask about plans for release, try to help people spend their time productively if they want to do that, get them mental health services if necessary, help complete court-ordered steps like restitution or classes on ethical conduct. Anyone who wanted to visit you would have to somehow reach the nearest dimensional transit facility. There are no facilities set up in Calado because it has been judged too hazardous to operate in Calado but there are some in progress in some neighboring countries."

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"Which ones?"

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"I'd have to look it up for you." He does. "Ah, yes, Tapa? Does that sound familiar?"

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"...I know the names of all the countries on Amenta, yes."

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"It could have been transliterated poorly enough to be unintelligible or ambiguous. Tapa is going to have a dimensional transit facility with hourly service to Elendil. Elendil has shuttles here... also hourly."

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Nod.

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"There'd be a transfer if you engaged in activity that justified an elevated security prison - getting into fights with other inmates, having guests smuggle in weapons or poison or something, breaking laws online while in prison, threatening witnesses or trying to bribe judges or something - and pregnant people get transferred to a prison that can accommodate them, as do people with unusual health conditions the clinic here can't handle."

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"Hmm?"

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"How long do the shuttles take, or are they as instant as was my arrest?"

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"They're teleported, yes."

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Nod.

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"I'm going to send you an email with instructions about logging in to a confidential case file where I can keep you updated on what evidence has been entered and what motions have been filed. You'll have to create a password and have the options to add additional levels of security. Anyone asking you for permission to look at your case file, or trying to look over your shoulder at it, or insinuating that it'd be to your advantage to show it to them, will spend the next decade in jail, report them immediately, confidentiality is taken very seriously."

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"All right."

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"Take care, and let me know if you need anything or think of anything."

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"I assume my Amentan email accounts are not present on this computer, how will I receive your email?"

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"There's one set up under your name." He shows her.

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Nod.

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He leaves.

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She opens up her email account and figures out the interface and goes to see if alien drama is more interesting now she can understand the language.

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In an alien legal drama aliens fight to make their government pay reparations to the recently-resurrected people it massacred a hundred years earlier. Alien police procedural is still on; the alien cops agonize over whether to burn through one of their scarce forensics requests to nail down a murderer who seems to be murdering dying people knowing their insurance will pay their resurrections if they die by murder.

 

The greys similarly find themselves arrested and given a hearing.

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Do they get to stick together or are they split up?

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Separate rooms in the same prison. It's not the one the senator's in.

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They go find each other in fairly short order.

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Their prison has a basketball court in a courtyard. The planet has rings; they're visible in the sky. The prison staffperson is pink-skinned and brown-haired but could otherwise pass for Amentan.

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At least it's not brown-skinned and pink-haired.

...they send one of their number to talk to the staffperson.

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"Hi! I'm Buthux, this is the Mlenot Correctional Facility. Can I help you out?"

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"...I don't know, can you? Is this where we, uh, go to our course on illegal orders the - other alien mentioned -"

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" - uh, so, technically you get a trial. Though if you want to skip that, you or your attorney can tell the judge 'look, I'm from this place where if someone says 'kidnap those aliens!' you haven't got a whole lot of choice about it, can I do a course on illegal orders and move someplace where I won't be given illegal orders and call it even and keep this off my record?' and I can't imagine the judge would turn that down. Is that something you want?"

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"...we have families, we don't want to just disappear on them."

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"Okay. So this afternoon in about an hour you get a hearing, and at that hearing you get a lawyer, and that lawyer's job is to figure out how to get you what you want out of this whole situation - so, make deals with the judge for you, make sure your family can access visitation and sue for easier access to visitation if they're having a hard time getting here, make sure you know what to tell the court. And your lawyer will be able to figure this out with you, okay?"

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"Do we all get our own lawyers?"

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"Yes. So does, uh, the blue lady - sorry, I read the file but I can't pronounce the names - anyway, each of you get a lawyer. Sometimes it happens that, like, what's in your interest is to cut a deal where you testify against someone else in exchange for going home, and the lawyer would not be able to do his job right for both of you."

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"Oh."

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Buthux raises a questioning bushy eyebrow.

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"Where would we move to if we did want to move somewhere?"

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"There are a lot of planets, what's important to you? Weather? Urban? Rural? Locals who look like you? Jobs?"

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"...I don't know what the range is."

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"Well, as far as weather goes, there are places that are all underwater and the locals are octopi. You could get morph and shapeshift into an octopus and go live there but you probably wouldn't want to. There's, like, Jotunheim, which is never much above the freezing point of carbon dioxide - did that translate, that one's fifty-fifty whether it translates -"

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"...uh, it translated but I don't know what the freezing point of carbon dioxide is."

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"Really cold. Uh, there are also nice planets where water is a liquid and it snows in the winter and is sunny in the summer, if that's more your kind of thing."

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"That sounds good. If they have seasons the right length."

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"What's the right length?"

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"...about as long as an Amentan season. I don't know exactly at what point it stops working."

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"...well, you've got internet, you can look up the places that are taking immigrants and sort by length of a year and see if any of the ones that are about right look good."

 

An inmate who is visibly pregnant comes out of her room, waves at the newcomers, and goes over to change the channel on the television.

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Greys blink at her. "What's going to happen to her baby?"

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Buthux looks confused. "Hmmm? Oh, this prison has a maternity ward and a kid's play area."

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"...so she's just going to have the baby in prison?"

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"...yes."

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"...and she's allowed to do that."

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"...yes? It's illegal here to force someone to have an abortion, and there's research suggesting that infants do fine born in custody if their parents are around, medical care is adequate, and the environment is safe and calm."

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The grey goes back to talk to the other greys.

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They are left alone.

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They make up rules for basketball and play.

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After a while someone comes over and explains the actual rules of basketball and wants to join.

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That sounds worse than their game but they'll try and sure.

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And a while after that people show up to escort them to trial.

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They go cooperatively enough.

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Do they understand this long list of rights?

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They will need them explained.

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Lawyers work like this. They'll be able to view evidence from prison like this. They have the right to the following prison conditions plus anything that'd be conventional back home unless it's a threat to public safety. Are the prison conditions okay.

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The basketball court might get boring after a while?

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They can request a transfer if they want. 

 

 

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Or just more balls, they could do other stuff with the space.

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Sure, the judge will see to it that a request gets put in for that.

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"You're being real nice about this."

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"By all accounts it was a fairly civil kidnapping. The rights are universal, though. Do you have any questions for this court?"

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"His grace who rescued the other Elves said we were probably going to take an illegal orders class?"

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"Did you get something like that in your training at home? How to respond if you're unlawfully ordered to shoot an innocent person, things like that?"

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"...sort of?"

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"Vanda Nossëo might have different standards than Calado but I'd be interested in hearing how it works in Calado."

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"Uh, 'this would more likely be your superior making a joke', 'if you get told to do that then if you go to another blue about it instead of doing it they'll protect you'..."

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Nod. "Are you planning to go back to Calado after this is settled?"

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"I'm married. I don't know. Maybe we could all leave."

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"This court would be really happy to see this settled without seeing anyone who just got caught up in the middle of it in jail, but we have an issue with letting people off for a crime and putting them right back in a situation where they might end up doing it again."

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"I mean. I think I'm out of a job now."

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"Why don't you and your lawyer talk about what kind of agreement you want to ask this court for, and I'll see you in a couple days once you've got that worked out. I've known your lawyer a while. She works for you, not for me, and she's good at it. You'll figure something out."

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Nod.

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Lawyer shows him how he can read the evidence. "This is pretty straightforward - you thought you were carrying out a lawful order, your boss should have thought things through a little more - or a lot more - but everything was resolved quickly and peacefully. I want to be careful about saying 'no harm done' because the Elf press will have a field day with that - but privately, you know, no harm done. If you want to go to trial I think we can beat the charges. Or we can ask for a deal that you're happy about and settle it faster with no risk of losing at trial."

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"What would happen if I lost at trial?"

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"You could conceivably get prison time, you'd have a record - there are a few places that won't take immigrants with a criminal record but not many -"

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"...this doesn't count as prison time?"

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" - oh, we distinguish holding people for trial from sentencing people at trial to serve some length of time in prison. You'd actually be allowed to go home pending trial if you lived somewhere with a justice system we had an agreement with, but, uh, current directive is not to send anybody to Calado."

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"It's really complicated in Calado."

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"I don't think they're unwilling to navigate complicated but it has to be the kind of complicated where it's safe to be around while you're learning. Anyway, usually you'd just get picked up for the hearing and then sent home and picked up for the trial, but there's a concern Calado might try to interfere with the arrest officer. I'm sorry."

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"Do my family know where I am? I warned them that something came up at work but I didn't know what else to say."

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"Can you email them? We can get something set up so emails reach them. If they can make it to - uh, Tapa - there's shuttles here, too."

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"They have email, I just didn't realize it'd go."

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"It should be up and if it's not I'll file an emergency petition with the judge, you can't have peoples' families wondering if they're still alive or being treated all right."

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"You want to check that now or come up with a plan first?"

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"I want to know what to tell them."

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"Okay. So one option is to go to the court and say 'look, your issue is with the person who gave this stupid dangerous order, how about we settle this with my client agreeing to an illegal orders class' or, if you like, 'agreeing not to work for a Calador blue with these, uh, expansive privileges', or something in that vein - I'm not really sure what would impose a significant cost on you and what would be pretty acceptable -"

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"...employment options get pretty limited if you don't want to answer to blues. I don't have enough rhythm to dance."

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Nod. "So we don't propose that, we propose something you're all right with. Or, if you'd rather, we instead go to trial and you can testify - under the truth effect if you're comfortable with that - that this is how a legitimate action for public safety reasons would have been carried out and we collect evidence to that effect and you hopefully get acquitted."

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"I'm getting the sense that 'this is how things are in Calado' is not actually a defense?"

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"...not really. It's a character defense - it means you're probably not going to go around towing ships out of the sky and holding their crews prisoner under other circumstances - but the point of section 43 is that everyone know that if they run across one of our people, and they hurt them, there'll be a prosecution. If some tourist accidentally wanders across a border and gets tortured to death the court doesn't want to let the perp off because that country doesn't have a law against torturing aliens, and that's the principle the law is written around. It would matter if they'd been acting threatening, of course, but by the transcripts they were just requesting permission to leave."

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"They seemed sort of implicitly threatening."

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"Oh?"

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"...powerful aliens show up and want to do stuff but won't be specific even after there's only one faction talking to 'em?"

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"In Calado would it be, like, helpful to kidnap someone, so that then they're spared deciding which, uh, faction to speak to?"

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"We didn't hurt 'em. One time my grandpa yanked a new ambassador from someplace into a senator's office when they were confused and the ambassador thanked him later."

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"Was he subsequently prevented from leaving?"

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"I wasn't there."

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"To the Elves it looks like - they've got no evidence this person is even a Senator, they've got no assurances on how any explanation they give will be disseminated or that it'll be represented reasonably accurately, as long as they're being held their captor is actually in a position to claim any number of things about what they've told her... 'I'll consult my superiors about that and get back to you' is a reasonable answer and 'no you won't' is very scary."

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"I don't really care what they do to her, or anything."

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"Could offer to testify that the problems all arose from her non-communication about the nature of the situation and her persistence in not releasing them once it became apparent they were not willing to offer comment, in exchange for charges against her subordinates being dropped?"

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"- huh?"

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"We could offer to have you testify in her trial, in exchange for the court dropping their complaint with you."

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"If that would help, okay."

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"It's an option. If I knew what you consider the best possible outcome here, and what you consider a bad outcome, I could strategize better."

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"It's kind of hard to take everything in, I'm - scattered."

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Nod. "We can talk again tomorrow if that's easier."

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"I'm not sure that'll help. Before his grace showed up to rescue the other Elves I just wanted my paycheck and my permissions and to go home, right, but..."

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"But now there are lots of places you could emigrate to if you'd rather, and this big confusing system that doesn't run at all like Calado..."

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"Yeah. And like, most people don't try to get out of Calado but that's because it's all by swap, it's really hard to find anyone who'll move there. Rich retirees, sometimes, if they like hot weather."

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"You could take the illegal orders class some other place, get a free translation effect from the court so you can manage in the class, see if you like that place?"

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"Maybe."

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"Can your family get to Tapa? It seems like it might help to talk it over with them."

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"They could visit. They can't immigrate."

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"They could catch the shuttle from there to here. It's two transfers - if you'd like I could have someone meet them at the shuttleport in Tapa to make sure they get here with minimal confusion..."

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"That might help."

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"Okay. Are there more questions I can answer -"

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"Who would be meeting them, when, I need to be able to put that in the email."

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"A social worker associated with the prison here, I can send a picture, and it might work better for them to set a time."

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"Okay."

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"I'm sorry. I know this is unreasonable and confusing."

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"Not your fault."

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Lawyer sets her up with a social worker who can make visitation more straightforward.

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And she emails her family and they say when they can make it to a Tapai station.

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There is an alien there who matches the picture. She waves.

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Husband and kid bustle over to her.

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"Hi! I'm so glad you could make it. Mireo's lawyer's been grumbling about filing a hardship complaint, family's not supposed to have more than an hour's commute for visitation and with some species we're obliged to keep the commute under twenty minutes - could make the case Amentans ought to be one of those species..." She shows them the correct shuttle.

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"...what does species have to do with it?" asks the kid, who is four. They get on.

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"Well, the prison conditions that are considered adequate vary a great deal by species - some need open water, say, or space to fly in. For some species regular contact with family dramatically reduces recidivism and the stress of an arrest, and for some, doesn't matter so much as long as they can email. Or some species, like Elves, just aren't structured so an hour's commute is inconvenient. The court's overarching job is to have a prison environment that is accessible, safe, and comfortable for anyone, but the details depend on circumstances. Mireo's lawyer would argue that we're not meeting our own standards for Amentan prisoners unless their families have a very short commute."

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"We could have gotten to a lot of parts of Calado in twenty minutes."

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The shuttle jumps. It's now in Elendil. She gestures for them to disembark and board one for Vanda Nossëo. "I think there are logistical issues with having a shuttleport in Calado right now, the court might just rule you get your own teleporter to take you there directly."

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"Wow."

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"There are a couple on retainer for that purpose. Expensive, but we don't take our own standards very seriously if we're not willing to spend money to make them happen." Vanda Nossëo - Elendil shuttles run every five minutes. They board one. 

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The husband and kid are kind of gawking at all the everything.

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The shuttle ports are set up like train stations except without the rails; the shuttles just teleport in and out. Lots of the people going back and forth look like Amentans with the wrong hair color; some are Elves; some are more alien aliens, with four or six legs or tentacle eyes. The shuttle jumps again. 


"Okay, last shuttle, Vanda Nossëo to the prison," she says cheerfully, as they arrive in a very very large astonishingly beautiful shuttle station.

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"I guess it wouldn't be that much worse than learning a subway," says husband dubiously.

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"I can get you the language thing so you can at least read the signs." Down an escalator. "And keep you company for a few more trips, if the courts deny a direct teleporter."

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"Thanks."

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They board the last shuttle. "Elendil is the biggest transit point in your galaxy," she says, "and Vanda Nossëo has direct jumps to every member planet at least hourly, so this is the way to get anywhere in the consortium."

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"How do the shuttles go?" asks the kid.

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"They have a teleporter in the front cabin who moves them. It's a good job if you want to be able to teleport - you agree to move the shuttles and if you pass all the screening they'll agree to have you teleport-enabled."

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"What caste is it?" the kid asks.

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"...we don't have castes."

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"...well, we do."

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"...well I don't think the shuttle companies would refuse to hire someone who was the wrong Amentan caste for the job, since they'll hire aliens without any caste at all. What sorts of jobs does your caste do?"

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"Dancing and security and boating and sports and stuff."

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"There are security teleporter jobs - transporting prisoners to and from hearings is a teleporter job, arresting officers can teleport so they can move someone to a cell without endangering anybody - if you wanted to teleport and wanted something more like what you'd do at home." The last shuttle jumps. They're on a pretty ringed planet, next to an ocean.

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Ooh, rings.

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And she walks them to the prison, which is right by the shuttleport for the convenience of visitors. The prison has a scanner for them to walk through that checks for dangerous magic things. Visitors wear a visitor badge.

 

Pregnant lady and her husband are hanging out in the main room looking at onesies on their computer. He's wearing a visitor badge. 

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Husband and kid put on their badges and double-take at the pregnant lady.

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And they can have six hours of visitation!

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They visit. They want to know what the pregnant lady did.

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She was part of a sect opposed to galactic membership which assassinated several politicians over it!

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Why didn't they want to be members?

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Their religion opposes birth control and the Vanda Nossëo health clinics offer it.

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That seems incredibly dangerous, the opposing birth control.

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...dangerous?

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...because then there will be lots of babies, all out of control.

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...yes, people in that religion do have lots of kids. It's still a fairly minority religion because the retention rate is pretty low. They'll intervene if someone has more children than they can provide for, of course.

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"But they're just allowed to have all the kids they want?"

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"...yes?"

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"...on our planet letting people do that violates like all the international treaties."

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"Oh. There aren't treaties about population size here, just about standards of living and things. If someone's population were growing so fast they were all starving and couldn't survive without ongoing external aid then there'd be an intervention for that population in particular but most places are doing just fine without rules so there's not much need to add them."

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"Don't they run out of room?"

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"Oh, not really - people emigrate, found new planets and things."

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Grey family looks at each other.

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"We've gotten forty new colony planets off the ground since we joined!" says someone else cheerily. "Every idiot with a grand idea about how to run society was like 'I will found a planet that is Run Perfectly' and then they petitioned and if their grand idea was actually a lawful, safe place, whether it was a good idea or not, the petition usually went through so now we've got a place where the workers own the means of production and a place that's all tiny islands with Dunbar's number of people and a planet for the anarcho-capitalists and a planet for the orthodox Aratothalians and a planet where the whole place is under that truth effect the courts use and a planet that's mostly people resurrected from the 2200s..."

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"...anybody can start a planet and there are only forty?"

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"Long waitlist, you need a lot of magic to make one and it's a kind of magic in short supply. You get bumped up the waitlist if there are more people signed up to live on your planet once it exists. I think Mîr has thousands, because Mîr can make them faster."

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"How does anyone decide where to go?"

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"You know, read about the laws and visit and decide where seems like a nice place to live. Or there's tons of reviews and debate on the internet, or you go where all your neighbors are going..."

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"Don't essential services on the previous planets get disrupted by mass emigration?"

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"If there were some place so bad that lots of its citizens would leave if they could I don't think it'd make it as far as being a member planet. Member planets are nice, it's the law, they've got to have good schools and good healthcare and reliable internet and transportation and just, consistently-enforced laws and freedom of speech and so on - and lots of people would rather fix their home than find a new one... I can't think of anywhere where tons of people left as soon as they were allowed -"

"I think there were a couple? But they were things like 'these ethnic groups hated each other, one of them left', usually without all that much economic integration to start with."

"It's legal to have a six-month emigration process so you can fill in gaps in services. Fayytr has a yearlong process, that one's getting challenged in court."

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Eventually the husband and kid go home.

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Teleporting Elves make food deliveries in Yvalta.

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One of them is accosted by an orange who runs his way, falls into a kneel, skids on his knees toward him, and clutches at his robe. "I will do anything you want if I can bring my wife away from here and have a baby," he says.

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...Elf is startled. "...uh. Okay. Where's your wife -"

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"She's at the clinic."

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"...are you going to get in trouble for - please stand up, I promise it'll be okay - are you going to get in trouble for asking this -"

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"Only if you don't take us."

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"Right now?"

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"Now would be good."

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"...okay. Let's go get your wife, then - please stand up -"

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He stands up and brushes himself off and sets off clinicward, looking over his shoulder sometimes to make sure the Elf is still there.

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The Elf is still there! Looking very concerned!

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The man goes and pulls his wife out of the clinic. She is also orange and limps.

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"...hi. Do you want to, uh, come back to Ambaróna with me and I'll get you both citizenship - and you can have as many children as you want -"

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She makes a confused whimpering noise and clings to her husband's arm but nods.

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Pop pop pop they're in an absurdly spacious sixteenth-floor studio apartment that looks out on a stunning streetful of Elves. This Elf looks very confused and distressed. "Uh. Here we are. I've got, um, a couple more hours of deliveries, are you going to be okay here until I'm done with work for the day - I'll land outside my apartment and knock, I won't teleport in on you -"

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"There's - food in the kitchen, I think it should all be fine for Amentans, you can have whatever you need, we don't have population controls here - are you okay -"

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"Thank you."

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"- of course."

Distressed Elf vanishes.

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The oranges look around a little in the apartment, politely noninvasive.

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It's neat and spacious and has lots of tasteful artwork and an alien piano and a balcony. Their chosen Elf seems to live alone. The kitchen is well-stocked with unfamiliar fruits and vegetables and breads and a plate of cookies.

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...they take a little fruit and bread.

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They are strange but definitely still fruit and bread.

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And then they curl up on the couch and cuddle and calm down.

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There's a knock on the door a couple hours later.

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Mr. Orange gets it.

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It's their Elf. "Hi. I'm done with work. Is it a good time for me to come in?"

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"Yes, of course." He steps aside, bows a little.

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"...I'm not anybody important. If you were confused about that. I can get you citizenship and the kids won't be a problem but I'm not - uh, if we had a caste system my hair would be purple I think, I do deliveries."

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"One kid. She's nineteen," murmurs Mr. Orange.

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"- okay. I - Eru." He shakes his head. "Uh, my name is Andúnar, it's very nice to meet you."

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"I'm Lynt and she's Vae."

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"Do you want to see a doctor about the limp?"

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"She is a doctor, it's not something we can fix..."

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"We might be able to, though, we have magic."

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"- yes please."

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"- okay, I'm going to call someone with the healing spell to drop by, that might be easier than taking you out and about right now." He wrinkles his brow slightly. "They'll be here in a minute. So she's - a doctor - and what do you do -"

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"Addiction counseling."

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Nod. "And what do you guys need - a place to stay, I'll look into that, citizenship's pretty easy as long as you stay out of trouble - I guess there are prenatal supplements and things and Elf ones might not be good enough..." There's a knock on the door.

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Oranges look up.

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He opens it. It's another Elf. 

"Hi!" says the new Elf. "I have healing. I touch you and it should fix injuries or illness. Would you like me to do that?"

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"Yes please," says Mr. Orange, pointing at Mrs. Orange.

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Elf taps her.

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She straightens out her leg and beams.

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Elf beams back. "That everything?"

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"Yes, thank you so much," she says.

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"Of course." Out he goes.

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Oranges cuddle back up.

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" - I'm actually thinking maybe you could go to Afterlife. You'd have a little bit longer to conceive and it's - very the opposite of Yvalta."

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"...Afterlife?"

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"It's another planet near here, it has - a time effect where everything happens about a tenth as fast, so I'm pretty sure it'd continue to be spring longer for Amentans. You don't have to, I'm just trying to think what'll - work best - stress isn't good for babies -"

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"We'll go anywhere," says Mr. Orange.

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" - yeah, let's do that. Also a place to live will be cheaper - do you want a city or the countryside -"

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"Where is there work -"

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"I'll pay your expenses, Elves hold that people shouldn't work when they have little children because it's good for them to spend the time with the children."

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Mrs. Orange sniffs.

