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Loki goes instantly where Huan tells her. She has a safety against landing intersected with solid objects, her or any of her belongings, so dramatic as it would be she can't just appear with her opponent already impaled. She has to actually stab him.

So she stabs him, spikes him from there. And hollows out Lævateinn and channels ice into the wound.
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The walls stop shaking. Sauron screams in her head, grabs Lævateinn and wrenches it away, raises his hand to send her flying backwards.

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She's over there now and catches the weapon and now she's behind him. Stab. Fighting is so much simpler when you can turn over being where you need to be, posed how you need to be, to a spell; she could do this in her sleep and she can do it while he screams. The spear's still hollow. Ice, asshole, you haven't shattered nearly enough times.

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Everything goes black. The music starts again, but instead of shaking the walls it is trying to stick to her, hold her down.

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She can feel where he's stuck to the end of her blade and tags him with light. Pops to his other side, tries to clobber him to the ground with a polehammer.

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He staggers and turns around and then the whole area around him is on fire.

Real, Huan says.
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"Not fond of the cold?" Loki hisses, and she aims a hand at him and the fire both and sprays freezing crystals.

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All the other effects stop, and he stops moving, face fixed with concentration, but the fire roars up even stronger.

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She can do this all day. Both hands.

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The fire loses a few inches of its radius while he adjusts to that. Then he does, and he's scorching the ground and scorching the air and burning hot enough to melt the ice and he starts projecting osanwë into her head again, not his own screams but Vár's.

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Oh you asshole that's the last thing to get Loki to back off. She takes up her spear again and appears directly above him, feet on shoulders and spear at head and healing spell ticking off twice a second.

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He moves aside impossibly fast, slashing at her as he goes. She might want to heal more often than that, the heat is overwhelming.

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Yeah it's uncomfy. Her armor's going to be in a hell of a state. She heals faster. She teleports into his path and hits him with more ice.

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He - flickers, that's the best word for it, when hit. He's trying to expand the radius that's on fire. He now has red-hot, glowing metal in his hand and lunges at her with it.

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If he's going to use implements then she's going to catch them out of his hand with Lævateinn and go drop them in the ocean and then come back to make him flicker some more. You get to fight unarmed, ice sculpture. (Heal heal.)

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Now he's trying to be four different voices in her head, all screaming, and the city shakes again and suddenly crumbles -

Illusion.

- and the fire has form and closes in on her. That's not an illusion she can tell because she can feel it.
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Well then she's not there anymore, is she, she's over here now, get with the program, Thauron. Would it make it any harder for him to set things on fire if I dumped water on him or not so much.

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Should, but probably only slightly.

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Okay, not worth going and finding a rain barrel under her cargo allowance. Ice time. Lots of it.

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He snarls at her, and sometimes he staggers and sometimes he flickers but there are now four voices competing for attention in her head and the sky goes suddenly blindingly bright.

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Huan, if he keeps doing that my eyes can't keep adjusting, where is he -

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A projection of the location. I can keep it running if it won't be more distraction than it's worth.

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I think it's worth it. Especially with all the bouncing around I'm doing.

She pounces on Thauron. Ice and healing and ice and healing and ice and healing.
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- and flickering and staggering but there's molten metal dripping out of the sky, now -

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What, seriously? Huan?

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It's not metal, but it's not entirely an illusion...

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Okay, well, she can teleport into positions not about to be hit, swat her enemy into the drops, see what they do to him.

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They cling, and scorch, and he has to stop dripping them from the sky in order to shake them off him and aim them at her, music roaring up again to try to slow. her. down.

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Does he think she's fast? She's instant.

For instance now she has her hands around his throat and -

- and why the fuck didn't she think of this before -

- and now he's a bird, crushed between her palms, suffused with ice.
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And now he's not a bird, he's a werewolf, but he's sprawled on the ground and not moving; the song changes, the fire intensifies- and intensifies - how much can she heal -

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She can do it as much as she has to ice ice ice ice ice ice die die die die die

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He staggers to his feet. The ground opens up beneath both of them.

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She gets Lævateinn, pops to the edge of the crevasse, stabs him as the ground starts to swallow him, pitchforks him over to the unbroken ground. And then she's on him again and ice ice ice ice.

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A much much larger crack in the ground, running all the way to the edge of the city -

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She just grabs him in her bare hands and flings him to solid ground, this time, before teleporting back to where she can ice the werewolf-Maia-icecube.

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And a third one, which rips through the walls towards the quarter of the city where the Men are living.

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Are these even real? She doesn't have a counter for them if they are except "kill him as fast as possible", but if they're not she can stop interrupting to avoid falling into the crevasse. (Hurl, away from the city. Port. Ice.)

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Yes, Huan says grimly, and then flames roar out of them and the ground starts melting into them like when water flows through sand.

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Well. "Kill him as fast as possible" it is, then. Lævateinn. Rip him open, fill his fucking abdominal cavity with ice from the inside -

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The ground crumbles into flaming abyss around them and this time when she tries to move him he does not move.

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She heals herself faster, faster, faster, and she exhales ice onto herself as protective coating, she can leave if she has to she cannot be trapped here no matter what he does but oh she wants him so dead -

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The ground is still widening, still widening, he apparently vanishes but Huan's outline suggests he's still there, the sky flashes brilliantly bright again -

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- she's not relying on her eyes, now, just the squish of not yet sufficiently frozen viscera between her fingers and the sensation of burning that she keeps at bay spell by spell.

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And then the world goes silent and the rock claps closed.

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She's barely out in time. Half-melted her armor wouldn't have left her conscious through that.

Where is he?
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Silence. Just a landscape burned and cratered for miles around.

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Huan?

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I can't sense him.

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Did I actually kill him?
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In principle we can't be killed. We can be dispersed so firmly we can never come back together, or even remember that our pieces are supposed to be together. You might have done that.

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Good.

To Maitimo, Am I needed for healing inside?
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Yes.

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In she pops. If it's obvious, she'll go where it's obvious; if it isn't presumably he can deploy her. She pries steaming armor off her arms as she looks for injured.

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He sends her a mental map of where she's needed. This shelter, these people who stayed in their house, these people crushed under the collapse of the wall, this corridor probably doesn't have survivors but should be checked...

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She pops around to each place, heals everyone she sees.

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There are a lot of places. There are a lot of people. After an hour or so - everyone else was stable enough to move and is in the center of the city, you can come in -

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She comes in.

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He glances up, registers her, goes back to giving orders to the several people he's speaking to and from the looks of it also the numerous people he's speaking with mentally. Fëanor is present as well and doing the same thing.

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She doesn't interrupt them. She goes around healing. Teleporting is faster than taking even a single step: she teleports.

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And at last the bustle slows to a manageable pace. The Elves have started singing their funeral songs. I have a list of the dead for you, if you'd like, Maitimo says.

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Yes please.

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Around four hundred. Sixty two are Men.

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She takes this back to their quarter to see that the news is distributed.

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Their quarter has a fair bit of damage, and they're all terrified and glad to see her.

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She is sure the damage will be patched soon. If anybody's home is wobbly or the structure's damaged enough for its illusion to break, they should squeeze in with friends for now. Did she miss anybody injured who was too walking-wounded to get attention before? Everybody know where their spouses and kids are? It's over; he seems to be gone, actually gone this time.

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Families and children are found. There are minor injuries and lots of people whose injuries are probably psychosomatic.

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Well, she can tap them all, figuring out who's actually hurt and who has real whiplash takes longer than poking every presented nose.

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After a while someone nervously asks how long the Elves will be singing.

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They'll probably do it for a long while; it's a funeral custom. Is it bothering them? She could soundproof the singing areas.

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It's sad. But maybe that's okay. Since people are dead and that's sad.

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Yes. People are dead and that is sad. The Men probably do not want to sing for days about it but it would maybe be appropriate for them to think about how they would like to remember the lost.

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They don't really have many ideas. They could name children after them.

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That sounds like an entirely reasonable thing to do. They could write down what they remember about the person's life so it's not forgotten, maybe, and then the children can know one day who they're named after.

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That sounds good, but they don't exactly scurry off to do it. They still stand there near her, anxious and a bit lost.

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She could take dictation, if they'd like to tell her what they want written down?
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Lots of people have ideas for that.

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Okay. So she sits with them writing down the biographies of the dead.

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Maitimo comes by a while later with Caranthir, surveying buildings to see what will need repair. He stops to listen, offers a few short stories, asks that anyone with concerns about their homes take those concerns to the palace.

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That's good of him.

Loki gets paper to attach the bios to. She entrusts them to the nearest recordkeeper, recommends copying to hard copy whenever she's up to it. She goes around making sure any building too damaged to enter has a warning illusion over it in this quarter, then offers to Maitimo that she can do the same in the others if that would be useful.
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"Thank you, but we've already got them marked and you must be tired."

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"I ran a sleep skipper before Thauron even showed up." For pleasanter reasons.

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His eyes glimmer with amusement. "All right. I can't think of anything that requires your attention. I was myself planning after we finished this quarter to go rejoin the funeral proceedings for my people."

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"Okay. If you do think of anything that needs me, I'll be up."

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"Congratulations, Loki."

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"Thanks."

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He walks off.

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And she pops back to the Men's quarter and works through the night.

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In the morning the Elves are still singing, though they've also started repairing the walls. Macalaurë is in fact multitasking on these two things by singing the walls back upright.

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I'm thinking of going and telling your cousins what happened, Loki says to Maitimo. Comments? Other messages?

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We have been in very recent contact with them, I haven't much to add. I do not think they'll ask after our dead, but if they do you are welcome to share the list with them. None of their people were harmed.

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Okay.

And she pops over.
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The camp looks the same as it did when she was here yesterday.

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She demonstrates her ability to turn someone into a bird and looks for somebody she habitually talks to.

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Irissë is sitting in the shade of some buildings with some people she doesn't recognize. She doesn't see anyone else about.

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Well, she supposes she can always just stand in the middle of the camp and casually announce, "So, I killed Sauron, or close enough, and thought you'd like to know."
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That does get people's attention.

Everyone comes rushing out to demand the story and congratulate her and has the battle been named yet has anyone composed an epic about her yet?
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...Not as far as she knows on either count.

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Why doesn't she tell them all about it.

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Sure. Where's Findekáno...? He wanted the blow by blow last time, so...

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He is definitely in the excited crowd, though he looks a little more worried than excited.

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...Well, here is how she as-good-as-killed Sauron with lots of visual aids.

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There are cheers and shouts and would Loki like them to carry her on their hands and shoulders through the city because they can do that, and several people are going to start composing the epics.

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...Sure, that sounds like fun.

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So Loki is carried through the city. The music, while impromptu, is quite good.

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Whee!

You okay? she asks Findekáno.
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Yes. What were the casualties like?

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Your people there are all okay. A few dozen Men, some of the Fëanorian host - Maitimo's fine. I can give you the list if you want it.

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I would. Thank you. Sorry to spoil your moment, if I did.

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It's okay. Uh, I'll show you the list when I'm no longer being carried around.

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Yup. He manages to sound cheerful.

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And when she is no longer being carried around she goes over to him and produces the list.

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Thank you. And congratulations, really, sincerely. It's extraordinary and you should enjoy and be proud of it.

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Thank you.

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And the parade circles Lake Mithrim and Elven singers are doing visual illusions on the waters and converting the waters itself into a prop for their telling, chasms opening in it as they sing.

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Whoa, cool.

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They are maybe a little more enthused than is healthy about Sauron smashing the eight-pointed star city's walls, but it's otherwise a lovely rendition.

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Yeah. That's the part where people died. Loki doesn't comment though.

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And then there shall be an impromptu feast, with food cooked on impromptu bonfires.

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Mm, food.

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And then dancing, and more music that paints pretty lights in the sky.

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I think I'll go home now, Loki says. See you around.

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Bye.

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And she pops back to Himring, makes sure everything's in order.

Pops to the old Men settlement to see if it's been left alone.
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It hasn't; someone lit the whole place on fire. A while ago; things have started to grow in the ruins.

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Well that's just unsporting.

She goes back to Himring. Busy? she asks Maitimo.
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No. And he sends his location.

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Pop. "Men's settlement is torched, has been for some time. How long is it convenient for us to stay? It's spring now, they can get a crop going if I move them now, but otherwise I'd sooner wait another year, maybe bring small batches out in the meantime to work on the place."

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"Are you confident there's nothing else out there that'll give them trouble? The city has beds for everyone; they have as long as they need."

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"I can deal with orcs and Balrogs. What else does he have?"

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"I saw Thuringwethil maybe three, four times? Half a dozen things like her. Who I saw. I was not, in the scheme Maiar use, there for all that long."

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"So maybe I should stick around to see what else he sends after me," she sighs.

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"Entirely up to you. Don't leave on our account; the city can accommodate these numbers and populations of Men don't grow that fast."

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Nod. "Thank you."

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"My pleasure," he says, only a bit mechanically.

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"Findekáno did want the list."
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He smiles.

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She smiles back, and then pops back home.

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The repairs of the city are well underway.

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That's good.

Next time she's at a loose end she teleports to the edge of Doriath. Lúthien?
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Hey!

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Hi! Guess who killed Gorthaur!

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Oh, Eru. I'm so proud of you. How?

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Learned to teleport. Am I allowed to teleport in and out of Doriath or is it too affecting-a-living-thing-y?

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Come to my rooms. Until anyone notices you doing it they can't clarify whether it's allowed. And Mum's distracted. Probably with Gorthaur suddenly dying, actually.

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How would that distract her? Pop.

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I don't know. She tries to keep track of big things, and that's a big thing. I didn't know that we could die.

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Well, he might not be technically dead, he might be something dead-like, but there was another Maia helping me keep track of him through his illusions and he couldn't sense him anymore. He's deader than he was the last time we fought.

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I'm so proud of you.

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Thanks.

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And she bounds through the door into her rooms.

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Hi!

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She hugs her. Hi! Teleporting? In four years? That's amazing.

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Hug! Just tactical. No passengers, no more stuff than I can take with me when I'm a bird, no destinations that aren't on this side of this planet, no targeting a person's location without knowing where they are. And it's kind of a hack job as my spells go. But yep!

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Does that mean the Men are okay?

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Most of them. He made some fissures through the ground that reached into the city and there were some deaths, men and Quendi both. But most of them are fine.

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I'm glad.

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Me too.

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You should relax and stay awhile, I've missed you. Tell me about the Men. Eat something.

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I don't like to be away from them too long, but I can certainly stay for lunch and tell you all about the Men. She pulls out her census, talks about this one and that one and the hours-trading system and the recordkeepers and the werewolves.

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She is an attentive and enthusiastic audience.

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Yay. Loki is proud of the Men.

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And proud of herself, hopefully.

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Yes, that too.

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Lúthien is delighted and hugs her and has songs for the Men if she wants them.

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Ooh, what are the songs?

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She sings them. The falling-asleep one is done for things that aren't Maiar but doesn't yet work on Maiar, she's working on it, and there's a song for a bubble of air around your head and a song for harvesting faster.

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Ooh! Loki records them all. (The sleeping one she can only get as far as the part where she falls asleep.)

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Lúthien didn't consider that problem with a sleeping song. She wakes her up, apologizing, and suggests that they try the second half and see if Loki can fit them together later?

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Sounds like a plan.

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So they try that. It takes some fitting the two sections together but eventually they have a sleep song.

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Which Loki stores in inactive baffled form. Gosh she has a lot of songs now. Now that she can teleport she should start storing backups in various locations.

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Lúthien would be happy to be a song backup repository.

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So Loki writes a list of songs - names in Asgardian, she thinks the oomph song is still slightly secret or something - and attaches a copy of each to its label for Lúthien to hang onto.

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And by then it's getting late and someone brings them dinner.

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Loki stays for dinner and then hugs Lúthien goodbye and goes home for the evening.

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Repairs on the city continue apace. The Elves are helping Men copy their memorial stories. The Elves are still singing.

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Elves and their interminable singing. It's nice and everything but it just goes on and on and Loki will feel weird about tracking down the girl again until she's sure the singing's over.

Next time she's at a loose end she goes and visits the orc colony.
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They're still there, still well, delighted by the gifts she gave them recently.

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Good, good, just checking, she's glad they're all doing well. By the way Sauron's dead.

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Now they're rather awed, though not as intimidated as the first time she told them she fought him.

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Good, she is not here to be intimidating, just to give them the news. He might not be technically dead but she doesn't expect to hear from him again any time soon.

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There is cheering. There is a celebration. They will bake clams on the beach.

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Sounds fun!

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The island still seems to be thriving. They race off eagerly to the waters.

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Loki stays for clams, and goes home.

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The Elven mourning period is five days. At the end of it there is a sombre ceremony at the palace. Fëanor leads it.

Then they throw a party for the destruction of Sauron.
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Ooh!

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It is a pretty exhaustive party. Apparently no one is tired of singing, because there's more singing, and lights in the sky, and they go outside the city to watch the walls being completed by Macalaurë who is obviously having the time of his life, and they march across the ground to the place where the earth clapped shut and they erect a monument there and there is so much food and drink that one is practically tripping over it.

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Well. Loki partakes of party. Maybe she can find that brunette again when the party's winding down.

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She can! She's quite drunk, though. "Loki Sauron-slayer!!! That was amazing. You're amazing. It was pretty hot, too, if I hadn't been terrified, watching you -"

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Oh dear. A little too drunk. Presumably she'll sober up. Or Loki can do it, if she's impatient. "Oh, I didn't realize I had much audience. Did you have a good view?"

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"We were all assigned to the walls. Shoot arrows with the Maia-annoying sigil at him, counter the songs. Lord Nelyafinwë said we were only trying to hold him up about twenty minutes - time for you and Huan to develop a plan, I guess?"

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"Time for Huan to get there; he was away and I couldn't see through the illusions on my own. The plan was pretty much 'ice him again, more this time'.

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"I'm not gonna argue strategy with Loki Sauron-slayer," she says. "Anyway we were his match on the songs and he was hitting the walls pretty hard but they're pretty hard walls and then you took over from there. It was spectacular. The King said, y'know, back in Valinor, he was leaving and the Valar were like 'no, stay, you can't defeat Morgoth' and he was like 'maybe the fire in our hearts is greater than you know, and whether we succeed or fail they'll sing songs of our deeds until the last days of Arda" and he didn't say "maybe help will actually just drop on us from the sky". But. Worked out pretty well. Imagine if we'd stayed in Valinor."

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"Then I would have landed in the Helcaraxë all alone and been very confused indeed, I suppose, and it's anyone's guess which continent I'd have gone to from there knowing nothing about either."

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"I was thinking more, if you came here, and had to do all of this with Elwë for backup. But yeah, that too."

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"Yeah, I'm very glad to have the backup I have instead."

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"Did you try the frozen werewolf snacks? They're great."

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"...The what? I don't think I saw them. Did someone make werewolf-shaped popsicles?"

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"Lord Nelyafinwe by all accounts personally demanded that all the ice around be brought in the day after the fight and had werewolf-shaped popsicles made. I think he likes you."

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"I think he doesn't like Thauron, but the two sentiments may be similar this week."

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"Right, yeah, guess it's personal. It's a good thing the Enemy got him, he's kind of impossible to perturb. If they were gonna get someone, I mean. Anyway, have a popsicle."

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"...Sure." Loki has a popsicle.

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"There's also vodka werewolf popsicles. If you want."

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"I don't like being drunk, but thanks."

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"In case Moringotho comes by personally?"

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"No, if I needed to suddenly stop being drunk my healing spell actually counts alcohol as a poison, but I don't like the state itself."

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"Okay. Bother you if other people are? Because I kind of want a vodka werewolf popsicle."

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"I don't mind being around drunk people, although I do not prefer to stargaze with drunk people."

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"Oh, we can't accidentally get married," she says.

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"Even on my planet, where literally no one can get accidentally married, I prefer not to stargaze with drunk people."

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"That sounds like an adventure," she says. "I think people'd be much less ...behaved."

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"If by 'behaved' you mean 'steering clear of the sort of behavior that gets Quendi accidentally married', then yes. Yes we are."

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"I'm pretty sober."

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"And you will become still more sober with time. Or I can hurry it along if you're in a hurry." She wiggles her fingers.

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She looks at the vodka werewolf popsicles, looking terribly torn. "Would you?"

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Poke.

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She smiles back. "If no one's worried about accidental marriage...why?"

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"Why what?"

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"For partners to be sober. Do people not drink at Asgardian parties? Or not hook up after them?"

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"People drink a lot at Asgardian parties, and do hook up after them. The usual Asgardian line on too drunk is if somebody won't remember the event later that's too drunk. My line is that I prefer knowing that anybody I'm in bed with is very much there on purpose, per occasion, and anything past 'tipsy' makes me uncomfortably unclear on that."

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"And you haven't known us all for five hundred years. Right. Fair."

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"Even people I have known five hundred years, 'per occasion'."

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"I don't mean that if I hit someone up every Awakening festival I don't need to check if she's in the mood, I just mean it's a little easier to tell. It makes sense to be cautious across, uh, a species barrier. And culture barrier. And dimensional barrier, I hear it told."

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"Yeah, whole 'nother dimension. I have no idea why my transport managed to shunt me here."

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"Maybe it figured we needed you."

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"The Bifrost is not reputed to be sapient or to have interdimensional scrying capabilities."

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She shrugs. "Maybe the Enemy tried it and goofed, big time."

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"That'd be funny."

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"Just don't point out to the King that if he hadn't lit the fucking ships on fire there wouldn't have been anyone on the Helcaraxe to meet you."

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"I wasn't planning to, but why?"

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"...because then he wouldn't feel bad about it, and he obviously should?"

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"Ah."

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"See, when I'm sober I have opinions about politics. I would absolutely fucking love to sleep with you, now can I get another vodka pop?"

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"Sure."

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She does. There are more lights in the sky. There's more loud music. She offers Loki a lick of the vodka werewolf pop.

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Loki will take a lick of it. "Tastes like victory."

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"They're calling it the Glorious Battle."

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"Really? That's the kind of thing people name battles and it is not already taken?"

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"There've only been two battles since the invention of writing. We called the other one the Battle-Under-Stars because it was before the Sun and Moon. It was also pretty glorious, but this is better."

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"All right. Maybe I should tell the Nolofinwëans before they get too far on their epics."

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"..bit crass of them, to take five days' head start on writing the epics because we were mourning."

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"If I had known anyone was going to write epics and that five days' head start would matter perhaps I would have delayed conveying the news."

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"How could anyone not write epics? And it's not that finishing first matters, it's that usually you write the epics after the mourning, so starting right away is sort of saying that there wasn't anything to mourn. Not that I blame them, exactly, I just-

See, I think being drunk is more fun."
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"I am sure there exist other ways to take your mind off epic-related etiquette."

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"I can think of one or two."

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"My place or yours?"

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"Mine's under construction."

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"Mine it is." Loki leads the way.

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"Oh, you live near Toyon, she has a stunning voice and they say Men can't do magic but I was curious why not, if they can hit every note we can, and we're giving it a go next week, unless I'm on active duty in which case I guess we'll have to put it off. She's brilliant. Well, hasn't murdered Thauron, you know, but -"

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"Ooh, teaching Toyon magic sounds like a great idea! She's always been fascinated by the song illusions I have scattered around to make magic objects, wanted to hear them go slower. Didn't make any of them work, but maybe you could pin it down."

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"I can't imagine Eru's sitting down there with the strings of creation going 'who made that sound? Man? Elf? Illusion of Loki's?' On the other hand they say he's sitting down there going 'these people who're fucking, are they a boy and a girl. Boom! Sorry, suckers!' so maybe the guy's got a lot of spare time."

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"A boy and a girl Quendi in particular. You are the only people who have this problem. Men don't, Dwarves don't, orcs don't. Maiar I'm not sure what the rules are but they don't always."

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"Orcs don't? Huh. I would've definitely expected them to. And Melian's not attached to Elwë?"

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"Well, I don't think orcs do, I haven't extensively quizzed any - should probably do that before the kids grow up, however awkward it is - but they don't show any signs of it. Melian's one case; I'm not aware of other married Maiar and at least some of them have sex lives."

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"I'm assuming only the evil ones? Since 'do Eru's will' is a big part of the deal for most of them. Also they could just pick a gender combo that doesn't break the rules." They're back at her place.

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Into her place they go. "My evidence here is Thuringwethil, who bills herself as a neutral party rather than an evil one; who mentioned that she could in fact switch gender but said she hadn't, so unless Thauron sometimes went around female..." Possibly this hair over here should be in fewer braids. Yes?

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Definitely. No braids at all sounds ideal. "I'm sorry, I'm going to need a couple centuries to stop being amused at the mental image of Thuringwethil talking about her sex life with you. And a couple millennia for the ice-sculpture werewolf thing."

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Giggle. Unbraid unbraid. Pet pet. Neck kiss.

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Lots of kiss locations. "So you got here from Asgard," she says, "and landed with the Nolofinweans, who presumably told you Elves Never Ever Ever outside marriage..."

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"I got a distinct impression of scary levels of monogamy, yes."

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"It's the law." She shrugged. "When the Valar doomed us all the people I know said 'well fuck' first and then 'well, at least they've washed their hands of us'. Not even sure we paid too much for it. You are one smoking Sauron-killer, Loki."

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"Icy," she says. "I am an icy Sauron-killer."

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At this point they cease discussing politics.

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Oh good.

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The party wraps up around sunrise.

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And this is about when Loki is prepared to produce a kiss goodbye that is actually a kiss goodbye instead of a kiss wander back to bed. (It has been a long damn time.)

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And her companion will delightedly wander off but not before telling Loki that there are a whole lot of people who want a turn and she can arrange to make it a whole lot more if Loki likes and if she happens to get all the way down the list here's my address, yeah?

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Loki thanks her for the list! It is a useful list. Gosh, she might not even have to pace herself too much like this.

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Maybe one more kiss goodbye but it really actually is a kiss goodbye, and she heads home.

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Yaaaaaaay the dry spell is broken. Thank you, she tells Maitimo.

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For what? But there's some accompanying humor.

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My lovely party the other day. I did not remember to thank you at the time. I was distracted. Also I'm told the werewolf popsicles were your idea.

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You put a lot of work into that fight scene, I felt like it deserved some appreciation.

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...I think I felt more appreciated before you phrased it that way, but thank you anyway.

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We're having a meeting this afternoon to discuss logistics and timetables before Father jumps back out of contact. You are invited.

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I'll be there. What time?

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The Men are the only ones who have your clocks. When Father calls it.

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Well, let me know. I'll bring you some clocks.

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Making mechanical ones is on someone's to-do list.

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Speaking of someone's to-do list should I also bring my armor? I'm not sure if it's salvageable but it might be.

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Oh, of course. If it's not we can make you something new, though it'd take about a year for something enchanted really well.

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That'd be nice.

So she gathers up her armor bits into a bundle and spends the morning working on her spell and showing some of the astronomy-inclined Men visual aids about the structure of her own galaxy and has lunch -
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That's a lie,
Tyelcormo says, He's not there yet and will get there last. Do come anyway.
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Which one is named Duilwen?

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Mental map of the palace. Osanwë is so useful.

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It is! Pop.

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Duilwen conference room has a rotating marble table with a to-scale map of Beleriand sculpted onto one side. Tyelcormo rotates the table so that side is facing down and they have workspace, and then waves her over to sit.

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She sits. "Hullo."

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Fëanor walks in a minute later. They settle down around the table and it's evident that they're much better at this with Maitimo on his father's right, that something was glaringly absent from previous family meetings.

"I have retroactive eidetic memory for things read in the last two days," Fëanor says, "tested and rather thoroughly vetted and not trivial to scale, but I think it'll take about a year of subjective time. I've been working in parallel on the dimensional problem and that one is much more troubling. The palantiri seem in principle to be unable to scry there, and I gave them a lot of range; there's no obvious other tests available. The obvious solution is to do the problem differently. Loki, do you think that the information in your brain mostly determines the concepts in your textbooks; that is, if physics were different enough that nuclear weaponry did not work, you would have different information in your head?"
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"- huh, like the mechanism behind my illusions. Uh, I think there's degrees, some of my reading is just vague and some of it's forgotten to the point where I couldn't pick the right answer off a multiple-choice test. I might have enough of the first kind to sufficiently determine the necessary information about nukes but there might be some huge gap. It's also entirely possible you wouldn't get a coherent model extrapolating solely from my memories because I've absorbed simplified explanations, not being a physicist. Many of my readings would have noted that and possibly even how they were simplified, but explanations I heard from people are less likely to have come with disclaimers and I don't necessarily have redundant versions of atomic structure to compare against one another."

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"We also might be able to make some necessary inferences," he says, "presumably someone in your world invented nuclear weapons in the first place. Anyhow, that's one avenue I can pursue; another is to try asking our universe what, if it had Asgard in it, would be in Asgard's libraries; another is to go ahead on the original plan. Each attempt should take me about four years, subjectively, two at full speed."

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"Nuclear weapons have been invented several times but never on this infrastructural base that I know of, but it is possible you could patch an inconsistent physics model. Asgard's libraries would get you more than I know because I did not read every book in them, and if it worked would be strictly better than just turning me into a printer; but from my uninformed perspective it sounds thoroughly insane to assume the universe can answer that question."

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"That we can specify the question well enough," he says, "the universe can answer anything but asking it things is really, really hard. What are typical features of a infrastructure base that invents nuclear weapons?"

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"Factories. Very detailed physics and chemistry backgrounds; I don't think you have to have learned to see atoms, though, just derive things about their structure - although now I'm actually curious how far you can get with an illusion microscope and your ridiculous baseline vision. I think first versions typically involve fission of uranium so you have to be able to obtain and identify that. Um... it has to be bombarded somehow with something, I forget what."

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"I'm going to attempt the approach that patches when it can't source the materials that created a memory by generating materials that could have created that memory and that are consistent with physical law. The more physical law I know the more usefully this will screen, so if you two -" he gestures at Curufinwë and Tyelperinquar - "could spend the next few years nailing down as many of our physical laws as apply to Asgard and working in chemistry and physics specifically, that will help. What's an illusion microscope?"

"Can Dwarves mine for uranium or do they get mortal diseases?" Curufinwë says.

"Does this mean that I"m doing all our magical item production for the foreseeable future," says Caranthir, "because -"

"I'll do it," Maitimo says. "I find it relaxing and with enhanced perception it'll be less tedious."

"Uranium mines," says Fëanor, "what do we know?"
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Loki starts fiddling with lenses, trying to make a microscope behave. "Is radiation poisoning a mortal disease?"

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"Aulë taught us about it," Fëanor says, "which come to think of it probably means Dwarves don't experience it, and it can affect the Eldar but it's nearly impossible, while it has very dramatic effects on Men. Because they don't control the behavior of their own body."

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"Well, my healing spell works on it, and I can teleport occasionally to a uranium mine if anyone's having trouble with it." She peers through her microscope. "I'd want to attach this to some sort of armature to make it controllable, but it should work like this." She scoots it over to Fëanor.

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"Oh," he says, "you can do this with lenses, though you're limited by the precision of your tools. Yes, that'll probably make progress faster, if you can do higher resolution than we can."

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"Might be able to, I don't know how finely you can grind lenses at this time."

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"The Enemy tore up my workshop," he says. "When you blast him with whatever weapons you've developed to do the job, if there's any occasion for nasty comments, you can slip one in about that. All right. I still think we're four years out on something that lets us develop nuclear weaponry from the information in Loki's memory, however indirectly I need that done. Loki, what are you working on, what's the timeline for it, how can we support you?"

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"Next step in the teleportation. It'll take longer than the first part. I have some prioritization to do, actually -" She pulls out a page of notes, forces it from Asgardian into Quenya. "The ultimate goal is for me to be able to fetch things and information from my galaxy and the interdimensional part is as with your project the hard one. I could go straight to that, but I could also detour to adding passengers so I'd be more useful here in the interim - faster, hackier version would just let me have some of my cargo allowance be alive, I could take a few swifts with me that way; longer more elegant version would let me take large numbers of people without having to alter their size in any way first. The question is basically whether it's worth a delay of five to eight years objective time for me to be able to teleport passengers to handle intraplanetary refugee, trade, diplomatic, etcetera situations that crop up in the subsequent ten to, mm, thirty, objective, while I hammer out the dimensionality problem."

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"Can you teleport half a mile above the surface of Angband and detonate a bomb we think we'll have in fifteen years?"

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"Unless it's bigger than yea big," she gestures, "in any dimension, yes, I can do that with what I have now; if it's bigger I need to work the passenger angle."

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He frowns. "Might be bigger. Might be able to eventually compress the needed firepower into that size, but my guess is that first run is going to be big."

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"Customarily you'd also have aircraft, but that would be an entirely separate problem."

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"Heavier than air flight requires denser fuels than we have access to, I did the math on it once. I suppose maybe the Dwarves have something."

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"Possible, I don't know. I don't see an obvious reason you couldn't do a bombing run with a zeppelin, although they're not very fast, might be easier to take down."

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"The Enemy made a serious effort at knocking the Moon out of the sky. He failed rather narrowly."

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"So I should push the passengers angle. Why am I only just now hearing this about the moon?"
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"My apologies," he says, "in Aman I would be drawn out of my latest obsession by nice conferences where we'd listen to each others' talks and hear important information that wouldn't come up through directed correspondence because everyone would incorrectly assume it was uninteresting. We should probably host some conferences. You could teach more Asgardian, I fear mine is getting rusty.

The Enemy tried knocking the Moon out of the sky almost as soon as it rose in it. There was a lot of violent turbulence and when it crashed the first night we thought it was gone for good. We got confirmation from Círdan who'd heard it from Ulmo that that's what happened."
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"I suppose if your project yields Asgardian library contents anyone who's working on extracting information from them will have to be literate in it anyway."

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He brightens. "I hadn't even thought of that."

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"There might be a few things written in other languages - Allspeak is standard on Asgard - but I think even most of the imported material gets translated."

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"That delays us building a nuclear weapon by around eighteen hours, possibly." He smiles.

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"If you wind up needing untranslated materials you might need them from a variety of different languages, and I don't actually know any languages except Asgardian and a little of the Men's language I picked up while their writing was in development so you might have to spend as long as several days deciphering miscellaneous script. I do not imagine this to be a prohibitive difficulty."

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"Languages are a delight. When there is less hanging in the balance I thoroughly recommend learning some. And yes, compared to extracting information from universes with different magic, translating it isn't a problem at all."

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"Oh, and it's possible you'll need to build non-uranium-based weapons because the Enemy has the Silmarils and apparently they block radioactivity? That might add an extra few development steps. Pure fusion bombs are also possible and don't rely on anything radioactive as far as I recall but typically appear much later in a realm's tech tree. Antimatter even farther along. So I don't know that I'd recommend sinking any fungible resources into getting uranium yet."

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"They would stop the wearer from getting radiation poisoning certainly. If a bomb that exploded outside their radius exerted lots of force, they'd do nothing about that."

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"I don't know what the radius of the Silmarils is," she shrugs.

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"Are they visible when you fly over Angband?"

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"I didn't see them."

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"Then they certainly won't prevent us from detonating something above it. Their visible range isn't their decay-canceling range but it's strictly greater."

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"All right, uranium it probably is, then."

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Conversation follows about supply lines, the feasibility of defending other cities, shipping routes, projects with the Dwarves in the works, and eventually what Loki would like to do with the Men.

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There doesn't seem to be any intractable friction from their presence here, although she's sure they'd like to get back to being their own society eventually. Their settlement was torched after everybody was out so there is currently nothing for them to go to. The fact that she can't sense Maiar, however effective she is at killing them once she knows where they're at, is a major drawback to her trying to defend anything being concertedly attacked with no Maiar assistance; she supposes she could try to hire Thuringwethil for a longer-term engagement or something and try to get another Dwarf- and rock-music-assembled city set up for them over a few years (if the Dwarves will extend her credit or declare that her IOU for the science lecture and couriering is valuable, or give her more couriering jobs she can now complete in moments).

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Another advantage to a larger cargo limit is that she can become very very wealthy very very fast by doing shipping among the seven Dwarven kingdoms, come to think of it. The Men are welcome here for as long as it's needed and may use the rock-music-songs to build a new city when seems fitting. They are unenthused about hiring Thuringwethil but suppose that's an option.

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Well, if anybody wants to suggest a Maia who is more of a free agent than Huan or Melian and more with-it than the river Maia she's open to suggestions but it seems like very few Maiar show up to work on this continent.

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Wry laughter. They really aren't sure what she expected from Maiar.

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She expects very little from Maiar, but unless anybody knows how to etch those repelling sigils into goggles or something so she can see them...

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Fëanor is pretty sure he could do it but it'd probably take a few years.

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Then the Men are probably staying put for the foreseeable future unless she works something out with Thuringwethil and develops enough Dwarf-related purchasing power.

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"We came to these lands so we could put ourselves between Beleriand's peoples and the Enemy."

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"I appreciate it."

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"And I appreciate you. I think without you we'd have been a century out on a lot of what we needed to defeat the Enemy. And working without Maitimo."

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"Positive-sum interactions are my favorite thing."

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Logistics talk only takes another twenty minutes or so. Then everyone stands, and everyone hugs their father, and everyone disperses to get back to work.

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Loki goes back and makes it known to the Men that they are probably staying here for another few years at least; she needed help to kill Sauron and help lives here and may be hard to come by elsewhere; but she is going to look into ways for them to go be on their own, it just might take a while. They should definitely let her know if they need anything to be comfy here for the next several years.

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This is okay. It feels weird not being very useful and not growing their own food or anything but it's not bad, just weird.

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She is sure they can find useful things to do. She hears somebody's going to try to learn to do magic music, is that right? And there's other work around; she is sure they can learn anything they'd like to try if they're feeling at loose ends.

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They kind of are, so that's good to hear.

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If they would like to find out what there is to do in a less haphazard way than wandering around and communicating telepathically with Elves who may not have picked up their language yet she can ask!

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That would be great!

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So she asks. Maitimo? Have you got anything useful for Men to do?

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Honestly, no. Once enough people have learned their language I could put them on the regular work rotations but my current vague sense of the capabilities of Men is that they wouldn't be able to keep up? And giving them half-shifts with breaks and arranging for their pace not to matter is more work than letting them be. I can invent things for Men to do if Men require things to do.

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On the higher conscientiousness end - and those are the ones who are not just enjoying the idleness in the first place - they can put in about as much consecutive work as I can, complete with a similar tolerance for sleep skipping and missed meals. You could put them in separate groups if it would be awkward to have them working to different schedules, but I assure you being unable to go without sleep for a week does not inherently make a person useless, they just have to learn to do other things. They can cook; they can learn your recipes. They can farm; they can learn these crops. They can scratch Maia-repelling sigils into stones; they can do it in their apartments if it would irritate people to watch them putting down the tools for a moment to get lunch.

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We have a moving generator-driven conveyor for sigiling stones as quickly as possible. It would not irritate people, it would stop the line. Likewise with cooking; feeding a hundred thousand people is less a recipe-learning problem than a mass logistical dance.

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So it's make-work or nothing?

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I can assign people to teach them things. They could do cleaning and tidying work, I'm just not sure that's any better.

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Some of them might take cleaning work. I'll ask.

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I'll come up with tasks for them, you can see if there's anything you find interesting.

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Don't gum up your logistics on their account; I didn't ask because I wanted help patronizing them.

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The summary will include an account of what resources are needed to support them in accomplishing things, and how those resources would otherwise be spent.

Back in Valinor it was a real and intractable political problem that you needed a hundred years' experience at anything to be good enough at it that it was faster for the
really good people to tell you what they needed than for them to just do it themselves. We no longer have the problem to the same degree, here, but if I had a solution to the expertise gap in my pocket I'd have used it long ago.
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I will see if I think of anything.

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I will send you information that might aid you in that.

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Thank you.

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And two hours later someone arrives at a run along the rooftops and drops a letter at her door that contains a description of things Men could do with their time, how much supervision or what resources he expects it to require, and how those resources would otherwise be deployed. In no cases except cleaning the streets and the palace would the Men be producing something more valuable than the resources (counting Elf time) used, though he doesn't draw attention to this.

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She thanks the courier.

And then she gathers some interested Men and explains that the city was designed to be run entirely by Elves, all of whom have known each other a really long time and don't need as much rest as she/Men do and have not for the most part picked up the Men's language. Any work done in groups is going to be hard to fold Men into, especially since they probably aren't going to stay long by slow Elf standards. The only thing Maitimo could come up with that wouldn't have this problem is cleaning. Everybody likes having clean streets and somebody's gotta do it, but this is not the variety of options she was hoping to have to offer.

They could focus on being useful to each other - babysitting each other's children, making sure there's no conflict escalation when people get into fights, making clothes that suit their own styles better than whatever the Elves have lying around - and she's going to try to think of other things they can do without requiring Elf attention or cooperation and maybe they can think of things too. She might ask some Dwarves for advice too because Dwarves think a lot about problems to do with how to make sure sources of value aren't just sort of sitting around.

Meanwhile, anybody want to study Quenya? It was never very useful when there were only twenty Elves around, but now there's loads.
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They are all eager to study Quenya, and this seems to satisfy the urge not to be idling.

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Okay! She doesn't speak it herself, but here's the alphabet, and the reverse of the phrasebook she gave Maitimo, and their versions of numerals because the Men have been using the Doriath ones, and their Elf friends will surely be happy to help.

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The Elf friends are delighted to.

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Do they have any ideas about the skill gap problem themselves?

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Making Men useful to Elves isn't really a good goal anyway, and it's ridiculous if the Feanorians are trying to hold the Men to that standard. Childhood is a time for learning and exploring, not creating more value than you consume. Has she considered that Maitimo is not a very honest or trustworthy person and probably has ulterior motives?

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She's not sure his trustworthiness is at issue here at all, and the point isn't to make them useful to Elves per se, it's to make them useful to the city they're living in because except for the ones who are yea high they are not actually children and will not be perpetually comfortable as dependents.

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They could be taught any skill that Elves wouldn't have known before coming here, and not be at much of a disadvantage. Making weapons? Or arrows? It's hard to imagine they'd be bad at washing clothes? They could be personal attendants to soldiers and help them put on their armor?

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That last has a language barrier problem. Loki knows how to make bows and arrows, though. She goes and finds the nearest Elven archer to see if there's anything about the bow design that would make the kind she knows incorrect for the local style.

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There are minor differences, but nothing such that she doesn't know what she's doing.

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Cool. She'll just go gather up an armful of sticks and whatnot from the wilderness and pop them back and teach some Men to make bows and arrows to the point where they can teach others. Target practice is to be approached very cautiously, please, she doesn't want to have to come deal with somebody's arrow wound.

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This makes a nice break from learning Quenya, and they take to it with zeal.

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She works a bit and then she does go ask Dwarves for advice. (And to see if they want to let her accumulate a bankroll with quick courier and small cargo transport work.)
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That is appealing but they need to send a messenger at conventional speeds to the other Dwarven kingdoms to ask if they're okay with their locations being given to someone who can teleport. Also, good for her on the teleporting, what a clever idea. Have Elves heard of comparative advantage?

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The Elves may or may not have heard of comparative advantage! She considered explaining it but it seemed like a transaction cost problem to her as much as anything.

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Just like Elves to build institutions with ridiculously high barriers to entry and then end up wasting a significant part of their labor force. Can Men copy books? Copying books should be about as time consuming for a Man as an Elf, and doesn't require much expertise. If Men's books are sloppier and sell for less there'd probably still be a buyer.

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Ooh, that's a great idea, Men scribes. Some of them are learning the Quenya alphabet anyway already!

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Or typesetting for printing books! Elves probably don't have extra practice at that, they probably haven't even invented it.

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She did actually mention the concept of the printing press a while ago but they certainly haven't had it long enough for anybody to have a century of practice at it! Perhaps Men would also pick up electrical engineering decently, that is also new. What good and helpful Dwarves these are, Dwarves are great.

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She just spends too much time around Elves, it lowers her standards.

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That's probably it. Maybe she will visit Dwarves more often now she can teleport. When should she come back to find out if they want her popping around between Dwarf kingdoms? Also, how are the Men with babies she sent down doing?

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The Men with babies are happy enough, and have been mostly too busy to work because of the babies but have had lots of projects suggested to them for when they're not so busy. They're eager to hear how everyone else is doing.

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So Loki tells them how everyone is doing! She will be happy to come by every few days at least to leave and take letters for their friends.

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That's very reassuring.

The Dwarves expect that it'll be about six months to get word from anyone regarding leave to share their location, and eighteen months to get word from the farthest kingdoms.
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Wow, that's a long time. And they don't have osanwë so she can't cut it down for anyone by selling flying lessons either, they wouldn't be able to get messages across once they arrived.

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It's several thousand miles and for safety's sake they don't travel alone and Dwarves do not really ride horses.

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...So if they get an affirmative they'll pay loads for teleported messages, right?

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They certainly will.

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Dwarves: so great.

Loki goes back to Himring and pitches the scribes/printers idea. And sees if the engineer types are chattable about training Men electricians.
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Men scribes and printers sounds lovely, is the answer, though it sounds a bit insincere, and there are daily courses on electricity being taught in the lecture hall south of the palace and anyone who completes the course can get an apprenticeship no problem and Men are of course welcome to enroll.

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Great. She goes and tells the Men the good news, insincerity be damned.

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That is much more appealing than cleaning! The Men don't know enough Quenya yet to have a hope of following an electrical engineering lecture. Writings things they can do.

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And the lectures will hopefully still be available after they've had a while to work on the language. She gives them an electricity-themed glossary.

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They work with it. A few weeks later she gets a notice that one of the instructors is willing to teach the electrical engineering class in the Mannish language, and would be happy to also teach it at half the pace or something if that'll help them learn.

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...she replies that she's glad to hear they're willing to tailor the course to the students as they go. Anybody more interested in electricity than Quenya, there you go, make her proud.

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The course is really really hard, it assumes a fair bit of math knowledge, but the instructor does seem sincerely willing to backtrack and start where her students are. Even if her students can't solve an equation.

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Good for the instructor. (Hey, printer Men, maybe it'd be good if there were a math textbook in circulation.)

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Printing is coming along very slowly, aligning type is still hard. But they'll add it to the list.



Eventually the instructor comes to Loki and says she's given the students a month of exercises and needs to teach another normal-paced course but would be happy to take up with them again afterwards, that one should be concluded in six weeks.
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This does not seem unreasonable. Loki thanks her for the help.

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The Elves are also doing combat training. They're not as dreadful at it as Loki anticipated when she'd heard they'd never fought anything before, but they're far short of Asgardian standards.

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She gives them a few pointers when she's between spellbits.

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And the weeks pass. Stores start opening in the center of the city.

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Oh yeah? What kind?

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Tailors, grocers, shoemakers, glassblowers, ceramics, minor magic items.

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Cool. Would some Men like to operate a store full of telescopes and microscopes and clocks and singing rocks for her?

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Some Men would love to.

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Duping items is fast as long as she has substrates, and only the 'scopes are even slightly complicated to substrate. (Some Men would probably also love to make microscope and more sophisticated focusable telescope armatures than the 'a stick' kind.) Here's a stock. Have fun.

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And now the city square has bars and music shops and restaurants and jewelers, and the Elves seem more at home.

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Good for the Elves.




As long as nothing seems urgent to address Men-wise maybe she should look up the next girl on her list next time she wants downtime.
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The Men seems fine and no one has said anything disapproving about her Glorious Battle festival behavior.

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Cool. So where is this next girl...?

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The Elves have named the through streets and numbered the cross streets and Loki could just go knock on her door but maybe that's rude or something.

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...she has no idea. Maybe she'll find the first one and ask her what the protocol is on stargazing that does not coincide with parties.

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She and Toyon still hang out a lot, easy enough to run into her.

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So Loki catches her when she's on her way out of the Men quarter. "Hey, etiquette question. What do I do precisely with all these addresses if I do not catch their occupants at a party, or do I just wait for parties."

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"Huh? No, how infrequently do you think we - send a note, ask when she's free or something."

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"I had no idea how infrequently to think you. Note it is, thank you."

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"They say there are married couples that settle into a lovely one-a-century. Us, less so, and also we could all die or something that's rather motivating."

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"Gotcha. Wow, those poor married couples, that's pushing it even for Quendi."

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"Think about the folks whose spouses didn't make the trip, huh?"

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"Yeah, that's worse."

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"The King doesn't seem likely to ever relax about remarriage but maybe someday he'll relax on adultery or something, assuming in a few thousand years Valinor is still very much not speaking with us."

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"In a few thousand years I'm hoping everyone can just emigrate to more liberal planets if they like."

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She raises an eyebrow. "If the war is over and we're not needed, visit definitely. But I don't know that he'll be in the mood for another emigration, and we're his, through thick and thin."

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"As you prefer."

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"Catch you later, Loki."

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"Later."

And Loki sends the next girl a note.
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"I'm off early - sunset - on Lokiya, want to stop by then? I got an indoor waterfall in my place, I've had a bunch of people over to look."

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"Oh, they went ahead and renamed a day of the week after me and didn't tell me! Sounds gorgeous, I'd love to have a look."

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"It used to be Valanya. But you know what the Valar haven't done? Fucking anything. Guess they put the lights up."

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A tiny sun and moon orbit Loki's head briefly.

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She grins. "See you Lokiya, then, Loki."

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"See you!"

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Her apartment does have an indoor waterfall, a gentle one with a granite backing. "The prince Morifinwë came over personally in a very bad mood trying to figure out why this complex specifically was using so much water, and I showed him and he agreed it was very pretty and clever and I was on plumbing duty until I learned enough to figure out how to make it recirculating, which didn't actually take too long."

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"Oh, it's an originally unauthorized waterfall."

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"It didn't really occur to me to get authorization for a waterfall. In Valinor you wouldn't have needed it."

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"And there goes its subversive charm, but it's still lovely."

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"Thank you!" Hair petting?

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Sure! Hair petting. Loki is on board with this local custom.

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"I'm not at the point of applying for a sanity exception to these hours, but it's nice to have a break."

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"I couldn't keep hours like you folks do at all, I need too much sleep and food and variety. Species foible."

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"We can't keep this up either. I'm guessing the King means to end the war in fifty years, or the things they're asking of us don't make sense."

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"There's some reason for optimism."

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"It'd be really funny if we pulled it off, because fifty years is only five by the Valinor count and to our friends back home it'd be like we just left when they heard news that we'd - grown into the sort of people who can war with a Vala."

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"How do Valinor years work, anyway?"

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"1728 days, by the old kind of days with the Trees. They go - it's not that they go by fast, it's that they go by unnoticeably. We thought we had forever, there was never any need to make use of them. When the Valar exiled the King was the first time that time was really relevant to my life."

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"That sounds vaguely horrible, actually."
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"It's not as if we didn't accomplish things. You should have seen it; it was beautiful, and every person knew four or five different crafts to the level of mastery, if they had any desire to learn. The only difference was pacing."

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"I'm an impatient person. I wouldn't like my impatience environmentally suppressed."

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"Well, here we're sixteen hours on, eight hours off, a day off once every twelve weeks, and my life is my King's but he sure is asking for all I have of it."

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"Well," says Loki, "I am very flattered to have warranted a spot in your rare time off."

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They kiss.

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Kissing is great. Lots of things are great.

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Sleep is less great, so they don't do much of it.

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Entirely according to plan!

(And in the morning kiss goodbye and a teleport home, no need to do the Walk Or Flight of Not Shame But Potentially Awkward Social Repercussions.)
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And the summer passes uneventfully.

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Except for Loki gradually sleeping her way through the supply of available amenable Quendi girls. That's an event.

She looks after Men and keeps an eye out for useful things for them to do. She goes to the orc colony to double check that they don't do the Elf marriage thing; they don't, and she can reassure the small orcs about that. She works on her spell, aiming for the elegant version over the bird-cargo version. She visits Lúthien sometimes (finds it much easier not flirting with her under the revised circumstances of her sex life), and checks in on Brithombar a couple times and delivers letters to Mithrim and chats with people there. She hangs out with Dwarves because Dwarves are great, and eventually they should have word from the other kingdoms about whether they want teleporting courier service.
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Word takes the expected eighteen months to arrive, and is positive.

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So Loki learns the locations of other Dwarf kingdoms, goes and says hi, and sees what they'll pay her to bop around with messages and smallish things.

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They will pay her quite a lot to do that.

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Cool. Does she have to do anything complicated to keep it all in one bank?

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No, that problem arises often enough there's a mechanism to handle it.

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Dwarves: great.

So she accumulates money.

And she shows up at Thuringwethil's place.
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"That's new," Thuringwethil says when she pops in.

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"Oh, is the news not all over the grapevine?"

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"I can bounce around locally, with some preparation. Can't hop the continent at a bound. Congratulations, by the way."

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"Thanks."

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"Need another favor?"

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"I am here to sound you out for one, although it'd be less of a one-time thing, don't know if you're up for that."

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"If Melkor comes after you personally, next, I'm not fighting him."

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"That is not unreasonable. No, actually the problem is that if Maiar in general come after me with unsavory intentions I cannot on my own locate them. The shadowcatcher only helps to a point. So while I am wanted dead I kind of have to hang out near some Maia, and I have a place to do that but I do not know that it is the best nurturance for the budding civilization of Men, who are even less able than I am to defend themselves from high-powered invasion."

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"Makes me nervous, but I'm not set against it. What are you offering?"

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"I'm sort of unclear on what you want."

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"I want to teleport."

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"I'm working on allowing passengers."

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"Not by holding your hand."

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"It will not be touch-based passenger conveyance."

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"I want to teleport under my own power."

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"Not on the menu."

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"Healing."

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"None of my spells are on the menu, sorry."

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"This is the same problem you've got with Sauron, sweetheart. Your idea of 'trade' is 'you give me something, I don't give you anything'."

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"I'd be happy to give you the healing spell if it were just that but it's intransmissible without the principles used to create it."

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"So what are you willing to offer?"

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"Maybe I don't have anything you want," sighs Loki. "Just thought it was worth asking."

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"You're getting stronger. It's obvious to everyone. You're opposed to everyone else getting stronger. That - makes strategic sense, I suppose, but it does not come across as friendly."

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"I've managed to make a surprising number of friends this way."

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"Great. Go ask one of them to watch your city."

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Sigh.

Pop.

She's sure there will eventually come a use for being staggeringly rich in the Dwarven economy.
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Well, they'll build her a city.

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She can't defend it for the foreseeable future, so not this year, thank you.

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The Men are in any event getting on better in the Elven one. By decree of the King everyone has now learned their language at least well enough to communicate.

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That's nice of the King and his linguistics hobby. Oh, when should she be expecting to produce Asgardian lessons?

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He's going to take another week out of sped-up time this winter once he has non-cross-dimensional retroactive eidetic memory without limits.

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All right, she will have an alphabet and sentence patterns and science-biased vocabulary written up by then.

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And with the city running smoothly, Maitimo is around more, and whatever he thinks about the usefulness of Men he certainly acts as if they are useful, and sends them books to scribe, and barely reacts when someone grabs his arm though there's an air about him such that no one does it very often.

Men can sing magic songs, if they're very careful. Macalaurë is developing ones with better tolerances and Men-sized vocal ranges.
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...If he's not going to ask her to tell the Men not to grab him she will not do so. She congratulates successful magically singing Men. She will happily make recordings for them to learn from without having to monopolize (precious, Quendi) time to study the notes.

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The Quendi are at least making good use of their precious time! They're exporting absurd quantities of magical jewelry and tokens to Tumunzahar in exchange for metals, which they're making into enchanted armor. They've made Loki new armor and Curufinwë has an idea for a project that would let armor automatically heal if her healing spells can be symbolically written into the metal somehow. The gardens are now self-watering, the stores are well-stocked, and rations now include things like cinnamon and coffee beans.

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...Loki can write down her spells but they are very long and the writing does not normally have any magical properties...

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Engraving it won't do it, but there really ought to be some way to combine their magics for this. Does she have a very short useless spell that they could use to try a hundred different approaches without wasting years of time?

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The tiniest piece of spell that does anything at all is still really long, but less so. Will a smidgen of illusion spell - the part that does silence - do, or does it need to be something without a finer-grained will-based targeting interface like a fraction of healing (broken bones is pretty short but, uh, to see if it works someone would need to have a broken bone; there are other less short subsets)?

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Probably better not to try to do will-targeting first; how about a fraction of healing that doesn't require testers to break their bones?

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A bit that will do small cuts is merely "several thick books" amounts of long.

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Sigh. Okay, he thinks there's around a 10% chance he could determine whether her spells can be coded into metal using Quendi methods after a year or so of objective time, is that worth it?

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Factoring in how long it would take her to spit out the symbolic representation of the spells in the first place... well, it doesn't sound very much like it to her but she's not sure of the exact opportunity cost.

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He'd be able to outsource the actual design work, so on his end the time commitment is low, but no, doesn't sound very workable. They'll continue enchanting armor with their own magic.

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Well, thanks for the new set, it's lovely.

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Electric lights throughout the city debut that winter, just a week before Fëanor withdraws from the perception speedup.

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Yay, lights!

Annnnd Asgardian lessons, delivered with Allspeak off. She just sort of blitzes through them, assuming people will stop her if they have questions.
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People ask questions, when she's done, in pretty good Asgardian.

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Wow that's spooky. She replies likewise.

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The memory necklaces, it's revealed, are everywhere and are helping the Elves cheat. There is, it turns out, an Elven linguistics guild, and they're obviously more in paradise here in one of Maitimo's larger lecture halls than they ever were in Valinor.

A week later by decree of the King everyone in the city should be sure they're fluent in Quenya, Thindarin, Mannish and Asgardian. This is of endless amusement to the girls on Loki's list. "I'd call it an abuse of power," one of them says, "but it's not even that, really, it's just a very very different set of strategic priorities than anyone else."

Fëanor is back. He consults with Curufinwë on the armor question and says that he expects it can't be done at all but that he can at least think of a way to check all the possible approaches in parallel in a month's time. He speaks Asgardian with her. He has retroactive eidetic memory with no time limitations but, as expected, it doesn't call back books from Loki's world.
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She still really likes having an eidetic memory for everything since she landed, but it is sort of conspicuously gappy in her case. Alas.

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Can they have tiny-cuts-healing to see if there's any way to implement it that's not in a person's mind? Can she recite any Asgardian music or poetry? Huan's potentially willing to go live on a settlement of Men if she's eager to start moving on that. Fëanor being around means a flurry of activities.

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She prints out the spell chunk in her symbolic alphabet. She can recite a few epic poems (they are about wars) and sing a few songs (many of them lewd). She had been assuming Huan was stuck here, and anyway Himring being without a Maia doesn't sound like an unambiguous improvement.

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Himring has sturdier walls and more people to hold them. Perhaps once Curufinwë's delegated the checks whether Loki's magic can be used in armor, he can go back to those discarded plans for a ring of true seeing that'd spot Maiar. Moringotho, they tell her, she'll see coming.

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With a ring of true seeing she'd be comfortable holding a city on her own against Maiar. (Melkor she's hoping will stay holed up.) "He can't be unobtrusive or he won't bother?"

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"Can't be. The Valar tried really hard, it just does not work. I used to find it kind of entertaining."

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"Huh."

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He sends the impression of what it feels like to be in the presence of a Vala.

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"Wow, that is intensely uncomfortable."

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"Luckily if Melkor comes by you can pop away."

