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blai in book 11 of asftv
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The year is almost 810 by Valdemar’s calendar, and Haven is preparing for war.  

This morning in particular, though, Haven is also preparing for an ice festival! The sun is just starting to rise, in (thanks to candlemarks of fiddly weather-working the night before) a perfectly clear sky. The Heralds stationed in Haven and the Guard are out in force, setting up a perimeter – it’s a risk to have the monarchs of two kingdoms out in public, surrounded by thousands of people – but the atmosphere is festive. Four of the Baires mages are out and helping set up the checkpoints, where they can run their their mage-sight over every single entrant to look for dangerous artifacts while the Guards search them for mundane weapons. Knots of servants and blue-glad Guards are exchanging banter and laughing as they work on sweeping the river-ice clear, and local street-vendors cheerfully join in as they set up their stalls and carry in their wares. 

Outside the perimeter, in the city proper, nearly every room in every inn is packed full. The festival was announced on the Mindspeech relay a fortnight earlier, and (with the help of some distance-casting through the Web as well as non-magical efforts) the roads are clear of snow enough for travel into the capital. 

All eight active Herald-Mages are already awake and already keeping half an eye on the Web. Any unexpected discharge of magic will be detected in seconds.

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WHAT WAS THAT. 

 

(Savil is still in her quarters, getting dressed. This doesn't preclude being in contact with the Web but it does mean she wasn't entirely paying attention.) 

 

:Van did you feel that: 

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Vanyel is in the Web-room, putting in some final touches to make sure the weather will stay perfect all day. 

 

:- oh, you felt it too? I - have no idea, honestly - wasn't an attack or a Gate - I'm trying to pin down the source -: 

 

After a few more seconds he's fairly sure it came from right around there, in a random patch of orchard near the bank of the river, technically within the guarded festival perimeter being set up but not actually in use or occupied right now. Or at least it wasn't twenty minutes ago when he did his last pass over the area.

Being in the Web-room lets him easily reach out with his Gifts. Is there a mind there? 

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Yes, though it's weirdly - harder than an unshielded mind while not being as hard as a fully shielded one, to get a look at? The person there is a man in chainmail with a backpack on his back and a mace at his hip looking around in bewilderment while he takes tentative steps downstream.

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Vanyel also has his Farsight on the location as soon as he's able to sense that there's a mind there at all. 

 

- Well that's deeply alarming!!!! 

Vanyel bounces the image to Savil immediately. :Raise an alarm: he sends tersely, before focusing fully on the scene.

It's - honestly bizarre that the man isn't fully shielded? Enough that Vanyel hesitates for a moment, suspicious of some kind of trick, and then focuses with his mage-sight first to try to sense any artifacts (especially anything that might be reminiscent of a Leareth-made talisman) before boosting his Thoughtsensing to push through the not-shields. 

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The armor's magic and the mace is magic. Nothing else on him is.

Thoughts:

What the SHIT was that monster. Was it a regular monster or was it an outsider of some kind intended to disrupt the Constitutional Convention. If there's some major power interfering with the convention probably the archmages will notice but if it's just him there's no way they will. This looks like the material plane but WHAT IF it is actually a locally stable bit of Maelstrom. It's cold and he has an Endure Elements but he has it because he was planning to walk in the summer wearing his mail because it doesn't slow him down any less if he puts it in his bag! What if he has forgotten how Endure Elements works since yesterday and one prepped with summer in mind won't work in the cold - why is he such a dumbass, he has NOT forgotten how it works since yesterday - Guidance, spent instantly on figuring out where he is, and it doesn't work at all - the place looks inhabited and he doesn't have a Share Language or even a Comprehend Language today, because he's a dumbass and was ready for bandits and goblins and not for the specific kind of monster that Plane Shifts you to the Maelstrom. He's never even HEARD of plane shift snakes. What if they're actually all over the place in Menador and there is a spell he was supposed to know about that deals with them at second circle no problem and he slept through it that one time he fell asleep in class, if he missed something that important when he fell asleep in class it was completely within Vicar Rey's rights to torture him about it though it would have been more generous to let him make up the work afterward so he'd know about the Menadorian Plane Shift Dire Snake Thing. Why can't he focus. Should he cast his Endure Elements? What if he needs it to swap out for healing, he's not THAT cold since he does have the mail and all its padding. What if the people he is now approaching mug him for all his stuff and then he doesn't have the Acts of Iomedae! He's only read it all the way through once! He will forget something important and do something evil by accident and fall and freeze to death probably! If he casts the Endure Elements will this let him stop worrying about freezing to death, no, absolutely not, he's not worried about freezing today, he's worried about doing it after accidentally doing an evil act and not having spells any more, which is the wrong thing to worry about, he should be worrying about the possible evil acts he could do instead, only the ones he could do by accident aren't going to be really obvious like murdering somebody, it's going to be some confusing point about something weird, he was GOING to meet with a catechism teacher in Westcrown and that's certainly not happening now unless an archmage shows up. Which they probably won't but what if they did and then they were mad at him for being eaten by a Menadorian Plane Shift Dire Snake Thing. Archmages probably NEVER get eaten by those. Archmages kill the tarrasque and close the entire Worldwound and if they have to bother about Blai specifically for any reason they will think he's pathetic and he will make Iomedae look bad and then he will wake up without spells again when She gets ticked off about that and THEN he'll freeze to death. Oh gods he has to figure out how to try to talk to the people. Is he doing anything threatening looking? Hands well away from the weapon and not in casting position - Guidance - okay NOW not in casting position, but what if they think it's threatening that he's going around armed at all, or like, just that he showed up uninvited, which was really very rude of him, why did he do something so rude, if he only hadn't fallen asleep in class that one time he would have known ALL about the Menadorian Plane Shift Dire Snake Thing. He hopes one of them has a Comprehend Languages even though he hates being the one getting Comprehended because you have to just keep thinking of things to say continuously on very little feedback. Probably none of them have it because they like him expected to be among their own people who already speak whatever they speak in this part of the Material and/or Maelstrom. Maybe he will get lucky and there will be a wizard with a slot free though, or they're already doing some kind of diplomatic something - no actually that would be TERRIBLE if he has landed in the middle of a diplomatic something, he does not in any way know how to not make that worse -

(This all goes by very fast and none of it keeps the man from walking calmly and politely toward the nearest visible group of people with his hands away from his weapon and not in "casting position").

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(Despite the speed, Vanyel picks up on a little more of that than he might have otherwise, since it's - well, his mind certainly does that sometimes.) 

 

Oh no this poor man, is Vanyel's first instinctive thought, quickly pushed aside. His second almost-as-instinctive thought is that he cannot IMAGINE that this person is working for Leareth. And not just because none of his thoughts are about how he's on a secret mission for a mysterious powerful mage in the north. 

- catch onto that thought, remind himself that he really shouldn't be that sure. Maybe Leareth can use compulsions to make someone think they have no idea what's going on. ...Though he can't say this is Leareth's style, especially not when Leareth could surely have waited a few candlemarks and sent someone in with the ice festival crowds. Admittedly not with enchanted weapons or armor, so maybe those are important? They're certainly INCREDIBLY SUSPICIOUS - from what he can sense at a distance, the style isn't exactly reminiscent of Leareth's work, but is instead totally unfamiliar -  

- what could the goal possibly be – even apart from uncharacteristic-for-Leareth lack of any subtlety, that's what he can't figure out - 


(Vanyel is mostly too distracted to focus on the content of the man's thoughts, which in any case he picked up less of than the the general confusion and anxiety, but what he can pick up on doesn't make any sense EITHER...) 

 

Focus. 

He reaches for Savil's mind again. :He doesn't know where he is or how he got here - he's focused on avoiding a fight - can we get someone out to intercept him before one of the Guards overreacts, I don't think this goes better if we're the ones to start a fight...: 

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:On it: 

 

Kilchas and Sandra are in their rooms and neither is in any shape to respond to an emergency, but the other four Herald-Mages – Nani and Tamara, and Katri and Nubia – are already up and active, working with the rest of the Heralds on site-security duty. Katri is the only one positioned nearby enough to have a chance of intercepting the stranger in the next minute or two. It would be nice if the first person to confront this incredibly suspicious man were Adept-potential, but she's both not sure yet that it warrants an emergency Gate, and also aware that if the man is hostile, a mage Gating in would be making themselves particularly vulnerable... 

Katri is a Mindspeaker and Empath, which might be useful. 

:Go: she sends. :Try not to escalate, we don't know what's going on, but - be on your guard: 

And to Vanyel, :Stay put, I think. Relay to Katri if you notice anything she should know. - I'll make sure Dara's up to date, she can brief Randi -: 

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Katri was really looking forward to a party and this is a sudden and jarring mood shift, but she's on Companion-back and can reach the spot Vanyel is bouncing to her within another thirty seconds, before the mysterious man actually reaches the nearest huddle of Guards. 

 

Blai will see a young woman - who doesn't look particularly Chelish - dressed entirely in white, riding a horse which is also completely white and has oddly large and forward-facing blue eyes. The young woman isn't obviously armed, though she certainly could be carrying weapons under her voluminous white cloak. Like him, she's holding her hands out, relaxed (or as close to it as she can manage) and visibly empty. 

"Do you speak Valdemaran?" she tries, might as well start with that first.  

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Time to do the "do you speak any of these languages" dance. "I don't know what you just said to me. I speak Chelish, and also Common Taldane, and also Infernal." He changes languages at each comma and kind of expects anyone who recognizes Infernal to be judgmental that he speaks it but he can't just leave it out.

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Katri does not recognize any of those languages! 

...She's inclined to agree with Vanyel's initial impression that this man did not intend to come here on any kind of mission and definitely doesn't want a fight. (Her Empathy is wide open even though what she can pick up, so far, isn't exactly comfortable to be bathed in.) 

:Sorry, I don't think I speak your language: she sends. (She's not reading his mind; it seems a lot ruder to do it face to face, somehow, and she's also not nearly as strong a Thoughtsenser as Vanyel.) :Can you understand me like this? Er, you're in Valdemar right now.: 

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Vanyel, safely ensconced in the Web-room, is absolutely still reading the man's mind. It seems likely to be informative. 

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Whoa, did she just Telepathic bond him? ...did she just Still, Silent Telepathic Bond him? That's fifth circle even without the metamagic, though if you happen to have that prepared and no slots for anything cheaper that makes sense if it's very urgent to find out who he is and what he's doing here and they didn't want to just gesture him to someplace he could sit and wait for dawn in. IS HIS HOLY SYMBOL CLEARLY VISIBLE oh good it is. Is he going to have to figure out how to compensate her for a fifth or perhaps seventh circle spell. He doesn't have any money on him because the money was all Evil. Hopefully he can sell spells? He has nothing else to sell and what if there's a local norm of Good clerics not charging for any of their spells, then what - if the archmage shows up and finds that Blai has been indentured over this or something and Blai needs to beg a fifth or possibly seventh circle spell's cost off him he's going to be SO irritated -

:I can understand you. I don't know where Valdemar is. I was in Cheliax, which is a country in the continent of Avistan.:

Should he specify the planet. He's not sure he's on his planet, but if he is, it might seem rude to specify? Like it would signify that this wizardess was too alien to be recognizably Golarionite even though she's obviously a human and that is... probably at least mostly a horse... and the spell is... well he's never had a Telepathic Bond on him before so maybe it doesn't feel like anything but wow it really doesn't feel like anything. Unless it's that itch in his ear. Which he is not going to scratch because he's still doing the hands-in-nonthreatening-position thing. What if a bug has climbed into his ear to lay eggs there. It's probably too cold here for bugs. But not for DIRE bugs. But those probably wouldn't fit in his ear. Only probably though. He should specify the planet actually, he doesn't want to be rude but he thinks he's probably just imagining that it might be rude and actually it would be fine in a situation this weird featuring Menadorian Plane Shift Dire Snake Things.

:Which is on the planet Golarion: he adds.

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This is somehow still getting more and more baffling! In a fascinating way - the man seems to be thinking about the existence of a very advanced mage-technique to imitate Mindspeech, except that the way he's thinking about it hints that he doesn't know Mindspeech exists, what - something feels off about how the man is thinking about magic, Vanyel kind of suspects he's missing something important, but the thoughts are going by very fast and he's not managing to pin it down. 

(- "because the money was all evil", what does that even mean, Vanyel's first wild guess is money earned through, what, taking unethical mercenary contracts, but that somehow doesn't ring true with the rest -) 

- should he specify the planet???? 


...Aaaand he specified, and Vanyel has certainly never heard of anywhere that calls the world 'Golarion'. Or of a country called Cheliax or a continent called Avistan. He wishes he could ask Leareth if this isn't Leareth's doing, then Leareth should definitely not be given any hints whatsoever about it, and in any case they haven't spoken in - almost two months, actually, it hadn't really sunk in how long it's been... 

Vanyel doesn't relay anything to Katri yet because he has no idea where he would start. 

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Um. 

:I don't know of anyone calling our world Golarion: Katri sends. :But, er, I also don't know of there being other worlds with humans and mages. ...We sensed magic when you, um, arrived here, but it wasn't a Gate. Do you know what it was?: She's not at all sure this is the most important first question to be asking but she's not managing to think of a better one. 

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:There was a monster with a mirrorlike apparently portal-esque apparatus instead of a face. The rest of it looked like a giant snake. I am not familiar with the monster species.: Because he slept through that class probably and absolutely deserved the entire business with all the broken joints et cetera for it probably except for how, remember, he made that up, and might have actually slept through something else equally embarrassing to not know, maybe the portalsnakes are a new project of Manohar's or something, may Hell be denied a soldier. Should he be praying more. He isn't sure if it's expensive but it can't be VERY expensive or they'd have mentioned that in the letter next to the note about Communes, which they did think to mention without even first knowing whether he was high enough circle for that. Iomedae, here I am, I will continue to do my best for You in the complete absence of additional feedback but thought You might like a look at the place, please forgive me if I am distracting You from important things. What if it was in fact in the letter next to the Communes and he just forgot! What if She dropped something that actually mattered over that! No it can't POSSIBLY be that expensive. EVERY religion encourages prayer and some of them would have a policy of telling people to shut up and leave their gods alone if it were that bad. It is at most a little tiny bit expensive. It was NOT in the letter stop being dumb. What if he re-read the letter though. It's in his bag. His ear has stopped itching but he's still going to slowly lower the not-on-the-side-with-his-mace hand to see if the wizardess is okay with that so he can go back to casting Guidance a lot maybe soon.

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Katri is not particularly going off body language to gauge the man's intentions, and doesn't react to him lowering his hand. She's mostly picking up that the poor man is incredibly anxious and - seems to be constantly expecting that he's about to get in trouble for breaking some kind of rule by accident? That's definitely the flavor there, and not fear of, you know, getting caught doing something definitely nefarious on purpose. 

:- We're not going to hurt you: she sends after a moment, because maybe that will help. :I'm not familiar with that monster species either.: It sounds like it could be something out of the Pelagirs? Maybe? 

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Savil reaches out to Vanyel with a Mindtouch. :Dara wants a report. Do you have anything.: 

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:Um. He - seems to think he might be from another world? Which would - actually explain a lot, if it wasn't impossible, everything else I've picked up from him is incredibly weird. He thinks he got here after he ran into a monster with a - something like a Gate for a face? ...He just started praying to the god he follows, in a - really strange way - I'm pretty sure it's not the Star-Eyed but I almost wonder if it's a different god or goddess who has a pact with his people, whoever they are.: 

Also his thoughts are constantly going in anxiety-spirals to an extent that's frankly exhausting to try to follow. Was he ever that bad??? 

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:You absolutely were that bad.: 

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Mental nudge. :Any advice for what we should do about him?: 

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Vanyel has no idea! This is so incredibly out of context, and deeply suspicious but not in a way that points at how to be usefully paranoid. 

 

:Um. I think we should invite him inside somewhere warm - and not too close to the main palace, preferably - and ask some more questions. And - wait, one moment -: 

 

He reaches for Katri again. :Can you sense any compulsions on him.: Vanyel can't, but mage-sight at a distance is a lot blurrier, even with the aid of the Web, and compulsions are very low-power. 

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Not that she's noticed so far but she wasn't looking for that specifically! She'll have a closer peek with mage-sight. 

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His Ant Haul hasn't worn off yet; he cast it when he set out to get through a few hours of walking at a full league per hour even with the armor and the bag. The mace is magic, the armor is magic. That's it.

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Katri has absolutely no idea what that is but she's pretty sure it's not a compulsion, and relays this to Vanyel. 

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Right. 

Well, either this man is exactly what he seems to be - and what he seems to be makes no sense whatsoever - or he's some kind of plot. If it's a plot then - well, it might be possible to use Mindhealing to twist someone's head around enough that they genuinely thought they were from another planet. It's still not at all obvious what the goal of the plot would be, but of course Leareth - and Vanyel can't think who other than Leareth could pull something like this off - wouldn't want it to be, so that's not actually surprising. 

:I think we should have one of the Mindhealers have a look at him. ...I'd actually prefer Jisa, given her - more varied experience - but I'm worried about putting her at risk.: Though it's probably not exactly what Leareth was steering them toward, Leareth doesn't - or shouldn't - know anything about Jisa's mage-gift, or her lifebond. :- If we put him in the nearest Work Room, those aren't actually shielded against Mindhealing.: As all of them learned a few years ago. :She can have a look without him knowing.: 

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:Right. I can pass that along. ...Should we get Randi and Karis out of the city, do you think? Just in case?: 

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:Just in case of what?: Vanyel sighs. :I have no idea. I suppose if he's a mage, he could Final Strike - Jisa can check that, too -: He closes his eyes and pinches the bridge of his nose. :I have no idea. I don't know what we're looking at here. It - smells like a trap, but I don't know what the trap part could possibly be. I think - make sure they're behind shields, and be ready to evacuate, but having them out of the city reduces our options too -: 

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:All right.: 

Savil can pass this on to Katri. The nearest Work Room is outside the guarded perimeter, but only about a ten-minute walk. 

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Katri is still trying to gauge if her attempt at reassurance is helping at all. It's been less than thirty seconds. 

She smiles at the man, as soothingly as she can manage, and will maybe project reassurance a little too (not too hard, she's worried that in itself might spook him). :Why don't we go inside somewhere warmer before we, er, ask you more questions to try to get this figured out.: 

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Reassuring him does not help at all. He's not being anxious at her, it's just happening. Constantly. The content is responsive to what's going on but the amount really is not. She can cause the content to refresh itself unusually quickly if she pushes on it? What if he tracks mud indoors, why did he never get good at Prestidigitation. Is he underdressed. What was that in the corner of his eye, just a squirrel? His hardboiled egg and his roll are going to expire in his bag if he doesn't eat them in the next twenty minutes or so and he can cast another Create Food and Water today and won't go importantly hungry without the bit saved from last night, but what a waste to let any of it shrivel up into nothing. Was his most recent chess game with Grec really fun enough, is there any objective way to be sure. What if the Worldwound isn't really closed and opens up again for no reason like a partially healed cut that prematurely loses its scab. If they try to send him back to Golarion will they accidentally drop him in the ocean and is that a good reason to take his armor off first or is that just asking for a monster ambush.

:Of course, where would you like me to go?:

(It doesn't occur to him at all that someone might be subtly influencing his emotions and only those; if that's a thing in his world it's not subtle or not emotion specific.)

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Katri isn't reading his mind and can't particularly tell if the content is changing over faster, just that it's not really helping with his affect. She'll stop trying, in that case, she already has a lot to juggle and this poor man's anxiety levels are not really the top priority to address here. 

:Follow me.: 

She's trying not to appear at all on-edge, they really don't need more of that bouncing around, but she can tell that Savil is alarmed and stressed and it's hard to hide it entirely. 

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The man's thoughts continue to be disorienting and exhausting to follow, even if Vanyel can sympathize rather a lot with someone worrying about petty concerns like making a mess even when there are VASTLY bigger concerns that ought to dominate. 

...He's worrying about the food in his bag doing WHAT???

...He's worrying about the WHAT reopening????????

 

Nevermind. Focus. This man's thoughts are definitely full of tantalizingly baffling details that could conceivably have been put there by a clever Mindhealer to distract the Heralds from whatever he's really here for. Vanyel...isn't sure he really believes that could be what's happening here...but it would be stupid not to check. 

He doesn't relay any of it to Katri. She definitely doesn't need the distraction. 

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Katri doesn't try to make conversation while they walk. (She does notice that the man seems to be extremely fit; he's having a lot less difficulty moving at a decent pace through snow while wearing a pack than she would.) 

They arrive at a clearly temporary and hastily-erected fence, and walk along it for a bit before reaching the nearest checkpoint. Katri waves to the Guards and very young Herald stationed there, to indicate that everything is fine, even though she's not at all sure that everything is fine. 

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Is his holy symbol still clearly visible? ...not that anyone seems to recognize it, but if they did it would be important. He follows Katri, though not before looking at everybody they're going past to make sure that's also okay with them, he doesn't know if these people have any intrafactional issues and certainly doesn't want to exacerbate them if they have. He lengthens his stride a bit to try to keep up with the horse and not slow it and its rider down. How long will it take to afford a Plane Shift (or two of them) home? Probably long enough that he's going to miss the convention. It didn't sound like Iomedae was going to pick up a ton of Chelish clerics to fill Her seats in the religious delegation but he can't Plane Shift himself remotely in time unless some remarkably bad things happen very quickly. Would he be higher circle if he had run his fort worse? That's a perverse incentive, he wonders if anybody's doing that on purpose so they get to have less overdetermined fights with non-stunned demons more frequently, you'd hope that wouldn't be a way to get promoted but a lot of officers seem to think circles matter more than any other quality for promotion, he got some incredulous letters when he promoted Grec...

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Vanyel is starting to feel like he should have been taking notes??? He's pinned down slightly more of what felt odd and off about how the man was thinking about magic, earlier - it feels a little more like White Winds, what he's heard of it from Jisa, than how Valdemar thinks about mage-gift, except that White Winds isn't exactly about having more fights - and he still feels like he's not quite reading it right, something is more off than that, but they still don't know if anything the man thinks about the ""other"" ""world"" is even real... 

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Jisa is now hurrying over from the Mindhealers' Collegium as quickly as she can, which will be a lot more quickly once Enara manages to rendezvous with her. She would be more annoyed about being abruptly dragged out of a sesion with a patient, but this does seem like it could be incredibly important. 

(In a corner of her mind that she doesn't look at too closely, she's almost excited. It feels like a long time that they've been waiting for the inevitable escalation.) 

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(Nobody they're going past seems inclined to start an argument with Katri over their direction, though a lot of them are more visibly tense than her. Nods of acknowledgement are exchanged. They pass another half-a-dozen of the blue-eyed probably-horses, which watch him closely but don't interfere with their passage.) 

 

They arrive at one of the standalone Work Rooms, a squat brick building beside a path mostly cleared of snow. Katri ushers the man in ahead of her, and gets to work on a weather-barrier; she's not a powerful mage, but she trained in k'Treva, and the technique doesn't have to have a lot of power thrown at it to quickly warm a small space that has its own walls and everything. 

Inside the room are bare stone walls and a couple of rickety wooden stools. 

:- I'm sorry, I forgot my manners. My name is Katri and I'm a Herald-Mage of Valdemar. What's your name?: 

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The Mostly-Horses are unsettling, like some kind of shapeshifter aimed at 'horse' and missed. Wow he does not recognize that spell at all. Maybe it's some not-a-spell bonus thing like channels and domain powers and sorcerer bloodline nonsense. He sits on a stool. It's ambiguous if he's under arrest, this is really not a guest room looking place (though it also doesn't really look like a jail cell, those would normally have a hallway you could observe people from? Maybe it's a teleport trap or it's for calling outsiders most of the time or something?), and it's not that he'd like to be arrested but he would really like to be clear on it, but asking would sound so confrontational. He is hardly about to threaten to leave unless they make it obvious that they want to insist, if that's not the way they operate around here. Especially since, if they don't know the symbol, they might construe it as a weapon just for being pointy and not even because he can cast spells with it, and then if they were arresting him they might take it away. (She's being very tolerant so far. Guidance.)

His name! He has one of those. :I'm Select Blai Artigas and I'm a cleric of Iomedae.: Which is redundant if you know what Select means but they really don't seem to recognize the symbol. Hopefully they can pronounce his name because he just bets if he has to come up with an alternative it will wind up being something inappropriate in their language or something. Is that Herald in the sense that gods have heralds or in the sense that monarchs have heralds or in some other sense that is translating awkwardly. She doesn't have a trumpet but Clarion Call is first circle. Probably that's not even standard issue heraldic equipment and he's overgeneralizing from a book he can't even now remember reading.

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Most of that continues to be - not important to address now, before they've confirmed whether they're in the implausible-plot scenario or the impossible-but-would-in-many-ways-make-a-lot-more-sense scenario. But probably the man should know what Heralds are. That seems important. (Also it's only fair for him to know whether or not he's being arrested, but Vanyel...isn't actually sure yet how they're going to decide they're handling that. Safer to wait until Jisa has a chance to look and determine if he's had enormous amounts of Mindhealing done to him.) 

:You should explain what Heralds are: he sends to Katri. 

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Fortunately explaining what Heralds are to someone who's never met one before and doesn't have much context on Valdemar is not a completely new situation to be in. 

:Heralds are - it means someone who's Chosen by one of the Companions - you saw my Companion outside, she looks like a white horse, but Companions are magical and intelligent and Choose people who're, er, well-suited to help lead Valdemar, and they help guide and advise us on protecting Valdemar and upholding the laws and generally being trustworthy people.: 

She has no idea if he's going to believe any of that, or find it reassuring even if he does. She doesn't get the sense that he intends to break any laws on purpose but he might be afraid of doing it by accident. 

:...Um, I didn't fully get what you mean by 'cleric', whatever it is I'm not sure we have them here. Could you explain?: 

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Okay, the Mostly Horses are called Companions. This rhymes a little bit with how paladins sometimes have their own magical horses and are chosen by paladin-corner gods, but it's not quite like it, since the Mostly Horses Companions are doing the filtering, and he should stop relying on comparisons to Golarion magical traditions. ...if the horses are intelligent is he being rude to the horses? She didn't introduce her horse. Maybe her horse COMPANION is shy and he should not rely on this as a cue for all further encounters with them. Anyway. They're some kind of military branch, which is a little weird if they all have the same powers - maybe there are support personnel she's eliding, that would make sense, like how a paladin order won't generally explain itself with "also we sometimes hire wizards and burglars". And they also have some kind of advisory role, or maybe it's a Heraldocracy outright.

They don't have any clerics? That's weird.

:A cleric is a person empowered by a god, in my case Iomedae, and it is the most common way for gods to empower people - though Iomedae in particular does more paladins. We're good at healing, compared to other kinds of Golarion spellcasters, but can prepare spells that are suitable for other needs too. I'm third circle. - clerics go up to nine, like wizards and sorcerers do. I am not allowed to lie: he thinks; paladins definitely aren't and Iomedae was a paladin in life, so he's at least almost certainly encouraged not to lie and he cannot exactly ask anyone for clarification right now :or do Chaotic or Evil things in general and it's my responsibility to carry out my best understanding of Iomedae's will wherever I find myself but She's Lawful Good so that will not take the form of going around doing crimes or anything.: He himself is probably not Good and has very little idea how long it could take him to get there given how he was working for Asmodeus for twenty years; he's presumably Lawful Neutral now. But Iomedae thought he'd do and he will try to make Her right.

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That really gives her a lot more additional questions than answers, but Katri nods anyway. :Thank you.: 

And since she's sort of stuck here waiting for further orders after Jisa sneaks by the Work Room to peek at the guy's mind - she's not entirely sure what for, she didn't get an explanation from Savil, just "Jisa is on her way, keep him in the Work room" - and she needs a further topic of conversation - 

:Can you tell me a bit more about Iomedae?: 

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Jisa is almost there! 

She also didn't get more of an explanation than ''this looks like it could be a Leareth plot" but she can fill in the gaps. She doesn't bother to dismount from Enara's back, just gets herself in Sight-range and Looks straight through the wall - she can't get through with anything other than Mindhealing, which makes her feel half-blind, but her Sight is stronger than it was a few years ago, she should be able to get the detail she needs... 

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:Iomedae is an ascended god. In life she was a paladin of Aroden, I don't know if He's visited this planet before. - uh, He's dead now. Iomedae is called the Inheritor for this reason. This is her symbol,: the tiny dagger with the gold wire sun behind it. :She has a theocracy on Golarion called Lastwall, but I've never been there. I have Her holy book with me,: two copies actually, he kept thinking of situations where he'd want to leave one somewhere so he Scrivened off a second though it's just sewn together and not really bound properly, :if you would like me to read from it though it's quite long and I'm not sure how well it will translate.:

Blai's mind is very... trellis oriented. Very few things growing in his garden are able to support themselves. There are a handful of vines that are struggling along the ground looking for the trellis without having found it yet but they're underdeveloped. The trellis is - new. He has to have had a previous trellis, some of this growth is old enough that it has to predate this shiny new golden structure, but there was some damage when the old one vanished and he's busily growing new vines to cling very hard to the new one.

The vines are forever growing new superfluous tendrils and underripe fruits that will never be able to wave around trellisward and hook on; he prunes them very swiftly and they all turn into compost.

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That's...not not concerning...but Jisa is really quite sure you can't do that with Mindhealing. 

She reaches out. :Van?: And she'll try to describe it in generalities to him rather than bounce her Sight directly, both because Mindhealing Sight takes a lot of training Vanyel doesn't have to interpret and because, even if this man isn't precisely her patient, she still feels like he deserves some degree of privacy. 

:- I don't know what happened to him. Something definitely did but it's - not something magic or Mindhealing could do.: 

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Vanyel is no longer reading Select Blai Artigras' mind. He's keyed to the shields on the Work Room (he was the one who last redid them six or seven years ago) and still directly linked into the Web, he could reach his Thoughtsensing through if he wanted, but it would be more effort and he doesn't really expect to get anything new and useful that way, or miss anything critical in the three-or-four-minute window before Jisa confirms what they're dealing with. 

...Huh. 

:Could a god do it, do you think?: 

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:- Oh. Maybe? The Tayledras don't look like that - even Moondance doesn't - but not impossible.: Pause. :What else do we know? It'd help to - put it in context - normally I have more to go on than just Sight, you know.: 

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:He seems to believe he's probably from another world. If that made any sense whatsoever I'd - be inclined to believe it. Everything he thinks about is incredibly strange. He's the follower of a god I haven't heard of, and was thinking about it in a very odd way. My concern was that - well, we had no reason to think it was possible to travel between worlds, right, or that other worlds existed with people who look human and use magic - and it's a baffling plot if it is one, but 'Leareth having a baffling plot' is definitely not impossible, just weird - and you could make someone believe a lot of strange things with Mindhealing, right, if you didn't care what was ethical...: 

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:You probably could. I don't...think...that's compatible with what I'm Seeing? One moment...: 

She'll try to look 'up close', insofar as she can through shields. Her initial impression is that the trellis is not a normal structure for a person to have in their mind, but the growth around it is entirely natural and not directly meddled with - and you would need fine-detail work to alter someone's beliefs about reality, the trellis doesn't look like the kind of thing that could do that, it looks like something that could guide the man's deeper motivation and drives but the rest is all him - 

 

- but she wants to be quite sure of that, before she tells Vanyel that this definitely can't be Leareth's doing. Can she see any signs of Mindhealing detail-work up close? Or anything that doesn't look like it grew that way naturally, even if she can't pick up the traces of Mindhealing per se? 

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The trellis might actually be mostly natural? The same way some people have potted plants, this guy has trellised plants. The missing old trellis might be more like the kind of thing that happens if somebody dies, not even somebody you're magically bonded to, just someone who acted as a lens on all your thinking. He does have some skills that don't look homegrown, some weird instincts that appear to have been placed to ornament this garden from without, but they're not really messing with the plants beyond being a thing some can grow on in the course of finding the trellis.

No Mindhealers have ever touched this guy.

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That's incredibly fascinating. Jisa doesn't think she's ever seen a mind that - pervasively structured - in a way that wasn't somehow magically imposed. Lifebonds don't look like that. Heralds don't look like that. (Insofar as it reminds her of anything, it reminds her a little of the structure in a Companion's mind. Up close it does look less obviously artificial, more - just the way his mind grew or the way he decided to grow it - but the fact that it's not original to his mind, that it seems to be replacing some previous structure, is weirder - she's seen people with rebuilt-looking minds but not in this particular way and usually with a lot more mess...) 

 

- the little not-homegrown ornaments are weird but not relevant to what she was supposed to be checking, and neither is the rest. With enormous reluctance, she backs off. 

:I really don't think Leareth had anything to do with this. - at least I think Leareth hasn't done anything to his mind, and I don't see how Leareth could have hauled someone here from another world or why he would do that. I - guess I can't be totally sure without deep-scanning him, but given how unlikely it seems, I'm not comfortable doing it without his consent. And obviously I couldn't do it without him noticing.: 

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Vanyel lets out his breath and some of the tension with it, and abruptly feels very very tired. 

:All right. I think we owe the poor man an explanation, then.: 

Sigh. 

:You shouldn't be involved. Just because it's not Leareth's doing doesn't mean it's - safe - just get back to Mindhealers', all right? I'm sure they need you anyway.: 

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And he wants to tuck her away somewhere safe. Jisa tries not to feel hurt, and does manage not to retort that she can look after herself just fine; it won't help. 

:All right.:

Pause. 

:I think he's - I don't know for sure, I'm missing a lot of context, but I think he's trustworthy - or, I mean, I think there's something he's loyal to, something he's built himself around, and he won't go against that. I guess I don't know what 'that' is. But it's probably not 'working for Leareth'.:

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Sigh. :I guess that's what we have to figure out.: 

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Jisa is admittedly not sure what happened to his last trellis. She doubts what happened was him deciding to break with it, though. She - isn't sure that's possible from within the structure of a mind like that. 

She turns Enara back toward the House of Healing, deep in thought.

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Vanyel reaches out to Mindspeak Katri, which is a lot easier to do through shields he's keyed to than full Thoughtsensing on someone who's weirdly hard to read to begin with. 

:We checked. He's not working for Leareth. We don't know who he does work for and that might be important, but - he's not under arrest, we just want to understand what's happening and - I guess maybe help him get home, if he wants that?: 

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Oh good. Katri just barely manages to keep the visible relief off her face. 

:We do know who he's working for, actually! A goddess called Iomedae. ...The explanation is very confusing, he seems to be claiming She used to be human and served a different god? Who's dead but might have visited our world for some reason? This goddess Iomedae has a kingdom in 'Golarion', like how Vkandis has Karse. - he has Her holy book on him and offered to translate it.: 

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(Non-Chelish people are actually really easy to read but it's not that weird that she might have several telepathic bonds up. Maybe that's why the one she had left uncast was still and silent.)

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That's...a start, at least. 

:I'm going to come over there. ...Tell him he's not under arrest, I guess. I can explain more once I get there.: 

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That's such an awkward thing to just say to someone out of the blue!!! 

:You're, er, not under arrest.: Fidget. :Someone else is coming to explain more.: 

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Oh that's very Lawful and polite of them. :Thank you for letting me know.:

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He's taking all of this surprisingly well, honestly. Katri is pretty sure she would be freaking out enormously more in his position. 

...Still really awkward to sit here in silence for the next five minutes or however long it takes Vanyel to get here, though, she should - think of something else sensible to ask... She scrabbles for a moment, trying to remember some previous thread she could follow up on.

:What was the name of the god you said was dead, again? And, er, how exactly does a god end up dead...?: 

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:His name was Aroden. He attempted to incarnate on Golarion to bring about an Age of Glory and it did not work. It created a portal to the Abyss which stood for a century and a permanent storm which persists still and broke the functioning of prophecy all over the planet in addition to killing him.:

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Wow that's horrifying and disturbing???? Possibly Katri should ask more questions about it but she almost doesn't want to know, yet, it feels like she already has more than enough to process. 

:Is there anything more you can tell us about magic in Golarion? It sounds like it works a bit differently from here.: There, a safe topic that definitely won't be upsetting. 

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:Sure. The most common kinds of spellcasters there are wizards and clerics. Clerics are like me, though of course different gods prefer different alignments and personalities. We cast from wisdom and ask for our spells in an hour of prayer every morning. Wizards cast from cunning, use books to store the spells they've learned, and learn to cast their spells in schools or apprenticeships. I technically know one wizard spell but it's a zeroth-circle one and I can't use most of its features reliably. There are also sorcerers, who have a hereditary or idiosyncratic magical power - often they're like narrowly scoped wizards, and there's a relatively common kind that sings to cast their spells instead of speaking, but they vary a lot more overall. And there are rarer kinds of casters like druids, and there are casters whose magic is a lesser component of what they do, like paladins, who don't get first circle spells until they're nearly as powerful as I am at third circle but have some non-spell abilities that come in before then. Some magic users learn to create magic items like scrolls and wands and enchanted weapons but I don't know how myself.:

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What a fascinating blend of familiar-sounding and bizarre. 

:...Huh, do you mean that 'wizard' magic isn't hereditary? - all the Gifts we know about are something you have to be born with, or at least born with the potential for.: Which is very relevant for Katri in particular, who was a mage in potential only until rather recently. :We have a lot of narrowly scoped Gifts - like Mindspeech, which is how I'm talking to you - but mage-gift is hereditary as well.: 

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:It is understood that cunning is hereditary but the spellcasting must be trained. It sounds like you would be considered a sort of sorcerer on Golarion, though I don't know if this is more like a spell or like some other sort of ability. Do you mind if I get out my lunch now, it will expire soon if not eaten.:

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Katri has no idea what that means but going off his affect she really doesn't think he's planning anything nefarious. :Um, sure, go ahead.: 

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He pulls a roll out of his bag and a table knife and a chunk of rock salt. He cuts the roll in half, revealing that it has butter and an entire hardboiled egg inside, though the egg doesn't seem to have a shell even though it would not retain that shape while cooking/baking without one. He scrapes some salt off the chunk onto the cut halves of the roll on his lap, and then eats it.

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That looks really tasty. (Katri may have missed breakfast today; she was planning to grab something at one of the food-vendors' stalls once those were set up.) She tries not to look envious. 

:What's the difference between using Wisdom or using Cunning for doing magic?: The different connotations do sort of come across through Mindspeech, but she's just holding a link for him, not trying to fully read the guy's mind. She has to be missing some nuance or other, since from what she is getting it seems like...both...should be important for literally any skill? 

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:Wisdom, cunning, and splendor are the three basic features of how well someone's mind works, and different kinds of magic require different ones - sorcerers normally require splendor. Some people have fairly balanced abilities but the most powerful wizards are going to be the most cunning ones, the ones who are good at math and memorization and making logical leaps between concepts, and this remains true even if they have very poor reflectivity and judgment - Wisdom - and bad communicative skills - Splendor. I can cast spells to enhance Wisdom and Splendor, though not today; clerics don't get the one for Cunning. There are three physical features likewise that also each have an associated spell but as far as I know nobody uses those to put force behind their spellcasting. Do you want the other half of this?:

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Why in the world would you divide up the different ways people's minds can work better or worse into exactly three categories– oh, right, if there were exactly three different magical techniques to improve particular elements, that makes a lot of sense actually. Also that's so cool! Katri isn't even sure if Mindhealers can do that, exactly - Jisa mentioned something like that, but maybe it only worked on herself? - and in any case there aren't enough of them to afford recreational use of Mindhealing to make yourself think better. 

- she blinks, confused by the change of topic. :Oh, er, it's fine, I don't need your food.: 

When is Vanyel getting here? If she weren't expecting him any minute she would be considering if she ought to be taking notes or something, but it doesn't feel worth it when she expects to be interrupted soon for him to take over. 

:How many gods do you have in Golarion? And what are they like?: 

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If she doesn't want it after all he will eat it. :I don't know an exact number! There are many minor ones and plenty of beings where it matters what your technical definition of 'god' is, and different ones are popular in different regions. Certainly there are dozens. Gods come in all alignments just like people do and also have different areas of concern - Erastil is Lawful Good like Iomedae, for instance, but He's the god of agriculture and hunting and the family, they don't have a lot of overlap beyond the alignment itself.:

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Well, it seems rude to eat his food - though it's thoughtful of him to offer - and also she wasn't sure if she should be worried about the thing where it apparently wouldn't be okay to eat anymore in another few minutes?

She nods along. :Huh. - you keep talking about 'alignment' and I'm not sure I actually know what you mean by that?: 

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:Does nobody here get alignment detection spells or have any contact with the afterlives?:

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:Does no one - what? No, I - I don't think that - I don't think either of those is a technique we have, unless it's a school of magic I don't know about?: 

At this point there's a knock on the Work Room door. Presumably it's Vanyel, but Katri still jumps a little. She ducks her head. :Just a moment.: And she'll go open the door and let him in. 

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The man who enters is quite short and very slender; he looks both very fit and like he doesn't quite eat enough. Both his hair and his eyes are silver. He doesn't exactly give off the vibe of an authority figure, but Katri is definitely looking at him like he is one. He's also dressed entirely in white. 

He nods to Blai. :My name is Herald-Mage Vanyel.: 

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:Select Blai Artigas.:

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Still making eye contact with Blai, Vanyel reaches out to Katri with a private Mindspeech link. :So? I haven't been reading him since you came in here, anything important come up?: 

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Okay now she kind of regrets not taking notes. 

:He's been telling me a bit about Golarion. Their magic is really weird - he has magic granted by the goddess Iomedae, but it sounds more like mage-gift than like that one time Karis had a miracle from Vkandis. There's another kind of magic that isn't like Gifts at all, it's not something you're born with, apparently anyone clever enough can learn it and they use books to store their magic in? They have a weird thing where they talk about cleverness - he called it 'Cunning', said it was like being good at math - differently from being wise or being - good at communicating - I think it's those three things because there are different magical techniques to make someone better at one of them? They also have Gifts, or something like it, but he made it sound like they're less important than the book-magic and the god-magic. 

...Er, and the god his goddess used to serve died when He tried to incarnate in the world to do - something, I didn't catch it but it was meant to be good - and it sounded like it went horribly instead. They have a lot of gods, more and less powerful ones. One of them is a god of farming? ...Oh, and we were just talking about 'alignment', which is something both gods and people both have, it's detectable with their magic and...has something to do with afterlives? That's where we were when you came in.: 

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That's a lot of things, but so far it does feel like it hangs together? 

 

...Vanyel is mindful of Jisa's comment and the fact that it's not obviously warranted to read this man's mind constantly, but he's going to do it once more anyway. They have a lot of reasons to be paranoid, and he can apologize later if he decides it was unfair. 

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Did she think he was going to poison her. That would be fairly ridiculous since he then ate the food himself but she was looking at it and he would have been fine on half a lunch or no lunch really and it's not like it's not REALLY OBVIOUS when a foreigner is looking hungrily at your food. Maybe it would have been rude. Does he have to figure out the rules about whether it's rude to accept food tonight - does this mean his next casting of Create Food is going to be mostly wastage if they won't take it. Are they telepathy-ing each other now? They look like they are, he shouldn't interrupt them. Unless there was something he was supposed to do besides introduce himself and they're waiting on him for that. Did he do anything besides introduce himself when he first met Katri, that he is not doing now, he can't remember. They're probably just telepathy-ing each other about him and how weird he is and all of the innumerable rude and awkward things he has probably done in the short time he has been on this planet. That is their perfect right but it would be really nice if he knew what the things were so he could stop doing them. Does he smell bad, it's been a bit now since he's gotten prestidigitated by someone who has the entire spell worked out and he was trying to nudge the Endure castings later in the day to be able to eventually skip one and add an extra Ant Haul to make better time without cutting into the Oh Shit Spells. Even though his Oh Shit Spells were manifestly inadequate to the snake thing. Not that he had time to get one off, maybe... no, actually his spell loadout was completely inadequate for nonperson monsters, what was he thinking, it's fucking Menador, was he going to take down even a completely expectable bulette with just his mace and a Divine Favor? He prepped Hold Person and Forbid Action. You can sure tell that clerics do not cast from cunning, just like Jaumandreu used to say. But he was worried about orcs and both spells plus Burst of Radiance would work fine on orcs... and probably he couldn't take a bulette by himself anyway... he is now on another planet and should simply drop context about what the dangers on the road in Menador are, if he gets to Plane Shift home he can ask them to drop him directly in Westcrown. Even if they're off by the maximum error he'll be closer to the city than he was at the time the snake attacked. Unless he lands in the Inner Sea. In which case he will be closer geographically but only until he drowns or is eaten by a sea monster. He doesn't know anything about what spells to prepare for sea monsters.

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This poor man is so worried he's being rude. Really, Vanyel feels like it's more rude of them to haul him off to a Work Room with minimal explanation and invasively read his mind. 

...This 'Golarion' world sounds so concerning. Then again, Valdemar might come across just as badly if someone were learning about it only via reading Vanyel's mind while he was having a bad day. 

 

He pulls over one of the stools and sits down. :I'm sorry for hauling you over here without an explanation. There were, er, some things we had to check, but - you're clearly not here on purpose or intending anything hostile. I admit we still have a lot of questions, but it's not an emergency. Do you have any questions right now?: 

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:I think that was perfectly reasonable of you, I plane shifted into your territory with no advance warning whatsoever! That must have looked incredibly suspicious! I would like to know if you have anyone who can plane shift available and how I could earn a casting. A Sending might also do, since I am wanted for a political pet project of an archmage who could conceivably want to spend the spells to come fetch me himself, though I might want to go about that more indirectly rather than interrupt the man himself.:

Are there questions he's supposed to have. None of these people's anything is any of his business. Is it signaling that he finds them uninteresting or something if he doesn't have questions about them besides whether they can send him home. Does this description of the constitutional convention make him sound too important? He doesn't actually know how many delegates there are going to be except that they want up to ten of them to be empowered Iomedaeans. Are they going to hold a seat for him since they bothered to send him a letter so that he is decreasing the Iomedaean political influence by at least ten percent, or is he easily replaceable - there probably are not actually ten Chelish Iomedaeans, but maybe he's selling short the refugee routes and there's plenty who've been living in Andoran and were empowered a decade ago and will come back now - but then why pull him away from the fort - he definitely shouldn't Sending an archmage, he can probably pay Fiducia Boian with the information that this planet exists or something to relay the facts to interested parties.

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:It did look incredibly suspicious, but - that wasn't your fault and I don't think it's fair to take it out on you.: 

Select Blai is taking the whole 'being apparently transported to another world' thing remarkably in stride, and attitude about this whole thing is incredibly...convenient? Vanyel isn't sure whether to feel bad for taking advantage of that or suspicious, not that he can think of any useful direction to point that suspicion. 

'A political pet project of an archmage'???? ...Well, presumably not all of them are like Urtho and determined to avoid involvement in politics. Some of them are Leareth  really more of them are Leareth than you would initially think Blai is from another planet and presumably all sorts of things are different and also, unless there's a lot he's never told Vanyel, Leareth is definitely not running around it as various important historical figures. Vanyel should really focus and stop worrying about Leareth. 

:I don't recognize what technique you mean by 'plane shift': he admits. :If you think your world is in another plane, I have no idea how we could get you home. ...If you think it's in this plane but around one of the stars very far away, I have even less idea, actually. I'm sorry. I don't know if it's possible with our magic.: 

Leareth would know, or be able to figure it out, probably within a week. Vanyel absolutely cannot and should not ask him about it. Though he finds himself half-looking forward to the possibility of having the dream tonight - it's been a while, but someone appearing from another world probably counts as new information even if Vanyel has no intention of sharing it - 

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Well, that's kind of weird, but maybe they just never invented tuning forks or something. :I think my world is in this plane but on another planet, but plane shifting twice, once to perhaps Axis or Heaven and then back to the Material but aiming for my planet, would do the job. Failing that if you can do a Sending, or if you have a scroll of it or a wand I might make use of, I can let someone on my planet know what's going on and pass the information along in case I am worth the archmage's time to retrieve.: What if he is not. What if he Sends the Fiducia and the Fiducia writes the archmage and the archmage is like "meh". Then he would NEVER get to finish his chess by mail game with Commandant Terzíc. Wow that was a dumb thing to focus on even for him. There is probably some important political goal to be accomplished for the forces of Good at the convention and if he doesn't meet his catechism instructor there he will never find out what it is, let alone do it.

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:...I think your world's magic is very different from ours. We don't have a communication-spell that works across planes or arbitrary distances.: Actually it's entirely possible that Leareth does, especially if it turns out he DOES know there are other populated worlds. :We - can try to figure something out, obviously, with your help, but - I doubt we can figure it out today, or this week. I'm sorry.: 

And he's going to back off and stop reading the poor man's mind now, though maybe after he's finished explaining that, in case Blai reacts very badly to it or something. 

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Well, then he guesses he lives here now until he either kills enough monsters to hit fourth circle or the archmage notices he's missing without prompting and decides to care about that. Unless something weird happens, which is always very possible, and happened only just this morning. What if it's a different time zone here and he will be exhausted and having flashbacks to seminary until he readjusts, that would suck. You fall asleep in class ONE time. He won't be late to the convention until a month out but that's not enough time to do much of anything if you have this impoverished a starting point, he doesn't even have a tuning fork on him. :Well, that's regrettable but I suppose I'll just have to find a way to make myself useful here.:

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He's really remarkably - easygoing - for someone whose mind is running in circles that much. Vanyel tucks away his Thoughtsensing, with a faint feeling of relief. 

:We don't need anything from you right now and we're not - going to demand you work before we give you food, or anything.: Though maybe his magic can straight-up create food? Vanyel isn't sure he could possibly have caught that right, but magic directly granted by a god might have a lot of capabilities that mages don't? :But I'm sure you could be very useful here, if you wanted. What kinds of magic can you do?: 

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:Clerics are, compared to other Golarion spellcasters, best at healing, followed by enhancement type spells, but we can do a lot of things - summonses, divinations, today I prepared Create Food and Water which I was planning to exchange for hospitality at a random farmhouse when I was done walking for the day, direct combat magic but we're not as squishy in weapons fighting as a wizard is either. I'd need to vet any situation I was doing combat in, of course, but I'm not constitutionally averse and Iomedae isn't a pacifistic sort. Tomorrow I can prepare Comprehend Languages and Share Language so you don't need to spend telepathy usage on me.:

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What a strange mix. And, well, there might be fighting soon, but there isn't now, and either way Vanyel would be very reluctant to drag this man into a war with Leareth. 

:Mindspeech isn't especially tiring, but it does limit you to talking to Mindspeakers, so if you can do translation with magic: (!!!!????) :then that's a good idea. We don't have a shortage of food but - hmm, I don't know how it works, if it can create any kind of food including something exotic from your world, then - well, we do have an ice festival on today, I'm sure you could earn some coin.: 

He should really ask about the Healing but - it probably can't help Randi, Velgarth Healing certainly can't, and some part of him is reluctant to go ahead and confirm that. 

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:I can specify the type of food, but it does always come out undersalted, so it's usually more impressive to people who are hungry than as a novelty. If I get a look at what kinds of food there are here I can try to guess at something that might be exotic. How common are Mindspeakers? Comprehend Languages will last a bit under an hour for me and let me understand and read whatever is said or written in any language, and Share Language will let me cause one person to speak a language I know as well as I do for a full day.:

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Nod. :Mindspeakers are rare in general, but there's not exactly a shortage here in Haven – this is the capital city of Valdemar. Most of our Mindspeakers are in pretty high demand, but - it's not like you arriving here isn't also important - we might as well assign a Gifted Herald-trainee to follow you around and translate, that's not especially costly for us: if anything, it would make some trainee's day, :and works at least as well as having you give someone the language. Though being able to understand what everyone is saying is - certainly something I'd find reassuring in your place - even if it's only for a candlemark.: 

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:I can prepare it several times, albeit not enough to cover the whole day, but if you're going to assign me someone to escort me and translate for me and they're already telepathic then I suppose I don't need Share Language, though I don't know what I do need the second-circle slots for in that case.:

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:What are your options? ...I would like to hear more about the Healing you can do in particular, in case it complements our Healing-Gift rather than being redundant with it.: Pause. :Though, er, also it might not be a bad idea to prepare some defensive combat spells, if you have those. Just - just in case. We aren't currently at war but - it's possible a war could start soon, and we wouldn't have a lot of warning.: 

They're not at war, but Vanyel is aware that, however much it wasn't deliberate on Vanyel's part to grab someone from another world with otherworldly god-magic, it's something that Leareth could take as a threat. And he doesn't know what Leareth is thinking, they haven't been talking in a while. 

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:There are a tremendous number of spells. War against who or what? That affects which ones will work well.:

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...Oops, now Vanyel has to think about what's a good idea, given that nearly all of the details are...a state secret...and he likes this man, so far, but (whatever Jisa's impression of his mind might have been) doesn't actually have enormous reason to trust him. 

That being said, it's all much more in the open than it was even just a year ago. And - it feels unfair to this man, to ask him to make himself useful with his god-magic when that might bring him to Leareth's attention, and not even warn him. 

- what would Leareth be likely to actually do, if he received word from his spies of a man with suspiciously impossible powers in Haven? (Leareth wouldn't be fooled by the fact that 'making food appear from thin air' doesn't seem like a big spell. It's an impossible spell by all the known laws of magic.) 

 

He takes a deep breath. :There's a very powerful - archmage, I suppose you could say - based to the far north, who we have reason to think may be planning an invasion. Not necessarily imminently, but - we believe he has spies in Haven, and even though we know we didn't bring you here on purpose, it's possible he could learn about it and see it as an - escalation on our part. I don't know exactly what I expect to happen, though.: 

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:Okay, but, what kind of invasion. Legions of the undead, armies of demons, called fire elementals, normal human or other mortal person soldiers... Would it be more convenient for your deescalation efforts if I were somewhere else? I wouldn't object at all to being relocated somewhere less provocative, though I don't have a better way of getting away than walking.:

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:I don't know what 'undead' are, we might not have that? He has a lot of mages. It seems likely he has mages who can Gate directly to Haven even if that's not feasible for a full invasion. I don't know if summoning demons is something he makes a habit of, but that is used in combat here - though come to think of it I have no idea if they're the same as your demons or not. I know he makes a habit of using compulsions - mind-controlling magic, he could stop people from fighting back or - probably make them do whatever he wanted them to do, honestly.: 

Sigh. :...And we should consider moving you somewhere less visible, I suppose, or at least only asking you to do magic in private. It trades off against your magic being useful to us, but - we don't need that, it's not like we were counting on it, and I - don't want to ask you to put yourself in danger.: 

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:Most magic doesn't benefit enormously from being cast in public, but the effects, if I did a lot of healing or something, would probably be noticeable. Do you have truth magic? Clerics can prepare Zone of Truth and it might be useful for filtering out spies. If you've already got as much of that as you can use probably what I'd want is things that make enchantments easier to throw off, Owl's Widsom and Resistance and Protection from Evil...:

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:Heralds have truth magic, that's not in short supply.: They...haven't historically gone around using it on random people to root out spies, rather than specifically in the courts, and - it would upset a lot of people but honestly it might be worth considering anyway. Not Blai's problem, though. 

:I'm not sure what defines 'enchantments' in your kind of magic, I don't think we use that category, but that sounds like a good idea.: 

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:Enchantments are a school of magic; Golarion casters learn to identify spells by whether they're enchantments or transmutations, divinations, abjurations, evocations, necromancy, or conjurations. The overwhelming majority of mind control is enchantment but the things I thought of will mostly work on other things that could also be described as mind control.:

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Vanyel would love to sit here asking questions about the categories of Golarion magic for the next day, but - not the priority. 

:That makes sense. I think you should prepare that tomorrow, probably. ...Can you tell me more about your Healing, though? What kinds of injuries or other problems is your magic especially good for?: 

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:Positive energy channeling, which I can do as a thirty foot radius burst twice a day or by replacing a prepared spell with an equivalent-strength cure spell as many times as I have spells I care to exchange, is excellent at acute injuries but mostly if they're recent, it's useless at infections. I need to prepare specifically for disease and it's a third circle spell, I can only do that once a day and it doesn't always work. Also at third circle I can cure blindness or deafness as long as the organs are still present and just don't work. Second circle I have Lesser Restoration, it's good at a wide range of conditions but there are things it can't touch. And as an orison that I can do as many times per day as I like, on days when I have it at all which don't include today, I can stabilize dying people so they stop getting worse.:

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:Huh. That does sound usefully complementary to our kind of Healing.: Probably not useful for Randi, unless "Lesser Restoration" is more powerful than it sounds like. :Is it more tiring if there are more people in the radius when you do the channeling one? And - does it not matter what someone is dying of, for the one you can do unlimited times?: 

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:It's not tiring at all, none of my magic is. It... might matter if they were dying of something very weird and it does not work if they are already dead.:

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:None of your magic is tiring - is that because the power comes from your god, not from you directly?: 

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:I don't think it's tiring for sorcerers and wizards either, though they rely on sleep to be able to do it more than we do.:

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:That's an interesting difference.: Vanyel is mildly jealous. :What - limits how much magic someone can do, then, if it's not getting tired?: 

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:There's sort of limited - space for it, which refills at dawn for clerics, or with sleep for arcane casters.:

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That doesn't really leave Vanyel un-confused, but now isn't the time to go into depth on the alien magic of another world, however fascinating it is. He's...feeling pretty confident at this point that Select Blai Artigas is unlikely to get up to anything nefarious, and he's very sure he isn't a spy for Leareth. It's not urgent on the level of candlemarks to figure everything else out - it would be different if they had a way to get the poor man home, but they don't - and in the meantime he's neglecting his responsibilities for maintaining security at the the ice festival, which he's not sure would be possible to call off at this point even if it were a lot more warranted. 

He ducks his head. :I have a lot more questions, but - is it all right if it waits until later today? It seems like there are decisions we shouldn't be making hastily anyway. Do you need anything else right now? Er, we can offer you a proper room to stay in, and I'll work on assigning a trainee to shadow you like I mentioned before.:  

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:I don't think I have any other immediate needs, thank you. I expect to be able to answer questions whenever you'd care to ask them.:

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Nod. :Katri can show you to, er, somewhere more comfortable than a Work Room, and translate for you until we find that trainee.: 

To Katri, privately, :- I'll try to make that happen as soon as possible. You should write up what you learned from him as soon as possible, while it's fresh. Randi's going to want a report.: Vanyel has his own note-taking to do, but that can wait until he's parked somewhere he can usefully watch the festival proceedings with mage-sight. 

He smiles at Blai. There's tiredness behind the smile, but it's genuine. :I'm sorry we don't have an easy way to get you back to your world, and I'm sorry things here are - complicated - but we can figure something out.: 

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Katri is kind of tired of the emotional radiation but she bobs her head. ...Maybe she should just stop using her Empathy even passively, if they've decided they trust the man now? Only she also sort of wants to know if he's confused by something but reluctant to ask. 

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He does not seem obviously confused by anything more than the background "wow this sure isn't my planet" confusion, which is mostly manifesting as anxiety more than anything else. :Thank you: he tells both of them, and he's up and ready to follow Herald Katri.

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(Vanyel heads out.) 

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Katri leads him out of the Work Room back into the snow – though the sky is still perfectly clear blue, with barely a breeze, and now that the sun is higher in the sky it doesn't feel terribly cold. 

...She pauses. :Do you want to head to a guest room now, or, er, would you rather see some of the ice festival?: There is maaaaybe some desire on her part not to have to miss half the morning because she's glued to him. :I don't think you would stand out too much, lots of people traveled in for it. ...I guess the chainmail might stand out, and you probably couldn't take the mace in, I think they're searching people for weapons. Um, it's up to you, we could leave it somewhere safe but if you'd rather not we don't have to...: 

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:It's not standard to go around armed here even out of doors?:

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:....No? I mean, the Guard will be armed - and normally it wouldn't be odd to wear a dagger if you wanted, they're just being paranoid about security 'cause the Queen of Karse and her daughter are here - but I don't normally go around armed in the middle of the city, just out on circuit.: Admittedly she's a mage, so it's not like she's ever really unarmed, but it's not like she felt differently before she was a mage. 

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:I don't wish to alarm anyone but seeing as I did just get attacked by a monster I'd as soon skip the festival.:

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:...That's fair.: Katri is a grown adult and can cope with doing her duty as a Herald even if it means missing some of the festivities. It'll probably only be for a candlemark or two, and the Ice Festival will go all day and late into the night, it's fine. :All right, let's go to the guest rooms, then.: 

They're already outside the Festival perimeter, and mostly passing crowds of people going in the opposite direction, bundled up warmly and clearly excited. Some Herald-Trainees in Greys wave to Katri, and glance at Blai with curiosity, but nobody asks any questions. 

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He will... nod at them? At a wild guess of how you should interact with curious-looking strangers??

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This does not exactly sate their curiosity but there's no sign that anyone thinks it's a socially inappropriate move! 

 

They follow a meandering path, paved and mostly cleared of snow, past an orchard and a glass-roofed greenhouse and a stable and a large field with a few Herald-less Companions milling in it, and eventually end up at a long, low stone building. The style of architecture is clearly foreign, but otherwise it probably won't feel especially unfamiliar to Blai. 

Katri leads him in. (It was a long enough walk that her Companion was able to pass a message to another Herald who could check which rooms in the guest wing were free, assign them one, and let the servants know.) 

:Here we are! The privy and bathing-room are at the end of the hall, and - this is your room, looks like.: 

The interior walls are also plain stone, but softened by a few tapestries, and there's a worn rug on the floor. The room is equipped with a narrow bed, a small writing-desk in the corner with a stool tucked underneath, a washstand and basin by the window (glass, with curtains tied back), and a cozy, if elderly and visibly patched, armchair in front of the fireplace, which is unlit but already stacked with wood over a little teepee of kindling. 

Katri lights it with a little burst of magic. It only seems polite, and besides, she's been a mage for a short enough time that it still feels very cool every time. 

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:This is lovely, thank you.: He had years in command of his fort to accumulate things for it, and this room is not nicer than his suite in #11. But this is a random guest room they had available on short notice, so that's very impressive. He sets his backpack on the desk.

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:Do you, er, need anything else? Is there anything specific you want to ask about Valdemar, or should I just give you a summary of what I think might be relevant?: 

Katri was instructed to shadow him until someone else takes over, but honestly in his position she might want some time by herself in her room rather than having a stranger awkwardly hovering and trying to be helpful.

:...I could just go do some work nearby, if you'd rather - get settled in: she adds hesitantly. There's shielding on the building, but the regular guest-rooms in this wing aren't shielded on the interior dividing walls; she could park herself nearby and still keep her Empathy open, which ought to cover both "Blai has a problem he needs help with" and "Blai surprises them all by turning out to be up to something nefarious after all." 

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:I'd appreciate a summary, I wouldn't expect to know what would be most important to know about the place.:

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:That makes sense. Right.: 

Katri glances around, then goes to pull out the stool and sit, so Blai can have the more comfortable chair. 

:Valdemar was founded about eight hundred years ago. The story is that a baron from a place called the Eastern Empire fled with his people - the Eastern Empire wasn't a very pleasant place, probably still isn't, they use a lot of mind-control magic to force everyone to be loyal to the Emperor and they're always trying to conquer their neighbors. Anyway, Baron Valdemar managed to get away and kept fleeing west until they found land to settle where no one else lived yet, because it was just-cleared Pelagirs. Oh, right, er, the Pelagirs is what we call the land that was damaged by magic in a war between some very powerful mages two thousand years ago, it's slowly being repaired by some people who call themselves the Tayledras and serve the Star-Eyed Goddess - the whole western half of Valdemar would've been Pelagirs when Haven was founded.: 

She swings her legs. :Anyway, the history says that at the end of his life Baron Valdemar was - scared that even if his son was a good ruler, eventually the kingdom might end up - awful the way the Eastern Empire was. So he prayed to every god whose name he had ever heard for a way to keep that from happening. ...Maybe also did a big magical working, I don't think he wrote down very clearly what he was doing but he was an Adept mage. He did get a miracle, the first Companions walked out of the Grove and Chose his heir and his herald, which is why everyone who's Chosen is called a Herald now. Obviously Valdemar is a lot bigger now: and significantly moreso than when she was born, even, now that they've annexed Lineas-Baires and the Lake Evendim region and the north, :- but it's still the law that the monarch needs to be Chosen, because Heralds can - be trusted to not be corrupt and put the Kingdom first. Heralds aren't all of the government, there aren't enough of us - there's a Council in Haven, and a lot of local governance is done by the noble landholders - but Heralds do have the final say in a lot of things, and - I think that's what makes us different from a lot of our neighbors, that Heralds can always be trusted.: 

 

It's a lot more complicated than that, of course. Katri doesn't feel like getting into it right now. 

:...Er, any questions so far?: 

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:Every god he'd ever heard of? Are there no well-known Evil gods here? What does Adept mean, is that what you have as a power marker in place of circles? How many people make Adept? Heralds sound similar to paladins, but I don't know how much overlap there is, should I summarize paladins for a comparison?:

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Blink blink. :...No, what? I've never heard of there being evil gods.: Unless you ask Leareth, in which case it's most or all of them, but that's hardly the mainstream opinion. :I'm sure he wouldn't have prayed to god if They only had a reputation for doing bad miracles or something, but I've never heard of any gods like that.: Presumably if They ever existed, They would have quickly stopped being relevant after everyone caught on? But also it feels like the...wrong category of thing...to apply to gods in the first place. 

:Er, Adepts are the most powerful degree of mage-potential, yes.: Except for Vanyel, but they don't have a word for whatever Vanyel is. :It's based on how much power you can channel, the cutoff is whether you're strong enough to pull node-energy directly - I'm higher end of Master-potential but I can only safely use ley-lines. I think in Valdemar it's been - you know, I'm not sure what it was before the war, we lost a lot of people, but right now there are eight active Herald-Mages and only two of them are Adept-potential. 

...Sure, what are paladins?: 

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:On Golarion gods come in all alignments including the Evil alignments. It's a problem.

Is it a measure of potential or of power? Or are those the same, for mages?

Paladins are empowered by gods - but a specific god, who has to be Lawful Good or Neutral Good or Lawful Neutral. The paladins themselves are always Lawful Good and will lose their powers if they commit even one evil act, even if it's not enough to change their alignment. They cast spells, when they're strong enough, and they become immune to fear and they have a healing power, but even a brand new paladin can detect evil without the spell whenever they like, and they can hit evil targets with particular force. Some of them wind up with magical horses, though some of them have a weapon bond instead.:

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Wow! That does sound like a problem! Katri looks so concerned! Also confused. 

:Um, you have to have Adept-potential to train as an Adept but I do think someone has to have that training to really count. Some schools of magic count it differently - there's one where someone only counts as an Adept if they can perform a particular spell that gives them a lot of extra power, which can take people decades of training even if they had what we would call Adept-potential all along.: Brightstar wouldn't shut up about it. 

:And that's interesting. I can see why Heralds remind you of that, but I don't know if it's really the same. Heralds are just chosen by our Companions, and I don't think we have any reason to expect the god - or gods - who did the miracle in the first place are still involved in that? Er, and Heralds can sometimes do bad things. Sometimes it's trainees getting up to mischief, and - misjudging how serious it is.: She was never one of the trainees who got up to any mischief, serious or not, but there's maybe, maybe, a very faint wistfulness there.  

:You'd get a real earful from your Companion afterward, of course, you wouldn't do it twice. But adult Heralds can still - make mistakes - too, do something in the heat of the moment that you would've known was wrong if you stopped to think. If a Herald ever does something really, really evil, they can be repudiated by their Companion. That's...Which doesn't affect your Gifts - our Gifts don't come from our Companions, though there is a theory that being Chosen makes potential Gifts more likely to awaken in the first place - but, er, the Herald usually doesn't. Survive it. - it's very rare, it's only happened a handful of times in our history.:  

And, again. Complicated. Apparently moreso than anyone knew even just ten years ago. 

(She's noting to herself that she's still pretty confused about 'alignment' and how it's apparently so important in Golarion, but it seems easiest for Blai to wrap up explaining Valdemar and answering his questions before she gets distracted asking him more questions about his world.) 

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:The thing it takes is specifically training, not field experience, fighting monsters or wars or anything...? I... suppose having the death penalty for particularly severe Evil acts by Heralds would probably be functionally similar to having paladins fall... is it not confusing to be guided by a nebulous mass of anonymous gods? Do they not have importantly different teachings and emphasis?:

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Calling it the "death penalty" is kind of oof even if it's not really wrong. Katri winces slightly and then decides not to dwell on it. 

:I mean, field experience definitely matters but you wouldn't usually say someone wasn't a real Adept if they were new to it, just that they were inexperienced.: 

And she frowns at him. :...I don't think it's confusing at all? We're not here to serve the gods, we're here for Valdemar. And, I mean, in Valdemar anyone can practice any religion they want, that's one of our laws that's never changed, but - honestly I think Heralds in particular tend not to have much time for that.: 

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:...you don't have time for practicing a religion?:

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:I guess I don't mean that literally, just - for a lot of Heralds it's not a priority?:

She tries to actually think about it for a moment, and then shrugs helplessly. :I feel like for some people, they - put their religion in the spot where duty goes, how they judge what's important and what's right is all wrapped up in what they think their god wants.: The Tayledras are like that and it's a little bit creepy. :And I think that's the thing Heralds - don't really have space for? We learn about ethics in our training to be a Herald, not from a god's teachings, and our first duty is to the Kingdom and its people. I guess I do know Heralds who try to make time to attend services with one of the temples, but I think they mostly don't - use their religion's lessons to decide how to prioritize their work, or go to a priest about a thorny question related to their duties as a Herald, that would be weird.: 

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:I am so confused about how your gods operate their churches here. Priests ought to be - capable of understanding things like that and contextualizing their advice appropriately. I have not been anywhere near specialized in spiritual counseling in my career but that part doesn't even seem complicated.:

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:I don't think the priests would necessarily give bad advice! Just, it's easier to explain to another Herald who has all the same context, especially when you trained together and spend all your time working together? I mean, it might actually be good if we got outside advice more often, Heralds can be - kind of insular - but I guess it feels like more work. And normally you'd go to your Companion first, anyway, and they might ask the Groveborn if they weren't sure. The Companions do get hunches about things, they sort of all have Foresight, and some people think Foresight always comes from a god or gods, but that's disputed.: 

She peers at him. :...Also I think I'm confused. Do gods in your world directly lead churches and give Their priests instructions on what to say? Because, um, I don't think that's exactly how it works here? I mean, a lot of temples were originally founded because someone got a vision from their god centuries ago, and then sometimes a god will intervene if Their church is really off track - like with Queen Karis and the war with Karse, there was a corrupt high priest who'd staged a coup and Vkandis gave Karis a miracle for a night that convinced everyone He disapproved of that - but that's not common.: 

The story she's heard that sounds most like getting direct instructions from a god is with the Tayledras, but even then, Brightstar just claimed that the shamans could seek advice from - whatever it was he called the dead spirit priests? Not the Star-Eyed directly. And Katri is never sure how much Brightstar is just being a typical eighteen-year-old male and exaggerating for effect. 

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:Gods on Golarion are generally much lighter touches than 'directly leading' the churches, but they choose the priests, and can reject them if they go astray - instead of a miracle in the event of a corrupt schismatic they'd just remove the priest's powers. I guess I have very little idea how churches would turn out without this feature, if they had to steer solely by visions, which I think is more expensive...:

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:...Huh, right, it being normal for priests to always have god-magic probably would make things go differently. Especially if it's easy to check that it's really god-magic and not someone using unrelated magic to fake it. ...I mean, I think it's stupid to use mage-gift to fake miracles from Vkandis, that's just asking to be set on fire, but it's apparently not even the first time in Karse's history that someone's done that.: 

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:Some gods even have specific spells only their followers get. ...He can set people on fire but not give them cleric circles? That's bewildering.:

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Well, Katri finds it bewildering to imagine gods directly micromanaging access to magic for what must be hundreds of people - not even granting Gifts and letting the priests go from there, it sounds like, but handing over individual spells on request! It gives her a bizarre mental image, possibly inspired by Select Blai's egg-filled bread roll earlier, of his god carefully packing and handing over a lunch-bag every morning, making sure to include his favourite snacks. And then doing it again and again for all the priests. Obviously gods aren't subject to human constraints like "wanting to scream after spending too long doing something unbearably tedious", but it still feels like surely They would never have time for anything else! 

:I think it's not trivial to set people on fire, it's - what did you call it - expensive. ...It seems a lot simpler than giving individual priests magic every day, though? I mean, I would think the way gods use magic would be totally different from how humans do.: 

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:Well, cleric spells are different from wizard spells, even when there's spells with the same name and effect it's possible to distinguish them, but - when I said 'expensive' I meant in what's called an intervention budget. Gods at least on Golarion often work at cross-purposes and too much of their concentrated attention is potentially destructive, there's something like a treaty among them to limit that. It restricts actions but it also restricts the flow of information. Choosing a new cleric is information - about who is suitable for a given god and what was on their mind at the exact moment of the choice; I think when the latter information isn't useful people tend to be picked in their sleep instead, or just at the moment of dawn when they can start preparing spells - but since clerics mostly all work the same way, it's not very detailed information. I guess the ones active here just don't have that equilibrium at all, or they're not the kind of entity that can choose clerics in spite of being otherwise godlike, but it's strange to me.:

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:Huh. Your gods sound really...organized?: She frowns. :How do you even know They have something like treaties? That doesn't seem like something They could communicate via choosing particular people as priests.:  

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:Some of them are Chaotic and I don't know the details of how the treaty is enforced. When Iomedae was a mortal, intervention budget was a research area of hers. She was a paladin in life, of Aroden, who is now, uh, dead of trying to move to Golarion to bring about the Age of Glory and caused several other problems in the process. There are spells that get more information from gods, mostly yes-or-no questions. I'm not powerful enough to cast Commune, but if I could there would be training on how to do it most efficiently or I'd refer my questions to people who were trained that way, and I imagine the spell is used sparingly.:

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:Oh! That's neat! I bet Queen Karis would've really liked to have a spell to ask Vkandis yes-or-no questions when they were planning to take back the country from the corrupt priest, even if they had to be sparing with it.: 

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:I imagine that's the kind of situation where it's worth it, yes. There's a chapter of the Acts that's almost entirely about this, and then bits and pieces throughout the rest of the book, but I don't know if it's worth your time since you don't have Communes with your gods and they don't seem interested in directing your operations here.:

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Nod. :It would be interesting to hear more about the Acts, but I guess we got distracted from talking about Valdemar. Do you want to know more about that? Or about how magic works here, since it sounds like it's different?: 

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:I'd very much like to know more about magic here, it seems possibly more likely than gods to come up in a situation where it would be tactically unwise to pause and ask.:

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That seems like a very sensible priority to Katri! 

:Right. So more or less all of our magic is most like what you were calling 'sorcerers' – people have to be born with it. Specifically, you have to be born with potential for a Gift, and the Gift might or might not awaken, usually between age twelve and fourteen or so but it can be earlier or later. Gift-potential runs in families, but it can look like it skips generations since not all potential Gifts awaken. We don't fully know what makes a Gift become active, though we think that probably exposure to it helps – so if someone is around active Mindspeakers and has potential Mindspeech, it's more likely to awaken later - it would explain why Gifts seem to awaken more often in the royal family.: 

Pause to think. :Right, so when a Gift awakens, usually the person with it doesn't know how to use it except instinctively, and you need training to learn control. Practice seems to strengthen a Gift, especially as it's first awakening, but it levels out pretty quickly and the only improvement after that is in efficiency and finesse. All the Gifts can appear more or less powerful between different people – for example, I have moderately strong Mindspeech, so I could speak to you like this from half a mile off and could manage ten or twenty miles with another Gifted Herald. Really weak Mindspeakers need to be in the same room or even touching someone, and strong Mindspeakers like Vanyel can manage hundreds of miles.

:There are a lot of Gifts. Mage-gift is the most general, you can learn to do all sorts of things with the right training, including putting spells into artifacts. The other Gifts usually do one thing but with better efficiency and undetectably to mage-sight, and some of them you can't imitate with mage-gift at all. - many but not all of the Gifts come with a receptive or sensing component, and an active component, like how Mindspeech lets me read thoughts and also project to communicate with people.: 

Does Blai have questions so far? 

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:I think that's very different from every kind of sorcery I'm aware of - they still have inherited bloodlines that affect the nature of their powers, but they increase in circle like every other kind of spellcaster on Golarion, there's no - brief initial training period followed by leveling out at a predetermined cap of power. Also sorcerers have a hard time learning new spells in any way other than by gaining circles, while wizards can as long as there are still spells of the circles they can cast that they haven't picked up yet... would this mean that a very young mage could be just as dangerous as a venerable experienced one, at least in principle if not in strategic knowhow and repertoire?:

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:Depends on the situation, but sometimes! A very young inexperienced mage with Adept-potential could be more dangerous in direct face-to-face combat than a weakly Gifted mage with any amount of training, for sure. Though they'd be vulnerable – most people can do some amount of magic instinctively with no training, but that's way more likely to be setting things on fire than something more controlled like shielding. An experienced mage would have options like hiding themselves with magic and casting at a distance with a lower-power but precisely targeted attack, so a weaker but experienced mage could still take out an untrained Adept-potential mage if they were very clever about it.: 

Aaaaand she doesn't love talking about blood-magic but she really should, given that Leareth's army is the main possible threat that could come up soon. :I don't know if your world uses blood-magic? Here, er, a mage who's willing to be unethical can - kill someone, and use the life-energies released to power their magic. It's...bad for you...and I think it's much harder to control, but even weakly Gifted mages or inexperienced mages can use it to boost offensive spells and be pretty scary. It was a problem in the war with Karse, they were sending out weakly Gifted teenagers loaded up with blood-magic to throw fireballs around.: 

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:There are some relatively obscure rituals that are rumored to involve human sacrifice but it's not standard for any ordinary spells.:

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Nod. :That's a major difference, then. I think blood-magic can be used for any kind of magic as long as power matters more than finesse.: 

What else seems like it could be different. 

:...Our mages don't have a limited number of spells, and they don't come in - when you said 'circles' it seemed like you meant sort of steps in power? For us, a given mage-technique can sort of be ordered by how hard it is, which is a mix of the minimum power it takes to cast at all and how much detail and complexity goes into it, but usually you can put more or less oomph into the same spell – a Master-potential mage can cast the same shield-technique as an Adept, it would just be weaker and stand up to fewer attacks. Mages are usually limited by using up their energy reserves and getting tired – or for Adepts, they can draw on node-energy and keep casting a lot longer, but eventually it gives you backlash and you get a horrible headache. If you really push too hard, especially with a technique like Gates where the spell is stable once cast but drawing energy from a link continuously as long as you're holding it, you can drain yourself unconscious. It's a lot harder to give yourself really dangerous backlash with other Gifts, but the limitation is the same – if I Mindspeak too much at distances that are long-range for me, I get tired and then I get a headache and eventually - it's a bit like when you try to lift a really heavy weight too many times in a row, it's doable when you're fresh but at some point your muscles just won't anymore. Practice does help with endurance – my range hasn't extended since I graduated into Whites but I can manage a much longer conversation at my maximum range now.

Pause. 

:...It's also possible to - sort of choose to burn all your life-energies at once? It's called a Final Strike. Even the very weakest mage could take out this whole building in a fireball, if they were willing to die for it. An Adept's Final Strike leaves a crater half a mile across.: 

Vanyel, they think, would take out all of Haven. Katri doesn't say that, though. 

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:I don't think it's normal for any magic use to knock the caster unconscious unless they do something like center a fireball on their own position and as far as I'm aware no one on Golarion is specifically rigged to explode but that does seem important to know!:

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:Right, it seems like your magic is limited by something else, even for casters who use their own power rather than getting it from a god.: 

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:Right. I have an incompletely learned version of a wizard spell, if that matters to anything.:

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:I guess it might be neat to see if they look different to mage-sight, at some point. ...Or if they don't show up at all, like how Fetching doesn't look like anything to mage-sight.: Shrug. :I'm not really a researcher, though, Vanyel would be able to learn more that way. I'm sure he'll want to ask you about it later.: 

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:At his convenience, of course. Mage-sight is your technique for seeing magic and it can't see Fetching? That's so strange.:

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:...You know, I never thought about it before but it really is strange! Especially because you can shield against it with mage-work - though I think that technique took a lot of research to develop, and it's hard enough that I haven't learned it.: 

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:If mage-sight is specific to other mage techniques I'd be surprised if anything I can do showed up.:

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:It's not only mage-techniques, natural sources of magic - like living things, or ley-lines - show up too! And - wow, I'm just realizing I never noticed how weird this was - you can use mage-energy for other Gifts, we think it's all the same kind of energy. I don't know why other Gifts don't show up, I– hmm. I've heard of it being possible to make artifacts that also don't show up as magical, because the energy signature is, er, sort of only pointed inward? Maybe it's like that. And other Gifts don't leave anything behind, you can't make a Mindspeech set-spell - even Healing-Gift doesn't leave magic behind, the patient is healed but it's still just their body...: 

Katri is thoroughly nerdsniped and has completely forgotten that the goal of the conversation is to answer Blai's questions. 

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:I suppose I should prepare Detect Magic in the morning to see if it has the same limitations.:

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:Ooh, that does sound like a good idea. Unless it trades off against some defensive spell you could have instead just in case, that might be more important?: 

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:No, it's a zeroth-circle spell and I can have four of them available for unlimited castings each day.:

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Nod. :It might be good to have even as defensive magic, if you can't directly see magic otherwise? I would feel really helpless without mage-sight, if I couldn't see what was going on. Though I guess it helps less if your magic works totally different from ours and you can't tell what any of the spells you see are going to do.: 

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:With Golarion magic I can tell a moderate amount about what kind of magic I'm looking at, but it's not fast, I have to concentrate for a little while.:

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:Is it something where you get faster with more practice and familiarity? Or is that just how the spell works? - that is a way that experienced mages are meaningfully more powerful and dangerous than inexperienced mages, if you get good enough you can figure out what another mage is doing fast enough to counter their offensive spells in real time. Van can do it.: 

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:It's how the spell works. There might be someone with a trick for it but it wouldn't be the sort of thing they could trivially teach everyone they met. Counterspells are a thing on Golarion but usually not tactically worthwhile compared to getting off a spell of your own unless the situation is asymmetrical. I can prepare Dispel Magic in my third circle slot tomorrow, though.:

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:Oh, huh, does that - am I picking up right that it counters arbitrary other spells? That's - really powerful - that's not a thing here, you can either shield and deflect it or if you're really good like Van you can interfere with the spell-structure as they're building it and make it collapse on them - that's the part that takes a lot of experience, you have to be able to figure it out and react in a fraction of a second. And, yeah, if you're fast enough to do that it might make more sense just to try to hit them with a levinbolt so they lose it.: 

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:I do not have a spell that does levinbolts. That's more of a wizard thing. I can do Dispel Magic but I can only do it once.:

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...All right, the thing where he has a limited number of spells per day and that's it is, in fact, really limiting. Katri can imagine someone like Vanyel getting a lot of mileage out of being able to vanish an arbitrary spell even if it was only once a day - he could take out someone's shield-talisman, for example - but it helps that he could still be fighting normally the rest of the time. Really it sounds like it would be most useful in something other than a fight. If you were sneaking into a place and needed to take down a shield, for example. 

:What are the options for spells you can do unlimited times? Almost anything a Velgarth mage can do, they can just do again if it doesn't work the first time, so I think being able to dispel magic would mostly work if it was something complicated that would take a while to redo and you could run away or get backup in the meantime.: 

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:The orisons I have today are Spark, Light, Guidance, and Create Water. The last two I usually have, Light I often have but not as reliably, Spark I only have today because I was at some risk of needing to camp out. Sometimes I take Detect Magic, or Virtue, or Resistance, or Stabilize. There's also Mending, which I didn't usually have because I was at a fortress with a lot of spellcasters and could delegate the mending, but it's also an orison.:

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Katri listens attentively. (She's not sure whether helping Select Blai game out how to handle himself in a fight with a Velgarth mage should be her top priority, but it makes sense for it to be important to him, and it feels like it's actually a pretty fruitful way to hone in on the differences between their magic. Vanyel didn't give her very precise instructions.) 

:Mmm. Some of those sound pretty self-evident - though creating water is weird, I don't think you can do that with any Gift unless the thing it does is transport water from somewhere else - but I'm not sure what Guidance or Virtue do?: 

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:Guidance makes you a little bit better at almost anything, so long as the thing begins before the spell wears off. I cast it a lot. Would you like one?:

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Katri blinks at him. :...I'm curious but I feel like I should think of a difficult thing to try doing to test it properly? Also that's another thing I don't know if any of our magic could do even in principle. Maybe Mindhealing but I think it'd have to be - specific, the Mindhealer would have to know someone and what they usually got stuck on, there's not a Mindhealing technique you can just toss at anyone that does that.: 

She considers it. :I guess I could ask my Companion to give me a math problem and try solving it, or something? How long does it last?: 

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:Just a minute if you don't use it, but it can work on things that take longer than that.:

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Why??? That's even weirder! It would make sense if it only worked once, you can set spells with a trigger to fire, and it would make sense if it only lasted a fixed duration, but it's bizarre for it to be triggered by a certain action but the trigger exists for less time than the rest of the spell does! 

Katri is game to try it, though, and then receive instructions from her Companion for the sort of slightly complicated math problem where she tends to always get herself confused, and see if the spell helps? 

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Guidance!

There's a subtle feeling to it, an affordance to be just slightly better at - something. It would be pretty easy to spend by accident but since she's paying attention she can apply it to the math problem.

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It's pretty subtle - it doesn't make it effortless, it doesn't really make Katri feel like she's suddenly better at math - but she does feel a little sharper than usual, a little more like her intuitions are working rather than just getting her turned in circles. It's not gamechanging or anything, but she can definitely imagine ending up using it all the time if it were a motion she had right there and could do unlimited times. 

She solves the math problem, and grins briefly. :That's neat! Do you use it often?: 

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:Usually hundreds of times per day.:

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:Wow. That must be really useful.: Katri isn't sure she would want to use it that many times, but - dozens for sure. And probably it would be even more tempting if she didn't already have the option right there of just wordlessly asking her Companion for help or advice. :...Do rulers and people who make a lot of important decisions get someone with god-magic to follow them around and cast it for them hundreds of times a day? I feel like maybe politics would go better if we had that here.: 

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:There's more powerful magic available for people at that level of wealth and power! I guess a lot of it would cooperate with Guidance, but I don't actually know of it being a commonplace to have a cleric follow a king around and tap them with Guidance constantly.:

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:I guess if there's more powerful magic then probably some of it would be more convenient.: Katri is pretty curious about the more powerful magic now! But it's probably not relevant right now, if Blai doesn't have it anyway. :What does Virtue do?: 

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:It's a bit of a misnomer, it just makes them a trifle healthier for a minute even if they weren't injured before.:

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:That is confusingly named! What sort of healthier? Does it make someone old more like a young person, or make them stronger or fitter, or...? If someone is injured, do the injuries heal a bit and then come back after a minute?: 

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:Virtue in particular doesn't heal injuries and definitely doesn't restore youth or increase strength. It increases - robustness? A little bit, and temporarily. I'd mostly want it if I were going to do something that would definitely hurt me, like if I were going to have to - charge into a burning building, it would be plausibly worth the moment to cast a Virtue if I didn't have something more specialized for fire prepared.:

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:Huh, if it makes you a bit harder to injure that does seem useful even if it's temporary! We don't have anything like–: 

 

And then Katri cuts off abruptly, her shoulders tensing, because she's just been interrupted by a sudden wordless mental burst of alarm from her Companion. 

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:What's wrong?:

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:I don't know - something is wrong at the Ice Festival - my Companion thinks we're safe here, we should stay put for the moment - 

 

 

- some kind of attack, there's - a monster, came from under the ice -: 

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:May I help? Or would I be in the way -:

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:I don't know -:

Focus. Is she a Herald or now. :Do you have any magic right now that would be useful for fighting a monster?: 

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(Half a mile off, Vanyel is asking himself the same question, while clinging bareback to Yfandes as they rush toward the scene -) 

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Savil is drawing on Vanyel's energy to weave a shield, trying to stabilize the ice under the Queen and her daughter's feet as they run toward the bank, but it's too late - 

- ice shattering, a flash of sinewy black flesh and eyes like yellow globes over a too-long jaw - 

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:Yes. And the mace.: He's up now and has it in his hand. He casts a Guidance on himself.

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:Then let's go.: Katri is already at the door of the guest-room. It's going to take them at least five minutes to get there anyway, which is plenty of time to turn around and take shelter if someone tells her to absolutely not bring Blai near the scene.

 

(For example, because the monster could have been sent by Leareth to go after him - but that doesn't make sense, she's pretty sure Leareth would want to capture the man alive, in which case he could have sent a mage to the guest rooms instead -) 

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- one of the guards braces to throw Arven toward the shore, but he's a fraction of a second too slow - and dies for it, as the creature's tail whips up from the star-shaped hole in the ice and severs his head from his shoulders in a single swipe -

- and that's it, the monster's jaws close on Arven's ankle and the dark water closes over her head and she's gone. 

 

 

:I'm going in: Savil sends to Vanyel, and dives after her. 

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Vanyel is also coming to the conclusion that this doesn't make any sense as a Leareth plot targeting Select Blai. For one thing, even Leareth surely couldn't have arranged it this fast, he has spies but Vanyel would have expected it to take several days for him to learn of their visitor.

But Leareth could have known days ago that the Queen and her daughter would be here, and it definitely looks like the monster is after them

And even if he can't get there fast enough to help in a fight, Select Blai also has Healing - 

:Katri: he sends. :Get here as fast as you can.: 

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One he has a sense of direction from Katri he's running flat-out.

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The direction is mostly back the way they came, anyway. Blai is faster than Katri, and is already fifty yards ahead of her by the time her Companion catches up and pauses for just barely long enough for Katri to pull herself onto his back.

- and then, to Katri's surprise, he pauses again when they catch up with Blai a few seconds later. :Get on: he sends, addressing both of them. 

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He is not great at horses but they do have them at the Worldwound, tremendous numbers of them for the patrols. He gets on.

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Companions are much easier to ride than horses! Or can be with some effort on their part, at least; they have to go more slowly than if Katri were riding alone, but it's still going to get Blai there a lot faster than he could run on foot. 

 

Katri is getting confused mental updates from her Companion and relaying them to Blai in fragments, but it's all happening very fast and it seems like even the Companions are having trouble keeping track. The monster still has the Queen's daughter; they think she's still alive, she had a very high-quality protective talisman, it just didn't protect her against falling through an enormous hole in the ice. Savil is in the water and Vanyel is co-casting with her from the shore. Some of the Queen's personal Guards are dead and more are injured; they're definitely not effectively able to fight the creature, but they're trying anyway. Vanyel thinks it's resistant to magic - Savil is trying to trap it or distract it enough to get Arven free so Vanyel can Fetch her out of the water - 

 

They reach the riverbank. There's an enormous hole in the ice and a lot of terrified people are screaming. 

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Vanyel is in a snowbank near the water. It sorts of looks like he fell like that, maybe while in a hurry trying to reach the site; Yfandes is nearby and clearly not able to bear weight on one leg. 

He's apparently in trance, and doesn't open his eyes when they approach, but does reach out with Mindspeech. :If we get her out, you can heal injuries, right? - I don't know if you can fight underwater, or - is there anything you can cast at a distance to help Savil out, she's - about thirty yards from here, that way and down -: 

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:I have one Air Bubble, touch range. Prayer will work when I'm forty feet away and it'll also impair the monster. I have both my channel healings left.:

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Vanyel is thinking quickly, and then Mindspeaking at the speed of thought. :Savil thinks she can distract it and get Arven free if she has a little more of an edge – or if she's willing to risk being injured. But she's not sure she can lure it to within forty feet of us. ...I hate to ask you to take risks for us, you don't even know us, but - if you can swim and have a way to breathe underwater and can get within forty feet, that might be enough.: 

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:I can't swim and don't have time to get out of my armor anyway but if you can toss me a rope I can breathe underwater for five minutes.: He casts Endure Elements on himself so he won't be shocked into nonfunctionality under the water, now that the Companion is running instead of him doing it. Lights up his holy symbol too, it might be dark down there.

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:All right.: A lot of people nearby already have ropes ready in hand - Arven wasn't the only one who fell through the ice - and Vanyel can Mindspeak the nearest person and have a rope for Blai in seconds. He pushes across a mental sense of direction. :That way. - if you don't think you can swim that direction on purpose, I can give you a push with magic. Should be over in less than five minutes: one way or another :but we'll make sure to pull you back before that. I'm going to Fetch Arven out as soon as it lets go of her, she may need Healing.: 

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When they arrive, Blai casts the Air Bubble, lashes the rope around his waist, and jumps in. He sinks like he's wearing forty pounds of armor, because he's wearing forty pounds of armor, but that's fine. The symbol shines. The water's not too cold, with the Endure up, and he can breathe no problem, and he spends the Guidance on swimming toward the action less incompetently. He casts his Prayer.

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Savil senses the unfamiliar magic, of course - she's not caught off guard by it, Vanyel warned her that Select Blai was going to attempt to get close enough to cast a spell from his world that might help, but she does have a flicker of attention to spare to notice that the structure of it is really very odd - 

- and it feels like something, too, entirely apart from what's visible to mage-sight. She just...has the sourceless knowledge that things will be a little more likely to go her way and less likely to go well for the monster she's fighting? 

 

 

It's all she needs. She still has Vanyel's power to draw on; she casts an incredibly bright mage-light to distract the creature, then pours power into a fireball near its tail - the magic can't get through its hide but the heat ought to bother it - and then she smashes its head with a blunt hammer of mage-energies, trusting that Arven's shield-talisman - she's close enough now to sense that it's intact - will protect her enough that the force won't kill her outright, and Blai's Healing will be able to handle anything else, at least well enough to give the Healers a chance to work - 

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The monster is indeed disoriented enough by all of that to loosen its jaws around Arven's ankle! 

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:NOW: she snaps to Vanyel in Mindspeech. 

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And he Fetches out one small child to safety, along with a fountain of freezing water that sprays all over him. 

 

She's not obviously bleeding, though her winter clothes are torn as well as drenched and her face is bruised all across one side. She's not moving, or breathing, but Healing-Sight can still sense the faint thrum of her life-force, and one of the Healers is there before Vanyel even has time to get a link. 

:The child is safe: he sends to Blai. It's been maybe thirty seconds. :She's half-drowned but I don't know if your Healing does anything for that - we'll know more in a moment -: 

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The monster is very upset to have lost its tasty prey, and the mage closest to it is scary and also very well shielded! 

 

It heads straight for Blai, moving remarkably fast. 

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SHIT. 

 

Savil tries to throw a shield ahead of it to block its passage, but distance-casting underwater is very difficult even with the web and Vanyel's copious power. The shield isn't going to hold up to much. 

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Blai's got a plus one cold iron mace. He can whack it in the face.

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It doesn't like that at all! It also doesn't seem to be very damaged by it, but Blai was able to injure it at least a little; there's a thin trail of blueish-black blood in the water, now. 

The long snakelike coils of its body lash as it whips its head back and forth, and then it comes at him again, but with less precision than before. Among other distractions, Savil now has its tail in a force-net. 

 

Her Mindspeech is tense but focused. :Can you hold it off for half a minute, do you think? Don't want it to get away but - hasn't got much endurance - if we tire it out and buy a little time I can trap it.: 

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I don't have a lot of maneuverability but I can hit it and expect to be able to tolerate a couple bites. Do what you need to do.: Thwack.

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Savil fireballs its tail again, just to keep it distracted, and then starts working on a larger force-net. She doesn't dare drop her own shields in case it decides she's an easier target, but - she has it where she wants it, right now. 

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After the second lunge also gets a cold iron mace to the face rather than a tasty morsel, the creature dives and then tries to come at Blai's feet from below instead. 

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He's actually top-heavy so he can pull off the specific maneuver of "be aimed downward" all right.

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The creature is clearly injured at this point, leaking more dark blood into the water, but it seems more driven into a frenzy than incapacitated. It snaps at him again without success, then pulls back out of the reach of his mace and flings itself violently against the half-formed force-net Savil has pinning its tail. 

 

Savil is right that it doesn't have a lot of endurance, and is already tiring, but it's apparently enraged enough to tear itself free of the force-net and execute its preferred maneuver, of coming at its prey from both directions at once with its teeth and the bladed tip of its tail. 

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Savil is briefly disoriented by the spell shattering and backlashing on her, though she's already working on reforming it. She doesn't have a chance to try to shield Blai. 

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He wasn't really expecting her to. He can tank a hit or two and hit right back.

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:Sorry! Think I've - almost got it -: Savil is just going to trust Blai to handle himself, though, and focus her full attention on weaving a net that will actually hold the thing. At which point maybe she can risk getting close enough to hit it with a lethal blow - from a safe distance, the moving water attenuates her magic too much and the creature's resistant hide does the rest. 

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The monster does manage to pin Blai a second time where he can't defend from both directions at once, but it's not hitting as hard now, and its third try is slow enough that Blai can probably dodge.

It shakes its head dizzily, and then seems to decide that perhaps this tempting prey is also too tough a target, and tries to eel away. 

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TOO SLOW! 

 

The cords of mage-force are more than sturdy enough to hold up against its tired flailing, and Savil yanks them tight, pinning the monster's endless muscular coils into a squirming bundle that hangs in the water. 

 

:Got it! - are you all right?: 

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:I'm still up. A channel will have me good as new.:

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Wow, he's tough. Savil is suitably impressed. Her shields could probably have taken that many hits, but only if she had been focusing most of her energy on that and not the force-net. 

:Good. - Worried it'll break free if I stop focusing on the force-net so I can kill it. Do you have a good angle to hit it a few more times?: 

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:I can't swim well but if you can pull it closer to me I can coup de grace it.:

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:I can get you closer: She starts shoving him through the water in little bursts of force; it requires a lot less of her concentration than shaping another force-net to pull him, and he's clearly sturdy enough to handle it. :Is that a spell or something, or do you just think you can take it down now that it can't dodge you?: 

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:It would be a rare monster that wasn't pretty easy to kill once it was helpless!: Here it is. Bash bash bash.

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It has an extremely tough skull! It's not immune to a cold iron mace to the face, though, and eventually it stops struggling and hangs limp in the water.  

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At which point Savil cuts off the mental connection to the force-net – the magic will erode away fast in the moving water, but it should last a few minutes if it's not under strain – and she doesn't need more than ten seconds to get herself close enough, carefully aim a force-dagger, and nearly sever the monster's head from its neck. 

:There.: She pulls Van into the link. :You can pull him out now.: And maybe she'll grab onto Blai's ankle and hitch a ride. She could swim to the surface, but she is in fact pretty tired and cold by this point, and the air in the bubble she's holding around her own head is getting stale. 

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Vanyel can pull them out. He wants to fish out the dead monster too, in a minute - they might be able to learn something from its body about who sent it - but that can wait until the people are safe. 

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Blai hauls himself out onto the ice once he surfaces and offers Savil a hand up the rest of the way.

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The ice creaks in protest. Savil grabs onto Blai's hand and slithers herself on hands and knees to the actual riverbank, then flops over onto her back in a snowdrift and tries to catch her breath. A moment later her clothes start gently steaming. 

:How's Arven?: she sends to Vanyel, still including Blai in the link. 

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Arven is lying on Vanyel's cloak, her small body wrapped in a second cloak in Guard-blue, and surrounded by Healers; not much of her is visible except for a shock of wet black hair. 

 

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Vanyel is on hands and knees, eyes closed and one hand pinching the bridge of his nose; the reaction-headache from pushing his Fetching past its limits, which Yfandes was able to cushion him from for the last several minutes – an ability he hadn't known she had – is now making its appearance in force.  

 

Mindspeech hurts a lot. :Alive: Vanyel manages. :Banged up, nothing critical. Not sure if Healing fixes drowning?: 

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:We should get everyone else who's injured within range, if we have time for that.: 

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:I can heal the child individually first if there's not time to gather a channel's worth. It does work on drowning.:

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:If it's less expensive to heal her individually you should definitely do that.: The Healers don't seem panicked but they do seem worried, and it would be awful if Arven died because they hesitated too long to expend Select Blai's Healing magic.

(Of course, it would also be awful if people end up dying because they didn't hesitate long enough, but - Arven's death would in fact cost Valdemar more than the deaths of some of Karis' personal Guard, who signed up for that line of duty.) 

She'll tell the Healers to make space for Blai. And separately relay orders to the nearest three Heralds that they can Heal anyone with injuries if they're brought here in the next couple of minutes. 

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:I can do both.: He finds the kid and burns a Forbid Action on a Cure Light Wounds, a kid isn't going to need a Cure Moderate.

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Arven wakes up unhurt but still soaked to the skin in cold river water, the last thing she remembers is being dragged underwater by a terrifying monster with huge teeth, and she predictably starts shrieking in terror. 

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Oh noooooo poor Arven. At any other moment Vanyel would be right there comforting her, but right now he doesn't really feel capable of moving. 

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Oh gods everyone is going to think he scared her somehow

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(Arven probably would be scared of a man she doesn't recognize wearing armor and holding a mace, but her eyes are squeezed shut and Savil is pretty sure she's not paying enough attention to have noticed.) 

They should get the poor girl inside, ideally to wherever her mother is. Savil doesn't think she can manage a Gate right now, even short-range, but surely someone can... 

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Karis is in the House of Healing, though it's been determined that she isn't particularly injured, just shaken. Katri is right here and isn't tired and is entirely capable of raising a Gate on the nearest door-shaped object! 

(There are some decorative archways with winter-themed wreathes and holly on them, and someone can uproot one from fifty yards downstream and run it over rather than move Arven there.) 

 

...Katri is pretty freaked out about the last several minutes and also self-conscious because, like, fifty people are watching her, and she can Gate - and doing it across the Palace grounds won't even exhaust her too badly - but she's really slow at it if it's not on the permanent Gate-terminus or another threshold she uses regularly, which means she can be self-conscious about how everyone is watching her be incompetent at magic for an entire twenty seconds. 

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Whoa, is that a fucking Gate.

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No one else is acting like this is a particularly big deal! Arven is gently scooped up and carried through. Katri follows before taking it down; a lot of Karis' mages were injured in the attempted rescue, and it seems good for them to have as many guards as possible in case this was only part one of an assassination plot. 

Injured people are being carried over to within thirty feet of Blai. (The ones who are still alive. It's too late for several of the Guards.)

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Vanyel is aware that he should be trying to think about...something...but his head hurts and he's going to just. Keep sitting here for the moment. He has no idea if Blai's channel-Healing will fix backlash but he vaguely hopes it might at least help a little. 

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Savil is definitely feeling exposed and aware that it's probably not a good idea for any of them to still be sitting out here in the open, but it would be a lot harder logistically speaking to get everyone with serious injuries in range if they move to somewhere shielded. It can wait a couple more minutes. Hopefully. 

:All right, that's everyone: she tells Blai. 

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He grips his still-lit holy symbol and channels.

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It was pretty hard for bystanders to see exactly what happened before, with the Healers crowded around Arven; this time it's a lot more obvious that someone just Healed over a dozen people, at once, without touching them.

(There are a lot of bystanders at this point. The Guard is trying to keep the crowds back, but now that the danger is apparently over, people are curious.) 

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Channeling does not help very much with backlash, which means that Vanyel had better pull himself together and cope with the headache. He's not incapacitated, or even that badly drained, it's really just his Fetching-Gift that was pushed too hard. He's not going to be able to use it at all for the next several days, probably, but once he gets some willowbark and can think more clearly, it shouldn't interfere too much with mage-work. 

 

Also they really shouldn't be out here in public. It's - not clear what could or should have been done differently at any point - but it's seeping into his awareness now that their plan of keeping Blai's unusual magic from coming to anyone's attention is, well. Pretty thoroughly ruined. 

:We should get inside: he tells Blai, tiredly. 

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:All right.: He'll follow Vanyel.

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Savil is feeling a lot better after a few minutes of catching her breath. :I'll stay and drag that thing out of the water. - Van, if we co-cast the pastwatching spell before nightfall, we can probably follow it back most of a week. It had a strong magical signature, there'll be lots of residue.: 

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:Right. All right.: Vanyel is not thinking nearly that far ahead. :Just. Need to get Blai somewhere less visible: he adds, privately just to Savil. :- Leareth's spies might already have heard about this, it'll be all over the city soon -: 

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:Van.: Savil answers him privately as well, her mindvoice tight. :This - you know Leareth is the only explanation that makes sense.: 

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Trudge trudge trudge through the snow. :I'm not sure it makes sense for Leareth either. It's - not his style.: 

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:Maybe you don't really know the man.: 

Pause.

:Makes a lot more sense if it was only the first step. Destabilize our alliance with Karse and throw Haven into chaos right before he drops an army on us. And - if that's what it was, he's not going to like that our visitor messed things up for him.: 

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Yfandes catches up. :Van, don't be an idiot. Both of you get on.: 

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Vanyel is distracted, still trying to pin down what part of Savil's analysis feels off – though it's not like he can argue with the conclusion that it's highly unfortunate if Leareth is about to find out about Blai's intervention. 

He blinks dully at Yfandes. :But - your hock -: 

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:Made sure I was within thirty feet. Obviously. Get on.: This times she includes Blai in her Mindspeech as well. 

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It's not much less conspicuous for a man in clearly foreign armor to be seen riding pillion with a Herald, but at least it'll be faster to reach somewhere shielded and private. Vanyel can help Blai up, if he wants help. 

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Vanyel looks a little like if Blai takes a hand up he'll pull Vanyel down into the snow instead but between the two of them they can get Blai on the Companion.

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Then they can be back at the Palace in only a couple of minutes! Vanyel doesn't lead them back to the guest wing; he heads straight for the Heralds' meeting wing. 

:It's more shielded here: he explains. :And I think we owe you a little more of an explanation.: He hasn't actually heard word, but almost certainly the Senior Circle will be meeting about this, right? 

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Indeed, Dara is also converging on the meeting-wing; they catch up with her as she's swinging herself down from Rolan's back. 

"Van! Are you all right?" 

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:You should Mindspeak, Blai doesn't speak Valdemaran. I'm fine. Wasn't injured and I'd be fine even if I had been.: He manages a brief smile in Blai's direction. :And a lot of people are fine who'd be dead otherwise. Select Blai, this is Herald Dara, the Monarch's Own - the King's second-in-command, more or less.: 

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Dara looks about twenty, but she also looks calm, like this isn't anywhere close to the first emergency she's dealt with. :Select Blai. A pleasure, and - thank you.: 

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:You're welcome, I'm glad I could help.:

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Vanyel looks seriously at her. :I think we owe Blai more of an explanation. Of - what we're worried about. He put himself at risk to help us, and not just from whatever that creature was.: 

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...Dara nods. :Whoever sent it will have been watching to see if it worked.: 

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Vanyel hesitates. 

:...It's not certain that anyone sent it. It could have just come out of the Pelagirs.: 

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:And evaded the Web? And gone straight for the Queen and her heir?: 

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Shrug. :It's resistant to magic, and moving water would blur it anyway. ...It would admittedly be an awfully big coincidence, who it went after.: 

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:That kind of coincidence just doesn't happen.: 

Dara shakes her head, more in confusion then negation.

A moment late she reaches out again to Vanyel, privately. :...It's also a pretty big coincidence that he arrived here when he did. In our favor, or apparently, but...I'm not sure I like it.: 

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Vanyel hadn't failed to notice that either, but he just shakes his head. 

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:Right.: Dara addresses Blai again. :We're calling a meeting with the senior Heralds. Everyone who can make it should be here shortly. I'm sure you understand that - some of it is private - but Vanyel is right. You didn't have to do what you did, for us, and - if drawing attention to yourself to save our people put you in danger then you do deserve to know why.: 

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:I don't actually think I need very much of an explanation in exchange for fighting a monster to rescue a child!:

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Dara blinks, and then smiles at him. :You sound a lot like a Herald.: 

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Vanyel doesn't smile. :Maybe not. But I would hate to be stuck in another world, in a confusing situation, and missing as much context as you are. ...And it's very possible that we could use more of your help, but we don't have enough context on your magic to know what to ask for, necessarily.: 

They reach a meeting room. 

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Tran is there ahead of them. :I'm Herald Tantras. You must be Select Blai. It sounds like you handled yourself well out there.: 

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:And here's Treven, he's the King's heir and - will be standing in for him here.: There's a brief hesitation in there, as though she's not sure what to say. 

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Treven looks even younger than Herald Dara. He nods to Blai. 

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:Good morning.:

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:Right.: Vanyel is going to head for a chair. He's in a particularly impatient mood, mostly because of the headache. 

:Let's not wait for the others - I assume we'll need to discuss plans and Blai doesn't need to sit in on that, but we should figure out what is relevant to him. Blai, you already know that we were anticipating a potential war with a powerful mage based north of Valdemar. The larger context is that I was more or less destined to fight him. The circumstances of my Gifts awakening: only the very slightest hitch in his mindvoice, :meant that I'm unusually powerful, the events were - suspicious for various gods having intervened to set it up that way - and, anyway, twenty years ago I started having a recurring Foresight dream of trying to stop his invasion: 

:A while later, it became a lucid dream, and - we were both in it. To his surprise as much as mine. I'm still not sure if it was the same god-intervention or a separate one with a different goal. We've spoken fairly regularly since then. I learned that he's immortal and nearly two thousand years old - we're fairly sure it's a setup that lets him take over the bodies of his descendants when he's killed, which has apparently been frequently because our world's gods don't like him. He claims to be working to improve the world for everyone, and that the gods are the problem because they prevent civilization from advancing. I don't know if that's his real motive. The plan he has - that he claims to have - for what to do about it is fairly horrifying. I don't think the details are relevant, except that the first step is invading Valdemar.: 

:...I wouldn't have expected him to attack without warning. He's not willing to back down from his objective here, but he seemed willing to explore if we could - come to some agreement that didn't involve a war - and he didn't seem in a hurry. But he does have the capabilities to send an attack like this and I don't know of anyone else who would. If it was him, he's likely already aware that it didn't work, and would want to get rid of the obstacle. And, of course, there's the possibility that this was meant to be the first step before an invasion. I don't know - I'm incredibly confused about all of this, it's not out of character for him to be willing to kill a child but it's an unusually baffling plot for him - but I am afraid that we might be in exactly the situation I was trying to avoid by - being careful, before.: 

 

Pause. 

:- I'm sorry. Whatever really happened here, this isn't your war, and I wish we could have avoided dragging you into it.: 

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:...are the local gods in fact preventing civilization from advancing?:

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Vanyel looks startled, in a faintly approving way.

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(Tran looks startled in a way that isn't approving at all.) 

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Vanyel seems to be choosing his words carefully, and carefully not-looking at Tran. 

:He made some compelling arguments. It's difficult for me to assess, not having personally been around for two thousand years. I don't know to what extent he could have - heavily selected what evidence he showed me. I know he's - better at arguments than me, in general - and I'm not sure that correlates with being right. ...And I don't know what the alternative looks like, right, maybe in a world with no gods at all people would still be plenty capable of - wasting resources on pointless wars and never building anything new that lasts.: 

Shrug. :My read is that he believes what he's saying, and - has some justification - I don't actually know if that adds up to him being right.: 

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:A lot of the 'evidence' he's given you was projects he tried. Maybe the gods have a good reason to oppose his projects, even the ones that aren't horrible except for giving him more resources to do horrible things later.: 

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Vanyel glances at Tran, his expression mild. It seems like maybe, perhaps, there might be some kind of history there. 

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:Okay. Uh, thank you for explaining. I doubt that I would be very useful on the offensive against an archmage especially in a command structure that isn't accustomed to third-circle clerics as a standard phenomenon, and would want to do slightly more research than this to do so anyway, but if you want me out of the way, or put to use for healing purposes, I don't need any more information than I have right now for that.:

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Nod. :Your Healing is absurdly powerful compared to ours in some circumstances, so - that offer is appreciated.: 

 

Vanyel is finding that he isn't sure he wants Blai anywhere near Haven when they find out what happens next. He's - having trouble entirely pinning down why? Because he doesn't want to put Blai in danger, is part of it, and because it would be devastating for everyone involved if Leareth got his hands on Blai and figured out a way to use his powers against Valdemar, but he thinks that's not all of it...

A quiet thought in the back of his mind: they've been given more than enough reason to trust the man, but much less reason to trust his god. 

Leareth's paranoia must be rubbing off on him. Am I really thinking that? But - Dara isn't wrong that the timing here is incredibly suspicious, even if so far the coincidence seems to have been in Valdemar's favor. 

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Dara smiles at Blai. :I think that's all. Do you need anything else in the next couple of candlemarks?: 

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:I'm not certain I can find my way back to the room I was lent.:

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:- I never managed to send that trainee over to you, sorry. We did assign someone but then it - sort of got dropped in all the confusion. I'll have him come over and meet you to walk you back to the guest wing.: 

To Yfandes, :- find out where Ravan's gotten to?: 

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:All the trainees were told to return to their quarters and stay there. I'll tell his Companion we need him after all. In the meantime, why don't I stay with Blai and start heading that way?: 

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:Yfandes will walk with you until the trainee we assigned catches up: Vanyel relays. 

(Should they be sending Blai back to the guest quarters? It's not like it's public knowledge where he's staying, but it's hardly a secret either, and he's not not conspicuous walking around the Palace grounds.) 

:- Here, borrow my cloak.: He passes it over. :It'll make you stand out less, and you're not dressed for the weather -: Actually, are Blai's clothes still wet? He suddenly feels terrible for having failed to think about that at all sooner. 

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:I have Endure Elements up and it will last till this time tomorrow, but for the sake of being inconspicuous...: Cloak.

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Then Vanyel will walk him back out to where Yfandes is waiting for him. 

 

The weather is already turning for the worse; no one is making it a priority to stay on top of their weather-magic efforts, and the magic being thrown around doesn't help either. The wind is picking up, bank of clouds is scudding in from the north, and the temperature is already dropping. 

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Under Endure Elements it feels like a pleasantly brisk spring day, just warm enough that he's not fussed about the evaporating lakewater.

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Trainee Ravan catches up with them halfway. He's a skinny fourteen-year-old whose only qualifications for this duty are that, one, he's a strong Mindspeaker - strong enough not to get tired even if he has to spend all day holding a link to someone un-Gifted, which isn't trivial - and, two, according to Shallan he's reasonably level-headed for a youngster and at all capable of tact. 

He bobs his head nervously. :I'm Trainee Ravan. Herald-Mage Vanyel said I'm to stay with you and help you with anything you need. And walk you back to the guest wing, I guess.: 

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:Thank you, Trainee Ravan.: Blai will follow where he leads.

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Trainee Ravan is not very chatty. He leads Blai back to the building without saying anything. :Er, do you remember which room is yours?: 

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:I think so.: Is it this one? It is, hooray.

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Trainee Ravan will...awkwardly hover by the door trying to hold open a Mindspeech link without actually reading surface thoughts, in case Blai thinks of any questions? 

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Blai is going to take off his armor, since he's just sitting around and the padding will take forever to dry if it's not wrung out and hung up - he'll wring it out in the privy, seems politest - and then he pulls out the Acts from his bag which he left in here and study it, occasionally looking ceilingward in private prayer.

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It would be rude to interrupt and Ravan doesn't. He can play word-games with his Companion via Mindspeech to avoid getting too bored. 

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A candlemark or so later, unbeknownst to Blai, Jisa slips into the building, parks herself in an adjacent unused room, and opens her Othersenses. 

(There was a contentious debate on whether to read the poor man's mind again. Vanyel was against, but not unwilling to be convinced. Jisa, once summoned into the meeting she technically had no reason to be invited to so they could ask about it, was also against, but only mildly; she doesn't have the sense that Blai would consider it a horrifying betrayal, to check his intentions and reaction to the recent events before they take costly measures to ensure his safety.) 

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He is praying. In a remarkably businesslike way. Iomedae, I do not know if I will ever be able to return to Golarion and I am uncatechized and novice to Your teachings, and there is absolutely nothing in this book about showing up in a place where your entire faith is unknown, because Aroden was known across the whole world. I think I am solid on Law all things considered but grievously unpracticed in Good. I think these people among whom I have landed are Good, but I know that I landed among them at what was most likely random, since I doubt that altering my trajectory rated Your notice, and so I am committing to little while operating openly and honestly. Tomorrow I am going to want an Aura Sight maybe or at least a Detect Evil. I am confused about their gods, who seem to work all but anonymously and in a group, like a school of fish. If this place is divinely governed by a Good coalition please help me to see that and cooperate with them, and more urgently if it is an Evil coalition or one readily turned toward Evil aims please let me see that, before I am too promised to act on it. The strength and the danger of Law is that it commits, when it does, without leaving any unspoken line of retreat. Please help me remember that in such a strange land I may need to speak some lines of retreat. Maybe I will copy the bit about resigning on grounds of conscience from the Lastwall handbook except that I am not sure any of the things I have are a conscience. Is imagining what You would have of me a conscience? I hope it's close enough. If ever I can go home please help me to meet Your Church in a condition such that they will have me, and if I never can please help me guess so that I can arrive in Heaven to be advised from there rather than falling short...

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That's bizarrely...touching? Jisa, lately, is deeply unsure how to feel about people who are genuinely committed to serving gods, but this particular god - goddess - seems like She must be unusually...comprehensible, or something. Which she supposes makes sense, if the claim is that in this other world it's possible for people to become gods. 

(Did Leareth ever consider doing it that way?) 

 

She is really very sure, within about five seconds, that he's not up to anything nefarious and will behave himself - will behave with as much honor and the-strange-concept-of-Lawfulness as he can - wherever he is. She doesn't need to watch his mind for long. ...She watches it a little longer anyway, just because it's kind of inspiring, and today has been a remarkably horrible day and she feels like she could use that. 

(Would Leareth get along with this goddess any better than the local gods?) 

 

...She shuts away her Othersenses and quietly leaves the building and goes to report back to the Senior Circle. 

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They leave Blai alone for another candlemark after that; there's more to argue about, and Savil needs to talk to Brightstar, who's been helping take about the dead monster's body to learn what they can from it, in the process pinning down the remnants of its magical signature in preparation to concert-cast the pastwatching spell.

She would actually much rather save her energy for the pastwatching spell, but it's not obvious that getting Blai out of Haven is less time-sensitive. 

 

She arrives at his guest room. 

:If you're willing, we think it would be a good idea to - at least temporarily - relocate you to somewhere out of Haven, where we're pretty sure the mage we're fighting can't operate. We may ask for your help once we - know more of what we need help with.: 

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:All right. Where am I going?:

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:The place is called k’Treva Vale. It’s in the Pelagirs, but the Vale itself is magically protected. More importantly, it’s deep in the territory of the Star-Eyed Goddess and we believe the mage we’re fighting has no way to reach you there. The Tayledras are our allies.:

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Oh, that's a specific god with an identifying title! :What can you tell me about the Star-Eyed Goddess?:

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:She works closely with the Tayledras people and another group, the Shin'a'in, who guard some - very dangerous old artifacts - which we learned are buried underground in a place called the Dhorisha Plains. She made a - sort of magical pact - with the original tribes that eventually split into those two groups, shortly after a war between two powerful mages - er, our immortal mage was one of them but it's debatable how much it was actually his fault - caused the disaster we call the Cataclysm. She helped them survive in exchange for the Tayledras working to repair the damaged land and the Shin'a'in mounting guard duty. She chooses warriors among the Shin'a'in - a little like Heralds, but honestly not very much - and some of them become sort of spirit guides after they die. She also gave the Tayledras a powerful kind of magic called Heartstones, which they use to anchor the protective magic on the Vales. We built one in Haven, so - apparently She approves of Valdemar at least that much.:

It's apparent to someone paying attention that Savil's feelings about the Star-Eyed Goddess are much more characterized by "vague unease" than "worship." 

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Well, his association with ancestral pacts obliging an ethnicity to follow a specific god in a damaged world that is hostile to human life is.......... Nidal. He updates his mental image of the archmage up north to something more like Geb without the undead-specifically obsession. And probably not specifically being a ghost. :But you don't have a known alignment for Her, or - a philosophy beyond wanting the damaged land repaired?:

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:I don't know how we would possibly know Her 'alignment'. She seems fine?: The overtones are that Savil mostly doesn't see this as particularly relevant to her. :The Tayledras are - somewhat like Heralds, in the part where they do live dangerous lives in Her service, but with a lot more nice little luxuries, thanks to Her magic.: 

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:What does Her magic do exactly?:

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Savil is in kind of a hurry, honestly. She wasn't expecting a pile of questions, though in hindsight obviously he has them. :Let's start heading to the permanent Gate-terminus while I answer your questions. Ravan, thank you, you can head back to the trainees' wing: 

She starts walking. 

:Right, so I don't know how your world's magic works, but here it's very difficult to tie any kind of mage-artifact or set-spell to a power source that renews itself. There are a few other techniques, very advanced magic we don't have, but - the thing Heartstones do is to provide something like a node, linked into the local ley-lines and fed by them, that - provides a scaffolding to anchor arbitrarily complex spells. The Vales are protected by very powerful shields, permanent weather-barriers - it's always summer inside - and they have remarkably sophisticated wards, they can watch the whole area for dangerous Pelagirs beasties. ...I suspect there's more, they trust me pretty far in k'Treva but I wouldn't expect they trust me with all their secrets. I do know that it gives you a way to contact Her directly, if you're desperate, but I wouldn't recommend it.: 

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Blai follows her agreeably. :Understood.:

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:Any other questions? They have plenty of Mindspeakers there, you'll be able to communicate, and I'm sure they'll be happy to answer your questions about magic and gods. Better than I can, for the second one.: 

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:I'm ready.:

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Then Savil won't bother with any chitchat while they trek the rest of the way through the Palace grounds to the wing where the permanent Gate-terminus is built. She shoos away some servants, not that it probably matters much if there's one more rumor spreading about Blai when he's about to be safely elsewhere, but she would still rather their destination wasn't observed. 

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Savil has more years of experience with Gates than just about anyone in else in Valdemar. She's heading for the main threshold in the central courtyard of the Vale - it's not a permanent Gate but it's been used thousands of times and some of the Gate structure is baked into it - and it takes her about a second and a half to realize that her search-spell isn't landing. 

 

:...Huh. That's odd.: She drops it. :Sorry, I'm - not quite sure what the problem is - maybe they took their threshold down for repairs?: Her mind is halfway on the meeting she's missing right now and she really doesn't need more complications. :I'll contact them with the comms spell, ask where's all right to Gate in.: She had been hoping to avoid the additional casting, she needs to save her energy for tonight, but it's also not a bad idea to give them some warning she's coming. 

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Nod nod.

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....The comms spell to Starwind doesn't go through. 

 

Maybe he's busy. Savil shakes her head and tries Moondance. No...? Riverstorm?

By the time she's tried half a dozen people, she's - fairly confident that something is horribly wrong. Her expression goes from irritated to concerned to completely blank. 

:- Something is wrong.: Her mindvoice is toneless. :I don't like this. I'm going to try nearby in case they bloody burned down the Vale or something. ...Step back, just in case it's worse than that - I don't know what kind of Pelagirs monster could take out a Vale -

Savil has dozens of Gate-locations outside the Vale proper, from scouting over the years. She picks one a mile out, a cave with a conveniently archlike opening that some scouts reinforced with clay a while back, and - closes her eyes and centers and grounds, briefly, before she starts to raise the Gate. 

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Blai has put his armor back on and the backpack over it, since he was about to be moved to a new location, and she's seen him in a fight, but perhaps it will be worse in some exotic magical way he won't understand; he steps back.

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Savil has no idea what to expect. She's stepping back too, as far as she can without actually leaving the room - it's shielded, she wouldn't be able to reach the Gate-terminus, but she has practiced holding Gates where she had to be out of the way of people crossing, she can cast it from ten paces - and she has all of her shields raised. 

 

 

A mage casting through a permanent Gate-terminus isn't directly in contact with the spell; there's still a link to the search-spell "inside" her shields, but with significant power coming through the Haven Heartstone, it's not a wide link, and it feeds through a beautifully complex work of mage-artifice, years in the making, before contacting the other end of the Gate as she forms it in k'Treva Vale. 

(Something feels off in a way she can't describe even in the fraction of the second before the Gate snaps into place, and Savil doesn't abort but she's definitely holding the spell...gingerly...and ready to slam it down if whatever is on the other side is something they badly need not to get loose in Haven.) 

 

All of those factors together mean that it doesn't instantly kill her, when the Gate opens onto a scene of devastation. 

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Only part of the degree of devastation is visible to Blai with ordinary eyes. 

 

There's a forest. The trees look...not quite natural, too twisted and sinuous. They're also flattened as though in a violent gale, branches splintered, larger trees listing sideways (all in the same direction) with their roots half pulled from the ground, many smaller trees uprooted entirely. 

One side of every tree is blackened. A few spots are still smoking gently. 

There are a few patches of snow still in the lee side of some particularly large trees, but mostly the dark ground is covered in pools of steaming water. 

The pools are glowing very faintly even to ordinary eyes. 

 

 

Something washes through the Gate. (Ambient magic doesn't cross Gate-thresholds, usually. It's possible to direct attacks through them, at the cost of making the Gate significantly more tiring to hold, but it's a nontrivial skill. Whatever ambient mage-energy is on the other side, so 'hot' that it's leaking through into visible light, does not care at all about the fact that this is supposed to be difficult.) 

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Savil lets out a startled yell and instinctively wrenches herself free of the spell as though dropping a scorching-hot pan, rather than taking the Gate down properly. She starts to stumble backward, and runs into the wall; she had already backed up as far as she could go. 

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Which means the Gate stays up for almost another entire second, wavering and unstable, energy bleeding through it until the strange usually-invisible membrane of the Gate-structure starts to shimmer like an uncanny cross between a soap bubble and a heat-mirage - 

 

- and then the set-spells built into the threshold finally come apart and the Gate comes down. 

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Savil collapses in a boneless heap. 

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It's getting through the Endure Elements, it's not supposed to be able to do that - what the fuck - he expends his Create Food and Water on getting Savil up -

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Savil wakes up with an unhappy noise, but she's been knocked out in fights before; she orients quickly, and sits up, a little dizzily. "Ow." Her limbs are working fine, but her mage-channels are very displeased and her reserves are drained to the dregs, she must have expended everything on her shields before they went down - 

 

- something happened, she's still piecing together what but she was with the visitor from another world, going somewhere - 

 

- oh good there is is. Ow ow ow Mindspeech is not fun, though the backlash could be a lot worse, she's at least fairly sure it's not causing her additional damage. 

:Blai are you all right - did you -: 

They're in the Gate-terminus room, which brings the rest back. She...doesn't remember seeing anything with her ordinary eyes, all her senses were overwhelmed by the impossibly blazing mage-energies. Her mage-sight is still mostly whited out, like the afterimages if she had stared directly into the sun for half a minute. 

:- did you see anything on the other side?: 

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:Ruined trees. Recent explosion, I think, still hot, not all the snow had melted and some of it was steaming.: He'd think it was a Wish gone wrong, but if that's plausible here Savil will know.

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Savil tests if standing up will work. It does, though she's not enjoying it. 

:Well. I...don't think k'Treva is there anymore.: She leans on the wall for a moment, closing her eyes. :I think we probably don't have a permanent Gate-threshold anymore, either, but I'm not sure anyone should touch it to check. I think we should maybe get out of this room right now and lock the door, and - I need to, talk to Van, check a theory with him...

 

...doesn't make sense: she adds, almost peevishly, mostly to herself but she's still holding the Mindspeech link. :If it's - what I think - I don't see how Leareth could possibly have done it...: 

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Does she need to be supported walking? He got a faceful and his armor feels a bit heavier now but he's steady enough.

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Savil would definitely appreciate an arm to lean on, yes. She's felt worse than this before and kept fighting, she's pretty sure, but she wasn't almost eighty years old at the time, and what she wants to do is fall on her face in a soft bed and sleep for a week. 

:Kellan: she reaches out as soon as there aren't shields between her and Companions' Field; she's keyed to the shields, of course, but it's still more effort to reach through them, and Mindspeaking her own Companion hurts her head less than Mindspeaking Vanyel directly. :Emergency. K'Treva's gone. Get Van - meet us here -:

There are rooms in this building perfectly serviceable to meet in even if they're not technically the Heralds' meeting-rooms, and she's NOT in the mood to trek any further than she absolutely has to. Like that room, for example. There are some clerks working in it but Savil would like to requisition it from them and then sit down in an upholstered chair with enormous relief. 

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:They're on their way. - Van's getting Shavri, she might even know what to do about - whatever that was.: 

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:I'm amazed I'm still conscious.: Oh there's a water-jug right there. Probably someone else was using that cup earlier but Savil doesn't care. :- oh, that makes sense, probably we've got more reason to be grateful for Select Blai's goddess and his Healing.: 

She manages to make her eyes focus on Blai just long enough to check that he doesn't seem about to keel over - Shavri will be able to assess better if he's going to be all right longer term - and then goes back to staring into space and mostly failing to think. 

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Vanyel arrives at a sprint. He has his Othersenses open, reaching ahead of him - and pushes through to read Blai's thoughts directly without really thinking about it, mostly because it's the fastest way to get an answer to what just happened and it's what he would do with Savil if she didn't seem so out of it - 

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Blai will. Put down his bag because it's heavy. And hover awkwardly - oh good, Vanyel's here, he didn't want to leave Savil alone but now he can probably either sit down here or go somewhere else and sit down. He's going to want Lesser Restorations tomorrow, at least two. DO they even have Wish here though. There are probably other things that can make an explosion like that. He doesn't know them but this is another planet. It has to have been recent, too, or the temperature would have equalized and the snow would all be melted even on the far side of the trees or the hot water would at least be done putting off mist. If they'd been a little quicker about getting him packed off he'd have been blown to smithereens. Axis is supposed to be very nice but what if actually he has done something horrible here, like maybe the little girl was a shapeshifted chromatic dragon wyrmling or something, and the Judge takes one look at him and sends him to Hell. But he doesn't feel like he's dying, he feels like he needs a Lesser Restoration or maybe two of them. Should he be offering to do another channel, he's not sure the Cure Serious was enough, sometimes it comes out pretty weak and she doesn't look all there. He could probably use it himself. He feels weirdly hot and he has Endure Elements up. Unless he forgot how it works and one cast against the cold won't work for - shut UP brain he did NOT forget how Endure Elements works. He wants to take his armor off but if they're going to send him out of the room it's not easier to carry it than to wear it. Was the gate terminus thing very valuable. He doesn't have Detect Magic up because he's never been good at flint and steel, even when he was a kid he'd panic about the stray sparks, so he has Spark instead of Detect Magic and he doesn't know what anything is or does...

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Savil is sitting down and drinking water, her eyes out of focus, but she's clearly conscious, and paying enough attention to her surroundings to look up with an expression of relief and - she's really upset, actually, now that the shocked numbness is starting to wear off, k'Treva is gone and - the fact that she couldn't reach any of the people she tried means they almost certainly weren't luckily away on scout-missions at the time, or at least not far enough...

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...Well, that tells him more than he knew before, at least. Vanyel drops Thoughtsensing and looks with Healing-Sight instead. ...He's not nearly trained enough with it to tell much except that neither of them is dying and both of them have something wrong with them. 

He'll find the spare chair behind another desk, divest of it a pile of ledgers, swing it over and shove it in Blai's direction. :Sit down. We're going to meet here, I guess, once everyone catches up, and then we'll - think of somewhere else for you to stay that's more secure than the guest rooms. - How many spells do you have left, by the way, I wasn't keeping track.:  

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Blai drops into the chair. :I have my orisons, Divine Favor, Burst of Radiance, Delay Poison - it's possible I should try that on one of us, actually, though I don't know if it will work and it only postpones the effects - Hold Person and Qualm. Divine Favor and Qualm can't be exchanged for healings because they're domain spells.:

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Vanyel shoves some more papers onto a shelf and perches on the desk, tapping a restless beat on the wood with one hand. :Might be worth trying but let's wait for Shavri, she can have a look with Healing-Sight and check how bad it is and whether it's getting worse over time. Could be quite valuable to get Savil fully functional today rather than tomorrow even if it's temporary, there's a time-sensitive investigative spell we were planning to co-cast - and it's likely our Healers can do something for it in the meantime, our kind of Healing is slow compared to yours: as in, not literally instantaneous, how does that even work, :but it's very flexible. I can't tell from the names what most of those spells...do... Might be important, there are a lot of candlemarks left before tomorrow morning for - things to happen - and I'm a lot more confused than I was ten minutes ago but the situation is definitely looking worse.: 

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:Hold Person paralyzes someone. Thirty seconds. Divine Favor's a combat spell, but it doesn't cooperate with Prayer which I used against the monster so I didn't cast it then. Burst of Radiance does a bright flash area effect, dazzles or blinds people, damages Evil targets. Qualm makes a creature distracted with self-doubt and resultantly ineffectual till it takes a moment to center itself and shake it off.:

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That's a bizarrely specific spell and not one you can even do with mage-gift. Probably Leareth could figure out how to do it with a compulsion shut up not the time. 

:Honestly, not the worst defense options if, er, our mage in the north does learn about you before tomorrow and sends someone after you.: Though if being in the most protected parts of the Palace in Haven with Herald-Mages around isn't enough, probably that won't be either. :I - don't know how to think about how likely that is, right now, but as long as no one's dying I think you should save your spells rather than turning them into Healing for us– oh, here's Shavri, good -: 

He pulls her into the link. :Savil and Select Blai took a serious blast of some kind of nasty residual mage-energy left after an explosion in k'Treva. Can you have a look?: 

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Shavri is not in constant contact with a Companion, received only the most fragmentary of orders to get here from Randi's quarters as fast as possible, and - is not up to speed. 

:In k'Treva? Are they all right over the–: 

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:No:

 

Vanyel can't find the words in himself to explain any more, right now. 

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Shavri can read between the lines. 

 

She's not going to cry now. That would be stupid, in an emergency. She's not feeling much of anything. 

Savil: no obvious physical injuries, some degree of backlash, definitely exhausted with her reserves next to empty. Some kind of diffuse damage that she'll need to stare at a lot closer to make sense of, but overall in much better shape than she expected given Vanyel's explanation and the overtones that came along with it. 

How does Blai look? 

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Radiation poisoned and a little burnt but with a startling amount of underlying robustness.

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She's bouncing it to Vanyel out of habit, along with a note of ??

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:Blai used his god-magic to Heal Savil earlier. I think Savil took a bigger hit, she was the one casting the Gate - Kellan said she was unconscious until the Healing.: 

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Took a bigger hit and only has a normal human amount of life-force, which means it probably came close to killing her outright. Would have killed her, if she had been casting a freestanding Gate, or been a little bit unluckier. Shavri isn't sure what's going on with Blai's remarkable apparent hardiness, but it's convenient, the damage is a lot easier to look at when it's not half-Healed already, she can probably iterate and figure out what helps but she doesn't think she needs to be particularly worried about him. 

:How bad are you feeling compared to what's normal for you?: she asks him. She's very focused, with an almost creepy lack of expression in her mindvoice.

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:I could use a channel but not nearly urgently enough that I want to expend the last one for the day without even filling up the radius as best we can. I think I need a Lesser Restoration but it can wait until tomorrow. I'm a bit weak and shaky, but functional.:

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Shavri got enough of a report from Treven on the information Katri gathered from Blai early on that she's not completely confused by what any of that means. 

:There’s definitely some injury and there’s - something else, I think something is causing ongoing damage. Slowly, though, I’m pretty sure you’re healthy enough that your body would get on top of it given time. Is that what you think ‘Lesser Restoration’ would handle?: All she has is the unhelpful note from Katri that it helps with some conditions and doesn’t help at all with others.

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:I think so. I'd be particularly more convinced of it if Delay Poison helps, it's good for clearing up a poisoning, though it's good for a lot of other conditions too, lingering effects of things.:

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:I want to ask you later what sorts of lingering things it helps with.: No expression at all in her mindvoice. :I’m going to try something, it’ll take me a few minutes, tell me if it seems to be helping. You can keep having whatever conversation with Van in the meantime.:

Plausibly a Healing-Adept with Moondance’s skills could actually just fix the poisoning thing, given a the energy of a Healing-meld and a candle mark to work. Brightstar doesn’t have the training or the right balance of Gifts where that training would make sense - his Earthsense is a lot stronger than his regular Healing-Gift, making him better-placed to work on land rather than people. Also, she’s not sure if anyone has told Brightstar yet about—

Shavri has that thought and then puts it away like a dress she’s decided not to wear today and focuses.

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Right. They’re supposed to be meeting to figure out what to do. Are they waiting on anyone else? It’s only been a couple of minutes, probably the delay isn’t because of some third emergency and it’s just that the others are hurrying slightly less now that it’s clear no one is dying and the bigger emergency is - too late to take urgent actions to avert.

:Savil? Are you up for - trying to think this through a little?:

He includes Blai, not that he really expects Blai to have useful contributions given his lack of context, but - maybe.

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Savil scowls at him.

:Nothing makes any goddamned sense. … Leareth couldn’t have done that to k’Treva. If I’m right, and they lost containment on the Heartstone. Can you think of anything else that could have caused - that? A weapon?:

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:Maybe? But my understanding if that - if the Heartstone was working properly, it should have been able to absorb and redirect an absurd quantity of power. It might be possible to overwhelm it, but - you would expect everything for five or ten miles around to be turned to slag, from the overflow the shields managed to turn outward first. You were only a mile out, right?:  

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:Mmm. And it looked - bad, but mostly to mage-sight. The trees were apparently still tree-shaped and everything but I still can't See properly.: 

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:That's what I thought. It came down from the inside. ...I suppose Brightstar would have known for sure, but I'm–: 

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:Glad Brightstar didn't have to see that: Savil finishes for him. :And it might have killed him outright, with Earthsense as strong as his. - no, I don't know if anyone's told him yet.: 

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:Later.: Vanyel's mindvoice is flat. :So it came down from the inside. But that doesn't make any sense either, a Heartstone hasn't lost containment in - centuries, right? Longer than that?: 

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:Longer than that. It stopped when they figured out the failsafes.: 

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Nod. :So - could he have gotten someone on the inside?: No need to specify which 'he' they're talking about.

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:I've been turning it over and over, and - no, I don't see how he could have. Technically a single Adept could take down the failsafes and introduce a flaw, but it's not instantaneous - a minute, maybe half a minute - and a dozen of their most senior mages are keyed to those spells. There would be an alarm in seconds, they would have time to intervene.: 

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:...Oh. Right.: Vanyel isn't sure he had known that, actually. It might have come up, but - it might not have while he was in k'Treva. Savil had - a lot longer with them. 

He shakes his head, slowly. :I can just barely imagine that maybe he could get a compulsion on one Adept, and hide it from the others. I can't imagine a dozen.: 

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:No.

 

 

- still can't think of any other explanationthough -: 

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(Blai may to notice that he's starting to feel very slightly better. Not really any less uncomfortable - Shavri isn't focusing on that, it's not life-threatening anyway - but maybe little bit less shaky?) 

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He shakes less, accordingly. Good thing he didn't waste anybody's time being like "was that a Wish crater", seems like it was instead something totally different he had no way to know about.

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It's actually really satisfying, even fun, working to Heal someone who has this much underlying health to work with. Apparently some part of Shavri is able to notice that, even in the midst of...everything. 

 

 

(Does that make her a horrible person? ...Doesn't seem productive to feel guilty about enjoying the one kind of work she's always loved, when it's in fact the most important thing to be doing right now and not a distraction from her real priorities.) 

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:All right. This - isn't actually an explanation, but could it have been an accident? In principle? Do they ever, I don't know, take down some of the safeguards in the process of doing other work with the Heartstone?: 

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:...I guess it's not inconceivable. If multiple people were being reckless and they got spectacularly unlikely.: Pause. :That's what I would guess happened, though, if not for the timing.: 

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:With the monster attack, which definitely wasn't an accident?: Vanyel shakes his head. :Gods. I would almost wonder if - if one caused the other, somehow - if Leareth found out about k'Treva and decided it was a good time to launch an attack he already had a contingency-plan for. But that only makes sense if k'Treva happened first, and, I don't know...: 

Glance at Blai. :It looked very recent, right? Most of the fallout is magical, you wouldn't have been able to see it, but the ground was still hot even a mile out? Er, if you had to guess the longest it could have possibly been and still looked like that...?: 

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:I would have expected the snow to melt, or for the liquid water to cool, if it had been longer than - two or three hours, perhaps? It might depend on how cold it is there climate-wise, and how deep the snow was to begin with, but I didn't see signs of refreezing anywhere, no - splashed water that looked like it formed ice midair or on contact with a bit of wood or anything, so it can't have been that cold.:

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Nod. :That seems likely. How it looked might depend some on how much of the total heat bleed-through was upfront - at the moment the blast happened - versus from the magical residue the blast left behind still radiating heat. But - it can't have happened more than a few minutes before the monster attack, and seems most likely it happened at around the same time or a little afterward. So it can't possibly be what prompted Leareth to send an attack...: 

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Savil's eyes widen slightly. She leans forward, hands on her knees. 

:I have a ridiculous idea, hear me out. If Leareth has a strong Foreseer, they could have warned him this was coming in advance. He could have decided to set in motion his own attack for the same day and time. Maybe even with the goal that we would assume he did both, and be even more terrified of him.: 

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Vanyel frowns. :...I think I still feel confused about that. Losing k'Treva does weaken Valdemar, but not that much, and - can you imagine how much goodwill he could have gotten with us if he warned us about it instead?: 

Come to think of it, if something like that was visible in Foresight at all, surely Moondance could have gotten a warning and averted it thinking about Moondance right now is a bad idea. Vanyel blinks away tears and tries to drag his concentration back together. 

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:Right. This only makes sense if he was never really committed to the negotiations with you. But I think the attack already tells us that.: 

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Vanyel...isn't sure of that. He doesn't feel like it's already determined, yet, which world they're in. But maybe that's only because he so desperately wants to be in the world where peace is still an option, however remote...

 

:Maybe his Foreseer didn't see any detail of what happened, just - saw that we were going to get spooked and declare war. And decided to move first, to ensure he could still win.: He shakes his head, helplessly. :Gods, that would be so stupidly tragic. Like the Mage Wars all over again.: 

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Shavri is more confident now that what she's doing - mostly trying to convince Blai's body that several of the ways it's freaking out in response to the additional injury are unproductive - is helping a little. She puts more force into it. 

Blai will probably notice that he feels better - not like the damage is gone, the set of things it's helping with are very different from what a channel or a Lesser Restoration would handle, but less generically unwell about it. 

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He's not sure any of this is necessary, he'd probably be fine after a night's sleep and a spell, but it's very kind of her. :Prophecy on Golarion doesn't work any more but there were spells about it, is that something it would be useful for me to spend a slot on tomorrow?:

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 …See, this is exactly why Vanyel thought it might be a good idea to include Blai in this. He’s still getting used to the sheer variety of highly specific things that Blai’s magic can do.

:Quite possibly, if we’re still this confused in the morning. Er, what exactly would the spell do and what questions do you think you could help answer with it? Our Foresight isn’t - replicable, the way a spell is.:

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:Well, I... don't know, since prophecy has been broken since well before I was born. I would be looking in the Acts of Iomedae for references to prophetic spells and asking till I found one low-circle enough for me to cast and then I'd have a loose sense of it but it'd take experience with the spell to give you a better rundown.:

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Savil looks slightly disappointed. :So - kind of a long shot, and if there is a spell we won’t know how useful it is until after you cast it.: At the expense of some other spell he could have asked his god for instead, of course. 

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Vanyel manages a smile at Blai, who probably could use encouragement given, well, everything about him as a person that Vanyel was able to pick up by reading his mind.

:It’s worth looking into, though. Thank you for bringing it up. - hmm, is there anything else in your holy text that might be - valuable for reasoning about this situation?:

(He’s not especially hopeful; he’s mostly trying to think of a way Blai could occupy the rest of today so he’s not just fretting about his situation while the Heralds have the rest of their emergency meetings without him. But, well, Blai’s goddess does seem potentially more helpful than any god Vanyel has encountered before.)

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:Iomedae spent nearly the entirety of her mortal life at war and says in several places that it's among the most tragic of human endeavors. I expect that if she were here she'd try to negotiate a peace. But suspecting this doesn't give me the skills to do it in her stead nor the certainty that it's in fact possible. I could try to produce more constructive guesses if I knew more about the history of the hostilities and what you've already tried?:

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Vanyel nods. There's a flash of something like longing in his eyes, before his expression smoothes back to neutral. 

 

:The whole thing is a very long story. ...I do think our fundamental problem is that Leareth is fine with going to war, it was his plan in the first place, and he expects to win and is probably right to. I'm sure he would prefer to save the resources - even if he's lying about having any humanitarian motives, wars are still expensive - but he's been explicitly unwilling to consider any concessions on his end that would compromise his chances of pulling off his plan. I think from his end, he was hoping to convince me to help him take over Valdemar, and on our end we're - mostly buying time, and I suppose the remote chance of convincing him that he'll do better if he conquers some other poor country.: 

They were talking about potential alternate power sources, too, but - what are the odds, right, if Leareth spent a thousand years looking. Also, Vanyel still feels vaguely uneasy about explaining Leareth's full plan to Blai. He hasn't pinned down what he thinks might go wrong with that, but you can't unshare a secret, and it's not like they know that much about Blai as a person, let alone about the goddess he serves. 

:Anyway. I...am surprised, actually, that he would have attacked without communicating that he was calling off the negotiations. He's - very consistently given the impression that he cares about keeping his word, once he's actually made a commitment. But that could just be an impression he wanted to give me, and - it's unclear that he would consider himself to have explicitly committed to no surprise attacks? He committed to waiting at least a year before making any mmoves, at one point, while I - investigated some questions - but I don't think it cost him much, I think he wasn't planning to invade that year anyway. Also that was multiple years ago now and we haven't renegotiated.: 

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:He might be Lawful - I know you don't have that as an ontological concept here but some people are just temperamentally Lawful even without having it inculcated specifically. It wouldn't stop him from also being Evil and it certainly wouldn't protect anyone without a negotiated agreement if what he wants is a fight. There's alignment-detecting spells but I'd need to be near him and able to see him, to use them, but - sounds Lawful Evil to me. Do you have allied neighbors who'll come to your defense if he invades, is that what you were doing with the time you bought, or were you trying to lay groundwork to make mass evacuation viable - possibly not even very mass, if you expect civilians to come off all right, if I recall correctly that he isn't a legions-of-undead sort of person, though I guess the blood magic thing suggests another reason civilians will not come off all right... Does he have an ambassador here or vice versa or are you just sending letters or using communication spells?:

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"Temperamentally Lawful even though he's Evil" is a fascinating lens on Leareth. Especially the way Blai seems to be thinking about it, like it's a known shape that a person can be, not a baffling exception. 

 

:I do have some routes to exchange letters if we need to communicate outside the dreams, but we've mainly just communicated in the dreams, they're very convenient. We had discussed one of us sending an ambassador but hadn't agreed on an arrangement yet.: 

Mostly because Randi wanted the Senior Circle in agreement on it and Tran was never going to be. In hindsight, it feels like...probably something about how those decisions were handled was a mistake. They've had years. All of those years made of up days and candlemarks and minutes that individually felt rushed, never enough time to try to untangle the complex disagreements within the Senior Circle, never time to step back and reconsider everything from the ground up – but every time Vanyel has caught himself in that pattern before, it was always a mistake...

:We do have allied neighbors. We're probably going to start calling in our alliances, after this.: Not the Tayledras, though, it's too late for that now. :The civilians - wouldn't be all right in the long run - but I don't think mass evacuation was ever going to be viable, mostly because I have no idea where you would put nearly a million people without invading somewhere else, which Valdemar categorically doesn't do.: 

Sigh. :For what it's worth, I think you could be right about Leareth being - generally inclined to act in the ways your world calls Lawful. We don't have that concept and it - mostly means that he's very baffling as a person, when he's explicitly willing to cross all sorts of lines but then claims to take some random subset of them very seriously.: 

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:Do any of your neighbors have embassy relationships with him, or would they be interested in receiving evacuees in exchange for a step down in their military alliance committed -? It wouldn't be a random subset, though I can't guarantee exactly which subset it might be particularly well. It's not like every independently Lawful person is guaranteed to feel the same way about every thing Law is understood to touch on, and a lot of Law rests on the - underlying ability to make commitments rather than on any commitments having already been made.:

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:He's - not really doing the sort of thing where countries would have embassies with him? I wouldn't say that he's leading a country, more that he - has a secret organization, kind of. It's possible that if not for the Foresight dream, we wouldn't have had any idea he existed until he invaded us.: 

He frowns absently. :The Queen of Karse, our southern neighbor, does know about him, because we warned her - er, I don't actually know if this came up yet, but the Queen of Karse and our King are in an alliance-marriage and Arven, the little girl you saved, is their daughter together.: Officially speaking, that is. :It's how we ended the war with Karse a few years ago and made it stick. We have a mutual defense treaty with our other southern neighbor, Rethwellan, and - I suppose it's not impossible they would be willing to discuss taking our refugees instead. ...I don't believe they're aware that Leareth exists.:  

Because Treven didn't tell Queen Lythiaren, because it would have weakened his position for renegotiating their treaty. Vanyel is suddenly obscurely embarrassed about that. It seems like Blai's world, or at least the teachings of Blai's goddess, might be unimpressed with that or something. 

:Hardorn, our eastern neighbor, probably can't help or accept evacuees. –ohhh, right, and our neighbor to the northeast, Iftel, also knows about Leareth and is likely to commit their military forces to help us in a war. But it's - somewhat complicated - they also follow Vkandis Sunlord, the god worshipped in Karse, and would be fighting because they believe Vkandis wants Leareth defeated. I'm...somewhat reluctant to call on their aid unless we're - more sure than I feel right now - that this was definitely the opening attack in a war and not - not something we're somehow misunderstanding.: 

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:Is he planning, should he successfully conquer Valdemar, to operate it as a country? If he means to do that imminently and he's on top of his logistics he might have diplomats in preparation for it that he could be asked to deploy early. It sounds like you should be leveling with Rethwellan if they're your most potentially helpful neighbor, and a power-mad archmage is everyone's problem anyway. What should I know about Vkandis?:

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:...He must have plans for diplomacy with Valdemar's neighbors if he conquers us, that's - a good idea.: That had never occurred to Vanyel before right now, probably because he's an idiot.

(And, maybe, because he didn't really want to think about it as though the possibility of losing this war was? Maybe it never quite felt relevant to him, since in that world he would almost certainly be dead, and - he's spent most of his life, definitely all the long years before Stef, on some level quietly waiting for that inevitable ending, when the world would no longer be his problem.) 

Focus. :We obviously need to tell Rethwellan, especially if we're urgently asking them for military aid.: The Comb will be impassible this time of year, which means the only feasible way is a Gate - Jisa has Gate-locations in Rethwellan - nevermind, think about the logistics later. 

:Vkandis. Hmm.: Vanyel has a feeling that Blai is going to have a lot of questions that seem incredibly reasonable except for how it had literally never occurred to him, or anyone else here, that they're the sorts of questions that could have answers. 

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Savil has already tried to answer some of Blai's questions about gods and has a better idea of what he's looking for. 

:Vkandis is - overall harder to communicate with than the Star-Eyed Goddess, I think, but in some ways intervenes more? Definitely more cases I've heard of of obvious one-off miracles worked through one of His priests, though not your world's sort of standardized god-magic. Queen Karis has a Suncat, who's - sort of like a Companion in some ways, Suncats are intelligent magical beings that show up sometimes to advise monarchs or high priests in Vkandis' service.

...Iftel, right, they're protected by a magical shield-wall that we believe Vkandis powers directly. I think they claim it was a similar type of agreement to the one I mentioned with the Star-Eyed, in the aftermath of the Cataclysm, except the work they do in exchange is...more or less quietly maintaining an emergency army. Maybe because Vkandis wanted the ability to act in situations exactly like this one.: 

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:I guess that's a good reason, though I'd expect there to be useful ways to... loudly... maintain an emergency army! He's hard to communicate with but will be able to direct or confirm strategies for the army?:

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:I don't have the slightest idea.: 

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:I think He could send a vision to His priest in Iftel if He wanted to. - come to think of it, the high priest in Karse spoke a prophecy a while back that we assume Vkandis wanted us to hear. I can look up the exact words but I would not describe it as incredibly helpful.: 

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Shavri clears her throat. 

:Blai, I'm pretty sure you'll be fine. If your channel goes to waste if you don't use it today, then you might as well Heal yourself and as many people as we can find who need Healing from injuries specifically, though - if it were me making that decision, I might be inclined to wait until evening, in case anything else goes disastrously wrong and a lot more people need Healing. ...Savil, I can't fix the backlash but I can probably get you feeling more like yourself, if you absolutely need to be doing more magic today.:

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Sigh. :Unfortunately I think we need to cast the pastwatching spell before tonight, and I know it better than Van does, I should lead. And there's a lot that should ideally also happen today, if we're preparing to hold off an invasion.: 

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Nod. :Blai, if you think the spell that fixes poisoning might help, it sounds like Savil being in better shape would be awfully helpful.: 

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:Of course. Now? It'll last a bit over five hours.:

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:How much does it - fully cancel out the process causing more damage - versus just masking the symptoms of it? Could Savil end up in worse shape five hours from now than she would have been otherwise, if she's able to push herself harder on casting?: 

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:I don't know at all how it'll interact with your casting; mine isn't tiring in the same way. If this counts as a poison, she'll stop getting worse for those hours, but a Delay doesn't in and of itself heal or clear a toxin.:

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:...Well, since she's absolutely going to ignore me if I suggest not doing any more casting today, I suppose it seems better than the alternative if she's not also getting worse from a poison.: Narrow-eyed look at Savil. :Do what you've got to do and then come to the House of Healing before it wears off.: 

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Savil nods, tightlipped. :Now is good: she tells Blai. 

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"Delay Poison."

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Shavri watches with Healing-Sight for a long moment. 

:..That definitely did something. You're right, it didn't get rid of any damage that's already there, but it's not getting worse. Savil?: 

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:...I've felt better, but I've definitely felt worse. I can cast like this.: She still has a headache but that's mainly the backlash and she can get some willowbark for it. :Van?: 

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:We need to decide where we're putting Blai, I don't want to send him back to the guest rooms. ...Actually, if you're just going to the House of Healing later, how about your suite? It's plenty shielded: better than almost anywhere apart from the royal suites, Vanyel often finds it soothing when he can't sleep to go reinforce the shields some more, :you have a spare bedroom, and I can hop into a Work Room and Gate him there so no one sees him go in. Blai, does that seem all right to you?: 

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:I don't object.:

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Vanyel very much appreciates how accommodating he's being, and - well, he probably is freaking out internally, but he's not making it anyone else's problem. He can't think of a way to say that that isn't patronizing, so he just smiles tiredly. 

:I think I would rather not bring in a trainee again, now that you're, er, more involved in our planning. Yfandes will be able to reach you, she can check in every so often and pay enough attention that she'll notice if you're yelling for help in surface thoughts. I have alarm-wards on the suite, I should know immediately if anything happens, but - hopefully it won't because no one will know you're there.: 

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:Yfandes is -?:

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:Sorry, my Companion - she gave us a ride earlier and walked you to the guest rooms - I think I forgot to properly introduce you.: 

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:Ah, I see.:

And he makes no fuss about being ensconced in Savil's guest room to read and pray and, eventually, if left undisturbed, sleep.

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They cast the pastwatching spell. 

 

 

They track the creature back to a tributee of the Terilee River, west of Riverford. It...was there for a while, apparently, happily feeding on fish. 

Four days back, and its magical signature moves again. Upstream. North - but only a little, and then west, west, west, until they can't follow it any further. 

 

 

It came out of the Pelagirs. It might have originated not that far from k'Treva Vale. 

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That doesn't make any sense

 

 

The obvious explanation, of course, is that Leareth was lying about not being able to operate in the Pelagirs, because he didn't actually need to and it was convenient for Valdemar to falsely believe they had that advantage. 

Vanyel...is not sure that theory leaves him much less confused? 

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The Heralds (minus Savil, at the House of Healing, and Randi who's in his sickbed) have a meeting. It might be described as a very long argument. 

 

 

Nothing disastrous happens before nightfall. 

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It would be polite to update Blai. But they've spent nearly six candlemarks going in circles by the time Vanyel finally calls it a night, and he can't face it. What if Blai has questions

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Shavri does try to Mindspeak him, eventually – kind of late at night, he may already be asleep – to clarify if his channel goes to waste if they don't use it today, and what the latest point is that he can use it if so. They don't actually have anyone with injuries that their Healing can't handle; it's peacetime, even if they have no idea how long that will last, and at any given time most of the patients at the House of Healing are there for illnesses or more complicated problems.

Also, while it's probably too late to prevent wild rumors, bringing him in to Heal more people won't help, and - one obvious thing for Leareth to do, if he did receive reports already of the miraculous Healing by the river, would be to have someone watching the House of Healing. Overall Shavri is inclined to say he should wait until he's about to get more and then Heal just himself? ...Maybe Savil too, it's not suspicious for her to go to her own suite. 

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At dawn, he will have exactly two channels, and that will be true whether he used one or both or neither of his channels before that time. He usually wakes up at the moment of dawn, when he can sense that it's time to start praying for spells, and would usually not try to time things closely enough to channel at himself the moment before (he usually only barely has time to pee first); it's fine to go to sleep with a channel free as an emergency backup measure, it's fine to use the last one on himself and Savil before he goes to sleep, he'll abide by their recommendation here especially if they don't have a lot of injured in their infirmary.

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They can just have someone wake him ten minutes before local dawn - assuming it's local dawn that counts, if it's dawn back on his planet they have no idea and can't do that - if the problem is that he's worried about missing it? Savil will be fine for the night and at this point seems likely to recover on her own eventually with or without Blai's magic, though "eventually" could be a long time at her age. 

 

If Blai can wait, Shavri - doesn't think it would be a bad idea to have that emergency backup measure, in case all of this was setup for Leareth to attack Haven in force in the middle of the night or something. 

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He should adjust to local dawn, yes. If you change time zones across dawn a lot then you can miss a day but just once shouldn't be a problem. If they'd like him to wait for a wakeup call at ten minutes before dawn that's fine by him.

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Shavri hesitates briefly, and - decides not to ask him to prepare a third Lesser Restoration. She doesn't think he would say no, but it might come at the cost of a spell he could end up needing to defend himself – they're asking so much of him already, she doesn't want to put more pressure on him – and she doesn't even know if it will help. On priors it won't help or at least won't help enough, even if it does fix the poisoning he and Savil suffered; Velgarth Healing could fix that too, eventually with time and effort, and they've already thrown as much time and effort and Healing-meld energy at Randi as they possibly could. 

And Randi isn't imminently dying. She can come watch when he casts it on Savil tomorrow, and make a better guess about whether it's worth getting her hopes up. 

She bids Blai goodnight. 

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Haven is not attacked in force overnight. 

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And Savil - feeling worse than yesterday but not like she's dying  - will drag herself back to her own suite, which shouldn't be suspicious to anyone since she lives there, and knock on the guest-room door to wake Blai about ten minutes before sunrise. 

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He sits up - he's got his holy symbol on him in his sleep, and it would be sort of blasphemous to blunt it, but he's got the tip of the blade wrapped in the wire used to make the rays of the sun so it doesn't impale him at night - and channels.

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....Well that did exactly nothing. Maybe because the Healing he already used yesterday is redundant with whatever this would help for? She hopes it's doing more for him. 

Whatever, she's still not dying and is capable of staying on her feet even if she's not enjoying it at all. Blai has to do...something?...to prepare spells, and Savil wouldn't want to be bothered any more than necessary first thing in the morning anyway. She'll totter over to light a fire and make chava the slow way rather than using magic. 

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Blai rubs his eyes and stretches and hits the privy and prays.

Comprehend Languages in case he wants to read anything today. Also he might be kidnapped or attacked by an evil archmage. Entropic Shield, Liberating Command, Summon Monster I. Protection from Evil.

Two Lesser Restorations. A Minor Prophecy. That's it for second circles he gets to pick even though he'd rather like to squeeze in a Resist Energy and an Owl's... alas. Qualm, as usual.

He'll take a Protection from Energy. And Prayer.

Please help him find a way for things to be better here because he arrived, Iomedae. Or don't because you're very busy and this might all be objectively unimportant in the grand scheme of things but, like, it does sound kind of important, with the evil archmage and whatnot.

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Savil considers going to take a bath, but she doesn't know how long Blai will be and also going down the hall sounds like way too much work. Whenever Blai is finished, she'll be ensconced in the cozy armchair in her tiny sitting-room, drinking chava. There's a pot of it keeping warm on top of her stove. It doesn't come out as well as when she heats the water with magic, but at least it still wakes her up. 

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Out he comes after an hour (prayer) and six seconds (Lesser Restorationing himself). :Is this a good moment for your Lesser Restoration? It worked well on me, so it should for you also.:

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:Now is an excellent time. Want some chava?: Gesture at the pot and the spare cups on the sideboard. 

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:I'm not familiar with it, but it does smell lovely.: Lesser Restoration.

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Ohhhhhhhhh that's better, it even seems to have fixed the remaining backlash.

...They should consider whether this would help Randi, actually. Maybe Shavri already considered that. 

:A lot of people don't find it tastes as good as it smells, but you can put sugar in it. It wakes you up, is the important part. Dara found it on a trip down south and brought some of the plants back: 

She'll let Blai have his first chava experience uninterrupted before she asks him if he found any Foresight-related spells in his reading yesterday. 

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He's not a huge chava fan, but he will sip his way through a small cup slowly. :Yes, I've prepared a Minor Prophecy. I think I have to cast it about a particular subject, one that's not too far away - so, not Leareth, but I could try Vanyel or something.:

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Nod. :That might be worth trying, though we should consider if Vanyel or someone else makes the most sense to cast it on.: 

She makes a face. :Nothing happened last night, that we can tell. Van is checking the northern border via the Web. ...He didn't have the Foresight dream, either, and he was expecting to, he usually does after - something new happens. We think maybe Leareth is blocking it.: 

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:...well, that bodes poorly for his willingness to negotiate.:

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:Everything that's happened in the last day bodes poorly for that.: Savil sounds very tired. :We traced the monster that attacked Arven back to the Pelagirs, the same general are as k'Treva. Which is baffling, but it probably means Leareth was lying that he couldn't operate in the Star-Eyed's territory. I still don't see how he could have taken out k'Treva, but - clearly there's a lot we're missing.: 

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:- wait, does it mean that? It means that something that operated there may have done two things, but he could have made an ally there, or summoned something that could operate there, or it could be someone else who's hoping to set you at his throat.:

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Savil has already had that conversation in dozens of iterations over candlemarks with Vanyel and does not really feel like having it again. 

:Sure, there are a lot of details we don't know about exactly how it happened, maybe he can operate there indirectly through allies or - something weird we're not going to think of - and omitted that part with Vanyel. And we did discuss whether any third parties might want us to go to war, but - however hard it is to believe Leareth has the capabilities to pull this off, it's a lot harder to believe of anyone else.: 

Except the gods. Jisa of all people was the one who brought up that they know of one party who can do whatever they want in the territory of the Star-Eyed – the Star-Eyed herself. But even Vanyel didn't buy it, however determined he was to be sympathetic to Leareth as possible, and - Savil isn't sure she wants to have that conversation with Blai at all. 

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:It does seem suspicious especially in combination with blocking the dream, but even if he's the only archmage around I'd expect there to be the occasional equivalent of an eighth circle. Is there less of a power law here?:

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:...I didn't follow half of that. My guess is that it works differently here, because Gift-potential doesn't get stronger with practice? You get outliers like Vanyel, but - that's not even what makes Leareth dangerous, Vanyel is probably stronger than him on raw power, he's just the only one who's had two thousand years to figure out how to do impossible things with magic.: 

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:Understood.:

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Sigh. :I should go check in with Dara, catch up on all the meetings I missed when I was supposed to be resting. Thank you for the Healing. I think Van or I should be able to come by in a few candlemarks and discuss your Foresight spell. Anything else you need before then - oh, we should get you some breakfast, maybe I'll call for something for myself so it's not obvious you're here.: 

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:Breakfast would be lovely, thank you.:

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Rank has some privileges in Valdemar. Savil normally eats at the Heralds' dining hall except if she's having supper with company, but she can summon a servant - quietly shooing Blai back to the guest room first - and call for a generous breakfast. Bread and butter, eggs, cheese, some fruit on the side. 

She leaves him there and heads out. 

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It's nice that there's plenty since they forgot to give him dinner and he blew his Create Food so he couldn't make it himself. He eats up.

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Leareth receives the report shortly before midnight the night before. Many candlemarks after the major events, of course, but this is how long it takes his spy on the Palace laundry staff to follow up on every rumor and local information source she can - including a number of other agents with varying degrees of awareness of who they worked for - conclude that this calls for an urgent in-person report, and then get herself safely out of Haven to a cache location, burn a one-time communication artifact usable without mage-gift on signaling for urgent pickup, via a Gate from a shielded underground room. Any mage-energy signature that leaks through should be disguised by the small forest fire she sets first. 

She's only been in place for around a year, but she has quite a few advantages; she's unsuspicious, convincingly giving the impression of a gossipy middle-aged washerwoman because for most of her life she's been exactly that. She also has a very weak Gift of Touchreading, rare enough that Valdemar doesn't currently know how to test for or recognize it. It's best understood as a specialized form of Foresight; she can touch objects and, if something emotionally significant enough happened recently enough, catch a glimpse of events surrounding the person previously in possession of said item. 

She's touched a lot of objects today, most of which told her nothing or only almost-certainly-irrelevant snippets, but they included a desk and some books from a clerk's office, and also Herald-Mage Savil Ashkevron's Whites, which she finagled to pick up from the House of Healing for laundering. 

Her report contains a small number of hard facts known with high confidence – there was definitely an attack on the Queen of Karse and her daughter at the Ice Festival, it was definitely a Changecreature – and quite a lot of word-of-mouth tidbits of less trustworthy accuracy, like the claim that a man miraculously Healed over a dozen badly wounded soldiers at once without touching them. Then there are the very large number of confusing observations that may or may not be possible to piece together into a picture. The spy has no idea what most of it means, but diligently recorded everything that could possibly be relevant.

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Leareth can put together a picture. 

He doesn't like it. 

 

One: an exceptionally powerful and dangerous Changecreature showed up and specifically attacked the Queen of Karse and her heir???? That's - well, he knows he didn't do it, and is able to confirm to his satisfaction within half a candlemark that it wasn't a misfired plan by any of the less-entirely-reliable contractors who work for him - which leaves "godplot", but...what...why...he was not expecting that. 

Two: it's well corroborated that an armed and armored man dressed in a foreign style was seen accompanying various Heralds at various points, including rushing to the scene of the attack. Second- and third-hand eyewitness accounts are a difficult source of information to work with, a lot of people were very sure they had seen something very specific that didn't quite match anyone else's recounting, but Leareth thinks he had enough evidence to conclude that the man went into the water with Vanyel's assistance and emerged a few minutes later with Savil, who later hauled out a dead Changecreature, and probably this means he was helping with the fight. 

Three: some of the rumors of large-scale miraculous Healing came via actual Healers, who probably didn't make that up from whole cloth. There are also rumors - including one overheard among the Herald-trainees - that the man was a priest of a foreign god. (No one seemed to know which god.)  

Four: at some point after some closed meetings of the Senior Circle - which Leareth knows nothing about the contents of - Herald-Mage Savil was seen accompanying the man to the core Palace wing. Some servants reported being shooed from the permanent Gate-terminus. ...Some clerks complained later about being evicted from their office by Herald-Mage Savil, looking "very unwell" and still accompanied by the foreign-dressed man. Touchreading on some of the contents of that room showed the King's lifebonded and Vanyel joining them, Shavri appearing to work some Healing, and emotional hints of stress and also grief. 

Five: Touchreading on Savil's clothes picked up a very strong impression of...something, something violent...that the spy reported left her with a headache. Also surprise and panic, and (Leareth is able to infer from her description) the impression of this happening in the Gate-terminus room. 

Six: multiple Gates were reported happening later at the Heralds' chapel outside. Not the Gate-terminus room. 

Seven: there are rumors that a Tayledras youngster was seen with Savil at the House of Healing. Their conversation if they had one was in Mindspeech, its contents private, but he apparently left very distressed and angry. 

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And what story fits those pieces together? 

 

A priest of a foreign god arrives in Haven for the Ice Festival, with perfect timing to be present for an attack on the Queen and her daughter. One that must have been nudged to look as convincingly as possible like something Leareth ordered; Vanyel knows he can create living mage-construct animals, and likely isn't ready to believe that the Star-Eyed Goddess could or would do something so hostile. 

The priest selflessly and heroically jumps into the fight. His god - whichever god it is, the Healing is most reminiscent of Anathei's style but Anathei's order doesn't have martial priests, and Leareth thinks the rumors would probably have included it if the man served Vkandis - works a flashy miracle through him, saving dozens of people.

The Heralds are of course grateful, and inclined to trust the man, and at the conclusion of some unknown conversation, they offer to bring him to k'Treva. For protection, maybe, if they're expecting an imminent invasion, but there could be all sorts of nudging involved.

His guesswork is shakier here, but: something catastrophic happens to the Vale. Savil and the priest make it back, but barely and with serious injuries, and the Gate-terminus is damaged during their frantic escape. The Heralds, of course, aren't at all inclined to be suspicious that maybe the foreign priest and an intervention from his god had something to do with it – though that's only one possible explanation, it's also possible that the Star-Eyed Goddess was directly responsible. 

Primed by the Changecreature's attack, the Heralds are ready to jump to assuming that Leareth was also responsible for whatever happened to k'Treva. 

 

 

(Leareth is reminding himself that he doesn't know the truth of what's happening in Haven. The information he has is compatible with a lot of worlds, including ones where it's not what it looks like.) 

But what it looks like is a shockingly blatant multi-part godplot to convince Vanyel that their negotiations have irreparably broken down, and drive Valdemar to war. 

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Leareth really does not want that priest in Haven, given what he's apparently willing to do on his god's orders (or, being maximally sympathetic to him, his god is willing to work through him). If this isn't enough to push Vanyel over the edge, who knows what else could still go wrong in the most suspicious possible way. 

 

However. It's possible that it's not too late, and Leareth should give Vanyel credit for being able to notice the ways that the situation makes no sense. (The other Heralds are likely easy to convince that Leareth was lying about not being able to operate in the Pelagirs, but Vanyel can probably notice that he has more information than just words – that Leareth's plans would have looked different if he had the ability to take down a Tayledras Vale on demand.) 

Vanyel may not have decided to block the Foresight dream again. It hasn't happened in a while, but - this is new information, for both of them, if anything is. 

 

He can wait one night. Get some sleep, in hopes that Vanyel will also manage to get some sleep despite the emergency. And also because it's generally a good idea to be well-rested before making significant decisions, and he's learned over the centuries that emergencies are rarely so urgent that he needs to make a decision immediately. 

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Well. Either Vanyel is blocking the dream, or the gods are. Either way, it seems like they aren't going to have that opportunity to talk. 

 

 

Leareth is taking more active risks than he usually would, trying to get up-to-date information on what's happening in Haven, and so he learns shortly after waking up that the Heralds are ordering a Council meeting, and there are rumors that they're sending or maybe already sent delegations to Rethwellan and Iftel. 

 

...Leareth doesn't want to escalate in return. It's likely to do even more to confirm Vanyel's worst fears, if he acts to get the god-agent out of Haven. But at this point it doesn't seem like inaction will go any better. 

He already delegated to Nayoki to come up with a plan. He spends ten minutes considering whether he can think of anything better, concludes that no, and settles on writing a letter for Vanyel before giving Nayoki the final go-ahead. 

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It's actually pretty nontrivial to figure out where the Heralds are keeping the foreign priest! They're being very inconveniently cautious and already moved him out of the guest wing! 

Getting more information without prematurely triggering a Web-alarm and putting the Heralds on high alert is seriously inconvenient, but overnight was long enough to get a Mindspeaker into the city. They can't risk having him skulking around the Palace, Companions can often tell at a glance when someone is Gifted, but he has the range to reach the handful of other un-Gifted agents still in place, and also to reach a mage twenty miles away who they were able to Gate in using a different shielded underground room to blur the Gate-signature and another diversion to cover the ripples in the local ley-lines. (They're benefiting from the emergency; at another time one of the Herald-Mages might have been following up more thoroughly on Web-alarms.) 

Nayoki rules out a number of places where they're pretty sure the priest isn't, and presents Leareth with some guesses for remaining options, though if they've stashed him in a randomly selected Work Room it's going to be very inconvenient to narrow down which one. 

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That would be the smart thing to do, but Leareth's instinct is that the Heralds - even Vanyel - would feel like it was a rude way to treat a guest. Nayoki should try to find out if there are any rumors among the servants of being asked to set up comfortable furnishings somewhere, but - these are the other locations he thinks are plausible - it's honestly possible they would have put him in the Heralds' wing, somewhere where Vanyel had already set up a lot of wards... 

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Nayoki narrows it down to half a dozen locations and puts nine in ten odds that he's in one of them.

Unfortunately all of them are properly shielded. The fastest way to check is to send half a dozen strike teams simultaneously. 

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If they do that, it's very likely that the Heralds will respond fast enough for someone to get seriously injured or killed trying to hold them off. Which might happen anyway, but Leareth would rather do this as neatly as possible. 

 

Leareth can target a scrying-spell from a detailed enough map and knows a wide variety of scrying techniques that can get around many types of shield. It's going to take a candlemark and be intensely exhausting and he can probably only get 'is there a person in this room who isn't expected to be' - this is not a tractable method to spy on Haven in general - but he thinks he can check half a dozen known locations and tell them which one to target. 

He thinks it's worth waiting a candlemark to make this operation somewhat less likely to cause collateral damage.

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Okay. 

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Someone is in Savil's suite. All the other rooms expected to be empty are in fact empty. 

 

 

(Leareth can't get any more than that; he got a second or so of a very blurry impression through the shields and dropped it before the total magical signature would have exceeded the threshold to set off a Web-alarm.) 

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It's going to be really awkward if the priest is set up in a Work Room somewhere or they got him out of Haven entirely and they're about to kidnap Savil's boyfriend, but oh well. 

Nayoki gives the order. 

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One of Leareth's elite mages can target a Gate from a scry on the hallway. They'll have a team of specialist mages dismantle any active countermeasures – which will trigger a Web-alarm, but it's possible it won't forewarn the man inside, if he doesn't have mage-sight. Once any traps for unauthorized visitors are down, which should take a few seconds, another mage can drop a blind Gate two yards in front of the door and the strike team will go in. 

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Total time to be in the room: less than ten seconds. Still long enough for one of the Heralds to Gate in if they're sharp, but probably not if they're interrupted in the middle of something. 

 

And Nayoki is going to go herself, because a set-command is more reliably, incapacitating and also faster than a compulsion – and in principle more likely to also block direct god-possession. Not that she's ever had a chance to test that theory. 

This is definitely one of the more dangerous things that Nayoki has done for Leareth in her years of work for him. She's tense, but not exactly scared, even though there's a higher chance than she would like that they're going to end up confronting Vanyel directly. 

 

The first Gate goes up. 

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(Three seconds ahead of that Gate, a much bigger Gate goes up in the middle of Companions' Field. Not for long, but just enough to ensure that that Web-alarm reaches the Herald-Mages' attention first.) 

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:What the - SAVIL–:

 

Vanyel is just getting up Farsight coverage on the Gate in Companions' Field, and being befuddled because that sure is a Gate but it's not...doing...anything...? - there's another Web-alarm but it takes a moment to shift his focus and figure out where it's coming from... 

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Savil is faster, and already has her attention there when she feels the attack on - her own???? - wards. 

She's outside, unfortunately, headed from one meeting to another. She has to sprint for the nearest door-shaped thing before she can raise a Gate. 

:BLAI LOOK OUT–: 

Half the wards come crashing down.

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Maybe two seconds after that, dozen mages and Nayoki blast their way in through Savil's door. 

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The warning is enough that it's not a surprise round. He doesn't have his mail on - he was sitting in a warded room eating eggs and toast! - but he has the mace, and he has spells. He upends the breakfast table for cover and casts Prayer.

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Nayoki does not recognize whatever he just cast at all but it's apparently not immediately incapacitating and it doesn't prevent her Othersenses from zeroing in on his mind.  

She slams a set-command to NOT DO ANYTHING at him. It takes her longer because she's trying to aim rather than hit everyone in the area including her own team, but she's very practiced at this and it's not a lot longer. 

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He freezes in place, hand clamped around the sword-and-sun. Does this enchantment let him report to the Heralds by Mindspeech -?

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He can't actively try to get their attention, but Savil is trying to reach him again a moment later, and the set-command doesn't stop him from having surface thoughts where she can see them. 

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Also Vanyel has concluded that the huge (freestanding??? not on a doorway??????!!!) Gate in Companions' Field is a distraction, concluded that he doesn't have time to Gate in but is keyed to the shields and can Farsee into the room just fine, and is now trying to target a levinbolt via the Web at the attackers without hitting Blai. 

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Savil can get an alarmed sitrep.

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Aaaaaaaaaah!!!???

:I'm trying to get to you–: There she can use that stable door for a Gate, a few more seconds and she can be there -

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:Savil there are over a dozen mages in there - if you Gate in they'll just blast your Gate -: 

There, carefully aiming a levinbolt that shouldn't come near Blai...

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Leareth's mages are very well trained and holding a concert shield. They are nonetheless not prepared for Vanyel throwing a strike at close to his maximum power. 

(Neither was the room. The floor is going to be left scorched and smoking.) 

A couple of people get unlucky, are slightly too slow in their attempts to redirect the energy-bleed overwhelming the shield, and go down. 

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Nayoki Mindspeaks the Gate-specialist mage, who was behind the concert shield rather than helping hold it and is fine. :Gate him out now.: She's counting on the fact that a horizontal unscaffolded Gate directly under the priest will be hard to blast without getting him too. 

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...Yeah. Vanyel is considering whether to do it anyway - Blai is tough has magical Healing, he'll be fine as long as it doesn't kill him outright - but he's slightly too slow. 

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Blai falls into an underground room – though he lands on a soft surface, and there's a mage-light so it's not totally dark – and the Gate slams shut over his head. 

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Oh no

 

...It's too late to stop them from getting Blai, but no one else got out through that Gate, and at least now Vanyel can throw everything he has at the strike team without having to worry about hitting Blai. 

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Blai continues not doing anything. Though occasionally he tries to marshal his mental resources to retry his save in case the spell works that way.

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It's a pretty scary fight, and various moments in it go somewhat worse than Nayoki would have expected. They don't manage to get everyone out; a couple of the mages are still down and unable to run for the Gate, and someone tries to go back for them once Nayoki and the more irreplaceable specialist mages are through, but it takes too long and there's no longer shielding on the other end, and someone - presumably Vanyel casting at a distance, going off the power in the spell - manages to blast the Gate, and that's that.

(The two mages who were already through and concert-holding the Gate both go down, but the backlash is divided between them, and probably they're both going to survive.) 

 

Nayoki is not actually injured but she still needs a few minutes before she can get herself to stop shaking. How about she doesn't get herself into any more fights with Vanyel. 

 

 

They left behind an envelope with a letter addressed to Vanyel, in the hallway where it probably didn't get set on fire in the fight, but Nayoki has no idea when the Heralds will get around to opening it. 

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...Nayoki can have a few minutes. Leareth also kind of needs a few minutes to rest before he feels capable of making decisions; he pushed himself very hard with the scrying earlier. Though he does think it paid off; they didn't kill any Valdemarans or set any buildings on fire, and the original plan probably would have. 

 

He mostly expects they'll need Nayoki to revise the set-command before they can learn very much, but while she's taking a few minutes to recover from the fight, he can send a different Thoughtsenser - also a mage and keyed to the shields on the secure room - to see if he can get anything useful by passively reading the priest's mind. 

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Will save. Nope. Guidance? Also nope dumbass. Liberating Command doesn't work on enchantments. Even if it did he'd have to be able to talk. Can he squeeze the sword-and-sun a little harder in case it's a kind that breaks when you're harmed... nope. What if they were wrong about this evil archmage not being undead themed and he is going to be turned into an undead, that would be awful and Iomedae is not here to fix him with a drop of blood. He should have cast Guidance during breakfast. He already does it an objectively ridiculous amount and doing it twice as much would make him twice as likely to have one active when randomly attacked without being anywhere near twice as embarrassing. He has probably broken Savil's dishes and maybe also her table and now he can't even offer to fix them for her tomorrow morning. Maybe the evil archmage doesn't have an embassy because his diplomats would just be expelled whenever he wanted to do a kidnapping. He's forgotten the archmage's name, how awkward. There isn't even a standard title to fall back on for archmages. Not that he's going to talk. Evil archmages love torture, but Blai's been tortured before... albeit not in an information seeking context... maybe he'd crack. Nothing for it but to make that as expensive and time consuming as possible first though. You can't go around making life easier for people because they've kidnapped you. You should make that a very bad way to accomplish anything. There are people who'd say that you mustn't follow that reasoning off a cliff, but Blai thinks you should, if the cliff is artificial, or you're just incentivizing Evil archmages to construct more cliffs. So no talking. Unless the evil archmage just lands a Dominate. He really REALLY wants a Guidance but on the other hand Iomedae should pull his spells if he's Dominated. Iomedae, I have been kidnapped. It will suck a lot for me if you have to pull my spells but like obviously do it anyway if it comes up, you can't let evil archmages use Your magic, I get that. Should Blai be looking for openings to kill himself, even though he is not, specifically, the Black Prince? What exactly about that situation made it okay - why couldn't he have had a catechism course BEFORE getting eaten by a Menadorian Plane Shift Snake Thing -

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Report from the Thoughtsenser, ten minutes later: 

Apparently their prisoner is a priest of the goddess 'Iomedae'? Has Leareth heard of that god? No? Weird. 

He's also a bizarre guy, though you would maybe expect that of anyone sent in on a god's orders to muck around in Haven. He's taking having been kidnapped by a powerful mage remarkably in stride - oh, he's definitely scared, but he - seems to have been expecting it? - he's not panicking and he's already planning how to be maximally unhelpful. 

He...has a pretty baffling way of relating to his goddess? In particular, he seems to have - or believe he has - ongoing access to miraculous abilities directed granted by his goddess, that he expects Her to withdraw if he's compromised? Also there was at one point a brief and particularly confusing line of thought about...not actually knowing all of his goddess' teachings? You would really think someone would make sure they knew what they were getting into before cooperating with a mission like this. 

 

He did not happen to think about what he was up to in Haven. He maybe briefly thought about how he arrived in Haven but thoughts go by fast and the Thoughtsenser did not recognize almost any of the concepts being referenced so he doesn't think he followed. 

There are some other confusing notes that the Thoughtsenser didn't know what to make of – for example, he briefly wondered if Leareth might turn him into an animated dead body? that is not how blood-magic works?! 

 

He's pretty sure they need an expert for this. 

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Leareth feels uneasy about...something, he's not sure what? It feels like the picture he was given doesn't actually hold together. 

 

Is Nayoki ready for an interrogation? 

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She's pulled herself together, yes, and is now a little embarrassed at having needed to do that, it wasn't that bad. 

Set-commands are incredibly annoying to modify and she's under less time pressure now; she's inclined to replace it with compulsions, she can be thorough but still less restrictive. Which does leave open more of a risk of god-possession, if their theory is right, but she'll still be right there and can set-command him again, but it's hard to interrogate someone under a set-command as thorough as the one she has on him right now. 

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...Leareth isn't entirely unworried about the risk, but he's also worried about being confused and missing something important. 

(The man didn't think about what he was up to in Haven. He was half-expecting to be kidnapped, which you could take as evidence that he knew he had been operating against Leareth, but could also just be that the Heralds had warned him...) 

 

Nayoki can go ahead. 

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A woman with very dark skin and a woolly fluff of sharply contrasting white hair lets herself into the room where Blai is. 

:I am going to redo the set-command so that you can answer questions: she says. He's not going to be able to do anything to either agree to this or resist it but she's still reading his mind in case his response is at all informative. 

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She's probably reading his mind. He's been told it's unpleasant but he doesn't know how to make it more unpleasant on purpose so it will just have to be whatever amount of unpleasant it currently is. If he can speak he can Liberating Command but he's not in fact tied up so that's not going to help at all. Which other spells are verbal only - maybe he should have learned to cast still spells - Protection from Evil has somatics - she's probably reading his mind and he shouldn't be thinking about this at all actually! How many Detect Thoughts might someone have prepared if they woke up this morning expecting to do an interrogation - wait, that's not the right way to think about it, is it, because they don't even have slots, they're some weird slotless sorcerer kind of thing here -

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....Nayoki stops what she's doing. (She hasn't done very much, yet, just the initial round of compulsions against escaping or planning to escape or trying to harm anyone, which won't feel like anything to Blai since he doesn't have Detect Magic up.) 

 

:Leareth? I think we are missing some context here.: 

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That is indeed the sense Leareth was having already. 

:Can you find out his understanding of what happened in k'Treva? And - look for signs of meddling?: 

That's the most important point, here. The priest could have genuinely had no idea that the Changecreature attack was a godplot, and helped in good faith, but - if his goddess was responsible for what happened in k'Treva, then Leareth is fairly sure that either he would be aware of that on some level even if he hadn't actively cooperated with it, or there would at least be suspicious traces in his mind from a recent godpossession. 

If it seems like the priest wasn't involved, then – well, then Leareth is a lot more confused, but - that's one of the worlds where this in fact wasn't what it looked like. 

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:I can do that. Maybe even with the set-command in place.: It'll take her fifteen minutes to dig it out and this seems time-sensitive. 

 

She's going to focus her Mindhealing Sight on his mind, first. She's seen the aftermath in someone's mind of being the conduit for a large-scale miracle, and also the traces of smaller interventions. Does she see anything like that here? 

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This man is a bagel. Orbiting, gently, some central pillar of principle; dense with rapid and irrelevant thought unless actually in a situation where what-ifs and alarm actually compose most of what's useful to think about. A god has touched him, but - so weirdly? What the fuck even is that? It doesn't seem to be making him worse at anything, even a little, the way a lot of godtouched people wind up lowkey psychotic.

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She would think this man's mind was really cool if not for the godtouched part! What the fuck!

It may not be obviously messing with him - it's very contained, very - structured - where it sits in relation to the rest of his mind is almost more like Gifts than anything god-related she's seen before? Which...kind of makes sense, what with how the other Thoughtsenser reported he was thinking about the miraculous powers granted by his goddess...but also, what?? She didn't think gods could do that!

She at least feels a lot more confident that he's been - in his right mind, in control of himself and his senses - for the duration of whatever happened yesterday. She would have felt kind of bad about interrogating someone who legitimately had no idea what their god had done. 

...maybe done. She knows that what happened in k'Treva is the shakiest part of the picture they've put together so far, and Leareth wasn't sure. 

 

:What happened in k'Treva Vale?: she sends. :What did you see and do there? Did your goddess give you orders to act there?: 

He still can't speak; she's nervous about letting him if he can call on specific miracles from his goddess by speaking the right words (what????), and also she doesn't want to waste fifteen minutes digging out the set-command first, but she can read the answer in his thoughts and she thinks that's evident to him already. If he refuses to think about it, then she can stick a compulsion on him to obey instructions including in thoughts, but that an annoying compulsion to cast and maybe just asking will work? 

