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The pregnantest of the pregnant Elves visiting Marlatia have children with spirit animals. (This would normally take a while to determine, but newborns can't maintain private thoughts and they are definitely seeing ghostly lemurs/otters/eagles/bats.) Mass immigration attempts ensue. Cam builds Marlatia a small chain of islands to house its guests without having to find a way for lots of Elves to be comfy in existing human cities. He gives Marlatia lots of stuff, and lets his alt and Less Fucked Up Version of Maitimo handle explaining everything to their other in-world neighbors. He demonstrates the back of the neck thing to Iobel, who is pleased but not so pleased that she decides she wants to keep him when any minute he will be haring off to another dimension and she has so much to do at home.

And when that all seems like it's humming along smoothly, Cam hares off to another dimension.

He goes back to Endorë, because it seems like the most useful data for targeting will come if he controls for starting location. Anybody coming along?

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...well, seems possible there's one of them present anyway, right?

A Feanáro can be spared to go along anyway.

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And they're off to Literally Random Location! And now they have air and a ship.

"I'm going to check for alts first," Cam says, "suspect they'll be better tour guides than an uninformed corpus grab, sound like a plan?"

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He's smiling delightedly. "Yes."

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Conjure conjure conjure conjure -

"We both have alts here! ...Mine does not seem to have a stable address, yours will be easier to find."

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"Does not seem to have a stable address?"

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"He or she has produced recent writing in forty alphabets in as many sections of the universe! I do not know what's up with that."

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He looks desperately envious. 


"Nice."

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"Well, if we're lucky yours is acquainted and can get us in touch so we can find out how mine is doing that. You're thataway." Cam lines up a course for thataway.

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"Much more crowded universe, I take it," he says when they're off.

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Conjure conjure - "Ohhhh yeah. This place is up to its ears in sapience."

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"Good. I was going to be really disappointed if it was a-handful-of-humanoids-per-universe or something. Can I have my complete works?"

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"Cross your fingers that they won't rupture the ship, but -" Yeah, here they are.

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"...they're in Quenya."

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"What, really?"

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"Yup. This is all notes on -" he scrolls through it -

 

 

"okay, different magic system - he can stop time in an arbitrary radius, cool!

 

 

...less cool than it sounds, it's not like he can move around freely in the stopped area, everything's just - stopped -

 

- the kids are all all right -

 

 

 

 

 

 

...Melkor had an alt in their universe, too."

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"- in their universe? Do they have interdimensional transit too? Also, past tense?"

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"Not sure about the interdimensional transit, very sure about the past tense."

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"We will have to find how that came about."

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"And borrow it," he says fervently. "Want to read through it as well, the content's not particularly private..."

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"Sure, if you say so." Peek.

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Mostly experimental notes. Logistics. Linguistics papers. Diagrams and so forth. 

 

The diagrams that aren't obviously related to the local magic system are for low-tech stuff. Swords. Improved bookbinding. A very rough prototype of a printing press.

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"He's into swords!" says Cam. "How the fuck do you kill a Vala with swords?"

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"Really excellent question! There's a speech, calling for war with Melkor, similar to one I gave, and there's a line in it - 'travel light, but take with you your swords!' - if that's not a metaphor -

 

- maybe 'swords' are a very sophisticated magical weapon that happens to be a cognate with, like, pointy metal sticks."

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Cam displays a diagram of a literal sword.

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"...maybe their Melkor was different."

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"Plausible."

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"I am going to be very disappointed if the answer to 'how'd you take down your Vala' is 'we rushed him with sharp pointy sticks'."

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"Well, if it works."

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"Yeah, but it doesn't get me anywhere on ours. 

 

...summon a scale model of the ships my alt is referencing in all this writing about transit from Valinor to Endore?"

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"It's a very pretty sailboat?"

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Feanáro looks at it and makes a strangled noise.

 

"Well, on the bright side, we'll have a nice tech boost for them?"

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"We will give your alt presents and accept same from mine," nods Cam.

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"Yes, yours hops galaxies. I wonder how she does that, I put a lot of thought into lightleapers and there's really no way without the five day loss of time, unless we eventually figure out non-random universe hopping and then do it by changing dimensions and back. Maybe they've got that."

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"Or something. We don't know it's a she, sample size of two I split fifty-fifty."

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"This note references a history of the war between the Noldor and Melkor, with which I apparently had some complaints about accuracy - can you conjure it -"

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Sure thing here it is.

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Then he'll spend a few hours quietly reading. 

 

"Okay. Uh, did you glance through it too?"

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"I decided to check if my alt wrote anything in Quenya, actually. She has - it is a she - but it doesn't cohere very informatively, though it does suggest they may have met."

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"The war started with swords, didn't stay there. My alt invented some kind of magic that let them pull from neighboring dimensions' physics textbooks, got them up to nuclear weaponry sixteen years after they invented electricity, and then when that failed to kill him time-stopped a huge chunk of Endore to protect the civilian population while someone else invented interdimensional transit, grabbed the biggest guns the neighboring dimension had to offer, and made sure that no two particles of Melkor shared a cubic parsec."

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"Electricity to nukes in sixteen years, Christ."

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"My alt's notes are great. What's impressive is that they pulled together the industrial base for it, there were barely a hundred thousand of them and they were also, like, growing their own food with mule-drawn plows and so forth." He shakes his head. "And someone invented interdimensional travel in a couple of decades. It took me that long with eight copies to work with and I had far more resources."

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"This person is also of interest," Cam nods.

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"She killed Melkor. Maybe she'll want to do it again. 

 

 

She also apparently killed Thauron in single combat. I'm trying to imagine in what kind of context that makes any sense at all but apparently it is a thing that happened."

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"More of him too oh joy. On what axis are you thinking that fails to make sense?"

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"Single combat implies, you know, they showed up at the same place and used local-effect magic powers and handheld weapons, which I get the impression is in actual fact what they did, which - I guess I don't know enough about the magic system, but I wouldn't have guessed you could kill a Maia that way, and the Enemy was also fucking around with swords? Why?" 

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"I mean, ours was fucking around with rockets and being comparatively restrained with the prion diseases? Maybe 'not going all out' is a - thing?"

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"I would not have expected it to be a principle he held strongly enough to die for it. Good for him, though."

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"Yeah I'm confused. We can ask."

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"I have so many questions," he agrees eagerly. "Want to pull things up on anyone else in the galaxy, if the translation tech's gotten anywhere? Oh, and we should check if this is a world where summoning works -"

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Here is a circle for Fëanáro to try. "There are so many languages here and I don't know which ones will be useful. A lot of my alt's notes in Quenya make it look like she was practicing it, so it's not her native language, but she's been writing in a bunch of alphabets for what seems to have been a very long time."

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Fëanáro tries it. An angel conspicuously fails to appear. "Oh, my alt invented eidetic memory necklaces. That can't explain your alt's language proficiency, but it'll at least make learning new ones trivial for you."

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"It's hard to get more trivial than inviting people to Endorë and asking them to draw on the floor," Cam points out. "But I do want one of those."

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"Think it's magic, but you can try conjuring it in case I'm wrong."

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"Yep, magic."

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"Ah, well. I wonder if it's learnable or local. Also, whereas our Noldor stuck together very effectively through the war and then split afterwards, these Noldor nearly had a civil war and spent a few decades not speaking to each other and are now, if I'm reading the epilogue correctly, a happily reunited kingdom."

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"I wonder what governs which things are the same or parallel and which are just different like that."

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 "Once we have enough data points we can start theorizing."

And they spend a few days reading and - in Fëanáro's case, since he can't pick up the languages by having circles drawn - learning a few of them chosen nearly at random.

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And they find the correct planet and shuttle down. They speak Quenya, it'll be fine!

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There's a spaceship landing! That's odd! They don't get a lot of unannounced visitors and they've yet to really figure out economically efficient tourism that they can use to fund the end-scarcity-and-give-the-galaxy-freedom-of-movement long term project. 

Maitimo's on Jotunheim helping Loki end an ancient war or conquer a kingdom or whatever they're doing. So he watches from a few miles off while the ship lands and then pops over to greet the people disembarking.

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And out pops a guy with wings and a tail. "Hi!" he says in what, if Findekáno checks, is actually Quenya - accented - and not Allspeak rendering something else as such. "We are the most interesting visitors you have had all forever probably, bet you arbitrary material objects."

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"I bet you a Silmaril that you are only the second most interesting visitor I have had in all forever," he says. He does check. Actually Quenya. Huh. Still a safe bet, Loki once dropped on his head.

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"Who're we competing with?" Cam says, getting out of the way so Fëanáro can emerge.

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"Loki," he says. And then blinks at Fëanáro, and adds, "...what are you doing here?"

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"We haven't met," he says. "I am a version of the person known to you from an alternate dimension."

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"Well, you're pulling a solid second in the most interesting people I've met department," he says. "Welcome to Vanda Nosseo, headquarters of Project End Material Scarcity and Give The Whole Galaxy Freedom of Movement, I hope in your dimension we're doing something comparably interesting."

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"Ooh, ending material scarcity, good stuff, my go-to solution for that won't scale here but I approve in principle!" Wag wag. "I'm not terribly up to date on what our yous have been up to, sorry, although I can drop a letter if you're urgently curious."

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"...our yous? There are several?"

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"They forked. I forget how many of you there are. Four? Something like that. One of 'em came along the last time I went scouting for strange universes but this time they stayed home."

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"...okay. Want me to pop you to some guest rooms in the palace and we can compare notes? Forking is not a thing that exists here and if you've done a lot of scouting for strange universes than you're ahead of us, we've stuck to the two."

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"Universes we're aware of are the one I was born in, four associated worlds, the one he's from, and the one we found last time we went universe-hunting. This is universe-hunting result the second. I would be delighted to compare notes."

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And now they're in a guest room in the palace, exceptionally pretty. "We grew up in Arda, eventually left Valinor to go kill a Vala - we didn't have any idea how to do that but I think - " he nods at Fëanáro - "his plan was to drag out the fighting for three hundred years while he invented his way up to something that'd do it - only then he had a fit of paranoia about my father usurping him and lit the boats we'd been using to cross the ocean on fire, all familiar so far?"

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"Ooh, teleportation," Cam says. "And, uh, no, we were very surprised to learn that there were boats involved. With sails. That presumably, like, float. Also nothing was on fire."

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"At the time we did not have the teleportation. I can now pick up like a million people at will and singlehandedly and put them in another dimension, it's lovely, I'll teach you this afternoon but it takes five hours to learn and is excruciatingly boring.

 

...no ships? Nothing on fire? Want to give your version?"

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"There were ships. Space ships. Faster than light ones! They're cool! I dropped in after some of the politics had already politicked though, maybe I'm not the best source of backstory."

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"We also wanted to leave Valinor to go fight a Vala," Fëanáro says, "though I was pretty sure I didn't need three hundred years to jump high enough on the tech tree to do it - I might have been underestimating him - but Valinor and Endore are twenty-five lightyears apart and it would have been hard for ships to be involved. Yours were on the same planet?"

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"Not even a planet. It was flat. The Valar held it that way with magic, they hadn't thought of doing a round one. This offended Loki's sensibilities and it's round now. Valinor and Endore were separate continents, though, and you had invented writing fairly recently and we were a long ways from spaceships."

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"This Loki person sounds really interesting."

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"There's a reason I bet you a Silmaril you weren't the most interesting person I'd met. And I don't know if I'm Fëanáro's kin enough to be offering the damned things - did you also swear a really stupid oath -"

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"I also swore an oath."

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"Anyhow, after our Fëanáro'd burned the boats and stranded us all in terrible conditions with few supplies in the freezing arctic, we decided to walk across it. It was ugly. About twelve thousand people died. And when we were nearing the edge of our march, a woman appears out of nowhere in the snow, and we establish in short order that she is from a different dimension, did not mean to be there, has healing powers which could rapidly save a lot of our lives, had illusion and invisibility powers with a range of 'as she pleased', and could touch people and turn them into birds."

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"That is a sorta weird power set."

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"Her powers let her do anything she wants! Those happened to be the first spells she'd used them to design, because the design process takes decades and she was from a planet where women face serious social sanction for using magic, and she was a princess and would have lost her chance at the throne, and had in fact just been banished for using her healing spells to save her father's life."