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He wavers uncertainly. "If you really love your work you don't have to quit or anything, just - it seems like finding a new job in a new country while you're pregnant would be hard and scary and it doesn't have to be."

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"We don't really love our work," says Mr. Orange, "it just, we would have done anything and you don't want us to do anything -"

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"It's such a big universe," he says unhappily, "there are so many people and we want to give this to everybody but we can't do it fast enough."

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Oranges cling to each other.

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"Let me know when you want to go. Uh, if you'd like anything from home, I should do that first, so we don't have to make lots of trips."

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"Oh - we weren't expecting to have a chance to pack -"

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"I mean, I don't know if we're going to be in trouble with your country or anything, but if not I can take you back there and you can pack. Why didn't they - why didn't they let you - if the rule is that people get kids when they contribute and - doctors and counselors are important -"

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"It was a - series of complicated - mistakes," he says, "you probably don't want the whole story -"

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" - I kind of do but it's really not my business - you're clear on that I'm not going to take this away, right, you're here now and have the right to have your child and nothing can change that..."

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Oranges blink at hm.

Mr. Orange says, "She got out of medical school when she was seven and went on an eight year service track with our House to get a permission at fifteen and eligible to re-up and be set for another at nineteen, but shortly before spring four years ago we were audited to see if we'd be fit parents and I'd taken a patient's stash and hadn't turned it in yet and they found it and disqualified her and it took a year and a half to appeal and she was allowed to start over but it was too late for an eight year track to get anywhere, so she switched to an independent clinic with better hours and money but no permissions and we started trying to switch Houses, and we found one with accelerated double tracks for couples and were on one of those but the head of House died and the successor lost some important political mess with the other blues and didn't have as many permissions to hand out and voided our contracts and we've been trying to find anything else and people keep telling me to divorce her and find someone else because I'm younger but -"

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"...that's. Not how the law works in other places. Just so you know."

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"We know other countries are different. We tried to swap somewhere but no one would take it."

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Nod. "Okay. Why don't - why don't we go back so you can pack and I'll check if anyone's sold the house on Afterlife that my family would sort of have a claim to and buy a new one if that one's taken and then you'll be all set."

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"Thank you."

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He takes them back.

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She's scolded for leaving work and making her co-worker finish a procedure by herself and scurries home with her husband rather than talk to anyone from the clinic. They pack.

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He checks whether anyone has laid claim to the house in Afterlife that corresponds to the one in Tirion his family vacated in going off to war. No one has. He takes them there. It's in a little town on a bright clear mountain lake. Fifteen thousand people and a cobblestone street and a train station. 

The house is spacious and exquisitely pretty and for some reason not dusty at all even though no one has been here in years.

"Will this do?"

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"It's so beautiful," breathes Mrs. Orange.

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"Thank you. I - I never lived here exactly but this house was built to replace the one I grew up in, which was destroyed in the war. It's all yours. Oh -" tap tap. "For the language. Afterlife doesn't have many laws, just - be a good neighbor, pretty much - but they censor violent or sexual or distressing content on the internet. It's obnoxious - you won't get in trouble for anything but they might delete, like, crime novels, if you try writing online crime novels. And Elves don't have a nudity taboo but we have a thing about loose hair, we usually braid it."

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"...we don't write novels..."

Mr. Orange starts braiding his hair; Mrs. Orange's is very short.

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"Then you'll be fine. I just wanted to make sure you knew everything so it's not surprising. And so you don't, like notice how bland all the journalism is and wonder what they're hiding - they're not, this is just a very bland place." Giggle.

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"Thank you."

"Is it only fiction, should we - not talk about where we came from -"

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"I think you should talk as much as you want about where you came from. Maybe not to children."

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Nod.

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"I'm going to tell the neighbors you're here and recovering from a stressful time and they will probably arrange to bring you meals while you get your feet under you, is that all right?"

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"That would be so lovely - thank you -"

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"Of course. I - I'm really glad you asked me."

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Mr. Orange smiles tentatively.

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Smile. "I'll stop by in a week to make sure you're settled in okay?"

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"Thank you so much."

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"Of course. - oh, the grocery store is just down the street, just walk along it until you see a sign that says 'grocery', and you can just tell them you can't pay right now, they won't care."

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"They won't?"

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"Not at all. I mean, they might know more than me about what kind of programs there are these days to help with that and they might sign you up for one of those, but they'd never want someone to have an empty pantry just because they didn't have money, they'll be so glad you went and got food."

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"All right. And you've done - something about the language?"

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"You'll be able to read and speak it now. Any language anywhere, actually."

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"Is this going to affect how the baby learns language?"

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"I'd have to check the manual -" He frowns. "Uh, apparently it's not recommended to do to a child under, ah, Amentan two or so, but he or she will hear you in your native language by default and should learn it fine - you'd want to switch it off if you were teaching your child to read in Quenya or something like that."

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Nod.

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"- oh, you can write me if you need anything, I have a notepad -" It has his name at the top, c/o Ambaróna open channel - "It gets forwarded to me about thirty-five minutes past the hour, usually." He gives them the notepad.

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"Thank you."

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"Take care."

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Oranges go in the house.

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Neighbors bring meals.

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They are thanked profusely!

(And when the meals slow down they get to work on making a baby.)

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Greys' defense attorneys stop by again to ask them if they've had a bit more time to process their options.

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One of them has picked a place she wants to move to. Others are narrowing it down.

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That one can have a deal where she agrees that it's not good to kidnap people, promises that she is removing herself from the environment in which the whole mess occurred, and gets the whole thing dropped.

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The blue case goes to court. Her attorney has lined up a selection of Calador blues agreeing that this is totally part of the legitimate and reasonable operations of their legal system. The prosecution observes that, had the Elves been notified that they had been arrested, they would have had expectations about how they could be treated and how long they could legally be held, and that there were a lot of opportunities to suggest that was what was going on, none of which were taken. The prosecution observes that this would, if the Elves hadn't had writing materials around, be a negligent murder case, and that taking people into custody involves assuming a degree of responsibility for their wellbeing and maintenance which no one in Calado displayed. 

The Elves testify very compellingly that they were concerned these terrifying strangers who were holding them prisoner without an explanation might, once it became clear they wouldn't cooperate, escalate from vague threats, and that any hint they'd been arrested as part of the operations of a functional legal system under which they had rights would have been very reassuring. They are asked if they think the Senator intended them to feel assured they had rights and would be released even if they declined to answer questions. They say very charitably that they do not really think so.

The prosecution further and very irritably observes that if the court accepts the legal theory proposed by the defense and finds this to have been a lawful arrest in the absence of any tangible evidence that anyone involved thought of it as an arrest or communicated as much or intended to release the defendants once the safety concern was mitigated, then the court will be finding that Calado's senators can never under any circumstances be guilty of kidnapping people.

Does Datna want to testify.

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Will it help?

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"Can you say under the truth effect that at the time you were thinking of it as an arrest for public safety reasons? Or that you intended to arrange their safe release even if they didn't answer questions? Or that any implication they might come to harm if they didn't cooperate was definitely unintended -"

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"The last thing, probably. I'm not sure about the first."

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" - then probably no, but if you're convicted you can testify to the last thing at sentencing and they won't be allowed to ask about the first because it wouldn't be sentencing-relevant."

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She sighs and follows her lawyer's advice. This justice system is weird.

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This justice system thinks she kidnapped three of their citizens and should spend five (local) years in prison for it, reevaluation after two for good behavior and making restitution and progress at understanding why it's wrong to kidnap people.

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Ugh.

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The justice system doesn't especially care how she feels about this. 

 

 

The Vanda Nossëo representatives in Rivik are having a really hard time communicating the 'if they can fill out a ballot they get to do that' thing.

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"But they can't, because they can't have any ballots, because they're red," explains their liaison patiently.

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"No, see, they get a ballot, and then if being red impedes filling it out somehow then it doesn't get filled out."

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"I think there's something you're not understanding. These are reds, they're untouchable, and they don't vote."

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"...look, if you don't want membership then you don't have to have any votes at all, but if you are having any votes, the procedure for votes is that ballots are made accessible online and in person everywhere and then every ballot that gets filled out counts except for duplicates filled out by the same person."

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"Reds aren't people, they're garbage."

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"I carefully phrased that explanation of our rules in a way that obviates that debate entirely."

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"Do you want us to carefully place ballots in crematoriums, too?"

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"Sure! And in zoos and accessible to any computers you have which might be intelligent. Anything capable of filling out a ballot will be counted, and the other ones can be made out of something biodegradeable so they don't cause clutter."

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"...I'm not sure if you understand the point of voting or if you just heard of the idea somewhere and thought it sounded fun."

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"The point of this approach to voting is that it bypasses questions of who deserves a voice and says that every voice we can hear will be considered and that we'll try really hard to be listening everywhere."

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"Why do you throw out duplicates, then?"

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"It's, like, 'we'll hear every voice we can' doesn't imply 'and if you shout you get more weight'."

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"Suppose we were hive minds or something, that makes more sense than letting reds vote."

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"There is a procedure for hive minds."

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"- well, now I'm curious."

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"It was negotiated with an Edda species, it kicks in only if individual subentities don't parse as a person to a subtle artist but the entity as a whole displays communicative intelligence."

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"...right. Anyway, we can't have reds voting. The zoos thing we can maybe do."

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" - it's easier to argue for distributing ballots in zoos in case your monkeys are intelligent than distributing them to reds, who are intelligent?"

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"Monkeys aren't unclean. Untidy maybe but not polluted."

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"I see."

 

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"I don't think we'll be able to work with you if you want reds to vote. This isn't, you understand, anything to do with how we think they'd vote - there aren't enough of them to sway much - it's just the principle."

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"It seems to be a very strongly held principle." Sigh. 

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"You have special cases for a lot of things, I'm frankly appalled this isn't one."

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"It would, historically speaking, usually have been a mistake to carve out exceptions for beings capable of casting a ballot who people felt should not be permitted to do so."

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"All the other cases you mentioned were ridiculous and I vaguely wonder if they were made up."

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"I'd be delighted to take you around so you could talk to locals about them."

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"Maybe when I have a vacation coming up."

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"All right. Thanks for your time."

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"Let us know if you change your mind about letting the garbage vote."

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Sigh.

 

 

They discuss it later. "It's - possible that this isn't actually what the reds would prefer? Like, we don't want to be in the position of taking a stance for their sake that hurts them - we could ask them, if they overwhelmingly prefer membership without voting rights or something that I can imagine a court carving out an exception for -"

"...I guess..."

          " - you're allowed to visit them, right, if you wear the plastic covers and do the shower afterwards -"

"Yeah, you are."

         "So we could go ask."

Elves venture into a Rivikni red district.

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Reds are scared and go into their homes.

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All of them?

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Two of them were in a hearse and are hiding in that instead.

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...okay. They sit down next to a building and sing quietly and wait to see if any reds get less nervous.

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Not for a long time.

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They've Elves. And also don't have any work to do here if this doesn't get resolved. After a really long time one of them will arrange someone to teleport in and drop them food. They eat the food and keep waiting.

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After four hours the hearse ones get out and make a break for it, heading for the nearest apartment building.

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"We're scaring them."

     "Yeah."

"If they wanted to talk they could have written into the channel."

    "Not if they thought something bad would happen to them."

"If they thought something bad would happen if they wrote something we could read they're not going to just talk to us."

    "Maybe not today or this week but - I don't want to just write this country off as a stupid backwater that hates reds more than they want kids until -"

"Yeah, sure, we can stay. They'll probably get less scared over time. I'll ask about regular food deliveries." She does that.

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After six hours some cops come in to the neighborhood.

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"Hello."

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"Hey. What are you doing here?"

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"Observing. Someone suggested we explain to a court that there should be an exception to the rules that would let them vote and you need firsthand information to make an argument like that."

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Cops confer briefly amongst themselves, then the same one says, "You need to clear out, they're not showing up to work."

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"...we could do invisible? So we don't interfere with that but don't have to give up on getting this country a colony planet entirely."

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"You can come back after we've told them to show up to their jobs, we want you out of here altogether for now."

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"Why? People interacting with them is exactly the kind of thing we'll need to take to the court."

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"You're the ones who scared 'em. Shoo."

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"Okay!" They stand up. "It's really important none of them get hurt  - I'm sure you know that, but just in case - if there's violence against a population while we're here and which we could be said to be even tangentially involved in, it gets escalated like crazy and suddenly there are two thousand galactic observers and sixteen thousand journalists and felony murder charges for everyone and their relatives - I know you obviously wouldn't hurt people over not going to work, that doesn't even get them to work any faster, it just bears mentioning because it'd be such a catastrophe if it came up."

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"...killing a red isn't murder anyway, what are you talking about?"

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"If any reds were to die there would be nearly twenty thousand people here tomorrow reconstructing everything that happened, because that's how our procedures work, and there would be murder charges all around because our courts currently treat reds like people. That's exactly why we're here, figuring out whether it makes sense to petition them to reconsider, but right now that's how they do it and they're absolutely obsessive about violence against local populations which their representatives could be said to be involved in."

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"That seems like their problem."

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"I guess maybe all the observers would be good for the local economy."

      "You shouldn't joke about something like that."

"Oh, come on, it's just ridiculous - no one in the universe is going to execute their sanitation workers over being late to work because there were aliens in the way."

      "I know that. You still shouldn't joke about it."

"I was really honestly warning them, I thought they might want to know it was really important to be careful."

     "It's kind of insulting, though - it's not like police have to be really careful to avoid beating people to death."

"...that's fair. I apologize. I didn't mean that as an insult in the slightest."

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"...look, the trash need to do their jobs and if they don't or they mouth off they get it explained so they can understand, that's none of you guys's business."

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"...well, yeah, explaining things to them is good, it's beating them to death that would be bad. We're on the same page here. I wasn't saying, like, 'don't hurt their feelings', I was saying 'if somebody died it'd be a massive international incident'."

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"It shouldn't be."

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"That's what we're observing them to try to figure out! But it'll be a process to persuade the courts to handle this planet differently, it'll take a couple months at minimum, and in the meantime if anything were to happen, which I totally trust you that it won't, they'll handle it just like if we went to talk to some civilians and then those civilians got murdered for talking to us - which is to say, massive exhaustive public investigation and murder trial."

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"Did they talk to you?"

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"Nope. Ran away, every last one of them. Do they even talk?"

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"Sometimes. If they didn't talk to you there's no question of anything happening to 'em because of it, is there?"

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"You just said a minute ago that the reason we have to leave is because we're the ones who scared them, there's no way we're convincing a court it's not our fault."

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Cops look at each other. Cops send some messages on their everythings.

Cops leave.

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...okay. 

 

When teleporter comes back Elves ask to be invisible.

 

Elves go invisible.

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Reds start tentatively trickling out after they have been "gone" for about half an hour.

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Elves are finding it really hard to stay here for very long without singing but they borrow the eyes of their colleagues in Cene who are talking trade agreements in a pretty skyscraper and cope.

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Reds go to work. Eventually some of them come back. Reds move between red buildings. Kids play in the street, a little, carefully out of view of the exits.

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Not all the ones who went to work come back?

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Not yet, anyway.

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They wait and sing oh so very quietly.

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Too quietly for reds to hear?

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...mostly?

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Some of the kids notice. They pause, listening suspiciously.

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Very very quiet singing.

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The kids bolt. Soon the streets are cleared out again. Work vehicles continue to come and go but give the singing Elves a wide berth.

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It is kind of horrifying that these people are so terrified. The Elves do not leave.

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Reds continue to go about their business and go nowhere near Elves.

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Elves remain determined to wait this out, since there is nothing else useful to do in their entire assigned country.

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It does eventually become clear that not all the reds are coming back from work.

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Uh huh.

 

They have a forensics demon look that up.

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Couple of them went to work and got murdered.

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By police or just random people at their place of employ?

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One of each!

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Vanda Nossëo sends Rivik a courtesy notification that there's an investigation into loss of life in connection with interdimensional contact and that galactic observers will be present for the foreseeable future, as will the media. Should Rivik choose to cooperate with the criminal investigation into the murders, the observers are equipped to collaborate with them and provide forensic support and factfinding; should Rivik find that events do not merit prosecution under local law, Vanda Nossëo will handle it all themselves. 

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Rivik says that they haven't signed anything and Vanda Nossëo is to leave their citizens alone.

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Vanda Nossëo has made the following arrests for murder in connection with the ongoing investigation. They understand that extended contact can cause all kinds of problems and will keep the observers and investigators as unobtrusive as possible; most Rivikni citizens should never even see one, and they'll wrap up the investigation as quickly and neatly as they can.

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...they can't have those citizens they arrested and should give them back.

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Here's the case summary, should it be of interest to Rivik's government!

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Are they deaf? Here it is in sign.

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Recently Vanda Nossëo insisted that some planet that was practicing slavery stop that. A regional governor murdered all his slaves. This was legal under local law. He was still arrested and convicted under galactic law. He appealed. He did not win his appeals.

Or, in clearer language: no.

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Rivik complains to all its friends. All its friends are very concerned. Has Vanda Nossëo considered not abducting people? They don't like it when their people are abducted, right?

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Galactic law allows for prosecutions for rape, torture, murder, enslavement, and arbitrary deportation or forced transfer of populations. The laws are straightforward and there's a translation available in every Amentan language. Vanda Nossëo will enable local prosecutions if local governments are willing and able to prosecute. The case law and some relevant helpfully-chosen examples are also available in every Amentan language. 

Examples are mostly people who killed members of oppressed ethnic or social or religious groups after learning that the aliens planned to give them rights. There is a lot of case law. This comes up a fair bit.

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Rivik's friends think that Vanda Nossëo does not understand.

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Vanda Nossëo sends more case law and an accompanying summary to the effect 'yeah, we get that a lot'.

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Many Amentan countries walk back their negotiations if Vanda Nossëo will not promise not to kidnap anyone. This does not seem like too much to ask. They don't like it when their people are kidnapped.

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This is apparently too much to ask. 

"With all due respect," says an ambassador in a country that is stalling, "this is very unlikely to come up and would affect one or two murderers and no one else if it did. I'm absolutely not saying you're wrong to be upset, but I can tell you the conversation that's going to happen in headquarters and it's: 'some of the countries on Planet 77115-180 are withdrawing because they're upset about section 16 enforcement.'

'How many section 16 enforcements have there been?'

'Two. It's the principle.' 

'77115-180 is the place that wanted colony planets up front with membership, right? Honestly it's easier logistically if they decide not to bother, the top prospective planets on the standard waitlist all have more than a billion interested parties. Tell Terraforming we're maybe not expecting as much demand from 77115-180'.

Look, to me it's really important Celenta feel able to join and get its colony planet, because I think it's good for you. To you, whatever you decide, this decision is really important because it's the country your grandkids will grow up in. On Vanda Nossëo's end, there are precisely-this-many resources to go around and if you don't want them, great, someone else does. So they're not going to strike a big section of galactic law off the books, and they're not going to carve out an exception - they hate carving out exceptions - they're just going to take whatever they were going to give you and give it to someone else."

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"Look, it's not that we lose a lot of sleep over Rivikni who can't leave the reds alone. People aren't allowed to do that around here anyway, it takes years to grow a replacement. But before you came here people just plain didn't get kidnapped by aliens, and now apparently sometimes people get kidnapped by aliens. You didn't say, 'oh, well, I suppose Calado can do what it likes, they probably don't like having to act differently when aliens are involved', when they took some of your people. I don't have any trouble believing that Vanda Nossëo's an uncaring giant bureaucracy. I just don't think that's the image they're going for and in most other respects they've been doing a good job of projecting otherwise; why this, why now?"

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"Actually if Calado had arrested them that would have been fine, the entire judicial case turned on whether they had arrested them or just snatched them out of the sky. 'Abductions' is a silly characterization here and we all know it. I get why you don't want outsiders making arrests. If you criminalize that here anyway, then I actually am in a position to promise you that it won't happen here. But the laws have reasons for them - good reasons, horrible crimes that I think, reading about them, you'll be glad were punished. And the way to change them, if you think they need to change, is to join and become our judges and policymakers and have fifteen kids until you're the biggest voting bloc we've got. I just - I just feel like people are thinking 'this'll really show the aliens, we won't go along with them now' and it won't, all the people who suffer for it will be right here."

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"You add people very fast. We might not outbreed orcs, let alone the next species you find, to say nothing of how you sign on more planets every week."

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"I actually made them do a reevaluation of the whole waitlist looking for people who want kids as much as you - I think we should weigh it more. There might be no sense which shows up on the statistics in which you are high-priority, but - I think that means we're setting priority wrong. Anyway, we haven't found anything like you. I don't know if this is the particular thing you want to hammer on, but whatever things you want to hammer on, I think you're going to be in a position to make them happen. 

Would it make a difference if it were only murderers at risk of alien arrest, I can ask the legal side to register some factual determinations about Amentan international law that'd amount to that."

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"How would that work?"

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"So the categories are murder, rape, torture, enslavement, forcible deportation. What we do is hire a bunch of really good lawyers to go file an emergency petition to the effect that Amentan international law already prohibits those, therefore it should be on the record that Amentans can't get section-16ed because local law is adequate. Except local law doesn't consider killing of reds to be murder and we do, so local law is adequate except with respect to the category of killings of reds. ...or is raping and torturing them legal, I expect a really good lawyer could win this if the penalties are pretty light but there's no way in hell if it's just outright legal."

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"I think that depends on the place. It'd usually at least get you pollution violation if you couldn't prove you went through decontam every time."

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Ambassador makes a face. "So as soon as we figure out how to relocate the reds, a section 16 injunction breezes through, and until then it'll be talking to a brick wall."

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"Why is forcible deportation on there anyway, are you supposed to give illegal immigrants a fruit basket?"

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"Whole phrase is 'arbitrary deportation or forcible transfer of whole populations'. Deporting people who committed a crime or aren't citizens isn't relevantly arbitrary. Clearing out a conquered province for your people to live there would count, though. - if we'd gotten here forty years ago would you have wanted us to say to the Oahk Empire - 'that looks pretty ugly...it's legal locally? okay, I guess...'"

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"Nobody sings the praises of the last Emperor of Oahk except edgy political science students. But I'm wondering what you'd do if you considered local custom and law a meaningful constraint instead of something you can section sixteen according to your own culture instead."

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"We'd only make contact with societies that weren't up to things we couldn't overlook. The Federation runs on a model a bit like that. They're neighbors of yours - haven't said hello, obviously."

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"What's their problem with us?" he sighs. "Also reds?"

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"They object to the rest of the caste system too."

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"...really?"

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"I will send you a copy of the Federation charter. They also demand a unified world government, I think just for administrative simplicity?

Honestly the caste system seems pretty strange to us too, but we draw our line about where to stop respecting local culture at rape torture and murder."

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"Would you or for that matter the Federation demand a zero rate of unprosecuted murder or are you just making a point of the reds because it's a news item at home?"

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"Oh, we've been keeping the reds the hell out of the news at home, that would be a disaster, I guarantee you there'd be university student groups trying to sneak here to take reds home with them. There were journalists on the Rivikni thing but that's because we self-police really strongly on causing crimes here, and I think they're reporting it as some Rivikni eccentricity being appropriately handled. But to answer your question - if another murder came to our attention we'd forward you the evidence from conjuration and trust you to take it from there - you have a really good justice system, and I don't think I'm just jaded by wading through dysfunctional ones. The problem is gonna be when we run across a dead body and no local law to hand it off to. Honestly, if it were illegal to torture reds but the penalty were a week in prison we wouldn't have a leg to stand on, that's an extant system and we defer to those wherever they exist."