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It looked like a Wish crater but actually fuck you he's being unhelpful you evil archmage's minion who kidnaps people instead of having an embassy like a normal person. How many moves of a chess game can he hold in his head. Let's have white advance this pawn and black that one and then get this bishop out and that knight and - he's mentally misplaced a pawn, starting over -

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The thing is, she can't even be mad at him about it, that's such a valid way to react to being kidnapped! It would probably be more likely to get him tortured, if he had gotten kidnapped by someone actually evil instead of Leareth, but if Nayoki imagines herself being kidnapped by someone evil who was working against Leareth accomplishing any of his goals - which is probably how this priest feels about the situation, except substitute "his goddess" for Leareth - she would hope she could pull off being that stubbornly unhelpful. 

 

...She got a brief flicker before he remembered to be unhelpful, and it's maybe a little informative that the brief flicker was - aftermath of a violent explosion, looked like a kind of disaster he's familiar with - and not anything about orders from his goddess. 

It's absolutely possible that he's good enough at controlling his thoughts to hide anything actually revealing, though. So she's doing this the hard way. She will lay a compulsion on him to follow her instructions and think through her questions in detail – it takes like five minutes, it's a really annoying compulsion to cast if she wants to get it right – and then repeat her questions about what he saw and did, whether he received orders from his goddess at the time, and what he understands his goddess' involvement to be in the k'Treva situation. 

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Well, what did he see. He saw Savil. She looks like this. He can't remember what she was wearing besides that it was white, and he has to think about this in detail, and if nobody stops him he is going to spend the next five minutes solid trying to reconstruct the shape of her collar and the length of her sleeves.

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Sooooooooooooo stubbornly unhelpful! Nayoki is actually really impressed. Too bad this poor man works for one of the gods instead of Leareth. 

She'll be a little patient, mostly because she's curious how long he can drag it out, but not for five minutes. 

They would have gone to the permanent Gate-terminus (she assumes) and Gated to k'Treva. What did he see then? 

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It looked like the edge of a Wish crater but he's never seen one and could be completely wrong about what Wish craters look like. So probably the archmage did it, who else is going to be slinging Wishes. Unless there was an ancient scroll, or a pit fiend, or a djinni, or there's another spell that does that at eighth circle, or it was weird slotless sorcerer bullshit, or any combination of those things, such as a djinni with a scroll, or a pit fiend who is a weird slotless sorcerer, that would be awful, wow -

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Nayoki's thoughts stumble to a halt as she notices two things. 

 

 

One: none of that makes sense??? What is a 'Wish' spell, what in the world is a pit fiend, what does it mean for something to be eight circles worth of magic, what does "slotless" mean, what kind of artifact is a "scroll"... 

Two: it doesn't even seem to be entering this man's mind that they're asking whether and how his goddess did it. 

 

She relates this to Leareth. :I think we are missing really quite a lot of context.: 

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They absolutely seem to be missing a lot of context! This is far beyond the point of just "not what it looked like" – whatever the story here is, Leareth is increasingly sure that it's going to be something that hadn't even occurred to him as a hypothesis before. 

:...Tell him why you are asking about this. He may still try not to cooperate - understandably - but if he was not in fact involved, he may genuinely not realize why we kidnapped him.: 

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Nayoki sighs. At this point she really doubts she's going to get anything helpful from this man without dragging it out of him one compulsion at a time. 

 

:Leareth did not destroy k'Treva, and would not even have had the capability to do so, which I think Vanyel would realize if he were thinking clearly about it. We have no idea what happened, except that it is probably a godplot with the aim of pushing both us and Valdemar to go to war. You appeared in Haven with very suspicious timing and we are trying to determine if your goddess was involved in arranging this.:

And she's just going to ask the question directly, he's still compulsioned to think through the answer. :Was your goddess responsible for destroying k'Treva Vale, either with your help or without?: 

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Oh no what if there are Iomedaeans on this planet somewhere and he messed up their operation that would be mortifying.

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On...this...planet...? 

 

 

Really that seems like the most important part here!!!!!!! 

:Where are you from: 

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His childhood house looked like this. It had green shutters and the paint was flaking away the last time he saw the place. He will now think real hard about the exact places on the shutters that were missing paint.

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Well that was predictable, wasn't it, she definitely had that coming. 

 

It would...make sense of a lot, though. The confusing notes from the first Thoughtsenser's report. The bizarre theories about what could have caused k'Treva to explode. The fact that his goddess gives him something-like-Gifts, which Nayoki wouldn't have said was possible - but maybe it's only impossible here

Of course, it also raises a lot more questions, but it's not like this situation made an incredible amount of sense before, either.

She relays this to Leareth. 

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...It makes sense, Leareth thinks. It's not impossible in theory, for there to be other worlds, or for magic to travel between them. At this point the "other world" hypothesis feels like the cleaner one, making sense of a set of facts that would otherwise be incredibly confusing. 

 

The man seems unwilling to say anything definitive about whether his goddess was involved in destroying k'Treva. Probably mostly because he's stubbornly being unhelpful, and secondly because he did, in fact, just get kidnapped by someone who the Heralds described to him as an evil archmage and that description is not actually particularly unfair. Incomplete, Leareth thinks, but he can't say it's wrong. The priest could be thinking it would be very reasonable of his goddess to do whatever it took to stop Leareth. 

 

But Leareth is pretty sure they can read between the lines: the priest wasn't himself involved and has no particular reason to think his goddess was involved.

And if his goddess is from another planet, then - they also have a lot less reason to assume that the simplest explanation is a single godplot. 

Hold the pieces together. The Changecreature, k'Treva...those make sense as a godplot. The Star-Eyed could have done both. If there hadn't been a foreign priest with miraculous powers in Haven, then - well, probably the Changecreature incident would have killed more people, maybe including the Queen. People who Vanyel personally cared about; he would have been grieving. They would have tried to contact k'Treva for aid at some point anyway, and learned it had been destroyed. 

It's not clear that the presence or absence of a foreign priest with miraculous powers mattered at all, to the outcome being escalation and war. 

 

The gods of Velgarth...maybe wouldn't have seen it coming in Foresight at all. Or maybe They did, and worked the foreign priest into an existing plan. Either way, Leareth is growingly suspicious that there was some nudging involved in what exactly he learned from his spies. If he hadn't learned what happened to k'Treva, he would have been vastly less likely to decide he had grounds to kidnap the priest – and the Heralds managed to be sloppy enough about operational security to leak that, but no hints of the priest's origins? 

He knew that the entire point of all this was almost certainly to push the Heralds to escalate, and he still went ahead and made it worse. 

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(There's no point in being angry with himself for something he couldn't possibly known at the time – he's still not sure of his decision, it's something he would want to review after the fact with all the information, but it would have been correct, he thinks, to act quickly in the world where it turned out the priest had willingly helped destroy k'Treva. The question is mostly whether he should have been unsure enough of his top theory to wait a day or a week to act, and of course now he wishes he had done that instead, but - would a decision procedure that always waited an extra week lead to better results on average...) 

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And, of course, the new theory is still half guesswork. And it's going to be a lot of work to get more clarity, because the priest is (not even unreasonably, from his perspective) being as uncooperative as possible.

Nayoki could probably wring more answers out of him eventually, but...that's a hostile way to be operating, and he already has a lot less reason to think that it's justified. Would he have authorized the strike team and given the order to kidnap the man from Haven with the information he has right now? Almost certainly not; he would have tried to talk to Vanyel first, instead of giving Vanyel even more reason to believe that he was wrong to even consider trusting Leareth. 

 

No undoing it now, but he can at least stop making it worse

:Nayoki. Whatever his other involvement, it seems he was not willingly involved with destroying k'Treva, and - we have less reason than before to think his goddess was involved either. I - need to think about what we know, and what we can do with it from here, but it is probably counterproductive to force him to answer more questions.: 

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Well then. That's awkward. Probably not as awkward as accidentally kidnapping Savil's boyfriend would have been, though. 

She undoes the compulsions, which - unlike with set-commands - is much faster than putting them on was. 

:It seems like Leareth is convinced you did not participate in destroying k'Treva to provoke a war after all, which is the reason he kidnapped you, and so he has decided we should not keep asking you questions you do not want to answer.: 

To Leareth, :- I think I can do a block that will only prevent him from drawing on his weird god-Gifts. He is not otherwise Gifted. ...He would probably try to fight us with his weapon but I can leave the room first and do it through the door, I am keyed to the shields.: 

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It feels like a terrifying risk, what if it still lets the priest's god possess him or something, but - Leareth thinks that's mostly a feeling. 

:You can do that from outside the room, sure.: 

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Then Nayoki will leave the room, explain in terse Mindspeech - and not especially apologetically - what she's going to do, and start mucking around in Blai's head again. She's still totally reading his mind. 

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Why isn't he making any of his saves. Did they curse him and he didn't remember it. He may have forgotten Not Geb's name but not his gender or there being only one of him so this isn't even the archmage and you'd think Blai would eventually make one of the saves. The Valdemarans may want to know how powerful the guy's lieutenant is if he can ever tell them but if they're smart he'll be in quarantine and asked to expend all his spells and kept unconscious* at dawn even if for some reason the evil archmage releases him back to Valdemar. And if he can't expend his spells who knows what would be a reasonable security precaution! Can Iomedae recoup the intervention budget if he's enchanted not to use the spells. Probably not, if that were a thing people would be using Geases about it sometimes probably. What a waste of a clerichood he is. War is among the most tragic of human endeavors and also he SUCKS AT IT.

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Wow that was actually enormously more informative than most of the interrogation, even if it also leaves Nayoki with so many more questions, none of which she can ASK because Leareth said not to interrogate the guy and also he would probably go back to being maximally unhelpful. 

 

She's, uh, moderately more sure of the "other world" hypothesis now. What a baffling mix of thought-references to incredibly powerful or outright impossible magic and, like, apparently not having a better way of keeping someone unconscious than beating them with clubs??? 

She's vaguely curious about "making saves" – now that she's doing something more complicated, she can notice that the man is somewhat weirdly hard to do hostile Mindhealing to. Not to the extent that it's a problem, Nayoki can boost with mage-energy, but it's eventually going to give her a headache. 

 

Eventually she's done with the new blocks and sufficiently sure that he really definitely won't be able to do anything even close to accessing the god-touched parts of his mind. She moves to picking out the set-command.

Blai will find that he's able to get up and move, if he wants. He's still alone in a room with a locked door. 

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Well, the thing he keeps reflexively trying to do is cast Guidance and his arm doesn't move when he tries it so he doesn't notice right away that he can move in any other ways. He goes back to trying to play chess against himself in his head.

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That's actually kind of impressive and interesting to watch for a bit, but probably not...productive...and Nayoki should go report properly. 

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Leareth thinks they have enough information to at the very least put significant weight on the priest coming from another world. 

 

...Which changes almost everything, actually, even if he would have preferred to have learned it in almost any other circumstances. Another world means different magic, different rules – different gods, maybe better ones, though he would want really quite a lot of proof before believing that. 

If he had learned this a few weeks ago, it would have been grounds to, at the very least, communicate to Vanyel that he was committing to a longer period of no operations against Valdemar while he investigated. Delaying for a year now is significantly more costly than it was three years ago, but - only as long as he assumes he still needs to maintain readiness for the main plan. It wouldn't take that much confirmation to conclude that, however much he's already invested in this route, it's worth dropping it and spending fifty years checking for a better way. 

 

It feels too late for that now. 

Leareth...should probably be suspicious of that feeling. It seems like a coalition of gods have decided to move now, and will probably escalate further if this isn't enough to get both Leareth and Valdemar to jump the way They want, but - They do still have to work through mortals, mostly. And what exactly is Valdemar going to do if Leareth chooses to keep his forces on the other side of the Ice Wall Mountains. 

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He takes a candlemark to think about it. It seems like the at most points lately, he's felt after the fact that he should have spent more rather than less time thinking before acting. 

 

...He does send Nayoki back for more passive mindreading, once she's finished her report. He's not expecting or counting on getting any more information via that route, but - does Nayoki happen to pick up on anything other than mental chess during that time? 

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Blai tries to scratch an itch on his head and discovers he can move. He's tried nicking the back of his hand with his holy symbol in case that breaks the enchantment, and he didn't really expect it to work and also it didn't. He keeps trying to cast Guidance and it's driving him NUTS that he can't. He's also tried the other orisons he has for the day (Create Water, Detect Magic, Stabilize but there's no one to stabilize) and they don't work. He is mostly focusing on mental chess except when he's having unpleasant flashbacks to being on the second day of a dry fast with no sleep or hiding in his quarters in a fortress expecting his own men to tear him apart.

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By the end of this Nayoki is starting to feel really bad about not letting him cast that one spell he seems to really really really rely on! She has several new questions and concerns about his world or maybe just this particular man's life. 

 

:Leareth are we sending him back to Valdemar or not: she sends as soon as Leareth Mindtouches her and is presumably done thinking. :If we are going to I think it would be better not to wait a day to consider it further.: 

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:There are multiple reasons it would be better not to wait a day for no reason.: 

Valdemar might have officially declared war by then, if they haven't already; his information loop for decisionmaking in Haven is on a delay, because the Heralds have actually good security for the Council meeting today. 

:- I want to speak with him. I - am not sure if he would be willing to cooperate with anything we ask for, and I think we should send him back anyway, but it would be useful if he had some way to confirm that we were not, in fact, responsible for k'Treva, and bring that back to the Heralds.: 

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The Heralds probably won't believe him either way. 

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Vanyel might. 

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....Maybe. Nayoki often suspects that Leareth is giving Vanyel too much credit because of - she would say "personal fondness" except it's Leareth and she's not sure what it is. History. 

:You should ask him if he will attack you with his mace if you go in to talk to him: she suggests. :I would find it very understandable if he did, but - I think he is not going to promise not to and then do it anyway.: She's spent a lot of time staring at his mind by this point and she's fairly sure of that. 

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Leareth heads over to the Work Room. Stops at the door, takes a breath. 

:I am: he resists the urge to just introduce himself as 'the evil archmage' since that's what the man is thinking of him by anyway, :Leareth, the one who had you kidnapped. We intend to return you to Valdemar, since you were not responsible for k'Treva and seem disinclined to push for a war.: Given how he has thoughts like war being the most tragic of human endeavors.

:I realize we have no grounds to ask you for favors, but - I believe it would reduce the chances of a war that neither side currently wants if you are willing to bring certain information back to Vanyel. Particularly if any of your god-magic could be used to confirm that I am telling the truth about having no part in the attack on Haven or k'Treva Vale.: 

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Nayoki is still reading his mind and very curious how determinedly unhelpful he's going to be about this! 

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Oh more complications for the law puzzle. Guid- fuck. Okay. No Guidance on the law puzzle.

So, on the one hand, kidnapping Blai and burying him in enchantments should be a very bad way to do anything. It should just make your life and everything you were trying to accomplish in it worse if you kidnap Blai if Blai can finagle that at all including at disproportionately enormous costs to himself. He would pretty straightforwardly die just to make it be a bad and useless idea to have kidnapped him and would also have done this when he would have gone straight to Hell.

On the other hand, if it would make things go better for Valdemar, who have not kidnapped Blai at all, and let them avoid having a war, he would like to help them out. They might really like a report from Blai about the evil archmage! They should probably not listen to one damn word Blai says because he's been buried in enchantments by an evil archmage('s lieutenant), but it's at least within the realm of possibility that they could, with local magic and their knowledge of it, get a report from him that they would and should trust. It's an almost unique property of communication-from-the-evil-archmage-to-Valdemar, that it could be a thing the evil archmage wanted to accomplish by kidnapping Blai and also worth doing anyway. The fact that the evil archmage should have a fucking embassy like a normal person if he wanted to be able to communicate with Valdemar doesn't obviously change that.

On the mage hand the evil archmage can just say whatever nonsense he wants, they only have Blai's read on Vanyel's impression to go on about him being maybe lawful evil. Blai did not prepare Detect Law or Zone of Truth because those are not spells you prepare when you're anticipating hostile archmage action. Also an archmage could shrug off or deliver a mistaken impression to Blai's spell like it was nothing so it would be kind of farcical to try. (Why didn't they specify that the guy was an enchanter. Blai wouldn't have gone for the Protection from Energy if he'd known he was an enchanter.) He cannot remotely guarantee that this whole shenanigan isn't, say, intended to look like a mutually beneficial communication attempt and actually, via slotless sorcerer bullshit, render Blai into some kind of mind-read-able Sepia Snake Sigil or some utter nonsense like that.

Iomedae would come up with the right thing to say here but Iomedae was Splendid and already half-divine in her mortality and IMMUNE TO ENCHANTMENTS. None of which applies to Blai. So he doesn't have a right thing to say, so he's going to resolve the law puzzle in favor of the first consideration. You get nothing you want this way, fuck you. He has misplaced a rook and starts over again this time with Berolina pawns.

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There is some kind of deep irony every time Leareth's enemies end up thinking he's capable of even more impossible things than he actually is. Vanyel does it, though he is at least capable of noticing that if Leareth has every capability they suspect him of having then it's surprising he hasn't already won; the other Heralds definitely do it. Leareth...probably could in principle have Nayoki send the man back with convincing false beliefs, but not with only a few candlemarks to work on it and not undetectably to mage-sight or Mindhealing Sight. Of course, the Heralds are going to assume the worst anyway, and - it might not be unreasonable of them, given what they know. He definitely cannot turn him into a...whatever a Sepia Snake Sigil is???...but it's not like the priest has any way of knowing that. 

 

...The priest's world does have truth magic. And the ability to directly detect - what is that concept, even - Leareth is desperately intrigued and has also definitely wedged himself into a position where there's no possible way to productively ask. He has fragments, and - can put it together into something that feels coherent, something like -a person's tendency to commit to following a particular decision procedure that in expectation has the results they want? 

The priest has a very optimistic sense of how well embassies work as a method of communication even between normal countries maybe that makes perfect sense, though, if it were standard to be able to check both if someone was telling the truth in a specific case and if they were - in general the sort of person who would act as they said they would - then international diplomacy might go a lot better in general. (A major downside for Leareth of having an embassy in Valdemar is that it opens up more surface area for gods to interfere with his plans, so he would have been reluctant anyway, but still.) 

 

He also abruptly has huge numbers of questions about the goddess who...used...to be mortal...? (And also, or at least he's guessing from the priest's thoughts, would have, if put in this situation, wanted to find a way to de-escalate. It feels like that...should be significant, it feels like he should have enough fragments here to put together more than he realizes so far...) 

He would like to file a complaint with the universe that the priest of a formerly-mortal god from another world with different magic happened to coincidentally arrive at the most suspicious possible time that is not how anything works. He made a decision based on the information he had at the time. It was probably the wrong decision. This is still the position he's starting from now. 

 

It does not seem productive to try to have a conversation with the priest now. 

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What options does he have. 

 

...Most of the remaining chances of this not being a disaster rest on Vanyel. Who is probably being nudged as hard as possible toward concluding that Leareth was lying about his motives all along, but - if Leareth's interpretation is right then this priest is just as out-of-context for the Velgarth's gods as for him. And might be harder for Them to push in a specific direction. 

If he sends the priest back, even that by itself is a message. The Heralds will obviously suspect a plot, but - he thinks Vanyel will be confused, and try to resolve that confusion. Even if the gods are blocking the dream - which, on reflection, seems more likely than Vanyel doing it - he can keep sending messages. Vanyel has enough context on what Leareth wants realize why another world is gamechanging for him.

 

 

Leareth does not like the feeling of making a move that puts most of how this goes next out of his control. But that doesn't mean it's not still worth trying. 

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:Fair enough. I expect we will return you to Valdemar within a candlemark, once some logistics are arranged.: He would rather not accidentally spook Vanyel into, say, casting at a distance at something he assumes is an attack and killing the priest in the process. 

 

To Nayoki, :- do you think you could figure out how to unblock specifically the one spell he keeps trying to cast in order to think better?: 

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She's spent long enough watching him instinctively try to reach for it over and over that she's pretty sure she can do that, yeah. 

(It might be fine to give him all of his magic back? There's no indication that his spells include a Gate or anything that lets him leave a locked room, and also, well, if he manages to escape back to Valdemar then maybe that just saves Leareth a step. ...But it's not impossible he could do something that makes the situation worse somehow, and Nayoki thinks he would probably just not engage with the question if they asked whether he would agree not to attacking anyone if they gave him all his magic back.) 

He can get Guidance back, though. 

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He doesn't notice right away but then he tries to cast it, completes the motion, immediately spends it on trying to "make a save", casts another one, tries creating water, and can't do that. Is this the part where they make him cast Guidance on all their guys, the only a thing worse than being enchanted not to cast Guidance would be if Iomedae won't let him keep it at all because it's being used against Her purposes...

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...Honestly Nayoki is pretty intrigued by the spell but, no, they are not going to make him cast it on Leareth's people. They are going to leave him alone and not ask him for anything while Leareth goes and figures out where they can safely put him back without spooking Vanyel into setting any buildings on fire. 

:We can bring you water if you want: she offers, not that she's really expecting him to take her up on that. :We are not going to force you to use magic for us before putting you back.: He of course shouldn't be expected to believe anything she says just because she said it, but they aren't, and hopefully it'll take less than a candlemark to figure out logistics. 

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He can't take water from his captors, that would be legitimizing the situation far too much.

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...Sure, she's not making him. 

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Report on Haven from the people he has watching things evolve: the Heralds are absolutely on high alert. 

There are, uh, also suddenly around a dozen new non-Valdemaran mages around? The Gate to bring them in wasn't directly observed, it was probably in a Work Room, but going off the sheer quantity of weather disturbance in Haven right now, there were probably multiple long-range Gates this morning. At a wild guess the new mages are mostly Rethwellani and probably Valdemar is urgently bringing in their allies. 

Leareth is not delighted about raising a Gate anywhere near Haven with that many mages nearby and on a hair-trigger. Even if he does it himself - he can probably drop the priest through a horizontal Gate in half a second and have it down again - there's too high a chance that Vanyel or Savil is waiting to blast the first hint of a Gate-signature. (He would survive it even if he's casting a freestanding Gate, he has better shields than the Heralds know are possible, but now is a pretty bad time to be unconscious with backlash.) If he has one of his other mages do it, their chances are even worse, and of course the priest himself might end up caught in the blast radius. 

He has other underground shielded Gate-locations, but none of them are that close to Haven. Probably that's what he should do - send the priest, send an un-Gifted messenger with orders to surrender immediately - but then he has to separately send a message to the Heralds telling them where to pick the priest up, and the Heralds will suspect a trap and might just ignore it. He could send a Mindspeaker with the priest, but strong Mindspeech can be used offensively, so it's plausibly more likely to look like a trap, and also it wouldn't be obvious to them who to contact, they might have to spend a long time searching for the nearest Gifted Herald... 

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Update: Gate-signature in - uh, northern Valdemar, they're having to consult a map to figure out what the town is called - in a town they think is called Havenbeck? 

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What now can they get Farsight coverage immediately please. 

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Herald-Mage Vanyel and his Companion, accompanied by the King's personal Bard, appear to have Gated into Havenbeck directly. They look like they're equipped for a journey. They seem to be headed further north. 

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Which could mean several different things. It's compatible with both "Vanyel is heading north to open communications with Leareth" (which is an arrangement they had discussed), and also "Vanyel is headed north to try to assassinate Leareth" (which is a stupid plan but Vanyel can empirically be wedged into stupid plans and also they work more often than they have any right to) or "Vanyel is making an attempt to rescue the priest" (unclear what his exact plan would be, he doesn't know where Leareth is keeping the man, but Leareth isn't the only one who's been holding back his full capabilities; maybe Vanyel thinks he has a way of locating the priest.) 

 

...It also feels like luck going Leareth's way for once, because Havenbeck is actually quite close to one of his records caches. He could drop the priest off within a mile of Vanyel, in the process sending up enough of a Web-alarm to attract his attention but not enough to give him a chance to blast the Gate while it's still up. 

Luck appearing to go Leareth's way automatically makes him suspicious, of course. 

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He could Gate the priest to Haven anyway - it's safer without Vanyel there - but that leaves open way too much opportunity for Vanyel to fail to find out that he put the man back. ...He could Gate the priest somewhere else and separately send a messenger to meet Vanyel? That - seems probably excessively complicated - he wishes he knew for sure one way or another if Vanyel received the first letter he sent. He did send a redundant copy with one of the nalaar and it should have arrived well before Vanyel left - and Valdemar captured some of his people, probably alive, and could have questioned them and gotten a matching story - but he does not have actual confirmation of any of that happening, and of course Vanyel wouldn't have taken it at face value. 

 

But the worlds where this goes well are almost entirely counting on Vanyel having as much information as possible. 

...He doesn't need that long to make a decision. 

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:I am going to undo the blocks on your god-magic and then we are going to Gate you back to a location in Valdemar along with a messenger carrying a message for Vanyel: Nayoki tells the priest. From safely outside the room. :If you use your god-magic to attack the mage who is going to Gate you, that would be inconvenient and Leareth will probably decide we need to keep you unconscious and then try again. ...If you use your god-magic to try to escape on your own without hurting anyone then I think this also makes it more difficult to return you to Valdemar promptly, but Leareth thinks it would be unreasonable to expect you not to given the circumstances, and he does not intend to make returning you to Valdemar conditional on you being cooperative about the process.: 

She will start undoing blocks. With the areas she thinks are minor spells first, like the creating-water one (which is really not a minor spell from a Velgarth perspective but he clearly thinks of it that way.) 

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He thinks it's pretty patently impossible for him to make a meaningful dent in an archmage('s forces) and it would be kind of petty to punish the only acceptable thing there is to do with Blai from this point in the decision process (returning him to Valdemar), which they might, conceivably, be actually planning to do. If she is not totally bullshitting him it would be useful to know what conduct the messenger is expected to display.

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Wow, he's at all capable of being reasonable that's probably unfair. Leareth seems to feel like the man's commitment to being as unhelpful as possible so that kidnapping him is always a bad strategy was reasonable of him, and Nayoki isn't sure she thinks it was a good idea but it's abstractly admirable. 

:The messenger was originally briefed to travel overland to Haven from a Gate-location, surrender to the Heralds, and cooperate with being questioned in whatever way the Heralds chose; she has context on Leareth's long term plan, but not military tactics. She is also un-Gifted and unarmed. ...We are in fact going to send you to a location in northern Valdemar because Vanyel just Gated there, either to try to talk to Leareth or try to kill him or possibly he has no decided which one yet. We will be dropping you off in a supply cache, which is shielded enough that Vanyel will not be able to blast the Gate and kill you if he is startled, but the messenger has orders to immediately go to the surface and be mindreadable so that Vanyel can find you more easily.: 

She can say all of this while removing blocks, it doesn't even slow her down. 

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It's going to be so awkward if Vanyel can't lawfully accept a surrender but it doesn't matter if Blai likes it and he doesn't have a better idea.

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It's possible Vanyel is sufficiently pissed off to kill a messenger, but it seems unlikely to Nayoki; he's absolutely going to suspect a trap but it would be out of character for him to kill someone over it. She thinks the worst he would do is refuse to talk to them and ride away, and he's probably less likely to do that if they're also returning the priest at the same time. The mission is definitely a dangerous one for the messenger in question, but Leareth thought the greater risk was godshenanigans in Haven, not the Heralds having a policy against accepting surrenders (???) And that should actually be a lower risk in the north, which at least isn't within a mile of a Heartstone.

She doesn't bother trying to explain that, just double-checks that she's gotten all of the mind control off. 

:Some people are coming into the room in a moment: she warns the priest. :The messenger and also a mage who will be doing the Gate but staying behind.: Hopefully he'll be willing to at least get up and walk through a Gate, but it wouldn't be the end of the world if they have to physically carry him through. 

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He'll walk! He isn't so totally convinced of the across-the-board depravity of this evil archmage that he doesn't think it might be remotely possible that he's doing the best he can from here! Sometimes people are evil and/or lawless for a long time and then they stop even if this is objectively bizarre timing!

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He's one to talk about objectively bizarre timing it's not the poor man's fault that he happened to arrive in Haven and walk headfirst into an incredibly escalatory godplot that included killing everyone in k'Treva Vale. It's plausibly not even his goddess' fault! 

 

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This is fucking terrifying but Leareth's messenger does feel a little better about only meeting Vanyel, who Leareth clearly likes even if this is pretty baffling of him, and doing it far away from Haven.

She is now stuck hanging out with a priest who has miraculous powers from his god, which wasn't part of the original plan she was getting herself emotionally ready for, but - apparently Leareth confirmed that he's not actually a priest of any of the gods they know are terrible, he's from ANOTHER WORLD which is OBJECTIVELY REALLY WEIRD and doesn't really make this less stressful but maybe his god is fine? 

Leareth wouldn't be asking her to do this if he didn't think it was worth it. 

She goes through the Gate as well and waits for it to go down behind her. She can't disarm the wards herself, but she's wearing an artifact that Leareth said would identify their party as friendly and shut down the countermeasures against intruders, and she has written instructions for Vanyel to follow to take the wards down from the outside if he wants to go in and poke around in Leareth's stuff. 

She also has instructions to find the door so she can go out and be mindreadable, which is good because it's really not immediately obvious. Awkwardly, she doesn't actually have a way to talk to the priest from another world until Vanyel gets here, since she doesn't have Mindspeech. 

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And he has no way to explain Comprehend Languages to her. Alas. He's just gonna tap himself with Guidance fucking constantly while they depart the records cache. Can he Mindspeak Vanyel yet?

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Blai doesn't actually have Mindspeech and they're still almost a mile away, so even once they're out of the shields and standing in the snow, Vanyel will need to be actively looking for him.

It doesn't take Vanyel that long to narrow down where he thinks the confusing and blurry Web-alarm must have originated, and then look for minds in the area. 

 

- that doesn't make any sense - this has to be a trap - 

 

...If Leareth was telling the truth, he reminds himself, then he thought Blai had deliberately blown up k'Treva to start a war. Which is obviously absurd once you've spent more than three seconds reading Blai's mind, but Leareth wouldn't have until after he already decided to kidnap him... 

Also there's another person there who is completely unshielded, unlike Blai with his weird not-shields, and is really scared but thinking very loudly that she SURRENDERS and HAS A MESSAGE FOR VANYEL. FROM LEARETH IN CASE THAT WASN'T OBVIOUS. 

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Oh, Blai's actually trying to fail his save at Vanyel right now if that helps.

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It doesn't help Vanyel find him in the first place but it does mean his mind is just as easily readable as the ??messenger??'s mind and he doesn't have to push harder to get past the weird not-shields. 

 

...Vanyel is not going to give any indication that he's noticed them, yet, because most of his mind is still screaming that this is a trap, but he will totally try to read Blai's mind as well as the messenger's. 

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Sitrep: he was kidnapped, and taken alive, obviously. He was very very enchanted and Vanyel should take all the precautions appropriate to someone having been very very enchanted but Blai doesn't know enough about what, on this planet, those might be. He does not currently feel enchanted, if that's diagnostic, which, again, it might not be. He resisted interrogation insofar as he could which wasn't a very impressive amount; the messenger is planning to surrender with her communiqué and it's going to be VERY awkward if she really means that and Vanyel can't accept her surrender. His Endure Elements will wear off at the same time he cast yesterday's and he's not currently sure exactly when that is, and he doesn't have his coat, but if they have any unexpected trouble meeting up, he knows how to dig a snow trench or a quinzee, and he expects this to allow him and the messenger if she's cooperative survive till dawn; cure spells work on frostbite if you catch it before anything falls off.

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The messenger has no idea how long to expect it to take for Vanyel to notice them but is deliberately trying to keep cycling through the basics of the message in her thoughts, which are that Leareth did not blow up k'Treva (seriously, how would he even do that????) and also didn't send the Changecreature, though admittedly that one he could have done, but he wouldn't have sent her falsely claiming he didn't do it if he had done it and also it wouldn't have made any sense.

The other important part of the message is that Leareth had no idea that the priest was from ANOTHER WORLD, which for one seem much less likely that he was being steered as part of the godplot that included k'Treva and the Changecreature attack, and also the fact that ANOTHER WORLD EXISTS is REALLY IMPORTANT and Leareth didn't explicitly say he was going to call off the whole invasion plan solely on the information he already has but that's definitely the direction she expects him to go, even though it will be way harder to get this plan past the gods of Velgarth a second time if he spends fifty years investigating the other world and it turns out the gods there are also terrible and it doesn't have any better solutions for a power source.

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It could absolutely still be a trap; Leareth could have told the messenger whatever he wanted and then separately put one of those sneaky compulsions that doesn't do anything until a certain trigger happens and then makes her try to stab Vanyel. Like that time with the family priest. Though that only worked because Vanyel was not at all expecting it, had never thought to read his family priest's mind or examine him close-up with mage-sight for compulsions, and was unshielded and already half-dead at the time, and it might have mattered for the compulsion working that the family priest had always inexplicably hated him anyway. 

Blai could be under a compulsion without being aware of it too, obviously, and...probably still can't take Vanyel in a fight, most people can't, but Vanyel should probably be paranoid and expect the worst. He can check if he gets close enough, and undo any compulsions he does find, but "close enough" is closer than within thirty or forty feet and some of Blai's spells have that range. 

Also he can't directly check for Mindhealing and definitely can't undo it. 

 

It...would in some sense be smart to leave them there, go back to Haven, and get backup. 

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Vanyel doesn't really want to do that. 

 

 

- why not - 

 

 

Because right now, it feels like he's the only person - with the exception of maybe Jisa - who is still putting any probability at all on Leareth telling the truth. He doesn't know how the Senior Circle would react to this, but he just more or less stormed out of the most intensely frustrating meeting of his entire life.

Leareth could be trying to de-escalate. Which would be a lot more believable if he hadn't kidnapped Blai in the first place, of course, but - it's not impossible. Maybe, despite being two thousand years old, Leareth is also capable of panicking and making a bad call. 

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It feels like he's probably making a mistake. Acting unilaterally without telling any of the other Heralds because they would try to stop him has, he thinks, generally been a mistake. 

 

But going to war also feels like a mistake. Even with all their allies, he's not sure Valdemar can win it. 

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...He should probably briefly explain to Stef what's going on before he tells him to stay put and gets himself closer. 

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Stef is not delighted about this plan but he did agree to listen to Vanyel when they decided he would come north as well. He will stay put, behind a weather-barrier Vanyel leaves up for him. Grumpily. 

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Can he and Yfandes get to within a hundred yards or so of the spot where he can sense Blai's mind without being noticed? 

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The messenger definitely doesn't notice! Companions can move very quietly and there are lots of ambient noises in a snowy forest anyway. She's found herself a fallen tree to sit on and is blowing on her hands. 

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Blai's getting underway on a quinzee since they haven't heard anything and the messenger isn't moving any more. He still has Endure Elements for some unknown period of time so he can comfortably haul snow around barehanded, though he has his sleeves rolled up so they won't get wet.

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She's not worried about freezing, they can always go back inside the records cache if it gets to nightfall and no one's made contact. 

It turns out to be impossible to maintain the same level of terrified for twenty minutes of nothing happening. She ends up watching him work curiously, in between remembering to LOUDLY THINK ABOUT HER MESSAGE. 

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Vanyel gets close enough that he can target them precisely.

(He could have cast at a distance from a mile off, they're still in the Web, but he would feel bad about leaving them incapacitated in the snow while he made his way over, and also his backup plan if Blai resists is to try to knock him out with Mindspeech, and he's not sure he can do that from a distance. ...He's not 100% sure he can do it at all, actually, Blai is weirdly tough, but there's plenty of node-energy nearby to boost his Gift with.) 

 

:Sorry: he sends a fraction of a second in advance, so that Blai will know it's him and not Leareth deciding to re-kidnap him or some unrelated bandits or something.

And then he throws a paralysis-spell at him. A really thorough one, so he won't be able to move his hands, which Vanyel thinks he needs for most of his magic. Blai does have magic to resist the paralysis-spell catching him in the first place, Vanyel is pretty sure, so it's going to be informative whether he does fight it. 

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A "sorry" does not successfully warn him to try to fail his save - people resist spells by default if they don't know they're happening and often still don't know they happened afterwards - and he even instinctively blows his current Guidance on it, but it does get him to chill out about it pretty quick once it lands anyway, and he doesn't try his Liberating Command either even though that one doesn't have required gestures.

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The messenger is already pretty keyed up and nearly jumps out of her skin when the priest unexpectedly falls over. Aaaaaaahhhwhaaat okay it's okay it's probably Vanyel and it doesn't even mean he's here to attack them, he might just be being cautious like Leareth said he would be, aaaaaaaaaah–

(She continues to be unarmed and un-Gifted and under orders to cooperate with whatever Vanyel or any of the other Heralds want to do to her. She holds very still.) 

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Vanyel nearly whacks Blai as hard as he can with Mindspeech anyway when he senses his instinctive resistance, but manages to catch himself in time. Blai was startled, that's all, he's not fighting it now and if he does decide to - or is under a compulsion that forces him to - then he needs to use the spell that frees him first before he can use offensive magic, which should give Vanyel enough time to knock him out, and even if he gets something off, Vanyel is in fact really well shielded right now. 

...He apologetically paralysis-spells the messenger too, even though she almost certainly can't do anything to him. 

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She flops in the snow and tries not to panic about this. This isn't even on the more hostile end of ways Vanyel could have reacted, she's still conscious and everything. 

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:I need to get close enough to check if Leareth left any sneaky compulsions on you that would force you to attack me when you see me or something: Vanyel tells Blai. :You wouldn't necessarily know it was there. ...I can fix it, if he did, I can't fix everything he could've done but I can handle that. I'm not going to hurt you.: 

Yfandes should stay behind, he can go the rest of the way on foot and if something does go wrong then Yfandes can warn Stef and hopefully get him safely out of here. Vanyel starts trekking toward them.  

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(Vanyel also isn't keeping perfect track of the time, but Blai's Endure Elements is going to run out while he's making his way over.) 

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This would be completely inadequate security if Blai still channeled negative, but he does not. He goes over the sitrep again in case Vanyel didn't catch it all the first time. Also Vanyel should in fact totally hurt him if that's the best way to get him somewhere appropriate safely, Blai has been knocked unconscious before and it's fine if you get healed afterwards.

- also now he's very cold! Which, again, not a problem, positive energy works on frostbite, but, like, if that's operationally relevant, he's not Endure Elements'd anymore.

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What in the world is 'channeling negative', that did not come up at all before, what does that even mean– nevermind, Blai is very clearly thinking that he can't do it even if the "anymore" is confusing and Vanyel has additional questions. 

Vanyel doesn't actually have a great way to Heal Blai from knocking him out with Mindspeech - his Healing Gift is very weak and Healing in general isn't very good for backlash - and he's pretty unsure on his calibration of how hard he would have to hit him, he probably wouldn't kill Blai by accident if he overdoes it but he might, like, hit him hard enough that he's out for candlemarks and doesn't clearly remember the last day when he wakes up. Also it'll give him backlash in his Mindspeech channels which would be inconvenient for later conversations. He could knock Blai out with Healing - with a lot of effort - but only if he gets close enough to touch him, and at that point he can just check if there's a compulsion problem.  

He will hope this is the right amount of paranoid, and approach the rest of the way very slowly and very shielded in case "Vanyel gets within five feet of him" was the trigger condition for a compulsion. 

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Doesn't seem to be.

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The messenger is dressed for the weather and is not as unpleasantly cold as Blai but this is very stressful. Also there's a stick or something digging into her side, and her nose is itching and she can't reach to scratch it. None of that is very important but it's distracting. She's trying very hard to stay calm and keep her thoughts on the message rather than pointless side tangents though she's wondering if Vanyel is in fact very attractive, the songs about him make it sound that way 

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Once he's within a few feet, it doesn't take very long for Vanyel to be sure that there are no compulsions on either of them. 

He wouldn't be able to see Mindhealing, but Vanyel does know rather a lot about how Mindhealing works, and he doesn't think you could do Mindhealing that was invisible and had no effect until a particular trigger was met, and then suddenly had an effect as drastic as "forcing Blai to go against his entire personality and try to kill Vanyel." It's not a spell that can be set to go off under particular conditions; it's a direct modification of someone's patterns of thought. Mindhealing could alter how Blai feels about Leareth, but he's not exactly giving off the impression of new sympathy toward Leareth. It's conceivable he could have false memories of the last few candlemarks, it's - still something Vanyel should check before he believes anything Blai reports (and the same goes for the messenger) - but the risk profile is different. 

:You're clear: he tells Blai. :...Of compulsions done with mage-gift, at least. There's another Gift I wouldn't be able to detect directly because I don't have it. - did anything they did to you feel like the room was melting?: 

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:A little bit. It seemed at the time like its principal consequence was that I could move afterwards but you would know more than I about whether it's likely that's all that was happening.:

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Shit that definitely sounds like Leareth does have a Mindhealer. 

:When did you stop being able to move, before that? What did that feel like?: If Blai's memory of it sounds like a set-command then he's almost certain it was a Mindhealer, but also they could just have been taking off the set-command. 

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:That was during the kidnapping itself when I was preparing to try to fight them off. Like someone shouting at me loud enough that it would have been deafening if there'd been sound involved.:

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:...Right, that was a set-command. That's a Mindhealer thing, not a spell. It's fast and more thorough than a compulsion and - Mindhealers are very rare but obviously Leareth has one. They could have done other things and then made it so you can't remember when they were doing it. I think it's very unlikely they could have made a change that's hidden now but will surprise us later - like, I don't think Mindhealing would let them send you back with a hidden command to hurt me if certain conditions are hit, or, I don't know, assassinate our King if we bring you back to Haven, or something. But they could probably make you remember things that didn't actually happen, or forget things that did happen, and Mindhealing can definitely make you, er, think differently about a situation than you would have before. I - probably need someone who has the Gift and can Look directly before I can be sure if they left any changes.: 

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:Of course you should take whatever precautions are appropriate.: He is presently agnostic about whether him being very cold is one of those. Stranger things have happened.

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This is awful, Vanyel simultaneously feels like he's not being nearly paranoid enough and ALSO like he's being a horrible person to Blai, who is after all the one who just got kidnapped and probably had a terrible time even if Leareth didn't, like, actually torture him. 

:I want to keep the paralysis-spell up for a while longer and, er, I'm going to ask you to go through what you remember and read your mind while you do, I can't directly see Mindhealing but I could see if you have - gaps, or non-sequiturs in your memory of what happened that you're not able to notice yourself, or anything weird like that. If I don't see anything weird then - I don't think we know if we can trust what you remember to be true, but I would feel more sure that you're - safe for me to be around until someone with Mindhealing-Sight can check.: 

He still feels terrible but he can at least put up a weather-barrier and put his cloak over Blai while the air is warming up around them. 

 

(He's definitely ending up ignoring Leareth's messenger because everything he could possibly say feels incredibly awkward.) 

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The messenger has no idea what Vanyel is doing, he's probably communicating in Mindspeech. It makes sense for him to be focusing on whether his ally is all right, or alternatively checking if the person who has actual magic is compulsioned to attack him. She can be patient. 

Also he's so pretty that's not even fair. 

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So Blai thinks through his perspective on the kidnapping and subsequent interrogation. It does have gaps but they were because of how he approached his Law-puzzle, insofar as he can remember it, he suspected mindreading and did not want kidnapping to be a helpful approach, the enchantments were like so but not that hard to be unhelpful around, possibly they would have been refined over time if they'd worked on him longer. He was not physically harmed though for a while they weren't letting him cast spells; they probably didn't even mean for that to be Illegible Torture particularly.

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It's a little hard to distinguish suspicious weirdness in Blai's thoughts from...the fact that Blai is kind of a weird person in general...but Vanyel already knew that and he thinks all of that makes sense and is a characteristic way for Blai to have behaved in that situation. 

He feels awful about illegibly torturing Blai some more by not letting him cast spells!!! Blai is being so accommodating about all of this!! None of this was his fault and he didn't owe Valdemar anything and it would be so reasonable of him to be mad at Vanyel because this happened. 

 

:I'm going to take off the paralysis-spell: he tells Blai. :Though, er, I'm going to be kind of jumpy and I would appreciate it if you warned me before using any magic.: 

And he takes apart the spell. Blai can move now; also it's now quite warm inside the weather-barrier. 

:I'm really sorry we involved you in a way that got you kidnapped by Leareth: Vanyel rubs the back of his neck unhappily. :Also I'm still confused by - the sequence of decisions here - Leareth claims he thought you were somehow responsible for k'Treva being destroyed, according to a letter he dropped off at the same time he snatched you - but it seems like something he would only do if he was fine with setting off the war...: 

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:May I cast Guidance. You've seen me do it before and it will look the same every time unless for whatever reason I need to use my other hand in which case it's mirrored.:

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Vanyel has indeed seen Blai cast it before, kind of a lot of times. He still tenses slightly, but - :Of course.: 

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Guidance. Twice; he spends the first one immediately thinking about the intel situation and keeps the second. :He did seem - from my possibly manipulated recollection - to think that I or possibly Iomedae might have destroyed k'Treva, and I did not mean to directly answer this curiosity but he may have learned that we didn't anyway. If he did not do it, it does seem, like I remember observing to Savil, that it would be a possible move to have you at Leareth's throat, though I don't know who could have done it or would have wanted to.:

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:He could probably have learned by mindreading you that you didn't do it, even if you were being uncooperative and not thinking 'I didn't do it', just - because if you had done it on your goddess' orders, or knew your goddess was going to do it, you would be - thinking about it differently.: 

Vanyel absently picks up a random stick and starts shredding it into pieces. :Also I - from his initial letter it seems like he didn't realize you were from another world? He was speculating that you could be a priest of Anathei - who I guess is known to do big Healing miracles that could look like what you did in public, and his spies hadn't actually seen any of your other magic - and, I mean, if he guessed from mindreading you that you were from another world, which it really seems like he should have been able to even if you were being unhelpful, then - I guess he would have less reason to assume that you were specifically here to cause a war...: 

He closes his eyes. :Jisa - one of the Heralds, sorry, you haven't met her - brought up a horrible idea. We know the monster came out of the Pelagirs. The Star-Eyed Goddess could probably have done both, and - She definitely wants me to fight Leareth, She may have been involved in setting it up so that I would have the power to fight him in the first place: an echo of bitterness in the Mindspeech overtones, :- the part I couldn't believe was that She would kill several hundred of Her own people for it...: 

But it only makes sense for Leareth to send Blai back if he doesn't want a war (or if it's a trap, but he hasn't seen what the trap could be yet), and it only make sense for Leareth to be trying to avoid a war if he wasn't trying to set one off in the first place. 

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:Sarenrae smote a city once.:

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Well that's disturbing. 

:I don't think our world has evil gods though. ...Well, unless you're asking Leareth.: 

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:She's not Evil. Sarenrae is Neutral Good. She had a compelling reason and also every time you mention it around one of Her people they look like they're reciting something they've said a million times and tell you it was a mistake and She like everyone else can repent of her mistakes.:

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Vanyel is looking incredibly disturbed right now. 

:I mean. I guess you could say the Star-Eyed could have a compelling reason. If, if Leareth is, if Leareth winning would be - worse than that - but it's not: a stumble in his Mindspeech, :why would it be necessary? We were on track to go to war anyway! It was a really long shot that we could find a better alternative...: 

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:Oh, I have no idea, this is very much speculation, but you don't have to be specifically postulating the Star-Eyed as Evil to consider Her a candidate. Presumably if they were all Her people She'd know what afterlife they were headed for anyway?:

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That's - a confusing thing to say. 

:I mean, some of Her people become spirit guides: though it's deeply unclear how much they're still themselves, :but as far as I can tell the stories about - gods having afterlives for their followers where your spirit keeps living - for any of the gods - are...mostly not true.: Pause. :Does it work differently in your world?: 

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:You don't have afterlives?? Why don't you have af- how do you know they're not true, you don't have clerics or even wizards, you wouldn't have anybody to do resurrections and plane shifts and scries anyway.:

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:You could say 'how do you know that's not true' about almost anything! I don't think having afterlives is...the default such that you'd need evidence to rule it out...I guess maybe it is in your world?:

Shrug. :From what I know directly, people die and - part of their spirit keeps existing, but not having experiences.: Echoes of a familiar room with a glazed door, dusty nebulas on the other side, a boy who hadn't changed in over a decade while Vanyel had grown up without him. :And sometimes the gods put their spirit back to be born again and they're - sort of the same person, in some underlying way - but don't remember anything. The Companions are reincarnated Heralds who remember a little more. Leareth - had some method that puts him back remembering even more, I guess, but I think not everything. I guess I can't rule out that some gods actually do something more like afterlives, but - I have no specific reason to think so.: 

He closes his eyes. :Leareth - gods, I guess I didn't say any of this before - Leareth wanted to, or claimed to anyway, to - make a better god. That would do something better about people dying, among other things. If he's - telling the truth about anything he's ever told me - then he would definitely have confirmed it.: 

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:...okay. I don't know what's going on with that. It could be that the gods here just aren't releasing souls into the River and have some kind of arrangement with Pharasma that allows that. Or I guess this could be outside Creation entirely but you're entirely too human for that to feel likely to me. Golarion people definitely have afterlives, they can be scried there and resurrected from there and visited there with the right spells. There are nine afterlives depending on the deceased's alignment - usually matches their reading in life but there's a trial, sometimes it's surprising.:

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:That’s so specific, why are there exactly nine…: He shakes his head. Not the priority right now. :Sorry, I should probably actually talk to Leareth’s messenger: even if this feels enormously more awkward as an interaction than talking to Blai, he’s definitely putting it off at this point.

:If you’re, um, do you need anything? Yfandes has food and water in her saddlebags, I can ask her to come over now that I’m more sure it’s safe.: 

If it’s a trap, it’s probably not one where it actually helps if Yfandes keeps her distance.

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:I made myself some water before we came here and will warn you before I make more. I'm not hungry.: He did get to eat most of his breakfast before the kidnapping.

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:All right.: He'll tell Yfandes to go back to Stef, then, and confirm that this didn't seem to be the kind of trap where he was immediately attacked or anything was set to explode when he got near it, and - he's going to be a little while. 

(He needs to think about what he can still check, what precautions he should be taking, and - what the next decision to be made even is, from here. He...hadn't thought that far ahead, really, when he left Haven in a hurry.) 

 

He will, uh, confirm that the messenger speaks Valdemaran, and introduce himself even though she almost certainly know he is and ask her name, and then cast a second-stage Truth Spell even though he's also reading her mind (and is pretty sure Leareth expected and intended her to and that was part of the message), and - what does she want him to know? 

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Her name is Feniss and she's here to tell him that Leareth says he had no involvement in either recent incident and, uh, to her knowledge cannot possibly have destroyed k'Treva, and it's in theory possible she wouldn't know if he had planned the Changecreature attack but it would make no sense with what she knows of his other planning. She wasn't chosen for being ignorant of a lot of Leareth's operations and thus unable to give things away; she does some administrative work related to the god-research side of his organization, mainly, and she's not closely involved in his military planning, but is pretty sure that she would know if he was staging large-scale troop movements and he isn't. Until yesterday everything was routine and happening at the pace you would expect if he planned to move in a year or two - though she didn't know the exact planned date - and even in an organization with a lot of compartmentalization and secrecy compulsions in routine use, she would have noticed if some of her friends were suddenly inexplicably busy even if she wasn't cleared to know what they were working on. 

(Reading between the lines, Vanyel could learn quite a lot about how Leareth's organization operates - and its weaknesses - by asking her the right questions. That's not the main message she's here to convey but it's deliberate, that he wouldn't have chosen to send her unless he was willing to take that risk and wanted Vanyel to know that.) 

Leareth instructed her to convey that another world existing changes everything and he intends to take a step back and re-evaluate, and also that's...self-evident to her...from everything. Leareth took a thousand years to move on this plan at all, even though it was one of the first he thought of. She thinks he probably took everything into account correctly on how long to spend looking for alternatives, but some of the people she works with think he should have moved sooner. But obviously waiting is going to turn out to have been the right call if there's another world and there was no way to know that until now! It seems pretty likely the whole invasion plan will be called off and they're going to pivot the organization toward work related to the other world, though of course it's premature to get hopeful about that when they don't actually know for sure if two-way travel is possible. 

She thinks it's not really that surprising that the Star-Eyed Goddess (or other gods) would be willing to kill several hundred people to push the war to happen now, especially if They thought Vanyel might be on a track where he would otherwise end up allying with Leareth. The gods kill thousands of people all the time in the downstream effects of Their actions, just in less obvious ways. It's mostly surprising and confusing because it's blatant, and you would expect it to be costly to Her and possibly to cause the kind of chaotic ripples in Foresight that would make it harder for the gods to precisely nudge events happening now, and also it seems like...overkill? And like a plan more obviously-to-Vanyel within Leareth's capabilities would have been more likely to convince Vanyel it was his doing. And in general she thinks they're probably missing part of the picture. 

 

She wants to convey that Leareth was aware the kidnapping was incredibly escalatory and would be hard to step back from, only made the decision at all because he was worried there might be more destructive interventions if the god-agent was left in Haven, is not sure it was the right call even in expectation, and is probably willing to make even very costly concessions now if it will convince Vanyel he wants to avoid a war. She personally isn't authorized to promise anything on his behalf, but she can answer any questions he has and can in fact talk about a lot of topics she normally couldn't openly, she works at a high enough level to have agreed to standard secrecy compulsions but Leareth took them off for this. 

She does have a way to get messages back to Leareth, though it's a one-time-use artifact so ideally it would be one message once Vanyel knows what he wants to say. 

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...Vanyels relays to Yfandes so she can have Stef take notes. He feels like it would be distracting and mildly rude to sit there taking notes in front of her while he reads her mind. 

 

(He's also going to keep bouncing over to read Blai's mind, not incredibly closely but he still has an itchy feeling about the thing where this really seems like it should be a trap.) 

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His Guidance expires without him having anything to spend it on. Vanyel looks like he's concentrating so he doesn't move to cast another right away, what if Vanyel startles and zaps him with something. It's very toasty inside this spell, it's not like an Endure Elements at all, so he shifts the cloak off of him. Wrings a little snowmelt out of his pants. He hopes his men back at #11 are holding up all right without any clerics, he tried pretty hard to retain that random Gozrehn but she wouldn't stay and he's not sure why. Iomedae, things still seem kind of dicey here with this evil archmage, and also there's a god smiting cities maybe possibly, could You put Her in touch with Sarenrae by any chance. What if a blizzard kicks up out of nowhere and they don't have visibility to get anywhere else, should he finish the quinzee? He doesn't think he could make it big enough for Yfandes, does that make it too rude to keep building it. Last time he got caught in a blizzard they had to eat a horse before the weather cleared up and they could continue to the outpost. What if Yfandes is reading his mind and noticed that he thought that and is offended on behalf of equines. Nobody will have to eat any horses here because he's third circle and if they get stranded he can Create Food but there's just no good way to make a heap of snow big enough to shelter her overnight.

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All of that feels exactly like the way Blai previously thought and there's no point at which this can be taken as confirmation that Leareth didn't mess with his head but...at some point it's got to be evidence, right? 

 

 

...Vanyel has a problem. 

Well, several problems.

One of his problems is that he wants advice, desperately, and - Blai actually had surprisingly good advice, before, from an outside perspective - and is probably not inclined to be biased in Leareth's favor. If it's still entirely Blai in there. 'Asking for advice for a fraught confusing decision' is exactly what he shouldn't do if he still thinks Blai (and maybe the messenger too?) could have been subtly Mindhealed with, presumably, the goal of convincing Vanyel to let down his guard. 

His second problem is that all the Mindhealers he trusts are in Haven. 

His third problem is that he...kind of stormed out and went north ambiguously against orders, and he's always taken for granted that he could count on the other Heralds for basic logistics, like arranging for a Mindhealer to be in a place, and right now he isn't sure he can. There's also the fact that arguably no one else - no one else with a Companion, which is most of the people he would trust to ask - well, okay, Jisa, but he definitely can't ask Jisa to come north and help him think about this - can think clearly about the possibility that Leareth has a point about the gods. If he asks for help figuring out how to verify Leareth's side of the story, that probably won't go well.  

His fourth problem is that...if Leareth is telling the truth, and the Star-Eyed Goddess destroyed k'Treva, then - there's also a Heartstone in Haven. 

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There's a Mindhealer in...Waymeet, he thinks? The town on the map closest to the pass, but he didn't have a Gate-location there. One of the new recruits from the northern march, if he's remembering correctly. Melody thought well of her. And all he actually needs her to confirm is whether any Mindhealing change are still there in Blai's mind. He probably has the enough of a reputation that he could ask for that without explaining at all and she would do it. 

The problem is that she's from the north and what if she works for Leareth

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...Maybe Stef has ideas. Vanyel can Mindspeak him at this range and...wants to, even apart from needing advice, it's sort of absurd how much he misses Stef after being a mile away from him for less than a candlemark. 

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Stef considers the problem for a while and is pretty sure he has an idea! 

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That...might work? 

He would feel a lot happier about it if he could go with Stef, but he's absolutely not leaving the possibly-Mindhealed-to-mess-things-up people behind, and Yfandes can't carry four people. 

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...He should probably explain to Blai what's going on. 

:We have a plan to get a Mindhealer here with - some urgency, but it might be a day or two if we're unlucky - and without attracting attention or making it obvious to Leareth until they're here. I think we shouldn't go back to Haven and we probably shouldn't involve the other Heralds until I'm - more sure, one way or another. Er. I could honestly really use advice but it's plausibly a bad idea to use you as a sounding board for confusing problems when we still don't know if Leareth's Mindhealer did anything to you. ...Though I haven't seen anything indicating he did and at this point that's some evidence he didn't.: 

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:I certainly wouldn't take my advice if I were you and we were on my planet! But we're not, so you're the expert on whether my advice will be contaminated. Will the heat spell last at least until tomorrow morning? After that I can prepare enough Endure Elements for everyone.:

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:I can keep it up as long as I want, there’s plenty of node-energy here. Yfandes will come drop off my camp supplies and then go with Stef. …Also we’re apparently right on top of one of Leareth’s supply caches and we could in theory sleep in there if the weather gets too bad, I don’t think it’s a vastly higher risk of a trap if I check it thoroughly first.: 

He’s going to do that himself rather than following the instructions that could be intended to trigger some sort of trap-artifact that puts compulsions on him, or something, though really you would think Leareth would have had many opportunities to come up with a less convoluted way to get at him given how he was riding north with just Stef. 

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:Since you probably can't take my advice anyway, is it okay if I make a chess set?:

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Vanyel should probably not take Blai's advice even though the threat he's worried about here is something he has no specific reason to believe is even possible and is mostly worried about on the vague belief that probably Leareth can figure out a way to do anything, which should maybe apply less when Leareth had one of his staff doing it who is presumably not also two thousand years old. But he's going to be tempted to rationalize it because he doesn't want to sit here awkwardly having nothing to do except wait for maybe the next two days. 

:You can make a chess set.: He's dully curious why in the world Blai has a spell to do that specifically but at this point not even especially surprised. 

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He casts a spell. It's got a more complicated gesture than most of them. "Prestidigitation." And then he sets about materializing chess pieces and a board, one at a time.

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Huh. Neat. 

Yfandes drops off his bedroll and tent and saddlebags of food and also Stef's horse, who won't be able to keep up. Vanyel is pretty sure that Blai doesn't have his food-creating spell today, since he prioritized being ready to fight a kidnapping attempt (not that this actually worked), so he'll dig out some supplies and use a direct heat-spell to start cooking pease porridge on; it's a lot more tiring than lighting a normal fire, but tidier and less smoky and doesn't involve taking his eye off Blai or Feniss to go find firewood. 

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And Stef rides Yfandes to Waymeet. 

It turns out Yfandes is really fast when she's not holding back. Stef is pretty sure they're...skipping?...bits of forest entirely, and feels vaguely seasick by the time she gets him there, somehow barely a candlemark later even though it's over twenty miles and they mostly weren't even on the road. 

 

...He stops outside the town. Puts on Vanyel's spare Whites, which are only a little big on him. Rubs some soot into his hair to disguise the color. Finishes writing the letter he started earlier while he was waiting for Yfandes to get back, and makes sure the envelope is properly sealed. 

Gets out the token he carries as one of Herald Katha's spies. 

He spends a few moments rotating it in his head, putting on the right face and mannerisms, and then he forges into Waymeet like a man on an urgent mission. Which he totally is so that part doesn't even require acting skill. 

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It turns out that given sufficient desperation, Stef can successfully impersonate a Herald - who basically no one in Valdemar has met, Herald Ubran has Receptive Empathy that barely deserves the name and no other Gifts and has spent most of the last decade as Katha's agent in Hardorn - to the senior Mindhealer stationed in Waymeet, and convince her that he needs an urgent letter conveyed to Melody in Haven. And also (or so he hopes) successfully given the impression that this is a private and sensitive matter and it would be highly inappropriate to mention Herald Ubran's visit to any other Heralds who might come through. 

(Waymeet is shockingly active for a small border town, and there's a Gate scheduled in a candlemark, to be cast by one of the White Winds mages who Jisa apparently brought over first thing this morning; they're already moving people closer to the border. Stef is on the one hand glad he guessed right, that the Heralds are alarmed enough to make that happen in a hurry - if there wasn't an emergency, the letter would have to travel the slow way and it might take weeks - but it also makes it pretty nervewracking. He's very relieved when he makes it out of town without anyone suspecting his disguise.) 

 

If Agnetta does work for Leareth, well, maybe he'll get a report in a while about Herald Ubran having a problem that called for a Mindhealer, but hopefully he still has no way to connect it to the current situation. He would have had to have a Farseer tasked solely with watching Stef for the last multiple candlemarks, and Yfandes still might have lost them on the ride over. 

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A candlemark and change later, in Haven: 

 

"You taught Bard Stefen my private cipher?!" 

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"Um. I was twelve, all right? I'm sorry! ...Though it's good he did know it, I don't think Leareth could possibly have read the message even if he intercepted it. Does he say what he urgently wants you for?" 

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"Nnnnot exactly. They need a Mindhealer to 'confirm something', it's very urgent, I should bring you in on it but avoid telling anyone else including any of the other Heralds, and can I find a pretext to be in either Waymeet or Havenbeck today or tomorrow that doesn't make it obvious it has any connection to Vanyel going north." 

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"All right, hmm. He's - really worried about operational security, that would make sense if he thinks Leareth has a way of spying on the Heralds, he's probably less likely to have arranged a way to spy on your office. And they're asking for you, and not any other backup, they're - not mostly expecting a fight - 

 

- oh! That would be...I think they did it! I think they rescued the priest! Stef, what did you doooooooo I want to knooooooow... All right, I assume either Leareth did something horrible to him and they need a Mindhealer because he's really not okay, or - maybe they're worried Leareth did a compulsion sort of thing to him but with Mindhealing so Vanyel couldn't detect it? Is that a thing?"

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"I mean. couldn't do that! ...To be clear, I could do a set-command but you really would not need a Mindhealer to confirm that, and the letter is definitely saying they need to confirm something, not fix something. If they're worried Leareth did something to compromise him that they can't detect at all by reading his mind and need a Mindhealer to notice at all, well, I'm kind of suspicious of the whole thing where people seem determined to believe Leareth can do something because it's generally believed to be impossible.

...Though I suppose maybe they want confirmation because they did notice something might be off. In which case it would definitely be good to either fix it or reassure them they can stop panicking about it." 

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"That would fit with them not wanting to just come back to Haven, too, if they're worried he could be dangerous because Leareth got to him." 

 

Jisa is biting her tongue on the words 'I think there's an argument should go.'

There totally is! She's looked at Select Blai with Mindhealing Sight before; she'll be able to see any changes at a glance. She can defend herself; she can probably take Need, who's with Shavri right now but was weirdly restless all morning. It'll actually be less obvious to spies in Haven that she's gone anywhere, since she's been "off sick" from her work at Mindhealers' so she can do secret Gates instead. 

She's never been to Waymeet or Havenbeck, but she does have the trick of Gating off someone's memory of a location - it's not even that hard, as weird ways of doing Gates go - and Sarissa from White Winds just rotated back from Waymeet and probably has a nice fresh memory of somewhere shielded she can Gate in, so she could go right now rather than wait for the next scheduled Gate and try to come up with an unsuspicious pretext. It wouldn't even stand out given all the Gate-activity there's already been today. 

On the other hand, she is lifebonded to the heir. 

 

On the other other hand, she really doesn't think Vanyel would have felt comfortable asking Melody to put herself in this situation if he thought there was significant danger. 

Also Melody is going to be beleaguered about it and Jisa waaaaaaaaants to go

 

Enara is worried but not actually arguing against the plan. 

...Yeah, all right, she's going to make her case. 

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Melody feels like she shouldn't let Jisa win this argument, but - she doesn't actually want to go north, and Jisa is honestly better at winning arguments than she is. 

"Treven is going to be furious with me if something happens to you and he finds out I knew, you know." 

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"I'm going to tell him I'm doing something that I think could help us not lose the war and I don't think he should know the details yet." 'Not lose' includes not fighting it, but Treven is too panicked to be reasonable about that still being among their options, and even Jisa has to admit it looks a lot less likely after this morning. 

Also, she's going to be a coward and tell him by leaving a note, but if she says that to Melody then Melody will give her that look again. 

She hesitates. "....Um, if I don't come back and don't send any messages and you're - not sure if something happened to me - I think you should tell Brightstar. Stef said we especially shouldn't tell Heralds, but he's not one, and - he knows ways of finding me and checking if I'm all right." 

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Brightstar was kind of alarming last time Melody briefly interacted with him, and she's not sure if Jisa is just too close to him to see that, but Melody nods and only looks a little dubious. 

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Asking for Need back is a perfectly normal and expected thing to do and does not arouse anyone's suspicion, and Need is unsurprisingly fully on board with the plan, even though the person being rescued from danger is a man.

It's almost too easy to leave some breadcrumbs so that the White Winds mages think she's helping Savil with something and Savil thinks she's with Treven and Treven thinks she's gone to check on Mindhealers' and also she's mentioned to at least six people that she's probably going to go to bed early, and there's enough happening at once that it should take really quite a long time before anyone notices she's not in any of the places where they think she could be. Rolan is almost certainly way too busy to notice that Enara isn't in Haven. And hopefully this is straightforward and she's back by morning if not earlier. 

 

It's only midafternoon when she leaves, though midafternoon just after Midwinter still means sunset is in less than a candlemark. 

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Stef has still been waiting for over two candlemarks, hiding outside town without even having a weather-barrier because Vanyel is twenty miles away, and he's by now pretty miserable about this situation, and trying to figure out which of his life choices he should be regretting, because it seems like 'going with Vanyel' should never be one of them but if he had stayed in Haven he could be warm right now. 

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Hunt hunt hunt for his mind, he didn't say anything about where to meet but hopefully he's findable around here somewhere... 

 

:Stef? You called for a Mindhealer?:

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Stef nearly falls off Yfandes' back, not that this takes much.

:Jisa? What are you doing here?: 

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:Look, I'm deciding not to be hurt that you didn't ask for me in the first place, but really! I can defend myself if something goes wrong and also I was pretty sure you wanted me to look at Blai and I've read him with Mindhealing Sight before, Melody's never even met him.: 

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He didn't say anything in the letter about it being Blai. 

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:You rescued him, right? I'm not going to demand the whole story from you right now but only because I should really check if he's all right first. What are you worried about?: 

Being a Thoughtsenser who can sense anyone coming and knowing White Winds illusion-techniques that barely leak any mage-energy makes it very easy to get to the edge of town without being seen and head in Stef's direction. She walks separately from Enara, because a spy watching with Farsight probably can't tell Companions apart that well and she's not dressed as a Herald or making it easy for anyone to see her face. 

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:We, er, didn't exactly rescue him.: That WOULD be a much cooler story, though Stef cannot imagine how Jisa thought they could possibly have pulled it off. :Leareth...apparently decided to let him go.: 

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:What, really? That's - good, right - 

 

 

- all right I can imagine what you might be worried about -: 

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:Van says he seems normal now. For him, I mean. But there was definitely a Mindhealer involved, he was set-commanded and they blocked his magic - they undid all of that before letting him go, but he doesn't know what else they did.: 

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:...Okay. So that, uh, probably means Leareth knows that we're here?: Fortunately she has the hood of her cloak - not Whites, she's dressed like one of the Rethwellani mages - pulled over her head, and doesn't think anyone saw her anyway. :Though - if he gave Blai back then it seems less likely he's planning to attack you? He didn't have to do that.: 

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:Van's been thinking himself in circles trying to figure out how it could be a trap. ...I think it's more likely not to be, at this point, Leareth wouldn't have to bother with something this convoluted. And the plan can't have been to get you out here and vulnerable because we didn't even ask for you.: 

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:I was careful about leaving, he shouldn't know I'm here. ...I guess if I do see Mindhealing-compulsions on him then it's probably a trap and I should get out. But I can check from far enough away that he doesn't know I'm there, I've been practicing with my Sight and Enara can boost me.: 

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All right. It's this way. They can get there in another candlemark because apparently Companions were holding out on them about how fast it's possible to run through a snowy forest. 

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She's in Thoughtsensing range well before she's in range for Mindhealing Sight, and will take the opportunity to start zeroing in on Blai's mind and see if she can notice anything weird from here. 

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He's much different to read when he is playing chess, even just against himself (Feniss didn't seem interested or possibly didn't know the rules, and he can't actually talk to her). Pawn takes knight, queen takes pawn, if the rook moves to threaten the queen then that pawn is able to advance but probably the other knight can grab it before it promotes,

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...Huh. That's definitely different but it would be a baffling choice for Leareth to have used Mindhealing to make him do that! Unless the idea is to make it hard to mindread him about his actual motives, but - plausibly he's just doing this because they've been sitting there waiting with nothing else to do for four or five candlemarks. 

She slows down once they're close enough that Blai could conceivably hear any noise they make, and then dismounts a hundred yards off and advances on foot. She could see a set-command at fifty yards, she thinks, but they're pretty sure it's not that, so she'll need to get closer to see more detail. 

Forty yards...thirty...there's his weird garden with its lovely trellis, has anyone been interfering with it? 

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Some things have been pulling on it but it's not the kind of trellis that takes damage just from being yanked on or it couldn't hold up all those vines! The trellis thrives on being yanked some occasionally. How else would you know it was sound.

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That's already pretty reassuring! Jisa stops and sits with her back to a big tree; she doesn't think he's noticed her, he seems pretty absorbed in his chess game, though presumably Van knows she's there and is letting her concentrate. 

 

Can she see where the yanking happened? Whether or not they put it back later, it seems informative if they were trying to shift around his...core motivations, way of thinking...or just blocking him from taking actions or using magic, which would be a lot more contained to only a few parts of his mind, though the effect could could ripple more widely if access to his magic is emotionally loadbearing for him or something. 

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Doesn't look like they touched his core motivations. Does look like access to his magic is emotionally loadbearing; he's got irrigation set up in there that looks like it could turn into a flashback on short notice for that among other reasons. There's compulsion aftereffects, which may have done more trellis-yanking than any Mindhealing that happened to him.

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Jisa is not actually experienced at examining the aftereffects-to-Mindhealing-Sight of someone being interrogated under compulsions, though she has seen aftereffects on someone questioned under a coercive Truth Spell who had a very bad time with it. She has to spend a while staring at it and puzzling out what probably happened. 

:He's clear: she tells Vanyel. :I don't think they even tried to alter his motivations or do anything to his memory. They used something that wasn't Mindhealing and probably had effects similar to a second-stage Truth Spell but - cruder - I think that was harder on him than the Mindhealing, but you'd be able to see if there was any trace left. Someone picked out a set-command but it was really cleanly done.: She still can't do it that neatly, though partly because it rarely comes up to practice. Her mindvoice is faintly impressed. 

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Great. Now he can be angry instead if terrified. :Jisa, what are you DOING here? What were you thinking?: 

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Aaaaaand here they go. 

:You asked for a Mindhealer. You did it in a way that only made sense if you were worried about it being known. I guessed– well, I actually thought you'd rescued him somehow, but - I can do a lot more than Melody can. I'm also not exactly defenseless. And I thought you couldn't be expecting it to be that dangerous, if you wanted Melody, who can't even fight.: 

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:Jisa, it's entirely possible this is a trap. I just - I thought Melody would agree with that risk, if there was also a chance we could stop the war.: 

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:...Because you think Leareth might be telling the truth.: 

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:It's hard to believe I'm really thinking that, but - yes. I'm confused, Jisa. I have been since the start.: 

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:It’s really confusing! But Savil thought it was impossible that Leareth could take down k’Treva from the inside. I think we should've taken that more seriously from the beginning. And - I mean, if Blai had done it, and we weren't ever going to believe that, don't you think Leareth would've been right to get him out of Haven? Which in case you've forgotten also has a Heartstone?: 

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Vanyel had not forgotten that, no. 

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:And if this was a trap it'd be a stupid one. I don't think Leareth can do literally anything he wants, that's giving him too much credit, but - you're in the north with just Stef. If he wanted you dead or captured I don't see why it would even be hard.: 

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And if he wanted Valdemar conquered, it already would be. 

 

That's another piece of the message in sending Feniss. Leareth doesn't need to do complicated scheming to buy time. He could probably have moved five years ago, if he wanted, and - that would have been the smart thing to do, if he already knew he was eventually going to one way or another. Valdemar still has no hope of winning, but the alliances they've made will make his victory more expensive. 

In a sense, Leareth isn't planning to fight Valdemar at all. The resources he's set up are massively overkill for that. He's worried about the gods trying something, that's the part he wanted to overdetermine, and - the ways the gods could interfere probably wouldn't be very nice for Valdemar either. 

Or for Vanyel

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Oh, he should really have asked for this sooner. :Jisa, check Leareth's messenger for Mindhealing work as well? The woman with us.: 

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Jisa should probably have thought to ask about that sooner! She hadn't been reading her mind because it's unethical to do that on no justification, but she can do it now. 

 

:- Clear. Moreso than him, I don't think a Mindhealer's touched her in her entire life. ...Er, there's some disruption that could be from long-term compulsions being taken off.: 

There are parts of the woman's garden where it looks like some dividing slats were taken down, they've left marks behind, and she's clearly not used to it and keeps self-consciously poking at it. 

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:She was under compulsions not to talk about work to anyone not cleared for it. Apparently it's standard, she agreed to it, but - I guess Leareth didn't want me to have anything to get alarmed about, and he gave her orders to tell us anything we want to know.: 

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Jisa doesn't think she needs to say that this would be a baffling thing to do if Leareth was still planning to invade. Even if he wanted to stall, he could have sent someone who didn't know any of his secrets except the exact message. 

:...I need to either get back before tomorrow morning or send a message. But I think it's worth me staying long enough to talk through what we know. And you should tell Blai he's fine so he knows he doesn't have to be stressed about it.: Though playing chess against himself is apparently a very effective way for him to manage stress. 

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If Leareth might be telling the truth, then he's not sure he wants Jisa in Haven. Where there's a Heartstone. ...He's also not sure he wants her here, but - she's probably right that most of the risk in coming at all was in the first thirty seconds. 

 

 

They do need to talk about it. And he can run it by Blai as well, now that they're not worried about trusting his advice. 

:Blai? We've confirmed there's no active Mindhealing effects on you. - the Mindhealer I called checked from a little ways off to avoid warning you in case you were compromised. But you're fine. She's coming over now.: 

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Jisa emerges from the trees. :Heya. ...You have a really neat mind, I hope that's not a weird thing to say.: 

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:...do I? I've been told it's unpleasant.:

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What, that's such a rude thing to tell someone. Who would even say that. 

:No! ...I mean, your surface thoughts can be - kind of a lot - but in Mindhealing Sight you have this beautiful trellis thing. I can bounce it to you if you want to see what it looks like to me?: 

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:A... trellis thing... yes, thank you.:

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:Like this!: 

She'll push it across to him in Mindspeech. 

:...Sorry, Mindhealing Sight is kind of confusing if you're not used to it, but - see, everything's attached to it - and it looks like you used to have a different one and I'm really curious about that but it's none of my business if you don't want to talk about it - I thought it was something your god put there at first, because I've never seen anyone else whose mind is structured like that except it's a tiny bit like what Companions have - but I think it's not that, I think the parts your god has anything to do with are just here and here: Basically just the procedural-memory interface linked up to his not-Gifts god-magic, which she can't see directly though she wonders if she could follow it with mage-sight. 

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:Those are probably my spells, casting them is instinctive even if I prepare one I've never seen or cast before.

I - don't know if my guess about it is right - if it is 'a different one' would be not quite the -: Chelish people are great at controlling their facial expressions but he has less practice with mindvoice and he's embarrassed about it.

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Jisa is soooooo curious but you do not push people to share things about their minds when they're embarrassed about it, that's so rude. 

:I might be interpreting it wrong. It just looks new, to my Sight, it's all - shiny - and, this bit has clearly been there for a really long time and doesn't make any sense if there wasn't a trellis to grow on, but - see how something was disrupted around here, and then this bit looks like it's still growing in...: She will try to focus clearly on the relevant areas while she's bouncing it to him. 

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:I think the trellis is Law.:

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:Well, it's neat! And it seems to work really well for you.: She is nooooooooot asking about the disruption because he clearly doesn't want to talk about it even though it's taking kind of a lot of willpower not to ask. :And the god-magic is interesting, it's so clean - I don't think our gods can do things in people's minds without leaving an enormous mess behind.: 

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:Clerichood and its spells are very standardized across all gods that operate on Golarion at all, it has probably had a lot of careful refinement put into it.:

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Nod. 

She pulls Vanyel into the link as well. :Right. So we need to figure out what it makes sense to...do.: 

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:Right.: 

Vanyel glances at Blai. :A complication is that - I think the Heralds are preparing for war and I don't know what it would take to convince them to back down. I, er, thought we probably shouldn't be that sure we knew what was going on, yet, and I - left sort of against orders.

...I'm worried that Heralds in general have trouble thinking about - the hypothesis that Leareth might have a point about our gods being not that great. When I learned about his plan to make his own god, I wasn't - I thought I should probably still fight him - but I wanted to think about it first. And Yfandes - panicked about it. In a confusing disproportionate way. She left for almost a week because she thought if she stayed she might repudiate me by accident over it.: 

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:Some maybe important context is that Leareth needs a power source for this and wants to kill about ten million people for blood-magic. I'm - he could be right that getting a more helpful god would be a good thing, if it works, but obviously I don't want him conquering Valdemar so he can grow the population and then kill everyone.: 

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:Yfandes didn't know that, though. That was the next dream, she left before it. She was panicking about - the idea in the abstract. That anything could justify fighting the gods. ...Makes some sense, if a god or a group of gods made the Companions.: 

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:It continues to be incredibly bizarre to me that everyone here thinks of 'the gods' as a unitary force. Even if none of them here are Evil - which I'm not sure of, a lot of Evil could hide in an anonymous mass of divinity doing things no one expects to be able to understand especially on a planet where prophecy remains functional - I would expect them to have more variety of character than has been evident so far. So - Companions come into existence pre-enchanted and once she confronted that Yfandes took a week to throw it off, and this enchantment is making it difficult to construe gods as being, in potential, enemies? And this means you're going to have a war? I can load people up on things that help with saves against enchantment, I can try dispelling it but my dispels aren't that powerful - but also he absolutely shouldn't be allowed to grow the population to ten million and then murder them all to create a god! That is worth a war to avoid! It is plausibly worth killing everyone in Valdemar before he can conquer it to avoid although I use 'plausibly' in a very loose sense where I don't expect I could become convinced enough to attempt it in practice! There are already plenty of gods and sometimes it's worth adding a new one but it sounds very much like his would turn out Evil!:

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:I have definitely had the thought that even if Leareth is telling the truth about everything, any god he would create would actually make things even worse than they already are! I'm just - I guess I'm not entirely convinced that, you know, thinking that the way things are is unacceptable and eventually becoming desperate enough to try something insane' is...: 

Helpless shrug.

:Maybe I would end up there, eventually, if I had two thousand years to - get frustrated enough with nothing else sticking. I mean, actually I would probably give up in despair first, but...: 

Does that actually make him better than Leareth, is the question. 

:His messenger thinks he's probably going to call off the entire plan and spend fifty years trying to figure out if your world has better ideas. Obviously I don't know if he lied to her to give her that impression, but I think he would've had to be lying to most of the people in his organization about what his motives are. Her thoughts about it were - very consistent.: 

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:If he can get to my world there's a Starstone he can go and try to ascend with, without killing ten million people to do it, except a new Lawful Evil god would be horrendous! Lawful Evil gods are catastrophes! They can operate on many planets and easily kill more than ten million people and damn millions more to Hell or worse! I have absolutely nothing against the stance that things are unacceptable and must be improved by drastic action and if that is really your position on the matter and you aren't Evil you be Iomedae about it!:

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:What did Iomedae do about it?: 

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:Ascended via the Starstone to become the organizing force of Heaven and its mission to defeat Evil everywhere. - She's had some setbacks since that time; in particular the god who was Her patron in her mortal life and was meant to incarnate on Golarion to bring about an Age of Glory died trying and caused several problems on His way out.:

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Having a patron god at all is already a pretty different situation from the one anyone in Velgarth is in, including Leareth.

Vanyel doesn’t say that. 

:I can imagine a lot of scenarios where I - would decide we need to do everything we can to stop him. I just. I don’t want it to be because a goddess killed several hundred of my friends - Her own people! - and made it look like Leareth did it. She could have tried to talk to me instead.:

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:- did you become confident it was Her when I was out of the loop?:

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:...I'm not absolutely certain, but - I think we should have taken it more seriously that Savil started out thinking it was impossible. He would've had to hide from most of his organization that he has that capability at all, his messenger thinks it's obviously absurd that he could have done it. I didn't think it made any sense, just - felt like the alternatives made even less sense. But the Star-Eyed could do it trivially. I - didn't want to believe She would, but - I don't, actually, have much reason to think She's...good-aligned...and even if She was, that didn't stop one of your world's gods from destroying a city once. And I already knew - or was pretty sure - that I'm meant to be a weapon against him, and the Star-Eyed was - involved in that. 

- also at one point She required that Her people make some blood sacrifices to get Her attention for help, so it's not like it's - entirely out of character.: 

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:...that's not a characteristically Good thing to do at all, no, though I suppose if they were volunteers I could imagine there being some local technical reason it couldn't be dispensed with that left Her Good.:

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Nod. :I - don't really think She's evil either? Not in - the human sense - I would have said, I think Leareth would say, that gods aren't the sort of thing where human concepts of good and evil can apply, They're too alien for that. It's actually kind of weird that apparently those concepts do apply in your world.: 

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:...why wouldn't it? They can take actions that benefit or harm people and they're not dumb animals or mindless rocks.:

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:...I mean, humans can take actions that benefit or harm insects, and most people don't actually care to track that or make decisions based on it - and would have kind of a hard time even if they wanted to, if they don't have Animal Mindspeech.: 

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:I think people can be aligned Evil for torturing animals?:

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How sensible of the alignment system! Jisa approves! 

 

:That makes sense. - we don't have a way to magically check with the universe whether the things we've been doing with our lives are good or evil, though. I assume our gods don't either. Maybe that's the difference?: 

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:I would have guessed that gods automatically knew that sort of thing about Themselves, but maybe these don't. I can't cast a Detect spell on a god, at any rate.:

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Nod. 

:...I still don't know what to do from here.: 

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:I think it does matter if Leareth is - the person he's presented himself to Vanyel as, or if he's just - saying whatever he thinks might get Vanyel to join his evil organization. If he actually cares about the things he says he cares about, then - I don't want to fight him. I don't want to let him kill ten million people either, obviously, I just - I want to persuade him that his current plan will make everything worse rather than better, and get him to do something else instead. 

- what do you think Iomedae would do?: 

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:Iomedae would talk to him. If I'm not enchanted and the messenger is not enchanted and you feel comfortable putting weight on that conclusion I think you need to be in much, much more active conversation with Leareth; the kidnapping was objectionable but he did about-face without too much delay into an entirely aboveboard release and communication attempt. I don't know what your local magic long distance communication options are but the dream clearly does not work in emergencies and you clearly have some adversary, whoever it may be, willing to create emergencies. I am willing to operate in this capacity if we believe that Leareth's willingness to stand down is substantially premised on his interest in my world and we conclude I'd be effective in the role but I would want to check his alignment, or at least find a way to verify his honesty - he'd throw off a Zone of Truth but if I were an Abadaran I'd have something that would work anyway and maybe you have something that would too - and get his oath that he will not personally ascend while he reads Evil nor create a god likely to be Evil.:

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:I saw your mind before and after. Even if he somehow had access to some Wild Gift I've never heard of and can do mind-control that doesn't show up to mage-sight or Mindhealing Sight, I would be confident he hasn't left any changes. I can see that the messenger used to have long-term compulsions but she told Vanyel that upfront, Leareth apparently uses them for operational security at higher levels in his organization and he just took everything off so Vanyel wouldn't have anything to get spooked by and because she's supposed to be able to tell us everything anyway. And she's definitely never had a Mindhealer touch her.: 

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:She has a way to get a message back to Leareth for us if we want to talk more. And - I think you're right. I told our King that I thought I would probably die doing this and might not even accomplish anything, if Leareth turned out to be - not possible to negotiate with - but I'm only one person, and - the thing in the Foresight dream where I end up trying to kill him in one-on-one combat was always stupid anyway. I feel like the rest of Valdemar has the 'all out war' angle covered. And I think it's worth someone trying to cover the other angle. I think Leareth doing an about-face and handing you back to us is - at least some evidence he's possible to negotiate with.: 

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:We have a Truth Spell. I guess it's not impossible he could throw it off but it seems not that likely he could do it while making it look like it worked. I don't think there's any reason to think he could throw off your alignment-detecting spell, if he's never seen it cast before and hasn't had any time to prepare. There isn't a kind of shield that makes you generically immune to magic effects but fakes it looking like it worked - even if it's possible at all, it would have to be a specific countermeasure spell he invented and I can't see how he would have.: 

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:I don't expect him to have Undetectable Alignment, so I'd go in with an Aura Sight or just Detect Law. I'd expect him to make the save against Zone of Truth but it sounds like your kind of sorcerer has something that works more like Abadar's Truthtelling, where if someone does that a visible effect winks out? That I'd be comfortable relying on.:

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:We have air elementals that can detect intent and someone invented a - it's basically a degenerate summoning spell that Heralds with any kind of Gift can cast - and I can imagine it being possible in theory to shield it out, but not how you would trick the air elementals into acting like it worked normally. ...I don't think I would be absolutely sure of it by itself, but if he does also read Lawful to you then - I think that's enough to go on that I would be convinced he's been telling Vanyel the truth.: 

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:...So should I tell Feniss to relay to him that we want to send you to detect his alignment? - actually we should maybe be nonspecific about what you're checking for, so he can't possibly prepare for it in advance. Jisa, I don't actually want you going before we've checked that.: Or maybe at all, actually. 

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But she waaaaaaaaaaants to see what Leareth looks like to Mindhealing Sight Vanyel does kind of have a point. 

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:Maybe he'd be willing to let me Truth Spell him. He's - been hesitant in the past to offer to meet somewhere neutral rather than sending a messenger, because of the thing where I could probably kill him - at least his current body - with a Final Strike even if he's shielded and ready for a fight. But if he's really that motivated to convince me he doesn't want this war, maybe he'll be willing to take that risk.: 

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:I won't be able to prepare a Detect until tomorrow at dawn, so there is some time to refine the idea. Uh, if you are absent without leave, should you perhaps regularize that situation sooner than that?:

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That sounds agonizing and what if Randi orders him to come back to Haven and he has to explicitly refuse  it is probably still a good idea. Ugh. 

:I should definitely send a message. And, er, give him a chance to respond and - if he orders me to come back to Haven with both of you then I...don't actually know that I would listen...given how I am not sure any of the other Heralds can think straight about the possibility that the Star-Eyed Goddess detonated the Heartstone in k'Treva, and Haven has a Heartstone too. But. He does still deserve to know what I'm doing.: 

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:...well, he can't order me anywhere, I'm not in his command structure.:

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:That's also true.: And they're honestly really lucky that Blai is the sort of person who wants to do everything he can to help Valdemar anyway. 

Sigh. :All right. I'm going to talk to Feniss and then - write a letter for Randi, I guess, and deliver it in Waymeet. And we should be able to exchange written messages with Leareth to coordinate, once he knows we're interested in talking, he has these mage-construct bird things that can carry letters.: 

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Feniss has been waiting very patiently through what she assumes is a contentious Mindspeech debate on what to do next. She's mostly trying to keep her thoughts from containing an awkward amount of admiring how pretty Vanyel is, even though this is the best available distraction from worrying that Kernos or the Star-Eyed is going to kill them all with an unlucky earthquake or something. 

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....Also he should probably update Stef, who's still been waiting in the forest with Yfandes in case something went wrong and they needed one of them to be able to make a quick getaway. That's - probably not necessary? It's still nervewracking to tell Stef to join him, but - he did agree to Stef being a part of this. 

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Stef is honestly pretty mad at Vanyel at this point for apparently repeatedy forgetting that he's waiting in the forest with no idea what's going on! It's not productive to have a yelling fight about it right now, though. He will be mature even if Vanyel isn't being.

He's happy to be introduced to Blai, though they can't actually communicate unless one of the Mindspeakers pulls them both into a link and relays, so that's awkward. 

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:I prepared a Comprehend Languages today but it doesn't work the other way around at all.:

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It's okay. Stef will get the quick run-down and then, once he's properly warmed up inside the weather-barrier, play some music. 

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It's getting dark by the time Vanyel finishes his letter. Also the mages in Waymeet are not keeping up with weather-working to counter the disruption from all the Gates, and there is absolutely a nasty blizzard on the way. 

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Ughhhhhhhhhhhhh. 

:I don't want to ride to Waymeet in this. - or leave you all, the weather-barrier might come down. I...guess I could Gate there and back, but that's going to do the opposite of help with the weather and it might make someone over there panic.: 

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Jisa considers. 

:I can summon an elemental and get a message to Brightstar that way. It's a White Winds technique we both learned, it should be at least as secure as a letter. Limits the length of the message some, especially if I want to use a cipher for it, but - you'll still be able to send a letter, right, it'll just be easier in the morning? I can tell them to expect it.: 

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Vanyel doesn't like it - it makes him feel like he's avoiding Randi on purpose - but also he really doesn't want to have to do more Gates tonight, even if it's only twenty miles and back. 

:All right. Message with an elemental now, letter to Randi in the morning.: 

Does Blai seem to have any concerns about this as a plan? 

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:I have the Minor Prophecy in pocket and might as well try it about this rather than let it go to waste and not have any experience with it the next time I want to prophesy something.:

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:...Sure. Remind me how it works again? You have to pick one of us to cast it on and it shows you a vision about any important events in the next few days?: 

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:I think so. I wasn't trained in it, it wouldn't work on Golarion, but that's about what it sounded like from the Acts.:

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:How does it work if it's, er, something that was going to happen, but then we make a different decision because of what the spell showed us, so it doesn't end up happening?: 

He wants to know if he should have Blai cast the spell on Jisa rather than himself. If it shows anything bad happening he can tell her to get to safety - maybe not back to Haven, and she can't go to k'Treva anymore (a pang of grief that he doesn't let himself look at), but - surely there's somewhere she could go where she wouldn't be in danger, whether from Leareth or from...whatever the Star-Eyed might do next to try to force Vanyel's hand. Rethwellan, maybe, except that's probably not within her Gate-range from here... 

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:I don't know. It would be a fairly useless spell if you couldn't use the information, so probably you can just go ahead and make a different decision?:

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Nod. 

 

...though apparently wondering what a prophecy spell might show going wrong has prompted him to notice one possible route for things to go wrong. :Jisa, do you think the Star-Eyed could - interfere with Brightstar getting a message, if She wanted to sabotage this? He's one of Her people.: 

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:The elemental isn't! And - I trust him, he's my brother - it's not a complicated message, anyway, I'm just going to say that I'm fine and you're fine and Blai is fine and Randi should expect a letter from you tomorrow explaining more.: 

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...Nod. 

:I'm not sure if it would be more informative to cast it on me or Jisa, but - it's important to me to know if she's going to be in any danger. She's lifebonded to the heir of the Kingdom, she shouldn't be taking any risks.: 

Is Blai going to ask how Brightstar can possibly be Jisa's brother. That would be so awkward. 

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Blai has no interest in these people's family relationships, except: :Nothing you said has anything to do with whether the Star-Eyed could interfere with a message, Jisa. If my sister tried to send me an uncomplicated message, the fact that I'm her brother would not even slightly from any angle affect my god's ability to influence the situation and it wouldn't even if this relationship meant she trusted me. I would not expect Iomedae to involve Herself in my correspondence but this is because of Her other characteristics.:

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Jisa does not like that thought. 

:I guess maybe even if She can't affect the elemental, She could - make sure he was busy and didn't get the message? But I can just ask him to send a message back, and if we don't hear by midnight or something then Van can Gate to Waymeet to drop off a letter. ...Or I can, I guess, I could do it to a Work Room so people aren't startled. Though I've already done a few Gates today and summoning an elemental is way less tiring.: 

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:...I'm worried that's not being paranoid enough about what kinds of thing could go wrong.: 

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:Does he know about k'Treva? If he does not, is he being competently prevented from finding out, and if he does, is he the sort of person who will not have an operational constraint* about it to learn that a village devoted to his goddess has been wiped off the map?:

* a feeling, but like, one that matters, albeit only because the person who is having it is not very professional

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:He knows. It's not general knowledge in Haven but I wasn't going to keep it from him. ...I wouldn't say he took it well, and he probably still thinks Leareth did it, but it's not a surprise. I don't...think...he would falsify a report to the King on the grounds that he's convinced Leareth did it and doesn't think we should be trying to negotiate?: 

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:You know him and I do not. You also know your King and I do not.:

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Auuughhhh. 

:...I don't like this plan but I also don't love waiting for the blizzard to end before we send any message at all. And - having one of the White Winds mages react badly to an unexpected Gate in Waymeet also seems like the kind of thing a god could nudge, we're not that far from the Pelagirs.: 

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:We can try the prophecy spell and see if it looks like anything goes wrong?: 

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Blai nods. :On whom?:

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:...Jisa, I think. She's the one who would be sending the message if we go with that plan.: And he's still especially motivated to find out if it's a bad idea for her to be in the north. 

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Nod again. "Guidance." In case he needs spellcraft or the spell has some chance of dazing him or something. "Minor Prophecy."

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And the most significant event to happen to Jisa personally in the next five days will be: 

 

Jisa is standing in the middle of a glassy-walled passage apparently carved straight through a mountain, only a dozen paces wide but with its walls rearing high above their head. Snow is landing gently on a shield above them and melting. Vanyel and Yfandes and Stef and Blai are all standing with her.

There's also a...giant white wolf-creature-thing? Its eyes look intelligent. 

Opposite them, a dark-haired man dressed in black is standing beside the woman who did all the enchantments on Blai when he was kidnapped. Blai hasn't actually seen Leareth in person but that's probably him? 

Jisa is looking nervous and like she doesn't know what to do with her hands. "Um, I hope your travel here wasn’t too bad?” 

Vanyel snorts slightly. Leareth just inclines his head. 

"All right. Um, right, so the way this works is - it has to be symmetrical, because each half is the keystone for the other half it can't be taken down by anyone from the outside - and, um, it needs a drop of your blood to power it, but it won't be enough to bother a mage unless you really drain yourself - anyway, if you've both make the same oath not to betray each other then I think we can convince Valdemar that you aren't going to invade." 

Leareth nods. 

Jisa fidgets slightly. "Then let's get this ove–"

At which point there's a ripping screech as an entire wing of gryphons appears from nowhere, presumably from behind some kind of magical veil, to attack the shield over their heads. There's a violent explosion and everything whites out. 

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Oh ow that's a lot of information and it's all luminous and blurry, streaks of color and mood and fate and light moving across each other. Wolfcreature, enchanter, plausibly-Leareth, drops of blood for an oath spell, convincing Valdemar, attacking gryphons, explosion. :I - don't know how to render that as a report - uh -: He rubs his eyes a little even though he didn't see it with his eyes. Casts Guidance again. :- uh. The five of us were in an artificial looking mountain pass with a - white dire wolf? - opposite the enchanter I saw while kidnapped and a man with her who might have been Leareth but I have no direct confirmation. Jisa was proposing some kind of spell that wanted a drop of blood from each of - I think the one who was probably Leareth and one of us, I'd guess Vanyel but do not know from the vision alone. Something to - anchor - an oath - to the effect that they would not betray each other, to convince Valdemar no invasion would be in the offing - and then gryphons attacked? And there was an explosion?:

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What– oh that's brilliant actually, when he was going to think of that. Is Vanyel relaying for him in the Mindspeech link so Blai will - oh good he is. 

:I really should contact the kyree clan! I - sort of half thought of it earlier - we're really close to their territory and I have a talisman to call them. Actually, they might be able to pass a message for us too, so we have more redundancy in case something goes wrong with one of the other messages.: 

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Is Blai okay, that looked - slightly disruptive in the way that you would expect a god touching someone's mind to be - though it looks like he's recovering from it fine, probably? 

:Apparently I - invent an oath spell? Sometime in the next few days. Um. I have no idea how I make that work or why a drop of blood would help. I was - thinking through if you could make the vrondi do something like that, but it wouldn't be any more stuck on than a compulsion, which any other mage can just take off again...: 

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:Apparently Iftel attacks us! I. Um. That - sounds hopeful with regards to negotiations with Leareth being a good idea - but it seems pretty bad if Vkandis is sending His secret army after us to try to stop us from doing that!: 

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:You should maybe consider warning Leareth that Iftel has a secret Vkandis army. He might not know that.: 

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:Blai, are you all right? That looked, um, disorienting.: 

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:It was a bit. I don't think it was much worse than looking at something very powerful and Chaotic with Detect Chaos, which I've done before. I would be very surprised if there were any long term effects.:

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:That's what it looks like to me too, but if you have a headache Van probably has willowbark.: 

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Vanyel clears his throat. :All right. We - I think you're right, this is enough evidence that - negotiations with Leareth won't go disastrously - that I think we should probably warn him about Iftel as soon as possible. And I would love to tell Randi to keep them out of the loop as much as possible, assuming they were already contacted, which I think they probably were so it's too late to not call them for help. And Randi might not - be willing to act on that anyway. The vision doesn't sound incredibly promising on that front.: 

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:It also doesn't make it look like sending a message via Brightstar is a disaster, though? Iftel's army attacking us is a Vkandis intervention, not the Star-Eyed. So - probably the worst that happens is he doesn't get it, but we can send a redundant message with the kyree, and a letter once the weather clears and we're relocating anyway...: 

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:I don't know how fast the kyree can get to Haven, probably not before tomorrow morning if I'm only calling them now? But they could drop off a letter in Waymeet for us, I think they should be able to travel fine even in a blizzard.: 

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:Blai, do you think that's enough redundancy?: 

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:An elemental to send to Brightstar and a kyree to drop off a letter in Waymeet? Well, it's any redundancy, I don't know if it's enough, especially if any of the people who are meant to hear the message may be unconvinced. You thought I might be enchanted, will they think you are?:

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:They might? I don't expect to convince Randi to entirely call off the war, this way, just - sending a message seems better than not sending a message. I don't want to go back to Haven.: 

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:They're probably going to be moving more people to Waymeet, you could arrange to meet someone there and have them confirm you're not under compulsions? Not right now, I mean, but before we actually go talk to Leareth.: 

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Nod. :That might help. ...I don't think Randi is going to attack Leareth before we can talk, if only because I don't think he can actually find Leareth's army if they're not coming south of the mountains. So - I think as long as we can find a way to convince the Heralds afterward, it'll be all right.: 

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:Could you send them Leareth's messenger?:

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:...That does seem like it should be more convincing than a letter. And she was expecting to be sent to Haven in the first place, so I'm pretty sure she would agree to it.: He's going to feel terrible if he gets Leareth's messenger killed via something going wrong in Haven, but - probably still worth it, if it gets Randi to be unsure enough to wait. 

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:The kyree can probably bring her to Waymeet too. Though I - don't know what the odds are that one of Leareth's people showing up with a giant Mindspeaking wolf is going to make someone panic just as much as a Gate would. I think probably no one in Waymeet is cleared to know about the kyree, so they wouldn't know that they're on our side.: 

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Vanyel grits his teeth. 

:I think I should probably go. They'll recognize me: everyone knows his face because of the stupid songs, even if they've never met him, maybe that can finally be a good thing, :and hopefully someone can check that I'm not under compulsions before I leave. I'm not delighted about leaving you here, but - the prophecy does kind of make it seem like we have more to worry about from our own side panicking than from Leareth.: 

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:Should I finish the quinzee if there's a risk the heat spell won't hold in your absence?:

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:I should be able to hold it - I actually know a better one, from White Winds - but having a backup is probably good.: The weather on the other side of the mage-barrier added to his weather-barrier as a wind-and-snow-block looks horrific. Jisa is taking Stef's word for it that the kyree can travel fine in this and apparently even bring people with them, but wow she's glad she's not going to be one of them. 

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Should he wait for two-way communication with Leareth before sending the messenger away? It's possible Leareth's nalaar can't actually get here through a blizzard, and she's already used her message-artifact to convey that they want to talk. 

...It should be all right. He's not going to let anything happen to her, and Jisa can receive messages as well. 

 

 

He's going to actually run the idea by her while they wait for the kyree, how about that. 

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That sounds terrifying, of course, but she agreed to this mission and knows it might be the most important thing she ever does, and it does - feel more like accomplishing something - to go be interrogated in Haven rather than spending the rest of the night parked behind a weather-barrier being left out a Mindspeech conversation and trying not to stare at Herald Vanyel. 

Also she agreed to do anything he asks for, so of course she's going to say yes. 

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:All right, we'll go once the kyree get here.: Hopefully they are on their way. If it turns out that Stef's talisman doesn't even work, they're going to have to try the Gate way after all. 

He spent some time already poking at the wards on the undergrounds records cache while they were waiting for Jisa, but he didn't get everything down and it's going to work better as a backup refuge from the weather if they can safely go in. 

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Jisa will go ahead and cast the summoning spell to give a message to an elemental. Probably they don't need to but what if there's some kind of complication in Waymeet and it takes ages for them to decide to pass on a letter and in the meantime someone notices she's gone without having explained herself and panics. 

(...In hindsight there might be some downside to having gone without explaining herself.) 

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Stef will play some more music to keep himself amused. 

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Blai will duck in and out of the weather barrier to finish the quinzee, trying to get it big enough to fit all the humans who are planning to stay even if there's nothing doing for the quadrupeds.

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It's really pretty unpleasant outside the weather-barrier but if he's only spending short periods outside it then he should be fine. 

 

 

...This is also the point where Need jumps into a conversation with Vanyel and Jisa – and, to Vanyel's surprise, starts arguing quite vociferously that she ought to accompany Feniss to Haven rather than staying with Jisa. Feniss isn't Gifted and isn't trained to fight, she points out, and - her purpose has always been to defend women who couldn't otherwise defend themselves. Jisa is an unusual bearer in that respect, especially that she's now a mage; really the only gap Need fills is Healing, which Blai is available for. Feniss was sent without a weapon, of course, but surely the Heralds can't complain about Need, who is an ally of Valdemar in her own right. 

She's being cagey about whether she's also getting a pull back to Haven, but she must be. 

Vanyel is a little hesitant - it's possible that Need's Foresight pulls are directly populated by a god, not necessarily even the goddess who originally made her - but he actually can't think how one could possibly push Need into harming a woman. Maybe she could be pushed into defending Feniss in a way that spooked Valdemar? But it could also go badly if something happens to Feniss in Haven and a series of the right coincidences convince Leareth that Vanyel was in on it, or something. So, sure, as long as whoever he talks to in Waymeet is on board with it, that makes sense. 

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After almost a candlemark, the kyree do turn up! Aroon is accompanied by half a dozen other scouts. They look fairly terrifying, padding out of the darkness into the radius of Vanyel's mage-light. 

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They look kind of like somebody's gigantified animal companion but that's not not terrifying. However, nobody asked! Blai nods politely to the dire wolves!

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:Singer.: The Mindspeech overtones are relieved and also very confused. :What brings you here? Miles from the nearest town, in the midst of this storm -: 

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"It's a really long story. But, er, we need a favor. Urgently - Van can explain on the way - but we need you to bring him and this woman to Waymeet. Can you do that?" 

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:Your need is that great? It will be much more comfortable to travel after the storm is over.: 

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:It's urgent: Vanyel uses Mindspeech so that Blai will be included as well. :We think someone is - manipulating us into a war. I can explain on the way but - if it's safe to go now then I do think it's that urgent. It's fine if we're uncomfortable.: 

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A long pause. Aroon gives Stef a look. 

 

:- We will take you to Waymeet, but we do want an explanation.: 

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That's fine, Vanyel is happy to explain, can they just go

 

:Jisa, I got most of the wards down - here's the instructions Feniss left, I got up until here - if there's a problem and you need to go in, it shouldn't take more than thirty seconds to do the rest. ...I don't know how long I'll be gone but if Yfandes covered the distance one way in a candlemark, probably before morning? Yfandes will stay with you, she won't be able to keep up in all this snow - I think she should be able to reach me with Mindspeech if anything does happen. Or if you need to respond to a message from Leareth.: 

And they'll go. 

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Stef hates winter but inside Jisa's White Winds version of a weather-barrier is actually quite nice. He'll keep playing music. 

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It's going to be a really long night and Jisa doesn't want to go to sleep while she's the only mage here. And Enara is being...weird...so Jisa doesn't want to talk to her just to give her something to do. 

 

...She'll ask Blai about the game he's playing? 

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The Companions are huddled up a little ways off, having some kind of very intense conversation. 

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Once the quinzee is built (in fits and starts so he can re-warm his hands, now that he's no longer got Endure Elements) he'll be more than happy to teach Jisa chess!

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Jisa picks it up quickly! 

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About a candlemark passes with approximately nothing happening, except for Yfandes reporting a couple of times that she can still reach Vanyel and he's fine. 

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(Well. For SOME DEFINITION of fine! He should have done a Gate. A Gate would have been less unpleasant than this probably even if he got blasted. He and Feniss are strapped to a sled - because they would otherwise definitely fall off - being pulled by a team of kyree in an absolutely terrifying manner, dodging trees while being mostly unable to see anything more than a yard or two ahead, and he's never felt this motion-sick in his life.

- everything in the plan so far is going fine, though. Feniss actually seems to be having fun.) 

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About ten minutes after the Companions break out of their huddle and Yfandes updates them that Vanyel is two-thirds of the way to Waymeet -

 

 

- a lightning bolt (a very unlikely and unlucky one, given that it's a winter snowstorm) implausibly strikes a particularly dry and flammable enormous dead pine tree, which bursts into flame and comes crashing down toward the weather barrier. 

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Vanyel is an unreasonably powerful Adept who spent four years on the Karsite border. He could probably have deflected it with a force-barrier in his sleep. 

 

 

Jisa is...not. She's good, but her combat experience is limited, she's less used to paying attention to the Web (and in any case this isn't a magical attack, which she did put up wards to detect), and she is Adept-potential but there are gradations of that and she's not even as strong as Savil. And also she was playing a fun game which was, you know, in hindsight maybe a bad idea to get distracted by. 

She has time to shriek and accidentally knock over Blai's chess set and desperately try to reinforce the barrier which is only really meant to keep off wind and snow, and be pretty sure it's not going to be enough. 

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The barrier holds up for maybe a quarter of a second - and does lose a lot of its momentum in the process - and then it goes down. 

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Quarter of a second is enough to no longer be actively startled at the moment it crashes down. Protection from Energy (Fire), he's the healer if it spreads. Did it land on anyone.

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Well, it was on track to land basically on top of him, but with warning he might have had time to dodge? 

Jisa wasn't actually in its path, given the arrangement in which they were sitting, and neither were the Companions; the tree has a lot of branches to gouge at them but Companions are fairly sturdy. 

Stef was also directly in the tree's path, though, and was absorbed in playing music and didn't react nearly in time. He was wearing a shield-talisman, and Jisa frantically tried to shield him as well and also dive in his direction, but the main effect is that now Jisa's arm is stuck – though she's not actually hurt, the snow provided some cushioning – and Stef is completely pinned and not moving. 

The fire is going to take a little while to start spreading, most of the undergrowth is buried under snow and the tree trunks themselves are less flammable, but there's already a lot of it. 

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Jisa's closer; he pulls her arm free. If he sets her on her feet does she stay there.

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Yeah, she's able to stand. 

What just - oh no 

:Stef! Stef are you–: She can sense his mind so he's not dead but he's also not answering her. 

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Vanyel is instantly aware that something is wrong but he's also motion-sick enough that summoning Farsight is proving difficult. 

:Yfandes, what -: 

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:I'll get him.: He bashes branches aside to make his way along the downed tree to reach Stef and pull him out.

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:Tree fell on us - lightning strike - Stef's down but he's alive and Blai has Healing, it's going to be all right -: 

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Stef is pretty solidly wedged under the tree and Blai will have to be strong enough to actually lift it a little in order to get him out without injuring him even more in the process. 

(Also, Blai's effortfully built quinzee took the brunt of one of the thicker branches and its roof is no longer intact.

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Blai isn't that strong. He'll wedge his own leg under the tree beside Stef so he doesn't crush him further when he maces the tree apart so he only has to shift the end of it. It's a magic mace and the tree isn't defending itself and he can hit pretty damn hard with it; he can pry up the tree-top.

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In that case he can pull Stef out! 

It takes long enough that a couple of adjacent trees are now also on fire. 

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Jisa is trying to do something about this but she can't create water and the only thing she can think of is to scoop up and fling snow at the flames, which does very little, or - trap it in an airtight mage-barrier? But she's never done that before and would have to figure it out on the fly - she could probably summon a water elemental but none of the local ones will know her and also the summoning takes several minutes, and her head already hurts from trying to desperately yank node-energy to reinforce the shield which didn't even work. 

Vanyel has a trick to put out fires using a weather-barrier somehow but she can't remember how it works and it might rely on Vanyel's level of power...

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Once Stef is free Blai makes sure everybody's within thirty feet and channels. And then he gets on Creating Water. He can do it over a pretty wide area, thought he's limited by gallons per casting no matter how he distributes it.

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Stef scrambles to his feet, wide-eyed. "What's - when did - what happened?" 

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Blai won't be able to understand him. Jisa answers in Mindspeech. :Lightning strike, I think - we're fine but there's a fire...: 

Vanyel's trick involved doing a weather-barrier in reverse, she thinks? Pulling heat out of the fire and distributing it evenly to the outside of the barrier, where it won't be hot enough to start new fires.

Jisa is not nearly strong enough to do a reverse weather-barrier over the entire area that now has fires in it, but she can do a tiny weather barrier around just that tree and put out the flames on its trunk. 

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Oh no oh no oh nooooo he shouldn't have left them - Stef is all right, everyone is all right, but if this keeps happening then Blai will run out of magic and no one else has Healing and it's a long time until dawn - 

 

:You should go down into the records cache: he sends to all of them. :It's shielded - I think we have to assume this was a godintervention and it could keep happening -: 

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:Maybe we should put out the fire first!: It takes a minute or so per tree to get the weather-barrier in place and pull out enough heat to put out the flames, but there aren't that many trees in range to catch fire from the burning branches of the main tree and the bark takes a while to start burning, hopefully Jisa can at least stop the fire from spreading too much while Blai is handling it. 

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Create Water. Create Water. Create Water. Create Water. Create Water.

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Jisa thinks the area on fire is getting smaller rather than bigger but it's definitely going to take a while. 

:I can try to summon a water elemental to help?: she offers. :It'll take a couple of minutes but might be more helpful than getting individual trees...: 

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:You are the best judge of your capacities here. I can do this indefinitely.: Create Water. Create Water. Create Water.

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Jisa definitely cannot keep casting weather-barriers and overpowering them in reverse all night without falling over in exhaustion! She will instead find a spot that's safely not on fire and set up a circle and start a summoning. 

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And eventually some water elementals can be persuaded to help put out the rest of the fire, including some of it that's apparently burning partly underground in the roots of the dead tree. 

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Jisa is sososososooooo tired (the elementals aren't ones she's already on friendly terms with and she felt she needed to give them some pretty significant gifts of mage-energy before asking them to help) and is managing to stay on her feet through sheer willpower but she's not happy about it. 

...she's supposed to follow the instructions to take down the rest of the wards before they can safely go in, aughh... 

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Blai is checking whether all the fire is out by touching all the trees that might be on fire to see if they're warm.

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No more warm trees! The water elementals were pretty thorough. 

 

Also there's no more weather-barrier now and the air is very very cold. 

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:Van is - probably right - we should get behind the shields again. I think Jisa is too tired to manage another weather-barrier. ...She might have trouble getting the rest of the wards neutralized so we can go in safely, I'm not sure if you have anything for that?: 

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:Well, I've still got Protection from Energy up, so if they would specifically set me on any remotely reasonable amount of fire, I will instead be fine. I could send a summon in to trip the traps if they'd do something else?:

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:...I'm not sure we know exactly what they do but summoning something to trip them would be one way to find out! Er, does that - risk killing whatever you summon, is it intelligent...?: It usually wouldn't here, summoned elementals aren't entirely 'here' when summoned and the bodies they inhabit are temporarily constructed from mage-energy, but you can in theory kill trapped vrondi. 

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:Summonses are avatars of the extraplanar creatures and killing the avatar just ends the spell.:

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:All right. I think that's reasonable. Jisa can watch with mage-sight and see if the traps are renewable or will only go off once – most trap-spells only go off once but Leareth might be unusually good at them or something: 

The two Companions have huddled up on either side of Stef, who is shivering hard now despite being dressed reasonably well for the weather. 

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...Jisa is going to sit down heavily on the nearest sittable surface, which turns out to be the burnt sooty soaking-wet trunk of the fallen tree, but she can watch traps go off with mage-sight, sure. 

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Vanyel is doing his best to watch through Yfandes' eyes, which is easier to maintain than Farsight. He's asked Aroon to stop and try to arrange some branches into a threshold shape, so he has a hope of Gating in if something even worse happens, but in his current keyed-up state and without Stef nearby for painblocking he's inevitably going to mess up his mage-channels, and it'll be a mess for getting Feniss safely to Waymeet, and - in general he's just desperately hoping they can make it into the records cache without anything else going disastrously wrong. 

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Blai does not "speak" "Utopian" but he knows a handful of words and he certainly can't summon anything that'd understand Infernal, any more. He summons a big axiomatic dog and points it down into the records cache. "Go," he tells it, and it goes.

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The dog will be zapped with a levinbolt - not powerful enough to kill a regular human but enough to knock most people unconscious - and caught in a paralysis-spell, but that seems to be all the offensive countermeasures still active, and Jisa is fairly sure that they won't fire a second time. She's also pretty sure there are some alarms going off - including ones at a distance, she hadn't known you could do that without a system like the Web - but Leareth knows they're here and explicitly gave them permission to go in and even if he's worried enough to scry the site, he can probably determine pretty quickly why they're going in in a hurry without properly following the instructions. 

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All right great can they go somewhere warmer now. 

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Yes. Blai takes point and in they go. He lights up his holy symbol, it's dark in there.

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Nothing bad happens! 

 

It's somewhat warmer underground, out of the wind, and a lot dryer. It's not exactly warm. Jisa...does not think she can manage even a heat-spell right now. There are probably heat-spell artifacts in here, that entire wall of boxes is radiating magic, but she doesn't know which ones. She's just going to huddle up in her cloak. 

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Getting in involves a trapdoor and a ladder, and the Companions do not fit. To be clear they're fine for now, Companions are hardy and they can huddle together, but they can't really contribute to helping warm the space with their body heat until Jisa can Gate them in. It's a very short-range Gate but if she can't manage a heat-spell without more rest she definitely can't do that. 

Enara will at least send Jisa energy so her reserves are replenished sooner. 

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Does Jisa want a bunch of Guidances, he doesn't know if it helps with this kind of thing but it can't hurt.

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It doesn't help with reserves, but it does help her feel less incredibly out of it, and after a couple of minutes it occurs to her to actually apply her brain to the problem. 

...Can't light a fire in here even if they had firewood, nowhere for the smoke to go, but there might be supplies...maybe blankets...they could at least get bundled up in something that isn't damp...also there might be food in the saddlebags up with the Companions and that will help her recover faster if someone can go get it…someone who isn’t her, or Stef, who’s curled up in a ball against her shivering, he really can’t handle the cold very well…

She exhaustedly conveys this to Blai. Stef is huddling up against her, and he probably weighs like half what Blai does and he really can't take the cold very well. 

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He nods and makes a run up to the Companions to confiscate their bags.

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There's food in the saddlebags! Including some dried fruit, which Vanyel carries specifically because it's easy to eat for quick energy if he's just exhausted himself overusing his Gifts. 

The records cache is very full of stuff! Mostly carefully boxes on shelves filling most of two walls, labeled in a language Blai can't read, but there's a larger crate without anything locking it over there and Jisa can confirm it's not magical other than some low-energy spells that are probably for preservation. 

(If Blai tries to open it, he'll find a bedroll and warm cloak and a couple of blankets, and underneath that a wrapped package of some kind of extremely durable nonperishable bread/cracker, though that looks a lot less appetizing than what's in the saddlebags.)

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Blai does open indicated boxen and gets the others under blankets and dons a cloak and puts food in front of Jisa.

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Jisa is not at all sure she can eat food even if she tries, but she manages three bites and then her body remembers to be ravenous. 

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It does get a little warmer just from their body heat; it's not a big space and it's very well insulated. Their breath is still steaming in the air but it's no longer below freezing.

 

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Blai paces helpfully.

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And eventually Jisa is fed and rested enough that she can manage a short-range Gate! Getting the Companions inside seems more important than a heat-spell, they can radiate a really impressive amount of body heat if they're trying. 

(They get an update from Yfandes: Vanyel is in Waymeet, he thinks everything will work out but it could take a candlemark and he still has to get back, he does report that they're doing weather-working and avoiding overnight Gates and probably the blizzard will clear by morning?) 

...Jisa is going to take a nap after that. She'll be better off in even just a candlemark if she's slept a little, and hopefully Blai can wake her right away if there's another emergency, but she doesn't think there's any possible way she can stay awake until Van is back. 

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Stef isn't sure he can manage to sleep. He's warmed up, and fed, and shortly later BORED. 

 

...Can Yfandes helpfully hold a Mindspeech so he can at least talk to Blai? Great. 

:So how did you end up becoming a cleric of Iomedae? Does it just happen one day, like Gifts awakening?: 

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:Well, She had to select me. I think sometimes the timing is more informative - happens to people in the middle of particularly well-aligned prayer - but I just woke up one day with Her available to give me spells.:

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:Huh! That must have been really weird. Did you just - already know how to use the magic even though you'd never had magic before?: 

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(Yfandes is being a helpful translator, and she's not especially trying to read all of Blai's surface thoughts in the process but she's going to pick up some of it in the process of figuring out which parts he's intending to say to Stef.) 

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:...cleric spells are instinctive but I was not unfamiliar with magic.: HE'S GOING TO HAVE TO FUCKING SAY IT, ISN'T HE. WHY IS THIS HIS LIFE.

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Stef is at all capable of noticing if someone doesn't want to talk about something but isn't calibrated on reading Chelish people. Also he's not Jisa and he doesn't actually care. 

:Huh, why not? Do they make everyone study it just in case or something?: 

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WHY COULDN'T IOMEDAE HAVE GRABBED HIM WHEN HE WAS FIFTEEN SO HE COULD HAVE BEEN TORTURED TO DEATH AND MALEDICTED INSTEAD OF THIS. :I was a cleric of a different god before. He dismissed all His clerics a while ago. A few weeks later Iomedae picked me up.:

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:What, seriously? Does that happen often? Seems kind of rude of Him: 

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....Yfandes is at this point somewhat concerned but, uh, both in the direction of feeling like Stef is accidentally being awful to this poor man, and worrying that maybe they should really know whatever the thing is he's upset about talking about. 

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:Not en masse. It's normal to renounce a cleric who commits misconduct out of line with the ethos of their deity or whose alignment drifts too far out of step. This was - everyone at once. I think He was trying to conserve intervention budget with respect to the treaty that limits how much action gods can take on the material plane.:

(augh augh augh augh augh)

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Ooh that sounds like it could be juicy drama. Stef hadn't even considered the possibility that you could know enough about gods to have gossip about them. 

:Oof. I guess at least it wasn't personal. Did your god lose a fight with the other gods or something?: 

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:He's not mine now.

But yes, I think so.:

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...Okay he is maybe getting the slightest hint that this might possibly be an uncomfortable topic for Blai. Which would, you know, make sense, even if it wasn't really personal. 

Unfortunately he is Stef and not Jisa and this mostly makes him want to poke the topic harder. 

:Do you miss Him?: 

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:No.:

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:Why not? Did He give you worse magic or something?: 

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:- well, yes, actually, but: aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaugh operate openly operate fucking openly what if they decide to just murder him right here and then they all die the next time a local god sends a natural disaster and then there is a war and Leareth ascends as a new FUCKING LAWFUL EVIL GOD. :mostly because He's Evil.:

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Stef actually doesn't see why that's supposed to be embarrassing? He would probably take the deal if an evil god offered him free magic even if Vanyel would be really irritating about it. 

:Oh. Right. Does seem better if you can get magic from a non-evil god. Especially if it's better magic. Was the magic worse because it was only useful for doing evil things or something? I could see that being pretty inconvenient.: 

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All right, this has maaaaaybe gone far enough? 

:Blai, you don't have to talk about this if you don't want to: she sends privately to him, trying to make her mindvoice soothing. :Stef is just being a nosy Bard about it, but I think he's actually being very rude.: 

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:- if it might be material to any decisionmaking I should probably explain,: Blai says, dragging the sentence forth like it's made of lead. :I am commanded to operate openly and it being uncomfortable is not mentioned as an exception to this rule and shouldn't be.:

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:That makes sense.: She pulls Stef back into the link again. :Blai, why don't you explain what you think might be decision-relevant for us to know, in the order you want.: 

And if Stef tries to ask more questions that aren't focused on what's decision-relevant to them, well, she can just not relay them. 

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Stef is definitely being chastised in Mindspeech overtones but he's immune to that. Everyone knows Bards are supposed to be nosy. He would be letting down Bardic if he didn't try to get the story. 

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:I grew up in a country controlled by Hell under the command of Asmodeus, Lawful Evil god of tyranny. They flagged me as a potential cleric in school and I attended seminary and was chosen. I served Him for more than twenty years. I did not renounce Him of my own initiative even after my country was conquered by the forces of Good. I am now Iomedae's but I have done considerable Evil at His command and His hierarchy's command.:

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What do they even teach you in Evil Seminary? 

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theY TEACH YOU HOW TO TORTURE PEOPLE, STEF

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...Yeah no Yfandes is flagging that as not currently decision-relevant and not something she wants to subject Blai to talking about, especially not to Stef of all people. 

 

:Growing up in a country controlled by an evil god sounds - like they might have had a lot of control over your information sources. And also just - dangerous. Did you believe you had the option of renouncing Him first, without that being a disaster for you personally?: 

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:Principally the idea just never entered my head but it did happen that defection was a death sentence and I would have expected to go to Hell.:

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:That seems like a very understandable reason for the idea to never enter your head!: Yfandes hesitates. :We're not - mad at you. I'm glad you told us. I think it was a good idea to tell us now, it could have - come out in a worse way at a different time.: Like if they pinned their whole strategy for ending the war on trusting Blai's magic and then Tran was the one to find out, or something. :It actually seems like - a way you could actually be particularly qualified to know why it would be so bad if Leareth made the wrong kind of god.: 

Pause. 

:I do want to know more about...evil gods in general, I think we - may not have been imagining it right, only knowing the set of gods we have here. But I don't think it's necessarily urgent, if it's unpleasant for you to talk about.: 

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:It doesn't matter if it's unpleasant, it matters if it's important. There are plenty of evil gods - gods of pain, crime, destruction, disease, monsters. The evil afterlives are all characterized by torment impossible to replicate with the living. I'm not sure what else you need to know.:

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:...Wow. I'm suddenly much less convinced that having afterlives is better than the alternative.

 

- wait, you have a god of crime?: 

That's kind of neat actually, if Stef had the option to be offered magic powers by any evil god he would pick that one actually it's probably horrible in some way he's not thinking of because he hadn't realized gods could do that. 

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:Those are very - specific. Compared to our gods. I don't know if any of our gods could be said to be a god of...any particular noun...they sort of have themes but not - it's much harder to figure out what Their goals are and map them to a familiar concept like 'disease' or 'monsters'.: 

 

He's being exactly like Vanyel. Which doesn't mean she isn't going to pay attention to his feelings, because that's stupid, it mostly means that she has to be extra careful to also respect his - dignity, she's not sure what the thing is, but it's important to Vanyel too that nobody is looking at him and thinking his feelings need special care or else will get in the way of the real priorities. 

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:Yes, it's a puzzling thing about your gods. There are some Golarion gods who are mostly gods of a race or something but mostly they have. Nouns.:

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His world's thing seems more puzzling to Yfandes - it's not like people can usually be described as about a noun, even people who are unusually...about a specific thing...are still mostly just. People. Made up of their friends and hopes and dreams, and a lot of basic parts that almost everyone has in common. It's not a useful argument to debate which was is more puzzling, though. 

Aaaaand this is an uncomfortable question but he said that didn't matter and she does actually think the answer might be important? 

:Does it - say much about a person - if a particular god chose them? More than just that they didn't say no to being associated with that god, I mean. Do you have to - care about the same noun as the god does?: 

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:You have to be within one alignment step of the god. I think I'm Lawful Neutral at this time. I'm not sure how strict other aspects of - resonating with them - are, on a mechanical as opposed to pragmatic level, but the pragmatic concerns are substantial, since communication is so expensive; they have every reason to, if possible, choose clerics who will perform the services the god desires to have done in the world under a very light touch. Asmodeus was able to achieve a lot of this by having a mortal hierarchy relay His will; a god with a less organized and domineering church is less able to delegate to it in that way.:

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Yfandes nods. The gesture looks pretty odd on a horse.

:What were the criteria for deciding to send a particular child: she's guessing  he was a child at the time, :to seminary to become a cleric, when your country was ruled by Asmodeus?: Once he was there, it seems like threats alone could have more or less ensured he would cooperate on the pragmatic side. 

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:Seriousness as a proxy for Wisdom - Intelligence can be measured almost directly, with Detect Thoughts, and that was how they flagged wizards, but there was no such thing for Wisdom - and obedience as a proxy for Law.:

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Neither of which is particularly about, well, being the kind of child who would be eager rather than reluctant to do the work of an evil god. She wonders if more serious children actually tend to be...she's not sure the term in Blai's mind means the same thing as what a Valdemaran would mean by "wiser". 

:To what extent are those the same things that matter for being chosen by Iomedae?: 

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:Wisdom is necessary for any cleric of any god, we cast from it. Iomedae can choose Neutral Good priests if She wants to, but Asmodeus can choose Neutral Evil ones, so Law is not formally more important for either. It's probably more important in practice for Her than Him because Her emphasis is on - Law and Good as both reflections of a single unified cooperative principle - while He has some Law-themed interests but is not obviously damaged reputationally by having Neutral Evil servants provided they are not responsible for carrying out His contractual obligations. Iomedae is theologically interested in not using people against their own interests and I expect this is somewhat limiting to her selection but she has more - active voluntarism - to work with, than Asmodeus, though I did not expect to be selected myself and was not trying for it.:

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So it sounds like he was selected on the basis of generically being a good candidate to bear a god's magic (at least for a Lawful god) and - it seems like the rest doesn't say as much about him.

It says something about him, Yfandes can't imagine, say, Jisa going along with it, but - they selected him for obedience on purpose, and in most circumstances that wouldn't be an evil trait to have. 

Jisa growing up in a place like that would probably just have gotten herself killed. 

:I'm glad you had a way out: she sends. :Even if you didn't find it on your own. ...I imagine you wouldn't go back, even if Iomedae dropped you and Asmodeus offered you spells again?: 

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:Well, She wouldn't mean for me to do that. It's not at all out of character for Asmodeus to abandon a tool that is no longer worthwhile to Him but if I ever come by the opinion that She has no further use for me rather than having some kind of budgetary problem I am more likely to be enchanted than correct.:

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He thinks about gods in such a bizarre way. Yfandes still doesn't think she's quite pinned it down. 

:I think that's all that seems important to know now? Obviously we would want to know a lot more - and probably ask people other than you - if we ever were in a position to do anything in your world, but we're not. I don't think this is reason to - trust you less, when you're offering to help us and we need that help desperately.: 

Another pause. 

:...What noun is Iomedae the god of?: 

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:Triage. And victory against evil.:

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That seems to be all Yfandes wants to ask about right now, though if Blai seems to want to talk more, she's listening.

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Stef feels like he's extracted all the juicy gossip he can for now, or at least everything that Yfandes is willing to participate in. He's going to get some sleep after all. 

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Guidance. Guidance. Guidance.

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Eventually Yfandes relays that Vanyel is on his way back. The weather is somewhat better but it'll probably still be another couple of candlemarks; she thinks he'll get back just before dawn. (And presumably be exhausted, but she can wake Jisa at that point so Van can get some sleep.) 

:It's all right if you want to sleep some: she tells Blai. :I'm perfectly capable of keeping watch.: Probably moreso than he is; neither of them has mage-sight but she's at least a Thoughtsenser, and has the usual touch of Foresight that Companions do. :I can wake you ten minutes before dawn again if you need time to think about the spells you're asking for today.: She can't see the sky from here, obviously, but Companions tend to have a very accurate internal sense of time. 

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:It would be a little safer to pick them now so that if something comes up and I am awoken by dawn's arrival instead I'm not caught guessing. I imagine I want a Detect Law, is there anything else in particular?:

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:I guess you get the healing either way and you can convert more of your magic into healing in an emergency? The spell that makes you - immune to weather, or whatever it is - would be pretty nice to have, at least for the humans, Enara and I will be fine. And - do you have a way to do shields? More generally than just against fire, I mean. It doesn't seem impossible we'll run into more, er, trouble. If it's a god nudging us to just get really unlucky, I could imagine - I don't know, earthquake, landslide, wild animals, maybe running into bandits...: 

Pause. 

:I don't know if this should be a priority, but if you have room for it, and we expect you to be meeting with Leareth anyway, the prophecy spell on him might be interesting.: 

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:I have a lot of protective spells I could prepare but they are generally shorter duration and much more specific than the shields mages do, and I can't get them up as quickly. Four Endure Elements, a Minor Prophecy, maybe a Snow Shape, maybe an Owl's Wisdom, and I'll do the alignment check by Aura Sight, it's a bit more informative.:

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:Owl's Wisdom is for - thinking better? That seems like it could be a very good idea. If we're lucky we'll have - time to go somewhere safe and think and make our next decisions - but I don't know if we're going to be lucky.: 

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:I could do two of those and lose the Snow Shape, I'm probably thinking about Snow Shape because if I'd had it today I would have used it.:

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:It would definitely have been useful today but it wasn't critical that you didn't have it or anything. I think - being able to think about this clearly is probably more important.: 

Yfandes has an eidetic memory and can remember the whole list he decided on and remind him in the morning in case he wakes up groggy after his two and a half candlemarks of sleep. And he should really probably try to sleep now before it turns into even less sleep than that. 

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She's not wrong. He wads up some of the cloak to rest his head on and lies down and sleeps.

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The storm blows itself out a candlemark before dawn. The kyree pulling Vanyel are able to make somewhat faster progress. 

Twenty minutes later, just before Vanyel reaches the records cache, one of the nalaar catches up with him with a letter. 

 

If Blai is a light enough sleeper, he'll probably be woken by an extremely exhausted Vanyel letting himself into the records cache. He's been warned that everyone is sleeping and is trying to be quiet, but after all the sled-riding today he can barely walk in a straight line. 

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Blai is in fact a pretty light sleeper, but after a moment to refresh his light and see it's just Vanyel all he's going to do about it is ask :Channel?: and if declined roll over and resume sleeping.

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Vanyel will read the letter from Leareth - all it says is that he received the message from Feniss, is still committed to negotiations and will not operate against Valdemar in the meantime, and Vanyel can send a reply with the nalaar. 

He's torn on whether to wait for Blai to have prepared spells for the morning and discuss next steps before he responds, but - there are some things that are time-sensitive to convey to Leareth. Like Iftel's army, and he should explain that they sent the messenger to Haven even though prooooobably Leareth was able to observe this - he's got to have Farseers watching Waymeet - and can infer why. 

He writes up a letter using the paper in his saddlebags, tells Yfandes to wake him when Blai is done preparing spells, and sends it and then curls up for a very brief nap. 

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Blai wakes with the dawn. He wraps his hand around his holy symbol but doesn't need to sit up or anything, or even open his eyes, to pray. Maybe he'll get to go back to sleep after but maybe they're in a terrible hurry, he doesn't know.

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If Vanyel were awake, he would probably be inclined to treat it as a terrible hurry and wake everyone else for a meeting. 

...This is likely to take days to play out, though, and they're all underslept. Yfandes is making an executive decision to not wake Vanyel, and let Blai get some more sleep. She'll wake them all at noon or if a reply comes from Leareth, whichever happens first. 

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No reply by noon. It probably takes the nalaar a while to get over the mountains even in good weather. 

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Then she'll nudge everyone awake at noon. It's not quite the equivalent of a full night's sleep for everyone, especially not Vanyel, but hopefully they can be a little better rested and more clearheaded for whatever happens today. 

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Okay, he's up, what's the plan.

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:We need to arrange where to actually have you meet Leareth. And I suppose how to get there, though hopefully the kyree can do it.: They're hanging around outside the records cache, apparently not at all bothered by the weather. :I think we want somewhere outside the Web - if only so no one gets spooked by a Web-alarm - and the trouble with the pass is that apparently if we meet there we get attacked by gryphons. I think I would rather we're the ones to propose a place, but I don't actually know any good places north of Valdemar's official border.: 

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:I mean, if we all have Endure Elements and we assume Leareth can take care of himself, we don't have to meet somewhere that provides shelter. Could just randomly select a spot on the map and send it to him.: 

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:I'm a little worried that there would be an opportunity to just - not actually manage to find each other. Especially if we're splitting up. It just feels like the sort of plan that has a lot of opportunities for bad luck.: 

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:Hot Springs Clan is north of the border. I think I could persuade them to host. According to the prophecy they end up involved anyway. And they're in a cave system, I think gryphons would have a lot of trouble attacking us there.: 

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:I have four Endure Elements prepared.:

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:That gets the humans, now that Feniss isn't with us, and I think the Companions will be all right for a trip. Stef, why don't you ask the kyree if they're either willing to have Leareth come to their caves - er, we should maybe specify conditions, like whether he can bring anyone with him? - or at least whether they have any other ideas for landmarks.: 

Sigh. :I really want to arrange this today, but I already sent the nalaar back with a letter telling him about the gryphons and explaining why we sent Feniss to Haven. I think it can probably find us even if we're on the move but I'm not totally sure of that - I was nearly back here when it caught up to me this morning. And there aren't that many candlemarks of daylight left, at this time of year.: 

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:I'll ask Aroon.: 

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The kyree are certainly willing to host their party in the caves, which Aroon can promise are very well shielded! Their shaman, Hyrryl, should also be able to cloak them on the way in, so no one - whether gryphons or Leareth - will know where to find them. 

Even given the prophecy, they would rather not invite Leareth directly to their home, but they can propose a different set of caves ten miles away for Blai and/or whoever else is going as well to meet Leareth. If Leareth has good maps of the area, which it seems like he ought to, he should be able to find them without difficulty. 

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They should wait here until they can send another message, then; presumably Leareth's messenger birds also won't be able to find them once they head to the Hot Spring Clan caves. Though it does seem like a good idea to be somewhere less exposed than this, to avoid gryphons and also have more backup if the gods send an earthquake or something next. 

Vanyel will work on copying out a map that Aroon is relaying to him in Mindspeech so he can mark where the caves apparently are. They should probably also pick and mark out a place where they can leave or pick up messages? 

Does Blai have any suggestions for what else they should make sure to communicate in this letter? 

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Maybe a duplicate of what was in the last one, in case it went astray.

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That's a good idea. And Vanyel will make sure he has both maps and descriptions for the proposed meeting location and the message-drop location and that this is really definitely clear. 

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The nalaar is back a couple of candlemarks after noon and will cooperatively carry off a letter. 

(Message response times should probably be a bit faster once they're thirty miles further north in the foothills of the Ice Wall Mountains.) 

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...Does one of the kyree mind staying here with a full second copy of the message? Just in case the nalaar gets struck by lightning or something and Leareth has no idea where to send further messages? 

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They can do that. 

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Then probably it makes sense to go now, so they can hopefully reach the Hot Spring Clan caves before nightfall. 

 

Can Blai cast his Endure Elements on them? 

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Sure can.

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Off they go. 

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Travel by kyree sled is significantly more comfortable in daylight, with Endure Elements, and when they're in less of a hurry (and need to move slowly enough for the Companions to keep up; Stef's horse doesn't have a hope and one of the kyree will accompany her separately.) 

Yfandes takes the opportunity to fill Vanyel in on the conversation with Blai about his former god.

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Vanyel...considers bringing it up again and decides that that sounds agonizing for both of them and he'll trust Yfandes to have asked all the sensible questions. His feeling is definitely mostly 'the poor man' and he doesn't think they ought to be worried about Blai betraying them. 

...He'll maybe occasionally read Blai's mind, though. 

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What if the kyree are going to eat them. They seem lovely but lots of creatures seem lovely and then also eat people sometimes probably. What if they go in a cave, these interventionist yet uncommunicative gods send an earthquake, and then it falls on their heads and they all die. What if he falls off the sled and they can't find him because he doesn't have his coat which was designed to be strikingly visible in the snow. What if something dispels all their Endure Elementses and they freeze. What if Leareth becomes and/or creates an evil god and turns Valdemar into the next Nidal or something. What if he and the elementals missed a spot, with the fire, and it's smoldering and will turn this whole landscape to char and devastation. What if he needs his armor and doesn't have it. What if they have more questions about Asmodeus and he has to answer them because he's not allowed to lie and they want to know all about seminary and how he used to punish people by playing chess with them. What if Iomedae hates chess and he should not have taught Jisa to play. What if the gryphons are actually great at locating people in caves and they have bulette friends or something.

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...Vanyel continues to think that those are not the thoughts of a man who's one tempting (or threatening) situation away from betraying them. Blai is apparently someone who will - go along with atrocities if in an environment where doing otherwise would involve disobeying orders and putting himself in danger - but Vanyel suspects that people who aren't like that are the exception. 

He goes back to trying not to think about his stomach. 

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They reach the caves after nightfall, but nothing bad happens in the meantime, including the kyree threatening to eat anyone. 

The caves are - beautiful, inside, with floating mage-lights in several different colors and passages with walls thin enough for light to shine through the rock. There are also totally hot springs. 

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Winter is barely awful at all with Endure Elements but Stef is still delighted to go in the hot springs! 

 

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There's a nice cave area set aside for the Companions lined with plenty of hay, which Yfandes thinks is very thoughtful. 

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There are also rooms (well, caves) set aside for each of the humans! They are beds made up for them - well, nests of furs, mainly - and the kyree are happy to offer them food though it's mostly meat in broth with some mushrooms. 

Aroon confirms that Hyrryl, their shaman, is watching the message-drop spot they selected from a distance. They haven't seen any new messages yet. 

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So...they wait, then? 

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Where did they get hay out here?? What if the mushrooms are poisonous. He doesn't have Detect Poison today. They could be fine for dire wolves and not for humans.

Yes, they wait.

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Stef eats the mushrooms and does not die! 

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They don't get a return message in the next several candlemarks, possibly because the nalaar can't find the relevant landmarks in the dark? 

 

...At this point it seems like they are probably not going to succeed at meeting today?  And should maybe sleep and expect a response in the morning. Vanyel isn't delighted about things dragging out but scrambling to meet in the middle of the night also seems like it could lead to problems. On the bright side, they probably don't need Endure Elements for everyone if some of them can stay here, so Blai will have more spell slots available for emergencies. 

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They shouldn't just waste Blai's spells today though! ...Well, probably they should wait until a bit before dawn, in case Leareth does want to scramble to meet in the middle of the night, but if that doesn't happen they might as well use them! Jisa wants to know her alignment

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Sure, he can do an Aura Sight here and now, he's not sure how exactly it will assess whether people are powerful enough to have an aura in a world where magic doesn't have circles but that's useful to know too. He can also do another Prophecy!

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There are still at least nine candlemarks to go until the next dawn - it gets dark very early around Midwinter - and Leareth might be able to get a message to them at midnight or something and want to arrange a meeting. Vanyel is inclined to say they go to bed early, rely on the Companions having a very accurate time sense to wake them a candlemark before dawn or so, and at that point they might as well use Blai's spells, since he'll be asking for fresh ones anyway. 

(The Owl's Wisdom spell might help Jisa figure out what she hasn't thought of yet for the binding oath spell she apparently invents? Though Vanyel is still hoping they can think of a way to convince Randi that doesn't involve Jisa having to be there.) 

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That sounds fine to Blai. He will go ahead and sleep in a furheap. Are these the skins of dead dire wolves? Would it be Evil if they were or just a weird custom? They're warm, anyway.

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Vanyel goes to sleep as well, cuddling with Stef. 

 

 

...At which point, to his genuine surprise, they find themselves in the ice dream. 

It is one of the more redundant dreams they've ever had. But he introduces Stef, because why not (and Stef will be mad at him if sent to ride away in the forest again this time), and is able to confirm that Leareth did receive his last letter, is on board with the plan, and was indeed not able to reply until morning because the nalaar can hone in on a mage-artifact beacon or find a place they've been before in the dark but cannot follow visual instructions to find a particular landmark they've never visited before. 

When Yfandes wakes all of them, he can update Blai and Jisa on this. 

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:...So it was blocked before but it wasn't either of you, and now you're having it again? Huh.: 

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:Were you under any kind of: they say "shield" here not "abjuration" :shield effect that might have accidentally affected it?:

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:Not a regular shield - and that’s never interfered before, and we’re a lot more shielded here! …But we were still in the Web, before, and aren’t now.: He keeps finding himself poking at the unexpected emptiness in the back of his head, like a loose tooth. :It’s never been a problem, before, but - maybe it lets the Star-Eyed Goddess interfere? Since the entire Web is anchored on a Heartstone now.:

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:That seems... bad... if She's hostile.:

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:It's probably not good, no.: In hindsight how much has this been a thought he avoided because he made the Web-improvements and created the Heartstone and it's always been something he was proud of and it hurts that maybe it was a mistake. 

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:I don't think it ought to let Her do - arbitrary things - but I suppose if She has influence throughout the Web, it's not impossible She could fake Web-alarms. And - Companions have a kind of background Foresight, we get hunches - if Van's dream was vulnerable to interference, She can probably also influence that.: 

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:...well, She probably can't affect my prophecy, if you'd like me to cast that now before dawn.:

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:We should do that. On...me, I guess?: 

He's tempted to say it should be on Stef, so he can find out if Stef is going to be in any danger and because he's not sure he actually wants to know if this still ends like it was always going to, with his Final Strike all information is worth having. 

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:I'll do that and then follow up with the Owls' for interpreting it, how about.: "Minor Prophecy."

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Vanyel, looking mildly singed, is sprinting through what's recognizably a hallway in the Palace, not the exact same one that Blai walked down with Savil to reach the Gate-terminus room but it must be in the same building. 

His expression is focused, controlled desperation. 

 

He reaches a door, a fancy one with a stone archway, and there's a shimmering shield over it and he can't get through. (There's someone in the room, along with - something bright and somehow alive-looking on a stone pedestal - but through the shields it's impossible to see much detail of either.) 

 

Vanyel stops.

His face goes blank in the way a lot of the Heralds do when they're Mindspeaking - there's the sense that a conversation is emphatically not going well and then - 

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Time for the backup plan, then. 

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:Uh, in this prophecy, you're - I think in the Palace. There's somebody behind a shield you can't get through, in a room with something - shimmery, crystalline maybe, on a pedestal - and then I think you have some kind of telepathic conversation and it seems like it goes poorly and then you explode.:

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:You're kidding.: 

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:That's the Heartstone.:

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:Great! Now we know that you should absolutely not go to Haven or you'll end up having to Final Strike the Heartstone! Which in case you forgot is in the MIDDLE OF HAVEN and you'd probably take out half the city!: 

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:I mean. Maybe the alternative was - something worse - there is a nondestructive or at least less destructive way to shut down a Heartstone but I would need to touch it and I - guess someone was preventing that - that said I can't think why I would fall back on a Final Strike, seems like even if it worked it would - just do the same thing that happened in k'Treva...: 

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:Is there a way to guard the Heartstone in such a way that you'd be able to non-explosively access it? I couldn't tell - who exactly - was shielding you out, but maybe the ability to do that at all narrows it down?:

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:It’s got to be someone keyed to the Heartstone, so unless they start adding every mage who volunteers to help with a war - which isn’t impossible, actually, if they’re desperate - but if they don’t, that’s just the active Herald-Mages and - Brightstar. And - even if i was tired and cut off from it while they were drawing on it, it’d still have to be a strong Adept for them to hold a shield I couldn’t get through. So - Savil or Brightstar.:

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:I would probably be strong enough but I can’t think what would possibly get me to do that.:

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:Brightstar being the one who belongs to the Star-Eyed?:

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:Yes.: 

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:I can imagine him - or Savil, honestly - panicking if you were marching in trying to shut down the Heartstone! It would take down half the wards on the entire Kingdom - I don't think the vrondi can tie in without a Heartstone, and all the more sophisticated wards are relying on it. If you - thought it was an emergency - and hadn't actually talked it through with the Senior Circle to convince them the war wasn't going to happen - assuming that even ends up being true, I don't think we're at the point yet where negotiations are guaranteed to work -: 

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Vanyel rubs his eyes. :I can definitely imagine either of them, but especially Brightstar, trying to stop me if I was going in to kill the Heartstone without explaining myself. What I can't imagine a conversation about it breaking down to the point that I call a Final Strike on Haven instead!: 

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:I mean. If he was about to make it do whatever happened in k'Treva?: 

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Brightstar wouldn't do that. He wouldn't

 

...Blai is going to give him that skeptical look again if Vanyel says that out loud like it's an actual argument. 

:I - suppose it's possible I could end up thinking a Final Strike would kill him without actually destabilizing the Heartstone. They can soak up a lot, a normal Adept's Final Strike would be fine. I haven't - run the numbers - on whether the Haven Heartstone could take my Final Strike, and it's a bloody serious risk to take, but - maybe.: 

 

 

...He has the feeling he's forgetting something. Something to do with running numbers. It's not quite coming to him though. 

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:We think k'Treva had protections on theirs, right? So one person couldn't set it off singlehandedly? Do we...?: 

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:Unless Savil thought to set that up but didn't think to tell me about it, then, er, no. I don't think so.: 

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:Who wants an Owl's?:

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:I think Van should get it.: He has the best chance of figuring out how they can do something now to prevent their theory from happening. 

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:What does it do, exactly?: 

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:It makes you Wiser - quite a bit Wiser, by about as much as the difference between an average person and me - for about five minutes.:

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Nod. :That does sound like it could be useful.: It also feels like a lot of pressure but he can cope. :All right.:

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"Owl's Wisdom," and a tap to the back of Vanyel's hand.

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It feels very odd, and not entirely in a comfortable way. Vanyel doesn't exactly feel cleverer, he doesn't think, and he's not exactly more awake or more focused, but there's more...something...

He should probably not waste it thinking about what it feels like. What are the important questions here? 

 

They're going to meet with Leareth. Have they taken the right precautions - "right" precautions depends against what, right - they're not not worried about Leareth betraying them but they're less worried, now, even though they don't actually have the confirmation from Blai's spell yet - 

Because of the first prophecy-spell vision, which showed Vanyel apparently being willing not just to go meet Leareth face to face, but to bring Jisa with him. And showed it going wrong, but not because of anything Leareth did. Unless Leareth arranged the gryphon attack. That doesn't make any sense, though, unless the gryphons weren't even Ifteli and Leareth actually has his own gryphons and never mentioned and now that he knows about Iftel he realized he could fake an attack from them - 

- no, that doesn't make sense, because they didn't know to warn Leareth until after the vision - unless the vision and future were already taking into account that they would know and everything they would do, but Blai didn't think it worked that way - 

Thinking about prophecy interweaving with their decisions is making his head hurt even with the spell on him, apparently. 

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Focus. 

They're less worried that Leareth isn't negotiating in good faith because of the prophecy, but not just that. Now that they're almost certain he wasn't responsible for k'Treva (and with the spell in place, Vanyel is if anything more sure of that), he's more inclined to agree with his previous assessment of Leareth's character. Ruthless, willing to commit atrocities, but - not inclined to lie to Vanyel's face about it. And he sent Blai back. 

And then as soon as they started trying to negotiate in earnest, a lightning strike started a fire. That really couldn't have been Leareth, or at least he can't think how; you can send storms with mage-work from a distance, but not direct individual lightning bolts without a local magical signature, which would have pinged the Web. 

 

So...whatever is happening in Haven in the second vision, it's probably not Leareth's fault. 

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Could it be Leareth's fault, setting aside the rest? He could have...put a compulsion on Vanyel? To Gate back to Haven and shut down their defenses so he could invade and if stopped from this, Final Strike to take out Valdemar's government? 

That doesn't make any sense with the first prophecy though, where he was about to swear a binding magical oath not to betray them! Is it because the oath got interrupted by gryphons. Did Leareth think that was Vanyel's fault. 

 

...are they about to do something different because of the first prophecy, that actually ends up making everything much worse and convincing Leareth they betrayed him?  

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He should mention that as a possibility once the spell ends but it really feels like it's stretching. 

 

Earlier it felt like there was something he was forgetting - 

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...the math would work...

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However, it's possibly an even stupider plan than just Final Striking in the middle of Haven, which is really saying something. 

 

The spell ends. 

 

- oh no he didn't actually finish thinking about whether their precautions against godinterference are enough. They should ask Leareth for advice on that, probably, it's more likely to be what matters and he's an expert. 

He feels slightly discombobulated from cramming that many thoughts into a small number of minutes, but will do his best to relay a summary of the new thoughts he had to the others. 

 

:- and Leareth and I talked once about using a Heartstone as a - sort of initial container for the first stage of making a god. It was hypothetical, he didn't expect to have one, it was just an example for explaining some of the process. And I, er. Did the math once on the power output of my Final Strike and I could, technically, power the first stage - it's not that high a fraction of the total, it would be a few hundred people worth of blood-magic or realistically he could probably power it some other way, making a baby god strong enough quickly enough to avoid getting eaten by the others is apparently the hard part.

 ...Anyway, I...guess...doing that would incidentally result in taking over the Heartstone? So we could keep our defenses without having the Star-Eyed interfering? But I only actually know a fraction of how to do it and it seems like an incredibly bad idea to try when I don't know what I'm doing! So this doesn't really leave me less confused about what I would've been - will be? - thinking.: 

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:I have another one of those if another five minutes would get you there.:

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:I...have a feeling I might just not know all the pieces I would need to? It felt like - trying to finish a puzzle but not actually having enough of the pieces for it to hold together yet: Also that was exhausting and he doesn't really want to do it again immediately. :Might make more sense for someone else to try it.: 

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ME ME ME ME ME

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Glance around. :Probably Jisa, unless you feel like you might be able to make sense of it with more wisdom, but - you have strictly less context than we do on a lot of the pieces that could be missing.: 

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YES Jisa wants to be wiser!!! Even if it's only for five minutes!!!! 

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:I'd mostly cast it on myself if I expected to need to be a little more likely to land a spell on someone who was resisting, it does help me think but context matters a lot.: He casts it again and offers Jisa his hand.

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Whoa. 

 

 

...Okay that's not entirely a comfortable experience and reminds her of the feeling she has when she knows someone - usually Enara, or her mother - is about to not actually say "I told you so" but give her the look. 

Jisa will do some very focused thinking for five minutes, rather than getting distracted by the first thing she immediately thought of. 

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:Right! I think we should get you to try your Healing on the King, we really should have thought of that when you were still in Haven, but he - has a wasting disease and he might only have a few months left, one of our Foreseers saw him dying before next autumn. I think I hadn't been thinking about that because it was uncomfortable, but - it would be easier to get through all of this if he's healthy. I don't know if your spell can do that but maybe it can get far enough that our Healers can help him?:

Pause for breath.

:Also I think I might know how to make the oath work now! But it...sort of...maybe would have to involve blood-magic? On yourself? To make a power linkage that no one can dispel from the outside. I think you could also make two lifebonded people swear a binding oath to each other and power it off energy flow across the lifebond, but that doesn't help us, it was just what got me thinking.

- oh and I had an idea about how to find Leareth's immortality setup in the Void, but I don't think we should actually do that, it would scare him.: 

 

That was really fun actually! Once she realized she could think about inventing magic and not about decisions in her personal life! 

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:I'm happy to try healing the King next time I'm in Haven assuming nothing and no one is... exploding at the time. I don't know what a lifebond is. I am unclear on what purpose magically binding oaths between... anyone... serves, as I am accustomed to the situation being such that if you solve the problem where someone might violate their mere solemn promise, you're left with the problem where you cannot specify the promise well enough to control someone clever at wordplay, and if you solve the problem where someone wants to do clever wordplay to evade your agreement, too, then you have solved basically all of the problems you had to begin with.:

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:Possibly it's not actually important if you can just tell if someone is the sort of person who will keep their solemn promises, we can't do that. Though we also need to persuade the rest of the Heralds your magic does that. Mostly it was bothering me that it came up in the other prophecy you did but I still couldn't think how it was possible. 

Lifebonds are a way people can be soulbonded – sort of like Companions with Heralds, but even moreso. ...I'm lifebonded to Randi's heir and in hindsight I plausibly shouldn't have come north given what I knew at the time because he would - take it really badly - if anything happened to me, and I had a realization that I wasn't thinking about it because I can't stand it when someone gets to tell me I'm not allowed to do something because it's too dangerous.: You would think that being able to use Mindhealing Sight on yourself would mean you had ALREADY HAD ALL THE IMPORTANT REALIZATIONS but apparently not. :Though with what we know now, I think it's actually better that I'm here.: 

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:If you need to do a magically binding oath so that it's legible to the leadership in Haven that Leareth is committed then I suppose that's a fair enough reason, though they'd be counting on unfamiliar experimental magic instead of unfamiliar offworld magic and it's not a clear win to me.

Did we want me to do the Aura Sight, before dawn?:

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Yes!!!!!!!

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:I guess it would be interesting.: What if he reads evil though. Stef thinks he probably doesn't, Blai makes it sound like actually evil people in his world are worse than just...not actually a good person, which he definitely isn't. 

...What if Van reads evil because of all the people he killed on the Karsite border. He would be so upset about it!

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If Stef does not voice these thoughts then they will not stop Blai from casting his spell and looking at everybody here!

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Stef doesn't ping as anything. 

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Neutral Good. 

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Also Neutral Good. 

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Lawful Good. 

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Chaotic Good. 

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"No aura - that can mean neutral or just not powerful enough - you're both Neutral Good - you're Lawful Good - you're Chaotic Good."

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:What does that...mean...? I don't think I would break solemn promises.: She hates making solemn promises but that's different. 

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:I haven't met a lot of Chaotic Good people and have not known you very long.:

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Is that a polite way of saying he doesn't trust her anymore it would be DEEPLY INAPPROPRIATE AS A MINDHEALER to read his mind to figure out if he's silently judging her. Completely different from reading his mind because Leareth might have gotten to him or they found out he used to work for an evil god. Jisa has PRINCIPLES, whatever his stupid spell has to say about it

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So apparently setting thousands of Karsites on fire doesn't make you read evil. 

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Is that all of Blai's spells that they needed to use up before dawn, then? Stef needs to pee. 

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Yes, that's everything. Blai starts praying in advance of actual dawn for lack of other diversions.

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Vanyel sits down and has an internal debate over whether they should tell Leareth about a confusing prophecy that involves Final Striking the Heartstone in Haven possibly to run the first-stage god-creation, when the actual explanation might be that Leareth is going to end up compulsioning him to take down Valdemar's defenses - though his top theory for why Leareth might have done that was a misunderstanding - but that's not the only possibility - arghhh now he can't quite follow all the reasoning he did while he had the spell that made him wiser, that's so frustrating, he should have taken notes - 

 

He does not draft a message to Leareth. They're planning for Blai to go read his alignment in a few candlemarks anyway and - they'll know more then. 

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If they're not actually doing anything yet then Stef is going back to bed. 

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She should write a message to Treven and apologize for sneaking out on him? Probably??? It's a really awkward thing to say in a letter but she definitely had the thought while wiser that it's not better to keep putting it off for days... 

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Blai only needs 3 Endure Elements today since Stef is staying behind, so he can squeeze in a Detect Law. Another Minor Prophecy, another Owl's but only one and he'll squeeze in a Suppress Charms and Compulsions. And a Dispel Magic.

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Vanyel would prefer Jisa stay behind by default too, but he admits that it's quite plausible they'll end up wanting to call on her for something only she can do, whereas he really can't think what emergency would require a Bard. 

The agreed-upon meeting time is noon. The days are short this far north, though, it's only a little over four candlemarks between dawn and noon. And there's no reason not to go a little early, if the weather won't bother them anyway. 

 

The question is whether Vanyel initially shows up with Blai, or waits until Blai has verified Leareth's Lawful tendecies. Leareth agreed to Vanyel being there, and - given that Vanyel might well be able to Final Strike at short range in time if he feels Leareth trying to land a compulsion on him (or even just thinks he does), it feels like Leareth is the one taking the bigger risk here, and it's a risk that would make a lot more sense if he really wants to negotiate. 

He could wait somewhere shielded, but - he thinks it's only reflexive paranoia at this point, and probably not constructive? What does Blai think. 

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:I can cover the both of us with Suppress Charms and Compulsions for ten minutes, but I'm increasingly unsure that local magic even allows a save, and the way to use the spell which instead prevents them from working categorically will last only thirty seconds if I keep my focus on it the whole time.:

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:I don't really recognize the concept you're thinking when you talk about 'saves' so plausibly that's not a thing for our magic? It's possible to shield better and that would make you a lot harder to compulsion, but - probably not impossible, you really don't need to get a lot of power through for a compulsion to work. I think it is possible to directly fight someone trying to put a compulsion on you - by unweaving the magic before it's stable, I mean, not just by Final Striking first - but only if you're also a mage and it would depend on having faster reaction times than them. I am not going to be faster than Leareth.: 

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:Neither am I, mages all look very quick to me. Saves are a phenomenon where people throw off spells; most Golarion magic can be resisted like that.:

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Nod. :If even people with no magic can throw off spells sometimes, then - no, we don't have that. I suppose it's not impossible the difference is with people in your world, not how the magic works, and you would be able to throw off compulsions from someone worse at them?: Shrug. :It doesn't seem completely useless to have the protective spell, but it sounds like you can't use the stronger shorter-lasting version and also cast the spell to detect his alignment at the same time?: 

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:Right. I could have with Aura Sight but I thought since we didn't need as many Endure Elements I might as well go for Detect Law instead, I'm sorry.:

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Why is Blai apologizing to Vanyel for trying to optimize his spell selection, that sounds super reasonable.

:Huh, so that only detects yes or no on Lawful and won't actually tell us if he's Evil? I mean. It seems almost certainly he is. But I - wasn't expecting to read Good.: And maybe the system actually cares a lot less about mass murder than he assumed it would. 

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:Right. I can check for Evil another day.:

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:I guess whether he's Lawful is the main part we care about.: 

 

The kyree have breakfast for them if they want - including grain cooked into porridge, this time, they presumably don't farm so Vanyel has to assume they stole it - and then maybe they can go, to make sure they have plenty of time to reach the other caves? 

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If nobody tells Blai that the grain was stolen he will not skip breakfast in protest!

He's ready to go whenever Vanyel is. Endure Elements, Endure Elements.

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(It's an offhand thought, and awkward to bring up since the kyree are being very generous in hosting them; it won't occur to Vanyel to mention it to anyone.) 

 

They have a couple of candlemarks and it's not as far as the earlier trip, so it can be a leisurely sled ride. Vanyel is barely motion sick at all. 

This does mean he has lots of mental space left to FRET, but he's not going to make this Blai's problem. 

(Yfandes stays back. The deep snow is harder for Companions to navigate, and he doesn't actually need her there for this.) 

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Blai is also fretting and not making this anyone else's problem! As per usual.

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They reach the other caves! 

They're properly at the base of the Ice Wall Mountains now, and the sky is clear enough today to offer a beautiful view of snowy peaks. There's a gorgeous frozen waterfall – the kyree probably picked it as an easy-to-identify landmark. The entrance to the cave in question is a triangular opening between two enormous granite boulders, that would probably be doorlike to serve as a Gate-threshold. 

No one else seems to be there yet, but they are still a little early. 

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Also Leareth could totally be here already and just behind an illusion. The illusion he laid to conceal the pass was indistinguishable from reality - not just sight, but for walking on too - for everyone except the kyree. 

(The kyree shaman is still cloaking them from magical searches, but not trying to hide their presence from nearby eyes.) 

 

Time to wait in a cave and WORRY. Vanyel has enough butterflies in his stomach that he kind of regrets breakfast. What if there's an earthquake and the cave collapses on them. What if Leareth betrays them after all. What if he freezes up and says something unbearably awkward. 

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...Leareth isn't in fact here yet, but Nayoki is behind the best illusion he and his specialist mages can pull off, and additionally buried in a snowbank; she doesn't need her eyes to scope out what's going on. 

Vanyel is actually shielded enough that she would be hard-pressed to get through at all and definitely couldn't without alerting him - she can see him with Mindhealing Sight and that's it - but Blai isn't any more shielded than he was previously. 

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Blai's put Detect Magic up, first of all, is she more than three feet deep?

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She's not more than three feet deep! She has to be able to breathe and stuff.

She is nearly a hundred yards away, though – the illusion hiding her is the 'silent' kind, with its magical signature entirely turned in upon itself, and it shouldn't leak anything to mage-sight, but just in case she didn't want to be too close to anywhere Vanyel might be examining up close. She's had longer to train her Mindhealing Sight range than Jisa has, and her Thoughtsensing range is measured in dozens of miles. 

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Detect Magic is limited to sixty feet! Blai is looking curiously at the cloaking effect the kyree have up. He is at present unclear on the exact nature of the alliance these people have with the kyree, who seem lovely but are being very helpful for no obvious recompense, and he is concerned that this may come due. Also he sort of volunteered to be an ongoing ?diplomat? of some kind with Leareth if relevant things could be established and he has no idea what conditions he will be kept in or whether this was a stupid thing to offer to do even if he didn't strictly speaking commit to it just express a vague amenability. Should he have offered to Aura Sight the kyree, the humans and Companions were all weirdly excited about it. What if this sled falls apart and he is flung into a tree and breaks his neck. What if Leareth has been Lawful SO FAR but has no emotional attachment to staying that way and decides to just use being currently Lawful to get cooperation and then betray it and he becomes a CHAOTIC evil god, those are also incredibly bad! Though admittedly he doesn't know them to currently control any countries and evil gods controlling countries is salient to him right now, Urgathoa was backing Tar-Baphon and that was also really bad! And even if he didn't flip all the way to Chaotic, Neutral Evil gods aren't good either!

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The kyree may or may not know she's here - Nayoki can't get through on their minds either - but apparently if they do they're not making a fuss about her deciding to arrive early as well. 

 

The priest so worried that Leareth's god is going to turn out evil!!! ...Or possibly is thinking about an entirely different mechanism specific to his world, Leareth is not by default intending to template a god on himself and indeed thinks that's a much worse idea than doing it from scratch. Nayoki is nonetheless faintly offended on Leareth's behalf. Do they not trust him to have checked his math. 

He does not seem inclined to pre-emptively betray them to prevent Leareth from accidentally creating/becoming an evil god. In fact, his thoughts are a bizarre degree of - operating in good faith - given how worried he seems to be about the evil god thing, or about the possibility that Leareth will react to learning about his world by abruptly deciding to be a totally different kind of person who doesn't care about keeping to his word, which really seems like the opposite of how it makes sense to react if you've just learned that it's possible for people to directly perceive whether you're inclined to keep your word.

...There's something there that reminds her a little of Leareth himself, actually. 

 

She relays via Mindspeech to someone ten miles away that this currently looks unlikely to be a trap. 

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It's still a risk. 

But Leareth has had quite a lot of time to think, and - this seems like the best, and possibly the only acceptable, way forward. 

 

He Gates in to just outside the cave, rather than risk scaring Vanyel by Gating on top of him; he does an unscaffolded horizontal Gate so he can drop through it and have it down in under a second, in case there are gryphons who were somehow able to intercept a message or track Vanyel here.   

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You can do that?????? 

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(There are no gryphons.) 

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Huh. Maybe all their transit magic is gate-based?? Like, this ninth circle spell could have been a Dimension Door. He should not startle anybody by casting anything; he goes on concentrating on Detect Magic, which made the gate look really interesting. (He's got a Guidance he cast during the sled ride and it's still available if he needs it.) :Should I cast Detect Law now?: he asks.

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(The Gate does look interesting! It's definitely doing some kind of extraplanar interaction.) 

Leareth walks into the cave - the point of doing this under shelter was not to be visible if anyone is paying attention to energy-shifts in the local ley lines and Farsight-scanning the area for movement - and stops well short of them. 

:You can go ahead.: He also has mage-sight active, and is curious. 

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"Detect Law."

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Leareth is definitely Lawful! 

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:Lawful,: Blai confirms.

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Leareth hadn't actually been sure. 

 

 

(He knows what his intentions are, and the shape of person he is, and that if Vanyel is willing to offer his cooperation then Leareth will do everything he can to make sure it wasn't a mistake. But it's hard to guess how the magic of another world would weight things, and what it would judge him for. He...hadn't been sure. If this way of trying to demonstrate his intentions would actually work, or - how it would go, if it didn't.) 

He relaxes infinitesimally. 

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Vanyel has twenty years of practice trying to guess at what Leareth is thinking and feeling from the tiniest shifts in the tension around his eyes. He notices. 

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Leareth is not Chelish but he might as well be and Blai has no individual familiarity with him. :This by itself guarantees almost nothing but I would be willing to trust sufficiently - solemn - and sufficiently broad so as to avoid exact-words-ing oaths, now.:

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"I was also planning to cast a first-stage Truth Spell. Do you have a way to get around it?" 

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"No." 

He could likely have figured out a way, if he wanted to put in some research. It...did not seem like it would be an ability he wanted to have, in the worlds where it was ever going to come up. 

He could also solemnly swear to that if Vanyel asks him, but Leareth is already very careful about the oaths he gives, and he does not actually like the feeling that maybe he has to be additionally careful because he doesn't know what the other world's magic is judging him on. 

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Truth Spell. The vrondi do in fact appear to behave normally. 

 

Vanyel isn't going to ask him to solemnly swear about that specifically, mostly because it would be a little weird in any other situation in his life and it hasn't occurred to him. 

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(Blai recasts Detect Magic.)

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He can see the vrondi! They're very pretty. 

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This might be one of the most important moments in the last thousand years and Leareth is - 

 

- terrified, actually, mostly because a god from another world who he knows barely anything about might be paying attention to him right now. He doesn't know if that's how it works but it could be. 

That doesn't matter though. 

"I swear to you on the stars that I have not lied to Vanyel to date, that I intend to tell the truth to best of my knowledge today, and that my intent is still to cooperate with Vanyel. I swear I did not arrange for the Changecreature attack in Haven - or any kind of offensive against k'Treva Vale - and had no knowledge of them until reports arrived after the fact, I did not authorize any operations against Valdemar at all, I did not form any contingency-plans that resembled either attack in any way, and I have verified to my satisfaction that they could not have been done by anyone affiliated with my organization without my knowledge. I - had made no firm commitments to Vanyel, but was not expecting or intending to begin a war in the next year, significantly because I placed - at least one in ten odds that Vanyel would end up willing to help find something better.

"I am not going to commit to a future course of action until I know more, but I think it is - at least nine in ten odds - that I will call off the current plan, however costly that is, and spend at least fifty years determining if the existence of another world means there are better alternatives, either a different power source or a different way of improving the equilibrium with Velgarth's gods. ...At least forty million people will die of other causes during that time, if my estimates are right, and - from what I know, it is significantly less likely that a god I end up creating would have remit over their spirits to get them back."

And he made a vow and it applies to them too, and he's fairly sure that talking to the priest of the god from another world is in expectation the best action he can take toward fulfilling that vow and this does not make it less terrifying. There's a chance the gods of another world are less limited than the gods of his. There's a chance that this priest's god will notice him, decide that he doesn't look steerable in convenient directions, and try to destroy him, and succeed. 

It's still worth it. He doesn't think it's a very big chance. 

"I would still choose to wait, if it means I can find something better. - I am definitely not willing to swear anything about what I might do after fifty years, but I swear I am not deliberately misrepresenting my intentions at this time." 

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The vrondi think that Leareth is not lying about any of that. 

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:I would like your oath that you will neither personally ascend while evil - I have no personally verified knowledge of you being evil, though I can check tomorrow - nor create a god likely to be evil. I can justify this request in more detail if it's not self-evident. My goddess is ascended and in life served a god who also ascended, and I have nothing against adding new gods to the world in principle. But not evil ones.:

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This is in some sense one of the most sensible initial responses anyone has ever had to Leareth's plans! He wasn't planning to create an evil god, and is really very sure that using blood-magic to power the working will not directly impact the gods values, but it's on priors a reasonable worry for someone to have! 

He also has very little information on what the priest's goddess (or the mortal civilization in his world, but the goddess's values are the relevant ones, probably, if the spell comes from Her) would consider evil, and swearing an oath on a pointer to an ethical system he isn't familiar with sounds like a terrible idea! 

:...The request is self-evident but different people in Velgarth disagree widely on what they consider evil. I do expect that if you were to - check directly via the same mechanism you used to check if I am 'Lawful' - I would probably count as evil. I am willing to swear I do not intend to create a god who is evil and - if your world offers mechanisms for verifying whether a given design for a god is likely to be evil, I swear I will use those. ...I am not going to swear now to abide by them in all cases but I would be willing to once I know more about the ethical system involved. I was not intending to personally ascend and would need vastly more information on how the mechanism...works...to consider it at all, but - I swear I will not knowingly choose to ascend and become a god that I predict would act in ways that most Velgarth ethical systems agree are evil?: 

 

Being asked for this is probably a positive update! It seems like evidence that the goddess from another world cares about human welfare at all! It would not help to panic about the possibility that he has an irreconcilable values different with the priest's goddess and she will see that he's not willing to back down and choose to destroy him over it, and Leareth is not panicking about this, but it's taking some work. 

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...Leareth is scared. 

 

Vanyel has absolutely no idea what to do with that observation??????? 

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:Iomedae was concerned with turning out the shape she intended on ascent and made extensive use of the spell Commune to check with her own god about it. He is no longer available, but She is. I can't cast Commune myself as it is fifth circle and I am third but there are clerics who can on my planet and probably on others though I have no special ability to locate additional planets with established churches. I do not know exactly what ethical philosophies might be prevalent on this planet nor whether my belief that the nature of Evil is mostly commonsense will hold under these circumstances. I... don't have my copy of the Acts of Iomedae, it's in Haven...:

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Nod. 

:I am not sure if this actually solves anything from your point of view, and I would need to formulate a phrasing I would be comfortable swearing to, but - I do feel confident that I understand Vanyel's reasoning about ethics and will not be surprised by anything there, and - I would trust him to judge if the risk of creating an evil god was too high. I think - much of what is good or evil is commonsense, but common sense can break down around - tradeoffs, and situations where there is no good answer - and I trust Vanyel's thinking there.: 

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Leareth trusts him with that??????!!!!!!!!!

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:Would you also trust him to delegate this responsibility?:

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He would actually really prefer not to have to swear to that but it’s better than the goddess from another world deciding he needs to be destroyed so

Also it is, in fact, hard to overstate how much caution is warranted when the thing one is doing is creating a god. 

:I think so. I am not sure I want to swear to it yet without considering it more, I have not already had reason to consider the question.:

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:Is your primary motivation in creating a custom god here the afterlife situation?:

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:That is part of it. Though I could have worked with a modification of the reincarnation system to let people retain memories across lives, if that were easy to implement, which I had reason to think it might be given the existence of the Companions. But...: 

He hesitates, clearly considering how to explain. But 

:There was a kingdom called Tantara, once, and it was - better than anywhere that has existed in Velgarth since for the last two thousand years. It was not perfect, but - any child born in the entire Kingdom could earn a chance to study at Urtho's Tower, if they were Gifted or clever or simply determined enough. And children grow up cleverer when they never go hungry - in Tantara the harvests rarely failed, because there were enough mages trained in weather-working, and if one region was unlucky there were permanent Gates across the whole Kingdom to transport goods. They had around the same number of Healers, but the logistics for almost anyone in the Kingdom to access them. And they - 

- they were getting better. There were generations of students at Urtho's Tower who went on to invent and teach and build things, so that their children would have even more abundance to build on.:

A pause. 

:...And then the Cataclysm destroyed all of that. But - it should have been possible to rebuild, right, all you need to build a civilization is people and the people are the same as they were before. But there is one place on the planet right now that has permanent Gates and enough weather-mages to prevent famines, and it is an empire I built that ended up with its government build mostly on mind control, that bans all churches because when they were allowed their priests kept being given visions telling them to assassinate its leaders our inventors - to be clear, that started before the empire was run on mind control, so the gods cannot have been objecting to that - and they have abundance in food and magic and all of it goes into pointless political scheming and so nothing ever changes, not really.: 

:And almost everywhere else, children starve. I suppose it would be a little better, if they went to a pleasant afterlife, but - it would not actually address my objection, which is that it should be possible to have a civilization where that does not need to happen. I lived in one, once. And every time I tried to remake it, for a thousand years - every time anyone tried, I did go examine histories of places I had not been personally once I thought I saw a pattern - something went wrong. And eventually I had to conclude that our current gods prefer a world that never changes too much. Where most people are either too poor and desperate or too hemmed-in by other constraints to do anything interesting with their lives. My best guess is that it has to do with Foresight, that They can see more clearly if people are more predictable, and that They...do not actually have a sensory modality that lets Them perceive the suffering it causes.: 

:I did try talking to Them first. There was no indication that They were interested in listening, and maybe They were not capable of it. I have in my notes that Vkandis set me on fire for attempting it.: 

Another pause. 

:...I swear I have been telling the truth as best as I am aware of it.: 

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The vrondi seem to agree with that. 

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:Having Good gods around does not prevent famine, not when there are also Evil ones.:

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:I think that is not the problem here and none of our gods prefer famine to not absent other considerations, but it sounds like an awful problem to have! And - it makes sense that the risk of accidentally creating an evil god is so salient to you.: 

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:There are a number of evil gods active on Golarion. They are very bad. Dramatically worse than the ones you have here, so far as I'm presently aware. And - big. Gods can act across millennia and over many planets. But there are also many Good ones, and you could just attempt to invite one or more of those here, to establish churches and negotiate with the local pantheon.

Pharasma the Creator and the Judge might, if She has not explicitly chosen for reasons of Her own to permit it, take offense at the management of souls that appears to be in operation here, should She notice.

There are nine afterlives, corresponding to alignments, and the Evil ones are much of what make the Evil gods so bad.:

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Why are there nine afterlives. That sounds like so much extra work for Someone to have set up. 

:Understood. Thank you for explaining.: It seems like it could make things worse to come to the attention of "Pharasma" if it means getting dragged into the inexplicably elaborate afterlife system that includes multiple bad ones! :If your world has Good gods that can negotiate with our gods, that would at least help, though I have some concern that the word 'gods' applying to both is eliding a significant difference between the - kinds of entity they are. I have trouble imagining how alignment would apply to ours even if it applied to mortals.: 

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:Gods, like mortals, are intelligent beings that can take actions with moral valence. Even if the ones here are not the same kind of thing they appear to be a kind of thing that much is true of. Though I can't read them directly. But I brought up Pharasma because - the possibilities include that She hasn't noticed this place and its soul-management, and that any change in the soul-handling or creation of new gods might cause Her to - that would be a fairly good reason for the local gods not to want you to succeed - or that She has noticed it, and allows it, but would not be moved to allow a revised scheme.:

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:That is valuable information to have. Thank you.: 

Leareth spends a while considering it. 

:Would asking your goddess to help communicate with our gods - for example, to ask if that is why They oppose my plan - necessarily alert Pharasma? ...Is there actually a decision to make there or would your goddess already know about this world because you have been asking for spells from here?: 

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:I am not aware of all agreements with Pharasma Iomedae may be a party to but I suspect She would not have agreed to inform on any means of circumventing the Evil afterlives, their end being Her chief goal. However, She's budget-constrained at the moment - gods operative on Golarion forego opportunities to act on the Material plane not out of lack of raw power but due to a treaty-like limitation that constrains them from cancelling each other out at every turn. I don't know how much attention She's paying me or my spell choices.:

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Nod. 

:This is on a different topic, and I would need to think about the risk of alerting Pharasma if She is not already aware of us, but - do you need to return home? If it is simply in another plane then I think it ought be possible to direct a Gate there, if I could figure out the search-spell navigation.: 

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:I was traveling to meet an obligation but will not be late for several weeks. I do think this is probably in the same plane, though I know of some others one could probably stop in to make a two-hop trip.:

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:…If it is on another planet and simply very far away that is harder, but - you got here by magic somehow, there must be a planar routing that would work. …It might take more than a few weeks to figure it out.:

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Of course Leareth is sure how to figure it out, even though Vanyel wouldn’t have the faintest idea where to start.

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:If it's faster to get just a message to someone, the obligation in question is a project of some Golarion archmages who might or might not feel inclined to collect me themselves if they were aware of where I am. I wouldn't by preference contact them directly, but someone who could get ahold of them at a convenient moment.:

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Leareth has a number of questions about that! But - now isn't the time to demand answers about what exactly a group of archmages from another world is working on before he agrees to help. 

He intends to cooperate, here. He - thinks it's going well, so far - but he doesn't know how fragile that is. He thinks that in expectation, and given the mistakes he already made because he had incomplete information, the downside risk here is much more "he does something that convinces the priest it's too dangerous to risk working with him", rather than "it turns out to be a mistake from Leareth's values to try for cooperation here." 

He's not going to solemnly swear that he will send a message to someone in Blai's world, but - he's not going to make his offer of help here conditional. 

:Of course. I am not sure it would be less of a research project to figure out how to direct a communication-spell to a person in your world, but it might turn out to be a more tractable spell to cast in terms of power requirements.: 

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Nayoki knows that Leareth had not gone into this intending to read the priest's mind, even if he turned out to be unshielded; he has enough to concentrate on already. Nayoki has no such limitation. She's fairly sure this wasn't intended as a trap on Vanyel or the priest's part, but it's not impossible Someone - probably not the priest's god but it doesn't seem impossible - is trying to steer for the negotiation going badly, and she wants some warning. She's no longer in Mindhealing Sight range now that everyone is inside the cave, but her Thoughtsensing range can reach them easily. 

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What if Iomedae had to as a condition of ascension agree to report irregular soul arrangements to Pharasma and it was too late to keep a third of this planet out of the Evil afterlives the minute he appeared, or the first time he prayed here, or when he prepared the first Minor Prophecy, and all the local gods were trying to do this whole time was keep the souls out of Hell! He's not totally sure if it's worth it to keep a soul out of Heaven and one out of Axis for every one you're sparing Hell but maybe they're working with different ratios here or something... What if Leareth and the other archmages get into a fight because the archmages are Good (one of them is he thinks even Chaotic Good) and it's like Geb and Nex and there's a new Mana Wastes or worse... what if the local gods are actually great at squashing archmages and would be especially great at squashing ones who aren't used to prophecy working and don't have practice dealing with them and working around them, and they come here to pick up Blai who does not remotely warrant any risk of a Good archmage getting squashed, over some weird slotless Sending to Fiducia Boian to ask him to get word to their offices about a stray convention delegate, and then the Worldwound opens up again and Cheliax descends into civil war and Asmodeus can take it back and millions of children the Arch-healer would have cured of disease die of dysentery. What if Vanyel panics for no reason and explodes. Why can these people explode!!! Why is his copy of the Acts in Haven, he wants it back. Should he have prepped Eagle's. Should he be trying for a prophecy soon. What if prophecies are expensive the same way as communes and the commandant didn't mention that just because he could not possibly have expected Blai to land on another planet because what the fuck.

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That sure is a lot of anxiety about something going wrong!!!! 

 

It...does not actually seem like much of his anxiety is about Leareth deciding to betray them? The closest thing is worrying that Leareth will get into a fight with another powerful mage from his world and cause a new Cataclysm, which is a little understandable, but Leareth in fact knows better now and will not do that. Even if the other archmages attack him first. Which one hopes they will have no reason whatsoever to do! 

It's probably not worth risking an escalation with the Heralds by trying to get one of Leareth's spies in Haven to retrieve his goddess's holy book, even though Leareth almost certainly wants to read it and it would be very informative. Also she's not sure they even could at this point, the Heralds have really tightened up on paranoia. 

She doesn't interrupt Leareth. 

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Leareth is starting to get an extremely itchy feeling about their current location. It's not very godclaimed territory but it's not that far from the Pelagirs on one side, and only moderately further from Iftel on the other side, and he can't think how any of the forces Valdemar is amassing right now would be able to track his movements, but there was a Gate and someone could have already been scrying the general area and zeroed in on the mage-energy signature quickly enough, it's not completely impossible if they get lucky enough, and - luck has always been on the side of the gods. 

 

:There is a great deal more we ought discuss: he sends, :including methods to contact your world, but - are there further assurances you would need to feel comfortable having those conversations in one of my secure bases on the other side of the mountains?: 

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:I'm willing but I very strongly advise also setting up a non dream based communication system as soon as humanly possible.:

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Nod. 

:I have a mage-artifact I can give Vanyel for a communication-spell variant that I do not believe is known outside the Eastern Empire - which will at least make it harder for parties opposed to our negotiations to intercept - and written instructions to cast it directly. ...Now that we have met face to face, we should also be able to Mindspeak directly as long as Vanyel is north of the Valdemaran border, as long as neither of us is behind shields that do not allow directed Mindspeech. I can commit to ensuring I am within a hundred miles of this location and not behind shields that would prohibit Vanyel from reaching me with Mindspeech. I can also provide a second artifact if Vanyel would like to deliver one to Waymeet, but given that the dream seemed to be blocked from within Valdemar and we suspect this was through the influence of the Web, I am not entirely confident that a communications-spell could not also be blocked. The messenger I sent who I believe is now in Haven does also have directions if the Heralds other than Vanyel wish to contact me. I have not heard anything.: 

Leareth is actually not entirely sure his messenger is alive. Putting a spell to track her life-force would have been detectable, and he deliberately chose to send her in with no detectable magic at all, even a shield-talisman. It would be extremely out of character for the Heralds to execute her, but - the Heralds aren't the only actors in Haven. And the Heralds have clamped down wildly on security, which is understandable but means his spy-coverage of any decisionmaking they choose not to involve the Council in is very lacking. 

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They should tell Leareth about the second prophecy and what they saw happening in Haven. It seems really unlikely at this point that Leareth had - was going to have? - anything to do with it. And it's plausibly information on exactly how hostile the force behind the Web might be to them. 

Vanyel reaches out to Blai privately in Mindspeech. :I think we should warn him about - what we saw me doing in Haven. Did you still want to cast the prophecy spell on him as well?: 

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:That's a good idea.: Unless it's as expensive as a Commune! But he has no way to check! Iomedae if these are too expensive PLEASE stop giving them out! :I've prepared a Minor Prophecy which grants me a vision of a significant event the subject is involved in over the next several days. Would you like to be the subject of the one I can cast today?:

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Aaaaahhhh???!!! 

....Leareth thinks that most of his feeling of alarm about this is not especially rational. Probably. Vanyel doesn't look like he finds it alarming. 

:What do you think are the odds that it causes your goddess to pay attention to me when She had not previously been, and this results in: Her deciding to destroy him that is not actually the threat model to be focusing on here he's just unreasonably terrified of it as a concept :- Pharasma finding out about our world and objecting to the soul-management arrangement?: 

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:Er, we - already used it once, on someone from our party, and got a vision that had you in it.: And of course Vanyel had not even slightly tried to game out what other problems that might cause! :I don't think casting it on you as the target has much additional risk?: Glance at Blai. 

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:I agree that it's not a large additional risk compared to having already prophesied about you and on this planet at all.:

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It would not help to dedicate any of his thoughts right now to panicking about that and Leareth doesn't. He has more information now and having more information is always preferable to not even if the contents are terrifying. And Nayoki is here and explicitly delegated with deciding if he needs to get out immediately and telling him to do that. 

:Then - yes, I am willing.: 

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"Minor Prophecy."

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In the Void, amidst endlessly churning smears of magic, where it should be impossible to build anything, there is a structure, and a spell. 

The structure is a hole-inside-a-hole, a planar space carved out of nothingness, a hidden nearly-indestructible sanctuary built where nothing else is stable.

That structure is Leareth, as much as anything is, and really moreso than his body, which after all hasn't always belonged to him.

The spell is a thread and it ties Leareth to the world and it stands for - 

- a relentless infinite sense of purpose, never to die never to give up never to lose to return again and again no matter the cost no matter how long it takes - 

 

 

 

And then a spirit hawk on wings of fire pounces on the sanctuary and very carefully and methodically shreds it, delicately avoiding disturbing the cord of magic that would warn Leareth that something is happening. 

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Oh that's dizzying and he can't hold it very well, he hopes somebody was reading his mind for it.

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Nayoki was reading his mind! And also has any context on what they might be looking at! 

 

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Aaaaaaahhhh????!!!!! 

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Why is Blai making that face??? What did he see???? 

 

:Blai, what -: 

He wasn't previously reading Blai's mind but he's maybe going to try it now. 

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(Nayoki is still - processing - and trying to figure out how to convey what she saw to Leareth without causing him to panic in a way that will really not help -) 

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:There was... uh...: The most concrete thing he got was "there was an ?astral? bird" but that such a bird exists was so obviously not the point. He didn't even SEE Leareth, just Leareth's - clone repository? Something that's the practical equivalent of a clone repository? Is Leareth astral projecting at all times and somebody's going to cut his silver cord? No, that's clearly projecting too much Golarion-type magic onto the situation and Blai doesn't even know any non-fictional astral projection facts, but what words do you put to that which don't try to impose any interpretation on it -

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What - but that can't possibly - Vanyel's mind is bouncing away from exactly what can't possibly - 

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:Leareth.: 

 

:Please try not to Gate out without having given Vanyel the communications artifact. I think you are not in imminent danger and it will not help.: 

 

:The priest saw - someone, I suspect of the Tayledras from their projected form - identifying and damaging your immortality backup.: 

Maybe irreparably destroying it but that wasn't obvious from the fragments she managed to pick up of the vision and she is absolutely going to frame it with the most optimistic possible reading if that results in Leareth panicking slightly less right now. 

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Leareth does not panic-Gate out. 

 

 

...He doesn't do anything else, either. It's taking every scrap of self-control he has just to hold himself perfectly still and not - what - what could he possibly do, Gating to safety won't even help - he can't think 

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Presumably he just read Blai's mind as well and - the thing Vanyel can't think about directly is what it was showing - 

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:There was some kind of: don't say astral, that's a Golarion assumption, :magic birdlike thing, which found your - extraplanar - thing - possibly related to how you are immortal somehow - and was interfering with it?: Blai ventures, when he has words lined up that he thinks only minimally embed his own interpretations of the vision.

