Kib can't so much flee. He can shriek - he can lurch in the direction of the nearest house and try the door - it's locked. He can amble briskly...
He can break into a run when the snake gains on him and fall flat on his face.
And he can get eaten up.
And it's too bright too bright too bright and he flings his arm over his eyes.
It is in fact extremely bright; it's Laurelin's peak and those of Tirion's citizens who sleep every day are sleeping. And those of Tirion's citizens who have trouble understanding that the Ages of Arda aren't about to run out, and who accordingly sleep perhaps twice a week, are up writing speeches and tea invitations and reading about chemistry.
Not more than you, presumably? seems like the only answer that sort of addresses both senses of the word?
So she walks across the street to someone who is lying out in the sunlight drawing and says 'do you know how to teach the osanwë distinction to this very confused man I have just met who either doesn't remember it or doesn't know it?" and the person who's been drawing in the sunlight comes over and explains.
Well, he decided he trusted all his co-prentices not to read his notebooks but if he hadn't he'd have had to make up a cipher? But he doesn't actually have one, it won't be natural to think in it.
He could put private thoughts in Harthanic.
Except he doesn't speak Harthanic he just had a really vivid dream that he could. That she could, rather.
...He will make public thoughts out of shines and private ones out of shades? He tries that, licks blood off his lip and meditates on it for a minute, then: Now?
They walk into a plaza that is even more dazzling, to the point of actually being impossible to look at, and through there to an enormous stone building that'd be stunningly pretty if he were looking at it which he's not because everything is too bright. The interior of the building is less bright and lavishly decorated.
Kib's guides both bow deeply. Prince Nelyafinwë, one says, this is a lost human and he requested aid and we thought you'd be awake.
Dismissed, they both scurry away, and he turns the smile back to Kib. Your name I don't have.
I have no idea where I am except in terms of names for places and surrounding places that I have never heard of. Telepathy is scary and I landed here with nothing but what I'm wearing and I don't know how to ride a horse and if I try to walk for six months to talk to the whatever they were called about sending me home somehow I will probably find a way to walk off a cliff and die in that interval because I have the gross motor skills of a drunk toddler and I do not even know how I got here, the last thing I remember before everything was way way way too bright was that some kind of bizarre snake monster was chasing people through town and because aforementioned gross motor skills I was not well equipped to run away so that's a complete mystery and I'm not sure whether to be optimistic about ever seeing anybody I know again. Help.
He stands up and pulls a scroll off a shelf, unfurls it. This is a map of everything my people know of the world. Here is Tirion. Here is Taniquetil, which is probably where you want to go to talk to the Valar about sending you back. This whole area is Valinor, the Blessed Realm. We're not in contact with the rest of the world and it's possible you're from there and got here somehow. They have monsters there, though I have not heard of bizarre snake monsters that could cause someone to wake up on the streets of Tirion.
I am very sure the Valar can send you back, so you have reason for optimism about seeing your family again even if they don't come here when they die. Which they very likely do.
Seeing the people you'd want to see, he says instead. I can go down to the libraries and search for accounts of snake monsters in the Outer Lands, though that wouldn't be very conclusive, and the Valar will definitely know what's going on. I am arranging for a place for you to stay while you are learning to ride a horse, and I can then arrange you an escort to Taniquetil.
If I needed new clothes at home, I would go to a shop and I would exchange money for them. Money is a generic store of numericized value which can be traded for near-arbitrary goods and services so that people who sell clothes can then go on to purchase eggs or sofas or whatever strikes their fancy without needing whoever keeps the chickens or assembles the furniture to care about their welfare personally or consider the transaction good advertising in its own right.
I assume they are written down somewhere and I can have that somewhere copied for you, or if you teach me your alphabet I can write it out in that. I'll tell the royal libraries to get us a copy of that and to look for precedent in snake-monsters, though I'm not optimistic on the latter front. I wonder if you could get some of the benefits just by humming it as you go?
Ah. Well, I think I'm about average for my world and on my world you could draw crowds, I might not be able to get it to work at all, but I would certainly like to try. If it works without lyrics maybe it could go in a hurdy-gurdy and an automaton could play it for me all the time.
Do you not have hurdy-gurdies? They're cylinders with little - He attempts to send a mental image. Pick things arranged on them, and you set them next to a series of differently tuned pick-able musical pokey bits, and then the cylinder turns and as long as it does it at a constant rate it'll play the song on it in a loop.
It's really not hard, but if you don't have it here you might not be able to. Kib makes another one from the same source shadow, thoughtfully, and has them both scoot up onto his hand from the floor and wind up on his face. Should've thought of this before. Dark glasses. Since it's tolerable indoors he hides them in his hair. The thing you really ought to have noticed if people can do it is the version with animals.
It's not as comprehensive as puppeting shines, which is good because then to get anywhere with a pet you'd need to know how to fly or walk on four legs or whatever and they're more complicated than mechanicals, they just take verbal instructions after a while of being imprinted on their servantmaker. I mentioned this earlier when those other people were talking about horses, I could probably ride a horse I could give instructions to but it would be rude to make a pet out of a borrowed horse.
I mean, people will be worried about me, but they will be worried because I got eaten by a bizarre snake monster in the middle of the street, not because I'm urgently needed for anything in particular. It only makes a small difference if I'm back in two weeks or twenty and this is interesting.
Shades - and shines, which are the same principle but spots of light and are more popular because you can get them in colors - get used a lot in theater and art, and you can also program them to do things without being constantly puppeted and then you can use them to send long-distance messages or keep time and stuff. They're not my focus, I just made one as an example because golems require parts and are really time consuming.
Just sort of around. It's really hard to actually catch a baby as it appears without camping out at a good spot for months on end, generally one has to find them later on, but they can be most anywhere sort of tucked away. Somebody anonymously invented a kind of golem that goes and listens for crying and brings the babies back to the nearest creche, that's done wonders for population stability now that it's not all hikers stumbling over infants tucked into hollow logs or whatever.
I guess there are advantages to that system. We get kind of used to it being a fact of nature that sometimes babies die of exposure and starvation alone in the woods, we can't find them all - there do seem to be new stork golems occasionally, somebody's still churning them out in batches, we just don't know who.
I can't think of any earthly reason I'd want a baby around. I don't think I could stand to have an apprentice younger than four and it'd have to be a precocious four. Some people like babies and take them off the hands of overloaded creches, but that's not common at all, usually it's creches up until the kid's ready to eat with utensils and not throw rocks indoors and learn something. Some kids don't even get apprenticed, they just stay in the creche until they feel like striking off on their own.
Okay, but a ton of languages are spoken on my world; I know the one that's common to city-states in a certain region of the largest continent but there are dozens and dozens more. If the Valar can rescue all the babies as they appear I'm all for it but arranging that they're suitable to repatriate will be a complicated project.
I don't remember how to make a shine clock or I'd do that. I guess I could still make one, it'd just be really imprecise because I don't have anything to go by for a standard of how long a second is. But I've been here for a couple hours, I will sleep for about eight, twenty-four is a day, and three hundred ten is a year.
This is the Blessed Realm. If there were something that caused suffering or bothered people the Valar'd fix it. I - I so to very badly want to go to your world and also am worried that I'd realize I failed here to develop some necessary coping skills. Sitting on the ground feeding cats for a few centuries would be a very bad failure mode.
Yeah, I prefer humans to cats too. And I can't just order around random cats or I probably would, I'd have to hold one and pet it and probably get nastily scratched up in the process for twenty minutes, half an hour maybe, and then it would do what I said. Tyelcormo is your - brother?
I haven't paid a lot of attention to animal breeding. One of my co-prentices is mad about pets and I picked up what I know about animals from her mostly. And yes, one can breed animals for various characteristics, but it's deeply weird to think about that being foundational to how people interact with each other.
Oh, I think people'd interact the same with adopted children. In addition to shared blood you have shared upbringing, there's a cultural expectation that you'll be supportive of and there for each other. If I did something really wrong I might lose my friends but I wouldn't lose my family, generally. It works pretty well when it works.
When the bird steps onto his hand Kib draws it closer to him and starts petting it. Mandos is the holding area for the to-be-reembodied? Yeah we don't have that, if I die I'm just dead. Please do not arrange to risk my being savaged by dinosaurs if that is a likely outcome of trying to imprint them.
I've been considering tracking down the inventor of storks and seeing if they'll take help filling out the ranks. I understand why they'd do it anonymously but they could clearly use a little more servantmaker labor on the project. I'm not best suited to detective work but it might be doable.
Uh, control of where children go could get intensely political very fast. If you control storks and you don't like some city-state or some culture or some ideological minority, bam, suddenly you have dramatically more kids than they do, maybe they don't have any, you don't have to lift another finger, they're out of population in a few decades.
There's too many of them, even if you assume absolute convenience of transport. It would also be a major project to raise them in such a way that you could put them back in my civilization so it didn't collapse, but apparently you'd all be up for that, it's just the numbers that don't work.
By the time they reach the palace there are more people on the streets, mostly walking briskly or assembling vendor carts, and Maitimo has a slightly better command of the language. "My - you don't have a word - Atar is the Quenya - says this way to learn a language. Most people don't want to talk, they know they will say things wrong, so they are too quiet. My father says use all the words you have, guess, just keep talking, you learn faster."
"Different places have different procedures but mostly everybody picks someone they think would do a good job, and then whoever has the most support gets to be in charge. Some places are ruled by whoever had the idea to go live there, and then they pick apprentices and the best apprentice gets to be next when they die? That's closer to your thing."
"You can meet anyone you would like! What I was saying about being the governor before I got distracted by explaining families is that anything I say is the law unless the governor says otherwise, so if you are having problems settling in here you can let me know of them and they will stop being problems."
"For some reason it is actually not considered a very urgent problem by most humans. I mean, they're glad when any specific thing that kills people is addressed - it's good if you eradicate a specific disease or put up a guardrail along a cliff or invent storks - but old age, nobody's seriously working on, and there's not an obvious way to start."
"To make a walking chair I just have to make it able to move and respond to obstacles, probably also hear so I can snap my fingers to call it over. It'd still be a pain in the neck to program, but straightforward. One that could cut hair would have to be able to see, handle scissors without stabbing me in the neck, and tell whether my hair looked right and take actions to neaten it up where it didn't. Without going overboard and leaving me completely bald or something. If for some reason I decide I've got to have a golem that can cut hair I might as well go the whole hog and make one that can talk intelligibly, the works."
"Things handed to you in the street will not be magic, magic things take a long time to make and are usually designed for someone, or at least kept so people can go get them at need, not just handed out like diamonds or anything. You can't usually tell what something magic does without either a lot of knowledge of our magic or the help of the creator, though it's often obvious. Lots of things glow, or heat up, or warn the bearer of danger. Someone might actually have a ring for graceful movement, I should ask around.'
Aly did not take the last chocolate puff, she didn't, she didn't, it was one of the other apprentices -
Aly is teaching her new co-prentice to move shines -
Maitimo stops by about midmorning to apologize again for having to work, introduce one of his servants who can be a guide, and bring the clothes in Kib's size that should tide him over until his own are all done being tailored. They are indeed pants. They are very soft to the touch and very elaborate.
And then the lights are Mingling again.
"Not terribly so, really. I am a person who likes having my time occupied, and this is a delightful way to occupy it. Regrettably some of the things that keep me occupied require enough scheduling in advance I couldn't spend a week wandering the city with you, but it will not grind to a halt if I want to give you pretty things instead of ugly ones."
Nothing's really obvious so far besides servantmaking stuff, but servantmaking stuff is a big deal, we use it for a lot of things. Having a big population's pretty nice, but we do keep dying and have a lot of problems you seem to have just skipped so I'm not sure it's as much of a head start as it sounds like.
I think a lot of problem-solving endeavors will need to wait to be planned precisely till we know how accessible the Valar find the world, that's what it's sounded like - somewhere on the spectrum between 'sorry, Kib, welcome to Valinor, at least it's pretty' and 'why yes we can be emergency services for everyone about to die of anything anywhere in your world now that you have alerted us to the problem'.
That'd be great. I don't have anything to collect it with, the palace workshops aren't as good as the ones in my home - perhaps you can come over later this week when I've developed a list of all the tests I'd want to runt through, and we can do it all in one go? How about Elenya? That's the day after tomorrow. I also want to learn the language you're speaking but you can teach me while we're running tests.