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"Yeah. Hopefully he'll wait until I can pop a cityful of people too."

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"Last time he attacked one of our cities almost everyone got out in time."

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"What're his tactics like when he shows up in person?"

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"In Formenos he brought the creature he'd travelled with from beyond the Void, and she drowned the area in impenetrable magical darkness, and then he told the walls to fall down and walked through the streets crumbling everything he touched and sought out my father, killed him, sought out the Silmarils, took them, destroyed everything else in the house with at least some targeting - valuable things were destroyed beyond generally crushing the place to rubble - and left in probably less than three minutes."

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"Yeaaaaaah that fight's going to have to wait until I have extradimensional goodies."
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"I had planned three hundred years for it. Extradimensional goodies sound even better."

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"I'm excited for that part of this drama, yes."

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He seems to almost want to burst out of his seat. "There's going to be so much to learn."

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"You can spend the rest of eternity trying to keep up. There's a lot of stuff and a lot of people out there. You could probably learn a language or at least a dialect every day and never run out."

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"Then I think first I'll invent a lot of speedups, and then get to a place where I can learn things faster than they're invented." He sobers. "I suppose this world isn't the only one that needs us."

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"Lots to do."

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"I know." He looks delighted by it.

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"It'll be fun."

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"It'll matter. I think it will often be fun, for me, but that's not really the point. I did not promise my people that I'd take them on an adventure, I promised them that we would change things."

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"We'll set you up with an interdimensional Bifrost, turn you loose on the galaxy, see what happens."

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"I'd rather give all of them the means to come here, actually, or wherever we end up permanently settling. If it's all the same to you."

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"Doesn't matter either way to me unless I have to forcibly relocate all of Eru's toys to stop him from mistreating them or something. How come?"

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"I would like to rule over only and exactly the people who want to live in the sort of place I can create. I do not want to try to solve peoples' problems in ways that involve playing Vala. If they are in a worse situation than they'd be in living with me, I want to make sure they can come to my kingdom. If there's a better situation, I hope they go and find it. There's - a lot of mistakes you can't actually make, if you keep things that simple."

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"Admirable principle. Although this does still require bidirectional travel if someone wants to move away."

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"Yes. But getting people the means to get to safety first."

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"Depending on how interdimensional Bifrosts or whatever wind up working might not be much order of operations to worry about."

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"One of the reasons I'm putting so much effort into the armor project though I really really do not expect it to bear fruit is that there has to be some way to do your sorcery with objects and we could do it in a cryptographically irreversible way so no one could learn sorcery from the objects and then we could just drop a ring of teleport on everyone, everywhere."

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"Ooh! I mean, in principle there does have to be a way to sorcerously enchant objects, other sorcerers who do it the unwieldy way can make magic things, I just haven't delved into it; but it'd scale up if you could do it your way."

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"I promised Maitimo I'd figure it out. After the war, though."

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"Yeah."

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"Anything else?"

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"Nothing comes to mind."

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"May your talents make your fortune fairer, then," he says, and leaves.

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Loki continues bopping around visiting places between chunks of work. Orcs and Nolofinwëans and Doriath -
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Where it has come out, predictably, exactly what transpired a few years on the shores of Alqualondë, and Thingol has responded by evicting his niece and nephews and banning the speaking of Quenya anywhere in Beleriand.

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The ban is loosely enforced; anyone known to have associated with anyone speaking Quenya is not allowed into Doriath, but they mostly weren't allowed in anyway.

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Well, she should tell them not to speak it in her presence.

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While she's still in this awkward grace period of being allowed in Doriath she bids Lúthien an awkward goodbye.
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Lúthien can make her mother fall asleep. It takes about twenty minutes of sustained singing and the intended effect is very apparent by minute ten, so it's not much combat use, but she can do it. She bids Loki goodbye.

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Hug.

And vanish. To communicate this bullshit to the Quenya-speakers.
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Maitimo is surprisingly placid. "All right. I don't think we can ask the Men to learn Thindarin so we'll switch to having official proceedings in Mannish. Are Quenya loanwords going to be a problem?"

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"Didn't think to ask."

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"Do you have all our Thindarin names down? In case it comes up with Melian."

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"I have a chart somewhere." She pulls up her chart. "I didn't ask if names counted, though."

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"I'd expect they would. It's a symbolic gesture; names are powerful symbols."

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"It's an asshole gesture. Well. I'll try to remember."

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He almost smiles, at that. "We killed people. He's being a jerk. I don't think - anyway, it's Maedhros. In Thindarin."

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"It's on my chart."

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"You losing Doriath as a fallback is not worth making a stand over even if we were entirely in the right."

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"I know, I know." She shakes her head. "I can't even tell if people are speaking Quenya to me or not unless I pay very close attention."

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"I imagine he'll soften with time. But on our scale of time."

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"I hope to have the wherewithal to completely neglect Doriath's fallback status before he lurches around to that. I'll miss Lúthien, though."

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"Once the war's over perhaps he will be less protective of her."

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"Maybe. Or she'll get fed up with it."

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He nods."Thank you for informing us. I don't think conveying our regard to Thingol helps anything, but our compliance, if that satisfies him."

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"Next time I drop by." Sigh. "I'll tell the Nolofinwëans too, I suppose, does anybody else speak Quenya?"

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"Everyone in Valinor. I doubt Thingol minds them and I doubt they'd care and I doubt anything good would happen if you popped over there."

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"Yeah, I think it only extends to the one continent and I'm still steering clear of Valinor."

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"In dire need - if Beleriand fell, say - you should have it in mind as a backup; the Enemy can't get to it, and the Valar are sufficiently slow to act that they might not notice you for a year, and then they'd ask you to come to a trial."

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"What are their trials like?"

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"Civilized. When my father threatened Nolofinwë- I don't actually know how his name ought to Thindarinize. Golfin, I think, but calling him that would annoy him - anyhow, they had a trial and it came out that both sides had inaccurate beliefs about what the other ones were planning so they interviewed people for months and unravelled all of the lies that had been planted between us and then reached their verdict."

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"I have no idea how you derive Golfin from Nolofinwë," she comments. "What would they be trying me for?"

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"Entering Valinor without leave, probably. And if you care, the Quenya N became the Thindarin G and they drop vowels at the end of syllables and the -wë word ending."

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"Gotcha."

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"Findekáno's going to be Fingkon but that's an impermissible consonant cluster and also sounds ridiculous, I don't know how he'll resolve it.

Valinor is a last resort. But it's one I wouldn't expect to be lethal for you."
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"And here I've been assuming that they'd probably smite me instantly."

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"If you march up to them and speak your mind, maybe. Don't do that."

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"I'll pretend they're my mother."

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He nods. "It might be these walls will stand until we have our bombs, but I honestly do not expect it."

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"You think Morgoth's going to storm up in person, or that there will be a flock of Maiar I can't wipe out before they overtake the place -?"

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"Morgoth once took form as a volcano."

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"...Well. I do not think I am big enough to freeze a volcano or that figuring out how to turn twelve feet tall would cut it."

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He nods. "Ergo all this discussion of fallbacks of last resort. You teleport out."

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Sigh.

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"Anything else? I am rather busy."

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"That's all." And she pops to Mithrim.

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No electrical lights, but they're thriving too, taller walls built into the mountainside and the camp rapidly expanding to accommodate locals.

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She demonstrates her credentials and goes to inform Nolofinwë of the language thing.

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He'd already heard, from Artanis and Angaráto when they were kicked out. "Thank you for letting us know, though."

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"You're welcome. What should I be adding to my name chart?"

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"I'm Fingolfin," he says, "apparently." And he tells her all the others, as well.

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Chart chart chart. "Stupid fucking way to make a stupid fucking gesture," she mutters.

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"On a scale of stupidity from one to my brother's original decision to storm the beach armed and steal the boats..."

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"Would you like me to swear about that, too? I can."

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"I doubt you'd come up with anything we haven't."

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"There you go, this one I can get in on the ground floor." Sigh. "Messages, anything...?"

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"We were using Sindarin a lot anyway, the locals have a harder time learning our language than vice-versa. If it's convenient for your purposes you can truthfully tell Elu that we're conducting everything in Sindarin, ideally not in a way that implies we acknowledge him as king of the continent."

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"Will do."

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"Thank you, Loki. Is all well, other than that?"

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"Yeah, other than that everything's situation normal."

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"I am glad to hear it. We've been vaguely troubled at my brother's communications."

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"Oh?"

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"By 'we' I mean Finde- Fingon, who reads more into them than I can and gets more of them in the first place. If there's nothing of particular concern back home there's probably nothing of concern to read into the letters."

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"Okay. Where is he, should I say hi or leave him be?"

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"Suppose he'd appreciate hearing all's well. He's probably furnishing the newest fortress -" he sends a location.

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"Thanks."

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The newest fortress is built into the mountain pass and overlooks the plains of northern Beleriand. Even Elven eyes wouldn't be able to see Himring from here, though. "Hi," he says.

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"Hi. Is it just me or is the name change business an aesthetic step down?"

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"It sounds ridiculous, doesn't it? My cousins really want to maintain a relationship with Elu and I'm the one who murdered their relatives so I can tolerate an annoying name for a few centuries. If it's even that long. I think Maedhros is glad. 'Maitimo' means 'well-formed one, beautiful one' and every time I spoke it he looked vaguely discomfited. And I am not going to call him Nelyo like his family does."

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"If I had to change my name I don't think I'd do it phonetically, I'd just pick something. If I were in a really pissy mood I'd suggest Elu could call me 'princess' in whatever language amused him."

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"Artanis did that. She's going by "Galadriel" now, which is quite pretty. We take chosen names to have a great deal of significance, so choosing one to annoy Elu would also be an act of significance. And I don't bear him any ill will. These are the ripples of a tragedy of our making, and they'll heal with time."

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"Oh, 'Galadriel' is quite pretty. Chosen names are pretty uncommon back home but don't mean anything much. 'Princess' would not be a name, just the title in lieu of going by a new name."

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"While it's tempting I think I will avoid the cascade of political catastrophes that would result if I asked Elu to call me 'princess'."

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Loki giggles.

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"We're pretty sure we can hold the pass against anything short of Morgoth, which means everyone fenced in behind it has a little more room to move.

How are they?"
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"Switching to Mannish for official business rather than making the Men pick up Thindarin. It is a little awkward that they're doing this in large part because I need the backup option of being able to teleport to Doriath, but..."

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He raises an eyebrow. "That's a share of our reason, too - the Sindarin locals we're allied with need a fallback of last resort, even if we ourselves cannot have one..."

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"Yeah. Failing Doriath, Ma- Maedhros says I should try teleporting to Valinor, where apparently it might take them a year to get around to trying me for being in Valinor without permission. Although the south continent is habitable and empty. Not sure how likely Morgoth is to chase me there."

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He frowns. "Might be safer. Is - all well with my cousins?"

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"...far as I know? Your father said you'd been reading into the letters, I don't peek so I don't know what you're picking up on..."

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"Maedhros is being very Fëanorian at me, in the us-against-the-world way they get when they decide that the occasion calls for choosing between those things, and I cannot piece together why but I've been anxious."

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"I have no idea what that's about. That's concerning."

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"Yep. If all's well at home that can't be it. Maybe he's just in a mood."

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"Do you want me to ask? Or, I suppose, convey a letter in which you ask."

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"I have asked. A dozen different ways. I have not gotten an answer, which could mean that there isn't anything or that he's decided to lie about it."

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"Huh. If I figure it out I'll let you know unless there is some reason not to, I suppose."

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"Thank you."

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"You're welcome."

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He gestures vaguely in the direction of Angband. "And good luck."

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"Thanks."

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He drums his fingers on the ramparts of his fortress and doesn't move until long after she's departed.

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And she goes home and gets back into her routine.

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A year passes. A few Men have managed to pass electrical engineering.

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Good for them! She is proud.

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No one speaks Quenya around her, though she's pretty sure they're still speaking it the rest of the time.

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Well, as long as she can tell Elu that as far as she knows nobody has spoken it to her she certainly doesn't care.

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The Elves are too busy to interrupt her, though always ready to talk if she interrupts them. They've grown grudgingly enthusiastic about Men doing printing.

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Good. (She encourages Men to pick up other skills as interest them, though she does not solicit institutional help in making this convenient at Quendi expense; but they will be older and less negligibly experienced with time.) The eldest Men's children are old enough for some systematic education to stick, that should be addressed in-species to the extent possible, make sure they all know how to read and have things to read and can shadow people at useful occupations.

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Fëanor is not set to come out of accelerated time again for two more years.

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Isn't anybody weirded out by seeing that little of him? Huh.

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Elves. And he responds promptly to written inquiries, and issues relevant and timely rulings. And his sons make up for it by being everywhere; she sees them several times a week. They flit between work crews filling in for people, they buy things at the stores, Maglor holds concerts every month. The general consensus is that the King is in any event good at engineering and Maedhros good at king-ing so the division of labor seems very fair.

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Well, that's true enough.

She works. She wants to be able to get this entire cityful of people - maybe the city too, she's not sure yet on feasability there - dropped on the south continent if needs must.
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Maedhros constantly resists the temptation to point out that with the memory necklaces, they could already all do that if Loki actually preferred they be able to. He does not give the slightest indication of holding this opinion, except in the tone of long letters to Fingon who probably knows him well enough to notice there's something.

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Well, she's not a mindreader.

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And he's very decided against drawing Loki's attention to the fact that, one, she considers them having potentially-limitless powers to be an unacceptable risk, and two, unless she is planning to seal them off from the galaxy Fëanor is really guaranteed to at some point have potentially-limitless powers.

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So about the spells. The meanings of the letters wouldn't take that long to transmit, it's the spell text that would be a major outlay. I could maybe give you the spell texts to memorize and then in case of emergency just have a short packet of information to send so you could use them.
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And you wouldn't decline to bring back from Mandos anyone who knew too much, or anything like that?

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Not unless I had reason to regret telling them what the symbols meant and no more humane way to address that.

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How long would it take you to communicate meaning of symbols if, say, Morgoth came here?

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I gave Lúthien one of them. Took about half a second. What I don't know if how long it would take you to correlate the meanings with the spell text.

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Hmm. So lower bound of two minutes, upper bound unknown with no good way to test it. Even two minutes is probably too slow if the outcomes we're really afraid of come to pass, and it'd mean you had to stick around when for your own safety you should probably instead be acting during that time. I am not sure it's worth it.

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All right.

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There's been encouraging progress on artifacts for true sight, you should stop by sometime so you can get the update from my brother.

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Sure, when's convenient?

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I'll ask him to get in touch with you.

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Okay. She waits.

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Curufin gets in touch that afternoon. They are making progress on true sight; the range is only a hundred feet, at the moment, and the complexity increases with the cube of the distance, which is the worst kind of algorithm that commonly crops up, they're looking for a more efficient one.

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That's still way better than nothing, since she can pop around a hundred feet at a time.

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Well, it's all hers and they will continue work on it. He expresses this a little distantly. They could probably get it up to a thousand by brute force.

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"...thanks. Are you okay?"

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"I am, thank you. I'll continue to keep you apprised of our work."

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"Okay, thanks."

And back to her own, goggles on her person at all times.
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They don't interrupt her, though occasionally there are packages at her door for transit to Mithrim or Tumunzahar.

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Which she will happily pop wherever they go.

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The Nolofinweans ask about rings of true seeing. "I'm not sure what answer I expect," Fingon says. "Maedhros has been exceptionally conciliatory, but on the other hand -"

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"Well, I'll pass it on." She does.

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"Our pleasure," Maedhros says, "though they can't teleport with them, they'll probably want to trade these out for the better versions as soon as we have it."

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So Loki delivers some true seeing and this message.

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Fingon sighs. "Thank you very much. Are you all right?"

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"They've been acting sort of weird around me, I don't know what it is."

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"Helpful as ever, but managing to constantly give off the impression that it's a chore, insisting if pressed that everything's well and the only reason they want you to go away is so they can do you another favor?"

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"...pretty much. Which, I mean, I don't need all these people to be my personal friends but I'm getting tired of not being able to tell."

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"That is what I call 'being Feanorian at you'. And it is annoying and you're justified in feeling annoyed. I don't think they do it manipulatively, if that's any help. I first saw them do it towards the Valar, once the Valar announced that leaving Valinor was wrong and agitating for it was antisocial and disruptive behavior. It would have been to their advantage to be civil, really, but instead they all withdrew. Maedhros will stop it if you indicate you've noticed."

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"What will he do instead?"

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"Uh, probably not what he did with me. So I'm not sure. Be your best friend, maybe."

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"Position's occupied," she snorts. "By someone who does not be Fëanorian at me even if I don't indicate I've noticed."

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"In that case he'll probably just revert to being warm and likable and so open with you that you end up feeling like intimates." There's a bit of an edge in his voice. "They may just be stressed by the war."

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"It hasn't been particularly stressful of late, or anything..."

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"Irissë- ah, Aredhel's favored approach was always to get drunk enough she had social cover and then slap them in public at a festival. That usually worked."

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"I don't want to hit them."

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"What do you want? They are clearly wholeheartedly dedicated to winning this war, they are clearly happy to share everything they develop towards that end, they are being annoyingly themselves and will stop if asked. I know how unpleasant it is to be on the receiving end of, but there isn't much to be done. If it's clarification about whether they like you that you want, I think the answer is 'no, they don't'. I apologize on their behalf. They're idiots."

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"They didn't use to do it to me, though. It's fine if they don't like me, but it's confusing if they used to and stopped. Since I didn't slap any of them or anything."

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"Slapping them wouldn't do it anyway. Did you do something that made them feel that their goals weren't compatible with yours?"

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"...I don't want to hand out alphabet sorcery? But I offered to give out spell texts and hold the symbology for emergencies and Maedhros turned me down."
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"I wouldn't expect that to - what did you say, just 'my magic is private thanks' or something?"

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"I can't give out the spells I have in a usable form without giving out the means to invent more."

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"...and you're worried about them having a kind of magic that can be expected to work outside this dimension?"

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"No? If I had standard issue sorcery to hand out I'd give it to them. My kind just gives extremely fine-grained ability to turn time into any infinitely usable power you care to design."

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"And you got it by accident, in your world, by touching a powerful artifact as a small child. I assume that's not the only way that kind of power can conceivably be acquired?"

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"I'm pretty sure my exact thing is unique, but there are indeed a variety of ways to acquire power. Also the artifact is supposed to be sapient so I'm not sure 'accident' is the word."

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"So, for the record, I wholeheartedly endorse you not teaching your magic to them and would be horrified if you had done. But 'Loki is willing to handicap us in this war because us having potentially limitless power is an unacceptable outcome to her' and 'we are predictably inclined to seek limitless power and have other avenues and she'll surely notice this at some point, or already has and is just using us to take down the more immediate problems before she stops us' is a more than sufficient explanation for you getting Feanorianed at."

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"...I fully expect the Fëanorians turned loose on my galaxy to be a force to be reckoned with, but my galaxy can sort of... absorb it? That kind of power level is a known, balanced factor; I am not the strongest thing around; I might not be even if I collected all the infinity gems and they did whatever I asked. And I can't bring them there to be absorbed yet."

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"So then just tell them that. Because I doubt they know enough about your galaxy for it to have occurred to them. Their reference point for power is the Valar. We were all in the habit of making ourselves smaller to fit into Valinor."

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"Oh. Okay. Will this cause Maedhros to act insincerely syrupy at me?"

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"If they don't think you are using them as weak as you can get away with to win the war and planning to cut them down so they aren't disruptive afterwards, I expect he'll be sincerely charmed by you, because you are amazing and have done a lot of things that he specifically would have tremendous respect for."

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"Okay. Thank you for cutting through this misunderstanding for me."

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"I apologize on behalf of my idiotic relatives."

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"...Because they're not overwhelmingly likely to do it themselves?"

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"They would not consider themselves as having anything to apologize for. In this case."

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"So, yes."

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"I apologize for my idiotic relatives."

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"I accept your proxic apology."

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"It's good to have you, Loki. Not just as an outrageously powerful force for our side, either." He sighs. "Good luck with everything."

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"Thanks."

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He starts on magic item distribution.

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And she pops back to Himring.

So I mentioned to Find- to Fingon that you've all been acting weird, she says to Maedhros, and he concluded by asking me a remarkably small number of questions that the problem is that you think the reason I'm withholding alphabet sorcery is that I'm deliberately keeping you crippled and intend to 'cut you down' when the war's over so you don't go poking infinity gems or whatever takes your fancy in my universe, but he thinks you will take better to the actual explanation that my universe can absorb substantial numbers of ambitious high-powered people because there's plenty in the mix already and the problem is that I can't actually bring you there yet.
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I didn't think it remotely likely you'd kill us after the war, he says. It did occur to me to wonder by what avenues you expected to make sure we didn't pursue potentially limitless power. If you think that, given your alphabet but no innate memory or indelibility for it, and all our current priorities to distract us, we could become unbalancing faster than you could develop interdimensional travel, you are actually in fact overestimating us, but people don't do that often and I think I'll decide to be flattered.

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I have no avenues by which to make sure you don't pursue limitless power. You're probably above-average holders for it in many respects. Interdimensional travel could still take longer than I expect and your father binges harder on accelerated perception than I do.

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In that case I extend my sincere apologies for 'acting weird', he says, and shall devotedly return to treating you like you're likelier than not the Enemy but if you're not are delightfully committed to murdering him and getting our world out of the hands of its fate.

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Thank you. Should I relay this to those of your family who have also been acting weird or will you pass it around?

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I already told everyone.

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Thanks. Are there any other potential misunderstandings that can maybe be cleared up this simply, lurking around?

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You mean, best characterized by "if our fears are justified, drawing them to your attention makes the situation much worse?". I expect if I find myself in a situation like that you'll have to rely on Findekáno or someone else who loves me and does not really care about my goals.

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...Well, I didn't mean quite that specifically, but okay.

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I'm a big fan of communication, and usually do clear things up unless there's that kind of drawback.

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Okay.

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My father studied under Aulë for a hundred years. When the Valar made it clear that there was - a limit, on what it was tolerable to them that we become - it felt like your parents telling you they'd decided to keep you a child, you were so cute that way.

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...I can't imagine either of my parents making that specific mistake but it sounds unpleasant.

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It was. And only to us, so oddly isolating.

Did you ever want to finish that game of Governor?
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I'd given up on it, but I do still have the notes.

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I don't think looking over this schedule a third time will produce any new insights. And the only other thing I had for the evening was writing long letters to Findekáno, but he can get a short one.

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If you would like to play Governor I am game.

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I would.

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Pop.

Here's all their notes.
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They play well into the night.

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Loki loses - narrowly; she thinks under other circumstances presenting Maedhros's interim governor with his long-lost daughter while her black ops team held the cure to her illness hostage would have worked. "This is a good game," she pronounces.

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"I would be in favor of playing it as frequently as you benefit from breaks from work," he says.

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"Sounds fun. When are you most relevantly botherable? I think my schedule flexes more than yours."

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"Evenings are best for me. The city actually mostly runs itself, I only keep long hours because I ask it of my people."

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"Then I will poke you when I am taking an evening break. Could up the scale. Asgard versus a postwar Arda."

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His eyes light up. "Yes, let's."

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She laughs. "See you."

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"I see you around anyway! I shall dye my hair some more dramatic color so you recognize me." It's a vibrant red.

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It's really weird that he can just turn the charm on and off but he's so damn charming when it's on. "It's no good, I just don't see that well."

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"The best thing about this war being over will that it will be impossible to say things like that within earshot of my brothers without an enchanted pair of lenses arriving on your doorstep the next morning, which generally sharpen and enhance vision and also announce me specifically whenever I appear within their sights."

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"But will I be able to see ultraviolet?"

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"You can't? That's an easy fix, they could do it for you even with the war on."

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"...Nope, still can't see ultraviolet. Or infrared. I'm sure they know that, it came up fairly early in my time here."

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"Huh. Maybe it's a harder technological problem than I thought. I'll suggest it to them anyway, as an apology gift."

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"It'd make my illusions more convincing."

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He blinks. "Curufinwë says it's somewhere on the priority list but if they'd put two and two together and realized it'd fix your illusions it'd be much higher on it and you can't actually have it in the morning but within the week, certainly, with his apologies."

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She laughs. "I haven't actually had that many occasions to need to fool somebody with fake ultraviolet, but okay."
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"We could have had a dozen illusory cities, just to waste the Enemy's time! Or you could go rebuild one for the Men, have the illusion of a populace hurrying along in patterns sufficiently complicated that casual surveillance won't catch it, see what comes after it."

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"I mean, the fact that Maiar contest illusions would seem to be the main prohibitive factor there."

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"Only if they realize they're such. But yes. Well, you could use it to make my buildings look like they're not all oddly uniform in temperature."

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"Only once I have an idea what temperature variations buildings normally experience. But yes, sure."

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"I don't think I ever thanked you enough for that. People are in marvelous good spirits, living here, despite the hours we're all keeping, and I think having the city be beautiful is a big part of it."

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"I think that's a Quendi thing. I mean, everybody likes pretty stuff, but the place would have to be a lot uglier than it is under the illusions to actually demoralize me, or, I think, Men."

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"It's definitely a Quendi thing. We - wither, in ugly places. I'd sooner go without food than live somewhere ugly."

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"Well, that's also a species thing, the ease with which you short rations."

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"We have some advantages. We'll see how to reverse-engineer them for everyone else without the disadvantages."

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"Good plan. If anybody wants to try on Asgardian brawn I hear Odin has something for that, but it seems to be a package deal until you stand near a Balrog..."

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"Are you sure you aren't innately strong, being a frost giant? Anyway, I'd genuinely be delighted to meet your mother but I have promised some people my time once galaxy-hopping is a forgiveable use of it."

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"Asgardians are actually stronger than frost giants even though frost giants are generally bigger! Have to compensate for the frost magic somehow."

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"In that case I will indeed talk your mother into sharing. I think being - less vulnerable - will be something of an obsession of mine for a little while."

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"I mean, she probably won't share, that was a joke. But I'm sure there's other ways to boost yourself."
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"A joke? I took it as a challenge."

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"Oh, right, forgot who I was talking to. Well, if by the time I can get back to my galaxy I am welcome on her planet I'll see about introducing you."

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"Thank you."

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"You're welcome. Well. I need sleep, unlike some people." And she pops home.

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Their next game of governor is a few weeks later. She wins.

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She brags to Fingon next time she's over there.

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He might be a little bit jealous. Just a little bit.

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Awww.

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The letter he gives her for Maedhros might be really long.

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...Okay. She doesn't ask, just raises an eyebrow.

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"I told you I'd scheduled five centuries for sulking? Looks like he's going to be better before then, and it'd be convenient if I compressed all the sulking so we're over our problems at the same time."

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"And you sulk via long letters?"

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"I settle the things I'd have been sulking about via long letters."

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"All right."

And she delivers the long letter.
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Maedhros looks quite delighted at it, and while he makes no effort at all to hurry her out his eyes keep flitting to the paper like he'd rather be reading it.

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She has Elven vision goggles that also have the improved true sight written into them.

He beats her in their third and fourth game of Governor, but in the fifth she pulls a series of brilliant moves that he insists are the best he's seen from anyone and wins, resoundingly.

Fëanor slows himself back to normal perception. He's close, he says. He's confident it will work.
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She likes her goggles! She fixes the temperature of some buildings. She enjoys Governor very much. And she's super excited about the library.

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A snowstorm leaves the streets buried in fine powder. The Elves walk on it and get annoyed with Men and Loki for walking through it, it's so pretty undisturbed!

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Hey, if somebody wants to hand out magic snowshoes...

Failing that: no, you do not get to confine people to their houses because they don't have your snow-walking ability.
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No one can figure out magic snowshoes. The snow melts soon enough anyway. There is icicle swordfighting. And then Fëanor says to her - "it's done."

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"Cool. How does it work? Should I give you a tour of the virtual Library of Asgard?"

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"That one's too hard, this is just 'library of things Loki read', with some weird filters such that some of it may actually be a bit off but it should be most definite in the areas we care about most."

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"Okay, well, that's still a lot of books. How will it materialize?"

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"In your head, regrettably. I have lots of blank books you can copy things to."

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"Okay. I will resign myself to being a printer for a while."

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"I could have had a nicer version in six months. Didn't seem like a wise tradeoff."

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"Yeah, it won't take me six months to get the physics books out. I will spare you the extraneous literature."

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"Please don't spare me it," he says earnestly. "...though let's kill the Enemy first."

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"When we have killed the Enemy I will produce as many Asgardian romance novels from my reading history as you can tolerate but I am not in the least confident they would be to your taste."

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"It'd be sociologically interesting if nothing else," he says, "the Eldar can't exactly retrieve the norms surrounding love and marriage that we had before the Valar enlightened us, and we can learn from looking at Men and Dwarves but I'm not sure we're intended to be like them - people keep petitioning me to Do Something about your Men, incidentally, but I'm trusting you that all children are growing up with loving parents whatever bizarre depravities the adults get up to in their free time? I'd enjoy Asgardian romance novels. Well, two or three of them, enough to find patterns. When the worlds are all safe and the wars are all over."

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"The children are all well looked after by various combinations of loving adults," Loki confirms.

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"Then the next person to waste my time gets less of it off to waste."

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"Good."

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And he leaves her to be a copier for physics textbooks.

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She copies physics textbooks. Particles! Waves! Forces! Interactions of these things with various kinds of galactic magic in general and non-alphabet sorcery in particular!

She can do a couple pages a second, stamping illusions as fast as she can turn paper.
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That means they'll have enough to go off by the end of the day.

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She can keep going past that so they have spare references. She's read a lot of science in her lifetime.

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She can generate books in a quiet room next door to the conference room where fifteen or so Noldor are learning them, so they can bother her for missing bits of information if there are any.

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Sounds like a plan.

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When she is done generating books they will still be learning them.

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She wishes them all speed on that and goes back to her standard pursuits.

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A while later they ask if they can have some of her fabulous wealth to hire Dwarven surveying and mining operations.

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Sure.

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The Enemy attacks a few months later. It cannot possibly be meant to destroy them - just, one assumes, to demoralize them. Three hundred thousand orcs, racing out of Angband down the plains in a terrible mass of blackened armor and pale, childlike faces under the helmets.

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Can she get them to go away if they're just blinded and deafened, like that one time.
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Nope. They fall over, obviously, and trample each other. But they must have specific orders to keep going, because they do.

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I can just kill them all. Anybody have a better idea?

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Nobody can think of a better idea.

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Ugh.

So she goes out and kills them. It's time-consuming and horrendous.
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Afterwards, the Enemy sends the bat-things she remembers seeing in Angband when she rescued Maedhros. They feed on the corpses. They don't actually bother anything else, but the Elves still shoot down all the ones who get too close.

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What even are those?

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Thuringwethil would know, I think? I think they were a project of hers. Maedhros gets exceptionally grim when his job mostly involves standing on the walls of his city staring down hundreds of thousands of corpses.

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Lovely.

...Why not. She pops over to Thuringwethil.
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"Hey, baby. Think of anything to offer me?"

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"No, I just wanted to know what the bat scavenger things are called and heard they were a project of yours. If you don't want me popping by to chat I can stop."

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"Nah, it's the highlight of the Ages. The bat scavenger things are only eating dead stuff, right? I worked pretty hard on that."

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"Yeah, just dead stuff."

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"Oh, he decided to start a fight with you? That's just mean. Sorry, sweetheart."

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"It wasn't much of a fight, but they wouldn't turn around."

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"He does not actually create orcs fast enough to continually occupy your waking hours by having them senselessly march to their deaths on you. For what that's worth. Also, the orcs don't have a great way of verifying which Maia is booming orders in their head, if it's one they know we work with, so I could tell 'em to go home and they'd probably believe me, though he'd just turn them back around again so I'm not sure that helps you any."

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"If I ever need some of them delayed a bit I'll keep that in mind."

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She idly twirls a strand of hair around her finger. "The Elves think it's a kindness."

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"Killing them? I'd probably agree if I didn't know I could heal them."

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"I don't think they want to die. Hard to tell because the oath sort of - encompasses it - but I don't think so. Are you just here to ask about the bats? They won't harm the living, unless Melkor figures out some clever way to alter them."

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"Yeah, just asking about the bats, not like it took me hours to get here."

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"Suppose not. You're not having nearly enough fun with that, you know, if you haven't seen the whole world. It's beautiful. We worked hard on it."

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"I just can't get over how it's supposed to be a sphere like any self-respecting planet that comes about the long way."

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"I like it flat, it means I can see all the way to Valinor from here."

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"There is that, I suppose. And no fussing with time zones now that you have a day cycle. But it's just so silly."

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"Takes all kinds to make a galaxy. Time zones?"

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Visual aids. "Spherical planets usually orbit stars at a considerable distance, and turn around so half the planet's facing the star at any given time. Exceptions exist, but this is standard. So it's night over here," point, "and day over here."

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"D'you'know if the Ainur are even going to work on other planets? We draw ourselves from the fundamental nature of this one."

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"Good question. Not sure. You might be stuck. Well, in this neighborhood, anyway, I don't know about this planet in particular."

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"Damn. Well, I suppose there are lots of ways to keep this one interesting, especially if people from your world can still pop in."

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"I'm not expecting to depopulate the stupid cylinder," Loki says.

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"Aren't you? You're picking a fight with the Valar, sweetheart. Those rather depopulate the vicinity, at a minimum."

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"My really dramatic option is to move the entire cylinder and not bring any Valar along."

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"...if you move it to a universe that doesn't follow the laws this one does, I think we and the Valar may not be able to come along. I'm not even sure we'd continue existing."

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"Well, I could leave Maiar behind, too, although I'd have to apologize profusely to a couple people."

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"Maybe there's a way. I'm thinking about it."

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"I'd be intrigued to hear what you come up with. Anything else I should know about the scavenger bats?"

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"They make me stronger, I can control them remotely although it requires most of my attention, their bite is probably very toxic to incarnates but that shouldn't be a problem because they only eat dead things."

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"Thanks."

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"Any time."

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And Loki pops back and delivers this information to interested parties.

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Several people are mildly nervous that the bat-scavengers with a dangerous bite are under the control of Thuringwethil, but not superconcerned, they are in any event easy to shoot down.

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And if anybody gets bit Loki can almost certainly fix it.

...Hmm. She has read a lot of books. She's discharged all the relevant science books onto the Fëanorians but there might be demand for others, in translation especially. Any Men really fond of languages to the point where she could give them an Allspeak-translated Asgardian dictionary (...based on a local Mannish dictionary; she has not in fact ever read an entire dictionary) and some grammar lessons and then set them to producing translations of this-and-that whenever she wants to spend twenty minutes turning pages? Econ. Architecture. Maybe somebody wants to read Asgardian history. Novels. Maybe not so much the romance novels. Poetry. Travelogues. Weapons-irrelevant science and engineering.
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There are people intrigued by the idea, but not it turns out capable of learning Asgardian just from a grammar and a dictionary, and translation is really hard.

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Yeah. Well, maybe some Elves who've picked up Asgardian literacy want to translate things and then at least the printers will have more to do?

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Poetry and engineering! The Elves are delighted.

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...and if any Men who have reason to talk to her anyway would like to do so in Asgardian that's fine by her. She's read a lot of books. They're not going to run out soon.

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Melkor tries the heavy cloud of smoke thing again, the one that shrouded Angband the first time she visited it. It rolls slowly out across the plains.

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Ugh. That stuff's poisonous if it's the same kind as last time, FYI, she can turn it invisible so people can see through it but it's still no good to breathe and she doesn't have a counter for that. Can anyone invent mass production of the gas mask... kind of fast...?

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Inventing things fast is a strength of theirs but, um, they haven't even had a chance yet to get the needed materials for refining plastics, making things airtight is not a problem that has ever come up. Activated charcoal they can do, her books say that's an ingredient, does she want to go find rubber? A lot of rubber?

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Well, with her brain library she knows what a rubber tree looks like, she can go hunting for them in likely-looking climates, but she can't field-refine the trees or bring that much back at once -

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They're trying a lot of different airtight sealants. Nothing is mass-producible on the scale of 'next couple of days'. The Elves want to send out some scouts to see how long they can survive in the gas cloud with nothing more than fabric-and-baking-soda air filters.

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...Well, if any of them are in trouble and need her to pop in and heal them they should let her know at once.

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Yes, they wouldn't be attempting this without healing. They ride out to the edge of the cloud. They give it a go.

Elves, it transpires, can cope indefinitely with mildly poisonous gas if they can constantly replenish the fabric and baking soda and maybe keep concentrations down inside their homes. Manufacturing something for all the Men is less insurmountable. Though still not coming along very fast.

Loki, Macalaurë says, wind songs are ones for which volume matters. And pace. Can you come listen to one?
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Yes. She comes at once.

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He starts singing right away, adds comments without losing the notes at all. The problem is that wind songs create whirlwinds, not fronts of wind, I can disperse it a little but I can't push it back, I've been trying to think of a way to position a number of sources such that they collectively push back but I haven't got that yet -

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I can move them around however seems to be helping. While they play, if they can catch the smoke and pull it away - She records as he sings.

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It's not a long song, by Elven standards, and by midway through their hair and clothes are being dramatically tossed around by gusts of a whirlwind.

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When the song stops does the wind disperse promptly or do I need to worry about creating a tornado?

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You might create a tornado. Compounding weather songs at full volume outside is stupid and reckless, which is why I'm not already much better at it.

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Eugh. Any tips or should I just experiment?

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Experiment somewhere away from the city first, maybe.

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Sure. I'll go tear up that southern continent desert a bit.

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Have fun.

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So she goes to the southern continent desert and whips up a whirlwind and sees how well she can steer sand around with it and how loud makes it reluctant to slow down once she breaks and baffles its song.

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There are a few tornadoes but they are easy to stay out of the way of.

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And if she does sub-tornado-level music and just has several little winds moving around...?

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They disperse the air. They don't move it in a specific direction, not very well.

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Can she by any chance fiddle with them to get one tornado to cancel out another one spinning the other way?

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Tornadoes jump too much and move too fast for this to really work, though the effects are pretty spectacular.

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Damn.

Momentarily out of ideas, she pops back in case anybody needs to be healed from a slipped breath mask or something.
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The Nolofinweans have an insulation enchantment for cloth they used to get across the ice. They shared it rather reluctantly, apparently, but now there's that and it allows for slightly better breath masks. Maedhros is in favor of sending Morgoth a bunch of tornados. Curufin thinks that he can come up with a way to modulate the frequencies of the songs to get a directed effect. Everyone's very very worried about the Men, especially with the young children.

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Well, she can make a shit ton of healing rocks to compensate for her not being able to literally be everywhere at once. She hopes Curufin gets somewhere. In the meantime she sits on the wall and makes a little progress against the oncoming smoke, what she can confidently handle.

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Curufin gets somewhere. He comes out to her with an absurdly complicated diagram - "this is all drawn on things in your wave interference physics books, so thank you for those" - showing how she could do shaped baffles for each songs and different periodicies and frequencies to get the effects to be - well, not unidirectional, but at least "all directions but this one", so smoke could be encouraged to travel around the city.

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...Okay. She's going to go test this in the desert with kicked-up sand to make sure she gets it right.

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There are no tornadoes and the kicked-up sand mostly moves in the right direction. Only mostly, but better than last time.

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She practices a bit, then pops back and gets underway. Time's a-wasting.

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It is turbulent and loud and deeply annoying but this can funnel most of the smoke around the city, sort of, after careful placement and some tweaking.

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She can keep the sound from getting in at full blast.

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And make the smoke invisible, for morale's sake? Though people might not know about it, or the young children might forget, and sneak out - maybe she could turn it swirling gold and silver?

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...Yes. She can make the smoke glittery.

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Himring is surrounded in glittery smoke. The Elves decide to call this good enough and throw a party.

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She will have to touch up the smoke occasionally - she got it all by making it invisible almost as far out as she could see with her enhancement goggles, and re-visibling and glittering it in advancing layers from there - but she can spare a little while to go to the party.

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The theme of the party is that Morgoth sucks and is too scared to come out and fight them face to face. This seems like possibly an unwise party theme, but they're quite into it.

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Well, is it likely he's going to see it?

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No one knows how he gets his information, but no, probably not.

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Then this seems like a fine party theme to her.

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Everyone is wearing glittery outfits and a lot of jewelry and the dancing is masquerade-themed to accommodate the fact it's still wiser, with most of the smoke diverted, to wear facemasks.

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Loki's just spamming healing spells on herself whenever uncomfortable. She'll do her outfit in illusion.

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She has pretty much gone through the list of available Quendi girls but there are still certainly lots of dancing partners.

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Dancing's fun even when she's not picking anybody up.

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Two days after the smoke crawls over their corpses, the orcs get up and start marching on the city again.

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Thuringwethil said he couldn't actually do anything with their souls.
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That's right, Maedhros says. If you don't go to the Halls of Mandos Melkor can get you, but he can't give you a body - and not en masse, not remotely, even if he's found a way around that - they are, for whatever it's worth, probably not alive at all -

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Zombie orcs. Grand. Catch some to study them or just cut them all down and burn the bodies this time as long as we've got a smoke diversion system underway?

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A few to study would be very interesting but I assume he can still see through their eyes.

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I never actually bothered to take the darkness off said eyes...

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In that case, sure, bring a few. This city does not have prison cells. His tone is a bit clipped. Silly oversight, I'd say, but it wasn't.

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Okay.

So she goes out and cuts swathes through the zombie orc army and burns them as she goes with the fire song, tasting sour smoke and clearing the poison out of her; and when she's near the end she wrestles a few down and ties them up and drags them between the whirlwinds.
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He comes out to meet her. The orcs don't answer questions, but could have been ordered not to do that.

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She makes herself a little ice cube to rinse the smoke taste out of her mouth. Let me know when you're done.

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You going in?

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Do you need me here for something? Are they going to morph into something worse than zombie orcs? I'll come kill them when there's nothing more to be learned but I don't have any avenues of research of my own here.

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We do not require you for anything, no.

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So she goes in and waits to be told they're done with the captured zombie orcs.

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And a while later - We're nearly certain that they're not sentient. Just being moved externally. You don't have to come kill them if you'd prefer not to; we can do it.

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I'll come; I can drop a fire song on them so they don't get up again.

Out she goes.
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We also have fire songs, you know, he says. You do not have to bear personal responsibility for this.

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I have the easy prepackaged version. Besides, I want my string back. She dispatches the zombie orcs. They burn. She collects her string.

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Destroying all the orcs takes longer than killing them did.

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That's probably the point.

She gets back to work.
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If the smoke doesn't stop, Maedhros says to her a few weeks later, we are going to have a food shortage. We've cut all the Elves to quarter-rations, which will mean it takes longer to be acute.

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And turning it invisible won't help because the real light won't actually hit the plants. Ugh. I can try putting more whirlwinds around but this might already be pushing it. Is there a 'light song'?

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In the works. Maglor may make song development seem effortless but it actually takes several decades ordinarily, and we didn't exactly have any need for anything that'd be a building block of a light song in Valinor.

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No one will actually starve to death while I'm here. I can heal a lot of people if they can line up and walk by. I can probably even multitask it. But it's hardly ideal.

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How far out is larger cargo loads?

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I was coming at the problem from a better-final-result, fewer-interim-milestones perspective. At this point switching tracks on that probably wouldn't even gain me time. At least four years, maybe more, but then to about the same scope as I can illusion things I'll be able to move them around, and people too, although I could not teleport this entire city to another continent without some injury to the plumbing et al.

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All right. We'll import food. Thank you.

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Go ahead and dip into my money if need be for that, I'll tell the Dwarves. There keep being advantages to having me here, even with the goggles I'm not seeing it as viable to move everybody out before I'd have time to earn a new city-building fortune anyway.

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We've made the same calculation with regards to splitting into more kingdoms. We want to do it, we regard it as morally urgent, but it's just not immediately viable.

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Yep. When we're less under attack.

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The right way to do something like this would be to have six or seven kingdoms with internal freedom of movement. Then I could be as authoritarian as I pleased with rather less guilt about it. And I think my people would still stay.

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Makes sense.

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After the war.

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How goes weapons development?

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I think they understand in principle how nuclear weapons are created. I think there are still technical challenges beyond acquiring the materials. This isn't something we do all the time so I can't give you a timeline. Got a site where we can test something once we have it?

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If I have cargo before you have bulky prototype bombs I can get you some lovely uninhabited south continent desert.

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We're also going to be doing bomb assembling, once we're far enough along on the technical work, in the desert east of here rather than anywhere near Himring. For safety's sake. We've been telling everyone the work is happening here. Can you make the workers invisible in a way that doesn't make it inconvenient for them to work?

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I mean, I could make them invisible and then they could put on gloves, but no, the illusions aren't subjective, they won't be able to see themselves.

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Illusion that section of desert? If no, we may just have to work underground a lot.

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I could put a "roof" on the area of desert, but - Similar issues compared to the hidden valley she was pitched years earlier, maybe more tractable in a desert locale but not hardly foolproof. Better with the infrared and ultraviolet, though.

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It's fine if he thinks we have a hidden city there, as long as he doesn't think we are building this kind of weaponry there.

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I can put a few decoy roofs up too.

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And have either you or Huan on the spot to kill anything that tries to come by.

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Is it in osanwë range to call me in or would we be taking shifts?

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It's around two hundred miles, two fifty. Perhaps you should find whoever here you feel most intimate with and spend more time with them.

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I still don't know if that actually works normally for people who don't have their own osanwë. And I talk to you more than anyone else telepathic, although some of the Men's helpers could give you a run for your money there.

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I can hear all my brothers from there, so we could have one of them there and then relay through me to you.

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Sounds like a plan.

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I have an idea for a new game setting, next time you're free.

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Ooh?

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Everyone has powerful magic, society is mostly kept under control with extensive use of very tightly worded loyalty oaths and everyone in charge still gets assassinated a lot, has teams of people sworn to avenge them.

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Interesting. This is both teams, set up like this?

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I'd need to be more familiar with the setting to have a fair playing field that wasn't roughly equal capabilities.

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Makes sense. I'm game.

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Findekáno mentioned, in his last letter, the talk you gave them, about what would have happened if your sister'd been the one dropped on them.

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I mean, I was speculating, but - yeah. What about it?

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He was very apologetic that it hadn't - already occurred to them to think about it in those terms, what did they really want, would they be happy if they had it - but I don't think people are as good when in pain and it would have taken extraordinary goodness for them to think of it. I am very grateful for all of the mending you did, and not just because it lessens the burdens on our conscience.

And I really want to meet your sister.
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Well, if we're on speaking terms when I've revisited the circumstances of my home planet I will introduce you to her too.

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I'm trying to imagine the stir it would have made in Valinor if, exiled for a hundred twenty years, my father had come back having saved another universe, learned to teleport, commanded the most powerful artifacts of your universe, killed some gods, and brought some immigrants. I do not know if Asgard is comparable.

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Where'd the hundred and twenty figure come from? And you forgot 'turned out to be another species'.

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I did. That's how long he was exiled from Tirion; we did not manage to make anything so interesting out of the time, just lots of engineering papers and the undying loyalty of our people.

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They're very undyingly loyal. It's sort of weird. Anyway, it has already been noted that I am impatient compared to Quendi.

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And you are not in Valinor, which is fond of letting its days slip by without anyone noticing. Are people in Asgard not particularly undyingly loyal to your mother?

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Not like that. She's quite popular, people certainly do what she says, but I think their loyalty would run out under tests that your people's would survive.

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It's the deep-seated conviction that someday my father will be a god. Makes my life rather easy. Except when I disagree with him.

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Odin already wields vaguely incalculable power, just sparingly.

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In that case I can pretend it's entirely the force of our personalities.

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I'll be curious to hear your updated judgment when you've gotten a less outlying source on Asgardian culture and met my family.

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I actually wonder if it's related to what you've called the extreme Quendi monogamy, though monogamy isn't really its notable feature. Persistence of deep and unconditional loyalty.

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...Could be.

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I should let you work.

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Let me know when and where you want illusion roofs.

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I'll start designing it at once.

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And she gets back to work.

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A while later he has a series of illusions for stages of construction of an uninteresting outpost in the desert. Actually, for ten uninteresting outposts in the desert and another thirty scattered across the continent. "Seemed safest."

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"Delightful."

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"I know your time is valuable. I hoped it might be a diverting break from spell-research anyway."

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"Yeah, it won't take that long with the designs prepped anyway. Do you want them all at once or spread out over a couple weeks?"

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"Might be suspicious if they all go up the same day, but if that's easier for you don't worry too much about it."

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"No, spreading 'em out works for me, short breaks rather than killing half a day on it."

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"Perfect. Thank you."

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"Should I put the closest ones up first so it looks like people are spreading out from here?"

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"That would make sense, yes."

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"All right. You want status reports as they go up or just one when they're all done?"

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"If my scouts are competent I'll hear about it anyway." They at last have gas masks sufficient for some people to venture out. "Don't bother about status reports."

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"Okay then."

And she goes and does a batch of three, and then continues in similar-size batches one a day until they're all done.
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And shortly after that, a hundred or so people gather in the desert under an illusory city to figure out how to build a nuclear bomb.

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Good luck with that.

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"Talent, we like wishing people," Fëanor says. "Not fortune. But thank you."

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"I wish you cooperative neutrons and no accidental detonations. I think it's even less likely I can affect your talent by wishing about it."

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He shakes his head, but not particularly with annoyance. "I'd expect that being wished good talent from an early age affects talent in the society with the habit."

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"Calls for a controlled study."

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"Once I have enough subjects and enough land to divide them all into non-interacting communities and impose rules like that I am going to have so much fun."

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Loki cracks up.
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They send her regular bomb progress reports, though they're very hard to follow.

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A bit, yes. Although she does remember all those books now. She skims them.

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Three years out, one of the reports says, once they have their supplies and enough handle on the problem to start making predictions like that.

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Just close enough that she probably shouldn't turn it into a race... although their prediction might be optimistic. She puts in more hours. No Quendi girls left to pick up.

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The smoke drifts away over the winter. Morgoth sends orcs out onto the continent, but from other angles, leaving Himring a wide berth.

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Loki takes the whirlwinds down when they no longer serve a purpose. Is it a good idea to have bird scouts following orcs to see what they're up to?

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Orcs seem up to "wander, settle, have children, lead normal lives," unless they happen to run into Elves, in which case they invariably ambush and try to kill them.

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Ugh. Loki warns the converted orc colony and Brithombar that regular orcs are colonizing in a southward direction.
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Good to know. The converted orc colony volunteers that they could take a few orcs who are sworn to the false Melkor and keep them out of trouble, since there's no way off the island. But not more than a few.

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Loki will notify Brithombar of this offer, in case they wind up with live captives.

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Círdan nods seriously, wishes her well, notes that Ulmo is troubled.

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"Troubled?"

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"Having a hard time seeing the future and worried that it contains even greater griefs than the ones in the works last time he could see it. I think."

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"...I have free will and have been very busy, I think that might interfere with local varieties of future-seeing but I don't think it bodes ill."

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"That'd do it," he says wearily. "May the stars light your way."

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"Thanks." Home she goes.

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They need more people at the desert facility, building the factories for this stuff is going to be absurdly hard. Can she help smuggle twenty thousand people over there over the course of six months?

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She can turn them into birds and meet them there and turn them not into birds!

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And now there's a massive desert uranium-enrichment program, still hidden under illusions.

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Does being out twenty thousand people make Men any more economically useful?

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It does! Now would be a great time to train a lot of Men in managing the food distribution and water systems.

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Great. There are Men to be had. And other Men to babysit the kids.

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The Elves look at children of Men with a strange mix of exasperation and envy.

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If Elves would like to help babysit the kids that's probably okay with some of the parents, as long as nobody is telling these little ones that their parents' lifestyles are depraved, that's just not cool.
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There is some brief consideration of babysitting for the children of properly married couples before Maedhros issues a decree that people with any constraints on which children they're willing to babysit can't babysit because it makes logistics orders of magnitude more complicated and the children surely aren't contagious.

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Good for you, Maedhros. Besides, it wouldn't do to have the children told that their friends' parents were depraved either.

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"The House of Fëanor," one of her Elf assistants with Men complains to her that evening, "is just delighted with depravity. It's probably why they stole the boats and killed innocents and then burns the ships. Tyelcormo leaves parties with men, you know."

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Loki raises an eyebrow. "Am I supposed to be scandalized?"
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"No. But the next time they kill a bunch of innocent people, you shouldn't be surprised."

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"Are you expecting Tep and Riaz to kill innocent people? Tep can't kill mosquitoes."

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"Men are different," he says, "in lots of ways, probably also that one."

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"All I have on that is your assertion."

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"You think I'm lying about what the Valar say?"

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"All right, all I have on that is the Valar's assertion."

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The point can't really be argued further.

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Yep. Just keep not getting your opinions on the Men, various Elves. And then you, too, can hold adorable children and let them grab your nose.

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Which is a very popular pastime; there are far more babysitters than people who require babysitting.

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Maybe this should be represented as the rental of children.
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Elves will in fact pay for the privilege of child-borrowing!

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Awww. The Men had an economic niche all along.

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Maedhros does not indulge in any child-borrowing - "I already raised six" - but is happy to integrate Men economically otherwise, now that they're going to be here for the long term.

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Good, good. (Loki's not particularly mad for children herself.)

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Eleven years after the first sunrise of Middle-earth, Elves enrich uranium.

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Congratulations, Elves!

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They are going to need a whole lot more of it.

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Loki wishes you talent, Elves.

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The Elves wish Loki all speed on her teleportation with more cargo, since that'll be needed to test this thing once they've built it.

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She's working on it!

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Winter, summer. Forty thousand people now at the site out in the desert. They're spending their way straight through Loki's fortune.

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She supplements it whenever Dwarves want things bopped around.

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Winter, summer. The Enemy doesn't try anything.

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How polite of him.

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The Elves think they have enriched enough uranium. There have been some minor radiation accidents that required a call out to Loki for immediate healing.

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She pops out on request. Boop boop boop.

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But she doesn't have cargo teleportation yet, so testing this is going to be interesting. They could pick a spot in the desert, but the Enemy might see it. They debate just delaying until she has cargo teleportation.

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Maybe she could bring it in parts and assemble it there...?

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The assembly is - well, not the hard part, but certainly a hard part.

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Well, how long will it take them to explain it to her so she can pull it off and what are they going to learn from this test?

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Whether it in fact goes boom, how much damage it does if it does. She's really really not going to be able to assemble it on her own.

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Well then. She's expecting cargo to click in another half a year to two years.

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Well, enriching enough uranium for another one is going to take at least that long.

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Work work work work work.

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The Nolofinwean residents of Himring have picked up that something is up, and politely enquired. Maedhros has deflected them.

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Loki will obey the need-to-know policy on this. Fingon can guess, probably.

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He does. "They're fast," he says, the next time she sees him, apropos of nothing. "It's been less than two Years as we used to count them."

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"They are very fast."

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"I'm not sure if it's because it's so desperately needed or if this is the pace they want to spend their eternity at."

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"I told Fëanor that with access to my galaxy he could probably learn a language every day and not run out and he said he'd have to start by figuring out a way to go faster."

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"It's not Fëanor I'm worried about."

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"Well, he's the one I have a charming rapidity-related anecdote about."

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"He tends to drag rather a lot of people along in his wake."

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"I've noticed."

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"Your teleportation has annoyingly obviated face-to-face communication with cousins. Well. Send them my regards, let them know that if there's anything we can do - short of ordering all our engineers over there, I expect they'd be needed but they'd want an explanation -"

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"Sorry. The side effect didn't occur to me. Soon I'll be able to do passengers?"

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"Doesn't give me an excuse. But thank you."

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"Me and Maedhros haven't tried the four-player Governor version yet, I could rope you into that?"

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"You haven't? It's a much better game for four. Um. I'll mention it to my father and see how far he raises his eyebrows."

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Loki giggles. "I don't know who the fourth person would be but I'm sure there's somebody."

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"Maedhros usually plays with his brothers. He and I on a team is unfair; he can read me perfectly, every time we've played I've been accused of passing him information through osanwë."

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"Oh dear. Does that make it a problem to have you on opposite teams too?"

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"Surprisingly, less of one. I'm mostly constrained to plans where I won't be damaged by the fact he can see them coming; I still sometimes beat him even when he's trying to win."

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"...How concerned should I be that he's been throwing half our games?"

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"The thing to do with Maedhros is to sit him down and say very stenly 'you are allowed to manipulate me for the greater good but not just for your amusement' and then he will do his very best to stop. Restraint is not in the Feanorian skillset so he won't stop perfectly but he'll try very hard.

I doubt he's been throwing games; your world has more intrigue than ours, you have a much richer corpus of intrigues to play from."
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"All right. It would annoy me if he were throwing games."

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"That's another reason to think he's not doing it; he wouldn't want to annoy you."

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"Well, it's possible he'd think I wouldn't find out; if he has been throwing games it's been very subtle."

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"But eventually you'd probably ask him and - well, once upon a time I would have finished that sentence 'he wouldn't lie to you'."

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"...I'm not going to lie detection song him about it but I could do so in principle."

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"I also wouldn't put it past Macalaurë to have built a Feanorian exception into his song."

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"Wow."

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"Even I know how to do that. Instead of having the song check 'is truthful'? you check 'is truthful or is speaker of the house of Fëanor', and the latter is much easier to specify magically than the former, it would barely add any complexity."

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"Well, I'll bear that in mind if I ever want to verify their honesty on something more urgent than their Governor-playing habits."

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"Remember when we first met, and I told you Maitimo lied constantly and in particular with smiles, and you were insulted that I thought you'd be won over by some silver-tongued charmer -"

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Snort.

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"Tell them good skill, and good fortune if there's anything they're leaving to fortune's hands."

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"Will do."

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If they can they're not leaving anything to fortune's hands. There's now material for a second bomb so if the test one fails they can try again.

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She works and works on cargo/passengers/etc. (And passes on messages and plays Governor and wishes she had rationed Quendi girls.)

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Does she really really hate sleeping with someone twice even if it's been a decade? Maedhros assures her that he has not been throwing Governor and points out that Fingon has a lower-than-warranted opinion of his honesty. There's a long, bitter winter during which everyone who can't walk on snow is rather stuck in their houses for a few days, unless they fire-song out.

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(The helper Nolofinwëans are full up on warm songs, right? Good.) She has never managed to find sleeping with the same girl on two occasions appealing over any span of time! It's really annoying! If only all the Quendi boys around didn't have scary soul monogamy bullshit! If only Sigyn had come with her like he was supposed to!

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Girls could switch apartments and dye hair and pretend to be different people, how good is her memory for faces? And bodies, they guess that complicates it. What an odd problem to have. They hope Sigyn's okay but on the other hand it's good there's no one close to her who Thauron could have gone after.

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...Loki doesn't comment on how admirably she thinks Sigyn would hold up under torture. Anyway, this is very sweet of them to offer (...that, and she prides herself on being awesome in the sack, this is probably helping) but it's not gonna help even if she takes the eidetic necklace off.

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The Quendi are very baffled but sure, okay, Asgardians can be as strange as they please.

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It's not an Asgardians thing! There are completely bisexual Asgardians! This is just her. Very, very, very incompletely bisexual. Sort of... not, actually, bisexual, just in a very extended experimental phase.

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Well, Loki can be as weird as she pleases.

