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Kib in Arda
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Valinor makes a lot of money. Valinor makes a lot of storks. The money goes in the storks and the storks go in the human world.

The storks deposit polite notes at the creches of settlements known to practice slavery, reading, The storks decline to supply the human trafficking industry. The storks do not deposit any babies at these creches. Or money.

Lári remains, conspicuously, a baby. Kib wonders if she is sick or something but it turns out that Valinor's just slowing her growth like it does that of Elves. (She will still be an adult before Ambarussa, just barely, if the factor of the slowdown is the same.)

Kib receives more visions from various people, pieces together what he can, passes on what he manages to figure out. He starts work on a program for a truly generic golem, one that can talk and so on, with Aydanci's help. (Has he mentioned he's married? He's married. His husband is a brilliant servantmaker!)

Kib tells Findekáno he loves him after Findekáno has taken him to a play and secreted him off to a nook in an unoccupied garden and been generally loveable. This meets the "romantic occasion, can be met with kissing" criterion. Maitimo's much harder to set that up with because he's more supervised and more paranoid, both; their occasions are smoldering at each other over games of Governor (Aydanci plays sometimes as Kib's second when Findekáno is Maitimo's; Aydanci thinks the way Kib and Maitimo look at each other while they play is entertaining) which is just not the same and Kib tells him so.

Not that I'm hinting that you should distort your risk tolerance to take me on more datelike dates, but it does make it challenging to arrange the thing I said I was going to arrange, Kib explains.

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Maitimo is jealous. Maitimo has some very detail-oriented people do a thorough trip through Hresk, acquires the information he needs, tells a lot of lies, spends two months engineering contractors around each other so that none of them know what the other ones are doing or who in Tirion, exactly, wants them doing it.

 

Maitimo asks Kib if he'll go through to Hresk with him, there's an inventory problem he wants to take a look at with a human to help explain human customs.

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"I am a human!" Kib says. "Clearly my most important qualification for any task."

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Maitimo has commissioned a boat.

 

To be entirely honest he'd been working on doing that anyway, they are going to need one to go to the Outer Lands eventually and with the knowledge and magic of Kib's world crossing oceans is safe enough. The shipbuilders aren't used to Elven standards of pretty, but he has lots of money and designs borrowed from Alqualonde. 

And so now he has a satisfactorily (stunningly) pretty boat in the style of Alqualonde's swanships, docked in a harbor in Hresk. It is called Ambition - might have made it home, somehow, if he'd called it Akibel - and it's very smoothly rowed by automata but he got a ring for seasickness just in case Kib happened to be susceptible.

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"Is your inventory problem that this boat's cargo hold did not have your boyfriend in it?" Kib inquires suspiciously.

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"...might have been. About a mile out across the water there are stunning sunsets, come with me?"

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"Twist my arm," laughs Kib. "Of course."

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About a mile out there is a very small island. He terraformed the island, not because there was anything particularly wrong with it but because there's this delightful springy grass in western Valinor that's like lying down on a cloud, so why would he have anything but that? He has foods Kib likes. 

He has a project of Curufinwe's, lenses that gave human wearers Elf-like vision. They're going to start selling them soon but the reveal isn't for a month. 

They can watch a sunset.

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"Oh colors," breathes Kib when he puts the goggles on, snuggling up on the springy grass.

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"I don't know why the Valar didn't try a sun, it's stunning."

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"Suns are great. This is exquisite." Nuzzle. "I love you."

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"I love you. Both our worlds are fortunate you found ours."

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"Thank the snake monster."

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"Why would I do that, when you're right here?"

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"Well, I suppose that while the snake monster is to thank for the finding I am to thank for the fortunateness."

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"And if I have a choice of who to thank I think I'll go for the one I can thank by kissing him." He does. "No one else who got snaked is back?"

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Kiss! "Nope, just me so far. Been a while, too."

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"We knew most worlds might not have a form of interdimensional transit."

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"Also possible most people didn't land someplace as safe as Valinor."

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"At a guess, probably not; rather few places are as safe as Valinor. Though we'll get there! Anyone folded on slavery?"

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"Not as such, although a stork brought me a letter explaining why the storks should supply the human trafficking industry please."

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"Oh? And why is that? Slavery's lovely, really?"

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"That particular city-state doesn't enslave any of the people who come up in its own creches, don't I see, just foreigners."

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"And obviously our objection was that those babies specifically might be slaves, we aren't bothered by the thought babies we're depositing elsewhere might be slaves."

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"I haven't decided yet whether to write back that we declined to supply demand for the human trafficking industry either. Like, on the one hand, what an excellent rhetorical point, yay me, but on the other hand I don't want to be corresponding extensively via stork."

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"Think it's likely someone'd find you? Or be able to try something even if they did?"

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"It's not very likely on either count, but I seriously considered not even explaining to the slaver states why they were being excluded and letting them figure it out by induction, I'm uneasy of making it too salient that the storks are directed."

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"Well, in time either they will come around or they will stop existing, and I'm content either way. Unless Father gets a general solution to mortality and he says it's in the works but a Year or two out..."

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"That will complicate trying to use storks to get people to behave. A couple Valian years is enough for them to start feeling a pinch from an aging population, though."

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"I have reservations about not handing out immortality to slave states."

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"Yeah. Me too. I guess depending on distribution method we could decline to hand it out to slave owners. Manumit everybody in your possession first then step right up."

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He nods thoughtfully. 

"...I actually did not terraform you an island so we could talk politics exactly like we're back in Tirion."

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"You didn't? Gosh."

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He puts his arms around him. "...I admittedly mostly terraformed you an island because I was jealous. But - I love you. I am deliriously happy you fell into our laps. I am really looking forward to fixing everything in both universes, and the fact we have to keep this secret is on the list somewhere, although, you know, slavery - I wonder if I'm in fact capable of not talking politics..."

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Snuggles! "The island is lovely and you being jealous is cute and I love you too and it's not like politics isn't interesting but you are handily telepathic and could simultaneously kiss me."

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He kisses him. I get jealous over you all the time, it's ridiculous. When you first mentioned you'd had a conversation with Findekano I was so embarrassingly confusingly upset - and I did not in fact know he'd decided he liked you - and then you were married - I am very good at sharing if I am allowed to occasionally be melodramatic about it...

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Well, I like how you do melodrama. Mmmmkisses. With pretty boats and this fantastic grass, I want to carpet my house in this grass.

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Isn't it lovely? Like lying on a cloud - or what I imagined lying on a cloud would be like, before Manwe told me that they're just water vapor...

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Yes, exactly. Like lying on a cloud in a dream.

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I should like to give you the world but islands are an acceptable interim present. 

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It is the best island and I love you.

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I know you do. 

More kisses, less clothing?

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Capital idea.

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When it gets very late he brought blankets too. They can stargaze - the worlds have, of course, different stars - and fall asleep in each others' arms. 

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There aren't even any pox dreams to interfere with the coziness.

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It's a week after they get back to Tirion that someone brings to Maitimo's attention a discrepency in visitor records in the last half-Year of mortal tourism in Valinor. He thinks about telling Kib he has another inventory problem, but this is a little too serious. 

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Kib is busily explaining to tourist humans that they should have read the infosheet.

"It specifically says not to hit on the Elves. It explains why not to hit on the Elves. After last month there is a footnote about how loitering in the bathhouse staring at the Elves in the nude merely amuses them and does not constitute hitting on the Elves and that if they giggle at you this is because they find your interest in nudity inherently hilarious, not because they're flirting with you. Did you read it?"

"I - I looked it over, but she -"

"- was reacting the way you'd react if Elves blushed at you for combing your hair in public, because she thought you were being a silly foreigner and jailbait at that, not flirting."

"Well, I didn't know that!"

"This is because you didn't read the infosheet! And therefore not her fault!"

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Hey, can you stop by here when you get a chance?

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Yeah, sure. "So you're going to read the entire infosheet, I did not put any words on there for my health. You are going to tell her that you are very sorry and should have known better and you apologize for being so inappropriately moved when you were overwhelmed by her beauty -"

"- that's not flirting?"

"This is why you're going to read the infosheet first, you can look at them naked and tell them they're pretty you just can't touch their hair or kiss them, there is a reason I hand these things out."

"Oh."

"And then you are not going to bother her again and you're going to go home for at least six weeks. Got it?"

"...okay."

And when this gentleman has been sent on his way Kib meets up with Maitimo. What is it?

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We've got more humans going in than out. Consistently. For the last half of a Year. The ones who come in and don't go out aren't vetted and I was trying to sort out how that happened and then I realized - they're babies, the portals consider them cargo. Someone's smuggling babies into Valinor after all.

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- what, and putting them where?

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Excellent question.

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Would require adult human assistance, most likely...

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Yep. Lots of people have made return trips. I can assign someone to the portal to watch everyone going in with a baby and make sure they leave with them...stop anyone who doesn't so we can talk to them, you think?

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Yeah, ask them where they put the kid and why... Probably shouldn't publish an infosheet update with "do not leave babies in Valinor", tips whoever off that we've noticed.

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Should I expect trouble if a baby-smuggling human is stopped?

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I'd be a little surprised if they don't have some cover story set up, so that's probably not an instant problem. Although you might want to get somebody else to ask 'didn't you have a baby' instead of doing it directly.

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Yes, definitely. 

 

Alright. I'll let you know more as soon as I know more.

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We could if necessary have some storks on this side of the portal, since looking for babies is what they're for, but that's if we can't find them with detective work.

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How do they find babies, are they going to bother everyone in Tirion who has one?

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By default they only look outdoors, and they mostly listen for crying. I could tell them to do something else here, and it might be that they can tell the difference between human and Elf crying and then I just have to have them ignore your sister.

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I'll get back to you on that if detective work doesn't get us there.

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Thanks for letting me know.

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Sure thing. Thanks for playing cultural mediator.

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My pleasure.

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They find someone two weeks later. Comes in with a baby, leaves without one, says his husband took the baby back, what's the problem. Maitimo's watching through his guards' eyes and the guards are pretty sure there was no husband who took the baby back. Several of the guards also have things to say about men marrying men, which Maitimo doesn't reprimand them for because what would he even say. 

Kib, want to come talk to this guy?

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Yeah, sure.

Kib shows up. "Hey, sorry the Elves are harassing you about having a husband, they get like that."

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"It was on the infosheets," he says grudgingly. "We didn't kiss or anything, they just assumed we'd kidnapped and/or abandoned a child. Lunatics. Pretty ones, but still."

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"How come you even brought a baby along?"

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"My husband works at a creche. Kid had a nasty persistent cough and someone mentioned Valinor's supposed to have gardens of healing or some such, so we thought - we'd been planning to make a trip of it anyway -"

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"Oh, did that work? Should I update the sheet?"

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"Give us a couple days to get back to you on that; kid seemed fine but the cough comes and goes anyway."

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"Has your area got medical golems, I have an in with the medical golems guy."

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"Not yet, that'd be tremendously helpful."

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Notebook. "What's your name, where are you and your creche?"

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He lists a place halfway across the continent. 

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"Wow, you hauled a long way to get the kid to the garden and you're not even staying long enough to make sure it worked?"

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"The everyone finding our existence deeply offensive wears on you, it happens."

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"Yeah, I hear you. Bothered your husband more than you?"

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"Yep. And he didn't have the private thoughts thing down so he was mentally spitting insults at everyone and figured it was better to just leave."

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"And lemme guess, you're as bewildered as I am by babies so he took the kid back instead of leaving 'em with you."

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"They're just - until they can talk I haven't the faintest idea what you do with them..."

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"Bit of an inscrutable appeal. Well, I hope you at least liked the gardens, I hear they're stunning."

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"Very pretty. The whole place is pretty, just -" he shrugs. "They're aliens, I guess I don't know what I was expecting."

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"Well, I'm sure we can sort out the records discrepancy; when'd your husband go home, what's his name?"

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"A week ago, Herzal, and I think the baby's Arenet? Something like that. They call him Ari."

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"Mkay..." Rummage rummage, is there a Herzal in here?

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There is! He left a week ago.

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And the babies are cargo. All right... did Herzal and this guy arrive together?

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Yep.

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"Okay, you should expect a medical golem fleet in like a week, I'll have them find Ari and check on him specifically."

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"That's thoughtful. It's not that urgent, I'm sure babies get coughs everywhere."

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"Sure, but I consider myself responsible for Valinor-humanity relations and you came all this way for the kid's cough only to be driven off by Elf homophobia, it'd make me feel better if I knew that the garden had worked or at least he was getting top quality care if it didn't."

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"We'll make sure you can meet him, then."

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"Well, the golems will, I can't justify the travel time."

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"Of course. Have a nice day."

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"You too!"

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He leaves.

 

Anything of interest? Maitimo says an hour later.

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Cover story holds up to conversation but he did flinch when I proposed contextually reasonable things that would check on it. I'm gonna slip a courier in with the medical golems and ask for the record of the creche he named but they can just name any random kid Arenet. Sneaking suspicion that whoever's orchestrating this is deliberately recruiting gay couples to cause Elves to be stupid around them.

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Well, then we're playing our role perfectly. I could ask my father to tell off people who make homophobic comments, I attract attention if I do it but he's firstly married and secondly known to be rude to people he thinks are stupid.

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Well, I doubt that will help with people being stupid around baby-smugglers directly but it might be desirable for other reasons.

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All right. We'll keep an eye out for any others.

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Maybe start insisting on writing down names for all the babies as they come through.

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Good idea. I'll do that.

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And Kib puts the town the fellow named next on the medical golems list, and sends a courier golem in with the quarantine-keepers and the nurse-assistants and the vaccine-preppers. It asks for the records of that creche.

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Creche is happy to provide records. No Herzel works there. No babies named Arenet, and none who died or went missing recently.

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Which information Kib relays to Maitimo - So they're keeping pretty deep cover.

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Toward what end? If someone in Valinor wanted to adopt some kids they could, my father certainly got away with it...

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What's particularly odd is that the creche itself existed. It wasn't made up, someone looked up a creche that was a little too remote to be convenient and had the guy claim his husband worked there. And I'm not sure. Obvious use for humans besides "adoptee" is "servantmaker", maybe someone thinks that importing adults who know the trade would - obviate the usefulness? Either because they want the servantmakers for human-unpalatable purposes or because they want to fly under the Valar's attention...

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I don't like either of those possibilities. I don't want to raise the second one with the Valar lest they close the portals entirely.

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Agreed. Is there some plausible or merely-exaggerated story you could put out about some kid having nearly had some mishap here such that parties with children under, call it eight, cannot wander off without their Elf escorts? Because Elves are so very concerned about the welfare of children, you see?

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I'm sure I can manufacture something. If we put it in the brochures they'll know we're onto them, though.

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Yeah, I'm not sure what steps we can take without making that clear, though...

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Discreetly follow everyone who comes in with a small child? It cannot be that common, your people don't usually have small children around...

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I guess you could be pretty discreet, you see so much better.

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I'll have to explain to some people what's going on but I can pick ones I trust. 

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Could also do it with pet birds but they'd be less able to report back on the details.

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They could follow whoever the babies are handed off to, though. It'd be harder for an Elf to discreetly follow other Elves.

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Elves with bird pets told to obey them that they can send after the babies.

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Sounds like a plan.

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Can Tyelcormo catch me some nondescript birds without wondering too hard what they're for? All I've got is a magpie from my past life and the colorful one I petted shortly after I showed up.

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Definitely. He thinks you're fantastic.

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Does he?

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Are you surprised?

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I didn't think he disliked me or anything but I wasn't aware it was 'fantastic' levels of not-dislike.

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Tyelcormo's favorite thing is telling everyone in Tirion to go fuck themselves and he's been delighted with how you managed to get yourself acknowledgedly married and then proceed to shove it in everyone's faces.

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Ha. Okay, should I ask him for birds directly or through you?

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Either way is fine with me.

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So Kib goes looking for Tyelcormo, Aly's magpie on his shoulder.

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People can point Kib to him; he's flopped in a field full of horses, and stands up readily enough to come say hello.

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"Hi! How're you?"

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"Lovely, you?"

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"Pretty good. I've been thinking about acquiring more birds. I am sort of retroactively used to having this one around, Aly got him, but he's coming up on the end of his lifespan unless Valinor messes with it, and the data's not in on that yet. Thing is I can't actually catch them."

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"I can get you some birds, sure. Magpies specifically?"

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"Nah, doesn't have to be magpies, just, not, like, cassowaries."

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"You know what I should also do is get you a baby dinosaur."

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"Dinosaurs being those things I shouldn't approach because I would be more inconvenienced than an Elf if I died and even if I wouldn't Aydanci would probably have flashbacks regardless?"

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"They range from, like, vicious dog-sized to perfectly benign but house-sized - " he sends mental images - "and yeah, I've nearly died fucking around down south once or twice, and at least I knew I was just chancing a little tweaking by Mandos into a better citizen. But if I get you a baby then you can do your thing with it and it'll grow up and you'll have a dinosaur."

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"Cool. I will defer to your judgment on what kind of dinosaur I ought to have. Ideally something that will be able to find its own food around here."

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"Yeah, and something that's happy as a loner or among Elves because I don't know if their needs go away when you do your thing to them."

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"I don't actually know, I'm a golem specialist - you're welcome to ask Thief, that being the magpie, if you like, but I think he's still mad that I had to tell him to stop eating people's hair, it was the one bad habit Aly let him keep but it wouldn't go over well here."

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So he tries reaching out to Thief with emotions that should be usefully communicative - dislike of a crowded noisy environment, is that familiar? Is that a language we have in common?

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Sure, familiar. 

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And he does the stitching-together of thoughts in a familiar language to ask - what do you want? What makes you happy?

Aly! Food! A nice place to live! Aly is a nice place to live. Nibbling on hair is nice, can't do that, that's terrible. Aly's hair is short now, too.

 

Uh, seems to modify them to make you a thing they're happy about, so they might be okay without the stuff they normally need, but I don't want to bet on it, I'll just get you a dinosaur who's not a pack type. And it doesn't make them want whatever you want or anything, it's still basically a magpie that wants magpie stuff. And it is sour about the hair.

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Thought so. Poor Thief, so inconvenienced by Elf social taboos. Kib strokes magpie feathers.

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Aren't we all. I hope he doesn't age here but either way I will get you some birds and a dinosaur. 

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Thanks! Also I don't mind petting stuff for other people, I can get them to do what other people say too. If multiple people want dinosaurs.

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So, uh, there's nothing in Tirion except Huan who could stop a dinosaur under intelligent direction on a murder spree, so maybe make them follow non-murderous directions from other people, unless they're all people you trust?

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Yeah, I can hand 'em out with safeties.

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And I wonder if I can get ones big enough to fly on.

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Ooh! That's probably safer than riding flying puppets or golems, those have an awful accident rate... my husband would probably panic anyway, but somebody ought to have fun with it.

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I will be sure to have all of the fun for you.

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Enjoy!

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He whistles to Huan and bounds off.

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Kib reports to Maitimo that birds and one or more baby dinosaurs are on their way.

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Oh, dinosaurs! That's a very Tyelcormo idea, I hope it works out.

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Me too. Also apparently my magpie really does love me after all!

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I never understood how he does it but I'm sure he's right.

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It's pretty weird that there is this clearly magic, entirely one-off thing that is him talking to animals.

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Very weird. I can't think of other things like it, and I expect I'd know of them.

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Yeah, I'd expect that too. Weird.

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The dinos will probably take a few months, they're all the way down south. Birds hopefully by the next time someone tries to bring a young child through.

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Hopefully. I didn't want to make it sound urgent.

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My brothers are trustworthy. Not that caution isn't reasonable.

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Yes, but I assumed if they ought to be told outright you would have mentioned that, and while I had a sort of tenuous explanation for wanting some birds I didn't have anything resembling a reason to be in a tearing hurry to have them.

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I haven't yet decided who ought to be told outright. Possibly my parents, in case anyone bothers Lári, possibly the King if I am very very sure of his reaction. Findekáno of course.

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Yeah. It seems unlikely that someone would go to this much trouble to collect babies and then go after one as likely to be missed as Lári. Cargo-age babies are too young to be specific babies as opposed to just an assortment.

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They did work very very hard on subtlety, didn't they. It makes me almost more nervous than the actual missing children.

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Yeah. You don't do that unless you think someone who won't like what you're doing will find out otherwise, and it simply isn't the case that my planet needs and wants literally all of its babies and wouldn't donate some without batting an eye - to a good cause.

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Or even something easily glossed as one.

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Optimistically, whoever it is is hiding from the Valar alone and fears only some Stupid Valar Tricks. Like, maybe they want to raise a bunch of humans here because they heard Lári ages slowly and think this is a humanitarian mission and they're not far wrong and they expect the Valar to be unamused. That is the most charitable possible thing I can come up with.

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And the evillest possible thing you can come up with -

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Evilest with respect to the fate of the kids or the fate of everybody else?

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Everyone else, I've got no shortage of bad things that could happen to kids.

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Wants 'em for servantmaking. I mentioned to Tyelcormo that I could tell dinosaurs to do what other people said, too, and he warned me to hand 'em out with safeties because only Huan could handle a rampaging dinosaur... That's not even the upper limit. Are the programming books and all their copies accounted for?

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Think so. But anyone who's bribing people to smuggle babies could also just buy them at a bookstore in your world, yes?

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Yeah. I'd hope they'd miss something but they could probably get someone to tell them what they'd need to the point where they could carve a few corners out of a mountain and have it stomping across the landscape.

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Has that happened in your world? How is it countered?

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Hasn't happened but there is not an upper size limit on golems, they don't need to have moving parts for puppet testing if you're confident enough in your articulation programming, and even if we aren't dealing with Melkor here I am imagining there exist Elves patient enough to carve a mountain a bit.

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Yep. I have a harder time imagining Elves ruthless enough to force a child to awaken it, but I can't say it's impossible - given, you know, averted future in which I do all kinds of things I would have confidently asserted Elves don't do...

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This is not necessarily a horror scenario for the kids themselves. You teach the kids to wake golems, you bring them to the mountain, you go, 'okay, kiddo, wake up the mountain!', I'm not seeing high return on the 'mountain golem' scenario for a child abuser.

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Fantastic.

 

Okay, so we've got probably three Years to find these kids?

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Less than that if they are not in Valinor. Some of them might be servantmaking already if they did not grow up slowed down.

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Fuck.

We shouldn't have let that man leave - Macalaure has a lie-detection song -

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He has a what? That would have been nice!

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I mean, it is not subtle, he has to come and personally sing for ten minutes and then things a person says which they don't believe ring weirdly false - didn't think it was worth the production. I'm sorry. Next people, we follow the kid and we don't let the smuggler leave. I will need to tell the King something if I'm detaining people.

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What'll he do if you tell him some kids are unaccounted for?

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Panic, because in the environment he grew up and rose to power in that'd mean the Enemy'd kidnapped them to breed for orcs. Probably want to go to the Valar. I'm not sure we shouldn't go to the Valar, but - it's very irrevocable. 

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Well, at least human kids would be very difficult to breed for orcs.

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There are already hundreds of thousands of orcs, not much need anymore. Not that that's anywhere near the worst thing the Enemy did to prisoners.

 

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If we wind up having to go to the Valar do we need an excuse for not having done so first thing?

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If we do it within a couple months that'll seem immediate, to them. If we wait longer I'll probably have to do the wide-eyed 'I grew up in paradise and cannot conceive of evil' thing, but I'm very good at that.

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And you pretend you didn't mention it to me, since I didn't grow up in paradise?

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And can't claim that you can't conceive of evil, you're married to a man. I wish the Valar were just a tiny increment less fucking dangerously stupid -

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They'd be so great to have around if only.

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They can probably just find the children! They can definitely do things like make servant-making temporarily not work to be safe while we sort things out! They can re-arrest Melkor! And it is also possible they'll just make Arda fatal to humans or something.

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I have been assured they don't kill people!

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They haven't killed people! They strike me as likelier than me to end up killing people en masse, and we both know I apparently will!

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You, says Kib, are going to do something that is not that, thank you. If this is a realistic concern I could take Aydanci back to my world while you drop the news, come up with an excuse to bring Lári, wait for the all-clear?

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I think they're likelier to seal Valinor than go homicidal within it, so - depends on your priorities? They are by far likeliest to react reasonably, they just don't have very person-like priorities or values so I am not completely sure.

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How much mileage can you get out of picking and choosing which you tell?

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Probably a fair bit. That is an argument for telling them right away, I suppose, I can control how they get the word and who gets it - 

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And it could be a while before another baby comes through, and it could just actually be one of those humans who likes babies and eases up creche population pressures and fully intends to take the baby home...

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Alright. I'll go to Aule. I am very sure that the worst he'll do is close the portals. Which - which side do you want to be on -

He sounds very pained.

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I need to talk to Aydanci, I am only ninety percent sure I know what he'll say -

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Yeah. Let me know once you do.

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Later:

We need time to leave some people instructions on how to make storks and a few other things, but I can do that by courier golem right now.

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Thank you. You have as much time as you need.

And this might be for nothing, I don't know that they'll close the portals.

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Yeah, instructions are in 'open if you don't hear from me within two months' format.

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I love you. Get those written, I'm going to figure out how best to say this.

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Love you.

And later:

Letters en route.

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He goes to speak with Aule. 

 

Aule is alarmed. 

 

He explains what could be going on.

Aule is more alarmed.

Aule calls a council on Taniquetil for all parties who played any role deliberate or inadvertent in the smuggling of human children, witnessed it, or have information of interest to the Valar on it. Aule claps his hands together and says the portals are people-on-a-preapproved-list-only now.

And the Valar go to Melkor's house in Tirion to speak with him, but Melkor is gone.

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...well, Kib has two birds and they're on Melkor finding duty now.

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Are they going to fly the ocean? Because the Valar think Melkor's on the other side of the ocean.

 

(Maitimo has his boat brought through the portal).

 

The hearing is only marginally helpful. Forty-six children, starting half a Year ago, never brought in under the same names.