Yes, he asked me for a three-sentence version of everything more interesting about you than the language - which he finds very interesting, he'd probably have kept you up all night if it hadn't turned out you come from a planet of dying people - which is a very efficient way to get to the heart of matters. But 'nice' doesn't always leap to mind.
"Anything repetitive, in particular - that's what automata are for. Or that an animal can physically do without having to actually be able to think complex thoughts. Shines for messages - they move ridiculously fast when sent at top speed, if you had a code set up with the Valar you could've sent them a series of colored shines and they'd know what was going on to the limits of the code. Golems are more complicated to make than automata but they can react to their environments, slightly different use cases. Puppets for any mechanical work that you can think about more easily than you can otherwise give impetus - I can turn most things with moving parts, wheels or whatever, into puppets, and move them along with an amount of attention scaled by how complex the force I need those moving parts to generate is."
"Golem can do that. I need... probably at least three square feet writeable surface area, on a body that can turn pages and hold a pen. Depending on how hard it is for me to get up to speed in foreign metalworking tools and facilities maybe a month for a prototype, future ones would be faster."
"You won't have to work that hard to convince me to stay, I can clearly make a bigger splash here than I can there between 'alerting Valar to problems' and 'being the only servantmaker in town'. Even if I have to learn to cut my own hair. And the primary horses application is for me to go to the Valar, right, and Tyelcormo's going instead?"
"You wouldn't have a museum piece! You could still read it!" says Kib lightly. "Except maybe you'd clap your hands over your eyes in horror and fling the book to the floor, perhaps that's what happens if you try to read bad handwriting, it must be awkward to be a small child around here wobbling out a holiday card or whatever small children here write." He starts sketching plans for an etcher - it's elegant but simple, a couple extensible clamps to grab onto the sides of a golem surface and a stick with the diamond embedded in it to press and move and pick up again via wheels attached to the frame.
And he emerges like a gopher from its burrow and scares up some breakfast from somewhere and resumes programming and sketching, alternating each as the design from one comes clear enough to throw the other into better relief. Then he remembers this is the day he was supposed to do things with Fëanáro and goes and finds somebody to ask about where to find him.
Explain to me how your magic works.
Kib pulls the shades off his face, runs them down into the palms of his hands. "There's a bunch of kinds of servants. These are shades I made out of shadows - the same shadow twice, actually - and you can do the same thing to patches of light. I'm operating them manually and using them to keep the bright off my face outdoors but they can also be programmed and move ridiculously fast when told to go at top speed, crossing a continent in seconds. I can also render animals obedient to verbal instructions - I had a bird here but I let it go except it'll come if I call it now in case I think of something I want a bird for. And there's also puppets, automata, and golems, which are all hardware servants that are respectively operated manually - like I'm doing with the shines - or do the exact same thing over and over, or respond to their environments in programmed ways. I've been working on a scribe golem, Maitimo's idea."
"Procedures are different for all of the kinds; it currently seems likely that only people from my world can do it for some reason. Maitimo tried making a shine, I telepathied him how -" It's like this - "- and it didn't work and I don't think he was making any mistakes, and we briefly thought Tyelcormo might be able to do it but it turns out he's doing something different from what I can do with an animal."
"Basically more or less complex sculptures covered all over with writing describing how they're supposed to work. There is actually no reason a non-servantmaker couldn't sculpt and program a golem. I'd just have to wake it up. You could program shines and automata too, I'd just have to move the shine over its instructions or install the instructions into the automaton. And I can tell animals to obey other people, too. It's puppets you can't get any direct use out of."
"I brought my notes on the scribe. Golems have the most complicated minimum viable program, though, they need at least one sense and at least a couple things to do in response to well-defined sensory input." He pulls out his scribe notes and sketches and reads some of the better-developed sections of program.
"For the program, you have to fit it all onto the golem surface. For the sense data, though, that it stores without using up any physical repository. You have to program them specially to give them perfect memories but it's doable. And they can be more involved than reciting scripts, although there's none that claim to have internal thought experiences or anything worrying like that. Really sophisticated talking golems are not common though."
"I don't have any golems or full programs on hand, I wasn't really packed for a trip. And they move around with force that's pretty uncorrelated with how they're built, they're really strong unless you make them out of balsa wood or something - if there's a wrong instruction it might just, I don't know, my scribe could swap blue for red when it's doing colors or something, but every now and then someone makes one that can rampage down the street breaking windows and people's ribs."
"I mean, I guess if they can just stop it in its tracks or break it should it do something unexpected, that's a useful safety? Complicated golems are often activated with a couple puppet etchers on them ready to scratch out instructions and break them if they do something unexpected. The problem is when they usually behave like they're supposed to and then do something weird. Or when the maker's careless, but I'm not."
"Are they going to supervise it for, like, weeks? It can take a long time to evaluate golem stability beyond a shadow of a doubt and I have very unclear information about how the Valar allocate their time, like, on the one hand they are a two-digit number of deities who live weeks' travel away from what I understand to be your major population center, on the other hand they're consulted on architecture."
"Were consulted on architecture, back when Tirion was built. They used to have a much more hands-on approach and live here and mediate all our disputes and help build our houses and let people petition for their preferred weather and so forth, and eventually everyone reached the conclusion that this was unwise. So now they're at a distance that makes them not unapproachable but not easily called over to settle whose property an apple that has fallen from a tree has landed on."
"She found living unbearable, and then when she was not ready to return to it the King decided that he desired to take another wife. It is the law of the Valar and of Eru himself that a person cannot have multiple wives, so for the King to remarry they had to keep her dead. And so she is still dead."
"Most people never use oaths to commit themselves to future courses of action, just for trustworthiness. If the stakes are high enough it is sometimes worth committing yourself to certain reactions to actions by others - that sort of thing has to be worded very carefully, or sworn before someone who can release you."
"Yeah. And billions isn't a physical space so much as a density problem but it wouldn't stay that way for long from there, we should definitely have an eye on colonization options. If it indexes to population maybe we should do our best to evacuate my planet except for some people to generate as many babies as seems like the right number."
Someone knocks tentatively on the door of the workshop. Fëanor says something in Quenya and he comes in, with sandwiches. Curufinwë, he says to Kib, and to Fëanor I have the biology articles you wanted though I have not finished reading them and biological decay happens on Tol Eressea in the way needed for experimentation so we can do tests there if needed.
This eats up the whole of the afternoon and the evening and dinner is more sandwiches because you can eat them one handed while working and it is long past the Mingling when Maitimo walks into his father's workshop and says 'has your research enabled you to determine whether humans sleep? Because I think they do, and you should let this one do it.'
"Father," Maitimo says, "it is halfway through the night. You will still have him in the morning."
- has lunch with a friend.
- is the only kid in her class paying attention to how to conjugate, everyone else thinks Harthanic's dying out, but the teacher she wants speaks it -
- trips into a puddle, ruins her trousers, is cold all afternoon because they're not by the creche and she can't change.
Yawns. The dreams are coming really thick and fast now. Goes and shaves, carefully, doesn't want to be slightly furry-looking.
...is he dawdling?
He wasn't meaning to dawdle, just to be careful, but something feels weird -
It's probably nothing, probably just dream-logic or something, but he was going to make a clock anyway.
He finishes shaving a bit less carefully and goes looking for a suitable backing for a clock. Flat bit of wood will be fine.
...
- a little and then he sets out to reconstruct how to make a clock with them. Red shine can be seconds. He writes a simple repeat instruction, beginning and end, on two pieces of paper, pilots the shine onto the wood, gets it into a metronomic rhythm that he thinks is a second manually, and then tucks the instruction into place so the shine will slide over it, start recording his puppetry as a behavior, and then hit the second instruction when it's spent two seconds going right, then left.
So far so good.
The hours and minutes can go around the seconds where they tick by in the middle. He marks, lightly, making sure it'll rub off, fifteen markings around one quarter of the very edge, six just inside from there, he's not going to mark out the whole circle. Minutes can be blue. If he were doing this really precisely he'd actually sit here for an hour to line up the minutes but if the blue shine wanders off it's not a disaster. He eyeballs it: travel so many degrees, change angle, repeat.
And then he sets up a white shine for hours, ready to be ticked over as soon as the blue one comes full circle.
And he tucks the clock under his arm and heads back for the palace workshop, and checks every few minutes, and it feels like he's doing it every couple and it's more like every five and that's concerning but that's why he has a clock.
By then the hour shine is at work. "Hey," Kib says, "do you know if there's any reason time should feel weird here? Besides it always being bright and the days being longer than I'm used to and stuff. Systematic bias in estimating how many minutes it's been, I always feel like it's been less."
"...if they take a local year I'm going to be, like, substantially older. Not enough to be imminently dying but enough that going home is no longer straightforward. I guess if I show up with my pockets full of diamonds I'll be able to resolve things like 'my teacher has reassigned my room' reasonably well but it'd be a huge gap for everyone I know."
"If they haven't shown in another few weeks I shall send another emissary to communicate that it's more urgent than they realize. For what it's worth, I wouldn't expect it to be a long time unless, for example, they can take all the extra babies and are debating whether to let us try to pull that off."
"It wouldn't be a unanimous vote in favor, at least, if they have the power to pull all the babies from your realm here. They might worry about everyone here working ourselves to the point of misery to save more children than we really have the capacity to - which they'd be right to worry about, we would do that, but we'd be doing that because it was worth it to us -"
"They might also worry about population. Right now our birthrate is just below two - ah, places where babies are born track birthrates. For every existing person, in expectation they will have slightly less than one new person. My parents are overachievers. If the birthrate is below two, then even without anyone dying eventually the population will stop growing. Importing babies who we can grow up so we have enough to help us with millions of babies more will freak the Valar out. They might let us do it but they might not."
"My father has seven sons. You have met me and Tyelcormo and Curufinwë; Macalaurë is the one who you ought to hear sing, and who will be induced to sing for you the minute he hears that you were impressed by my singing; Carnistir's around here somewhere and I could go drag him out and ask him to be sociable but otherwise he won't be bothered to; and the twins are still children."
"Ambarussa are around thirty, yes. Twins are two people who are born to the same parent at the same time and look the same. At least, my brothers look the same, not all twins do. My mother would be reluctant to be dragged away from this world, though she might come if she did not trust me to look after everybody."
"It doesn't make sense to run the country off 'the King asks for things needed to build the roads' so everyone's supposed to contribute a certain amount of their effort and talent to public works things every year, unless they have a good reason not to. That is one of the things money would be very suited to but I can't think how to introduce it."
"You can make it known that these pretty trinkets are worth so much of the Crown's time and can be redeemed with us at will and traded among one another, but our time is a very limited resource and there's not enough of it to be the backbone of a money system. And I haven't thought of a better idea yet."
He is winning very thoroughly at Governor but he doesn't think Kib has noticed yet.
He has been giving Findekáno running commentary on adorable mannerisms of Kib for several days. He now adds adorable Governor moves.
He's mortal, you know, Findekáno says, if you wait a dozen Years because you are excessively cautious then he will be dead.
Thank you for reminding me! He is mortal! And eighteen! And a guest of my family who may not actually know that he has other places to go, and when he first arrived he was alarmed by how much power I have, and eighteen, and their years are even shorter than ours and he is a different species that probably has ridiculous romantic customs I cannot very well ask about, and eighteen! A dozen Years would be wholly insufficient caution!
Would you like me to come over tonight when the mortal goes to bed? I will not cut off all my hair.
I like your hair.
Was that a 'yes please come over I am sexually frustrated' or a 'no don't come over I will annoy you by pining all night'.
I will not pine all night.
- she's the only apprentice who can't run, she listens extra extra carefully to the golem safety procedures that come before the part where you run -
- needs a book on golem programming, the advanced stuff, her teacher was more about puppets even if she got a full course of basics, but half this shelf is missing -
- there's an eclipse, it's beautiful, he's sitting with her and they're talking about finding apprentices -
- she does not want to try the broccoli -
"How do people in your world get named? Here the mother picks a name and the father picks a name and the child selects which to go by, or can go by yet a third if they want. My mothername is Maitimo and my fathername is Nelyafinwë, which is why people who aren't my family will refer to me as Prince Nelyafinwë."