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Yes she can.

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They're trying a better bomb design. They explain the details but they're a bit technical.

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A bit, yes. She did legitimately read all those books she swears they've just gone on a bit from there and she's been elsewhere occupied.

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Specialization is great they are not judging her for having difficulty following. Anyway, this bomb is less likely to fizzle and likelier to explode, that's the simple version.

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Both good properties!

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If they can develop better non-nuclear explosives it'll be even explodier. Their non-nuclear explosives are well behind the level that other civilizations had by the time they were trying to make nuclear ones.

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She supplements the book supply a bit.

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Winter and summer, winter and summer.

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- IT FINALLY CAME TOGETHER!

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Yay. Bomb test, then party, says Maedhros. Though I guess we shouldn't throw parties for new capabilities the Enemy doesn't know about. Bomb test while I manufacture a capabilities-unrelated reason for a party.

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You got it.

All right, here go her and a bomb and some techs to the uninhabited southern continent desert.
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"We can't detonate it from that far off, but let's hop twenty miles out as soon as it's triggered" the tech says. "Much less than that should be safe but there's no reason to risk it."

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"Yeah, you want to give these things some room."

When they trigger, she pops them twenty miles away to a good vantage point.
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You don't need Elven eyesight to see it, in exquisite detail, from twenty miles away. The flash is well out ahead of the sound. The desert shakes. The air boils into a mushroom cloud.

"I think," says one of the techs, "we should delay the party until we drop the second one on Morgoth."
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"There's enough leeway on the second one to let you trigger it and me drop it in place and leave, right?"

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"Yep. It'll have to be hop-hop but you can do that.




Eru.


Had you seen them, did you know-"
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"Not in person. I knew the general idea but it's really something."

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"I feel like this must be how Morgoth got started. Turning lands to dead ash, our histories say.


Let's go back. Let's do it now."
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"Please do not nuke things which need it less than empty deserts. I would be so annoyed."

She pops them back.
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There is much - osanwë, carefully directed - rejoicing. Fëanor concurs in the assessment that there's no time to wait on Angband.

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Right. They want it detonated overhead, in the fortress somewhere, what?

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Overhead. The books say that's best, and also Fëanor has a complicated physics explanation of why that's best. This far above the ground, dead-center -

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She can do that.

Say when.
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Now, a lot of people say in unison.

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Pop pop.

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You can borrow our eyesight, Maedhros says, and then the northern horizon goes blindingly white, and then they can peaceably count off the seconds to the thunderous boom, and they can feel the blast even here, but lightly, like a gentle shove backwards, and fire settles in the sky above Angband.


Morgoth is, at this point, genuinely annoyed.
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Loki watches the explosion with considerable satisfaction.

She has no way to directly detect annoyance.
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For about an hour, nothing else happens. Even the planned party does not start. The Elves are watching, stunned, and weeping, and in Fëanor's case checking the visuals against what they had projected and against the first earlier test. Maedhros has gone very very motionless.

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...Loki blinks at him but doesn't ask.

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Thank you, he says to her after a minute.


Are you going to end it now?
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This continues not to be a hallucination.
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He hugs her. He does not do it like a madman who hates being touched, whatever is going on internally. He pulls her close and rests his head on hers and squeezes as gently as if she were an Elf.

I don't believe you. But thank you. Thank you.
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She is too surprised to hug back for a moment, but then she does. You're welcome.

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They have an audience. "Awww," someone says, "now kiss." And Maitimo carefully disentangles himself, though he's still looking at her, and then turns his attention to his father who is the only person in the room paying them no mind at all.

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Loki is unimpressed with the person who suggested they kiss.

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My fault, he says, a little while later, when everyone's attention is better. I apologize if I startled you.

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You are not typically huggy. I had no objection, just wasn't expecting it.

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That is a fair characterization, he says. I have not touched another person in ten years, since my family arrived in Himring.

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Fingon's probably going to make a face at me if he hears about it. I don't know what kind of face, mind you, but some kind of face.
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I didn't refuse him last time he was here, he refused me. Also now you have passenger teleportation so if he is jealous he can come and visit me.

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I will convey the invitation. What's the line on what the boom was?

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What we were expecting. Your books were apparently very accurate. It is a safe bet all orcs are dead, however you're inclined to feel about that.

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I am inclined to be glad they aren't in zombifying condition. There were the ones settling farther south, though. And I assume you weren't counting the adoptees or the converted.

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Our orcs are alive and well and experienced no changes in condition. I expect the same for the ones at the isle - it's too bad none of them are still sworn to the old Melkor, we could get some evidence about whether he's dead from how they reacted to orders...

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I could go to one of those settlements, assuming they haven't all been wiped out by nearby Elves. Or she could just ask Tyr.

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Seems like valuable information. Come right back. In case he's alive and retaliates and we need to leave immediately.

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Will do. What do I ask exactly?

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When something you've sworn to stops having a valid referent, you - feel it. Like a string being cut loose that you hadn't noticed in the first place. That's how I am confident the Silmarils survived the blast, if they'd ceased to exist we'd know it.

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Maybe wait a while before trying to dig them up.

She pops down to the converted orc colony. Hi everybody how're you doing hi there Tyr can we chat?
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He blanches. "Yes.'

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Over here out of earshot - "Just one question. Can you tell me if Morgoth's still alive?"

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"...yes. Did you think he wasn't-?"

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"Fuck," says Loki, "thank you," and she pops back and says he's still kicking.

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Well.

They can design bigger bombs but that doesn't really seem to be the problem, necessarily,
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It might indeed not be.

Interdimensional transit: next up. Fast as she can.
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Three hours after they dropped the bomb, the cloud starts moving. Not drifting, as a cloud might, or even blowing away on the winds; moving, directly, like it were made of foam and someone were shaping it. It is taking on a humanoid form.

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Move to south continent?
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Yep.

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She evacuates, if you can call it that when she brings all the buildings and the walls. She plunks them on a nice grassy plain.

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You should probably also grab everyone else. Maitimo says as soon as it materializes around them.

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Yep.

And she pops north again and clears out the bomb assembly site and puts it upwind of the bomb test zone, and goes to Mithrim, "Morgoth's alive and taking form as a fallout cloud permission to wreck your plumbing relocating this whole shebang to another continent?"
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Yes, Nolofinwë says instantly. Did he do that explosion? I thought it might be my brother.

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It was us, just didn't kill him. Taking the lake would be kind of a disaster, but she hops into the air for a good goggle-enhanced view of everything else, picks them up, puts them near a different lake which is not shaped right but should at least serve generic lake-related purposes.

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What on earth will?

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Might take an infinity stone. If that doesn't do it I am really very short on ideas and will just evacuate the planet.

And she pops into Doriath. Melian, we leveled Angband but Morgoth's still alive and now he's pissed off. Can you hold or do you want me to move this entire forest to another continent for you?
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That may not have been wise.
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Do you want me to move the forest or not.

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You cannot move the magic that protects it.

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I will leave it here, then, sorry about not killing Morgoth on the first try.

Brithombar? Dwarves? Miscellaneous Thindarin populations? Orc colony?
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Yes, yes, yes, and yes.

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She finds places to put them. She puts them there. The Dwarves have conveniently enclosed their whole settlements in rock; she can pick up enough of it to be reasonably confident it won't fall over and put it all (regrettably aboveground) near a south continent mountain range.

She pops back to New Himring and reports on who she has put. Missing anybody you know about?
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Just finished a full census, we're all here. Maedhros says.

We need the Silmarils, Fëanor says. He can't be using them with that form, and it shouldn't be able to go near them.
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Well, the place is radioactive and very hot, right now, and I can't target to land near the Silmarils themselves to avoid being irradiated, so I'd be betting on my healing to work faster than the environmental hazard. Invent me a rad suit if you want me to get them. What I meant is are there any other settlements I have not yet evacuated that you know about besides Doriath which is staying put.

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Unwise, Fëanor says. We'll get working on radiation protection. I do not know of other settlements.

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Loki pops around to ask other evacuees if they know of anybody else she ought to get.

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There are a number of nomadic Sindar tribes, Fingon says, can she ask them individually, they don't have central leadership...

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If they're nomadic she'll have a bit of a job finding them but she'll try.

She goes looking, keeping an eye on the cloud.
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It has coalesced into a figure that is human but far too tall. It then splits into five of those; four of them walk away from Angband in various directions. The last one remains there.

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Disturbing. C'mon nomads be findable.

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They have gone to ground. Understandably, probably.

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Well is it findable ground?

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Not with her eyesight.

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Ugh. Pop back down. Any Elves want to bop around with her looking for nomads?

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Yes, certainly.

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Great. She brings them up.

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Tyelcormo finds three tribes with an hour of searching, can convince them to be relocated, can't convince them to share the location of anyone else.

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Well, she relocates these three.

And then she distributes elfbirds all over the south continent to put a sort of map together in case anybody wishes to be re-relocated somewhere other than she happened to think of on short notice.
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It might not be worth getting permanently settled here, Maedhros says. He presumably will come eventually.

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It won't take me long to move people if they want to be moved, but yeah. It probably is worth trying to grow food and I didn't assess the places for agriculture first though.

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I've got people out doing soil tests now.

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I should possibly go tell Ulmo what happened. Is the procedure 'stand at a beach and speak'? Should someone else who is not me do it?

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You mean, someone who thinks highly of him? This is the heretic host. You should ask the Nolofinweans. But I expect he'd react fine to you, honestly.

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I was thinking 'someone diplomatic', actually. I'll try the Nolofinwëans.

She tries the Nolofinwëans.
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Turgon's been talking with him, Nolofinwë says. He'll go with you.

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So Loki and Turgon go to a beach. A south continent beach. Oh, look, horseshoe crabs.

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And he wades into the water up to his knees - "you can come too, if you'd like" and stands there letting the waves break just past him.

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Sure why not. Wade wade.

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And he starts singing. Either it's a powerful magic song or it's working, because it feels abruptly as if the air pressure is rising, as if there's a dangerously strong current running through them, as if the sea is the only thing in all direction -

What have you done? says Ulmo.
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Eesh.

Fission bomb.
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Valinor is closed to those who fled the crimes they committed there, and not a good environment for Men or Dwarves or you - this directed at Loki. But this world is terribly unsafe now. And there are other peoples in the lands you have by necessity claimed, who will not be stronger for the sudden influx of reckless and desperate Noldorin neighbors. And there are greater evils at work.

We told Fëanor he could not triumph. He said that perhaps Eru had set in him a fire greater than we know. He was right about that. He
still cannot triumph.
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I didn't think this continent was inhabited. I can shuffle things around to give whoever's here space.

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You can. He does not sound exactly approving. You will in fact have to do a great deal of shuffling; the Enemy will not take long to find you here, and if he guesses that he can keep you too distracted to do your invention by routinely attacking civilians you have the power to save, he will do precisely that.

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Wouldn't surprise me.

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I can put a city of civilians beyond his power to find. One of them.

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How big a city?

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The actual constraint is how big the surrounding land for agriculture. A city of any size would be fine.

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How much land, then?

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Ten square miles, if a good location for it can be found.

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Does it have to be near the ocean?

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That doesn't seem wise at all; mountain ranges are harder for the Enemy to have his servants explore manually foot-by-foot, which is the only way it could be found.

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Any other constraints I should know about?

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The more the house of Fëanor has to do with a plan, the worse its odds of success.

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Oh, is that why the Enemy is still alive. Can I get around this in some way?

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The Enemy is still alive because sheer energy cannot kill us. The Enemy turned this to his benefit because his attackers were doomed. They could get around it by surrendering their claim to the authority to rule and not taking a role in planning. They are not very likely to do this.

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Do you happen to know if antimatter would work or is that also a no-go?
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In the quantities needed to make it work I think you would destroy this world.




It would work, though.
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I will plan on a non-planet-destroying option. I don't suppose we made enough of a dent in him that you and the rest of the Valar can just finish the job?

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We could.

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Not likely?
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I can petition my brethren.

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That would be great. I have a next step but it's entirely possible it will not cooperate with me. If you're worried about wrecking Beleriand I am happy to make another pass of evacuations. Does the other side of the cylinder have atmosphere?

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The world is flat.

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I heard it was flat on top and otherwise a cylinder; was my information mistaken? ...Are you not allowed to describe it in front of the Elf or something?

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I suppose it's technically a cylinder but a very very narrow one; flat is a much better approximation. There is atmosphere on the other side.

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Would it be appreciably more difficult for Morgoth to get there?

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Yes. But it's not lit and not particularly habitable.

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The sun doesn't go around -? Okay, not worth the detour then.

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It does but it doesn't maintain a trajectory convenient for life below.

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I will see how many people I can cram into a city. Anything else I should know?

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It is actually usually better to ask permission than forgiveness; sometimes others will foresee flaws in your plans.

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My plan is to develop interdimensional teleportation, attempt to secure the cooperation of a sapient magical artifact possessed by my family which has been poetically described as 'to its holder, all questions of "where" are answered effortlessly with "why, wherever you should like"', and then smear Morgoth over a few million parsecs.

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That will work.

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Good. If I can't look after a continent's worth of people while I work on that how much of a disaster would it be if I appeared in Valinor, I've heard mixed reviews.

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Impatient people usually find the time-dilation on Valinor to be extremely frustrating.

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A frustrating delay in which I don't die is preferable to a breakneck pace during which I do. Other than that part?

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If you abide by our laws we will shelter you; you have done no wrong.

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Any laws I'm likely not to get along with if my priority is sitting around doing spell development?

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No murder, no threats of it, no transporting other people out of Valinor.

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...Noted.

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May Eru's hand guide you.

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Thanks.

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The pressure in the air fades. She can hear things other than the crashing of the waves. She is kneeling in the water; she didn't kneel.

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...rude. She teleports up to her feet. "That was interesting," she says to Turgon.

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"Ulmo aids us as much as is in his power."

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"Yeah, could've gone worse." She shakes her head and puts them back at Lake Not Mithrim. "Ulmo says he can hide one city with agriculture not extending more than ten square miles. How many people could cram into that?"

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"A hundred thousand, maybe. At least all the families with young children."

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Ugh. Not enough. "I need to be rocketing towards a developed spell as soon as possible, and Ulmo advises that plans in general work better when Fëanorians aren't operating them, can I turn over the entire problem of arranging for a city to exist and be populated to that capacity to you guys? I can come by once a day to deliver messages, move things, etcetera, deploy me how you like as long as it doesn't take too long, but my time is ever more of the essence."

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"We can have that city built. We shouldn't even need you once a day."

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"However often. Here's a map." She hands out a few maps of the south continent. "You are here. Ulmo says it's not as uninhabited as it looks, be advised." Sigh.

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"Thanks." They pull over the maps and start talking.

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And she pops back to New Himring and relays the situation.

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"Bet Ulmo's definition of civilians includes none of us," Maedhros says. "Which is fine, we can hold out here once we have a Silmaril and I think they're a matter of days away from a radiation suit."

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"Will the suit do heat too? And, yes, probably not you but at least some of the Men."

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"Site of the bomb should not actually be hot in a few days, just radioactive. I'm not commenting on sending Men because apparently my comments on plans make them work less and I expect you to notice all the obvious right things anyway."

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"Frustrating, that," she remarks. "Am I going to pop in a rad-suited search party? I'd rather not sift through rubble under the circumstances."

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"Yeah, we'll take care of it, just need you to pop us in and out."

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"Sure."

And she goes to furious spell-development.

She makes circuits of evacuated people to see if they need to communicate anything, but tries to keep them short. She sleeps one night on one night off. She works. She has to get off this stupid fucking cylinder.
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They have radiation suits. They ask for a pop north. They find two of the Silmarils.

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Do they want to keep rummaging or call it good?

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Keep rummaging but pop Caranthir back with these two in the meantime.

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Pop.

And back to work.
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Three weeks later the survey team announces that the third Silmaril isn't present; Morgoth must have figured out how to take it. Though it's odd he'd only take one.

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...Loki makes a guess. She doesn't share it. She pops the team back to New Himring.

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Maedhros probably makes the same guess, judging by how oddly expressionless he goes. That afternoon Fëanor announces that one should believe and convey absolutely no information told to them by the Enemy, even if he swears to its truth. They're willing to have Tyelcormo babysit a Silmaril at one of the other sites as needed.

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Loki sees which other sites would like this service.

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Everyone would if Morgoth is coming, not really otherwise.

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Well, he's not on the horizon yet. Just so Loki has fewer things to scramble about if he shows up she thinks distributing the Silmarils would be a good idea anyway; how about she arbitrarily decides on parking him with Dwarves (there are children there)?

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Dwarves are great. In that case though they'll have Curufinwë go so he can at least learn from Dwarves while he's there.

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Sure, whichever. Pop. Spellcraft. Spellcraaaaaaaaft.

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Morgoth arrives on the southern continent.

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Fucking hell. Is Ulmo minding a city yet? How fast does Morgoth move?

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There's no city for Ulmo to mind yet; a site has been selected, and might already be under protection, but there's nothing there. Morgoth approaches New Himring; they plant the Silmaril in the central courtyard and stand around it and the ground shakes but he does not approach.

"The third Silmaril has been claimed as his own by Elu Thingol of Doriath," he says, and then moves on.
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"That's the lie I'd pick, too," Fëanor says. "Where's he going, can you get out ahead of him and take someone and this one with you - though honestly - Loki, I swear to you by my name, by my house, before Eru that if you teach me teleportation I will not even try to reverse-engineer the principles behind your sorcerous alphabet until after we have access to your galaxy, but we can have the Silmarils wherever they are needed only with someone teleporting full time and he would love to hold you back from spell development by having you hop across the continent."

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"...I am tempted," she says, "but the third Silmaril is somewhere even if it's not where he says it is, and you have a preexisting oath about it which concerns me very much."

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"Then we can keep chasing Morgoth around the continent with the Silmarils until he finds a way to be three places at once."

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"Are you allowed to loan them to people who are not under the same oath about them, if you are confident they will return them on request?"
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"High bar for 'confident they will return them on request', but yes."

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"So maybe someone who is not under your oath could swear to hand an entrusted Silmaril over to you on request, and not to reverse-engineer or distribute my spell system unless I die or there's interdimensional access, and they could learn to teleport."

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"Celebrimbor?" Fëanor says without hesitation.

Another man walks up a second later.

"Did you hear the conversation?"

"Yes. I need to think about it."

"What about?"

"You're asking for an oath-" He flinches. "I'll do it."
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"I don't like it either but unless you have a better idea..."

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"I swear that if a Silmaril is entrusted to me I will give it to you on request, or to any of your sons on their request, and will not attempt to avoid becoming aware of such requests. I swear that if I learn the sorcerous alphabet for teleportation I will not deliberately reverse-engineer or deliberately distribute it unless Loki dies or there is interdimensional access."
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"Right then. Do you want the spell text by osanwë or in writing?"

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He's already wearing a necklace. "Osanwë's faster."

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"This is going to be ludicrously tedious," she warns, and then she hands over two hundred and nine elemental concepts and then starts going through the current snapped-together full cargo tactical teleportation spell.

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He does not look bored. Unhappy, but not bored. Fallout cloud Morgoth streams off to their south.

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The text comes faster than two symbols a second - it can be chunked into words, paragraphs even - but it's still books and books worth of stuff. "For this purpose you don't need full cargo and passenger transit, although I can give you that too, it'll just take longer."

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"How much longer? If you died it'd be very good to have."

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"A little more than half again as long. As long as we have this regrettable arrangement I'm willing to make it worth your while with whatever spells you want, just bear in mind the tradeoff against my invention time."

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"Invention time is precisely what we're trying to buy you."

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"I know. But as long as we're doing this, the better you can pick up where I left off if I die the better. You probably don't need my grace, you could do without the bird spell, you might want healing and the full extant teleportation, maybe the illusions - though the illusions are the longest by far."

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"Healing, maybe. Thank you."

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"You're welcome."

And she sends and sends and sends, decades and decades of work in (mostly) elegant, (all) brutally effective reams of symbolic command of the universe.
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And he stands there, fixed, absorbing it, while some kind of murmured argument is going on around them.

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Loki is curious about that, but not enough to interrupt herself.

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It has ended before they're done. She can ask someone later if she's sufficiently curious.

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When she's done she's going to get some sleep, but after that:

What was the muttering about?
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Hmm? Maedhros, who was definitely muttering, says with as much innocence as anyone could possibly put into the syllable.

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You didn't have to stand in the room with me while you muttered if you didn't want me to notice.

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You weren't the intended audience.

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Did I fuck up the conditions of the transfer in some way? Are you 'being Fëanorian at me' because you cannot count on me to put Silmarils ahead of all else and that's a going concern now? Do I need to go ask Fingon?

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No. My father coerced someone into an oath in broad daylight in public and I needed to challenge him on that. But he had a good reason and may even have been right so I needed to not call to have him arrested or something else I'd have been entirely within my rights to do at that point. You weren't part of any of that except incidentally, and I don't object to discussing it with you, and your priorities are entirely reasonable and shared by me anyway.

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Coerced? It looked - unenthusiastic, but I didn't think coerced -

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You don't order people to take oaths. Not during a war, when orders are law like they are now, like we've been operating of the last decade. Not in peacetime either but there, at least, I'd expect most people to disobey -

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Ugh. I'm going to have to take a run at the gems anyway, I'll see about free will.
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The orcs are a thousand times more reason to do it than we are.

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More than. But - if it would help Celebrimbor to know I have an angle on that.

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I'll tell him it's in the works. Happy belated birthday, it's his majority.

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...Back to work with me.

And she works.
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And they shield each city Morgoth moves towards, until after a month a second fallout-cloud-body joins the first one, and then until a third does.

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Loki leaves on a message-relaying trip. She makes it in record time.

She goes to Doriath.
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Doriath looks the same as always. There are two more fallout-cloud-bodies hovering over it, not getting too close.

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...yep. She's not even going to ask. She pops back. Can she consolidate more people? Hidden city, two Silmaril-guarded locations?

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Hidden city is bare-bones but up and accepting civilians. They could have a Nolofinweans-and-Sindar location and a Feanorians-and-Dwarves location, most of the Men and most of the Elven civilians in the hidden city?

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That works.

She goes up to a beach. "Do I need to get Turgon to sing to ask you a quick question?"
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Apparently.

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She goes and gets Turgon. "I want to ask if it's okay for me to turn some sea invisible so as to easily teleport a lot of fish out of the ocean to feed people."

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This time it takes a while longer to get in touch with Ulmo. He has no objections to her feeding people with her teleportation and invisibility.

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Cool. She notifies Celebrimbor of that, too, he can probably see fish through non-invisible water better than she can. She dumps a lot of fish on people when she cannot stare at her spellwork for another minute. But mostly she does spellwork.

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Everyone is alive. The Elves are working on a way to weaponize the Silmarils against the fallout clouds.

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Good for them. She's working on getting off this stupid fucking cylinder so she can grab a scary fucking cube.

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There's a hurricane. It seems to seriously inconvenience Morgoth, though it also inconveniences them; he's gone for several weeks. The Elves are enchanting mirrors to amplify light.

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Maybe that was Ulmo. Thanks, maybe Ulmo.

- Illusion songs work. Would illusion Silmaril light work? What's a cheap way to test that?
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Take some fish, leave it near an illusion Silmaril, see if it rots. It does.

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Well. Worth a try. Back to work.

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They can protect a wider radius with amplified Silmaril light. Directing it straight at him is the next project.

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Here, have books on optics.

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It works. They are, given the Doom, a little surprised how well it works. They rip and slice through the first Morgoth-form with a laser powered by a Silmaril diode and Celebrimbor catches the second Morgoth-form fleeing north and makes it fall to the ground like clods of dirt and the third one is better prepared but they now have two Silmarils to go after it with and when it falls apart it falls into the sea, leaving a series of ashy islands that connect the south continent to Beleriand.

They charge across it and the two fallout clouds besieging Doriath abandon fallout-cloud form and worm their way into the earth, leaving smoldering holes, and it's only when they're standing outside Doriath with Silmaril-weapons that they realize, given the Doom, it makes perfect sense it happened like this.
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Loki, being nowhere near Doriath at the time, does not know that this is going on unless someone thinks to tell her.

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Celebrimbor does not think to tell her but he does think to teleport everyone home and then teleport a thousand miles away from them and scream into the hills for a while.

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She's not being especially sociable these days. She's not likely to notice anyone brooding.

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She'd probably notice an army marching out for war but they. Are not doing that. They don't have to do it immediately.

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Well, then she will get a lot of work done in her ignorance.

Messages for anybody?
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Yes, tell Thingol to please please urgently give the damn thing back.

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"Um."
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And they explain.

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"Maybe you could offer to let Celebrimbor park with his entrusted Silmaril in Doriath so they're not defenseless in exchange for the one they have? Or can you consider them interchangeable?"

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"Celebrimbor can park there with theirs, that's fine."

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"Okay," sighs Loki. And she goes to Doriath and says hello.

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They are unimpressed with the decision to turn Morgoth into a cloud of fallout. Melian's been in a coma for months how is she doing?

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She apologizes for the cloud of fallout; she was really hoping it would kill him outright. Her next idea has confirmation from Ulmo that it will work if she can pull it off. She can try healing Melian if that would be all right with them.

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Melian is not injured, just not spending any attention on her body since she needs it all to protect Doriath.

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Ah. Well.

...So where's Lúthien?
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Lúthien is at Doriath's perimeter with its defenders planning how they can protect against whatever Morgoth's become now that he's wormed his way into the earth.

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If she has a moment Loki would like to talk to her.

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She does. "Hey."

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"Hi. How are you holding up?"

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"We are holding up. I've picked up some new tricks."

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"Yeah?"

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"It's not proper shapeshifting but I can move at the speed of something if I'm wearing its skin, and I'm perceived as it. I can sling rubble around. I have decent healing, finally."

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"...Wearing its skin?"

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Her smile shows a lot of teeth.

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"So I have a request about the Silmaril."
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"Yeah? You can stay here. It keeps him away."

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"The problem is actually that the Fëanorians are freaking out. They don't need to relocate the Silmaril, there's a way around that, but they're not going to be able to calm down without being able to convince their oath that they have it. When I have interdimensional transit if I manage what I'm going to try to manage I can hand out free will like it's candy and then they can sit down and shut up about the damn things but for now it would make them less perpetually distracted in their war efforts - which are significant, even if there were unintended consequences to the nuke and that was my idea anyway - if Celebrimbor could hang out here pretending to have custody of the Silmaril."

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"They swore an oath to have the Silmarils in their possession? How blindingly, dangerously, unspeakably stupid - we can't have Noldor in Doriath, you are welcome to hang out pretending to have custody of it..."

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"It was intensely stupid. I'm not going to argue with that. As soon as I have the means I am going to rescue them from their idiot mistake. I can ask if they can settle for me instead, but it's likely they can't. It's just one Noldo. You can probably ask them for whatever you want, if you feel like exploiting how stupid they are, if you make this one concession."

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"I'll discuss it with my father."

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"Thank you. - Please try."

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"It's not that I particularly want them distracted, but I don't especially expect it to matter."

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"It might. It looks like the next step in the war is me getting out of this dimension, and technically I could do that parked in Valinor ignoring everything if I had to, but when interim things come up they've been consistently excellent about turning up with help that serves shorter-term needs like 'where should I put ten thousand Men' and 'how can I see Maiar so I can kill Gorthaur' and stuff like that."

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"If they hadn't committed the Kinslaying the Valar would have intervened by now."

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"They've done intensely, stunningly stupid things. Unfortunately, some of those intensely stunningly stupid things are going to make it difficult to impossible for them to try to do compensatory good of any kind unless they have help."

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"In exchange for one Noldo having leave to stay here pretending to supervise the Silmaril, I want them to agree to cooperate in a trial for war crimes when the war is over."

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"Would you like me to relay this suggestion now or after you talk to your father?"

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"I just did speak with him."

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"...Oh. Right. Telepaths. Uh, I'll go tell them."

And she goes and tells them.
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"Well," Maedhros says, "she's grown into her own just a little."

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"Yeah."

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"Do you think there's a counteroffer she'd accept?"

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"Not sure. She's gotten harder to read and she was talking to her father, who I find even less comprehensible."

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"Alright," he says. "Father, my recommendation is that we accept and I go."

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"I was expecting Celebrimbor, I'm not sure if that will make a difference to them."

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"He has the power to take it and leave; I don't. With him the pretense of cooperation would be mutual; I'm genuinely their prisoner." His voice doesn't miss a beat there but it almost does. "If it makes a difference to them it should be in our favor."

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She looks at Fëanor.
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"I'll sit down for a trial for Alqualondë the day Elu answers me how many people were cut down by orcs a meter from Doriath's borders, knowing if they crossed it they'd die at the hands of Elves instead."

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"What's your plan B, then?"

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"I assume Maedhros thinks he can talk them out of it."

"Yes," Maedhros says.
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"...So plan B is pretend to go along with plan A."

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"They're pretending to give the Silmaril back."

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"Well, that's not untrue," she sighs.

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"My father died trying to keep those out of the hands of the Enemy."

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"They are out of the hands of the Enemy."
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"Yes. And they picked it up in the rubble and went "oooh, convenient, finders-keepers!"?

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This conversation is a waste of time. "So I'll tell them you say that Maedhros will go and that you wish me to inform them that you accept, shall I."
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"Yes."

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Pop. "They wish me to convey their acceptance; and wish to send Maedhros to pretend to have the Silmaril instead of Celebrimbor."

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Lúthien raises an eyebrow. "That's one of the Kinslayers? Can they send someone who's not a Kinslayer?"

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"Celebrimbor can teleport so they thought switching to someone who can't would be preferable. It does have to be somebody who either holds the oath or one with a comparable function in terms of being sworn to make the Silmaril accessible to them, or they won't be able to pretend hard enough, that leaves them limited on selection. I suppose it won't help if I tell you Maedhros is a very nice person."

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"I wonder if my cousins thought so when he slit their throats.


Yeah, we'll take one who doesn't teleport."
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"I'll be right back with him, then."

Pop. "They'll accept the swap."
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The Feanorians do searching looks around the table again. "If I ask you to come get me out," Maedhros says -

"I will invent a tank," says his father.
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"...I can ask if I can pop you out for the occasional breather, it's just you won't be babysitting the Silmaril during that time," Loki says. "The concession is letting you in, not letting you out."

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"Do you think the trial is going to end in a sentence of 'serious expression of disapproval'? If things get that far?"

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"I don't know how people around here conduct trials."

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"Let's go, shall we?"

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Sigh. Pop.

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Lúthien raises an eyebrow again.

Maedhros kneels. "Thank you."

"Your oath," she says, "on the trial."

"It was giving my word too lightly that put us in this situation. Loki can track us down if we fail to comply."

And Lúthien looks back at Loki. "Will you?"
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"I'll find them." And she'll turn them over too if she has any reason to believe it's something other than a kangaroo court which has never heard of phrases like 'commuted to services rendered'.

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"Thank you," she says. "Is he armed?"

"No," Maedhros says.

"I didn't ask you. If you want to wisely stop giving your word, I commend you, and also will not trust you."
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"I don't think he is, but if you'd like me to teleport him several feet to the left with his clothes and nothing else he may have on him I can do that."

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"Please."

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Maedhros is not armed.

"I'll show you to Menegroth," she says to him. "Thank you, Loki."
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"You're welcome."

Can I visit him?
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Yeah, definitely. I could stand to see more of you. He's not going to try to steal it and run away, or anything stupid like that?

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I doubt it very much.

He's my friend. Please look after him.
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Kinslayers require a lot of looking after?

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This would be the one the Enemy had for a long time until I rescued him and he's still roughly eighty percent sure everything's a hallucination by same with the avatar of the orchestrator of the hallucination being myself.

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Prisoners of the Enemy are doubly not allowed in Menegroth.

Don't tell my father that, and tell him not to.
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Don't tell her father the Enemy had you, Loki relays.

Done. My point is he's had a rough time and this is not a pleasant chapter in his life. Look after him for me.
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I will.

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Thank you.

And Loki goes.
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No one interrupts her. The Oath is satisfied. "Because "send Maitimo" is trying sufficiently hard, not because them pretending to agree to let it be in our possession would be sufficient," Tyelcormo says to her at one point.

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"Fucking oaths," she says.

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"If the cousins had picked it up, as much as they hate us, as much as they'd have grounds to hate us, they'd send someone at once asking how to do this right. I think they'd do that if we hadn't sworn, just because something of tremendous value and import of ours had fallen into their hands and they needed it and the right thing to do is to ask how to work things out."

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"I could have sworn at a variety of things in this situation and I chose oaths."

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"We have freely shared everything we've developed in this war, and we've been working to the bone to develop more, enough, faster -"

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"I know. You've been indispensable."

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"How's teleportation going?"

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"Ways off. I might try doubling up on acceleration, I might be able to gain more than I lose that way -"

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"It fucks you up a bit. Though you have healing, so maybe a bit less. We can keep you safe while you're incapacitated, though."

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"It's worth a try, if it works it gains me more than it loses me if it doesn't."

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"Ask Maglor about setting it up. Or -"

Hey, Cáno -

He arrives a minute later. "I showed you how to stack songs but this one's very precise, see -"
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And Loki learns to stack the song, and she stacks it, and she spends as long in there as she can stand.

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Maglor suggests that she could also listen to sped-up music on some of her breaks, if she finds music restful, so she doesn't have to come out of acceleration whenever she can't take it; and she can osanwë with other people who have accelerated perception, that's usually just Father but they can send anyone she'd enjoy talking with.

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Music is restful, that helps. No specific conversation requests. It's not like Maedhros is here to play really fast games of Governor. What does Fëanor like to talk about?

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He takes breaks far less frequently than her and insists they speak Asgardian but turns out to otherwise be a very pleasant conversationalist; he tells the story of how he noticed he was in love with Nerdanel very entertainingly, he is full of anecdotes about Valinor and about his sons when they were children and about ambitious misadventures from his own childhood; he likes hearing Loki's.

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Not all her breaks need to be social breaks. And speaking Asgardian is no skin off her nose. She is perfectly happy to tell him about her childhood and family and planet and friends and the funny story about her Allspeak glitch on Midgard.

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And heightened perception means that when the Elves announce there's something falling out of the sky at New Himring Loki move the city now she can react before they've even finished the sentence.

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- out she goes. (Does healing fix the headache?)

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Sort of, it's only partially a standard headache and partially something-like-seasickness at how oddly the world now seems to be rushing around her. Closing her eyes helps. Someone sends an osanwë projection of something arcing through the sky.

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Aaaand what does it look like?

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A big rock.

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- it's hard to tell like this how long she has to think or discuss redirecting it.

For lack of a better idea while it streaks toward the city she hops up to it and puts it above the Helcaraxë.
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And watches it dig a crater half a mile across. Not a nuclear bomb, though it is radioactive. Just a really big bomb.

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Well, nobody was using the place except hypothetical frost giants. She heals herself and pops back, landing a little dizzily. Anybody see more of those heading anywhere? she asks.

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I checked above both the other consolidated cities and Doriath, Celebrimbor says. Nope.

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Okay. She slides to the ground, rubs her temple, waits for the world to stop spinning.

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Eventually it does. We either need to put the consolidated cities within osanwë range of each other and of Doriath, or we need someone else who can teleport, he says.

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Okay. Are there suitable locations that work?

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Back to their original ones should work, actually.


I don't want my family anywhere near Doriath if it can be avoided.
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I should ask Ulmo if he'll still be able to protect the city if I move it or if he's committed to the specific site. Other than that putting everything back sounds fine. Ugh. When is it. How long was she in there.

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It's been six weeks.

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...Well, she got months' worth of work done and she wasn't seasick that long. This might be worth doing again if there don't start being a dozen rocks scattered all over every hour or something.

But as long as she's out, she'll be out for a bit. Stretch her legs. Get a little air under her wings. Celebrimbor has presumably been doing most message-relaying tasks but may have been handicapped in visiting Nolofinwëans and Doriath; she can do that.
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Celebrimbor indeed hasn't visited Doriath, and visited the Nolofinweans only to leave supplies at their door and pop out again. They're glad to see her.

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She is glad to see them too. Need anything? Any news? She dropped a giant destructive rock on the Ice, perhaps the Nolofinwëans will find this fact cathartic.

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They are amused. Ulmo can't move his hidden city; the location is what's so thoroughly protected.

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Okay, that complicates making sure everything's in range a bit. She notifies relevant parties who need to know where cities are going to be.

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The hidden city is probably not bombable anyway.

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Okay. Everybody else can go wherever.

And Loki can go to Doriath to visit Lúthien and Maedhros.
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They're expecting her, and tell her Lúthien is probably in the throne room and Maedhros under guard near the river.

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Maedhros first.

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The room has three guards, and he is chained to the wall. There's a conversation going on when she arrives and he waves her in and smiles broadly and introduces her to the guards, who have all left their weapons leaning against the door and are sitting on the floor to talk.

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I was not expecting this, she remarks. "Hi."
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Artanis had a talk with Lúthien. "Hi. We heard a very loud noise recently; is the continent holding up?"

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"Gigantic rock was attempting to land on a city, I put it on the Ice instead. It made a dent." Doesn't bode well for the possibility that they'll give me leave to take you out for an airing.

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"Oh, no. I'm not sure how Doriath would deflect that. The Enemy seems - inspired to new heights of creativity." I think I can be functional for a while longer like this.

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If that status changes I can pop you right out, it's just - complicated, as you know. "Yes. It's annoying. I'm working as fast as I can tolerate."

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"Can you tolerate a break? They were teaching me some Iathrim music."

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"Yeah, I need a break about now." I've been stacking accelerations, only popped out to move the rock.

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And the guards sing.

Good idea.

I'm sure Lúthien will explain it to you, but - this is
really intractable at this point, I can't work with people I can't speak to and I can't manage under present conditions for the decade - optimistically - it'll take to get anywhere with Thingol. And the Oath will get worse the longer we wait, too.
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I might get out of this dimension sooner than that but I can't guarantee it. I am planning to complain about the chaining you to the wall thing.

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They don't understand and probably wouldn't have done it if they did.

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Tips on precisely how to complain besides 'why pray tell is he chained to a fucking wall'?

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Lúthien is charming and empathetic and comes down to sing and dance a lot. She is accustomed to being adored and will probably be sincerely disconcerted if you're angry with her. She seems to regard herself as having rather few options; I didn't have enough freedom of movement to get a sense of whether that's an accurate estimation. Her father leans on her a fair bit when Melian is distracted but being depended on is not always easily translated to having leverage. I said as much to her and she agreed rather fervently.

I admittedly didn't have much occasion to get to know Thingol but didn't find any redeeming qualities. He is often talked down from his worst impulses, I suppose, and he cares about his people. He said I look just like my grandfather. I wish he hadn't said that, everyone knows the two of them were -
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I don't much care for him either and I am angry with her, although I don't know if 'disconcerted' is her most cooperative mood. You would not believe how tempted I am to smile my way through walking them through one of the more civilized paths for galactic treaty negotiations on the grounds that if you rule an entire continent that is the sort of thing you do, isn't it, and then inform them that on page six hundred and seventeen of the thing they just signed they're liable to have an entire Nova Inquisition turn them upside down on accusations of prisoner abuse. I mean, this is probably a terrible idea, but still.

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I know where the Silmaril is. You could just take me, take it, and go. With it gone we'd have no reason ever to bother them again, and there are better fallbacks of last resort at this point.

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I am not sufficiently angry at Lúthien to want Doriath in general to lose its ability to fend off the Enemy. Although if his tactic is now 'giant rocks' I might decide I'm not above a protection racket.

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He won't drop them on here. He wants to force our hand on the Silmaril, it's why he told us in the first place, he's not going to do anything to make the Silmaril not the operative constraint on their safety. We could steal it and then offer it back, on conditions more favorable to us.

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Did you already try convincing Celebrimbor to do that?

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Was going to wait until I couldn't handle this any longer. It's too much pressure to put a kid under, and I expect you'd have disapproved if we'd done it without you.

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I disapprove of things all the time. Sometimes I even intervene. I will see about arranging for you not to be chained to a wall if at all possible. The Silmaril's another matter.

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I would much rather have the Silmaril than not be chained to the wall.

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Yes, I know you would.

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So don't pick a fight over my conditions if it's going to make my objectives harder to achieve. Or at least don't do so as a favor to me.

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Is it going to make your objectives hard to achieve if I tell Lúthien off about you being chained to the wall?

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Possibly. Right now she doesn't think I'm mad at her; maybe she'd avoid me if she did, or get defensive, or replace this with a guard situation that I can't make even ostensibly friendly.

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I can tell her that you're taking it remarkably well and I'm just pissed off.

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If you like.

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On this subject I'm willing to do as you like, it's the Silmaril that's a mess I'm not prepared to touch.

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The Silmaril is quite simple. The cost of Elu's longstanding policy of leaving everyone else in the continent to die is that he'll have to be a little flexible while we figure out a means of protecting him with our resources that doesn't amount to 'let him steal extremely powerful stuff' but also of course does not amount to letting anyone in Doriath come to harm.

I would like you to not confront Lúthien; I think it's likelier to complicate my job than simplify it, and when I'm operating under this many constraints new variables are not very exciting.
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All right. My fake smiles are not up to your standards; I can leave without visiting her or see if she'll take 'I'm just in a bad mood' for an answer should she notice.

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Thank you. I expect she'll see lots of things to attribute a bad mood to in the current situation.

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True enough.

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Send my family my regards. Tell Macalaurë I appreciate his picking up my slack, I know he wanted to find a better ease out of accelerated perception.

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I can heal the headache, I'm just vaguely dizzy for a while. Not enough to be nonfunctional, I moved the rock okay. Probably worth doing more of it.

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I suppose we're no longer in a scenario where 'unable to function in a swordfight' is likely to be crippling.

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It would admittedly be hard to swordfight.

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Macalaurë's working on it. And we should have excellent range on true sight, now, though that also matters less than it did. Seems the Enemy has finally realized that he has to move fast to stand a chance in this war.

On second thought, if he thinks to make the rocks invisible true sight will be needed indeed.
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Yes. Yes it would.

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He's stopped even the pretense of paying attention to the music. We have a thousand feet on true sight. That's not near enough. Shroud every city out to however-far-is-needed-to-react-in-time with your color illusions, last we knew the Enemy had a hard time around those, and tell Curufinwë to figure out how to make true seeing trigger an alarm remotely. Then float them. Some kind of grid in the sky. Tell him not to point out the obvious it'll complicate my life.

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...the obvious...?

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I don't have another way of communicating with my family, I'd appreciate it tremendously if you'd relay messages that I intend for their ears and not yours.

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Ah. Sure. I suppose with you under guard it would be inconvenient to do the record-a-message-with-Allspeak-off thing.

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I could ask them to leave but it'd certainly reach Thingol's ears that I did so.

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No doubt.

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You should probably go do that right away, it sounds as if one of those rocks landing probably leaves no survivors.

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She doesn't interrupt the music; she writes in the air Excuse me, I thought of something urgent at home, be right back.

She conveys the message to applicable parties. She makes a shadowcatcher in the sky.
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"Thanks," Curufin says, and does not point out the obvious, whatever it is. "How is he?"

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"I am pissed off on his behalf. He is coping."

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"Pissed off on his behalf?"

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"I'd been imagining pleasanter accommodations."

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"Is he going to be able to persuade Elu?"

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"Maybe not before I have interdimensional teleportation."

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"And then you are going to change the Oath and call it a day?"

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"I might be a little more delicate than 'free will for everyone'; it'll depend on how good a working relationship I wind up having with the infinity stones. But probably yes."

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"I would object to Elu Thingol holding the Silmaril even were I not bound to stop him. We need them. We -" he bites his tongue - "you know what, Maitimo can stop meddling. If I had all three Silmarils right now I could get true sight at any range, amplification of magics is a thing they do when they're in conjunction. Enemy missiles would be visible anywhere in the world and instead of setting twenty thousand people to mass output of artifacts that cover a hundred feet square I could give them a day off or a lunch break or an education in the magic I'm asking them to wield with no understanding. Elu Thingol is a contemptible idiot and I will eventually take the Silmaril back from him whether I have to or not."

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"I'm not sure what you expect me to say to that."

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"Maitimo believes you that you don't intend to stop us. I'm not sure I do."

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"When something other than the presence of the Silmaril can stand between Doriath and the Enemy, such as, say, the nonexistence of the Enemy - and I am working on that - then if necessary I will steal it from them for you myself and tell them to sit down and shut up. I am not prepared to deprive a substantial population of people who were safer before I taught you how to make bombs of its protection when they require it just because their king is a contemptible idiot."

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"Of course we can't leave them defenseless! Having the Silmarils positioned to give the whole world true seeing also gives the whole world a radiation shield, or it'd be hardly viable; I think it'll also incidentally obviate nuclear weapons, but that's all right, we weren't going to use that again.

And the world may feel more dangerous than it did when the Enemy was sitting in Angband, but he was getting stronger faster than we were, there's magics at work that we don't even understand. I guarantee you that if we'd waited to bomb Angband until he'd started making the threat Doriath was under truly apparent, it would have done even less and left him much, much stronger and probably with a flying fleet of radioactive dragons.

You could've asked 'can we keep Doriath as safe if not safer with the Silmarils here', that's an engineering problem, we are good at those."
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"It is not solely an engineering problem."

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"Which is why Maitimo told me not to 'point out the obvious', that being that it's a pretty trivial engineering problem and neglecting it has a very high personal cost which mostly isn't even falling on my family."

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"I am not convinced that you can protect Doriath if there's no solution to the political problem, and unfortunately its king is too much of a contemptible idiot to route around transparent manipulation from the Enemy and your hands are too tied by your oath and your reputations too corrupted for you to have a free hand at addressing the politics."

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"What political problems are left if we get a radiation shield and true sight over the whole continent and possibly whole world?"

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"He burrows under the ground. He learns to teleport - Thuringwethil can, over short distances, I don't see why he shouldn't be able to pick up the trick if he set his mind to it - and uses something other than radiation to attack them. He leans on the fact that they're prone to contemptible idiocy, lures somebody out in false hopes of finders-keepersing a Silmaril again because they don't trust you, holds whoever comes out hostage. He thinks of something."

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"Having a Silmaril protects them from none of those except 'they might be tempted to do stupid things to acquire a Silmaril'." He sighs. "I need to put twenty thousand people to work on our current true seeing solution."

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"As long as having it is mutually exclusive with being attacked, whether that's the Enemy playing along or not, they will not be safer if they lose it. Do you need any more accelerated perception songs?"

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"Yes, if you don't mind, I need twenty thousand of them."

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"Get me twenty thousand rocks or whatever, then."

And she attaches songs to them.
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And they start mass development of artifacts of true seeing with a warning signal on them.

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And she goes back to her interrupted visit with Maedhros.

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He's laughing again when she enters the room.

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She clears her illusion away.

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And they wind up the songs and ask her questions about her travels and it's a sociable, if substanceless, half hour. Then Lúthien comes.

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Loki is in a bad mood but does not ask Lúthien why this is her idea of looking after somebody.

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Lúthien was clearly not expecting to see her, and is delighted and gives her a hug. "You're here! How is everything? Tell someone to bring extra dinner -"

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"Things are unpleasant. The loud noise earlier was me redirecting an enormous projectile from a city into the Ice."

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"Eru. And he probably has more and you can't do that constantly -"

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"I can't," she agrees. "I sleep. It's a failing. I mentioned someone else can teleport now, so we can avoid being asleep at the same time, but monitoring's a problem."

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"I'll tell Mother, in case there's anything she can do." She concentrates on doing this. "Did it do enough damage that it'd damage Menegroth?"

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"It made a half-mile dent in the Ice." She sends the image.

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"Well," she says, a bit shakily. "It is Ice. Maybe Mother can shore up Menegroth enough, with the Silmaril..."

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"I wouldn't know."

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Lúthien blinks, at that. "Well, no. That's why I'm asking. You sure you're okay?"

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"I'm in a bad mood. And this is my first real break from spellcraft in a while."

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"I have a fix for bad moods," she offers. You're going to have to leave pretty soon if you still don't like my song magic, I've been doing the panic-management one for your friend.

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"For various reasons, I prefer to keep my bad moods where I can see them," Loki says. Do you lack my blanket discomfort with mind affecting magic? she asks Maedhros.

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Maybe I'm rather inured to it at this point. I do not like it, but I'd also have been non-functional within two weeks, so I'm choosing the least bad alternative.

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"So I'll get out of your way," Loki says.

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"It doesn't have to be right this minute. Maedhros had promised me the conclusion of his story about studying botany with Yavanna -"

He smiles indulgently. "Promised? I don't think I promised. But you're a good listener - much better than me, or I wouldn't have been in this bind in the first place..." and then resumes the story.
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Loki doesn't want to stare at spell symbols again yet, not for months of subjective time. She listens.
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It's a terribly good story. Lúthien looks fairly jealous. "Once we've won the war," he says to her, "I expect Yavanna will come walk these shores to heal the harms the war did the land, and even your father can't possibly object if you walk with her."

"You underestimate him," she says.

"My grandfather was overprotective too, for something resembling the same reasons, but he let my father study under Aulë at an alarmingly young age. The Valar can be very reassuring presences when its reassurance that a person needs."
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...Loki isn't sure whether she should ask if they routinely do the covert forced kneeling bullshit.

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Lúthien frowns at her again. "You should take more breaks, Loki, you look desperately stressed."

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"Actually, just then I was thinking about a conversation I had with Ulmo, not about anything overwhelmingly stressful."

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"What did he say?"

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"He says my plan for killing the Enemy will work."

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"Good."

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"It does rely on my being able to attempt to enact it. I might just vanish from here, try to pick up the Tesseract, and die."

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"Aren't there - other powerful weapons in your world? Which don't have that effect?"

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"Sure. We tried one. I asked about another but apparently in the quantities necessary to destroy the Enemy it would also destroy the entire planet. The one I'm going to try belongs to my family, didn't kill me the last time I touched it, and would afford me more than enough power and plenty of delicacy."

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She swallows. "Well. Okay."

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"I'm planning to leave some people the ability to teleport out of the dimension without me, and leave a note for my mother soliciting based on any sense of obligation she may or may not have towards me that she render foreign aid, and give the teleporters a list of likely next places to try for stashing refugees and collecting weaponry in case she is uninterested, but the Tesseract will be fastest and most effective if it works and I have a much better than average chance of operating it."

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Lúthien hugs her. "I trust you. Just be careful."

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"I am planning to stand there talking to it for a bit first asking it to please not disintegrate me into my component quarks," agrees Loki. "Very politely. I might bring someone who is politer than I am, even."

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"I can't think of anyone," she says, straight-faced, then giggles. "I think it'll be all right. If Ulmo said it'll work -"

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"Ulmo doesn't, I think, know anything about the Tesseract, let alone its personal opinions. The part I imagine he was commenting on is 'will smearing Morgoth over a few million parsecs do the trick'."

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She nods. "I should probably sing now, I can't stay here all day as much as I'd like to. Loki, Galadriel said she wanted to talk to you next time you were in Doriath, want to talk with her while I sing to Maedhros?"

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Opinion? Loki asks Maedhros.

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I haven't seen her at all. Should be interesting. I also failed to consider that I'd be damaging your personal relationship with Lúthien if I asked you not to confront her. If you're not doing it for me I don't mind if you do it.

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I may mention it when she's done singing to you, then. "Where's Galadriel?"

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"Rooms next to mine, if you remember where mine are. You're welcome to join us for a night, I've been wanting to have a princess slumber party."

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Well, she still has to sleep under accelerated perception. Might as well get a night of it done first. "Sounds nice."

And off she pops.
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Galadriel isn't hard to find; she's in her room, on the false balcony, and turns around when she hears Loki. "Hello."

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"Hi. Heard you wanted to talk to me."

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"Did the Feanorians lie to you about the Oath or did you lie to Lúthien about it?"

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"Neither, as far as I know."

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"It's not to always be in possession of the Silmarils. It's to kill anyone who claims them. To pursue them, unswayed by law or love or league of swords, until the world's ending."

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"If they ask not to be granted free will when I have that to sling around I'll have to tell them tough luck."

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"What did Maedhros tell you he was here to do?"

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"Among other things, not be able to teleport."

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She looks confused. "Was that deliberately unhelpful?"

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"Are you trying to be helpful? What are you trying to accomplish?"

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"I was trying to avoid waking up one morning to find out that my suicidal cousin had murdered the King and perhaps also Lúthien not sure what the Oath thinks about that."

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"What would you like me to do?"

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"Hmm? Nothing; he can't do it now, so the oath can't give him a hard time, and he seems to have a secondary mission of winning over Lúthien which is probably all for the best. I just wanted you to have accurate information and I did not trust Feanorians to give it to you."

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"Thank you."

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"Welcome."

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"Apparently Lúthien wants to have a princesses sleepover."

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"You don't like me, do you? And I don't like Maedhros, or is he not invited?"

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"I don't think she was planning to detach him from the wall for the purpose. Should I like you?"

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"We could have it at his place.

And you like them, so your criteria are mysterious to me."
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"Are you trying to get me to like you?"

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"No. Do you want me to?"

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"I'm a little curious what it would look like, honestly."

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"I've been learning magic from Melian. I want to be able to protect a realm of my own someday and aid Doriath in the meantime. I've been helping Lúthien with spell development, too. We haven't been sleeping - she can sing. I suggested restraining my cousin because oaths don't nag you when you can't act on them so independent of whether he planned a suicidal assassination now the oath can't force his hand steadily towards one."

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"Is that why he is chained to a fucking wall."

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"Yes."

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"Then I can be somewhat less cross with Lúthien about it."

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"Oh, good. She likes you."

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"I like her too when she's not chaining anybody to a wall."

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"I enjoyed the look on his face. I don't think she did."

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"Does he flirt with you? He doesn't mean it."

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"He doesn't flirt with me. That would be weird."

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"He's flirting with Lúthien. As much as he can get away with it under the circumstances."

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"Well, that's also weird." Mental note to advise him that there's some fated drama about Lúthien falling in love and it being a disaster and please don't court that happening ahead of schedule with you of all people.

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"Not really. Using people is kind of his entire approach to life."

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"I didn't mean weird in the sense of out of character."

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She raises an eyebrow. "He's not going to marry her, he's just going to try to charm the Silmaril out of her hands. Unless the best avenue to do that was to marry her, in which case I expect somehow he'd do it, and then Eru help them afterwards."

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"Well, I will remark that I think it's sketchy and we'll see if he listens to me."

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"Thank you."

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"You're welcome."

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"I guarantee you Fëanor has at least contemplated dropping one of the mushroom bombs on this place."

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"I don't hold people responsible for thinking about things, even petty, disproportionate things."

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"Fair enough. The song doesn't take them that long, you can probably head back."

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Is she done singing?

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Yes.

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Pop. Galadriel says you're flirting with Lúthien.

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She catches them both laughing. "Loki," he says. That would probably get me executed. I do have it on hand as a backup plan since I couldn't keep the knife, but -

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"Hello again." Okay, it's good that you're not because according to Thuringwethil there's major drama fated in her love life and even if the exact plot's off the rails the underlying tendency probably persists, and also it would be weird.

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Would it? She's a very pretty girl.

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Believe me. I know. It would still be weird.

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I have absolutely no interest in flirting with Lúthien. How's Galadriel?

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Bitchy. Says it's not Lúthien's idea to have you chained to a wall. Remarked on the oath.

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...that's why they're doing this? Does she think I'm going to run at Melian and, um, wish her dead really hard?

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Elu, actually, and she didn't speculate on the method.

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Well, that's at least possible in principle, that's something.

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I don't know how likely it is that you could theoretically steal a weapon and deploy it, but if they just kept you under guard I would imagine that would suffice.

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It would.


I think personal dislike for me may be among Galadriel's motives.
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I imagine so.

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Lúthien's watching the two of them. "Everything okay?"

"No," Maedhros says, "it really isn't, is it? Nothing's newly troubling. I haven't seen Loki since I arrived, and while that's not long at all when I have things to occupy me, here I find myself as impatient as a mortal."
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"I have been informing him that it was not your idea that he be chained to a wall. I had imagined it was, I didn't even know Galadriel was here until you mentioned her."

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"We both discussed it with my father. It's not particularly restrictive, he can move around the room -"

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"He's chained to a wall, Lúthien."

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"We've never hosted kinslayers before!"

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"We've discussed how I feel about that word."

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"He swore an oath to kill my family."

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"And for this act of idiocy now he is chained to a wall when he came unarmed to turn himself over to your custody and you were all set to accept his teleporting nephew who'd sworn no such thing instead. I suppose I can at least be confident you won't kill him, because he's kin."

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"Executing criminals is permitted," she says, but very quietly. "This isn't how I wanted to do this. But he's a Noldo and probably a smart one and Galadriel thinks that his real mission here is almost certainly to kill my father and that is in fact also what he's sworn to do so it's not particularly unbelievable and I don't see how to do right by everyone here but at least the mess can mostly fall on the shoulders of the people who created it."

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"Oh, even being kin is not absolute protection, I didn't realize how many layers of hypocrisy were at work in that fucking word - your lack of confidence in your guards is perplexing, anyway, you've been sparing them to watch him even though he is chained to a wall."

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"In ten years they invented weapons that reduced Angband to rubble! I have absolutely no idea how paranoid I need to be."

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"I gave them extradimensional information telling them how to do it! I dropped the bomb so they wouldn't have to figure out a deployment mechanism! They didn't wake up one morning thinking I suppose it might be useful to split the atom!"

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"They did wake up one morning thinking 'I suppose it might be useful to forge swords and take them down to Alqualondë-"

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"So don't give him a forge."

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"I'm sorry."

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"I feel like I should have tried you on a houseplant first before giving you anything more complicated and imagining you'd look after him but it would be hard to find a houseplant you were predisposed to mistreat."

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"I have been looking after him. I come several times a day. He said he doesn't mind the guards, he likes company. Houseplants definitely won't kill my father and if one of them had sworn to I'd be pretty wary of it, too."

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"So you'd water it," says Loki, "and keep it in the dark, and compensate with songs."

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"That works. Good crop songs compensate for growing a plant without light, I mean. And he's fine, he's singing, he tells stories -"

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"- he's chained to a wall."

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"Is this a particular Asgardian taboo?"

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"State of the art is nicely furnished prison cells with force fields between them and the corridor. But no, not in particular, I don't think Asgard is particularly precious about any form of prisoner maltreatment."

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"If we had force fields I'd do that."

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"You have guards."

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"I'll talk with my father about it."

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"Thank you."

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"Why didn't you warn us that the oath was to kill anyone who claimed a Silmaril?"

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"I didn't know the full wording of it and absolutely nothing about sending Maedhros here alone and unarmed to supposedly babysit the thing - which you are not even keeping in the same room as him, although I take less issue with that than the chain, honestly - screams 'assassination attempt, beware', and it still doesn't."

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"We were worried he might be able to weaponize it. And - okay, you know him better than me, if you're sure that's not what he'd be here for I trust you, but Galadriel knows him better than either of us and she thought it was likely and he was capable of it."

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"Galadriel hates him personally. Maedhros is not one of the family engineers, I do not think he can weaponize the Silmaril unless it comes already weaponized in some way I don't know about."

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"Bad at engineering for a Noldo still makes you very good at it by the standards of everyone else."

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"So don't give him tools and materials."

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"What if he can do it by singing?"