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"Rivik's going to be particularly stubborn, about reds."

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"Why exactly -"

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"Oh, nobody likes them, Rivik just actually hates them."

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"Have the Rivikni ones rioted more so there's more open tensions..."

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"I don't think so. Every now and then one does something outrageous - goes and bludgeons someone half to death and then jumps off a building or something."

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"...that, uh, sounds. Implausible."

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"I don't mean 'they keep reaching for armed cops', that's cops blowing off steam, that happens everywhere."

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"Uh huh."

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"We don't let them do that here, it does take years to grow a new red and it's almost always the ones with jobs we need done."

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Sigh. "I am glad to hear that."

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"I do think there may be an extent to which you need to decide on a narrative between 'one day, aliens came to Amenta and made things unambiguously better' and 'one day aliens came to Amenta and made demands and wouldn't take no for an answer'."

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"We'll never make demands. We'll sometimes arrest murderers if the murder is obviously instigated by our presence and the local government can't or won't enforce the law. Joining is voluntary, spaceport's voluntary, you can tell us all to go away and we will. But 'aliens came to Amenta, people got murdered over it, their murderers got off' doesn't ring to me as 'made everything unambiguously better'."

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"I don't think you can assume any given dead red especially in Rivik wouldn't have happened anyhow."

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"They were late for work because aliens spooked them into hiding, they got murdered for being late to work. By our standards of evidence that's enough for a strong presumption. And Rivik can't kill two per day on a regular basis, they'd run out of 'em."

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"It's not a newsworthy day, even if it isn't typical."

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"If there were some country where murdering purples were legal and some got killed for talking to us and we made a fuss, do you think people'd get where we were coming from?"

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"Sure. Especially purples. But that's not what you're dealing with here."

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"Mmhmm."

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"You're throwing around very big bribes. But you could still stand to be at all concerned with the optics."

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"I know. Or - less the optics and more wanting everyone to feel safe and confident in the predictability of their lives, that's important. If you have advice on how to sell the rules we work under, I'd be delighted."

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"I don't really understand why you can't just bring the reds back to life somewhere else, since you can do that, and keep them somewhere nice enough to suit you and not let them touch anything we need to touch."

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"Because three hundred worlds will scream in unison 'you're holding these innocent traumatized people prisoner to appease the assholes who've spent centuries systemically terrorizing them?' and file lawsuits which the courts will immediately uphold because it's not, in fact, legal to confine indefinitely for reasons of expedience people who haven't done anything wrong. Amenta could of course say they can't visit here, but we were told that it'd be devastating if we let them go about freely in the places that would be happy to have them."

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"You can't - come offer us the universe and then tell us oh, by the way, it will have a healthy layer of pollutants all over everywhere, but other than that it's very nice - well. Manifestly you can, but."

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"I don't want to do that. I may not understand what it is you think is wrong with them but that'd be a tragic way for this to go. But - it's also a tragic way for it to go if the entire universe is closed to them. And there appears to be literally no one in the universe who both agrees that the second thing is a tragedy enough to be credible to us in proposing solutions and believes in pollution enough to be credible to you in proposing solutions."

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"If you believed in pollution you wouldn't want them touching your things in the first place."

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"Are there any people who believe in, like, the pollutedness of actual gross things but don't think it makes any sense for it to be hereditary, or at least for it to be indefinitely hereditary - or at least that if we resurrect the Rivikni reds the resurrected ones wouldn't be unclean -"

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"Edgy university students, I suppose."

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Sigh. "And that Voan fellow who started a war over it."

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"...no, I don't think that's implied, I think he just thought the food was safe. It more or less was."

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"What's the mechanism by which resurrected reds are polluted, exactly?"

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"Aren't they just like they were before? I don't know how your process works."

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"It's a new body. Made from new atoms, just configured the same."

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"I'm not a theologian. Maybe it'd be all aright."

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Nod. "Should we leave, at least for a while while people are stressed about the Rivik prosecutions? It's not a yearlong process, you could start as late as the end of summer and still have a planet before you're setting credit allocations."

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"Not in the south."

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"Yeah, I'm sure my colleagues there are having a harder time of it. But I'm here, I only have to worry about you guys."

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"I think you should give Rivik their citizens back. But if you're wondering if it's past my breaking point, no."

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"All right. Let's figure out your spaceport shuttle schedules."

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Which they can do without mentioning reds at all.

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Everything really goes much better on literally any other topic. (Well, the Met team is having as much trouble on the topic of collective punishment.)

 

Rivik accused murderers get a hearing and a lawyer.

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The cop is angry and uncooperative. The green is having a lot of trouble stopping crying long enough to talk.

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"Should I come back tomorrow?"

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Sobbing!

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Lawyer comes back tomorrow.

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Green is still very very unhappy but has apparently run out of tears.

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"Should I get you in touch with a prison counselor or social worker? They can be really valuable. We have a lot of treatment options available for people who'd like mental health support."

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"...I'm n-not sick."

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"They work with people who are distressed, anxious, having a hard time coping with what's going on, just need someone to talk to..."

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"...what's going on is that y-you kidnapped me on the worst day I have ever, ever had - a therapist can't fix that -"

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"Okay. It's up to you. Now, I'm going to explain the evidence in this case, answer any questions you have about the process, and then we can talk about the questions you'd be asked if you testify. Does that make sense?"

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"No, what - case - what are you talking about, I didn't do anything -"

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"You were arrested on charges of murder in connection with the death of Ami Kvina."

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"...I don't even know anyone n-named Kvina."

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Lawyer has pictures.

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Green flinches. "You kidnapped me over that?"

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"That is the victim in the murder you stand accused of, yes."

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Green is maybe going to start crying again. "B-but it's a red."

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Sigh. "The case notes explained that your society holds that killing polluted people is permissible, yes. The court doesn't care."

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"Not polluted people -"

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Sigh. "Reds are polluted people. We checked."

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"...it's not legal to kill someone who gets polluted. Reds it doesn't matter."

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"It matters to the victims and their families, turns out, and to this court."

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Sniff.

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"The penalty for murder is up to ten Amentan years in prison."

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Crying!

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People who get arrested for serious crimes are often very upset about it. They can resume later. 

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She manages to calm down again after an extended period of time.

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"Do you want to tell me in your own words about what happened that day?"

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Sniff. "It was late and it ruined everything so I stabbed it with the sword prop from Flashing Brightly."

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Nod. "How did she ruin everything by being late, exactly?"

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"I put in the order before I went to rehearsal and it was supposed to be done and the purple cleaners done or almost by the time I picked up my daughter from school and came home. But it was still there and it had barely started. The hotels were booked. I have a condition where I can't be away from access to a bathroom and waiting for the neighbors to answer the door isn't fast enough. I had to go to my parents' and they're awful and my daughter's probably still there but you don't care, you care about the garbage."

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"She might have a daughter at home who will never see her mother again."

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Sniff.

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"The social workers here can help you arrange for your family to visit you in prison. If your daughter is very young or has no other safe environment you can also petition to have her here with you in prison, but usually they wouldn't want someone who murdered their plumber over being late to be around a vulnerable child unsupervised."

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"She's two. My parents are awful."

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"Are your parents the people who will get custody following your arrest?"

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"Her father is teaching abroad and might come back early but he doesn't know how they are."

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"...would emailing him to tell him help?"

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"I don't know. We're not actually close and haven't lived together since she was one we just went in together on the baby."

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"I can see about getting you supervised visitation." Write write.

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"My little girl is probably being hurt right now and you don't even care because there's a dead shitrag."

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"'defendant refers to her victim as a 'dead shitrag'' isn't going to do any favors on a petition to let you be around vulnerable children."

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Sob.

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"It's very rare that it's in kids' best interests to be in the custody of unrepentant murderers. It's even rarer when the murder was for a reason like 'was late to clean my apartment'. We're trying to do the best thing for your daughter here."

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"I would never leave her with my parents without me there to watch but you kidnapped me!"

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"You were arrested because you are suspected of murdering someone, ma'am."

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"My parents are horrible and they'll hurt her you're monsters -"

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"Why don't I recommend you someone who can help you draft an email to your husband letting him know that you'd like him to come back, and to the Rivikni courts about child abuse concerns if there are child abuse concerns."

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"My what? I'm not married."

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"Sorry. The father of the child."

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Sniff.

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"Does Rivik have a process for reporting suspected child abuse?"

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"Yeah."

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"Then it sounds like we should get started right away on contacting her father and reporting suspected child abuse. If he doesn't have the financial resources to care for her alone, there's a fund for that, the social worker can help you apply for that as well."

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"They make you tell them everything - I -"

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"..."

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Sniff.

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"If you're concerned about whether they'll believe a report, we can get our forensics team to do confirmation of anything you'd like confirmed and send them the evidence for that as well."

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"Is there anybody I could discuss this with who is not a monster."

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"I can tell a social worker to set up a meeting right away."

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"Are you sure they are not monster social workers."

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"I've known them to work very hard on behalf of all our inmates."

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"But are they going to care more about the plumber than my child."

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"I can make a note that that would be a problem."

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She looks away.

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She can have a social worker who would like to help her make sure her daughter's safe, should they get started on an email to her father first?

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"I already sent him one but he doesn't know how they are."

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"He hasn't been told, or he doesn't believe it?"

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"We're barely friends - I don't talk to people about it - I don't want to talk to people about it but if you're just leaving her there -"

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"It makes sense that you'd want to protect your daughter."

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"They will hurt her and probably have already and you're just leaving her there without me over a red."

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"Have you written anything up about who you'd like to have custody in the case where you are indisposed or in an accident of some kind?"

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"Her father gets custody if I die but he doesn't know how they are and he's out of the country."

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"And that wouldn't apply if you were arrested?"

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"If I were arrested by cops and not abducted by aliens they'd have asked me if I needed to make any childcare arrangements and I could have hired a babysitter or sent her to sleep over with her friends, we were only at my parents' because I needed a place for us to both go on short notice and the hotel was full and if I was there I could watch her."

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"And you can't make arrangements to hire a babysitter remotely?"

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"My parents will turn them away."

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"We could go back together, hire a babysitter, see that your daughter is set up with the babysitter, and then come back here."

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"Yes - thank you - thank you -"

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"Of course." She types some things. "They'll be here in a minute."

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"Who?"

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"Teleporter who can cover us for the trip."

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"They could just bring her to her father - no, her school's in Rivik, better not to interrupt if I can get a sitter..."

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"We should probably think about long-term arrangements as well, but it sounds like getting her to a better environment right now needs to happen and then we can worry about other things once she's safe."

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Nod nod.

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Teleporter arrives.

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The green calms down considerably when she can summon up an emergency orange sitter and tell him to go get the kid with a flurry of extra instructions ("she's got a key to my place, her favorites are in the fridge, she takes the 4 train to school, she can stay after till dinnertime, she needs to be picked up but she can go there on her own, tell her I love her and I didn't mean to disappear and I'll do what I can to see her again and I'm so sorry, here is extra budget for a counselor if she's shaken up she might be they're awful, here's her dad's email but he's out of the country, if you don't hear from me and run out of money and her dad won't pay you his brother lives upcountry doing weird art in a barn and it's four hours' walk from the nearest train station when the shuttles aren't running and they seldom are but he'll take her -")

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"There's funding we can apply for," social worker says. 

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"Monster charity," mutters the green. "Can I see her -"

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"I can testify that you should get visitation. Tomorrow you can see her."

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She nods. She sends the babysitter more instructions and waits for confirmation.

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Her escort waits with her.

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Finally she seems done when the babysitter sends her a picture of himself and the daughter safely on the train.

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Back they go. "I'm sorry we didn't get that set up sooner."

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"Real cops ask right away if you need to make childcare arrangements."

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"They're supposed to, and there's also supposed to be a social worker right there who can do this kind of thing. I'll check where they were."

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"I was crying a lot but they didn't even ask, I could have nodded."

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"I'll make sure there's an investigation."

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"An investigation," she snorts. "Like the one over the plumber? I can't trust this - alien monstrous thing you work for to - do anything, your priorities are literally from space."

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"I think you'd have about accurate expectations if you thought we cared about the same things as Amentans except we thought reds are people and killing them is murder."

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"But that's bizarre."

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She does not comment.

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"It's just not something I can assume would come out of an otherwise sane morality. I wouldn't have been any more surprised if you'd said 'oh it's all right that your parents are going to hurt her children aren't people' or - 'we consider grandparents' rights very important' or - or - 'she's in their house and it's a windy day so' -"

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"I understand how you could have been confused but now that you have an explanation, can you just - imagine you had met an Elf in the hallway getting back from your stressful day and murdered them with a nearby sword, and assume we're thinking of it exactly like that?"

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"Did the Elf show up ten hours late for planned work necessary to make my home habitable?"

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"Yes. Everything is the same except Elf instead of red."

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"I'm not sure yet if Elves are people in addition to being alien monsters."

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"I see."

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"I wouldn't kill a person or even an Elf because I'm not sure."

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"You did kill a person, because you were sure and wrong."

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The green looks at her with disgusted resignation.

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"Anything else I can do for you?"

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"Probably not."

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"Well, there are contact instructions on your computer for your lawyer, various civil rights organizations, various media outlets, my office, and the prison complaint office."

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Sigh.

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The Orvara team asks if their theologians have a take on whether resurrected reds are polluted. It would be great if they were not, because then reds could be resurrected and the galactic community would be less horrified about how they're being treated. Still horrified but, like, a little less so, and anyone who wanted to resettle reds could be given resurrected ones.

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Orvaran theologians will mull this over and write papers.

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Great. 

 

How many Yvalta Houses are looking interested in membership?

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Only the one is interested in membership regardless of which way the wind blows in the rest of them.

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Fair enough. 

"Can we decide we want to host the shuttleport on your land or would that cause you trouble by being hard to explain?"

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"People will assume I made some kind of deal. Might wonder what, won't be very suspicious if we won't tell them."

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"Want a shuttleport?"

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"How big is it?"

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"Train station sized. Might want a lot of space if you're planning to allow a lot of traffic, for crowd management, but the shuttles themselves run just like trains."

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"Handy. Can you put it underground like a subway? Maybe under a subway, even, Ayve Station."

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"If the engineers think that specific site is safe then yeah, underground is fine."

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"Great."

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"Do you happen to have contracts who're nineteen and never qualified for a kid?"

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"Only if they have bad audits - I have some people go around seeing if people will be okay parents, I try to let anyone who passes that have at least one."

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"What kind of thing gets a bad audit -"

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"Violent record, unsafe home, uncontrolled addiction to something - I go back and forth on abusive parents, in case there's something passed on, right now it's not disqualifying for the castes I'm not short on permissions for."

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"Seems like it'd discourage people reporting abusive parents, if it might cost them a kid someday."

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"- oh, nobody but the auditors know I do this at all."

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" - ah. They don't, I don't know, compare notes on the internet?"

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"Someone might notice I have a weird statistical distribution but all the Houses are different anyway."

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"That's really good of you. Making sure they get one, I mean."

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"When I was three my father gave me a purple permission to hand out and I tried to take it very seriously but I just gave it to the third purple I saw, he looked so sad."

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" - I find it very encouraging that that's how people end up running Houses of Yvalta."

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"...it's not, he was disappointed and gave it to my sister. She died and I set up my niece with another House's heir so I could take this one for real after my regency."

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"...ah. - are resurrections going to complicate the succession of this and that -"

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"...probably?"

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"Is that something we should anticipate and pre-empt in some way."

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"I'm not sure the House system will hold up under this kind of - chaos, anyway."

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"It does seem like it might be less appealing when people have the option of emigrating."

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Nod.

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"Are you expecting it'd be a peaceful transition?"

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"It'll be - rocky."

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"If there are resources we can provide that'd be helpful, it'd be good to know about that. I'm not confident it's at all wise for us to intervene in Amentan internal affairs beyond offering that."

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"I think it would be good to have a way to ask for things as they come up more than I can anticipate anything really specific."

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"Well. We do immediate resurrections for political stability reasons everywhere and everything else you can definitely let us know about as it comes up."

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Nod.

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(And whatever the Orvarans think about it, in a quiet spacious modern hospital on the human planet that yelled the loudest on the topic two dead reds wake up.)

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They are startled. They open their eyes but scarcely move.

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They're in the same room; so are half a dozen other people. Someone with brown hair is cheerfully explaining something to the person in the bed at the end of the row. "Good morning. This is a resurrection facility on Casentar. Today's date in Galactic Standard is the 27th of Aimire, year 41. If that doesn't mean anything to you, there's a datapad next to your bed with dates in a more familiar calendar system. You're in perfect physical health and can leave now if you'd like, but many people prefer to stay and get oriented."

    "Do you know how long it's been for me -"

"Five months."

    "Me -"

"Three weeks."

    "- I think it's been longer than that for me, there weren't resurrection facilities when I died -"

"Twelve years, yeah. Datapad also lists the people who requested you." 

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A red sits carefully slowly up and looks at the pad without touching it.

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It's been three weeks! It has their name and a note that they're Rivikni but Casentar got a judicial override to do the resurrection on the grounds that Rivik hadn't even cooperated with prosecution of their murderers.

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Kvina looks at the other one and murmurs this information to him.

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Brown-haired person approaches. "Hi," she says cautiously, standing back. "We haven't been able to get in touch with your family to ask how you'd want to be resurrected. I'm very sorry if this is a particularly stressful way to do it. Casentar is offering you both citizenship, if you decide that you'd like to stay here. Can I answer some questions for you?"

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"- did something happen to our families ma'am -"

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" - no, as far as I know they're perfectly fine and safe, just, they're in Rivik and we're not allowed to travel there, and even the people who are allowed to travel there have scared the reds really badly when they've tried to talk to them."

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Furrowed brow.

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"Amentan theologians are debating whether resurrected reds are clean. Because it's a new body. Casentar doesn't really care what Amentans think about it and if none of them want to visit our planet because you live here, good riddance."

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"...what... is Casentar?"

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"We're a planet. With aliens. - not very alien, we're a lot like you, there were other planets that wanted to do this but their aliens were more alien and it seemed like it might be a harder transition. We heard about you and got really angry and kicked up a big fuss until the courts agreed if we want to use our resurrections for the year on resurrecting Rivikni reds we have the right to do that."

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Reds look at each other.

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"Should I give you two some space?"

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"Are we allowed to touch - things -"

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"Whatever you want."

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...skepticism.

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"No one else in the universe thinks reds are disgusting. It's the way they treat you that's disgusting."

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"Is there some reason you haven't emailed our families ma'am."

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She has to look that up. "They give new worlds instructions on how everyone can contact them securely. Supposedly no one has been taking them up on that, and email is nowhere near as secure as that. Plus we don't have the addresses or a way to get them without combing through people's personal information. If you have addresses and know a secure format you've got internet on those datapads."

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Kvina sloooooowly reaches for the datapad.

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She smiles.

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Touches it, pauses.

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Someone else has a question and she bustles over to answer it.

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...Kvina attempts to figure out the thing. Eventually the other red does too.

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They can read it fine, for whatever reason. The interface takes some figuring out but here is the local internet and a tutorial on galactic internet.

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She figures out how to send emails and does that.

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Some people leave the resurrection center. Some accept visitors and family members come in to hug them. "This world has a very low death rate," says their liaison. "And we negotiated really aggressively for extra resurrections and we get almost everyone who dies unwillingly."

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"What is it you want with us exactly...?"

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"...to be happy? Whatever that means for you - obviously I bet the government wants a way to safely talk to reds like anything, but you have no more obligation to be an activist than the rest of us."

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"...I don't understand why you didn't email them."

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"...we would need to know the email addresses and they don't talk to us even that much."

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"There are the ones for work orders and the social workers have some."

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"The social workers haven't, uh, struck us as trustworthy or a good source. And governments could probably read them so people are really worried it'd be too dangerous for the reds to answer."

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"...the thing they tried instead was going into our neighborhood."

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"Oh, they got arrested for that. But it's really not at all obvious to aliens that monitored online communications via the form for work orders is the best way to meet you. It's, uh, really really really not how we would generally make contact. If you recommend it I'm sure they'll listen, but..."

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"It's better than going into the neighborhood."

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"They know that. Like I said, they got arrested for that. But, uh, if there were something the government couldn't read I bet they would be excited about that."

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"We don't really have anything like that."

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"...figures. Okay. If you'd like I'll tell them that emails are better than any other way."

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"If you have ways they can write back that aren't email you can say that."

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"I think they did say that, on the news. ...maybe Rivik censored it."

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"...if you just say things on the news reds won't assume you're talking to us."

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"...oh."

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...shrug.

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"Well. They're really really sorry about bothering your district and investigating everyone responsible and it will never happen again and now you're here."

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"I guess it would be a bad idea to go home."

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"...would it?"

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"...since the government is probably upset now and so on."

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"I don't know how closely they keep track of you, you could maybe get a teleport in. But I think they're pretty upset, yeah."

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"So then I might just die again and you said you have a - limited number of these -"

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"Most years we get everybody back, even if we have to do a bunch of scrambling for it, but it's always close. It would be good to spend spare ones on other people you know who were murdered and would like to come back, but no one's going to tell you not to choose to go home to your family. You could get made indestructible and then go back, but that's really expensive, worse than resurrections."

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"I - don't have much -"

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"There are people who fundraised a lot of money for both of you to get resettled and get anything you might need and not have to worry about work. I don't know if it's enough money for indestructibility or how easy it'd be to raise more but it's definitely enough for anything other than that."

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"I don't understand how this happened."

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"...because you were murdered as a consequence of Vanda Nossëo trying to figure out how to contact you, there was a big internal investigation. That meant that the situation made the news, and - does it happen in Rivik that something horrible happens to someone and it's not very different than other horrible things that happen but for whatever reason this one makes the news everywhere, and so lots of strangers are moved to help..."

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"...not to reds."

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"...well, no species in the universe other than Amentans believes in pollution so to us reds are just people who everyone is horrible to and things like that can happen to reds too."

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Blink.

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"And did, on like twenty planets, we just had the courts side with us faster than anyone else did. This is much much worse than the sort of injustices that usually make the news, see."

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"...what usually makes the news..."

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"...uh, on this planet things like 'grandpa died and will miss his granddaughter's wedding unless we resurrect him by the end of the week' or 'this kid with abusive parents committed suicide and said he didn't want a resurrection until he had a million dollars and a sports car and they weren't allowed on the same continent, how do we make that happen for him...' or pets dying, or homes burning down..."

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"...you resurrect pets?"

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" - no, no, that'd be kind of indefensible when there are people dead on other planets. But we grieve pets, and we keep track so once resurrections are easy we can do it."

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She gets an email back from her son. She looks away to read it.

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Weird locals give them space.

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"My son says the - the green who killed me and the cop who killed my co-worker both vanished and the government is furious."

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"They were arrested for murder. The government's been calling it 'vanished' but they got a notification that arrests would be made and how they would be made and how to visit them in prison and everything, and there's internet in prison, so 'vanished' is dishonest."

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"Oh."

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"If you want you can testify at the sentencing hearing."