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"...wow, okay. Maybe we are not the most interesting visitors you have had in all forever. Depends on how much interestingness bonus you assign to the alts thing. I have one here too but his was easier to triangulate so we're here first."

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"The alts thing is pretty exciting. I want to meet all, ah, four of me, it'd be nice to be able to get more done." He's surprised Maitimo hasn't convinced his alternate self to make more than four but he's not going to accidentally out the other Maitimo to his father if they didn't meet a Loki and get encouraged to get married. 

"But Loki's more exciting. So, at this point we aren't sure if the other host bona fide wants us dead or just wanted us out of the way, and therefore how they'd react to our arrival alive. We were sort of expecting it to come to a fight, honestly. I tell Loki to go find my cousin Maitimo - you have him? - and see if he could be leveraged to get his family to not try to murder us all. So she turns into a bird and goes off to meet you -" to Fëanáro. "And apparently become fast friends.

 

Maitimo wasn't there. He'd been taken prisoner by the Enemy."

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"Five, there's one of you in the other world we found too," Cam mentions. "They're all humans there, you guys are more closely matched. Congratulations on eventually getting your Enemy dead, by the by."

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"Thank you. ...I'm assuming you also did that?"

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"You finish your story first."

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"Loki meets Fëanáro, goes 'I don't remember much of my science lessons but I think electricity somehow involves magnets,' three days later he has a generator. By then she's swooped around Beleriand meeting people and learning about the situation and has decided the Enemy really fucking needs to be dead, so she asks him if he can do retroactive eidetic memory, so she can remember her science lessons better and teach us the galaxy's best weaponry. He says that's the most ridiculously impossible thing he's ever heard of, give him a decade. 

 

Loki sneaks invisibly into Angband and stages a prison break."

 

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"Probably a more satisfying activity in your version."

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"...why's that?"

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"Ours didn't keep prisoners in a rescuable form so much, he did destructive uploads, spun off copies, had offplanet backups, ran 'em all real fast..."

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"I shall have to tell Maitimo that it could've been worse.

 

It was pretty bad as it stood. He could still do the altered subjective time, and he did hallucinations of being rescued, over and over, until they didn't trust it when it came true."

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"Telling him it could've been worse seems insensitive. Besides, the, however many, six or something, of him are all forked off from an instance that doesn't remember it."

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Why would there be more of Maitimo? He is pretty sure he can't cover one and a half of Maitimo.

"Well, ours remembers it. It took him twenty-five years to believe that it was really over, though he managed to make himself one hell of a wartime asset while in constant psychological torment. 

Loki talks to some orcs, learned that they're all under oaths to Melkor, works with Fëanáro on some clever oath-reinterpretation so they're safe, bargains with Ulmo to get them an island of their own, a free independent orc colony. She learns that Men have started existing, goes over to meet them, and runs into Sauron."

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"Sauron is such a creep."

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"Sauron offers her a deal. Orcs, he says, outnumber Elves several thousand to one, and all orcs everywhere are in constant physical pain - she'd earlier verified that. He offers to make it stop."

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"He wants her help killing the Valar, in the long run, and as a show of good faith he wants her to give him Maitimo back. He'd gotten attached, see."

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"Such a creep."

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"Loki goes to Maitimo and asks him if he'd volunteer."

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Nod.

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He's watching him intently. 

"Maitimo thinks it's a ploy to capture or kill Loki, or possibly merely to make sure Fëanáro's unwilling to work with her. They talk it through for a couple of days, decide they can't verify enough to make the deal, set up an ambush for Sauron at the meeting site instead. Sauron either underestimated her or was trying to take her alive, or he'd have killed her right there. Instead she made it out and he limped back to Angband the Maia equivalent of badly damaged. 

She took over raising the new species of Men from him. We built fortifications and cities. A couple of years passed."

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"Speaking as an ex-human good on her taking an interest."

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"Sauron spends those years personally fucking with her. Sending her pregnant orcs and orcs holding their infant children for her to murder, stuff like that. Kidnapped a personal friend of hers, tortured the friend until there was nothing left to do, and then sent her home with orders to get Loki to kill her..."

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"Okay, 'creep' is apparently an understatement."

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"Yeah, people who've met Maitimo don't tend to joke about it. It's okay. Anyway, Loki gets word that the Enemy's going to shatter her little kingdom of Men, and Maitimo's built himself one hell of a defensive bastion of a city, so she moves her Men in there and then some of the Noldor move in there and then Sauron comes in to assail it.

 

And she murders him. Someone has got to show you the memories. She'd just gotten short-range tactical teleportation and her ice powers worked out and they leave craters in a solid square mile of earth and I think it was the most satisfying moment of any of our lives, up to date. 

And then Fëanáro gets retroactive eidetic memory up and working and they bear down on nukes."

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"That explains electricity to nukes in sixteen years! That seemed really ridiculous!"

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"They had the help of physics textbooks! It was still pretty ridiculous, they worked their people to exhaustion. But they did it. Tested it in the desert and then Loki teleported it over Angband.

 

Didn't work. Well, it destroyed the place, but not the Enemy."

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Nod.

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"So we retrieve the Silmarils, which were weaponizable and usable as radiation shielding, and consolidate population centers so the Silmarils could shield everyone while the Enemy rampaged around destroying most of the world. Except Doriath grabs one Silmaril and refuses to give it back, and Maitimo ends up going in there as their prisoner to try to talk them around to letting us use it.

And we worked. For a decade. Loki and Fëanáro had figured out a ridiculous magic hack so they could think at three or four times normal pace, and they spent all their time in acceleration, barely speaking to anyone else. And when the continent began to crumble to pieces, Loki'd secured permission to take everyone but the Noldor to Valinor where they'd be safe and Maitimo'd secured the third Silmaril and Fëanáro'd worked out how to use all three of them to freeze us all in time so the Enemy couldn't slaughter us and the continent couldn't crumble around us.

And then - well, we spent the next few years in stasis, but in Valinor they begged and pleaded and delayed the Valar's judgment about having mortals stinking up their precious paradise, and Loki finished interdimensional teleportation.

She came here. She found the most powerful weapon this universe had to offer, and she took it up, and she took it back to Arda and smeared Morgoth across the cosmos and then kindly suggested to the other Valar that they reconsider their behavior. Made the planet round. Erased oaths, so all the orcs were free, and got a nice planet for them. Picked out a planet for us, too. 

 

And now she and Maitimo are off ending some kind of intractable centuries-old war. I guess that's how some people heal."

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"I mean, having centuries-old wars around is just tacky."

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"Like flat planets. Just itching for someone to apply phenomenal power and a lack of respect for the way the world is.

 

Now you've got to tell us how you did it."

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"It's not a very nice story."

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"It was not a very fair fight. We got very lucky."

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"So, I'm a demon. Demons are one of three summonable species - doesn't work in this world, checked - we make things, there's also angels who change things and fairies who move things. Random kid in the Noldor host summoned me by accident, doodling on the floor, I figured I'd help as long as I was there, filled out the fleet of lightleaper ships and filled them up with food and stuff. Got the Valar to quarantine the scope of their fucking Doom so it wouldn't apply in other worlds because they hadn't been accounting for that. They also decided to interdict further summoning, so I was it for daeva backup and if anybody killed Random Kid I would've been back home in Hell just like that. So the host went to Endorë and I went off to intergalactic space to make a planet and put Random Kid and some other families there to be out of the way of the action and then met up with everybody at Endorë and made 'em a bunker under the ocean."

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".....I have so many things for you to do if you're amenable, I assure you they have a very good lives-saved to time-spent ratio unless you make things very slowly. But do go on."

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"Planet takes a few weeks if I start with nothing but a design. I will be happy to make some stuff for you but it can't be magic, smarter than a snail, or antimatter. Anyway. There's a war on. It's - a surprisingly primitive war, considering that while Endorë's incarnates don't have spaceflight mastered the incarnates weren't running the Enemy's side of it. Seems very restrained - it's hell on everyone going through it, to be clear, but the actual weapons deployed are guns and stuff, not nukes. I'm really hesitant to start throwing nukes around first because I have no idea what's holding him back. Later transpires that he thinks the Valar will hold off interfering in anything that looks like a fair fight."

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"...or that they figured if it escalates it's an extinction event. All right."

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"Elves and orcs are all natural born cyborgs, which is bizarre, they've got chips in their heads that literally develop in the womb that do telepathy and oaths of varying stupidnesses and all sorts of tempting little upgrades and also mental backups - on the chips themselves, if they survive bio-death, and also by instantaneous relay to Mandos. Those are what the Enemy destructively uploads from, is the chips. He's got a lot of people. Offers parley if me and Maitimo show up to it. We figure out a way to leverage my making stuff into verifying that an oath is actually spoken and not illusioned - I can sort of sort by genre, when I'm being an infosec hazard, and Melian helped test that I could use that to distinguish as long as the oath's spoken into a recorder. So we get a nice snug oath out of him, we show up, Sauron shows up, he's a total creep, he makes us offers.

Wants me to suck Valinor into a black hole."

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"I am not surprised. Same offer - orcs don't suffer -"

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"Evac privileges," says Cam, shaking his head. "Could've had a year to herd everybody onto ships and gotten them somewhere he'd never find them... Didn't take it. Maitimo was offered a cessation of upload torture in exchange for his," incline of head to Fëanáro, "help figuring out how to redirect backups from Mandos, which, I do not say this out of any fondness for Mandos but no."

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"Oh, Eru, that'd be bad."

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"Yeah. So we don't take the deals, we leave, I run around installing fancy suicide thingies in everybody who'll take one so they can melt their chips at will -

- doesn't help when a whole city dies in their sleep of one of the fucking custom bioweapons, that's when he got Maitimo, he was there."

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He flinches.

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"Then the you, there was only the one at the time, figures out resurrection. Demons can't make minds. I can make bodies, live as you please, and they have insect-level cognition. Same limit applied to chips. But on the chips - the data was all there when I made one, it just didn't work for inscrutable magic reasons if I tried to build a body around it - your alt figured out under extremely restrictive demon-safe information handling protocols how to read and write to chips. So if I made a copy of a chip at a time and a blank, the data could come off the one and print nonmagically onto the other - put a body around that - good as new. Had a Maitimo again for various Maitimo-related functions.

"And had several million fewer reasons not to destroy Valinor."

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"Pregnant people. The Maiar."

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"I can actually do really early-term fetuses, but yes, pregnant people, Maiar, animals, the lovely nothing-decays environmental effect.

"So I held out for more than a year of evac. I held out for fucking everything - Morgoth's still alive being passively evil, Sauron's still being a creep, but they are never, ever going to hurt anyone again -

"But I did it.

"And then I spent the better part of a year putting a replica up and resurrecting everybody I could and I said this was not a nice story."

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He buries his head in his hands.

 

 

 

He waits a while. 

 

"I am sorry," he says. "For - everyone involved."

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"Yeah.

"Anyway then Fëanáro invented worldleapers and a small party flung ourselves into a random destination and landed in hard vacuum which is a demon's favorite canvas and we found a planetful of magic humans with an exact copy of your family tree and also a me, who's a girl and a queen and stuff."

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"Okay. So now the hypothesis is that certain people repeat across the universes? There's an instance of you who is my alt's grandmother? Or are we not royalty there?"

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"We're not blood related in any universes discovered extant," Cam says. "You're still royalty there, cute little country full of canals called Marlatia, place has got talking animals. The me, whose name is Iobel, is in a marriage of political convenience with the Marlatian Maitimo and they are monarching it up."

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He shakes his head. "Probably quite competently. Alright. I am having our representatives on every planet where we've got one draw up a list of distribution sites and items and expected lives saved, and they'll have it for me by tomorrow and then I can teleport you over to as many of those as you don't mind doing and we can save a hundred million people before breakfast and it'll be lovely. While those are being compiled, what else can I offer you? Local magic? Local geopolitics? Audience with Loki Godslayer?"

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"Those things all sound very interesting. Especially the hundred million before breakfast. These things don't actually work out by math and if they did I'd be in the black for escapades before I turned twenty but it'd still make me feel better."