"We get usually two names from whoever's got a name idea they want to use at the creche. They try to avoid overuse and strictly avoid duplicate combinations - I know another Akibel but not another Akibel Mowar, and she goes by the feminine nickname Aki, not Kib, my creche was kind of mad about unisex names. We can go by either one but the first one's typical, as are shortenings. Some names are more common than others - there's a creche downtown where every year they name somebody after the first governor of our city-state, other names get made up - especially if they mean something in the vernacular, people go around being called 'Nutmeg' or whatever - or revived after falling into obscurity - 'Alymbel'."
"The Valar speak Valarin but no one's been able to learn it but my father. The Vanyar say they speak Quenya and we speak a confused dialect of Quenya but we say it's the other way around, and call theirs Quendya. Telerin is mutually intelligible but quite different. And then there's the language that only very old people speak that we had in the Outer Lands."
"Depends how seriously you take the people who try to project that sort of thing from math - and small differences affect the results a lot - I can't do math, of course, but for an example if our birthrate were 1.98 we'd close out at forty million people, and if were 1.99 we'd close out at eighty million people."
"It's actually recent, ish - last couple years I've started having this recurring dream-character and she's replacing my regular dreams. It's only in the last couple weeks that it's been all Aly dreams all the time and no, like, piloting a boat made of clouds in a sea of molasses or whatever."
"Sort of? I just get snippets of, like, her life. Out of order. From her perspective. It's a nice enough life. And she's basically exactly like me except for being a girl, so while it's a little weird to wrap my head around having spent hours having dreams about being a girl she's not uncomfortable to inhabit or anything."
"Escorting the only human in the world," Maitimo says, "it's a good use of my time."
"No," he says, "it's not, politics is just an appallingly bad one and lowers your standards. Curufinwë can loan you the biology journals if you want to try to catch up with us."
"I don't think I'd stand a chance," says Maitimo agreeably, but he goes off in the direction his father gestured.
"You have animals that are all one kind, yes? Then something happens - a river changes courses, some of them get blown off to an outlying island - and they live as separate populations and they change sort of the way languages and cultures do, but on a bodily scale, and after long enough they can no longer interbreed and at that point they're considered different species, and that is probably how many kinds of animals came about, Eru probably did not populate the world with billions of them and yet billions there are."
- she doesn't care about their card game but they're so loud she can't help but notice they're really bad at strategy -
- three pages into a book -
- it hurts it hurts it HURTS IT HURTS IT -
Kib does not like the static in the air or the echoes but it's probably rude to comment or something. I was walking down the street at home and a monster I have absolutely no explanation for, which looked like a giant snake with a full length mirror for a face, slithered around chasing people. I tried to run away, but I tripped, and it - put its mirror on me - and I landed in the street in Valinor.
That depends a lot on what kind of longer-term transit access there is. If all you can do is send me home or not do that, I'd just as soon stay here, you don't have any other servantmakers and there's better prospects for my personal immortality; if I can be of use organizing some social program for handling, say, babies that are rescued and brought up to age four or five here and then sent back, or colonization efforts on a third world to deal with excess population on mine, I can do that.
At this point all we are confident we can do without large scale disruptions of a type that could risk the habitability of all involved worlds is occasional transportation of known and well-specified people back and forth. We are trying to think of a stable way to aid children, other than drawing them all into this universe. We have not found one yet. A third world would likewise need to be known to someone or very well specified.
Okay. I'd like to tell my teacher I'm not dead - someone else may have also been mirrored by the snake monster and landed somewhere else, if they find a way home we can maybe establish contact with more places, so checking in now and then would be beneficial to the long term project but it's probably not worth doing more than every - Let's not say 'six months' or 'half a year' - couple dozen weeks. What do you need to know about my teacher to bring him, or should I just go myself to be recalled in a day or so?
Awesome. Okay, I think two of my days, one of yours, should be plenty to tell everybody I'm alive and they should keep an eye out for other people who got snake monstered, sell diamonds, buy books, pack personal items, and then - just hang out near everything I want to bring?
"With my father it's needed to disambiguate because my brother's also named Curufinwë. With me, people usually use 'Prince' if the context in which I was acting or being referred to or being complained about is my formal one - 'Prince Nelyafinwë's tax policy is unreasonable, Nelyafinwë's handwriting is pretty enough for Akibel.'"
"As you commented the day you arrived, the commitment and process are not for everyone. A good principle is not to have children unless you want them very badly. And are married to someone who also wants them and who you are suited to. And here I am, unmarried and not in any desperate desire for them, though who knows what the ages will bring."
"Nothing in Valinor matters. Everything in Valinor is very nice but there is no invention I can perfect, no discovery I can make, no solution I can engineer, that will meaningfully change peoples' lives because everyone's lives are good. I have borne this without resentment but now I have a gateway to a life that actually touches other ones and I do not think I will feel underwhelmed."
"...is that where Quenya came from? Wow. Cities have more fundamental constraints on their setup, though, humans do respond to aesthetics in language and we can do that without worrying about moving a load-bearing consonant or running into a grammatical zoning law or having to pay maintenance costs on excess nouns."
People are very surprised to see people appearing! Kib explains to curious bystanders that the snake thing got him, what ever happened to the snake thing, oh somebody chased it down with an industrial puppet and held it still and it was set on fire, oh is anyone else back yet? no nobody else is back yet who's this ridiculously tall person? this ridiculously tall person is from the place I landed, rejoice, being snake monstered is not necessarily fatal! and then they can be on their way to a bank and then Kib's teacher's house (the bank is on the way).
And here's the bank, which can in fact give Kib fiat currency for holy fuck that's a lot of diamonds man where'd you get them. (Kib's not saying.)
Kib packs up his notebooks and a few other things, explaining where he's going to be and why and hugging everybody goodbye and apparently he owes this co-prentice money so there's that settled and now it is time to buy Oh So Many Books.
Further shopping.
There is indeed a stork. It looks like a bird only a little bit even from a distance; it's got a hollow chest cavity with a baby tucked into it and no actual feathers. It flaps a lot, seemingly too heavy to glide except when it comes in for a neat landing on the creche roof. It plucks the baby out of itself and puts it down and goes SQUAWK and then flies away.
"I can be trustworthy."
He can. He walks over and explains that he is a traveller from a faraway land where children are raised by a few dedicated adults, and that he's done this for seven children and it's gone quite well, and he can swear that the child will be safe and have every opportunity in the world.
"Might want to be near the creche when we're scheduled to go back in case she doesn't count as cargo," Kib remarks.
Maitimo's expression is very very patient and barely twitches.
He organizes the books from his world. - Pauses over the Harthanic ones, but he probably just saw the alphabet somewhere and played it over in the dreams.
He sleeps. Aly plays with shines, Aly reads, Aly has the flu, Aly has a crush on a boy and that's fine because Aly's a girl presumably -
And he doesn't go anywhere near Maitimo.
I told him it was wrong.
Well, someone was going to.
But he did not already know. They don't have children on his world, they must just - not - care - no one in his life had ever told him it was wrong, it had not even occurred to him to wonder, and I told him.
So apologize.
I can't chase him around to say 'sorry that was worded a little strongly but at least regarding the advice about asking men to dance was 100% sincere' -
No.
He likes boys and he hates me and I am the person who told him that he cannot just find someone he loves and build a life with him.
Calling them idiots is a national pastime, I'm going to do it no matter how diplomatic you are. We have very good hearing. Maitimo was an ass to you at a dance and then you decided to vanish into the basement and find somewhere where you fit in better. I'm definitely putting this one on their scoresheet.
I got the impression it was some kind of cultural misstep. On, of course, my end, as I'm a minority of one here. There are probably more delicate ways to tell someone they're repulsive and ought to die alone but, you know, what's important is that the sentiment was unambiguously communicated.
I would not blame you if you go home. You will not be able to announce a marriage to a man in King's Square with your friends waving and giving you presents. If you have a house together occasionally people will raise eyebrows and if you kiss in public people will be horrified. Those are more than sufficient reasons to decide it's not worth it to you to stay here.
But you're not a minority of one and you are not repulsive and you wouldn't die alone. Or at all, probably, we are going to figure out how to fix that.
I'm really not trying to talk you out of going home. When I realized that your world doesn't have families, that they just wouldn't care at all, I was tempted, and I have obligations and commitments and a whole life here. I just. If the message communicated so clearly was that there's something wrong with you, there isn't. There's something wrong with our gods and it's going to be hard to fix.
"A popular pastime is prompting third parties to comment on the appearance of the object of one's affections, which is something they'll do readily enough because the Eldar talk about beauty a lot for reasons unrelated to flirting. But the way we do it is stupid, you needn't. You could tell me more about golemmaking constraints, that was pretty cute."
"Once I actually turn it into a golem I basically can't edit it. But when it's not a golem yet and I'm manually operating it, I can notice if there's a snag in a wheel or if a finger's shaped wrong, take the part out, fix it, keep going until it can move smoothly through all the range of motion it needs. And then I just have to get the program right."
"And all in the space of a week and a half -" he scowls at the palace doors. I want to kiss you. But doors that wouldn't be suspicious were they closed are sort of the minimum security requirement. Can I show you around the walls tomorrow night? It's really pretty up there and you owe yourself more breaks.
Observation, or desperate ingenuity. I was sufficiently bad at flirting with men when I was younger that I in fact had a reputation for flirting with men. Everyone's kindly assumed I grew out of it. My boyfriend is much better at subtlety and no one has ever had a word to say about him but that has its own costs, namely that no one will ever guess you are open to being propositioned.
So I teased him. Relentlessly. For several of our years, several of your decades. I don't know what I thought I'd achieve but it was so much fun - whenever we were alone -and finally I did reach the end of his considerable patience but instead of telling me I was disgusting he said 'Findekáno, you have a choice, you can either cut it out forever or come here right now.'
One assumption which I expect to be extremely foreign to you is that the fundamental purpose of sex is reproduction. Yes, people also have it for fun, but the reason it was created was to drive the creation of new life. People who are therefore having sex outside a life partnership with the person they intend to raise children with are - abusing and diminishing a sacred thing, though not everyone even has intuitions about sacred things so I don't know how helpful that is.
Another assumption is that sex between men is dirty and disgusting. I do not care to speculate on the roots of that one.
Another assumption is that if two men are in a relationship one of them has the advantage of the other in a way that affects our judgment of them outside their relationship - if there's an obvious power differential the dynamic is assumed to follow that, otherwise people will speculate - and giving sexual favors to another person is considered less acceptable than receiving them, if you're doing sort of what you'd be doing with a woman that's most acceptable. That's - asking a man out at a dance is assertive enough that the implication isn't just that he might be attracted to men but that he might be willing to let you use him, which is why people will react by being violently insulted.
I don't think there's any particular basis for any of the cultural assumptions.
He stands still for a second later. "Right. How's the scriber coming along?" And then the tension melts away to be replaced with a wry smile, "are you one of those people who works better when annoyed, or worse? Not that I'm going to terrorize you over the next cultural misunderstanding just to get books a little sooner..."
There are a lot of ways onto the walls of the city but here is one with minimal climbing, he apologizes that all his favored escapades in Tirion require some singing to be safe for Kib. "And, I mean, not all of them. I have in fact snuck into the palace in the middle of the night for some kissing on the throne. But."
"Have to be way more careful, are under a lot more scrutiny, but once you figure out how to navigate those - we can all travel the countryside practically at will, we can give people absurdly nice things with no scrutiny, and everyone knows who we are. And for some people it's specifically appealing. Thus sneaking into throne room and so forth."
"You honestly might not. Your people can't have children anyway, so everyone'd be very confused and very lost. But - it's only the actual content of the prohibition that's divine law. No sex with men, that's from Eru and the Valar. All the assumptions that apparently Maitimo explained to you, those come from cultural and historical contingencies."
"...you are really young by the standards of our people. There are some lines I'm kind of pushing here. I am assuming that if you were inclined to tell the gods to fuck off about your intimate life you'd be similarly inclined to tell anyone else to, but. Ah. If there are things that would make that any simpler..."
"...I am a mature adult human, I'm allowed to vote and have sex and get a passport and own a house and whatnot. I was like a couple months away from formally finishing my apprenticeship, at home. As for the rest of what you just said you're going to have to be less oblique."
"We consider someone of age at fifty but I'd hesitate to pick up a man who was fifty. Also - " what else had been in Maitimo's litany - "you're here as a guest of the crown, one usually doesn't proposition people who might feel they're depending on you for a place to sleep. I don't know your customs and sometimes cultural differences can result in people miscommunicating intent in a way that gets someone hurt."
