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An innocent robotics researcher's lab has been demolished, the roboticist is dead, the lab assistants range from dead to traumatized, and a pocket everything on one of the rioters shows a recent text exchange - innocent, but anything could be code.

The greys arrest the other party to the conversation.

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"One of my reds want to know about someone who got arrested."

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"One of your reds. What about them?"

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"Whether they're dead."

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"I don't know anyone -"

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"Yeah but you're in Lakla right now right Kan said you were in Lakla right now and if she's not dead yet -"

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" - are you imagining I should walk in there and demand they let her go, with what possible justification -"

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"You're the genius."

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"At knowing which battles to pick."

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"Well. The email just asked whether she was alive so you can just check whether she's alive and then your obligations will obviously be discharged."

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"If I can think of a reason I'll swing by."

 

 

He actually goes right over, once he's looked up the case and won't sound like an idiot speaking about it. Talks with Kan on the way over, makes a point of saying audibly "I just got here, I'll call you back" as he steps in. People appreciate it when you respect their time. 

He's checking in on that robotics case, heartbreaking, infuriating, if he could perhaps speak with the investigating officers at their earliest convenience...

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What, all of them?

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"Ideally whoever's following up on making sure we got 'em all but if they're busy - or showering -"

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He gets sent to a grey on the case who didn't touch anything at the scene. "What can I do for you, sir?"

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"There's going to be an internal investigation into how it leaked - there always is, and it never gets anywhere because the trash alone knows and they're all dead - I don't suppose there are any in a condition to answer questions?"

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"It came quietly, I don't think anybody did more than give it a couple thwacks, should be able if it's motivated."

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"I might have a couple, is there an arrangement such that I could pose them? - and see its face, unfortunately that's helpful to me."

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"It's in a holding booth, they're easy enough to clean we don't have a separate thing for reds."

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Nod. "That's fine. What'd this one do -"

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"Somebody looked through one of the rioter's everythings, it was talking to at least that one recently. Not 'go kill a roboticist', but like, 'how many eggs did you want' 'four' and that's the floor of the building the poor green was on..."

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"Uh huh. If it won't impede your investigation I do want to speak with it."

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"Sure. This way."

There'a a booth. It's got a barred glass window and an audio pickup.

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And that is the girl Isel asked about, yes. "Not dead yet," he'll tell her, "but not coming home," and then he'll go home himself -

- he could lie, say he wants to track who she talks to and she should be let go for that purpose but it's one more connection he has to the issue he cannot afford to touch - and later if there's reason to call his motives into question - 

- there are sixty-five million of them. 

He taps the audio pickup. "You hear me?"

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"Yes sir," comes a soft dull voice.

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"Were you informed of the crime in connection with which you've been arrested?"

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"No one has even told me what this is about, sir."

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"Yesterday Alisek Talmin assisted some co-conspirators in murdering a roboticist and most of their staff, shortly after asking you a grocery order."

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"Grocery order? - the eggs? I was making food for a dinner he was supposed to attend and needed to know how many he expected to eat."

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He squints through the glass.

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Wine-dregs hair in a low ponytail. Staring at her hands. ...springing really badly and trying not to think about it.

Lying.

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"Did they plan this with anybody else?"

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"Alisek? I don't know - he mostly hangs out with Tiskal." Who is also dead.

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"But he was going to make it to your party?"

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"It was supposed to be a potluck."

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"You have family, Shasali?"

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"My parents are alive, sir."

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"None of the murderers had any kids, it's kind of interesting."

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"Reds often move into inside jobs after they have children if possible, sir."

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"Do you have any idea how they learned where the roboticists were?"

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"No sir."

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Squint.

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She doesn't know the details but she knows who knows them.

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Well, it'd be a capital crime for anybody. Isel will not find that very reassuring. 

 

He stands up. 

 

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She looks up briefly at the noise, then back down.

 

Then, quite unaccountably, there appears a gigantic snake monster with a door-sized mirror for a face. It thrashes around finding its bearings, crashing through the booth wall, and then switchbacks around, putting red and blue both through the aperture.

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....quite unaccountably doesn't really cover it -

 

- where are they -

 

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A temperate forest with plants that are just slightly off.

 

There's not glass between him and the red anymore.

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Yeah he noticed that it's not exactly at the top of his priority list because what the fuck - 

- what's she doing -

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Also what-the-fucking at the sudden what the fuck. - noticing that he is also there.

Scrambling to her feet and backing away a few yards.

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" - please don't do that I don't have chalk on me and I doubt you do -"

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She shivers. She stops.

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"Do you have any idea what happened."

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"Nosir."

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Does he have a cell signal.

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Nope. His pocket everything is very confused.

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It's in good company. He hasn't spent enough time around trees to be confident these are weird trees but they do look it.

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The red holds very still and watches him.

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He turns his pocket everything off again and on again. He walks around a bit. 

 

"All right," he says. "Possibilities: we have been inexplicably teleported to someone's private meditative retreat and they block even emergency cell signal. We have been inexplicably teleported back in time. We have been inexplicably teleported some other place - if it's another planet we're absurdly lucky we can breathe. We have been kidnapped by aliens. Got anything I'm missing?"

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"Forward in time?" she suggests after a moment. "Incompatible signal."

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"And maybe there's forest around because we finally figured out how to season other places, sure, that could be it." Sigh. "You should calm down, I think you're slightly likelier to get out of this alive than before the inexplicable teleportation."

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She does not stop fixedly watching him.

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It was not exactly a stirring reassurance but a strong one would have been dishonest.

"If we were brought here deliberately," he says to potential alien kidnappers, "it is our custom to explain why, by who, and for how long. And there are people at home I would be grateful for the opportunity to contact with an explanation."

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The trees do not respond.

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Was a bit of a long shot.  

 

"All right," he says. "I think we should probably start walking, there can't be that much forest."

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"We," she says, "sir?"

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"If we're in someone's bizarre resort or a little bit in the past or the future, you're probably safer if you're not alone and it's not as if whoever owns this land will feel comfortable trusting that you didn't touch anything when there was no one watching, they're gonna want to cordon it off for a few rainstorms anyway. If we're in a situation stranger than that then it seems like two people are probably safer than one, do you disagree?"

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Wary watching. "No sir."

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"I stopped by because my sister-in-law asked me to, she'd gotten an email from one of your neighbors asking if you were alive and if there was anything we could do."

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"Thank you sir." Level, not quite wry.

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He sighs. He starts walking. "I'm Aitim."

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She doesn't seem to take that as a prompt for her name. She walks, carefully in his field of vision but a pace behind so he can lead.

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He knows her name, he looked it up before he went in to talk with her.

If they're on Amenta somewhere it shouldn't be that long before they find civilization.

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Well, civilization resolutely fails to appear. Shasali is surreptitiously noting the position of the sun periodically to see if he's walking in circles.

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He can manage to keep the sun on his left. How about high-altitude vantage points or power lines or places where he gets cell service, any of those?

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Nope!

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"When it's dark we'll be able to see if there are any satellites up."

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She doesn't answer.

There is the sound of a baby, crying, off thataway. Her head jerks up.

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- his too. How far thataway -

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Not very! It'd be a few blocks if this were a city.

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Hurriedly baby-wards.

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There is a baby.

She's lying between a couple of rocks set into a hillside, all alone and naked and wailing occasionally. Looks about three months old.

No belly button.

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- the fuck.

 

Hair color?

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Wispy. Navy blue? Dark purple? ...Black?

Shasali makes a whimpering noise.

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Poor baby. He picks up the baby and half-unbuttons his shirt so he can tuck the baby in - "you don't happen to be able to feed her do you -"

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"No sir."

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" - probably they leave them out if they're not permitted, I can't imagine what else - but -"

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"She doesn't have a navel."

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Nod. Rocking slowly back and forth.

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The baby paws vaguely at him and stops crying.

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Tiny tiny helpless baby dying alone in the woods. He clings. 

"We don't have diapers or food -"

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"If you're worried about being peed on -"

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He clings to the baby. "It'd be all right - she's so tiny - but it'd be silly to ask you not to touch her if she's going to need to decontaminate anyway."

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"...you can't possibly do a full decontamination on babies every time they poop in the bath or between diapers."

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"We're on a different planet, I have no idea what they consider adequate - at home you'd just wipe them off right away, but at home no one abandons babies to die of exposure."

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"If they were really worried about pollution they wouldn't have left her. - especially on a slope."

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"Well, maybe they don't care at all or maybe someone's supposed to be right by to find her."

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"This place is deserted. It doesn't even look like people hike in it."

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"Maybe they're smuggling babies out. Tapa had a problem once with the person who was supposed to kill them doing that. Or someone important's baby, if there's a war on."

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"Naked on a hill."

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"Do you have an idea?"

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"No. - sir."

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"Well. We're not going to be able to keep her alive very long if we can't find civilization."

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"Maybe there's a river to follow or something."

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Nod. 

 

Is there?

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Eventually, yes.

Shasali frowns at the water.

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"Hmmm?"

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"I'm thirsty, sir," she murmurs.

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"Is it even safe to drink from rivers?"

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"I don't know, but if it takes long enough to find civilization it will be safer than not. Especially for the baby."

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"Could boil it but that requires some other things I don't know how to do."

 

He shrugs his jacket off, dips a sleeve in the water, gives wet sleeve to the baby to suck on. "I can do that for you too and sidestep the concern of offending the locals by polluting their whole water supply but I don't actually have very many articles of clothing and they're not really of fabrics that hold a lot of water and it'd only work once per."

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Baby sucks on sleeve, after some fumbling.

"I'm looking for a big leaf or something but I don't see anything," she murmurs.

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"Water goes through all kinds of purification anyway, it's probably fine."

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She looks at him for a bit, then approaches the river and cups her hands and drinks.

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He will do the same thing upstream of her.

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And they can follow the water.

Eventually forest gives way to farmland.

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Amentans are very relieved. 

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Shasali gives the crops a berth.

There's a farmhouse in the distance.

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He pauses when they get closer. "Maybe you should take the baby in case abandoned babies aren't - supposed to be brought back - and I can go in and get food and try to figure out enough of the language to - finesse things."

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She holds out her arms mutely.

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Baby. He does not touch her while transferring baby.

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Of course not.

She cradles the baby close and hums to her and sways.

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He watches for a second and then sighs and turns around and heads farmhouse-wards.

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It's a weirdly low-tech farmhouse. There's a cat sitting on a water barrel. Crumbling mortar. Wood shingles. A chimney.

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Maybe they are in the past after all and some society since forgotten by history abandoned their babies to starve once spring ended?

 

He goes up to the door and waits for a bit before knocking.

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Nobody notices him before he knocks. When he does, a woman with brown hair answers the door. She's a little tan but not as much as one would expect from a farmer.

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"Hi," he says, presuming this to be totally noncommunicative. "We are very lost, where are we?"

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It is in fact totally noncommunicative. She looks at his hair and seems confused and replies in a different language.

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Hair-related confusion is mutual! He tries Oahkar and Tapap and Voan and Celen just in case.

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Nope!

She calls the cat over. It is not quite a cat, on inspection - it's a respectable shade of orange, but otherwise slightly different from Amentan cats. Possibly just a very different breed. She tells the cat something. The cat looks at Aitim.

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 - that means the cat is probably significantly different from a cat and not just a different breed.

 

He tries talking to the cat.

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The cat is not impressed with him saying that he is very lost. The farm woman gestures at the cat.

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"- can you tell her that I have not encountered cat-based communication before and am not sure how it works."

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Apparently the cat can't do that.

The woman sighs and tells the cat something. The cat turns around once. She tells it something slightly different, and then it turns around twice. She gestures at it again.

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 - telling the cat to do things causes the cat to do them, and the cat speaks his language? That's - disturbing, but - 

"Okay. Can you do conditionals - can you turn around in a circle if and only if brown is the most commonly occurring hair color on this planet?"

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The cat turns around in a circle. Whether this has any bearing on hair colors locally is unclear.

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"Could I have food, water, and a guide to a larger city."

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Cat looks at him.

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Sigh. He pantomimes instead.

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Eventually she points him at a well and offers him a half a loaf of bread and some cucumbers.

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He is appropriately appreciative. 

Directions to somewhere that is more populated than here?

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With a great deal of uncertainty and furrowed brow she points him in a direction.

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It is unlikely she's pointing him into the wilderness, so that's something. 

 

He heads back to Shasali with cucumbers and bread and possibly-confused directions.

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She looks at the cucumbers and bread. The baby is asleep on her shoulder.

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"Friendly brown-haired farmer, no signs they have invented electricity, they have a means of communication through giving orders to cats but I couldn't figure it out -" he describes the interaction - "I don't think they could really spare much food but she didn't seem particularly anxious to have foreign visitors with unclear demands and didn't hesitate to point me to their well." He tears the bread into a larger and smaller part, offers her the larger one.

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Shasali takes the bread and breaks it into pocket-sized amounts and a little to eat right away.

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He eats all of his and one of the cucumbers. "I solicited directions and got pointed that way. I don't think she was clear on what I wanted directions to but a city is the easiest assumption anyway. Is she just sleeping or is she unwell -"

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"I think sleeping. I might try to give her a little cucumber if I can mash it enough."

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He hands her a cucumber. "At three months they should really be breastfeeding." Sigh. "I think. I don't have kids."

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"I don't either." She wedges the cucumber in next to some bread, since the baby is currently asleep.

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"Can't afford one?"

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"I could."

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"It's not that you have mild springs."

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"No, sir." She strokes the baby's hair.

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"Worried for their future?"

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"Yes sir."

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"I'm sorry."

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She pets the baby.

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"Someone is at some point going to notice we don't have permission for the kid, and unless they do that regularly -" shiver -"'oh, we found her in the woods' will be unpersuasive."

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Shasali doesn't say anything.

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"If it's an auction and they really don't have electricity we're all set but it could just be they haven't got it all the way out here."

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"Do you know how to make a lightbulb? Fast enough to get a lot of money quickly?"

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"I think I could convince somebody quickly that they'd get more than a credit's worth of money out of having consultants who are from a society more than a hundred years more advanced."

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"You don't speak the language. Sir."

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He gestures at the pocket everything. He turned it off a while back to save the battery.

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"Maybe."

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"It's possible to learn a language in a day, I've seen someone do it. But it might not work, or might not be an auction, yes."

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She clutches the baby and purses her lips.

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"And even if they're all right with the baby, are you going to pretend to be clean forever so you can keep her?"

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"Are you going to tell them?" she murmurs.

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"Not unless in some respects they are actually a hundred years more advanced than us."

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Soft baby. Pet pet.

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He keeps walking.

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She follows.

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"You could tell them was, you know. I think that's what I'd do in your place, try to learn the language first and set the frame."

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She doesn't say anything to that.

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Reds are the only people he has met who have the talent of actually being quiet whenever it's probably not in their interests to answer. Most people can't help themselves.

Is there a train station anywhere to be seen.

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Nope!

There's a dirt road. With wagon ruts.

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He looks at it a bit despairingly. "Well. We'll be rich."

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"Yes sir."

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"If you're going to pretend you should probably stop that."

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Silence.

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Sigh. 

 

They walk. He tries to mentally reconstruct physics and engineering and the Internet.

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The baby wakes up and wails. Shasali squeezes cucumber juice into her mouth.

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Babies are supposed to get a lot more nutrition than that and they don't know how long she was out there.

"Let me know if you want me to take a turn."

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She looks skeptical.

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"Easier to believe I'd do that to everybody else? Or did you not believe me about that either?"

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"I don't know you."

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"We can trade life stories if you want. Some plumbers camped out in my office during the snowstorm but I guess they can't vouch for me. You know Isel."

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"Not personally."

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"Of her. She didn't feed you all the roboticist's location, did she? I didn't think she knew."

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"I don't know anything about that."

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He glances curiously at her. "I can't hurt you here, you know."

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"I don't know how we got here or if we'll stay here, but I don't know anything anyway."

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"I don't blame you."

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Walking. Walking.

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With a baby who is slowly starving to death on a planet that might not have invented indoor plumbing. He tries to remember if he has ever been this miserable. Maybe when the Voa thing broke. 

 

This is probably less bad than the Voa thing, it was unlikely he'd do that much good with his life.

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The baby gets most of the cucumber juice down. Shasali eats the pulp. The baby rejects tiny crumbs of bread.

A strange whirring noise presages a contraption rolling down the street towing wagonloads of grain sacks. The contraption doesn't appear manned.

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Wrong about the tech level, then - maybe they had some kind of disaster, have tech they no longer know how to make? They get out of its way.

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Shasali also notes the driverlessness. Shivers once. Doesn't comment.

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"Guess I can stop wishing that they'd find a way to get here and find us."

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"- mm?"

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"Whole planet, practically no one living here - but they have robots."

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"Yes," she says softly.

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"My wishes won't change things either way but I can't wish they'd find us, given that."

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She doesn't even bother looking overtly skeptical.

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Sigh. "May I hold her?"

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Shasali hesitates, but then holds her in his direction.

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He takes her. She's so tiny. 

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She grabs his finger. Shasali watches him like she's waiting to catch the baby if he decides to fling her into the street.

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He doesn't do that. He beams at her.

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They keep walking.

Another contraption approaches, but this one has a person on it and it's coming the other direction. He waves at them as he goes by. Brown skin, black hair.

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"Might designate caste some way other than hair color. Might not have it, I guess."

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She nods.

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"I guess we're sleeping by the side of the road."

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She looks ahead at the emptiness before them and the setting sun. "Guess so."

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"I sincerely don't think it's in your interests to murder me in my sleep but given the information available to you I think it arguably is so maybe we should talk some more before we sleep."

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"...talk about what?"

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"I don't know. I've never gotten any reds to talk to me. Isel manages, but I think she manages by doing a lot of things first."

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Nod.

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"And it's a bit late for that." He snuggles the baby. 

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"A bit."

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"Are you planning to murder me in my sleep?"

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"No."

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Snort. "All right."

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"Can I have her overnight?"

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He hands her back over. 

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Shasali cuddles the baby. She finds a reasonably cozy spot to sleep on the side of the road, baby in her arms.

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He does not sleep well but they couldn't make more progress in the night anyway.

 

There are no satellites visible in the sky.

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The stars look really incredible, though.

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Hooray.

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The next day a wagon pulled by a horse and driven by a woman trots by. They are, via pantomime, offered rides. The woman doesn't seem concerned about the baby or surprised that it's naked or anything.

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...they would be delighted to accept rides! Does she have anything for food for the baby.

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She's got water, that's all she's got that a baby can handle.

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She's not looking at them in a manner that suggests she's expecting someone to take the baby. He mentions this to Shasali. "Been wondering if they had some kind of near-extinction catastrophe. The low population density but sophisticated robots - might not have population controls at all, if they're trying to get back to the size for a real industrial civilization..."

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"But then why leave her on a hillside naked -"

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"I have no idea. 

 

We could pick a name, if we're going to get to keep her."

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"We," says Shasali.

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"I know of successful custody arrangments between people who seriously considered killing each other, it's achievable."

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"Kalatha."

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Giggle. "All right."

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Shasali pets Kalatha.

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"I know people who have a blue name picked out for their daughter. Most of them are blue, though."

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"I wasn't going to have any."

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"Yeah."

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Pet pet. Humming.

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Aitim asks their driver for her name.

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She doesn't understand the question until a considerable amount of time has been invested into gesturing but eventually points at herself and says "Witwa."

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He is so thrilled about this. "Aitim. Shasali. Kalatha."

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She seems a little puzzled about the baby having a name but boops her nose and says "Meha, Kalatha!"

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He can't tell if it's puzzled the baby has a name or puzzled by something about the name but she can pronounce it fine so maybe the former. Or maybe it's an out of caste name for whatever caste they are parsing him and Shasali as.

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And there are more farmhouses and then there's a walled city.

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walled city. "Don't think there was a disaster after all."

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"Why not?"

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"The robots still run, it can't have been that long, you can't manufacture them on this tech level. But those walls took a long time to build and only make any sense in the context of very low tech warfare."

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"...then what happened?"

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"I have absolutely no idea. Maybe there's a higher-tech civilization elsewhere which, uh, isn't conquering them because.....balance of power? Morals? It's probably not morals."

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"But why haven't they resolved the tech differential?"

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"That's not implausible to me, the thing keeping tech differentials small in our world is mostly that you'd get conquered. There might not be enough people here to actually run an industrial society - or you might need sufficiently smart people, and a small population even with the same average and variance isn't going to have anyone smart enough - or you might need resources you can't get if you have nothing to trade anyone for them."

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"But they do have robots."

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"I don't think this society could possibly make computer chips. Make something worth trading for them - don't know. Crops that take a lot of land to grow, plausibly. That could be sustainable, export crops and import robots and pocket everythings, as long as no one wanted to conquer you. ...maybe there aren't seasons here."

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"They're some kind of alien, does that even matter?"

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"I don't know. You need something like that, though, because - well, I'd conquer this place, and I have never met a war I liked."

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"To get the robots? You said you didn't want us to have robots."

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"I don't want Anitam to have robots, it'd be a disaster. If we had contact at all we'd get robots, wouldn't need a war for that. No, I'd want this place because we could keep everybody and give them two apiece and still fit an extra hundred million people."

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"It probably doesn't go on like this forever."

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"Couldn't fit that many if we happen to have just had the misfortune of walking and then riding the whole length of the country, I suppose. But it wouldn't have to go on forever."

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And here they are at the city! Witwa doesn't stop to shoo them, she proceeds through the streets.