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Leareth is not really processing new inputs right now and in any case that's approximately what Nayoki already relayed. He does not visibly react at all. 

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That's bad.

(Vanyel realizes a moment later that he had that thought without a moment of hesitation, and - apparently he's already decided that Leareth is on their side. Or that he's on Leareth's side.) 

 

...His next, awful thought is: Jisa. 

Oh, and I had an idea about how to find Leareth's immortality setup in the Void, he remembers her saying. Casually, offhand, they barely dwelled on it at all. She did also say I don't think we should actually do that, it would scare him, but - they're all tense - Vanyel asked her to stay behind because he was worried it would be dangerous - how much of a godplot would it even take to nudge her into thinking something had gone terribly wrong - 

Jisa is apparently Chaotic and wouldn't quibble at doing it even if she had promised not to, and she didn't actually promise anything

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Leareth is - really not okay, is he. Nayoki thinks she may have been underestimating how much strain he was already under before this new piece of information; she didn't have Mindhealing Sight range for most of the conversation and anyway his 'full caution' shields when he's out and about somewhere mostly block her. 

 

...She probably needs to step in and help organize Leareth handing off the artifacts and getting out of here, plus or minus negotiating for Vanyel and the priest to accompany them somewhere more secure - she told Leareth she wasn't that worried about imminent danger, but it would still be better not to hang around here for no reason and he's going to have an easier time calming down somewhere he feels safer - but she's not sure how tense Vanyel is, he's still too shielded for her to read, and the priest in particular is not going to have positive memories of her.

How tense - or, in particular, how worried about Leareth reacting to this information badly in a way that ends up harming him or Vanyel - does he seem right now? (Leareth obviously isn't going to do any kind of "you know too much, now I need to kill you" thing, but a generic evil mage might, and Nayoki isn't sure to what extent Blai is still thinking of Leareth as - that.) 

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Obviously if someone's gone and murdered all your Clones or whatever the fuck that was you're going to be pretty alarmed and want to retreat to an emergency backup demiplane and make more Clones, Blai figures.

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Oh good. 

 

...One more try at handling this without shoving her presence in the priest's face. :Leareth. Give Vanyel the artifacts, tell them you are grateful for the information or something, and Gate out.: Maybe he's stuck because she explicitly told him not to Gate out and he had delegated that decision to her. 

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Leareth does not have to be able to think to execute on that. 

:- Thank you, that is - valuable information to have.: His mindvoice is only slightly disjointed. :Vanyel, I am putting the communication-spell artifacts and the instructions for it here.: There now they're on the floor of the cave. :- I know I said I would commit to staying reachable by Mindspeech but given this information I may prefer to go somewhere more secure that is not reachable. The communication spell will still work. ...You are welcome to also come but if you already have a secure base to return to I have no reason to specifically think you are not safe there.: 

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...Wow, seeing Leareth seem noticeably stressed is upsetting. It feels like reality is breaking the rules. 

:Thank you for the offer but we have somewhere.: 

 

They should get back to Jisa. In case she is the one who's going to do - that - but hasn't yet. Maybe if they hadn't had the prophecy spell they would have stayed here talking about magic research to find Blai's world until the gods collapsed the entire cave on their heads and Leareth was trapped unconscious or something and Jisa panicked and did that and then Leareth died of dehydration two days later and wasn't immortal and - 

- he feels like he's forgetting something and he really really wants the wisdom spell but is now really the moment they're most going to need it for the entire day, it's not a good situation to be getting thinking done - 

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Gate out. 

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Well. That...is a thing that just happened. 

 

 

...After a moment Vanyel bends and picks up the items Leareth put on the floor and tucks them into a pocket before he has a chance to forget to do that. 

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:...back to the sled, then?:

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:Right. We should get back.: 

Vanyel is pretty sure there are thoughts he should be having but he's - not managing it. There were way too many things that happened in that conversation even before the - that - and he wasn't even in contact with Yfandes for the benefit of her basically-eidetic memory. He should have been taking notes. 

They can go back out to the sled. 

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(Nayoki will wait until they're a mile off to creep out of the snowbank - she's still behind an illusion and it might not hold up at very short range but it's not hard to camouflage someone against endless deep snow, she shouldn't show up on Farseeing or scrying - and slip away into the forest on foot, she wants to get a little ways from the site where someone watching closely enough might have detected Leareth's Gates before she leaves herself.) 

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The kyree are waiting for them. And have no idea about the contents of their conversation because it took place entirely in private Mindspeech. 

:So it went well then?: Aroon says cheerfully. 

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Um. 

Vanyel will probably figure out a way to answer that question in a moment. 

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:As well as can be expected, I think.: If there is some secret method for having meetings with evil archmages nonstressfully Blai does not know it.

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:He read as Lawful to Blai's magic and he swore a lot of things under Truth Spell and I'm pretty sure he didn't try to put compulsions on us. He didn't exactly swear not to make an evil god but - I think his objections to that were reasonable, and I think he doesn't intend to create an evil god so - hopefully will take constructive criticism about it. We have a communications-artifact if we need to talk to him more urgently than letters.: 

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That sounds like it went well! They can have a nice unhurried sled ride back. 

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A few minutes in, Vanyel remembers what he forgot. 

 

:Oh no I meant to tell him about the prophecy you cast on me.: 

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:Well, now you have the artifacts and the spell, right? How long will it take you to learn the spell?:

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:...I don't think it should take too long, it sounds like it's a variant on the more commonly known spell I already learned from him. And - I guess if we're casting it from the Hot Spring Clan caves, which should work fine even if Mindspeech wouldn't, and he's also behind shields, it should be close to impossible for Iftel to intercept even if they have people skulking around. I can try once we get back to the caves.: 

 

His mind is still clearly looking for something to fret about and has now fallen onto "worrying that Leareth is really upset" which is such a pointless thing to spend energy worrying about. 

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Blai was really expecting to be whisked away back into the exact same cell where they were keeping him after that conversation, except no longer Technically Kidnapped (a vitally important distinction). So now he feels sort of at a loose end. Also he really wants the Acts.

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There are so many options for things to spend over a candlemark of sled-right being stressed about! 

:...I think I might be unreasonably fixated on worrying about this: Vanyel sends to Blai eventually, :but I'm really scared that somehow Jisa ends up wrecking his immortality because a godplot happens to us and she - assumes the worst. She said she'd thought of a way to find it, and - the spirit bird thing could be a White Winds technique, they're a secret mage-school where she trained and they do a lot of planar magic.

- I'm just really hoping that if it was that, it was going to happen in the cave if we hadn't done the prophecy, and maybe leaving in a hurry means it can't happen now... Actually I might be fixating on that because it's - a way it could end up not happening - and if it wasn't going to be Jisa I have no idea what we can do about it.: 

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:Can you reach her yet? If you're worried about this you should tell her as soon as we're in range.:

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:I tried and couldn't. Or Yfandes either. I...should be in range, actually, but - it might be the shields on the caves, it's a kind of magic I don't know and I'm probably not keyed to them– actually wait I'm being an idiot.:

He pulls Aroon into the link. :Are you able to reach Hyrryl from here?: 

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:Unless she is busy. Why?: 

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Vanyel is not sure he feels like relaying this entire conversation through two kyree. It's not that he doesn't trust them, but - you can't unshare a secret, and honestly he only trusts them as much as he does because Stef trusts them and did he ever really check that. 

:Can you have her ask Jisa to duck out so we can Mindspeak her for a report? Or key her to the shields so she can Mindspeak me from inside, that would work too.: 

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:Of course.: 

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And several minutes later, 

:- You're headed back already? How did it go?: Jisa is including both Vanyel and Blai, they're only five miles away at this point, and her Mindspeech isn't nearly as long-range as Vanyel's but it's not that hard to Mindspeak someone un-Gifted at that range if she has Enara helping. 

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Enormous relief!

:I think it went well in - all the ways we were specifically worried about. But, er, something else came up. - can you keep it to yourself for the moment, it's all right to tell Stef and the Companions but I don't know if the kyree should know.: 

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That sounds a little ominous. 

:Er, sure, of course.: 

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:Um. We agreed to have Blai cast the prophecy spell on Leareth as well. We think what it showed was - someone damaging or destroying his immortality setup.: 

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:Oh no. Um. How?: 

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Vanyel doesn't think there's any hint in Jisa's mindvoice that she's concealing something from him - the overtones are deeply and genuinely confused and distressed - but he haaaaaaaaaates having to ask himself that question at all. 

:There was a - spirit bird? Blai had the vision, I - only got part of it off him - I'm not sure of more detail than that: 

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A long pause. 

:Blai, was the spirit bird a hawk, do you think?: 

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:I couldn't swear to it but there are kinds of bird I could rule out and 'hawk' isn't one of them.:

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:I think it's Brightstar.: 

:It - makes sense - we were looking for it. If I thought of way to find it he could have too. And he - if the Star-Eyed ordered him...: 

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Well he flagged that but apparently he did a bad job of it because it took a Minor Prophecy to get Jisa to worry about the Star-Eyed's guy. This isn't why Blai's not close with any of his sisters but if it were it'd be a good reason.

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Jisa is finding this really upsetting! 

:I still don't think he would do it if he knew he was sabotaging our negotiations! I think he - I could see him doing it if he thought everything had already broken down. But I don't know why he would end up thinking that, something must - go wrong in Haven -: 

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:I'm not sure what specifically could go wrong with Leareth's messenger there but we know there's a Heartstone.: 

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:You're almost back, right? We can talk about it then?: Jisa is pretty sure it's fine actually to hang out in front of the kyree caves, and she has Endure Elements so she's comfy, but Enara was nervous. 

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:I think half a candlemark but I can tell Aroon to go faster.: 

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They can be back in half that time! At the cost of lots of terrifying leaps and making Vanyel motion-sick again.

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Ughhhhhh. 

Vanyel is stumbling slightly on his way back into the cave, but - they're here, Jisa is safe, Stef is safe, Yfandes is hurrying to meet him and snuffling at his hair, and - it feels like things are very very bad but they have more information than they did before - or could reasonably have expected to have at all, really - and probably there's still a way to stop this from ending with Leareth maybe permanently dead and Vanyel himself ???Final Striking Haven or maybe incompetently trying to create a tiny god???

 

:...I should try to get the communication spell working and contact Leareth. I think we want to know right away that it does work and - I do want to ask what he thinks of the other prophecy. We can try to get in contact with Haven after that.: 

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:I can just go to Waymeet while you're doing that? It feels risky to wait. - Enara and Yfandes both tried reaching the Groveborn but we must be too far, and if there are any Companions in Waymeet they're behind shields.: 

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The problem is that, while Vanyel can't specifically think of what could go wrong, Waymeet is in the Web and he's starting to feel like the possibilities of things that could go wrong there are unlimited. He wants to think about it and it's hard to think while he's still nauseous. He looks helplessly at Blai. 

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:It seems plausibly important to have someone physically in Haven. If it is essential that they not be able to explode, I meet that criterion and do not seem at this time to be wanted at Leareth's stronghold.:

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Nod. :I think Leareth, er, left in a hurry, it's possible he didn't have a chance to bring up some plan that would involve you going, but - I feel like what he would need you for most is figuring out how to get to your world? And I think not going to war with Valdemar has got to be a more urgent priority than that. I should probably try to talk to Leareth and - ask? - before we send you - and we'll need to Gate anyway and plausibly should try to arrange that in Waymeet...: 

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:Oh! Blai, if you might be going - I had a thought, there's a thing I might want to try first. That would make it easier to Gate you to Haven, it makes me stronger as a mage, but it's been slightly too hard every time I tried and I was wondering if that spell you have that makes you better at things would help.: 

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:I'm perfectly willing to cast Guidance on you.:

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:That would be really neat! ...It might need to be a lot of times. The ritual takes half a candlemark.: 

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:I can cast it as often as you like.:

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:I would really appreciate that! ...The kyree gave me a spot to do it, in the back. I need to redo the other self-test rituals, you have to do them all in order, but I passed Master a while ago, I don't need help for it. I can Mindspeak you when I'm ready?: 

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..Vanyel is going to sit down and get to work on reading the communication-spell instructions. 

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Blai nods to Jisa. Would she like a Guidance to start out with?

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Sure, why not, she can get off to an extra-good start. :And, I mean, you're welcome to come watch if you want. It probably looks interesting to the magic-detecting spell. I just don't want to make you sit there for almost a whole candlemark if you'd rather do other things.: 

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He has basically nothing else to do in here! He will go watch with Detect Magic up if it won't disturb her to have it recast a few times.

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Jisa doesn't mind! She's very good at concentrating when she wants to (being able to do arbitrary Mindhealing redirects on yourself helps). 

 

 

The magic does look very interesting to Detect Magic. It's actually more reminiscent of Golarion magic; there's an intricate structured spellform that Jisa builds up over about ten minutes, and it's not actually an extraplanar space but it's an extraplanar - passage? Between two places neither of which is here, supported by a sort of scaffolding, with an outlet in the middle where Jisa can access it. 

And then she releases the spell, and the structure doesn't stay stable for very long, but mage-energies flow 'downhill' from one place to another, the scaffolding siphons off a fraction of it, and it swirls around Jisa before settling on her in a bright shimmer. 

She stands for a moment, beaming, and then starts methodically building another spellform - it's not that dissimilar in structure, but she's putting nearly all of the power she just collected into it and it's significantly more overbuilt. 

That, too, seems to work flawlessly, and Jisa turns around, radiating magic. :This is where I need help.: 

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Presumably it's safe to touch her because she's probably noticed that Guidance is touch-range by now. He casts it and taps her on the shoulder.

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It's fine, the energy she collected is tucked into her reserves and won't zap him or anything, and it's not going to disturb her focus. She'll tell him not to be touching it when she finishes and is ready to release the spell, assuming she gets that far, but - if she does she can hold it stable for a few seconds, and he should get to watch it go off. 

 

She starts building a much more complicated spellform; there are multiple extraplanar passages in this one, looping around each other, almost braided together. She's fairly smooth at the beginning but it looks like it's very rapidly increasing in difficulty. She can try to prompt him the first few times she thinks she's used up the spell and it's no longer active but it's hard to keep track of that on top of everything else. 

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He cannot concentrate on Detect Magic and cast Guidance at the same time so he misses lots of the show but he can supply her with lots of Guidances.

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Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaand....there? 

It doesn't fall apart. It looks like how it did when she watched an Adept run it. 

 

:All right. I think I have it - you'll want to step back, there's a lot of power release if it works - and you should cast the spell to watch it.: It's going to be SO COOL. If it works. She's pretty sure if it's stable at this point it's going to but aaaaaaah. 

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Detect Magic!

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There is SO MUCH MAGIC, exploding in a (reasonably controlled) fountain out of the ground and air and spaces in between those, swirling around Jisa like a (reasonably controlled) hurricane, and eventually settling on her in a glow that might be ten times brighter than the result of the last spell. 

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EEEEEEEEEEEEEE SHE DID IT SHE DID IT SHE DID IT!!!!!!!!!!!!! 

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:This is amazing! I want to try all the Adept spells right now!: They practiced the forms "empty" (with only a wisp of mage-energy) and she should now be able to use SO MANY techniques that specifically need the Adept White Wind energy. 

 

:...But right now I guess we should go talk to Van and see if I'm Gating you to Haven.: 

She could do it! Without even getting tired! She feels like she might be able to Gate across the continent right now! She shouldn't, she should be measured and thoughtful and responsible with the power granted to her by the universe, that's what the White Winds school is all about. But she could

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:Congratulations.:

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:I can cast illusions that don't show up to mage-sight now!: Jisa is bubbling over with excitement. :I could challenge another Adept to a duel arcane! I mean, I shouldn't and I can't think how it would come up, but I could!: 

They can go find Vanyel, though. 

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He's sitting with the artifacts in one of the other cave-rooms and seems to be making notes, but he looks up when they come in, and then does a double take. :Jisa! You did it!: 

He scrambles up to give her a hug. Blai has probably not seen him smile like this at any previous point. 

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:I did it! I think I've got it, now, I just needed Blai's spell to get through it the first time.: She has used Mindhealing on herself to a mildly irresponsible degree and is going to have the Weird Dreams again tonight but WORTH IT. :Did you get through to Leareth?: 

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:Yes. it worked.: 

Glance down at his notes; he learned from his mistake and actually took them in real time, which to be fair is less awkward when talking via communication-spell rather than standing awkwardly in a cave. (This is admittedly also a cave, but it's a furnished cave.) 

:He checked his immortality setup and says it's fine - er, sort of, it's not damaged yet but he looked closer than he might have otherwise, because of the warning, and thought someone had - been there.: 

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Jisa is abruptly not beaming anymore. 

:....So probably Brightstar already found it. But - hasn't decided to do anything with that yet? Maybe because something else hasn't happened yet?: 

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:Or because it makes a lot more sense for the Star-Eyed to tell him not to do anything obvious until something was lined up that would kill Leareth's - current body - ideally before he had any idea something was wrong, since that would have a major effect on what risks he's willing to take.: 

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:Well, at least that part seems a lot harder to set up now, so that's good.: 

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:Mmm: 

Possibly Blai is not on board with it being good that Leareth is now less likely to get permanently killed by the Velgarth gods? Possibly he thinks it would be kind of convenient for everyone if their evil archmage problem got solved that way, even if the evil archmage in question is Lawful.

Vanyel is actually a bit surprised at the extent to which, now that his uncertainties have mostly all resolved in the same direction, it feels like it would be an AWFUL and UNACCEPTABLE ending to all of this for Leareth to permanently die. 

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:You told him about the second prophecy?: Jisa prompts.

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:...Yes. He didn't have a theory that made sense of it. ...He did say I should absolutely not try to take over the Heartstone by making a baby god, even if I could conceivably make it work at all there are a lot of safeguards and I don't know how to build them and they're important. He said that in my position he would absolutely not go to Haven, even if I'm worried that something is going to happen where Final Striking Haven seems like the best option - even if I have some evidence to think that! - because, er, these weren't his words but it might be a way for a godplot to corner me into doing something incredibly stupid.: 

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:Well, that makes sense! I am on board with you not going to Haven if it means you might be somehow cornered into either destroying the city or making a baby god with no safeguards whatever that means!: 

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Nod. 

:I still feel like we must be missing something that would make sense of it, but - maybe it's something that was only going to happen if we didn't have Blai or any prophecy information?: Shrug. :I told Leareth we need to be in closer communication with Haven and asked if he objected to sending Blai, maybe because he had planned to invite you north. Leareth said he wouldn't object, if we thought it was the safest option to be in contact, though - he did point out that the Heralds barely know you. But it seems worth trying. ...Also the main think he would want to ask you north to learn more about is your world's gods, and it sounds like your goddess' holy book is in Haven right now anyway, so someone would need to go back at some point to retrieve it?: 

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:Yes, though I have two copies so if there's a local translation spell that works on text I wouldn't mind sending one up.:

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:If anyone knows a way to translate text in a language from another world with our magic, it would be Leareth, but - I don't really expect it's possible.: 

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:Hopefully we can send Blai to Haven and head off whatever horrible misunderstanding was going to happen otherwise and then have lots of time to translate it? Blai could just read it while a Thoughtsenser reads him, that would work.: 

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:It's fairly long but yes, I can do that.:

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Nod. 

:So one problem is that it would be good if we could be in regular contact, but you can't use the communications-artifact and it's way outside my Mindspeech range for contacting you - and I think I care the most about you being able to contact us if something happens. I had the thought that could Farsee a particular room regularly and you could write messages on the wall or something, except it's also outside my Farsight range.: And he would maybe slightly prefer if Blai could get messages to him even if the Heralds, say, decided to confine him in a cell for some inexplicable reason. 

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:Leareth would probably lend you a scrying-artifact?: 

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:Wouldn't be keyed to any of the shields, and I'm not sure how I feel about Blai writing messages to us on the wall of a room that anyone could be scrying if they felt like. - Blai, do you have any ideas?: 

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:My idea is that we should not rely on my writing messages if you do not have a translation spell that works on writing.:

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:You know, that's also a problem! You'd need to relay through a Mindspeaker and have them write it: and what if none of the Mindspeakers want to cooperate with that because everyone ends up very angry over some misunderstanding that hasn't occurred to him is possible yet, :and it's not ideal anyway.: 

He thinks. 

:...Feniss had an artifact to send Leareth a message, and she isn't Gifted. I think it only worked once, and I assume it was very costly to make or she would've had ten of them, and I'm - not actually sure if it was based on Thoughtsensing and language-independent? I could ask Leareth if he can lend us some, though.: 

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:We could send one of our Companions, they're Mindspeakers but they can't explode. And - it's outside even Companion Mindspeech range for a single jump, but Van, you must have almost that range with Yfandes and I find it hard to imagine the barrier prevents Mindspeaking your own Companion. If I send Enara through a Gate with Blai, and Yfandes travels overland south until she can reach Enara, she could be a relay in the middle?: 

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:That...might actually work. Are you sure you're up for being four hundred miles away from her?: 

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Jisa has been four hundred miles away from Treven for days and she hasn't complained ONCE. :I can manage. I think it might be a good idea anyway - that way Blai has someone reliable for translation.: 

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Enara herself jumps in. :And I can't write messages on a wall, but - I think Yfandes and I could figure out something visual, we were playing with codes that one time. So if the Mindspeech relay doesn't work, you can try finding me with a scrying-artifact and it shouldn't be obvious I'm sending a message at all to anyone else if I'm just tapping my hoof in patterns.: 

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This is starting to feel very convoluted but Vanyel nods slowly. 

:The other question is whether we try to negotiate this in Waymeet and have them Gate him to Haven once they're ready, or - pick a spot to Gate to that isn't too obtrusive and have Enara explain.: 

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:Um. I - feel kind of worried about relying on the mages stationed in Waymeet. I know a lot of places I could do a Gate behind shields and some of them Enara would fit in. ...Actually I should probably Gate them to just outside Haven, in case the Heralds are going way harder on security, I don't want my Gate to get blasted. But I know at least one Waystation with good enough shields, and they can ride the rest of the way in.: 

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Does Blai want to point out any holes in this plan? 

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Blai does not have enough context on the technical or political constraints here to point out anything less obvious than the fact that he cannot write Valdemaran.

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:Hopefully we can do something more sensible that involves the actual Mindspeech relay infrastructure, that's supposed to be what it's for! I can send one of the kyree to Waymeet to find out which Mindspeakers are there and then I really should be able to contact them from here, it's just not that doable when I don't know who to try for. It would just - be good if we had any hope of Blai getting a message out to us if, I don't know, there's another suspicious implausible attack and the Heralds jump to assuming Blai was undetectably mind-controlled to help Leareth do it and decide not to allow him any outside communications. Or something.: 

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:Is it in fact in their power to prevent me from mindspeaking Enara? ...Also. What are we going to owe the kyree for all their help and when does that come due?:

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:They could block you from Mindspeaking Enara if they actively wanted you out of communications - she should be keyed to most of the shields, but they could put up shields to block her specifically. I...am not sure we can prevent all the ways the Heralds could panic and try to prevent us from talking, though I can ask Leareth. But - I think in the worlds where this works, it's because we're in time to head off - whatever was going to happen - or because sending you de-escalates things enough that once you explain, they want us to be able to talk. I still think it's worth it.

- I don't think it makes sense to view the kyree's help as - transactional, like that? They’re helping Stef because he’s their friend. …Also I think it’s in their interest to avoid a war happening, given that it would run right over their territory.:

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He'll just have to ask Stef what the arrangement is by relay instead, then.

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Enara is trying to get in the habit of being a Blai translator and can totally ask Stef while Vanyel is going off to get in contact with Leareth again about backup communication methods.

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Stef is so bemused by the question!

:I mean, what would they expect us to owe them? They don’t use money. …I guess if they need our help with some horribly complicated problem later, they might expect more from us than they would have otherwise? But it’s not like I wouldn’t’ve done my best to help anyway if they asked.:

 

It only occurs to him after he’s said all that that this would probably have seemed like a perfectly sensible and important question several years ago. He’s - not sure what changed, or when, to make it feel so much less important to be worrying about the exact balance of favors owed.

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:Presumably the food comes from somewhere? They might want to borrow the use of thumbs? But you're the point person on that so if you're sure they don't and won't want anything that's fine.:

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:Oh, I hadn’t thought of that, I should ask if there’s anything I can do with thumbs while we’re stuck waiting anyway.:

Stef is pretty sure the food is stolen but Blai is going to be all weirdly prudish about that so he’ll continue not mentioning it.

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He absolutely would, yup.

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Vanyel is back shortly later.

:Leareth can give you a couple of the artifacts that Feniss had. You can send messages once for each one, about a minute long - you speak out loud to it but the spell itself imitates Mindspeech, the language barrier isn’t a problem. It should get through most types of shields. - It’s possible the Heralds will confiscate them if they’re very spooked, but I prefer having two methods to one, if something goes wrong with Yfandes being able to reach Enara. The messages will go to Leareth by default, it would take significantly more work to redo the artifacts to direct them to me, but I trust him to pass messages along.: 

Leareth had a second suggestion, which Vanyel is not going to tell Blai because, unlike Enara. he has minimal protection against the Heralds reading his mind, and this suggestion is mainly useful in the worlds where the Heralds end up actively hostile to letting Blai have any comms.

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:Okay, that's good. How are we collecting them?:

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:He’s going to deliver them to the spot we’d picked for exchanging letters. It’s not far. Jisa and Enara will go with some of the kyree scouts to pick them up.:

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:When do I need to be ready to depart?:

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:I think we’ll have everything within two candlemarks: which will already be after dark but that doesn’t matter too much if they’re Gating Blai to right outside Haven. :We could wait longer if we want to have Yfandes in position already - or for you to have a full set of spells - but I don’t know that we want to risk waiting any longer that we have to. Is there anything you need to do here to prepare?:

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:No, not especially, I wasn't kidnapped with many things I now need to pack; that mostly tells me I shouldn't go to sleep or anything right now.: Instead he'll Prestidigitate a chess set.

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Awww she’s going to miss what might be the last opportunity for a long time to play Blai’s neat game.

Jisa is a responsible grown adult and will go off on her important mission without complaining. 

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Stef is bored and would be happy to learn to play if Yfandes can relay for him so he can learn the rules! 

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He'll handicap himself appropriately for a novice opponent.

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Stef is intensely competitive but he's not going to be any good at chess when he literally just learned the rules, so yes, a handicap is appropriate. 

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Competitive people are fun! If he beats them they just keep coming back for more without him having to wheedle them or have something to punish them for!

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Stef was already very invested in the peace efforts but it's extra motivation that they need to resolve this so he can come back having thought about it a lot more - maybe he can teach Van and they can play against each other - and he can come back and WIN. 

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Jisa is back shortly after nightfall with two fist-sized quartz-and-metal artifact-focuses in a pouch for Blai. She can explain how to activate them; there's a loop of silver wire embedded in a groove, with a bead that can be grabbed, and he has to tug it free and twist it until it snaps, which will break the part of the set-spell that tells the artifact not to start working. At that point it will run down its stored mage-energy within about fifty seconds and will, during that time, replicate the form of a Thoughtsensing-based communication-spell, though Blai does need to speak out loud because...something something this is how the artifact knows what to send rather than trying to send literally everything in his surface thoughts.

Jisa would not have thought you could DO that. Apparently even for Leareth it's a very very very complicated working and Blai should keep in mind that each of these is, like, almost a year of work for one of a handful of mages who have the training to do it at all, all of whom are in high demand for a huge number of other projects – so, he should absolutely still send a message immediately if he judges it's relevant to de-escalating and time-sensitive and he's otherwise unable to get in contact. 

The message should not be considered to be particularly secure - some communication-spell variants have additional obfuscation but there's a limit to how much complexity you can cram into an artifact - but intercepting communication-spell messages in the middle is very difficult and would probably require that whoever was doing it already knew his location and approximately when he was going to send it, so he shouldn't worry too much about it. 

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A YEAR? Yikes. Scrolls don't take anywhere near that long. This is like fifty scrolls of Sending all glued together.

Is it insecure like it can be listened to or like it can be altered in transit, those are extremely different.

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It's really hard to make artifacts that un-Gifted people can use at all and extremely hard to imitate the receptive component of Thoughtsensing even in this low-resolution form. Jisa is impressed Leareth can do it at all. 

That’s a very important distinction! And no, it can’t be intercepted and sent onward in an altered form, or blocked (except for shields that block all magic of that kind in and out at the source, which Valdemar isn't known to have), just intercepted and listened in on. 

(The explanation she got was a lot more technical and was not exactly “it’s impossible”, but Leareth would not be able to do it and believes that past godplots would have looked very different if gods could interfere with mage-work in that fine-grained a way, which is enough for Jisa. She doesn't think Blai needs the ten-minute version.) 

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Okay. Fifty scrolls of Sending glued together, can be eavesdropped on including by methods that are not "mindread Blai" but that honestly doesn't seem like that weighty a concern here.

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Enara has her own setup; it took longer to place, which is why Jisa got to hang out asking questions for ten minutes. They're not mentioning it to Blai because part of the point here is that very shortly the Heralds will know everything he does, and - mostly they expect that to improve matters - but Leareth and Vanyel agreed it was worth having something in reserve that the Heralds wouldn't know to interfere with if they panic over something. 

She now has four tiny quartz talismans carefully embedded in each of her hooves. They're undetectable to mage-sight, unlike Blai's artifacts, which are glaringly obvious. They're a lot simpler; they only send one message each, set in advance, to be triggered by a particular Mindspeech command.

 

Left front hoof: to indicate that she is out of communication with Yfandes and not being provided with alternatives by the Heralds, and Blai isn't being allowed to use his comms artifacts or send a letter via Waymeet, but things are otherwise going fine. This amounts to "non-urgently requesting that Vanyel consider other methods to re-establish communication." 

Right front hoof: out of communication with Yfandes et cetera, things otherwise not going fine, urgently requesting that Vanyel and/or Leareth find her a way to get a message out and also try other methods to find out what's going on in Haven.

Left back hoof: out of communication with Yfandes et cetera, and also prevented from Mindspeaking Blai, meaning that she wouldn't necessarily know exactly how things are going, but this in itself wouldn't be a good sign. Requesting that Vanyel try to find out if Blai is okay and needs help. 

Right back hoof: she believes negotiations have irreparably broken down and she and/or Blai are in imminent danger. She should NOT activate this one unless she wants Leareth to try to rescue them directly from Haven, with all the attendant consequences. 

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They'll be arriving in a shielded Heralds' Waystation a couple of miles outside Haven; Enara can cover that distance quickly and also alert the Groveborn (Rolan, the somewhat unique Companion of the Monarch's Own, currently Dara, who Jisa can't remember if Blai has met) of their arrival. Probably the Heralds will sent a party out to meet them.

Yfandes decided to get a head start, but it's a long way, and hard going until she reaches Waymeet and the North Trade road. Once she's on the road she should make better time, and almost certainly be within range to reach Enara before midnight, which is around six candlemarks from now. 

Does Blai need anything else before Jisa does the Gate? 

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No, he's all set.

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Then Jisa will deliver them to outside Haven! 

It's going to set off a Web-alarm, but with the shielded room it should be a nonspecific enough alarm that no one will panic-blast it, and Enara will be in range of Rolan and able to explain before anyone has a chance to get too alarmed. That's the theory, anyway. They go through and the Gate is down again before Jisa has a chance to be affected by any of this. 

 

She's not even tired! Jisa loooooooooooooooves being a White Winds Adept and is going to go play with illusion-spells now; they've got a while to wait before they're likely to find out how it's going. 

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It's very cold and snowy but Blai has Endure Elements and Enara is a Companion, so neither of them should be too inconvenienced by this. 

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He can sit on Enara and go where she takes him without it being a problem that it's winter, yep.

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(It's pretty dark, can Blai do the thing where he makes his holy symbol glow again?) 

Enara continues to be very easy to ride even for someone inxperienced at riding horses, and can take him from the mostly-wooden barn/hut sort of building where they were dropped off back down a surprisingly recently-cleared trail to the main road, which is also impressively clear of snow. There's some traffic, even this late and with the wind whipping eddies of falling snow diagonally around them; mostly no one on foot, but even with the snow meaning they can only see twenty yards in either direction, they emerge onto the road in view of a covered wagon pulled by two placid plowhorses. 

 

...Enara trots for a minute or two and then stops. 

:Rolan wants us to wait here. I - guess they're sending someone out to escort us?: Her mindvoice is faintly uneasy, though. 

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He can actually make anything glow if the most convenient location for a lamp isn't "around her rider's neck", but sure, Light. :Should I dismount?:

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(Enara is not keeping that close track of Blai's exact spell capabilities, and a light around her rider's neck is pretty equivalent to a light in her rider's hand, which is how Jisa generally does mage-lights.) 

:I don't think you need to unless whoever comes to meet us asks you to.: He'll have a harder time getting back on her than Jisa would, especially with the ground being icy, and Enara feels like it would make the most sense for her to carry him in rather than making him walk a mile to the city wall and however much further to wherever they're actually going in Haven. 

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So he sits on her and waits.

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Back in the north, Stef is going to start whittling himself a set of pieces for Blai's game, since they don't have Blai there to make it with magic. 

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"Wait, hang on, I want to try - I'm supposed to be able to make illusions with physical substance that last for days now - let me try..." 

Jisa has a near-eidetic memory when she feels like it, thanks to mildly irresponsible use of Mindhealing on herself, and can start working on making an almost perfect replica of the gamepieces. Blai isn't here but she can play it with Stef now! 

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Vanyel paces and frets. 

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And Yfandes reaches the Valdemaran border. 

:Van? We...might have a problem I wasn't expecting.:

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That is OMINOUS and Vanyel doesn't like it!

:What: 

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:I think I'm locked out of the Web? I don't - Savil must have done something, but I didn't even know you could do that.: 

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Vanyel hadn't expected Savil to be going around directly modifying the Web at all! He's always been the one to do it. Before him, no one had modified it in eight hundred years. Savil could probably have the strength for it if she were doing it in concert with a few other Adepts, but - he's not even sure how you would go about revoking Web permissions for one specific Companion-Herald pair, let alone why

:That's - concerning.: 

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:I don't like it! ...It'll decrease my effective Mindspeech range, too, but - I think not by enough that our plan won't work at all.: A mental sigh. :There aren't any Herald-Mages in Waymeet to ask. Or anyone on the Senior Circle, which I suppose is reasonable, if they're expecting to be attacked from the north anytime. I don't know any of the Companions here well, and they won't tell me anything! I think the Senior Circle must have clamped down very hard on information security.: Pause. :Herald Shasmen is here and I think he's a strong enough Mindspeaker that you could reach him. Worth trying every few minutes - I think the Heralds up here must all be meeting behind bloody White Wind shields right now but they've got to use the privy at some point.: 

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Vanyel isn't hopeful. :I'll try.: 

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:I should make better time from here.: 

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Still at least two candlemarks. Maybe more like four, the weather isn't awful but it won't be safe for Yfandes to really push her fastest pace. 

Time to wait some more. And FRET. 

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Enara and Blai wait for about ten minutes by the side of the road, and are passed by a cart full of sacks of probably-grain and an elderly woman on a donkey who yells something at Blai about how he's not dressed for the weather, in Valdemaran so he won't actually understand it until Enara translates, by which point the woman is past them. 

And then a party comes out to meet them. There are several Heralds he hasn't met before, a dozen blue-uniformed Guards on regular horses, another four brown-robed people also on regular horses, a red-haired woman in green robes, and a Companion without a rider. 

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Enara seems disconcerted. 

:This - seems kind of unnecessary - they must be really on edge. And they've sent Melody, I guess to check you for hostile Mindhealing. Um. I sent Rolan the basics but he'll probably want to hear it from you -: 

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:Select Blai.: Somehow it's obvious in the Mindspeech that the riderless Companion is the one speaking. His mindvoice isn't quite like that of Yfandes or Enara; it has a ringing quality and feels less human. :What brings you here?: 

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:I was kidnapped and have been released and am here for a debriefing about the events that followed.:

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Rolan looks piercingly at him and does not say anything. 

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Enara is SO UNEASY. 

 

:I think something is wrong: she sends to Blai, privately. :Everyone is really tense and they're - not telling me why - maybe just try not to make any sudden moves...: 

 

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:Melody: Rolan sends. 

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:I think she's coming to check you for hostile Mindhealing - it's fine: it SHOULD be fine at least, :we know they're not going to find anything...: 

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Melody has her orders and is not happy about it. She is not even technically in Rolan's chain of command but she suspects it would - go badly - if she picked this exact moment to argue that. 

She approaches Blai, and on the way over she reads his mind.  

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He can hold so still and not cast Guidance even though he would rather like to. Sometimes you have to make somebody stand in the cold (at least he isn't cold) while you rustle up some people who have Detect Chaos and Detect Magic available to check them because it's been less than a month since there was a succubus sighting. It's probably like that. Van et al were also pretty concerned he'd been enchanted, it's clearly a live concern on this planet. Is he committing a faux pas by sitting on a Companion, is there a thing where you only do that in exceptional circumstances and he's just encountered a lot of those. What if Guidance-ing Jisa for her ritual thingy was actually a terrible plan and it will ruin it or disqualify her or something. What if lightning strikes Yfandes. What if the kyree were actually super resentful of all the help they offered and they're going to want something unconscionable or at an inconvenient time.

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Yfandes????? 

 

That seems important, actually, this was already confusing and that seems like it could be a key - something - but it's not like Rolan is wrong, that the priors on what's happening here are...very bad. 

She touches Blai's arm and, without warning to either Enara or Blai, uses Mindhealing to slam him into unconsciousness.

(One of the White Winds mages with specific training is feeding her node-energy and she's putting in a lot more force than she should have to, because multiple people commented before Blai is weirdly hard to mindread, and who knows if Leareth could have put additional shields on him.) 

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Melody tries to catch him before he can fall off Enara's back but he's heavy. 

:Could use some help over here -: 

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Should she run - she can't run with Blai, it hadn't occurred to her to suggest he belt himself in because why would it - and also it's objectively stupid, Rolan can run faster than her. 

:Why–: she starts. 

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Some of the Guards will dive in to help catch Blai before he topples off onto the road. 

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:Are you: Rolan sends coldly, :going to do anything ill-advised.: 

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Why is this happening????? Enara had considered a variety of ways this could go wrong but for some reason it hadn't occurred to her that they would incapacitate Blai before even hearing him out. 

:We have a really important message–: 

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Rolan is now shielding her out entirely. 

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Something is wrooooooooong and the fact that they're refusing to talk to her either indicates that they must be worried Leareth got his hands on Jisa and may have compromised her and/or Enara. 

Should she use any of her talismans - the issue is that 'out of contact with Yfandes' isn't even informative, they're expecting her to be in range in two to four candlemarks. She's technically out of contact with Blai right now but they haven't actually separated the two of them, and it's possible they just want to get Blai to a secure location before checking him for compulsions and Mindhealing (and are in the meantime applying the maximum possible level of paranoia.) 

 

It feels like an incredibly doomy start but - she can't unsend any messages she sends now. It's entirely possible they'll put her in a cell-or-whatever with Blai and let him wake up once he's confirmed free of Mindhealing and she'll be able to update Yfandes normally, and - the way to get the highest chance of that is to not escalate. 

She will meekly follow Rolan. 

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The Guards get Blai draped over one of the horses, and Melody has to dismount in the snow and walk alongside because she needs to be in near-constant contact to make sure he's going to stay out. (He fought her harder than she expected - not in a way that even felt like shields - and she's worried that if he wakes up and is forewarned he could get luckier a second time.) 

Fortunately the walk is only as far as the nearest structure that one of the mages can do a short-range Gate from, and then they'll bring Blai directly to a Work Room. Someone must have used the last ten minutes to haul in a mattress and put it on the stone floor, and the Guards slide Blai's limp body off the horse, carry him through, and lay him out. 

There's even a stool for her. 

None of this actually makes Melody happier about the situation, but she sits down and fully opens her Sight. 

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(Enara is not invited through the Gate. She can be escorted on foot - well, on hoof - by Rolan personally and a posse of mages and Heralds.

...She does recognize the Work Room, though, and Jisa has used it before and arranged for Enara to be keyed to the shields. It would be hard work, but she could contact Blai in theory, if he were conscious.)

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A tapestry is normally woven with the warp threads under tension. The tension isn't bad for it; it's what keeps the whole thing from falling apart, keeps it organized and straight while it's being knotted into its final form, at which point a normal tapestry would be given a border or a fringe or something and be ready to hang.

This mostly-red tapestry has not been taken off the loom, and doesn't look like it's ever supposed to be; but a big chunk of the loom broke at some point and was later replaced. He's been diligently at work putting everything square again with the new heddles. Large black and grey bits are in the process of being unpicked and replaced with white and gold. It looks like the natural sort of reweaving that takes place when someone has a major worldview shift, though, not artificial.

It has some beads sewn on it, and they look in-place where they sit, but the material's not native.

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It's a candlemark later. 

A Healer is keeping Blai unconscious (the transition seems to have worked fine, though who knows if he could have flung it off if he had a chance to fight it.) Melody is in an adjacent Work Room, because they didn't want her going far enough away from him to reach any meeting-room that was actually comfortable. 

She's not sure she has ever been this exasperated in her entire life. 

"Look," she's saying to a visibly exhausted Dara. "I recognize his mind is weird, but we have every reason to think it already was when Jisa had a look at him before either of them had even left Haven. Yes, I wish she had bounced it to me at the time or at least written down a clear description, but - we know she saw some kind of unusual structure but decided it was intrinsic to him, not imposed from the outside. Which my Sight agrees with. The part that isn't native isn't directly tied to beliefs or memories or motivations, it's - an action he can take, I think. It makes perfect sense for it to be his spells. Also, did you not hear me the first time when I said nothing looks new to my Sight? The modification to the structure is newish but it's - months old, I would say, not days. Any Mindhealing that was done to him was fully removed and it's all had time to settle by now, which is exactly what we would expect from the timeline we got in the message asking for help." 

And, yes, it looks unfortunate that she kept that from them on Jisa's instruction for multiple candlemarks. In hindsight, maybe that was a mistake. Or maybe it wasn't, with what they knew at the time, no one had been expecting - well, any of this. 

 

(Melody would be having emotions right now if she hadn't put half a dozen strong redirects on herself because now is absolutely not a time when she can afford to have emotions.) 

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"...Then maybe it's a Wild Gift that you can't detect. Or maybe it wasn't a Gift at all, and Leareth just convinced him." 

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"Convinced him to turn a blind eye to Van's death?" A sensation like a mental static-electricity zap, as the redirect catches something that would otherwise resolve into pain. "I really, really don't see it." 

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"Maybe he doesn't know! He might even think they've been in contact - Leareth probably could impersonate Van well enough to fool him, he's not a Thoughtsenser and he's only known Van for a few days - and there's apparently something that looks like a Companion and claims to be Yfandes running around Waymeet for some goddamned reason, so -" 

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Melody closes her eyes. Reinforces the redirect currently under strain. "I don't - think that we can confidently say we know what's going on there," she says, carefully. 

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"It makes sense that Leareth could construct something that looked like a Companion but couldn't fake the link to the Web."

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"Rolan said Enara is really Enara, right?" 

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"Yes, but - the thing that happened with Yfandes four years ago, happened to her in the time since she was last in Haven. She's - she can break the rules now." 

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Good. 

It would not help this conversation to say that out loud and Melody doesn't. 

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"Rolan has a bad feeling." 

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"I am entirely in agreement that, one way or another, the situation we're in now is very very bad. I just - don't think we know what way this points until we talk to him." 

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A long pause.

“…Information is always worth having.”

Van (flinch) used to say that and - he didn’t even get that from Leareth, it’s from Seldasen on ethics. A Herald who lived in a difficult and confusing time in Valdemar’s history, though surely not like this.

Sigh. “And hearing what he has to say is - more information than not, even if we shouldn’t trust it. But I want you to block the area you think is his spells before we wake him up. And be ready to set-command him not to run.”

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Is that really necessary! It puts the conversation on such a hostile footing and Melody isn’t any good at hostile.

But it seems better than arguing in circles for another candlemark before talking to him. “All right.”

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Blai will wake up another half-candlemark later, with a headache, and slightly stiff like he’s been lying in one position for a long time. The pouch with the communication-artifacts is no longer with him. 

He’s also blocked from using his spells, though this won’t feel like anything unless he tries it.

He’s on a mattress in a stone room, not one he’s been in before. Enara isn’t there.

:I’m sorry: the red-haired woman from before says in Mindspeech. She’s perched on a stool a few feet away; one of the brown-robed people is also nearby, leaning against the wall with the posture of someone on watch duty. :This is probably excessive. Do you need water or anything right now?:

She is also still reading his mind.

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:I: - can't cast Create Water. :Oh no, how bad is it, are you sure you should be letting me talk at all?:

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:I just spent a candlemark winning an argument on whether to let you talk so we can find out what in the world is happening right now. You were dropped off via a Gate just outside Haven, Enara reported to Rolan that you had a message: from VANYEL, which was the second baffling and concerning element after Blai turning up with no warning in the first place, :and you said, quote, 'I was kidnapped and have been released and am here for a debriefing about the events that followed', do you remember that?:

Pause.

:...As far as I could tell there was no Mindhealing on you except what I did just now. If someone from Leareth's side has a Wild Gift: and you're aware of it and allowed to talk about it which seems incredibly unlikely, :that would be good to know.: 

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:Yes, I remember that. I am not aware of anyone in his employ having a 'Wild Gift' but I don't recognize the phrase. Did Enara already catch you up? She should know virtually everything I do but if you wanted more detail on the prophecies or something it would be reasonable to want it firsthand.:

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:I have not been caught up.: It's possible Rolan has talked to Enara at this point but if he has he didn't want Melody included. Fair enough to get the story separately, it might let them put the two versions together and find any inconsistencies. 

:What we know is that in the morning, about two and a half days ago - er, it's a couple of candlemarks before midnight now, you arrived this evening after nightfall - you were kidnapped. Several candlemarks later we received a message in cipher via the Mindhealers' station in Waymeet, asking for me - no explanation of why but Jisa's guess was that they had rescued you. Jisa went instead.:

:That same evening Vanyel arrived in Waymeet and dropped off an un-Gifted woman claiming to be Leareth's messenger, as well as a letter in which he said Leareth had released you, claiming the kidnapping was a mistake and he didn't want a war and also disclaiming his involvement in the attacks on Haven and k'Treva. Vanyel claimed that Jisa had verified your mind hadn't been - messed with - and Vanyel said he was planning to negotiate for a meeting with Leareth where you could use your world's magic to verify his intentions. The messenger seemed to believe all of that was true.: 

And the next night, just over a day ago now, the Death Bell rang for Vanyel and the world shattered into a thousand pieces and nothing is ever going to be all right Melody cannot actually think that thought, she has redirects. Their tentative hopes were thoroughly extinguished, stick with that.

:What is your understanding of what happened after that point?: 

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:I'd been released from Leareth's custody accompanied by Feniss, the messenger, after Leareth verified to his satisfaction that neither I nor Iomedae were responsible for the attack on k'Treva. Vanyel took custody of me. He wanted a Mindhealer to check me for enchantment; Jisa arrived to perform this office. My recollection is that I was cleared at the time of enchantment - would it be more efficient if I gave this report without hedging for the possibility that I am at this moment still under mind-altering effects -:

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:Why in the world would Leareth think you– Nevermind.: She already knows what Leareth wanted them to think the answer was; she helped question Feniss, which was awful in an entirely different way. :Later. Yes, that sounds more efficient.: 

This poor man. He almost certainly doesn't know Vanyel is dead or it would have come up in his thoughts, and - whatever damage Leareth has been able to use him to do, none of this is his fault. Melody feels really bad about the blocks on his god-magic, however sensible a precaution it is.

(...And maybe it's not what it looks like, somehow, and there's still hope Melody can't think that thought properly either, it's too close to Vanyel.) 

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:So I was cleared of enchantment and Vanyel, Jisa, and I discussed what could possibly be going on and what should be done about it. We speculated that it's possible the Star-Eyed Goddess herself false-flagged k'Treva. It came up that Companions come into existence pre-enchanted and have mental blocks about some related topics and this might be wedging Valdemar into a war footing. Leareth was interested in me separately from his suspicion about k'Treva because he had been working on a plan to create a god but had reservations about the plan to fuel it with blood-magic; on my planet ascension is, not routine, but repeatably achieved. It seemed likely that communication-impeding emergencies were being manufactured by divine intervention and the ability to exchange messages needed to be drastically overdetermined to not be sabotaged. I wanted to verify Leareth's alignment - being Lawful, and especially being Lawful in a context without any external force incentivizing or verifying that up until this point, seems to me a very strong signal of the ability to make sincere solemn oaths - and then secure some assurances from him that he would not create an Evil god nor ascend while Evil. So we needed to wait until the next morning for me to prepare more spells, and in the meantime I cast Minor Prophecy with Jisa as the subject. I saw a meeting between our group, and a kyree, with Leareth and his Mindhealer, in a mountain pass, attempting a spell Jisa has not in fact invented yet to secure an oath of nonbetrayal between Vanyel and Leareth, followed by an interrupting gryphon attack and a Final Strike. - some of that is me retrospectively editorializing, at the time I didn't confidently recognize Leareth by face and so on. Jisa sent Brightstar a message by elemental courier, and we sent Feniss to Waymeet. Stef, inspired by the prophecy, called the kyree he knows for help. Is there anything I should clarify so far?:

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:That fleshes out some details, thank you.: So far, no conflict with anything they already knew. :I don't think anything so far needs clarifying. What happened next? Especially the next day and evening?: 

 And she's going to read his mind even more closely, looking for - discontinuities, jumps, anything in his thoughts that feels like forced illogical leaps he's unable to notice - if there is a Wild Gift involved here it could be one that replaces memories, Katha did some digging and thought that was compatible with obscure legends though the legends might still just refer to ordinary Mindhealing. Or, you know, be entirely made up. 

The more obvious theory is that they were separated at some point - probably for what seemed to Blai like entirely innocent unsuspicious reasons - and if he interacted with Van face to face at all after that point, it was with an imposter? 

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:Vanyel and a kyree went to Waymeet to deliver Feniss; the rest of us camped out under a warming spell. Then lightning struck a tree; it caught fire and fell down on Jisa and Stef, and I pulled them out and healed them and Jisa and I put out the fire. I used a summon to discharge the traps in Leareth's nearby records cache and we went to ground in there, though it took a little while before Jisa could Gate the Companions in.: Then Stef made incredibly awkward conversation. Does he have to cover this part. He probably does or it will just somehow come out at an even worse time. Being on a planet where hostile gods have prophecy is awful actually. :To pass time time Stef asked questions about my personal history. I was previously a cleric of a different god, an Evil one who tyrannized the country in which I grew up until its recent conquest and His subsequent likely-related budget reallocation which resulted in Him dropping all of His clerics on Golarion at the same time. Iomedae selected me some weeks afterward. ...anyway, then Vanyel returned and sent Leareth a letter by one of the letter-carrying creatures Leareth has. We relocated to the kyree cave. I used up my Aura Sight rather than let it go unused and planned to prepare Detect Law instead at dawn; it takes up a lower circle. I cast another prophecy, on Vanyel. I saw him approach the Heartstone room but find himself shielded out, have a brief conversation with someone, and then Final Strike. Vanyel attempted to interpret the vision on Owl's Wisdom, and then Jisa took the other one - incidentally she wanted me to try healing the King, though obviously if I am considered compromised you shouldn't let me anywhere near him let alone with my spells loose.:

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Lightning struck a tree and it happened to fall on them – okay, weird and suspicious but Melody can't see what it would possibly have to do with anything else here. 

...the Evil god thing is - a distraction right now - also one that both probably explains the recent changes to his mind-structure and is probably entirely unrelated to anything that happened in the last several days. Tantras is going to fixate on why it means they can't trust Blai not to voluntarily side with Leareth and Melody is already wincing internally about how incredibly tedious that argument will be. 

- and more events. Vanyel gets back - was it still Vanyel? They're sure it was still Vanyel in Waymeet but if he had to travel back, the substitution could have happened then - it would be still be most of a day too early to coincide with the Death Bell, but Leareth could have snatched him then and spent the day interrogating him before his death. 

They relocate to the kyree cave, apparently? She should clarify if that was outside of Valdemar. Also at this point she's entirely lost track of when things were supposed to be happening and what, if anything, was happening shortly after nightfall yesterday.

- he saw WHAT in a prophecy spell on Vanyel??? 

 

Melody rubs her eyes. She can't even come up with a theory right now, but that's not her job, her job is to get the basic facts - well, claims - and bring them to the Heralds and end up mediating an endless frustrating debate.

:...Sorry, I think I've lost track of the timeline a bit. When approximately was all of this happening? You went to the kyree caves - yesterday? Morning or afternoon? Was the prophecy spell on Vanyel: only a slight hitch in her mindvoice, :also still yesterday?: 

A pause. :And was Vanyel - acting off, at any point? Like something was wrong, or - just not like himself?: 

(Melody is very good at controlling her expressions for a Valdemaran, but she's not Chelish, and it's going to be fairly clear to Blai that there's something around this topic she's upset about.) 

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:I haven't known him for very long but had no reason to suspect any issues, and didn't see anything with Detect Magic. He detected Neutral Good to Aura Sight. Jisa and Yfandes didn't appear to notice any problems. We moved to the kyree cave yesterday, late afternoon, it was dark by then; this morning I was awoken before dawn for spell reasons, and that's when I cast the prophecy on Vanyel and also did the Aura Sight.:

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That's...baffling, mostly. The Death Bell would have rung - sometime around when they were relocating to the caves or just afterward?

And the prophecy spell was cast the next day. Vanyel was dead, and so it cannot possibly have been him who "detected" "Neutral" "Good" whatever that means, or who CALLED A FINAL STRIKE ON HAVEN (????) in a prophetic vision. Unless– (a thought that doesn't really go anywhere, just bounces around in a brain-zappy sort of way.) 

 

She nods levelly and does not look nearly as confused and disturbed as she feels. :You were still with Jisa and Stef and both Companions, at this point?:

Is Blai thinking anything that might possibly be more helpful?

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:That's right.: Did a Vanyel-looking person show up here while he was accounted for up north? Does this planet even have Alter Self? Or maybe he tried to report in about being AWOL and they're just really upset about him being AWOL and wondering if he got enchanted into it. When Blai's soldiers weren't where they were supposed to be it was usually because they were drunk or something so enchantment would not be his first guess but enchantment would certainly have been one way for it to happen. He has a little trouble picturing Vanyel carousing and getting up to intoxicated shenanigans - if he gets drunk he'd be the maudlin type, Blai thinks.

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All right, not very clarifying. Except that Blai isn't even considering the possibility that the Vanyel in the north with him wasn't Vanyel, so it must have been convincing. Also it's occurring to her now that one way to get a prophecy result that bizarre could be because it wasn't really Vanyel, and the vision actually showed the imposter acting out future orders, in which case that fact is very concerning and she should report it immediately. 

...As soon as she's caught up on the events Blai remembers happening, which may or may not be what really happened. She doesn't want to get distracted and miss something else of that magnitude. 

:Right. So we're up to a candlemark before dawn this morning. What happened next?: 

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:We had a meeting with Leareth after my spells were ready. Not in the pass. For gryphon reasons. I confirmed he's Lawful - there are ways to fool that reading with Golarion magic but I would not expect him to have been able to do so without previous exposure to the spellfamily, especially not without registering to Detect Magic, which I was also using before I had to drop concentration to cast the new spell. Vanyel cast a truth spell on him also. He swore some things to the effect that he had not lied to Vanyel in the past, did not arrange for the monster attack or the explosion at k'Treva, and wasn't planning on starting a war in the next year. He said he expected to, but did not commit to, call off the plan to reassess for another fifty years. I asked for his oath that he would not create an Evil god nor personally ascend while Evil. He pointed out that he didn't know what the criteria for Evil were, which I should plausibly have anticipated, it's probably not obvious from here at all that Pharasma can be relied on in that sort of assessment... He did say he swore he didn't intend to create an Evil god; and swore not to become a god he predicted would act in ways most Velgarth philosophies would construe as evil; and swore to use Golarion mechanisms for checking if one he meant to create would be, though he did not swear to abide by the result. I told him about the spell Commune - I can't cast it - which directly asks questions of gods. Leareth said he'd trust Vanyel to judge if the risk of creating an evil god was too high and that he thought he'd also trust Vanyel to delegate that responsibility but did not have a phrasing he was willing to swear to. We talked about why he wanted to create a god at all - I'm not unsympathetic to the idea if you can be sure it won't be Evil, after all, Iomedae is ascended and in life her patron was also an ascended god. I cast Minor Prophecy again with Leareth as the subject. It showed someone interfering with some sort of extraplanar apparatus related to his immortality in the form of a magical bird. This derailed our tentative attempts to establish communications and possibly emplace me as a - Golarion consultant and interplanetary travel passenger - though Leareth did leave some written instructions and some artifacts behind before Gating away.

Our party then returned to the kyree cave. I volunteered to go to Haven so as to make it harder to cut off communication,: and he wasn't creative enough, because apparently he's suspected of being terribly enchanted and they're not letting him get a drink or Guidance himself and he's been out for hours not communicating at all, hopefully they got all this from Enara already and he's being redundant. :and, the prophecy of the Final Strike weighing on us, it mattered also that I am not able to explode, and also because my holy book is here and if I were going to return north I'd want to bring at least one of the copies, I do have two. I helped Jisa with her ritual test with a lot of Guidance castings while Vanyel figured out the communication spell. More artifacts from Leareth were delivered, I seem to have been relieved of the ones I had, they were supposed to deliver almost a minute of spoken yet language-independent message once activated. Yfandes went to Waymeet on foot. Jisa gated Enara and myself to an outpost and we rode in, and that brings us to my - arrest?:

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Melody's head hurts. 

(In hindsight, trying to have this conversation with a lot of redirects in place that make the...subject matter...hard to think about, because she can't trust herself not to burst into tears without that, was - a dubious plan.) 

...She wishes she could feel more like it's not her job to figure out what this just means, just to get the facts and communicate them clearly to the Heralds. She - doesn't believe that, though. It's hard to imagine a worse situation for everyone to have to make high-stakes decisions in. 

It...makes...sense...that Leareth would want them to receive this report, if he wanted Valdemar to not go to war? It's just. Baffling that he might think it could work in any possible world. Did he think the Death Bell wouldn't ring if Vanyel died behind good enough shields, or something? 

A suspected Yfandes-imposter was seen in Waymeet, which is a very confusing level of dedication to realism. Did Leareth think he could fool the Web? It's - a pat story - to imagine Leareth was slightly too overconfident in being able to fool the upgraded Web - maybe he could successfully get things past it before Vanyel built the Heartstone - but Melody rotates it in her head and is not, actually, sure she can buy it. 

And there's the deeper level of confusion – why would Leareth dedicate so much effort to putting off a war once he had already decided to kill Vanyel? It can't hold forever, and you would think now, while Valdemar is still frantically scrambling with the logistics of getting their allies in place, would be a much better time for him to strike than a month from now.

 

She rubs her forehead, abruptly exhausted beyond reason. :We - have reason to think Leareth did something to your head, yes. I am sorry about blocking your magic. I think we can't afford not to but that doesn't make it any more pleasant. I need to report what you've told us, it could be important, but - do you need anything first? We can bring you food and water.: 

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:If you judge it is not dangerous to do so I would appreciate my holy book. Is Enara clear? Did you get corroboration from her?:

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Melody doesn't know how to answer that question, and right at this moment is too tired to figure out a graceful non-answer, so she's just - ungracefully going to ignore it, apparently. 

:We can get you your holy book.: She can't see how that's possibly a risk, it's from his world and was left behind in Savil's quarters before Blai had been involved with Leareth in any way, and - at least he'll have something to do alone in the room. :I'll have a trainee send it over.: 

 

She wants to apologize, even though she already apologized for the magic-blocking thing. She feels like they owe this man an apology for something a lot bigger than that, but she can't personally give an apology on behalf of, what, the whole world? And it's not like it would fix it. 

She goes. 

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Enara has been patiently checking every couple of minutes for a while whether Blai was awake yet, and - for the last half-candlemark - whether Melody was still in the room with him.  It's not like she's really doing anything illicit, by talking to him through shields she's keyed to, when she was sent here in the first place to be a translator for him. But it seemed better not to push it and Mindspeak him while someone was almost certainly actively reading his mind. And he probably didn't need the distraction. 

 

...And now he seems to be alone. 

:Blai? Are you all right?: 

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:Hello, Enara. They think I've been enchanted. If you're clear you should probably make your own calls without reference to mine.:

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:...No, if it's you then it's both of us. They're - I don't know what they think happened, no one will tell me, but they've shut me in a barn and Rolan must have ordered everyone not to talk to me. Rolan did get my report, but not - not like he believed me.: 

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:Oh. They've taken my communicative artifacts, so I don't have those. And my spellcasting's blocked. So I think it's probably pretty serious.:

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:It's not midnight yet. I'm still expecting Yfandes to be in range in the next candlemark. And they're still letting me talk to you, though - admittedly I'm not sure if that was deliberate or an oversight.: 

She's not going to mention her own contingencies, or the Heralds will know about it as soon as Melody goes back in to question Blai more. 

:I think something really bad happened here. Everyone is - panicking, but not just that, everyone is grieving - I passed a few of the Heralds when they were bringing me in. Something is really, really wrong. ...And Rolan was being strange when he questioned me. I'm not sure if he thinks Leareth has undetectable mind-control on both of us or if we've just been - tricked about something - and I wish I knew what he thinks we've been mind-controlled or tricked about.: 

Pause. 

:We didn't hear about anything awful happening in Haven, but - we might not have. If - if it's true that Leareth was tricking us somehow. He was the one who had scrying-coverage of Haven, Van were trusting him to report if something happened...: 

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:The woman who took my report wanted to know if Vanyel seemed like himself, I don't know quite what that was about. It sounded like Feniss reached her destination, at least.:

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:Rolan wanted a whole timeline of when we were with Van and Stef versus separated from them. And seemed to care a lot about exactly what was happening at sundown yesterday. I was guessing that whatever went wrong in Haven, it happened then, but it doesn’t explain what he thought it had to do with us, we weren’t even within Valdemar’s borders—:

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It’s a trainee from Healers’, with a tray of food and water he leaves in the corner, and also both of Blai’s copies of the Acts of Iomedae, which he diffidently holds out. 

(He’s not a Mindspeaker and has no way to actually communicate.)

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Blai does try thinking thank you at him but if it doesn't work it doesn't work. He sits up to accept the books and tray. :I had the thought that maybe someone purporting to be Vanyel was here at the same time, but I have no idea if that's even a thing magic does here.:

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:White Winds has illusions that don’t show up to mage-sight and are indistinguishable from reality to all the senses, if an Adept is skilled enough. That’s what Jisa was so excited about. But you couldn’t hide it in Mindspeech contact from anyone who knew him well enough, I wouldn’t think. I suppose if a Vanyel impersonator showed up, carefully avoided any Mindspeakers, and...did some horrible atrocity, that would explain how everyone is reacting.: 

A pause. 

:...It feels like a godplot. I mean. It also feels like I'm losing my mind, but - we expected something to go wrong in Haven. And one explanation is that Leareth mind-controlled us after all and messed with our memories, but - the other explanation is that that Star-Eyed arranged this. Whatever 'this' is.: 

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:I mean, I can try praying, I think that's fine even under the assumption that we're enchanted, but I don't know if Iomedae has any ability to project power on this planet other than through me, at all.:

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Enara would have preferred some more...active...action to take, but this doesn't quite justify using any of her talismans. 

:I think we should be as cooperative as possible and share as much information as they're willing to hear. Hopefully someone can - put together the picture, one way or another. And praying can't hurt.:  

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Clumsy attempt at a mental nod. He puts away the food efficiently and gets to it. The whole report, just like he gave it to the redhead and then some. If Iomedae has no guidance he is ready to stay in this room until they've figured out how to make him safe to release. If it's worth a miracle he will try to make it go as far as possible. If it's worth a miracle that doesn't directly involve Blai, like if She just wants to send Leareth a lantern archon or something, he stands ready to be collateral damage should Valdemar decide they're hostile to Heaven.

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Enara mostly isn't trying to watch his thoughts - it feels private and also it's bloody hard work through the shields - but there's something beautiful in it that she hadn't expected. 

She paces in an unlit barn and waits. 

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It's almost midnight. Yfandes is behind where she was hoping to be, the weather is bad, but she just passed the fork in the road leading to Westmark. Halfway. Two hundred miles in a little over five candlemarks. 

She's almost certainly been within range to get Rolan's attention for the last couple of candlemarks. The problem is that after how everyone reacted in Waymeet, she - would rather Enara is the first one she contacts in Haven. She has a feeling that being locked out of the Web makes her seem very odd to other Companions. 

(It's an empty blind spot in the back of her head. It feels wrong.) 

She can still reach Vanyel, but effortfully for both of them; she's dropped to checking in once every ten minutes. It's late, and she's badly hoping she can get a report passed along soon so Van can get some sleep

 

There's a surprising amount of traffic, given the late hour and horrible not-quite-blizzard. Mostly it looks like merchant traffic - maybe grain prices are soaring in Waymeet, which suddenly has at least four times its usual population - but she just passed a family traveling together for some reason, an old woman and a child on a donkey, and a man and slightly older child on foot. Maybe they expected to make better time until the snowstorm hit? Yfandes is kind of worried about them, but - no time. 

She tries to reach for Enara again, and - almost - a feeling like mental fingertips catching a wisp of air displaced by an object not quiiiiite in reach - 

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And then an overladen dead tree branch breaks under the weight of snow and crashes to the ground just wrong, near the top of the steep half-denuded hillside on her right, and the ground shivers, and a boulder tilts and then rolls, and the hillside creaks and then a mass of snow and ice slowly starts to slide. 

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The thing is that it doesn't happen quickly, at first, and - Yfandes is used to the Web, a whisper in the back of her mind, nudging, warning. 

She doesn't hear it over the wind until several seconds in, and then the first thing she thinks of is the family - the child - she just passed them, they can't be more than a hundred yards behind her. 

She turns back and breaks into a full gallop and -

- is pretty sure even as she does that it's a mistake. 

 

If the gods kill children in an attempt to get at her, just to block their last-ditch attempt at peace...

:AVALANCHE: she screams to them in Mindspeech. :The children - I can -: 

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The young man is frozen in panic when she reaches them, but the old woman on the donkey is surprisingly calm. She has the eyes of someone who's seen - 

"Bert, you idiot, boost the lad up and run for your life. - Deller, hold your sister." 

And then Yfandes has a boy of maybe eight in her saddle, wide-eyed, clumsily trying to cling to a toddler in his lap. 

The woman doesn't thank her, or ask where her Herald is, just jerks her chin in a wordless questioning gesture. Which way should we run? 

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South. 

She runs. Not, quite, as fast as she could without the children. She doesn't have the Web to draw on for an extra boost. 

 

:Van: 

Nothing. She wasn't focusing enough on it or putting enough into the link and - she's not sure she can afford the distraction of trying again - 

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She shouldn't have gone back.

She should have left the children to die and made it out ahead of the avalanche and GOTTEN COMMUNICATIONS BACK. Almost nothing else matters, next to that. 

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She knows they aren't going to make it and she reaches ahead, instead. 

 

:ROLAN AVALANCHE NORTH TRADE ROAD BY WESTMARK SEND HELP THERE ARE CHILDREN–: 

 

And then the snow hits her like a living thing and for a moment she's almost swimming in it and then it closes over her head and - 

 

 

- pain - 

 

 

- nothing. 

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Somehow, despite the awful suspense of waiting, Vanyel managed to doze off. It's late, they were up today a candlemark before dawn, and it's not like there's been much time in the last several days when he wasn't on some background level terrified. It starts to become the new normal after a while. 

 

If Yfandes has time to call for help, he's not receptive enough to pick up from two hundred miles away, and he doesn't hear it. 

 

He only feels it when it's too late and she's gone. 

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There's a howling emptiness in the back of his mind. 

It hurts just differently enough from the last howling emptiness he spent eighteen years learning to bear that he - can't, actually, think around it, for a long time, even though you would really think that he would know how to do that by now. 

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"Van - Van - what is it, what's wrong -" Vanyel isn't answering and he isn't moving and something is wrong, and Stef doesn't want to leave him but he's not a Mindspeaker and Jisa is three cave-rooms over soaking in the hot springs. 

He gets up and runs. 

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Jisa sprints over naked and soaking wet and before she even reaches the room she knows exactly what's wrong. 

(And has to fight down several entire seconds of gibbering panic because she is four hundre miles away from both people soulbonded to her and that could happen to either of them - both of them - at any time - what if the Heartstone explodes, that can't be what hit Yfandes but whatever did hit Yfandes was almost certainly the Star-Eyed's work. Maybe a Vkandis collaboration.) 

- focus. This is not about her.

"Yfandes is dead." Her voice doesn't sound like it belongs to her. "We're - we're not going to be able to reach Enara."

As though that's the most important part of this situation, but the absurd thing is that maybe it is, and if Vanyel were capable of processing anything right now she thinks he would agree. 

 

 

...Jisa has spent the last several years of her life desperately clawing her way toward being - capable, strong, recognized as an adult - and this might be the first time ever that the quiet voice in her head is whimpering, I'm not grown-up enough for this. 

"I. I don't think Van's. Up for getting the comms spell to Leareth. But we need to warn him. If, if this happened, then - I think there must be something the Star-Eyed really didn't want us to know. She was almost in range." 

Jisa wants her mother, which is objectively stupid of her brain, Shavri can't get on a comms spell to Leareth either. 

"...Stay with him," she tells Stef, absently. "He needs you there. I'm going to go learn the spell figure out how the artifacts work."

She really hopes she can manage to direct the spell off, you know, having about as much secondhand knowledge of Leareth as anyone can have about anyone. She's never actually met him. 

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It's a candlemark after midnight and Enara really cannot justify waiting any longer. Something is delaying Yfandes, and that means she doesn't know when they'll have any opportunity for contact. 

She's going to trigger the talisman for 'out of contact and things are not going fine', which is more or less all the information she has anyway

 

 

- is Blai still alone? Yes, good - well, not really good, it's now been like two candlemarks since Melody left and it's the middle of the night and what if the Heralds just leave them here until morning without resolving anything - but she can talk to him. 

:Blai? Wanted to warn you that I still can't reach Yfandes. I don't know what delayed her, so she could catch up any minute, but - I think we have to assume it could be interference by the Star-Eyed.: 

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:I have a Suppress Charms and Compulsions prepared. Is there a good way to propose that I be allowed to cast that and only that, to see if it affects anything? Maybe while I'm under a pile of other Herald-approved enchantments to demonstrate its effectiveness?:

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:I definitely think you should point it out to Melody whenever she's back, she's - most likely to be sensible about it, I think. Would it suppress a Truth Spell? That's the only 'enchantment' that I think is really Herald-approved except in - bizarre circumstances.: Like this one. :I suppose Melody could put a block of some kind that doesn't affect your magic, just as a test, though - it's not clear to me that it would affect Mindhealing, which isn't a charm or a compulsion. Though I don't know how anything from your world works.: 

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:Truth spells on Golarion qualify as compulsions, yes. You don't have anyone you can talk to to see about getting this checked sooner? I don't know if I'm expecting her back tonight and should sleep soon if I'm not definitely waiting up for something.:

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:...I'm sure there's someone I can Mindspeak. I hadn't been because - clearly they're not supposed to be talking to me - but it's not like Rolan actually ordered me not to. And this - seems important.: 

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:I can be kept from casting everything I have prepared now by preventing me from speaking or from moving my hands, and I would take several seconds to get a second casting off after Suppress Charms and Compulsions, so it wouldn't be hard to stop me from casting more if they wanted to even if the spell took off the blocks they themselves placed. I can confirm all that by truth spell.:

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...Enara can find someone to pass that on to. Rolan is actively blocking her - and, to be somewhat fair to him, is probably fielding dozens of conversations with other Companions in Haven and genuinely doesn't have time - but probably someone is just outside waiting for their Herald and has nothing else to do even if they've been ordered not to tell her anything.  

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Several Companions to Heralds on the Senior Circle will in fact still be up waiting for them, because despite how late it is, the Heralds are still meeting. 

 

 

Dara is exhausted beyond belief. It's only partly the lateness and lack of sleep last night. (Nobody slept well, even after they called it a day and went to bed.)

It's also the feeling that nothing is ever going to be all right again - that it's too late, that too many things are already broken that can't be repaired, that they're on a course they can't turn away from toward a war they almost certainly can't win but have to try their hardest, anyway, burning everything left of their hopes and dreams to buy a few more days before Leareth can flatten the kingdom because maybe a miracle will happen. The feeling that the rest of her life is probably measured in weeks and she's going to spend literally all of it like this, amped on on chava until she can barely make her hands not shake, trying to ignore a headache to reason about the strategic situation and make decisions she's inevitably going to screw up because how could she possibly be ready for this, she's twenty years old, and she's never going to have children she's never even going to have time for a quiet evening of cuddling Tran, it's just endless meetings and broken sleep from here until it's over. 

There isn't room in her head to try to reason about incredibly confusing hypotheticals that make her feel like she's losing her mind, and she has to do it ANYWAY, it's not like she doesn't KNOW that failing to do it is another possible way she could irreparably fuck this up, and it'snotfairit'snotfairit'snotfair but that childish plea to an indifferent universe never got her anywhere even when she was six years old, did it. 

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Jisa is alive. 

She's alive and her Companion is alive too and so - presumably Leareth wants it that way - and Treven feels like that's the only thing still holding him together. Which it can't be, he needs to be able to function long enough to - see this through - even if Jisa dies, but he can't think about that right now, so - worry about it if it happens. Right now Jisa is alive and that means everything isn't already lost and - cling to that. 

...Also he's tired enough to be seeing spots, and he mustn't yawn or rub his eyes because he needs to be in control, not to remind everyone else that on top of being seventeen, he's slept five candlemarks in the last entire night and day and is really not thinking clearly enough for this. 

He clears his throat. "Sorry, Melody, go over again what you think is confusing?" 

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Why are they even still having this meeting. What further information can they possibly wring out of the handful of facts they have, when they've already held them up beside each other in every possible configuration. Melody wants to be done this meeting and go lock herself in her office and take down her redirects and cry until she stops feeling like her mind is fraying, and then go to BED. 

"I'm confused about the timeline. We think Van might have been snatched and Leareth swapped in an imposter, but - you couldn't fool Stef and you couldn't fool Yfandes. One, it's a lot less obvious when Stef could have been taken, Blai and Enara were with him more or less continuously from the point when Jisa arrived until after the Death Bell. The only possible opportunity is when they were asleep, but Enara said the Companions kept watch, so what gives? The point is, I don't see there being any version of this that doesn't posit undetectable mind control that we have no other reason to believe is possible." 

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Savil is numb, mostly. There isn't going to be time to finish grieving, one way or another, so why take the cover off that bottomless pit. 

"I mean, this is evidence it exists, and it makes sense that Leareth would have wanted to keep some capabilities in reserve. I think the confusing part here is what he's aiming for. I don't think it can just be making us all feel like we're losing our minds, or - if it is that, if he wants us too off balance to think, then - it's because he's planning something else and doesn't want us catching on." 

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Savil isn't wrong, is she, that there's a pattern here - that Melody is looking at a room full of exhausted, drawn faces, and fully aware that no one here is anywhere near their best, but she doesn't quite feel like she can tell them off like children and send them to bed because maybe it really can't afford to wait until morning.

A thought manages to rise to the surface.

Someone definitely doesn't want the people in this room to be very able to think. There's a story you can concoct where that someone is Leareth, but - is that the story that holds together best? 

 

The unanswered question there is, who else would have wanted Vanyel dead? 

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Herald Katha clears her throat. 

"...I'm confused about the fake Yfandes. Melody is right, it's - a confusing level of commitment to realism - and it's baffling that the construct would jeopardize its mission by going back for some kids and dying in an avalanche. I mean, we could posit that this was its mission - that Leareth caused the avalanche, that it had orders to - behave convincingly like Yfandes would - and of course we can't check anything now that it's dead? But I don't actually know how he could set off an avalanche without a Web alarm, so that's positing an unrelated impossible kind of magic. And positing that he still can't trick the Web, which - I mean, you would think if he had Van for most of a day, he could have wrung that much out of him?" 

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It's not like Leareth wouldn't kill most of a family - probably a few families, there were farmhouses in the area - as part of a plan.

But -

Melody isn't sure what the 'but' is, actually. 

 

 

The message might have been incredibly suspicious - especially because the real Yfandes would have been in range for fifty miles already - but it was enough for Rolan to order a Farseer to check, and then divert the nearest Herald, and they dug up the body of the not-Companion and pulled the younger child out of the snow still (barely) alive, sheltered by her dead brother's body. 

It's unimportant, in the grand scheme of things, but - it feels like something could have been lost and wasn't, and maybe it's stupid but Melody is kind of finding herself clinging to that. 

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"I'm confused about the prophecies. Especially a third one. I - think that has to be evidence that Blai at least really met with Leareth and really cast spells on him, because - he couldn't have known what Brightstar found, Leareth couldn't have known what Brightstar found, I literally can't think of a way that any of them could have known without a genuine prophecy." 

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"I mean. One goal of replacing Vanyel with an imposter could have been steering Blai into meeting Leareth and willingly casting his spells. I don't think we have to posit a lot of mind control on Blai specifically - maybe just enough for him to miss the switch - which plausibly happened in Leareth's records, I don't know what they were thinking going in there. Anyway, all that would really need is to keep him asleep, they could've done that with Healing and kept him out through a whole fight if necessary. Jisa must have had more done to her, but - maybe there's an amount of messing with his head that Blai's god would notice and object to, and then his magic would stop working? Or maybe Leareth just thought there might be, it doesn't have to be true to explain Leareth being cautious. And the better strategy Leareth saw was a setup to fool him. Since, you know, he apparently used to work for an evil god apparently. He can't be that hard to fool." 

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That's not fair. The poor man. 

 

 

...Not actually a logical argument and she's not going to try to twist it into one. 

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Savil drags a hand over her face. 

"We're going in circles. Leareth could have done all sorts of things, including - I think we've proposed at least four different behind-the-scenes plans that could result in what we know so far. We don't have a good explanation for why he would have done any of those rather than, you know, flattening us with his enormous army and hundreds of mages a couple of days ago. I don't know that we have enough information even in principle to figure that out before it's too late, or what we could do differently that would change anything. Are we gaining anything if we spend another candlemark in the middle of the night on this?" 

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That should feel like the most sensible thing anyone has said in candlemarks but it...doesn't, actually.

Why not. 

Because it does feel like they're missing something. Like they're not actually doing the most they can to wring answers out of the few pieces they have. More importantly, it feels like maybe those answers could be relevant, could - change something - 

 

 

Probably they're not going to get there if they stay up until two candlemarks past midnight arguing about this. Even though it does feel like tomorrow morning might already be too late. 

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Keiran tenses suddenly. 

 

"...Well. My Companion says that Enara contacted her and wants us to consider letting Blai cast some spell he supposedly has to suppress compulsions, 'in case that helps us check anything.'" 

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"...Enara is still in contact with Blai? Didn't we put him in a shielded room?" 

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"Presumably she already knew his spells? Though I'm not clear on why she would either fail to think of it or fail to bring it up until now."

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“It’s a good point that Jisa could have keyed Enara to the shields. I assume Melody would have noticed - and said something - if they were in contact during the interrogation,” a hard look at Melody, “but seems like a good idea to fix that loophole. Is there anything else for tonight.”

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“…No, I don’t think so. Let’s all get some sleep, there’s a Council meeting to run in the morning.”

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Oh no.

:Blai? I think probably Katha's Companion did pass on my message to the Heralds, but - I think they've realized we can talk and it was unintentional, Savil is outside and seems to be modifying the shields, I'll be blocked in a minute. ...Sorry, I didn't think of that. I - it's possible they're going to sleep on it and will consider trying it in the morning, but I don't think you should wait up.: 

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:Okay.: It's really hard to stay awake in a completely pitch black room by himself, and he doesn't have windows or a light spell. His non-light-based means of staying awake involves expecting to be tortured if he falls asleep, which actually works great, but if there's no reason to do it, he isn't exactly enjoying it enough to carry on anyway. He lies down on the mattress. He sleeps.

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Nobody is currently reading Blai's mind in order to have concerns about his world and/or life based on this thought. 

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Enara paces and - eventually decides that she thinks it's still more likely this is a bizarre godplot than that she was mind-controlled without noticing. She sends the third message, the one for 'out of contact with Blai.' It's deeply unclear what Van or Leareth can do about it, but - at least they know, and won't be counting on Enara and Blai pulling out a miracle here that seems increasingly unlikely. 

She tries to sleep. 

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Melody is also trying to sleep and it's not working, even after the first candlemark of clearing her backlog of crying. 

 

It doesn't make sense, a plaintive voice in the back of her mind keeps repeating, and it doesn't help to keep telling herself that it's not like the world owes it to her to make sense, or that she feels like half of the feeling is just that Van is dead and that wasn't supposed to happen, not like this, not - abruptly in the middle of everything and accomplishing nothing. It feels like - it's not that it would hurt any less, if it had all happened in the way they were expecting (which could have included Vanyel sacrificing himself in a last-ditch attempt to stop Leareth that didn't even work) but - 

- but part of her mind is stuck in an endless loop that has nowhere to resolve, and the quiet pleading voice is insisting that at least she wouldn't be stuck, if anything made sense, at least she could grieve properly. 

There isn't really any such thing as grieving properly, she reminds herself, there's no right or wrong way, she's said that to her patients a thousand times. 

That doesn't help either. 

...Fine, if she's going to be dwelling on this in the middle of the night anyway instead of sleeping like a responsible adult who needs to be capable of putting on her professional face again in the morning, she should at least do it properly. 

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Fine. What part of the not-making-sense has her stuck like this? 

 

...She doesn't think Vanyel could have been that wrong about Leareth. Wrong about how seriously he was considering an alliance, maybe. Not wrong about - him being the sort of man who would respond to his various grievances with the world by trying to build a god and who might actually have a chance of succeeding. Someone who moves in a straight line toward his goals. Someone who does have principles, albeit in a baffling sideways sort of way. 

They've spent so long arguing around what Leareth might or might not be capable of, debating the how of everything that's happened, and almost ignored the question of, you know, why Leareth decided he wanted Vanyel dead. Maybe because it felt self-evident, given how the original dream ended, but is it, really? Especially given everything they know now. It makes perfect sense that Leareth would kill Vanyel if, after they met, Vanyel said to his face that he couldn't countenance backing down from the war (and Van would say that, if he believed it.) 

If Leareth could have incapacitated Vanyel and held him prisoner in the first place, though, why kill him at all? Even positing an elaborate scheme to trick Blai into casting a prophecy spell without actually having to mind-control him (and how could Leareth have known about the prophecy spell beforehand?), why in the world would sending in a Vanyel-impersonator require the actual Vanyel to be dead? Surely it would be better to keep him alive, so he could be interrogated more on demand to help keep up the ruse. 

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...That's what it comes down to. On the night the Death Bell rang, there was a story that made sense, that was in many ways a shocking reversal but didn't, yet, feel like it couldn't hold together with everything they had already seen about Leareth.

But everything since Blai arrived in Haven is just adding confusion, and - at some point they should stop adding new layers of complication to their theories and admit they no longer know what's going on. 

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And if they no longer know what's going on, and all they do know is that some of the pieces of this puzzle cannot possibly fit in with the others and so something has to be a trick, then - how do they know which of the pieces is a lie? 

It's so, so tempting to believe that maybe Vanyel isn't dead, but maybe they've all been overcorrecting for that.

Maybe all they have is the Death Bell on one side, and a dozen pieces on the other - individually much less convincing, but they add up - and they don't, actually, know which side of that is more likely to be a plot aimed at deceiving them. 

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(Like double vision, dizzying - the sense that there are two different worlds, on either side of a distorted mirror, and she doesn't know which they're in -

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Jisa was the one who brought up that the Star-Eyed had the capability to send a Changecreature (that coincidentally happened to go after Arven) and to take out k'Treva. And that She might have the motive, too. And - if Someone wanted to overdetermine it even harder that Valdemar would be steered into a war, well, killing Van definitely seems like a way to do it. 

- but still doesn't fit very well with what Enara and Blai know - 

- well, all it actually takes is the Heralds believing Van is dead, because they might not have seen it or known how it happened, but they had confirmation from a magical source of truth that in eight hundred years had never been wrong. 

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Aughhhhhhh it is not fair how much that hurts to think about. 

 

They don't have enough of the pieces to rule out all the theories except one. But - how hard have they really been trying? One thing they haven't done is, well, actually sat down with Enara, or with Blai - who, to his credit, is willing to seriously consider that his head may have been messed with and his thoughts aren't trustworthy - and explained what they think happened, and seen their reactions. 

There was a decent argument for that at first - both having separate people questioning Blai and Enara, and making sure that neither of them were aware what and how much the Heralds already knew, to make it harder to tailor their story - but they've done that, that strategy has been tried, and their nicely unbiased pieces don't fit. 

 

...on the one hand, 'the middle of the night without telling anyone' is not the ideal time or circumstances to be doing this. On the other hand, if they are being steered down a track which would be a terrible mistake if they knew the truth, then - she doesn't know how long is left before the point of no return. 

 

Melody grits her teeth, and gets up, and splashes water on her face. She'll go to Healers' and get some of the stronger stimulant, the Tayledras-sourced one they handed out to some of the soldiers; chava isn't going to cut it if she's expecting to stay up all night and keep going tomorrow. Gods, I haven't been this irresponsible since I was twenty. 

Talking to Blai first is...safer, given that she doesn't know which side of the topsy-turvy mirror they're on and maybe he does work for Leareth at a remove - though most of the still-live theories posit that he didn't know, possibly with the aid of some mind control to help keep up the ruse, but not the kind that would shift his own beliefs and values and goals. Which implies a smaller risk that he's been fully turned and will work against Valdemar now. Also he's locked in a Work Room and can't use any of his magic and they confiscated his communications talismans, and Melody spent a lot of time in his head and is pretty sure she would know if he were keeping something in reserve. 

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Half a candlemark later - it's by now around four candlemarks after midnight, still a long time to go until dawn - Blai is woken by a polite but firm knock on the Work Room door, followed by Melody coming in with a candle. 

(There's a guard posted outside the door but he's very junior and the dean of Mindhealers is showing up with an expression that means she's on serious business. He's not going to argue. It's not even that odd for her to be up on business in the middle of the night, given what the last couple of days have been like.) 

:I'm sorry to wake you but I think we need to talk more.: 

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oh shit he fell asleep time for Vicar Rey to break every joint in his body and leave him for Vicar Vilar to - oh wait no that's not the thing that's happening. :Yes, how can I help you?:

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Gaaaaah???? Melody has so many concerns about the - wow, presumably that's when he was a priest for the evil god - aaaaaah! She hates it!!! 

(Absolutely none of this shows on her face, even by Chelish standards. One thing Melody has down is making sure her patients don't have to deal with her less-than-professional emotional reactions to their problems.) 

She sits down on the stool. 

:We didn't tell you anything about what happened here while you were gone. That was deliberate - you came back with a story that makes absolutely no sense given events here in your absence, and claiming to have met with Leareth, we had to assume the discrepancy was because you had been compromised and we didn't want you to - have a chance to tailor your story. But we got your report, and had a meeting, and - something is off here. That thing might well be that Leareth either did something to your head or pulled a very convincing ruse without actually mind-controlling you about it, and everything you reported to us isn't what it looked like. But - it might be something else. Talking to you now could be a risk, but - I don't think it's much of one, we have you very quarantined, and - if the events in Haven are the ones that aren't what they look like, then I think we need to take every chance we have to learn that.:  

She takes a deep breath. :Yesterday - well, gods, it's nearly morning now - a day and a half ago, the evening you arrived at the kyree caves - we learned that Vanyel was dead. Specifically, we learned it from the Death Bell, which is directly tied into the working that King Valdemar did at our kingdom's founding to set up the Web, has a link to every Herald and Companion, and has never in eight hundred years been wrong.: 

What is Blai thinking in response to all of that. 

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Well, his first guess is that Leareth might have attached Vanyel to his immortality setup somehow, since he seems interested in having Vanyel around, but like, you'd think Vanyel would notice after the fact that he'd blipped into a Clone or a phylactery or a resurrection insurance office or whatever it is they have here, even if it were easy to miss beforehand? Or a god did it, the gods seem involved in the Companions and things attached to Companions might be pretty easy targets, and this might be the highest stakes thing to happen in eight hundred years, you don't get archmages bent on creating gods coming by every Starday. Or there's a fake Vanyel. He's not super clear on how any of these people know each other and in particular is rounding off Companions to paladin horses who can't even talk except that he's noticed Companions can Mindspeak; so maybe a fake Vanyel could have passed fine to the whole party, it certainly wouldn't take much acting skill to fool Blai. Blai has no idea what the state of the art in transmutation or illusion or whatever it'd have to be is here, so he can't help much with figuring out if it's technically possible. Or of course Blai's been bamboozled to the Abyss and back but if that's what's going on he's extra unhelpful.

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...Wow, she did not at all consider that Vanyel might show up as ""dead"" to the Web because Leareth had, what, done something bizarre to him involving making Vanyel his next body if he dies??? Is that even possible? - maybe Blai wasn't thinking of that exactly, the emotional overtones don't fit - everything goes by very fast and it's hard to catch when he's referencing so many concepts totally unfamiliar to her, but she thinks he's considering that maybe Leareth made Vanyel immortal and Vanyel almost-dying is what triggered the Death Bell? That's - she also doesn't know if that's possible, actually - 

Either way, it sounds like it's possible in Blai's world but Blai is really not the person to ask about whether it's possible here. Inconveniently, Jisa might be one of the best people and she's both not here and plausibly compromised.

Melody makes a mental note and moves on. 

 

:Our top theory had been that Leareth sent someone in to impersonate Vanyel, yes, and that you in particular wouldn't have been hard to fool.:

Frown. :The easiest time to do it would have been when Vanyel was returning from delivering Feniss to Waymeet, and was separated from you. But - there are reasons I don't think you know why it would be impossible even in principle to fool Stef if Vanyel died, so I think we would need to assume he was substituted too. But that Jisa wasn't, because we have Enara here and she's definitely not an imposter - the Groveborn would be able to tell - and Enara would be able to tell if her Chosen had been sneakily replaced. Which means Jisa must have been under some mind control, but we wouldn't have to posit an undetectable Wild Gift no one has ever heard of. Mindhealing would do, since she was the only one able to check for it. Enara says you were all asleep, and could have been kept that way while Stef was replaced - 

- which doesn't explain Yfandes, because she couldn't be fooled about Vanyel, but a Yfandes-impersonater would find it awfully hard to fool another Companion. Also Enara didn't believe she or Yfandes slept at all during that period, and it's possible you could cover that with mind control but it's back to positing something undetectable, since I've looked at Enara and so have some mages, she's clear of anything we can actually spot.: 

A pause. 

:- Wanted to run a question by you. Would your goddess repudiate you - take away your magic - if you were being forced via a lot of mind-control into doing something that would probably cause a disaster? How about if you were just being tricked, like in the scenario I just described?: 

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:I am for personal background reasons not as well catechized as I should be, so I am guessing. My guess would be that Iomedae would withdraw my spells if I were using them against Her interests, but that it is expensive for Her to do this - because it communicates information, and that's expensive for gods as I know them. So She might cut it pretty close. I would also lose my spells if I drifted too far from Her in alignment, automatically, which can happen due to mind control - if my beliefs about my present alignment are correct this would happen if I became Evil or ceased to be Lawful. My alignment is hidden under Hers so I can't tell for sure if I am definitely Lawful Neutral but it's certainly the way to bet. I've been doing my best to read Her in on the situation but I do not know if She has the budget at this time to intervene for anything short of an impending Evil god, I'm only mostly sure She could intervene if it did come to that, and I'm not sure She'd win if any other gods supported the new one coming into existence. Withdrawing my spells only might be the way that would play out; it would have to be both of cheap and effective.:

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Slow nod. :So it says...more than nothing...that She hasn't. Probably. But not as much as we might like.: And of course if Leareth did muck around with Blai's memories via an undetectable Wild Gift, Melody can't necessarily trust his report on a world and a goddess she has no prior knowledge about. :She might have left you with your spells if She thought you were being tricked into doing something against Her interests but would realize in time? ...Also it sounds like you think it probably doesn't matter enormously if it was mind control or just controlling your environment, since She would be looking at the consequences?: 

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:All my information is from Golarion, where prophecy doesn't work any more. I don't know exactly how that affects things or how it works on a planet where it's not broken.:

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Nod. 

:I'm not going to take everything you say at face value, so don't worry about speculating even though you might be compromised – what do you think? Of whether this looks more like - the trick is what happened with your party in the north, versus the trick was the Death Bell in Haven? If you were the one making a decision here - you aren't, I think either way we need to keep you here, but if you were - which way would you go?: 

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:The Death Bell being faked sounds like - not definite at all but the sort of thing that should be flagged as a possibility, and I think if you can tell people to consider it from here before you go anywhere vulnerable to lightning that would be ideal.:

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Nod.

There's one more piece. 

:Earlier, there was a sighting in Waymeet of - something that looked externally like a Companion and claimed to be Yfandes. But visibly wasn't tied into the Web, which Companions always are. There were a few Heralds and Companions in Waymeet, none of whom are briefed on - recent events - they didn't answer its questions and reported back for orders, by which point it had gone onward into Valdemar.: 

:Enara admitted to Rolan that Yfandes had been planning to travel partway south until she was in range to be a relay point.: 

:There - was an avalanche, a little over two hundred miles north of here. Plausibly just before the point when the real Yfandes would be in range of Enara. Rolan received a frantic message, reporting children in danger. Not boosted by the Web, but he admits that in less than a dozen words of long-range Mindspeech he wouldn't necessarily have been able to distinguish if it was the real Yfandes just inexplicably locked out, or a fake.: 

:It - she? - was found dead in the aftermath when a Herald went to the scene. Which is - a little confusing, if it was a fake Yfandes traveling on Leareth's orders. It might have made it out if it hadn't turned back for the children.: 

 

How is Blai reacting? 

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Yfandes was indeed supposed to do that. Well, was supposed to go to Waymeet, he doesn't know if she had a policy decided in advance about children in avalanches. :I don't think anyone has actually explained the Web to me but if it's going to keep coming up...:

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Shrug. :Not sure I'm the best person to explain, but I'll do my best. King Valdemar made it eight hundred years ago, it's - part mage-working, presumably based on something from the Eastern Empire where he was trained, and likely part miracle. Before Vanyel improved it, it provided alarms for sufficiently major disasters anywhere in the Kingdom and slightly more efficient distance-casting, and all Companions were linked to it from birth, which is probably how it 'knows' about a Herald's death. At that point, it was powered mainly by the active Herald-Mages at the time, which limited its scope. Vanyel improved it by creating a Heartstone in Haven as a power source, which also let him improve how 'clever' the wards and alarms built into it are. ...This did include a change to the Death Bell, actually, previously we just knew Herald had died. That was the part that's never been wrong in eight hundred years. All the Heralds knowing who died immediately when they heard the bell is - something that happened when Vanyel gave the Web greater scope. It's also never been wrong, for a lot of deaths, but - only over less than a decade. ...In fact there are no other Heralds' deaths that didn't get a Death Bell, we did check that.: 

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:So... you installed a Star-Eyed artifact in your Web, and now both She and it are separately somewhat suspect?:

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:...I suppose, yes. Though we had no previous reason to suspect the Web was unreliable before you arrived, with a story that - isn't incompatible with Vanyel being dead as of a day and a half ago, but is at least confusing and requires a complicated explanation and Leareth having abilities we weren't previously aware of. Which - is also the case if we assume he destroyed k'Treva.: 

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:I understand you have no strong reason to put weight on my assessment of the man's Law but - I reiterate it.:

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It makes sense to put some weight on it. Blai's other magic seems to work here. 

:I did want to ask about your impression of the man, since you're the only one in Haven right now who's met him. I'm guessing there are - different kinds of Law, even in your world, and some people who would read Lawful and would never tell an outright lie or break their word, but - would consider it fine to select misleading truths and give their word in twisty ways, and - to hurt people, if they hadn't promised not to. And some Lawful people who would consider that against their principles - against the spirit of Law, and wouldn't do it even if they could sneak it past the letter. If you had no reason to worry about mind control, I - am curious which sort of Lawful you would read Leareth as.: 

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:Well, there are Lawful Good and Lawful Neutral and Lawful Evil people, and, yes, there are people who adhere to the spirit of Law and others who - don't. Twisty exact wording has never been my specialty but I didn't detect any in my exchanges with Leareth and he was very explicit about declining to swear those things he didn't feel sure of. In a world where no one can tell if you're Lawful or not, so reading Lawful to spells is not instrumentally useful in any way, I would expect the reading to appear mostly in cases where the spirit is honored, and he did not challenge that expectation.:

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Nod. :That was always Vanyel's impression as well, and - obviously he can't detect Lawfulness but he had almost twenty years talking to the man, that's a lot of consistency to maintain.

- is there anything else you think we should be considering when reasoning about this, that didn't come up when I questioned you earlier?: 

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:I really do mean it about the lightning strikes. I'm not accustomed to working around hostile gods but the Acts was written when it was a going concern and they had divine help to counteract a lot of it and it still sounded like - you need to really overdetermine things from multiple redundant angles, and if you do it well enough every one of your precautions will look unnecessary, and if you don't then when it matters most they'll, uh, have lightning strike a tree nearby.:

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:And you're worried I might get struck by lightning before I can report on this to anyone?: 

Honestly, Melody was a lot more worried about being arrested, and - in hindsight was that something the gods were steering for as well - keeping her too distracted by grief she couldn't let herself see head-on to think of this when anyone else was awake, and too frazzled and tired of everything to make a decision on whether to wake someone to get permission and who she ought to get permission from. 

But - that's even more of a reason to report it immediately, really, it will look even worse later. 

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:Yes. I don't know what your resources are or who's awake at this hour but if I were you I'd tell five different people, before leaving the room, and leave a note with me, and carry a few copies of one yourself and leave them in different places, and have each note specify where the others should be found so if any strange number of them go missing it's alerting.:

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:Wow. Is that the sort of precautions your goddess advises in the holy book? That's - I realize this is an odd thing to say but your goddess reminds me a little of Leareth.: 

Also Melody is a goddamned idiot and did not bring...paper. And cannot actually Mindspeak anyone without at least opening the door, she's not keyed to the shields either. Though she can open the door and still stay inside, and surely lightning can't leap directly a room. 

:I'm going to go open the door and alert the Groveborn.: Pause. :...Actually, first. Are you - going to be all right? I - sorry: there is no right way to say this to Vanyel, even, and she doesn't know this man nearly as well. :I don't just mean 'is this unpleasant for you', it certainly is and also I know you can handle that. But it seems like it could be traumatic to be locked in a room for days without your magic: especially since it keeps happening to him, :and - if you're right about what's happening, and the Heralds catch on in time, then we might need your help without much notice. Would you anticipate that being an issue?: 

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:The command of Her crusade, since Her enemy had a god's backing, yes... I don't think I'm particularly close to having an operational constraint here. Do you know what you might want suddenly, so I can prepare spells accordingly at sunup?:

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‘Operational constraint’ is - exactly what she meant, huh. 

:Communications with the north, but I don’t know if your magic helps with that. …The spell that makes you wiser, maybe, if I can convince anyone it’s worth letting you cast it. Another prophecy spell wouldn’t be a terrible idea. And - if they end up deciding they can trust you to heal the King under close supervision, that would improve our operational capacity significantly. That’s all I can think of on the spot.:

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:I'm not powerful enough to cast Sending. I.... could prepare a Planar Inquiry and ask for a messenger, but it would be really here, not a summons, and I wouldn't want to get some lantern archon killed unless it was definitely that important and ideally also sufficiently redundant that killing it wouldn't be useful to the gods. I'm not practiced at reasoning about that.:

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:Hmm. If you have room to prepare it without giving up something that might be more useful, we don’t have to commit to using it yet. I - do - think it could be that important, and - maybe more likely our gods wouldn’t know what to do with it. Unless a lightning strike or avalanche would work just fine against it, I guess. …It sounds like you can pray for your spells even with your ability to cast them blocked for now, is that right?: 

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:Archons are immune to electricity actually, and can fly. And I don't know, I haven't tried it yet.:

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...Nod. 

:I'm not going to change anything for now.: It would substantially increase the odds of the Heralds deciding to arrest her, and make everything she has to report more suspect. :I - hope it still works. Dawn will be in about three candlemarks, I think.: 

Melody has also given herself time to think that, possibly, the Groveborn - tied even more deeply into the Web than most Companions, and even more a direct creation of a god or gods - is not the best person to contact first. She'll try for Dara directly. And wake Jeren, who's on call for Mindhealers' tonight, to come bring her paper, which is by some arguments abusing her position but right now she does not care. 

She goes to open the door. 

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:Don't you need to write notes? If you don't have paper I've got two copies of the Acts here and I can scriven off another later, take some pages -:

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:I was going to have my colleague run paper over but - sure, if you don't mind.: She does at least have pen and ink in her pocket. 

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He carefully rips out the last few pages of the less nicely-bound copy; it's poetry and there's plenty of margin from all the line breaks.

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Melody feels like she's being slightly sacrilegious but Blai is the one who suggested. 

...Okay, what to actually write

Further interrogation of Select Blai suggests alternate theory. Blai's report at face value incompatible with Death Bell. Should be less confident which side is a ruse. Could be Leareth lying, but Star-Eyed Goddess could have sent Changecreature & destroyed K'Treva. Heartstone modification affected Death Bell, could be subject to tampering. Consider possibility that Leareth is truthful & events in Haven are the trick. 

If I die in an implausible accident, I consider this evidence for the second theory.

 

She writes a note, describing and tucks it inside her robes. Writes another on a second page, folds it, places it on the stool. 

:All right. Now I'm going to open the door.: 

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:You only want two copies?:

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:If I get killed before I can even step out the door, more than two copies isn't going to help. ...If my junior colleague is struck by lightning on the way over here, I'll make more copies. I'm planning to wait inside and call for people from here, I just can't Mindspeak out with the door shut.: 

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:Okay.:

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Melody opens the door. 

Lightning does not strike. No wild animals inexplicably on the Palace grounds break in to tear them apart. It's...honestly a bit of an anticlimax. 

 

:Jeren. Jeren wake up and get yourself to -: damn it where is she again, :- er, Work Room Seventeen, it's the one by the greenhouses on the southwest path off Companions' Field. Priority One.: 

Technically that urgency designation is supposed to be about, you know, patients, but Melody does not care. 

:Bring pen and paper and - er, don't dawdle, but walk carefully, weather's nasty tonight.: 

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Mrrrrrghwhat oh shit it's an emergency fine he's awake and on his way. :...Did someone forget who was on call tonight?: 

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:Long story. I hadn't gone to bed yet. ...Put on a coat, it's cold out.: If Jeren unluckily slips and smashes his head on a rock or something, at least he won't freeze to death. 

 

Too soon to know which world she's in, which side of the distorted mirror. No point having feelings about it yet. Melody hasn't put any redirects on herself - she needs to be able to think right now, even if it hurts - but it doesn't actually hurt, yet. The Tayledras stimulant makes her emotions feel very far away (and also her feet feel very far away, which is weird.)

It feels like nudging the first rock at the top of an unstable hill, and the landslide is already inevitable but she doesn't know, yet, which way it's going to go. 

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Four hundred miles away, Jisa is having an oddly similar experience. 

She hasn't slept. It's incredibly lucky that she just managed the Adept ritual, because she had to burn through like a third of the power generated by it over a dozen attempts at the comms spell. Mindreading Stef, who did meet the man albeit only in a dream, and reverse-engineering the spell thoroughly enough to experiment with targeting it partially off a bearing rather than entirely to a specific person, was eventually enough to get it to work. 

And then she had to keep it up for long enough to explain everything to Leareth, and then she had to raise an unscaffolded Gate to the message-drop location because he doesn't actually know where they are. 

Maybe a candlemarks to go until dawn, now, and she's finally ushering Leareth into the kyree caves. (It took only a short discussion with Hyrryl to convince them that they could trust the man enough for that.) 

The emergency stimulant Vanyel had in his bags doesn't feel like chava, which tends to make her feel disproportionately cheerful and then jittery. She feels very calm and very distant and maybe a little bit brittle, like she's seeing the world through a pane of quartz crystal. 

"No change," she says quietly. "He's not - I don't think he's a danger to himself." He's been through this before, or something like it. "But I don't know when he's going to be - functional. I don't think we should be counting on him for anything." 

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"I understand." 

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How reassuring of him. 

"Do your people have any idea what's happening in Haven?" 

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Leareth sits down on the fur-covered stone outcropping that Jisa points out to him. 

"Less than I would prefer. I do have a report of a riderless Companion being escorted into the city by a substantial guard and led to a particular unused barn, so unless that was something completely unrelated, we know where Enara most likely is. The priest, I am not sure, and checking every potential shielded location myself would be - costly." 

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Of course Leareth can do that. 

"His name is Blai." Weird that that apparently failed to come up at all so far. "Enara hasn't said they need a rescue yet?" 

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"No. Only that the negotiations were not going well and she was unable to contact Yfandes and they had not been allowed any other methods to communicate - which we already knew - and, shortly later, that she had been blocked from contact with Blai as well. I would prefer to know where he is in case the situation worsens quickly, but I am not sure I can afford to be tired, and my options to scry him very directly are limited if they have taken his artifacts." 

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Jisa takes a deep breath. 

"I have an idea to get in and out of Haven without anyone knowing. I'll need Farsight or scrying coverage of Waymeet..." 

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Nothing seemed to go disastrously wrong from Blai's perspective when Melody reported in. She was escorted away by Savil, who seemed kind of angry about the whole thing but did make sure they were very well shielded before they stepped out. Melody's overwhelmed-looking junior colleague had carried away more copies of the note, first, and before she left Melody confirmed that half a dozen of the Heralds were awake and she had confirmed personally via Mindspeech that they had the report. 

He's left alone, after that. 

A couple of candlemarks later - though he can't actually see it from inside a windowless room - dawn arrives. 

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He goes back to sleep once she's gone. He wakes with the dawn. It looks like he can prepare spells, just not cast them.

He's keeping the Suppress Charms and Compulsions, keeping the Owl's Wisdom, preparing a Lesser Restoration. This doesn't leave room for a prophecy if he uses the third circle slot on a Planar Inquiry. He should have told the Mindhealer about that, gotten her opinion on the tradeoff, but he was - tired, jittery -

- he takes the Planar Inquiry. Preps an Endure Elements in case he winds up in the snow coatless again for some reason. Air Bubble's good if there's a fire. Comprehend Langauges in case he needs to read or communicate with a non-Mindspeaker, even though in this scenario he'd have to have been allowed to cast spells first. ...and Forbid Action because he can at this time rather vividly imagine needing to forbid someone to EXPLODE.

He... has room for...

...another second-circle spell. Maybe the lake monster put him pretty close to it and all this bustling around with messages and prophecies and archmages got him enough beyond that. That little step closer toward another circle.

He prepares the Minor Prophecy.

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The sun will be rising in Haven now, Jisa thinks. Waymeet is a lot further north; it's dark for almost a candlemark longer. 

She unties herself from the kyree sled, thanks Aroon, and slips out of the forest into the streets of the town. She hides in a stable – not one that Companions are sleeping in, it's just the ordinary horses, and not the Guard horses either. 

 

The plan only works because she just made White Winds Adept, and had a little time to play with the illusion forms before everything got worse again, and also has access to a degree of personal shields she didn't before. And because she practiced, at one point, hiding her active mage-gift - from a mage, at least, if not from a Mindhealer - by voluntarily tucking her channels into a "closed" position. It seemed like it might matter, back when her new Gift was a state secret, and now it matters for a different reason. 

And she knows, from Leareth's past Farsight and scrying coverage of Waymeet, that Melody's granddaughter Clara apparently volunteered to station herself in the north with Agnetta. 

 

Right now, Jisa looks exactly like Clara. White Winds Adepts can create illusions that fool all the senses, including touch; it's not just her hair and eye color that are different, she's also taller and significantly plumper. (She slightly had to resist the urge to spend time she can't afford examining her larger breasts and wondering what Treven would think. This could be a fun game for them in it can WAIT.) She's wearing her Mindhealers' robes - when she was leaving Haven, she packed them in case it made sense to show up in Waymeet as that - which don't quite fit Clara's form, but no one should notice that, especially in the dark. 

Clara is asleep in the newly-erected Healers' barracks, but not shielded from Jisa's Mindspeech. 

 

:Clara. Wake up. ...Don't move or tell anyone you're awake.: 

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Huh what. 

:Jisa? What are you doing here?: 

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:It's a really, really long story. Do you trust me?: 

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Why is Jisa like this.

:Depends. Do you promise it’s not like that time with the Herald-trainees and the treehouse?:

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The worst part is, Jisa’s younger self did absolutely everything to deserve that.

:It’s not a prank, I swear. I’m a full Herald and a full Mindhealer now, I don’t do that anymore. This is serious. And really, really, really important.:

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SO ominous. But they are at war.

:Fine. What is it.:

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:I need to pretend to be you, so I can catch the dawn supply-Gate to Haven with a message for Melody. So I need you to either hide so no one sees two of you, or - well, if you were up for a really interesting Mindhealing case…:

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:Jisa, your idea of an interesting case gives me nightmares.:

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:You don’t have to. I - think it’ll be all right even if I’m gone for half a day, and there could be some danger - though Waymeet may not be safe either…:

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Aaaaaaaamd here comes the guilt trip. Jisa is so good at those, and even when you know that it STILL WORKS.

:Fine. Where?:

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:Meet me here.: Jisa pushes across a mental image and sense of direction. :Be discreet.:

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Bloody spy shit. Clara is definitely not having fun– ...all right, fine, it's maybe a tiny bit exciting. Which is a terrible sign, but. 

 

 

Ten minutes later, Clara is up and dressed and slipping into a stable. There's a guard on patrol but he has three other doors to watch and she's a Thoughtsenser and can time it for when he's not looking. 

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Ten minutes after that, 'Clara' leaves again.

 

(Behind her, a shimmer in the air is all that's visible of the illusion cloaking someone else. It might not quite pass muster in daylight, Jisa isn't that good yet, and it took longer than she wanted to get it even that close, but at least it doesn't leak to mage-sight. Clara still leaves footprints in the snow, but the new falling snow will cover them in a few minutes. The kyree will be able to cloak her as well as soon as she reaches the edge of town.) 

 

Half a candlemark later, the morning supply-Gate goes up, cast by a tired White Winds mage who doesn't look twice at the student Mindhealer carrying a satchel with a letter poking out of it. 

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The sun is up in Haven and the Gate-site is incredibly busy. There are a lot of people who will see her go past, but none of them have much thought to spare for her. 

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She probably can't pass for Clara in Mindspeech, but Clara has a weaker Gift and uses it much less often than Jisa does. No one will suspect anything if she only greets people out loud while she makes her way to the House of Healing. 

 

...can she reach ahead and find Melody's mind...

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Nope! 

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Not even in her office, or her suite? Both are shielded but Jisa is keyed to the shields. 

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Nope! 

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Maybe she's been yanked into a meeting with the Senior Circle, that would be annoying. Though mostly because Jisa has to find her; it's actually going to be easier to pass to the Heralds than in Mindhealers'. None of them know Clara. 

 

...Can she find Blai

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Absolutely not. 

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And she can't reach Enara; someone must have decided she ought to be behind shields. But at least Leareth thought he knew where Enara was.

Annoyingly, it's halfway across Haven and Clara has no reason to go there. Probably she can manage it anyway - Enara will know where Blai is, unless he's been moved since they dropped out of contact - though she should drop off her decoy "letter" for Melody first, to cover her tracks. 

She leaves it at the Healers' center station rather than risk running into Jeren, who might well try to Mindspeak Clara and notice something off. And ask a harried-looking Aber where Melody is. 

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- yes, that's a flash of worry in his eyes, quickly disguised because he's talking to a trainee who isn't cleared to know anything. 

"I don't know, sorry." 

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He's lying. 

Which...he wouldn't have any reason to do, if the answer was just "the Heralds stole her for secret meetings." That's - concerning. 

 

Clara sets off, clearly on her way to somewhere important. 

Jisa - doesn't want to do too much through the Web, in case it hasn't noticed her yet but might if she draws on it. She has about half of her White Winds energy left, though, carefully tucked away and hidden under her illusion and shields. She can boost her Mindspeech enough to start checking Heraldic meeting-rooms - the ones where she's personally keyed to the shields - for whether Melody is Mindspeakable in there. 

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Nope. Nope. Nope. Not there either. Nope. ...Dara's in that one but no Melody. 

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Where is she????? Jisa is starting to get seriously worried.

 

 

Half a candlemark later, she finally makes it to within sight of the stupid Barn. 

...damn it, there's a White Winds mage guarding it, aughhhh. 

 

She'll walk up like she has every right to be there, and hope desperately that the mage - Jihatta, she recognizes the woman - won't have any reason to take a peek with her Sight and notice something off about the illusion that Jisa herself missed. 

"Excuse me? The Heralds sent me to check something. Since Melody, um, isn't available. I only need a minute." 

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The mage is not deeply familiar with Healers' uniforms and doesn't recognize the trainee shade. The girl looks absurdly young but so do half the people in charge here. 

"All right, go ahead." She'll unlock the door. 

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:Enara! I've only got a minute or two - what's happening - where's Blai, that's the most important -: Private Mindspeech isn't detectable but opening her shields enough to pull Enara into full rapport might be, who knows, Jisa is a tiny baby Adept and has no idea what the Adepts who've been doing it for a decade can pull off. 

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:Jisa!: 

Enara doesn't move. Tries to look fidgety and uncomfortable, since it's self-evident in the first two seconds that Jisa is here pretending to be someone else and, from context, probably pretending to be here to check her with Mindhealing Sight again.

What are you doing here is - also fairly self-evident, and it's less important to get Jisa's side of the story even though it's incredibly important. 

:You shouldn't be here. The Senior Circle thinks you're compromised. I don't know what happened, no one is telling me anything, but - something really bad - they've written off Van's negotiations, they're incredibly on edge, they're - grieving - I think someone died but I don't think it was Randi...: 

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Please please please please let it not be Savil. ...It doesn't make sense for it to be Savil, Savil was clearly the one who put shields on this barn, and recently. 

:Where's Blai.: 

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:I haven't been able to reach him since shortly after midnight, but -: She pushes across a sense of which Work Room it was. :They found out we could still communicate, I guess it was an oversight putting him in one you'd keyed me to - it was stupid, but I wanted to tell them to let him cast the spell that suppresses compulsions...

- what happened with Yfandes, is she stuck -?: 

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Right. Enara wouldn't know, if they haven't told her. Yfandes was locked out of the Web. 

:She's dead. Leareth's people scried the road. We think it was a landslide. She was almost in range.: 

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:Van?: 

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:Hasn't tried to kill himself. Yet.: Should she say Leareth is with him? ...No, not worth it just to reassure Enara. :You don't have any better idea what - went wrong -?: 

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:No. And neither did Blai, when we last spoke.: 

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She can't risk trying to actually spy on the meeting Dara is in right now - the wards will almost certainly detect it - but she waaaaaaaaaaants to. She wants to knoooooooow. 'Something horrible went wrong and someone might be dead' isn't an answer

:You haven't sent the signal for Leareth to rescue-kidnap you and Blai. Do you think you're...?: 

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:I don't think we're in danger from the Heralds, they just want us contained. I - don't know about the Heartstone - but it would be so escalatory -: 

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:I know.: 

And they're running out of time here. 

:I need to go. I'll try to check if Blai is all right but I don't think I can afford to come back and update you, I'm sorry.: 

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:I know. Don't worry about me. Be careful, and -:

She would say 'godspeed' but that's really the opposite of what they need here, isn't it, unless they're talking about Blai's god. Who is probably too far away to do anything at all. 

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She goes.

 

She reaches ahead to the Work Room in question. 

...Savil was in a hurry and being sloppy. She revoked Enara's access, but not Jisa's. It must have seemed redundant, if they assumed Jisa was Leareth's prisoner in the north or something.

And Blai is in fact alone. She'd better get out as fast as possible after this, they'll find out if they send anyone in to question him, but - she has to know. 

 

:Blai. Are you all right?: 

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:- yes. I was able to prepare spells around the blocks. Melody came last night and left a note here and took a copy away with her; I can - look at it for you -: He does this. :Can you see it, I don't know how this works.:

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'Clara' is already hurrying back toward the area set up for a Gate-terminus, away from Blai. She has to push her Gift pretty hard to get through the shields enough to peek through his eyes. 

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Further interrogation of Select Blai suggests alternate theory. Blai's report at face value incompatible with Death Bell. Should be less confident which side is a ruse. Could be Leareth lying, but Star-Eyed Goddess could have sent Changecreature & destroyed K'Treva. Heartstone modification affected Death Bell, could be subject to tampering. Consider possibility that Leareth is truthful & events in Haven are the trick. 

If I die in an implausible accident, I consider this evidence for the second theory.

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Which would presumably explain everything if she knew what in the world had happened in Haven! 

:Um. Who do they think died.: 

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:Vanyel. There was a Death Bell.:

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:Oh. That - no wonder they panicked.: 

A pause. 

:He's not dead. He's - in bad shape - from Yfandes - I don't know, if you knew, that she didn't make it...: 

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:It came up - eventually - they didn't tell me right away what had them so confused about my story but they heard the bell around the time we were relocating to the kyree cave. I don't have a way to guess how impaired he might be now.:

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...Huh, so before Yfandes died, meaning that's not in fact what set it off. After Vanyel was behind shields and wouldn't notice anything, but - this move wasn't in response to sending Blai. It was a pre-emptive strike. 

(Maybe "in response to" doesn't actually make sense when Foresight is in play...) 

 

:He's pretty impaired but I think he can manage if we need him urgently.: 

Pause. 

:I have to go, they'll learn I was here if they send anyone in to mindread you. But, um. I think Melody is - in trouble - I can't find her anywhere, I think they're keeping her someone exceptionally secure, and the dean of Healers' was worried about her. So I'm not hopeful that her note convinced anyone. And they probably think Leareth got to me, I don't think I can de-escalate anything if I try to talk to the Heralds, and - Leareth needs my report more urgently anyway.: 

If she asks him then the Heralds will know as soon as they question him again, but - it's not like it gives away anything they weren't already aware of, that Leareth has the capability to kidnap Blai from a shielded room in Haven. 

:Do you want us to try to get you out. Obviously it would look really bad to the Heralds, and it's possible they're at least thinking about whether Melody's right, but - you might not be safe, here, there's still the Heartstone.: 

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:Not for my sake. If I'm needed for something, make the tradeoffs that make sense, of course.:

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:I think there's still a chance you could make a big difference here. ...If that changes, we'll - figure out what makes sense. Good luck.: 

And she drops the connection, which is getting hard to hold anyway. 

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The next scheduled Gate isn't until midafternoon. However, the White Winds mage at the staging area is a young man, a fellow Journeyman student at the school when Jisa attended who has presumably made Master since then, and who - well, Jisa herself was taken by the time she went to White Winds, but he did his fair share of awkward flirting with the female students. 

Clara has prettier hair and bigger breasts and this, in addition to desperation, gives Jisa a confidence she's never had before. She is going to loiter and make conversation, and sneak in a complaint about how she had to deliver one message to the dean of Mindhealers' and couldn't even find her and now she's stuck here half the day. And then she will awkwardly flirt for dear life, and maybe if she's lucky she can convince this sweet boy (...he's older than her and actually older than Treven but he doesn't feel like it, somehow) to do an extra Gate early. 

Maybe by the time the war is over, it'll even be a funny story to share with Treven instead of a mortifying one

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She's in Waymeet just past noon. And hoping she hasn't made things spectacularly awkward for Clara forever.

She has not been struck by lightning or had a building fall on her head. The optimistic explanation is that the gods know it wouldn't even work, now that she's a White Winds Adept. The pessimistic explanation is that it's because making it back with a report isn't even going to matter. 

 

...She had not entirely thought this through. Agnetta has apparently been looking for Clara for candlemarks and is furious with her for "running off on some godforsaken Herald quest" (which seems to be what she assumed since she certainly hadn't dispatched a message for Melody.) Jisa doesn't want to make things even more awkward for Clara and also there just literally isn't an opportunity to slip away; Agnetta practically drags her back to the tiny Mindhealers' station by the ear. 

:Aroon?: Is he within range, oh good. :I - kind of need to switch back with the real Clara.:

And swear her to secrecy on everything until further notice – she could send Clara back with a report on Vanyel definitely being Vanyel, but right now it feels like anything they try in Haven will go horrifically wrong and she doesn't want to mess up Clara's entire life. 

:Can you reach Hyrryl from here? Urgent message: they think Van's dead in Haven. The Death Bell rang for him. Make sure Leareth finds that out as soon as possible.: 

And she will grit her teeth and go in to see a random patient. If anything goes really wrong, she can do an unscaffolded Gate out from a closet or something, but she's made it this far without anyone suspecting and it would be so embarrassing. 

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Everything hurts and Vanyel is drowning in it, and it doesn't stop, it goes on and on and on, but - 

 

- eventually, there's enough of a sameness to it that it starts to be possible to finish some thoughts. And Stef is holding him and that's - good - 

Also there's a redhaired woman in front of him? Trying to talk to him? Vanyel is embarrassingly unsure how long she's been there. Also his eyes are not focusing very well and for the longest time he confusedly thinks it's Melody. There's some reason that doesn't make sense but he can't make the thought hold still long enough to figure it out. 

...Eventually he manages to look at her enough to realize that it's not Melody at all, it's - she has to be a relative - why is Melody's niece here??? 

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Clara is NEVER doing anything for Jisa preceded by the words 'do you trust me' EVER EVER AGAIN. 

She is a Mindhealing trainee and specifically Melody's student, though. She can keep a lid on the internal screaming long enough to be calm and reassuring in front of HERALD-MAGE VANYEL ASHKEVRON (????!!!!!) whose Companion is somehow dead. There...isn't a right thing to say, about that. 

He's not very coherent, which makes a lot of sense, but also aaaaauughhh why is this happening to her. 

"I could do a block," she says, during a moment when he actually seems to be kind of aware that she's there and maybe remembering the question he's answering for the duration of an entire sentence. "I don't know if it would help very much, but it might - be a little easier."

Sometimes patients just need you to do something and it's not even really that the thing you did helped, it's that it's - a way to feel like they have permission to feel better, or something. 

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He needs to pull himself together, he's traumatizing the trainee Mindhealer who must be maybe fifteen and it's not like she can actually do anything to help. And that's not even the priority, there were - things - 

Focus. 

Can he manage to figure out some words to say that will get her to GO AWAY.

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It's not that hard! Clara can read a room and figure out when she's not wanted and isn't helping! She haaaaaates Jisa right now. 

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And then they're alone and he can think slightly more. 

Speaking out loud is too hard. :Stef, what did I miss.: 

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Maybe the Mindhealing student Jisa sent them for baffling Jisa reasons did help. Stef is enormously relieved and tries not to show it. 

:Well, do you remember Leareth getting here?: 

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That clears some of the cobwebs from Vanyel's head. :What? Why? He shouldn't be - why is he here?: 

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:Jisa. She figured out your comms spell - took her candlemarks - and maybe she'd had enough by then and wanted to be able to just talk. And didn't want to leave you here, I guess. She's gone to Haven.: 

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Which is another metaphorical bucket of cold water, dragging Vanyel back to the world. :She went to Haven? Why?: 

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:Secretly. Disguised as, er, that girl. Since she can do White Winds Adept illusions now - Leareth confirmed he couldn't tell at a glance. She said we needed to be in contact, find out what happened, and she had a better chance than any of Leareth's people.: 

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And apparently no one with any sense was functional enough to– well, the thing is, Leareth would have pointed out if it was a bad plan in expectation. It's - not, actually, a bad plan, compared to Leareth trying to send a spy in undetected. It's just that none of Leareth's spies are Jisa, and maybe that shouldn't make Vanyel feel like they're expendable, maybe he should have some moral consistency about the value of a person's life, AND YET. 

:When did she go? What time is it now?: 

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:She left a while before dawn. It's a bit past noon, now. ...She thought it would take candlemarks to get there and back, she's not - running late.: 

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:And Leareth's still here?: 

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:...You must have been so out of it. You really don't remember him coming in? He was fretting over you, it was kind of sweet.: 

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That mental image is not happening. 

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Stef pulls Vanyel closer and doesn't say anything for a long time. 

 

 

- then, abruptly, he tenses. 

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:What?: 

It's going to be bad news, it's going to be that Jisa is dead or Haven is a crater now or there are a bunch of gryphons bearing down on them, it feels inevitable, they weren't quite clever enough and they lost and it's–

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:Aroon just Mindspoke me. Jisa's back - er, well, stuck in Waymeet pretending to be Clara until they can swap back, it sounds like - and she knows what happened. They, um. Thought you were dead. The Death Bell rang.: 

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:Oh. I - guess Yfandes dying would probably trigger it.: 

He should be dead, it's a mistake that he's alive, something that Someone overlooked, if he was dead too it wouldn't hurt anymore

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:No! That wasn't it. It was a day and a half earlier. Around when we arrived at the kyree caves.: 

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 :But -: Nothing was even happening then, nothing that could possibly... :- Oh. The Heartstone.: 

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:Melody had the thought too, after questioning Blai. Though now she's - probably been arrested as well. We think Or possibly was struck by lightning, but Jisa thought Aber wouldn't just be worried if it were that, so hopefully...: 

Helpless shrug.

:Blai is being held with his access to magic blocked, but he was able to request new spells from his goddess anyway. Jisa thought he was - holding up all right. He opted to stay, we're - still hoping the Heralds might be talking it over and will ask the right questions...: 

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:It would convince them if I went to Haven.: 

And he absolutely cannot go to Haven. Not - like this, not already filled with the inexorable feeling that it's too late and they've lost and the world will burn no matter what they do. 

Memories of fire pressed up against the other side of a Gate. Tylendel lost his Companion, and he thought the world might as well burn along with his enemies. Vanyel...doesn't think he's quite there, but how much more would it take, for calling a Final Strike on the Heartstone to feel like a blessed release? 

Something could happen to Stef, and– he can't finish that thought. 

 

Maybe this is exactly where the Star-Eyed wanted him to end up. Not that he has any idea what burning Haven to the ground accomplishes from Her perspective. 

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Stef squeezes his shoulder. 

:No, love. You're not - you shouldn't go. It's not worth...: 

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:I shouldn't. It's not worth.: He doesn't even try to find the word that goes at the end of that sentence.

 

He closes his eyes. It doesn't help. 

:...I need to be dead.: 

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Horrified confused Stef??? 

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:I didn't mean it like that!: Or, well, mostly not. :I - need to talk to the Shadow-Lover. And - be somewhere it doesn't hurt, for a little while, where I can think. There's something we're not thinking of, there's got to be a way...:

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Hugs from his lifebonded are insufficient and he needs hugs from Death instead shut up, Stef's brain, he's not here to be a baby about this. 

:You think it's worth the risk?: 

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Snort. :I think it's barely a risk at all. Pretty sure They still need me. But I guess we should check if the kyree have Healers.: 

It wouldn't be a risk at all if Blai were here, but - it's almost easier without that. He knows how he would choose, every single time, but - he can briefly fantasize about how he might not be offered that choice, how it might really be over, maybe the gods have decided he's a liability now.

...Honestly that's probably true of the Star-Eyed Goddess, and - maybe he should be more paranoid about how likely it is that the unnamed god behind the Shadow-Lover is a part of that too - but it doesn't feel right, and he's too tired for paranoia. 

:It's a gamble. I–: Wrenching reluctance. :You have the right to ask me not to, if you can't...: 

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If he can't handle even a tiny risk of what Vanyel coped with for eighteen years. Stef isn't going to be a baby about that either. 

:I won't tell you what to do, Van.: 

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:Then we should find out about the kyree Healers.: 

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:You're not even going to wait for Jisa to get back?: She's going to be hurt and angry about that even if she thinks it was a reasonable call. 

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:It's been days and the Heralds are still escalating. I don't know how long we have. I need -: 

A miracle. If only he could talk to Blai's goddess by killing himself, She seems a lot more likely to care. 

:- I need something we haven't thought of yet. I might be able to think of it there.: 

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And he's in a place of featureless white. 

It doesn't hurt. There's no raw howling void in his mind. Yfandes isn't there, but she isn't exactly gone either. 

 

And, in fact, the thought that comes to him is one he really should have thought of the moment he had this idea. And honestly, he should have had this idea yesterday

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“Vanyel." Blue eyes in a hidden face. "I already told you the last time, this isn't really how you're supposed to do it." 

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"There's information I need to have. And the god you're a - face for? a part of? - has it. I don't know if that means you have it or if I have to talk to the horrible pillar of light again, but - are you and the other Velgarth gods against Leareth's plan because you have an arrangement with Pharasma about souls not going to their horrible afterlives?" 

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"Does that silence mean I need to talk to the pillar again?"

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"....No. I am - no." A pause. "That one was the answer to your question. Herald Vanyel, as always, you have a choice. But - I think that for once, there is information you have that is relevant first and foremost to your choice." 

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"Information that I have and you don't? Because - right. The gods can't see right now. It's all happening at - the human level - and it doesn't make much sense either but at least we can talk to the man." 

 

He closes his eyes. "I don't know what you want. I don't know what the god you speak for wants. But I think," and in his head he's addressing the blazing pillar of light, now, "I think You don't want ten million people dead. I'm - also not sure You want anything as simple as Leareth permanently dead. There were forces at cross-purposes there, weren't there? I think - I think maybe You were looking for a third way." 

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"I think - damn it! - I think it's here and You can't see it. Maybe You can't even see that Leareth is already planning to call off the whole invasion! If that's what You wanted, it's done. Except. Except there were plans already in motion, weren't there? And - the prophecies, we saw things happening and made different choices and - You, and all the other gods, probably couldn't see that either, or it would have already been taken into account and we'd have seen something else. Because it's a spell from another world. And if You knew about the other world, You wouldn't be confused about Pharasma." 

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"This is such a stupid pointless mess. Piles and piles of Foresight, steering for - gods, steering for Leareth dead forever. Was that the plan since Brightstar was born? The Star-Eyed killed his entire family, not even to drive Valdemar to war, just to - hurt one boy enough that he would, he would -" 

 

Vanyel sees it. It doesn't hurt. It's bizarre, that it doesn't hurt, it feels wrong, but - he would be flinching away from even having the thought otherwise, wouldn't he. 

 

"- He was the one in the Heartstone room. Who shielded me out in the vision. He was going to destroy Haven. To...why...to kill Leareth. Because it doesn't matter how powerful or prepared the man is, that would do it, it only makes sense if Leareth is there. I don't have the faintest idea how or why Leareth was there but -"

Another thread, sliding into place.

"- That's why the backup plan was to Final Strike. To power the god-ritual. It would work, if Leareth was there." 

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"...Is that what You wanted. A clever twist, right at the end. Forcing Leareth to finding a better way by sticking him with a baby god that would never agree to grow up by killing ten million Valdemarans." 

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"Just so you're aware, that plan is also horrible." 

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"I just - I don't - I think You didn't know. I think You couldn't know. That plan is incredibly evil, just like k'Treva, but - I'm not sure that You are. Not like the evil gods in Blai's world are. I think - I think maybe You were trying for - something better. The way Leareth is, it's not like he doesn't make plans that are horrible. And maybe, if You, actually knew, what You were doing - "

He's crying now.

"Maybe, just, if You could see the resources you have on the gameboard now, You could steer a way out of this disaster instead of deeper into it. Your first plan isn't going to work now that we know, but - You got us into this, or at least helped, and I don't know that we, the mortals involved, can get out of this on our own." 

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"...Also, I think the Star-Eyed set up to kill Yfandes so we wouldn't find out more from Haven in time, but - if You helped, or - let Her - because it would get me to kill myself and yell at You and then You'd know more..." Helpless shrug. "Maybe it's worth it but I'm pretty mad." 

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"Do you have the information you need to make your choice?" 

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Snort. "Mostly. No thanks to you. I still need to figure out how I can safely go to–"

 

"- oh. I'm an idiot."

 

"Yes." 

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In Haven, the wind stops blowing for just a moment. 

In the ancient grove by the Companions' Field, a light glows in the shadows for a moment, and fades. 

There are hoof-falls, muffled in the snow and definitely not ringing like bells, but there's still somehow a bell-like quality to them. 

 

 

The Companion stallion isn't glowing anymore, by the time he prances delicately out into the field. He's...confused. 

- there's a tug, which resolves one confusion. He starts walking. 

Not the one about why he clearly just walked out of the Grove and yet is definitely not the Groveborn. The Groveborn was never human, for one, and Seldan is....fairly sure he was? Though the confusion about what year it is now would perhaps make more sense if he could manage to dredge up what year it used to be. 

 

The tug intensifies. He breaks into a trot. Where is his Chosen? Why does he have the feeling that his Chosen is actively in danger, this is Haven and his Chosen is close (though the Call is frustratingly difficult to resolve to a specific place and he's stuck playing a stupid game of 'colder?' 'warmer?' to narrow it down) and even in his lifetime - former lifetime? how long has it been? the memories are blurry but that building is new, so is that one, that one isn't but it looked new when he knew it, not weathered and half-decrepit - the war never reached Haven itself. 

(Though there are increasingly signs that Valdemar is, once again, at war. There are a lot of Guards around, and - is that a temporary Gate-terminus? Why else would you stick two pieces of wood in a random standalone giant doorway?) 

 

The Call is almost painful now. Where is his Chosen??? 

 

- apparently, if the 'warmer' 'warmer!' 'hot!!!' feeling is to be believed, in that random Work Room. Currently under guard, for some reason - oh no did his Chosen just try to desert or something - if it was high treason they would probably not be in a random Work Room with one guard - it's very frustrating not even knowing his Chosen's gender let alone their name

:Excuse me: he says politely. :I need you to let whoever is in there out.: 

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That stallion looks...bigger and scarier, somehow...than the others, even though the Guard (whose name is Roman and who is really quite ready for his supper break, it's freezing out here and it's going to be dark soon, he haaaaates the short days after Midwinter, why are they having a war in the middle of winter again, no one asked him) has been alongside Companions whose necks he couldn't even reach, and this one isn't that huge. Just - imposing. Very very very present. 

Also talking to him directly? They don't do that. 

"I have clear non-discretionary orders to absolutely not let him out," he says. Nervously. Do Companions kick you if they get mad enough. 

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Well, it's going to be mildly irritating if he has to kick down that door. It would probably scare his Chosen and doors are expensive to fix. 

:I am fairly sure I outrank you.: 

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Aaaaaaaaaaahhh!!!??

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:I would suggest I could clear this with the Groveborn but I, in fact, just walked out of the Grove, so.: He paws at the ground a little. :Will it help if I say please?: 

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.......Yeah okay he did not signing up for facing down angry...Groveborn???...and denying them access to prisoners even if those prisoners are apparently really important for some reason. 

He backs away. 

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:I do still need you to unlock the door.: He lifts a hoof and examines it. :I think I would have difficulty.: 

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"I really think I should clear this with my senior officer first!" 

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....Aaaand he needs to decide whether he's kicking down the door or not.

He would generally prefer not, but he knows how long it can take for the chain of command to respond to confusing new inputs. The Call is less - yelly - now that he's the one guarding the door, and doesn't that have some interesting implications, but it still feels urgent. 

(What in the world is happening here?) 

He could clear it with the actual Groveborn, get orders dropped in from above in a hurry, but he doesn't seem to have landed here knowing who the actual Groveborn is. And this has got to be incredibly irregular, that might not be quick either. 

Sometimes it really does get things done fastest to ask for forgiveness rather than permission. Or, you know, not bother, since he's a Groveborn now and really should outrank quite a lot of people, at least on matters of his specific Chosen. 

 

 

The door is shielded against magic but not against a Groveborn Companion kicking it as hard as they can. It splinters. He can't actually wedge himself through the door, but he sticks his head in to get his first look at his new Chosen. ...Who's probably pretty alarmed, he should apologize. 

:I'm sorry about that. The young man guarding you very reasonably wanted to clear it with his superior officer and I judged the situation too urgent to wait. I'll make sure to clear everything up after.: 

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His Chosen appears to have been sitting alone in the dark, kneeling in prayer. He leaps to his feet. :Is there an emergency - who are you -:

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:My name is Seldan and I'm here to Choose you.: 

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:- I'm taken!:

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Wow, is the Grove sending him to poach someone else's Herald? Rude! 

...He checks. 

:No, you aren't. Definitely no Companion-bond. If there's some other complication I'm afraid you'll have to fill me in, I just woke up in the Grove and inferred there's a war going on from all the troops everywhere.: He gives a clearly-telegraphed glance around the bare Work Room, at the mattress on the floor. :Clearly this situation is irregular in several ways.: 

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:I mean, I'm a cleric, I'm a Select of Iomedae - I'm from another planet -:

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:Is that supposed to be a disqualification? That sounds very intriguing! I've never met anyone from another planet before! And it does explain why you're important, though not why they're holding you prisoner.:

Squint. It turns out Companions - or at least mysterious extra Groveborn - have additional senses, and it's taken him to long to figure out what he's seeing. 

:Wait, did they put Mindhealing blocks on you?: His mindvoice is so offended. 

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:To stop me from casting spells in the event that I'm compromised.:

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Pause.

:I think I must be Called to you to fix something , but I'm fairly sure it's not that.: 

 

And - maybe a man from another world doesn't know - he's going to bounce over the feeling of the Call. The soaring sense that this is his person, that the entire core of him is wrapped around that, the bone-deep certainty that he's here for something and it's this and it's - perfect, glorious, the whole world falling into alignment - 

(On an emotional level. On an intellectual level, Seldan has questions.) 

- he hasn't looked into his Chosen's mind yet, it seemed like one really ought to at least introduce oneself first, and then his Chosen had concerns and - this moment should be right, not forced over objections - but the objections don't change anything, from Seldan's perspective. If anything it's actually very appropriate that Seldan's Chosen would be someone who feels a need to debate the whole thing with him first. 

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:Are you... here to solve the problem where plausibly the Star-Eyed Goddess has been manipulating the Web through the Heartstone attached to it to cause a war between Valdemar and the archmage in the north? That seems like the pressing one at the moment but I don't know how having feelings at me could possibly affect it.:

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So! Many! Questions! 

:I imagine the idea is to send a costly signal that you are not, in fact, compromised, because a serious downside of the Companion system is the tendency Heralds have to only trust people who also have Companions. ...All right, that comes out weirder now that I am one, but it's still true.:

Pause. Hard look at Blai.

:That may be a flaw in the system but the part where I love you isn't, actually, it makes people stronger to have at least one person who's unconditionally there for them. I don't think being from another world makes that any less true of you.: 

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What does that have to do with ANYTHING. Why does this horse claim to love him. What is going ON. :Whose idea, exactly, is it.:

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:Oh, there've been thousands of words of debate written on who or what sends the Companions' calls: he wrote quite a lot of them, :I'm not sure it's ever been settled. One of the gods, all of the godsan emergent intelligence in the Web, the force of Foresight itself. Is the answer to that relevant to whether you want to be Chosen?: 

He won't, in fact, Choose this man if he isn't on board with it, and sends that wordlessly. It won't make the man any less Seldan's Chosen, that part isn't under his control, but he doesn't have to take the final leap and make himself this man's Companion. He could just be around and - offer ethics advice? Glare at people who try to block his magic with Mindhealing? Attend negotiations with - since when is there an archmage in the north, anyway? 

...He really really wants to actually Choose him, though. 

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:Of course it is! A lot of gods are Evil! The ones on this planet do not disclose their allegiances or their motives and frequently operate as an anonymous mass! I just mentioned that one of the local ones may be manipulating Valdemar into a war! If this is one of those's idea of a charming intervention it is not remotely wise to allow it to go through!:

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:Wow. That would be a bizarre choice. I–: Probably he's not really supposed to just say this outright but the man is from another world. :I hate war. When I was alive, in my old age I wrote several books about how wars are a terrible idea and you should avoid them if you can do literally anything else. ...I was very good at it. Fighting a war, I mean. Which means I have an even more exhaustive list of all the ways in which wars are a terrible idea. I don't know Whose intervention this is, but the fact that whatever it was sent me seems like some evidence of what it's for.: 

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:When you were alive?! Are you an undead on top of everything else??:

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:I'm...a...Companion? That's how Companions usually work? Possibly this still isn't common knowledge among the Heralds but it was always bloody obvious to me, I think it took a month before I confronted my Companion about it. She used to be a weather-mage and an expert on birds and all her analogies were from one or the other, and there was only one Herald-Mage in the records who'd written a treatise on birds. I imagine the system finds it efficient to reuse us, since we already know the ropes.: 

Pause. 

:...I'm getting the sense neither of us has nearly enough context to make good decisions here, though. May I offer you a ride to go find the Groveborn so I can find out what's going on, and you fill me in on your side of things on the way?: 

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:I feel it is actually pretty important that you be definitely and explicitly alive before I go anywhere with you, creatures that are not definitely alive are a serious problem on my planet and I am far too confused to be confident that I can overlook this as a minor terminological difference.:

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:Your planet sounds deeply concerning.: 

He steps outside - he can guard the door better and maybe alarm his Chosen less by sounding reminiscent of "undead", which indeed sound pretty horrifying - and loosens his shields for the first time since he stepped out of the Grove. 

 

There are a lot of Companions in Haven! When he last remembers, there were barely over fifty Heralds in the whole kingdom. He has a feeling there might be more Kingdom now, too. 

The Groveborn is Rolan, apparently. Seldan did not get an incredibly positive impression of Rolan from the histories immediately preceding his own era; in his time the Groveborn was Allora. 

 

:Rolan? Terribly sorry to disturb you, but I need someone to come confirm for my Chosen that I'm alive.: 

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Damn it, what is it now

(Dara spent this entire morning reviewing plans for moving forces north until she went cross-eyed. And they're all running on about four candlemarks of sleep because Melody made...choices...and then someone had to figure out what to do about it. She is not in a good mood.) 

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Rolan's mindvoice is...odd. 

:A Companion appeared in the Grove a few minutes ago. He demanded entry to the Work Room where we were holding Select Blai and, when this was denied, forced entry, apparently with the intention of Choosing him.: 

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.........What. 

:Wait, so there's a second Groveborn?: 

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:Not exactly. Or, Groveborn in the literal sense, but not built as I am to lead the herd. It - has been known to happen before, in sufficient emergencies, when there was no suitable unbonded Companion in the herd.: 

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:What, really?: Dara hadn't known that. :What does that...mean. Is there any possibility this is a trick, too?: 

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:He appeared in the Grove. I might prefer if he had alerted me immediately, but - Companions that arrive under such circumstances are often unusually willful.: He sounds disapproving. 

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:So it's...not a trick. Which means...?: 

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:That Select Blai would be a Herald, if he had agreed to it.: 

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:He refused the Choosing?: 

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:He has concerns to address first, apparently. I am on my way there to confirm that the new Companion is not 'undead'. ...He is in the Web, so - everything appears to be in order.:  

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:Right. That's...good, then...: 

 

Dara rubs her eyes. It takes her several seconds to form the rest of her current thought. 

:Rolan! That means he's not– does this mean he wasn't mind-controlled or tricked by Leareth?: It feels like it has to mean something. :That he's...: 

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Rolan is doing that frustrating thing where he's not actively shielding her out but is radiating being too busy to answer questions right now. 

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Also now Tran is trying to get her attention too, with a rather urgent rapping at her shields. 

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:WHAT: 

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:Word on the relay.: Tran's mindvoice is also very odd. :It's - there's -: 

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:Sorry, I didn't mean to snap at you. What is it?: 

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Very stiffly:

:A party arrived in Waymeet. Claiming to be Vanyel and Bard Stefen. They're willing to be read by a Thoughtsenser. And - willing to come to Haven, if we sent Melody to block Vanyel's mage-gift, that was the condition.: 

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But that - 

 

 

does fit, actually. Like an artist drawing one of those weird illusion-drawings that could be a beautiful maiden or an old crone, depending on the angle, and then adding a touch that resolves it fully into just one of them. 

:Because he's worried that otherwise he could be pushed into Final Striking the Heartstone. Like in the vision.: 

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:He - apparently - said that 'the conditions for it probably don't hold' and didn't explain further. But as a precaution. Otherwise Stef will come alone.: 

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:So we could at least check that it's really him, and the lifebond.: 

Dara feels like she's falling. 

She's pretty sure, now, that they've made a terrible mistake. 

...Were about to make a terrible mistake? Maybe it wasn't quite made, yet. The armies are in place but they haven't, yet, moved to attack. 

 

 

:...Pass word back: she sends dully. :If a Thoughtsenser who's met both of them before thinks it's really them, then - um - Melody is going to be really mad but she'll go. We need Vanyel's side of the story.: 

 

 

Also it sounds like she owes Select Blai an apology, but what if his Companion kicks her in the teeth she's going to be a coward and fall back on having one conversation, once Vanyel is here. 

(If it's really Van, then it was really Yfandes who– ...deal with that later. She owes a lot of people a lot of apologies. In the meantime, it's not suspicious - not even surprising - that he's still moving anyway, though it does do a lot to explain why it took them almost an entire day.) 

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Rolan will come over and stiffly convey in Mindspeech that Seldan is indeed alive and Companions are...indeed...usually reincarnated Heralds, though going around telling people is usually not the done thing. Does Select Blai need more than that? 

(Rolan does not offer Blai an apology.) 

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Well if he's offering apparently he needs to be authorized to leave this slightly dented Work Room. Can he have that.

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He is authorized to leave the Work Room. Rolan seems to be saying this on autopilot as much as anything else.

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:I did some asking around, and you apparently have guest quarters that haven't been reassigned, but I won't fit, though I don't mind talking through a wall. I had vaguely intended to go rudely interrupt some meetings and demand to know what people were thinking, but mostly because it would be satisfying to me personally, and I could work up a much better rant once you've filled me in on what in the world happened here. Anywhere in particular you want to go?: 

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He collects his Acts. :The accommodations weren't really the problem but they won't keep the cold out, uh, any more, and I have an Endure Elements prepared but can't cast it.: Which would be why he's shivering involuntarily. :I'm not sure who at present most badly needs to know - oh, possibly I should check on Enara -:

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Seldan is not really sorry about the door and just has a new grievance to add to his list of complaints about the Companion instantiation, namely 'the Call could really stand to be more specific about what the emergency is and whether kicking down a door will help.'

:Enara is -: quick flicker of conversations with the other Companions in his head, he could really get used to this, :- is in a barn this way, apparently. I don't know your relationship to her and I think everyone else might be too embarrassed to catch me up.: 

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:She and I arrived together to deliver reports - she's Herald Jisa's Companion, it's -

- look, I'm pretty concerned at the moment with who you work for, I have some reason to be concerned about that question as regards arbitrary Companions, is that a question you can answer for me.:

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The first answer that comes to him is the sarcastic one, because apparently even becoming a Companion hasn’t changed that. 

Seldan steps on it. This is clearly very serious to his Chosen, and he ought to be serious about it too.

:I have a philosophy. That I don’t - that no one ever really works for anyone. You can be loyal to someone or something, and loyalty is important, but there’s no way to abdicate your conscience, and anyone who thinks they can do that is lying to themselves. I work with the King and the Heralds, and what we work on is Valdemar’s future. But that’s an accident of my birth, in a sense, I could have been Rethwellani. The only thing I work for is doing the right thing.:

Pause.

:…That being said, I’m a Companion of Valdemar, and - it seems that means I absolutely work for you. Not that I intend to be the stupid kind of loyal, to be clear. That’s new, obviously, so I ought to - think, a minute, if there’s anything else…:

Longer pause.

:Not that I’ve noticed, at least not yet. Think it’s just me in here apart from the Companion-bond – I thought there might be more enforced loyalty to Valdemar as well, but I don't notice anything. ...If there's a particular concern you've got, might not be a bad idea to - push the point now. Find out sooner rather than later.: 

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:I work for Iomedae, the goddess of triage and victory over Evil. Admittedly a lot of things you say sound sort of like things from Her holy book. I'm in Valdemar by accident and in a few weeks I'm going to be late for a political responsibility on my home planet in my home country, though, I can't plan to stay here if I could reasonably return. It's - Iomedae doesn't mind people having magic sapient horses, She dispenses them on a fairly routine basis albeit usually to paladins not clerics, but that's fine as far as it goes. I'm just terribly suspicious of whoever is attempting to dispense you, because it wasn't Her.

I think you should talk to Enara.: Tucking his fingers into his armpits against the winter he trudges in the indicated direction.

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SO. MANY. QUESTIONS.

...Oh no his Chosen is cold. This is bothering him a weird amount, like an itch, even though objectively speaking the man isn't going to freeze on a ten-minute trek through the Palace grounds. Is this why Companions always act like your mother about things? ...Is this how mothers feel about their literal toddlers who are constantly making the sorts of decisions toddlers make, that sounds agonizing. 

Companions do apparently come with the ability to try to keep their Chosen warm! It really doesn't seem like this is nearly as much of a big deal as Seldan's new Companion emotions seem to think it is, but it's still sufficiently neat to have that ability at all that, sure, he'll radiate body heat at his Chosen just to test if it works. 

 

:I'm also suspicious about that, the more I think about it. It's very unusual for Companions to appear in the Grove fully-grown like I did, if they're not the Monarch's Own Companion.: 

It seems unlikely but not entirely impossible that the goddess Iomedae - who sounds a lot more interesting than any of the gods followed in Valdemar in his hazy memories of living as a Herald - was somehow involved? The closest thing to a consensus belief at the time was that it was a joint project of many gods, since 'many gods' was what King Valdemar had prayed to, and - it's not impossible They take constructive criticism on the handling of what sounds like an utter mess. 

He keeps walking, and musing without saying anything to his Chosen, until they're almost there and he's interrupted by an actually pertinent Mindspeech communiqué. 

 

:- Do you know a Melody? Apparently she's looking for you, and in a hurry, she's been summoned north for some reason.: By Gate, which explains why it's worth hurrying for a journey that would take days overland. Why are there so many Gates here, anyway, it's baffling. 

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:...not by name but I am willing to be findable?:

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Seldan will ask around until one of the Companions can bounce them a mental image. Red hair, Healers' robes but with...yellow trim? He has no idea what that means. :This person.: 

And they've reached the barn! For some deeply confusing reason, a Rethwellani mage in robes is guarding it?? 

:Excuse me. Circumstances recently changed and the Companion you're guarding is being released. You can check that with your superiors if you want, but we need to speak with her urgently.: 

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:I know that person, she interrogated me last night.:

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The White Winds mage on duty right now is a Mindspeaker, and so has some idea that surprising and confusing new events are happening. She's honestly pretty worried about it! But standing in the way of a very large, very angry-looking Companion does not seem like a good place to intervene. She'll do a pro forma Mindspeech check and then let them into the barn. 

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It's great to be listened to. 

:Do you want to be findable by her?: Seldan asks while they're waiting. :I can find out why she's looking for you, but the Companion who alerted me wasn't sure.: 

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:Probably? Yes. I came here intending to give a complete report, the interrogation wasn't not that.: He's standing quite close to Seldan's side to absorb the radiated warmth.

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Then he'll pass along their location. There's...probably...a perfectly good explanation for why his Chosen was being interrogated by a Healer. But only probably. It seems like some of what's been happening around here cannot possibly have a good explanation except the kind of temporary insanity people sometimes pull out under enough stress. 

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The mage lets them in, looking unhappy about it. 

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Enara - doesn't rush to the door at first, even though she wants to, because she's still trying to look as meek and cooperative as possible. 

 

- they've let Blai out! That's got to be good news - she will hurry over - 

 

...She doesn't know that Companion. Which makes no sense. 

:I - wait - are you a Groveborn, did Rolan–: 

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:Rolan is alive and well.: He doesn't add 'unfortunately' or anything like that; he doesn't actually mean it and it's petty. :I did appear in the Grove, but I'm not the Groveborn. Seldan, a pleasure to meet you.: 

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Glance at Blai. 

Glance at the new not-actually-a-Groveborn. 

Glance at Blai again. 

 

:Wait, are you...?: 

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:I've been trying to Choose this man for half a candlemark but he has concerns to address first, particularly 'who I work for'. ...And, honestly, I have some concerns too. What's been happening around here? I'm told that some gods are trying to manipulate Valdemar into a war - how in the world did you all get yourselves into that situation -: 

He and Enara are both including Blai on all of this, though it's otherwise private Mindspeech. 

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That feels a bit unfair. 

:It's a really long story. Though - I know what Blai is worried about, I think.: 

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Blai! He has a name for his Chosen now! 

 

:Go on?: 

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Enara fidgets, her tail twitching.  

:I - want to be careful - it can be difficult if you hit it wrong, though I suppose there's a limit to how bad it is for him if you haven't actually Chosen him yet. I - what do you think it means, that some gods are trying to drive us to war?: 

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What sort of a bizarre question is that. 

:That I was clearly missing a lot of context on gods? I mean, I never had much time for religion. But I wasn't aware that gods cared about geopolitics, let alone had ways to do something about it in a place like Valdemar - unless the laws changed and we're explicitly religious now? No? ...All right, what exactly have They been doing?: 

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This seems to be going...better than Enara would have expected? There's no discomfort there, just confusion. 

:We believe that the Star-Eyed Goddess sent a Changecreature out of the Pelagirs to assassinate the King's five-year-old daughter - who's also the heir to Karse, there's an alliance marriage. And also destroyed a Tayledras Vale and killed several hundred of her own people, and most likely killed a Companion to block our communications. We were supposed to think that the mage in the north who was previously planning to invade us was responsible. ...Well, not for the last thing, that was later.: 

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The King of Valdemar is in an alliance marriage with the Queen of Karse??? - not important right now. 

:How do you know about– you had allies among the Tayledras? Don't they just kill anyone who tries to bother them?:

It was a real problem, last he remembers, with the Pelagirs pressing up against Valdemar's western half. ...Probably less so, now, it's been - centuries, he thinks. 

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:I think there were exceptional circumstances, with one of our Herald-Mages decades ago, they - were able to get on good terms.: 

 

In hindsight, how far back does the godplot go? How much of that decades-long friendship was steered into place to - well, ensuring Vanyel's survival, that was probably important, and later on the Heartstone and a path to much greater influence within Valdemar proper? 

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:The goddess has an - agreement of some kind with the Tayledras, no? And they’re Her followers.:

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:Mmm-hmm.:

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:...If a human king ordered something like - all of that - I would definitely call it an act of war.: 

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:....And?: 

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:I hate war and if I've been dragged back here specifically because Valdemar needs to go to war with the Star-Eyed Goddess, I'm going to be so peeved.: 

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:...You being here at all is almost certainly a godintervention.: 

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:I had that thought too! I'm at a loss. ...Well, They probably aren't actually a monolith even if we can't tell the difference from way down here. If Valdemar is being dragged into a war between some gods, that's even worse.: 

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...Enara turns back to Blai. 

:I'm fairly sure he just doesn't have whatever - mental block - we usually come with. I'm really confused - it's not because he came out of the Grove directly, Rolan is Groveborn and seems to be even worse - but it...does make this look friendlier...?: 

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:I guess! Thank you for - checking that - I suppose if nothing else I've mentioned is an impediment either like my having business on another planet then I can - fail my save or whatever the next part is? -:

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:Nothing you've said is an impediment.: Going to explore another world and advise Blai on his political duties there sounds vastly better than trying to figure out whether it's even possible for Valdemar to go to war with a goddess. 

He's slightly concerned by how Blai seems to be thinking about it, though. :All you need to do is look at me and be willing. But you can take more time to think about it, if you need to, I'm - not in a hurry.: That is very debatably true, sitting on the Call is actually a bit painful at this point, but he's not going to make that Blai's problem. 

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:I'm sure I'm missing scores of possible things to think about because I've known your species existed for less than a week, but I don't know what things they are or if any of them are material to the situation!:

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:Unfortunately I'm also not sure what you don't know that every Valdemaran would. ...Enara, is it obvious to you that he hasn't fully accepted the Choosing? If it's not going to be a problem with the other Companions, then there's even less reason to rush.: 

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Squint. 

:Nnnnno, I don't think so? Rolan could tell, I think. ...You know what, Blai, you should talk to Vanyel, if - that ends up even being possible, and he's up for it. He didn't even want to be a Herald, at the start. There were reasons it had to be rushed in his case, but - I agree it's better not to.: 

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Blai is uncomfortable about something to do with how they're discussing this and Seldan has NO IDEA WHAT because he continues to not be reading Blai's mind.

This would be so much easier to navigate right now if the bond was two-way but it's not urgent, Blai isn't in imminent life-threatening danger that Seldan can only help with by being in full rapport or able to send him energy directly - 

(He's just noticed that he can see nodes now and could probably tap them if he wanted, and is fairly sure that's not a standard-issue Companion ability, neat!) 

- anyway, if it's rushed and pressured while Blai is still uncomfortable with it, then he can't ever redo it under better circumstances, and ignoring the Call is unpleasant but so would be sharing his head with someone who's upset about it. 

 

:Should I know who Vanyel is?: 

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Is he sure about that. Blai's so Chelish, you see. It would be easy to be mistaken about whether he was inexplicably uncomfortable.

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Oh, he wouldn't be able to tell at all just from body language. He just can't actually turn off his Companion senses, and Blai doesn't shield against Empathy and is very, very attention-grabbing for Seldan right now. 

(Continuing to not straight-up read his surface thoughts is actually somewhat effortful, now that Seldan has his own shields open for the constant Companion background chatter.) 

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Where do you even start with explaining Vanyel? 

 

...Enara is just going to pull Seldan into rapport and start shoving information and memories at him, that's a lot faster and easier than putting it in words and including Blai, and means she doesn't need to worry about leaving out things that Vanyel might be self-conscious about Blai knowing. 

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And a harried-looking Melody has a chance to catch up to them in the barn, which is now reasonably warm thanks to being sheltered from the wind and containing two Companions both radiating body heat at it. 

(She's fine. Really. She was locked in a shielded room for the entire day with no idea what was happening outside, but it was a perfectly comfortable room and they let her have a book. It's no one else's business whether she's still coldly furious and repeatedly stomping on the urge to say "I told you so.") 

:Blai? Oh, good, they did actually let you out as well, I wasn't sure if they'd just stuck you in with Enara. Did you know about Vanyel yet?: 

She notices that there's another Companion with Enara now but doesn't otherwise register it. 

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:What about him?:

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:He's in Waymeet. Offered to come down here on - a few conditions - that's what I'm needed for.:

Pause. :And my granddaughter sent me a letter. I haven't the faintest idea how she ended up tangled up in all this, she did not explain, but she was with the Mindhealers' station in Waymeet. Anyway, I realized once I opened it that it's more or less just a note from Vanyel, but in my cipher. Reckon they didn't want all of it on the Mindspeech relay just yet.: 

She tugs the note out of her pocket and unfolds it. :I can read it to you and Enara, though, you ought to know.: 

Except for the section which is just a Mindhealing-notation description of VANYEL'S BROKEN COMPANION-BOND. To be clear, the issue isn't including that in a letter; that's what the cipher is actually for, and why she taught it to all her students. The issue is who thought it was a good idea to have a trainee handle that!!! 

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The woman is Mindspeaking privately to Enara and Blai and not including Seldan. Which is probably fair, she has no idea who he is. 

Seldan examines the woman for a while before it clicks. Ohhhhh. She's a Mindhealer. That's probably what the yellow trim on her robes means. He really should have made the connection sooner, given what Gift was used to block Blai's magic. It was just not obvious because last he was aware, there were two Mindhealers in the entire kingdom, they weren't even slightly in the Heralds' chain of command and were only loosely affiliated with the Healers' Collegium, and even on the off chance one of them was in Haven rather than out on circuit at the time, everyone would think you were insane if you tried to pull them off their actual duties to handle an interrogation. 

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:What are his conditions?:

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:That I block his mage-gift. That part was on the relay, I believe it's mainly so he can't be cornered into Final Striking at any problems that come up, but as a side benefit, it should placate anyone who's still worried he's been suborned by Leareth, regardless of whether that even makes sense. And - this is the secret part - that I pass a private message to Herald-Mage Savil asking her to revoke Brightstar's access to the Web, preferably in a way he won't notice if he's elsewhere in Haven.:

Her hands dart to her hair like restless birds. :Fortunately that seems to be redundant, because someone here hasn't been a complete idiot. Savil reported to me that last night, after I woke everyone with the report from questioning you, she couldn't get back to sleep anyway, and decided to go add some of the usual safeguards to our Heartstone. Now it would need the 'signoff' of every active Herald-Mage in Valdemar to modify anything at the level required to destabilize it on purpose. If anything is worth her having to handle today on two candlemarks of sleep, it's that.: 

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:........as a third circle spell I can prepare Nap Stack which makes an area in which two hours of sleep is as effective as eight. It requires a - ridiculously expensive pillow - and if no one here can cast it I don't know why anyone would have one, but if someone wanted to sew a ridiculously expensive pillow, which they would not get back afterwards, and there's nothing else I need the slot for tomorrow...:

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:...Your magic is so fascinating. I - actually can think of someone who might have a stupidly expensive pillow.:

Lady Treesa inexplicably gave her a tiny gold-leaf-coated sculpture of a fluffy lapdog as a gift last Harvestfest. Not even because she knows Melody is Vanyel's Mindhealer and wanted to express gratitude. She's just like that. 

:Anyway.: Glance down at the note. :I think you'll want to hear the rest of what he said.: And she'll translate it over in Mindspeech. 

I am not sure how much the following should be spread around, and will trust your judgement on it, since you're more up to date on the state of things in Haven. I think you ought to tell Savil, Enara, and Blai, unless you have reasons to think that's a terrible idea, in which case don't. 

I was able to contact the Shadow-Lover via my usual method. 

:- Sidenote, his usual method is killing himself a little bit. The Shadow-Lover is - an avatar of a god, whose main purpose seems to be talking to the spirits of Heralds - and probably other Valdemarans - after they die. Unless you're Vanyel, in which case the Shadow-Lover will give you cryptic frustrating tidbits of information and send you back because you're not done. And Vanyel discovered a few years back that he can kill himself on purpose and go yell at him. Anyway, moving on–: 

I was mostly hoping for some breathing space to think, and gambling that the Shadow-Lover's god still isn't done with me. I did end up getting some answers, though. I was able to confirm that the Shadow-Lover's god, at least, is not aware of any agreement with the gods of Blai's world that exempts souls here from their afterlife system (and thus keeps them out of the evil afterlives.) Blai has more context; it was a possibility he raised with us, as a reason why our world's gods might be against Leareth's plan, but I think we can rule it out now. 

This is still partly conjecture, but my current belief is that the Shadow-Lover's god has been working at cross-purposes from the Star-Eyed Goddess and likely from Vkandis. They certainly aren't our friend or, in Blai's terminology, a good god, but I have updated to believe that They don't want Leareth dead. I believe that the Star-Eyed Goddess was steering to have Leareth end up in Haven while not immortal and use the Heartstone to finish him off, and the Shadow-Lover's god (hereafter "Shadowgod" for brevity) was allowing this in order to steer for an extremely specific outcome where Leareth and I would both be desperate enough to perform the god-ritual on an emergency basis as the only way to stop Brightstar from destroying Haven in his attempt to kill Leareth. Most likely with my mind as the template, which would force Leareth to carry out his plans in ways I would countenance, as I imagine was the Shadowgod's goal. 

This is obviously not going to happen now, and was probably off-track at the very latest from the point when Blai cast the second prophecy spell. I currently believe that our gods are very limited in how well They can perceive downstream effects of Blai's actions in Foresight, which explains why They have been steering for what I imagine were the original plans even once that was obviously insane. I have done my best to convey to the Shadowgod that we aren't planning to march to Their orders, but that I recognize we have a common enemy. 

If my gamble here pays off, we may actually get some friendly godinterventions to help untangle the mess in Haven. 

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That's really a lot to take in. :So... Seldan is a... friendly... Shadowgod... intervention?... have They got another name, that one has a really unfortunate collision.:

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:...Seldan?: 

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Enara gestures with her muzzle at the other Companion. :This is Seldan. He appeared in the Grove half a candlemark ago and is apparently here to Choose Blai.: 

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What? But that doesn't - 

 

...Melody turns her Sight on the new Companion. That - sure is a Companion bond. More accurately, half of a Companion-bond. It's not actually hooked up on Blai's end yet, and the tassels of it are stretching in a direction that doesn't exist in ordinary space, rippling in an imaginary wind. It looks bizarre

:Oh. I - imagine this is a friendly intervention, then.: She tugs her sleeve straight; she's still very fidgety, it happens when she's stressed (and hasn't had enough chava because she was LOCKED IN A ROOM ALL DAY.) :I'm not aware of the Shadow-Lover or associated god having another name. They...aren't actually worshipped directly, at all as far as I can tell.:

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:But it's not clear to me what me having a Companion accomplishes exactly. Also this is a very strange way to relate to gods on every level.:

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:From my perspective it's on the gods to tell us if They want to be related to differently. Or, you know, to behave better.: 

She glances at the new Companion again. Seldan, apparently. That name feels weirdly familiar.

:Having a Companion means you'll be automatically be considered trustworthy anywhere in Valdemar. Which is presumably why you're not locked in a Work Room anymore - I was surprised, I expected to have to win an argument about that. Companions are generally rather useful, in a purely logistical sense – they can Mindspeak long range for you, they have nearly eidetic memories, they have remarkable speed and stamina for travel, and they're leaps and bounds above ordinary horses in a fight.  Also, as a Herald I expect you'd be able to cast a Truth Spell, even Heralds with no Gifts to speak of can do it – though that part might or might not only work here and not in your world. I assume the Companion is fine with you needing to return to your world sooner or later, or he'd have given up already?: 

Also, most Heralds get a lot out of the emotional intimacy and having someone who's always there for them, but Melody has a feeling Blai will just be confused if she tries to explain that. 

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:- oh. It's like having a Lawful Good aura that people here can see?:

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:...Huh. Yes, I think that's right.: 

She frowns. :You should know the downsides, too.: 

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Enara interjects. :The - difficulty with questioning the gods - isn't a problem. Seldan didn't seem to have it at all.: 

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:...Huh. Suppose that makes sense, it would be pretty incompetent as a friendly intervention otherwise.: 

Melody turns back to Blai, serious. :It's rare that Companions get themselves killed when their Herald doesn't, they're very tough, but - it's very bad. I'm not sure if you have any context on how bad it is, if your world doesn't have any kind of soulbonds. A broken bond is - like a serious injury, but to your mind, and it doesn't really get better. It's not necessarily disabling, sometimes people can work around it: albeit in all cases she was aware of, people who had additional mitigating soulbonds to lean on, :but it's - hard enough to bear that many people who've experienced it end up not wanting to be alive.: 

Pause. 

:- It is apparently possible to non-destructively withdraw a Companion-bond, unlike lifebonds which genuinely are permanent. It's not something most Companions can do on demand, but - if yours came out of the Grove, he might be more like Rolan. Possibly you should ask about that.:

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:Wizards who lose a familiar are often noticeably impaired about this for weeks and sometimes resist acquiring a new one for years if they have that luxury? I... am not acquainted with more severe instances. ...do you have any way to ballpark how tough? How does this interact with - I guess you don't have resurrection spells - if we get in touch with Golarion I'm going to need Yfandes's body and a pile of gold or negotiable gemstones, I can use a scroll of Raise Dead - if I get access to her body before that I can keep it intact longer and use the less expensive spell over a longer time horizon.

This assumes that I get to cast any spells, at all, in the foreseeable future, which might have been part of the intent of sending Seldan if it's important that I heal the King today or something but doesn't seem to have happened as a result yet.:

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That sounds vaguely similar but a lot less severe - honestly, Melody would never ever recommend this to anyone otherwise, but she's almost inclined to suggest that once Vanyel makes it to Haven, Blai should have him bounce over what it feels like. Her sense is that Blai can judge for himself whether he could function around it, and - if her read on him is right, he's like Vanyel in an important sense: if it's tactically useful to have a Companion and all the attendant benefits, he wouldn't consider it relevant that he might experience emotional pain over it if something goes wrong. 

- and then Melody's entire thread of thought stumbles to a halt. 

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She manages to just barely catch the rest of Blai's answer. 

:- Oh, I'm so sorry, I should really have opened with that - I got distracted, in my defense I haven't had any more sleep than Savil.: She did try to nap while she was under arrest, but they hadn't put her in a room with a bed and the armchair wasn't actually comfortable enough to sleep in. :I'm here to undo the blocks before I go north.: She won that argument handily. 

 

:...We don't have resurrection spells. That - changes a lot of things - but, er, yes, one of the implications, if it works on Companions at all and I don't see why it shouldn't, is that the broken bond would only be temporary. I, um. Assume we can get Yfandes' body to Haven promptly, if that's important.: 

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:There's a spell that works without remains but it's ninth circle. ...who should I be talking to about estimating the conversion rate to local currency for these scrolls or castings to determine if anyone else is worth bringing back?:

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:...Herald Joshel, I think. I think it can probably wait until everyone has had slightly more sleep? Anyway. Should I take the blocks off before we do anything else?:

She really really really should have done that first so this poor man could have the rest of the conversation with his magic and without the uncertainty on whether he would be allowed back his magic in the next day

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:Please.:

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She's going to do that right now, then.

(She's not quite as good at precision as Nayoki, and it does very faintly feel like the barn walls are going soft around him.)

It takes about two minutes, and then Blai can cast his spells again. 

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...he's going to lean on Seldan a bit, it seems socially acceptable to do that all round and he's not positive about keeping his feet.

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Guidance!

Also an Endure Elements. It's quicker and less awkward than asking after his coat.

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Awwww. Seldan will be such a good stable surface for leaning on. 

(And very happy about this, but carefully not projecting it, Blai has not agreed to anything yet and "it will make Seldan very happy" should be at most a very minor input into his decision.) 

 

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Oh good! 

:Right, where were we? Vanyel is coming to Haven with some precautions and will reassure all the Heralds that he's alive: albeit not exactly well, :and then probably you should talk to him before making a decision, for - context on how bad a broken Companion-bond is. And then I'm hoping we can all meet and figure out how to walk back all the preparations for war with Leareth.: 

Which she's not at all convinced will go smoothly even if all the Heralds are convinced, but she's also way too tired to worry about it right now. 

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:Thank you.

Who should I talk to about potentially healing the King?:

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:Follow me, I have a Gate to catch and can find someone to pass you along to on the way.: 

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He's very happy that Blai has his magic back! That seems important. 

:Did you want to ride me?: He doesn't have a saddle because apparently the Grove doesn't helpfully spawn those and he hasn't at any point stopped for it. :- Also do you mind if I ask Enara to catch me up on the conversation? Melody wasn't including me and I wasn't sure if that was because it was private. ...Normally I would know everything you do, but since you haven't made a decision yet, I'm avoiding reading your mind.: 

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:I don't have any other way to talk to you, you should probably read my mind more liberally when you're not sure, though I've been told it's unpleasant. Enara, please go ahead and tell him what's going on. And I'm not a very skilled rider but -: He'll haul himself up.

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Seldan can kneel to make it easier - the ground is slippery and it's now completely dark outside - and is also capable of moving smoothly and carefully enough that a toddler probably wouldn't fall. 

:I can pick up what you're deliberately sending at me, and Enara can catch me up for now. ...I do suspect the Companion nature means I'm incapable of finding your mind unpleasant.:

Rapport is two-way enough that he's going to continue holding off on leaking any of his impatience at Blai. It doesn't even make sense to be impatient and he's not sure why the Call mechanism works that way. It's too bad that Vanyel's method for talking to the Shadow-Lover is costly enough that he probably shouldn't do it again just so Seldan can register more constructive criticism. 

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Enara can very efficiently catch him up, yes. 

:And I may want to go north with Melody: she adds to all of them, :unless Rolan says otherwise, or you would rather I stay.: The last part addressed mostly to Blai. :I would rather not spend longer four hundred miles away from Jisa unless I have to. Unless she's also coming to Haven, you didn't mention...?: 

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:Nothing in the letter about her, no, and I didn't hear that she was with them in Waymeet.: 

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:- Oh, you probably didn't know - she was in Haven earlier today. Disguised as your granddaughter.: 

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:Disguised as - oh, of course she was the one who dragged Clara into this! I'm going to have words with her later.: 

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:Anyway, my guess is that Jisa decided to stay up north so she can be our point of contact with Leareth. And I'd rather not be four hundred miles away unless you still need me here.: 

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:I don't know any specific reason you might still be necessary here. Thank you for accompanying me thus far.:

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:You're welcome.: He has Seldan for translation now and can cast his spells and the Heartstone has been explosion-proofed and it seems like...maybe...things are going to be okay? 

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They reach the Gate staging-area. Dara is there, having an argument in Mindspeech with one of the White Winds mages.

She holds up an apologetic hand to the woman and turns to the new arrivals. :Melody.:

Okay she needs to APOLOGIZE even if it's an incredibly awkward inadequate apology because she's failing to think of a graceful way to handle it and Rolan isn't helping. Any apology is better than just ignoring it. Do it. Do it. 

:...I'm sorry about today. Um. Are you ready for the Gate north?: 

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:Yes, and Enara is coming, she doesn't believe she's necessary here at this point and would like to be reunited with Jisa. Can I hand Blai over to you and you can sort out having him try his Healing on Randi?: 

 

Unfortunately Melody is too angry to find a way to gracefully accept the ungraceful apology so she's going to ignore it, apparently, even though she's fully aware she's being rude. 

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:Of course.:

Aaaaughhhhhhhhh. This is so agonizing and Rolan isn't helping and it's not fair and this might be the actual worst day of her life. She keeps wanting to burst into tears. And also she needs to stop whining internally like a toddler and handle it. 

:I owe you an apology as well.: Augh augh augh augh augh augh auuuuuuughhhhhh. WORST DAY OF HER LIFE. :Um. It's this way.: 

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:Should I explain what I'd be trying to you or wait until we arrive, Herald...?:

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:Dara.:  MISERY AND WOE. :If I'm remembering right, you have a spell that cures various conditions and it's what you used for yourself and Savil the day after the k'Treva attack. Shavri thought it was worth trying for King Randale, who has - a progressive condition our Healers don't really understand - but then didn't have a chance to bring it up before, um, things happened. It sounds like you do have the spell today? If there's more you can say about it, sure, that sounds helpful.: 

Dara is doing reasonably well for a Valdemaran at not looking like she's having the worst day of her life - and is actually managing not to let it leak in Mindspeech almost at all - but she is very definitely not Chelish. 

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:That's right. It's called Lesser Restoration - the non-Lesser version wants a diamond and I'm not powerful enough to cast it, but if you haven't had the opportunity to try a Lesser before it's a good guess. ...would you like a Guidance.:

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If Dara SUCKED LESS she would probably remember what that was! Rolan should remember but Dara is so so reluctant to Mindspeak him, the last three times she asked him something he took, like, five entire seconds to reply and seemed like he was only half present. 

:What does that one do again?: 

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:It makes you slightly better at whatever you spend it on in the next minute.:

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:Oh. Yes. I would like that.: 

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He can lean down from Seldan to boop her with one.

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Huh. 

Dara is going to immediately try to use it on pulling herself together. She knows how to do this. She's functioned on not enough sleep before. She's kept going after making horrible mistakes before – all right, maybe it was never at the level of GETTING YFANDES KILLED, but it's the same principle, and the fact that the stakes are higher here only makes it more important. She has to focus, and keep everyone else focused, and figure out what they have to do now, today to get the situation under control, and then it can be time to look back and analyze what went wrong, which is the point at which it might conceivably be useful to feel terrible about herself. 

She's not sure how much the spell helped, versus it was just a useful prompt to actually try to stop screaming inside her head and focus on the present priorities. But she does feel, if not better, at least more focused. 

...It's the sort of thing that Rolan would be able to help walk her through if he was - okay - he's really not okay, is he - it's a sudden shift in her head, like moving to look into a house through a different window and suddenly seeing a room that hadn't been in her line of sight at all before. It slightly makes her want to cry again, but - not the time. 

:Thank you.: 

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That was thoughtful of Blai and Seldan is feeling a burst of warmth that has nowhere to go. And wishes he knew what Blai was thinking - and Blai said it was all right - but Seldan isn't entirely sure that he didn't mind, as opposed to not feeling like he had grounds to object. And he wants it to - be right, when (and if) Blai accepts the Companion-bond. It seems like the kind of thing that can matter a lot. 

They keep walking. 

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Dara will reach ahead for Shavri. 

:Are you with Randi? Blai has the spell today to try to Heal him. If now is a good time?: 

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Nothing has felt real since the Death Bell rang. 

Shavri is aware that she ought to be feeling something about the compounding pileup of recent events, but she can't find it in herself. Randi is dying.

They were...so close...to maybe having a solution or at least a way to buy him time, and it would be so stupid, pointless, wasteful if he dies because she thought about asking Blai to prepare a third Lesser Restoration the morning before he was kidnapped and then decided it could wait. Then, briefly, hope again - Vanyel had Blai back, somehow, impossibly - maybe it had all been a mistake, or something like a bad dream, but now Vanyel was meeting to negotiate with Leareth and - 

- and then the Death Bell rang, and it felt like a sick joke and then it didn't feel like anything, she had used up all of her emotions and not bothered saving any for the end. The shock was hard on Randi and it suddenly seemed like he might only have days left. The two days since the Death Bell have mostly washed past over Shavri's head, as though she's a stone at the bottom of a fast-moving river, immovable, waiting. 

Dara reaches out to her and that doesn't feel like anything either, but she answers. 

 

:He's asleep. Now is a fine time.: 

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:We're on our way.: 

To Blai, :- does it matter for healing someone if they're awake?: 

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:No, not at all.:

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Nod. They can go into the Palace wing that holds the royal suite, then, down a few hallways and through a door and - 

 

- it's not incredibly nicer than the guest room, though it has thicker rugs and newer furniture and more wall hangings. It's almost stiflingly hot (which at least won't bother Blai with Endure Elements up). There's a daybed with an articulated joint to raise the head of it, pushed against one wall. 

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Shavri nudges open the door of the bedroom. :In here.: 

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:I don't know anything about what his condition is and do not know if Lesser Restoration is the right tool to address it. And I only have one today, though if it works well and the slots have no other more pressing use I can do four of them tomorrow. I need to touch him to cast it on him.:

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Nod. :I understand. Come in.:

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The King is asleep.

He’s also very obviously dying. His body is emaciated, his eyes sunken, his remaining hair wispy and colorless. He looks like he should be translucent, the skin of a person with most of the substance removed.

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Shavri puts her hand on his shoulder and closes her eyes. :Go on.: Her mindvoice is flat.

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Blai touches the man's hand and casts with the other. "Lesser Restoration."

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Shavri's breath sighs out. :Oh.: 

 

 

It doesn't do that much, in a sense. It doesn't fix him, not like the channeling instantly fixes injuries. It doesn't seem to do anything at all about the creeping darkness, the part that was visible to Healing-Sight first. It doesn't reverse the muscle atrophy, or instantly restore the flesh over his bones. 

But the faded guttering remnants of his life-force are suddenly a lot brighter, sluggish gluey tangles of energy unwinding and flowing normally again. He doesn't look well, but - he isn't dying. She...can't actually remember how long ago it was that his life-force was this bright. Months? A year? 

The hardest thing about the last couple of months is that he can barely tolerate any actual Healing anymore; his body no longer has the resilience for it. Even the best Healers in a meld need to draw a little on the patient's own life-force and he has next to nothing left, and all Shavri can do is block his pain and directly feed him her own energy to keep him limping along a few days longer. Now, he probably could benefit from a Healing-meld again.  

 

She breathes in and out again. :That - did help. Thank you.: Her feelings are still catching up to it, like water pooling up behind a dam. 

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:I can prepare more tomorrow. If we come by contact with Golarion there are stronger spells too.:

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:I think the same thing again would probably help more but I'm not certain - it was so fast, I couldn't see that much in Healing-Sight of how it works. But I would be very grateful if you were willing to prepare more tomorrow. At the very least, this buys him time. A lot of time. And maybe that's long enough to contact your world.: 

She is putting off having any emotions until Blai leaves, she decides. She may not be entirely up to speed on what's been happening, but the man has not been having a good week and will probably not appreciate it if she starts crying and trying to hug him. 

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In that case he'll - see himself out, or is Herald Dara still there -

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She's waiting outside the bedroom. :Did it work?: 

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:It improved the situation though it didn't resolve it completely.:

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Dara apparently cannot actually feel relieved yet, but she manages a smile. :That's - good. Thank you.: 

 

And she'll usher him out back to where Seldan is waiting. 

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Now what.

:If Vanyel is still in transit, no one needs additional prodding to make Yfandes's body available for me to cast a spell on tomorrow, and it would be better to let Herald Joshel wait to discuss interplanetary currency valuation until other matters are settled down, I am not sure what's next on my itinerary. I suppose I could read you the Acts of Iomedae.:

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:I'll prod people if they need prodding about Yfandes' body, it might well get dropped in all the chaos otherwise, but I'm the one with Mindspeech and using it to harass other Companions until their Heralds remember to do things is traditional. Vanyel is: brief pause, :still in the north, and it seems fairly likely Melody will want to talk to him as well as block his mage-gift, we probably have another candlemark. Joshel is: another brief pause, :stuck in a meeting arguing about what Valdemar owes all the mercenary troops they frantically hired and abruptly don't need anymore. So I don't think we have anything pressing. ...Have you eaten supper? I think I can still find my way to the Heralds' dining hall and I won't fit inside but I can Mindspeak you just as well through a wall.:  

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:I haven't had supper, no.: Aboard he climbs.

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It's dark out and a lot of the buildings are different - how long has it been? it's starting to seriously bother him that he can remember snippets of quotes from books he wrote but nothing about the year he wrote them - but Seldan can still manage to navigate to the Heralds' dining hall. The roof is new - well, not new, but replaced at some point probably in the last century - but it's recognizable. 

(NOBODY is allowed to give Blai weird looks like he doesn't have every right to be there. Seldan is making sure all the Companions of Heralds in the dining hall right now - which isn't that many, it's a bit past the usual supper hour and none of the senior people have been taking meal breaks today - are aware of this.) 

There's a long table at one end with food - fairly picked-over at this point - and a lot of smaller tables, mostly empty. 

:If you grab some food and go sit down at an unoccupied table with a book, that's a signal for no one to bother you: Seldan explains helpfully. 

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:Thank you.: Normal paladin horses can't talk unless they get a permanent Telepathic Bond which has got to be too steep for the typical paladin who just got a magic horse, so probably they aren't this convenient. This is really really convenient. He goes and takes some food, he's not picky, and picks an empty table and opens the nicely bound Acts and starts at the beginning.

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(Companions are SO convenient and Seldan is finding this delightful. He will take the opportunity while Blai is getting food to harass, like, six other Companions to pin down who exactly is considering themselves the responsible person for getting a message to the Herald on circuit who found Yfandes' body to tell them to bring it somewhere where someone has a Gate-location.) 

He finds a spot under an awning to stand and wait outside, and settles in to be introduced to the Acts of Iomedae. 

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The first Act is technically Iomedae slaying a manticore but in terms of content that isn't about slaying a manticore there's a fair amount of information on Iomedae's childhood including the episode where she spoke only in Arodenite Scripture for months, her calling as a paladin, and her setting out to find a paladin order that accepted women and finding them all wanting.

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Seldan is very attentive and does not slip in sarcastic comments at all. (This is unlike him, and is not going to work long-term, but the Companion-bond thinks it's important not to upset his Herald and it's hard to tell how it will land when he's still not very familiar with Blai's mind.) 

...It's easier than he expected. His stereotype of religious texts is not like this. 

:- Was it difficult to find an order that accepted women?: he does interject at some point. :That's - I understand that men and women play different roles in society, but it's not the same if Gifts are– I don't know if being a paladin is like having Gifts, maybe you should back up and explain what a paladin is. Enara just said they sounded like Heralds but to a particular god, not a kingdom.: 

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:Paladins are a bit like clerics but more specialized in combat, and they all have to be Lawful Good so only gods within one step of that corner can have them, and if they commit an Evil act they fall at once, so they have less leeway than we do. Gods vary somewhat in what gender balance of clerics they wind up with and it's not unusual for that to vary a lot by culture but for paladins they're mostly men across the board, men are stronger and more warlike as a general rule. There are female paladins and always have been, it's just rarer. In any event she wound up founding the Knights of Ozem since she didn't find the vows and missions of any other orders adequate to her purposes, and her Knights were mixed sex.:

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:I see.: So another difference from Heralds is that you definitely cannot go found your own separate Collegium if you have a dispute with the Heralds' Oath (or he would have been tempted to do it, half because he's pretty sure he did have a long list of complaints and half out of general contrariness.) :Go on.: 

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Over the course of her search Iomedae decides she also needs to figure out if Aroden is on the up-and-up - whether He's the kind of thing that can make and will keep agreements with mortals, i.e. whether His Law is all it's cracked up to be. This is generally regarded as pretty uppity of her but Aroden seems if anything kind of thrilled about it and she gets confirmation that He will never use her against her own purposes.

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Wow. He likes this woman. ...Goddess-to-be. He'll let some of that approval leak across the Mindspeech link. 

:Tell me about Aroden?: 

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:...He's dead. About a century ago. Most of what I know about Him is in here.:

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Oh. 

(...Well, it does seem like pertinent information right now that gods can die, even if it seems so far like this god was - decent, and didn't deserve it.) 

He keeps listening. 

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Vanyel does not envy the Heralds currently trying to take charge of Waymeet. 

The town is enormously overcrowded, well above what its infrastructure can support; someone must have made the decision that matters were moving too fast and they couldn't afford to dig latrines and erect shelter for thousands of troops before they arrived and would have to handle it after the fact, and would rush to do it with magic once they had the people for it. Related to all the Gates and all the magic being flung around, the weather is abysmal. The narrow streets are packed with soldiers - not just Valdemaran but Karsite, Ifteli, Rethwellani, mercenary, all mixed together, companies having been split up by who could make it to a Gate on time - everyone keyed up for action, and abruptly faced with no impending battles after all and nowhere for all that nervous energy to go

Some soldiers - not Valdemaran - have gotten into the mayor's wine cellar. It's unclear if they had permission for this. The townspeople are mostly hiding inside, which is understandable of them given the mood out in the streets; most of the houses seem to be hosting some soldiers as well, but there's at least some filtering for the ones who would rather prefer to bunker down inside rather than be drunk and raucous outside. Vanyel has passed at least three fights. 

He feels blind and deaf without his mage-sight. (Melody thought she could figure out how to selectively block his ability to use magic without blocking his ability to perceive it, but it would take longer, and he doesn't think that's a good trade right now.) He Fetched a broken wine-bottle away from a drunk man who looked like he might be intending to wield it as a weapon and now his head hurts. 

Which is almost soothing, in a way. It's an easier pain to bear than the emptiness behind everything. 

Stef is there. Not everything in the world is broken. 

 

 

And right now, for just a moment, one less thing is broken, because he's in his sister's arms, being squeezed so tightly he can barely breathe. 