"Also it has crossed my mind that if it turned out to be unwise to go off to secluded places with you without telling anyone where I am while literally incapable of breaking into a run, well, I do retain the option of going around loudly ruining your life afterwards and then traveling to another universe to escape all social consequences if that seems like a good plan. So, y'know, don't rape me."
The Tree the Elves usually sleep through reaches her very bright golden peak. The walls are pretty shaded. The city, even in festival season, is pretty quiet. Do you know how to sneak back into the palace? Not that you can't just walk in, but you told the whole city you like boys so you'll have a harder time passing off suspicious levels of dishevelment...
"Producing a lot of magical artifacts and now, I suppose, golems very fast at need if we find a world that requires them - once you know how to make stork golems we could produce a hundred a day - coordinating aid to refugees if there's a war in some world - old age is not something that would ever have occurred to me, I don't know all the ways that worlds can be bad..."
"I could probably invent something like a stork from scratch but they've got a way to recognize others of the same make and exchange information - what roof symbols creches are using, what areas they've covered - might still be worth it if people churn out hundreds of my version though..."
"Lots of things, but things that are valuable in the quantities a stork can carry are fewer, they're designed to haul babies, not freight. Some metals, some spices, it's a little trickier to sell art but art can go for a lot and you have some absurdly nice art here, I think musical instruments are expensive..."
"I've got the outline of the program, just need to make sure I have all the details it'll need and that I've accounted for all the - see, the golem won't automatically know how to move, so I'm going to etch symbols into various parts of it and define certain motions in terms of bringing those symbols closer together or lining them up in certain ways. I need to make sure the program needs only as many of those as I think it does, and then I can etch them in and make sure I can walk it through the range of motion it needs without cheating and using a degree of freedom I didn't symbolize."
Well, he's not going to hurt the common alphabet's feelings, but Kib doesn't ask what he thinks of its loveliness, just teaches the messy sound correspondences - "the language is popular because someone who spoke it conquered a bunch of stuff decades ago and it's got simple flexible grammar, not for its intuitive spelling" - and bits of programming on top of that as he goes through his outline.
And when they get tired of kissing and hair-petting Findekáno holds Kib close and listens to his heartbeat and resists the urge to tell Maitimo that he has good taste in men to crush on and wonders if there is an acceptable way to ask if Kib's society attaches particular significance to whether one has ever had sex.
Elves are supposed to be several times stronger than Men. And he is stronger than average, stronger in fact than Maitimo not that Maitimo'd ever let anything between them be settled by a contest of strength, and so he can pin Kib down with one hand and tickle him with the other, which is very fun and also very arousing and Kib, in his lap, will certainly have noticed this and can again stop him if he has objections or something.
"Well, I'm not sure what he means by 'data handling', but, potentially, that, golems can remember anything you tell them or they absorb if you make them to do that and people can use them for math problems and searching a library of data they have the golem read or whatever."
"Oh, really," he says. "The whole field of cryptography will be born dead, then - or, depending exactly what you can do - what can you do?"
"I don't think they do cryptography - or at least they don't yet - but sophisticated libraries sometimes have talking golems who read everything in the library and can tell people what they're looking for, mathematicians occasionally use them if they can get them, that sort of thing. They're not that widely used because they're so time-consuming to make, but that's by human standards."
The other is to do it very carefully, which makes it a search problem, mostly: trying to identify of the hundreds of billions of overlapping resonances that can be ambient which ones are affecting aging and how we can counter them." And he launches into the search problem and how it could be approached.
"I don't know about deaf people in particular but it's not strictly required that it be a sense I have - golems that can see in the dark have been made, storks are suspected to have ludicrously good hearing. It might however be easier for an Elf to learn to program golems and for me to only do the waking part than for me to try to wrap my head around the sense well enough to write it in."
"...Yeah, a ways in, kids have lots of energy and around my age is about as good as it gets and when I'm thirty in my years I'll probably still be pretty quick in the brain but less physically energetic and it's downhill from there. We don't just suddenly die when our creche dates are too long ago, we wear out."
So a lot of people who look vaguely like mixes of Fëanáro and Nerdanel gather around the table and ask each other technical questions, quite competitively. He meets the Ambarussa, both of whom look to be about the age of humans of 10. Macalaurë gets bored of the conversation and starts singing and everyone switches to osanwë. The baby is passed around and doted on.
Well. Another day.
The best way to make Maitimo happy about this rather than dramatically jealous and grouchy would be to say to him 'I got you a present, it's the boy you like' but he is unwilling to do that without Kib's approval and uncertain how to acquire Kib's approval without, well, saying. He doesn't worry too long on this because Kib is cute and the only relationship rule he and Maitimo have are 'if you don't like what I'm doing you can manipulate me into not doing it'.
Eighteen!
It gave me pause so I, unlike you, talked with him about it, and then was satisfied - Maitimo please calm down you are looking very scary and your mortal will be scared -
I didn't expect he'd be upset I kissed you because of your age, I thought he trusted me a little more than that. He's not upset I kissed you because he thinks he gets a say broadly over who I kiss. I like you a lot but probably would not have acted on it if Maitimo'd shown any signs he was inclined to, because he gets crushes much less frequently than me. But once he'd decided he'd just not apologize to you and spend the next century moping-
Okay, so one person in this room respects me enough to believe me when I say I'm as old as I have to be to do whatever I like - to in fact have asked first - and one respects me enough to not set me up without my knowledge on behalf of a third party it's a lovely combination wouldn't it be nice if it could be blended into one package, says Kib, reaching for his clothes. What were you imagining I'd think in a century or two, 'oh, that's completely reasonable, I expect people with genuine regard for me to be completely silent about it for multiple human lifetimes, that's normal, what an excellent relationship foundation' -
I have no idea how you got from 'my boyfriend has a crush on you which is why he didn't immediately turn around and leave like he should have, I apologize on his behalf' to 'I seduced you as a present for him'.
In that case I have the idea of how you got there and regret acting in a way that made it seem plausible. I did not seduce you for my boyfriend although I certainly wanted to confront my boyfriend with the fact I had because I find his tendency to come up with reasons he couldn't just ask you to be absurdly annoying. If he wants to continue being ridiculous and you want to stop forgiving him for it I will stop trying to mediate.
Grown sideways, snorts Kib. Okay, so, for future reference, here is how I always imagined my eventual romance would go, I'd meet some guy who would take a reasonable amount of time like say a couple weeks to decide for suitably flattering reasons I was the most appealing person ever to wander through his field of vision and then this fact would be communicated and there would be transparency and boundaries and the use of language and a tasteful autumn wedding and I can make some compromises since I moved to a different world with weird social customs and immortality and other complicating factors, but none of those compromises are 'transparency and boundaries and the use of language'. If either of you actually like me, he pulls his shirt over his head, then to prove it you can act like I deserve to know if you're quietly assuming I'm an infant and like it matters if I know all your reasons for being interested.
Okay, Findekáno says. One of the reasons I was interested in you was because I'd been getting regular constant daily commentary about you from Maitimo, who was delighted by your company, and who asked my help practicing your language, and his commentary was very flattering of you and also successfully conveyed lots of character traits of yours that I found appealing. I did consider how to say this sooner but there wasn't a way without outing Maitimo and I wanted to know you better before I did that. I was pleased with you when you pointed out that you could ruin my life if I hurt you but I wasn't willing to add the life of someone I loved to the stakes there.
Okay. Kib shakes his head. I am very annoyed about how this played out and expect to be treated better in the future whether that involves kissing or not but I am also not going to ruin anybody's life over this mess. I will get out of your room now, sorry for the inadvertent trespass, he adds to Maitimo, and he gets up and steps into his shoes.
I think you took a chance on it I wouldn't personally have taken.
If your sister is grown in eighteen years and marries in twenty-five are you going to go around menacing at her husband -
I'm not really sure. I don't think I have a good concept of 'grown in eighteen years'. Also you find it hard to manipulate people and I find it hard not to, that seems like a morally relevant difference.
I think you'll find Kib much harder to manipulate than you find me.
Really?
Oh, yes, definitely.
Did you seduce him for me?
I was partially motivated by exasperation at you and the conviction you two, if you'd get over yourself and ask him, would be really cute together. I considered saying to you 'I got you a present' for the look on your face but I would have had his leave.
I don't think he's interested in me.
Most people who are interested in you won't actually spend Years throwing themselves at you. You will definitely have to pursue him.
And if I - genuinely take Years, to get to the point where I feel like I understand someone well enough to trust them -
Then say that instead of 'eighteen', the 'eighteen' thing annoys him.
Eventually they get up and leave separate ways.
"She's not just 'someone', though, I told you, she's exactly like me. Once I catch up - or even get close - to having her whole life it'll just be sort of - prepended onto mine, there's not an underlying personality distinction or anything - did I tell you that when I wake up the dreams are really clear for a little bit but then they don't fade away like normal dreams and they don't stick clear they fade back like they happened that long ago -"
"Not much, fractionwise. I get - three to six hours total a night, maybe, average midway between those? I don't think I get anything before she's about four, maybe almost four, so assuming she died at - would've been twenty-four - and I only get her awake, so two-thirds of twenty years is like a little more than thirteen years of total time to get through in random order a few hours at a time. But I could catch up even if the Valar don't make me immortal."
"Well, that'll make one of us but I have them anyway. It was called the pox, there are other poxes but this was the pox, and there would be one or two lesions per joint - it was mostly around the joints - and on the spine, a few there too, that started itchy and just sort of got worse and worse and deeper and deeper till you could see bone through them and -"
"One of the more askable-of-a-six-year-old commonalities between me and Aly, we - I organize my thoughts by writing them down and the three questions are 'what do I want', 'what do I have', and 'how can I best use the latter to get the former'. I can't think of anything that would be nearly as good a bet nearly as early as six, I didn't have my first Aly dream until I was fifteen or so and it didn't seem like a remarkable pattern until there had been lots."
They play Governor that evening. The festival finally concludes, with another concert. Fëanáro occasionally writes with questions about golem programming. And Findekáno asks him out again, to a historical drama that's been frowned out of performance in the city's main venues but is hosting underground shows.
Then it'd be easy to test his vocabulary and reading but hard to test them in a way that wouldn't make him better at the language, and they can't even use anyone else doing the same vocabulary and reading exercises as a control because people vary so much in language-learning ability and the only other human here is three weeks old.
Yeah, that was about as far as he got on the question too. Since there's nothing worth preserving about Kib's half-ignorance of the language... Well, since Fëanáro presumably only knows how to read Harthanic and the things that Kib is pretty sure he can reproduce flawlessly are the accent and fluid casual grammar maybe they should go have Harthanic conversations?
"It's weird," Kib comments, "I think I'm getting most of my vocabulary from actual dream-induced memory, which is why it's so spotty and I can talk about dolphins and not chickens and stuff like that, but I think I'm getting most of the grammar and so on from remembering being somebody who had access to it rather than from remembering actually using or thinking about it. Might be some kind of procedural/factual distinction."
"She was a servantmaker too so that's hopelessly confounded, I didn't notice a jump in how good I was at assembling chassis or programming or anything when the dreams got underway. And I've always spent a lot of time just reading. She cooked more than I've tended to, I guess?"
"It was one of several approaches to succession in place at Cuivienen, and became a topic of political debate after my father'd remarried and we'd settled in here. The King didn't feel strongly about the general principle as long as it left it clear I was his heir, and it's not likely to be relevant, so it ended up being one side of several political compromises I was mostly indifferent to."
"We have material scarcity, and that means everyone is competing, all the time, to have the stuff they need, and there have to be rules about how they can do that, and a way to enforce them which serves as a deterrent but isn't too inhumane to be borne. We don't have Valar, but we do have various contradictory religions many of which have intrusive beliefs about how their neighbors ought to live, and there have to be rules about how far that has to be accommodated. Some places practice debt bondage or slavery and solving that is a political problem. There are wars, and politics about how to decide who has to fight them and how to settle the dispute when it's sufficiently clear who's going to win. There isn't parenting, creches are all run on public funds - what they teach and how they're run is political. There are things some interest groups want literally illegal to say and how much to bow to those interests with censorship is politics. Getting everyone coordinated on public health efforts so people don't have incentives to skip out of quarantine or pretend they've been vaccinated against something when they haven't is politics."
"I'm not sure if at some point the Valar will lose patience with ferrying tourists - and things to sell, the idea for supporting a baby boom associated with mass produced storks is to have the storks show up at creches with money obtained by selling local stuff in my world's economy - it'd be easier if they just made a gate."