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"He's not the family singer either. Would you feel better if you had an object that emitted a person-sized amount of silence to have the guards attach to him if he started?"

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"He could just wear it, and communicate with osanwë -"

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"Is that okay with you?" Loki asks Maedhros.

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"In exchange for freedom of movement within the room? Or just as an extra precautionary measure?"

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Loki looks at Lúthien.

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"I'm going to have to ask my father about freedom of movement," she says. "This is just so we feel better about the situation."

"Then no," he says.

She looks pleadingly at Loki. "I could put a bunch of guards to sleep with a song."
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"Well, he's still chained to the wall, so I don't think that would get him anywhere. If I can silence you an accessory so he can no longer be chained to the wall you will continue not to have anything to worry about."

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"If you give us one that'll definitely be a factor in favor of releasing him."

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"If you release him that will definitely be a factor in me giving you one."

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"You're making a much bigger deal about this than he has. He hasn't even complained."

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Loki decides not to say If I were keeping you chained to a wall would you complain about it or would you try to be very charming until I stopped. Or, If it were my priority over all other considerations that he not be there I could remove him. She just frowns.

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"I know it's not right. I know it's not fair. He can go home if he pleases, obviously."

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"He's not in much of a position to so please."

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"Yeah." She looks at Maedhros. "You could swear not to kill my father, and walk away now, no guards, no problems -"

"I have decided to stop giving my word."

"Uh huh."
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- wince.

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"If you want to trade him for one who will swear to that, it's not really that much of an ask-"

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"Pardon me, I was remembering the screaming of somebody coerced into contradictory oaths."

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"I'm not coercing him. If you think they contradict you believe that he is obliged to try to kill my father."

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"I do not know the full content of the oath. I'm pretty confident that if it obliged them to do that and obliged them to do it efficiently Maedhros would not be the angle you'd have to watch from."

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"Yeah, that's occurred to us too. While he's here they won't drop any bombs."

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"Loki, what would you like from me? I realize it's a mess. It's a mess of their creation. I can't let everyone in this city die because they made stupid mistakes they've already killed people over at least twice. I'm not hurting him. I'm trying to balance his lives against ours, but there are two hundred thousand more of us so it comes out a little unbalanced even if he matters as much as anyone else."

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"I think I've made it very clear what I would like from you. Of course you are under no obligation to grant it."

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"I will try, next time I talk to my father. Having a muffling amulet for him would help."

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"You may have one as soon as he is not being kept like this or I am reliably informed that you will stop as soon as you've got the item. If I came back and you were keeping him chained to a wall and silent I would break the illusion and feel very taken advantage of for the interim time in which I did not know I would have wanted to do that. Let's just avoid that scenario as a potentiality."

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"Okay, that's fair."

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"I do try."

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"If you give it to me I won't put it on unless Father says he'll let him not be restrained."

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"You want to trust her with that for a few weeks?" Loki asks Maedhros.
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"I trust her," he says.

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"What would you like me to stick the silence to?"

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She'll get a necklace. What's his favorite color? He expresses a fondness for copper and, looking very relieved, she runs off.

He raises an eyebrow. Cathartic?
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A bit.

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Maybe you can ask about an evening's break? I think I might need an evening's break to figure out how to properly disentangle what I'm going along with because I want her to agree to what I want and what I'm going along with because subconsciously I'm convinced the choice is how much fight to put up, not what happens...

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When she comes back I'll ask if I may pop you out for a flight or something.

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Thank you. Did they get the shadowcatchers up everywhere it's needed?

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Yep.

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Thank you. Shame we can't do that and make the cities invisible, it might take him longer to track them down - it shouldn't take them long to get enough amulets if anyone's managing personnel competently -

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Also made twenty thousand accelerated perception rocks for personnel.

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Even better, then. A few weeks at most, Celebrimbor can at need go that long without sleep.

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You all right?

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Not in the best of moods.

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I doubt we have any coping mechanisms in common for that problem.

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Probably not.

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I haven't been pushing them about the Silmaril because if they say 'our Silmaril which we claim as our property' or something I am really in trouble, but have you seen it? Is it near here? Are they using it the right way, to stabilize the whole area?

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Haven't seen it. I can ask to.

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It's not very important. They're not particularly good for my sanity. The Enemy had them in Angband. Let me touch them, once, I think wondering whether they'd burn me.

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Burn you?

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They burn evil things. Not my father's work, that - it was a blessing Varda laid on them afterwards.

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How does Varda define it?

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I have no idea. The Silmarils in Angband did not burn me. If that was even real and not a hallucination.

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Wouldn't know. Although I'd imagine it'd be a crueller hallucination if they had, so I'm inclined to guess real.

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I thought the same thing.


Are you staying for a sleepover with Lúthien and Galadriel?
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I'm presently disinclined. I may if Lúthien manages to get you unchained.

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I don't think she was planning to try that immediately.

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Then I'll probably continue not to be in a sleepover mood, unless you think I ought to get over myself and take her up on it.

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I think your mental health is one of our most valuable resources at the moment and honestly a large share of why I didn't just take Celebrimbor aside and say "go get it, bring it back here, ask them about fairer conditions for a stay there" is that I do not want you distracted. The entire point of the people like me is that we solve the problems of the people like you so you can work.

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Sigh.

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Go home. Lúthien is competent enough to keep me sane.

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- didn't you want to go out for a bit if they'll let you?

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Yes, but not if you're having a hard time having a restful break.

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I would have a hard time having a restful sleepover with Artanis and Lúthien, at whom I am presently annoyed. I am not presently annoyed at you.

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I want Findekáno. Except not the one I have, the one who trusted me.

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I don't have a spare.

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Didn't think so.

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Look, it is actually a reasonably important component of my mental health that I not be useless and I can't channel all of that into long-term usefulness like interdimensional teleportation. Please just actually tell me if you want me to petition to be allowed to take you out for a bit or not.

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Yes, please.

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Lúthien?

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Uh huh?

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May I take Maedhros out for a flight? I will not leave him unattended.

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Pop to outside our borders, do whatever you'd like as long as it's not a conference with his own people to which you're not invited, pop back and check for weapons?

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Suits me.

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Okay.

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And now she and Maedhros are out in the place where Himring was briefly located and is no longer. "Do you want to fly or just sit or what?"

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He sits down, rests his head between his knees. "Can I get back to you on that? How long do we have?"

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"She didn't list a time limit. We've got leave to do whatever except have you meeting your family without me present."

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"I can't go home, they'd take one look at me and call the whole thing off."

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"I could go to whatever the Nolofinweans are calling their city but I don't know if Lúthien considers that my family too."

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"Didn't specify. Technically you're allowed to talk to them if I'm there though. Presumably it would violate the spirit if I just stood there while you osanwëd people."

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"I don't want to scheme things. That's kind of the opposite of what I want to do. I want to have a social interaction where the fate of the world or at least my family or at least my continuing to not be tortured isn't at stake."
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"- first thing to come to mind is that I could go borrow somebody's toddler."

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"Do toddlers count as social interaction for you? They don't for me."

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"Somebody's seven-year-old, then," she shrugs.

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He stands. "I want Findekáno."
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"You want me to take you to Mithrim or go get him?"

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"Mithrim. His rooms, it'll be a disaster if anyone sees us - I know you have to supervise, it's not going to be like that -"

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"Thank you." She'd probably combust or something. She pops into whichever of Fingon's rooms seems least likely to have him in it unequipped to receive a visitor.

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He's not there. Maedhros is staring around the room fondly, He's coming.

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Loki nods and finds somewhere not obtrusively looming to sit.

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He comes in.

"Loki's chaperoning," Maedhros says, as if the words are complicated and have to be said very precisely. "I needed a break."

"Yeah. You need to lie down. If we put four blankets between us will that -"

"Bit stifling, maybe."

"We can put them all on me, I'm always cold."

Maedhros flinches. Fingon finds four blankets and wraps them around himself in an absurd cocoon and waits until his cousin has crawled into bed and then curls up around him. "Why do we have a chaperone?"

"Not for that reason. It's complicated."

"You should try doing things with your life that are less complicated."

"When the war's over -"

"The infuriating thing is that when the war's over I can't even take you somewhere uncomplicated and sit on you for five hundred years because you'll be traumatized."

"Yes, I would be. But you could take me somewhere uncomplicated and then insist you were staying yourself and trust me to be unwilling to leave."

"I trust you to be a lot of things. ...not unwilling to leave me."

"If you like I will stay right here until we all die."

"I don't think I'd like that at all."

"That's why I offered."

"Vacuously true promises. That's a new one."

"I told Loki I came here because I wanted an interaction where nothing was at stake."

"That was a fine thing to tell Loki but you should tell me it's because you missed my eyes, or my smile, or my personality, or something."

"I need you to stop putting things at stake because right now I can't handle it."

"I haven't been."

"Are we - not at stake, then?"

"We're just waiting on you."

"Might be a while."

"I have a while. Not right now, technically; I marched right out of a meeting and will be missed."

"I didn't ask you to do that."

"You're pretty dreadful at communicating for someone with a reputation for diplomacy."

"Diplomacy isn't about communication."



"Maitimo - I've never been the one putting stakes on the table."

"I know."

"I figured out eventually that saying I'd always be back at the table was my way of taking something off of it. I suppose you know you're thoroughly ensnared when the best way to defy someone you can think of is to love him unconditionally."

"I used to be so proud of myself for that. Of how thorough it was and how easy it had been."

"I know. And knew at the time, actually."

"...I didn't know that."

"You have some blind spots, Maitimo."

"More of them now."

"Why do we have a chaperone?"

"Lúthien is worried I am plotting with my family to assassinate her father."

"...and I'm helping?"

"You count as family."

"I am very pointedly not Fëanáro's kin for Oath-related arbitration."

"Once we get married I wonder if he'll relent on that."

"I wonder if you'll still count."

"I will."

"Because when it mattered you always chose him?"

"Because I am a lot like him."

"Mmmmm."

"You don't see it."

"Not at all."

"Neither of us are very good at being people but we're good at some other things that you can substitute for it. Both of us end up being unsparing of people because we don't know how to be sparing with ourselves. Both of us confuse love with power, I think."

"He's all right, I suppose."

"That wasn't really where I was going with that."

"...he's pretty attractive?"

"Findekáno!"

"You both have dreadful taste in names?"

"Fingon is a very ugly word and I think you should have just picked an epessë."

"You are welcome to give me one. I'll invent a different story about where I got it."

"Thindarin's not a pretty enough language."

And they lie there peaceably for another while longer and then Maedhros says, "Thank you, Loki, I'm ready to go back."
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And unless she can pop very precisely they're going to need Lúthien to come restrain him again.

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She can actually pop that precisely, as long as the chain is somewhere the applicable extremity can fit and not lying on the ground. Takes two pops.

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Even easier. Lúthien comes back and says she thinks she can talk her father around on the chain but probably not today, sorry, is he too uncomfortable?

He is positively glowing. "No, I'll be all right. Thank you."
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"I'll be back in a few weeks, probably," Loki says.

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"I'll see you then."

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And she nods to Lúthien and pops out. Anything she should address before she goes back in the hole?

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They ask after Maedhros.

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She took him out for a bit and he looked happier after that. Lúthien has been singing to him, which Loki hears secondhand is very soothing.

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Some raised eyebrows, but okay. Good focus, Loki.

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Into the hole with her.

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This time nothing disturbs her.

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She can tolerate six months subjective.
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Eight weeks of real time.

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And nothing much came up/meteored down in that time?

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The Enemy tried the same thing twice more, once against New Himring and once against New Mithrim. Celebrimbor stopped both.

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Good for him.

She pops out to visit Maedhros.
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Maedhros is not chained to a wall. There are more guards, and he's wearing the sound baffle, but he seems in much brighter spirits anyway.

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Hi. How're you holding up?

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Alright. Talked to Elu. It was not disastrous. I think I need - hmm, maybe ten more of that? but I have no control over whether he comes to visit. They insisted on ridiculous precautions for the visit but it didn't seem to bother him.

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Ridiculous precautions like what?

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Sound baffle, leg and arm shackles, pat-down search which I did not flinch at in the slightest, room full of armed guards. I can't even blame them because if Father were here he probably would have build some kind of miniature railgun in a groove in the floor at this point.

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I am going to find you the nicest fucking vacation planet.

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They were debating whether to drag me out to go meet him somewhere I couldn't possibly have rigged to explode on us. I was glad they didn't do that. I think they're legitimately very ill at ease and are hoping I'll just go away if they're abominable enough.

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Speaking of going away, do you want another pop out?

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Yes.

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Lúthien, I'm taking Maedhros out for another airing, okay?

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Yes.

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Fingon again? she asks him.

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Hmm? No, I can't be that demanding, someone might notice and he'd probably find it tiresome. I want to go to a mountain where there are echoes and sing.

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So she plops them on a mountainside. South continent, middle of nowhere.

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And he sings for several hours. Not magical songs, just loud and stirring and pretty ones.

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They're nice. She records them for listening to while she is stuck in accelerated perception; variety is good.

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"Ready to go back," he says, "and you shouldn't even bother, Cáno's a thousand times better."

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"I have listened to all the recordings I have of his enough to contemplate improvising harmony, which is a high bar to clear considering my lack of musicianship." She pops him back.

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So ask him for more, he says, putting he necklace on, he's got thousands of hours of songs. And good luck.

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Thanks.

Back, she tells Lúthien. How are you doing?
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Good! You saw we got him out, Mother's mostly back with it, everyone's safe. All I could want. You?

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Getting lots of work done. The other teleporter took care of a couple more rocks, I'm hoping the Enemy gets the hint that it's not working.

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And does something else?

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And maybe takes a few years to think of a something else.

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How many years do you need?

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- original estimate in sidereal time fifty to two hundred, narrowed since then to fifty to seventy-five, first twenty or so of that knocked down already, factor of three in the hole, partway there - If I assume I'm not interrupted by many things that require my personal attention one way or another, could be ten years, could be more than that.

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Okay. We'll hang on.

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To mention or not to mention that if they provoke a war by being contemptible idiots this will certainly constitute something that demands Loki's personal attention. Good.

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The response would in any event have been the ever-unhelpful 'we're not Kinslayers'.

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No doubt. I'll be back in a few weeks, unless there's anything I should stick around for.

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Invitations are again extended to stay over any time.

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Rain check on the princess sleepover. Maybe once they can invite Thor.

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Nothing drags her out of acceleration. Three missiles at a time? No problem. Ten? Just as easy. Missiles shot continuously for a day? No problem. The two target cities have effective communication. The Dwarves are grumpily digging themselves back underground where Dwarves belong and where that sort of thing cannot happen.

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Poor Dwarves.

She pushes; she manages to stay under for three months real time. She thinks she has a handle on the scope of the problem and the rest should just be filling in.

(She makes sure to thank Celebrimbor when she's between months-in-the-hole.)

She visits Maedhros and takes him out wherever he'd like to be when she's having a break.
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Maedhros is in a good mood; he thinks his project is proceeding, at inscrutable Elf pace. This time he'd like to go flying.

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Flying it is! Here is some sky.

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And two swifts, and some aerial acrobatics.

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Wheeeee!

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Doing all right?

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I can keep it up long enough. I'm probably going to need a vacation planet stint myself after it's over, but I can do it.

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I should have saved half the girls for this stretch, or something.

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I should've. I'm not used to rationing. It's all right, I'll drag Sigyn off and emerge four days later.

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When you said 'not interested more than once' I thought you meant 'strong way of communicating I won't be interested in a relationship' not literally 'once I have slept with a girl I'll never want to do it again.'

I'm sure Sigyn will be relieved you're alive.
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It's entirely possible that eventually all the relevant parts of my brain will decide that, no, this time is not going to be different, and then I won't want to sleep with girls even once per. Convenient that it hadn't happened yet when I landed.

And yes he will.
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Shame we didn't get you both. And a bit mysterious.

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You know what I half-hope half-suspect?

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What?

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Tesseract did it. Which, I would like to know why it sent me alone, but if it sent me at all that suggests that insofar as I may anthropomorphize it, it finds me interesting. It would explain why the Bifrost did this unprecedented thing and couldn't be used to fetch me back.

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And makes it likelier it'll be amenable to helping us when we need it.

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Exactly. It probably didn't send me on an extradimensional adventure just to toast me when I try to pick it up. But this is wild guessing.

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I shudder to think where we'd be without you.

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- I don't know.

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I think Macalaurë and Nolofinwë would have avoided going to war. I don't think they'd have done anything more constructive than that.

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Well, 'not war' isn't the worst case scenario.

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I have a nearly unparalleled capacity to think up worse. But they'd have eventually lost the war.

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How long an eventually?

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Too hard to say. Thauron would probably have spent a century with the Men if you hadn't disrupted him, if he was trying to make them powerful enough to sway fate. It might have been peaceful up until the day it ended; it might have been a slow and bitter defeat. Perhaps he'd have taken some of them alive as presents for me; it was one of his favorite things to offer me.

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Also one of his favorite hallucinations, you know, very low effort.

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Osanwë: useful for sighing while a bird. Nicest vacation planet. All expenses paid. Inadvisable amounts of - I was going to say dessert but for all I know that's still screwed up too.

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I can't actually think of things I'd enjoy. Some are much more endurable than others, moment-to-moment, and I go with that. I think eventually that'll change.

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Hopefully.

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If not, the current plan is that if I decide I want to kill myself I will instead touch your Tesseract and see if it's willing to either do the job or change something.

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...Well, it's not normally set off by velvet ropes and a 'do not touch' sign, so that might be difficult depending on where it winds up after I've gone for it, but I suppose that's at least a creative method.

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I am not sure if you are underestimating our resourcefulness or if it tends to drop off the radar for Ages.

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I'm not even sure it's still where I last saw it. I'm betting on Heimdall telling me where it's gone if it isn't; she's always been very decent to me. If it's moved again after I put it down, someone will know where it is but it might not be me and they might not tell you. I do not think Heimdall will be impressed by the need to commit dramatic suicide-by-infinity-gem.

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I'll upset you if I point out I can read minds.

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I'm not sure what you'd make of hers. She sees everything. Well, I presume it's dimension-limited, but still.

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With competence it's easy to filter for only and exactly the information you're interested in. Harder to do that without the person noticing anything, and everywhere understood to be unacceptable behavior, but not difficult.

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Yes, well, please don't read Heimdall's mind anyway. You realize that a bad interaction with an infinity gem can have collateral damage?

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In how wide a surrounding radius?

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I'm planning to get a force hood for air and grab it on an uninhabited moon as long as I can teleport things I'm not touching. Not a pretty moon, either.

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Noted.

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There are any number of creative ways to get yourself killed-or-question-mark in the galaxy.

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And lots of people have claim to me for the next very long time and by the time they don't I might sometimes like being alive.

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Here's hoping.

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An odd pause. Rescuing me was worthwhile anyway, I've repaid you for that with something other than my happiness.

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I'm not complaining that you were a bad investment. I just wish you were happy.

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When I'm free it seems almost achievable. Perhaps if I'm free for a long enough time.

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Mm.

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This is worth it, though, and working. Working on the Elven pace that now seems so excruciatingly slow to me, but I am confident of eventual success.

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This being your stint in Doriath?

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Yes.

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I'm so curious what the process is like. I don't think I'd understand it even if I sat there the entire time eavesdropping.

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See, to me people are far more obvious and intuitive than arcane alphabets.

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I had help with the arcane alphabet.

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I think I have help with people. I certainly have something my father doesn't.

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I'm not sure a talent counts as 'help'?

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Elu's a decent person. I can imagine being the sort of person who was loyal to him. That might be the main edge I have over you, it's much easier for me to imagine being undying loyal to a wide variety of people you'd instantly size up as not worth that.

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The closest I come to that trick is imagining that people are entirely justified in thinking themselves in the right by the expedient of pretending they said something with better implications. I leaned on that hard when it started sounding like they were going to try to trap me in Doriath. Surely they couldn't have sounded like that because they meant it, you see, that would be thinking too little of them.

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No, it's - I'm Elu's, why is that true, why do I feel that way and how do I react to that and if the only thing I care about in the world is making him his best self, what kind of person do I end up being. It's not thinking better of them, it's assuming you've chosen them anyway.

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- wouldn't fit in my head the way I have it set up.

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Yes, that's what I thought.

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Oh well.

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You seem to get along alright without it.

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I make do. I'm rather underequipped for the job it seems like Odin was raising me for, though...

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Want help?

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Maybe.

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I think my father's planning to spend a couple centuries just learning everything he can get his hands on, though he promised me he'd get me teleportation first.

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Once I've got interdimensionality you can have mine, possibly unless the oath's still in force at the time and it would make something Silmaril-related really awkward.

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The most appealing aspect is actually the indelibility - that no one could take it away from me, that I could not ever under any circumstances be conscious and a prisoner -

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- that, mine might not do if you're relying on an eidetic necklace, but there's probably some less extricable eidetic memory solution somewhere to be had.

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Father promised he'd find me one after the war. Unprompted, actually. I said that I liked the idea of teleportation and he pieced together the rest.

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All right.

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It's nice even having it to look forward to.

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Shall we head back?

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If you're done.

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The Oath does steadily get worse with time.

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She pops them to the ground, debirds them, pops them back to Doriath.

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He wishes her good luck with her research.

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And she goes back in the hole.

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Uninterrupted.

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- she could probably push longer, but she only spends a fairly short time adjusting and visiting, and she doesn't want to space out the visits too much. She pops out eight weeks later.

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They have true seeing floating in the sky. Not enough of it, but the proof of concept is up, and they're working on getting more out.

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Shadowcatchers stay for now?

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Yep. Thanks.

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And how's Maedhros?

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Alone, for once, when she pops in.

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Whoa, you got them to leave you un-stared-at.

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It's something. How's it coming?

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I'm optimistic I'll hit the low end of my estimate.

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Congratulations. Can we visit Fingon today?

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Sure.

Pop.
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This time he takes a little longer to join them. "You know, you could give me a time in advance."

"I don't know it," Maedhros says.

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"I'm settling out to a once-every-eight-weeks schedule but time of day is really pushing it," Loki shrugs.

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"And I can't take a day off that often." He sighs. "Thank you all the same." And then he is not paying her any attention at all.

"You look better."

"I think I am interested in trying not having four layers of blankets, if you are willing to hold very still and not be startling."

"How goes not assassinating Thingol?"

"He's a very nice person once you get to know him."

"Is he?"

"No."
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Loki politely ignores them back. Ho hum notebooking notebooking. She can do this in the hole too but she mostly doesn't.

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Maedhros cheerfully accompanies her back. "You should probably have spent more time exploring the space of things you can do with your breaks, I"m sure there are things more refreshing than this."

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"I fit in other things; I can do a lot in a day. I usually fly a bit. Having recovered from the no-swordfighting portion of the adjustment period I may see if anybody wants to spar today, wouldn't want to go home all rusty."

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"You probably no longer have so embarrassing an advantage of us in that; they've been training extensively, even though at this point no one really expects it to come to hand-to-hand fighting."

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"So that'll make it fun and I won't have to see if four people want to spar."

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"Give them my best."

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"Will do. See you in eight weeks."

Pop.

Anybody want to swordfight? She can do no magic swordfights to be fair. She can even have her sword be one shape the whole time, although she's actually partial to polearms if she's not going to change it around.
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This is still not going to be anything resembling a fair fight. There are volunteers anyway.

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She'll take on a group if they like! She's in this for fun, not to make them look bad.

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"We're not really in the habit of getting angry at people for being more skilled than us," Celegorm says, "group might be more fun, though."

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"Whatever you like. Although if I'm fighting more than five people I do want to be allowed to reshape the thing, I base a lot of my strategy around it."

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They try three on one with a fixed sword, and six on one without, and everyone has a lovely afternoon and to their annoyance can't scratch Loki.

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Excellent. She gives everyone suggestions and goes back in the hole.

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They finish the early warning system. They start on another one for the other city. They even grudgingly set a production schedule that'll let them make one for Doriath.

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That's very magnanimous of them.

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I'm sure there are people within Doriath who do not deserved to be flattened by a city-leveling bomb, is Fëanor's comment on that.

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It's true.

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Maitimo's there.

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And they've had children born there in recent memory and so on.

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There are Dwarves there, too. Dwarves are lovely.

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The ones in Doriath are not quite as friendly as the others I've met, but yes, Dwarves are really great.

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Would living in Doriath make you inclined towards friendliness towards Elves?

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They weren't as friendly to me either. They did like me all right once I gave them a metallurgy lecture but managed to neglect the part where information's the kind of thing you pay for if you're a Dwarf.

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You can ask Maitimo to teach the Dwarves manners while he's there, he probably doesn't have enough to do.

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I'll tell him you said that.

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You spent quite a while with him and haven't mentioned much. I can't tell if that's him being circumspect with you or you being circumspect with me.

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Some of both and some there's not all that much to say. I recorded him singing at a mountain because I was there anyway and it didn't cost out-of-the-hole time like soliciting from Maglor. Aerobatics are fun. He mentioned you're going to get him an inextricable eidetic memory so he can have teleportation stuck on really thoroughly.

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I really like it when interpersonal problems have technological fixes, and that seems to be one.

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I approve entirely.

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He spends his breaks flying and singing?

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She does not say "and snuggling his boyfriend with progressively fewer obstacles". Yeah.

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I'd generally find that worrying but I suppose perhaps he has friends in Menegroth.

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As far as I can tell he's charming the socks off everybody he meets, in more or less time depending.

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He thinks I don't bother but I actually couldn't replicate that.

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It's really impressive!

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Thank you for checking in on him nonetheless. Friends one needs for political ends aren't the same as people you can actually let down your guard around.

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You're welcome.

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Eight weeks.

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And another visit.

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Maedhros is wearing a Silmaril. He is also chained to the wall again, but seems to regard this as a worthy tradeoff. It occurred to Thingol that the Oath is satisfied if the Silmaril is definitely mine and I am thoroughly their prisoner, and that I'd be obliged to agree to practically anything to get that deal. Thingol believes that this occurred to him totally uninfluenced and I am inclined for him to continue doing so.

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I won't tell him.

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Means I really cannot leave, though.

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So no taking you out for an airing, then.

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Stay and talk? I enjoy your company. How is everyone?

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Sure. Everyone's all right. I managed to avoid telling your father that you sometimes spent your breaks snuggling your ambiguously affianced. I got in a lovely bit of sparring. Three on one without me allowed to shift Lævateinn, six on one with. I won. Have I mentioned I really like my 'magic sword'?

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Please do not tell my father that. I will, after the war, but before then it'd be a disaster. At a guess he'd assume it's something the Enemy did to me and I now can't say no to and tell Findekáno he considers our family qualified under the circumstances to press that grievance for me since I'm not of sound mind and -

I can give you cover stories for how I'm spending my breaks if they're needed. You have mentioned that you like your magic sword. I am sure there've been numerous requests of our engineers that they figure out how to replicate it.
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I knew better than to tell him! I told him you spent your breaks flying and singing, and now I suppose I will tell him you spend your time wearing the Silmaril. Nobody's come to me about how it was made, which is just as well since I have no idea, it was just lying around, I think, and I got it for killing my first scary thing. It's more or less the only time I got the impression Odin was paying any attention to what I'd like. It's not nearly the equal of my sister's hammer, but it's more my stylistic match by a long shot.

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Thank you.

What was the first scary thing you killed?
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Wyvern that was bothering a town. My sister and her friends were along but I thought I could take it so I had them stand back. I had its tail made into a dagger, too, but I used it in a feint in the first fight with Sauron and never wound up going back for it.

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I think I have yet to kill any scary things. Orcs don't count. Is it satisfying?

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Being considered an adult was. The town not being bothered by a wyvern anymore was. Having ensorceled and practiced my way to the ability to kill a wyvern was. The wyvern being dead was pretty incidental to the satisfaction.

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Fair enough.

Thauron - that was satisfying independent of its positive consequences.
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Oh yes. That was. But the wyvern was a dumb animal and he definitely deserved it.

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I wonder if the Maiar are enough like us to feel afraid. Or regretful.

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No idea.

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Can you bring me books? Now that my job here is well in the works and I have time for another project? Everything that demonstrates the passage of time or that conclusively couldn't have been produced without you really being from Asgard...
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- that didn't even occur to me, yes, sure, there's loads of copies of things floating around, the Men have been doing plenty of printing and scribing and I can just take a copy of everything. I can go get a selection right now if you like.

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It wasn't my priority because I don't really need to know. But yes, please.

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She pops out, raids a bookstore, pops back with a stack of miscellanea.

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Thank you.
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You're welcome.

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I'll save them for later, though. He smiles at her. Company's rarer than reading material.

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Are you not getting visited enough?

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Lúthien feels badly about the chain being back and expects you'll be furious about that and the silence and I can't exactly tell her that I maneuvered her father into it and so do not hold it against him. So she comes and sings but is otherwise much happier to run errands for me than be in my presence. Elu comes but he likes lecturing, not talking.

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I can break the illusion on the necklace unless you think that would do something unfortunate to your bargaining position or something.

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Oh, it doesn't bother me, it's one of those things that's far more symbolically demeaning than actually unpleasant and given that Elu's going to insist on some amount of shows of power he may as well stick to ones like that. The chain only bothers me because I've had a harder-than-I-should-have-had time correcting my brain about its expectations.

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Sigh. Right, what's my line about why I haven't broken the illusion then? I assume it's not 'oh, if you're going to be repulsive about treatment of prisoners it might as well be like so'.

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You ask the King's leave to break the illusion, obviously.

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Think he'll grant it?

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I do not. But if he does, we get the illusion broken with no cost to Thingol, and if he doesn't, you get currency with him for obeying his orders even when you obviously needn't.

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Fair enough.

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And either way Lúthien will probably stop feeling so apologetic in my presence, which will be nice, because she's perfectly good company when trying.

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Is she actually apologetic to you per se or just wringing her hands about my reaction?

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More the latter. You have to understand, if I'd met a Kinslayer thirty years ago I'd have had a very hard time thinking what to say.

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You at a loss for something to say to somebody, what an image. Why is the emphasis so firmly on kin?

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Cuivienen. At the time the absolute ability to rely on each other was a matter of life and death, the absoluteness of the taboo on violence against each other except as retaliation for same was the only thing that could keep us alive as a people...

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Doesn't explain why the magic word isn't just, 'murder'.

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You can tell Allspeak to translate the word that way, if it'll make you less annoyed with everyone who keeps saying it.

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I suppose, but it's not making an actual translation error.

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It is not. The word we use for the gravest crime we know means 'killing of kin' not 'killing of people'. I am not for that any less a murderer.

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I'd sooner not lull myself into a sense that my status as honorary kin would hold up if anyone glared at it.

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Your status as the only person who stands a chance of winning this war holds up a little better.

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That gives me strategic and not moral value.

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I don't think Elu regards anyone outside his nation as having moral value. It being impermissible to kill them isn't a claim to personhood on their behalf.

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That actually hadn't occurred to me but does not really help.

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Me I think they're planning to kill, though trying not to think about it too hard. They are still perfectly good company.

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Would there be more than eight weeks' warning?

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The trial's supposed to be after the war.

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Oh, good, you had me worried there.

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I'd be working with different priorities if I thought anything was going to happen before then!

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You're inclined enough to indifference about your survival. What would you be doing?

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If Doriath executed me unprovoked with no warning to you my father would attack Doriath. I am very interested in avoiding that outcome. Thingol's not subtle enough for it to occur to him to make it look like suicide.

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Does he have anybody on staff who'd think of it?

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If they knew I'd been in the hands of the Enemy, yes. Without that, no, suicide isn't a thing healthy Elves do...

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I really feel like it should count for more that he did not let you go.

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Want to argue the point with him? I'm not particularly worried I'm going to snap and kill anyone, I am worried that if it were known I was in a reference class that does that, someone would think of making it look like I did.

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No, I'm not going to bring it up with him. It's come up in conversations with others.

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My family ignored the possibility but would, I think, have done so even if I'd been released.

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That was my impression too.

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We have a family habit of willful indifference on some topics that's often quite dangerous but occasionally very reassuring.

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...anything in the first category I should be looking out for?

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Well, if the evidence suggested I was still in the power of Morgoth, my father'd pointedly not care. When the Enemy communicates with him he likewise acts as if he never heard it. That approach is not actually unexploitable.

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Hm.

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He looks down fondly at the Silmaril. If I see an occasion arise where I think it's harmful, I'll point it out.

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Thanks.

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Lúthien arrives a few minutes later. Sees Loki, blanches. "Hi. He said he was okay with it, in exchange for the Silmaril."

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"And I haven't broken the illusion," Loki says. "Although I'm inclined to ask permission to do so, if your father has time to see me during my break."

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"I expect he'd love to. Thank you." She relaxes. "How are you?"

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"As I have been, more or less, nothing much came up in the past few weeks. Yourself?"

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"Good. Mum's feeling better. Doriath's still safe. Sleepover offer is still open."

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"Do you have an agenda for this sleepover besides 'be princesses'?"

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"Have a strategic conversation in a less fraught context, make sure there's not obvious things not being shared because you're frustrated with us and haven't thought to mention them, or vice versa..."

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"I suppose I can stay over tonight unless something comes up."

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"Thank you," she says sincerely. I know I was more likable when I had no political power at all but I'd rather make decisions you hold against me than have no chance to make them at all.

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I'd make that tradeoff myself. Just somewhat different political decisions.

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Come meet Father?

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All right. And Loki waves at Maedhros and follows Lúthien.

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Thingol and Melian are not on their thrones, for once, but sweeping majestically - and it really is quite a sight - down the halls. "Loki," Thingol says gravely.

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"Your Majesty. How are you today?"

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'I am well, thank you. You?"

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"As ever. May I ask you something about Maedhros's conditions?"

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"Certainly."

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"While he's restrained" (lookit her not saying "chained to a fucking wall") "it seems redundant to have him also silenced; I would appreciate your leave to break the illusion on the necklace he's wearing."

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"We consented after long discussion to have the Silmaril in his custody, so that his foolish Oath is fully satisfied; I do not know what he could do with it, given the opportunity, and desire to take whatever precautions I can to protect my people."

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"I see."

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"We desired originally to keep him from tinkering with it, but restraining both hands seemed unkind. I understand and admire your compassion for the Kinslayer, but I think he's holding up fine."

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"Have you more news from Ulmo, or from Círdan?"

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"The last thing I heard from Ulmo is that he doesn't mind me teleporting fish out of the ocean to feed people and I haven't spoken to Círdan recently. If you wish to convey something to them I can relay the messages."

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"Only my regards and concern, in these troubled times."

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Nod.

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"Did you have other concerns, Loki? I'd be eager to hear some petitions that aren't about the Kinslayer's treatment."

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"Nothing else comes to mind."

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"All right. Eru keep you, then."

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"Thank you." And she falls out of step and rejoins Lúthien. I do not have leave to break the illusion. Does he really buy that I'm more than humoring him? she sends Maedhros.

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Yes, he does. He's had a thousand years where his word actually was law, it's a hard habit of thought to break. I really don't mind. They considered much worse.

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Do I want to know?

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How do you stop the Noldo from fiddling with his Silmaril, while letting him keep it around his neck? Well, you could chain his arms to the ceiling, that'd do it, or behind his back...

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Eugh.

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I think certain people enjoy trying to get a reaction out of me. It's really fine, though. They quite literally can't do anything that shocks me even slightly.

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Shock per se is not the thing that I worry about.

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It takes a lot even to get me to the point of diminished effectiveness.

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That is not most of what I worry about.

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It might mean another few years pass before I let Findekáno hold me down, I really don't think that's worth worrying about either.

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She drops it with a sigh.

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Lúthien is watching her worriedly.

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"Don't worry about it," Loki tells her.

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Please don't cancel the illusion. He'd never trust you again.

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I won't. If I were going to do that without permission I would do it without asking permission.

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Thank you.

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You're welcome.

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I really do think he's okay.

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I hope you're right.

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...or else?

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I am not threatening you. We would reach the point where I would remove him from you well before we would reach the point where violence was called for. Let's stay well clear of both.

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You can take him anytime, just leave the Silmaril.

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I know he's not going to agree to that. You could do it anyway.

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I could.

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I do sort of think it'd be kinder to have refused altogether, but we gave them a choice and they made this one.

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Thank you for respecting that.

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He's kind of easier to push around than I imagined a kinslayer being. Makes you feel really guilty.

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I don't know why you thought you had information about what he'd be like based on having identified a crime he committed.

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There was also Galadriel's description.

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Not likely optimized for unbiased fact.

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I'm realizing that. She thinks he's manipulating us even now, that he pushes my father into being harsh specifically so we'll all feel guilty about it.

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Maedhros is very charismatic and insightful, but I find it convenient that Galadriel's story casts herself as the only person clever to see through him.

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She's also the person who's known him the longest.

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Of the three of us, sure.

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Of everyone in Doriath. And she hints at knowing a lot more than what she's said.

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You know I sometimes get information from outside of Doriath, right? I have what may be a genuinely unique ability to collect many sides of stories.

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Is it true that he's more in charge of the Kinslayers' decisions on a day-to-day basis than his father? Is it true that he threw himself wholeheartedly into a series of bald-faced lies to cover his family departing with the ships, until they were all across and could light them on fire? That he killed children, on the beaches? That he's a homosexual, that he kept people in line in Tirion with blackmail to that effect, that he spent several hundred years pulling strings on both sides of the Finwean succession dispute in his father's favor expecting his father to get himself killed and leave the crown in his hands?

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I don't know the answers to all those questions and the ones I do know I'm not going to tell you.

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I'm trying to do right by everyone in Middle-earth, Loki, including him, but having more information would really help with that.

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I cannot think of any way in which doing right by everyone in Middle-earth requires you to know whether or not your prisoner is a homosexual.

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So she's right.

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Among many other things she touched on one of my pet complaints about Elf culture; everything else on the list is less overwhelmingly balanced toward the personal and away from the strategic. You have no idea how stupid it sounds to me to even care.

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Eru cares.

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And he sounds very stupid to me for doing so, if in fact the Valar didn't garble that somehow.

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Well, you can withhold information that in your opinion is irrelevant, and others can decide that it's relevant to them.

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This is indeed is a thing that can happen.

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She says the alternative is that he isn't and just seduced men for political reasons. If you think that's any better.

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Loki.

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What.

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I assume not all possible Oath-bound people you could have sent us have such a particularly notorious and manipulative reputation. So why this one?

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I'm sure Galadriel could have come up with malicious things to say about any of them. This one volunteered.

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My father and Finwë were involved, by Cuivienen, when no one knew any better. It's an oddly charged choice on Maedhros' part. Unless they're all like that, I suppose.

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I find I have lost my appetite for a princess sleepover. Maybe I'll see if I can find a girl who declines to know any better.
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Do you think that when we met the gods and they said "no, that's not how you're supposed to work", we should have said "oh,really, too bad"? How far do people have to defy everything they know and have ever learned just for you to think they're worth having as friends?
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Feel entirely free not to sleep with any girls, Lúthien. I wouldn't dream of thinking less of you for it; it's not any of my business.

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I can't anyway, everyone likes me because of the music so it wouldn't really be fair to them. You're willfully misunderstanding me.

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I'm not saying 'you have an unpalatable opinion, I cannot be your friend'. I am saying 'this topic puts me in an atrocious mood and that on top of my not caring much for Galadriel and her font of sadistic gossip in the first place mean that I do not want to engage in the originally planned activity today'. I am saying 'I wonder if you would talk about this any differently if you knew more about what it sounds like to me when you say things like that'.

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I would, and will, and am trying to. You're acting like - people making a hard personal decision to do what they know is right, now that they do - is some kind of malicious thing, instead of a brave and commendable one. We didn't change so you'd feel judged.

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Malicious, not necessarily. Brave, maybe. Commendable, no, I see nothing to commend. The entire thing is tragic.

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I'll give you that.

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I could have presented myself as a god to the Men if I'd wanted. They didn't know any better, you see. I could have told them anything. And if they hadn't waited for an explanation, a real explanation, before they believed me about whatever fool thing I might have said, that would have been wasteful of their intellects. 'Eru said so' is not a real explanation.

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And would you lose respect for them if they did listen to what you told them? If they failed to think critically enough and trusted you?

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In the hypothetical where I was inclined to lie to them, perhaps not. If someone impersonated me now and told them something stupid? Yes, I would be very disappointed.

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There are other explanations. I'll just annoy you if I give them.
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If you think they're that unconvincing, then probably.

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I've found them mostly only partially satisfactory. It's not an issue to which I'd given a great deal of thought, beyond being sort of glad we hadn't made it to Valinor. We don't enforce the rules about only one marriage, either, even though the Valar think that one's of even greater importance."

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That one's silly too, but if I had to pick one it would be the lesser concern.

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Why's that? It hurt a lot more people, by the numbers.

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I'm not convinced you're getting accurate numbers, but you could change my mind in the case of Elves in particular if you have reliable statistics on that; the skew would be the other way around on Asgard.

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Plural marriages were really common besides Cuivienen. For stability's sake. People who can't wed at all now that the rules are known because they only like the same gender are very rare, maybe one in two hundred?

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If I take your word for it on that then my instinct was backwards for the species.

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We are different from Asgardians. Maybe what's right for us is different too.

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I haven't the foggiest idea what you mean by 'right' when you say that.

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Yeah, me neither.

I'll tell Galadriel that she shouldn't say that to people, even though she's probably right.
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It is loosely possible she'll listen to you.

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She told me she didn't say it in general because it's an awful thing to say even of a Kinslayer but that she felt like he was flirting with me so I ought to know.

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Do you feel flirted-with?

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I told you, everyone falls in love with me, and I can't even experiment because it's all the songs making them do it. He's been friendly, not forward. I like him and sort of trust him and want him to have the chance to set right the wrongs he did, and he's very open with me, and if he weren't a Kinslayer and there weren't a war on I guess I could imagine liking him that way.

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I'd actually hold off on liking people that way if I were you, I may have derailed what I was told about your fate but it involved target-nonspecific romantic drama and I don't know what tendencies it would have played on.

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...noted. I am pretty thoroughly constrained between the 'father'd throw a fit' and the 'I've sung to all of them' problems, and there is the war, I really was not planning on it.

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It's not slated to come up for a while in the original trajectory.

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I promise you that even if I thought he were delightful and he were normal I wouldn't be involved with someone who's chained to my wall, either.

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Oh good.

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Galadriel says she won't warn anyone who he's not particularly well-positioned to toy with.

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I suppose that's not literally nothing.

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I can ask him if he wants to talk with her.

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On that I have no opinion.

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On whether I should ask him?

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I don't have opinions on literally everything.

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You know him a lot better than I do.

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And I imagine that if he really wanted or needed to talk to Galadriel he'd ask, but he may not have much information on what she's been saying, and he might read into being asked if he'd like to speak to her, and overall I do not have an opinion.

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Okay.

I'm sorry I hurt your feelings.
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I know you didn't set out to do so.

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I'm going to go sing to some fields of corn or something now.



Loki,
Maedhros says, Is there a reason I should talk to my cousin?
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Galadriel? She's been spreading various malicious gossip and I had a sharp conversation with Lúthien about the strategic irrelevance of whether or not you are a homosexual and it wound up at her asking if I thought she should ask you if you'd like to talk to Galadriel and I said I had no opinion. Still haven't. I don't know if you could get anywhere with her.

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Oh, I can get somewhere with her. Thank you.
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You're welcome.

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Want to watch?

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I won't get in your way?

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I hear you can turn invisible or something.

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Ah, so you mean do I want to eavesdrop. Sure, why not.

Invisibility. Pop.
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She walks in a few minutes later. Looks around.

"Maedhros."

He sends the words to Loki, too, because why not.

Hello. I'd like to give you some more compelling and exciting ammunition. You must have realized by now that the Noldor are currently in a succession dispute only as a matter of courtesy; my father's sworn not to hurt anyone but I haven't, and with the weapons at our disposal at this point no one need actually die anyway, if I decided I wanted them alive. Which I might decide, and if I did we could put the whole city to sleep and wake up your family in Himring's basement. I'm doing it this way because it's more fun, and if you make this way stop being fun, I don't think you win. So what are you playing at?
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...do Silmarils put people to sleep too? What?

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Galadriel doesn't share her answer with a listener, because she doesn't know there is one.

I want you to keep your accusations against me to the following: I am an unrepentant mass murderer. Thingol should be frightened of me. I am scary and probably plotting something. Those ones are useful, and you're welcome to keep them up. You're also welcome to tell people I'm fucking my cousin, if you tell them which one; I'd be delighted if you'd stop implying I'm flirting with Lúthien, because that suggests an insultingly stupid view of my goals here. You like these people. I'm currently planning to leave them alive. It really seems like we should be on better terms.
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They stare at each other. After a minute she turns and leaves.

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Is there some way unbeknownst to me you could put the city to sleep?

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No, of course not. We share all our capabilities research with you.

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But it's credible to her.

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And won't be credible to the people who I don't want to hear certain other things from her.

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Did she say anything interesting?

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I think she's sincerely trying to do right by her chosen people here, and just very bad at it.

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Your guess would be better than mine, I suppose.

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Anyway, at a guess there'll be no more anything and if there is something it'll contain enough obvious nonsense that I think I'm safe enough.


Your books include enough about biological weapons that we probably could figure out how to put cities to sleep if we pleased.
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Seems unlikely you could get Melian that way.

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Oh, I wouldn't go after Doriath; Galadriel's brothers are in New Mithrim. And I also don't start conflicts unless the Enemy is quite literally Moringotho, but she doesn't believe that so there's no point in pleading it.

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I'm also not sure bioweapons would work normally on Quendi, but it's less of a long shot.

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If there weren't so many more pressing problems a way to nonlethally disable large populations would be worth looking into. As it stands it'd be a pointlessly provocative avenue of research when there are so many that have more applications against the Enemy.

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Yep.

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I promise you I'd never start a fight, even a definitely nonlethal one, unless there existed no other way to achieve my goals and the goals themselves were 'end an evil god' scale. It is useful to have a reputation for being slightly easier than that to provoke.

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Yeah, I get that.

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I also do occasionally enjoy asking 'would Findekáno forgive me if' and 'I carried out two simultaneous coups to end up in charge of the united Noldor' is one fun such scenario.

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...would he, do you suppose?

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If both were bloodless and I could satisfy him that I could really have been sufficiently sure in advance that they would be, accounting for how infrequently plans go that cleanly. Otherwise he wouldn't, and wouldn't pretend to, but he'd stay with me anyway to protect his people. That would be such a horrifying outcome it more than cancels any occasional temptation to try.

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Oh dear.

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It could be worse; if the situation were reversed I wouldn't forgive him but would pretend to.

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Well, I don't think he's planning a double coup.

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Not really his style, is it?

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Nope.

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If I could have had everything in place in time to stop my father from burning the ships I'd have done it. I can't think of anything less that would make it worth it.

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Mm.

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...comment?

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Not particularly verbal pensive mood over here.

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Your mother?

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I'm not popular enough to pull off a coup, especially not when Thor's older and more locally exemplary and also not secretly a frost giant sorceress. My plan was always to wait for Odin to die and then be queen if she'd named me successor, elsewise advise Thor insofar as I could and sort of seek my fortune in the broader galaxy. I was always the one who fielded ambassadors and people requesting foreign aid and anthropologists and interplanetary merchants and people like that; we have to let a certain number of them in to not fall into such obscurity that people start thinking nobody would care if they started a war with us and to maintain a certain standard of knowledge about the galaxy we live in, but Odin found them tedious and Thor would have found it worse and I always really wanted to talk to them. I'm not grafted to my home planet the way you are to your family. I could just leave and stay gone, if it wasn't the most efficient place for me to progress.

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My family and my people.

That makes sense.
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I considered bailing early, but 'not actually ruled out as successor to queendom of a planet' is a fairly efficient place to be for many purposes.

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I can imagine. Where would you have gone?

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Depends. I have a soft spot for Midgard and could have tried to joggle it along in its development - hopefully less, erm, explosively, than was called for here - but only if Odin didn't care what I was doing. Midgard is sort of loosely a protectorate of Asgard in almost the sense that Elu could be said to rule people outside the borders of Doriath on the continent of Beleriand except that a couple of times Asgard did actually drive invaders off the place and the Midgardians by and large don't know we exist. I could have dug up another less protectoratelike planet in similar straits. I could have gone to some really cosmopolitan political unit, Nova or something, explored my options there.

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I suppose for the details I should consult all these lovely books you've brought me.

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I don't have anything in there about Nova, it seemed even more thoroughly incidental than the fiction, but I can print some up next time I'm bored of spellcraft in the acceleration hole.

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I'm not planning to immediately meddle anywhere, I'm going to build us our own civilization and help make sure Father's ruling it responsibly and then find somewhere where I'm actually wanted as help.

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If Odin means to leave me poised to end the war with the frost giants I could use help there for sure.

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Findekáno will make a face at me if I drag him off to a frost planet.


But I'd like that very much.
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He can park in orbit in a nice warm spaceship?

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I actually do not have a very clear picture of what he will want. A nice warm spaceship might be a good start.

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I don't know that Jötunheim isn't one of those places where ambassadoring is typically done in couples, I guess that would be inconvenient.

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Are there places like that? And it'd be fine if the couple were-

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There are - according to the ambassadorial couple I talked to it's a very effective strategy, if narrowing of one's pool of diplomats - and depends on the place.

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Findekáno will be unhappy relegated to taking care of me while I flit around conquering things that seem to require it, and has a higher standard for things requiring conquering enough to motivate him to take up a sword - or equivalent - but if the work was interesting and important not as an accessory to mine he might like it.

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Shall I float the idea to him, then?

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Yes, please. I think he still hasn't gotten used to the idea I am going to marry him.

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Funnily enough, there are probably places where no one would bat an eye about your being both men but where you'd run into an incest law. I think most locales will tolerate a half-first-cousin though.

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There aren't enough Eldar for marriages to work if you don't allow second cousins and equivalent degrees of separation.

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And I am sure that on some planets you could make that argument and have it go through, and meanwhile somebody somewhere is hysterical that a pair of fourth cousins twice removed are considering holding hands. Big galaxy.

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We could also just not mention it. What are they going to do, come here and ask to meet our grandparents?

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No, it'd probably just come up on some sort of paperwork and you'd have to lie. Marriages in societies without soul grafts involve paperwork.

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He laughs. Silently, because of the sound baffle. What an adorable way to do it. You don't have to fill it out while getting married, I assume?

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Before or after the party and definitely not simultaneous with the consummation.

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There's often a party to accompany a marriage, here, but the marriage happens in private.

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This'll vary by locality but paperwork indicates legal marriage, party indicates social marriage, and you try to have them around the same time.

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You'd be the only guest. Tyelcormo, maybe.

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So a very small party. Sigyn might want to come if you'd have him, after I've told him this whole stupidly long story.

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I'd be delighted. He shakes his head.

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You'd like him. He's very weird, but you can find reasons to hypothetically like almost anybody so I think you'd be able to actually like him.

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I actually expect to hit it off very well with friends of yours. I was just being gloomy about my anticipated wedding party.

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Well, if they come around later you can have a five hundredth anniversary vow renewal or something like that.

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I told Findekáno I don't think my father will disown me, and I don't.

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But you're not going to invite him to the party.

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I'll invite them all. They won't come. They'll tell me they love me whatever I get up to in the same tone they'd use if I announced I was going to wipe out a sentient species and replace them with fingerpuppets.

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I could tell them I have a clever plan and their attendance is necessary, but that wouldn't be true.

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Well. Maybe in five hundred years.

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Maybe.

I hear the usual way to bring one's parents around on a marriage they don't like is to produce some grandchildren. Regrettably that's both unappealing and impossible.
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I'm not going to argue with you on the appeal but unless Quendi biology spits in the face of science it's not impossible, and that's if you don't want to adopt.

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Wait, really? And I currently believe that bringing people into the world is a terrible wrong, but I suppose I might not feel that way in five hundred years.

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Quendi biology might well spit in the face of science, you have all kinds of weird soul crap going on, but yes, really, it would just require very clinical and unromantic fiddling.

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And, what, a egg for the baby?

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...there's probably somebody who does eggs somewhere, big galaxy, but more likely a technological contrivance or, you know, a woman who was not going to be genetically related to her passenger.

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All these things to keep in mind. He sits down, scoots back against his wall. Please do ask Findekáno about post-war ambitions.

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Should I ask him if he wants to have clinically arranged babies in five hundred years?

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Not without me there, I like looking at his face. You should have seen the one he gave me when I explained we were going to get married after the war.

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You know, most people do that in the form of a question.

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So I've been told. It's not as if I'm going to - um. Make him fill out the paperwork. Galactic marriages really are different.

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I'm probably overgeneralizing on the paperwork. It is a very big galaxy.

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I'm not going to make Findekáno marry me in either the local sense or the Asgardian one or any other. I am going to tell him that that's what we're doing, and watch him sputter at me.

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I bet it was cute.

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He was angry at me for - well, you saw what I said to Galadriel, my fallback is 'yes, I do what I want with him' - and suddenly he wasn't angry at all, just looking terribly lost. I wanted to hug him but I knew he'd turn into someone else in my arms so I just stood there watching.

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He won't, but I won't expect the reassurance to mean much.
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I think no matter how many years it's been and how much evidence I have, the first time I'll expect it, and on our wedding night I'll expect it. I suppose he'll have to decide if he's all right with that.

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- you could tell him you expected it when we blew up Angband, maybe it'll seem like a compliment.

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I should tell him that. Did you ever tell him I hugged you? Did he make a face at you?

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Hasn't come up yet. I got suddenly busier right around then.

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I recall. Well, when you let him know that I won't be visiting again for a few years until I've won over Thingol, and ask about a warm spaceship, you can mention it.

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Will do.

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Thanks for stopping by.

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You're welcome. See you in a few more weeks.

To Nolofinwëans. Not directly into Fingon's room.
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Nolofinweans are glad to see her, have some messages, how is she.

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She's pretty good. She takes the messages. Where's Fingon?

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Running various flavors of catastrophe drills in the south quarter.

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When is he anticipated to have a minute to chat?

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She doesn't visit too often, he can definitely hand those off to whoever he's training to run them regularly.

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Good.

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"Hey," he says, and if he looks faintly disappointed it's very faintly.

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"Hi." They're letting him wear the Silmaril now. This is an improvement from his perspective but does interfere with his freedom of movement.

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You realize, with the Oath, they can make anything at all a condition of getting the Silmaril and he doesn't have much choice?

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I know. He's doing a very impressive job of turning this into a tool, but yes. I did not feel obliged to kidnap him at this time.

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I just wanted to make sure you realized that if it were bad enough you would have to kidnap him, he wouldn't ask. And I'm glad to hear that. He is good at this sort of thing, he might be fine.

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He's very, very good at it, she agrees.

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It would have taken him probably a month or two to get Olwë to share the swanships with us.
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Anyway, thank you for the update.

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When all this is over, if my mother means to leave me in my interesting position to end the war with the frost giants, I am planning to offer your fiancé a job.

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Wrangling things on the frost giant planet?

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Yep. I know fuckall about them and am not best skilled to learn and deploy the information. He did not think you would like to go to a frost planet and I said you could be in a nice warm spaceship in orbit.

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He wants to teleport by then, doesn't he? He can just bounce over to wherever we're managing the integration of Arda with the rest of the galaxy.

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Don't have an ETA on something to give him an inextricable eidetic memory, but I suppose for the practical purpose of being able to teleport the extricable version would do.

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I am willing to chase a Feanorian in the sense of pacing my life the way they like it. I am not inclined to be kept for him.

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Ambassadorial work is sometimes done in couples.

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Is the entire planet frozen over?

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I think so. You could be warm, there's ways, but you would in fact wind up looking at ice a lot. I apologize on behalf of my species.

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It's my cousin who owes me that apology. Is the frost giant planet one where ambassadorial work is done in couples? Can they not tell genders apart on warm-blooded things?

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I know fuckall about frost giants besides that they are giants and do frost and sometimes get into fights with Asgardians - this being why I am looking to spread the problem around - and do not know if they would care what genders you were if they could tell. This is speculative as all get out.

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Count me potentially intrigued, at least. Depending how much work the integration of those peoples of Arda who don't immediately follow my uncle off to galactic notoriety is going to be.

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Some, but 'a new planet appears on the map and has its own unique challenges' is not a new situation to my galaxy.

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Do you think Maedhros is actually going to be...better? By the time we get all this sorted and moving?

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Eventually. Although he says however much evidence he accumulates he's going to expect you to melt away the first time he holds you and on your wedding night. I told him that this might seem like a compliment if he mentioned that he also expected the hallucination to end when we cratered Angband. When it didn't he hugged me.

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He smiles. That moment was incredible even from where we were standing. Thank you.

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You're welcome.

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I didn't know he was comfortable hugging people.

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He's not. It was very irregular.

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Thank you again. Tell Maedhros that I can actually find enough to occupy myself in the galaxy and he needn't make any work for me but if there happen to be things we're useful on together we will make them happen.

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I'll pass it on.

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I have no idea what to make of the thought he's doing wedding planning.

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It's not very detailed wedding planning. He doesn't have a venue down to the level of which planet yet. And there's only so elaborate one can get with the guest list he projects.

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He's inviting guests??

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Well, not yet he isn't, but he said he'd invite his family and only Tyelcormo would be even a maybe.

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.....do weddings mean something different in your galaxy?

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Yes they do! We don't have weird soul grafting crap! The 'wedding' is the party. He is going to invite his family to a party. They will probably not come.

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I should say not. Mine won't either.

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Well, I'll go.

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He sighs. Maedhros is more optimistic than I that this won't be an absurdly costly gesture. But thank you.

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You're welcome.

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Doriath otherwise peaceful?

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Galadriel is herself. Maedhros may or may not have aimed her less irritatingly.

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She walked in on us once and has been trying to figure out ever since whether she can actually use that to get anything she wants other than 'blowing up our family'.

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Does she have redeeming qualities?

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She's very very book smart. He shrugs. She hasn't ever told anyone, that I know of, and I really think I'd know. I'm not angry with her. If she actually gets in Maedhros' way he will probably stop indulgently treating her as his kid cousin.

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He invited me to eavesdrop and I detected nothing indulgent about the exchange.

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Trust him. He's good at what he does.

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Oh, I didn't say he was ineffective. Just, he seems to have already decided she was in the way.

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You said she was 'being Galadriel'. That doesn't give me much to work from.

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Malicious miscellaneous gossip, principally aimed at Lúthien. Lúthien and I wound up having a very sharp conversation about homosexuality. At one point I implied that I was ditching her "princess sleepover" plan to go find a girl to sleep with but I've run out of known amenables.

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Maedhros mentioned in one of his letters that Thuringwethil was intrigued.

You can't - I am familiar with the comments being unpleasant, but you can't pick a fight over it every time, it's what all of us are told - by the gods themselves - from a very young age. Compassionate people will be compassionate about believing it's abhorrent and self-destructive behavior, but no one, not even Fëanor, seems to have, without personal inclination prompting them, thought their way right out of believing it.
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I don't pick an entire fight every time.

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If you pick a fight specifically when the comments are directed at Maedhros that's worse.

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I picked a fight because I was disappointed in Lúthien and angry at Galadriel, and it was the thing I could most readily complain about in the whole miserable list with a minimum of sounding confirmatory.

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What else was she saying?