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No, the birds aren't going to fly the ocean. But in case the Valar are wrong.

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No signs of Melkor. 

No signs of Melkor for several months.


Tyelcormo comes back with a whole flock of swifts and starlings and seagulls merrily keeping him company, and a baby pterosaur - 'wingspan of eleven meters when he's grown, with a good wind song I'll totally be able to fly him' and four baby Tricerotops - 'they're herd animals, they wouldn't have been happy alone' - for Kib to pet.

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Kib pets them - some of them Aydanci does to speed things up - they may as well. There are no babies to track but there's a Melkor to keep an eye out for.

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Everyone's nervous. The Valar extend an invitation to the whole of Tirion to come up to Taniquetil for a festival to improve morale.

Bit clumsy of them, Maitimo says wearily, but I suppose they're trying.

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That is clumsier than me with my ring off on a tightrope, what the hell.

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You coming?

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Should I? Aydanci would take some convincing to travel all the fucking way to Taniquetil to have a badly timed party on several counts...

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I'd stay home if I could get away with it, honestly. Tell Aydanci you are glad you have him as an excuse to miss the badly timed party.

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I will. Love you.

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See you in three weeks. Enjoy how quiet Tirion'll be. 

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Will do.

And Kib stays home with his Aydanci and the, what, dozen people besides them who didn't go to the festival?

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Probably more than a dozen, but less than a hundred. If the Valar say you are invited you're really supposed to attend. It's a peaceful first week. The dinosaurs love the palace gardens.

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Baby dinosaurs really are very cute.

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In the middle of the second week one of the birds sees something on the southern horizon, and comes racing for Kib.

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Aydanci's still asleep and Kib's out to let himself into an unattended tea shop, they're running low - and, shit, everybody's gone, what does he do -

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The Trees go out. 

 

It's not, in fact, just dark - though it's pitch black, no stars in the sky here. It's also humid, the air is sticky, and the air pressure goes up, way way up, and the static electricity on skin effect is in full force, everywhere, so moving feels like crawling through a thick choking field of sparks.

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Kib pulls the shades from his eyes and it doesn't help and he doesn't have any shines on hand -

He tries to catch his breath - determines it's futile - tries to trace his steps back to his house -

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People can be heard, screaming.

 

Aydanci can be heard, screaming.

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Kib has trained himself not to break into a run, and this habit has been eroding around the edges but in the dark it makes sense for other reasons.

He runs anyway. Caromes into the corner of a building - feels out the carvings on it, knows where he is, re-orients, races for home. "AYDANCI!"

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When he reaches the house he runs into rubble.

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"Aydanci? Honey? Honey where are you can you hear me -"

They don't have any shines - no, there's some on a clock. Kib cannibalizes the clock for light, seizes the shines off and pilots them around, looking, they're too small but they're all he's got.

There he is.

Kib collapses to his knees beside his husband, pans the shines over him - "Aydanci can you hear me -"

Wheezing. The shines are colored but Kib thinks that's blood.

"HELP," Kib hollers into the darkness, and osanwë for good measure, HELP, MY HUSBAND IS DYING, I NEED A SINGER OR A MAIA, ANYONE, SOMEONE -

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The Maiar are all at the festival. 

 

There are a few dozen people left in the city and this darkness makes the world look heatless, too, they are not any faster than Kib at navigating the streets of Tirion.

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Somebody osanwë me a healing song I can try to sing it myself - "Honey - honey stay with me. Breathe."

"Trying," gasps Aydanci.

"Good. Good, breathe, okay -"

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Someone sends him a healing song. 

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Kib tries to sing it.

"Not working," Aydanci gasps out, after a minute. "Sorry."

Kib sings on, in case he's wrong, going into shock or something and not fully aware of what's happening, he should know better he's a professional come on -

"Not working," Aydanci repeats. "Promise me you'll - happy -"

"Oh don't you dare," hisses Kib, "don't you dare assume it won't make a difference to me if you die in my arms, were you happy -"

"Please -"

"If you want me happy you'll have to come back and check on me," Kib sobs. "If you can't stay you have to come back, okay, come back to me, I'll wait, come back -"

"How -"

"I don't even know do it anyway -" Gasping, getting fainter. Kib tries to kiss air into him, he remembered CPR the other week, come on, come on - he comes up with a mouthful of blood, spits it away, "Honey."

Silence.

"Aydanci. Aydanci love please hang on somebody'll find us somebody who can really sing please."

He's not even gasping anymore.

"Come back come back I love you. Come back and find me."

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They don't find him for another hour. By then the absolute darkness is lifting, you can see the stars. 

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Kib hasn't moved.

Neither, of course, has Aydanci.

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For - for an Elf we'd start singing, do you want that?

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Yes please.

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So they sing. It is a wretchingly sad song. Other people, when they hear it, take it up. There are not many people left in the city but soon all of them are singing. Someone has been lost; remember him.

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Can you see well enough to take me to the portals? I need - I need storks.

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Yes. Things look their normal temperatures now.

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I need storks. He gently lets Aydanci's body settle to the ground, gets to his feet.

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You mentioned. Come on. We'll walk you there.

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Kib follows them, walking woodenly but with long steps.

There's always a few storks around the portals, waiting to take batches of money to the creches as it comes in.

He can override that.

He can tell the storks to find Aydanci.

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They flap off. The Elves wait at the portal with him.

Someone should go to Taniquetil - tell the Valar - tell the King -

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Courier'll be faster than a rider. Should've had shine code set up...

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Nods. 

 

We should probably tell people on the other side something, too...

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Yeah. Damned if Kib knows what, though. He pans his clock shines around until he finds a courier and calls it over and looks for paper. What are we telling Taniquetil.

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Melkor attacked, destroyed the palace, Fëanáro's house, killed your husband...you've sent off to find his reincarnation - we're not clear on who's supposed to have the command here, please send orders...

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Kib writes it out, shine moving to follow his pen.

His reincarnation if he has one. If a stork to whom the instruction has propagated finds him before one that doesn't know to look does it.

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Do you need anything?

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If a stork finds him and brings him here he'll need to be fed.

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Okay. We'll go find food. How long might it take -

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Liquid food. Milk, juice. Could be a couple days. If it's too long they've got instructions to stop at a creche and get him fed there and it's possible the creche won't give him back.

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Well, if they tell you that we can go and get him, probably?

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Storks can understand people, they can't talk. I have no way to tell the difference between him being at a creche that won't let the stork take him away again and him not having reincarnated after all.

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...I'm sure when everyone comes back they'll think of something.

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Yeah.

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And hey, maybe he'll come back as a girl!

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Kib turns slowly to the speculator.

I'm sorry, he says, I must be mad with grief or something, I could have sworn I just heard you escalate to a status of significant enough to say the possibility that my murdered spouse could reincarnate in a way that you'd find more personally palatable without regard to how either he or I would feel about it, but that can't be, can it.

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...you'd rather a boy again?

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I want him alive. If he's alive he's currently a baby and whether I'd find him sexually appealing is the last thing on my mind.

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Sorry.

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Sure you are.

Kib doesn't say anything. Clock shines swirl around on the desk in front of him.

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People bring him food. His clocks still track time. They keep singing.

 

And eventually a stork comes.

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The stork reaches its beak into itself. The baby's swaddled, it must have stopped somewhere but managed to take him away again.

The stork places the baby in Kib's arms.

Kib calls over his magpie, tells the magpie to find Aydanci. Thief lands on the swaddled bundle, looks at him as if to say 'he's right there, dolt'.

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Everyone looks very slightly relieved.

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I never learned how to handle babies. And I should not be trying to bring up someone who's going to inherit Aydanci's memories in a decade and a half. Help.

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So someone who had several children of her own takes this one, starts rocking back and forth patiently until the baby is sleeping contentedly. We should probably wait on orders from the King to figure out a long-term solution...I'm sure he'll know what to do....

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Maybe.

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It takes eight days for the courier to reach Taniquetil and the Noldor to return from there, on exhausted horses. Maitimo and Findekáno are both in the vanguard.

Did you find him?

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Storks found him and had to stop at a creche to get him fed on the way but got him back again - no idea what the creche is going to think - yes.

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Alright. We're going to war. He must have taken the babies, he must have them in Endorë, Endorë's populated...we're sending an expedition south to get more dinosaurs, planning to send some people into your world to pick up whatever weaponry your people use to fight, so we can learn from it, and building or importing boats to get across the ocean. 

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I don't know what to do with him. If I put him in a creche he won't be able to find me. If I leave him with someone in Valinor - I don't know if the dreams come by developmental or chronological age and Lári's aged so slow I can't have a toddler remembering getting eviscerated by an evil god or watching me die of the pox or - but I can't bring him into a warzone, can I? -

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I mean, in addition to going off to war we are also emigrating from Valinor, we're about fucking done with their interference. Once it was in exchange for light and protection, but now there's no light and there was apparently never really any protection. We'll build cities. They'll be - there'll always be more people between him and the Enemy than there were this time....if you bring him to the Outer Lands I bet he'll age faster, too, Elves do. 

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Part of me wants to put him in a creche nice and safe and assume he'll be fine without me but - and no creche is going to believe me if I tell them they definitely have to make sure this kid gets this letter when he can read - and I can't assume he'll be fine without me, he wasn't, I'd be taking a gamble on how well-adjusted the new childhood would let him be and how long it'd take before he got hit with Aydanci remembering sitting around in an empty house grieving -

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We could also leave him in the south of Valinor with the means to follow us but that doesn't help much if he's developmentally two when he gets all the memories...

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Yeah. Which, he might not be, but if he was, fuck -

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I'm guessing from the fact Melkor didn't attack until Tirion was empty that he cannot, in fact, murder his way through our host at will. We can build a very safe city - we'll be keeping you very very heavily protected too, for that matter, you're quite the strategic asset - we can probably keep him as safe as he'd be anywhere, and at least you'd know he was safe...

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Yeah. Whereas I suppose otherwise I'd be constantly paranoid that Melkor went wherever I'd left him...

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Your choice. Either way we want you to go south and acquire us more dinosaur cavalry, ones more specifically chosen to be dangerous, and your advice on what weapons to buy in your world. 

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Yeah. Okay. When do we leave for dinosaur territory.

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Plan was two days, but if you need more time than that that's okay, and if you want to head back to the human world first and get a lot of very very bright shines we're going to be trying to figure out how to grow food with them.

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I don't think it'll work naively because they only go on surfaces but maybe there's a way to refract them or something. I'll go get shines and ask around about weapons stuff. Is there going to be any time in here for me to cry on you or Findekáno.

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Yeah. As much as you need, really, in wartime 'leave and don't ask questions' is a perfectly reasonable order we can give at need... I hear that Tirion no longer has a palace, but we can find somewhere or accompany you over to the other world...

And he can give Kib a hug right now, no one will dare read anything into that.

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Hug. I love you.

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I love you. I'm so sorry. He will grow up loved and happy and you two will have each other again and the Enemy will never, ever be able to hurt people again.

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I yelled at him while he was dying he wanted me to promise him I'd be happy and I said he'd better come check up on me -

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And he did. When he has that memory is he going to feel yelled-at or loved?

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Probably depends on how happy I manage to be in the interim.

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Hugs.

 

 

Melkor, it transpired, burned down Tirion's library. Even against the background of everything else that provokes a lot of startled cries of pain.

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Is the scribe still there or did the fire burn hot enough to melt it?

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Scribe's still there. Bit dented, does that mean it won't work?

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Only if the dent mangled any of the lettering or makes it immobile in a way they can't fix without denting the lettering.

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"Looks like no. So that's something. What should we be buying in the human world, assuming we're willing to spend everything we have in reserves...."

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Human world has some war servant designs - hard to come by on the open market, not hard to find pictures and descriptions of to reverse-engineer. Ballistae, various melee weapons - Elf bows are better than human ones, at least if you have an Elf's draw strength. Armor's a thing, doesn't come in Elf sizes but it's not hard to buy.

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"We're going to be doing magic weapons and armors, but it might be worth buying yours to work off. War servants we'll try to get as much information as we can - we should probably buy food, it might take a while to figure out how to grow it in the dark like this - do you think we can convince any other servantmakers to come along or is it just going to be you and Lári and Aydanci..."

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"I can ask some of my co-prentices if they want to come - Aydanci's social circle is holding down the fort on storks, can't ask them - I don't think 'hey want to leave the world to go fight an evil god' is really appealing and I don't know how to present it more appealingly."

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"I realize. And grabbing non-Aydanci babies is pretty indefensible. We can offer generous pay, maybe, if we don't all die... if anyone wants to ride a flying dinosaur, this will be their chance...I suppose with the three of you we won't be in desperate straits, anyway."

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"I'll ask my co-prentices but I'm not optimistic."

He asks. They don't want to come.

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Understandably. Two hundred thousand enchanted melee weapons for the whole Noldorin host is going to take half a Year, but they're leaning towards doing it anyway on the grounds it is better to arrive prepared and useful. Boats are being assembled meanwhile. They're training with non-enchanted melee weapons while the magic ones are developed and produced. By the time they depart they will be very good at sparring.

War servants will be reverse-engineered.

Maitimo can't be spared to go down south and pet more dinosaurs but Findekáno can. 

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It's good to have company. Even if they have to be fucking discreet about how nice the particular company is.

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Well, the Noldorin royal family now has effectively absolute latitude and he's fairly willing to abuse this when it's for his boyfriend whose husband just died in his arms. Kib is a valuable strategic asset and so Kib stays in his tent with a dozen guards on him whenever he leaves it. And the tent's woven soundproofed because he needs to be able to have classified conversations about the war, doesn't he.  They do make sure to have two separate bedspreads in the tent, and to leave them both looking slept in.

 

It's a month's travel in good conditions, and it's dark, might take us twice that. You want some projects for along the way?

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Like what?

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I don't know. The war servant reconstruction, communication shine relays, what else are you in the middle of?

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Nothing else I can do on the road. Those I can do though.

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They head out. Kib can keep up on a horse fine, if he's petted it. He will probably be pretty sore by the time they stop, though.

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Yeah, kinda. He doesn't complain about it much.

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Well, if he would like a massage he can totally have one.

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He would like one. "Love you," he sighs.

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Love you too. I am so sorry that we were not there.

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Should've dragged him to the stupid festival.

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Should've never paroled him in the first place - the Valar are all still consulting on Taniquetil, they haven't moved. Except to cry. Over the Trees.

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Yes, of course, the Trees. Poor Trees.

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I was sensitive to their grief over the ecological disaster before I learned that, in fact, people'd died. How they can't see...

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Who else, I don't think I got a list.

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Total of ten - palace, library, people who got in his way. Aydanci's the only one who seems to have been targeted, his other targets were things - Fëanáro's home and workshop, the books, various hard-to-replace tools and artwork - I think he was trying to anger us into going off to war, but I'm not sure that makes it the wrong decision....

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...might depend on why he wants us to do it.

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Presumably he thinks he will win. Maitimo thinks so too, honestly, but there are so many people in the Outer Lands and if it turns out all we can do is evacuate them....and I don't think he's realized the full potential of servantmaking, and those prophecies are from a thousand years from now where there are still civilian kingdoms in Middle-earth, so if we lost last time, we didn't lose very fast...

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Nod.

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I tentatively expect the Valar will fritter away twenty or thirty Years considering and then stop him themselves. I think we can hold on that long.

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I hope Melkor actually slowed down my aging and didn't just say he did.

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Fuck.

Is there a way to check -

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Too soon to distinguish between 'he actually did it' and 'Valinor, itself, slows me down like it does Lári'. I don't look like I'm pushing thirty, definitely.

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Fëanáro was making progress on it but he's stoppped now for magic weapons and armor design, and he's needed there, too...

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If it is realistic that this war will go on for three hundred years and that I and Lári and Aydanci are all going to age human-normal rates outside Valinor and servantmaking is as important as I think it is, I'm not sure he can afford to put that off.

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I will point it out to him. He was thinking he'd have it inside a Year anyway.

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Yeah, that's fast enough, I won't be that much impaired by being physically twenty-eight compared to eighteen.

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And we weren't heading out of Valinor just yet. How are you impaired by aging?

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Lower energy, misbehaving joints, Aydanci - twitch, had back pain a lot, hearts give out or brains hemorrhage or livers fail, generally everything starts to work worse until something one can't live without goes on strike.

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In a couple of Years. Ugh. I really hope once Fëanáro does have it sorted there's still some way to export it to the human world. 

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Be nice, yeah.

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...if the Enemy doesn't have it he has a very narrow window in which to take advantage of his servantmakers. Unless Melkor can fix it and just didn't for you because he's evil....

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Oh, I don't have any trouble believing that he can keep all his kidnapped kids young as long as he needs them.

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Think we should be trying to get to Endorë faster?

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I think it's worth taking advantage of our prep time. He'll be slowed down by the fact that he doesn't know what it feels like to make any servant other than shines, which are a communication advantage but not a physical threat. So he'll have to wait for the kids to learn it the long way, he can't osanwë them.

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And how long will that take, how old will they need to be...

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If he got a prodigy and took all the books and translated them perfectly or raised the kids speaking the common, six, seven years old, could even have one doing it already, but he got random babies, he wasn't combing through creches for smart children...

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And I doubt Utumno or whatever has replaced it is an ideal educational environment. We've probably got our half-Year. 

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You don't think he could compromise his torture-fortress aesthetic to get servantmakers faster? I guess "faster" is not a known Vala priority.

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Compromise, maybe, build a nurturing environment, I wouldn't expect it - though he was much much subtler than we gave him credit for, I guess - what do you think his goal with handing out all those prophecies was....

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I don't know and it makes me nervous.

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I'm hoping it was just something like 'get us all to not trust Maitimo' or 'get him to step down and move to Valimar' but I don't think that's safe to assume...

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Yeah.

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It's probably not the most relaxing massage ever even if he's very very good at massages. He sighs. There are more people in Endorë than Valinor. And there are supposed to be more, new species awakening...

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Lovely timing Eru we were just thinking it seemed lonely around here...

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Yeah.

 

 

We should sleep, it's another long ride tomorrow. And the day after that. 

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Yeah.

Love you.

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Love you.

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Kib starts screaming a few hours in, but that's nothing to worry about.

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Which doesn't stop him. He doesn't wake Kib, though - Kib's said there's no point - and eventually the screaming stops.

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And in the morning on they ride.

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Well, 'morning'. The shine clock says so. It's as dark as it was all night. When they stop in the evening their escort practices sparring with swords.

It'd be utterly stupid for you to waste time learning this, I think, but you can if you'd like.

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I'm disadvantaged in every respect and risking me in a training accident seems idiotic. If I had a humanoid puppet I might try practicing through it but I don't.

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Precisely. But if you were going to feel sad being the only person around who couldn't murder things with pointy sticks we could probably make a weapon that worked for you.

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Nah. I'll murder things with dinosaurs.

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It takes a month and a half to reach the dinosaurs and another month to find, calm and get-sufficiently-close-to-Kib all the ones they want. A few dozen of the pterodactyls with the best wingspan, a fairly exhaustive Triceratops cavalry, a few baby predators which he promises will grow up to be terrifying.

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Kib pets dinosaurs and gives them all safety orders and secondary masters.

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The safety orders can no longer be 'don't kill people', but yeah. And they start the long ride back.

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It can be 'don't kill these people', for now.

"I should have introduced automaton railcarts," Kib mutters.

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"How do those work?"

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"You put down tracks between point A and point B, with smooth turns so even rapidly cycling wheels will be able to follow them, and then you set carts on wheels that run on automata and you plug the instructions in to go and pull them out to stop."

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"Oh, nice. Maybe we can put some down in Endorë, if we can get the metal..."

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"Doesn't have to be metal but it'll hold up better to the wear that way."

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"And I don't think Endorë has wood."

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"Actually, if the Treelight didn't reach it what do people there eat? Do they hug the coast and fish?"

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"Great question. I expect we'll learn soon enough. There are probably local Maiar, maybe it's got a sort of oasis setup where you can find food wherever a Maia bothered to make plants grow."

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"Wonder if anyone's had luck refracting shines yet."

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"Refracting shines, collecting food, figuring out how to preserve food, because in the Outer Lands things rot...magic objects in our style for heat and light, more palantiri - shine-based communication will beat that, too, but we'll need the palantiri first - and ridiculous quantities of magic armor and weaponry. They've probably been busy."

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"Humans know things about preserving food," Kib mentions.

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"Yeah, I think information about food preservation and preserved food itself are both being imported along with the boat automata...is it going to be economically disastrous when storks stop carrying money, because we're spending it all..."

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"I think nobody's likely to have made plans expecting additional stork money. Letter to Aydanci's friend mentioned that it might get cut off and - and if it was causing overcrowding he should slow the storks down -"

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"Yeah.

 

 

 

 

When the war's over we'll get immortality to everyone in your world and figure out an overcrowding solution. Somehow."

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"Yeah."

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"How many children would you estimate we're letting die to go fight this war?"

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"Depends a lot on how long it lasts and how quickly the economies can adjust to the increased stork supply without constant help, they might not need to be slowed down at all. ...Some, though. There aren't enough storks out yet to get all of them and there would be, if - but not everyone's leaving Valinor, are they? Some people can still help make stork chassis, put them through - if the portals get closed outright that's squarely the Valar letting the children die."

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"If it's more than four hundred thousand or so we could go through the portal to your world instead, if the Valar are inclined to close it - that's the population of Endorë, best I know, and it may already be too late for a lot of them..."

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"Except there's going to be all those new species awakening."

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"Yup. No idea how to count those, and 'soon' as the Valar count time might mean two Years or fifty..."

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"Also, honestly, do we know that Melkor couldn't open a portal of his own if the Valar weren't around?"

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"...no.

 

War it is, I guess."

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"Yeah."

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They have figured out a mirror setup that refracts shines into nice greenhouses that can grow plants even in total darkness. They have gathered and purchased a Year's supply of non-perishable food that they pack onto the under-assembly boats. Fëanáro's going to keep working on aging. Curufinwe's taken over his other projects, which include magic weaponry and reconstructing war servants, the latter of which he'll help Kib with.

 

Macalaure has a wind song to help the dinosaurs fly with the extra weight of a rider. He's going to do faster perception next, unless anyone has something urgent. Findekáno has been composing something for crop growth.

A family's been found to adopt Aydanci. Maitimo says they'll be suitable.

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Suitable like, 'can, even while being Elves, successfully raise a son who is going to remember being married to a man without making that unnecessarily horrible' -?

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Yes, obviously that was an important criterion.

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And - he's going to have the same personality but he's starting fresh, even once he remembers things he could get them in any order, if he remembers all childhood stuff first or something he could be forty before he has an inkling he might want me to be in his life and instead go back to nursing a crush on that one antiwar activist or falling for an Elf something, he doesn't have to be married until and unless he wants to be. Can they tone down the monogamy.

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I am very invested in your husband not growing up to think that the proper order of things is forever-exclusivity. 

 

Also, he could be straight.

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...I am actually not totally sure Aydanci's oddball orientation isn't inextricable to his personality but yes he could be.

Thank you for finding him good people.

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Of course. He'll be happy. What do you need right now?

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...does it count as an answer to that question if I say that I need to go meet these people and tell them he likes math and he's never going to be a morning person and stuff like that -

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I can take you to meet them.

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Thanks.

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So he takes him to meet Aydanci's parents. They have a son, who's twenty-five, and were going to have another before the war, and know that among humans men sometimes marry men and nothing negative about this should be said around Aydanci, and the prince Nelyafinwe said it'd perhaps be good for Aydanci to know the other human his age so they'll take him to play with Lári occasionally.

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"That's a good idea. He's - I'm probably going to want to give him a general outline of everything once he starts having the dreams. They're really hard to piece together without knowing what's going on sometimes and they can be in any order, he didn't keep notes as much as I did so I can't just give him those but I can tell him what his life was like -" He tells them how Aydanci will be able to recognize a memory dream. He tells them that he likes math and he's never going to be a morning person and that he's so brilliant and manages to get quite a lot of information about who they're going to be raising across before he breaks down crying.

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Aydanci's new mother gives him a hug. "We're honored. He'll have a good childhood, really. You'll have him back."

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"The important thing is not that I have him back. But thank you."

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Their departure date draws closer. Most of them are working full-time - past full-time, actually, the standard is now two twenty-two hour shifts and then a five-hour break - making magic weapons and armor.

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Kib has to sleep more than that, but no one who listens to him doing it will think this is recreational.

Awake, he works on servants. They're short on books, except the ones that weren't in the library or Fëanáro's workshop; he's the best source of servantmaking knowledge for people doing assembly and programming and etching. He's the only person who can test chassis as puppets to make sure they'll move smoothly as golems or automata. He's the only one who can wake them up.

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Eventually they have a pretty effective war servant, based off some of the models from home. And boats for the crossing. They have another go at singing automata and can't get them precise enough to do magic. 

Kib's boyfriends keep giving him minor magic items. Ring to deflect arrows, ring for unnoticeability, ring that warms in warning when a servant of an Enemy is near...he can put them all on a necklace or something if he doesn't like wearing them as such...

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Well, he's going to run out of fingers if he keeps accumulating them. Although the one that gets warm will probably work best against skin. He wears them.

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And then there's armor, fitted to his size. Lightweight, resistant to a range of temperatures, swords glance off it, they're testing how much force it takes to dent it and the answer seems to be 'more force than we can apply'. It's not quite comfortable enough to just wear around, and the helmet is sort of necessary for it to do anything more than 'make people aim at your head' and is vision-obscuring and annoying, but the Elves are very pleased with themselves. 

 

The magic swords are satisfyingly lethal but it continues to be a terrible idea for Kib to bother with those.

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Well, unless someone wants to get him a humanoid articulated puppet. It'll be really strong, too, if they're that curious about how hard it is to dent things.

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Valar have closed the portals. Temporarily, they say, and with a few weeks' notice for everyone to get back on their preferred side. 