"Nope, but what I get out of dreams is almost exactly the stuff it's most difficult to get out of books alone, so now we're both much better at Harthanic. He says you're the person to ask to petition the Valar for some kind of gate - a filtered gate, so as to not have them indiscriminately slaughter an armed incursion should anyone come up with such a plan - so that they don't have to be bothered every time someone wants to do tourism or sell a violin at the stork fund store or something."
I think I remember most of your list. Here I am paralyzed in fear that you're going to kick me out in the street if something should go wrong, look at me, I'm shaking. Stork dropped me eighteen years ago and in that time I can't possibly have accumulated enough experience at, (why is this so much fun, he licks his lips, why not), anything. Those were the main ones, right?
There is genuinely a lot at stake, especially if we need to extract a sane-and-not-potentially-lethal policy from the Valar, though I guess you already know more than enough to hurt me - I have no idea how humans do this sort of thing - I will concede that you have got a lot of accumulating experiences into your eighteen years -
So he lifts him off his feet and then swings him smugly into his arms and then checks with osanwë whether anyone is present and carries him down a hallway and through a door and through another and they're in his rooms and he lets Kib down before he starts kissing him but does not in fact give him time to find his feet.
I am - sometimes - patient. Not at the moment. It's possible to confuse the emotions with your own. If I sent a random human a very strong impression of overwhelming desire, they'd think 'suddenly I am consumed with desire' not 'conveniently I can tell what Maitimo's experiencing' - you might have enough exposure to osanwë at this point, and being forewarned helps, but -
At this point Kib is most significantly smug about having been compelling enough to get Maitimo over his hangups and very few things that could possibly happen in this bed will obviate that, but he will make gratifying noises in response which communicate non-smugness emotions.
Putting together a puppet that will be able to hold a book and turn pages while she's in the bath because baths are boring.
She's drowning in fever and every twitch aggravates the gauze-packed pits clustered everywhere she can bend, every breath stretches the ones on her spine and if she screams the one at the hinge of her jaw boring a hole through her cheek will yawn open - someone's whispering, she can't listen, someone's putting a cloth on her forehead, begging her to hold still to relax to try to be distracted while he changes the bandages, she can't listen it's too much too much -
I'll try to at least think of it, but I don't know that it'll really help, if I'm going to dream through her whole life and it has a defined amount of pox in it, if future Kib pulls off being immortal and has to sleep through whatever happens to me in whatever size chunks...
"Jewelry - nonmagical, spices, fabrics, artwork - what you're most impressed with is probably more valuable information than what I'm most impressed with, but I have a list of things and how easily they're made - I actually just went ahead and ordered everything by person-hours to produce it on this page, and by volume on this page, in case there's a constraint on storage on your end..."
"Storage limit probably not meaningfully, I don't think we'll have any trouble getting enough startup capital to have a whole warehouse." He looks at the pages. "The thing with art is that on the high end it requires more specialized sales work than any of the commodities. Might need a middleman."
"Yeah, true enough. Jewelry's high-end, spices too - ooh, saffron, that's really pricey - and the fabrics here are all really nice too, this looks like a good list to me but I don't have fine-grained commodity pricing information in my head so I can only guess at what's going to be the most lucrative."
"The spices you can just peg to local prices - don't undercut the market and then dump a huge volume in, you'll bankrupt people, but you can price match. Fabric might benefit from a middleman too, some clothier or somebody who wants it in bulk. Jewelry and art if we can't find a trustworthy sales rep right away I think I'd want to try auctioning a few pieces to get an idea of how local tastes react to the stuff and price from there, it's less fungible."
Okay, so some suitable vetting mechanism for going through the filter to make sure excess humans don't wander in causing trouble that we humans are wont to cause, but ideally one that doesn't get personal Vala attention every time, basically nothing you weren't already going to suggest.
Seducing princes? Uh, I seem to have successfully not carried diseases but that might just be luck. Humans as a group have a crime rate that... exists... in comparison to people here, if you let lots and lots in you're going to get vandalism and people picking fights and thieves just on pure statistics.
My city-state has people whose job it is to wander around and if nothing else is demanding their attention they will help lost children and mark food service establishments for health inspection and stuff but if someone has vandalized or robbed or punched you, you go find one of those - they wear uniforms - and tell them about it and then they try to find whoever did it, if it's not obvious, and then consequences range from the officer being uniformed and intimidating and reminding you that was illegal to a few days in jail to if it was really bad exile from the city. Some places get nastier than that. I'm also eliding over a lot of stuff with 'find whoever did it', that gets complicated and varies a ton place to place.
Exiling people from Valinor would probably be straightforward enough. I think we can manage people to deliver scoldings for minor misbehavior. I am not expecting identifying miscreants to be much of a problem, we have better senses than you and osanwë and I think Macalaurë has been working on lie-detecting music.
Yeah. But anyone who's here long enough is going to learn to keep private thoughts - I'd expect most problematic clashes to come up earlier than later as long as we can give people a pamphlet before they come through, like, you know, FYI Elves think everyone is straight and it's best if you don't disabuse them of this conceit... But it's possible some tendency would be dormant or take a while to be provoked or whatever.
Someone who steals something? We'll probably be confused, why did you do that when you could have just asked. Defaces a building? Oh, an occasion to make it prettier. We lived in the Outer Lands, we're blasé about harm because it cannot touch us here not because we have no idea that it's possible. If someone is raped or murdered the Valar might scrap the portal project.
Charming. Okay, so this is definitely worth being careful about but not being too paranoid over, most humans are perfectly nice people and most crimes have some sort of motivation and we can warn them about the obvious misunderstandings so anyone non-straight who can't tolerate shutting up about or being preached at about their sexuality - are we likely to be missing anything else like that at this point, do you think? - can just stay on the far side of the portal.
"Oh, I won't hurry, then. I will hold out for maximally charming phrases about everything on the info sheet. 'Elves have the following religious beliefs. As their gods literally exist and can do things up to and including close this portal, you are encouraged not to challenge them in public contexts or with Elves you do not know well.' Etcetera."
"I think it's so odd to use the same words for 'religious beliefs that there's no evidence for' and 'stated opinions of the actual factual deities.' And yes, that should probably be on there. Though 'close this portal' is not anywhere near the upper limit of things they can do, as I imagine you realize."
"My world doesn't have context for deities who show up and do a crackly thing to the air whether you like it or not and make magic portals, so I'm using the context I've got to bridge to the concept I need. It's closing the portal I'm worried about - I don't think I want people paranoid about smiting, do I?"
"Our world's working definition of magic is things that create physical material from nothing, change physical material in ways it wouldn't usually change without being heated a lot, or directly creating heat, light, sound, etcetera. Those are the things that are magic; they're all hard to do lastingly. The Valar can do them mostly at will. You should ask my father if you want an explanation more sophisticated than that."
"So, I actually looked this up once, the vaccine for the pox is literally deliberately infecting somebody with a similar disease. Someone noticed that if you'd had that similar disease, you wouldn't get the pox, even if you hung out with poxy people all day long. So now when kids are like three they have to sit through having the - there's like fifty names for the thing, my creche's kids called it 'the bad freckles' - but it practically never kills anybody. And some other vaccines are actually the same disease as the one they're trying to prevent, but administered 'dead'."
"Yeah, the body learns. It's possible Lári should get a standard course of vaccines even though she's growing up here. But what I was wondering was if you gave a batch of creche kids the bad freckles and they were cooped up in quarantine getting over it so they didn't pass it to anyone younger, and then you sang them all better and they left, would they get the immunity? Would they still be carrying the freckles?"
I think we're pretty resilient to, like, jealousy, if you were worried. We have had each other for a long time and will have each other forever and there's nothing I want from our relationship more than Maitimo's happiness. Though Maitimo-sexually-frustrated-over-you was in fact pretty hot and I might miss it.
Melkor is currently in the form of a tall Elf, dark-haired, a little paler than most of them but not someone you'd stop to stare at on the street, except for the static. "They don't know how to compress themselves enough the air effects go away," Findekáno says. The lecture is not beyond Kib in more than a handful of places, and Findekáno can fill in the gaps there.
Melkor takes his hand. At this range the staticky feeling is very strong and the air pressure seems to have ratcheted up, but Melkor's smile is reassuring. "Changing the pace of a process is much easier than restructuring the body not to have it," he says, "and a thousandfold is safe; past that I could be affecting something I wouldn't anticipate. If human brains process memory different than Elven brains in some way that makes being a thousand years old distressing I'm not going to anticipate that either. Is that an acceptable risk to you?"
It's too hot and she and all the other apprentices are draped around the room under puppeted or automaton fans.
She's going to a lecture on Lapis politics which is definitely partisan but also the only obvious way to find more about how the place is run.
She's putting together storks, boxing them up to smuggle along with shipments of quarantine-helper golems so not every one will take off from the same city.
"Yeah. I suppose in a way it's good that Aly had my tendency not to make particularly close friends or I'd be really anxious about them - she hung out with people but mostly kind of at arm's length - and I thiiiink her teacher had already died when Aly was still alive although I haven't gotten an actual funeral..."
"Sounds useful to the extent I know what you're talking about. I can - I don't know what I'd be taking revenge for in particular, but I could imagine observing that it would on some level be satisfying to have and then observing that this is not the level on which I actually care about stuff."
"Maybe that's a different framing of the same thing. Observing that something would be satisfying, or relating to the desire, isn't as - helpful, for engagement with people, as wanting it with them and wanting it for them, I don't expect, but then you're probably not often trying to do engagement with people that involves finding them good and interesting and important."
...if something happens to me and then I'm a girl again and she has the dreams and she is untempting to you - both, I assume? - she's gonna be sad. I don't think this actually has the implication that I should be very careful to only date bisexuals nor that in this event you should try to force it, but I sure hope nothing happens to me.
We should probably get a meal sometime and talk about - what you envision from a life here, if it can't involve a wedding party in King's Square, what relationship boundaries work best for you, things like that. I think that sort of thing is generally better navigated by sober undistracted conversation.
The best way to model the Valar is as having - actions that are in character for them and actions that are out of character for them, and no stakes will get them to take an out of character action, or change what sorts of actions are in character, and they all have different characters and for some of them things like 'preferring to minimize loss of life' are in character but not all of them.
If what's in character for him is 'torture people for fun' and 'orchestrate the destruction of everything he touches' then he cannot be deterred from that. If what's in character for him is something more like 'experiment and discover things' or 'break things that others make' then maybe he can be deterred from manifestations of that which involve torturing people and destroying things, unless 'don't respond to deterrence' is a trait of his, like it is one of Manwë's.
No one; why bother? Manwë's the King of the Valar, and has been explained variously as 'incapable of comprehending evil' - that is, committed to interpreting everyone as doing badly at fulfilling Eru's will - or as 'incapable of planning around other peoples' reactions to his actions being anything other than how they'd react were they maximally virtuous'.
"The potato place was a real thing, although it didn't last very long. Some guy sold a bunch of potato farmers on giving him free potatoes so he could do culinary experiments and convince everyone they wanted to eat potatoes. They're sort of weird looking and weren't very popular before that."
Kib refrains with difficulty from asking where Maitimo last saw his other face and does he want help looking. Yeah. So, being here is way more interesting than what I was already doing, and even if I decided for whatever reason to move back to my planet I would still want to be up to my neck in dealing with the interface between worlds, it's just too interesting and high-impact to leave alone. I could, in theory, go home and find some human guy and get married and stuff. And then I couldn't talk about him at work. And I'd have to rope him into the whole secrecy thing if he wanted to know what I was doing, which, I think I have decent taste and he'd find the occupation fascinating - so the comparative advantage of Some Human Guy, besides that he might be less sideways about some things and honestly that's a crapshoot even if he wouldn't be sideways about being gay in particular, is small. I prioritize a publicly acknowledged relationship less than all the productive stuff I can accomplish. I can live with the tradeoff.
That one's honestly a practicality motive if you sweep away all the 'but I really like them', not that really liking you isn't significant. Navigating all the cultural cruft is annoying and difficult and unless there's yet a third guy waiting in the wings for a suitable moment to take my comment at the dance as a reason to hit on me - my point is I can't see trying to finagle it solo and my non-solo option is you two and you're pretty great. Maybe if in the future you want Findekáno to yourself and vice versa I will have more familiarity with the webs of intrigue at work but for the time being - which is all it seems reasonable to plan for - I just think I'm really lucky to have landed in your laps. Also the not taking turns thing would probably bother me in the case of monogamy.