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"Van - Van - they said you were dead–" 

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"I know - I'm sorry - if we'd known sooner I'd have sent word–" 

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"Van, you're the last person who needs to be sorry." Squeeze. "I - the Star-Eyed might not be sorry yet but She will be -" 

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A snort of laughter that half turns into a sob. "...I missed you." Was that what he meant to say? Does it matter? 

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"I head - I'm so sorry about Yfandes - you probably don't want to talk about it but - I - someone's got to pay -" 

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"Liss, please, don't - do anything stupid -" 

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"Me, stupid? Would I do that? You slander me." 

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He clings to her for a moment longer. "I need to go." 

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"So do I. Lot of heads need banging together tonight - don't know what they were thinking, rushing the deployment like this, the place is a tinderbox tonight -" Metaphorically and literally. She wouldn't be surprised if buildings are on fire before morning. 

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Slowly, reluctantly, Vanyel disentangles himself. "Take care of yourself, Lissa. ...Be careful." 

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And she knows he doesn't just mean making sure to dodge broken winebottles. Bigger, scarier things are afoot here. Vanyel warned her that they can't necessarily trust anyone who works for Vkandis and there are way too many Karsite and Ifteli soldiers here for her comfort. Not mages, at least - Karse has almost none to spare and Iftel's are mostly handling Gates from the Iftel end - and at least the bloody gryphons aren't in Waymeet. Though maybe it would better if she could keep an eye on them. 

"I will." 

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Vanyel ducks his head, takes Stef's hand, and forges back out into the night to head for the Gate staging-area. 

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WINTER IS TERRIBLE AND STEF WANTS AN ENDURE ELEMENTS AGAIN this is objectively not important but it's taking up a really disproportionate amount of Stef's attention. 

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He can't even feel the Gate (cast by a tense-looking White Winds mage who gives him a hard-to-read look.) You would think this would be an improvement, but it's actually just unsettling. 

 

There are a lot of people lined up for the Gate on both sides, but the two of them get priority, apparently. They step through into Haven. 

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Haven is four hundred miles further south so it's just unfair that it doesn't feel any warmer. Why does the stupid Gate have to be outside

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Vanyel is quietly repeating the list of next priorities to himself. And missing Yfandes in a more pragmatic way. He's used to being able to rely on her to track his to-do list. 

 

He needs to make sure Feniss is all right. And talk to Blai - which he's inclined to do first, it sounds less unpleasant and Leareth assured him that Feniss knew what she was signing up for. But one other thing has to come first, regardless of how painful it's going to be. 

Reach out. It's - a lot harder, without Yfandes there to stop it stop it stop it he needs to focus

 

There she is. :Savil?: He had been half-expecting her to meet him at the Gate-site, but it's...not actually surprising to find her in the Web-focus room instead. 

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:Van. ...Welcome back.: 

There's so much unsaid behind those words. So much that does need to be said, eventually, but - later is all right. Van is alive. And he was right to go north, and the magnitude of what Valdemar owes him - and the apology the Heralds owe him - is beyond what words can convey anyway. 

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:Where's Brightstar?: Does he know that Vanyel is alive. 

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:With the White Winds people still in Haven, I think? - tried to reach him, when we got the message, but he must've been in a Work Room or something.: 

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:I need to speak with him as soon as possible.:

He may belong to the Star-Eyed, but he's also Vanyel's son. And Vanyel is oddly certain that his apparent death was critical to setting up the stage - that Brightstar wouldn't have taken things so far, if he had any idea he was working against his father's plans or putting him at risk. 

:Who's our point of contact with White Winds now?: It would have been Jisa, before, but she was very insistent on staying up north with Leareth, even if there's something absurd and almost comical about the concept of Leareth needing the protection of a not quite fifteen-year-old girl. 

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:Haven't been keeping track, that's Keiran's department.: 

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:Thank you.: 

A pause.

:...I love you.: Words that he thought he might never again have a chance to say to her. :Any other news?: 

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:Blai's Healing worked on Randi. Not - well - but enough that Shavri thinks it buys him time. And there's stronger magic, in his world, if Leareth...: 

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:All he needs is time.:

Time that Vanyel isn't, actually, convinced they have yet. Not until he knows for sure that they've defused the trap that the Star-Eyed shaped Brightstar into. ...Damn it, he thought all of this through in the Shadow-Lover's realm and if he had Yfandes he would remember it better– stop it. Focus. 

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:You should talk to your parents. Your father took it hard.: 

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Wow, that sounds almost more painful than talking to Brightstar, and less strategically critical. :I'll...make sure to do that.: 

Pause. He is now definitely having this conversation to stall and put off dealing with the more agonizing things, but - he can't make himself. Not yet. Not now. His mind is an unsteady foundation built on sand and void and if he pushes too hard he doesn't know what will happen. 

:...How's Arven?: Does she know that he's alive. ....Does she know that he was dead. Probably. Karis is the type of parent who - it's not right to say "doesn't believe in protecting children", but - who doesn't believe that keeping secrets is actually a way to protect them. 

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:Would love a hug from you, I'm sure. But - once things are a little more settled. We thought about evacuating her and Karis back to Sunhame, but they're still here.: 

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That's...it feels like it means something, it feels like there's a thread of thought there from the Shadow-Lover's realm, but he can't chase it down. 

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Savil can tell when Vanyel is stalling and she can also tell when he desperately needs her to be talking to him a little bit longer. 

:Your mother's having her chance to shine. Apparently Blai can cast a spell to help us all catch up on sleep but only if he has an absurdly expensive pillow, and guess who had one of those. ...Oh! Did you hear about Blai's Companion?: 

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:Melody filled me in.: 

There's an ugly feeling in the back of Vanyel's mind, that he's embarrassed to look at. Yfandes would say something reassuring about how he's only human, and he would feel better, but the entire goddamned problem is that Yfandes isn't here– STOP IT STOP IT STOP IT he needs to focus why did he say no to Melody when she asked if he wanted her to put in some blocks...

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Oof, predictable in hindsight that Vanyel has complicated feelings about that. Apologizing won't help, because acknowledging it won't help.

...A distraction might, though, and she sure has one. 

:Did Melody mention his Companion's name?: 

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:Er, no, why?: How can that possibly be important. 

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:It's Seldan. Now, what does that remind you of...?: 

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:...Are you serious?: 

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See? Distraction!

:Kellan was fairly sure. ...Hasn't mentioned it to him yet because, and I quote, 'the last thing he needs is something else to be smug about.': 

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:Huh, what's he smug about?: 

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:To hear Kellan tell it, the question is 'what isn't he smug about.' Having the best Chosen, his Chosen having been right when everyone else in Haven was wrong, being a special Groveborn dispensed as a direct divine intervention and how that implies he was the best possible person for it...: 

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:I mean, that's not wrong! If you had to pick one former Herald who can keep up with Leareth...: 

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:Kellan says 'don't you dare say that to him, he'll be insufferable.' The other Companions all want to see how long they can stretch it out before he realizes we're still quoting his books six hundred years later.: 

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:I always wondered if he and Leareth knew each other.:

Aaaaand he should really drag himself away from this conversation now. 

:Talk more later. Er, if Brightstar does happen to Mindspeak you, tell him where I am right away, all right?: 

 

 

And he'll pass on a message to Keiran, asking her to please have someone track down Brightstar immediately. Then reach out to Katha (it feels wrong, doing all this contacting people directly rather than Yfandes routing via their Companions in a much less obtrusive way, he supposes he could try for their Companions instead but it would hurt too much) and confirm that Feniss is aware of recent events and is not still being held incommunicado or something. 

It takes another thirty seconds to confirm that Blai is in the dining hall, and then he takes Stef's hand and heads that way. On foot. Because Yfandes isn't here. 

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Stef normally hates it when Vanyel forgets to even slightly include him in Mindspeech conversations, but he's trying to cut his lifebonded a lot of slack, right now. He can feel what it feels like, across the lifebond, and it's honestly very impressive that Van is capable of walking and talking right now. 

Blai probably didn't prepare extra Endure Elements today because why would he, but Stef is still daydreaming about it hopefully. 

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There's a Companion loitering under an awning just outside the dining hall. 

 

:You must be Vanyel: His mindvoice has some of the echoing-blazing quality of the Groveborn, but without the sense that this mind is more alien than a human spirit could ever be, because that isn't true. :Glad you made it back. And since I bet no one remembered to tell you – Blai's world has resurrection magic.: His mindvoice is - very pleased with himself. :I'm arranging for Yfandes' body to be brought here. Once your northern archmage has a chance to sort out contact...: 

 

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Vanyel is not going to burst into tears. He's not. In front of reincarnated Seldasen? It would be mortifying. He would never stop being embarrassed about it. 

:Thank you. Er, has Blai...?: 

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:He hasn't agreed to the bond yet. I think he's leaning toward it, but Enara thought he ought to know the downsides.: 

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Nod. :Melody suggested I bounce to him what it feels like, and let him decide for himself if it would present an operational constraint.: Which would have been a lot more confusing if he hadn't also picked up on Blai's particular usage of that phrase in his internal vernacular. 

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:Make sure you mention the upsides, too. To be balanced about it. He ought to know how convenient we are.: 

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:I'll, er, make sure to do that.: Aaaaaargh. 

Also he's managed to finish processing the rest of what Seldasen Seldan said earlier, but it's way too late to object that Leareth isn't his archmage, bringing it up would just be really awkward at this point. 

He'll slip into the dining hall and look for Blai. 

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Blai has his book and his empty plate and is looking at the book.

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Vanyel will go over, stand awkwardly for a moment, and clear his throat. 

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:- hello! I didn't realize you were in Haven yet.:

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:I just got here.: Give or take a couple of minutes to take care of necessities and five minutes of unnecessary gossip. 

He takes a deep breath; it's not exactly necessary when he's using Mindspeech but it's still grounding. :I - thank you. For everything you've done in Haven. It must have been really frustrating, but - I do think it made a difference, I think us showing up in Waymeet would have gone worse if we hadn't known what was happening here. Valdemar owes you a lot, and - I don't know if anyone else has actually said so or if they're too embarrassed.: 

He glances around, finds a chair, and sits down heavily. 

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Stef sits as well and nods to Blai. 

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:I'm glad I was able to help. Has anyone told you that if I can get the right scroll on Golarion - or hire a higher-circle cleric - there are spells that resurrect the dead -:

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:Your Com– er, I know he's not your Companion yet, but Seldan mentioned.: Stiffly. :Speaking of that, er. Melody thought I should...show you what it feels like to - what happened to - do you actually want me to do that?: His Mindspeech is fragmented; he keeps not being able to make himself finish the sentence. 

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:It makes a difference to whether I just need to save up to carry a scroll of Breath of Life or do something more elaborate than that, if nothing else.:

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Nod. 

Vanyel isn't a mage right now, but he's still a Projective Empath, and if anything it's been taking an ongoing effort of will to not project the emptiness everywhere. 

(Pause to nudge aside the moment of bitter envy, almost anger, of course Blai's world has some instant magic solution. But Blai doesn't deserve pettiness from Vanyel and Vanyel is not going to let himself project stupid feelings that aren't his problem at him.) 

This is what it feels like when your Companion dies. 

 

There's the aspect that feels like it should really be a fatal injury, except purely mental – half of his mind bleeding out forever into the nothing, and knowing he won't actually die of it, even though if he did it would stop. There's the way that his thoughts keep running into metaphorically walls or stumbling off cliffs or into pits, places where a mental action would complete effortlessly if Yfandes were there and...can't, anymore. 

There's also the mundane grief, no different from how it would hurt if, say, Savil died. Yfandes wasn't just glued to his soul; she was his closest friend, across twenty years. But that part is in the background; Vanyel knows how to lose people and gently set the pain of it aside for more pressing matters. The part where there's a gaping chasm in his mind is a lot harder to ignore.

 

 

It's mostly not getting in the way of taking actions, though it may or may not be relevant there that Vanyel has so many years of practice. 

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Wow, that's pretty bad.

 

Blai is a third circle Worldwound veteran. He has, on more than one occasion, needed to heal himself mid-combat, gutted by a glabrezu claw or eaten away by vescavors. It's - weird, to face the prospect of somebody dying as urgent in the same way, but - he does think he could read a Breath of Life scroll, if he had to.

:Thank you for the demonstration.:

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Vanyel puts his shields back and tucks his feelings back away where they belong. (He had to be very careful not to project all of that at everyone in the hall.) 

:...I should mention the good parts, too, because - it's worth it. It was worth it even when I - thought - I couldn't ever get her back. It's...:

How in the world to convey this to Blai, who Vanyel has noticed does not seem to go around enjoying feelings of intimacy with other people. 

:...it's like that spell you use a lot. The one that makes you a little better at whatever it is you're trying to do right then. It's - your Companion is always there, and - when you forgot to do something and you know you forgot it but not what it was, they remember it for you - when you're trying to figure out how to say something so it's not rude, they have a suggestion right there - they remember that word on the tip of your tongue for you - they keep track of your schedule...: Shrug. :And of course they give you advise on hard decisions, but - that's not even the part I mostly miss, you can get advice from friends, but your friends can't, just, make every moment of every day a little bit easier like that.: 

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Blai doesn't have any friends though.

:I'm concerned about what will happen when I reach the afterlife. I think I could cast from a scroll or probably even make travel arrangements to a church of Abadar to call in an insurance policy if necessary, but there's no such obvious action to take if I appear in Axis thus - separated.:

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Vanyel is not reading Blai's mind and so cannot pick up on that thought and find it incredibly sad. 

:...I don't know. Since we don't have afterlives, it's - usually Companions die when their Herald does, though not the Groveborn - the kind of Companion that Rolan is, who can go on and Choose a different Herald next - and not instantly unless it was because they were both killed at once in the same fight or something. I suppose it would be simpler if everyone went to the same afterlife but there are a lot of them and I don't know what alignment Seldan is. I - could you leave Seldan with instructions on getting you back, if you die? I don't know how scrolls work, probably he couldn't cast a spell that way, but if he just has to go to a church and ask them for help...: 

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:That won't work once I've died of old age. In addition to being very expensive before that. I'm actually not even sure how I'll afford the Breath of Life scroll and I'm just assuming that the Valdemaran government can probably afford the one you need which costs five times the amount.:

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:I'm...guessing...that if you died of old age and were in an afterlife, you just wouldn't be bonded anymore? Rather than having a broken Companion-bond, I - when people here die and then are reincarnated, they don't come back with a broken bond even if they were previously bonded to someone, they just have the - underlying compatibility for it.:

Please please please don't ask him how he knows this it's so awkward. 

:I think the kind of Groveborn Companion that Rolan is just doesn't die of old age. Other Companions do age but their lifespan seems to be longer than a human's, I've never heard of someone's Companion dying of old age before they did. So probably you should just...ask Seldan? I've never heard of a Companion objecting to the fact that their Herald will eventually die of old age but - if you're still around, just stuck in an afterlife, he might want to know how to track you down there?: 

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:Also expensive but not as much as any of the spells that call for diamonds, at least.: He pockets his book, stands, and looks for where to put his plate.

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:In that bucket on the table over there.: Seldan has been hanging back from the conversation itself, but can still track what Blai is doing enough to notice when he's looking for something.

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Vanyel stands up as well.  

:Good luck: he says, which doesn't quite feel like the right thing to say but he can't think of what would be and Yfandes is NOT there to help him out.

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:Thank you.:

He puts his plate where Seldan tells him to and comes out of the dining hall.

:I think that if I save up for a scroll of Breath of Life I'll be able to cast it if you go down,: he tells Seldan. :However in the longer term I am unsure what will happen when I make my way to the afterlife. I'm probably bound for Axis and it is possible to just travel there but it would be - highly irregular and perhaps supernaturally illegal - to take up residence while not yourself dead and Judged for the destination.:

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Who's going to stop him, the afterlife Guard ...they might, actually, he should not be assuming he understands what any of those foreign concepts mean or what the stakes are here, and also sarcasm will not help. 

:I won't say I understand, I probably don't yet, other world and everything. But - it's not relevant to my decision. It's not as though it's news to me that humans die eventually, and it's not as though it's worse than that if you're just - elsewhere.: 

That being said, the afterlife Guard would absolutely have to arrest him if they wanted to drag him away from his Chosen. Or, well, they could try. He can't forbid them from trying. They, however, also can't stop him from stomping on their faces about it. 

(He keeps this part to himself. It would be a weird level of intensity to bring into the conversation given that the bond isn't two-way yet and Blai might still say no to it.) 

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:If nothing else the fact that Axis goes out of its way to be possible to visit should make it possible to - reestablish the connection if that turns out to be necessary for either of us to function. Given... money. I don't have a stable occupation at the moment.:

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:Doesn't the archmage need your help to contact your world, and isn't he very motivated to do that? He should pay you for the service, if it's worth that much to him. And then you can get paid by people from your world for access to this one.: 

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:I'm not sure he needs my help beyond knowing I exist? And he's doing all the work. It's probably worth asking an Abadaran at some point just in case, but I wouldn't count on it, there's not really much one hopes to incentivize in "be transported to another planet involuntarily and happen to find an archmage there".:

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:I'm not myself an archmage and have no idea what his research strategy is, maybe all he needs is to know you exist, but it really seems like it ought to save him a lot of effort and false starts if you help answer questions.:

Mental equivalent of a shrug. :I'm sure we can think of something. If it were elsewhere in Velgarth, I would sell Mindspeech relaying, my range seems to be about three hundred miles in any direction – only the strongest human Mindspeakers can match it, and most places have a lot fewer strong Mindspeakers than Valdemar. I'm not sure if your world has communication at a distance solved already, though.: 

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:...well, there's a spell for it, but only at fourth circle and very limited bandwidth with a long casting time, you could probably fetch a lot that way actually. I'm not sure if that crosses the Inner Sea or not... it would probably be enough to cover the entire Worldwound, but I just left the Worldwound...

...anyway. This seems like - details - not really material to -

- are you quite certain you don't need to know more things about me than you currently do -:

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:I'm quite certain. I don't mind if you want to wait longer or tell me more things, but I've never heard of a Companion having a Call that went away because of something they learned about the person they were Called to, that isn't how it works.: 

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:I mean, the circumstances are fairly - exceptional -:

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:There have been Heralds who grew up as thieves in street gangs. At least one Herald who murdered their parents before they were Chosen.:

How does he remember THAT and not what YEAR it was when he was last as Herald. Seriously. Did he quote it in treatise– ...how does he remember some of the treatises he wrote and nothing, absolutely nothing at all, about who his own parents were. 

:I don't know if you think it's more exceptional than that and I am still fairly sure it wouldn't change anything. If you used to regularly eat babies or something, well, I'm not going to let you do it again, but it doesn't change anything for me.:

:I don't mind if you tell me anyway, if it - helps for you.: 

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:I'm not sure if I'd say it helps, it just seems - an omission - I did not specifically eat babies and now I work for Iomedae.:

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:Well, that addresses that, then, so far I have nothing but approval for Iomedae. I think the general advice is that conversations with your Companion about things in your past you have regrets about are much easier once the bond is established. I'm not going to regret picking you because of anything you did before I was around, that's really not how Companions work.:

(He's still trying to avoid saying 'Choose' or 'Chosen' because this bothers Blai, and is definitely looking forward to understanding why.) 

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:Okay.:

He's not really sure how to conceptualize this as anything other than failing his Will save, but he knows how to fail a Will save -

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Seldan looks at him, and - doesn't think "I Choose you" because for some reason that word is upsetting, but the mental motion doesn't need words - 

 

- it's like falling into blue, and for a moment a glimpse of interwoven threads that might be the structure of Foresight itself as perceived directly by Seldan...

 

Seldan loves him, though right now it's mostly still in an abstract way that Seldan himself is faintly puzzled by and poking at curiously, exploring what the Companion-bond is like from this end — what a fascinating implementation, and what an odd world they live in, where the cheapest friendly intervention a god could provide was to reincarnate a dead man as a magic Mindspeaking horse and glue his soul to someone important, what does that imply about the gods and how They work... 

 

Seldan has absolutely no doubt that Blai is important. He may not know what Blai has been thinking, or the intricate details of what motivates him (though he's eager to know, for Blai to make sense to him, for the intriguing glimpses he's caught to fit together) but he wasn't shy about getting the run-down from some of the other Companions about what Blai has been doing since he arrived in Velgarth a few days ago.

Which is behaving exactly like a Herald. He landed in a strange world and immediately fought a monster and saved a little girl's life. He was kidnapped by an archmage everyone had been telling him was evil, and still tried everything he could to head off a war. It almost doesn't matter what he was thinking - it matters to Seldan, of course, because Seldan loves to know the complex machinery behind anyone's decisions and the bond has taken that and run with it - but, ultimately, the thing it most makes sense to judge someone on is their actions. 

(Flickers of a remembered debate over whether it changes the moral valence of someone's heroic act if they did it for selfish reasons, though he hasn't the faintest idea who he once debated that with and one assumes they died centuries ago.) 

Blai was heroic but, more to the point, he was careful, and Seldan respects that a lot more. There's an incredibly difficult balancing act, when acting under uncertainty, of living in the various possible worlds at once, rather than collapsing confusion into one interpretation, and his sense from Enara that Blai did this rather better than most of the Heralds in Haven. There's an even more difficult balancing act of - he thinks of it as living in all the possible worlds, and considering not just how your decisions affect the concrete physical details in front of you, but how the rules behind your decisions affect what the possible worlds are, and he sees flickers of that in Blai, too. 

Maybe most importantly, Blai is not an overawed teenager waiting for their Companion to mold them into a virtuous adult. That's not a bad way for someone to be and it makes sense that it's how most Heralds start out, but - Seldan is not sure he would be good at it. Which is presumably related to why he's been pointed here instead. Blai was already doing all of that, without anyone guiding him (except maybe the concept of his goddess but it's not like she was there giving orders). Seldan wants to know everything about Blai's life and Blai's world and Blai's goddess, and then - well, they're kind of still in the middle of a crisis here, aren't they, and he wants to help. 

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It would not be quite accurate to say that Blai Artigas has never loved anyone before in his entire life.  He was a baby once.  His mother and his sisters kept him alive, and the actions you have to take to achieve that are almost all the exact same ones you need to take to make the baby also love you.  It's not that you can't do one without the other but it's kind of niche and they weren't aiming at it.

When Blai was six he went to school and it became abundantly clear in that environment that, at this advanced age, it was not the done thing to cry about missing your mommy or to hug your youngest sister (the one who still tolerates you despite your inveterate inability to let the slightest misbehavior go unreported).  Chelish people aren't born Chelish.  They have to be taught.  Blai learned.  So, since then, nada.

And he doesn't have very clear memories of being six, now that he is instead thirty-eight.

Like most things that go on in Blai's head, "love" immediately attempts to render into "anxiety".  He doesn't have the Breath of Life scroll yet.  Even if he did, clearly Someone was holding on to Seldan's soul before and they might just not give it back!  Also he didn't wind up confessing in advance about having been an Asmodean and that's not going to let him get out of mentioning it at all, it's just going to make it even more agonizing to sit with the judgment, he's already told two people on this planet and he could have just told a third, but he didn't, and now Seldan can't even back out, can he!  And furthermore what if it turns out being off of this planet is bad for Companions.  It's not like anyone checked first.  Conversely what if Leareth can't get anywhere with transit to Golarion and gives up on it and goes back to what he was doing, and Blai can never get the scroll, and he and Seldan wind up dodging hostile gods indefinitely, which won't last very long because of how the operative word is "god".  Or what if they do go to Golarion and then it turns out that actually as an obscure matter of Iomedaean catechism one is not allowed to have a magic horse from a third party.  What if it's strictly a one source horse situation and he's not allowed to have Seldan and also be a member of the Church in good standing.  What if Iomedae Herself doesn't like it!  What if he wakes up in the morning with no spells, and he's no good to anyone for anything ever again, and Seldan just has to drag him around being useless forever!  This would be a very weird thing for Iomedae to have a problem with because Seldan is very good, but it would also be weird if She hated chess and that hasn't stopped Blai from worrying about it thirty times a day for the last few months!  What if Seldan just gets fed up with all the fucking worrying??

Really, the only thing rescuing this situation from being anything other than just an oddly appealing disaster is this, that most gladdening guidestar of a fact: at least, at least Blai's feelings don't matter at all.

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Seldan is entirely unperturbed by any of this. Which is a slight relief, it could have been the case that the thing where the bond-mechanism makes him go all mother-hen about Blai being cold would also make him experience Blai's emotions as contagious, which would be deeply out of character for him but, you know, weird soulbond thing.

Fortunately it doesn't do that! He is fond and maybe faintly amused.

After a moment, he concentrates and then sends Blai a little slapstick-theatre-troup-style mental image of the two of them dodging lightning bolts and trees on fire while - what does Leareth look like? - he grabs that memory from Blai's mind and adds a little Leareth figure off to the side, sighing dramatically at a pile of crumpled discarded research notes before setting them on fire in disgust. 

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Sure yes it's silly if you imagine it like it's felt puppets accompanied by a bouzouki player but it would not actually be okay!

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There are indeed always a huge number of things that might happen and wouldn't be okay (not to mention things happening that aren't okay), all the time, everywhere. Plenty of people go to absurd lengths to not think about the catastrophes that could befall them. Some people worry a lot. Seldan himself was accused by several instructors of being constitutionally incapable of ever taking anything seriously (...huh, he remembers that but not his Companion's name when he was a Herald...) Being constitutionally incapable of ever taking anything seriously didn't get in the way of making serious decisions, and going off Blai's decision record, neither does worrying.

 Thus, one can prove that worrying is (har har har) nothing to worry about

In Seldan's defense, the world is, in fact, incredibly silly. See the part where Seldasen is currently a Mindspeaking horse

 

:If you'd rather not have to tell me the thing, I can just look.: Companions: convenient. So far he's overall delighted with this being-a-Companion thing, even if he's gradually adding more complaints and questions to his mental list in case he ever somehow gets a chance to hand it to the god Vanyel went and yelled at. 

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:You can do that? Okay.: That's way more intense than a Telepathic Bond but it was already kind of as intense as Blai knew how to understand and then some so that observation doesn't really go anywhere.

"Vicar, I'm not sure another weekend in the basement will actually help," says Blai, "I think I need more time with the commentaries, I - I don't feel ready -" It's an excuse. It's not that it's untrue, but if there were something untrue he could say, to not go down in the basement again - last time was their fifth, and then Imma got chosen, and now he has no allies down there at all. Last time he was down there Claudia was so disoriented she tried to drink a candle. She burned her mouth and had wax all over her lips and she was still so exhausted that she almost tried to do it again before her hands shook too badly and she dropped it and gave up. Blai hasn't attempted to drink a candle, so far, but by the third time he was acquainted enough with dehydration that he tried to accept Marti's offer to let somebody drink his piss and then Marti didn't even let him.

Vicar Rey rolls her eyes. "You may be glad to learn that your feelings do not matter at all," she says, and she pushes him down the stairs.

He falls about halfway before he catches himself, ribs throbbing, knee smarting, a spot on his upper arm promising to turn into a violent bruise, and - it doesn't matter?

Really?

It doesn't matter and he's allowed to be glad of it?

Now that she's said that it's almost obvious in retrospect. Asmodeus is in charge, and if you'd asked Blai, on one of the theology quizzes or something, "does Asmodeus care about Blai Artigas's feelings, literally at all", the answer would have come with no searching, but -

He sits in the basement, with the remainder of his dwindling cohort. He'll either get chosen, or he won't. If he gets chosen then in just, what will it be now, sixteen hours, he'll be able to create water, and if he doesn't then he'll stay in here till Moonday (he can't remember any of the basement Moondays, it's so hard to keep track of time, there's just the march of heartbeat after sluggish gluey heartbeat once you've been in there long enough, but, notionally, Moonday) and he will have all kinds of stupid freewilled pathetic human feelings about this and none of that matters. He can just write it entirely out of the calculus. It'll still happen because he's an idiot insect only speculatively usable for anything other than paving material but he could just concentrate on everything else. Like his prayers. He is commanded to pray. There's nothing else to do in the basement besides pray and politick, and with Imma gone he is disadvantaged at politicking. The thing to do is pray. The point of him being here at all is to carve him into a shape Asmodeus can take up as a tool.

O King of Hell, Prince of Devils, I wait to be Yours; I will serve, I will serve, I will serve -

It must go on for about sixteen hours. The dehydration headache has him in earnest by then. His eyes are swimming with exhaustion. He hasn't budged from his agonizing kneeling position. Asmodeus has not called him to a task that requires his joints unstiff, or his mind clear, or his throat capable of speech, and every other reason to move doesn't matter.

Dawn strikes him and he goes on praying for another full hour, the whole complement of spells he's meant to ask for the first time, rather than break early and interrupt his preparations with a drink of water. That's for after he has served his purposes. The full hour. Then the water. Then making his way up the stairs, to be let out into the world, and take shape more fully as his lord's possession, a fullfledged Chosen of Asmodeus.
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That sure is impressively horrible. Creatively horrible. Like someone put a lot of effort into coming up with the most horrible thought experiment they could. And was better at it than Seldan, because he would not have come up with that! 

Those are his first thoughts, but he isn't exactly feeling horror. It doesn't seem like it would help, and Seldan may not have been capable of inventing that but he was, in his time, an acknowledged champion of horrible thought experiments. He can look through the memory with detachment. Mostly. Except for a brief moment of idly picturing kicking in Vicar Rey's head, the thought tagged with an acknowledgement that just because someone did awful things does not make it fine to do whatever you want to them and he wouldn't actually go enact a revenge fantasy about it, but also he absolutely won the argument once about whether having revenge fantasies you're never going to act on is fine actually.

It's quite clearly demarcated in his thoughts that the horror isn't toward Blai. He wants to understand Blai, and this is a step toward that. There's some admirable tenacity and self-control to show there.

He can guess it gets worse than this, in terms of things Blai has actually done that were horrifying (which "get kicked down the stairs and locked in a basement to coerce him into praying to an evil god" isn't); all he's sure of is that it didn't involve eating babies. But, well, if this was just a horrifying thought experiment, rather than Blai's real actual life, it would be something about exploring the question of when a person's actions in extreme circumstances start to come apart from their character, in the sense of what you could predict about their actions in normal circumstances, and how this relates to moral culpability. One can take a position at either end on that question, and Seldan has always thought of himself as somewhere in the middle. It's information about what sort of person Blai is, and he's glad to have that information; he wants to understand Blai. It's already pretty clear that it's not predictive of Blai's character, in the sense of how he behaves when offered magic by a god who isn't evil (who sounds pretty excellent, really) and then dropped in a new world and given an opening to save a kid and prevent a war. 

He is also no longer confused about why Blai doesn't really like being referred to as Seldan's Chosen! That makes sense! 

 

Oh. Also. If anyone else ever again tries to do that to Blai, he will kick in their head. He feels very strongly about that. NO ONE is allowed to try to mess with Blai anymore. 

 

(Thoughts he's not having where Blai can see them: any expression of sympathy on how unpleasant and awful that sounds, he doesn't think that will help. Getting competitive on horrible-thought-experiment-generation and trying to see if he can think of an even worse version. Ranking all the Heralds he's met so far by how likely it is they could end up being chosen by Asmodeus if plopped into the horrible thought experiment.) 

 

 

trying to drink a candle is a little funny though

like, in an awful tragic way, but still

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Wait why are we fantasizing about kicking Vicar Rey in the head. All things considered Blai remembers her pretty fondly. The other vicar not so much but Rey was mostly possible to work with and - helpful, if, as Blai did at the time, you consider her goals to be the same ones you mean to work toward. He has no reason to expect to ever see no-longer-a-vicar Jana Rey ever again but if she's somewhere in Reclaimed Cheliax instead of in Hell he'd probably be inclined to just say hello and not make a huge fuss about the time she broke every joint in his body, it's not like he didn't know that would happen if he fell asleep in class.

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Fiiiiiiiiine it's a good thing when people outperform their environment even if it's only slightly and the bar is incredibly low and Seldan couldn't pick it out in this one specific memory. "Possible to work with" is better than not that. Seldan is probably still going to hate her, the Companion-bond has VERY STRONG FEELINGS on how unacceptable it is to break every joint in Blai's body for falling asleep in class, but the Companion-bond is not objectively reasonable about all things and he can respect Blai's relatively positive memories of her, and if they somehow do ever run into the woman he can be polite. 

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Well, she might easily be impolite first, since Blai is now going around with the symbol of Iomedae hanging from his neck, but, like, Blai wouldn't choose to start shit with Jana Rey, or with Imma, or with his high school teacher who recommended him for seminary, or... most people really. Actually if you phrase it that way he wouldn't even choose to start shit with Vicar Vilar who took advantage of the broken joints situation to do some rape even though Blai really did not like that at all.

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Not choosing to start shit with people is often wise! Even if they were gratuitously unpleasant to you when they had the opportunity! It doesn't sound like picking a fight with Vicar Vilar now would accomplish anything, even if you include "being satisfying for Blai personally" in "anything" (which Seldan thinks is generally not a good policy to follow). And Seldan is still missing swaths of context here (though he'll pick it up ambiently as things come up in Blai's thoughts, they don't have to do the entire explanation at once now) but he has a sense this is not one of those situations where Vicar Vilar being aware that Blai would remember his bad behavior while in a position of power and retaliate if he ever had the chance with him if he had the opportunity would have had...any...meaningful deterrent effect.  

 

(Seldan is not nearly as calm about this as he's trying to convey, but he has observed some things about Blai and this time he's keeping his colorful and creative visualization of exactly how he could retaliate for that behind his shields where Blai doesn't have to interact with it.) 

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If Blai had been some sort of clerical prodigy and looked likely to be Aspexia Rugatonn's right hand man inside ten years (or something) then Vicar Vilar, or possibly, like, a smarter version of Vicar Vilar, might well have backed off on that basis. It was not remotely unheard of within Asmodean church politics to get a promotion and then spend one's entire ecclesiastical capital on fucking over everyone who ever slighted you. But Blai was not any sort of clerical prodigy - those get picked before they go into the basement even once, for one thing - and did not really radiate spite. He learned how to be scary, ish, at the Wound, but he was very much below average at it for an Asmodean priest.

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Yeah. Seldan is pretty sure he prefers Blai the way he is, as someone who has remarkably little spite given that he grew up in the real-life version of a horrifying philosophical thought experiment on what kind of environment maximizes the number of people who will do bad things regardless of their underlying character. Seldan has a suspicion that Blai outperformed his environment by rather more than Vicar Rey. 

(Which can't have made it easier for him at the time, but - he survived it, and "oh gods you are so traumatized" is also not a helpful thought to have where Blai can see it.) 

Being scary is a useful skill in many circumstances even in Valdemar, but probably "below average at it for an Asmodean priest" is already overkill for the right amount of scary literally anywhere else. 

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Well he was compensating for the fact that his preferred disciplinary method was making people play chess with him and that's inherently unscary.

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....Okay this Seldan has got to see. He'll go looking in Blai's memories again for exactly how one plays chess with people in a terrifying punishment-y way. 

 

(He's also steering them toward the Companions' stables; Blai has the Endure Elements spell and isn't bothered by the cold, but it's still dark and snowy out and if it's like he remembers, the stables are actually very cozy.) 

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Mostly you be much better and faster at chess than them, insult them the whole time, theatrically disintegrate the Prestidigitation'd pieces you capture (he hasn't had a physical chess set since Imma threw his congratulations-on-getting-into-seminary present into the fireplace), and sometimes tie other incentives to the game's hourglass or material points or exact board state. One time he was really pissed off at a junior cleric who'd been interfering with the martial officers and made him play over and over until he won, with Blai taking a slightly larger handicap each time until the junior cleric finally managed to beat six pawns, a knight, and a bishop, because Blai was making a point about experience counting for more than circles.

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Huh. Seldan can believe that Blai learned to play a strategy board-game in a threatening way, but it's pretty impressive that despite growing up in the horrifying thought experiment he managed to land on a style of punishment that also presents actual learning experiences and would raise only a few eyebrows in Valdemar.

...Does Blai also enjoy non-punishment chess and if so does he want to teach Seldan the rules? Seldan probably cannot manipulate pieces but being a Companion seems to have enormously improved his visualization ability and they could do it via Mindspeech. He's always liked strategy board-games and this sounds like it could be a particularly good one. 

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Blai has much less experience with purely recreational chess but he likes it! Grec, his second in command at the fortress, learned to play, after Blai had to stop doing punishment chess because it was not in the Lastwall disciplinary handbook, and that was nice. Blai loses track of pieces if he tries to play in his head and also his very favorite variant requires four people but Seldan being able to play mental correspondence chess is very neat. Vanyel should have mentioned this upside of Companions.

He came up with it because as an Asmodean theological matter it is meant to be the case that the exercise of power is desirable and appealing to those who wield it and he just doesn't actually like torturing people.

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Well, in normal places most people don't like torturing people, but in the horrifying thought experiment country, disprefering torturing people enough that you come up with punishment chess instead is quite admirable, really.

(Seldan is radiating warmth and smugness, but only a little bit. He's going to have to gradually push Blai's tolerance for other people experiencing emotions in his vicinity.) 

They're at the stable now and can maybe go inside where it's less dark and snowy? It's not uncommon for Heralds to just sleep out here, too, and Blai does technically have a guest room that Seldan would be happy to deliver him to later but is also welcome to stay here.

Though that's later. Right now Seldan wants to learn CHESS and confirm that his visual memory is in fact up for maintaining a board configuration, which he's pretty sure it should be; Companions have really good memories, it's some compensation for not having hands to write with. 

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If Seldan can hold a board in his head the question is whether Blai can then consult that board, and for bonus points whether he can do it without leaking all his strategic plans across the telepathic bond. He'll prestidigitate up a board so there's an example Seldan can use to visualize going forward.

If it's normal to sleep in the stables on one's Companion then Blai does not have a compelling reason to do some other thing instead. He can't sleep in his armor and his Endure Elements won't be wearing off in the middle of the night.

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Seldan can pretty easily memorize the example and then project a mental image of a board to Blai! He does have to back off from reading Blai's surface thoughts to avoid getting all his strategic plans, and only maintain the formal Mindspeech link so Blai can tell him how he wants his pieces moved and he can update the board-visualization; it takes a few fits and starts to get this right and then it's straightforward. (Seldan can still tell how Blai is feeling through the bond, which might or might not leak some information about his plans in the game.)

Chess is delightful! Partly because Blai likes it, but Seldan suspects he would find it delightful anyway. 

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To an insightful and mindreading person who is paying attention it is pretty obvious that much of why Blai likes chess so much is that it sponges up stray anxiety very handily. A fast complicated game gives him an unlimited number of things to worry about - he can always try projecting one more move ahead any time he has too many free mental spots. But all of those things he then worries about are "chess" as opposed to "devastating social censure" or "disembowelment" or "succubi" or "doing things against his religion" or "damnation".

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(Seldan is so pleased with himself. Blai is excellent. He got the beeeeeest Herald. Everyone thinks that about their Herald, of course, the Companion-bond is probably designed to ensure it and also there's clearly some actual selection for the normal kind of personality-compatibility. It's still true though. 

...He's keeping those thoughts to himself and not letting much of the associated feelings across the bond, since Blai is - well, somewhat emotionally stunted in some ways after surviving growing up in in the horrifying thought experiment country. He'll brainstorm ways to gently work on that later; for the moment, it genuinely doesn't bother him especially. Maybe other Companions would find the incessant worrying distressing or frustrating, but Seldan is inclined to see that partly as a skill they're lacking and partly as an incorrect framing on Blai as a person. Blai is really impressively well-adjusted given, well, all of the everything, and it feels like all the elements of him, incessant worrying included, are relevant inputs into why he outperformed his environment even when it was horrible. In short, this changes nothing about whether Blai is great.) 

Chess is also great! The fact that Blai enjoys it (and that it's an anxiety-reducing coping mechanism for him) is just a bonus, really. It's going to take Seldan a few days to learn it well enough that he can fully keep up with Blai, but he's always liked strategy games and been good at them. 

In his ideal world, they would spend the next several candlemarks playing chess and then sleep snuggled up in the stall, letting the physical contact finish solidifying the bond, and worry about the bigger picture in the morning like sensible people. 

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This is not Seldan - or anyone's - ideal world in as many as several ways. 

One of them is that after almost two candlemarks of chasing down every possible lead on Brightstar's current location, Vanyel is forced to admit that, one, Brightstar does not seem to be in Haven anymore, and, two, nobody actually seems to know when he left or where he was headed. 

Vanyel would like nothing more than for all of that to GO AWAY but he has a bad feeling. 

He grits his teeth and since Yfandes is NOT HERE starts tracking down and Mindspeaking relevant people or their Companions one at a time, the hard way. 

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They're about a candlemark into the process of Seldan learning chess when he interrupts. 

:Herald Vanyel just contacted me. There's a problem and apparently it shouldn't wait until morning. Apparently they've managed to misplace the young Tayledras man who know how to destroy the archmage's immortality. And everything else is chaotic enough that he could easily have quite a lot of accomplices, wherever he is.: 

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:I... don't have a spell suitable for that.  I don't think a lantern archon or an arbiter inevitable would have any special power to find him.  But if you need to go join a search pattern I can go see what became of my possessions since I was kidnapped?:

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:Vanyel thinks it's unlikely he's in Haven at all, searching nearby isn't a good use of anyone's time. He mainly wanted your advice on - orienting to this in general, what questions we should ask and what to be paranoid about. And he's considering whether we can get anything useful out of your prophecy spell – obviously we missed the opening to cast it on Brightstar, but it sounds like it was very useful every other time.: 

Pause to glance back at some of Blai's memories. :...Though we should get your possessions back either way. I'll work on that.: 

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:I have a prophecy and an Owl's both available if they'll help.:

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Seldan mulls on this. :It's probably still the case that you don't have the context to reason usefully about this, and I certainly don't.:

After a pause,

:Vanyel thinks Savil ought to get the wisdom spell. She's been guarding the Heartstone, but Vanyel considers this evidence that the Star-Eyed Goddess already abandoned the explode-things plan as unworkable and is trying something else. She'll head over here.: 

Another short pause. :...And bring your armor and weapon, picking it up is on her way.: 

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:Is that likely to be necessary?:

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:I have no specific reason to think so, but there's also no good reason for them to be gathering dust in Herald Katha's office, which is apparently where they ended up for some deeply unclear reason.: 

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:That doesn't sound like a good place for them, no.: He disappears the Prestidigitated chess pieces and gets up and brushes straw off himself.

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Seldan unfolds himself from the straw as well. 

It's going to be a little bit of a wait, though. :Tell me about the archmage?: He got a basic rundown of some of the history from Savil's Kellan - since Yfandes won't be available until they solve transport to Golarion - and he could go digging in Blai's memories, but sometimes it's nice to, instead, have a conversation. 

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:The one on this planet? His name is Leareth. I checked him for Law and he's Lawful. He kidnapped me and I was not very good at making that inconvenient for him but he let me go anyway. He has a Mindhealer minion and is based up north, but I've never seen a map of the continent we're on so I couldn't point it out.:

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:...What does it mean for someone to be Lawful? I mean, other than 'it's a way they can show up to a spell you have'.: Though having a kind of Sight for that must have fascinating ramifications on a society. 

For this, Seldan can and will also reach deeper in Blai's thoughts for the concepts associated there. 

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For seminary they just used obedience as a proxy. The kids who showed up on time, did all their homework, reported on their classmates, weren't under suspicion for anything like smuggling or primary worship or vandalism or heresy. But that's not what Law is. It hardly has to be, Asmodeus can take a Neutral Evil cleric. A lot of kids are true neutral and it's not hard to just make them worse. What Law is, is -

- showing up at a fort full of your worst enemies, and sleeping there without fear, and them letting you cast Remove Disease on their people without squinting at your gestures every time to make sure, because the treaty has held and it will not break here and will not break today -

- harboring a party of adventurers who were caught in a blizzard nearer your fort than any other, and there's a paladin in the party, and the paladin fucking hates you and radiates it in that disconcerting way foreigners have of screaming at everybody around them with their faces all the time, and the paladin doesn't attack you or your men and you provision them without being paid for it and send them on their way, because the insurance adjuster gives your budget a break for being ready for this kind of thing, so you are, and your CO believes your report and the reason he believes that is because it's true, except not in a way where he checked -

- gigantic edifices made of promises that could fall apart like a house of cards, and don't, because everybody decided they shouldn't. And the edifices withstand a century of demons, withstand sabotage and rumor, withstand suicide missions and privation and doubt and sometimes even enchantment. Just because everyone decided they should.

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....Seldan is thirsty for it, and that emotion he doesn't try to hide at all. 

 

It's something Valdemar is built on. Well, in a sense it's something every state structure more sophisticated than a warlord's personal demesne is built on, but - it's a very significant fact about Valdemar's history and founding that Valdemar was trying to do better. The main place they were trying to do better than was the Eastern Empire, which - Seldan doesn't know if Blai has any context on them yet - the thing about the Empire is that he thinks, once, they were aiming to be Lawful, and it didn't work, and they ended up running the entire thing on compulsions instead and could not really manage any better than "everyone will follow their incentives" – which to be clear isn't nothing to build on, avowed enemies will in fact cooperated in limited ways off that, but it doesn't go very far. Valdemar needed magic talking horses to make it work, and the opportunity for them to pick a lot of overawed teenagers and mold them into understanding and caring about - that thing. The thing that, in hindsight, he poured out thousands of words into trying to gesture at, not having it nearly so cleanly in his head. 

Velgarth, on the broader stage of international diplomacy, mostly doesn't get to have gigantic edifices built on promises. Sooner or later it all falls back to the degenerate form of "everyone follows their incentives", if not worse than that; he's gotten a very basic report on a recent war with Karse and it was not in anybody's interests and just set a lot of resources on fire. It's probably related to the fact that they don't have a spell for seeing it. Maybe a lot of the difference is just in how it changes the incentives, and thus the ways that avowed enemies who hate each other can nonetheless build something together. 

 

...He's rotating it in his head and trying to hold it up alongside Kellan's report of Leareth as someone who has absolutely no lines he won't cross. 

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Oh Seldan is very good. Blai is developing an increasing respect for whatever mechanism sent this magic talking horse out of all possible magic talking horses.

It's, you know, better not to have a Worldwound, you could probably do cooler stuff than hold a Worldwound if you had the same amount of Law and no demon portal, that's just where he's spent most of his life. He wouldn't actually have guessed the spells to see it and the gods to signal affiliation with were that important, he'd have guessed you could do a lot with reputation alone if you really tried, but maybe not.

Blai has no idea what lines Leareth won't cross except that he can't think of a legitimate conception of Law, developed in isolation with no feedback from Pharasma at any point, which would manifest in a man who wouldn't keep his solemn promises, and Leareth's attitude while swearing such promises - looked right. He was careful and he didn't make every promise that would have sounded good, and he was - obviously reaching for the thing you get if your promises are trusted and cannot have if they're wind in the trees.

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Ironic that as far as Seldan can tell from Kellan, the Heralds' attitude (everyone except Vanyel) for the past twenty years has been that the man's promises cannot be trusted at all and obviously he's saying whatever he thinks will get Vanyel to - what? - he's not even sure what they thought the goal would have been...

 

Running it off reputation does work quite well at local scales, in a particular place or time, among people who more or less like each other and agree on basic assumptions. He expects that quite a lot of Valdemar's noble landholders would read as Lawful, and are thought of that way, and everyone benefits from it. A king's promises to his kingdom do, usually, mean something. But it starts to break down across cultural divides, with people who don't share the same basic assumptions, and - 

- oh, it's because in Velgarth, there mostly just aren't separate concepts for Law and for, you know, being a decent person who cares about doing right by other people. Valdemar's edifice of promises is built on both, and most people would boggle at the concept that you could separate it even in principle. 

It makes sense that this is different in Golarion, where you can See if someone is Lawful and if they're Good as separate things, and "Lawful, but Evil" is an entirely cromulent way for a person to be. Also if you can see that someone is Lawful even when their culture's sense of what the important rules are is completely different and they keep offending you. The general tendency of people to write their enemies off as monsters who want bad things leads to writing them off as lawless, too.

You can do better for a little while. You can have treaties that hold for a generation or two. But it's rather common for diplomatic relationships between neighboring countries to completely break down when a well-regarded monarch dies, largely because everyone thinks of this as a normal thing to happen; it seems to be approximately what happened between Valdemar and Karse. You can't put nearly as much weight on an edifice of promises if you can only expect it to hold for a few decades. And then you end up in an equilibrium where it's common knowledge that of course diplomats lie all the time, and it's rather unclear how to move from that to anything else. 

Anyway, Leareth can't possibly have been getting much out of the reputational benefits, since to most people it's absurd that someone wouldn't stoop at killing millions of people but draws a line at lying. 

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Iomedae thought of Law and Good as being facets of some third thing that doesn't have a name, but - that is not how most people relate to it so it's not what reading those alignments off somebody in a normal situation means. If they're conflated totally here that must be confusing not just with respect to Lawful Evil people but also Chaotic Good ones, and they have those, Jisa was one! He's not sure how this confusion may have manifested around her and people like her, it doesn't look like they're having a hard time accepting her as a Herald?

If Blai were advising monarchs who were expecting to have this problem he'd advise them to loudly and perhaps repeatedly bring their successors to diplomatic meetings to reaffirm that they intend to go on abiding by the treaties in place years or decades before the change of leadership - they use Gates like Teleports but it seems logistically comparable, a nationstate should be able to spare a round trip for things like this. He's not sure how that would fail, it could easily fail in some way he wouldn't anticipate since he's not experienced in this area.

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Well, it fails because eventually at some step of the process people don't get around to doing that because something else is taking up all their resources, or because a monarch dies unexpectedly early and a twenty-year-old ends up on the throne, or because a lot of people become much less trustworthy once they have the power to do whatever they want and you can't tell in advance who will be like that. (Valdemar doesn't have that problem; the monarch has to be a Herald and their Companion wouldn't stand for it.) 

Seldan has already caught up enough on the Companion gossip network to have a very good idea of why Jisa might be anti-Lawful. Her heart is in the right place but she has a lot of growing up to do. She's accepted as Herald because she has a Companion and that's how it works, she's already not about to repeat some of her past mischief because her Companion wouldn't stand for it, and - well, probably in ten years she'll have learned to think more about long-term consequences before she acts and she probably won't read Chaotic anymore. She's fourteen. 

People can also make sense of someone Lawful and not especially Good, a cliche example being the wealthy merchant who might be cold to his wife and strict with his children and a miser with his friends but at least won't cheat you. But that's - still something people would frame as a character flaw, he's not the worst person you know but he's a a less decent person than a different merchant who doesn't cheat anyone and is also generous and kind and a loving father - and people would expect that merchant to be less trustworthy, more likely to take advantage of you in ways that weren't exactly outright cheating. 

In Valdemar, most people wouldn't trust a merchant who was known to sell slaves. It's different in other places but, generally, because selling slaves is seen as at most a minor vice, more on par with being cold to one's wife than with something seriously evil like murder. 

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...well now Blai is trying to figure out whether slavery is okay or not based on unreliable secondhand reports about Lastwall and a handful of rather coy references to it in the Acts and not getting much of anywhere with that and really hoping he can make it to Westcrown to meet that catechism tutor he asked for.

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They should debate it, Seldan can argue the position that slavery is fine and Blai that it's not and then once they've made all their arguments they can swap and at the end they figure out what they actually think they should not get into that right now. Seldan will get carried away and they'll be up all night, and also Savil will be getting here any minute. 

(The consensus in Valdemar is that slavery is not fine and to Seldan it feels internally obvious that this falls out of Valdemar being a more Lawful-and-Good place than average, and he's not hiding that thought from Blai, but it's not front and center.) 

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The vanguard of anti-slavery thought on Golarion or at least the Inner Sea region is Andoran, and they throw so many pirates, and Blai can imagine a world where there are Lawful Good pirates singlehandedly announcing and enforcing an international ban on slavery while letting legitimate slave-free ships proceed freely, if they had the power to do that effectively enough and the legitimacy to make a rule like that, but that's not as far as he knows what the Andoren pirates are doing. Probably there is a way to do both of ethical objections to slavery and also not piracy, or possibly Blai's information is filtered and distorted and actually the Andorens are doing the thing he just made up and it's fine, or possibly they're just Chaotic Good instead of Lawful Good and all his piracy objections are Lawful ones rather than Good ones since he barely has a conscience, or possibly the right thing to do is to not personally have any slaves but be chill about the neighbors doing it, or... something? What if the entire constitutional convention is like this, augh.

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Pirates are also not great! Whether it's worse to be a pirate who frees slaves or a slaver depends on what ethical principles you're working from and also a lot on the implementation of each thing, since both piracy and slavery can be practiced in more or less horrible ways. Seldan did once win an argument that it was closer to morally obligatory than morally prohibited to, given a set of assumptions that absolutely do not hold about actual Valdemar, conquer a neighboring country that was practicing slavery. 

(Seldan does not particularly consider "winning an argument for something" to be the same as being right. It's just that the process of figuring it out benefits from arguing all the pieces of it, and also Seldan really really enjoys arguments about moral philosophy.) 

- anyway, in practice Valdemar tries very hard to prevent any slavery or slave-trading from happening internally and glares disapprovingly at neighbors who permit it but otherwise leaves them alone. It's entirely possible for something to be very bad and also for all of the options to act about it being worse than the original problem. Most of the world is like that, really. 

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Well, it was probably morally obligatory to conquer Cheliax - though Andoran did not so far as he knows actually help, it was an archmage party and Galt and Rahadoum - and maybe the new queen abolished slavery and he just didn't get the update because mail service at the Wound is iffy. Valdemar's practice sounds like a Lawful Good thing to do even if it is not maximally effective at slavery-minimizing even within the constraints of Law and Good, and Blai certainly doesn't know what thing would be that.

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Yeah. Seldan is certainly glad that someone conquered the horrifying thought experiment country. Valdemar has a policy dating back to the founding King of never invading other kingdoms - a reaction against the Eastern Empire, which was in a constant state of trying to conquer all of its neighbors - and so obviously the Lawful thing to do is to keep to that even if Seldan can think of persuasive arguments for why setting that hard-and-fast rule in the first place was stupid. If anything could have persuaded the Heralds to break with that policy, it would have been Cheliax. 

- anyway they will have to put this conversation on hold because Savil is about to arrive. 

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Savil arrives, walking beside her Companion. She still looks exhausted. Blai's things are either piled over Kellan's saddle or, in the case of the mace, carefully stuffed into one of the saddlebags spiky-end-up. She manages a weary smile at Blai. 

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Vanyel is with her, looking cold and remote and honestly slightly terrifying. He doesn't say anything. 

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(Cheliax is actually right next to the arguably worse country Nidal, operated by a god who is, directly, of pain, instead of just using it instrumentally, but Nidal's been that way for thousands of years so presumably it is harder to dislodge than the seventy years of Infernal rule of Cheliax was.)

Did Vanyel get worse since Blai last talked to him? He looks a little worse. Blai puts his armor and mace on.

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(Well, it's now been even longer since he last had any sleep, and also his son probably has no idea he's alive and is most likely setting up to try to revenge-murder Leareth about it, and Leareth is the only one who can even conceivably find Blai's world, and maybe all of their heroic efforts won't even mean anything after all and he won't ever get Yfandes back. So, yes, Vanyel is worse than when Blai last talked to him.) 

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:Right. So you have a spell that makes someone better at thinking? Van thinks I should take it, and think about places to look or precautions we should be taking, and who to cast the prophecy spell on if we want to learn something related to Brightstar - though I realize that's not really how the spell works and we might learn about some completely different disaster instead.: 

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:I can't reach Leareth. Or Jisa.: Vanyel's mindvoice is very flat. :I'm hoping that just means they went north of the mountains to somewhere with better shields.: 

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Wow it is so inconvenient that everybody's "shields" in this magic system are spell resistance style instead of save-improvement style. :When you're ready,: he tells Savil, touching his holy symbol.

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:Ready.: 

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"Owl's Wisdom."

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Wow that's so weird. 

Savil closes her eyes and tries to think. 

 

:...Vanyel thinks the Star-Eyed Goddess and the others can't see clearly in Foresight. Maybe She can see Brightstar well enough to steer for him not to find out that Van is alive, but -whatever his actual plan is, it can't be - directly divinely guided - it's going to be something Brightstar could come up with on his own, with the resources we have. So in theory we should be able to think of it too. He can locate Leareth, to within twenty miles without warning him or precisely but Leareth would notice it. He can't expect to kill Leareth in single combat, so he'll have recruited people to help. Unfortunately we collected a lot of those in one place and - failed to communicate some of the nuances of the situation - and some of them are dubiously in our chain of command to begin with. He could get help from White Winds, he trained there - so did Jisa but she hasn't been around to argue her corner - the Ifteli forces could be convinced - I think not the Karsite forces, they're loyal to Karis, and not the mercenaries. We should focus on that, find out who's missing and how long, see if that leads us anywhere...: 

:...seriously considering if we should have the Companions mindread anyone they can, someone might have seen something and we can't formally question the entire population of Haven...: 

:...The thing is that Leareth could just leave, right - Van, how would you stop Leareth from just Gating out, don't answer you'll distract me but think about it...: 

:...Jisa knows more of what the White Winds Adepts in concert can pull off, I know they're really good at shields but not all the details but she could help us guess what he might be planning - we really need to be in contact with her - do we actually know if Enara reached her, could have a Companion in Waymeet try for her...: 

:- ARGH this is completely unrelated but I just remembered we have three of Leareth's people in the House of Healing and Blai has channels again -: 

 

The spell runs out. 

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:...if you don't need me to cast a prophecy right now I can run over to Healer's and channel.:

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:Probably you should do that.: In case, you know, something else is about to happen. :Just trying to finish my thought about the prophecy - um, the most useful person to cast it on would be Leareth, we assume a Brightstar plot is targeting him and seeing how it ends could help us trace back where he is now. My second thought was Jisa, because - if I had to task anyone with finding him using magic, it would be her. Neither of them is here and I think getting back in contact is our top priority.: 

Frown. :I was - I had just started thinking about whether we can get anywhere with the pastwatching spell, but it's not the standard usage of it, you need a person or object or location in the present to anchor it - if we had Brightstar here we could cast it on him to find out where he's been but we don't - my best thought was casting it on his quarters here, just keep going back until we see him there, and then run forward again and follow him, but I've never used the spell that way and it could take candlemarks, if we have any other ideas we should start with those.:

She closes her eyes. :Van, can you take Blai to the House of Healing? I'll go follow up with people who might have seen him in the last day. And get a ruling from the Senior Circle on mindreading everyone in Haven, assuming the Companions would even help, they might say no for mysterious Companion reasons.: Kellan said he wouldn't consider it without the King's permission, but that's not actually a "yes" to whether he would do it with an order from Randi. 

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:I'll absolutely skim all the minds I can reach in Haven, but it's not an ideal way to find out if someone saw him at noon today, they'd have to be thinking about it. Maybe if you also make an announcement that there's a reward if anyone comes forward with information? Someone might, and at the very least a lot of people would have it on their mind.: 

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Why is Vanyel necessary to take him to the House of Healing, surely Seldan knows where it is and he described his range like it can't possibly make any difference to that rather clever detect-thoughts-prompt idea if he's here or there or really in any particular location on the palace campus. Maybe Savil wants Vanyel there because they can give him opium or something and he can spend the next while waiting for a Raise Dead scroll high instead of - that. He doesn't speculate out loud but none of the people he's not saying it out loud to are Seldan. (Actually, he's not sure if he can in fact get privacy from Seldan in any meaningful sense which is usually not going to be an issue but, like, occasionally he wants five minutes with a handkerchief.) He climbs aboard to be brought where he's going. Should he make room for Vanyel.

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Sure, Vanyel will climb up behind him. He's moving like someone half in a dream. 

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Seldan is faintly amused. :It's very normal for Heralds to want privacy occasionally and I am capable of not reading your mind.: 

And, more seriously, :She wants him around people, mainly, and not walking around the grounds by himself late at night. And maybe hoping he'll happen to run into Melody and she can talk to him without it being a big deal – apparently it'll make it worse if anyone visibly acts like his Companion dying might be a big deal.: 

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Well, Blai has no idea how to act like someone's Companion dying is a big deal (he understands that it is but keeps autocompleting to the time he ordered some wizard to get an owl next time for night recon, he doesn't have any experience with people having big emotional deals that anyone else is supposed to act in some way about besides taking advantage of a vulnerability which he's figured out he should not do) so hopefully the thing he's doing is acting like it's not a big deal instead rather than a secret third thing.

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Nah, Blai is doing a perfect job of not showing any sign that it's salient to him. It's less natural for people who didn't grow up in an evil thought experiment and are generally inclined to demonstrate that they care about their friends' feelings, even when in a given instance it wouldn't actually help. 

(This is one of the things downstream of Blai being traumatized by Cheliax, so it's not great in general, but it's not false that it's better for Vanyel right now. ...This is one of the thoughts that Seldan keeps tucked away.) 

They ride for the House of Healing. 

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At the House of Healing Blai slides off his shiny new Companion and enters a building and is alarmed to discover that entering buildings is now, uh, alarming, but maybe that wears off after he is more used to having a Companion, and anyway it doesn't matter, he can ask the Healers to assemble the injured in whatever room will hold them all and channel at them.

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Seldan can still reach him with Mindspeech from outside and will hold a link the whole time. This is an entirely normal way to feel on the literal first day of having a Companion! It does get less like that, once the bond is firmly enough in place then being physically separated doesn't feel like being actually apart in the same way. Also it's kind of silly that it's been how many centuries and there is exactly one room in Healers' with a stall for a Companion or a way for them to get in. You would really have thought that maybe eventually Valdemar would get around to horse-friendly architecture, but no. 

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The injured people from Leareth's organization specifically are apparently sharing a room at the end of the hall already, but it takes Vanyel several minutes of talking to four different very tired people to determine this for sure.

And then there's a brief debate on bringing over the handful of other patients who would benefit from a spell that only heals injuries - there's an old man with a broken hip and a toddler who was badly scalded by pulling a pot of boiling water onto herself, and they would definitely benefit from Healing, but not everyone is fully on board with moving them to the room that currently contains the captured survivors from Leareth's kidnapping mission. Not that they seem that likely to do anything but they just seem like untrustworthy sort of people to be around toddlers, you know. 

Vanyel eventually just asks Blai if his channel could hit people out in the hall as well as long as the door was open. 

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:As long as there's an unobstructed line from me to each person, yes.:

Blai wonders if Lastwall has horse-friendly architecture. He has no idea and is not sure if it will ever make sense to visit the place and find out. It seems like maybe the best area to do a Nap Stack in might be the stables? Unless the Companions are actually getting normal amounts of sleep while their Heralds run around madly, or the Healers catching a couple hours in the stables would be unthinkable, or something.

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The Healers will carry the other patients over, then, the old man in a chair that four people have picked up the corners of and the child in someone's arms. 

There are three surviving mages from Leareth's strike force (a fourth didn't make it.) Two have fairly horrifying levinbolt burns and the third has a lot of broken bones from having been flung very hard into a wall. 

Feniss is also in the room, clearly uninjured but looking like she's had a spectacularly stressful last few days. Somewhat confusingly, the magic sword formerly belonging to Jisa is laid out on one of the cots, rather than in her possession.

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Seldan thinks the stables are an entirely reasonable place for a lot of people to catch up on sleep! The Healers don't usually come over there much but it wouldn't be unthinkable or anything, and the Companions are weathering the slack of sleep better - they're very tough - but they certainly wouldn't say no to a chance to catch up properly on rest. 

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Blai channels, and then if they don't need him for anything else in there he's going to walk right out again to Seldan.

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Vanyel stays. Probably someone ought to explain to the recovered mages what in the world is going on, and no one else is offering, and he's already here. 

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Seldan is waiting right where Blai left him! 

:I suppose we might as well return to the stables. I'm not sure whether to expect Savil to need us again, and I can keep mindreading random people from there just as well. Haven't gotten anything useful yet, though.: 

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:Should we be figuring out logistics on going north to cast the prophecy on Jisa or Leareth before coming back down for a Stack tomorrow, or is that handled?:

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:Well, neither of us can Gate and you aren’t even a Mindspeaker, and I wasn’t under the impression that any of your spells would help find where in the north they relocated to, which we need to target a Gate anyway. I’ll tell you right away if I hear any plans.: 

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Back to the stables it is, then.  This was more relaxing as a prospect before, when he was coming off the overwhelm of having just gotten himself a psychic link to a magic horse, instead of after a sudden update followed by poorly scheduled healing, but the stables have chess in them now so they're still pretty good.

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Seldan is noticeably slower at chess when he’s trying to multitask with several conversations and also passively skimming surface thoughts, but it’s pretty impressive he can do it at all. 

(He’s not actively interrupting Blai with updates, but his thoughts are accessible if Blai wants to track what’s going on.)

He has yet to find anyone thinking anything at all informative about Brightstar. He has more leads on sightings of White Winds mages and the Ifteli representatives in Haven, but this has yet to point anywhere especially useful. 

Twenty minutes in he has an actual update. :The mages you Healed have Gate-locations in the north and can manage the range. The awkward part is that last they knew, you were suspected of destroying k’Treva Vale. Vanyel is trying to update them on the situation.:

And it’s still the case that no one can reach Leareth or Jisa, even using the artifacts that ought to target them directly and that you would really think should be keyed to the shields on Leareth-run facilities. It’s been over two candlemarks now since their last successful contact. Seldan is getting very uneasy about it, and - a little worried that none of the people able to act on it are in very good shape to be making decisions quickly.

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Should Blai go talk to the... kidnappers... or is this not the kind of suspicion where that would improve matters?

It's disconcerting that the fifty sending scrolls glued together aren't working. What are they doing instead of working?

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One of them is a Thoughtsenser and, like, it ought to be pretty convincing if they read his mind that he cannot possibly have been involved with k’Treva (and is from another world and all that). Vanyel thinks he can talk them around to that in a few more minutes.


They’re having a “can’t reach the search-target” failure with the artifact, which unfortunately would look exactly the same if the problem is being too far away (though it really shouldn’t be), shields on Leareth’s end, or shields in the middle. It hadn’t seemed plausible to Vanyel that the Star-Eyed Goddess could do that using the Heartstone, but both of the other possibilities sound implausible too.

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They really need to invent some shields that work more like saves than like spell resistance around here. Does the thoughtsensing kidnapper want Blai over there to mindread like now or like after a blitz game or two?

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…They’ve got time for a game or two. And then will probably go meet somewhere other than the House of Healing - the Gate-terminus would make the most sense, if they're planning to imminently Gate out - but Seldan does not yet have word on that and wherever it is they can get there a lot faster than Vanyel-and-friends can. 

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How does one get a Gate location and what happens if you try to Gate somewhere you don't have one? Teleports have a miss chance but it's also possible to aim one with a good enough painting.

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You target a Gate with a search-spell routing through the Void, aimed at a target you have to hold clearly in your mind. It's possible to target a Gate-spell in a lot of ways, though Valdemar has apparently only recently relearned this fact after losing that part of their Eastern Empire heritage entirely - the simplest and easiest to learn (though it's still quite advanced) is to put the other end on a doorway-shaped thing in a place you've been before. You can also Gate to somewhere you've only seen in Farsight, or only seen in someone's memories, or - with highly specialized training - to an area marked on a map, or even aiming purely by distance and bearing; a prerequisite for that is the also-very-difficult skill of building the threshold unscaffolded on the other end, which Valdemar wasn't successfully teaching its mages even in Seldan's time and which they apparently forgot was possible at all in the intervening years. A painting would probably be harder than Farsight or memories but easier than dead reckoning. 

If you fail to hold the target clearly enough in mind, or have an inaccurate mental image, or are trying to Gate to a place that no longer exists - he heard this happened recently when Savil attempted to bring Blai to k'Treva - the search-spell just keeps looking and looking, draining the mage's energy the whole time. It's possible for an inexperienced mage to drain themselves unconscious like that, if they don't take it down in time - and taking an incomplete Gate down is nontrivial, the departure threshold has to be very stable to anchor the search-spell and so resists being dismantled - so it's generally not recommended. 

He's never heard of a failure mode of Gates being ending up in a random place instead, though, that's bizarre. 

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So when the kidnapper opens a gate to a place that he's the only person in Haven to be able to gate to, every gate-capable mage in Haven is going to be supervising telepathically, right? So they can see the place? This is surely standard procedure whenever any gates to novel locations are opened? And whenever somebody new is working on learning to Gate they go on a field trip with a senior Gate-capable mage to all of the standard places?

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(Checking that...) 

They can get every Gate-capable Herald-Mage in Haven to nab the Gate-location but that is disappointingly few people! Vanyel had been intending for himself and Savil to get it, but north of the mountains is extreme range even for them. Vanyel should have the power for it but is apparently unusually incompetent at Gates due to some sort of poorly understood injury associated with how his Gifts were awakened, Seldan should try to properly get the rundown on that but it seems to be a topic that Kellan finds upsetting. Savil can probably do it. There are only two other Herald-Mages anywhere near Adept-potential, one of whom has a bad heart that makes strenuous magic risky and one of whom is blind and suffered permanent lung damage in an accident a few years ago. The others just aren't powerful enough, and - without the permanent Gate-terminus, it was really bad that they lost the permanent Gate-terminus - none of them have that kind of range. 

There are of course several dozen other Adepts in Haven right now, but given their current situation it does not seem like they can reasonably trust White Winds with this. Maybe they can trust the mercenaries, Seldan personally feels that mercenaries are often very - he supposes 'Lawful' is right, it's not a word he had before - and can be trusted to report to whoever holds their contract and pursue whatever objective they're given by that chain of command. But this seems to be the first time in multiple centuries that Valdemar has actually engaged mercenaries and Savil and Vanyel are both nervous about it. 

 

(Reading between the lines, he's getting the sense that Valdemar's broader policies around Gating and Gate-training have been heavily affected by the fact that everyone hates Gating, which is unsurprising because Gates suck for the first several hundred until you get efficient at it. You should really solve this by making everyone do a few hundred Gates while still a student, but it's somewhat understandable that Valdemar settled on minimizing use of Gates instead, especially since they're brutal on the weather and Valdemar, unlike somewhere like the Eastern Empire, doesn't have a wealth of weaker mages to work on remediating that.) 

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Oh, well, it trades off with Nap Stack, but once everyone has sleep he can fix blindness. As long as her eyes are still there and merely don't work. If they are actually gone it needs a Regenerate. Surely it shouldn't matter if it's at the edge of their range from Haven? As described it will still be useful to have ever seen the place if they want one day to go there from Waymeet.

...Control Weather is a seventh circle spell. It's admittedly an odd reaction to have to a complaint about a weather-mage shortage but they could make so much money doing weather magic on Golarion. (The gates too. The range limit is disappointing - cleric-spell Gates don't have those - but the throughput is like a miniature Teleportation Circle, and those are huge. The party of archmages is a big deal in part because you need two cooperating archmages to do a teleportation circle and that's not a condition that often obtains and it's a gigantic military logistics lever.)

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Apparently starting from Waymeet still doesn't put anywhere north of the mountains in range for the weakest Herald-Mages, or make it a good idea for the disabled Herald-Mages to attempt it (though if Blai's magic can fix Sandra's eyes, that would be wonderful). If Savil does need to go north in the next few days, she could leapfrog it by first catching a Gate to Waymeet cast by one of the less trusted and less scarce non-Valdemaran mages. Or maybe it will matter one day in the future, but no one is really thinking that far ahead and Seldan isn't sure they're wrong not to be. 

Huh! Weather magic isn't even that hard. It takes power, but it's also amenable to being split up between people rather than requiring true concert-work (concert-Gates, for example, are possible but difficult, and Valdemar seems to have lost the lore for that too until quite recently.) He remembers the Herald-Mages complaining about it rather a lot, it's apparently tedious, but it doesn't even require Adept-potential if you have enough Master-potential mages to divvy it up. Valdemar may have a shortage, but Leareth certainly doesn't. 

...They should play some chess. Things might be about to get stressful again but they aren't stressful again yet

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Jisa is standing watch and she can't get the stupid comms artifact to work. 

(She's not the only one - after some discussion with the kyree, and some time studying the shields and declaring that they're actually just as good as anything he has and less based on any school of magic known to other humans, Leareth Gated in some of his people - but she was the one tasked with staying in touch with Vanyel while Leareth gets some sleep. Also popping into the Void every ten minutes to CHECK HIS IMMORTALITY SETUP, which she half can't believe he trusts her with at all, but THAT part is going fine. It's still totally undisturbed.

She's not sure they're in the clear yet, obviously, but - maybe Vanyel got to Haven in time to defuse the trap, because the Star-Eyed Goddess wasn't expecting Blai's prophecies to warn them or for Vanyel to persuade a different god to send Blai a Companion. She's kind of delighted that Blai has a Companion now? It seems like it could be really good for him.) 

Ughhhhhhh. She feels like she's almost certainly just doing it wrong somehow, but she had it working before! At shorter range, maybe, but with more difficult targeting!

 

She tries again. 

It doesn't work again. 

 

Jisa grits her teeth. She's probably just screwing it up and will die of embarrassment when Leareth has no trouble with it, but - what if something happened to Van. Or what if they're all wrong and the Star-Eyed can directly interfere with spells at that level of granularity - it would be weird, scrying Haven apparently still works fine but... 

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Enara snuggles up against her. :He won't be angry if you wake him.: 

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That's not the point, the point is that Jisa will feel like she failed Fine. She knows Enara is right. 

 

She grits her teeth. :Leareth, we might have a problem–: 

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They have time for almost an entire chess game before Seldan interrupts again with more news. 

 

Vanyel, it sounds like, is now arguing for heading north as well, having pointed out that his trip here has already served its purpose of proving he isn't dead. 

(Reading between the lines, asking Leareth's people to Gate Blai - known to be a priest of a god - and his Companion to one of Leareth's secure northern facilities and give its location to the Heralds is - a much bigger ask - than just letting them go with a message to bring back to Leareth. Vanyel, at least, is someone they know Leareth approved of and hoped to be able to work with, and it seems like that was enough that they were willing to hear him out.) 

They're also not going to do a Gate from the main Gate-staging area, because Vanyel pointed out that there are still a lot of people in Haven who don't report to the Heralds' chain of command and could potentially be in on whatever is going on. So they're going back to the House of Healing to Gate from the shielded room there, and hopefully the kidnapper-mages will actually agree to take Blai as well once they read his mind. 

(Leareth's mages tried a comms spell as well and apparently couldn't get through either, including to a somewhat less secure contact-point. It could just be out of range - it's apparently over eight hundred miles - but they didn't think it was that. Which makes it seem more likely that something or someone - or Someone - is blocking all communications out of Valdemar.) 

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It's so weird that being an Iomedaean makes him untrustworthy. A former Asmodean, sure, but they don't know that. Blai has not met anyone from Rahadoum and certainly has never been there, but he's pretty sure even they know that you can just ask for a promise, from an Iomedaean, and get it kept. But sure he can go get mindread. What are they going to want him to be thinking about? If "out of Valdemar" is likely to be the actual operative constraint is there another country they could stage things from, maybe Rethwellan, that's come up before as a friendly country?

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It sounds like the part that was most relevant to Leareth deciding to un-kidnap Blai was the being from another world, which shouldn't take long to be sure of from reading his mind but maybe he can focus on thinking about all the things that are extremely different in Golarion? And the fact that gods in his world have known alignments and Iomedae is Lawful Good, though Leareth's people won't have prior familiarity with those concepts; the fact that Iomedae used to be mortal is probably more convincing on the matter of Her being a goddess Leareth could conceivably work with rather than having to work around.

Oh, and he should probably think through what happened with k'Treva just so it's really obvious he wasn't in any way involved. 

 

They'll be back at the House of Healing within five minutes. Seldan is mulling on whether it's feasible even in principle to relocate the Senior Circle decisionmakers to Rethwellan tonight or on whether it would have to be more of a long-term plan once the immediate emergency is solved, but he does have attention for at least a few more chess moves (in case he notices that Blai is worrying unproductively.) 

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Okay. He can direct... some of... his thoughts toward those things. Unfortunately for the people who are going to be reading his mind he will also be thinking about how he is aware of memory modification magic so it's not LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE that he blew up k'Treva himself even though he certainly can't think how he'd have gone about it if he'd wanted to or what might have possessed him to be so inclined. And how Iomedae is Lawful Good but he's probably not Good because of how he was an Asmodean cleric for twenty years. And how on Golarion he's going to have to attend a constitutional convention as a religious delegate and he is not even totally clear on what that is or how to accurately represent Iomedae's interests in any remotely unusual case. And how Norgorber lives in Axis for some reason. Knight takes pawn.

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Once they get back to the room again: 

These mages are SO TENSE in Blai's presence (and not, like, showing it much at all by Valdemaran standards, but they aren't Chelish.) He'll get a stiff :It seems we probably owe you an apology: in Mindspeech, though, and then the mage-Thoughtsenser glances at Vanyel and actually asks for permission before mindreading him. 

...His thoughts do seem to line up with the story Vanyel has been determinedly trying to convince them of, though. (If anything Blai thinking about the existence of memory modification is reassuring, reminiscent of Leareth's style of carefully hedging how sure he is of something.) 

 

This doesn't mean they're delighted about bringing a priest with miracle-magic north, even to a not-particularly-secure facility to start with, solely on Vanyel's report that Leareth would definitely be okay with this. (Vanyel offered to let them mindread him about the interaction Blai had with Leareth, but he's kind of difficult to mindread anything detailed off because of the thing where most of his mind is howling misery.) 

They will politely ask if he minds thinking about the circumstances under which Leareth agreed to meet with him, and also about what he thinks his goddess' intentions would be toward the situation here. 

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If it helps he can go over what spells he has prepared for the day. The Planar Inquiry is admittedly potentially dangerous but it takes ten minutes to cast so it would be really easy to interrupt him before he could get it all the way cast, if they want to escort him? - sure, he met Leareth indirectly when kidnapped and then again like so with the Law detection and the prophecy -

- Blai kind of doesn't think Iomedae has any intentions here? She's broke. Prophecy doesn't work on Golarion so he doubts she saw the plane shift snake thing coming, let alone bestirred herself to place it. He's pretty sure his being here is a complete coincidence. Her interests in full generality where She doesn't have any ongoing operations or commitments are just, like, the flourishing of Goodness and of Lawful institutions that will carry on promoting and defending that Goodness going forward, but Blai is one random unprepared priest without marching orders.

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Whether Blai was sent here by pure accident wouldn't necessarily imply that She doesn't have aims now that She happens to have someone here anyway, but - being "broke", whatever that even means for a god, plausibly means more? ...What does it mean for a god to be "broke" and how did that happen with Iomedae? 

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Oh, gods (normal gods) (sorry, Golarion gods) are not free to just do as much as they want on the Material plane. Some combination of making it so they don't just cancel each other out, and too much direct action being harmful to the world or something, and probably also a bunch of stuff Blai doesn't understand because he's a mortal. But you need this concept to make sense of what things the gods choose to do and Iomedae's church is particularly concerned with it because She's a young goddess and plausibly less powerful than most, and because it's a strength of organized Lawful churches to allocate things efficiently within their scope.

Anyway, a bunch of nice things happened recently like the Worldwound closing and Cheliax getting conquered and Iomedae presumably did some stuff to make that work out and now She's broke. As far as Blai knows he might be the only new empowered Iomedaean selected in the last eighteen months. He is pretty sure he was available at a discount because that's the only way that makes any sense as an expenditure but he's not sure what he's... for... yet, and it probably isn't anything on Velgarth.

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Those are a bunch more concepts that definitely seem to fit with Blai being from another world, and with Leareth being motivated to investigate whether his goddess might, in fact, not be terrible! 

The mages briefly confer among themselves and agree that they'll raise a concert-Gate for Blai and his Companion as well as Vanyel. (To a lower-security facility that isn't particularly close to anywhere that important, because they don't trust the Heralds' security that far.) 

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Conveniently the shielded room is the only one with a Companion-accessible side door and stall, so Seldan can slip in for the Gate. 

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Savil has arranged to troop over to actually peek at the room they're putting the other end of their Gate in, rather than rely on Vanyel pulling her into rapport. And also so that she can hug Vanyel before he goes. 

:You're sure you want Stef to stay behind?: she sends privately. 

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No. It's going to be awful. 

:We have no reason to believe Haven isn't safe, now. And - we might be out of communication with you again once we leave, if it's the Web blocking us - the Senior Circle should know if. If anything happens to me.: 

And if Stef is here, among people who can rally to take care of him, then - maybe he has slightly better odds of surviving Vanyel's death. Not that Vanyel is sure he would wish that on Stef, but... 

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:...I'm worried about you, ke'chara.: 

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Well can she please stop that

:I'm not going to do anything stupid.: He doesn't want to ruin things for Leareth, now that it's finally just starting to look like maybe Leareth was never his real enemy, and if he dies for real - even if he's sure it wouldn't be Leareth's fault - that could still be enough to make everything fall apart. 

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Savil does manage to realize (with a bit of prompting from Kellan) that continuing to look dubious about this would definitely not help. 

:Good luck.: 

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And they can go through a Gate into an underground but spacious room. 

There'll be a bit of a wait while the mages confirm that they can get in touch with the other bases now, and then pass up a high-priority message that Blai and Vanyel are here and need to urgently talk to Leareth or at least get a message to him. 

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In the meantime, chess? 

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is Seldan sure that this isn't a high priority worrying time such that chess!!!

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It's really not a high-priority worrying time! In two to five minutes they'll have way more information to inform worries! 

(Seldan is going to keep abusing the chess=less anxious Blai button as much as he can until the bond is more established and he knows Blai better. And maybe after that, it's not like playing a lot of mental chess is a hardship.) 

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Nayoki receives an urgent report that Vanyel and the priest just arrived at an outlying facility with some of the strike team mages previously held captive in Valdemar; they've been out of contact and they have important news. 

...She'll request a Gate over there immediately, and - probably Leareth has noticed that comms to Valdemar are blocked, which is something they had half-expected to happen at some point given how hard the Star-Eyed Goddess seems to have been trying to cut them off before. But she'll reach out anyway. 

<Leareth. Vanyel and the priest of Iomedae came north with word from Haven, were cut off. Gating to them now.> 

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<Acknowledged.> 

Not incredibly surprising, no. At least they can down-prioritize scrying Haven, and focus on finding out if anything is happening in Waymeet - or elsewhere along the border, but Waymeet is the single most likely place they would see it if some of the forces Valdemar has accumulated decide not to listen to the Heralds' orders to stand down, and stage some kind of offensive north. 

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Elsewhere, just north of the Valdemaran border: 

 

It's possible for a well-organized team of White Winds Adepts to raise a variety of quite impressive shields. 

Most of them aren't workable if you have twenty-seven people and a circle with a thirty-mile diameter to try to cover, which is as narrowed-down as Brightstar could get the area where he's pretty sure Leareth is hiding. But a highly targeted shield against specific kinds of magic is, while a lot more difficult in a detail sense, much less energy-intensive per mile to cover, not to mention less detectable.

And Brightstar had a chance to look at the artifacts Leareth sent with the priest he had tricked. They should be able to block that as well as all the communication-spell variants that he and the other Adepts could think of. 

The hardest part was raising the structure of a shield - the most stable shape is a sphere - and selectively putting less power into one side of it. Leareth has to be expecting countermeasures on the Valdemaran side, but if they move prematurely to block him from his own people north of the mountains, he's liable to get spooked and run. 

 

He doesn't know what Leareth is planning next, except that according to their encounter-in-passing with the rumor mill in Waymeet, it involved an imposter playing Vanyel. Convincingly enough that the Heralds sent him south, apparently, which isn't good. 

Doesn't matter. They're almost in position, and this is their last chance to end this now. It might already be too late, with Leareth forewarned, but they can't not try. 

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A mindvoice reaches for him, from thirty miles north, the other end of their circle. 

:- We detected a communication-spell.: And a mental sense of the bearing. It's coming from the north, slightly east. 

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Even with this many skilled Adepts, they don't have the ability to overhear messages. But the communication-spell has to put a bit of extra energy into punching through the weaker half of their shield, and that part can be detected. 

They've detected messages going the other way already, but this is the first time a communication was initiated by the greater body of Leareth's forces, north of the mountains.

It could be anything. But one of the things it could be is that - presumably Leareth has a number of mages on recon duty. If they've noticed something, then Brightstar has just run out of time. 

 

:Bring up the other half of the barrier. We have to move now.: 

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Jisa is in the privy. (Or, well, the cave-chamber set aside for that use, she's not about to troop outside for it in the middle of the night when they're on high alert.) This isn't the ideal time to have to go, but she's had a lot of chava tonight. 

So of course that's when Leareth Mindtouches her, because that is just the kind of night they're having. 

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:Word from Nayoki. Vanyel and Blai went north. I think we ought leave to join them.: A lot of the justification for staying on this side of the mountains was that it cuts the distance to Haven and makes the communication-spell less expensive, but Leareth was already on the edge of calling to evacuate, and this is confirmation. 

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:Um. I'm coming! Two minutes?: 

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The mages on scrying duty haven't seen anything happening in Waymeet. 

:Two minutes.: 

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They have a wing of gryphons staged in Iftel - not that far away - and ready to fly through a Gate. And a mage who can cast one in midair if given a location. And they have a weapon that should discharge as much energy as Vanyel's Final Strike. 

The problem is that Leareth is not in the pass, which would be easier to target, and is behind very good shields. And they won't have long, once Leareth has the additional warning from Brightstar plucking at the immortality-spell to narrow down his exact location. The only way Leareth might not notice it is if it coincides with something very distracting.  

His Goddess is with him, but She can't do the work for him. Only give them better chances. 

 

 

 

There's a spell in Highjorune that holds together a fault-line in the earth, preventing an earthquake that could easily destroy that entire side of Valdemar. Brightstar spent quite a long time studying it, trying to understand it well enough to figure out if anything needed to be fixed; it was left behind by a Healing-Adept a long time ago, and hadn't been maintained since. 

It didn't particularly need to be fixed, but Brightstar learned a lot about spells that prevent earthquakes. The principle behind a spell to cause an earthquake isn't that different. All it needs is a remarkable amount of power, and knowing where to put it. 

Brightstar is a Healing-Adept with Earthsense, and as of recently, a White Winds Adept as well. He has the power and the Sight to pull this off. An earthquake won't kill Leareth unless he gets absurdly lucky, but it should damage an underground base badly enough to take down its shields, and it should definitely be very very distracting. 

 

:Now: he sends, and triggers the spell that he's spent the last candlemark building. 

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The ground heaves and flings Jisa over and into a wall.

She tries to scramble up, but her trews are still down around her ankles and she thinks she bumped her head; her physical shields were enough that she's not injured, but her head is ringing and it's taking her a few seconds to regain her focus. 

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Enara is in a different section of the cave, with Leareth. 

:Jisa! - Leareth, she–: 

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Leareth isn't panicking because it wouldn't help. 

 

This is actually quite predictable as godinterference goes. Standard repertoire. But it would only show up as a useful nudge in Foresight if something bad were going to happen, and Leareth isn't that easy to kill. 

- Jisa. 

(She can probably get out. She's able to cast unscaffolded Gates. But she doesn't have Leareth's reflexes, or the decades of combat experience it takes to focus instantly under pressure.

And - one way this could look worth it as an intervention is if the King's daughter, lifebonded to the heir, dies in a way that looks plausibly like Leareth's fault. There are a lot more ways the peace with Valdemar could fall apart, in that scenario.)

There isn't time for that line of thought to unpack itself explicitly; the thought is Jisa! and then Leareth is in motion. 

:Get the Companion out: he snaps to the mages he brought here. :Split up, cover me–: And he's sprinting toward Jisa's mind, just barely managing to keep his balance. The ceiling and floor are flexing, but for the moment, the shields are holding, and nothing comes crashing down on his head. Yet. 

 

He tries to reach for Nayoki with the communication-spell and it doesn't work and he doesn't have time to unpack that either - 

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Brightstar is twenty miles away and the ground is still shaking hard enough to knock him over. 

But not enough to distract him from diving into the Void and - pluck - 

The shields Leareth is hiding under aren't down, but they are damaged. 

 

 

:- Here. 

- go now go go go–: 

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Enara tumbles through a Gate into a facility that Nayoki departed literally fifteen seconds ago. 

 

 

She immediately starts Broadsending to whoever is in range. :Earthquake - godplot - Leareth and Jisa are still there -: 

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Enara can't reach out through the shields, but the mage who Gated Nayoki out is among the fifty or so people in range, and her alert reaches them some number of seconds ahead of when the scrying-mages would have noticed the earthquake and flagged it. 

 

That seems really important! Nayoki should know that right away! 

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Nayoki is with Vanyel and Blai and Seldan and was already trying to reach Leareth. Vanyel's warning about Brightstar, and Blai's presence here, were in her mind plenty of reason to push them to "immediately evacuating back north." 

 

She can't get through. 

She could with no trouble several minutes ago and she can't now and that cannot possibly be good–

 

- oh.

Earthquake. 

Earthquakes don't block comms spells. Also, an earthquake would only inconvenience Leareth, with the number of shield-talismans he's wearing. So that can't be the whole plot, which means - something else is probably about to happen, and she was too slow to warn Leareth that more is afoot than just a bad-luck natural disaster - 

Leareth is not stupid and will almost certainly notice from his end that he can't reach her. He's apparently delayed by getting Jisa out as well, but will probably be able to Gate both of them north in the next ten seconds, and so it would be stupid of her to leap in there now. 

 

She updates Vanyel and Blai and Seldan in a rapid-fire burst of Mindspeech. Enara was just evacuated from the kyree caves, which is where Leareth still was; there's an earthquake; her communication-spell was working and now it isn't; Leareth and Jisa are still over there but will probably make it out -

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Blai is acutely feeling the lack of having ever looked at a map of this place. What you need to do is you send somebody up with a Fly and have them sketch and then you have a visual that you can consult, move mental tokens around on - it's like trying to play chess on the beach, pieces swept here and there by the tide and the shapes on the sand impersistent, to think about strategy without having ever seen a map, trying to dead-reckon by vague notions like that they are "north" and certain numbers of miles away from other things.

He needs to be sitting on Seldan in case they have to run suddenly, and to have both of them - and Nayoki if she'll take one - Guidanced, and to be ready to cast something so he can only have one hand tangled in mane - Qualm if they find a culprit, Prayer if they find a battle -

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Blai is excellent and Seldan is so pleased with himself about having a Herald who isn't an inexperienced teenager. 

Seldan is also feeling pretty disoriented and wishing he'd had more than a handful of candlemarks to learn his way around. Nayoki at least probably has a mental map of where they are relative to Leareth and Jisa right now, but - it sounds like she doesn't know much more than they do about where exactly other things are happening or how narrowly targeted the communications-blocking effect is on Leareth - 

Being ready to fight or run is almost always a good idea, though, and he'll take a Guidance and ask Nayoki if she wants one - Vanyel, too, if there's going to be time for that before they hear one way or another whether Leareth successfully got himself and Jisa out. 

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She'll take a Guidance. She's also taking comms-spell reports from several different mages on scrying duty and should know almost instantly if they see any discharge of magic in the region, or anything other than an earthquake. 

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He has line of sight to Jisa now. He's still ten yards away and it's very difficult to move in a straight line, but he can get a Gate up under her, and either make his way there or drop it once she's through and do his own - 

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A little less than fifteen seconds is a very impressive interval to go from Brightstar's alert to a Gate five hundred meters in the air above the location he gave them. 

 

It still shouldn't have been nearly fast enough, if they hadn't also gotten very very lucky. 

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Jisa tumbles out of the air beside Enara and immediately scrambles up to look back through the Gate. 

"Leareth–" 

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The shielding on the caves still isn't entirely down. Everything fancy was disrupted in the last ten seconds, shielding against search-spells of various kinds is delicate enough that the configuration of the stone changing by that much was enough to break it, but the kyree of Hot Springs Clan have been here for centuries, they are aware that earthquakes happen, and the physical shielding and force-nets are holding up. 

 

If the shielding had been totally undamaged, they probably could have held off the white-hot fireball that goes off less than twenty yards above the ground. 

 

As it is, though, they absorb less than half the force of it before going down. 

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Leareth is almost to the Gate and Jisa is not stupid enough to go back over and try to help him when he just put himself at significant risk to get her out because she sucks and couldn't get together an unscaffolded Gate on ten seconds' notice just because she had a bonk on the head

She sees the light of something awful shining through the stone and then - debris flying - and then the Gate isn't there anymore. 

 

Where are they? Doesn't matter - there are some mages here who presumably work for Leareth - and Enara has been here for longer than five seconds and should know who to talk to - 

:Enara he's still back there: 

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The full wing of gryphons who followed the weapon through the Gate immediately flew up rather than down, and are still knocked around quite a bit, a bit but they're the most elite flyers in all of Iftel, they can handle some heat and turbulence. 

They wait ten seconds for the blaze of fire to peak and subside, and then descend toward the wreckage. 

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Void, again. 

 

Pluck. 

 

And back. :He is still alive. Same location.:

But he must be trapped and incapacitated, or he would surely have fled. Brightstar can't pin down his location more precisely than a hundred-yard radius or so, but that just isn't that much rubble to search. 

They're so close. 

Goddess, be with me now. And he starts working on his own Gate. 

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Nayoki gets several communication-spells at the exact same moment, and might have had more trouble untangling who was saying what if not for the Guidance. 

:- Leareth did not make it out - there was an explosion, maybe a Final Strike, and the site is under attack by gryphons.: She doesn't actually have any way of knowing if Leareth is even alive, but she has to assume he is.

:I am going in.: Nayoki can do unscaffolded Gates and has a Farseer's relayed image to target it off (aiming for just far enough away that they don't have to wait for the ground to cool down). She's not actually going to wait to see if the others are following her through. 

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Vanyel tries for his own Gate without thinking, can't land the search-spell at all, remembers that it's unlikely anything door-shaped in the caves is going to be very intact, and starts putting shields on Blai and Seldan instead. 

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Blai will drop the Comprehend Languages if he needs to do a heal and there are enemies in his radius. He's mostly focused enough on the immediate situation to not have the problem he sometimes has where as soon as he's identified a spell as acceptable to lose in favor of a Cure he starts berating himself for having prepped that spell and not something that would have hurt more to drop. Are he and Seldan going to follow, it seems like it might be reasonable either way depending on how surefooted Companions are in rubble. Is it going to be dark there - he Lights his holy symbol -

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They should go through. Companions can handle difficult terrain just fine (a lot better than horses) and if they don't it sounds like they'll be cut off from communications entirely by the stupid shield that is SOMEHOW STILL UP, it must be covering a really huge area to have been far enough away from the explosion to stay intact. 

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Nayoki gets out a communication-spell order that they need reinforcements following them as soon as possible and can someone please tell Jisa to ABSOLUTELY STAY PUT and not go right back in there after Leareth just got her out. 

She needs them to be ready to cross very quickly to avoid her Gate being blasted when the gryphons see it, as soon as the Gate is up - 

 

- which is now. 

She dives through. 

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Through the Gate, then! 

It's indeed pretty dark, though the sky is clear enough for there to be some moonlight - a state unlikely to last for long with this many Gates around - and a lot of splintered remains of the spindly far-northern trees are on fire. 

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The Gate snaps down as soon as Vanyel is also through, and Nayoki reaches ahead with Thoughtsensing - if Leareth is unconscious and his Thoughtsensing talisman is intact, she might not be able to find him, but if it's damaged and she's looking very hard then hopefully she can... 

 

 

 

 

 

...find him. 

:- He is a hundred-some yards this way.: She's already in motion. :Buried under debris, I think, or trapped when the cave collapsed. Not responding to me.: 

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At which point they are divebombed by a pair of gryphons, who weren't quite fast enough to hit the Gate. 

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Nayoki could set-command them but she can't do that and wayfind to Leareth, the signature of his mind is very faint and it's taking all of her concentration to keep her fix on him - she's worried that he's weakening, he was clearly shielded enough to survive the explosion and cave-collapse but she's not sure he has air where he is - she's just going to keep moving, and trust Vanyel and Blai to handle defense. 

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Vanyel flings up a shield and the gryphons bounce off it. 

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And immediately come at them again! 

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Ah, they found a battle.

Prayer.

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They got a bit ahead of them while Vanyel was distracted holding off gryphons and now he's trying to move over uneven ground and hold a shield over all three of them and probably cannot do that and simultaneously hit two gryphons who, having bounced off again, are now now circling back to come at them from two directions and with more momentum. 

Blai has a weapon, though. 

(All of this is shared with Blai.) 

:Think you can take the one on the right if I tell Vanyel to get the one on the left?: Gryphons are very fast and have wickedly sharp beaks and claws, but Blai is wearing armor and apparently tougher than most humans. The gryphon will be shielded, but probably more against magical attacks than a mace to the face, maximum-power physical shields would interfere more with flight. 

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:I'd be more confident of it standing on my own feet but I think so.: It's way less intimidating than a glabrezu.

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(See? He has the BEST Herald.) 

:I won't let you fall.: 

Seldan passes the plan on to Vanyel, and prepares to stop moving for a moment. They've covered twenty yards or so. 

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Reasonable plan. 

Vanyel doesn't drop the shield, that would make the gryphons suspicious, but he'll plan on letting it come down after it's caught most of their momentum. 

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Gryphons dive. 

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Blai smashes one in the beak.

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Other gryphon gets an overpowered levinbolt that flings it back. It crashes into the ground a few seconds later, possibly dead, definitely at least unconscious. 

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Beak-smashed gryphon is not as badly off but it tumbles back and flaps dizzily and ungracefully a foot off the ground, trying to right itself before it comes at them again. 

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Which is plenty long for Vanyel to get it with a levinbolt over Blai's head. 

He puts the shield back over them and runs. 

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Seldan hurries to catch up with Nayoki. 

:- Once we get close enough, can you hit Leareth with a channel even if he's buried, or does it need line of sight?: They can probably dig him out but it sounds like they might be under attack the entire time. 

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:Line of effect.: Which is its own entire concept in Blai's head - visibility doesn't matter but barriers do, the channel won't helpfully go around rubble. Also if the gryphons are near enough and not dead it'd get them back up too, he can't do it selectively.

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All right. Then hopefully they can get close enough and - Vanyel is best placed among them to move a lot of heavy rocks quickly, which he can't do and shield them or fight gryphons at the same time, but Nayoki will be less distracted once she's no longer focused on directing them to Leareth, and should be able to just set-command incoming gryphons, which will incapacitate them in a way not fixable by Blai's healing. And they'll judge then whether they have time for Blai to get within touch range of Leareth once Vanyel has the rubble out of the way. 

They keep moving. 

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They're going to come under attack again by a better-coordinated group of five gryphons while still thirty yards short. 

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...All right, harder to divvy up in advance. 

Seldan pulls Vanyel into rapport as well, which does mean some unavoidable close contact with the unpleasantness of a broken Companion-bond, but Vanyel is mostly keeping a lid on it and it should let them coordinate in realtime. 

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Vanyel is startled but not so much that he loses the shield. The lead gryphon bounces off and circles back up, but he's worried - he, she, who knows, he can't tell with gryphons - might just be testing the strength of it. If they have a mage with them - 

 

- he can leave the shield up but without an active link to him, it'll go down under the first serious attack but should still slow them down, and then rather than waiting for the gryphons to dive all at once he can hit both of those two with a big enough fireball and they can figure it out from there - 

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If they've noticed Blai isn't a mage they could end up focusing on him, but Seldan can't see what to do about that, other than being as ready as possible, Blai really just has to hold them off long enough that Vanyel can hit them one at a time. 

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Two gryphons are now badly singed, not quite down but they're backing off and not flying very well.

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The others will all try to dive at once. They are, in fact, focusing on Blai, and the shield slows them a little before they crash through it but not very much. 

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Blai can take some hits and keep fighting; the claws honestly distract him less than trying to fight from horseback. He can only mace one gryphon at a time even when there's three of them but he can keep his attention on that. Swing. Swing. Swing.

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Seldan can be easier to fight from than an ordinary horse but there’s really no substituting for them having any experience fighting together.

One of the gryphons trying to come at Blai’s back is stupid enough to dodge under a Vanyel-fireball and come within Seldan’s kicking reach, though. That gryphon goes flying and is too disoriented to dodge the followup.

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Blai will take a few hits from the other two, but not on unarmored parts of him, and then Vanyel knocks first one and then the out of the sky. 

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It turns out that Blai getting hit by gryphons is REALLY UPSETTING and makes Seldan furious! Seldan is too focused on the rest of the fight to bother with selectively shielding that emotion to where Blai can’t see it - does Blai seem to be basically all right, though, that’s the important part - 

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Yeah, he has thirty-four hit points to lose, why is Seldan freaking out about a few claw gouges.

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Seldan is not freaking out, thank you very much. Seldan is just ticked off with the gryphons because they're being rude

 

They keep going. The rubble is pretty hot underfoot at this point, but Seldan is the one dealing with that and he's fine. 

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Nayoki stops a couple of meters short; she doesn't want to accidentally shift any debris and crush Leareth when he's made it this long and is still, if just barely, alive. She sends them all a mental sense of where to look and then, reluctantly, disengages her Thoughtsensing. She can't get debris moved nearly as quickly as Vanyel can. 

 

What she can do, however, is set-command anyone who dares to get within fifty yards of them. 

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Six gryphons at once find this out the hard way, and plummet out of the sky. 

 

(They're pretty badly injured by the fall, but will probably survive it if Blai does end channeling, and will still be unable to move.) 

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It would be faster to blast his way through but that would, uh, kill Leareth the rest of the way. Vanyel will grit his teeth and do it the slow careful way and start levering up broken rocks with carefully shaped cups of mage-energy and tossing them aside. 

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Seldan can help keep a lookout if Blai wants to help move rocks, he can't do as much as fast as Vanyel but it could still help. 

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Sure, Blai will get down and help shift rocks.

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They shift rubble. A few more gryphons try and go down and after that the rest stay out of sight. (Judging by the shrieks coming from out of the darkness, there are a few of them.) 

Vanyel shifts a slab of rock and - he's not as good at this as Nayoki, but he thinks now he can feel Leareth's mind. 

:Do you need all of him uncovered or just at least one body part - I think we're close -: 

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:A body part will do.:

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:All right.: Maybe if he gets this one... 

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There are some humans on the ground trying to approach. Nayoki set-commands them well before they can even get into sight. 

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And then one of them - doesn't stop -

 

- a tall figure with waist-length white hair walks into the circle of light from Blai's holy symbol, and Nayoki's third attempt at a set-command seems to bounce off entirely, just like the others. 

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:Problem: Nayoki snaps to all three of them. 

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Vanyel doesn't stop trying to lift the slab of stone - he's using his Gifts, not his hands - but he stands up. 

:Brightstar, please stop. It's me - I'm not dead, it was a trick -: 

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:You are not my father.: No expression at all in the young man's mindvoice. :My father would never work with Leareth.: He takes another step toward them. 

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Well this is not going great does Blai have ideas. 

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"Problem" isn't a very specific sitrep. He doesn't know what Nayoki tried, or even that she tried anything.

"Brightstar" is better. He has some context on Brightstar.

Brightstar himself, somehow, is the most helpful person in the room as regards Blai choosing a reaction.

"Qualm," he says.

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Brightstar stops moving. He gets a very odd expression on his face. 

 

:The Death Bell rang for Vanyel: he says after a long moment, almost plaintively. 

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:I know.: Tired, gentle. :It was - something wrong with the Web.: Saying the Star-Eyed Goddess did it might do the opposite of help. 

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Seldan is still trying to pull a sense from Blai's mind of what that spell does and, in particular, how long they should expect it to work and whether they'll have much warning if it stops working. 

(He's also still processing that Brightstar can apparently block Mindhealing set-commands. Seldan had genuinely not known that was possible - ugh, probably Jisa figured it out because she's a prodigy and then taught him because she's a naive kid and he's her brother - incidentally, the part where Vanyel is both of their father is a STATE SECRET, though all the Companions know and it's one of the first facts he learned about Jisa...) 

It does seem like the spell helped with plan: Vanyel keeps Brightstar talking, but - is there anything Blai can do if he decides he's done talking and just - calls a Final Strike, right here and now? Because Seldan can't think of anything that the rest of them can do, short of Gating out and abandoning Leareth, which isn't an option. 

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It'll last five, maybe five and a half minutes, if Brightstar keeps trying to do things, and he will be worse at things. When he stops and reassesses it'll discharge. It could happen any moment, he looks like he's stopping and reassessing - but sometimes a few seconds to really think is all you need to permanently think better of your course. He's got a Forbid Action ready, probably the right thing to aim it at is 'using magic', exploding is a kind of using magic. Why do scores of horses know a state secret, that's not a secret, that's a horse conspiracy.

Forbid Action lasts only a round. If they can't get around the shields to let Nayoki do something more thorough, they're going to have to physically beat him unconscious within the first six seconds after the spell goes off and drag him out of channel range.

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(Does Blai have any idea how many fucking horse conspiracies there are in Haven. It's surprisingly possible for Companions to keep secrets from their Heralds but apparently impossible for them to keep secrets from each other. He had no idea when he was a human Herald just how much of every day the Companions spend on gossip.) 

 

...If Blai can forbid him from using any magic, even just for six seconds, that - might or might not cause him to stop shielding, but at the very least he won't be able to do anything to stop Nayoki from shredding them and then set-commanding him, and she can probably do that within six seconds more easily than they can beat him unconscious. 

Vanyel seems to have switched to private Mindspeech with Brightstar, and it would certainly be nice if this was enough to get him to reassess his course of action at least as far as "not Final Striking with Vanyel literally right there" but Seldan is not sure they can afford to count on that, it seems dangerously possible that even if he does start to reconsider the Star-Eyed Goddess might be able to directly possess him, that's not common but there are legends and clearly She cares a really absurd amount about killing Leareth. And also Leareth is still injured and under debris and might be dying and right now Vanyel is no longer making progress on unburying him.

(All of this goes by in less than a second at the speed of thought.) 

 

- they should do it. On Nayoki's mark, so she's ready to take down Brightstar's shields within six seconds. 

He pulls Nayoki into rapport as well and wordlessly shoves the plan at her. :Go?: 

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A very brief pause while she absorbs that. 

:- I am ready.: 

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Well he doesn't love attacking the guy during the middle of what might reasonably be understood as a parley but the guy CAN EXPLODE and might be POSSESSABLE by a god with NO respect for the concept of intervention budget, so.

"Forbid Action."

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Brightstar stumbles as Nayoki follows up with a strike at his shields, and - presumably as a result of unexpectedly not being able to do anything with magic - yells and tries to run at Blai. 

He hasn't actually shaken off the Qualm yet, and he promptly trips on some of the dimly-lit rubble and falls on his face. 

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Nayoki has half of Brightstar's shields down within four seconds, including the one against Mindhealing, and then he's set-commanded and he stays down. 

 

(Nayoki has a wicked headache at this point and she's really hoping she doesn't have to hold off too many other people that way - Vanyel should hurry up–) 

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Vanyel is finding himself genuinely pretty upset at having his attempt at talking to Brightstar interrupted that way! 

...and now is absolutely not the time to dwell on it. He goes back to trying to heave up that particularly large slab, probably Leareth is under it - 

 

 

:- Got him: 

This part is also pretty upsetting! It's good that Blai has spectacularly impressive healing magic because they don't have any regular Healers with them - maybe reinforcements are catching up but they might be having their own gryphon problems or White Winds problems outside Nayoki's set-command radius - and Leareth's injuries do not look that survivable. It's remarkable he's still alive after what must be five minutes trapped under there. 

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There shouldn't be any enemies in a thirty-foot radius who are merely injured and not also set-commanded not to be able to move. 

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Thank you, Seldan. He double-checks the line of effect and channels.

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Leareth wakes up unable to move; most of his body is still pinned. He's completely uninjured, but the debris is still really hot and he's still completely unshielded so this state of affairs doesn't even last a second. 

Within a couple of seconds, though, and only mildly scorched, he manages to concentrate enough to, one, SHIELD HIMSELF at least haphazardly against further physical or magical attacks and, two, blast his way free of the remaining rubble. 

- what's happening, there was - earthquake, Jisa, then a discontinuity, clearly something went wrong - 

He will try to read every unshielded mind nearby, which is mostly just Brightstar (set-commanded and lying in a state of confused miserable panic) and Blai. 

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He doesn't have another channel so they need to haul him out of there and then he can drop the Comp. Lang. for a Cure Light. That rock looks small enough to move. What if Brightstar's set-command doesn't hold. What if there really was a serious parley negotiation happening there and he jumped too early, he needs to get on the same page with Seldan about that kind of thing, maybe they should have read more of the Acts instead of playing all that chess. What if there is another earthquake. What if he casts the prophecy and it reveals some heinous emergency they need to deal with while he's low on spells. What if there are more gryphons coming and they claw Seldan and he runs out of healing, he doesn't have a Breath of Life scroll yet. Leareth had better not die and strand Blai on this planet where you can't buy a Breath of Life scroll. Haul haul haul. Why are all these rocks so hot, is that a normal earthquake thing.

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All right, he's - standing up is hard, Leareth is dizzy - probably from soaking up way too much heat while attempting to use magic heavily and not able to breathe that well for a few seconds, he's in some pain but he thinks it's fine...

Nayoki is there, that's good. 

:Gate out?: 

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Can someone who has not just set-commanded a couple dozen minds in quick succession Gate out. Nayoki is not sure she can. 

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:I need a door, I can't–: Helpless look around at nothing but broken rocks. :We should get Brightstar.: 

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Leareth can Gate out. He's - pretty sure everyone else who was anywhere near him is dead, or he would have been able to feel other minds in range - the caves extend a long way, if any of the kyree are still alive he's not managing to reach far enough with Thoughtsensing to find them - he should not stand here and spend any longer trying, he needs to not be here and then he can...catch his breath, and figure out what's happening...

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:Get Brightstar if you want but we are not waiting for you:

She's scraping enough strength together to shield them, a set-command won't help if anyone can hit Leareth's Gate with a levinbolt from more than fifty years away. She does not want that Gate up for more than three seconds. 

Blai and Seldan are coming with, right? Vanyel has apparently decided to take his chances here rather than leave Brightstar, which is probably valid - they can send in another party to get him soon, probably, or maybe some of the backup will get to them eventually, but either way Leareth needs to not be here and so they are not waiting for Vanyel to pick up the teenager and haul him over here. 

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It's not the tidiest-looking Gate he's ever managed, it's wavering a bit around the edges, but it goes up - big enough for a Companion - and Leareth stumbles through. 

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...you cannot leave a helplessly enchanted man who you might have interrupted mid-parley in a hot barely breathable environment unless you have a much better reason to be in a hurry. Blai is going to help Vanyel with Brightstar.

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This is honestly kind of a relief because for a moment there Leareth was wavering on the other side of his Gate like he might be considering trying to hold it longer rather than leave Vanyel there alone, and it’s in fact not ideal for Vanyel to be there alone with Brightstar but also Leareth should not do that! And this way she gets very little argument from him when she snaps at him in Mindspeech to take the bloody Gate down now. They’ll send more people in to pick up Vanyel as soon as she can get someone in here to pull a Gate-location out of her head.

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Leareth takes the Gate down, takes one step toward the wall as though to lean against it, and then seems to give up and settle for crumpling to the floor instead - he’s behind shields, it’s safe now, stupid to keep wasting energy on standing…

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Well now Nayoki is alarmed! 

At least Leareth managed to get them back to the Gate-terminus room in the main base the two of them work out of, rather than instinctively going for some random records cache. She can go to him and Mindspeak for help without having to push her range. 

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See? Blai is such a Herald already! 

(Seldan thinks it's a reasonable call but he hadn't been inclined to push one way or another. Blai is the one who'll have to bear the brunt of fighting off any additional gryphons while low on spells and without Nayoki there to handle them before they're even in sight. He's very proud of Blai and any alarm he might be feeling about Blai's safety can go behind his shields where it won't be a distraction.)

Really he's not sure how many more gryphons there can possibly be, it feels like between them their party took down a lot of gryphons. They just need to get to Vanyel, make sure no one manages to attack him while he's too distracted to notice in time, and find some downed trees or something to make Vanyel a door-shape to put a Gate on since he doesn't know the unscaffolded-Gate technique. Or maybe they won't even have to because Leareth's people will get there as backup - some of them must be out there, Nayoki had send out an order before they Gated here, and he was too busy to notice additional Gates at the time but now he can look for other minds.

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Vanyel reaches Brightstar, manages to roll him over so he's at least face-up, and then runs into the problem that Brightstar is significantly taller than him and there's absolutely no way he can lift him alone. 

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Well, he's not alone, though Blai is not sure where they are lifting him to.

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They should put him over Seldan, and then they'll be able to move more easily in search of trees in case that's a faster way to a Gate out of here than waiting for purported reinforcements from Leareth's people - 

 

- the communications-barrier is abruptly down, so it seems that finding whoever was casting it is what some of the reinforcements Nayoki called for were handling. Seldan doesn't really have Mindspeech range to Haven from here, but he can reach Waymeet and do his very best to impress on all the Companions in range that they need to communicate to Haven immediately what happened here. Especially the part where Jisa was nearly killed in an unsanctioned attack on a location their allies (well, Stef's allies, but same difference) had offered as a safe base for both Jisa and Leareth, who all the Heralds and Companions should now know isn't their real enemy here. They don't really need the message that Jisa is fine, they would know if it were otherwise because of Treven, but Jisa is fine. A lot of the kyree aren't, though. 

...actually while they're still here he should look for minds still alive under the debris, he's pretty sure no one else close to Leareth's location survived but maybe further out, it sounds like the cave system was extensive... 

 

He's scanning and finds a group of people who seem to have trapped a trio of very angry gryphons in three different midair spherical force-barriers, so that's presumably Leareth's people - though he's going to ask them politely to let him briefly read them so he can confirm, they're all responsibly properly shielded - anyway that would explain why they're not, in fact, having a gryphon problem...

...seriously he remembers navigating over a bunch of the spindly fallen trees, why are none of them nearby now that he wants them - not actually a mystery, this is where the fireball from the weapon or whatever was hottest, they're probably all burned... 

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They're not going to have to wait that long, because Nayoki has managed to send some additional reinforcements to fetch them! (To a completely different northern base a hundred miles away from the one where she is with Leareth, it's stupid to bring Brightstar near Leareth again.) 

The mage holding the Gate has orders to let the Companion read his mind to confirm that Nayoki in fact sent them. 

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...They seem legitimate. Through the Gate, then. 

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Vanyel is starting to hit a point where it feels like thoughts aren't properly happening anymore. Crossing a Gate doesn't require thoughts, though.

He's bizarrely miserable about the prospect of keeping Brightstar prisoner but at least he'll be safe. 

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Blai is not sure how to ride a horse bareback while there is also a helpless additional person slung across his back, so he walks beside Seldan through the gate.

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The Gate goes down behind them. 

 

It's...over, then...? 

Vanyel probably still needs to...do things...but the doing things is not so much working. Yfandes is how he normally solves the adrenaline-comedown problem notthinkingaboutit. 

He stands there stupidly.

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Vanyel seems to be having a bad time, probably related to Yfandes being dead.

That's not incredibly surprising but it's inconvenient, as it leaves Seldan (a very experienced Herald in some senses, but still quite short on local context) here, now out of Mindspeech range of Waymeet as well (it might or might not be less than three hundred miles but mountains are in the way now) and unable to cast comms-spells himself, and accompanied only by his (excellent!!! but inexperienced-with-Valdemaran-affairs) Herald. 

...They should get Brightstar down. Seldan will Mindspeak the mage who brought them here to ask where they can put him so he'll be comfortable, and make sure that Nayoki knows where they are. And find out if Leareth is all right and whether they need to go immediately do more healing. Leaving a set-commanded Brightstar alone with a nonfunctional Vanyel (well, not alone but Vanyel is the only person here who isn't a stranger) isn't ideal but - 

- oh, what they should do is they should get Jisa here. She can figure out if it's safe to have Brightstar under something less restrictive than a set-command against taking actions in full generality - maybe now that they're not horribly rushed and Brightstar is incapable of shielding against Mindhealing, she can just block his Gifts - and also Brightstar knows her. They should really try to talk to him but Seldan is not sure if he or Blai are particularly well placed for that. 

 

It's possible this isn't over, though surely at some point the Star-Eyed Goddess will run out of things to try. But plausibly they should still have Blai try to find a way to use the prophecy spell tonight. ("Tonight." It can't be that many more candlemarks until dawn, at this point.) 

- does Blai think he's forgetting any considerations? 

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...three hundred miles of range is way less impressive if it's interrupted by mountains. Lots of three hundred mile stretches of land have mountains in them somewhere. Though it does still work for the idea of running comms across the Inner Sea.

He doesn't have to cast the prophecy on Leareth. He could cast it on Brightstar, if they think Brightstar is the principal agent of the Star-Eyed they have to worry about and further developments would go through him.

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...That does seem like it could be very valuable to know. If the Star-Eyed has given up on Brightstar as no longer a useful agent for Her plans, then - Brightstar is making his own decisions from here, he's safe for Vanyel and Jisa to be near, and they can try to talk him around. If the Star-Eyed can still possess him - and maybe work around Gift-blocks, though if She could ignore a set-command you would really think She would have done it ten minutes minutes ago - then it's not incredibly clear what to do but talking to him probably won't work and it's possible Jisa shouldn't risk being near him at all. 

And if they also want a prophecy on Leareth to try to head off any other assassination attempts - the Star-Eyed might be done but Vkandis could still have ideas - then it's not like it's that long to wait for Blai to have tomorrow's spells. 

(Seldan is hoping that things will stop happening soon, at least for long enough that they can get a little sleep.) 

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Sleep would be great, he usually doesn't start having flashbacks after only one all-nighter but it's kind of pushing it. What does Vanyel think of prophesying Brightstar?

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It's at least worth trying to see if Vanyel can pull himself together to answer a direct question. 

:Vanyel, Blai is considering casting the prophecy spell on Brightstar. What do you think?: 

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 Someone is asking him a question? Argh that's not fair there have been enough things Vanyel rubs his eyes with both hands and tries to focus enough to actually process what the question was

...The first thing that occurs to him once he tries to think is that obviously they need to question Brightstar, to find out some of the details of the attack and its planning - was Brightstar the ringleader, how did they know where Leareth was, does Iftel on its own have any way to find Leareth north of the mountains, does anyone else know where Leareth's immortality setup is in the Void - and this feels like an immediate punishment for his attempt at thinking, because having to interrogate Brightstar sounds agonizing. 

 

It...does...seem like it would be very good to know if the thing Blai sees is "Brightstar escaping" or "Brightstar being directly possessed by the Star-Eyed Goddess" in case there are measures they can take to reduce that risk (at the very least it probably reduces the risk of possession if they keep him unconscious, and never mind that this is a horrifyingly upsetting thought.) And if it doesn't, if it shows Brightstar not escaped and talking to them, then that would imply it's safe to keep him under less restrictive mind control to let him talk. 

Putting all of that into proper words sounds too hard so he just shoves it at Seldan. 

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Seldan does not have to share all of the current contents of Vanyel's head with Blai as well, just that Vanyel agrees it seems reasonable. 

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"Minor Prophecy."

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Brightstar is in a bare-walled shielded room, sitting huddled with his back against the wall, knees hugged to his chest. He's clearly been crying.

The door of the room opens and a girl comes in. She's about the same age, someone Blai hasn't seen before. She's small and thin, her hair dyed in an odd streaky brown-and-green camouflage pattern, but her features resemble Brightstar's. Her eyes are puffy and reddened as well, with dark circles under them. 

Brightstar lifts his head and does not otherwise really react. 

     "I came as soon as I could," she's saying. "I - I would have come sooner - Brightstar, I wish..." 

Brightstar shakes his head, helplessly, and says something too unclear to understand. 

    The girl goes to him. Puts her arms around him. After what seems like a long time of just holding him in silence, "...Father says the other world has magic. That - could bring them back." 

Brightstar shakes his head and does not seem particularly able to process this. 

     The girl doesn't say anything else. 

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Well, that's pleasantly low-key. He doesn't know who the girl is but perhaps a member of the horse conspiracy Companion will recognize her from Seldan's thoughts once they return to Haven. Vanyel doesn't really look like he was listening.

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Yeah Seldan has no idea either. Looks like a relative - in particular, she looks Tayledras - but he wasn't aware of Brightstar having relatives who weren't in k'Treva at the time that the thing happened. Vanyel indeed doesn't seem to be listening and, given that this is apparently the most exciting thing to happen to Brightstar in the next few days, it's not going to be a disaster to wait on figuring it out either until they're back in contact with Haven or Vanyel is in better shape. 

Right. Order of operations from here: convey to nearby Leareth-organization-staff that Brightstar is probably not going to present a danger tonight, he's already doing that. Get Jisa over here, which again he will need to delegate since he hasn't got the faintest idea where Jisa is relative to them and neither he nor Blai can Gate. Ask about having someone mindread him to find out relevant information like whether he told anyone else how to destroy Leareth's immortality; maybe Jisa can do that, Vanyel does not seem super up for it. Find out if Leareth needs more Healing. Get communications with Haven back up, though he's inclined to delegate that entirely and have Leareth send someone to Waymeet who can ask for a Gate the rest of the way, probably that won't be a disaster given that everyone not willing to listen to the Heralds' orders seems to have left Waymeet to go carry out an unsanctioned attack on the kyree caves. Leareth's people can probably also do something about making sure all the set-commanded gryphons don't freeze to death out there, assuming their own people haven't already tried to evacuate them. 

...Most of those things don't need Blai. Find out if Leareth needs Healing, then Blai can get some sleep until dawn, get spells, probably cast another prophecy on Leareth to check if there are going to be more disasters? 

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Someone should collect kyree bodies, not urgently unless there's a risk of scavengers or fire but it should be flagged as a to-do. The kyree were nothing but helpful and some of them are probably dead and someone might want to save up to get them back.

Blai can sit up a bit waiting to hear if he's supposed to Gate somewhere and do Cures.

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Some of the kyree are definitely dead, he'll pass that along as well; most of them will be buried under rubble, if they were in the caves when they collapsed, and they'll be nontrivial to find but it does make scavengers less of a problem. The Bard apparently has some amount of influence with the King and will absolutely want his friends brought back if it's at all possible, so maybe Valdemar can end up putting some resources toward that. 

(Someone of them weren't dead yet and hopefully Leareth's people can find them and dig them out in time, but Seldan is pretty unconflicted on the fact that it wasn't worth them sticking around on the battlefield for that.) 

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If Blai had another channel he might disagree with that but he has three convertible spells left so the return on his hanging around would not be amazing.

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Word back from Nayoki within three minutes of Seldan asking someone to comms-spell her: Leareth isn't in great shape. They've got their own Healers there, whose report is that he has superficial burns but most of what's wrong with him is basically heatstroke, which maybe the channel couldn't help with while he was still mostly buried in very hot debris. He'll be okay in a day or two either way, but if it's not especially costly for Blai to help, his spells are definitely a lot faster than Velgarth Healing. 

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He might actually need an Endure Elements more than another Cure, if he has heatstroke. Blai can prep some at dawn. If they want to gate him over for a quick Cure he can do that, he's unsure how that trades off against various security and logistics constraints. If they don't -

Sleep now?

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It does not seem like enough of an emergency to justify Gating Blai over. (Especially when they still haven't determined to their satisfaction that Brightstar isn't somehow goddess-boobytrapped. The report that reached Nayoki on Blai's prophecy vision is somewhat reassuring but she's not inclined to put all her faith on that.) Blai should get some sleep. 

Seldan will not fit into any of the actual sleeping quarters at this site, which in any case would require navigating stairs to get to, but someone can lead them to a room that does not contain Brightstar and can, shortly, contain a mattress for Blai and some straw for Seldan. 

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It's kinda weird that Endure Elements would work retroactively, in the sense that presumably Leareth is now in a normal-temperature room and it's just that it takes people a while to recover from heatstroke. Neat, though. 

Seldan is glad that Leareth's people understand his desire to stay right next to Blai at all times, and can ease himself down on the straw next to the mattress, at an angle such that Blai can use him as a pillow if he so wishes. 

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Blai doesn't have a lot of experience with heatstroke. It helps with some of the not-just-injury effects of being way too cold.

Seldan being a pillow sounds like a good plan to him.

Zzzzz.

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Today has been a pretty good day, all things considered! Seldan managed to free his Herald from being arrested by the other Heralds, convinced him to accept the bond, and helped him heroically rescue Vanyel's archmage nemesis-slash-friend from an assassination attempt. 

Also: he has the BEST Herald! He's pretty sure everyone thinks this because that's what the Companion-bond does, but he's still right.

He stays awake for a bit longer gloating about it, nuzzling Blai's hair without waking him, and gleefully harassing people all over the base in Mindspeech about various logistics. Groveborn-level Mindspeech is GREAT even if he apparently can't trivially get across mountains. 

(...He's going to check if that was in fact the issue, actually, by politely asking someone in another room to get a map and drop their shields enough that he can look through their eyes. - aha! His inability to reach Waymeet is in fact fully explained by the fact that they're at an incredibly remote spot, probably because Nayoki wanted them hundreds of miles away from Leareth just in case, and they're probably three hundred and fifty miles from Waymeet. He gets the person to point out important locations relative to them, like where the battle at the kyree caves happened and where Leareth is now, and memorizes the map to show Blai later so both of them can be better oriented.) 

 

...He should probably also try to get a little sleep. Seldan is pretty sure he remembers picking up from Blai that being a cleric means he'll automatically be woken once the spell-window starts at dawn, but just in case he'll ask someone to wake him five minutes ahead of local dawn so he can poke Blai if he's too deeply asleep to notice or something.

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Jisa would ALSO LIKE SLEEP at some point, but it does seem like Vanyel is not up for figuring out what Brightstar knows. She will accept a Gate over and try to talk to him. 

..."Talking" to him is probably not a good word for it, he's really - nonfunctional - even once she gets Nayoki's clearance to block his Gifts and then pick out the set-command. (It's a very well-done set-command but she thinks it's actually less stuck in there than hers can turn out if she's pushing it as hard as she can.) She doesn't think he's trying to be unhelpful, so much as - not processing her presence enough to really try anything - but she can at least determine that he didn't teach anyone else to visit the Void and find Leareth's backup, and that the Iftelis alone don't have a good way to locate Leareth. 

 

(Jisa is going to be very upset about several things as soon as she has time to stop moving, but it's a terrible time to have a breakdown over how she nearly got Leareth killed because she's an inexperienced kid who stupidly froze up just because an emergency happened while she was trying to take a dump. Delaying finding out about any other risks to Leareth because she's too upset about it would just make it worse, so she puts a lot of redirects on herself about it and keeps going.) 

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Vanyel is persuaded to try to get some sleep. He doesn't really feel like sleep is going to work - he hasn't actually slept since Yfandes' death - but he's exhausted enough that he's out within about three seconds of lying down and closing his eyes. 

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Dawn arrives with no further emergencies. 

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Blai wakes up. He is very cozy. He has a little bit of grace period to find the chamber pot and then he flops back down on Seldan to hold his sword-and-sun and tell Iomedae what's up. There is such a lot of stuff up, Iomedae, but hopefully less of it going forward. Thank you for not being mad about the magic horse. Sorry for even suspecting that You might be mad about the magic horse.

Nap Stack. Sleep deprivation is a very powerful tool for everything being fucked up and the folks in Haven need a counter and apparently, somehow, they have a very expensive pillow, already, though he'll need to inspect it to see if it'll work or if they need to sew more beads on real quick.

Endure Elements, two of those. Another Forbid Action because while it's not a popular choice and he mostly likes it because it's similar to his old domain power, it's apparently pretty useful combined with local Gifts in circumstances he certainly hopes they won't be repeating. And a Gentle Repose since they might get Yfandes's body somewhere he can cast on it today.

Another Minor Prophecy, another two Lesser Restorations for the King, another Owl's.

Guidance, Create Water, Light... either Stabilize or Detect Magic... he's leaning Stabilize.

Does that look like a good slate of spells to Seldan (why is Seldan already awake anyway), did he forget anything -

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Groveborn don't need a lot of sleep (he could sleep a normal human amount and enjoy it but he won't suffer much for the lack) and Seldan is looking forward to watching Blai prepare spells, it seems fascinating. 

Stabilize sounds like a better choice! They're likely to mostly be around mages, who have mage-sight which seems like a strictly better version (and in fact Seldan thinks he has something mage-sight-like and just doesn't have the instincts for using it because Velgarth magic isn't convenient that way), whereas - brief poke in Blai's memories for context - Stabilize apparently does something that Velgarth Healers might only be able to do with great difficulty, or not at all, depending what someone is dying of. 

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Stabilize it is (though it doesn't work on everything, like, a poison that affects Endurance can still super kill you even if someone's standing over you casting every six seconds). He is filling out the hour of prayer by attempting to sort of introduce Iomedae to Seldan even though Iomedae is not going to respond to this in any way. Also he's assuming he should get non-Iomedaeans for the scrolls and castings he needs and he'll probably go to Abadarans about it, but he plans to stop by the church of Iomedae in Westcrown, assuming there is one now, to give a report about All This Nonsense, so that is where any nudges should accumulate if he should do something nondefault. Amen.

Anything happen overnight? How are they arranging to meet Leareth for healing and an EE and a prophecy, and then how are they getting back to Haven to give everyone a nap?

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"Overnight" was, like, two and a half candlemarks (can Blai also nap later with the Nap Stack spell?) but Seldan has gathered some reports! 

They're in contact with Waymeet, and Haven indirectly; Leareth sent in someone un-Gifted with one of the messenger-bird mage-constructs to ride in from five miles out rather than scare people with a Gate directly there, and then the Heralds in Waymeet eventually agreed to Leareth bringing in a couple of mages who can rotate comms-spell duty.

Jisa read Brightstar's mind and determined that, while he did have time to go and sabotage Leareth's immortality backup hard enough that he would have died permanently if they'd managed to kill him on the battlefield, he didn't tell anyone else how to find it and even if Iftel wanted to send another attack, without Brightstar they have no way to locate Leareth. It's not impossible Vkandis has enough forces still in Iftel to send a bunch of them north at semi-random anyway, but Leareth has dozens of bases across hundreds of miles, not to mentions underground records rooms scattered around the rest of the continent, he should be able to stay ahead of them for the week or so that Jisa think it would take him to repair the damage.

(As an aside, Jisa guessed that the girl in Blai's vision was the sister Brightstar apparently has, whose name is Featherfire and who lives in Highjorune, formerly a small kingdom that existed even in Seldan's time, apparently annexed by Valdemar in the last decade. This has got to be a really unpredecented rate of annexations, Valdemar also expanded north to Waymeet and west all the way to Lake Evendim in the last decade, doubling their effective population in the process.) 

Nayoki wants to transport them to Leareth in two hops just in case the Star-Eyed Goddess can still work through Brightstar somehow, even though the earlier Minor Prophecy implies She probably can't. Arrangements for that are ready when Blai is. 

After that, they can get a Gate back south from Leareth's people, probably directly to Waymeet, and get another Gate from there to Haven. Poor weather-mages, lots of work to do. (Seldan isn't actually feeling apologetic.) 

There are apparently also some surviving injured and set-commanded gryphons - ones that fell out of the sky outside of Blai's channel radius before - as well as some injured kyree who were dug out of the rubble, now transported to Waymeet. (Plus some miscellaneous injuries related to, of all things, several bar fights that apparently broke out amongst all the troops who were suddenly left at loose ends in Waymeet once the Heralds sent the order to stand down the war preparations.) They can probably all be fit into a channel radius, if Blai would like Seldan to send word ahead for them to arrange that. 

Vanyel is probably coming back to Haven with them but Jisa will stay up north with Brightstar. She thinks that under no conditions should they bring Brightstar back within the Web. 

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Blai will be able to nap in the Nap Stack, yes. His sleep schedule will be all over the place but it kind of is already.

Blai would very much like to heal the surviving kyree and let them know that there are resurrections to be had once they can get clerics from Golarion. He is not quite so enthusiastic about the gryphons but if it's judged safe and they'll fit in the same radius he'll do it.

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They'll still be set-commanded - this is confirmed, some of them were in the thirty-foot channel radius on the scene and were healed but not un-set-commanded - so it's not particularly a security risk. Ethically speaking, Seldan's feeling is that it's not like it's really their fault they were born in a country cut off from the rest of the world by a giant magical barrier and ruled by a god that sucks. ...They do take up more space than humans, though. He'll request that they be last in the priority order if there's not enough room to cram everyone in. 

 

- the person he Mindspoke about a Gate is asking if Blai needs breakfast before they go? 

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It's not anyone's fault that they were born in a country ruled by a god that sucks! It just affects how useful they are to direct resources towards on a spectrum from "great investment" through "active resource sink".

Yes now that Seldan mentions it Blai would benefit from breakfast. Do Companions... eat... does Seldan need breakfast.

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Companions eat! Seldan can manage until they get to Haven if it's more inconvenient to feed a horse here, though. Honestly, the thing bothering Seldan more is that apparently Companions get itchy if they do a lot of exertion somewhere hot and end up sweating and then are not brushed afterward. This is absolutely not urgent but it would sure be nice if there ends up being time later today when Blai has nothing more urgent to do than go over him with a curry-comb. 

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Someone will bring breakfast for Blai - eggs and toast and stewed beans - and a bucket of oats for Seldan, if he can eat that? 

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It'll do. 

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Blai can probably Prestidigitate a comb though it might suck because of being Prestidigitated. If that would be better than nothing he can work on it while he eats.

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(BEST Herald!!!) 

It's probably worse than a real comb designed for horses but Seldan doesn't actually have that baseline of comparison, having been a Companion for less than a full day and night at this point, and he does think it's better than nothing. 

Once they're done eating they can go through a couple of Gates to get to Leareth. 

 

(If Blai ends up worrying - on the level of things more like "what if Iomedae hates Companions" than "what if there are more gryphons", some worrying is in fact productive - then Seldan will throw mental chess at him, but they're not going to be waiting that long between the two Gates.) 

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Blai is a little worried about more gryphons and also about whether Iomedae is going to have to try to do diplomacy with all these local gods while broke. He's not sure if it affects theopolitics that She's out of intervention budget but it would be sort of weird if it didn't affect it at all. Maybe he should pray to some of Her allies. He is not really sure who else is relevant, Iomedae has the excellent property of being relevant at all times because all things should be better than they currently are and that's Her thing, but like what is Erastil going to even care about, here. ...Shelyn please take care of Yfandes's body so that we can get her resurrected for Vanyel. That seems like a suitable Shelyn prayer. Abadar there is going to be interplanetary trade please help everything settle out here appropriately for that to go off without a hitch. Sarenrae, there is some room for some gods to improve as people, if that's Your thing. Amen.

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(That seems like productive degree of thinking about potential future challenges rather than, uh, whatever you call the thing Blai's brain is sometimes doing at other times! Seldan does not try to interrupt with chess.) 

...It would be very neat if gods improving as people is a thing that could happen. That seems like the best possible resolution here, really. 

 

They can finish eating and go through two Gates in a row to reach the other base where Leareth is. 

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Leareth is vaguely aware that he's been moved to a room with a bed in it and that Nayoki is there. And keeps reassuring him that he's not dying. He didn't think he was dying but he does feel impressively terrible. 

He's mostly been lying there frustrated that he can't think. It's not even that much that he's in pain - the headache is bad but being mildly scorched barely registers - but even apart from that, it feels like he has to push all his thoughts through glue. He doesn't really subjectively feel too hot anymore - at one point someone put cold wet towels all over him - he just still feels the wrong temperature, wrong in what direction is unspecified. 

He will still try to open his eyes and sit up when he hears someone coming in. 

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:Hello, I'm here to try Endure Elements on your heatstroke if you're ready.:

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(Leareth does not look like he's necessarily up for receptive Thoughtsensing to pick up on Blai - who is not a Mindspeaker himself - trying to think loud surface thoughts at him, so he'll bounce it.) 

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Leareth doesn't know what Endure Elements is and so is having some trouble even getting that sentence to parse. He looks at Nayoki. 

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She nods. 

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:All right. ...Thank you.: 

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:You're welcome.: "Endure Elements."

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Leareth is now the correct temperature! It clearly isn't fixing anything else but it's kind of remarkable how much better he can think now that he's no longer intensely experiencing being the wrong temperature in an unspecified direction! 

He immediately looks somewhat more alert. :- I think that did help.: 

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(Is also doing a healing spell going to trade off against other spells that could be important later in Haven? Leareth looks like he could still benefit from it but not like it’s definitely necessary for him to function today.)

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Blai can burn one of the other first circle spells for it; he has his coat so probably he won't need an Endure himself, or maybe he doesn't need the Forbid Action?

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:You cast Endure Elements yesterday - it was just after dark, in Haven - if it lasts until the same time the next day, I think you've got seven or eight candlemarks left on it.: He wasn't yet fully reading Blai's mind at the time, but did note him casting the spell, and had a chance later to get a little up to speed on the spells' constraints while Blai was thinking about them this morning. :And even if we end up outdoors for a long period, it's unlikely we'll be separated, so I can help keep you warm. ...I think it's probably worth giving up to have Leareth fully recovered today, in case he needs to respond to another emergency, but you should keep the Forbid Action.: It seems to go right through standard Velgarth shields - makes sense, no one could possibly have known to develop a shielding technique against it - so it's a pretty valuable last resort to have.

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Well, someone else who doesn't have a Worldwound coat might need it, but perhaps Seldan can also keep other people warm. (Though, to be clear, Forbid Action has a pretty easy save, a completely normal person will throw it off more than a quarter of the time.) And after another rigmarole about making sure he's ready, lest he spook this not-technically-Rahadoumi-but-sorta-similar archmage, he'll do the Cure.

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That's another instant huge improvement! It doesn't quite hit the hint of lingering backlash from Gating under conditions that were really not conducive to it, but that's nearly faded on its own by now. 

Leareth holds still long enough for the Healer hanging around to confirm that he’s back to perfect health, and then starts getting up. 

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:Prophecy, now?:

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If Leareth wants the prophecy now! Blai is trying to be really polite about telegraphing all his divine magic!

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Honestly Leareth doesn’t seem very spooked about Blai at this point! (He's hard to read but Seldan thinks he could pick up something if Leareth were stressed, especially earlier when he was visibly very groggy.) Probably has something to do with the part where Blai charged out onto a battlefield at considerable risk to himself and got clawed by gryphons for his efforts while saving Leareth's life. 

...Not unreasonable to be careful about it anyway, though, the man has got to be very jumpy in general. 

 

He addresses Leareth and Nayoki. :Blai prepared another prophecy spell, since we cast the one from yesterday on Brightstar. Do you want him to cast it now?: 

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:- I would appreciate that, yes.: 

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"Minor Prophecy."

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Leareth is in a room with Nayoki and someone is reaching out to both of them with an alarmed Mindspeech message. 

    :Haven - under attack -: 

Three seconds later Leareth has his own scrying-spell up. 

:Iftel: he sends, to Nayoki (it's faster than speaking out loud) and half a dozen people in other rooms. :Gates, gryphons - what are they - nevermind. Are Vanyel and Blai -: 

     :We do not know their exact locations:

Of course not. The Star-Eyed Goddess still has a Heartstone in Haven and it would go as unluckily as possible. :I could -:

     :You are not going in - Vanyel would understand, Blai would understand - you can find Golarion without them, they are stuck without you -:

:I know.: But Leareth is genuinely upset, to an extent that's actually kind of visible. It doesn't actually make sense to put himself at any risk when Vanyel and Blai went to huge lengths to keep the gods from assassinating him, and it's just - still - in the opposite situation they took that risk... 

:We should Gate reinforcements in, we cannot afford to wait for the Heralds to ask -:

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...Blai doesn't get much content from the conversation, just a sense of the - genre - but he can see the scry all right, in the vision, so anyone reading his mind can too.

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What. 

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What indeed. 

:I am confused about what they could possibly be trying to accomplish!: 

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:Taking out the Heralds who would otherwise ally with you? Or maybe they know enough about Blai to be trying to capture him.: 

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:It might make sense for them to be trying to disrupt your relationship with the Heralds, but as far as I can tell openly attacking Haven would do...the opposite...since I think at this point you would send help if we asked - er, consider this me communicating on behalf of the Heralds that if that happens, I think we need and want your help.: 

It's not, like, incredibly clear that Seldan formally has the authority to speak on behalf of the Heralds, but he really doesn't think the King will disagree once they have an opportunity to explain, though - it's abruptly seeming like it might be a worse idea to go to Haven and provide that explanation, the vision doesn't specify how long before this would happen. 

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:Weakening your organization, maybe, if they already predict you would step in to help Valdemar with defense -: 

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:Which would be more inconvenient if I were still planning to invade Valdemar with it - I am very confused -: Leareth is pretty sure he's missing something here and he doesn't like it. 

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:Can we ask the surviving gryphons, in case this was already under consideration as a plan and they were privy to it?:

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:That's a good idea - I mean, we might need them to be un-set-commanded to answer questions usefully, if Jisa's not coming then I don't know who can do it - I did hear there's a Valdemaran Mindhealer in Waymeet but I have no idea if taking out set-commands is in her skillset...: 

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Leareth is frowning very slightly. :I am wondering if we ought negotiate to send you to Haven with a team of mages from my organization - it would be better if the Herald-Mages were less thoroughly outnumbered by people who might decide they work for one of the unfriendly gods instead.: 

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:The Heralds should probably be kicking everyone out of Valdemar who isn't willing to confirm under Truth Spell that they're listening to Randi's orders and are not intending to go work for Vkandis. Though that still leaves them with exactly one able-bodied Adept-potential mage: As far as he knows the plan is still for Vanyel to join them but he's not entirely sure where Vanyel is right now, he didn't come through the Gate with them. Hopefully he's just still asleep. Anyway, Vanyel does...not really count as fully functional right now. 

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Nayoki would offer to go and set-command gryphons at fifty yards again if necessary, but she still has a backlash headache from the last round of that. 

:It is definitely better to know this than not, and - I think worth delaying to communicate more with our Herald contact in Waymeet and obtain permission to send some of our people in advance of when they are needed. ...I still wish I understood what they were aiming for - if the goal is to kidnap Blai, that implies different precautions than if they have just decided to try to conquer Valdemar for some reason.: 

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What a horrible messy diplomatic situation. Seldan is just trying to picture King Randale having a conversation where he informs whoever is representing Iftel in Haven that they're being kicked out because someone had a Foresight vision where Ifteli forces were attacking Haven. (Not to mention the part where they almost got his daughter killed, but he isn't sure Randi is going to want to spread it around that she was there at all, and they certainly couldn't have known she was there, so it wasn't exactly an operation against Valdemar.) 

And of course it raises questions about whether it's a good idea to have anyone else in Haven backing up the Heralds - probably the mercenaries aren't going to randomly go work for gods instead, gods don't pay in hard coin, but he's not sure of that...

...do Iomedae's teachings by chance have any useful advice on a situation like this. 

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Not that he can think of! The Shining Crusade had a lot of people from a lot of places interested in a common cause but it wasn't really in danger of suddenly deciding Tar-Baphon was okay after all!

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Mental sigh. :If we're lucky, it looked like a good idea in Foresight until we were all warned to expect it and now it won't. ...Though I notice that sentence had the words "if we're lucky" and I don't think we should assume we'll be lucky at any point in Haven, there's still a Heartstone there.: 

Taking the perspective of someone loyal to Vkandis or the Star-Eyed Goddess - who might reasonably not have expected Them to act this destructively, Seldan has no memory from his run as a Herald of thinking They were terrible in general - it's possible it does feel a bit like Valdemar suddenly and inexplicably deciding to ally with Tar-Baphon!

Seldan has the sense that Valdemar didn't exactly help matters there, in terms of how the Heralds presented the situation while they were rushing to get all their allies in place within less than a week. Of course, Leareth also didn't help matters by kidnapping Blai, in hindsight that was a serious mistake. Then again, at the time he must have thought the most parsimonious explanation was a single godplot and that Blai was used to destroy k'Treva, which - you know, if that had been true, Seldan can't say that getting the person in question out of Haven would be a mistake. So really it's just a mess all around. 

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:Maybe, but Foresight could be too noisy to tell, especially since we keep obtaining prophecies that would not be possible with Velgarth magic and changing our course of action as a result. If I thought the gods could reliably steer events precisely, right now, I would wonder if it was aimed at something indirect and specific - as with how Vanyel believed the attack on k'Treva was targeted to affect Brightstar's actions - but I expect that to be difficult given noise. It is possible this was - will be? was going to be - not directly steered by Vkandis much at all, and was mostly planned by Iftel's leadership for - human reasons.: 

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:If I were Valdemar's King, I think I would just inform Iftel's leadership directly that they know now and an invasion is doomed to fail.: Nayoki is aware that she's not a diplomat for good reasons, though. 

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Is the King even going to be in a position to do things after another couple Restorations. He looked really bad, he might need to be caught up on weeks or months of events with the most recent few days probably the densest. Is this the best time today to cast an Owl's Wisdom on somebody. What if he casts it and then needs it later. Would it make sense to tell everyone to make a habit of having all important conversations out loud and near clocks so they can be more easily interpreted in prophecy, the Acts are pretty nonspecific about which conversations might have been taking place over Telepathic Bond.

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Seldan's impression from Companion-gossip is that Randi has been doing a truly impressive amount of King-ing given his condition - like, he's not running Council meetings, Treven has been gradually taking over most of the work that would involve leaving his suite, but he had been managing a candlemark or two a day of being functional enough to take reports from Dara and advise Treven, and he's probably more or less up to speed. For awkward diplomatic meetings he would probably still suggest Treven, though, since ideally they would not be run next to Randi's bed and also the kid apparently has a real talent for it. 

It's possible Leareth could make more headway on figuring out what the goal of the Ifteli invasion was if he had an Owl's Wisdom, but it's also possible they're just missing too many pieces. And it would be frustrating to want it later and not have one. 

...He'll flag the point about conversations out loud to Nayoki and Leareth in case they weren't already reading Blai's mind. Though it would be pretty inconvenient, Mindspeech is good in an emergency even face-to-face because it's faster than speaking out loud and doesn't run into the same issue with people talking over each other. 

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Leareth will absolutely consider a policy of having important conversations out loud. 

 

He was also paying enough attention to Blai's thoughts to catch the thought about the Owl's Wisdom. For right now he's inclined to get in contact with Haven via Waymeet and negotiate sending Blai and Seldan (and Vanyel if he's still going) with a proper entourage, which he expects to take at least a candlemark. If after that he still feels like he's missing something that might be important for what precautions to take, he might want to try it. 

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How does the set-command work, why would it interfere with the gryphons understanding questions and being mindread about the answers? What are the capabilities of their entourage going to be, if they're not all Mindspeakers Blai should maybe learn a few words of the relevant language in advance in case things are busy enough Seldan can't translate everything. Is it possible to prevent Gates from being created in a location, like a Teleport Trap or something, to prevent the gryphon invasion. What is the state of comms with Iftel, how does Valdemar talk to them. What is Brightstar's status and is he getting transported anywhere. Is this level of Gating exceptional enough that they should be worried about really destructive weather events beyond blizzards, like hurricanes or tornadoes, or is the weather magic coverage sufficient to cope with that.

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(All of those are really reasonable things to flag and not unproductive worrying at all! Maybe Blai only does that when it's not a terrifying emergency and he's run out of emergency-level problems to try to anticipate and needs something for that mental muscle to do instead. Anyway, Seldan is fortunately very good at quickly cataloguing half a dozen different lines of thought and adding them to a mental notes-slate.) 

Seldan has never personally tried to question someone under a maximally restrictive set-command because, well, in his day there were two Mindhealers in the entire Kingdom of Valdemar and their job was, like, seeing patients with mental problems and not using Mindhealing offensively in combat. But he does seem to have retained some context on what set-commands do, for some reason, including the fact that depending on the person they are varying levels of impairing for having thoughts. Maybe Nayoki has relevant experience interrogating people who are impaired at having thoughts but he certainly doesn't, and it might cancel out the effects of a coercive Truth Spell if "answering questions" counts more as an action than just having thoughts. 

Probably everyone who comes with them should just be a Mindspeaker, he can't imagine Leareth has a shortage. Seldan has the attentional capacity of a Groveborn and can handle a dozen simultaneous conversations if he needs to, but Mindspeech is just incredibly useful in general. (He wasn't a strong Mindspeaker as a Herald; he's not sure but he thinks he might not have had any strong Gifts at all, not all Heralds do. He is LOVING his new capabilities.) Blai learning a few words of Valdemaran does seem generally useful but probably not a priority in the next candlemark unless he's really good at languages and can pick it up without too much repetition.

Brightstar is with Jisa and should probably not be transported anywhere. Based on Jisa's report, he's probably not going to cause any problems in the short run. 

He's never heard of excessive Gating causing a hurricane or tornado; this isn't the season for tornadoes anyway. Admittedly he's never encountered this many Gates being cast, but it might actually be less risky now that it's been several days and any weather systems ready to move in have already done so. 

Iftel has a representative in Haven whose staff are handling communications with Iftel proper, he thinks? This only came up in passing as part of the background Companion-gossip and he wasn't yet viewing it as something to actively gather information on, which he's irritated with himself about how. ...He does think the representative might be a high-ranking priest of Vkandis from Iftel's church, which is...possibly not great...

He has absolutely no idea if blocking Gates is possible! It doesn't seem like it should be possible but Leareth would be the one who knows. He'll bounce that question over, in case Leareth is less able to untangle it from all the other thoughts flashing by. 

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Blink.

:Blocking a Gate search-spell is possible but very difficult. The shielding can only be placed on a building, not a region, and I am the only one in my organization who can do it. It is generally cheaper to just work out of shielded rooms that no one knows the location of to Gate to.: 

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Blai speaks three languages, two of them just shy of mutual intelligibility (you can get all the way to "mutually intelligible" if both parties cooperatively choose formal archaic phrasings rather than allowing slang and Infernal loanwords and so on but that doesn't reflect how Chelish and Taldane are used in most situations). He's not amazing at it but Comprehend Languages will speed him up a lot if he prioritizes it which it sounds like he should not do very soon.

That Iftel envoy situation does sound possibly not great.

Sounds like that's a dead end on the preventing the invasion altogether, but maybe giving diplomacy a chance will work, the spell should have a range of nearly a week as cast by Blai so they might be looking at something that would have taken days to unfold yet.

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Seldan is hopeful about giving diplomacy a chance! Preparing to invade takes time, especially if you need a lot of well-rested mages and everyone lined up to run through Gates as quickly as possible, and they must have only just found out that the operation against Leareth failed. 

(...He's slightly disappointed that it's only just occurring to him now that they could have tried to pretend Leareth hadn't made it out, there was enough general confusion and he Gated out fast enough once he was up that the Iftelis might not have known otherwise. Plausibly it would not actually have helped anything for Iftel to believe Leareth was dead, but it's the sort of thing he would at least have remembered to consider if he were really on his game.) 

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Nayoki and Leareth look at each other and seem to probably be having a private Mindspeech conversation. 

Nayoki looks back at Seldan and Blai. :It sounds like there are some logistics to figure out before we send you to Waymeet, if you would like to get some rest in the meantime?: 

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He could probably nap if they don't need him for anything or want to ask him any more questions right now.

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Seldan is in favor of Blai grabbing a nap, you know, in case something horrible happens ten minutes after they reach Haven and prevents them from arranging the Nap Stack plan. Can they get a room with a mattress and straw in it again? 

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They can get that setup, sure. 

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Perfect! Seldan will arrange himself as a pillow and then he, too, will try to sleep as much as possible before they're interrupted again. 

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Zzz.

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Seldan will be the coziest of pillows. 

(Another thing he appreciates about his Herald: Blai has clearly mastered the art of "sleep when you have the chance" and is not at all inclined to lie awake fretting, even when the situation ahead is fairly nervewracking. That's a skill that takes teenagers quite a long time to learn.) 

...Seldan is also going to work on the skill of sleeping when he can rather than lying awake making lists in his head of all the ways Blai is great. Zzzzzzz. 

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And Nayoki wakes them a candlemark and a bit later. 

They have signoff from the Heralds on sending Blai and Vanyel in with an entourage of two dozen mages. It's not enough people to hold off an army, but it should be more than sufficient to get Blai and Vanyel out of Haven in a hurry if that seems warranted, and they'll have people trading off on comms-spell duty be able to stay in constant direct contact with Leareth in the north. Nayoki herself is volunteering to accompany them as far as Waymeet and then stay there to mindread set-commanded gryphons, which will in fact be easier to do if Blai can heal them first. 

Word from Haven is that the Ifteli priest there had already arranged to return to Iftel early this morning, which might or might not have ominous implications for when Iftel decided to plan an offensive against Valdemar, but probably means they can be less worried about some kind of direct miraculous intervention. 

The Heralds do think it's valuable for Blai to be back in Haven, particularly for him to heal the King as soon as possible but also they had another night of a lot of people losing sleep and would be enormously better off if everyone were, instead, rested. Nayoki thinks it's moderately likely that they have additional requests of Blai (or Vanyel) that they didn't want to put on the Mindspeech relay. 

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Seems like a reasonable degree of precautions. It would probably still be safer to avoid Haven until all the fallout is over, but given that Blai can probably help it be over sooner, Seldan thinks it's worth the risk. 

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Blai is ready to go though he is starting to be unclear on who feels like they have how much authority to propose that he be in various locations and what the protocol should be if they can't come to a consensus about that.

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Seldan thinks everyone else's model is that the Valdemar's leadership has the strongest grounds to ask Blai to be in places, since he is arguably a Herald now, and Leareth is approaching this from the angle of trying to work with the Heralds. (Maybe complicated by the fact that it's deeply unclear whether Vanyel is thinking about things in terms of reporting to the Valdemaran chain of command, versus just dropping everything to stop gods from assassinating Leareth and grabbing anyone within range who can help with that.) Seldan himself is - probably going to be inclined toward seeing the Heralds as having authority here, if he's not thinking about it carefully; he was a Herald before, Valdemar was the country he had sworn an oath to, and things are more complicated now but he hasn't had a lot of time to reason through what his current obligations are. 

...To be clear, he doesn't think Blai is in any sense obligated to take the Heralds' requests of him as anything other than suggestions; he's just noting that he hasn't, himself, entirely untangled 'loyalty to Valdemar specifically' in his instinctive prioritization. He does think that giving the Heralds more capacity to respond to things sanely over the next couple of days is a particularly valuable place to intervene. 

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Someone needs to go wake Vanyel and transport him over here - he is as far as Nayoki is aware still catching some rest at the same base where Brightstar and Jisa are - and then they'll be ready to go. 

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Did Blai accidentally join a chain of command without realizing it - oh okay. Blai doesn't mind cooperating with the Heraldic organization, he just would have needed to do more research before becoming part of it to make sure this wasn't going to contradict anything else he's already obliged to. What is the oath in question, is it still operative for Seldan or did its hold on him die when his previous incarnation did?

Vanyel's relationship with the chain of command does seem to be very much a loose, in-passing acquaintance. It's confusing.

Blai can go wake up Vanyel if there's no more obvious person to do it.

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Nayoki had flagged that perhaps Vanyel is in a jumpy mood and should not be poked awake by a stranger, but Blai doesn't need to worry about it and can just wait here, Jisa is still over there and can Mindspeak him without leaving Brightstar. Also, to be clear, it sounds like the reason she doesn't want to leave Brightstar isn't that she's worried he will do something murderous if not continuously under guard, and is more that he's a person she cares about and is having a pretty bad time. 

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Seldan does not think it makes sense for his oath to hold now that he's been reincarnated as a magic horse with only the vaguest memories of his actual life (as opposed to Valdemaran history and policy, which he remembers pretty well.) He had kind of want to clarify that with the Groveborn before leaving Haven but Rolan did...not seem to be coping incredibly well with the abrupt change in circumstances. Seldan is worried that - well, whatever thing Enara was worried about with him, the part where Companions can't think about disobeying gods unless they fight off mind control about it, he thinks maybe the Groveborn has that more intensely? He didn't seem about to repudiate Dara over it, thankfully, but he also didn't seem incredibly able to engage. 

...Seldan has a vague suspicion that most other Companions in fact have binding loyalty-to-Valdemar, as part of the same mechanism that makes it hard to question if Velgarth's gods are really on their side. It would make sense of some odd notes in the conversations he had with them. Seldan doesn't seem to have that part either, just the Companion-bond, which is in a sense probably also mind control but it doesn't bother him to be 100% dedicated to Blai. 

 

And - it might make sense of Vanyel as a person, if Yfandes had to shake off that mind control four years ago in order to stick by him, and they've had all the time since then to be much less directly and unavoidably bound to Valdemar. Though it's probably also relevant to his relationship with the King that he's a little older - very much someone Randi might have looked up to as a heroic mentor figure, back when he was a trainee and his father was alive so he wasn't expecting to inherit the throne for decades. And Vanyel spent nearly a year during the war with Karse being approximately the only Herald-Mage holding the Valdemaran border. He's had...more time than most...when he would have been making decisions almost entirely on his own. 

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Vanyel is there five minutes later. 

He clearly just woke up but he...seems better, maybe? His expression is more visibly unhappy but he seems less cold and remote, more like a human being who's actually present in the room with them. 

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Great! They can all go line up in the Gate-terminus room along with several dozen additional people, and prepare to head to Waymeet. 

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Indelible loyalty to a specific country is, for personal Blai background reasons, kind of weird as a concept! Almost no one who was loyal to Cheliax a hundred years ago would have been or should have been any time in the intervening century! Maybe the gods would stop producing Companions if something like that happened?? Or maybe they wouldn't, because they suck??

He awaits the Gate.

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Hmm. Seldan personally would feel that his loyalty is primarily to what Valdemar is trying to be, and secondarily to the particular King he swore his oath to (...he might have served more than one King over his life as a Herald and thus sworn it a few times? it's incredibly frustrating not remembering details like that!) Anyway, if Valdemar were hypothetically taken over by a cadre of people working for an evil god - or, you know, who were just mundane kind-of-terrible people - he would absolutely not consider himself bound to serve them.

But - as a Herald in his mortal life, now might be different - he thinks that if Valdemar had ended up horribly off-course like that, he would have considered himself bound to keep fighting for Valdemar, specifically, even if it seemed like a doomed effort, rather than going off to some other part of the world not ruled by an evil god? He's not sure, though, he doesn't think he's ever considered the hypothetical in depth now. 

(And should probably not do it now even though it's very interesting to think about, he needs to be focused on situational awareness.) 

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They go through the Gate into Waymeet. 

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Lissa is working on two candlemarks of sleep and has just spent a remarkably stressful and unpleasant candlemark wrangling thirteen badly injured kyree, eight injured and set-commanded gryphons (that's not all the injured gryphons but they ran out of space and prioritized the ones who the Healers thought might not recover otherwise), and twenty-one very sheepish and mostly-sobered-up soldiers into a circle marked out in the largest barn they could free up for it, exactly matching the figure she was given for Blai's channel radius, with a narrow aisle so Blai can actually get through to the middle.

She is in a BAD MOOD and could really use a hug from her brother but it feels too unprofessional in front of Leareth's mages, so she doesn't ask. 

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Blai confirms that this is everybody they want to pile in, walks to the center, checks the radius, and channels.

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The soldiers file out under General Lissa Ashkevron's stern glare and firm prior orders that they are NOT TO START ANYTHING ELSE IN THIS BARN. The gryphons are still set-commanded and don't do anything. 

The kyree are very grateful. Subdued - apart from four scouts who were far enough away to miss the explosion, this makes literally all the survivors of Hot Springs Clan, which previously numbered sixty-plus, and none of the pups survived. But grateful, both to Blai and to Leareth's people who helped dig them out of the wreckage and evacuate them here before they froze to death. They hadn't really been expecting that. 

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...Seldan can relay an explanation of the resurrection magic from Golarion if Blai has one ready? 

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- yes. :Golarion gods give out resurrection magic. It is expensive, partly because it requires a cleric of rare power, stronger than I am, but also because it requires sizeable diamonds. It requires the soul to be free to return, and the weaker and therefore less expensive spells also require remains, as intact as possible. The raised would be a little weaker, as though not quite recovered from a very bad illness - fixable with more magic and diamonds if that's important enough. My hope is that some of the participants in the hostilities here will view your losses as their responsibility and also that diamonds might be much cheaper here since they have no such local use, such that they could actually cover all the Raises your clan would want as reparations, but I cannot speak for any such entity. I'd recommend making a particular effort to find the bodies and sort them by intactness and how important it is to have them alive again. I can with some considerable opportunity cost make elapsed time count for less with respect to the difficulty of raising a longer-dead person, which might matter if it takes more than nine days since their deaths to reach Golarion and make purchases.:

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Wow. That seems really important to know!!! Nayoki had not realized there was a timeline like that and it probably affects Leareth's prioritization on interplanar-Gate-research versus putting all his time toward defusing the geopolitical situation before he starts on that.

She's going to immediately Mindspeak one of the comms-spell mages to get word to Leareth, but also she should probably say something now. 

:The attack on your people happened entirely because you had offered to shelter Leareth, so I do think he would consider it our responsibility to do everything we can to help recoup your losses. I am fairly certain we can arrange to provide diamonds. ...Leareth will likely have an estimated timeline for his research on finding Golarion in a few days, but I think it is more likely than not it would take longer than nine days, it has never been attempted before.: 

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Seldan appreciates Nayoki. He feels like Valdemar also bears a lot of responsibility for what happened, since they were the ones to recruit Iftel into this in the first place, but Leareth's organization is almost certainly better placed to fund providing diamonds. 

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...The kyree are kind of in awe. They also have a lot of questions but Blai seems busy. 

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Nayoki will stay here and question - well, mindread - immobilized gryphons, in hopes that they know something about Iftel's other plans or at least Iftel's other resources. The others can head onward to Haven now? 

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Seldan is going to check briefly with some of the other Companions in Waymeet if General Lissa Ashkevron - incidentally, apparently Vanyel's sister - can be spared for half a day to swing by Haven with them. She looks like she could really benefit from joining in on the Nap Stack arrangement. Possibly so could some other people here but she's the one he noticed. 

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...Sure. Lissa can be temporarily spared in order to benefit from bizarre otherworldly magic and catch up on rest after staying up most of the night trying to prevent various stupid tensions in Waymeet from exploding into pointless violence. Things seem much less likely to explode into pointless drunken violence now that the sun is up. 

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Onward to Haven, then! 

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Where he should inspect the pillow in case it needs last minute frippery so that can be added in parallel with gathering everybody.

(The underlying spellcraft situation about what qualifies a pillow as sufficiently "expensive" is of course not how much somebody paid somebody else for it, or you could do it with a wad of corn silk and burlap. Instead it's something about how many manufacturing subtasks have to be executed and what degree of precision this execution indicates, so the ideal Nap Stack pillow has a lot of embroidery and is made of the most finicky fibers available. Blai has a vague memory of them being imported from some corner of Vudra in silk with a lot of dye painted on and intricate stitching on top of that, in batches. But you can compensate for a lackluster pillow by sewing things onto it that themselves represent precise execution of manufacturing tasks, like beads or a slipcover.)

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This pillow is ridiculous. It is an absolutely absurd pillow. It's made out of imported patterned silk, woven with already-dyed thread via some special secret method known only by the weavers' guild in Seejay, and a person with taste would have left it otherwise unadorned so it could shine, but Lady Treesa does not have any taste and so it additionally has intricate embroidery - she likes needlepoint and had a lot of candlemarks to kill when they were still back at Forst Reach and her children were grown - and it has crystal beads and tassels. Is that enough frippery? 

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Yes, that will do. Taste is not required, only technical finesse. She understands the pillow is going to vanish, right?

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She was so informed and asked curiously what would happen to it and why it works that way - and would probably appreciate an answer if Blai happens to know - but didn't object, probably because she was clearly so touched by being able to provide a vital asset out of her collection of random ornaments. 

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If she wants to watch it disappear she can be present when he casts the spell!

It's harder to estimate distances in the stables where everything's broken up with walls and Blai's going to want to stand up on a stall divider to do the casting to make sure he's got line of effect into every stall he wants to hit.

Everyone should be aware that if they're interrupted during their nap they can't go back to being under the spell - they can sleep in the area but it won't affect them any more. Also you can't get any use out of a second Nap Stack in the same week. So they need to be really clear with everyone who could possibly imagine it was a good idea to interrupt them to only do that if it is actually, genuinely, with a really good understanding of the importance of sleep, more urgent than the person they want to interrupt getting to sleep four times as efficiently. The spell will last for eight hours, and they should probably choose who's in it at any given portion of that time with that in mind, so that if (say) gryphons attack during any given period of the duration the people who are designated awake then can handle it without waking anyone up. Without being tempted to wake anyone up even if a god thinks it would be so great to wake them up. Blai has gotten the sense that Valdemarans might be really bad at this and is prepared to back this advice up with threats of not casting anything like this for them again if they do not take obvious basic precautions to efficiently use his spells.

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Seldan is also ready to back this up by harassing every Companion in Haven about it! 

It sounds like they should plan on having Heralds and Companions alternate their naps - if anyone has an urgent question for, say, Katha, her Companion should almost always know the answer. The downside is that people will probably be sharing stalls with someone else's Companion, which is a little weird, but he thinks that minimizing the cost of people being uninterruptible is worth it. Heralds should also pair up and take ten minutes to hand off any ongoing responsibilities to their buddy. They can fit everyone on the Senior Circle plus their Companions into the first two blocks, and then the rest of the time can be dedicated to more junior Heralds and other key personnel in Haven. 

...Blai should probably not go in the first wave, in case Seldan needs him to threaten anyone with not casting spells for them again. They've both had some sleep recently, at least. 

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Heralds file into the stables! Treven is going in the first wave; Dara will go in the second wave. Tran is buddied with Joshel and sleeping first, Katha is buddied with Keiran and same, Savil is buddied with Katri, et cetera et cetera. 

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...Vanyel is actually going to sit this one out. It would be really embarrassing if he ruined it for everyone by having a nightmare and accidentally setting something on fire. 

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Blai can be later, sure.

Casting time of one minute. Here goes.

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Savil is very much looking forward to getting a full night's sleep in two candlemarks, but she's not too tired to watch with mage-sight and see what this bizarre powerful magic from another world looks like. 

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It looks like him holding the pillow and waving it through the air in weird patterns while a necromancy effect emanates therefrom.

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That's very cool but Savil can't really tell anything about how it works from watching, it's too strange. She'll still watch intently the whole time, though. 

 

Heralds go into stalls. Savil curls up beside Katri's Companion and closes her eyes. 

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Companions of Heralds in this sleeping block will arrange to stand outside the stables and make sure no one tries to go in and accidentally wakes their Heralds. 

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...Also it sounds like Dara is outside and would like to ask Blai about something, if now is a good time? 

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Yes, now is fine, he'll hop back on Seldan from the stall divider he was standing on and ride out to meet her.

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She looks even more tired than the last time they spoke, but less upset. (The situation is not really better, exactly, but logistics are soothing and she's been doing a lot of that.) 

 

:I - we - were wondering if you might be willing to talk to Queen Karis. About, um, your world's experience around - how sometimes gods aren't Good and do things that hurt people.: Dara is carefully NOT framing it as "Blai's personal experience with having worked for an Evil god." :She's - I think she wants to be on our side, but she - she's conflicted, she was loyal to Vkandis and - thinks she owes Him for helping take back Karse from the corrupt priesthood and end the war a few years ago...: Shrug. :And I don't think any of us really know what to say.: 

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:I... don't know that I can guarantee any particular quality of result but I'm willing to speak to her if she wishes.:

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:She was open to it.: Another shrug. :And, I mean, I don't know if it's fully rational for her to listen to your advice on serving gods more because you saved her daughter's life, but - you did save her daughter's life and that meant a lot to her.: 

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Oh gods is this going to involve accepting face-screamy-foreigner expressions of gratitude. Are there going to be tears. :Would this be now or are you arranging a later appointment?:

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:After you have a chance to Heal Randi, but if you didn't have other plans, there's not much reason to wait, she's: not exactly 'under house arrest' but after recent events she has not been incredibly involved in the Heralds' planning, :- not busy.: 

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Seldan thinks it's a good idea. He hasn't met Karis but - from everything he's heard about her secondhand, she's a thoughtful, careful person who was trying very hard to do the right thing. He thinks she would get a lot from - the general way that Blai reasons about things, he's not sure he can pin it down better than that. He doesn't think it's just Law, he's not actually entirely sure if Karis would read Lawful, but it's - the broader concept-space that arises when Law is something that exists and can be perceived directly, distinct from Good. 

...Also she's definitely not going to cry. That is not the reputation he has for her. She might be "face-screamy" by his standards, it seems like everyone here must be with the possible exception of Leareth, but by Valdemaran standards it sounds like she's very controlled. 

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:Then I suppose I should go cast my Restorations.: Some idiot subprocess of his brain considers kicking Seldan into gear. He is not going to kick Seldan! Seldan is not a fluffy black Worldwound-breed horse! Why did he even think that!

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Habit? It's a habit that some number of Herald-trainees start out with, apparently, if they were nobleborn and rode horses before (he is still circumlocuting around using "Chosen" to describe the class of thing that Blai is now) becoming Heralds. You can do a sort of mental kick-equivalent thing in Mindspeech and he's heard that's what some Companions will do to break the habit, if it irritates them enough. It doesn't seem like Blai actually needs that as reinforcement, though. 

They can ride back to the King's suite to cast some more Lesser Restorations on the King and see if it helps some more. Well, Seldan can convey him to the right building and then drop him off at the door and wait outside because he won't fit, and two of Leareth's mages will follow Blai in in case assassins jump out of a cupboard or something. 

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Shavri is looking significantly better rested than when Blai last saw her - Randi had a much better night than his average for the past six months - and has a real smile for Blai. :Glad you're back. He's actually awake now, so you can meet properly - come on in.: 

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(The mages will come into the suite - otherwise they won't be able to watch Blai through the shielding on it - but stay out of the King's bedroom, that seems rude and awkward and it's not like they can't still intervene if something happens, which seems extremely unlikely now that they're here.) 

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King Randale is still very thin and pale, but he's sitting up in bed with only a few pillows for support, and smiles at Blai. :We're very grateful that you could come.: 

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:It's fortunate that the various logistics worked out for it. I have two Lesser Restorations today. They can be aimed somewhat at what Golarion magic identifies as the basic features of ability - I assumed with the first one that Endurance needed the most help but if you would prefer I aim one or both instead at Strength or Grace or even a mental ability I can try that, I don't know exactly what course your condition has taken.:

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:Huh.: Glance at Shavri. :I didn’t know physical abilities could be, er, neatly divided like that from the perspective of Healing magic? …Endurance sounds right for what the initial effects were, and whatever you did helped.:

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Nod. :I think there’s still room for improvement on - the dimension it helped with the first time - but probably a smaller improvement, it looked like - there’s some part it’s not touching at all and that would need to be addressed to get him to where he was before this illness started. Strength would be good, maybe, he’s still not very able to walk.:

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Nod. :It would be nice if I could make it to meetings without having to be pushed in that ridiculous chair-cart. And I don’t know how it would fix mental abilities but - if anything that’s the worst part. The spell helped some but - it’s the being in pain all the time, I think. Even with painblocking it’s just hard to concentrate.:

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:I don't think chronic pain per se is likely to be affected by a Lesser Restoration. Endurance and Strength today?:

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Glance at Shavri again. :I think that’s reasonable?:

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:That sounds good, yes.:

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"Lesser Restoration..." It's a three round casting time. "Lesser Restoration."

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:Thank you.: Heartfelt, but without screaming with his face about it too much. Randi is maybe not going to try getting up just yet, in case he’s still not strong enough and falls on his face, but he thinks he probably could. 

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Shavri squeezes Randi’s hand. :Thank you.:

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He’ll push himself into a more upright sitting position. :…I don’t know if you have any questions for me specifically, but - happy to answer them now, if you do.:

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Oh no now it's marked if he doesn't have any questions for the king but he didn't know he was supposed to have questions for the king! Why couldn't he have been asleep again! Seldan does he have any questions for the king he's forgetting?!

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Seldan thinks it's fine if he doesn't have any questions for the King! He's pretty sure Randi is just, you know, trying to be polite and welcoming to the man from another world who's done multiple heroic acts to prevent his kingdom from ending up at war and who he literally hadn't even greeted properly until now. 

If Blai still feels like it would be unbearably awkward to just say "no, the other Heralds have been very obliging and I have a Companion who can answer questions now" or something, he can come up with - hmm - they had been wondering how up to speed Randi is on things but that's a little awkward to ask him to his face and Seldan would be inclined to run it via his Companion... He's not in fact sure what Randi is planning in terms of diplomacy with Iftel, whether Valdemar might send someone there or what, but Randi may himself not have decided... 

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:Thank you, your majesty, but the Heralds have been very obliging and my Companion can answer questions as they come up.: Thank you Seldan you are very good Seldan.

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One of many reasons why Companions are convenient! Seldan is glad to be appreciated for it! 

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Randi hates when people call him that Blai is from another world and has no possible way of knowing that and is just trying to be respectful, and on this element in particular Randi is used to showing no sign that it bothers him, it's not like it doesn't come up constantly. He smiles and does not look discomfited. :I'm glad.: 

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Is that a dismissal. Is Blai allowed to bow his way out of the room now.

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Shavri will politely walk him back out to his mage-guards and then shut the door and go back to Randi.

(Randi has work to do - a lot of work - but how about for five minutes the first thing he does with his new health is CUDDLE her.) 

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They are not ambushed by any cupboard assassins on the way back out to Seldan. 

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That's good. If they have downtime now he could read Seldan some more of the Acts?

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Sure! Someone will let them know when it's a good time to talk to Karis, hopefully, but it seems pretty likely Dara got pulled away by some other urgent duty before arranging it and Seldan isn't inclined to push too hard on it unless they're still waiting in two candlemarks. He would like to hear more of the Acts! Also it's a bit early for lunch but there's food out already, if Blai wants to go hang out in the dining hall to read again; it has the virtue of being warm and not in anyone's way. 

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Important virtues! And the alarmingness of being in buildings has begun to attenuate. Maybe they can get through Act Two before Karis wants him.

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Maybe SOMEDAY Valdemar will get around to redesigning all its buildings to fit horses, but the dining hall actually looks like it hasn't been rebuilt properly since Seldan was human, soooooo he's not holding out hope for it being this year or anything. It should continue to get easier being separated by walls as the bond gets more established. 

He will convey Blai there and then park himself outside to listen! 

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(A couple of Leareth's mages will park themselves inside unobtrusively to hover. The rest are arrayed nearby where they're both less in the way and can watch more of the surroundings, but keeping Seldan updated on their locations via Mindspeech in case there's a sudden emergency and he needs to know.) 

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(They're very competent and it's reassuring! Seldan appreciates it.) 

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Blai gets a light lunch and settles in to read.

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Seldan will listen in attentively and mostly not ask too many questions; he can soak up a lot of context from Blai's thoughts. 

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Rolan interrupts Seldan about forty-five minutes later to say that Karis is ready and interested in seeing Blai now, if it's convenient. 

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Seldan will check with Blai if it's convenient. 

 

(He's pretty sure now is fine, he just has a lowkey desire to be slightly irritating to Rolan and is indulging it.) 

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Now is fine, he pockets the book and busses the tray and goes out.

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It's a longer ride this time; the place where Karis is staying is still within the inner city walls around the Palace area, but may have been selected to be maximally far from the Heralds' meeting wing. Leareth's mages who are accompanying them have apparently arranged to borrow horses, so it will go a bit faster, but the paths aren't entirely cleared of snow and it's slightly hard going for the horses. 

(Seldan stands ready to distract Blai with chess if this seems warranted, but he's also available to help think about what might be useful to say to Karis, since he's not sure if she's going to have specific questions or just...be really overwhelmed. It's a pretty overwhelming situation.) 

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Blai's kind of floundering. He has been assuming that he is in all the important senses responsible for his actions when he was Asmodeus's and accepts this fact about the world but he doesn't know how it... works. He is not sure when exactly he was supposed to do what precise other thing than what he in fact did with any of the tools he had at his disposal. It's not like he didn't know Asmodeus was evil. It's not like he didn't know that sometimes people determined using abstruse principles he did not understand that they should defy Asmodeus. It's not like he didn't realize that if he himself had been a defection risk, which he wasn't, he would have been wildly undersecured. He sort of assumes that if you took some person who was as constitutionally Good as he himself is Lawful and sent them to seminary they'd get themselves killed, one way or another, and maybe there are complicated edge cases but he was at the time pretty sure that suicide, too, was evil (it isn't always, according to the Eighth Act, but that's one of the ones he wants to talk to a catechism instructor about), so even if he had been trying to assess possible courses of action for whether or not they were the right thing to do, which he instead wasn't tracking at all, that wouldn't have been an obvious way to do the right thing...

Anyway, Vkandis is probably not as bad as Asmodeus. He ran a couple of apparently mostly inoffensive countries for a long time and then they did some war. Countries do wars. Aroden was Iomedae's god and Imperial Taldor did so much war. The Kelesh Empire is Sarenrae's and they do war all the time. Vkandis could be completely fine and simply not be great at tracking the consciences of and costs to His people.

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(Seldan is going to harass some other Companions for more context on Karis in hopes that he'll have anything useful to say.) 

...He agrees that Karis was not in a position where she should have been defying Vkandis before this. And it's not obvious that she should be now according to her values, he's not sure to what extent she endorsedly believes that she owes Vkandis favors that would be costly to her personally because He helped her end the war in Karse, which - it's sort of debatable how much He helped, it was at that point already determined that Valdemar was going to win, but it certainly made the aftermath cleaner and there's Good in that. 

He expects she's torn because...well, Vkandis' actions would make a lot of sense if Leareth were like Tar-Baphon, right? A lot of people, including some of the Heralds, kind of believed he was like that! Blai himself thought that it could conceivably be worth taking much more destructive actions than Vkandis has so far if the alternative were Leareth making an evil god. 

Leareth does not seem to be very much like Tar-Baphon, though. Seldan's read on him is that he seems to have genuinely wanted to make a Good god, or - maybe not exactly that, by Blai's world's standards, but the closest thing he could conceive of given the Velgarth baseline for what one can expect of gods. Even over a few brief conversations, he...reminds Seldan of someone, someone he's fairly sure he respected, though Seldan is completely failing to remember who because being reincarnated as a magic horse has some serious downsides. He seems pretty genuinely committed to avoiding war with Valdemar; if he weren't, he would surely have gotten out of the kyree caves and not ended up almost dying permanently in order to get Jisa out safely, which has to be a big deal, you don't get to be two thousand years old by taking risks like that casually. 

Anyway. Karis knows that, and - she has a lot of trust in Vanyel, who's thought for a long time that Leareth might be someone they could find a way to work with rather than fight, and - she also knows that Vkandis, or at least His agents on Iftel, were willing to do all this and apparently willing to invade Valdemar over it. 

So the question, maybe, is: how do you weigh it up, when your conscience says one thing, and your god, who presumably knows a lot more about the bigger picture, says another? And how to take into account that Vkandis is really not the same as Iomedae, and may not be as straightforwardly Evil as Asmodeus but does not, for example, seem to have considered trying to talk Leareth down from his course of action? 

 

 

...He could probably come up with actual advice given long enough to mull on it, but he doesn't have any pre-prepared. He can recall maybe having written about similar dilemmas in one's service to a human king, but it's not actually the same. 

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Maybe after they finish the Acts Blai can dig up what Seldan wrote in his past life and read that.

(You can get to two thousand years old taking risks like that casually if you are sufficiently immortal for most of those two thousand years!)

Blai doesn't have a conscience or if he has one he can't find it so he's not going to generate a lot of conscience-based advice. (Sometimes he tries on the model that Iomedae sometimes talks about in the Acts where the Good is written on every heart but it takes strange and organic forms, and tries to hold it up against himself, but mostly he thinks he simply doesn't like torturing people the same way he doesn't like watching chariot races. If Asmodeus had commanded him to watch chariot races he would have done that, too, the exact requisite amount, and then not done more of it when he had discretion. Maybe more like the way he wouldn't like chariot races if the charioteers were conceivably, while racing, paying a lot of attention to how good a job Blai was doing as an audience member, so the analogy breaks down, but still.)

Talking is expensive for gods! Maybe not as expensive for these ones? Blai isn't sure. Also it's harder for gods to reach people who are more distant from them and Leareth with his nigh-Rahadoumi antitheistic attitude and setup would be very hard indeed for any god to grant a vision, and also he seems like he might be the kind of guy who then wants to go through lots of costly verification procedures, which is worth it if you are Aroden cultivating an Iomedae but it is not obviously worth it if you are very nearly as happy to have the guy dead.

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(Seldan is nnnoooot getting into an argument with Blai today about whether Blai has a conscience, it's really not the time for it and they should have that conversation in - several years, possibly - but it's hard.) 

...They should probably at this point wait and see what Karis seems to actually be conflicted about at the moment, rather than trying to speculate in advance, but he imagines that right now she feels like she has to either break with Vkandis or break with Valdemar and King Randale and Vanyel, who she also owes an enormous amount. And she's probably struggling to figure out how one even orients to that sort of decision, but - well, another mental habit Seldan has is, when noticing something is being treated as a binary dilemma, to wonder if it's actually not and there's a third way. 

 

Anyway, they're still a few minutes away from their destination, which might be enough time for a very quick game of chess? Seldan feels like he's starting to be all right at the game now. 

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Blai's book of a hundred chess variants had Tiny Chess where you have your king and one each knight bishop and rook and four pawns to match and you play on a smaller board, they could fit in one of that real fast!

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Ooooooooh fun! 

(It's just different enough from the standard chess he's been gaining familiarity with that Seldan would need a lot more of his attention to keep up with Blai, and isn't actually willing to drop any threads he's using for situational awareness. Someday there will NOT be the pressing thread of Haven being invaded by gryphons or some other ridiculous godplot and he will be able to dedicate his FULL attentional capacity to beating Blai at weird chess, it's going to be glorious.) 

 

They are not attacked by gryphons or hidden assassins or implausible lightning. They reach a different guest wing – actually somewhat more ornate a building than the core Palace wings, it was (according to Seldan's hasty intelligence from the Companion gossip ring) built a lot more recently and has been mainly used in the past for visiting foreign dignitaries who the Heralds want to make a good showing to but also don't necessarily trust as much. Karis hasn't usually stayed there in the past. The kid is probably thrilled about it but he wonders how Karis herself feels. 

He feels antsier about having to stay outside this time, even though Blai will have some of Leareth's intensely competent mage-guards going in with him and also he really doesn't expect anything that goes wrong here to look like Karis trying to harm Blai. 

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A servant will open the main door for them and escort them to Queen Karis' suite. 

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Karis comes to the door.

She's not a Mindspeaker; one of the entourage will have to translate for Blai. 

She doesn't quite manage a real smile, but she bows her head briefly. "Thank you. For - everything you have done." No tears, and she isn't even particularly screaming with her face, either with gratitude or distress. "I suppose you should come in." 

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Whyyyy didn't he prepare a Share Language. Oh right it's because of his limited spell slots. :You're welcome. I'm glad that your daughter is all right.:

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Nod. 

Karis will usher him over to a table, offer him a chair, sit herself, and then - she doesn't know what to say. Savil thought she ought to talk to Blai, and - she can guess on what topic - but she doesn't know how to start. It feels too big to even look at in her own mind. 

She clears her throat. "Is Vanyel - all right -" What an incredibly stupid question. Of course Vanyel isn't all right. 

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...He's a lot more all right than he might otherwise be, honestly? Vanyel succeeded at the thing that's mattered most to him for the last twenty years: he was able to confirm that Leareth, whether or not he's a terrible person, wasn't lying about the person he is, and Valdemar is not at war. 

Seldan is here to help Blai formulate an answer in more detail if he wants. 

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:I am optimistic that he will make a full recovery should it prove possible to resurrect his Companion.: SELDAN YOU'RE STILL ALIVE, RIGHT, BLAI CAN'T SEE YOU RIGHT NOW.

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Seldan is here!!! He can be even more obtrusively in rapport with Blai if that helps, and make most of his surface thoughts visible; the bond is established enough now to do that even from a distance. 

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That does help thank you.

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Karis nods. Looks down at the table. 

"...I know what he would do, in my place," she says very quietly. "...He would have turned his back on Valdemar, and no matter his oath to the King, if he thought the Heralds were making a mistake." 

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But in her place it would be Karse that - oh, no, he sees how she's constructing the analogy. :On my planet we have a concept of Law, independent of morality. It can be very powerful, but it is possible to wind up in situations where it is impossible to maintain if one's commitments come into conflict, and it requires some luck or skill for that to never come up.:

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Karis blinks at him. Whatever she expected him to say, it wasn't that. 

"...I already know I cannot do right by everyone I owe," she says softly. "I owe Vanyel - and Randi, and all of Valdemar - my country, and the peace, and more than words can convey. But I owe my Sunlord everything. If - it were only that, it - would hurt, but it would not be hard." 

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:Are the terms of your arrangement with Him laid out explicitly?:

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She blinks at him like someone who has no idea what that could possibly mean. 

"He has been my country's god as long as Karse has existed. He protected our people when all would have been lost. There - is not a limit to what I owe Him for that." 

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:Are you sure?:

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She gives him an exhausted, helpless look. 

It's a long time before she answers. 

"It - was always the one thing I could be sure of, that I belong to Vkandis. Even when I was sure of nothing else. But - I think I am not sure of anything at all, anymore." 

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:There is a country bordering mine called Nidal. It is controlled by an Evil god. It has been ever since that god offered its people a way to survive there during the Age of Darkness, a winter that went on for a thousand years.

He's the god of pain. All their descendants since then go to His afterlife for eternal torture after a similarly agonizing mortal existence.

I do not think your god has begun to approach that extreme but that is what I think of when you say there is no limit.:

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Some things about Golarion are very disturbing. 

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Karis doesn't seem to know what to say to that. 

 

"...Vanyel would walk away," she says. "Or die trying, I suppose. I - am not sure what I would do."

Probably not have a child. 

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:Some people do.

In my present religion, there is a concept of 'illegal orders'. The idea is that there are things that absolutely no commander has the right to oblige his people to do. No one on up to the Goddess Herself can give those orders and be obeyed in them, and it is the responsibility of anyone operating under Her auspices to make sure that their subordinates know what those orders are, so that should anyone ever err and attempt to issue such a command they will be told, 'that is an illegal order, sir'. Doing this rather than obey an illegal order is the Lawful responsibility of any Iomedaean.

I find this a very useful concept and hope it is of some value to you.:

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She looks thoughtful. 

"That - makes sense with a human commander who might be mistaken. I am not sure it follows with a god, but." Shrug. "What kinds of things would count?"

Does he think that Vkandis Sunlord has sent His followers to do something his world would consider an illegal order, is the question she doesn't quite voice. She's genuinely unsure what his answer would be. 

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:I haven't taken an entire class on illegal orders yet but based on the material I have available - it's illegal to order someone to break an oath, violate a treaty, disobey a lawful order, commit a crime, conceal information from superiors - there's a whole procedure for handling potentially compromised superiors, in most cases it reduces to "go over their heads"...:

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...Nod. 

It still doesn't feel like it's really - answering the question. But maybe that's because she doesn't really know what her question is

 

"Vkandis has not asked anything of me in this," she says finally. "The King is afraid that He will. And that it would prevent Valdemar from keeping commitments they wish to make, if I were allowed to act." 

She shakes her head. "I suppose there are things He might ask of me that I would find unconscionable. I - I would not kill my child," that's the most horrifying example she can think of, "even on His orders. But if I do not know what might be asked of me, only that - that my Sunlord thinks that Leareth must be stopped, and Vanyel thinks that He must be wrong..." 