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"For the green?"

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"Yes."

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"...how are you going to try her for killing me when I'm alive?"

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"Murder's still illegal even though we have resurrection, and there's not any doubt you were murdered."

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"I don't think it's illegal in Rivik unless you kill enough of us that stuff doesn't get done."

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"When a country won't prosecute murders that happen in connection with alien contact we do it for them. It's been the law for decades, it's mildly controversial in some cases but not in this one."

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"...where is it controversial?"

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"If the aliens just don't prosecute crime in general because they're anarchists or something, some people feel like it's unfair to - impose government in a context where people fundamentally don't even have the concept that any government could ever be legitimate. It doesn't matter that murderers mostly don't think the specific court trying them is legitimate, that's just a fact about how people tend to feel about getting in trouble for things that had social approval locally, but some people feel like it matters if they've just never encountered the idea that there could be a body who punishes people for harming others."

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"Are there a lot of anarchist aliens?"

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"There are trillions and trillions of aliens. There aren't a lot percentage-wise but it comes up every few years and is, like I said, mildly controversial. But Rivikni murderers who just refuse to accept that their victims are people? That is literally exactly what a justice system is for, putting unrepentant murderers somewhere where they can't hurt anyone else."

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"Oh."

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"You don't have to agree about that. If you want to testify that they should get a shorter sentence - or a longer one - the courts take that into account."

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"...I never really thought about it. It was never going to come up."

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Nod. "The normal murder sentence if they're not sorry and there aren't extenuating circumstances is ten Amentan years."

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"Okay."

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"There's a hotel right near here that hosts newly resurrected people for free for a month, if you want to stay there a while and read about things."

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"I won't know where to start."

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"There are also lots of journalists who want to interview you, if you want that."

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"- because I'm on the news like a dead pet?"

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"...because everything we've heard about the way Rivik treats reds is really upsetting and confusing and people are outraged and want to know what they can do to fix it, yeah."

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"I guess I could be interviewed."

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"Should I let the highest bidder in or do you want to choose some other way?"

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"Bidder?"

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"There are lots of people who want to interview you. The usual way to pick would be to pick whoever is offering you the most money for an interview, but you could go with whoever has the most readers or someone who's from a minority group that was enslaved before alien contact or something like that."

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"...highest bidder is fine."

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"Okay."

 

Journalist comes in a little later! Journalist has hair that's just a little too brown to look yellow. 

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Kvina folds her hands and looks at her knees and waits.

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" - hi. I'm Eketa Naari with the National Evening Post. Thanks so much for agreeing to talk with us!"

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"You're welcome ma'am."

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"I've got questions from my readers on every conceivable topic, do you have something in mind you'd like to start with?"

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"- no not really."

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Journalist wants to know about her family and whether she's worried for them and how she feels about calls to go get every red out of Rivik right now!

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She has a brother and her mom's still alive and she has two kids and three grandkids and one great-grandkid. They said they haven't had heat come down on them in particular over her but everything is very tense right now. She doesn't know what they would do with all the reds in Rivik.

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It sounds like contact was mishandled! Is she angry about that? How does she think they should have handled the situation? What would be a good environment for all the reds from Rivik?

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She's kind of confused about their contact procedures but it hadn't occurred to her to be angry. She thinks they should have emailed people. That's an awfully open-ended question.

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Like, do they want to live in a direct democracy or a representative democracy or a place with magically enforced ground rules and no other laws at all, do they want to live with other Amentans who aren't terrible - are there other Amentans who aren't terrible? - or with other species, if they want to live with other species do they have an opinion about which, do they want to live somewhere with a universal basic income or somewhere which successfully petitioned not to do that, warm or cold, urban or rural...

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She's pretty sure most clean Amentans hate reds or don't think about them at all. She doesn't know much about any other species. Rivik is warm so she's used to that. She's never heard of a universal basic income. Rural would be... different. They've never voted before and she doesn't know what kinds of voting are best.

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Universal basic income is when the government gives everybody money every month no matter what. It's popular.

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Won't the government run out of money doing that?

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It's usually funded out of taxes or with support from Vanda Nossëo, which has absurd amounts of money because of selling planets and resurrections and immortality and miscellaneous other magical things. Lots of places find that they can afford it just off the savings from not having a standing army anymore and having healthcare cheaper because of magic.

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Kvina didn't do very well in math but she doesn't understand how you can give everyone money for free and then pay for that out of taxes.

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You mostly tax rich people who are earning a lot more money than they're getting for free.

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Because they're singers or whatever?

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...yeah, or own a big company or a lot of land or a lot of investments, or they're a teleporter or healer or telekinetic and get outrageous pay for their in-demand skills.

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They don't just sit around taking the free money?

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Some people do that but lots of people like to do things. ...also the free money is not enough money to afford most fancy magic stuff or to afford to travel all the time to cool remote alien resorts, and on planets that aren't as nice as Casentar it's not even enough for immortality or resurrection.

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Oh. She sees why people would work if they could earn enough money to never die.

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Yeah. There should be enough of that to go around and here there is enough of that to go around but not everywhere.

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Oh.

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"This must all be very overwhelming."

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"Yeah."

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"Are there things you've wanted to do that weren't an option because of Rivik's oppression of reds?"

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"- sure, but - idly, I never thought anything would change -"

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Nod. "What do you think people who are angry about the treatment of reds should do?"

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"...I don't know."

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"...does it depend on something?"

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"I don't know what they can do or what would happen if they did things..."

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"Well, apparently Amentans will be really upset if we let reds go everywhere, but most people don't care how Amentans feel about it."

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"They'll be so angry."

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"They couldn't do anything. Usually it's wrong to do something that's against some society's deeply held beliefs but most societies don't have a deeply held belief that other people getting rights would be the worst thing in history."

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That's not a question so Kvina doesn't answer it.

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"Do you think we should go get all the reds and let them live somewhere that won't mistreat them?"

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"I - guess -?"

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"Is there something better than that we could do?"

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"I don't really know anything about politics. I'm a plumber."

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"You know things about yourself, though, and all this politics is really about what's best for you and people who've been through the same things as you."

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"I don't think the clean castes are ever going to stop hating us. People would miss the planet I think."

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"If the Amentan theologians rule that after being resurrected you are clean, do you think you'd want to go back?"

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"...I don't know how to live like a clean person or do a clean job. And I'm not sure everybody would believe the theologians. And then I couldn't see my family."

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And he wants to know what her plans are now and what being resurrected is like and whether her family believed it.

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She is a little too overwhelmed to have any real plans. It was just like not being stabbed anymore and waking up in a hospital. Her family is pretty confused but there do seem to be all-powerful aliens about so it's not like it came from nowhere.

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How does she feel about her murderer? Is she planning to testify at the sentencing hearing?

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Being murdered was very scary and painful but she doesn't have any feelings very specific to the individual who happened to do it because being murdered is sort of an ambient background risk if you are a red. She's not sure what she'd say.

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Anything she's looking forward to or excited about?

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Not really.

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Eventually he is satisfied and leaves to go write his story.

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She keeps an eye out for it.

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The subheadline is the thing about being murdered being a background risk of being red. It's reported mostly accurately and interspersed with anecdotes about horrifying things that have happened to Rivikni reds and describes her as 'cautious' and 'guarded' and 'skeptical' about the accomplishments of non-evil modern societies. It notes regretfully that she didn't shed much light on the painful debate about whether to go rescue all the reds and leave the evil Amentans to throw their evil tantrums.

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Huh.

She attempts to find out more about the world in which she finds herself so she can figure out what's next.

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The local species is humans. They're like Amentans but don't live as long or want children as much. Their planet is in a dimensional neighborhood where a special technology called morph exists. It lets you turn into anything else with sufficiently similar biology; practically all carbon-based life with a central nervous system is similar enough biology. If you stay for more than two hours you have to touch another box to turn back, but the boxes are everywhere. Accordingly no one ages, and morph cures injuries and illness so they don't have much of those either; even before contact they were a stable peaceful rich post-industrial society and they qualified immediately for Vanda Nossëo membership and lobbied aggressively to get enough resurrections to cover their whole populace. In exchange Vanda Nossëo got them to agree to accept all immigrants from anywhere in the universe with a five-year path to citizenship. The high rate of immigration has put a strain on the enough-resurrections-for-everybody thing and they currently outlaw extreme sports and harshly punish irresponsibility like impaired driving. There's a universal basic income. They're in a Vanda Nossëo voting bloc that has passionate public positions about issues she has no context on (and even on the issue that she has context on, they are confusing; they are apparently of the opinion that Amenta should be dragged to Edda-range and pollution rendered unreal by the Aether.)

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She tries to figure out who she should write to about morph maybe solving it.

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The newspapers? The local Vanda Nossëo embassy? The online forums devoted to digging up Amentan atrocities and being mad about them?

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...second thing.

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There's an email and a conjuration label listed.

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She emails.

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She gets a reply five minutes later. 

Hello! Thank you so much for bringing this to our attention. We would normally forward something like this to the teams working in Amenta so they could talk with everybody there about whether they'd find that satisfactory. Do you think that's a good approach in this case? Do you have other recommendations, or know anyone who we should email to ask for other recommendations?

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I don't know anything about the teams
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There's one in every country. Their job is to liaison with the local government and with the local population, follow up on problems, make sure our priorities and concerns and actions are getting communicated clearly and promptly, and be accessible if anyone wants to bring something to our attention. 

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OK I don't really know anything I just thought morph might work
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Thanks so much for telling us. We might follow up with you if we have questions; is that okay?

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I might not know the answers
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"I know we integrate literal actual slaveowners but the more sense you get of what they did to these people -"

      "They'll be okay. Maybe in ten years a bunch of them will work for us and be really good at it because they can empathize better."

"Buncha the Elves have been horribly tortured."

     "I think it's different. They never thought everybody in the entire universe would commend Melkor for having so effectively kept them out of the general population."

 

No worries, ma'am. Thanks for your time!

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She debates saying you're welcome for an hour and a half before doing it.

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"So," says the team in Orvara, "I know there's still debate ongoing about resurrections but there's something else we wanted to run by you."

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"Mmmyes?" asks a theologian.

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"There's a technology that stores someone's body in a pocket dimension, assembles a new one from completely random atoms from a vast near-infinite plane of them, and lets them remotely pilot the new body. New body is clean, right?"

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"Assuming the source plane is clean and the piloting method does not make contact of any sort."

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"I can get you details."

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"Any little thing might matter, please do be thorough."

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"Of course. The engineers who invented it might be willing to come over and talk if you can't be confident from the papers."

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"Perhaps that will prove necessary."

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"We'll look forward to hearing your thoughts."

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The theologian nods.

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"I know you want your work to be insulated as much as possible from political concerns, but, ah, we're putting a lot of effort at this point into preventing well-intentioned parties from coming to Amenta to rescue the reds. A consensus on an acceptable method would do a lot to reduce the inclination of some parties to force our hand."

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"Surely you can contain them somewhere dispensable in the interim? You've said you have ways to replace their labor."

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"If it were definitely an interim while a process was approved, that'd be one thing, but if it was potentially indefinite if everything got rejected...and some people think that the reds might cooperate more with emigration if they can see that the other reds who've emigrated have been given clean bodies and citizenship and rights. If they just know they're getting shuffled off into quarantine somewhere, they're going to wonder why we'd ever bother getting them out, and then they'll probably resist deportation."

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"Can they stop or even inconvenience you?"

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"We can't move them all simultaneously when some of them are out at work, and it sounds like being rounded up is the sort of thing that has historically provoked riots. There's also not much political will for forcible deportation of innocents, and it's not even clear it'd be legal."

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"Well. We're not judges you can bribe, you know."

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"I understand completely why you'd want the theological question insulated as much as possible from the politics."

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"It does sound like a very promising avenue."

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"Oh good."

 

They leave it at that.

 

The Anitami team emails the reds' provided work order emails to invite them to make suggestions about how the aliens can help them.

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This gets substantially better response rates than advertising themselves on the news.

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Maybe no one actually reads the reds' emails even though it seems like the kind of thing an evil repressive government would do.

"They might just dislike them too much to think about how optimally to oppress them."

     "...yay?"

"I mean, I'll take it."

 

 

The two Rivikni murder cases go to trial. Since the victims weren't especially interested in testifying and the fact they're up and about could cause pollution hysteria it is not widely advertised.

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The green wants a lawyer who does not have bizarre alien morality, as she feels unable to trust people with bizarre alien morality and the lawyer is supposed to be trusted to be on her side.

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...there aren't lawyers who've passed the relevant law exam and who believe that reds aren't people. In fact, believing something like that would probably disqualify you from passing the law exam because people who believe things like that should not be allowed anywhere near a position of power.

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Then they aren't taking their idea that she's got a right to counsel that is on her side in their "adversarial 'justice system'" particularly seriously.

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She has a right to counsel that is accredited in the relevant legal system and entirely committed to providing her with the best defense permitted by law. She does not have a right to counsel who agree with her about the ethics of her conduct; the adversarial justice system was reinvented sixteen hundred times and in none of them has that been how it works. 

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She is not saying they have to agree with her about the ethics of her conduct, she is saying she can't trust them and therefore the system can't work like they want it to if they are a morally incomprehensible alien instead of a person with normal amounts of difference in perspective, because morally incomprehensible aliens may take anything she says at random about anything whatsoever, and decide it's an atrocity and sabotage her case or hurt her or her daughter over it or something.

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She is allowed to request a different lawyer, but the different lawyer will be appointed from the pool of lawyers who passed the relevant exam. 

"Uh," says her social worker, "we've explained that we are exactly like you except for believing that reds are people. Do you have trouble understanding the idea 'like us except for believing that reds are people', or do you not believe it?"

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"I don't believe it," she says. "I had a roommate who studied something she called 'plant cognition' and this is weirder."

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"I see."

 

The court dutifully presents her with a selection of accredited attorneys. If she picks one that attorney can represent her in place of her current one.

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She grits her teeth and talks to them, trying to find one who makes any fucking sense.

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"Look," one says, "our legal system doesn't use the concept of 'personhood' the same way I imagine Amentans do, having only one species. We use it to mean anything that is intelligent enough to communicate preferences and that reads to a subtle artist as having internal experiences. Reds are intelligent enough to communicate preferences and they read to a subtle artist as having internal experiences, therefore killing reds is prosecuted as murder. If you want, you could call the thing our courts care about 'consciousness' and the thing you care about 'personhood'. I believe you that reds do not possess personhood as you understand it, but they possess the traits which make it illegal to kill them, and therefore it is illegal to kill them."

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"It's not illegal in Rivik. We didn't even hold a vote, let alone join your thing."

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"Our law allows prosecuting the killing of beings that relevantly register if it occurs in connection with our activities, anywhere in the multiverse."

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"Are you even going to try to get me let off, like it says you're supposed to -"

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"My job is to give you the best legal defense possible. When we represent someone who is unambiguously guilty of the crime they are accused of, that involves filing procedural complaints and trying to affect sentencing. It's very common in my line of work to be in a position where trying to get the defendant off doesn't make any sense but there's a lot that can be done to reduce their sentence."

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She tries more lawyers.

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All of them explain to her that typically when you stab somebody to death with a sword your lawyer does not try to get you off, but tries to make sure all your rights are respected and negotiate for a shorter sentence.

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"Doesn't it matter at all that it's not illegal in Rivik? Everybody's heard 'you have to read up on the law' but nobody has heard 'you have to read up on alien law when interacting with non-aliens in case they care if you overwater your herbs or something'."

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"Rape, murder, and torture."

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"Do you arrest soldiers and executioners and tell them they commited murder? People used to spank children, when you land on those people do you kidnap every parent around - of course you do, you don't care if the kids have anyone looking after them at all -"

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"If a war starts as a consequence of our arrival, we do arrest the responsible parties. The consensus is that empirically the best way to reduce child abuse is media campaigns and that arrests cause more harm than good, but if the evidence shook out the other way I imagine that policymakers would give it serious consideration."

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"Are you saying you think you will somehow reduce incidence of people 'murdering' reds by abducting me? That's insane. Everyone's going to blame the red."

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"...for being murdered?"

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"For not showing up and doing its job like it was supposed to."

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"I do not think I can ethically represent you."

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She moves on to the next one.

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"...look, you seem to be imagining that 'the law is not fair' is a legal defense. It's a reason to change the law, maybe, but it's not at all a legal defense. You will not win if we try a legal defense of 'yes, we broke the law, but it's an unfair law'."

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"My point is it wasn't advertised. You can't make things up and expect people to read your minds."

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"I understand why you'd feel strongly that the law should be changed."

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...sigh. "So given that the law is currently this stupid thing what can I do."

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"...there are a couple options. I want to discuss one of them with you but I'm concerned it might damage rapport, it relates to the question of whether it was wrong to kill the victim."

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"I'm clearly going to have to settle for rapport that doesn't revolve around my lawyer not being an alien."

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"Is there any observable thing, including magic things like mindreading, that would, if you observed it, cause you to consider it likely that reds are - in a category where killing them is a bad thing to do?"

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"I mean, you can't kill a lot of them, they're still necessary..."

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"I mean in its own right."

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"...maybe something I haven't thought of? I mean, I don't know what mindreading is like - I'm not claiming reds don't perform cognition, some of them write repulsive little blogs -"

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"Yeah, I'm not sure what exactly it is that you do believe or I'd be able to make more specific suggestions. Do you think that reds don't have experiences? Like, they're generating thoughts but there's no consciousness?"

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"I'm agnostic about that."

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"I see. Often I recommend that clients do something to persuade the court that they wouldn't act similarly again; can you think of anything that might work for that?"

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"Apparently it will cause aliens to abduct me."

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"The court will observe that if Rivik were to, say, start issuing five-day prison sentences for the murder of reds our law would not permit further arrests."

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"...and?"

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"...and if that's the only reason you might not kill reds you'd go back to killing reds."

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"I never killed one before, it isn't as though it was fun or anything. Look, I'm an actress, I can play a bit, but I don't know how to do improv as whatever kind of pretend moral reasoner you want me to be."

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"That's why I was thinking if there were a way for you to actually sincerely conclude that there's a chance it's morally wrong to murder reds that would work better than suggesting you pretend."

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"This situation is so perverse."

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"I'm sorry."

 

 

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"I have no way to believe you."

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"I don't think you should testify at trial. "I don't agree that I did anything wrong and I'll do it again if I could get away with it and it came up" is about the worst possible thing to tell a court, sentencing-wise."

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"I can do a bit. I just don't know what bit to do."

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"...okay. Imagine that your species found aliens. And the aliens were nice enough except they were convinced that homosexuality was evil and that it was fine to murder someone if you found out they were gay. And imagine that someone went to Rivik and murdered a gay person and were facing a Rivikni court. That is how the court sees you. That is the bit to play."

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"...I didn't leave Rivik."

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"I'm not saying it's legally analogous, I'm trying to give you a sense of how the court sees you. I didn't want to get bogged down in how Rivik would end up administering the aliens but if you'd rather, we can imagine they claimed the territory to colonize and started enforcing the law in that area because the locals didn't have population control and that is where this happened."

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She sighs. "Fine. I can probably do that."

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"Thank you."

 

It goes to court. He has her testify.

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She looks very mouselike.

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Can she describe the circumstances around the death?

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"I had a hard day at rehearsal and had just picked up my daughter from school and brought her home and found that the plumber was still working hours after I'd expected them to have been and gone, and wouldn't be done for at least an hour. I have a condition where I can't be without access to a bathroom for very long. The neighbors didn't answer their doors and I had to go somewhere else on very short notice and the only place I could think of was my parents' apartment, where I would normally never go especially not with my daughter for - reasons I would rather not discuss, they're - dangerous and I was expecting to have to keep an eye on her constantly to make sure she was all right, just because the toilet wasn't fixed yet. I was very frightened for her and more stressed than I can remember ever being - and my character in the play has a sword, and I brought it home to practice - it's sharp to cut a couple props. I wasn't thinking very clearly and I attacked the plumber."

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"Did you call for medical help when you realized you'd seriously injured her?"

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"No. There isn't any kind of summonable medical help that will treat reds."

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"What did you do?"

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"I texted my building's red services contact address and hurried my daughter onto the train and went to my parent's house and watched her less trips to the bathroom until I was arrested."

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"What did you text the services address?"

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"I told them the plumber was probably dead and where to find them."

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The prosecution introduces for the record the contents of the message.

"Plumber was HOURS late. I stabbed it. Get it out and get its job done."

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"The 'where' part is folded in to the sender since the building services person would know my apartment number."

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"Was your daughter present to witness you stabbing the plumber to death?"

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"She was in the apartment but not looking into the bathroom at the time."

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"Were you worried she might be frightened to hear her mother stabbing somebody to death in the next room?"

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"No."

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"Did you notice whether she was in fact distressed to hear her mother stab somebody to death in the next room?"

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"She seemed confused because this wasn't going to result in the toilet being fixed faster but not distressed, no."

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"Is it possible that she would have hidden her distress because she was in the custody of someone who had just stabbed a innocent person to death for annoying her?"

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"No. I don't think there is any risk she would think I would hurt her because of this."

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"Why is that?"

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"She's my daughter and not a red."

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"If you learned your daughter were technically red because of some kind of mix-up on her father's side, would you feel free to murder her?"

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"- I, no -"

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"Would you say it's fair to say you have been raising your daughter to believe murdering reds is right and reasonable?"

Her lawyer objects to this line of questioning. The judge agrees. 

"How many times did you stab the victim with a sword?"

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"Twice."

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"Did you stop because she was dead, or for some other reason?"

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"It's the only sword maneuver I know. It's from the play."

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The lawyer doesn't have more questions. 

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Now what?

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"There'll be a verdict - that part's not in very much doubt - and then a sentencing hearing, where you convince the court you're not likely to do it again. I think we should recommend anger management classes and an apology to the victim, if that's acceptable to you -"

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"...but it died."

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"...usually if they ask a rapist to write an apology or whatever the victim doesn't actually want it, it's for the - exercise in empathy."

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"How do they make sure it's to their standards?"

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"The court reviews it when they're considering early parole. Along with a whole package of things - conduct in prison, plans for release, efforts that have been made to make restitution - you could give her children some money for the funeral or something - both their parents dead -"

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"I don't have a lot left after the emergency babysitter unless I'm going to be compensated for the arrest leaving my child in an unsafe environment or something."

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" - I am almost certain I can swing that, let me get back to you tomorrow. And then maybe find out their names and say you would never wish the grief of losing a parent on anyone or something."

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"...I have no idea how to find out their names."

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"All right, I'll look that up too."

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"Thanks."

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She is convicted of murder. Lawyer files appropriate requests. She gets a lot more than the babysitting expenses in support for childcare during arrest.

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She apportions some of it - about a year of a red plumber's salary - to be distributed among the children of the victim, and writes a little note that is only about 1/3 plagiarized from a soliloquy.

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Her lawyer recommends she testify in the sentencing hearing that she will take anger management classes and do her utmost never to be around a red again and that if she were around one she wouldn't attack the red even if the red were late.

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She can testify that. She can pretend not to be simmering with resentment.

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There aren't thoughtcrimes. 

 

She gets three Amentan years with a review for parole after one if she completes the anger management class and the restitution and writes an apology that reflects full understanding of the impact of her actions and reads the heartwrenching recently published biography of her victim.