Is that traditional for humans? It's not typical here but I'm sure you'd be able to find it. We can try to directly address the concerns that'd typical draw you to a monogamous arrangement - stable expectations, not having to compete for affection, I don't know what else people typically worry about - if you have specific ones.
Well, I have Findekáno's undying devotion and he will do whatever I ask of him that doesn't harm other people, and this is very satisfying, but I of course wholly enjoy his goals and methods and temperament or I wouldn't have wanted him in the first place. So I can get all the satisfaction with only the occasional demand of costly signals of devotion. And while I suppose I'd love to be adored so much my lover never noticed anyone else, monogamy does not seem to actually cause that. And this way resulted in us having you.
Well, we have a concept of 'love at first sight' whose most conventional form is 'I saw them singing and knew we were meant to be together forever', but my father would stop speaking to me if I claimed to have experienced such a thing. Straight people do not have sex until marriage - they can't, it results in marriage - and the engagement period is one Year and you're not supposed to see each other during that, to make sure you've chosen wisely.
Pretty much. Marriage is - you can tell when two people are married, you can see it in their eyes, and they have osanwë over a much greater range and with some additional nuance and detail. I think there's still a verbal or commitment-affirming component but it's easy enough to do by accident that accidental drunk marriages do happen.
I like things with power dynamics. If our world had chosen to assign different things power dynamics I imagine I'd be fond of those, and if we were some enlightened society in which sex had absolutely no associated power dynamics then I think I'd find sex no more interesting than any other form of interpersonal interaction.
If they're bluffing -
Not bluffing, a woman says. I'm telling you they're not bluffing.
Then they will regret it.
And there are horses moving across the snowy ground, moving swiftly between the barren trees, and the riders have torches and light the trees afire as they go, and race across the ground towards the arguing people. The invaders are shooting everything that moves, and the arguing people learn of their approach in advance of it but not far in advance of it, and then they scramble for armor, scramble to seal off the gates of their city, and are not quite in time. The cave-city is large, and the invaders seem determined to kill their way through every room of it, looking for something, leaving the wounded or surrendering alone sometimes but not always. It is long and it is bloody and he can watch a hundred of the same scene carry out at the same time, the slow destruction of this city.
The invaders halt. Whatever they are looking for they have not found. The leader takes off his helmet, starts giving orders. Kib will recognize him.
The invaders' armor is not improvised. They move like they are experienced. A hundred images at once, again. They are looking for one woman, a string of images suggests she was three when the last city fell, she survived its destruction, that's why they are finding her - and they do find her, on the edge of a cliff where the city meets the beach, clinging to a shining magical necklace and then, when they cut her guards down, leaping off with the necklace in her hands.
The necklace, again. Dwarves have forged it around the stunning gem in the center. They ask for payment. The King of the caves refuses them payment, calls them stunted animals. One of them stabs him. The King's wife - dies is the wrong word, but she dissolves, goes, ceases to be, and the city changes around her. The local Elves kill every Dwarf in sight. Two Dwarven survivors make it to the Dwarven city, a vengeful army marches back to the Elven caves. Sacks the city. This one he provides in less detail. When the Dwarves are returning home they are ambushed.
I was not at all sure this would work until I tried it. I am not sure you'll be able to tell him either. And fate is - sticky, it endures for ten thousand years after people who aren't in the plan start appearing - I am worried that sharing it somehow precipitates it, I am worried that sharing it somehow fails to prevent it - I am not at all sure I'm approaching this rightly. But I ended up concluding that he was unlikely to do anything much worse.
If they're going to happen unless somebody in particular knows about it, and nobody but me can tell them? shrugs Kib. I mean, yes, I can see why you'd want to know I was an acceptable waypoint for information of that nature, but it sounds like the worst case scenario is that cities will be shredded and soil will be poisoned, which is already slated to happen, so...
Melkor showed me some visions of the future and volunteered to swear to their truth and I would like that done before I go anywhere much with them. I don't have enough Quenya to come up with an airtight wording and it's entirely reasonable he doesn't want to swear in the common.
Something like 'I swear that the visions I showed you all represent the truth as I understand it' but if there are fiddly oath-related things to observe I'm open to suggestions. I'd love to press him for more context but he doesn't trust me enough to use me as an unrestricted waypoint for otherwise intransmissible prophecy at this time.
If they're the sort of thing you'd do something about, you shouldn't have been able to learn them. If you were still mortal I might think you could learn them just because you wouldn't have time to do enough, but now that shouldn't explain it. The wording you asked for would be 'I swear that the visions I showed you all represent the truth as I understand it.'
"I swear that the visions I showed you all represent the truth as I understand it." The commentary's harder - none of what I said was false, but I was withholding enough - for the reasons I told you about, much of it is dangerous - that 'represent the truth as I understand it' might be a stretch. 'was true' will go through, 'was true and complete' won't, this is somewhere in between.
Did it happen to filter to you that I turn out to be the reincarnation of somebody who managed before dying around age twenty-four to invent the stork golems which retrieve a majority of surviving human babies from where they appear in the wilderness, because that's a thing.
I have a lot more context on - some precursors of the situation, specifically a succession dispute in Noldorin politics that ends up being violently resolved. I am worried that making it known to the parties that they'll someday settle their differences with swords will just spur them to invent swords sooner. What do you think I ought to do about that?
He did not strike me as a swords person, Kib remarks. Anyway, I can't offer much advice about what to do about that without knowing what 'that' is. All the politics here seems very tangled up in family ties that I've learned the vocabulary for but don't actually understand.
Probably not, you just have a really nice smile, Kib sighs. He sits. You don't actually feature in the visions at all. I got an oath that the commentary was true but only that, he said he was leaving out enough context that it might not go through otherwise; the visions themselves have the 'represent the truth' stamp of authenticity; and they are principally about Maitimo.
Commentary verified as true but incomplete is the time frame - more than a thousand of my years from now - that those Dwarves were friends of Maitimo's - and that he can't see your death but is confident you're dead by then. Commentary received after this oath was delivered includes that there's preceding Noldorin political context involving your uncle inventing swords.
He did not actually swear it was you, Kib says. The voice was the same too, and he swore to the truth of a statement to the effect that he would not have been able to share the contents with you; but it is technically possible that somebody wrote a whole lot of groundbreaking golem instructions on one of Nerdanel's sculptures of you and sent it off, except that wouldn't have been in the prophecy because I'm not in the plan.
On the other hand, there seems a sense in which it's easily avoided. So.
It's really hard for me to turn off my tendency to be flippant and what I'm left with when I manage it is often bland terseness, basically. I did not tell you about this so you would be very unhappy for a thousand years, that is not a satisfactory result, I did not show up all undestined just to derail fate so pathetically.
Hey.
Hey, Maitimo says. I have some ideas about what could have happened but none of them are very actionable.
In particular?
If I was someone's second in command, and they were set on this, and our people were set on this, and it was happening either way and the only question was whether I'd personally be guilty of it - I think I might do it. Try to minimize loss of life. That's why I asked to see it, see if that's a conceivable interpretation - but there's not enough, and it did not look like that was what was going on in the bits there were...
And you can trivially 'avoid your fate' by deciding to instead sit it out, but that saves no one and so knowing this changes nothing.
Yes. There are probably other situations like that but that's the one that came to mind.
They are miles from civilization; there are trees all around. Findekáno kisses him. He goes very still for it.
This isn't something you're doing wrong, Findekáno says. I'm sure people will see it that way, should you go kill lots of people and this is ever revealed, but that doesn't mean they'll be right.
Says you're dead.
Yeah.
Do you think I killed you?
I am very sure that if we met in Mandos I still loved you.
How in Arda can you be sure of that.
...don't know. But I am. I will do everything in my power to stop you and if I have to I will kill you and regardless I will love you.
Kib's ring of grace is finished.
Findekáno's cousin Artanis would like to talk to Kib.
"Artanis-"
"You can talk me down tomorrow I am going to kill him I am going to kill him-" and she breaks down sobbing, and there's a hand on her arm -
"We need them."
"Fuck that."
"They already -"
"How are you okay? Why are you okay with this? Do you even give a -"
"I am not okay I am terrified you need to stop saying things like that."
"Oh."
And then, over osanwë. He is going to do it again.
Are you sure?
As sure as I knew he'd do this. And if you'd trusted me -
And to Hresk.
Kib's strategy for finding someone who speaks the common is going around saying therein "Excuse me! Does anyone here speak the common!" until they find a dockworker kid about ten years old who's picked up a fair amount of it. The dockworker kid is happy to answer questions about the city of Hresk as long as he's paid for his time.
They do. He's ripping us off outrageously, not that it matters much, Kib remarks, and he starts inquiring about the conditions in the city. It seems to be a fairly standard human city with no slavery, a higher than average population of some religions, strong labor unions, and extremely fish-themed cuisine.
Labor unions are a little like guilds - like, this kid works a certain job, and everybody who works that job has agreed that they will stop doing it if something they agree they don't like happens, and that will grind certain city functions to a halt until the union and whoever's doing what they don't like come to an agreement. I do not expect you to have a problem with any existing unions but if you hire a lot of local labor here they might unionize and expect to be able to get what they want that way.
Well, I think I know when Maitimo's doomed brother dies, now. If it didn't seem to be out of step with their emotional repertoire I'd think they were picking and choosing scenes specifically to avoid telling me what they do that has Fëanáro so extra pissed off at them in fifty Years.
When and how does Maitimo's brother die? And how does any of this lead to Maitimo pillaging cities?
I don't have details on a 'how', but there was a scene where Maitimo and all his brothers were around except for that one so it seems like a good guess on when; Nerdanel thinks he dies in a fire and it's Fëanáro's fault but doesn't have any more information; I didn't see a fire, but - ugh. I don't know why Maitimo's pillaging cities exactly but I think it has something to do with the fucking shiny rocks.
I think the things that will help are things that are definitely worth doing even if he's going to be evil later - so the portal project comes to mind - and - people he need not fear wronging in that way. He is never going to talk either you or I into the things he apparently does. We are in that respect not seduceable.
Well. He can set up an instrument in his headquarters that allows reading thoughts osanwë has coded private - a necessary measure to protect peoples' children from being held hostage - and force an unreliable agent of his into a marriage with the threat of execution so he can take advantage of her new husband's ability to read her emotions at any distance.
Kib introduces the concept of the suicide bomb to get rid of the device - oaths can control thoughts just fine, right, if you swear them that way? possibly in a language you don't know? to get them past the mindreading long enough...? - and sneaks someone in to take advantage of that death-in-case-of-rape feature that Elves have and now the unreliable agent is a suborned widow.
The only one of these to genuinely rattle Maitimo is the oath; he stares at Kib in fascinated horror for a moment before saying, slowly, that yes oaths can control thoughts just fine and all his operatives should just swear to want whatever he wants them to want, shouldn't they, that would be efficient.
Uh, most obvously, a common thread in the visions is Fëanáro getting unstable, right? So he resolves to make some oath, and asks it of his children, because of course he would, and Maitimo thinks he can either get input on the wording by agreeing to take it or stay out of it and watch them all take a worse-worded version...
Possibly your mother too. She's been dreaming your father sets your youngest brother on fire. I haven't seen that nor do I have a guess about how or why, but I do have a scene right after everything's all dark in which he's conspicuously missing. Unconstrain. The. Circumstances.
If Tirion were constantly in paroxysms over which of two competing approaches would win, and then my father's preferred approach always won because of me, I think he'd be impressed. But instead, all approaches that end up getting seriously debated are ones that I approve of, and I tend to smooth out the paroxysms, and so politics just looks like people talking about perfectly reasonable disagreements.
"Oh, they seem sadistically designed in the standard case, and I say this as somebody whose dreams occasionally literally torture me, but I'm not in the plan and I can hear them from and relay them to anybody without interference, so I'm collecting them to see if they make more sense than misery all in a heap."
"Up until the part where you die, yep. Shiny rocks called Silmarils, distressing quantities of violence, I suspect the Valar were being provocative and just left that part out but you were definitely provoked and unlike them are architected to have any hope of understanding the concept of maybe not doing a thing you might be inclined to do. I was hoping to wait until I could go up to you and say something like 'look, N days after the X festival in forty-seven Years would you mind doing the following trivial somethingorother consider it a personal favor' but I don't think it's going to come together that clearly or simply, and if I didn't think the Valar left shame out of their emotional repertoire I'd think they were being deliberately evasive so they can blame the entire fiasco on" his voice goes syrupy and pious, "your rebellion against them and Eru," resume normal voice, "but this is what I have to work with. Shit goes down, you're in the middle of it with a sword."