 

She's still not sure she's managed to say what her question is, or pinned down in her own mind what the question is.

Sometimes countries that were once at peace go to war, and it can't - she doesn't think it can - always be the case that someone somewhere had to give an illegal order. 

...And maybe that's the question Randi has for her, fundamentally: is she committed to the peace, to the treaty they fought so hard for, even if it means going against her god, who was behind her through all of that? 

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Seldan is pretty sure there are a lot of things she's not saying. (He can't read her mind to check; she seems to be one of the few non-Gifted people who has learned to hold something like Mindspeech shields, and also it would be super illegal and deeply inappropriate to read the Queen of an allied kingdom without her permission.) 

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:I'm not sure I understand - does Valdemar have a treaty with you stating that they're allowed to make commitments on your behalf without your agreement, was that in the terms of the alliance?:

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That helps bring some of it clearer in her head, actually. 

"Not exactly? I think that what Iftel already did, in the north, was - not breaking a formal agreement so much as an implicit expectation." And she wasn't involved and had no idea about it until well after the Heralds found out. She doesn't know how to feel about that either. "And - it is not as though the King had promised Leareth safe passage in a region Valdemar controlled and then failed to keep to that. But - I think they fear they could not promise that even if they wished, if I am here, even though Karse has been Valdemar's closest ally for almost a decade. Because now they do not trust my god. And..." 

They want her to pick a side, is the implicit choice that no one has actually put into words, and - it doesn't feel fair, it feels like a choice she can't possibly be expected to make - almost a nonsensical choice, those loyalties shouldn't come into conflict, couldn't come into conflict if the world still made sense - and yet.

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:I'm... new to this planet and do not know the geopolitical situation beyond what I've picked up in the last several days. Are you personally powerful enough that you'd be able to go to a Valdemar-controlled area and assail an archmage there? If you are what would stop you from attacking him at home? If you aren't then how would your presence in Haven prevent them from following through on a commitment of that nature regardless of your god's instructions?:

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...Huh, what a good question, what are they specifically worried that she could do? Not her country's army (which in any case isn't in Haven and has very little way to get to Haven without the infrastructure capacity Valdemar theoretically controls, and also doesn't have nearly enough mages to take on Leareth). But her...

"- I carried a miracle for Vkandis once. At the end of the war. It was a miracle of healing, not violence, but - it could have been otherwise. I think they are worried for the same reasons they worry about the Heartstone."

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:If I were Valdemar I would just write into any treaty of safe passage I made with Leareth that it does not and cannot bind the behavior of Vkandis or any other deity, and maybe separately if I were being much friendlier with Leareth have another treaty that spelled out penalties for persons in a position to be affected by Valdemaran reprisal who aid deities, something like 'should any person offered hospitality in Valdemar commit acts of violence directly or by proxy against the counterparty of this treaty then they will be summarily ejected from the country' - I'm assuming they don't have the authority to make you stand trial but I don't actually know - and of course the effectiveness of doing that would depend a lot on how much Vkandis cares about whether you get to continue to be in Valdemar going forward, which could be a lot or not at all. On Golarion a practice of executing clerics of any unapproved deity keeps a lot of would-be clerics from being picked up by the unapproved deities in the first place and others it doesn't discourage a bit.:

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That sounds very complicated and, fine, like it's probably a sensible sort of thing for a clever person who wants to be very prepared for all eventualities to set up if they're very worried about their country's interests being caught in the middle of a conflict between various gods and an immortal archmage who hates all of them. 

Karis is maybe just wishing that there was no conflict there to worry about, or at least that she didn't have to be caught in the middle of it. 

...And keeps, despite herself, imagining some sort of awful situation where she feels the Sunlord's presence all around her, and lets that light into herself fully again because she trusts her god, and this ends with Vkandis trying to set Leareth on fire and Vanyel trying to step in the way and dying horribly and it being her fault. 

 

She has no idea how to say any of that in a way that makes sense. 

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Blai cannot read her mind. Even the mindreaders present cannot read her mind. However, by sheer coincidence, in the awkward silence that this creates, he has realized something closely related: he doesn't know if she's able to explode or not! Some people can do that here! What is the casting time on suddenly exploding, it didn't look very telegraphed in the prophecies!

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Karis is not a mage - or Gifted in any way - and can't Final Strike.

(All right, it's...not impossible...that 'cause an un-Gifted person to Final Strike' is a miracle a god could do? But the current pause is definitely not because she's about to be possessed by her god. - yep, he's briefly checked with some other Companions in the city who were around for the battle of Sunhame, and it was apparently very obvious, with more than enough lead time for an alert mage to Gate Blai out of there.) 

 

Seldan's read is that Karis is very upset about something and - he doesn't think it's something that lives in the exact details of treaty obligations, even if this situation would almost certainly be less confusing for everyone involved if those...existed...in a clear form. He does think part of what's going wrong is that Valdemar's treaty with Karse is probably very underspecified on a lot of question relevant to this situation which no one expected to come up, and a lot of the alliance is built on, like, friendship and respect and things like that which can't be written down. Which is absolutely making things awkward now. 

His read is that Karis is conflicted because...having absolute trust in her god is something she's taken for granted? And all the concepts about illegal orders and treaty obligations and such are almost certainly helpful, but - he doesn't think are really addressing the core of why she's upset about finding out that she lives in a world where her god might ask her to do something she believes is wrong.

Also he suspects a lot of what the Heralds are worried about isn't that Karis could directly channel a miracle to try to murder Leareth, and more that she's a source of visibility for Vkandis in Haven and they are abruptly realizing this might be a problem. And he doesn't think they've communicated much to Karis what their threat model is, even insofar as they've figured it out themselves, so - it's probably just been a confusing and upsetting few candlemarks, with people she likes and respects abruptly treating her like a liability. 

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Oh.

He doesn't really know what to say about that. He has memorized the situations in which his obligation would be to tell Iomedae "that is an illegal order sir" but he doesn't have any other things he wouldn't do if She told him to, he thinks? He's like, aware that this is a problem he has, probably, Iomedae herself did a lot of vetting of Aroden and this isn't framed as the folly of youth in the book, this defect of Blai's probably related to how he was an Asmodean until Asmodeus dropped him of His own accord, but he doesn't know what you're supposed to do if unlike Blai you have an entire conscience and are just now noticing that your god might not prioritize managing your conscience for you in giving commands.

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...What if Iomedae told him to do something that wasn't specifically on the list of illegal orders - for a stronger point, something he somehow knew wasn't on anyone's list of illegal orders - but that ran up against his personal sense of Law? Seldan can try to think of an example if examples would help, and - well, this would probably be a weird implausible thing to happen because Iomedae is Herself Lawful and that's meaningful in Blai's world - but Seldan has noticed that Blai has a Lawnscience a strongly-felt personal sense of what it means for him to be Lawful, which Seldan suspects predates working for Iomedae and probably predates being a cleric of Asmodeus as well. And he suspects that the way Karis feels about personal loyalty to people who helped her in costly ways and have been close friends for years is most analogous to how Blai feels about Law as a concept. 

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Breaking an oath or a treaty are both on the list of illegal orders! So is committing a crime! It would be genuinely pretty hard to come up with something Iomedae could command of him which would be unLawful and not any of those things! Though if he does think of one he should simply swear an oath not to do it and then it's covered.

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Fair enough. Seldan is mostly trying to find a point of comparison for the experience he thinks Karis is having now, because he’s pretty sure Blai is capable of feeling that way under the right (wrong?) circumstances, even if he’s not calling the part of him that would object “his conscience.” 

What if Iomedae had ordered him to be helpful and cooperative with Leareth after being kidnapped evcn though this incentivized kidnapping Seldan should probably stop trying so hard to come up with an exact analogy that could happen to Blai, since - he thinks part of the problem is that Karis specifically and maybe Velgarth in general are lacking a lot of the concepts for relating to gods that would let Blai say "that is an illegal order sir", rather than - just feeling like this was a baffling impossible situation that he had no good way to orient to. 

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Blai would certainly have felt some kind of way if Asmodeus had ordered him to violate the Worldwound treaty but he would probably have come to the conclusion that he'd been enchanted. It's way more likely than Asmodeus talking to some random third-circle direct anyway.

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Well. It doesn't seem nearly as implausible as Seldan would like that Vkandis might try to do something quite unpleasant from Valdemar's perspective by working through Karis, because it seems like Vkandis could want Leareth dead a lot more than He wants Karse and Valdemar to maintain their hard-won peace. And that does sound like a pretty unpleasant situation for Karis to find herself in! That she could pretty reasonably never have anticipated or thought to emotionally prepare herself for! 

She...should probably prepare herself for it now, though, even if it's got to be awfully tempting to try to continue believing she can somehow thread the needle of both sets of loyalties. 

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Blai has no idea how people whose gods aren't Lawful cope, but he suspects that this is probably him being weird. He extra has no idea how people cope when they don't even know that being Lawful is a thing such that they can either choose to require it or not to.

Wow Karis is sure... thoughtful. Does she maybe want him to leave or what.

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Herald-Companion Mindspeech while in rapport is very fast; it's been less than thirty seconds, which is still a long enough time that Karis is realizing she must be making this incredibly awkward by...still not being able to figure out what to say. To this man from another world who heroically saved her daughter and who keeps saying things that she finds bafflingly upsetting given how eminently reasonable they are. It does at least feel like part of what's upsetting with Randi is the...lack of clarity on whether they even agree on the things they owe one another...and Blai was able to point that out. 

...She is abjectly terrified of - what - of living in a world where she doesn't belong to Vkandis anymore? Where she doesn't have a god on her people's side? Even though that must be the situation Vanyel has been in for his entire life, and - she thought she had understood but clearly she hadn't. 

She really doesn't want to say any of that to Blai, though. 

"- You have given me a great deal to think about," she says, because that at least is true. "I appreciate your taking the time to come." 

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She definitely seems more upset than before they started talking, according to Seldan, but - that doesn't actually seem like a bad thing? It's an upsetting situation. Better to think about all the horrible ways it could go in advance, and - maybe think twice if Vkandis shows up to work a miracle through her, his vague recollection is that gods do need at least some degree of a person's assent to do that. 

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:It's no trouble,: he tells Karis, and since he's not positive if that was a dismissal or not, :Is there anything I can do for you?:

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She considers this.

"...If you see Jisa again, please tell her that - I did not know. That Iftel was planning an attack on Leareth at all, or that she would be in danger. I - I might have obeyed Vkandis if He had asked me to act, but - not without telling King Randale, and obviously not if I had known she would be involved." 

She kind of wants to ask him if he can pass it along to Vanyel as well, but that's much weirder when he's also in Haven and it's just that she doesn't feel like she can look him in the eye.

"Thank you, that is all." 

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:Your majesty,: he says, and he bows his way out of the room. They throw very informal monarchs around here.

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Seldan's impression is that Valdemar is the outlier on formality of monarchs, and King Randale in particular, and his wild guess is that Karis finds it soothing to "go native" on that front while here. He has vague memories (vague enough that he's not sure if he was ever there or just read about it) of the actual Karsite court being a lot more formal than this. 

 

He's waiting outside for Blai and delighted to no longer be separated by walls.

...Also he's now wondering if Karis has really and truly thought about the fact that, one, Vkandis and the Star-Eyed Goddess seem to have almost certainly been working together in trying to assassinate Leareth and, two, that the Star-Eyed killed several hundred of Her own people. He doesn't think it would have helped to bring it up but he hopes she does think it through, at some point.

(Seldan isn't actually sure what the Tayledras consider to be the exact terms of their pact with the Star-Eyed Goddess - or if it's ever occurred to them to enumerate them formally. They're on board with giving up their lives in Her service, Kellan says that their scouts and mages face about the same risks as Heralds in the field of duty - at least in his era, most Heralds didn't live to die in their beds - but what happened to k'Treva seems...different. In their place he would certainly see it as a betrayal.) 

 

Anyway, they're not obviously required for anything right now? The Nap Stack arrangement is going fine and no one has been woken. Are there other conversations Blai wants to follow up on, or does he just want to go read more of the Acts somewhere? 

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More of the Acts sounds good.

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Nothing disastrous happens before the first wave of the Nap Stack is up!

Savil emerges with more bounce in her step than she's had in weeks. She's still tired on some level, but - almost entirely in an emotional sense, really, and even that is easier to bear now that her head is clear. She trades off with Katri, who goes in with Kellan. 

...They need to be thinking about shutting down the Web. She's worried that the Web is going to object and it doesn't seem very logistically feasible to evacuate Haven in preparation, especially if the Star-Eyed correctly sees interfering with this as a way to delay them, but - she should talk with Vanyel. As privately as possible, in case that makes the slightest difference. 

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Treven comes up bright-eyed and bushy-tailed. 

First up is meeting properly with Randi to do a full, thorough report on everything he's been doing for the last week, because Randi is going to be taking back over on the next Council meeting scheduled for tonight. It's likely to be an awfully eventful Council meeting; they're planning to announce Blai's vision about the Ifteli invasion, as well as the part where Leareth nearly died trying to get Jisa out safely from an Iftel-back attack. 

 

He miiiiiiisses Jisa, desperately, but - they're adults, they can cope. Or at least he'd better be able to cope, because it's about to get worse. Randi is sending him to Rethwellan again, by Gate (cast by one of Leareth's people, since they're not sure they trust White Winds anymore). His mission is to open a much more forthright negotiation with Queen Lythiaren than the last time, and renegotiate whether and how much Rethwellan can commit to helping them with defense against Iftel and maybe also Karse. He's not looking forward to this at all but it's undeniably important, and it should at least be a faster mission than the last one. 

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Dara rotates in for her own nap. 

Afterward she is going to have the WORST mission, which is going to a neutral location outside the Web, a town in Hardorn near the border of both other countries - apparently Leareth has contacts in Hardorn because of course he does and his people were able to help arrange that on short notice?? - to meet the Ifteli high priest and attempt diplomacy. She feels pretty doomy about this working, but it's clearly worth trying and she at least mostly doesn't expect it to go badly in a way that involves surprise gryphons. 

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(Shavri ends up deciding against joining the Nap Stack. She doesn't think most of her lingering fatigue is about a lack of sleep per se; she slept gloriously last night, in the arms of her lifebonded who ISN'T GOING TO DIE. She'll probably be less tired now that Randi isn't constantly draining energy from her through the lifebond. And of course the chances of having to urgently interrupt and wake any of the Heralds are a bit lower if she's on hand the whole time, she's not technically a Herald but she's more up to speed than anyone else who isn't a Herald.) 

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Vanyel spends a candlemark crying on Stef while being snuggled and sung to, which feels like it actually helps a lot more than sleep would. He would consider trying to grab a slot in the last wave but it's going to conflict with the Council meeting and he should be there and play Demonsbane to intimidate anyone being difficult. 

He meets with Savil about the Web, and then with Randi to report fully on the events since he left Haven the most recent time. Though apparently Seldan beat him to it by backchanneling information to all the Companions of the Senior Circle Heralds, so it's mostly redundant. 

 

...Someone needs to meet with Lord Withen Ashkevron to discuss the Council meeting content before it happens; he's a valuable person to have on-side, the conservative faction listens to him. Vanyel suspects that normally he would run as fast as he could in the other direction, but this time he volunteers himself. He's not sure why it seems so much less agonizing now. Maybe because Withen doesn't look at him with that awful carefully disguised sympathy that all the Heralds have. 

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Sitting in on Blai reading the Acts does not take up Seldan's full concentration and he can do SO much backchanneling. He'll also interrupt every so often to update Blai on events and decisions as they happen. 

He's not actually sure if there are decisions gated on the Council meeting, so much as "the Heralds are trying to do less of the thing where they tell the Council the absolute bare minimum about Leareth, guaranteeing that it will come as a baffling shock to everyone when they turn around and claim that the entire war they were anticipating with him was a mistake." Blai is not invited. No one can stop Seldan from listening in via the other Companions, though. 

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Surely the... other Companions... could stop him... if that were actually important to anyone? (Why is their national security approach "horse conspiracy".)

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They could shield him out - and it sounds like the Senior Circle did keep the whole Leareth affair secret from the other Companions for a long time - but they don’t, usually. Now that he's a Companion himself, he's starting to see why it works that way. There is such a spectacular amount of backchannel communication at all times. A lot of it doesn't immediately get passed on directly to the Heralds of the relevant Companions, but it means that it's much faster and smoother to get everyone looped in when it's necessary. 

Anyway, in this case it's not important to keep Blai out of the loop! Things will probably go better if Blai is in the loop! He's not formally invited because it would be yet another thing to explain and because he doesn't speak the language, but the contents of the meeting are basically all things he already knows. 

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He doesn't object to this specific instance of being kept in the loop, he's just kind of baffled by the overall pattern of looping-in and -out decisionmaking he observes.

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Valdemar's entire government is based on the existence of miraculous magical telepathic horses and this is objectively speaking a pretty bizarre way to run your government but, once that's the system you've picked, it doesn't seem additionally surprising that the approach to national security can be described as a "horse conspiracy". It feels like it would take a lot of effort on the part of the Heralds themselves to make it not that, and it hasn't (yet) led to the kind of problems that would prompt the Heralds to push back. 

(Also, selfishly, Seldan finds being part of the horse conspiracy delightful.) 

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Oh no is Seldan going to be bereft of his horse conspiracy when they go to Golarion. He sounded pretty excited to go to another planet before but it doesn't have any horse conspiracies that Blai knows about.

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It'll be an adjustment! He'll definitely miss some things about it. But he somehow really doubts they're going to be bored in Golarion, which is what would make it genuinely unpleasant. Being north in Leareth's base was also fine, he wasn't bored at all, and Golarion seems like it also has, well, a lot going on. 

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Yes. Specifically it has a constitutional convention ordered by the queen's archmage party member going on. It sounds dreadful but Blai is not commanded to like it.

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...Will Blai be upset if Seldan thinks that sounds like it could be a huge amount of fun for him personally? Getting a spot at the table to shape the future of a government! Oh, it's probably going to be full of people who are infuriatingly wrong about how a government ought to be run, but Seldan would have lived a very different life if he didn't find it on some level enjoyable to win arguments with infuriatingly wrong people. It makes sense that Blai is dreading it, Blai does not seem very much like Seldan in that respect. 

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Since Blai has to do it anyway it is in fact quite relieving to plan to do it with Seldan helping excitedly in the back of his head the whole time!

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Oh good!!! 

 

...Anyway it continues to sound like things in Haven are going about as well as they can expect. Maybe the Heralds are sufficiently firm on not waking anyone in the Nap Stack that the Star-Eyed isn't bothering to manufacture emergencies about it because it wouldn't work. Does Blai want a turn to nap with the third wave of people? 

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That is probably in principle a good idea but in practice he feels sufficiently awkward about sharing a stall with somebody else's Companion that he's not sure he could in fact sleep that way, he's not tired enough that he can be confident it would outweigh the dismay.

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Fair enough. Seldan doesn't think it's a great idea for both of them to be uninterruptible at the same time, and the space in the barn isn't unlimited enough for it to really make sense for Seldan to park himself in a stall with Blai and take up space without intending to actually sleep. Honestly this is pretty uncomfortable for a lot of the Heralds too and some of them - Heralds not on the Senior Circle who aren't quite as sleep-deprived to begin with - have been declining it on those grounds.

The last wave of people may end up being half Healers and support staff who don't have Companions anyway, so if Blai would feel more comfortable sharing a mattress in a stall with Melody or something, he could do that in another two candlemarks? Though, like, pretty understandable if the problem is that he wants to sleep with Seldan there, this is a very common experience for new Heralds. 

(Seldan is fine with the amount of sleep he's had today and was not really planning to sleep and leave Blai without his company.) 

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Blai thinks he can sleep sans Seldan and near Melody. This is culturally weird for him but in the direction where he'd expect Melody to object, not where it bothers him directly.

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There are probably also male Healers or support staff he could share with, Melody is just the first person he was able to confirm is grabbing a nap in the last wave, doesn't have a Companion, and is willing to share a mattress with Blai. 

Anyway, that's in a couple of candlemarks. They can read some more of the acts, eat supper, and then head back over to the stables? 

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Works for him.

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Then Seldan can learn some more facts about Iomedae! In between he updates Blai that Dara, having benefited enormously from the equivalent of a full night's sleep, has now successively been dispatched to Random Small Town In Hardorn to do diplomacy. 

And then a couple of hours later, after Blai has eaten supper, he can come out and rejoin Seldan and the Leareth-mage-entourage and they'll make their way back across the Palace grounds to the stables? 

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Out he comes to be toted to the stable.

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It's fully dark now, but for once it's actually stopped snowing, and the sky is even clear enough for there to be some moonlight. It's not a long trip, down the nicely cleared path and crossing one of the half-dozen bridges over the Terilee river and then past Companions' Field to the stables. Seldan is enjoying being outside with Blai on his back, though Blai's Endure Elements has now worn off so he's not going to dawdle. 

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The bridge is old, but well maintained, with preservation spells on the stone renewed once a year. There are some cracks, of course, where water snuck in between the mortared stones and expanded where it froze, but really it ought to be good for another century. 

It's certainly immensely unlikely that tonight in particular, at the exact moment the priest from another world is at the center of it, is when several harmless-on-their-own cracks will implausibly extend and link up, causing the entire structure to abruptly and catastrophically fail, and send everyone currently standing on it crashing through the river-ice amidst an avalanche of stone bridge components. 

What if that happened anyway

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It feels like a long time that they're falling. Seldan has time to get a Mindspeech shout out to almost every Companion in Haven (not the ones currently in the Nap Stack) and to Leareth's mages, several of whom were on the bridge with them but at least a dozen aren't and can respond from not in the water - 

 

- and then the force of impact tears Blai off his back and they are abruptly both underwater. And, within a second or two, caught in the fast-moving current and under the ice being swept downstream. 

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Blai doesn't have an Air Bubble.

He's got a Light, but it turns out that it's hard to see in turbid water even once he forces his eyes open.

It's so cold.

He's got his armor on, and he's kicking but he doesn't actually know how to swim per se, so he's sinking and the current's pulling and he didn't have time to get a whole lungful of air but that won't be his biggest problem for the next few seconds, his biggest problem is that he can't feel his fingers - and even if he manages to grab his mace anyhow he'll be swept past any given hole in the ice he makes before he can stick his head through it. He's working on the grab-mace step. Positive energy works on frostbite as long as the extremities are still attached. They're still attached. Can he, if he squints, see anything to wedge himself against so he can stop moving with the current, is there anything - how is he going to get Seldan out -

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Seldan is in pain that he's ignoring, but he didn't land nearly as badly as he could have. For a moment in midair he was certain he would break all of his legs and then at the moment of impact he's pretty sure he at most broke one leg and it might only be bruised. He was then briefly panicked about Blai being hit in the head by falling bridge debris and - then it seemed like Blai was fine, actually, and he remembered that his Herald is physically a lot tougher than normal people, so that's all right, Blai is still conscious and able to hold his breath and that means time to strategize. 

 

He's in Mindspeech contact with Leareth's mages who didn't fall into the river along with them (both people who did end up in the water are unconscious and - already more than thirty feet away, unfortunate, he's tracking them as a concern but Blai is his priority right now) - anyway he's bouncing both of their location to the mages on the shore who can maybe do something - 

 

- someone is trying an unscaffolded Gate-threshold ahead of them but they can't get it aimed in the right place and stable in time, magic is a lot harder to control under running water - someone is trying a force-net but they also can't stabilize it in time and Seldan's weight crashes through the threads of magic as they're starting to form - 

 

- they're going to hit a shallower part of the river in maybe ten seconds, there will be a lot of jagged rocks, which on the one hand Blai can maybe wedge himself against, but also he might just smash into them and get injured - 

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Injured is fine unless there are river sharks and possibly even then! Also he's got the armor on and if it's useful for anything that anything includes taking a jagged rock for him! He can channel if necessary to make his fingers work long enough to get ahold of his mace injured and get a hole in the ice! The question is if he can get to and puncture a suitable spot faster than Seldan by enough that both of them will be able to stick their faces out and breathe, and grab hold of the edges of the hole to not be swept away further, and climb out. Is Seldan in range of a channel if he does one? Can they maneuver enough to stay close and not kick each other?

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There shouldn't be any river sharks but also that bridge should not have collapsed for no reason so Seldan does not want to bet on it! 

He can probably get within thirty feet but he'll have less freedom of motion to both avoid kicking Blai and avoid running into rocks at an angle where he'll be seriously injured. ...Also Seldan cannot realistically grab the edge of a hole in the ice, and has less ability than Blai to wedge himself on an obstacle, he weighs a lot more and doesn't have hands. 

 

- Leareth's mages propose Gating two hundred yards downstream - that's about a minute away, at the rate the current is carrying them - and buying themselves time to get a really good force-net in place, which can catch both of them without injuring them in the process, at which point Blai can smash a hole in the ice for both of them and the mages can help haul them out. 

Can Blai handle another minute of holding his breath and being swept downstream? Seldan thinks he can manage fine - unless he hits a rock badly enough, in which case the force-net should still catch him and hopefully Leareth's people can get him out even if he's unconscious - but the cold is probably affecting Blai more, he's smaller and can't do the Companion thing of converting energy reserves directly into unreasonable quantities of body heat. 

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Blai is not positive he has a whole minute, especially not if something happens to Seldan and he has to cast Stabilize, it has a verbal component. He will try.

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It'll be okay. Even if this goes badly and they both end up injured and unconscious before they hit the force-net, Leareth's people will haul them out of the river and a minute is not long enough to actually die of drowning in cold water and there'll be Healers who can do enough to get Blai able to cast spells and they'll be fine. If Blai sees an opportunity to grab a rock and bash a hole to the surface he should take it and not worry about Seldan, but - fifty seconds now - 

 

They hit the rocky section.

The rocks are very angular and awkwardly shaped for grabbing, and very slippery with algae, and mostly at least a meter below the surface such that it would be hard to whack the surface with a mace while wedged.

Seldan has had the unexpected discovery that he can try to be as buoyant as possible and this works! He ends up basically sliding along the underside of the ice and mostly not coming that near the rocks, though the ice has sharp bits as well and his hide is collecting some nasty scrapes. 

Blai in armor is not buoyant and many of those rocks are directly in his path. 

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He's waiting for the part where he tries to take actions, but this isn't that part. He can curl up in a ball and present armored surfaces to the rocks as much as possible and pray for endurance and presence of mind.

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(On some level, Seldan is scared and upset and part of him feels like this is entirely his fault because he told Blai to keep Forbid Action instead of Endure Elements, and he's intensely frustrated that even having two dozen of Leareth's best people is apparently not good enough to get his Herald out of a freezing river in under a minute, and every time Blai crashes into a rock he's terrified that even if Blai isn't seriously injured it will knock the rest of the breath out of his lungs, and he's furious with the Star-Eyed Goddess who is terrible and should stop existing and - 

- and none of that is helpful and what he needs to do is help Blai stay calm so he can hold his breath longer, and so right now all of it lives in a small corner of him behind his shields, along with the increasingly distracting pain from all the ice-cuts.) 

 

The rest of his mind is entirely with Blai and - he's calm, he's here, they're in this together and Leareth's people are very very competent and it's going to be okay. 

Forty more seconds. 

Thirty seconds. 

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They're past the shallower rockier part now and in a deeper section. Blai still sinks and is near the bottom, four or five yards below the underside of the ice. 

...Sometime in the summer, somewhere upstream, a fisherman lost a net in the river. It swept downstream and eventually part of it got tangled around a rock and has been stretched out along the bottom slowly rotting and growing seaweed on it ever since. 

It's extremely implausible that right now is when an eddy in the river's flow will tug the net free of the bottom just enough for the current to pull the net open, at an angle perfect for Blai to run into it and immediately get thoroughly tangled in it.

What if that happened anyway. 

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The current keeps dragging Seldan along and Blai isn't moving anymore and so they're quickly being pulled further apart and Seldan has no idea what's happening! 

:Blai: He doesn't mentally shout it; he sends it calmly even though this is incredibly hard. :What's happening?: 

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Is this not the force-net? - no, it is a material net. :I'm caught in something.:

Does it give him enough purchase that he can climb up these rocks to be able to reach the ice with his mace.

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Nope! The surface of the ice is pretty far away! 

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What if he takes off his shoe, or pulls the gold wire off the - ow his fingers hurt a lot - the gold wire away from the blade of his sword-and-sun, it'll still work for casting without it, and cut -

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The net is somewhat rotted but it's not that rotted, and there's enough algae grown on the surface of the net-cords that the blade slips sideways unless he pushes it hard at the right angle, which is is difficult with his hands not working that well. It was a very well-made net once. A lot of cords would need to be cut to untangle him fully from it.  

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Seldan is now fifteen seconds away from the force-net. Blai is...still thirty seconds away. He might or might not be able to hold his breath long enough to finish freeing himself, but he probably can't do that and, afterward, continue holding his breath for a bonus thirty seconds plus however long it takes to actually bang a hole in the ice and get to the surface. 

And - it would be just like how their day is going so far for him to almost manage to cut himself free, lose consciousness, and then have the net tear the rest of the way so he's swept away downstream five seconds before Leareth's people would have reached him. And then hit his head on an obstacle he can't avoid. And then get eaten by a river shark– stop it.

:Blai. Leareth's people are sending someone to you. They can get to you where you are if you stay there. They're going to blast a hole in the ice and pull you out. It's going to take over a minute and I don't know if you can keep holding your breath that long but - I need you to stop struggling and hold still. They're coming.: 

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Okay.

He lets the net holds him still.

He closes his eyes and focuses on not letting any of his air out, on staying conscious so he can keep forcing his burning lungs into compliance.

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Another ten seconds pass. 

Twenty seconds. Seldan bounces into the force-net. 

Twenty-five seconds. One of Leareth's mages uses some kind of incredibly tidy force-dagger method to cut a hole in the ice without risking blasting Seldan. He bobs up and pushes his head above the surface and pulls in a lungful of air. 

He can't share the air with Blai but he can pull node-energy and push that across, it might help a little with Blai staying conscious longer. 

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Some of the mages are working on shaping a force-barrier to lift Seldan out of the water. Someone is shielding themselves to go in and try to fish out the two unconscious mages who have now fetched up against the barrier but are pretty hard to actually pull out of the water. 

The others are sprinting upstream, and are now almost in position. 

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What if - 

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What if not that, actually? 

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Six mages are now reaching a point on the bank where they can start working on cutting a hole in the ice and sending a strong swimmer in on a rope to grab Blai and cut him free and pull him to the surface. 

Seldan is out of the water, he's fine (well, he's bleeding pretty significantly from all the cuts and scrapes, but there's a Healer almost there and Companions have a lot of blood they can afford to lose), he's here and waiting for Blai.

Another thirty seconds. Maybe less. 

 

(Blai has now been holding his breath in freezing-cold water for well over a minute, though, and Seldan is aware that at some point it's going to stop being a matter of willpower.) 

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After holding his breath for 102 seconds, Blai loses his grip on consciousness, and that's not going to solve itself, because his reflex to acquire more air even when dying was designed for dying above water.

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Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!!!! It's going to be okay but Seldan hates this so much!!!! 

 

He will allow himself some amount of fantasizing about violently trampling the Star-Eyed Goddess under his hooves. (He assumes is responsible for this, causing a bridge to implausibly pick that moment to fail is the kind of nudge a god could do with a Heartstone nearby and not a problem caused by gryphons.) Most of his attention is on the bond with Blai, though, focusing intently enough to bounce Blai's location to Leareth's mages even though Blai is no longer capable of holding his end of a Mindspeech link. 

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It's been 116 seconds since Blai ended up in the water, and Leareth's people are about to send in someone on a rope through the hole in the ice, when Vanyel - riding Randi's Sondra, she happened to be nearest to where he was - reaches the side of the river, flings himself down from the saddle, sprints over to the hole in the ice, and reaches out. 

Blai isn't a small person, this is going to push his Fetching to the limits, but he thinks he can do it at this range, it's less than five meters - 

 

 

- there.

Vanyel's head is abruptly hurting a great deal, and also Blai, in sodden armor, is abruptly more or less on top of him and pinning him flat to the ice. 

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Leareth's people will scoop Blai up and carry him to the shore of the river as quickly as possible, before they can get unlucky with the ice cracking under them or something - there's a Healer coming, right - 

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Shavri is almost there! They're sending other people too but she's going to get there first, because she borrowed Tran's Companion Delian. 

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WHERE IS HIS HERALD. 

 

Seldan is not enjoying trying to move through the snow with a bruised-or-maybe-broken leg and this would probably be a terrible idea and causing himself much worse injury if he were a normal horse, but he is so not worried about that, Blai can fix both of them as soon as they can get him conscious to channel - 

He meets Leareth's people at the riverbank just as Shavri bounces down from Delian's back. 

:He was underwater for almost two minutes but conscious until maybe twenty seconds ago - is he -?: 

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Possibly Seldan could let her FOCUS so she can try to get a Healing-link up to Blai and then have a look, how about that? 

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INCREDIBLY WORRIED COMPANION who will metaphorically sit on the hands he doesn't have and not interrupt the Healer!!!! 

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Blai is not trying quite as hard to die as a normal person without any circles would be but the difference is smaller, under these conditions.

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Well, he's super unconscious and he's not breathing and his lungs are full of water and he's really cold which is not helping anything, his life-force is moving very sluggishly and is about as faint as you would expect for someone in his condition rather than being weirdly bright, but his heart is still beating and Shavri can, with some concentration, get a link the normal way and start pushing energy through to him.

She rolls him onto his side and smacks him between the shoulder blades and poke, poke, pokes with her Gift. He should cough up some of the water and try breathing. Breathing is pretty great.

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cough cough gasp

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Oh good. Shavri calmly holds the link and pushes Healing-energy at him and keeps prodding until he’s breathing in a more regular pattern. He’s not breathing very well, after inhaling a lot of gritty disgusting river water, but he’s at least getting any air.

She doesn’t especially want to try to move him yet but he’s lying directly on the snow right now and soaking wet and still too deeply unconscious to shiver, which isn’t great. She’s commanding Vanyel’s cloak to roll him onto, and they’ve got all these mages here, though, can someone cast a weather-barrier and use magic to get him dry? 

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They can do that.

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Seldan will curl his body around Blai and radiate body heat at him and WORRY.

:How long until he wakes up? If he’s conscious he can do his Healing magic -:

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Shavri has no idea! She would still be pretty worried about whether he was going to survive this at all if she didn’t have previous observations of him being a weirdly resilient person because of the god-magic. 

She will keep sending him energy and see what happens.

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Blai is going to find himself in a strange empty white place where nothing hurts — where nothing can hurt, either physically or emotionally.

(This is, from the perspective of the Shadow-Lover, not actually required. It wasn’t that close a call, really, there’s no intervention required by the Shadow-Lover avatar to send this soul back. But the soul did brush near enough to the twilight area between life and death that the Shadow-Lover can step in; it’s not unprecedented to do this, when the soul in question is a Herald, it can be within the Shadow-Lover’s remit.)

A petite woman wearing Heralds’ Whites that look oddly undetailed, like an unfinished painting, stands across from him. Dark brown hair falls across a face hidden in shadow, though the shadow somehow doesn’t conceal her piercing blue eyes.

“Herald Blai. There is information you ought to have.”

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"- is this expensive for Iomedae, You mustn't do anything expensive for Iomedae -"

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“It is not. We would ask no price of anyone. This is simply a place to talk, and a time to think where no pressing matters will intrude.” A pause; there’s a sense of something shifting behind that shadowed face, distant and inhuman, putting together words.

“The Star-Eyed Goddess paid a great deal for the events to arrange this meeting,” the Shadow-Lover says eventually, carefully, “and achieved little of Her own aims.”

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"Oh. ...well, that's good, then. - is Seldan all right?"

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“Yes. - you will be going back, in a little while, unless you would prefer not to. Seldan is waiting for you.”

Another pause, the sense of distant alien concepts being shuffled into a sentence. “It costs Us little to offer this when a soul passes through the shadow, and cannot be offered at all at other times.”

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"...do you want to be able to talk to people more often?"

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There is the sense that something in there is perhaps an especially difficult concept to translate back and forth.

“..It would change many paths, if that were possible.”

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"If the problem is just that you need someone to be dead for a moment Breath of Life is the same circle as Commune and this seems higher-bandwidth."

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Something like a nod.

“…There is one soul We have never seen to pass through the shadow. There is information that soul ought have, if it were to pass through this place, but it never has.”

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"...who, Leareth? Because he's immortal?"

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(The Shadow-Lover does not know people’s names unless it’s the name of the soul the Shadow-Lover is talking to at a particular moment, and even then “knowing” might not be the best word. Blai knows it, and is here, but it’s a less obvious translation than the Companion who was sent at this soul yesterday.)

”The one that returns to the world again and again, and has turned its back on all the gods.”

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"...should I assume that it would be prohibitively expensive to confirm more exactly?"

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This also seems to be puzzling to the Shadow-Lover.

“You have crossed paths with this soul. …You saw a path through the darkness, that was narrow but could have been walked. It could have been wider, if - it was information We could have given.”

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"It sounds like you mean Leareth and I will operate under that assumption unless corrected."

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The Shadow-Lover does not provide any correction.

“There are other paths, if you are here, but We cannot see so far to steer.”

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"Paths to what?"

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Another moment of distant translation - the sense that the Shadow-Lover is searching Blai for some way to cross a communication gulf.

“To change the game.” 

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"Iomedae is having a difficult year but I believe Her reputed ability to make herself well-understood in visions is just a property of Her having once been human. You could try talking to Cayden Cailean and see if He has any advice for You."

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A nod.

“Is there a message you would pass to your goddess, if no price were asked of Her for it?”

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"...it's not expensive in that direction, I tell Her things all the time, the expensive thing is Her talking to mortals."

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“Interesting. It is different here.”

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"Is there something You would like to know as long as I'm here?"

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Another strange thoughtful pause.


“What do you steer for?” the avatar of a god says to him.

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"...I steer for Iomedae's values as I understand them. Law, Good, peace, prosperity, the efficient application of resources toward these aims, the establishment of precedents and institutions that will cultivate them going forward."

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Puzzled. “What is Law?”

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"Law is about making and keeping commitments. It has many possible implementations but Iomedae's focuses on honesty, trustworthiness, the possibility of cooperation, abiding by promises and treaties and using that reliability to be more appealing to treat with at all. ...If you're using prophecy to see, it would probably look like things that certain people cannot be steered into or at least are unusually difficult to steer into, especially if those tendencies arise at a specific point in their lives when they make a decision as opposed to arising over time as they develop a preference."

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It’s unclear how well the Shadow-Lover is following but they certainly seem to be listening intently.

“The immortal one. Who you called Leareth. Is - the way he cannot be steered - the thing that is Law?”

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"- maybe! He is Lawful, I checked that."

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“He is very strange. He wishes to change the rules of the game, and this is frightening.” 

Another pause. “The others would prefer that he were not in the world. But We can play a different game, if that is a path that can be followed. That is what you can tell him, if you wish.”

A hint of frustration, or something like it but more alien. “There is more information that is relevant to his choice. We cannot say it to you, only to him, if he were to come for a time into the shadows. It is - difficult to say things to mortals.” 

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"I... do not think he will want to do that. Why is it that you can say it to him but not to me?"

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The Shadow-Lover seems to spend a long time considering this. Considering Blai, as though examining him from a dozen strange angles.

Effortfully:

“We see the effect on you. That is what information does, it has an effect. But there is information in him that is not in you to be seen, and so We cannot see what to say if it is to be said to him.”

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"Would it help if I promise to relay it as exactly as possible to - mimic a direct missive?"

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“Maybe. If you wish to try.”

Another pause.

“We cannot see what he steers for, but - if it is the other world, We steer for that as well. That is information he should have.”

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"I'll tell him."

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“We cannot see what effect that will have, but - if he sees more then it will be good.”

The sense of a smile behind the shadow. “You have the information you need. You can rest here, if you wish, that is something this place offers that can have effects.”

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"Thank you."

It's nice here. Thoughts rain through his mind and none of them are acid. Just him and a small woman who is also a god who is having a hard time learning to talk.

"And thank you for Seldan."

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“You are welcome.

 

- would you like a hug.” That is sometime else the Shadow-Lover understands to have effects! A lot of things about souls are very confusing but that part they kind of understand.

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Blai is not sure what the point of hugs is.

...he's pretty sure this god also doesn't know what the point of hugs is, which makes it much less awkward.

"All right."

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The Shadow-Lover understands hugs and rest in a place where nothing hurts better than a lot of other things! Everyone needs to have different new information and is affected differently by it, but the souls that come here are affected in a fairly consistent and predictable way by being offered rest and hugs!

It’s a very good hug! Cozy and comforting and with all of the weird awkward bits left out, and - like even more of the thing where this place is quiet and peaceful and it’s impossible for thoughts to be acid.

The Shadow-Lover smells nice, apparently. 

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How edifying about the point of hugs this is!

Is there anything else he needs to think about here in the time-dilated demiplane...

"- can souls here make it to Golarion afterlives?"

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The Shadow-Lover doesn’t pause this time. Apparently the god has already considered it.

“We believe they would not be prevented. If a god of your world had greater remit than any of the gods here, which has never happened before.” 

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"So mine would go on and you're just - borrowing it? - what about Seldan -"

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“I cannot see directly. If it is true that you can say things to your goddess easily, and he wishes Her to have remit — We would not contest it.”

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"...Iomedae doesn't so far as I'm aware manage soul destinations directly, that's Pharasma's department. If you can bypass that and hand off souls directly to Iomedae - or other gods - that might be very very important."

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“We know very little about how your world works. Why does Pharasma have first remit over all souls, even when they do not follow Her?”

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"She's the Creator and also the goddess of death and Judgment. I'm actually very confused about why She's letting your soul-recycling program here function, I would have guessed She'd object, has She not commented at all?"

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“She has never communicated anything to any gods of this world, that We know.”

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"Huh. I guess She lets Malediction exist and this might not be qualitatively different to Her.

The gods I would be inclined to recommend to You to speak with would be Iomedae if She is available, Cayden Cailean, who I already mentioned, Desna, of travel and dreams and the stars, Sarenrae, of redemption and the sun, Shelyn, of love and art, and Abadar, of trade. Not necessarily in that order. Maybe also Erastil, farming and hunting. If it helps to find them, they dwell in afterlife planes - Elysium for Cayden and Desna, Nirvana for Sarenrae and Shelyn, Heaven for Iomedae and Erastil, Axis for Abadar. If you have any experience of souls - flowing? - before you catch them, we call the mechanism that delivers souls to Judgment the 'river of souls' - that would lead to the Boneyard, the Neutral afterlife where Pharasma dwells, which I would expect to have a relatively direct connection to the other eight afterlives. I recommend against attracting attention from the Evil afterlives and less strongly against it with the Chaotic Neutral one."

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The Shadow-Lover seems to be cataloguing all of this very carefully, in addition to continuing to hug Blai.

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"The reason it might be important if you can pass souls directly to specific gods is that Judgment often sends people to the Evil afterlives and even Evil people should not go there. Nirvana wants them. I don't know how much the other decent afterlives want people who don't sort there when judged, but Nirvana will take them all."

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"That is important," the Shadow-Lover agrees. "...Why does Judgment do that?" 

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"Pharasma prefers to send people to afterlives matching their alignment. I don't know why She prefers this."

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"How strange." The Shadow-Lover mostly seems confused, insofar as emotions come through legibly at all from the god's avatar, but - definitely does not seem to approve. 

 

(If Blai is still not objecting to being hugged then he will continue to be so thoroughly hugged. The Shadow-Lover thinks that part is important.)

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One of the many things Blai doesn't know about hugs is how long it's normal for them to last!

"Is there any more detail Leareth should know about how You're steering for contact with Golarion - if I understood you correctly to mean that -"

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Detail is so hard! Especially indirectly. 

This is important, though, and the Shadow-Lover will spend a long time (insofar as that means anything in the place mostly outside time) considering it. 

...The Shadow-Lover can see Blai, more clearly, at least right now while Blai's soul is here. 

 

"The Star-Eyed Goddess and Vkandis oppose this, but We can steer that Their distractions cost Them more than They gain. The path is straighter if he is not steered by Their distractions." 

Another long pause. 

"There is...a tool of the Star-Eyed Goddess...a soul who was important and is now removed from Her gameboard. That soul could help, but will not, unless the path is changed further than We can see." 

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"...Brightstar?"

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The Shadow-Lover seems to be trying this on. 

"He would have destroyed Leareth. You stopped him." 

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"...I think that's Brightstar, yes. Can You hear prayers by people who are properly alive such that people could be updating You with information as it becomes known to us?"

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Another thoughtful pause. 

"Most mortals are not close enough to Foresight. Companions are." 

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"So I could be asking Seldan to give You situation reports?"

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"You could." 

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"I will try to remember that on top of the message for Leareth, then.

Will resurrecting Yfandes and the dead kyree work?"

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This gets confusion again!

Eventually, "- We have remit over the soul of Companions. We would not interfere." 

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"...who has the kyree?"

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More sense of shuffling, as though the Shadow-Lover is putting an unusual amount of effort into figuring out what Blai means, and then even more effort into piecing together an answer. 

"In Valdemar they call Him Kernos." 

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"Can Kernos hear prayers? Do You know if He has any interests contrary to allowing their resurrections?"

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"...He could hear from those under His remit who stand close to Foresight. The actions of Vkandis are contrary to His interests and reversing them ought not be." 

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"I will try suggesting that surviving kyree pray to Him about it, then."

He's starting to be concerned that he won't be able to retain all this information cleanly to report on it once he returns to the Material, so while this is fascinating and comfortable he should probably not stay here chatting forever.

"Is there anything else I should know or that You would like to ask?"

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"There is more information, but if We cannot see yet that it would be relevant to you or to Us, then it cannot be translated. There is a path, though We cannot see the end of it." 

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"All right. I will tell the kyree that Kernos has their dead; I will tell Leareth that You want him to know that You are also steering for Golarion and that if he sees more it will be good; I will tell Seldan that You will be able to get something out of situation reports from him. If that is all the major information I am ready to return."

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Then the Shadow-Lover will hug Blai for a moment longer and then send him back to his body, which is unfortunately going to be a much less pleasant place to be right now than the Shadow-Lover's realm. 

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Seldan is there, and is forcibly keeping a lid on his level of freaking out because he wants to be in full rapport with Blai as soon as Blai shows the slightest sign of waking up. 

(He mentally yelled a lot at Leareth's people to drag the other mages who ended up in the water within thirty feet of Blai, so they'll be included whenever Blai wakes up enough to channel. They're both in much worse shape than Blai, being unconscious and submerged for a couple of minutes is pretty bad for people, but hopefully as long as they're not actually entirely dead, it'll be enough?) 

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OH right he was drowning. Channeling has no verbal or somatic components; he flails for his holy symbol and pulls positive energy through it.

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Seldan is no longer bleeding, or suffering from a possibly-broken leg that he just sprinted a hundred yards on over slippery ground and now; he's pretty much back to perfect health.

He's also SO INCREDIBLY RELIEVED and not trying to avoid projecting this intensely at Blai. He's also still trying to curl his entire body around Blai. They're outside in the snow, a few yards from the river, but there's a weather barrier and the air is almost up to a normal room-temperature, and Blai's clothes are steaming from a heat-spell and only a little damp. There's a strong smell of wet horse. 

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...Wow, Shavri can see now why Seldan was so adamant that they just needed to get him conscious! One moment she had just gotten to the point of feeling like he was definitely improving rather than deteriorating, but it still felt iffy enough that she really didn't want to let go of the Healing-link even long enough to rush him through a Gate inside.

And then there was a blaze of something that wasn't actually Healing-energy and looked incredibly odd to her Sight, and now he's...fine? Not fully back to his usual robust health, she doesn't think, but if she saw someone in the House of Healing who looked like that, he would go at the bottom of the priority list and get fobbed off on a trainee. 

She lets go of his shoulder and backs off, in case he's waking up disoriented. Vanyel often doesn't react well if he wakes up after a serious injury with someone touching him. 

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He sits up, sort of at a weird angle to remain close to his nice warm Companion. :I spoke to the Shadow-Lover -: And he tries to remember it all at Seldan as clearly as he can because he thinks Seldan has a better memory than he does.

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That's what Companions are for!  

Seldan will stomp very hard on the temptation to start freaking out again because his Herald came close enough to dying to talk to the Shadow-Lover aaaaah! It's fine, Blai is fine, it's just that this was incredibly stressful and he's unendorsedly mad that Leareth didn't think to send them someone who could cast unscaffolded Gates underwater with enough speed and precision to have just squirted Blai out through one of those in the first ten seconds. That's a sufficiently absurd thing to be able to do that possibly only Leareth can do it and there are 5847843 reasons it would be stupid for Leareth to personally show up in Haven to guard Blai, where "everything that just happened" is an excellent demonstration of those reasons, AND YET.

(These thoughts are in the background but not entirely hidden behind shields. Seldan can't actually spend the next five years concealing all the ways that Blai is important to him and threats to Blai are upsetting just because Blai is not totally comfortable with being loved by someone.) 

 

...Huh, the Shadow-Lover is not very good at communicating but is...clearly making an effort? And his sense is that that was actually a more productive conversation than Vanyel's usual experience; he wonders if the Shadow-Lover was benefiting from the fact that Blai's world has more state-of-the-art for communication with gods. 

Message for Leareth, got it. Vanyel already suspected that the Shadow-Lover had been steering for something other than Leareth's permanent death, and the - adversarialness - of that plot is probably explained by the fact that apparently the Shadow-Lover god can't talk to Leareth at all because Their communication interface can only reach dying people and Leareth doesn't die hard enough to count. 

The god is in favor of them reaching Golarion - that's very good to know, Vanyel had hoped They would be but wasn't sure - 

The god has Yfandes and isn't inclined to interfere with bringing her back, that's good, he's very glad they know that. The kyree god is Kernos - does Seldan know any facts about Kernos - it's not a well-organized church like Vkandis has but there are martial orders, Kernos is popular in the northern half of Valdemar, he thinks Kernos has ever been known to give people miraculous fighting ability to defend people they care about though he doesn't get the sense it was ever very targeted... 

Souls aren't actively unable to reach Golarion afterlives from here, it's just that it's not the standard destination if a Velgarth god has remit, that's interesting... 

Seldan can maybe get messages to the Shadow-Lover! That's really interesting! Because he's...closer to Foresight...ohhhh he thinks he sees how, now...wouldn't have occurred to him to try it otherwise, but mostly because he wouldn't have assumed the god was paying active enough attention to act on anything he tried to communicate... 

 

Awwwwww Blai got a hug. And liked it! Awwwwwww. That almost makes this feel worth it. 

Seldan definitely getting the sense that the Shadow-Lover god allowed the Star-Eyed to intervene for this to happen - maybe They were counter-intervening just a little at the end, it was a coincidence in their favor that Vanyel was close enough to be there within two minutes, but They let the bridge collapse happen because the Star-Eyed was paying for it but it was incidentally quite convenient for the Shadow-Lover's god if Blai could almost die. Maybe that wasn't actually unfriendly, maybe this is literally the closest to friendly that the god can manage, but also SELDAN IS KIND OF MAD. NO ONE IS ALLOWED TO DROWN HIS HERALD.

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It's actually an amazing deal if somebody only almost dying costs a hostile god a lot AND gets them, like, that has to be at least five Communes worth of information because Blai didn't have to render everything into yes-or-no questions, that's an incredible bargain! Blai is fine! And maybe tomorrow he'll be able to hang a second freely-allocated third circle spell too!

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Fiiiiiiiiiiine. If the mysterious Shadow-Lover's god can make the Star-Eyed Goddess waste a lot of Her resources on attempts to kill people that don't work, and get conversations with those people in the bargain, that's - in fact pretty clever. And maybe it only looked like a terrifyingly close call to them and not to the god. 

 

Seldan is still poking at Blai's memory of the conversation, before it gets any hazier. Huh. Something about Brightstar...tool of the Star-Eyed Goddess, that part is obvious...could help? Won't be willing is obvious, but it's intriguing if Brightstar has the capability to help with travel to Golarion - actually, maybe that's not so surprising, he's the one who found Leareth's immortality hideout that the gods themselves had been unable to do anything about for millennia, that's got to be an indication that he's bloody brilliant at planar magic. 

...He wonders if they could convince Leareth to have a near-death experience somewhere the Shadow-Lover can reach him. Is there a way to make it low-risk? Blai doesn't have the Breath of Life spell but he does have Stabilize and Seldan thinks he probably wasn't too far gone for it to have worked, if someone else had cast it on him the moment they hauled him out of the water? And that seems much more like something that Should Just Work - and has fewer surfaces vulnerable to Star-Eyed interference - than Velgarth Healing, where a Healer can definitely get more or less lucky. They might have to do some terrifying experiments to be sure of how close to dying someone can come and still have it definitely work...

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Blai doesn't think that Leareth would be remotely convinced to try this, and, like, he could definitely be interrupted at stabilizing somebody if anything happened to his hands or his voice or his focus. If more people want to try it he's okay to stand by casting Stabilize but it can actually be pretty hard to get people precisely dying-not-dead (source: torture class) on purpose.

Maybe Brightstar would be moved by the possibility that eventually he could get some of his family True Resurrected? That's what it would take, with the remains obliterated, but he's young and capable and could take on various jobs for the church of Abadar and save up for a long time and there's probably lots of diamond arbitrage to do. ...the Star-Eyed probably has all their souls, Blai doesn't know if She'd be motivated to keep hold of them in this circumstance.

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That indeed sounds like something Leareth would understandably not be convinced to risk! It - seems like it would probably actually go fine, if it's true that the Shadow-Lover's god wants to communicate more effectively with Leareth and does not want Leareth dead, and thus would be nudging for that, but - since the whole problem is that Leareth doesn't know that for sure because the god has never once been able to communicate Their intentions to him, that seems unlikely to help in convincing him. 

 

That does sound like a conversation someone should absolutely try having with Brightstar. One way or another, really, he deserves to know it's a possibility.

It's almost certainly not enough to get him to work with Leareth on achieving contact with Golarion sooner if he still thinks Leareth is the one who killed his parents in the first place, which - makes sense, the Shadow-Lover didn't claim to see any actual paths where getting his help was possible, and just...wanted them to know that Brightstar could hypothetically help?

Which is actually pretty interesting, if the Shadow-Lover can only communicate things where the act of communicating it to someone results in an effect on them visible in Foresight. That implies that there are things they can do differently if they know this, and - no, he's still not sure where to go with that, it just seems like it might be important. 

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Possibly Brightstar could help because he has relevant training or tools and someone else could pick up the same?

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Possibly! He may be the only Tayledras Healing-Adept with training at the White Winds school. Jisa probably knows more about the exact extent of Brightstar's unusual abilities, though if Jisa herself had the same abilities or tools you would think the Shadow-Lover would have said so. 

…Does Blai maybe want to go inside? Seldan’s first inclination had been to get Blai out of Haven the instant he was stable enough to move through a Gate, but actually Blai is fine and Seldan is also fine and - maybe Haven is a terrifying place to be, but if that's the worst the Star-Eyed can do even working through the Heartstone, it might not actually be too dangerous to justify staying? Also it's barely been five minutes, they could sneak in for the Nap Stack. Seldan is absolutely not letting himself be separated from Blai for it but maybe he can pull rank and claim a less desirable spot for both of them. 

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It's possible the Shadow-Lover couldn't say so, She had some peculiar blocks in how she talked and maybe "Jisa" was unsayable.

A Nap in the Stack sounds good. It'll help him heal off the rest of the damage, too.

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That sounds like a good plan, then. They might not quite get a full two candlemarks but if any sleep there counts for four times as much, that should still be pretty good. Seldan can kneel so Blai has an easier time climbing onto his back if he's still feeling a bit banged up. 

(Leareth's mages circle up closely around them.) 

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Blai's still a little banged up but it's not like he can't bend his knees just because they're banged up or anything. Up onto Seldan he goes.

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Look, Seldan is aware that Blai is very tough and doesn't need Seldan to be extra overprotective for the next few candlemarks, but Seldan is finding it soothing to be doing that anyway. 

 

Someone else Mindspeaks him. He has a brief conversation and then returns his attention to Blai. 

:...One of Leareth's people didn't make it. Two of them fell in with us when the bridge collapsed, they were unconscious - the force-net caught them and I made sure they were in the channel radius, I thought - as long as they weren't actually dead - but I guess it was too late. ...I don't know which god would have caught him.: It might have been nice if the Shadow-Lover had said something but it's not like Blai could possibly have known to ask. 

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:...well, if Leareth might pay to get them back the body should be stored somewhere. I was planning to spend the Gentle Repose on Yfandes after the nap though.:

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:That makes sense. I’ll tell them. I think Leareth would agree on Yfandes being higher priority.:

He’s quiet in Blai’s head the rest of the way to the stables. They were, conveniently, on the correct side of the river and didn’t need to detour to a different bridge. (Seldan might have insisted on literally Gating across the river instead if they had.)

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In the stables Blai is quite relieved to pull his armor off and snuggle up with Seldan for a Nap.

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Seldan snuggles his Herald, who is very good and very important and who he loves very very much.

He doesn't need a full eight candlemarks of sleep per night anyway, so he'll do a few minutes of Mindspeech logistics to make sure Yfandes' body will be made available without Blai having to go out of his way. He half-suspects it's a good idea to transport her body north at some point - Leareth has the best security - but for now Blai is here and not up north and it seems like probably the Shadow-Lover god will not let the Star-Eyed Goddess burn down Haven and destroy her remains. 

 

After half a candlemark he sleeps as well. 

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They're coming in slightly less than two hours before the end of the spell. The spell's end doesn't wake anyone up by itself; if you want a few more minutes, nothing stops you, they're just minutes that take minutes instead of minutes that take seconds. Blai has slightly embarrassing dreams about the Shadow-Lover and then wakes up, stretches, and checks to see if his armor padding is dry enough to be a good idea to put back on.

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They crowded a lot of people into the last round of the Nap Stack – the Heralds were more conservative in the first few blocks, since crowding more people in risked someone rolling over in their sleep and waking someone else, but by this point all the senior people had already gotten their sleep. Some junior Heralds crowded in minus Companions, since the Companions weather fatigue better, and a lot of the Healers and trainees were piled in four or five people to a stall and are now picking themselves up looking much more cheerful. 

Blai's armor is basically dry! The mage who cast a heat-spell on his clothes while he was unconscious didn't want to push too hard and risk burning him, but they got it more than halfway dry and two candlemarks in a nice warm dry stable was enough for it to dry the rest of the way. 

Seldan is almost obnoxiously cheery. :They've got Yfandes in the stillroom behind the House of Healing, if you wanted to go do the spell now.:

Vanyel apparently wanted a few minutes with her, if "with her" can possibly be the right word for it, but he's probably done having face-screamy feelings now– yep, confirmed he's gone to meet with Savil again and talk about plans to shut down the Web.

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Blai gets his armor on in a few minutes and then they can go hit the corpse with a Gentle Repose, then!

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No buildings collapse on them on the ride over, which does not involve crossing any bridges such that Seldan would feel a need to object that they should short-range Gate instead. 

 

The Healers' stillroom is unheated and very cold, which is what you want for storing corpses. The large work table most recently held the Changecreature's corpse and has been cleaned since then but is still faintly stained with ichor in a few places. 

Yfandes' body is puddled on it. Her legs are visibly broken and her neck is in an unnatural position. There's a little blood, dried now. 

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"Gentle Repose."

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Did it work? Seldan is watching from the open door and isn't sure if it's supposed to look like anything for it to work. 

 

(Poor Vanyel. He's trying not to be obtrusively sad about it where Blai has to interact with that, but - poor Vanyel.) 

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It doesn't look like anything, but her body won't decay any more than it already has in the next few days.

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Neat. 

 

No update yet from Dara on the negotiations with Iftel, but this is a case where Seldan thinks no news is tentatively good news. Valdemar isn't expecting to hear back from Treven in Rethwellan until at least tomorrow. 

...What's next on their agenda? Seldan remembers Blai wanting to talk to Herald Joshel about interplanetary currency evaluation and cost of scrolls, which doesn't seem urgent but he's now caught up on rest and is probably available. Also Vanyel and Savil have been discussing what it would take to shut down the Heartstone, and - it seems like they should do this sooner rather than later, but they're worried about the Star-Eyed Goddess escalating Her efforts to stop them and aren't sure what precautions they ought to consider taking, does Blai have any thoughts on that? 

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Blai has no idea what precautions they should take, he barely knows what a Heartstone is or does. On general principle he'd recommend plenty of redundancy, and consulting Leareth - do they have a way to talk to him yet? - and evacuating anyone the Star-Eyed seems to have it in for, like, uh, Blai himself.

Talking to Joshel isn't urgent but it would be nice to have a ballpark idea of how much all the diamonds are going to cost.

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It sounds like Vanyel now has no difficulty contacting Leareth with the communications-artifacts! In hindsight it looks like the Star-Eyed never had the ability to interfere via the Web and the problem was entirely that Brightstar had been able to narrow down Leareth's location in the kyree caves enough to cut off communication in or out of them specifically. Their tentative plan is to evacuate the King and Senior Circle and Council and some other key personnel like the senior Healers (and, yes, Blai) to outside of Haven entirely, and then evacuate everyone else to at least a half-mile away from the relevant building, which is out of range of everything Leareth thinks can go wrong apart from the Heartstone fully losing containment. They think they cannot realistically evacuate the entire population of Haven to more than twenty miles away. This is mainly going to be very dangerous for the Herald-Mages who have to be physically in the room with the Heartstone - especially Vanyel who will be doing the heavy lifting - and for the people Leareth is volunteering to provide shielding and feed Vanyel node-energy and be on call to try to get him out if he succeeds but is seriously injured in the process. They're tentatively planning on tomorrow morning, since Vanyel gave himself backlash getting Blai out of the river and also skipped the Nap Stack so would really benefit from a proper night's sleep first. 

 

Joshel is available! He's invited Blai to come to his office, but Seldan won't fit and is not yet feeling very ready to be separated from Blai, so how about they instead meet in this other Work Room that has a door big enough for a Companion to fit through. 

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Well, if Seldan insists.

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Seldan insists! He'll probably stop feeling a need to insist by tomorrow, if they get to tomorrow with nothing else horrible happening, but it's not like it's particularly out of Joshel's way and this particular Work Room has furniture in it at the moment (albeit the kind of rickety wooden furniture you use if you think it might get exploded by mage-experiments and don't want it to be something you're attached to.) 

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Herald Joshel will come meet them!

He thanks Blai warmly for the Nap Stack, and then - what's a good place to start for figuring out how Valdemaran currency converts to costs in Blai's world? He has a reference table of the most recent standard costs in Valdemar's coin for various goods and usual wages for various unskilled or more skilled work, but that doesn't actually answer the question of how much it would cost Valdemar to purchase Golarion magic. He heard gemstones might be relevant but would need more information on that. Valdemar's government has not previously had much reason to make arrangements with gem-merchants. 

(Valdemar's government is not actually that wealthy, especially right now.) 

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Blai can try to Mindspeak the weights of diamonds necessary for various relevant spells - so big for a Raise Dead, bigger for a Resurrection, huge for a True Resurrection or Wish. Sometimes other kinds of gems are relevant but diamonds are the big one. Standard Absalom-pounds coin weights in gold, silver, and copper are thus and this is how much you'd pay for diamonds like that in gold.

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They can obtain diamonds in those sizes? It's really weird that diamonds specifically are magically active or something, they don't have that here! (You can use diamonds as a focus for artifacts but you can also just use quartz, diamonds aren't really superior.) 

 

...Diamonds are less expensive than that here, reckoned by weight of gold. Diamonds are much less expensive than that here! Joshel is not entirely sure of his conclusion here, since he's not sure he's ever arranged to purchase diamonds out of Valdemar's funds, but he's pretty sure? Especially since jewelers who buy uncut diamonds from gem-mines surely pay less for them than the jewelry ends up costing, which is what he's thinking of.

Diamonds still aren't cheap and he doubts Valdemar could realistically afford, like, dozens of the biggest kind? But Leareth, whose organization definitely has the infrastructure to Gate all over the continent and arrange transactions directly with the proprietors of diamond mines, almost certainly could. 

Joshel himself is not someone who owns much jewelry, but Lady Treesa alone probably has several of the Raise Dead size just in her personal jewelry collection. 

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Blai suspected they might be less expensive here! They should definitely talk to some Abadarans as soon as they get transit between Golarion and Velgarth. The Abadarans will also be able to point out particularly lucrative ways to use Velgarth magic on Golarion, and they can get paid in gold and spend it on cheap diamonds here.

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What are "Abadarans"? Joshel is very curious about that. 

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:Abadar is the god of trade. Lawful Neutral. His clerics run all of the good banks, other people try but they're worse at it. They issue insurance and do trustworthy neutral arbitration and they're all the sort of person who will be terrifically excited to figure out how to arbitrage the existence of another accessible planet with different magic.:

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What a weirdly excellent sort of god! Joshel is about as religious as average for a Herald, i.e. not particularly, but he would go to that god's temple for sure. Maybe even every week. Banks are important! 

Does Blai have any other questions for him? 

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No, but he appreciates this fact about Joshel. Abadarans are great. When he got picked up by Iomedae he didn't know at first Who'd grabbed him and he tried Abadar but in spite of his great respect for Abadarans Blai is not really cut out to be one.

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Well, Blai - and his goddess - also seem pretty excellent, but Joshel will look forward to meeting the Abadarans! And have someone let Lady Treesa know that her jewelry collection might be of great value to the Kingdom, she'll love that. There are probably other court ladies with jewelry collections but none of them are Vanyel's mother. 

He thanks Blai and goes back to his other work. 

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Is his second channel wanted anywhere today? Or should he and Seldan just settle down in the stable and read more Acts till Blai thinks he could fit in some more catchup-sleep.

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It doesn't sound like there's a pressing need for his second channel now and Blai should hold onto it in case there's some kind of emergency in the middle of the night. 

 

Seldan is going to make sure the specific details about diamond sizes are passed on to Leareth's mages, which seems like a more efficient way of getting the information to Leareth than relaying to Savil via Kellan and having her tell Vanyel (now that it's not an emergency he's been avoiding Mindspeaking Vanyel directly out of respect for the fact that a Companion who isn't Yfandes talking to him is probably an unpleasant reminder of his loss.) 

And then, yes, why don't they settle down in the stable and read more Acts until Blai gets tired again. Possibly at some point they should also discuss what spells it makes sense for him to get for tomorrow. 

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Not another Nap Stack, presumably, since they got everybody high-priority through the one and it eats a pillow every time. At least one Gentle Repose, and maybe more? Do they want more prophecies?

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Nap Stack indeed seems like a lower priority. At least one Gentle Repose seems good, it turns out Resurrection diamonds may not be that hard to come by but there's presumably also the cost of the spell requiring a more powerful cleric. The prophecy spell has seemed useful every single time it's come up so one of those seems pretty good. Spells that could help him defend himself or Seldan if more godplots happen here might be nice, though in fact Leareth's mages plus the Shadow-Lover god's intervention were sufficient that it went fine and was just STRESSFUL. 

...Depending what exactly Lesser Restoration helps with in terms of chronic problems, it might be worth trying on Kilchas or Sandra? Who are currently not robust enough to be able to help Savil and Vanyel with the Heartstone, but they're the main other experienced Herald-Mages and Leareth thinks it would be safer with four people than two. (His own people aren't keyed to the Heartstone, and can provide backup but not directly involve themselves in the process of shutting it down.) 

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If he doesn't need his third circle slot for anything else he was going to try curing Sandra's blindness. Lesser Restoration isn't good with old age, are these old-age related problems?

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Sandra's condition is unrelated to age - she's younger than Vanyel - the blindness isn't actually a problem for mage-work, but the same injury badly damaged her lungs and as a result she has very poor stamina and is quickly exhausted by intensive magic use. 

Kilchas is also not actually that old - around sixty, he's almost twenty years younger than Savil - but he has a bad heart, which is a vaguely old-age-related problem even if plenty of old people have perfectly good hearts. 

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Blai would tentatively expect the Lesser Restoration to help Sandra's lungs and not Kilchas's heart, but if testing it is the best use of his second circle spells (it trades off against prophecies and Owl's) he can prep it twice.

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Owl’s Wisdom also sounds like it’s been very useful -  depending on how long it lasts, actually, it might be worth timing it to cast on Vanyel just before Gating him back in to shut down the Heartstone, it’s a difficult working and any edge they can get will help. If Lesser Restoration probably won’t work on Kilchas then it seems worth preparing one for Sandra but not trading off against Owl’s Wisdom.

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He didn't wind up casting his Owl's today, so he doesn't have to prep that, just not drop it. It'll last five, maybe six, minutes.

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Oh neat. Does that mean he can get more total spells tomorrow because he saved some from today, or just that it costs his goddess a little less because She only has to replenish the new ones?

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The second thing, plus it will take a little less than an hour.

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Got it. 

 

...More Acts now? 

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More Acts now.

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More Acts!

(Also more snuggling, and more quietly appreciating how great his Herald is.) 

 

And eventually they can sleep. 

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Blai wakes up with the dawn. He starts bending the wire sun back into place on his symbol while he prays. He proposes that Iomedae get in touch with the Velgarth gods, or pass on the opportunity to someone else; it seems high-value. He's not sure that all the resurrections he's been proposing are efficient uses of resources but they seem to him justifiable on the grounds that a) he certainly didn't promise to pay for them, just mentioned that it was possible to do and b) many of the losses were incurred in the course of dealing with events that may have been downstream of Blai's presence, even if he couldn't have strictly speaking prevented them.

He - can't hang another third circle spell, alas. Well, he wants a Remove Blindness, and a Lesser Restoration, and he'll keep the Owl's, and a Gentle Repose, and a Minor Prophecy. And an AIR BUBBLE. And an Endure Elements. And a Liberating Command. And a Summon Monster I. He is very much prepping for yesterday's emergency but it was quite the emergency.

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Well, they did learn that river-related emergencies in particular are something Leareth's mages are less than perfectly prepared to protect Blai from! They got somewhat unlucky in the timing - if they'd been quicker they could have caught them in a force-net before they hit the water - but it didn't take very much bad luck. 

 

They should go have breakfast, and then try Healing Sandra, and - then maybe it makes sense to use the Minor Prophecy on either Vanyel or Savil, to find out if the Heartstone is going to be a disaster? Seldan isn't sure they have...much of a choice...about trying it, but they could decide to try evacuating a wider radius first. 

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That sounds like a fine itinerary... if it's a disaster perhaps they should be trying to... parley with the Star-Eyed somehow?

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Vanyel thought that wasn't a possibility - but also Seldan heard from Kellan that Vanyel has spoken to Her before, was apparently able to get Her attention via a Heartstone, and it doesn't sound like that went disastrously? Just unproductively? 

...Blai seemed better at communicating with the Shadow-Lover than Vanyel, maybe because of context his world has on how mortals can expect to communicate with gods, but Seldan does not particularly feel like risking Blai in case this time does go disastrously, and also the Heartstone method might not work for him at all since he's not Gifted. 

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They could ask Brightstar?

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Seldan's first thought is that there's no way that goes well! Wasn't Vanyel pretty sure that the prophecy with the Heartstone in Haven would have involved Brightstar exploding it on purpose???

 

...The situation is different now, though. It's not like there's a good reason for the Star-Eyed to want thousands of random civilian residents of Haven dead when this does very little to harm Leareth.

The Shadow-Lover's god only started intervening helpfully after Vanyel attempted more direct communication. Maybe the Star-Eyed really just can't see very well what She's doing, because Blai is a force coming in from outside.

You would think the Shadow-Lover god could talk to the Star-Eyed Goddess, but - maybe They've actually been content let Her keep futilely burning resources because it gives Them a relative advantage for Her to be weaker after all this is over. There was at least some implication of that in the conversation with Blai. 

Persuading Brightstar to help seems nontrivial, but - if Leareth can think of some kind of concession to offer the Star-Eyed, maybe communicating that would achieve something?

 

 

- this is a whole lot of speculation and probably they should just see what the prophecy shows and then decide what to do about it.  

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The thing they need is a way to talk to Her; Blai's not seeing an incentive for Brightstar to decline to tell them how, if it's doable, and if it seems like it makes them more vulnerable they can just not do it. He has no idea how to approach Brightstar, because Brightstar is ninety percent operational constraint by volume, but if someone does, and it turns out She can accept prayers issued on alternate Waterdays if you're standing on your head, it's worth knowing.

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Seldan kind of thinks that Brightstar will decline to cooperate with literally anything, regardless of the incentives, out of…”spite” isn’t quite right, and it’s probably enormously less thought out than Blai’s rationale for being uncooperative about being kidnapped, but - in the prophecy Blai cast on him it looked like he was not very willing to engage. But maybe there’s angle, or - there’s his sister, apparently, maybe she knows how one would go about conveying a message to their goddess…

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Jisa? - no, the other sister.

Presumably since there were only two wands of Sending communication artifacts they are now used up, how are they talking to Leareth now?

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Oh, Vanyel presumably has reusable talismans that he can put more mage-energy into himself when the stored power runs out, that's how they usually work; the absurdly expensive single-use ones were because Blai isn't a mage and can't use standard mage-artifacts.

The mage-guards with Blai also have someone on comms-spell duty. It's still not trivial, and Seldan suspects Vanyel is trying to avoid conveying anything that would be disastrous for Iftel to intercept (though apparently they couldn't intercept message content during the attack on the kyree caves, only observe that a message was being sent at all, that came up at some point), but they shouldn't consider the number of messages to Leareth particularly limited. 

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That's good. If the Shadow-Lover's message has already been passed on Blai has nothing urgent to say (except maybe to reiterate that he can be... looked at or whatever... to better triangulate Golarion, if that helps) but various hostiles have spent so much effort making it hard to talk to Leareth that he has it flagged as alarming not to be able to.

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It would be pretty alarming if they lost contact! Though they're in an enormously better situation to address it now that the Heralds trust Leareth enough to have two dozen of his people in Haven all of whom have Gate-locations in the north. 

He passed on the Shadow-Lover's message to Vanyel but it's possible the nuances weren't all conveyed and it would be a good idea for Seldan to show Leareth the memory directly once they have reason to be in the north again.

 

Anyway, breakfast and then spells and then figure out if they need to talk to Brightstar? Maybe the prophecy will actually show everything going fine.

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Breakfast. (The food keeps being not Worldwound stew and also not Created food that needs so much extra salt, it's great.) Where's Sandra to be found?

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In the suite she shares with Kilchas. (They’re apparently together.) She’s expecting them. Seldan passed on to her Companion to explain what they’re going to try and that it may not work.

She’s a tall, slender woman with scars on her face and throat; the alchemy accident wasn’t the first time she’s been seriously injured. Despite her cloudy, obviously unseeing eyes, she moves gracefully when she lets them in; mage-sight and Thoughtsensing make up for a lot.

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Kilchas is sitting down at the dining table. He’s a little disappointed that apparently Blai can’t heal him, but - there’s a whole other world, maybe they have stronger magic. And he’s excited to watch.

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"Remove Blindness."

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!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Awwwww.

Kilchas gets up, wheezing a bit, and hugs her. He would kind of like to hug Blai in gratitude, but per the Companion backchannel Blai would probably find it weird, so he doesn’t.

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Blai nods politely and waits for Sandra to exit the hug before trying the Lesser Restoration.

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She can see (!!!!) that he's waiting for her, and extracts herself fairly quickly for the second spell. 

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"Lesser Restoration."

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The Healers told Sandra over a year ago that she was probably as recovered from her injuries as she was ever going to get. They saved her life and got her through the infections and complications in the aftermath, but Healing can't reverse the scarring in her lungs. 

It could be worse. She can walk around her suite without getting too short of breath, though even a cold has her bedridden now and attended by worried Healers trying to stop it from turning to pneumonia, and she's been avoiding going outside since the first frost because the cold air makes her chest lock up. She can do artifact-work as long as she takes frequent breaks, and she's always been better at detail-work than power anyway. But even with the air-of-life talisman powered up around her neck, the sense of her own limitations is there, lurking just out of sight. She could still use magic in combat if she had to, she thinks – for about fifteen seconds before she ended up on the floor gasping like a fish. The fatigue and weakness are ever-present, and she can ignore that and push through for a time but she always pays for it. 

 

She abruptly feels a lot better! Not healthy - she's not sure she remembers what that feels like, anyway - but like she could head down the hall at a jog right now if she felt like it and reach Savil's suite still able to talk. 

 

:Wow. That - did help. Thank you.: 

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:You're welcome.:

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Well, that seems to be all he has to do here, then! (Seldan is pretty sure that Sandra and Kilchas would like some privacy to do more than just hug.) 

 

They can go find Vanyel now and discuss casting the prophecy spell on him? He and Savil are discussing preparations right now. 

(Seldan is feeling a bit less intensely clingy this morning and is personally fine with Blai going into a building for a few minutes, but if Blai seems at all alarmed by the prospect then he'll see if Vanyel and Savil can come out and meet them instead.) 

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Blai is not more anxious about going into a building than he is about most things, today.

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Then they needn't mildly inconvenience Vanyel and Savil by asking them to duck out of their meeting room! It's this way. 

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Vanyel seems like he might be doing a little better than yesterday, now that he's had a night's sleep. He's tense, but that makes an awful lot of sense given what they're planning to do. 

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Savil smiles at Blai. She had a Nap in the Stack and eventually a night's sleep as well, and despite the seriousness of the situation she's almost cheerful. :I'm very glad you're all right.: 

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:It was at least very interesting to speak to the Shadow-Lover, though Her manner of arranging to meet people is certainly awkward.:

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:It sounds like you had a surprisingly productive conversation!: 

She pulls out a chair for Blai and turns back to look at Vanyel. :So obviously the worst case scenario here is the Heartstone losing containment, but - that can't happen by accident no matter how unlucky we get. Vanyel thinks it's likely She could only do it at all with an Adept who follows Her present, and even if She can do it directly, it's - not clear that it gains Her much. She would still lose nearly all Her influence in Valdemar. The part that does gain Her something is if we decide to delay because we're afraid She would do it. So - we're not planning to delay.: 

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:We're considering whether to make an announcement to the population at large, so people can choose to get out of range just in case. But it could create a lot of panic and - I'm trying to think if She would be actively steering for that, if it's already the case that we're not planning to delay no matter what. I don't think any amount of panic in the city or - people getting hurt - could stop us from carrying the plan out.: 

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Blai briefly entertains the idea of telling people something is going to be merely unpleasant in the area, like a noxious smell or a loud noise, but this would be false, and he is not supposed to lie, probably. :Which of you will be in a more visually informative location at the time? If you'll be in the same place which of you is less likely to have another even more important thing in store for the next few days?:

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Savil considers this. 

:We're both going to be in the Heartstone room. I don't know how visually informative...doing magic...would be. Vanyel will be doing most of it, I - could plan to narrate what's happening, if that would be more informative than just sitting there in trance?:

Thoughtful frown. :And I think Vanyel, er, attracts important events in general more than I do.: In particular, if they can get access to Golarion and bring Yfandes back in the next few days, that could easily be considered an even bigger deal for Vanyel than the entire Palace collapsing when they try to shut down the Heartstone. She doesn't bring it up explicitly, though. 

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:The worst that could happen - short of the Heartstone losing containment - is that I die.: Matter-of-factly. :It's a risky working that really ought to be done by a team of a dozen mages including a Healing-Adept, and I've obviously never done it before.: 

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They could all die. Savil doesn't say that either; she has a suspicion that it's important for Vanyel right now to believe that even if this goes wrong, Leareth's mages could get her at least out in time. 

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:Anyway. Both of us should be in the same place, so I don't know that it matters very much unless we posit that something even more interesting happens to one of us tomorrow. ...In which case Savil isn't wrong that it's more likely to be me: 

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In that case he will focus on Savil, and cast Minor Prophecy.

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The vision does not show Savil in the Heartstone room at all, actually! 

 

She seems to be in Leareth's facility in the north, actually. (They're clearly underground, the room carved out from stone rather than built of stone like Valdemar's Work Rooms, and the stonework feels indefinably newer and distinct in style.) The room she's in has a standalone archway, and there's a Gate raised on it, though Savil doesn't seem to be the one casting it. The other side has a blurred view of what looks like a half-collapsed building. 

"Hurry," she's saying to someone next to her - not Vanyel, probably one of Leareth's people, "there's still a Heartstone there - maybe unstable, with Haven's down -" She looks like she desperately wants to rush through the Gate and is barely holding herself back. 

A knot of people are crossing back from the other side; there's an older couple first, a man with a scarred face and a woman who's probably in her early fifties clinging to him; they're both covered in dust and look a little banged up, but not seriously injured. 

They're followed by a tawny-haired young man, dazed-looking and limping, but still trying to half-carry a semiconscious young woman, with the help of another unfamiliar older woman. The young woman is familiar; she was the one in the earlier prophecy cast on Brightstar, with the odd patterned hair and Tayledras features. Half her face is covered in blood. 

Savil rushes in to help catch the young woman before the man collapses and ease her to the floor. "- We need Blai -" 

There's some confusion and people rushing around and maybe some conversation in Mindspeech, then a Gate and a Blai appears. 

 

There's - something, a sense of confusing magic though nothing is exploding or anything, Blai is on the floor now and it's sort of deeply unclear what happened - 

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Well that's concerning!! Was everybody watching or does Blai have to try to verbalize it?

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Seldan at least was watching closely and is already fixing it in his memory, though he has no idea who any of those people are or context on why there's apparently ANOTHER Heartstone somewhere ELSE. 

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It's pretty concerning! 

:Highjorune: Vanyel guesses. :I recognized Tashir and Featherfire for sure - and I think the other couple were Jervis and Melenna - not sure about the woman. I - we should have thought of that, Highjorune has a very old Heartstone - dates back to well before it was part of Valdemar, we think the Tayledras left it behind centuries ago when the Pelagirs cleared that area. We can't shut it down, it's tied to a spell preventing a major earthquake.: 

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:I...think...this at least implies that shutting down the Haven Heartstone worked, and just had some side effects? And we should evacuate Highjorune first, now that we're expecting problems there.: 

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Is nobody going to comment on the fact that something confusing and concerning was happening to Blai right at the end of the vision????

:So - Featherfire, right? Brightstar's sister? - was going to be injured, and Blai gets summoned to Heal her, and - something happens...?: 

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:She's Tayledras too, and would've been near a Heartstone before this happened. I - don't think she would deliberately hurt Blai, and she didn't seem to be in any shape for it anyway, but - maybe the Star-Eyed could act through her. I - we should probably avoid bringing Blai near her even if she does end up needing Healing, which - hopefully we can avoid that by getting her out of there immediately...: 

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:We really should have picked her up already, it's just awfully logistically inconvenient unless we ask Leareth's people for the Gate. Which - plausibly we should do - it looked like they were handling the Gate in the prophecy.: 

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Seldan is still a bit freaked out by whatever mysterious bad thing happened to Blai! Does Blai have any guesses about what that could be - he hasn't picked up that spells backfiring on the caster is a thing with Blai's magic, but if he were a Velgarth mage that would be Seldan's best guess...

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:So, instead of earthquakes happening at random, they will occur whenever the Star-Eyed wants them to?: And no, he doesn't know why he'd collapse like that, that's not a thing he'd expect to happen as a result of any magic he'd have on hand.

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:Apparently! That's really frustrating!: Savil shakes her head. :I mean, it would be a lot worse than some collapsed buildings if the spell fully went down. There's damage, something we think happened in the Cataclysm, if the spell wasn't holding things together then all of Lineas might fall into a pit of lava.: 

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:I wonder if Leareth could do something. It'd - be very risky, doing any major working where the Star-Eyed can mess with things - but the Eastern Empire has alternate power sources for permanent Gates, maybe there's something Leareth could set up to replace the Heartstone and keep the spell active.: 

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:I don't think causing earthquakes around Lineas is actually in Her interest unless it - what was even happening there - unless it forces us into a hasty rescue operation where we don't think especially hard about putting Blai in the same room as one of the Star-Eyed's people? Or, I mean, unless we're stupid enough to try an incredibly dangerous working on the site.: 

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Vanyel shakes his head. :It might not just be Lineas that She can affect. It's - we didn't formally link the Web to the Lineas Heartstone as a power source, it's got enough of a job to do, but it's still in the Web.: 

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Seldan has been trying to follow along. 

:...Would it stop being if Lineas went back to being independent from Valdemar? My understanding is that the Web extends to Valdemar's borders, not further, and - that predates the Heartstone by a long time, it might not be something the Star-Eyed Goddess can directly control.: 

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:...I still have no idea how the Web does that. It seemed to just know, when we did the annexations.: It's kind of creepy now that he's thinking about it. 

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:It's not instant. My theory is that it goes off the Heralds' expectations, or maybe the Companions. It's...definitely not perfectly understood, though, and I don't think we've ever seen what happens if Valdemar shrinks. ...And the Star-Eyed could interfere with the Death Bell even though that's older than the Heartstone.: 

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:Why was Lineas annexed, is there an independence movement it might make sense to back?:

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:Their entire royal family - and nearly all the Palace staff - were eaten by demons as part of a plot by the neighboring country to conquer them. Tashir was the only survivor and he was accused of killing everyone with Fetching, it was - a huge mess - he ended up with a Companion, approximately the entire royal family of Baires ended up dead in the aftermath, and we eventually figured out an arrangement where Valdemar annexed both and put Tashir in charge. I don't know that we could meaningfully call them independent from Valdemar if there's a Herald on the throne.: 

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Savil purses her lips. :The eaten-by-demons artifact is something Leareth made for a mage in Baires. He didn't actually intend any of what happened, but - I feel a bit like in all this deciding he's not our main enemy, we've been forgetting the man is willing to do horrifically evil things.: 

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.......Blai is not in line for and was not planning to seek any executive political offices but this really should have come up in the "should you get a Companion" talk, it's not like he told anyone that the Constitutional Convention wasn't expected to end with one of its number named Supreme Elect like Andoran has or something. (For all he knows maybe it is! Oh no what if that happens!)

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It doesn't seem like an analogous enough situation for Seldan to think that would be particularly concerning. Cheliax is in another world! There's no existing eight-year backdrop of Cheliax being a province of Valdemar. Also they're not trying to figure out the minimum change of administration that would convince a poorly-understood ancient piece of magical infrastructure, which might literally make its determination off "are there Heralds in this region", to exclude Cheliax from Valdemar's borders. Though also it seems like Blai doesn't want to be in any political offices and Seldan would have some serious objections to the Constitutional Convention's process if they tried to elect Blai without giving him the opportunity to say no.

He's inclined to agree with Vanyel that it seems pretty iffy whether writing some words on a piece of paper, even a highly official piece of paper, while not changing much else would convince the Web that Lineas under Tashir should be kicked out, even assuming the Star-Eyed can't just directly prevent them from pulling the Web away. 

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Well, whether Blai wants an office doesn't matter necessarily, it might be that (for example) he's the only native Chelish Select and that could be important in some possible scenarios and he'd suck it up and do the job if he had to. Anyway, that's a sidenote, sounds like Lineas is part of Valdemar and has a Heartstone. Where else has a Heartstone?

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From backchannel with Kellan: APPARENTLY SUNHAME! Why is there a Heartstone in territory that isn’t just not Valdemar but actively under another god, he has no idea!!! 

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...well, they seem to be - working together or at least not at obvious cross-purposes? - but it's weird, yes.

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:It’s the only method we could figure out to power a permanent Gate-terminus, which we wanted to build in Sunhame, and apparently Vkandis allowed it. I’m not sure it actually makes it a worse idea to visit Sunhame than it already was.:

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They should figure out how to start a fight between Vkandis and the Star-Eyed Goddess, to get them working at cross-purposes Seldan has no idea how one would do that and also warring gods sounds almost as dangerous as their current situation and might be worse.

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Yeah don't do that!!!

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…Does Golarion history have examples of that going badly?

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Blai does not have an example of that exact thing to hand but he thinks something along the lines of "gods working at cross purposes too much would destroy the world somehow" is a likely candidate for how tight intervention budgets look. Though the Velgarth gods seem different he still has that flinch.

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It does seem like the Velgarth gods usually have some way to set it up so their conflicts don't result in destroying the world - the Shadow-Lover god in particular is clearly working at cross-purposes to the others, but mostly in ways that seem to involve letting Their plans play out most of the way and then nudging them a different direction at the last moment. It definitely seems wise not to poke at that equilibrium too hard. 

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Yeah. Blai really hopes the Shadow-Lover knows what She's doing.

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Vanyel takes a deep breath. :Anyway. I don't think this is a reason to put off shutting down our Heartstone today. We should ask Leareth for his help evacuating Highjorune or at least getting Featherfire and the others out, and - I think we should consider getting Blai out of Haven, if we're not waiting on other spells from him today? The Star-Eyed Goddess clearly has it out for him.: 

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:I think I've cast the spells that I meant to cast in Haven specifically today.:

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The only thing Seldan can think of that they might still want Blai for is an Owl's Wisdom on Vanyel right before he starts the working, but it seems likely they should actually do that from the north and have one of Leareth's mages Gate Vanyel back immediately, rather than vice versa. He'll pass that along via Kellan. 

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:I can't think of anything else: Savil agrees. :And Leareth might find it useful to get your help with, er, whatever he would find helpful for finding Golarion.: 

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Also Leareth might like to hear more about Iomedae! 

They've got a whole entourage of Leareth's people here and should be able to get a Gate back north pretty easily. 

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Blai should grab his stuff but that doesn't take long, he's not even very unpacked.

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Then they can be back in the north again well before lunchtime! Seldan is at some point going to get really tired of spending a lot of time in mildly claustrophobic underground bases, but right now it's mostly reassuring that there are NO freezing rivers nearby.

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Leareth is busy for the next candlemark running some sort of calculations related to advising Vanyel on precautions for shutting down the Heartstone, but after that he would in fact like to meet with Blai about Golarion! He'll need to be interruptible again once Vanyel and the others actually get started, but the Heartstone-shutting-down working is planned for later in the afternoon, the Heralds are still working on evacuating. 

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They should probably not go snooping around Leareth's secret underground base even if Seldan is quite curious about it. More Acts while they wait? 

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More Acts! They will finish it soon, Blai wishes he had commentaries.

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Yeah, Seldan still doesn't feel entirely educated on the Iomedaean religion. Though so far he's approved of everything he has learned. Which is impressive! He's a very judgmental person! 

He gets an update a while later that Leareth's people are working with some of the Heralds - junior Heralds who Blai hasn't met, the Senior Circle isn't involved here - to evacuate Highjorune. Brightstar's sister Featherfire is safely out and reunited with her brother, in the base where Jisa is which is a couple hundred miles from here, along with Tashir and all the most key personnel from the Highjorune leadership. Nothing disastrous has happened; maybe the Star-Eyed Goddess isn't going to bother given that it's unlikely to even inconvenience Leareth that much, his mages can all Gate themselves out very quickly if something starts to go wrong. 

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Gating seems to Blai worse than teleporting for most emergency purposes involving only a few people. You have to be able to physically move to your gate, you have to undo the gate afterwards, people can follow you if they're quick. But it's what they've got, he supposes.

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It has a lot of downsides! A lot more downsides at the Valdemaran level of training with Gates, where you need an actual doorway. Someone who can do unscaffolded Gates can put the threshold horizontally underneath themselves so they drop through, so it's not an unworkable escape plan if all your mages are at that skill level - just a pretty costly and wasteful one - but getting all the Heralds and Companions on-site out safely would be a lot more challenging. 

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About a candlemark later, Leareth is ready to meet with Blai!

He would like to closely examine all of Blai's magic items, in case he can find some kind of unique structure present in Golarion magic and not present in any Velgarth magic that could be used to target a search-spell. He would also like the most detailed explanation Blai can provide on all the different planes accessible from Golarion, and their relations to each other insofar as this is known.  

Also it would be valuable to have context on whether there are locations on the planet in the Material plane where it would be a really, really bad idea to land via blind Gate, such that he shouldn't do that and should only try to travel there once he can separately do interworld scrying. 

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Blai has two magic items (the armor and the mace). Three if you count the spellbook page seized from some unfortunate wizard-school washout for his use in learning Prestidigitation for internal political project reasons.

Blai was taught this here diagram of the planar relationships, he can draw it - Material wrapped in the Elemental Planes, and the overlapping planes sandwiched like so with the First World in the middle, and all of this surrounded by the Outer Planes with the Astral pervading it all. He assumes this is grievously oversimplified, he's not sure where you'd draw the River of Souls in this arrangement, Plane Shift will get you between any two without it being more complicated to get to more distant ones or anything, and of course there's umpteen demiplanes that powerful people make (or that are temporary Rope Tricks or just Bags of Holding or Magnificent Mansions or something).

Here is Blai's terrible map of Golarion. He is trying to get to this city on this coast. The closest incredibly bad idea landing spot is Nidal, which borders Cheliax and is ruled by an evil god. Blai would not be welcome in Rahadoum because he's a cleric and he wouldn't want to intrude. Landing in the ocean would suck but probably Leareth doesn't need to be told that. You don't want to land in the middle of the Worldwound, it's closed but still has most of the demons who already came across before that. Best not to land in Geb. Or Razmiran. If we're being pickier still he'd also rather not spend extended periods of time in Belkzen, Ustalav, or literally any forest even the ones within Cheliax's borders. Or the Mana Wastes because he doesn't know how they'd affect an attempt to gate out again. Cheliax is fine, Absalom and Galt and Andoran and Isger and Osirion and Katapesh and Thuvia and Taldor and Molthune and Mendev are fine, the River Kingdoms are maybe dicey but in the sense that they're at any given time likely an active war zone and not in the sense that either side of any such wars is going to be hostile to clerics of Iomedae on sight, he's not sure about any of the other places he's remembered to label and is probably forgetting to label some of them, please do not actually trust this map with anything important.

He knows almost nothing about things that aren't in Avistan or the Inner Sea area but assumes all the other continents have a comparable density of badness.

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It sounds like there are a lot of places where it would be a disaster! Not just for Blai but for a highly prepared mage planning to stay exactly long enough to scry the surrounding region and then get out. Leareth thinks he should probably figure out interworld scrying in parallel and scope out a safe place to arrive, or - if it turns out to be easier to research - figure out a version of the comms spell, though this will be difficult because no one in Golarion is a Velgarth mage and the variants that can reach un-Gifted people are much more difficult. Interworld Mindspeech is probably just not possible. 

He's curious about properties of the Elemental Planes. Velgarth has Elemental Planes too, and if they're the same ones then that's a strong hint on how to route a Gate to Golarion. He's also curious to hear more about the Astral Plane in case it's a different word for the Void, which is what Gates by default route through. 

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The Void sounds more like the Negative Energy Plane? Blai can prepare summoning spells if Leareth would like to look at various elemental creatures, though they don't last very long. Most of what Blai knows about most of the planes is what spells interact with them - so he can describe Ethereal Jaunt and Astral Projection, in case that helps.

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Descriptions of spells that interact with other planes would probably be helpful! Looking at various summoned elemental creatures definitely would be, though it sounds like that would have to be tomorrow? 

(Leareth has been taking very detailed notes, and for spell descriptions in particular would like to read Blai's mind to pick up as much as possible about the structure of the magic.) 

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That's fine. Blai considers warning him that he's been told it's unpleasant but actually he was only told that once when he was like twelve and nobody's complained since then and he's been having his mind read a lot on this planet so maybe it doesn't bear mentioning.

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Seldan feels like he is quite the expert in Blai's mind at this point and, while probably nothing would bother him anyway thanks to the bond, he thinks Blai's mind is objectively just fine? And certainly not bothersome to Leareth, who must be an unusually hard-to-bother person in order to have gotten up to all the shit he's done. 

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Leareth can productively interrogate Blai on Golarion-related matters for a couple of candlemarks, by which point it's lunchtime and Vanyel apparently wants his attention on something again. He will make whatever progress he can for the rest of today - assuming there are no disasters that take up all of their time - and then if Blai can prepare a summoning spell tomorrow, that would also be very informative. 

Actually, if Blai has any spells that use negative energy, that would also help narrow down if the Negative Energy Plane and the Void are the same thing. Leareth's understanding is that Blai's healing works via positive energy, which does not seem to correspond to anything Velgarth schools of magic are familiar with. 

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Just one summoning spell? He can only get one kind of elemental at a time.

He can prepare an Inflict Light Wounds and... kill a chicken with it or something.

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Several kinds would be better but Leareth's guess is that if one of the Elemental Planes matches they all do, and he's aware that Blai has limited spell opportunities per day and doesn't want to cut into his available defensive magic. 

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Seldan is so curious about the wound-inflicting spell! Does it inflict specific wounds or just, like, woundedness in general somehow? 

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You can aim it a little bit, if you're targeting somebody with enough toughness to stay conscious after getting Inflicted at all and want them to still be able to do some particular thing afterwards like walk or chew, but not very much. It tends to go for flesh wounds and skin-level damage. He used to be able to channel (negative) energy through his mace and that tended to concentrate most of the extra damage at the spot where he hit the demon, so he could squeak out a little more crippling effectiveness out of it if he landed a solid blow on an important joint or the head.

Summonses are actually a pretty good spell to have prepared for defensive purposes; he'll prep two, show off one, and plan to use the second as a demo only shortly before dawn, keeping it in pocket till then, if that works for Leareth.

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That works fine for Leareth! He thanks Blai for his help and ducks out to attend to Heartstone-related Vanyel questions. 

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One of his staff can show Blai where to get lunch, if he’s hungry. They’ve made arrangements to have hay and grain brought for Seldan, and a guest room set up on this same level so Seldan can join Blai there without having to navigate stairs.

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Oh no, can Seldan not do stairs. Blai can cast Air Step on him if they anticipate stairs but what if there are surprise stairs.

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Seldan thinks he can get up or down stairs (as long as it’s not one of those extremely tight cramped spiral staircases they put in towers sometimes, in which case he would literally not fit). It would just be so so undignified. He is grateful to Leareth's people for saving him from having to decide between "extremely undignified" and "literally demanding a short-range Gate to their bedroom." 

If they ever have to descend stairs at some kind of formal court function or something, though, Blai is welcome to prepare Air Step so he can look cool instead of incredibly silly. 

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It's probably not a very justifiable use of a second circle slot.

What's for lunch?

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A range of communal dishes set out on a side table with similar overall variety to the Heralds' dining hall, none of them Worldwound stew or undersalted! 

Seldan clops over and examines the table curiously, warns Blai that this one bean dish is popular in Seejay and is usually made very spicy, and then stops to mull on how in the world he could possibly know that. Did he travel to Seejay? Did Valdemar entertain some sort of envoy from that region during his time as a Herald? He is getting seriously ticked off that he doesn't remember any autobiographical details of his actual life - except for some generalities, he knows he held military commands and wrote treatises - despite having pretty good retention of historical facts. 

Also Leareth's style of speaking is definitely familiar, to the point that Seldan is now suspecting he did somehow know Leareth in a previous incarnation, as unlikely as that might seem. It's driving him wild that he can't dredge up any details of who. Especially because he's...pretty sure the person-who-was-secretly-Leareth wasn't someone he knew as an evil archmage, he was...probably a scholar? 

 

The dining hall isn't that busy - they're a bit late for the usual lunch hour - but there are a bunch of people at one table having some kind of good-natured argument in Rethwellani. Seldan considers translating it for Blai's entertainment before realizing it's for some reason almost entirely about obscure math he doesn't know. They can play some mental chess instead? 

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He'll steer clear of the spicy thing, he is perfectly capable of putting food that hurts in his mouth but it makes his nose run and there doesn't appear to be any reason to do it here.

Seldan speaks Rethwellani? Is that another holdover from his human lifetime?

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Apparently! He thinks it's not that hard to learn if you know Valdemaran, and Rethwellan has all the best scholarship, you really have to know the language if you want to read the most interesting philosophical treatises. He determines after brief introspection that he apparently speaks Karsite as well, and that's a much less closely related language. 

 

Ooh they have pocket pies with apples inside! Seldan wants one! ...He actually has no idea if horses experience taste similarly enough for him to enjoy foods he liked as a human, especially given that apparently he does like hay fine now, but he wants to test it and he's pretty sure Companions don't have the weirdly fussy digestion that regular horses do. 

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Blai gets a pie for Seldan and one for himself too.

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It turns out apple pies are still tasty! Not in a way where Seldan would suffer too much if he was only getting hay, but he's happy that he can still enjoy them. 

 

Seldan thinks the plan is still for them to be on-call to cast Owl's Wisdom on Vanyel two seconds before someone Gates him back to Haven at which point they can also be on call to worry about things going horribly wrong, no point worrying when they know Vanyel hasn't even started yet. Anyway, in the meantime maybe they can go see if the guest rooms in Leareth's headquarters are nicer than the ones in Valdemar? 

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It's weird that the guest rooms in Leareth's headquarters are more prepared for horse shaped guests than the ones in Valdemar, and that is at present a pretty important trait if you ask Blai. Off they go to check it out.

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This room was absolutely not a bedroom until half a candlemark ago! It was probably some kind of general meeting room, going off the fact that almost an entire wall is set with slate panels sanded smooth to write on with chalk.

It's definitely much bigger than the guest room Blai was temporarily assigned, with a wide doorway suitable for moving tables in and out easily or, as the case may be, for a horse to get in and out. It now contains a bed, the mattress resting on a cleverly folding frame and a makeshift sort of low box on the floor beside the bed filled with straw. There's a desk as well, and an armchair. Overall the furniture is plainer than what was in the Valdemaran guest room but also much newer. 

It has permanent mage-lights set in the ceiling but, as the person showing them to it apologetically explains, they're not the kind that an un-Gifted person can activate themselves - it's sort of taken for granted that any meeting will have at least one mage - so Blai will have to ask someone to power them up if he wants light. They do recommend it if he ends up spending much time in here, it's not good for people to lack any source of bright light all the time. Normally they go on walks outside, but the whole facility is very locked down right now in case Iftel is scrying the surface for activity, and anyway there are barely five candlemarks of daylight at this time of year and outside is pretty dismal. 

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Blai can do his own light. Not that much of it but he's used to coping with just the one light through the winter at the Wound in a windowless office.

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A useful background for living up here! 

Anyway, there's a privy next door which he should have to himself at night - the regular bedrooms are on the lower level - and this room down the hall has a bath and hot water. Sadly not UNLIMITED hot water like the base he used to work out of, which was built above a geologically active area and routed a hot spring directly to the bathing-room. But apparently that's slightly less safe because risk of earthquakes. 

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Yes, there's apparently an earthquake suppression spell that the Star-Eyed is wired to directly in Lineas, it seems bad. Blai hasn't had a bath since... drowning... which probably was kind of a wash (so to speak) in terms of its effect on his overall cleanliness, he might go ahead and take a bath if nothing else is pressing.

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He should definitely bathe! It seems unlikely they'll be needed in the next half-candlemark and the river was not exactly sparkling clean. Seldan now feels slightly bad for not thinking to bother someone in Haven until they offered him a place to bathe, but in fairness he's...a horse now...and may have forgotten to track the existence of baths for a while, and was also feeling pretty paranoid about Blai going into buildings without him.

(He's not feeling bothered about that at all here, one advantage of being in Leareth's highly secure base is that it might be underground and slightly dismal but he feels very safe here. It seems like pretty strong evidence that the gods can't pull anything here that Leareth has been unmolested despite still not being immortal. Though he will have to nag someone to key him to the shields so he can Mindspeak Blai if one of them is outside the bedroom, it's rather well shielded even from the hallway.) 

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Oh no, Blai definitely doesn't want to go take a bath if he'd be out of contact with Seldan the whole time instead of just five minutes maybe.

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Probably the bathing-room isn't going to be insanely shielded even from the hallway, though he supposes they should check; probably the former-meeting-room is insanely shielded because sensitive conversations would happen there or something, but it's not like shielding additional internal walls is free. He doesn't mind mostly lurking in the hallway for whatever parts Blai doesn't actively want privacy for. 

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Okay. Bathtime then.

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Leareth indeed does not bother to have the bathrooms separately shielded from the hallway in his base. There's plenty of hot water and Blai can borrow a towel, and Seldan will still be reachable for conversation or mental chess.

(If Blai seems to actually want five minutes alone in his head, Seldan will go excuse himself to "get the straw in his bed stomped down properly" and mostly not find this stressful.) 

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He does, yeah, there were those dreams about the Shadow-Lover that require some private reflection.

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Then Seldan will get his straw very comfy and remain entirely ignorant of such reflections! 

Once he’s back out in the hallway he harasses someone in Mindspeech to find out what the laundry arrangements are, in case Blai needs his clothes properly cleaned at some point.

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They have gone some time without being Prestidigitated now, yes.

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Unfortunately Velgarth magic is inferior in this respect and apparently even Leareth doesn't have a spell to replace washing clothes the mundane way with soap and water, but they have a setup for it that Blai is welcome to make use of (assuming his clothes will be fine with that? Do they make clothing differently if you can use a spell to clean it directly?) He can borrow something to wear in the meantime that should fit tolerably. 

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Blai's clothes are wool and he has no reason to believe that nonmagical laundry will harm them. Out he comes in his borrowed garb.

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And they can go relax in their bedroom until someone lets them know they're needed for casting Owl's Wisdom!

If they run out of Acts to read, Seldan has been making an effort to get to know everyone he can reach with Mindspeech and he suspects he's found some Mindspeakers who would be interested in learning the four-person chess variant. 

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Oooh!! ...it would be irresponsible to rush through the remaining Acts about it.

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Indeed. Seldan is also enjoying the Acts and it's plausible Leareth will want to hear about it - or at least would benefit from hearing about it regardless of whether he asks - once things have calmed down a bit. 

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Unfortunately they're not going to get a chance to play weird four-person chess this afternoon, because they're interrupted about half a candlemark by someone coming to knock on the door and politely let them know that Haven is ready for the working and they're setting up to bring Vanyel briefly over. The plan is to do the Gate in one Work Room and have Blai in the room over for Vanyel to pop over, just in case something weird happens to the Gate though there's no specific reason to think it would.

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A regular non-permanent Gate being violently blasted from the other side would go down before leaking enough energy to get through standard Work Room shielding, so that's probably a reasonable degree of precaution and it's not worth the added delay of making Vanyel do a two-hop Gate; this should be strictly less risky to Blai than being in Haven, which he was all of last night. 

(Seldan is still slightly tense. Maybe more about the situation broadly than about Blai's safety.) 

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Blai will have to take everyone's word for it on how risky being around Gates is. He will go cast the Owl's.

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They bring Blai down the hall to a different Work Room. Seldan does not fit through the door, but can be hastily keyed to the shields so they're at least not cut off from Mindspeech contact. 

It's going to be about a five-minute wait while they coordinate Vanyel's Gate over. 

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How about Blai waits in the hall with Seldan because he doesn't know how generalizable the mysterious falling over after a gate into Leareth's base might be and would like to enter the room after it's confirmed everything seems normal.

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The plan is that Vanyel will be Gated into the adjacent room, so in theory Blai is actually more thoroughly shielded from the Vanyel-Gate if he's in the Work Room rather than the hallway. ...If he feels more comfortable with his Companion in the room with him in case something odd does happen, they could get Seldan in there with him by doing a Gate from one side of the door to the other, this is only mildly silly. 

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Adjacent room is fine. Sorry.

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They probably have time to at least start a game of the smaller-board fast chess variant, and maybe finish it? 

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Vanyel’s Gate goes up in the adjacent room four minutes later. Nothing disastrous happens. He follows Leareth’s mage out and across to Blai’s Work Room.

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Blai puts Seldan in check and casts Owl's Wisdom on Vanyel.

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And now he’s on a time limit and had better hurry. Vanyel gives Blai a tight smile and ducks out back to the other Work Room.

(The Gate does not explode. He is deposited in Haven and the Gate is taken down without incident.)

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And now they can worry about everything that could go horribly wrong! 

(They’ll know one way or another if it worked in the next quarter-candlemark, and probably sooner if, contra the prophetic hint, it goes disastrously. Seldan could try to distract Blai from fretting but honestly this is among the most reasonable possible times to be anxious about things that might go wrong.)

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The Star-Eyed could be wise to Minor Prophecy by now and deliberately sabotaging it, it seems ludicrously useful for a second circle spell only when there's no countermeasures and what if there are countermeasures now! What if Vanyel dies and She grabs his soul, or Vkandis does! What if Iomedae tries to talk to the Velgarth gods and it goes really badly and they start chucking random souls into Hell because they're ticked off! What if the Shadowgod did not at ALL mean to come off that way by appearing as a pretty girl and has Found Out Somehow and is mad at him! What if Velgarth and Golarion are time dilated relative to each other and he's already late for the convention and somebody interpreted the lack of Iomedaean attendance as a bad omen and now the country is going to be... Gorumites or something... or worse! What if Owl's Wisdom makes Vanyel do something impulsive and crazy, it's occasionally known to have that effect, somebody gets an Owl's and realizes they want to desert the army or leave their spouse or something. What if the room Vanyel Gated in to is now permanently in a state of will-cause-Blai-to-fall-over and he forgets which room it is and walks into it and falls over. What if it's actually morally wrong to Inflict Minor Wounds on a chicken and he does it tomorrow anyway and then he's Lawful Evil and Iomedae has to drop him. What if he picks the wrong kinds of elementals to summon tomorrow, like if he should get a fire one and an air one but gets an earth one and a water one instead, and Leareth takes too long to find the way to Golarion, and the dead all need True Resurrections, and Nefreti Clepati doesn't happen to feel like it even if they have all the diamonds she'd need. What if there's no plan in place to get him to a kyree or anybody else who needs to be Gently Reposed today and the spell's a loss. What if these clothes he's borrowing are not fastened correctly because he isn't used to them and they fall off at an inopportune time. What if he prepped much too much for yesterday's crisis and today he's instead of drowning in a frozen river going to have to deal with falling off a cliff or fighting a lich or something. What if all this time the thing he could have been most productively spending his hours on is learning to use a sword so he could see about channeling positive energy at a lich with a sword, he'll sure feel stupid if a lich shows up now. What if Leareth has unbeknownst to anyone fallen over somewhere due to mysterious gates-resulting-in-falling-over effects.

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The useful thing is that some fraction of those are totally reasonable concerns to be tracking! Seldan is glad of the reminder to nag someone in Mindspeech about Blai's Gentle Repose spell and find out if they actually have access to any dug-up kyree corpses yet or if he should just use today's on Leareth's mage, whose body he's pretty sure is being stored in this facility already. 

 

...Seldan cannot speak to whether the Shadowgod is intentionally appearing as attractive to whoever They're talking to but this is not just Blai, Seldan isn't sure how many people in Valdemar's history have nearly-died enough to speak to the Shadow-Lover but apparently enough that a Bard wrote a song about it once which is halfway to being a romantic ballad. (This actually isn't a memory from his past life and he's not sure whether or not the song had been written then; it came up unrelatedly in Companion-gossip after all the recent Shadow-Lover conversations.) 

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Vanyel mentally drilled the initial steps of the Heartstone-shutdown process with Savil a dozen times. He steps across the Gate and then into the shielded Heartstone sanctum and doesn't hesitate. 

He kind of appreciates having the time pressure. Otherwise he might be tempted to have feelings about it. He created the Heartstone. Birthed it, in a sense. It's not quite a living thing but it's not not a living thing, either, and - even if this is definitely necessary, there's still something deeply sad about it. Part of him feels like it's surely not the Heartstone's fault, that the Goddess who lent Her magic to it is hostile. 

But he's under time pressure - the hardest part of this might be just barely doable within five minutes - and so there isn't time for feelings. 

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Savil is slightly less intensely busy than Vanyel for this part - she's holding some of the structure of the working and cuing him - which means she has slightly more time to be INCREDIBLY TENSE. 

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It goes entirely as expected for the first few minutes. Vanyel goes through the sequence of steps required to authorize any modifications to the deepest layers of the Heartstone structure; this part requires a signoff from all the Herald-Mages currently in the Web (so, everyone but Jisa), but Savil figured out a way to have them do it in advance, so they don’t need to be crowded into the rather tiny sanctum room right now.

Vanyel starts bleeding power off the Heartstone into the surrounding network of ley-lines and nodes. It’s difficult in the sense that he’s moving a lot of energy, but the Heartstone isn’t fighting him per se. 

He eases the stored power down to only somewhat more than a node, which is the part he was mostly worried about; even if the Heartstone does explode at this point, it should be contained easily within the shields that Leareth’s people are holding on the inner Palace walls, from which all civilians have been waiting for evacuated.

Maybe they’re still going to die attempting this - himself and Savil and Sandra and the 43 mages from Leareth’s organization who volunteered to be here. But no one else is going to die. 

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He should have a minute or two left on the Owl’s Wisdom.

The next stage is to start peeling apart the anchor-structure of the Heartstone, cutting it off from the inflow of ley-line energy before cutting the outlets and then dismantling the containment surface itself.

It doesn’t require Vanyel’s level of sheer power, especially; he’s the most familiar with this specific Heartstone, but Savil helped move a Heartstone for k’Treva, a decade before Vanyel was even Chosen. They drilled what to do if for some reason he has to hand it over to her.


With the Owl’s Wisdom, it’s pretty overdetermined that when he does feel something odd, he taps Savil’s shields without hesitation. 

:Might need you—:

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:—to take over: but her mind isn’t there to reach anymore. 

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A second ago Leareth was in the main coordination-meeting room with a scrying artifact, mid-Mindspeaking someone a question.

Now he’s…at the pass? Facing Vanyel. He can’t feel anyone’s mind at all; it’s somewhat unclear if his Gifts are even working, which - is exactly how the dream normally works. Except for the part where he definitely wasn't asleep

 

 

"...Well. That has never happened before." 

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...Vanyel jogs over from the mouth of the pass. 

"I - think I handed off to Savil in time - was anything happening in the north -?" 

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"Nothing that I was aware of! I assume everyone is very worried now." 

Leareth makes another attempt to Mindspeak Nayoki. It does not work. 

 

"...This is incredibly inconvenient." 

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"I'm...going to see if I can wake up on purpose?" 

Vanyel pinches himself very hard. This does not result in waking up. 

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If Savil hadn't been warned, it's possible she would have been alarmed enough to run to Vanyel when he abruptly collapsed, instead of first attending to the extremely complicated working they're trying to manage and which she's explicitly on-call to take over if anything happens. 

She doesn't panic. She manages to take over, ungracefully but before anything has a chance to explode. 

:- I think you should evacuate Vanyel: she manages in between steps. :Get out of range for the Gate.: 

And now she needs to focus. This part is doable for her but it's pushing the limits of her Gift-potential. She tries to block everything else out, and not think about Vanyel tumbling to the floor like a puppet with its strings cut - what could have happened - no time to think about it now - 

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Seldan is (by his own insistence and Mindspeech range) in realtime communication with Leareth’s people at this location, and so he hears immediately when something unexpected does go wrong.

…Blai’s anxiety is apparently weirdly prescient, because “Leareth falls over” is NOT a threat model Seldan would have been tracking. 

- they don’t know what happened, there wasn’t a Gate anywhere near him, he wasn’t doing anything magically complicated at the time, he just abruptly collapsed for no obvious reason - 

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WHY IS THAT A THING. Does he need healing, is the room he's in secure, is there an invisible attacker or a scrying sensor or a whatever the fuck there would be instead of those things here because magic is different,

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Seldan will hopefully know more in the next ten seconds! The room he’s in really should be secure, it’s part of the same building, and Seldan is not aware of any magic that would let someone invisibly sneak into an underground shielded base without being detected. Everyone in the room with him is confirmed to be one of Leareth's actual staff though it sounds like they're pulling everyone who was present away to check if they were somehow compulsioned or something, even though there are a lot of precautions that should make this nearly impossible and, for example, no one from the Highjorune evacuation was brought into contact with anyone who's now in this building... 

- they've summoned a Healer who says it doesn't seem like anything is physically wrong with Leareth, he's just inexplicably unresponsive, which seems like something Blai's Healing magic probably wouldn't help with - 

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Urgent update from one of the comms-mages: the Heartstone working is still in progress but Vanyel apparently also collapsed for no obvious reason. They're evacuating him north. ...To a different location just in case whatever is wrong with him is somehow contagious. 

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This is baffling! Seldan doesn't even have a theory at this point, especially because the obvious goal of incapacitating Vanyel or Leareth would be making the working go wrong  and it sounds like it hasn't, in fact, gone irretrievably off track, Savil was able to take over - 

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This might be a good time for Seldan to try out praying to the Shadowgod in case She is not fully apprised of the situation and can do something to make it work out okay!

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That's a good idea. Seldan is not entirely sure it'll work outside of Valdemar - based on some gossip with Leareth's staff here, Leareth picked this region for his operations because it's outside the territory of any gods (or at least of any gods that tend to intervene in noticeable ways.) 

His idea for getting it to be more likely to work - and, hopefully, to get some form of feedback on whether it did work - involves focusing most of his attention in a sort of extraplanar space where the Companions access Foresight. So he'll be pretty distracted for a while. 

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Understood. Blai's going to pray too for lack of any better ideas but Iomedae is way less likely to do anything.

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Seldan finds the way Blai prays very charming, and has gotten enough of a sense of it by now to somewhat imitate it in his own blue-place prayers, not that he has any idea if it's actually as good a format for the Shadowgod to learn things from prayers. The Shadowgod does not seem very good at...understanding...things. 

Worth a try, though. He'll settle himself comfortably in his straw bed in their room, and - it's a weirdly intuitive motion, shifting his mind to the blue place of silver threads, given that he's never done it before. 

 

Presumably the Shadowgod knows that something is going on but this is what it looks like from their perspective, the sequence of events as they're strung together from a mortal viewpoint... 

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Nayoki was inconveniently working from almost the opposite end of the facility, but she makes it to the room within three minutes of the urgent summons about something mysteriously wrong with Leareth. 

:What's going on?: 

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He's still apparently unconscious! They haven't tried moving him yet, so he's on the floor with someone's jacket folded under his head.

As reported, he doesn't respond at all or make any attempt to pick up his end of a Mindspeech link when she tries for one, but his shields do still seem to be up. 

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Which you wouldn't expect if he were unconscious from backlash or something, which normally brings down someone's shields. This looks more like he's just asleep, except for the part where they've already tried every reasonable way of waking him.

It's also inconvenient because he shields very well and just this once Nayoki would like it if she could actually read him and try to figure out what's going on. The little she can get off him with Mindhealing Sight accords with "asleep" more than "unconscious" but does not explain how or why; she can't see anything wrong that would explain why he's not waking up. 

They should get him somewhere more comfortable than the floor and she'll go look at Vanyel. 

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Vanyel is in similar shape – well, except for the part about looking fine to Mindhealing Sight, he doesn't shield it out at all and he looks horrifying, but that's mostly the broken Companion-bond and shouldn't have any effect on whether they can wake him. He does show signs of moderate backlash but that's fully explained by the Heartstone working he was in the middle of when it happened and, again, shouldn't cause him to be unwakeably asleep. 

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This is so weird! Nayoki is so confused and she doesn't like it at all! 

 

It occurs to her after a few minutes of staring frustratedly at Leareth's shields that she's never actually tried to wake him for an emergency and interrupted a Foresight dream. She would have expected him to wake up normally, but - usually it's timed for when he's asleep, and doesn't just happen in the middle of an important project. Some Foreseers do fall over like that they get a strong enough vision, though it's more common for someone to externally look like they're lost in a daydream, or see it without entirely losing track of the present, and also she's never heard of it lasting for nearly ten minutes

They know the shared dream is a godintervention, though. It hadn't occurred to her that it could be wielded as a hostile intervention like this and incapacitate both of them at an inconvenient moment, but maybe Someone is running low on options and getting creative. 

 

- she doesn't like it any better. It may not be directly dangerous, but it's making her wonder what else might be about to go wrong while neither of them is available to deal with it. 

They bring Leareth and Vanyel both to the infirmary, and she parks herself there and remembers to tell someone to update Seldan. 

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Receiving Mindspeech in the blue place is really weird. Seldan is now on his third repetition of trying to loudly think through the situation in the Shadowgod's direction, and has no particular reason to think that more iterations will be more successful. He extracts himself so he can concentrate properly on the message and then alert Blai. 

:Nayoki - the Mindhealer - thinks that Someone yanked them into the shared Foresight dream and is somehow trapping them there. She doesn't think it's dangerous for them directly - though it would be rough if it lasted for days - but she's not sure if there's a second step to the plot. ...Still waiting to hear word from Haven, but no news does at least mean it hasn't exploded.: 

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Well, that doesn't sound that bad unless they're out so long that they have to be forcefed in their sleep.

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It's not nearly as bad as most things that could cause someone to abruptly collapse! (Though it leaves unexplained what happened to Blai in that one prophecy, he doesn't have an existing recurring Foresight dream to be yoinked into.)

It seems like it would mostly be bad if, you know, something is going to come up that only one of them could have stopped, or if a god is going to try to assassinate Leareth again while he can't defend himself. But they're pretty locked down here, he can't see how any assassination attempt could get through – if it's an earthquake, there are literally dozens of people here capable of Gating them elsewhere, it doesn't have to be Leareth personally. 

Maybe the Star-Eyed Goddess just wants to block Leareth from researching how to get to Golarion? But the Shadowgod is already known to be in favor of contact with Golarion and probably wouldn't let it go on indefinitely? 

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The Shadowgod might if nothing else not be in as much of a hurry as Blai, She doesn't have much reason to care if he makes it to the convention on time.

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Indeed, the Shadowgod seems fine with nudging along plans that take twenty years to play out and until the very last moment look like letting another god have Their way. 

 

...Actually, that thought is making him wonder if this might be mostly aimed at making Foresight less noisy? It's probably incredibly hard for to the Star-Eyed to even figure out what's going on, what with Blai wandering in with his otherworldly god-magic, and especially Minor Prophecy letting them repeatedly see what's going to go wrong and changing plans based on it. Maybe taking Vanyel and Leareth off the gameboard is less to allow a specific plot to play out and more so that She can see well enough to plot anything at all?In which case the Shadowgod might not be too bothered, though probably (hopefully) would still intervene to disrupt any plots that end in Blai being murdered. 

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Huh. Well, it seems like kind of bad incentives to let that work for sort of the same reason one shouldn't cooperate with kidnappers. Blai is now contemplating what the loudest most annoying things he could do to make this future retroactively a stupid one for the Star-Eyed to steer for might be.

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This is not obviously a wise way to relate to gods but Seldan is kind of delighted by it anyway. He got the best Herald!

Hmmm. Blai could prepare as many prophecy spells as he can fit tomorrow and cast them on a whole list of important decisionmakers? Are there other spells he has that are even more weird and impossible by Velgarth standards? Creating food is pretty impossible with Velgarth magic but it’s not hugely impactful on their situation…

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He's not sure. He could... cast Tears to Wine and let tons of people drink the wine, that might look confusing if they were people who then went on to do substantially different things than they would without the enhancement. He could... Speak With Dead, if there's anybody who might have valuable information a god might have been trying to lock up, though with Shadowgod being a death god and presumably on-side that doesn't seem that likely to work.

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Yeah. The Shadow-Lover doesn’t have remit over all the relevant dead people, but - poke at Blai’s concept of the spell - aww, it seems like it wouldn’t work to try casting it on someone who died in k’Treva, since they don’t have the bodies. Also even if it did work, it might not change that much, most people are already convinced it wasn’t Leareth’s doing and Brighstar probably wouldn’t be convinced by a spell he knows nothing about.

Tears to Wine does seem interesting. Seldan can bring it up with Nayoki.

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It might be worth doing it even without the justification that it will annoy a hostile god but he might not have thought of it without, so it can pull double duty.

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Indeed. He wonders if it works on Companions, and now he's musing on how he would even drink wine, like, logistically - it seems deeply unaesthetic to put it in a water-trough though you technically could...

...he wonders if they could actually learn anything that would have any disruptive effects by Speaking to Dead with Yfandes, it's not like they can't already figure out more or less what happened, and Vanyel would probably not actually find it emotionally reassuring... 

 

He's going to attempt to do some more praying in the blue place. He's not sure it will help but it's as good a place to think as any. And maybe he'll think of something else.

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Today is a bad day. 

 

It's been WAY too long that she's been hundreds of miles away from Treven. Jisa feels like the least she could ask for is for them to have the shared dream, but it hasn't happened once. (She's not sure if Vanyel...knows...about the dream, so it doesn't make sense to be annoyed with him about not asking the Shadow-Lover about it, assuming the Shadowgod is even involved in it in the first place.) 

On top of all that, she's now spent days at what might be literally the most remote and least important underground base in Leareth's whole organization. It turns out that being underground at all times is depressing even when there are really bright mage-lights, not that aboveground is going to be less depressing this far north at this time of year but still.

Being around Brightstar is also depressing! She's not sure what's going on with him, exactly, it feels like it's not just grief over the deaths of almost everyone he's ever known - though that would be enough to deal with - or even just misery over his "failure" at his Goddess' mission. She had to put a Mindhealing block on him to shut down his ability to shield against Thoughtsensing - for him, like for her, it's instinctive and doesn't go down even in his sleep - and she still feels awful about it, but he wouldn't answer her questions and even a coercive Truth Spell was barely getting anything useful from him. 

She had to be the one to explain to Featherfire everything that's happened in the last week. Featherfire took it...better than she could have, honestly, and unlike Brightstar seems willing to interact with the concept that maybe the Star-Eyed was involved...but it was still one of the more painful conversations of Jisa's life. 

And now Savil is stuck trying to finish shutting down the Heartstone - latest word is that nothing bad has happened yet but it's taking her a lot longer without Vanyel's help - and the reason she doesn't have Vanyel's help is that he and Leareth are both TRAPPED IN THE FORESIGHT DREAM OR SOMETHING, and Jisa is still in this stupid underground base. And having to harass Leareth's staff to get any kind of update, probably because Nayoki is understandably overwhelmed with Leareth out of commission and is not thinking to keep her in the loop. 

At least Enara is with her, which feels like the only remaining reason she isn't losing her mind right now. 

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Featherfire is trying to talk to Brightstar. 

 

...Something is wrong. She doesn't understand what, but - they've always been on the same page, before. They're twins. She should be able to talk to her brother, no matter what else is happening, and - she can't. Even when he answers her in actual words, which took half a candlemark of coaxing, it - feels like there must be words between them that are falling into some kind of crack in the world. She's not sure what she means by that but that's what it feels like. 

Eventually she hugs him for a long time, not bothering to say anything at all, and then leaves and goes to find Jisa. 

"Something is wrong." 

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Literally everything is wrong, that's not new information at all

Jisa takes a deep breath. "With Brightstar? I - he wouldn't talk to me but I was hoping he would talk to you, you weren't - involved -" Brightstar has no reason at all to feel like Featherfire betrayed him. 

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"He...did speak to me a little, but -" Helpless shrug. "I cannot think of how to describe it, he - I would have thought you had done something to his mind..." 

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"...I mean. I did." And she feels like the worst person in the world about it. "But nothing that's still on him should be, um, affecting his thinking. I figured it was kind of understandable of him not to want anything to do with me, given...what happened, but..." 

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"I think it is not that." 

A very long pause. 

"...I think the Goddess did something to him? - he said that he spoke to Her, on the Moonpaths. When he thought Father was dead." 

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"...Huh." Jisa hadn't thought of that. Maybe she should have, given everything that's happened, but it hadn't felt obvious to her that there was anything left unexplained once you took into account that she was - from Brightstar's perspective - either fully mind-controlled to be Leareth's slave or willingly working for him, and was the one who had blocked his Gifts. 

(You will open a door to find only betrayal and pain, a god said to them once through a prophecy. You will stand at a crossroads, and find one another on opposite sides. Jisa isn't sure it's accurate to say she hadn't thought it could hurt this much; she hadn't really thought that part through at all.) 

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Featherfire looks down at the floor. 

“…He has always felt that he belonged to Her. Even when we were small." She frowns, thoughtfully. "The pact lies more heavily on him. I think it is because he is a Healing-Adept."

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That sounds very ominous and Jisa doesn't like it. 

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And somewhere else - insofar as where” is an applicable concept - the greater god behind the Shadow-Lover is looking backward in Foresight for the point when the visitor from another world arrived - mostly unnoticed at the time by the gods, They were busy and a slowly growing blind spot in Foresight wasn't evident at first - and then following that, in a different direction, to search for where the visitor came from before that. 

The gods I would be inclined to recommend to You to speak with would be Iomedae if She is available, Cayden Cailean, who I already mentioned, Desna, of travel and dreams and the stars, Sarenrae, of redemption and the sun, Shelyn, of love and art, and Abadar, of trade. Not necessarily in that order. Maybe also Erastil, farming and hunting. 

is what the visitor said to the Shadow-Lover avatar, and the god behind the avatar cannot precisely understand that in words, but They can look for a world with afterlife planes, and its gods, and a god that used to be human and will communicate with Them.

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...It turns out this is quite difficult to do. 

 

There are possible threads in Foresight leading to places They would rather not go. The Star-Eyed Goddess would probably be steering differently, if She knew what the god of the shadows learned from the visitor.

But communicating information of that format, learned from mortals via the Shadow-Lover avatar, is also not the kind of thing that the gods of Velgarth are particularly good at, and - it would be an enormous simplification and a misleading translation into human concepts to say the Star-Eyed Goddess "doesn't trust Them", but not entirely incorrect. 

Easier to wait and watch and nudge anything that would be really catastrophic, and keep trying to reach the other world. 

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It turns out that ascended gods look real weird. 

This person has godsenses and godmemories and communicates like a god. But there is still something of the flavor of a human in them. His godsenses are shaped, on some level, like they used to be sight and hearing and taste. His communication is compressed in particular ways that let you know it once was speech. And his desires are, on some basic level, human desires that got bigger.

(Iomedae scrapped more of her humanity before she ascended; she thought like a god far before she became one. Perhaps that is why the Shadowgod found Cayden Cailean first.)

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That is very strange. 

 

There is the additional complication that the Velgarth gods communicate with each other - to the extent that "communication" is even the right term for it - primarily in Foresight, and this is another world that entirely lacks Foresight as a functioning mechanism. 

 

The god of the shadows will try to communicate something like "We are a god from another world and were directed to speak to you about the destination of souls" but it's debatable how much of this will translate at all. 

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uhhhhhhh Pharasma???? I think there's an Outer God bothering me

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Not an Outer God, just a god you personally haven't heard of from a different part of Creation.

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Right! Well, you know, it's good to check these things.

Hello, other god from a different part of Pharasma's Creation! What's up? 

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The formerly human god does communicate in a way that the god of the shadows can mostly follow! 

Replying is harder! The other god is almost by definition not part of the same web of Foresight that the Shadowgod can push-and-pull within, and even the Shadow-Lover interface cannot really generate communications without any feedback mechanism to see the effects of them. 

 

The Shadow-Lover interface has a kind of memory, though. Heavily distorted from a mortal perspective, but there are relevant conversations that can be passed along, that a god who was once human might be able to translate.

The visitor said,

Can souls here make it to Golarion afterlives?

Iomedae doesn't so far as I'm aware manage soul destinations directly, that's Pharasma's department. If you can bypass that and hand off souls directly to Iomedae - or other gods - that might be very very important.

The reason it might be important if you can pass souls directly to specific gods is that Judgment often sends people to the Evil afterlives and even Evil people should not go there. Nirvana wants them. I don't know how much the other decent afterlives want people who don't sort there when judged, but Nirvana will take them all.

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Aroden's balls. You guys have your own afterlife arrangement? What is it? is it basically okay

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The actual conversation with the visitor was maybe not the most informative for that, but,

We know very little about how your world works. Why does Pharasma have first remit over all souls, even when they do not follow Her?

She's the Creator and also the goddess of death and Judgment. I'm actually very confused about why She's letting your soul-recycling program here function, I would have guessed She'd object, has She not commented at all?

She has never communicated anything to any gods of this world, that We know.

And, carefully rotating to the compressed-and-distorted record of a different conversation,

Are you and the other Velgarth gods against Leareth's plan because you have an arrangement with Pharasma about souls not going to their horrible afterlives?

The prophecies, we saw things happening and made different choices and - You, and all the other gods, probably couldn't see that either, or it would have already been taken into account and we'd have seen something else. Because it's a spell from another world. And if You knew about the other world, You wouldn't be confused about Pharasma. 

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Nirvana would take them. 

All the Good afterlives would take some of them. But Nirvana is specialized for redemption in a way Elysium and Heaven aren't, and Elysium at least has a lot of important social structures running on the fact that the average person is basically benevolent. 

Probably they can't Plane Shift random souls into whatever afterlife, though. Pharasma would be upset. On the other hand, Cayden would kind of have thought that Pharasma would be upset by this reincarnation situation, and yet here they are. Maybe she thinks of Velgarth people as being a weird kind of immortal or something. But he feels more uncertain now than he did before that they can't just Plane Shift everyone to Nirvana.

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The immortal would accept that, probably, if it were the only option. But it wouldn't substitute for the work he wants to do in the material world. And even knowing for sure that it's possible wouldn't untangle their current problem, with the Star-Eyed working against everything that would lead to mortal-level contact with the other world. 

Now how to communicate that...

The gods can't see right now. It's all happening at - the human level - and it doesn't make much sense either but at least we can talk to the man.

I don't know what you want. I don't know what the god you speak for wants. But I think You don't want ten million people dead. I'm also not sure You want anything as simple as Leareth permanently dead. There were forces at cross-purposes there, weren't there? I think maybe You were looking for a third way.

I think it's here and You can't see it. Maybe You can't even see that Leareth is already planning to call off the whole invasion! If that's what You wanted, it's done. Except there were plans already in motion, weren't there?

This is such a stupid pointless mess. Piles and piles of Foresight, steering for Leareth dead forever. 

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Okay, so there's an... archmage named Leareth... that someone wants dead, but you don't want them dead, and Leareth is planning to... kill ten million people in an invasion??? Why don't you want him dead again??? That's a lot of dead people! Cayden kind of wants Leareth dead! 

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Well, obviously They had never been intending to let Leareth succeed at the plan!

Communicating continues to be very hard, but maybe the next part of the Shadow-Lover's conversation with Vanyel will clarify things a bit? 

Was that the plan since Brightstar was born? The Star-Eyed killed his entire family, not even to drive Valdemar to war, just to hurt one boy enough that he would...

He was the one in the Heartstone room. Who shielded me out in the vision. He was going to destroy Haven to kill Leareth. Because it doesn't matter how powerful or prepared the man is, that would do it, it only makes sense if Leareth is there. 

That's why the backup plan was to Final Strike. To power the god-ritual. It would work, if Leareth was there.

Is that what You wanted. A clever twist, right at the end. Forcing Leareth to finding a better way by sticking him with a baby god that would never agree to grow up by killing ten million Valdemarans.

Just so you're aware, that plan is also horrible.

If the Shadowgod were capable of communicating more clearly, They would perhaps be communicating embarrassment about that part.

It had genuinely seemed like a very efficient and clever plan! It would have worked fine if not for the unexpected visitor from another world! And it would have been quite inexpensive for the god of the shadows, and very expensive for the Star-Eyed Goddess even though She wouldn't have gotten anything She wanted out of it! 

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Cayden traces back concepts until he feels, like, vaguely oriented. 

So, the status quo is that the archmage wants to make the Starstone (reasonable archmage behavior, to Cayden's mind) but has to kill ten million people to do it. So the Star-Eyed tried to get her cleric Brightstar to kill Leareth by arranging the death of his entire family (??? is the Star-Eyed Evil??? even most Neutral gods wouldn't use their clerics against their own purposes that hard). But then the Shadowgod rearranged things a different way so that Leareth accidentally ascends... some other person? Instead of himself? And that person doesn't want to be powered by ten million dead so Leareth has to come up with some other solution?

And now the Shadowgod is asking for some other way that doesn't involve nonconsensually making anyone a god? Does he want the plans for the Starstone? Cayden can probably get him the plans for the Starstone, some researchers in Elysium have been reverse-engineering it.

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The Shadowgod rotates concepts until that response mostly makes sense.

- yes, the immortal mage would definitely want the plans to the stone-that-ascends-people-to-godhood! The Shadowgod is not sure how to use it Themselves and can't...talk...to the immortal mage, Their avatar can only talk to souls that pass close to death. 

(This comes across very blurrily to Cayden but 'yes, We want that' is not that complex a concept to convey.) 

The problem is that - 

Maybe, just, if You could see the resources you have on the gameboard now, You could steer a way out of this disaster instead of deeper into it. Your first plan isn't going to work now that we know, but - You got us into this, or at least helped, and I don't know that we, the mortals involved, can get out of this on our own.

- and the Shadowgod is trying, but it's almost impossible to see and the Star-Eyed Goddess is panicking and burning even more resources to try to regain control - more rotating concepts - 

The Star-Eyed Goddess paid a great deal for the events to arrange this meeting, and achieved little of Her own aims

The Star-Eyed Goddess keeps trying to kill everyone involved in this, probably because She can't see either -

- is this expensive for Iomedae, You mustn't do anything expensive for Iomedae -

See, this soul belongs to Iomedae, but She apparently overreached Her resources too far to intervene now, and the Star-Eyed Goddess keeps trying to kill this soul for being noisy in Foresight. And there would be more paths if the other world can be contacted but that is going to be difficult to achieve if the Star-Eyed Goddess keeps intervening, They can prevent her from killing anyone permanently but it would be too expensive to try to prevent Her from acting at all... 

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Cayden Cailean is friends with Calistria. He genuinely likes her, has since before he ascended. What's the point of being one of the two thousand or so most powerful beings in Pharasma's Creation if you still have to put up with talking to people you don't like? 

But she is alien, alien on a level he didn't understand when he was human, didn't understand when he was newly ascended, only barely comprehends now. 'Vengeance' and 'lust' are mortal-concepts that only vaguely approximate the deeper thing, the thing mortals are too small to even begin to understand. Cayden had thought, for a long time, that mortals might struggle to understand godconcepts, but obviously gods understood mortals. Only through his friendship with Calistria did he begin to understand that that isn't true. Calistria is so old, and so big, and so alien, that mortal-concepts are as hard for her as god-concepts are for humans. 

To Cayden's mind, part of his friendship with Calistria is trying to explain to her that if she clerics both sides of a feud, then they both kill each other, and she gets less of the freedompassiondecisiontheory godconcept she wants. It is working. Sort of. He's optimistic.

Anyway, he's put in his ten million hours on trying to explain human concepts to incomprehensible ancient deities bent on violent mayhem. 

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He shoves all this at the Shadowgod as legibly as possible and accompanies it with "do you want me to go talk to her?"

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Yes!!!

The Shadowgod is...the same kind of thing as the Star-Eyed Goddess, but in this case at least, that does not make it easier to communicate. Also the Star-Eyed Goddess knows that They are opposed to Her getting more of what She wants, which does not make it easier to obtain that trust. There's - a concept of a thing that the Star-Eyed Goddess wants for mortals living in the material plane - that isn't just being able to see in Foresight, that isn't the only reason She is opposed to the immortal mage - but it isn't the same as the concept of the thing that the Shadowgod wants for mortals in the material plane, and They...do not actually understand it or know how to communicate it to the other god. 

The Shadowgod can point out "where" to find the Star-Eyed Goddess, though. 

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Hello, Star-Eyed Goddess! He is Cayden Cailean and he is here to talk to you about humans and how you can reach your goals in ways that involve less killing them!

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The Star-Eyed Goddess is in some ways a little less alien than the Shadowgod, a little less distant from the linear-time world of mortals. She doesn't have much trouble understanding the message. 

 

She is very very confused for other reasons! 

What does this god want. What is this god doing here. She doesn't know Him. Why does He want to tell Her about humans, what's in it for Him. 

(This is, again, not communicated incredibly clearly.) 

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Cayden shows her who he is, which for him involves a lot of illustrative cases. He cares about people being strong and happy and free; he cares about good times and good friends and not having to suck up to those with more power than you. And he really cares about people not being dead.

He's approaching the Star-Eyed in a spirit of friendship and helpfulness. He doesn't want to convince her of anything that goes against her own goals. (Maybe they would turn out, someday, to be enemies; he is conscious of this; but he never wants to assume someone is his enemy unless he's tried talking first.)

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What an oddly friendly god. 

 

The Star-Eyed Goddess thinks it's just not that big a deal when humans die, if it's not too many of them at once? They make more. The humans do pray for Her help about the very new ones dying, so it's good if you nudge for them to have lots of the Gifts that make fewer of them die for unclear reasons. But they don't pray desperately to Her about the ones who've been in the world for a long time, usually, so it seems like it doesn't bother them? Anyway you can keep the souls and put them back somewhere else. 

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He used to be a human before he was a god, and he died unexpectedly when he was, you know, reasonably old, and--

An old boyfriend he was planning to catch up with next week is kneeling and saying, "Cayden, you cock-breathed son of Geryon, you better have fucking ascended or I'll rip your balls off. You're the lucky drunk. You can't be dead. You're never dead. We were going to get dinner, I had a lead on this tomb in Osirion, and I miss you, you fucker, and being a god is bad enough but you can't just be gone. We all scraped together the money to pay for the scry and it can't find you anywhere and-- and--" And then instead of finishing his prayer he's sobbing--

He was going to teach his daughter to use a sword, she'd been begging him for years and she was finally sixteen. A friend had put on a play he was looking forward to. Thais and he were going to get a beer together and complain about old times in a nostalgic fashion. A tomb here, and some bandits to clear out there, and rumors of a lich over there. All his plans that he would never be able to finish. 

Mostly very old humans don't mind if they die because being old is painful and frustrating, and they aren't doing much anyway. But everyone she is trying to kill is doing things, has goals and projects and loves and good things they're looking forward to, and when they die they'll never get any of that ever again. 

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....That is in fact not an angle the Star-Eyed Goddess has seen before - the humans don't communicate all of that in their prayers to Her, at least not in a way that She can parse - and She spends a while rotating it. 

 

- the humans that have - goals and projects - that also isn't the angle on it She is familiar with but She can translate it easily enough, the thing where some humans carve deeper and straighter paths in Foresight, their threads harder to shift - anyway, some of them have dangerous projects and goals, is the thing. Like this one. 

She shows Cayden Cailean a god-memory in Foresight of what the Cataclysm looked like. She and Vkandis and several of the other gods - not all of the gods, there was no consensus then - had wanted the humans to stop being noisy, but - what ended up happening was so much worse, and it could only have happened because of this human. (Also another human, but that human is dead now and They know better than to put the soul back in the world now.) But this human keeps coming back and being noisy, and - 

 

- trying to convey the thing that She wants, that this human is pushing away from, that he would destroy without caring about what he's breaking - the humans are meant to live in a world that feels small and understandable to them, that's what they're shaped for, a Vale of a few hundred people where everyone can know everyone else's name (this is not exactly the terms in which the Star-Eyed Goddess thinks of it but Cayden can infer) - a world where they know what to expect for their children and their children's children, where there's a path for them to follow that makes sense to them - 

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Like this?

And Cayden sends over the Summerlands, Erastil's realm, land of farmers and hunters and herders, where the fields are always rich with wheat and rain never falls out of season, where there is no hunger or fear or disease. Where they hold festivals, as they have held them for time immemorial, and where tinkers and merchants come through with strange toys that delight the children, and where people form strong marriages and strong friendships and strong communities. Everyone takes care of each other, there. 

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Some parts of that are more - recognizable, resonant with the Star-Eyed Goddess - than others. (Some parts don't parse very well at all, or correspond to aspects of the material plane and mortal lives that She can only see indirectly in their Foresight shadow.) 

But...it's good. It's good and right and human souls will grow into a shape they should be, in that place. 

The immortal one does not want that. Where the immortal one acts, the world is - well, in some ways more similar to that vision, but not in the ways that the Star-Eyed Goddess can see and care about. 

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Cayden twists the view of the Summerlands and shows--

--the army of Heaven mustering in preparation for an incomprehensible battle for extraordinary stakes--

--a man and his wife kissing their families goodbye as they prepare to go to the Boneyard to raise the lost children there and teach them Good--

--two philosophers debating a subtle point of infinite ethics with extraordinary implications for how to handle the Abyss--

--the study of magic and science, brought to the point that they're the same, curiosity and the thirst for knowledge--

--art it would take many millennia to fully comprehend, and even more millennia to create--

--the Summerlands as a place of healing and rest and recovery and growth. A home for some people for all eternity, yes. But for others, somewhere to begin, somewhere from which they can become something strange and grand and glorious and as beautiful as the gods themselves--

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The Star-Eyed Goddess only follows some of that, but - it's vaguely alarming, no?

It seems like all of that would be so noisy in Foresight. She is confused why this other god doesn't seem bothered about that?

It's not just that noise-in-Foresight makes it difficult to manage Your resources. Sometimes noise in Foresight is hiding a Cataclysm. It's very very very important that the humans be predictable enough to steer away from more Cataclysms. The immortal one apparently does not understand this!!!! 

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The Star-Eyed seems very scared. 

It makes sense to Cayden Cailean to be scared. The Cataclysm is really scary. Things like the Cataclysm happened recently on the planet Cayden Cailean grew up on, too. (And here he shares a bit about the death of Aroden and the near-release of Rovagug.) When you're scared, it makes sense to want to cling to control as hard as you can. If you control everything about the world, then you can make it so nothing bad can happen. Lots of people-- gods and humans and maybe even the immortal one-- feel that way.

But-- when you're scared, when you're trying to keep everything that strongly in your control, it can cost you a lot. It has cost the Star-Eyed a lot. Cayden can see that. All the work she's done on k'Treva Vale, destroyed, so she has half a hope of killing the immortal one. 

Cayden has seen many people destroy themselves that way. Clinging so hard to control, to try to keep the bad things from happening, that they don't dare let anything good happen either. 

The only way out is to be brave. It is very hard to be brave, especially when the thing you're scared of is actually really bad, especially when you've been scared for a long long time. The Star-Eyed probably doesn't know how to stop being scared, anymore.

But it's hurting the humans and it's hurting her.

Cayden wants, very much, for her to try. 

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The Star-Eyed Goddess is indeed not sure how to stop being scared, but - recognition - it would be better, not to be. All of the gods were less scared, before the Cataclysm, and - it was easier, to achieve (the vision of the Summerlands as She recognizes it, the small communities and their traditions since time immemorial, the network of relationships and people supporting one another, children growing up with the safety-comfort-certainty of a well-understood world and place in it where they fit) - it was easier to achieve that with the humans, before the Cataclysm. Her pact with the Tayledras is a scaffolding to steer and build on but it's...not, actually, the original thing, that She had with Her people before...

 

The Vale would have been a reasonable expenditure of resources if it had worked but it didn't work and so the Star-Eyed Goddess is indeed frustrated at those resources being gone. 

(She does not seem to have any other appreciation of the human-level harm caused, or any concept of...promises or betrayals of those promises. She doesn't seem particularly sorry, just frustrated. It's not clear that She has ever observed 'sorry' as a godemotion.) 

She is also very frustrated with the immortal one for holding one of Her people where he's unable to act. That is definitely not good for humans! The immortal one cannot possibly argue that it's better! 

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...does she understand that destroying the Vale hurt her humans?

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...They aren't alive anymore and they didn't want to die when they were...? Though the dead souls aren't hurting now, and will be fine when she puts them back in the world again? There are not very many living people who are hurt by it, though, and the parents did not have to see their children die because they all died very quickly at the same time? The two who survived are hurt by everyone else being dead but that is not very many people. 

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Many people lived in the Vale and thought of it as their home (and here he pulls out the concept of safety-comfort-certainty of a world well-understood). She took their safety-comfort-certainty from them, forever. And from many others, too. From everyone who would otherwise have thought "things like that don't happen here, the Star-Eyed will keep us safe."

And the humans had worked hard, for many generations, to make the Vale beautiful and safe, and she'd destroyed it. She hates it when people disturb her projects; so do humans. 

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She...seems amenable to the line of argument that She harmed Her people more than She had realized, but is still confused? None of them are experiencing a lack of safety-comfort-certainty. And it's not like a Vale being destroyed never happens, some of them were destroyed in the same way many centuries ago.

(Those ones were actually accidents; there were many other times when She had nudged for the accidents that could have happened to not happen, but She had a lot to do and less to work with after the Cataclysm, and - some of the Vales would have been harder to steer in Foresight and so She did not try as hard to preserve them when it would have been costly to nudge.) 

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Okay. There is clearly a lot of work to do. He is going to take this from the top--

Wait a minute. He peers at the human who is being held by the immortal one. 

Star-Eyed Goddess, what are you doing to that human???

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What? Oh, that one. 

...The Star-Eyed is still going to be confused about Cayden Cailean's question because, from Her perspective, She isn't doing anything in an active ongoing sense. She did send him a vision a while ago? Is that what He means? It's true that giving humans visions seems to be damaging to them in some way even if She is very careful about it. The human sought it out first, though, he came to the Moonpaths and actively tried to get her attention. Also She can't un-send the vision now. 

(Also he is a Tayledras Healing-Adept, one of Her people, born into the pact that his ancestors made almost two thousand years ago, and - by dint of being a Healing-Adept - very very steerable by Her. She isn't doing anything with that right now, though, since he's gotten himself completely boxed into a corner in Foresight by the immortal one's allies and none of the ways She could nudge will actually do anything.) 

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Here, Cayden can bounce over what it looks like to him--

The human's mind is very loud, to Cayden's godsenses, and the thing it's screaming is trapped. It looks like there are chains of some kind wrapped around the human's mind, chains so old that the human's mind has grown around them. They normally didn't limit the human much. But now the human's mind keeps half-forming these thoughts, and then the chain tightens and the thoughts are cut off and the human hurts. The human can barely think at all, in fact, except about trivialities, because every time the human tries to think deeply about his situation the chain stops him.

The human is in a lot of pain. He is scared and alone. 

It is one thing to take the human's body prisoner, and Cayden is pretty annoyed with the archmade too. But it is far worse to take the human's mind as a prisoner. 

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This is probably because of the pact?

The Star-Eyed Goddess could...not previously see the trappedness...and it does look like someone is being hurt. 

...She could release him from the pact but She doesn't think that the human wants to not be Hers anymore? Humans who want to not be Hers anymore can decide not to be - see, the other human here, the other survivor of k'Treva, is not under the pact anymore. But if she releases a human from the pact who did still want to be Hers then She...thinks...that might hurt the human as well? 

Also She doesn't actually understand why the pact is doing that. It does not normally do that. If She knew why then She could maybe send the human a vision - he's a Healing-Adept, it wouldn't be that expensive - but She doesn't understand what would have to be different for the human to be un-trapped. 

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Cayden does not share that Velgarth clerics sound incredibly worrying. 

He does share that it looks like the thought this human wants to have is "the Star-Eyed might have made a mistake." Would it be possible to-- loosen something up to let him think that?

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...The Star-Eyed still does not really conceive of the things that happened as "She made a mistake" but She is familiar with the concept that humans sometimes need to be told things in visions that are not actually true in order for the vision to have the intended effect. She can tell the human the thing that the other god is showing her and then he'll be able to think about it, does the other god think that would fix it? 

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Wow! He hates every part of how the Star-Eyed relates to her humans!

He doesn't let this sentiment through to his communication with her. Instead, he lets her know that he thinks that would probably work fine. 

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That Star-Eyed Goddess seems on board with this! She will send the human a vision and then at least one of the ways that Her people are still being hurt because of the Vale's destruction will be fixed? 

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That sounds good!

All right, so, Cayden wants to try again to explain why humans would be upset that the Vale is destroyed--

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They're still in the stupid dream. 

It's actually surprisingly hard to keep track of how much time has passed. Nothing in the dream changes; the sky is the same, the army is the same. The winter is the same and Vanyel is starting to get really tired of being cold. He knows it's not real but that does not really make it less unpleasant. 

Also he's bored. You would think that this would be very low down on the list of concerns and that surely he and Leareth would be able to think of plenty to talk about, and yet. 

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Leareth is leaning back against the snow-chair he shaped. The air inside the snow-hut they built is well below room temperature, but it's at least not desperately uncomfortable with cold-weather gear. (Presumably one cannot actually get hypothermia from a Foresight dream but it's still uncomfortable.) 

 

"...I could explain more of the math we were working on before." They've been sitting in silence for twenty minutes since the last exchange of speculation about what might be happening in the outside world, and Leareth has run out of productive topics to mull on internally. 

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"Sorry, can we not?" Vanyel drags a hand over his face. "I don't think I'm up for math." He knows it's not helping anything to be ruminating miserably on whether Savil is dead and it's somehow his fault for letting himself be sucked into the Foresight dream in the middle of a high-stakes working, but he can't seem to stop. 

Yfandes liked math don't think about that now.

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Fine, then Leareth will put a false-magic illusion up on the wall of their tiny snow hut and do math by himself. It's frustrating not having access to any notes or anyone to bounce ideas off, but it turns out he's somewhat allergic to sitting around doing literally nothing. 

 

 

...Dream-magic should not be tiring, but Leareth is definitely starting to notice a feeling of tiredness. He's forming a growing suspicion that perhaps the Foresight dream is not actually very restful. It doesn't actually seem to be possible to tell what's going on with his actual non-dream body, but if it's been multiple candlemarks, it seems likely both of them are going to be getting hungry. Maybe that explains some of Vanyel's increasing moodiness. 

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...Actually being alone with his thoughts is the worst idea in the world. 

"Can we talk about something that isn't math? Please. Tell me things about the Eastern Empire or something?" 

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Leareth had just managed to think of an interesting problem to attack and now he's lost his entire train of thought. 

He takes a deep breath and manages not to snap at Vanyel. "Could you give me a more specific prompt than 'the Eastern Empire' in full generality?" A lot of facts about the Empire that he could get into are the kind of thing Vanyel would find depressing. 

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"Um." Vanyel rubs his eyes. "Education system?" 

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Sure. Leareth can probably come up with some things to say about the Eastern Empire's education system to distract Vanyel from - whatever it is that he clearly doesn't want to be dwelling on instead. 

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And everything else continues to be exactly the same, until - 

 

 

"Um? Where...are you...oh it's a snow house. Hey! I'm coming over!" 

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What. 

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Well, see, the last time Stef fell asleep cuddling Vanyel and Vanyel had the Foresight dream, Stef got pulled into it! And they eventually had the thought that this might work even if the dream situation is...weird. 

(They were not absolutely sure Stef could get out of the dream again afterward, even if they have someone move him so he's no longer touching Van. But at least they can get a message across one way.) 

 

He stomps through the snow. It's freezing. Why can't he have a dream Endure Elements

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Vanyel manages to get his mind into gear enough to stand up and nudge aside the slab of melted-and-refrozen dream ice they're using as a door. 

"Stef? What in the world are you doing here." 

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"Move out of the way and let me in, it's really goddamned cold out here." Stef shoves his way into the ice-hut. "...Heya, Leareth." 

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The hut is not really sized to fit three people comfortably. Vanyel wedges himself into a corner to make room for Stef while avoiding encroaching on Leareth's personal space. 

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Why would Stef care about Leareth's personal space. He sprawls. 

"Right. Update. Heartstone in Haven is shut down, Savil was fine. Well, pretty worn out, but not hurt. It's been - eight candlemarks, give or take? We don't know for sure which god is responsible for sticking you here, probably the Star-Eyed? Seldan tried to get the Shadowgod's attention and - didn't exactly get a message but maybe got a hunch? That the Shadowgod isn't - worried about there being a next step to the plot, Seldan said he was definitely getting 'not worried' - but apparently also isn't in a hurry to break you out." 

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Leareth makes no comment about Stef attempting to prop his feet in Leareth's lap. 

"I suppose it might be convenient for Them as well if we are creating less noise in Foresight," he says dryly. 

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Vanyel clears his throat. "And everyone else is all right? Blai? Jisa?"

Brightstar is almost certainly not all right and Vanyel can't quite bring himself to ask. 

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Shrug. "Blai and Seldan are all right as far as I know. Jisa was still at the other base wherever that is, I haven't heard from her but I didn't hear anything was wrong either." 

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After a minute or two of silence, Stef flops dramatically against Vanyel's shoulder. 

 

"...Well, I guess I'm not getting pulled out of the dream and I'm stuck with you. I'm bored." 

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"That's unfortunate." Vanyel feels like Stef kind of signed himself up for this, though? He does not feel like he has the energy to entertain his lifebonded here for the next however-many-candlemarks. 

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Dramatic sigh. 

 

"...We should have a threesome or something."

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"What? Why are you looking at me like that? It's a great way to kill time in a lucid dream." 

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"Are you speaking from experience?" Leareth says dryly. 

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Vanyel is not sure he's ever been this mortified in his entire life. 

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It's been nine candlemarks - it's now pretty late at night - and Seldan has relayed a couple of updates, most recently that they're going to try to send Stef into the dream. 

He gently interrupts Blai again. :Unfortunately they're still stuck in the dream. Stef too, trying to pull him away from Vanyel and wake him didn't work - though at least it probably did work to get them an update on the Heartstone. It's going to start to be a problem if it's too much longer, the Healers can only get liquids into them safely.: 

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:There's... a weird spell that I'm not sure if Iomedaeans get, but I can try asking for it, which can nourish people in their sleep...:

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:...Huh.: The magic from Blai's world is so oddly specific. :You have to wait until dawn to ask for it anyway, right? I can pass on the idea, you might as well try it - well, hmm, does it waste the spell slot if it turns out Iomedae can't give it to you?: 

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:No, I'll be able to tell that it's not working and have time to exchange it.:

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:Then it sounds like there's not much downside to asking?: 

In the meantime they should probably try to get some sleep. 

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Yup.

In the morning he asks for Dream Feast. He's never tried asking for it before - it's an incredibly bizarre use case, you almost never need to specifically feed someone in their sleep -

- and apparently he can have it. Does he need three of it, is it single target - it is single target but since they're in the same dream maybe they could just share, he doesn't know, does Seldan think it's worth three slots? Or two, maybe, Stef has spent less time in there.

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Seldan has no idea if they ought to be able to share if they're in a shared dream! It's baffling to him that the spell exists at all and he doesn't have any detailed predictions of how it works. 

Stef is probably less urgent, they were anticipating the problem and he went in well-fed, but he's also - not that physically robust - and might well have problems before tomorrow if it turns out they can't share. Vanyel is in the worst shape - Savil thinks he skipped breakfast, and of course he was in the middle of an exhausting magical working - Leareth is going to be feeling it at this point but isn't at the point where he would have medical problems caused by lack of food before dawn tomorrow. 

Then again, who knows what's going to happen before tomorrow morning! It might be important for Leareth to be in good shape for a fight. Possibly Blai should ask for three just in case, and if the Healers see signs of improvement in all of them with one casting, that probably means they can share and Blai can save the remaining spells and cast them at intervals over the day instead?  

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Three Dream Feasts is most of his first circle slots but he can drop them for Cures if they're unnecessary and if they're necessary better to have them, that checks out. Three Dream Feasts it is. Any input on the rest of the slots?

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Oh, right, he can convert most spells into healing if he needs that more than the specific spell. Not too much of an opportunity cost, then. 

 

And, hmm. They're probably not going to end up in combat today - and have access to a lot of Velgarth mages to help defend them - but preparing some kind of defensive spell just in case might still be a good precaution? Blai's spells are often really specific so it's harder to pick one that would be useful in an arbitrary fight, but the summoning one is a rare ability for Velgarth mages and would also be useful if Leareth does manage to get out of the dream today and wants to research travel to Blai's world.

Lesser Restoration might be useful if Vanyel or Leareth wake up not at their best and need to be urgently able to function at full capacity - the Healers were concerned that being stuck in the dream also doesn't count as real sleep and they'll be exhausted even if they get out of it. The prophecy spell seems generically useful? Oh right and they were speculating on spells that would be noisy and retroactively punish the Star-Eyed Goddess for all of her shit, but didn't really make a decision on that... 

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Lesser Restoration does work well on fatigue, he'll prepare two of those and if they don't need them there's probably someone else around who could use it, maybe the king if he's not up to as good as Lesser Restorations can get him yet. Minor Prophecy. A second circle Summon Monster. Remove Curse, he only has room for one but it might work on getting one dreamer out if it counts as a curse and the Star-Eyed didn't put too much oomph into it. Air Bubble. Same orisons as usual.

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All of that seems sensible to Seldan! 

Once Blai is done getting spells, he can ask someone to direct them to wherever they've stashed Vanyel and Leareth and now Stef? Or Blai can have his own breakfast first if he wants, it's not like it's urgent on the level of minutes. 

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He can go Dream Feast Vanyel first, he's not himself nearly as hungry as Vanyel must be.

"Dream Feast."

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Vanyel is huddled in the snow hut, feeling really abjectly miserable given how nothing actually awful is happening. He has a headache. He's not sleepy, apparently the dream doesn't allow that, but he's increasingly aware of the background exhaustion. 

He's hugging his knees and ruminating on how everything is going to be terrible forever and probably the gods will permakill Leareth and it's going to be Vanyel's fault personally, and then - 

 

 

- abruptly there's a truly spectacular spread of food in front of him. 

There's so much food! What. There are food items there that Vanyel hasn't seen in years - that dessert is from Kata'shin'a'in, that fruit is one that was sold in the markets in Jkatha when they passed through... That one he hasn't had since he was a child. 

Why?????????? 

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"Huh!" Stef leans forward curiously. "That looks delicious, can I have some?" 

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"Don't touch it." Vanyel is staring at the food with confused alarm. "That's...never happened before..." 

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Leareth is mostly looking curious rather than alarmed. "Interesting. - Blai's magic can create food, no?" 

 

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"Dream food?" Vanyel is still giving the feast such a suspicious look. "....I don't know. Maybe, I guess." 

It does look really good. 

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"Oh, come on. If you're just going to sit there looking at it..." Stef steals a pastry and takes a nibble. "Wow. This is really good." 

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Leareth's lips are perhaps twitching faintly into a smile. "Well. I suppose one way to find out if this is hostile is to wait and see if anything happens to the Bard." 

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....Well, that's a confusing but hopeful observation? 

 

The Healers report to Blai that, uh, it looks like Stef specifically is showing signs visible to Healing-Sight of having had nourishment? Which, uh, if he's sure he cast it on Vanyel, it does seem like it implies that the effect of the spell extends to people other than the person it was cast on? Maybe Vanyel is just taking his time about trying it? They can wait and keep watching. 

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It makes sense that they'd have one of them be a poison tester and Stef certainly seems like the most expendable of the three.

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Seldan cannot imagine Vanyel willingly using Stef as a poison tester but he can picture Leareth nudging for that without making the reasoning explicitly. Anyway, the food in fact isn't poisonous so hopefully they'll notice that soon. 

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The Healers do in fact report ten minutes later that Leareth is now showing some positive signs - 

 

 

- and, great, so is Vanyel. They were starting to get worried. 

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Seldan had also been a bit worried that Vanyel might be having enough of an emotional breakdown in the dream to be incapable of eating dream food - it can't be a great environment for him, and of course Yfandes is still dead - so that's a relief, and it seems like he and Blai are free to leave now? 

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Seems like it. Unclear where they should go, but they can go wherever that should be and read more Acts maybe.

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How about breakfast! And then back to their room, if no one seems to need anything from them. 

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Breakfast sounds good. He will go read the Acts over breakfast.

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Several hundred miles away:

 

Enara nudges at Jisa's mind. :Jisa, wake up.: 

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:Mmm...?: Jisa was having such a nice dream about Treven, though tragically not a lucid shared one. :- M'awake. What is it?: 

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:Sorry, love - it's a few candlemarks past dawn, I didn't want to disturb you after you were up late but. Something's happening with Brightstar.: 

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The entire reason Jisa was up late was because she spent candlemarks with Featherfire, trying to talk to Brightstar - not even interrogating him, just trying to help him be less miserable - and, after giving up on that, trying to get him to sleep without using incredibly invasive Mindhealing on him. Eventually she did just ask one of Leareth's Healers to make him sleep, it's not as restful as natural sleep but it's better than nothing. 

Anyway, that was not what she wanted to hear, and she's actually awake now! 

:What? Something bad -?: 

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:I don't know.: But Enara's mindvoice is tense. :Featherfire is asking for you, though.: 

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Mrgghhbhhhh okay she's up. Getting up. ...Actually up now. :I'm on my way.: 

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Featherfire is in the room where they've been keeping Brightstar.

(It's a Work Room, but Jisa did put some effort into making it comfortable; there's a bed with a portable frame, and a bedside table. Brightstar did not seem to care.) 

 

"I don't know what happened!" Featherfire looks kind of panicked. "He just - stopped responding to me - and now he's -" 

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Curled up in a ball sobbing, apparently. 

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Well, he was pretty miserable before but something seems different about this. 

"Brightstar?" she says tentatively. "It's Jisa. What's going on?" She's not really expecting an answer, or any acknowledgement at all. 

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This time, though, he lifts his tearstained face and actually meets her eyes. 

"I - Jisa - I cannot -" 

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Huh. Something is definitely different. 

 

Jisa starts to reach for her Sight, and then hesitates. It does go against an awful lot of the lessons that Melody drummed into her, to use her Sight – let alone active Mindhealing – on someone who isn't even slightly agreeing to it.

It really didn't feel like she had much of a choice, before, and she doesn't think Melody would argue with that, but - it's been over a day. The situation isn't exactly stable, but things aren't moving especially quickly either. 

 

She lets out her breath, and cautiously crosses the room to sit down next to Brightstar, not quite close enough to touch. Does he seem to react to this at all, either well or badly? 

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He whimpers faintly, but not really in a way that seems like he wants her to go away. He maybe leans slightly closer to her. 

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Well. There could definitely be worse reactions than that. 

"Brightstar, can you talk to me and say what's going on? ...If that's too hard, I can use my Sight, is that all right?" 

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Jerky nod. 

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Sight. 

 

 

 

 

 

....Wow, okay, that's a. Something. Brightstar's mind was already in fairly disturbing shape, but whatever that is looks recent. From minutes ago, maybe. 

"Your Goddess talked to you?" she guesses. It seems like it has to be either that or a different god, which would be even less explicable. 

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Brightstar's shoulders relax slightly, in apparent relief. He nods. 

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No wonder he's having a hard time explaining, then, he's probably still pretty disoriented. Jisa wants to avoid pushing him too hard, in the immediate aftermath, but it does seem important to know details. 

 

 

He's engaging with her at all, when he wasn't before. He's not less miserable, but - differently miserable? 

He wanted her to know what had happened. That feels like it should be informative, though Jisa is still struggling to guess what exactly the Star-Eyed Goddess might have said to produce this result. 

"...Did the Goddess say it was all right to talk to me?" Surely that can't possibly be it. 

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Frustrated headshake. 

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And indeed that wasn't it! 

"But, um, She...said something else that made you decide it was all right to talk to me?" 

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Brightstar seems to take a while to process this, and then nods. 

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Right. 

Jisa is just going to sit here for a bit trying to think of hypotheses before she makes him process anything else, while keeping her body language as reassuring as possible.

 

Featherfire speculated that the Star-Eyed Goddess had done something to Brightstar's head. Or - maybe not exactly that, but that the Tayledras pact had a stronger effect on him, because he was a Healing Adept? That he literally couldn't question what She had asked of him when he apparently went and spoke to Her directly, and that was why he couldn't engage with any of it. 

...surely She wouldn't have - would She have - 

 

"Brightstar," Jisa says carefully, "did the goddess release you from the pact?" 

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That gets a reaction: a strong flinch and look of horror. 

"No, no, no, no -" Brightstar curls up into himself. "Still Hers. Always." 

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"Right. It's all right, I didn't– that's good." Jisa is not at all sure she thinks it's good but it's clearly important to her brother. "...Can you tell me what She said?" 

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It takes him a long time. 

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Jisa doesn't interrupt. It's a very effortful not-interruption, she wants to knoooooooow, but she still has Sight up on him and, while it doesn't let her see his thoughts - he's not really shielding, with his Gifts blocked, but she didn't ask permission to use Thoughtsensing too - she can tell that his mind is busy. 

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"She - She said, that...

 

 

 

...can you...just read me...?" Brightstar seems to be finding it very difficult to speak. 

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Huh. Jisa is relieved, obviously - she can't exactly say 'pleased', the situation is still too upsetting and downright confusing for positive emotions - and also really surprised. What did the Goddess say to him to prompt this entire comprehensive change in attitude?

(Maybe it shouldn't be as surprising a shift as it feels. It's really just rolling things back to the way Brightstar trusted her implicitly a week ago. But still.) 

Fortunately, apparently she's about to find out. 

"Of course, if you'd rather– if that's easier." 

Thoughtsensing? 

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The path I chose might have been a mistake, the Goddess said to him. What I asked of you might have been a mistake.

 

That's all. It's a very distant note, behind all of the confused exhausted misery, but Brightstar could really have used more clarification. 

Where do you even go from there. It's - he can't even think about it, it's too big and too terrible and even just the edges of it hurt too much - but Jisa is there and so he has to, the Goddess wouldn't have spoken to him directly unless it was important... 

 

He. Did things, for Her. Things that She wouldn't have asked of him unless it were incredibly important and the only way, he does believe that - he has to believe that - but. She might have been wrong. There might have been another way, and maybe it was, maybe it was all– he can't quite finish that thought, not yet. 

There's nothing left. That's a thought that he can finish; it hurts, but in a familiar way that he's almost too tired to feel. He burned everything he had - the Star-Eyed burned everything She had - in a desperate last-ditch effort, and now it's. Gone. His family. His friends. Jisa and Father are alive but they're not, they're not... 

....he doesn't expect Vanyel to forgive him. He doesn't expect Jisa to forgive him. That's not why it's important that she knows. It's important because...because... 

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Oh no

 

...Jisa catches herself before she can give into the temptation to say whatever first comes to mind - that of course she forgives him, that of course Vanyel will forgive him - that might stop him from being so sad. He's not being upset at her. She doesn't know if what he needs most right now is someone trying to make him feel better, which is probably a doomed endeavor anyway. And - she doesn't know, yet, if any of the things she's so tempted to say are true. She hasn't thought about it. Her feelings really weren't the priority, and of course it's not up to her how Van feels. 

She also ignores a brief urge to rush out of the room and figure out the fastest way to contact Leareth Vanyel Nayoki, given that the first two people on her list are out of contact, and anyway, it can keep. Jisa bolting out of the room ten seconds after getting his permission to read him is definitely not what Brightstar needs. 

 

 

She'll just sit with him for a minute, being with him, and thinking. She doesn't love that a conversation with her brother feels like one of her most fraught patient sessions. She could always just say what she was thinking with him, before.

 

"...Some of it is fixable," she says, quietly, after a long time. "Blai's world has resurrection. We can bring back the kyree. And - I wouldn't've been sure - but if the Goddess -" It's coming out all disjointed, and she gives up. "- I think we can bring back your parents. I - it won't make everything all right, I know there are things that can't be all right - but it's something." 

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Brightstar tenses, and then sags back against the wall. 

 

 

(His thoughts are still a muddy, despairing tangle. He's only half hearing what Jisa is saying, and only a quarter able to think about it. It's hard to find any hope, in all of that. But there's, maybe, something that isn't just pain.) 

(He's so tired.) 

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Featherfire is still there, and giving Jisa a very confused look. 

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...Right, of course, most of what Jisa just got up to speed on was via Thoughtsensing and the part out loud must seem completely inexplicable to Featherfire. 

"It's - maybe good -" Jisa shakes herself slightly. "I think it's good news." Jisa might be incredibly confused, which she doesn't like, but just because she cannot even slightly think what could prompt the Star-Eyed Goddess, of all...not people...to do an about-face like this, doesn't mean that it's a bad thing.

Unless it's a trick? To get them to let down their guard around Brightstar? Does that make any sense? What could the rest of the plot possibly be - 

Featherfire is now looking even more confused. Jisa shrugs, and switches to Mindspeech, on the basis that Brightstar's feelings about all of the everything are very messy and she doesn't need to force him to dwell on it any more than necessary. 

:The Goddess apparently told him She might have made a mistake. I...have no idea why? Either what in the world prompted Her to change Her mind about this, or why it seemed worth an entire vision to tell Brightstar so? It's - not like it's making him any more okay right now.: 

Yet. Brightstar clearly isn't anywhere close to ready to actually talk through it, but...it feels like there might, just possibly, be a way forward now. Leareth will do his research and figure out how to Gate to Golarion, and Blai can help them find clerics willing to take their gold and diamonds to resurrect their dead - they'll get Yfandes back quickly, her body is safe, but that will go a long way toward helping Brightstar believe that Vanyel might possibly be able to forgive him. (Some quiet thoughtful part of Jisa is noticing that she's more worried about that than about Vanyel's actual ability to forgive Brightstar.) Getting Starwind and Moondance back will cost more, she thinks? Since they don't have bodies? But at least it sounds like the Star-Eyed Goddess might let them. And it will still be a very long time before things are okay, but...they can be. Someday. 

 

...Well, unless it's a plot to get them to let down their guard around Brightstar so that the Star-Eyed can unexpectedly possess him to do something horrible later. That possibility just occurred to Jisa, so who knows what other horrifying explanations will occur to her later once she's gotten some chava into herself and can think properly. She should probably get an update to Nayoki, at some point, but it doesn't seem incredibly urgent - they should still be keeping Brightstar somewhere secure, he's still in no condition to answer questions cooperatively assuming he even knows any more helpful and answers, and she can't ask Leareth for his advice until the stupid dream thing is dealt with, which one hopes might happen soon if it was the Star-Eyed's doing but who knows, really. Jisa will get on a comms spell after she's consumed enough chava to be properly coherent and not embarrass herself talking to Leareth's staff. 

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The Star-Eyed Goddess is limited, right now, to operating in something much closer to linear time than the gods of Velgarth generally do.

The intensely baffling god from the other world is being quite helpful with this, actually! It eventually became clear to Her that the other god's world doesn't even have Foresight, because of their Cataclysm, which is an even more terrifying and awful consequence to be left with than anything She has faced with the unsteerable soul that won't stop popping up over and over again and doing things. And yet the friendly god isn't scared by it, because He has other ways to see. And is remarkably patient, but learning new ways to see and to communicate to mortals is not going to be instantaneous. It might take quite a long time.

In the meantime, the friendly god is less indignant about that part than about Her relations with Her own people, and from Her perspective it would be much simpler for everything if the noisy one can stay put until She has a plan - to set right some of the damage that the friendly god has, at this point, convinced Her that She really dealt, but importantly, a plan that DOES NOT RISK ANY CATACLYSMS even though NONE OF THEM CAN SEE WHAT THEY'RE DOING - and until She can figure out how to convey a message with more content.

The noisy soul is probably also very scared, just like She and the other gods are, which is...a new angle on some of the spectacularly obnoxious past ripples left by that soul on the world...and maybe She can do something about that but She doesn't, yet, know how. 

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The other gods indeed mostly can't see what They're doing, not well enough to plan in ways that aren't wildly clumsy and correspondingly costly, but it is visible to other gods that the Star-Eyed Goddess is doing something unusual. 

Something almost entirely unlike a conversation is taking place. Hypothetically, if it was a conversation in a form recognizable to mortals, it might include the words WHAT ARE YOU DOING?

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The plan didn't work. It's as simple as that. It should have worked, it was a well-constructed plan, none of Them could actually have predicted that it wouldn't, but then things that They couldn't possibly have predicted - because they originated in a different world that, get this, DOESN'T HAVE FORESIGHT - and the plan didn't work. The adjustments to the plan didn't work. The wildly costly, last-ditch, half-blind efforts didn't work. They're exhausting Their resources, cornering Themselves, running out of angles to act, and besides, at this point They can't see if the Foresight noise is hiding a possible Cataclysm. That would be very bad and it isn't worth it. 

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Maybe She is all out of resources and angles to act and has gotten Herself cornered by letting Their enemy box in Her most useful mortal. That doesn't mean that Everyone is. 

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....But it would be very bad to be so afraid of the noisy soul causing another Cataclysm that They cause one by accident because They can't see???

The noisy soul might be convinced to just go to the other world, which would solve all of Their problems, right. The gods in that world wouldn't even object because They somehow managed to break Foresight by having a Cataclysm. Which is a very important risk of Cataclysms to know about!!! They didn't try asking the noisy soul to do things before, because it was completely obvious it wouldn't work, but right now They can't see what will or won't work anyway, and the friendly god from the world with broken Foresight is being very helpful at showing Her how to translate to mortals. He used to be one! That was something that took Her quite a long time to actually grasp but He has been very diligently explaining!

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They should absolutely not be following any godadvice from gods in the world that managed to have a Cataclysm and break Foresight!!!! Can the Star-Eyed not see why that would be a bad idea???? 

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Actually the Star-Eyed thinks that it makes perfect sense to learn what went wrong so They can avoid it? If They had ended up in contact with another world where no Cataclysms had happened, wouldn't it be a good idea to explain to the gods there how to keep it that way? 

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If this were actually a conversation, which it isn't, the response might be something like "ARGHHHHHHHHHH!" followed by storming off in frustration. 

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...Vkandis does that sometimes. The Star-Eyed Goddess will go back to learning things about how mortals work from Cayden.

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It's impossible to keep track of time very well in the dream, when nothing whatsoever changes in their surroundings and everything has a distant, timeless sort of feeling, but it can't have been that long since the mysterious food appeared. Leareth is definitely tired. It's starting to feel a lot like the experience of being on strong stimulants after a full day and night awake, the dream won't let him feel sleepy but he definitely feels stupid. It's not building very fast, though, and the nourishment of the dream meal, however bizarre the concept, does seem to have helped. Leareth feels less of a desperate need to conserve energy. 

Unfortunately, having more energy also means more of it is available to be stressed. Which helps with nothing. There are no other precautions or preparations Leareth can take from here; all he can do is remember, over and over, that he knows he was in a secure base in the north when he collapsed. Stef reported that Nayoki had the situation under control. They have at least some evidence to believe that Blai is still alive. 

 

Leareth settles on thinking out loud about where he left off in Golarion-finding research, using an illusion as a writing-surface. The circumstances aren't ideal for making progress on magic research, but it's in principle something that he could make productive headway on even stuck here. 

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Stef spends a while spectating this in fascinated bemusement. 

 

"...Van, do you understand any of the words he's saying?" 

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Yfandes would understand it

Vanyel shakes his head, helplessly. Everything hurts and his thoughts keep wandering off cliffs and it's only getting worse as the exhaustion builds. Leareth isn't acting like everything is doomed forever and ever, so that probably isn't a trustworthy thought, but even after a meal, Vanyel is having trouble dragging his mind onto any other thoughts. 

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Stef is SO BORED. 

 

"So you're fixing your immortality thing, right?" he says conversationally to Leareth, once Leareth seems to have reached a stopping point, or at least gotten stuck, and stopped rambling out loud in math words. "Maybe while you're at it you could make one for Van too?" 

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STEF

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Leareth doesn't tense up very visibly at all. To someone who doesn't know him - and Stef doesn't, really, know him - it wouldn't show at all. 

 

(Leareth is trying to fix it, obviously, but - it might be too late. Even with Brightstar secured, the Star-Eyed Goddess has to know more now than She did before. He can't count on it, anymore, even once it's repaired. Golarion could offer alternatives, of course, or at least a place to work outside the reach of the gods here, but - he knows so little about the other world, and he's still days or weeks of research away from reaching it. More, if things keep happening to drag his attention away, and so of course the gods will be trying everything They can to distract him...) 

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Leareth is scared. It's been getting more noticeable, over the uncountable candlemarks they've been trapped here. Probably just like Vanyel's own stupid morass of despair; it's harder to stay on top of it the longer this goes on. And, of course, the longer this goes on, the more reason they have to think that Leareth's organization can't solve it for them from the outside. 

For maybe the third or fourth time, he considers whether there's any way to talk to the Shadow-Lover from here. Inconveniently, the dream setting was more or less designed as a place where he and Leareth couldn't do anything to really harm each other. He can't reach his real Gifts at all; no way to stop his own heart with Healing. Injuries in a dream won't affect his real body. No way of getting a message out that they need to kill him (just a little bit, temporarily), and that's assuming that anyone would be willing to act on that request, which - no. 

It's still tempting to think about it, though. It takes Vanyel a while to drag himself away. 

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Vkandis is unhappy with the situation. 

 

Unhappy is an understatement. The Star-Eyed Goddess is off making baffling and dangerous unilateral decisions, and Vkandis is, in fact, just about completely out of any useful leverage with Her. 

It should have worked. The backup plan should have worked. As a consolation, the Star-Eyed should have at least been able to take the noisy other-world soul out of the picture. But everything keeps not working - even when They could make out enough in Foresight to lay down hasty, clumsy walls to steer the mortals, abruptly everything would shift again for no reason. That isn't supposed to happen. 

The other world is obviously to blame for the new problems. Their Cataclysm broke Foresight, and clearly it's spreading, and the Star-Eyed Goddess is blind to it, probably because She sees some temporary advantage to imitate the Shadowgod and win a temporary advantage for Herself out of it. 

 

But Vkandis is not, in fact, out of all leverage. Just out of subtle options. 

Some plans are brutally simple. The kind of thing that the Star-Eyed Goddess, let alone the Shadowgod, would never think of because it's too...inelegant. It is inelegant, not to mention enormously wasteful. 

But it literally should not matter that He can't, actually, see in Foresight how it plays out. There's only one way it can play out. 

The immortal soul is not, currently, immortal – that much, Vkandis is certain He would see shift in Foresight, however blurred it is. But the window to act on that opportunity is narrowing. 

 

Vkandis has been maintaining a barrier over Iftel for almost two thousand years. If there's just one thing He understands that doesn't rely on Foresight in the slightest, it's the forces and energy contained in that barrier.

 

It will be a Cataclysm of sorts. But one that He can aim almost entirely at territory that literally nobody cares about, because the only one doing anything with it is the (not currently immortal) soul. 

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The Star-Eyed should have been able to see it coming. Would have, if She had been attending to Her Foresight senses rather than mostly trying to ignore the chaos to talk to the friendly god from the other world, who of course cannot see anything over here. 

...Even once it's too late and She can see that it - that something - is already happening, She can't really see what. Some kind of insane Vkandis thing? It doesn't not look like another Cataclysm, stumbling around a corner in Foresight and metaphorical-face-first into a wall. 

She would warn her Healing-Adept, for all the good it might do, but - warn the human of what

 

She flings out a pretty-much-contentless warning anyway - not conveying any real information should make it less disruptive, Cayden has been explaining to Her some details of why it's often not good for humans to talk to gods who were never human Themselves - and She kicks the various humans out of the Foresight dream construct, because at this point that really seems unlikely to make anything worse, and Cayden has just been making the very good point that the mortals are better at having senses that aren't Foresight and might, actually, know what's happening, and She abruptly wants the immortal one to pull out one of those horribly inconvenient twisty route-arounds, which would serve Vkandis right. 

And then She can do the metaphorical equivalent of yelling at Vkandis, and also at the Shadowgod for not doing anything, because She might have been busy but She does not think for a moment that They would have entirely missed it. 

 

(From Cayden Cailean's perspective, the other god has with no warning started blocking His godcommunications, despite the fact that the conversation seemed to have been going fine.) 

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The barrier is primarily formed of mage-energy, of course, but that isn't the main form it decays into. Pure mage-energy is less useful, in this case. The immortal one shields against it, for one, and also it's not actually that good at penetrating thick stone. 

Vkandis can also work with light. Perfectly ordinary, non-magical light, that Leareth has no reason to specifically shield against. 

 

There is inevitably some overflow in low-energy, long-wavelength light, also known as "heat", along the current surface of the barrier. It's a minuscule fraction of the total energies in the barrier, for obvious reasons – it's not very damaging miles underground or miles in the air, where it either pointlessly half-melts some rock or dissipates quickly in the air - but it does, of course, set off a mile-wide ring of burning forest around the entire perimeter of Iftel's border. 

The vast majority of the energy exits mostly as extremely short-wavelength light, aimed west and originating from the upper component of the barrier's surface, at a shallow angle. It leaves a bar of brightly-glowing ionized air in its path, and then a substantial component of intersects with the surface of the conveniently very flat tundra a hundred or so miles away. (This is relevant because there isn't, actually, enough energy in the barrier to completely vaporize all of the stone in a straight line for over a hundred miles in a fraction of a second.) A smaller but still substantial fraction exits as slower-moving mage-energy, already in the process of decaying into more high-energy light. 

A lot of it "misses", of course, the beam having spread out a little while it traveled; the brunt of it lands on about a square mile of surface rock, and only some of that contains Leareth's base. The stone attenuates the remainder – a lot more than the magical shielding does, actually. Even gamma rays can't trivially penetrate ten feet of solid rock - though the beam, even at this distance, is intense enough to vaporize the first few feet and partially melt the next few. On the surface, things are about to get very exciting. 

The thorough earthquake shielding isn't damaged by high energy radiation, though, which passes more or less straight through it. The shielding is designed to handle the stone around it suddenly becoming unstable, and it holds, and the ceiling doesn't collapse, and the strength of the radiation blast makes it through several orders of magnitude weaker. It no longer makes the air glow. 

More than half of the energy hits in a fraction of a second, but the rest, that exited more slowly as mage-energy and then decayed, makes it through over the next two or three seconds. By five seconds in, it's pretty much over. The secondary radioactive isotopes from photonuclear reactions are trivial in comparison. 

It should, Vkandis thinks, still be a couple of orders of magnitude higher than the minimum high-energy light it takes to guarantee the squishy mortals will die. 

(There aren't that many interesting non-magical-radiation phenomena in Velgarth, not in places where mortals frequent, but Vkandis finds light very interesting, like the Star-Eyed finds Heartstone stability magic interesting, and has paid attention.) 

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Something that may never have been obvious to Vkandis, given how Foresight works, is that the mortals don't necessarily die instantly. A guaranteed-fatal exposure can take weeks to play out. Even a hundred times that still takes minutes. 

Nayoki senses the attack - it shows up to mage-sight, though not very well - and on pure instinct flings additional shielding over the beds of the helpless sleeping people she's been guarding, for all the good it will do when the much more powerful building shields apparently did nothing. Whatever it is barely seems to interact with mage-shielding, and she has no idea what it is - it's not immediately apparent that it even did anything, the walls are standing, nothing is on fire - but the peripheral alarms are keyed to her and triggering now, much too late to serve as any kind of warning - what - 

- she bounces the alarm to the backup facility with scry-coverage, which takes another couple of seconds through the artifact keyed to her - it should have been automatic but the set-spell might be down, with that much damage to the outer shielding - and she broadcasts a Mindspeech alarm at the whole facility rather than take the time to look for specific minds, and then she tries to stand, which is the point at which she realizes she must be injured, or something, because standing feels unaccountably wrongbad. She opens her eyes, which she must have instinctively squeezed shut when it hit, and realizes something is wrong with them too, she can't properly see across the room... 

Nayoki does manage to get one more comms-spell through, for a second or two, enough to convey INJURED SITUATION CRITICAL, and then she loses hold of it, and by then it's far too late to attempt a Gate out. 

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Leareth has faster reflexes. 

 

He jolts awake, thoroughly disoriented and under attack, and he doesn't try to orient further than the "under attack", because he has a firmly engrained instinct to Gate out to a secure location and then figure it out. In just under a second, he's gone, tumbling through a horizontal unscaffolded Gate onto the floor of a records cache that should be safely outside the attack radius. 

His shield-talisman is halfway drained but otherwise completely intact, which makes no sense. Maybe he managed to get out before whatever-it-was hit? Except that Leareth is fairly sure something did hit him. 