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Loki has an eidetic memory; she recites the list verbatim.

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He sighs and shakes his head. I will ask Finrod to do something about her.

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Maedhros may have already done, but assuming more effort can be applied without canceling out...

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Depends what he did.

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She tells him.

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I don't expect there'll be any problems, then.

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That's good.

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Could he factually take us all alive if he wanted to?

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Not I think at this time.

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We had contingency plans for if Fëanor found a way around his word and for some reason picked a fight, but since Angband fell the contingency plan has been 'surrender'. Don't tell them that.

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Won't. But I would be incredibly pissed off at them if they threatened you with nukes. That is not why I let them have nukes.

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They haven't, have they? Don't get angry at them because we have a plan for if they did.

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Yes, I'm just pointing out that they have reasons besides his oath and the possibility that you'd do something other than fold encouraging them to avoid it.

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Right, people who you're very annoyed with don't have a good track record.

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Well, sometimes they get away with it if all I am is annoyed. People who I'm annoyed with and threaten populations I like, though, those have a terrible track record.

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I am not nearly as paranoid about my cousins as I'm sure I must come off whenever we speak - it's my job to have plans for even unlikely things, if they're the sort of thing that can effectively be planned for - but if I were him and wanted to pull this off, I'd do it while you were a day into accelerated cognition, communicate his terms to no one but my father and tell my father that he'd demand an oath from anyone who was told about the threat, and then once he got his surrender and his oaths spend eight weeks designing a different story about the reconciliation.

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Might work, until I gave everybody free will and the secrecy oaths snapped.

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Are you going to give it even to people who decline, then?

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I'm not sure I'll be able to work with much finesse. Tesseract's a beautiful tool but I cannot give somebody free will by being even very clever about answering questions beginning with 'where' about them. I would need one of the other stones, probably soul but I might be able to pull it off with any other one, though time would be a last resort. And I have some reason to expect the Tesseract to like me, and some reason to expect it to produce a guess about whether I can safely wield other stones, but I might be able to pick up the soul stone and do one, simple thing with it and then put it down but not be able to get it to do complex conditionals. If I can get it to do complex conditionals I'd probably want something like, mm, free will for anybody who would choose it if they were not under the influence of any oaths, maybe with an option to clear standing oaths but retain the ability to make new ones, but something to get around the circularity of the whole business. If you would decide not to be able to tell me about a nuclear threat even if you were not under a secrecy oath that begins to be beyond the scope of things I feel entitled to be annoyed about, really.

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It's not 'I'd decide not to be able to tell you about a nuclear threat' it's 'are my people better off, and am I more able to act in their interests, if I can bindingly give my word', and I'm not sure of the answer to that. Coercing people into oaths is obviously monstrous.

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Which is why if I only get to decide 'free will for everybody or no', you will have to deal with having it, because orcs outnumber you. If you count the dead ones, anyway.

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Yes, obviously if that's the only option that's the way to do it. Not even because they outnumber us, because being coerced into an oath is much worse than not having the capacity to make them.

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I'm really curious what will happen to the converted orcs. I mean, if they want to start the local chapter of the church to One-Above-All even once they're not using the concept as a surrogate Melkor, that's not going to hurt anything but it'd be a little weird.

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Yeah. It'll probably fade once they don't need it. An oath to serve breaking is really weird, it feels awful for a little while.

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It does?

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Not painful, just - a very acute sort of directionlessness that's easy to disentangle from your ordinary grief but hard to get over except by grieving. I'm not sure what an oath to serve someone you didn't trust and love would feel like, breaking.

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...how do you know what it's like...?

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...we swear to the King, and he was murdered...

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Everyone does this, or just...?

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No, just people with important political positions. It's a very very loosely worded oath, it does not actually oblige you to obey him, just if you're going to work against him to make it known you've parted ways. I don't know what wording Fëanor requires of his people, these days, or if he expects it of more of them.

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I don't know either. I didn't know this was a staple.

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Fealty's not a thing, back home? - or, I suppose, it is but doesn't actually bind you.

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I do not much care to think about what Odin would do with the power to so much as strongly suggest fealty oaths. It would probably not be a disaster for most people but it would have been dreadful for me.

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I can imagine.

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Especially since I'd have been invited to swear it without the benefit of knowing what species I was and the implications thereof.

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The one with my grandfather was 'I desire to serve this kingdom and its people; if I find myself unable to bear that obligation honorably I will discharge it honorably.' Pretty safe, as oaths go.

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I suppose. Given Asgardian definitions of honor I would have been in a desperate bind, though, I was too clumsy to hold a sword until I invented my spell... stealth wouldn't have been an option, not learning to hold a sword was not really an option, and female sorcerers are not so much 'honorable'.

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Yes, it sounds like it would have put you in an awful position.

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Which makes me skeptical of its wisdom as an institution even if nobody in the social position expected to take the oath happens to be a Loki.

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Fealty in general? Or just forms that one can't lie about?

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There might be versions which wouldn't have - victims, no matter who happened to be the monarch at the time. But that doesn't seem to be one.

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Monarchy that doesn't have victims regardless of who the monarch is is a little too high to place the bar, I think, realistically.

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Certainly. But having oaths around is not obviously helping to approach this admittedly lofty standard.

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I understand why you'd be tempted to just be entirely rid of them.

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Thank you.

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If I were paranoid about my uncle I'd arrange to swear to someone regularly that I hadn't been coerced into any oaths, and when I couldn't make that commitment then they'd be able to panic. But I honestly don't think he'd do it.

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Interesting. Oath deadman switch.

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I can't outplay Maedhros politically but I can run rings around my uncle.

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Father used to do it all the time, mostly just for fun, back when there was less at stake. Fëanáro's oblivious to subtext and has too much of a one-track mind and most things don't rise to his attention, it's hardly even playing fair. Once he realized there was a lot at stake he compensated for those deficiencies by not working through or with anyone who wasn't willing to write themselves over to him, but that's horribly handicapping too.

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He's a very lopsided person.

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And not an unlikeable one, when he isn't cornered and clawing through innocent lives as a coping mechanism for his own insecurities.

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I like him very well for social purposes, she agrees.

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You really don't have to be diplomatic with me; I put up with Maedhros, don't I?

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...I'm not sure what you think I'm doing to be diplomatic. I'm not very good at it.

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I mean that if you say you admire my uncle's leadership and think he's an excellent King, I won't take offense, and you generally needn't qualify your comments about the rift between our peoples as much as you've tended to in recent years. I don't know if you're fond of them or just reluctant to give us ammunition to dislike them or worried that you have to be neutral to be useful but if you were worried about that it's untrue.

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I have mixed feelings about his leadership but I unqualifiedly like him very well for social purposes. I find the entire family decent-to-excellent company and they are of staggering instrumental value too. And I am worried that I have to be neutral to be useful but I already live in their city and taught them to make nukes and moved my adopted species there so I suppose there's a limit to how neutral I can seem on the subject.

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We want the war won and the Enemy dead. We aren't going to let anything else get in the way of that. You don't have to be neutral to be useful, just - sufficiently opposed to serious misbehavior that they don't have a free hand, and you are and they don't.

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Good, I'm glad what I'm doing is working.

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Nonetheless, don't send them our regards, I think it'd best if he continue forgetting we exist.

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I will leave you quite unmentioned insofar as I can.

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Thank you, Loki. Maedhros you can send my regard and concern and generalized exasperated affection.

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Next time I'm there.

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And he waves and returns to the drills.

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And she pops around passing messages where they belong and goes swimming instead of flying for a change and then pops back in the hole.

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There are some minor earthquakes. The weeks are otherwise uneventful.

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Earthquakes are sort of concerning but not something she can directly counter, unless they are known to have a source other than "Morgoth decided it was earthquake time".

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No such source is detectable. They can build seismology equipment but that may not help. Would Doriath like floating amulets of true seeing? Because they now have enough for that.

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She'll be happy to bring them a boxful.

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Doriath can do that with Melian, thank you, and does not really want more fishy Noldorin magic in their kingdom.

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Okay then. She'll just bring the boxful back to be elsewhere disposed of.

How's Maedhros doing?
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Maedhros is back to not being chained to the wall, and actually they were going to let him go outside, supervised, would Loki like to come along?

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Sure!

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So they leave Menegroth, with Lúthien's customary hundred-person escort, and go to a brook and sit in the grass singing. Except Maedhros, who is still sound-baffled, and who takes the opportunity to talk to Loki. How's it going?

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Going all right. She relays Fingon's comments about ambassadoring-in-couples and regard/concern/generalized exasperated affection. Congratulations on getting detached from the wall again.

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Elu Thingol will be so much happier once he can have a planet where his wife doesn't have to run herself into the ground protecting his people. I told him I'd be deeply honored to serve him in acquiring them one.

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Should I be volunteering as a taxi service or are you proposing to do that yourself once you can teleport?

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I imagine he'd still be happier to have you be the one doing it. I gave my word that I was accurately representing my current intent but I am not bound to that intent or to actually personally do it.

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I wouldn't have guessed they'd want to move, actually, with Melian so dug in to this particular forest.

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Melian doesn't think you can take down the Enemy without destroying Beleriand. She is not happy about it but she does not see another path, and nor do the Valar apparently, unless your interdimensional magic comes through.

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So she thinks I'm going to go and come back with planetbusting amounts of antimatter but is willing to be evacuated. All right. I totally told Ulmo what my plan was though.

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I don't actually know how the Ainur share information. They didn't tell Melian about the Kinslaying, for instance. It's a bit puzzling.

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Couldn't tell you.

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I am grateful for the avenue to get Thingol's interest in cooperation even if you end up preserving this world just fine.

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Really? I'm looking forward to have the flexibility to stop pretending to give a shit about his opinions.

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I don't think he's ever going to be useful to me. But - my father only notices people who are interesting and useful, most people just escape him, and for me that would be a terribly lonely way to live. I do not care about Thingol but I care very much for doing right by him and ending up a person he respects and trusts.

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I suppose that's a convenient hobby to have under the circumstances.

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Yes, on the scales I'm used to, 'put up with someone for a while' is an insane way to conduct yourself. I suppose that instinct doesn't matter any more, but he knows I operate by it and it helps me.

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I can put up for people with a long time, if I have to.

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I thought I'd be running Valinor's politics quite literally for all eternity.

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Then I suppose some - whatever thing you're doing that's probably healthier than doublethink - is a perfectly reasonable strategy.

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A desire to do right by people that persists beyond the incentives that I had when I adopted it. If you're as manipulative as I am and don't have that, people really cannot trust you.

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It's an interesting balance you strike.

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I really wish we'd met before Angband. I struck it much more stably, and not in a way that left people feeling used.

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I haven't tended to feel used, or at least not in a way that doesn't dovetail perfectly neatly with my desire to be useful.

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I really have not tried to manipulate you. We share goals, and when it looked as if we didn't it was still obviously best to defer to yours.

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So you just think you'd have come off better by way of how you handled other people, if we'd met earlier.

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And I'd be better at aforementioned shared goals. I really do feel like I have less than half of me in place.

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Missing memories, or - elsewise?

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Missing - intuitions that would make more sense of the memories I have, and things I can still fake but do not think I used to need to fake at all.

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If you didn't use to need to fake them it's impressive you scrounged up the ability to do it.

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Perhaps I should thank my father for the horribly unpleasant last decade of our time in Aman, for giving me at least a little bit of practice at concealing my reactions.

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I assume that's sarcasm. On at least some level. I usually don't notice you've been faking smiles until I get a real one - and I suppose I don't know how many layers deep you go.

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Our departure from Aman was - we should have left a hundred years sooner, it was like that stage in some relationships where both parties are unwilling to end it so instead they try to make it so miserable that they'll have a real excuse, instead of noticing that the fact you have that inclination is itself sufficient excuse.

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Eugh.

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The Enemy was astonishingly competent at pulling everyone's strings, and my father has so damnably many strings.

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It's sort of hard for me to think of Morgoth as anything other than a malevolent force of nature. Thauron got personal; Morgoth just gets disastery. Is this a change in strategy or just my not having been around long?

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This is more typical of his strategy, actually. In the war with the Valar he mostly took monstrous forms, or was a volcano or something like that.... I think the reason the Valar weren't looking for evidence he was planting lies and rumors was that it wasn't how they were accustomed to seeing him operate. Thauron understood incarnates better. If he'd been in Valinor at that point it would have gone even worse. But Morgoth's not - above personally torturing prisoners, or anything like that.

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Wouldn't expect him to be.

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And he knew my father well enough to know which losses would drive him either to suicide or something costlier, and to arrange for it to happen at the worst possible time.

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Nod.

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I assume he hasn't tried getting personal at this point because it didn't work. You either were unmoved or successfully left the impression.

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Unmoved would be the wrong word. Moved in an undesirable direction. Someone remarked that it was in some respects good that Sigyn didn't come along because then there would have been someone close to me to target. I'm not sure if Sigyn is literally too kinky to torture or not but I'd probably be able to operate under the assumption that he was long enough to get my job done.

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So no more personal games, just large rocks dropping on our heads occasionally and an effort to leverage Thingol's idiocy against everyone which I really think is not going to work.

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I am glad to have this prognosis on his idiocy and its effects.

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Several years away from home playing 'thing Thingol can project his complicated feelings about Valinor, Finwë, the death of his brother's people at our hands, and the war onto' is annoying mostly because of all the interesting things I could be doing instead. From here forward I don't expect it to be terrible in its own right.

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Maybe in another visit or two they'll be giving you permission to have visitors.

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Ha.

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Beyond your skills?

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Getting them to agree to have Macalaurë come sing? Probably doable. There's no chance at all I could have Findekáno over without it getting back to our respective fathers.

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How would yours find out?

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We have contacts in the Nolofinwean camp who report to me, except since I'm currently occupied they report to Macalaurë.

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...Do the Nolofinwëans know about that? Do they have spies with your people too?

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You'll recall they have twenty of them who tutor your Men. They know about ours in the sense of knowing I'd do that but not in the sense of knowing who they are.

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Those twenty didn't live with your faction before; I meant longer term.

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I assume still yes, but I haven't asked. They didn't seem startled by the bomb, did they?

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I wasn't there when it landed, I was with you. And they had inklings it was a possibility from me.

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If I'd been present with my family and my resources earlier, I could have told them when the assassination attempt occurred that the culprit wasn't obeying the standard Nolofinwean scouting procedures, what their orders if confronted were, things like that. It's broadly to everyone's advantage to communicate more; if I did find they had spies I wouldn't expel them.

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One procedure for finding spies - especially if the spies don't know they've been found - is to feed them tailored information.

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Had a project like that going, was hard to justify as a current priority, given how little capacity my cousins have to actually harm us.

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Makes sense.

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I think what would happen is Nolofinwë would find out and arrest Findekáno and my family would at first get a dozen different and confused accounts of this and panic and try to come up within range of here and talk with me or within range of there and talk with our people there. I'm actually not sure what my father'd do at that point.

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Arrest him. Ugh.

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If my father wouldn't arrest me it'd only be because he wouldn't be entirely confident he had the power, and also he'd at least be given pause by the thought it would traumatize me. He'd probably try anyway, very gently. Stay in your room with one of your brothers at the door while we sort this out, Maedhros, why don't you? The reason I'm in doubt about what he'd do is that I'm here and he needs me here and he'd need you to get me out.

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Well, Celebrimbor could do it but it'd be provocative.

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They might ignore me until I bring the Silmaril home, but I'd find it upsetting to arrive home and notice everyone who answers directly to me has been replaced.

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Nod.

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I can talk my way out of it but again not remotely.

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What did you mean about it being better to defer to my goals when it seemed we didn't share them?
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When we interpreted your stance on not sharing your magic as a stance that it was, in general, better for us to die than for us to have scary amounts of power, we got sulky but we kept working on all your plans, didn't we? This war was more important than whatever you intended to do with us afterwards.

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Ah, that. Yes, very sulky. It was annoying.

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It was frightening and confronting you about it didn't seem likely to be productive. If we'd known more about the astonishingly powerful things already present in your galaxy, maybe.

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Had I not mentioned the infinity gems in sufficient detail?

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The picture I had was that there were, in fact, other sources of absolute power in your galaxy, that not telling people your magic was therefore obviously incomplete as a way of stopping them from achieving scary amounts of power, and that you felt we couldn't be trusted with scary amounts of power. It seemed to follow that you'd also not want us near those other sources, though I should have guessed that there'd already be people who'd have taken that path.

Though. Most people wouldn't do anything particularly interesting with your alphabet, or with comparable things.
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It. Is. A. Big. Galaxy. And it's been around for a very, very long time. If there is something lying around which grants stupid quantities of power one time in a thousand, several people have gotten stupid quantities of power from that thing and some of them have gone somewhere interesting with it. And some people don't have the creativity or ambition on their own but wind up wielded by people or institutions who do.

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I believe you. I apologized for not thinking better of you in the first place, and can do so again.

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I'm not fishing for an apology, just trying to cement the nature of my reasoning so you have a better idea of what my reasoning looks like next time. I do not need to be thought well of as much as I wish to be thought correctly of.

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Wanting us to have opportunities for growth until they notice how much we want to grow us is a pattern we're quite sensitive to. And we see it a lot.

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Well, that would be hypocritical of me, but I suppose hypocrites abound.

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"No absolute power for people with a history of terrible decisions that cost civilian lives" would be a not at all hypocritical stance but one that would still put us at odds.

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If you'd had absolute power then you would presumably have just bypassed the need for boats.

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If I'd had any power at all -

But, yes, we're obviously more dangerous to innocents when we're trapped and in danger ourselves. Lots of people would still take the stance I mentioned. Deterrence, if nothing else.
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Because clearly you would have been swayed by guesses about the opinions of powerful aliens.

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The Valar were right there and literally had the power to sink all the ships - and did sink many of them - and that failed to deter us. I still think your stance is unusual.

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Fair enough.

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I might try to get Thingol to come around on visitors. Macalaurë'd love this place.

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He and Lúthien can talk music.

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Yes. Their guards, and Lúthien, have sung the spring into a rushing river. "Want to go swimming, Loki?" Lúthien says.

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"Sure, why not." She shucks armor.

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And there is swimming. Lúthien has always been hoping she's enough Maia she doesn't need to breathe but she doesn't think it works that way. She can sing the water different colors, or make it bubbly.

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Loki can freeze bits of it, but this is presumably not going to be comfortable for anybody else?

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Ice in midsummer is kind of fun, actually! Has she considered using her ice powers to make frozen foods, frozen foods are such a delicacy. Maedhros, who is not swimming, volunteers that the same was true in Tirion.

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She's willing to freeze some food! And make some little icebergs in this river.

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After a while of this everyone is delighted and exhausted and splashes ashore to dry off.

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Flop.

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Lúthien giggles. "How've you been?"

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"Same old. I'd go into more detail but the minutiae of spellcraft would make anybody else's eyes glaze over."

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"If you say so." She starts brushing out and rebraiding her hair.

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"If you'd like me to try I can talk about orienting on gravity wells and specifying selected universe-histories so I don't wind up in a similar but not identical dimension to my own and safeties to make sure I don't land in a sun, and how many books' worth of spell alphabet I have to wrestle into behaving before I can consider those parts done."

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"I generally find hearing people talk about something that fascinates them is fascinating even if they are a bore like Maedhros and only have a fascination for cooking and reading. But this is your break, if it's not restful you needn't bother."

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Cooking and reading? "Normally I'd love to - I'm looking forward to actually teaching it, eventually - but I'm a little oversaturated on the stuff. What have you been doing?"

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I am very good at both.

Lúthien's improved Maia-affecting sleep song is really powerful and delivers its punch early in the music, soon enough to be useful for combat, if you convince the opponent to listen. She's happy to demonstrate.
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"In pieces, maybe? So I can record and have it on hand if Maiar attack me and they're harder to explode than Balrogs."

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It takes ten tries to collect. The song does in fact put you to sleep really fast. She's visibly quite pleased with herself when she wakes everyone up for the last time.

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"That's very nicely done."

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Maedhros has a very fixed smile after being shaken awake. She really is brilliant with it.

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I could've asked for the demo in private.
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She's demonstrated it for me a number of times already.

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Ugh.
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If I asked her not to, she'd stop. But it puts her in a very good mood.

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Why?

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Because she spent the first few decades of this war watching friends and loved ones die - Doriath had serious losses before the rising of the Sun - and finds it very reassuring and stabilizing to be powerful and have the means to protect people.


She doesn't have a sadistic streak, if that's what you're trying to parse.
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Wasn't expecting that in particular.

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They have not done anything that they could not easily rationalize as harmless or necessary.

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And thus they rationalize away.

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We murdered people.

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I am aware of that.

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I appreciate your indignation on my behalf but it's really hard to think of a number of mild mistreatments of a prisoner that compare in magnitude to the grievance that prompts them to keep rationalizing.

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It doesn't have to compare. It is an incorrect comparison to bother to make.

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Elu asked me what I'd say to him, if he made the condition for a Silmaril that I be bound hand and foot and blindfolded. I said I'd tell him I had learned my lesson about oaths, if that was the lesson he was teaching me.

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They dry off in the sunny weather.

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And Loki puts her armor back on.

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"Leaving already?" Lúthien says.

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"Not necessarily? Armor is just - Asgardian women's daywear, for most purposes. Besides, if I needed to leave suddenly for some reason I wouldn't want to stop to get everything on."

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"I wish I were an Asgardian woman," she says agreeably, and they walk back into Menegroth and have a very nice dinner.

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"They wouldn't let you do magic," Loki points out. "Especially the conspicuous singing kind."

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"It'd be worth it, to go outside without a hundred soldiers. Daeron could sing for me."

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"That'd work. I'm trying to think how when this is all over to best orchestrate tours among interested parties of Asgard. Taking everybody at once would have both interpersonal and scheduling problems."

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She looks over at Maedhros. "He says for the trial we could just exile them from Arda for an Age or until all the dead are reunited, and go tour for new places for the people who don't want to live here or who can't if the continent's destroyed in the fighting. More than it already has been, I mean. If Father decides to go with that then that'd be our grievance settled and traveling together wouldn't be a problem."

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"That'd be convenient, then. Although I am not planning to destroy the continent. That would be messy."

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"Wars with Valar often do, even if you don't intend it. He may be trying to set it so it crumbles even if he loses, Mother thinks."

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"I'll be on the lookout for a continent-wrecking deadman switch, then, thanks for the heads up."

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"No problem. Want to try freezing these berries? They're like candy when they're frozen..."

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Loki hovers her hand over the berries and frosts them gently.

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They are in fact super tasty.

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Yum.

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After dinner there is singing, non-magical, and Maedhros relaxes in his seat while the Silmaril illuminates Menegroth to even-greater-than-usual shimmering beauty and smiles. It was good to see you as always.

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Likewise. Loki captures music until she is tired, and then she goes home, and sleeps, and hops back in the hole.

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More minor earthquakes.

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That's really disconcerting. Both continents?

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Yep.

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Ugh.

Nothing for it but to work faster.
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And try putting a slow-things-down song on loop beneath the ground, can she do that when she next takes a breather? Macalaurë's written one and tested it with rock and he thinks it might give them a few seconds' warning.

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Sure, she can put loops of whatever wherever.

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So they give that a try, and explain how the other city and hidden city and Doriath can do it if needed.

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She relays it to the other cities first.

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Sure, why not, better than sitting here nervously.

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So she places loops, and goes to Doriath.

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No excursions today. He is reading her books when she comes in.

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Did I pick you good stuff?

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It's very interesting, yes.

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Do you actually cook? I had no idea.

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I haven't since I was rescued. I used to, yes.

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That'd explain why I didn't know.

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Lúthien wanted to cook things with me but her father said perhaps I'd poison her that way.

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With all the poison they no doubt have lying around in their kitchens?

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I might know how to combine innocuous ingredients into poisons! And they don't really have kitchens, they mostly eat magic fruit and nut variants which don't particularly require preparation and certainly not baking.

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Yeah, I've been foraging in the garden here before. My own cooking skills are basically "spit and roast".

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Both my parents forget to eat and I had six younger brothers. We could have had household help but I had an instinct that people'd judge my parents for not remembering to feed their children.

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I doubt Odin's ever cooked anything beyond "spit and roast" in wilderness situations. It's not Frigg's hobby, either, though I'd be less surprised to find that he dabbled in it once. We just have cooks.

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My parents sort of eloped and were estranged from the King for the first century of their marriage. We have cooks now.

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Estranged? For eloping or other reasons?

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My father got on very badly with his stepmother, and he married underage, and people had all sorts of very nasty comments about that, and then the King had just had two more children in quick succession.

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Ah.

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The comments were to the effect that he could have done much better, my mother's not particularly pretty. I think the degree of offense he took was entirely warranted.

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...Somehow I was not imagining that was in the top ten factors in his decisionmaking, although I suppose I could be mismodeling him.

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It wouldn't have been at all. It's - a typical top criterion, though, and 'the crown prince will marry the prettiest girl in Valinor' would be obvious to most people.

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This seems like an even worse criterion with magical soul bonding than it does in the standard case. I suppose you don't age so there's no concern about people's looks inevitably fading, but still. I pick up pretty people for casual flings but I'd need so much else going on to settle down.

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The Quendi value beauty very highly. And - I think there's a common mindset that it's most important to desire your spouse, everything else you can get from other relationships, that you can only get there. Which of course wouldn't be true on Asgard. Bed, pretty children, someone on your arm for public appearances - if you don't actually like your wife that doesn't matter as much.

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People are frequently monogamous on Asgard, at least by the time they get married. If I met somebody I wanted to marry I think I'd prefer it; I mean, I could probably make it work with Sigyn if I wanted to turn it into a romance instead of a friendship with benefits and he could never pull off monogamy in a million years, but it'd be a compromise. And it is considered horrible to be married to somebody you don't like.

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Huh. That's another cultural difference. I mean, marrying for love is common enough, but it's usually love at first sight which doesn't have much to do with personality.

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I have no idea what love at first sight would be like. Anyway, it's not universal, I don't think Frigg likes Odin that much and I am not at all sure if Odin likes him, but among regular people.

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Good matches also seem more common among regular people here. I always thought that was because the entire House of Finwë is a roiling web of drama but perhaps there's less pressure to choose someone beautiful and so people choose someone likable.

I looked for a girl at one point. I had people who I trusted enough - they're all dead, went with me to the parlay with the Enemy -I thought I could tell someone, see if anyone happened to be interested anyway. By then politics was getting more consuming and the Eldar don't wed in troubled times and so I had a good enough excuse.
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Could've married a girl who had her own secret girlfriend and Fingon could have married the girlfriend, all very neat and stealthy.

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Would have been very elegant. The excuses I was making by the time I was two thousand were a bit outlandish.

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Seems sensible enough to me. You wanted to marry your boyfriend, not some girl. Though I suppose you wouldn't have put it in those words.

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I actually didn't want to marry my boyfriend, it wasn't really on the radar. The part of me that was interested in acquiring Findekáno didn't - intersect much with my day-to-day ambitions. I mostly just felt this sense that even if I told her in advance, and she agreed, there I'd be having taken someone permanently for a purpose I didn't want them for. It'd be a hard relationship to manage successfully.

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Yeah, that would be a consideration too. Though the marry-a-gay-one option would at least let it be mutual.

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That would have troubled my conscience much less.

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And she would have gotten to go around with pretty arm candy. When I used to disguise myself as a boy my usual illusion actually looked kinda like you, I went redhead because I didn't want to look related to my family and the face was superficially similar too. Little did I know how unrelated to my family I am.

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She would have been the envy of the city. I personally thought it'd be a pretty good offer even considering, and since I wasn't picking her for looks I could have picked a good eventual Queen of the Noldor for when Grandfather got tired and stepped down - Father was inclined to pass me the crown - and then politics picked up their currents and now look at me, marrying for love to a totally unsuitable candidate for Queen of the Noldor.

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A bit, yes. For whatever it's worth I think it's cute.

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It's been stabilizing me, in some odd ways. I always thought of it as, hmm - a detraction from my ability to work effectively, and accordingly, given the importance of my priorities, a great wrong I was continuously doing my people. Right now I think it's helping me and that feels very good.

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That's cute too. The current version, not the old one.

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The old one was accurate given the conditions I was working in. It was wrong. I am just not all that good a person.

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Sigh.

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Is it more wrong that we'd both be arrested by our fathers? Yes. But given that that was true, and given the magnitude of the stakes here, you cannot possibly disagree with me -

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- I can agree that it would have been very noble of you to make the personal sacrifice.

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He shakes his head. All well at home? You can ask Macalaurë if he'd be interested in coming next time, I think I can secure him permission by then.

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All's well at home. He composed an earthquake warning system, I'm going to offer to put it underground for Doriath here, see if Noldo magic is okay this time. I'll ask if he'd like to join us.

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He must be miserable. Please do.

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...is composing an earthquake detection song a sign of misery?

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Macalaurë is an extravert, the only one among my brothers, and does composition alone in his room, and at the rate he's getting things out for you seems to be doing absolutely nothing else.

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Oh dear.

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So he'll come here and do a performance and everyone will be impressed with him and he'll cheer right back up, it's really fine. We Feanorians are just bad at looking out for ourselves.

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They'll let him sing?

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I have eight weeks to work on them. They might insist that I be very far away with a knife to my throat and the Silmaril in yet a third location but they'll let him sing.

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...

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I think I'd actually find that quite relaxing.

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...what, because you could assume that it or something equivalent was really happening?

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Yes. And the worst they'd do is kill me.

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I never asked you to do anything like that because it'd have made you miserable and it's only slightly better than nothing.

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Thanks.

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I'll ask Findekáno once we have more time together, if it's still morbidly appealing. I think it'd bother him less.

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You'd know better than I.

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He gave me his knife. When you asked, when I'd first been released...

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I was reading less into it than that.

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No, I just meant - did he hesitate? Did he choose that moment to talk about how upsetting the whole situation was?

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No. Just pulled it out and handed it over.

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Yeah.

He's smiling fondly.
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...Aw.

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If I actually really need something from him and there is no way that talking about it or emoting about it will make it better, he will do what's needed and sing about it later. It's a trait that I don't see often, though perhaps you have to know someone very well.

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It's a good trait.

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My father has it too.

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I don't think I've heard him sing. Should I just assume that all Quendi sing?

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No, he wouldn't sing, he'd invent something that if he'd had it in time would have made the situation avoidable. But he can sing quite well if he wants to.

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Nod.

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Anyway if I asked that of Findekáno he'd do it, and I don't think he'd even be particularly haunted by it, and anyway I haven't accused him of working for the Enemy nearly as often as I've accused you of it so the ways in which it would bother him wouldn't include feeling personally horrible. Not that I'd ask you even if there were no one else.

Now that I'm adjusted to being here, there's nothing Elu Thingol can really do to so much as rattle me and it feels pretty good.
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That's good then.

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You okay? I really can stop discussing these things with you if they upset you.

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As with most things the discussion merely brings my attention to underlying facts which are upsetting. I don't wish to be handled as though unable to cope with facts.

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...what new information was present there? I am functional but not all here. That was already known to you.

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Exact details of the not-all-here. I really don't have a very good model of what it's like inside your head, for all that I can guess better about some of it than the locals.

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You know that feeling when you make a very dangerous misstep and you know how badly you're exposed, for half an instant, before your body's even done moving and before your opponent can take advantage? I feel that sort of - suspended panic, impeding disaster, too-late-my-muscles-aren't-fast-enough - all of the time. I have very vivid nightmares. I used to have panic attacks but I have thoroughly trained them away and now I just scream inside my head. I have a lot more -separation - between what I'm pretending to be and what I am, when things are relatively okay, and sometimes that's reassuring but sometimes it feels like the pretend will float away and then I'll just be whatever's curled up in a corner continuing to endure.

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I will find you a vacation planet with therapists on it.
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Do therapists encounter this sort of thing much?

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Big universe. The exact situations are all unique, of course, but trauma therapy's a thing.

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I'm really not that badly off. I haven't had much trouble this trip and it's involved some stressful situations.

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...he says, after explaining how he is in a constant state of panic...

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Which isn't affecting my productivity.

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There's a difference between 'ineffective' and 'badly off'. I know being productive is your priority, I can respect that, but it's quite another matter to claim you're not that badly off.

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I have much refined my reference point for badly off.

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No doubt. Mine remains calibrated to the general population.

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Which I'm sure is delightfully free of people who ask their boyfriends to hold a knife to their throat so they can stop pretending to feel like there isn't one there.

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It's irregular, yes.

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...people do it for other reasons, though, right? I mean, Quendi couples get up to that and we're apparently the prudes of the galaxy.

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I mentioned I suspect Sigyn may be too kinky to torture?

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It's a shame Thauron's dead - it's not at all a shame Thauron's dead, but - because I'd like to see that. He gets stupider when he's frustrated, it's always worth it to provoke him -

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Oh, that'd be the funniest thing in a horrible sort of way. He kept osanwëing me Vár screaming - if it'd been Sigyn I probably would've mustered the energy to quip that they seemed to be getting along well -

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I think he'd have been frustrated by you galactics anyway, a little bit harder to shock your sensibilities.

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Asgardians aren't even the cosmopolitans of the galaxy, everything I know is from books and the occasional offworld diplomat or whatever I was the only royal willing to bother with.

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It seems like there's probably some level of cosmopolitism at which it starts to disadvantage you, planets where someone's never taken a serious injury or had to rebreak a bone before...

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Not sure what that has to do with cosmopolitism.

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Does it not - tend to go with having more civilized hobbies and more advanced technology and things? That's how I was imagining it, though perhaps unreasonably - the better inventors and scientists would also have the broader worldviews, what a thoroughly Noldorin prejudice now I think about it...

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Well, if you have more advanced technology and your hobbies include 'exploring' you certainly get to meet more people, but there's some awful, narrow-viewed spacefaring sorts whose idea of meeting people involves genocide and some very open-minded folks confined to their planet of origin. Diversity within the planet matters too, species dispositions and how their history has unfolded matters. Just because Asgard has conflated the hobby of 'hitting people' with the visible tech level of 'make it look like we've barely learned to forge steel' and the foreign policy of 'ugh, do we have to' doesn't mean the things go hand in hand everywhere.

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The way you describe Asgard is delightful, you know.

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It's such a silly place. I understand it but it's so silly.

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Everyone will say of the Quendi that our hobbies are singing and looking pretty and that our visible tech level is 'did Fëanor invent that?''yes''you didn't even look what I was pointing at' and our foreign policy shall be 'come if you want to be here and leave if you don't'.

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This isn't a bad summary.

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And you haven't even seen us when we have occasion to look pretty. In Valinor we spent so much time at it, it was ridiculous.

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Well, what's osanwë for if it's not for wowing me with pretty Valinor slideshows?

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He raises an eyebrow. Then -



The sky is shimmering, gold and silver and where they meet they're white with ripples of the deep ultraviolet she couldn't see before Curufinwë made her the enchanted glasses. There's a hill, lightly sloping, children rolling down the embankments, people picnicking in the shade, and there's a city on the hill, white stone with high walls, glittering.

The streets would be wide but in fact are crowded with carts; each of them a different and extravagant work of engineering, many of them obviously a bad idea - carts of stained glass, carts of blown glass, crystal and copper and steel.

Maitimo is standing at the end of the street. His hair is done up elaborately in eight crisscrossing braids, he's wearing a circlet, his robes are red and silver and pool at his feet without getting dusty.

Lúthien said she'd shown you osanwë collaborative imagining -
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She did, we chased each other around and I got creative and she declared defeat. Loki plops herself into the street. This is gorgeous, although some of those carts look like they'll fall apart if they run into each other.

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We have contests! People roll them down the hill, try to keep things in one piece. People on the streets are handing her jewelry. Necklaces with fine chains that pool in your hand like a liquid, rings, earrings, hairpieces with glittering gemstones inset -

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Is this rate of jewelry acquisition customary? Seems unsustainable.

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I always assumed people didn't give out jewelry to each other at quite the rate they gave it to me - privileges of rank, you know - but also if you go out fully adorned people won't be nearly as inclined to throw more things at you.

Some of the other carts have food. She can smell it. I can't do taste, though. Shame, I bet Thauron'd would have taught me if I'd asked, if I'd caught him in the right mood.

Tirion-Maitimo waves a hand and everyone backs off a few paces. They wade on through. The storefronts are getting more official and more elaborate. The buildings here all have shady facades under which people are arguing animatedly, or eating, or lying with their heads in the lap of their husband or wife, using gemstones to make rainbows flicker across the awnings. Rainbows are more vivid in Valinor.
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Occasions when it's more appropriate for me to look shiny than lethal are few and far between on Asgard, and I never cared that much about what I wore, so I don't have that much jewelry. She sticks a clip in her hair anyway.

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When we first started designing armor it was very exciting to try to imagine being lethal instead of shiny. Shiny we were very good at.

The street meets a dozen other streets in an enormous plaza whose centerpiece is an enormous fountain, easily a hundred feet high; you can feel the mist on the air even here. Children are playing in its base. The palace, ahead, is clearly held up more by magic than by stone, marble that thin could not support a dome that large or that elaborate. Some of the people up ahead don't move out of her way, but she has to nearly bump into them to realize that they're statues, astonishing ones, a woman resting her head on a man's shoulder as they stare adoringly at a child on the edge of the fountain.

My mother did those all over the city. There's one of each of us.
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They're amazing.

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Palace? Libraries? Findekáno's house? My family lived outside the city.

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You're the tour guide. Although I suspect it might be mildly frustrating to try to actually read library books in a collaborative imagining?

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I don't think it would work. It shouldn't even work this well but for the eidetic memory necklaces, though maybe they stretch this far. He walks towards the palace.

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She follows, looking around delightedly.

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The walls and ceilings of the palace are all translucent so the Treelight streams through, although somewhat diluted. The floor is stone polished to resemble the night sky. There's golden tengwar detailing around the edges and on the arched doors and in the next room, wood-paneled.
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Ooh, I like the floor.

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Me too! I wanted one like that in Himring but the Dwarves said it wasn't possible. I suppose perhaps the Valar helped.

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Oh, you should've had me put an illusion in.

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We can remodel when I get home.


The next room is brighter, more spacious, the walls some kind of engraving with glass incorporated that tells the story of the arrival of the Noldor in Valinor. There's three concentric elevated semicircles of marble and atop them a very glittery throne. Maitimo vanishes from in front of her and is suddenly sitting atop it, eyes alight, smiling at her.
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She bows, smirking. Your Whateveryourstyleis.

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Grace, usually. What is it in Asgard? Come sit here with me and sing, the acoustics are amazing. When Macalaurë was still a child Grandfather'd let him sit in his lap and sing for hours - the whole room would fill up - Macalaurë was so proud of himself - I might have been slightly jealous -

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Up she pops. Mine is in fact Grace too, because I was allowed to pick it when I killed my wyvern and I have a sense of humor. Thor is 'Your Mightiness' but it doesn't come up very much, we don't stand on formality. I am no particular singer, so you're aware.

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Next to Cáno none of us are; we take joy in it anyway. And he starts singing. The acoustics are in fact fantastic.

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When she picks up the thread she does her best to sing along.

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In principle I have eidetic memory and have heard Macalaurë a thousand times and this is in my dreamscape, I should be able to reproduce the sound, he grumbles. Not that we aren't lovely and all. I can't think - maybe -

And then a child walks in, maybe three feet tall, with sharp grey eyes and hair elaborately braided and robes dragging on the floor in a way that looks less deliberate than Maitimo's current outfit, and the child looks up at Maitimo and says "Nelyo!" and then races into their arms, and situates himself quite pickily with a lot of fussing at Maitimo's clothing, and then sings, and now Maitimo can reproduce his brother's voice just fine.
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Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwww!

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He meets her eyes and tells the story in osanwë so as not to interrupt. I'd just realized I had no particular talent for engineering - I'm not bad at it, I'm diligent enough, but the spark of genius was wholly absent - and Amil was expecting the third, and Father'd just persuaded everyone to adopt the tengwar and was running on triple his considerable usual energy, and Macalaurë could sing like the choir of the Ainur. I was desperately jealous of him. And vice versa. I suppose that's how siblings are.

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It's not how Thor and I are, but I don't think it's uncommon, either.

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We grew out of it by the time he was forty. He still loved attention but by then I loved arranging him attention, and we were co-conspirators ever forth. I don't think I kept anything from him until the obvious, centuries later.

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My eidetic memory, having an elegant but imperfect workaround for interdimensionality, isn't quite up to this standard, but if you want to watch Tiny Loki and Tiny Thor I can arrange that.

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I would!!! Can you invite them here, or should we go to Asgard?

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Oh, I can bring them here, but of course we're not telepathic...

In runs Thor, trial-sized but golden with incipient power, curls bobbing and cape whipping after her. She is chased by a skidding, tinier, skinnier Loki who hits the doorframe and goes plop. Thor spins on her heel and laughs.

"It's not funny," says tiny Loki.

"Yes it is!"

"What's so funny about it?"

"You just ran right into the door!"

"It couldn't hardly get out of my way!"

Thor laughs harder. Tiny Loki scowls and picks herself up and goes out and comes back tapping along with a scepter that is clearly decorative only as a cover for its real purpose.
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Awwww. Do you suppose that's a side effect of being a frost giant magicked into Asgardian form?

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I doubt it. It would be the only mistake Odin made, not one she liked much, and not an obvious feature of frost giants either.

Tiny Thor jogs away. The Tesseract appears on a pedestal and Loki and her scepter tap tap tap up to it. Poke. She falls right over, a mesmerized look on her face, tilts her head, reaches again - in storms Odin to seize her by the arm and haul her away.

Shoo, pedestal. In twirls a slightly taller Loki, feet falling where she wants them; and there's Thor again, bigger too, and Loki goes back to being clumsy, but less, and less, and Thor suggests that she needs to try harder, has she tried learning to dance yet -

"No, I haven't tried that," says Loki.

"Well, try it, you're a princess, you can't just fall over."

And with some creative license Loki dances her way into approximately the grace she now really commands and Thor beams, hugs her, flings her into the air and applauds in delight when Loki lands in a perfect roll and hops up to her feet.
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She will not react badly to learning you're a frost giant.

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You think?

Small Thor runs and gets practice swords and tosses Loki one and goes YAAAAAH and attacks. Loki mostly dodges, at first.
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I'd bet my life on it. Can't tell you to bet yours.

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Well. I can teleport now, so I don't have to; and I haven't much choice about whether to bet my sisterhood.

Swords become axes become hammers become spears become glaives; Loki gets surer of her footwork, pulls elaborate acrobatics to make up for Thor's more direct but nearly inescapable strength, they graduate to mixed weapons and Loki likes reach and Thor likes impact -

She's got a strictly more powerful signature weapon than mine. It is judgmental on unclear criteria and won't let most people lift it. Of course, when Thor goes and touches a dangerous magical artifact and it likes her she gets to keep it.

Thor runs out of the room, comes back taller again holding Mjolnir and looking extremely pleased with herself.
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What does it do? Other than not be liftable?

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Inertia. In general. She can call it to her hand at range, it doesn't bother to slow down when it hits things, she can fly by throwing it and neglecting to let go. It also does lightning, and the accompanying storms if she calls up enough of it. Lævateinn's more generally versatile and suits me very well stylistically and I can use it in practice while she daren't throw Mjolnir around at friends, though.

Thor illustrates these properties while Loki recites them.
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...how? That's amazing. Don't show my father, unless you want him to waste a lot of time trying to replicate that...

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I don't know! Lævateinn would be a laborious but fairly straightforward sorcery project - for me, it must have bedeviled whatever non-alphabet sorcerer pulled it off - but Mjolnir is at least slightly intelligent, I don't know what its deal is.

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I think that your sister is very fond of you and will doublethink herself into continuing to be.

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I hope you're right.

Thor flings Mjolnir out the door and doesn't let go. Whoosh.
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And the palace crumbles around them; suddenly it's starry out, and there are people in the streets with torches. Let's go, he says.

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Go -?

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The illusion dissolves. You don't want to watch it how it was afterwards. It ruins everything that came before.

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Oh.

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My father gave a very moving speech but everyone's constantly quoting it, you've probably already heard the key bits.

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I believe so, yes.

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And then we spoke the Oath. It had been nearly a Year at that point since the sack of Formenos and my grandfather's murder. The Valar still hadn't offered any comment.

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They didn't even say anything?

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Well, once we'd started to march for the Ice they sent a herald to tell my father that he was hereby exiled from Valinor and everyone else that they should turn around and go home.

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Sigh.

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As you can imagine it went over swimmingly. Then we got to the Ice and realized it was impassable, backtracked for Alqualondë....

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The Valar are so bad at their jobs.

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Yes.


The rest of us too, though. We should have had a plan for evacuating Valinor long in advance. Father was trying, but not fast enough.
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Well, I hear it's difficult to do things quickly there.

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It is. I was astonished by how easy it was here. Thought it might be a simulation artifact.

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Sigh. I really don't know what I'm supposed to say to that kind of thing. 'It is not a simulation artifact'? Wordless withering glare? 'At least if this were a simulation it'd be a relatively nice one with satisfying explosions and stuff'?

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Part of me thinks you'll say 'yes, fine, tired of it?' and then I'll have to beg you to keep it up. I keep saying things like that anyway. I'm not sure why I do it.

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At this point I don't know what I could possibly be hypothetically getting out of it. I don't expect that alone to immediately win you over because if it did a bewildering unrealistic hallucination would of course be the smart thing to try and you have every interest in making all possible smart things to try into worthless mistakes, but... The strategic situation of 'Fëanorians can build nukes, Thauron is dead, interdimensional teleportation is imminently on the horizon in the hands of the side of good' - your reactions to this get Evil Me what information about the alternate universe in which you're still captured and electricity is imaginary and so on?

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I know. And I've been reading your books and you are definitely from Asgard. And I haven't told you much of actual, war-without-electricity strategic value, I haven't built anything the Enemy wouldn't know how to build - if you were trying to return to my family and impersonate me, maybe, but impersonating me requires more than knowing me quite well, and they'd see the possibility coming...

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And you said I had 'different strengths' from Thauron and I don't think I come off as someone who has the 'faking her entire personality' strength, do I? Plus if you think I'm really from Asgard this does sort of imply I'm not a Maia and can't just have gotten stuck in a stupid oath.

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If you were a - slightly different personality, but not unimaginably different - and you got the offer of no orcs suffering, and the job description of 'give people in Angband who'd otherwise be tortured horribly hallucinations of your choosing', and you didn't think you could take him yet...

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...Okay, fair. Although I'm not sure why they'd offer me that job description, it's not a high-leverage-of-free-will position.

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And I think you'd tell me the truth by this point, if you had enough latitude to pull everything else. He shakes his head.

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And ruin our beautiful friendship? No, you're right, I would.

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He flinches. It would ruin our beautiful friendship. I think I'd mostly keep acting the same towards you, though, you don't seem especially moved by begging and I wouldn't be willing to try to be an asset to you even if you claimed goals like stopping the Enemy from the inside or something.


I think I believe you. I've been reading the books and thinking I believe them. Only mostly, but - yes, mostly.
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Sixty/forty or something?

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Something like that. It wouldn't be unprecedented for the Enemy to do this a hundred times in not-at-all-useful ways just to be very assured I was throughly insane by the end of it. But it doesn't seem the likeliest thing.

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...precedented, is that?

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I never had enough information to interpret the older generation's stories. We'd been told, yes, that people of particular importance in our community would go and then come back - like that, tormented by a hundred lives and the knowledge all of them ended at the whim of the Enemy. But. Alone those words don't make much sense, I didn't make anything of them.

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No two fragments of him are going to share a stellar neighborhood when I'm done with him.

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And maybe eventually some of those people will come to find their lives - more than endurable. I'm really not sure.

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That I'm not sure I can address directly at all. Bottlenecks on things other than brute force.

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Some way for Quendi to actually irrevocably stop existing might be a problem of brute force. I'm not sure.

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Well, I suppose. I'd want a good long investigative process into solutions other than that before trying to do it.

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I'm sure you would.

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Hm?

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If someone wants to stop existing I don't feel any particular desire to spend a thousand years trying to change how they feel about it. I'd expect that to be a thing where we feel differently.

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I didn't mean to imply a thousand years when I said "long". Anyway, I see no reason they shouldn't spend the intervening time unconscious if that would be pleasanter.

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All right, fair enough.

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I try.

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You don't have to worry about me, I have a lot of obligations and expect to continue conducting myself in a way that means acquiring them.

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Then to the extent that is all that worries me I am untroubled.

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He shakes his head. How is everyone?

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And she reports accordingly on everyone.

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And he expresses affection and concern as appropriate and wishes her productive work.

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And then she goes to ask Maglor if he'd like to take Doriath up on potentially forthcoming permission to come visit.

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"...yes, certainly, but if there's anything you're not mentioning about the situation there and Maedhros is using me towards some end of his in some way more complicated than 'sing prettily, impress them' I'd appreciate more information."

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"They're likely to restrict your direct contact with him and the Silmaril both in ways intended to deter antisocial forms of singing etcetera, and it's entirely possible he's working on something more complicated but I don't know what it is. He did mention that the implication of you composing so fast is that you could use an audience as a pick-me-up but I don't think that's a primary factor?"

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"Probably not, no." He looks amused. "Okay."

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"Then I'll let you know next time I pop down so you can be expecting to be fetched when I confirm the invitation is real."

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"Oh, there's not an invitation, there's just Nelyo deciding that there shall be one? Thank you for letting me know, I'll be ready. Maybe write something suitable."

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"I'm looking forward to it."

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"Would Doriath take it as hostile if Celebrimbor sometimes brought people to well outside Doriath but within range to talk to him? I doubt he's lonely but it'd be nice to have unmediated contact, and I have various problems I'd like to bring to him."

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"My naive model is that they wouldn't care, but I can ask if you want."

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"If it's convenient."

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"Sure. Be right back."

She pops down and asks Lúthien.
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Lúthien looks mildly distressed. "It's hardly as if we can prevent it. Yes, I suppose, though if he conveys information about how to navigate Menegroth or the like -"

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"Well, you can ask him not to, or if that's not good enough I can ask that Celebrimbor not bring him company," Loki says, "if that's a concern."

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"I don't know whether it's a concern. 'If provoked they'd sack the city and he'd happily feed them detailed instructions on how best to do it' is a perfectly justified read on them, your favored 'lovely people who have definitely gotten the mass murder out of their system' is a justified interpretation too."

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"Well, I guess I don't need to reiterate my position on the matter. I'll relay whatever answer you give me, I'm just asking the question."

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"Does he not have enough people to talk to? And they can write him letters, that'd be fine."

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"Maglor doesn't expect he's lonely. His family misses having him to talk to for what I presume are both practical and personal reasons. Letters may do just fine."

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"Please ask them to instead do letters. They'll have privacy, we can't read their script."

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"I'll tell him."

Pop. "She would prefer Celebrimbor did not do that but suggests writing letters. They can't read tengwar."
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"Okay," he says. "Thank you."

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"You're welcome."

And she goes in the hole again.
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No tremors this time, for whatever reason.

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Which is worrying, but not actionably.

She goes to collect letters before she pops down.
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There are letters. Around a dozen of them.

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Which she presents to Maedhros on arrival.

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"Thank you," he says. "There will be a lovely concert at which they want my brother to sing blindfolded. I imagine he'll go '...oh, all right' but in case he objects tell him I insist."

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"And am I to have anything to tell him about why you insist?"

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"I've been longing to hear his voice and should be able to hear it even from here," he says steadfastly.

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"If you say so. I guess I'll go check in with Lúthien and find out where they want me to pop him in."

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"Great. Thank you."

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Lúthien?

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Hey!

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Hi! I hear I'm popping in a guest star for a concert?

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We thought we'd have him come - outside Menegroth, to the gates - and meet us and meet Daeron and then sing, yes. The Noldor can't sing as well as us so I can't say he'll be the star.

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My mistake. I can bring him to the gates right now if everything's ready and he's not in the middle of something else at the moment?
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Everything's ready.

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So she pops back up and finds Maglor. "Concert invitation is a go. Maedhros thinks they're going to want you blindfolded while you sing for some reason but Lúthien didn't mention it."

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He shakes his head. "Elu Thingol. Of all the people to end up in charge of -


Should we leave now?"
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"If now's good, yes."

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"Now is perfectly adequate." He's dressed for it, very very elaborately, though his hair is almost loose.

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So she puts them by the gates.

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They do in fact have a blindfold for him, if he doesn't mind, which he doesn't, though he has many many compliments for the area, and then he is introduced to Daeron and their conversation is maybe slightly competitive and people file out to listen to the singing.

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Loki will attend the concert assuming nobody objects.

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Everyone would love to have her! There are thousands of people in attendance, actually, and Thingol and Melian wave at her when they arrive. Father wanted assurance you'd make him silent if he started magicking the walls to rubble or something, Lúthien says. I said you definitely would if it happened but would roll your eyes at me if I asked.

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You were right.

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He doesn't magic the walls to rubble. He just sings, and his voice carries, and he's the only one present who can't see the vivid images that blossom out with the song. The song is of the Darkening of Valinor, and it's alternately mournful and fast-paced and panicky and seared through with grief.

He has, one assumes, the good sense to stop well short of Alqualondë, and he does, the song soaring to its conclusion when the Valar send a herald to reprimand Fëanor tell the Noldor to turn back. "Say this to Manwë Thúlimo, High King of Arda," says Fëanor, stepping forward while in the presence of the herald all the others are forced back. "I will not be idle while Moringotho works evils; I will not let grief or despair or any Vala hold me prisoner while Moringotho is free. Perhaps I cannot overthrow the Enemy, but perhaps Eru has set in me a fire greater than you know. And I do not go alone; in the end all the world's free people will follow me."

I suppose it was too much to expect he'd sing about flowers or something, Lúthien says. He's not bad for a Noldo.
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Loki, who has been recording the entire time, replies, I'm sure he has flowers in his repertoire somewhere. Is it customary to take requests?

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I don't know what the Noldo customs are. But Maglor takes requests. He can do flowers. He can do dinosaur hunting. He can do another hour or so, and then the sun sets, though you barely notice the difference here, and then Daeron sings.

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Loki records Daeron too. Can't have too many songs when she's stuck in the hole.

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They're both so outrageously talented that it's a bit absurd to make comparisons, but the Sindar all come away firmly convinced that the Noldor are better than expected but that Daeron is their clear superior.

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Loki is pretty sure they're relying on facts she doesn't have good enough ears to hear or something.

If they are done with Maglor she can take him home?
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She can! Lovely concert, lovely seeing her.

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And Maglor gets deposited whence he came - she does not bring the blindfold along; it falls to the floor in its wearer's absence - and she goes back to have more of a conversation with Maedhros.

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He's smiling. It was very pretty.

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Yes it was. Were there schemes afoot of a nature I get to know post facto?

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Schemes? Me?

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My goal here is to be in possession of the Silmaril in a sufficiently meaningful sense that the Oath's inactive and to try to be likable enough to Thingol that he's more willing to accept our assistance where it's useful to his people. Friendly musical rivalries seem conducive to that end. Also Maglor and I got to talk about various things too sensitive for letters.

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Makes sense. You think they can read tengwar after all...?

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There cannot be no one in the kingdom who's picked it up.

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Did they inspect your letters?

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If so, they were careful about putting them back how I'd left them. I'm not even inclined to be annoyed if they did, that's a reasonable way for paranoia to manifest.

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I suppose finagling something with illusions relies on Melian not being called upon to contest the illusion. Well, at least you and Maglor got to talk.

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He's not running logistics for me, Amrod is. He wouldn't have time. But it was still useful.

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Good. The concert was spectacular, could you really hear it all right from here?

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Not very well at all, no. I'll ask him to sing it for me some other time.

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I could give you a loop of it. I took it all down.

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Thank you, I'd like that. Do I have a way to make it stop playing?

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Put it inside your bubble of silence?

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That will do it.

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So she attaches Maglor's half of the concert to a convenient object for him. There is also no way to replay it from start, it'll just pick up wherever it is.

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I am disappointed that you did not design your magic better for the convenience of a single Quendi in a war you didn't know you'd be fighting.

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I'm not. If I'd gotten fancier with the illusions I wouldn't have been done with turning into a bird by the time I got here and it was really handy.

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Ah. Well, if it's the reason I was rescued from Angband I guess I'll forgive the illusions the inability to start them at the beginning.

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I could've got you out without that part, probably, but it'd have been messier and harder to take two people at once, especially if you weren't inclined to cooperate.

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I am struggling to think how you could have gotten me out without the ability to turn into a bird.

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I might not have gone in to notice the opportunity in the first place, admittedly. But I walked out and could have walked in, and I think I could have scaled the wall if I were really determined, with Lævateinn for a climbing pick. I could carry two Quendi encumberancewise as long as you weren't squirming too much. Wouldn't have been any harder to turn you invisible. The unpleasant part would be the bit where you'd have fallen while weighing considerably more than a bird and maybe if I couldn't pry the cuff open missing a hand. I mean, I would have fixed it, but still.

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I would have told you to kill me, not attempt a rescue.

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...Might've done it.

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He nods. I would have been very persuasive.

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No doubt.

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Is there an eventual plan for bringing back the dead?

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Several options. One fell swoop while I'm holding infinity stones, might not work on anybody who didn't wind up in Mandos or something. Waiting longer, next spell being resurrection. That I'd probably do anyway for future and non-Ardan dead people. I occasionally fondly consider 'bullying Mandos into handling it' but it's probably a bad call.

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I think it would be.

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Although if I'm going to do it anyway, 'immediately after killing another Vala, holding the method of execution' would be the time.

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You underestimate how intractably stubborn they are. I think they'd react to that by calling on Eru to stop you, and if Eru didn't save them, I think they'd still be debating what to do when you got tired of waiting.

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Unpleasant failure modes both.

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Indeed.

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I do sort of wonder if I should expect Eru to show up at some point in the proceedings, and while I am reasonably confident in infinity stone versus Vala I am not nearly so in infinity stone versus Eru.

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I have absolutely no idea what happens if Eru shows up. I don't understand - he might actually be omnipotent, which if so speaks rather badly of his ethics. He might be a collective fantasy of the Valar, for all I know. Or someone from your universe who decided to run their own.

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Yeah, anything anywhere which is really omnipotent is plainly not a good guy. I did not express this opinion to the converted orcs. Eru's motivations are opaque to me.

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Can you play grateful devotee who was given by Eru's grace the tools to carry out the mission he must have wanted you to carry out? If he shows?

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Wouldn't he know whether his grace and his interest in assigning me missions were in play?
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If you assumed you were acting on them then even if you weren't, you might get in less trouble for trying.

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But suppose he corrects me.

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I do not have anywhere near enough information to start making inferences here. I'm sure at need I could become the sort of person who can serve Eru in a way that advances my goals, but not without any information about what he even is.

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Yeah, I don't know. I may just evacuate the universe if he shows up and isn't saying 'congratulations, that was swell'.

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...and if he stops that?

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Well, then what I can do is a little constrained because that supposes he can prevent me and the Tesseract both from moving stuff around and I am staying put until he decides I can go.

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I mean, should you evacuate the universe before he shows up. Would be the question.

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Major considerations against are that the move might be toxic to Ainur and might kill magic music. Once I can get out I can test my looping songs before I bring everything along with me. I am out of specific Maiar I am definitely willing to kill, alas.

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There are more of them that work for the Enemy.