The Valar have also communicated their displeasure with the Noldor overreacting like this.

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There's no way to usefully communicate displeasure with their simultaneous over- and under-reaction, is there.

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Fëanáro does so; he tells them that they're Melkor's kin and imbeciles unworthy of governance of Arda, and that the Noldor will no longer be their thralls. 

 

This goes over - not at all. The Valar do not send a response. 

 

Everyone figures it is time to go.

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Sounds like a plan.

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The boats cross the ocean in about a week. The Elves, who have been working relentlessly, take advantage of this imposed break to sing, mostly, and stargaze. 

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The singing's nice. And the stars.

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They land. The shore isn't held by orcs who open fire before the boats even come in, or anything like that. They scout a few miles inland, report that there are orcs but in relatively manageable numbers. The host marches inland to explore further. They leave the civilians on the shore, well-defended, and ready to take off again in the boats if something goes wrong.

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Kib is not exactly a civilian but he's not a front-line combatant either. He sets up shines where shines need to be to spare people having to tediously program them around with instructions saying to go a foot this way and a foot that way.

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And for a few days the orcs seem to just watch them, scatter at their approach. And then a signal comes and they attack. Pouring across the mountain passes and out of caves the Elves hadn't known yet. They'd estimated there were hundreds of thousands of orcs on the continent. There are a million in this fight.

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That's too many orcs -

The best place for Kib to be is secreted away, within osanwë range of an Elf with a good vantage point to see the fight whose eyes he can borrow, zooming shines into orcs' faces. The dinosaurs aren't bodyguard-sized yet but he can have a war golem on hand and his best puppet besides in case anything sneaks up on him.

He blinds orcs, turns their heads into unseeing brightly lit targets against the darkness, moves the shines on when the orcs die.

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They don't have walls to rest behind yet. They build them out of the bodies of the dead. And they fight.

 

The orcs' swords and armor were not enchanted.

 

And when there's an opening Tyelcormo sneaks out a cavalry wing, down south along the coast, to come back and take the pass the orcs are streaming through from the other side. He is only out of osanwe range for about twelve hours of this operation, and when he's back he's cheerful - there are locals! they're alive, behind walls, and grateful to have the sieges on their cities broken - and he circles back around and they wrestle back the pass.

 

The fighting lasts twelve days. 

 

When the orcs stop coming the only question is whether to immediately march on Angband.

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Do they have any intel, at all, on what's there?

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They're just sending scouts out now. They have the stories of how Utumno fell. That's it. 

But - the Enemy is likely to get stronger, and doesn't seem to have the kids animating mountains yet, and his armies lie dead at their feet, are they better off waiting for him to recall others?

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They could wait for the dinosaurs to grow - they should at least sleep, it's ridiculous how little sleep Elves operate on -

- the fact that the kids aren't getting any less competent is a good point, though.

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They sleep. They wait for the scouts to come back with descriptions of the surrounding mountains. They decide not to wait any longer than that. 

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They've got all the golems they can throw together, vicious little automata to send ahead of them to chew through rock and enemies alike, birds to stay high and call or swirl in informative patterns if they see this or that over the walls -

- Kib, again, had best not go near the fighting.

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Yeah. His boyfriends tell him they love him. He can tell by now when he's one of ten osanwe conversations they are conducting simultaneously, but still, they tell him they love him.

 

And they march on Angband. 

The Enemy does not come out to challenge them. So they send the automata at the walls. They chew a hole.

 

And then the fighting starts.

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(Kib attempts to sleep through the worrying.)

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He'll have to sleep some; they're not back for three days. They are singing, when they return, the song they sang for Aydanci, and someone makes an announcement - 

The King's dead. About ten thousand dead. Thauron's there, and none of our weapons can touch him. Melkor did not get off his throne, we don't know why. We know roughly the layout of the first level of Angband, though they have illusionists. They have shapeshifters, so we're working out new security protocols for making sure the people you're talking to are who they claim to be. 

We're going to build fortresses, besiege him, figure out what kind of weapons it'll take to win. 

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Okay. Is there a preliminary protocol or is even that still in the works?

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If you direct osanwe at someone it shouldn't go to an impersonator. Speak only over osanwe, don't direct it at 'the person I'm speaking with' but at the person you're expecting to be speaking to - that's just a matter of mental habit - more to be announced.

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Okay.

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The next thing to be announced is the location where they're building a city. Once the walls are up they'll escort the civilians inland and there. 

 

And finally, after an hour or so, Findekáno - Kib, you all right?

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Slightly at loose ends, unclear on political implications of dead King, repeating the number 'ten thousand' in my head more than is probably healthy, otherwise fine.

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Yeah, Maitimo's repeating the names. Political implications are that Fëanáro's king except everyone knows he won't really be very good at it so when he's not half-suicidal with grief we shall have a go at gently suggesting to him he just pass on the crown. One of my brothers is dead. One of my father's sisters is dead. If you want to come install lighting in the city, that'd be useful.

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On my way. I assume everything's going to be mad for a bit and comforting you in person will have to wait a while.

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Probably. Stupidly - my parents are clinging to each other and no one's even raised an eyebrow - but yeah, probably. 

 

Mandos had better do his job.

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Be the least he can do.

Love you.

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Love you.

 

And the city is built in a few whirlwind months. It's pretty. Not as pretty as Tirion but pretty enough that a human who hadn't seen Elven architecture would find it jawdropping and the Elves can pass through it without discomfort. It doesn't have a palace, but it has conference rooms with bedrooms underneath them, and because of the design you can get from one to another quite easily, and they have three adjacent. There are shines on the walls with curtains drawn across them. to create the appearance they're not in a enchanted stone underground bunker.

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Yay. He's helping.

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The civilians are also going to underground bunkers. He can make Aydanci's family a really nice one.

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He does that. Of the reservations Kib has about Aydanci being raised by Elves, the obligatory pretty environment isn't one of them.

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They hold a festival to celebrate completing and naming the city. Mistaringe, they're calling it, after the neighboring lake. It is a three-hour festival. Fëanáro is not enthusiastic about wasting time.

 

Macalaure sings. It's pretty.


And then finally they can retreat to their completed rooms and take an actual day off.

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Three hours is an actual reasonable duration for a festival!

Kib is deeply conscious of his strategic value and has a bodyguard golem around pretty much all the time, but 'around' can be out in the hallway.

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Hey. How are you doing?

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Holding together. You?

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He collapses onto the bed. I can't tell if my aversion to any form of self-care or seeking to address my own needs when there are people dying on my command is a weakness, it doesn't seem to be impairing but I am not positive I'd notice.

Holding together is a good word for it.

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Flop. Not sure it's a good idea to find out empirically if it's impairing.

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No. But not sure it's a good time to amuse myself with the stakes this high.

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I get to soak up a fair amount of things that are technically indulgences for me just by living around Elves, I don't psychologically depend on beauty and music the same way and yet here they are, but I don't think there's an equivalent for you.

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Well, there's you. 

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Kib snuggles up. Yes there is. Although I'm a less ambient feature of the environment.

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I know! I have to do all this seeking you out and be seductive. It's terrible. Clearly for the sake of maintaining my morale I should just keep my boyfriends around being pretty ambient environmental features, except for some reason both of them have valuable things to do with their time. 

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Well, I suppose people could parade golem chassis past me to awaken while I leaned decoratively on a wall.

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He bursts into giggles and kisses his hair. Now that I am actually probably going to be King I should joke less about outrageous ways I could abuse the power. 

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Nuzzle. I don't mind, I'm pretty sure you retain the ability to distinguish jokes even after somebody puts a crown on you.

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And I'm very sure you retain the ability to tell me to cut it out. Kisses. We're going to be okay.

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Hope so. Kisses indeed.

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And if not, may as well give you lots of happy memories to start over with and give me a history that'll make Mandos so horrified he perhaps gives up entirely. Can I take you tonight?

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Please do. Far be it from me to obstruct the horrifying of Mandos.

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He kisses his way around to the back of Kib's neck. I have this fanciful daydream in which I die defeating Melkor and have been by all accounts a saintly king and my people eagerly await my return and the bards compose songs in anticipation and Mandos just splutters at the eagerly waiting crowds - the Vala equivalent of spluttering is failing to modulate their voice to make it sound Elven, they sound so ridiculous - 

- and then my father gets impatient and overthrows him, probably, we are presumed to at this point have Vala-dueling capacities.

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Well, if he was hoping for a coherent reply to that he probably shouldn't have kissed the back of Kib's neck because the best he can do is Sounds good - mmm -

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Oh, no, pleased and incoherent is the best. Kib's hair is getting long. It impulsively occurs to him to wonder if he can cut it but this is hardly the moment.

I love you.

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Love you. Squirm.

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He asks if he can cut his hair afterwards, when they are contentedly cuddling.

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Sure. This is probably really kinky, isn't it.

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Oh, ridiculously so. But I don't think being turned on will make me bad at haircutting and you've said you don't mind if things are - onesided like that -

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I don't mind. I never did figure out how to do it myself very well.

Implied, unstated: Aydanci was cutting his hair for him.

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I'm so sorry we weren't there. Even now that we've seen the Enemy and it's apparent all we could have done, if we'd been there, was die alongside him -

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That wouldn't have helped!

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I know. Should it ever come up again, I think I will be able to not run towards the Melkor. But I know I'll wish forever that I had.

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Do not approach evil Valar without a solid plan to kill them. It is not good for your health.

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No. 

 

We don't have a way to kill him.

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It's a problem. Squeeze. Sigh.

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I love you, Kib. 

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I love you too.

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Fëanáro is persuadable not to be a King. A coronation is planned. Maitimo spends a while picking over good wordings for fealty oaths.

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"Should I be expecting to recite this sort of symbolically?"

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"I mean, it's sort of symbolic for everyone; a fealty oath that was meaningfully binding would be unconscionable. Would it bother you to do so?"

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"Nah, just wondering."

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"You can help me pick a wording you like. The standard one is 'I pledge myself to the service of the King; I swear to obey just orders and to resign if given an order I cannot in good conscience obey.'"

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"Has 'just order' got a traditional meaning?"

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"Yes, but it's a bit holistic - it has to be towards a good end, it can't be unconscionable in its own right, it matters if there was a better way of achieving the end, it matters if it was a use of powers that would be harmful if broadly acceptable..."

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"This does actually sound like it would be somewhat meaningfully binding if the exit clause is just conscience-based."

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"You mean that it doesn't let you disobey orders for reasons other than believing them wrong? Yeah. What other reasons would you want a fealty oath to allow?"

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"The definition of 'just' helps substantially but without that I'd worry about orders it was not wrong to obey but wrong to give. With it - I recall some distress over the existence of human city-states that don't allow free emigration, off the top of my head -"

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"Clause for '...or at any time I may resign my citizenship among the Noldorin people and all the obligations it carries'?"

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"Yeah, that helps. Especially if after the fact you can look over the case and reinstate them if they had a point that wasn't anticipated."

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"Can have a formal process for renouncing citizenship and for reinstating it, yes."

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"At which point I could probably think of more things to nitpick but I'm not playing Governor and I think the exit clause suffices."

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"And if I'm evil nitpicking won't really save us. Exit clause, then, and I will consult people about wording it prettily."

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"Even the fealty oaths have to be pretty, huh?"

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"But of course! And the crown has to be pretty, and the throne has to be pretty. It will be an exquisitely pretty event."

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"Good thing I have a guard golem to catch me if I swoon."

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"Are you making fun of me? I think there are laws about that!"

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"...Really? There are laws about making fun of you?"

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"Yes, actually, as part of the whole Valinor anti-blasphemy package. You can get a talking-to for comments that disrespect the person or the office of the King. I'm debating how much of the old code to throw out outright - it prohibits homosexuality, I'm thinking I'll make that more stringent rather than abolish it - but lots of the stuff is Valian nonsense that should just go."

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"I would argue that I can make fun of you without disrespecting you. More stringent?"

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"Because of the seriousness of the accusation the Crown won't entertain it without four eyewitnesses to at least an hour of prohibited activities," he says solemnly. 

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There not being four eyewitnesses - or, well, any - Maitimo leans across the table and kisses him. "Once we don't have an Enemy to fight I will just scrap that law, be open about everything, weather a lot of nonsense. But for now."

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"Humans shouldn't count, though, even still."

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"Nope! Humans are exempt, and anyone validly married is exempt because obviously Eru approves so what authority have I to countervene him."

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"Okay, good."

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"Within the constraints of having a war to win I want you to be able to live your life as openly as possible. And I promise nothing would delight me as much as not having to keep this secret."

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"Nothing? At all?"

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"...okay, omnipotence..."

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"Ooh. Sorry, if I find any of that I'm keeping it."

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"Well, that's terribly unfair! I would share. A little."

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"What does 'a little' omnipotence add up to?"

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"Omnipotence in all respects in which we don't disagree? If I gave you more than that then I would not be properly omnipotent."

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"This is why sharing omnipotence is so challenging. Also, how would I determine if you disagreed? If I have to consult you for every use of omnipotence then I hardly have it myself, do I?"

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"What a terrible dilemma. I suppose when I'm omnipotent I'll have to think about it."

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"And after the war is ended by a snap of your fingers what will you do next with your supreme power?"

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"End mortality, obviously, and death in general, and ensure the human world can get exactly as many babies as they want to raise every year and no more, and then sort similarly pressing things in all of the other dimensions before I conjure myself a palace suiting the emperor of the multiverse. Why, what would you do?"

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"Sounds about right."

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He kisses him. "Of course it does."

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"It's almost like we have things in common or something."

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"I've always been a big believer in only dating people who agree with me about what to do with omnipotence."

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"It's very impressive that you can figure out what someone would do with omnipotence so fast without asking."

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"I can't imagine how other people make decisions that require trust; it's like they're all operating halfway blind."

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"Well, I'm short some literal eyesight compared to you too when I don't have the goggles on, and yet I manage."

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"Yep. You figured Melkor out, too."

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"Not fast enough."

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"No. But what would you have done if you had?"

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Assuming the Valar elected to be useless? Checked some Maiar to see if they could fix Aydanci's aging instead of bringing him to Melkor - spent a while thinking 'what would I be doing if I were an evil god for some reason on parole living in a house in Valinor' and patched the cargo baby hole - gotten shine code set up -

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Sorry. We got so used to peace and safety -

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I don't blame you. I bought the 'well, forever's a long time to imprison somebody' argument too.

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This time we just kill him. 

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Yep.

Somehow.

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We can't storm Angband yet, not successfully, but no number of orcs are going to do more than inconvenience us, we can hold our own against valaraukar...unless the only reason he hasn't walked over and stomped the city is that he's bored, I think we've got the time we'll need to figure it out.

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And if the mountains start walking all we have to do is deface their inscriptions.

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Everyone has been informed to that effect. Might not be straightforward, depending how he did it - 

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Yeah, you can put layers over the inscriptions, but they have to be at least relatively close to the surface for points of articulation.

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Or use Vala magic somehow, though that takes time. 

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No idea how Vala magic would interact with servantmaking.

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If it just makes the material the automata is made of indestructible, I assume it'd still work.

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Yeah, that wouldn't do the golem any harm, I wouldn't think.

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Well. We took the continent back; we're sending shines and food down to Cirdan's people, the surviving local populations are, well, alive - even if all we can do is stall until the Valar decide to do something, that's not nothing.

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Yeah.

Possible I should do wacky experiments with Huan or something, if there's useful interaction...

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Huan doesn't make things indestructible, as far as I know. He just bites them. The Maiar are all very - angular.

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Angular?

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There are things they're extremely good at and things they can't do at all even though there's no reason they shouldn't be able to.

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If I ever finish the magnum opus golem I would like it as close to indestructible as possible.

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Yeah. Maybe we can befriend a local Maia who is differently specialized.

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How do you find them?

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I'm rather hoping they'll find us, we've certainly made some noise since we landed. Supposedly there's one in Doriath.

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Presumably if we wait for them they will take a decade to show up?

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Yep. But I don't know where to even start on finding them, they won't be conveniently in corporeal form.

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If we could assume they were literate I could arrange shines legibly and send them all out the same distance so they'd arrive in the same configuration, have messages scattered around, but that may not be a safe assumption.

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I don't expect they would be, no.

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Same problem with couriers, making golems that talk is hard.

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I figured it'd be like magic items, which, same problem. 

 

There's supposedly a Maia in Doriath, I'm just hesitant to go poke her without more information than that.

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How do we know there to be a Maia in Doriath?

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The locals have confirmed that Elwe's the King, there, and that his kingdom is hidden by magic of a Maia who is also the reason he disappeared for twenty-something Years back when everyone was emigrating.

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...and we think this Maia is potentially friendly in spite of her disappearing-people-for-centuries habit.

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Well, that's what I meant about not wanting to go poke her without more information.

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Yeah.

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We need to send an emissary to Doriath in the next few years anyway or it'll be odd that we arrived and did not announce ourselves. 

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Well, if we don't gain a meaningful advantage by waiting...

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Have thoughts on who it should be? In terms of capabilities and temperaments, I'll be better at the people...

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Gonna guess 'not inclined to immediately ask what the heck she was doing with that guy for twenty Years' is important. Good at spin, in case she's a Valar partisan and will not be best pleased that we had differences with them. Patient. Definitely don't send me.

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Wasn't planning to. And we know what she did with him, they are now happily married. 

 

I'll try to have another group of people who the first can report to; Doriath's not three hundred miles in radius so we shouldn't need to lose touch with them, and if she's got some sort of mind control that she employs more generally than on lovers we'll at least know what happened to them...

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Kib shudders. Good plan.

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I mean, it's technically possible she's just very good in bed and there wasn't any mind control involved. 

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Two. Hundred. Years.

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I have given you all of the information that I have.

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There is definitely something sketchy going on with any situation involving someone vanishing long enough for civilizations to rise and fall and then popping out happily married to a medium-sized divinity.

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So we'll send the people with an outside-the-walls escort to keep in touch with them, and we won't send anyone we can't afford to lose, and if she's willing to help us win the war we will accept her help. 

Elwe was also by all accounts gay before he met her, come to think of it, so I can't even send people who'd be safe...

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Grand. Not only gay but gay enough for there to be accounts of it!

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Oh, back by Cuivienen it wasn't a big deal, we hadn't had the Valar to explain things to us yet. 

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They're so helpful.

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If you want to get the memos about the adventures of our emissaries, can do.

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I'd be curious, and I can't program and poke chassis and pet owls constantly. Although I'm working on an identity verification golem program. Since I think they might not be fooled by shapeshifters - the same way they can recognize people across reincarnations -

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Oooh, fantastic. I am entirely in favor of keeping an entertaining spread of activities for my valuable strategic asset, and you might notice things in the transcripts. 

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Might. And I appreciate that; I could push myself harder but not indefinitely.

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I think we should plan for the need to last indefinitely, and also have something in reserve so we can push ourselves harder in a time of actual crisis. I'm probably going to dial back the shifts pretty soon, now that we're sustainable on food and all behind good walls.

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Sounds like a good plan. I don't have a great sense of what the working conditions were doing to people - they'd drive humans spare in under a week -

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We had perfect compliance but I think that just means I should stop while I'm ahead. People were swearing mind-controlling oaths to get themselves through their shifts, that's not ideal when we can function without...

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...um.

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Not on my orders, or on anyone's orders.

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Still sounds like a bad habit. Doesn't anyone ever misspeak or anything?

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As long as the first thing you say is 'for the next shift' the magnitude of your errors is rather sharply limited. If anyone's misspoken it hasn't been in the scary direction.

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Still worth cutting down, I think. How do mind-control oaths even work?

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You can't swear to do anything that'd be impossible for you but you can swear to do things you'd otherwise be very disinclined to do, or averse to doing....'for my next shift I swear not to let my attention wander from my assignment' will, in fact, keep your attention as totally on your assignment as an Elven mind can be. Swearing to care about something more than you ordinarily would, or to find something more interesting, works similarly.

 

On the extreme end, if you swear to desire whatever Melkor desires then as much as that's actually psychologically possible, you will. 

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And here I am accustomed to thinking myself as being unusually psychologically self-malleable.

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There is a very strong taboo on pulling stunts like that with oaths, even voluntarily, and people who'd otherwise follow me to their deaths who'd kill me if it were ever ordered. But yes, it can be done.

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And it's not strong enough that people aren't using them like coffee.

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Under very extreme circumstances after having watched a lot of their loved ones die because we were not prepared enough, yes.

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Yeah.

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Think I should have ordered them not to?

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Not quite the level on which I'm inclined to consider the problem. More - what else could they be doing and why aren't they doing that. And maybe the answer is nothing, nothing else would work - but if they could be getting by better with some kind of additional-beyond-singing outlet for the grief or something like that -

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We are probably deficient in tragedy-related coping skills, having grown up in Valinor, and perhaps no one's served by the taboo on romance during wartime, but I don't think they need more recreation, exactly. Feeling useful, feeling needed, being surrounded by beautiful things...

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There's a taboo on romance in wartime?

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Well, among straight people sex is marriage and marriage is metaphysically binding for the lifetime of the universe and marrying someone who might die soon in the fighting is considered deeply unwise. Also, joys are for peacetime, if you only get them once it shouldn't be in desperate times - at least that's the mindset.

Keep in mind that everyone trying to evaluate the tradeoff has never had sex.

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So they don't know how useful it is for stress relief, I suppose.

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It's crossed my mind.

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Humans actually get married younger and more hastily at war. But they can remarry if their spouse dies.

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It is not unprecedented for Elves to fall in love more than once but it actually is unprecedented for us to get over someone.

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Really?

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Yeah. Separate, sure, but - the explanation I always got was that love never fades in our memories.

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Well, I can't claim to regret it but I would have thought harder about it before smoldering at you if I had known that.

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I definitely could have avoided falling in love with you. Probably only by moving out of the country, but still.

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I wouldn't have wanted to drive you out of the country!

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If I came back after you were married I would have coped! I would have been fine if you were straight, too! It's wanting something just in reach that brings out, well, everything in me.

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Are there other examples?

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The minute it occurred to me that I might not have to choose after all between power and a personal life - and it took it a very long time to occur to me - I wanted it so intensely, and brought it about so carefully...

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Was it much of a choice when you thought it had to be one?

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I was going to be King.

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That was my guess. Well, lucky you, you get both.

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I did! It's lovely!!

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Were you at least going to be King and then leverage your kingly power into being able to have a personal life eventually, it's a little tragic to think about otherwise.

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...maybe eventually? It wasn't in the first thousand things I wanted to do with power, and - at the time I had some mixed-up thinking about the whole thing - it took me a very long time to stop believing it was an insult to people to want them, and certainly to have them...

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...that's a really challenging mindset for me to imagine inhabiting so I can't envision how you got out of it.

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Findekáno, obviously. All my intractable errors of judgment tend to be in situations where his instincts are better suited.

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The thing where he teased you relentlessly?

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I tried to imagine how he'd react if I explained to him that I respected him far too much to take him to my bed and my mental model of him was very good and kept slapping me.

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- Kib snorts.

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So then I tried to reconstruct the reasoning - I know people in the sense of knowing what they'll do much faster than I can identify what's motivating them - and that got me - part of the way, as far as 'wanting someone is not inherently incompatible with respect for him, any more than making a specific gesture at him, just made so incompatible by cultural context - and then I could rather disentangle it from there. It didn't help me that I found something appealing about it even when I thought it was deeply disrespectful...

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I may or may not flatter myself to think that I could have reasoned my way out of a social taboo without help.

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You could have. Findekáno did. I have no particular advantage at moral reasoning and take people and their motives and their status games much, much deeper to heart than either of you. And I still might have, eventually, but it was a very Elf-paced questioning.

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D'you know how he did it or should I just ask him?

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I don't know, actually. Worried there are other taboos you might be failing to notice?

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Not especially, just curious. I am occasionally curious.

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You are! It is adorable! You are welcome to quiz him on it. Well, not that my permission'd really be relevant, but.

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Are you sure? It seems non-negligibly likely that this conversation will involve making fun of you.

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Then I will throw you both in the dungeons for it!

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Tempted to ask what your plan is for getting around my warservant, concerned you may have one.

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No comment.

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I will be sure to make fun of you only very discreetly. You will have no idea what is said and languish in indefinite contented ignorance.

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In that case I will have no pretext at all to keep my boyfriends in the dungeons. I am not even sure what else power is good for.

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What is the appeal of keeping people in dungeons and so on? I mean, it's reasonable if the answer is 'I have no idea, just put together that way' but maybe it has moving parts or something.

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...just put together that way is pretty close? It's - related to wanting omnipotence, I find it tremendously satisfying to have everyone in my grasp so I can do right by them. I also have a tendency to derive immense satisfaction from how much people are willing to sacrifice for me and forgive from me  - which I'd never use on wronging them or on orchestrating situations for them to make sacrifices that they experience as such, but doesn't stop me from enjoying the knowledge that they would...

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Huh. I want omnipotence and would do strikingly similar things with it but I don't kink on it. And I think insofar as I have anything like the second bit it works by ordinals and not sheer magnitude.

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I haven't been able to conduct a survey but I think I'm pretty unusual. If you also had a power kink that'd be terrible or interesting. 

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Terrible or interesting?

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Well, I am not compatible with myself, so if you had my exact set of interests we'd be stuck playing power games over poor Findekáno - who'd find this hilarious, don't get me wrong - but I am certainly in principle compatible with people who'd find keeping their boyfriends in dungeons interesting, if they knew in turn that I'd consider that 'politics with an interesting handicap' and not 'deference to the wishes of my boyfriend'.

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Huh.

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This is delightful and much simpler.

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It is fun that there are things like haircuts where it dovetails.

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Yes! And protecting my valuable strategic asset, that's very emotionally satisfying. 

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Giggle. I get a non-kinky but very distinct kick out of being a strategic asset.

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You have not actually expressed kinks farther outside the mainstream than 'attractive men who are madly in love with me', do you even have any?