The Gate-backlash is bad. Leareth heads for the stored supplies to retrieve a scrying artifact, and realizes halfway there that something is wrong, and by the time he reaches the crates he's given up on walking. He goes for a comms-spell artifact, instead, because abruptly telling someone where he is is seeming like the highest priority. He tries for Nayoki and gets no answer and, with dull alarm, pieces together that she might well have been in the same place he was just in, hit by the same whatever-that-was - blearily, he dredges up the priority contact list and tries for the commander of the base to the northeast and gets nothing, which is even more alarming, that was fifteen miles away, and the gluey pain in his head is worse, the next name is no longer coming to mind and he's not, in fact, sure how many more times he can hold a comms-spell even with the artifact doing nearly all the work... 

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It hits Blai and Seldan at the same time, with about the same intensity, about two seconds before Nayoki yells "UNDER ATTACK" in both of their heads and without actually offering any kind of Mindspeech link to pick up an answer. Seldan is a Groveborn Companion and Blai is third circle, though, and it's not going to be quite as immediately incapacitating for either of them. 

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It does feel remarkably bad, like a Stinking Cloud that inflicts energy drain or something, but Blai's on his feet because his feelings don't matter - can Seldan follow him, can they get into a whole room of people and see if a channel does anything in such a room -

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Seldan is mobile. For the moment, at least. The...attack? It must have been, even if Seldan can't imagine where it could have come from or how it got through the shields...is trailing off, but he's certain that it did something nasty to both of them, even if Blai has no obviously visible injuries. 

This way. They're not far from the room where Nayoki was guarding the people trapped in the dream – there were some Healers there as well, it's the closest place they can reach that definitely has at least six or seven people in one place. Get there first, Seldan thinks, and then assess if they have time to find anyone else to drag into the line of effect. He doesn't think either of them is imminently dying, but he's a Groveborn Companion and Blai is third circle. It could be a lot worse for the others. 

Hallway. Whatever the attack itself was - and he's still trying to guess that and still failing, it wasn't magic or at least wasn't normal mage-energy - Seldan thinks it might already be over? But the injury isn't, somehow, something is still getting worse, and it feels like more than just the phenomenon where someone can take a serious wound in a fight and only notice when the adrenaline wears off. (Seldan is not trying to conceal any of his own symptoms from Blai, because this is important information.) He can still move, he's not going to collapse on the spot, but his legs feel weak and his balance is off and there's a burning pain that seems to be everywhere at once, even though nothing is on fire and neither of them is visibly burned. 

 

(Ten seconds in, the actual air temperature is rapidly rising, as the massive quantities of heat dumped into the stone above their heads start to reach them, and even heat shielding built to protect against unexpected magma from an underground volcanic eruption can't redirect all of it.) 

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Blai feels kind of like he would be sweating profusely even if it were objectively cold but there are heat shimmers in the air that mean it's probably actually hot.

He staggers into the room, trying not to lean on Seldan too hard because Seldan's not steady either and a horse will take a fall worse than a man - does he need to throw up - maybe? - he pauses to heave into a corner and then scrabbles for his holy symbol. He's dizzy, it's hard to count, are there the expected number of people in the room -

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Seldan was already reaching ahead with Mindspeech, but it can be hard to find unconscious people if they're also wearing the kind of absurd Thoughtsensing-blocking talismans that Leareth's people have on hand, and so he wasn't sure until they actually entered the room - 

 

- Leareth isn't here. The bed Leareth was previously in is empty and rumpled, with the top blanket missing. 

 

Vanyel and Stef are in bed, as expected. Neither is moving, though Vanyel in particular is in a position hinting that he was awake, if only briefly, and made a failed attempt to get up. There are three Healers, all collapsed on the floor. Nayoki is also on the floor, and not completely unconscious - she's trying to lift her head, maybe trying to drag herself to the door - but she isn't answering in Mindspeech and doesn't seem able to notice the new arrivals. 

 

Seldan is also having trouble thinking. Horses are incapable of throwing up, which one would really THINK ought to make them also incapable of experiencing nausea AND YET. He's reaching out with Mindspeech, in case Leareth is nearby, but honestly he's not feeling optimistic about his ability to carry an unconscious person over from another room. ...He's not finding anyone nearby, anyway, there are some unconscious minds in the living quarters but those are up a floor, the Work Rooms are down the hall but too shielded to check from here. Blai can turn some of his other prepared spells into healing spells, right, if they find Leareth later. Maybe Leareth isn't even here, maybe he woke up and Gated out in time and is fine?

Seldan thinks they shouldn't wait. The air is still getting hotter and he has no idea what just happened but it penetrated right through solid stone and he's worried about the structural integrity of the building, and everyone in this room who could Gate them out is incapacitated. 

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Yes, he can turn any nondomain spell into more healing. Hopefully some of these people once up again can do more about the temperature or the nausea or anything like that. He feels wire under his burning fingers and he reaches out in that swiftest of prayers, help.

It's a good pull, sometimes it does very little but this was a good one, almost all of his capacity, maybe because he's been inching towards another circle or maybe pure luck. Positive energy bursts out. He still feels like he could use two Lesser Restorations and a vat of ginger tea and a week in bed but he is not going to get everything he feels like he could use today as every other day in the past.

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Vanyel scrambles up and, on pure reflex, flings a shield over all of them. Which instantly makes it obvious that the dizziness and shakiness and nausea aren't the only things wrong. There's something very badly wrong with his reserves, or his...casting efficiency, or something...? A shield, even one he accidentally overpowered because he was startled, really shouldn't have taken most of his strength. 

:What happened?: he attempts to send to everyone in the room. This isn't the Foresight dream. What does he remember last– oh, he does have a blurry recollection of waking up here, trying to make sure Stef was there, then - pain, but not an attack. A Gate? But that can't possibly be all of what happened, he's not nearly as sensitive to Gates anymore even if it's catching him entirely off guard. 

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:Checking alarms: That was the last coherent thought Nayoki was holding onto, and she can pick it up instantly. She doesn't bother to stand; mage-work doesn't require it, and if she holds still then maybe she can manage not to throw up. 

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Stef yells out a string of Valdemaran swearwords and then starts dry-heaving over the side of the bed. 

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The Healers on duty for this shift are also clambering to their feet. No one is panicking. They work for Leareth; they've had training in reacting to emergency situations. 

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Seldan takes inventory. 

He feels quite a long way from dying, which is good. Carrying Blai anywhere in a hurry would not be fun but he should be physically capable of it, if necessary. A lot of the other unpleasantness is still there, but feeling icky isn't going to prevent him from moving or Mindspeaking to coordinate, and he can think around it. 

...It does seem relevant to figuring out what just happened, that Blai's channel only sort of fixed it. Seldan pulls up everything he's gleaned so far from Blai's thoughts and memories about how the healing works. Channels won't fix illness, like an infection, but infections don't pass right through ten feet of stone and then take full effect in seconds. ...It also wouldn't fix poison, but Seldan is equally baffled about how anyone could have poisoned them without setting off all of Leareth's alarms and warning them, and also that doesn't explain why it's so bloody hot

 

Answering their many questions can wait until they're safe. :Leareth is gone: he sends to everyone in the room, again. :Did anyone see where he went?: 

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SHIT

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:...I felt a Gate? I didn't - there wasn't time to figure out what -: 

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:Oh. Good.: 

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NOT good!!! Leareth is perfectly capable of pulling out a Gate even when badly injured - Nayoki has personal experience of this - and maybe he thought to aim the Gate at somewhere with Healers, but if he was entirely caught off guard - and he must have been, Nayoki had been watching with Mindhealing Sight, she would have noticed if he had woken up even half a second in advance of the...whatever it was... 

His reflex would be to get to a records cache, and the system Nayoki set up after the last time something like this happened, to find him without too much delay if he were too incapacitated to answer a comms spell, relies on equipment set up here

...And she can't afford even the time to think it through, because among the alarms screaming for her attention, one of them is the fact that the earthquake shielding - a stiff but slightly flexible force-net woven through the stone itself - is under enormous strain and running low on power. The heat-shielding is on its way to going down, and if this is how much heat is making it through intact shielding, she can't imagine what the room is going to be like in another couple of minutes. 

 

:Need to Gate out: she sends, shakily. 

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:Gate to Haven: Seldan sends back instantly. It's logical. They have no idea what happened, which means they don't know how big an area it hit. Haven should be far enough; the other bases won't be. Haven doesn't have a Heartstone anymore; that leaves the Shadowgod as the main god with influence, and They don't seem to be an enemy. And Valdemar has excellent Healers. Seldan is pretty sure they're still going to need that. 

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Nayoki doesn't argue, but her hands are trembling. 

:I will try. It - is a long way.: 

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Vanyel is taking down his shield, as carefully and properly as he can manage; it's clearly not doing anything useful. Halfway through, he also has to stop to throw up. 

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It reminds Blai of - the thing that happened when Savil tried to gate to k'Treva. That was hot, and strange, and a channel did not fix it completely, and it is also clearly possible on this world's magical base. Lesser Restorations helped a lot with that. He could - cast one on Nayoki, if she's the one doing the gate?

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Seldan had been considering whether to suggest Waymeet instead - he feels a lot better about Haven, but he's not sure how much this is just out-of-date associations from his life as a Herald, when Haven was safe and Waymeet was someplace he had never heard of, far outside the borders of the kingdom... 

...oh, that's a better solution. Yes, Blai should do that. Seldan is already bouncing the plan to Nayoki in Mindspeech, while a different thread of his attention goes hunting in Blai's memories for any hints of whether the Healers could do something. It seems like they could do a little but not fix it? Or possibly decided not to focus on it, because neither of their patients was dying and they had other patients to save their energy for? 

Seldan is moderately worried that whatever this was, it was a lot worse than the k'Treva version, and they are still dying, just - slowly, and with Blai's channel having bought them some ground. Well, no point trying to figure that out from here. The Healers in Haven can have a look. (The Healers here could also do that, in a pinch, but they still look pretty out of it.)

His thoughts - still entirely visible to Blai, if Blai has the attention to spare for it - bounce sideways to the still-unanswered question of what actually happened, and whether 'it was like k'Treva' is informative. K'Treva was destroyed by the Heartstone exploding, no? But that mostly adds confusion, because there isn't a Heartstone anywhere nearby. The first story Seldan can throw together is that maybe Leareth was building a test prototype of his god-project near here, without telling them, and that exploded? Since it seems like 'god-related energy' might be the thing? But that story seems absurdly implausible even setting aside the part where Leareth spent most of the last day trapped in a Foresight dream. It is too bad Leareth Gated out before they could ask him, though, since he knows more about magic than anyone else on this planet. 

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Leareth does not, in fact, have any more of an idea than they do what could possibly have happened. 

He is still consciously, albeit barely. His exposure was slightly less, maybe 60% of what everyone else took. (Not, actually, enough to matter, and Leareth doesn't know what's wrong but he can already put together that he's dying.) 

 

He tried for Vanyel with the comms-spell, a minute or so ago, on the grounds that he's no longer in the dream and Vanyel might also be awake. There was no answer, and the comms-spell gives less feedback than Mindspeech; he has no idea if Vanyel is even still alive, or whether there's anything left of the base he escaped from. 

He doesn't have very many more tries left. He doesn't think he has very many more minutes of consciousness left. If whatever just happened was bad enough, it's possible that no one is looking for him, or in any position to rescue him. 

Leareth musters all of his remaining strength, and tries for Jisa. At least he knows that she was over a hundred miles away. 

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??????

That wasn't even a word, but Jisa, despite being incredibly distracted, manages to notice it in time, and grab the end of the comms-spell structure to stabilize it. 

<Jisa here> she sends back, immediately raising her shields to cut off the scrying specialist from Leareth's staff who arrived twenty seconds ago with a fragmentary report. Under normal circumstances that would be incredibly rude, but Enara can apologize for her. 

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Oh. It worked. ...That means he needs to keep holding the link, and manage words or something, even though Leareth's head already feels like it might burst. 

 

<Help> Leareth manages. 

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It's a very low-quality comms-spell link and Jisa still can't tell directly who she's talking to

She can make an informed guess, though. It seems pretty likely that it's someone from Leareth's base, which she was just informed is now underneath an inexplicably long shallow crater of slagged rock, the final point of some sort of giant not-levinbolt that blasted in from the east and left the air itself glowing. (Hopefully the base still exists underneath. The scrying-specialist had still been in the middle of trying to focus a scry on where it ought to be.) 

Who would contact her, if they were trapped and injured and could only manage a 'help'. Vanyel, obviously, but it doesn't feel like Vanyel...

...It also doesn't feel like Leareth, honestly, but it's...what she could imagine Leareth sounding like over a comms spell if he were halfway dead. 

 

<I'm here> she sends. <Where are you? Are you injured?> 

 

No immediate response, at all, which was NOT what Jisa was hoping for, but - she thinks the spell is still active. Of course, that could happen if the other end was from an artifact, even if the person using it was no longer conscious. 

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Leareth is still there, but finding it increasingly difficult to take any kind of actions. 

 

 

 

 

<Records cache> he eventually squeezes out.

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Which basically confirms that it's Leareth. And...also doesn't actually help Jisa at all, unless it's coincidentally the same records cache she stayed in overnight, which would be pretty surprising, doesn't Leareth have hundreds of them. 

 

<Which one?> she sends back. <Where on a map? Or - are they numbered, or something - I can ask your people, I just need slightly more than that to go on -> 

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<Leareth?> 

Nothing. 

<Leareth, I'm here, please talk to me.> 

Nothing. 

 

 

Augghhhhh. Jisa already tried for Nayoki, obviously, right away after Brightstar started yelling to them in Mindspeech that something awful was happening, several seconds before her Mindspeech contact at the base informed her that there was an alarm of some kind. (She hadn't bothered trying for Leareth or Vanyel, at the time, given that she had every reason to think they were still in the Foresight dream and couldn't answer.) 

She rudely interrupts the conversation Enara is now having with the scrying-specialist. <Leareth's in trouble. He's in a records cache somewhere, but he didn't tell me which one, and he's not answering - please tell me you've got something to–: 

 

 

Which is the point at which one of the delayed shock-waves rippling through the bedrock reaches them, and the ground heaves under them and throws everyone to the floor. 

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In Haven: 

 

Iftel and Valdemar share quite a long stretch of border. The Web-alarms are enormously less sophisticated, now that the Heartstone is gone, and the threshold to set them off is higher, but a mile-wide strip of fire along almost a hundred miles of border is more than enough to do it. 

Next to that, Savil barely even notices the unannounced Gate out in the middle of Companions' Field. 

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They cross from scorching heat into freezing flurries. 

...Blai doesn't have Endure Elements. Seldan does not let himself indulge in any fretting about his Herald being cold. He tries to produce some extra body heat, but not too much; he needs to conserve his strength too. 

He does immediately Mindspeak every Companion he can reach. Can they please get some Healers out here right now. 

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Nayoki has too much dignity to collapse in a heap, but maybe she will just. Sit down. ...And then throw up, but at least she can console herself that she held it in longer than either Van or Stef. 

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For about two seconds the shock of cold feels nice against Blai's previously overheated skin and then it's just cold. Alas. He's got one Lesser Restoration left after having cast one on Nayoki but he's not sure where it will be best applied. Blai himself, in case he's about to collapse and not be able to dispense more Cure healing - one of the Healers here so they have more resources to help with, except there are local healers probably on the way - Seldan just because it's really very unpleasant for Seldan to be in bad shape but that's not a good reason -

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Seldan is fine! At least for the moment! All of this is astoundingly unpleasant, but the unpleasantness alone isn't going to kill him so it's not worth burning limited resources on fixing. (It's admittedly pretty tempting to convince Blai to use it on himself, but the same considerations apply and Seldan is not going to indulge that temptation.) 

Companions, or at least Groveborn, apparently come with some very cool magical senses, including what he thinks is a direct sense of his own life-force and his Herald's life-force, and he isn't dying or particularly close to collapsing. He's going to need a bit longer to gauge the rate at which the injury-or-poisoning-or-whatever-it-is is progressing, but he's pretty sure both of them are on track to stay functional for at least a candlemark. Plenty of time for local Healers to show up. They can get someone who's seen Blai's healing in use with Healing-Sight up and knows how it works, and use that information to plan how to use Blai's limited healing magic. 

 

...Also, Seldan thinks, they should consider saving the Lesser Restoration for Leareth. They don't know how bad his condition is, but if he was fine, he would surely have already contacted Nayoki on his comms spell for a situation report, so the fact that they haven't heard from him is ominous. Seldan can harass the Companions in Haven about quite a lot of things, but it's...taking him longer than it usually would...to track down any of Leareth's mages stationed in Haven and use their channels of communication to harass whoever is relevant to finding Leareth. 

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...right. Leareth's the ticket to Golarion, which is the only way they're going to get anyone up again who's down. Whoever's on trying to find him, Blai can aim a Minor Prophecy at them and see if that eliminates any dead ends or speeds up any important insights.

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Yes. Indeed. 

 

(In a back corner of his mind, Seldan is thinking ahead to the possibility that they won't find Leareth in time. It's a habit. When you're fighting a war, it has to be thinkable that any given battle might be lost, even ones that feel irrecoverable. But noticing this at all is just about all the attention Seldan is dedicating to that possibility.)

....It does seem like Leareth's highly competent and well-run organization has been somewhat thrown into disarray by whatever just happened. Seldan is collecting multiple fragmentary reports along six different channels and trying to pass them along, which ought to be easy but is giving him a headache. So far he's determined that most, maybe all, of the major installations in the north are damaged and being evacuated. Nayoki would be one of the people on finding Leareth but she...doesn't seem up for it...even after a channel and a Lesser Restoration, she was able to cast a fairly intensive Gate without passing out but the Lesser Restoration doesn't seem to have done anything about the nausea. Speaking for himself, Seldan is operating at maybe half his usual attentional capacity while the rest is eaten by feeling horrible, and Nayoki isn't a Groveborn. 

Save the Minor Prophecy, then, Nayoki is unlikely to be Gating off anywhere. Seldan will find out as fast as possible who will be - or better yet, who's in charge of sitting in a coordination room somewhere in front of a map of all the places Leareth might be and directing the actual rescuers, because a vision showing someone finding Leareth in a records cache might not even help if they all look the same inside and are located underground in anonymous forests. 

 

...Oh. Important update via the Companion grapevine: apparently Iftel is on fire??? As in, a significant fraction of the entire country???

And - the barrier is down. 

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That doesn't seem likely to be unrelated - they might just be collateral damage of Exploding Polity Syndrome's second victim -

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Jisa, Enara, Brightstar, and a dozen of Leareth's staff who were close enough to grab with force-nets tumble through Jisa's unscaffolded Gate into a records cache. 

 

Unsurprising, it's not the one that Leareth is in. It was selected solely for being the one Jisa has been in before, with countermeasures that she's already familiar with and that should hopefully still be down. ...They aren't, it turns out. Leareth is inconveniently very on top of routine maintenance like that. But there are plenty of people with her to absorb the levinbolts with their own shields and snip the paralysis-spells even as they try to land. It seems to be instinctive for them.

Jisa takes a moment to catch her breath. Not from the magic use, it really wasn’t that far to Gate - much closer than Haven - and she’s a White Winds Adept and still has most of the power from her most recent casting of the Adept ritual. It’s just that emergencies are stressful, and it turns out she’s not nearly as professional as all these people.

“Okay. Does anyone here know where Leareth keeps his maps of the other— good.” Someone whose name she doesn’t know is already diving for the storage crates. Jisa takes another deep breath. “What do we know.” 

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The reports are concise and professional and a lot more incomplete than anyone would like.

 

Nayoki’s base - where Leareth would have been - boosted over some confusing alarms to an adjacent facility (at which point this was obviously propagated to everyone via the usual comms-spell relays, over the next 60 seconds or so.) Nayoki herself got out a brief message confirming that their situation was critical. There was no response to the initial attempts to contact her. Nayoki did not herself make any reports about Leareth.

No one else has reported contact from Leareth. One other base - a closer one - bounced over an earthquake alarm and then a comms-spell message that they were evacuating. They had still been working on getting scry-coverage up of the interior of Nayoki's base, given that no one - including half a dozen backup contacts - was responding to communications, but the evacuation interrupted that. 

…Someone else reported fire close to the Iftel border? But it’s unconfirmed and the Iftel border is over a hundred miles from Leareth’s last known location.

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Jisa had been hoping to use the report-listening time to pull herself together, which would be a lot easier if the contents were less aaaaaaaa. 

(She's mostly ignoring the bit about the fire. Leareth probably didn't Gate closer to the Iftel border on purpose, and so it's not relevant right now.) 

It does give her long enough to form the thought that she really shouldn't be in charge here! That's stupid! It makes no sense! Leareth probably has fifty people on hand for the exact situation "rescue Leareth from a horrible godplot!" 

But he contacted her, which means that it's her problem now. Hopefully someone else is handling it and it's just that updating a random quarter of the staff from an outlying base - one deliberately picked for its lack of importance when they sent Brightstar there - isn't anyone's top priority. Jisa can hope that they're about to get a message telling her to stop getting in their way like an incompetent child, but - she hasn't yet. 

She takes a deep breath. 

"We should try to find out more, obviously. But, um, I think we should look for him. Can anyone here scry from a map and knowing what shields to look for?" Jisa can Gate with that much to go on, she's pretty sure, but even as a White Winds Adept she can't do fifty Gates in a row, and she isn't particularly good at weird scrying spells. It was never nearly as much fun to practice. 

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It's been more than ten minutes now, but not very much more.

Leareth is not, at this point, particularly conscious. He can't hold a comms-spell anymore even through an artifact; he's mostly lost track of the fact that the artifact exists or that verbal conversations do. 

He's not completely out, though, and he claws his way back toward semi-consciousness over and over and over, because he may not have any idea what's happening but he knows that he's in danger. And that someone needs to be able to find him. It's very important. 

It's not exactly a plan. Planning requires the capacity for complex thought, and Leareth can't even manage simple thoughts now. But he drags himself up from the darkness over and over, for a second or two at a time. 

 

...if they can't find him, he needs to make a noise...? so they hear him...? 

 

There's some kind of obstacle nearby. Leareth knocks it over. He isn't sure whether or not it makes a noise. 

No one comes. 

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...Seldan doesn't think it's unrelated, no. Though he's turning himself in mental circles a bit trying to make sense of "they might just be collateral damage of Exploding Polity Syndrome's second victim", possibly just because it's hard to think when he feels awful. (Even though feeling awful still doesn't mean he's dying or about to collapse or anything! He continues to be pretty sure neither of them is dying or about to collapse! It's just distracting and making him stupider and that's frustrating.) 

The first 'exploding polity' Blai is referring to was k'Treva Vale, he assumes, and...Leareth was the victim and everyone who lived in k'Treva was the collateral damage? Is he parsing that right? Seldan did walk into this whole situation in the middle and missed the beginning so maybe he's missing context. 

...He's pretty sure that whatever happened, Leareth was the intended victim (and the entire population of Iftel was the collateral damage, maybe?). There was a godplot to murder Leareth just days ago, right, and the murder part didn't work but the part to temporarily disable his immortality contingency did work, and - that's a window of opportunity, for Leareth's enemies...

Something about all of it still isn't making any sense. He assumes that's a Seldan problem, more than a fact about the situation, but it's still frustrating. 

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He was actually thinking of the polities themselves, k'Treva and Iftel, as the victims of the syndrome, but he is perhaps not at his most inspired right now in his thought constructions - ah, it is time to throw up again, he will aim away from Seldan. Leareth's enemies are... gods, yes? Does Iftel have a specific one?

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...Oh, right, that does make sense.

It seems like Leareth's relevant enemies are gods? As in, he's almost certainly made a lot of other enemies, given his past actions, but he's an archmage (incidentally, what a helpful concept from Blai's world and Blai's memories, when it comes to making sense of Leareth!) so it's difficult for other humans, or even other countries, to really be a threat. Leareth definitely sees his enemies as the gods– 

- oh, that was a digression, wasn't it. Iftel belongs to Vkandis, who was responsible for the miraculous barrier-shield that has protected the country since, as far as anyone knows, shortly after the Cataclysm. ...Which does, on consideration, seem like it has a lot in common with the Star-Eyed Goddess and Heartstones. From what Seldan can recall, those were also a miraculous god-magic thing that turned up shortly after the Cataclysm. 

 

The part that still doesn't make sense, even assuming that this was Vkandis' doing, is....why now? Why in full generality, actually? The Star-Eyed Goddess had a few hundred Vales with a few hundred Heartstones, and from what Seldan can recall they're not even hard to make, the Tayledras who work for Her do most of the work. Destroying k'Treva was...a lot less costly. Vkandis only has the one barrier, and if He went almost two thousand years without– ...fine, the situation did change once Leareth was no longer immortal, but that happened days ago? Why would Vkandis think it was worth...that...at all, and why today

(Seldan politely ignores the vomiting - it's not dangerous, just unpleasant - and tries not to dwell on the fact that he's jealous because he feels just as sick and can't do anything about it.)

 

- oh, finally, here come some people. Some of them in green robes, even, that means Healers. Seldan isn't sure how long they've been waiting here for anyone to turn up - it's probably closer to two minutes than thirty, it just felt long, there's no need to be snarky to the Healers about what kept them... 

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Tomorrow Blai is going to prepare Remove Sickness in all of SEVERAL of his slots.

Didn't Seldan figure out just a moment ago why today, today Leareth's immortality wasn't working.

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But that wasn't today! That was days ago! At least one day ago, because Blai prepared new spells, it might just feel like it has to be multiple days ago because so many things happened, like shutting down the Heartstone, which took most of a day. 

...No, Seldan does think it was days ago, multiple - didn't Blai need to wait and sleep after the whole earthquake gryphon attack so he could prepare Endure Elements to fix Leareth's heatstroke. And the whole business with the river and the Shadow-Lover in Haven happened after that, and then didn't they fix Sandra's blindness, which again called for preparing a specific spell, the morning after that? And this morning Blai had to ask for the Dream Feast spell, because in the interim the whole Heartstone thing happened and Vanyel and Leareth ended up stuck in the Foresight dream? That's three days! 

(Seldan is deeply frustrated that it's this hard to remember which things happened at what times. Companions aren't supposed to have this problem!) 

...Possibly the whole line of thought is stupid because gods don't work on the same timescale, and a couple of days to react might as well be instantaneous, and so this isn't surprising at all and it's only bothering Seldan because a human military commander really ought to be capable of more decisiveness? At least, you know, assuming they were deciding whether to EXPLODE THEIR ENTIRE KINGDOM to murder a single specific enemy, which is insane, but - a human commander ought to do it right away, if they were doing it at all, because Leareth could have fixed his immortality in a few days, even if in practice he didn't? But that's also probably irrelevant to gods with Foresight, and Seldan is overthinking it, and the part where he still feels confused and mad about it is mostly that he's impaired. 

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Okay, yes, Vkandis could have struck Iftel with exploding polity syndrome a bit earlier but it still explains why not last week or last year. Maybe Vkandis could see that the immortality was not fixed and not being worked on? Was it not being worked on? It's hard to think around the urgent sensation that he needs to stop containing whatever the fuck he contains that's making him so sick.

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Shavri reaches them at a run, ahead of the cluster of other Healers and Guards and also Tantras inserting himself for some reason. No mages, because there just aren't that many in Haven - all the "allied" mages they couldn't trust are now elsewhere - and Leareth did have some mages stationed here but they are apparently extremely busy and trusting the Heralds to handle this.

(She would have been here sooner, but it was an unexpected Gate and apparently someone thought they needed to check for traps even with Seldan right there making himself incredibly obnoxious, who could possibly thought it was a good idea to make him a Groveborn who could Mindspeak a dozen people at once.) 

She's gotten the report. Blai, Seldan, Van and Stef, and four of Leareth's staff, but not Leareth himself, all suffering from injuries-or-maybe-poisoning, which Blai's injury-healing magic helped at all with but didn't fully fix, so it might be like k'Treva but worse. 

 

...It's definitely worse. There's no way that Shavri is making them walk anywhere. Why didn't anyone tell her that none of them were dressed for the weather. 

:Get us someone who can Gate to the House of Healing: she snaps at Tran. In the meantime, it's not like any of them can do a weather-barrier, but at least she can bark at all the Healers accompanying her to lend their cloaks. 

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Shavri wasn't explicitly shielding her Mindspeech from nearby Thoughtsensers, though she wasn't broadcasting it. 

:I can Gate: Nayoki says. :If you have authorization to take us somewhere.: She would also really, really like to be out of the snow. 

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...She's currently slumped on the ground in front of a puddle of vomit, so Shavri is dubious of this claim. 

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This is a deeply frustrating argument to need to have, but Nayoki struggles to her feet to prove that she's capable of standing. :Blai did one of the healing spells: she explains. :I think it did not fix everything wrong but I can use magic.:

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...Fine, that would definitely be faster and Shavri is cold too. And it makes no sense for this to be a trap, so she doesn't care that Tran is frowning at her, even he knows that it's only habit. She pushes over an image of the hallway in the House of Healing. 

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Gate. 

 

...That was perhaps the last of Nayoki's strength and collapsing onto the floor once she's through is going to be less voluntary this time, but she can at least keep it together until she, and everyone else, are through. 

It's warm on the other side. 

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Blai drags himself through. Lists his spells available to Shavri - :I have one channel left, another Lesser Restoration beyond the one Nayoki got, Stabilize but it might not work on this, a prophecy I can use for anyone doing something important that needs the insight - and a few probably irrelevant things that can be converted into healing -:

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They have an Air Bubble and the two unnecessary Dream Feasts and a Summon Monster and a Remove Curse. Which, indeed, don't seem relevant, unless it's possible that the thing wrong with them is at all like a curse for the purposes of Blai's magic? Which it probably isn't, and that's the strongest spell and can presumably be converted into the strongest healing? 

Seldan doesn't think he's missing some a brilliant plan whereby an Air Bubble solves all of their problems, but he really wishes more of his capacity for brilliant plans was working. 

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Everyone is conscious and breathing okay and nobody is bleeding to death right now, so Shavri's first priority is getting them comfortable in a room. ...A single room, it's going to be crowded especially with Seldan there, but they'll want everyone in range of Blai's channel. At least for the moment, there are enough Healers for a one-to-one ratio. Get Healing-link up to stabilize everyone, and then Shavri can use her Sight - she's better at it than just about anyone else in Valdemar - to figure out what the underlying injury is. 

...Possibly the fact that everyone was conscious and capable of getting themselves through a Gate was misleading and Shavri was too optimistic. This...does not look good. In fact, she's pretty sure that these are fatal injuries, and it's not a reassuring thought that this is how they're looking after Blai used a channel. 

Her mindvoice is matter-of-fact, though. :I see a few different things wrong. All of you have signs of inflammation in your brains, and if the tissues start to swell then that's very dangerous. Stef and Van have early signs of swelling already. Healing can delay the problem getting worse, and I think Blai's injury-healing magic will - reset it, at least - but there's something causing it that I can't see. ...You all have the kind of damage Randi did, the one that a Lesser Restoration aimed at Endurance helped with - Blai and Seldan aren’t as badly off, you both had more to work with, and Nayoki's also better off than I would expect compared to the others, which makes sense, if she had the Lesser Restoration.:

Shavri hesitates.

:You're also...leaking life-force, like you would if you were bleeding, but - with no structural damage we can fix. It’s more like there are - cracks, in all the loops your body’s energy should be passing through, too small to see with Healing Sight. And - there's something wrong with the natural mechanisms that Healing works with. There should be - you can imagine it like levers, that a Healer can touch - and none of that is working like it should. We can prop things up by feeding you Healing-energy constantly - we're going to have to - but I don't think it can keep up, the lever we use to get the Healing-energy into you is damaged. We can slow it down, that's all.:

Not quite saying, in so many words, that she thinks all of them are dying. 

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:If Leareth can get to Golarion. That's what matters. Say when. For the second channel.

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Shavri considers. 

:...I think we'll want to wait as long as we possibly can, in case - it's probably not just Leareth who was injured and isn't here yet, they might manage to evacuate more injured. Stef's the worst off but he should have a couple of hours. You're actually still brighter on life-force than a perfectly healthy normal person, even if it's half what I expect for you, and you've got more capacity left to absorb Healing-energy, I think you can last until evening before you're in real danger.: 

That's assuming he can manage to stay hydrated. Shavri is going to spend some time poking around to see if she can find any angle to help with the nausea. (She's pretty sure she can disrupt the process that leads to actually vomiting, if she catches it in time, but patients do not tend to thank her when she does that without doing anything to make them feel less sick.) In the meantime, everyone should have lots of ginger tea, and warm blankets, and they have three Healers on today who can painblock, for whoever needs it the most or maybe just taking turns. (Stef's Wild Gift could get everyone in the room at once, but Stef absolutely should not be using his Gifts right now. Shavri would be yelling at Seldan to stop using Mindspeech, too, if she thought there was any possible way he would listen.) 

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You can't normally Create Water inside of people - it'd have, uh, combat applications, if you could do that - but maybe it's possible with a willing creature or one whose throat is sufficiently open or something - oh ginger tea yes please thank you he will drink ginger tea -

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Seldan is not going to stop Mindspeaking yet! He has important conversations to have! ...He'll consider stopping it after Leareth is safe, it probably is costing him some energy, but he's already not going to be the limiting factor on when Blai needs to use the second channel. 

 

...He has confirmation that there are people out there looking for Leareth. Apparently Jisa is one of them, because apparently Leareth managed to comms-spell her? Which has to be a good sign, it was a couple of minutes after the alarm so they know he wasn't immediately unconscious, though it sounds like he didn't manage to tell her where he was - apart from "records cache" - before he stopped answering. But they're looking, and so are at least two other groups. Seldan really hopes they're managing to coordinate with each other on their search-plan. He's passed a message to the person on Leareth's staff who's in Haven and available to harass, that Blai is available to cast a Minor Prophecy on whoever would be most likely to be doing something usefully-informative when Leareth would be found, but Seldan is not in their chain of command and it's not an order and he has no idea if anyone will actually take them up. They do think Leareth is currently still alive, there's - he didn't bother to get the details, but there's some kind of alarm? Possibly they have someone watching his immortality Void-hideout (not functional but still there) to check that it's still attached to a person in the material plane? 

Seldan has already given all of the unsolicited advice he can think of and it seems like the thing to do now is wait. 

 

 

...Seldan hates waiting. Is there anything else they can do in parallel. He could pop to the blue place and try to ask the Shadow-Lover god to please put Leareth back if he tries to die? ...He could ask for a vision of where Leareth is but he really doubts that will work. 

It sounds like Blai's goddess probably can't and won't help them, given the being in another world and also broke... 

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Yeah no She's not likely to be able to do anything here. They could try other gods. There's - if it's hard now to sort through Blai's memories he'll try to bring them to the fore - there's Abadar, He'd probably be so excited about contact between planets being possible repeatably enough for trade, about the diamond arbitrage - there's Shelyn and Sarenrae - Erastil - Desna - Cayden Cailean, who Blai doesn't really see the point of but did recommend to the Shadow-Lover as a previously mortal god to talk to -

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Ugh, it is getting harder to do the sorting through Blai's memories, or at least Seldan doesn't think he can manage to do it while also having Mindspeech conversations. 

 

...It's potentially a very high priority, though, worth focusing on for a couple of minutes so he can bounce that list over to Rolan and some of the Heralds along with some brief commentary on the gods' traits. They should try to have people who're particularly aligned with a given god pray to Them, right, that helps? 

Oh, and he was assuming they should delegate this to people who aren't at this moment slowly dying, but - there's an advantage to being a cleric that isn't just the healing spells, right? Blai is also just stronger? If that's also true of new clerics then that is a pretty strong argument to have everyone here try to pray to a god who might be able to cleric them. Maybe timing it for after whenever Blai ends up using the channel, when they're feeling best. 

 

- well. That was a baffling update from Leareth's coordination person in Haven. Seldan has no idea what to make of it, it's bizarre timing given the...everything...but apparently Brightstar - shortly before Iftel exploded - had a vision. In which the Star-Eyed Goddess told him She might have made a mistake? That's literally all that was passed on, and it almost certainly doesn't make sense to interrupt Jisa's Leareth-rescue activities to get more, which is frustrating because the news didn't include anything on how Brightstar reacted and that feels like an essential piece of the puzzle, when it comes to figuring out what the Star-Eyed could possibly have been steering for? 

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A first circle cleric might not be particularly stronger. Maybe they are. He's not sure.

Did the Star-Eyed... make a mistake... that exploded Iftel...? Or is She just sorry about k'Treva.

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The information they have doesn't clarify! ...Seldan has no idea how the Star-Eyed Goddess could possibly explode Iftel, though, and - the apology (if it can be called that) vision was before the explosion. At least a couple of minutes before. She would need to have realized before it happened that it was a mistake, and still not been able to stop it. It makes more sense for it to be about k'Treva. 

In isolation this would seem like...good news, probably, weird and maybe some kind of plot but if the Star-Eyed really had concluded that k'Treva was a mistake, and wanted them to know that, that's probably a good thing...but in the actual case, Seldan is way too confused to feel anything positive about it.

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Maybe... someone should be... folding that in to a prayer to Sarenrae?... he has maybe had enough ginger tea now that he could sleep. Is there any good reason he should not sleep.

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Everyone who can possibly manage it should absolutely be trying to get some sleep at this point! Shavri can wake him when they need his healing. 

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Jisa is an idiot. 

They have a map and scrying and contact with a couple of other teams also looking, and this is almost certainly going to work eventually, but at the rate they're ruling out bases, it could take them half an hour if they get unlucky. Leareth might not have half an hour. 

And the thing is. She knew that Brightstar had a way to track Leareth's location! And it's still taken her more than ten minutes to think of it!

Well, in her defense, asking Brightstar of all people for help saving Leareth's life is...a dubious proposition. But - it might be worth the risk. Asking him how he feels about the idea should be safe, his mage-gift is blocked, he can't do anything even if he concludes that she's given him the brilliant idea of finding Leareth to finish him off. She would have to unblock his Gifts to actually do it, of course, but - that's a decision she can make once she knows whether "the Star-Eyed might have made a mistake" is enough to make him convincable to help her. Jisa can be very convincing. 

:Brightstar: she sends. :I have a very important question for you.: 

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Brightstar gives her a dull, blank look. 

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She's reading his mind, obviously. 

:...Your Goddess didn't do this: she sends, gently. :It must have been Vkandis, right, and - She tried to warn us. Not - in time - but She tried. ...Brightstar, I don't think She was aiming for this. I - think maybe you need to try to talk to Her again, figure out what part She thinks was a mistake, but - if it was killing Leareth, if She thinks that wasn't necessary after all now that we have Blai's world, then...: 

Brightstar is taking it...numbly, Jisa thinks, too exhausted for emotions.

Jisa trails off, and chooses her next words very carefully. 

:Brightstar. You can find Leareth, right? If he's still alive? If you have your mage-gift back?: 

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Brightstar stares at her. At least his reaction isn't an immediately 'why in the world would I do that?', or the even worse 'oh, what a brilliant idea, pretend I'm willing to help and then kill him.' 

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Jisa makes herself meet his eyes, even though for some stupid reason she abruptly feels like crying. 

:We can still fix it, Brightstar. If we get to Golarion. We can bring back Starwind and Moondance and - everyone, if we can get enough diamonds and pay enough clerics. It's not too late. The Star-Eyed can't undo k'Treva, but - the deaths don't have to be permanent. But we need Leareth, to figure out a Gate for us.: 

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The breath goes out of him in a little sigh.

 

:I do not have any diamonds: he sends, almost plaintive. 

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If that's the sticking point - 

 

:Leareth would pay for it!: Jisa snaps at him. :He can afford it and he would absolutely consider it his responsibility! Just because it was part of a plot related to him! Also probably if it wasn't, because he made a vow to save everyone, but - he's going to want this in particular fixed sooner than that. I'm really sure of that.: 

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It's...tempting. To believe her. Brightstar wants that to be how it is. 

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Probably the best thing Jisa can possibly do here is just giving Brightstar space to grapple with it, but - how long does he need - they don't have time

 

:Brightstar, the Goddess sent you a vision for a reason: she sends, very softly. :It's - not free for gods to do that. I think She wanted you to - be able to think about the right thing to do. She probably can't see very well, Foresight is all messed up, but - you can.: 

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:I will help you.: 

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....Oh. Good. What a relief. Jisa had just gotten to the point of starting to think about whether and how she could use compulsions and/or Mindhealing to make him. 

 

:Thank you: she sends, earnestly. :I think it's the right– I think it's the only thing to do, here. ...I'm going to unblock your mage-gift now.

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Brightstar does not, in fact, make even the slightest attempt to use this opportunity to harm Leareth. Jisa is on a hair-trigger and ready to set-command him at the first glimpse of any suspicious or hostile thought, but Brightstar mostly isn't having thoughts at all, just that exhausted blankness.

He gives them a location - approximate, to within a mile, but enough to narrow down the records cache on the map, at least once they figure out how to interpret the mental impression, and from there it's thirty seconds to have a Gate up. 

Leareth can't be dead. Because it worked. They wouldn't have been able to find him this way if he was dead. There are other explanations for how upset Brightstar looks, like it sinking in that Vkandis set most of His country on fire to do this– oh, and Leareth shows up to Mindhealing Sight, so he can't be dead. Even if what she sees is that his garden is on fire. Dead bodies don't show up to Mindhealing Sight as on fire, they just don't show up. He must look pretty upsetting to Healing-Sight too, that's enough to explain Brightstar's horrified expression. 

It seems risky to move him, but what's the alternative, tracking down Blai and hauling him here? She's not even sure where Blai is; she didn't get a direct report on him at all, really, all she knows is that Seldan is making an ass of himself in Haven, so Blai's got to be in the city. Right?

They'll just have to be really, really careful not to jostle him, and be quick. 

 

Twenty-seven minutes after the attack hit, a Gate goes up in the hallway of the House of Healing in Haven. Hopefully Blai isn't far. At the very least it's where all the Healers are. 

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Less than ten minutes after Blai asked if he could sleep, Shavri interrupts him and Seldan with a mental yell. :Hallway! Now! Hurry!:

They're not moving Leareth from right here. She needs all of her bloody attention to find his life-force so she can aim her Healing at all, at this point she'll settle for 'throwing Healing-energy in his general direction' because there's no way she's getting a proper link up, he's - well, going through a Gate while this badly injured probably wasn't good for him at all - 

- his heart isn't beating. That would explain the difficulty she's having, Shavri thinks, very calmly and distantly. Jisa is insisting he's still showing up to Mindhealing Sight but that's not helpful for Shavri - 

- Blai might need help to get out of bed, Shavri really hopes someone else is on that because she's busy - 

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He is doing his very best to do it himself! Up! Left foot right foot trying not to throw up all his ginger tea! Hallway??

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Seldan can help, though he's none too steady himself. (A couple of the Healers stationed in the room will also help.) 

He reaches ahead with Thoughtsensing. :Jisa's out there. They found Leareth. ...Brightstar's with them, I have no idea - what were they thinking -: 

And then they're at the door. 

That sure does look like Leareth on the floor, with Shavri beside him. They're within thirty feet, with no intervening obstacles, but it's kind of an egregious waste of a channel if it ends up not getting everyone in the room they just left because there are walls in the way - on the other hand, everyone else they can get back as long as Leareth survives - though even at a slow walk it's not that many seconds to get to touch range - 

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Brightstar stands very still, with his back against the wall, looking...haunted. 

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Blai burns a Dream Feast on a Cure. He has begun to get the picture that even archmages around here are not as tough as, say, second-circle squishy wizards, under all their abjurations.

Then he throws up, not on Leareth. :I don't think that worked.:

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:I wasn't sure if it would or not. Hoped it might.: Shavri's mindvoice is very neutral. :I can't get anywhere with Healing. I'll - keep trying - but you shouldn't. Can't afford to waste your spells.: 

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No. No, that can't be right. That's not fair

:I can still see him: Jisa insists. :Maybe if I get in rapport with you, you can -: 

 

Well. She can still see something. It's no longer particularly recognizable as Leareth's mind. 

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It might not have been too late until they took him through a Gate. Brightstar did try, actually, for a Healing-link, and he couldn't then either, but he's not very good at healing humans. 

 

He still offers Jisa and Shavri a wordless mental hand, opening his shields for rapport if they want it. Maybe Earthsense is somehow useful? It does still feel like there’s something there, maybe, the way he can feel something in plants and soil. Just - not something he knows how to point Healing-energy at.

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Is there anything Seldan can do— oh. He can go to the blue place right now and yell at Shadowgod to put Leareth back. It wouldn’t have to be for long! Just back enough for Blai’s magic to be able to target him, for the few seconds Blai needs to cast, surely there’s a limit to how expensive that can be. 

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Blai is going to... sit here in case that works... and continue throwing up all of his ginger tea.

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Blue place. It does have the delightful advantage of making Seldan temporarily unaware of his body, which can only be a blessing right now. 

 

...The blue place, right now, is somehow managing to be disorienting and nauseating all by itself. Maybe Seldan is just too out of it right now to cope with Groveborn Foresight, but also he...thinks...it didn't look quite this messy before...? Maybe the gods have some genuine reason for concern. Not that this justifies ANY OF THE RECENT EVENTS, obviously.

 

HELLO SHADOWGOD. SELDAN WOULD LIKE TO SUBMIT A COMPLAINT FOR IMMEDIATE ACTION. They've just gone to TRULY HEROIC LENGTHS to grab Leareth and now he's ambiguously half-dead and SELDAN IS PRETTY SURE HE KNOWS WHO TO BLAME FOR THAT. Seldan is pretty sure that the Shadowgod isn't served by Leareth being dead and, so far as he can tell, the Shadowgod has provided zero help with the most recent disaster. Seldan is not asking for miracles, here, he's asking for something really quite centrally in the Shadow-Lover's remit, They put Vanyel back half a dozen times. Seldan isn't asking Them to fix what's wrong with Leareth, even, they've got that handled! They just need him to be very slightly less ambiguously dead for about six seconds! This would be a clever and efficient way to stop Vkandis from having achieved anything He wanted with His stupid and spectacularly wasteful "blow up a country" plan! Isn't the Shadowgod into that kind of thing? 

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Nothing answers. 

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...Well, they do know that this is a communication method where the Shadowgod can hear him but not answer nearly as easily. The absence of an answer isn't necessarily a no. 

 

Seldan is going to keep yelling at (that seems like a more accurate description than "praying to") the Shadowgod, just to make really absolutely sure that the message is loud and clear. 

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...Wow. Okay. This is the weirdest fucking way of using Healing-Sight that Shavri has ever experienced. She has her Sight focused on something, but she can't pull back her mental viewpoint or shift the scale. She can see this structure, and if she effortfully refocuses she can end up on that structure instead, and her Sight seems to be under the impression that none of the structures in Leareth's body are in any way related to each other. 

Blasting his shoulder joint with Healing-energy is not going to do anything useful, even if she could technically aim at it right now. If this is going to work at all, she needs to get herself focused on his heart and see if she can smack it around hard enough to get it beating, it doesn't even need to be an effective heartbeat that successfully moves blood, she just needs the energy-loop to exist at all so she can hook her Gift into it... 

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Brightstar might be getting the hang of this? He thinks she should move her Sight this way. 

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...Okay. That sure is a heart that is not doing anything. Seen up close, there's still a little bit of life-force there - it's not completely dark, and Shavri can make out structure, which she's pretty sure doesn't work on dead flesh. (It's historically been inconvenient for research, actually, that Healers can't train Sight on dead bodies, and can't cut up their living patients to look at how things are put together, so it takes a lot of drawings and practice to correlate them.) 

Shavri throws a focused dart of Healing-energy, and - 

 

- it lands, and it drains away and it's gone. Some of these cells are technically in some sense still alive, but they're - in living patients there's something like a cup, something Healing-energy can land in and propagate on from. The others are cracked cups, with both Healing-energy and their own natural life-force slowly but constantly leaking away.

This is a cup with no bottom. She can throw Healing-energy at it, sure, and at a hyper-local level there's something still there that can use it as fuel, but - there's nothing that can hold it even for a moment, let alone distribute it, and so most is pointlessly wasted. Shavri can't get a Healing-link to every cell in Leareth's body independently. 

If she had something to replace the critical vital functions, routing around the damaged pathways entirely, so she could slow down and figure out what can still be repaired– ...but Healing-Gift doesn't work like that. 

She tries again anyway, but she doesn't think it's going to work. She's pretty sure that all she's figured out, here, is an extremely creepy way to make Healing-Sight work on a recently-dead corpse.

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:...And there it goes.: Jisa’s mindvoice is barely a whisper.

Some part of the “ground” underlying the garden - most of what’s left, by now, all the plants are burned away to ash - seems to lose its structural integrity, and the whole thing buckles and collapses and folds in on itself, and then abruptly there’s nothing there for her Sight to interact with. The body on the floor might as well be a piece of furniture. 

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Shavri would really like to have the luxury to be upset about it, but she doesn’t, and so mostly she’s frustrated about the waste of a healing spell.

:We should get you back to bed, I guess: she sends to Blai. 

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"Mmhm," he says, wiping his mouth off a little with the back of his hand and lurching to his feet again. :Ginger tea?: Since his is. Gone.

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:Mm. And we shouldn’t need to haul you out of bed again. I’m sure that makes it worse.:

Shavri isn't apologizing, exactly. It was a pretty good reason. It didn't work but it was worth trying and it would have been even less likely to work if they'd prioritized Blai staying in bed and hauled Leareth over into the room instead. And now she's - not going to think about it, apparently, because she still has seven - no, eight, counting Seldan - patients to get through until tomorrow morning and that's going to need all of her attention. 

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Even in the blue place and not directly able to reach his Herald, Seldan...knows, somehow. Maybe he saw it in Foresight directly. 

 

 

SHADOWGOD WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT

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He wasn't expecting an answer, but he gets one. Sort of. 

 

It feels...carefully constructed. Not quite in words, but possible to make sense of even in his impaired state. 

Seldan should come back later. Later will be better. It will be easier to explain. 

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!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

 

 

...No. No? No! No, the Shadowgod does NOT get to just tell Seldan to come back later! What the fuck! Seldan DEMANDS AN EXPLANATION! 

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It seems to take a while to construct an answer to that. 

 

...They asked for something that would not have been the best path. The Shadowgod would have intervened if that was the best path, but it wasn't. 

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THAT IS THE WORST MOST USELESS EXPLANATION SELDAN HAS EVER HEARD IN HIS ENTIRE LIFE

 

 

 

...It's apparently all he's getting, for now, and it's...probably not a good idea to spend any longer hanging out in the blue place trying to yell at a god. 

Seldan extracts himself, fuming, and bounces the cleaned-up and less overwhelming-Foresight-tangle version of all that to Blai, and then - having a body is really very bad right now and Seldan doesn't think he's closer to dying, he's pretty sure that pushing that harder than he really should have is mostly making the unpleasantness worse, but having a body is really quite bad right now and Seldan...might need some help...to get back to the room. And to avoid Mindspeaking anyone except Blai. 

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Blai is not all that strong in general and in particular right now but he can try to be, like, proprioceptively helpful like the banister on a staircase?

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...Seldan can look pathetic at some of the Healers until they get it together to send some of the stronger Healers to help him. He can walk - he's very unhappy about it but he's not actually clear how or whether they could move him if he wasn't helping - and he can get back to the room, and then...

 

 

...well. That just happened. And...is going to have a lot of consequences, and Seldan doubts the consequences can wait until they feel less miserable, because there's no reason to think that either the Healers or Blai's magic will fix the misery. But maybe it can wait until they've slept a little bit. 

Seldan isn't tracking whether all of that was visible from the room. If not, he calls dibs on not being the one who has to tell Nayoki. Or Vanyel, come to think of it. What if Vanyel cries. Seldan has never felt especially equipped to deal with crying people. 

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Shavri gets Blai more ginger tea. She doesn't say anything more to him, and her eyes are unfocused in the way that means she's fully absorbed in Healing-Sight. 

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Should Blai tell Vanyel and Nayoki? He doesn't really like crying people but that doesn't matter.

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...Oh, no, Seldan wasn't trying to hint that at all. Blai doesn't speak Valdemaran, that's a perfectly good excuse by itself when the Healers want them to avoid using Gifts like Mindspeech. You know who should do it: Jisa! Where is Jisa anyway– you know what, nevermind. Someone else's problem. Seldan is going to SLEEP. 

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Jisa is sitting stupidly on the floor against the hallway wall, hugging her knees and not-looking at Leareth's body.

 

Every few seconds, it occurs to her that she's sitting here being useless, and then she runs headlong into the fact that she's...out of tasks on her list? Which is an incredibly stupid way to feel when there's self-evidently an ongoing emergency, and yet. 

She was trying to find Leareth. She found Leareth. Before anyone else, which she might be proud of if it had fucking helped. She wanted to make sure Blai and Seldan and Van and Stef and Nayoki were okay or at least in a safe place. That's confirmed. She's not actually in the chain of command for Leareth's organization and has no idea how she could help with the evacuation, which is...probably over now, or as over as it's going to get, everyone who had a chance of getting out safely already has. They definitely know Blai is here and has one more channel, so hopefully they're going to figure out who would benefit most from being crammed into the room for that. Jisa also doesn't know how she could help with that even if she wanted to. 

 

...It takes her a while to notice that Brightstar, beside her, isn't just doing the same thousand-yard stare. He's - elsewhere. In trance, doing something, and he doesn't react to her gentle Mindspeech prod. 

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Maybe thirty seconds after that, Brightstar's eyes fly open and he draws in a shaky breath. 

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Oh. Good. Jisa had just been in the middle of trying to figure out whether she ought to tell someone about his...state...and if so who and what to say. 

 

:Hey. Are you - all right - what is it -?: 

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Brightstar gives her a bleak, exhausted look. :I went to the Void. To try to catch Leareth's soul. It did not work.: 

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:You did what - 

- you can do that - ?: 

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Brightstar shrugs. :It seems I cannot do that. I think maybe only gods can.: 

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Jisa drags a hand over her face. :No, I mean, what were you even going to do with him if you - caught - him?: 

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Brightstar shrugs again, helplessly. (He at least isn't blocking Jisa out; he's letting her see his thoughts, which are still mostly a sea of numb empty blankness, but - it's clear that he was trying, even without much of a plan, and there's no sign that his goal if he had managed to grab Leareth's soul was to attempt to destroy it before anyone realized what he was doing.)

 

:I am not sure. I - I thought maybe if I could hold onto him, we could patch the soul-sanctuary? Enough for it to work once?: 

Brightstar blinks, slow and tired. :...I saw him: he adds after a moment, his mindvoice just as flat as before. :I think. It was just - everything was so fast. ...I think the spell means his soul is attached very tightly to a body, and then when he dies it should - exit - with a great deal of force, to reach the soul-sanctuary with very little time...exposed. It was very interesting to watch, actually. But - it failed, obviously, like I knew it would, and - I was not fast enough -: 

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Jisa just stares at him for a moment.

She manages not to snark out loud that he’s remarkably, even suspiciously, invested in this all of a sudden. It…makes sense, when she just persuaded him that Leareth was the only way he would ever see his parents again. Also, it doesn’t actually need that much additional explanation that Brightstar would have a very clever idea involving weird planar magic and immediately be compelled to test it, with no thought at all toward a plan for if it worked. 

…It didn’t work, so it’s all hypothetical anyway, and Jisa is abruptly weighted down with exhaustion again.

:Thank you: she says, earnestly. :For trying. It’ll mean a lot to Nayoki. …We should go talk to her. And Van. I don’t know if they…saw…:

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No one could actually stop Vanyel from getting Farsight up as soon as he realized something was happening (which didn't take long at all given that the something started with a Gate right outside in the hall), or from bouncing it to Nayoki.

He didn’t interrupt. It was pretty goddamned obvious that it would be a bad time to interrupt, and - it was all over pretty fast. Less than two minutes, from the Gate to the point when they gave up, and - really he already knew, from the moment Blai's spell did nothing. There was never, at any point, anything it made sense for him to do. 

(He did briefly consider if it would be worth stopping his own heart to die just a little bit and go issue some demands to the Shadow-Lover, but the mental picture of Shavri's reaction quelled that plan instantly. Vanyel literally couldn't think of a worse situation to be making extra work and stress for the Healers.) 

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Nayoki didn't try to micromanage. From what she could tell, they were doing all the right things, and it's just that, sometimes, doing all the right things isn't enough. Even though that's not allowed to be true for Leareth, specifically. It's what happened. 

She's so tired. 

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On further consideration Jisa leaves Brightstar outside in the hall, with the mages from the base who followed them here. As far as Nayoki remembers - gods, as far as Vanyel remembers - he was their enemy and their prisoner, and hauling him into the room can't possibly be reassuring even if she's doing it to give him credit for being remarkably heroic. 

In hindsight she half can't believe she tried that, that was an insane plan, what in the world even made her think of it as an option. ...And at the same time she's trying not to think about the fact that if she'd thought of it ten minutes earlier, they might have been in time. 

 

...There's not, actually, all that much to say, given that there's no point now getting into a whole debate about her reasoning when she asked Brightstar for help. Brightstar had a vision from the Star-Eyed and was suddenly willing to talk to her. Then the attack happened, Nayoki and Van may know more about that than she does. Leareth contacted her over the comms spell, so she knew he was in trouble. They didn't have any more time to plan before the earthquake forced an evacuation into a random records cache. ...They never did get scrying up on the inside of the base that Leareth had been in, actually, not that it makes any difference now. They found a map and started a search. Jisa realized it was going to take too long and - at that point remembered that Brightstar knew how to track Leareth's location. She...convinced him to try. It worked, which she took as confirmation that Leareth wasn't dead, but - well - they don't know if he was already too far gone for Golarion healing, given that APPARENTLY it's possible for someone to be and STILL SHOW UP TO MINDHEALING SIGHT. Brightstar thought there was something unusual going on with how his soul was attached, which makes sense if it's part of the immortality spell, maybe that's why.

Anyway. They found him, and they brought him through a Gate, but Blai's magic didn't work and neither did anything else they tried. That's...all, really. 

(Jisa gives her two-minute report in Mindspeech, to avoid disturbing Blai - who already knows what happened - and Stef, who apparently managed to sleep through the entire thing and clearly needs the rest.) 

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(She's not using a directionally-shielded private Mindspeech link and under normal circumstances Seldan could listen in, but Seldan also already knows what happened and he's much too tired.) 

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Vanyel isn't Chelish, but that doesn't mean he's going to let himself cry in front of random Healers. That would be mortifying. 

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Nayoki also has too much dignity to cry in semi-public, though in her case it's more about the King of Valdemar's lifebonded being right there. 

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....Jisa leaves. 

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Shavri is quietly recalculating her plan for today. Not having to prioritize Leareth, who would probably be in much worse shape than the others even if the Cure had worked, does...simplify things. 

She still doesn't think there's any possible world in which one more channel is enough to get everyone through until tomorrow morning. Which...means there are going to be triage decisions to make. Blai doesn't have enough Cure spells left to cover everyone. 

She's vaguely planning to wake Blai as soon as, one, they have other casualties to include in a channel, or two, someone in the room is in bad enough shape that it can't wait any longer; for right now, she doesn't need him yet. She'll explain that to him if he asks but it's not going to occur to her to do it unprompted. 

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If someone has provided him with ginger tea he's gone through a lot of that and is allowing himself to fall back asleep. He is not a wizard. It is fine to wake him up if they need him and that means he can sleep now.

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It's fine for him to sleep! If Shavri had been more on top of things, she would have thought to explicitly tell him that she doesn't expect to need him for at least ninety minutes. 

 

She spends that time checking and re-checking everyone with Sight, making notes, conferring with the other Healers. Gauging the rate of deterioration. 

...There are no lethal-without-Blai's-magic injuries among the other evacuees from the north, at least not that anyone can tell Shavri about in the next ninety minutes; most likely, Shavri thinks, it was only the people who weren't too badly injured who got out at all, anyone who was unconscious when the evacuation was in progress was just...left behind. Also it seems like the mysterious life-force-leaking effect was narrowly targeted and pretty much just hit Leareth's base. Everywhere else was just earthquakes and fire. 

There...are probably a lot of critically injured people along the Iftel border but the current state of their communications with anyone who can speak on behalf of Iftel is not great, and right now Shavri doesn't have the energy to weigh that as a consideration. Someone else's problem. She has too many problems just in this room. 

She can't wait all day for what's left of Leareth's organization to get itself organized, either. Her patients are all leaking life-force continuously and if anything it seems to accelerate as they get weaker and weaker. Blai and Seldan have at least until tonight, she thinks, though neither would make it until dawn without further intervention. Nayoki might have until tonight, the Lesser Restoration apparently did a lot - well, did something - for her body's ability to absorb and benefit from Healing-energy. No one else does. Stef is in the worst shape - he's not very strong to begin with - and she's not sure he has another hour

 

She cuts it pretty close. Buys long enough for Dara to coordinate with Leareth's people, which is apparently an entire project, and get them all on the same page that Haven is no longer especially dangerous for them and has the advantage of containing intact buildings, and arrange to transport a bunch of their injured here. No one is imminently dying, but there are plenty of people who aren't going to make it without Healing attention, and people who will recover eventually but are incapacitated now and may be able to do something helpful once back on their feet. Option value. Shavri has no idea what comes next but it's almost always more helpful than not to have more people functional and more Healers freed up for other things. 

They can cram twentyish people into the room, around the beds and folding cots and the pile of straw for Seldan. (There are bits of straw in her hair now, somehow.) She has someone bring Stef within touching distance of Blai, before they make it impossible to move by filling the room with injured people. 

And then she prods Blai awake.

:Need a Lesser Restoration on Stef.: He's barely holding life-force at all now and she suspects that if they don't address that the channel won't even help that much. :Then channel, we've got as many people in range as we can manage.: 

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She is the expert and he doesn't really know why Stef's important but he is not in a position to thoughtfully absorb this information anyway. He makes his way over to Stef, casts on him, and then grabs his holy symbol and does a bleary double-check of the room and his position before channeling. He has no idea what time it is besides "not dawn". Is there more tea?

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(Well, see, if Stef dies then Vanyel dies. Shavri is fully aware that this might be what's going to happen anyway but...whatever comes next, Vanyel is a useful person in almost all situations. Even if he stays too disabled to do magic, he's probably pretty important for keeping the Heralds' relationship with Leareth's organization on even vaguely friendly terms.

Also, it may or may not be a good reason that Shavri herself feels like her sanity is holding together by a thread and she's not sure she can keep going through the rest of today and tonight if they lose Stef and then inevitably Van. But it's thought in the back of her mind.) 

 

There is plenty of tea. 

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(Nobody has actually told Blai about lifebonds, let alone this specific one, yet.) He empties a mug of tea and curls back up with Seldan to sleep.

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Seldan is pretty bleary but his time-sense is working at all. It's early afternoon. Maybe three candlemarks since Iftel exploded. They've got a very long time to wait until dawn. 

 

...The channel fixed his headache and some of the dizziness, which is pretty nice. He still feels sick, though. Sleep is good. They should do that. 

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Wow, Lesser Restoration is really effective on this. Inconvenient how Shavri suspects it's temporary, but Stef looks better than Vanyel now. Well, temporary improvement isn't nothing. She'll need to ask Blai what the maximum number of them is that he can get tomorrow morning. It's not worth waking him for that question alone, though. 

She thinks Van is a little bit better off than he would be otherwise thanks to his weak Healing-Gift, and Leareth's Healers are benefiting more than that, but...not enough. 

 

Seldan, she thinks, might last until morning even with no other intervention. His baseline life-force isn't as bright as Blai's, but he has a lot of - stamina, the thing Blai was calling 'Endurance' - and he can take a lot of Healing-energy, so he's not losing ground as fast. Blai ought to be able to make it until dawn too at his current rate of deterioration, his life-force got a big boost from the channel, but - barely, it would be cutting it close, so she's not sure of that. He might start fading faster once his remaining life-force is weak enough. Under normal circumstances Seldan could bolster him, Companions are very useful that way, but less so when neither of them is in good shape. 

Stef and Van can more or less freely draw on each other's life-force. Which, again, is of limited use when both of them are dying, but any spell Blai uses on Van will help Stef a little as well, that's a consideration to keep in mind. 

If she hasn't lost count, Blai has five remaining spells that could be converted to single-target healing. Some are stronger and some are weaker? Shavri doesn't have a very good sense of that part. She does have a guess that for most of the people in the room it doesn't even matter; even the weaker spell brings them up to their maximum life-force-brightness. It's possible a strong Healer could get a bit more oomph out of it, maybe they can interact with it like Healing-energy and throw a bunch of it at other people, but - that's a big guess, and it would probably help if the Healer in question wasn't operating on vastly reduced stamina, something that the Cure spells don't touch. 

The question, then, is who gets what. Eight patients, counting Seldan and Blai. Five spells. That's assuming they don't turn up anyone else who is absolutely critical to the...to the next few days, whatever happens...and needs Golarion healing to be functional. 

 

 

In the end, it doesn't seem like any of her clever ideas about pairs of people with entangled life-forces, or Gifted Healers catching and redirecting some of the energy, are going to matter enough to stretch five spells over more people than that. 

Given that, it's pretty obvious what needs to be done. Blai should get the strongest spell – even if he's not the worst off, he's also the only one who can properly benefit from it. Seldan can probably benefit from the second-strongest. Then Van and Stef, critical to Valdemar, and Nayoki, also a critical point of contact with the rest of Leareth's people. That's it, that's all they can cover. Obviously they'll do their very, very best to keep the other three, Leareth's Healers, alive until dawn, but - Shavri isn't hopeful. 

(Again, in a way it simplifies her problems if they don't make it. They're probably going to be tightly limited on Lesser Restorations.) 

She doesn't even bother to try to find out if anyone important from Iftel was rescued with serious injuries. Let Vkandis handle it, this is all His fault anyway, Shavri cannot take responsibility for anything else beyond the people in this room and not even all of them. 

 

Blai is still leaking life-force. Shavri might as well wake him in the early evening, after he's had a solid block of sleep but before he's desperately low, and confirm her theory that he's the only one who will get the full benefit of the strongest healing spell. 

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:That seems likely,: he agrees when he is again awakened at some Not Dawn Time. :Confirming I understand, convert my third circle to cure myself, one of the second circles for Seldan, and the other second circle and two remaining first circles for -? I'm planning to prepare four Lesser Restorations and four Remove Sickness. Remove Sickness will give someone nearly an hour free of the nausea so they can drink water or eat or something but it's only masking the underlying symptoms. Third circle - could do another Lesser Restoration in the slot or could try - Accept Affliction, which might cure any one person outright but might make me twice as badly off, I've never tried it when I have the same problem as the target already - if we think this is energy damage I could try Protection from Energy or Communal Resist Energy - first one is single target, second one I can divide up between people, neither will last all that long but the Protection is longer - if we think more positive energy will help a lot I could do a Symbol of Healing, if I can get mercury, phosphorous, and yea much powdered opal - that would be about as good as one more channel -:

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 Blai’s last three Cure spells should go to Van, Stef, and Nayoki. There’s a faint possibility that Vanyel’s weak Healing-Gift can catch positive energy directly and stretch it further than the direct impact of the spell so in the absence of other considerations, might as well give Van the second-circle spell.

:…I think it’s too much of a gamble to try Accept Affliction, being twice as sick might kill you outright and then we don’t get any more channels.: And they would lose Seldan, who…is honestly a really useful person in his own right for staying coordinated in an emergency, even if everyone else Shavri has been in Mindspeech contact with today is clearly utterly sick of his meddling. 

Sigh. :I wouldn’t really expect Protection from Energy to help now even if it would’ve helped to have it up at time, it’s not like the energy is still around. Though I could be wrong, I don’t always understand how yoir world’s magic works. Does preparing a Lesser Reatoration at third circle make it stronger? Or just mean that you get five?:

Five would be good, because that’s how many people Shavri expects to still be alive an hour after dawn when Blai has his spells. Though the equivalent of an extra channel would be pretty good too.

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:Just means I get five. I don't know if I would bet on the energy spells if I were thinking more clearly:

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Okay. An extra channel equivalent would be awfully nice to have too, but it it’s a choice between that and five Lesser Restorations, she’ll take the latter. She doesn’t really want to gamble on Seldan being able to wait until the next dawn before getting one.

Remove Sickness sounds good. Shavri’s patients are mostly managing to get enough fluids - even if someone is throwing up every few hours, that’s long enough for their body to absorb some of what they drank - but nobody has been able to eat anything at all substantial, and by tomorrow morning that’s going to be seriously hampering the Healing work.

 

(Shavri does not in any way explicitly acknowledge that there are more people in the room right now than spells tonight or Lesser Restorations tomorrow. Blai can presumably notice that for himself and she doesn’t want to talk about it.)

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Cure Serious Wounds. Cure Moderate Wounds. Cure Moderate Wounds. Cure Light Wounds. Cure Light Wounds.

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Good. It’s actually a significant relief, to Shavri, that it worked. There was no rational reason to doubt it, just because it didn’t work on Leareth, but until now she hadn’t actually *seen* it for-sure work on anyone even if channels were helping.

 

Blai’s life-force is very close to its normal brightness now, though — nope, it hasn’t done anything to slow the rate at which he’s leaking it, so that won’t stay true for long. He’s got enough to last him for a nice long while, though. Seldan, too, and Seldan isn’t leaking as fast. Van and Stef seem to be stabilizing each other a bit, now that neither of them is in dire straits. It’ll be hard work, getting them through until morning, but doable. 

Nayoki is worst-off. Her Lesser Restoration was a long time ago now, and she probably burned through some of the benefit by immediately Gating twice. Shavri…is definitely going to have to figure out some tricks to more efficiently get Healing-energy into her, in order to get through the night. But - she thinks it’s doable.

She thanks Blai and brings him more ginger tea.

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Seldan feels so much more alive now! …More alive but only marginally less distractingly miserable, which seems very unfair. 

…Lesser Restoration in the morning, he tells himself. And an hour of not feeling sick. That’s going to be their best opportunity to…think about the strategic situation and where to go from here. No point pushing through now, given that as far as he can tell there’s no new information to go over either. 

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Tea is good. Does it have honey in it or anything, he can take a fair amount of fasting under normal conditions but these aren't.

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They can definitely do honey. Salt, too, if Blai thinks he can tolerate salty tea without just finding the taste nauseating, his body lost a lot of salt. 

(Shavri is a bit distracted. She's trying to figure out how in the world she can slow down Nayoki's life-force leak enough to keep her alive until morning.) 

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He can try Stabilizing her. (He puts salt in his tea and it's not in the top ten worst experiences of his life and doesn't seem to make him any more prone to throwing up than he was already so he will continue to put salt in his tea until a healer tells him he can stop.)

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(Shavri can't tell if Stabilize did anything. It found a valid target, at least, she 'saw' it land, but it's not patching the leak. It might or might not do anything later on, if it's an hour or two before dawn and Nayoki is dangerously low on life force, but she's actually not dangerously low yet. Just...not on a good trend...and they've got more than eight candlemarks to go.) 

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The Heralds meet. 

Dara remembers thinking last week that they were in the worst situation she could imagine. Well. Clearly her imagination sucked. Now they've managed to get Leareth killed, and Iftel is a giant humanitarian disaster and there's not even that much Valdemar can do to help. Blai (and Seldan) are still alive, and Vanyel (and Stef) are still alive, but Shavri made it pretty clear in her last update that they're hard-pressed just keeping things that way, Blai's magic is 100% spoken for, and there's absolutely nothing they can do for the broader situation, unless it involves Blai doing a channel he was going to do anyway with some extra people in the room. Which...Dara isn't sure is a good idea, if those people are Ifteli. Given, uh, the reason why Blai and Van and the others are slowly dying. 

They're going to keep going, because there's literally no choice, and - because Valdemar is still standing.

(Dara did, belatedly, realize that if Vkandis could burn down the shield and turn it into some kind of horrible targeted attack, He could just as easily have targeted Haven. They're not any further from the border. Closer, actually, and much less underground. If Leareth had been here instead of there...) 

 

 

It would be really enormously valuable to have someone who could do the healing-magic channel and was in any shape to step through a Gate, so they could show up there and Heal a bunch of people in the makeshift field hospitals without needing to risk accidentally bringing a priest still loyal to Vkandis into the House of Healing in Haven. Unfortunately, their prospects of getting a Gate up to Blai's world have just hit a very serious setback. Maybe an irreversible setback. Maybe that's just...not on the table, anymore. 

At this point it seems like there can't possibly be any harm in praying to as many of the gods of Blai's world as they can. 

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The god of the shadows is frustrated

 

Everything is fine! The formerly-immortal one's soul is secure - not to mention quiet and no longer making any of its own noise in Foresight - and Vkandis is now actually genuinely completely out of leverage and...'injured' isn't exactly the concept, for a Velgarth god, but - even more thoroughly off the gameboard than would be indicated just from the lack of any more resources to act with. That simplifies the Foresight picture even more. Keeping the formerly-immortal one alive with Vkandis still able to act was really disproportionately expensive.

(Vkandis would have hesitated, if it had been visible in Foresight that this wouldn't work. Which would have been bad! Because the threat would still have been there, and could have landed at a point where it would cost the Shadowgod substantially more.) 

As it is, the Shadowgod now has more ability-to-steer than almost any other god in Velgarth, and it hasn't cost Them very many of their actually-important resources at all. 

 

 

The unfair part is that Cayden the formerly-human god from the other world is mad at them about it. The Shadowgod isn't interested in that. Also it seems like Cayden is a fairly new, fairly weak god, and not necessarily that able to act anyway.

He apparently isn't as mad at the Star-Eyed Goddess, even though She actively tried to kill the soul in question, rather than just choosing not to intervene at high cost and substantial future risk. Cayden is useful for figuring out how to communicate with the mortals more clearly and less expensively, so the Shadowgod will let Him do that with the Star-Eyed Goddess and go looking for other gods who might be more helpful. 

 

There are other gods, though! Older and more powerful ones, too. Gods who were never human, which makes them worse at talking to mortals but could make them easier for other gods to understand. Cayden even said that some of them might be interested in the existence of another world and have advice. 

The Shadowgod will go looking. 

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Hello, stranger. Abadar has wares if you have intervention budget, or whatever other currency, He's flexible.

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Hello!

They have information about another world! Which this god They just talked to communicated is something that might be of interest! They have more influence over the future of that world than any other god in that world right now and are holding onto resources that several of those other gods would like to have instead but do not. One of those resources is a very interesting mortal soul, if this other god would like to look? 

(The Shadowgod does not communicate at all in the expected format that the Lawful gods use to communicate with each other in Golarion. They have only the vaguest understanding of the concept of 'currency' and are translating 'intervention budget' into a concept that doesn't quite seem to match.) 

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Weird. Well, currency exchanges are part of His remit too and they can figure something out. He will have a look at the soul and - oh, that's a nice soul. Abadar will buy it for... this much, or, for calibration, this much in this other format or this much in a third format, though the Shadowgod is welcome to suggest another form of liquidity. These figures include an insurance surcharge for the Shadowgod's illegibility and may decrease if They work out how to be clearer and more verifiable, and will also go down a bit if They hand over the soul first and take payment after. That's assuming it keeps it current that-property, if it loses that then Abadar probably fumbles it before it gets somewhere He can put it to use. But it looks like it will keep it, how nifty.

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.......What??????? 

 

The Shadowgod had not been considering...trading?? this soul?? for other resources to solve Their problems...? It's not out of the question, given that that's apparently a thing that can happen, but They had been - (some muddled effort at communicating what they had been aiming at, 'look at this Foresight here' isn't going to work very well with a god from a world without Foresight that is instead communicating in all of those other baffling concepts) -

- They had been...holding onto the soul, out of the reach of other local gods that would destroy it if They could, until some other mortals (and not-quite-mortals including one who in some ambiguous and debatable sense is Theirs) in the other world, who are also interested in it, could act to retrieve it? Did that communicate it successfully? 

However, it's a fascinating offer to receive, given that most of the gods over in this world really hate the soul under discussion? And the Shadowgod is not inherently opposed to the soul existing and being incarnated in the world, but it certainly has some inconvenient properties, even if those properties inconvenience other gods more and so leave Them at a relative advantage. 

Can the other god perhaps try to communicate why in the world the soul would be worth that much to Them?

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Oh, Abadar operates on many planets and most of them have Foresight, that's not a problem for Him. If the Shadowgod would like the soul resurrected on another planet, Abadar can do that but it will be yea much plus expenses and the expenses are pretty sizeable. It's a valuable soul because - okay, look at it like this, see there? That means that it's a Lawful soul. That's not even a thing there, it's not trying to do that to get status among other humans (though this is a valid thing for a soul to want), it's just like that! Isn't that nice? And if you look from this angle, you can see it's - build-y. It wants there to be Stuff, and for lots of people to be able to Get the Stuff and Have the Stuff. That makes it easier for Abadar to see, when there is lots of wealth and people can shuffle it around amongst themselves like so, that's His thing. It reminds Abadar of an old friend of His, the particular way this soul is build-y. If Abadar sticks it in Axis, or near any established Abadaran church, the place where He sticks it will probably be Enriched! Both because of the Law (the soul will appreciate being stuck in a place where it can do and build, and will be moved to repay this) and also because of the buildyness itself. Have... have the weird gods of this planet not been letting the soul build stuff? Do They not like that kind of thing, are They nature gods or something?

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It's...complicated...although (shuffling, attempting to translate concepts) ...it may not be entirely wrong that the Star-Eyed Goddess is a nature-y goddess and that was part of the objection? The soul did try to build things, very very persistently, it's really quite a stubborn and un-steerable soul as mortals go - oh, right, the soul had also figured out how to wriggle around the usual mortality thing and has been doing this for [attempt to communicate a span of time, the Shadowgod is not especially good at units like "years"] ...Anyway, it did try to build things, and when it succeeded the world was less the sort of thing the Star-Eyed Goddess valued. The Shadowgod did not inherently disvalue that sort of thing but it did have some very inconvenient effects on Foresight visibility, which was - 

 

- oh, right, that would also be important background. The Shadowgod will attempt to translate and push across a description of the Cataclysm. This particular soul was only part of the cause, it's - not inevitable that putting this soul somewhere will cause Cataclysms there, it was in a particular context with particular other souls - but most mortals don't cause Cataclysms ever so that's still alarming. And of course most of the souls that were involved could simply be kept out of the world afterward, to play it safe, but this soul kept coming back and being alarming. 

ALSO also, look at what it wanted to build!!! ...Admittedly, the Shadowgod does not inherently object necessarily to a new god existing, crafted-by-mortals and steering for the...build-y...things, but it's also not hard to understand why this would be very alarming to everyone! And the Shadowgod was not happy about the cost, which would have been - shuffling - this many mortal souls, a very high fraction of them souls under the Shadowgod's remit... 

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Oh it turns out it's not a big problem if you let mortals make gods particularly, any more than it's a problem for other gods who do not want the same things as You to exist in any other fashion (that is to say, sometimes inconvenient but a valuable source of gains from trade). Though that is a sizeable number of deaths and it would be pretty hard to compensate them all for their trouble especially if nobody was letting the build-y soul take remunerative actions and while it is in this state Abadar can't really ask what its plan was there and how it was planning to get title to all those folks so as to be able to reprocess them in this fashion. Still, He likes the look of the soul and He'd take His chances with it if permitted to purchase it.

Are the Velgods bad at seeing? The normal thing is that you can see, both now and where applicable in the future, a) your guys, b) your Thing. Abadar's visibility goes way UP if enough stuff is built and traded even if He doesn't have a guy on the ground there. What is the Shadowgod's Thing? Is Their Thing not working correctly to let Them see?

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...That sounds somewhat different from how things work here, though yes, under normal circumstances the Shadowgod can see Their people reasonably well and especially these - (shuffling) - see, the Shadowgod has a whole system to scoop out some of the souls that were particularly legible and useful when incarnated, and put them back but not just the normal way, put them back in this special form, one that has a very tiny little piece of the god-nature that lives in Foresight directly, and they're set up to stick themselves to a second soul, which wraps their unusually-legible and unusually-steerable Foresight thread around a second soul, making them both legible and providing a particularly effective way to assess the new soul for its future usefulness - admittedly this wasn't entirely the Shadowgod's work, when it was set up, it would have been too expensive singlehanded and other gods contributed their...intervention budget? resources?...but it's the most Their thing. Prior to it you could also sort of shape two mortal souls incarnated in the usual way so they would glue themselves together when they crossed paths in the material plane, and that's also very visible to the Shadowgod. 

The Shadowgod actually had a whole lovely plan, taking advantage of factors They can see a bit better than the other gods can, to subvert all these other gods who wanted to destroy the inconvenient build-y soul, and instead nab all the local visibility and steering-power like this, see, by aiming a mortal They already have good visibility of juuust right, to get a (very small and weak) god shaped out of that mortal, which is really quite a lovely soul, steerable in some ways and not at all in others, the Shadowgod rather wishes They could show off that soul but of course it's not currently in Their possession, being still incarnated, unlike this one. 

...Anyway, the lovely plan fell apart when some mortal from this world turned up for no reason. Not that the Shadowgod intrinsically has any complaints about said mortal! There was a brief opportunity to attempt communication and the mortal was unusually helpful. But everything downstream of them is hard to see in Foresight and thus difficult to steer around, and a lot of plans went awry, and all of the gods started panicking and all of these very messy things happened and eventually the simplest solution was to let one of them burn all of His influence trying to destroy the soul and just do a tiny little nudge to ensure that the soul was somewhere They could get to first. 

All that to say, yes, right now everyone is really bad at seeing and incredibly frustrated about it. But it's not normally quite this bad, normally it's just this one soul that none of Them can see because the soul isn't any of Theirs and has a thing that isn't especially legible to any of Them. 

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What an interesting system! - oh, that guy is one of Iomedae's. Iomedae can give it directions, if She can afford it. Abadar'll happily facilitate and provide cambistry for the transaction if the Shadowgod doesn't have any of the things She's in the market for. If that would help, for the Iomedae Guy to do anything it's not already going to do. If the not being able to see is, while normally not this bad, still a chronic problem, perhaps the Shadowgod would like to subscribe to Abadar having some guys around, and reporting on what He gets from them and their doings. There seem to be many opportunities for trades here. Lots of parties that want things to be different, and have stuff they could use to buy others' help in making the things be different.

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Oh! The Shadowgod would definitely sign up for Abadar having some mortals belonging to Them in Velgarth and then sharing information. If that's an option. There are probably suitable mortals around already, it doesn't need to be someone from Abadar's world traveling there, if that's more expensive. The Shadowgod is willing to pay for this, in whatever resource they can agree on, but would prefer the least expensive setup. 

The Shadowgod was also under the impression, from some successful communication that occurred with the mortal who belongs to Iomedae, that Iomedae really cannot afford to do very much of anything right now? Anyway, Her mortal seems generally inclined to do things that improve the situation (from the Shadowgod's perspective, not some of the other gods' perspectives), apart from the aspect where no one can see what the things will accomplish until afterward. But this is currently patched by the Shadowgod having sent back one of Their especially-legible souls to glue itself to Iomedae's mortal, so now the lack of visibility to the other gods is strictly an advantage for Them. ...If Iomedae could afford to give Her mortal stronger magic, that would help with some of the...limitations...in managing the state of the world right now, but if She would want the Shadowgod to pay for it, that's...not obviously worth it to the Shadowgod right now.

...The Shadowgod is going to consider whether They can afford to have Abadar resurrect the soul currently in their possession on another planet, since They're pretty sure that the soul would immediately start working on figuring out how to travel back, but They doubt it's the least expensive way to accomplish travel between the worlds. There are several other options and the Shadowgod is not particularly bothered about some of them taking a long time. 

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Iomedae can't afford to do anything, which is why Someone Else would need to cover Her expenses. She's probably happy to do loads more if those are covered. But yeah, She's not going to do it on Her own recognizance because She is worried about some stuff on Her main planet. Abadar will sell a description of what Iomedaean mortals are likely to do for this very reasonable price if the attached-soul situation isn't cutting it but if the Shadowgod is happy with Their own management of the matter then that's all to the good.

Travel between worlds works by giving a guy one of these here spells, usually, but maybe something local to Velgarth will work, perhaps even more cheaply. Iomedae's guy isn't strong enough for any of the standard spells but could get that way if, again, Someone covered Her costs.

Abadar can sift through guys. He likes... that guy, best of all of the available guys, though this does not actually seem like a very Abadar-rich location. Now, He'll subsidize the enterprise, since He does like having guys, but He would like some local investment both because He likes the concept of investment per se and also because establishing a new church tends to be more expensive than just directing a guy to an existing one. The Iomedaean guy might help, it's been near an Abadaran guy in the past, but it's hard to say how much because that all happened on Golarion which doesn't have prophecy. Say, this much of an expected discount.

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The Shadowgod has lots of Their specialized legible and direct-able soul-incarnations nearby! They can all get instructions to be helpful. Iomedae's mortal can also be given hints that way, and has the advantage of knowing how it works to be a mortal under a god from Abadar's world. This seems like the best angle the Shadowgod has on contributing, here; They can also nudge for events with an element of chance to go well for Abadar's new mortal, but that relies on Foresight and the Abadar-magic may end up interfering with visibility. Is that sufficient as an "investment" on Their part? The Shadowgod is a little confused about how that works. 

...If this isn't a very Abadar-rich location, are there any other gods - ones with more resources than Iomedae - who might find mortals they like? And could have the suggestion floated to Them that it's worth looking? 

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There's plenty of random mortals a bit farther out than this central city that Erastil would probably like. Abadar can tell because these are humans and humans have to eat and they are only yea rich and when they are only yea rich that practically always means they have farms located in rural areas that are harder for Abadar to see except on market day. Erastil likes those, or at least can usually find some to like among a sufficient bunch of them. If they're getting along great with the Iomedae guy, Sarenrae and Shelyn might be able to find guys, but Abadar has very poor visibility on the sorts of things they're into so He doesn't know for sure, just a general correlation where Humans Who Like Iomedaeans Might Also Like... kind of thing. If they go in for nature gods around here maybe there's nobody left for Gozreh to scoop up but you never know. Pharasma's usually a big game, though She's chosen for whatever reason to let the Velgods do something strange here and maybe She doesn't want a Velgarth church for whatever reason. Irori's not out of the question but it looks possibly too... hm... too something, but Abadar's not sure.

It's not like Abadar's finding nothing here, he just sort of gets the impression that this place has been at this tech level for so long quashing so much innovative pressure in the process that the humans have culturally forgotten that things get any Abadar!cooler than market day. Like, do they even have fractional reserve banking? They might perk right up with some attention to the place but it isn't guaranteed.

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…Oh. That’s - clarifying. It gets a concept across that the Shadowgod hadn’t quite gotten to cohere from the “build-y” handle alone. No wonder Abadar likes the soul currently in Their possession, this soul is ALL ABOUT the innovation thing. And really difficult to entirely quash. If Abadar looks over that way - it’s somewhere the Shadowgod has almost no visibility and They might actually pay Abadar something not to have any guys there, and also the lack of visibility is because they don’t like gods in general and probably wouldn’t want to be Abadar’s guys, but it has much more of the innovation thing. The immortal noisy soul pushed very very hard for it. 

(The Shadowgod is not inherently disapproving, but...innovation isn't Their thing, They have no particular advantage to seeing it like Abadar does, only the slight relative advantage of often seeing further in Foresight than the other gods, but...that's significantly downstream of not being in a hurry to act. Two thousand years was a perfectly acceptable length of time to wait for the opportunity to nudge the - not the hard-to-steer soul directly, given "hard to steer", but the circumstances - for a version of the plan that benefited Them as well.) 

 

…If Erastil likes humans outside of cities who grow food, it might help this world a lot for Erastil to see if anyone over there wants to be one of His mortals? It used to belong to Vkandis but, currently, they have a very bad problem and are probably not going to have enough food. And some of them might be mad at Vkandis and looking for a different god to belong to.

The nature god was recently - well, Cayden Cailean seemed to think She had been horrible to some of Her people, and the flavor of horribleness involves many of them being dead but this soul over here is alive. And still seems to want to be Hers but maybe only for lack of any better options? 

(The Shadowgod would not complain about the Star-Eyed Goddess losing more of Her resources, even if She might be on board with Their aims now. It's not guaranteed and it certainly isn't guaranteed to stay true once everything settles down.)

The Shadowgod would definitely appreciate an introduction to Shelyn and Sarenrae, or for Abadar to pass messages, whichever They have to pay the least for. (It may be becoming evident that the Shadowgod does not really like 'paying' other gods for things and isn't used to it.) 

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Valid to not want to be Abadar's guys. There's civilizations on lots of planets that do not want to be anybody's guys. Abadar can see okay in there because they're still transacting, but He does not feel urgent about putting guys in there, it looks like that would be maybe illegal and that's usually a huge waste of a guy.

Erastil's guys cannot be of that much help with the food thing until they are about as powerful as the aforementioned Iomedaean guy, which is a major investment, though maybe they can get there with... firefighting...? Abadar will sell Erastil a pointer but it will probably not come to very much. Wow a lot of value was destroyed there for... nothing? Approximately nothing. What An Asshole Vkandis Is Apparently.

If you have some guys you really have to make it pretty clear to them under what circumstances and for what kinds and amounts of benefits you will kill them or it's what We in the business of having guys call a dick move. Kind of like fogging the humans' Foresight? They don't have the real thing but humans actually LOVE knowing what is likely to happen in the future and will spend valuable time/money/spell slots on being more confident about it; that is one of the ways they can vibe with Abadar about Law. Would the Shadowgod like an infodump about prediction markets? And contracts with a detour into the concept of specific performance? Gratis, it's a special interest of Abadar's.

Abadar would be happy to introduce Shadowgod to Shelyn and Sarenrae both for yea much; is nudging the burgeoning trade in chava a good currency, does that work for Them, it's so pretty and looks like it could get big - though truth be told Shadowgod can probably save fifty percent by being introduced to only one of the two and getting Her to introduce Them to the other one.

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Look, the Shadowgod does not disagree that killing Your mortals - especially the ones who are more “yours” then just living in the right territory - is costly far beyond just no longer having that particular mortal. It’s short-sighted! The resources lost aren’t regained just by picking another mortal. Vkandis always has tended to be impatient, though, and - was apparently very alarmed about something. Maybe learning that the other world lost Foresight in their Cataclysm. …That’s not actually contagious, right? 

(This is why the Shadowgod thinks it was unfair and pointless for Cayden to be mad at Them over recent events. The Shadowgod didn’t even kill the soul They have right now, just declined to continue indefinitely nudging away other gods’ interventions, at an unknown and possibly very expensive total cost, and also this particular soul was not their mortal and should have had no expectation that the Shadowgod would intervene in its favor if there were other perfectly adequate paths to the same goal.)

…The Shadowgod will accept free education on those things, sure. It might even be helpful for understanding mortals better, and buy Them more of an advantage at seeing around Foresight noise! 

It takes a bit of doing for the Shadowgod to grasp what Abadar is pointing at regarding the “chava trade”, but sure, that actually has some levers of visibility for Them! A mortal glued to a particularly high-visibility soul - that one, see, it was never human, it’s constructed specially - anyway, that mortal is involved somehow, apparently? So the Shadowgod isn’t even limited to coincidence-nudging, They can send some input that this is especially valuable. 

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...Abadar does not think the Shadowgod fully understands the way in which it is a dick move to kill one's mortals but that is the sort of misunderstanding Abadar is not that interested in correcting for free, it sounds like it would be time-consuming. Anyway, losing Foresight is not contagious.

Cayden is a very emotional sort of god and Abadar cannot be of much help in decoding His opinions on things. Instead He will talk about the fun stuff. Here's how it all works.

That seems like a satisfactory way to make sure the trade lines that human opened up stay robust. Pleasure doing business with you. Shadowgod, Sarenrae. Sarenrae, Shadowgod.

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Charmed, She's sure?

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Hello, Sarenrae!

 

The Shadowgod has learned some things, over the course of that conversation as well as the earlier one with Cayden, about communicating in the ways that this other world's gods expect. 

Here is this other world! It has Foresight, unlike Her world apparently, though Foresight is having some problems lately. Here's the current general situation!

One of Iomedae's mortals has been here for a while and doing things, and wandered into the middle of a lot of setup by multiple gods - including this one goddess killing a lot of Her people, like so, which their world's gods apparently frown upon - and things got messy. This soul (that Abadar apparently really liked) is now in the Shadowgod's possession after this other god spent down literally all of His remaining resources and caused quite a lot of damage to try to kill and then permanently destroy that mortal (who was previously not actually mortal but there was a prior plot.) 

The Shadowgod declined to sell the soul in Their possession to Abadar but accepted Abadar's offer to go see if He liked any of the local mortals, and He thought it was possible Sarenrae would like some of them! The Shadowgod can point out the ones in close proximity to Iomedae's mortal, since Abadar thought that could be predictive of Sarenrae liking some of them?

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Sarenrae has lots of worlds, Golarion is actually the only busted one.

It is a great wrong to one's people to kill them. It can look like the right choice, but if You find Yourself thinking that the right choice is to smite a bunch of people - like, normal living people, not undead or something - then You have probably made some kind of mistake and should get help or rethink the situation with three times as much of Your attention or something. Was the soul in question an undead or something? It is probably reasonably high welfare for souls that Abadar likes to be purchased by Him, if the Shadowgod was worried about that. She doesn't live in or administer Axis, she's a Nirvanan goddess over here instead, but the people who dwell in Axis like it a lot by and large.

Proximity to the Iomedaean is not that predictive (Iomedaeans sometimes wade into groups of undead, for example, to kill them) but getting along well with the Iomedaean might be, maybe that's what They meant. You can tell when mortals get along well because their presence near each other has an amplifying effect on their efficacy at their tasks instead of an interference effect and they sometimes take actions to continue to be near one another. Anyway, She does like some of the mortals around here. She could pick up a round dozen to start out if She were trying to start a nascent Sarenrite movement here? Should She be doing that? There can be so much strife when there's new churches that do not already understand how to work in their context qua church well. She'd be a bit worried that the mortals would misunderstand something and be expensive to rein in.

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The Shadowgod has to puzzle out what 'undead' means and - no, the soul in question was not exactly that, although it was complicatedly not-exactly-mortal via a mechanism that involved killing other mortals to take over their bodies.

(Not that this was really Anyone's main objection, just something that made it possible to end up with a lot more total god-enmity toward this specific soul. The Shadowgod would ideally like the soul to stop doing that, but that wasn't the top reason for deciding to nab it rather than trying to avert the Vkandis plot entirely. ...The Shadowgod would in fact, to be clear, have tried very hard to stop the plot if They had any real lead time, but there...wasn't much warning, probably because it was precipitated by something downstream of Her world that none of Them can see, and it was already quite significantly expensive intervening toward it killing fewer additional mortals for no reason.) 

 

...On the one hand, it probably is a good time to have a dozen mortals with Sarenrae-magic. The Iomedae-mortal's magic is so limited and the Shadowgod has managed to figure out that the situation - and the less-expensive and less-long-term paths to the mortals finding their own way to travel between this world and Hers - would definitely be more tenable if it was stronger, but apparently Iomedae is broke and can't intervene to make that mortal's magic stronger even if it would help significantly. On the other hand, while the Shadowgod didn't entirely follow the thread of reasoning about Her concerns, Their concerns about this making it once again impossible to see anything still stand. They agreed to pay Abadar by providing local investment in the Abadar church and that's going to become difficult to impossible if Foresight goes back to being as noisy as it was at some points recently. Technically They can pass instructions to this particular set of specialized reincarnated souls fairly directly, but They haven't relied on it nearly so hard in the past and it might end up garbled. 

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It's good that it wasn't an undead. You mostly just can't get anywhere trying to redeem the undead. Though She does disapprove of the bodysnatching behavior. Why didn't Vkandis leave any opportunity to talk Him down? Do they not have legible ways to make agreements like "if I bring this idea up with you, you can't use that information to stop me unless you convince me"? That's very important in normal theopolitics.

Iomedae is broke, yeah. She's still making Her cleric stronger! Just, only in the usual fashion where the cleric gets experience doing things in the world and creates more room in himself for more power that way. That's the way they all do it almost all of the time.

Sarenrae does not think that clericing locals will be as noisy as importing extraplanetary visitors (of any class) from Golarion. The histories of the new clerics will still be local and the clerichood mechanism itself is well understood. Garbled visions are only one potential source of uncertainty, though. Even with prophecy in perfect working order, it is often (as the Velgods seem to have noticed) more effective and efficient to smite people than to support them, to get the result You're aiming for. Sarenrae tries not to smite people, or even renounce them, She really hates it, and this ties Her hands somewhat. She's got schisms for days, countries that love Her keep doing war and empire and slavery even when She gets pretty good turnaround on individual people giving those things up because new people keep finding their way into the mechanisms that create those things, and of course even if She very clearly instructs Her people to practice the strictest of nonviolence unless there is an undead or something this may result in a) people managing to confuse themselves into thinking their enemies are undead or something, or b) enemies who are not undead or something rolling right over her people. She still thinks Her churches are a force for good, but there's not even undead around here? ...also She thinks the whole "Nirvana is for everyone" message may suffer somewhat with the whole no afterlife thing this planet is doing, She'd need to workshop a new holy book with some angels to come up with a reincarnation-oriented doctrine.

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N.....o? They do not have that. The– actually the Shadowgod is having substantially more trouble figuring out what the thing is than with Abadar and the already-very-odd method of explicitly trading godresources of various kinds for another god doing the thing You wanted. Here they pretty much just have...figuring out which set of the things You want overlap with what other gods with nearby-enough remit to be relevant is, and pushing in the same direction on those, and slipping opposed goals in sideways on angles where They aren't looking as closely. 

Maybe Sarenrae can choose one or two mortals for now? It makes sense that people native to the world becoming one of Her mortals would be less disruptive than importing interplanetary visitors, and that should mean that the Shadowgod can...try...to nudge things so that particular mortal is not backed into corners where killing a lot of the other mortals is the clearest path forward. The Shadowgod has noted that very few mortals are completely unsteerable into killing a lot of other mortals, but for some of them it takes quite a lot of doing to wedge them into it and for others it takes significant steering to get them not to. Is that the kind of thing Sarenrae can see about mortals?

...Here's one mortal that the Shadowgod thinks will only kill other mortals under quite a lot of pressure, and even then, directing this mortal to be somewhere usually means that fewer other mortals will die than if it were a different mortal on that path, and that's more true if this mortal has more steering-power, when often the opposite is the case. The Shadowgod previously had a lovely plan to have this mortal end up with a lot of steering-ability and wedge the not-undead-bodysnatching soul into accomplishing its utterly unsteerable aim, which the Shadowgod does not inherently object to, in a way that killed fewer mortals in Their territory, which They did object to. But the plan didn't work out; Nobody's plans have worked out since the Iomedae-mortal appeared on the scene. (The Shadowgod also does not inherently object to this, and the Star-Eyed Goddess might be coming around on it too, She seems convinceable on the point that She should not have smited so many of Her mortals in the leadup to the plan that the Shadowgod had been intending to wrangle into Their mortal soul getting lots of steering-power.) Isn't it an excellent soul, though? 

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Oh, Sarenrae can see when people do not want to kill people. This is just... not... as predictive... as you'd hope. Especially since She often does want people who want to kill undead and stuff like that and then later they can get confused, or turn out to have neglected their soft skills and not have them when they would have been called for.

That is a pretty nice soul but, hm, not quite Hers. She could pick it up if it were really important and they'd do fine together but it's not centrally Her type. It is less The Shining Clear Principles and more like... well, Shelyn would probably like it. It has a Shelyn-esque squidginess. Shelyn's great, hopefully the Shadowgod will like Her. She's over here, not too far in conceptspace from Sarenrae, but (weird god concepts that boil down to "Shelyn is bouba and Sarenrae is kiki".)

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(Hmm, the Shadowgod doesn't think that the thing They see is what mortals want to do? They are trying to learn how to do more of that, both Cayden and Abadar explained different angles on why it's relevant even if it doesn't show up directly in Foresight. But the thing the Shadowgod can see is very much...what happens, in Foresight, in the absence of particularly contrived path-narrowing optimization to push a mortal in a pretty direction, and how much Foresight-attention and nudging it takes if They want mortals to be killed, or conversely if They want mortals to not be killed.) 

Oh, well, if there are other souls that She would rather pick as Hers then probably She should do that. The Shadowgod expects They will like Shelyn! So far They have found all of the gods They've interacted with perfectly pleasant, except for Cayden on specifically the point of being mad at Them for using Vkandis' smiting plot to grab the not-undead one's soul rather than expending a frankly unreasonable amount of resources to try to prevent it from working at all. Hopefully Shelyn will be less unreasonable on that point, it was tedious. 

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What mortals want even when they then go on to have abominable moral luck is of great importance to Sarenrae because it can matter in their soul trials, it makes sense the Shadowgod would have less focus on that. Cayden is not very budget conscious, which is understandable but does make Him hard to talk to about some things. If the slain were all going to Nirvana or somewhere else nice He might chill out about it a bit more. Hint hint.

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Hello there new friend!

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(The Shadowgod did not really follow what that hint was about but They noticed that a hint existed! That's actually quite a lot of progress in Their ability to receive communications from other gods, They're starting to figure this out, the gods of the other world have clearly invested quite a lot more in it. They have other priorities right now but will perhaps wonder more about it later.) 

 

Hello!

The Shadowgod has now gotten Their explanation down to a nice concise packet. Here is this other world! With working Foresight and gods that seem to be different from Golarion gods in these ways and this nice efficient soul-reuse reincarnation setup instead of whatever Her world has (the Shadowgod has also not entirely pieced that together yet). Things were at a delicate juncture with some steering related to this one soul currently in Their possession, which has these traits that Abadar and Sarenrae commented on, and then one of Iomedae's mortals landed here for no clear reason and things got very messy and there was a lot of smiting! Abadar was interested in picking some mortals here and now the Shadowgod is talking to other recommended gods about whether They also want to do that. Here's this lovely soul that Sarenrae thought Shelyn might like!

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Oh Shelyn LOVES that soul. She loves most, arguably all, souls, but that one is very friend shaped and aligned. Is this soul friends with the Iomedaean? ... kind of? The Iomedaean is - oh, the Iomedaean got redeemed recently and is still learning how to friendship, that explains it - what is the Shadowgod steering for here precisely at this point?

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'Friendship' is...the thing Sarenrae said, "You can tell when mortals get along well because their presence near each other has an amplifying effect on their efficacy at their tasks instead of an interference effect and they sometimes take actions to continue to be near one another"? Mostly the Shadowgod thinks that these mortals have been under very steep other constraints when it came to what they could steer for and 'taking actions to continue to be near one another' was maybe not something there was room left for? 

 

The Shadowgod was until recently steering for...more ability-to-steer without needing to expend a lot of steering-power on working around this god and that other god, who were responsible for this and that smiting lots of Their mortals to, in the event, not even achieve anything. The picture is now a lot cleaner and They can steer for more specific things than that! In the near term They are trying to find ways to nudge for less ongoing disruption from the more recent smiting. It was a very big smiting, and the advantage of allowing it to happen is that now that god is approximately no longer a factor, but the Shadowgod did not actually prefer for huge numbers of the other god's mortals to die. They also want to steer for this in a way that doesn't immediately make the Foresight picture horribly messy again, but it seems like any noise introduced by the gods of the other world picking some mortals in this world will be mitigated by the fact that They can see Their mortals and trade information with the Shadowgod about what's going on? 

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Oh friendship is more complicated and beautiful than that but it's not Sarenrae's Thing so She doesn't see it as brightly as Shelyn does. Friendship is... the thing that the Shadowgod sometimes hooks up on purpose when gluing souls together like this or like that. Mortals can do that themselves too, they can get that way just by approving of each other and choosing to support each other's goals. It's SO pretty. Look! Look at these beautiful things You did, Shadowgod, and You weren't even trying for it, they love each other so much, it's so sparkly. Look at it from here, and then again from here, see it's almost symmetrical but in a pleasing organic way - these examples are really clear because of the soul gluing, but Shelyn can see it without that too, it's Her favorite, look look look how pretty - oh, She got a prayer about keeping this one's body safe, is its soul safe too? Will they be able to put it back so it can be together with its friend again? They're so sad when they have to be apart. The lovely soul the Shadowgod showed her has two glued-on friends and only one of them is alive! That must make it so sad!

Anyway yes that disaster looks very disastrous, there's a lot of grieving going on up there. Are those departed souls safe? Will they get to go somewhere nice and rest and heal? Will they see their loved ones again?

Shelyn can work with people whose own personal loved ones are lost forever but it's really, really hard, it takes an incredibly special mortal to do Shelynism correctly while suffering from a problem like that.

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Shelyn is talking about– oh, yes, of course, that one! The Shadowgod has that soul right over here - it's one of Their special souls, with these modifications, see, to make the soul Shelyn likes more legible, the Shadowgod is quite proud of the whole setup - except that this modification got undone because it turned out to be a problem. Anyway the Shadowgod is in favor of having it put back as soon as it's feasible for the mortals to figure that part out themselves, the Shadowgod can do it but it would be too expensive to do it anytime particularly soon, given that They already used that lever as a one-off to put this soul here to be glued to Iomedae's mortal and make it visible and at all possible to steer. 

...The dead mortal souls are with Vkandis. Only some of them belonged to Vkandis in any sense when they were incarnated, but no one else had stronger remit for the ones that died over here, and Vkandis had been trying very hard to grab all of the souls there in order to be sure of getting the particular soul it wanted. The Shadowgod managed to get that soul by arranging for it to be moved here before it died but it wasn't practical to do that for all the mortals who died over there - which is in any case a small fraction of the total deaths, there were fewer mortals than in Vkandis' territory proper and most of them got themselves out - and the Shadowgod wasn't aiming for it. Anyway, Shelyn would have to talk to Vkandis. Good luck with that. 

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Okay, as long as they'll be able to put it back! That's probably why they're keeping the body safe. The Iomedaean isn't big and strong enough to do it alone though. It was very good of the Shadowgod to give that Iomedaean a soulgluefriend, it doesn't know how yet because it used to be in a very bad place, it will help a lot She thinks.

She will... certainly have to talk to Vkandis about what He does with souls, yes. She doesn't think She's ever once seen a soul from here wind up in any normal place where souls go. It looks like the reincarnation thing can sometimes be very sweet, c.f. the living soulgluefriend of the soul Shadowgod is so proud of, but being mortal is mostly not actually very good for souls and they should get to rest eventually.

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The Shadowgod is very glad that Shelyn likes what They did with Iomedae's mortal! It solved some otherwise rather gnarly steering constraints and none of the other gods with opposed plots were expecting it and They think it was very clever. 

The Shadowgod is not really following what Shelyn thinks is not good for the souls about being incarnated as mortals? When they're not incarnated they just sit there not even doing anything. It makes sense that different gods care more about things They can see better, though, the Shadowgod was willing to help Abadar with the "chava" "trade" when that was what He wanted and He was helping with the Shadowgod's goals in exchange, and They would also be willing to work with Shelyn on the thing She cares about as long as it's compatible with Their other plans here. Cooperating like that seems like the way to go. ...The Star-Eyed Goddess over there might be easier to talk to first, She is also holding onto some souls from Her mortals that She smited earlier but She seems more amenable to considering that this was a bad idea. 

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Does the Shadowgod not only not usually funnel souls to afterlives but also not even know about afterlives. Here, have a look at Nirvana. Souls go in it and they do stuff, but they also get less - crackly and brittle, less stretched out, less trembly. If there are any souls the Shadowgod has ahold of and is not using, they can go there. Shelyn will talk to the Star-Eyed about Her souls too.

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Ohhhh what a fascinating way to do things.

...Can the Shadowgod give Shelyn some souls for safekeeping there and still ask for them back later if that soul would be especially useful for Their system with the soulgluefriends? Nirvana does seem like a nice idea but the Shadowgod is less interested if it means giving up future option value in terms of the range of potential soulgluefriends available to incarnate. 

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Hmm. So, souls in Nirvana can usually be resurrected according to the usual time limit (it's this algorithm varying with the resurrecter's strength) and She is confident that if necessary Her lawyers can make the case that incarnating as a soulgluefriend is the same deal. She is less confident that the time limit will not apply, that'd require some work, and She does not think She can arrange for noncon incarnation - souls are always allowed to refuse resurrection. The Shadowgod could still stack the deck, by like, telling the soul in Nirvana about their potential friend and how much they need help and why this particular soul is a good fit, but they'd still get to say no.

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...The Shadowgod will think about it. They are not inherently opposed and probably something is workable but (reluctance to let go of any resources in Their possession without an obvious route to this getting Them more of what They want.) 

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Well, the same rules would apply to any of the souls who make it to Nirvana by other means. The Shadowgod could let go of a soul that needs rest more than it wants another turn at life, and sift through tons and tons that would like to go do mortal stuff with their new best friend. It's actually a really common frustration in within-time-limit arrivals to Nirvana that they can't go do mortal stuff any more, often because they miss specific mortal stuff they were in the middle of but not always.

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That is an appealing pitch! The Shadowgod is not particularly placed to assess whether a mortal soul needs rest more than it wants another turn at life, except to the extent that this appears in Foresight via some mortals having a stronger tendency to Do Lots Of Things than others, and that's not even always a good thing when the soulgluefriends are concerned. But more souls to pick from is always good, even if some weird additional constraints apply. 

Good talk! The Shadowgod is satisfied with Their inroads on making godalliances with the other world, and delighted that Shelyn appreciates Their mortal so much, it really is such a lovely soul. 

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The night passes, minute by minute. 

 

Shavri could really use a Lesser Restoration, it's been an incredibly long day, but she's not going to get everything she wants, is she. She takes some of the Tayledras stimulant, the really strong one. It makes her feel like she's a disembodied soul possessing her own body - huh, did Leareth feel like that, was that why he was always so bloody impossible to read - anyway, it's fine, her Sight works perfectly well and her emotions are gone or at least irrelevant. 

She coordinates their roster of Healers. Trainees aren't useful for this, even for the simplest part of propping up the patients' leaking life-force; it takes more skill to hold a link to someone whose body is slowly losing the ability to process its own life-force let alone get any use out of Healing-energy. Preventing the inflammation from cell damage in their brains from spiralling is really delicate work and, honestly, there aren't really enough Healers who can do it at all. By midnight, she has to make the call whether to keep people on duty longer than is really responsible or eve necessarily safe for them - Healers can drain themselves dangerously low and get backlash too - or drop to only three senior Healers who she trusts with that work. 

Shavri picks the latter. They're going to need to get through tomorrow, not just tonight. Van and Stef both need a lot of attention by now, so there's no option but to assign them a person each, in addition to the more junior Healers just doing energy-links. The third Healer will have to rotate between Nayoki - who isn't really in better shape than Van or Stef, just slightly less of a disaster to lose - and Blai, who after all needs to be clearheaded enough at dawn to pray to his goddess. Seldan will just have to cope until morning. He should be okay, Companions are very hardy and Groveborn moreso. 

 

One by one, in the early hours of the morning, one by one, the three injured Healers from Leareth's organization - who aren't getting any Healing-attention to their brains - stop being rousable.

Shavri thinks, belatedly, numbly, that maybe she should have thought to tell them to pray before they lost consciousness. Or, you know, said in actual words at any point that of course they'll keep their bodies somewhere safe and, if they do ever have a chance, get them resurrected with Golarion magic. 

She pulls the Healers holding energy-links off. It lets her assign an extra person to Nayoki, whose body is really faltering now, and send the other two to get a little bit of sleep. 

She sits with each of them, for a little while, and - doesn't have any feelings at all, only the distant thought that this is moderately educational to watch with her Sight. She wonders what Jisa would see on Mindhealing Sight. It's probably a good thing Jisa doesn't have to see it, her daughter has been through enough. 

 

Shavri gets help to move the bodies out of the room.

She gets a couple of trainees to take over poking people awake every so often to try to consume fluids. No one's happy about it either way but it's probably preferable for it to be done by someone whose face can pull off normal human emotions.

She feels so cold. ...She asks multiple people if the room feels cold to them, that seems bad for the patients, but apparently it's not that. It's just her, and maybe it's not really physical at all. It feels like maybe something in her is broken, and it's not something that all the magic in the world will fix. 

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She wakes Blai a little while before dawn. If she prioritized badly overnight and he's too groggy to pray for his spells, it would be good to know that beforehand so she can frantically throw some extra Healing effort at him. Maybe she should have given him a dedicated Healer and let Nayoki die, she didn't want to but no one is surviving the day if Blai can't get his spells. 

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:What time is it:

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Oh, that's a relief, he's at least capable of thinking in words. Nayoki wasn't, the last time Shavri went to check on her. Nayoki probably doesn't have more than two hours without a Lesser Restoration, and that's assuming the Healers with her do everything perfectly at every moment, which is a lot to ask when they've all been on duty for more than twelve candlemarks. Shavri is going to feel like such a spectacular idiot if Blai loses consciousness or something halfway through praying for spells and doesn't get them and it turns out Nayoki doesn't even survive long enough to have gotten it anyway.

 

:About five or ten minutes before dawn, I think. It's cloudy and I didn't want to cut it too close. How are you feeling.: 

From her viewpoint, he's getting a bit dehydrated despite all the tea - though he's better off than literally anyone else, Stef was getting cranky enough to throw or at least clumsily-knock-over his tea on the trainee bringing it - and the honey in the tea isn't enough, his body is starting to burn its own muscle for fuel, and there's increasing damage accumulating to all the non-vital organs. A Lesser Restoration aimed at Endurance probably won't even get most of that - like with Randi, the first one got him back from the brink of dying but it didn't leave him able to walk. On the bright side, it looks like maybe some of the various panic-reactions his body was having that were causing the worst of the nausea are running their course? There's still a lot of deeper damage there, some kind of underlying injury that the channels weren't touching, but it's not going to kill him today and tomorrow is tomorrow-Shavri's problem. 

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:I've been worse: He'll take his five or ten minutes to pee and drink another mug of tea with honey and salt in it. And then he drops to his knees, leaning heavily against Seldan's side, to wait for the sun to rise.

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There was a very serious meeting yesterday with the Senior Circle, after became clear that Leareth hadn't made it, and was still deeply unclear that anyone else with him at the time would survive. 

(Some part of Joshel doesn't even believe it. Leareth can't be dead, surely, he's too smart and devious and he's been fighting the gods for too long to go down like that. Maybe it was some sort of brilliant trick to fool Vkandis by...making a Leareth-imposter with magic, or something...and the real Leareth is off in hiding in Seejay or something...) 

Anyway. There are not many things the Heralds can actually do, but Dara did say that everyone should pick a god from the list Blai gave Seldan and Seldan gave Rolan, and pray, and maybe one of those gods is less constrained than Iomedae and can help. Shavri thought that everyone who got hurt will die eventually, in days or weeks, without more healing-magic than Blai has alone, and of course they don't have any way to get to Golarion now, Leareth was the one who could (probably) do that. 

 

So Joshel is up and dawn, and obviously he's praying to Abadar. The god of banks! What a charmingly useful, practical, sensical thing for a god to be the god of! Hi, Abadar, if you're listening, Joshel thinks you sound really great! 

...What else is prayer supposed to involve. Joshel isn't sure he can summon up the right attitude to worship Abadar, who he doesn't know very much about except for 'runs banks', even though he would almost certainly attend temple services if they were available. Uh. What else did he learn about Abadar that sounded impressive and good...? 

Joshel heard that Abadar's banks issue insurance! Insurance is great just, like, conceptually! Joshel read a treatise about various insurance setups that Vanyel recommended to him, and then more recently brought it up at a Senior Circle meeting when they were doing all the negotiations with mercenaries trying to find companies to be on-call in case Leareth invaded, and Joshel had been trying to figure out if anyone provided insurance to mercenary companies against, like, not getting paid if the kingdom employing them lost the war and was conquered, and if so whether Valdemar could offer to pay for that insurance, because Valdemar absolutely could not afford to pay half up front but Joshel felt like they were dealing in bad faith if they were signing contracts that they might end up de facto backing out of due to not existing as a kingdom anymore.

Although then Randi said it sounded like something Leareth would come up with and gave Van the kind of hard look that meant he was wondering if Leareth had been the scholar who wrote that book, and of course that got Tran to dig in his heels about everything even tangentially related to it, so nothing came of it... Wow, if this had happened six months ago then Tran would probably be delighted about Leareth's death, but - that was before they all got a close-up view of why Leareth's complaints about the existing gods are really quite understandable, not that Joshel wanted the man to conquer Valdemar, obviously, that wouldn't do, but - no stop going on digressions, he's supposed to be praying here - Leareth invading Valdemar to use its population for blood-magic to make a god is probably not the sort of thing you can solve with insurance but some trustworthy neutral arbitration could have gone a really long way... 

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Yes, Abadar likes this one. It's been brought up in such terrible poverty, but of positive sum trades great wealth can grow in these conditions.

Boop.

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!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dara Dara Dara something happened! 

 

...Shit he did not get. Instructions. For what to do if Abadar liked him! (Joshel is unbelievably touched that it seems like Abadar likes him!!!!!! This might be the second-best thing ever to happen to him, and he would call it the best thing if that didn't seem too mean and hurtful to his Companion.)

And he can't ask Blai right now because Blai is also busy praying.

Um. Can Abadar give him whatever spells Blai is getting, at least the ones he's strong enough for? Probably those are sensible spells for the current situation? Unfortunately the current situation calls for healing magic way more than it calls for insurance magic, if Abadar has that, Joshel doesn't actually know what Abadar has and is really hoping Blai will be in okay shape later today to ask for advice on how Abadarans are supposed to do things. He wants to be a good Abadaran cleric! He really doesn't want to disappoint Abadar if Abadar is willing to take a chance on him! He just. Maybe does not know what he's doing yet. 

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"Whatever he's having" is not really a standard spell list order but Abadar can help him out with respect to that situation he's thinking about. He might want Virtue and Guidance and Stabilize. And he has room for two Remove Sickness, and... between Bless and Floating Disk, Floating Disk is marginally less irrelevant, perhaps.

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!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Joshel is so grateful to have the opportunity to work with Abadar and...will definitely be needing to go beg Blai to help him figure out what exactly Abadar just gave him. ...He might need to spend a while in the stable with his Companion absorbing it first, though, this is a huge deal and he just needs to emotionally take it in a bit before he tries to go argue his way past the Healers. 

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Dara is of course doing her best to also carry out the order she gave the others! 

...It was difficult to pick a favorite god, none of them leapt out at her and this is possibly just because Dara isn't enthralled by the idea of belonging to any specific god, actually? She's not even enthralled about it for Iomedae if Iomedae hypothetically had anything to spare. 

 

She'll do...Cayden Cailean, she decides, He seems like the most likely to be...laid back and not too bossy? And is the god of parties, according to Seldan's somewhat patchy summary of the different gods' traits. Dara can see that being a god she would get along with. She's still not sure how to actually do the praying thing but she can spend a while remembering Kata'shin'a'in and wondering if all her favorite parts of it are also things that Cayden Cailean would like. 

(Dara is unfortunately Lawful Good and too far from Cayden on alignment to be compatible, even if she were otherwise aligned or directing her prayer in even slightly the right direction.) 

 

Nothing happens, which is disappointing, but then Joshel Mindspeaks her bursting with excitement and she congratulates him with just as much enthusiasm and then...has to spend a while getting the crying under control, apparently, because she's been holding herself together with string and willpower for so long, even once it was starting to feel like they've already lost and everything is doomed, and...hope, it turns out, unwinds a knot inside her that was holding all the tears. 

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Kilchas had an obvious favorite god on the list. Desna likes stars!!! That's because She is objectively correct. Kilchas can so very easily fill a candlemark thinking about the stars, and everything he knows about astronomy, and how it's so much better than anything else that's happened in the last year, and how he wishes he could see for himself what's out there someday, or at least know. How Leareth probably knew things about the stars that he'll never have a chance to ask him about now. 

 

(Kilchas, unfortunately, is also LG and too many alignment steps away.) 

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...Savil isn't sure any of the gods on the list would like a crusty old woman like her.

She'll try praying to Sarenrae anyway, since Iomedae isn't an option. It's probably good for her, to spend a candlemark thinking about how everyone deserves a chance at redemption, even if it doesn't come naturally to her at all - especially because it doesn't come naturally, really, she's had too much anger and bitterness in her lately. 

She starts crying about ten minutes in, which is mortifying because she's doing this in the stables with Kellan and what if someone sees her. Maybe being pissed off was better, actually. 

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Treven thought that Erastil sounded oddly charming for a god, and will diligently attempt to pray to the god of farming, even though probably the god of farming would prefer an actual farmer to someone in line for the throne of a kingdom, even though Treven didn't really ask for that and, in recent weeks and months, has occasionally fantasized - not about running away from it, obviously he can't do that - but about it somehow miraculously becoming the case that it's on someone else instead. 

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...Tantras tries for Abadar too, even though he really doubts he's clever enough for a god of something like banks. He doesn't think he can manage to have any forgiveness in his heart in order to properly pray to Sarenrae. He's not really in the mood to pray at all, really, he's in the mood to go set Vkandis on fire, but Dara ordered it so he's trying. 

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...It's doubly disappointing that Jisa can't just aim for Iomedae, who's awesome, both because Iomedae is broke and she's supposedly Chaotic. 

Well. Desna is Chaotic Good, according to Seldan relaying Blai's notes. Stars are pretty cool and Desna likes travel too, apparently, and Jisa loooooved all of her earlier travel experiences - look, Desna! she got to go soooo far from home to train as a White Winds mage! ...It's taking a lot of effort to make it a genuine earnest prayer and not just "well, if I can't have Iomedae you're fine I guess", and Jisa is definitely worried that that's kind of insulting to gods. Cayden the formerly mortal god might mind less but, uh, she does not feel like it would be cool to be a cleric of the god of parties. Ugh.

She wants to be a cleric of Leareth's god, which would have been awesome, but it's never going to exist now because Leareth is dead and they have no way of resurrecting him without a Gate to Golarion that he hadn't solved yet 

Maybe she actually wants to be the cleric of the god she creates once she figures out how Leareth was planning to do it

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Shelyn is the god of love, apparently. Love and art, which is slightly random, but - 

 

 

- Randi tries to imagine a world where love is so powerful that there's a god of it. Where love is more than just something you try to find in the cracks and corners as the world crushes you slowly between duty and inevitable disaster. More than just something that means your death will break the one person who matters most to you in the world and there's nothing you can to do to stop it. ...More than someone he cares about deeply spending half his life crushed between duty and inevitable disaster and also broken. And then it happened again and there was nothing, absolutely nothing, that Randi could do to stop that either. Being King is supposed to mean you have power, but from Randi's perspective it mostly just means that he's spent his whole life under a moral obligation to keep crushing everyone he loves under duty, knowing that in the end it might not even matter. 

There are so many people in his life who love each other and are loved and it's not enough and - gods, it's bizarre to think of Van's whole...thing...with Leareth as "love" but that's not completely wrong, not really any more wrong than saying that Randi loves Vanyel, there was real friendship there – can you imagine, Shelyn, someone with so much capacity to care about other people that he found it in himself to care about his destined enemy who was going to invade his kingdom – and it feels like, for once, that actually came so close to being enough to avert a war - and then it wasn't, and he can't begin to imagine how Vanyel must feel right now. 

Oh, Shelyn. Maybe in a better world...he can't, actually, imagine that world, but maybe Shelyn can, if She's the god of it... 

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Shavri had half intended to make her own prayer to...Someone, she hadn't actually had a chance to really think about the gods on the list...but, in the event, she spends the entire candlemark after dawn frantically trying to keep Nayoki from fucking dying on her, so she's not going to do that. 

...She does prod everyone else awake who can still be woken. Maybe they should try. 

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....Nope, his Herald is already a cleric, it might be one thing if Iomedae had cleric-juice to spare but it might put his Herald in a really awkward position if Seldan belonged to a different god who didn't quite want the same things as Iomedae.

Also Seldan suspects that most gods would find him obnoxious, and they wouldn't be wrong. He's really not very good at taking orders; he's pretty sure he used to drive his superiors to distraction, back when he was human, and he's not sure if he ever resolved that beyond ending up with enough seniority that it rarely applied. 

He'll just keep being here for Blai to lean on. He's still glad, in spite of everything, that he's here with his Herald. 

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Mrrghhhhwhat no go away Stef was sleeping. 

...not dying is also good. Stef would like to not die. 

 

He's really not thinking of any gods he would get along with, though. Except for the god of crime that briefly came up once. But probably he shouldn't try to pray to the god of crime, for multiple reasons including that god being evil and also giving him worse magic. 

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Vanyel...may or may not have been too bleary to understand the one-line Mindspeech aside from Shavri about praying. He's certainly not thinking about praying to be made a cleric of any of the gods on the list; if he were, it would be more salient that he's in no shape for any god to want him. He's a stupid pick; he's probably going to die in the next day or two, since there's no way of getting to Golarion – after he got Leareth killed, which is obviously because he sucks at everything and has terrible judgement and could only mess things up for any god that wanted to work through him – and at this point, despite all his best efforts to resist it, Vanyel can only see that as a relief. 

(On top of everything else wrong, Vanyel's mood has never benefited from low blood sugar and considerable physical pain, and he's not thinking clearly enough to fight the despair looping.) 

 

 

...He can pray in general, though. To some hypothetical god out there who might actually care about all the people dying in Iftel right now, because he's pretty sure the Shadowgod - if They were ever in any sense really an ally - doesn't. Someone might care about the souls of the people who died in k'Treva. Someone, out there, might care about Brightstar, who - isn't okay, and deserved better than his Goddess, and deserves better than Vanyel, who can't take care of any of the people he cares about. 

Maybe there's even a god out there who cares about Leareth. There...are of course all the obvious reasons why they desperately needed Leareth alive, but...Vanyel somehow hadn't, really, thought through the way that it would hurt. Not in the bottomless-pit way that losing Yfandes hurts, but - almost in a more real and human way than that. In some sense it's hard to grieve for Yfandes, the person, who was a Herald once and who liked math and swimming, because that's drowned out by the absence-of-Yfandes as its own entity, the sucking screaming emptiness that's more about Vanyel than about her. 

But Leareth was a person, and he - mattered to Vanyel - and he's gone. And - maybe - Vanyel can't actually think about it properly, when he's convinced on a deep emotional level that nothing will go right ever again - but maybe they can fix it. Someday. If Leareth's soul is safe. If somehow, some way, someone finds a way to get a Gate to Golarion. It's clearly not going to be Vanyel because he's useless now and is going to die soon, but someone, and - 

 

- just, if there's Someone out there, who can - look out for Leareth's soul - make sure Vkandis doesn't eat it or something - can They try? 

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Shelyn loves you, little soul <3

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Vanyel is very tired and very confused and it would be nice if someone would explain to him in small words like he's six what's supposed to be happening right now. It seems like a nice thing, he's not pulling away from it, it's just...he doesn't understand. 

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How about he just snuggles with his lifebonded over there and... thinks about music. He isn't up to playing any right now but he can think about it.

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....Mm. Okay. It is good that Stef is here, and now he's thinking about that and thus slightly less about how LEARETH IS DEAD AND EVERYTHING IS PERMANENTLY DOOMED AND IT'S HIS FAULT, which is...probably...not true...? Vanyel is still deeply confused about...what even...but the whatever-it-is is very soothing.

He'll try to think about music even though it's sort of deeply unclear to him why that would help with anything; it's apparently just kind of instinctive to do what he's told even if he doesn't at all understand who or what is doing the telling. 

He might be feeling very slightly better? It's hard to tell because he was paying more attention to the GAPING LACK OF YFANDES than his literal physical headache, but maybe the headache isn't quite so bad all of a sudden? 

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The Healer assigned to sit with Vanyel right now is also pretty confused! She didn't do anything, and Shavri hadn't told Blai to do anything - it looks like Blai isn't ready to do the spells, Shavri said to expect it to take a candlemark of prayer - but Vanyel's life-force is definitely just a bit brighter, now, she really doesn't think she can possibly be imagining it. 

 

:...Um, Shavri, can you - I know you're busy - can you just come look at this really fast?: 

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What the fuck is it this time. 

 

Shavri is NOT IN THE MOOD for any more things but it doesn't matter what she's in the mood for, does it. She'll slip over for ten seconds to look at Vanyel– oh, that's not an emergency, why in the world did the junior Healer interrupt her if it's not an– ohhhhhh

There is one obvious reason for Vanyel to abruptly have more life-force than he has any right to have. It's the same reason Blai does. 

 

:Van. Hey. If you just got picked by a god then you need to ask for spells. Ask for ones that do healing. Lesser Restoration if you can get it, Remove Sickness if you can only get the first-circle spells. Okay? Can you do that for me?: 

Shavri has no more time or energy to either coax Vanyel along or worry about it. Back across the room to Nayoki. 

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What. 

 

 

No, that can't be right. Vanyel wasn't even looking for that. He doesn't even know what god this is! He's objectively a really useless person for any god to pick, right? Because he's dying? 

He can't bring himself to pull away from the soothing presence, though, even if he knows he should tell it to pick Shavri instead, Shavri is so much more reasonable and deserves it. 

 

 

...is it still there? Vanyel is kind of reaching out for the presence despite himself. It's so comforting. 

Fine. If whichever god this is is really sure that they're not going to regret this decision, Shavri told him to ask for healing spells???

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Like he wants to prepare Cures? Because he can but it's a little silly.

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Aaaaaaaaaaaah apparently he's doing something dumb and wrong! This is so mortifying.

Vanyel...thinks...Shavri might have told him to ask for something specific and it wasn't Cures, but she told him, like, five or six sentences in a row, that's not even fair, how did she expect him to keep track of all of it when she'd just startled him and then ran off. Aaaaaaah. What if the god realizes now that he's dumb and useless because he's dying and leaves, that would be awful!

....Can he just sort of - think about the problem they have? And get whatever isn't silly? If that's really not how you're supposed to do it or is too expensive or something he can probably manage to get someone's attention and ask but that sounds really hard, and also probably the reason Shavri ran off like that is because someone else is dying even more than he is. 

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He might want some of these and maybe this and that too.

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Okay. 

 

 

 

....Thank you. Vanyel did not mean to come off as ungrateful. He was just - surprised. And he feels really terrible right now and so was being awkward about it. But he's very, very grateful, and he'll...try to do the best he can to help the god get more of what They want, really... it would help if he had any idea which god but it's too awkward to ask now

He vaguely remembers that Blai needs to pray for a full hour so he's...going to try to stay awake and do that. Maybe thinking about music and snuggling Stef counts? The god seemed to approve of that? 

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Yes, that will do <3

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Karis is, of course, not fully up to speed on the Heralds' recent planning. She hasn't been invited to any meetings lately. The only person who's actually come to talk to her in the last day, to...explain the situation...is Jisa, of all people, who came in with a look in her eyes that Karis only ever remembers seeing in the eyes of soldiers coming off a year on the front. 

Jisa was light on detail, but she covered the important parts. Leareth is - dead, after some kind of impossibly powerful attack that hit his heavily-shielded underground camp. Vanyel got out, along with Blai, but both are badly injured and Vanyel might not survive.

Iftel is– the barrier is gone, and the entire perimeter of the border is on fire, and Vkandis may not have made a proclamation taking credit for Leareth's death, but it's not hard to piece together, is it. 

 

 

Karis has prayed every morning since she was a child, of course. More seriously, since her Sunlord laid a miracle on the scales to take back her kingdom from the corrupt priesthood. She thought there was no limit to what she owed Him, but–

Blai was right. There is a limit.

This was past it. 

 

 

It's...lonely. Not having a god to belong to. She misses being able to pray to Someone who she knew was listening, even if Vkandis (almost) never gave any indication of it to her directly. 

It's - the feeling of helplessness, knowing that thousands of people must already be dead - there are towns on the border! - and, most likely, tens of thousands more will die, and she can't even pray to Vkandis about it because Vkandis. Is responsible. 

 

Vanyel...would say that it's been true all along, that Vkandis was the sort of being and could and would do this, and that it's better to know. Karis...isn't sure. There are men who would never kill, until the right - or wrong - circumstances arose. Are gods like that? If not for the other world, would Vkandis ever have crossed the line in her mind? (Some stupid part of her almost wishes she could go ask Vkandis if He's - okay. It's - if a human king, if Randale, did something like this, to his own country, it would be horrifying, but - that would be a question that came to mind.)

...Maybe. Wanting to kill Leareth wasn't just about the other world. Maybe Vkandis was always willing to go this far, and it's just that without the other world, without Blai, sending the gryphons would have been far enough. 

It's easy for Vanyel to say, who isn't - giving anything up. Who never believed he had a god on his side. 

 

...Leareth, Karis thinks, must have felt this way every day of his life. Not the...bereftness, necessarily, not the betrayal, however unfair because it's not as though Vkandis ever represented to her that He wouldn't burn down a country that is, after all, His, if it would achieve something He wanted...

...but the aloneness, and the helplessness. Leareth always knew there was no safe harbor for his soul if he ever died. 

He must have been so scared, if he had time to realize he was dying, and it doesn't sound like it was instantaneous. It sounds like it was an ugly death, one she would never wish on her worst enemy, and - Leareth, in the end, was never that. 

 

Karis' thoughts are going in circles. Stupid, pointless, it won't accomplish anything now, to be up on habit, staring at where the rising sun would be if the sky were clear, her mind going automatically toward prayer and then dwelling on how she has no god to pray to. Dwelling on how even when she thought she did, Vkandis was never the kind of god who would have tried to set this right. Dwelling on how she wishes she could put it right, and she doesn't see how. Her power was never hers in her own right, and it - feels like a lie, now, to even try to claim command over Karse

...She doesn't want to give up. She has a daughter, for one, and Arven deserves a better world than this one. Vanyel wouldn't give up, no matter how bereft and betrayed and alone and helpless he felt. Leareth wouldn't give up, obviously, and - someone needs to carry that for him, even if it's something no one else in the world can carry, Karis feels like it's...a little bit her burden, a little bit her duty, for whatever role she unknowingly played in - making Vkandis stronger, so that in the end He could use His strength for this. Iftel deserved a better god. Karis made her choices, and so it's hard to say that she deserved better than the choice she made, however much she wishes it had gone differently. But the farmers and merchants who lived innocently on the border of a kingdom they thought was safe deserved better, and Karis doesn't know what to do, anymore, but Leareth wouldn't have given up just because a problem was hard. 

(Maybe Vkandis deserved better, too, than - whatever set of circumstances panicked Him into this. It really does seem like something done in a panic, even if that's a strange attitude to have toward a god, who isn't even hers anymore.) 

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Hello, precious one.

The sun still smiles on you.

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...That's not Vkandis?????? Which Karis manages to realize before she can actually carry out her first instinctive reaction, which is to scream, as if yelling for help from the guards outside her suite would do literally anything to help. What was she planning to say to them, exactly. "This god is bothering me, sir," as though Vkandis were a boorish man at a court function? 

 

Who...is that. Karis has no way of knowing what this other god is like, apart from 'apparently interested in her', which could just mean that They're looking for new followers who come at a discount, because they're lonely and helpless and desperate about no longer having a god they can trust. 

Karis...does not, actually, want to be a follower who comes at a discount. 

 

She spends several seconds completely frozen on the spot, and then...very carefully and deliberately forms, in her mind, a question. Can Whoever this is tell her anything about Themselves and Their goals and, if possible, what They want of her specifically? 

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She is the Sun that shines on everyone every morning just the same no matter what they did in the dark of the night, so long as they will open their eyes to see Her.

Karis is to take all those wishes and hopes and carry them with her, backed by magic.

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…Oh. Oh.

If this is a god from Blai’s world with magic to grant her, then - she can save people. She could ask for a Gate to Iftel and go and save people like Blai saved her daughter.

Also, Blai’s world has a lot of gods! That did not sound very much like “I expect you and all of your descendants to worship Me with pain” or whatever it was the Nidal god did, but Karis can’t assume that there aren’t all sorts of gods who wouldn’t meet the standards Karis has just discovered within herself and can no longer unsee. Even if the presence feels warm and wonderful. Vkandis’ presence felt good as well, and that meant nothing in the end.

 

 

 

- she’s grateful for the magic. She hopes she can serve this god well and will do her best. (One of the ways she may turn out not to be able to serve this god well is if she asks Blai and “Sun god” is adequately identifying and the god in question doesn’t meet the standard she apparently has. But - she’ll worry about that when she comes to it. She should talk to Blai anyway, because even if this is a perfectly wonderful god to serve, Karis knows nothing about Their church has no idea what she’s doing.)

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It is soooooo easy to pray for Remove Sickness and Lesser Restoration when you have the condition those are intended to treat and it feels like this.

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No one dies during that candlemark.

Tran does interrupt her with Mindspeech, which briefly fills Shavri with an intense desire to commit murder, but it’s only to inform her than Joshel apparently managed to be picked as a cleric of Abadar.

 Shavri has no emotions about this, but she quietly recalculates the new maximum frequency of channels she has available. Six has got to be enough even if the Lesser Restorations don’t help quite as much as she hopes.

She has Nayoki’s cot moved so Blai can reach out for the Lesser Restoration without needing to be helped up, as soon as Seldan lets her know that his prayers are complete.

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Seldan is feeling less awful than he would expect, actually! Still, to be clear, awful, but not as much worse than last night as he was expecting. 

He’s here with Blai - he really likes watching his Herald's mind in prayer to Iomedae, it's fascinating, though perhaps a bit less contentful today - and ready to tell Shavri as soon as Blai is ready. 

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The Lesser Restorations first? Nayoki first? Very well. Iomedae is a goddess of triage and the Healer's an expert and didn't get cooked by Exploding Polity Syndrome. "Lesser Restoration."

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Shavri realllllly wanted to get that one handled before having any substantive conversation with Blai so she can let go of this bloody Healing-link, she has the worst reaction-headache of her entire life and has been needing to baby Nayoki along personally for the last twenty minutes because nobody else was managing to get a good link to her after Katten sneezed and lost his. 

She's happy to get Blai's input on the rest before proceeding, though. 

:I think at least Van and Stef need Lesser Restorations before they can get the full benefit of a channel, and I think the channel shouldn’t wait, Nayoki is in a bad way. You and Seldan may be better off waiting longer, you both have more of the - capacity to to hold life-force - and it is dropping, which the Lesser Restorations help with, but it’s not dire. …Oh, I did want to say, in case it’s important, that we think Joshel is a cleric of Abadar now and Van is a cleric of…Someone, he didn’t say and I’m not sure who he was trying for. So we should have another four channels, if I’m right that new clerics still start with two. I don’t know if they’re - interchangeable? Or if a stronger cleric like you can do them better.:

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:They will probably have more than me. Three is average. They'll be weaker than mine though.: Did that constitute an instruction to channel now or an instruction to Lesser Restore Vanyel and Stef now, does "shouldn't wait" mean "shouldn't wait twelve seconds" -

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Oh no she was probably unclear to the foggy-headed nauseous person. In fairness Shavri has now been awake for well over 24 candlemarks and she has a headache too.

:Lesser Restoration on Van and Stef before a channel, which shouldn’t wait more than five minutes, but we can discuss whose channel to use.: While she has the trainees help move Nayoki back and being Vanyel and Stef over. :My guess is that everyone except you and Seldan benefits plenty even from a weak one. If you’re - having trouble thinking - it might be worth the Lesser Restoration now, or Remove Sickness if the nausea is the worst part. Since we do want your advice if possible on making the best use of the new clerics.:

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Blai Lesser Restores Vanyel and then Stef. :Did the new clerics also get Remove Sickness, is there going to be enough to go around for everyone to eat today?: At this juncture he notices some people missing. He presumes them dead though of course Shavri can correct him if they are not.

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:I told Vanyel to ask for it but I’m not sure if he was in any condition to request spells, or - what happens if you don’t - the channels seem to fill up more automatically so I’m more confident he has those. I don’t know if Joshel had any instructions for what to ask for. Is there a way to confirm how many channels someone has other than - running out?:

Shavri’s mindvoice is very flat. She’s going to go on awkwardly not acknowledging the dead people because she…just can’t.

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:I don't think so, though you can guess by how Splendid someone seems, it goes by Splendor though most cleric magic runs on Wisdom instead.: He will go on presuming them dead. Three of five Lesser Restorations down, two in pocket.

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Shavri isn't really following what 'Splendid' is but it does sound like something that Vanyel could have a lot more of than Blai. 

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…Vanyel is abruptly more aware of his surroundings. He tries to sit up, decides better, and rolls over toward Blai instead.

 

:I, um, I'm pretty sure I have spells related to healing and they're - not Cure spells, I tried to ask for healing magic and apparently the god thought that was silly.: Vanyel is STILL MORTIFIED about that interaction. :I don't know what they are. Is there a way to, uh, ch...eck? I also don't know who the god is. They seem to approve of music and, um. Snuggling.: 

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:...Shelyn,: Blai ventures. :Neutral Good goddess of love and art. The way to check would be trying to cast from a symbol of a - colorful bird, looks like so - and you can turn any spell except a domain spell into a Cure spell on the spot, because you and your goddess are Good:

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...Shavri can Mindspeak someone outside the room right now to make up something for Vanyel that looks like this colorful bird in Blai's thoughts. Since apparently that's important to cast spells. She hadn't really followed before what the relevance of Blai's sword-sun necklace thing was. Oh, while she's at it, someone needs to find out for her immediately if Joshel asked for specific spells and if so what they were.

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Vanyel rubs his eyes. :What's a domain spell? Am I supposed to be able to tell which of my spells is which by how they feel - I, er, I think I can feel that I have some stronger and some weaker...? Um. What...else...does Shelyn want Her clerics to - do, or be like, or -?: 

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:You'll have orisons, or zeroth-circle spells, and also first circle spells. Gods have - spell lists from one to nine, that are loosely on theme with their areas of concern, and grant minor powers accompanying each. A cleric has two domains, and if you can prepare spells of a given circle then you can get one from one of your two lists. It'll be the one that you can't drop for a Cure, if you can feel that:

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Poke poke. 

 

:...I think I can feel that. I - think I can tell that one doesn't feel Healing-y, and the other does? Hopefully it's Remove Sickness, I think Shelyn was - trying to be helpful, but if it's healing-y I should maybe just cast it and hope that it's something else helpful if it's not that.: Pause. :I have two of the bigger ones - the first circle? - and three of the small ones, which - I can't tell from the feel what they do, but those can be used an unlimited amount, right? So I can cast them to find out?: 

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:Yes. As for what She wants of you, I... have not met a lot of Shelynites, they do not tend martial in a way that would have them appearing in large numbers at the Worldwound. I assume She likes Her clerics... loving and artistic:

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....Well. That's - probably more in line with Vanyel's natural strengths as a person. It definitely sounds incredibly tempting

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Shavri has an update! There might even be a flicker of emotion visible as she conveys it. 

:Joshel apparently has Virtue and Guidance and Stabilize and two Remove Sickness and a...Floating Disk...? Can he turn that one into a Cure, or no because Abadar is Neutral not Good?: It sounds incredibly useful from her perspective. :Also - Karis? Thinks she was picked as a cleric by Someone? She wants to talk to you urgently, Blai, she doesn't know what god or what They're like and is - feeling a bit spooked right now about following gods that turn out to be terrible.: 

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:The floating disk will be a domain spell, clerics don't get it normally, so he will not be able to trade it in. Abadaran clerics can channel positive, which goes with turning spells into Cures, but if he's not sure that he is himself Good and does not remember deciding to channel positive - Neutral clerics of Neutral gods can decide, when first empowered - he might want to test a spontaneous cure on an animal to be certain, it will cost one of his Remove Sickness but his will only last about ten minutes: It's like trying to pass a seminary exam the morning after the thing with all the joints in his body, but hey, he did that when it came up. :Virtue is a good idea, I hadn't thought of it but for this kind of progressive damage we might just want him in here casting it on all of us constantly. Of course I can speak to Karis:

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...Oh if Remove Sickness only lasts ten minutes for new clerics that's less useful, though it's not nothing, it would let them space it out throughout the day, not to mention actually covering everyone. :I'll have him and Karis come over and we can find out what Karis has.: 

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Seldan thinks that someone should offer Blai some painblocking already, Blai will literally never complain but they're asking him to answer important questions in a high stakes situation while in bad shape, it's not at all unreasonable. That line of thought is visible to Blai but Seldan is not asking Blai for permission, he's just going to poke one of the senior Healers outside the room who's coming on-shift. He thinks it's also a good idea for Blai to use a Remove Sickness for the conversation - they'll need Mindspeech translation anyway, Blai can eat and think at them at the same time. 

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...They haven't actually had anyone do a channel yet and it wasn't urgent on the scale of seconds but Shavri is getting antsy. Should they have Vanyel attempt it? 

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Vanyel is definitely Good because Blai checked the other day so it's definitely safe even if Blai is somehow wrong about it being Shelyn, yeah. He does not object particularly to Seldan doing this very Seldan thing. It is good when Seldan does Seldan things even if they are things on Blai's behalf that as Seldan correctly surmised Blai would never do. Blai's Remove Sickness should stick for nearly an hour but while that's enough to digest some food it is not enough that he doesn't want to wait to cast it till there is food literally right in front of him and a spoon in his non-casting hand, so as to eke out the maximum nourishment from whatever he can get and keep down.

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Seldan can harass some more trainees in the hallway to make that happen. ...Does Blai think he can feed himself without this being tiring? He seems significantly better off on retaining the ability to move his limbs than either Vanyel or Stef, and Seldan realizes that having a Healing-trainee spoon-feed you is undignified and unfun, but if turns out eating is tiring then Blai should simply not be doing any things that are tiring unless they're critical to the strategic situation. 

 

 

...Seldan miiiight be getting an actual Foresight/blue place poke about the importance of the situation? In particular the - talking to Karis and to Joshel about their new cleric status - for whatever reason Vanyel doesn't feel as delicate, but it seems like this is - it makes sense that those gods are going to make a first impression in Velgarth based solely on Their new clerics, who know very little about the gods that just chose them or about Their churches. And it seems important for that to go well, not just for the immediate emergency but much longer term than that? And Seldan suspects that, in addition to this being pretty damn self-evident, Someone is also making sure he's paying attention? 

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Oh boy. Blai knows very slightly more about... some possible gods, they don't know who Karis has... and lots more about Abadar, which might be a reason for Vanyel to not as urgently need his extremely limited Shelyn-related advice?? He... thinks he can probably feed himself once he's done the Remove Sickness, he's been up and fighting on less remaining blood than this, but is open to being corrected about this once he's tried it.

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That makes sense. Seldan will be paying attention to whether he can notice it being effortful in a way that Blai has (for obvious reasons! Seldan isn't judging here!) learned to tune out and consider irrelevant. It might be fine, Blai was a lot physically stronger to begin with so it would take more deterioration for him to reach the point that he can't easily lift his arms. 

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...A trainee has just ducked in and handed Vanyel a rather makeshift attempt at a colorful bird, mostly made of paper twists with some string to help the whole thing stay together. It looks very fragile and also, just, like a fourteen-year-old made it in less than five minutes, which is probably what just happened. Vanyel feels like a more...artistic...bird would be better? Maybe this is another case where Lady Treesa and her beading and needlepoint could be surprisingly useful. It would make her so happy and Vanyel...is feeling like he maybe owes it to his parents, who love him, to - like, interact, at all. It would make them happy, and Shelyn is probably approving about family love too? 



All right. Vanyel will attempt this. He...thinks it's this mental motion? Here goes!

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Nayoki is now properly awake again so that definitely did something!

 

(It's indeed weaker than Blai's channels and won't get Blai or Seldan anywhere close to "full health" such as that is right now, but Stef and Van and Nayoki are maxed out.) 

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:Congratulations, Songbird:

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Awwwwww wait is that literally his title now. Well. It beats Demonsbane, that's for sure. 

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A trainee arrives with a meal tray for Blai. It's not a meal that would be particularly exciting for a healthy person; Shavri was thinking ahead during the night, and asked Gemma to sort out something as densely nutritious and easily digestible as possible for a patient with damage to their stomach and gut lining that's inevitably going to affect digestion - she doubts the Remove Sickness spell will actually fix that - and who's fairly likely to lose everything still in their stomach at some point after the spell wears off. Thyey also wanted it to be soft, and definitely not acidic like many fruit are. Everyone is likely to be developing painful mouth sores as the mucous membranes start to break down, and they have enough Healers with the painblocking trick to give everyone painblocking while they're eating, but not all day; better to avoid making the problem worse.

Blai will get oat porridge, nice and overcooked until it's basically a liquid, with broth rather than water, with just the whites of a few eggs disguised in it for the extra protein, mixed with plenty of cream and honey and cooled to just-barely-lukewarm, ready when he wants it. 

Gemma will come painblock herself. She's had, like, an entire five candlemarks of sleep, and she's the best at it second to Shavri. She might as well start now, even though whoever needs to talk to Blai about whatever it is hasn't arrived yet. 

 

(Painblocking is pretty impressive, at least when Gemma's doing it. It doesn't affect Blai's ability to feel his body in general - and some of the physical sensations are still unpleasant, or the heaviness in his limbs, or the feeling of being the wrong temperature, or the weird lingering pressure of a headache, or the pervasive nonspecific feeling of something being terribly wrong - but the part where it hurts is just...gone. It doesn't directly affect the nausea but even some of that was apparently secretly stomach pain.) 

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Oh. That's nice. Seldan likes that better. (It's not even being done on him, but still.) 

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Blai has a good pain tolerance but he still appreciates it! :Thank you: "Remove Sickness." Ohhhh that's better. Porridge in face.

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And there's lots of honey-sweetened ginger tea to go with it, even without all the extra salt this time since the porridge has that covered. 

Shavri's self-assigned task for the next candlemark is to convince Blai's digestive system to DIGEST ALL THIS FOOD PLEASE NO SERIOUSLY THAT'S YOUR ENTIRE JOB. 

(Gemma Mindtouches her to ask if she's had any sleep. Shavri suppresses the instinctive desire to COMMIT MURDER about the interruption, and tells Gemma that she's fine. She's figured out a lot of tricks for getting better Sight-detail on this particular kind of damage and routing around it - the creepy trick to get Healing-Sight up on a DEAD BODY is honestly pretty useful to have as an alternate angle on living people, at least if particular organs of theirs are messed up enough - and she's not sure she can teach it to anyone else. She can rest once everyone's been able to eat; she can take more of the stimulant if she needs to, though for now the dose late last night seems to still be holding her.) 

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Joshel arrives! 

He has a holy symbol, because he asked if he needed to bring anything and for whatever reason he was expecting it might be, like, treatises? On banking?? But Seldan very helpfully informed him that clerics need a "holy symbol" and Blai's memories of Abadarans have them with keys. That's...weird...but Joshel has keys on him at all times and a couple of them are even ornate and fancy-looking. He picks the key to the room where he keeps all the ledger books, just in case that's particularly Abadar-appropriate or something.

He's excited and nervous and oh dear gods everyone here looks sick. Aaaaah. Are they sure Blai is up for talking to him? 

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Yep. It's important, and Blai is fully qualified to rise to the occasion for anything really important even if he's dying (and he's substantially less dying than he was a candlemark ago, yay.)

 

Seldan is here for Mindspeech translation! It's less necessary here since Joshel is also a Mindspeaker, but Seldan is also feeling better after the Lesser Restoration and channel, and he's up for doing some amount of digging-in-Blai's-memories to make this go faster and be less tiring for his Herald. 

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Right. 

 

So Joshel does know what god picked him and what spells he got, which is apparently more than some people, but he's not sure which of the spells is which? And is kind of scared he'll fumble actually casting them, it's not like he's mage-gifted. 

Also there aren't any temples of Abadar here! Is Abadar going to want Joshel to found one? Joshel is incredibly honored to be selected by Abadar and he wants Abadar to be getting everything He paid for with that and he's scared that he's going to screw it up? 

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Blai can demo the gestures for everything except Floating Disk, which he doesn't know since he doesn't get it as one of his domain spells. If that doesn't work then Joshel can probably just safely try them. Does he know the relevant cautions about how some Abadarans channel negative? Joshel will only do this if one of a) Joshel himself is evil or b) Joshel is Neutral, but decided, perhaps while not really paying close attention, to channel negative, but it's a possibility on the table. Casting should be instinctive.

Abadar has temples in Golarion cities but they also operate as banks and insurance offices. If Joshel doesn't want to give sermons and doesn't even have a copy of the Abadaran holy books, operating a bank that is not very temple-y should be fine, as far as Blai knows. If there's only one of him, even that might not be necessary; Abadaran clerics are allowed to go adventuring or go into unrelated businesses or whatever as long as they're promoting and enjoying gains from trade. Uh, Joshel might be religiously required to charge for his spells but Blai has no idea of the market clearing rate and he's not sure if there are exceptions, like, maybe the Heralds count as having him on retainer sufficiently for that to be good enough?

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Huh! ...The Heralds, particularly in terms of things like their relationship to the Healers' Collegium, really don't operate internally on a market basis, so it's hard to figure out who even ought to pay him for healing in this particular situation, even if it feels like in principle it would be sensible to have processes for that, just to keep track of internal resource allocation, and it wouldn't be that complicated in principle for the Healers to charge the Heralds and vice versa for various services, but in practice he suspects no one will go for it because no one at Healers wants to do the ledger-keeping. ...Probably Leareth's org is set up to be able to pay him, and Joshel is not already employed by them, but Joshel isn't sure if it's un-Abadaran to charge them for it just because it's less weird and complicated when Nayoki is only one of five patients here. And also Blai has a good point that Joshel doesn't know what the spells should be worth in Valdemaran coin, which has got to be a different answer than it would be in Blai's world. - On reflection it all just seems very messy and he's inclined to ignore the problem and just heal his colleagues, sorry Abadar. Maybe he can try to...do an auction, or something...for the Floating Disk, since he can't use it for healing, but honestly that sounds like way too much hassle to set up today, and less valuable to the Heralds than Joshel just spending his entire day here casting the spell that his Companion reports, via Seldan, might be helpful for the progressive damage. 

 

...Joshel doesn't want to give sermons per se, but if it would be Abadaran to go give lectures at the Collegium for un-Gifted students about topics related to banks and trade - and to insurance to the extent he personally knows things about it - he's kind of always wanted to do that? It seems like none of the students in Blues find it inspiring as something to train in, but he always felt like at least some of them should

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Abadarans are definitely allowed to give lectures for free, at any rate, that's why Blai knows things about Abadaranism is that he would listen to Fiducia Boian explain stuff every time he came by #11. It's... probably okay at least for now to not figure out how to charge for his spellcasting if it would be that complicated and ill-timed, because Abadar can probably see that and would have accounted for it, but if he does come up with something that isn't too riddled with transaction costs to implement it might behoove him to do so. Blai doesn't immediately think it seems un-Abadaran to charge Nayoki and not fellow members of the organization that has Joshel on retainer, but it might have to be for that reason and not for the awkwardness reason? It's probably okay to not use the Floating Disk. If he doesn't cast it he can just leave it there tomorrow and it will probably be that little bit less pricey for Abadar to fill up his slots if some are leftovers.

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How long does will the Floating Disk last? And does he need to follow it around personally to direct it, and is he likely to be unskilled at this the first time he tries? Maybe he can find something the Healers need hauled around, rather than invite Shavri's wrath by disappearing off-site to sell it to a merchant transporting their goods. 

(Shavri is kind of scary this morning. Joshel does not want to invite her wrath.) 

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Probably an hour, and he needs to personally lead it but it does not so far as Blai understands it have a particularly great skill component, it should float along quite evenly after him wherever he goes.

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Joshel should be delegating figuring all of that out to his Companion! That's what they're for!

...Seldan also has lots of ideas but he should probably not take this on, especially if it involves a lot of Mindspeaking people not in the room to figure out what's going on with various logistics in Haven. But, like, plausibly at some point there will be a Gate to the Iftel border, even if the Heralds don't manage to negotiate crossing into Iftel to help there are still a bunch of Valdemaran border towns in serious trouble that will need relief supplies, and if a Floating Disk can support more weight than a person can carry while not taking up more room than a person, that means a smaller or shorter-duration Gate which is less tiring for the mage - that's not obviously the most valuable way to use it but it's what came to Seldan's mind first - 

- he's going to go harass Joshel's Companion, who's waiting just outside the building, to make herself useful already, and then save his Mindspeech. 

 

For what it's worth, Seldan also thinks it would be pretty shocking if Joshel was anything except Lawful Good? Vanyel managed to read Good despite all the killing Karsite soldiers, and Joshel is just as much a do-gooder personality and wasn't even in a combat role, his work under King Randale's reign has been basically all allocating Valdemar's treasury-spending in ways that improved people's lives. 

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It'll hold about... less than Blai's weight but he's seen one carrying yea many books? He doesn't know the spell well. It's mostly a wizard spell.

Blai has no specific reason to doubt Joshel's goodness, it's just, like, conceptually possible, for there to be an Evil Abadaran, even if they would also have to be the kind of person you could trust with all your money.

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...Great, that's a good idea, both the specific thoughts Seldan floated but also the concept that Joshel doesn't personally have to try to figure this out right now. Joshel can make Seldan invite Shavri's wrath instead of him

Should he try casting some of his little spells to see which one is the one that might help the Healers? He has Virtue and Guidance and Stabilize but he's not sure which is which and separately has no idea which one someone thought would be good to stand here casting all day.

He does have the two Remove Sickness - Abadar was very helpful even though Joshel did not know what to ask for and tried to get "what Blai asked for" and that's apparently not the usual way one is supposed to ask for spells - anyway he's starting to see why that seems...indicated...for this situation, given that Stef is currently very clearly trying to vomit quietly and not bother them. Should he use that? 

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Virtue might be useful to cast all day so that the Virtue robustness and not the real nonmagical kind can be eaten up by the progressive damage, but it's perfectly safe to try the others while locating it, and Blai will recognize them. Guidance is this one. "Guidance." Joshel's Remove Sickness won't last very long, he will probably want to plan to chain the two of them together and maybe also tack on Vanyel's if he got them and Karis's if she did to get a reasonable food-digesting duration.

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...The thing where Golarion spells need you to say a specific word and use a specific gesture is super weird, mage-gift doesn't work like that, but given that all of them are perfectly safe and also he's been reassured that they're reusable and he won't waste them if he casts something that isn't needed at that moment, Joshel is perfectly happy to figure it out with trial-and-error and practice. 

 

This is incredible!!!!! Joshel can do MAGIC now!!! (It's been a long time since he last felt insecure about not having cooler Gifts than Mindspeech and a little bit of Farsight, but his inner twelve-year-old trainee is delighted.) 

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:That one is Stabilize:

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Perfect. Joshel should memorize that one and be ready to go cast it on a moment's notice on whoever Shavri points him at. Hopefully they won't need it, with the frequency of channels they should have available, but it could come up if a Healer fumbles badly enough, and the chances of that are only going to increase with time. 

Once Joshel's experimentation gets there: Virtue does make a test subject (Seldan, as the least likely to suffer if it disrupts the Healing link or something) have noticeably slightly more life-force for the spell duration! Which isn't very long, Joshel really would need to be running around the room casting it more or less constantly to get a real ongoing effect, but Shavri thinks that while it's up the patient won't suffer for lack of having an active Healing-link maintained constantly. Which probably means the best way to use it is to rotate, having Joshel hang out and tap a couple of people at a less frenetic pace so that they can drop to three rather than five Healers. That's going to be important by tonight, they're going to run out of anyone who's had any sleep today. Shavri doesn't need sleep, it's fine

Shavri is not at all apologetic about the fact that this is pretty repetitive and tedious. Guess what SHE'S been doing for nearly the last 24 candlemarks straight. 

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...You know what just occurred to Seldan. The Healers would almost certainly benefit from Guidance. Shavri especially. 

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And here comes Karis. 

She doesn't look excited or happy, like Joshel did. She looks...haunted, mostly. 

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Blai's happy to tap Healers with Guidance, though maybe not while he is still shoveling porridge into his mouth. :Hello: he thinks at Karis.

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(Seldan will relay out of necessity this time. At least Karis knows how to shield, a rare skill in non-Mindspeakers, so he doesn't have to use his own self-discipline to nobly refrain from reading everything in Karis' surface thoughts, because that's both unethical - unLawful, really, in Blai's terminology - and rude, but so tempting, and Seldan is worse at resisting temptation via self-discipline when he feels terrible.) 

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Karis moves with quiet dignity. (And politely ignores the fact that Blai is currently shoveling porridge into his mouth.) 

:This morning: she starts, :I was– not exactly praying. You told me before, when I said there was no limit to what I owed Vkandis, that - that made you think of the god of Nidal, from your world. ...And you were right. I did have a line, and the Sunlord - crossed it.: 

She shakes herself slightly. :...Anyway. I was - awake when I would normally pray, thinking about - having No One to pray too - and I felt a different god. It felt like -:

It's hard to put into words. Karis tries to just think the feeling of it at Seldan instead. 

 

Hello, precious one.

The sun still smiles on you.

 

She is the Sun that shines on everyone every morning just the same no matter what they did in the dark of the night, so long as they will open their eyes to see Her.

Karis is to take all those wishes and hopes and carry them with her, backed by magic.

 

:- And I know there are many gods in your world, and - it seems I have standards. So - I did not say no, to belong to this god, yet, but - I need to know who They are before I can be sure.: 

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:Oh. Sarenrae. Neutral Good, goddess of the Sun and redemption. Known to be very specifically opposed to the destruction of the universe. She... smote a city once... but she had a reason and still considers it to have been a mistake:

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Oh. 

 

...Wow. Karis has some emotions about that. Maybe kind of a lot of emotions. It's not Blai's problem, though, and she's– she'll try her very best to stay composed. She has a lot of practice. Her face is only a tiny bit screamy even by Chelish standards. 

:What do you think She wishes of me now?: Karis sends. :I cannot exactly ask Her church.: 

And of course she hopes the answer is 'help Iftel' but she shouldn't bias it toward her priorities, at least not until Blai has a chance to answer without that pressure. 

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(Seldan is of course not going to miss all of of the emotions, thanks to Mindspeech overtones, but he's capable of taking the hint that someone doesn't want their feelings all over the place, and he can carefully filter that out from Karis' response when he bounces it to Blai.) 

 

More importantly: Sarenrae! What's Sarenrae's holy symbol, they're going to need that and it might not be as easy to scrounge a pre-existing object as it was for Joshel - he pokes around in Blai's memories rather than interrupt. Oh, pretty. Seldan can bounce that as clearly as possible to the trainee previously assigned an unexpected craft project, who seems kind of irritated with him over it but at least it doesn't involve being in the room that now unavoidably smells of vomit at all times. 

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:I have somewhat sparse information because She is not that popular on my continent mostly because She is very popular in a historically rival continent's major empire; it was at the time She gave them Her patronage an unsolved problem to do that without winding up backing unproductive warfare, though I have no reason to believe She is fond of it. All things considered She does shake out to be more martially oriented than Vanyel's also-Neutral-Good Shelyn, though, albeit with the predictable enemies being, say, demons, the undead, Evil cultists, things like that. But I would be unsurprised to find Sarenrites operating... orphanages? Adventuring to protect villagers from monsters? Serving at the Worldwound, though I met only a couple and only in passing. Advising kings and lords on their redemption and that of their endangered populace. Itinerant healing. Managing charitable work with the poor. If She chose you while you were already at prayer whatever was on your mind then may be a better guide than my guesses:

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Karis looks...very faintly embarrassed, almost, as though she's worried that Blai might think what she was praying about is weird. 

 

:...I was not praying, exactly: just ruminating on how she wished she had a god to pray to, :but - I suppose I was thinking about Iftel. How their country deserved better than what happened, how they– ...they deserved a better god.:

She hesitates. :- And I was - I know this is stupid but in some sense I was worried about Vkandis. It was a very - extreme - thing to do. If King Randale did something like that to his own kingdom in a panic then I would be very worried about him.: 

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:Yes, that makes sense as the kind of thing that would appeal to a redemption goddess, I think:

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It feels very...something...to be picked out and granted magic by a redemption goddess when you, yourself, are the one who needs redeeming. But maybe it makes perfect sense. Karis knows all about - trying to do the right thing, acting with what you thought at the time was a critically important reason, making decisions with haste and without having the full picture because tomorrow might be too late. And then waking up one morning in a world where thousands of people were dead and none of it had needed to happen at all. Karis knew she would need more - leverage, than what she had, to even begin to try to set things right, and if Sarenrae is offering that, and isn't secretly evil, then - she's not going to say no, because that would be unfair to the people she can help, however much a quiet voice insists that she isn't the one who deserves it.

 

:I - need advice: she sends. :I want - if I had no constraints or commitments, I would go to Iftel. They need help more, and - I understand them, more than the Heralds do. But I am still the Queen of Karse.: Even if she hasn't been back since all of this started at the Midwinter Festival, at first because they thought the war was coming now and later because the Heralds thought it wasn't and...no longer felt they could trust her. Karis thinks there was a mistake somewhere in there and she still isn't sure what it was. 

:- I am still the Queen, but - I am not sure I have the right to it. I served on Vkandis' orders, and I am not - and the priesthood in Karse will not -: It's all coming out in fragments. Karis takes a deep breath. :...I do not know what to do.: 

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She should go to Iftel! And take it back from Vkandis on behalf of her new and much better goddess possibly that isn't an entirely Sarenrite motivation. Iftel is probably very badly going to need...something, though Seldan isn't sure if that thing is a new Queen...and Karis could do it. She's a very impressive person. But it feels very important that she not - overstep, while speaking for Sarenrae, in a different world with no existing church. It feels important to do it right and it's not like Seldan is bloody qualified to advise on how to speak for gods. 

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:I... do not know how to manage the Vkandis: what the fuck is the demonym :priesthood. I don't know what their traditional relationship to the monarchy is or whether they'll believe the news out of Iftel. It may matter if Sarenrae has picked more clerics other than you that you might want to coordinate with; so far we've only found the handful here but there could be others in less constant contact with the Heraldic apparatus. - there's a spell for that, if it's still in question tomorrow:

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:The relationship - with the priesthood and the monarchy, I mean - is complicated, but - it has historically not gone well for the monarchy when there were significant disputes.:

For one thing, the priesthood has all the mages, and while technically Karis has allies who have mages, she really doesn’t want to, what, go occupy her own kingdom with Leareth’s troops, which she’s almost certain is what would happen in practice if she asked the badly overstretched Heralds for their support.

:There is a spell for - finding other clerics? I would very much like to know if there are others.:

 

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Karis didn’t put the part about the priesthood of Karse maintaining a chokehold on all the Gifted people into words, but Seldan does know that, or at least he assumes it’s still true now - it was in his time, and it makes sense in their church, Gifts are seen as something granted by Vkandis even though Seldan is pretty sure that has nothing do with it and Gifts are inherited just like the shape of people’s noses is. And the rest is also obvious - Karis could try to hold the monarchy against the opposition of the priesthood, and it would be her right to call on her Valdemaran allies for help, at which point Randi would point out that they don’t have the mages to spare - and do have an 800-year-old precedent against conquering their neighbors, and this would be pushing it even if it could be justified as aid to an ally rather than a Valdemaran invasion - but they do have Leareth’s entire organization currently displaced from the north and not actually busy…

They probably don’t want to go there. Especially if Karse is actually doing okay as it is. 

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:Finding others of your same stripe. It's first circle, you'll be able to prepare it; it's called Find the Faithful. ...If you are, as of your last contact, on good terms with the priesthood, it might make sense to bring some of them with you on any trip to Iftel you make, rather than relying on them believing secondhand reports about the explosion:

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What a useful spell! That’s excellent advice, Karis would have had no idea. In fact she doesn’t have the faintest idea what spells she has right now, though she can feel them there waiting to be used, which is very odd.

 

:I left on good enough terms that I think that could be arranged with the right framing: she sends, thoughtful. :…I think it would not be right or fair to - not explain until we departed for Iftel, let them think I had miracles from Vkandis - even if it would make things much simpler?:

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:I don't know the Sarenrite church policy on that. I certainly would not go around representing myself as having magic from a source other than my real one, but I think of that as a Lawful feature and Sarenrae isn't Lawful. You might be, though, or might be in this respect in particular:

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Karis definitely feels spectacularly uncomfortable at the prospect, but she isn't sure if that's because she's Lawful or just because she's imagining the sheer awkwardness of it coming out after the fact. 

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...It's definitely something that could be unwise, Seldan thinks, which - honestly feels like half of why he cares about any kind of Law, he suspects, the less Lawful thing might be simpler or quicker or less frustrating today but it's very often short-sighted. Karis is the one who's been maintaining a relationship with the current priesthood for...Seldan isn't sure exactly how many years it's been since the recent war ended, but he's absorbed from ambient Companion-gossip that it must be approaching a decade...and she probably has the best instincts for what approach is most likely to salvage any trust. Which is generally worth salvaging if you can, he thinks, even if - your gods are enemies now - not that he personally has experience with that but it seems like it must be conceptually similar to your kingdoms being at war...

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:You have context on your resources and the people you're dealing with that I don't. There may not be any brilliant solution that gets the clear ideal result along all the axes that matter. But Sarenrae trusts you to handle it:

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Apparently!

Karis should really ask about the magic next, how to figure out what she has and whether they need her healing here, but - that isn't the question she finds herself asking next at all. 

:Do you think there– do you think you will find a way to reach Golarion?: They could hope for miracles from the other world, but - they've already been offered miracles, and that doesn't seem to have been included. :Jisa was not sure...: If there was any way to do it without Leareth. To get Yfandes back, and - well, apparently Leareth himself now, too, 'if whichever god has him now will give him back at all', Jisa had said...

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:I was hoping Leareth would manage it. It is still possible that when the Constitutional Convention's date arrives and I'm not there as expected, the archmage who called for it in the first place will bestir himself to wonder about my whereabouts. I don't know how likely that is:

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:…We don’t have a backup plan at this point: Seldan admits. :I would rather not just sit here waiting for rescue from another world, but - I don’t have a better plan. Yet.: They lost the critical battle and that doesn’t mean the war is over, and Seldan absolutely still intends to genuinely, actually try to think of something, but— gods, it’s tempting to keep putting it off until “when he feels better” and he shouldn’t actually be confident that will ever happen. They’re in a better situation with so many more channels available, Shavri was clearly enormously relieved, but what they really need is more Lesser Restorations - maybe if Joshel goes and gets into a lot of fights - but Seldan picked up from Blai’s memories that a newly selected cleric is expected to take years to get second-circle spells even somewhere like the Worldwound…

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The Worldwound is arranged to succeed at an operational goal over getting its individual participants circles, so someone adventuring recklessly can circle up faster, but only because a dozen other people adventuring recklessly are dead to make up the numbers.

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…Yeah. It doesn’t seem like they can afford to let any of their three first-circle clerics - that they know about so far, at least - adventure recklessly. And Joshel and Karis aren’t inclined toward that sort of thing and Vanyel is but is bedridden. If Someone had picked up Jisa though it’s a relief that didn’t happen, Seldan thinks, the last thing Jisa needs is any more powers to enable her…being herself. 

On that note, any idea how to narrow down what spells Karis got? She doesn’t even know if they’re healing-y, she was very caught off guard and didn’t even think of requesting particular “miracles” as an available action, and Sarenrae apparently handed her something anyway, with no more specific instructions than “take all those wishes and hopes and carry them with her, backed by magic.”

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Can she do either the gestures or the words alone?

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Oh is that how you make the miracle  spell happen at a specific time on purpose? (This is especially counterintuitive to Karis, who has no Gifts but has conveyed a miracle for Vkandis before, which was completely different and mostly required…getting herself out of His way.) 

 

…Oh, there might be something there? Like muscle memory, that’s so interesting given how it’s not like she trained at this, but like muscle memory it’s hard to think about and describe in the abstract? She might have to just - try it, to get the practice - but it would be pretty upsetting to waste it, she can feel that she only has a few.

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Assuming that is translated: The small ones can be caught and used again:

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Oh! Karis had no idea!

 

She’ll try a small one, then. It takes a few tries to relax into it without automatically falling into “getting herself out of the way and waiting for Sarenrae to possess her for it”, but - there! Karis thinks she did it! Did it do anything??

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:That's Resistance, it's good for helping people throw off spells or poisons or dodge things, that kind of thing. I don't know if it will apply to the present medical condition but it won't do any harm:

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Karis will happily cast it on everyone right away then! 

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Huh, that shows up a bit to Healing-Sight. …Not in a way where it’s as obviously helpful as Virtue, but that’s still interesting. 

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Is she going to try her others? As long as she didn't get Bleed or Spark all orisons are safe to try. They look like this and this gesturewise.

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...No, Karis doesn't think any of hers are those. And it does feel like hers should be - safe to try here. She'll do that. 

 

(It appears that she also has Virtue and Stabilize, though Karis will need it pointed out because she's never done any kind of magic before and, while she thinks there is some kind of feedback when she uses a spell, she's still struggling to interpret it.) 

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He can identify those for her.

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Oh that's good. Is Shavri allowed to order the Queen of Karse not to leave this room for the next twelve candlemarks. She might just do that. 

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Karis feels like she's getting a slightly better sense of this! She has two spells that feel...maybe the most like Resistance, they feel healing-y and - specific? And then one that for some reason her intuition thinks would be pointless to cast indoors, whatever that means. 

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:Does it look like -: Endure Elements gesture.

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Yes that one! What does it do? 

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Shavri is counting up Remove Sicknesses in her head. If Joshel has two and Karis' goddess was equally proactive but less informative about it and she also has two, then that's about forty minutes, which is not nearly as long as she wants, honestly an hour isn't nearly long enough and she's going to grit her teeth and subject Blai to the Healing-trick that everyone hates that blocks actually throwing up no matter how nauseous you are. It's okay, he can hate her, she's been hated by plenty of patients before, he will DIGEST HIS GODDAMNED FOOD, which is probably all he's getting before tomorrow morning, they aren't going to have any spare Remove Sicknesses after hitting everyone here exactly once. Seldan can get the short one. Since horses can't actually throw up. 

 They don't know what Vanyel has but he might be better able to answer Blai's questions about 'does it use this gesture' once he's, uh, had a Remove Sickness cast on him...

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:That's Endure Elements. Essential in extreme weather. Lasts twenty-four hours and makes both heat and cold ignorable:

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That's going to be spectacularly useful in Iftel, if she ends up going there. Seldan picked up some gossip yesterday about scrying and they're having serious weather issues, on top of the fact that they're very far north and the barrier must have been providing some sort of...climate effect...because Iftel is known for its vineyards and those are not generally a kind of agriculture that does well in the far north. 

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...as far as he knows Endure Elements does not work on plants. But it'll at least let Karis operate there, and channels work on frostbite if everything's still attached.

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Yeah, Seldan wasn't expecting it to solve their food problems - which hopefully won't be a real emergency until the next harvest would have been due, unless they had a lot of their stores on the border itself - but he's expecting that, like, Ifteli buildings aren't designed for adequate heating in those circumstances, even in the places that still have any buildings standing. A substantial chunk of Iftel is just as far north as Leareth's region was and Seldan got a lot of gossip from various people he Mindspoke there while he was under-occupied about their heating-related engineering challenges. 

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They were underground, did that not help - he's getting distracted, he's supposed to be answering questions from new clerics. Porridge is all eaten now though.

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That was indeed one of the engineering solutions, conveniently since it was also desirable for security, but Seldan has never heard of Iftel building underground– oh yes indeed they're supposed to be concentrating on a thing. It turns out Seldan is way more distractable when he's less able to quarantine the distraction to one thread of his attention and have plenty left over. 

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Karis was on a somewhat related mental tangent - on whether this is informative for what Sarenrae is expecting of her, that's a lot more helpful in Iftel than in Karse - and failed to notice any delay in Seldan relaying for her. 

 

:Can you show me gestures for healing spells that the other ones might be?: she asks. :I am not sure I can figure out the gesture to show you without actually just casting it, but I think I would recognize it like I did for Endure Elements.: 

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He can go through gestures for orisons. And for Remove Sickness since it looks like all the gods who picked people this morning were maybe on the same page about that.

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Yes it's that one! Is that good?

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That's very good! 

...It's probably getting nearish the end of Blai's current one. They should probably try to wrap up soon. 

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:It will buy someone about ten minutes without nausea:

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:It doesn't sound like much but you've got two and Joshel has two and that's forty minutes if we time it perfectly. It's important.: Thank you, Sarenrae. And Abadar. Shelyn yet to be determined, but Shavri did manage to memorize the approximate gesture, so once Vanyel is feeling (temporarily) better she can quiz him without needing to call on Blai. She doesn't want to overlap them because they're at this point really limited on painblocking and she'll want to do everyone sequentially to keep Gemma on it. 

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That (if Seldan passes it on) makes sense; the object here isn't to give everyone a less miserable day, it's to get them fed, which means concentrating the relief into continuous blocks.

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(Seldan is continuing to pass everything on except for some of his private commentary on feelings he notices people having that seem both private and like Blai shouldn't have to deal with it being shoved in his face. Shavri seems pretty not okay but she's been here an entire day and night, Seldan is a little worried that he's going to need to be the one to harass people until someone convinces her to take a break. 

...He's also getting pretty exhausted. Companion Mindspeech is supposed to be completely effortless even at ranges much greater than within the same room or occasionally down the hall, but it's - not, right now.) 

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Does Seldan get the next Remove Sickness, that might help - well, temporarily anyway -

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Companions do run a pretty high metabolism (they rarely need to fast, even if their Heralds are out of food they can eat grass, or really pretty much any plant matter that's possible to chew and not literally toxic, their digestion is better-designed than horses), and Seldan might in fact feel better once he's had some form of nutrition even if the 'not feeling sick' part doesn't last. A bit of honey dissolved in his trough of cold diluted ginger tea doesn't go very far at all for him. 

 

Seldan keeps feeling like he's forgetting something that might be important. Maybe it'll come to him if he gets to eat something and then spends some time actually resting rather than keeping himself busy by bothering nearby Companions to keep him up to speed on the gossip. 

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Shavri is thinking about prioritization. 

They don't actually know for sure yet how many channels Van or Joshel or Karis get. But if three is the usual, and it goes off how "Splendid" you are, and Shavri is even slightly guessing right about what "Splendid" means, then - she can see how Blai might not have so much of it to go around, even if he's a very impressive person in some ways, and she doesn't think any of the other three have less of it than the average person. Honestly, she would kind of like to have more to go on, she should ask Blai for definitions if she can squeeze it in, but - assume they all have the usual three, Van has used one and has two left, that's two and three and three and Blai's two. Ten channels, and for everyone except Blai and debatably Seldan, the new clerics' channels are exactly as good as Blai's stronger ones.

They got through yesterday on the equivalent of three channels, if she's calling the Cure spells equivalent to one extra channel per person. And that was when most of the people in the room hadn't gotten a Lesser Restoration at any point, though admittedly the Lesser Restorations this morning were mostly repairing the new 'cracks' that had accumulated over the endless afternoon and night. It's interesting, she - definitely noticed some variability in how well it landed for each person? And that seems to be a fact about the spell, not a fixed trait for each person; Stef got more oomph out of the one this morning than the one yesterday. In any case, for most of them it....seems to have mostly kept pace with the progression of the damage, at least on whatever single specific underlying process is affecting "Endurance" and slowly destroying their ability to hold life-force. Damage to muscle and nerves is proceeding on its not-at-all-merry way, everyone except Blai is going to have trouble feeding themselves or even sitting up unaided, but - that wasn't the part that was going to kill Randi. And of course everyone except Blai is separately weak from lack of nourishment - Blai does seem to be getting something from the porridge, however impaired his gut is at doing its job - and that can cause them plenty of problems in itself, but it's a normal problem that Shavri understands, one that nearly every Healer is used to dealing with in patients with long illnesses, not - whatever strange diffuse not-quite-injury the other thing is. 

...So where does that leave her. With ten channels left, she could space one practically almost every two candlemarks, if she had to. Even if the Virtue spell only lets them free up Healers and doesn't actually delay the rate of leaking, at that channel frequency no one's life-force would ever get very low at all. Will that slow down the other damage? She's not sure, but it's got to be better than the alternative. 

The question is whether it's necessary, and whether it actually justifies demanding that Karis stay in this room all day and spend her channels on keeping just five people alive a little longer. 

...Probably not. Shavri is loathe to give up any resource she can commandeer for this, but - there are other problems. Other patients, even if they aren't hers, and it's not her right to deny them aid just because the people in this room are ones she knows and cares about (or at least, in Nayoki's case, has gotten very emotionally invested in despite never meeting her before this.) 

:Karis: she sends, heavily. :I think you can go, if you've gotten all your most important questions answered. We can make do with Joshel and Van.: 

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Karis had, uh, not actually considered that Shavri had any standing to demand that she stay here?

She nods, thought. :Blai - thank you. That was valuable advice and I appreciate it.: 

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Blai was actually totally expecting the newly minted Sarenrite to stick around and do some healing, if maybe a bit more clustered than "every two candlemarks", but if she's got urgent plans to run off to Iftel he's not going to second-guess her. :Of course. If you come up with more questions I will answer those as well:

Now, what could Seldan be forgetting. Time to cast a Guidance and run through everybody and everything that might have ever been useful to track. People in the room: attended by healers, in danger but already monitored appropriately. Healers themselves: ...maybe not sleeping enough, that's bad, they need sleep, is an extra Lesser Restoration tomorrow more valuable than a Nap Stack, he could Nap Stack the room and that would probably help any of the sick who managed to sleep through it too, though it relies on them having another fancy pillow. The healers are at least getting, like, snack breaks, right? They're drinking water? The dead people: did they make sure they knew any applicable funereal customs, are they definitely justified in being confident that they aren't going to rise as Weird Progressive Damage Themed Zombies... The k'Treva attack was a false flag, is there any chance that Iftel is, do some relevant parties maybe think Valdemar or some other god or something did it. Is it possible that some other god did do it and they're unfairly maligning Vkandis - unlikely Sarenrae would poach in that case, but impossible? Uncertain. Getting to Golarion - probably waiting on Archmage Cottonet and if he doesn't show up Blai just lives here now and the dead stay dead unless they become horses, that's bad and maybe Blai should think about getting together some of those arbitrageable gems and see if he can pay an inevitable to buy a Sending to hurry that timeline up at all but - ah, his Remove Sickness has worn off, fuck, fuck fuck, okay, three fucks is enough fucks, back to worrying -

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Karis at least did manage to remember that Shavri had plans for the spells she got that seem specifically useful here. She'll...stand and wait for Shavri to arrange that. Shavri looks pretty busy and overwhelmed. 

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Seldan had actually noted a few times - quietly, to himself - that there had been surprisingly little Blai-worrying lately. He's almost reassured by its reappearance! And it's certainly a productive time for worrying, Seldan should really have been doing more of it himself. He's been doing his best to keep an eye on the Healers and is indeed a bit worried, there are definitely faces back here this morning who only left late last night and that's not going to be sustainable for many more days.

...Nap Stack is intriguing, it would mean one of them having to skip the Lesser Restoration but Seldan himself might be okay waiting two days for the next one? It seems to help with - stamina for receiving Healing, or something? of the Velgarth-Healer kind, but also to some extent hitting how much they can benefit from the channels, Shavri was very insistent on doing it before the channels for Nayoki and Stef - and he's a Groveborn, he has stamina for miles. Anyway if they decide it's worth it, they have until tomorrow for Lady Treesa to make another pillow, if she doesn't have one already with enough tasteless frippery sewn on. She'd be so delighted. 

Seldan hasn't been worrying about funerary customs but– what, no, he's never heard of...what even is that...oh, wow, Blai's world is incredibly messed up and Seldan is pretty sure Velgarth doesn't have that thing. Ew. 

He's almost certain that no one is going to blame Valdemar for the barrier coming down, because what the fuck, Valdemar couldn't do that. It's possible some of the Ifteli survivors with limited information sources on events elsewhere are assuming Leareth did it, but what exactly are they going to do about it? Murder him? - that's being flippant, it's a genuine concern, but that clearly wasn't Vkandis' goal, which He achieved just fine, so probably Vkandis has no reason to actively steer for it? Assuming Vkandis can still do anything, Seldan is really hoping that that was it and Vkandis is broker than Iomedae now. 

...paying an inevitable to what, that - is that a thing - that seems important to– ...he'll make a note of that to think through later. And to make sure someone is on top of diamond sourcing, they must have been thinking about it already for resurrections, he's sure there's something in the works... 

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Oops, Shavri mistimed her planning and now she's stuck doing tedious one-on-one Healing with Blai if she wants him to keep down his food. She'd been wanting to find out what Vanyel has, but that was going to benefit from him having his Remove Sickness, and he should get one of Blai's, Seldan is the one who can cope the best with a shorter total duration or mistimed gaps between re-castings. 

Well, Blai is an experienced cleric, she's seen him cast spells without having to think about it too hard.

:Blai, if we bring Van here so you don't need to move, can you cast his Remove Sickness next? ...As long as I'm here you're not going to throw up even if it feels like you're about to, there's a Healing-trick for it.: 

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Oh that's very useful of her, if he won't throw up he can definitely get through a verbal component. :Yes, I can:

Fiducia Joshel would be the natural person to ask about whether they've accumulated any diamonds that could be put to this use, but it might not be a good use of them to pay an inevitable for a sending - even if the inevitable could not do this for them at all it would still be very expensive, and waiting a few weeks for Archmage Cottonet to possibly notice on his own that Blai isn't there is free, although Gentle Repose is he guesses not free because they're relying on Lesser Restorations and that's the same slot - the window for Raise Dead is nine days of lying around un-Reposed, a bit longer if they get a more powerful cleric, anyone who would need a full Resurrection anyway might as well also have whatever retrievable remains are present in a box for a few years and it won't make a difference, anyone who'd need a True Resurrection can be left dead for a really long time -

"Remove Sickness."

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Oh neat is that the Abadaran title, Seldan should tell Joshel, should it be Fiducia-Herald or Herald-Fiducia– not important right now. The tradeoff between waiting long enough to confirm that the archmage isn't going to find them rather than wasting diamonds, versus waiting so long that Leareth and Yfandes and whoever-else are no longer Raise Dead-reachable, does seem hard. He's going to need to mull on that one. It might depend what Leareth's org had done in terms of diamond procurement – he should probably just pose the question to them directly, if they want to collect some diamonds to try sooner and increase the odds it takes less than nine– than eight more days, that seems kind of up to them.

(Maybe Seldan will be able to make do on a Lesser Restoration every other day and they can squeeze in Gentle Reposes on the key people, but - he doesn't have infinite stamina, and Shavri did not seem to think the underlying problem causing the other problems was being solved or on track to improve.) 

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Shavri manages to multitask enough to confirm that Vanyel thinks her demonstration of the Remove Sickness gesture matches one of his 'bigger' spells but not the other. Shavri doesn't give a shit about the other one, it can't be turned into a Cure and is presumably his...domain? spell? whatever that means. Why does he only get two, everyone else has three - it can't be because he's dying, that hasn't affected Blai's spell slot count at all. Weird. Whatever, not a mystery Shavri has any energy to care about now. As long as he has at least three channels, that's all that matters. 

She didn't manage to retain the gestures for any of the various 'small' spells. Joshel and Karis know theirs now, though, they can take turns showing Vanyel and hopefully figure out what he's got. Oh, and she'll tell Karis that they need her Remove Sicknesses in about an hour, they'll do Seldan next so Karis is free to go even though all else equal Shavri would really want Stef to get it sooner rather than later - maybe she can be mean and horrible and make Seldan do without painblocking - 

 

...Speaking of that, she'd better reassign Gemma to Vanyel, he's valiantly trying to eat but his sore mouth is obviously making it difficult. Sorry, Blai, no more painblocking either. 