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She signs up for the class and figures out how to send the restitution and polishes the apology and is bewildered about the biography but she'll read it.

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And she can request transfer between the various prisons of the Vanda Nossëo consortium with a simple web form. They have different architecture and different numbers of people and some of them have maternity facilities and one of them is literally an entire otherwise-uninhabited planet.

 

The anger management class teaches calming strategies and asks people to brainstorm about times they've acted angrily and what they wish they'd done instead. Most of her classmates are in for domestic abuse. One stabbed his wife and seems to think he and she have a lot in common. 


The biography is very well-researched; it traces a red life in Rivik in lots of detail and writes about it just as if it were a person experiencing all that.

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She may as well be choosy about prisons.

She doesn't think she has anything in common with the guy who stabbed his wife.

It's an interesting sort of speculative work. She reads the whole thing.

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They both stabbed a woman for being late! They're pretty much twins!

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...wait, how does gender enter into this?

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...stabbing a guy is just a different kind of thing than stabbing a bitch.

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She hadn't even registered what variety of red she stabbed and only knows it now because people keep mentioning it in languages which have gendered pronouns for some reason.

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Her language doesn't?

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"I don't think any Amentan languages do."

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Weird. Well. The dude isn't sorry he stabbed his wife because otherwise he might've ended up on the hook for child support.

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He has a child?

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...well, not now. What he meant by 'she was late' is 'she was maybe preggo'.

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...she's confused.

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"So I'm hitched to this twat but she doesn't work, living off benefits, picked up smoking some shit she got off some other dude she's probably banging, and she's whiny as fuck and I'd leave but I take a hell of a paycut - my work did dependents benefits - so I'm figuring out how to make that work and then she says she's maybe pregnant and Imma be stuck paying for the kid for fucking forever so I stabbed her in the stomach. I didn't actually want her to die, just to lose the baby."

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She's unimpressed.

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"Better reason than you had, sweetheart."

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"I don't think so."

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"If you hadn't stabbed the plumber would you have been on the hook for eighteen years of child support payments?"

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"I don't really want to talk to you."

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"Wow, we've got ourselves a judgmental murderer. I'll tell you this, if she'd had the fucking kid I wouldn't have killed her with a kid right there."

 

Social worker tells him to stop talking to her. He stops.

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The green's kid visits her on a daily basis. She has a teleporter assigned to her to assist visitation; she teleports to see her mom after school and teleports to stay with her dad in his university accommodation in Tapa at night and teleports to school again in the morning. She is not afraid of her mother.

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The social workers are attentive to that and do not leave them alone behind closed doors but otherwise let them be.

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The not being left alone thing is annoying.

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The courts do not grant murderers unsupervised visitation in prison.

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Does it help if the kid asks?

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They explain very kindly that they're glad she has such a good relationship with her mother but her mother did something very bad and she is in jail for it and part of jail is that there are people around to keep an eye on you.

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"What if I bring my dad?"

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That counts as supervised visitation, yes.

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Sometimes she brings her dad. He sits in the corner and grades papers.

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On Afterlife the oranges' neighbors persist in bringing regular home-cooked goodies for several months.

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The oranges appreciate that!

Vae is pretty sure she is pregnant after they have been there for two weeks. Lynt glowingly informs every Elf they meet that they are going to have a baby.

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Elves are so pleased for them!!! When it gets closer to time they will bring baby toys and help them build a crib if they'd like help with that!

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That would be so nice of them! The Elves are great.

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It is sort of customary in this community to make a pilgrimage up to Vána's when planning a baby to get her blessings. People will go with them if they'd like to do that; it's a few days' walking.

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A few days walking sounds like a lot even with Vae's limp fixed...

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...you could floatcar it? Elves like camping but if Amentans don't it'd be like an hour by floatcar.

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They've never been camping before. It's not very common on Amenta.

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Well the best time to first try it is probably not while pregnant. Someone offers the loan of their floatcar.

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...they also don't know how to drive one of those.

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It has pretty good autopilot but fair enough. They could go with? Or the Amentans don't have to do this at all, Vána would not be offended.

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What does Vána do exactly? They were dropped on this planet with pretty minimal explanation.

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She is the Vala of eternal youth and of springtime!

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...really, really minimal explanation.

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...oh.

 

Uh.

 

This world has gods. One of them is Eru, and he is omnipotent but does not do things very often; then there are the Valar and Maiar, which are immortal and very unlike ordinary people and have extraordinary divine powers but not anything near omnipotence. A long time ago Eru added Elves to the world. Not on this world, on Endorë, the place silly young Andúnar who brought them here lives. And one of the Valar decided to toy with Elves, and so he went about terrorizing and capturing and torturing them - and, uh, uploading them to torture on a server farm he filled a continent with - 

"He was really terrible."

      "Doesn't make it -"

"I know."

      "He's dead now. They're not conventionally killable but that dimension coalition can do all kinds of things. He'd - stopped - even before that - I'm getting ahead of myself -"

"So the Valar found out and went and stopped and imprisoned him, and they asked the Elves if we wanted to move to Valinor, which they had made themselves to be a perfect planet - perfectly beautiful and peaceful and everything. Some Elves didn't want to, but some did, and we came."

      "It's nearly three Years at close to lightspeed and we didn't have faster than light travel back then. You couldn't really go back."

"And they guided us and taught us and blessed us."

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"What exactly does it mean to be blessed -?"

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"They taught us to do the chip blessings, which aren't magic, they sometimes maybe do real magic - good luck, protection from danger -"

      " - the Doom -"

" - yeah - but small things, things that would be hard to notice except in the aggregate. You can specifically ask them for more if you have something specific in mind."

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"And after three hundred Years they paroled Melkor. He'd been saying he was really sorry and - well, we didn't want to imprison him for all eternity..."

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"...why not?"

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"...it seemed really harsh. Three hundred Years is a really long time. Eternity is, well, forever."

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"...okay."

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"...well, we were wrong. He went, uh, right back to it. And the King - uh -"

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...oranges blink politely.

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" - Melkor said that he'd stop all the torture and killing forever if they destroyed Valinor, which they had the means to do and he didn't."

      "He could bind himself to that promise, that's a thing Valar can do."

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"...how do they do that?"

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"...magic? We do it too but it's chip-loaded for us."

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"Oh."

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"Anyway. The King said to do it."

     "Which he can decide. If he sees fit."

"That's kind of beside the point."

     "They resurrected us as soon as they had somewhere to put us."

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"That's here?"

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"Yeah. That's why it's called Afterlife - it's the same, they made a copy of everything - except the animals - and people lost pregnancies -"

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Oranges frown sympathetically.

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"And the war stopped and Melkor went off to, I don't know, kick cats or something, and they worked on it for a while and got a way to contact other dimensions and found someone who could kill him and now he's dead. And I guess it was worth it."

      "But it wasn't okay."

"Yeah."

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"I'm sorry that happened to you," says Lynt.

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"The Valar were dead longer than us. They weren't expecting to ever have a way to resurrect them. And they were worried the Valar would be mad. But then eventually they sorted it."

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"Were the Valar mad?"

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"...I think the Valar might have gotten resurrected conditional on not hassling the person who did it. Which is fine, we don't have anything against the person who did it, the King said to."

    "They haven't acted mad."

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"Are we likely to - meet this king, or anything -"

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" - uh, no, the people who fought the war stayed in Endorë. His brother is King here now. It wouldn't be good for him to be our King now, considering."

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"Oh."

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"You have to trust a King."

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"...I think that's different on Amenta."

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"Oh?"

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"People... don't feel that way about blues."

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"...I think a King who people didn't trust would have a very hard time ruling. People wouldn't bring things to his attention that he needed to know."

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"Yvalta doesn't have a King. It has Houses with heads of household."

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"...I don't think that would change the problems with not trusting them?"

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"And they're the ones who can give out child permissions."

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"I guess that's a reason people would do what they say even without trusting them, but you still have the problem where, say, if something is causing people hurt, they wouldn't mention it to their House head because they wouldn't trust that he'd fix it."

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"It depends on the head of household. The good ones will reward people who draw positive attention to themselves even if it's by warning them about a problem."

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"I guess that would - work - but it seems very - it's like if parents got their children to listen to them by only feeding them when they did."

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"...I don't think the blues regard their subjects as their children," says Vae.

"The conventional wisdom is that they have to limit the population somehow and - that's a way," murmurs Lynt, wrapping his arms around his wife.

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"I don't mean it's exactly the same I mean - part of the problem with it is that it's horribly coercive in its own right but the other part of the problem is that you could have a relationship built on love and trust and instead you're extracting a... horrible parody."

       "And I don't see why you don't just let everybody have two. Being a way doesn't make it good enough - killing everybody is a way but it's an evil way -"

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"The Voans let everyone have two," says Lynt. "And some other people."

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The Elves think this is very sensible.

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The oranges do not argue with them.

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So do they want to get the blessings, magical or just goodwill-ish, of Vána?

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If it's the done thing!

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It is!!

 

Floatcar takes them through absurdly pretty countryside to an absurdly pretty valley of blooming flowers and singing birds. In Vána's domain it is always spring; to Elves this has no negative connotations.

Vána is dancing. 

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The oranges do not know the etiquette.

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Elves do! They get her attention and bow.

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Oranges bow too.

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Vána does something weird to the air pressure when she gets close but she is so - flowers spring up around them - delighted to meet them and blesses them and their baby and wishes them eternal happiness in Valinor. ...do they want to stop aging, that will make the eternal happiness moreso.

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Will that just mean they continue being pre-age-twenty amounts of babywanting and fertile forever?

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...yes?

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Can they maybe be twenty later, if they ever somehow decide they have enough kids?

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Sure, she could let them start aging again and then stop them again at twenty-one equivalent.

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Okay. They would like to stop aging for now.

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Done!

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They are thankful!

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She is delighted! Elves are delighted! Everybody sings.

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The oranges don't sing very well and do not attempt to participate.

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No one minds. Vána asks if they like it here.

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"Yes."

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She is so glad!

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They are glad she is glad!

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On Peka's pillow the day after the aliens arrive there is a note. The note says "I'd hoped they'd cut back their troops faster. I'm sorry. If by the end of the week they're still keeping you I'll arrange something so you can go home to your daughter." 

With the note there is a little bead. When you squeeze it, it plays music. It is stunningly pretty music.

 

The third song makes it start snowing inside the tent.

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...wow.

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The fourth song makes her go invisible.

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What a nifty doodad.

Squeeze.

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Jumping like there's much less gravity, though she might not be able to test that too well in the tent.

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She can get the idea! She tests songs until she is all out.

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There are twelve. The remaining ones make it rain flower petals, make you warm, do healing, reverse fatigue, grow plants, make someone unnoticeable, and make everything taste better.

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She does not have the inventiveness or witnesses to identify all these functions but she is real intrigued by the obvious ones. She ties the bead into her hair.

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Vanda Nossëo would like to arrange and perhaps host some kind of theological conference at which consensus can be reached about proposed reds-handling methods, how should they go about that?

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Tapa would be delighted to host. Tapa likes holding conferences.

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Great! Maybe now that they have their land they could unjam and invite Voans.

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A short term peace treaty to be replaced when the parties are at more liberty to deliberate is hashed out and then sure.

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He bothers Elendil about specialized teleport rings.

 

Peka gets another bead and another note. The note says "I think your hair is a very pretty shade of pink" and the bead looks just like the previous one.

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What does this bead do??

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...apparently it puts her in Katin's room.

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Oh wow.

She scoops up her Katin and holds her for a long time before she checks if it works the other way.

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Yep.

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And continues working?

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Yep!

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Baaaaaaaby.

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Conference-goers conference-go.

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A teleporter writes the Calado blue who owns one specific road and requests permission to drive a teleporting bus up and down that road and pick up passengers and ferry them back and forth from Elendil.

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They are welcome to do that according to this toll schedule.

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Deal. 

 

There is a bus. It says on the side that it ferries you to the nearest alien spaceport. It has an alien driver; he has black hair.

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Some risk-seeking types go there.

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The bus, as promised, teleports to Elendil's spaceport.

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Wow. Calador visitors go exploring!

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Shuttles to lots and lots of other places!! Fancy cities with acceptable-to-Elves architecture. There's a magic university. The sign says 'Magic University'. There are antelope-people. 

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They can't read the sign that says Magic University but they have a wonderful time gawking anyway.

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They might notice people doing magic! Some people do magic. If they wait long enough there are Andalites and octopus-people in a floating bubble of water and things that are vaguely like lions and tigers and might or might not be people also.

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They take so many pictures.

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Eventually their bus is back to pick them up.

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They go; they don't know how to buy lunch there.

They tell their friends.

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Does the bus guy have more customers?

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Yes!

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He informs his customers that people can buy the ability to speak the local language. There's an office up thereaway.

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Oooooh. Some of them leave off staring at aliens to go check that out.

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Office doesn't know what to do with Calador money but is set up to take tap, Tapa's got a shuttleport now. 

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They don't have everything service here to change money, right?

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They do not, frustratingly.

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The next busful have some tap.

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Then the next busful can have fluency in all languages. (The place is giving it out at a discount because these poor people live in Calado.)

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They go exploring with better ability to understand their surroundings!

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Magic University! Shuttleport with service every three minutes to Vanda Nossëo and other places they haven't heard of!

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Some of them wander off to explore farther. Some of them check out the university.

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Accepting applications for enrollment in the next session, beginning in five weeks. Public demos on Fridays. Here's how to report concerns about abuse of magic.

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What constitutes abuse of magic? Is there tuition? When is Friday?

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Friday turns out to be in two days. Doing experimental magic in places that are not designated for that is not allowed; doing any kind of mind-altering magic except with a licensed subtle artist and appropriate consent all around is not allowed; doing these other kinds of potentially dangerous thing are not allowed. There is tuition. Sometimes it is waived.

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What's a subtle artist? When is tuition waived?

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Subtle artists have a different kind of magic that has lots of mental effects. If they are licensed as therapists they can use it consensually to fix phobias and stuff. The country this person is originally from used them for interrogation too but that's not allowed here. Tuition gets waived if you got screened and approved for a job you need magic for or are part of various pilot programs or know somebody who knows somebody.

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What kinds of jobs and programs?

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Uh, making magic items is the big one, there are never enough people who want to spend all day making magic items. Or doing original magic research, or getting good at healing to be stationed on an Elendil planet as a paramedic or at combat magic to safely break up magic fights...

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So this is a pretty multicaste thing?

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...hmmm?

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Oh, they're from a planet with a caste system.

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Oh, there's a country on this person's world of origin that did that. His country didn't. It sounds annoying.

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Everybody on their whole planet does it so they're used to it. Healing would be orange and combat would be grey and so on though.

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Well as long as they don't go about imposing it on other people they can check the job listings and see if an employer will sponsor them for free tuition. Magic is useful.

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They peer at listings.

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Magic usually can't be picked up at all if you have a hard time doing accounting or scanning a scientific paper to figure out how misleading the news coverage is.

There are lots of listings to make magic artifacts on a commission basis; the ad lists the price they retail at and the cut the company takes until it has been reimbursed for tuition and then some; they take a week or so to make each for people just starting out.

People interested in magic research jobs are encouraged to take the standard classes and impress their teachers a lot and then get a scholarship for higher-level coursework.

There are healing and security jobs. Most of them pay for the lessons in exchange for a cut of your subsequent salary. The security ones require extensive screening.

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Some of these people would like to try it out.

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There are applications! Some of them want you to do a intelligence test that predicts whether you'll be able to pick up magic. 

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Some of them pass and some do not.

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The ones who pass can get sponsored to start at magic school once the new term starts.

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Peka gets a little shimmering handwoven tapestry of Katin and another note. The note says 'I made you and Katin impossible to seriously injure. I actually did that first but it's not easy to test and seemed like it might be hard to believe. The most notable effect if you stay away from stray bullets is that you can go without sleep and food. Tapa would probably be displeased if you used this to go around touching all the things but I don't, personally, mind if you do.'

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...she doesn't go around touching things. She visits her baby when she doesn't need to be at work.

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He queries Rebecca about her favorite foods.

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"Chocolate. And the house elves make these awesome pork medallions but I'm not sure what's on them."

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Does Peka like those too?

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Yes!

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Uncannily good food recommendations! More beads with minor magic music!

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She sings bead songs.

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The magic works that way, too.

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Oooooooh.

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(Army uniform that looks just like hers but is made out of something very expensive and possibly magic, is wonderfully comfortable, and always has a different exotic chocolate in the pocket! Baby toys for Katin, magical and hand-carved and so well-chosen it's as if he asked several other Katins what their favorite baby toys were! Little unexplained potion in a flask!)

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Well heck she'll drink it and see what happens.

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Lets her breastfeed Katin, apparently.

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Eeeee!

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The next time she returns to her tent it is sized and furnished like a upscale studio apartment. It has a hot tub.

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...she gets out and circles the tent. Yep, still a tent on the outside.

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Totally unremarkable and tent-sized!

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She takes a hot bath.

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There is magic foam bubble bath that stays foamy forever and fills the room with singing rainbow bubbles. It is pink. So very pink.

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Giggle.

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How is the theological conference going.

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They think permamorphed reds would be clean as long as they didn't then do red work.

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Great. Is anyone willing to integrate some permamorphed and cleaned reds. (You can only actually morph near Cube but with the latest round of improvements you can leave the neighborhood in morph just fine.)

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Tapa will try it in one city and see how it goes.

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A reporter calls Kvina to ask what she thinks about this.

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"Um. I think it wouldn't fly in Rivik."

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"What do you think should be done for Rivik reds?"

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"Maybe if they're cleaned so they're allowed to go places they could just go somewhere else."

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Casentar sets up a facility where reds can come and get genetic samples to morph with. If Tapa has some volunteers Vanda Nossëo can provide a special shuttle to send them over and a normal shuttle to send them back.

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Tapa volunteers a districtful.

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"It's not a concern now, but for membership it'd be a concern to be volunteering your people for things without a way for them to raise, ah, disability and health concerns, things like that..."

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"...disability and health concerns?"

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" - oh, you know, people who aren't able to get to the shuttles easily because they're housebound or reliant on oxygen or heavily pregnant..."

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"It's really better to do this neighborhood by neighborhood. This one has a nearby neighborhood that can take over in case whatever replacement you had in mind doesn't quite fill the gap. It's an awkward time of year but anyone who can't morph can move into a different one till they're better able."

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"I'll see about arranging medical transport for anybody who is disabled such that that's not an option."

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"Sure."

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Is it Peka's district?

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Nope.

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Vanda Nossëo emails the district to let the reds know that Tapa's going to run a trial of having them morph into clean bodies and then integrate as clean citizens. There'll be shuttles to pick them up from such-and-such location in three days, please let them know about anyone who can't safely get to the shuttles and they'll arrange alternate accommodations. They can send questions about the process here.

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Clean citizens of what caste?

They can all get there.

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He asks Rebecca what caste she'd like to be if she had to be an Amentan caste for some reason.

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"I... guess green for singing?"

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He tells the Tapai reds that they should pick the caste in which they'll be most able to get a job, obviously. He figures Tapa won't be thrilled but better to ask forgiveness than permission.

 

(Peka's tent is bigger. It has a piano.)

 

There are shuttles at the promised location.

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Piano! ...what happens when she has to move the tent.

Reds get onto the shuttle. Some of them have a hard time but they all make it.

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Oh, it doesn't weigh anything more than it did before, and it rolls up fine. Everything is still there when she opened it. One of the containers of bubble bath spilled. 

 

The shuttle drops them off in a shiny facility in Casentar that has pollution areas and non-pollution areas meticulously delineated and lots of journalists waiting on the non-pollution side. Some of the journalists decided it was not worth waiting and are on the pollution side filming. 

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Reds huddle together and go where they are herded.

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They touch one of these boxes, they touch samples for hair color, they can touch themselves and their family to get a new body that's genetically very similar to their current one, they should aim for the age they want to be, they should practice morph awhile until they've got something they're satisfied with, then they can take a decontamination shower and cross through to the other side! Journalists snap pictures.

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Do they have a way to change hair colors?

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Yeah, you morph a blend including your desired hair color! There are volunteers who explain and try to describe how to do it. Some people will probably require some practice to get it.

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What about babies?

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Babies should not morph and pregnant people should not stay in morph.

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Oh.

(Scattered sobbing.)

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...so they should probably set up a hotel in the polluted sector, then, for pregnant people their partners and people with babies to stay until the babies are old enough to morph safely.

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(This doesn't help.)

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"...what's the problem -"

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"My husband already went ahead -"

"My first two kids -"

A lot of people have fetal or pregnant relatives.

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" - right. Okay."

"We could just say we morphed the babies, it's not even a real thing -"

"Someone could leak it though."

"Well, we can accommodate everybody who wants to stay with a baby or pregnant person, if Tapa's not going to fuss about not getting all of them back -"

"They're not, they're not that good at pretending to care."

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"What will we do here -"

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"Stay in the hotel with your kids until they're ready to morph?"

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Sniffling.

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Locals look a bit puzzled. "I'm - sorry?"

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Sad reds.

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"Why did they send people in the experimental batch who couldn't do it?"

"I have no idea. People are checking up on alternatives."

 

"Who would like to go to the hotel?"

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Alarmed reds!

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"...okay, do you have somewhere you'd rather go?"

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Reds start crying again.

One absentmindedly pulls out a spray chalk and sprays a spot on the floor where a tear fell.

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"...can someone maybe hire Kvina to be a consultant."

       "I'm trying to reach her right now."

Kvina gets some urgent calls and messages.

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Um???? She reads the messages.

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Would she like to be a consultant on the morph decontamination thing, which ran into the problem that Tapa shipped them a whole district who do not seem to have consented when they were expecting volunteers and babies can't morph yet.

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...uh.

What kind of consulting do you mean?

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They're terrified and we're not good at convincing them to not be terrified and we can just host them here comfortably until they're ready to morph but they don't want that but they won't say what they prefer.

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How do I get there?

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I'll send a car.

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Kvina awaits a car.

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Car arrives promptly. Car takes her to the pretty morph-decontamination facility.

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Where she steps out to observe miserable Tapai reds.

"Um," she says. "I'm a plumber. I don't actually know what to tell them. What are you trying to tell them?"

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"We're sorry that we weren't anticipating families at this early stage in the process, but there are facilities set up for families - a hotel right near here - where they are welcome to stay until it's safe for their children to morph. If they want something else that's fine, they just have to let us know."

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Kvina wades into the reds.

She wades out.

"Do they have to stay literally inside the hotel or can their kids play outside?"

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"They can go anywhere they want in the area and we can add more stuff to the area if there's stuff they want that isn't accessible here right now."

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"Are you going to run out of budget for hoteling reds, will they need to work, is there internet..."

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"Vanda Nossëo's covering it so no, they don't need to work, don't they get parental leave anyway with the kids this young? Of course there's internet, it's a normal hotel with, like, a maid service and a gym and internet and cable television and room service and everything."

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"...they don't get parental leave. Does the internet hook up to Amenta's here - who are the maids and room service people -"

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"Amenta's got a slow extranet connection but they've got one - they're just the people who worked at that hotel who were okay with morphing for work so the country doesn't get "polluted" -" eyeroll.

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"It might be a good idea to wait until a room asks for them before they go in."

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"I will make sure they know that. Thank you."