...It's not a very clean city.

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 - yikes.

 

The people don't mind?

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Nobody seems alarmed. (Shasali wrinkles her nose and holds Kalatha closer. Kalatha has only peed on her once.)

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"Are you bothered by -"

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"...I don't know what you think our neighborhoods are like but they don't smell like this."

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He curls up unhappily in his seat. "We can't raise her here."

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Shasali nods fervently.

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"Place that makes the robots probably doesn't take immigrants - ugh -"

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"Maybe they take alien immigrants? Anitam would, just on principle - even if they were lower tech, just in case, if it were only a couple - wouldn't it?"

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"Yes - definitely -"

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"Maybe they will."

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Fervent nod. 

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Witwa pulls up in front of a four story building with a yard full of children, oddly unclumped in age. She gestures at it.

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They obediently hop out of the cart. "Thank you," he says, uncomfortably aware that his father would have become fluent over the course of the cart ride. 

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Witwa says something in her language and waves and drives off.

"Well," says Shasali. "I suppose they probably have diapers and baby food here."

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"I wonder if kids in daycare in equatorial places have different developmental progress, what with all the -" gesture at the unclumped kids playing. "I doubt they give out diapers for free - and without checking if you have a credit -"

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"Witwa dropped us off here..." Shasali says uncertainly.

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"And she really, really needs formula -" He reaches for the door.

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Inside there are more babies! None of them are younger than Kalatha but they're a wide range of older. There are more kids. There are some adults, looking after everybody. As soon as an adult spots them he holds his arms out for the baby. Shasali flinches.

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They're definitely not using hair color to communicate caste but he can't think what they're using instead. They're aliens; it could literally be something he can't see. 

 

He tries pantomiming that Kalatha needs food.

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The person seems to expect Shasali to hand over the baby, but when she doesn't, he shrugs and goes away and comes back with a bottle of milk and a cloth diaper.

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Amentans are so relieved. "Maybe they do vaccinations, maybe that's what he wanted?"

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"You don't have to be holding a baby to vaccinate it. It's easier if you're not."

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"I cannot think of any reason he'd expect us to be, uh, just dropping off the baby."

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"Maybe he figured we don't know how to put a diaper on." Shasali has tied the diaper onto the baby and is feeding her; Kalatha sucks industriously.

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"I guess there are people who don't know how to put a diaper on."

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"Not our age, surely, but... well, it's a weird low tech diaper and we're obviously foreign..."

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"Mmmhmm. Even our age, maybe, I'm not sure my husband knows that."

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"No?"

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"He's watched our cousins but not without the nanny around. Maybe I'm underestimating him - I don't know if I will get the chance to ask -"

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Nod. "I'm sorry."

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Shrug. "If we do get back Isel will tell me this was - the universe expressing that I wasn't being creative enough at finding a way to get you out."

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The guy is holding out his arms for the baby again and Shasali still won't hand her over. The guy is confused. He shrugs and gets what do appear to be primitive vaccinations and administers them while Kalatha remains in Shasali's arms working on her bottle.

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He tries to get the words for 'milk' and 'diaper'.

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He can get those!

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They would like more of those, please, for Kalatha.

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There are a whole bunch of bewildered grownups now. They're so confused.

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Probably because they don't have a credit! "...leave now with her or keep trying until the police show up -"

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"They don't have phones, they can't have good response time - we don't know where else to get milk."

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Sigh. "Milk milk milk thank you."

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They shrug and hand over another bottle.

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"Thank you! Diaper?"

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They can have a bunch of those.

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This is like less than a day of milk. "Milk milk milk please?" And to Shasali, "don't people sometimes start lactating just from having a baby trying -"

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The locals attempt to explain why they can't have more milk. It involves gesturing at an icebox. They are offered juice.

"I've maybe heard of that. I can give it a shot when she's hungry enough to try persistently."

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Well, juice is better than nothing. "Thank you!"

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This gets him the word for "you're welcome".

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"I think they can't keep more than a day's supply of milk cold because they haven't invented refrigeration, and that means neither can we."

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"We don't in fact even have an icebox."

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"Maybe we can find housing near here and get milk from whoever supplies it to them and figure out the language quickly and then find the embassy for robots place."

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"Maybe. Maybe we can come back here a lot for milk, if I can't feed her."

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Nod. 

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"Should help that it's spring." She pets the baby. "How were you thinking of finding housing?"

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"Everything in the city's going to smell like -" suppressed violent shiver - "but we can probably trade clothes for money, they're foreign and better fabrics and I think I will know if I'm being underpaid even without speaking the language."

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"I don't think clothes are optional here, we'd have to trade them for more clothes and money."

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"The jacket I expect I can get away without. More than that maybe in a day or two when we speak the language better - I really wish my family were here -"

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"I could do without my sweater but it's - secondhand - maybe a tailor could make it into something else or they won't care."

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"Or I can wear it and sell my shirt too."

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"Or that. Kalatha's peed on it."

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"Everything and everyone here is unclean and I am going to have to invent the shower but in the meantime I don't think I gain much by being fussy."

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She nods.

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"Back before we invented indoor sanitation I think child mortality was above twenty percent - we can't raise her like this -"

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"We'll have to get some place out somewhere with its own well and - commission things -"

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Nod. 

" - all right, I think we should get out of here before we're any stranger, I'll see about money..."

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"I think you're going to be better at the language than I am."

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He makes a little bit of a face. "Probably. You can take her somewhere that doesn't smell, maybe, and wait."

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"At least they don't seem to be making the walls difficult to get past."

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"Historically some places had a setup where if there were raiders coming you'd go into the walled city, close up, wait for them to leave or for your nation's army to come, go back out once they left. I guess if you see everyone going in -"

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"Right. Follow the crowd."

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"On the bright side if we managed to communicate that you are descended from undertakers I cannot imagine they'd care."

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"I'm getting that impression." She smiles faintly.

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"Take care."

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She nods and gives him her sweater and takes beverages and baby outside the city again.

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And he goes wandering for something that looks like a market and tries not to feel sick and tries to stop absently scratching his skin bloody and tries to stop twitching because it feels like something is crawling under his pant leg against his skin and

 

 - eventually - 

 

- watches the people and listens to them.

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Market!

There are robots. Some of them move in frankly bizarre ways - when still they don't look articulated and the skin doesn't look flexible. People talk to alien animals, which perform complex tasks. There are no screens anywhere but lights and shadows sometimes move independently.

Literally no one has a baby. There are some kids running around, usually in groups that don't look related with a minder, or on their own or with friends if they're older. People are with their significant others and friends - no one is hanging out with people who look related to them. No one has a belly button.

They find Aitim's hair mildly interesting but don't follow up when it transpires that he can't explain it to them. Their hair comes in black (usually) and brown and a rare mild orange and a range of weak yellows. Old people go grey. They have more sexual dimorphism than Amentans; men are taller and broader and hairier. They are quite low tech but the robots make up for some of it - robots are doing particularly repetitive labor all around, including some street cleaning, albeit to a standard Amenta would consider deeply inadequate.

The market sells robots and ice blocks and produce and street food and caged birds and books (they do seem to have the printing press) and clothes and jewelry and spices and dishes!

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Well.

 

Here is a jacket, made to exacting if foreign standards and with high-quality if alien material, which he would like to trade for currency, will one of the clothing vendors with a more eclectic collection entertain that transaction? He has about a dozen words now. "I need money, sell jacket."

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The clothing vendor clucks at his accent and peers at the jacket. Picks a burr from sleeping rough out of the back of it carefully. Lowballs him.

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Headshake. "Foreign, not child."

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Vendor snorts, adds ten percent.

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Aitim is handicapped in negotiating by not knowing any words for numbers. He shakes his head again and starts to take the jacket back.

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"Ah-ah-ah -" Vendor tries throwing in a hat.

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- he'll do a shirt.

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...okay but not that shirt this other one that is cheaper. It fits him better!, seems to be the justification, though the vendor is chattering quite fast.

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It is a shirt and will later enable him to sell his and wear something that is not a peed-on sweater so it will do. 

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The vendor will also buy his previous shirt. The first offer is still a lowball but by a narrower margin.

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Headshake. "Still not child."

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Snort. New offer and he didn't like the hat but maybe he wants socks?

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He'll do pants.

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Fiiiiine. ...the vendor will also buy his pants! He skips the lowball.

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He would, uh, need a place to change, but then sure.

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He can duck behind the stall just here.

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Aitim can wear his new shirt and pants and hand over the old ones. There are worrying scratches on both arms and both legs.

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Vendor clucks at him over that.

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Vendor could consider giving him enough money that he can arrange a living situation where everything is not literally covered in shit but he doesn't have the vocabulary for that.

 

Instead he thanks him cheerfully.

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The vendor thanks him cheerfully too! Now Aitim has local clothes and some literal coins made of metal.

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They might actually be worth the value of the metal they are made of, too. Kantil would be jumping up and down. He buys the cheapest food available which locals aren't avoiding and goes to find Shasali.

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She's sitting on a rock not far from the entrance they came in by. She's got her shirt unbuttoned and is having a mimed and confusedly multilingual argument about something with a local.

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...can he follow the argument at all?

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The local is upset about the unbuttoned shirt! Kalatha is not attempting to nurse right now, but presumably was recently.

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He walks over and puts a hand on Shasali's shoulder (....can't make anything worse...) and tells the stranger. "Foreign. Hungry child. Please go or help money."

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The foreigner has strong opinions and expresses them loudly!

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"Go, or help money."

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The foreigner considers this response completely unhelpful! And reaches for Kalatha.

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No!

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Shouting local! Crying Shasali!

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"Let's get out of here."

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She clutches the baby and nods.

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"I guess this place has a taboo on public breastfeeding but emptying your chamberpot out your window is just fine." Hurried walking. 

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"Is that what it was about? I couldn't - couldn't tell -" She buttons her shirt one-handed.

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"I am not completely sure but I think so. It's okay, I think we can afford to stay somewhere now and their precious eyes can be protected from partial nudity." He shows her the literal actual coins. "Don't ask me what the inscription says. Probably whoever's in charge."

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Shasali nods.

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"In interactions where people aren't willing to murder you for seeming worryingly agentic it's probably wiser to get out right away."

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"I didn't know what she was saying. I could rule out 'you're red and exist', but - if I could've figured it out and just solved the problem -"

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"I can try to teach you the language but it might be slow going, has some phonemes Anitami doesn't and that's hard on adult language-learners."

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She nods.

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If he also thinks statistically speaking she's probably not that smart he doesn't say so. Here are the twelve words he picked up today for clothing negotiations.

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She repeats them carefully.

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Combinations! "Foreign, not child. Child not foreign. Not shirt, pants. Shirt or money. Shirt or pants." Also he's pretty sure "blue" is such and such because people were asking about his hair, but they were just asking about his hair - "if they do caste I have no idea how they signal it. Could even be something we can't see."

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"Has anyone seemed to be drawing conclusions about yours?"

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"'Foreign' is definitely overriding whatever else it might communicate. We can see what they think once there's no accent and foreign clothes confounding it - though by then I might be green -"

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"If they don't signal caste by hair color I can't imagine it will matter what color yours grows in."

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"They could be doing something subtle - don't see in color but saturation means something, say - but I don't think so. They're also more differentiated by sex and I have no idea how the robots work or what material they're made of but it's something we don't have. They look like stone statues when they're still, but they move like whatever it is is extraordinarily flexible."

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"The animals are - something. People keep talking to them. It sounds like commands."

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"The farmer assumed I was familiar with it. I have no idea - they can also do something with light - little lights racing around everywhere - if not for the walled city I'd think maybe the animals are robots too, made replacement for people who wanted pets that weren't gross like the real thing -"

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"I am pretty sure not all the feces in there belonged to people."

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He gestures at the walled city. "Yup. Bona fide preindustrial society that inexplicably has robots and can command animals, here."

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"What are we doing for a place to stay?"

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"I'm not sure how much money is reasonable for a room somewhere but I think this'll get us through until I speak the language and can ask about where the robots come from - and perhaps about who's in charge, the local rulers might not have indoor plumbing but you can probably substitute for a lot with servants - or robot servants -"

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She doesn't even shiver this time. She nods.

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"I want to know more about the local leadership before we try that but I'm optimistic currently."

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"Why?"

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"No one dragged us off to meet them at once, they were happy to give us as much food for the baby as they could keep cold even though we were doing something highly irregular, didn't see any violence in the marketplace. Charity, unobtrusive reasonably effective law enforcement and nobody desperate to come to the favorable attention of their government are all good signs."

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"Because it means they have - spare money, rule of law, and not a permissions system?"

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"Yep. And no present pressing cause to be suspicious of foreigners, I think we'd have gotten a less friendly and more urgent reception if they were at war or anticipating it." 

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She nods. "And nobody's tried to take the baby or demanded ID. Except that one angry person but she didn't seem like she was official."

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"That they wouldn't check that is a bit bizarre, really, but maybe they're just presuming our nation of origin will hold us responsible."

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"Maybe. Do they seem to have a guess about where we're from?"

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"I got asked a couple things that might have been placenames and people tried a couple other languages, but not confident guesses. I assume people tried robots-exporter and we are slightly more mysterious for not speaking that one."

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"Can you tell if this city self-governs or if it's part of a larger country?"

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"If there's a larger country I do not think it exercises a lot of day-to-day authority but I can't imagine cities managing without some kind of structure within which they'd negotiate population. I guess maybe if robots-exporter is enforcing you wouldn't have lots of city-states trying to sneak things past each other."

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She nods. "What is it most useful for me to do besides look after Kalatha while you pick up the language?"

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"Do you know things about plumbing?"

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"Probably more than you but I've never worked as a plumber."

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"You probably also know more than me about stretching a food supply...do reds have better coping mechanisms for everything being constantly unclean or are you just mostly hyposensitive..."

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"We don't mind each other at all. Plumbers get used to plumbing but it's not appealing - I think we might be hyposensitive to bodies but I'm not sure whether everyone would be if it weren't for acculturation or if there's separate mechanisms and that's one we've bred for enough - garbage smells and may contain unexpected sharp objects so one has to be careful with it but it's just garbage, you've been in rooms with garbage in them if not for long."

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"Everyone might be if it weren't for acculturation, I think there were primitive societies that held that touching someone just-dead was fine. We mostly have disposal chutes for garbage."

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"Not for long," she repeats, "but nothing magic happens to it except it gets all mixed up. Our collectors give rebates to some businesses who dispose of things separately so there's not kitchen grease on the remaindered clothes or water damage to the electronics; those things are unobjectionable."

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He worries a scratched arm. "Uh huh."

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She looks at his arm. "You're not making it any less likely that you actually get some ghastly infection."

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"I am well aware of that."

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"Maybe their diseases can't affect us," she says dubiously.

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"Wouldn't count on it."

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"If you get me paper I think I can draw up diagrams of basic plumbing structures. Elaborate pumps and water treatment probably need more technology than they have unless they can import robot pumps."

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Nod. "I can get you paper."

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"I'll apparently need somewhere private if I'm going to try to be able to feed Kalatha, is that next -"

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"Yeah, let's go find an inn - preferably somewhere that smells a bit less - and figure out how many nights we can get with this money."

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There is a more regularly robot-cleaned area of the city that smells less! They can get two nights including two meals a day if they share a one-bed room. Everyone is confused about the baby.

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This is mildly worrying! They can share a one-bed room. "Maybe you could find out if you can pay our board by helping with cleaning and chores and so on."

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"I don't have a sling for the baby and I don't think I can turn my sweater into one."

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"I can take her out with me language-learning sometimes."

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Reluctant nod.

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"I'm not going to run off with her."

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"I don't expect you to. It's hard to put her down."

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Nod. "I think blues don't spring as badly, on average."

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"I've heard that."

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Sigh.

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She pets the baby. The baby yawns and nuzzles her. She offers the juice; the milk is all gone. The baby drinks juice.

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"I'm going to go back out and work on the language."

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"Do you want to bring her so I can sweep or whatever here -"

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"Why don't I try to ask at the front if that's an option and if it is then yes."

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Shasali nods.

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More nights, no money, Shasali help cleaning cooking?

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Yeah, okay, they can have an extra night if she helps the scullery.

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Then Aitim will take the baby and go back out to the market to watch people.

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Everyone is so confused that he has a baby.

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But they had babies of all ages in the daycare so it can't just be that it's the wrong season. Her name is Kalatha and she is so tiny and the only thing in the world that is good.

 

 

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Nobody seriously objects to him having a baby, they just think it's strange.

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That's fine. 

 

He tries to pick up more words and notice more things about the locals.

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None of them have babies. Or are pregnant. They don't seem upset about that; even the heterosexual couples are engrossed in shopping and conversation and things. There's a dance performance in the square; nothing about the dancers is markedly similar. There's a cop. The cop has a robot with him. There are animals people don't talk to and control in a more conventional manner - trained but merely trained dogs; flock of ducks herded through the streets. They seem based on how their visible aging works and the population statistics like they might age faster and die younger than Amentans; there's a higher ratio of obviously-old to look-under-twenty. They don't have very good dental care.

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He watches them. He picks up another dozen words. He takes Kalatha back to the inn with him.

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Shasali's scrubbing tables. "Hi."

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"Hi." New vocabulary - "people", "baby", "why", the name of the city, the names of two dozen people he talked to, the local word for the robots (it's "servant"), "dancer", "hair", "night", "morning". 

"None of them have kids. There are kids about but none of them have them."

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"...no one, at all? That's... what is this, some kind of - even adopted kids?"

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"No one pregnant, no one with kids with them - I don't know what it is. If they looked upset and if there weren't a daycare full of babies right there I'd say maybe they're not allowed to issue credits for three years, that'd fit, but they don't seem to care and there is a daycare full of babies - if we did that there'd be a line eight blocks around just to see them -"

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"Whose babies are they?"

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"I have no idea! - maybe when it gets to be summer most people just - stop caring at all - but how could you -"

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"And they - bother to put them in daycare - or whatever that place is -"

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"Well you do have to keep the species going. Maybe no one's conquered them because no one needs the space."

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"And Kalatha - someone just lost interest, set her down rather than carry her -" She looks sick.

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"And they thought we were dropping her off at the daycare - the driver of the cart we rode on thought it was odd we had named her -"

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Shasali holds out her arms for the baby.

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Baby. He's not careful about not touching Shasali.

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She snuggles the baby and kisses her head. "It's okay, little lovely, we got you," she coos.

"Aaaa," says Kalatha.

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"We can adopt a hundred if we want, doubt the daycare would mind."

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"Once we have somewhere with running water."

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"I suppose robots-exporter probably has a more mature way of arranging it - a place for you to take the kids - or maybe not, maybe you don't want to try too hard to get everyone to take them to a daycare because then you would have population growth -"

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"Do they pick them up again the next spring? You said nobody has kids. But they were all different ages at the daycare -"

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"They were. No one is currently pregnant, and no one currently has a kid with them, but the daycare they were spread out like this place is equatorial - maybe springs are longer, maybe one just concluded but most of those kids were born this spring - or maybe they don't permaspring -

- if they do permaspring you'd think some people would prefer - prefer continuing to care about their kids -"

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"This doesn't make any sense."

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"I noticed!"

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"And even if you were going to abandon a baby shouldn't she have been wearing a diaper, they've invented those -"

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"Maybe the parent wanted to save it to sew into a pillowcase because these people are terrible."

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"Even if - even if you didn't care, it would have taken so little effort to - they can't have been expecting us to come along and want her, why hadn't they killed her outright, instead of just leaving her there to die slowly - were they expecting her to be raised by sapient antelopes or whatever insane thing -"

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"Could be a religion? Primitive people had all kinds of strange religions, animal sacrifices and so on -"

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"Maybe..."

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"You're right that it doesn't make any sense but I can't think what could possibly make sense of it."

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"Maybe it is the sapient animal thing, there's something going on with the animals."

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Sigh. "I'm going to get some sleep, knowing the language won't hurt."

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"Are we all three going to share the bed?"

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"There's only the one, right? I suppose we could sleep in shifts."

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"One of us could put a pillow on the floor."

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"If you want you can put a pillow on the floor."

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"I want to hold Kalatha and I want her on the bed, I'm not sure how to navigate you."

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"I'm not going to sleep on the floor when we don't know when we'll next have a bed. If you want to hold Kalatha then you should sleep on the bed too."

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She nods. She puts the scrub rag away.

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They can go to their preindustrial alien hotel room.

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It's better than sleeping on the side of the road, especially since it rains that night. Kalatha's a mediocre sleeper but they can get a few hours in despite many instances of Shasali getting up and pacing till she'll consent to sleep again.

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It's actually easier in some ways to sleep with a baby right there. Helps with the missing his husband. He thinks he might be getting used to Shasali touching things. 

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In the morning Shasali helps the innkeeper make breakfast and then they get to eat breakfast. Shasali teaches him some words she picked up in the kitchen.

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Words are good. Maybe soon they'll have enough to ask some of their questions. 

 

He goes out and listens to people some more. Practices sentences until they mostly stick.

Stops by the daycare to ask if they are hiring. "Pay people watch babies?"

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"Oh, yes, there's an application - can you read -"

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"Not read the common."

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"I can give you the application aloud." And she does - wants name, address, creche of upbringing, references.

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"Creche of upbringing?"

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"Yes, where were you raised -? It wasn't this one, I've been here long enough to know."

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"Foreign, no creche of upbringing."

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Blink. "I think they have creches abroad."