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"You sort of look like you could use a hug but imagining how I'd feel about discovering a means of resurrection and then having that be the impetus for a genocide on the orders of the Enemy, it is possible I am the wrong person to offer it. A hundred million before breakfast I can do."

 

He starts shuffling in his drawers for magic items. "Eidetic memory necklace?"

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"Yes please! Do these do working memory or just long-term? If it does working the Marlatians will do six impossible things before breakfast and then gripe about their magic system until midnight."

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"Think they're long term, think Fëanáro could have one for working memory in a few months if that's something that'd be of tremendous value to the Marlatians." He hands it to him. "And something to eat? I have the menus of some of the galaxy's most desirable high-end vacation destinations, can you steal their food?"

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"Yes I can! Menu me."

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He kept everything acquired on their honeymoon. He hands Cam some menus. "I've also got invisible goggles that give Elven vision, if you've ever been sad about not being able to see heat and ultraviolet and things happening fifty miles away."

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"I would also like these." Wag wag. Delicious menu items.

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Goggles! Fëanáro presumably doesn't need them. Fëanáro has been talking with himself over osanwe the whole time; Findekáno still feels no impulse to be more than vaguely polite to alternate universe versions of his father-in-law.

 

The food is delicious. 

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"This is lovely. I will have to make sure the other demons know about it, they will be delighted."

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"Loki and Maitimo became close friends during the war and I think it bothered her tremendously that he was not properly rescued yet. So she paid for very expensive therapists and then a very lovely honeymoon. I would not otherwise have been able to justify spending this much at galactic-class restaurants."

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"- ah, congratulations."

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"Thank you," he says cheerfully. Fëanáro does not react but might not have been paying attention. "It'll set us back on becoming emperors of this sector of the galaxy by a few years - Arda's yet to catch up with the times - but it was worth it."

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"Yeah, similar social norm in my version, it caught me very much by surprise - and I offended the you very badly in the process of finding out, too - but now sometimes when I feel like having a despairing laugh over something trivial I read horrified censors' arguments about the contents of the Library of Hell. Although nothing about homosexuality is quite as funny as how scandalized they get over shampoo commercials."

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He laughs. "I can imagine any version of Valinor having a bumpy ride making contact with the galaxy. Or Hell, for the same reasons. We'd seen too much of war to be very shockable - I actually don't think it is possible to shock Maitimo anymore - but everyone who'd ridden out the war in Valinor found it a change of pace." He shrugs. "It's good for them. If Eru actually wanted all Elves to be straight he could have, you know, done that."

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"Did your Eru ever show up and do... anything?"

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"Yeah, he scolded the Valar about making the world flat and making Dwarves and moving the Elves into Valinor and doing such a slapdash job of the stars. He didn't do anything about the war, of course, that'd have been useful. 

 

Loki accidentally started an orc cult and ended up having to explain to them that the disproof of an omniscient benevolent deity is two words long: 'look around'."

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Cam laughs, a little. "Are your Dwarves not awesome? The ones I met were pretty neat. After they stopped shooting at me."

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"They're fantastic! And Aule, the Vala who made them, made them a fantastic afterlife, too, we were all tremendously relieved. Maitimo spent several years in Tumunzahar recovering and convincing them to fund his cities and he has a lot of Dwarf friends. Can't restrain themselves from casual comment about how poorly designed Elves are, but it's not as if I disagree, there..."

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"Well, the eyesight is really nothing to sneeze at," Cam says, blinking through his invisible goggles.

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"True! We've been selling those for a fortune on the galactic market in order to pay the salaries of the people we need to sort low-tech planets - disease and agricultural yields, that's usually most of it, but it's a different problem everywhere..."

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"Yeah, I noticed almost none of my medical training applied to Elves, and this world seems really crowded by comparison, it's probably not even all humanoids."

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"It is not. Loki's a frost giant - those are humanoid, but just barely, twelve feet tall and blue and only exist in terrifyingly cold temperatures. At first all our nice healing spells were humanoid only." 

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"Wow, I had only a very vague mental image of this person but it was not a twelve foot tall mental image."

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"She usually looks more humanoid. She only goes blue when she's fighting fire things and she was raised Asgardian and enspelled to look conventional for that."

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"I will resume imagining she is not twelve feet tall, then! When do I get my audience?"

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"Want to head over now?"

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"Oh, I didn't realize she was interruptible."

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"She's with Maitimo and I have special Maitimo-interrupting privileges. And I expect they'll both be very excited to meet you and in a good mood about saving a hundred million people tomorrow morning."

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"Awesome. Fëanáro, you okay to be stranded here?"

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"I'm picking up the local magic," he says, "and then I won't be. Good skill."

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"Thanks! All right, all set to go interrupt."

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They're in a meeting room on Jotunheim. It's very very cold. Both of the other people in the room look up at them. 

"This is Cam," Findekáno says. "He is visiting from another dimension which had its own Melkor who is still around to be murdered if anyone's so inclined, though he did swear an oath not to hurt any more people. In exchange for Valinor being fed to a black hole. Cam, these are Loki and Maitimo."

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"- ah," says Cam, snapping his fingers and pointing at Loki, "ah-hah -"

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"...yes?"

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Cam pulls up a photo on his computer. "And this is Queen Iobel of Marlatia! Who is an alt of me!"

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"Oh," Findekáno says. "Then I guess you are the most interesting person I've ever met after all, on a technicality. Do I owe you a Silmaril?"

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"That won't be necessary."

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"When you say 'an alt of you' -"

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"I mean Iobel's Maitimo took like, what, fiiiive minutes of conversation to determine that apparently physical resemblance is not the end-all be-all of Being An Alternate Universe Version Of Somebody and then my and Iobel's parents matched and three questions etcetera etcetera."

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This Maitimo is watching Cam a little warily. Findekáno comes over and sits next to him and starts explaining the rest over osanwe.

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"- the parents match?"

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"Mine and Iobel's do but if yours are twelve feet tall and blue..."

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"Depends on whether you mean birth parents or adoptive." Illusions.

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"No match, but if if the three questions and your face are hits and the exciting story of your adventure on your Arda is true I am inclined to round that to a minor matter of 'well, the families can't always match or it would imply especially extra implausible things about genealogy'."

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"You're different versions of the same person," Maitimo says softly.

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"Thank you for your scarily good at people confirmation," Cam says. "So when I showed up I looked for you with my scary information security hazard powers - would've averted my eyes if I ran into clearly personal notes but I did not, at least not legible - you've been bopping around a lot writing in a ridiculous number of alphabets so me and the Fëanáro I brought with me found his alt first, he's more staying put."

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"My personal notes are ciphered. I can get you an Allspeak installation if you too would like to write in ridiculous numbers of alphabets."

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"I already can, just different ones," Cam says, swishing his tail.

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Findekáno is almost done filling him on everything. He clutches him and watches Cam. "Welcome to the universe," he says after a moment. "We scraped through with one of you but would have been delighted to have two. And what's this I hear about a Thauron who still requires murdering?"

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"Loki, uh, has better aim than me."

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"Do tell."

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"I just told your Findekáno, I hate this story..."

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Loki glances at Findekáno.

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"Their Endore and Valinor were separate planets. Cam has a way of verifying and remotely requesting and hearing oaths from the Enemy. When the Enemy offered him a deal, he took it. Deal was that the war ends and the Enemy never hurts anyone again, and Cam feeds Valinor into a black hole with everyone living on it. Which he did. Brought back the ones he could, afterwards."

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"- well, I can probably fix that."

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"I get along best with the Tesseract but I can handle the time stone for short periods."

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"Oh, I should have thought of that. Good idea."

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"Although I've got mixed feelings about the Valar. Maybe I should ask our set to plead their alts' cases, see if they have anything to say. If I only bring back, say, Aulë, he might just fetch the rest of them back too..."

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"None of their failings strike me as worthy of death but if they were going to start throwing their weight around again that'd be concerning. The Maiar will all want the Valar back. The population of Valinor will overwhelmingly want the Valar back. The population of our Endore'd vote them back too, unless we give orcs votes..."

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"Well, I have excellent aim and didn't kill any of ours but inflicting them on the world actively seems... nondefault. Especially Mandos."

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"I have not lost any sleep over Mandos in particular."

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"They have resurrection all set without him, Cam can do it because of an eccentricity of the local biology. He can't do us. Can you send them somewhere there are no sapients for them to bother?"

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"Very very far away or uninhabited universe?"

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"This Mandos collects personality backups via instantaneous information transmission, far away won't cut it."

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Loki brushes her thumb over the Tesseract; she crackles. "- uninhabited no can do, not inhabited by people on that backup system can."

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"Let's do that, then. They can make as many pretty planets as they like - with no one to hurt when they're careless or evil -"

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"Still inclined to go mention this to our Aulë first in case he'd like to warn me that actually Valar can dimension-hop or something."

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"Yes, definitely check that."

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"Will do. Is this urgent, Cam?"

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Headshake. "They're, uh, not going anywhere and nobody's waiting on them or anything. The surviving Maiar would be spared some grief but it'd be a stretch to call it urgent, we can explain more stuff to each other first."

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"We could also go somewhere warmer for that," he offers, because Findekáno crossed the Helcaraxe and hates the cold.

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"Of course - sorry, Findekáno -" And here they are on the Noldor planet, empty conference room.

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Findekáno shakes his head. "Not a problem. Alright. I gave Cam the summary of our war and he gave me the summary of his; there's another dimension with all of us running around - Maitimo's King, Iobel is his Queen - and no Enemy in sight there, that we know of. Cam's arbitrary matter capabilities are going to be ridiculously valuable but I have enough people on that and they'll have everything compiled for me in the morning. Space Elves have better tech than us but no magic, the Fëanáros are comparing notes and will doubtless have people at work on everything valuable shortly."

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"Multiple Fëanors, what fun!"

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"And I only brought one! They fork."

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"So Iobel and her Maitimo..."

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"He had to get married to a woman to be King and he is an excellent judge of character, there was drama, there is no longer drama, they are friends." She gets him excellent birthday presents if Cam does say so himself.

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Maitimo laughs. "That explains a great deal."

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"You and yours seem to match much more rigidly than we do, we're two genders and three species for three people and have a nonmatching parent set and whatnot," snorts Cam, "but yes, it does. Iobel calls her world Hex and it's got flexible but slow and sharply use-limited magic. Plus talking animals; Iobel has a rude cat, Mitros has a magpie, etcetera."

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"Perhaps we'll drop by and go meet them. Unless I am inconveniently going to out all of my alts by being married - I gather that we're not, in your world -"

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"Ah," says Cam, "no, not in mine. There was drama, there is no longer exactly drama, they are... not so much friends? They're cordial? Uh, anyway, Mitros is hush-hush but nobody in Marlatia can tell if you're married by gazing into your eyes or anything so it would only come up if you told people and they speculated of their own accord that you're uniform in this respect."

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"That's good, then, we can visit. Findekáno I do not like us being cordial, will you go bail me out of whatever irretrievable stupidity -"

 

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"Yes, of course. That's even less urgent than the Valinor rescue, though."

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"I know." He leans into him. He does not quite relax when he does this but something about his affect changes. 

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He leans back into him. "Could have been my irretrievable stupidity."

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"It wouldn't have been. If you were irretrievably stupid I wouldn't be dramatic, but if I were irretrievably stupid and there was a war on so you still had to take orders from me then you'd be dramatic so I didn't try fixing it. It is a failure mode I am conscious of. But they were Doomed and if the Doom was like ours it could have forced it, made it worse, caused them to miss it..."

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"Mitros already gave him a talking to, I'm not sure how much progress there is to be made via altly intervention."

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"I'm sure Mitros is lovely but they did not have the war," he says, "they're not going to understand. Is anything on Space Arda going to shoot at me if I just head over and drag one of each over here?"

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"...probably not? Is that what we're calling it, Space Arda, we could call yours Ex-Flat Arda."

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"I need a location to go kidnap my alts from and point it out to them and then drop them off on a nice vacation planet without a teleport back."

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"...less sure I want to enable this now."

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"If after thirty seconds they don't agree with me I'll take them home instead, promise."

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"...okay, what kind of location description do you need?"

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"Does osanwë not work on you?"

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"...I'm the wrong kind of cyborg?"

