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Finnah's just arrived at work to open the store for the morning shift; she has her apron on but hasn't put her hair up yet. She lets in the customer who always takes half an angle to determine that he wants four buttercreams, again, and then nips into the back to tend to her hair and check the overnight progress of the rock candy.

This isn't the back.

But that -

No, he's too tall to be Mial, if this is a Mial prank it's a stupidly elaborate one.

"Okay, I give up," she says, "what the hell?"
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The too-tall Mial-like person whom she spotted first shrugs.

"Magic interdimensional bar," he says succinctly.
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The slightly taller person standing next to him and holding his hand turns around and looks at the door. He also proves to be suspiciously Mial-like.

"I wonder who this one's an alt of, if anyone," he says. "Hello."
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"...oh," says Finnah, not at "magic interdimensional bar" but at "alt". "Well, I dunno about me, but you three," point point point, "look like Mial."

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"'Mial'," muses the third Mial-like person. "And where is Mial? Fetchable without letting the door shut behind you? You lose access to this place when it does that."

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"Uh, he's not anywhere nearby and I don't bring my crystals to work but I could song him until he tries a whisper spell?"

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"Please do. Assuming he's older than five, I feel strongly confident he wants to meet us," says Potential Mial Alt Number Three. "I'm Miles, that's my brother Mark," number one, "and my alt Stalas," number two. "Going just from the name, Mial sounds likeliest to be a Miles rather than a Mark or some kind of elaborate coincidence. But then, Stalas's name doesn't sound much like mine, so who knows."

"Mial, Miles - yeah, I see what you mean," says Stalas. "Not much to go on, though. Well, even if he is an elaborate coincidence, he might as well join the fun."
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"What does age five have to do with anything?" wonders Finnah. "I mean, that would have been adorable, but not that different from four or six."

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"Well, in my personal timeline - shared up to at least that point by a close alt of mine who's been and gone - up until age five I lived my life in a spinal brace that pretty much completely prevented me from going anywhere under my own power," says Miles. "And the five-year-old Miles who was just here was really ticked off at me for being twenty years older and no longer thusly confined."

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"Ohhhh. I didn't get a really close look at your eyes - okay, Mial is a shren, shrens grow ten times slower than humans do. He's my age, which is to say a hundred seventy."

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"...That's a new one," says Miles, after a pause. "Eyes? What about eyes?"

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"Behold how my hair is super red? For guys it's eye color and he's a silver. You probably just all have gray eyes, slightly different if you know what to look for - I don't hang out with shrens and dragons often enough to be sure I could tell a silver apart from a platinum or a spelter but a silver from a human is easy. Come to think of it, he," she points at Ivan, "looks like Mial's cousin but the eye color is usually the first thing I pay attention to on him and brown is way more different from gold than gray from silver."

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"Oh joy," says Ivan, "more of me."

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"Oh joy," Mark says brightly, "more of you."

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"Aurin's not bad, for a dragon. Mial can go get him if he wants, Mial can teleport. Do you think I need to open the door to song him?"

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"Quite likely. There's a time-pausing effect."

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"Right then."

Finnah opens the door, and sings: "Mialavaraaninnah!" And then, for flourish but no added mechanical effect: "Get your tail over here!"
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A short pause, and then Mial whisper-spells Finnah: "Where the hell are you, besides 'not Elcenia'? And why did this spell work anyway?"

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"Teleport to my work and come see!"

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"Oooookay."

He teleports to her work.

He comes and sees.





"What," says Mial, stopping in the doorway.

"Oh my god you're shorter than me," snorts Miles.
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Finnah giggles and lets the door close. "He's still too tall to grow his hair out and pass for a halfling-form, though. Alts!" she adds helpfully to Mial, because: word.

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"...Alts," Mial says thoughtfully. "Huh."

"I'm Miles, this is my brother Mark, that's my alt Stalas, and that is my cousin Ivan," says Miles.

"Human?" says Mial.

"Well, Stalas is a dwarf."

"Stalas is rather absurdly tall for a dwarf. And skinny." (Stalas rolls his eyes.) "And the ears are wrong. Different kind of dwarf, I guess. Should I be fetching Aurin? What should I be telling Aurin? I think I've given him enough unpleasant surprises for a year today already."
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"Oh, yeah, how did he take the news?" wonders Finnah.

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"Um," says Mial. "Coughed all over the girl he was kissing at the time, called me an inconsiderate ass, asked after my reasoning, sat down to a board game with me. We're fine."

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"You don't have to get Aurin but you might as well," says Ivan. "He would get you. I know because I found this place first. Do I want to know what your coughing-fit-inducing news was? You're about the right age to get yourself a small army..."

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"Mial with an army. Hoo boy. We live in a demilitarized country!"

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"What would I do with an army if I had one?" wonders Mial.

"That is also a question I asked myself when I was seventeen," says Miles, "but it was of rather more practical relevance at the time."

"Anyway, none of you seems to be dragonish, so I don't think you'd understand the coughing-fit-inducing news if I told you. But I should probably catch you up before I go get Aurin... all right, I'll try for a short version," says Mial.

"I am a shren. Aurin is a dragon. Dragons and shrens have a lot of very similar properties, one of which is that we speak a magical language called Draconic. Draconic is very opinionated about shrens. According to Draconic, dragons are awesome and shrens are definitely not awesome. Draconic-speakers will go through the most amazing linguistic contortions to avoid putting dragons and shrens in a single category, and it feels totally natural to do that, I'm a Draconic-speaker too, I know. The actual practical difference between shrens and dragons is that shrens can't fly in our natural forms - what would be our dragon forms if we counted as dragons, which we emphatically don't. I'm not even sure I should still be saying 'we', it's been a couple of angles, I might actually be the last shren already - yeah, so, shrenhood is normally incurable, but some offworlders showed up with offworld magic and casually went around turning all the shrens into dragons over the course of a few days. But when the miracle-worker showed up at our door, I turned him down."

"Of course you did," says Miles, nodding along. "I would've done the same."

"Really? I mean - I know we're theorizing you're my alt here, but I can't help feeling like I maybe didn't explain the impact well enough."

"Gotta win with the hand you're dealt, right?" shrugs Miles. "I know the feeling."

"...yeah," says Mial. He smiles slightly. "Yeah. Wow, you are my alt."
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"I used to be a shren, but I took the miracle, and when I can get a day or two off work, I'm going to fly into the fucking sun," says Finnah cheerfully.

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"You sound," says Ivan, "very pleased about that."

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"Aurin and his mom went one time. I think he was like a hundred fifty something?"

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"Red-groups like fire. Flying into the sun will not harm her," Mial clarifies. "Anyway. Should I go get Aurin?"

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"Definitely," says Mark.

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"...Okay then. Going and getting Aurin," says Mial.

Teleport!
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"Did you find out what Finnah was doing in another world?" Aurin inquires, when Mial reappears.

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"Yeah, one appeared in the back of her candy store, and it's full of our alts," says Mial. "There's a human version of you, and one human and one otherworldly not-very-dwarflike dwarf version of me, and the human me's brother is weirdly enthusiastic about meeting you."

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"...Uh, that's weird, but okay," says Aurin, holding out his hand.

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Mial teleports them both to the other world in the back of Finnah's candy store.

"Everybody, this is Aurin. Aurin: my dwarf alt Stalas, my human alt Miles, Miles's brother Mark, Miles's cousin Ivan, some lady who hasn't had time to introduce herself. Hi, some lady."
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"I'm Linyabel, Miles's wife," says some lady.

"And," says Aurin innocently, "does that imply that you are very good at scoot-racing?"

"...No. What is a scoot?"

"Flying vehicle thing, Mial's mad about them."

"I do not race any sort of vehicle."

"Nice," Finnah mouths under her breath, looking between Miles and Linyabel.
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Mial is doing a broadly similar kind of looking between Miles and Linyabel.

"I think we're still missing a name here," says Miles, looking at Finnah and choosing to ignore the way Finnah is looking at his wife.
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"Oh, I'm Finnah. Did I forget to - I forgot my nametag, second time this week, I'm getting mop duty for sure. Bleah."

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"So you're a human," Aurin says to Ivan. "How's that working out for you?"

"Pretty decently. How's being a dragon? Last time there was one of me in here he was six and, according to the magic bar, a firebird."

"...I could turn into a firebird if I wanted to but I've never really seen the point," says Aurin. "Being a dragon's pretty great."

"The firebird mini-Ivan looked exactly like a human and was very surprised by the bar's pronouncement," mentions Ivan, "he wanted to be normal."

"Dragons aren't exactly common but we're not abnormal," shrugs Aurin.
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"The five-year-old Miles was a unicorn," mentions Miles.

"'Unicorn' isn't ringing any bells," says Mial.

"It's another mythical creature. Come to think of it, the five-year-old Miles's adopted sister who was inexplicably and unfortunately an alt of my wife was allegedly a dragon."

...Mial cracks up.

"Hey!" says Miles.

"No, I know," says Mial, snickering helplessly, "it'd be much less funny if I'd been there, it's just the way you put it—" and he's off again.
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"She couldn't've been our kind of dragon if she was passing for human particularly effectively," says Finnah.

"No, I imagine it was another sort," agrees Isabella. "My other alt to have been through here was a half-human, half-telepathic-alien, which was also interesting."
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"So, Mark, is Aurin as inexplicably fascinating as I am? You didn't wind up meeting mini-me."

"You're inexplicably fascinating?" asks Aurin.

"Are you asking me to explain the inexplicable?"

"Well, no. Do you not expect to be interesting?"

"I do not expect to be interesting in the way that Mark finds me interesting," Ivan clarifies.
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"In what way do I find you interesting that is distinct from how normal people do it?" wonders Mark.

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"Explicability," says Ivan. "Intensity. Clear trajectory from point A to point B. The part where at no point have I attempted to seduce either you or anyone who cares about your opinion."

"Isn't him being your cousin a reasonably clear trajectory?" wonders Aurin reasonably.

"You would think that. But no, absolutely not," says Ivan.
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"I haven't yet caught Aurin doing anything especially and lovably Ivanish but I have no reason to think he won't," says Mark. "'Does that imply that you are very good at scoot-racing' sounded like it would've qualified if I'd had any idea what he was talking about."

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"Mial races scoots. Every so often he comes down with an immense crush on someone else who also races scoots," says Aurin.

"Miles was various flavors of depressed about the concept of girls for a while until he landed on a semi-hostile planet and improbably carried off a maiden from it," says Ivan.

Finnah snorts.
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Mial and Miles look at one another.

"Unflattering but basically accurate?" says Mial.

"Yep," says Miles.

"—heh, you're not a shren, what does your cousin do when you're in a mood?"

"...Well, it depends on the severity of the mood... why, what does yours do?"

Instead of answering, Mial inexplicably bursts out laughing.
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"Well, see," says Finnah, "when shrens, or for that matter dragons, don't fly around enough, we get tired - to start with - which doesn't help when the solution is 'fly around' -"

"So when he gets in a particularly prolonged mood sometimes I have to defenestrate him," says Aurin, "why do you have a word for that."
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"You would have to ask a historical linguist," snorts Miles. "Haven't you ever just not flown?"

"When I'm too far gone for it to work, he knows not to try it," Mial explains. "That's not often, though."
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"Fun fact, this little symptom of not flying around is also a significant chunk of why being a shren sucks so very much," Finnah says.

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"You said 'to start with'. Something else happens after that?"

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"Oh yeah. The tiredness goes away and then it starts hurting, and if you are a little baby shren who cannot shapeshift and therefore cannot fly, it just gets worse. He's teeny because he had a weird reaction to painkillers. I was on the same ones and nothing happened, though, maybe you guys are just supposed to be teeny."

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"Teeniness definitely seems to be a theme," says Miles.

Stalas is looking at Mial with a thoughtful frown.
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Mark notices and correctly interprets the thoughtful frown.

"What is the gender distribution of these immense crushes?" he asks.
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"Fifty-fifty," says Finnah. "Are you guys not fifty-fifty? If I have alts and we cannot bond over how hot girls are I do not know what I shall do."

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Aurin glances at Ivan.

"Mostly girls, but if they're thin on the ground or into it, sometimes guys," shrugs Ivan.

Aurin nods.
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"Overwhelmingly girls to the point where I couldn't confidently say anyone else registers on the scanner at all," says Miles.

"Of people I've been attracted to in passing, mostly girls. Of people I've fallen in love with—both guys, but it's not a high number to begin with so I don't know if it's just coincidence," says Stalas.

"That's weird, I wonder why we're all different?" says Mial.
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"We match," says Ivan. "Linyabel, did it come up with Isabella?"

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"She's straight, I contribute to my constellation's quota of bisexuality," says Linyabel. "But that was designed in, so it may not be a useful data point."

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"...I have a theory, for us," Miles says slowly.

"Yeah?" says Mial.

"There's no - social censure, is there, for liking both, where you're from?"

"No..." says Mial.

"There's quite a lot on Barrayar. Stalas?"

"Not... not a lot," says Stalas, "but dwarven population problems, so. I've always meant to marry a nice girl and settle down eventually. Do my part. Or at minimum screw a lot of noble hunters when I'm older and ready to have kids. And while it's not exactly something you get heat for, it's not something you flaunt, either."

"So apparently the Platonic form of the Miles is bisexual, and I've just had it beaten out of me by Barrayaran social norms," Miles concludes. "And Stalas has had his bisexuality slightly dented, and Mial's is flourishing."
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"Huh. So if we're consistent and you're consistent that seems like plenty of consistency, and Linyabel is a freak anomaly via genetic engineering," says Ivan.