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"Not abroad. More foreign. Anitam."

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"What do they do in Anitam?"

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"People want babies. People want babies so much."

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"...for what?"

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....is there a baby around so he can demonstrate.

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Bunches. There's a just shy of toddler one tugging on his pant leg.

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Holding them up in the air and beaming at them! Counting their tiny tiny toes! Blowing air in their faces so they giggle and giggle! Kissing their tummies! Dangling them upside down which for some reason delights them! Snuggling them close and not feeling utterly bereft and empty! This is what Amentans want babies for.

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The creche worker scrawls something in the empty fields on the application and says he's hired.

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"Thank you! Also Shasali is from Anitam."

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"Does she want to work here too?"

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"Yes."

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The worker fills out a form with her information as well and says they can start right away if they like.

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He goes to fetch Shasali and inform her that she is employed. 

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"Where?"

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"They're called creches, apparently, the place where they abandon the kids - seemed more your thing than cleaning tables."

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"Quite. And I suppose there won't be any trouble about having Kalatha there."

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"You might have to again clarify that you'll be taking her home at the end of the day but otherwise no."

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"I hope they don't decide to fire us for favoritism or something."

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"I really just need a week and then we have a lot more options."

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She nods.

They work at the creche. They can get their first day's pay after the first day, if he asks. There are babies! And small children! And older children, but those spend significant amounts of time out elsewhere and there are fewer of them in any given age group. They can find out why - someone comes and interviews a few kids who look maybe two and takes one home with her.

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"People here want kids again when they are older, can work?"

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"Apprentices," someone explains. "They help with work and learn stuff."

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"Any kid learn any job if they seem smart and can learn?"

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"Well, sure, what else would we do?"

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"Anitam learn things you can see in babies that go with things you can learn as grownups, teach kids the things they look like they will be good at."

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"Huh. What things that you can see in babies?"

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"In Anitam hair color go with things you can learn."

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"But you're both working here."

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"We are both wrong color working here! Thing I am good at hard when poor language. Learn more language, then do thing I learned as kid to do. Shasali maybe still do this. Hair not perfect. Very good, much more good than guess, but sometimes kid good at two things. Shasali good at babies and red thing."

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"What's the red thing?"

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"Not know words. People baby, young, old, then -"

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"...then they die?"

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"Die people, taking away, red job. In Anitam most people will very sick, touch die people. Reds not, so red job."

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"Huh. That doesn't seem like it'd need much of the language either."

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"People here not sick if touch die people, so not help to be red. Red not better at die people than people here, better than Anitami not-reds as Anitami not-reds sick."

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"What's blue for?"

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"Law and roads and rule and war and peace and planning."

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"Huh."

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"In Anitam I go to other places and talk trade and peace and things I not have words for. If stayed in Anitam some day maybe rule. - people say yes or no, if they want you to rule -"

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"You're a democracy? We've got a queen here."

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"Queen is -"

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"She doesn't have to do voting on things."

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Nodnod. "Anitam was that but - war sometimes when not sure next queen, or when bad queen. Democracy, not wars."

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"I think democracies have wars."

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"I need more words. Democracies wars, queens more wars, more bad wars. Do queens here put children in creches?"

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"Huh? I guess she might if she went hiking."

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"...if she went hiking?"

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"And found one?"

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"It is often find babies hiking? We found Kalatha hiking but thought not normal."

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"Oh, you don't find one every time. And sometimes they're dead."

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"Why leave babies to dead instead bring to creche?"

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"...huh? If you find one you do bring it in."

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"...why are there babies to find in first place."

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"...they just happen."

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" - confused."

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"Don't you have babies in Anitam?"

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"In Anitam people want babies much. They buy right to have a baby. Then they have the baby. Then they keep the baby. At no point is the baby in the woods for hikers."

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"Then where do you get them?"

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"...you have them."

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"...but where do you get them?"

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"Uh. Word for the thing Shasali and Awiki and Kemi are, that you and I no -"

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"We're men and they're women? What does that have to do with anything?"

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"To have a baby a men and a women sleep together. Then the woman has a very small baby and it grows here." Gesture.

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"...are you saying there's a foreign country where people breed like animals?"

"Ew!" says a nearby kid.

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"...people are animals."

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"No we aren't!"

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" - okay. Well. In Anitam yes, that is how babies. Here babies appear in the country and maybe die?"

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"Yeah - wow, that's gross, remind me not to hook up with Shasali -"

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"Doubt that would work that way and spring almost over but okay."

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"Spring?"

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"Only can have babies in spring."

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"I think this is all I want to learn about weird breedy people."

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"How many babies die?"

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"No idea. Fewer since stork golems started flying around."

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"Stork golems?"

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"If you work here longer you'll see 'em, these days most of the babies are from them. They go find 'em and fly 'em to creches."

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"That's good."

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"Nobody knows who invented them, it's weird."

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"Do they know in the country that makes the robots?"

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"...everybody makes servants. I mean, every country."

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"...how?"

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"They get an apprenticeship for it and learn how?"

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"Anitam no golems, and Anitam -" he glances at Shasali - "trying to golems for a long time with many people. As far as we know, golems really hard. Harder than lots of things Anitam yes, harder than talk to everyone in the world at once, harder than save people who lose both legs and build them new ones, harder than put all books in the world on metal that fits in your pocket, harder than teach that metal all the languages in the world."

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"...I think you're pulling my leg about all this," concludes his co-worker.

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"Someone can teach me golems?"

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"You're kinda old for an apprenticeship."

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Aitim pulls out his pocket everything and turns it on and sets it to playing something of Makel's.

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People peer at it. Kids dance.

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He realizes he will be unable to communicate his relationship to the singer. "This a thing Anitam has. But not golems."

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"That thing isn't a fancy golem with shines on it?"

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"No. Very hard to build, takes many things Atwa not have. I think Anitam no golems."

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"It sure looks like a fancy golem with shines on it."

"It'd have to be super fancy, it's so small."

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"Golems harder to do small?"

 

Music off, now it's a photo album. Mostly of pictures of his twin little brothers.

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"Yeah - ooh -"

"I've heard of talking golems but the shines on that are really something -"

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"What is making golems like, what sort of things do you need to know to do it."

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"You gotta learn programming and how to make the bodies for 'em. And how to wake 'em up."

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"What goes into - waking them up?"

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"Magic?"

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"New word. Don't know."

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"I dunno, I'm not a servantmaker."

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...nod.

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Shrug.

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He catches Shasali when she gets back from walking a baby down to sleep.

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"What?"

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"There's no robot-exporting country. They carve statues and then animate them. How? They don't know. The babies randomly appear on hillsides. Why? They don't know!"

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"- are you kidding me?"

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"No!!! Pregnancy is for animals, the reason they don't care about the kids is because they aren't their kids, and they don't spring -"

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"...I've seen some of them kissing, they must do something like springing -"

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"They might spring for sex but not babies but none of them are fertile and the concept of a season being different didn't make sense to them -"

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"Babies just appear?????"

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"Naked! In the woods!"

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"What the shit?"

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"I have no idea!"

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"That's - that's - aaaagh!"

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Hug?

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"Don't wake Chalrew," she says, stepping back.

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Snort. "There are robots that go out looking for them. I'm going to figure out why robots aren't mass-produced."

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"Makes sense."

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"Also, since it seems like the whole planet is actually preindustrial, I'm going to find someone who should have electricity explained to them, get enough money to buy up a lot of land somewhere that's a good site for a city given that trains exist and not otherwise, invent mass-production of robots, build a city with adequate sanitation, figure out who's doing the storks and how to get all the kids that way, and try to have a kingdom and the internet back before I'm thirty."

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"Does this involve living in an individual house with adequate sanitation sometime before that or -"

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"Yes, of course, that first."

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"Okay, good." She pets Chalrew. "Poor babies.

I guess we can have as many as we want."

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"They'll have to adopt, though, or risk kids with full siblings..."

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"- I didn't mean - I mean, if they just appear, we can take home as many as we want."

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"Oh, yes, that we can do. Too many at a time and we're not doing anything different than a creche, but one or two every spring easily."

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Nod nod nod.

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"If we season properly here. Alien planet, who knows."

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"We probably won't. But it won't be so bad if there's always a baby or two."

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Sigh.

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She gently puts Chalrew down and this time he stays asleep.

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Aitim picks up a children's book and starts trying to learn to read.

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A child helps him.

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He's appreciative. 

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When they have accumulated money by earning slightly more each day than their hotel costs, they can get recommendations for longer-term housing. There's a boarding house; they can't really afford an entire house to themselves yet.

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He is basically suppressing all preferences about his environment until he can get somewhere with a shower. Boarding house will do. He starts looking for people who should know about electricity.

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What are his criteria for that?

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Remind him of his dad! ...more usefully, have the resources to do experiments and some inventions to their name already.

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There are servantmakers; this type of person seems to typically go into servantmaking.

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...servantmaking is yellow and the thing he is looking for green but sure, he will talk to one.

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This servantmaker specializes in shine programming and has invented a method to precisely measure distances along long overland stretches to send shines unsupervised down them.

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That's probably green. Aitim brings by the pocket everything.

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The servantmaker is enthralled by the pocket everything!

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And Aitim can explain that the society he's from created lots and lots of things like it, they're cheap, and he wants to introduce them here but needs someone who can figure out what's tractable given the current technology base and also work from vague specifications because Aitim's society has a lot of specialization and this is not his specialty.

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This servantmaker doesn't know where to start on the hardware unless Aitim can tell him about more primitive versions, but the software might be adaptable into servant form?

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He can tell him about more primitive versions! The most primitive thing that runs on electricity is a lightbulb; they are like so. Generators use magnets and often a watermill or coal or something to spin it but maybe you could do that part with servants.

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Oh yeah, spinning things is really easy. Magnets aren't easy to find but he can try to hunt some up. Why did Aitim leave his fantastical country?

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"We have no idea what happened. There was some kind of - bewildering phenomenon that looked a bit like an alien animal and a wildly swinging portal - and then here I and one other citizen of my world found ourselves. I don't think my society has the means to come and find us, though I know they'll throw everything they can at it."

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"That sounds terrible." And like bullshit, but, pocket everything...

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Nod. "The people in the creche where we found employment thought that this could maybe be done with shines and enough care. Is there a way to confirm it wasn't?"

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"I could try to pull a shine off, but if it's an important shine then your device is broken."

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"I am very, very confident that my device does not run on shines."

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"I'd want witnesses just in case so you don't go around claiming I busted your thing."

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"That seems like a good idea anyway; it will stop working eventually and I would like lots of people to have witnessed that it did work so they can understand why I want to replace it."

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"Why will it stop?"

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"It runs on a fuel I don't know how to make."

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"Can you make it run on automata?"

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"I don't think so. I don't know much about automata but everything in it is very tiny and complicated and there are only a few people in my world who understand all of it."

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"Well, I can round up some people to watch me try to yank a shine and maybe try it themselves."

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"Thanks so much. I'll look forward to it."

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He sends for Aitim a couple days later.

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Aitim still has a pocket everything with 52% battery.

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And a bunch of people try to confiscate its shines, and fail. Although one does put it close to a table and pull off a complex shine that is a blurry copy of one of his photographs.

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"Oh, you can get a reflection? That's clever. Anitam doesn't have shines, we invented this instead. I am not sure we would have invented this if we'd had shines, but it can be copied much more easily once it can be done, and that's useful when there are lots of people."

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"There's gonna be more with the storks storking around."

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"If the rate of baby drops scales with the existing population then you're going to have a problem with space eventually. Anitam has that problem and we can prevent it by stopping babies from being born. Here, that wouldn't work."

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"Maybe whoever controls the storks could tell them to back off."

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"Or the storks could kill some babies. Slow starvation in the wilderness is a bad way to die."

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Nobody looks really comfortable with that.

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Because it is horrible. "Are there any ideas on how to track down the person who made the storks?"

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"We tried - they're really brilliant -"

"They've been caught and examined, but they don't have a signature or anything."

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"It'd be usual to leave a signature?"

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"If you wanted people to find you."

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"Mmhmm. Does anyone keep population statistics for the whole world?"

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"Nah - shine code's not that good yet."

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"What does the current setup for using shines to represent characters look like - how many shines per character -" For some reason he anxiously tugs at his hair as he asks this; the roots are coming in green.

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"We don't have a setup that sophisticated yet - I think Wrebb and Lapis have that -"

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"What's needed to make that happen, is it theory or resources or time..."

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"Uh, buy-in from whoever we'd be connecting to and servantmaker time. And if we want it really fancy, lenses and colored glass."

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Nod. "Ah, are there countries in the world that have invented indoor plumbing?"

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"I think they have that in Lapis."

"Maybe Wrebb too by now."

"Seems like a lot of hassle."

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Twitch. "Thanks so much for taking a look at this. I've written up everything I remember about the history of electronics, if you'd like to see if you can get anywhere with it."

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"That sounds lovely! Shines are all right for some lighting but they don't really cast light the way a - bulb would -"

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"Yeah, bulbs can go brighter, and you can do just enough with shines that I can see how you might not bother with early electronics but once you get good with it it can do things like go to the Moon, and do much faster communications, and the pictures are nice."

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"They are!"

"Do you want shines of any of these in particular since you said it stops working?"

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" - that would be great, actually." Family photo, with tiny wriggling twins and no Telkam. Picture of his husband. Picture of Lina.

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Servantmakers pull shines from the everything and put them on paper for him.

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And Aitim turns his pocket everything off again. "Thank you."

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"You're welcome!"

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He goes home.

"So," he says to Shasali, "I have a fun dilemma for you."

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"...by fun do you mean fun?"

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"No."

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"What is it?"

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"Population was about stable before the storks. Now it seems to be increasing, because the infant death rate is lower. There are two possibilities. One is that a million babies randomly appear every year, and that once we have the technological capacity all million babies will get rescued and the population will be stable at whatever level that implies. Two is that random baby drops scale with the present population."

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"It could be something else. Fixed quantity of babies, or the drops scale inversely but not enough to counteract storks, or someone's controlling it, or the servants run on the souls of dead babies - this place is bizarre -"

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"You don't say. There are apparently places with indoor plumbing; I think we should move there and try really hard to get good statistics on baby drops, because it matters a lot if it scales."

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"- better do it soon before we're more attached to the creche babies."

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"Don't know how much it costs. As soon as we can afford it, yeah."

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"How much it costs to travel? We hitchhiked here, maybe we could do it again... they probably have creches there too."

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"I'll look how far they are."

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She nods.

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He looks into that, and into local governments.

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Most places here are city-states. Some villages and farms fall under the province of city-states nearby; some don't. Lapis and Wrebb are the nearest rich democracies; Wrebb is closer, although still a hike.

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And how much to sit on someone's automaton going there?

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If they don't care when they leave they can do that for not very much.

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Do they have to give notice at the creche?

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It'd be polite.

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"I think we do that, go to Wrebb, see if I know more than them about text compression, work in the creche until we're making enough off other projects."

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Shasali nods.

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Leaving the other babies probably bothers her more than Aitim. Aitim is going to fix up the world they'll grow up in, from somewhere with indoor plumbing thank you very much, and he has his baby and will only miss other babies a bit.

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She looks very tempted to bring along one of the little boys but doesn't say anything.

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Then they can hop an automaton with just Kalatha.

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The automaton is not particularly comfortable but it does the job.

Wrebb is much cleaner! It looks richer in general, but still preindustrial.

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Much cleaner is great! Is there a creche at which they can apply for employment.

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Several! Most places have at least two. Wrebb has five.

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He has a distinct accent still but can speak in complete sentences. "We just arrived here. Are you hiring?"

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"What position do you have in mind?"

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"We'd like to work with younger kids, if that's an option."

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"You're not the kind of person who likes to read them stories and won't change diapers, right?"

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" - that's really bad for them, they get rashes."

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"Yeah, but some people only want to do the fun parts and it's a problem."

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"I promise to be very responsible with children in my care."

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"Okay. What's with the one your girlfriend's holding?"

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"Where we're from, people like babies more and they raise them at home instead of in creches. Though some people take them to a creche during the day so they can work."

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"Huh. Seems like you wouldn't sleep much."

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"I think it's been harder on Shasali."

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"You're a sound sleeper?"

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"And don't mind as intensely if she's crying."

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"Well, if you wanna keep one in your house, more power to you. You can bring her to work. We've got jobs for both of you if you take night shift, it's never popular, I can take one of you for the day shift and refer you to another creche for the other job if you don't want to be up in the dark."

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"No, that's fine." Higher stress-related mortality in the statistical aggregate but he was never really planning on a stress-free life.

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And they are shown the ropes and given an introduction to the creche policies and shown the back stairs up to the roof where they can collect storked children and shown how to summon a medical golem and so on.

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And can they afford a house with indoor plumbing?

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Not right away, but they can sleep in the creche while they save up and look for deals.

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Aitim is very unhappy but it helps to have a plan to make things better. 

 

Are there greens in Wrebb who should see a pocket everything and get a meticulously hand-copied copy of his recollection of engineering?

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There aren't exactly greens. But there are engineers!

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He means the personality type more than the caste. (His roots are green and long enough it's obviously a different color than the rest of his hair.)

 

 

Hi, Wrebb engineers! Here is an implausible story, a pocket everything, and an explanation of electricity and mechanics and evolution-at-least-as-it-worked-in-Amenta-who-knows-about-this-place.

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The evolution story seems consistent with how animals seem to work. Obviously people are different. The pocket everything is amazing!

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Yeah! Why don't they have a stab at lightbulbs and then anyone who pulls lightbulbs off successfully can buy the things that come after lightbulbs from Aitim with the money they make from lightbulbs.

 

It's a lot of steps from lightbulbs to pocket everythings but most of them are useful in their own right.

 

Also, how do they send messages with shines, exactly?

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Shines can be programmed to go certain distances and then do things! They can be different colors. Here is a chart of code. Shines go from one shine message station to another and then line up to be read.

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Yes, the thing he is interested in is the chart of code, Amentans put lots of thought into a related problem and it might be useful. How many shines represent each character? How many characters are there to represent?

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Two shines per character. The common has 31 letters and they also have numerals and punctuation, though it's conventional to save time and shines and therefore money to omit and abbreviate a lot.

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Aitim is pretty sure someone with relevant experience could improve this a lot but he can't! Are there automata that can read the shines into messages or do people have to do that? How fast do shines travel?

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Automata don't have senses, he's thinking of a golem. There could be a golem that did that but they don't have one. Shines go really fast! Really really fast.

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At the speed of light?

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Well, they're light. So that seems reasonable.

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It's actually kind of important for the long term when they want to start colonizing other planets whether it's at the speed of light or not.

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Well, how would they tell?

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Can you send shines to the sun or get shines from the sun or anything like that? Or the moon?

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Shines have to go along surfaces.

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In that case it matters significantly less whether they go the speed of light or not. 

 

Aitim encourages everybody to let him know if they get lightbulbs working and want more.

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Eventually somebody has a lightbulb.

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Aitim has been spending his free time scouting for soaps that smell nice and continuing to periodically worry off the outer layer of his skin and smiling at cute babies. They are still springing. They might just be stuck that way.

 

He writes with congratulations on the lightbulb. Here's how you'd scale them.

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Lightbulbs!!

There are pleasantly scented soaps and there's running cold water in the creche and a little automaton that does friction-based heating for small amounts of hot water. There is even a laundry automaton.

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Aitim spends most of his time taking showers with nice-smelling soaps. 

 

Heaters should be easy with electricity, he thinks you just run a lot of it through something with a high enough melting point it won't get messed up.

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In a while they figure that out.

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Then he'll take hot showers. When he has assembled a series of soaps that he likes he will set up a laundry automaton to put all of his clothes through that and he will occasionally give Kalatha long baths with soaps that smell nice and then sit wrapped in fresh-dried sheets with her and sing her Anitami songs.

(Aitim does not remember how sewing machines work; he's pretty sure there's a trick to it, rather than it being a machine sewing the way a person would sew).

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Kalatha does not like baths.

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Does getting used to playing with water help? Does she like to try to eat the soaps? Is there a water temperature that is more fun?

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She eats a soap and is SO UPSET. She can put up with short baths but then she is done.

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That is probably within the normal range of variance even for Amentan babies and these people also clearly all have something wrong with them. Kalatha will obviously have baths that are a length she finds acceptable as often as she will tolerate them.

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She will put up with five minute baths as often as he feels like setting them up.

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He tries to mostly do this when Shasali is out and about but Shasali does not leave Kalatha much at all. Baby will be as clean as she can be.

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Storks sometimes bring babies in. Babies of various shades of beige and brown with this limited local range of hair colors. Babies who've been out in the woods way too long and need a lot of careful hydration and feeding; healthy just-appeared babies.

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Poor babies. They will get careful care. 


Does anyone have statistics on the rate of baby appearances over time?

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Well, there's more now, but that could just be storks.

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Yeah, that's not the thing he's interested in. Are babies evenly distributed? Do they know if any land in the ocean?

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They don't think any land in the ocean because they don't wash up on the shore but it's hard to be sure. They seem to appear in wilderness areas more often, though sometimes on farms; virtually never in a town.

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...so maybe when the whole place is populated the appearance rate will slow, or maybe the farms will be full of them.

 

Does anyone want to buy notes on railroads.

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Oh, they have those as an idea, but they're expensive to implement and it's not that much harder to come up with servants that can traverse regular roads.