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"...okay, Flat Arda Elves aren't cyborgs, it's just telepathy-telepathy, I'm sure these ones have been politely not reading you but you will need to get in the habit of dividing private and communicative thoughts. Pick a metaphor, I went with my cipher but you may not have picked one up."

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"Oh. Uh." Chiplocked and not-chiplocked? That will probably do. "...how do I know if it's working?"

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"Can't hear you, can tell you're there. The standard fix for that is to put your existence on the private side. Our alts' telepathy only works on each other?"

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"Yeah. I could have tried installing one of their chips but as tempting as some of the things they can load up are... no. I guess you guys work more like Maiar, Space Maiar aren't chipped." He fixes the location of his existence.

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"All set. I was astonished by how quickly Loki picked it up when I first explained it to her; maybe that's a 'you' thing. Now if you'd like you can send me a location and I can go acquire some space Elves to convince in thirty seconds that they should stop making my Maitimo sad."

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"They're probably not going to be in the same place, they're usually on opposite sides of the planet."

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He sighs. "Then you can send me two locations."

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"Can you wait five minutes for me to send a letter back via demonic courier and let them know to expect teleporting visitors, because I am only mostly sure you would not be shot at."

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"By all means. It's not urgent, I just sincerely expect it'll be quick and want it out of the way."

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So Cam writes Attn: Noldor grander-higher-muckety-mucks: new world has interdimensional teleportation, expect nosy alts as soon as you confirm receipt and titles it for the demon who monitors correspondence. "I have to check for replies manually, poke me if I neglect that."

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"Thank you."

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"You're welcome."

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"So every world you've jumped to so far has had all of the same people in it?"

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"Not exactly. My and Iobel's grandparents do not match. And except for Hex, mes and your family do not seem to come native to the same universe - unless there are native, whatever we call ourselveses, in the Ardas that we've just failed to notice."

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"It seems like they might have been hard to miss, but it's worth checking -" Brush of tesseract. "Nope, no uses in Flat or Space Arda."

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"I think we might be less separable from our family."

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"Possibly. I want a name for uses, it will be inconvenient to just keep referring to myself in the plural like that. But there's no name similarity between 'Loki' and 'Cam' and 'Iobel'."

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"Cam's a nickname for Campbell, me and Iobel have 'bel' overlapping in there."

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"- oh, that explains it, it's my birth name that matches. Beldri."

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"....that's even more bizarre. What would prompt different sets of parents to settle on different names that happen to share a syllable?"

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"I could not begin to tell you and I am eager to find out."

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"Any other overlap? Both my and Iobel's surnames translate as Swan and her middle name's Maryah and mine's Mark."

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"Nope, Jötunheim doesn't do middle names nor surnames proper, I was Beldri Laufeysdottir until Odin scooped me up and made off with me."

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"And shared history? Past events? Aside from running into us at some point?"

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So Loki and Cam run through abridged versions of their life story, with Cam providing Iobel's part, and there's very little parallel except features like the clumsiness and the notebooking and the interest in magic - she taps him with her grace spell in case it's better than Iobel's. "I am again less like the two of them than they are like each other. Huh."

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"There's the mannerisms. The way of presenting yourself, the style of speaking..."

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"Yes, but Iobel has that too, I presume, we form a rather inequilateral triangle."

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"Maybe it was the getting kidnapped at birth."

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"But I don't seem to have been kidnapped from copies of their parents, Laufey and Fárbauti seem to be some unrelated variety of person."

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"Fair enough. I suppose we can go get more data - does the Tesseract let you find all your alts, actually -"

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"It is in a grouchy mood for reasons it declines to explain and will not help me with that unless I specify what world I want to look for them in. It gets less animate when it is having a bad day and I can't look for novel worlds without it actively assisting."

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"Huh. Okay. Have our space alts been informed of our existence?"

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"Let's see -" Letters for Cam?

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They're pleased to hear that they have alts and that the alts have a teleport; can it be shared?

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"You are clear to teleport in, people are gonna want copies of the teleport spell."

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"Like I said, it's really boring to learn," he says, and pops out.

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"What's so boring about it, anyway?"

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"All of my spells are many books' worth of symbols that are not inherently meaningful to anyone but me. You can use them if you memorize the entire sequence of symbols and the underlying concepts, but you do have to sit around reading or being osanwëd the whole damn thing and without, again, unique-to-me advantages, you have to have the eidetic memory necklace for it."

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Pop. With a space Maitimo and a space Findekáno. "Not this again," says the latter the minute he sees Loki.

 

"I told Cam thirty seconds," Findekáno says. "He said you had a Doom."

"...yes," space Maitimo says. 

"Wording."

"The wrath of the Valar lies on the house of Fëanáro to the farthest reaches of the universe. To evil ends will turn all things that they begin well, and by treasons of kin unto kin, and the fear of such treasons-"

"So, same wording. Cam also said he got confirmation your Doom was a literal curse the terms of which the Valar could alter, not just a prophecy or something."

"...yes."

"So, absent any other information, all I've got is that you were happy for a thousand years and then within two months of being literally cursed to have anything good you'd begun together driven apart by paranoia and betrayal -"

 

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"...I can do another Aethering, does this call for another Aethering."

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"I was sort of hoping feeding their Valar into a black hole would have done it and that creepy stuff would not be required to eat your arm again, but feeding their Valar into a black hole wouldn't have undone damage done in the meantime..."

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"Aether's not gonna fix that," she sighs.

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"Yeah, and it shouldn't need to. When not under any curses we are responsible adults with communication skills that can survive, well, a hell of a lot.

I think you two owe it to yourselves to figure out where you'd be without the Doom. Okay? I'll pick you up in a month."

Pop.

He comes back alone and sits down next to Maitimo. Maitimo leans in towards him and makes a pleased sound. 

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"...I didn't see anything there that looked like unambiguous agreement from them but I guess if they want me to bail them out they can write me a note."

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"They seem a bit slow on the uptake," he says solemnly, "and I was at twenty-nine seconds. Sorry. Back to more important topics?"

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"Sure. So how exactly are you planning on solving all my problems, Loki?"

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"This blue cubical object on my stick is the Tesseract, which contains the space stone, a sapient artifact of immense power which for most purposes may be thought of as an accessory you should not touch. It taught me my sorcerous alphabet when I was a child, it shoved me to Flat Arda when it thought I was being boring and it had convenient cover for it, and now I haul it around and exploit its arbitrary control over the locations of things. Depending on whether the Maiar in the black hole are dead or just inconveniently located, I will either use the Tesseract directly to conveniently locate them, or the time stone, which I don't carry around because it probably belongs to somebody and also it doesn't like me as much and it's kind of uncomfortable to use but which thanks to the Tesseract I can reach out and grab at whim from anywhere, to jump them from before they died into somewhere conveniently located in the present."

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"This is how Loki fixed our Arda once nukes couldn't do it."

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"Saying I have good aim is sort of an understatement now I have the Tesseract."

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"...nice. You're going to interview your Valar about whether to include them?"

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"Yeah, I'll see if Aulë will have a word with me, I would sort of like to be convinced but I am currently in a state of requiring it. Aulë is the Vala I have interacted with who seems least personally obnoxious. Ulmo was technically more helpful during the war but... personally obnoxious."

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"Do you want me to ask my mother if he'll have a word?"

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"If you think it'd be better coming from her, although he was downright friendly for a Vala when I was mopping things up..."

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"I wouldn't expect any of them to react well to being asked if they're worth leaving dead but I suppose it's possible no amount of formality in advance'd make it go particularly better."

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"Yeah, that's my thinking. Although I was planning to phrase it as, like, worrying that the Space ones suddenly trying to resume their jobs after what will seem like little time to them but is a substantial discontinuity for incarnates will result in disharmony, how can they be encouraged to sit back and not try to do anything a little more emphatically than they usually don't do anything. Critique my diplomacy."

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"And you'd do it at once but it seems wiser to wait until our Valar have pardoned Cam, so the other ones don't reawaken and immediately, amidst their grief, need to decide how to retaliate -"

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"And the peoples of Arda are using summoning! Peacefully and productively! And they should not go back to forbidding that!"

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"All of these things. The Valar have no idea how much bullshit manipulation they incentivize, do they."

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"I sincerely think they don't understand incentives. Why does summoning work in Arda if it doesn't work here?"

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"No idea. It seems like it probably usually didn't, and I was a fluke of some kind - that can't have been the first kid to produce something that would have worked doodling on the floor ever - and then the Valar said it wouldn't work anymore and it didn't, and then they got holed and it works just fine. It doesn't work in Hex either."

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"And conjuring all of the summoning circles not from your home dimension and space Arda gets you..."

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"I can't filter for practical validity. I will if I try to make that get kids' drawings that should have worked and didn't."

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"But if it works at all, surely it becomes known and the majority from that world will be professionally done?"

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"Not so surely. I had to make it common knowledge in my original world."

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"Congratulations."

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"Thank you, I'm very proud." Wag.

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Awww. He's so cute. They're going to be so cute together once Loki makes up her mind.

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"It's still not urgent but I and the nicer of the surviving Maiar will feel a lot better when the problem is solved, if there's no reason not to go talk to Aulë right now..."

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"I can do it now," she says. "I'll do a colocation thing, I'll be here too to ask clarifying questions or whatever as necessary."

And she touches the Tesseract and she's slightly wherever Aulë is.

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And he looks up at her and does a convincing imitation of 'troubled'. Loki.

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"Hello. I'd like a word with you, is this a good time?"

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I remember you as impatient. I can speak now.

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"Thank you. I have recently learned of the existence of yet another Arda, different in many respects but parallel in most, complete with its own set of Valar. However, they are presently in a black hole. I can extract them from it, but in the time since the black hole incident their universe has moved on and I fear problems if they try to resume their usual activities as though uninterrupted."

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How much time has passed?

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Loki checks quickly with Cam, then says, "A few years, not long as Ainur count it but more than long enough for incarnates to learn to do without them." At further word from Cam - "In particular, the Dwarves there were not supplied with an afterlife by your alt, but a substitute has been devised - which relies on permitting magic that they'd banned before the black hole."

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A brief time even as Elves count it, and I do not meddle in the daily affairs of the Dwarves, and doubt my counterpart would. If the world has changed in the absence of their laws, that is interesting and potentially concerning. What were the laws, why were they put in place?

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"They forbade the summoning of certain summonable beings from yet another world, the summoning of which enables the summoner to turn into one of those beings upon their death - and then to be summoned themselves and resume their lives if their bereaved wish, with some useful powers. The ban was a reaction to what seems likely to have been the first successful summoning of such a being, who was alarmed to learn of the Doom and asked that it be quarantined to the one universe alone. They assented only on the condition that it be prohibitively difficult for the quarantine to become necessary."

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...the summoner would only have been subject to the Doom if they followed the House of Fëanor into their fated atrocities.

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"He was concerned that there was no opportunity to warn people of other worlds that this would be an unwise course," Loki explains. "At any rate, the Valar prohibited summoning and limited the Doom by blood and not allegiance, but the interdict lost force when the black hole happened."

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...it seems perhaps that it would be wise for some of us to travel to this world, learn which of its laws ceased to function when my counterparts were attacked, and understand the situation better.

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"Is that an ability of the Valar?"

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I would ask Eru both whether this course is wise and how to achieve it.

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"This seems like it will leave the incarnates of the other Arda with even more time to become accustomed to life without Valar, if your advice waits for Eru's reply."

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Eru is outside time; I will have his reply before either world perceives any as having passed.

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Loki becomes slightly less here, but nods.

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And a second later, Eru says that world had 'quite a satisfying story arc' and that its dead ought to remain so, so its living can grieve them.

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"...I was definitely planning to bring the dead Maiar back, it's the Valar I wasn't sure of."

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....he says that works, because it is the Maiar who would be most grieved by our deaths, so the total amount of grief may be increased by restoring them.

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"Is he always like that?"

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Thinks in terms of narratives? Yes. Callous? Not usually. He - I don't think he scripted this situation, and he's electing to treat it with amusement rather than anger, but there is something that ought to provoke anger in it, to him.