"What is that?" asks Aurin.

"It is why she is so pretty and long-haired and whatnot. Fiddly business with her - do you have, you know, genomes, in Elcenia, you are a magic dragon, how should I know."

"...I mean, I can tell that it's a word, in your language, which means things, but not as such," says Aurin.
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"I nominate Linya to explain genetics to the magic dragons," says Miles.

"Dragonishes," says Mial. "I want to hear this too."
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"Well, first of all, since you're apparently shapeshifters," says Linya, "is it customary for people to look like their parents where you're from?"

"Exactly like, sometimes," says Finnah levelly, "if they're full-blooded dragons, in the same species of form. Parunias like Mial or his dad, not so much. But for humans and so on, yeah, people look like their parents more or less."

"So, the reason that happens - at least in humans; I can't begin to speculate on why dragonishes work that way - has to do with very tiny chemical 'instructions' all through all the cells of the body, which are split into various halves for gametes and recombined -"

"Does this have anything to do with why I can only ever have daughters, assuming I don't enlist outside help or spontaneously start liking boys?" Finnah asks.

"Yes, or at least so I'd assume - females have two of a specific sub-instruction and males have one of those and one of a different one, instead. Anyway, with the right equipment you can have a detailed look at those instructions and change them around, and it's customary in my social class of origin to do this as a matter of such total routine that I don't technically have parents but do have many substantial advantages at almost everything relative to untampered-with humans."
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"I wonder what dragonishes do have instead," says Mial.

"It's possible we could find out," says Miles. "Linya? Where'd you put that med scanner? Or would we need something more involved?"
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"I don't know what it will do with shapeshifters, but I can always try it. It doesn't do sequencing on its own, though." She picks it up.

"Uh, what's that?" asks Aurin.

"It picks up medical sorts of information about you noninvasively."

"Medical sorts of... huh?"
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"What sorts of information are medical sorts?" asks Mial.

"...What?" says Miles.
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"Where you're from what happens if someone gets injured, or sick?"

"Uh, they go to a light?" says Finnah. "Unless they are a light, and then they go to a witch and pray."

"And a light is...?"

"Oh wow, no lights," breathes Finnah.
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"A light is a person who can make a little ball of, um, light, and they touch you with it and all of your injuries go away," says Mial.

"Well that sounds convenient," says Miles.

Stalas is just sort of staring in deep envy.
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"I just make it a point to go once a week, for this form, since, why not, public lightcraft in Esmaar, and that way I don't totally ignore a broken foot or whatever," shrugs Finnah.

"And witches are...?" says Linya.

"Oh," Aurin puts in, "lights don't work on themselves or each other, so if they get sick or hurt they go to witches, who make potions that do various things, depends on the witch, painkillers or shampoo or, since Mial is planning to be obnoxious with his natural form these days, I suppose scale polish - whatever."

"Okay, well, 'medical stuff' is more similar to witchcraft than to lightcraft, where we're from," says Linya, "and it involves perhaps most centrally knowing what's wrong. If you've been - poisoned and with what, or if you broke or strained something and exactly where, or if your heart's beating too fast, or what your body temperature's doing - any of that counts as medical information. The scanner is really less useful for seeing what dragonishes have in the way of genes than the sequencer is - I'm not sure if I'll need separate blood samples per form to look into that or what."

"The blood should be the same. I mean, at least according to vampires," Finnah says.

"...Vampires," says Linya.

"Oh, I guess you don't have those either. Do you have anything?" wonders Aurin.
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"I'm not sure what vampires get out of blood and what medical equipment gets out of blood is going to have any overlap," muses Mial.

"We have humans," says Miles.

"In my world, humans and dwarves and elves and qunari and darkspawn," says Stalas. "And far, far less 'medical stuff'. But healing magic does exist, although not as commonly as it sounds like for you."

"As far as we can tell, my and Linya's and Mark's and Ivan's world just doesn't have magic at all," says Miles. "These places need names very badly. I nominate - hmm - Nexus for ours."

"'Thedas' works for mine, it's the name of a planet but there's only one relevant planet," says Stalas. "I'm not actually completely certain it's the name of the entire planet, now that I think of it, it might just be one landmass, surface navigation is not something I've ever concerned myself with. But close enough, anyway."
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"Ours is Elcenia," says Finnah. "That's explicitly the world, the planet doesn't even bother to have a name besides 'planet' in most languages - Draconic does it, but Draconic does everything up to and including bully small children."

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Mial laughs. Stalas and Miles both look at him with wry sympathy.

"I admit I'm not totally sure how a language goes about bullying someone," says Stalas.

"I have a pretty good idea," says Miles.
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"Words don't just have denotations, they have connotations," says Finnah, "and for most things Draconic is pretty good about coughing up the exact set you're looking for, and for 'shren' it's really, really not."

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"See also: 'mutie'," says Miles.

"...Right track, yeah," says Mial.

"Thought so," says Miles.

"Is this a life experience I should be glad I missed out on?" says Stalas.

"Very," says Miles.
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"And of course it's not just the shrens themselves who speak this language but also dragons, so, Aurin is fine and Mial's dad is fine and most of them are a great big bag of dicks in one or another way, such as my parents or Mial and Aurin's grandfather."

"Grandfather's okay in most ways," says Aurin. "Just - not about that."
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"I'm sure he has many redeeming qualities," Mial says dryly. "For those lucky enough to experience them."

"Mine tried to kill me," offers Miles. "Before I was born, and then afterward. We... got mostly straightened out all right, though, around when I learned to walk. Bonded over his horses."

"Neither my world in general nor my grandfather in particular has horses," says Mial. "But I doubt it would've made much difference if they did."

"Also, wait, Mial and Aurin's grandfather? That's... that's different from our genealogical arrangement," says Miles. "I wonder who corresponds? Stalas and I don't seem to share any ancestors we can confirm, but he never met his mother so she's a question mark."
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"Uh, our dads were half-brothers but mine died like two hundred years ago," says Aurin. "My dad's name was Pardam and my mom's name is Alys? Grandfather's name is Piro?"

"Sounds like my nuclear family just sort of - snipped off and stashed under Piotr," says Ivan. "My dad died almost right when I was born."

"Mine had time to name me," says Aurin, "so there's that, Mial and I are both members of the Only People With Our Line Names Club, since Grandfather and Uncle Avar had a disagreement about whether Avar's line name belonged on Mial and Mial hadn't been named yet at the time."
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"You know, there's no reason I couldn't just go and get my parents," says Mial. "Is there?"

"Well, as long as you can do it while someone else from your world holds the door, I don't see why not," says Miles. "And then we could probably confirm who if anyone they're alts of. What are their names?"

"Avar and Koridaar."

"...That sounds reasonably like Aral and Cordelia..."
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"You keep saying that Mial's father is a dragon. What is his mother?"

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"Elf," says Aurin.

"Luckily enough, or you probably wouldn't get to meet her," says Finnah.
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"Because dragonishes age ten times slower than humans, right," says Miles. "How old is she? I mean..."

"Two hundred thirty-three," says Mial. "Late seventies equivalent. Healthy, though."

"That's going to be weird," murmurs Miles.

A thought occurs to him, and he pens a note to Linya: That third dose of Lalita's blood just sprang to mind. Do we know its effects on old age? Can we think of a safe way to test?
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Bar can probably confirm safety. Its effect on old age on recipients is non-obvious and would have come up if there were a known reaction, but he's very well-preserved.

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Yeah, I think that's why I thought of it. Check with Bar? You're closer. And I'd rather not bring it up with Mial until we have a better idea of whether or not we can try it.

"So, should I go get my parents?" asks Mial.

"Why not," says Miles.
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Linya murmurs to Bar.

Bar can't check without an elf present to look at.
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Mial goes out the door and teleports away to find his parents.

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Finnah holds the door, since she is wearing an apron and can shoo anybody who comes near.

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Mial returns, parents in tow.

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Avar looks around curiously as he steps into the bar; Koridaar does the same.

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"...yeah," says Miles, "weirdly young version of my father, weirdly old version of my mother. All in all, weird."

"I don't actually know what my mother looked like," says Stalas, "but..." He's gazing thoughtfully at Avar.

"What?" says Miles.

"Nothing, maybe. I'm thinking."
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"Avar's not going to look any older than that," says Finnah, "least not human-shaped, dragon thing. Did Mial explain you stuff?" she asks the parentals.

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"I'm going to guess that your mother looks just like mine and there's no reason to involve her," Ivan says to Aurin.

"Probably? I mean, maybe yours doesn't have bright gold hair."

"Nnnope. Brown. Still."
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"Quote, 'alts!', end quote," says Avar.

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"I got several more words than that," says Koridaar. "But I'm given to understand it amounted to the same thing."

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"Well, these two are Miles and Stalas, alts of Mial," point point, "and that's Miles's brother Mark, and that's their cousin Ivan, and I'm Miles's wife, Linyabel. You've missed another couple of sets with different mixing and matching who've already gone home, but I'm planning to loiter here for days and everyone else who's intending on going back through our door is waiting on me rather than skip the intervening waiting through the magic of time dilation."

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"Seriously," says Miles to Stalas, "what are you thinking over there?"

"Well, it's just... I mean, it's a no-brainer that your father would look like you. Therefore, by extension, also like me. And it's not that weird that he'd end up looking like the rest of my family in the process. But - a couple of things you've said - and the statues are very stylized, but - and which members of my family he looks most like—"

"Spit it out, Stalas."

"I think the Thedas version of, well, you," he says with a gesture to Avar, "was Aeducan. As in the Paragon Aeducan, founder of my House. I mean, it's hard to tell, because we obviously can't drag Aeducan in here to compare, he's been dead for centuries."
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"Bar, can you give us some manner of informative possibly out of print portrait of Aeducan?"

This is the best I can do.

Here is an unusually realistic relief carving.
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Stalas looks from it to Avar and back.

"I mean, accounting for style... yeah," he says.

Miles looks too. "Yeah," he agrees.

"So that's a little weird," says Stalas. "I wonder why I'm the odd one out."
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Avar goes over to look at the carving.

"Huh. Alts," he says.
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"My parental situation doesn't match either of the alts of me I've met and they don't match each other either. This could be sample size or differences in our various altly regularities, I suppose, we haven't seen more than four of anyone."

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"I wonder if you even had an alt of Grandfather," says Mial to Stalas.

"It's pretty hard to tell. Aeducan's parents weren't especially famous, and I wouldn't even know where else to start looking."

"Are we saying my grandfather and your grandfather are probably the same, then?" asks Miles of Mial. "I mean, it seems likely, given what we know. Hey, Bar - how about a holo of General Piotr? As young as possible, I guess, if dragons top out at twentyish."
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"Yyyyep," says Aurin. "That would be Grandfather Piro, when he's being all bipedal. Since I'm probably the last to have seen him of people here."
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"I have not yet forgotten what my own father looks like," Avar says dryly.

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"It's been a hundred seventy years, it could have dimmed a little," says Aurin.

Finnah squints at the holo; she's never seen Piro before.
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A young General Piotr glowers at the camera.

"I don't even think I've seen a holo of him that young before," says Miles, "but the expression's sure familiar."
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"That is the 'have the correct opinions before I start telling you what they are' look," says Aurin. "Among other uses."

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Miles laughs. "Yeah. On the General it saw a lot of use as the 'I was a war hero before you were born, sit down and shut up' look. Similar use case, different context, maybe."

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"Ours isn't a war hero. I mean, maybe he is actually, for all I know he fought in the South Anaist Conflict or something, but it doesn't really come up and it would've been a long time ago, he mostly goes on about being a council member and super-old," says Aurin.

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"Ours is a war hero," says Miles. "It wouldn't be much of a stretch to call him the war hero, of his generation at least. And there was plenty of war-heroing to go around in those days."

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"Dragons usually don't go in for much nationalism," says Aurin. "Even if we stay in the same place a really long time. It never occurred to me to join the Corenta military, say, because I might decide at some point to pick up my favorite possessions and tuck 'em and fly to Aveha. Aveha's nice, especially in spring. Uncle Avar's got a government job, though - I don't remember your title -"

"I'm in the Imperial Service," says Ivan. "Sort of the done thing for Vor. Do you even have a job?"

"Not like a career. I pick up tour guide work interpreting for foreign tourists who think they're going to teach themselves more than three words of Vansalese and don't get translation spells, sometimes. One time a girl talked me into spending six weeks as a fairground ride only to discover that it was not technically legal for her to pay employees in sexual favors, so I guess that was a job. I help out Mother now and again, I'm pretty good at that but don't want to work for her, might go into some unrelated kind of event planning." At Ivan's headtilt: "She sets up these charity events? Where rich people who don't want to just sign writs of transfer all congregate to give each other excuses to sign writs and show off for each other about how big the writs are. Sometimes she does other things but it's mostly that."
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"I do the odd bit of translation and solve problems everyone else has given up on," says Avar. "My official job title is National Applied Policy Authority. Translation isn't usually attached, it's just a matter of 'does anyone in the office speak this language? well, the dragon had better'."

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"Are we going around talking about our professional lives now?" asks Finnah. "I work at a candy shop."

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"I could reasonably be summarized as an engineer."

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"I'm a covert operative," Miles says brightly. "And a mercenary admiral. And a courier."