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Yes, the ideal trial location would be between two places that don't already have a road between them, because they're not more expensive to implement or maintain than building a road in the first place and they're a lot faster and easier to scale up for more traffic.

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...roads are lots cheaper.

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...they really shouldn't be. Laying new roads involves moving a lot more earth than laying new rails. What are they doing exactly?

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Tromping along till there is a path. Removing rocks. You have to do that for rail too. Metal's expensive.

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...so the roads are all just dirt with the possible addition of wagon ruts? And impassable every time it rains?

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Well, in towns they put cobblestones, as he has seen, but between cities it's mostly earth, yes. They're not impassable in the rain.

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...does this continent just not get that much rain? Railroads are vastly more efficient and cheaper than dirt roads and he's unsure what factors are different making this non-obvious.

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They're not sure where he's getting his information. They get rain on a regular basis.

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Two hundred other countries that industrialized. If anything, he'd expect it to work better here, because you don't need coal to run the trains, while road-going automata seem comparable in up-front cost and maintenance costs to mules which graze along the way. It's possible metal is vastly scarcer here, but mining is another thing they should be better at, what with it automatable. ...is mining largely automated?

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No.

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Aitim tries to figure out who to talk to about automating mining. 

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Some servantmakers are working on it. It's just hard. Not the sort of thing automata are good at, and golems take more dev time.

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He knows approximately nothing about metalworking. He's also not sure if you can use anything other than metal for railroad rails. Fine, what about some chemists who can check whether Amenta and this place have the same elements and chemistry?

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How would he like the comparison made exactly?

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So these are the elements in Amenta; you can tell by purifying them and checking their relative weights, and maybe there are other ways of checking he can't think of.

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That's interesting, is he a chemist? They aren't very advanced in chemistry but they'll look. No obvious contradictions.

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He is not a chemist and knows very little chemistry, but luckily basic science classes you take when you're three cover all of the elements and a bunch of molecules and various details about why they exhibit the periodicity they in fact exhibit when you chart them. It's about electrons. He can probably advance the field a couple centuries but he can't actually think how to get anything practically useful out of it.

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The chemists are delighted anyway.

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That part's fun. 

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They can afford a house now! With plumbing!

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Aitim splits his time evenly between work, showering, and meeting people who do research things; he barely sleeps. 

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Shasali works. She does two shifts, most days; she can bring Kalatha along and sleeps better when she's exhausted.

She acquires a local boyfriend.

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He arranges for his shifts to overlap less with hers and observes quietly at some point that probably they're not interfertile with the locals but the locals would be horrified if they were wrong about that.

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"I don't think he'd consider himself to have the slightest reason to be interested in the proceedings if I did get pregnant," she says.

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"Danru specifically said he was glad to know we, ah, 'breed like animals' because he would otherwise have considered hooking up with you, so - just make sure he doesn't feel that way."

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"I did."

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Nod.

 

 

He talks to people about uses of electricity for cooling rather than heating. He has vague ideas about radio. He has less vague ideas about water purification.

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They don't get anywhere fast on cooling or radio. They investigate water purification.

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How expensive is metal, do they, in fact, seem to have a lot less of it or are they worse at something else? (This is complicated by his not knowing much about early Amentan metal production.) Do they have sundials and heliocentrism and things? (Presuming that this planet in fact orbits its sun?)

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They have metal, they're just not as good at mining as Amentans are. Unclear if they're as good as Amentans were. They don't visibly use sundials but people have heard of them; they use shine clocks. They orbit the sun.

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Well, if they didn't it wouldn't be weirder than appearing babies.

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Nobody here thinks that's weird.

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This has not escaped him. 

 

He should probably just learn servantmaking himself rather than try to find someone in the right intersection of trustworthy and capable for the assembly-line project but he does not want to learn servantmaking, he wants to find somebody. He keeps looking.

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Wrebb is large enough to have multiple servantmakers. Some take apprentices; this one has a houseful.

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He's reasonably confident he could sort little local kids for trustworthiness (not perfectly confident, kids change a lot, but reasonably so); he definitely can't sort them for aptitude. He publishes some more chemistry and biology notes - cells and molecules and circuits and so on - and wracks his brain for interesting algorithms problems that he probably overheard discussed at dinner years ago. 

 

When he comes up with some he distributes them in housefuls of servantmakers, with a note announcing that there's a substantial monetary prize. You have a golem that can pick up rocks, one at a time, and determine their weight. How would you instruct it to proceed in order to end up with the fourth largest rock as quickly as possible?

 

Prime numbers are numbers that cannot be divided evenly by any whole numbers; 2, 3, 5, 7, 11, 13... Come up with a set of instructions so following the instructions produces prime numbers. What is the 10,001st prime number?

 

And so on. They are more computing problems than servantmaking problems but he's skimmed enough books to be confident you could solve them with the servantmaking kind of program-writing if you were very motivated.

...might be hard for them to be that motivated. He picks up extra shifts, doubles the monetary prize.

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He gets a letter. What's this for?

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I have some hard problems. I'm not smart enough to solve them, but I know some people who would be and I vaguely remember what they talked about at the dinner table.

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...math problems?

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No. But in my homeland ability to write programs that solve math problems is a prerequisite for writing programs that solve other kinds of problems.

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It's pretty niche here.

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Well, it is supposed to filter. 

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Is what problems you have that aren't math a secret?

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Most are either secret or ridiculous enough to scare people off.

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I'm not hurting for money at the moment and this would take time away from other ambitious projects. What's a ridiculous one?

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Long-term if it turns out that drop rate of babies scales with population of this planet, I want to build moon arcologies. Those require a kind of fuel conventionally mined deep underground, which is convenient because I'm also working on mining from another angle because I need metal to be cheaper for railroads.

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"Conventionally"?

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I'm not from here.

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Where are you from?

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I've been rendering it 'Anitam'. Our moons have arcologies. I've been. People find the reduced gravity soothing. I think it's recommended for certain kinds of back pain.

There are thirteen billion of us.

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The letter-writer swings by in person.

"Huh," he says. "I'd heard you had green hair but it's more startling in person."

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"I've been told it's greener than people were expecting. Haven't actually looked myself. Nice to meet you, I'm Aitim."

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"Kib. Thirteen billion green haired people?"

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"About ten percent green-haired at last count. You all look like low-budget television aliens."

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"What's television?"

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"You build a complicated piece of machinery that records at each point on its surface a few attributes of the light striking that point on the surface, enough attributes that you can reconstruct a picture that looks exactly like what you would see if you'd been standing where the machinery was. You do this thirty-two times per second, which is fast enough that if you show people the pictures in quick succession it will look like they're seeing something moving smoothly, instead of a series of steps. You come up with numbers corresponding to all of this information, convey the numbers in a special format you've built other machinery to read, and reconstruct the image elsewhere, so people everywhere in the world can watch something happening in one place as if they were there themselves."

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"Ooh."

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"I am told it transformed politics but that was before my time. We've had it for more than two hundred local years."

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"Where do cheap aliens come in?"

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"It gets used for storytelling! Like theatre, but you can have several recording-machines in different places, lets you cut between scenes or just emphasize different things in a conversation between two people. You can manipulate the images after you record them, so you get special effects. And if you want to convey that someone is an alien, but don't have the money for a nice costume or elaborate prosthetics, brown or black hair. There you are, alien."

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"...and sign language, or did you skip a bit?"

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"You can send audio also but I know even less about how that is done."

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"There's an elaborate shine calculator in Abdia but I don't speak the language and I'm worried feeding it your prime number problem will break it and it took six years to make and I'm not sure I'm six years curious about what your deal is. I think the way you wrote the rock puzzle suggests you don't know how golems work. I took a stab at one of the others -" He hands over a sheet of paper.

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He looks at it. "What would you feed it for the prime numbers?"

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"I'd have to talk to its owner about how many contingent operations it can handle."

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"What an interesting limit for a computing machine to have. - I'm really the wrong person to be here, see, you want my father. I know the outlines of things but none of the details."

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"Your -"

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Sigh. "Anitam is different from here in a lot of ways. One of those ways is that babies do not appear at complete random on hillsides naked."

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"Do adults appear at predictable intervals in valleys wearing hats?"

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"No. We have offspring the same way as all species have offspring."

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"So you're saying you're a talking animal."

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"I cannot figure out how humans came about but all species on Amenta evolved from a common ancestor with no magic involved at any points."

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"Huh."

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"We'd find your arrangement distressing for lots of reasons but one of them is that when you're producing the next generation on purpose you can tinker with their numbers and genes to get the traits you want."

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"Like... breeding animals?"

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"Yes. The numbers part is actually the more important part, though. I'm very worried that things we do might affect the rate of baby drops and that this might be hard to notice until we've got much better global communications."

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"You could find some area owned and routinely canvassed by a small number of people - grazing area, probably, somebody who's always up and down it with goats and finds a baby once a month - see if they get more."

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"Only conclusive if it changes on small enough timescales and the - baby distribution - stays uniform, probably worth doing anyway.

 

The reason this matters is because if saving every baby means more of them drop, then at some point I have to switch to killing them and I'd rather kill a hundred thousand a year than a hundred million."

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"Don't you want to live on the moon and stuff?"

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"If the babies dropped scales with the population here but not the population on the moon then we can get enough people on the moon that we don't have to kill any babies. I want to have the option so we can check before any of these choices get unavoidable."

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"Is there a specific reason you think drops might scale that way?"

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"Non-magically-appearing populations grow at a rate related to the existing population of that species."

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"...I suppose that's a reason. There are more storks, incidentally, someone's making new ones."

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"Stork-making person has very very good reason to be anonymous but I want to talk with them."

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"I don't think they're reporting back or you could just attach a letter. I've asked around but I can't find anyone who admits to knowing who they are. I've considered reinventing them but having two stork networks isn't as good as one twice the size."

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Aitim bites his lip and looks at him consideringly.

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"...what?"

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"Whoever's directing the storks has them take the kids to the nearest creche. If they wanted to, they could instead have storks take the kids to the nearest creche they are on good terms with, or back to their own creche in their own city, or kill the kids for population control....one advantage to several stork networks over one is that no one can singlehandedly choke a kingdom out of existence. I think the storkmakers are trying very hard to look like they won't use their power that way, but it cannot have escaped them that they have it."

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"I think that's why they're anonymous. In case someone else wants storks used like that."

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"That would be a good reason to be anonymous, but so would 'planning to start doing that once you have enough storks'."

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"I suppose... the reason you want one stork network in the ideal case is they can communicate, if there's new creches or they've already covered an area recently or something."

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"I'd much rather talk with them than supplant them. But if they're not findable I think the case for a separate stork network is pretty strong."

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"If it hasn't occurred to anyone yet that storks could decide to be against slavery or what have you, competing networks might do it."

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"How would people tell that there were competing networks?"

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"If the storks act different in any way, or don't interact when they run into each other. Also if the new network don't have identical chassis because there's a different provider of some material or something."

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"The manufacturers could have changed the chassis for availability reasons themselves."

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"Yeah. It'd still have people looking to see if they check in with each other."

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"Do you have an angle on finding the creator?"

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"Follow a stork or several around with another golem. They may sometimes go home for repairs or instructions."

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"Seems useful."

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"It wouldn't be that hard to accost a stork. If they stopped serving some city, but continued to take babies from nearby, it'd be possible to snatch them out of the sky. And if they didn't take babies from nearby there's the old fashioned method."

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"They're not how I'd take over the world. But I don't think the risk is trivial."

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"I don't think they're how any talented servantmaker takes over the world."

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"How would you take over the world?"

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"I don't tell just anybody how I'd take over the world."

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"Fellow in my world had a go at taking over the world by announcing that if you submitted he'd just impose mildly onerous population laws but if you didn't and he fought you and won he'd line everyone up and kill every third person in line. Lots of countries decided not to take their chances. Some did, and lost. He had several billion subjects. Then one of his kids decided the whole thing was spiraling out of control and had him shot."

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"Yikes."

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"I don't think much of efforts to rule the world except by making the nicest place in it and giving people a way to get there."

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"Is that your plan?"

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"Yes."

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"Nice work if you can get it."

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He pulls out the pocket everything, which is at 17% battery when he turns it on. "Here, play with this. You can try to take a shine off, it's not made of shines."

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"I heard about this thing, somebody who had my same teacher was one of the people fucking with it." He pokes around. "It could still be a tiny golem and tiny lightbulbs."

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"The servantmaker who could do that would've taken over the world too."

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"Not everybody's interested in taking over the world, for some reason."

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"Perhaps they'd merely be outrageously rich and widely known."

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"That one I'll grant you."

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"People in our world live twice as long. I don't know how strongly that's local medicine and sanitation and how much it's just a species difference, but if any of it is the sanitation and medicine..."

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"Vaccinations are recent, we don't yet know how much they help with the upper end. They took a bite out of child mortality though."

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"In our history the fall in child mortality preceded a very turbulent time, but maybe babies won't start to scale up and things will be better here."

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Kib nods.

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"The technical problems I'm looking for people to work on are assembly lines, metal mining, and public transit."

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"Why public transit?"

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"It might be too early for it to be profitable in itself but if it exists then other things can get organized around it and it's a pain to do right if everything's built up around not having it and it contributes a lot to freedom of movement."

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"Between cities, in them, or both?"

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"Between cities I want railroads and that might have to wait on getting better at mining. Within cities is really important once you have actual cities, which, uh, you don't, yet."

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"You caught us, it's made of canvas and paint."

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"The designation where I'm from is that under a million is a village and under ten million is a town."

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"Seriously?"

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"Yep. ...well, if the city boundaries are themselves, like, seven million for historical reasons but the metropolitan area is fifteen million that counts."

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"Metropolitan area?"

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"Walls stop being a good way to designate the boundaries of cities once people invent good ways of breaking them down. In, say, Lateli, you have a little island in the middle of a river, which is the city proper and only has nine million people living there, but then you have areas on both riverbanks that are fifteen minutes' or less travel from downtown and which it makes sense to administer as part of the Lateli metropolitan area. - we do more governing than your governments tend to, how to designate places for the purpose of administering them is an important problem at home. I don't think that one's a straight advantage, and I'm not in a particular hurry to get it here."

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"Do you just - stack everybody on top of each other in huge towers -"

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"Yes, we do." He pulls up a picture of Lina on his pocket everything. The buildings are not the focus of the picture but they're there incidentally in the background.

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"Wow."

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"Cities are good for people. Living close to your friends, close to your family, close to people you might want to date, close to work, with enough kinds of work in the same place that you can change as often as you want without disrupting your whole life. There are places that were bad at cities and they lost to the places that were good at them, because cities are important. But it would be a bad idea to do that here if babies scale with your population - I wasn't kidding about potentially having to kill a hundred million of them a year, that's smaller than the number of births my world has to prevent every year to keep the population stable."

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"...how do you estimate how many births you're preventing?"

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"Survey people on what they would do if not for population controls. Since we have births the non-magic-appearance-on-hilltop way."

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"Fair enough. If you think they tell the truth on surveys, maybe you have a way to do that."

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"I'm not a statistician but I think they're pretty good at arriving at real estimates from surveys which individually have various shortcomings. I also don't think people would lie about that especially."

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Nod. "I mean, if it's like animals it's probably rough to just... not get married for a long time? Avoid your spouse till you're allowed?"

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" - oh, no, we have a way of preventing it when we don't have permission."

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"...a non-abstinence way? Then what's the problem?"

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" - we want children. Very very badly - I don't know if there's anything humans experience which is comparable..."

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"...why do you want children?"

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"I really do not think it can be explained to people who don't experience it. Why do you want food when you're hungry, why do you want water when you're thirsty, why do you want company when you've been alone with no one to talk to for months and months..."

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"Well, the first two if you don't get them they'll kill you. I guess the company one might be a good analogy, although I might be too introverted to really get it."

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"Amentans want children badly enough that most people will work under unacceptably terrible conditions for about twenty local years if that is the best way to get permission to have a child and consider this wholly worth it in retrospect."

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"What the fuck."

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"Like I said, I really don't think it can be explained to people who don't experience it."

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"Okay. Well. We don't have this psychological malady and can do whatever seems sensible for minimizing starving babies in the wilderness once we have any statistics about that."

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"And mining metal is really really important regardless, even if it does not make sense for you all to have cities."

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"I don't know enough about mining to have a great angle on that without either totally changing my research priorities or just going ahead with 'talking golem' so they can just go learn from miners."

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"What is a talking golem particularly useful for?"

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"A lot of golems can understand instructions but it's pretty limited. One that can talk can clarify how it's understanding its commands and it requires enough underlying complexity that it can be a good generalist - if you're making a good generalist you might as well let it talk."

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"Could it learn to mine as easily as a person, or not really?"

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"Easier, probably, it won't be creative but it can have a perfect memory. And golems are strong."

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"That sounds like a good project. How far out is it?"

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"Years."

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"A specific number of those? Is there a way to make it faster?"

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"Depends on some reading I have yet to do and how much other stuff I have to do to support myself in the meantime."

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"I'll cover expenses."

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"I didn't even solve all your math problems."

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"I think this is plausibly a good investment. If someone sweeps in who solved them all and can have a mining robot by the end of the month if I give them money, we can talk."

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"I do need to know if the money's good enough that I can move out of my teacher's place; as long as I'm there I'm expected to help with the rugrats."

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"I will talk with my roommate about what we can afford and get back to you on that tomorrow, how's that."

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"Sure."

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He tells his roommate he's found someone who might be able to invent mining who had some good ideas for looking into baby drop rates.

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"That's good."

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"I want to fund it. What does our budget look like? Is your boyfriend likely to move in and help with bills?"

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"I could inquire but it hasn't come up yet on its own. We're comfortably making rent and groceries and water, although we'd be more comfortably making water if you took a reasonable number of baths. There's some extra, I don't know how much funding this calls for..."

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"Enough that someone who takes fewer baths than me could live on it - that's not you, incidentally, it's all of the everything."

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"Live here or live alone?"

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"Could we squeeze in another person? I, uh, had six bedrooms and an interior courtyard at home, I might have poor instincts about how many people reasonably live in places."

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"We don't have another room, but you and I could just sleep in shifts more formally than we already do. Kalatha should have one but not necessarily soon, we could move at that point."

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"I can run it by him." He beams at Kalatha. "What age do you think she should have one -"

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"When she's - four or five in local years, I think -"

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"She'll probably have a sibling or two by then."

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"It's possible to co-sleep with a set of twins."

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"I know, my parents had twins last spring. Two sounds good, especially if you're going to be as possessive of them as you are of her."

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"They do have houses with a lot of bedrooms here reasonably affordably. For professionals with apprentices." She shakes her head.

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"I'm glad they're the way they are, imagine trying to impose population controls on a pre-industrial society that wasn't completely insane."

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"They're not at the point of needing them. I suppose they might be if they weren't randomly-appearing-people."

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"They have vaccines. I think they'd be at that point, if they weren't randomly-appearing - and it's better to start early, get people accustomed when it's something like four-apiece and then scale down, rather than have a bunch of awful wars with tens of millions of people routinely slaughtered and then impose them from scratch. If we'd landed on a pre-industrial Amenta I'd be trying to think how to pull it off. But it'd be horrible."

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"They don't even like children. The people who work at the creche like them more than anyone and they think we're bizarre."

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"My candidate for mining robots, Kib, was very sympathetic about population controls until I clarified that the problem was not that you had to avoid sex lest you have a child, at which point he was completely baffled."

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Shasali kisses Kalatha's head.

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Beautiful good soft baby. "I miss everybody so much."

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"I like it here."

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"Anitam may have treated us differently."

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"Seems plausible."

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He figures out how much money they can manage and writes Kib with the sum and the offer of a shared room.

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I have no idea if you're good roommates.

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We're going to be accumulating lots of children eventually, but not until Kalatha's bigger. We're not clean by Anitami standards but by local standards we are very, very clean.

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Kalatha? Will I have to be very very clean too?

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Kalatha is the baby we found and adopted. Unless you are an unusually messy person I expect it'd be fine.

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I think I'm all right. Can I see the house? Does the baby scream at night?

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I sleep on a different shift than Kalatha, you could do that also. She does cry at night sometimes, though she's growing out of it. And an address.

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And Kib shows up.

"It's not that I blame her for hollering at night, I'm told I talk in my sleep at assorted indecorous volumes, but it was one of the things that annoyed me about the creche when I was still little, there was never any quiet."

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"In Anitam it's common for new parents to have their parents around, and siblings, and a nanny, to help with a new baby. Doing it with just two people is actually quite exhausting, though more than rewarding enough to make up for it."

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"Am I going to be roped into baby assistance?"

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"What? No. Shasali barely even lets me alone with her, she's definitely not going to be pressing her on strangers."

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"Good. Four and up they can be cute but I sort of don't see the point any younger than that. Which room would I be living in?"

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He shows him the house. It is a small house but has indoor plumbing and a busily-chugging-away water heater.

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Kib inspects the house. "Yeah, all right. I'll want two weeks' notice before you kick me out if it doesn't work out."

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Nod. "Are there tenants' rights laws here?"

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"I'd have to look it up. I'm not going to get involved in an elaborate legal battle if you boot me without notice, the two weeks is for convenience."

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"Oh, it's very reasonable and we'll abide by it, it just prompted abstract curiosity about the legal state of affairs. At home they'd drill us on it in school."

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"Seems an odd subject to focus on."

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"We had very specialized schools. Remember the thing about breeding people? We bred them for different things and then had schools for the thing each subgroup would be good at."