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Ow. (That's actually way less distracting than the nausea, though.) Wisdom affects how many spells clerics get, maybe Vanyel is not particularly Wise. It's not easy to tell, especially in adults, just by being casually around a person - Vanyel did not seem notably unWise to Blai - in school they used seriousness in general as a proxy for Wisdom when filtering for clerical candidates even though it's hardly impossible to be Wise and have a sense of humor, or stoic and also about as Wise as a turnip - anyway, what was he thinking about - "Guidance," he mutters - do they have anything even slightly like normalized relations with what remains of Leareth's organization as of now or would they be trying to make Nayoki talk to them while she's still sick? -

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Seldan is no longer relaying all of Blai's potentially-relevant thoughts to Shavri, so she does not have an opportunity to hear that Vanyel "did not seem notably unWise" and snort loudly about this claim. 

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Seldan had been talking to some guy who Leareth had stationed in Haven to do comms-spell relaying! He's been avoiding Mindspeaking at a distance today to save his reserves, but he would do that in preference to asking Nayoki, that just leaves it on her to Mindspeak at range and she really shouldn't be doing that. 

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(Between Joshel, who has Virtue and Guidance and Stabilize, and Karis, who has Virtue and Resistance and Stabilize, they're able to determine that Vanyel got Virtue, Guidance, and Resistance.)

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The Star-Eyed Goddess has a problem. 

 

She has a number of different problems, really. The biggest one is obviously Vkandis. The second-biggest is...probably the Shadowgod, who has managed to neatly pull the godpolitics equivalent of a coup over the Valdemar region. She has resources elsewhere, unlike Vkandis She hasn't burned everything, but those are - fundamentally local resources and already spoken of for local priorities. 

The third-biggest problem is related to both the first and the second, and is that She still can't see very well. The Shadowgod seems to have found some way to cheat, but She has no idea what it is and They aren't sharing. 

The fourth-biggest problem is that Cayden, who has otherwise been very helpful, will not stop bringing up how bothered He is at how She treated Her mortals. 

 

The Star-Eyed has attempted to ask several times what He thinks She should do about it now. Among other things that the Star-Eyed definitely cannot do right now, because see the aforementioned problems, He keeps insisting that She owes her mortal - the one who is still alive and who He was so upset over before - an "apology". The Star-Eyed Goddess has been patiently attempting to clarify what that means. Cayden has mostly been sending the same godconcept that didn't make sense the first time at her but with more frustration, and did not seem to want to just give her a specific thing to copy to tell Her mortal even though that worked before.

She did ask him if an "apology" would make the mortal more visible and legible to Her or more useful as a resource. Cayden seemed to find this even more frustrating and She has no idea why, but He conceded that it might. Which is at least an argument for the importance of an "apology", rather than just insisting on it being important without explaining! But does not clarify what it involves doing

 

Cayden eventually did the metaphorical godequivalent of storming off in disgust, but He did grudgingly tell Her that this one other goddess from His world might be able to communicate it differently in a way that works for Her. 

 

She will try to contact Sarenrae. 

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Hello there.

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Hi! The Star-Eyed Goddess has a problem with a thing and is trying to figure it out and Cayden Cailean suggested She ask Sarenrae about it!

 

...Explaining things is hard. She can start with the prelude, which is that Cayden contacted Her to try to explain humans and, in the process of doing this, was very upset about - can Sarenrae also see this mortal? This mortal is Hers, like all of its people are through the pact, but more Hers than most because of being a Healing-Adept. And - 

 

- she did this thing, here's the shape of it in the web-of-past in Foresight, all of these mortals of Hers who died because that let Her steer into this branch of Foresight for this conclusion and Cayden already lectured her about that it doesn't need to be repeated yet again. It didn't work, even though it really should have, so on that level She can't claim that it wasn't a mistake, and Cayden has been explaining that it hurt Her mortals in ways She wasn't able to see at the time, and thinks that She could have done it a different way that hurt Her mortals less if She had known to be trying for that, and maybe that's also true. 

(Cayden also thinks that the thing She was trying to achieve in the first place might have been a mistake but that isn't important anymore, although She did end up deciding that it wasn't worth burning even more of Her resources on before Vkandis went and burned all of His resources on it and She would prefer if He hadn't done that.) 

...Anyway, this mortal isn't dead, and Cayden showed her what He saw and - 

The human's mind is very loud, to Cayden's godsenses, and the thing it's screaming is trapped. It looks like there are chains of some kind wrapped around the human's mind, chains so old that the human's mind has grown around them. They normally didn't limit the human much. But now the human's mind keeps half-forming these thoughts, and then the chain tightens and the thoughts are cut off and the human hurts. The human can barely think at all, in fact, except about trivialities, because every time the human tries to think deeply about his situation the chain stops him.

The human is in a lot of pain. He is scared and alone. 

It is one thing to take the human's body prisoner, and Cayden is pretty annoyed with the archmade too. But it is far worse to take the human's mind as a prisoner. 

- and She agreed to give her mortal this message that Cayden gave her: "the Star-Eyed might have made a mistake".

 

It did have an effect of some kind, She thinks, for one thing because Cayden seemed to calm down about it a bit, but also because her mortal is all the way over here now instead of over there where She has even less visibility or influence, and...She didn't really follow what it was aiming for, Foresight was really very messy at the time and it did not actually go anywhere anyway, but it seemed to be something, and it wasn't something She had directly tried to steer? It was this thread back here, in case Sarenrae also has the Cayden-ability to understand what mortals are trying to do even when it's not obvious from the results in Foresight? 

Cayden has been trying to convey that She owes this mortal a different message saying something - more - about the having made a mistake? Cayden conveyed it like this but the Star-Eyed Goddess did not really follow. Cayden did agree that it could make Her mortal more legible to Her or more useful as a resource, which She would like, because She has very fewer angles to nudge anything in Foresight and cannot even see very well to give Her mortal instructions. 

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Ahhhhh-huh.

So... is the Star-Eyed clear that mortals decide to do things in order to get results they like, just the same as gods do? They're bad at it and sometimes they will do things that will have results that they do not like and could have predicted in advance. But they do more or less overall try to do this.

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...Cayden did sort of explain that, conceptually? It does make sense and seem like it must be true, since mortals have tendencies to do things even without being nudged - including unpredictable things! that aren't very clear in Foresight until after they happen! - and that is not true of, for example, Heartstones.

(The Star-Eyed had mostly associated this with the specific incredibly frustrating soul who kept doing all of these things for really a very long time and She had just decided that trying to kill that one was not worth any more resources and then Vkandis did it and caused a Cataclysm in the process! Admittedly a small Cataclysm that won't last as long or take so much work to clean up after, and He might have less advantage than She does to seeing the ways in which the effects of it are Cataclysm-flavored, given that He was not as involved in cleaning up the aftereffects of the last one. In any case, this - the frustrating soul, that is, though also the downstream effects including Vkandis doing a Cataclysm about it - has not left Her with an incredibly positive or sympathetic opinion of the mortal tendency to try to do things.) 

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Okay, good. Step two: one of the things some mortals might do in order to try to get results they like is follow the Star-Eyed. Yes? She has this ancestral pact situation but it's still a thing they are doing and know they are doing and think they prefer the results of.

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...Yes? Yes, the Star-Eyed thinks She understands that. The mortals can leave if they want! See, this one that's closely adjacent to the other one isn't Hers anymore. 

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Great! That's nice that there is an escape valve for the ancestral pact.

And what a bunch of humans got for following the Star-Eyed was: killed. Does She think that is the kind of thing they had in mind as a result they wanted here?

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...Cayden did spent a long time trying to convince her that the mortals dying in the particular way they did is a different and worse kind of harm to them than all the other ways they die while living in the Pelagirs, which they must not mind because very few of them decide to leave? That the fact that all of them died at once - so instead of an entire Vale being disrupted by one mortal dying, it was a couple of mortals being disrupted, the other ones' souls are all with Her - doesn't mean it hurt them less, and it matters that mortals sometimes dying in the routine of things is - not surprising to them? and this would have been, if there had been time to be surprised about it, which there wasn't? 

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The ways they die by just living their normal lives in the Pelagirs are predictable, yes - not in the individual cases but they're all "the kind of thing that might happen". Is Vales blowing up the kind of thing that might happen? Presumably not, or it wouldn't have worked very well to convince that other mortal that it was enemy action?

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It could happen, like all of these times when it did happen a very long time ago, but...all right, the Star-Eyed is amenable to the argument that it working so well to steer down that Foresight-path is related to it not being something that the mortals expect would happen just by itself? 

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So the ingredients are:

- some mortals decided to do a thing (follow and be resources for the Star-Eyed)
- they did this to get good-for-them results
- (the specific concept for the interaction of those two concepts is "trust": they "trust"ed the Star-Eyed to make it a good idea for them to follow Her)
- the Star-Eyed decided to do something that gave them bad results instead
- not just in terms of them being dead, but also this sacrifice turning out not to have a very important consequence they might have wanted on their own if they knew more
- and if you do something that harms someone who trusts you, you do the "apology" concept,
- where You acknowledge that You harmed them, and they trusted You, and that sucks, and You would like it to not be a stupid mistake to trust You in the future.
- optionally you also specify how it is going to not be a stupid mistake to trust You in the future.

That specific mortal survivor of the whole business looks REALLY fragile and talking to living mortals is expensive and difficult. The Star-Eyed could put those souls in Nirvana and practice with them first, to get down to a cheaper message length.

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That is a lot of godconcepts, many of which are very puzzling! The Star-Eyed Goddess will diligently try to make sense of them, and - oh, maybe that is the same thing that Cayden Cailean was trying to say from a differently-baffling angle! Triangulating it from two directions probably means She understood it right? 

So She can convey that message - maybe with practicing it first on the other souls She has - and then Her mortal will be more visible in Foresight and more able to do things even when She can’t provide very specific steering?

 

(It’s fairly clear that, while the Star-Eyed does seem solid on “a bad thing happened to Her mortal because of Her actions, which She didn’t see before and does now”, and to be generally on board with conveying information to Her mortals so that They understand better what She wants and are more legible to Her even if She isn’t sure of the exact mechanism by which this information would achieve that -

- it’s also the case that She has mostly not noticed a discrepancy between conveying a message that Her mortal would understand as “promising to do better”, while still on some level believing that all parties who disagree that it would have been a clever and reasonable plan if it had worked are being unreasonable and confusing.)

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It would have been a clever and reasonable plan if all of the following were true:

- it had worked (it didn't)
- it was aimed at a goal that was in fact really important (instead of "seemed important at the time")
- that goal was also of interest to the people sacrificed in the plan (it might have been, Sarenrae's not sure)
- enough that they would have agreed if She could have asked them about it in advance (probably not! it takes a lot for people to agree that you can explode their whole family)
- ...or that She was planning to compensate them well enough that they would forgive her ("forgive" is the negative space of "apologize", like so, see) (reincarnating them in configurations that let them see their favorite people again soon MIGHT count, and She's welcome to investigate this question when they're in question-answering condition e.g. in Nirvana).

But those things are mostly not true. The Star-Eyed should, if promising to do better, have in mind a way to cause Her future plans to be better than this one, better even than it would have been if it had (merely) worked since that's only one of the things on the list.

Sarenrae is not actually sure this will make her mortal much more steerable. Maybe it won't. But if it's a stupid mistake to trust you then all your followers will be people who make stupid mistakes.

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...The Star-Eyed would, in fact, previously have been very sure that Her goal was also of interest to Her people and that they would understand why it was important! The soul-that-wasn’t-exactly-mortal that She had been trying to deal with was really terrible! It was associated with Cataclysms and all of Her people clearly agree those are very bad!

She did, in fact, try the kind of plan where She asked Her people to do something, and over a very long time a large number of Her people were willing to die in service of that, and it never worked. This time, it was even clear in Foresight, as well as likely from past information, that sending Her mortal a vision wouldn’t work! (Sending a vision to a Healing-Adept specifically is not very expensive or difficult, if it’s an instruction to do a specific thing that She can track in Foresight.) The Star-Eyed Goddess is unclear why not, the problem isn’t that Her mortals receive the instruction and ignore it, the problem is that they fail.


…The confusing part is that - okay, so She thought it would be…agreed on, by most of the mortals…that the one She wanted to stop was terrible and worth stopping? And the thing is that it wasn’t, or wasn’t only, a different god outsmarting Her, when the plan failed. It was…quite a lot of the thing where mortals try to do things without steering, that aren’t perfectly predictable in Foresight. A lot more of that, from more different mortals, than is ever pointed at trying to stop most deaths! 

So they…must have wanted the incredibly frustrating not-really-mortal to stay alive? Why??

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Sarenrae doesn't have a great view of this. Maybe it was (or seemed) very useful at some mortal level thing the two of Them don't have a good angle on.

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Well, it doesn't matter now, since Vkandis did a Cataclysm to kill it. (Which only even worked because it seems Her mortal had succeeded at the hardest part, making it so the soul wouldn't just pop right back up again somewhere else, and the plan just somehow failed on the second half, actually killing it. All of Them had managed that at least a few times before so why in the world did Vkandis even need a (small) Cataclysm for it??) 

 

...The Star-Eyed will go back to staring in bemusement at "Sarenrae is not actually sure this will make her mortal much more steerable. Maybe it won't." It's - not exactly that Her reaction is 'then why should I care'? She's already been sold on caring about at least one thing that She wasn't tracking before! She's open to it! It's more that She...cannot actually get purchase on the relevant concepts when She can't figure out how it's supposed to change something in the world that She can perceive (so, visible in Foresight, or usable as a resource.) That's what communication is for, isn't it, having effects on things? So if She sends Her mortal a message and it doesn't have one of those effects, then it's hard to feel like any information was conveyed at all? 

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So, she wants the resources for some kind of end, right? Like preventing Cataclysms, but not literally only that thing.

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Yes! A lot of things! She even agreed to Cayden that the whole preventing-Cataclysms part made it harder to get as much of - 

- the humans are meant to live in a world that feels small and understandable to them, that's what they're shaped for, a Vale of a few hundred people where everyone can know everyone else's name (this is not exactly the terms in which the Star-Eyed Goddess thinks of it but Cayden can infer) - a world where they know what to expect for their children and their children's children, where there's a path for them to follow that makes sense to them - 

 

(the vision of the Summerlands as She recognizes it, the small communities and their traditions since time immemorial, the network of relationships and people supporting one another, children growing up with the safety-comfort-certainty of a well-understood world and place in it where they fit)

(and the terrible not-quite-mortal, not that it matters anymore, was making the world less like that everywhere it touched, which the Star-Eyed really should have meant that Her people also had an interest in Her goal) 

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Okay, that helps Sarenrae get a good look at this, it's not Her Thing so she didn't have great clarity. ...Sarenrae thinks She understands the next concepts but is not sure She can explain them, can She refer the Star-Eyed to Shelyn here?

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The Star-Eyed Goddess would appreciate that! All of the gods from Sarenrae's world are very hard to understand but triangulating the hard-to-understand from a third angle might help some more. 

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Shelyn introduces Herself. Her Thing is relationships between people, when they care about each other - oh, the Star-Eyed does soulgluefriends too, Shelyn is very charmed by the concept - and Vales are a lovely way for people to live! Well done.

So, mortals think all kinds of ways about each other. There are soooooo many flavors of love. A Vale is big enough to have most of them (though not specifically "two incredibly weird people who are weird in the same way find each other out of many millions", but that doesn't have to be the Star-Eyed's preferred flavor, that's fine). It will have parents and children and friends and romances and avuncular mentorships and grandmas and - ohhhhh hertasi are so cute look at that, that's a new fun flavor, what to call it, "hidey caretaker"? - anyway it has all those relationships and -

- the relationship between each one of those mortals and their god.

Gods and mortals are not the same. But they can still have relationships. Mortals are usually aware that gods are a different thing, but - they are prone to thinking of it as more like how humans and hertasi are different things?

In every single Vale, the Star-Eyed is a tribe member.

If a human tribe member blew up their whole Vale on purpose the Star-Eyed would probably not incarnate that soul again.

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Shelyn has a very interesting kind of visibility on mortals! It seems useful! The Star-Eyed Goddess is following, so far, She can follow most of the concept-threads and She thinks that with more explanation and practice She might, even, be able to match it up with things that She can already see...

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....that was not something the Star-Eyed Goddess knew. That is genuinely new information!

 

Is it, like, Her mortals would be sad if She stopped existing, or - went away and abandoned them? (The disruption when a mortal in one of the Vales decides to leave forever is also something She can see and that She tries to steer for less of, that’s part of why She prefers places that work more like the Vales and less like literally every place the terrible one ever had anything to do with, you would think from looking at the results that it actively valued mortals leaving all the others they had relationships with forever.)

 


The thing that happened wasn’t either of those things, and…Her mortal does still want to be Hers, She can see that very clearly, at one point She thought Cayden wanted Her to dissolve the pact for it and She thinks that would have been doing another terrible thing to it…

 

 

She just. She didn’t know that She had that. This…thing, that isn’t exactly a resource but kind of is, it didn’t - it wasn’t what it looked like to Foresight, even if She’s now unsure what She thought it looked like instead…

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Her mortals would be sad if She stopped existing or if She abandoned them! And also they really were not expecting Her to kill them. They thought they were safe with Her. Being good to them will mean making them safe with Her and demonstrating that She is sorry for hurting them. That will protect and nurture this resource She didn't know She had that has been so badly damaged, even if it hurts in the short term.

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Which is in some sense literally the exact same thing that both Cayden and Sarenrae were very patiently telling Her repeatedly, but it's convincing this time. 

 

 

...How does She. Do that. She still can't see it, which is why She couldn't understand before why everyone was being so insistent about it and then repeatedly acting like She was missing the point. She thinks she understands it now but She has no feedback on it. And is also suddenly more confused why the mortal in question, the one that's still alive, does even still want to be Hers. 

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That's a very loyal mortal She has there who loves Her very much. Like so, look, it's bittersweetly pretty, see?

The mortal needs to hear that She is taking good care of the souls from the Vale (and that needs to be true) and that She will take more care in the future and that She understands now how the mistake happened and it will not recur. That will be a good apology.

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The Star-Eyed has gotten various advice from various other gods and Sarenrae said that She should send the other souls from the Vale to...Nirvana? What is that, She didn't clarify at the time. And also that She could practice the apology on them so that She could say it better to the still-living mortal, but She doesn't want to wait, now, and it isn't actually that difficult or expensive to send a vision, the mortal is a Healing-Adept. 

...She is not sure she understands now how the mistake happened. Or...She did underweight the cost, but She doesn't have an alternative idea for a different plan that would have worked, see, She told Sarenrae, for some unclear reason it never ever worked when She just tried to communicate directly to selected mortals of Hers that it was important, and She doesn't– She isn't sure it was worth a Cataclysm for Vkandis to kill the frustrating terrible not-mortal (if He should even get the credit for that, it only worked because Her mortal, the one She hurt so badly, did manage the hard part of making the terrible soul actually-a-mortal).

But She is very confused about something related to how the other mortals relate to the terrible one, and Sarenrae didn't have good visibility of it either, but - there was all this tension here, in the past-Foresight-web, that's what it looks like (or at least this is Her understanding of it now, the conversations with Cayden and Sarenrae helped a lot with the framing and interpretation of it) - this is a lot of different mortals, coming from a lot of different unexpected places - including some in very close Foresight-proximity to her mortal - are trying very hard to steer for something on their own reconnaissance, and apparently they were steering for the terrible mortal not being dead since that was the result... 

It feels impossible to actually understand the mistake until She understands that. 

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Maybe they like this mortal even though the Star-Eyed does not. Maybe he is very charming when you get to know him.

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…Mortals who might cause Cataclysms should probably be dead and stay that way no matter how charming they are, though? Also it was going to do - (a complicated and less-clear godconceptpacket of the Star-Eyed's understanding of Leareth's plan) - and that was going to kill so many of the mortals! That was a very important part too! 

 

Maybe it doesn’t matter, like She said to Sarenrae, since that mortal is dead regardless of whether or not it was reasonable of Her to aim for that or reasonable of the mortals to try to stop Her.

But…it’s a different message, if She translates “I should not have hurt you this way, the cost was too high no matter how important the aim was, and I won’t do it again because I understand now how much it hurt you” into speaking-to-mortals-concepts and conveys that, versus if She also includes “and it was not even the right thing to aim for, because of __________, and now I understand that” or just "and it probably won't come up again since that mortal is dead now". It’s not just different in terms of the concepts They can talk about here, it looks like it would have different effects.

Cayden seemed very firm that She shouldn’t draft a message off its effects in Foresight without making sure that everything in it is something She understands and knows is true. Also that wouldn’t even work in this case because She can’t see far out enough to tell which way is better, either for Her own goals or - for fixing as much as possible of hurt-like-the-way-mortals-hurt-each-other-but-by-Her that her mortal suffered, which She supposes is also one of Her own goals now. 

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Did the mortals know that this mortal caused the Cataclysm or that they were going to kill so many people? It's possible for mortals to just not know that kind of thing.

Shelyn agrees with Cayden that the message should be all true. Squinting at the future from here... hmmm... the easiest thing for Shelyn to see is that Shelyn's new cleric, this mortal over here, is friends with the one the Star-Eyed objects to so much. Which is... actually really weird and interesting if the objectionable one was going to do that many murders! Shelyn's cleric has suffered through a war but surprisingly that often affects mortals very differently from nonwar killings... why are they friends...

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That was not the thing that was supposed to happen!!! That mortal was supposed to kill the terrible one!!! It might not have worked, but this was a truly bizarre way for it to end up not-working and is definitely the Shadowgod's fault specifically. ...Though that's not a complete answer, is it, She's coming to recognize more that even when there's a lot of nudging happening, it's still meaningful that mortals want their own things and try to get them. 

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Well, they're definitely friends now however that happened, so probably they do not want to kill each other. Maybe they were hoping to work out some kind of compromise that wasn't so bad?

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......So does that mean that that mortal - who is Shelyn's mortal now? that's so interesting! - is going to be very sad about it? 

It takes some slow and effortful reasoning-through, but - that seems like it would be bad for her mortal. Like, not just "and now the other not-Hers mortals in proximity to it want to stop letting it do any things", which made perfect sense to Her, but - bad for the network-of-family thing? Which they are part of together even though it's only the one mortal who is Hers and that doesn't usually happen. 

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Yes, though he will be more sad about his missing soulgluefriend.

And - oh, yes, Shelyn's mortal is also quite close with the Star-Eyed's mortal! How about that. ...which makes it kind of additionally troubling to have set up the Star-Eyed's mortal to kill his family member's friend.

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......The Star-Eyed has been reminded about some of the earlier steps in the setup for all of this and is doing some re-evaluation of certain costs that She miiiight not have understood well enough to weigh at the time. 

 

(It was importantly not Her work unilaterally! She didn't have nearly enough remit in Valdemar for that, the Shadowgod was on board even if in hindsight They were probably planning along to do something insane instead of the simple obvious 'point this mortal at the terrible not-mortal' plan. But it was in some sense Her idea. It was almost never the best path to accomplish anything whatsoever to separate soulgluefriends, but...the Star-Eyed did not, actually, at the time, know how to see the costs that don't appear blatantly in Foresight.) 

(The Star-Eyed is not thinking about this incredibly legibly, but isn't not letting Shelyn see it.) 

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...oh no. That was really very miserable for the poor mortal! A lot of these plans seem to work through having a step of a mortal being very miserable! It's not a good feature in a plan! At least the soulgluefriend has been repackaged and they are together again!

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It didn't look like– no, that isn't it, the thing is that the Star-Eyed Goddess does not actually have much direct visibility on whether a mortal is miserable, only the effect it has on - results. Some types of results are something She was, in any way at all, tracking as correlated with 'a thing that is bad for mortals happened here' but there was much less of that than one would usually expect if soulgluefriends are separated, the results were very effective, and...She supposes She didn't think about it in more detail than that. 

That seems like something where an apology might be owed as well, but it would be much more expensive to send a message to Shelyn's mortal. She was able to manage it a couple of times, but that was when it was reaching in that direction and in proximity to a Heartstone, She would not be able to do it anymore. 

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Shelyn can do this when the mortal is next praying, if the Star-Eyed will front her some of this thing? ...do they have that thing here? If they don't Abdadar can probably finesse something.

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The Star-Eyed did notice that the gods in the other world do something that seems different from here. She has - unused steering-power? - but that isn't straightforwardly something that can be traded, it's just the concrete reality of "are You already pulling hard enough to leave no remaining slack for additional Foresight nudges" - and She has, like, all of her Vales, which are a resource that mostly cashes out as anticipated future slack for steering, but She doesn't know – well, if Abadar can do something to...translate it...then She would be willing to spend Her resources on that. 

 

...She still doesn't know what to tell Her mortal, that would be true and also - fix it? Practicing the message with the others who are dead doesn't seem like it would help, because She thinks the stakes are almost entirely that this mortal is still alive and still in close proximity to Shelyn's mortal who tried very hard not to let the terrible one die and is sad that it happened anyway. 

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In six and a half months that Vale over there is going to receive a visitor who is going to attempt to give them a tip out of gratitude for clearing the area that the visitor will have settled by then. If the Star-Eyed will have this visitor not killed at all, instead have them peacefully received and the payment graciously accepted and the precedent for them to trade with their settled neighbors established, Abadar will call that good for the amount of intervention budget Shelyn wants to talk to Her cleric.

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....There are actual reasons why the Vales don't normally welcome visitors but - sure. It's not the first exception made and this is a valuable result to get from it even if it's a weird indirect trade result. 

 

 

Does Shelyn, with Her better visibility of mortals and their relationships and also of apologies, think that it would be workable, in an apology, to tell Her mortal that She doesn't know if killing the terrible not-mortal soul was correct to aim for or not? Because that much is true. It seems probably still correct, on the general principle that now it can't murder huge numbers of other mortals to make a new god that would have messed up everything for Everyone, but - She can't actually see the long-term effects now, and already couldn't at the time, since the mortal that belongs to Iomedae showed up in the final setup and made everything extremely confusing. And then Her mortal can...decide whether to think it was an incorrect thing to do if that means that it can do a better apology and fix the problem with its friends? 

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Shelyn thinks that will not much diminish the quality of the apology.

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...And maybe She should tell Her mortal, who does still want to be Hers, that She does not have any specific mission for it right now - because that's also true, the closest is that She could tell it to go to one of the other Vales but that seems...worse...if the mortals it knows and cares about (who are still alive) are all in Valdemar. She thinks something is better if She does have a mission for it, maybe it's just that this mortal likes having missions from Her? But since She doesn't know, maybe the next best thing is to say that it will probably have more information than She does about what things are correct to do? 

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That sounds good to Shelyn. It could conceivably help to let the mortal know specifically that his goddess is having trouble seeing, in case he's not clear on that feature of gods.

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That makes sense. 

 

 

...How does she actually put souls in Nirvana. Sarenrae brought it up but did not provide instructions. 

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Oh you just take the soul and then you go like this -

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Seldan gets his own Remove Sickness (the first of five) about an hour later. 

 

And INSTANTLY REMEMBERS what he was forgetting this entire time! Which is that the Shadowgod told him to come back later for an explanation! And since then there've been three new clerics of different gods turning up, and Seldan would love to know if the Shadowgod has...plans...in light of that. That might be a way to resolve sooner rather than later whether there's incoming rescue from Golarion!

 

...Ugh, he shouldn't do it until after he's spent fifty minutes eating. (Right after is a perfectly good time, really, last time it made him mostly unaware of his body and that's going to be so welcome.) 

 

Hey Blai are you awake Blai Seldan is boooored. 

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Yes. If they are going to play chess while Seldan is Remove Sickness'd and Blai is not there should probably be handicapping to account for that.

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Ooh, chess! It's been more than a day since they played any mental chess and Seldan had forgotten to miss it or find it weird but it is. 

 

...Though first he does want to muse a bit where Blai can see it about talking to the Shadowgod, in case Blai produces thoughtful god-communication advice or productive worrying. He...miiiight have departed the last conversation with a lot of VERY ANGRY YELLING and it...seems unlikely that the Shadowgod would take this personally? But it was probably not entirely fair to be as pissed off as he was and isn't sure if that calls for an apology. 

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Blai would not really expect a god to take that personally. Take it as disrespect to be punished, possibly, if they're more in the Asmodean stripe, and it's hard to suss out what their expectations should be for a god who doesn't have an alignment anybody knows about, but not personally. The new clerics seem likely to be coordinated somehow, and "a local god invited them" is a reasonable guess at a possible coordination mechanism, but it may or may not have been Shadowgod. (Why does the Shadowgod have to be called that, he's conjuring up a mental image of Zon-Kuthon every time.) Is Seldan at risk of having a god headache, sometimes people who get visions from gods back on Golarion have dreadful headaches afterwards. Would painblocking even work on one of those? He doesn't want Seldan to have a god headache.

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Seldan...is guessing it would be like yesterday, where he did come back feeling worse but the worse-ness wasn't mostly a dreadful headache?  ...He doesn't see why painblocking wouldn't work on a headache just because a god did it, and if it turns out he does get one and painblocking doesn't work then he can ask a Healer to keep him asleep with Healing for a while, that's safer than drugs. But probably he's just going to come back sort of groggy and disoriented and feeling weird about physical embodiment. He doesn't think it's physically risky at all. 

 

...Honestly, 'Shadowgod' is kind of a placeholder name to begin with, backfilled from "Shadow-Lover" – they're not going to get everyone in Valdemar on board with changing that reference, but it's not like the larger god has an existing organized church that calls Them something. Maybe Blai and Seldan should get to personally come up with a cooler name! He could even check that the Shadow-Lover-god-of-name-to-be-determined is happy with it, if they can think of one in the next forty-seven minutes!

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Other known traits of the god: ... not a whole lot. Vaguely chthonic. Involved with making Companions. Looks like so when appearing to Blai personally but that varies?

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Indeed, the god does not seem to be advertising any of Their traits that would be especially compelling to name Them after. ...Where do other god-names even come from. The Star-Eyed Goddess is, as far as Seldan knows, named for how She appears in visions, and...vague recollection that 'Vkandis' is evolved from a word in a dead language that meant something sun-related – which means that Vkandis' name is "Sunlord Sunlord", how silly. The Shadow-Lover's god doesn't seem to have any...nouns...analogous to how Vkandis is specifically a sun-related god. Anathei was named for...actually Seldan doesn't know that one, though it could be a place-name, the construction would mean 'of Anath' in some language families that are spoken widely further south, where Anathei is also more widely worshipped. 

(Again: how in the world does Seldan remember that and not even, like, his one-time Companion's name??) 

It wouldn't be absurd to name the god after Valdemar? They aren't only the god of Valdemar but that didn't stop the people of wherever-Anath-was, assuming his inferred etymology is correct. 

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Well now Blai is going to be anxious about Seldan's former Companion somehow showing up and being complicated. Possibly the whole chain of them since the Companion in question would presumably have been a Herald before with a Companion of their own, possibly multiple links back. ...what would that come out to, "Valdei" or something? Or is there a more local construction.

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That...sounds kind of weird and silly, but 'Valdemargod' admittedly sounds even sillier. Possibly the main way that god-names end up not sounding silly is once they've been established for a few hundred years and everyone is used to it. And now Seldan is vaguely wondering if Leareth had picked out a name for the god he was planning to make... 

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Do the Golarion god names sound silly to Seldan...? Some of Leareth's surviving org members might know, it seems like the kind of thing you'd name the project after.

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The Golarion gods seem to have names much more like the names people have, which for Iomedae and Cayden Cailean is presumably the literal etymology, unless Iomedae was named something else as a mortal and picked out a new godname? He wouldn't even blink if it turned out someone had a sister named Shelyn, that's just a normal name.

He'll make a vague mental note to check if Leareth's staff knew of a planned name, but it doesn't seem very priority. 

Anyway, maybe for now he'll think of the god as Valdemargod. 

Chess now? 

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As far as he knows Iomedae was in fact her name in life and isn't just retconned that way in the book.

Chess now. Blai feels about a queen and one rook and two pawns of miserable, how's that for a handicap.

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(What an intriguing method to quantify how badly his Herald is doing! Seldan will definitely be trying to track trends in Blai's chess handicaps, assuming they manage to do this again tomorrow.) 

Blai is pretty calibrated about the degree of handicap! Seldan wins a match, with very nontrivial effort while he's dedicating all of his attention to it, and then loses the next one because he got bored for three seconds while Blai was picking a move and started harassing one of the trainees to relay a message about potentially doing a Nap Stack for the Healers tomorrow and then had part of his attention on that for the rest of the game. 

 

 

...The last Remove Sickness wears off midway through a match and oh that is not nice at all but Seldan will gamely try to finish it anyway. 

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Would he like to place one of the handicapped-away pieces midgame Bughouse-style to compensate?

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...That is very kind of Blai to offer but then Seldan will have to keep track of more total pieces on the shared mental-chessboard and really he just wants Blai to let him lose as efficiently as possible, he just doesn't want to concede the game in the middle because you don't do that.

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Okay. Blai checkmates him in six. And then they can just flop and be unhappy.

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It is very miserable but, if Seldan is going to be trapped in a room full of miserable sick people while himself also miserable and sick, at least it's with his favorite person in the world. 

 

...oh right he was going to go try to talk to the Shadowgod. He should...do that. Ugh. He will of course try to be careful and not end up with a godheadache, though Groveborn might be resistant to that anyway, if it's - well, it can't be all about the Foresight-as-sensory-input thing, if it still happens in Golarion without prophecy, but it's known that Companions in general and Groveborn in particular have some kind of adaptation to existing in direct contact with Foresight. 

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Formerly mortal gods are reported to leave less of a headache behind when contacting people. That's really not going to help here. Is this something Blai can... accompany... Seldan to... or is that not so much a thing, or it is but it wouldn't help.

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...It would not at all have occurred to Seldan to ask Blai to come with him! He does, actually, think he ought to be able to pull Blai along with him? And it's - his general assumption is that this would be harder on Blai, not necessarily in specifically causing him a horrible headache but the coming back sort of disoriented and out of it in a way that makes the unpleasant symptoms harder to tolerate. 

But honestly, it would be helpful, on specifically the dimension where Seldan is absolutely stalling on this because he hates the concept of being out of contact with Blai. Maybe helpful for getting useful information, too, Blai asks good questions because Seldan has the best Herald!!!!

And there's the upside that Blai also won't be aware of his body while he's there. And Seldan does think he would notice right away if it was in any way actually dangerous for Blai, and be able to pull them both out right away. 

Well? Is Blai...in fact volunteering to come? 

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Yes, of course.

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(Awwwwww. It's very good how he has the best Herald.) 

 

All right, he should - probably Mindspeak someone so the Healers don't freak out if they try to ask him or Blai a question and fail to get a response. Healers get really upset when that happens. 

 

 

And then Seldan does something like wrapping himself around Blai, and - steps in a direction that isn't anywhere, and - 

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They're in a bottomless blue expanse, strung with a web of silver threads. It's abstract and overwhelming, though Seldan seems to be able to read some meaning from it. 

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They aren't there for very long at all, though. Seldan barely has time to start to reach out - it's not very prayerful, mostly a mental shout of HEY YOU WE WANT TO TALK - and they're both, instead, in a place of soothing glowing featureless white. 

 

The Shadowgod is there. Looking the same to Blai as She did before, and appearing to Seldan as a rather plump older woman with a frizz of carroty-orange hair. 

 

"You aren't dead or dying," She says, conversationally. "I can use this place in other situations now. It is a much better way to talk." 

 

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He's not dying? That's news "Congratulations." The double vision is weird, though at least they both see women.

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Seldan is only half listening to that, because he's currently distracted by the fact that he's abruptly human-shaped!

And also, apparently, remembers his own name??? And his Companion, her name was Liora. And the year he was born, which was 188 by the Valdemaran character and it's bizarre to think that was more than six centuries ago. His father was a shoemaker. He had a sister. He...oh, that's disappointing, for a moment he had thought he remembered everything but it's still just - fragments, and not even that many of them. A few scenes, crystal-clear, and some autobiographical facts, and the rest is still blank. Which honestly makes it even more confusing in some ways! Why does it work like that! Did the Valdemargod deliberately erase some of those bits because it's not helpful for Companions to be, what, comparing backstories, wow that's so irritating. 

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Blai hasn't spoken to any of his family members in two decades and doesn't miss them at all but it seems to be distressing for Seldan - Seldasen? - why are the names so similar but not identical, what is the point of that? - that's not worth god-bothering about though -

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It's not exactly that Seldasen– that Seldan, he's just going to have to be in the consistent habit of thinking of that as his name - it's not exactly that he misses his family, it's just that - his memories are his, his life history is part of what makes him himself, and it feels like he has a right to that, or something. 

Well, at least now he can probably just ask the Palace librarian for all the treatises he wrote back then. 

(He's also not sure what the point of the slight name-garbling is, assuming it was even deliberate and not just the Valdemargod trying and failing to remember his name correctly or something, but it was enough to be a stumbling block before for tracking down his past work, and maybe the Valdemargod doesn't want Companions bringing along too much baggage about their pasts? And it's a little bit more obfuscation of the fact that Companions are reincarnated Heralds in the first place, which seems not to be common knowledge even though it seems bloody obvious to him.) 

 

- anyway, there were here to get some questions answered. 

"So what was the plan with Leareth?" Seldan leaves out the tempting curse-words. It seems worth trying to be civil even if the Valdemargod probably won't take rudeness personally. "I thought you didn't want him dead." 

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The Shadow-Lover looks at both of them for a moment, and one has the sense of - something behind that human-shaped facade, shuffling concepts, calculating, sorting through a few different branches of a conversational tree.



“No, I do not wish Leareth dead,” the Shadow-Lover says agreeably.

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“…But he is dead,” Seldasen Seldan points out. “So - how exactly would doing something to save his life been worse? Why in the world was it the best path to let Vkandis succeed at murdering him?”

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Again, there’s a pause, as though the Shadow-Lover avatar is puzzling it out, translating something, and translating an answer back.

 

 

”The best path is the one that achieves the desired outcome at the lowest cost,” She says. “There are two elements there.”

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“…So the thing you’re saying is that all else equal you - or the god,” because it seems important to remember, here, that they aren’t exactly talking to the Valdemargod, not directly, “- that the Valdemargod didn’t want Leareth dead, exactly, just - wasn’t willing to do anything to save him that would be expensive?”

It kind of pisses Seldan off! He’s not unsympathetic to the reasoning, in general - he wouldn’t be mad at Iomedae for it, who is after all the goddess of triage - but it matters a lot that Iomedae is trying to allocate Her limited resources to Good priorities, and…it’s not at all obvious to him that the Valdemargod is.

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"...or thinks Archmage Cottonet will come looking for me? Though that should be impossible to see - he's on Golarion -"

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The Shadow-Lover indeed seems to be drawing a blank at that.

“If it had not been going to work, then Vkandis would have done something else instead,” She says, slowly, after another long pause. “If We had intervened as you asked, it would have been expensive, and so it would have been visible in Foresight that We would act. Vkandis would have seen it and tried to counter it, and from there We could not see any further ahead to whether any of those paths would have a better outcome than this one. This was the only path that We could see through until the end, and now We can see better because Vkandis has no further power to steer." 

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That was...really a very cogent explanation, for a god attempting to communicate with mortals, and the Shadow-Lover has clearly gotten much better at this since the last interaction with Blai and is trying very hard, and also the Shadow-Lover is almost certainly not the part of the Valdemargod that made the decisions here, and so it isn't really fair for Seldan to be infuriated with Her. 

Unfortunately Seldan has never been a very patient person. He gets that making plans in a fog-of-war condition is agonizing, that's true for mortals too, it's just - if your choices are between the straightforward, predictable consequences of doing nothing and the inevitable messiness of moves-and-countermoves if you try to do something that an intelligent adversary doesn't want, then - it's kind of important, in terms of deciding whether the predictable outcome is acceptable, if the consequences of it include things like "tens of thousands of people dying and a much lower chance of getting any of those people back." 

"So you - I mean You the larger god - wanted Vkandis to get what He wanted here, just because He wanted it badly enough to spend everything on it, and it wasn't clear that You could actually stop him at any cost?" 

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Again, the Shadow-Lover takes a while to consider this. 

 

"It was not clear that We could continue to keep Leareth alive at any cost," She agrees. "But Vkandis will not get everything that He wanted." 

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Did that phrasing imply that intervention budget, itself, is the main thing that casts a prophecy shadow, or did Blai misunderstand... anyway he can respect the logic of "if all paths end with Leareth dead, choose the one that cripples his killer" but the collateral damage is absolutely ludicrous. Does the Valdemargod care about that? Perhaps literally not at all. Perhaps it's even a plus if that's an active ingredient in Vkandis being removed from the gameboard.

What did Vkandis want that He won't get? Leareth might not stay dead. Archmage Cottonet's wife the Arch-Healer Naima can bring him right back if their attention lands on the situation and they feel like it. Or some shenanigan with buying a a Sending from an inevitable will pan out and Fiducia Boian or his colleagues will do it. Vkandis probably also did not really want to exploding polity syndrome one of his countries though that at least he will have sacrificed lucidly. Is that all? That doesn't seem likely all.

"What else did Vkandis want?"

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Obviously Vkandis didn't get everything He wanted, one assumes He wants all sorts of things like continuing to have followers and not having the ruler of one of His countries poached by Sarenrae! …The Shadow-Lover probably isn’t being cryptic and frustrating on purpose and Blai is being very reasonable in just asking the obvious followup question, which might in fact be new information for the Shadow-Lover, maybe it’s not obvious to Her.

(Seldan’s parsing had been that the Velgarth gods don’t precisely have “intervention budget” like the Golarion gods do, and it’s more - if several different theater-actors were using the same set of very complicated and intricate strings to manipulate a set of marionettes, which is kind of what the Foresight-web in the blue place always reminds him of. It would be noticeable if one of them picked up a string and found it already under tension. …And maybe the gods can recognize when that thread-tension smells like the work of a specific other god? Seldan cannot do that, in the blue place, but he isn’t a god.

...Seldan agrees that it's not at all obvious the Valdemargod considers all the deaths in Iftel even slightly Their concern.) 

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Again, the Shadow-Lover seems to puzzle over that for a while, so apparently it wasn’t obvious.

“He wanted Leareth’s soul,” She says. “To destroy it fully.”

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…Shit. 

“- And You’re saying that He doesn’t have Leareth’s soul and can’t destroy it? Right?” 

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“No. Leareth died in Haven, where Vkandis does not have the strongest remit.”

Another long pause for something-like-translation.

“…That was delicate to arrange. But it was a small change in the picture that Vkandis expected. It did not require using so much steering-power that He saw it to counter it.”

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Okay! That is in fact really important! Good job, Shadow-Lover, finally managing to think to convey that one very important fact! 

Seldan keeps the snark to himself. “Thank you,” he says. Grudgingly, it's still tempting to be mad that the Valdemargod doesn't seem at all sorry about the other deaths and is mainly pleased that it didn't cost Them much in terms resources They could use, but - he does mean it.

There's been enough not-just-communicating-the-obvious-thing here that Seldan really should check, explicitly, with words. "Just to be clear, the thing You're saying is that You have Leareth's soul? In - safekeeping, for a resurrection if one becomes available? ...Do You see a path where Golarion contact will still happen and we'll get that?" 

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More processing. 

 

 

"There are many paths that lead there in the end," the Shadow-Lover says. 

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"If not Nirvana will take it. If you can - transfer it like that. I don't know if you can. ... please don't let him go on to trial if you cannot control his precise destination. He'd most likely go to Hell and be under the control of a god worse than Vkandis."

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Good thought, Blai, Seldan is very glad that was mentioned. Hopefully the Valdemargod would think to check something like that first but maybe it's another of the non-obvious things!

'In the end' is...well, the Valdemargod might not care if it took twenty years. Seldan is vaguely getting the sense that They might even prefer that to faster plans that cost Them anything. The new clerics are - a little more promising than that - it's a sign that at least some actors in Golarion are invested in things related to Velgarth.

...Shelyn picking Vanyel specifically might be even more promising, actually, insofar as it implies that She thinks this isn't completely pointless because Vanyel is going to die slowly before there's any hope of getting stronger clerics over for a more permanent fix. Does Blai think that's implied? Or is Shelyn maybe fine with Her new cleric dying in a week because She'll get him in Nirvana anyway? (Vanyel at least is someone who could probably safely go to trial, right, they know he reads Neutral Good?) 

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This time, while the Shadow-Lover does take a while to do the processing-and-translation-to-godconcepts bit, She doesn't seem surprised once She finishes puzzling it out. 

"Of course." A pause. "Abadar offered to buy Leareth's soul but We are waiting to see all of the paths clearly." 

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Abadar offered to what

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Yes, Blai will worry about Vanyel on an exclusively irrational basis if he dies.

Every religion encourages prayer. Prayer of thanks, of petition, of anything that pops into your head. Maybe it is literally just because gods are dense as fuck and need to hear very basic things from a million angles to stand a chance of communication occurring. ... that is probably not a complete answer but it's tempting right now.

"........ it's maybe all right to sell to Abadar if He does not mean to, ah, resell."

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This seems like something where the Shadow-Lover might, just maybe, have put any effort in advance into saying more detail, because it doesn't take that long at all. 

"Abadar intended to place Leareth in Axis and for it to be enriched, because Leareth is Lawful and builds things." 

A pause. 

"...Abadar did also offer to resurrect Leareth on another planet, if We pay for it, but it would be very expensive so that is not a preferred path. And We cannot see what would happen in either path, so We prefer to wait." 

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Wow yeah Seldan is really getting the sense that the Valdemargod is something of a miser and really, really, really hates paying for things, whether it's in "intervention budget" Golarion-style or some more nebulous godresource cost. And, maybe, They would rather wait and watch until They can see further ahead than the other gods, and do something small and targeted and clever that barely costs Them anything? Which - could take quite a long time, here, given that They can't see anything once it's in Golarion and waiting longer won't help with that? 

 

"...Can you ask Leareth?" he says. "I mean, Your whole thing is - talking to dead people, right? And hadn't you said to Blai before that You really wanted a chance to talk to Leareth specifically but he'd never died enough for it?" 

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"... if he were resurrected on Golarion on particular he could perhaps find his way back here. I'm less sure about other planets..."

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Another pause. 

 

 

"He will not speak to Us. ...One thing We cannot see ahead to is whether he would allow a resurrection by Abadar. He would need to consent to it. But We have not been able to ask him, even in this place, because he will not interact with Us at all." 

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...You know, on reflection that makes perfect sense. Leareth has pretty much the worst possible associations with gods! And was just successfully murdered by one and Seldan isn't sure what the Shadow-Lover's state-of-the-art is for talking to actually dead people, as opposed to nearly-dead people who still have bodies attached, but, like, plausibly Leareth's ability to remember any context about anything is about at the level of his own memories of his life as Seldasen? 

Seldan isn't sure what a resurrection feels like but he thinks it's true that someone needs to consent to it? And - yeah, if the thing it feels like is "a god would like to yoink your soul somewhere", he can't see a Leareth who doesn't understand what's happening going for that. 

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Yes, resurrections have to be consensual. "Can You let Abadar talk to him?"

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Seldan miiight be uncharitable here but he’s suspicious that the Valdemargod would refuse to try that because Golarion-god-interactions increase rather than decrease Foresight noise and They may be maintain control over Leareth’s soul until They can see how all the paths would play out and pick the one They like best with full information.

….Also, Abadar is a god, and not a formerly mortal one who can communicate better with mortals, and it’s not clear Leareth would be feeling any more trusting.

 

Hmm. But you know who Leareth has interacted with before and might actually kind of trust?

“Can You do something to let us try to talk to him?” 

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The Shadow-Lover considers this, but not for as long as one might expect if it were a completely new concept. "That can be done." She looks at Seldan. "You knew him, before, though he is less likely to remember it."

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Abadar is not limited to Golarion! Prophecy works fine in Axis, he's pretty sure!

...does Seldan remember that?

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(Huh, weird, the afterlife planes have prophecy and it's just the material plane that doesn't? It's still possible that the Valdemargod has low visibility of Axis-related happenings even if Foresight works in general, the Velgarth gods are very - geographical - and for example it sounds like They all had worse visibility of the area north of the mountains on this exact continent, just because it was unclaimed godterritory with none of Their followers around.) 

 

...Maybe? He definitely remembers thinking multiple times that Leareth reminded him of someone, and now that he's being allowed to remember even, like, a dozen scenes of his life and some names and dates– oh! There was that scholar in Rethwellan, the mage-philosopher-inventor type, who was not at all doing evil archmage things but the gestalt vibe he remembers of their correspondence is...reminiscent. If they ever met face to face he doesn't remember it, but he had a lot of Rethwellani pen-pals, Rethwellan just had vastly better academies and collegia - at the time, Valdemar was only a few hundred years old then, but maybe even now? - and nearly all of the interesting scholarship was being done there. 

"We can try talking to him," he says. "How does that - work?" Does Blai know anything about how it works in Golarion, presumably there's a way of communicating with dead souls if they can get sent to trial... 

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Processing.

"I will give him an imitation of a body for this place, so that he can speak," the Shadowgod says. "He should be able to understand you. He should remember the core experiences of his life. He should be able to think new thoughts in response to new information! Abadar and Sarenrae and Shelyn showed Us how to do that. He will not remember things that happen here; We do not know how to do that. It is possible something else is not working as it should. It is much easier to speak with other souls." 

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...Those sure are some constraints to try to have a conversation under but Seldan is game to attempt it. 

(Confirmation that the Valdemargod is in communication with all three of the Golarion gods known to have picked clerics in Velgarth! Another piece that seems relevant to them to know and non-obvious to the Shadow-Lover! The conversation is effortful enough that Seldasen is inclined to leave it for now and focus on whatever’s going on with Leareth.)

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The afterlife planes are not specifically attached to Golarion! Golarion is one of many planets in the material universe and the other planes do not privilege it. Velgarth is weird but to Blai's knowledge there are probably zillions of inhabited planets worshiping Abadar et al (Iomedae probably not that many, considering) and Golarion might be the only one that has broken prophecy.

Sending works on the dead, though he's not actually sure if souls in the River or at their trials can receive them, there might be time dilation or unconsciousness involved. Scries can work too and you can sometimes land a Message through a scry.

"If he can think new thoughts, but not remember them, how will his consent remain after it is obtained, if it is?"

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The Shadow-Lover does not seem to have found this problem obvious! She is doing the puzzling-over-it sort of pause again. 

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SO dense! How in the world do gods every accomplish anything even slightly complicated that involves mortals– oh right, normally Foresight actually works for Them, except when it doesn't, and it sure does seem like the godbehaviour observed since Blai's arrival in Haven is...indicative of flailing. 

Maybe the Shadow-Lover isn't expecting it to stick and would want them to come back and handhold dead-Leareth through consenting to a resurrection once one is lined up? Or possibly the Shadow-Lover is doing something egregiously terrible in Her attempted conversation-opening (...huh, this isn't important but it's occurring to Seldan that he doesn't have the slightest idea if Leareth would see Her as a man or a woman) and can be given some very basic social skills advice that will solve the problem?  

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"...There are state changes that are not memory," the Shadow-Lover says finally. "If We observe a state in which he will talk to Us, We may understand how to arrange it again." 

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"So You are seeking not just his consent to resurrection, but his consent to speak to You?"

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The Shadow-Lover, once this is parsed, is perhaps giving off the impression of confusion that this wasn't obvious. "Yes. We have wanted to speak to him for a very long time."

Another of the pauses, as though She managed to recognize that more explanation would be helpful but doesn't have it prepared yet.

"...If he is legible to Us, then his actions in the world will not blur Foresight for Us, and will be possible to cooperate," She adds finally. "It would be an advantage that the other gods do not have. It was one of the reasons why this was the best path. We did not expect it to be so difficult." 

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On the one hand some of that logic seems reasonable! ...On the other hand, wow, it's...very something...that the Shadow-Lover saw an upside to Leareth dying temporarily and getting the opportunity to poke his soul for a while. Ugh. 

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Well, maybe it's like when Blai was dead for a second and that really bothered Seldan but it was useful in the long run. Though Leareth is Rahadoumy. "He may not be interested in advantaging You, depending on what he believes Your goals are."

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The Shadow-Lover seems very puzzled by that one!

"...He does not know what Our goals are," She says. "Because he will not speak to Us. In the plan We had before you came to this world, when We could see the end of that path, he would have cooperated." 

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...Seldan is trying to remember exactly what context Leareth got on Blai's previous Shadow-Lover conversation. They did successfully send a message to him, right? They knew at that point that the Shadow-Lover was opposing the Star-Eyed Goddess and Vkandis, and the Shadow-Lover had wanted them to convey to Leareth specifically that the larger god was not blocking contact with Golarion and was in fact steering toward it? But that's hardly a complete accounting of the Valdemargod's goals, and Leareth might reasonably have been suspicious that it was a trick, and if he had time to realize what was happening, dying slowly and horribly could well have seemed like evidence that the Valdemargod had never really intended to try to cooperate. 

And also Seldan isn't entirely sure what it means that Leareth will remember the "core experiences" of his life, but if his current access to memories of being Seldasen is anything to go on, there isn't a ton of room to remember individual specific messages received. 

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"He may have beliefs about what Your goals are," Blai tells the Shadow-Lover, "without having spoken to You. He may not believe Your statements about your goals, even if he hears them."

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The Shadow-Lover seems to find that particularly effortful to make sense of and translate, and then She says, "There is information he should have," in a way that feels a lot more like a scripted Shadow-Lover line than a response to any genuine understanding of the problem.

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There definitely seems to be some kind of conceptual gap here. 

Seldan kind of feels like it's going to take forever to resolve this - confusion, or disagreement, or some mix of both - and while it seems almost certainly worth doing, so far the Valdemargod does seem to do better with more information and clearer understanding, it might be...a long-term project. And possibly one best accomplished by the Good gods that the Valdemargod is apparently already talking to and learning things from. 

It feels like they'll learn a lot more a lot more quickly by just talking to Leareth? Possibly being held prisoner by a god he thinks might have murdered him, while unable to form any new memories to the contrary, is just an intractable situation for Leareth to react cooperatively to and the Shadow-Lover should stop expecting it, in which case they can communicate that and...probably...the Shadow-Lover will take feedback? The Valdemargod does seem capable of that at all! At worst they might learn something and then need to relay it to Joshel or Vanyel or Karis who can pray it over to their respective Golarion gods and have them try to explain to the Valdemargod what They're missing here? 

...Seldan does not feel entirely unconflicted about this. It...has a bit of the feeling that he thinks of as "being a situation one could work into an example of a very interesting and gnarly ethical dilemma to write an entire treatise about", except that he hasn't written that treatise and has not at all reasoned in advance through all of his ethical considerations around talking to the soul of one's dead ally while said ally is arguably-being-held-prisoner by a god who does not seem to have as much of a grasp of things like "mass murder is a bad thing" as one would prefer. 

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If nothing else, perhaps Abadar will still be willing to emplace Leareth in Axis at a reduced rate on the assumption that he might take a resurrection after having some time to calm down while forming memories in an orderly fashion and maybe that would suit the Shadowgod fine. But talking to Leareth's soul first seems worthwhile.

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"We'll try talking to him," Seldan says to the Shadow-Lover. "...I don't know if this actually works, but if You can put him in here with us and then - back off a bit and give us some space at the start - that might go better." 

It probably won't give them any meaningful privacy, and Seldan expects that if he asks it would turn out that the Shadow-Lover is fundamentally confused by the concept of a private conversation or something. But Leareth might find the scenario less hostile if it's a little less blatant that a god is poking him to try to figure out how he works. 

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"We can do that," the Shadow-Lover says. 

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There is nothing at all, and then there is...something. It's very unclear what the something is, it's...not, exactly, a place. Nothing is familiar. 

There's a reflex for unfamiliar places and things not making sense. He reaches for...something that proves not to be there. 

 

- confusion - 

 

Slow, effortfully: ...he doesn't have a body right now. That would be why he has no experience of being somewhere in particular, and why most of the senses he expects to have are missing, and why he can't shield himself

 

- fear - 

 

Panicking won't help. That's a reflex that is entirely a thought, so it completes, and...then what? 

Make sense of it. Orient. That's a mental process, too, it doesn't technically require mage-sight.

Does he remember...before...here...? 

 

He remembers a name. Urtho. He...can't quite remember if he had a name.

He remembers...a tower, and the stars, and something beautiful and important there, and a promise. That's important. Hold onto that.

He remembers that Urtho is dead. A horizon going up in fire. The shattered ruins of a world. He remembers the decision to walk away from something he had spent centuries building, knowing he had followed that path as far as it would go and it wasn't enough. He remembers - the math, a moment of blinding realization that the logic held, the numbers that came together, the final, awful, clarity of the answer. 

(It's difficult, at this point, because there are things he can remember but it's difficult to remember them at the same time, and so he remembers that answer and has to struggle to retrace what it was an answer to.) 

Nothing but hints and fragments and the sense of centuries having passed, and then - clearer. A conversation with a young dark-skinned woman, her eyes worried yet defiant. Dodging an explosion in a city somewhere in the south. Announcing the final calendar to a room of faces: we move in twenty years' time. Carving a passage through the northern mountains, shielding it to keep it hidden until the time came.

...Standing in the snow, the army ready to move, with a silver-haired silver-eyed man clothed as a Herald-Mage of Valdemar, alone, blocking their path. A stumble, because nothing about that image makes any sense whatsoever including the lack of any memory of the intervening twenty years– oh. It - didn't really happen - the conversation did but the scene was window-dressing. A dream. A shared, lucid Foresight dream. Talking to the Herald of Valdemar. Vanyel. That was his name. He still can't remember his own name. Another memory, same visuals, a different conversation. Another conversation. Half a dozen fragments of those conversations, interspersed by a snippet of surviving another godassassination. And then it gets very confusing. He remembers - taking a report? On a prisoner? A single fragment infused with a feeling of searing importance, a critical decision: let him go. Send him back to the Heralds. Cooperate. Whatever it takes. Another conversation with Herald Vanyel of Valdemar, but the place is wrong - a waterfall, a cave - and it's real, and the man is there, the prisoner he sent back, and he's swearing an oath, and everything about the memory screams that this is the most important thing that has happened in two thousand years and he - can't hold onto it properly to understand why... 

He remembers the man saving his life. There's some scenery that doesn't really matter, and some more details that do matter but the complicated pieces are too hard to make sense of. Something about a god. New information. Something that changed everything. ...He remembers not being immortal anymore but that wasn't it, there was something else, something that changed everything even more than that.

He remembers dying, alone. Nobody coming. Realizing he had misjudged something, but no sense of piecing together the specific mistake, and too late for it to matter.

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It doesn't normally take nearly that long, when the Shadow-Lover gives a mortal soul the temporary substrate to have experiences, for something to cohere from it. It's normally almost immediate! Leareth's soul is very strange!

 

They've played this out quite a lot of times, though, and learned some things purely by trial and error, even if none of the setups resulted in Leareth communicating with Them, some were still worse than others. 

They wait for the shape of it to pull together, and only then place Leareth beside Blai and Seldan, and give him access to the additional substrate that imitates having a body's senses and ability to communicate. 

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The Shadow-Lover doesn't actually "know" what people look like. Normally, even when a soul is truly dead and no longer linked to a mortal body, it's straightforward to feed in the residual self-image. (Blai looks like himself to Seldan, though there's something dreamlike about it, the clothes he's wearing don't really make sense and the details blur when he looks too close.) 

This particular soul, who doesn't currently remember his own name - he's had a lot of those, too - really does not have a single coherent self-image of what he's supposed to look like, or what it feels like to be in a body. The Shadow-Lover's presence recedes somewhat and there's - someone - in the not-exactly-a-room with them, and there's a dizzying blur of faces like overlapping afterimages. 

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Something changed! There are...perceptions. Sensations. The place does not make any physical sense really but it is a place. 

 

There's a reflex for that. For surprising changes to his surroundings, and places he doesn't recognize, and not understanding what's happening. It...still draws on things that aren't there, and fails to complete. 

 

- disorientation - 

 

He knows the core of who he is,

- a vow on the stars - again and again no matter how long it takes -

and he knows that he was fighting the gods, and he remembers surviving and surviving, and not-surviving-but-coming-back-from, a number of god-attempts to destroy him. And then he remembers dying, and knowing that this time he wouldn't survive-to-go-back, and -

- he's dead. 

 

(Also some of the confusing sensations-and-perceptions include a perception of there being people nearby! But any instinctive-level reaction to that comes several steps ahead of the instinctive-level reflexes to orient and protect himself, which involve actions out of reach and so are failing to ever complete.) 

 

(slow, effortful) ...a god has him, then. 

Panicking still won't help, because there is almost literally no situation where it ever helps, but there - is not a lot of reasoning capacity available, to hold together the tower and the stars and the promise and knowing who he is, and then also hang onto the other important bits and pieces that he remembers (Urtho died, fighting gods, had a plan, Herald Vanyel, new information new information new information!!! and then he died, and a god has him), and to do anything less automatic than trying to react as he most naturally would to the situation and failing because none of his natural reactions work. 

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It's very confusing! Normally when you give a soul a bit of substrate to have experiences, it 'wakes up' and remembers who it is - normally it does that right away - and if it has a body-substrate to "hear" and "speak" with then it can react to the Shadow-Lover communicating with it and respond in the most natural way! Normally that doesn't even take the ability to have any new thoughts, most souls can have entire conversations with only the echoes of thoughts they had as mortals. 

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The overlapping distorted faces of dozens of lifetimes eventually cohere somewhat into - a child, maybe fourteen years old, who doesn't look like Leareth at all and does look confused and terrified. 

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Oh boy. "......Leareth?"

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The Shadow-Lover doesn't seem to be very good at this. 

 

...Leareth hasn't always gone by that name, Seldan thinks. Knows, actually, because at some point between the years 200 and 250 after founding (in the Valdemaran calendar, obviously the Rethwellani calendar counted differently) he was going by...fuck, what was he going by. Estappen of...Rie-something, maybe Riemar, Seldan is not sure he remembers it. 

They do, however, know Leareth's original birth name. It came up in the Companion gossip. 

"Kiyamvir Ma'ar?" he tries. And adds, just because he might as well: "We aren't going to hurt you." Will Leareth believe him just because he said that: absolutely not. But he might try to think about whether he believes them, it sounded like he should be capable of that with whatever the Shadow-Lover set up to make this conversation possible, and that's at least a fraction of a step toward engaging. 

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It's not exactly like hearing speech, or like Mindspeech, or like anything in particular, but - through whatever mechanism, there comes the perception that there are people who are trying to talk to him, and he can understand them. 

He failed to particularly parse what the first person said, because he was distracted by the confusing direct-perception that it's a person he remembers. Someone significant. It's - the sensory perception is weird, it's not exactly "seeing a face", and he flails at half-gripped memories trying to catch onto it. Urtho? No, there's some reason it can't - because Urtho is dead, that's why - but he's dead so maybe - 

 

...Oh. That was a name. Maybe that was his name?? It...feels like his name. 

Ma'ar in fact does not at all believe that they're going to hurt him because they said so. Why would that be related. But it's hard to think of how they could hurt him in any way that mattered, when he's already dead and a god has him. 

 

(His face coheres a little more. Still blurred, but - adult, now, a dark-haired man who also doesn't look incredibly like Leareth but does look like could perhaps be the grown-up version of the child.) 

Can he - answer? ...Apparently. It doesn't feel like speaking and it doesn't feel like Mindspeaking either, but something does seem to happen even if it's unclear how. 

"Yes," he says. "...I think." And then he seems to be trying to look at Blai. "...I know you. Are you Urtho?" 

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Wow. The Shadow-Lover really isn't good at this!

(Urtho died in the Cataclysm almost two thousand years ago. He was the child-Leareth's - Ma'ar's - teacher, and panicked and started a war with Ma'ar's kingdom over Ma'ar's use of blood-magic for infrastructure projects, and then panicked even worse when Ma'ar was winning said war and deployed some horrible magical weapons that caused the Cataclysm. ...Seldan isn't sure if Blai knew that. It came up briefly in the Companion gossip.) 

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That's good context to be reminded of; he thinks he heard the name but it was with a lot of other information. It's not unreasonable, if there were a normal afterlife setup they could catch up upon their respective deaths if they wound up in the same place.

"I'm not Urtho. I'm Select Artigas, I'm from another world. On my world spellcasters can resurrect the dead."

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That seems incredibly important! 

Ma'ar tries to make sense of it and - it's so hard to think when you're dead and a god has you - there's not enough space and now he's...lost track of something else that was also important. What was it. Tower and stars and a promise, he's got that. Cataclysm. He had a plan, he was going to...build something... A god killed him and now he's dead and a god has him. He has all of that and he has - someone claiming to be from another world and to be able to resurrect the dead - what was in the middle, that was also important... Herald Vanyel. Was important. 

"I know you," he says again. "You - helped me."  

His face is flickering again - there's some of the Leareth-face that Blai knows in it, now - but for this one moment at least, he seems more puzzled than terrified. 

"...Are you dead? Did the god kill you too?" he says after a moment, because that might at least answer the question of why this is happening now. 

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"No. My Companion here and I are both alive. We are - visiting, the Shadow-Lover, to see what She has to say, and She mentioned you."

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None of that makes any sense. 

 

(It might be possible to make sense of it, but he's trying to hold onto a teetering tower of six different elements that all seem really important for even slightly maintaining situational awareness – tower/promise/stars, Cataclysm, building something, Herald Vanyel, he's dead and a god has him, the person he knows is from another world and knows how to resurrect the dead – and on top of that he doesn't have any of his normal senses and can't shield and the space he's in makes no physical sense and so it's taking some mental discipline to continue not-panicking-because-it-won't-help.) 

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Before it did not seem like giving the soul more substrate to have thoughts and experienced helped and it might have made things worse! But Leareth's soul is interacting at all now, with the other mortals, just - doing it slowly - and maybe having more to work with will help. 

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...Abruptly it's a lot easier to hold onto the existing context. 

He tries to dredge up more. (His form and face are still fragmented and blurry, but he much more clearly resembles Leareth as Blai knew him, and not random other people he used to look like.) It seems like the most confusing part is how he knows the man from the other world. 

 

"...Are you the one I kidnapped?" he says, and then is abruptly succeeding much less at the not-panicking-because-it-never-helps. 

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Oh no he's really scared. Why is he scared, though, what– maybe he's not sure what order things happened in and thinks that maybe he kidnapped Blai after the part where they were allies and Blai helped him, and is making the natural inference that Blai might be mad about it? 

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"Yes, that was me. You let me go, it's all right."

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It's fairly easy to calm down. The man who he definitely remembers, who isn't dead and is just visiting, who apparently is Select Artigas from another world, and who knows - no, doesn't personally know but the world he's from has people who know how to resurrect the dead, hold onto that it's very nearly as important as the tower and the stars - anyway, he remembers Select Artigas as an ally. Someone who cooperated with him, who helped him, even when he didn't have to and it was very surprising that he did anyway.

He works on piecing the fragments of memory together. Herald Vanyel...was before that, long before, but also after it. They talked in a cave by a waterfall. Select Artigas was there, he...checked something...and Leareth can't remember what he checked but he does remember the relief, it was - a true thing about himself that he nonetheless had no expectation of being able to prove... 

New information, the most important thing– well, that makes sense now. It would be. 

And then something went wrong, but Select Artigas helped him - saved his life, not that it apparently mattered in the end - and then there was...reason to hope, he remembers the hope mostly because he remembers the surprise when it didn't last. 

 

"How did I die?" he says, sounding level and almost like himself. All he remembers is that he was alone and no one came to find him and he knew he had made a mistake but not what, there's absolutely no helpful context on what injury killed him. 

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"Iftel exploded. There was some kind of penetrating progressive damage. You Gated away and were hard to find so you did not get the benefit of my magic and Healers for the earliest part of the exposure."

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What. 

 

How - why - no, that part is obvious - except why never before and then now - what changed, it doesn't, surely even Vkandis wouldn't, but, just, why

 

"How - many - other deaths?" he manages to say, and then "Herald Vanyel...?" and then -

- there's a reflexive reaction that runs into a wall, a new different one, it's not trying to orient or trying to protect himself, it's a reaction to understanding something and to the reality being bad, it's a reaction for when an ally has a problem, except he...can't...because he's dead, and a god has him, and he had been planning to invent a Gate to the other world to - fix it, all of the other people dead at that point - but he can't do that, now, can he, even though he made a vow on the stars, he can't do anything to help right now because he died like an idiot

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Wow. Leareth is really...what was that excellent turn of phrase Blai had about Brightstar, before...Leareth is so 90% operational constraint by volume right now.

 

(Seldan is going to continue letting Blai do the talking, because Leareth apparently actually recognizes Blai and seems to trust him a meaningful amount, and the last time they met Seldan was a horse.) 

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"Herald Vanyel is alive. Bard Stefen is alive. Nayoki is alive. Some of your people died, I only have so many spells, but some Golarion gods," which is really not the right word, as it apparently misleads people into thinking they're Golarion-specific, but it's the best short disambiguating phrase right now, "have empowered more clerics and they're helping too."

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No, that wasn't actually the– well, it's good to know that Herald Vanyel alive, and Nayoki is - can he put a face to - yes, actually, and she's important and it's good that she survived, but. 

"In Iftel," he says. 

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...The actual answer, Seldan thinks, is that they have no idea yet. Thousands for sure. The rest depends on unanswered questions about whether Vkandis tried even a little bit to reduce the collateral damage, and if Karis as a first-circle cleric of a non-Vkandis sun god can do anything to help on a large scale. In the worst case he can imagine, it could be hundreds of thousands. 

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"We don't know exactly. Many."

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It would have to. 

And - his own people are one thing. He's upset, obviously, that it happened and that he can't do anything about it, but - all of them signed up for a war. A significant fraction, though not all of them, knew that their real enemy was the gods. And there were contingency-plans. Even caught completely unawares, as long as there were mages whose injuries weren't immediately fatal, plenty of people should have been able to get out. 

Random civilians in Iftel had no reason to expect their country would suddenly explode because their god wanted Leareth dead so badly. 

 

 

- it's almost certainly not why Select Artigas and...whoever the Herald is...are here. They know he can't fix it. It would be absurdly out of character for them to come talk to him literally just to shout at him for not preventing it, when that accomplishes nothing. 

He...can't remember if they said why they were here. Maybe they did, he just can't seem to remember things unless he puts them on the list of six things he's holding onto as hard as he can, and six things is already a stretch. And - there's still a loop that won't close, some kind of reflexive reaction to being in pain that he doesn't have access to, which is making it hard to - anything. He would at least try to avoid distracting them pointlessly by looking upset, but he doesn't have the faintest idea whether he looks upset right now, he isn't getting any kind of sensory feedback that would tell him.

"What do you want from this conversation?" he says. 

(He in fact looks incredibly distressed.) 

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...Seldan is really quite sure that his gnarly ethical dilemma to write a future treatise about does not resolve onto "stop having the conversation because Leareth is miserable", because that is absolutely not how Leareth in full possession of his faculties would want them to handle it, but he's, uh, noting this consideration. 

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"Bringing you back to life will require your consent. The spell won't work without it. The Shadow-Lover told us that you were too - disoriented? - for that to be likely and asked for our help to explain it to you."

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Oh. He thought they didn't actually have a way to do that without him figuring out a Gate but they must have found another way to do that. That's - good - it's actually mostly too big to think about properly - they must have already explained and he forgot. He doesn't seem to be very good at remembering anything for very long right now – in fact, he's pretty sure he just lost hold of some other important fact they told him because the question was so startling. 

"Being dead is very disorienting but I am not confused enough to not want to be alive," he says. "Obviously I consent!"

...Is that all? Now what happens? 

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"I don't know exactly how the Shadow-Lover's god means to have you resurrected. I still can't do it. The new clerics can't either. But apparently Abadar expressed interest in your soul, maybe there is some arrangement with Him."

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(This is abjectly terrifying partly because now Leareth's attention is fully back onto the fact that his soul is already in the possession of a god and it does not sound like Select Artigas and his allies in Haven actually have any ability whatsoever to change that, it sounds like his fate is entirely up to a Velgarth god and Select Artigas and the Herald can only talk to him at all on that god's allowance and he's trappedtrappedtrapped. But it's also terrifying that - he's not entirely making sense of the claim but a different god wants him and he can't remember any traits about that god other than 'presumably from the other world' – and 'not specifically the god that empowered Select Artigas as a cleric' now that he's been reminded by the term and dredged up more than literally zero context on it. He - thinks - he has evidence for believing that the god that empowered Select Artigas is - potentially an ally. Not that this would necessarily make it all that much less terrifying, the fear isn't happening on a reasoned level.) 

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....There has to be some way to convey to Leareth that this would not be the worst thing that could possibly happen to him, but Seldan is admittedly not sure how to do that, it would...benefit a lot from being checkable against things that Leareth can remember himself, but it's still deeply unclear to him how much Leareth actually remembers of the last couple of weeks specifically. 

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"...Abadar's the Lawful Neutral god of trade." He's not sure if Leareth was ever told that and certainly may not remember it now.

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Leareth does not really understand what that means, he's sure it makes sense and judging by Select Artigas' tone it's supposed to be reassuring, he just...is very impaired at reasoning from it at all, let alone having the result of his reasoning have any impact at all on being terrified. He's absolutely certain that he's just forgotten something else that was important and he hates it and he can't do anything about it because he's dead and stuck here until and unless the Shadow-Lover's god decides to do something else with him and– panicking is not helping stop it

"Why is Abadar interested in my soul and what would– what do you think he would be likely to do with it?" he says, surprisingly coherently. 

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"I don't know exactly. He might want to put you in the Lawful Neutral afterlife. I have heard that it is an enormous paradisical city and that the people there change relatively little from how they were in life compared to in any other afterlife. Or He might want to arrange your resurrection somewhere, which would explain why we are supposed to tell you about how the spell requires consent."

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Those are probably positive and reassuring things and Leareth is just completely unable to interact with that on an instinctive level because there's a god involved. ...This is stupid. New information. It's new information and that means it calls for a new reaction and - just - it isn't working. There's a motion that he's reaching for and it isn't there. 

 

Leareth summons an enormous effort of will, which...slightly works, as a mental motion...and forces his screaming thoughts into some kind of order. 

 

"You– insofar as you are doing this - on my behalf - should do whatever you have the power to do that achieves your goals," he says. "I - trust you - that the things you want are - priorities I would agree with. If you think Abadar is an ally you are probably right, I just - I think I cannot do anything that requires trusting a god. I think that is not something where - trying - will work. So you should figure the best plan that does not require me to feel a specific way about it. You have my consent to do that, whatever you decide it is. Obviously if you are not doing this on my behalf you are going to do whatever you wanted to do anyway."

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"...I do not know precisely what it feels like to be resurrected. It has never happened to me. That might be enough or it might not."

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He knows less than Select Artigas does and is impaired at thinking by being dead, he doesn’t have any better idea. He won’t try to micromanage and put in his own opinion on how low the estimated odds of success should be before they would conclude it’s not worth the risk of wasting an expensive spell. It sounds like it’s not fully in their hands, anyway, it’s up to the Shadow-Lover’s god whether to let go of his soul and make it available for resurrection at all, and if that god trades him to Abadar then presumably it’s up to Abadar.

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The Shadow-Lover was told unambiguously that this would go better if She gave them space, but it’s been quite a long conversation now and is adding up to a very substantial cost in substrate to let Leareth’s soul experience things.

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Ugh. 

The Shadow-Lover is getting impatient, he thinks where Blai can see it. And clearly still expects them to mediate a conversation between Her and Leareth, though if they say “no, not a good idea” it‘s not clear what She can do apart from cutting off their conversation privileges and pausing Leareth again.

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Oh. Uh.

"Can you talk to the Shadow-Lover? I think She has something to say to you that She couldn't get across before."

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It's not as though there's literally anything Leareth can do to prevent the Shadow-Lover from talking to him??? ...If the thing Select Artigas is asking for is to try to be cooperative and helpful because it's helpful for their plans in some kind of godnegotiation or something, he...will try. He's - not completely disoriented, he thinks, he knows who he is and, in some approximate sense, "where" and "when" he is, and he thinks he has a grasp on the key important elements of the situation, though he doesn't know how he died and he surely would have asked so it's plausible he forgot that at some point. 

"Of course," he says. 

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Seldan continues to have gnarly-ethical-dilemma-for-a-thought-experiment-in-a-treatise feelings about this entire situation, which is still interesting but definitely a lot less fun when it's happening in real life, to a specific person you're kind of fond of, and before you've actually had a chance to write a treatise and pre-think through your endorsed viewpoints at all

But - he is, in fact, fairly sure that the Valdemargod is going to keep trying to wake Leareth up and stick him in with the Shadow-Lover to try to get more angles on Leareth-legibility, and it's deeply unclear that they have any leverage to say "please don't do that, actually", and probably the Valdemargod literally can't perceive that it's unpleasant for Leareth and wouldn't care anyway. 

(...It's sort of confusing how unpleasant it seems to be for Leareth? In all the songs and legends and thirdhand supposed-personal-reports he knows about, meeting the Shadow-Lover is supposed to be nice. Blai definitely seems to be...more relaxed than usual, here? Seldan himself might not have noticed, he mostly doesn't find things very unpleasant in general, and he's mostly been angry here, which he's been accused of enjoying outright before and that's not entirely false.) 

- anyway, it's not going to go better without their presence and it might actually accomplish something productive. 

 

He tries to figure out how to tug back in Foresight to convey that, sure, might as well try it now. 

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It's unpleasant because it's from a god and Leareth has trauma about gods like how Blai has trauma about being thirsty and Leareth has prioritized avoiding his trauma object (reasonable, they were trying to kill him) instead of on coping with it. (Even Blai prepares Create Water every day, though he coped when he had his interregnum.) Maybe the relaxingness of the place works on anxiety and not on trauma and if Blai were managing to be thirsty here he would be upset about it?

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Maybe the Shadow-Lover has less - finesse - when it's a dead soul that needs a lot of complicated god-resource setup to experience anything, and it's just that this is easier with dead Heralds because there is all of that lovely existing mythology about how the Shadow-Lover will welcome your soul when you die and hug you and say you did a good job. There’s an an entire song about it and it’s, like, a romantic song. It also seems possible that the no-negative-emotions thing didn’t result in Leareth engaging and so the Shadow-Lover…experimented.

The circumstances of Leareth's death can't possibly have helped either, that's a thing. He was willing to meet Blai despite the cleric-of-a-god thing, he was willing to have a cleric prophecy spell cast on him, apart from freaking out about k'Treva and kidnapping Blai it seems like he's not actually so paranoid about gods that it interferes with his projects. But right now his most recent memory is of dying horribly to a godplot and not even knowing which god was responsible, a very recent trauma that he hasn't had time to do any coping about, and he can't form new memories and seems to forget things earlier in the same conversation if something distracting happens so he's certainly not going to figure out any coping now and have it stick. 

 

...Anyway, they can't change that, so there's nothing to be done except see how this goes. 

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The Shadow-Lover steps in, not from anywhere in particular, just there. 

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To Leareth, it...doesn't look like any specific person at all. Select Artigas and the Herald barely manage to look like specific people, but they're at least obviously meant to be, and there's - some of the quality that dreams have, where it feels like it makes sense until none of the details hold up. 

 

The Shadow-Lover as he sees Them is just - something like a pillar of light in the vague size and width of a human form. 

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....He knows who he is. He’s holding onto the tower and the stars and there’s another world with magic that can resurrect the dead and gods— with at least one god actually worth allying with. And he’s dead and a (Velgarth) god has him, but the god in question may not be completely unwilling to cooperate with his living allies and so having this conversation might be the only thing he can do, from here, that still matters.

So he needs to try. 

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“Leareth,” the Shadow-Lover says. “There is information you should have.”

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maybe he can't do this maybe it's hard and he's too dead

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- no, focus, trying to - anything - on purpose doesn't work very well but it's. possible. 

 

"I am listening," he says. He hopes he succeeded at saying that. It's hard to tell, there's no sensory feedback. 

 

(He's not entirely sure what the...point...is, he can't remember anything unless he's holding it in his mind continuously on purpose and with enormous effort and even then not for long, but - maybe it's not really about him. Maybe it's something that the Shadow-Lover's god needs to...test, while They have him in Their power? ...Doesn't matter. His allies have more context and they came here specifically to talk to the Shadow-Lover and so it's important even if right-in-this-moment he can't at all remember why.) 

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"You believed you would find no allies among the gods of this world," the Shadow-Lover says. "That was not unreasonable with the information you had. There are constraints on Us, and communication was limited, and it would have cost Us an advantage to make Ourselves legible, to you or to anyone, and so that was not the best path. We do not share all of the values you would share with Abadar, and there are things that matter greatly to you that We cannot see to interact with. You were not wrong, about that, or that it stood in the way of your goals." 

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....That was startlingly coherent and not-completely-missing-the-point for a Shadow-Lover explanation! Did the Valdemargod workshop this with every single Golarion god willing to speak to Them or something? 

 

Leareth in full possession of his faculties would be able to engage with that, Seldan thinks. It remains to be seen whether Leareth in this condition can, or - whether it will satisfy the Shadow-Lover of whatever She wants here. "There is information you should have" is kind of baffling when Leareth won't retain any of it for more than the next two minutes. 

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It has the sound of a stock phrase. She said the same thing to Blai.

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It sort of makes sense that there might be a script, as an alternative to very dense gods having to come up with lines on the spot, and Leareth is getting the script for "Herald souls that the Shadow-Lover catches temporarily and intends to send back" rather than the one for souls the Valdemargod is going to...store, or whatever...and put back later as Companions, because the Valdemargod does seem on board with sending Leareth back. Just not in a hurry. 

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Leareth is trying to make sense of it and put it in context and...can't, and knows that he can't...and one of the few things even worse than being trapped in a conversation with a god and having no way to leave and no way for his allies to get him out, is being trapped in said interaction and knowing he's failing at what the god wants from him. 

Break it down. It...would have compromised the god's plans to try to communicate to Leareth about them. Because - because they required routing around other gods, maybe, and any gesture of alliance toward Leareth would have been blindingly obvious? And - implicitly, that must not be true, anymore, since this conversation. 

...He should say it out loud, he won't remember this but Select Artigas and the Herald might. 

"If You had done anything to communicate to me that You were - not my enemy - then other gods that You wanted to...trick...would have seen it coming?" he said. "Is that what You meant to say?" 

Pause. 

"...I had intended to break what You just said down to think about in pieces but I cannot remember any of the rest now," he admits. There's a very loud screaming instinct that it's not safe to reveal weakness when he's trapped and not in control and he tries very, very hard to ignore it, it's enough of a struggle to finish any thoughts without wasting some of his thought-capacity on useless panic. 

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That was - impressive, actually, Leareth is clearly finding every moment of this awful but he's listening and making sense of it. 

 

Companions have eidetic memory. Seldan can repeat all of that back with no effort at all.

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"Is there no way to get him any more memory capacity?" Blai asks the Shadow-Lover.

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The Shadow-Lover looks at Leareth. “We are not sure if that is the problem. It should not be. We are spending much more on this than We would for most souls.”

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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa Leareth is doing something wrong and he has no idea what it could be or how he could be remembering things more efficiently - well, he does, if he stopped being SCARED, but none of the reflexes for “stop being scared” are working and that isn’t just a memory problem, it’s something else - he would strategize about it but he’s probably already lost track of half of the constraints and he’s definitely completely dropped everything that the Herald just helpfully tried to remind him of aaaaaaaaaaaa

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The Shadow-Lover is still watching Leareth, faintly puzzled.

“The thing that goes wrong is going wrong again now,” She says to Blai. “He is using all of the mind-substrate but not interacting.”

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"He's frightened. Of gods." This is not objectively a very kind thing to point out right in front of Leareth but the Shadow-Lover seems, well. Dense. And might be confused about this. "The thing you do to make emotions less immediate isn't working on that for some reason."

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(No, it’s fine, to the extent he’s still following at all - no one is talking to him anymore but surely the Shadow-Lover would just not let him hear and understand it if he wasn’t supposed to - he’s grateful to Select Artigas for pointing out something obvious, that might not be obvious to the Shadow-Lover, and it would never have occurred to him to explain it but the reasons don’t really make sense. It can hardly make him any more vulnerable than he already is. Better to avoid the god being confused. Confused gods are ALSO scary.)

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The Shadow-Lover…seems to find this surprisingly difficult to translate. There’s a long pause.

”There are several different things that We tried doing differently to see if it would go better,” She says eventually. “That must have been one of them. So it was not any better the other way.” A pause. “We did ask your advice as a mortal. Do you think it would go better if We changed that back?”

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He doesn’t want the god to be randomly modifying which abilities-to-think-and-experience he can access as an experiment!!!! …Maybe none of the reasons are good reasons, though, he can’t actually manage to look at it directly through all the internal screaming. He will let the less-impaired people figure it out.

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Does that imply that the Shadow-Lover LITERALLY CANNOT FORM MEMORIES. What the FUCK.

"You have not yet tried the combination of having us here and having the calm emotions effect on him. It might work."

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(The Shadow-Lover is a specialized interface and does not normally have any need to vary the format like that! And has definitely never needed to have a meta-conversation, with an entirely different mortal in an entirely different mortal-interaction-thread, about the relevant-in-mortal-concepts setup details of an earlier and now-closed thread! There is a lot that needs to be translated, and having a single interaction 'space' with three mortal-interaction threads is already more of a strain than nearly all of what the Shadow-Lover does.) 

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Seldan is absolutely getting the feeling that Leareth doesn't want this, but it's probably a manifestation of the underlying "Leareth doesn't want to be dead and housed by a god he has no memory of being allied with and having experiences at all only on that god's whim", and on a logical level Leareth, with his full faculties, probably wouldn't see this as a different and worse kind of invasiveness? And Leareth did tell them very explicitly that he was consenting in advance to whatever they thought was a reasonable plan. So...okay, good, Seldan doesn't think he has any ethical objection in context, though that's probably getting an entire chapter in the hypothetical treatise. 

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Leareth is no longer finding it unpleasant to be terrified. Leareth can go on having all of his habitual reactions including being terrified of gods, it's just that he can no longer find any of them distressing or painful. 

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That is incredibly weird. 

 

...Without finding any of the thoughts unpleasant, he thinks, slowly and calmly, that he can see why this would have done the opposite of help if he was starting from zero! He...did he know before that the Shadow-Lover had repeatedly tried conversations like this before but without his allies there? He doesn't remember, obviously, but they clearly knew, or weren't surprised by it. Maybe they told him earlier and he forgot it, like everything else. 

The main source of mental pressure-to-do-things is gone and he's...not particularly breaking himself out of the loop of 'trying to think about what he might have forgotten, failing to find any trace of it.' He does have the thought that this isn't making progress but the frustration has no power to move him. 

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At least he no longer looks like this is the worst possible thing that could be happening to him. 

 

...Seldan tries repeating the Shadow-Lover's opening speech verbatim again. 

"You believed you would find no allies among the gods of this world," the Shadow-Lover says. "That was not unreasonable with the information you had. There are constraints on Us, and communication was limited, and it would have cost Us an advantage to make Ourselves legible, to you or to anyone, and so that was not the best path. We do not share all of the values you would share with Abadar, and there are things that matter greatly to you that We cannot see to interact with. You were not wrong, about that, or that it stood in the way of your goals."


"And you spent some time thinking about the cost of the god making Themselves legible," he adds. "You said, verbatim, 'if You had done anything to communicate to me that You were not my enemy, then other gods that You wanted to trick would have seen it coming?' and asked if that was what the Shadow-Lover meant, which She didn't object to, and then you asked to hear the rest again." Maybe that was too much information and he should repeat just the rest, again, too...

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Okay. This is an important conversation to have and he remembers that phrase without...actually...being able to really figure out what that means, but he can do that.

 

"The claim is that Abadar shares more of my values than You do," he says, and then - stops, and seems to think this over, though it's not entirely clear if he's focused on that or just...drifting. 

He was apparently doing something, though, because after a long pause he goes on, haltingly. "The implication - is that - Abadar shares many of my values. And - that You still share - some." 

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"We believe that is the case and it was information that We thought you should have," the Shadow-Lover says agreeably. 

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Next bit? 'You were not wrong, about that, or that it stood in the way of your goals?'

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He stares at that for a while. 

"I cannot figure out why that is information You wanted to tell me," he says finally. "I know that." 

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Does the Shadow-Lover's religion encourage prayer. It really should. She's so so dense. Is She reading his mind, should he be schooling his thoughts more.

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Seldan has never heard of anyone praying to the Shadow-Lover while alive! If he asks himself the question he gets "why would that work, She isn't listening yet". The Shadow-Lover...component, or whatever She is...of the larger god, seems to do exactly one very specific thing. (Not completely terribly! He never heard that Vanyel came back from his long chats with a godheadache.) 

Seldan isn't really sure what the point is, from the god's perspective, of the conversations with actually-dead souls rather than ones "passing through the shadows" who She intends to toss right back after giving them some cryptic hints that - judging by Blai's confusing earlier conversation - seem to usually be crafted entirely out of scripts and the resulting Foresight footprint.

It could be trying to get visibility on mortals, or it could just be categorizing Her favorites for future Companion stock. It seems like a bigger problem is the translation between the Shadow-Lover piece and the entire rest of the god. He gets the impression that some genuine effort is happening in that direction right now! It's clearly not automation. Maybe before all of this recent eventfulness, the Shadow-Lover was tasked with reviewing all the dead people's souls and taking notes on future reincarnation, and just...did this independently? He's theorizing wildly here, to be clear, this is definitely not known religious doctrine or anything. But it makes some sense of why it might be convenient for the Valdemargod to have the songs and mythology about how the Shadow-Lover is nice and will hug you, without having much in the way of a structured temple order or standard religious doctrine like Vkandis has. 

 

 

...Anyway, he had interpreted the bit that Leareth is confused about as an...awkward attempt at an apology? It's a terrible apology, though, so it's no wonder Leareth didn't catch that. 

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Blai is not confident of that interpretation at all and if Seldan thinks it's likely he should be the one to advance it aloud.

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'Apology' might be putting too human a cast on it, but he'll try advancing his theory in more carefully chosen terms, now that Leareth is less capable of being spooked by more people talking at him. 

"Leareth, my interpretation is that She wants you to know that She understands that you have specific values and goals, some of which the god doesn't share and some of which They mostly don't understand or can't see well enough to engage with, and - to acknowledge that Her decision or the larger god's decision to be mysterious rather than communicating with you is something that caused you problems." 

He turns to look at the Shadow-Lover. "This part wasn't included, but - is it also true that You intend to do better in the future, now that you have all these lovely Golarion gods who understand Law and Good and things like that to be your advisors? Just so you know, if that is true, it's very relevant information to include for Leareth's clarity on the situation." 

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The Shadowgod is getting advice from - is that new information or did he hear it and forget it? It's important, if it's in fact true. Leareth stares in bemusement at the mental motion of 'noticing that he might have forgotten something important' running without any accompanying jolt of panic. 

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Translating translating translating.... 

 

"This is - significantly true," the Shadow-Lover says finally. "We intend to plan and act differently, now that Our resources and constraints are very different. Vkandis will no longer be relevant. That is a constraint removed. Shelyn and Sarenrae and Abadar will provide Us with more ability-to-steer to the extent that We act in ways compatible with Their aims. That is a new constraint. We will choose paths when they are best for Us, not because they are best for you, but We think that more of the paths open to us will be ones that you approve of. We are pleased with this result, because you are a powerful steering-force in your own right, and it will cost less for both of us if we cooperate openly in those cases where We desire the same path as you." 

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It's not very...hinting that the god cares at all about murder being bad, it's not Good, but - it has to be the case that Someone Lawful - so, Abadar? - coached the Shadow-Lover on a bunch of those concepts, even if the putting-them-together was ad-libbed and not part of the starting script. He's not sure why this feels so true, just - there's something very, very Law-flavored about the careful disambiguation of where Seldan's proposed sort-of-apology script was or wasn't accurate. Does Blai see it too, or is Seldan pattern-matching wrong? 

It sure is a good thing that Blai had such excellent advice for the Shadow-Lover earlier about which of the Golarion gods would be friendly and helpful! Since it's working out so well for the Valdemargod! (Seldan is thinking that very cheerfully and loudly, and also notthinking about less cheerful things.) 

Honestly, knowing Leareth, an explanation conveying an understanding of Law might be more reassuring that one that claims Good motives. 

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There was some distant shadow of Law in that statement, now that Seldan mentions it; Blai did not twig to it at once because it was under a layer of god-dense-ness. It's not "let's sign a treaty" but it's maybe "we're looking forward to a ceasefire"?

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Velgarth may have low standards when it comes to Law.

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It...makes sense? Insofar as he can make sense of it without quite being able to fit all of the concepts in relation to each other in his mind. It's not surprising that the Shadow-Lover's god doesn't agree with him on everything or intend to defer to him on value judgements, that would be a bizarre thing for a god to do and so a claim of intending to do it would be suspicious and confusing. 

Communication and deliberate cooperation would be - better. He can't really...engage with it, right now, it's too far away from the current being-dead reality, it requires being someone capable of remembering the agreements they made, and he can barely hold onto concepts that are right there in his face. But it's - good news - if it's true. He will just have to trust his allies to be maintaining an assessment of the Shadow-Lover's truthfulness.

(He's aware that he's probably hanging more hope on his allies, who he remembers rather little about, than he might endorse if he had all the information and the ability to think about it properly. But what else is he going to do? That's what he has to work with. If they don't negotiate for his resurrection, and the Shadow-Lover's god holds onto him, it's not like he's going to remember this conversation to feel betrayed that no one came for him)

 

"I think I understand," he says, slowly. "You are interested in limited cooperation, only on goals we share, and are not conveying an intention for more than that, but You believe that if I am - alive - I will prefer that to the way it was before, and this will benefit You as well as myself." 

Another pause "You - are likely to be right."

...He seems to be looking uncertainly at Blai and Seldan, as though not entirely sure that he’s retrieved his sense of self in enough fidelity to actually know what he would do. 

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“I should certainly think so,” Seldan says cheerfully. “You can be a ruthless bastard, but - you’re consistent. We don’t know you to ever have lied about your intentions, and if someone gives you even a crumb to work with, you try cooperation, even when your priors are very strong that it won’t work.”

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That does sound like - a set of principles he would consider correct to try to follow? It’s just…hard to be sure what claims he can confidently make about himself and his character, when he remembers so little of his life.

 

 

He stands there blankly for another long moment. 

"...Did we know one another?" he says to the Herald, puzzled. "You - are not like most Heralds." 

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Ah. Ahaha. 

 

"...It's complicated," Seldan says. "We met briefly before you died, but I was a Groveborn Companion at that point. Select Artigas' Companion, actually." Fond smile. "Before that - a long time ago, multiple incarnations ago for you - we were...friends. You probably don't remember it, but I was Herald Seldasen, and you were a scholar in Rethwellan. ...I would say I knew you quite well, then, even if I didn't know your - history." 

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Oh. 

(Select Artigas has a Companion? That - but he can't be Valdemaran, if he's - wouldn't that be– it probably does't matter. Maybe they explained everything already and he forgot.) 

 

"I - wish I remembered," he says. 

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Awwww. 

"I'm sure it's in your notes," Seldan says. 

 

And then, since dead-Leareth with negative emotions suppressed actually seems more impaired at...anything goal-directed...he looks at the Shadow-Lover. "Did you get everything you wanted from him? Is there more?" 

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The Shadow-Lover turns to Leareth. 

"We do have a question that We wish to ask,” She says.

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Leareth…tries to find the will to make an effort and concentrate. It mostly isn’t working.

“I will do my best to answer,” he says.

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“One of the paths available is that We give your soul to the god Abadar in the other world, in exchange for resources that We can use here,” the Shadow-Lover says. “But We cannot see where that path ends or whether it is good for Us. What would you do?”

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(The - emotion, it’s hard to tell what it would even be - doesn’t feel like anything, but it’s there.)

 

Is he supposed to have the slightest idea who Abadar is???? Maybe that was explained and he forgot????

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“The Lawful Neutral god of trade,” Seldan reminds him. “You discussed a claim by the Shadow-Lover that Abadar’s goals have significant overlap with yours. Which would be why He offered to buy your soul in the first place, I imagine. I have the impression that’s especially important for Golarion gods.”

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“…I think I do not have enough information to answer the question,” he says. “It seems likely it would - mostly be up to Abadar.”

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"I unfortunately do not know what Abadar does with souls He buys or what He would have in mind for yours specifically, only the guess that He might emplace you in Axis, the paradisical city Lawful Neutral afterlife in which He dwells."

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The problem is that Leareth has absolutely no idea how anything works, or what the Shadow-Lover intends to do differently based on his answer to this incredibly underspecified question. 

...The Shadow-Lover's god...might...care about whether They get anything from the hypothetical Leareth-cooperation if he goes to Axis. That...would make sense. 

(Thinking is still very slow but he's at least not losing threads of it to random terror.) 

There's something he doesn't remember. About...why...it was especially bad for him to die before - before what? Before doing something. Leareth dredges at fragments and - he's stuck here in the possession of a god and keeps reminding himself that his allies can't personally get him out and that's - because they don't have access to a spellcaster who can actually do the resurrection. Which - also has other ramifications - Leareth wasn't the only one dead... 

 

"- If the question is, whether I would - come back to Velgarth?" he says haltingly. "I think that I would try? In - most scenarios - if there were an emergency that threatened millions of people, I might stay for that? That...seems unlikely in a paradise afterlife? So. I think I would try. Whether I succeed would...depend on whether someone in that situation is actually allowed to leave?" 

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Well, Blai did mention there were afterlife police. Would they stop Leareth from Gating to Velgarth– would Leareth even be able to do magic, he thinks he remembers picking up in Blai's memories that clerics don't still have their spells once they've been sorted to their afterlife, even if it's the same one their god is in? 

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People generally do not have magic in the afterlife, no.

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Seldan isn't exactly sure of the logistical setup of afterlives, but it sounds like Leareth-in-Axis would have something like a body - not literally his old body with its Gifts, but more than what he has right now, he would be able to think properly and take actions normally - and his (vague) understanding is that Leareth would at that point actually remember what he knew when he died, with the attendant effects on his priorities. But wouldn't actually have any way to get out of Axis and back to Velgarth quickly, unless Abadar decided to resurrect him in Golarion for whatever Abadar-reasons - it would take a True Resurrection, presumably? if Leareth's soul is available but his body isn't? so, yeah, unlikely that Abadar would do it without expecting payment from someone.

And...probably...Abadar wouldn't stop them from doing their own resurrection on the grounds that He had paid for that soul and it was His now? That feels un-Abadar-like, not that Leareth right now would necessarily be reassured by that character assessment. Leareth wouldn't be cut off from Velgarth forever, just - not in a good position to solve their current problems. Which the Shadow-Lover seems unworried about, but there are time-sensitive elements, like everyone in Iftel who's alive right now but won't make it until spring, that the Valdemargod gives no indication of caring about, but that Leareth was clearly upset about during the brief interval when he was filled in on the Iftel context. (Seldan is pretty sure that Leareth dropped that at some point. It doesn't seem productive to remind him.) 

...That's a lot of uncertainty and caveats to throw at a very disoriented Leareth. 

"Your Gifts probably wouldn't accompany you to Axis," he says. "It wouldn't be as easy as researching a Gate-routing. But you wouldn't be a prisoner there. And Abadar would value trade between Velgarth and Golarion, in the long run. I can't see that He would - feel He hadn't gotten what He paid for - if that was the project you chose to work on." It would take a long time, but the Shadow-Lover isn't the one who's in a hurry. 

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Why does Abadar even want his soul if it won't include his magic He's missing way too much context for it to make sense to reason about that. 

"I would try to come back," he says, with slightly more certainty. "My work is not done in Velgarth." 

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The Shadow-Lover seems satisfied by this. 

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....Seldan is abruptly getting a Foresight-tug feeling that this conversation is wrapping up. 

He's not sure what the Shadow-Lover is taking away from it, or whether there's anything important that She's too dense to have thought to ask Leareth about. It does feel like they've learned that resurrecting Leareth on their end, if they somehow get a cleric for it, might not be as trivial as hoped, but in fact they don't have a cleric for it or any way to get one yet and so it's hardly the main obstacle. 

He has a tangle of unformed objections to the situation, mostly the part where they're leaving Leareth's soul here with a god who seemed inclined to keep poking Leareth and does not seem to have any understanding of aspects like "the reason this wasn't working like the Shadow-Lover expected before is that it's awful for Leareth." But it's not as though it's going to damage Leareth in any enduring sense, it seems like there might be literally no way for the Shadow-Lover to give Leareth any new trauma, so it's just...unpleasant experiences that have no causal effect on the future. Seldan needs to do a lot of unpacking on whether he cares about that, but he kind of suspects that Leareth doesn't. 

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It seems probably bad in the same way that it is bad for someone to spend some time in Hell even though they won't remember the details if they are raised later but they do not really have an angle on this. Well, it's probably cheap to try telling the Shadow-Lover, "Please be kind to him." That won't work probably but still.

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The Shadow-Lover does seem to listen to this very seriously, but it’s indeed unclear what if anything was successfully communicated.

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It might not go anywhere, Seldan thinks, but they do maybe have the angle of asking the new clerics to pray to their respective gods about it, and maybe one of Them can try to explain to the Valdemargod it’s actually a bad thing to subject souls in Their keeping to unpleasant experiences even if said experiences are pretty epiphenomenal to future outcomes (and thus presumably invisible to Foresight, which would make some sense of why the Shadow-Lover is so dense about it.)

“If You do end up having a plan for a resurrection and can get a message to us cheaply, we can come back and help him be oriented,” Seldan says. 

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Leareth can’t think of anything else he wants to ask about, if he’s neither going to remember it nor have any angle to act on it. He’ll just…wait to stop existing. 

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No more Leareth.

 

“You may stay and rest here as long as you wish,” the Shadow-Lover says.

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Does that actually cause time to pass in the real world? Because they might as well just wait out as much time as it takes before Blai is wanted for more spellcasting, if so, but if not then he has no particular agenda here.

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It doesn’t seem to make very much additional time pass in the someone-is-almost-dead scenario? When Blai spoke to the Shadow-Lover solo, it all took at most a minute or two from Seldan's perspective. 

...Does Blai want hugs from the Shadow-Lover again? Seldan doesn't really because he's mad at the Shadow-Lover right now for being about as dense as a rock, but he could go back alone if Blai wanted some private Shadow-Lover cuddles. 

(Seldan also wants to snuggle his Herald but not while he's shaped like an old man, that makes it feel really weird.) 

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Blai does not particularly feel the need for Shadow-Lover cuddles. Also he's not sure how to stop being here without Seldan helping or the Shadow-Lover shoving him back into his body. They can go.

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Seldan does think he has the ability to step back to the material world from here - it feels like if he does this– 

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Oof. Ooooooooooooooof. Whyyyyyyyyy did he forget about the part where they're slowly dying and this is spectacularly unpleasant. (No godheadache, and actually he doesn't feel the scattered half-out-of-body strangeness from before, the Shadow-Lover really does seem better at something here. But all the symptoms are back, and hitting him like a landslide after the intermission of not feeling terrible.) 

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ooooough yeah this is bad this is why it would be cool if they coulda skipped a couple hours of it.

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A little while later Shavri will want Blai's last Remove Sickness on Nayoki. That's everyone, now. She's saving his channels for last; in the interest of checking how many channels they, in fact, have, she's planning to have Van use up all of his first, at three-candlemark intervals. If they get to a point where she knows they only need two more channels to last until dawn, there's enough of an organized relief operation on the Valdemar-Iftel border now that they should be able to Gate Joshel there and productively soak up his remaining channels before dawn. Karis left to, presumably, clean up things with the Karsite priesthood, and Shavri is just going to trust that she'll find some way of using her channels before dawn and it's not Shavri's problem to handle those logistics. 

 

...Actually, none of this is going to be Shavri's problem for a little while, because at this point it doesn't seem like there are any real decisions to be made before dawn tomorrow. She's going to go get some sleep. Nearby, so they can grab her quickly if anyone starts deteriorating faster than expected and they can't figure out what's wrong. 

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Joshel rotates through who he's supposed to be casting Virtue on every minute. Tap, tap, wait for his Companion to cue him again. It's mind-numbingly tedious. Eventually it ends up automatic enough that he can sort of review paperwork in snippets. 

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Eventually it occurs to Seldan that he can, in fact, just...ask for the non-incapacitated contact person from Leareth's organization to come be in the room, at which point it would no longer feel completely impossible to pass on a report from their Shadow-Lover chat. 

They get Dara in too. 

 

Okay, so what did they learn? 

The Shadow-Lover's god has Leareth's soul, which took some fairly minimal intervention because Vkandis wanted it; the larger intervention needed to keep Leareth alive would have...tipped Vkandis off, or something, and then Vkandis might have tried something even more horribly creative, and in fact Seldan can sort of understand the argument for not waiting to see if, for example, He would have targeted Haven if Leareth was at some point there. 

The Valdemargod is in communication with the Golarion gods that picked some clerics here, and maybe other Golarion gods. It came up that Abadar specifically really likes the look of Leareth's soul and was interested in paying to have him put in Axis, the Lawful Neutral afterlife; resurrecting Leareth on another planet was maybe also in the cards? But Abadar wasn't going to do it for free and the Valdemargod is kind of miserly about paying for things. 

The Shadow-Lover asked them to talk to Leareth's soul, which is apparently a thing. Leareth's soul was - very disoriented - and they came away not fully sure if he would be capable of consenting to a resurrection if it felt at all like "being scooped up by a god". The Shadow-Lover had the following "information" for Leareth, as verbatim as Seldan can recall it. 

Leareth is having a pretty bad time to the extent he's having any experiences while in the Valdemargod's possession, and they don't have very many angles to do anything about this but it might help to ask the clerics to pray to their gods about it. 

 

(Does Blai remember any other key pieces that Seldan is forgetting?) 

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Seldan remembered his former name in there at one point, it was Seldasen, but that's not really important to pass on to third parties as far as Blai knows.

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Yeah, and Seldan isn't currently feeling at all up for reading his old treatises. 

 

- oh, it also came up that Vkandis is broke now, which seems to have been a plus for the Valdemargod and also means that Karis can expect not to encounter any opposition from Vkandis directly if she wants to go do things in Iftel – plenty could go wrong anyway, it's still a difficult problem on a purely human-social-political level, but it at least implies that Vkandis won't be sending visions to the surviving priesthood asking them to murder Karis or whatever? 

It...didn't come up what the Star-Eyed Goddess is up to, Seldan doesn't think? Does Blai remember anything about that? Maybe She was just already pretty broke and the Valdemargod was mostly worried about Vkandis-opposition? 

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Blai doesn't remember that coming up, no.

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Seldan is wishing he'd thought to ask now, the Shadow-Lover seems confused enough about everything that She might not have thought to warn them, but - overall it seemed like She was trying to be helpful, just really quite incompetently. So it's some evidence, that She didn't warn them. 

Overall it seems like the Valdemargod is in favor of interworld contact and just not at all in a hurry to make it happen. They might also be actively in favor of Leareth being alive and taking actions in Velgarth? But did not technically say it explicitly, Seldan doesn't think. 

 

...That's all Seldan has for now from the Shadow-Lover conversation. Though come to think of it he had another mental note to ask about diamonds and whether they have anything in motion to supply those. They can't use them for resurrections directly but Blai had a different idea that might work. Or might just waste diamonds, they're not sure, but he figured he would toss the question to them, they know better than he does whether they can afford to potentially waste diamonds on a plan that only might work. 

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They will take that into consideration. 

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Okay good that's Seldan's part covered, he's going back to sleep now. 

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Mood.

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Karis obtains a Gate to Sunhame from one of Leareth's mages. The report she got from Dara amounted to "we think the Heartstone probably won't explode, and Vkandis is almost definitely out of godresources to smite you over leaving Him for another god."

It’s the shortest route to where she wants to go. Karis…doesn’t think she’s being reckless on purpose, that would be stupid, and she had better not waste her new goddess’ generosity by being stupid. But she finds that she doesn’t have a lot of patience for being cautious and tiptoeing around the situation. She wants to be in Iftel before dawn tomorrow, and it would be wronging her people in Karse to forge off into the north without even trying to stabilize what she’s leaving behind. So: Sunhame.

She left for Valdemar less than two weeks ago. It feels like years. Sunhame feels like a child’s rose-tinted memory.

 

Karis arranges a meeting. Every glimpse of the Sun-in-Glory hurts, but she has the dignity not to let it show.

It's more an abstract background awareness than anything, that the thing she's trying to do here is very, very hard, and maybe in most worlds she fails. Sarenrae trusted her with it, but Sarenrae can't carry her through. 

But...it doesn't feel like she's among enemies, here, surrounded by the iconography of Vkandis emblazoned in gold. It feels like she's among frightened children; it feels like she's a frightened child herself, left alone in the dark with her brothers and sisters, trying to be brave. 

There were rumors, of course. Karis confirms that the worst is true: the barrier around Iftel is down, and there are forest fires where it used to be, and it seems likely that the Sunlord - fought a battle, of some kind, and lost - and He gave her no direction, either before or after. 

(Sola is with Arven right now, still in Haven. Karis had a painful conversation with the Suncat, and came away with the impression that Vkandis had given her no direction either, but...she didn't, quite, trust that it would go better to have Sola with her for this, even if it would have helped her credibility.) 

 

When she explains that she was chosen to serve another world's sun god, she leaves open the interpretation that it could have been a result of Vkandis calling for aid. She doesn't actually know that it wasn't, and...in that moment, it doesn't feel like a lie to leave out that she rejected Vkandis in anger first. She can't find any anger in herself now, only a deep and bottomless sadness. 

The sun god of another world gave her a miracle of healing, she explains, one that she can carry with her and wield at will where it will go the furthest. And where it will go the furthest, right now, is Iftel. 

 

Karis departs from Sunhame fully aware that there's still plenty of opportunity for seeds she planted there to burn instead. The priesthood has never been without fracture-lines, and a coup like the one twelve years ago could happen again, and it would be less likely if she stayed long enough to clear up the succession, but - she has channels that will be wasted if she hasn't found people to save before dawn. 

She - and a dozen priests of Vkandis - will be at the Iftel border by midnight. 

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Vanyel sleeps, mostly. 

 

Every so often one of the other Healers, not Shavri, pokes him awake to drink more tea (aughhhhhh) and channel, which fortunately doesn't seem to take much mental effort, just the bird made of paper twists in his hand. 

He already used his second channel in the late morning – almost noon, really, the dawn-to-dusk interval at this time of year is only eight candlemarks or so. By the time the third is due, it's midafternoon, and he...doesn't feel like he's run dry? He might have more than three, he tells the Healer at his side, though he's not going to entirely believe it until it's time for the next one and he tries and it works. 

 

The fourth channel is due after sunset. It works. The days are still short and the nights are long, they're well under halfway from this morning's dawn to the next one, but it's clearly better than anyone hoped for. 

 

The...fifth??? channel???...is due in the late evening. There's still a lot of night to go, but they're steadily nibbling away the hours, and everyone is still alive. Blai and Seldan are even gaining ground, at least on brightness of life-force; Vanyel's channels aren't strong enough to "fill" either one, but the leakage is slow enough that the gain isn't entirely lost before the next channel is due. 

Vanyel feels like he still has one more in him??????? 

(He also still has his other mysterious spell, but he doesn't have the faintest idea what it does and isn't going to risk using it. He's been casting Guidance on himself occasionally during moments of half-lucidity, because it does seem to help him snap out of the stupid doomdespair spirals.) 

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The senior Healer on duty considers waking Shavri to consult her, and decides against. At this rate, Vanyel's SIXTH channel will fall around midnight, and from there they should, actually, be able to get through until morning with the two channels Blai has. Having Joshel on hand for casting Virtue helped buy them some breathing room to give more of the Healers breaks, but they don't need him. So - he should be free to go, now, if the King can use his spells better elsewhere. 

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Joshel will get to CAST HIS FLOATING DISK SPELL to transport a ton of relief supplies across a Gate!!! He’s so excited!!! …He didn’t end up having any opportunity to think about payment for spells, what with all the re-casting Virtue over and over all day, but hopefully Abadar will forgive him just this one time. 

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In the early hours of the morning, Shavri is back on duty, and gently nudges Blai awake. :We’re ready for your first channel now.:

Her patients are not doing great. Stef and Nayoki are both losing badly-needed fluids to intermittent diarrhea, and unsurprisingly miserable about it. But it seems like everyone will still be alive at dawn.

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Blai blinks at her and nods and checks the room out of reflex - it's not like the room has gotten any bigger but if somebody were for instance completely behind someone else that would be an issue and they'd need to fling an arm over - anyway - channel.

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Oh good. That did get both Blai and Seldan very temporarily up to “full” life-force.

:So it turns out Van has six channels a day: she informs Blai. :I don’t have the faintest idea how that squares with his having fewer of the first-circle spells than anyone else, but - we need it. We’ve sent Joshel to the border for relief work.:

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:Spell number is based on Wisdom, channel number based on Splendor. It just means he's more Splendid than Wise. Quite unusually Splendid:

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If Shavri were in any mood to find humor in the situation, “Vanyel is more Splendid than Wise” would be a truly hilarious description of him.

:I can see it: she sends tiredly, and gives him a mug of sweet-and-salty tea; he’s the only human patient still capable of holding a cup unaided. :You should drink this and try to get some more sleep. It’s about five candlemarks to go until dawn, we’ll need to wake you again for the second channel in three candlemarks or so.:

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Seldan feels like he had a question for Shavri, something to sort out before Blai prays for his spells? He can’t remember what the question was, though.

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Sip. Did Seldan think he should prepare different spells today? It seems premature to try the thing with the inevitable even if a lot of diamonds land on their laps. Did he maybe have an opinion about what Vanyel should be praying for, or Joshel?

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No, that’s not it, he agrees it’s premature, it was a question for Shavri specifically about a spell slot priority thing, about the Healers - he had it mentally stored behind “follow up on seeing if Lady Teresa can sew Vanyel a prettier bird for his holy symbol”, which he should in fact check, but he doesn’t think that was the thing…

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Something about whether the Healers... need healing? Should be trying to become clerics?

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No - that’s a good idea too but it wasn’t—

Nap Stack! That was it! He wanted to ask Shavri if she thought the Healers could use a Nap Stack - they would presumably want Blai to cast it on a different room than the one where someone is throwing up at least once a candlemark on average, and it would mean only four Lesser Restorations so he’d wanted to ask Shavri if she thought it was safe to skip him for the day. He finds he doesn’t like the idea at all, because he feels absolutely disgusting and he might only get ten minutes of Remove Sickness unless they recall Karis and Joshel for it…

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Oh, right. :Healer Shavri, do you think we and you could benefit from a Nap Stack, if there is another elaborate pillow to hand?:

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...The Healers can use it, and Shavri is certain there's some way to get a pillow in the next day, maybe not by dawn but before the spell will be wasted. 

 

She peers at Seldan with Healing-Sight. 

:Seldan will lose some ground. And probably won't make it up, we can't afford two Lesser Restorations for him the next morning unless one of our new clerics somehow gets second-circle spells.: Which seems very unlikely. :But - I think he can afford it in the near-term.: 

 

In the long term, Shavri is increasingly sure that none of these patients are going to recover. More Lesser Restorations would make a temporary difference, but she's not sure even that would hold off the damage, just - buy time. For them to figure something else out. 

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:I think it's worth it: Seldan tells Blai. It's - helping everyone at a cost he only pays himself, and even then, if not everyone makes, he doesn't think he's going to be the first to die.

 

 ...It might, possibly, maybe, make the difference between Seldan surviving as long as Blai is still alive versus dying first, if this goes on for a long time. So he thinks Blai should get input into whether that's worth it. 

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It was so dumb of Blai to get a Companion without a Breath of Life scroll ALREADY IN HAND except how Seldan is very good and if he tries to re-imagine the last few days without him this does not mentally complete at all.

:Nap Stack's usual field use is partly to let arcane casters prepare spells on less sleep but it does also accelerate any natural healing that would normally take place during sleep. Are we... doing that... at all?:

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:...Well, you're deteriorating all the time even when you're asleep: Shavri admits. :But it can't be helping any of you how often we’re interrupting your rest.: No one is critically dehydrated yet, but it’s because Shavri has been waking everyone at least every two candlemarks to get more tea down, and Stef and Nayoki in particular haven’t had more than forty-minute minutes at a stretch for the last twelve candlemarks. :If two candlemarks counts like eight uninterrupted - well, at the very least you might feel at all rested for a little while.:

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Feeling like he’s actually slept sounds pretty amazing, even if it doesn’t help with anything else. Seldan is in favor if they can get the pillow. …They might want to prepare a room for it specially this time, it’s probably not as bad at the last emergency but the Heralds might be able to use some naptime too.

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Shavri’s in favor if they are.

 

(She really hopes they’re not gambling wrong.)

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:That does not answer my question. Is sleeping better for us than being awake, in terms of the progression of the symptoms? Nap Stack should accelerate any improvements, let us make up four times as much ground, without making us get worse any faster at the same time:

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…It seems entirely plausible and even likely to Shavri that the progression is a little slower when they’re asleep once you factor out that sleeping people can’t drink tea. She hadn’t really been tracking that aspect because there’s a lot to track right now.

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:Then I think I am tentatively in favor of preparing one. - did anyone get an exact timing on how long my Remove Sicknesses lasted, yesterday? If it's very close to a full hour and in particular if ones cast later in the day were longer than the first one, I might have another spell soon:

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Shavri kept a ledger of everything that happened yesterday!

 

Blai’s spells were very close to a full candlemark, which she thinks is the same as an “hour” in Golarion reckoning even though now that she’s considering it properly that’s kind of a weird coincidence. Whether the later ones were longer is…hard to be sure given the limitations of timekeeping with sandglasses (which are a lot more accurate than literal marked candles if you remember to flip the fifteen-minute ones right away) but she wrote down a slightly larger number on the last two.

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…Groveborn Companions theoretically have eidetic memory and perfect time sense but Seldan is not functioning at his full capacity right now. All he can say is that 57 and then 58 minutes seems about right to him.

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:Maybe not fast enough. When it's a full hour, then I would expect another third circle slot:

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That could end up being really useful even if it’s not for another day or two, if - well, Seldan isn’t sure he fully understands how spellcasters in Golarion get stronger, it’s not a thing here, but it the conditions are “using magic with life-or-death stakes” then THIS SHOULD REALLY COUNT.

 

(They absolutely need a better long term plan than they have right now but Seldan is putting that off for after a Lesser Restoration and a Nap Stack.)

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If Shavri has no further questions he will tentatively plan to prep a Nap Stack and just four Lesser Restorations unless the new slot comes in this morning.

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That sounds good. He should get some more sleep, she’s going to need him again in three candlemarks.

 

 

The rest of the night passes. Nobody dies.

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Good morning beloved <3

I spoke to the Star-Eyed and She wanted me to convey on Her behalf that she's been doing a lot of reflection recently and wants to say that She's sorry about Her part in Tylendel's death.

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???

 

???????

 

 

?????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!! 

 

 

 

 

…Vanyel is grateful to his goddess for relaying that message. And will finish praying for the full hour before asking Blai if that’s even a slightly normal thing to happen.

Seldan poked him about two minutes before dawn and told him it might be helpful if he could try to convey to Shelyn, while doing his morning spell prayer, that the Shadow-Lover’s god has his friend Leareth and may not entirely understand how to be nice to the souls in Their possession. Seldan did not include any further detail and Vanyel promptly spent ninety seconds panicking that the Shadowgod made friends with Asmodeus and is bonding with Their new buddy by doing some torture. He managed to convince himself this was probably an overreaction and can manage a calm and dignified prayer that Shelyn keep an eye out for his dead friend, who he's very worried about because none of the gods here are Good or very good at understanding humans and Leareth was scared of gods for very understandable reasons and probably really hates being dead and housed by one of them, if he's having experiences, which Seldan's comment implied although on reflection Vanyel isn't sure how Seldan knows that. 

Also he would like the same spells as yesterday, thank you. He craves a Remove Sickness with the visceral desperation of someone who hasn't managed any solid food in the last twenty candlemarks. 

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(Joshel got a similar message, actually via one of Leareth's staff who was updated by Seldan, but he's on the Iftel border and the things he's seen there are honestly a lot more upsetting than "the Evil archmage who was going to invade our kingdom is being interrogated by a clueless god". The Shadow-Lover isn't even that bad, going by the song. He'll include in his prayer that Abadar should perhaps offer to sell the Shadow-Lover god some...guidelines on talking to souls of dead humans...if that's a thing?) 

He asks for Remove Sickness again even though it'll be really annoying to have to get a Gate back and what if Shavri manages to trap him in the room again to cast his stupid orison every minute. ...Maybe today is a good day to insist that he'll do but only it if the Healers' Collegium pays him - or pays the Heralds' Collegium, or whatever makes it the least weird, but that seems like an extremely reasonable way to handle being asked to do something incredibly valuable and also personally unpleasant...

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At the end of the hour Vanyel immediately pokes Seldan with Mindspeech and asks him to convey to Blai (who's a lot more work to Mindspeak, since he isn't Gifted) that Shelyn...relayed...an apology...from the Star-Eyed Goddess? Who has apparently been "reflecting" and is now sorry about the whole thing where his lifebonded died twenty years ago? Context, for complicated reasons that's how he ended up with an absurd number of Gifts and ten times the raw power of the average Adept-potential mage, presumably so he could actually kill Leareth. Vanyel normally finds this really upsetting to think about but he's not even upset right now, he's too confused. 

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What. 

 

:Blai, Vanyel says he got a - vision? message? from Shelyn. On behalf of the Star-Eyed Goddess. Who wanted to apologize for murdering his lifebonded decades ago as part of a godplot.: 

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:That's really weird.

I guess I don't know a lot about how Shelyn spends Her intervention budget. Maybe it's characteristic for Her. ...or the Star-Eyed might have paid for it:

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:That seems really uncharacteristic of the Star-Eyed! ...But so does apologizing so what do I know.: What the fuck. Seldan has so many questions and no way of getting any of them answered, the Star-Eyed does not give him a nice convenient metaphorical letterbox in the blue place. 

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Shavri would like everyone's Lesser Restorations upfront please; for all the humans, that is.

 

(She's worried that the damage gets...stickier? If it's left untreated for too long. Van seemed to either have more total damage or got a slightly weaker casting of it yesterday, and it kind of looks like this morning it's just...like that now. She doesn't say this. She really, really needs to have an honest talk with all her patients about their chances here, but she's going to be a coward and do it AFTER she's had a "full night" of sleep.) 

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Lesser Restorations for... all the humans. If she's really sure it's Seldan who should be skipping one and not Blai.

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Shavri thiiiinks that makes the most sense but Blai is more of an expert so she's happy to discuss her reasoning with him, after the casting is done on all the non-Blai humans. 

 

:I'm not entirely sure of this, but - you have the extra life-force thing, right? That we think is because you're a cleric and clerics get stronger like that. Seldan isn't, his peak life-force is...still only a bit more than half as bright as yours? But he has an absurd amount of the - whatever goes into higher Endurance. The way Randi looked weaker even after Lesser Restorations, Seldan looks way, way stronger. Stronger than you, you're - still in vaguely human range on the underlying function - for Seldan I think that may be almost the entire reason why his life-force is so much brighter than, say, Vanyel's. He's weakening at the same rate as you, but it's proportionally much less for him. ...Also I'm confused by this but I think there's something where you lose more of the - total capacity to hold onto life-force - than anyone else does in between Lesser Restorations. Does that make sense?: 

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Puzzling that out for a moment, yes, that makes sense - an Endurance poison will take a bit longer to kill a strong adventurer than a random peasant, but, maybe not like, twice as long, even though it would take more than twice as much hitting Blai with a sword to kill him than a random peasant? So if this is modeled as an Endurance poison it's going to be taking "larger chunks" out of Blai's, uh, swordability. ...he apologizes for his muddled thinking here, he would normally put the concepts in better order. He will cast the Lesser Restoration on himself.

He is not really clear on why Stef is so high in triage priority but it seems a bit late to ask unless Seldan happens to know.

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Oh did no one explain! Seldan must have been too out of it or busy Mindspeech-harassing trainees to notice Blai being confused before. It’s because Van and Stef are lifebonded, which is a bit like a Companion-bond but between humans and, you know, romantic, and if anything it might be a little worse for someone to lose. Vanyel survived a dead lifebonded partner for over a decade, it sounds like, but he had Yfandes then, and he’s already in a bad way even with Stef still alive. It would be pretty shocking if he hung on with TWO broken soul bonds and NO living soul bonded people to stick around for.

(It’s really weird that Vanyel has been lifebonded twice,  honestly, but the weirdness is mostly in the fact that he survived the first one’s death for…how long, exactly—. wait, and how old is Stef - he looks really young, well under twenty - Seldan is abruptly forming a THEORY about bonds and reincarnation and a meddling Shadow-Lover. The Groveborn Companion route would have been faster but it’s probably really expensive and also Stef would be the WORST Companion, can you imagine.)

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Blai's not sure how much variety there is in Companions, he's met only a handful! It does kind of lend credibility to the idea that the Star-Eyed could have come around to being sorry if She already participated in or at least did not block a plan to give Vanyel's lifebonded... back... after a while?? Anyway that does perfectly explain the triage priority. Hopefully the -

- Seldan, how long ago was the last Nap Stack, you can't actually just do them all the time, you need to wait like a week, and Vanyel wasn't there and Stef and Nayoki weren't either but -

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Oh no Seldan should have remembered that because Companions are supposed to remember everything but he FORGOT because he is really not at his best right now. 

...It feels like weeks ago but that's mostly because it's been. Very eventful. And also Seldan thinks that visiting the Shadow-Lover really messes with his timesense, maybe. He remembers figuring out how long it had been since...something...to make a point, what was the point, oh it was that he didn't get why Vkandis had waited three days to try to murder Leareth, which isn't relevant but does mean he knows it was three days from the gryphon-earthquake-attack until the Dream Feast day, which was also the day Vkandis exploded Iftel. When was the Nap Stack, was it the same day as the Endure Elements or as Remove Blindness, he thinks it was the same day as Endure Elements. Which - this is the second dawn they've spent in this horrible room, so that's - 

 

- four days? Ugh. Not even close to a week. Ugh!!! It's probably still the right call, the Healers are the ones who need it badly and a few of them did squeeze into the last Nap Stack but, like, as an afterthought when there happened to be room to spare, they definitely weren't the highest priority. Seldan is frustrated because he hates realizing he made a tactical decision on partial or partially-wrong information but - this honestly might be the right call even if it was only Shavri who could benefit from it, she's astonishingly talented as a Healer and also has a decent head for strategy when she's not staggering around half delirious with exhaustion– wait shit was Shavri in the last Nap Stack??? That would in fact have really been a good reason to wait three days - assuming anyone is still alive in three days - and he's mostly remembering some backchannel gossip where some Companions were discussing whether or not to hold open a spot for her - 

 

:Shavri were you in the last Nap Stack?: he sends at her rather than try any harder to remember. 

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:...No, I passed on it last time.: She remembers kind of regretting it after seeing just how bright-eyed and bushy-tailed everyone else was that evening. 

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...Okay. Good. That's a relief. Shavri will at least benefit, and so will Van and Stef and Nayoki - if the Healers carry them to the room they set up for it, he still thinks they should do a specially set up room and not try to make the entire staff of the Healers' Collegium rotate through sleeping on bedrolls on the floor of this room. 

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Okay. - also Blai thinks basically everyone was in there for just two hours last time but that's not actually necessary, if you'd benefit from sixteen hours of sleep you can take four, if you want to be in the Nap Stack start to finish you can do that too.

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Seldan feels like most people would have trouble staying asleep for sixteen hours straight no matter how behind on sleep they were, but...being horribly ill is probably different, he'll make sure Shavri knows that Van and Stef and Nayoki will continue getting the Nap Stack efficient-rest-benefit as long as they're in it and there's probably no reason to wake them and kick them out after two hours. 

(And he'll separately poke Gemma out in the hall and ask her to make sure Shavri stays asleep as long as possible, regardless of whether she asks to be woken after two candlemarks because she's anxious about leaving her patients for too long. She would, he knows her type, and he thinks Gemma will agree that she needs the rest more than she realizes and so he's going to meddle.) 

 

 

...And he's making a mental note that he really, really needs to meddle to schedule some sort of strategy-meeting tonight. He's going to feel like shit but that's inevitable. Van and Stef and Nayoki will be at their most functional, Shavri should hopefully be functional, and...they need a longer-term plan. And to demand some honesty from Shavri about what their prognosis really is. Seldan is pretty sure he's been failing to look at the bigger picture, and - they need to. 

But that's later. For now: flop time? 

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Flop time. Cozy furry Companion to lean on.

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This entire situation sucks immensely but Seldan is still so very glad that he has the best Herald. 

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They have a new fancy pillow by early afternoon. 

(It's even more tasteless than the last one, but that does not, strictly speaking, matter for this, and Lady Treesa was delighted to use up all of her weird expensive fabrics and ribbons and beads on something that would HELP SAVE THE KINGDOM and also specifically help her son get a nap. After this she's going to work on crafting a nicer bird for Vanyel, too. In Shavri's mind it's an excellent way to keep her busy and feeling like she's helping, so that she doesn't try to finagle her way into the House of Healing to fuss over Vanyel in person and be in the way.) 

There's a room set up for it too! Which means they're going to need to move Blai over there long enough to cast it. 

She thinks Blai might still be able to walk that far, it's about the same distance as he walked two days ago to reach Leareth, but he hasn't even been as far as the door since then, and everyone has been getting weaker, Lesser Restoration can either target the "Endurance" problem or the physical weakness and the latter isn't going to be what kills them first. Shavri does not really feel like finding out the hard way that Blai can't quite manage it anymore, and also it's only been three candlemarks since his Remove Sickness meal break and the exertion made him throw up last time. So he's getting carried by four trainees on a litter instead. 

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Seldan does noooooot liiiike having Blai out of sight even for less than five minutes, even though they're at no point separated by shielding and can be in Mindspeech contact the whole time. He's feeling very protective lately!

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Blai doesn't like it either but Nap Stack has a long casting time and he is going to need all his stamina for that.

He assesses the pillow for sufficient fanciness, and then he sets about waving it through the air.

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...Seldan is going to distract himself by finding another Companion in easy Mindspeech range and harassing them to poke Enara and get an update on what Jisa is up to lately. It occurred to him because he was mulling on inviting her to their strategy discussion tonight, which was the point at which he realized he doesn't have the slightest idea what she's been doing since she rescued Leareth from the north. 

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Working with a team of Leareth's researchers on trying to catch up to where Leareth had gotten on his Gate-to-Golarion research agenda and then execute on it themselves. 

 

It's...not going incredibly well. No one else made it out alive from the base Leareth was in, and they lost all his extant notes, so all they have to go on is a few snippets of notes that other people took when he pulled them in to talk through pieces of the problem. 

She'll come to the meeting. It's not like stepping away from the work for a few candlemarks is going to make any appreciable difference. It's– they can probably get there, Jisa thinks, eventually. The difficulty level isn't impossible. They have Blai's stuff to study and use for search-spell targeting. They just...are going to need to re-develop a lot more of the techniques involved than Leareth would have. It's going to take them multiple months, she thinks, or even years, unless they get absurdly lucky. 

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Well, that's not the best news but it's not actually worse than Seldan expected, given that he hadn't been sure if anyone was getting down to work on any part of their problem. 

He...feels like he had another question for Jisa, but he can't remember it right now and that was a lot of Mindspeech. Hopefully it'll come back to him before tonight. 

He can fill Blai in on the small update once Blai is back from casting the spell. 

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Once Blai is back in bed and in the line of effect, Shavri would like Van to use his second channel of the day now, before they prepare to carry him plus Stef and Nayoki over to their new temporary Nap Stack beds.

...Actually, no, nevermind, she wants one of Blai's channels. Because it will top him and Seldan up much further, just in case the Nap Stack does seem to really help and she ends up wanting to leave her patients in it for a lot more than two candlemarks, at which point it would be kind of a waste of a channel for Blai to need to use one of his on just himself and Seldan. 

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Very well. Channel: bam.

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Vanyel and Stef and Nayoki are successively carried out of the room. It's just Blai and Seldan now, with a junior Healer parked next to each of them holding a link. 

 

It's quiet. Seldan could be using this nice uninterrupted quiet with a guaranteed absence of unexpected sick-people noises to do some thinking. But he's very tired and it feels a lot easier right now to be reactive. At some point people be expecting a meeting and then he'll have to Lead A Meeting and he's done that on no sleep before, it feels weirdly more possible than just...thinking...in a quiet room with nothing immediate to react to. 

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Whether fortunately or unfortunately, it seems like they're going to have something to react to!

Brightstar comes into the room. 

(If Shavri or any of the senior Healers were around, either in the room itself or in the hallway or central station, they might have stopped him. But none of the junior Healers and trainees currently holding the fort and waiting their turn with the Nap Stack have the slightest idea who Brightstar is.) 

Brightstar doesn't seem hostile. Just...half-stunned. He looks around uncertainly, then Mindtouches Blai. :I need to talk to you.: 

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OH SHIT THAT WAS WHAT HE FORGOT TO ASK JISA

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OH SHIT

Who knows Brightstar is here. Who is supposed to know where Brightstar is. Blai is on... stalling him... by talking to him... he guesses... while Seldan figures that out??

:What is it?:

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Brightstar fidgets and seems to need a moment to think. 

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First off, Seldan is VERY GLAD he's been instinctively keeping Blai 'under' his mind-shields when they're in close contact, because Blai is weirdly hard to mindread against his will for an un-Gifted person but he does not, in fact, actually shield on his own, and Brightstar might get suspicious if Seldan had to try to pop his shields out to cover Blai belatedly. 

As it is, Blai just has to act normal, which he's entirely capable of doing because he's Chelish and no one who isn't Chelish will ever notice that he's having an emotion just from his face. Who knew that would be so useful. 

 

:Rolan is Brightstar supposed to be in Haven?: 

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Rolan was out by Companions' Field, more than a quarter-mile away, and is very surprised. 

:You are supposed to be resting: he chides Seldan. 

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:Yes but Brightstar just showed up in the House of Healing! Which is when I remembered I forgot to ever ask why in the world Jisa had him with her when she Gated Leareth over! Is he supposed to be under guard?: 

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:...My Goddess sent me a vision: Brightstar sends finally to Blai. He continues not to look like he's about to try to murder anyone. Mostly he looks...sad. And confused. And sort of dazed, like someone who just stared directly at the sun for a couple of minutes and now can't quite focus on things around the afterimages burned into his eyeballs. 

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Well that explains... an extremely wide range of possible behavior so it's not actually reassuring basically at all but it's sooooort of explanatory. :A vision: he prompts.

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:He was supposed to be staying with his sister: Rolan sends after a ten-second pause. :...He was not being closely guarded. Enara tells me that he helped with the attempt to rescue Leareth.: 

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Um!!!!!

:Why did Jisa involve him in the first place?: That sounds like a terrible idea!!! Jisa may not always come across as the Wisest of people but she's not a complete idiot and she doesn't lose her head under pressure, why would she–

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Another pause while, presumably, Rolan puts out feelers about this too. It does not seem like he's been closely tracking the situation. 


:Apparently Jisa convinced him to help by promising him that Leareth would pay to resurrect his parents once he could reach Golarion.: 

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What. 

 

 

- nevermind. Seldan doesn't actively bounce it at Blai, he doesn't want to distract him, but they're in rapport so it's right there if Blai has the attention to spare. Seldan starts looking for Jisa's mind to ask her what in the world she was thinking and if there's some very good reason why this was less of a terrible disaster plan than it sounded like. 

(He should possibly let someone nearby know that they could be in danger, but all the Healers he trusts to definitely not freak out are in the Nap Stack and it doesn't, yet, seem like enough of an emergency to justify waking them and costing them a proper rest. Brightstar seems pretty calm?) 

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Brightstar seems to need a solid fifteen seconds to process whatever he's trying to say. He looks like he might be in the grip of a godheadache. (The Star-Eyed is worse at sending visions than the Shadow-Lover is at talking to mortals, especially when the nearest Heartstone is hundreds of miles away.) 

 

:...She told me that She - destroyed k'Treva - because She thought it was the - the best path to kill Leareth forever and - and She thought - we would understand that - if She could have asked.: Brightstar's mindvoice is hesitant, almost fragmented. :But that - She realized - it was a mistake. She said She was...not sure it was ever worth it? That - maybe it was important for, I think She meant Leareth, to die, but...maybe there would have been another way...? And She said that She, She did not understand, how much it would hurt Her people. She said that She - was sorry - for hurting me. And She said that She - loves me, and wants to, to fix it, to - make it right -: 

 

Brightstar is shaking, hugging himself, tears leaking from eyelids squeezed tightly shut. 

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....Okay, maybe not calm exactly but - wow - that's so many apologies! What! 

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Why is any of this necessary to tell Blai! Why was that what Brightstar decided to do with this information! :That sounds - overwhelming: he volunteers, based more on Brightstar's evident overwhelm than on any objective belief about how much one ought to be whelmed by this eventuality.

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Maybe he was looking for Vanyel and settled for Blai when Van wasn’t interruptible? Or maybe it’s the thing where absolutely everyone around here seems to have concluded that Blai is an expert in dealings with gods in full generality. Which Seldan doesn’t really feel is unreasonable, Blai does give excellent advice, because he has the beeeeest Herald, even if it’s admittedly rough when this means his Herald has to give people advice when he feels awful.

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Brightstar doesn’t especially acknowledge Blai’s response. After a long pause, he goes on.

 

:She said that - my parents, all of the others, are - somewhere safe and good? …And She said that - She cannot see, now, to act - but that She trusts me to serve Her and I should, I should, do as I think is right -:

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:..and now you are thinking through what that might be?: he guesses. Somewhere safe and good - does the Star-Eyed have a better setup than the Shadow-Lover's holding repository, or is She lying, or did She send them all to Nirvana like Blai suggested to the Shadow-Lover back when -

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:She should not trust me!: Brightstar wails in Mindspeech. :I have terrible judgment! Jisa said so! I make bad decisions and I - get people killed horribly - and I will find a way to do something else horrible and ruin everything! No one else trusts me anymore! Why does my Goddess even still want me?:

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well, the Star-Eyed, also, has terrible judgment and gets people killed horribly

well, Blai, too, has made bad decisions and spent quite a while objectively untrustworthy with moral choices

why is any of this falling into Blai's lap, that's the question.

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…There’s a lot to sort through there but at least Brightstar seems to be willing to admit that some things recently didn’t go well? 

Seldan doesn’t really have advice any better that “you absolutely did screw up, kid.” There’s probably something better to say but this isn’t really one of his strengths, at least not when he’s still this annoyed with someone. 

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Brightstar sniffles and rubs at his eyes.

:Jisa said I should talk to you: he mumbles out in Mindspeech. :She said you - might understand.:

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Well NOW they know whose fault that is!

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:......did she elaborate about why?:

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:No?: Brightstar says uncertainly. :...I can leave, if I should not have come and it was a bad time?: 

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:...the time is not at issue. I have... only guesses about why Jisa said I would be helpful with this: and half of them are that Jisa's insane :but I am not actually practiced at giving advice:

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Blai could point out that the Star-Eyed also had terrible judgement and got people killed horribly but is now trying to move past that and really Her “trusting” Brightstar is only making the claim that he’s not worse than her, which is a very low hurdle to clear? …Will that help to hear, Seldan has no idea. He doesn’t think it would help if he delivered himself because he cannot imagine getting it out in anything but the most sarcastic tone imaginable. He used to get told he sounded snarky even when he didn’t mean to be. 

…Seldan can bother Enara directly to find out why Jisa made the suggestion - he can’t find Jisa herself, she’s probably in a Work Room - but his thought, whether or not it was what Jisa had in mind, is that…Blai is in some sense the least personally involved and least personally betrayed of anyone in Haven? He didn’t know any of these people until a few weeks ago. He’s not close with any of them. He doesn’t have nearly as complicated relationship with the gods as Vanyel, and he was pragmatically harmed by Leareth’s death but he’s not grieving a friend. And - he can be matter-of-fact about all of it! He’s from the horrifying thought experiment planet, and the things the gods - and the people - get up to here are almost tame in comparison to Asmodeus or Zon-Kuthon.

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They really are, that's true. All this emotional distance will only help if he thinks of something to say though. ......... :There is reason to believe that the Star-Eyed has begun talking to some gods known on my planet: he volunteers inanely in case that shakes loose some Brightstar reaction that serves as a prompt for him to come up with a remark.

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Brightstar blinks at him. 

 

:- She did not say that to me. ...Which gods? What are they like?: 

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:I don't have a complete list. Vanyel was recently empowered as a cleric of Shelyn, who communicated something to him on the Star-Eyed's behalf this morning. Shelyn is the Neutral Good goddess of love and art. She might also have gotten referrals to Abadar, who we know the Shadow-Lover's god has been communicating with, and possibly others too:

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Brightstar nods uncertainly. He seems to spend a while considering this. 

 

:So - do you think that She knows that in your world they can - return the dead to life -?:

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:...if She was interested in this information it's been made available to her, I would assume:

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Brightstar doesn't seem like he knows what to do about that, entirely. He paces back and forth a little bit, looking about twelve different variants of 'upset'.

 

:...She said she did not know if Leareth needed to die or not: he segues to. :That...: He swipes at his eyes, frustratedly. :It is hard to remember exactly, I - think - She said that maybe it was very important but She wished She had chosen a plan that hurt Her people less, but - maybe it was not even important.: His eyes lift from the floor to Blai. :Do you think he needed to die?: 

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....Wow. Okay. That is indeed a much better question for Brightstar to ask Blai than anyone who's more personally upset about Leareth's death.

(Seldan, it turns out, is actually kind of personally upset, now that he's given himself a moment to think about it. Apparently he and Leareth were friends, once. He's more pissed off at the Star-Eyed and Vkandis for contributing to it happening, and pissed off at the Shadow-Lover for being hopelessly dense and mean to Leareth without even realizing it, than he is sad, but that's - characteristic, for him, anger is a lot more comfortable than grief.) 

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:I do not particularly think so. If I were mistaken in some respect that wouldn't astonish me. There was nothing stopping him from deceiving me about his characteristics. But as far as I know, no, so I defaulted to trying to keep him alive:

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(Is that actually true? That nothing was stopping Leareth from deceiving Blai about his characteristics? Seldan feels like it would at least have been very hard and implausible for Leareth to have known he would need to fake the Lawful alignment and figured it out in the, what, several days in between Blai arriving in Haven at all and the point when they met? And...a lot of the rest feels like it flows from that. 

...And he feels like there's something significant they can read into how dead-Leareth acted with them. He was so upset about the casualties in Iftel, and Seldan doesn't think he was in any way in any state to think to fake that in order to come across better to them.) 

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Brightstar nods jerkily. 

:- How can you tell?: he sends after another few seconds of pacing. :If you are– if you think you are doing the right thing but you are actually about to make a terrible mistake that hurts everybody you care about and makes everybody angry with you?: 

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...Asking yourself that question for even five seconds before you run headfirst into doing something stupid is a good start, Seldan thinks. Though it's not obvious that that would have stopped Brightstar's most damaging actions here, which were very premeditated. 

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It would have been inconvenient for Leareth to deceive Blai about his characteristics, but a Lawful alignment alone doesn't necessarily mean somebody doesn't need to die. Obviously Blai was comfortable putting a lot of weight on his conclusions there! But nothing strictly stopped Leareth from omitting some kind of crucial contextual information, say, which he also would not have remembered while dead and only able to remember four things at a time.

Blai considers and rejects the response "if you figure that out, let me know". As phrased that's not even an accurate response, Blai has only recently had anyone he cared about and does not actually think whether everybody is angry with him is a useful benchmark.

He thinks, sipping his tea, then goes with, :There should be a strategic path to a specific objective that has a known good outcome. Leareth being dead might conceivably have been a step on a path like that. But it would have helped to know why that was desirable, so that if conditions on the ground seemed to change, you could respond to that:

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:Van thought that Leareth probably needed to die: Brightstar says. It's more thoughtful and less...wailing...than anything else so far. :For a very long time. It was what he told me. That he wanted to try to talk to him as long as possible, because a war would be very bad and at the very least talking would delay it. And that - he admired Leareth in many ways. But that - even if Leareth was not lying to him about everything, he could be admirable and still wrong, and if he would not back down from invading Valdemar to kill ten million people then Van could not back down from trying to kill him.:

Brightstar shivers abruptly. :...And then all of a sudden everyone was backing down and I - I was not trying to understand, at the time, I thought all of it was a horrible trick. I am scared that - that the vision from Her is a horrible trick too, somehow, and I should not believe it... I know Van was never really dead, so Leareth did not kill him, and he did not destroy k'Treva, those are - bad things I thought he had done and was wrong - but there were so many other bad things we know he did and I, I do not understand why everyone - changed their mind - and said of course we want him to help go to Golarion. Even if he would pay to raise the dead - it would be selfish and horrible to help someone just because of that if they were actually bad and needed to die -: 

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AHA at last Brightstar has said something for which Blai has a relevant response!

:It is not selfish to cooperate with even the most dreadful entities imaginable if you can do that and the thing you are cooperating on matters enough: he says. :Both of those parts matter - verifying what dreadful entities mean to do based on what they say or what agreements they sign, and under what conditions they can and will accomplish it, is something of an entire field of study, on Golarion, and it would not be fundamentally unreasonable to decide never to try to do this at all and to never attempt anything so ambitious that Evil allies were necessary to achieve it. But I spent my career posted at a border fortress keeping in an unlimited supply of demons bent on ravaging my planet, and people of all philosophies and commitments abided by a treaty that pointed us all toward the same end, whatever else we did with ourselves. We lent each other our assistance as needed and exchanged relevant information to keep the ward up and the breaches limited, and the world didn't end, for a hundred years, for long enough that a party of archmages was able to close the portal. Perhaps what Velgarth contacting Golarion could mean is less important than that. Perhaps Leareth is harder to be sure of than the other signatories to an expert-drafted ream of legal language. But those are questions that would want asking, here:

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WOW that was a solid response, good work Blai, Seldan...would not have come up with it nearly as quickly and wouldn't have any personal examples nearly as relevant (Velgarth having both less in the way of evil-thought-experiment countries to cooperate with normal countries despite deep philosophical differences, and also a severe dearth of Law for even their much less starkly opposed countries to cooperate on literally anything ever) and he would have been incapable of delivering it sincerely and without snark.

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Brightstar seems to find this kind of befuddling, and spends a while blinking and half turning in circles on the spot and rubbing his arms with his hands as though he's cold. But...it does seem like something landed. 

 

:I need to tell you something: he sends abruptly.

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....Well that's really ominous. 

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IT REALLY IS, WOW.

:What is it?:

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:...I helped Jisa find Leareth: Brightstar sends. :I– just before the Iftel...thing...happened, minutes before, my Goddess had sent a vision. A shorter one, but - She said then that what She had asked of me might have been a mistake - and She tried to warn us, I think, about the attack, but it was only a second before it happened, we could not have told anyone to get out in time even if I had been - trying. ...And then Jisa asked me to find him. The way I found him before, with his immortality backup. She argued that my Goddess had clearly not been responsible for the attack and had - tried to help - even if it came too late. And that we could still fix everything and bring everyone back if we could reach Golarion, but we needed Leareth to do that. She said he would pay for it, she seemed very sure of it, that he would - feel responsible - because he did not kill my parents but they died because my Goddess was afraid of him and so it is - his responsibility even more than the rest of the world.: 

 

Brightstar shivers. :...So I did. And - we were too late - I panicked, I think, it felt like I had - made a choice I could not turn back from, with no time to think, and then it had not even mattered. ...I projected my mind to the Void and I tried to - catch him, his soul. Jisa thought that was a stupid plan, she asked what I would have done if I had succeeded and - I have no idea. I could not have put him back even if we could fix his spell, it kills people. I told Jisa that maybe I could have let him have my body so he could find Golarion and bring back my parents and she thought that plan was very stupid too.: 

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Wait Leareth's immortality spell does WHAT.

 

(Did what, Seldan supposes. It doesn't do anything anymore.) 

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See that's an example of a bit of context Leareth could have been leaving out which might conceivably matter for an assessment of his characteristics! Though, uh, him not having it also killed a bunch of people. Causally, not in terms of moral responsibility, not that Blai is the expert on moral responsibility.

:I don't know if he will in fact pay for any such thing. He might or might not consider that something he owes reparations for: Blai stalls.

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That sure is a bit of context! Seldan doesn't actually feel like it's at all surprising or in tension with everything they think they know about Leareth's characteristics, and is mostly staring in fascinated horror at the fact that you can even do that. It's hard to think of a coherent moral system under which it would be worse than murdering ten million people, but in some sense it's...creepier. 

 

...Anyway, the thing Brightstar tried was in fact a stupid plan! That he did not spend even five seconds thinking about the consequences of! Admittedly 'chasing after someone's soul when they die' makes sense as something one would need to do instantly, and there is an important skill in being someone who's capable of forming and acting on a plan in a split second, and if Brightstar survives his twenties then someday he might be very, very good at that. 

Fundamentally, it seems like Brightstar is a hotheaded young fool. There's no shame in that! It's a rather common way for young men to be; every so often you get someone like Treven, who seems like he's had the deliberation of a forty-year-old man since he was a small child, but that's unusual even among Herald-trainees. Seldan himself is pretty sure he was once a hotheaded young fool, and the only reason he made fewer wild and insane decisions was moral luck and having a Companion. 

Apart from having a Companion, which seems unlikely to be in the cards for Brightstar, Seldan feels like the standard wisdom for surviving - and not getting other people killed - until you learn some wisdom and maturity is...having trusted friends and mentors with better judgement, and listening to them if they yell at you that you're doing something idiotic? Brightstar could definitely stand to do more of that. He's lucky to have friends who are very forgiving people, and Jisa might be herself a bit of a hotheaded young fool but she at least does have a Companion. It sounds like perhaps Brightstar was previously trying to use the Star-Eyed Goddess as his older and wiser mentor, which is - kind of understandable, that's got to be a rather common way of relating to one's god - but it does not, in fact, seem to have been a good idea. 

 

 

...Something is niggling at Seldan. Something about that the Shadow-Lover said, about - 

 

- oh! That it had taken an intervention to keep Leareth's soul out of Vkandis' hands.

Brightstar isn't a follower of the Shadow-Lover's god, but the Shadow-Lover didn't actually say that this wasn't done in collaboration with the Star-Eyed, and the timing must have been very finessed. If they'd gotten to Leareth sooner he might have lived, but in that case Vkandis would have Foreseen it and possibly found a way to do something even more wildly destructive. If they'd gotten to Leareth even ninety seconds later, he would have died in the records cache, not in Haven, and the Shadow-Lover might not have been able to grab him. So - it wasn't what Brightstar was trying to accomplish, and he couldn't have known, but it's possible that his decision to help did have some rather important consequences? Seldan isn't sure if this will help Brightstar to hear. 

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Honestly Blai does not really want to give Brightstar the advice "keep being stupid in just this way, it seems like it makes you useful for gods who are trying to do stuff and need a stupid person".

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Fair enough. 

 

What does Brightstar want to hear. Seldan is wondering this not because he thinks it's a good idea to tell Brightstar what he wants to hear, it very often isn't, but because it's occurring to him that he genuinely can't tell. It might be best if Brightstar could be convinced to just, you know, do fewer things for a while until he's 25 and has better judgement, but in Seldan's experience, or at least Seldan's vague-common-sense-recollection without any examples of specific cases, it literally never works to give that advice to hotheaded young fools. Blai is really not the right person to, like, say he forgives Brightstar and understands that mistakes happen, or whatever, even if that were the right thing for Brightstar to hear from anyone right now. Maybe Brightstar wants to apologize properly to the people actually close to him, and doesn't know how? 

...Or maybe Brightstar thought of some new insane terrible plan within thirty seconds of the vision, and is now trying very hard to improve on his past choices by actually thinking about whether it's a good idea? He has that sort of fidgetiness to him. 

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Oh no that's a very worrying prospect. Blai could... ask what was in the vision in more detail, but... presumably Brightstar would've volunteered this information if he wanted to share it?

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Not obviously! Or, well, not if he's torn about it. He feels to Seldan like someone who really, really wants to say something and also really, really doesn't want to, and so is talking around the edges of it while trying to feel out how Blai might react. Maybe he's anxious about being told he's an idiot again, maybe he's afraid that Blai will try to stop him, maybe he's just...not thinking that clearly because he looks pretty out of it from the godvision. 

Blai could just ask if there's something specific that Brightstar thinks might serve his Goddess but might just be him having terrible judgement? Brightstar might or might not say, but Seldan thinks his exact reaction would still be informative – if he goes all furtive and guilty about it then Seldan will be a lot more confident in the 'insane plan' theory and they pass on that someone had better be keeping a very close eye on Brightstar, whereas if Brightstar just looks blank then it's more likely he's trying to get an apologizing-to-Vanyel script or vaguely wanting to be told he's not a bad person just because he made a mistake or something like that. 

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That's a good idea. :Is there some specific course of action you're considering?: Blai asks.

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Brightstar freezes. 

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Ohhhhhh he absolutely is. Oh no.

Come on, Brightstar, you came all the way here to get advice like a sensible person, go on, just say it... Blai should maybe try to look as much as possible like someone who won't shout at Brightstar even if the plan is really, really dumb... 

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:I think I can figure out how to Gate to Golarion: Brightstar sends, staring at the floor. 

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:You do?:

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:...I think so.: Brightstar kind of looks like he wants to sink into the floor. :Jisa is trying and she said they can probably figure it out it in six months or a year. But it does not seem that difficult to me? It is just a search-spell and figuring out a planar route so it is not too far to Gate.: Self-consciously, :- I am very good at planar routing and search-spells. I am just - that was how I found Leareth's immortality spell - I am scared that all of my plans are bad and everyone will be angry at me.: 

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!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Seldan is probably in a second or two going to have a reaction more...words-y...than internal exclamation marks but that's all he has right now. 

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:If something doesn't seem difficult to you this might be because it is not difficult for you but it might also be because you are missing something: Blai says on near-autopilot. :If you can in fact find Golarion - it matters a great deal where on the planet you land - some parts are extremely dangerous -:

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On reflection Seldan can kind of believe that Brightstar is the one person on the planet (other than Leareth) who could figure this out and not consider it that difficult. He found Leareth's immortality spell! No one else had done that in two thousand years! 

 

They'd brought it up with Leareth and his plan had been to figure out interworld scrying before aiming a Gate anywhere in particular? So that would be good for Brightstar to know, but, uh, also it's probably premature to leap ahead to implementation details. The main thing is: Brightstar's plan would, based on the information they have and their best guesses, be really good if it worked! It could also be a disaster if poorly executed and so it was very sensible of Brightstar to seek advice before running off to try to be a solo hero about it, good job Brightstar, he's learning!

They should...probably have Brightstar be at the meeting later, and Jisa and Nayoki and maybe one or two of Leareth's top researchers can be present in order to sanity check whether Brightstar is fundamentally confused about some aspect of the problem and missing why it's actually difficult, Seldan isn't qualified to assess that, and if Brightstar's approach seems workable to them then he should do it with other people... 

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That all sounds sensible... Blai's so tired and might need to throw up his tea again in a minute so he's gonna hold very still to see if he can stave that off.

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Oh no. Seldan can take over. On this topic he's pretty sure he can address Brightstar without filling every word with sarcasm. 

 

:Brightstar: he sends, :that would almost certainly be incredibly valuable and save lives.: Quite possibly his own life and Blai's life and Van and Stef's lives in particular, if it makes the difference between solving this in a week or two versus six months. :Blai is right that it's risky even if you succeed, and you weren't aware of all the risks there, so - you did right coming to ask us about it first. But - I think it's a good thing to do, and I think your Goddess would agree if She could see better right now, and - it's not something you need to do alone. It'll be safer to work with Jisa and the others and have someone watching your back. We were going to meet tonight, so - I think you should be there, and we'll discuss it.: 

 

Seldan is also deeply not feeling up for personally supervising Brightstar for the rest of the afternoon until the meeting. ROLAN HEY YOU NEED TO FIND ENARA RIGHT NOW AND TELL HER TO GET JISA THE FUCK OVER HERE! NO ONE IS DYING BUT IT'S STILL KIND OF URGENT! 

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Seldan did not need to shout but Rolan can confirm that Enara will go pick Jisa up from the Work Room and bring him over. 

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Good.

 

Seldan will try to summon his best wise-mentor persona and try to say all the things that hotheaded fools who just got someone killed often benefit from hearing, delivered mostly without any snark, and do his best to stay awake and keep Brightstar supervised until someone else gets here and he can make it their problem. 

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Dara beats Jisa there. 

:Seldan, is it true? Brightstar claims he can figure out how to reach Golarion and - wants to -?: 

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Yes apparently that's what Brightstar claims. Can he please make Dara responsible for babysitting him until the Jisa handoff, maybe somewhere that isn't this room, his Herald needs to rest before they have the meeting tonight. 

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...Yes of course. Dara looks kind of stunned, but she takes Brightstar by the elbow and leads him out of the room. 

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Brightstar, also still looking kind of stunned, allows this. 

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Great okay now Seldan can flop. And actually pay attention to whether his Herald is okay and whether there's anything he can do to help. And flop. 

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Blai won the battle to keep down his tea. He curls up. He closes his eyes. Seldan is very good.

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Seldan is thinking, with something between warm sparkly smugness and deep trepidation, that this is really only going to add to the thing where everyone in Valdemar seems to be concluding that Blai is a brilliantly Wise advice-giver. 

 

....Zzzzz. 

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Shavri spends almost four and a half hours asleep in the Nap Stack. 

She wakes up - well, mostly she wakes up too ravenous to think about anything except finding something to eat and cramming it into her face as fast as she can, but after she's eaten the equivalent of three lunches or so, she has a mildly terrifying amount of energy. 

 

Van and Stef and Nayoki are all still asleep. It's been five hours, and the report she gets is that they all seemed to be benefiting a lot, especially earlier on - not just on fatigue in the normal sense, but some degree of active recovery on the problem that Lesser Restoration treats, not just the aspect they've been calling "Endurance" but also some other things wrong that she thinks a slightly differently-targeted Lesser Restoration could hit as well, if only they had unlimited castings a day, which they don't. 

They seem to have kind of reached the peak benefit, though, and any remaining deficit has had a chance to sink in deeper than natural recovery, even absurdly accelerated, can touch. And they're getting dehydrated. Shavri's going to call it there, though she'll have them carried out of the room and back to their own beds in the other room before poking them awake just in case someone wakes up disoriented and makes a noise that risks disturbing the sleeping Healing-staff. 

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Mrrghhhwhat oh it's Shavri. ...Wow. Shavri is looking very. Rested. Seldan is glad that worked out even if he's feeling pretty bitter that neither himself nor his Herald got to benefit from the spell, it was kind of his fault anyway for forgetting about the constraint until after Blai prepared it. 

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It's mostly Blai's fault since Blai is responsible for knowing what his spells do.

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Well, they're a team, so it's also on Seldan to keep track of things like that when Blai is distracted. He's not going to beat himself up about it, he was also distracted for good reason and they're new to being a team and he doesn't yet have a perfect handle on what kinds of things matter for Golarion magic, there's no Velgarth technique he can think of that only works exactly once a week on a given person. Anyway, they can consider it both their fault, and Seldan would like to do better next time. (Implementing any ideas to actually do better might not be doable when he feels like this, and maybe he's going to mostly feel like this until they both slowly die, but maybe not! Maybe Brightstar will get them a Gate! Seldan is focusing on the positive thoughts right now.) 

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Shavri putters around waking the people removed from the Nap Stack and harassing them with tea. 

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Mrghhhnnoowhat go away Medren five more minutes wait where is he. Oh. Oh no right they're here. ...Stef feels bizarrely not like he's dying though! He still wouldn't want to attempt to get up and make a fool of himself faceplanting on the floor, but he's incredibly thirsty and it only feels like a little bit of a bad idea to put fluids into his body. 

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Wow. That was a nap in Blai’s spell? Vanyel was really missing out. 

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Nayoki has been failing to think ahead, or at all, about so many extremely important elements of the situation! She’s just been lying around in a funk being sad about Leareth and throwing up a lot. What was wrong with her! Oh, right, the slowly dying of mysterious invisible wounds inflicted by a literal god, but that’s still no excuse!

She demands paper. She can sip tea after each line she writes, there, is the Healer happy now?

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Urghh so unfair. They’re practically chipper. 

Seldan drags himself more fully alert and pokes everyone including Shavri with a Mindspeech reminder that they were going to have a strategy-meeting tonight, and it seems to be tonight now.) At least he was right that this was going to be the best possible time for everyone else. 

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About that. Shavri actually wanted to -

Oh. Right. :Van, do your channel, you’re overdue.: Blai and Seldan can still hold enough life-force that they’re not in serious trouble after five-and-some candlemarks, but they’re probably feeling it a bit.

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Oooh all right that is a little better. 

- Blai and Seldan should get painblocking for this. The Healers must have capacity for it now that everyone’s had the equivalent of a ridiculously good night’s sleep. It’ll put them on slightly more even footing with all the chipper people who just got uninterrupted sleep. 

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…Shavri should have thought of that. Yes, of course, they’ve got capacity for it right now.

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It’s not as good as Remove Sickness but Seldan thinks he feels about 20% less stupid.

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Blai doesn't find himself all that impaired by pain but he's not going to turn it down if that little edge might help. He's sitting up. ...kind of up. Up enough to drink tea.

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Seldan thinks that most people are a little impaired by pain even well within their tolerance, though Blai admittedly seems less so than average.

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Aaaaaaaand time for the serious conversation.

 

Shavri looks around the room, trying to meet each patient’s eyes for at least a moment.

:I think this isn’t fixable with the resources we have to treat you: she tells them. :We can buy time, and we are. I can get you - another week, I think. I hope longer but I’m not sure of it. There’s damage to your - ability to defend against illness or infection, roughly - and the Lesser Restorations are delaying it but not keeping pace. You’re getting weaker every day. We don’t have enough spells to cover all the ways your bodies are being damaged. So…unless there’s a miracle, in the next week, I think this is the best you’re going to feel, and it’s downhill from here and - I’m sorry. I wanted to be sure before I said anything but I think maybe I owed it to you to say it sooner.:

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:Can we save some of us if we concentrate the Lesser Restorations more?: If Vanyel requires Stef to live and Blai is essential for anyone to live and needs Seldan that leaves... Nayoki, who can as an individual be written off? Shelyn seems - optimistic - about Vanyel? - but Blai might be reading too much into his empowerment; maybe She just wanted this last week of his life. Maybe it's cheaper than clericing someone who's going to live, though Blai has not actually heard about lots of old or dying people getting empowered for a few days of casting and then keeling over.

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:…Maybe. The issue is the spell doesn’t always hit as strong, it seems to be random, and I think it has to land perfectly to catch up on just the Endurance damage, and when it doesn’t, that damage gets…sunk in deeper? By the next day it takes more to combat it. The Nap Stack helped a lot, if we could do that every day - but we can’t.:

Shrug. :Do you have a spell to fight infection? That’s what will make the biggest difference in a few more days.:

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:Infection is a very serious problem on Golarion too. Remove Disease is third circle. We're very sure of the water we're drinking? I can Create some if we're not, that's always safe:

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Nod. :The well for the House of Healing should be all right, and most of what we're giving you to drink was boiled first for the tea, but I started having a mage sterilize it this morning just in case. Create Water would save time. I would consider putting you in separate rooms so you're not breathing the same air all the time, but we would need to recombine everyone for channels anyway and we can't separate Van and Stef or you and Seldan–: 

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:Mages can sterilize air as well as water: Nayoki contributes. (Mindspeech is tiring but speaking aloud is painful at this point and she's more motivated to avoid that.) 

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Nod. :We can do that, then. But - the problem is really that everyone has harmless little critters living on them - in your skin, your nose, inside your gut. Harmless when you're healthy, that is, but once the body's defenses are gone, not so much. And - the inside of your gut is slowly dying, that's why you feel sick all the time. The channels undo some of it - the parts most like an injury, I suppose, no one's been bleeding inside - but it's intermittent and it's not perfect and eventually something will get into your bloodstream. That's the part I really can't see how to stop.: 

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That's one of the most horrifyingly disgusting things Vanyel has ever heard and he really wishes it wasn't in his head now. 

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:We can try praying, about the Lesser Restoration quality. I think that is the kind of thing gods can nudge if they want to. I don't know if they'd want to:

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:Blai might get a second spell at third circle: Seldan adds. :Then we could keep four Lesser Restorations a day and still have room for one Remove Disease, for whoever's worst off.: 

 

Or they might get that miracle, the one Shavri mentioned in the abstract without hope in her mindvoice. None of the others in the room right know know about Brightstar's claim, how could they, they were asleep and more or less literally just woke up. Well, they'll know soon how likely it is, he's not going to say anything now. Jisa and Leareth's staff might have concluded in five minutes that Brightstar was missing the hard part of the problem and will be moderately helpful with enough supervision but not gamechanging, and it would take something gamechanging to turn a six-month timeline into less than a week

It's really too bad Shelyn can't count any of Vanyel's twenty years of extremely eventful combat-heavy experience as a Herald, when assessing how many cleric levels he's earned. Is praying to Her to bend the rules on that something that ever helps? 

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Shelyn is probably capable of elevating Vanyel to eighth circle by pure fiat - Abadar does this with the Pharaoh of Osirion to name a new one when his predecessor dies and Shelyn is not less ancient, to Blai's knowledge - but She'd have to be investing astoundingly heavily in this small group of people surviving. Her expenditures probably make less sense than Iomedaean or Abadaran ones but maybe not that much less sense. Maybe she only clericed Vanyel to make it easier to grab him and bring him to Nirvana, if She's got Yfandes waiting there. Maybe the Star-Eyed massively overpaid for that apology relay and made empowering Vanyel the most sensible route to deliver it. But retroactive credit for his combat experience, no, that's not a thing, if you're a wizard for two decades and then Nethys taps you you're a first circle cleric, it is presumably the same here.

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Rude. All they actually need is second circle, to double the– no, it wouldn't even double the Lesser Restorations available, they're counting on Blai using a higher-circle slot to make up the numbers and Vanyel gets fewer spell slots because he's not very Wise. And if it's an unusual and expensive thing to do then it probably won't happen anyway. 

...Maybe they do need to triage and give up on Nayoki. They need Vanyel for his six channels, or at least if they lose him they would need to pull Karis and Joshel both off the Iftel border situation and that might cost hundreds of other lives, so they need Stef, and of course if they lose Blai then no one else lasts through the next day, probably... 

:Thank you for telling us: he sends to Shavri, because it feels like someone should acknowledge it. 

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There is probably some tactful delicate way to tell Nayoki they are going to give up on saving her and she needs to tell Brightstar and Jisa anything she knows about Leareth's progress on the Gate.

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Seldan is honestly pretty deeply unclear whose call this is, and the final decision should...probably go to some mix of Shavri for the medical considerations, Jisa and Dara and whoever else representing Valdemar, and Leareth's org's other staff, and should not be made by any of the people currently dying and thus presumed to be somewhat impaired. 

...Nayoki might have been coming to some conclusions on her own. She's certainly been very seriously writing something - which is taking some doing, she looks like she's struggling to hold a pen at all - the entire time they've been talking. Maybe she's put together that any information in her head and not in anyone else's head, about Leareth's Gate research, needs to be dredged up and disseminated tonight, her best and probably last opportunity to be clearheaded. 

Shavri's going to be messed up about it but she'll be able to keep going. She kept going after they lost the three Healers. 

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Stef and Vanyel are snuggled up very close to each other. Neither of them has said anything. 

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Shavri also feels out of things to say. 

 

(She did the right thing. She was honest even though it's an awful thing to have to be honest about. It should feel more satisfying, she thinks. It should feel like anything at all.) 

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....Well, this is awkward. Clearly what they all need is a distraction, in the form of a bunch more people showing up for a meeting! Seldan will Mindspeak Rolan and ask where everyone is, they're ready. 

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That does sound better than this awkward silence.

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Then Jisa will be there five minutes later! With Dara, and Brightstar, and one of the mages from Leareth's research team, she didn't want to overcrowd the room. 

 

Jisa is glowing. Jisa is smug. Jisa cannot wait to see everyone's face when she makes the announcement. 

:We can get a Gate to Golarion: she sends. :We can probably do it in two weeks.: 

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...Oh no. That would have felt like enormously good news until ten minutes ago. And...it is, still, objectively speaking, enormously good news - until today they didn't know whether the 'replicate Leareth's Gate-research' angle was tractable at all, and then it could have been six months or a year - but. Two weeks is an entire twice as many weeks as one week which is what Shavri thinks they have. 

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Vanyel's face starts to light up in surprised joy and then...stops, as he presumably works his way to the same realization. 

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:Okay. If I die last, I can get a Gentle Repose cast on everyone except myself; it takes the same slot as a Lesser Restoration but we cannot make two weeks and may as well not try too aggressively to make it one and a half. That will reduce the cost of getting most of us up again if that still makes sense to do at that time. I will need to tell you what I told Leareth about where it is safe to land, and who to speak to. Do you want to see a summons - a weak one can displace a Remove Sickness instead of a Lesser Restoration and Leareth had thought it would be useful. I'm not sure I can draw even up to my usual poor standard while this shaky, can a Mindspeaker just extract map information from my mind for me to label and comment on -:

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Blai is so so so incredibly good and the best Herald and Seldan loves him and– that's enough being sentimental, focus. :I can bounce map information to whoever is the most skilled at drawing maps.: 

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:- That's definitely going to be Brightstar. And, yes, we'd like to see a summons. ...Does the first-circle version summon something intelligent enough to talk or answer questions in Mindspeech? - if not is it as intelligent as an animal, Featherfire has Animal Mindspeech and could still get something, Brightstar thought he could learn something useful that way.: 

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Brightstar is looking like he really wants to say something, but at Jisa's quelling look he keeps it to himself. He has pen and paper and can work on taking down a map. 

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:First circle summonses are as smart as animals. Second-circle ones include some intelligent options: Here for Brightstar is an annotated bad map of Golarion with areas marked anywhere from "basically fine for strange adventurers to land in and you'll be able to find a friendly church" to "just don't actually go at all if you can't be sure you won't land here". With less detail farther from the Avistan/Inner Sea area, but he assumes the other continents probably have comparable density of places not to land.

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It's seeming increasingly plausible that, if they're not going to make it anyway, it might be worth using the second-circle slots on summonses instead of Lesser Restorations. But if they've got an Animal Mindspeaker, then it's possible a first-circle summons is good enough, depending on what they're actually trying to learn, Seldan is not an expert in planar navigation magic and has no idea what Brightstar would be questioning the summoned creature about. 

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Jisa watches the map take shape on the paper. 

:Er, can we get some - visual senses of what places look like? I don't know, architecture style and what the plants look like and how people dress and things like that? Brightstar thinks he can aim a scrying search-spell for, um particularly dense arrangements of spell-construction elements that Blai's magic items have, and we thought that should hopefully be more likely to find cities, but it could take a lot of scrying attempts to figure out the spatial arrangement between them and line it up with a map, and Brightstar says it's going to be more tiring than scrying in the same world.: 

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Blai grew up in Dekarium, a city on this Chelish lake here, and can provide a visual of that. He has... seen woodcuts... and adventurers who were from various places but dressed for the Worldwound... if they want to aim for Sothis it's got a giant Rovagug-spawn beetle shell in it which is understood to repel magic, if that would be paradoxically easy to find?

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Well, they probably can't search for it directly unless Brightstar can figure out something very weird and clever, but that seems like a solid unmistakeable way to be sure that they're in a specific city! They should also get a list of other unique-on-the-planet easy-to-recognize geographical features, like, if there's only one city at the top of a giant mountain in a desert or something and it's either safe or definitely note safe? Is Sothis is safe to land in? 

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On that note, can Blai think of any easy-to-condense-down-to-a-short-paragraph pieces of cultural translation advice that might help the Heralds start off on a good foot with whoever they contact? He's not worried about the language barrier specifically, they have a lot of Mindspeakers available, more just...well, Blai hasn't failed to notice Velgarth's lack of much solid shared understanding of Law.

They have no idea how Brightstar reads but if he landed on Evil and isn't Lawful then that seems...bad...for getting diplomatic relations off the ground. Jisa is Good but also Chaotic, is that an issue? Should they be trying to send someone who specifically reads Good or Lawful? Would it help to send Joshel specifically in his capacity both as a Herald and representative of Valdemar and also as a cleric of Abadar? 

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Sothis is safe and has a high concentration of Abadarans. Absalom is safe and has the Starstone (although you do not want to land within, like, a couple blocks or something, of the Starstone, since it's in a famously lethal dungeon). Blai can't actually think of other safe+unique combinations like that, not that he's sure of, there could easily be duplicates of anything that comes to mind over on Tian Xia. People who aren't paladins or something don't go around Detecting Evil all the time, and by itself it doesn't mean that much. Joshel specifically might be useful if they aim for Sothis which is the capital of an Abadaran theocracy, but Abadarans will trade with anyone, that's the point of them, that's why they're so good to have around. Plus the Churches within and without Osirion are organizationally separate and Blai doesn't know how interfaces between Cicerones and Fiducias goes in practice. Besides, they have a lie detection spell.

Blai recommends explaining themselves as an adventuring party from another planet interested in making contact with both of the Church of Abadar and any representative of the archmage party (he's not sure which member will be most famous in Sothis, as two of them are Osirian and the group got its start there, and he's even less sure about their relative fame in Absalom) to alert a) the party, to a Chelish Constitutional Convention invited delegate being dead and on another planet and psychologically dependent on his new Paladin Horse From Space, b) the church, to diamond arbitrage opportunities and any resurrections that the archmage party doesn't feel like picking up. If they find Iomedaeans or Sarenrites or Shelynites first they can deliver appropriately modified messages, but it's Abadarans who Blai knows will find this the most interesting thing that has happened all week.

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Seldan will relay that! Sothis is starting to sound like the most sensible place to aim, if the most magical thing in Absalom is also a hazard to land too close to, and given the Abadaran theocracy and the fact that the archmage party started there. 

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:Do the famous archmages have, er, names? Or is 'the archmage party' going to be obvious to everyone because they're that famous?: 

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:They are extremely famous but yes, of course they have names. The new Queen of Cheliax took the regnal name Aspexia III; I'm not sure if she's better known under another name abroad. Arch-Healer Naima and her husband the Archmage Elie Cottonet. The Abadaran Inquisitor Shawil. And... some kind of odd sorcerer... the Archmage... ...Ione, I think?:

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Jisa will very carefully write that down. 

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Shavri has been mulling on the situation.

:Blai, if by chance they manage it when you're - not quite gone yet, but aren't able to answer questions - what exact spells would it take to repair damage that Lesser Restoration doesn't get? Is there anything lower than fifth circle, or I suppose fifth circle but not needing a diamond -: 

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Brightstar still really looks like he wants to say something. 

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:Restoration at fourth circle wants diamond dust - yea much -: An attempt at a mental image of the amount. :If this is a poison Neutralize Poison also fourth circle might help without such a component but I would not bet on it:

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Shavri will take her own turn to very carefully write that down. 

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Brightstar can't restrain himself any longer. 

 

:I could do it faster if you let me do it my way!: he bursts out, addressing Jisa but including everyone in the room. 

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:Brightstar, you can't experimentally place anchor waypoints! You'll accidentally Gate yourself directly into the Elemental Plane of Fire and die!: 

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:Not if I am very careful and very fast!:

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:If this is a Plane of Fire specific problem there are spells for that:

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What circle? Do they trade off against Lesser Restoration or just against Remove Sickness? 

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...The thought Shavri is having is very uncharacteristic for her but - no, she stares at it and it stays put and she thinks she means it. 

:We've got a channel in here every three candlemarks: she sends. :As long as Brightstar has some kind of - tether, or something - and isn't going to actually die in the Elemental Plane of Fire, it seems...probably worth taking some risks of serious injury? If he times it for around when we're due to channel in here anyway.: 

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THAT IS INDEED NOT A CHARACTERISTIC THING FOR HER MOTHER OF ALL PEOPLE TO SAY!!!! ...Jisa was...really hoping for more backup here on the matter of convincing her brother not to get himself recklessly killed in a misguided attempt to apologize for getting other people recklessly killed... 

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:If it takes more than a week we're going to need five Raise Dead spells anyway: Shavri points out. :Even if Brightstar manages to blow himself up in a way that can't be fixed by a channel, I'm sure he can be careful enough to make some progress first, and as long as you get it less than...what was it, a week?...after that, and you get his body back, it's just one more Raise Dead to get him back too. And if he's right and we can gamble on his getting it in only one week, then probably at least some of the people in this room are still alive, and it won't be as expensive to heal them as to raise them.: 

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....Blai does that actually seem logical or is Shavri completely missing some aspect of the situation. 

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Well, "just one more Raise Dead" is a hell of a thing to say if you aren't swimming in diamonds but Blai's not up to date on that. He doesn't know what the actual odds they're looking at are and those matter. But yeah if Brightstar shows up burned all to hell (Resist Energy is second circle, for the curious, and Protection from Energy is third, but he does need to know what kind of energy, it's not going to help if he casts it for fire and then Brightstar gets an icy part of the Plane of Water or something) then they can just channel about it probably?

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:Shavri, do we in fact have enough diamonds lined up to Raise the dead we already have confirmed and additional people?: Seldan sends, to the whole room.

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Shavri had been assuming that they obviously would? Lady Treesa apparently owns several items of jewelry with diamonds probably large enough for a Raise Dead, and she's just a random Valdemaran noblewoman. But she glances over at the mage from Leareth's organization who accompanied Jisa. 

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:We have 87 confirmed casualties whose bodies we were able to retrieve from the north and were planning to procure enough Raise Dead diamonds to cover them as well as Leareth, obviously, and Yfandes and the kyree casualties whose bodies we have secured.: A pause. :My understanding is that we need larger diamonds if it takes longer than a few weeks. I think we can eventually procure those but it may require opening a diamond mine specifically for that purpose.: 

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....Well, okay then, that answers that question. 

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The man glances at Brightstar again. :We can also provide shield-talismans for the experimental work. Ours are much better than anything Valdemar has, and there may be time for custom designs that imitate Blai's spell, if we can see a sample casting of it once.: 

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:I'll defer to the group consensus on when it would be best to prepare one in place of a Lesser Restoration:

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Jisa glances at the others. :I think we're going to want a summon tomorrow, and we might want the Protection from Energy the next day - it mostly trades off against a Lesser Restoration either way, right, so we might as well see the example of the stronger one?: 

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:At some point it's going to start trading off against Remove Disease, which is third circle: Shavri sends. :Unless Blai gets a second slot at third circle. We can probably still afford that in two days' time, but - if you think you're going to want it at some point, better not to wait.: 

 

Glance over at Blai. :...If we assume you deteriorate from here to dead over the next seven days, is there a point where you might become too weak or too confused to pray for spells, or to cast them properly?: 

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:In principle not necessarily, but of course if I'm completely delirious, can't regain consciousness, or can't move my hands or speak, that would do it:

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Nod. :Understood. ...You may end up too weak to move your hands, before the end, but - I think not very long before.: Speaking has got to be painful for him already, with the worsening mouth sores, but she hasn't noticed him flinching or delaying casting spells about it, so it seems like he can cope with that aspect. 

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Nayoki finishes writing and immediately gives up holding onto the pen and paper.

:I have written down all of the reference information and location instructions I am aware of for Leareth's prior work that is only in private notes.: That she knows about, of course, but Leareth trusted her to access his records caches, and had actually given her a list of documents to collect for him "sometime in the next few days" since he didn't expect to have a chance to get to it sooner, and then of course he never had a chance to get to it at all. :It is from memory, obviously, I had written it down but did not have it with me when we had to evacuate. But these are the research notes he said might be relevant for the problem. It might help you go faster.: 

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Oh. That's - wow - possibly Jisa should feel something other than absurd levels of excitement and !!!!!!! over getting to read Leareth's private unpublished magical research notes but !!!!!!!!!!!!

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:Thank you: Blai tells Nayoki when it's not obvious anyone else is going to get to it first.

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:I should really have thought of it sooner.:

Nayoki is so - not exactly tired-tired, she still feels like she's been stuffed full of extra sleep like a Midwinter-feast goose stuffed with chestnuts and apples, but...tired of this. Tired of being in pain and nauseous almost all the time, tired of finally managing to fall asleep through the discomfort and being woken half a candlemark later by someone else vomiting. Tired of - feeling alone, it's stupid how jealous she is of Blai and Seldan having each other and Van and Stef having each other, but there genuinely isn't anyone she would actually want with her who isn't either incredibly busy doing more important things or, well, Leareth. She's tired of half her thoughts bouncing off the abortive motion of 'oh I should remember to tell Leareth about that later'.

It's not that she likes the idea of getting snatched up by the Shadow-Lover god either, but - maybe at the very least They would make her soul talk to Leareth's soul, if They're still trying interrogation, and - then Leareth would see someone he knew. Seldan said he wouldn't remember any of it but Nayoki still kind of feels like it matters. 

 

:You and Brightstar should read my mind and go over all the conversations I had with Leareth about his work: she tells them. :Then I - I think I am the least necessary person in this room. And if you are only needing four Lesser Restorations a day, there will be more room for other spells.: 

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...Yeah. Seldan was right, they didn't need to have the awkward conversation at all, Nayoki was already most of the way there on her own. 

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...is there some customary form of euthanasia or do they just withdraw care and wait for her to crash on her own?

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That's a great question! How does Seldan have absolutely no idea what the answer to that question is!

 

He - suspects that Shavri will quietly approach Nayoki and ask her what she wants, and he's pretty sure that the thing Nayoki wants isn't to see how long it takes before the lack of daily Lesser Restorations means she can't hang on for three hours in between channels anymore, even if this would be kind of medically interesting to know. Shavri definitely has the skill to just...keep Nayoki asleep with Healing while she stops her heart. And, based on everything else he's observed about her lately, she has the stomach to actually do it. 

...Maybe he'll check with her later tonight and make sure she thought of it and informed Nayoki of the option. 

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That's more elegant than just having somebody cut her throat, yeah.

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....Indeed. (If Seldan has any other thoughts about this being what came to mind for Blai, he keeps them to himself.) Healing is handy that way.

Fun fact that Seldan learned through the Companion grapevine at some point: around ten years ago Vanyel used that trick to assassinate some renowned Adept on the other side of the war with Karse! Everyone shields against mage-attacks but almost no one walks around with shields up against Healing, why would you– well, probably Leareth did, because probably he'd been assassinated using that exact method at least once... 

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Jisa and Brightstar and Leareth's researcher go off to quiz Nayoki about the notes and read her mind for anything Leareth mentioned to her when thinking aloud that Brightstar might be able to make headway with. 

(Dara leaves; it seems like there's nothing much for the Heralds to do here, except the usual 'keep Valdemar running'.)

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Nayoki is being so very perfectly professional about interacting with Brightstar. 

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Vanyel spends a while watching them with a hard-to-read expression, and then eventually seems to decide he has no useful contribution to make. He curls up with Stef again and goes to sleep. 

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Seems like Blai and Seldan can probably go back to sleep too? They're not going to be needed until tomorrow morning, and - oh, he should tell Shavri that from here on out she had better wake them a little while before dawn and tell Blai in very simple words what to prepare. Today they would be able to remember the plan but...that could change, at some point, and better they already be in the right habits.

(To Blai: if it's the kind of thing that might help later if they're both a bit delirious but together can add up to an entire functional person, Seldan probably can stay in close rapport while Blai is praying for spells, the way he would if they were solving some kind of very difficult puzzle. He hadn't done that before because...he's not actually sure why, some mix of 'it felt like it might be private' and 'he's not entirely at ease around gods' but Iomedae is a very different sort of god.) 

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Blai doesn't think Iomedae will mind.

He snuggles up and sighs and goes to sleep.

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His Herald is very very good and...it's been a long time, actually, since Seldan remembers noticing any negative reaction in Blai's thoughts to having Seldan in his head? Seldan has mostly been having all his feelings where Blai can see them, whereas four or five days ago he had still been doing a lot of filtering because it all felt very new and delicate and he didn't have a good mapping of his Herald's sore spots. But Blai hasn't been...stressed about Seldan judging him for anxious thoughts (which in actual fact are almost all reasonable thoughts in a genuinely dire emergency, it's just that he doesn't seem to have a different emotional mode for non-genuinely-dire-emergencies), Blai doesn't seem to mind when Seldan is protective and at least acts like Blai's feelings definitely matter even if he's not harping on the point verbally... 

 

Also, if they're going to have the right habits to operate as a single functional person when they're both mentally worse off than this, he had better start building that habit properly. Fine. Full rapport at all times from here on. Maybe it'll help, who knows. 

 

He half-wakes some number of candlemarks later; it's the usual Healing-trainee harassment about drinking fluids. 

Nayoki isn't there anymore. 

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Ginger tea yes healing-trainee sir.

He registers Nayoki's absence, has three tired half-thoughts about bad things this could mean, and then remembers that they probably euthanized her and just hopes they didn't stupidly go bury her or something.

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Shavri knows the constraints just as well as they do. So do a lot of people at Leareth's organization who are desperately procuring absurd quantities of diamonds for resurrection. They've got it covered. 

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Shavri wakes them both five minutes before dawn, puts warm sweetened tea in Blai's hand and watches to make sure he can actually hold it - she's not sure - and gently but crisply goes over the spells they want a few more times. She'll leave some openings if Blai wants to interject, but she's carefully trying to set it up so that he doesn't have to, and will come away from it with a concrete list of spells to get even once he's too bleary to engage with any problem-solving. 

Create Water like they discussed, and Guidance and Stabilize. (He's got a much better chance of casting it if woken abruptly than Vanyel does, and also Vanyel is more likely to be the one unexpectedly dying; she doesn't go into her reasoning with Blai or Seldan unless they ask). On reflection, she wants four Remove Sickness, so Seldan can get the full hour for once. A second-circle summoning and three Lesser Restorations in his remaining second-circle slots. (Shavri spend a while debating this with herself, but her original plan of 'prepare Remove Sickness in a higher-circle slot to leave room for a first-circle summoning' seemed dumb given that the second-circle summoning is actually better.) A fourth Lesser Restoration in his third-circle slot, and if by chance he happens to get a second slot at third circle, Protection from Energy. (Shavri debated internally, and with Gemma, whether to go with that or Remove Disease, but no one actually looks like they have a disease yet, and by tomorrow they might, and they mainly want Protection from Energy for demo purposes so Leareth's mages can replicate it, it doesn't matter that much if Brightstar isn't ready to use it for actual Gates to the Elemental Plane of Fire.) 

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Blai nods and, head gluey, gets into an approximate kneeling position and reaches out for his goddess. He has all those orisons already. He's got Light in the fourth slot? Is that stupid? Should he switch it out? He could be doing Virtue on himself and Seldan even though Van and Stef are all the way over there... Summon Monster II. Four Lesser Restorations...

...there's his new slot. Protection from Energy.

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Seldan thinks Virtue has got to be more helpful than Light, they have mages who can cast Light, but he's going to get in the habit of checking things that feel obvious, because that's the right habit to have when you expect you might end up doing things while kind of delirious later. 

:Shavri is Virtue more helpful than Light?: 

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Shavri had actually completely forgotten that Blai has four orison slots!!! That makes sense. Virtue is better than Light.

 

(Oh that's wonderful that he has another slot! That could be really helpful later, if he can get two Remove Diseases a day then everyone can get one every two days, rather than once every four days, and at some point that won't be enough but it should, in fact, buy them time.) 