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Yeah, but I'd have to go hunt one down. And the nuke might have shortened the supply.

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Possibly. You're attached to Thuringwethil?

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I promised not to kill her once I take over the world. I suppose she might volunteer; her priority seems to be not dying in her fated manner.

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The Ainur are so weird. He shakes his head. I probably shouldn't keep you much longer, that was a long concert. Thank you.

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You're welcome. See you later.

And she goes and has a fly and then pops back in the hole.
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There's a volcanic eruption, somewhere; the ash blots out the sun all over the world for a few days.

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Celebrimbor could consider teleporting ash away from key locations; Loki does not think this has to be a two-person job badly enough to emerge.

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So he does that.

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When she comes out on schedule she does some ash-clearing herself as long as she's moving around, and then lands in Doriath as usual.

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It's some sort of annual festival; everyone is outside and there's much dancing and singing and alcohol. Maedhros is outside too, with some guards that seem to resent that they can't participate.

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Poor guards. Hey, how are you?

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I haven't had an occasion to try getting drunk since Angband and am morbidly curious what it'd do to me. Not going to try here, though.

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Probably wise. I will be not-drunk with you.

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Melian's been distracted keeping the sky clear, and Lúthien's been accordingly more stressed.

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You know it's never actually occurred to me to wonder how Ainur territory interacts with airspace.

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Not clear to me either. There's at least some effect.

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Is this a de-stressing-Lúthien festival or was it going to happen regardless?

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This is the festival of the Awakening, we celebrate it at home too though on the Valinor schedule. I do think it's cheering her up, though.

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Well, that's good then.

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Galadriel's brothers are all here too.

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Is that good?

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I get along with all of them well enough, if that's what you mean. You probably will too, they have more conciliatory personalities.

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I hesitate to imagine what a less conciliatory personality would look like.

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She watched most of her family murdered by the other part of her family. I think that brings out the non-conciliatory in most people.

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I suppose.

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Being aggressively unlikeable is a very non-war-effort-damaging way of letting off steam. But anyhow, you'll like Findaráto a great deal.

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We did meet, he gave me some of my song loops.

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Bet he has more for you.

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Ooh.

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He does! There's something that should suffice in place of a gas mask, if the Enemy tries that trick again.

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Ooh, useful. She records it and thanks him delightedly. The whirlwinds weren't really quite enough.

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So he'd been told, and the Quendi can weather that sort of thing easier than Men, so he got to work on it.

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That's very kind of him! She really appreciates it.

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His pleasure! He's heard about her regular visits here from Galadriel; it's good of her.

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...Well isn't that vague about what he's heard. "I need breaks anyway, and it's nice here."

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"It is. Melian and Thingol have brought Valinor to life in the Outer Lands through only the force of their will, and their people are safe and thriving."

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"It's very impressive."

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"And my cousin Lúthien is an extraordinary gift." He watches her idly; she's dancing, but not a magic dance. "We were expecting that there'd be no one here if we didn't arrive fast enough."

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"Lots of people, not even just here."

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"I'm grateful for their resilience and the Enemy's incompetence. Though Círdan tells me they did not have too much longer."

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"With any luck it'll be all mopped up in a few years more."

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He raises an eyebrow. "Let's hope so."

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"I'm working on it."

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"Very diligently, by all accounts." His eyes flicker over to Maedhros. Perhaps I shouldn't confess to receiving any. But yes. We've heard that you are working day and night, and that Ulmo thinks it should work.

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I am and he did.

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Then thank you and all inspiration. And I'm sure Doriath is honored to be where you choose to spend your breaks. Though you're here for him, no?

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I visit with Lúthien too.

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He smiles. Of course. I can't wait until it's possible for everyone who isn't a teleporter or has something worth inconveniencing one with to get from place to place; I'd spend more time here, and I'd love to meet Men.

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Men are turning out pretty nicely. I think they'll best come into their own when they're not wedged into a predominantly Quendi city, but they've found some niches.

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Yes, I can imagine that wouldn't be what's best for them. And my cousins, who are very talented at many things including the running of cities, run them rather tightly, Men would probably do much better among my mother's people.

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Possible. It would have been nice if their original home had been more defensible but at the time I couldn't see Maiar who didn't want to be seen, there wasn't time to build one of those sigil walls up to defensible height - it just made more sense to consolidate. They'll probably opt to separate out again when defensibility isn't such a concern. I might find them their own planet.

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I'd be grieved if being on separate planets turned out to be the best way for Quendi and Men to live in harmony.

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Well, it'll depend on what they want. I didn't set myself up as their queen, I think that would have been a mistake with a young species. They don't dislike Quendi or anything, though there is the occasional cultural collision and the economic integration's awkward. They get along great with Dwarves.

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Economic integration will be less of a concern when the war's ended as well.

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What do you mean?

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Well, at a guess Himring will stop having an inflexible planned economy that's oriented entirely towards turning out magic weapons and armor and defenses and that's extremely demanding of its citizens' time. I don't think my cousins will desire that in peacetime.

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That's true, although I don't think it'll completely close the gap.

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I think it'll leave Men and Elves with different strengths, instead of with one subsuming the other.

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The Men have mostly been able to keep up in new fields that Quendi haven't dominated by virtue of centuries of experience. And even then they're inhibited by lack of prerequisite background - electrical engineering took a lot of math they're just too young to have absorbed as well as their counterparts, although some of them managed it anyway. That part should sort itself out a little with time alone, though. The only unambiguous advantage of Men is that they have kids around - Quendi rent them - and that discrepancy will disappear postwar.

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Well, there's always new fields being invented, and Men work faster - perhaps not faster than the house of Fëanor, but faster than most Quendi - which lends itself to many fields - journalism?

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Ooh, I like it!

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I'm sure there are others I won't think of, being myself Quendi - shipping, maybe, if teleportation had not obviated it.

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Well, I could teach them to teleport. I'm planning to share that around a lot more after the war.

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It seems like it's needed more in wartime, no?

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The problem is I can't transmit the spells bare, they'd all come with the ability to reverse-engineer them.

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Ah. He nods.

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But once I can do the part where I can get back to my own galaxy it's much less of a problem, my galaxy can roll with that kind of capability readily.

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You have our trust, don't worry.

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That's always nice to know.

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Care to dance?

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Sure. Dancing is nice.

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Dancing is nice! They have a lovely time. When they stop and go to get some water they run into Galadriel, who looks more relaxed and smiles at her brother. "See? Right on schedule."

"Galadriel told me you'd stop by, and I was hoping to see you again," he confesses immediately. "Water?"
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"Water." Slightly iced water. Yum. "Anything in particular besides the air filtration song you wanted to bring up?"

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"No, just that. We treat our Feanorian and his Silmaril more agreeably, so we get to see less of you."

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"Well, you also didn't get the one I play Governor with. But I can come by more if you like."

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"It sounds like your time is very thoroughly laid claim to. You play Governor with Maedhros? How does that go?"

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"I win about half the time."

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"I am not saying he rigs the games and I doubt that he does, actually, and I'm not even really talking about Governor, but the thing about Maedhros is that the people working with him tend to win half the time and also he wins every time."

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"Well, commenting strictly on Governor, I don't think he lets me win."

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"It's meant for four people, you know."

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"Yeah, we've never actually done it that way so far."

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"If you're ever interested do drop by New Mithrim, you'd have no trouble finding other players. And everyone would be relieved to see Maedhros so well and happy."

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"Noted."

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And he wishes her well and melts off.

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Well, that was nice.

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Maedhros is smiling at her. See? Much more diplomatic than his sister, isn't he? Thingol's enchanted with him and I think has considered naming him his heir.

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Not Lúthien?

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She's a girl. I realize that this is utterly ridiculous in general and also probably to Asgardians particularly.

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Incredibly.

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If she had a son he'd probably be Thingol's heir, that's allowed in place of anything better.

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Bleah.

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My parents solved this problem by having seven sons.

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...what, on purpose? Do Quendi get to gender-select their kids?

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Did you notice that the House of Finwë has a gender ratio that makes no sense at all? Because we do. My uncles both had three sons and then a daughter; my parents never got around to the daughter.

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It could have been chance. Huh. For most people that would require some kind of clinical intervention.

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The probability of five, even, isn't that bad. Seven is very statistically unlikely, were it at random. I don't know how it's done.

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Well, any specific arrangement of genders is equally statistically likely, and I didn't know there was a reason to deliberately bias for sons like that.

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The whole rest of Valinor biased for girls when they noticed how the House of Finwë was tilting. Bit unfortunate.

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...lovely.

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I always thought it was kind of amusing, really.

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Why?

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Oh, just - people being predictably shortsighted and getting a mildly silly result, no real harm done.

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I can't help but wonder if an inconvenient number of them exclusively like boys and didn't have enough to go around.

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Yes, that did result, but they'll find boys eventually, the next generation corrected for the situation.

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Maybe there will be a rash of marrying aliens or something.

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At least ten different people have asked me if I'm pursuing you. It's a little annoying. I will have to tell Tyelcormo that I understand why he started physically assaulting people who asked if he was involved with Irissë.

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...Nobody's asked me.

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They've all known me longer. Or perhaps they think my obvious affections are obviously unrequited. He's smiling.

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I mean, I'm great and everything, but what do they think they're seeing?

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...probably my known fetish for people who it'd politically advantage me to be involved with, and we regularly vanished together for long visits during which I did not go home. I'm sorry, if I'd been thinking about appearances I'd have structured things a little differently.

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Snort. I don't care if people think it on my own behalf unless it means they're going to consider me a puppet; that would be annoying. And even if you weren't engaged and didn't think there was like a forty percent chance I'm evil and do you even like girls at all and the fucking soul graft thing that I don't want to touch - okay, that's too many ands, but removing only three of those conditions would not suffice to get me to go there.

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Did he parse that right? Well.



Sadly we cannot tell people any of those reasons that their hopes are in vain. A hazard of being around me at all is that people will warn you you're being manipulated by me but I don't think it's particularly worsened by vague romantic speculation so you needn't put particular energy into quashing it.
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Good, I have enough to do.

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Or ask me to do it for you, I mean, I don't expect rumor-quashing to be a particular expertise of yours anyway.

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It's not. I would've had to develop it if I'd slipped up or Sigyn hadn't kept his mouth shut when I healed him or something but I was lucky.

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I consider this rumor's prevalence to be evidence that I am very, very good.

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Fair enough. Is Galadriel not running around making use of your permission to tell people which of your cousins you're with?

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Hmm? Of course not, I wouldn't have given it if there were any chance she would.

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Of course.

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She doesn't want to hurt Findekáno. She wants to hurt me, and she realizes that sharing something like that is stooping pretty low even towards that goal, so if it does not seem decisively likely to hurt me she'd never do it. Telling her she can is telling her that I don't expect it to.

Which is not quite true. Though I think the conclusions people'd
then jump to would hurt Findekáno more.
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What conclusions?

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I manipulated him, possibly on my father's orders or possibly just for personal amusement. He lets me, so his judgment can't be trusted, whereas it's only my character that's in question and it's already thought rather poorly of.

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He has a countervailing narrative but I think he'd hesitate to use it.

It's a shame we can't smear abstract concepts through the cosmos along with Morgoth, isn't it?
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Oh, would that we could. I can't even think of a stone that would do the job, at least outright instead of by messing with people's heads.

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I don't want to mess with anyone's heads. I just want to not be distracted from winning this stupid war.

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Likewise.

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Anyway, if Galadriel thinks that'll be the narrative she won't share, why would she?

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Makes sense.

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There are a million ways to achieve her goals with her current resources but I don't think she'll stumble on them, she's not trying very hard. I think she may want to be trying to hurt me more than she actually wants me hurt, at least seriously hurt.

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Interesting.

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Optimistically this is because she's noticed I'm useful for the war effort. Pessimistically it's just that she doesn't want to feel like a bad person.

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And trying to hurt you doesn't make her feel like a bad person?

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Trying to hurt me is necessary to not feel like a bad person, otherwise she's betraying the memory of the people she's grieving. But hurting me would not feel great either. So she ineffectually tries.

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Ah.

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I'm not angry with her. I would be angry if she hurt Findekáno to get to me but so far she hasn't.

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Nod.

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He sighs. And soon it will all be over and I will tell my father I'm taking Findekáno off to a vacation planet and see what happens.

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Soon as I can make it.

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You have rather stronger motivations.

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That doesn't mean this one can't go on the heap with the rest.

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End the evil god, avenge the torture of your friends, save the world, and make my sex life simpler.

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And mine, oh stars.

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He shakes his head. It was good seeing you as always.

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Later.

And home she goes.
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And eight weeks pass uneventfully.

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She stops at New Mithrim. Maybe they really do miss her.

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They do! They express great delight to see her and regret she stops by so rarely.

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Well, here she is. Hello everybody. Need anything?

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They're managing. They're in contact with the hidden city, they have all the latest defenses up, food's going to be a bit short because of the ash but not too bad.

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She can shoo some ash as long as she's here. Away with you, ash.

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Celebrimbor comes by and does it occasionally too. Poor kid. Thanks, though.

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They are welcome.

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Does she want to do anything? Sailing race? Poetry?

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Not to her taste - and she still does not actually speak any of the local languages and this is not the bunch that learned Asgardian - but they're too kind. Anybody want to spar?

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They are happy to. This is as badly matched as the last time she tried sparring, but entertaining for all involved.

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And so very much not being cooped up alone in a room listening to music and manipulating spell symbols! Almost the opposite of that!

And when she is done there she goes to Doriath.
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Lúthien and Maedhros are sitting in his cell talking again, and both express delight to see her.

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"Hi there. What'd I interrupt you talking about?"

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"My father."

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"What about him?"

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"Maedhros was saying that sometimes serving his father's best self isn't the same thing as doing what his father says and he gets really stuck whenever that's true, and we were talking about where - that might be true for my father, and who can sort of interface with him the way Maedhros and his brothers do."

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What a cunning conversation topic. Loki nods.

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"The difference," she says, "is that Maedhros' father trusts them and they're all really capable and he lets them do most of the work of governing. And even if I could get that capable, there's one of me, not seven."

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"And apparently it matters - negatively - for your political prospects that you're a girl, that surprised me."

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"I don't even - that's not even a thing Eru says, that's just the way things are. Here and in Valinor. There aren't any women leading tribes of Elves, and people don't think of it."

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"It doesn't seem to have any marked improvements over the other way around."

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"Both seem stupid, honestly. But Father's not going to start seeing me the way he'd see a son."

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"You'd know better than I."

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Maedhros was saying that he thinks, in practice, that isn't really what I need, and I could end up running a lot of things without being seen as suited to run them or as having much hand in them. That sounds hard.

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It's nice work if you can get it. I don't have quite the stealth for the full blown version of what he recommends but I wound up running Asgard's foreign policy because it exasperated Odin and Thor.

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Foreign policy definitely exasperates my father.

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Is that why I have not been steered into talking to him instead of always going to you first with questions and comments?

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I wasn't doing anything deliberate, just - figured I'd have an easier time finding the words for him. Maybe that's the same thing, though. He just really does not like surprises and tends to overreact when hearing them.

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I've found your help very useful in mediating between him and me.

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She smiles. Then she looks back at Maedhros, unhappily. Did you try to talk him down from the Kinslaying?


No,
he says after a pause. I didn't. We didn't think we were going to a Kinslaying, obviously, and my father's decisiveness is also sometimes one of his best governing skills, and I'd already offered my aid in the capacity I could most meaningfully offer it - I'd said that if he were willing to wait a few months I could perhaps change Olwë's mind about the boats. He was not willing to wait a few months. Another skill that is helpful for running things quietly is always having good alternatives to offer your king when the course he's considering is a bad one. When there are no good choices people, unsurprisingly, make bad choices.

She's frowning at him. Most of us don't kill people.

Every course forward from that beach killed people. The difference was that some courses meant we wouldn't have had to watch them die. If we'd sat there and it'd taken me a Year to bring Olwë around - and it might have - would you hold me guiltless in the fall of Brithombar? It wouldn't have stood that long...

It wouldn't have been your fault.

I'm sure they'd have taken much comfort in that.
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So you don't regret -


I regret it very deeply, it was an awful wrong and an awful crime and a terrible terrible mistake. The regrets are just mostly further upstream than the moment we tried to steal the boats - I should have anticipated the problem and gone out ahead to make our case to Olwë, I should have pushed harder on developing things that would let us cross the Helcaraxe back in the noontide of Valinor, when the Noldor started forging swords it should have occurred to me to take precautions, to do training, so we knew how to do things other than stab orcs, I should have broken the news of the King's death to Father more gently so it did not nearly kill him...

And even after you hadn't done all that, you shouldn't have tried stealing boats.

We shouldn't have. It... matters to me that it was a costly series of mistakes rather than a costly single one. I have to prevent all future errors in that category and I cannot prevent every mistake but I am very confident I can prevent another Kinslaying precisely because of how many mistakes led us there. But yes.

All of the other mistakes are ones anyone could make, but no one else would try stealing boats.

Do you think that?

Yes!

The people you know would not even consider stealing things that are treasured by others and whose owners might defend them because they'll keep your own people safe?

The Silmaril glitters brightly on his chest.

We gave it back,
she says. You burned the boats.

About that I have no nuance to add, no catalogue of subtle failings, no defense at all. We did and it was an unspeakable evil.

But for the Kinslaying you are bursting with nuance.

For the Kinslaying I am bursting mostly with grief. I lost friends that day, people I'd known since early childhood, people who'd helped raise me and helped me raise my little brothers, the people they'd fallen in love with and their children who I'd watched grow up. And we cannot mourn them, not aloud, not - with nuance, because there's something abhorrent about making a crime all about the scars it left on the perpetuators. But it's there. I loved them, and I miss them, and I would answer for their crimes a thousand times over if I could find a place along the way to cry out that if we had given them any good path they would have taken it, that they cannot earn their redemption in this land but - but aren't monsters even without it.

I don't think I blame your people.

Thank you.

You ordered them into a Kinslaying.

An evil at least as great as personally committing one.

And now you are using them to get sympathy for -

No,
he says, I'm not; we have just discussed at length that this is not your decision to make, or I would not have mentioned them. I will not use the dead in my defense, but you and I can speak of them, striving as we are to stop Kings from erring terribly.

She frowns. Sighs. Looks at Loki. Lovely topic, isn't it?
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Not exactly flowers and nightingales, but there's no need to change the subject on my account.

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I don't know that there's more to say. They did it. They wouldn't do it again. - would you do it again if it had worked?


Maedhros frowns. If we'd gotten away with no one dead? For some reason that was persistently going to be true? Yes, unless I also had the information that time wasn't particularly essential to our odds of winning the war here.

You're pretty bad at repentance.

I really really want the Enemy dead. Of all my faults it seems particularly forgivable.
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Loki nods, at that.

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The Enemy obviously benefitted from the Kinslaying, she says.

It has crossed my mind. We've been more than an annoyance to him since, though.
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It seems worth pointing out that a primary benefit of the entire mess, to the Enemy, is that the reaction to its perpetrators was so predictably fracturing.

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And the primary benefit he gets from torturing people and depositing their shells at our doorstep, she says, um, no offense to present company or anything you seem very recovered, is that we will find it upsetting. I'm not sure we should stop finding torture upsetting so he can't manipulate us with it.

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There's a difference between being upset and being manipulated. He took Vár and made sure I knew it so I'd do something stupid. The correct response was to make this a grievous misstep on his part, not to go and do something stupid. He sent me peaceful orcs with their babies to see if I'd overextend myself trying to safely harbor them. The correct response was to hoard my time and energy that he'd so kindly signaled he didn't want me to use on anything that got me closer to killing him. If the Enemy does something, and you can tell exactly what benefit he's hoping to draw from your reaction to it, if at all possible the correct response is to make a fool of him for thinking you'd be so easily played.

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...he hasn't been attacking Doriath with the things he's been sending after your cities, missiles and earthquakes and clouds of poison gas. I think it's because we have the Silmaril - not that the Silmaril stops him, but he's waiting for trouble to arise over the Silmaril.
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Yep. He went and announced where it was to the Fëanorians. They are doing their level best to make a fool out of him for it.

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But the sooner he concludes that it's not working, the sooner he tries something else, probably something that gets people killed.

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Oh, I'm not saying you should loudly proclaim that you have no grievances with any fellow opposition to the Enemy and the Silmarils should all be kept together by the House of Fëanor on their own turf. I'm not even convinced this isn't the best place for the Silmaril to be, which you can tell because it is still here. But you don't have to be predictably fractious about it.

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This isn't the best place for the Silmaril to be, Maedhros says wearily, not if we were actually all collaborating and only making a pretense of disunity. They complement each other and are more powerful wielded together. But this is a perfectly fine place for it to be, and Doriath may be spared the Enemy's attention as long as he expects us to attack it and I don't know how good his intelligence is.

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Well, we're not all collaborating and only making a pretense of disunity, Loki points out.

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I had noticed. I just didn't want anyone thinking this was optimal for more than political expedience.

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I know. It was explained to me.

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I told them not to explain it to you.

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They explained it to me anyway. Why didn't you want them to?

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Under the circumstances explaining the strategic and humanitarian justifications for having them all in one place could have sounded like an explanation of why you could expect us to sneak this one out, and given that we'd decided not to sneak this one out it didn't seem like a good idea to explain how strong our incentives to do it were.

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Well, how fortunate I didn't take it that way.

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If we'd been having a conversation about which course of action to take, I'd have explained it. I am not a big fan of pointing out the cost to us of courses of action we've already agreed on.

And only to Loki, If something had gone wrong here and I hadn't been able to handle being held down and I'd asked Celebrimbor to come get me and it out of here it would have looked very convenient.
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I suppose it would have, she replies likewise privately; and to both, No point to dwelling on them, but every now and then there's a way to mitigate those costs. I didn't think of any this time, but if there had been some opportunity I would have known that the Silmarils' effectiveness had this condition.

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My apologies, he says. You should pick my father's brain about it, he is the only person who has I think a precise understanding of everything that can be done with them. Everyone, including us, is currently wielding them very clumsily, compared to what is possible in principle.

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Will do. Since he's the person she can talk to while they're both running at threefold speed.

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So you can use it to do all sorts of things from here? Lúthien says. I am pretty convinced at this point that you're not going to, but I assumed Father was just being paranoid.


It would take me centuries,
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Your father?


Is an engineer. Pretty good at it. I actually think you'd like him, he's - good for ambitious people, very comfortable shifting into a supportive role where it makes the most sense, not at all controlling in the scope of fathers I've seen. Wants the Enemy dead as badly as I do.
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He's brilliant. And a good conversationalist, if you don't mind occasional linguistics digressions about your idiom use or grammatical register.

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Occasional! says Maedhros. He must have mellowed in old age. After the war, perhaps, you can meet him and he'll probably barrage you with questions about being half-Maia and experiments he'll assume you've already thought of and done about your own abilities.

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Now I'm surprised he hasn't interrogated me about my ice powers and what I've been able to observe about my pretending-to-be-an-Asgardian spell.

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That surprises me also. I suppose you learned of them right when you were confronting Thauron and he is good at not being sidetracked when there's that much at stake. You could probably easily prompt him into it

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I might do. Although the circumstances when we wind up chatting aren't really suited to determining maximum volume of ice per second or anything.

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What's he working on at the moment, do you know?

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I don't.

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He's not running your kingdom? Lúthien says.

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I mean to pay him the highest possible compliment when I opine that it would be a waste of his time.

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Maedhros grins. Loki, Lúthien wanted to see Tirion and I remembered I got distracted from showing you. Care to go back?

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Sure!

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So they spend a very pleasant few hours wandering around Maedhros' memories of the city, and then climb the walls and watch the Mingling, and then he lets it fade.

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It seems astonishingly functional as a city considering how much it's optimized for aesthetics above all.

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When you have no shortage of anything at all, it's not really hard to do impressively on both fronts. But yes, a lot of work went into keeping it running smoothly.

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Even without material scarcity the unscarce things need to move from place to place.

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Which is how I earned - well, I didn't earn all my pretty titles, I was born to them, but it's how I earned the feeling that I entirely merited them.

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All your titles? How many do you have?

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Hmmm? In Aman I was the governor of three provinces and had formal standing in two Cuivienen-era tribal councils, was advisor on Waters to Ingwë of the Vanyar - High King of the Elves, technically, though I don't think anyone but the Vanyar thought their king was any higher than any of ours - his advisors were in fact Chair of Waters, Chair of Fire, Chair of Air and so forth, Waters was shipping and infrastructure, Ingwë's a delightful man - my own King's domestic policy advisor and heir presumptive in the sense that meant anything -

Valinor moved so slowly, you had to have lots of threads moving to actually get anywhere in a tolerable length of time.
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Huh. I've just got Princess and my military rank and something that I basically hold only to convince the foreign policy people that they really don't need to try harder to bother Odin. Everything else is informal or untitled.

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The Noldor really really like titles. And names for things, generally. It made introductions drag out but it also made them genuinely informative, you got a very good sense of a person by the time you knew their name.

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If someone wanted to introduce me informatively they'd probably start listing Things I've Killed. That list will... get longer when I go home and update everybody, assuming I'm not banished again and more firmly this time.

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He laughs. In this war the Asgardian excitement about killing things seems wholly warranted. I plan to when I have a thousand years free learn to fight like that.

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I'm not even a thousand years old yet, she points out.

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I expect you are unusually talented, and there's no reason to expect I will be.

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I could cast my grace spell on you. Well, not here, I'm not supposed to use spells that affect living things in Doriath. That's my talent, the entirety of it.

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Quendi are - probably not as graceful as a spell for perfect grace, but pretty good. What we lack is systemized knowledge, on this subject. I've been terribly tempted to take it up anyway but there's no way to justify it as a use of my time.

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My education was excellent. I just don't think it would take a given graceful person a thousand years to match me if they had the same - you couldn't have my exact tutors and practices, admittedly.

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You mean there's no one in your promised big galaxy who could temporarily make me look like an Asgardian girl?

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If you would like to be disguised as an Asgardian girl, that can be arranged and you won't have to go very far for it. But you will not be convincing anyone that you are Odin's missing third child, and royalty hath its retired master swordswomen who give lessons once a century and so on. I suppose you could make it a project to be Thor's best friend and she'll strongarm everyone into tutoring you.

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All our royalty hath is enough jewelry that if you wore a tenth you couldn't walk.

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Less practically useful. But ever so shiny.

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And then Lúthien has to go attend a dinner and hugs Loki and it's getting quite late, isn't it? They did wander a while in Valinor.

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It is getting late. Hug.

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Lúthien does not hug Maedhros but she smiles at him cheerfully and then leaves.

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Well, that was an interesting conversation.

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I am not sure if Thingol will let me spend the next year talking statecraft with his bright, ambitious, conflicted daughter who he's criminally underusing but if he does that'd be lovely.

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I'm looking forward to her getting to go anywhere.

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We did memory-tours of Tumunzahar and Himring and everywhere else in Beleriand I remembered. Though the Thindar have this obnoxious attitude towards Dwarves.

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They used to hunt them. I'm impressed they recovered from that.

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Not sure how it works with Allspeak anyway, but - the Thindarin word for Dwarves, 'Naugrim', means 'stunted people'. I expect the Dwarves are less than amused. The Quenya is going to be 'casari', which is loaned from their own name, Khazad.

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The Dwarves would hear their own language when I speak - it alarmed them, they didn't want me to have learned it - so I can at least be fairly confident I haven't called them slurs to their faces, but I'll pick up the Quenya phoneme set for extra insurance.

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Father was doing some interesting collaborative experimental work with them before we all had to teleport out.

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Oh? What on?

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I have no idea. Too foundational to sum up in terms of what cool powers would result, I think.

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Ooh, pure research.

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It would eventually have cool applications. My father likes being able to impress people without taking a decade to get them up to speed. But distant and not specific cool applications, I think.

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Maybe I'll ask him about that too.

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Thanks for stopping by. We have latitude for more visitors but there's no one specifically I need, so if anyone wants to stop by and not be allowed to see Menegroth - not my father, though, that's a recipe for disaster -

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I'll pass that along. See you in eight weeks.

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I will look forward to it.

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And Loki departs, and passes on appropriate messages, and asks Fëanor while she's in the hole about his pure research with the Dwarves and why he hasn't quizzed her on her ice powers.

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I have so many science books I'm not sure I'd be able to think about anything else. Have you checked the obvious things - maximum volume of ice per second, is temperature fixed, does it in fact melt to pure water, are you reducing heat in a closed system or sucking it out of the air?

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Air around me doesn't get warmer; it's possible I get warmer. I can do freezing temperature and colder. Haven't done maximum volume experiments and suspect confounded results because if I'm really pouring it out I keep having to heal myself; regular frost giants limit it to a blast or three even in lethal combat. Don't know if the water's pure, but it melts.

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That last one would be the most interesting to me. If it's not pure water it'd have rather fascinating implications.


The project I was working on with the Dwarves will take at least a century to bear fruit; I have reluctantly abandoned it until the war is over. We eventually want to teach the universe a correspondence between certain higher-level concepts and the way they're written into magic metalworking so one can do the metalworking with reference to those in places and do it correspondingly faster.
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Ooh, that sounds really great! You might want to learn about computers first though.

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I briefly looked into trying to build them. Also not likely to bear fruit in the next decade, not with the unreliable access to mining options that are inherent in possibly having to teleport the city away.

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Well, in the next decade you will be able to go get parts to acquire them or build them at whatever level of granularity interests you.

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If all goes well, yes.


What are the odds Elu would agree to switching out Maedhros for a day so he can come home? What are the odds Maedhros'd agree?
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Probably susceptible to their concerns about transmitting facts about the layout of Menegroth, but he might be able to finagle it, he's handling them very deftly. Whether he'd agree I can't predict.

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I would appreciate it if you'd ask him.
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Then I will.

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Even when he didn't have the Silmaril, he did not take any of his breaks here. I am - worried about him to the extent it's distracting, but have no particular desire to tell him that when our relationship is in its current terms.
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They want me supervising him when he's out. This may be a factor.

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I can't think of any examples that capture my worries well without being - vaguely confrontational.


This may be something wisely left for after the war, especially if it might distract you.
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If you like. I don't know what you're getting at.

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I know my son pretty well. He would have attempted to feel out your reaction should he decide to formally or informally seize power from me - ah, probably before his city was even finished, certainly before we moved into it.

The difference is that before the war he'd have also told me he was doing that. He'd point out, you know, that anyone hesitant to cooperate with us because they've heard about my recklessness might be reassured by a vague implication he's willing and able to stop me, and I'd agree that this was a legitimate strategic priority. It seems to me that from Maedhros' perspective the old approach is strictly superior - he gets exactly the same - understanding, or leverage, or a least information about what reaction he'd need to expect from you - but minimizes the risks I hear rumors and feel undermined and start feeling like there's tremendous intellectual overhead just to having conversations with my son.

But he hasn't done that. That example is illustrative but not the most worrying. He has in general not done that. He is no longer trying to keep me apace of anything he's doing except in the sense of 'I am going to destroy the Enemy as efficiently as possible', and I am much less useful when less informed, and I'm trying to figure out what - assumptions on his part - could be creating the problem.
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He's currently about sixty percent convinced this is real, is the obvious difference.
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Yes, that comes to mind. The other possibilities are 'something that only works if he doesn't explain it' - annoying but not impossible, but a lot of things that meet that criteria are dangerous oaths... 'he actually thinks our goals diverge', which worries me - I have wondered if he intends to kill himself once we win the war... 'he really prefers not interacting with me' - in which case it'd be a bad idea to mention that any of this is concerning to me, he will certainly add 'spend more time around my father' to his list of priorities - if he were spending breaks with Maglor or something that would also concern me less. He needs someone. You're a lovely person but talking with you is barely lower stakes than talking with Elu.

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He did get to talk to Maglor when he was there for the concert. I... don't think he has taken any dangerous oaths but I might not know, I don't think he's planning to kill himself after the war although I imagine the option is on his mind occasionally. I don't try to be high stakes...

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I didn't expect you to have answers or to share them if you do have them. I'm not confident it's wise to talk with him at all. He's achieving his goals right now. It might be a delicate balance, it might be unwise to try to shake it.

I do want to communicate to him that barring some extremely dangerous oaths case he's never going to be worse off as a consequence of giving me more information. I don't like being handled with selective truths and that's the obvious commitment to make to avoid that.
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I'll tell him.

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Mental equivalent of a sigh. They both get back to work.

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And Loki goes and visits Maedhros again when she emerges.

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He is not currently talking with Lúthien but says she just left and will probably be back soon.

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Your father wants to know if you and/or Doriath would be willing to swap you out for a day so you can visit home. And he wants me to tell you that barring some extremely dangerous oaths case you're never going to be worse off as a consequence of giving him more information.

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...is something wrong at home? What does he want from me?

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I don't think anything in particular is wrong, exactly, but it was definitely noticed that you didn't take any breaks there.

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I should have thought of that. Tell him I'd be delighted but it's a sensitive moment, perhaps I'll raise it with Lúthien when I'm next positioned to do that.

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Okay.

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...you think that's a mistake?

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I don't know if it's a mistake not to ask to be swapped out today; that has all to do with where you are with Lúthien and Elu. But it does seem like you don't believe him about the more information thing and I don't know why.

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It's more that 'go home and tell him everything under the unusual amnesty that if he hears it from my mouth he won't hold it against me' is very overwhelming and I am not at all sure - I'd need to recalculate everything - it's not even entirely mine to - he means it. He always does.


I should have thought about it more and taken a few trips home.
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If you want me to go ask Fingon what he thinks of it I can do that.

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Do you think I should?

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If there is not some reason which is distinctly non-obvious to me why you shouldn't? Yes. But it's up to you.

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You have all the relevant considerations. Why? Just because it's nicer to have fewer secrets, or are you worried that the current situation gives the Enemy leverage-

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Shrug. If I were him I'd want very badly to know.

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No, you wouldn't. You're being - too Asgardian about it. But you can ask Findekáno.

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I would also want to know if my children took up some habit I genuinely disapproved of.

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Oh, in that sense yes.

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Not even so much so that I could find a way to do something about it, necessarily, just - to avoid having it talked around - I did feel bad on occasion for not telling Frigg I was a sorcerer.

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And so you don't have to lie for me to a father who's apparently decided to devote some fraction of his attention to my wellbeing. I honestly didn't think he'd bother as long as I was still doing my job.

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Well, you were mistaken.

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If you don't mind asking Findekáno -

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Off she pops to the Nolofinwëans.

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Who are celebrating the birthday of Fingon's niece, but it's no trouble for him to slip out for a moment. "Loki."

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"Hello." Slightly sensitive question for you.

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His face goes absently pleasant. Mmm?

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Fëanor has with apparent credibility if not an actual oath promised that Maedhros will not be worse off for supplying him with information. Maedhros is considering supplying him with information, but of course not all his information is his alone.

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Still absently pleasant. No.

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If you say so.

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"Can we get a copy of one of your physics books while you're here, Loki? I have a blank to attach pages to somewhere..." He walks out of the room. Maedhros 'won't be worse off', hmm?

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"Sure, no problem." I was assuming that he meant by Maedhros's own lights, there.

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He closes the door. I actually don't think he's being clever with wording. He wouldn't do that. It's just - I owe him less than nothing, I'm not sure it'd be good for Maedhros, and then the narrative if it gets out more generally - not through action on Fëanor's part -

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If not through action on Fëanor's part how would this get it out?

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The Enemy knows. We're used to his lies at this point but it would not be unlike my father to say 'Fingon, settle the latest lie the Enemy's spreading with a public oath it's false, that's easy...'

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- what does that have to do with whether Fëanor hears it from Maedhros, though...?

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If it gets out at all, the fact it happened with Fëanor's knowledge is a political disaster for - well, mostly for me, but also I think it'd damage Maedhros.

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The nuances of that are a bit lost on me.

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Hmm. Alright. One option would be for Fëanor to at that point react as if he hadn't known, and hope he can do it convincingly, but he's a bad liar. More likely, he just declines to react, which reads as 'my son was acting with my leave' which is - I'm sure there are atrocities by Asgardian standards where having some of your soldiers sneaking around doing it is embarrassing and damaging, but the implication they had instructions or the tacit approval of their command would be far moreso?

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Yes.

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So.

Maedhros would anticipate this and could I guess choreograph a suitable reaction on his father's part if everything comes out.
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Seems like the sort of thing his talents lend themselves to.

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Does he want to do it?

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It's sort of hard to tell, but he said I could ask you.

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The reason to would be if he does think it'll come out and that his father's reaction would endanger the war effort.

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...I'm going to try not inserting my cultural opinions at every opportunity and see what happens.

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Yeah, I think you need to substitute it with - with the news that one of your crown princesses put things in peoples' drinks - obviously it's unconscionable to endanger the war effort but it'd also be unconscionable to say 'well, it's their private life', it's genuinely a hard line to draw.

He sits down. Can you take me invisibly to Maedhros?
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...I could, but they have opinions about Noldor in Doriath and I am trying to limit the extent to which I make rude gestures at Doriath's opinions.

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Fine. Tell him I'm sure he's thought of all of the considerations I have.

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All right. Anything else?

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"Thank you for the book."

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...She flips quickly through the pages under a single layer of accelerated perception song and prints him a book. "You're welcome."

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And he takes it back to his niece's party.

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And she goes back to Maedhros.

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Who asked Lúthien if he could be swapped for a day, and she said yes certainly. He smiles ruefully as he conveys this.

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Oh good. Who shall I fetch?

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'would take more than twelve hours to start a war' disqualifies a startling number of my brothers. Maybe Maglor?

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I will go get Maglor.

And she goes and asks Maglor if he'd like to swap Maedhros for a bit.
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He'd be happy to, he's been wondering whether Maedhros was going to ever come home.

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Pop.

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The two of them look at each other. Maedhros hands Maglor the Silmaril and sound baffle. Maglor takes the sound baffle and tosses it across the room. "I promise not to shake a single mote of dust off the walls," he says, "but I'm not putting up with that. Go home. Get some light. You look like a ghost."

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...When the sound baffle is across the room Loki has to kill the loop of the concert, which she does. "Thank you," she tells Maglor, and she pops Maedhros out -

- to nowhere in particular. "Fingon wanted to talk to you and I didn't want to pop him invisibly into Doriath, but I could bring you there, if you want to see him first -?"
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"Yes, please."

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She turns him invisible and lands within osanwë distance of the Nolofinwëans. Maglor swapped places with him. Can you slip out again?

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Yes.

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Pop into his room. De-invisible Maedhros.

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He finds them there a minute later. His face looks even more blandly relaxed than before. I realize it's a bad moment to rehash all of this but I have not forgiven your father and don't see how or when I will, he hasn't apologized.


This wouldn't be a favor to him,
Maedhros says, he's going to be furious and unable to do anything about it.

And they do not loop Loki into the conversation from there.
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She doesn't pry.

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It is a heated staring contest/conversation. At one point Fingon angrily takes a step forward and Maedhros flinches and then they go back to angry silent staring and then -

Take me home, please, Maedhros says.
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Loki takes him home.

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He gets something of a hero's welcome in Himring. It seems to rather drain at him. Does he want to see me now?

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Probably.

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Are you still obliged to chaperone if I'm speaking with family?

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I was never told otherwise, but demonstrably I don't care if that means 'paying attention to other things in the same room while the telepathic conversation doesn't include me'.

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I apologize for putting you in a position of keeping secrets for me.

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It's all right.

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Have you seen my father's rooms, here? I didn't have you illusion them for the symbolic reasons... They go upstairs.

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Haven't had occasion.

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They are rather spectacular. Wasted, really, on someone who spends practically all of his time in the workshop. One of Miriel's tapestries is on the opposite wall where a window might be; it shows the Quendi inventing fire.

"...Maedhros." says his father. "Thank you for coming. I hope you're not here just to appease me."

"I have not exactly decided yet. I'm also supposed to be supervised." He nods at Loki.

"Yes, I've heard.


What are you doing after the war?"

"That's not exactly the question I was expecting you to lead with," he says after a second.

"'Anything to say to me?' seemed a bit confrontational. I think this one gets at, of the things that are worrying me, the ones I have the most right to want to know about."
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(Loki politely does not attend to the conversation.)

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"You are my king and have the right to know anything you want," he says at once.

"Or at least everything the Enemy couldn't use, since you think perhaps I'm not your king or your father at all. Anyhow, you don't tell me everything and I'd rather you lie with my leave than without it. So. Just that question. I was thinking perhaps after the war I could walk you through our engineering work carefully enough you're convinced of it -"

"Thank you. That would be lovely."

"Do you want to be here, Maedhros?"

"Not really. I am feeling very trapped right now and I hate feeling trapped. I think I should probably be here anyway."

"I'm working on eidetic memory that's not a necklace."

"Why? It's not a good priority."

"I'm trying to acquire some more sympathetic character flaws, like prioritizing my children too much or something."

Maedhros actually does smile.

Fëanor picks up a pen and paper and starts writing, and writes for twenty minutes, uninterrupted.

"I've been pretending I'm coping much better than I am because I need everyone to trust me, I don't remember most of my life and in particular don't remember why I ever - if I ever - if I'm not talking to you like I used to I can't, I don't know how I used to do it - and I haven't let the necklace fix it because I'm scared if you are the Enemy I'd be letting you put your own pieces in me - and I am only unhappy in Doriath because it'd be very hard to kill myself if I suddenly needed to and after the war I might take Loki up on a job wrangling frost giants but first I'm taking Findekáno to a vacation planet somewhere sexually liberal because we've been secretly involved for several centuries and I don't feel comfortable around you because you could hurt me, in a way that promising not to wouldn't really fix, and this discomfort seems to be persistent and intractable and a feature of everyone who has more power than me and I think it might go away once I have teleportation.

I think that's everything."

"Okay," he says. "Seems like indelible eidetic memory is in fact a pretty good priority. Wrangling frost giants to do what?"
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Loki looks up when she hears 'frost giants'. "...Um, ending the war between them and Asgard, which I am probably interestingly placed to do but not best skilled to do alone."

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"Do you want to be the new Quendi planet's emissary to Loki's by-the-time-you-two-are-done frost giant empire, or would you rather work on this one independently?"

"Hadn't really considered it," Maedhros says, "your choice. I was sort of expecting I'd be operating independently until you forgave me."

"For - getting captured? My error as much as yours, and I eventually even managed to forgive myself for it, forgiving you was much easier. For not wanting your memories back yet? That's on your time. If teleportation doesn't help with the being miserable in my presence we'll develop better long-distance communication. Or do you mean for having terrible taste in men? I'm not going to avoid pointing out that there's a galaxy out there and you deserve much better and could probably get it, but -

I'll forgive you that one if you forgive me for raising you children in Valinor, raising you to trust them."
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(Awww.)

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"Okay," he says. "Uh, that's not going to work as a public answer, if it comes up, and it might, the Enemy knows -"

"My public answer is that my children can do whatever the Halls they please."

"No," he says patiently, "think, it really can't be. It - puts Findekáno in a very bad position, if nothing else, and also I'm not sure Nolofinwë wouldn't outright challenge you at that point -"

"I am not sure what the point of being widely known as a Kinslayer is if people get shocked whenever you do anything wrong."

"..."

"I assume you have the steps you want me to dance."

"I do."

"While there's still a war on, but not a minute longer."

Maedhros shakes his head. "Does that mean I can safely invite you to the wedding party after all?"

"...what?"

"It's something I want. I don't know why I want it but I don't have to compromise on it so I'm not going to."

"Couldn't you have met a nice Man, they're technically fifteen now, little bit less appalling, or an orc, or something? It could be a boy orc! I can be open-minded about that! Or, if you were dead set on one of your cousins, you have cousins on your mother's side -"

"I did not actually pick him to defy you, if you were wondering."

"A little bit. He doesn't seem to have other noticeable traits."

"So you will not be attending the wedding party."

"If you were marrying an inanimate object and wanted me at the wedding party I'd be there."

"But I'm not marrying an inanimate object, so -"

"I've never been able to distinguish Findekáno from one."

"You don't really believe that I can sleep with whoever I want if you're going to radiate disdain at whoever I actually pick for that. I appreciate that you're not disgusted, but - I'm going to need that to go both ways."

"I assure you I haven't lost respect for Findekáno on learning this; that would have required I had any in the first place -"

And Maedhros slaps him. He leaps forward a bit like a startled animal and Fëanor is recently come out of accelerated perception and perhaps genuinely has slow reflexes, or in any event does not move, and then the room is suddenly ringingly silent. "I hate you for burning those ships," Maedhros says. "I don't have the memories that would give me a reason to love you anyway and I've been trying without that but - emotions are so hard to have in the first place, they're far, far too hard to actually fake. You left them to die and you have not apologized and it was ugly and cowardly and hypocritical and I am so tired of covering for you - I have not told anyone I tried to stop you, because I cannot make myself say it, what does that count for, tried - and I have been wearing a crime I tried to hold you back from around my neck from the minute I supposedly got out of Angband -"

"Are you going to feel that way if we miss a missile and it crushes their city? In Valinor they'd have been safe, we wouldn't be spread thin protecting them -"

"I never ever again want to hear you defend your choices by saying 'in Valinor they'd have been safe'."

There's a knock on the door.

"Don't come in," Fëanor says. And he looks back at Maedhros. "You needn't be in my presence again until I have indelible memory."

"Noted."
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Does that mean they're done or - not...?
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Can we go.

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She puts them in the middle of nowhere.

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"When I decide to put the memories back I'll be able to repair it, I think, I can go 'oh, yes, now that I remember my life I can't believe I ever doubted that I loved you'."

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Nod.

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"I think I did that on purpose on some level because if he was just - nice and loving and reasonable - then he wasn't my father and was definitely a projection of him."

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"I was not anticipating that he just hates Fingon in particular."

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"Hates Nolofinwë in particular. Findekáno's just Nolofinwë's son."

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"I'm really sorry."

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"I don't see that you have anything to be sorry for here. Especially not to me."

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"He's the only person you talk with subjectively 95% of the time."

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"Other people write me notes."

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"In that case I retract my apology," he says with an unsteady laugh, "everything is just fine."

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"I suppose it doesn't help if I tell you he was out of line. You either already know it or won't believe me."

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"He was out of line. But he was - mildly out of line, for the amount of painful and complicated things I'd thrown at him. Telling him to cut it out was justified. What I did wasn't."

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"...The slap or the tirade or both?"

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"Both? Though the first one could have gotten me arrested and was so, I suppose, strictly stupider."

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"It was very cathartic. I am a bit surprised by that, I always thought that it didn't really help -"

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"Varies, I think."

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"The last time we disagreed over the ships we were both armored and I was being very careful not to let it escalate like that, not at any cost -"

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"He was trying. I should have given him more space to try in."

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"If that's what trying looks like... It looked to me like it was effortless until it was impossible. Maybe that's what trying looks like when he does it."

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"He does lots of impossible things, if you lay them out for him the right way.


The first part wasn't effortless. It was not as much effort as I expected but it wasn't - I couldn't tell how he felt about it because he'd decided not to consider that while he was trying to think what I needed, that's never an effortless thing -




I'm very lucky that my father avoids people when he's really annoyed with them, his personality plus even the slightest vindictive inclination would be terrifying."
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"...Yes, I imagine it would."

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"Burning the ships was avoidant, too, not vindictive, not that it made even the smallest difference. ...it is so frustrating to understand him perfectly and still not see any way to stop him from making horribly costly -

I should have told him that when the war was over I was going to walk the Helcaraxe, a hundred thousand times, for every person in Nolofinwë's host. And then he'd have said 'well, I'll assign a hundred people to you so it doesn't take you quite as long' and then probably if I'd played it right we could all have done it, and it wouldn't really help but it'd make him stop lying to himself.

We should go back."
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"You're sure you're ready?"

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"No. I can't think what would make me ready though. Wandering around alternating between regretting hurting your impression of my father and intensely resenting that it's so hard to give him things to reflect off such that he comes off well isn't going to do it. I can't exactly go back and apologize."

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"If you're as ready as you're going to get then," she says. "- am I going to need to convey him metaphorical dance steps?"

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"The line Findekáno and I settled on, after much discussion, is that after being rescued I conveyed to him that were there anything in my power that didn't advantage the Enemy I could do to apologize, I would do it. That part's true. And then, rumor-to-be-spread-if-needed goes, he responded that I could suck his cock and I, for inscrutable Feanorian reasons and also perhaps insanity and also I had made him a very open-ended offer, accepted, and so he's been accepting in increments the repayment of the debt I owe him, and this is the extent of a sexual relationship between us. It is sufficiently shocking that no one will be able to talk about anything else, it means because of the stupid Eldarin notions surrounding all of this that Findekáno doesn't lose any standing, and I'm the one who wanted this so I'm the one who can live with whatever they say about me."

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"...Okay."

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"I find it very soothing how ridiculous you find all this. Trust me, that would have the intended effects in terms of lots of social drama and no intractable political repercussions."

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"Shall I find it ridiculous more conspicuously? If the nice sexually liberal galactics hear that story they're going to think he's a predator."

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"Really? ...why? It's not an acceptable ask but I could have ignored it..."

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"Well, I suppose it depends on how much they buy the 'perhaps insanity' part but even without it nice sexually liberal galactics often frown upon sexual favors as currency in the repayment of generic debt, at least in unfriendly contexts."

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"Noted. It might matter that it's me - no one here, hearing that story, would worry that Findekáno's taking advantage of me, just wonder what the Halls I'm trying to achieve and how I thought that'd get me there - and speculate about it, which is important, because we have to assume that at this point the real story is out there so we need something that's less damaging but more fun to talk about."

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"I hope the need doesn't arise."

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"...I feel like there must have been further comment there. But yes, so do we. Obviously."

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"If everyone is talking about it someone might expect me to have an opinion and then I have to have the nice sexually liberal galactic opinion and I like Findekáno!"

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"Opinion of Findekáno would be split pretty evenly between 'good for him', 'how many millennia is it going to take the House of Finwë to stop acting like fifty-somethings', and 'he's going to get tricked somehow just you wait'. You could maybe fit in with the second group."

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"Maybe," she sighs.

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"Or, I don't know, making a fuss about consent and concepts thereof for sex acts that can't result in marriage might be good for everyone. I am sorry to put you in this position. Ways of spinning 'I'm involved with him with my father's approval' that don't totally discredit one or both of us are a little thin on the ground."

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"Don't worry about me, I can in necessity say something like 'I don't find voyeuristic gossip a relaxing way to spend my breaks' and then everyone will shut up."

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"And if a hundred years from now some liberal galactic hears the story and is worried I can promise them that I am the kind of insane that leaves me in doubt about who I'm with but not what I'm doing, which I'm sure will reassure them tremendously."

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"Not that tremendously."

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"I'm sorry, at this point I'm really just needling you because I find your galactic opinions so deeply and profoundly reassuring. We'll be fine. We should go back and I should figure out what I'm going to tell Maglor."

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"I will expound on galactic opinions for you any time. Are you sure you shouldn't figure that out before we go back?"

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"Am I doing something galactically unforgivable if I have sex with Findekáno while I"m still at sixty-forty? Is he, if I tell him as much? How sure do I need to be?

I'm leaning towards 'I had a screaming fight with my father, no details given, we're not on speaking terms, yes I know this family needs at least one grownup but nominate someone else' but that might not actually be the best thing."
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"You're fine, he's potentially questionable but since he actually knows he's real I'll give him a pass."

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He smiles. "Shall we?"

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"All right."

And pop.
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Maglor is talking with Daeron about music. "Isn't this supposed to be your break day?" Maedhros says, and Maglor stands and hugs him and hands off the Silmaril.

"And it's been lovely! How's father?"

"Remember Turgon's wedding? It was just like that."

Maglor doesn't miss a beat. "Oh, I'll want to get home while he's still in a good mood, then."
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Loki snorts. And she puts Maglor home.

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"You staying?" he says once they land.

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"I don't think I'm going back in yet and don't have anything in particular lined up."

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"I more meant, ah, is my father angry with you or specifically with Maedhros. But go enjoy the rest of your break, I can ask him that myself."

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"I don't think he's angry at me."

She shrugs. She turns into a bird and flies around.
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Fëanor meets her when she comes back. "Did you test whether the ice melts to pure water?"

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"Not sure what kind of purity test you have in mind. Do you want a bowlful?"

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"Thank you."

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She gets him a bowlful of ice.

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And he has ten or fifteen other things if she's interested - is there a relationship between pressure and temperature? volume and either? can she do precision - blast an ice sculpture into existence? can she finely control the temperature?

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If he would like to spend an afternoon outside of acceleration doing ice experiments she's game. She can't do fine precision, though it's easier if she's breathing on things rather than shooting ice out of her palms.

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He would like that. If she goes for cold enough temperatures the ice is not pure water but contains solid carbon dioxide. He's delighted. There is a visibly reddened spot on his cheek.

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Should she -




"Do you want me to heal that?"
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He reaches out for her hand.

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Heal.

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"In the habit of fixing bumps and bruises? Nelyafinwë would not have asked you to."

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"It only takes a moment," she shrugs.

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"What's your minimum temperature, do you know?"

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"Don't have a thermometer." And she goes as cold as she feels can manage; shrinking the volume helps. "That might be my limit, whatever that is."

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"Do your limits change? Or was it all there the day you first realized you had it?" The ice is sublimating in the air. He watches it delightedly.

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"I've gotten more finesse and I'm less timid about using it because I know how far and how hard it'll hit when I apply a certain amount of oomph, now," she says, "but I don't think I'm expanding the underlying capability at all. I'm probably better at it than a standard issue frost giant because they tend to ration the blasts. I think we run down some kind of internal reserve that I can top off with healing magic."

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"That would explain why the war between frost giants and Asgardians is one," he says, "that's a pretty astonishing capability to have unarmed."

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"Giants're bigger and icier, Asgardians're better equipped and stronger."

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They run another round of ice experiments. At the end of those he glances around the iced-up field. "These don't seem exploitable, but I had a lovely afternoon. Thank you.


Do you want to talk about my son? I have no particular desire to but I also don't want to spend the next subjective six months avoiding the topic."
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Shrug. "I'm not sure what to say; I'm sure to the extent you can't guess my opinion you don't care."

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"I haven't found it particularly productive to run my personal life by committee, but 'don't care''s a bit strong and I certainly can't guess. Is he well? Did he go to New Mithrim or back to Doriath?"

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"Doriath. After sitting in the middle of nowhere for a bit finding my liberal galactic opinions soothing."

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"Should I have someone write him for whatever narrative he wants me to stick to?"

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"He told me," she sighs. "If you want it before it comes up, hopefully never."

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"I don't know how careless they're being. If I'm going to find it objectionable I should probably have it now so I can get that out of the way before I'm obliged to confirm it."

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"I find it objectionable, I don't know what you'll think of it." And she recites it.

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"Is it true?"
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"No!"

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"If you were unsure if I'd find it objectionable we've been astonishingly cautious to avoid saying anything, all these talks we've had."

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"I find the story objectionable even though it is false because I like Fingon and don't like the suggested aspersions on his character by galactic standards. I assume that's not your problem with it."

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"I don't actually know my nephew well enough to evaluate its consistency with his character. I find the entire artifice of cultural taboos and political compromises elevated to divine truth in the context of which this farce makes sense to be deeply offensive."

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"Yes, well, I wish they could just send out wedding party invitations to everyone they know and have people go 'awww', but alas, Quendi, and, separately, you."

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He raises an eyebrow. "Meaning?"

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"Meaning that while you successfully managed not to take issue with his fiancé's gender the way most of the species would, you're making an enormous issue over his identity - and you just admitted you don't even know him very well! - and so you insulted him repeatedly to Maedhros's face and it wasn't a particularly endearing character flaw as they go."

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"The reason I do not know him well is that in nearly three thousand years he has, as far as I can think, not done anything. Not published any papers, not written any epics, not invented anything, not planned anything more eventful than a party. We have had a number of conversations during which neither of us ever actually said anything. I would really prefer my children look - farther afield than Arda, now that I know there is anything else, but certainly farther afield than their cousins. Forever is a long time to be stuck with someone, or stuck regretting that you married them."

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"He isn't proposing that while I'm juggling artifacts of power I expand the soul graft thing's definition of marriage. They will be doing paperwork on a faraway planet and they can go do different paperwork if they decide to wash their hands of each other later."

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He visibly relaxes. "Oh, all right. I don't think you'd have to expand it. It's shaped by expectations, if they decide that after defeating the Enemy that'll work, they'd be correct."

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"If they're planning on expecting anything of the kind they have not shared this information with me but it would not be any of my business."

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"Is he mostly in his right mind? Do you know?"
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"...I'm not sure that's the sort of question to which 'mostly' rightly applies but I think he is making lucidly considered choices."

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"You can convey to Fingon that if he secretly has character traits and was concealing them in his interactions with me lest I pay him too much attention I'd now be delighted to know what they are."

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"...Do you have a less rude way of saying that, by any chance?"

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"He is invited for dinner."

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"Okay. On any particular date?"
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"I may actually spend your next eight-week stretch doing some collaborative work at the school of engineering here, see if I can get other people usefully up to speed on this. So it'd be your convenience, mostly. I expect he'll decline, he doesn't like me."

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"I assign some likelihood that he'll show up out of morbid curiosity."

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"That would be a character trait! I'd be so relieved."

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"Are there forms of ship reparations Nelyafinwë has in mind but hasn't mentioned? Because I've done everything he's mentioned."

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"He'd probably be ecstatic about an actual verbal apology."

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"Well, either bring New Mithrim within shouting range or prod Nolofinwë's son into coming to dinner, I think it'd go badly if I headed over there."

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"I will relay your dinner invitation next time I'm in their city."

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He nods. "I should get back to work. Breaks are so exhausting and stressful."

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"Yeah, me too. The first part, not the second so much for all that I spend them ferrying drama from place to place."

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"When I was worried because he wasn't coming home - you were taking him to Fingon's?"

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"Yes."

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"I suppose him having someone with no characteristics at all is probably better than him not having anyone."

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"That's the spirit. Sort of."

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"You could help me get in the spirit by mentioning things my nephew did to leave you with a positive impression of him."

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"He was the first person on the planet I met and handled my introduction to it very well - explained what was going on, tolerated my alarm about the existence of osanwë with excellent grace and taught me to keep private thoughts, interfaced between me and everybody who needed healing without letting me make the misstep of patting somebody on the head which I otherwise certainly would have done. He's a fine conversationalist, and I find most people boring or off-putting; responds to reasonable argument, concedes error without much prodding, knows plenty about the sorts of situations I've found myself having to navigate in a, hm, friendlier manner than his father and less perpetually exasperated way than -" She has to consult her chart for Irissë's new name. "Aredhel. When Maedhros was wandering around because I hadn't found him a place with the Dwarves yet and he wanted a way to avoid recapture, Fingon was the one who gave me a spare knife for him. He's intensely devoted to Maedhros, the entire thing was far more obvious from his end than the other."

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"Hmm mph," he says, but he's smiling slightly by the end. "Productive work, Loki."

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"Thank you."

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And eight weeks pass uninterrupted. Fëanor spends only four of them sped up but asks Caranthir to do it for the other four so Loki can talk to someone if she likes.

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That is nice of them both. What does Caranthir like to talk about?

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Economics, which he now has all her books on, and the opportunities for experiments presented by Maedhros' adorably authoritarian city - 'Quendi aren't normally organized like this, if you'd thought to wonder' - galactic trade, galactic plans generally.