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"That's so fucking weird. Ah yes, these are the people bred to have tasty seeds and those are the people bred to like herding sheep..."

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"Athletic ability, intelligence and creativity, conscientiousness and detail-orientedness, restraint and good judgment, hardworkingness, social and emotional skills. I have a - friend - who thinks it's a very stupid system and we'd be better off if we got rid of it but people get very proud of their community."

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"Which one are you?"

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"Blue is land development, governance, diplomacy, the courts system - the 'restraint and good judgment' set."

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"What about your roommate?"

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"Shasali is part of a class of people that our government has been systemically terrorizing for centuries because they are believed to be inherently unclean."

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"Uh."

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"I know."

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"Well, tell her welcome to here for me, I guess, if you see her before I do."

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"It was very well-timed, they were probably going to kill her. I think she considers all of you a vast improvement, even with your baffling disinterest in babies."

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"I mean, if she wants 'em, no one's going to object to her hogging them or whatever."

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"We've been expecting that at some point the authorities might stop by to make sure we're not doing anything weird to the babies."

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"I suppose there's that, once they make it to civilization people frown on mistreating them."

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"Some places at home do audits for parenting fitness. Anitam does not, though we sterilize people who break the law."

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"And those are the people who were peeing on the furniture and had to be fixed. Gotcha."

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Shiver. "No one does anything that horrible. Do you have any idea how there started being people on this planet?"

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"Not a clue."

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"It just doesn't make any sense."

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"I mean, it's mysterious, but so is 'why is there something rather than nothing'."

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"Physicists have some good theories on that one! They do not explain random appearing babies!"

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"Not my field."

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"Mine neither. I've been wishing you got my father."

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"It is really disconcerting when you use animal breeding terms to refer to yourself."

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"Your silly language doesn't have words with the right shade of meaning at all. The people who raised me would be better suited to helping improve standards of living in this world, and less sorely needed back in ours."

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"Pity. Well, welcome anyhow."

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"The stars are breathtaking. And I've liked all the people."

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"You don't have stars?"

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"Can't see them at night, the city's too bright. We had a place up in the mountains but even there it was brighter than here."

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"That's a pity. Maybe we should leave somewhere dark for stargazing."

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"Shines don't seem to cast light in the same way as electric lights to, you could have an island or something that's all shine-lit - or we might end up deciding to maintain at this population density, in which case it will never be a problem at all."

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Nod.

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"I'll go pack."

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"I'll look forward to working with you."

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And Kib goes and comes back with a walking golem chair carrying him and all his stuff.

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And Aitim passes on to Shasali that Kib says welcome.

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"I feel very welcome," she says.

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Aitim goes and bothers goatherds and farmers about baby drop rates.

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Goatherds and farmers are generally willing to tell him how many babies they have found, but cannot vouch for exactness on timing.

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He barely remembers any statistics and doesn't think he can reconstruct it. He diligently notes it all anyway.

 

Have they invented gears, gears are useful. How about steel.

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They have gears and steel.

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Aitim brings the numbers home and tries drawing graphs.

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There are maybe more babies now? Maybe?

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He shows it to Shasali. "Should I not involve you in this topic, is it too upsetting."

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"In the abstract it's not intolerable."

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"If the number of babies scales with the population then it seems unwise to rescue them all until this world reaches its magic- and technology-aided carrying capacity."

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She nods.

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"As a general principle, if increasing the population would be bad, it's a bit odd to conclude it's at the exact right level presently; maybe a gradual slight decrease is the best thing."

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"I don't think they're at a point where increasing the population is bad yet."

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"No?"

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"No. They're not having trouble taking care of the kids, they're not having wars over space, there are people who need social services but not people with jobs going hungry or homeless. There's maybe one really big city's worth of people on the entire planet. They might not be desperate for children but there are other benefits to density and numbers."

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"They could probably end up with a society where no one needs to work, once they learn how to automate more things. And more people might help with that, real cities - the Internet - but if the babies scale with the population, and we decide to try to stabilize at a hundred million, we're killing a lot more kids than if we try to stabilize lower than that."

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"How are you going to find out for sure if it does that or not without letting the population go up?"

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"The population is currently going up. I'm not going to try to design competing death storks now - we'll have more information in a year."

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"A local year?"

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"Probably?" He squints at his graphs. "It might be conclusive in a year. Or - conclusive enough that at that point death stork designs are a good idea, even if I'm not confident we'd end up using them."

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"- Eugenics per se aren't a factor but it may matter that some of the babies come in dehydrated and injured and hungry and some are found sooner. But it stops being as much about preventing them from suffering if they selectively kill the ones who are already almost dead."

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"That does affect life outcomes for Amentans, yeah. I wonder if you could get stork coverage up high enough that it doesn't come up at all - I wish there was a way to contact the stork-makers..."

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"Why are they hiding?"

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"Presumably so someone can't use the rather extraordinary leverage that placing all the babies in the world gives you."

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"Not all of them. There aren't so many storks that they found Kalatha first."

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"They're releasing them faster than they break down, I assume 'all of them' is the eventual goal. It's - a really good goal, if only the appearance rates turn out to stay steady."

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"If it scaled with population does this suggest how much growth rate - even Amenta allows a growth rate -"

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"I forget most of my statistics, I took a look through the textbook and decided I'd hire people for that, but I don't think we can guess from this. We allow a growth rate because we're not actually at carrying capacity, we'd have had to stop eventually."

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She nods.

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"If people on other planets and moons and so forth don't count we can keep the population planetside that replaces the whole civilization and arrange for most people to live on the moon and in space stations. But I'm not sure we can get that far in my lifetime."

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"How old are you?"

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"Twelve. Space is hard and they might not be as smart on average, without any selection for it."

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"Unless the babies' traits adjust the way you think number does."

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"That'd be weirder, suggest a mechanism tracking which people are the most would-be-reproductively-successful and giving them more children even though they have no interest in children. Can't rule it out, given how weird everything is, but I'm not sure what it'd even mean for it to be true. 

They do obviously have smart people but, well, everyone knows eugenic effects are pretty weak over short timescales."

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"Not necessarily reproductively successful, just alive."

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" - sure, but that wouldn't be correlated with intelligence."

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"It would if they get into stupid childhood accidents or fights. There are fewer safeties on things here."

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" - I guess weakly correlated. Most kids who die die of disease, though, and they evidently have not pseudo-evolved a sanitation instinct."

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"They don't have the technology for it. They do prefer being clean, they bathe, they just don't do it four times a day."

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"Amentans at a comparable tech level were putting much more of our resources into it. I'm, uh, glad they didn't take the specific tack on it we did, but the most desperate Amentan in the world wouldn't tolerate conditions that they seem unbothered by."

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"The most desperate clean Amentan."

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"We've been selecting reds for hyposensitivity - among other things - and the first city bothered you too. But people still live there, even though indoor plumbing has been invented and they could leave, and they're not desperately saving up to install it either."

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"I'm not a plumber and I know germ theory, which seems new here. People get used to things."

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"I still think if there were selection pressure they'd have more of a pollution instinct."

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"We don't know exactly how long they've existed and there may not have been much of one to work with in the starting population either."

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"Maybe. Anyway, I don't think I can get them to modern technology in my lifetime."

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"Even with servants to cheat?"

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"Depends how hard we can cheat. Supply chains have a lot of inputs. Kib's working on a generalist servant. I guess if it's general enough, and we can assembly-line it - it'd be nice consolation, if we could leave this world a post-scarcity paradise except for the necessary infanticide to keep it that way."

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"And they don't seem poised to murder anyone as soon as they have the technology."

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He flinches.

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She looks at him levelly.

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"It's still happening and now we're here and can't do anything."

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"I wasn't going to survive anyway."

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"I know."

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"You said Isel sent you to see if I was alive but you got more involved than that."

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"She wanted me to get you out if I could. I - couldn't think of a way but it was worth trying more than 'not at all' - and I was legitimately curious who fed you the information, because if it's Isel she's not careful enough and it's going to torpedo the efforts through legitimate channels when she gets caught and if it's someone sufficiently disconnected from the political efforts, well, there are other things they should maybe learn about."

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"It wasn't her."

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"Yeah, I gathered that. 

 

 

We had a plan. It was a long shot anyway but it stood a chance and they can't do it without me."

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She winces.

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"What was it?"

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"Gonna argue you could clean people with something in the vein of chemotherapy."

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"And then what?"

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"And then get everybody to agree not to boycott or invade us for trying it and keep a stranglehold on the press to tamp hysteria down - we were delayed several years by that blithering idiot - and privately fund 'cleaning' a couple people and let them go about living their lives and once it was past the point where people could reasonably panic, once they'd been touching things for a year and lots of people knew them, do more - we could by more or less liquidating all the assets my family possesses have done sixty, maybe, but once people were out they could save up for other people, and there are bleeding-hearts who'd care, and even if no one wanted clean reds afterwards they could live in the equator and people could set up factories there."

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She nods tightly.

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"But I was - I worked in foreign affairs that whole side of it was mine, I had angles on most of the people we'd need to persuade and I didn't write things down because they weren't safe things to have written down and - it probably wouldn't have worked but -"

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"I hope you're wrong, I hope they didn't need you."

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"Me too!"

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She goes to give Kalatha lunch.

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He takes a bath.

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Kib settles in. He works on his golem design.

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The Constantly Spring starts eating at Aitim but he has no idea how to find locals for something with the parameters implied by 'springtime hookups'. He continues to write up industrialization concepts as he remembers or is able to reconstruct them. He bothers more people about babies. He tries to calculate things about early Amentan metal mining. He does all their shopping just so he can talk to the vendors. 

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"Is he always like this?" Kib asks Shasali once.

"I didn't know him before we arrived here," she says.

"I'm exhausted by proxy."

"You can ignore him."

"I can try, I guess."

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He tries to spend an hour a day talking to Kalatha in each of Anitami, Tapap, Voan, Oahkar and Celen, which occupies much of his time with her. He writes history books as best as he can remember them (he remembers them a lot better than the science). He finds people who don't speak the common and tries to coax them to teach him what they do speak. He endeavors to diagram a bicycle.

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He can learn various languages. The bicycle is neat, although it would be complicated enough to produce on this manufacturing base that it's not much of an advantage over servants.

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Mopey green-haired springing Amentan will continue to socialize with everything in sight and occasionally write up notes, in that case.

 

"I may not be able to keep up," he says to Kib, "but I'd love to hear about progress on versatile servants."

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"Sure. Where do you want me to start, do you have any background?"

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"Read some books while I was trying to figure out what it changed and whether assembly lines were as straightforward as they sound, but I can't say it all made sense to me. Maybe assume I know ...more than the kids who are this high, less than the kids who are this high?" Gesturing.

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"Sure, but servantmaker apprentice kids yea high or farm kids or what?"

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"Servantmaker apprentice kids."

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"Okay. So here's my project outline." He lays out a few sheets of paper with a cross between a chart and a mindmap. "I'm working on this part because it's not so experimental that it's likely to benefit from a book published in the next five years but it's also not so pedestrian that I can guess very exactly how long it'll take and consider it a given when working on other sections -"

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He has an attentive audience who only occasionally tugs irritably at his own hair. "Am I right that assembly lines are reasonably tractable given lots of money for startup costs?"

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"Oh, yeah, you'd just need to make a bunch of sturdy complicated automata. They can do the etching and even simple construction."

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"Oh good. This hasn't been done because it wouldn't be profitable?"

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"It'd be profitable, it'd just take a lot of startup capital. It's also not especially interesting? Like, it's not 'pet five million birds', but it's not theoretically complex or creative or anything."

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"I guess you are a lot less motivated than us by making tons of money. Is there something that could be accomplished by petting five million birds?"

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"You sell the birds. People like having them."

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"...and can't pet them themselves?"

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"You do have to learn how to do that. Or to puppet articulated chassis or shines."

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"I seem unable to learn. I think perhaps you have to be a local magically-appearing person. Or just local, no real way to tell the difference."

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"That might be. It'd explain why you don't have any servantmaking where you're from."

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"Yeah. I'm curious whether servants made here would work in my world or whether servantmakers that travelled there would be magic, but I can't imagine there are a lot of those snakes about to experiment with."

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"The snakes thing is really bizarre. Like, I'd be less weirded out by 'magic pond, swim to bottom and come out in a different pond' or something. A snake?"

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"A pond would be great, there'd be prospects of going back! I assumed initially that the snakes were the native form of some aliens who had kidnapped Shasali and I to watch us fight to the death or have kids."

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"...are you going to do either of those things?"

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"I like Shasali but wouldn't have blamed her from trying to murder me. ...we'd probably have kids if we couldn't adopt as many babies as we wanted but we can, so."

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"Yup. Help yourselves, they're free."

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"We're probably going to get two once Kalatha stops being a baby. Because Shasali is very possessive of them and I want to hold one too."

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Snort. "She has two hands."

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"Yes but morally speaking I do not think her claim to a second baby is stronger than my claim to a first baby."

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"Do you not get turns with Kalatha?"

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"I do. She's stopped looking worried I will throw her across the room, even! But we'll both be happier with two. Springtime is rough under the best of circumstances and these really are not those."

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"...why would you throw a baby across the room, and also it's autumn."

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"We do not seem to have seasoned properly in this place and so our hormonal systems beg to differ and are probably just going to continue to be wrong about that forever. I might have thrown the baby because Shasali had touched her and Shasali's red.'

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"...uh."

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" - sorry, I don't mean 'it would be defensible', I mean 'it would be unsurprising'."

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"To whom?"

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"Amentans! Who would be baffled that I let her touch the baby in the first place. Our planet is deeply fucked up about this, in a way that is really hard to fix, and knowing it's not real doesn't really undo it at all."

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"But even though you let her touch the baby she was worried you'd throw her?"

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"What it feels like, thinking about touching something a red touched or realizing they touched something, is - like realizing that the hair you just brushed out of your eye was actually spiders and also your shirt is made of spiders and everything is made of spiders. Even if I was evidently trying to - be friendly - I might've still had the visceral reaction."

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"Uh. Congratulations on not flinging Spiderbaby."

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...giggle. "People who interact with reds enough get acclimated."

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"Is it really just the hair that does it? She could pour henna on her head till it came out some other color."

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"It's not the hair, the hair's just an indicator."

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"What is it then?"

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"Uh, the belief is that the world has an attribute called - pollution. Sewage is polluted; so are dead bodies; so is garbage; the origin of the belief is obviously in those things making you sick, but it is widely believed that pollution is bad separately from that, which is true in a sense because knowing they're polluted makes people miserable and people will go to extraordinary lengths to feel clean again and so on. And reds have worked with pollution so much that they are polluted, inherently."

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"That's... pretty wacky, gotta tell you."

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"It, uh, makes more sense when you can feel it, I'm sure."

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"One of my co-prentices got a tarantula and petted it. I let it walk on my arm."

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"Then maybe my analogy was poorly chosen."

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"It did help that it was a pet and she'd told it not to bite me."

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"Lots of unwanted spiders would be more upsetting? Anyway, I have the instinct, I just can imagine how anyone not from Amenta would see 'so then we basically kept them as slaves for centuries' and it's ugly."

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"...we have slavery - not here, the species has it - but at least people are not tempted to throw babies that slaves have touched."

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"The not wanting to touch reds isn't really the problem, if we didn't want to touch them but we didn't horribly mistreat them things would be okay."

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"It does seem emblematic nonetheless."

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"A bit. My home world was nice in most ways but the few problems we hadn't solved yet are very acute and intractable ones."

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"Are we making any mistakes like that which I haven't noticed?"

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"I don't know, how do you feel about the places that have slavery?"

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"They suck?"

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"Petted animals understand language - is there any indication that's because they're somehow now people, instead of the orders being conveyed magically somehow?"

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"Nope. They can't use contingent orders at all, no 'nod once for yes'. If they're not under any orders they act completely normal including if people talk about them or subjects that ought to interest them."

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"Then I can't think of anything obviously terrible to outsiders that passes for acceptable here, except the sanitation, and I think you'll fix that if you're rich enough. And the babies dying, and that one is hard."

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"To a point, anyway."

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"It shouldn't smell like sewage and garbage should get disposed of instead of piling up and dead bodies should get cremated, I'm not going to worry if you as a society never take five-hour showers after touching a dead person."

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"Five hours?"

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"It really does take that long to feel properly clean.  - my shower does have a waterproof touchscreen so I can get work done."

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"I suppose that's less of a senseless waste of time."

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"It's not as if it comes up much."

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"It comes up enough that you have fancy things installed in your shower."

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"I was outrageously wealthy and had lots of things I didn't need just because I could."

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"Aha. How'd you make your money?"

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"Blues don't make money, we just take it from other people."

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"For shower accessories?"

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"I'm being a bit too flippant but our aristocracy mostly inherits wealth, makes money by renting apartments to other people and so on, and even if you have a legitimately necessary job that creates a lot of wealth, like negotiating good trade agreements with neighbors or designing and approving infrastructure projects or setting workplace safely laws, most of your money comes from, and gets spent on, social status things unrelated to that.

 

And I was busy enough that reading things in the shower was a good use of money."

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"Inherits - oh. That's weird."

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"I cannot imagine how weird it would sound, yeah."

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"People inherit things from their teachers or spouses or friends, but it wouldn't snowball like that."

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"Early in our history alliances between cities and countries would be secured by marrying your children to their children. I wonder if that has something to do with countries being smaller here."

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"Occasionally a polity'll merge if the rulers get married..."

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"Might be it, then, you just have fewer layers for those kinds of shenanigans to occur."

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"Yep. Polities also merge by conquest and occasional mutual agreement, I assume you have that the same."

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Nod. "Lot of conquest, back before population controls - you run out of space, people are hungry, the neighbors have farmland..."

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"...that in particular we have less of, it's more greed or anger."

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"That comes up too but the rate really did drop dramatically once we didn't have the population pressure. Conquest here might be less ugly, you'd have no reason to hurt most of the locals."

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"Since we can't meaningfully displace them, yeah. Although the places that do slavery often do it via prisoners of war."

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"I actually know quite a lot about the history of warfare but see no reason to introduce new technologies there - just make it deadlier -"

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"A lot of it's done by servants."

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"Makes sense. We have drones for a lot of things that used to require pilots."

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"Drones?"

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"Remotely piloted aircraft."

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"Neat. I mean, apart from the war part."

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"Yep. I haven't the faintest idea how to do airplanes - I can't even figure out how the storks fly, is that magic or are they much lighter than they look?"

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"They flap really hard. They're also very light, which is impressive for a golem that complex, their instructions are all folded up."

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"Airplanes do not flap but I really don't know nearly enough to teach anyone to make one. And it'd require metal - I really hope this world has enough metal in it."

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"I don't think we're actually short. It exists, just not in huge amounts. I'll make the golems out of iron."

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"It has to be cheap to get lots of nice things like trains that go everywhere."

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"I'm working on it!"

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"I will be so patient!" Slight bounce. "Mostly patient!"

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"Do you want, like, regular progress reports or anything -"

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"That doesn't really sound like the best use of your time, but I appreciate the thought."

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"Hey, you're the patron, you get progress reports if you want 'em, but I'll skip it if you don't care."

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"I might stop in sometimes to ask for updates. Living arrangement's working and everything?"

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"You're very tidy. Shasali's never home. Her boyfriend was briefly hostile but I told him I was gay and he backed off."

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"...cultural thing?"

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"I guess? Guys sometimes get like that about their girlfriends, it's stupid."

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" - is it a concern that one's partner is so bad at being monogamous that if there's someone around they'll get distracted? ...he hasn't been hostile at me. Maybe Shasali told him I think she's made of spiders."

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"Presumably whatever complaints he might have had with respect to you were already addressed when they got together, that way or some other way. And I guess you could summarize it that way, although he might also have been unsure of her motives for letting me move in or my good character or something like that."

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Nod. "I don't think Shasali is made of spiders - not even subconsciously, anymore - but I'm also gay. It seems slightly commoner here - I think most Amentans with any flexibility of inclinations ends up with someone they can have babies with, while here everyone is very glad of the total absence of people they could have babies with."

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"I don't recall the statistic. It's a minority - there's flexibly inclined people too, but it'd be harder to notice from observation."

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"I think it was a few percent back home but I don't know for sure - the internet is like this extraordinary extension of your memory, you don't need to know things because they're three seconds away, I knew I'd miss it but I underestimated how much -"

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"That sounds really hard."

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"We're gonna get it back."

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"It won't have statistics about how many colorful people are gay."

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"And it won't have a web fiction serial I was in the middle of about time-travellers trying to topple the Oahk Empire early. It will be excellent anyway, bet you."

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"Did it end on a cliffhanger?"

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"It always ends on a cliffhanger so people'll pay to be a subscriber and see the next chapter early."

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...snort.

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"I am told it's not easy being green."

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"...your hair is green."

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"Nonsense."

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"...do aliens have different color vision?"

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"I am not possessed with the skills that are supposed to accompany green hair and was not fond of the opportunities available to people in the legal category 'greens' and thereby finagled being blue instead. I dyed my hair. Now I can't get my hair dye and any Amentan who sees me will think I am an inventor or artist and it feels very much like - well, if you knew that everyone who saw you was assuming you were a janitor, wouldn't that be annoying?"

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"...I guess, but if they thought I was an artist that wouldn't especially."

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"...fair. Well, I have green hair right now but I'm not green-the-social-category, and while I find this disconcerting I can't really justify hunting down hair dye when nobody cares but me."