"It is implausible that I'll get through all the Ages of Arda without ever doing anything that constitutes rebelling against Eru. I don't expect a sword to help particularly, and I expect if I had one I also had a reason. That doesn't mean the sword is the best possible means to whatever ends warranted it. We can try doing better."
"Sure, they come back after hanging out with Mandos having their brains worked over for however long it amuses him to hang onto them. You know what, I can think of such things too, but I bet it can be done better than stupid massacres over shiny rocks given forewarning, and what about Dwarves, do those come back. I saw somebody who looked a bit too short to be entirely an Elf in there too."
"I assume," he says to Maitimo, "you haven't decided to avert this by swearing not to sack any cities because you expect that there's something going on such that it came to this."
"Also we are really worried that oaths are what brought it about, somehow," he says.
"Someone takes you prisoner, tortures you - because that's what that looks like, to me - gets an oath -"
"Couldn't be done," Maitimo says, but a bit unsteadily. "I wouldn't-"
"If I were evil I'd erase the memory of swearing that, get another minor oath from them, and let it torture them forever," Maitimo says curtly. " I have been thinking a lot about this and don't see an obvious safe way."
"They're shiny? There's three? You acquire them at some point and wear them in a crown and it's very fetching and then when everything is dark for unclear reasons they could be used to restore light to the world and you don't turn them over for the purpose. They were a recurring theme in the subsequent unpleasant warfare."
I could make them impossible for anyone to wield or benefit from without my leave."
"It's in the very early stages of consideration," Fëanáro says. "Is it possible you killed all those people to get it back because it was needed to save many many more people?"
"I am really good at solving problems like that without swords, and don't seem to have been particularly effectual with them," he says. "I cannot imagine I'd try that."
"There are a lot of features of the nature of the Eldar that cannot truly work the way we're told they work. Marriage comes to mind. I think prophecy might be the same. I am sure it does something but I don't believe it does what everyone says, and if it does and there's nothing to be done about it, then it's best completely ignored."
"I'd really rather avert the war if at all possible, especially since it probably involves at least one evil Vala and those are just bad news. Although I'm not sure you can throw any number of humans at Valar to get them to act substantially differently so maybe you have a point."
"Well," says his father, "prevent that, would you? You spend all your time at it-"
"Not lately, I have been working on the portal project. Would you like me to reorder my priorities?"
"Yes. Keep everyone politically united so we can lead them off to war if needed."
His father looks at him as if he's really noticed for the first time that he's there. "You've always found people more interesting in the specific than in the general."
"Have I?"
"You finding Kib so delightful wouldn't be surprising, you finding general human society that fascinating would be a change of pace."
"I guess I've been thinking on a different scale."
"That's hardly fair," Maitimo says, "I have lots of things to command my attention -"
"And reasonably good taste," says his father, "so things that are a good use of your attention get it right away. I'm less confident in Tirion's populace. For example, less than a third of them have learned the common."
"That's not what I want for you."
"And not my fated path, apparently."
"I favor averting your fated path, but you at least didn't seem incompetent at it."
"You two," Nerdanel says, "need to say whatever you actually mean, this is ridiculous."
They stare at each other for a minute.
"I am upset with you," Maitimo says, "because I apparently commit terrible crimes and you apparently murder my brother and now you are making more and better desperately important Silmarils which perhaps some day I'll murder tens of thousands of innocents to retrieve and I am worried we've made fate pick up the pace instead of preventing it."
"I am upset," Fëanáro says, "because it seems I have fifty Years to figure out how to fight a Vala and that's not enough time and I'm worried if I'm not good enough you're going to end up tortured until we can only recognize you by the hair."
"There we go," Nerdanel says wearily.
"- um? It is in general horrifying when people are tortured and wind up probably mentally warped in some way such that they go on to massacre people, and in specific horrifying when it's Maitimo. I would like it to not happen and I'm working on it best I can. What are you looking for exactly here."
"I was aware he felt that way."
Nerdanel sighs. Again. "Fëanáro-"
"I don't care at all how you conduct yourself," Fëanáro says impatiently, "though I feel badly for raising children in Valinor who'd by exposure start taking the laws and dubious morals of our idiot gods seriously. And I love you. And you two should be less obvious there's a great deal at stake."
Kib and Maitimo walking down the path to the house, their postures changing as they come within view of people, the comfortable intimacy of the original poses mostly apparent when they change into tense ones. And a lot of Kib looking at Maitimo at all the moments he had wished he could squeeze his hand.
"I think you are not treating your happiness as sufficiently urgent," says his father. "I didn't bring it up to scold you, as I said you have good taste. It seems a complication well worth inviting."
"Only if you want me removed from power," Maitimo says, "which I know you do but I think you're wrong about that."
My decision to start a relationship with someone who wouldn't have had any practice at concealing one. You also don't need to look protective at me. My father doesn't really hurt my feelings. We just grate at each other like sandpaper if there's not a common cause in between us as a protective layer.
When I had interacted with you enough to conclude that I desperately desired you I could have offered you one of my brothers as a go-between and translator and offered you a place to live not in the palace and then avoided you entirely and been very demanding of Findekáno for a few years. It would have worked fine.
There's a lot you can do with the ability to erase memories; run a conversation a dozen times until it goes the way you want, get people cooperative by making them forget their reasons for hating you - can't generally get people to make oaths by torturing them, often can by torturing their loved ones...
...turn said loved ones against one by having somebody forget they exist and act in ways they do verifiably mean to but only without the restraining influences, drop people who think they're mid-crisis-situation on things that were not crises a moment ago, make them forget oaths they made and thread the needle between crippling them and steering them into risks they wouldn't take otherwise, solve PR disasters where they remain applicable with the wave of a hand...
"It sounds like you want us to get married," she remarks.
He blushes - he's so fucking cute - and stammers and: "I - that - is. ... Correct, actually. Um. Will you marry me?"
She can't resist a little speculative, "Hmmm -" And he's so nervous he's so adorably nervous, and she kisses him and says, "Yes."
And with that he beams, lifts her off her feet, spins her around, and oh the way he looks at her she never gets tired of the light in his eyes when he looks at her -
"Don't go, don't go -" He can't touch her, even if he places his hand on her head it'll bend her at the neck, touches her thigh it'll stretch the skin at her knee that last little intolerable bit, he hovers and almost smooths her hair, almost strokes her arm, but he can't hold her - "- I love you, you're too valuable, I love you, you're so strong and brilliant and please don't leave me I don't want to live without you please I'm sorry just stay with me I'll figure out a way to fix it, I just, I need more time, please don't go -" She's going faint, if she draws breath again she'll just expire of the pain outright, this is better, just - not - breathing. Oh her poor Aydanci careful even now not to cry on her. Oh she's so sorry - "I don't, I don't know what to say to make you keep fighting, I'm sorry, I'm selfish," oh honey, "you're irreplaceable if you won't live for yourself please live for me, live for the people you're brilliant enough to save, live for, for, I."
But she's not getting better.
"Honey," she breathes with a bit of air she didn't know she had, and she doesn't have to listen to him weeping any more -
They're on a beach, with a few friends, barefoot in the sand, laughing, and she loves him so much she's going to burst, and they kiss so long one of her co-prentices starts whooping -
- they have a tasteful, autumn wedding.
And privately, osanwë need not be directed at Kib, Maitimo says very dispersedly It would not be fair to mope at him but -
The existence of at least one human with good taste is not surprising.
I'm not surprised he - she - was fending off suitors left and right, I'm surprised that there's someone 'perfect' -
I, too, am very sad I cannot kiss him forever. If that's even the case. And very jealous of a random human. But.
I haven't said anything to Kib, have I?
If it were you -
I haven't said anything. I am not going to say anything. I am going to help him find his sort-of husband and I am going to be really upset if that's it.
Yup.
This is the stupidest dream timing ever. She was nineteen, on the beach - we were married for five years and I never got a single dream with him in except that one with the eclipse and it was maybe four minutes long and I didn't get it and pox dreams where I was too delirious to know who was looking after me -
And a few dozen Elves establish themselves in Hresk and Wrebb and set up restaurants and survey the area and go out riding and hunting and it's not too hard for Maitimo and Findekáno to slip away - and kiss walking down every street in the city, just for the novelty of it, once they're far from other Elves - and then find Kib.
He looks unaccustomed to smiling, but he attempts one anyway.
"Can I help you?"
"Um. Hello. My name's Akibel Mowar. I have an extremely implausible story and no idea how to start and if you don't believe me it's going to sound like a cruel joke, forgive me if I don't have a very elegant way around any of that please -"
That's when a magpie flies out of the house and lands on Kib's shoulder and starts eating his hair. "Stop that," Kib tells the magpie.
The magpie stops.
"Um. So a while ago I started having peculiar dreams which stick like memories and all take place before the stork dropped me and - there is no way to gracefully lead up to 'I am Aly reincarnated, but I don't remember everything yet', is there. But I didn't want to - wait until I remembered more, I thought you'd want to know."
"... I see," he says, sounding like he doesn't. "And - what parts of her life have you dreamed?"
"Random stuff. I didn't get anything much about you until very recently and then I got engagement and death and wedding in that order all in one night that was fun. Mostly childhood and I did get the eclipse before but only for a few minutes and I didn't put it together, I got enough to be halfway competent at speaking Harthanic which I have never learned this time around, I could probably replicate her scooter design, I know the three questions?"
"You think it -?" Blink. "Left wing up for a sec," he tells the magpie.
The magpie complies, then refolds its wing.
"That didn't even occur to me. I knew I - I knew she invented storks, I didn't think I'd be able to just yell one down and get it to show me who'd been making the new ones, I was waiting to dream it -"
"Therrrre was an unexplained snake monster with a mirror for a face and it put some people through its face and I was one of them and instead of digesting me like any self-respecting snake monster it transported me to an alternate universe. So far I am the only snake victim to find a way back. The tall pointy-eared people who accompanied me here are from the alternate universe."
Nod.
"Um, anyway, the place with the tall pointy-eared people, who are Elves, also has legit actually-walk-up-and-meet-them deities, who are Valar, and the Valar can transport people to and fro. And one of them was kind enough to slow down my aging by a factor of a thousand while an Elf engineer works on a more permanent immortality solution. So. That's a thing. We could bring you back long enough to get factor-of-a-thousand-ed if you want."
"...It's mostly a pretty nice place. I moved in. The Elves can't servantmake, they're very prosocially inclined, they don't have material scarcity - uh, you should bring the stork design, I don't have it yet and wouldn't have it perfectly memorized anyway - they can do the chassis and etching parts and I'll just wake the storks, uh, and tell the storks to drop off money the Elves are accumulating off at creches so they can handle the increased volume..."
He goes to the closet, and retrieves a box. The box goes Kib-ward.
Inside, neatly stack and wrapped in paper, are Aly's notebooks.
"They're likely out of order," he asserts. "I didn't - go through them to date them, or anything."
The organizational system is almost like the one he uses anyway, and he remembers some of her notebooking anyway -
Eventually: "Well, there's one awkward question I don't have to ask you."
"Iiiiiit's complicated. Um. I still have really limited dream content about you, like, it was very choice but there's not much of it and it was all a while ago, but while I am currently abstaining from working out a definitive answer to the question of whether I'm currently in love with you it would probably take a heroic self-hacking effort not to wind up that way inside of a month, two, Aly was crazy about you, so the question is should I put that effort in or - not. Ffffurther complicating this is that while I did not remember you I sort of... uh, the Elves waiting outside, um."
"...Further complicating the entire matter is that I live in Elfland now, 's called Valinor, and Valinor is fucked up about gay people because something something religion Elves breed like animals it's weird? I have no idea if we'd get a pass for my having been Aly when we got married? If we didn't then I couldn't, like, explain you, there, we'd have to live here or go around telling everybody 'oh no this is Aly's friend'."
"I'm not super good at being convincing either. It's possible we'd get a pass on the Aly technicality. Iiiiin which case I am very tempted to bring you to Valinor and have a house and go around being as obnoxiously publicly married as physically possible so that no one who has ever met us can continue to think of everybody being straight as an exceptionless rule."