"I'm an exile," snorts Stalas.

"I'm a scoot racer," says Mial.
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"I'm unemployed," says Mark.

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"And I'm a research wizard," says Koridaar.

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"I've already collected textbooks on one apparently portable form of magic. Anything I can import from you?"

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"Elcenian wizardry doesn't work outside of Elcenia. But I'm interested in your apparently portable magic," she says.

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"It involves a lot of complicated drawing and I have no substantial evidence that it can do anything you can't, except be relocated to other universes, but Bar will supply textbooks on it. What about non-wizardry magic?"

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"Generally you have to be born with those," says Finnah. "You'd probably know if you had any of the kinds."

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"Purely for my own curiosity, I think I'd like a set of textbooks," says Koridaar.

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The bar quotes a price in aaberik.

"I don't mind buying them for you if that would be meaningfully useful," says Linya.
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"Meaningfully useful... hm, yes, I think so," says Koridaar, nodding. "Thank you."

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"You're welcome."

"I take it people who can be reasonably summarized as engineers make a lot of money?" says Aurin.

"Well," says Linya, "that depends on a variety of things."
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"Linyabel invented the holo-pen, hardware and software, and they sell like ice cream in summertime on Zoave Twilight. She has a pet neuroscientist."

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"Dr. Cheung is not my pet."

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"Someone explain 'neuroscientist' in more detail?" says Mial.

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"Neuroscience is the rather medical study of brains. Dr. Cheung does groundwork in uploading, which would be the instantiation of a person's mind in software; it's at least sixty years away, even optimistically, but if it works it could mean universal immortality, and depending on some other factors possibly resurrection of adequately stored deceased individuals. I pay him a salary, reimburse him for research expenses, and provide software support, and I'll pay his assistant too when he finds one he likes, because that seems very cheap for universal immortality."

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"Yeah, no kidding," says Mial. "Although I'm not sure 'software' sounds like a nice place to live."

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"Well, obviously that would require some work, in order for the uploaded individuals not to have to spend all their time in a featureless wasteland, but we've already got a lot of preexisting technology for connecting experiences to minds, mostly used for immersive fiction. Delivering experiences to an upload is almost certainly much easier than getting someone uploaded in the first place. Certainly all the tests will be on animals until we're extremely confident that uploaded people will not be better off dead. And if the virtual environment turns out to be very complicated or people simply don't prefer it, it should be likewise fairly straightforward to put them in robot bodies - or even figure out a way to clone blank brains and redownload them, although that's uncomfortably close to the current leading brand of functional immortality, which involves human sacrifice, and I'd want to be very sure no one would be tempted to take shortcuts with the downloading."

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"Thank you," Mark says dryly.

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Stalas squeezes Mark's hand and says, "I'm missing something here. Human sacrifice...?"

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"If someone wants to be immortal in the current state of technology, first of all they need to avoid sudden death in any situation that isn't amenable to cryopreservation and subsequent revival, and second of all, when they get very old or develop other intractable health problems, they commission clones of themselves, who grow at an accelerated rate to adulthood and are then murdered and receive brain transplants. This is not very popular and it's only legal on one planet, but it happens on a routine if not overwhelmingly frequent basis. Mark is a clone, just not for that purpose."

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"...Your world sounds kind of terrible," says Mial. "I mean, I'm sure there are nice parts too."

"Plenty of 'em," says Miles. "But, yes, also that."
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"Mark's half-alt Lalita - who was married to my alt Isabella - was genetically engineered, differently enough from me to have ceased to age and such that his blood, transfused, can heal an amazing variety of conditions very quickly, albeit not as instantly as it sounds like your lights can. So I may be able to make non-software-based inroads on the galactic lifespan with what he left for me to look at."

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"That's interesting," says Koridaar. "Does his blood make people cease to age too? Or have you not had the opportunity to test it?"

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"Isabella's received transfusions and hasn't noticed any effect over about seven years," says Linya. "But it's possible she simply wouldn't have noticed; I'm younger than she is and I can expect to look younger than a non-engineered person of the same age for my entire life, and our alt didn't share our face and was also shy of four years old. Perhaps she's aging much slower than she otherwise would. We don't have any better data. Bar can tell whether substances are safe for possible recipients that she has available to look at, and we have one full dose left - I don't need it to try to duplicate the effect at home; I have his genome sequenced."

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"...hmm," says Koridaar. "Is that a suggestion?"

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"Yes," interjects Miles.

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"Someone who needs it more might turn up in the next week, but they also might not, and also in the next week I'm going to be reading all these textbooks I have on runecasting and might well learn to heal any particularly alarming acute injuries. Bar? Is Lalita compatible with elves?"

Perfectly, says Bar, at least if Koridaar is representative.

"She says yes. I can administer it if you like. It's too high-volume for a hypospray so it will hurt a little."
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"Let's make the experiment."

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So Isabella takes a baseline medical scan and injects Koridaar with the remaining dose of Lalita's blood.

"This will take a while to do anything much. The first two doses were used on Miles and his five-year-old alt with the same bone condition and they made slow steady progress over several hours."
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"Noted. I'm sure I can find some way to pass the time. Reading your runecasting textbooks, maybe."

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"I think I heard the phrase 'translation spell', so you'll probably still be able to figure them out after you've got them home. I wonder if you'd find pens useful without a background in computers or an infrastructure designed for them. Probably not very, but maybe enough to be worthwhile."

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"Pens...?"

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"Holo pens." Linya pulls hers off her necklace and draws a line. "They'll store any sort of thing that can be considered information - text, images, holos, sound, etcetera - though you need another bit of equipment to get sound out again. The tutorial is designed for people who've seen comconsoles before, though, the version for the uninitiated isn't done yet."

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"That looks very interesting," says Koridaar.

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"'Comconsole'... tell me more about those," Mial says thoughtfully.

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"They do what pens do, but you can't pick them up to draw with or carry them around, and they don't need a peripheral to produce sound. Oh, and all these devices network with each other - I can send a message from my pen to Miles's without having to be nearby."

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"I want one. I want dozens. I want to manufacture them on Elcenia," says Mial. "Pens more than comconsoles but I don't see why I should limit myself."

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"Well, I've already given away the blueprints once - but I'm not sure you have the technological infrastructure to read them usefully. Maybe you can skip a lot of steps with magic or something."

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"I will skip as many steps as it takes," says Mial.

"Is that what that mood looks like from the outside?" murmurs Miles.
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"Occasionally even more so," murmurs Linya. "Well, they come in various colors and styles, have a catalog, you can bring home a box of them if you like." She tosses Mial a catalog.

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Mial happily peruses it.

Miles laughs. So does Stalas.
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"Watch out, everybody, Mial's had an Idea," murmurs Avar affectionately.

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"Aieeeee," says Finnah.

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In the spirit of the thing, Mial produces a cackle.

This cracks Stalas and Miles up completely.
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Mark too.

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"Reinventing small electronic computing devices is not the style of Miles-plan I am familiar with," says Ivan.

"It's in character for Mial," says Aurin. "Dare I ask?"

"Well, now that you've implied you've considered asking you'll probably get at least an example," says Ivan.
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"I mean, are you thinking more of the 'drive an antique tank, dig an escape tunnel' genre of Milescapade or the 'avert a civil war, liberate a POW camp' type?" wonders Miles. "I'm sensing more of the latter."

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"Oh, either, they're both very different from the inventor bit."

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On a hunch, Miles asks, "How did you get into scoot racing?"

"I was eighty-one and impatient and disguised myself long enough to come second in the tryout race for a league that didn't technically have an equivalency restriction," says Mial.

"Now that is an escape tunnel," says Miles. "With just a hint of Dendarii."

"I am intrigued by this classification scheme and doubly intrigued by how I almost understand parts of it even though I don't know any of the incidents you're referring to," says Mial.
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"The tunnel is a childhood incident that collapsed on my head and the Dendarii are his plausibly deniable covert mercenary corps."

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"'Escape tunnel' for 'exploits of bored child pushing the boundaries of available entertainment'," Miles explains. "'Dendarii' for, hmm... something about scope, in this case, I think. Doing something extravagant and then sticking with it."

Mial nods along to this.
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"Sometimes extravagantly accidental," adds Ivan. "And extravagantly illegal, so Gregor has to take the whole shebang as an early Winterfair gift..."

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"I don't think I've ever done anything extravagantly illegal," says Mial.

"I recommend you keep it that way unless it's really worth it," says Miles. "Of course, it's not always possible to know that in advance."
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"Do you have a Gregor, I wonder? The little-uses had one, but they had basically everything, with Linyabel more Eurasian and more adopted and more named Nika instead."

"The name doesn't ring a bell," says Aurin.
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"Yeah, no," says Mial.

"So you might have one if his name is as far from 'Gregor' as 'Aeducan' is from 'Aral', and we'd have no way to tell," concludes Miles. "I suppose I could describe his personality. ...How the hell do I describe Gregor's personality?"
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"He likes to say 'let's see what happens'."

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"Shortly after I appeared on Barrayar having married Miles, he came over for lunch, waited until Miles was busy chewing, and inquired of me point-blank if I was some sort of spy or saboteur. But he seems to have effectively accepted my statement that I am not from the earliest, though Miles's boss took longer."

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"I feel like, if I knew one of these, I would be thinking of him right now," says Mial.

"Probably you don't, then. Or haven't met him. Now that would be weird."
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"Do you give off spy/saboteur vibes that I'm not picking up on?" wonders Finnah.

"No, but before any of us were born my empire briefly occupied his, and I'm also the only haut to ever marry anyone other than a ghem-lord."

"Haut," muses Finnah. "Were you avoiding the word before? You kind of have to reverse your instincts about when to bust out the jargon with dragonishes."

"Ah."
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"Yeah," says Miles, "I caught how you all just sort of say 'Alts!' at each other and then nod knowingly."

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"Well," says Aurin, "you know - alts." He waves at Ivan.

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Miles laughs. "Yes. Alts. So you just, what - hear a word and know what it means?"

"To the extent that we have the concepts to understand it, yeah."

"Handy."

"Draconic is not totally without positive features."
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"Makes us very portable," says Finnah. "And I'm obvious from a distance so people go up to me in the street and start speaking Alteisec or whatever, wanting directions, whatever, these guys get less of that."

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"I help out when I hear somebody having language trouble, though," says Mial. "Seems the polite thing to do."

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"I have met two - no, uh, three, and a half - girls who I later hooked up with that way," says Aurin.

"...I'm now kind of curious about your total," says Ivan.

"Eh, I haven't really been counting? Depending on what you count exactly maybe fiiiive hundred...? I mean it's been more than half a century, it adds up."

"Damnation," breathes Ivan.

"I'll probably get married soonish," Aurin adds, "past two hundred now so there's no longer a question of falling behind aging-wise, and I'm sort of tired of breakups."

Ivan shakes his head in wonder.
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"Ivan has been out-Ivaned," snorts Miles.

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"Sure, by someone who didn't lose his virginity till he was a hundred and fifty or so, sounds like -"

"Hundred forty-something," Aurin volunteers, and then he looks awkwardly at his aunt and uncle, suddenly remembering that they're there. "Anyway, that's hardly fair."

"Fine, fine."
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Miles finds this exchange deeply hilarious.

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Avar and Koridaar are carrying on a murmured conversation over there and might plausibly not even have heard.

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Well, that's a relief.

"Wait, when you get married, do you just... I assume this doesn't do anything about the aging rate or the sudden stop at the end," Ivan says.

"Well," says Aurin, "no. The sort of standard life trajectory is you marry various non-dragons in series between the ages of two hundred and a thousand, and then you settle down with a dragon about your age, and if you have trouble finding one of those there's reasonably competent matchmakers."

"That's..." Ivan shakes his head.

"I mean, people do different things," shrugs Aurin, "maybe that fellow's blood has just made Aunt Koridaar immortal? But that's the trend."
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"Dad's on his second wife, but he's barely said two words about the first one," says Mial.

"Ditto mine, actually, now that I think of it," says Miles. "I wonder if they corresponded...? I don't think we can find out easily from here."
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"If you'd be comfortable asking, we probably have enough grace period for you to lean out the door and see if he's looking at his pen messages right now - do you not even know her name?"

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"I would feel very weird sending my father a random pen message about his dead first wife," says Miles. "I think I'll pass. And no, I don't."

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"I could've sworn I knew it at one point," says Ivan. "Can't call it to mind."

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"Oh well," says Miles. "We can live without knowing."

"I don't think Aeducan ever married," volunteers Stalas. "Kept house with two or three noble hunters, had five or six kids, they all made it to the genealogy records but none of them made it to the general lore."

"Two or three?" says Miles, eyebrows skyrocketing. He glances over at Avar, who is still focused on whatever quiet chat with his singular wife he is having.
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"Maintaining relationships with multiple partners has been a done thing in many places for a long time," Linya tells Miles. "It's more of a stylistic choice than anything within Cetaganda."

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"Yes, I'm aware," says Miles. "I wouldn't find it remarkable if it weren't an alt of my father. It's enough of a strain imagining him with somebody who isn't Mother, let alone imagining him with three such somebodies at once."

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"Is this a 'parents thing' or about Aral's alts specifically?"

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"Parents thing," says Ivan.

"Human parents thing?" suggests Aurin. "I don't expect her to do it anytime soon but if Mother remarried, again, I'd roll with it."
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"...There may be overlap," says Mial. "I'm having a hard time imagining Dad with somebody else, too."