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"I'm not sure blue hair dye has been invented."

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"And I can hardly invent it myself, that'd be a very green thing to do."

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Giggle.

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"I found this lovely little fried-things food cart on the other side of town, apparently here only for a month while his wife sells rugs. Do you want to get dinner?"

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"Are you asking me out?"

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"Yes."

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"Sure. Fried things."

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Fried things!

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Fried things are yummy. "I assume colorful people have invented not only the fried thing but other culinary wonders unbeknownst to humanity."

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"We got pretty good at food, yeah. You can breed plants for all kinds of things - seedlessness, better flavor, invulnerability to parasites, and less water requirements are all popular - and once you can keep things cold and ship them overnight you're not restricted to what's locally in season. That I bet we'll have here soon enough - refrigeration and shipping, that is, not genetic modification."

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"How does refrigeration work?"

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Hair-tug. "I wish I knew. It uses electricity and creates heat on net - all things that use electricity do that - and pushes coolant liquids which might just be water or might be something fancier through coils of some sort."

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"...are we close to the level of development where colorful people invented it?"

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"Not very far. I think there's a key insight and if I told it to you you could do it with current capabilities, but I could be wrong."

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"Huh. Well, it's not coming to me within two minutes, apparently." Chomp fried thing.

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"I would be rather knocked off my feet if it did, I've been straining to remember for months now. Refrigeration helps with vaccines, too, lots of things you might want to vaccinate for you've got to keep the vaccine cold and I bet that's impeding developing them now."

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"We do have iceboxes."

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"I don't know how picky unstable vaccine ingredients are. You're doing really really well for the tech level, honestly, we definitely hadn't invented democracy yet and the creches are nice considering how disinterested in kids your species is and you've got peace and order and rule of law...when Shasali and I first got here and we were assuming babies did not magically appear on hillsides we determined right away that the place we'd been dropped had a pretty functional government though we were confused how it was doing population control."

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"Where'd you land? And we have to have creches, any culture that didn't invent the creche would die out."

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"We landed in Atwa. And you could have - more coercive creches, that consider the children in debt for ten years or something. Or hit them for discipline or make them compete for food - the creches are nice. No one here seems worse off for the absence of loving parents."

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"Maybe some places have creches like that. Are parents useful for non-inheritance things?"

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"Yes, they pay you lots of individual attention and advocate for you until you're old enough to do it yourself and are the backbone of a sort of - social safety net for if you're suddenly severely injured or need a place to go on short notice or aren't able to find work..."

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"I can see how that would be useful. And you're not letting arbitrary people have kids anyway, you can make sure it's nice people?"

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"Oh, yeah, some people shouldn't be parents and we aren't perfect at catching them but we certainly try."

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"Teachers once people are on apprenticeships sort of work that way but some people never get picked for apprenticeships. Or have to share their teacher with a bunch of people."

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Nod. "And in Amenta your parents' other children, and your parents' parents, and their other children, are all usually mentor-type people in your life and can help you if you have a bad parent or if something goes wrong and your parent can't help."

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"Co-prenticeships have an element of that. Not teacher's teachers or farther out."

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Munch munch fried things. "Parents' parents often help with the credit. So do their parents, some places."

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"Does this just kind of end up with the government extracting virtually all of everyone's money?"

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"Yep. People are torn on whether that's a plus or a minus but it's definitely an effect."

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"But you also all have refrigerators?"

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"Consumer goods are really cheap, you won't get a kid faster by cutting corners on that."

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"Really? Why?"

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" - hmm, say a credit sells for two hundred alien dollars, and a typical salary is 40 alien dollars a year. The difference between living as frugally as possible and living very lavishly is like the difference between living expenses being twelve dollars and being twenty, but most of that is - the best consumer goods as soon as they come out and a nice apartment with no roommates right near where you work and food delivered to your house every day, it's not things like refrigerators. The difference between 'as frugally as possible' and 'frugally, but with refrigerators and new clothes whenever you notice the old ones getting worn' is maybe twelve and fourteen? 

And if you're putting the rest of your money towards a credit, that means in one case it takes you seven years and a bit, which means eight because you have to have the money up front and in the other it takes you seven years and a half, which also means eight.

That's not how it is for blues but it's approximately how it is for everyone else."

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"Huh. How is it for blues?"

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"In addition to buying the credit you want to have enough money to set your kid up to live comfortably, and while there are people who could afford ten credits they wouldn't be so irresponsible as to have ten blue children, you'd have ten broke blue children who had to work for a living and who no one wanted to marry and without much prospect of grandchildren and people with that impulse mostly drove their families to ruin long ago. So - in this analogy a blue credit is six hundred alien dollars. Our blue has sixteen thousand alien dollars in the bank and makes eight hundred a year in investment returns, and they could live on two hundred a year and buy a credit every spring, but then they have to split the sixteen thousand in the bank among the children somehow. So instead they live on between four hundred and eight hundred and just have two children typically, and someone who tried to live on twenty and saved all the rest would barely, after twenty years, have saved enough to make the portfolio for one more child. Blues who have more children usually found a way to make a lot of money, they weren't frugal with what they had."

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"Gosh. I think I am glad not to be colorful, neat though refrigerators sound."

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"I think people here are probably happier on average, and definitely will be once you have the internet."

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"You're getting my hopes way up about the internet. What if it is disappointing, what then."

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"Maybe I am just that sure about the internet."

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"I'll look forward to it with high expectations."

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"And hopefully with the better sanitation you all will live longer and get more time to enjoy it."

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"Here's hoping. Vaccines have been getting much more popular since around the time a stork dropped me, sanitation can probably ride a similar wave."

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"Why're vaccines more popular?"

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"Some guy? I don't know, I got all mine when I was a kid and haven't thought about it very much since then except to generally vote 'yes, vaccinate kids'."

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"Putting that up for vote is strange to think about - what if lots of people thought that vaccinations were government mind control and voted it down..."

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"...government mind control?"

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"There are lots of people in the world and many have silly beliefs."

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"Well, nobody thinks that about vaccinations."

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"Good!"

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"It hadn't occurred to me as a problem that might exist! But now I'm glad we don't have it!"

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"'People are wrong about important science things' is one of the most common concerns about democracy at home. Though I suspect they overstate it."

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"Why do they do that?"

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"Uh, we weight the votes so important people count more, and the justification is that lots of people believe silly things and would vote badly."

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"...do they, with their reduced voting?"

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"Likelier to favor war, that's pretty bad, likelier to favor harsher criminal penalties which I'm mostly against but not confident that my sensibilities should override social mores..."

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"Huh."

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"But it's harder to estimate the things they'd get right, or that politicians would get right if they had no choice but to cater to them. You've got lighter punishments than us and an equal vote, maybe that's just cultural."

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"Maybe."

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"Wish I could bottle it and take it home with me."

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"Is that not a technology you have?"

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"Bottling public sentiment to release in the air somewhere else? Now that I think about it it sounds rather dubious."

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"Little bit."

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"Maybe you could do it with movies. Once Wrebb invents movies."

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"What is a movie?"

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"Television, only shorter and with a specific plot and occasionally watched in theatres instead of at home."

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"...why the distinction?"

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"Historical. We invented movies first."

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"Aha."

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"Big screen is an easier problem. I think. We didn't really cover nearly as much history of technology as we should have given that apparently sometimes people get teleported to other planets."

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"Are your curriculum designers likely to correct this oversight?"

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"If they knew where I was! Luckily I don't think they have any idea."

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"What would happen if they did?"

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"Depends very much on what specifically they knew but they'd try very hard to replicate it."

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"And that would be awful?"

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"Well, I'd personally come out very well but if we had robots we would murder all the reds and someone would probably conquer the locals as soon as we figured out how to season here, maybe even without that."

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"Charming."

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"I don't think they have any way to get here but it's definitely a consideration in favor of stabilizing the population somewhat higher."

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"You think we could fend them off?"

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"Could look less tempting, could be valuable allies, could make sure the public relations side is 'casteless springless people, read their books and watch their theatre and buy their amazing pets who never do gross things' instead of 'nearly empty planet with primitives living in their own sewage!'"

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"The amazing pets who never do gross things would be a selling point, wouldn't they."

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"They'll be so popular!"

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"Do you keep pets less often than we do?"

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"By a lot but I don't know how much that's having less space per person and how much is the stronger disgust response and how much is that they'd be so much more convenient if you could pet them."

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"It does help a lot. I don't have any but I've considered it."

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"If I couldn't accumulate babies I might accumulate kittens, here, but no one minds if I accumulate babies!"

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"Kittens count?"

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"No, but they're better than nothing."

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"Gotcha. I'm glad you can festoon your home with all the babies you want."

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Snort. "Know somewhere where we could get dessert?"

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"Yeah, this way." They have cookies.

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Oooooh, cookies. "Do you know what you want to do once you have your talking golem?"

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"Not sure. Why?"

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"I'm thinking of founding a city once railroads are feasible, making it easy to get there, trying to make it straightforward for inventors to collaborate on things."

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"You want my talking golems to build it for you?"

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"That'd be convenient. I mostly wanted to know if you see yourself being interested in that and subsequent projects."

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"Talking golems'll take a long time, but assuming nothing else comes up seems likely."

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He looks delighted.

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...aww.

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Kiss?

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Kiss!

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"You have a really cute smile."

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"Awww, thanks."

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He puts an arm around him. "I was married. He would not mind in the slightest, under the circumstances, but it seems like the sort of thing you ought to know about."

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"Shoulda said that before you kissed me, FYI."

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" - huh, okay. I'm sorry."

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"I'll get over it."

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"I think Amenta has different norms about monogamy than here, probably because of springs."

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"Oh?"

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"It's not taken less seriously, but it's less common, and having been sorta-widowed by inexplicable teleportation accident is not the sort of thing I'd expect people to bring up early."

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"I wouldn't have expected you to bring it up if you were literally widowed but that's for background norm reasons and not because I wouldn't want to know it. Since he's alive and you might return as mysteriously as you appeared, or less mysteriously..."

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Nod. "I think there's almost no chance we'll ever make contact with our world, for what that's worth, but I can see why it's not in the same realm of hypotheticals as 'but a widowed person could invent snake-alien resurrection'."

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Nod. "So what are you - looking for, exactly -"

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"I have an interesting backstory. I'm here, now, and this world has lots of amazing things, and I'm going to try to add more of them. I would like you to be part of that, because I think you're good at it and the thing I do best is noticing people who just need a bigger lever and a place to stand. I also like taking you out and kissing you, and if you know what you want from there I would like to be a part of it."

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...Kib kisses him.

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Oh good. 

 

Gosh, it is spring and has been a long time.

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"We're in public."

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...self-disciplined colorful person who is maybe having a surprisingly hard time with that. "Yes. Thank you."

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"We have finished our cookies and could go home."

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"- good idea."

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Kib plops in his golem chair and whistles it along.

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Aitim can walk without tripping over his own two feet even when distracted.

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Good for Aitim.

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Home!

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They are not in public! Is Aitim going to do anything about that?

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Yes! Yes, he is!

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Well that's exciting.

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very exciting it has been such a long time

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This is all new for Kib but he is happy to figure things out with such an enthusiastic companion.

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He is so enthusiastic! He is particular about some things for reasons of Cleanness.

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That's, uh, almost cute, insofar as it's not just a hassle.

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He will try not to be a hassle about it!

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Oh good. Then the fun part will not be occluded by alien fussiness.

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This alien is more happy than fussy.

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Good.

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Happy alien subsequently adds planning dates with Kib and acquiring presents for Kib to his dizzying socialization routine. 

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Kib is available for most things other than long walks in the woods.

"Where do you find all these people?" he wonders, as a houseguest departs.

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"She was arguing with a vendor over the quality of his glassware. I told her about a different vendor that seemed to sell more what she was looking for and then asked how she can tell about quality and then tried to puzzle out with her how durable sheet glass must be manufactured. The fellow last night had a dog that was trained but not petted and I was curious why so I asked. The person who made that jacket I gave you asked how I dyed my hair and I explained the less-absurd parts of the story and we speculated over blue hair dye options awhile. There's not, like, a secret."

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"...okay, why do you find all these people?"

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" -  well, I learn things from the conversations which might be useful for reconstructing all of industry, they give me discounts on things, they tell me when I can find nice things for other people, I can hear from one person that they're looking for an apprentice and meet a different person who'd be a good apprentice and introduce them and they'll both consider themselves to have been done a favor -"

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"...so you just like accumulating favors owed and keep track of people to follow up?"

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"More or less? I am reliably a useful person to take a problem to and then people do it more, and if I need a favor from them I can get it and if it's useful for it to be known that I'm more helpful to people who get on board with some project of mine then I can do that..."

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"Interesting."

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"I do it even when I don't have anything I want in return, there's just so much lost because people aren't in touch with people they'd collaborate well with."

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"See, it makes sense when you list examples but if I try to think how I'd go about doing the same thing I come up blank."

Permalink Mark Unread

"I think most people find it exhausting, it's all very intangible. I am not sure a societyful of mes would work very well but there should certainly be a sprinkling."

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"What would happen if everyone were yous?"

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"They would have an abundance of anything you can get just by talking to the right people and a dreadful shortage of everything else. Which includes, of course, food, and software, and houses."

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"I feel like your keen appreciation of plumbing might get you somewhere."

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"I would probably build a sewage system with my own hands if it was the only way to have one but I'd be very sad about it. Blues are one person in two hundred, back home, that seems about the right percentage. Though there are other blue skillsets than mine."

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"Like what?"

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"I think I'd be a distinctly mediocre judge."

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"It's not obvious to me why that's blue but I don't have a very good understanding of the color system."

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"Civil court is yellow some places. It requires good judgment and big-picture thinking, and that's part of it, but the other part is that it has to be high status, it'd feel wrong to people if it were oranges making high-stakes family court decisions or yellows issuing death sentences."

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"Family court?"

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"Couple with children is getting divorced, who gets to have the children living with them and how do their assets get split. Neighbor accuses the parents of abuse, you figure out whether it's true and who gets the children if so."

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"If you and Shasali have a falling out you are on your own as regards Kalatha."

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"You mean we shouldn't bewilder some local divorce court with disputes over who gets the kids on weekends?"

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"Yes, they'll be like 'we can figure out how to compensate whichever of you doesn't get the house, but why do you even have a baby'. Apprentices whose coteachers break up get to pick, I suppose they might fall back on that. She is a very very young apprentice. Apprenticing to be a person in general."

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"Well, that's a better system than home, which would hospitalize me for insanity and give her to my parents."

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"Insanity for - cohabiting with Shasali? It's not like anything on the planet meets the standards..."

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"Yes, but the rest of you are merely dirty, Shasali's red. I could probably disavow her quickly enough not to be found insane, but -" He shakes his head. "I don't really want to go back, I want to be able to get the people in danger there here where they'd be safe."

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Nod.

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"How's your golem coming along?"

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"I thought you didn't want status reports." But he can show him where he's at.

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"Don't need them but they're interesting!"

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"As you like."

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Kalatha walks! Her parents are delighted. She has a few vocabulary words by now - all in the common - but tolerates Aitim's insistence that she speak half a dozen languages from another planet.

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"Are you thinking she might as well pick - all that - up, just in case there's ever a way back, or...?"

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"Or in case she ever wants to have a secret language no one else speaks, or in case there's a local language for which it'll be an advantage to have the phonemes."

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"I suppose. There's bilingual creches but they're hard to staff till they've been going a while."

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"Makes sense, yeah. Anitam did that for green and blue, sometimes yellow, and most people I know were glad of it as adults, but I don't know of anyone else who resented not getting it. I don't think it's very important - but if I'm going to spend lots of time playing with her anyway -"

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"Might as well make sure she knows lots of ways to talk to you exclusively."

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"And her little more-than-creche-mates once we adopt them."

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"True, I guess that would help."

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"My father would teach each of the kids a different language and see if they taught each other. I don't know enough languages for that."

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"Are you going to wind up with thirty kids?"

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"...probably. Maybe more than that, if we keep wanting them once we're older than twenty, which we might what with not getting any grandkids."

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"Maybe yours will think swiping babies from creches is a great idea and they should take it up."

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"I suppose they might! At least a couple of them! But it may just be that every single Amentan wants kids more than any human, even humans raised with families, and it wouldn't do to pressure them."

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Nod.

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"You are very tolerant of our bizarre obsession."

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"People are allowed to have bizarre obsessions."

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"And a good thing!"

 

 

Kalatha is still small and snuggly and is very snuggled.

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Shasali has her calling her Mama.

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And why shouldn't she. (It does make him feel mildly strange about teaching her variants on Dada for him, but only mildly. He has cut down the showers to one a day.)

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Kalatha will obligingly call him Dada and doesn't have any reason to think it's strange that instead of kissing Mama he kisses Kib.

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Sometimes a family is a displaced aristocrat and a suspected murderer and their respective boyfriends and the baby they found naked on a hilltop.

 

(He checks baby numbers with the goatherds and farmers, again.)

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Maybe up, down in one place, could be noise.

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One night Kib starts screaming in his sleep.

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- alarmed boyfriend shakes him awake.

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"Hi."

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"Are you okay? What happened?"

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"Bad dream. I'm all right." He shakes his head.

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"Bad dream - people don't usually scream themselves hoarse over bad dreams -"

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"A really, really bad dream. I have weirdly vivid dreams and this one was bad."

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Hug. "Sounded it. Should I have woken you up - you probably woke the neighbors -"

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"Well, I don't want to wake the neighbors. Hopefully it doesn't just pick up where it left off in Recurring Dream Character Dying Of The Pox."

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" - do your dreams often do that, pick up where they left off? Is the pox a real thing?"

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"They don't and it used to be, there's a vaccine now."

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"Huh. Okay."

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"Usually it's just Dream Character's childhood all out of order."

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"Huh. Is that sort of thing common?"

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"No, most people have the kinds of dreams I did when I was a kid, vague mishmash of weird content and arbitrary emotional overlay."

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"- huh." Squeeze. "I'm glad the pox is handled, sounds horrible."

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"I mean, I don't know if I'm dreaming it accurately." Lean.

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Lean. 

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Sigh. Kiss. Flop back down onto pillow.

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No more weird pox dreams?

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Not tonight.

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Aitim buys his boyfriend tiny presents. Aitim takes his boyfriend to musical performances. Aitim acquires himself geopolitics books and reads them to kids at work.

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Kids at work are mostly bored by geopolitics.

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What a shame. He will read to the babies who are too small to object and will be entertained if he makes funny faces.

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Babies are entertained by funny faces!

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And Aitim is entertained by geopolitics!

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There are oceangoing ships and trade and foreign countries. They have storks overseas too.

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Eventually he tries to talk to a stork, even though of course other people have already done that and he doesn't really have an angle on it. "Can you go to your creator?"

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The stork puts the baby down and flies away. They always do that.

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And people've tried following them. He asks Kib about this while they're playing a local board game. "What can we learn from the material, is it regional? Or the language their instructions are written in?"

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"It's written in the common, which means they're from around here, but we knew that anyway since they didn't spread out before they started working. The materials aren't hard to come by."

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Nod. "Do we know how they identify babies?"

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"Hearing."

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He bites his lip. "The rate they're showing up, is it consistent with one person doing it?"

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"I assume you mean storks, not babies. Maybe if they have no life."

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"But too slow to be suggestive that they have it automated?"

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"Some parts could be if they slightly less had no life."

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"At home I could totally crack this."

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"How?"

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"More resources. Who placed an order for materials in these quantities, who among those didn't sell enough golems to account for their materials. Talk to their teachers, ask 'is that the kinda thing they'd do.'"

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"I mean, you could probably go around talking to all the servantmaking teachers in the common-speaking area, if you really want."

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"That sounds fun for other reasons!"

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"Bet you Shasali makes you leave Kalatha home."

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" - true." He makes a face. "Bet I can't convince her to come, either. You know, I think Shasali would be entirely happy just watching lots of babies and never even reinventing the internet."

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"You and Shasali are very different people."

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He asks Shasali how she would feel about his taking one of the babies once they adopt two babies on a tour of common-speaking countries talking to all the servantmaking teachers.

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"If we have two at once they'll be like twins and shouldn't be split up."

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"You could come too."

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"I make most of our money."

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Sigh. "I could take Kalatha and leave the new babies?"

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Frown.

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"I won't be hitchhiking, it's not a dangerous area - I don't think it makes sense for both of us to stay right here until we're twenty or there's proper rail everywhere."

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"How long a trip is this?"

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"I could do it in chunks of two weeks."

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"...fine. Kalatha after we have new ones."

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Snort. "Thank you."

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"When are you going?"

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"Once we have new babies, I guess."

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"Do you have any ideas for how to pick?"

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"Not really. - I've been kind of wishing some had blue hair, which is silly..."

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"Yes, if you want that we have to homemake them."

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- he glances at her.

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"I don't relish the prospect and I don't know how many tries it would take to get a blue one but it's an option, at least for the next several years."

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"...if you don't want to, no, it isn't."

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"I brought it up, I just wouldn't suggest it recreationally."

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"We would have to be very certain of never being found. Not this year but - maybe next."

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"Do you mean local years or Amentan?"

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"I was thinking Amentan - until the new babies are too big -"

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She nods. "We can take the next two the stork bring or pick from the ones who are there now - the one who looks almost orange is a sweetheart -"

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" - he is - him and the next one the stork brings, maybe -"

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Nod.