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"Is there anything else you need them to know -"

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" - that if there's a better solution we'll do that, we just need to know what it is..."

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"They don't know anything about what you could be doing instead of this. Are there medical facilities in the hotel - for when they have the babies or if they get sick -"

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"Yeah. Magic healers with obstetrics experience and everything."

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"Where are they?"

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"Next to the hotel."

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"How far in which directions can they go?"

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"There are signs up and fences. Says 'must morph at this checkpoint to continue'."

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"Those of them who've already got morph, can they go past that?"

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"If they morph, yeah."

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"And then stay in morph till they're in bounds again? - if you aren't clear it sounds like they have to do whatever the strictest version of what you're saying is or die. You have to be clear both about how strict and the not dying."

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"Yes, if they left the area they'd have to stay in morph until they're back in this area. If they demorph for some reason they are supposed to mark stuff they came into contact with while demorphed. Casentar hasn't had the death penalty for two hundred years, they'd get, like, a warning."

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"How are you going to handle internal criminal issues -"

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"...they're not going to be willing to report crimes to the police, are they."

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"...not really."

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"We'd kind of like them to report crimes to the police."

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"Or..."

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"Or how are we supposed to protect them?"

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"...no, I mean, what is the nonreporting penalty -"

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"...there's a criminal who can't get the services they need to stop hurting people and a victim who doesn't get restitution."

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"So there isn't one?"

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" - I guess."

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"What happens if they do turn people in to you?"

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"We'd investigate and the victims would get support and restitution and people who were found guilty of a crime might get probation or might go to jail."

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"For how long?"

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"...that depends a lot on the crime. You could give examples?"

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"Uh - somebody beats up their girlfriend."

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"If it was the first time probation and a restraining order so they can't go near her."

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"...is that magical or does it just mean formally telling them -"

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" - there's a magic option but usually they don't use that unless the victim wants it to feel safe or they're being uncooperative or something, usually they just formally tell you and then you go to jail if you break it."

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"Somebody steals somebody's stuff."

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"...depends a lot on why, but usually they'd have to give it back and pay a fine and maybe take a class."

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"A class?"

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"Addressing the cause, whatever it was."

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"...I don't think I've ever heard of this kind of class -"

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"The idea is people commit crimes for reasons and you should address those."

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"How?"

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"- well, if they stole because they were hungry, you give them food. If they were mad at the person they stole from, you address why they reacted by stealing. If they just get a thrill out of doing things they're not allowed to do, maybe they need better sources for that."

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"I need you to be more specific, if I tell them that they're going to imagine - fantasy brainwashing -"

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" - I mean, if someone was a kleptomaniac and wanted a subtle artist to help we could arrange that, but the classes are just sitting down with people who did the same thing and some counselors and social workers and talking about what things you'd need to do better in the future."

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"I'm not sure they'll believe me."

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"They'll think we're lying to you, or you're lying to them?"

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"Both."

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"...because that's so different from how the justice system in Tapa works?"

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"I don't know about Tapa specifically. It's not how things work for reds."

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" - okay but the rest of the universe doesn't believe in that and the only reason we haven't invited all of them to live anywhere is because Vanda Nossëo has been promising they're working on it as fast as possible."

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"But I only sort of believe you because I've been here for a while."

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" - I guess pregnant women and their traumatized immediate family members living in a hotel on a foreign planet aren't really going to get up to a lot of crimes."

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"Is it only immediate family, do the grandmas have to clear out -"

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" - no, no, anyone who wants to stay can, just, we're not going to have lots of horrible things happening if they're too scared to report crimes, are we?"

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"I don't know. I don't know these reds."

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Sigh. "Would it be more believable if we just said the punishment for nonviolent crimes will not exceed one local year in prison and the punishment for violent crimes will not exceed eight, except murder, for which you get sixteen."

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Nod.

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"Well. That's true."

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Kvina wades back in and talks to people.

Walks out again. "I told them stuff."

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"Thank you. What's your consulting fee?"

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"...I thought you'd have some amount in mind if you paid me at all."

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"We can bill Vanda Nossëo and they have a discretionary budget in the sextillions."

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"What's a sextillion?"

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"...so a thousand trillion is a quadrillion and a thousand quadrillion is a quintillion and a thousand quintillion is a sextillion. I would never dishonestly bill Vanda Nosseëo but emergency consulting is usually really expensive for a reason and you can ask for what you're worth."

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"But I have no idea."

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"I can look up what someone got paid in a comparable situation?" She does that. She offers her eight thousand local money.

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"Okay. Thank you."

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"You're welcome. Do you need anything else from us?"

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"I don't think so.

Uh, you should email them instead of bothering them in person whenever you can."

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Nod. "Thank you."

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"You're welcome."

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Peka gets a bead atop a plate of snacks.

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Nom. Squeeze.

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Mountain range somewhere! It's - it's sort of unfathomably pretty, the kind of pretty place you would get if an extraordinarily gifted and obsessive artist with planet-shaping abilities shaped the whole planet to their personal tastes. And they had good taste. She is looking out on some rivers and a valley and a meadow and there is not another living soul in sight.

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Ooooooh.

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Birds chirp in the distance.

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She goes running around whooping for a bit before she squeezes the bead again.

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The bead takes her back home.

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What good beads. She adds it to her hair with the others.

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Vanda Nossëo delivers cleaned Tapai reds with all colors of hair.

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Tapa thinks it's a bit much that one of them wanted to be blue.

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"My understanding was that property ownership is blue, and they own the area that used to be the red district? Do you want help cleaning that up, by the way, it sounds like the kind of job angels would be perfect for."

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"We'd love angel help with that. Blue is - not quite just a matter of owning property, technically anyone can do that, it's collecting rent that's blue -"

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"We told them to do the caste where they'd most easily get a job, so they'd integrate fastest, and I suppose collecting rent is the easiest way to get a job if you own a lot of property."

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Tapai blues look uncomfortably at each other.

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"It's so good of you to be going ahead with this. Everyone at headquarters who was apprised of the situation was tremendously relieved that local leadership was stepping up. Maybe you can show him off to galactics who have heard nothing about Tapa except the reds thing, call it a diplomatic job."

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"One, maybe. If there's one in every neighborhood that adds up."

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"....what does it add up to, exactly? Thirty? And if they're not good with money they can't have kids, it seems a very self-correcting sort of system."

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"More than that. Tapa's a large country with more than a hundred red neighborhoods."

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"It seems to me like you're pretty good at keeping unqualified blues from ending up in a position to cause trouble - unlike some other people, maybe - is that the worry, or is it something else?"

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"It's not that we have to give them office, but allowing them to be blue at all is awkward."

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"Oh?"

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"The caste itself implies aristocracy whatever the de jure positions held."

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"I'm still not sure I understand - should I think about this as if we used blue to mark our royal family? Where no matter what the legal status associated with that were, a stranger just wouldn't be? -- unless they grabbed the genes for it, I suppose, but I do not think the reds did that."

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"Even if they grabbed the genes for it they certainly don't have the culture."

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"Maybe we should invite him here to discuss this, I bet he's given it some thought and it'd be useful for, uh, estimating how much the culture fit will be a problem."

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Uncomfortable blues.

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"I'd really like to know if there's a problem so we can figure out if our resources can help resolve it."

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"It doesn't seem like the sort of thing that your resources would be directly relevant to."

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"All right."

 

 

Peka gets a little notebook. It contains instructions on composing magic music. (This only works in Ardas, says the preface.)

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The heck is an Arda? She reads it anyway.

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It is very detailed and does not explain what an Arda is.

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She plays with her beads and her fancy tent and feeds her baby and bewilders her parents and runs around on the empty mountain range singing songs.

...she tries the magic music thing in the mountain range.

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Yep!!!

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EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE~

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Vanda Nossëo emails the new ex-reds to ask how they're integrating.

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Some of them are doing all right and they are helping the ones who are doing less all right.

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It's something.

 

Would theologians like to agree on something that could be wished up for babies, so being rid of reds doesn't have to wait for them to grow up to the age where they can control a morph?

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Hmmmm, it seems like this involves placing a lot of faith in a single person or small number of people to correctly understand and implement a cleaning.

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It could be one of them. Or several of them, if they all want to wish something up and then put the kids through all of them.

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Redundant processes might be just the thing.

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Oh, good.

 

 

(Peka gets some outfits suitable for a princess running around in Valinor singing magic songs.)

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She tries them all on once each and then because getting into and out of uniform in a timely manner is such a pain starts working on a song that will let her change clothes faster.

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One time when she goes back to her mountain there is a little castle in the distance that definitely wasn't there last time.

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Oooooh. She hikes castleward, playing with magic music as she goes.

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It's pretty enough to fit right in. It's not very big. It does not seem to be inhabited.

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She checks out all of its rooms!

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This one has a Katin-sized crib and lots of Katin-toys all over! This one has so. many. musical. instruments. And lovely acoustics, too. 

 

The master bedroom is right adjacent to Katin's room and has extraordinary acoustics also, and a bed designed for people taller than Peka and stunning glassware and tapestries and fabrics.

 

There are snacks in the kitchen. They are Peka's favorites. 

 

There are hot springs. 

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She is tempted to holler "come out, come out wherever you are" but this part is fun.

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The next day she gets a bead that lets her fly.

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oh gosh

It pairs so well with the invisibility.

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Can Gem clear her schedule to tolerate some Orvaran theologians with carefully phrased wishes and strong feelings about pollution?

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"This planet doesn't seem like an efficient use of peal attention at all. I mean, not that you can just kick it and run away after, but you sure kicked it."

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"Thirteen billion is kind of a lot of miserable people. They'd have eventually killed all the reds and then been much cheaper to help, but I don't especially regret not waiting for that, and it might've taken long enough there were a whole lot more of them."

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"I wish they were in range of me. Well. I can do portable cleansing powers."

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"I wish Calado were your headache too, trust me. Thank you."

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"You're welcome."

She wishes on powers for some theologians.

Most of them have innocuous results but one of them turns up with a power that kills and rapidly decays a target to the point at which the consensus position is that it has undergone enough natural processing to no longer be polluted. This is very distressing to the family of the test subject child.

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He will buy a resurrection. Is everyone satisfied with the combination of the rest of them.

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The theologian with the instarot power considers the fact that her wish got that result to be moderate evidence that nothing short of it suffices.

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"I have somebody who can depower people if they aren't magic rocks, lemme know."

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"The wish machinery runs off how you expect it to work, it's not evidence independent as that. Or are you taking the fact that any non-Amentan who wished on a power like that would get literally nothing at all as strong evidence that pollution doesn't exist at all?"

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"I wasn't expecting this exact result. But apparently my understanding of theology has as a consequence that this is how to clean a red. - I do think the resurrection will also suffice but apparently that wasn't on the table for some reason."

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"That this is a way to clean a red with no consequences unacceptable to you. We don't know why it did this instead of something else but 'nothing else would be adequate' is quite a jump, it's not as if it was starting from political desiderata like 'functions as a solution' and then finding the minimum satisfying procedure. The only thing you can conclude from getting that in particular is that that is adequate."

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"I didn't wish for this in particular. I wouldn't have been unsatisfied if I'd gotten a - nondestructive lightshow, like some of the others -"

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"But if this happened to be marginally more magically efficient and also perfectly satisfactory then you'd get this instead."

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"If it were efficient the others would have gotten it too. And something like it would have happened to the dishes and the mice."

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"If they considered it unsatisfactory, they wouldn't get it even if it's more efficient. You did read the description of how wishes work - this is something you consider satisfactory, not the minimum you consider satisfactory or the only thing you consider satisfactory or even the most logical outcome of your beliefs about what's satisfactory."

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"I'm not so sure... maybe I should read it again. But if it were in fact the case that this were the only way to clean them you'd find it very politically inconvenient -"

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"I think that it's very likely that if a solution is not agreed upon within the next few weeks and implemented over the next few months, then independent actors will begin to rescue any reds who they believe to be in danger, yes."

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She winces. "But if we say they're clean and they're not really clean -"

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"I understand and I assure you we're really pulling out all of the stops to come up with something adequate. But if there are five people here who each have something adequate, and we do all five..."

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"If you hadn't had me along I wouldn't have thought to assume that the esteemed theologians who remained weren't covering it between them. But..."

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"I understand wanting to be sure. I really do not think you have any information over and above that, except the information that this would also suffice.

 

If, say, under your interpretation the magic they have changes someone from 'inherently polluting' to merely 'currently contaminated and in need of a shower', you wouldn't get a power like theirs, because that's not satisfactory. But their powers and a shower would still be wholly adequate."

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"Are they also taking showers?"

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"If your recommendation is 'these five things and a shower' I will certainly make sure they all get showers."

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"Well, it couldn't hurt."

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He decides that's good enough. Can they have an adult subject this time to go through all five innocuous ones and make sure there's no inexplicable brain damage or anything.

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The adult subjects from the volunteered neighborhood are all either already morphed or recently gave birth but they can get a recently gave birth.

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Okay.

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She seems okay.

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Then they should do the kids.

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They do.

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It's not the most satisfying approach. He reminds himself that Peka and Katin are indestructible. 

 

He tells Tapa that servants could be provided to do the work if Tapa's prepared to clean and integrate everybody. 

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Maybe once they're clean they could instead go be someone else's problem.

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"I suspect many of them will want to do that but expelling a population involuntarily looks bad. We can set up appealing alternatives and advertise them aggressively?"

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"We were thinking that if they weren't going to be here we could bypass the question of caste transition entirely."

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"Oh, aliens can rent out land in Tapa without being blue?"

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"...that's not what I said, but as it happens we aren't trying to prevent aliens from owning Tapai land and have no grounds to enforce an out of caste income cap on you."

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"I was just thinking that the landowners would be the most reluctant to emigrate. Well, we don't have applicable laws that'd affect a non-member, it's all PR considerations and if you think that's what's best for Tapa we can definitely arrange for them to have somewhere to go."

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"I think it's clearly positive sum for the reds to be moved somewhere that will better appreciate them."

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Nod. "I'll tell places to start advertising."

 

Soon there are descriptions online of member states that take immigrants and their laws and living conditions and job openings there. 

Peka gets a big physical book of same, with glossy pictures and the page for Ambaróna circled.

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And she has FINALLY been discharged from the military.

"Uh," she says in case anyone's listening, "this tent was military issue, originally, when I give it back they're gonna be real confused."

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The next time she goes back to the tent it is a properly behaving tent.

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She gives it back and the red division of the Tapai military is none the wiser.

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The bubble bath is in her bedroom, along with a map of the Ambaróna subway system with a building marked, and a set of house keys. Actual old-fashioned physical house keys.

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Wow.

(Her parents and siblings are so confused. She lets Apef take bubble baths.)

She investigates the house keys to see if they teleport her someplace.

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First one takes her to a pretty nondescript valley somewhere; second to a different one. 

 

Third takes her to a bigger, prettier apartment in the penthouse of a two-hundred story skyscraper in downtown Ambaróna; it looks out on the palace and has five bedrooms and two hot tubs.

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Ooooh.

Anybody home?

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Nope!! 

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Does this place have neighbors?

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There are other apartments on this floor, doors closed, and an Elf vacuuming the landing next to the elevator.

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"Hi!"

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" - good afternoon, ma'am!"

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"Do you happen to know whose apartment that is?" Point.

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"I can ask at the front desk -" frown - "The title is in the name Peka Atan."

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...she giggles. "Thanks!"

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"You're very welcome, ma'am!"

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She finds the elevator and goes down and walks around.

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It's about as dense as a Tapai city but designed by people who would find every building in Tapa intolerably ugly. The population is mostly Elves, but not entirely; there are winged people of various kinds flying around, some people who look like Amentans but with alien hair colors, periodic even-weirder-than-that people. 

 

...for some reason she can read all the signs just fine.

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Wow.

She twirls down the street in one of the princess dresses, laughing.

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He arranges for Vanda Nossëo to give Tapa servants one neighborhood at a time. Any other countries want that?

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Yes!

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It'd be a real mess if they ran into that 'deaths resulting from alien activities' problem Rivik ran into, so they'd better either be really sure they can do this without killing reds or be prepared to actually prosecute for any red deaths that result, does that disqualify anybody?

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They don't have to prosecute them very hard, right? They can do a day or two in lockup.

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They have to convict them of murder or manslaughter as appropriate, frequently enough that the conviction rate passes external scrutiny. If their penalty for murder is a day or two in lockup then that's fine, some species don't really go in on punitive handling of crimes.

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...they do have disparate handling of murder and manslaughter of different castes.

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Countries with real penalties get to go first. But that is, legally speaking, adequate, and eventually they'll get their turn.

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No one is inspired by having to wait a bit longer to prosecute clean citizens more aggressively.

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Maybe in a hundred years they'll be ashamed of themselves. 

 

He pays attention when Tapa gets to Peka's neighborhood.

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Outwardly it's a very normal red neighborhood. Everybody presents themselves for cleaning. Peka has beads in her hair.

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They get morph instructions and babies get tapped and cleanable possessions can go here for cleaning and they can read up on places they might want to live.

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Peka and her family want to live in Ambarona!

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There is a shuttle right over there!

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She'll meet them there. She scoops up Katin and -

- keys are mysteriously not working.

...they go to Ambarona anyway.

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Ambaróna is pleased to meet them and has little bracelets that do currency and emergency services.

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Do her keys work here?

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They do!

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Great. She goes to her apartment and attempts to learn its address.

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The nearest subway stop is Palace and there's an elevator directly from the subway stop to her building.

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Do the keys put her back where her family is if she squeezes them again?

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Inconveniently, no, they take her back to the nondescript valley that she would pass through apartment-visiting from Tapa.

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Well, she'll have to figure out the long way, then.

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There are helpful resettlement people around to get her family to whatever housing arrangements they have set up or help them make arrangements if needed.

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Are they going to be confused about Peka already having a place?

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If they are surprised that Peka already owns a five-bedroom luxury apartment in the most expensive neighborhood in the most expensive city on the sixteenth-most-expensive planet in the multiverse they mostly hide it. 


On Peka's pillow there are concert tickets.

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Oooh, how many?

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Five (and a note that says 'babies welcome + free'.)

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Then she and her parents and Apef and Shahn will show up, Katin slung to Peka's back.

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It's a very large concert hall. They have extraordinarily good seats. The singer is one of the Elf princes, apparently.

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Eeeeeeeee.

Katin sits in her lap and waves her arms.

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The Elf prince is a kind of extraordinary singer.

 

She might recognize his voice, actually, from the beads.

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Yes. Yes she does.

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Before the last song listed on the program he pauses.

 

"This concert is dedicated to a girl. See, I've always wanted to have the kind of story about meeting the love of my life that we'd tell to our grandchildren and they wouldn't believe us. They'd go running off to more mature and responsible relatives to ask 'wait, did he really declare his undying love for a girl he'd never met at a concert dedicated to her after giving her a castle?' and my mature and responsible relatives will shake their heads sadly and say 'well, it was a pretty small castle, as castles come.'

Now, Prince Canafinwë, you are thinking, if you haven't met the girl how can you be decided about whether you want to have grandchildren with her? And here I will confess I cheated. On Hazel, a newly-added dimension four hops from here off Edda, a boy named Michael met a girl named Rebecca - in a nunnery - and stole her away with her daughter Catherine and they married that week and have three children so far and are cheerfully expecting to end up with twelve. And when Michael met the rest of us he told us we were missing out. And in another dimension next door to theirs, the local Macalaurë met a girl named Beka with a daughter named Kat and stubbornly refused to notice what was right in front of him until Michael and Rebecca showed up to shake him straight.

And I had the misfortune that not a single Rebecca was born on my world, but I also had a teleport. And I went looking. I found her on Amenta - the new planet that's caused all the fuss with their color-coded caste system and their infanticide and their collective horror at the idea that their sanitation workers might be touching things. 

I suspect the population of Amenta will find it mildly annoying that they have their shuttles and are getting their planets and their magic lessons and their emigration rights because I wanted to impress a red girl. Honestly, knowing that really improved the whole experience. So, uh, Amentans, I fixed your planet because Peka deserved better. And boy, are you lucky you had her."

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Peka is squirming with delight in her seat.

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"She's here tonight. If I recall correctly, she has a lot of magic presents and can fly."

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Peka puts Katin on her sister's lap and swoops into the air.

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He walks over to the front of the stage and reaches up for her.

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She swoops down into his arms and kisses him.

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Oh good. "I think you know the last song," he whispers after a moment. "First one on the first bead -"

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Nod nod.

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He starts singing.

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She sings along as soon as she has the key and there's a good pickup.

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There are a lot of people taking pictures.

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Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.

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When the song is over he kisses her again.

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Kissssssss~

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They can do that for a really long time!!!

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If they do it for too long her ignorance of the public unacceptability of hair touching might bite them.

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There is a surprised stir from the crowd. He giggles. "That we should do elsewhere, it's - distracting - your family know how to get home okay -"

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"Yeah."

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Pop. "I'm glad you didn't morph it some other color it's so pretty."

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She tosses her hair. "I'm glad you like it."

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"Elves have a thing about hair, it's - very sensitive -"

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"Whoops. How obscene was it when in front of a few thousand people and cameras I -" Pet.

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Lean. "...approximately like if you'd reached under my clothes? My fault, I could have told you tons of Elf things but I didn't want to be, like, grooming you to be an Elf princess - just giving you beautiful presents that made you happy -"

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"The presents were so good."

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"I consulted Rebecca on what foods you might like."

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"She has good taste!"

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"What a coincidence! Is your family going to be okay - most of the immigrants are so scared around us -"

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"They're a little freaked out but they'll cope! The apartment is super nice."

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"All yours. Even if you did not want to date any aliens right now, to be clear."

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"I got the person who was vacuuming the hall to look up who owned the place, I figured it'd be my secret admirer's, but it wasn't!"

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"You do such a good happy. I really want you to be happy."

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She beams at him and squirms happily.

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Maybe they should kiss some more.

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Yes. And she should pet his hair.

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Ooooooh.

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"So do I call you Prince Canafinwë -"

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"Macalaurë."

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"Macalaurë," she repeats, careful on the L and R. And she kisses him again.

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"Peka. All of us think we got the best one but I'm right."

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Giggle.

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Kisses!

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She has already been as daring as reaching under his clothes so she might as well ACTUALLY reach under his clothes right?

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Yes, great idea!!

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"This has been the very best thing ever." She likes her princess dress but doesn't need to wear it right now.

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"It was so hard not to grab you right away - so the Amentans would have been sad, fuck them all anyway -" Less clothes means more possible places to kiss!

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Oooooooh. Appreciative squirming and happy noises ensue.

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"Didn't because -" kiss - "when we met I wanted it to make everything make sense instead of making everything confusing -"

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"This was mysterious and fun and exciting and awesome."

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"Good. I love you."

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"I love you." Kiss.

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"If they get their minds set on surpassing one another soon the major outlay of this organization will be courtship presents."

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"They don't even seem to require the extravagance."

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"It's the principle, apparently. I did not dare ask what principle."

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"I bet you guessed, though."

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"It's about the - aesthetic experience of thinking of something he'd like her to have and then never ever having to think 'is this actually worth the effort that would go into it' because he has taken that off the table and is just giving her all the things he'd like her to have. It's cute and all, I'm just alarmed at the prospects of a courtship arms race."