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"Should I assume that the Valar of the other Arda would accept this Arda's Eru's judgment on whether they should live even though it is for... this... reason, and that I would not be doing them a particular favor by neglecting his opinion?"

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...no, I'm sure they'd prefer their world have less grief in it. You might notice that grief isn't something we've particularly aspired to in our world. Particularly not grief at the senseless death of innocents.

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...in fact she had not noticed that. At all.

"I also considered putting the other set of Valar in a different universe," she volunteers.

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I doubt that would lessen anyone's grief. 

 

 

Eru explained how some of us can go over and learn the whole situation. He says that if you're breaking the ending anyway that's for the best.

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"How would you go?"

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He cannot take me directly, it is not adjacent, but he can take me to the world full of stories and there there are means to travel again-adjacent to the other Arda.

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Interesting. "The world full of stories?"

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You are of it, I think.

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"I would feel better about this trip if I knew that interdimensonally traveling Valar would not create the very problems I am concerned about with the ones local to the other Arda."

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I thought that problem was that they might restore some prohibitions relaxed in their absence which you disapprove of?

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"That they might generally pick up the habit of interfering with incarnate affairs again," Loki says. "Assuming you don't plan to take up permanent residence or visit regularly it's not an enormous concern as long as you don't revise the laws of nature or resurrect them yourself or anything. Oh, and I haven't killed the Enemy there, yet, I came here first. He might react in some way to foreign Vala arrival."

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We are the rulers of Arda. We would not rule elsewhere. Perhaps you should go destroy Melkor first, if he is beyond rehabilitation; that sounds more urgent.

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"He's actually not urgent, he's sworn to behave himself, but the swearing does not extend to behaving himself with respect to Valar in particular and I do plan to kill him anyway just to be really sure."

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All loss of life grieves me but I think that is for the good. I would like to travel to this other Arda anyway to see why the Dwarves don't have an afterlife, if indeed it's so, and will from there be better positioned to smooth the restoration to life of the Valar. 

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"Okay," she says after a thoughtful delay. "I'll go on ahead to get Melkor out of the way."

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You do all worlds good service, Loki.

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"Thanks."

And she slips back into her own world. "Aulë's going to go visit Space Arda and poke around. Also, Eru is kind of a dork?"

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"...a dork?"

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"I didn't talk to him directly but Aulë asked for his advice on Space Arda and he said it had a good story arc."

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"...so let's go do whatever we were planning before that conversation?"

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"I'm going to go ahead and kill Space Melkor so nothing blows up when Flat Aulë visits and then, yeah, I don't care if it's a good story arc."

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"And Thauron?"

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"I am trying to think if there is some way to let you kill this one since I already bagged one, but the Tesseract is way too grouchy to entertain questions like 'will you kindly not explode somebody else if they pick you up for a one-time thing'."

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"And my alt is apparently trivially replaceable if he picks up a Tesseract and it explodes him but also has - less reason."

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"Yep. I assume you don't want to just let the Thauron live until you find something suitably Maia-killing in the grand multiverse or the Tesseract cheers up?"

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"Dead today. Apparently there are lots of them; I'll get to one eventually."

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"You got it. Cam, you want to come?"

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"Yes please. Since you are not telepathic what kind of location description do you need."

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"Tesseract's not too grouchy to let me shortcut it, verbal descriptions don't really work that well with the spell version. Do you have a house or something?"

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"Space station. Feel free to land in it." Cam bounces images to the Elves.

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Who bounce it over to Loki, just in case that's more helpful, and then go there.

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"Is it going to look like anything?"

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"'Fraid not. Very underwhelming. One dead Morgoth coming right up."

She lays hands on the Tesseract.

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"That was fast."

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"Yup."

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(It occurs to Cam that he was going to check to see if the vacation-stranded Space Elves wanted to be bailed out - he checks -)

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Hello, Cam! Clever! Not that you did it yourself, but you found someone who would do it for you, I guess that's partial credit.

If I die, so does Endore. I set it up long before I made your oath. It might even be contagious enough to catch another dimension, wouldn't that be funny? I almost thought dying would be worth it for the thought of you waking up in Hell like that but I like being alive. Enough to give you fair warning, at least. 

 

- Sauron :)

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"- uh - hang on -" Cam hands the letter to Loki.

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"Oh he thinks he's very clever doesn't he."

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"Contagious enough to catch another dimension?"

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"I think I am curious enough to see if he wants to brag."

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"Going to go say hello?"

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"Yup. Who wants to join me?"

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"I'm in."

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We can stay here and let them do couples bonding.

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You noticed that too?

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The look in his eyes? Yeah. 

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I think, though, I want - I'd want -

 

"We're in."

He takes Findekáno's hand.

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Loki looks ahead first to see where Sauron is, in case it's somewhere people more fragile than Cam should not be.

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He's floating in space, yeah.

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"I'm gonna bring him here, he's in a vacuum."

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"And I just shampooed the carpet, too. Yeah sure."

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Heeeeeere, Sauron Sauron Sauron.

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He blinks around the room. He nods at Cam. He raises an eyebrow at Loki. He positively smiles at Maitimo.

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"You're very lucky Cam happened to check his mail right then," Loki says, "since you like being alive so much, and now you get to be alive long enough to explain."

(A voice buzzes through a song in the air, quick and looping.)

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"I think you're very lucky," he says, "because everyone on Endore would have died and you would have been very sad and Cam would have to go throw a tantrum in Hell and then worldhop aimlessly for centuries. It would have been terribly entertaining, but I do like being alive."

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"Nah," says Loki, "I hit in a higher weight class than that these days, but I certainly would have been briefly annoyed."

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"I have a hard time believing you don't want me dead badly enough to weather the brief inconvenience of everyone on Endore dying. So what's the delay?"

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"Curious how you set it up," she says. "I could brute force getting rid of it but then who would admire your cunning?"

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He raises a disdainful eyebrow and then stops talking. Well, aloud. Maitimo flinches.

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Now Sauron is not in osanwë range! ...He's still in the room, just not in osanwë range. Loki coughs.

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"You'd have to offer me something much, much better than the chance to brag."

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"Is it a graphic description of how I killed the other Sauron with my bare hands, because I love telling that story."

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"Oh, are we trading graphic descriptions of things we've done to alternate-dimension versions of people present? That's my favorite game! By all means go first."

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"Brute force dismantling of thing it is, then." Where is thing?

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Thing is everywhere. There are a couple million of thing in the room; there are trillions of thing on the planet. 

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She puts Sauron back where she found him.

"I think," she says, "I know why the Tesseract is in a bad mood.'

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"Oh?"

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"I think this is a dormant bioweapon or something and I can bundle up all of it that's here or that came with the visitors to my world or the small handful that followed me to Flat Arda when I visited Aulë, and fling it into disused stars," she says, "but the Tesseract can't find Hex."

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"Aw fuck."

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"Can't find it?"

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"Can't find it. Cannot locate anything in it. No wonder it's in a mood. It also - can't find Cam's worlds, any of them -"

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"Could the bioweapon do any damage there?"

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"I don't know how he has it set up to react to his death or if that can reach Hex. Cam, you been to Hell since he would have set this up?"

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"Briefly. To my house, nowhere else, no one would have visited it, I can go back and disable the shielding around the pinhole and no more house."

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"- okay, I'm clearing out here and the other two reachable worlds now -" She does that. Viruses are incinerated. "So the problem is Hex. I'd bet on my healing spell for any given case of Sauronitis but we don't know how far it would have gotten."

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"There've been other people summoned, too, yes?"

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"Yeah. Can't do any damage in the daeva worlds, may have gone from them to Earth."

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"Have I mentioned lately I hate Saurons? I hate Saurons. - Aulë said Eru was talking about adjacency of worlds. Might be the same thing, or related."

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"So we've got a potential problem on Earth and on Hex, if Sauron can even pull it off remotely.

 

Ask him what he wants?"

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"He will want something horrifying and unconscionable compared to merely leaving him alive and very far away and he will phrase it specifically to fuck with us especially you."

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"Yes, obviously. But if it spreads from Earth and Hex to other worlds, and then eventually something does kill him, or he forces our hand -"

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"- Flat Aulë's going on a field trip anyway."

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"...might be able to do it."

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"Brilliant," Loki tells Cam. "Especially if my spell is not range-limited -" She sets down her stick and Tesseract, vanishes, reappears, takes them up again. "Yes, I can get to Cam's house from here -" She debiohazardizes herself again. "So we can hop Aulë to problem areas. And then we kill Sauron."

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"Then we ask Thauron for an oath there's nothing else and that if we don't kill him that one doesn't activate, sounding very panicked, and ask what he wants, and once we have the oath there's nothing else, we kill him."

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"...fine."

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"Just being careful."

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"Later on I would love to hear the story of how you killed the other one with your bare hands it sounds fascinating."

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"Will do. I'll go ask Aulë if he wants a ride." Pause. "...I will register that for some reason I can't teleport to Flat Arda from here, and see if I can do it in two steps, and ask Aulë if he wants a ride."

And away she pops.

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Aulë is happy to travel with Loki to worlds where he is needed to protect against the doings of the Enemy. Bioweapons are far outside my domain. It may take a while.

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"How long a while? There's five affected worlds I can't cover on my own."

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I would have to see it to say, but it could be months. It could also be nearly instantaneous.

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"If it looks like it's taking months perhaps someone whose domain has more to do with biology would like to come have a look?"

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I expect they would delight in the opportunity.

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"Wonderful, thanks." And she hops them to her world and from there to Space Arda.

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He goes very, very still. 

 

I would go to the place where those reembodied from Valinor are, and reassure them, unless the danger you speak of will continue to spread in the time that requires.

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"It may, but not beyond the five worlds it's already necessary to clear. You sound surer than I am that they will find the idea of alternate universe Valar more comforting than confusing."

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You spent rather little time among the people of Valinor, and most of it occupied. They will be reassured. They have suffered an unimaginable grief, and it is one that they know themselves vulnerable to again at any moment....

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"Okay."

She fetches him to Afterlife.

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And he materializes at full force. The static is overwhelming; there's a sound like a roaring river. People turn and stare, wonderingly - not suspiciously, he is being unmistakable - and then he speaks to the whole of Valinor. The means have been found to bring back all those lost to the destruction of Valinor. Many times has the Enemy lashed out in his wrath against the peaceful places we build; each time we build anew. We promised you a land of peace and safety, and we failed you. Forgive us. Grieve it with us. And let it be built anew. 

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...if that's the sort of thing that reassures them, okay.

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Everyone's crying. Hard to tell if that's what reassurance looks like. People kneel. People reach out to him with osanwë and he goes still, answering them all.

 

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You're not promising them that it'll all be exactly like it was before, are you, there's still the matter of summoning and the fact where locally Mandos's function can and should be handled elsewise and so on.

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We did not build Valinor to be a precise copy of what the Enemy had destroyed in Endorë before that. Valinor is irrevocably lost and I cannot set that right for them. I doubt they will care at all if summoning is allowed on Endorë, and from what I gather so far it would be a wrong to my people to disallow it, though we may try to establish the means to ourselves dismiss daeva without killing the summoner. 

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That part sounds like a good ability to have on hand for emergencies. And Mandos? Here, the people he could catch at all can be equally and less intrusively restored to life by demons.

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I have some reservations about the ways demons have used that ability on Endorë - in particular, I will look into ensuring that people cannot have versions of other people made for themselves. I am sure there is a way to prevent that without preventing all resurrections. 

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If there's not?

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That would be concerning; I will discuss it with my brethren. You seem likely to understand what is objectionable about permitting people to try demon after demon until they get one willing to hand them a personal copy of someone they desire, or a version missing the most recent century, or a version who has been through the torments of Angband and is accordingly pliable...

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Yes. But I'm not sure Valar in general understand what is objectionable about reading the private thoughts of the dead and restoring them to life contingent only on editing, and I'd be more confident in striking a balance between these concerns if mine were represented to speak of.

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One solution that might satisfy is that demons be permitted only to resurrect the dead, as they were at the point of death. Mandos could continue to heal those who on death desired it, but if they did not desire his healing they could instead be restored exactly as they were using the current method.

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Death here meaning pre-Angband-upload? Would this prevent use of uploads for benign purposes?