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"They probably won't actually be blue-haired, it'd be a great-grandparent, but we'd get to anticipate them and everything and debate over who they take after and that's most of the thing I want."

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"Likelier red, I suppose, then." Frown.

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"No one here will think anything of it."

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"What about you?"

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"It's not the hair color and if it were the - everything else - well, I wouldn't have kids who I wished were different."

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"All right."

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"What?"

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"I wish we could have done right by you on a bigger scale than this."

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"It would have been nice."

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Nod. Sigh.

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Kalatha knocks something over and Shasali runs to fix it.

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And they take two more tiny babies home!

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A little orange and another black-haired one! "Do you have names in mind?"

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"We were considering Atanale."

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"I like that." And the creche has already named the orange one, Idran.

Their co-workers think they're weird, although one is considering taking up having-a-kid-at-home as a hobby.

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Babies are so so tiny and so soft and so good and theirs

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"Do you get any sleep?" wonders the one who's considering it.

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"Not much, the first month. If you got one a little older."

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"I guess maybe if they're the only one in the house they don't just all set each other off - why're you taking two -"

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"So we can each hold one!"

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"What about Kalatha?"

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"She usually sleeps through the night but we can hold two if she's up."

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"What are you going to do when they're old enough to take apprenticeships?"

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"If they want to take apprenticeships we'll be supportive. Parents usually support their kids until older than that and if they want to stay that'd be fine too."

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"Some teachers take apprentices young as four."

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"I doubt she'll want to leave that young but if she did I don't think we'd try to stop her."

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"Would you have to like the teacher?"

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"...if she were four yeah, probably."

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"Hmm." She doesn't take a baby home right away.

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They adore their beautiful new babies!!

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They dooooo! Babieeeees!

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And Aitim brings home exotic games to try with his boyfriend and books he thinks he'll like and searches tirelessly for chocolates.

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"I feel so comparatively inadequate at presents." His presents for Aitim to date have included a puppetable page-turner he has not managed to teach Aitim to use, at this point likely because Amentans just can't operate servants; some books; and a blue hat.

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He likes his blue hat. "Don't worry, you are yourself the very best present."

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"You're very sweet."

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"You need to try chocolate."

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"This being one of your alien foods that you're just translating like that?"

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"It's the closest word. But it's better."

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"That sounds really farfetched!"

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"Amenta seems reasonable to you up to the point of better chocolate, I am sure!"

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"I saw your pocket everything! It'll cover a lot of claims. I dunno about better chocolate." Kiss.

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"My poor now-deceased pocket everything! All the proof I have that a civilization exists somewhere that is great at chocolate."

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"Is it like chocolate in any way besides being superlatively delicious?"

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"There are similarities in taste!"

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"Are you sure you don't just like yours better because you're used to it?"

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"I suppose my memories might be unreasonably generous but I think our chocolate is just better."

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"I'll hope I get a chance to try it, then."

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"Seems veeery unlikely but if it comes up I'll arrange you so much chocolate."

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"Yum."

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"Work going all right?"

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"I'm in a bit of a rut, I might switch to protoyping chassis soon."

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"What goes into that part?"

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"Blacksmithing. If it will amuse you to supervise me shirtless in a forge hitting things with hammers, this is your chance."

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"Gosh, now that you mention it..."

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Kib giggles and kisses him.

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Oh good.

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Kib works on chassis. He needs a lot of surface area, so he's planning to build the golem out of strips of iron wound around each other, and etch the instructions in with a diamond-tipped puppet after.

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His roommates are very distracted by having More Babies but are excited to see progress on that.

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Eventually he has a miniature which should if scaled up have plenty of room.

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"How do they move their limbs exactly -"

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"...what do you mean? Golems don't have to be articulated like puppets and automata."

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"Yeah, I know, that's the thing I'm wondering about. What is going on, mechanically, when they move?"

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"They bend? It doesn't warp or weaken the material... I have to mark the chassis and define its range of motion in terms of how the marks move relative to one another."

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"But it doesn't matter if the material is bendy under non-magic circumstances?"

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"No. It's better if it isn't, you can do wood but you wouldn't make a paper golem."

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"That's so weird."

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"Why?"

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"I mean, mechanically, the stone is just - turning into something else? Going somewhere?"

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"...Golems don't change weight when they move, if that's what you mean..."

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"So the stone is turning into something else with the same properties except bendiness?"

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"It's still stone, if you touch one in motion. You can't squish it. It's - sculpting itself, I guess?"

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"That's really weird!"

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"It's magic!"

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"Magic is really weird!!"

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"Are the other kinds of servants weird too or just nonarticulated golems?"

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"They are weird in different ways but this is a different kind of weirdness."

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"Maybe you would get used to it if I left a shine on your nose all day."

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"Maybe I would get used to it if you left a shine on your nose all day."

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Kib pulls one off the table and puts it on his nose.

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Aitim kisses it.

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Hmmm, what if it moves somewhere other than his nose?

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Whatever Aitim was supposed to be learning about magic might not get learned due to distraction.

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Fun.

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A little after that he takes Kalatha out on trips to talk to servantmaking teachers.

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There are plenty of them! What's he doing with that toddler and why does he want to talk to them?

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He got attached. He's doing a research project and is curious about the best apprentices they've ever had, can he take them out to lunch and ask a few questions?

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They will mostly be happy to accept lunch and talk about their apprentices! This one does the most beautiful golems. This one makes such clever automata and came up with a way to let them switch their own instruction cylinders under certain conditions. This one gave up the craft at fifteen, tragic, had such promise, went to open a bakery. This one works at a shine code office. This one does laundry automata. New city - this one makes golems out of glass. This one does shine- and shade-based art. This one was brilliant, died young without her potential paying off almost two decades ago, though she contributed some to her husband's work. The next teacher taught the husband but he's doing mostly medical stuff, not servantmaking. This one doesn't think that highly of any of her students but had an amazing co-prentice, moved abroad, marvelous programmer. This one had a student who was good at pets.

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Anyone interested in the sort of thing that could have led to storks?

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Well, storks are golems, so it probably wasn't the pet or shine specialists.

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What's the story with the one who died young? (Convenient way to disappear if you need to, that, or sometimes a symptom of dangerous activities.)

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Got the pox. Her poor husband.

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...poor her.

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Well, yes, but her husband took it incredibly hard and this was long enough ago that he's more salient.

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"Never remarried?"

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"Nope."

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He tells Kib about everybody's brightest apprentices, frustratedly. 

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"Maybe it'll be somebody in the second batch of cities?" (Shasali is fussing over Kalatha, who she missed very much.)

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"Possibly, yeah. I might throw some money at the fellow doing medical work, that seems important and like it might scale with more resources."

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"Worthy cause, sure."

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"Should we get vaccinated for the pox, it sounds horrifying."

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"Have you gotten so much as a cold since you arrived?"

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"Nope. Probably aren't susceptible but diseases do leap species sometimes."

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"You could try it, but the vaccine might not work on you either, considering."

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"Yeah. Not going to leave on the next mini-trip for a while, Kalatha and Shasali missed each other."

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"It's cute how like - Kalatha doesn't even know it's weird."

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"She doesn't! Kids can get used to all kinds of things."

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"Are the other creche kids jealous?"

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"Some of them have asked. No one's been like 'will you take me home' - we probably would -"

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"If too many of them did that it'd just be like a whole creche in your house."

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" - yes but it'd be very hard to turn down a tiny kid who wanted to live with you."

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Snort. "What about a seven-year-old, are those easy to refuse?"

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"Easier, they're not tiny babies! But they still need parents - well, Amentan kids at that age still need parents, so I bet we'd take them."

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"You're weird." Kiss.

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"I'll live with that." Kiss.

 

Medical golems guy is named Aydanci and gets a letter asking whether additional funding would allow him to expand the reach of his programs.

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Yes, he takes donations, he can also recommend the following organizations, here is his list of priorities going forward. It's a form letter.

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He looks into those organizations too, figures out what he can afford, sends money.

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He gets a form thank-you note too. The other organizations are mostly local chapters of projects like "vaccinate literally everyone against the pox" and "badger governments to subsidize emergency medical golems".

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What do the government-badgering groups look like?

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They are per-city-state and are small bundles of concerned citizens who lobby for funding and creche access.

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- which city-states is this hard to accomplish in, why, who is involved...

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They have successfully eradicated the pox from its entire endemic region, although they plan to continue aggressively vaccinating for another several decades to make really sure. There are some governments who think that providing medical golems should be profitable in its own right and not require their help, or who are suspicious that medical golems might not just do their standard array of first aid procedures.

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...Aitim will entertain himself by dabbling in local politics and trying to persuade governments otherwise.

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Governments where nobody has families are very different from blue governments where everyone wants to afford children! - there's still corruption but it's scope-limited and petty.

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Aitim has ever attempted to achieve political things through legitimate channels. Like meeting people and convincing them and collecting persuasive statistics about wealth and productivity and being a nuisance and making introductions and so on.

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And all these tactics can make progress and he is just as skilled as ever at guessing which ones where!

Kib gets theater tickets for them. It's a political drama.

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Ooooooh.

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It's a comedic political drama; occasionally the protagonist spends a lot of effort on a project that has been obviated behind her back or while operating under some dire misapprehension. But she is good-hearted and persistent and eventually is elected president.

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"I don't think we have this genre at home."

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"No? Is it too unprofitable to make fun of blues even if they win in the end?"

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"Oh, people make fun of blues, they just don't portray them kind-hearted and well-meaning and eventually successful."

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"Aw, why not?"

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"Hmmm. Uh, cynicism being fashionable and there being more corruption and ...even the paradigmatic good leader is less kind-hearted and more...ruthless in pursuit of the right goals."

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"Huh. Is that like - part of how they teach you to be blue, or a feature of the large population..."

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"I think mostly a feature of how they teach you to be blue, and there's some more of that in the population generally but I bet it's cultural rather than a species difference per se. It's the babies, you know, makes everything very zero-sum, lots of idealism is fundamentally about believing things aren't zero-sum."

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"Are they? Even with the babies. You're still richer than us and stuff."

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"Not everything is. But the thing people want most is, and I think that affects how they think about a lot of things."

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"Pity."

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"Uh huh."

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Hug.

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Hug. "Some of the lobbying groups do good work, I'm having fun."

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"I'm glad."

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"Some of your politicians are very silly but I think this is an inevitable feature of all forms of government."

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"Ooh, regale me with silly politician stories."

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This city state's king just can't figure out how to budget for the golems, because he hardly gets any revenue despite having taxes very high! Taxes are in fact so high - and on such specific, narrow industries, like 'green dye' or 'mahogany' or 'salts' or 'standard-sized parchment' - that those industries just pretty much don't exist and people work with (untaxed) dyes in other colors and other woods and so forth.

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"...huh. Has he not, like, noticed -"

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"Adds new taxes sometimes but not very often because the existing ones aren't doing much for revenue."

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"And did you explain to him 'only a moron would sell mahogany to your citizens and I bet all your food is really bland even though someone must sell salt so you don't die'?"

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"I did explain that."

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"You probably said it more politely."

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"It would probably have already been solved if straightforward saying was sufficient to solve it."

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"What did you say?"

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"Oh, that he must have to waste so much of his time finding accountants who'll do what he says, and to waste all that time and still not see any difference in revenues would be maddening, and where I'm from the way we got around all that would be setting aside a street where there were no taxes at all, and instead charging the vendors rent. So he's doing that."

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"A street, that's fun - will they still have to pay tariffs to get in and out of the city with their stuff?"

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"The tariffs are more reasonable but I think still in place, yes. I wanted to suggest he call the market on that street the 'free market' because it would amuse someone I knew back home but it would also confuse everyone - the goods are still for sale - so I did not make the suggestion."

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"Why would it be amusing?"

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"Back home 'free markets' are a word for ones that are not taxed or regulated."

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"Who would it amuse?"

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"My - crechemate."

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"I could learn loanwords."

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"Brother."

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"Brother. Okay."

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"If he were here he'd be on a tear against all tariffs."

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"All of them?"

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"I think there might be agreed to be narrow tariff-justifying circumstances? But definitely most of them."

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"Is it just - all of them do the mahogany thing a little bit even if it's only a little?"

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"Yeah. The cases where economists approve of taxes are cases where an interaction imposes costs on people other than the buyer or the seller, or if you aren't a credit auction country to fund national defense and law enforcement and healthcare and so on."

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Nod.

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"Credit auction countries have all the money the government could want, no excuse to do anything with taxes other than make sure the market takes everything into account. No one else has that luxury."

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"Are their economies worse?"

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"Tend to have lower productivity and lower hours-worked and more vacation time and things. It's not obvious those are worse, once you're past a certain threshold."

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"The vacation time one is nice."

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"I actually think Anitam should impose mandatory vacation time - since the credits are zero-sum, doesn't hurt anyone really - but it's not urgent or wildly popular and it's not as important as other concerns."

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"Why isn't it popular?"

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"Hard on small businesses when their employees take a big chunk of time off, doesn't really matter to blues and greens who amount to most of the vote..."

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"The weighted votes thing is weird. I guess you might just be that different, but - humans aren't and it's hard to imagine. Shasali seems really bright."

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"Shasali is unusual for a red - got arrested because she was coordinating their assassination arm, most of them don't do that - but the differences aren't very pronounced except in the aggregate, yeah."

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"Assassination arm? Is that a red job because it involves dead people?"

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"No, the reds just assassinate anyone working on robots because if we had robots we'd kill all the reds."

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"Ah."

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"And she ran that, and got arrested for it."

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"Did she not run it very well?"

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"Well, somebody was careless enough to text her for last-minute information, but I don't know whose fault that was, I haven't asked her. There wouldn't have been enough evidence for a conviction if she weren't a red."

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Sigh.

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There is another yelling dream. Kib wakes the babies.

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Baby parents are distracted putting the babies back to sleep. 

"You okay?"

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"Yeah. Sorry."

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"You're the one apparently in horrible agony - have you heard of anyone having nightmares that bad -"

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"People mostly grow out of nightmares, I seem to have grown into them."

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"Is it as painful as it sounds?"

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"It's really bad."

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Hug. "Have sleep aids been invented yet - they help with nightmares -"

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"There's herbal teas that are supposed to do it..."

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"This seems a bit too intense for herbal teas but I can get some if you'd like."

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"Worth a shot. Usually the dreams are inoffensive though." Sigh.

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Hug. 

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Hug. Sigh. Sleep. YELLING. Ugh.

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Unhappy babies!!

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"I am so sorry. I'll just. Sit up the rest of the night, shall I, get some work done by shine..."

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"And we should maybe think about getting more space - it's hardly your fault -"

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Kib kisses him and goes to sit at the kitchen table and work.

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Babies get coaxed back down.

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Shasali is very good at walking and shushing babies back to sleep but it's hard to do two at once.

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Aitim can walk and shush a baby too.

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Good.

And then the babies are asleep and Shasali can also go back to sleep.

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Everyone except Kib can go back to sleep!

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Kib is groggy the next day but doesn't have any nightmares the next night.

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Can they afford a bigger place.

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"Maybe if you don't keep giving so much to charity and take fewer baths," says Shasali.

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"I'm down to one a day!"

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"Unless one of the kids spits up on you, or you walk down one of the worse roads in town..."

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"We can make do with the space."

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"If you picked up some extra shifts we'd be fine to move. It's not that bad and the kids are there."

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"It's the opportunity cost, not the work being unpleasant." Sigh. "I can do that."

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"Or have Kib sell servants."

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"I don't think he's got something saleable yet but I can ask."

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"I don't mean his talking one, I mean he could sell shines or pet animals."

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"Opportunity cost's even higher there. I'll take extra shifts."

He takes kids on field trips to the market and about town and so on.

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Kids are agreeable about this and the other creche workers appreciate it, it's good to get kids exposed to stuff.

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It is! And more fun than being stuck in one place all the time!

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One day when Aitim is not taking an extra shift and is having friends over one of the friends switches languages. Kib, swinging through the room to get dried figs and a cup of water, stops in his tracks.

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"-hmm?"

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"- nothing -"

(Kib is not lying well enough to fool Aitim, but the friend returns his attention to what he was saying. Kib leaves.)

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Aitim finds him once his friend has left.

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"Was that Harthanic?"

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"Yeah. What -"

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"I don't speak a word of Harthanic. Recurring Dream Character does."

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" - in places where babies do not appear on hilltops that would be the weirdest thing I've ever heard."

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"It's pretty fucking bizarre!"

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" - you're sure you didn't learn it as a little kid or something, and forget -"

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"It's not even spoken here, your friend is from Lapis."

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" - then..."

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"I mean, maybe my creche had a worker from Lapis for a while when I was two and I have forgotten all about it but like..."

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"Sometimes babies are appearing on hilltops and you don't want to fail to notice, yeah. Is there precedent for - what, prophetic dreams?"

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"No! No there is not! And my dreams are set decades ago!"

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" - well, okay, can you verify them, do they have locations in them you could go look up - should've invited you with me when I visited Lapis -"

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"They're in Lapis, and - I knew it was a real place but I've never been, figured I'd made up all the layout and all the Harthanic -"

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"Well. Not the Harthanic. No precedent at all -"

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"Ah, yes, I just neglected to mention, everyone with brown eyes has mysteriously informative dreams, this is common knowledge and I somehow forgot."

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"Whatever it is the fact that you're the only person it happens to would be about as weird as it happening at all!"

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"But I haven't heard of it before. Ever."

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Nod. "Well. Okay. You have vivid dreams set twenty-something years ago in Lapis. About dying, sometimes. And you speak Harthanic."

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"I don't speak it well, but I know bits."

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"Okay. Did she die of the pox or might she still be in Lapis, if she, uh, exists -"

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"I haven't dreamed dying but I also don't have anything past like age 24."

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" - how do you know -"

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"...how do I know what?"

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"How old the viewpoint character is in the memories?"

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"...I'm not sure how I wouldn't? Sometimes she's seven, sometimes she's seventeen, she's never twenty-five or up."

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" - I think I might be failing to imagine what these dreams are like. If you're - seeing through someone's eyes - even if you are getting their thoughts - how often would they think about their age..."

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"Not that often but they're - it's not like I'm dreaming about her it's like I am her."

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"While you're dreaming are you aware you're dreaming, or is it just - living snatches of a different life -"

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"Second thing."

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" - huh. But she's - similar enough to you that -"

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"Except for the being a girl part yeah."

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"What does that even change?"

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"...your species of aliens has the same genders we do, don't you?"

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" - we have people who can have kids and people who can't, but none of you can have kids, the other differences are all cosmetic."

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"You would have been so confused if you'd landed in a gender-segregationist town."

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" - that's a thing? Why is that a thing?"

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"There are gender-wide personality differences! A lot of people find they get along better with their own gender! Have you really not noticed?"

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"...no, just like I wouldn't have noticed if skin color came with personality differences, because I'm not categorizing by it - what are the differences..."

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"Uh, men are more aggressive, higher and more spontaneous sex drives, less likely to want to work in creches or take young apprentices, more risk-taking - most criminals and by a lower margin most rulers are men - there's - stuff it's hard to put into words -"

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" - huh."

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"Are you retroactively categorizing people now?"

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"Yeah. Maps to orange and grey, a bit."

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"I'd make a terrible grey. - Do you think of me as low-key having a caste?"

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"Green, of course, inventing new things with servantmaking. Not that you are, just that if for some reason you landed on us you clearly would be."

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Giggle.

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Aitim can in fact sort everybody else they know! Purple and purple and orange and purple and green and grey and yellow "and I think maybe King Efatze would be a very happy painter or something, he's definitely not blue..."

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"But he went and became a king."

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"A very poor decision! ...probably in this society it's hard to make money as a painter."

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"It's not impossible but it's pretty hard. Do you have more of a market for paintings?"

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"Yeah - people can commission you, you can get an online following - but it's still not very lucrative - anyway Efatze is well-meaning and he's not dumb but he doesn't have the problem-solving skills to run a city well."

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"I wonder how he wound up running one, I don't know the history of the place."

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"I don't know either, I wasn't there very long."

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"The usual thing if you don't found the place is to apprentice to the prior ruler."

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"Maybe he was sleeping with them. He's not a dreadful king, just not a very blue one."

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"Painting's - green?"

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"Yeah."

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"It's weird that scholars and artists are the same thing."

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"Creativity is supposed to be the underlying thing. It'd seem strange to me but Makel is very much the artist kind of green and the rest of my family very much the intellectual kind and so it's good they're all one caste."

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"Well, you aren't."

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"I am not! I wriggled out. Some people think intermarriage is unwise for this reason, gets you kids with the wrong aptitudes."

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"And not everyone can wiggle as you did."

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"I am much advantaged in wiggling. The system should be more flexible, it's just hard to do in a way that doesn't impose lots of costs on other people which they didn't agree to."

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"Like what?"

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"Distortions in credit costs - I could buy five purple credits a year if I wanted to, and I wouldn't do that but some purples might go blue to provide for all their grandkids that way and then purples who are just purple would never afford children. Worse education if schools started trying to help people change castes instead of teach them something they'll be able to make a comfortable living at. Destroying cultures and community safety nets - caste mobility is like physical mobility, 'zero' is bad, 'shuffle everyone at complete random' would be monstrous, the amount you get by 'default' has some advantages for individual liberty and some invisible community costs...

- or, here's an example, we have organized labor. Purples who recruit and organize all the people in their factory to demand better working conditions. Reds have Shasali. Most purples don't have that skillset, most reds don't have Shasali's skillset, but if we plucked purple union leaders and Shasalis out of their communities in early childhood and blue'd 'em then those communities wouldn't have anyone who was one of them and also had the skillset to advocate for them."