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Finnah is not looking at any one or making any sounds. She's spacing out and leaning on a wall.

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"How do you guys know Finnah, anyway, she doesn't seem to be one of Linyabel or either of Mark like at all."

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"Oh," says Mial. "Uh. Has anyone mentioned yet that shrenhood is contagious...? Well, it is. Correction, it was, the miracle-workers fixed that on their way through. But a hundred and seventy years ago there were no miracle workers available, and somebody left a shren egg sitting in a public park near my house when I was a few weeks old, and out hatched Finnah, and when there's a shren and a dragon near each other in natural form regardless of intervening materials, the dragon gets got, and that is how I'm a shren. And, my parents being my parents, Mom took a personal interest in Finnah and Dad backed her, and... at first it looked like Finnah's mom was fine to keep her but then that turned out not to be true so my parents took over."

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Finnah mutters to herself but doesn't add anything to this description.

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Mark has been getting quieter as the number of people in the room increased.

But now, abruptly, he says: "I want to try an experiment. Miles, Mial, over here. Bar, can I have something in the way of a reasonably easy to learn, reasonably interesting strategy game neither of them has played before? Since I imagine the overlap is null."
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Bar comes up with a game involving colorful pegs that can be flipped over and hopped around in simple patterns but over a large and changeable board.

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"Thank you." He gestures Mial and Miles to a table and deposits the game in front of them. "Sit. Play. Stalas, you can join in if you feel like it."

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The three Mileses sit at the table.

"Is there some point to this besides getting us all to swear at each other?" wonders Miles.

"Will we swear at each other?" wonders Stalas.

"Definitely," says Mial.
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"Mial is like frightening amounts of good at board games, heads up," says Finnah. "I mean, maybe that's a thing, maybe you all are, but he's older, and he plays a lot. He's won money, playing, what-all, pel-pwon and four corners and stuff, if he picked one and stuck with it he'd place in squarewide for sure."

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Miles and Stalas grin simultaneous identical grins.

Mial glances from one to the other of them and snickers.

"Yeah," says Mial, "we're gonna swear at each other a lot."

They set up the game and start playing.
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Finnah turns into a cardinal and sits on Mial's shoulder to supervise.

Aurin sits next to Ivan to supervise from a greater distance.

Linya raises an amused eyebrow and goes back to her systematic exploitation of Bar.
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The game is... pretty even. Mial might have an edge against either of them alone, but anytime one of the three gets ahead, the other two immediately turn on him.

It takes all of two minutes before they start swearing at each other. Their attitude towards the game might be described as 'friendly viciousness'; they don't exhibit any signs of genuine anger while spitting creative obscenities across the table.
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"What is it like to care that much about pegs," wonders Ivan vaguely.

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"The pegs are not the point," growls Miles. "The point is victory."

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"But if this were... Gestured Nouns, or something, you don't get weird about Gestured Nouns even though winning it is entirely possible," says Aurin.

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"Different kind of victory," says Mial. "Oh, fuck you!" (This to Stalas, who has just eliminated one of Mial's pegs.) "You're gonna regret that, you overgrown mushroom!"

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"What's this meant to accomplish, exactly?" Ivan asks Mark.

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"I'm trying to rate Mial's - Milesness," he says. "I suspected it might be higher than baseline, and I think I'm right."

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"Why would Milesness come in amounts?" wonders Finnah.

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"There are some relevant things Mial has obviously got more of than Miles. Things like the weight and applicability of 'shren' versus 'mutie'. And, I don't know... there are certain kinds of, of personal intensity that I'm reading higher on him than Miles or Stalas. Maybe it won't make sense to someone who isn't an expert in Miles, I don't know."

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"I have lived with one for more than a century," Finnah says.

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"I spent my entire childhood and adolescence training to be one."

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"Uh, why, does it pay well?" Finnah asks.

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"It wasn't by my choice. Someone wanted Miles replaced with a substitute who could mimic him well enough to get past relevant security measures, kill a lot of his relatives, and become emperor of his planet, hopefully sparking a nasty civil war in the process. So this person created me and put me through intensive study in the subjects of Miles and murder until he could set up the switch. I didn't like him very much, and I ditched his plan as soon as I could."

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"Oh. Good on you, then," says Finnah.

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"Thanks."

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"We... don't have one of those, do we?" says Aurin.

"Uh, probably not," says Ivan. "Impersonating Mial wouldn't be much of a political act, I'm guessing? And also you probably don't have cloning."

"Not publicly. If somebody's cooked it up privately in Oridaan we wouldn't know about it," says Aurin.

"Oridaan?"

"Uh, sort of a country, more of a confederation of really rich people in the southwest corner who back each other's right to do whatever the fuck they want as long as they own the land they do it on and aren't stealing from the others."

"...So, Magic Jackson's Whole."
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"If you do have one of me, I bet he's from Oridaan, then," says Mark. "But no conquest of Komarr, no Solstice Massacre, no embittered David Galen with a laser-targeted grudge against the Vorkosigans - I think you're safe."

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"Someone did attack them once, but they used me, and I don't think I'm you," Finnah says.

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"I don't think you're me, either. You're very un-me-like."

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Linya scans Koridaar again.
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The scanner estimates her age significantly lower than before, although there aren't any obvious outward signs yet.

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Linya doesn't consider this exciting enough to interrupt the conversation Koridaar is having with Avar.

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They continue quietly talking about the implications of longevity.

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Mial is the first to be eliminated from the pegs game. He glowers at his alts and mutters nasty things under his breath.

A mere few turns afterward, Miles beats Stalas. "Ha! I win, you bastards!"

"Bastard yourself," growls Stalas. "My grandfather never tried to kill me."

"No, but your brother did," Miles retorts.

"I win 'no attempted murder by relatives'," Mial cuts in.

They set up for another game immediately.
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Mark watches this in fascination.

"I think I might have started something I won't be able to stop," he says. "Also, if anyone was wondering, any non-Miles trying to take sides at this point would be an extraordinarily bad idea."
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"Why?" asks Finnah. She is still sitting on Mial.

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"They've escalated to unforgivable sniping. Well, 'unforgivable' might be a little strong. Very nasty sniping, anyway. Which they allow each other by virtue of being alts, but any outsider stepping into that crossfire disturbs the balance and makes it all hurt again."

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Finnah decides to stop being on Mial. She flies away and shifts midair, feet on the ground. "Weird," she says.

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"I was right," he adds, "Mial is pushing harder than the other two."

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"And they're ganging up on him," says Finnah.

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"Yeah. That part might stabilize out, though. Even the other thing might, given enough time. You may have noticed that when a Miles is pushed he tends to push back."

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"Nooooo, really?" Finnah flops into a chair.

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Mark giggles.

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Meanwhile, Ivan and Aurin are telling each other about their respective current girlfriends.

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Mark idly eavesdrops.

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Vivienne's virtues have already been spoken; Siya, apparently, likes to fly, and plays the huan (an instrument) and amisro (a sport), the latter of which comes with a uniform that Aurin appreciates very much. She doesn't like kids but does like drakes and is currently between pet ones after her prior one succumbed to old age; Aurin is considering getting her one for Hearthnight. It is her favorite holiday and she's planning to be in a parade for it.

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Well, that's adorable.

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"Is this topic of conversation really that interesting to you?" Ivan wonders in Mark's direction.

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"Why wouldn't it be?"

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"You've never met Vivienne or Siya?" suggests Aurin.

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"Should that matter?"

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"I mean, I suppose if you're coming back to Barrayar you might meet Vivienne eventually but I can't imagine that this would be particularly useful prep work," says Ivan. "Is this just 'Ivans are fascinating, even when they're going on about total strangers to make point by point comparisons'?"

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"Yes."

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"I find this very peculiar," says Aurin.

"You and me both," says Ivan. "But it's not absolute! He was pleased to have missed the one of us who was six."
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Mark gives a little shudder. "Children. No thank you. Not even a child Ivan. Especially not a child Ivan."

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"He was adorable, and very well behaved if I do say so myself," says Ivan. "His cousins were yelling and he was perfectly content to play whirligig. Children on Easy Mode."

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"I fear the effect of me on children, not the effect of children on me."

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"Why?" asks Aurin.

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"I'm not very good at talking to people without inadvertently horrifying them. I don't care to test myself on people who are likely to be harder to understand and easier to upset."

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"What about a little Miles, since you're the expert on Mileses?" wonders Ivan. "If he'd been here alone."

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"...I am slightly less overwhelmingly reluctant to interact with a child Miles. But I'd still rather flee, all else being equal."

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"Now there was an obnoxious child," says Ivan.

"I thought Mial was cute when he was little, but we have a thirty-one year age gap..."
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"Which one are you calling obnoxious? The one you grew up with, or the one who was in here earlier? Or both?"

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"Both, although I noticed it less when I was also a small child," says Ivan.

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"What, even with the collapsing escape tunnels?"

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"I noticed, but I didn't attribute it to obnoxious childhood," corrects Ivan. "At the time."

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"What did you attribute it to?"

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"I don't remember. Maybe I should've asked Little Ivan."

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Mark giggles.

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Finnah goes up to the bar and asks for a book of candy recipes Elcenia doesn't have with which she may make a billion aaberik when she has her own store. She gets a fat volume in a language nobody in the bar has seen before and flops down into her chair again to read it.

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"At least you didn't know me as a small child," muses Mark. "Now there was a little fucker you didn't want to get on the wrong side of. You know they shipped me off Jackson's Whole early because I was such a troublemaker? I think they were afraid one of my escape attempts would succeed."

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"Where would you've gone?" asks Ivan.

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"Away. Anywhere. Offplanet, as soon as possible."

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"I meant more like, would you have ever turned up at home."

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"Who knows? I didn't really start getting the details of my heritage until I was already on Earth. I caught enough references beforehand that I probably could've pieced it together eventually, but it would've taken a while and I might not have cared unless I expected a warm welcome I could exploit."

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"Exploitable," snorts Ivan. "That's one way to describe Aunt Cordelia's sentiments."

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"By my five-year-old definition they certainly would've been. On the other hand, since every other clone I knew was made for the brain-transplant business, I might not have wanted to risk contact with my progenitor."

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"That whole thing," says Aurin, "is very gross."

"Yes, yes it is," says Ivan.

"At home the only people who seem particularly motivated by their potential lifespans want to bite me."

"...That's kind of gross."

"Eh, it doesn't hurt or anything."
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"...Eh?" says Mark.

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"Vampires," says Aurin. "They wind up with the lifespans of whoever they bite, averaged out, so they're very fond of dragons, we're delicious."

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"Shrens too, I imagine?"

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"Yeah, s'pose. I think I've seen Mial with bite marks."

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"Hm, since everyone else with the right knowledge base is occupied right now - how bad does it get for shrens? Pain-wise, I mean."

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"Uh - very? I don't think there's a great way to describe it - uh, shrens and miracles who've been through the whole usual course of it can completely ignore basically anything else that happens to them as long as it doesn't lose them a form. Finnah has a story about how some guy tried to mug her once when she was on a dance company trip to Baveria and she just grabbed his knife in her bare hand and grinned at him and he got scared and ran away," says Aurin. "...Then she bitched about getting blood on her dance uniform and had to fly to a light, but the rest of the girls in her company were very impressed and bought her an iced planet."

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"I have a baseless hunch that that might be related to why Mial is so... accelerated in his Milesness," says Mark. "And my baseless hunches about Miles and his alts are usually spot-on."

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"How's that meant to work?" asks Aurin.

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"Intuition formed over long years of study?" he suggests.

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"No, I mean, how's the esu thing supposed to turn up the Milesitude," Aurin clarifies.

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"Good question. Damned if I know. Something about - pressure," he says.

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"It does that, all right. He held out without the painkillers longer than me, too," Finnah remarks from where she is studying the art of confectionery.

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"Through sheer stubbornness, no doubt. What was he like?"

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"He... calmed down," says Aurin. "I didn't hang out with Finnah back then but I'm told she was a screaming terror. He just sort of tried very hard to keep busy and when it didn't work he'd go on long crying jags - when he was littler and it wasn't that bad and when he was on the drugs he was much more fluttery and excitable."

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"Yeah. Pressure," nods Mark. "Makes sense."

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"You can get your doctorate in Miles-psychology from some minimally reputable university. Doctor Mark," Ivan tosses off.

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He giggles.

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Linya scans Koridaar again.

"Lalita's blood seems to work perfectly thoroughly on elves. The scanner's estimate of your age is dropping precipitously," she says.
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"I think," says Koridaar, "once we verify the extent of the effect, I might like to take my runecasting study materials and go home. Otherwise I expect to be waiting a long time for Mial to be done swearing at his alts."

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"Yeah, this is looking like it's going to make him forget to eat, sleep, and breathe except for the purpose of swearing," snorts Finnah. "And if I stay too long I'm going to want lunch way before my lunch break. Can the bar give me a new nametag so I don't get caught without?"

Bar provides. Finnah hands over an aaber and gets change and goes out the door.
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"I suppose there is no good way to predict when the rejuvenating blood will be done with me," says Koridaar.

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"I could guess," says Linya, "but since we have no planned responses to any of the possible answers and I don't know if I'd be even close I'm not sure I should bother naming a number."

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"Yes. Well then. Perhaps I'll get started on my reading now."

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Books are supplied. Linya inclines her head and goes back to her own merry barsploitation.

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Koridaar sits with her husband and reads.