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If things like 'being kissed on the back of the neck' do not count then I don't think I actually do, no.

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All right. Go make fun of me with Findekáno, if it helps the valuable strategic asset decompress between military projects.

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Will do.

Where's Findekáno?

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Just returned from a difficult and dangerous mission north. clearing sites for mining of residual orcs and the mundane and magical traps they'd left behind. He's in his room when Kib finds him.

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Hey. How'd it go?

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Lost two people. I was worried it'd be worse. I think it's too mountainous for automata on rails to help us much, but I've got sketches if you want to take a better-informed guess. How's everything back here?

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Okay. Automaton rails can climb hills but it requires more sophisticated engineering. I'm working on identity-confirming golems because I think they might not be fooled by shapeshifters same way they can identify people across reincarnations, and Maitimo's going to send somebody to Doriath to see if the Maia there is helpful.

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And how are you?

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Pretty okay all things considered. Maitimo told me the story about how Imaginary You desidewaysed him by repeatedly slapping him.

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Regrettably his prediction of me was sufficiently good that the real me never even got the chance! By the time he acknowledged he'd been paying me any mind at all he was quite sure of what he wanted.

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This is regrettable?

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I would not have slapped him but I do find it vaguely satisfying whenever Maitimo overthinks or overacts himself into a mess and then I can cut him free of it just with a modicum of the specific kinds of sense he is lacking.

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He agreed with me that I could have reasoned out of a societal taboo if I'd grown up with one without help, said you did the same thing.

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More or less, I suppose. I at any rate didn't take twenty Years of propositioning to decide I wasn't going to spend my life alone.

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Did it take you awhile?

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To start pursuing men once I realized that I wanted to, no. To conclude that I wasn't doing anything wrong, a fair bit longer. It was not a length of time measured in Years, though.

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D'you remember what the reasoning process looked like?

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Did Maitimo tell you the, ah, perspective we both started from? - okay, there are Valar, there is Eru, at the time the Valar really did seem to be unambiguously correct and good, they hadn't done anything that was in hindsight characterizable as a mistake, when they give us laws without sufficient reason, we should assume that those laws have reasons.

And perhaps the will of the gods is reason enough, perhaps they feel the griefs of Arda more intensely, perhaps they can intimately sense damage to our souls which we don't notice, perhaps whenever we are marred they suffer more than us, more than in fact our less complicated minds have the capacity to suffer.

So maybe it's wrong. There's certainly a lot of evidence it's wrong, and a very self-serving reason to reach the conclusion it's not, and my moral reasoning did not differ from the Valar's otherwise.

You see the conundrum?

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Well, I suppose if I started from this perspective I might have actually asked a Vala instead of quietly assuming they were morons...

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Except if you ask them they'll fix you.

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In that respect I could not have started without my moral reasoning differing from the Valar's otherwise.

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They don't do it involuntarily, but certainly they wouldn't entertain the question in confidence with no implications for your life, and they'd have tried to persuade you, and they're - not persuasive, exactly, but distracting to be in the presence of when disagreeing with them. I didn't have the nerve to go ask.

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Being unwilling to keep a confidence is also a problem, I'm not sure this 'cannot characterize anything they did as a mistake in retrospect' thing is an accurate summary...

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Oh, now I think they're disgustingly incompetent and also care about things that are distinct from right and wrong. But at the time they seemed like - aliens, who were bad at us but learning as quickly as they could, and who shared our values if not our needs or motives or styles of thinking. They wouldn't keep a confidence because they didn't know how.

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I am now imagining an earnest young Elf version of myself attempting to explain incarnate needs and mindsets and ethics to Valar. It is disquieting.

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Awww. Anyway, what happened was that I decided that perfect virtue was not a realistic aspiration and that this was an area with an ugly cost/benefit and I was going to be selfish. And then I had some relationships and noticed that I really did not seem to be devaluing or using anybody, and that in fact the least complicated answer was that the Valar'd been wrong.

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Good.

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I don't think I am at all the same person I'd be without the assumptions, so 'grew past it' is a bit generous, but I was sure enough of what I wanted to go and get it, so it worked.

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What do you think you'd've been like if you were from my world or something?

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Hmm. That also requires adjusting for being human - I think Maitimo and I wouldn't have the failure mode where he is too absorbed in something important and uses me more carelessly than is typical and I feel toyed with. I think we'd both have - less of a background assumption that sex is usually a power game which we're currently not treating as one, or a currency for relationship disagreements - 

- these are tendencies we keep in check and have a healthy relationship despite, don't mistake me. But being unendorsed doesn't make them go away, and they're certainly present.

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He said once that he'd probably have no more interest in sex than any other social activity if there weren't power dynamics he associated with it.

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Well, he has a fetish, doesn't he. I would certainly not feel that way, but - well, I don't seem to have your capacity for saying 'this is a power thing for Maitimo and the rest of our society but it's not one to me'. If it is to them, it is to me, and that's fine but in a different society I think our dynamic would be quite different.

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I'm getting some serious mileage out of that capacity. I'm pretty much devoid of native fetishes but if I were going to have to be in something I interpreted as a power dynamic and pick a half of it, me and Maitimo wouldn't work out nearly so well. Fortunately we have enough difference in background that he can cut my hair for me and I can laugh at the look on his face.

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He's cutting your hair for you? Awww.

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I can't see the back of my head.

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Right. I didn't think about how much maintenance that style'd require.

 

When Maitimo was in his stage of adorable sexual frustration over you I said to him once that I would not cut my hair and he made the funniest noise.

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Awww.

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The emissary goes to Doriath. Kib gets the transcripts. It's beautiful. They are paranoid. The Maia Queen does not try anything. Her husband is vaguely suspicious of the Noldor, deeply grieved by Finwe's death, disinclined to participate in any offensives.

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Well, can they have productive trade arrangements, servants for - what do they even have in Doriath?

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They do a lot of dancing and singing and running through the trees. They'll take servants for defense. Maitimo asks if Kib'll be able to countermand those if he ends up not liking how they're being used.

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Pets and golems yes, although the pets he'd have to countermand in person or through another person designated to the pet by Kib in advance, and the golems he can do through more of the same make using the same trick the storks have to communicate with each other. He can puppet-ify a shine and override its program, but only if he can catch it, and those suckers can go real fast. Automata, no.

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"Then I think we offer them golems. The Dwarves I'd be happy to offer more than that."

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"Because they're offering a better deal or sound like nicer people?"

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"Both, do you disagree?"

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"Not a bit; they sound lovely and could build a lot of their own chassis - possibly to the point where we should consider if it's worth risking me taking a trip instead of having to ship the things."

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"If Doriath'll let you in. Or they'll tell us where their kingdom is and we can justify a trip all the way there, I guess."

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"It's probably not worth it, it's just not obviously not worth it."

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"I have some scouts headed farther east anyway, it's at least worth a look."

 

A week later the Enemy sends orcs to extend his offer of parley.

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How are these orcs distinguished from regular orcs such that they can even get close enough to suggest it?

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"Oh, we shot them, but they had a letter on them."

 

Nelyafinwe, King of the Noldor (congratulations!):

We understand your motive in undertaking this war to be protecting Endore's civilians from us. We bear them no particular animosity and much desire not to be at war with you; our grievance is with the Valar. We offer you the return of the human children in our custody and a year to evacuate the continent. You swear not to war against us again except should we act against you. Please name a location to discuss terms.

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Do we even know for sure exactly how many human children we'd be expecting?

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Nope. He could swear to it but that'd require somehow meeting face to face and being sure there weren't illusions going on.

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Do we have a way to generate comparable illusions, see if golems see them? Does Tyelcormo know if animals do? Might be able to rig something up with shines for visual ones but not auditory...

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Illusions shouldn't be complete enough they'd also fool, say, a bat, I'll ask Tyelcormo. Macalaure can do illusions, do you have seeing golems handy? 

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Most of the models we've been churning out can see. He can make it look like something's attacking me and we can see if my war golem bites it.

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All right. I'm not sure we take this even if we can verify it - he's got some reason he thinks it's a good idea for him...

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Yeah. But if we can't verify it, doesn't even bear thinking about.

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Yep. I'll get Macalaure to try to scare some golems. 

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Turns out the golems are unimpressed.

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So then can we send some to hear an oath, and confirm for us whether it was spoken exactly as requested?

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I wish I had the talking one made already. I should speed up on that. Should be able to make a modified courier design that can do that limited task, though.

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Then I think I'll send a letter back with the next orcs saying we'll take a ceasefire while we decide on the oaths we'd want for a parley. 

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Golems can only verify identities of people they've been introduced to. They could have a random orc recite the oath and then kill them, wouldn't be able to tell the difference, not with a courier that can't talk.

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Well, that's inconvenient. Have anything that met Melkor back in Valinor?

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Some of the birds. I'm not immediately sure how to coordinate a courier and a bird so we can get an identity check and an oath check verifiably lined up but it can probably be done.

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I can instruct them in the letter not to kill the bird if they sincerely want a parley.

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I can't verify a bird's identity if some shapeshifter wants to pretend to be one of my birds, can Tyelcormo?

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Yeah, definitely. 

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Okay. Probably doable. In the unlikely event this is all in something vaguely resembling short-term good faith it's worthwhile, I assume, he can't do extra-nefarious things with a less inhabited continent or something like that?

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I mean, presumably he can build his orcs back up uncontested, and then, I don't know what he wants after that, invade Valinor? Invade us again once he has a better chance - but I think our capabilities develop faster than his, maybe he's counting on our inability to keep you and Lári and Aydanci alive?

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Does he even know we have Aydanci?

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Probably not, come to think of it. He's offering the kids, though, so he knows we'll have servant-makers - unless he sends them back horribly traumatized, that's a thing he might do - and waiting us out for ten Years until all of you are dead if my father hasn't figured it out might seem worthwhile to him - he may already have golems and be expecting without us he'll be able to do more with them...

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Yeah, I wasn't necessarily expecting the kids in good condition.

Is evacuation going to be unanticipatedly difficult in some way? A 'no way am I leaving my homeland' sort of deal, people who the Enemy has sowed enough mistrust against us with that even with a year we can't talk them into trusting us, where would we evac to?

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There are a couple more continents. Dunno what to expect from Doriath but I'm inclined to call that their lookout, doubt the Dwarves would consider evacuation worthwhile when he hasn't yet demonstrated the capabilities to get to them anyway, anyone else I am willing to bet I can persuade to trust me inside a year.

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There is one of you. Populations could be very scattered.

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It's also not obvious he'll contest an evacuation of the continent if we do it without having secured permission.

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Yeah, good point. Though an evacuation compromises the defensive posture some.

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I considered and discarded the possibility because I don't think I can defend a civilian city on another continent and still project enough force here to keep him hemmed up in Angband.

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I suppose some of the strategic situation depends on how good we think he and his can possibly be at programming. If he has indestructible generic-purpose speaking golems already, if he has lots, he can adapt to pretty any situation requiring golems as long as they don't have to be mountains or something; if he's got a more standard level of sophistication going on he's offering to lose the capacity to flex like that. Unless he just thinks he can recapture and use some humans.

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Might release them to us with instructions to come back to him, though I am pretty sure I could prevent even a talented servantmaker from leaving my custody at need...

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If you don't give them materials, definitely. And they can't have sworn, small mercies.

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Yeah. It's not particularly likely he happened to smuggle in a genius, not picking around forty babies at random, and I doubt he's one himself or we'd have noticed already...

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Unless he's been working on a secret project and only just woke it.

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In which case are we worse off if we agree to a ceasefire?

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Depends what it does, but probably not.

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The new species supposed to awaken. Maybe they wake here, and that's why he wants us elsewhere.

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...plausible.

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We can get him to swear on some of these things, but - not all of them. He has more information, we're running blind...

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We'd need some kind of advantage more sneaky than "surprise, we can verify oaths, which you could have figured out if you cared to check" to expect good results.

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Yep. Do let me know if you think of anything. I'm going to run this by some other people.

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Will do. I'll work on the oath-verifying courier anyway, could be useful for other situations.

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Thanks.

 

 

He runs it by some other people. None of them can think of an informational advantage that would make it worth trying to cut a deal with the Enemy.

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Is it worth trying to slip him some slightly awkward oath wording we could leverage later, and then just not show up? If he really wants us to talk...

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I don't think we have anything to lose by it. See if we can get him to promise not to further harm the children until we've parleyed?

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Ooh, I like it.

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So they send a golem, and a bird, and a carefully-worded oath. The golem comes back.

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That's not the same bird.

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Course not. It'll have to pretend to do what I say if it wants to convince anybody, though, I can tell it to hang back and we can decide what to do with it?

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Yeah.

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"Wait on that ridge," Cam calls to the bird, pointing. So it's some kind of Maia, or an actual bird that one of the kids petted for him, can you tell which?

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Sure, by talking to it. But that kinda gives the game away.

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If it's an actual bird you can just shoot it. If it's a Maia we have a problem. What do we do if it's a Maia, what would one of those be here for?

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Uh, if I were the Enemy, kill you. 

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That or a spying campaign of some kind. Or both! Or just pretend to have verified the identity of whoever swore to corroborate the courier and draw us out into more extended negotiations! How do we kill a Maia.

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If we knew that we'd be having another run at Angband instead of talking with them. Huan can give it an even fight and not even that if he's trying to protect nearby civilians and it isn't.

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It might be pretending hard enough to go off somewhere remote if I tell it to, but having it duel Huan seems risky. Would the war golems be any help to him?

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They couldn't even scratch Thauron but most Maiar aren't Thauron. If you tell it something that makes it think its cover's blown it might attack. On the other hand, we haven't been shooting down random birds that get near camp, there's got to be a reason he didn't just send a bunch of valaraukar in in bird form - unless he did -

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It occurred to me this morning that I should have sent extra birds and that just in case Melkor was actually there they'd know him afterwards, but I suppose at least this way he was limited in his smuggling opportunities.

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Yeah, I don't fancy fighting dozens of valaraukar again. Is it possible a Maia wouldn't know exactly how a pet behaves, and there's some play you could make to distinguish them....

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Gotta assume he's got all the books he wanted on servantmaking.

- On reflection this can't be a real pet because how would it have been introduced to me.

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Well. There we go. Don't let it anywhere near you - he sends an image of what it'll turn into - you'll be dead and we don't have a way to go fetch you from the human world this time.

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If reincarnation even works that reliably. Still don't know why me, why us, it can't be everybody's just very quiet about it - should I tell it to go somewhere else -?

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Tell it to go get itself a treat or something, hopefully that'll confuse it into playing along a little longer while we get some more warservants up here and come up with an excuse to send it clear...

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"Go get yourself a drink and some bugs," Kib tells the bird.

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Bird flies off. 

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Warservants are collected. Kib stays quite close to his, but doesn't want to give the game away by surrounding himself with extras.

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The area is quietly evacuated of non-warservants.

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Where should I tell it to go?

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I'm expecting that when it realizes it's caught out it has orders to kill someone. Or as many people as it can but probably starting with someone in particular.

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I go hide underground, golems just attack it without warning? Or have someone else tell it to do something and oblige it to assume they're a secondary for the bird it's impersonating?

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Maybe the latter. I want you well clear of this.

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Going.

He goes.

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And he has Tyelcormo call the bird over, and the bird hesitates and then goes, and they open fire from the rooftops and then it's a valarauka. Of course. 

 

 

They aren't short of war golems, though on a lucky hit a valarauka can disable one, and they do not know how to kill the things but they know how to hit them very hard, and after a few hours it goes invisible - not that that stops the war golems from attacking it - and then they stop.

Only a moderate-sized section of the city has been reduced to rubble. The ground is still smoking.

It turned invisible and ran, don't know where it ran..

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Home? Off to terrorize somebody else to teach us a lesson? Someplace inaccessible to wait around and heal up?

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Those seem like the candidates.  I hope Feanáro gets somewhere on immortality soon so we can let him loose on killing the damned things.

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You and me both.

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A month later their scouts from the east bring startling news. A new species has, indeed, awakened. They're by all appearances humans.

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Well that's weird.

Can they servantmake.

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No servantmaking was observed, but they might not have independently discovered it in their first months as a species. Send them some dogs, see if they pet them, or show up more directly and try to teach them? Or take them all into Noldorin custody, Maitimo's tempted by this, there's a couple thousand and they're totally defenseless.

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Try teaching them to make shines; osanwë it like so, it's like this. If they can, definitely take them into custody, if they can't, they can afford to, like, ask nicely. Petting dogs is not intuitive enough that people unexposed the concept are going to do it by accident.

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A couple days' delay. The newcomers have learned how to make shines, and their camp is now thoroughly decorated with them. 

 

They can still probably afford to ask nicely but they can hardly afford to accept a 'no'. The King is inclined to ride out with thirty thousand people, leave most of them back, attempt to convince the humans to come voluntarily, and then have a lovely forced march at wargolem-point if he can't. He's pretty sure he can. Any ideas on how, though?

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What are they like, culturally speaking, humans vary... what kind of bribery do we have handy...

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Food, magic songs, shelter, horses, magic jewelry, pretty fabrics - they're not like anything culturally, apparently, they are brand new, they have yet to invent fire, just wander around eating the lichens, which I guess are thankfully edible. It's not even clear if they have central organization...

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At a guess food and shelter will be the most appealing things unless they popped into existence thinking long-term enough to want the magic stuff...

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We will bring delicious food and osanwe them lots of comfort and shelter, I've got people at work expanding the city. How fast can I make humans walk, if it comes to that?

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Comfortable is like three miles an hour, if they're in good shape and have plenty of water they can keep that up with breaks and three meals a day for hours, maybe longer after they've developed calluses and stuff. If you push them faster then over a few thousand there'll be stress and wear injuries and stuff and they won't be happy.

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That's not too bad, at that pace we'll have them home in two weeks and can then apologize profusely. And I really expect we can win their agreement.

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You're very persuasive and I bet lichen tastes terrible.

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And it's not even likely they'll be suspicious of us, they don't seem to have invented conflict yet.

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That'll help.

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See you soon. We have osanwe relays set up so we can ask you any questions that arise while we're trying to win them over or escort them back.

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And vice versa. Love you.

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They're gone six days when the news comes.

 

There weren't humans. There was a Maia known for being very, very gifted with illusions. They didn't send the whole host in at once; just the King and a small escort, to try to talk to the humans instead of scaring them. Everyone else had gone in afterwards. It had technically been a victory. It turned out you could kill valaraukar, if you denied them an avenue of escape through the air, and that they exploded with a destructive radius of twenty yards when you did.

 

Maitimo's probably not dead. Didn't find a body, and the Enemy does not seem to have gone to all that effort just to kill him.

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Why didn't he think of that. Why didn't he think of that -

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No one thought of it. A settlement of thousands, they'd scouted it, the shines after the humans 'learned servantmaking' had in fact been real -

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- they tested that by stamping them with programs, they weren't just, illusion shines or something -?

The servants all reacted like there were people there and none of them would have been able to tell the difference if they were orcs under illusion, would they -

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Real shines. In case the Noldor had a way to tell, probably. The servants wouldn't distinguish 'orcs and shapeshifting Maiar' from 'humans', though they would have noticed if there'd been illusory people.

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But how did they pretend to puppet the shines - does this mean there were kids on site -

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Probably. If so they either made it out or were persistently illusioned to look like orcs even in death, they're still picking over the battlefield.

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Kib throws himself at the talking golem. The talking golem that will just be able to fucking tell them what things look like.

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The rest of the host rides back. Who should be King of the Noldor (or, possibly, regent? since the King isn't dead?) is not obvious. There is a lot of singing.

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Kib is not going to generate a strong opinion on the kingship/regency unless someone suggests something obviously idiotic.

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They aren't doing that. Bounce it back to Feanáro, maybe, with the actual job duties divided a few ways, or give it to Feanáro's brother. Non-stupid options, those. 

 

They revise security procedures on the assumption everything Maitimo knows is compromised.

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And Kib has to go around telling every model of golem that Maitimo is not allowed to tell them what to do now - just in case - it's what he'd say to do, isn't it -

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Yeah. It is.

 

Findekáno works shifts much longer than the ones the Noldor found unsustainable at the start of the war.

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Please tell me you're only being dramatic and not dangerous.

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If I am ever suicidally inclined I'll go sneak into Angband, don't worry.

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That's not really an improvement.

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He wouldn't want -

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- a suicide mission? No, I wouldn't think so.

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So I won't go until I think of a way to get us out.

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Let me know if I can help with something non-suicidal there.

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If you have a way of getting the layout - really small mapping automata or something -

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Even with the goggles there's a limit to how small I can write, I couldn't likely get anything useful smaller than a shrew, doubt it'd go unnoticed... shades maybe, though, it'd be tedious as fuck but they could do it -

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Can you hand over some of the tedious work to someone whose time we need less desperately?

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Yeah, it'd mostly be programming and then watching the shades when they came back. 'Course, if the Enemy figures out what the shades are doing or just suspects he wouldn't like it he can have the kids co-opt them - and now that this idea has occurred to me we need to write tiny stopping instructions all around our perimeter so he can't send shines or shades at us -

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Right. That first.

 

 

 

 

It honestly might be worth doing even without a way to get him out.

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Mercy kill?

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We've found escaped or released prisoners. Most of them want to die, the ones who don't want to die it's because they don't believe they're really talking to you....Mandos will not send our Maitimo back to us but he'll send the Noldor back their King, and the less damage he has to undo first...

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This would be a much easier question with a higher quality god of death. But yeah, I follow the logic.

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Let's set up a perimeter and then see if we can get anywhere by spying with shades.

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Yeah.

Kib delegates the perimeter; it just needs to be really tiny writing to keep out even really tiny intruders, total program cancellation, anything sent in will just accumulate cleared of instructions at the border and they can reuse it themselves if they want. He outlines parameters for telling shades to trace the shapes of Angband and then turn around and come home and repeat the dance in the confines of a box drawn on the floor; go as far as they can within the box, scoot around on the edge to the far side, draw another box's worth. They'll have to be bridged over the program cancellation border or the box will have to be outside of it.

He makes shades.

And he goes back to his talking golem.

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Lári is now a toddler. With aggressive coaching from Feanáro she can make shines. It's a good harvest and the Noldor can afford to export food to everyone else in the region. Some of the locals are interested in living behind their walls. They trade Doriath golems and the Dwarves everything they know. 

 

They have a map of Angband. 

Findekáno gradually relents on working himself half to death. 

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You shouldn't trust this map too far. If he has good intel and noticed the shades he could have spoofed it.

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Yeah, understood. 


The harder question is whether to trust what Maitimo says, when I'm in osanwe-range of him.

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Don't know what to tell you there.

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He stares blankly at the wall.

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Yep.

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Are you going to be okay if I don't come back?

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Define okay.

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Does that need to be a consideration in planning my operation to rescue and or murder my boyfriend and my King without wrecking everything he'd want me fighting for.

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I'll function.

Aydanci'll grow up eventually, I can't go completely to pieces, I don't even want to go to pieces on reflection so I won't.

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He pulls him closer. Okay. 

Aydanci won't even take eventually, he's already walking and talking. Maitimo used to get updates on that and now they go through me.

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Pretty eventual from a human perspective, but yeah. Dream ordering's more of a crapshoot.

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If we both come back from Mandos I'm not sure how much he'll let us remember. I'd appreciate it if you told us, if it's not very much.

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Of course.

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He waits another two years. That's how long it takes for the pterodactyls to grow big enough to fly.

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This pterodactyl is to do whatever Findekáno says unless he's captured.

In which case it is to do its best to kill him and Maitimo and any other Elves it can find in there instead.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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For what, exactly, seducing you into this whole tragic mess instead of letting you go home to find your Aydanci and grow old with him?

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Because growing old's such a picnic and we could certainly rely on reincarnating for mysterious reasons indefinitely. No, for helping Maitimo, whichever way.

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Love you. Be okay.

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Love you too. Be not-captured.

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He has acquired a lot of ways to commit suicide and has them appropriately convenient. I won't.

 

 

He does not tell anyone else.

 

He flies off. 

 

 

He's so far above Angband that the air's nearly too thin to breathe when he reaches for Maitimo.

 

Can you hear me?

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Yes, the voice replies dully. There's around fifty Balrogs, there's around a hundred thousand orcs left, there's space for a lot more and he's trying to get the population back, my estimates assume the population mixes in a way they might not do, I haven't seen the kids but I'm pretty sure they're in the south wing, built in under the mountain, and I tried talking to them, at first, and they seem tolerably treated but not likely to be loyal to him if they were presented with a way out. Here's everything I have on the layout. 

 

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It matches.

 

That's a little too easy. And that is Maitimo, can't spoof osanwe while he's still free, but -

...okay. Where are you, how do I get you out.

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Turn around and go home. That's an order.

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I am obviously not taking orders from you under the circumstances. Now that I know this works I might try to plan some more before I try, though -

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He'll learn from me that you did it and it won't be safe to do again.

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Are you under any oaths -

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No. 

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But it's not as if he'd say it. So you, what, just had that prepared to say in case anyone came in range?

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This is the third one of these.

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Of what?

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Hallucinations in which you rescue me. 

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On the off chance that it's real, are you going to be cooperative with this rescue hallucination? Give me accurate information, do what I tell you -

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I assure you I'm in no condition to resist you.

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Then tell me where you are.

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He shows him. 

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And he swings the pterodactyl around and sees him.

 

The hard part was the waiting; this part is hardly difficult at all. He swoops down and has a try at the shackle and determines it enchanted by a Vala and cuts off Maitimo's hand, instead, and then sings for altitude, altitude, because this thing is not meant to fly with two, and ties off Maitimo's severed wrist with one hand and keeps a knife at his throat with the other - because he can't be sure, not yet - 

don't move, okay? I love you and don't move -

- and he flies home.

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Well, hopefully he will osanwë Kib with this development as soon as he is in range.