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"You think she should've been blue? By aptitude."

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"I think if we were tracking by aptitude we would have had her blue, yes. I think she might be happier orange but maybe that's just all the horrible springs."

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"I'm kind of surprised childcare even has a caste to it the way you take to it, but maybe oranges can't sleep unless five babies are snoring in the bed with them, how would I know."

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"Lots of people like childcare - fewer when it's not spring - but orange is also medicine and therapy and social work and sex work some places, that kind of thing."

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"Huh. Horrible springs -?"

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"People vary in how desperately they want kids in springtime, from 'gosh a baby would be really really nice, what a nice baby' through 'even though the government will literally rip the kid out of my hands and kill them when they find out, it'd be worth it to hold them just once.'"

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"...what the fuck."

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"Last one's not common."

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"It had better fucking not be!"

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"There are just a lot of us."

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"And you were horrified to find one on a hillside."

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"Tapa kills them quickly."

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"I suppose."

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"And no one else does it at all. It's really a hard problem, population control."

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"If you have a population of crazy animal people. ...I do not mean to insult you, you are my favorite crazy animal person, but this would not be a hard problem if humans could volitionally create babies instead of the thing we do instead. We'd just volitionally create reasonable numbers and not be upset about it."

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Sigh. "How would humans do if there was something you wanted, and there was a finite supply of it in the whole world that was enough for everyone to get two, but nothing to stop anyone from instead taking more than that?"

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"I mean, if you recast it like that, sure, we'd suck at it, but it's uniquely perverse for the thing to be babies."

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"Yeah." Sigh.

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Pat pat.

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"They're nice when you get 'em! Makes up for all the wanting, really."

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"Maybe if we ever get in touch with your world human babies can be raised there, since they'd exist anyway and our population definitely doesn't track yours."

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"Maybe! Or some Amentans might settle here even with the perma-springing."

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"Ideally the creches would have some or be phased out slowly so we don't have, you know, total cultural dieoff, but sure."

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"Oh, yeah, I think they'd do their own city and just take their share of kids, if they did that. - some people'd be better than others but we may as well fantasize about having enough leverage to get something non-horrible."

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"Better than others how?"

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"At being happy to just settle somewhere presently uninhabited and maintain a nearly-stable population there and respect their neighbors."

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"As opposed to steamrolling us."

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"Uh huh. It's not likely they'll find a way here, I have no reason to think we're anywhere near home in a non-magic-snake way."

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"Yeah, I know, but. Magic snake, what the fuck."

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"Yep. If it's some yet another kind of alien I really wish they'd introduce themselves."

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"But it saved up so long for its abducting-people-to-another-world credit."

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"Then it should let us know how we can make its abduction experience satisfying! And not inspire a repeat! ...if it wanted to grab reds that'd be fine, I guess -"

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"I dunno if it quite achieves 'fine'."

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"I think most of them would, if informed, prefer it. Things at home weren't looking good."

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"If they went the same places as their loved ones, maybe."

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Nod. Sigh.

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"Maybe one day I will dream about Aly secretly inventing a dimensional portal or something."

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"Maybe. - Aly?"

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"Aly. Alymbel Mahri."

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"I talked to her teacher in Lapis. When I was asking everyone about the best student they ever had -"

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"Aw, that's flattering. She learned Harthanic to impress him."

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"Died of the pox at 24, such a waste of potential. - she was married."

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"Uh."

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"Aydanci Evaret, the person I send money for medical golem projects - "she died of the pox, her poor husband" is actually what her teacher said to me -"

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"...okay, I remember nothing about him, maybe that makes more sense if you know him, but, uh, poor Aly? It really fucking hurt!"

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" - that is actually what I said to him! "Uh, poor her!' but it's been nearly twenty years, I guess he's still salient and she's -"

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"I guess. Uh, do you know anything about him besides the medical golems stuff?"

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"- no. I'm sorry. Uh, I saved the form letters he sent answering my questions, but they were very distinctly form letters -" He goes and gets them.

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"Yep those look like form letters.

This is weird."

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"You don't say." Squeeze. "She must've gotten married not long before - if you don't remember -"

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"I have some bits and pieces from - I mean, I'm assuming she didn't get married while bedridden with pox, right, so I have some bits and pieces during which she must have been married but I suppose not thinking about it right then."

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...nod. "Should we be thinking about this as - you are Aly, reincarnated, or as you got her memories but she's dead, or..."

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"I guess as more fills in it'll feel more - continuous. It wouldn't seem that weird to say 'I', except for how I can be missing facts as significant as 'married'."

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"This world is really weird."

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"This is not a standard issue world feature! I may have appeared randomly in a wilderness location but doing so as a reincarnation is not something that just happens here!"

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"Maybe it happens sometimes but usually there's not much to remember because they died as a baby, either first time or second time?"

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"I guess. But I do think the storks get most of the babies."

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"Then it might get more common now that there are storks? I don't know, I just - it's weird that it'd be only you -"

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"Yes."

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"Maybe it's something Aly did - she was supposedly brilliant, which, well, I can believe."

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"And didn't tell her husband about?"

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"We don't know anything about him."

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"Except that apparently Aly married him, which ought to be a recommendation!"

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"I would expect her to have good taste! But somehow -" Sigh. "It's not going to make sense no matter what, is it. Maybe a snake ate her memories as she died and spit them up on a new baby and that's what happened."

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"We have the same personality."

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"Did you start getting the memories young enough they could've been formative -"

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"No, first ones were sparse and I was fifteen."

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He bites his lip and nods. "Planning to go to Lapis and do investigative work?"

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"Not sure. I guess I could, but what in the world do I say to the guy, 'hi, you've never met me and I don't remember you but I can sort of vaguely speak Harthanic because Aly could' -"

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" - yeah. Maybe once you remember more."

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"Yeah."

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"I guess I should stop considering Aly a candidate for storkmaker."

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"Why?"

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"The storks are still coming. I was wondering if she'd faked dying, or gotten killed over it, but sounds like she really did die of the pox. And we thought one person with no life could keep them coming, but her husband's been otherwise very busy, all the medical projects."

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"I don't think she had any very close friends but I also didn't think she was married."

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" - fair. Is it the kind of thing you'd do?"

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"Invent storks? Yes."

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"What?"

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"That's great, that's all."

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"Well, hopefully I am not responsible for a horrendous population explosion."

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"....you tried to talk to them? The storks?"

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"...no, I haven't personally tried it..."

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"Should you? Would it work? If..."

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"I don't know! I mean, maybe? If that's inherited? But why would it be?"

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"I don't know! But it'd be frustrating if they were yours and you couldn't even give them new instructions because they didn't recognize you."

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"I don't really have a good excuse to park on a creche roof for a week waiting for one..."

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"Not really - if you see one flying in you could stop by to visit us at work -"

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"Even on my chair they're faster than me."

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"We could stall them a bit by being too busy to grab a kid but you'd have to notice them while they were still a ways out, yeah." Frown.

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"I could pet a falcon, get advance warning. If this is that important. You could also ask her husband."

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"It would rather obviate my next extended trip, but we're not at the point of needing to do anything with the storks. Should I ask her husband?"

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"You know as much about him as I do."

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"Well, you might have more insight into the kind of person you'd marry. ...'did Aly do the storks' comes across a little threatening if he's keeping it quiet for the political reasons."

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"I don't know."

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"In that case I'm inclined to wait until you dream up anything at all about him."

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"And if I do see a stork coming from a long way off I'll nip in to the creche but it might come to any of the town creches."

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"Uh huh. Ah - are you considering yourself provisionally married or -"

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"I don't remember anything about this guy. Like, I assume he would have to be great for me to marry him, but that's just a fact, not a feeling, I don't..." He shrugs elaborately.

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"Makes sense, yeah." Kiss.

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Kiss. "He might be straight, anyway."

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" - oh, right, statistically that's likely. That would be terribly awkward."

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"A bit. But if he's bi I suppose he could... complain about me cheating on him... which would be, I guess not exactly admirable but not something I think I'd have bothered selecting against?"

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"I'd be inclined to think less of someone who'd complain but sympathetic to someone who wouldn't complain but would still be vaguely bothered? I guess?"

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"He'd have more grounds for it now that I know. But the opinion of a guy I don't remember at all is not the most motivating possible thing."

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Nod. "I assume I was right to tell you that I recognized her name?"

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"Why wouldn't you have been?"

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"There are people who wouldn't want to know that they were married to someone they've never heard of! You just don't seem the type."

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"I have, just barely, heard of him!"

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"And he's up to very admirable things!"

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"Which I suppose is better than having been married to nobody special."

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"Good taste in spouses and good life ambitions, it's nice but it really doesn't add up to knowing the guy."

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"It doesn't." Sigh.

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Aitim takes extra shifts and sends his boyfriend's husband-in-a-past-life more donation money.

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Form letter.

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He's not doing it for the form letters but he does save it for Kib.

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Kib looks at the signature. Files it away.

 

"If I wind up remembering monogamy I should probably not run on guesses about your feelings on that," he tells Aitim later.

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" - if you remember something you want you should go and get it. I will be very sad, of course, but a happy marriage is a very valuable thing."

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"...In the department of 'things I would previously have identified as about as likely as my being the reincarnated inventor of storks', what's the arrangement liable to be if your husband is eventually accessible?"

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"We were monogamous before but he would definitely not want me to break off an existing happy relationship. I think you'd get along with him, which helps."

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Snort. "How much would you have to bother my erstwhile husband to find out if you think I'd get along with him?"

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" - lunch would probably do it? Mind, I don't know if he'd agree to get lunch, those form letters are suggestive of 'busy and not social'."

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"You've sent him a bunch of money."

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"I have. Should I leverage my donor status to get a lunch with your husband and a guess about how well you'd like him?"

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"You don't have to."

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"Well, you know how much I hate talking to people." Kiss. "I'll write him."

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"Thanks. I love you."

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"Love you."

 

He writes Aydanci. He will be in Lapis this week and would be delighted to have the chance to meet him in person and discuss his programs.

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Is there something not covered by their previous correspondence?

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He specifically wants to meet him, if that's possible, he knows Aydanci is very busy.

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Very well. It will have to be short. Considering Aydanci's many projects.

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He really appreciates it.

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They can set a date then.

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"Should I explain things if he asks the right questions?"

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"Yeah, suppose so."

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"Okay." Kiss. "I hope he's great."

 

 

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Kiss! "I hope so too, substantially better than the alternative."

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And Aitim goes to Lapis.

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Aydanci meets him punctually for lunch. He has brought work along.

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"Thank you for taking the time. You have very impressive productivity; I take it you don't take much time off."

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"Time off, what's that?"

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"If there were more people on the project do you think you'd take a break?"

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"Probably not."

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Your widowed husband is a miserable workaholic, Kib. But maybe just because he misses you. "That sounds very tiring."

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"Was there something you had in mind for the agenda of this lunch?"

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"I was curious what motivates you on these projects and whether you do anything else - which I take it you don't - and whether there were people I should suggest you meet or work with."

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"Diseases should not exist. I am arranging that there be fewer."

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Nod. "And you prefer to work alone on that?"

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"I'm not against collaboration in a general sense but for projects that would require a lot of social contact it's been a while since I knew anyone with whom the advantages outweighed the obstacles. I do have working relationships with a number of people on various things."

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"What sort of people do you work well with?"

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"Competent. Straightforward. Not given to small talk. Willing to communicate in writing."

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Aitim likes him. He's pretty sure it's not mutual. "I'll recommend you anyone I encounter who fits the bill. Thank you."

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"You're welcome. ...Thank you."

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"I think he was probably less singleminded when Aly was alive," he tells Kib. "Actually I know he was less singleminded because they couldn't possibly have met. I didn't ask if she was the motivation for the disease crusade but - seems likely."

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"...awwwwww."

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"I like him. ...he's a very unhappy person."

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"Why did I marry an unhappy person?"

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"I think you must've married a happy one who is still unhappy about losing you."

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"...awwww."

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"And I think that whether or not you, uh, actually get along with him or whether he's straight or - any of that - it'd make him really really happy that you were alive and well. So it might be worth telling him that even if you still don't have enough to go off in terms of actually liking him."

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"...yeah. All right. You can't tell if people are straight?"

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" - how? It's not correlated with anything else - at least not among Amentans - he was not attracted to anybody in the coffeeshop but that's hardly conclusive -"

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"I was thinking the 'are they attracted to anyone around' thing, yes."

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"I think that Aydanci's sexuality might be 'my wife is dead' but I don't know what it was before that."

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"Poor guy. I'll go to Lapis."

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Hug. 

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Hug.

Kib goes to Lapis.

He can find the house without asking for directions.

 

He knocks.

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Aydanci answers the door.

"Can I help you?"

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"Uh, other way around. This is really awkward, I'm sorry in advance."

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"Okay, so, my name is Akibel Mowar. I'm eighteen. For a few years now I have been having strange, vivid, pedestrian-in-content, memorable dreams which are - memories from a first person perspective. Aly's. Out of order but - mostly childhood. So far."

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"- I'm sure you realize how that sounds -"

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"I realize exactly how it sounds and I'm very sorry to interrupt you with bizarre claims but Aitim thought you'd want to know I'm - okay -"

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"- that you're -"

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"I don't - remember you," apologizes Kib. "I assume I will at some point but the dreams are random and I don't yet. But I have Aly's personality and I'm getting her memories and I'm okay."

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"It is a bit hard to credit."

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"I know. I'm sorry. - I know the three questions, do you -"

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"Yes. Tell me - please -"

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"What do I want, what do I have, how do I best use the latter to get the former."

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"What else do you have?"

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"Miscellaneous childhood. Learned Harthanic to impress her teacher, rolled around on a little scooter because she was clumsy - I am too, I have a golem chair -" He points at it. "Darker than me - not close to anybody from creche - once wrote a letter to the woman who brought her in though -"

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"What did she name her magpie?"

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"...I don't remember a magpie, when was this? Uh, let's see, good magpie names - why did she even have a - it'd really depend on the bird's personality anyway. They like shiny things, I think?"

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"Favorite co-prentice?"

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"Datsar. Unless I'm totally missing another one or the boy with the huge ears who I have four scenes remembered for and still can't remember his name turns out to be great."

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"Do you know what she was working on?"

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"Not directly but based on circumstantial evidence suspect storks. - and that they are anonymous to prevent anyone attempting to use them to throttle populations in certain locales."

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"What are you working on now?"

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"Talking generalist golem. Wrought iron chassis, loopy, seethrough, I didn't bring my sketches or my model. Aitim's funding me. - he's also my boyfriend, I, uh, I didn't even realize Aly was a real person till I heard somebody speaking Harthanic, and - I don't remember you -"

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"The important thing is if Aly is alive. It's fine. After death, reincarnation, and memory loss I would not dream of insisting on fidelity, please don't worry about it."

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"...yeah. So. Talking golem. Aitim wants it for mining, he's from another planet where they use metal for a lot of things and availability of materials is a bottleneck on revolutionizing all the everything, it's exciting. The green hair's natural. He actually doesn't like it, he usually dyes it blue for alien reasons but can't get dye here."

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"I still have the magpie."

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"Oh, what did she name it? - you know what, Aitm wanted me to try instructing a stork, just in case, but they're hard enough to catch even if I sat on a creche roof it'd take ages, but if she had a magpie that's both more easily accessible and a more definite check in case the storks were password locked or something, like, 'don't do what I tell you unless I preface it with "pineapple"' -"

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"Thief," says Aydanci.

A magpie comes to his shoulder. And bites his hair.

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"That's a good magpie name! Hi Thief. C'mere."

Thief hops onto his hand. Kib pets his feathers.

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"- you're alive -"

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"Yeah - I - do you want a hug or something -"

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"I may end up crying on you -"

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"That's fine. I'm waterproof."

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He does end up crying on him.

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Kib stays late and crashes on the couch overnight and in the morning receive groggy hugs and goes home to Wrebb.

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"How'd it go?"

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"Aly's magpie recognizes me, that did it. He cried on me. He's very glad I'm alive and not the least bit upset about posthumous cheating and I didn't ask if he was straight."

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"I guess that's about as good as - makes sense while you still don't remember him."

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"Yeah, I thought so. He wanted to quiz me, figure out if I seemed Alyish in how I talked even if I didn't recall all the facts."

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"Does he think so?"

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"Yes, because I do."

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"Well. I am glad he knows you are alive and can occasionally experience happiness again, and it must be - vindicating - to have it clear -"

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"And I did invent storks. And he has been making new ones, he does a couple a week, he's got a scribe for the instructions and just has to make the chassis."

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"Oooooh! Congratulations on inventing storks!!"

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"Thanks!"

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Kiss.

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Kiss!!!

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"I'm so glad he did not decide to be mad about posthumous cheating. He just wanted to know that I'm okay and happy."

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"He seems like a very good person who has just been having absolutely no nice things for twenty years."

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"It's very flattering and sad!"

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"Well. Luckily you are alive."

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"I am!"

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"And you're the stork person, that makes lots of things easier! We can start assembly-line-ing them as soon as we have assembly lines."

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"Yep.

Oh, and - he had all Aly's notes."

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"Oooooohhhh."

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"I didn't take them all - seemed mean - I took about half, I can go back for the rest sometime."

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"That'd include stuff about him, right -"

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"I took the first half. So no. I asked if he wanted me caught up - he said it should be however I wanted it - I think it'd be weird to start with notes-based understanding without remembering anything."

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"That makes sense."

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"Once I have any dreams about him to speak of I'll get the second half."

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"Makes sense to me."

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"I hope we don't have to turn my storks into death storks."

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"Yeah. Me too."

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"They're good storks, not going to genocide any cultures at all except maybe if they practice slavery or something!"

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"Thinking about letting the slaveowning populations dip?"

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"I don't know about right now but it's possible."

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"They might fold long before they actually ran out of people."

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"Yeah."

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"Could even swing by there and size up how likely that seems. Not now, though."

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"Haven't even begun a campaign of slavery-throttling."

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"We've got time. Do you know if you reincarnate more than once?"

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"I've only gotten Aly memories and it would have been a strange oversight for Aydanci not to mention if Aly got dreams. So don't know."

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Nod.

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"Maybe I get to be cut-rate immortal. For. Some reason. If we have to do death storks I hope they don't death stork me a lot in a row. Not that I seem to get infant memories."

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"If storks recognize you they could exempt you from deathstorking."

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"I suppose. Seems unfair somehow. I really don't like the idea of death storks - I'd almost rather come up with some entirely different chassis, network them separately -"

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"That's reasonable - they wouldn't need to carry heavy loads and so on - I hate it, I do hope you realize that, it's just that I hate the sort of societies that overpopulation produces even more..."

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"I can believe you that they suck, but..."

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"They go to war. Constantly."

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"Like I said, I can believe you."

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He bites his lip. "Sorry. I don't - I don't want this either. Maybe the moon thing will work."

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"Hope so. The population isn't skyrocketing, at any rate."

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"Definitely not. If it's growing nonlinearly at all it's a very gentle curve."

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"We've got a while. Might not even grow with the population. Where would it stabilize, if this is just how many babies there are -"

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"I don't know how many the storks don't get but definitely a sustainable final population."

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Kib nods.

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"Or maybe there are eight more random bizarre magic things afoot."

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"I suppose we can't rule that out. When the one billionth human survives to adulthood, all of the silver in the world will be transfigured into aluminum! We will develop the ability to fly! Anyone who makes it to the moon gets eternal youth!"

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"I don't like my hypothesis space having this much nonsense in it!"

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"I apologize on behalf of my planet."

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"I do not think the magic snake was your planet's fault."

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"Apparently you never know!"

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...kiss.

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Kiss!

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Aitim stops planning for trips in his search for the storkmaker. He dotes on his and Shasali's babies.

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And also Kalatha too, right? Kalatha is not super comfortable with this no longer being the only child in the world who gets extra special attention all the time.

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Of course also Kalatha, who can go around with him on all his adventures if she likes and still needs five hours a day of attention for languages.

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"Nobody even knows these languages, Papa."

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"Just you and me! And people very far away in the place where everyone's hair is colorful."

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"Why don't we live there?"

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"It's very crowded and we don't know how to get there and they would be mean to your mama."

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"Why would they be mean to Mama?"

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"They hurt a lot when they think Mama has touched anything. So they would want her to not touch things, so they wouldn't hurt."

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"...why hurt?"

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"I'm not sure. It's the way they are."

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"Why?"

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"Some people think it's because we live so densely that anyone who did not hurt at things that might make them sick got sick all the time and didn't have babies."

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Kalatha is not developmentally capable of understanding this explanation and swats his knee in reproach.

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Pat pat.

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Huff.

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Snuggle! Vocabulary words in Tapap!

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Time goes by. Kib has dreams.

He gets confirmation firsthand that Aly invented storks!

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"How long did that take her? It's such a big project..."

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"I don't have the whole process, but a few years."

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"Did she think about the population problem - it'd be a bit premature -"

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"We had the opposite problem then. City people don't find as many kids as nomads or farmers or woodcutters. There was a draft in some cities sending people hiking. Not Lapis, there were enough volunteers, but still."

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Nod. "Poor babies."

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"That wasn't really the motivation of the draft but yeah."

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"Do we know if babies drop in the ocean?"

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"They don't wash up on shore, and boats don't encounter them floating, but we have no way to be sure."