"Theeeee Elves are being very nice about their boyfriend waking up one morning suddenly remembering being married and have not been overwhelmingly specific about their other opinions besides that of course I ought to go find you at once. They do have names but you absolutely cannot tell anybody in Valinor that they are gay or involved or anything, I already made statements of moderately public ignorance but they're in very thorough hiding, will this subterfuge get harder if you know more things about them and can react to their names in conversation or anything?"
"No," he decides. "I imagine now that I've seen their faces, I'd get everything else if I spent any amount of time around them at all. Which I expect I will, if I go live in Valinor with you. ... Or I'd notice how conspicuous and strange it is that these specific people avoid me."
"We don't have to live in the same city as them?" Kib says. "Keeping it hush-hush is directly correlated with their ability to get divine favors and political whatnots - and also the whole breeding thing means they have these complicated social structures around that and those structures would go haywire with the information and this would also be bad."
"I haven't had to directly lie to anybody," Kib says, "people don't ask, not unless they already know way too much. Inscrutable should be fine, especially if you are better than I am at restraining the impulse to sarcasm. The redhead is Maitimo, other one's Findekáno. They are both important in Valinor for breeding-related-social-structure reasons and Maitimo in particular also for reasons of overwhelming talent."
"Well, mercifully, unlike animals they only reproduce on purpose. So that's a significant thing, deciding to create a person, and it also comes with responsibility for the new person's upbringing - also it is I think invariably married couples co-creating children because Elves do marriage weirdly - anyway, they have strong slightly confusing social ties between parents and children, and co-children of the same parents, and to difficult-to-track extents with anybody else you can draw a line to on a map of marriages and child-creatings? They're important because they are both the children of different children of the king. It's weird."
"We can invite them in. Even odds they've actually been able to hear this entire exchange actually, Elves have really good hearing surpassed only by their stupidly good vision. Iiii should have told you that earlier, sorry." Kib goes to lean out the door and motion Elves in.
"A pleasure to meet you both, as well." And now he does not know what to say! 'You have good taste in at least one boyfriend'? There is no way he could possibly say that, ever.
The Elves look at each other. "There are a lot of cultural differences between our peoples," Maitimo says after a while, "but among Elves marriage is - it takes precedence over everything. And if Kib didn't want that I'd be inclined to ignore it but Kib is obviously hoping you'll embrace him as your long lost love and spend the next several days doing nothing but kissing him and telling him how perfect he is, so it seems like we should enable that, and later compose sad songs that we cannot sing in public- that's the general Elf fallback -"
"I am quite happy to embrace Kib as my long lost love after some adjustment," he says, with kissing and compliments both, "but I'm - unfortunately quite familiar with having someone I love torn from me out of nowhere. If perhaps under very different circumstances. I don't particularly want to inflict it on the - both? was my understanding? - of you for no other crime than having good taste. The world's cruel enough without adding to it because it's tidier."
"Even though we don't do weird soul graft marriage?" Aside: "Elves do weird soul graft marriage. Interfaces with them being telepathic. You will want to learn to mark thoughts private if you are going to be around Elves who have not been warned to be polite about reading untrained people's minds."
He constrains himself to an eyebrow quirk and the hint of a smile.
They look at each other a bit confusedly. "We have the currency to give the proprietor," Findekano says. "I can't think we'd have problems? They will probably want us to give them more of the currency then they'd want if we weren't obviously aliens, but I'm not sure that's worth avoiding, it's not as if we need the currency..."
"Melkor slowed me down but couldn't stop me," Kib says, "I would be disappointed but not stunned if reversal were more like the latter than the former."
Yes.
Are you jealous?
Yes.
That's kind of ridiculous, you know.
Yes.
Are you still sad you ever kissed him?
No.
There is absolutely nothing to mope about. We booked a honeymoon suite and no one even blinked.
I know.
Maitimo how are you so good at people while being such a child -
And Maitimo shuts him up, at that point.
"Well, I don't consider it proportional, just the best I could accomplish with the resources available. If it were proportional I would have resurrected you immediately, eradicated the Pox, followed by every other disease on the planet. Then, for the crime of briefly inconveniencing you, I would have just gone and solved death entirely for everyone everywhere, so no one would have anyone stolen from them. ... Oh, and yes, you can kiss me now."
"I still do that, random nouns and all, but if I'm having an emotional or, uh, painful, dream, tone of voice changes. I am pretty sure I will wind up going through her entire life exactly once - no repeats so far, no sign of the dreams slowing down - so it doesn't strictly help in the long run to wake me up if I start yelling, but if it bothers you, you can."
"I don't want to disrupt your sleep or upset you! But I don't think I can avoid them, so getting them over with - and in particular not selectively waking me up only when its those and risking me eventually having no memories to recover except the aborted stuff about the pox so I'm guaranteed a night of that every time I go to sleep - seems best if you can live with it."
She's scootering to her favorite restaurant -
She can't move her arms anymore, she's letting him feed her broth, it's hard to swallow while lying on her back but he'll get so worried if she doesn't eat -
"I have some notes on updated medical golem instructions that should be at some kind of stopping point before being sent out. Not necessarily finished, just - it should make sense to people that aren't me. And then making sure my bills are paid in advance and that there isn't any food that will spoil while I'm gone, so on."
But! They cannot be distracted yet, they have a deadline. Margins are added, and then it is in a state where it's fine to be copied and mailed out by a golem that is made for disseminating this specific type of information.
And then Aydanci pops out to make sure all bills are pre-paid and then he has to quickly pack, but as promised, he's ready to go in four hours.
And on the way Kib can explain more Elf and Valinor facts to Aydanci. Family stuff and telepathy stuff and the time effect in Valinor ("if you have a clock around and remember to use it, it's plenty compensated for by needing less sleep, I think") and Valar stuff and the perpetually bright Trees and the planet being flat and how there is one other human there. And they should pick up some laundry automata before they go back through the portal.
Otherwise, Valinor sounds nice. If occasionally culturally unfortunate, though he doesn't say that part out loud because he has an iota of social grace.
Maitimo makes a neutral noise.
"...okay, interest in politicizing your storks which wouldn't cause us to actually do it."
"I'm not necessarily opposed to politicizing storks eventually in some very carefully-considered way. I was mostly thinking 'gosh, I wouldn't like to be kidnapped and compelled to drive out religious minorities', not, 'gosh, I have really strong principles about the nonpolitical status of storks and definitely can't use them to pressure political units to stamp out slavery etcetera even if I could do it from the safety of another universe'."
"You have to relive the moments where you were not okay in their entirety," says Aydanci. "And - I - was not okay. Am still not, really, I'm greatly improved now that you're - back, but being on the road to recovery is not recovered. I - don't think I can joke or even really be flippant about this subject, apologies."
I am planning to be flagrantly ostentatiously publicly sickeningly married. We will be very discreet by comparison, no one will be able to imagine I could go two seconds without gushing about anyone I was with. "I have a room in the basement," he tells Aydanci, "it's nice and dark."
Would anybody like to know what Kib looked like when he was a girl? Here is what Kib looked like when he was a girl. Does that help.
Aydanci and Kib breakfast together in the basement room and then Kib ferries Aydanci some reading material and ventures out. Does he need to talk to any Valar? (Does Aydanci need to talk to any Valar? He doesn't really want to go wandering about unnecessarily; people stare at him and he was disconcerted by the mindreading incident.) Do people have more intrusive personal questions so that Kib can practice the virtue of not being scathing at them?
"I noticed Aly had to have been real when I encountered a real book in Harthanic and its alphabet and grammar were familiar to me. Since we had the same personality and I was inheriting her memories it seemed reasonable to adopt her identity as continuous with mine. Later, I dreamed about Aydanci who had been all but omitted from previous dreams, and was able to find him at home in Lapis based on memory alone. I told him I was Aly reincarnated; it turned out that even her pet magpie answers to me like I'm her, apparently servants' identification of servantmakers is not interrupted by reincarnation. He verified my identity to his satisfaction and was very relieved that his spouse was not permanently lost to him after all; he'd never really recovered from my death."
Well, Aly was a girl. Kib is a boy. Sometimes this confuses him too but that is definitely what's going on. Fortunately ~his wonderful husband~ has the convenient feature of being interested in people by personality rather than shape! He would probably have taken Kib back even if Kib were a genderless mushroom being of some kind! His husband is so great.
It's true, humans don't have children, and Kib does not even want to go abscond with a baby, even though he could totally interrupt a stork to do that since he invented them. But maybe one day he and Aydanci will teach servantmaking. That's a thing human married couples do is co-teach.
Frankly if one is going to wonder what Eru was thinking about anything to do with Kib's world there are places Kib would start before getting to that one. Like, sure, it was very romantic that ~Kib's wonderful husband~ eradicated a disease for him but the disease had to exist in the first place for him to do that and it sucked.
And yes, diseases seem terrible and all of them shall be eradicated. Thinking something is romantic does not mean that the premises shouldn't be scrubbed from the earth. There are beautiful tragedies set at Cuivienen but the Elves left Cuivienen for somewhere where no one ever died, now didn't they?
Este is the Vala of healing, and Lorien of dreams but he does a fair bit of healing too, and the place is enchanted to be - whatever you want it to be. If you think it'd be nice if it were cooler and shadier, it is. If you think it'd be nice if the water had bubbles and foam to play in, well, now it does, if you want the trees to just direct everyone away from the two of you they do that... if there's a food you like, the leaves can be asked to taste like it...
Sort of between the two. I think he has spent the last couple decades in such a pit of agony about thinking I was gone forever that now that I am back inconveniencing me is unthinkable. I do not think it would improve the situation if I inconvenienced myself on his behalf in any substantial way. He gets weepy when I make him tea. That having been said if I do break up with you and/or Findekáno at some point I am not planning to acquire any replacement boyfriends.
Oh yeah. I told him ending the pox seemed like a reasonable proportionate response to me and he went on a rant about how, no, if it were that he would have resurrected me immediately and then eradicated all of the diseases and then also death itself for briefly inconveniencing his spouse.
Everyone is extremely charmed by Kib's distaste for babies. They're mostly talking about the restaurants, which are newly off the ground, and attracting lots of attention none of which has yet been disastrous. How long does Kib think they should wait before announcing they are portal aliens who plan on ending death?
"Anywhere in there is probably good! I am happy with eighteen but I don't know exactly what I'd look like at twenty-two or whatever, maybe I would have liked that better if I'd decided to wait and see. If anybody comes up with a way to roll my husband back I'm pushing for twenty."
"The scriber is done, and I've been mostly catching up on non-work things - I always take a lot of notes about my life and reading those is faster than waiting to dream all my memories and Aydanci saved all the notebooks, so I have them to go through. But I've been teaching people to help make medical golems, and storks. We'll need a lot of storks once the money starts coming in to help the creches take care of all the extra babies."
"I don't know all the possible places babies appear but as far as I know they don't appear in the ocean or anything like that. Enough storks will make a huge dent but it wouldn't help if a baby appeared somewhere there was about to be a rockslide or something. I think they all cry sooner or later."
"Some people like babies," Kib says. "I don't think everybody in a creche is working there solely because they will otherwise starve. Besides, if you end scarcity servantmakers can make golems to do all the more tedious parts of looking after the kids and there will only be the parts that people find especially appealing like reading them bedtime stories and stuff left over."
Yes! I didn't remember! I got my dreams in a really irritating order. The only ones I had after I met Aydanci, let alone married him, had him not present or on Aly's mind at the time, or else I was slightly too poxy to string thoughts together, and I had like five minutes of watching an eclipse talking about co-teaching but without context he could've been just a friend.
Aydanci will not be served by my trying to compromise what I want for his obsolete abstract interests, his priorities as they stand now have 'is my spouse alive and happy' in the first forty slots. If Maitimo doesn't like sharing he is free to dump me, I won't make a fuss or publicly mope or anything.
"Well I think at least a few of my children are at some point going to marry. And no one in Valinor dies. And the Silmarils are sufficiently dangerous that having them in arbitrary hands might not be an improvement over them ceasing to function. Also, it gives any enemy with the capacity to kill my family the incentive not to."
I think he thinks that regard won by being likable is - worse than worthless. He tells people the story about his mother being forced to stay dead so his father could remarry, you know, and he tells it so emotionlessly, and he'd get the reaction he wants from more people if he sounded sad but I think what he's curious about is what they think of the information when their cues to instead play social games are stripped away.