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Excellent topics all. (How are Quendi normally organized?)

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Tirion was a odd blend of compromises from Cuivienen and advice from the Valar, who liked giving it and didn't always do so well. Law enforcement was by family, where families were usually loosely organized around blood and marriage but sometimes were more like guilds - if someone had a grievance with you, they took it to the leadership of your house - and economics was 'the Valar can make anything', until the city got full enough that space was scarce and not easily allocated by friendly conversation. The King's word was law but he didn't usually use it as such.

The Vanyar lived in villages; their main city was just lots of these villages very close to each other, as far as central organization went. There were complex academic and religious and communal hierarchies that made it hard until you knew what you were doing to figure out who had actual authority over a problem; they took criminal matters to the Valar directly.
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Interesting, if not particularly efficient; but of course that probably wasn't a concern. Say, does Caranthir have any economic-niches-for-Men ideas?

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Presuming that a solution to the mortality thing is in the works, are there actually any difference in average Mannish and Elvish aptitude? If there's not, then there won't be any need for economic niches, young Men can like young Elves apprentice in things until they know enough to be useful in them, and if they get impatient because that takes a hundred years, well, in Tirion the solution to that was to party hard after work hours, seems like Men'd be as good with that as Elves.

If there are substantially different average differences in aptitude maybe we'll be lucky and they point both ways, and Men can do things they're unusually good at. If Elves are strictly better at everything then while there are plenty of ways of doing economic integration Men might be happier living separately.

If Men are strictly better at everything then perhaps they'll keep us around to look pretty,
he adds as an afterthought. I suppose I shouldn't presuppose they won't be.
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Well, they definitely have worse eyes and need more sleep, Loki remarks. I am planning to have some nice galactic biologist in to look them over and figure out birth control and longevity-if-not-immortality once I get out of the universe. That and the next spell on my list is resurrection.

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The Silmarils can probably prevent mortal races from aging. They don't currently, but they have a lot of capabilities we're not using under the circumstances. Of course, something more easily replicated would be better.

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Considerably. What-all can they do if you have them all together?

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Um, in the absolute limit, anything a Vala can do should theoretically be possible. The things they do naturally are reverse and counter decay, heal - or, really, 'promote health', and make other things you're trying to do more powerful and more precise.

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They don't seem to have much of a user interface; how do you do all that with them?

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You invent other magic things that are designed to interface with them. They're just sitting there being a power source.

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Ah, gotcha.

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Father might be working on something like that right now; he's being vague about it, if so, because anything useful at this stage would be useful only with all three of them.

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Why make them in three parts to begin with?

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Could turn out that their raw power abilities are all possible to replicate with other inventions eventually. The one thing we know we cannot replicate - or, well, Father thinks so, and he doesn't say 'impossible' lightly - is their preventing the fading of the Elves outside Valinor. This way we can have them in the skies above three realms. There may also have been engineering constraints, I'm not sure.

I am very sure 'if they are separable there'll be political pressure to separate them and it'll be considered objectionable to have them all in one place to actually use' didn't cross his mind.
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Yeah, that probably only looks like a consideration in hindsight.

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His next major project with that much potential, any work he cannot ever replicate, will just not work at all for people not of his bloodline. Not having to worry that your things will be used against you in this way will be very good for his productivity and emotional health.

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Is 'bloodline' really the best way to limit that?

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Not at all. But - I assume Nelyo's scheme here ends with all of us accepting a chastisement and a sentence of exile or something from Elu, thanking him for it, and taking the Silmaril back, and my father will play along without telling Elu to go fuck himself but then he'll invent something amazing that literally only works for the House of Fëanor and that will be his way of communicating the sentiment and I can't blame him because I've been tempted to communicate it in an even more obnoxious manner.

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I'm looking, probably less forward, but still forward, to no longer needing to pretend I care what Elu thinks about anything.

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I haven't even bothered pretending.

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Well, you don't visit his kingdom on a routine basis.

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I expect if I ever set foot in Doriath's borders there would be a second Kinslaying.

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Have I mentioned I don't like that word?

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We have not actually had a conversation before.

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My question was rhetorical. I don't like that word.

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Because you don't consider killing Elves to be worse than killing Men or Dwarves or Asgardians or frost giants and it's annoying that it's privileged that way?

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It fails to capture the concept I consider relevant in both directions. No one refuses to kill orcs because that would be kinslaying. No one's willing to agree that it would not be a substantial wrong apart from my strategic value to kill me just because I'm from another planet. At least not now. I assume my honorary kin status would evaporate if I got someone really angry.

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It doesn't mean the same thing as 'murderer', no. I can't think how anyone would kill you but if they somehow managed it people wouldn't call them a Kinslayer and would call them a murderer.

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And yet, 'Kinslayer' is the one that gets bandied about as the unthinkable atrocity when it applies.

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People mostly kind of suck.

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Yep.

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I mostly don't dwell on it because I'd get sick of working day and night to save them.

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Oh, I don't have that problem, I just dwell on how much better a person it makes me than whoever I'm disapproving of.

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A snort of osanwë laughter. I don't think I can claim the moral high ground against most people who'd call me a kinslayer.

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Solution may not be universally applicable.

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If the war ends sooner because we reached Beleriand when we did, then once it's ended I think I'm going to give myself a clean slate. No one else will, but I luckily don't respect them enough to really care.

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Sounds like a plan.

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And the weeks pass uneventfully.

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And off she goes to Doriath.

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Where Maedhros and Lúthien are talking again. "Hello," they both say.

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"Hi. How are you?"

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They are well! They've been talking statecraft some more, she's introduced him to a lot of people, he likes them all very well, they like him less well but agree he seems fairly harmless and personable for a kinslayer.

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"You are indeed extremely personable."

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"I try," he says. "Lúthien, do you mind if Loki and I go for a walk, maybe by that stunning underground river? I am sure she can stop me if I suddenly start frothing with villainy, and I want to stretch my legs."

"Yes, yes," she says.
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"Froth? What does villain froth look like?" inquires Loki, starting river-ward.

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"Sssshhh, if they think you can't stop me they won't let us walk. How've you been?"

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"Quite well. Finally got around to having that economics discussion, it was lovely."

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"All of my brothers are very good company," he says fondly.

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So what happened at Turgon's wedding, anyway?

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Well.


We hadn't met his wife before the wedding party, he courted her far away from the whole family which I do not blame him for in the slightest. It was a very formal very nice party in the palace and everyone'd drunk a lot and my father was being my father and Turgon was being - very restrainedly rude, Elenwë wouldn't have picked up on it because it was all comments that could have been neutrally intended, and they just kept picking at each other and eventually my father said to Elenwë that she would probably someday regret marrying for social position and the groom attempted to throttle Tirion's crown prince and it was very dramatic.
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Oh dear. ...Your father and I did a bunch of experiments with ice and then discussed the matter and I listed some of Fingon's characteristics for him and he said Fingon was invited for dinner, which invitation I have not yet conveyed.

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You should probably at least let Fingon know that it didn't go disastrously, he must have been worried for the last few months.

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Well, I would have characterized the previous exchange as a disaster, but he calmed down. ...Seemed to help when I mentioned that galactic weddings are more paperwork than soul grafting.

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I did notice that he didn't have objections before I mentioned that.


And that wasn't a disaster. It was not much fun, and he'll probably not want to speak to me for a decade or so, but all the disaster scenarios I had in mind began with 'you're no son of mine and I'm not satisfied that you holding the Silmaril fulfills the 'Fëanáro's kin' stipulation of the Oath and you can go join New Mithrim if they'll have you but Doriath we're telling that we're not accountable for your behavior'.
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Oh dear. Yes, this was not that.

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I did not think that was likely or I wouldn't have chanced it. But not being on speaking terms with my father really truly isn't worse than I expected, and I got some satisfying yelling in first. And - the last thing he said to me was that we need not see each other until he has the indelible memory solution. That - is his way of apologizing, and I'll be the first to say that he's very bad at it, but - he was furious with me and made a point of communicating that he still considers a hard probably-unnecessary thing that will make me happy to be an important priority.

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He asked what sort of apology you'd like regarding the boats and I said you'd probably be thrilled with an actual verbal apology and he told me to either put New Mithrim within shouting distance or convince Fingon to come to dinner, is that promising?

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Maturing emotionally is the one thing my father does at a very very Quendi pace.

But it's - he is putting in a lot more effort than I expected him to bother to put in.
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D'you think Fingon will come to dinner?

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I would expect that to be a disaster. My father does not enjoy being around people who hold him in contempt and I don't think Findekáno can win his respect or will particularly desire to try. Instead I expect my father will pointedly try to evaluate whether Findekáno is interesting to him and Findekáno will eventually, unless there's company, fall back on insinuating things that will annoy my father.

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Sigh.

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He might be miscalibrated about which insinuations will bother my father, though.

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Oh?

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Father needs to believe that I - respect him, trust him, serve him out of something more than precommitments and convenience and common goals. The way to get under his skin would be to imply that for as long as Findekáno has known me I have thought of my father as an unpleasant and unlikeable complication to my goals and a barrier to my growth as a person.

Which I don't think is true, incidentally. I am pretty sure I did love him and trust him. But that's how I would hurt him if I were trying to, and you could certainly say true things that would raise it to his attention.

The way to upset anyone who isn't my father would have a lot more to do with implied relationship dynamics. As you must have picked up on by now.
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I did notice that.

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I am sure as a species we will eventually outgrow it. Quendi pace.

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I look forward to being seventeen thousand years old and it being a thing of the past.

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When I was younger I found it very satisfying that there were actions that carried all of these meanings I wanted. But there wasn't anything at stake back then and also it hadn't occurred to me that it was probably not so interesting and satisfying for everyone else.

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You know what I find useful for conveying meanings? Words.

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Then you have a limited imagination, or else it's another species difference. I would find politics very boring if everyone just communicated directly their current opinion of everyone else and then picked their shared goals and negotiated on the other ones. I'd change to a world where that happened, of course, because the point of politics is not my entertainment, but I would lose my principle source of something that I very much enjoy. And sex, unlike politics, only affects the involved parties, making it much more ethical to make it an elaborate power game! Or at least so I naively thought back before the war started.

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Oh dear. On multiple counts.

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Have I run afoul of galactic sexual ethics again?

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Little bit, maybe, although I can't guess exactly how unless for some reason you want to go into elaborate detail that isn't my business.

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Or mine to share, presumably. You could print me some books that touch on the topic, it's how I've learned lots of other cultural norms.

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My eidetic memory's not quite that good for anything that's not about physics - it's all right for books I remembered reasonably clearly or read more than once to start, although I'm sure there are discrepancies, but I didn't read anything called The Nice Sexually Liberal Galactic's Guide To Sexual Ethics, it's dribs and drabs from stuff I skimmed.

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And we're not going to adopt nice sexually liberal galactic ethics just because I find them soothing and they seem in many respects better than ours, we'll think for ourselves. I will be more careful of putting you in positions of having to publicly disapprove of things.

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Thanks.

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Lúthien's coming along nicely.

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Do tell.

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She has decent political instincts and I think at least half of her father's advisors are tractable in terms of getting them to take her seriously in less than five centuries.

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Less than five centuries, gosh.

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I'm not going to be able to bring about 'convincing them to let us off with a slap on the wrist' through 'make Lúthien the power behind the throne, convince her to do that', don't have enough time, but I can run both projects in parallel and at least feel like I'm doing right by her.

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Nod.

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I assume her complicated fate is not such that it's a mistake to make her more capable and powerful?

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Not as far as I know, just a mistake to set her up with guys her father disapproves of.

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There are so many ways she is not my type that it hadn't even occurred to me, except as an appearance worth avoiding, until Galadriel brought it up.

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It's probably not supposed to be you.

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Who else am I supposed to be introducing her to, exactly? She's met all of them a couple thousand times before.

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I don't know! It's hundreds of years off in the fated trajectory! I don't even know if anybody introduces her to whoever, and it's not specific on the whoever!

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Making Thingol less likely to overreact if or when she does get involved with someone seems like a more promising avenue, except it's not one of the first ten things I'm trying to accomplish with him.

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My plan is still the free will thing.

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I'm not even sure what it'd mean to give us free will, beyond oaths not working.

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I'm not entirely sure either but it would make it a lot less ominous to hear that somebody's fated to something. 'Oh, is she, I'll just go suggest that she not do that then. That might actually work, whereas in the absence of free will somehow it just wouldn't quite.'

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Well. Good luck. I wonder if people will miss it.

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No idea, I don't think we have anyone handy who's made the transition in either direction.

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You'd need Eru's personal intervention. Or your galaxy's magic, I suppose.

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Yep. I mean, I'm hoping my galaxy's magic can do it.

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If not, killing Melkor should still make the orcs' oaths tractable, just have to put them very far away from us.

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Yeah. - And make sure they don't have their kids swear the oath, and that the unsworn outnumber the sworn before they can move freely around...

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It's a good thing the oath doesn't include making your kids swear it, that'd be the obvious thing to do if I were evil and designing orc oaths.

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Yep.

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...shouldn't have said that. I first thought of it ten years ago and didn't. Ugh.

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...sorry. But I continue not to be working for the Enemy, so.

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Oh, good.



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I can skip the disclaimers if you'd rather.

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Hmmm? No. Your peace of mind's worth more than mine anyway, and I do not find it objectionable to hear them.

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Do you think there's a way to prevent Fingon and Fëanor from being rude to each other if they do wind up having dinner?

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If anyone else is present they won't talk about me, so that'll probably help. If New Mithrim's done anything interesting from an engineering perspective and Findekáno is willing to listen to an explanation of how it could have been done better that'll occupy my father all evening. I decided I wanted Findekáno after listening to him straighten out a stupid centuries-old honor dispute by just cheerfully expecting better of everyone in the room until they got better, but I don't know that my father respects that as a skillset.

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That's a perfectly lovely skillset!

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Sadly he's never had much success using it on our family. Our family may be immune to being shamed into greater maturity.

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Seems likely.

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They're also immune to being manipulated into it. I didn't do nothing but in hindsight all I did was delay.

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Is it naive to think I'm helping?

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With my father? Probably. With things more generally you are obviously helping. You and my father are both lovely people who probably can't have the kind of relationship in which you could help things more than very temporarily.

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Alas.

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Fortunately there are other people who can step up there, and a war on to give him good priorities.

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Yes, but in the short term I did say I'd deliver Fingon a dinner invitation. Maybe he'll just turn it down.

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If you want him to accept you can tell him to accept.

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I only want him to accept if it'd go well.

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Hard to predict, there are certainly a lot of ways it could go badly but it is not inevitable.

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Is this like last time where your standards for it going well are really low?

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My father is not going to tenderly embrace my affianced and say that he's delighted he'll be part of the family and regrets leaving him in Araman. He might stubbornly grind out something like 'obviously had we known you'd come anyway we'd have sent back the ships, I underestimated you' and Findekáno'd be suitably moved by that, from my father that's a big concession.

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Ah.

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Also if his sort of relenting on things was prompted by learning other places only have paperwork marriages that's not actually a very good hook to hang reconciliation on.

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I suppose not.

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Unless you're ending Quendi marriages, or if they dissolve when we get free will.

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They might. I don't know.

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A lot of people will be really horrified by that. It's still the right thing to do but if you had the finesse to not do it - you should probably anticipate that they'll experience it as you tampering with their soul.

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I don't know what kind of finesse I'll have available; this isn't a Tesseract problem and I don't know how much the others will like me.

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Understood. I won't blame you and can try to shield you from fallout if there's anyone here whose good opinion you'll care about after the war.

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Some people. Although I've made surprisingly few married friends. Your father, I suppose, but that would be an awkward mediation.

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Turgon will probably forgive you for tampering with his soul and dissolving his marriage if you also bring his wife back to life, which I think you're intending to do.

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If at all possible!

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If you had the finesse the thing I would most like would be for the process to be definitely intentional and probably require deliberate action at two points a year apart - makes it harder to coerce, and if you're going to be together forever your intention had better persist for a year.

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Sounds reasonable enough. Probably harder than letting people opt out of free will, though.

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Yeah, I'm sure.

Either way, unless you're sure there won't be Quendi marriages I don't want my father's approval conditional on us not having one.
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I am not sure of that. I just told him that as far as I knew you were planning on paperwork.

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If I am properly married to Findekáno then if anyone else ever forces me I die. Paperwork marriage won't do that.

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- ah.

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Can't exactly say that to my father.

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I can see why you wouldn't.

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I had a very hard time even saying it to Findekáno but it would have been very unfair to conceal one of my major reasons from him.

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Nod.

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He said that I had leave to conceal things if they were going to hurt me, they weren't going to change his mind.

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That's sweet.

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Separately we discussed whether, if I am mostly using him for emotional stability, I'll still be happy with this relationship should I ever recover emotional stability myself. He said I am likely to find something else to use him for, which didn't seem like the world's most reassuring answer, but then he started making suggestions and it was very cute.

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Awww.

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I don't think I'll make Maglor spend a day here again, then my not-going-home'd be really conspicuous. But I miss him.

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And I suppose having him as a guest would be conspicuous too.

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You could make him look like someone else, I guess.

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...if you get generic permission to have Noldo guests, sure, according to the same principle by which I obey the no-weapons policy with Lævateinn in a harmless shape but on my person; if they think they're letting in someone on a shortlist I'm not willing to sneak him by.

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I wouldn't expect you to. I don't think I can get generic permission to have Noldo guests, it's a suspiciously vague ask and Lúthien will just say 'who do you want? we can invite them!' which is honestly very reasonable.

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Yeah. Sorry.

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I approve of following rules set by people you don't agree with and don't have to listen to on general honor principles, trust me.

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Nod.

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How far out do you think you are?

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Nine years objective. Had to rip out half of the first big chunk, I'd done it wrong...

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Oh, that's plenty of time for me to teach Lúthien everything I can usefully teach her, he says delightedly. And not the longest I've had to avoid being seen anywhere near Findekáno.

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Okay.

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Are you going to be able to hold up? That's - a long time of obsessive focus -

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It is. I might take longer breaks somewhere in there. And/or ask Fingon if he is really really sure that he doesn't know of any Quendi lesbians in his host pretty please, because I assume you only exhausted the ones in Himring and didn't have them all to yourself.

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I think a greater-than-average share of people who were doing vaguely unacceptable things joined our host, but certainly not all of them. There are also sex acts between men and women that definitely don't result in marriage, we mostly discourage people from that lest they get overwhelmed and decide to take the risk but you do not seem remotely likely to.

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I don't know if I'd be able to undo any slip-ups yet, however unlikely one might be. I can control myself for another nine years rather than get anywhere near the edge of that particular risk.

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I can make quiet inquiries around here for you.

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Ooh, Doriath lesbians. If it wouldn't jeopardize anything you're doing...

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Oh, I like having lots of projects at a time. And if you're good in bed perhaps it will simplify things that I am doing.

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In fact I am!

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I have actually already heard this!

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Really? People were gossiping?

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People had been warned to be very discreet, it'd have complicated my life if I were asked to do something about you sleeping with women, but I had delivered the news and the warnings and so occasionally got feedback.

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Ha. Fair enough. ...What would you have done if someone had in fact asked you to do something about me sleeping with women?

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I would have announced that Himring was now strictly enforcing the laws on our books about homosexuality, which say that since it's such a serious matter a witness has to personally witness the whole act to have standing for an accusation.

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That's hilarious.

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I got it through back home, too. Did so without in fact taking a stance on the piece of legislation myself, and by a wide enough margin of votes that I could actually vote against it.

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Snort. Brilliant. Congratulations.

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Childish, really, but it was satisfying.

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You must know very politically savvy children.

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I knew by the time I was twenty-five or so everything my father was doing that alienated people and it was excruciating, I felt so helpless. I tried giving him advice but I wasn't yet very good at giving it and he's never been any good at taking it.

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Oh dear.

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I don't blame child Maitimo for much but I desperately want to go find Maitimo of a thousand years ago and say to him 'there is too much at stake, stop, stop everything, figure out boats and figure out weapons and fix your father you might barely have enough time'.

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Nod.

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We really did act like we had all the ages of the world.

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They complete their circuit of the river and come back. He gives her regards to convey to Findekáno.

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Will do.

And to Nolofinwëans she goes.
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And the Nolofinweans are having sailing races again, and Fingon waves at her and comes over to say hello.

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"Hi!" And she conveys Maedhros's regards, first of all.

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How did it go?

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Better than he feared, although I was rather disappointed - She summarizes.

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He nods. You were disappointed because you were thinking of my uncle as a good person who made a few notable bad mistakes instead of a deeply dysfunctional one who occasionally does good anyway, like a drunk horse might mostly walk forward.

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Well, she says, after that and some experiments with ice we talked about a bit and he wound up deciding to invite you to dinner but Maedhros thinks you'll just be rude to each other the entire time.

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Probably. I do not think very highly of him though I can in fact at need not express it.

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And he thinks you're boring, which I imagine isn't something you can contradict to best effect while he's being rude if you're being polite, and being rude back would have its own set of problems.

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Yup. Did he at least agree to manage damage if it comes out?

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Yeah. He doesn't like the story but for different reasons than I.

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I didn't expect him to like it. Why don't you?

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To my galactic sensibilities it makes you sound vaguely awful, so my options if called upon to have an opinion on the gossip would be 'misrepresent my general ethical beliefs', 'denounce you even though I like you', and 'conspicuously claim that voyeuristic gossip does not contribute to a restful break'.

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It's very much false and wouldn't be something I'd be comfortable with naturally but...if Maitimo had his mind set on that arrangement for some reason he could certainly talk me into it. What would you be denouncing me for?

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Involvement of sexual favors in the handling of unfriendly debts is frowned upon, and the story leaves room to also suspect you of preying on the mentally ill.

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You're welcome to propose a better one.

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I don't have one. This does not make me incapable of disapproving.

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Then, if it comes up, denounce me with a clean conscience, I don't mind and I prefer this narrative, politically, to ones that you'd presumably find less objectionable.

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I can probably muster a good 'ugh. Quendi'.

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I don't think I'm taking advantage of his mental state, he seems clear on what he wants.

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You're not, in reality you are quite in the clear.

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But reality will not play very well in the streets.

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Ugh. Quendi.

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We're so used to it that I am disconcerted every time it bothers you. But - yes. I suppose.

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I too suppose. I am looking forward to Arda hitting the rest of the galaxy and learning a few things. Although I suppose the Dwarves didn't do the trick.

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We don't talk about sex with them much, and this sort of thing wouldn't even make sense. I expect it'll be meeting sexually compatible peoples that'll do the trick.

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Yeah, I segued into figuring out what was up with Dwarves through my Allspeak glitch anecdote.

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Clever. And Men do it your way but everyone just thinks that's because you taught them.


I think people will have a hard time adopting sensibilities under which most of their past activities were grievously wrong.
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And who is doing wrong things according to my sensibilities?
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You haven't discussed them in depth but, at a guess, everyone in the royal family who solicits people who'd never disobey us, everyone broadly who arranges marriages, anyone who got married for security or house membership or food beside Cuivienen and everyone who married someone knowing that those were their partner's reasons...

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There's ways to circumvent power imbalances if you try but it's possible no one's trying. I did complain about arranged marriages. Marrying for those reasons is not ideal but not necessarily immoral.

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People certainly try. I doubt they try to meet galactic standards, and some probably try more than others.

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Well, I suppose in this case I can hope for enough hypocrisy that they at least cut it out going forward and teach their kids something more palatable.

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I doubt we'll end up adopting everything you believe. But yes.

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Bit much to hope for.

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And there genuinely might be species differences that are relevant to sexual ethics.

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Yeah, Lúthien claims that multiple partnerships would be relevant to more people than same-sex options, might easily be true.

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He raises an eyebrow. Historically, yes, I think so.

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Which doesn't affect what I'd consider the ideal end state but might affect prioritization.

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I expect there are fewer people desperately unhappy because they have to settle for one lover than people desperately unhappy because they can't seek partners at all. But among the Asgardians there'd also be more of the latter?

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I don't have exact statistics for either population on hand but that seems likely. And people who like both to a more evenhanded extent than I and would find it irritating to have to quash half their potentiality.

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We, ah, will probably still sleep around less than Asgardians even once there's no stigma. At a guess.

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I'm an outlier, actually. Not the most extreme one I know, but still.

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For a while I was in the delightful position of not wanting anything serious, no longer feeling guilty about not pursuing girls, and not needing to worry about getting married - and royalty, finding people was easy - and I have had a total of six partners? That's more than anyone I know of.

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Yeah, Quendi average will probably be lower - although I assume you couldn't pursue anybody openly, which may affect what counts as "easy".

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How much does this kind of thing vary species-to-species?

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Plenty. Some species manage to be more obligate monogamous and/or heterosexual than you guys have pulled off under divine command; or only one sex has multiple partners; or having children requires at least six people and casual sex is only fun if you can get together at least ten...

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He laughs. Lots of people do marry and happily stay with their partner forever, probably even the vast majority. You know Maedhros and I best of anyone here, and have a skewed sample otherwise too.

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Sure, I know that.

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If he's on bad terms with his family I don't think he can pull off any more visits.

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Yep.

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I'm no longer sufficiently annoyed with him about everything he did to have even slightly mixed feelings about that.

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Sigh.

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He raises an eyebrow.

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You've got reasons not to go openly, there's reasons he can't get generic permission for unspecified Noldo guests such that I could disguise you as someone else, I've got reasons not to just bring you in invisibly... It's frustrating.

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I could lean on Finrod, but it'd be a needless risk. And since the costs of messing up at this point mostly do not fall on me-

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Nod.

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You can tell Fëanor I'll come to dinner.

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Should I plan to be there?

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Might make certain kinds of disaster less likely. If you aren't going to be there you should check in afterwards to make sure he hasn't had me arrested or beheaded or something.

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...I'll be there.

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He threatened my father with a sword in front of the court, but I don't think he's the kind to actually go through with it.

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If he brandishes a sword at you I can just remove you from the situation - I assume this is preferable to disarming him? - without having to bet on that.

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Yes, that'd probably be the best thing to do. I'd honestly be willing to take the chance, since you have healing and it's hard to kill someone instantly, but it'd be an incident and we do not need incidents.

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We do not.

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If I were Maedhros I'd - well, I'm not, and it's not worth trying.

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Blink.

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If he asks his brothers to trade out for a visit and comes here it looks very bad. If I'm in Himring for some reason he can trade out and go home and he and his father can tolerate being in the same city for a few hours and he can come see me - everyone knows we were once close friends, that wouldn't be odd. So the thing I am tempted to do is tell my father I want to stay for a year and catch up on their engineering courses, but that I don't expect Fëanor to agree out of general broad-mindedness. And if my father agrees that this is a worthy aim and it's a shame we can't get Fëanor to be sensible, I can observe that he's invited me to dinner and it'd be easy to get myself arrested and then have the idea occur to Fëanor that one of his sons is stuck at Mithrim with the Silmaril and now there shall be an exchange.

And then I'm in Himring, can in fact take the engineering courses which we would in fact like to know about, and can see Maedhros when he comes home on breaks - and he'd be very delighted that I am however engineered the circumstances his prisoner - is that a thing galactics find problematic?

The problem with this is that when people who aren't Maedhros develop plans like this they don't work, so I am not going to try it.
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...galactics find it a little problematic when the entire thing is predicated on somebody actually being arrested, but being entertained by the scenario is not unheard of, no.

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He'd have less fun if we were pretending - the appeal, I think, is that the only restraint on his conduct is his honor. But in this at least he's utterly unimpeachable.

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I'm starting to develop the sense that the two of you have felt really deprived of anyone to talk about your relationship with or something.

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You have no idea.

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Sigyn would be amused if he were my prisoner but possibly on a different level.

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He shakes his head. I don't wish we were Asgardian but I wish we'd known it existed.

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What would just knowing about us have done?

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There'd have been - something to work off, beyond 'well this is inherently wrong so I suppose we'll just do whatever we want' or 'let's try to mitigate the damage we can be presumed to be doing one another' or - or what often comes up is 'I won't assent to doing something wrong, I will make you insist' which can be dangerous.

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- oh dear, yes.

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I don't think it's inherently more predatory than being normal, it's that having it widely agreed your conduct is already inexcusable doesn't do people any favors for doing right by one another.

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Yeah, that sounds like it would - affect the incentives a lot.

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Not just the incentives, the mindset. If you wanted to do right by someone you wouldn't be doing this, it's just sort of persistently there.

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It's too bad we can't ask Eru the reason.

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Well, maybe he'll show up when I start mucking around in the fabric of his universe and instead of killing me or something he'll choose that moment to do a dramatic reveal about all the shit he's pulled.

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What if he has a good reason? Not for everything, Morgoth is obviously beyond excusing, but for minor things like this, what if he's right?

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I can't think of a good reason, and as you point out Morgoth is evidence that he doesn't need good reasons to do things. The closest I could come would be something like 'you are fundamentally constructed in such a way that it is optimal for your soul health or something if you do thus and such' which merely prompts the question of why you'd design a species that way and then not make sure they were all actually heterosexual.

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I can't think of a good reason either. It might be he can't do anything about Morgoth, not sure. The saying there is that Morgoth interfered with the song of creation at the time of its making.

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Didn't he have to create Morgoth, though? Does Eru get a patchy vision of fate too? Is he answering to some even bigger deal who fated him to screw up in these ways?

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No. But when he created Morgoth Morgoth wasn't evil. I'm not sure. There's a telling in which he made Morgoth evil because it would all end up rebounding to his greater glory and there's a version where Morgoth just turned evil and Eru said it would rebound to his greater glory anyway.

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...and Eru's greater glory is of course the priority here however much blood and pain it's predicated on.

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If he shows up by all means scold him. Or, ah, probably don't, but -

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I will try to resist. But it will be really, really hard.

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He nods. Does my uncle have a date in mind for dinner?

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My convenience, since I'm transport, she shrugs, but if you want to come I'd like to give him a little warning.

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I do intend to come. And not get arrested but nonetheless endeavor to be sufficiently interesting that we don't waste his precious time.

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I told him you might come out of morbid curiosity and he said 'that would be a character trait, I'd be so relieved'. Which was almost funny enough to compensate for how rude it was, considering that he didn't say it to your face.

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He will certainly be rude to my face all evening, are you likely to lose your temper?

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I might get really sarcastic. Beyond that I am capable of taking my cues from you instead.

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Alright. He shakes his head. I'll go ask my father for permission.

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I shall fly around until I know whether to tell Fëanor that his dinner date is today. And she turns into a bird.

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Fingon secures permission. His father is not thrilled but agrees that with Loki present there cannot actually be a disaster.

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It's so nice how all the factions find me reasonable and assume I want all the right things and all I had to do was be reasonable and want all the right things, she remarks. I'll go talk to Fëanor.

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And kill Sauron in single combat, I highly recommend that, he says. See you.

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Fresh out of Saurons, she says, and she pops to Himring. Is Fëanor in acceleration or out?

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Out, temporarily, doing some engineering collaboration.

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When he has a moment she'd like a word. ...Meantime, do the not-so-little-anymore orcs want to go on a field trip to the converted colony? She'll transport them if they all let their parents know where they're going, they can stay overnight while the orcs will be all awake.

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They are thrilled at the idea.

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Awesome. That can be for after dinner then.

Fëanor have a moment yet?
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He does. Yes?

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Fingon would like to accept your dinner invitation. Is tonight good?

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Tonight's fine.

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Great. It's all right if I sit in, right?

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Did he ask to have security present? And yes, that's fine.

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Not in so many words.

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I'm not inclined to punish other people for my son's poor judgment in sleeping with them.

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Then I probably won't have to teleport suddenly! That will be nice.

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If he does anything actually unlawful is your solution to that also 'teleport him home'?

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I don't think I've ever actually read your entire legal code.

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Maedhros wrote it and it's short and very reasonable. Unless he is planting magical items in corners when no one's looking I don't think there'd be a problem. Well. I'm not going to prosecute decency laws.

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Good.

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I decided the Valar were wrong about marriage when I was twelve.

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Nice.

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I assumed my children were smart enough to also do so and not end up inconvenienced by it. I failed to think that through fully.

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Seeing through one's cultural peculiarities seems a tragically rare skill.

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Well, I could have tutored them in it if it'd have occurred to me they required tutoring.

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Alas.

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You are welcome to come and play bodyguard to Nolofinwë's son.

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Will do. And vice-versa, if there was any doubt, I am an equal opportunity preventer of disaster.

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Oh, but I was desperately curious what Maedhros would do if he murdered me.

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Do you want me to just ask?

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I suppose that'd be a more efficient avenue to an answer, wouldn't it? I don't think he desires to have conversations with me even with an intermediary.

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Then you may have to wait until later to find out.

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I'm not sure I should expect that desire to change.

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I don't know either.

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If Fingon turns out to be a worthwhile person I'll convey that I now think so and regret saying otherwise. But I don't expect he will.

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Sigh.

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See you at dinner, Loki.

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See you.

And she goes back to Mithrim. Tonight works for him. As does having me sit there as a disaster prevention agent.
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Lovely. I shall dress for the occasion.

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What sort of outfit does this call for? Is there an etiquette?

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There is! The question is whether to follow it or annoyingly subvert it or imply that Maedhros is affianced to me which is distinct, clothing-coding-etiquette, from me being affianced to him.

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Of course it is. Is that usually gendered or a matter of who proposed or what?

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Gendered, which is why either one would be very problematic.

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Bleah.

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Think about it in terms of all the avenues I have to subtly annoy my uncle.

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I don't want you to subtly annoy him, I want you to get along miraculously well.

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We had two thousand five hundred years to try for that miracle, and we did try. You'd think what I did for him at Alqualondë might have done it, but honestly I am glad he's never thanked me for that.

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Fëanor very profoundly wishes none of us existed. Even at his best he feels that, and it gets in the way of any meaningful familiarity.

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It would be nice if he could draw a distinction between the circumstances of your existence and you.

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It would. Though if I were some girl Maedhros brought home I expect he'd - he wouldn't bother being rude, but we still would not hit it off.

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I don't think his problem is gender-related at all. He says he decided the Valar were wrong about marriage when he was twelve.

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And they said his mother had to stay dead because his father couldn't have two wives, yes.

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Well, in the context in which he brought it up it sounded like he decided they were wrong more generally, but I do imagine that was a contributing factor.

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Maedhros always thought that if it came to his father's attention, 'I do whatever I want' might be sufficient justification and 'it's not as if I care about him' probably would be.

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Ugh.

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Oh, my father's - not the same way, not at all, but it is also true of him that he'd be tremendously reassured if I expressed actual hostility.

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I socialize with your father less.

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I think very highly of my father and trust his judgment in most matters and think he's a much better King than Fëanor but - the thing he'd object to, about the story that you felt would oblige you to denounce me, was that I would be giving Maedhros an avenue to manipulate me and if I said 'don't worry, I don't give him leave to talk' he'd relax enormously.

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...eugh.

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You're so pleasant to talk to about this because you react the way I think I might if I weren't so used to treating it all as a law of nature.

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Happy to help.

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Just don't judge them too much, it's a lot to think around.

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Yeah, not everybody has my "wow, this feature of my culture is bullshit, I will proceed to ignore it except for public purposes" talent.

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I'm ready to leave when you are.

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What outfit did you decide on?

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Crown prince of the Noldor. Very troublemaking but not in a gendered way at all. Proud of me?

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Should I be?

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He will be unable to complain that I have no personality.

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Then sure, I am proud of you.

And she brings him to Himring nice and discreetly.
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And Fëanor has dinner in the same place where two months ago he had a fight with his son. There are two additional chairs at his desk. He does raise an eyebrow when he sees Fingon.

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Loki takes a seat.

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"I invited you here because Maedhros is unwilling to explain what he sees in you but I am an optimist and think there must be something."

"Perhaps I am merely very good in bed," Fingon says, sitting down.

"I would have found that a very reassuring answer, actually."
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...Loki represses a sporfle.

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"If you have anything else going for you, though," Fëanor says after a minute.

"Is this an audition? He wants me. He'll choose me over you if you press him. I am not actually here in any particular hope of winning your approval."

"You seem to tell yourself it's unachievable when I actually think my standards are very low."
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"Well, there's how interesting he is and there's how that can be usefully communicated," remarks Loki. "You probably wouldn't fall for one of those people who has people hanging on their every word without saying anything but that doesn't mean you can't make the opposite mistake if you aren't gratifying to perform for."

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"I'm confused about your investment in this - not very confused, because obviously Maedhros wanted your help arranging secret visits and that is certainly sufficient explanation for you having been carefully exposed to bits of a story you'd get invested in, but a little confused, because it does not seem like an interesting priority."

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"I'm full to bursting with galactic sensibilities, I think they're adorable, and they seem to benefit from having somebody around who thinks they're just - plain - adorable. I have suspected since before I even rescued Maedhros and known since shortly after, the information was not planted to secure my transportational help."

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"I was coping badly with the news he'd been captured," Fingon says, "and couldn't justify rescuing him yet, though I was going to once my people were settled -"

"You'd have died."

"Probably. I am very pointedly not yelling at you for not trying."
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"I've been advised that I shouldn't have tried, but I stand by it."

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"We looked into it," Fëanor says. "We aren't Loki and wouldn't have stood a chance. I suppose it's not like you had anything more valuable to do with your life."

"You know, Loki used to respect you, it seems like a good time to pretend to be a decent human being."
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Sigh. "Today I'd settle for 'capable of rephrasing things'."

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"I think that attempting to rescue Maedhros would have been a good use of your effort," says Fëanor.

"Thank you. I think it would have also been a good use of yours."
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...this is technically what she said she'd settle for. Okay.

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"If you tell me how you were planning to do it perhaps the plan will reveal you're in possession of some character traits."

"Sadly I hadn't had much time to develop one; I only knew he was gone for a week before Loki found him. A lot of very careful music, probably. I did not expect I could get us out alive."
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Oh that would have been so fucking sad.

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"Your estimates of the value of your existence are even unkinder than mine, then."

"Have you literally never loved anyone, because otherwise this would not be a hard concept to understand-"
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"I think one can reasonably vary in how self-sacrificing one gets in response to the plight of loved ones," Loki interrupts.

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Fingon is glaring at Fëanor. "He gave you everything. All his talent, all his ambitions, that stupid fucking oath -"

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Facepalm.

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"Yes," Fëanor says. "Obviously his family matters more to him than you do, that's not interesting or surprising. What I'm confused by is that you do, in fact, matter to him. I do not think he just finds it flattering to be surrounded by people who'd throw away their lives for him."

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"It might be a nice counterweight to people who can't even comprehend why anyone would," Fingon says, "but no, I don't think so. And we both have in common that we'd choose our duties over each other. And I wouldn't have thought he'd choose you over his duties but he burned the ships, so -"

"No," Fëanor says, "he didn't."
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"...That would be why I asked you a few years ago if you could keep a secret," Loki says.

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"What happened."

"He disagreed, he disobeyed, and then he walked away. And then the Enemy attacked and there wasn't really time to dwell on it. I expected he'd told you right away. You just decided to forgive him for it?"

"Why didn't he say anything."
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"I got permission to tell you and only you and I asked you if you could keep a secret and you said anything I could tell you I could tell your father."

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"Which I will. This is strategically relevant."

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"Maedhros doesn't want it generally known."

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"That's too bad."

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Sigh.

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"I am curious," Fëanor says, "about the mindset involved in going off to tragically die alongside my son when you thought he betrayed you."

"No one deserves Angband. I'd have tried even for you."
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Maybe this at least counts as a character trait.

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By the look on Fëanor's face it seems to. "For future reference," he says, "Please don't. I am sure there is something you can do to be useful against the Enemy - one assumes you can dig ditches -"

"I've had the command of a larger host than yours for the Ice and afterwards."
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"Mmmhmm, and what have you done with them? Settled down behind the walls we built you -"

"Managed not to turn the Enemy into five vindictive irradiated ash monsters -"

"You really should have just stayed in Valinor -"

"And then Maedhros would have died with you on the beaches of Alqualondë and while I am sure he wishes that he had he's managed to avoid expressing the sentiment."
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"The vindictive irradiated ash monsters are kinda my fault."

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"They're entirely worth it," Fëanor says, "because we ended the creating of sworn orcs."

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Nod.

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"It's a bit beside the point," Fingon says. "We wanted to leave. We knew we'd be safer in Valinor and in danger here, and we were not asking for your protection. We impeded you only in the sense that being reminded of us hurt your feelings. And you left us in Valinor for it."

"Yes," Fëanor says, "I shouldn't have done that. It would have been nice if you'd stopped Galadriel giving speeches about how the only righteous path forwards was to stop me at any cost, and your father could rather have predicted that I'd have difficulty working with him while he called himself True High King of the Noldor, but if I'd thought about it I'm sure I could have come up with a way to make sure you didn't distract me from the war that didn't leave you in Valinor."




"Thank you."

Fëanor shrugs. "It wouldn't have been straightforward. You were making yourselves quite the liability."
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"Galadriel's really obnoxious," mutters Loki.

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"Most people are," Fingon says, "if you kill everyone they love. I'm sure Sauron finds you a right pain. Or, um, did."

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"...Did he love those two Balrogs or something?"

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"Huh? No, he hurt people you cared about and you made yourself accordingly obnoxious."

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"Oh, I see."

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Fingon and Fëanor go back to glaring at each other.

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Yum, dinner.
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"How long?" Fëanor says.

"1391."

"That's a while."

"Luckily you're not very observant and don't care about him very often."

"And your family?"

"Was attentive, but their attention isn't as dangerous, they don't jump to conclusions and they have never threatened to kill anyone."

"You were worried that if I found out I would threaten to kill you?"

"Before I knew him well enough I was worried you'd order Maedhros to, and he would."
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"And once you knew him better?"

"That you'd just take him and leave for the Outer Lands and leave us. Which you did, without even the knowledge of this to instigate it-"

"He can have you if he wants, I wouldn't put a continent in his way. I object to the two of you marrying."

"You don't get a vote."
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Damn straight he doesn't.

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"He is ambitious and talented and ridiculously driven and will have all the resources of the galaxy at his disposal and is probably going to rule an empire someday. Are you going to be loyally tagging along? He is going to get bored of you. Are you going to patiently wait for him to come back? He paces his life like my son and you don't and can't."

"Ah, so you're motivated by concern for my own good."

"I don't want my son tied by guilt to something he'd have left behind if he hadn't been forced to commit to it-"

"Then the Oath was a bad idea, now wasn't it?"
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Ooh burn.

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"I don't think Maedhros will outgrow me but if he does I will let him go."

"I think he already has and here you are, interfering."
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"I for one don't doubt for a second that Fingon will put Maedhros's well-being first. That doesn't mean he'll put your perspective on it first."

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"You can't un-marry if it turns out to have been a mistake."

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Loki just barely manages not to ask if he's speaking from personal experience and if so what that does to his perspective on people who shouldn't have existed in the first place.

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"No," he says, "we can't."

"So wait a thousand years."

"Maedhros doesn't want to."

"Does he have a reason?"

"He does not owe you one."

"But I don't owe it to him to pretend I approve, either."
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"I think you owe it to him to be civil," Loki tells Fëanor.

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"If I were not being civil the last exchange you witnessed between us would have ended very differently."

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"I did not say you owe it to him not to be maximally hostile."

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He turns back to Fingon. "I'm sure you are a lovely person and I think it is very unwise for you to marry my son and I have no desire to have a relationship with someone who under the circumstances would do it anyway. Insofar as you're sufficient to make him happy, please do that. When you turn out not to be, let him go. Is that all?"

"I didn't come here for your verdict on anything, so that's strictly more verdicts than I was looking for."
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"I am not at all clear on why you came here."

"You haven't faced any of us since you left us to die, I was curious if you'd be bothered by it."

"Bothered by your continued existence? If I wanted you dead, the boats would have gone back for you and then they would have sunk."
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"Ugh," mutters Loki.

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"I think that's everything I came for," Fingon says. "Thank you for raising such a lovely son, I have no idea how you scrounged up the emotional maturity to manage it."

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"Shall I take you home now?"

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"Yes, please."

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Pop.

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"That went really well," he says cheerfully.

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"If you say so."

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"Maedhros didn't burn the boats."

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"He did not."

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He sits down. "He didn't burn the boats."

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"I really wanted to tell you."

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"Why does he make everything so complicated?"

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"Maybe so he's at the greatest possible navigational advantage."

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"I am going to tell my father."

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"I know you are."

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"I understand why he wouldn't want that, but everyone deserves to know and it's relevant."

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"And I'm not going to see him for probably ten years." He sighs. "Tell him that his father apologized for the ships."

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"I will. Although first I'm taking the adopted orcs on a field trip."

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"Fun. Have you explained the orc religion to them?"

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"In passing. 'These orcs were rescued as adults so I had to do this complicated thing, it wouldn't work again, when they say 'Melkor' they actually mean this entity worshiped in my galaxy more commonly called One-Above-All'."

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"I hope all's well and everyone has a lovely time."

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"Me too."

And she goes to field trip some orcs.
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They do have a lovely time! They have orc peers and are extremely excited about meeting them, and compare stories about their lives, and worry about the war, and it's a bit awkward when Elves come up but only a bit.

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Remember kids we say 'Quendi' instead.

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Yup. Quendi. Those Quendi are very Quendi about everything, aren't they?

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Soooooo Quendi.

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Some of the orcs want to stay, can they stay?

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They should tell their parents about it, since they'd miss them, but she doesn't object.

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So some orcs are going to live with orcs from now on.

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Seems like a reasonable enough outcome.

Loki arranges to give Tyr a warning look before she leaves them there.
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Tyr generally stays away from Loki and will nod levelly at a warning look.

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And now it is the morning and she pops back to Doriath to update Maedhros on things, on the grounds that he is probably not asleep at any given time.

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This is a safe guess. He is alone.

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So they had dinner and Fingon thinks it went really well.

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Did my father apologize?

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Yes. Not very gracefully, but Fingon counted it. Also your father announced that you didn't burn the boats and Fingon is going to tell his father.

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He puts his head in his hands. All right.

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Fingon asked why you make things so complicated and I suggested it was so you'd have the greatest possible navigational advantage.

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Sometimes. Sometimes I just have extremely limited information and the more directions I've committed myself in the more things I'll have at need. Sometimes I'm just stuck and everyone looks like Thauron and I don't want to cope.

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Everything's coming along nicely here.

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That's good.

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I can definitely have everything I need done in a decade, so that when the war ends everyone can part ways peacefully and if the continent seems likely to be triggered to collapse I can get them out with minimal fuss. It will not be an enjoyable decade but I will manage.

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Thank you.

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Thank you. This is my job; you just got it thrown at you.

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What's my job, then?

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The frost giants, I suppose! You can thank me for that, if I'm any help with it.

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Will do.

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I am not going to decline a therapy planet but I expect by the time I get out of Doriath I will no longer have issues with being touched because I will be so desperate for it.

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...if you want another hug...

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Not really. But thank you.

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You're welcome.

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I finished the books. If you happen to have others.

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I can get you another batch.

She goes and gets him another stack.
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Thank you.

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You're welcome.

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Bad mood?

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Not especially, really.

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You don't have to drop by here every break.

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I know.

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Are you still irritated with my father?

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Some, yes. He's so brilliant and he just - doesn't channel it right, I could brush it off more easily if I thought he just didn't have the raw ability...

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He is capable of anything he puts his mind to.


I don't need him to treat me well. It simplifies my life but only a little bit.
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Shrug. Turned out I didn't need my mother to love me. That doesn't mean it wouldn't have been nice or that it's not a fucking tragedy she couldn't pull it off.

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I'm sorry.

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I'm not bringing this up because I'm fishing for pity, I'm pointing out what it sounds like when you say it. To other people you are another person.

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My father loves me. He just needs a lot from me for us to have a relationship where we enjoy being in each others' presence.

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Yes, our situations are not identical, I'm aware.

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And even though it's irrational right now I'm mostly annoyed with him because the current situation means I'm stuck here for ten years. That's not an unreasonable sacrifice and not really his fault.

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Nod.

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Himring was mine and it was built so I could be sane there and I guess I got used to it.

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Anything I can solve by redecorating in here?

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No, Menegroth's sufficiently pretty. Thanks, though.

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You're welcome.

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There were a lot of doors that only I knew about so if I needed to have a solid wall between me and people I could do it in an instant. There weren't any things that had unpleasant associations attached. It was a bit obsessive. Obviously I need to cope in places that I didn't personally build to be tolerable.

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I didn't realize.

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That was rather the point.

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Well, congratulations, then.

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But I miss it and I can't go back and I am going to be childishly annoyed with my father over that for a while.

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Nod.

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He sits there silently, staring off past her.

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See you later.

And she goes home and tells the parents of the orcs who decided to move that she will convey letters if they have them ready next time she comes out and she goes back into acceleration.
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And is unbothered. Fëanor keeps the conversations very technical, or very focused on Loki's life.

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That's okay with her.

She comes out. She bops messages to their destinations and makes a point of checking in particularly with the unsworn orcs, how are you settling in, good good.

She goes to Doriath.
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Finrod and Galadriel are in Doriath again, and Maedhros and Lúthien are eating a meal with them. It is less awkward than might have been expected; everyone is smiling, at least.

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Hooray, a smiling meal! Can Loki have some?

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Everyone present expresses delight to see her.

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Lovely.

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They are apparently discussing whether travel between Doriath and Valinor might be possible after the war so people can see their sundered relatives.

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That sounds like it would be lovely.

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The Valar will probably be opposed. But after the war, who knows. Perhaps someone they're not mad at can petition them.

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And there are people meeting that description, presumably.

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Lúthien giggles. "I'll try."

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"On what grounds are the Valar most likely to object?"

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"Security, presumably," Finrod says. "Ungoliant, which Morgoth summoned, took them by surprise. They don't want Valinor to be very accessible."

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"...I could teleport there right now if I wanted to. But that smacks of the sort of argument that sounds like gibberish to Valar..."

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"The mountains and the surrounding enchantments protect against many threats. The existence of threats they don't protect against is not really a reason to weaken them."

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"Teleportation's going to be more widely accessible postwar, though."

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Finrod looks anxiously at Maedhros. "Your family's not planning to -"

"Go back to Valinor? No. That would cause needless trouble."
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"I'm probably going to have to stop by, fetch people out of the Halls."

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"...reembody them? You can do that?"

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"I can't now. But as long as I'm outside the universe picking up war-ending cosmic power..."

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"You think you'll be able to reembody the dead? That requires a lot of delicacy and if done wrong can do them psychological harm." Finrod is frowning.

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"Well, I won't do it if I don't think I can improve on 'being dead' by doing so."

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"If they're better off being alive they already get reembodied."

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"If Mandos thinks they are better off being alive."

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"And he has a lot more individual information, even if you have some differences with him."

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"One of my differences with him is how he comes by that information, but yes, he does have it."

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"I have many dead loved ones I would rejoice to see alive again," he says. "I'm just confident that will happen eventually and would grieve to see it done wrongly."

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"I don't yet know how much finesse I'll have. It is loosely possible I'll come to some amicable arrangement with Mandos and won't feel obliged to rescue anyone from him while I'm wielding my galactic trinkets, even, I've never met the guy, maybe it's just that most of the things I hear sound horrible."

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An awkward silence. "With all due respect," he says, "the house of Fëanor's opinions and experiences are not representative of anyone else's."

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"Feel entirely free to relate an alternative perspective on Mandos's custody of dead people. I've gotten as far as 'I told Vár to go there and not to Morgoth when she died' and that's not a high bar."

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"Most people are reembodied quickly and are cheered, more powerful, more capable, a little wiser for the experience but not strongly altered by it. People who were in the Enemy's custody are hard because many of them refuse reembodiment, and Mandos rightly will not oblige them. People who killed others or who forced others to take their life in self-defense have a long period of waiting in the Halls, but I don't think you want to bring them all back either. At least, I hope not."

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"Not carelessly. Except the orcs, I'm planning to fix their oath problem."

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"If that can be done then I think Mandos will be overjoyed."

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"I hope you're right."

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Finrod is glaring at Maedhros again. "Trying to work against Mandos on this is very unwise."

"Am I being glared at as proxy for my father?" Maedhros says. "I'd see the dead of Alqualondë reembodied, yes, and subject to whatever terms are decided on for the rest of my people, yes."
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"I have come to my conclusions on my own, but thank you for your concern about my, what, intellectual integrity, Finrod."

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"Your sources," he says.

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"Would you like to contradict them on whether Mandos reads the entire mental history of dead people?"

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"He does do that. You object?"

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"Strenuously. I freaked out when I discovered I was leaking thoughts by osanwë and that only covers the present and came with a defense mechanism once someone told me about it."

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"Perhaps it is a species difference. It would be intolerable for frost giants but affects none of them."

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"I admit to being very poorly educated on the subject of frost giants, but I think there are rather generic ethical problems to being completely and involuntarily inspected down to the most private thought and it's worse done by a being who gets to decide if you live or die depending on whether he likes what he sees."

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"I understand how you'd see it that way."

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"Thank you."

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The meal concludes and Finrod and Lúthien are comparing composition notes and Galadriel is watching Maedhros and he stands and tells Lúthien he is going for another walk with Loki.

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Is he. Okay. Walk walk.

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Sorry to volunteer you.

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It's all right. How are you?

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Eight weeks farther along on what I'm trying to do. You?

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Six months, otherwise same.

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Alas that diplomacy can't be magically accelerated. Well, there's Lúthien's trick, but I hesitate to let her use it on me more than sparingly.

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I don't let her at all, but I have my hangups and less reason to compromise them.

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I am trying to steamroller all my hangups, them being themselves consequences of mind control. The person I was before Angband wouldn't have minded at all; liking people isn't how I set my goals anyway so liking Lúthien would just make me better at working with her.

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That's sensible.

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And I think the song goes both ways.

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It does? Really?

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Hard to be certain, but yes. Both because that's the default way songs work and because Lúthien likes everyone and not all of them are very likable.

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I think she likes me and she hasn't sung to me, but I suppose I might just be likeable.

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She's vaguely distraught whenever you don't seem to like her. I think she looks up to you.

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It's my princessiness.

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It's that you matter. I respect that in her, honestly.

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Respect that she cares about the opinions of people who matter?

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Respect that the thing she wants and looks up to is 'ability to effect my goals in the world'. There are a surprising number of people who don't get that.

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Some people are a little short on goals.

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There are a lot of people who, if they like yours and believe in you, will do anything to help you realize them. That's always pretty nice.

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I've found lots of strategic cooperation here. Less of the personal loyalty kind Quendi monarchs wind up with, but I'm not sure I'd even want it.

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Really? It's pretty nice. And compatible with people stopping you from wrongdoing and so forth.

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That's not my problem; I actually don't worry very much about needing to be stopped from wrongdoing. It's... I don't have quite your memory for people's names and traits, so I'd find it lopsided? I don't mind being in charge of things but I'd mind being at the helm of that level of, I want to say 'fanaticism', without a deeply personal understanding of who I was commanding it from. I could manage maybe five or ten person-accessories well and from there it would get intractable and discomfiting, not that I'd consider it priority one to disband them if I needed them for something.

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Ah. That makes sense. Yes, Father's like that. People being utterly reliable is great, but he doesn't have the energy to value the weight of someone making their life your instrument.

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And yet people go around saying things like 'my life is my King's'...

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I am the intermediary, usually, though really all of us are. It is very very meaningful to me, more than instrumentally, and with the necklace my capacity for knowing people well seems entirely limitless.

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That does sound like an improvement.

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And right now Father finds it stabilizing and treasures it much more than he ordinarily would, he's very very dependent on our peoples' belief in him and his cause, so it's less lopsided. If he'd have gotten the crown in peacetime there are lots of reasons he'd have given it up but that's one of them.

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Nod.

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I do sort of regret that I won't be able to have that kind of role after the war.

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Maybe one day. We'll see what happens.

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I will eventually end up in charge of somewhere. Just - not these people, and they are my first love and have sacrificed tremendously at my request -

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Mm. Well, I can not-rule-Asgard and we can commiserate, does that help?

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I suppose. And I get to keep Findekáno.

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Yep.

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We both sort of figured that at some point one or the other of our parents would just suggest that we solve this problem by swearing never to do it again.

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I do think you find our lives more depressing than we found them.

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Probably, which I suppose is all to the good.

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It certainly amuses me.

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Good.

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You said with respect to your magic. What a difference it made that there was one person who knew.

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So much. I like being able to be that person for you.

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What did Fingon say after the dinner, other than that it went well?

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He said, 'He didn't burn the boats'. Twice. Then the thing about you making things complicated, then confirmed he'd tell his father, and I said 'I know you are', and he said 'I understand why he wouldn't want that, but everyone deserves to know and it's relevant', and then he said he wasn't going to see you for ten years, and to tell you that your father apologized for the ships. And then we briefly discussed the field trip for the adopted orcs.

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Thanks.
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You're welcome.

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I can think of so many ways to meet him in the next ten years and none of them are worth it and I want to do them anyway.

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I can't get indignant that he didn't learn it from me when I was resolved not to tell him. But still. Not being able to talk about it is hard.

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If you wanted to write him a letter, I could sit with you while you did it, give it straight into his hand...

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I'll have one for you next time.

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Sure.

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You sure everything is okay? You've seemed a little subdued these last few times.

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Shrug. I'm a perpetual malcontent with things to malcontent about.

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Ones I don't know about?

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No.

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I occasionally worry you're going to burn out on this.

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Do I seem likely to?

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Five subjective decades of very fiddly technical work while the Enemy's quiet and we don't know where he'll hit from next? Most people would. You are very not most people but that's why I only occasionally worry.

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I do assume people will let me know if I'm needed to deal with Enmity.

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There won't be family drama unless you want us to have some for entertainment purposes. We are usually collectively pretty good at priorities.

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I can find other things to occupy myself. I have done. Orc field trips and sparring and flying around and swimming and picking up new music.

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His smile is only slightly envious. Oh, good.

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What I actually miss is having an enormous library. So many of the books I didn't print out eidetically are in verse and that's really hard to appreciate through Allspeak.

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You should ask my father to compose you some Asgardian poetry, he'd do quite well at it.

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Not a bad idea! Or I could just get him to teach me a local language.

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Yes, that'd also do it.

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I've never properly learned one before. Eidetic memory makes it far more appealing.

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It goes very quickly in general. Father's good at learning them and good at teaching how to learn them.

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Rote memorization is tedious, but with that magically handled it's just the parts that sound fun.

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Eidetic memory was a good idea, we should have done that one long ago.

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I sometimes have good ideas.

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And sometimes have silly ones that work out quite well.

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What are you thinking of there?

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Sneaking into Angband. Remains a bad idea, but I think my family would eventually have attacked Doriath or have lost their capacity to do anything at all. Going off to fight Thauron.

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- why would your family have attacked Doriath?

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...the Oath?

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But what does that have to do with sneaking into Angband?

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They have me, and can get the Silmaril back in a less horrible way.

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Oh, you're imagining a whole series of events where they still nuke Angband and Doriath still has a Silmaril even if you were in there, I'd lost track of the hypothetical.

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I think the Enemy's play was always to give Doriath a Silmaril if he needed a distraction. There are a lot of ways it could have happened.

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It's not a bad tactic.