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Mandos will check with those who most recently were conscious in Angband - he can check without making them conscious again - and heal them and restore them to life if any of them so desire. But for the restrictions on daeva, yes. 

 

I have fewer reservations about people requesting copies of themselves, but not none, and that would probably be temporarily halted by the proposed set of restrictions, yes.

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Will you be able to apply these restrictions to the daeva's own worlds, and the other world to which they're sometimes summoned?

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If it is in my power I want to stop the Eldar from being creatable in the daeva worlds at all. I'm not yet sure if it is in my power. There is a great deal to process anew, here. 

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That would alleviate some concerns about containing the information on how to perform the resurrections.

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...can be done. Not by me, alone, I don't think, not without a few Ages of work, but when my brethren are restored it could be done instantaneously.

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You're sure you can make accurate predictions about what they'll do and if I bring Mandos back he won't just say, I don't know, 'no, I like editing people'...?

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He will say that the duty Eru gave him is not lightly discharged but that in Arda Unmarred it would never be necessary anyway and he certainly will not grieve if it never is.

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If you're sure.

One of the things I like best about the design of Dwarves is that they're made to be safe from that sort of thing.

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I agree.

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I can move the Valar and Maiar here when I get them out of the black hole; am I right that this is the right place to put them?

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Yes. Here is the closest thing to what they remember. If they decide to build anew they'll do it in consultation with the incarnate population.

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I would also like a guarantee of the safety and freedom of the person who placed the black hole. He would have done without given another way to neutralize the Enemy and wants nothing more than for me to undo the damage for him.

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In something that grave I am not sure I should simply take your word for it.

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What would you prefer?

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Speaking with him would be useful. 

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I'd fetch him but he isn't popular on this planet - here - Cam is now within osanwë range. Not on the planet, just within osanwë range. She, lacking osanwë, switches to speaking by illusion, confined to avoid eavesdropping Afterlifers. "Cam, Aulë wants to talk to you. Aulë's the one who invented Dwarves, if you don't have them memorized."

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Uh. Hello. ...Dwarves are cool.

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Thank you. It seems my counterpart in this world had less capacity at his disposal to do right by them. If he had given them the afterlife I developed for mine, you might have had more choices. 

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I, uh, got them all piggybacked on my afterlife once I could do that and I think the Enemy avoided killing people who couldn't be backed up as frequently to avoid provoking me.

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It is a choice we were confronted with also. A fight that would tear apart the world, or - inaction. 

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It's not a good choice.

If Loki couldn't fix it there are some people in Hex who might have been able to get something worked out. And I wasn't going to stop looking until I turned up something -

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Well. Let's set it right, I think that'll be more useful to all parties than forgiving it.

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Nod.

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"Satisfied?"

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I am.

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They'll leave him be?

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It may take a while for him to be welcome in Valinor. They will not condemn his character or decisions.

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Nod. What about the Doom? Has that been disrupted; would it be reinstated?

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It has been - not disrupted, but I think fulfilled. They said that the good intentions of the departing rebels would lead only to an evil end. And it has come, though it was not their end. There is probably something of value to be understood from that. The Doom is not currently affecting anyone in this world and would not be reinstated.

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All right, I think that was all my concerns.

She reaches -

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And everyone who was in the black hole is right where she wants them to be, instead, on Afterlife.

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When should I come back to fetch whoever's coming to clear the bioweapon and see about preventing offworld chip forks?

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We will probably take a few weeks to consult. I know it's urgent.

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It can wait that long. Cam checks for written correspondence addressed to him routinely, that's probably going to be the best way to get ahold of me in that time frame.

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I see. Thank you, Loki, and good skill.

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Thank you.

And she's all the way back on the spaceship.

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And Cam flings his arms and wings around her and clonks his head on her armored shoulder and sobs.

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Their crimes were on a smaller scale, but - still. He can imagine the feeling very vividly. 

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Cam receives hug. "The Valar are going to consult for a few weeks and then they will address the bioweapon and concerns about ill-motivated resurrections and forks."

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"I take it if they can stop resurrections in Hell they'll probably be doing a good thing, there."

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"Yeah, if someone really wants to live in Hell they can just teleport there."

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"Want me to hold down the fort on Jotunheim for a few weeks while you explore all this exciting new information -" and make up your mind about him, I literally could not have designed you a better boyfriend - "and space Arda shakes itself out?"

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"If it's not too much trouble!"

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"None at all!" He takes Findekáno's arm and pops out.

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Endorë's third Maitimo and second Findekáno blink in bafflement at their surroundings. They are very pretty. Sufficiently pretty to distract even Elves who are motivated to talk to each other and these ones are not. 

 

 

After an hour or so Maitimo says "do you think it's true?"

"I am embarrassed that I hadn't wondered sooner. But - I would have expected it to be more - blatant, everything felt perfectly reasonable at the time -"

"Everything didn't feel reasonable to me, just out of my control."

"You were not acting out of character. Just your worst self a little more often."

"You were out of character but I understood why."

 

"It doesn't really matter. I didn't - it's not that I have a negative impression of your character and have therefore decided to have nothing to do with you, it's that, magic or not, everything that made us worth fighting for got fed into a black hole on your orders."

"Really? Everything?"

"You remain exceptionally pretty. But the - love, trust - yeah."

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"You know, the armor does not actually sustain my life or anything, I just wear it by default," Loki remarks.

"...It isn't, admittedly, the most huggable."

"Wasn't a major design constraint. It's comfy to wear, not to drape oneself over."

"Do you by any chance have a way to teleport it away without me having to let go of you."

"Yeah."

And now this is much cozier.

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There's a trail. They start walking on it. 

"Do our counterparts have a place to stay, here, or were they just expecting we'd have - I don't know - wilderness survival blessings -"

"I actually have no idea, their dynamic was weird." Maitimo says.

"Weird how?"

"I needed you very badly."

 

"I'd kind of like to come up with a different phrasing -"

 

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"At some point I'm going to have to explain to my family that I have alts. Thor's going to make a really puzzled face. Then I will tell her this means there are also more Tyelcormos."

"They an item?"

"They are an ambiguously casual item. She had me hit on him for her at first after checking that I wasn't planning to keep him."

Cam laughs. "- with targetable interdimensional teleportation I can see my parents again."

"Sure. When?"

"Not right now."

"Before or after one of us comes up with an excuse to remove more layers of clothes?"

"...after."

"I'm a little surprised Maitimo didn't crack up, that face you made, he will definitely have noticed -"

"Was it that obvious -"

"You might as well have screamed 'TAKE ME' at the top of your lungs."

"You solved all of my problems," Cam says.

"Yes. I know."

"...is that what it sounds like when I do that."

"Probably. Why, does it come off very badly, I haven't seen 'smug' on you yet," Loki says.

"Well, I don't know that it would be universally popular but I'm a fan."

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"The version of me in this universe is very dependent on the version of you. And also thinks of Cam's local alt as practically a sister. I don't know if being tortured improves my character or something but -"

Findekáno shudders. 

"Maybe if I knew more I wouldn't envy him. ...we could ask Cam for a post-upload rescue fork, see if you fall in love with him."

"...by envy him do you mean because he has his Findekáno or for some other reason."

"Mostly that."

"I find it implausible that you'd think fifty years of torture was worth it if it meant we still got along -"

Maitimo stares at him quizzically. "But of course I would."

"...what it would actually have taken was a lot less than that!"

"And it was during the war and I couldn't let myself - could never have forgiven myself for - wasting the time, there were people dying..."

 

"Not a waste of time now."

"No. But you said it's too late, the trust and love is gone."

"You're good at people. You could try fixing that."

"I had assumed you didn't want me to."

"I didn't. But - I guess I would like to know where we'd be without insidious mind control, even if the answer is 'the same place' -"

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"I knew I would feel better after they were back," Cam says, "I knew that, but I was thinking I'd have to, I don't know, go see the look on Thuringwethil's face or something before it really hit me."

"You met a Thuringwethil too?"

"Yes. Did yours incompetently hit on you?"

"She wasn't that incompetent. That or my impression was colored by years of sexual deprivation, that could also be it. I didn't go for it, though, 'has fucked Sauron' is a dealbreaker."

"Mine was pretty incompetent. Something about being called 'the Destroyer'."

"I'm sort of fond of being called Godslayer but..."

"...better aim."

"Yep."

"In other people hitting on us news Iobel got her husband a birthday present which was me."

"Ha. Was it delightful? Should I find out when mine has his birthday?"

"It was nice, if you wish to dispense me as a birthday present too I don't object, I don't know if he'd go for it? He looked, uh, marrieder."

"I'm not actually sure what their arrangement is. I can probably waggle my eyebrows at him until he tells me if it would be tacky to ask."

"We should have some form of arrangement. I don't object to monogamy in principle but it seems, I don't know, vaguely wasteful, with all these universes?"

"Yeah... I need to figure out what to tell, like, Sigyn. - My best friend, with benefits."

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They keep walking. "So," Findekáno says. "Are you going to try."

"I am trying to think if there is a way to do it that just involves sex and not lots of painful conversations, I don't know how much stamina I have for painful conversations."

"...lonely decade?"

"Of course. You?"

"I don't know if I love you but there is never going to be anyone else."

"I had kind of decided I lacked an important skillset and would be wronging anyone by even trying."

"Think the problem is an overuse of a skillset, not a lack of it."

"Mmm?"

"You don't know how to stop using people."

"I usually manage not to hurt them."

"You hurt me."

"Yeah."

"When Cam said I could get in the shuttle or he could kill me for practice -"

"What should we have done, there?"

"Depends what you wanted. But me to ever be able to trust you again was not the thing you wanted."

 

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"We need a collective noun. Wasn't as urgent when it was just me and Iobel, but as it happens 'Bells' is a cute thing to call us in my native language."

"Suits me."

"Peal of Bells."

Loki laughs.

They exchange the stories of their lives.

Eventually one of them comes up with an excuse to remove more layers of clothes.

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"I want you to be able to trust me again. What's that going to take."

"Nothing you'd be willing to offer," Findekáno says. "I have thought about it."

 

"...not going to swear to get your approval for future war crimes, I guess, no."

"I did not think so."

 

"I'm sure I could have done that conversation better, even if the outcome was fixed."

"Yes, you definitely could have."

"Would you have told someone?"

"...yeah. I understand your reasons and I'm not calling you evil for it but I would not have covered for it and I still think you're very lucky there wasn't some clever loophole you missed that made it a horrible mistake instead of just a horrible atrocity."

"We worked really hard on the wording."

"My assessment factored that in."

 

"I mean," Maitimo says, "it's not as if that specific thing is going to come up again."

"No."

"If you'd met me after it'd happened, what would you think?"

"...that you're very competent. You haven't actually displayed having a personality, lately."

"As you keep reminding me, we fed a lot of people into a black hole. I think I just kind of have to keep moving forward until -"

"Well. We're stuck here for a month."

"Could try writing a message in the dirt to Cam."

"I apologize on behalf of my alternate universe self."

"He did it for me, so I apologize on behalf of mine."

"Your alt needs my alt, that feels like an important difference."

 

Maitimo stops and stares at him wonderingly. 

"...you disagree?"

"I might not need you as badly as the tortured-for-fifty-years version does, but - you are the one who just observed that I have not discernibly displayed a personality in a decade, or any preferences on a smaller scale than 'a functioning empire' -"

"I don't think I'm the source of your personality, or the cause of you wanting things -"

"Having hurt you as badly as I did makes my personality suspect and my wants even moreso-"

"Oh, for fuck's sake, Maitimo -"

"I need you. I have always needed you."

 

"I think our alts have unusual tastes or something because if he thought we were going to work this out he could have provided a planet with, like, furniture -"

"We'd better not tell him it worked, it'll encourage bad habits -"

"It worked?"

"You just expressed a desire for furniture. That's, um. Something."

"Maybe if we keep hiking we'll find it. Don't say anything else so I don't lose the mood."

"I need you. I have always needed you. I love you. I have always loved you."

 

There is, it transpires, a house. On the beach.

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Cam goes and visits his parents and introduces them to Loki.