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"As described it's not necessarily a competition-based aesthetic..."

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"Maybe I will just suggest they don't tell each other about their plans until they're done, so it doesn't turn into one." He shakes his head. "I'm glad rainbow planet's handled all the same, we should probably have things like 'have extremely unusual unfulfilled preferences' in the charts somehow."

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"Probably. Anything else that floats up if we prioritize that -"

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"Don't know yet, can put some people on it. Their colony planets should all be in Revelation, if there are gonna be a hundred billion of them soon enough and they continue to have the sentimental attachment to the death penalty that other people have to ice cream trucks and puppies."

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"We desperately need a way to handle demons learning about worldleapers and egg-laying species."

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"Uh huh. That's actually what I wanted to talk about, the Macalaurës just being a tangentially related sideshow. People who non-malevolently want to hatch a kid will probably be perfectly happy to do that under loose bindings somewhere in Revelation - protects their kid from accidents or deliberate action by other daeva, means their kid can be fetched out of Limbo or summoned out of the daeva realms if they die some other way - it'll stress the Solar governments in Revelation out but I bet we can come up with a way of checking that no underbound daeva are leaping over to visit which they'd be satisfied with -

- worldleapers are the hard problem."

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"I don't suppose the think tank of your dad et al have come up with a way to make them not work in a certain world."

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"Sure, soon as 'change the laws of physics in arbitrary dimensions' is in our portfolio."

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"Get my rocks to work farther away and you're covered." Sigh. "Or the wish machine. Hell is adjacent to literally five other worlds, I suppose we could just have someone ready to intercept at all times..."

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"We could have someone checking often enough to tell a precog in time but then we have told a demon what they're checking for and that makes it likelier to get out. And I don't get the sense that that's Cam's favorite job and one he wishes we'd up the frequency on."

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"Forensics is not his favorite, no. Are any of the demons with adopted children trustworthy enough -"

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"Not to deliberately share it yes, not to thoughtlessly mention it - probably? They're lovely people, just "keep this information secret in every sense including by keeping secret things about your job that would let people guess it" isn't a natural style of thinking. Maybe we should find some ex-human ex-cops or something."

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"If any cops turned into demons in particular."

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"Not many, one imagines, but probably not none. I can have people look, at least.... we're going to be squeezed really tightly for planets for the next while if we can't find a way to make demons more accessible..."

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"Yeah. People who can go anywhere can go in range of Wish and get a planet in ten seconds apiece, people in range of here have their pick of what I can find and I could branch into coalescing planets out of space dust if necessary, but if they need to be anywhere else..."

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"Epic's done stuff for the people in Cube who petitioned for more in that neighborhood and one for the people in 403 - magic system has religious significance and you've gotta be a local - but he'll get bored if he has to do that often and I'd rather the rainbow colony planets be in Revelation than in Space because I don't love the idea of that much traffic going through Hell and a summoning rollout among rainbows will be touchy and I want 'em immortal even without one."

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"We could route the traffic through Fairyland or Heaven but I suppose that doesn't help much."

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" - Heaven or Fairyland might do it if lightleapers don't function normally there - and is an improvement even if they do, because it'd be harder for an angel or fairy to get one. Heaven or Fairyland and an unthinkable distance away."

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"It's hard to go fast in Heaven at all."

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"Then let's reroute all traffic through Heaven as soon as we can clear a satisfactory spot. Think at that point we should be putting Warp colony planets in Space where you can shine them up? There's still no access to Limbo."

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"No access to Limbo is annoying, it'd save us on resurrections. "

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"Save on resurrections and also I vaguely suspect the best way to make them give up the death penalty is to have it totally ineffectual - not in a 'we'll get everyone back someday' sense in a literal 'all it does is transplant them to a nice place where they're indestructible' way."

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"Ha."

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"It means getting a bunch of planets terraformed for us in Revelation but maybe Macalaurë has a plan for that. - once we're ready to handle daeva learning about the multiverse I do also think we should invite Revelation into the fold and apologize for having kept them on a low-information diet for so long, they'll be a valuable resource and one suspects mlldly annoyed. I would be, if I'd been living in a nice post-scarcity society and it turned out I had starving neighbors."

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"We need to get ready to handle that. And then, yes."

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"So," says the guy in Celenta, "once the reds are gone I think there'd actually only be a couple things to qualify for membership."

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"What things?"

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"Same penalties across the board for crimes or a vote within each caste in favor of the current setup, raise the minimum age for the death penalty and for extradition of people under that age to countries that haven't raised it."

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"Extradition one's a bit of a coordination problem, can't do that unilaterally - well, we could, with the defense agreement, but -"

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"But it's better not to burn bridges, yeah, of course. The minimum age is five and three-quarters but six might be cleaner."

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"Why so high? You never even met our species before."

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"You mature like humans and that's what the humans that still execute people settled on. You could try to argue Amentans don't mature like humans, but at a glance you do. For Elves it's a hundred eighty five, not that it's come up."

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"Huh. On the criminal penalties one - see, most crime is intracaste. I can imagine purples preferring that everyone's penalties be as harsh as theirs - so the people who harmed them or other purples they know would be punished - while I can imagine most blues and greens would rather let a few purples and greys off lightly than risk suffering such penalties themselves -"

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"Well, as long as it's the same for everybody it doesn't have to be put up to a vote at all, but if you think there'd be consistent differences in what people want then that's what the vote mechanism is for."

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"I'm not sure I follow."

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"If blues and greens will vote for crimes against blues and greens to have light penalties, and purples and greys will vote for crimes against purples and greys to have stiff penalties, and everyone will be okay with other castes doing that, that's the system working as intended from our standpoint."

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"Not all crime is intracaste and some crimes have multiple victims."

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"Could you have consistent penalties and a lot of weight given in sentencing to the wishes of the victim, and then castes which care to have a norm against stiff sentences for their members could directly request those when relevant?"

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"- I'm not sure I've correctly communicated the - when someone's been, say, defrauded, they will probably prefer harsher penalties for the perpetrator if those are available. But if they're voting on general policy, I believe that purples and greys are likely to prefer harsher sentences for any castes they can vote on, and blues, greens, and yellows are likely to want lighter sentences for themselves even if in so voting they grant the same to other castes. I'm not sure about oranges."

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"So you don't think you can come up with any proposed sentencing law that will have majority approval within every caste?"

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"Right. Disparate sentencing like we have now will poll fine with the higher status castes but poorly with the lower, making everything gentler would be similar, making everything harsher would be the reverse."

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"If everything's equal you don't have to put it to a vote."

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"Well, then I suppose I can disappoint some vengeful purples and greys."

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"It helps that lots of crimes are remediable now."

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"That's how we'll spin it."

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"The rule for prison conditions is that they're allowed to transfer, is that going to be a concern?"

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"To any others within the system?"

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"Yes - couple places requested the swap infrastructure make it possible to separate co-conspirators and so on, we can accommodate that -"

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"Does this mean we have to shut down the prisons that manage themselves by only allowing in certain applicants or is it only the other way around -?"

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"No, no, that's fine, it's if they didn't let people leave that would be a problem."

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"So we can still have one-caste prisons just fine - yeah I think we can get that through all right."

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"One-caste prisons are just Amentans but there are lots of countries that offered something unique and as long as prisoners prefer it to something that meets our standards it wouldn't make sense to say it fails to meet them."

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"What else is like that?"

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"Various religions that offer a monastic retreat kind of thing, single-gender is of course a popular option, there's a place with chips like ours that has the victims record the experience of the crime that they had and send it so the criminal experiences it too, which sounds horrible to us but rather few of them transfer out, there's a cultural belief that once you've lived a mistake a hundredfold it's like it never touched you."

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"Never touched you?"

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Shrug. "Like - the victim will consider it as if you are a stranger and not the person who harmed them, employers won't consider it, God won't care for the ones who believe in that..."

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"Huh."

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"They do have really low recidivism - but I don't think it'd work for anyone else, runs off too much cultural stuff."

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"Anyway, we can let people move to alien prisons if they like."

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"Great! Is the death penalty thing going to be a concern aside from the extradition side -"

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"The age limit? It's weird but in an orthogonal way to most of what we care about I think."

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Nod. "It's very rare but technically legal for one polity to request a resurrection of somebody someone else executed."

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"Do they then have to serve some lesser sentence?"

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"Usually comes up when there's a disagreement about whether they did anything illegal."

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"Is there some process to appeal it or can they just go behind our backs...?"

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"We'd notify you the request was made, you can file an injunction and then argue they're a danger or it'll damage deterrence or they're not equipped to retry the case appropriately."

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Nod.

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"Is there anything else that'd be useful from us at this stage?"

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"I think we're about set but I may have more questions as things move."

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"Great. I'm excited for you."

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Amentan nations join up.

They have some resurrections even after bargaining some away for colony planets, and spend them.

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They have to pick a single facility to save time for the in-extraordinary-demand resurrection staff. Sleeping resurrected people to be awakened get delivered there. A magical girl comes by to wake them.

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Relatives stand by to tell them things and escort them home.

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Magical girl listens to music and beams to herself and does the whole batch and vanishes with a pop.

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And he reaches out to some demons who do terraforming and ask what they could do with an appropriate variety of planets at the right distance from their suns in Revelation.

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They can do all kinds of marvelous things!

 

Not all the countries of Amenta are signing on. Rivik, for example, is a holdout.

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That's fine. No one really wants there to be more Rivikni anyway. (They don't say that in so many words).

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Well, some Rivikni are moving out of Rivik into their neighbors who are suddenly taking immigrants, there's that.

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Maybe the cultural influences will be good for them.

Shuttles once per hour are free; you have to pay for more frequent shuttle service than that, or for a shuttleport past the first one.

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Calado has them more often! For some reason! Some impatient people go take the Calador bus.

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Calado's bus is a single bus and getting kind of full but it does run continuously. Bus guy is making tons of money.

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People are confused about why Calado has this constant bus. Did they pay for it?

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Bus guy just felt bad for people in Calado. He is paying road use tolls, actually, but comes out ahead what with people buying bus tickets.

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...huh. Well, if there's that much demand for frequent service people will be able to get the money scraped up.

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Shuttles pop about between Amentan countries and their shiny new colony planets, which are mostly land except for near the equator. Shuttles to Elendil are every ten minutes in most places. Bus guy gets a bigger bus. 

 

Companies hire local consultants on the hair color thing and publish hiring listings which observe that local nondiscrimination law prohibits taking into consideration factors such as caste, ethnic group, religion or national origin in hiring. But for the convenience of Amentans, jobs can be sorted by the Amentan caste with which that sort of work would traditionally be associated.  

Ambassadorial and diplomatic work, trade negotiations, infrastructure development (especially seeking local consultants who could work with a municipality to develop functional public transit), serving on oversight councils in polities that have merited extra oversight recently for some reason...Portal research, wizardry research, new planet research, magic music development, lecturer position at these hundred universities scattered across sixty-two planets...compliance monitoring, prioritization monitoring and management, artifact design, policy and trade and taxation and allocation work...internal security, investigative work, rapid response teams in dangerous situations...healing, teaching pre-industrial aliens medicine, divine magic research and manufacture work, social workers, community outreach work, counselors, child support services...magic item manufacture, shuttle transit, aid shipments and delivery and distribution, teaching pre-industrial aliens construction and manufacturing and infrastructure and electrical work...

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Amentans mostly obey the caste suggestions.

Mostly.

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The hiring manager for the oversight councils thing has silvery fur and a bone spur on the top of his skull that flushes pink when he's worked up and barely seems to register whether the people in the room have Amentan-traditional hair colors. "All right, I read all your applications and you're here because they looked great, except those of you who speak Valtaz should know that the grammar came through kooky and someone should twiddle with your Allspeak settings. Welcome to oversight and monitoring. We have half a million employees, we work in six hundred different polities, and our job is to ensure that every single election, every single state use-of-force incident, every single violation of membership terms and every single complaint are meticulously and transparently monitored, evaluated appropriately, and escalated whenever that's warranted. You with the lavender hair, do you have a question."

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"Is there separate per-polity training?"

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"First four months in a new place you're shadowing someone who's been there a while. Average length on an assignment is six standard years but that's misleading, most people either request a transfer before training is out or they stay a real while. People transfer for culture fit, mostly, though there are a few places we have trouble staffing because of the weather."

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Lavender hair doesn't have another question.

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They go through example investigations and conduct standards and transparency rules and how to report attempts at bribery or intimidation. Bone spur occasionally pinkens at particularly upsetting case studies. Does anyone else have questions?

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Nope.

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Amentans get assigned to shadow observers. Amentans get taught magic (which won't work on their colony planets, the hiring alien explains with annoyance, it's in the next dimension over.) Amentans can trade in more conventional goods. Amentans can get tourists once agreements for that are negotiated (everyone else feels very strongly that Amentans had better not execute random tourists for drunkenly peeing on the side of a building or something.)

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...aliens pee on buildings????

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...it's not a normal thing to do but it gets you, like, a ticket for public drunkenness or disorderly conduct or something, it's weird to react to it like it's some kind of atrocity.

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That's horrifying. Why are aliens gross???

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Well, aliens think they're evil, so it's even.

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...they're not evil.

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"Look," the guy says, "I help compile lists of destinations to advertise and make sure Atazzat's people will be safe while they visit, I don't really want to get into the question of whether you're any worse than your average slaveowner. But to people from a halfway decent society, uh, the question is whether you're worse than your average slaveowner, not whether you're evil at all."

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"But we outlawed slavery decades ago," says the chair of the tourism board of Cene.

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"Yeah, but you kept a brutalized and oppressed underclass who was prohibited from striking and would be murdered for not showing up to work, how is that not slavery? And you execute people for drunkenly peeing on the side of the road, and you sterilize people for crimes and don't give them access to counsel - which we invented long before we invented electricity - and you don't let anyone descended from farmers run for elected office or serve in the judiciary and you think it's an advantage of your population control system that poor people don't get to ever have children."

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"...can we get a different tourism person who will be, uh, more interested in showing off Amenta to best advantage..."

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"Are you okay with not executing tourists. If you can swing that I'm sure we can find someone who thinks you're great but if you can't then we can't in good conscience let anyone visit anyway."

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"I don't think we have a punishment on the books for peeing on buildings in particular because that's... I think literally never come up... but we can just charge tourists for the cost of cleaning to local standards if they cause pollution violations and fine them additionally if they aren't prompt in reporting."

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"That sounds a whole lot cheaper than a resurrection. Fine. We'll advertise for people who are really impressed with your gender politics or something and they'll get in touch."

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"...our what politics?"

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"Gender. Like, you don't have fields with gender disparities, you don't have disparate sentencing, that stuff."

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"...if that's what attracts tourists."

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"It helps counterbalance the other stuff."

 

Someone announces intent to resurrect any babies Tapa kills.

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"...and then do what with them?" the Tapai liaison to Vanda Nossëo wants to know.

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"- maybe the parents will want to immigrate? Let someone adopt them, otherwise - look, the aim here is to get you to stop killing babies, not to acquire a lot of Amentan babies, but if we get a lot of Amentan babies out of it I think they'll do okay."

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"We don't kill babies recreationally. Would it satisfy you if we seized all the perpetrators' assets and exiled them from Tapa, illegal baby and all?"

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" - that sounds way better than killing babies, yes."

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"Can we possibly get someone who has any understanding of historical context to do your job - we aren't doing it because it's fun, you don't have to sound as though you think we're delighted about it or less than eager to stop, we just need to replace the functionality."

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"On Savandol this is an elected position."

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Sigh.

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(Saving babies polls very well on Savandol.)

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Yvalta, on the federal level, declines membership, and attempts to find Soyok guilty of treason when he says his House is joining on its own.

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What does this attempt look like exactly.

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They would like to start with arresting him. (He warns his security fake-purple.)

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Vanda Nossëo notifies them that Soyok's House is under their protection and that aggression against it will not be tolerated.

 

Soldiers find themselves back on someone else's property. With modeling-clay weapons and sticky notes that say the same thing.

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Yvalta says they didn't join Vanda Nossëo and treason is illegal.

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Soyok's House joined Vanda Nossëo as a polity of more than one million people in its own right.

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It's not a polity, it's a House. The householders' citizenship is Yvaltan.

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As precedent there's this case from a world where this empire'd conquered everywhere and the exiled princess of what was now a segment of the empire snuck dressed as a peasant to the shuttleport and then to Vanda Nossëo and then petitioned for her kingdom to become a member state. They said she had to meaningfully administer her kingdom, so she went back to it and demonstrated that laws she passed (conveyed in secret to her people) were still obeyed, and they said she had to have clearly delineated and enforced borders, so in the night one day her loyalists went out to the old borders and marked them all with orange paint and made their stand there prepared to die enforcing their borders and at that point Vanda Nossëo said "...fine."

 

There are a lot of movies about the princess. She's very popular.

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Soyok's contractors aren't loyalists with orange paint, they're contractors.

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The borders look pretty clearly delineated and enforced. 

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They aren't borders, they're ordinary property lines enforced by Yvaltan federal agreements that Vanda Nossëo is now violating.

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"We're really not in the habit of turning away well-organized peoples with internal governance and law-enforcement who want to join. We regret the inconvenience."

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The treason. It's that.

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To complete the membership process Soyok needs to hold a free and fair vote and allow the signatories to these particular contracts that don't meet galactic standards to withdraw if they see fit without penalty. His planet is all lined up if he thinks letting people tour it will help with the vote.

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He does think that.

(Yvalta is very angry. All the other liaisons to Vanda Nossëo on the planet again rehearse their gentle objections that the planets are certainly very nice and all but they could stand to do a better job of pretending to give a shit about the institutions they're bribing Amenta to torch.)

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"Maybe we can have Amentans in all the liaison roles on both sides in a season or so, I think that'll help."

 

(It's a lovely empty planet with lots of land area.)

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A lot of people try to skip out on their contracts to sign on with Soyok.

They are found in breach and prosecuted accordingly. This only sometimes involves sterilization or the death penalty.

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Mereth, hair now silver, turns rocks into modelling clay and hangs out in sight of the border and frets about this. "If we actually didn't care about respecting local institutions we wouldn't have to let them do that."

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"I can't actually tell when you care about local institutions and customs and when you don't," Soyok says. "I keep expecting you to want me to do something awful to get the planet, or keep it, I'm just at a point where I'd do it anyway."

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"...I really don't think we ask anything awful of anybody."

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"Maybe you'll hire a red to do one of your interfacing jobs here and make people smile at it if they want babies, just to watch them flinch. I wouldn't be surprised."

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"We would probably hire a red if they wanted the job and were qualified but you're allowed to turn your interfacing people away if you don't like them."

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"Well. Let me know when I need to do something or sacrifice a citizen to your reportedly very cozy prison system or - whatever."

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"I'm not even a liaison I'm security - those are less different things without a caste system but they're still different things - but I'm sure you'd hear about it." Modelling clay rock. It retains the coloration of the original; she squishes it into an even gray all around. "How does Yvalta execute people?"

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"Depends on the House. Firing squad's popular."

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"For leaving their jobs."

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"Not if they're free agents, but if they're under contract and there isn't an exit clause. It's mostly greys without exit clauses. Prevents them from going 'I activate my exit clause' right as you're under attack. Sometimes oranges, if people want personal therapists and don't want them leaving with a head full of secrets, or yellows who know a lot of political things."

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She bites her lip and mashes a lighter grey clay with the darker one. "I'm not allowed to quit under fire but I'm allowed to quit the rest of the time. Seems like a better way to do it, really."

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"I don't think I have anyone employed without an exit clause."

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"You're pretty cool, really."

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"Thank you - I think -"

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"Does it translate weird? It's meant nicely. You care about your people. 's why everyone at home loves our King, pretty much, but he had it easier than you because everyone told him from early childhood 'your entire job is to care about your people and do right by them'. It's more impressive to get there yourself."

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"It translated fine. I keep thinking about that story out of Rivik about the green who was arrested without a chance to get her daughter a sitter..."

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"They don't arrest anyone who's alone with a kid and there's like three ways to sort it out as soon as you get there, it's not that we don't care about that. They're revising procedures anyway, so it can't happen even for a minute."

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"Mm."

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"And they did notify Rivik first and request their assistance, it's just Rivik said 'go fuck yourselves', couldn't happen here."

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"I will refrain from telling you to go fuck yourselves if you want to arrest someone for stabbing a red but that's not because I've pulled Vanda Nossëo's values out of thin air, it's because I'm desperate and also wouldn't tell you to go fuck yourselves if you wanted to arrest someone for reupholstering a chair."

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"I feel like 'the aliens think reds are people' should be easier to model than it apparently is, even if no more compelling."

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"Yet you don't act like idealistic green adolescents fresh out of their first drug-embellished philosophy club meeting."

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"...is that how you'd act if you somehow stumbled on compelling evidence reds were people?"

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"I would probably be less inclined to try to lick light fixtures, assuming I came to this opinion without the drugs. I wouldn't start arresting other people's citizens without extradition over it."

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"If Rivik declared it open season on purples, and you had the means, you wouldn't be at all tempted to arrest people for murdering purples?"

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"I might be tempted to conquer them, if I were of a more conquest oriented frame of mind... I wouldn't pretend we were still going to be friends after that. This isn't how you acted about Tapai infanticide, either, you just found them another way to get what they were getting from that."

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"Are we pretending to still be friendly with Rivik? I don't think we have any contact with them at all..." Mash mash. "They prefer finding another way whenever it's available. Easier when they want something like 'deterrence' or 'population control' and not - whatever Rivik's thing with reds is. It's evil, it really is, to hate people that passionately and teach your children to hate them that passionately...we don't conquer places but if we did we would have done."

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"- as long as you don't take my people's children away for - the evil of being Amentan."

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"I wonder how Amentans'll feel about comparable cases in other places. Slaveowning societies that massacre their slaves when they hear we oppose slavery, that's the most common one, or people who execute some kids with a claim to a territory because they're scared the people of that territory will petition to have their rightful rulers installed, or governments who execute whoever we talked to first for the crime of not being complimentary enough about them, or people who go out and throw the neighbors' babies off a cliff because they heard we're going to grant the neighbors legal rights..."

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"...are you in fact going to take my people's children away if they parent them in a recognizably Amentan fashion, because if you are then I have to go find my math yellow to figure out if it's worth it."

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" - no, of course not, we'd only arrest them if they literally murdered someone and you refused to prosecute it and even then some other conditions have to hold."

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He nods once. He sighs. He picks up a bit of dropped modeling clay rock and squishes it between thumb and forefinger.

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"Like, there's a place that teaches kids that if they're gay that's the forces of evil inside them tempting them to sin, but if they do sin they will be tortured forever after they die. And what they've got to do is suppress the voice of evil and get into a normal marriage. And we don't take kids away from their parents for that but I don't feel bad about calling them evil, all the same."

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"There's a few different things going on here and I don't know that I've got the emotional energy to argue any one of them."

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Nod. Squish squish. 

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"My wife might leave me over this. My daughter's started trying to contest ownership of the House but that doesn't work as well when I've seceded."

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"They don't want to have a planet?"

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"My daughter thinks it might turn out to be polluted or have strings attached. My wife might stay on the planet, she's just unhappy with me."

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"It was made from scratch last week, it's not polluted."

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"It wouldn't surprise me, let alone my daughter, if you thought it was funny to make it polluted anyway."