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The various Mileses swear at each other.

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"Progress has stopped," observes Linya, when she checks again a while later.
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"In that case, I'll be going now."

Koridaar has reverted to an apparent age of about twenty-five equivalent. When she stands up, she smiles brilliantly.
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"Later, Aunt Koridaar."

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Avar helps carry the books. Off they go.

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Leaving a bar population of:

Miles, Stalas, Mial,

Mark,

Ivan, Aurin,

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For certain values of meanwhile:

"Bloody Enchanted Forest is too enchanted to forest," says Jann, kicking a rock. "Isn't it supposed to be somewhere around here? Approximately? Hulloa the forest, we need to visit your princesses!"
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"It is rather notoriously difficult to enter if you mean to go there," says Milo. "Well, it wouldn't be a quest without pointless obstacles, right? Let's try going this way. I think the sparse scraggly trees are thicker in that direction."

He is correct about that. The sparse scraggly trees do start looking awfully foresty.

But nothing like any description of the Enchanted Forest.
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"Well, this is some forest. This looks like the sort of forest you get turned into a hedgehog for poaching in, remind me not to hunt anything on this trip. I suppose if the idea is not to try to go to the forest we could try going to the Caves of Fire and Night and do my thing first."

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"There is that... I don't know, something here feels off. Does something here feel off to you?"

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"You mean besides the hedgehog thing?" Pause. "Yeah, actually, this does not look like forestry class in knight school." Jann peers around. "There... are... too many sticks? On the ground? Wow, that sounds incredibly stupid when I say it."

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"And yet for once I'm not inclined to tell you so. There's - something."

He proceeds a little further.

"I think I see a break in the trees up ahead. Would you rather make for it, or turn around?"
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"Mm - well, you can't get much more 'not trying to enter the Enchanted Forest' than 'attempting to depart a clump of trees for not-a-clump-of-trees' - let's go."

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"Sure. I accept your logic."

Milo proceeds forward.

In a minute or so, the trees do indeed thin out again, and they emerge onto a grassy field that surrounds a very pretty lake. There are mountains visible in the distance. It is almost precisely the wrong direction for them to be the Mountains of Morning. Also, a few minutes ago it was midmorning and now it seems to be late afternoon.

The lake and its surroundings are subtly off in the same way as the forest. There are fewer sticks on the ground out here, but that just means the weirdness is harder to pinpoint.

Also, there are plenty of rocks. Such as the one Milo carelessly steps on that turns under his foot and pitches him sideways into a slight dip in the ground, where he encounters several more rocks.

"Fuck!" he hisses, and then continues in that vein.
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"Ah, shit," says Jann, dropping to his knees to assess the damage and render assistance. "...Also: where in fuck are we?"

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"I don't know!" exclaims Milo. "But I don't think I like it very much, wherever it is!"

His right leg is broken twice below the knee, and his right wrist isn't looking too hot either.
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"Right, I see a building over there, what say I haul you to it on the off-chance that there's something more recuperation-friendly for you to lounge on than the ground in there?"
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"Sounds good to me. Ugh. Should probably get these set first, though."

Milo always hates it when someone else has to help him set his bones. He could technically get these ones done by himself, but not being able to use his right hand makes it much more complicated and annoying. And Jann knows how, so it won't be like having to rely on a horrified stranger.
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Jann is brisk, and as gentle as possible, and not a stranger! Presently all the bones are located where they ought to be. Jann picks up his cousin and makes for the building.

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Having to be carried places is also pretty annoying, but again, if somebody has to do it Jann is one of the best possible candidates.

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Jann manages to get the door open without jostling or discharging Milo.

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"Uh, hi."

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"...What the fuck," says Milo.

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"Welcome to this puzzling interdimensional bar, additional Miles! Those are yous, except that one, and we're hims, and that's a you's wife," says Ivan.

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Mark stands up and cranes his neck to peer at the additional Miles.

"...What's your charming twist on the Shortness And Medical Problems pattern?" he inquires.
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"Cursed by a wicked fairy so my bones break if you look at them funny. But also blessed by a quick-thinking non-wicked fairy, so in a week the ones I just broke will be fine again. Nice to meet you too, Not Me."

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"That's Mark. That's Miles. That's Mial. That's Stalas. I'm Ivan, this is Aurin, I go with Miles and he goes with Mial and Stalas hasn't got one, poor Stalas. That's Linyabel, she goes with Miles."

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Jann stops staring at Linyabel and says, "I'm Jann and this is Milo and this is weird."
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"Nice to meet you all. What the fuck is going on?"

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Miles and Mial and Stalas actually stop swearing at each other in order to pay attention to their newly arrived alt.

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"Those three Mileses are having an extremely vicious game of something with pegs," says Aurin. "Is the main event. You just missed Mial's immediate family."

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"Alas, with them goes the last dose of nigh-magical healing blood, and its donor is long gone, so we can't help you very much with the bones beyond your already impressive fey blessing."

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"How did it happen that you came in the back door?" wonders Aurin.

"Well, we were looking for the Enchanted Forest, but it doesn't seem to want us to find it," says Jann, stepping further into the bar and putting Milo in a chair. "Why this place did want us to find it I couldn't say. Perhaps it's on some sort of spree."
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"There does seem to be an element of spree involved. You've also missed child versions of me, Ivan, and Miles; and another of my alts who came with a 'half-alt' of Mark. 'Alt' being what you are to those individuals who resemble you thusly and 'half-alt' being more complicated and requiring a very crowded personality."

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"And a Bothari and a, what was his name, that doctor fellow. Have you got a Bothari?"

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"...Doesn't ring a bell..."

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"He'd be Milo's bodyguard, if you had one. I don't think anyone's had a Bothari so far except the five-year-old me," says Miles.

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"Definitely not ringing any bells," says Milo. "Insofar as anyone is describable as my bodyguard it's Jann, who seems to be spoken for alt-wise. Do we now get to play an exciting game of Guess the Absent Alts? Um, Cath? Glynn? Reko...?"

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"Milo's cat, my best friend, Milo's boyfriend," Jann adds helpfully. "In that order. Separately."

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"Nothing obvious, but names aren't always definitive," says Linyabel. "Mini-me was adopted as a baby and named Nika, but my other alt and I had similar names. 'Stalas' and 'Milo' have almost nothing in common in terms of sound even absent that confounding factor."

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"I don't have a boyfriend, I have a wife. Stalas's boyfriend is Mark. Mial is single. None of us has a cat that I know of," says Miles. "What are these people's other characteristics? And why include the cat?"

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"Why not include the cat?" wonders Milo. "Her full name is Catherine. She's shy with strangers but friendly with people she knows and likes, and very few people will believe me about her glorious sense of humour."

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"I knew an Ekaterin, but she is not a cat, and we haven't spoken in some time. Do cats often have senses of humor where you're from?"
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"I would imagine so? I mean, we're not witches, so Milo can only understand her via elaborate code and guessing, but I don't think they actually depend on the presence of witches for anything except interpretive services."

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"The elaborate code and guessing is really not as hard as everyone makes it out to be," says Milo. "I don't understand why more people don't do it. Well, I guess most people who really want to understand a cat don't also have personal reasons to avoid becoming a witch."

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"Yeah? Why don't you want to be a witch?" asks Aurin.

"Milo has to be very concerned about his gender presentation because for unclear reasons things keep mistaking him for a girl - a princess, specifically. A dragon carried him off once about it."

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"Aurin's a dragon," clarifies Ivan. "Hence for some reason the eye color while he's shapeshifted like so. I'm not anything interesting but Little Ivan was a secret firebird."

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"...well, good," says Milo. "Do continue refraining from carrying me off. So if cats aren't people in your world, maybe Ekaterin is an alt of Cath, but we'd have a hard time finding out since Cath is at home keeping Reko company and you haven't talked to Ekaterin recently. Okay, how about Glynn and Reko. Glynn is... really good at chess, although not nearly as good as me. Reko is... um... the Duke of Ferdinandia? Jann, do you have any better idea of how to describe these people?"

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"Reko is very much the duke of Ferdinandia? I don't think I have any recently minted Ferdinandian coins on my person. Heeee is three years older than me - five older than Milo - pretty good at duke-ing, was all set to pine for Milo forever until I did some excruciating matchmaking in which he waited until I was just about despairing of being able to make eye contact again before telling me he was in love with Milo... pale, dark curly hair, an inch shorter than me?"

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"...um," says Miles. "This may be ringing a bell. I'm not sure it's a bell I want rung."

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"Does he sometimes say 'let's see what happens'?"

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"Yeah! He's probably whoever you're thinking of. Is yours his evil twin or something, what's so concerning?"

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"He's the emperor of my planet and a close childhood friend and at no point have I ever considered dating him," says Miles.

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"...Well, I hope yours isn't just pining forever, but you seem to be doing all right on your end."

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"Thank you," says Linya dryly.

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"If Gregor is pining after me he's doing it very very quietly," says Miles. "Good God."

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"Okay, moving on - Glynn is absurdly good at being a knight, do you have anyone like that around?"

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"My best friends are neither singularly competent nor such standouts-as-friends that they'd come up in a conversation like this and none of 'em have names that sound like Glynn," says Ivan.

"I don't even have anything like being a knight - Ivan's at least in his planet's military, I don't do anything in particular to meet absurdly good knightlike persons at," says Aurin. "I mean, I could have had a friend exactly like this Glynn person when I was seventy and just not remember it and he'd be dead of old age by now but that seems not to be how this... spree of alts... has been working."
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"...What," says Milo.

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"I'm a dragon?" says Aurin. "I'm a little over two hundred years old? Do dragons who carry off princesses not work like that?"

"I mean, they live a long, long time, but they also don't turn into humans," says Jann. "Also, I think you might remember Glynn if you had a Glynn, even if you met him a hundred and thirty years ago. He thinks I'm hilarious? Has beaten Milo at chess?"

"Well, now he's just sounding disturbingly like Mark," says Aurin.
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"Yeah, I keep being thrown by the part where you look very much like a human at the moment," says Milo. "And also I haven't really thought about the dragon lifespan problem from the dragon's perspective before, the only dragon friend I have is old enough that he might conceivably not outlive me... I really don't think Glynn is a Mark."

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"I don't know how your dragons work, but for ours up to about age two hundred you can divide by ten and get a human equivalency and then after that there is no real equivalency, just 'that's a dragon,'" says Aurin. "Mial works the same way age-wise even though he's not a dragon, he's a hundred seventy at the moment."

"What is he instead?" Jann asks, quite innocently.

"...He's a shren, and now you're going to make me explain that, aren't you. Mial, you're the one who decided to be a shren, explain it to these people."
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"A shren is almost exactly like a dragon except that, one, our wings don't work in our natural forms, and two, the magical language that both shrens and dragons natively speak loves them and despises us," says Mial. "There are some other negative side effects but that's the one I'm especially pissed off about."

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"How does a language go about despising someone?"

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"In most languages, connotations depend on usage. In Draconic they just sort of come immutably attached to words," says Mial. "And the connotations attached to 'shren' are nasty. And in general it just - it acts reasonably like a normal language under most circumstances, except with better vocabulary, but when it comes to shrens it's completely crazy. There's no way to refer to dragons and shrens as a category, despite it being pretty blatantly obvious that a category like that would make sense - I had to invent 'dragonish' in other languages, Draconic wouldn't take it. Hates us too much."

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"...That's awful," says Milo. "What the fuck kind of wicked fairy came up with that?"

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"Far as I know fairies had nothing to do with it," says Aurin. "...Actually, I think we can be pretty darn sure fairies had nothing to do with it, dragons as a species are way older than fairies as same."

"And this is something you decided to be?" asks Jann.
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"I didn't decide to become a shren, I decided to stay a shren," says Mial. "After I grew up as one through no fault of my own, and then some offworlders came through with a miracle cure offering it to everybody."

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"Well, no kidding!" says Milo, indignant on behalf of his alt. "You wouldn't catch me ducking a curse like that either!"

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"Fulfilling its end condition by marrying your boyfriend, though..."

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"If he marries your Gregor it fixes his curse?"

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"Probably? They might have to have a kid first. That's what we were trying to find the Enchanted Forest for, to ask the princesses how they did it."

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"Why is that such a crazy idea? I mean, the story behind it is a little weird, but plenty of more traditional curses end on marriage-related conditions."

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"Well, our world has no magic in it natively at all, and the kind Linyabel's currently studying from the world with Secret Firebird Tiny Ivan doesn't seem to be the faerie-curse kind, and - Stalas, any input, your world has magic?"

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"I don't think our magic is the fairy-curse kind either," says Stalas.

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"Aurin?" says Ivan.

"I mean, we have fairies, we even have curses, but the two things aren't strongly associated? Fairies are butterfly-people a few inches high, they can be wizards and I suppose they could cast curse-ish spells, but there's no reason fairy curses would be different from pixie curses or human curses or whatever."
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"And shrens are not the fault of any actual person as far as I know," says Mial.

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"You seriously mean it just happened that way? Your world fucking sucks," says Milo.

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"No kidding. Also what's the business with wizards where you're from?"

"Wizardry is a kind of magic? Mial and his mom are both wizards," says Aurin.

"Wizards are sort of like a species in our world. Whoever wants can be a witch but wizards are all the sons of other wizards. And they're often dangerous and annoying."
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"I mean, many people think I'm dangerous and annoying, but not because I'm a wizard," says Mial.