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No. And we left ourselves wide open to it, could've gotten most of the benefits of the Oath with a wording that swore to see them taken out of the grip of the Enemy or anyone who'd use them towards his ends...

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Yep.

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I hate it. I am sure that there will be occasions in the future where Father uses them to - replace a planet's dying sun, something absurd like that - and I'll have to start being fond of the damn things again but right now it's just a chain around my neck. And the Enemy wore them in his crown and having it on all the time isn't good for my sanity.

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Do you have the flexibility to do something else with it occasionally?

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As far as the Oath's concerned, what matters is that it's mine; I could technically leave it here, if I'm satisfied that it's my Silmaril I'm leaving here. In political terms I don't think people would think of it as my Silmaril if I just left it lying around.

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Yeah, probably not. If you want me to hold it for you while I'm visiting I'd do that?

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He takes it off and hands it to her.

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She pockets it. Better?

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Slightly. It's shining through her pocket. He shakes his head. Thank you.

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She frowns at it and tries to turn it invisible.

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Nothing happens.

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Well, it really doesn't want to be invisible. She tries turning her pocket more opaque.

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That does make it shine through less brightly. It's fine, he says, really. I'm quite used to it.

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At this point I'm half curious why it's insisting on being so thoroughly shiny and how hard it is to work around. She layers on some more opacity.

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Dimmer. Still visible. I am not the person to ask.

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Maybe I'll ask your dad.

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He would be the person to ask. I am glad you two still get along.

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It affects our topic selection but yeah, we get along.

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I want to apologize but it would not make things better.

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If you say so.

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The problem is that while my father's unwillingness to make insincere apologies makes him a lot of needless enemies, my willingness to make insincere apologies annoys him just as much and he does not take any of mine seriously.

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Oh dear.

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And saying 'I apologize for telling you that I don't love you and don't remember ever having done so' will not make things better.

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Wouldn't think it would.

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I'd be happy to hear suggestions if you have any.

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Sometimes I can get people to take wishes as apologies. In this case I guess it'd be 'I wish I could remember, I'm sure that if I remembered thus and such and then I'd never have said something like that'.

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I do very much wish that I remembered my life, and I am eager to put the memories back once I can trust them.

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I don't know how he'd take it, though, that's not a very tailored suggestion.

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I have never actually said anything like that to him before, so I don't know how he'll react to me trying to fix it. I've wanted to say things like that but the stakes were always too high. But I genuinely trusted him that he wouldn't make me worse off for saying things - rightly, i guess, I will give him that - so nothing was at stake but our relationship and I genuinely don't remember it.

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Nod.

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Which probably means - something? The Enemy wouldn't take things if he didn't think I'd be worse off without them.

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I can't speculate why you're missing what you're missing, I don't even know what it is beyond that it includes most of your filial relationship.

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Random-seeming chunks of the centuries, but stuff pertaining to my father is missing more than anything else. Oddly, logistical minutia of city planning is still there, and I was able to use that.

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If - how unhelpful is it if I remark on what I'd do if I were evil and could delete memories?

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Go ahead.

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I probably would have done it the other way around, left you with at least most of your ability to draw on the emotional resources of your family but sharply reduced ability to be useful, especially if I thought I could strike a balance so you were just useful enough that it wouldn't be obvious you were a net drain to you or anybody who'd tell you.

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He flinches. So - careless? Or part of some plan that we disrupted before fruition? Or is it likely that I am making important mistakes that people close to me wouldn't notice?

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I haven't seen you make any. Your gaps sound like a completely different strategy that may have been interrupted. - Should I not have said that, I was not at all sure it was a good idea -

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No, I'm very glad you did - it also helps me believe you're not the enemy, if there are obvious ways you could do better if you were -

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Primary argument in favor. I just don't like making you twitch.

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It is intellectually tremendously useful to me to have a picture of what kind of enemy you'd be, it makes me more confident that you aren't. I do have a strong panic reaction around you and everyone else who can hurt me and it does get stronger when you say things like that but this tradeoff is worth it to me.

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Okay.

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Perhaps sometime we can do it all at once so I can brace myself. But still. I asked you to tell me and I'm glad that you did. I think your proposed strategy would have worked well. They trust me. If I say to do things they do them, they wouldn't ask themselves if I was still reliable, not if I was still good enough at what I do to pretend to be -

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I don't actually spend my time thinking about how I'd hurt you, I don't have an essay to hand you on it...

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When you're only half a person and which half you are was picked by your enemies it is really useful to have some hypotheses about what they were trying to achieve.

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Yeah. I just don't know that 'do it all at once' is workable.

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Please continue raising things when you think of them.

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Okay.

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Do you think that knowing what I know I should accept this world's version of my memories back?

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I don't know what your model of the Enemy's mind control is. I probably wouldn't expect that your cooperation was necessary to put the memories back - or implant fictions - if he wanted them there.

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No. But I'll notice little things are off, and I'll go 'ah, that's because I'm reintegrating them from this magic necklace'. I don't think he can do fully convincing fictions or he'd be able to accomplish a lot more, so there must be something I'd be able to notice - I wish I could talk to others -

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Want me to go ask Thuringwethil?

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Do you think she'd tell you the truth?

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She's shown willing to swear that she hasn't lied over the course of a conversation after the conversation. I wouldn't trust her as far as I could throw her otherwise, Loki shrugs. But it'd be an assertion within the thing you're trying to determine if it's a hallucination or not, perhaps it would be totally useless to you, perhaps it should be.

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And I remember her. Another shudder, more moderated. I think I prefer having more information to not having it, even though I am going to be discounting it, but I don't care strongly enough that you should use your break on that if it's not interesting to you.

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Thuringwethil's kind of interesting and I haven't seen her in a while. I don't mind.

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Okay. Leave the Silmaril, please.

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Of course. She hands it over.

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Thanks.

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It's yours. Back in a bit.

Pop to - a ways off from Thuringwethil's, in case this seemed like a good place to lay an ambush in case she visited and Thuringwethil owed Morgoth an evil favor.
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The area doesn't look much different.

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Pop in, then.

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Silence for a minute, then the air shivers, then she's there. With the wings. "Hey."

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"Hi, how are you?"

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"Weathering things. You killed all my scavenger bats."

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"...That hadn't even occurred to me, sorry."

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"I think I will forgive the person with the Angband-melting bombs."

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"Thanks."

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"Congratulations."

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"Thanks."

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"I had a male bio-form in case you ever got sufficiently sexually frustrated but then the bats all died and there's nothing to feed off here and I lost it."

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"...I'm flattered. But that is in fact not what I'm here for. And if it were girls are okay for one time apiece, it'd be round two you'd be out of luck with."

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"What if I do different girls? That's easier - or, like, which parts make it count as a man, I could probably do combos - what in fact are you here for?"

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"Different girls might actually do the trick, second question's a little much considering I am not in fact currently planning to fuck you, and I am in fact here to ask if there's anything worth knowing about how to tell one is in a hallucination via Morgoth and/or Thauron mind control."

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"Hmm. Yeah. The Elves have that inconvenient total-bodily-control thing that's harder to spoof than senses or osanwë - one thing that works, though it wouldn't work for you, is that if you just have your lungs stop processing oxygen then unless he's paying really close attention he won't notice, and you will continue to be able to function despite knowing yourself not to be breathing. I don't think they ever found a way around that besides 'rip out the memory, try again'."

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"Huh. Thanks."

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"This is your pet Elf?"

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"What a charming characterization."

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"Sauron told me what he offered for him. Sounds like two people are very attached to the pet Elf."

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"I rescued him and I will not be fully satisfied until he is fully rescued. The circumstances of his pre-rescue environment make it a special challenge."

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"I know what Angband was like."

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"Mm-hm."

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"Other questions?"

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"That's the only one that I brought. Can I get one of those haven't-lied oaths?"

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"I swear that nothing I've said to you today has been untrue."

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"Thanks."

...

"The wings are... interesting."

And pop.
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She stretches them contentedly and goes invisible again.

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And is Maedhros where Loki left him?

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He is. The Silmaril is clutched in his hands and he is staring into space.

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Hey. She did in fact have and swear to a thing - And she repeats the thing about breathing.

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I am not going to believe that but okay.

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Worth a try. She plops down next to him.

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Worth telling other people, so they have something. Though I guess he could just take that memory.

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That's what she said was standard procedure if anyone figured it out. I'll spread it around, anyway.

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Did you ask her why she didn't - do - anything? How you could just know that and be like 'well. interesting' -

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...haven't asked. Seems out of keeping of the tone of the conversations somehow and I don't have anything much that I'd do with the answer. My guess is that she aligns to power and interesting-things-happening, that this is why she's making nice with me now and why she cooperated with him before.

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Yeah, I wasn't expecting the answer to be enlightening. Well.

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Shrug.

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Angband doesn't exist anymore and never will again. Or else I'm still there. Flip a coin. Fun, isn't it?

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On the bright side. Imagine if you'd run into Thauron before you had ice powers.

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Would've been bad. Although I might have been able to talk my way out of a fight - I did the first time I encountered him - and then just not gone back. I only did go back because I did have ice powers.

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Did Thuringwethil have anything to say on whether it'd be complicated to insert convincing false memories?

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No, but I didn't phrase the question to elicit same. I can go back if you like.

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I mean, she'll say something and I won't believe her. I'm interested, but won't react too usefully -

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Shrug. She might have a coherent explanation for why things work the way she says they do? I don't know. I can save it for next time I talk to her.

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By all means.


I don't think we're really people to the Maiar.
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What do you mean?

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I mean - some of them do more of the 'shepherd' thing and some more the 'collector' thing, but none of them even tried to be whatever you try to be towards Men.

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...well, there's Huan, although he's doing yet a third thing.

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Yes, Huan avoids that particular trap. By being a dog. Bit extreme, but I suppose I will take it.

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I'm intermittently very curious about the sort of high-powered sapient being who goes, 'I guess I'll be a dog'. And then proceeds to be a dog.

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I asked Tyelcormo once. The way he explained it was that the Maiar could easily use all of their cognitive processes just on senses, and be utterly aware of the world but less - conscious, in some ways - than we are. Most people find that unappealing and so most Maiar are mostly cognitive and a little bit experiential. But Huan likes it the other way, and - when he has occasion to think about it, doesn't think that him running things for our side would be better, and it would have to be a lot better to justify completely unwriting how he functions in the world...

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I guess that explains it.

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I don't think him running things for our side would be better. He's smarter, sure, and faster, but the Maiar have a lot of limitations.

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Systematically? Like what?

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Not systematically, it's generally different ones - they are not very adaptive. They are very slow. They can't tend to read people very well. They cope badly with new or surprising situations.

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Nod.

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Huan's probably unusually good at those things but that's because he's a dog and if he were instead trying to be a deity I expect he'd run right into the pitfalls the others do.

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Pity. Well, he was enormously useful when I fought Thauron, both times.

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Yep. And he's very good for Tyelcormo.

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Nod.

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The Maiar always drove Father batty. That much power, such broadly useless things done with it. One of the strongest Maiar drives the Sun across the sky every day.

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That's useful... but usually suns aren't supposed to require sapient maintenance at all... because they're supposed to be balls of plasma that burn for billions of years and have their spherical planets orbit them for sensible gravitational reasons...

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He laughs. Our world is run by idiot gods patching their own past idiotic mistakes with resources they really really should not have.

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It's really exasperating!

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How nice would the world be if you were a Vala?

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Depends, do I have to run everything through committee?

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We will stipulate that you do not, but Melkor still exists.

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Have I created anything yet? This might be a very boring universe if I know he's going to terrorize anybody I wake up.

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As I understand it they spent the first few million years having proxy battles with lightning and lava.

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Oh, and I'm being a Vala, not Eru, so I don't get to customize the population, do I. Maybe I'd try to customize it indirectly. Make sure the place was categorically and instantly unsurvivable for anything that couldn't put up with Morgoth's crap reasonably well. Populate that, Eru.

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Dwarves! All Dwarves! I approve.

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Dwarves are great!

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No mind control.

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It's not a panacea but it'd be a fucking improvement. I may also flatter myself to think that if I had a few million years to fuck around with physics I might have noticed you can do low-maintenance suns and spherical planets, but... I think it anyway.

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He snorts. I bet you would have. It can get that way by accident, according to your books! It cannot be that hard to notice!

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'Hey Morgoth, let's set a few nonillion kilos of hydrogen on fire, doesn't that sound fun. Oh look at that.'

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Perhaps Eru will be so impressed with you for saving the world he'll reward you with one of your own, seems the kind of thing he'd do.

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Ooh.

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And after a while he says, We should head back in.

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Long way or short way?

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Long way? I don't get many walks.

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Sure.

Walk walk.
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Thank you. Good seeing you.

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You're welcome.

And home she goes.
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Where everything is uneventfully humming along.

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She hangs out with some Men - they write, but she feels like it's about time they had more face time - and then she goes back in the hole.

And would Fëanor like to teach her a language?
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He would. Quenya's prettiest, though I might be biased. We're still running the state on Mannish here though at this point I do not care what Elu wants and people've been letting some Quenya slip in. There's Thindarin poetry, though if it's poetry you're going for I know a lot more of it in Quenya.

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Verse is the thing I'm most unable to appreciate through Allspeak. It's possible but it requires very awkward attention-juggling.

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And he delightedly starts teaching her Quenya.

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It's so pretty!

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He is really really pleased that she thinks so, and has a lot of energy for teaching.

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And it turns out languages really are lots of fun if you have an eidetic memory.

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And Quenya poetry contains some strikingly beautiful stuff. Also lots of hymns to the Valar but both of them are equally bored by those.

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Well. They're of sociological interest.

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He can sing her some hymns to the Valar if she'd like.

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Sure.

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He does. They are more ethereal-power than sycophantic adoration, at least.

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And they're very musically interesting and such lovely verse.

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When the eight weeks are almost up - Maitimo?

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- what about him?

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How is he.

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Holding up.

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He does not inquire further.

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And when she pops out of the hole, to Doriath she goes.

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He's reading in his room. Hello.

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Hi. How are you doing?

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Some of Thingol's courtiers are quite charming and some of them are a good challenge.

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I've never actually seen him consult with anybody on anything, but maybe he just does it all by osanwë.

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That's generally how it's done, yes. Gives the impression of omniscience, means you don't need everyone crowded around, also vaguely useful if you don't want it obvious who actually has sway.

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Does it give you any trouble figuring out who holds sway?

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I've been here for almost two years and am only now confident I'm talking to everyone I need to be talking to. Of course, usually you have some diplomatic contact with a society before you get chained up in their basement.

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Well, at least you've got it sussed out now. I'm really curious what the conversation looked like when they were deciding whether I could be an exception to their policy on free-willed things.

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Regrettably I have no idea. They seem to mostly like you well enough.

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I hadn't even been a princess at Lúthien yet at that stage.

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Lúthien's fondness for you hasn't really advanced your standing politically in general; she's not taken seriously enough.

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I was mostly joking anyway. Although she has been very indirectly helpful in producing wordings of things that her parents will like, I meant that when I mentioned it awhile ago.

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She's smart enough. If I had a century I think I could end up having her running things, and that this would be a major improvement for both her and her people, but I don't have a century.

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I'd offer to stall except for all the reasons I will not do that.

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He snorts. Please do not stall.

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Shan't. Do you want me to hold your Silmaril again?

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He hands it to her, smiling. My father's Silmaril. I want nothing to do with the damn things and am just a sufficiently trusted instrument of his will.

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She puts it in her very opaque pocket. If you prefer. - He asked after you. I told him you were holding up, I didn't know what else to say...

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I am sort of tempted to ask him to help me engineer a way I can see Findekáno in the next ten years without anyone finding out, because he is good at problem solving and in general making people your co-conspirators is a good way to win them over. But it could backfire rather horribly.

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I could pull it out if he asks something more specific like whether there's anything he could do to help you.

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That's not a question I'd expect him to ask.

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Shrug.

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How's everyone else?

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She runs through what she knows about the statuses of relevant everyone-elses.

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And no tremors or trouble in a while. Makes me a bit nervous.

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Me too, but not actionably.

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My letters for them include all sorts of contingencies to prepare for but I can think of at least as many things we'd be defenseless against with no conceivable preparation possible.

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Nod.

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If he does something that makes the whole world uninhabitable I'm also unsure whether we should try teleporting the cities back to Valinor or just dying here.

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Wouldn't you more or less wind up in Valinor anyway if you died here? Well, the Quendi would.

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Question is whether they could get angry enough to kick you out of Valinor if you try to protect us by taking us in.

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...Could take a lot of the underlying earth and try to make an outlying island? Would this only apply to Doomed people or could I at least save the Men and the Dwarves and the orcs and the Thindarin populations?

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Thindar you should be able to save. Men, Dwarves, orcs, maybe ask Ulmo but my guess is that they'd be executed on the spot.

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...seriously? For being teleported there?

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Mortals are very very Not Allowed in Valinor. A mountain will slide down on top of them. At a guess.

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I'm still technically mortal, Ulmo indicated I'd be fine if I showed up.

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Then perhaps I'm too cynical. You could ask Ulmo the general question but the reaction will be much worse if you do it after having been denied permission than if you do it without knowing that it might be forbidden.

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If the default is 'they're all executed on the spot'... Ulmo might just not know that should I fail to invent immortality in a timely manner I'll die of old age.

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I don't know. I really don't know. The Valar'd be divided, it could shake out very differently than that, if you leave the Noldor here it might be safer for everyone else...

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You'd think Aulë would argue for his Dwarves...

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I am sure he would. And Nienna'd argue for mercy generally, it's sort of her attribute, and Men aren't supposed to go extinct they're in the plan maybe that'd sway the Valar - unless there are Men elsewhere we don't know about - they killed a bunch of us after Alqualondë but they didn't just execute us all on the spot and that was much more provocation, maybe they're easier to sway internally towards mercy than I realize...

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One werewolf went missing once; I think I otherwise collected them all.

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If they all awakened on this continent.

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Good point; Ulmo said the southern continent isn't as uninhabited as it looks. Still haven't heard of anybody running into a native, but yeah.

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Ten thousand people on a continent is not many; they'd be easy to miss. You could tell Celebrimbor to go survey the whole world, but it might take him a while.

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I had some swifts looking around to get a map of the place but they weren't looking at every square mile individually.

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I think the best option if staying here is certain death is to transplant Doriath to somewhere climate-matched and uninhabited - he sends a mental map of Valinor, shades a few possibilities - Melian may have her own opinions, of course - to take the Men and orcs and Dwarves to the edges of Aulë's lands and immediately go petition him directly, and to leave everyone explicitly prohibited from returning.

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I'll consider that my default, then.

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My mother can help you petition Aulë, and would do so.

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How do I find her? Or for that matter Aulë.

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Aulë's lands are here, my mother might have gone back to her father's, which would be here - I don't think she'd still live in our family home, and there's no way to check - hmm. Do you have leave from Ulmo to visit Valinor and return here? If so, that'd be something worth scouting out in advance, actually.

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He didn't specify anything about that. Is that likely to also be a thing that's not safe to ask?

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No, that's fine, it's not like if the answer is 'no' you might end up in a situation of needing to do it anyway and hoping for the leniency of not having known it was forbidden.

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Yeah, it might just look like I'm trying to find an exploit. Which I am.

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The Valar aren't omniscient. You might be able to visit Tirion unnoticed. I have no idea.

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Maybe there's some innocuous reason to be in Valinor temporarily so it's not so obvious that I'm nipping in to lay groundwork for importing cities. I want to compliment Aulë on Dwarves? I'd open with that anyway if I were asking him for a favor, all, 'congratulations on Dwarves, they're awesome'.

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I don't know if Dwarves are a touchy subject among the other Valar. Hmm. You could take Lúthien to visit her family there?

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Is she allowed to leave Doriath? What if it's not up to her parents' safety standards in Valinor?

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It's Valinor. You'd have to ask them, obviously, but I can't imagine they'd worry Valinor's not safe enough.

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I was making a joke. I do that sometimes.

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I have spent so much time around Thingol that satire of his paranoia is indistinguishable from the real thing.

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Sorry.

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Hmm? Don't be, I quite like everyone in Doriath. I have to, it makes me more effective.

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Anyway, sounds like the order of operations would be 'ask Lúthien how to ask her parents if they'd let her go if Ulmo said she could, ask Ulmo if she can, bring her, talk to your mom and maybe Aulë while we're there'?"

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My mother will give you a good sense of whether and how to talk to Aulë.

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What do I even tell her. Maitimo sent me only he's going by Maedhros now it's a long story hi I'm an alien.

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Telvo's dead, she had foresight about that so she probably already knows it, everyone else is alive.

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Nod.

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She's a very sensible person, you won't have trouble working with her.

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That's good. Any sensitive subjects I should watch out for?

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Literally all possible subjects are going to be sensitive, under the circumstances.

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I know. I mean "is the subject of her husband really awkward", stuff like that.

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My parents' separation was very very ugly and awful, yes.

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Nod.

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She was trying to petition the Valar to let us leave. Aulë told her it was the only path that didn't end in disaster and Father was sick of begging at their feet for rights he felt they had no right to deny us, and petitioning the Valar is slow - this was before the Darkening - when he was exiled she did not come, and they did not speak again until she begged him to leave her some of the children, to which he said 'they're not children, and they're not mine to distribute as favors' which was true and fair, and then that if she really loved us she'd be at his side which was not.

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Well. It was true in a sense that I personally find compelling; if she'd come he'd have been less reckless and despairing and together she and I could have talked him down on the ships, if she'd come we'd have been safer, if she'd come things would be better. And I personally can't imagine loving someone and having the avenue to make things better and protect them and not coming. But I don't think she felt like she could keep on doing it all the way through to our preordained and inevitable deaths, and it's not like my father is an easy person.

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...so having someone with free will show up on her doorstep and announce that there has been plot derail might be. Interesting.

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Yes. She is utterly certain that we are all going to die, and die badly, and I imagine it'll be a bit of a shock to learn there's hope.

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Is there anyone else I should meet besides her - independently, that is, I'll follow her lead if she wants to introduce me to someone?

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In terms of evaluating whether there's a way to get people into Valinor? Uh, Lúthien will be visiting Olwë, Elu's brother, he might be helpful on the front of saying things to make Doriath more amenable to relocation.

He will think the main reason not to let us back into Valinor is that the Valar would not kill us slowly enough. But otherwise you'll probably get along, he's a good King.
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...I will try to overlook this minor, trivial flaw of his.

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Is the impulse to revenge just totally foreign to you?

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Not culturally. Just personally. - The emotional foundation's there, I can use it to do things like work faster or hit harder. But I'm more dangerous scared than angry, in the relevant sense; I can think straight through anger alone; and when I'm thinking straight I want people who've done bad things stopped, not hurt, not if that's not important to stopping them - maybe deterring third parties but not for its own sake.

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And you know us well enough that torturing us doesn't sound like just deterrence even if there were a good argument it'd discourage future misbehavior.

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Yup.

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Olwë might in fact think that I personally have done my time, if you tell him enough information.

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Should I?

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We're not even trying on leave for the exiled to return, and anyway the Doom says specifically that we'll remain in Mandos even should all those we wronged entreat the Valar to lighten their sentence, so I doubt a situation will arise where it will help. If one does, obviously you may share anything that helps you achieve your goals.

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That wasn't obvious. But thank you.

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I want the Enemy dead. If any of this is real at all you have leave to use me towards that end however needed.

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...thank you.

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That really should have been clear already.

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I would probably have guessed in a sufficiently dire circumstance but it didn't actually cross my mind in so many words before.

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It's true of all our people, too, though I'd rather you ask things of them through us because it's we who have the relevant trust. We are here to win.

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Nod.

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And he shows her how to recognize his mother, and places where she might be found, and more about the Valar, until everything that can usefully be planned for without Thingol's leave has been.

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I'll go find Lúthien.

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Lúthien finds her, once alerted that Loki's looking for her. "Hey! What's up?"

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"Maedhros had the idea that - if Ulmo says it's all right, I haven't asked yet, and if your parents agree - that I could take you for a visit to Valinor."

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"Oooooh. And ask them for help, or feel out feasibility of doing so, or just say hello?"

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"Seems like a valid Valinor activity to at least sound them out on it but you do also have family there."

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"I did until recently. I don't know if any of them survived being murdered for their property."

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"Olwë's alive."

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"I'd love to meet him."

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"Well, what's the best way to ask your parents?"

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"...probably for me to run up to my father and say 'father, father, can I go to Valinor?'"

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"I don't have confirmation from Ulmo that I can bring people in and out, yet," Loki says.

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"He'll understand that."

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"All right then."

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Thingol does in fact understand that, and is willing to have Lúthien visit Alqualondë if Ulmo approves. If she will come straight back, which she all but swears to do.

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"I'll go ask Ulmo, then!"

...She has an eidetic memory, does she actually need Turgon or just the song?
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The song doesn't do anything. Turgon also doesn't do anything. "Sorry," he shrugs, "can only catch his attention if he's so inclined."

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"How often is he so inclined?"

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"Maybe half the times I've tried? Círdan can probably get him three times in four. To be fair to them, disinclined might mean 'currently in a really important debate up on Taniquetil', not 'off duty for the year'."

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"Fair enough. Thanks anyway."

She puts him back, reports delay to Lúthien and Maedhros.
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They are not bothered. Eight weeks from now is perfectly fine.

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Quendi.

She does other errands, popping things to and fro, taking orcs to visit their adoptive parents for a bit and then back, sees if anybody else wants to spar, flies -

- goes back in the hole.
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Fëanor does not ask any questions for which 'will you help your son hook up with his boyfriend' would be an appropriate answer. He does teach her the other dialects of Quenya, and recite a great deal of poetry in those too.

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It's nice. Makes the time less samey.

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And the ground does not shake and five weeks in there's a letter from Turgon saying that Ulmo approved the visit.

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Oh, nice. She didn't even ask Turgon to make a separate trip, she'll have to thank him.

She stays in for her full time, but when she pops out she brings this letter to Doriath.
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And Thingol worries rather obsessively and Lúthien smiles at him very pleadingly and it's Valinor so safety is not really mentioned.

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"How long do you think you'll want to stay?" Loki asks her.

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"Your schedule is the one it will be difficult to work around. I could stay a few days, or eight weeks, I don't think I'd feel comfortable going only for a few hours, it could be an inconvenient time for my uncle the King..."

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"I don't mind staying a few days, I could use a longer break in a new setting, and if you want to stay eight weeks I'm happy to pick you up."

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"Why don't I tell my father eight weeks but I'll let you know if I want to return early."

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"Okay."

Hey Maedhros, Ulmo got back to me eventually through Turgon and says visiting's fine.
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Good luck. Be careful.

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Will do.

"Say when," she tells Lúthien.
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"Let's go!"

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And Loki puts them in Alqualondë.

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It's beautiful. Jaw-droppingly, breathtakingly, beautiful. Lúthien stands there stunned for several minutes and she grew up in Menegroth. There are white cliffs that dwindle down to rolling white sand, and there are houses and docks there, and everything is more vividly colored than in Beleriand.

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Ooh, Loki's so glad she has more colors now. "Oh wow," she breathes.

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And they cautiously approach the city. A few people come out to greet them after a while, warily.

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"Hello," Loki says.

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"Hello. You are-"

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"I'm Loki, and this is Lúthien. Ulmo said it would be all right if we visited."

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Wary nods. "Olwë would like to meet his niece."

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"Where is he?"

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They gesture back towards the city. "We've just told him that you've arrived."

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"Thank you." Pause. To Lúthien: "Is this mutually intelligible with your language? That only just occurred to me."

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"Not quite," she says, "but we've been osanwë-ing a bit, we'll make up the gaps - I suppose we had thousands of years to diverge..."

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"I can translate if you like for a bit, but it's so gorgeous here I'd never forgive myself if I didn't fly around."

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"No," she says, "go, they're a bit nervous around you anyway and we can definitely communicate enough."

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"Okay. See you in a bit."

And she turns into a bird and flies to where she may expect Nerdanel. But not too fast. It's so painfully pretty here and she does want to take in the scenery. ...This sentiment is at least 10% Valian time fuckery but she's on a break, she will allow a little bit of time fuckery as long as it doesn't keep her here more than a week.
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The scenery is patiently commanding of her attention. Maedhros thought that his mother would likeliest be living with her father among the Aulendil, in the foothills north of Tirion.

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She does at least travel in a straight line rather than meandering around over the loveliness.

And when she thinks she's within stranger's osanwë distance of where Nerdanel's supposed to be:

Excuse me, Nerdanel?
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Mmm? Ah, hello?

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Hello. I am extremely confusing and don't know where to start, please interrupt me to ask questions if you want the information in a different order than I'm presenting it. My name's Loki. I'm from another universe, landed here by accident, have been mucking around in the war overseas. Your family's alive except Ambarto. Maitimo suggested I come talk to you about some things.

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Do the Valar know you're here?

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Yeah, Ulmo gave me permission to bring Olwë's niece over for a visit and back. Maitimo's idea.

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Why don't you come in.

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Where are you, and would it in any respect be unwise for me to be seen?

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My workshop, and that depends very much on what you're doing here and what you're doing there. But there's no one in here.

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Can you osanwë me where your workshop is?

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She sends a mental image, but it's ground-level.

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Loki can still orient on it to teleport. She pops in, shapeshifts in almost the same moment.

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The woman in the room - red-haired, plain faced for an Elf, holding a chisel - barely glances up, though she does set the chisel down. Hello.

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Hi, nice to meet you. Questions or should I launch straight into why Maitimo thought I should talk to you?

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I think I'd be happiest if you started with the situation over there - where are they, are they in good health, does the war look hopeless, did they get there in time to protect any of the people over there, have they committed any more atrocities -

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Loki pulls out her map. They're mostly here, although Maitimo's here and Caranthir's here to babysit Silmarils to distribute their protective effect. Everyone is in excellent physical health; Maitimo's not in ideal mental condition because he was captured for a time but I rescued him a few years back and he's functional at this point. The war is not hopeless. We leveled Angband, and in a few years more I'll have a spell that will let me get back to my universe and access all kinds of more sophisticated resources than the one we reinvented to accomplish that. There are lots of people native to the continent alive and well and they've been doing very well on the not committing atrocities thing.

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Oh, good, I'm so proud of them, two whole years with no unspeakable crimes, they must be working so hard at it, she says. Osanwë does not usually quaver,

How did Ambarto die?
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I don't know. It was before I arrived and no one's mentioned.

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In the dreams I've had since he was born my husband set him on fire.

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...I don't know how he died, I'm sorry.

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I like to think that someone would have stopped him, if he did -



How can I help you?

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Leveling Angband did not kill the Enemy. Assuming he doesn't manage to kill me before I get out of the universe, I should be able to finish the job, but in the meantime he's got various tricks to pull to make life unpleasant. Maitimo thought I should ask your advice on petitioning Aulë for allowing me to teleport in refugee non-Noldor Elves, Dwarves, Men, and some orcs I managed to get out from under their oaths of service if it should transpire that Valinor is the only habitable place on the planet at some point. We're assuming there's no way anybody Doomed gets back in.

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If Valinor is the only habitable place on the planet then taking all the Elves who aren't Doomed will not be a problem. Dwarves - can you save the Ents, that'd mean Yavanna'd be in favor, and hobbits, so we have Estë - I think I could bring Estë around anyway, on the orcs...Men are very much not supposed to be in Valinor but in a sufficiently dire state of emergency I think it could be approved.

I am not at all sure you should ask in advance.
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I haven't met any hobbits or Ents, but if anyone can tell me where to find some I can teleport them too.

I'm not sure I should ask in advance either; that's why I haven't. Maitimo may or may not have been too cynical when he speculated that if I brought in anyone who wasn't supposed to be here they'd all be executed on the spot.
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If you brought back the exiles, yes, I do think they'd - they wouldn't call it an execution, just a relocation to the Halls of Mandos. Ordinarily Men would be put to death for arriving in Valinor, even by accident, but I don't think they'll do that if it ends the species.

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I'm not certain I have them all. I have all except maybe one missing one, of those who appeared on Beleriand, but it's possible there are some I didn't find on another continent.

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And I think the rules are intended for - Men mariners arriving on these shores, not the rest of the world being rendered uninhabitable - I suppose you're in any event only doing this if death is the only alternative, so it's worth chancing...

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There might also be some nightmare scenario where I can keep them alive there but only if I do nothing but heal with my every waking hour and then I can't finish my spell, get out of the universe, and get my hands on artifacts of ridiculous power to end the war.

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I don't know enough about the population there, how it's distributed, what capabilities you have, what capabilities they have - at a guess, if you bring back people who aren't the exiles, and we go at once to Aulë and I talk to some people who can go at once to every other Vala we stand a chance with, we can at least drag out the debate over whether anything should be done about them for a few decades.

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Oh, a few decades should be long enough for me to win the war and find everybody however many planets they'd like to colonize.

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Then bring them. Ah - if it comes to that - the rest of the world is inhabitable only if you heal with every waking moment, everyone Valinor can shelter is here - will you then leave the exiles to die and work on your spell?

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Maybe. Or be more profligate with distributing the ability to do and reverse engineer my sorcery, maybe. Next spell on my priority list is resurrection.

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Mandos is not going to let you bring them back.

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Then I may or may not pause to have an argument with him about it.

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Please do not overestimate yourself.

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This would only be relevant after I have successfully killed one Vala to begin with.

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They could always melt the planet, send everyone's souls to Eru, and tell him things went off the rails and they were forced to begin again.

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I have seriously considered confiscating this entire planet from Eru. He takes deeply inadequate care of his toys.

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I do not know anything about you but if you are worried about where to put civilians then you are not qualified to pick a fight with Mandos or with Eru.

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I'm worried about where to put them now. Once I can teleport out of this universe I will be quite spoiled for venues, and ways to pick up more powers.

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I am done talking people back from the edge of cliffs because I'm the only person present who can see they cannot fly.
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I may fail. If I am stuck on this stupid cylindrical planet because there's something fundamentally wrong with my spell, and can't kill anything scarier than Sauron, and can't evacuate anyone farther than the next continent, and wind up dying in the process of trying to protect the Men I have more-or-less adopted, or attract too much Eru attention before I can escape or when I'm not expecting to do so and am summarily executed, well, then I'll be dead and that will suck. It seems unrewarding to dwell on that option. I will compromise on my aims when I have to and not sooner.

She turns into a bird. And I can. Too. Fly.
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I will talk to people who'd be positioned to petition the Valar if any refugees show up.
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Thanks. Loki changes back. Any other questions or comments?

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Picking a fight with Mandos remains a really bad idea. I can see why you get along with my children and their father and I wish them all well.

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I'll pass that on.

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Maitimo was captured? By the Enemy?

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Yes.

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I got him out.

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Thank you.


I know a lot of people who - but all of them were centuries ago, I'm not sure anything's the same.
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I don't know either.

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And it's not as if they could go and talk with him even if he'd benefit from that.

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I could take letters.

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Not sure anyone involved would want to write things. I can ask.

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Nod. I'll probably be in Valinor for a couple more days, taking a break from spellcraft, and might be back in eight weeks if Lúthien decides she wants to stay that long and be picked up.

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Lovely. You should visit Lórien while you're here, it's soothing to the soul and a good place for breaks from most kinds of craft, though I don't know of spellcraft.

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It's basically like really technical writing. Where is Lórien?

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Mental map of Valinor.

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Thanks.

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My pleasure. How did you level Angband?

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Fëanor invented retroactive eidetic memory good enough for me to produce the contents of physics books I read back home and from there they reinvented an extremely destructive variety of bomb, which I then teleported above the fortress.

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That was a tremendous good whatever happens from there. No more orcs outside your rescuees.

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There's a handful, some of them were establishing outposts and villages before that, but so, so many fewer.

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Congratulations.

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Thank you.

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I don't suppose you have Ulmo's generalized permission to take people on trips.

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Nothing so broad.

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Good luck. We'll have in place what we can here.

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Thank you. Should I pop back here before I leave in case you've got letters or will they definitely take longer than that?

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It'd take a few days even to reach people and I doubt they'd have thoughts to jot down on the spot.

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Okay. Eight weeks, ish, then.

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Are there resources here it would be worth trying to acquire for you?

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Nothing leaps to mind. Material scarcity isn't a limiting factor on my speed or effectiveness at this time, it's probably worth avoiding me having particularly extended conversations with any Valar if I can avoid it...

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Definitely. If there are answers you need from them we can get them without it being apparent you asked - I don't know if news from home would be good or bad for anyone's productivity -

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I don't either, honestly. I can hold onto it and dispense it if asked once people know that I was here?

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Arafinwë - Findaráto and Artanis' father - has been appointed King of the Noldor, they're pretending the exiles don't exist. He is trying very tentatively to make amends on their behalf and restore diplomatic relations with the Teleri, which is going very slowly. He's also trying to move the Valar to act in Endorë but that's even more hopeless. Fëanáro's mother has been released from the Halls of Mandos and is in the service of Vairë, the Vala of fate, as I understand it. The Sun and Moon were our work. I hope they're helping.

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The Sun and Moon are very useful.

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That's about everything.

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Thank you very much.

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I very much doubt the children want to hear that I love them but I do and you can pass it on if appropriate.

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Nod.

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And she picks up the chisel she'd set down and turns back around.

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And Loki turns back into a bird and is in the sky before she hits the ground.

She makes for Lórien, may as well.
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The trees are supernaturally tall and supernaturally healthy; it is as pretty as everywhere in Valinor; otherwise there is nothing remarkable about it.

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Well, she's already done the one actively productive thing she can do here.

She flies around looking at more pretty stuff, relaxing - it is really relaxing, she's not sure she'd be able to get any work done here but she's not trying to do that.

She waits until it's been a couple days and then goes back to Alqualondë.
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Lúthien wants to stay eight weeks.

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Okay, I'll come pick you up then. Have a lovely time!

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It's not lovely at all. But I think I can help a little.

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Well, have a helpful time, then.

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People died of grief, you know, after the people who died in the fighting - we knew that was possible, but they didn't, they'd been born to Valinor, how would they know...

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I didn't know that.

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It happens often to those who lose a child, sometimes to those who lose a partner - and every person in this city lost parents, lost children - we stop being able to mediate our body, and it hurts and it's slow and it's a terrible death.

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Hopefully you can be of some comfort.

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I am trying.

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See you in eight weeks.

And Loki goes back to Maedhros.
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How was it?

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Going back in eight weeks to collect Lúthien and possibly letters your mother's going to assemble for me. She's going to get in touch with people who can petition various Valar and says it will help if I can also save hobbits and Ents, but I don't know where those are. She's pessimistic about my long term goals.

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Which ones?

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The ones that involve dead people.

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I suppose it might be better to teleport the alive people out before attempting that, in case Mandos turns out to be more than you can chew or Eru intervenes.

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Yeah, possibly.

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Is she well?

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In her workshop, getting work done - don't know her well enough to evaluate her much past that. Seemed okay but possibly only in the sense that you do.

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He nods. And odds that Valinor'd be a haven of last resort?

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Worth a try if the alternative's certain death or, say, 'me doing nothing but heal all day', especially if I can find Ents and hobbits.

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I am surprised that my father hasn't asked twenty people to give you oaths and get healing, you healing all day is clearly an insane solution.

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It hasn't come up yet and the circumstances of Celebrimbor's oath were a little alarming, but it's probably not a bad idea to have more backups in case I die or am desperately needed for spell purposes a dozen places at once. I did give him the healing spell.

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The reason I haven't done it is because I don't want to ask my people for oaths, yes, but that's not Father's reason so i wonder what is. There are better ways to do it than that one - you can ask in private, you can give people a week to give you an answer...

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I could give them eight. Announce that I'll distribute the spell next time I come out of the hole to anyone who'll swear accordingly and wants it.

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That seems safely not coercive.

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Wouldn't guarantee nobody would be elbowing each other about it behind the scenes, but on my part yes.

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If I were there -


He sighs.

I wish I were a Vala and could manage a hundred threads of attention.
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That'd be nice, wouldn't it.

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When I'm in a place I know working with people I know it's almost like it's true. I can give orders fast enough and fine-grained enough to have a thousand projects in the works at once. When I'm cut off from it I feel weirdly contained.

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That sounds unpleasant.

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I don't want to live my life around 'always have a hundred thousand people answering to me', though, so I'd better get used to it.

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I wonder if you could rewire the attentional capacity to work on anything else or if it's people and only people and forever people for you.

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My father put a great deal of energy and effort into trying to make it engineering - I was the first, you know, he had hopes - to no avail.

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Guess you're just naturally specialized.

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There are more than the two things in the world. I could probably do magic embroidery, it'd just be very hard to rule the world with magic embroidery.

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Sounds prohibitively difficult to me, impressive though it is.

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Now you've got me tempted.

I think my grandmother might have been able to extend her talents if she'd been thinking strategically - and why would she have? they'd just arrived in Aman - to mirrored tapestries so that all of the ones hanging in different locations showed the same thing, and then perhaps to ones that were responsive to voice or touch, so you could have instantaneous communication. Which would only
really be interesting if it was instantaneous across star-distances but I think it might be, the palantiri are.
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How do you know palantiri are?

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First thing Father wanted to know when he got your science books. He thought they should be and he did some tests with Celebrimbor as soon as Celebrimbor could teleport to the edge of the world, with sufficiently precise time-measuring devices that they both seemed to think they'd have noticed a delay if there were one.

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Ah. That's nifty, then, instantaneous communication is a little hard to come by in many parts of the galaxy. People have it but don't like to distribute the strategic advantage.

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Palantiri are not trivial but once we figure out a way to mass-produce magic items they will be.

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How long do they take to make as-is?

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About eighty days of work by someone with osanwë and a few years' training.

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So if you wanted lots of them someone could figure out how to make them by sorcery, maybe, but it wouldn't improve the speed if you only wanted another two or three.

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We reproduce too slowly to be a star-system-spanning society in our own right, I don't know how many we'd need.

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Depends on how integrated you wind up with other Arda races and whoever else you meet, I guess.

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I get the impression our preferences are idiosyncratic enough that we're unlikely to attract billions of residents, though I'd of course be delighted if we did.

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You could definitely support a tourist industry solely by building places pretty enough for you to live in.

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Did you enjoy Valinor?

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It was gorgeous. Your mother recommended Lórien, but except for its very large trees it didn't stand out compared to the rest of the place. It was really relaxing. I wouldn't want to live there, the time effect is not conducive to getting anything done.

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You have to tell Lórien what to do, he says, amused. The trees obey vague instructions framed as 'this place would be more excellent if only..." They can do all sorts of absurd things.

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Oh, I didn't know it was customizable! Absurd things like what?

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These leaves all tasted like toffee - everything in Valinor is edible to Elves, probably also edible to you - the trees would support my weight while I ran around, the river would get to the temperature of a hot tub and have some bubbling jets to relax my muscles, it smelled like fresh-baked cookies, the leaves tasted like said cookies, the leaves would adopt a format that let me use them for scheduling and planning, I could carve stone with this stick...

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That's hilarious. When I go back for Lúthien maybe I'll play with it.

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It's very relaxing. Valinor - it really would be paradise, for the right kind of person.

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It's nice for breaks. I feel very breaked.

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Excellent. Is that my cue to let you get back to work?

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Wasn't hinting. I told your mother I'd tell everyone she wishes them well.

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Mmhm.

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See you later.

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And gets basically the same reaction from everyone.

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Ah-huh. What a family. Well, hers isn't much better.

There's a limited supply of eidetic necklaces, so she can't make her offer as broad as she'd like, but: she's willing to duplicate Celebrimbor's arrangement for anyone who's not under competing oath and wants to be backup sorcerer in case she dies or something, and healer/teleporter in the meantime.
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Lots of people want that. Amrod, who's handling logistics, says they'll make more necklaces.

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How long do those take? If there could be enough she'd like the recipients of the spells to be broadly distributed. Dwarves. Nolofinwëans. Etcetera. So if one city goes down not everybody who can pick up where she left off is lost.

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Amrod purses his lips and looks faintly torn. "I have no idea how to do the 'magically have ten thousand people report to work on this tomorrow morning' trick, but once I've rounded up the people they can each do a necklace in eight weeks."

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"Ten thousand would be an awful lot. It'd be hard to arrange them all so I was close enough to osanwë them in one batch. Fewer than that should do the trick."

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"All right. Can definitely have a few hundred.


If the aim is to have a city that can carry on if one is destroyed, having you and my father and Curufinwë all in the same one is not very good distribution of resources."
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"The two of them do not qualify for receipt of sorcery, but you have a more general point. If Fëanor or I move, though, we have nobody to talk to most of the time we're under acceleration. Maybe Curufinwë should babysit the Silmaril more of the time."

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"If you die and my father's alive we are teaching him sorcery, it'd be idiocy to do otherwise. Yes, he also might grab the Silmaril.

Curufinwë's been spending as much time as he can with the Dwarves and I'm sure would be happy to live there full time."
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"I realize you will certainly teach him if I die. He doesn't qualify to receive it now."

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"I understood your terms. We can make more people spend time in acceleration for both of you."

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"If that seems like a good idea, I can set up somewhere else when I'm working."

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"We like having you here and don't want to be rid of you, trust me, but honestly I think that if we lost both him and you that's it, we lose. No one else is going to be able to reverse-engineer everything fast enough to understand how it works and start building with it, and we're postulating he has an attack that can destroy cities."

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"It's possible that some non-Doomed person could evacuate other non-Doomed people to Valinor, which is another reason to distribute the alphabet more."

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"Celebrimbor was planning to teleport and not go with, I think. But yes, I'm not saying everyone else is extraneous, I'm saying that one of the two of you is probably essential."

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"Reasonable. I suppose I could move to Doriath."

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"I hesitated to bring it up. We'd miss you."

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"I'd visit. The question is who'd keep me company there, Maedhros can't run his projects from triple speed and Lúthien wouldn't like it and they won't let other Noldor in and I'm not sure who among them have things they can do in acceleration who might be a good conversationalist."

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"There are many of them, I'm sure they have someone. Maedhros might know?"

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"He would. D'you suppose I should inquire now or in eight weeks?"

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"It'll make a lot of people nervous that you're leaving us for Doriath, I'd rather have the time to get them adjusted. Suppose you could check in with him now so he'd have the eight weeks to recruit if needed?"

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"Yeah, good plan."

So back to Doriath she goes.
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He's talking with people, but finds an excuse to break it off after a few minutes. "I bet Loki only needs me for a second."

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"Thanks. Won't be a moment." Considering moving here, would anybody find triple acceleration palatable enough to keep me company?

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No one I've met, but I've been meeting politicians. I could probably find you something.

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The idea is that it's probably not actually a good idea to have me and Fëanor in one place in case something that wipes out cities comes along.

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I should have thought of that. Will you commend whoever did for me? I will find you someone.

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Will do. Thanks. "Sorry to interrupt," she says aloud, and she waves to the people he was chatting with and pops back to pass on the commendation.

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Amrod smiles faintly. "Thanks. So I can spread to people that you're moving?"

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"That's the plan. If Maedhros finds me someone it turns out I can't get along with or something I'll have to come up with alternate arrangements." Sigh. "I wasn't getting a lot of interaction in with the Men anymore anyway but still."

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"We'll look after them for you."

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"Thanks. Please do not warp their distinctly non-Quendi culture too much."

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"I'm working from Maedhros' playbook and he has eighty six different records of meetings where someone expressed unease over various Mannish depravities and he said eighty six variants on 'it would be very rude of me to suggest I cared more than you about defeating the Enemy.'"

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"Well, in addition to defeating the Enemy I care about my adopted species and I will check on them and I do not wish to find that any of them have been called depraved to their faces."

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"You do very well at not treating them like children. We're also not children and don't need a refresher in getting along with neighbors we've had for fourteen years."

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"Fair enough. Sorry."

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He smiles vaguely at her. "It's fine. I don't think we've talked since then, and I can't be annoyed when people don't assume I'm capable by family reputation if I'm going to keep wishing they didn't assume I'm -

It's fine."
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"...anyway, thank you for the idea and the logistics support. See you later."

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He nods.

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And she goes back to work.

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Eight quiet weeks.

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And down to Doriath to see how move-in-able it is.

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Maedhros found some people who he thinks she'll find perfectly tolerable who are willing to do it for a few weeks here and there, no one who wants to do it full time. Well, Galadriel offered, he says. I don't think that'd work.

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Probably not. I can at least try it and move back if it's intolerable.

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The Nolofinweans would have more people you'd get along with with appropriate projects.

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That's also an option. I don't have to commit to spending years here to try it for a few weeks.

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I think here's a good first place to try.

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Am I in the same guest room I've stayed in before, I don't know whether to expect it to still be open.

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I can ask someone. He does. It is not, but there's one nearby.

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So Loki makes sure she can find it, and transports her small number of physical belongings into it and her larger number of illusory belongings as well, and then goes to pick up Lúthien.

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"Hey," Lúthien says. "Thank you for that. It was productive."

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"You're welcome. Do you want to see any other parts of Valinor before we go? I heard nice things about Lórien after I completely failed to appreciate its qualities when I flew by."

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"Sure."

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So Loki puts them in Lórien and explains its features.

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Lúthien is delighted and asks it to look like Menegroth, which it does, and then like a snowstorm, which it does.

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Ooh, a snowstorm! Ice sculpture time!

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They can go ice skating! Lúthien hasn't been since before the war when Beleriand was safer.

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Skating's great.

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Lórien melts back to usual specifications when they get tired.

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"That was fun."

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"It was. I can't think what else to try. I feel like I'm not properly taking advantage."

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"We could steal some of Maedhros's ideas but I feel disappointed in myself for not thinking of anything."

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"Oh, Maedhros has mentioned foods he misses from Tirion, I should ask the leaves to taste like those and bring them home." She collects some.

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"Ooh, that's a good idea. There's some Asgardian spices I haven't encountered here, maybe those would be popular." Leaf collecting!

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Once they have bundles of leaves Lúthien asks "...do they even work outside Lórien or do they revert to leaves."

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"...I guess we'll find out."

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"Ready to go?"

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"In a minute, actually, I said I'd take some letters for someone."

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"Ah, okay."

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"Be right back."

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I am.

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Letters?

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I didn't tell them it was Maitimo. Wasn't sure if he'd want me to. Just that we'd had people captured and gotten out and if they had any -

She hands her the letters. It's quite a stack.
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Thank you. Are any of these for anyone else...?

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Anyone else who'd be in a similar space mentally and need them, yes.

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Okay. Anything else before I go?

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They're all still well? As much as can be?

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Yes.

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She nods. That's all.

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Thank you.

And she pops back to Lúthien and takes her home.
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And Lúthien scurries off to reassure her father that she's in one piece.

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And Loki goes with an invisible stack of letters to see if Maedhros is alone.

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He isn't, but extricates himself. Hey.

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Hey. Your mother got some people to write - generic, not personalized for you, she didn't say it was you - letters from-and-for ex-residents of Angband. Might be incriminating if you think people are reading your mail, though.

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People might be reading my mail. Hmm. Leave them in Himring for now, I do want to read them at some point.

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Okay. She pops to Himring, drops them off in her room in a drawer, pops back.

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That was thoughtful of her. And fast, for Valinor.

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It's very slidey there but not to the point where I'd think an actual deadline would become meaningless.

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I remember.


Why is 'ex-residents of Angband' even a category it makes sense to solicit for things.
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...What do you mean?

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How did the Valar ever pardon him. Knowing.

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Well, Thauron said it was so he'd stop hurting the orcs.

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You know, that's the most charitable-to-the-Valar explanation I'd ever heard. He could release their oaths, too. Huh.
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It obviously didn't work out, but yes.

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A thousand years. They got a thousand years of peace and presumably no orc suffering out of it. Maybe it ends up coming out worth it.

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Maybe.

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The trade Thauron offered you, writ large, only they did not ask us to volunteer.

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More or less.

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And had a better sense of what exactly they were volunteering us for than I think you did.

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Possibly. To the extent the Valar understand things in a useful manner.

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It'll wait, but I'm very curious about the letters.

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I could go get one and sit with you to whisk it away if someone comes by to snoop.

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Would you? I'd appreciate it tremendously.

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Sure.

She goes and gets one.
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And he sits and reads. Emotionlessly, again.

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She sits, she asks Lúthien if the leaves turn out to work, she asks if she should dispense advice on what the Asgardian herbs go on or if people would prefer to experiment.

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The leaves work, and advice would be lovely.

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Loki is mostly familiar with them as they apply to meat - Asgardian Cuisine: Roast That Beast - but some of them she knows vegetables and fruits they work nicely with.

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Lúthien expresses appreciation and thanks her again for the trip.

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Lúthien is completely welcome, of course. Does Lúthien know all the people who might go into accelerated perception and keep Loki company? What are they like?

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She does, but not well. Two poets. An old family friend of Thingol's. A composer.

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An assortment.

How's Maedhros doing with his letter?
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Maedhros is reading his letter. It's apparently very boring.

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Loki attempts to make a hollow ice ball. It's tricky.

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After a while he says "thank you." and hands it to her.

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"You're welcome." She puts it back.

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I can answer questions if you are curious.

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I'm curious but not in a 'specific questions' way.

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There was apparently some coordinated effort to share experiences, in as much detail as people were willing, to find common threads, when they were rescued after the war. Mine was atypical in terms of personal attention from Thauron and Morgoth, but not atypical otherwise. So he hasn't changed his tactics too much, which is interesting - we don't know enough about how the mind-control - the kind everyone's scared of, the enemy-sleeper-agent kind - works. Some people are very insistent that it's just people who've been in a simulation the last hundred times getting tired of this one and not assigning even the smallest chance that this one's real.

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Seems like a conservative explanation, anyway, although I'm not sure where snapping and killing people comes in.

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They reward it. Apparently. After enough simulations most people will try something out of the box, and if you just stab the people around you, that's a month of real time with no torture and enough food, you entertained everyone, good job...

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Oh.

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I don't think I would, even after a hundred times. But it is a sufficient explanation for why some people would, and accordingly reassuring -

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Yeah.

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And it means he doesn't really have mind control, just the ability to put people through a lot of iterations and get them in any state they can be induced to be in. Which, with the memory tampering, is a lot. But still.

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I do find that comforting, but yeah, it's still a lot.

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I also find it comforting if true. There are in fact states I'm pretty sure I can't be induced to be in.

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Likewise.

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I hope you can work productively here, Loki.

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I hope so too.

And she goes and finds out.
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No one is as good company as Fëanor but it's fun to meet fresh people anyway and they're all at least interesting.

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Fëanor's a hard bar to clear, honestly. This is fine. Socializing isn't her primary outlet, she only needs some.

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Well, she has some.

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Then she will last all eight weeks / six months and pop out again to say hi to people who live in sidereal time.

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All of whom are managing okay.

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Hey, anybody know where she could find Ents and/or hobbits?

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There are in fact Ents here in Doriath. No one has a clue about hobbits.

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...huh. Why hasn't she heard about the Ents here before?

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Some of the trees in the forest are Ents. They don't talk much and she didn't reveal much interest in trees.

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...So what is, like, the Ents' deal. Do they... do anything. Or are they just trees.

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Well. Talking trees.

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...Do they have anything to say?

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Sometimes. They're very old and remember all the Ages of the earth. They get annoyed if you disrespect the forest.

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Well, talking to an Ent would at least be new and potentially interesting. Can she meet an Ent?

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She can. Or, she can go up to one and start talking; nothing will happen. Her guide says it may take the Ent an hour to notice she's there.

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She does not have that kind of time. She'll go talk to Maedhros instead. How's he doing.
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Impatient, a little stifled, but not badly off. He'd like to read more letters.

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She fetches him the next in the stack.

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And he sits quietly and reads. I'd just let you see them but I'm not sure I have leave, they're not written for publication. I wondered why they didn't just tell everyone in Valinor everything they had, but apparently if any of it is useful the Enemy can just rip it out, so - no protection in knowledge, really, and it's a lot of pain to put everyone through otherwise.

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I wasn't specifically told not to read them, they're not personally addressed, but I haven't.

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You can if you'd like, then. They will upset you. Based on what I know of what upsets you.

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I'd expect so.

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The thing I shared last time was the only reassuring one.

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Thanks for extracting it.

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You are welcome.

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When he's done with the letter she stows it.

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He leads back against the wall and stares at the ceiling.

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You need anything?
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Teleportation and dead enemies.

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Working on it.
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I know you are.

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She sighs, and goes to look in on the Men and see how things are going with extra necklaces et al.

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There are now a thousand necklaces, Loki's to distribute as she pleases.

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Cool. She reiterates her offer here and then goes and duplicates it everywhere else which has people capable of swearing and potentially interested.

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There is a lot of interest; she can have her pick of people.

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So she picks a nicely-balanced and distributed population and swoops them all to a neutral location and hears their oaths and hands out necklaces and tediously osanwës the alphabet and extant teleportation spell text. Celebrimbor can have an update on her work on extradimensionality too.

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And now there are almost a thousand people who can teleport and heal.

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Good.

They can see themselves home, presumably - she distributes her best up-to-date map, tells them about Direst Emergency Evacuation Plans, tells them all what to try first if they get out of the universe and she's dead or if she gets out and the first thing she tries gets her killed.

Maybe now she'll hang out with Nolofinwëans before she goes back to work; that was really tedious.
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Nolofinwëans are glad to see her.

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She is glad to see them too. Are they up to anything entertaining?

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There's not much recreation ongoing. The teleportation and things were a good idea, people appreciate that tremendously. People actually beam in her direction. Morale seems much improved.

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...anybody wanna try Sparring Now With Added Teleportation?

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They do this with great aplomb.

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It's fun! She does not win nearly so decisively, she's barely more accustomed to the tactic than anyone else!

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Fingon, who is one of the people who can now teleport, doesn't participate in this but comes out to watch at the end; his expression goes from stressed to highly entertained.

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And when she's done: How're you?

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Well, thank you. People appreciate what you did for us here tremendously.

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I'm glad.

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They're interpreting it as a deliberate insult to my cousins. I'm not sure if that's right or no. Not that it really matters.

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Well, I'm not deliberately insulting your cousins.

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If you were you were doing it very well, to have them cooperating with it.

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I am not quite that sharp a deliverer of insults. It was all strategic.

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That makes it even better.

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On what axis?

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Well, I mean, for me in that I am sort of worn out on resenting them and don't particularly derive any satisfaction from seeing them harmed at this point. For everyone else in that you didn't even have to plan it, it all just worked out, as elegantly as anyone could have possibly wanted, on terms even they have no position to complain about.

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All right.

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While still being something they'll absolutely hate. He sighs.

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Well, they didn't complain about it to me.

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They wouldn't have. I think you very much underestimate how much my cousins keep their own counsel. And particularly when it'd be pointless, which it would here. Maitimo says he begged you for teleportation ten years ago and is not doing it again.

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He can have it later.

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So they know there's no point in expressing displeasure to you so they don't. Doesn't stop everyone here from reading between the lines and being in a very cheery mood.

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Very mature.

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You noticed I wasn't.

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You're not. I'm being sarcastic about everybody else, not you.

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Their necklaces?

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Huh?

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They produced all of these necklaces?

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Yes.

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Maybe they are growing up.

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Maybe.

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And for the rest of the conversation he pointedly avoids discussing them at all.

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That's all right.

She goes and hangs out with some Dwarves for no particular reason besides Dwarves being great, and then she goes to put in another eight weeks / six months.
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Uninterrupted and uneventful.