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Alive, got him, he's lucid, it was almost too easy, he's in pretty bad shape and I had to make it worse - his voice is shaking, even over osanwe - but he'll live, we're coming back, he confirmed the layout of Angband we had but that doesn't necessarily mean it's true...

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- almost too easy? Do you need me to send something out to check, I can have a bird meet you -

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It's definitely him, osanwe shouldn't work otherwise. A bird couldn't verify if he's under enemy mind-control.

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I could send something to see if you were invisibly followed.

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Go ahead.

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And a courier-style chassis with all the cheating-with-servants upgrades flies out to look around -

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And sees the two of them, on a pterodactyl, flying home.

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It comes back.

Just the two of you.

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Okay. Can you tell people to expect us - we need healers -

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Yeah. Anyone in particular, or just - this happened, everyone be prepared -?

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The latter. I'll explain myself to people individually later - 

- Maitimo, Kib's helping me - want to say hi to Kib -

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He flinches, slightly. Hi, Kib, he says obediently.

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Hi.

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He positions himself a little better. He can stop singing for altitude now that they can glide back home. Makes a probably-futile attempt at making Maitimo more comfortable. We've got healers on the ground. If there's anything you want me to do - 

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I'm all right, he lies instantly.

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...great. I love you. I'm sorry. I love you. 

And home.

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Kib has told everyone the gist of the story by the time the pterodactyl lands.

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Then they will just surround Maitimo with healers, and with golems behind the healers to stop him if he does anything -

I am assuming it'll be awful for him if we tie him down - 

And there are people around but he kind of could use a hug. He settles for a hand on Kib's shoulder.

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Kib leans into the hand subtly as he can. Shouldn't be necessary, he's not stronger than a golem...

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I never really imagined that would be the easy part. Did - did you hear, when I said 'say hello to Kib' - the tone of his voice -

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It did not escape me.

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He watches silently. Maitimo's in bad shape. It's not that he'd imagined better but he'd been trying not to imagine it. Maitimo holds very still when the healers tell him to.

If they somehow got him to swear to something -

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Is there any way to find out short of asking him to swear that they didn't?

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Nope. And even that would only prove that he doesn't remember it.

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If he doesn't remember it, but then he is reminded, is it in force? Like, could he distinguish between real and fictitious reminders-of-oaths to the point where that would work?

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I think so, yeah. When an oath is acting on you you know it, you feel it, and I expect being reminded of one that's still in force would feel like something...

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So we keep a golem attending him, I guess, but we don't have to lock him up or anything.

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But we can't let him do anything, either. Which will be a problem if he decides he wants to be doing things, if he's up and healthy and acting normally people will listen to him - 

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If he's acting normally he will follow the arguments for why he should not do anything sensitive. Maybe he'll have a brilliant idea.

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Yeah. He is not acting normally. Might be the shock.

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Would people's fealty oaths be an issue, here, do you all need to renounce your citizenships for a minute and then have Fëanáro wave you all back in?

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He tried to give me orders when I was flying over, didn't feel the force of it. I would not expect us to be stuck following orders that might be coerced, though I suppose we could do it anyway to be safest...

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What was he trying to order you to do?

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Go away and be safe. 

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Suppose that makes it moderately less likely he's a plant, but...

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Well, even if I were still stuck obeying him, I would have been able to disobey an order like 'tell the Enemy you're here'. But he could have easily told the Enemy I was there. 

 

 

He said this was the third time he'd hallucinated being rescued.

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Well, fuck.

Maybe the Enemy is a really, really bad actor. Except when he's, say, playing a settlement of a few thousand humans, or something...

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They all moved separately, they were visibly distinct, no two looked alike - the Enemy can't be smart, or he should have won already, but with what he does do, he's very very good.

 

 

And in Valinor he didn't strike me as a bad actor.

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I was giving him some benefit of the doubt, but yeah, not bad.

Doesn't know me as well as anybody else here though.

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No. And Maitimo knows you very very well. It's - probably worth a try, in a couple days, once the healers - 

 

- it'd be so conspicuous for me to go be at his side but I want to, very badly -

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I've got the excuse that I need to set him a golem.

I'll get him one with hands, so - so.

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I did that. There wasn't a way to get the shackle off.

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That was my guess. Golem can double as a spare pair of hands. Maybe there's a way to rig up a prosthetic or something.

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Yeah. 


I cut off his hand and then carried him back with a knife at his throat, it might not require any Enemy action at all for him to have - reacted the way he did - 

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Macalaure sits at his side and does not stop singing. They've had the chance to develop and learn from the locals, better healing spells, and it's only a few days before he's well enough for visitors. Too thin, badly scarred, but well enough for visitors.

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Kib brings him a golem. One with hands.

"Hi."

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His expression twists with faint humor. "Hi."

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So it occurred to me that the Enemy didn't know me that well and might find me relatively harder to impersonate than most people, then it occurred to me that all I'd said so far was 'hi' and a mynah bird could impersonate that, except the reason I haven't said much is I don't know what the fuck one says in this situation, so my compromise is probably going to be incredibly awkward rambling at you until I have some cue to do otherwise, meanwhile I brought you a golem, it is obviously here to make sure you do not suddenly turn out to be compromised and start strangling people with your considerable current ability to strangle people but it will also do most things you tell it to.

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I think the Enemy got the chance to look through my memories at his leisure, since he was certainly thorough in tampering with them. I don't think he'd have too much particular difficulty with you. I appreciate the thought, though, and the golem. 

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...well, you're welcome. Insert self-aggrandizing crack about how inimitable I am that I could probably compose very wittily if I were less upset. Does this imply that some subset of people should be told anything it might amuse the Enemy to holler at us over the walls.

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You two should figure that out, I am not up on politics and perhaps shouldn't be caught up on politics. It's at least worth figuring out the spin that protects Findekáno politically, he'll know what that is.

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Okay. I assume it's something reprehensibly sideways but I will not choose this occasion to rant about that.

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Weak smile. The Enemy was very fond of looking like you. Like both of you. I could train myself not to flinch, if it'll make you sad, but I'm not sure I should bother.

 

The first time I believed it was real and got my head all back in order and then it was so much worse, afterwards.

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You are deeply miscalibrated about what things make me sad if that was a serious proposal, even if you think that little of my priorities it's not like I couldn't just go to Findekáno while I'm waiting for Aydanci - no amount of being physically eighteen for a very long time would -

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Ah.


Kib turns to the golem. "Don't let anybody touch him - or get within a foot - he may countermand or reinstate that case by case -" Kib swallows. "And if it's me break my jaw first."

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"Unless my memories are much tampered with you can countermand that any time you'd like."

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"I'd have to do it out loud, though, you'd hear me coming."

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"It's really not the most pressing problem, I only mention it in case you'd wonder why I wasn't looking at you. If you reacted out-of-character enough that I noticed it as such they'd erase the memory and do the encounter again, of course you were going to say something plausible."

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"Well. It is now the case within the internal logic of the scenario that you would hear me coming. I don't know if it helps, I don't know if anything helps, I assume explaining what things might help or not-help would feel like handing ammunition to someone standing over you with a crossbow."

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"Little bit. I can do it anyway, for anything plausibly important in the unlikely scenario this is real and not useful to the Enemy in the much more plausible case where it's another game."

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"Don't currently have anything pressing enough to justify bothering you further." Kib gets up. I love you.

And out he goes.

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How's he doing?

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And Kib relates the conversation as best he can remember.

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Fuck.

 

 

You know, I'd just been carefully not thinking in any more detail than 'tortured' - 

 

 

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No such luck.

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What do you think the Enemy wanted - 

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I don't know.

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I need to think about politics but if I do that now I think I'll stab something. Going to - go for a walk, first.

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I'm going to mindlessly churn out shines, we can always use more shines, right.

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Yeah -

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Kib goes and makes shines until Findekáno can explain the cover story if the Enemy decides it would be entertaining to tell everyone that Maitimo has boyfriends.

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Findekáno doesn't explain that, when he comes back, just collapses onto the nearest piece of furniture and watches Kib with a wretched expression on his face.

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I've been wishing I had a way to look like Aly. Doubt she came up in the hallucinations. I even turn my head without thinking if someone says her name, Aydanci did it a couple times.

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We can write him letters or something. 

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Yeah.

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Thought about the politics until I felt sick, didn't get anywhere. We can just hope the Enemy doesn't have any way to reliably swear to things even if he's trying to instead of trying to trick us...

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We can do that - presumably he could have come and outed Maitimo before we had him actually on hand - but...

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I know.

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Maitimo said you'd know what the way to save your reputation was, is it just really unpalatable...?

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Yup.

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Scale of one to twelve how much will I hate it.

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I mean, the candidates are pretty much 'I blackmailed him', 'he ended up indebted to me and this is how it amused me to call it in', or 'I thought it was beneath the dignity of the house of Finwe for him to let anyone else fuck him'. And then, for you, 'we needed Kib for the war, and his husband'd just died, so I thought I'd offer him something for his time'.

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If we're assuming here the Enemy's swearing to things he can just be really specific, Kib points out, about when relative to any of this my husband died, about how you got together - Maitimo seems to think he has pretty comprehensive memory-reading -

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In which case there is not much we can do, the actual situation is totally irretrievable. You can see why I'm inclined not to try at all.

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Yep.

If we would have to rely on nonspecificity anyway I don't suppose we can go with "humans are weird exceptions to things, I seduced the both of you with my human wiles, and before that you were model citizens"?

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No, see, the problem is that being seduced is much much worse, by sideways logic.

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Ah, of course, my mistake. Is there some way to blame it all on me and humans being weird, though, people are tolerating a certain amount of humans being weird...

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With your husband who the Valar declared you married to. And 'Maitimo seduced you because you were useful' is at least less horribly coercive and doesn't damage him much, but doesn't cover us...

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Ugh.

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You can see why I wanted to stab things! We had a plan for this but it protected Maitimo rather than me.

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Oh, was it blackmail, debt, or the dignity of the house of Finwë?

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Hmm? No, he could just get away with 'I wanted him, so I took him', and people'd believe that, they won't believe it the other way around. And if he implied carefully enough that it wasn't as if I could have refused an order like that then I'd have - more latitude than usual under those circumstances, my family probably wouldn't disown me - but again, can't credibly make the counterclaim and the thought of it makes me sick anyway.

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Aren't you glad you didn't meet us after circumstances had forced our hand like that, you'd have justifiably wanted nothing to do with either of us.

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If I'd thought you were the victim I would've talked to you.

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A pained, exhausted sort of sigh.  And then a weak laugh. 

I am imagining Maitimo hopelessly crushing on you under those circumstances and - he was morose and dramatic enough about how hopeless it was when there were literally no barriers other than his own inhibitions -

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Well, once you concluded that I was, like, a sane person, you could have convinced me that it was a story.

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He pulls him closer. Sometimes I very much regret dragging you into our sideways world at all. Not that I know how I'd cope without you. 

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Kib faceplants into Findekáno's shoulder. I love you.

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I love you. Thank you for - trying, to reassure him -

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Didn't work.

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Not sure he'd tell you. And it means he doesn't have to explain it to anyone else, that's something...

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Suppose there's that.

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I am assuming that it's a conversation he'd rather not have more than once, and he chose to have it with the person who gave him the golem. So.

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Yeah.

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If I hadn't waited so long - if I'd gone right away -

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We don't actually have a timeline for when any of this happened; maybe the fake rescues are the first thing. Don't know when he was moved someplace pterodactyl-accessible and you wouldn't have had a pterodactyl before.

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I could have gone in on foot. Wouldn't have gotten out, but.

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You might not even have gotten to him.

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I know. And - obviously better to do it late, and right, and maybe this is better than Mandos, hard to say - or maybe I was just selfishly trying to keep him out of Mandos - we could probably have torched Angband and hoped it killed most of the non-Maiar in there....

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Personally I don't think my desire to keep him from being yet further mind-controlled is particularly selfish of me. It remains totally intact if I assume he will never want to tell his golem to let anyone approach him again.

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...yeah. Same. 

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We are going to fucking kill him.

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That'll probably solve any oaths he might be under, too - not definitely, but probably...

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Would it?

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Oaths to obey someone snap when they die. If he's sworn things like to pursue the goals of the Enemy known to him at the moment he so swore, no - but I can't imagine he would have, unless the Enemy has actual mind-control - though I suppose the ability to erase all of someone's memories might functionally qualify, if you could make them forget oaths were binding....

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I don't know what to assume he remembers, or what he has consistently remembered.

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Seems like that might be something worth asking, since it's not as if if we were characters in a hallucination we wouldn't already know.

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Maybe. I'm inclined to batch things unless they're urgent, though. And he won't be able to answer the 'consistently remembered' part. He could forget forgetting.

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Agreed. I can't think of anything that'd be urgent. We were already assuming the worst on the information security front.

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Humans don't have the thing about being imprisoned but we have a thing about isolated. I don't want to - hassle him - but is it in fact safe to leave him alone for really extended periods of time, he's not even introverted -

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He won't die of it but it'd probably be very psychologically unhealthy, yeah. I suppose we ask, except I'm guessing he's going to be reluctant to tell the Enemy answers to 'what will make you happiest' -

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First instinct is to have Lári visit him - I can't imagine she wouldn't have featured unpleasantly too like, oh, literally everyone else he knows, but the Enemy may not know what she looks like at this age, that might help - kind of a lot to put on a little kid though.

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I get the sense he'll act perfectly normal if he thinks that's what's helpful. Sure the golem could stop him in time if -

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It is faster than him, and it will stop her before she gets close enough to try to climb in his lap or anything. Assuming he doesn't tell it to let her; I can tighten that up.

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Probably.

 

I would just rather be paranoid than have another 'we knew the Enemy could do illusions' moment -

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Yep.

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I don't really know if interacting with a small child will meet his social needs but it's almost certainly better than nothing at all.

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Inconveniently this particular small child is an obvious target if he's rigged to attack. I'd trust the golem but she might still be freaked out...

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We could find some Elven small children. 

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Don't have the convenient 'don't look the same as they did two years ago' feature.

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Yeah. 

 

Well, he should now feel safe around everyone but you, right?

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Even without breaking the scenario logic, no, not necessarily.

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I'm not sure I follow.

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Shrug. Somebody breaks the golem. Somebody coerces him somehow into telling it to let them closer. Someone does something he would not want to witness and doesn't have to touch him at all. Even if this hasn't happened exactly this way to him before he's got a good enough imagination.

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Okay. 

 

I suppose he did not exactly volunteer what would convince him this one was real...

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Of course not.

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We've got some Mithrim Sindar who've joined since he - since he left -

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That might be better.

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I don't suppose there's any safe way to ask them if I can borrow their eyes while they do -

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All the golem-related excuses I can come up with seem really flimsy too.

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I just want to see him. I am not going to do it if it hurts him but it will tear me apart if our last interaction in person is - was - the rescue - I was entirely focused on getting back safely with him, I couldn't consider his feelings at all or I'd have fallen apart entirely -

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Kib squeezes him.

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He was lucid and so - patient with me, I don't know if it would have made things better or worse if I'd tried to say anything - 

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I don't know either. I should've let you borrow my eyes, I wasn't thinking.

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And I was thinking I'd get my turn. Don't worry about it. He squeezes him. Surely someday eventually he'll decide it couldn't be worth it for the Enemy to drag a hallucination out that long - they don't have to happen in real time, but still -

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Might be a long wait.

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If it takes a thousand years at least - at least eventually - we had a good thousand years, we'll have a bad thousand years, then we'll have eternity - it must seem absurd to you but I can bear that.

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If you say so.

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I have a more acute sense of what never would mean. If he will never be happy then that is hard to live with. If it will merely be an unthinkable length of time -

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Squeeze. Sigh.

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Physically, he gets better. He relearns walking. He grows his hair back out. He is charming and humbled and so happy to be safe, he feels truly blessed by his cousin's courage. He would like someone to teach him how to wield a sword with his left hand, is Findekáno available?

Findekáno is surprised. Of course he is available. 

They practice that.

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Kib is not sure whether this is Maitimo anticipating Findekáno's needs and not waiting to be asked or what but - good, okay.

(The golem watches, ready to catch a stray blade.)

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The next time Maitimo runs into Kib is in the hallway a few weeks later. He smiles at him, effortlessly, exactly as if he is back in Tirion. "Do you have plans for dinner tonight? I wanted to hear about progress on your projects."

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Kib blinks.

"No, no plans."

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"Can I snatch you away? Curufinwe was trying to give me a summary of what you've been up to but he's been busy enough with his own things that I felt very guilty about insisting he stay up on yours as well just for my sake."

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"Yeah, sure. - if you don't want me to just send you a copy of my work notes."

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"If that's easier."

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"Either's fine by me."

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"Then take a break with me? It won't even lose you very much time, I assume you eat dinner anyway."

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"Every day, even."

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He's become a vegetarian. He hasn't explained to the cooks why. Kib can tolerate it for one night, or ask about it and get a truthful answer if he really wants one. If he doesn't he'll get the answer everyone else gets, which is that it's hard to cook meat with one hand. 

How are you doing?

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Holding up. Might have the talking golem in three, four years. No comment on the vegetarianism. He's trying not to guess.

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Have you all figured out what I shouldn't see, given your state of information, or do I need to be doing that myself, because not learning about what's going on is really difficult. 

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There's some things on the list but I'm not confident it's exhaustive. Substantial servant programming, anything to do with relations with neighbor states... If you have a clever idea for ways to establish an upper bound on how subverted you could be I'm all ears.

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Regrettably I'd think I could potentially be very carefully externally directed, as long as they can have someone within osanwe range. Or no orders at all but changed motives, can't see how you'd check for that. It might be that the amount I should know is 'nothing', and I'll figure out how to occupy my time if that's so. 

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This golem's not smart enough to play cards. Talking one might be.

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Or if someone can figure out how to demonstrate that an item is enchanted to do what it's supposed to be enchanted to do, I can do that, it's time-intensive and nothing new. Anyway, I can offer to self-police on that but you'd be exceptionally silly to let me and people have been happily telling me things.

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Except as an occasional consultant I'm not heavily involved in infosec stuff, I'm still the best programmer we have and specialize heavily; but I can hash out the concerns with somebody who can sound really credible when issuing instructions.

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Less credible than I can sound while making people feel like those precautions are foolish and unnecessary. It's a problem.

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I can imagine. I'll get it handled.

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He beams at him. Thank you! 

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You're welcome.

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And thank you for the golem. I have it do my hair for me. 

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You're welcome.

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He can't get a smile out of him, though. That's frustrating. No smile and no slip-up, or perhaps one that he's been made to forget about - you sure everything's all right? Last time we spoke I was a mess, I didn't mean to scare you away....

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I would not describe myself as 'scared away'.

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He smiles again. Good.

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But I don't want to overwhelm you and there are any number of reasons not to take invitations to maybe do that at face value, each more horrifying than the last.

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I am faking, obviously. But I think I'd rather spend this hallucination being treated like a person than like a tragic loss who still happens to be walking around, and that means I have to act like one. And if it's real aside from learning too much I - think it's also better to act recovered. If you're worried I've found a way around the golem and are trying to lure you here to murder that's fair enough, but if it's just that your company is harder for me to cope with than the company of arbitrary strangers - well, it is, but a world without even fragile hallucinations of everyone I love turns out to be hard to live in, so I find myself reaching for the fragile hallucinations anyway.

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No, I doubt you've found a way around the golem, Kib sighs. Okay.

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I don't want you to feel obliged to spend time with me. But if you're avoiding it for my sake - turns out being avoided even by a version of you I am nearly certain is a fake is still painful -

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Then I'll stop. I'm sorry.

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I don't want an apology. As I said, I practically chased you out.

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Not what I'd call it, but it's true I did not just randomly decide of my own accord not to interact with you.

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I don't think there's any point in making this unpleasant for myself in advance of the point where it'll get unpleasant, and I apologize for making it unpleasant for you. 

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I do not in the least hold you responsible for that.

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Didn't think so. 

I'm afraid I don't have enough memories to get any farther than that, I don't know what we used to do. Other than.

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We played a lot of Governor.

I have notes, I have notes on everything, if you want more details.

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If you can't think how the Enemy'd use it, then yes, I would. 

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I'd have to redact it anyway, it'd be all in with my personal stuff, not like work notes where I can hand it to a scribe and give the copy to whoever wants it.

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Okay.

 

In that case I will not take any more of your time. I loathe being useless but actively being a burden's much worse.

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Okay.

I love you.

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Do you want a hug?

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Got 'em sourced, thanks.

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He smiles again. Alright, alright, I can take a hint. Good skill. Keep in touch or something.

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I'll get you redacted notes in chunks over the next while.

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Thanks.

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You remember the common okay?

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Think so. Less tampering with procedural knowledge. That was my father's analysis, anyway.

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I'll translate the bits in Harthanic but leave the common alone, then.

 

Kib can't get within a foot of Maitimo to hand him objects, so a courier brings him the first packet of pages the next day.

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He spends half of the day out and about and the rest of it reading.

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It starts [Curation note: these are in chronological order: cute parts are later. Also, in many cases I refer to factual notes like how the Trees and calendar worked which I kept in a tidier form elsewhere but have not included here] and then:

...So I asked for someone who would be better equipped to deal with strange people from far away and I got the I can't spell any of these names, some form of local monarch. Developing the sense that "tall pale and hot" is a theme but at least they have different hair colors, some-form-of-local-monarch's a redhead. There was bowing. It was weird. He congratulated one of them on a baby and I had this really vivid mental image of {margin note: this is not in fact what was going on} people dressing up babies and showing them like they were purebred cats or something, I'm sure there are stranger hobbies but what in the world could they be. I was confused at the some-sort-of-monarch I'm just going to go ahead and mangle the transliteration - Nelyafinwe Maitimo - and he showed me a map and it was completely unrecognizable.

He thought the Valar could send me back to my family {this turned out not to be a weird telepathy glitch!}. Spent a while unable to distinguish generosity from the apparently zero scarcity economy, although I suppose generosity with time is still a meaningful concept. Also turns out they have nonservantmaking magic. And don't have a sun. The fuck. They have trees instead. Shiny ones. Also the magic is very nice, got me running without cracking my skull open, and also nice is his singing voice. Suggested hurdy-gurdy automatons. They do not have hurdy-gurdies. They do not have automata. Or servants at all. He knows a guy who can talk to animals but they're not pets, different thing, checked. Have a bird now. Don't know what kind it is. Not sure what to name it. Fruit? Have shades for sun tree protection now.

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He was really horrified by the appearing babies thing, it was sweet. Tossed solutions around for a while. Vastly disparate populations. Also they're immortal, what, want. He was really surprised I'm eighteen, like I'd almost think he'd been scoping me out before that, but I guess I'm Elf jailbait.

[redacted for length not content: sidenote about animal ecology]

He says he might be tempted to go feed stray cats for centuries. It's too naive and cute help. Produced two iterations of obvious-improvement-ideas.

[More ramble about families]

Explained stork politics thing. Maitimo or whichever name I'm supposed to call him (is it THAT HARD to explain your culture to outsiders, Literally Every Elf I Have Met All Four Of You) picked up big chunks of the common ridiculously fast, I don't know if language learning is a specialty of the species like apparently the singing voices and the being really hot or if they're just so smart they can do that or what, wow, intimidating much. Talked politics basics. Obtained food (yum) and clothes (pants: what a concept) and explained hair (they just all have it long and fancy and touching it is "intimate", how much so unspecified).

[5 paragraphs economics]

[11 paragraphs personal reflection]

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The notes are exactly the sort of things he'd want to remember. He is so happy. It is an unfamiliar experience but not so much so he can't recognize it. He tells Kib so, and isn't sure if Kib believes him, and asks for more when he's not too busy, and tries not to sound desperate for it.

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He can have more! It doesn't take that long to redact them, and then Kib can just put shades over the parts to skip and give them to a scribe and add notes.

Notes Kib makes fun of Maitimo for re-writing a page because it wasn't pretty enough. Notes Kib likes Fëanáro and writes six more redacted paragraphs about families but leaves in one speculating about families in the specific case he's seen, trying to cast Maitimo's interactions with Tyelcormo and Fëanáro both in a more comprehensible light. Notes Kib thinks Maitimo has a weapons-grade smile and should be careful where he aims those teeth. Notes Kib is pleased to have a dark place to sleep. Notes Kib writes a redacted paragraph about Valar and architecture. Notes Kib is going to make a scribe! Notes Kib is so amazed that he had a conversation with an inventor of writing!!! Notes Kib is really charmed by the fact that Maitimo will sing him useful magic songs. [9 paragraphs personal reflection]

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He sort of wishes there were a way to hug him that wouldn't be awful for everyone involved.

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Eventually the notes get to the part where they play Governor. Kib includes the entire game in the packet.

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He reads through it. He wonders idly if the Enemy could have made all this up. Could have gotten a copy somehow, he was after all in Kib's house....

 

...this is distressing and he stops reading.

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Does he want more notes?

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"I think I got the idea, and I think your time is more valuable than you're letting on. But thank you."

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"Okay. Let me know. I do need to task-switch sometimes anyway."

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Faking a smile is startlingly hard. "I hope and imagine you have enough tasks to switch between without me adding to them."

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"If you say so."

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Confronting the fake Kib on whether he stole Kib's notes: a terrible idea. He shouldn't let on that he knows how they're impersonating Kib so convincingly, and if they know he can infer it from the notes then they'll take the memory of the notes. "I say so," he says, as lightly as he can manage.

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"Did they help, far as they went...? I don't know if this is the kind of memory loss where you can have it jogged or not..."

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"Not - jogged, exactly, but knowing that I love someone and not why is unpleasant and it's nice to have the bits fill in.

 

 

 

I'm worried they'll take the memory of the notes away if I get too attached to them, so I'm trying not to do that."

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Oh fuck that's heartbreaking. "Oh."

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"Are you very sure you don't want a hug I am pretty sure the real Kib, if we ever interact again, is not going to feel cheated-on that I offered you one-"

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"I am not going to feel cheated on I'm just not very well equipped to derive comfort from affection that costs the source as I assume it would!"