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"Whenever he appears in the newspaper, the paper gets angry letters to the editor from various dragons," says Aurin.

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"What, why?" says Milo.

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"Because I'm a shren, of course."

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"What!" says Milo. "You mean people―I thought it was just a problem with the language, that would be bad enough!"

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"I'm pretty lucky in that my dad is great about it and Aurin doesn't suck," says Mial. "But the majority of dragons just straight-up buy into it, yeah, one way or another. Even shrens kind of do. Well, did, I'm the only one left."

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"Mother's decent too," says Aurin. "I can't tell for sure if she's all the way to, you know, comfortable, but she's decent, she doesn't talk nastily about you or refuse to let you in the house or anything."

"Good for her?" says Jann uncertainly.

"Speaking of which, we're different kinds of cousins - my dad and Mial's were half-brothers, but Ivan and Miles are second cousins. You?"

"Our dads are full brothers," Jann says. "But they weren't brought up together or anything, because there was a prophecy about my dad that something terrible would befall him if he, I can't remember the wording, returned to the bosom of his family or something? So he was sent off to live somewhere else with I think it was my grandmother's best friend, who died without explaining to him that she wasn't his mom, and when he got married to my mom she was under a prophecy saying she'd marry a prince and they tried to figure out what he might be a prince of and when they showed up at the castle he turned to stone. But my mother was already pregnant. So I'm going to get some healing water out of the Caves of Fire and Night - I've been putting it off because the caves are a complicated mess and it's sort of less urgent than fixing Milo's curse and he is ill advised to go tromping around by himself - and that should fix Father okay. Yours sound suspiciously past-tense."

"Ours are both dead," says Aurin. "Spellcasting accident and a civil war."
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"This shren thing is fucking terrible," says Milo. "As far as I'm concerned you're all under a curse."

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"Draconic is mostly really useful!" protests Aurin.

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"And my bones are useful if I'm chained up somewhere and need to get out suddenly, but that doesn't make them not a curse."

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"You too, huh?" says Miles.

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"That was hypothetical, it's been on my mind considering the frequency with which various sorts of people mistake me for a princess and decide to kidnap me―you mean you've done it?"

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"Yep. It's even less fun than it sounds," says Miles.

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"I hope you won't miss the ability too much."

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"It only came up the once. With any luck it won't come up again."

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"Magic healing blood thing," Ivan says helpfully to the newcomers. "Fixed Miles's bones and the teeny one's too."

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"I bet it wouldn't have done much for mine," says Milo. "That fairy was really ticked off."

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"Lalita's blood has not been tested against magical effects, it's true."

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"Is no one going to be alarmed that Milo might attempt to lift the dragonish curse, or am I the only one who caught that?" wonders Mark.

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"Wait, what? You can't take Draconic," says Aurin. "We need Draconic. How would you even -? Well, don't try it!"

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"I don't want to take the whole thing away, just change the parts of it that are blatantly stupid and evil," says Milo.

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"How about no!" says Aurin. "You're not even a speaker, you don't know what you're doing!"

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"I know a blatantly stupid and evil thing when I see it!"

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"As much as I appreciate the sentiment, Milo, calm down," says Mial.

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"Thank you," Aurin says to his cousin.

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"I agree with him that it's blatantly stupid and evil, I just don't think he has the means to actually do anything about it and he'd upset a lot of people trying," says Mial.

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"Think before you speak," says Mark.

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"I don't have the means to do anything about it yet," says Milo.

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Aurin utters a (Draconic) word which fails to render except as the subconsciously understood form of [rueful swearing]. "Mark, please, use your - super-Mileses-understanding to put him off this" [swearing translating loosely to 'notion'] "or so help me I'm flying him out over the lake and feeding him to the squid, [swearing swearing swearing]."

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"You are not feeding my alt to the squid," says Mial. "Milo: it's my problem and if you want to do anything about it you're going through me."

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"Fuck you too, Crazy Dragon Jann!" says Milo. "You, Mial, are clearly bewitched by your crazy language curse! Why am I the only one who's upset about this?"

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"If I had to hazard a guess," says Mark, "I'd say you were used to expecting a certain level of benignness from the unaltered workings of a universe, and when something bad happens you expect both that there is a person whose fault it is and that something can be done about it. Mial didn't help anything by implying you weren't up to the task, that's a button all Mileses possess and he should have bloody known better."

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"Would it be productive to suggest distracting Milo with the pegs game?"

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"If you learned that your alt had spent a hundred and seventy years subjected to subtle mental torture via widespread mind control, would you be easily distracted from the topic of making it stop? Milo's not wrong, I don't think. He's just unduly enthusiastic. Milo, I'm sure you agree that the problem is a delicate one and alarming people by yelling about it isn't going to get you any closer to a functional solution."

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"If I learned this and she wanted me to back off? I would allow myself to be distracted."

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Milo growls.

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"I suggest that the entire league of Mileses go up to Stalas's room where they can get to know each other and Mial can talk Milo down without outside interference," says Mark.

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Aurin grumbles to himself. Ivan pats him on the shoulder.

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"Fine. Jann'll have to carry me there, though."

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Jann scoops him up. "Lead the way, Other Milos."

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Stalas leads. Miles and Mial follow.

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And Jann carries his cousin and puts him down someplace suitable in the room. "Somebody'll let me know when you want to come down again, yeah?"

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The suitable place is definitely the bed.

"Yeah," says Milo.
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"Right. Please do not inspire my bicentennial dragon alt to madness."

And off goes Jann.
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"Are you sure this is going to work?" Aurin asks Mark.

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"Yes. They don't ultimately disagree."

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Jann reappears.

"They don't?" says Aurin. "I mean, Mial thought of it but eventually he like - saw sense."
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"He saw that you were upset," Mark corrects.

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Aurin mulls that over, disconcerted.

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"It's possible he would've come around even so. I can assume from your example that most dragons would be upset to have their language rearranged, and he'd care about that even without the personal connection. But the agreement they come to is going to look like this: Draconic is blatantly stupid and evil, but it's not worth it to change how it works for everyone if you hate the idea that much, and changing how it works for Mial alone is an acceptable alternative. At which point it really does become Mial's problem to be dealt with at Mial's discretion, and Milo will be content to help."

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"I guess I can live with that," says Aurin.
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"Good. I would begin to have opinions about it if potentially risky and certainly nonconsensual mind-altering somethingorother was more clearly on the table than 'Milo had an immediate dramatic reaction'."

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Jann sits with his alts.

"So tell me about ourselves," he says.

His alts begin to catch him up on the state of the art of Ivans. And teach him to play their most recent card game.

Their conversation meanders. It comes up in conversation that Jann is the only single one. It is unspoken but understood that if there were another single one they'd be attempting to surreptitiously sneak off and cheat on their mutual absence of girlfriend, but this is not the case and none of them is too broken up about it. Jann and Ivan explain horses to Aurin. Ivan explains spaceships to Jann and Aurin. Jann explains to Aurin how his princess-napping dragons work and Aurin explains to Jann how non-princess-napping dragons work. Aurin explains to Jann and Ivan the curlicues of vocabulary that screw over Mial and that Milo has proposed throwing out the entire language to deal with - "siad" versus "shren", the exclusive turn of "siaddaki", etcetera. They discuss their respective tastes in olives, music, brunettes, and socks. Jann has his sword with him and shows it off.
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And eventually, Miles comes downstairs.

"The league is ready to rejoin civilized company," he reports.
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Jann hops up and goes to fetch Milo.

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Ivan meanders back to the topic of Draconic, meanwhile. "So when you say I can't speak Draconic you obviously don't mean I can't learn words from it. They don't mix and match right?"

"They don't mix and match like a regular language, anyway," says Aurin.

"So you can't - take them apart for suffixes? You wouldn't understand if I did it?"

"I mean, I'd understand. It's a thing you'd be doing in English, with loanwords, and I speak English, it's not going to be gibberish if you're doing it in some sensible fashion."
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Down comes Jann, carrying Milo and followed by Mial and Stalas.

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"So I don't get it," says Ivan, "how the language is constraining anything to speak of, if you'd understand it perfectly well if I said something like - I have what, three words to work with here - shrennaki."

Aurin startles rather as though someone has popped a balloon inside his chest.
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Mial claps both hands over his mouth, wide-eyed, and makes a sort of quiet strangled shrieking sound.

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"You don't go in for bloody half-measures, do you?" exclaims Mark, sounding for once in his life not at all charmed by an Ivan-utterance.

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"What the - what?" says Ivan. "What'd I say?"

"You know exactly what you said!" says Aurin, sounding vaguely faint. "You couldn't have gotten that over with while he was upstairs?"

"Why didn't you teach me how to say anything else in Draconic then?"

"I didn't know you were going to do that! It would never have occurred to me!"
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Jann looks highly uncomfortable. He puts Milo in a chair.

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Mial is still frozen, his initial sounds of distress trailing off into a quiet keening. His hands creep up to cover his face and he sinks to the floor and curls up in a little ball and cries.

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"For fuck's sake," says Mark. He gets up and goes over to Mial and sits on the floor next to him and hugs him.

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Mial shudders.

"I don't know what's going on but I'm very alarmed about it," says Miles.
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"I was not listening closely enough to the conversation to know what the offending word even supposedly means."

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"Don't bloody say it again," says Aurin to Ivan. "It doesn't. Mean anything. He just wants it to."

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Mial shrieks very loudly with some combination of anger and despair.

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"I don't understand how this never occurred to anyone before," says Ivan. "I'm sorry!"

Aurin drops his head into his hands and groans.
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Mark hugs Mial and pets his back soothingly.

"I know what it means and I know you know what it means, all right?" he murmurs. "And we could get it through to all your alts without much trouble. That's a decent start right there. H'sh."
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Mial whimpers despairingly and tries to burrow into Mark's lap.

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Aurin considers this tableau.

And then he coughs, attempts to defer to Mark's expertise, and mumbles, "I know what it - means."

Ivan opens his mouth.

"You," says Aurin, "you shut up."
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"Thank you," sighs Mark, with visible relief. "That's given us years right there." He continues snuggling Mial.

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Mial does indeed seem to relax somewhat, although the measurement of his distress in years is not an immediately obvious one.

...Miles, though, thinks he might understand it. He looks at Mial and Mark with unhappy recognition.
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"Years?"
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"Please tell me that was some sort of crazy Mark utterance and not what I think it was," says Miles.

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"Sorry, no," says Mark. "He needs something he can't have, and it hurts intolerably."

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"Are you saying that - ah, hell, Ivan, what did you do."

(Ivan, forbidden to speak, does not reply.)
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"That word is the exact antithesis of the things about Draconic that hurt him, and Draconic won't let him have it. It wasn't even possible to think before someone outside the trap came up with it," says Mark. "And now he's bloody Tantalus."

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"And," Miles extrapolates, "the more people understand and acknowledge the forbidden vocabulary, the less it feels like eternally starving under a tree full of fruit?"

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"Yes."

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(Ivan is forbidden to speak but he can send Linya a pen message.)

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Linya reads her pen message.

"Does saying it help?" she inquires.
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"Prediction unclear. Too many factors."

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"Well, I've been filled in on what it means now, to whatever extent that helps."

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"Mm. Miles, I delegate to you the task of finding out."

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Miles sends Linya a pen message.

What does it in fact mean? I think I was upstairs for most of the context.
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Linya forwards him Ivan's note.

Aurin said Draconic for dragon is "siad" and "shren" is also Draconic and apparently the major dragon-ego-puffing-word for "awesome in a dragon way" is "siaddaki" so I just did the OBVIOUS THING HOW DID NO ONE THINK OF THIS BEFORE so obviously it means awesome in a shren way? And apparently now the world is ending.
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I think your understanding qualifies as positive if you acknowledge that 'awesome in a shren way' is a coherent concept, Miles pens back. Draconic kind of scares me now.

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It seems to be almost malicious. I acknowledge the coherence of the concept.

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"Count me and Linya both under correct comprehension," vouches Miles.

"I still hardly know what in fuck is going on," says Stalas.

Miles shows him the pen exchange. Stalas nods. "All right, me too, then."
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Milo makes plaintive faces at Miles.

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"You're under bloody interdiction," says Miles, "but here—" He trots over and shows Milo the exchange between himself and Linya.

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Milo scowls thunderously.

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"Milo, unsurprisingly, is thoroughly in Mial's court here," says Miles.

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"Ah, can I...?"

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"Sure," says Miles. He shows Jann the messages.

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Jann reads them.

"Yeah," he says, "me too."
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Mark continues hugging Mial. "All right?" he murmurs.

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Mial sniffles and hides his face in Mark's chest and nods.

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"Thank you all for your contributions," says Mark. "We may yet postpone his suicide indefinitely."

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"I'm not sure if I should be apologizing for setting Ivan up -" Aurin ignores Ivan's vigorous disgruntled nod - "or trying to figure out how to apologize on behalf of my species or what, but I'm sorry."

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"It's not really either of your faults as such. The situation was fundamentally unstable to begin with and can be entirely blamed on Draconic being stupid and evil. But thank you," says Mark.

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Aurin makes a face but doesn't try to rebut the assessment of Draconic.

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"Capable of speaking yet?" inquires Mark of Mial.

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"You're doing such a good job of speaking for me, I don't see why I should bother," Mial mumbles. "Ugh. Ugh ugh."

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"I could stick my head out the door and get Finnah," says Aurin. "Your parents too maybe."