Loki brings Cam to Asgard and shows him off to her sister and father and Sigyn. (She's not exactly not speaking to Odin, but she is also not telling exciting news promptly to Odin.) Thor is confused and unsettled but manages to go along with the concept, and she is intrigued by more Tyelcormos (has she mentioned today that Tyelcormo is great, have you seen his smile). Frigg wants to know that the others of Loki have had easier lives and is reassured, mostly, by tales of benign parents and pleasant childhoods and the distinctly temporary inconvenience that was Cam being shot in the head at age 22. Sigyn wants to know if Cam wants to sleep with him. Cam's game.

They go and introduce Loki to Iobel. (And have to be decontaminated afterwards but it's a lovely visit anyway.)

Loki turns up on Jötunheim an amount of time later that can be described as a few weeks and tries to find the least weird possible way to say "so my alt got your alt the other one of my alts for his birthday...........".

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Maitimo has been managing Jotunheim serviceably, of course, though she's the one with the advantage of being their missing princess. He beams at her. "All well?"

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"All's well! Are you checking on your alts occasionally, they haven't written to Cam and it's not guaranteed that it's occurred to them."

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"Findekano has. They are making Elf-paced progress - well, Elf-paced progress emotionally, they were sleeping together by the first day."

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"How's this going to propagate to their forks? Or does this have to repeat four times, or six, or...?"

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"I imagine they can just tell the other ones that it's worth working through it - that seems to have been the barrier, they'd hurt each other badly enough to decide that the relationship was not positive-value, it's not that they weren't in love..."

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"I'm glad they're fixing it up all right. I met your Hex alt," she adds. "He has short hair! On purpose!"

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He shudders. "I'm accustomed enough to it that I think it's cute on some people but I can't imagine doing it. How is he?"

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"Vaguely chagrined that Iobel's cat hates him - conspicuously simultaneously not an Elf and definitely a you, it's really interesting - he's very flattering amounts of delighted that there are more of me! Well, more of Iobel."

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"And it means you now get the chance to meet 'what I was like before the war', or a closer approximation, I always vaguely regretted that we did not meet back then."

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"Me too."

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"Thank you for killing Morgoth again. Hopefully we get word on Thauron soon."

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"You're welcome. And yes, I hope so too, the closest thing to a redeeming feature of the existence of Saurons is that they're so satisfying to kill."

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He smiles. "And I assume someone eventually got around to taking Cam around to fix all the obvious material-scarcity-soluble problems in the galaxy?"

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"Yeah, he went out and saved a hundred million lives while I was asleep."

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"Oh, so you did help yourself there! Good, he's adorable and that look on his face -"

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"I know, right - is this what it's like to be you all the time, because him I can read like a book - and isn't he just, did you want to borrow him?"

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"...if we'd met before the war after all I'd be thoroughly delighted. But no. You're sharing? I'd bet Findekano that you two would get married -"

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"Well, we might do that," she shrugs, "and we could not share but we could also just... share? I mean, imagine the look on Sigyn's face - anyway Cam let Iobel give her husband him as a birthday present, thought I'd see -" Shrug.

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"I appreciate the offer." Fake smile, though. "Want a summary on what you've missed, here?"

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"Yes, please."

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He has a very thorough and readable summary for her. They work. He heads back to Vanda Nosseo to find Findekano.  "Loki offered me Cam."

"That's, uh, thoughtful."

"Apparently my human alt was thrilled."

Findekano watches him fondly. "I can see it. ... Shame about -"

It is a very long, excruciatingly specific list of triggers. It had taken them several years to get to 'an activity as enjoyable as other forms of socialization'. Maitimo insists that this is satisfactory and anyway he likes most forms of socialization quite a lot, doesn't he. "Yes," he says, "shame about that."

"I think," Findekano says, "killing another Sauron was next on the agenda."

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It was! As soon as Cam gets word from Flat Aulë that the Space Valar have had enough time, Loki escorts them around to everywhere the bioweapon may have gotten that the Tesseract can't reach - it turns out to take a hop through the daeva worlds to get to Cam's Earth, which was also necessary for the trip to Limbo - and then, who wants to pretend to be very nervous at Sauron -?

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"Think it should be you, he doesn't have as much of a psych profile on you yet."

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"Do you think he'll notice I'm an alt of Cam? That'd get him somewhere, if not much of a somewhere."

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"Cam, ah, did make a deal with him that he must have liked at the time, so I don't think it makes it extra implausible."

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"Fair enough. All right, here goes, then."

And she goes and yoinks a Sauron.

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"Aren't you very glad I decided to write? That would have been very sad, all of those dimensions suddenly dying off."

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"It was very considerate of you," she says. "What do you want?"

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"Cam's permission to leave this dimension and a worldleaper. I can't do that trick again and I will tell you how to clean this one up."

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"Is that your only deadman switch - or anything else like it, is that all -"

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"Cam's permission to leave the dimension and a worldleaper, and I swear I'll truthfully answer a few questions before I go."

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"Has to be the other way around, if you've got the place rigged in fifty ways and then you leap off -"

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"Shame you can't make oaths."

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"I can't."

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"I swear that if you confirm there aren't any other deadman's switches or things that'll happen that we disapprove of in our dimension when you take a worldleaper and go off to bother a different one, then we'll give you your worldleaper. Your plague's spread to six dimensions and we need to know how to clean it up. I swear I have interdimensional transit and will take you out of here to a location of your choosing myself once you've given us three honest answers."

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Sauron's eyes glint, at that. "Reckless, Feanorian. There are dimensions that suppress unfamiliar magic, and you might not have a way back. Or are you thinking we'll get along? Because we do. Splendidly. I swear to answer the next three questions you ask honestly."

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(Loki has Cam check that one -

- gets confirmation -)

"Other than the plague we already know about, exactly what contingencies have you set up that would inconvenience or upset us if you were attacked or died or found an oath loophole or otherwise found yourself interfered with or free to act?"

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"There are many orcs still loyal to our goals who I expect to avenge us and to carry out what they understand to be our intentions, which I've left for them to the degree the oath that destroyed Valinor allowed. Some of the institutions in Angband run directly off Melkor or I and buildings will collapse and chasms open and volcanos erupt and so forth if we both die."

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"Did you find anything we would consider a loophole in the oath Cam extracted?"

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"Nope. It lets us create planet-sized blocks of servers torturing animals but I think Cam was aware of that, and it lets us influence politics towards destructive ends but I think he was aware of that, too."

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Can you think of anything to spend the last question on besides 'did you know I gave my batch of Elves free will'?

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Such a good last question, but if he can bioengineer terrifying plagues maybe he's got a contagious cure for mortality or something...

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Well, I suppose we don't technically care if he answers the free will question honestly.

"What other facts can you tell us that you sincerely expect we would most want to know?"

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"The universe I have in mind to teleport to won't let your magic work and is full of things nastier than me. That's three, Maitimo darling."

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"Your counterpart was better at intel. Loki gave us all free will, Thauron darling."

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"Last words?" Loki inquires.

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"In seven hundred thousand years," he says to Maitimo, "you'll have spent more time free than my slave."

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And Loki kills him and props things up in Angband so they don't explode.

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"Not one of those things that one really gets tired of, is it."

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"It is not. Although I hope for everyone's sake they turn out to be rare beasts."

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"Yep. I might hop planetside and actually meet my counterparts here, Findekano yelling at them for thirty seconds didn't count. Cam, where am I going?"

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"Thank you. Pleasure meeting you and murdering your enemies."

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"Good to meet you too."

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Pop! 

 

Oh, the space Elves have a nice city. He likes it immediately.

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"Thank you," Cam tells Loki.

"Honestly I think I got more out of that than you did, you've had fairly cursory exposure to the extent to which he needed killing."

"You're welcome?"

She laughs. "So is it just me or do all the Elves really, really need nicknames - we don't have such name collisions yet but if we did we'd have nicknames hour one -"

"I even have one to hand, it's Revelation - I'm thinking of naming my native world that."

"I like it. Ever since Aulë called my world the world of many stories I've been thinking 'Edda' - it's the collection of stories I told on Midgard as collected by Midgardian poets."

"Nice."

"...Space Arda and Flat Arda need names. Flat Arda isn't even flat anymore."

"Yeah..."

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The Noldor have a linguistics guild that is happy to get on this! It'll take them several years, though.

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This is the same problem Cam had when he named his refugee planet! But 'Atriama' is taken now, so he will let them get on that without preempting the debate.

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And after a month Cam will get a letter requesting pickup from a lovely beach house somewhere on Edda.

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Cam has learned to teleport now! He turns up in person. "Hey."

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"Hey! Would our counterparts have found 'a forest, no food' to be a totally reasonable environment in which to spend a month or were they messing with us?"

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"...I don't know? I was assuming if you did not find the place habitable you'd write me a note..."

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"A month's not that long, just on the far end of 'annoying', but I'm curious what they were thinking."

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"I still don't know any of you all that well. I can ask Loki if you want." (Wag.)

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"Congratulations. And sure, I'd like the chance to meet her more anyway."

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"Can Space Elves not make do in random forests for a month?"

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"I mean, we weren't in danger..."

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"I'm not actually sure if they thought you'd be comfortable or just not-in-danger, but they may genuinely not have thought through the part where higher tech backgrounds tend to lead to less wilderness survival experience."

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"...that might be it. Can I go tease my counterpart about this oversight - well, can I have something to eat first -"

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"What d'you want?"

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"I don't think we were feeling very particular."

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Cam hands them each a bento box.

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"So what have we missed?"

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"Oh, Loki solved all of the problems that there were."

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"I am glad to hear it. And you've picked up the interdimensional teleport, does that mean Limbo's now all provided-for?"

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"I had to work around the existing indestructible Limbo Objects but yes pretty much."

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"...those moveable if we need indestructible limbo objects for something sometime?"

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"Some of them are! I'm not sure you could move the buildings, but like, my mother has an RV."

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"I'm very glad all of the problems in the universe are solved. We should probably get home and see what piles of work that's somehow created."

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"And update your forks in whatever manner it is customary for you to update your forks, likewise."

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"I expect they're ahead of us, unless you mean on the observation 'you're probably better at relationships when not under mind-affecting Vala magic specifically aimed at undermining them'?"

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"Yes, that. Doom's out of the way, now, I checked."

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"I keep wavering on how reasonable it is to expect of myself that I should have noticed and corrected for that."

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"I'm assuming you were distracted."

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"Two hundred thousand people dying every day. It wasn't that we couldn't have gotten along splendidly, it's that neither of us could have forgiven ourselves for wasting time talking through our feelings like that..."

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"How long would it have taken? Did it have to be a whole month?"

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"...four hours, probably. I told Mitros that in hindsight we should have spent them, but at the time it seemed like an indulgence, it's not as if it had any costs other than I think alarming your counterpart very badly..."

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"Exasperating me, maybe."

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"It was in fact exasperating. Vala mind-affecting curses: not fun for anyone involved."

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"Well, the Valar are back now but seem very unlikely to bother Endorë."

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"Oh, good. If they do it again I think I'm emigrating, it's unpleasant realizing someone's been tampering with your head."

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"It did in fact already occur to me that my counterpart managed a functional relationship with a whole lot more tampering. I'd congratulate him, but I'm not getting the sense he'd appreciate it."

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"He thought I was a self-insert character in a well-orchestrated hallucination until I came up with the ability to grant free will."

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"Most possible people who were once me are probably in the same boat, but they're all dead and we're not retrieving them, so I don't get confronted with it much."

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"Well, Sauron's dead now too."

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"Okay. He was a terrible person but a harmless one; did you decide he wasn't actually harmless enough?"

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"He had a deadman's switch set up to kill everybody on Endorë and everyone anywhere someone had traveled after visiting Endorë. It was a pain and a half to fix because it turns out the Tesseract has an adjacency limit. Which puts it in a really bad mood. The Valar helped with Hex and the daeva worlds and Revelation though."

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"...I'm glad you caught that."

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"Cam caught it. I killed Morgoth and Cam checked his mail."

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"Signed it with a fucking smiley face. Can't be positive that the signal would have reached offworld but if it had the infinity stones don't reach to some of those worlds, so -"

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"...good thing we didn't do him first."

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"It's possible it wouldn't have gotten any farther than Endorë and I would have just had to time stone it back, but it was worth toting some Valar around to get them to decontaminate elsewheres."