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"Not being able to offer you anything is costing me too, I honestly have no idea which would be worse."

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"Well, I assume you would have a really hard time right now terraforming me another island but I am sure nothing that will tempt your golem to break my jaw need be involved."

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He nods.

 

"...also I am assuming the Enemy copied the notes when he broke your house and I don't feel comfortable reading them, knowing that's how I'm getting them, but I think that realization they're going to just erase next iteration, I was getting all trusting before I thought it through -"

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"Well, I could tell you that I found them all neatly boxed up and don't think he realized the significance at the time but obviously you would have every right to roll your eyes at me.

Do you want to look over my shoulder while I do a day of notes."

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"Wouldn't that defeat the point, for you? The personal reflections are all redacted -"

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"I could shoo you before I get to that part. Or not, if it would help, I will not keel over and turn into an infant in a hollow tree somewhere in the Pineapple Islands if somebody reads my personal reflections, Aydanci's seen some of them when there was a reason, if it will help that's a reason."

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"It would help if I had Kib's permission which I do not."

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"That doesn't even make sense. I'd be writing notes about today. If this is a hallucination then there do not exist any authentic Kib notes on this day we have just had here in this hallucination, let alone any personal reflection about them. And if it's not a hallucination who the fuck else would I be."

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:"I'm fine with looking over your shoulder, I just don't want to read more from when we met."

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"I am heroically biting my tongue on quips about how choice a couple of the installments would be."

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"I wanted to get to the part where I confessed my feelings to you! But I don't think that's fair now that I suspect I'm reading these without the real Kib's permission."

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"Is this actually your extrapolation about how I'd react to the idea of you having those notes given the premise that the fucking Enemy has them to pore over at his leisure, given that you'd want them -"

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"Given that I am presumably going to be weaponized against you all at some point, or why take me alive at all -"

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"If he needs you to know what happened when you confessed your feelings he could just let you remember it it is not like you weren't there."

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"And if he needs me to be not just in love with you but wholly dependent on that for whatever semblance of sanity I'm managing, he could give me pages of notes like those."

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"Okay."

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"You could just tell me what happened I don't think that'd be as - addictive -"

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"You didn't actually confess as such. I carelessly informed a whole ballroom that I was gay when I was trying to figure out why the dancing was gendered, you told me that was disgusting, I stormed out of the room insofar as I could storm before I had my grace ring. Findekáno had to bail you out."

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",,,,if you are willing to convincingly insist that you're the real Kib and wouldn't mind, I would love to read those notes."

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"I do not know how to convince you!"

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"Assuming this is a hallucination and I'm supposed to somehow be used against you once the Enemy's ready and I'm being offered these notes, what do you want me to do?"

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"By stipulation you're being dictionary attacked. You're not wrong that what you do to a dictionary attack is absolutely never ever produce the result no matter what, but the result is being usable to hurt me beyond by the already mission-fucking-accomplished mechanism demonstrated, the result is not having feelings. I assume. I can't think of a way for you knowing more about the story of Findekáno saving you from your conservative public image to leverage directly into usability as a weapon and I'm pretty creative."

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"Then I'd like the notes.

 

 

And I'm sorry about hurting you. If there's an obvious avenue to stop I'd be delighted -"

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"That's not a bit on you. That's all him. You're coping astonishingly well even perhaps especially if it's all faked."

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"It is not about fault."

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"I'm not even going to redact this one, I don't think it contains any economics digressions, you can come read it straight out of the book it's in if you want."

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"Thank you. I -

 

 

 - I love Kib."

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That gets, not quite a laugh, but an exhalation inclined in that direction. "If you want to call me Aly for a while to distinguish what you can be sure of from what you can't or something I won't mind."

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"Might try that. Not to refer to you, though, to refer to the person who wrote those notes, who - I really do want to read what you thought of that mess -"

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Kib nods, and leads the way to where he keeps all his notebooks, and rummages through them, and finds the notes on the dance.

It is as he said: choice.

- entire society of animal-breeding aliens has elevated it to such a fucking art form they have stupid purity taboos about it, this probably isn't as bad as the hardline gender segregationists but then again I'd have a hard time spending such pleasant time unknowingly in the company of large numbers of hardline gender segregationists, how did I not notice, they're not that big on PDA I guess -

- they're fucking telepathic I don't buy for a second he didn't see this coming he's too sharp and they're fucking telepathic he could have warned me I don't even know what social ramifications I'm looking at -

- I can't even dance -

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He buries his head in his hand and makes strangled noises.

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"It improved from there! Obviously!"

Here is the part where Kib solicits an apology and speculates fruitlessly about why Maitimo was making such intermittently agonized faces and then pretending he hadn't done that! Here is the part where he goes on another date with Findekáno and they are walked in on and he literally falls off the bed and makes a noise (he has four different attempts at transliterating this noise, in three alphabets, and is unsatisfied with all of them) and his dismay at the implied disrespect from the both of them, he's not a fucking child and he is not stolen goods to be smuggled around and presented to third parties and why are they both so damned pretty it's unfair but he feels very clever for noticing the eight pointed star on the tapestry and remembering about Applicable Families-Related Facts.

Here's the part where he beats Maitimo at Governor. The game's tucked into the notebook; it's not long.

The look on his face. He looked like he was going to spontaneously catch fire. I wasn't even trying to flirt with him at first except insofar as I continued talking and didn't leave the room. (The fact that this sufficed: best.) And then he asked if I was doing this to him on purpose and I said I could start (one of these days I'm going to get myself into trouble saying whatever seems - cleverest? Aptest? Note to self consult thesaurus or osanwë somebody concept to see if Quenya has a word I suck at inventing words, outsource to Elves) (anyway) and he said "what the Halls would it look like if you were doing this on purpose" (eeeee) and I pointed out that I don't have to be trying to be brilliant and vain, I'm just like that all the time, and from there I was really pretty merciless but no complaints about the results {did Aly have the back of the neck thing, I guess there's no way to know since she was single} -

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And he reads it, and is happy, again, it's almost suspiciously easy to be happy, visiting Valinor in Kib's voice, and he - 

- wants it to be real - wants a hug even if it's fake - wants to stop hurting these people, these lovely perfect people he'd built a life with -

He starts crying. He could, of course, make himself stop. He doesn't do that.

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"I wish you could have him back."

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"Have - you? Are you not sure whether you are real now, that'd be new."

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"Hmm? No, it's just - I don't think I am ever going to be that and if I were you still could not trust it -"

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"Mm."

Sigh.

Next page if I remember right is extensive minutiae about the sex, you probably want to skip that.

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Do I? It seems vaguely appealing to have a memory, even secondhand, of how that goes when you don't force me...

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Oh. Go ahead then.

It's not particularly designed to be titillating to read and more of the text is nonce words and onomatopoeia than usual. The sex was apparently hot and gentle and delightful and included lots of nibbling on Kib's neck and Maitimo's hair being soft (insert string of enthusiastic punctuation) and he turned down the telepathic projection of desperate want and ruminates for four paragraphs about whether that would have been confusing and how nice it might have been and the difference between knowing it was there and knowing what it was like and at the end of paragraph four concludes that he will probably want to try it sometime but sometime might be a while. It was annoying that the place was not soundproofed enough that he could scream, stupid Elf hearing, he thinks he would probably otherwise have screamed and is not sure how much of his attention not-screaming took or whether it made him less present in the experience.

There was cuddling.

Maitimo woke him from a bad dream - he lists the dreams, there were innocuous ones and then there was a pox one, somebody changing Aly's bandages - handwriting deteriorates briefly around there - there was more cuddling. Maitimo suggests that the next time awful things happen to Kib he could take a moment to remember that it is entirely possible that the experience is just a dream to his future self.

Had to sneak out the window. That was annoying.

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"Is this moment just a dream to your future self?"

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"Guess it could be. But sort of only by virtue of being both that and something that actually happened. I'd give away the ending for whoever my future self is but I don't know it yet. If I'm lucky I have my notes."

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"You mean, whether we win the war?"

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"Memories come in smallish chunks. This chunk is much more likely to leave him or her waking up wondering what happened to you. Although, hello future self, if you get a chance look into whether or not we have successfully killed the evil god who is fucking responsible for this thanks..."

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"If the hallucination had the premise the Enemy were dead I'd be fine. There'd stop being so many things it was a bad idea for me to learn about. I could do things that mattered again.

And on the other side if we found proof this wasn't a hallucination, I'd be fine too, I could just swear you and Findekáno full access to my head and that solves the trust problem."

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"...well, it would be sort of disturbing but I suppose..."

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"Or just him, if it'd bother you too much. It would be preferable to having no way to persuade you I'm not relaying everything I see and hear straight to Angband."

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"I don't actually think you're doing that. Just can't justify assuming you aren't, or won't start after some period of time, or something..."

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"Yep. So, killing the Enemy is the most straightforward avenue to solving all our problems. Or figuring out something you want from me, but you've made it clear that's not a place you're at right now."

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"I want things for you."

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"Working on it."

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"I know." I love you.

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He sits there, quite still, looking at the notes over and over as if he hasn't already committed them to memory.

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Kib attempts to get his breathing under control in some form that's not "sighing constantly".

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"You have work to do."

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"Yeah."

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"Thank you for your time."

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"You're welcome."

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Enchanting armor probably isn't harmless enough; he could make them do something different, if he'd been taught how in Angband. He can cut and polish gemstones. He can copy books, but not as fast as a scriber. He is miserable, but he doesn't let it spill over to affect people whose time is valuable, not again.

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Kib can pretty trivially start doing his notes in parallel, diary stuff on one page and anything sensitive on another. Maitimo can have the first half of each batch if he wants.

He could make automaton chassis? Golems it's theoretically possible he could hide an instruction set somewhere but if something's going to be awakened as an automaton it will only pay attention to the instructions Kib connects it to, not random graffiti...

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Sure, thanks, he can do that.

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And Kib tells Findekáno everything.

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Findekáno hugs him. And shakes, a little.

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Squeeze.

Do you suppose it'd help to let him borrow senses while we're together. He could stop listening if it was too much, right?

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....that's interesting. Probably - at least worth offering?

I'm still trying to think why the Enemy'd fuck with that specifically - of all the things to aim for if you could arbitrarily toy with someone's head -

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Well, maybe it's not genuinely arbitrary, or he had a plan like Maitimo was worried about where he'd get psychologically dependent on me or us through some carefully sculpted series of traumas and then that somehow ruins everything, or the Enemy gets off on it, I don't know -

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If you were crafting Maitimo to eventually get released and fuck up the war effort as much as possible even if we were being careful, what would you aim for?

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...is there some purpose to my answering that, or...?

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You're better at thinking of that kind of thing than me, if we had a better sense of the goal we'd have a better sense of how to counteract it, there has to be an explanation that makes sense and I want to have it to work from... I am not deliberately hurting us both for no reason, if that's what you mean.

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I genuinely can't think of a purpose for this unless we assume the Enemy was interrupted while working on some really complicated mental state. If the point is to drain our time he could do that better by having Maitimo more able to benefit from it, we'd lose hours just lying there holding him if he wanted that. If the point is to distract our attention - I might be underestimating Maitimo but I'd think with years to work in a competent Enemy could get him to 'shadow of his former self' much more effectively than this. With, perhaps, nothing but the memory-removal power alone and the opportunity to try a few variations. If the point is spying or sabotage and he can get Maitimo in a spying- or sabotage-capable state we ought to have gotten him traumatized and flinching at odd things that we could then remove from his environment and have him recover believably in a month or three and then all hail the King! Him thinking we're hallucinations and capable of telling us so does not seem to serve any purposes except upsetting us and not even in a way that's really impairing our effectiveness - you work longer hours upset, I think it actually makes me more imaginative in a certain way, and the Enemy knows how to impersonate the both of us so this shouldn't come as a shock to him -

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He nods. So, interrupted. At a minimum before getting him to the point of not being able to tell us that we're hallucinations, possibly other stuff - he might not actually have anything more wrong with him than we know about - 

- if Maitimo wanted us to spend hours lying there holding him I don't think he'd say so -

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Probably. I could dictate programming to somebody by osanwë, but somehow I do not think that this wouldn't occur to him, so I assume whatever complications lead to him not saying are more internal than not wanting to waste time.

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I actually think most of his psychological state is explainable by there being an Enemy who he can't help fight, and people all around him whose trust he shouldn't be trying to earn, and no reason to expect that will change...

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Hugs. Thank you. For sharing the notes.

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Sigh. I hope they helped in the long run.

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I really don't think they could've hurt. He should - have all his memories. No way that benefits the Enemy.

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Yeah.

I do not feel like getting up for at least twenty minutes. Could propose the sense-borrowing thing, see if he wants vicarious snuggles.

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Mmhmmm.

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Hey Maitimo?

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Yes?

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I'm flopped on Findekáno at the moment and if you want either of our senses on the theory that this is pretty easy to abruptly stop doing help yourself.

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....okay.

He tenses up and scoots against the wall, but he listens.

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It's cozy and warm and Kib's doing that thing where he's got his face pressed into Findekáno's shoulder, breathing slow, feeling heavy, eyes mostly closed.

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He stops, after a little while, because actually it does not seem it'll be much help to have memories of things he cannot have. He doesn't tell them this. He curls up in the corner and tries to straighten out his head.

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Kib doesn't demand a status update.

He stays put for about twenty-five minutes and then he gives Findekáno a kiss and goes back to programming.

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The dinosaur cavalry's fully grown now. They ride it around Beleriand making sure the orcs were properly cleared out the first time and making it known that there's food and shelter and safety to be found in the new kingdom. They hand out shines. They use automata on rails to mine more effectively. 

 

Maitimo starts idly plotting how he'd end up back in charge of his country, if he wanted. It seems a dangerous thing to think about, but he's so terribly lonely and useless and bored.

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Yep. Kib's worried about him. If this were not obvious from looking there's the half-batches of notes every day, brainstorming about things he could do. There are margin notes disclaiming actual intentions to follow through on anything more elaborate than "here is a harmless useful pastime" without more thought and Maitimo's cooperation and so on but there's all kinds of musing about the cunning use of oaths (time-limited oaths not to reveal anything to the Enemy so if he winds up caught in a contradiction it's temporary?) and seeking help farther afield (is there, like, any established ex-Utumno-prisoner protocol he could adapt if he sailed back to Valinor? Which would not get him yet more mind control for his trouble?).

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Couple centuries in Lorien is the protocol! It seems to be pretty effective, in that when the centuries have passed the person who comes out of Lorien is pretty functional and happy. Maitimo's not very tempted.

 

What Maitimo wants to do is stage his takeover and trust his boyfriends to have anticipated this and have something he doesn't know about in the works to stop him if it turns out seizing power is the trigger for something bad. But if he knows they're doing this he'll stop them, and he doesn't think they can outmaneuver him reliably enough.

 

He has a pretty good plan to take power. He files it away in his mind, idly, and enjoys Kib worrying.

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If the notebooks are anything to go by, and they should be, Kib does not particularly expect Maitimo to stage a not-technically-coup, on the grounds that this would be exploitative of political weaknesses in the host that Maitimo should instead point out to somebody so they can stop having them. Kib is not dwelling overmuch on the possibility.

He does write about the question of what purpose the state they got Maitimo in might serve and the conclusion that it's probably something complicated, interrupted (unless the Enemy is just pointlessly sadistic, that's also a possibility) but there's no way to be sure.

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Thauron offers explanations sometimes at night. He doesn't share them; if Thauron wants people to hear it then Maitimo doesn't.

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Of this, of course, Kib is ignorant in its entirety.

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Sometimes someone else escapes Angband. Usually they ask the first people they find to kill them. The Noldor oblige.

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Which sends Kib into a little spiral every time about Maitimo's will to live. The edges of that but only the edges make it into the half of the notes Maitimo gets.

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Maitimo is unsure if pointing out 'if I kill myself the hallucination ends and the next one won't be as pleasant' helps here. Eventually he says it anyway.

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"Oh, is that how it works.

- then why does everybody else ask to die?"

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"The ones who want to live probably wouldn't come to an established settlement. Most of them either kill people or keep them chained, which is worse, but there's not much you can do about that, not when we all might serve the Enemy.

 

...for the record, even if there weren't a golem on me, if an oath to hurt you came into force at this minute I could just not do it. It's unimaginably painful but I'm used to that."

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"Not sure 'just' is the word, there."

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"I wouldn't do it."

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"Okay. But the golem being there means it wouldn't even be unimaginably painful, right?"

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"Yep. I'm not trying to convince you to remove it, that'd be - worrying."

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"A bit, yes."

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"I've been idly figuring out what I'd do if I worked for the Enemy, but only out of boredom. There aren't any disasters here, the chance this is real and I'm untampered with doesn't weigh very heavily when the difference between the current situation and one where I was helping are so small."

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"I'm sorry you're bored."

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"Oh, it's much nicer than Angband, don't worry. But you'd be bored in my place, wouldn't you?"

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"...I'd be frustrated, but I can keep myself hour-to-hour entertained on wheel spinning pretty okay, if that's what's available," Kib says. "I am capable of killing time if there is a good reason to kill time. It would not thrill me but I think I'd live with it better than you are, I'd, I don't know, write a novel, I was going to write a novel with reincarnation in to see if there was anybody else and never got around to that and I couldn't publish it in my world now but I could still write it."

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"I don't think I actually get anything at all out of doing things for myself."

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"On a certain level I do literally everything for myself. If I had to avoid affecting or learning things about most of the world around me I'd just have to - narrow that, a lot."

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(There is, he'd realized a few weeks in, one thing he can do for the people he loves; the unfair thing is that it'd be much less of a favor if he told them he was doing it.)

"I do not think I like being narrowed, a lot. But it's hardly urgent. I am after all an Elf and will take fifty years to get pressingly bored, and by then maybe there'll be interesting progress in a field that didn't exist when I was captured which I can learn about."

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"I considered learning to sing, but I determined I was only considering that because I was miserable over not having been able to save Aydanci and it is not in fact a good use of my time or anybody's ears."

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"At least there's something thematically appropriate about it. I can't think what skillset should have let me avoid my errors - don't underestimate Thauron, I suppose, and here I am, trying not to do that again..."

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"We knew he had illusions," murmurs Kib.

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"Don't beat yourself up over it, it was hardly your domain for strategic decisionmaking..."

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"Unfortunately, I do actually think I'd have come up with it if I had thought harder. It is the sort of thing I am generally able to come up with."

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"Hopefully Nolofinwe is in the habit of asking himself all the time 'if this is a trap of the Enemy, how is it so'."

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"Hopefully."

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"Have you actually worked with him? I suppose you he could sensibly delegate to Findekano and not consider further, it wouldn't be a good use of his time to try to keep up with the engineers...."

 

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"No, haven't directly to speak of, should I?"

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"Can't think why, particularly. I benefitted from having you as an advisor but I don't think advising Kings is your generalized comparative advantage in this war."

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"Yeah, that was about my reasoning, shorter on servantmakers than smart people."

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"Hopefully not short on servantmakers for much longer, Lari came in all heavily supervised and showed me she can wake golems nowadays. She doesn't remember me. Not that I really expected her to, not that I fully remember any of you..."

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"They must've at least told her who you are?"

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"I'm the King who's very sick because the Enemy caught him, yes. My brothers all grew up running to me with every need and every triumph and every question..."

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"...I'm probably not best equipped to understand the, the lost significance, but I'm sorry."

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"I've been thinking about whether the oaths could work. The problem is of course that I don't want to swear them; swearing anything while in an Enemy-controlled hallucination seems like a bad idea. But if there were a way to set the right conditions, so that I wasn't still bound to it in the next iteration..."

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"Well, you'd want to time-limit it, you could also word it to expire if there's a discontinuity."

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"And then, what, reswear to it every month? What are you planning to do if some month I don't?"

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"Hadn't assumed it was a likely enough idea to think through in that much detail... change all our security again and ship you to Valinor?"

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He nods cautiously. 

"If you cared to think it through it more detail I think it would be the obviously sensible course if this were real and not a hallucination."

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"I'll talk it over with Findekáno."

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"Thank you. There might even be a way to keep me mostly unconscious if it works out badly and you wanted to do that."

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"Maybe at least long enough to get you to Valinor in a fast boat. A song or something," sighs Kib.

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"You should make sure survivors of Angband know that's an option. By a means other than death, I mean."

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"Good idea. I'll pass it around."

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"This all assumes the Valar won't cut off Endorë the way they cut off the human world when startled. That might be too optimistic."

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"It wouldn't be straightforward, no portals, but - yeah."

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"Wouldn't be that hard. If someone goes back and is in the service of Melkor..."

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"Did this never come up with Utumno? Presumably not sailing across but I didn't have the impression that every oath had a suicide escape clause..."

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"Most people who were prisoners in Utumno did not choose to be reembodied. The ones who did had mostly gone through   Mandos and been deemed safe."

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"Well, I guess he's good for something sometimes. Ugh. Okay, so we can't necessarily rely on Valinor as a pleasant holding area for people... anywhere else is potentially assailable, although if we think it might be challenging for the Enemy to reach things on another continent we could sail there, set something up of our own..."

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"People are definitely going to prefer death to a chance of recapture."

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"Do you want to be able to tell your golem to kill you if you want."

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"Not as much as I want to at least in one way be doing right by you."

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"Even if I thought this were real I wouldn't. 

 

 

Doesn't work anyway, there's no way to actually make it all stop- even if you don't come back-"

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"...make it all stop?"

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"Are you sure you want to have this conversation."

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"No but it seems to be happening and I have a pretty good imagination if I have to make the rest of it up."

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"You don't have a good enough imagination."

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"I'm so sorry," murmurs Kib. "I wasn't thinking, I could have thought of it and I didn't and I'm sorry and I love you."

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"I was trying to make sure you didn't. It's not as if anything is better if you're sad. And I think he'd want that."

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"Yeah. Probably."

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"I told Findekáno to go away and be safe."

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"Well. He didn't."

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"I'm sorry."

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"What, that you didn't convince him to leave you there?"

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"That I made either of you care about me in the first place."

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"My recollection assigns you comparatively little responsibility there."

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"Could've refused to apologize after the dance, said I'd meant every word. You'd probably be happier now."

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"Are you expecting me to be, what, such an unconvincing imitation that I evince a preference for blissful ignorance."

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"I hate that even if he never got a word out of me and doesn't have mind control he is still using me to hurt you. I hate it."

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"Price of admission for being a person and not a golem, I have an emotional range, it responds to things."

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"Would you - should I have tried harder to recover more convincingly, I could be acting normally by now-"

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"Did I tell you when it came up with Findekáno that we can't figure out a purpose for which the state he recovered you in could possibly be optimized except maybe confusing us or unstrategic sadism? If you were acting normally by now you'd be a match for my best guess at sabotage-optimized, not exactly better."

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"And what would you have done about that?"

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"Are we assuming I'm convinced all is well or that I notice that you're thusly optimized?"

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"I am hoping that at some point in my absence you learned a modicum of paranoia?"

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"Some. I was not about to produce all the details of a master plan to keep you away from anything delicate if you said 'do let's speculate in detail about option two'."

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"I think if I were compromised I would have killed you right away, depending on how much 'compromised' resembles 'working for the Enemy'.

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"I have a golem on me all the time too, and I did check to make sure there weren't any Maiar or anything smuggled along with you."

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"And you think I couldn't have arranged to get closer than our golems currently permit, if that'd been an objective?"

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"The one foot perimeter is for your comfort, not my safety. These things are fast. I guess you could have gotten lucky - for certain values of lucky - but you'd only get the one shot."

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"It was demonstrated to me in Angband that humans are very fragile."

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"Demonstrated? I wouldn't think he'd be careless with the kids, it's not like he has a way to replace them."

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"He has adults. Don't know how many. I assume he grabbed them when everything went to hell or we'd have noticed. Only saw a few. It's presumably why he was willing to trade us the kids - he does not strictly need them." A pause.

 

"He's trying to figure out whether humans can be altered to bear or father children, and if so whether the resultant children are servantmakers - think the goal is something that breeds like orcs, has binding oaths, and can servantmake.  I should probably have told you sooner. I told my family and Nolofinwe."

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"I do not know of any successes on that project."

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"Small mercies. Anyway. We're kinda fragile. I would still bet on the golem."

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"I don't think he can do it. If he had mind control outright things would have gone down very differently back in Valinor. You can do a lot with the memories but I don't think you can get me to sabotage my people. There has to be some other explanation for the Elves that do."

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"Back in Valinor I was assuming he was supervised to some degree but when I speculated that he might not really have slowed my aging and just said he did Findekáno did not present this notion as counter-evidence, so there's that... Aydanci didn't think his private thoughts distinction slipped when the Enemy reacted to something he was thinking, either."

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"He can definitely read memories. Not literally at will, but - the standard approach would just be torture someone long past lucidity until their private thoughts distinction slipped, and he knew too much, too quickly, for that to me the mechanism by which he got things out of me."

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"If not at will then - when?"

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"It might only be in Angband, it might just require physical contact, it might be there's some specific procedure to do it which he obviously would have made me forget -"

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"Not only in Angband, he read Aydanci. Maybe easier in Angband or something."

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"Or he can get surface thoughts in general, can get everything you've ever experienced on his home territory. He also has lots of other nice conveniences - you can't die or fall unconscious -"

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"Charming."

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"I don't mind talking about it - or, it doesn't really rise above the general background minding existing - but I don't think you'd find it helpful in any sense, and I don't want it spread more generally, it's...something of an information hazard?"

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"Because people will be inclined not to accept strategically worthwhile risks of capture?"

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"Because a whole lot of people will probably conclude there's absolutely no amount of nearly-certain blissful immortal life that makes a chance of Angband worth it how do Elves stop existing."

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"I don't think you'd conclude that, but I am going to bound it at maybe five percent of people who really know? ...most of the dead of Utumno don't choose to come back, it's not because they're broken, it's because they know."