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"Parents almost certainly a good option. I don't know enough about Finnah to guess her effect."

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"She used to be a shren too," says Aurin, "she'll - she'll get it, I think. And she'll be right outside the door anyway because it's at her work." He goes to the door and opens it, looking for Finnah and his aunt and uncle. His aunt and uncle were apparently able to teleport away before time stopped.

Finnah's there. "All done?"

"Nnnnot exactly. I taught my alt three words of Draconic and he mixed, uh, a suffix with something else, and now Mial is having a breakdown, come back."

"A suffix with something else."

"Yeah." Does he have a crystal to Aunt Koridaar or Uncle Avar on him... nope. "Do you have crystals to his parents, too?"

"I have one to Koridaar."

"Give it here." Aurin takes it and strikes it.
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"Yes?"

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"Mial is having a breakdown come back to the candy shop Uncle Avar too please."

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"...Will do."

Barely a tick later, Koridaar and Avar appear.
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"What's going on?"

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"Just - come in."

Aurin ushers them all three inside and shuts the door.

He gestures helplessly at Mial.
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"...This does not," says Avar, "exactly answer my question..."

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Koridaar hurries to where Mark is hugging Mial, and does some hugging of her own.

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Linya produces the explanatory pen messages and goes over to display them for Avar and Finnah.

"Holy fucking hell," says Finnah. And she goes and hugs Mial too, as best she can.
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Mial is extremely hugged.

"Thanks," he sniffles.
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"Oh, dear..." murmurs Avar, looking pained.

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"I know," says Aurin, also pained and in similar ways.

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He goes over to the Mial hugpile.

"I don't know what to say... I wish you could just have the damn word," he says. "You more than deserve it."
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Mial sniffles.

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"Look," says Finnah, "are there or are there not bloody miracle-workers running around on our planet?"

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"There are," says Avar, encouraging this line of reasoning since Mial doesn't seem to be up to words of any kind just now. "You've met some, I believe."

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"And they left a communication crystal. It is very premature to be a weepy lump."

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"It caught me off-guard," says Mial, slightly muffled by hug. "I wasn't thinking - but look, what if they can't - or what if they can't without changing all of Draconic, which I just got done telling my alt he couldn't do—" Sniffle.

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"You haven't asked yet!" says Finnah. "They're miracle workers!"

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"If they can't do it without changing Draconic for everyone then having to decide whether or not to ask them might actually kill me," Mial whispers.

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Finnah hugs him harder.

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Hugs. Yes. Those. Good. Hugs are good.

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Aurin starts pacing. Then he stops and sits back down, head in his hands.

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Mark hugs Mial and thinks inscrutable Mark thoughts.

(With the right push, he could get Mial going. Straight out the door to demand himself a miracle come hell or high water. And then if they couldn't deliver—well. That would end badly. Mark, personally, does not at this point give a flying shit about the sanctity of Draconic, but he cares very much about Mial's emotional stability.)
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"I could go ask instead," Finnah says. "If that would be better."

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"Yes."

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"Uh, Avar, can you teleport home to get me the crystal, I can't leave the store -" Finnah unhugs to make for the door.

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"Of course."

Out they go. He fetches her the crystal.
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Finnah sells somebody a chocolate shaped like a squirrel, and then calls the miracle workers.

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"Yes?"

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"Hi. Uh, Mial, he's the one who wanted to stay a shren, he's, not in a very good place right now? He -" Finnah pauses to wonder how in the hell the miracle workers got here anyway. Perhaps it involved magic doors; no one has claimed to have summoned them. But that's not her priority right now. "Ran into a word that he wants to be a word, very, very badly, but Draconic won't take it, but he doesn't want to screw up Draconic for people who want it like it is. Can miracles fix this problem?"

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"Miracles can fix most things," says the miracle worker. "Um. I might have to understand more about what you mean by this word..."

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"So Draconic for dragon is 'siad' and Draconic for 'awesome, dragon-style, rah rah so great' is 'siaddaki' and we met this human who was like 'oh this probably works like suffixes I'm used to!' and said 'shrennaki' and Draconic won't take it, it's not a word, but Mial needs for it to be a word."

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"...That is very weird," says the miracle worker. "Um. This is a magical problem, correct? Draconic is a magical language... can I teleport to where you are and see you say all that again? I can see magic, it is useful for this sort of thing."

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"Yeah, you can, I'm just at work."

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Now there is a miracle worker there!

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"What exactly d'you need me to say?" asks Finnah. (She starts arranging chunks of brittle on the sample plate and offers him one.)

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"'Siad' and 'siaddaki' and 'shren' and 'shrennaki', so I can see what Draconic really thinks of them," he says. "Ooh. Candy. Thank you."

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"Siad, siaddaki, shren, shrennaki. You're welcome."

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He goes from intrigued to mildly nervous to unhappy to downright alarmed over the course of those four words.

"That's terrible," he says. "That's completely—um. Here. I'll just." He does nothing obvious, but then he says: "'Shrennaki', try that," and it is definitely a word in definitely a language that bears a strong resemblance to Draconic but expresses no intrinsic opinions about shrens.
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Finnah beams. "What'd you do?"
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"I made a magical language with a lot of properties in common with Draconic, including its whole vocabulary to start with, excluding Draconic's terrible opinions, and made myself its first attached speaker, and 'shrennaki' just sort of happened automatically. If you would like to be attached to it too, you can do that, it is compatible with your magic."

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"I'll take it but Mial should see first -" And she makes for the door again.

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"You can pick it up whenever you like now that you know it exists."

Lazarus vanishes away.
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"Mial - shrennaki," says Finnah, "he just, he picked up Draconic and made a duplicate one that isn't such an asshole, you can just kind of - have it!"

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...Mial bursts into relieved tears.

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"Oh thank fuck," says Mark.

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Finnah goes and hugs Mial again.

Aurin is managing to be more relieved than disturbed.
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"The crisis is very thoroughly over," says Mark, in case anyone was still in doubt about that.

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"No kidding," Mial agrees, hugging Finnah hard. "Shrennaki. Damn that feels good."

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Finnah giggles. "And he said you can just have it attached to you now you know it exists, I did it, it's nicer."

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"No kidding. Wow." He wipes his face. On Mark's sleeve. "Um. Sorry for having a complete breakdown, everybody."

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Finnah pats him.

"Am I allowed to talk yet?" asks Ivan plaintively.

"Yes, fine, whatever," says Aurin.
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Mial sighs and hugs Finnah again, and then hugs Mark, and then hugs his mom.

"Well, that was exhausting."
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"It looked it. It's fixed to everyone's satisfaction?"

"Yep," says Finnah. "Back to work I go." She ruffles Mial's hair so some of it stands up and traipses out.
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Mark giggles.

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The collective mood of the Ivans is recovering! Yay.

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That is good.

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With Finnah and Mial's parents back in Elcenia yet again, the contents of the bar are now

Miles, Mial, Milo, and Stalas,

Ivan, Aurin, and Jann,

Mark,

and Linya -
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—and the approximately Miles-sized but not especially Miles-shaped girl who just walked in the door.

"...okay," she says, looking around warily. "I'm confused. Confused is what I am."
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"Bar?" asks Linya. "Who is this?"

This is an alt of Mark.

"An entire alt of Mark?"

Yes.

"Congratulations, Mark."
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"She's got her Miles on," Mark observes.

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"I've what?" says, apparently, an entire alt of Mark.

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"Mark thinks you are currently pretending to be someone else, who you are probably closely related to and likely cloned from."

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"...I object to this interpretation of events, first of all, and second of all what the hell?"

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"That's Mark," says Ivan, pointing out Mark, "that's Miles, who he was cloned from, and the rest of us are alternate universe versions of or hangers-on to miscellaneous Mileses, which this bar seems to be having a theme day about. If you are a Mark you will probably find me and my alts here inexplicably fascinating, although maybe not while you're doing your whatever-Miles-as-a-girl's-name-is impression."

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"Solvei," she says. "My name is Solvei."

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"...And is that your name as in the name of the person you're... currently being, or as in the name of the person you otherwise are?" asks Miles.

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"Currently. Sis doesn't actually have a name as such. We couldn't come up with anything she liked enough to keep."

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"Advantages of being a Vor, I guess, a default name comes with the package. Anyway, I'm Ivan, that's Jann, this is Aurin, that's Milo he goes with Jann, that's Mial he goes with Aurin, that's Stalas he hasn't got one, that's Linyabel she's Miles's wife."

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"What's wrong?" says Mark.

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"Nothing is wrong. I am fine. More importantly, how did you all get here, why, and from where?"

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"Through the door. The establishment is a magical interdimensional bar which is, as Ivan said, having a sort of theme day, although it seems not to be strictly limited to Mileses - we also saw an alt of me who was married to what Bar called a 'half-alt' of you and Mark. Why it is having this theme day is a mystery; the bar herself is sapient but does not control the door per se. Miles, Ivan, Mark, and I are from a world that Miles has named Nexus. Stalas is from Thedas, Mial and Aurin and their friends and family who aren't here right now from Elcenia, and Milo and Jann from a world they haven't come up with a name for."

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"Chronicle," says Milo.

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"Okay..."

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"Explain 'Sis' and 'we'," says Mark.

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"No," says Solvei.

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Mark regards her with puzzled concern.

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"I'm tempted to try saying 'pretty please' but I'm not sure she's been exposed enough to our inexplicable fascinatingness yet," remarks Aurin.

"Maybe it won't work on her anyway," says Jann.
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"It worked on Lalita, and he was only a half-alt. But maybe." Pause. "Have you got one of us natively?"

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"No," says Solvei.

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"Something is wrong here and I am not at all sure what it is," says Mark.

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"Yeah, that was a..." Miles trails off with a frown.

"Yeah," says Stalas.

Mial doesn't say anything, but he also frowns.
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"...Is it possible we can help? If your outfit is anything to go by Nexus has you beat on technology and we've also got some varyingly portable magic."

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"Varyingly portable magic?"

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"Another alt of Miles, who inconveniently was five and embarrassingly had an adopted sister who was my alt, came from a universe similar to ours but with magic. We have acquired textbooks on it. Elcenia also has a lot of magic, although accessibility is awkward given the situation with the door - I do get the impression that you could get a fair amount done with it as long as none of it needed to be performed or sustained outside of Elcenia, though."

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"Okay, colour me intrigued."

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"I'm a wizard," volunteers Mial.

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"Yeah? How's that working out for you?"

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"Pretty well!"

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"There must be some way to—right, I'm sorry, but it has to be done," says Mark. And he puts on Miles.

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"I know this alts thing seems crazy," says Mark-as-Miles, "but it's completely legitimate. Witness the evidence that I, for multiple values of I, am an alt of you, for corresponding values of you."

The actual Miles looks pained but doesn't voice an objection.
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"So," says Mark, reverting to his standard self, "you can stop acting like we might try to kill you at any moment."

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"...Why would we kill her? Who even does that, kills random girls from other universes who stumble into bars?"

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"I have not been acting like that!" says Solvei.

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"Has she been acting like that?" says Miles, somewhat disquieted.

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"As though deep in enemy territory with next to nothing in the way of allies," says Mark.

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"Your fucking outside view," mutters Solvei.

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"...Have you not met your—you?"

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"She's been dead for two centuries, so not as such, no."

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"...Wait, if that's so, then how... do you..." Stalas waves his hands vaguely.

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"Are you doing a convincing Solvei impression based solely on historical records? If you haven't met I assume the solution to the puzzle isn't 'you're immortal for some reason'..."

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"I believe I've mentioned objecting to that interpretation," says Solvei.

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"Perhaps you could explain just what it is you object to," says Mark.

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"I'm not a 'convincing Solvei impression' any more than you're a convincing Mark impression."

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"I've been informed I'm not welcome in the Miles club, even under corresponding conditions."

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"Not by me you haven't!"

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"...So... your assertion is that you currently are Solvei, foundationally, in a way that I am not correspondingly Miles when I am Miles?"

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"Yes. There is a fake Solvei available at this address, but I am not she."

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"...Hence, perhaps, 'Sis' and 'we' and now 'outside view'?"

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"Why would you need a fake Solvei too if you have a 'real' one?"

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"...How old are you?"

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"Sixteen."

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"And, by whatever means you might have been created, it wasn't for a clone substitution plot targeted at your original. Because she has been dead for two centuries."

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"You know what," says Solvei, "I am tired of being the center of attention here. Shocking, I know."

She goes back to the door and opens it. Not quite leaning through, she calls, "C'mere, I found a weird and potentially useful thing!"
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"Is it weirder and more potentially useful than the furball?" calls back a voice.

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...Linya stands up.

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"Emphatically yes on both counts!"

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Here is a Bella.

Blink.

"...It's a magic mirror? With really good aesthetic taste?" she guesses.
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"It's an interdimensional bar, I'm you from an alternate universe, come in, come in."

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Bella comes in. "If you're me from an alternate universe..."

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Linya hands her the napkin with the dense explanation of door mechanics on it.

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Solvei wants a look at this napkin.

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Bella will allow shoulder-looking.

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"Apparently all the short boys are me," Solvei mentions, "except for that one," she gestures to Mark, "who's apparently Sis. And they kept asking me intrusive personal questions I don't want to answer. Maybe yours will be better behaved."

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"Are you well-behaved?" Bella asks Linya.

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"I will ask you plenty of personal questions, but I think you will mind less. It's a pity you missed the other two of us."