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"I bet. Shall we head back? I may have to cut short my complaints to my Stone-Age-born alt about being dropped in a forest by someone who presumably thought I could shoot birds to eat or something, it sounds like there'll be rather a lot of work."

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"Sure, where do you want to be dropped off?"

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"Wherever's convenient."

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Cam puts them in their respective cities.

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This means Cam doesn't get to see a goodbye kiss!

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Poor Cam! He doesn't know what he's missing!

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Loki might, at some point, mention that her Maitimo and Findekano are both functional and pretty cute together, so he probably has the gist. 

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Yes. But not to the point where he voyeuristically coordinates teleportations.

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A bit later on Loki mentions to Flat Maitimo that they really need nicknames.

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"I actually go by Maedhros in most contexts, and am happy to use the Thindarin for my world's set, except we can't call Findekano Fingon, it's just such an ugly word. I shall convince him to accept a prettier one and then you'll have your way of distinguishing us."

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"Okay, what I actually mean is 'your templates need generic nickname solutions, there are six Space Maitimos'."

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"They go by Three, Four, Five, Six, Seven, and Eight."

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"And that's terrible!"

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"I don't particularly see the problem, it's kind of funny. Makes Findekano splutter at me."

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"What are the Space Findekános called, then?"

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"Tinkakáno, parmakáno, calmakáno, and quessekáno."

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"See, that's not an improvement, if me and Iobel and Cam had all had the same name somehow I would be Seidr and he'd be Revelation and she'd be Katydid, why are the people who are good at nicknames the ones who don't need them -"

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"Want to give us nicknames?"

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"It's harder for people who aren't me! And we don't know the Space Ones, let alone their distinguishing fork characteristics."

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"Yeah, we do, I met them. They could be Cast, Decision, Current, Jewel, Leaf, and Robin, that'd be reasonable. If it's something you feel strongly about."

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"I meant Bells do not know them. Those are much better than numbers!"

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"Okay, fine, I'll go swing by the Findekános and come up with names for them too. Bells, hmm?"

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"It means 'bell' in Cam's native language and seems to be our name overlap."

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"Okay. I'll go name all the Findekános before you find me some more of them."

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"Thank you. People should not go by numbers or letters it is just a mistake."

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He comes back a minute later and announces that the Findekános should be named Delight, Shard, Blessing and Diamond.

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"Lovely. Where are you getting these?"

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"You seemed to care about it a lot, so I just came up with things. They're suited to the people, but very loosely - mostly to what my model of the person first notices as distinct from my model of my version - like, my first impression of Cam was that he was lonelier than you, didn't really believe that his most important achievements were ahead of him - but would sure as hell leap on a chance for them to be - and less raised in statescraft - otherwise very much identical to you - so the nickname'd just be something that called up those associations..."

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"I don't understand how your aesthetic sense objects to 'Fingon' and not to 'Three', however charming the process that led them to index at three!"

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"My name is Nelyafinwe. It was an unsubtle dig at my father's half-siblings and I only use it in formal contexts. However, having six of me running around as Nelyafinwe, Cantafinwe, Lempefinwe and so on turns it from an insult to them into a sort of running joke.


Also Findekáno's name needs to be a delight to say aloud, that's not a standard I hold names to in general."

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"It's a very charming process, like I said, but I would not recommend your father's taste in names to someone who kept goldfish."

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"Well, now you've got pretty ones, and I can straight-facedly call a Findekáno who cannot stand me 'Delight' and explain that it's your fault."

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"Why is that one 'Delight'?"

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"He happens to be in a role that brings out a lot of things I am fond of in my husband. Also he barely glared at me, which is lovely, considering - did Cam tell you what Decision did to them?"

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"I have the outline. Incidentally if any of the Space Findekános want apologies from Cam he'll oblige, he just currently doesn't feel like that would look more like an apology than like seeking absolution from people with more important demands on their time."

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"I don't see that being particularly healing to anyone, no."

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"Didn't think so, though I'd mention in case. You were saying?"

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"Oh, there's a particular point at which my alt got him to agree to something by implying otherwise he'd have Cam replace him with a younger version who still did what I said."

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"That, Cam wouldn't have done."

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"Of course not. I wouldn't have asked him to. But Findekáno didn't know that, had barely met Cam, and so it was a profoundly shitty thing to do. Which my alt is fully aware of, of course - he is of a 'also I fed a planet to a black hole' mindset about it, but that doesn't mean he's not horrified - but -

- if I'd known that I wouldn't have asked my Findekáno to fix it, even though I was entirely right that it was fixable."

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"- are the Space Maitimos and Cam all assuming full responsibility for the black hole?"

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"And the space Findekános, who invented resurrection and therefore prompted Cam into it."

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"That's a little much!"

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"You can see why I was tempted to arrange for the person who is best at telling them so to tell them so!"

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"How are they settling out post-month-in-random-forest-did-you-expect-them-to-be-hunter-gatherers?"

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"We had a lovely time on that planet and it in fact didn't occur to me that they wouldn't know how to live off the land. With the human versions I'd have thought of it but I was thinking of them as 'us, with their tech boost a little sooner', not as 'none of the formative experiences of my first two thousand years'.

Findekáno and I had planted all our favorite things from Valinor there, everything in their vicinity was edible.

 

And they're together. Obviously. Don't know how fast it'll propagate."

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"Asgard is in fact very unusual in keeping all its technology in the basement and only bringing it out for special occasions and having its children go directly from learning particle physics to learning to field-dress miscellaneous ungulates."

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"Not even ungulates! Quail and wild turkeys and fish! To be fair, I don't think they knew how to make a bow or fire it, they might have known how to cook an animal if they'd got one.

And the plants were all edible too."

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"Because eating random plants you find growing around is so safe if you don't recognize them..."

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"We apologized profusely. Though it's not that dangerous, the perfect-bodily-control thing, you just try a tiny bit and notice what's happening..."

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"That thing sounds so useful but I feel like it must be an amazing attention drain."

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"Surely some daeva has by now been interested in putting in a chip and loading up my alts' version and can report on what the difference is like?"

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"If they have, it hasn't grapevined its way to Cam yet."

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"Cam's lovely. I'm - happy their world found us, if it was going to exist anyway."

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Nod nod nod.

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"I can't think of anyone better suited to you, either."

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"It had somehow failed to occur to me in advance that I should clearly just date an alternate universe instance of myself. How could I have missed it."

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"You come in boy! With an adorable tail and a ridiculous powerset that complements yours well and you can bond over residual Arda triumph-trauma."

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"He got the wings very early on becoming a demon," she says. "But it took him decades to decide he wanted the tail and it was only because he'd get more range of expressive motion while summoned gagged that way, but apparently it's just tremendous fun to have a tail. He's also cuter than I'd speculated I'd be if I'd been a boy - I couldn't go out in a 'me as a boy' disguise, someone might've noticed, but I killed an hour designing something way back when, came out okay but didn't really look like Cam."

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"Cuter than Cam's a very high bar. How were you imagining yourself?"

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"Like so," she says, voice adjusted too, "the voice was also wrong. I didn't even think there was a meaningful answer to the question and there is and I was mistaken, I'm so embarrassed."

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He giggles. "That one's more intimidating. If one didn't notice how Cam carries himself he'd look about as frightening as a puppy, he's got such an innocent face."

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"How he carries himself? I assume you mean something other than the adjusted balance for the wings and tail."

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"Yeah, the indestructibility. You're like that sometimes when wielding the Tesseract - like no power could conceivably do more than minorly inconvenience you and you've had a long time to grow sure of that -

 

-  tail's pretty great too, though."

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She giggles. "We have not actually had a Tesseract-versus-indestructibility contest because it's in such an awful mood and it seems like a bad time to discover there is something else it can't do, if it can't."

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"....and also then you would not have a boyfriend, if it could? Or are you assuming it'd be able to tell you what it can do without actually doing it?"

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"I was just going to take his wing off," she says, "he has those made without nerves in the joint in case he ever decides blue's not his color, wouldn't even hurt, he could replace it."

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"Of course. Well, when the Tesseract's in a better mood you can let us all know how that goes."

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"Yeah, although I'm not sure how long it'll take."

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"Well, I'll hardly notice if it recovers its good mood at Elf pace."

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"It is older than you, you know."

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"And Cam is, what, a hundred fifty? You're cradle-robbing."

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"Cam and I have been adults for similar amounts of time! He just got to that point with less of a running start."

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"Asgardians do have intolerably long childhoods. We can get eight generations in in the same time, and we're the slow-paced people."

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"That didn't start really annoying me until I was three hundred, and then I was annoyed, and then I got this extremely time-consuming magic and figured it was just as well to have a low-responsibility period of time in which to frontload the effort..."

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"Several dimensions are now grateful for it."

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"Speaking of which, Cam thinks the next time it is occasioned to go worldhopping to find new destinations we should do it from Edda, on the grounds that if the Tesseract's limit is one step of adjacency and the worldleapers have the same limitation we are collectively best equipped to handle arbitrary things, Enemies, et cetera, within its operating neighborhood."

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"Sounds like a good idea, yes. When are we next inclined to go worldhopping?"

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"Haven't set a date. Sometime convenient with respect to proceedings here."

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"We can sell people a lot of lightleapers and give quite a boost to the fix-the-galaxy project, and we're checking whether our counterparts can make magic items because there's more of them. Not just the forks, they had a larger starting population."

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"Cam'll be happy to supply the lightleapers, of course."

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"He's so useful!"

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"He is! He's very nearly as casual about making stuff as I am about illusioning stuff, only less so because he has a habit of trying to avoid making things he doesn't have a plan for keeping or getting rid of."

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"Getting rid of things sounds like it'd be as simple as any spell with your magic system gets, no? Not that we'd have to worry about disposal in this case, the whole point is that we'd sell them."

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"It would not be hard to write up a spell for deleting things from existence," she agrees, "but it would interrupt my working on general-purpose resurrection. Maybe if I find myself without enough tasks to task-switch to."

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"How goes general-purpose resurrection?"

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"It goes, but it's certainly decades out unless I suddenly go into a panic about someone who needs to stop being dead yesterday and does not have a specific-purpose option handy."

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"I will tell all the people who'd inspire such a panic to stay all nice and alive, you've done enough of pushing yourself through spellwork at a screaming pace lately and now you have a boyfriend you'd leave lonely."

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"It's true, on both counts. He might mope. It would be awful."

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"We'd have to go run and find some more Bells to cheer him up, but I doubt they all come in 'known as Godslayer, solved all his problems'."

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"No indeed, not that he isn't fond of Iobel. Who is lovely."

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"I think I ought to be pleased with my counterpart for noticing which, of everyone in his kingdom, ought to be put in charge of it. But on the other hand, marrying a woman. What a human thing to do."

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"You considered marrying a woman for several minutes before you decided you were hallucinating too much to use it as proof that you weren't hallucinating. Anyway, it's not an Elf-style marriage."

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"I remember that! If I'd known that the marriage would be dissolved in a few years anyway I would have gone for it, but then if I'd known that I wouldn't have needed to."

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"Oh, I don't blame you for not doing it, just pointing out that it is not exclusively a human idea, though being human makes it make more sense for him."

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"I'm sure I'll get used to the idea eventually. It's actually my father who I have the hardest time to come to grips with as coming in 'human'. I'm better than him at languages. That just shouldn't be."

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"Does an eidetic memory necklace not close the gap?"

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"Oh, it mostly does, and my father's hard at work on a working memory one at which point apparently the Marlatians will surpass us all. Still."

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"Iobel's really looking forward to that! Optimistically, if there's not some undiscovered hard limit in the system, her spell development process could jump to 'sort of like mine only it takes a few days'."

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"...wow. Mitros wanted to rule the stars before his society knew what they were, I guess he's going to get his chance."

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"Well, she'll still probably have the six-a-day one-if-it's-big limit, she suspects the system won't self-break like that, but combined with all the transmissible magic we can dump on her head, yep."

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"What's adjacent to Hex, do we know?"

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"Space Arda. Otherwise nothing yet explored."

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He smiles. Real smile. 

 

"I don't know if I ever thanked you for my being alive, but lately I find myself actively preferring it sometimes. So. Thanks."

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"You're welcome."