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Nod.

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"I'm sorry."

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"This is in no way shape or form your fault."

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"Last hallucination I was really vicious to you with it. I'm sorry about that."

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"Did I do anything interesting?" mutters Kib.

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"Got very demonstratively upset, of course, and then worked-worked-worked away on some golem that let you verify oaths from the Enemy, and then he made you a really good deal to hand me back over to him - and since I was strategically unimportant it was obviously the right thing to do -"

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"I think he might have been trying to feel out from me what I thought your realistic reaction would be, so to be safe I - didn't think about that, I didn't try to sort out what my reaction taking it at face value would have been, I just begged very prettily and then you were all amenable to being seduced into not doing it and I knew by then - you told your golems 'hold Maitimo down, stop responding to instructions from him' and I thought 'yes, that's Thauron, I knew it'..."

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"I wouldn't, I would never -"

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"Kib would never," he says, almost gently.

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"Do you want me to actually start talking about myself in the third person, I could probably get the hang of it, I do it with Aly often enough."

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"I don't want anything from you. If this were real I'd want you to just make me do whatever it is I'm most useful at, so I don't have to figure out whether and in which directions I'm supposed to be resisting. And if interacting with me's bad for you I guess I'd want you to stop, and if it's good for you - it doesn't make sense not to offer you everything I offered Thauron wearing your face..."

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"My well-being is not an independent concept here."

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"There are things about this scenario that make it unusually tolerable and you are one of them. I don't want that to come at your expense, though."

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"...I'm going to take that as a compliment, I guess."

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"Sorry I can't get more specific but then you can design the next one better for whatever your purpose is. Just in case he either doesn't have fully general mindreading or it costs him something, you know."

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"Be less of a compliment if I needed coaching to manage 'unusually tolerable'."

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"I can do compliments. You've hung on really well over tragedy after tragedy without even developing an unhealthy fear of losing people, it's very impressive. You've made a lot of progress on the golems that I'm not supposed to seek more information about. You've handled this whole mess with adorable equanimity and I'm so, so glad Findekano has you, it takes so much pressure off me."

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"...wasn't fishing, but thank you. It'd be a lot harder without Findekáno."

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"It's not that you were fishing, it's that I was. It is hard to describe how afraid it makes me, being useless..."

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"I'm sorry."

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"Not Kib's fault. I love him. Don't let me keep you."

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"Kib loves you too," murmurs Kib, and off he goes.

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You look like you got hit by a fully loaded mining cart at top speed. Maitimo?

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No, it was the mining cart, see, you can tell because of all the colorful bruises the golem wouldn't have let Maitimo land.

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Hugs. He's going to be okay.

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Lean. You think so? Really?

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Not on a timescale you're going to find acceptable, but yeah. After the war we'll go find him some population with pressing problems the Enemy couldn't possibly benefit from seeing him work on and he'll do that for a few centuries and then he'll realize that it's definitely been an objective few centuries, there's been enough art and music and invention that the Enemy couldn't have all duplicated....

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Okay.

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I'm hoping it won't take him that long to pick an attitude towards us other than 'terror alternating with fake normality alternating with upsettingly needy subservience' but that's not really what's important, what's important is that he's happy.

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Agreed on both counts.

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Want to talk about the metaphorical runaway trolley?

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Sure.

And Findekáno gets a digest of the conversation. And clinging, some of that.

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He clings back. I am inclined to give him a method of suicide, if his stated reason for not asking is that it'd make us sad. I think I'll refrain from asking him what I did to him in past iterations, with that to work from - still think he'll someday be okay - do you think it'd be better for him if I asked him for more things - 

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If they're plausibly useful to you, maybe.

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I'll try to think of some. How are you doing?

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I'm glad I'm not dealing with this alone.

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Me too. Oh, me too. 

 

It wasn't a mistake rescuing him, was it - I could have killed him -

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Would that be better, what magical powers of actually useful healing should I be attributing to Mandos...?

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He could possibly make him forget the whole thing, if there aren't oaths that are still acting somehow. Sent us back to us as he was when he waved goodbye to me and went off to talk to a village of Men...

Well, as he was plus edits for Valarin decency. 

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Not exactly best finesse, that.

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Nope. And this might be beyond Lorien - Lorien's usual thing is that it gives you whatever you need, but 'a population of people with a pressing problem the Enemy couldn't plausibly care about' is not the sort of need it can handle.

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Not as such, I would not imagine.

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And that's what Maitimo needs. To matter. 

 

I have no idea what to do. Want to come up with oaths that might cause him unthinkable psychological torment but not more than a month of it?

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This does somehow manage to be worse than his current unthinkable psychological torment?

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You know, I actually don't know. I could try a minute of it and see, if the information might change anything...

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You can't compare straight across, Kib points out, also, augh.

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No, but I could get a sense of 'could conceal this for months until my boyfriend happens to wonder why everyone who makes it out wants to die' versus 'if this triggers he'll spend the whole month begging us to kill him in between screams and we should probably do it'

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Any data extant on recovery from oath contradictions? Even if it only lasts a minute by itself...

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No. But if we're asking Maitimo to chance it -

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If it turns out the result is "recovery, what recovery, do this and you are a trembly heap of misery forever even if it's literally one minute" it will obviously have been a mistake in retrospect for you to try it. Maitimo has upside potential.

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I am not sure 'Maitimo is a trembly heap of misery literally forever because of something we did' is actually something I'd successfully cope with anyway.

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...yeah.

Maybe we could build in a contingency to avoid it - 'if this oath contradicts with another I will yell really loudly and then this one is discharged' and then if he yells really loudly his golem reacts -

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That should work.

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If there's not a way to knock him out though it'll probably just have to kill him.

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It'd be nice to have the trigger for killing him something other than 'yells loudly', lest he yell loudly for some other reason. And I'm going to need to be very politically careful, lest it happening be very destabilizing. But. yeah.

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Yeah, 'yells loudly' is not necessarily it. Anything he won't normally do that the golem can distinguish. Pick a random string of nouns from when I'm sleeping as a code or something.

Doubles as a suicide trigger.

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Yes. Golem can make it quick?

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Yeah.

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Then let's figure out what we want him to swear to.

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Some sufficiently rigorous definition of sabotage, something to prevent passing information...

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Acting at all on altered motives if he comes to realize he has them....

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Yeah. Well, more than just plain experientially altered, I don't want him obliged to act on his pre-Angband preferences for every purpose.

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Yeah. Though if we could somehow just roll him back I think I would...

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Yeah.

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For the next month I swear not to act on motives magically altered by the Enemy, not to give the Enemy information or make it easier for him to acquire it, not to act against the interests of the Noldor in this war or enable other actors who serve the Enemy....

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There are probably things that make it easier for the Enemy to acquire information which are worthwhile. Especially if we don't narrow the scope of "information".

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And we can't do anything like 'in a way he doesn't expect we'd endorse' because I get the sense his mental models of us are a bit skewed.

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Yep. Could make him actually run it by us - or somebody else -

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Too easy for him to characterize things in a way that makes them sound harmless, unless we do want to take him up on swearing not to keep thoughts private from us which ugh.

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Ugh, Kib agrees, especially under conditions of not thinking we're even real - would it work if he specified 'Kib and Findekáno, the real ones' or no? -

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No, you can't use oaths to derive information about the world, they always go off your current best knowledge....

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Grand. Run things by us with a complete sincere risk assessment?

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Sure. is that the best use of your time? It can be 'run things by me and his family' if not...

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It's not a great use of my time but it may make sense to have me as an option even if I'm not obligatory.

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Okay. So 'on anything that allows the Enemy to learn information, run a complete risk assessment by at least one of -" and then some people - presumably none of us are coerceable with his current resources...

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One hopes. If that looks like it's changing we can revise the list next month.

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Okay.

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Probably there are other details that should be picked over but this sounds at least draft quality.

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Now I should probably talk to everyone who is likely to react badly to this one way or another, make sure my beloved cousins don't insist it be a golem of Lári's or something...

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Why would that help?

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Because to the right kind of mind, giving Maitimo back the Kingship and you the capacity to kill him at will and make it look like suicide or Enemy action is - concerning?

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Well, giving the same power to a small child seems iffy in its own right. Politick as necessary, I guess.

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I'd much rather it be you than Lári, obviously, but I think she's too young for it to occur to her that she has leverage just because she poked the golem and then told it 'do what Findekáno says'.

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She's not too young to be talked into telling it to do what somebody else says.

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I intend to point this out as often as necessary. Feanáro's been unreasonable at me lately and I don't know why, but everyone else I can get to come around.

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Suppose he could've guessed.

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...what? How?

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He knew about me and Maitimo, so it's not so inconceivable to begin with, and honestly flying off on a pterodactyl to rescue someone is a hint, sighs Kib.

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Oh.

Well in that case I suppose I should be thanking him. Being aggressively unreasonable looks less annoying when he could have easily had me arrested.

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Do you want me to talk to him? Mind, I'm not sure what I'd say that wouldn't tell him if he didn't actually guess and is being unreasonable for other reasons.

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I'm pretty used to him being, well, himself. And he's less than a mortal year out on immortality, probably the wrong time to aggravate him. 

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If it is that he probably won't be unreasonable about it being one of my golems in particular, as far as I know he likes me fine...

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I am impressed that you pulled that off. Anyway, I'll tell people what we're doing and assuage various worries and we'll hope Maitimo doesn't get killed or at least does it in public.

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Yeah.

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He rests his head on Kib's. We're doing the best we can. 

 

I can't decide if it'd be worse or better if he was angry with us for it. It'd be disturbingly not-Maitimo but at least it wouldn't be 'whatever you want, dear, though you're probably Sauron'.

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Well, optimistically we can get "that seems sensible given the premises" instead of "whatever you want dear"...

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Yeah.

 

And he goes and persuades people. That Maitimo should be able to take part in the running of the war doesn't require much persuading; here he is all recovered, after all.

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So recovered. All better. Yay.

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They settle on a more careful wording. You want to take it to Maitimo or you want me to?

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Not sure how to guess who he'd take it better from. I'll have to update the golem either way, though, if you'd rather not.

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Not particularly. We have entirely pleasant superficial interactions over sparring and then sometimes he'll come in looking like he's cracking into pieces and ask me to fill in some missing memories and I love him more than anything but I'd hardly call it something I'd rather be doing more often.

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Squeeze. I got it. I dwell on him about the same amount whether we interact or not on any given day.

And Kib brings the draft to Maitimo.

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"I'm trying to think how these will contradict with whatever they get me to swear next iteration."

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"Didn't actually think of that. It probably won't include that you mustn't yell some implausible phrase, though?"

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"Might be forbidden from speaking aloud at all or something..."

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"If you need more variants on the 'implausible phrase' option you could also, I don't know, knock on the golem in some pattern or something, it won't be able to respond to osanwë though..."

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"And I'm assuming it won't be present next iteration. You could cover it with 'if oaths contradict I discharge this one by saying that to the golem if it's present and yelling it over osanwe otherwise'."

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"Sounds okay to me, I'll run it by Findekáno..." He bounces this notion.

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Can he order the golem away from him?

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Not far. It'll give him a few feet but not leave the room or get out of rapid lunging range.

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Then seems safe.

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"He clears it."

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"Do you two draw straws for who has to come and talk with me?"

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"He asked if he should do it or if I would and I said I dwell on you about the same amount whether we interact or not and I'd have to adjust the golem anyway. Straws did not feature."

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"Okay." And he reads the settled-upon wording, aloud and clearly and a bit mechanically.

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And Kib murmurs the update to the golem.

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"Do I need to explain the arrangement to people or has that been done?"

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"Findekáno told people. - Oh, and I don't know if it will ever come up but it may be that your father guessed about you and him. Pterodactyl rescue is a hint in retrospect."

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"Enemy must not have figured out a convincing way to swear to things, or we'd be having much bigger problems..."

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"Or he's saving it for a special occasion or something, yeah."

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"He talks to me most nights, says that he already told the real versions and one of my brothers dueled and murdered Findekano and it was hilariously funny but he doesn't think he's going to use it in this iteration, other plans."

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"Osanwe range is three hundred miles once you know someone well."

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"Should've settled farther south," Kib mutters.

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"It's not really important. I can - and have just sworn to - not send anything back."

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"Conflating 'really' with 'strategically'."

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"Everyone I talk to is the Enemy. At least that one's open about it."

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"And meanwhile I for presumably inscrutable and/or evil reasons will be playing the part of 'upset that this is the way you have to look at the world now'."

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"I think the hallucinations are mostly just to make it obvious to me that not only is escape impossible but it'd be a profoundly selfish act, too, and also to make sure there's no one I care about or want to see, so I only prefer that you all win the war very abstractly and without finding any of you personally worthy of living. I think he thinks that'll make it easier for me to be used against you."

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"Makes sense."

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"Won't work. So I hope it's true."

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Nod.

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"Getting me to hate all of you and be sure that returning to you would be a terrible idea is probably very doable, after a couple dozen of these; I'm already inclined to think that returning would be a terrible idea, actually - but I won't - I don't think you could get me to serve him on that basis - but there's the prophecies..."

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"Complete with the missing hand, come to think of it."

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"There exist circumstances under which I'll ride into a civilian city and massacre my way through it. He has basically perfect capacity to engineer circumstances. I - I'd massacre a city full of orcs, because I know about their oaths and there isn't a better way, all you'd have to do is wipe my memories and give me a set of corresponding ones about Elves -"

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"Yeah," murmurs Kib.

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"And it is too late to be the kind of person who'd never kill anyone - I should have gone to Valimar for a millenium of chemistry after all -"

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"Can still put you on a boat to Valinor. If that's what you want."

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"This is a hallucination. If it were real I'd be less worried, because I do in fact still remember enough to know that I've been tampered with, and under those conditions I wouldn't ride out and murder people."

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"...right."

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"I'm worried about the endgame, not anything particular to this iteration. I haven't even figured out what this one's for, yet."

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"If I'm never really going to escape and I'm never going to go back and he's not going to let me out until I'm perfectly misinformed into a mass murderer, what do you think the real Kib would want me to treat the hallucinatory ones like? I've been struggling with that."

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"Whatever you've gotta do to be - maximally comfortable, I guess, I - if -"

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"Hmm?"

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"If you're positive you're always alone in the hallucinations," says Kib in a small voice.

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"If the Enemy told me you'd been captured also, and then they tried to hurt me by making me watch them torture you, and then Findekano 'rescued' us both..."

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"I don't have a discontinuity in my memories at all so you may assume that I'm either real and you're out, or that I'm a fake," sighs Kib. "Suggesting that possibility probably wasn't helpful, sorry."

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"Do you want me to treat you the way I would if I thought you might be real and a prisoner with me?"

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"I'm not," Kib says. "Just said that. I don't even know what that would result in you doing."

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"...being miserable that you were in Angband, probably? Doing all kinds of things to try to protect you? Talking with you about ways of not ending up usable - 

 

I have considered swearing never to kill anyone or do things that I expect to cause people to die unless I remember this oath and the reasons I swore it, but that seems nearly guaranteed to get me in conflicting ones..."

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"And you'd have to word it more carefully than that or anybody can just announce that they're making some lethal decision contingent on your reaction."

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"Wasn't going to tell people that I'd so sworn, but yes."

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"If you think you're in a hallucination you probably should not be swearing anything best sworn in secret," Kib points out.

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"Can't keep it secret from the Enemy no matter what, and it's not as if I'll be able to talk once the hallucination's over, so."

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...ah.

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"I seem poorly calibrated on what's going to upset you, that's not even particularly bad."

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"My imagination's running away with me."

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"I won't help it along, then, sorry."

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"It is not your fault."

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"Second hallucination I worried about making it obvious exactly how bad you could make things for me before I'd prefer Angband and find a way to end the game, but I think there's some sort of script, you don't respond normally to incentives in these hallucinations..."

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"Incentives?"

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He does not elaborate.

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Kib doesn't ask again.

 

"Anyway. With the oath you can go back to Kinging and hopefully you'll be less at a loose end on how to spend your time."

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"You think that's a good idea?"

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"If it's a bad one I trust myself and the other people around you to catch it."

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"Okay. Thank you."

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"You're welcome."

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"Does Findekáno have a document for me with everything I'm going to need to know -"

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Findekáno, he's expecting some sort of briefing document?

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Yeah. Does he want me or should I send a courier -

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"Yeah. Do you want him to bring it or should he just send it along?"

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"Whatever's convenient."

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Whatever's convenient, he says.

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I -

 

Fine. Tell him I'll be by in a few minutes.

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"He'll be by in a bit."

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Maitimo nods. Sits down stiffly.

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And he comes by a minute later with the papers, hands them to the golem. Watches Maitimo worriedly. Hugs Kib.

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Hug.

The golem passes the papers to Maitimo.

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Who sits down and starts reading them, silently.

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"Love you," sighs Kib, and he gets up to go.

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Maitimo ignores him. 

 

Findekáno leaves with him. Well.

 

Are we making him King because he's good at it or it's good for him?

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Both? He's had trouble with being useless - and he is good at it -

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When he's sane.

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He asked if I thought this was a good idea and I said if it was a bad one I trusted us to notice.

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Yeah.

 

After we've killed the Enemy I wonder if there's anyone we'd be able to ask - about what they do, and why, if it might help...

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Yeah.

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If he wants us to know, I guess. I can't figure out how much he isn't saying out of - a desire for privacy - and how much out of a desire to not give us nighmares and how much out of a desire to not give us ammunition -

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Middle thing, I think, if I assume he's not dissembling. Well, metaphorically, he can't really give me nightmares.

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It's not as if filling in the blanks with imagination is pleasant....

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It's really not, but - he knows that, so -

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Yeah.

And as soon as they're somewhere private he pulls Kib into his arms again. Please tell me we're doing the right thing.

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Squeeze. I think so. I wouldn't be doing it if I didn't think so.

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I know. Me neither. But it used to be - easier to tell - 

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I think the most likely thing is that he's fucked up but does not have his motives seriously tampered with and is capable of acting around the fuckupedness up to and including producing solid Kinging and that this will be better for him than kicking around doing - non-sensitive easily-replaced work.

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I think so too but if his motives are tampered with in a way we failed to think of and protect against then so many people will die having prioritized his happiness will look like quite the crime.

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Yep. Operating under uncertainty is not fun. We can double-check him.

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At his best he could outplay us both. It'd be odd if the Enemy both damaged that and changed his motives.

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I did beat him at Governor sometimes.

I doubt that the Enemy knows how to change motives without breaking anything on the way in. It just... seems unlikely.

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Yeah. He runs a hand through Kib's hair and half-sobs, half-sighs.

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Kib snuggles up. I love you.

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I love you. I trust you. I am so glad I am not going through this without you.

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Kib sighs into the side of Findekáno's neck and then leans up to kiss his cheek.

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He relaxes very slightly and then runs his hand through Kib's hair again. 

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This is probably theoretically unhealthy in some way, Kib observes detachedly while his hand creeps up to Findekáno's scalp.

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Crossed my mind. When it was just - wanting to not think about Maitimo, I don't - don't want to use you to distract myself - but when it's needing you, needing to know we're in this together - 

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I have a distracting myself motive in here but I can do things for multiple reasons.

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I will be as distracting as possible, he says fervently.

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Love you, sighs Kib, and he leans in to the distraction as best he can.

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Maitimo takes over from his regent. Very gracefully, with nearly a year's slow transition time so nothing's lost in the doing. He is excellent at being a King. He is miraculously and wholly recovered, and everyone marvels. There is a festival of celebration which lasts three weeks and includes, of course, some formal dances. He dances. He smiles. He tells his little sister bedtime stories. 

 

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Kib double-checks things.

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He is amenable to being double-checked. Here's what I'm doing, here's why, here's what I'd have done and said if I were evil, would you have noticed? 

 

Almost like a game.

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Kib would have noticed this and that... this might have slipped past him but he thinks Findekáno would have got it and he will install a heuristic for it... are we having fun, Maitimo?

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He flinches.

Then the smile is back. "Just want to keep you on your toes."

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"What'd I do?"

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"Found an opening to say something that wasn't out of character but that Thauron would also have said, it was very clever."

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"It's really very unprofessional of him to display a consistent personality."

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"I know! He can do other ones but the real thing leaks through. He might be used to people needing more cues than I do."

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"I don't suppose it would be wildly implausible were I him for me to come up with extended invective directed at him or anything."

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"That he could happily do. There are actual emotional notes I haven't seen him strike and think might be beyond his capacity, but they're not ones particularly characteristic of you, either - or of any of the people close to me - why did I surround myself with arrogant ambitious passionate stubborn people -"

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"This is probably the part where I say something arrogant but I'm not really feeling it right this minute."

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"Every time I hear my name it sounds like it's in his voice."

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"I could translate it into the common or Harthanic or something? Or make something up. Pick a pet name if it won't make you want to puke, 'honey' is taken but whatever else is open."

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"I am sure he'll delight in giving me horrible associations with any nickname I pick, but thanks."

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Sigh. "You're welcome."

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"Anything else to check for sabotage tonight?"

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"No, I can leave you be."

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"I hope I've made it clear that you do not have to, that I'm happy to try to pull it together -"

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"I can hang around, too, if you want."

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"I don't think I have relevant wants - no, I want you to show your hand sooner if you're Thauron, just so I can stop doubting, I want to stop being a source of pain to you. I don't want this setup to end. I want Kib to be safe and happy and utterly ignorant of Angband."

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"It is," says Kib, "really fucking sadistic that you've been wedged into a situation where you can be uncertain about whether you're talking to me or Thauron, or certain you're talking to Thauron, but never sure you've got me."

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"And everything affectionate I say to you Thauron'll repeat to me later - he'll get the cadences exactly right - over and over, making a mockery of it all - while he tortures someone to death in front of me because I've refused a deal I cannot take -"

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"Then don't. I'll live."

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"I want Kib to be happy. I want Kib to know I love him. I want Kib to know that erasing every single relevant memory did not make that go away, that building new awful ones did not make that go away, that if this turns out to be real my greatest regret will be that I didn't straighten out my head around being touched and then hold you again as soon as I was healthy -"

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"I love you," murmurs Kib. "Stopped giving you notes before you got to the part where I said that - you said it first shortly after I found Aydanci and we weren't someplace I could kiss you and I commented on the timing and you said I could orchestrate it differently and it was prohibitively difficult because you were so paranoid and you were jealous because I told Findekáno first and you went to my world and you got a boat made and you put this ridiculous fluffy grass all over this island it was so soft and we watched the sunset."

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"I cannot really imagine being that person but I wish I could give him back to Kib."

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Nod.

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"Good night."

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"Good night," sighs Kib, "I love you," and off he goes.

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And one day a silvery light appears on the horizon and rises into the sky. The Elves crowd outside to get a good look at it. It's the color of Telperion.

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"That looks like a moon," says Kib.

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"Do moons just. Show up."

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"Not as far as I know, but it was weird that you had shiny trees handling your lighting situation in the first place."

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"The sample size is only two worlds."

 

 

The Moon improves morale. It's so pretty. Everyone weeps when it sinks away on the other side of the world.

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"If it's a moon and not just a moonlike thing it'll be back."

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"That'd be lovely. How does that work, exactly?"

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"Goes around and comes up again on the other side."

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The Moon, indeed, does this. The Noldor hold a council and invent a word for it. They scout enthusiastically with the extraordinary advantage of light. Some nice things are even mustered to say about the Valar.

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The Valar: eventually copied the moon idea from another world after years of dark! Congratulations, The Valar.

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Twelve moonrises after the moon shows up, Arda acquires a sun.

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Kib adjusts his sleep cycle accordingly. Makes brighter shines with the new light source.

Sits up and watches the sunset.

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The Noldor have far too many people to accommodate at the lake, and they prevail upon Ulmo to help them build a secret city in the mountains for civilians and spread out otherwise into fortresses ringing Angband and settlements behind the fortresses on the land where now things are growing. They accumulate new citizens quite rapidly. The continent remains free of orcs. Orcs make a few forays at changing that and Findekáno leads the dinosaur cavalry out to stomp them all to pulp. He does not really seem to find it satisfying. Kib has passed on that Maitimo does not like his name and FIndekáno calls him 'your grace' or 'my liege' and sometimes this wins the shadow of a smile. 

Feanáro figures out how to stop aging and hands Kib a necklace.

 

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"Thank you." On it goes.

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"I'm assuming we want to stop Lári and Aydanci at eighteen also? Giving it to them now will just stop them at their current state, I think."

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"Anywhere between eighteen and twenty-five is reasonable. Differences in that range are mostly cosmetic."

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"Then we'll have them ready by that time, and they can choose. How are you doing."

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"Not making as much progress as I'd like on talking golems but I still expect to be able to manage them."

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"I'm assuming weapons that can injure Thauron are the current best use of my time but I'm persuadable it's programming if there's important projects there."

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"Nope, I'm gonna advise injuring Thauron."

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"Five years," he says, "possibly six before I've got something nice and scalable."

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"I should have a talking golem design by then at least, if that's a useful combination."

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"I do not want to try storming Angband again until we're very sure of a victory. I think Maitimo feels similarly. Could still somehow be a useful combination."

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"What I'm not sure how to do is make sure that a captured golem's instructions can't be read."

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"Does it have to be in any particular language?"

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"No. ...It doesn't even have to be all in one language."

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"And can it be ciphered?"

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"That I don't know, but I can test with something simple."

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"I can get you a procedure that gets instructions unreadable and maybe one that they'd be able to interpret but most possible interpretations of which are wrong and maybe one that they could get right at the cost of a ridiculous amount of engineer time, at which point we can send golems with unimportant instructions in that type at them and hope to waste some." 

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"I can try minimal golems in all the ciphers in case only some of them still work," nods Kib.

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"I doubt they'd be stupid enough to awaken anything they can't read to see what it does but if they are that stupid, something that does impressive projectile weapons when awakened and given a specific set of instructions within the first minute, and explodes killing everything in its vicinity otherwise?"