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"Are the only people here who think torturing reds is bad also people who pollute things for fun?"

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"Even edgy greens usually have pollution instincts. You don't."

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"Well, the planet's not polluted and the only conditions are the ones we told you about in the first place. Sorry people are being stupid."

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"My family isn't stupid."

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"I said being stupid. Would it help if they met more important people or something, got a sense of them..."

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"I don't see how that would change things. Maybe."

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"I could probably arrange that if it'd help. Are you safe here, if people are mad at you..."

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"I think the greys are siding with me."

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Nod. "If you want a different planet and want to watch it being made or something they could probably do that."

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"That doesn't really get to the heart of the issue."

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Shrug.

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"But if someone wants to come meet my wife and daughter I can probably still get them to come to dinner."

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"I bet that one of Prince Nelyafinwë would enjoy himself and be helpful but I'd feel awfully presumptuous asking."

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Shrug. "You don't have to."

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"I know that. You're cool, I want things to work out okay for you."

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"I don't know what to make of it when you approve of me."

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"...cultural thing?"

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"Not really. You don't have the - psychological architecture you'd need, to understand my motivations or my reservations, it just adds up in a way you like."

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"I don't think you're cool because you decided to sign up for membership, I think you're cool because you don't do the no-exit-clause contracts and try to get everybody a kid and are scared for your citizens that we might arrest them and stuff. Those are good things. It doesn't matter if your reason is - thinking God will reward you or wanting to impress someone or wanting to spite someone or whatever else. Your people have the kids and now a planet no matter what the ...psychological architecture that made you do that."

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"All right."

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"And I think you'll trust us eventually once everything goes smoothly and you have more to model us off of."

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"I hope so."

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"I'll ask about getting someone important here to be reassuring faster than that."

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"It's probably not very important in the grand scheme of things."

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"That's...hmmm... why it'd be a credible signal?"

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Nod.

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She tells him the next day that a Prince Nelyafinwë could make a dinner at the end of the week.

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He will schedule a dinner for the end of the week, then.

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And she will glare at the rest of Yvalta. Is he taking immigrants who make it to his territory successfully?

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Yep. He has emergency transfer contracts drawn up with token obligations attached for anyone who gets to a place he can have them signed.

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He really is pretty cool.

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He arrives on time for dinner. 

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Soyok is there, and his wife, and their daughter, and her husband, and their sons, and the one son's wife. (Soyok's other child married out.)

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"Thank you so much for organizing this," he says once all of these people have been introduced. "I am the director of immigration and foreign affairs for my nation of Ambaróna, and my alt is the director of Vanda Nossëo; I know them to be delighted you are moving forward with membership."

 

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Soyok's daughter grinds her teeth.

"Thank you," murmurs Soyok.

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"We almost voted against, back when it came up for us. People felt like too many things were changing too quickly."

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"Aren't you the flagship member?" asks one of the grandsons.

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"There's an as-yet-unexplained phenomenon whereby different universes sometimes contain the same worlds - at different stages in their history, or sometimes with minor variants. We haven't found any other Amentas yet, but it would not be surprising if they existed, and if they did they might well have all of you living there. A world much like mine, with my family ruling it, was the flagship member, but my native world made contact with them later."

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"If they were just like you..."

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"Well, you know, founding Vanda Nossëo is more appealing than joining it. - and more importantly we'd just come out of a particularly awful war, some people wanted a few centuries of peace and quiet before we took on lots of new obligations."

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"If you find other Amentas what are you going to do with them?" wonders Soyok's daughter, cutting her lamb into tiny bites.

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"Well now we have lots of Amentans on the civil service track, they'll almost certainly be the best equipped to handle it."

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"You do?" asks the other grandson.

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"Yes! We put out job listings - sorted them all by caste, with the help of some local consultants, though it's legal for people to take out-of-caste work - and got lots of interested applicants. The language fluency is a pretty significant job perk, I think that contributed, and lots of people want magic, and then for any given planet there are always lots of people who want to be involved in policy and oversight, making sure their concerns get adequately represented."

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"You have such a participatory government," says Soyok's wife.

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"It seemed like a bit much to me, at first, but the thing is that different species care so intensely about such different things that you really can't have much trust in government if people don't feel like there are people involved in decisionmaking who are like them. We can say 'yes, we're taking the pollution precautions your theologians requested' as often as we want, but that's never going to be a fraction as reassuring as some Amentans on the relevant oversight committee deciding to move their families abroad. And it's the same for everybody, and there's a lot of us these days."

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"Because you obviously all think pollution is nonsense we'd forget about if you bombarded us with enough shiny objects," Soyok's daughter says.

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"Would you? Our evaluations were all 'Amentans born elsewhere would not re-derive this but the ones we've got will not give it up'. But you have exactly the general idea - aliens are different from one another, profoundly so, and scrupulous adherence to procedures we don't really care about can't possibly be as reassuring as involvement by people who do care. You can't get there just with adequate magic cleaning procedures, because people care about more than their government technically fulfilling its obligations, they want their government to agree that the obligations matter. So you've got to have representation everywhere, for everything."

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"Which means a lot of alien meddling in our affairs."

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"I'd be interested in how you think our prioritization system should have handled Amenta - you were a few thousand down the list, because the anticipation was that you wouldn't appreciate contact with people who didn't share the pollution thing. Some people have told us very emphatically that we should have been here sooner, but of course the ones who think we should have stayed away might be less likely to say so."

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"Everybody has always wanted planets. But on our terms."

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"Planets are extraordinarily expensive. We're not withholding something we can offer effortlessly in order to extract concessions, we're giving a desperately scarce thing to our own people before we give it to strangers. It's reasonable to feel we shouldn't have interacted with you at all until planets were cheap, though."

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"I went to visit that Rivikni green in prison," says Soyok's son-in-law. "They won't let her alone with her daughter."

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"Do prisons here do unsupervised visitation in murder cases?"

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"Our prisons are less nice in general, I'll give you that. But anyone here even thinking about making that call would know that if someone kills a red they're not any more dangerous to a green child."

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"The considerations in favor of supervised visitation during prison sentences for violent crimes also include deterrence and reduced risk of persuading a child to assist in escape attempts or similar."

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Blues pick at their dinners.

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He is not remotely sorry that the murderer is in prison and rather wishes she'd be there longer, so he does not comment further on that.

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"So I'm a little confused about how citizenship is going to work," says Soyok's daughter. "Blues don't have contracts quite the same way, he can't just sign on my brother like he can every runaway purple."

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"We try to be hands-off about things like that but if there's some resources of ours that would be helpful..."

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"You realize people are dying trying to cross into our House, right? But actual people getting killed, that doesn't matter."

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"Doesn't matter?  We've had to talk down your security representative from running off to rescue them six or seven times. We are not, by our laws, justified in invading Yvalta; the bar for that is extraordinarily high. We are not, by our laws, justified in arresting either the judges or the executioners killing people for wanting their freedom; the bar for that is even higher. Because historically it does not help unless we pour an amount of resources into it that could save a million lives somewhere else. Every resource I control can go ten trillion different places and we have mountains of literature for trying to guess where it will help and none of it supportive of invading sovereign post-industrial nations or taking their criminal justice systems into custody."

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"But one lousy red gets a sword to the chest..."

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"Yeah, you have the idea - the literature on arresting citizens for murders their government won't prosecute, which are a direct or indirect consequence of our presence, makes a compelling case it's a good use of our resources, not in every individual case but to have as a uniformly enforced policy. Lots of other non-member planets heard about the RIvik case and there'll be accordingly fewer cases there, in aggregate. I understand that being on the receiving end of policy decisions made at that kind of scale must be very frustrating, and we've put a lot of effort into making the procedures simple and fully explained online as soon as we make contact at all, but of course not everyone reads that - or guesses it would apply to reds. 

Someone told me once that it's approximately how distant rural farmers feel when getting the latest tax laws from the government - who are these people, who do they think they are, what unfathomable process produced this particular set of rules so divorced from the reality of the people it'll be enforced against..."

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"The contract jumpers are sure an indirect consequence of your presence."

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"...I'm not clear on whether you want an explanation of the law or if you're just observing that in this case the law is causing a lot of harm."

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"I want to know the difference between a legal shooting of a contract jumping purple and the legal stabbing of a lazy red."

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Nod. "Was there a law before we arrived which is being lawfully enforced by the usual processes of the criminal justice system - arrest, interview, execution? Does that legal system meet some minimal standards - the laws are knowable in advance, torture is not employed, evidence is introduced and considered? If so, the bar for intervention is very high. If Rivik held that it was illegal for reds to be late to work and had arrested, interviewed, and executed a red for it we wouldn't intervene beyond trying to bribe them to stop. We want to, but that kind of intervention just doesn't have the kind of track record that would justify writing our laws to permit it."

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"You sound so much less like maniacs when you lay that out. You realize this law wasn't knowable in advance to that poor green - or the less publicized grey you're also keeping -"

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"Yes. We're figuring out how it makes sense to publicize more specifically than 'we'll get involved in extrajudicial killings that occur as a consequence of our being here' and without expecting people to read the whole explanation - which is online in every Amentan language, and has been from the beginning, but which you can't expect people to acquaint themselves with."

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"At least not in such a hurry. Would it kill you to say 'this means reds'?"

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"No. We should probably have had it on the landing page in capital letters. It's unusual for people to literally believe the people they dislike are not people and even more unusual for them to expect that aliens will think the same thing, but it did become apparent very quickly and we should have rolled out public service announcements at that point."

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"Why didn't you? Trillion other things demanding your attention?"

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"No, we don't contact places at all if we can't give them the attention they deserve and guarantee the resources needed to be fair to them. The people managing contact were themselves on the teams in Tapa and Voa, both of which downplayed the extent of animosity towards reds, and the war deescalation was demanding of their attention and a much bigger problem, and they were concerned a very vocal emphatic public declaration that our law considered reds people would exacerbate fears of pollution. They were hoping it could wait until a way of cleaning them was developed, make the announcement 'reds are people with rights, and we can clean them'."

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"Rivik's an outlier. But not alien."

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"I'm glad Rivik is an outlier."

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"I just bet you are."

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"You have to agree that if they were people Rivik would be pretty upsetting."

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"Even if they were people there are so few of them."

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"Sixty five million. I've paid that much for things I wanted but it's not a small number."

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"I mean in comparison to impoverished purples or whatever, and there aren't sixty five million in Rivik in particular."

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"We've committed dramatically more resources to purple healthcare and education, for whatever that's worth. For better or for worse it makes fewer headlines. I think it's really good that you're taking refugees in," he adds to Soyok, "and if you need any support with that of course it's yours."

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"Most of them aren't making it," Soyok says. "The ones that do, soon I'll have a planet to put them on and the food aid from when you first showed up means there aren't any short term problems."

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"Are most people in contracts with no exit clause?"

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"No, but those are the ones who can't just wait."

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Nod. "We've been discouraging people from announcing their intent to resurrect people executed unjustly, lest that prompt lots of people into unwise risks, but if you recommend otherwise..."

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"It'd cheer up the ones who didn't get their families all across."

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"I can suggest they privately get in touch."

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Nod. "I realize resurrections are expensive..."

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"16.8 million ver everywhere that allows unrestricted purchases, varies widely in places that restrict to citizens, but they're never cheap. Injustices get a lot of attention, people crowdfund. We're working on expanding capacity, of course, one force keeping prices down is that people expect in ten years they'll be downright affordable. - people who are born on your colony planet will be in range of an afterlife, they won't need one, that should help Amenta out a lot."

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"In range of an afterlife," repeats a grandson slowly.

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"We can move it if there are objections but it's broadly considered a plus. Anyone who dies finds themselves there, sterile but in otherwise good health. There are people trying to do things about the infertility and there are robust surrogacy arrangements, subsidized, but I know it's far from ideal."

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"People don't usually commit suicide when they turn twenty," Soyok says.

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"I know. I think it's a good deal, I favored this location for that reason. - suicidal people are typically one of the groups vocal about their disappointment with the afterlife setup - we keep them in a coma -"

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"Because they complain?" asks granddaughter-in-law.

"No, because they don't want to be alive," says her husband.

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"If they don't want to be alive with everything medicine and magic can throw at the problem there's a place wished up in Mîr for it. Sometimes people list a series of frankly unreasonable conditions under which they'd agree to be alive and sometimes they can't think of anything. Their choice."

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"Land of the comatose depressives," murmurs son-in-law.

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"I haven't been, my species works differently. The afterlife arrangement is all right as described?"

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"I think so. If it's people born there I guess there's no way to use this territory as an opt-out."

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"Yeah, inconveniently it works off the dimension in which you are conceived and pass some early-pregnancy milestones."

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Nod.

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"We don't have that sort of thing in the advertising because it's not testable for a long time and it's not good for trust, making promises that sound unbelievable and aren't verifiable."

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"That makes sense."

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"But at this stage we would be happy to answer questions in more detail if you have them."

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"Are there people other than the suicidal who tend not to like it?"

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"It used to contain nothing except one object of great emotional significance to the deceased and what could be flung by high-speed trains through the portals that occasionally opened to the neighbors' dimension. Lots of people hated that, obviously. Now it has normal infrastructure and once some security concerns are ameliorated it will have shuttle service everywhere in the multiverse and I think those will resolve complaints that are not inherent to being indestructible and immortal."

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"Who are the neighbors?"

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So he explains daeva. Draws a little map in the air with Loki's illusion spell to explain adjacency, describes in broad terms how they're safely summoned to Revelation and how they can eventually be summoned to the colony planet - "though we're going to roll that out very slowly, it's disruptive and dangerous and I can't imagine you'd be comfortable with everybody trying it at home, which is what they do tend to do."

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"That would be a - bit much."

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Emphatic nod. "We have a team that does summoning rollouts and once you're ready to think about that they can work with you - sometimes they do things like summoning centers where people can show up and do it by flipping a switch, takes the guesswork out and reduces the risk of mistakes. They can walk you through what everyone else has decided and you can make some choices from there - but not any time soon. 

 

 - oh, incidentally, Mereth mentioned people were worried - a demon can trivially verify that no one has visited your planet since it was built around a much smaller uninhabitable and similarly untouched core a few weeks ago. You'd need someone with expertise in using conjuration for forensics, to phrase the question properly, but 'people who set foot on this planet in this time range' is a conjurable quantity, as is 'those peoples' parents and grandparents' if there had been visitors and you were trying to check if they were potentially polluted visitors."

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"So you aren't polluting it because you expect us to be able to check later?" asks Soyok's daughter.

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"We're not permitting pollution of your planet because you care about that and we care about you, as well as because our integrity and reliability with our commitments rather underpins the entire organization and accordingly has literally trillions of lives resting on it. But also you can verify it."

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She nods.

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"Amentan summoners born on the colony planet would become daeva when they die, instead of the standard afterlife. Most people consider this a strict improvement." 

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"Most?" asks Soyok's wife.

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"In Revelation it can be a problem if you die young and want to go and take up your old life again, because there are daeva escort laws. Once there's a shuttle Limbo will straightforwardly have transit to the rest of the multiverse; that can't be done with daeva, because they're dangerous. There are complaints about the daeva justice system. Don't get me wrong, it's overwhelmingly preferred now that how it works is widely known, just not universally."

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"I'll want more details once we have a summoning rollout," says Soyok.

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Nod. "I have a whole team of people who will be delighted to get you whatever details you need or want once you're in a place where that makes sense for you."

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"Do most places net positive in personnel?" Soyok wonders.

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"Eventually, yes, but it can be a long 'eventually'. Large pre-industrial illiterate populations mostly aren't yet, though some are trending in that direction. Modern societies with people who'll want jobs even once they don't need them to keep their families from starving and with expectations for professional conduct that roughly match ours are sometimes an asset from the start. In my nation it's common to fork when we're short personnel but most places don't allow that and I think we're the only ones to outright encourage it."

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"It seems like it'd complicate a personal life," says granddaughter-in-law.

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Nod. "Elves don't have children in times of strife, but it can still put a strain on marriages. There are ten of my father and only one of my mother, I don't think either of them are very happy about it."

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"Then why did he do it?"

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"They were estranged and he needed to invent something important quickly."

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"You can't, uh, merge?"

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"There are people working on it but not at present. We don't have nearly as much control over the chips that do our brain backups as we'd like, though research is careful because there's some potential for coercive use if we got good at the wrong things."

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"Good at the wrong things?" asks Soyok's daughter.

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"Inserting memories, altering them... our chips have a natural capacity that allows us to make binding commitments about our future behavior and if you could insert those you could trivially bind people to any course of action you wanted..."

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"Oh."

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"That's another one we don't explain because it's hard to verify and accordingly damaging to trust. At home it's really useful, and for distribution of powerful dangerous magic, but not so much anywhere else."

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"It does sound convenient, you could cut out a lot of enforcement details," says Soyok's wife.

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"Elves don't tolerate imprisonment well, and until we met other peoples our law enforcement consisted of 'oath not to do that again'. Cheap and perfectly effective! - which it would cease to be if we got good with editing the chips, another reason to have research on that topic very carefully contained. It can be very badly exploited, though, I wouldn't impose it on species that don't have it."

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Blues nod.

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"If any of you would like to drop by Ambaróna sometime - we don't have a regular public shuttle because the daeva aren't supposed to go wandering but the teleport building in Vanda Nossëo does private runs for anyone I tell them to expect - it's a very dense daeva-constructed city of the kind you might now be in the process of planning and I would be delighted to arrange someone to show you around and introduce you to people."

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"That sounds nice," says Soyok's wife.

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"Lovely. I will have someone get in touch to pick a time. It has been a real pleasure meeting you all."

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"Thank you for coming," Soyok says.

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"Thank you for everything you're doing, and thank you for letting us know when we can do better at it."

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Soyok's daughter restrains a comment. Soyok says, "You're welcome."

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"Is there anyone you'd like to be introduced to, or should that wait until you're not as busy at home -"

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"Like who?" wonders a grandson.

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"It seems like some recent members might be useful, to compare notes on what to expect - voting blocs I can imagine having a lot of political interests in common with you - the Orthodox Aratothalians have their own planet now and a set of stringencies surrounding food production and preparation that everyone else finds very onerous, I don't know if you have pollution oversight people who'd find it useful to exchange notes with them on compliance monitoring - or if you'd rather focus your energy at home right now, people who can get you magic and resources for that - I think sometimes people just benefit from having a sense of what an independent member planet not remotely invested in our mission and peaceably doing its own thing looks like..."

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Nods from various blues at various list items. "Someone said we had a lot in common with orcs," says granddaughter-in-law.

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"The kids. Orcs probably average ten apiece, and only stop at that point if there are enough grandbabies around to suffice instead. They build the most outrageous playgrounds full of adorable orc kids and they export such lovely children's toys. They've got themselves dozens of planets by now - we were fortunate to have more space for them before they filled up their first world. I can absolutely introduce you to some orc polities."

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Nod.

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"Anything else -"

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"You have to realize that dumping thousands of initially indistinguishable options on people all at once does not lead to fine discernment," says a grandson.

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"I can't imagine anyone could know who they want to talk to without several magic memory aids. But I can answer anything else you might have questions about, too."

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"Do we rely indefinitely on transit that answers to Vanda Nossëo?" wonders Soyok's daughter.

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"We'd be happy to start screening Valtaz teleporters, in which case you could have your own by the end of the month, though they would still be subject to fairly stringent oversight and standards of conduct - teleportation is dangerous - and to fairly unforgiving penalties for misconduct, we can't imprison them."

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"Can't unteleport them?" asks granddaughter-in-law.

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"Depends on what kind of teleporting they have. The thing Mereth has we can't take off. Some other things we can. A subtle artist can often do an action block, but not if someone happens to get or natively have magic that keeps them out."

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"Happens to?"

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"Teleportation gets wished on. Wishes are slightly unpredictable; we employ a precog to catch disastrous interactions but a wish that happened to grant people protection against external mental tampering in addition to whatever it was supposed to do wouldn't be considered a disastrous interaction."

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"Hm."

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"The materials on how to pick candidates for wished-on abilities go into more depth on procedures and accountability. They're allowed to teleport off the job, of course, and we've never sanctioned a planet by impeding their transit nor would teleporters be obliged to comply with that."

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"Purple, do you suppose?" murmurs granddaughter-in-law to her husband.

"Probably, yeah," he murmurs back.

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"I think that's how Tapa was leaning too. Some places do teleporting police, as well, so they can arrive at problems faster and take people to prison without wading into the middle of something."

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"And maybe paramedics," says the other grandson.

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"We have those at home, with healing too, they're great."

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"Sounds handy, yeah."

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"There's an anti-abortion advocacy group that's been trying to bother Amentans about switching to some kind of - preemptive system where there's something in the water or something and no one can become pregnant in the first place until they have permission. Is there someone's secretary or something to whom I should direct things in that vein..."

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"I don't know that I'd want to be the test site for that," says Soyok, "it's not like it hasn't been tried, we don't like abortions much ourselves, it's just that we have very delicate hormonal systems."

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Nod. "I don't blame you. Are you planning to keep to a permissions system, or..."

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"I'm not sure. Am I still obliged to comply with population control treaties, I'm not clear on how much preexisting diplomatic agreements disappear..."

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"Discussing that with the other new Amentan member states is probably a good idea but I can't imagine that anyone who just acquired a planet plans to keep their growth rate as low as when it was a necessity, and we would certainly protect you against retaliation for having a growth rate appropriate to your current resources - we actually don't care if you have population control at all, Mîr would always take people if you outgrew our ability to get you planets, but I understand that it seems like the height of irresponsibility to abandon them entirely without a plan to manage indefinitely."

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"A bit, yes. I'm considering - unlimited with disqualifications - it could be scaled down to the Voan system if it were ever necessary, just automatically disqualify anyone with two already."

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Nod. "And immigrants?"

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"I don't want to overwhelm our people with foreign - everything - at least not right away. Tourists, sure, we'll - see how that goes."

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"I think that's wise. Thank you very much for your time. I'll send introductions along over the next couple of days - when you submit people for teleportation you can say that I think that should get expedited review -"

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"Thank you."

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"Of course." He leaves.

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The House prepares to colonize a planet.

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"Was that a good idea?" Mareth asks him later. She's moved on to little clay sculptures; she embellishes them with pins from her hair.

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"Having the prince over? I think it helped some."

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"Oh good. They're really not horrible."

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"I think they're not used to having to explain that so much."

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"...I think most places have lots of things wrong with them but, uh, think those things are wrong. They're - compromises, they're not the whole point. So when people say 'no, not that, we'll give you whatever you want to stop doing that', they don't feel like they're being coerced with huge bribes into destroying something they care about, they feel like people are giving them lots of stuff to fix things with."

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"The thing where they figured out how to clean reds is good."

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"I can't actually figure out which things you think are bad, except for arresting people who kill reds."

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"It's - it feels degrading to construe reds as being on the same plane as clean people in importance."

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"Ah."

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"It doesn't feel like you're elevating them, that's - emotionally impossible, it just feels like a threat."

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" - if we think of you like reds then why would our promises to you mean anything, your promises to reds certainly don't..."

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"...well, we mostly leave reds alone if they do what we want."

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"That makes sense. It's horrible but it makes sense."

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Shrug.

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"I don't know how to change it."

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"Me either."