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"They also claim to have varyingly portable magic. I'm not sure how much I trust them."

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"...Well, how me are you? For example, is your name also Isabella Marie Swan, because if it is we have to think of something else."

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"I'm you down to the three questions unless you're the odd out, but I am from another planet and time so there are differences. Name inexact - there was an Isabella, but Marie and Swan are just you, I'm Linyabel Miriat Vorkosigan. Unless Bar tells me that you are just a convincing stunt double -"

She is your alt.

"- thank you, Bar, then you don't have to trust me much at all, I'll just trust you instead, how does that sound?"
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"...Sounds good. And me-ish. I dunno, Solvei, someone would have to be trying really hard to fuck with us like so, wouldn't they?"

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"Okay, yes, they would," says Solvei. "And Mark seems very keen to help me solve my problems. Cheer up, Mark, it's not as bad as all that."

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"...From my outside view, I can only conclude that it's worse," says Mark. "What's happening to you?"

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"Again with the intrusive personal questions!"

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Meanwhile:

"Here, Isabella, have a holo-pen with magic textbooks on it. ...Bar, maybe you can help us with electrical backwards compatibility so she can charge the charger base."
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"I prefer Bella," says Bella, sitting next to her alt and investigating the pen while a suitably universal power converter appears already configured for twenty-first century America. "You explained the door, how does the bar work?"

Very well, thank you.

Giggle.
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"She can produce near-arbitrary things - nothing magic, alive, enormous, or too hazardous, no arbitrage, otherwise very accommodating. First drink is free, everything else costs, but assume you have unlimited funds. I invented the holo-pen."

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"And what exactly is a holo-pen?"

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"Really, really useful!" says Miles.

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Linya draws a squiggle in the air. "I'm not sure how informative saying it's like a comconsole only it's yea big and does this can be, but that is the usual summary."

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"I'm getting a reasonably clear picture," says Solvei.

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"She wants one," says Mark.

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Linya hands her the pen catalog that Mial abandoned when he started playing the pens game. "Pick your color."

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She glances over the selection. "Silver, fountain option. Please."

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Linya gets one from the bar and hands it over with a charger and power converter.

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"Thank you very much."

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Mark sighs.

"Bella, is it? Do you know the nature of the horrible disaster shadowing Solvei's life? I don't ask that you tell me, but do you know?"
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"Hey, Solvei, do I know the horrible disaster shadowing your life or is he trying to get unauthorized information?"

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"Ugh," sighs Solvei. "Okay, Mark, if you insist on being this way, you can talk to Sis."

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"What in God's name are you trying to accomplish here?"

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"You don't trust us. And yet, there is some sort of horrible disaster shadowing your life, and I want to help. And the reason you don't trust us is because of the horrible disaster, which I respect on an emotional level but think is tremendously counterproductive on a practical one. So I want you to tell us what your horrible disaster is so that we can get started on solving it for you. As I'm sure you know, instances of Miles are pretty good at solving things."

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"...Does the name Ghyslaine Royer mean anything to you?"
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"...Not immediately."

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"Solvei's mother's stalker ex?"

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Mark hisses softly under his breath. "I don't know that we have one, but I can extrapolate. Perhaps it would be relevant for me to mention at this juncture that I am a trained assassin."

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Linya glances at Bella. "Is Bella allowed to help explain or do you still require her silence?"

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"No, go ahead, the cat's out of the bag now anyway."

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"Ghyslaine has magic powers, which we have somewhat incomplete information about but which might thwart an assassin, especially since assassinating her organic body will only inconvenience her."

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"What must I assassinate instead?"

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"Her soul gem."

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"...I'm still a little unclear on the exact nature of this horrible disaster," says Miles. "But, um, I don't want to pry if that would be intrusively personal."

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"Ghys is Solvei's legal guardian and I doubt that you need all that many details on the ways this is unpleasant."

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"Mark has apparently already figured out that there's torture involved," says not-Solvei.

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"My creator had a somewhat differently-targeted obsession with Aral Vorkosigan, Miles's father," says Mark. "Hence the fact that I am a trained assassin."

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"I need a lot of fake Solveis because I wouldn't do that to the real one."

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"Yeah."

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"Aurin is a firebreathing dragon," mentions Ivan.

"I'm not usefully a firebreathing dragon," says Aurin. "Mark has a better shot of figuring out how to assassinate a gem than I do firebreathing or no."
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"Aren't they just," says Mark.

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"Oh, did the thing happen?"

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"Solvei's sister/substrate is inexplicably charmed by the inexplicatly charming nature of Ivans, yes."

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Of Ivans, Ivan and Aurin are best positioned to high-five, so they do.

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Giggle.

"But, in all seriousness: how do we assassinate a gem."
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"Hit it with a rock?"

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"Hard to get close enough without her noticing and killing you. Not sure how big a rock it would take to actually damage the thing."

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"If any of your portable magic can just casually remove the gem from her person that's most of the job done already. She has a range limit on how close she has to be to control her body with it."

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"...And I'll bet this range limit does not extend between worlds," says Mial. "I could summon it to Elcenia. Might be a little tricky to set up, though, and I wouldn't have much of an idea what to do with it afterward."

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"Still, that's pretty fucking promising," says not-Solvei.

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"Afterwards, you smash it with a rock," says Jann.

"And if that doesn't work," says Aurin, "you put it on the moon."
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"Or have one of you red-groups throw it in the sun, maybe," says Mial. "There are options. I just want to be sure of the plan before I try it, for once in my life."

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"...It's also possible that you could leave your universe," says Mark. "If you liked. Stalas is leaving his."

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"There isn't a whole lot in my universe I'm fond of, but I do like Bella. If the gem assassination works..."

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"Which you might not be able to conclusively verify without leaving the vicinity of the door."

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"The universe has a furball who wants to give me a different set of magic powers than you lot have on offer so I can use them to routinely save people from monsters. You'd have a kinda hard time selling me on skipping out."

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"I'm all in favour of saving people from monsters, I'm just a lot more in favour of conclusively getting the fuck away from Ghys."

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"I wouldn't blame you. If the universe holds no appeal and they can't assassinate her soul gem for you don't let me stop you."

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"Saving people from monsters is well and good, but it helps if the first person you save is yourself," says Stalas. "And sometimes that means leaving."

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"Where to?"

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"Me personally? Nexus," says Stalas. "I'm sure you could come too if you liked."

"This is turning into a farcical parade," says Miles.

"That's not a no," says Stalas.

"It isn't," sighs Miles.
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"It's really going to be a trick parading all these people out of Vivienne's parents' house without getting attention for it."

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"Yeah," says Miles.

"Alternately, you could come to Elcenia," says Mial. "I'm sure Mother would take you in. She does that."
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"So I have options," she says. "Good to know. What about the gem assassination? Between hitting it with a rock and throwing it into the sun, what other destructive options are available?"

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"Disintegrator. I can see if there's anything appropriate in the runecasting books."

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"Disintegrator sounds very promising."

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"There might even be a chute convenient to one or the other of the door options in Nexus."

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"I think I'd want to at least ask furball before vouching for the harmlessness of interactions between a soul gem and a household disintegrator or a sun that's in use qua sun."

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"Well, do we want to ask furball?"

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"We probably want to ask furball."

Bella heads for the door. The door disappears.

"...Um."
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"Somebody doesn't want us to ask furball, apparently."

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"It happened to Mark, too, but not for furball-related reasons; it might be something else."

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"Something such as what?"

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"Unclear, but Mark doesn't have a furball as far as I know, so it it not a phenomenon invariably related to furballs."

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"Furball won't talk to boys or anyone who passes age eighteen without making a furball deal for magic powers, so I don't think Mark has a furball."

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"I don't contend that the phenomenon is invariably related to furballs, just that it is in this case."

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"It does seem suspicious." Bella steps back from the door (it reappears), then approaches it again; the door continues to exist until she gets very close to it. "And now it seems more suspicious."

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"I wonder why the door is choosing to fuck with us in this way."

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"Couldn't tell you."

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"Anyway. Now I have to decide whether to risk throwing Ghys's gem in the sun or whatever, or just fuck off to parts unknown."

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"Suns not in use qua suns are available, albeit inconveniently."

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"And anyway, if I get somebody throw it in the sun I can't be that sure that she's dead and nothing weird happened to make her instead not be dead."

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"You don't know that hitting it with a rock won't work."

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"Yeah. But I don't know that it will, either. Hard to verify."

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"There exists such a thing as a transworld scry..." says Mial.

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"I assume that does what it sounds like it does and doesn't conjure waffles, but how do you propose to apply it?"

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"Well, to verify the deadness of this Ghyslaine person to," a vague wave at the nameless not-Solvei, "her satisfaction."

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"Ghyslaine is a rock. We do not know what a dead rock looks like. And the door won't let us ask the furball."

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"Right, but we can at least rule out the possibility that incinerating or disintegrating the rock somehow caused it to reappear intact next to its body," says Mial. "Which seemed to be the sort of thing she was worrying about. Because if no such thing happens, the rock will remain in a separate universe from the body and consequently unable to operate it, is I think the going theory? For that matter a transworld scry can also verify that that part worked out as predicted."

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"Yeah, as far as that goes it should work. Furball was pretty explicit about the range limit."

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"He's right, though, I'll believe it a lot more easily if I can actually watch her body being inoperable from another universe."

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Nod.

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"Why'd Solvei keep dodging the subject of your Ivan, by the way?"

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"Well, because she's also been dead for two centuries, you see, and Solvei's upset about it."

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"Aw," says Ivan.

"Does Solvei want a hug?" asks Aurin.
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"...maybe."

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"I mean, perhaps it won't help, as we're all boys and you said she, but we do still have arms."

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"It's true, you do."

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Ivan waves one of the arms that he has.

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"Okay. Yes. Solvei wants hugs."

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Behold Solvei. She is so huggable.

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Aurin is the one who offered and he is the one who goes and hugs her.

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Hug.

"Thanks."
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"No problem."

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More hug.

"It's weird to miss someone I never actually met."
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"I'd imagine. How do you even have enough information to miss her?"

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"Ghyslaine stalked my family kind of a lot."

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"I don't think we have one of those. Do we have one of those?" wonders Ivan.

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"We might," says Mark. "Tell us more about your parents, Solvei."

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"What about them? Their names were Anastasia and Claude Koskin. They were assassinated when I - original me - was sixteen. Big fire, house burned down, all of us died. Mom's the one Ghys had the unholy stalker crush on. They used to date before Mom met Dad."

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"...It doesn't completely fit," says Mark, "but I'm almost tempted to say Ges Vorrutyer."

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"Who?"

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"Dead admiral. Bad reputation. Cordelia Naismith was briefly a war hero for killing him when he captured her during the invasion of Escobar, but I'm not sure whether she actually did it; there was a lot of shit going on around then. Still, the name's close and the tone fits."

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"Wonder why the genders are all backwards," says Ivan.

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"I'm pretty sure we don't have one of these," says Jann.

"Us either," agrees Aurin, handing Solvei off to Ivan for further hugs.

"Have you got - did you have, I suppose - a Reko?" wonders Jann.
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"And who is Reko?"

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"Milo's boyfriend, or under the name Gregor, our emperor who Miles never even considered acquiring as a boyfriend because that's kind of insane and there's Linyabel."

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"Original me didn't date, and I'm fake dating Bella but we already know who Bella corresponds to... I can't remember offhand if there's been a Grand Duke of Thule named Gregor, but it's sounding like we'd be looking for a girl anyway, right?"

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"Only if the gender reversal is consistent - which is a reasonable guess, but only that."

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"Why are you fake dating Bella?" wonders Stalas.

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"I'm gay, she's bisexual but pretends to be gay to cut down on annoying boys, and then I got hit by a car and she claimed to be my girlfriend to cut school to visit me in the hospital. And she convinced Ghyslaine to fix me, which is why I don't look very hit by a car. The ruse continues to be useful versus annoying boys."

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"What an interesting variety we come in. I'm bisexual and the other Isabella is straight. No information on the toddler, of course."

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"And Solvei doesn't seem to break pattern for Mileses," says Miles. "But in our case it looks like there are straightforward causal factors governing the outcome."

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"The outcome being...?"

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"We seem to be originally bisexual, but find our attractions suppressed to approximately the degree that they are frowned on in our culture of origin," says Miles.

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"I don't know what Thule's like, but worldwide and in the country we live in there is some frowning. Although when I showed up and told the school gossip her reaction was 'wow, two entire lesbians', so there's obviously some enclaves of liberal tolerance."

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"...And now I think I'm done analyzing why my bisexuality gets to shine unencumbered by social censure," says Solvei. "New topic."

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Ivan hands Solvei off to Jann. More hugs.

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Hugs!

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And now she has been hugged by all the Ivans. "There, that should be a supply for a while. If you require armed escorts to neighboring countries, rescue from dragons, or field bone-setting services, I imagine Milo'll loan me out."

"Different kind of dragon from me," clarifies Aurin, "that is not a thing on Elcenia."
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"My bones are currently fine, seeing as they actually belong to Sis," says Solvei. "But thanks."

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"No problem."

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What a good bunch of strange boy Ivanas these are.

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Meanwhile, Bella is explaining furball's offer to her alt. "...and inconveniently, anything I come up with I can't check whether I can power the idea, while I'm here, apparently, so help me figure out what's redundant with stuff you can give me and a really wide range of other useful stuff?"

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"Of course."