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"I'm not actually sure how to make a golem that explodes. Not exactly a points-of-articulation question."

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"Internal gunpowder - you're going to need it anyway, for the projectile-weaponing - all the golem'd have to do is light a spark and be made of shrapnel. Several members of my family find designing horrifically deadly things to be soothing under the circumstances. And the Dwarves had gunpowder and have been happy to trade for automata."

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"I can do one that lights a spark. One that does so on awakening only given specific orders is tricky - ones that understand spoken orders generally do so pretty generally - it'd be easier to do with some other trigger, but either way it's possible."

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He waves a hand. "Details are yours, the languages and then something that can hurt greater Maiar are obviously more of mine. The Enemy has yet to do anything really interesting with servantmaking; it is a known shortcoming of the Valar, not being very adaptable..."

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"Yeah, I noticed that, wasn't sure if I should assume it was a stable state."

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"I expect it'll change, but it's been under two Years. The Valar proper just thought to copy your world's lighting. It might not change for a while yet."

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Kib nods, and writes down the projects, and says, "Well. Good skill."

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"Yep." He looks very tired.

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Kib's pretty tired too, and has presumably been sleeping more. Sigh.

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The Enemy tries something with servantmaking. Little grinding automata that aren't very impressive except for being indestructible. 

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Well, if their instructions can be popped out they can be stopped (reused, even), and if they can't they can maybe just be turned around by golems armed with sticks.

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They can turn them around! If they can grab one to figure out how the Enemy's doing indestructibility, it might help on the 'hurt Thauron' project. 

 

The next batch fly. Slowly and excruciatingly clumsily, though.

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This is sufficiently unimpressive that Kib wonders if they're being lulled into a false sense of security. The Enemy could have grabbed a stork or a courier while he was fucking around with the human world, copied the chassis, gotten something that flew well.

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"Yep. Not sure what 'avoiding being lulled into a false sense of security' looks like, though. We're not going out on any more hunts for the newly arrived species..."

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Kib shivers. "Yeah."

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"How long would it take the Enemy to animate a mountain, once the idea occurs to him - and he has my memories, so it has occurred to him -"

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"Depends on how complicated he wants it and how much of the carving he can just skip by being a Vala and wanting a mountain to be a certain shape. Actually waking it would just be a moment, like with any golem."

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"I don't like this."

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"Yeah, me either. If we're lucky he tried it and mountains lack the necessary structural integrity and he'll take a century to get anywhere on that and in the meantime we can kill him."

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"You think we're within a century of having a way to kill him?"

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"Don't really know. Your father guesses five or six years on injuring Thauron and I'm not sure how similar to expect the problems to be."

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"The question that would bother me most if I thought this were real is why Thauron hasn't just waltzed in and destroyed the place."

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"Bothers me too. Don't know."

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The Enemy's servantmaking remains not-quite-reassuringly ineffectual.  The Dwarves have some great ideas for uses of automata, one of which is building railways between various locations in the far east of the continent. 

 

They report eventually that there are humans in the east.

 

"I suppose I should ask if they servantmake," Maitimo says wearily.

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"I am tempted to say just leave them there until I have talking encrypted golems to go ask them with."

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"Yep. I wonder if babies will start appearing here or only near extant humans."

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"Or neither. Could just be a quirk of my world."

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"Well, if babies don't appear and the humans are still mortal they'll die out quickly."

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"Not if they breed like animals."

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"...and Elves and Dwarves. That could be."

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"Or maybe they do something else, or they're immortal, I don't know." Sigh.

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"And we're not checking."

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"I'd send them a courier but it seems optimistic to assume that they're literate, even if they woke up with a language we know."

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"It took us millenia, and the Thindar never picked it up at all. So probably not, yeah."

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"Should've been a hint that we could talk to the fake humans, really."

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"Osanwe does translation. If my father'd been King he'd have wanted to learn their language before he went over there and then he'd have caught it, but I'm not my father in that."

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"...yeah. Wonder if he's kicking himself over not insisting anyway."

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"If so he hasn't said so. My family doesn't tend to express regrets. He did try explaining to me the last ten years of his work so I could be persuaded that at least ten years' objective time have passed since I was captured, but I'm not smart enough to understand it."

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...Kib considers objecting to this characterization and decides it would not improve matters. "Well, I don't understand how it works either but I have my immortality necklace now."

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"Forgive me for not finding that persuasive proof at least ten years have passed!"

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"I know, I know, of course it's not. Findekáno thinks it's going to take fucking forever."

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"How long did he think? Keeping in mind that if I think the Enemy expects me to take twenty Years, then he's got no reason not to make me experience that many..."

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"Well, the idea is that there would over the course of a long enough period of time be evidence of real-time progress. Music and stuff, if not your father's work. I don't remember the exact figure he quoted, something like a thousand years, I an impatient human pretty much registered this as 'forever' but it's not literally that..."

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"And what outcome are you hoping for once I conclude that this is real?"

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"It doesn't fix everything, I know it wouldn't do that. It'd just - make things more fixable, maybe."

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"Yes, but what things? I can't change what I believe but I can try to change other stuff, if it's bothering you..."

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"Inconveniently I have preferences about underlying psychological realities and not just whether or not you smile at me! I want you to be okay!"

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"If this were real and I had some way to be sure, really sure, that it could never happen again, that I could never be anyone's prisoner again - then I think I'd be okay. Not the same, but okay. I would prefer being alive for more reason than preferring things happen which I need to be alive to see through."

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"Well. I guess I will just wait a thousand years then."

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"They go by faster than you'd think, if you have interesting things to fill them with."

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Sigh. "I'll take your word for it."

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"Hug?"

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"If you tell your golem that it should let you get that close and you come here and hug me I won't move," Kib murmurs.

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"Kib has permission to be within a foot of me," Maitimo says to the golem, and then watches him expectantly.

 

And then when he doesn't move he crosses the room and hugs him, a bit stiffly, and he's trembling, and - "Thank you."

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Kib doesn't move. "- for what?"

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"Not ending it yet, not - moving - working so hard -"

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Sigh. "You're welcome."

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He moves his hand across Kib's back as if trying to memorize him. 

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Kib closes his eyes and breathes slowly and holds very very still.

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"Am I hurting you?"

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"No. Just have to concentrate not to - lean or anything."

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"Asked Findekáno if he minded having the golem hold him but there's - less point of that, with you - can I touch your hair, I don't remember what it felt like -"

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"Yeah," murmurs Kib.

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So he does. Tentatively, with his eyes closed, shaking quite visibly -

 

One of these times I'll be so sure it's not you I won't even be tempted anymore, don't know if that'll be better or worse -

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It's just me, it's - is saying that antihelpful -

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Well, I hope you don't expect it to get a reaction of 'oh, what a relief, in that case all's well again' but I don't mind you saying it -

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No, I don't expect that, but it's just hard not to contradict you. I'm me and there will not be any more iterations this is it it's real.

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The first time I believed in it so - so wholeheartedly -

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I'm sorry, I'm sorry we weren't faster, I'm sorry I wasn't more paranoid to begin with.

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He steps away from Kib. He doesn't tell the golem to change the permissions back, it'd feel rude. He collapses in his chair. That wasn't your job, it was mine.

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I could've thought about it more anyway. Humans walk three miles per hour, great, real useful information that turned out to be.

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Enemy said he offered to trade with you for me back, you all said no. I was glad.

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He didn't even offer.

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Huh. I wonder why lie - maybe he was trying to tell whether I thought you would negotiate, and when I was sure that you wouldn't, he decided not to bother -

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Optimistically, that'd be it. Or he was trying to convince you we didn't care - or both.

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I think I should sleep. Good night, Kib.

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Good night. I love you.

"- resume parameters," he adds to to the golem, as he leaves.

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They have improved war servants, and with the Dwarves are developing a procedure for massed manufacture. The Sun and the Moon behave as they do in Kib's world and create seasons. Snow is bizarre and delightful. The Noldor dance and sing in it. 

 

Kib sorts out a talking golem!

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He names it Charp. They can make a bunch all the same, they'll be able to share information like the storks can. He switches out his bodyguard golem for a Charp. A Charp can go talk to the humans, pick up data about their language and relay it to Fëanáro.

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It's a long trip; the Charp is gone several months. It relays data and Feanáro confirms that the language is not one with common roots from any languages spoken on Arda, not one he'd expect the Enemy would be able to invent, and spoken in a way consistent with Men having started existing a couple of years ago.

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Which does not mean that this is completely risk-free because real humans would also make excellent bait and the Enemy knows that. But the Charps have perfect memories and can learn the language if Fëanáro will help them out with all the leaps of logic and then they can go suggest less primitive nomadic lifestyles to the Men and they can take every fucking precaution before letting them anywhere near anybody who is not a Charp.

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Feanáro is happy to help the Charps learn the language and then go make suggestions to Men.

 

The Charp comes back a few months later with the news the Men have built temples to Melkor.

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Fucking fuck.

Charps can read and write. They can switch to a courier based communication system and get the lag down to a few days and try to pick at that.

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There's a King of humans, already, who defends them from vast packs of werewolves. Melkor-worshippers don't get assailed by werewolves so everyone's a Melkor worshipper. Also, these humans bear children and have already had a lot of them.

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Melkor-worshippers don't get assailed by werewolves. Well, that's a fucking obvious setup if Kib ever heard one but maybe his standards for very new humans are too high. No evidence of servantmaking, at least.

Small mercies.

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"Don't see how we can afford to do anything until we've got a way to hurt Thauron."

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"Yep. It sounds like they've been worshiping Melkor long enough that pulling a few all-nighters to get the Charps going faster wouldn't have even helped, but..."

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"I think you put too much on your own shoulders."

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"Mine are the ones I can commit to whatever I need done without having to do all the fiddly delegating stuff that's very much not my strength."

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He smiles faintly. "We could send Charps over with lots of seeds and instructions on literacy and so forth, and claim they're servants of Melkor, and that his main teachings are to learn and question and not start violence..."

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"You think he's not micromanaging them much?"

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"I'm not sure who it is but either way I'd rather be demanding of their attention."

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"It might not take much attention to sweep through and denounce the Charps."

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"We could send humans prophetic dreams from a hundred miles off if it were safe to get that close..."

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"...sketchy," remarks Kib.

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"Moreso than letting them be toyed with by the Enemy without even being presented with other information?"

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"No, just enough to give me the willies."

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"I promise 'pretend to be a god or magic force of nature' isn't my preferred approach to interacting with newborn species. I tried bringing them presents, remember?"

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"I remember."

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"Getting within osanwe range may not be safe anyway."

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"Yeah. Is writing letters possibly enough to get the acquaintance necessary to boost it?"

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"....no, but getting acquainted with a Charp and then borrowing its senses might be, if that's even possible at all..."

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"I don't think that works, nobody's been able to do osanwë with any golems and Charps aren't that special."

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"I bet it'd work on a sapient golem but we also don't want to send sapient golems into danger areas any more than we want to send our troops. Hmm."

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"Yeah, also that's an unsolved problem yet."

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"Question is whether it's worth solving. What are you working on now?"

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"Trying to figure out if I can let golems pass updates between their conspecifics without having to get in range of each other, maybe via something courier-style to carry the updates."

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He nods. "Good luck. You're getting copied on updates from the humans, yes?"

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"Yeah."

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"Then I'll steal no more of your time. ...hug?"

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"Okay," Kib murmurs, and he holds very still.

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And he murmurs to the golem that it's fine and he holds him and rests his head on Kib's and lets himself believe it's real for a second and then collapses in his chair and gets back to work and reminds himself how unlikely that is.

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"I love you," says Kib, and he goes.

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The humans are taught all kinds of useful technology. They are being talked around into a war with a neighboring tribe of Elves. 

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...well, the Charps are against it. ...the Noldor are against it and the Charps are against it by proxy.

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The King of humans thinks the war is regrettably necessary, and that Melkor supports it.

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Regrettably necessary because?

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The Elves terrorize anyone who enters their forest, and there are ghouls and monsters in the forest, so to be safe from the ghouls and monsters who attack their camp at night the humans need to enter the forest.

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...the Charps would be happy (...Kib would be happy to send the Charps) to go complain at the Elves about that in case the situation can be resolved sans war.

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When the Charps enter the forest it fills with eerie wailing (and illusions, but the Charps won't see that.)

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The Charps would like to talk to the Elves here please.

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Eventually an Elf appears within the Charp's visual range. "You are not welcome here. Leave."

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"I have a message," says the Charp. "It is very important."

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"We are listening."

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And the Charp explains the forest monsters situation, that its masters do not think the Elves here are responsible but it's agitating the humans and probably serving the Enemy's purpose and the Elves being unwilling to talk to the humans is exacerbating the situation. (It does not mention up front that the humans are about to go to war about it.)

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And the Elves say that there aren't any monsters, just Gorthaur's illusions, the Men are just stupid and gullible.

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The Charp does not come stocked with quippy retorts so it does not ask how smart they were when they were a few years old. It says that it would be happy to convey a message to the humans but thinks that in the long run everyone will be better served if the Elves will talk to them directly. The Charp is willing to translate.

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"We are willing to speak to the Men."

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Lovely. The Charp goes and tells the Men that.

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The Men are wary of the forest because monsters, but they'll go up to the edge.

 

The Elves tell them they are stupid and gullible.

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The Charp is, unfortunately, a golem and not a diplomat.

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The Men accuse the Elves of being the monsters.

The Elves announce that anything, Man or monster, who sets foot in their forest dies.

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The Charp interjects that its masters would disapprove of this outcome, but continues to faithfully translate.

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What are the Charp's masters going to do about it?

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It will have to write them and ask.

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The Elves and Men trade more insults and threats.

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The Charp continues to be too much of a golem to panic and say anything particularly useful.

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And the Elves retreat to their forest.

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And the Charp writes to its masters and the courier takes the letter home and Kib says "Fucking hell that went badly."

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"What happened?"

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Kib passes the letter via the golem. "The Charp got the Elves talking to the humans and the Elves opened with 'you are gullible and stupid' and it's a golem not a person it just translated..."

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He reads it. "Gorthaur."

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"I noticed the matching syllable, yeah."

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"It's the Thindarin."

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"This tell us anything useful about his fucking-with-humans tactics?"

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"If I thought this were real my first guess would be that he's the King of humans. Fits his style."

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"Delightful."

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"And there's nothing at all we can do."

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"Well, if I drop into Evil Governor mode for a minute we could help the Elves, wipe out his shiny human resources which he apparently wants for some reason."

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"If we even can, it might just prompt him to actually fight and I'm not sure we could take him with the whole army - actually, no, I am sure we could take him with the whole army. But not with anything short of that."

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"The fuck was Eru thinking," mutters Kib. "Putting them there near the least helpful possible neighbors - could have put them thataway," he gestures, "we could've looked after them from day one..."

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"Yep. Wouldn't even have been clueless either about Arda things like breeding or about human things like physical limitations and mortality..."

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"Argh."

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"When my father has the means to injure Thauron. Not before then."

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"At which time we injure the fuck out of Thauron."

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"If it's sufficiently humiliating that'll incline me towards believing this is real, he'd have a hard time orchestrating a hallucination of his own humiliating defeat."

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"Well, that's encouraging. - Does your family know you think you're hallucinating?"

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"Yes. They're really good at thinking of solutions, it would have been silly to withhold it."

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"Yeah, I'd been assuming they would, just realized I'd never confirmed it."

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"You don't talk with them much. Busy?"

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"Yeah," Kib sighs.

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"I shouldn't keep you."

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Sigh. Love you.

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The humans burn the forest to the ground and encircle it so no monsters escape while they do. 

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Can't fault their tactics.

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Think we should have done something?

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I am managing to counter that thought as it comes up by asking it 'yeah, like what?'.

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Yep. 

 

 

I don't generally experience a desire to make someone suffer but -

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I want him humiliatingly defeated because apparently orchestrating a story of this happening would be out of character for him. And I want him dead after that. Suffering per se unnecessary.

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Very admirable. Are there other stories that would be out of character - I suppose if he tells us of them they're weaker evidence - 

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He mentioned there are emotional notes he's never seen Thauron hit, but that they aren't characteristic of any of the people he's close to anyway. Lamented surrounding himself with - I may forget a word or two - ambitious arrogant something something people -

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I could try being aggressively humble and uninspired at him?

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I suppose it's possible this would briefly amuse him? I don't really think so - he's been fooled, he can't trust himself now -

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Yeah. 

 

If the Enemy wanted him to believe one of the hallucinations he could make him forget the previous ones?

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Presumably.

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So he can't even believe he's supposed to believe this.

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Yeah, it's just as likely to be designed to sound out his reactions to things.

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I bet those forest Elves are known to Doriath and now word's going to somehow reach them.

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We could tell them first, spin it a bit...

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We probably should. I'll go talk to Maitimo. Though there's not an encouraging spin.

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"We tried to help the Elves and Men talk out their differences but the Men were deceived by Gorthaur, it's not their fault, we could maybe get them out from under him with enough help"?

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Does Thingol strike you as a rational, helpfully inclined sort of fellow?

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No, he strikes me like if I met him in person I'd probably want to strike him right back, but it's probably marginally better than "humans are murder-happy pyromaniacs, kill them if you want to live".

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I'll run it by Maitimo.

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Nod. Sigh.

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They tell Thingol. He announces that humans are banned from Doriath and from half a mile of its borders. 

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"Well. At least this way I will never be close enough to be tempted to actually smack him."

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"Please don't smack him. I don't get the sense it would help."

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"I won't, I won't."

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"The Men are pretty far off anyway. I doubt there'll be any in Beleriand until after the war unless we go and fetch them - which I suppose we might, once we've fought presumably-Thauron..."

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"Unless Thauron thinks getting humans to start wars is the most fun thing ever and runs out of wars to start there."

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"My father thinks four more years and he'll have a way to put a dent in him."

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"A large uncomfortable embarrassingly-shaped dent?"

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"This really, really isn't about me."

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"Still."

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A while later the golems report that Men and orcs have been introduced and get along splendidly.

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Well, that's almost nice except for who introduced them.

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Yeah. Also it's going to be increasingly hard to take out Sauron and leave on friendly terms with humans, they seem to be picking up the orcs' cheerful loathing of Elves and stories of Elven atrocities.

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The humans'll get over it. Might take a few decades, but still.

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Is the plan still a forced march into Noldorin custody or should they station enough of the army at the humans' current location that there's no need to make them move?

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Since they can't servantmake it's not strategically essential to control them at all. If they're going to have PR problems making them move is not going to help.

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Well, yeah. But it seems likely the Enemy's play if the Noldor win the fight with Thauron is to invite the Men back to Angband.

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How are the Men tolerating the Charps, as of nowish?

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The Men treat the Charps as curiosities, but there hasn't been any hostility.

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So... Charps can spread alternative perspectives on the entire situation of the war and then that information will at least be available even if they don't believe it.

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Now the Men get hostile to the Charps. Apparently they were warned that the Charps could be mind-controlled by Elves to try to connive to deceive the Men, and when the Charps start doing that the Men decide with considerable dismay that the Charps have been so hijacked. The orcs tell them lots of stories of Elven atrocities to make up for it.

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By the time Kib gets updates on this situation the Charps have already assured everyone that they don't have minds and were made by a human from the lost world but that's probably not going to do any good.

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Probably not. Faster long-distance communication would be really nice but the engineers are mostly working on Thauron-injury and it seems like a hard project.

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And shines are low-bandwidth and need pretty exact information about the intervening distance... ugh.

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The hidden city in the mountains is completed. Ulmo has promised that of all the Noldorin kingdoms it will fall last, which isn't ominous at all, and anyway no skill or magic can find it and it's good to have somewhere to put the civilians.

The humans should probably stay, though, being vital strategic assets.

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Yup. Not going anywhere.

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I'd miss you.

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I'd miss you too.

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It's convenient there are so many other considerations it's not even relevant. But still.

 

Maitimo is a spectacularly devoted and effective and slightly ruthless King. He is not any better.

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At all?

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Well, there are the hugs. There are now semi-regular hugs. Is that improvement? Maitimo certainly wants them to think so. 

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Sort of. It means something that he has the internal resources to pull it off, anyway.

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The Noldor are a very efficient state at war. They now have far more war servants than actual citizens, and can launch a siege of Angband. Findekáno directs it. They encircle the place after five days of fighting. Supply lines would ordinarily be a problem with a siege that far north and into the mountains, but not with war servants. 

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Not really what Kib imagined he'd be doing with his life when he was accepting his apprenticeship, but important. Is this going to interfere with the budding Men/orcs friendship? That'd be a perk.

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Those orcs can't return to Angband, so that's something. They are obviously being directed by someone outside Angband, or else innately have goals very aligned with Melkor's, because they continue being charming Elf-hating assistants to the Men.

Thauron gets the Men literate, gets them building water wheels, is by all appearances interested in having them powerful, and quickly.

I don't really see why. Orcs are in every respect more useful - they can't be suborned, they breed faster...

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Free will?

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...think he doesn't like the destined course of history, and thinks he needs some humans to mess it up?

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Enemy gave me prophecies.

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So he was pretty desperate for things not to turn out - however they originally did. Which is odd, because the way they originally turned out looked pretty good for him to my eye...

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Well, we don't have arbitrarily far into the future...

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If he thought giving you more information would make the ending worse he must have been desperate or stupid.

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And it'd be weird for him to settle for 'different'. Maybe he was able to - pivot off my reacting to it, somehow, and do different stuff of his own -

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Maybe. The equivalent of needing a random seed for unpredictable behavior - but then why bother with nonservant-maker humans now - 

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Don't know. Maybe he's getting updated prophecies and isn't thrilled with those either?

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I hope so. 

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I don't know if that's even how prophecies work. Sigh.

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I should ask if anyone here's gotten any.

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I'd hope they'd have told me, but yeah, I haven't been actually asking.

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If you're not sharing them with people who could change them they can be hard to tell from regular dreams. People might hesitate to waste your time. It's worth asking.

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Nod.

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It's a good harvest. There's a festival. Macalaure, who seems extremely glad of the break from composing songs to speed up chassis assembly lines, has one composed about the rescue of the King. It's good. The dialogue is vaguely suggestive, but musically very impressive, brings tears to everyone's eyes.

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Oh, good, then it will not be odd if Kib can't keep from crying. He's moderately restrained about it, just...

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The lovely, daring, valiant, miraculous rescue of the King, who beams in the moonlight and dances with his little sister.

 

Yeah.

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Aaaaaugh. Can Findekáno slip away after this.

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Yep. He should wait until well after the song's over, since it's his deeds being celebrated, but then - yep.

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Good.

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Hugs.

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Such hugs.

...he thinks he's still there but at least he's wrong.

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I wonder how he thinks the Enemy can imitate Macalaure's composition.

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Maybe he thinks he doesn't have the artistic discernment to identify the real thing or something, like he couldn't understand Fëanáro's work...

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Yeah. Something for anyone else who has occasion to wonder if they're in Angband, though. I think about it a lot. I could tell Macalaure apart from almost anyone else. 

 

Maybe not a Maia, though.

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Which is the necessary distinction.

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Yeah. 

 

There's got to be something - not for Maitimo, but for everyone else now that we know in advance, something we can't fake -

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What might he not be able to fake?

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I don't know. Don't know enough about how he does it. My first guesses would have been osanwe, but he must have a way to fake that, and oaths, but he must just let them really speak those...

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If he has a way to produce the impression that one has just heard a stirring piece of music without actually composing any we're kinda fucked.

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Yeah, and to some degree he must have something like that, I doubt he animates a hundred thousand people for crowd scenes, so he can give the impression you're looking out on a crowd without generating the details, but -

 

- not sure if it's a good idea to ask Maitimo about any of this - 

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Yeah, I don't know. Clinging.

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Very, very much clinging. Feanáro also said eventually after the war he could look into doing something for memory. Retroactive perfect memory, to undo all the tampering at once, hopefully to pull a convincing hallucination Sauron has to erase and reset bits a lot, and so the earlier hallucinations would be immediately distinguishable from this by the amount of tweaking and resetting...

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Might help. Except the Enemy could fake that just by restoring all his memories at once... maybe not the perfect part, that might be legitimately difficult.

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And it'd still mean this scenario had involved no missteps and corrections, that Thauron was either now getting us all perfect on the first try or that it was really us -

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It would matter how imperfect he got us before, just how many times he had to re-run interactions. If he was already pretty close...

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Yeah.

I doubt he was that close if he also persisted in making us rapists.

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I suspect that's what he does when he's given up on an iteration being believable.

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Just, what, for fun?

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Yeah, although whether it's directly or because it's just one of the many flavors of torture he enjoys I couldn't tell you.

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He can never cling to Kib a fraction as tightly as feels situationally appropriate, it'd leave bruises. I sort of want to confront Macalaure about being insensitive but he probably cleared it with Maitimo, Maitimo probably thought it'd be amusing....

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Kib on the other hand can squeeze as hard as he likes. Hilarious.

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Macalaure finds tragedy beautiful, it's not his single most annoying characteristic but it's up there.

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Deep, uneven sighs until he manages to wipe his eyes and not have to do it again.

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He pulls him closer so they can breathe unevenly together. Someday.

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In a thousand years.

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Maybe his father will cook up a miracle and it won't even be that long.

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That'd be nice.

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If there's anyone who could do it it'd be Feanáro.

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Yeah.

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He can't think of anything else to say but he doesn't want to part. So he holds Kib and kisses his hair and replays all the regrets, again, for the thousandth time.

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Snuggles are good.

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Love you.

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Love you. I love you so much.

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The Enemy has better flying golems; they get a lot of altitude and then fold their wings and drop on the Noldorin cities.

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Also indestructible?

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Feanáro prefers saying not-yet-destructible, but yeah. 

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All right, flying defense golems to swat them out of the city airspace, then.

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The assembly lines mean it's not even a catastrophic cost to time.