 

After Blai is finished, she's going to find out from him if he actually needs to be out of bed kneeling to pray. If it's important they can have the trainees help him once he's too weak to manage on his own, but if it's not strictly necessary then he should maybe just do it in bed starting tomorrow. 

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Today Blai is praying about triage. There's... lots of it happening here and that's probably interesting? He is not very smart right now but he has been trying to do that properly. He hopes it was not evil to euthanize Nayoki, it doesn't seem like it should be but Pharasma's Pharasma. Is looking at all the triage free even if She can't do anything? Maybe they'll do it right, and win everything. Or maybe they die and Brightstar blows himself up and nobody ever makes contact in which case he hopes he's been good enough to meet Seldan in Heaven. Does it cost intervention budget to grab Seldan into Heaven - like, if the alternative is the Shadow-Lover's weird limbo, that is, that doesn't have much effect on the material plane -

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Seldan is right here. He is also not very smart right now and mostly what he's thinking is that he has the best Herald. With a little digression of wanting to kick Pharasma in Her presumably-metaphorical god-teeth if She hypothetically objects to - he assumes it was Shavri - asking Nayoki what she wanted and giving her that. Seldan does not know exactly what happened and he hasn't asked because he very strongly suspects Shavri has no desire to talk about it. He has a few flickering thoughts about - he thinks he wrote a treatise that included a meditation on situations not entirely dissimilar to this, once, though it would presumably have been in a more military context because he wasn't a Healer. There are some interesting thought-experiment angles you can poke at it from. Seldan doesn't really want to right now. He's just glad they have Shavri and very glad that they got Shavri caught up on sleep, that turned out to be a great use of limited resources even if they'd forgotten it wouldn't help them...

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In some ways the best victory is a narrow one, where you spent only those things that turn out to have been indispensable. And that is the kind they are going to get here if they get one at all, Blai thinks. There is an appeal to the overwhelming curbstomp - it certainly has some virtues, like probably the effect on morale, and reduced casualties let you enter the next fight with more resources than if you were decimated, and - four Remove Sickness please - he forgets what he was going to think next, on that train of thought. Something about how it's better to barely win in two places at once than to curbstomp in one of them and - no, that only holds if they're of roughly equal importance? Maybe? - he apologizes for the somewhat incoherent prayers. He mentally mumbles through the rest of the spells he's asking for. Then he just kind of recites the poem about the destruction of Hell from the back of the book some twenty times, missing bits here and again because he doesn't have it properly memorized.

At Shavri's question - It is not strictly necessary, probably, for Iomedae, if you are in the process of dying, but it would feel weird. Which doesn't matter. He'll pray lying down tomorrow.

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Really if you’re trying to allocate your forces between two fronts you need the numbers, and the facts on the ground, it’s not a question that has a single clear shining answer in the abstract, it’s - you want to be thinking in probabilities, and often which front is more important to win isn’t certain either - and there are the various human foibles to resist, wanting a sure thing is one but clinging too tightly to your various resources when the entire point of having resources is that you can spend them when it matters - really a lot of mistakes come down to someone oversimplifying the situation in their head, slipping toward something more comfortable than uncertainties and bets…. Oh, gods, Seldan is too tired for this right now. He wrote a very good treatise about it once, he thinks. He wonders vaguely if anyone still reads it, no, it’s been six hundred years, his body of work would have been supplanted by some clever young upstart a few centuries ago…

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Shavri would like if Blai could do that. If it turns out to be a problem they’ll figure out an accommodation of some kind, but she’s worried that in another five or six days it won’t just be his legs that are too weak to stand, his heart will start struggling to move blood against gravity when he’s upright.

Brightstar wants his summons in a specially prepared Work Room, for some reason he did not convey to Shavri but can be assumed to be important. They’ll need to transport Blai there and back. Is he up for casting that spell very soon, before his Remove Sickness, on the thought that he benefits more from being able to hold perfectly still for the few candlemarks immediately after it.

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Yes, he can cast a summons now before his Remove Sickness and his meal, though hopefully they do not expect him to walk.

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They are absolutely not expecting him to walk. They’ll carry him just like they did for the Nap Stack, and Shavri is actually negotiating hard for them to literally use a short-range Gate, it's winter. Shavri knows Blai doesn't mind but she's entirely capable of minding enough for both of them. 

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Leareth's mages have absurdly good Gate-training (even if they cannot get a Gate up underwater in a fast-moving river in less than twenty seconds) so it's not even very costly, it's going to be responsible for a tiny fraction of the weather-working needed what with all the Gates he's sure they're doing to the Iftel border. Seldan spends three seconds wondering how Karis is doing before concluding he's too tired to ask for a report and there's no point in speculating. He's in favor of a short-range Gate over Blai being hauled through the snow; among other considerations, it should considerably shorten the duration of them being in different rooms. 

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Not being in different rooms is good. It still seems kind of mindbogglingly spendy to cast a Gate to go to the next building but, yes, right, they're not a ninth circle spell here.

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Yeah it's kind of bizarre to Seldan how in Golarion terms it would be an absurdly expensive spell even from one room to the next, though of course they wouldn't use Gate, they would use - what is it - Dimension Door? Really Velgarth Gates should be thought of as a single spell that can scale arbitrarily on power, up to whatever a given mage can sustain. You can raise a Gate to five hundred miles away, big enough to march an army through, and hold it for half a candlemark, if you really want to and are willing to nearly kill a mage for it. Savil did it when they retook Sunhame, apparently, and nobody could stop talking for months about how impressive it was... 

He hasn't seen Savil in here, unless it was when they were asleep. She's close with Van, so he would have thought - oh, right, with Van down she's the best remaining expert in working through their reduced-functionality Web to report on the border situation. She's probably incredibly busy, that's all. He hopes she's all right, and that they don't regret the decision later to have the senior Heralds spending all their time on the emergency and Savil not getting to see Van much if at all, when there's a good chance he's going to die and decent-but-not-guaranteed odds that they eventually get him back. 

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Now that they've decided on this plan, Shavri really doesn't want to make Blai's daily nutrition wait too long on it. She harasses people in Mindspeech until they have confirmation that the room is ready and a mage will Gate him. 

Brightstar wants to know exactly how long the spell takes to cast and how long it will last. 

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Six seconds to cast and it should last more than half a minute now that Blai's got the new slot and his Remove Sickness is coming up on an hour. Maybe 35, 36 seconds. Is an elemental suitable? What kind does he want?

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He wants a fire elemental if that's possible. He was quite specific about it. 

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(A rather important piece of the puzzle here is whether Velgarth and Golarion are adjacent to the same Elemental Plane of Fire, just - distant parts of it, or someone from a school like White Winds would surely have heard of the other world from one of their summons. Anyway, Brightstar gets along by far the best with the fire elementals, he's summoned some of them in preparation. With a less intelligent summoned elemental, he would have needed to resort to more guesswork, but as it is he's hoping that even a very short conversation will be enough for his summoned elemental and Blai's summoned elemental to determine if they come from the same plane. If he's very lucky they might even have some rudimentary form of reckoning. He's set rather a lot of elementals to do preliminary research for him, but Fire is going to be hardest to build a waypoint structure in, and part of what he wants to ask is for permission to attempt to do so in the 'region' Blai's elemental is summoned from. The plane is hostile enough to material-plane residents without the locals being angry with him over it too.) 

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Blai doesn't speak Ignan. It's possible to more or less mentally direct a summon to fight, but he'll have to like, nod, to confirm to it that he agrees with whatever let's-sit-and-talk proposition is offered to it via Mindspeech.

That understood: "Summon Monster."

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(The advance setup was mostly laying out various focus-artifacts that will let a dozen of Leareth’s mages watch the casting from outside the room and…write down everything they can measure? Brightstar did not really follow it. He would just project his mind to follow the magical link from the elemental’s summoning construct-body to its real form back home. He has no idea how they plan to do it with math, but it’s admittedly safer, and he can spend the summons on a very fast conversation instead.)

The elemental will be summoned into a stone room with very magically shielded walls, full of very magical (but very not-Golarion-style) artifacts, and also three humans: Blai (on a litter on the floor, they’ll scoop him up when they’re done), and a young man and woman both glowing with absurd quantities of magical energy from the White Winds Adept spell. (Jisa is here for Mindhealing Sight, in case that’s helpful for learning anything, and also as another White Winds-trained Adept. The Adept spell apparently makes them look very interesting and compelling to elemental denizens, at least of the elemental planes as known in Velgarth.)

Also half a dozen other fire elementals, in the mage-energy-construct bodies that Velgarth summonings use.

(Being with his summoned fire-elemental allies is cozy. None of them are mad at him.) 

:Welcome: he sends. :I am not your summoner but I am a mage from a world not the one you are usually summoned to. These are my summoned allies from the Elemental Plane of Fire adjacent to this world. I wish to learn if they are the same Plane of Fire and if so the relative positions. I do not know your traditions but here it is traditional to offer a gift of mage-energy in exchange for aid. The aid I ask is to answer some questions about your home and hear a proposal.: 

Mindspeech is very fast - at the speed of thought, and Brighstar planned this out exactly. It takes four seconds to deliver. Blai was included in the Mindspeech, and Brightstar taps him with a mental touch to confirm that he’s said his piece and Blai can now…complete whatever contract or agreement is traditional for his world’s spellcasters when they summon elemental denizens? He’s curious to see how it works.

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Blai gives the elemental a shaky nod, when it turns his way, and then it turns its attention back to Brightstar, and then to the other fire elementals.

The summoning paradigm is completely different, so Blai's elemental cannot meaningfully accept mage-energy. It sniffs the other elementals.

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Aww but that’s such a straightforward way to make friends, what is the elemental actually getting out of this summons if it can’t take presents home  Clearly this other thing is the tradition there and Brightstar will accept that. (His elementals are very particular about their own traditions.)

:Our summoning and thus the construct bodies are different, but apart from that, do you recognize their kind?: he asks Blai’s summon.

(His elementals were instructed in advance to be friendly and try to find out if they share a language with the new arrival.)

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Awwww cute.

Summoned minds are always really weird to Mindhealing-Sight, like only part of the information is where she can see it, which makes sense given that the rest is in another plane.

Allowing for that, and for possible differences in summoning technique: does Blai’s summon show up at all? And do they look even vaguely similar enough in that they could be related kinds of energy from the same sort of place?

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Blai's elemental tries saying something, which amounts to: "Hey! Hey you! Ignan! Ignan, yeah?"

Its mind is projected here the same way its body is. It's got a simple, almost childlike mind, a radially symmetrical garden of flames, but she can see most of it.

Energetically speaking, fire as understood by Golarion magic is one thing - one kind of energy, one kind of damage, one class of spell. The elemental is made of that.

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That is a completely different language and his elementals don’t understand it, which could just mean they’re from very, very far away. Leareth’s people are taking measurements of some kind on the magical link, seeing if they can get an “angle” and “bearing” and some other math words Brightstar didn’t understand at all, which could let them get an approximate “direction” if it’s the same Elemental Plane of Fire, or could disconfirm that if the results they get are nonsensical enough.

…They look like the same kind of thing to Brightstar, modulo the fascinating differences in summoning technique and that his are cleverer, he picked them out carefully. It could be that it’s convergent and they’re from two completely different Elemental Planes of Fire with almost identical properties but not contiguous? That seems bizarre though.

Less than twenty seconds left.

:What is your home like?: Brightstar asks. :Do you like it there?:

He’s trying to get something off Blai’s elemental with Thoughtsensing, that he can bounce to his allies and see what they make of it.

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It's hot! And bright! It's mostly purple! There are bigger elementals there! And ifrits!

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Bounce to his elementals, do they recognize -

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Jisa knows this one!!! King Valdemar as in the founder of Valdemar is supposed to have summoned one once to fight some bloodpath mages threatening the newly founded city! It’s admittedly one of the many “King Valdemar did blah” stories that are at this point very hard to confirm, but she’s pretty sure that ifrit exist in their Elemental Plane of Fire and are at least sometimes summonable and just, like, probably you shouldn’t, unless you’re literally King Valdemar, because they’re a lot more powerful than you and you as a squishy human probably can’t offer them anything they want.

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If they’re very powerful and especially if they’re long-lived they might travel further and maybe Brightstar could— there are probably safer ways.

:I am grateful for your help: he tells the little elemental. It feels so rude not to be able to offer it anything!!! :I may wish to build a spell-structure in the Elemental Plane of Fire nearer where you are from. It will not be dangerous and I will tread lightly. Will you tell your fellows not to be alarmed if they see this?:

If it reacts like this is the worst idea in the world then that would of course be good to know too.

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Dunno dunno, thinks the elemental. It is not in charge of anything.

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That’s much better than getting freaked out about the concept! Brightstar will take it as generally encouraging. 

He expresses some more gratitude until the summons ends, because it still feels very weird not to be able to offer it a gift. 

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Jisa is much less reluctant than Brightstar to question other traditions. What if they’re dumb! 

:So what’s in it for the elemental, when you summon it?: she asks Blai brightly when the spell ends. :Here we give them a gift but yours didn’t have any way to accept mage-energy and take it home.:

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:I'm not sure. I have heard some guesses to the effect that there are places in the planes from which summonses come where summonses work, and others where they don't, so they can choose where to be at any given moment:

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:Oh, that's an interesting way to do it, I guess you'd mostly get the really adventurous ones...: Blai does not look super up for conversation, does he. 

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Also if they're all done with him Shavri would like her patient BACK now please. Brightstar can come by later to get his shield cast - or tomorrow ten minutes before dawn, if that's a more useful time for it - but should Mindspeak her first and not just barge right in, please. Oh good there's the mage for the Gate. 

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Blai was behind Work Room shields for ALMOST AN ENTIRE MINUTE and Seldan didn't like this at all! ...Did it seem to go well and be helpful at all? 

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Maybe. They had some conversation with the elemental. It's gone home now. They didn't look like they had discovered something completely research-ruining.

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Aaaaand now seems like an excellent time to start rotating through the Remove Sicknesses! Blai can go first. Seldan gets a whole hour this time! Van already used his ten-minute one on himself literally the moment he finished his hour of prayer, because it was the only thing Shavri could think of to motivate him to stay awake for the hour. At some point it's going to stop being worth it - well, at some point he's going to stop being capable of casting and at this rate it might be tomorrow and at that point she might as well let him sleep if he gets his channels either way. Unless it would upset Shelyn? She should probably check that, actually. 

:Blai, would it bother Shelyn if we don't try to wake Vanyel to pray in the mornings once he's too weak for the gestures to cast them anyway?: 

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:I'm not an expert in what bothers Her. It makes sense to me and won't affect his channels if it doesn't make Her renounce him altogether, which would surprise me if it happened. Dawn itself should wake him and if he goes back to sleep rather than pray I should think this would be between him and Her:

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:Mm. As long as he can cast spells at all it seems worth it if he needs some handholding to stay focused for a candlemark, he can handle casting Virtue on himself and Stef to cover half a candlemark if someone's cueing him and I think he's using Guidance a lot to - help him cope. And it's motivating that he can use the short Remove Sickness as soon as he's done, now that we're not trying to save all the little ones to stack for Seldan. But I'll leave it up to him once he - once he's getting spells he can't use anyway.: 

Here's his extra-nutritious extra-runny porridge. Shavri isn't sure at this point how much real nutrition any of the patients are getting from the food, but eating something has still got to be better than eating nothing. 

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Seldan is (drowsily) on alert for any sign that today is the day that feeding himself is too tiring for Blai and they should get someone to help him. 

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He might slop a little down his chin but he can pick up the bowl, with both hands, and drink it, once he's cast his Remove Sickness on himself.

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He gets his almost-exactly-an-hour nausea-free and as many porridge refills as he can manage and then exactly fifteen minutes of a somewhat distracted Shavri abusing the throwing-up-is-banned Healing trick and trying to convince his stomach that food should keep going further down, before she has to rotate off to give Gemma a break on painblocking for Seldan. 

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Who is agonizingly bored of only eating soft grain mash. It doesn't have any satisfying texture to it! He would immediately regret the interesting texture as soon as the painblocking stopped but that doesn't prevent him from missing it. Does Blai want distraction chess or is that too much today. ...Mmmrgg it might be too much for Seldan unless they do the tiny chess variant, he can probably still keep track of the mental board for tiny chess. 

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Maybe there's some kind of... chess solitaire... that they could collaborate on... but he doesn't think his book had any that he could dredge up the rules for.

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Maybe it will somehow turn out that the Heralds all need a Nap Stack again once it's been another...two days??...and it'll be the best use of a third circle spell and Seldan might get an entire six candlemarks of being able to think properly and he can come up with some rules for solitaire chess. He used to love coming up with rules for games, he thinks, he - doesn't actually remember what for but it's not a bad way to teach fourteen-year-old boys to ever think about strategy. 

Until then, maybe just being in rapport and flopping? 

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The rest of the day passes. Vanyel is cranky about being shaken awake every three candlemarks for the channels but it's not like she wouldn't be shaking him awake anyway to drink tea. 

Shavri confirms to Blai that Brightstar has requested his Protection from Energy tomorrow morning right before dawn, so he can use it for something she wants to do. Shavri didn't ask what he wants to do and just told him that during the candlemark after dawn is a particularly inconvenient time for him to show up having exploded himself in the Elemental Plane of Fire and needing an urgent channel. ...When do the new channels come in, actually, if it's right at dawn they'll just get a less effective use of one (because it's before the daily Lesser Restoration) but if it's at the end then Brightstar really cannot explode himself then, they'll have used up everyone's channels getting through the night. How long does Protection from Energy last again. 

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As long as a Remove Sickness or until it's used up. Channels should come in at dawn sharp but using one interrupts prayers. ...if Iftel is in a different time zone they may be able to pull something cute with grabbing Joshel through a Gate.

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Oh can you do that? Neat!

...Unfortunately Iftel is both east and north and she thinks those differences in time-of-dawn go in opposite directions? And Joshel is only on the Valdemar side of the Iftel border, the difference won't be very much later.

Last she heard Karis was in the very northwestern part of Iftel. (They think it's approximately where the attack originated and they are both in worse shape and might have witnesses to talk to about what they witnessed.) Dawn is going to be later where she is, though, so she might not be praying but she would need to have saved a channel the whole day and night and that's costly to ask of her, and she's not sure if it would still work to ask Karis tonight, as a favor, to go be in the far southeast corner instead where dawn is as early as possible and she might have already finished her morning prayers when Brightstar starts his...whatever it is. But if that would work then she'll look into it. 

...At worst she'll interrupt Vanyel and he gets whatever spells he's already gotten, his spells aren't critical. 

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Mmhm.

Ginger tea. Flop.

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Flop. 

 

It's a very long day and a very long night but nobody dies. 

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And ten minutes before dawn Shavri wakes Blai. She has Brightstar with her to get his Protection from Energy. Vanyel has been warned that it's possible his prayers will be interrupted by the urgent need for a channel and it's okay if this means he doesn't get all of his spells. 

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Blai wearily waves his hand through the air. A wizard would not be able to cast like this - he probably can't do Prestidigitation - but the cleric gestures are broader and more forgiving. "Protection from Energy."

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It's so beautiful! 

(Three of Leareth's mages are discreetly hovering to watch the actual casting. They fully agree.) 

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Dawn. 

 

Vanyel is supposed to pray and he's also been told he might get interrupted and that it's okay if he doesn't get spells, which is kind of mixed messages in terms of whether any of this matters literally at all. 

He is having an extremely hard time praying, both the remembering what spells to ask for and the thinking about music and love and nice things like that part, because at this point it's been days of abject misery and things were already very very bad and it's getting to the point that he's kind of constantly having intrusive thoughts about how he could just stop his heart with Healing and then he wouldn't be alive anymore. 

He can't, of course, because Stef, and because he has three times as many channels as Blai for some inexplicable reason and so they need him desperately and dying would be equivalent to killing everyone else with his own hands, and also it wouldn't even work because the Healers would notice right away and Blai would cast Stabilize. It might just actually be impossible to succeed at killing himself when there's a second person in the room who can cast Stabilize and he just - 

 

Guidance. Stop it, snap out of it. I'm sorry, Shelyn, I don't actually - they need me here - but it's hard and maybe none of this matters and I, I don't know if I can... 

He doesn't have an ending to that sentence because none of the endings are allowed. 

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…He’s keeping the same orisons and he wants Remove Sickness and...the other one...he still has the other one, Shelyn should perhaps be aware that he has no idea what the other one is for and isn't going to try to cast it at random to find out, but he can keep having it and not-casting it. It's going to be so upsetting if he can't even cast Remove Sickness because his hands don't work, it kind of feels like his hands might not work, but he can at least try...

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Shavri spent the night— well, mostly asleep, actually, and not even a room over, Gemma pointed out that there were unlikely to be surprises at this point and they can be nearly certain tonight is not when anyone will start dying. 

They’ve done the spells Brightstar needs. He did say hopefully, as he was leaving this morning, that maybe they could do a different plane elemental summoning today, but in a sort of wheedling 'well, if there happens to be space since he has the extra spell...' way that did not leave Shavri feeling like he has a solid plan to make the maximum possible use out of whatever information it gives him. 

She wishes if she knew whether there were other useful spells at third circle. It's too early for anyone to benefit from a Nap Stack, though she really does want to try to squeeze it in tomorrow - even if it's only Blai and Seldan who can benefit, they can incidentally get the rest of the Senior Circle too - unless both Van and Stef both manage to get pneumonia by then and won't make it another day without a Remove Disease each. The air-cleaning precautions won't protect them from everything that lives normally-harmlessly in their own mouths, and that's often what gets the elderly and infirm in the end, even if they meticulously avoid colds and flus, they're too weak to cough and keep their chest clear and something migrates down and moves into their lungs. Continuous monitoring by a Healer to burn out incipient infections before they get too deeply-rooted, but it helps a lot when the patient’s body retains any natural defenses. Randi did, until nearly the end, or a pneumonia would have taken him out years ago. Her patients are already worse off than that and it’s only going to keep getting worse.

But a Remove Disease doesn’t work by boosting the native defenses, it just…removes the disease. No one in fact has an infection yet, won’t help with an illness that someone is predictably going to come down with tomorrow.

She ends up asking Blai to prepare six Lesser Restorations, all of his second circle and both of his third circle spots. They can double them up on Van and Stef, try to hit Strength as well as Endurance. It won’t save them from an infection in the gut but at least they’ll have the strength to cough properly and a better chance of toughing out a night with pneumonia while they wait for a Remove Disease spot. She leaves Blai an opening to mention if there are other third circle spells for healing - other than Remove Disease which they don't actually need yet - but she’s happy with the plan.

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Remove Disease and Remove Blindness/Deafness which they already know about are the third circle healing gamechangers. He'll prep Lesser Restoration a lot. While lying down. This is WEIRD lying down while he prays. WEIRDDDDD.

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It's weird for Seldan too! You wouldn't think that he would have as many associations with the correct way to pray, given how new it is, but apparently a week was long enough to get very used to a certain way.

He'll be there in rapport the whole time, offering his own fragmentary prayers of information that might be of interest to Iomedae. 

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Brightstar does not explode himself in the Elemental Plane of Fire!

 

Leareth's mages want to spend half a candlemark running tests on the Protection from Energy shield - not ones that will use up the spell, just trying to get a sense of what it's doing. It's actually very different from the standard Velgarth shielding you would choose if you expected to be blasted with fire! They can't replicate it exactly but the fundamental concept doesn't seem to rely on it being specifically a divine spell provided by a god. 

Then Brightstar tries to open what more or less amounts to a one-sided Gate directly to the Elemental Plane of Fire (from a very very well-shielded Work Room) and drop a test scry-focus artifact through. It won't survive there, and in any case it's the 'closest' spot he can reach and not attempting to get it to where Blai's summons came from, but how long it remains scryable and what fails first will apparently be helpful to Leareth's mages. 

 

 

Jisa and several of the mages carry him over to the House of Healing. He's pretty badly burned - the problem wasn't the time needed to fling a mage-artifact, it was that it turns out to be pretty hard to close a Gate to the Elemental Plane of Fire - but Shavri ducks out into the hall to glance at him and declares that he's not going to die in the next twenty minutes and he can wait until everyone is done praying and the patients have had their Lesser Restorations in order to benefit fully from Van's first channel of the day. ...She will somewhat grudgingly agree that he can have painblocking for the wait. 

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Blai almost falls asleep again as soon as he feels Iomedae's presence back off at the end of the hour. Is there... a thing he needs to be awake for... does he need to cast some of these right away...

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Yes Shavri is right there to nudge him about casting Lesser Restorations. Two each on Van and Stef, please, targeted to Endurance as usual and then Strength, and the usual one each for himself and Seldan, and then Vanyel can channel for everyone. "Everyone" includes Brightstar and also three random House of Healing patients who came in with broken bones and have been carefully checked over and confirmed not to be ill with anything contagious. It shouldn't be that high a risk, given the mage in the corner continuously circulating the room's air through a bizarre hoop-shaped artifact that Leareth's organization apparently possessed and murdering anything alive in it. But Shavri is inclined to be cautious. 

If that gets Blai feeling perky enough to want to use his Remove Sickness right away and eat something, that's great, but if he's still sleepy then Shavri will let him nap for a candlemark or two first. 

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He's up, he's up. Lesser Restorations six in a row. That does feel a little better. He might as well eat now if there's a bowl of porridge ready.

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Vanyel is capable of rolling over in bed again! It turns out that it's possible to feel a really shocking amount of gratitude for the small things, in a situation like this. He's still shaky and clumsy and having trouble doing anything precise with his fingers, but the spell gestures at at least somewhat forgiving of shakiness and it's easier to compensate for it by focusing really hard on precision when it's not already taking every ounce of willpower he can muster just to lift his hand a few inches off the bedspread. 

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Bowl of porridge! Starting tomorrow they may have to go to clear liquids only, the patients' guts are dying and the channels are patching it just barely enough to keep them from being one giant open wound on the inside but they're not, really, enough to keep the tissue able to digest, and they're going to want to start minimizing how much is in there before it gets to the point that it's feeding the gut bacteria that will eventually kill her patients more than the patients themselves. But for today she thinks there's still more good than harm in a properly nutritious meal. 

She doesn't need anything from them after that, not until Vanyel runs out of channels sometime around midnight. Blai can cast Virtue on himself and Seldan if he wants, if there are periods when he feels able to stay awake for a few minutes at a stretch to give the Healers a break, but they're not relying on it, and he needs to be up for ten minutes or so of keeping it up continuously before it's even worth the Healer taking a break, given how much effort it takes to get a stable Healing-link up in the first place versus maintaining the existing one. 

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Brightstar shows up twice more for channels. They're testing the prototype shield-artifacts and a prototype miniature Gate-threshold with a set-spell that makes it easier to shut it down when he's done. Brightstar is coming in with third-degree burns on most of his body but he's not, actually, being reckless enough that he's in any real danger of dying before Jisa can haul him back into the House of Healing, and Jisa is making sure that he's timing it for around when Vanyel is due to channel anyway. 

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Seldan is only slightly following at this point but it sounds like one really can make faster progress at dangerous research, if anything that definitely won't kill you inside of five minutes is more or less safe. He doesn't know their current time estimate on a successful Gate. Maybe they'll be in time. 

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If Brightstar weren't taken Blai would expect him to wind up belonging to Nethys any minute.

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Seldan is kind of getting the feeling that Brightstar may be, uh, using the research as an opportunity for self-harm because he feels really guilty about his role in getting Leareth and Yfandes and a bunch of kyree and a whole lot of other people killed? But it is, actually, really important, and if he succeeds then maybe he'll be able to tell himself that he did his penance and fixed it and can move on? Anyway Brightstar's emotional wellbeing isn't really his problem. Hopefully they've got his sister giving him lots of hugs in between the parts where he inflicts horrible burns on himself. 

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....Shavri is detailing a second Healer per person to park themselves in place and focus 100% of their attention on finding and murdering the heck out of anything that could even start to become an infection. It takes pretty senior Healers for it, because they need the Sight-training to block out the patient's life-force to focus on the much smaller and dimmer life-forces of things growing on them, but if you can get to them when they're only growing on a mucus membrane and no deeper, it's feasible to murder them without touching the patient's life-force at all and then it doesn't risk running into their stamina-for-being-Healed problem.

It should be enough to hold off pneumonia and infections that originate in the skin. Which won't save them forever but it should buy them another day before Remove Disease is an absolute necessity. 

 

(It's a lot of senior-Healer time, but all six of the people she's pulling in for it were in the first Nap Stack in Haven, which means they missed the most recent one and can be included in the one tomorrow. She's got Lady Treesa working on another pillow, though at this point they've run through even Lady Treesa's copious backstock of unnecessarily fancy fripperies to sew onto pillows and had to get Leareth's organization on procuring more from Seejay. Honestly, Leareth's organization probably has someone better at making unnecessarily fancy pillows, too, but they're not in that much of a rush and it makes Lady Treesa so very happy that there's a way for her to contribute. Shavri probably needs to let Vanyel's mother in to see him at least once if it looks like they're...not going to make it...but she knows that Vanyel doesn't actually particularly want his parents hovering and fussing at his bedside, and for now Shavri is very pleased to have a way for Lady Treesa to help her son from somewhere else.) 

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She made Vanyel a gorgeously beaded bird that won't fall apart if he touches it wrong! She did not particularly follow the explanation of why this would help him do magic when he's never needed it before, apparently there was a god involved? Somehow? But it doesn't matter. Her son has rather austere tastes, she thinks, but she made it so he would approve. 

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Jisa comes by late that night to talk to Shavri about their research. 

They've made genuine progress! They know, approximately, what 'bearing' Golarion is on, relative to the Void and the Elemental Plane of Fire - or rather, it's a complicated higher dimensional math problem that Jisa doesn't know enough math to understand, but the mage told her to imagine it like how she would target a blind Gate off a bearing. But it's really, really far away, and they're going to need to do something much cleverer to cut the distance to something even a team of mages off a powered permanent Gate-terminus can handle.

...And she's telling Shavri this because there are a couple of different ways that Blai's higher-circle spells could really, really help. One would be getting a variant casting of Protection from Energy against a different kind of energy, if there's one that would help Brightstar survive brief direct exposure to the Elemental Plane of Water or the Elemental Plane of Air. Another would be getting a second summoned elemental from a different plane. 

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....She'll see if Blai-and-Seldan are coherent enough at their next mandatory tea-consuming wakeup and if so she'll ask about it and let Jisa know.

 

A candlemark or so later she's nudging them awake. :Blai. Hey. Need you to wake up for a minute. Here's some tea.: She's gotten them a cup with a sort of spout, so it's a little easier to hold without spilling. :...Jisa asked me what other forms of energy you can cast a Protection from Energy for, and whether any would help with surviving the Elemental Plane of Air or of Water. If not they want another summon. She specifically asked me if there's a third circle summoning that either gets a smarter elemental or lasts longer. We could still spare a third circle slot for it tomorrow, I think, after that we're going to need both slots for Remove Disease.: 

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Tea. Sip sip. :The summon spells will all last the same amount of time and going from II to III is not enough to get a bigger smarter elemental. It is enough to get a lantern archon but those are for all that they are angels not rumored to be very clever either - and I'd worry that it has intervention budget effects on Heaven. For a plane like Air or Water you'd want Planar Adaptation, fourth circle, because Protection from Energy relies on the damage being from a specific type of energy, though if he happens to know that the danger is cold or electrical specifically, I can do that:

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:...I assume this can't possibly work but just to check, you can't in fact use a summons to summon something from the material plane to a different part of the material plane that's very far away?: This is probably an incredibly stupid question for reasons that would be obvious if Shavri were a mage, but the only cost to asking it is three more seconds of bothering Blai and looking like an idiot. 

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:No:

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:I'll talk to Jisa before you need to prepare spells. - I'll tell you the full list at the time: in fact, she's going to WRITE IT DOWN in GIANT VALDEMARAN TEXT in Seldan's line of sight, it won't help Blai who can't read Valdemaran script but Seldan is in rapport and can probably, like, keep it in their working memory without it counting as interrupting Blai's prayers, :but I'd like to fit in a Nap Stack. We have a pillow and tomorrow it'll have been a week for you and Seldan, plus everyone else who was in the first one. Unless I'm missing another reason why it won't work or it's a terrible idea.: 

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....Seldan would not swear to tomorrow being exactly a full week after the first Gate but presumably Shavri is more capable of reading a calendar. It's in fact a week, as in seven days, weeks are the same length in Velgarth and Golarion? Does the time of day matter, he can't remember if the last Nap Stack was cast first thing or later than that. 

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There can't be a seven day period in which you get a stacked nap twice. Blai is... not actually sure if time of day matters. Usually pillows are a limiting factor. Anyone important enough to be chewing through expensive pillows like that has a Ring of Sustenance.

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...They can play it safe by casting it in the evening tomorrow, after it's been a full 24 candlemarks times seven since the end of the last one. Honestly that's probably better for everyone maintaining a vaguely sensible sleep schedule anyway. Not that Blai or Seldan have a sensical sleep schedule, at this point, but for the Senior Circle Heralds. 

Seldan relays this to Shavri and then goes back to flopping. 

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:Hey Brightstar. Hey everyone else. Can we get useful data from observing a summoning of an, uh, lantern archon? From Heaven? It's an afterlife. Alternatively, there isn't a Protection from Energy against 'air' or 'water' but we can get one against electricity or cold. If that's helpful.: 

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The Elemental Plane of Water is in fact pretty fucking cold but Brightstar isn't planning to go swim around in it personally, they're not trying to get there, they're trying to find a mapping of "adjacent" elemental-plane-to-Void points to cut the total "distance" through the Void. They already know how to make artifacts that can survive a few candlemarks sitting in the Elemental Plane of Water and anchor a search-spell. 

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Cold isn't an ontologically basic form of energy?????? In what magic system are fire, electricity, and cold the same kind of thing that the same spellform can protect against by swapping out a single variable?????? 

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:- Hmm. Do you think it could help to get your imitation of the fire version down to something more energy-efficient if you can see the version that does cold and test it to destruction?: 

(They have a prototype talisman. It does something no Velgarth mage-talisman has ever done before, which is pretty cool, but it's also insanely inefficient on power drain. One of Leareth's people told Jisa that they could protect Brightstar for up to ten seconds of being in a room with a finger-wide Elemental Plane of Fire Gate, if they killed someone for the blood-magic to repower it each time. Jisa spent several seconds boggling in horror at the concept that this was something Leareth would even consider authorizing to slightly speed up a research project – it must be? or they wouldn't be telling her? – and concluded that he wouldn't hesitate if it were necessary but, like, almost certainly he would have a non-stupid solution to the efficiency problem in his back pocket. She...decided not to consider the question of whether it would be worth killing three people with blood-magic - and raising them later - in order to save the four resurrection diamonds it would take to get everyone else back if they take too long; she left it at "no, what the fuck".) 

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....It might, actually, unless "cold" energy is some kind of ontologically basic magical phenomenon that doesn't exist in the material plane in Velgarth and they couldn't usefully test the spell by dropping Brightstar in freezing water or something. But if it's just, like...cold, the concept as they know it...then they can in fact get much more detailed analysis when watching tests than if they were testing to destruction with fire or levinbolts. 

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Shavri wakes Blai a bit after midnight to hydrate and use his first channel, and to relay a question if he's coherent enough. :Jisa has questions about the Protection from Energy for 'cold', she says that's - not generally conceived of as a form of energy - and she wants to know if it's actually some magical phenomenon in Golarion or if it would protect Brightstar from normal freezing water or something and they can test it to destruction that way to see more of how it works and build a better talisman for Brightstar.: 

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Oh if they think that's bad the same spell also works on acid and sonic damage. Protection from cold works fine on cold weather though it's only protecting against damage, not discomfort, so for normal weather conditions you would rather have an Endure and it's a lower circle anyway.

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:No, they think it's very convenient because cold doesn't interfere with mage-sight.: Testing it to destruction with acid sounds like it would involve torturing Brightstar once it failed so she's not going to suggest that, and she's not sure what "sonic" damage is or how easy it would be to set up the test conditions. :They found it very strange that you could protect against cold with the same spellform as against fire, that isn't how we would do it, so they wanted to make sure they weren't just confused. They think solving the talisman will help speed the research along more than a second summons. ...If no one has an infection yet at dawn I'm inclined to say it's worth it, but you don't need to worry about it, I'm going to tell you exactly what to prepare when we get to that and I'll write up the list where Seldan can see it.: 

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:Understood:

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Shavri lets them sleep, except for the final channel about three candlemarks later. 

 

It's taking truly heroic quantities of Healer time and attention, but morning approaches and nobody has an infection that's made it past their skin or mucus membranes. 

 

At dawn - well, a handful of minutes before so she can make sure he's coherent and get him fluids first - she gives him the list and points Seldan at where it's written on the wall. Create Water, Virtue, Guidance, Stabilize, four Remove Sicknesses, four Lesser Restorations, one Nap Stack for tonight, one Protection from Energy for research purposes. 

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Tea. Prayer. It's mostly just a lot of repetitions of "Iomedae I am told by someone who knows what she's doing that this is what's on for the day as part of the plan where the local situation winds up okay eventually".

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Seldan is thinking that they're really lucky that one of the most talented Healers in a generation is also lifebonded to the King and relatedly has a lot of experience with strategy-level decisions. And with enduring day after day as she watches people she's responsible for slowly dying in agonizing pain and the only thing she can do is draw it out longer because that's worth it in expectation. She did it for years with Randi. He's so glad they managed to heal Randi before all of this happened. Shavri wouldn't be coping, otherwise. 

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...Vanyel woke up this morning with very little sensation in his hands except for a constant horrible burning (Shavri thinks it's some kind of progressive nerve damage that the channels and healing spells can't quite keep up with) and while he still feels stronger than two days ago, he can't actually manage to cast Guidance and he suspects that means he won't be able to cast anything today. 

Sorry, Shelyn. He's trying, he's really really trying, just, maybe, She should have picked someone who wasn't going to die in a few days. 

(Not that he wants Her to take it back. For one thing Shavri can still use the channels as long as he can be woken at all, and also it's...nice...to feel Her presence at dawn. It's not the same as having Yfandes or not being in pain or having the situation be in any way even slightly okay, but it still makes him feel less alone.) 

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Blai can cast Guidance on him?

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:...Does that help if the problem is physical and in my hands? With casting, I mean, I - I would appreciate it anyway because it's - I keep having intrusive thoughts about wanting to die and it's really not productive -: It's got to be more habit than anything, Vanyel thinks, he mostly stopped having that problem after Stef but the grooves in his mind are there. 

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...Wait has Vanyel mentioned that to anyone else or is this literally the first time he thought to tell anyone? Isn't this a really central example of a Mindhealer problem, as opposed to the completely insane things the Heralds have apparently started using Mindhealing for since his time. There's definitely a Mindhealer in Haven, unless they sent her to Iftel or something since he was last capable of paying any attention to anything. 

:Vanyel, have you told Shavri about that?: 

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Obviously not and now he really regrets letting it slip to them!!!!! 

 

...Probably Shelyn is in favor of having friends who care about you try to help you even when you're making it obnoxious for them. Sorry, Shelyn. He will try not to be obnoxious. 

:No, because it was manageable when I could cast Guidance anytime I wanted. I...guess...I should find out if Melody can come see me. I can tell Shavri, I don't need you to relay it.: 

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:A Guidance can be spent to steady your hands:

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...It seems kind of silly to ask Blai to cast Guidance on him so he can...cast Guidance on himself...and he realistically wouldn't be doing anything more useful with his spells, staying alert enough to recast Virtue every minute is way too hard today, but despite his miserably distracted and incoherent prayer today he thinks he successfully managed to get his ten-minute Remove Sickness for the day and will maybe at some point poke Blai to cast Guidance on him and see if he can manage to use that. Right now that sounds harder than just going to sleep again while still nauseous. 

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No, he's got to stay awake long enough for Blai to cast the Lesser Restorations so he can do his first channel of the day, that's the schedule. 

(It's a concerning sign that Vanyel seems to have gone from 'uncomfortable enough that it wakes him up' to 'literally so sleepy that falling asleep sounds better than Remove Sickness', but it's not surprising.) 

 

And after that Shavri has Blai's food, because now is probably still the best time for it. Well, "food". He's getting broth today, with all the solid matter carefully strained out of it, and apple juice. Shavri knows the Remove Sickness makes eating solid food feel doable but it doesn't, actually, give his body the ability to use it. 

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He will accept this without complaint. He drinks it fast so it will have as much time as possible to get where it's going before he's inclined to throw up again.

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And then it's more of the same. Hours and hours of it.

Seldan snuggles his Herald and fantasizes about the Nap Stack tonight and having as much as a few entire candlemarks afterward when he can form more than one thought in a row. 

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....Shavri's going to be waking them up a lot more often for the four candlemarks or so before the planned Nap Stack start time. Sorry. It's just that she's been tolerating them - the human patients, that is - getting a little dehydrated in between the daily Remove Sicknesses, because at this point their options are realistically 'drink a tiny bit at a time' or 'try to drink more than that and throw up', and being woken every ten minutes around the clock is bad for people too. But she would really like to be able to leave them in the Nap Stack for as long as possible, maybe the entire duration of the spell if they're benefiting from it, and if they're dehydrated going into it then even if she doesn't end up having to pull them out partway through before it's medically dangerous, coming out of it will be really, really unpleasant, and difficult to catch up from.

 

So being hassled every five minutes it is. It's only for a few candlemarks and then they get to sleep for what's going to feel like such a lovely incredible long time. (Shavri is jealous. She's not exhausted, she's been responsibly spending eight candlemarks in bed each night, but she's not sleeping well.) 

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(Seldan is actually doing significantly better on this front - if he drinks more at once than is really wise, he can't throw up and is just in spectacularly agonizing pain for a while, but he checked and Shavri said it wasn't actually harming him and definitely wasn't going to burst anything in his insides, so he's been doing that. But he's not going to sleep through Blai being woken every five minutes anyway, so he might as well try Staying Hydrated, This Time Without Horrible Stomach Pain.) 

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Also Brightstar's going to come back at some point to get Protection from Energy cast on him but that shouldn't take long. 

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Blai drinks. It is not that hard to do it because he did on several memorable occasions try the alternative. He casts various spells when prompted.

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(Seldan is definitely in favor of not finding out whether waking up really dehydrated will give his Herald flashbacks to horrifying thought experiment Asmodean seminary even if it's not, strictly speaking, a result of not having access to water.) 

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She'll have him use one of his channels now, because normally he would pick them up a bit after midnight when Vanyel's channels were out but he will hopefully, instead, be ASLEEP at midnight. He and Seldan can hang on for eight candlemarks on a single Blai-channel, and Van has one left and the Healers covering overnight have been instructed to stretch it as late as possible. 

Shavri does at one point shake Vanyel awake and get Blai to cast Guidance on him and instruct Vanyel very firmly to cast Remove Sickness on Stef, who in the last candlemark has started throwing up substantially more than they're putting into him. She thinks he might have an infection. It's okay, they just need to get him through the night and an extremely well-rested Blai can prepare a Remove Disease.

 

 

The Nap Stack room is not very crowded; they're not trying to fit the Companions this time. (Several Heralds opt out on this basis, but most are willing to sleep in a bunk bed that they don't have to share with anyone else.) The lack of crowding means that Shavri can painblock the whole time; basically everyone senior enough to have painblocking really solidly down was prioritized in the first Nap Stack, and thus didn't get the one three days ago and are in the current one, but Shavri has recently discovered the capability to painblock two people at once if they happen to be soulbonded to each other. It's very convenient. She'll sleep...later. 

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Blai is not really with it enough to be tracking whether this is wise of her. He casts. The pillow vanishes. He rolls over a little bit and goes to sleep.

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Good, because it's absolutely not Blai's job to be tracking that, and it is Shavri's job to make absolute sure that he and Seldan are as comfortable as possible and not going to be woken up prematurely by something hurting. 

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In any case Gemma is in this Nap Stack, since she was in the first and missed the second, and isn't actually sleep deprived enough to sleep more than three and a half candlemarks. She wakes up feeling like she's been on holiday for a month. She hangs out in rapport with Shavri for five minutes until she gets the hang of the trick for painblocking both of them at once and then she can take over. Shavri should sleep. 

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....She's going to check on Stef first. But after that, sure. 

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Zzzzzzzzz. 

 

 

...Seldan is going to wake up spontaneously before Blai, just because there is, in fact, a limit to how much sleep a Groveborn Companion can need even when they're slowly dying and Seldan is now glutted on sleep. He doesn't feel good, exactly, but he sure does feel awake

It's...four candlemarks in? Sixteen hours of sleep. He feels like Blai could use more.

Seldan holds very still and keeps his mind calm and quiet; he imagines being the surface of a placid lake, sun-warmed water at the height of summer, for Blai to float in. ...Did he live near a lake or something when he was human, he has no idea where that sense-memory came from, it's surprisingly vivid for something that happened six hundred years ago in a completely different body...

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He grew up near Lake Sorrow. He never swam or touched a boat, because when he was a child he allowed what he was anxious about to affect what things he did at all.

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Awww. What a normal, not-a-horrifying-thought-experiment memory to brush past. 

 

Seldan spends the rest of the time that Blai is asleep while he isn't aimlessly thinking about...well, mostly poking at the thought of writing a treatise someday that tries to define what people mean by "conscience". It's a word that would be useful to factor out into all of its constituent pieces and he doesn't think he ever did, when he was human. Blai claims not to have a conscience but Seldan is pretty sure this is incorrect and Blai has plenty of the normal pieces, just - not connected up in some of the ways that some definitions of the term would consider central, like "being unwilling to do something because it feels wrong and bad to him."

But that's not the only piece and, honestly, it's kind of an inconvenient way to have a conscience in many situations? If Shavri had that kind of conscience she might have had it about euthanizing Nayoki, and...Seldan's intuition is that it's good and correct for a Healer to hesitate to stop a patient's heart, and feel all sorts of uncomfortable gross feelings about it, just - in fact sometimes you don't want the feelings to get in the way and affect the things you do, except - indirectly, upstream, in the questions you ask yourself.

Seldan is pretty sure he's ever been deeply uncomfortable with something and then, separately, decided against doing it, but - it wasn't because it was uncomfortable, it was because he laid out the details of the situation in front of him and considered all the possible outcomes in order of most-to-least-likely if he did this, and all the possible outcomes if he did that, and put some made-up numbers on it to check that his reasoning was clear enough to do math on, even though quite a lot of decisions in the real world have less clear and measurable numbers on them than, say, Joshel's job has...

...he lost track of where he was going with that. Anyway. Blai has Law feelings and those absolutely determine what he does and that's a fascinating way for someone to have a conscience set up! It makes perfect sense, Asmodeus is Lawful Evil, Law was allowed in Cheliax, having intuitions about it wasn't against Blai's childhood religion. It's just interesting! Blai hasn't had nearly as much opportunity to...formalize his inchoate intuitions about the probably-not-entirely-coherent cluster of things that gets referred to as 'Good', he just has the little observations, things like 'it does seem bad that Leareth is suffering even if it has no causal impact on the future' and 'wow, it's not great how little the Valdemargod seems to care about murder as long as it's Vkandis murdering His own people all the way over there'. 

There are probably going to be such fascinating ethics debates at the Chelish Constitutional Convention. People will have opinions! A lot of them will be wrong but Seldan loves wrong opinions more than right ones, honestly, it's such a delightful way to make himself uncomfortable and then poke that until interesting new framings on the situation fall out. 

 

Iomedae, I hope we make it to the convention, he thinks vaguely. I know You probably can't do anything more to make that happen, but I'm really sure we would be a valuable addition. 

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Blai would say that he can identify what things are Good in about the same way as he can identify what things are plants, and also that much of his discernment is from having been rigorously trained in knowing what things are Evil. But he has spent more time, much more, on thinking about Law; he used to write a lot of letters to other philosophically inclined sorts of people posted to the Worldwound (and equally bored with it) about the subject when he had downtime.

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That is such a fascinating angle on it. "Rigorously trained in knowing what kinds of things are Evil", that is.

 

...Seldan could write a treatise! He could write an entire treatise that approaches the classification of 'Good' and 'Evil' actions and traits and such like the classification of plants, and meticulously avoids at any point making a claim about whether it's desirable or preferred to aim for the things in the Good cluster. People would get so mad about it! He could drop it in a room of barely literate thirteen-year-old boys whose Companions had plucked them out of rural Valdemar, that's got to still be a thing, and incredible debates would fall out and they would perhaps be convinced that book-lessons weren't always boring after all. 

 

Seldan cannot actually do it, of course, because they're slowly dying and this current run of mental energy is at best going to last a few candlemarks, but it would be so funny. 

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Blai is having a dream about trudging through the snow. The snow keeps getting deeper and deeper as he progresses and when he runs out of Snow Shapes he has to claw it apart in front of him with his bare hands and sometimes he has an Endure or gloves while he's doing that and sometimes he does not. Eventually the snow will be too much deeper than he is tall, deeper than he can reach even by jumping, and he will have to tunnel through it, and in the dream he doesn't have Light prepared.

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...There's supposed to be a way of nudging your Herald's dreams without actually waking them but Seldan is not actually sure how it works, he's pretty sure that Mindspeaking Blai will just wake him up and then no more Nap Stack. He will...hmm, he'll try to project the sense that behind dream-Blai is a Companion-shape radiating Companion body-heat walking with him, that seems like it shouldn't be so weird and out-of-place that Blai wakes himself up reacting to it, and he starts with it very faintly and only ramps it up slowly, so he can stop if it seems to be anti-helping. 

Seldan isn't a mage in real life and so dream-Seldan isn't going to have a mage-light either, but Groveborn Companions can safely gallop on uneven ground on a moonless night, no one is sure how and Seldan himself isn't sure what extra senses he has to make that possible, maybe it's just very short-range Foresight. Anyway, a lightless snow-tunnel doesn't bother him. 

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The dream was only mildly unpleasant before, really, but throwing in a dream-Seldan does help.

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Being a Companion is so cool.

Wow it seems like Blai really is going to sleep the entire duration of the spell. Hopefully he'll benefit from it and they can have a little while of both being slightly clearheaded at the same time. (Seldan still feels pretty gross, but resting his stomach for a good few candlemarks while getting two night' worth of recovery at once against over a few candlemarks of deterioration has, actually, helped a bit with the nausea.) 

...Seldan should try to come up with solitaire chess rules that he thinks he can keep track of later when he's stupid again. He will work on that diligently until Blai wakes up. 

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Blai sleeps for the whole duration of the Nap Stack, and then he wakes up. He's tempted to sit up but decides that's probably a bad idea. Is there tea in reach?

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Gemma is right there and tea can be in reach within thirty seconds, along with a trainee to help prop him up. 

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Good morning Blai! Seldan has been awake for candlemarks and he’s outlined a treatise in his head on what it means to “have a conscience” and also one based on Blai’s Asmodean background that would bait earnest but unschooled young Herald-trainees into engaging with book-learning (by making everyone very upset) and also he made up a set of rules for chess solitaire! 

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Chess solitaire! Considering that if they are very lucky they will be on Golarion for the foreseeable future maybe Chelish commoners are the better audience for would-be treatises in case people spot the holy symbol and demand ethics advice. ...does Seldan just read Chelish now in his own right or would he be piggybacking entirely on Blai for that.

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Seldan does not just get to read Chelish because Blai does, tragically, though a reread of Iomedae’s holy book through Blai’s eyes with that goal in mind would get him a lot of the way. 

…Seldan is not sure he could produce a treatise for an audience of Chelish people from a cold start. It’s an unforgiving medium compared to, say, teaching a class, you can’t course-correct midway, you have to understand from the beginning what your audience does and doesn’t know and which claims will be trivially obvious to them versus needing a whole chapter to defend. He could do lectures for Chelish commoners - well, Mindspeech lectures, he supposes, since he’s a horse now - would he be allowed to mindread them a bit to tailor his arguments in real time or is that frowned upon by the church of Iomedae - it’s just that Chelish people are really quite hard to read from their faces alone, compared to earnest but barely literate Herald-trainees…

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Blai does not know if the Church has a policy on that and would want to ask. It might be fraught even if it's normally fine though, anyone in a remotely sensitive position got Detect Thoughts'd sometimes or was at least aware it was a possibility.

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…Hmm, yes, that would produce certain associations, wouldn’t it.

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Once Blai has had some tea, Gemma had better arrange to get them back to their room. It’s still about ninety minutes before dawn - two and a half candlemarks until Blai has new spells - but he has a second channel left, right? It sounded to her like it might be needed sooner rather than later.

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They’re having a bad night!!! Stef was already feverish and delirious and that was before he vomited while too weak to move and got some of it down his lungs and now he’s having a lot of trouble breathing and Vanyel has been in a state of near-panic for the past candlemark because what if Stef got worse suddenly and they didn’t have time to rush Blai back here for his last channel and then Vanyel couldn’t even cast Stabilize even though he has it right there because his hands don’t work!!! 

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(The Healers aren’t very worried. They didn’t even wake Shavri. It would be very bad if it were twelve hours until Blai could get a Remove Disease, but it’s not even three. Stef will be fine, this time.) 

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But what if he’s not fine!!!!!!! Aaaaaaaaah!!! 

(The very, very thin silver lining is that being reminded that Stef could die and that would be the worst thing in the world has, temporarily, cured Vanyel of suicidal thoughts, and he’s not going to have any difficulty with motivating himself to pray at dawn.)

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Blai channels on request. He can do Stabilize too, if that is called for.

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…If Blai is there and can STAY AWAKE AND BE READY then it’s safe for Vanyel to sleep? Maybe?? It takes him a while to convince himself of this and then he falls asleep instantly, curled up around Stef.

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Seldan is certainly still full up on sleep. Chess solitaire until dawn? 

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Absolutely.

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Shavri gets close to a full night's sleep; she went to bed lateish, but there are still a lot of candlemarks between dusk and dawn. 

She's in ten minutes early, not that there are any real decisions to be made. Keep the same orisons, four Remove Sicknesses, four Lesser Restorations, two Remove Diseases. Stef will need one cast on him as soon as Blai is done praying. The other one is backup for whoever's worst off by tonight; currently Shavri is putting even odds between Vanyel and Stef needing one twice.

Which isn't sustainable, of course, and once they start losing people - more specifically, once they lose Stef and then Van, or Van and then Stef, one of them will be first to go and which one depends on exactly how she misjudges allocating Remove Disease - the rest will go down like dominoes unless they pull Joshel back to Haven, and...is that worth it, if it costs a hundred lives on the border whose only distinction is not being her patients, personally, and people she knows and cares about...

At least Blai and Seldan are looking an awful lot perkier, and so is Gemma. That's one gamble she judged right. 

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Seldan is awake enough for some slightly more coherent prayers, and to turn over the situation in his mind and try to think of anything they could be missing. ...He has no idea, really, he's not a mage-researcher. It's up to Brightstar and Jisa and Leareth's mages, now, he hopes they - 

 

 

- oh, actually, he can try to go to the blue place a bit later - not during prayer to Iomedae, for that he's staying right here for Blai - and shout some prayers to the Valdemargod to please nudge for every single element where chance matters to go as fortunately as possible. It might help. It might not. He doesn't know. 

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please please please Shelyn he will be such a good cleric forever and ever he just needs Stef to not die

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<3

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By the time everyone is done praying, Shavri has a plan. She doesn't love it, but it's what she's got. 

She'll wait until after the Remove Sickness on Stef to explain. And apologize. 

:Blai, Seldan, we're going to have to skip the Lesser Restorations for both of you today. Van and Stef need two each. You should be able to wait without losing too much ground, with the Nap Stack last night you look a lot better. Stef needs Endurance and Strength, Van needs Endurance and - Dexterity? Whatever the one is that will give him a better chance of casting his spells. ....And I'm going to have to steal Seldan's Remove Sickness, Stef is really badly dehydrated after last night and he won't make it a full day and night with just one. ...Blai, if you feel able to wait on yours, it would be even better if Stef can get three long ones, and I don't know which split is the right call yet but I can judge later in the day how much it's setting you back not having it.: 

:I'm sorry. I just - I really think we might be able to get everyone through this, but we don't have many cards and we'll have to play them just right...: 

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:Understood:

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Then they'll do that. 

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Stef is much better after a Remove Disease, two Lesser Restorations, a channel, and an hour during which he can drink tea. This mostly means that he's in a ferociously foul mood about everything. 

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Cranky patients are reassuring! Shavri is reassured!

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Vanyel can cast spells again! He's going to abuse Guidance so hard and maybe also cast Stabilize five hundred times today despite the fact that it's absolutely unnecessary and not doing anything, just to be really really sure that if he needs to cast it in the middle of the night he can

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Awww. It's good for his morale and that's important, right now. 

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Leareth's mage-researchers, several dozen of them working frantically together, have managed to piece together a talisman that does a better job of replicating Protection from Energy and can be layered with every single other talisman they have. 

If they had unlimited mage-energy to power all that, they could make Brightstar practically indestructible. They don't, actually, need to do that. They have a Gate-terminus – strictly speaking not actually a Gate, it's more based off a variant of the White Winds Adept-spell channel, but the effect is similar – and it shuts itself down after five seconds if Brightstar fails to get it earlier, and they have channels. 

 

Brightstar is showing up every three candlemarks on the dot with a fascinating collection of injuries one can sustain when opening ill-advised Gate-like structures directly into other planes in order to drop search-anchor artifacts for Leareth's mages to track. Two days of this and they should have enough numbers to attempt to use the formulas from some of Leareth's dug-up research notes and create a simplified model of the planar relationships. Which will itself take two days, and then - some number more days, to actually derive a routing... 

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...At least five days. Maybe more than that. 

 

Shavri doesn't think they're going to make it. But maybe they get lucky. Maybe Someone is looking out for them. 

 

She doesn't know who to pray to, but. If you're out there, and you're - trying to help - I'm going to keep this going as long as I can. 

 

...How's Blai looking on managing to drink some of his broth, spread out over the morning, without the benefit of a Remove Sickness? 

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........can they maybe make the broth really really gingery so he can instruct his gut that it's Helping.

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They can do that. 

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The awakeness wears off by midafternoon, at least for Seldan, and thinking at all is like wading for glue again.

(He made six separate trips to the blue place to yell at the Valdemargod for thirty seconds at a time. It felt better than a single long stint not in rapport. He’s stacked the deck as much as he can, now, he thinks, and it’s just. Waiting.

The Shadow-Lover didn’t try to talk to him again. He hopes, vaguely, that She ended up figuring out something better for talking to Leareth. Or at least decided She had learned enough.)

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Brightstar shows up for five of Vanyel’s six channels before, presumably, stopping for the night to actually rest. Channels don’t fix backlash.

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Van and Stef are both feverish by nightfall. Which is still early. They’re not even halfway to the next dawn.

 

…Stef should get Blai’s last long Remove Sickness, he’s had two today. Blai can have the ten-minute one, if that’s long enough to help much.

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It will let him swallow ten minutes' worth of apple juice. No promises on keeping it. "Remove Sickness."

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And Vanyel can cast his own short one on Blai, and do his last channel a couple of candlemarks later, and then it’s just another long winter night ahead.

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Shavri saves the second Remove Disease as long as she can. They’ll have two more soon, but she doesn’t want to end up with them sliding earlier and earlier until they’re both needed right away with 23 candlemarks to go until the next ones are available. Well. They will end up there, eventually, but she wants it to be as late as possible. 

Play the cards right…

 

VANYEL HOW DO YOU HAVE PNEUMONIA

WHERE DID YOU EVEN FIND THAT

 

She wakes Blai to cast a Remove Disease on Vanyel about a candlemark before dawn.

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…Does Shavri think Blai has a fever, he feels warm. (Seldan was kind of enjoying it until he thought through what it meant.)

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Peek.

 

:…Mm. A bit. I should figure out where that’s coming from.: Shavri’s mindvoice is almost philosophical. :He can probably still take enough Healing to us to deal with it the usual way.:

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:Did you sleep?: Seldan asks her abruptly. His time sense is getting hazy but it’s night and he doesn’t remember any long block of not seeing her.

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:Five candlemark. I’ll nap some more in the afternoon.: Shavri doesn’t really want to be out of the room for a whole eight candlemarks at a time anymore.

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Blai casts where he is directed to cast. He assumes everyone already knows the... some important... triage thing about how if he has a fever then... something. Hand goes like this words go like that.

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It’s okay. Shavri has this, but also Seldan is right here and he’s following her reasoning. She’s going to try to keep everyone stable as long as possible so they’re starting out using the Remove Disease slots as late in the day as possible and Blai isn’t desperately ill yet so he’s going to be stuck having a fever for a while but it’s okay, it’s a good thing, it means still having the spells when they need them most. 

They should get some more sleep before dawn.

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(Shavri spends the hour murdering the heck out of everything she can find that could possibly be making Blai feverish. She thinks it was something in one of the deep abdominal organs, maybe, but she’s not actually sure. She’ll see if he seems any better at dawn.)

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blrg

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Fortunately the spell list is very straightforward even if Iomedae won’t actually accept “exactly what I asked for yesterday”. Blai has been doing this for decades, well, not with Iomedae specifically, but he’s not going to forget how. And Seldan is right here, they’re in this together. 

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Shavri hates everything right now and she really, really hopes she judged right, that Blai didn’t actually look that bad physically - relatively speaking, her standards here are low - and that means he can stay awake the whole candlemark to pray.

(Vanyel was really very badly off by the time she made the call. He doesn’t have as much lung reserve as most people, he’s had a bad pneumonia before, and it’s been three days since his last Lesser Restoration aimed at Strength. Dexterity won’t help him cough or manage to breathe when it’s taking three times as much effort as usual to get enough air.)

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Blai manages to prepare his spells (this time he's down to running on "I was told to prepare these spells" and can only inconsistently summon anything about the rationale, but "I was told to prepare these spells" he can do on three days of sleepless dry fast). He can cast them, too.

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Vanyel can also prepare spells! He’s not even feeling that terrible right now! It won’t last, and Stef is worse off than him again so the lifebond is pulling energy in that direction again. But he can prepare spells and he even feels kind of up for sipping broth without Remove Sickness.  

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They'll want most of Blai's spells right away. Lesser Restoration, up front, one on everyone, for Endurance. That should perk Blai up a little bit, especially to the extent that his problem isn't just having diseases but being drained from all the Healing she did trying to slow down said diseases. 

(Shavri loves Remove Disease, it's such a good spell, it just...resets people...it's admittedly probably a lot more effective on people who are attempting to get infections in eight places at once at all times. Why does it have to be third circle, it's not fair.) 

 

 

...No one seems to be getting the full benefit of a Lesser Restoration today, except Seldan at the end. They mostly do seem to have been getting very lucky on the spell landing well - thank you, Someone, if that was You, she thinks vaguely - and after the third one she thinks that hasn't changed. It's - they've passed some threshold, some step-change, and a full 24 candlemarks between Lesser Restorations is too long, and by the next one some of the accumulating damage is already...stuck, or whatever the phenomenon is, whatever makes it inaccessible to a second-circle spell. 

Well. That puts a very hard cap on how many days they have left even if she handles all the fucking infections perfectly. Not very many days. Stef, as always, is probably the limiting factor, he has shit endurance. Seldan...will at this rate outlast everyone by several days, except that of course he won't outlast Blai at all so there's not actually any point in taking advantage of the spell continuing to work okay for him. So she'll double Van tomorrow, give him Strength as well, so that next time he won't be tiring out after only a couple of candlemarks of difficulty breathing even with the fucking air-of-life talisman, she's really glad they have those. 

She's so tired. Which means she should sleep while she can, even if she suspects most of the feeling isn't about sleep at all. 

 

She gets Blai to give Stef a Remove Sickness and then...lets him go back to sleep. He's not desperately dehydrated, he can sleep for a while, he just needs to be capable of casting one spell on himself whenever she decides to call it, which is honestly more likely to be timed on Stef's deterioration than Blai's. 

 

 

She can stretch it to...early afternoon. She doesn't love it but it's what she has to work with. 

:Blai. Wake up. Remove Disease, on yourself.: 

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yessir. up. remove disease on self. is he sick that would explain a lot.

...right, he remembers now.

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Calibration for future Shavris: ...Blai could totally have pulled off casting a spell, like, six candlemarks later than this and maybe as late as right before dawn. Preparing spells, she has no idea and wouldn't like to risk it, but she's going to feel more wiggle room tomorrow. Sorry, Blai

:It's a couple of candlemarks after noon. Second day that they've been doing - measurements or something all over all the elemental planes, with the research team. Seems like they're getting better at it, Brightstar's only been in for one channel so far. They think they could have something in four or five days, if - obviously it's not guaranteed - but if everything goes right and they get lucky.: 

Shavri is not loving their chances of lasting four to five days. In fact, at this point she flat-out expects they won't. But Blai deserves to know. 

:Stef needs a Remove Disease too, and then you can have your Remove Sickness. I let you sleep through the morning so you should try to catch up a bit on fluids.: 

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Seldan SAW that expression on Shavri's face and he is pretty sure he knows exactly what it means but, like, she's probably not wrong? Blai has extremely useful reflexes here even if they're quite likely a direct result of the horrible thought experiment country and the horrible thought experiment evil seminary and all that. 

It's nice to have his more coherent Blai back. Seldan himself still doesn't seem to have any diseases, it must be the Groveborn toughness thing. 

He thinks he could at least hold the mental board together for some chess solitaire, if Blai feels up for it while the Remove Sickness is in effect. 

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Blai does his castings. Then he can... stare at... the mental chess solitaire board, and at least when his few and far between thoughts come, they are stupid chess moves instead of stupid anxieties.

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That seems nicer! Seldan will hold onto it as long as he can and possibly a little longer than he should have, he has a headache. 

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Stef should get a second Remove Sickness - the one Seldan isn't getting - and then Shavri's going to head off to sleep, after assigning two Healers to the task of preventing Vanyel from getting fucking pneumonia again. They should call her back if anyone's crashing before dawn, but it's. Not going to get easier after this point. And probably tonight is the best night to grab some real uninterrupted sleep. There aren't any decisions left to make, just the channels on schedule. If they need a Stabilize they should wake Blai for it, Van's gone longer since he had a Remove Sickness. They should not hesitate to do that if they think it even might help but also they should really have woken Shavri up HALF AN HOUR BEFORE THAT but– 

 

okay she's going now. 

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Brightstar staggers in on Jisa's arm to catch the late-evening channel, Vanyel's last one of the day. He's not covered in third-degree burns, this time, it's more the all-day accumulation of less serious burns and being thrown into the wall of the Work Room. 

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Brightstar is too tired for facial expressions but Jisa looks jubilant. :We got really good measurements: she tells everyone. :Leareth's mages are going to do a lot of math now and make graphs of it for a few days and then we'll use that to figure out a Gate routing.: 

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Oh, it sounds like they're really actually going to be able to do this. Seldan hadn't been sure. Young people can be really overconfident about hard theoretical problems like that. 

 

...Several days of math and then they start figuring out a Gate-routing, and it won't be a simple one or it'd have been done before. 

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do they need a guidance or two. for the math.

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...You know that's actually a great idea! You know who they should get Guidances from: Joshel! Math is portable, right, if it's portable enough to come to this room it's portable enough to go to whatever field office Joshel is parked in doing administration work when he's not channeling, and it's not like the border is much more distracting than this room full of horribly ill people. The math researchers really don't need to be seeing the horribly ill people heroically casting spells for them and feel pressured, feeling time pressure is really bad for high-level abstract theoretical work, or at least that's received wisdom he believes, it mostly wasn't relevant to his own work. 

Seldan will bounce the idea to Jisa right now. 

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but Blai is so good at Guidance. he has probably cast it literally millions of times that is not how spells work and does not matter and he will go back to sleep now.

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(Blai did tell Jisa that she and Brightstar personally can come get Blai-Guidances, if it's a particularly good time. They're already maximally emotionally involved in the horribly-dying-people situation, it won't cause them any more anxiety about it.) 

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Another night. Gemma's covering while Shavri is gone, because Shavri trusts her and won't wake up in a panic and rush here for no reason.

She wakes Blai for the after-midnight and the several-candlemarks-before-dawn channels. And then, after looking at him, doesn't actually give him the opportunity of trying to hold the spout-cup himself. She'll just quietly do that for him. 

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Vanyel makes it through the entire night without anything trying to eat his lungs! He's feverish anyway, probably also from something in some deep abdominal organ somewhere, that kind of thing can be surprisingly hard to hunt down on Healing-Sight. He's very sleepy but otherwise reasonably coherent. 

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Stef's diseases were on their way back by evening and by this point he's got something in his blood and he's gone from incoherent to not-really-waking-up, but he's not imminently dying of blood-poisoning. With just a Lesser Restoration he would probably survive until, like, noon, he has a young healthy heart and his lungs are okay this time. They won't make him wait that long, but he probably could. 

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He made it two entire days between Remove Disease castings! That's so much better than Shavri's worst fears. 

 

 

Pleaaaaaaase tell her Blai is still fine? How's Seldan looking, he hasn't had any Remove Disease castings yet.

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Seldan is...not fine, okay, he feels bad, his insides in particular feel really bad - not nausea, just a really impressive degree of pain...but he's not actively feverish yet and he's coherent. Blai...is a lot better off than he was yesterday at dawn, he thinks. 

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Shavri has a look and concludes that Blai has several incipient infections that they didn't quite catch before they were settled in, but he's not spiking a fever about it yet and she knows he can still cast ten candlemarks after the fever starts and probably longer. That's not terrible. He would ideally get a casting before dawn tomorrow, she - hmm - it's a lot less costly if Vanyel is too incoherent for prayer, as long as he can still use his channels, she might have to prioritize based on that... 

 

To Blai: same spells as always, please. 

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yes sir what are those please. just in case the desideratum here is to get them correctly prepared instead of to test Blai on being able to remember.

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(List on the wall...? Yes, good, Seldan is blurry-headed enough today to want to make really sure he remembers right, but he can still focus his eyes enough to read.) 

Orisons: what he already has, Create Water, Guidance, Stabilize, Virtue. Four Remove Sickness. Four Lesser Restorations. Two Remove Disease. 

Privately, :Shavri you need to be more specific than that tomorrow.: Tomorrow Seldan might not be able to read or to remember that he's supposed to. 

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Blai anxiously repeats that list in his head really really fast so he doesn't have time to forget the beginning of the list before he gets back to it again. For an hour.

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Blai is very good, at all times but especially now, and Seldan is here. It eventually occurs to him to try being more obtrusively here in case Blai is bleary enough to be forgetting he has a Seldan to draw on now, having a Seldan is not nearly as deeply engrained a habit as...other things. 

 

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An hour later,

:Lesser Restoration, on yourself.: 

Hopefully that will perk him up a tiny bit. Oh good, it's still not quite catching him up to yesterday but the rate of non-Lesser-Restorationable damage isn't accelerating

After that she'll point out the others one by one, saying their names but also just literally pointing and doing a mental equivalent in Mindspeech. Blai later today might be out of it enough to forget who Vanyel is or something. Seldan gets zero Lesser Restorations and Vanyel gets two, today, Endurance and then Strength. 

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Maybe she could literally put his hand on the people he's supposed to cast on for him, that might work better than pointing. Assuming the desideratum is to actually etcetera.

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Of course. After all of that she also wants a Remove Sickness on this man and also that man (so she only has to bother Blai once, she can painblock for both of them since they're lifebonded and she knows how to do that now). She's going to move the beds really close together to make this easier. They can't give each other pneumonia if the other Healers do their goddamned job and no one gets pneumonia in the first place. 

(Shavri really, really wants to take the stupid stimulant again, less because she's sleepy and more because it would turn off all her fucking emotions, none of which are helping even if they mostly aren't getting in her way.) 

 

 

She's going to want a Remove Disease on Stef well before noon, she doesn't want to risk cutting it too close, but if Seldan thinks they can hold off on Blai's then she would really like to. He's not imminently dying and he doesn't even quite have blood-poisoning yet, just a whole bunch of things growing where they shouldn't. Probably half of why he's so miserable is because his body is actually still trying to fight it. 

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...How does Blai seem when Shavri shakes him awake and puts his hand on Stef and uses her mildly alarming command voice to instruct him to cast Remove Disease on the person he's touching?

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He does not super know where he is or what's going on or why there is a horse in his brain but he does have enough dregs of consciousness left to run a cursory check of whether this person is authorized to tell him to do things and it returns "yes" so he does the things.

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Seldan really hates this! It’s really upsetting and he’s trying to be in obtrusive rapport with Blai at all times while not being intrusively upset that Blai is sick enough to be forgetting who Seldan is. That’s not supposed to happen! He doesn’t disbelieve Shavri that Blai does not look to Healing-Sight like someone who is imminently dying but it’s hard to believe on an emotional level! He has to be on death’s door, right - Vanyel hasn’t forgotten who Stef is at any point - 

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Blai does seem more disoriented to his surroundings than Vanyel at any point, though less than Stef at the worst bits. 

Shavri matter-of-factly considers if this is evidence that she’s missing something, and concludes that, hm, it makes a lot of sense that the same degree of underlying delirium would make Blai appear more confused about the situation. It’s a really weird situation for him and none of the people or places involved meant anything until a couple of weeks ago. Heralds don’t usually get confused about why they have a horse in their head, even if they’re very ill, but trainees do sometimes, and Blai is at even more of a disadvantage than even the most rural-backwater of trainees, who would at least have known all their lives that Heralds and Companions exist. 

He can clearly cast spells because he just did. They wait.

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Aughhhhhh! …But it makes sense.

 

Seldan really hopes that he’s not going to get confused and forget that he’s a Groveborn with a Herald and not a Herald named Seldasen who died six hundred years ago. Though it’s a little funny to picture, him and Blai both in each other’s heads being all “who the fuck are you?”

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Blai does not - from a Healing-Sight perspective, at least - get much worse on the diseases front until well past sunset. He eventually gets hit by the same “you will violently throw up way more than you’ve actually drunk in the last eight candlemarks” stomach infection as Stef did before (Shavri was busy across the room and too late to try to interrupt it with her Healing-trick), and Shavri concludes that something does seem to be getting into his blood and his fever will spike a lot higher soon and they’d better get him to cast the Remove Disease on himself now, or rather at the soonest moment he can handle the verbal component of casting.

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Yessir.

Remove Disease does not actually have a divine focus component. Plenty of spells don't. But he gets his free hand on his anyway, in case he's confused; they didn't drill Remove Disease in seminary because most people never make it to third circle and he's not completely positive that neither his memory nor his divine instinct of how to execute the spell is mistaken, and it will not impair him, to be clutching at the wire thing hanging from his neck.

The orthodox Iomedaean sword-and-sun has fourteen points, plus the sword-tip itself.

He is not delirious enough to mistake fifteen for five.

Which maybe explains the horse?? He's definitely confused about something but maybe fewer things???

"Remove Disease," he whispers.

He has enough time to be sorry at Seldan while he gulps down the prescribed quantity of tea, still more afraid of dehydration than of nausea, and falls back unconscious.

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It's okay. It's okay. Seldan's here. He apologies in advance if at some point he gets delirious and demands to know why Blai isn't a horse and causes Blai even more confusion. 

 

Seldan applies an enormous amount of willpower to stay awake slightly longer than Blai and ask Shavri how long until dawn. 

Eleven candlemarks. 

Probably Blai can make it that long before he comes down with new diseases and spikes a fever again but Blai isn't sure.

(Seldan himself is a little feverish, at this point, but it's not bothering him as much as the truly spectacular degree of abdominal pain.)

 

HEY IOMEDAE I REALIZE IT IS PROBABLY IRREGULAR TO GIVE YOUR CLERIC SPELLS IF THEY'RE DELIRIOUS AND THINK THEY'RE PRAYING TO ASMODEUS BUT THIS SITUATION IS REALLY VERY UNUSUAL AND YOU SHOULD CONSIDER MAKING AN EXCEPTION 

 

 

Now he can sleep. 

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They need a channel from him in about five candlemarks and another in eight and that's all until dawn. 

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...Shavri is beginning to realize that she may, perhaps, have made an error in her prioritization at some point. She's not sure at what point, but. 

The math people are working out of Sumpost, so they can get Guidances from Joshel. They're making steady progress and Jisa confirmed to her earlier that they haven't, yet, run into any surprises that would mean they got a measurement wrong and their model of the planar relationships is based on unsound extrapolations and they need another day of Brightstar doing weird Gates. They're going to work through the night - there are enough people to do shifts but also it's sufficiently high-context work that some of them are planning to take stimulants and work for 36 candlemarks straight - and they might, if everything goes perfectly and they don't make any mistakes and have to redo work over, have their model by as early as tomorrow night.

They have some...math things...from Leareth's notes that they can use to break up the routing problem for multiple people to work on; Jisa said that Leareth probably understood this kind of problem well enough and had good enough intuitions to do it on his own, but no one else is Leareth. Shavri asked how long, to solve it their way, and Jisa hemmed and hawwed and eventually said that it might, if everything goes perfectly and no work needs to be taken back to the drawing board, be doable in three days. 

There's a chance she can keep these people alive for four more days. But it's...Shavri wants to say one in ten odds, and it's going to be ugly, and in nine of ten worlds the only thing she's buying them with all of her desperate triage is a more prolonged and awful death. 

She should have asked. Before, when everyone was in their right mind. Nayoki didn't want to hang on even a candlemark longer once it was clear she wouldn't make it to this finish line, and Shavri cannot blame her at all. 

 

 

...Stef is probably the least delirious right now that he's ever going to be again. Vanyel, she's almost certain wants to die and knows that thought isn't trustworthy and will just hand the problem back to Shavri, but Stef might have a more specific opinion. 

She wakes him and asks. 

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Mrghhhgowayhe'ssleeping– Mrrg. Stef isn't sure he's ever hated anyone's face as much as he hates Shavri's now but he's awake.

 

 

....What? That's such a stupid question. Obviously if there's still a chance they can survive until Golarion contact then Stef wants to try for that! Otherwise they're going to miss first contact, even if they get resurrected later it won't be urgent. Leareth is probably higher priority than Stef for resurrection and that's, like, reasonable, but that means Stef won't get to be in the room when Leareth gets resurrected and then he'll have to go off secondhand reports to write the song!! He wants to write the song where everyone is working as fast as they can and they get it just in time and rush everyone through a Gate to save them, that's a way better song and not just because he'll be there and can write it from a first-person perspective. That's so much Bard cred!! If it takes them a week to resurrect him then other Bards will probably write songs about the contact before he can get to it!!!

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Shelyn Shelyn look at this how is his lifebonded so incredible and so himself

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....Okay. 

 

Shavri drags herself away to try to get some sleep.

Sleep doesn't come easily. Shavri lies awake in her bed with her lifebonded, Randi's slow even breath tickling her cheek, and she wonders how much longer she can endure this. She's found a lot of unexpected stone in herself, lately, but - 

 

Okay. Tomorrow matters, tomorrow is - she thinks, she hopes - the last day they might learn that Brightstar needs another day of dangerous Gates to get their data. It's worth keeping them alive for that, tactically, because if Brightstar can't get channels then he's going to have to spread the work out over a much, much longer period and take fewer risks and it could easily stretch past the interval when a Raise Dead will still work. 

After that....

Ten percent odds of keeping her patients alive, if the researchers solve the Gate-routing math on the most optimistic possible timeline. Which never happens. Make it five days and she thinks their chances round to zero. 

 

She's not sure Who she's praying to, but she tries.

Someone, whoever You are, listen to me, please. If You're planning to pull out a miracle for us, if You're looking out for the math people and giving them the best luck so they get this on the shortest possible timeline, then - I need a hint, okay? I need to know that what I'm doing has a chance of mattering. I don't have the stomach for this otherwise. 

Eventually she sleeps. 

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Two channels. Seldan wakes up when they wake Blai for it, but by the second one he's spending a good thirty seconds unsure where he is. ...Also his eyes are in fact no longer focusing well enough to read and he's - there's an important thing - why did it matter whether he can read - there's a thing at dawn. Someone is going to need to tell them what to do at dawn. Seldan manages to Mindspeak this at a Healer before he loses the battle against sleep. 

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Dawn. Shavri can very calmly and crisply tell Blai exactly what spells he needs, thirty seconds in advance. Several times if necessary. 

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yes sir. it helps that so many of them are all the same and the orisons are just the ones he already has. when did he even prepare those.

Iomedae feels different, at dawn, than Asmodeus does. That's... that's good.

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...Yeah that's good. Seldan is very gluey-headed and is taking a while to retrieve context but he's pretty sure he hates Asmodeus' guts. For some reason. Whoever or whatever Asmodeus is. 

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Vanyel does wake up at dawn and it's very nice to feel Someone there and he's going to lean toward it as hard as he can, but he has a very high fever at this point and is very dehydrated and does not have the slightest idea where he is or what he's supposed to be doing. Someone tries to Mindspeak him and he can't even manage to resolve it into words. 

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Blai gets through his prayers (wordless scrabbling in the general direction of Iomedae, prickling his hand on his gold wire rays, fighting to remember which spells he's supposed to get) for the whole hour, almost drifting off twice and waking up in a panic but never quite slipping away long enough to ruin anything.

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One Lesser Restoration each targeted at Endurance. Shavri will instruct Blai to cast the one on himself first and then pick up his hand and put it on each person in turn and instruct him to cast it again.

One Remove Sickness each. Same process. She's not going to try to stretch it later. Blai might not get another Remove Disease, she needs to stare at it longer but if she allocates one Remove Disease per bonded-people-pair then it really needs to be Seldan, he's been brewing an infection in his gut for...days, probably...and he's been skipped on a lot of Lesser Restorations, he absolutely has a raging infection in his blood at this point and for all that he's surprisingly stable but once he starts declining it's going to be fast. And she's going to draw it out as long as possible deciding which of Van and Stef needs it more. Van will get his last Remove Disease at whatever point she tries to wake him for the channel and can't anymore. 

(Shavri has, at this point, crossed some internal threshold, and decided that today is going to be the last day. Blai won't be in any shape to pray for spells in 23 candlemarks with no treatment for his half a dozen brewing infections, and he's physically tough enough that he could probably still hang on for...half a day, maybe longer...even with no Lesser Restoration and no Remove Sickness, but what's the fucking point.) 

Message for Jisa: there will be a channel in this room every three candlemarks for the next eighteen candlemarks and after that she's not making any promises. 

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Understood. 

 

(It's not fair. They're so close. They're doing everything right and it should be enough and - shit. 

Jisa allows herself exactly ten minutes to be upset and then she puts a lot of redirects on herself and gets back to work.) 

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Vanyel pulls off his late-morning channel but, by the time it's early afternoon, is not rousable enough even for that. 

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...And Seldan isn't actively dying quite yet but there's no point trying to stretch her resources to the finish line anymore.

 

Shavri shakes Blai awake. Remove Disease on this person he's touching, please, now. Then on this horse. 

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"Remove Disease... Remove Disease..."

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OH NO it's tomorrow he missed dawn he doesn't even remember dawn happening - Shelyn he's so sorry - 

 

Vanyel does his channel. He stares miserably at the ceiling. He tries to cast Guidance to snap out of it and fails and considers waking Blai for one and settles on, instead, trying to return to unconsciousness as soon as possible. 

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Seldan is back! Eeesh. He has only very vague memories of dawn but...at least...they prayed to the right god...? 

 

...Blai is not in good shape, is he. And Shavri's face is - 

 

- that was two Remove Diseases. They're out. They're probably not getting more. 

:How long: he asks Shavri.

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:Three or four days.: Bitterly, :- if we get the miracle of a research project finishing on time, have you ever heard of that happening?: Pause. :They might still benefit from channels today and tonight. If Brightstar needs one more set of measurements.: 

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Ah. 

Yeah. 

Well, they tried. It sounds like they even have pretty good chances of getting it in time for a Raise to still work on Leareth. He's lost track of how long it's been since the Gentle Repose on Yfandes. 

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By late afternoon the team of math researchers is preeeeeeetty sure their basic model is sound. They're not done with the model but they're just about done with the parts that require brilliance, all that's left is double checking and details. 

They'll relocate back to Haven. 

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Brightstar stares at all the huge paper sheets of notation for a while and concludes that he still cannot read math.

:Make it a picture: he tells the lead researcher. 

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Like, with an illusion? They....can do some simplified toy views that way but it's a high-dimensional space, you can't solve high-dimensional math problems visually, if anything it's just a way to end up trying to use intuitions for normal three-dimensional space that don't actually hold and confuse yourself. 

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Brightstar doesn't speak math notation though. 

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Jisa thinks they should try to give Brightstar what he's asking for even if it's hard and they think it's a stupid way to approach the problem and won't work. 

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....They can attempt to make a visual illusion separately of the three-dimensional projection of the material plane / Void / elemental plane model for each elemental plane? This is the schema they're using to– 

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Brightstar gets what they're doing, he's the one who did all the Gates to take the measurements they're using in the first place, it's obvious, he does not need them to say math words he doesn't know at him about it. 

He stares at it....can they make the one for the Elemental Plane of Air really big, so he can walk inside it - okay now he wants Fire really big - can he hold both of them in his head at once....almost, but there's no workable path that just touches Air and Fire...

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(Did anyone teach him how to do that or is he just like that somehow???? This one researcher has seen Leareth approach problems that way, it's not - intrinsically an impossible thing for humans to do or anything - it's just baffling that this kid who clearly has zero formal education in any kind of mathematics can do it...) 

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:Hey Shavri. Can Blai still cast Guidance. Brightstar could use some tonight.: 

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no that's not fair that wasn't Shavri's plan for tonight

 

 

:Seldan, can Blai still cast Guidance?: 

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Mmrgg? 

 

:I think he'll be able to as long as he's rousable at all.: What with all the tens of thousands of times he's practiced it. 

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Here's Brightstar.

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Shavri picks up Blai's limp hand and puts it on Brightstar's arm. 

:Blai wake up cast Guidance on this man.: 

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"yessir," Blai mumbles. "Guidance." Is he allowed to have some tea now, he's thirsty - if he can cast Guidance does that mean he's allowed -

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He can have tea. Shavri will hold it for him to help him drink it. He's allowed to cast Create Water if he wants but the tea is sweetened and very gingery and it should help. 

 

(Shavri hates everything.) 

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Seldan is awakeish and in rapport with Blai but "existing while awake and being in rapport with Blai" is about all he's up for right now. 

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He drinks the tea. He flops on the inexplicable horse who is for some reason an ontologically good horse. He goes back to sleep.

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Brightstar goes back to the huge Work Room they have set up with a bunch of fancy artifacts that make it easier for the mages to hold really complicated illusions. 

He paces. He stares at projections of the different Elemental Planes against the Void and tries to fit more of it into his head and snaps his Guidance in the process and he can't, quite, see it yet, but if he just - 

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:Blai wake up cast Guidance on this man.: And more tea without his having to ask. 

About twenty repetitions of that, actually, on average every fifteen minutes or so but sometimes it's five minutes and sometimes it's forty minutes later. Shavri wants to sleep but apparently this is what she's doing tonight instead of sleeping and it's - it's not as though it's nearly as bad for her as it is for them - she does, at one point, ask if they can just fucking go back to the border but apparently the Work Room illusion-setup Brightstar demanded is a lot less portable than the researchers.... 

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Wait didn't they already - why does this man whoever he is make Seldan feel so conflictedly angry-yet-hopeful - whatever he doesn't need to understand. Just be here. 

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"Guidance." Tea.

"Guidance." He accidentally casts it on himself instead of Brightstar; that's what his reflex is. He expects to be punished for this but that doesn't stop him from re-casting, on Brightstar this time, popping his own spell on calming down so that he can accept whatever's about to happen -

"Guidance." Tea.

"Guidance. Create Water." He gets it all over himself, though some gets in his mouth.

"Guidance."

"Guidance stacks with Prayer, Vicar, should I -"

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Shavri will clean up water as many times as she has to without complaining. 

Blai says something in a language Shavri doesn't speak in the slightest and she tries to poke Seldan and does not get a very coherent response and instead uses Thoughtsensing on Blai directly to figure out whatever the fuck he just said in case it's important.

She kind of regrets it afterward. She tells Blai, calmly, numbly, that they just need the Guidance and he should do it and go back to sleep. 

It'll be over soon, she tells herself. One way or another. 

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:I have it.: 

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:- what, really?: 

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!!!!!!!

What are the coordinates, they can plot it and estimate the distance - 

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Brightstar has not at any point tried to make sense of their notation system and has no idea how to tell them in numbers. He thinks he can cast it? Probably? 

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DOING THAT WITHOUT CHECKING THE CALCULATIONS IS A TERRIBLE IDEA

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Look, it's like this. Start here. Void -> Fire -> Void -> Air -> Void -> Earth -> Void -> Air -> Void -> Earth -> Void -> Air -> Void -> Earth -> Void -> Air ->

 

(- there's a bit where something really, really weird happened, Brightstar thinks maybe it was the Cataclysm rippling out through all the planes and the fact that the magic affected the planes of Earth versus Air quite differently, but the distance-relationship between adjacent points in the different planes got...warped...and there's a bit where you can almost make an accordion out of successive Earth/Air adjacencies with the Void, the ""direction"" isn't exactly right but it let him simplify the problem enough to hold it -) 

 

-> Void -> Water -> Void -> Fire and he thinks that place in Fire is, in the grand scheme of things, fairly close to where that one elemental summons came from, according to their best estimates. He'll want to do a Gate to it and drop an artifact, because "in the grand scheme of things" is probably not very close and he'll need to. Be able to hold the search-spell they designed to look for dense collections of Golarion-style-magic for really quite a long time before he can expect it to resolve. 

He can definitely cast it, though. 

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....Literally nobody followed that. Can he slow way down and walk them through where, exactly, in the stupid visual projection, he's putting his route-through-elemental-plane points, so they can - there's absolutely no way he got an optimal routing on visual intuition... 

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Brightstar did not say it was an optimal routing he just said he can cast it and he's going to spend one more minute memorizing his plan and then go cast it, in the other Work Room that's set up for dangerous Gates to the Elemental Plane of Fire rather than for fiddly illusion magic. 

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It's...a few candlemarks to dawn. 

:Shavri? Blai has a channel left, right? ...Brightstar thinks he has a routing that gets close enough to Golarion and he's storming off to go drop his search-spell anchor in the Elemental Plane of Fire.: 

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Shavri should probably be feeling some kind of emotion about it but she just feels numb. 

 

Well, apparently Blai has a spell that stacks with Guidance? She's not sure how she - oh it might be his domain spell that he can't convert to healing, that could be why it never at any point came up. 

Anyway Brightstar should come over here and get spells cast on him and then Jisa can Gate him to the Work Room. It's worth a Gate because she doesn't have the slightest idea how long "Prayer" lasts and it would be stupid to waste it on the walk over. 

 

Here's Brightstar. She shakes Blai awake, again, and tells him that this time she would like him to cast Guidance on this man and also Prayer, if he in fact has it right now and can do it. Since they stack. 

(She doesn't try to tell Blai in advance that they'll need his last channel shortly, that would require him to remember something for more than five seconds.) 

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"Yes sir," Blai croaks. His fingers are bleeding where he's clutching the sun on his necklace. "Guidance. Prayer."

Prayer hits everybody in the room, actually.

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Hopefully that's good???? Shavri really did just ask her delirious dying patient to cast a spell she knows exactly one fact about, didn't she, where the one fact is that it stacks with Guidance but, like, he informed her of this while under the impression that she was his Asmodean seminary instructor or something like that, and Shavri did not, actually, spend long enough considering how certain she ought to be that they stack in a desirable way

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Prayer is good. It helps with everything. It doesn't last very long though.

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Good. At least this wasn't the point where Shavri made a horrible judgement error because she hasn't slept. 

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(Brightstar goes through Jisa's short-range Gate to the really well-shielded Work Room.) 

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It might even work. Shavri is, in fact, getting the impression that Someone is trying really quite hard to pull out a miracle for them. And she...it would just be so stupid, to let anyone die now when stretching it out for a few more candlemarks would have saved them. 

 

It's not - it feels unfair, is the thing, she's almost upset, that now she has to find a way to stretch out what little she has even longer, when she had - when on some level she gave up yesterday. They're suffering and Shavri doesn't have the stomach for this, anymore, but it would be so stupid to give up just before - and Stef made it clear what he wants, and Blai, she's pretty sure, wouldn't want her to trade off any kind of concrete objective like "saving them a diamond and a spell" against his suffering. 

They need Blai's spells. (Aaaaaand then probably to cast the Remove Diseases on Vanyel and Stef and leave Blai suffering horribly because she, in fact, doesn't think he's going to die of blood-poisoning before, like, late afternoon, whereas Van and Stef won't make it very many candlemarks past dawn, and she has to assume that even if it works it does not take literally zero time to do diplomacy in Sothis and negotiate for the healing they need.) 

She needs Blai oriented enough to pray to the right god - he doesn't need to be very oriented, apparently, but she thinks more than this - and capable of actually staying awake the whole time. The latter problem is solvable with stimulants, which is possibly the worst idea she's ever had medically speaking but she does think it would work, once, to get Blai to stay awake for one candlemark and then a little longer to cast everything. 

 

 

...Oh. Huh. That might work, actually, if Someone really is steering for them to win. 

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Brightstar is in the Work Room four seconds after the Prayer is cast and the shape of it is still clear in his mind, a single long bright shining twisting line. He already has his Gate-like-structure, he doesn't need to build a threshold on this end. Just - reach - 

 

Void.


Fire.

 

Void.

 

Air.

 

Void.

 

Earth.

 

(The accordion bit goes on for a while and at one point he catches in time that he was about to go one too far and snaps the Guidance in the process but it's okay, he's caught it, the spell twists itself through the Elemental Plane of Air one last time just, right, here....)

 

Water.

 

Void.

 

Fire. 

 

 

Gate, fling the search-anchor through, close the Gate come on close close close - he doesn't get it but the set-spell shuts down the threshold on this end in time. 

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Jisa staggers through another short-range Gate hauling Brightstar with more third-degree burns over most of his body. They've really got to stop opening Gates directly into the Elemental Plane of Fire. Why did that at some point start seeming like a sane thing to do, again? 

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:Did it work: 

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:Dunno yet. Need to actually try using it to anchor a search-spell and see if we can scry Golarion now. We'll know in a candlemark.: 

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Shavri shakes Blai awake and orders him to use his last channel. 

:And then how long?: she asks Jisa. :To get a Gate and, and diplomacy, and negotiate for a cleric to heal them–: 

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:Um. Might depend if Brightstar can cast it as soon as we find a safe place to put it or if he needs a rest. No one else can make sense of the routing yet.: 

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Channel.

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Brightstar is no longer covered in horrific third degree burns!

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(Also everyone else is very slightly less dying. But it's really very slightly, at this point, everyone's capacity to hold life-force is declining and that's even apart from the fact that Van and Stef are both dying of sepsis at this point. They're going to need to frontload Vanyel's new channels, Stef in particular has since midnight been really, really struggling to hang on for an entire three candlemarks in between channels.) 

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That's okay. Today Shavri doesn't need the pace to be sustainable for a whole day and night. They can move it up to every ninety minutes, and with eight total channels that's still - damn it, she can definitely do math, keep it together Shavri - that's twelve candlemarks. They shouldn't need anywhere near that long. 

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Brightstar leaves to try the routing. 

 

 

 

...He's pretty sure they're in the right general area because he's noticing...distortions, tugs on the search-spell...that he thinks are hinting at some very interesting planar anomalies at various degrees of adjacent-to-the-Void. They're not what he's looking for so he ignores them but they've got to be done with magic, like Leareth's soul-structure. He doesn't have time to look but it's fascinating, and surely it would only happen near a place with really quite a lot of powerful magic users.  

 

 

The search-spell thinks there's a lot of magic with the specific traits it's set to look for in the material plane here

Brightstar is not supposed to just open a Gate directly. He's actually much worse at scrying-spells but he can eventually manage to get one up and see what all that magic is. 

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All that magic is: a gigantic hurricane!

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:....Jisa is Golarion supposed to have a huge hurricane which is very magical?: 

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Uhhhhhhhh shit did this come up - she needs to check the map - uhhhh maybe? There are some places they shaded off as 'don't try to land here on purpose' without especially writing down why. 

It feels to Jisa intuitively like the kind of thing Golarion has? And it would be extremely weird if Brightstar had found a different planet by accident which also pinged the search-spell that is in theory supposed to recognize features of Golarion magic present in Blai's artifacts. 

They shouldn't Gate into it though. 

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:Obviously not. I will try again.:

 

It's a really long way. Holding the entire weird interplanar routing while he tries to move around the endpoint of the scry is very difficult, but it would cost more in mage-energy and backlash to recast it. 

 

How about two hundred miles in...a random direction, Brightstar can't tell from the Void-side what cardinal direction it is. Also the 'two hundred miles' is extremely imprecise, it's going to be somewhere between one and four hundred. 

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Steamy jungle.

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It doesn't look obviously incredibly dangerous but Brightstar was firmly instructed that they're looking for specific places that are known to be safe. And that spending another candlemark on this could save a lot more than a candlemark on the diplomacy part. 

He tries again. 

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Nearly dawn. 

Half a candlemark in advance, Shavri laces a mug of tea with the Tayledras stimulant and applies however much coercion is necessary to get Blai to drink all of it over ten minutes or so. He's pretty feverish again but it looks like it's– ugh, there's something in his lungs now, how do all of her patients KEEP GETTING PNEUMONIA when the AIR is STERILE. Oh right it's that they don't have any ability to fight off any illness whatsoever and have been bedridden for days. It's not going to kill him in the next six candlemarks and shouldn't interfere with keeping down the tea long enough for it to wake him up. She'll wait for it to show some sign of taking effect and decide at that point if he needs more intervention. 

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He accepts the instruction to self-torture in this particular fashion without resistance.

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...He might be with it enough to recognize, when dawn actually arrives, that the god there isn't Asmodeus? 

 

Or he might just spend the whole time having an extended panicky flashback to Asmodean seminary. That does seem like a thing the stimulant could do if you give it to someone running a high fever and totally delirious. 

(She can painblock for him but she suspects that pain, defined as 'the thing painblocking can block', is a pretty small fraction of the unpleasantness. She doesn't think a Projective Empath trying to keep him calm would even help, she needs him to be - kind of freaking out - to stay awake. Just, ideally, kind of freaking out about the actual situation and not a completely different kind of situation in his head.) 

 

:Seldan, wake up.:

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that's not fair. waking up hard. 

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:SELDAN WAKE UP RIGHT NOW: 

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aaaaaa stop okay okay he's awake. :What is it, is - is Blai -:

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:Take him to the Shadow-Lover's realm now. He needs some time while he can think to get oriented again.: 

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:....I don't think I can just - do that - the Shadow-Lover has to make it happen...: 

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:I am pretty sure the Shadow-Lover's god has been intervening in our favor. If they want to buy is a miracle, well, this is part of what we need and They'd better do it.: 

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.....Shavri is kind of terrifying actually. No wonder Blai has been finding her reminiscent of Asmodean seminary instructors. 

 

It's a good idea, if it works. 

He doesn't have the energy to try to explain. Just - the same thing he did before, mentally wrap himself around Blai and scoop him to the blue place and think as loudly as he can that HEY SHADOW-LOVER PLEASE LET US IN FOR A LITTLE WHILE IT'S VERY IMPORTANT.

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Here's a white empty place where nothing hurts and it's possible to think. 

"We would prefer you not take too long," the Shadow-Lover says. "This is expensive." 

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Fucking miser of a god. 

"Sorry for not asking first," he says to Blai. "Shavri was yelling at me." 

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"- it's fine," Blai says, taking a deep imaginary breath. "What, uh, is it, I can't remember very clearly what exactly's been going wrong."

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...What is going wrong. Seldan's memories of the last while are not entirely clear. He has to think about it for a little bit. 

 

"Brightstar was getting Guidances all night and then got a channel and then went off to do something. I...think...he succeeded at a Gate-routing. To Golarion. So it's - going to be today, that we get help, but -" 

But what. It was almost dawn, he thinks, he remembers Blai using his last channel and that's usually a candlemark or two before dawn. 

"...You were really out of it. I think - I think Shavri had more or less given up, yesterday, when it seemed like the Gate would take four or five days. But if Brightstar just pulled out a miracle for us then she's - going to want to make it count. And it's almost dawn, so, I think she has a plan to use your spells, and I think she must not have been sure you would manage to get any today unless she - did something. She was being really insistent that you drink all of something, before, I...think she gave you a drug? To wake you up, maybe? And then she told me to take you here so you could 'get oriented'. Which I should really have asked more questions about, or she should have asked me how oriented I was because apparently the answer was not very. But my guess is that she wants to make sure you're with it enough to, er, pray to the right god." 

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"Oh. ...yes, that is probably important. I think I can hold on to that if it's the main thing I'm focusing on to the exclusion of whatever else at least until whatever the drug is kicks in. I don't know how I will react to the drug."

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"...I should really have made sure I understood what she was doing, then I would know what drug. The obvious guess is a stimulant, you weren't on track to be able to stay awake for the full candlemark. I can't imagine you're going to find it pleasant." 

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"...that's immaterial."

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"It's not immaterial if it's unpleasant in a way that makes you have a flashback to Asmodean seminary before dawn and you pray to the wrong god and don't get any spells! ...Or literally gives you heart problems, I think giving stimulants to people dying of eight diseases at once is a bad idea, but I'm trusting Shavri to have thought that part through. If it's only unpleasant that's - fine, I guess." He doesn't have to like it. 

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"How close are we to dawn, how long am I going to have to hold on to the knowledge that it's Her?"

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"....Fifteen minutes? I'm guessing Shavri wanted to leave time in case the Shadow-Lover didn't actually show up to let us in and she had to figure out something else." 

He considers for a moment. "I think really skilled Healers can make a person's pulse faster or slower on purpose. And Shavri is really very skilled. I can tell her to keep yours from getting too fast, if it seems like that's part of the unpleasantness." He apparently has some fragment of a memory of experiencing a bad stimulants-and-blood-loss combination, presumably as a Herald on the war front. "It wouldn't affect your thinking." 

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"That sounds fine." ......he has at some point in the last while become accustomed to being near-constantly kind of lounging on Seldan and now Seldan is not a horse and it's weird but he will simply ignore that. "I'll... the rote prayers are all too complicated. One line from them or something. Inheritor, empty Hell. I can probably hold that."

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Yeah it's weird for Seldan too. 

"Inheritor, empty Hell." He can repeat it to himself twenty times in his head. "I should be able to help. I was - I'm definitely incredibly stupid but I think not actively delirious in a way where I don't know where I am." 

 

After a pause, "- I would ask if there's anything I might be able to do to - make it better for you - but you're just going to tell me that doesn't matter." 

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"If I'm losing my grip on Who I work for marginal improvements in my condition might matter but I can't actually think of anything."

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Sigh. 

It's not going to be that much longer, one way or another. There aren't enough Remove Diseases to go around and Van and Stef are the ones in genuine danger of not surviving until noon. Either Brightstar will get a Gate before Blai dies of having all the diseases at once and Seldan follows him, or he won't.

That doesn't feel helpful to say out loud, though of course it's right there in his thoughts for Blai to look at. Along with the fact that Seldan does, actually care about his Herald's feelings and has not liked watching him suffering. But also the fact that Seldan's feelings are immaterial to the situation. He's not going to die of being upset about it. 

He'll make sure they do painblocking for Blai, he decides. That's not nothing. 

 

"Ready to go back?" 

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Inheritor, empty Hell. "Yes."

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Seldan nods to the Shadow-Lover, mutters a somewhat grudging "Thank you", and then mentally scoops Blai and takes him back. 

 

 

...oof. 

:Shavri you need to painblock for Blai and don't let his pulse get too fast from the stimulant: he sends at her before he can forget. 

He's here. 

Inheritor, empty Hell. :How long until dawn?: 

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:Our timekeeping won't be as precise as Blai's sense for it. At least ten minutes, less than twenty.: She hadn't wanted to cut that too close, in case it hadn't worked and she needed to, she has no idea, summon a Bard in here to make up songs about Iomedae on the spot. 

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Inheritor, empty Hell. Wow those are going to stop sounding like real words soon. Somewhere between ten and twenty minutes to hang on. He's here. 

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Blai should be nice and fully awake by dawn. Shavri cannot speak to the other psychological effects - she liked it, the crystal-clear knife edge, but Blai might not - but he won't be falling asleep by accident anytime soon. 

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Inheritor, empty Hell.

Sometime in the relevant fifteen minutes Blai is no longer too tired to be anxious.

His mind is when in full working order scattershot and this is worse, but the volume of thoughts he is having at all is back up, and he is successfully engaging the procedures he knows for dividing them into garbage and legitimate and definite, even if there's more uncertainty in that than usual. Iomedeae, here is the situation, he's one of count them one two three four count them again in case you missed somebody one two three four count them again in case you forgot how to count one two three four - four patients - taking Mysterious Progressive Damage while someone, what was his name, he had a name, if Blai can't produce forename surname rank and division he is going to - garbage. That guy who looks like this is trying to find Golarion. Which is the one with Rovagug in it, what if he lands in the middle, he was definitely assuming the entire time he was talking about where not to land that the scope was implicitly limited to the surface but he really should have specified because there are drow and kobolds under there and also fucking ROVAGUG THE DESTROYER. What if the Shadow-Lover's god is Rovagug the Destroyer in disgu- garbage. Are they trying for Sothis? ABADAR USES A DIFFERENT SYMBOL IN SOTHIS, NOT A KEY, HE FORGOT TO TELL THEM ABOUT THAT PART AND NOW HE CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT THE ALTERNATIVE SYMBOL IS. Sorry this is so scattershot, Iomedae. Inheritor, empty Hell. Maybe She's already on that. Maybe She did it this week while he was having his extraplanetary adventures and he's going to be COMPLETELY behind on current events and USELESS as a delegate and as a prospective church member and they WON'T LET HIM JOIN THE CHURCH because WHAT kind of Iomedaean doesn't know that She emptied hell last Toilday - that's also garbage -

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....Wow that's actually so incredibly reassuring. Seldan continues to be right here and he loves his Herald very much. He did not receive a stimulant and so is still very drowsy and resorting to the occasional aside like dredging up Brightstar's name. He still can't remember why he was so mad at Brightstar but it clearly doesn't matter at this point. 

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Also, Blai should keep the same orisons and request four Remove Sicknesses and four Lesser Restorations and two Remove Diseases. 

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WHAT IF SHAVRI IS ACTUALLY A SUCCUBUS they don't even have those on this planet WHAT IF THOUGH, WHAT WOULD HE BE SUPPOSED TO DO THEN, IOMEDAE. He could be totally wildly wrong about what they have on this planet, possibly, in which case he'd want... uh... well he is definitely obviously dying of something, what would he want in... okay the listed spell list sounds okay probably but he's. Refilling Prayer. Just in case of... something... which requires... hey he must have cast the last one, was that stupid or was he supposed to do that... well it won't have done anyone harm presumably... unless he was too delirious to tell friend from foe in which case it could have fouled up something important and he hopes they all made their saves??... Iomedae he's pretty fucked up and unless he has totally forgotten what the listed spells do (which is ENTIRELY POSSIBLE) they sound good to have right now please and thank You and sorry (he's not sure what he's sorry for but just in case, he's probably done something wrong and She hasn't renounced him over it, that's really good since he needs all these spells now - OR DOES HE -)

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(This should probably not be entertaining and it's mostly not funny at all but - okay, fine, it's a tiny bit funny.) 

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Shavri will remain oblivious to any Blai musings on her hypothetical succubus nature, because she's trusting Seldan to keep him on task and it's taking literally all of her attention and skill to prevent Van and Stef - mostly Stef, yet again - from fucking dying before the candlemark is up. 

(She does remember to task Gemma with painblocking and keeping Blai's heart rate at something reasonable, Gemma is perfectly qualified to do that.) 

 

Blai's going to crash hard at some point, it's really not a good idea to give people in his condition powerful stimulants. She had better use his channels first today, actually, on the grounds that Vanyel is about to get a Remove Disease that should hold him for at least half a day, and Blai is in bad enough shape that she might not be able to wake him once the drug starts wearing off. 

 

Once the candlemark is up Shavri will, with very clear instructions, walk Blai through casting all of his spells immediately. Nothing clever, today, just one Lesser Restoration and one Remove Sickness each - the Lesser Restorations don't work very well, but they work a little - and then the Remove Diseases on Vanyel and Stef. Then a channel. Then he can....rest. Maybe not sleep yet. She'll need his second channel in about three– no that's wrong. In about ninety minutes. After that they don't need anything more from him. 

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They did it!!! Best Herald!!!! 

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What if Seldan is just saying thinking that because he's been ENCHANTED and actually Blai is forgetting something REALLY IMPORTANT and is therefore the WORST herald - yes okay he will cast spells people should probably not have diseases UNLESS THEY'RE URGATHOA CULTISTS AND WANTED TO KEEP THEM?? no he doesn't care what Urgathoa cultists want actually

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Wow Seldan is still learning new facts about Golarion that sound like they were constructed for a horrible thought experiment. He could write a treatise on whether it's - whether something Urgathoa cultists something diseases - it's not coming together.

Seldan will try very hard to stay awake to keep Blai company as long as Blai is Very Awake but it's not going to be all that successful. 

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Everyone's alive. No one is crashing right this second. They have seven channels left and nothing else. It's a candlemark after dawn. 

 

:Jisa. Update.: 

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:- Oh, I'm sorry, I meant to send a runner and I forgot. We think we found Sothis, about twenty minutes ago. Brightstar really needs to rest for a bit but we're getting Joshel off the border back to Haven and Brightstar can do the Gate in a candlemark. It's going to be a one-way Gate. No one else understands the Gate-routing so it has to be Brightstar, if we're going to do it in a hurry, and he's really tired already. The math people mindread him while he was scrying and took some notes and they think they can reconstruct it with the full calculations in...eight candlemarks, they said, assuming Brightstar drains himself unconscious getting Joshel in and they can't consult him. We're going to send him with a lot of diamonds, Leareth's organization is providing everything they've procured so far, and he'll try to buy a trip back sooner with Golarion magic but we don't actually know almost anything about how expensive that would be.: 

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Eight candlemarks is going to be cutting it really close for...actually mostly for Blai, probably, he's running a really high fever at this point and if he passes out after the stimulant wears off she won't be able to get fluids into him very effectively. But she thinks they can make it. 

:Understood. Do hurry, please.: 

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:Have you slept?: 

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:Jisa, I'm your mother, not the other way round, and I happen to know you haven't slept either. ...I'll take a long holiday when this is over.: 

 

But it's not over yet. She settles in to wait. 

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WHAT IF SELDAN IS LOSING CONSCIOUSNESS BECAUSE HE'S DYING. SELDAN DON'T DO THAT. BLAI REALLY DOESN'T WANT YOU TO DO THAT.

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....mwhaa? no he's not dying. really. he's just not wired on stimulants. blai was just as sleepy two candlemarks ago. the healers will say something if seldan is dying. right shavri? 

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Shavri can indeed confirm that Seldan isn't (imminently) dying. He got a Remove Disease yesterday and he barely has a fever. Shavri admittedly has low standards here.

 

 

Blai has a Remove Sickness on him right now and is super awake. He should have the gingery broth again. 

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WHAT IF IT'S POISON, he DID NOT PREPARE DETECT POISON so it COULD BE

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Shavri does not particularly care how stressed out about it Blai is as long as he drinks it. 

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About two candlemarks after dawn (in Velgarth at the latitude and longitude of Haven, that is), a Gate goes up.

Brightstar has to cast this one freestanding, they don't have a full-size permanent Gate-terminus anymore. Leareth's mages have portable ones that can be erected for in-world Gates but unless they spend a day setting up there won't be a power supply and that's kind of the important part for this. 

Brightstar can cast it, though. Once. And hold it for a few seconds. Joshel should be fast. The other end is rather randomly placed in the general vicinity of Sothis, Brightstar did not get good enough scry-imagery to target off, he only looked enough to confirm that this city sure does seem to have a gigantic magic-blocking dome-ish structure in it and they've been told this is uniquely identifying. 

It's up go go go go Brightstar really cannot - 

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A glowing, freestanding, wavering arch-shape marked out in blue light appears from nowhere on the outskirts of Sothis.

 

A cleric of Abadar wearing Heralds' Whites and a white horse who reads strongly Lawful Good (and incidentally has a locked and secured box of twenty diamonds big enough for Raise Dead and five diamonds that are as much bigger than that as they could find in her saddlebags) tumble through a moment before it crumples in on itself. 

 

...Okay he's here. Shit. This is kind of terrifying. Uh. 

Is around...around. Are they reacting to the Gate or his sudden appearance. 

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Yes, a fucking GATE in the middle of the STREET is attracting attention! Everybody is staring at him to see what the incredibly powerful mounted adventurer is going to do next, from the guy selling wraps out of a little cart to the woman walking her six children down the road to Grandma's house! Some people uncertainly try bowing at him!

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Awwww little kids. Joshel likes kids. He gives them a wave and a smile. 

(It seems to be summer here and it's hot. Joshel takes ten seconds to strip out of his winter coat and stuff it into top of the saddlebag not loaded with a box of diamonds.) 

 

Guy selling wraps out of a cart seems like the best bet for knowing his way around the city. :Excuse me: Joshel sends. :Could you please give me directions to the nearest church of Abadar. It's very urgent.: 

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Guy selling wraps points, very wide-eyed. "Turn left there, it's covered in gold, can't miss it."

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:Thank you.: And Joshel swings himself back up into the saddle - they went through the Gate separately so it could be a bit smaller - and they head there at not quite a gallop. 

 

....Honestly Joshel's main association with temples covered in gold is Vkandis and that's not a pleasant association right now. He ignores the flinch, though, and dismounts and looks for someone to talk to. 

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There are people in there! People lining up to see the tellers, people paying to talk to the counselor on duty, there's a great big lovingly-written sign on the wall with posted rates for services.

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Joshel cannot speak the language or read the signs, and so the organization here is both soothing and mildly social-anxiety-inducing, in the sense where he’s absolutely sure he’s going to come off as an arrogant foreign bumpkin and step on a bunch of toes.

 

You know what’s worse than being an offensive boor, though? Doing several channels a day in a barn in Sumpost, seeing the injuries up close and knowing these are only the ones who were able to survive nearly a week without healing and make it to his location. Spending the rest of the time signing off on various aid logistics, spending down resources that Valdemar doesn’t actually, really, have to spare. Being dragged back and told that if he’s not back in eight candlemarks, somehow, then his friend Vanyel will die. 

He has Kimbry address whichever person seems, from outside appearances alone, like directing confused foreign bumpkins might be their job. (He’s a strong enough Mindspeaker to handle translation on his own, later, if they’re not set up to bring horses inside, but he’s saving his energy.)

:Excuse me: she sends. :I am Herald Joshel’s Companion. We’re here speaking on behalf of our kingdom and our allies, which are in another world. We have a very serious emergency and hope to pay the church of Abadar for various services, mostly healing. There’s an element of significant time pressure and our allies who are funding this venture have authorized us to spend up to the value of one Raise Dead diamond on expediting that process to less than eight candlemarks. Can you please show us where to go and who to talk to?:

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...the counselor on duty raises his hand. The people in the line grouchily step aside.

"I'm Cicerone Essam."

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Joshel offers the people he just jumped ahead of an apologetic smile and a little shrug.

Kimbry addresses the counselor on duty. :Thank you for making time to speak with us, Cicerone Essam. We can explain more about the situation but we weren't sure if there's a process or if you have standard questions you need to as first. - oh, Herald Joshel is a first-circle cleric of Abadar as of a few days ago, I forgot to say that. We don't have a church of Abadar on our planet yet so we know fairly little about what that means.: 

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Essam goes slightly crosseyed taking this in but picks up his pen and a fresh sheet of paper. "Does this telepathy method put any confidential financial or spiritual information at risk?"

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That takes a few seconds to parse. 

:I'm not reading anything in your mind other than the meaning of the words you're saying because we don't speak the language?: Kimbry says. :If that's what you mean.: Companions are pretty good at this. :Er, Joshel also has Mindspeech but is less practiced at only reading precisely that and not catching other bits, but we weren't sure if you're set up for horses inside or wherever else we end up being directed to go.: 

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"We are not... set up... for horses, inside," agrees Essam. "Do you have Abadar's Truthtelling prepared today?"

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Oh no is it a terrible faux pas to show up at a temple of Abadar without that specific spell, he’s never even heard of it, why didn’t Blai— it’s clearly insane to be mad at Blai over it.

:I’m sorry, we don’t and weren’t aware it existed: Kimbry sends. :We have the floating disk one and we have Guidance and Virtue and Stabilize:

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"Only Abadarans get it; it's a cheap way for you to confirm you are one," says Essam. "It also works if I cast it on you, but it costs money - perhaps you want to open a line of credit with the diamond as collateral so you have some spending power in smaller denominations, may I see it?"

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Oh that’s so efficient. :Yes, that would be very much appreciated.:

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"May I examine it?"

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Joshel is not even slightly worried about being mugged in a church of Abadar. The unobtrusive locked box tucked away in the saddlebags was in case it ended up being a long ride through a rough neighborhood. He will happily take the box out and unlock it and show Cicerone Essam a diamond and an incidental glance at all the other diamonds he packed.

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Cicerone Essam's eyes get big. Though only a little bit. He's a professional. Delicately he takes out the one diamond. He examines it from all angles including with a lens and weighs it on a tiny scale. Eventually he writes up a line of credit for Joshel, reading it under his breath as he goes for the benefit of the telepath in case that's how that works. Then he scrivens off a local copy and signs and stamps both. "This will serve for immediate medium sized expenses. This church is not equipped to manage your large purchases. For that I recommend the Grand Bank of Lesser Aktun, a mile north by northeast from here right on the river Sphinx. .......and, on your way to the Grand Bank, you will pass the Temple of the All-Seeing Eye. It is... possible... that the high priestess of Nethys would be a better fit for your unusual needs. She... sometimes knows what's going to happen, somehow, sometimes has all the right spells prepared for complete blindside events - and you're irregular enough that I would consider it worth stopping off there."

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What a lovely organized place.

:Can we pay you to do the truth spell here and - write up a letter of reference, or something, that we can take with us to avoid needing to do that over?: Kimbry asks. :And would it be possible to purchase a map of the city so we can easily find our way?: It also feels like a way  to get a bit of a sense of how much money the number on the paper actually is, here.   

…Joshel is also going to interject and ask about Nethys’ alignment and, er, traits as a god. He has gotten the impression that he should be very careful to check that kind of thing.

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"At this scale," says Cicerone Essam, "my letter of reference will not be very useful. I'm still happy to cast the spell and write one, though you'll have to communicate in your own person for it to be reliable. But anyone you could present it to would be negligent if they coordinated any of your large purchases on that alone considering the possibility of forgery. I do not have maps expressly for sale but if you will tolerate a bit of markup I can sell you a book which contains one. Nethys is the true neutral mad god of magic."

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….Joshel makes a bit of a face at the last thing but they might as well stop by the temple of the mad god. Surely an Abadaran wouldn’t have suggested it if they were untrustworthy to deal with.

If it’s not going to actually save time later then they’ll skip paying for the truth spell and letter of reference here. They will purchase a book at a markup for the map it contains, though. (Joshel had some memorable experiences as a new Herald of trying and failing to follow verbal directions and ending up embarrassingly lost, for some reason he always manages to misunderstand something the direction-giver thought was obvious. He much prefers having a map.)

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Here is a book of church locations in Sothis which includes a map of the city. Essam points out the Grand Bank and the Temple of the All-Seeing Eye thereupon and notes down a draw on the line of credit accordingly.

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(And how many such books would their line of credit cover?)

Kimbry thanks the man very warmly and they can get out of his hair and let everyone else proceed with their business. 

For their part, they’re going to find out how fast a Companion of Valdemar can gallop through the streets of Sothis without risking life or limb for themselves or anyone else.

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(Easily several thousand.)

The streets are crowded; it's early in the day and it's only going to get hotter from here. People do get out of the way if they notice them coming but there's always someone hard of hearing or who can't easily move aside their wagon.

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Then it’ll take a bit longer than it otherwise would to reach the Temple of the All-Seeing Eye. Joshel also stops a few times to check the map and reassure himself that Kimbry isn’t going to get heatstroke. He kind of wishes he’d thought to ask Blai what season it would be and wear summer instead of winter Whites; even with his coat off he’s getting awfully warm.

Okay it should be right around here somewhere…?

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It is probably the enormous towering thirty-six story building whose floors are very obviously not supported by any known principle of architecture and also manage to give the impression of being larger on the inside than out. As an additional tip-off there is, at the top, something that is not, actually, an all-seeing eye, but sort of gives off the distinct impression of being one if you squint at it from street level, which no one else is doing (they're not tourists), complete with the impression of turning to squint right back at you and blink.

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Joshel is not a tourist and cannot afford to waste any time goggling at the sights but he will, perhaps, boggle for a moment. How did they make that architecture work?

…Is there anyone out front he can address his questions to like at the Abadaran temple, or does it seem like he’s expected to just go in? (Does it look like the doors might just possibly fit a horse inside…?)

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The doors would fit not only a horse, but also an elephant, and sometimes a dragon.

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Oh that’s very convenient and will definitely leave Kimbry more inclined to warm feelings toward the church of Nethys, mad god or not.

 

They go in. Who is visible from just inside the doors and looks the most likely to consider it their job to answer questions for ignorant and confused foreign bumpkins with a line of credit from the church of Abadar and a lot more diamonds where that came from? (Though Joshel actually feels a lot less self-conscious about the foreign bumpkin part, here.) 

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The interior of the temple of Nethys is a library - or at least the first five floors are, it's hard to see up any higher than that. The bookshelves are served in some places by rickety ladders and in others one seems to be expected to have the power of flight, or at least a good Mage Hand. There are people shelving books and people reading books and people copying books and some books that seem to be going about their own business. There are some brooms sweeping and one that is thwacking an apprentice who just dropped a book on the floor. There is a rich purple carpet and a fish tank that appears to contain a single glowing jellyfish with writing all over it and a cat having a heated argument in Osiriani with an fire elemental.  

 

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(The argumentative cat is unsurprising. Velgarth has Suncats and Joshel has seen how Sola gets in meetings sometimes. Why does the jellyfish have writing– nevermind.) 

 

Kimbry...will address one of the people shelving books, who seems more likely to actually work here than the people just looking at books. 

:Excuse me. I'm Herald Joshel's Companion. We're representing our kingdom and allies which are in another world, we have a serious emergency with a time-sensitive aspect and we were advised by Cicerone Essam at the Church of Abadar that we could try stopping here in case you can help us. Joshel is a first-circle cleric of Abadar if that's relevant to you but we don't have the truth spell today. Can you tell us who we should be talking to?: 

Is it weird to say they have a line of credit and can pay, maybe that's an Abadaran church thing only, certainly Kimbry would feel incredibly weird opening with that in any Valdemaran temples– well, and now she's hesitated long enough that it would be weird to start up again. She waits for an answer. 

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"Hmmm?" she says distractedly. "Were we expecting a Joshel?"

 

        "Yes, sixth bell."

"You're almost late," she says to Joshel, a bit scoldingly, "there's the bell going now."

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??????????????????

 

...Okay perhaps he was in fact warned about this. Still!!

Joshel does not try to defend himself by pointing out that they didn't want to run down deaf locals or people who couldn't easily get their wagons out of the way. 

:Who...exactly is expecting us and where should we go to meet with them?: Kimbry asks. 

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"Well, the High Priest," she says, as if Joshel must be very dense indeed. "And you go up."

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Joshel is an ignorant foreign bumpkin from a different planet and from their perspective they should absolutely be treating him like he's very dense!!

:Would you mind showing us the way up so that we don't get lost?: Kimbry asks. :...Er, and does it accommodate horses or am I better off waiting down here? I can go up stairs but I can't very easily get down them again.: 

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"Well, I wouldn't go up stairs if I couldn't go down them, personally," she says, looking kind of flummoxed that her opinion was asked on this point. "I don't think you can get lost. The stairs are there; you go up them until there aren't more stairs to go up, and then you're as high as the stairs go, aren't you?"

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Okay. Joshel will stop bothering these poor people. Kimbry will wait at the bottom of the stairs (maybe peeking at some spines of books but she can neither read them nor pick them up) and Joshel will - go up. Until there aren't any more stairs to go. In a hurry, because apparently he's almost late. Really hoping that he cannot in fact manage to be unusually talented at getting lost in here. 

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There are twenty eight flights of stairs today! At the top of them there is a very ornate door. 

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Joshel has no way of knowing that there might ever be a different number of flights of stairs! 

 

He reaches the top quite out of breath but he's going to need to use Mindspeech anyway. He– that door is intimidating, Valdemar doesn't go in much for ornate decor, but is there an obvious place to knock...? 

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Not especially, but as he approaches the door a gust of wind blows it open. Within there is a parlor with some stuffed armchairs and a large fireplace, curled up around which is a silver dragon. 

 

"Come in, come in," says the dragon. "...I'm not really a dragon, but it's Halloween."

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Joshel manages not to jump nearly out of his skin, even though his main association with creatures that look anything like that is “something that came out of the Pelagirs” and the Heralds have had some quite bad experiences with that lately.

How does it - she? - speak Valdemaran?? Oh it's probably magic, he does remember now that one of the first-circle spells on the list Dara had put together for him, after the Heralds put their heads together to list out everything Blai had used or mentioned, was for understanding languages. He never prepared it because it was strictly less useful on the Iftel border than a Cure Light Wounds and he's ended up burning both his non-floating-disk first circle spells literally first thing every morning, on Cures for the worst-injured people who missed his last channel the day before and can't wait for the next, and it wasn't like he knew he would be here today, they're days ahead of schedule. Also while he’s here noticing ways to be confused, how can a whatever-that-is TALK like a PERSON, it looks vaguely like a colddrake without the “cold” part and they definitely can’t -

...The actual content of what was said, he's not even going to ask.

He goes in. 

:My name is Herald Joshel and I’m here on behalf of my kingdom and our allies in another world to seek aid for a serious emergency with time-sensitive aspects: he sends, a little uncertainly. :- I’m also a first-circle cleric of Abadar but I don’t have, er, Abadar’s Truthtelling today to prove it…?:

Oh no and he completely forgot to mention Blai being a cleric of Iomedae earlier and that might be relevant. Because of the powerful archmages. Who might care about getting their delegate intact enough to help Joshel-and-cleric-assistance get back to Valdemar sooner. Maybe.

:We also have a cleric of Iomedae, Blai Artigas, who was supposed to attend a diplomatic meeting of some kind in - Cheliax, I think? Organized by some powerful archmages?:

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"Yes. It'll be delayed by the interplanetary diplomatic emergency, so he does not need to worry about being late. All for the best, that. There's a spell, fourth circle, that will fix them all."

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He hadn’t even gotten as far as explaining what the emergency is or why it’s time-sensitive???

Well, he’s going to provisionally assume this is some kind of mad god not-Foresight and she knows what she’s talking about and isn’t wildly making things up.

“…All right. How much does it cost and where do you think I could find someone who can cast it and was willing to come back with me in about six to eight candlemarks when our allies retrieve us? I was also authorized to spend up to the value of one Raise Dead diamond on getting back faster if you can help us with that. …I was told that we need Remove Disease very urgently and I don’t know if that spells covers it.”

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"There's no need to rush back faster than that. They'll be fine, certain people will enjoy getting to make Shavri miserable for longer, and no one's going to have prepared a spell never before used on this planet today anyway. It's fourth circle, and any fourth circle priest you hire should have no trouble getting it."

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Um???????????????

 

“…I was told we need at the very least Remove Disease and Lesser Restorations today and it really really cannot wait for tomorrow,” he says stupidly, because it’s the only part he can really figure out how to engage with. “I, um— you seem to know who I…am…so is there any way you could write a letter of reference to the,” he’s forgotten what it was called, “the church of Abadar that can sell us Raise Dead? So I don’t have to explain all over again? And, um, is there - since you seem to know things - is there anything we don’t know yet that’s going to be really important?” 

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"Yes. Most people barely know anything and lots of things are really important."

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…Okay he deserved that.

Joshel is feeling sufficiently discombobulated that he’s kind of lost track of what he had been planning to explain and in what order before Nefreti jumped directly to the point and derailed everything.

“…I can pay you for your advice unless that’s only an Abadaran thing,” he says, feeling like an idiot. “I appreciate your - help.” For SOME definition of ‘help’ she’s been very helpful but she did not, for example, tell him what the spell he needs a fourth circle cleric to prepare tomorrow is CALLED or whether they can get it anyway without knowing. “- Oh! If you don’t mind, could you tell me how to find or direct a message to any of the, er, archmages who are doing the diplomatic meetings? To inform them that we have the cleric of Iomedae they summoned?”

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"Oh, I babysit their kids, I'll tell them when they come by to pick them up."

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If Joshel had children he is not at all sure he would leave them with this person.

“I appreciate it,” he says. “I - am not sure how to tell them to direct a letter to me, if they want to reply, but I could probably get it from the church of Abadar at some point.” 

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"The archmages will not have difficulty sending you a letter when they conceive an ambition to do that."

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“…That’s good.” Joshel is SO discombobulated. “I’m sorry, I don’t really know how anything works. Because I’m from a different planet. Is there - anything else -?” 

He’s not going to bother harassing her any more about a letter of reference confirming his identity. He’s not sure he would trust a letter of reference from this person, if he ran a Lawful church in Sothis, and it would probably come out just as confusing as this entire conversation. 

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"Would you like a Snickers bar? It's not Halloween any more but I didn't give them all out on Halloween."

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It’s probably not poisonous and it might be rude to say no. “All right. Thank you.”

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A very oddly shaped brown object floats across the room to him. "Goodbye!" says Nefreti cheerfully, and the door slams shut.

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Joshel gets halfway down the stairs before he realizes that he absolutely did not remember to ask about the name of the stupid spell. And is not at all sure he should believe the High Priest of Nethys that it’s fine not to hurry!! - he’s going to go the rest of the way down a lot faster.

Map. Oh the Grand Bank, that was it, right. That’s where he’s headed next. He’s going to have to explain AGAIN that he doesn’t have Abadar’s Truthtelling and it should probably not bother him nearly as much as it apparently does but it feels like…having forgotten his Heralds’ Whites and showing up on circuit dressed like a random ruffian or something.

They head off through the streets of Sothis as fast as they reasonably can, which is slower than before because it’s gotten even hotter. 

(The “Snickers” dessert-bar is stuffed into his pocket and forgotten.)

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The Grand Bank is exceedingly grand. It's got a lot of visible security, though they don't stop him or Kimbry from going in through the open doors. (They're not set up for horses in there but it's a big open area and the doors are large too.)

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The trip was long enough to recombobulate a bit, though Joshel is now separately very overheated. (His winter Whites tunic and trews are wool and much too warm for the weather, but he already feels like enough of a foreign boor without stripping down to his underclothes.)

Kimbry has the spiel again, somewhat iterated on, to direct at whoever looks the most like receiving it might be their job or at least not interfere with their duties terribly because they don’t seem too busy. It’s delivered in a very fast burst of Companion-Mindspeech. 

:Excuse me: she sends. :I am Herald Joshel’s Companion. We’re here on behalf of our kingdom and our allies in another world. We have a very serious emergency and hope to pay the church of Abadar for various services — most urgently we need to hire a fourth circle cleric who has Remove Disease and Lesser Restoration prepared today and we need that part to be arranged in the next six to eight candlemarks. We have an existing line of credit with the church of Abadar that Cicerone Essam did for us and then a lot more diamonds. Joshel is also a cleric of Abadar but didn’t prepare Abadar’s Truthtelling today so we can pay for that to verify everything. Who should we speak to.:

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The acolyte Kimbry chose to address digests this, and then recommends knocking on Cicerone Raad's office, up the left staircase, it has his name on it.

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Which would be very helpful except, :We don’t read your language. Is there anything else identifying so we don’t bother the wrong person?: 

(Really Joshel wants to get the acolyte to just walk them over because he hates getting lost in strange buildings, but he’s done such an enormous amount of imposing on people today already.)

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...the acolyte will precede Joshel up the stairs after thinking for a moment about how to describe the letters in the name "Raad" and deciding this is easier.

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Yay. Joshel leaves Kimbry at the bottom of the stairs, again, and can spend the walk up collecting his thoughts rather than worrying about getting lost. 

:Thank you for your help: he earnestly tells the acolyte, and then knocks.

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"Enter," calls Cicerone Raad.

The acolyte opens the door. "Cicerone, this man needs Lesser Restoration and Remove Disease, today."

"On whom?" asks the old man behind the desk. "It doesn't look like you need them yourself."

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:…For some people back in the kingdom I’m here representing. Which is in another world.: 

Joshel is really thirsty and the waterskin is back in Kimbry’s saddlebags and he’s not feeling up for spitting out the whole spiel again if he’s just going to have to repeat all the parts of it eight times to a lot of different people. 

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"How many people? The treating casters to be transported how with what guarantee of safe conduct and payment? They're popular spells, but if you need them today for multiple people you might need multiple clerics."

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This is a way more straightforward conversation. He should be able to do this. He should not let the bizarre conversation with the High Priest of Nethys rattle him so much that he can't handle a basic negotiation to pay for services. 

:Four people.: Who are still alive at this point. :We would definitely pay for multiple clerics if that's possible, there are other - there's a whole situation - um, the time constraint is that our allies should be collecting me in six to eight candlemarks as soon as they figure out the Gate-routing here and I don't have a way to get communication-spells so they're just sort of going to put up a Gate where I am and expect me to run through, I think. The High Priest of Nethys said that would be soon enough but I don't know if she's known to always be right about that kind of thing. Oh, and we need to hire someone who's at least a fourth circle cleric because - um, I was originally sent to ask for Restoration but the High Priest said there was a different fourth circle spell that no one would have prepared today because it's - never - been used on this planet before...? She did not tell me what it was called. ...I was sort of assuming that if there's a definite solution tomorrow we can get by for one more day with just Lesser Restoration and Remove Disease because we have been for almost a week but I don't. Actually know for sure.: 

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"...Nefreti Clepati is," sigh, "generally right about that sort of thing. I'm sixth circle. I have Restoration prepared, once, and three Remove Disease, and two Lesser Restoration. If we bring my colleague Cicerone Kanza she will most likely be able to make up the difference, though of course you can hire more if you can pay more, and tomorrow I can ask Abadar for the fourth-circle spell that you describe. An adventure on another planet is something that we'd usually like more information about - the people who are inclined at any given time to go adventuring are normally out adventuring, not manning temples. The way you describe this Gate is not how the spell Gate works that I know of."

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Shavri will never forgive him if he misjudges and hires one too few clerics for this in an attempt to save money and they lose someone tonight. Valdemar isn't even paying, the funding is entirely from Leareth's organization, and Joshel isn’t going to be careless with it, obviously, but it’s an indication of their priorities that they told him to spend up to the value of an entire Raise Dead diamond on getting exactly the same services faster.

:We’ll pay for more people. I’m fairly sure we can afford it. I can definitely explain more and answer your questions, we have time for that. Er, I’m not a mage and I don’t really understand the research side at all. I think our world’s magic is different from yours.:

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"- well, you're something, you're telepathic, I don't know what you mean by 'a mage'. At any rate you still have not described to me what I should tell any potential recruitable clerics about how they will get home and when, which is the first thing I need to lead with if I'm going to send runners to scour every adventurer tavern for loose mid-circle priests. I also need to know if you only want Abadarans in particular, and some information about the general hospitability of the world, and whether you have capacity and willingness to bring along anyone who is not suitable for your immediate purposes as a market researcher or just as a party member for additional clerics."

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As expected this conversation is making Joshel feel like an ignorant idiot who doesn't know how anything works. Which - well, is true, at least the 'ignorant' and 'doesn't know how anything works.'

He'll try to go through it one part at a time. 

:I have the Gift of Mindspeech. In our world there are a little under a dozen known Gifts, which are inherited and awaken in adolescence and require training to use. I can read thoughts and project mine. Mages can - it's the Gift that lets you do a very wide range of things. Gates - it's a doorway from one place to another, looks like so: he bounces a memory of the one he just came through, :are tiring and I gather the one between worlds is especially so, it had to route through a lot of different elemental planes. My understanding is that we were very much rushing the research that made it possible at all, because of the situation with the people dying: which he still needs to explain the backstory of but aaaaa it's so much, :and at the point when they sent me we had one person who could do it and he probably drained himself unconscious, but once the other researchers figure it out we can do a dozen a day if there's a good reason to.: 

Pause. Breathe. He's so fucking overheated.

:- I don't think we're only willing to work with Abadarans, it just - right, so a cleric of Iomedae from Cheliax ended up in our kingdom via some kind of magical accident a few weeks ago, it was his recommendation to come to you first. Also I'm a first-circle cleric of Abadar as of very recently if that's relevant.: Although he is VERY BAD AT IT and they should NOT ASSUME HE KNOWS ANYTHING ABOUT ANYTHING. :We also have a new first-circle cleric of Shelyn and one of Sarenrae and I think they would probably appreciate talking to someone actually from their god's church, we really don't have very much information on - anything.:

What else, there was another thing, oh right the general hospitality of Velgarth. Wow that's a complicated and messy question.

:We would be going to the capital of our kingdom, Valdemar, which we believe is safe although I should - maybe explain more of recent events so you can judge for yourself. There's a different larger emergency on our border that might not be entirely safe, I can go into more detail on that. I don't think we're opposed to bringing additional people over in general: at least he isn't and "market researchers" sound great, :but the first Gate might have limited capacity. ...Could I possibly trouble you for a drink of water I'm very hot.: He prepared Create Water yesterday just to mix it up but he did not do it today because Sumpost has a perfectly drinkable water supply and he did NOT KNOW he would be in Golarion this morning and it would be summer and a desert or something. 

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"Create Water." He passes a glass across the desk. "How limited? What time frame would you expect for the research or for the recovery of the mage in question, and do you have a guess - or a Clepati-utterance - about whether there are spells that can help them recover? Should visitors who are not directly relevant to your and your government's projects expect to pay for passage and lodging and if so how much - we can if necessary detour into currency conversion but if you have the weight in silver or gold -"

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Oh that’s so much better. Joshel doesn’t even have to stop Mindspeaking while he’s drinking all of the water in one go.

:Six to eight candlemarks is what I was told it would take the other researchers to figure out the exact routing that Brightstar, the mage who figured it out first, was using. - probably a Lesser Restoration would get him up again but I don't actually know that that would speed anything up significantly and the High Priest did not mention it. I think we can get a dozen people across on the first go but I wouldn’t want to bet on fifty. ...Er. I think we probably don't want to provide free interworld Gate-transport to everyone who just wants to see another world and has no intention of helping with our various emergencies, but we can benefit from help other than clerics, we're short-staffed on - kind of everything. I have absolutely no idea what it would be reasonable to charge people for a spot in an interworld Gate.: He could ask Leareth's staff to estimate how much it effectively costs them for an extra five seconds of a Gate being up but he's not even sure that's a sensible way to go about it. :- We could auction off the spots available?: he suggests vaguely. :If it comes up.: 

Lodging in Haven is not that expensive and Joshel's can estimate the weight in silver for a week at a nice inn. ...In the units that Valdemar uses, that is. He does have a bit of Valdemaran coin downstairs and Cicerone Raad could weigh a coin to get the conversion, if it's important – oh, also, most of what he brought is in diamonds and Cicerone Essam wanted to do rather a lot of checking that the one for his line of credit was good and maybe they should do that now. They're going to want to get a lot of Raise Dead spells soon, not urgent on the level of candlemarks but he thinks it is time-sensitive on the level of days? 

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"Auctioning the spots makes sense if you know how many there will be or are prepared to collect only after discovering this information. Do you have relevant immigration controls of any kind? He can weigh a coin and - Abadar's ass that's a lot of diamonds does he maybe want to get those into a safe deposit box and insured before he is robbed for the wealth of nations that he's got in that box if he's not going to need THAT many people raised right away, Sothis is pretty safe but WOW. Raad has Raise Dead prepared, once.

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:...That would probably be a good idea.: He hadn't been very worried about them in Kimbry's saddlebags because she can look out for herself perfectly well, but it would be nice to stop having to worry about it at all. :If you have it prepared today and you come with us, there is one specific person: well, Companion, :that is particularly time-sensitive. I believe our allies wanted to eventually pay to Raise all of their casualties in the - events - and that's eighty-something. ...Also I was told there's a time limit on using that instead of a more expensive spell but I didn't really follow what it was. It's been: a week? no, longer - nine, no, :I believe it's been ten days. Since most of the casualties.: It's gotten very blurry, especially after that night he stayed up for thirty-six candlemarks straight in order to cast Guidance several thousand times but he wasn't getting enough sleep before that either and then the Nap Stack really confused him. Maybe Joshel should have reviewed a calendar before he rushed through a Gate for this, he's so unprepared. 

He's now trying to figure out if he's supposed to try to explain the whole complicated situation with Leareth, given the part where Abadar really liked him or something and he received extremely confusing instructions to pray to Abadar about the conditions provided for Leareth's soul by the Shadow-Lover. But it's really very complicated. And he hasn't even managed to get as far as explaining Iftel yet. 

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"The price of a Resurrection has actually dropped to that of a Raise Dead of late but that is specifically because Archmage Naima can perform a Resurrection with no diamond at all twice daily and has effectively cleared the market of would-be Resurrections, so you might need to bring the body to one of her circuit locations to take advantage of that if anyone's outside the Raise time window. My Raise will work eleven days after death and there are higher-circle clerics than I if necessary. Raising eighty people will require - well, eighty diamonds, and a lot of clerics indeed to get it done in a timely manner, or you can trade off either by paying more in other currency for scrolls - where are these coming from -"

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:...I think diamonds aren't nearly as expensive in our world because they're - not particularly useful for magic and so they're a luxury good.: Lady Treesa did not actually contribute her jewelry to this stash, that he knows of, but she did apparently have at least one diamond large enough just lying around. :Our allies are - it's actually very complicated and I don't know if it's the right time for the whole explanation, but they're a...private organization...that was preparing to invade a kingdom and now aren't doing that and I guess they have resources to spare. They did say they might need their own diamond mine to source enough for everyone they eventually want to get back, but I guess that's the sort of thing they can just do.: 

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Cicerone Raad's brow furrows in disapproval at "invade a kingdom". "A much better purpose to put an invasion force to. Well. I can prepare Raise Dead only twice daily. Most people who can do it at all can do it only once a day. So for tomorrow you're going to want the mysterious fourth circle spell and a great many castings of Gentle Repose, is that right? Which means some second circles can come along and make themselves useful..." He's starting to take notes now.

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Oh yeah that's clever, they should do that. :We managed to get a Gentle Repose on the earliest casualty but we did not really have any spell slots above first going spare after the - emergency. ...Is now a good time to go back to the beginning and try to explain everything, I think I'm not doing a good job of explaining and there's...a lot of elements.: 

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"Please."

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:Okay.: 

 

Deep breath. He can do this. 

:Several weeks ago Select Blai Artigas, a third circle cleric of Iomedae who I believe was traveling from the...interplanar rift full of Abyssal demons?: which Joshel has blanked on the name of, :to the diplomatic meetings that were scheduled in Cheliax, unexpectedly got teleported somehow to our capital city. We initially worried he was a spy for Leareth, the immortal archmage who was running the organization previously planning to invade our kingdom for complicated reasons. We were trying to learn more from him and - there was an attack at a festival - he saved a lot of people. We concluded he was unlikely to be working for Leareth.:

:We tried to send him to some allies of ours in a remote location, because it seemed bad for him to come to Leareth's attention, and - discovered that the place had exploded. Shortly later Select Artigas did come to Leareth's attention and was kidnapped. I've...lost track of some of what happened, it was very rushed...but we blamed Leareth for both attacks and assumed the invasion was happening now. One of our people, Herald-Mage Vanyel Ashkevron, went north to try to negotiate with Leareth or possibly kill him - they had been speaking regularly for a couple of decades in a shared lucid Foresight dream.:

:We were trying to call in our allies for the anticipated invasion. We ended up out of contact with Herald Vanyel and…there was a lot of confusion. We learned afterward that Leareth believed Select Artigas’s god had been responsible for the attacks, which Leareth didn’t in fact do. He released Select Artigas and Herald Vanyel intercepted him in the north…:

It sounds like so many things, laid out like that, and also completely insane.

:…Any questions so far?: Joshel adds faintly.

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"Is it important to this context what a Herald is?"

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…Probably, given that Blai is (complicatedly) sort of a Herald now. So many things he can say about the situation have a “complicatedly” attached.

:Heralds are people chosen by intelligent magical horses to serve the kingdom of Valdemar. It’s a miracle that was set up by, we think, a number of different gods, we don’t know which ones, our founder prayed to all the gods who he thought might help. Companions are supposed to be - impossible to corrupt and to always have the good of Valdemar as their priority: though guess what is ALSO COMPLICATED, :and they give us advice and it’s - a lot of why the people see Heralds as trustworthy with important things.:

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Ah. Space Paladin Horse. "Understood. Go on."

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Great, Joshel is glad he’s capable of explaining SOMETHING clearly. Where was he again - there were so many events and he did not write out a timeline before this - he kind of wants to just skip to the end, to the bits that are screamingly salient now, but then he would just have to go back to embarrassedly fill in the gaping holes in the story.

:Our later understanding is that several gods - particularly Vkandis and the Star-Eyed Goddess, I think they’re local to our world and not known in yours, we have no idea of their alignments but I doubt they’re Good - anyway, we think They were interfering to push for a war between Valdemar, our kingdom, and Leareth. Leareth kind of saw himself as fighting the gods and after everything I think a lot of us have come around to conceding that he had a point there even if the methods he picked were horrifying.;

;But - going back to where I left off - Select Artigas was able to confirm that Leareth was Lawful and get several useful Minor Prophecy spell castings, I think that spell doesn’t work here but it does in our world. Meanwhile all sorts of suspicious coincidences kept us out of contact and - we thought Herald Vanyel was dead. There’s a Death Bell tied into our kingdomwide wards and it’s apparently something gods can tamper with. We assumed the worst. Herald Vanyel and his party were up north, they realized something was badly wrong, though not what, they sent Select Artigas back to explain. We - completely panicked about it, and kind of took him prisoner on the assumption he was compromised with a lot of mind control by Leareth. …And then an unlucky avalanche took out Yfandes, Herald Vanyel’s Companion, she was traveling to be a relay for long-range Mindspeech communication between us and Herald Vanyel’s party. That was - ten days ago? I’m not sure? - but she did get a Gentle Repose. She’s still the highest priority to Raise because it’s very bad for us to lose our Companion.:

Questions?

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Notetaking notetaking. "I can Raise her today if she's the single highest priority."

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:…I think the only other person who is even conceivably a higher priority is Leareth and that’s complicated in so many ways. - he died later. Pileup of a few different godinterventions, one failed but took out his immortality contingency and the next one succeeded and also. Left a mile-wide forest fire around the entire border of His country, about two hundred miles of which is also our border, and - oh, the four people who absolutely need healing spells were originally injured by the same attack. Select Artigas is one of them. They didn’t get to Leareth in time. I - sorry - I know I skipped really quite a lot in the middle but it’s been. A really, really bad week. If we can get second-circle clerics to come they’ll also have a lot of channels, right, we can - I was on the border, we were getting as many people a day as we could -:

Oh no why is THIS the moment that Joshel’s mind is picking to start having emotions about the last week. He wasn’t done explaining at all! 

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"Yes, they'll have channels, just weaker ones. Even a very weak channel will prevent someone from dying to damage, though. - we might actually just want a wand of Gentle Repose, though..."

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:I think the channels being weaker literally doesn’t matter, no one in our world has the - extra life-force thing? - that powerful people have here. I don’t know how a wand of Lesser Repose works but I’m sure we can pay for it. I - um - what other questions do you have that you’d want answered before you go asking people if they’re willing to come…?: Joshel could use a minute to let his feelings get over themselves but it’s a time-sensitive emergency and he’s not going to ask for that.

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"Let's see. If I'm sending people to all the major churches... 'Peacetime disaster relief on a newly discovered planet outside this system' - it is, yes? - 'with different magic; travel and accommodations provided for relief workers, overwhelmingly clerics wanted particularly for Raises; additional capacity for interplanetary conduit method to be auctioned; return trip anticipated to be available reliably but routine service not established, pay scale...'" He looks at Joshel expectantly.

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:…I don’t know us to be at war with anyone at this time but I’m slightly concerned that calling it ‘peacetime’ will misstate the situation: Joshel admits. :We think Haven, our capital, is now safe, but a week ago Select Artigras was nearly assassinated by - we think the Star-Eyed Goddess. Who isn’t specifically a concern anymore, we shut down the Heartstone that let Her easily act in Haven and then…uh, I think I may have missed something here but Brightstar - who Gated me here, he’s also the one who wrecked Leareth’s immortality - anyway he’s clearly helping us now so I…guess…things are okay with Her now? But Vkandis was clearly very against something and it might’ve been us getting a Gate here, because Leareth was the one working on that, and we’re all really hoping that He’s out of options to do anything else but if we’re asking people to go to the Iftel border they should probably know things are complicated.:

Joshel can, given a minute, produce some thoughts about pay scales (in Valdemaran denominations). Maybe they should offer…hazard pay…for relief workers specifically volunteering to be on the Iftel border? Now he’s kind of upset that no one ever thought to offer HIM hazard pay for working on the Iftel border while a cleric of a god Vkandis might really hate 

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"Background combat risk only?" ventures Raad.

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Sure. (Wow it’s kind of awful to run into the fact that “is it currently peacetime in his kingdom” feels so ambiguous.)

What else. 

:- The specific people we urgently need healing for are Herald Vanyel, who is also a first-circle cleric of Shelyn now, and his lifebonded partner Bard Stefen, and Select Artigas and his Companion. Which he has now, it’s complicated. …I have absolutely no idea if this is relevant to you or to anything here but supposedly Abadar tried to…buy…Leareth’s soul…from the Shadow-Lover who is one of our gods and has him right now.:

Joshel thinks those were the two things that kept coming to mind when he was in the middle of something else? And now he can just wait for questions? …He’s so tired. Possibly still overheated, he should maybe have set aside dignity at some point and taken off his wool tunic, he’s slightly dizzy now. It’s just that feeling like he’s at least presenting a good figure as a Herald was the only thing making the “ignorant foreign bumpkin” aspect more tolerable.

:…Could I trouble you for water again, I’m sorry, I didn’t prepare that spell today.:

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"Create Water. How... did you come by the information... that Abadar tried to buy his soul."

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What even was the story there. Joshel heard about it as a cryptic and fragmentary request that he pray to Abadar to get Leareth’s ???soul-storage conditions??? improved with the Shadow-Lover, with this fact provided as a single line of context on why Abadar might actually care.

:Select Artigas spoke to the Shadow-Lover before when he almost died and among other things told the Shadow-Lover, who seemed to be - I don’t know about  an ally, but not steering for the war - to try talking to some gods of your world, including Abadar. Later on Select Artigas and his Companion were…able to go talk to the Shadow-Lover on purpose, I’m not sure how, They normally only talk to dead or dying people. The report I received on what they learned there, er, included that claim.:

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Raad glances at his notes. "They... are dying if I don't misunderstand?"

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:- I mean, they are, but pretty slowly, that was probably four days ago, normally people only get a Shadow-Lover conversation if they're very - acutely - dying - I don't know, maybe that's why it worked, I was on the border at that point, they sent me a letter.: 

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"That's... definitely interesting. I will have to send the pharaoh a letter about that. At any rate. It should not affect what message goes out for recruitment. Do you have Scrivener's today?"

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He is the MOST IGNORANT cleric of Abadar in existence, not that this is surprising or his fault in any way but it still irks him. 

:I didn't know that existed so no. Sorry.: 

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"It's all right, it would only have saved a few minutes." He reads off the present draft of the advertisement for confirmation, and then if it's all well he can Scriven off a dozen copies to send in a dozen directions.

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It's been...two, maybe three, candlemarks since his arrival? There should still be plenty of time.

:...We should warn people who express interest that it's winter in Valdemar. Speaking of that, er, since it seems like I'm not needed right here while you send those off and wait to her, where's the nearest place I could purchase clothing more suitable for the weather here.: 

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Raad blinks at him. ..."Gratis," he says, tapping Joshel on the arm, "Endure Elements. Can't have you keeling over from not being used to the desert."

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Oh that’s so much better. The situation feels about 30% less overwhelming and impossible now. It’s a much better solution, even, he would have felt so off-balance wearing random local-style clothing instead of Whites and he’s pretty sure he would still have been too hot.

:What do you think it makes sense for me to do now, while I’m waiting to go back?: he asks Cicerone Raad. :I really know very very few things about anything. I, er, did you in fact still want me to repeat some of that under your Truth Spell or were you convinced by all the diamonds?:

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"The diamonds were persuasive but before I send these out it would be prudent to check. The best way to use it is to have you say everything we want you to confirm before I cast it, and then once the sand is flowing on the spell duration simply affirm that you've not lied to or misled me, instead of repeating the entire matter. Now, I don't believe it works reliably with telepathy, so I'm going to teach you the words for 'yes' and 'no' in Osirian, all right?"

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:All right. …I should note that the Heralds do have a Truth Spell that we believe is reliable, but I haven’t actually tested that it works in this world and you would probably rather not take my word for it.:

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"It would rather defeat the purpose to do it on this occasion but I will believe you about it afterwards, presumably!" says Raad agreeably, and then he goes over the "yes" and "no" words and gives Joshel a piece of paper to write them down on in case he's worried about mixing them up.

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Joshel is fine with that! He will write it down phonetically in the Valdemaran script and add the translation for which one is “yes” or “no”.

….What specifically do they want him to confirm. Joshel is really quite sure he has not at any point knowingly, let alone intentionally, said anything false or misleading, but he…said a lot of things…and suspects he was not at his sharpest over the last candlemark. Due to being terribly overheated. And it would be really awful to accidentally mislead them because he knows nothing about how anything works here and said something that was easily misinterpreted.

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They should cover this before the spell is up. "I'm going to ask you if you've lied to me, or misled me, or set out to leave me with a substantially incorrect understanding of the situation - redundancy is seldom necessary but it's inexpensive. And I'm going to ask if you came by the diamonds licitly."

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:...I can confirm no to the first things and yes that I came by the diamonds licitly. I, um, I just want to check that Abadar won't be mad at me if it turns out later I completely forgot to mention something that changes your picture of the situation substantially.: 

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"Innocent mistakes can get right past the spell. It only prevents knowing deception."

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That does not 100% address Joshel's concern here but he will stop making it this man's problem that he feels unqualified for solo handling of incredibly high stakes interworld diplomacy and is mildly freaking out about screwing it up. (Also, while he's really very sure that he personally received the diamonds licitly, he did not actually think to ask if they were obtained in normal ways or via doing crimes - which seems not impossible given that Leareth's past plots involved, for example, the events in Highjorune - but he doesn't really want to get into that.) 

He double checks again which word is 'yes' and which word is 'no' and then he's willing to affirm that no, he has not lied to Cicerone Raad or misled him or set out to leave him with a substantially incorrect understanding of the situation, and yes he came by the diamonds licitly. 

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Marvelous. Now Raad is going to get those diamonds INTO A SAFE DEPOSIT BOX for him and then send people out to all the nearest churches with enough circles, and get a wand of Gentle Repose priced...

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Shavri counts down the candlemarks. After Jisa snaps at her for harassing her in Mindspeech four times in the space of forty minutes about how the researchers’ progress is going, she stops that. It won’t make it happen faster. She needs to focus on her job and let them focus on theirs and either it will be in time or it won’t.

It seems, for a surprising number of candlemarks, like she’s going to get away with her insane stimulant plan. Blai is clearly not happy, but he’s reasonably alert and according to Seldan, when she can get Seldan to answer questions at all, mostly remembers more or less  where he is and she gets quite a lot of sweetened-ginger-broth into him during the Remove Sickness duration.

It’s not until five candlemarks after dawn that she starts to really get worried. 

(For Blai, the forcible awakeness will actually last a number of minutes past the point when his body starts sending somehow-even-louder and less clear signals of something being terribly wrong. It’s not pain - he’s still getting painblocking - and the nausea isn’t really any worse than the average over the last candlemark, but he’s starting to feel lightheaded and floaty, and breathing is noticeably not working as it should.)

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Oh no something is wrong. Seldan isn’t entirely sure but it’s enough to drag him awake. :Blai?:

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:I think I'm dying??: says Blai. :I can't breathe - I don't have an Air Bubble, I - something's wrong -: The only thing stopping him from deciding that the thing wrong is that he's been renounced is that he can still feel all his orisons in their slots but he can't think of very many other things that would feel this bad.

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:Shavri help:

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She's right there. (And reading Blai's mind, because she does not really trust Seldan in this state to report usefully on what's going on.) 

 

...Wow Blai is remarkably conscious for someone who is having to work increasingly hard to breathe, because of the raging pneumonia that she can't effectively do anything about without draining energy he does not at all have to spare, and separately the fact that at least three infection sources have now made their way into his blood and his heart is now having a bit of a time. 

She sits down beside him. :Hey. You can breathe, you are breathing right now, it's just going to be feeling like a lot more effort than usual, because you have pneumonia. That's okay, you're the only person in here who can still roll over in bed, you can handle this for a few more candlemarks and then we'll have help and we'll fix it. ...Here's what we're going to do. I'm going to help you turn on your side, so that your worse lung is on top, and that should be a bit easier, and I'm going to get one of Leareth's mages to power a talisman we have that concentrates the vital component of air and that should help, and Seldan will be right here, and you're going to hang on for, like, less than five more candlemarks, and everything will be fine.: 

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Oh no Shavri is worried. (The difference is that genuinely worried Shavri's mindvoice is much harder to mistake for the voice of an Asmodean seminary instructor.) 

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...okay. He's just going to discard all the tone-of-"voice" information as irrelevant. He has instructions. A thing like an Air Bubble is coming soon. There's a projected end time.

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The "thing like an air bubble" is a thumb-sized quartz focus wrapped in wire and strung on a leather cord which will go around his neck. They're extremely useful and also irritate all the Healers to no end, because how well they work at a given moment depends a lot on their exact position and sometimes you got it really just right and the patient moved and is now only getting half of the benefit, and also if you don't have mage-sight it's pretty hard to tell when the talisman runs itself out of power and impossible to tell in advance. And the duration after re-powering it is...about a candlemark...but can vary by fifteen minutes in either direction depending how sloppy the mage doing the job was. Also Valdemar really did not have enough Herald-Mages recently and they would get very snippy about the duty of "doze in a chair in the House of Healing and check on the talisman every forty minutes." It worked amazingly well for Sandra's lung problem; she could repower it herself, or Kilchas could do it for her, and she had gotten very good at positioning it right - but for all that it's been a wonderful thing to have, it's also frustrating. 

However. Shavri is treating the supply of "mages who work for Leareth" as approximately unlimited and feels well within her rights demanding that one of them sit right there for the next five candlemarks (it's not even the middle of the night!) and re-power the talisman well before it runs out. 

 

It helps some. Not nearly as much as having an Air Bubble instead of unbreathable air, but noticeably. Shavri gets three trainees to help her shift Blai into the exact specific position that Healing-Sight thinks is letting him get the deepest breaths with the least effort, and that helps a little too. 

(Shavri hates everything right now but she's not actually completely out of ideas or options. Vanyel survived being this sick before and that was without a Remove Disease at the end, though admittedly he didn't have the mysterious progressive damage problem then.) 

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Blai focuses with all his might on staying in his prescribed position and taking breaths.

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Seldan is exhausted and gluey-headed and stupid but there must be something very deep in the Companion-wiring that makes "his Herald might be in danger" override everything. He stays awake. He stays...calm where Blai can see it, at least. (He is at this point starting to tuck away some of his thoughts and feelings where Blai can't see them, because now does not seem like the time where being in full rapport and not hiding anything is the most helpful strategy.) 

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Shavri is, for the moment, reassured enough that she doesn't hover. The junior Healer holding an energy-link for Blai is managing it fine. She bounces around doing her checks on everyone. Blai used his last channel before this, ninety minutes after the first one. She shakes Vanyel awake for his first of the day at the planned time and he's very bleary and displeased with her but he does wake up and do it. 

It helps negligibly with Blai's most pressing problems; he's still getting more out of the channels than anyone else, the limiting factor there is Stef, it would take longer than ninety minutes for Blai to start bleeding to death from the inside if the channels weren't fixing the injurylike damage that keeps coming back over and over and over. She goes back to not having any feelings at all. 

 

(It's going to take maybe another thirty minutes for Blai's remaining stimulant-boosted alertness to fully run its course and come to an abrupt end.) 

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As soon as that happens he falls asleep without quite meaning to allow that to happen.

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...That's probably fine? Sleep is good for sick people?

Seldan Mindspeaks Shavri, who's over at the other side of the room right now, and then he goes on staying awake and watching. In case maybe it's not fine. 

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This would normally be fine and good, and in fact Shavri would love for Blai to skip experiencing most of the next...how long has it been...it's coming on four candlemarks since Joshel left and at that point Jisa very firmly told her "six to eight candlemarks to get the Gate-routing" and that Joshel was aware he ABSOLUTELY needed to be READY with clerics hired to come through a surprise Gate directly into the House of Healing. Two to four candlemarks. 

 

...It's not that fine. When he's asleep, he isn't breathing fast enough to make up for the fact that his lungs are doing a really terrible job of being lungs right now, and normally it is just straightforwardly good for patients to be calm and relaxed and not stressed out but apparently all the anxiety was genuinely doing something to keep his heart moving enough blood around. 

 

She feels like the worst person in the world but she goes over and shakes him awake. :Seldan, keep him awake, if he's breathing slower than -: she sends a sort of mental tap tap tap which is quite a lot faster than normal breathing, :- that's a problem right now and you need to yell at him in Mindspeech to breathe faster than that. I'm sorry. I don't have better ideas right now. Two to four candlemarks to wait.: 

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Seldan can do that.

:Blai?: 

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wut

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:Breathe. Like this.: He has memorized Shavri's suggested speed and can think it at Blai like a drummer directing a marching band. 

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but he's tired and what if he drops his prestidigitation, he can't get it back without eight hours solid

 

yes sir.

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Two to four candlemarks of this. Seldan is perhaps understanding slightly better now why Joshel was so grumpy about being ordered to sit here for an entire day and cast Virtue constantly on people and that was only twice a minute and not every two seconds, and Joshel was not himself slowly dying of progressive damage. 

(Also he's really, really scared, and he has to keep it behind shields because it won't help Blai to have to interact with it and he certainly can't complain to Shavri, but he - why didn't he think to be afraid of Blai dying first, all of the times he was scared about anything it was that he would die and leave Blai dealing with that and he - it's almost impossible to imagine - and he probably just involuntarily dies but what if he doesn't then he has to hang so they can save a diamond on Raising him too but they might not have a Raise Dead available immediately he doesn't know if Joshel knew to ask for that aaaaaaaaaaa) 

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Shavri has run out of emotional capacity to feel bad. They can limp along for a few more candlemarks like this and then it will be over. 

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breathe. breathe. breathe. breathe. breathe. breathe. breathe. breathe. breathe. breathe. breathe. breathe. breathe. breathe. breathe. breathe. breathe. breathe. breathe. breathe. breathe. breathe. breathe. breathe. breathe. breathe. breathe. breathe. breathe. breathe.

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On....the very dubious bright side...Blai is eventually literally too drowsy to be forming any particular horrible-thought-experiment-seminary interpretations of what's happening and so Seldan does not have to ignore finding that upsetting. 

On the even more dubious bright side, being TERRIFIED THAT HIS HERALD WILL DIE is almost as good as a stimulant when it comes to not accidentally falling asleep. 

 

 

 

...At some point he's getting. Even less response than that. He tries yelling louder in Mindspeech but there's a limit there and he's actually getting awfully low on Gift-use reserves even though Companions are supposed to have approximately unlimited Mindspeech stamina and he's literally just Mindspeaking his Herald who he's in direct physical contact with but it's starting to feel like...a long way. But it's much more of a problem that it's not even working. 

:Shavri get over here right now: 

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What. 

 

 

Oh that's not ideal. 

 

 

Shavri spares a moment to at least have the thought that this is a particularly mean thing to do to someone from Cheliax, though no particular emotion one might describe as "feeling bad about it" accompanies the thought, she is flat out of emotions.

She stopped bothering to put anyone on painblocking a while back, when he got sleepy again - she grabs and twists the flesh and muscle at the top of Blai's shoulder by the base of his neck, digging her thumb and finger in, pinching as hard as she can. It's pretty astonishingly painful and normally wakes people the fuck up.

Does he wake up. 

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...page... sixteen...? it's not page sixteen and it's going to keep happening till he guesses right -

(His eyes flutter open but it's not really helping with Project Fucking Breathe.)

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It's helping at all relative to him being more-or-less unconscious but this is not a very good plan. 

 

Shavri...has gone past worried to something like furious. With the Shadowgod, mostly. She asked for a miracle and she got this, a dribble of hope and a gradual reframing of her expectations until she found herself here, more-or-less torturing her patient in the distant hope it will get her two. more. candlemarks. 

It would serve the Shadowgod right if she decided she was done, now, it wasn't a good enough miracle, They should have tried harder and given her more to work with, but she can't do that to Seldan

 

:You are not allowed to go to sleep right now! Breathe! Faster than that!: she snarls at Blai, and she's not angry with him but he's not going to be able to tell the difference and there's got to be something wrong with her because the only reaction she has to that is to note that maybe it'll be motivating. 

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Seldan is genuinely extremely tempted to kick Shavri in the head right now but if he does that then everyone might die. (And he doesn't think he can actually move his legs, anyway.) 

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it is very merciful of her not to have broken all of his joints yet. breathe. breathe. breathe.

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:Jisa what’s the timeline: 

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Jisa jumps. She’s…never heard her mother’s mindvoice with that particular tone before.

:They got an approximate routing but it’s - not possible to cast. Brightstar must have been doing something - intuitive - that wasn’t how he described it. They’re checking nearby paths for the shortest one.:

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That’s not a timeline that’s a pile of excuses. :How. Long.:

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:…They think in ninety minutes they’ll have something workable at all.:

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Ninety minutes. Maybe doable. Of course, what are the chances that the time comes and she gets more excuses and “we need another candlemark” that turns into another and another and this is all pointless anyway. She could say that ninety minutes is the longest she’ll aim for and after that she gives up, but - she told herself that yesterday and it didn’t stick.

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:Mother, what - is there a problem -:

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What a stupid question. :Yes. I’m handling it. Worry about your side of things.:

She takes over the Healing-link. The junior trainer is starting to have trouble maintaining it. She keeps yelling at Blai to breathe and hurting him when he tries to drift off.

I take it back 

I didn’t want this miracle 

but she doesn’t, actually, stop.

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breathe. ...........breathe.

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Okay this isn't working new plan.

 

 

She stops trying to keep Blai awake. It’s a losing battle. She can, to some extent, keep him breathing at all with nonstop, fiddly, direct Healing nudges. Not adequately, really, but maybe enough that he won’t fucking die in the next…seventy? minutes…and any other damage to his body can be fixed. 

…There’s not actually a reason you can't pile literally every single air-of-life talisman that anyone can find in the entire House of Healing directly in front of your patient's face. That will help. She should have thought of it sooner. She feels like an idiot.

 

 

The problem is that she now needs to hold a link perfectly, with no interruption for even a second, for over a candlemark, while multitasking on a fiddly task that she’s not sure anyone but her can handle under these conditions on the fly. That’s hard at the best of times - she’ll lose it for a moment if she sneezes - and it’s practically impossible when a patient’s heartbeat is starting to falter. 

Maybe if she’d had any sleep in the last thirty candlemarks— not the time for what-ifs.

 

 

Vanyel hasn’t been able to pray for new spells for the last two dawns, but he should still have his orisons. He’s not capable of using them right now but - he could, she thinks, compensate just barely enough for the weakness and clumsiness if he wasn’t also falling asleep midsentence.

She orders one of the trainees to go make him drink as much stimulant-laced tea as he can manage. It’s a bad idea, she has now OBSERVED DIRECTLY that if you give it to people in this condition they’ll crash really hard when it starts to wear off, but that’s a future problem. It’ll hold for a candlemark.

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Mrrrrrrrrwhat

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He looks too shaky to get anything off on the first try, which is kind of a problem.

 

She has a solution to the problem.

:You need to cast Guidance on yourself. Then stay awake and don’t do anything until I give the word. If I  for it, cast Stabilize on Blai and use the Guidance to get it right on the first try. Did you follow that.:

It’s not a great plan. She doesn’t think you can keep someone in Blai’s condition alive indefinitely even by casting Stabilize every six seconds continuously. But she just needs him to have a steady heartbeat again for long enough that she can get her Healing-link back up. 

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Okay. He can do this. 

 

Wow trying to cast spells that require pronouncing a word out loud when it feels like the entire inside of his mouth is one big open wound is. Really unpleasant. And also interfering with actually succeeding at the task.

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He can channel early, and then every half-candlemark, it might help a little and there’s no point in saving them for the afternoon. And someone should get him painblocking.

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It takes a lot of tries but eventually Vanyel can successfully cast Guidance on himself!

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Breathe. Breathe. Breathe. Shavri has the worst reaction-headache of her life. Breathe. Blai is getting dehydrated again on top of everything else, people running a high fever lose a lot of water to sweating. Breathe. Actually they should do something about that,Shavri orders a trainee to strip off the blankets and cover him with towels soaked in ice water, at least he’s too unconscious to care. Breathe. …She should probably eat and drink something, she’s getting shaky, but she can’t afford the distraction right now she’ll just have to drag herself over sharp rocks for another - fifty minutes? Breathe.She would harass Jisa but she can’t multitask that well. Brea— SHIT

 

:Vanyel NOW: 

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“St -“ Swallow. “Stabilize.” Did it work?? 

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She’s got the link again and she’s not actually sure the Stabilize did anything so she might have panicked prematurely. Better than panicking too late.

:Get a Guidance on yourself again: 

And - keep going - 

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Six and a half candlemarks after Joshel’s departure, the math researchers calculate a routing that should be just barely possible for an Adept to cast, if they have a team of other mages feeding them energy. It’s clearly still worse than what Brightstar had, and nowhere near the optimal routing they want, but it will get them one brief Gate.

 

….Scry first, search-spell targeted on a talisman they gave Joshel to wear for this exact purpose. Where is he and who does he have with him?

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Cicerone Raad has pulled together, in addition to himself:

- a sixth circle Sarenrite
- two fifth circle Abadarans
- a fifth circle Nethysian
- a third circle Abadaran
- eight first- and second-circle clerics (mostly Abadarans, one Shelynite, one Pharasmin)
- a fifth circle wizard, party member to one of the fifth circle Abadarans
- the Shelynite's brother who won't let her travel to another planet without a chaperone especially because she is probably going to insist on HUGGING the other Shelynite there
- a sword guy, party member to the Sarenrite
- four unempowered Abadaran acolytes to carry things and take notes and keep an eye on the BOX OF DIAMONDS, which as the hour of transit approaches has been removed from the safe deposit box and is being watched like a hawk
- a wand of Gentle Repose with 34 charges left on it

all of whom are expecting kind of a lot of money and stand ready to charge through a gate.

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Wow that’s a lot of people! They were expecting, like, three people? They’re going to need to hold a Gate up for at least fifteen seconds to guarantee getting that many people through. 

Can Jisa ask the Healers’ team if they have time for another half-candlemark of calculations to get a route that won’t leave the mage trying to cast and hold it for fifteen seconds unconscious with backlash?

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...Jisa is going to poke someone other than Shavri. She doesn't feel up for being shouted at again and also it might be a bad moment to interrupt. 

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it SURE IS a bad moment to interrupt she's needed to shout at Vanyel to cast Stabilize twice in the last fifteen minutes and it was definitely doing something so she wasn't in fact overreacting and he doesn't have Guidance up again yet

 

(A very very stressed and frazzled trainee informs Jisa anxiously that they cannot wait half a candlemark) 

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:We can't wait. I bet they'll have healing to spare that can do something about backlash though.: That's SO MANY people. She might kiss Joshel. Treven would understand.

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(Someone else from Leareth's organization is making a plan to confirm with Joshel very quickly what payment he negotiated. They can afford it, their financial resources weren't what was hit hardest by losing most of the northern facilities, but they were expecting fewer people today and more time to figure out payment for the others they hope to get over later.) 

 

 

A Gate goes up! It's less dubious-looking than Brightstar's and landing on an actual doorway - unlike Brightstar they have scrying good enough to target that - and it will be up for exactly seventeen seconds before the Adept doing the primary casting and two of the others in rapport to provide mage-energy for the working are all unconscious on the floor. The other end is in the House of Healing. 

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Not actually in the room with the patients, there isn't space, but Jisa is parked at the open door ready to direct people.

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:Vanyel NOW NOW NOW: he didn't get the Guidance up in time and it's going to be so fucking stupid if Blai dies thirty seconds before help arrives -

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He's trying! He's really really trying! Shelyn help I really need this to work - 

 

...Nope. Didn't work that time either.

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The assembled run through in their assigned priority order, Raad and the Sarenrite shoulder to shoulder in the first row with the wand of Gentle Repose in his hand, and the others following.

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Shit

 

Clearly the Shadowgod misjudged Shavri's capabilities here and it wasn't even enough of a miracle 

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BLAI NO THAT'S A GATE GOING UP RIGHT NOW THEY'RE HERE THEY'RE COMING YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO JUST DIE 

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Jisa doesn't know what's happening but Shavri just swore out loud and then it got very quiet in the room and that seems bad. 

 

:In there: She steps out of the way of the door. 

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Oh. Things are happening now. 

Stef is incredibly tired and feels abjectly awful but he's not going to miss this.

Come on. Everyone has to survive. Stef doesn't want this stanza of the ballad to be a sad one even if they fix it later, that's not the best version of the song at all

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BLAIBLAIBLAIBLAIBLAIBLAIBLAIBLAIBLAIBLAIBLAIBLAIBLAIBLAIBLAIBLAIBLAIBLAIBLAIBLAIBLAIBLAIBLAIBLAIBLAIBLAIBLAIBLAIBLAIBLAI

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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The room contains: 

- Three beds, or rather the more-easily-moveable narrow folding cots they sometimes use, all occupied.

- A box on the floor filled with a pile of straw and dragged up right beside one of the cots, which contains a large white blue-eyed stallion who does not appear in very good health, and is currently trying and failing to literally climb on top of the cot he's beside and the man in it, who's wearing a holy symbol of Iomedae (surrounded but not concealed by a haphazard pile of wire-wrapped quartz thingies on leather cords). He doesn't appear to be breathing.

- A small woman in green robes is halfheartedly trying to bat the horse's head out of her way. 

- A silver-haired, silver-eyed man is being supported by two teenagers in green robes, clutching a handmade but overall recognizable holy symbol of Shelyn, and seems to be trying to cast something. He is also clearly dying of something but not quite as imminently.

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no he really thought he got it that time why didn't it work

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The Sarenrite has Deathwatch up.

And Breath of Life prepared.

He casts it.

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GASP

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BLAI NEVER DO THAT AGAIN THAT WAS HORRIBLE 

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Shavri was only very distantly aware of things happening, because she spent the entire twenty-ish seconds between screaming at Vanyel to cast Stabilize NOW and...that...heads-down trying to chase after Blai's life-force even though by the time Vanyel's second attempt failed it was really, really clear this wasn't going to work. 

 

- she doesn't waste time on being confused. She has no idea if that fixed any of the many other problems so she had better get a Healing-link up again right now

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Oh this is going to be a great song. 

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Between all the clerics here they've got enough Remove Diseases to hit all four patients.

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Oh. 

 

They're...okay now? They're not home safe but the various damage wasn't what was imminently killing Blai it was the having way too many diseases. She...can drop the Healing-link for a minute, probably. Her head hurts an astounding amount and it’s not going to be so difficult now, a trainee could get one.

She should probably try to coordinate with the rescuers and explain the problem so they can correctly prioritize what spells to use, but instead she is apparently going to burst into tears like she’s twelve or something.

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Vanyel is also going to burst into tears! 

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BLAI ARE YOU OKAY SELDAN IS REALLY FREAKED OUT RIGHT NOW!!!!

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He's - okay is relative - he's alive and likely to stay that way?? Gulping air pretty urgently.

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That's great. That's wonderful. Everything is fine. Seldan's standards here have perhaps just been substantially lowered. 

(Seldan is also doing some passive poking to try to determine how much of the last five or six candlemarks Blai remembers anything from.) 

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Shavri seems to need a minute so Gemma can step in and fill in the context for these...fourteen??? clerics??? and their entourage who are thoroughly blocking the entire hallway of the House of Healing. 

:We've been keeping everyone alive for almost a week but we think the underlying injuries are lethal and we don't really understand what they are. Everyone's losing life-force continuously, we can patch it temporarily with channels - Van has six a day somehow - but Shavri moved them really often so it wasn't doing much anymore. We had four Lesser Restorations a day and that was - not enough to keep them from getting worse, obviously - and Shavri said it barely did anything this morning. We've been using Remove Sickness so they can eat a little at least for one candlemark a day. And obviously we're doing everything we can with Healing-Gift, which I think your world doesn't have, but it's not adequate to actually fix anything. Blai thought the stronger Restoration might help and we have diamond dust for it–: 

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Joshel finally manages to get a word in edgewise. :The High Priest of Nethys told me that there's a fourth-level spell that will fix it but that nobody would have it prepared today.: 

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Huh. Okay. 

:So I guess we need to figure out what keeps them alive until tomorrow. ...Oh, and I don't know if we've had much chance to explore whether your healing can fix mage-backlash, but I am getting the sense that they rushed the Gate back for you before they had an efficient route: given the THREE ADDITIONAL PATIENTS she was NOT WARNED TO EXPECT, :and if we can get them back on their feet sooner I imagine that will speed up getting a Gate-routing that doesn't result in anyone being unconscious on the floor afterward.: 

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"Would another channel now be beneficial?" asks Raad. "I have one left, presumably my colleagues have more. If that doesn't help with 'backlash' I'm not sure what is likeliest to work. I have Restoration prepared once, and the Lesser twice."

"I have a Restoration," says the Nethysian.

"I have a Lesser Restoration," says the third-circle Abadaran.

"Me too," says one of the fifth-circle Abadarans.

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One second does anyone know if Savil is in fact in Haven, Jisa needs to ask her something -

:Savil says that she thinks Lesser Restoration helps with backlash. She thinks a channel might help get them conscious again but not in any shape to do Gate-research today.:

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:We might as well include them in Van’s last one, he’s not actually out yet.: And unlike these people he’s not portable. They might want some of their channels on the Iftel border before dawn tomorrow.

Gemma tallies up spells in her head. :Four Lesser Restoration, two Restoration, that’s it until tomorrow? …I need to go ask Shavri.:

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it’s not fair that help is here and she still has to do triage. they were supposed to just fix it now

:Are we out of Remove Disease until tomorrow?: she checks.

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"He has one left and so does she," Raad says, pointing out two of the other Abadarans.

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:…Okay. I think we can manage until tomorrow if we expect to use a Remove Disease tonight on the two that only get a Lesser Restoration. And we need channels every three candlemarks. And I guess that leaves two for - Jisa, your call, whichever people are most useful to the Gate-research.: 

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:...Brightstar and the senior Adept.: Brightstar is actually conscious again at this point, just - indeed not in any condition to do anything with his mage-gift, and his lack of any formal math education means that he's more or less useless if he can't demonstrate what he's thinking. :The others will recover just fine on their own, they just need a day or two of rest.: 

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The next question is who the fuck gets the stronger Restorations. It's afternoon, it's actually not much longer to sunset, but it's a long, long night ahead. Van and Stef are definitely weakest, but - after this morning she cannot, actually, bring herself to deprioritize Blai again. 

:Blai and Stef get Restoration. Van and Seldan get Lesser Restoration and we save a Remove Disease for the middle of the night. We'll make it.: 

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Joshel glances at Cicerone Raad. :I think we can get Yfandes back today. If that would help for Van.: 

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:...That would definitely help.: Vanyel is still sobbing and trying to hug Stef while not really strong enough to accomplish this and it's mostly the stress of the last candlemark or two but Van will surely have a much more restful night if he's not fighting off being suicidal about the broken Companion-bond. 

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"I have Raise Dead prepared and there are certainly plenty of diamonds if someone will show me to her body," says Raad.

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"I have something which might help everyone in the room a little with the nausea and weariness... if you want to tie me up in this room concentrating on it indefinitely, which you may not. Alternately I can grant the ability to cast the spell to someone else, if they're powerful enough to hold it - about the equivalent of a third circle, but if you've got intelligent horses around it's possible one of them could hold it."

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:What else do you have that we're giving up on using elsewhere if we tie you up in this room?: Shavri has not at all been trying to keep of these people as individuals or remember which of them are particularly powerful. :Seldan - he's Select Blai's - is a Groveborn, they're stronger than other Companions, but I don't know if the fact that he's also dying matters.: 

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(Joshel is going to slip off to find the contact person from Leareth's organization who can help him arrange paying all of these people. He is mildly freaking out about how much he's committed to paying them! Leareth's organization can almost certainly afford it but Valdemar really can't!) 

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"Do you want... a complete list of what I have prepared? I get Heal as a domain spell though I don't know if we're holding that in reserve in case of emergency... Being dying would usually not matter for ability to receive the spell but would probably matter for ability to concentrate on it. If Raad is going to Raise another horse who will be useful here anyway that one might do?"

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:I don't know what that one does or if it would help, though we should probably save something in case of an emergency. Is there a way to...check...if Yfandes can do it, that doesn't involve trying and wasting it if she can't?: 

Shavri is so tired. She's trying to be patient and thoughtful and consider everything carefully but her mindvoice is flat and toneless. 

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"Heal does most things, though we are told it will not actually address this underlying cause," says Khayr, glancing at the contingent's Nethysian. "If I try to cast it on her and she can't hold it it just won't work."

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Okay but does that mean he just has to stay himself or do they not get it at all if they bet wrong. Shavri is way too tired for this. 

:I'm not sure exactly what the thing is that makes someone as powerful as a third-circle cleric but if you can make a lineup of yourselves in order of less to more powerful I can see if it correlates with the thing I can see.: If it's purely the life-force thing then Seldan isn't quite at Blai's level and Yfandes definitely isn't. 

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...sure, they can do that. Khayr and Raad are tied, and then there's two Abadarans and a Nethysian, then another Abadaran, then some of the rest... "My friend in the hall is not a caster but is on par with Raad and I."

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Okay. Something definitely seems to correlate strongly. Shavri doesn't really feel that she has a good handle on it. 

:I'm guessing Yfandes is not strong enough. Maybe worth trying if it won't waste the opportunity entirely, otherwise I guess it's either worth trapping you in here all night or it isn't and we don't get it at all.:

Which, well, they've gotten through this so far without it, but everyone is having an absolutely miserable time and Shavri hates that even if turns out fine in the end. She feels like she owes Blai some kind of apology over this morning but she doesn't know if he remembers it and if he doesn't then bringing it up would just be awkward and in any case she is way, way too tired to think about it at all. 

:Joshel knows what we need on the border which affects how costly it is to trap you here instead. Joshel can you– where did he go - nevermind. I do want to get the Restorations and Lesser Restorations as soon as possible. Gemma do you have diamond dust for it, I thought Joshel had it -: She really wants to...sit down, or something...she's so incredibly tired... 

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"Where do you want the Lesser Restorations? We don't know these people's names, please point."

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Lesser Restoration for the one who’s a horse and the silver-haired man holding the Shelyn holy symbol. Shavri can point and make sure there’s no ambiguity. Full Restorations, once Gemma turns up diamond dust, will go on this man wearing Iomedae’s holy symbol, and this scrawny redhaired barely-adult who despite his exhaustion is watching all of the proceedings with a thoughtful, almost calculating expression. 

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Oh they must not have enough Restorations to hit everyone today. Seldan is so incredibly on board with the plan where Blai gets one of them. BLAI NO MORE DYING THAT WAS REALLY STRESSFUL AND BAD. 

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"For Endurance?" And when this is confirmed Raad can do the both of them.

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For Endurance is right yeah.

 

…Shavri really needs to sit down now. Can Gemma handle this. Please.

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:She’s been awake for almost thirty-six candlemarks and could honestly use a Lesser Restoration herself but I don’t have the impression we have any going spare today: Gemma tells Raad. :Jisa, where do we need the objects?:

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Brightstar is in this room over here down the hall. The other mages are, uh, wherever Gemma told someone to put them? Jisa was distracted and missed exactly when they stopped being on the floor.

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Oh right. That room. Jisa can point out which one they need the Lesser Restoration on. 

Gemma does not think she actually personally has any of the diamond dust so they’ll have to get it from Joshel when he’s back from wherever he went.

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He’s back, he’s back! He has brought a Mindspeaker from Leareth’s organization who can talk to Raad about payment. Also here is the diamond dust, the Abadaran acolytes are guarding the box of bigger diamonds but the diamond dust was in his—

 

—pocket. 

It’s really fortunate it was in a bag but the outside of the bag is covered in something gooey and brown and now so is Joshel’s hand.

:Um: says Joshel faintly. :The High Priest of Nethys gave me a, a “Snickers” dessert-bar. I didn’t realize it would do that.:

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"She's like that," says Raad.

"She's brilliant," says the Nethysian defensively.

"The dust should still work." He holds out his hand. "Wizard, I've forgotten your name, can you get the, uh -"

"Uh-huh," says the wizard, who's also standing in the hall but can see. The melted chocolate disappears from the bag. Raad would ask "who first" but it would probably take longer to have that interaction than to get both Restorations cast. He sprinkles diamond dust on Stef, chanting.

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Stef beams at him with as much charm as he can muster, which is substantially more once the Restoration hits. People are still going to be singing his song in FIVE HUNDRED YEARS if he has anything to say about it, it’s going to be AMAZING…

Once he’s somewhat more able to move, he hugs Vanyel, who is still crying. 

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he screwed up at the worst possible moment and that’s going to have to go in the song too

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Seldan is telling himself very firmly that Blai is NOT imminently dying and it’s OKAY to go second it’ll barely be a wait at all.

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Sprinkle sprinkle chant chant.

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WOW that's a LOT better but nobody is acting like that's it? He does not derive from the body language around him that he's supposed to get up and leave the sickroom - is that just because Seldan hasn't had one - he's still nauseous, why is he still nauseous -

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(He’s also still pretty weak and shaky - he could probably stand and walk to the door just fine, but it would be a struggle to do anything in armor.)

Seldan is still getting more oomph out of a Lesser Restoration, and since it has had the energy to harass people in Mindspeech about what’s going on and what exactly the plan is.

:…I think we’re still dying, that was another temporary fix. There’s an obscure fourth circle spell that will, er, fix the underlying damage according to the - High Priest of Nethys? Who Joshel spoke with? But they’ll need to prepare it at dawn. In the meantime they’re trying to figure out if Companions count as comparably strong to a third-circle cleric, someone has a spell that does a longer lasting Remove Sickness effect and can maybe give someone else the ability to do it if they’re powerful enough. And can concentrate on it all night which I don’t think I can. - they’re going to Raise Yfandes today. I guess they decided she’s a higher priority than Leareth.:

Given Vanyel’s apparent state and the fact that the Heralds have demonstrably been getting along fine with Leareth’s people even in the absence of the man himself, Seldan doesn’t disagree with that prioritization. 

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Shit, Blai forgot the High Priestess of Nethys existed until just now, is Joshel like okay or has he gone mad. She's insane. Incredibly powerful and knows things that should be impossible to know without prophecy but insane. ...Blai is a literal third circle cleric? He's feeling a lot better now and could maybe concentrate on something all night? Though maybe he shouldn't if they have another candidate and he's still getting worse in case he gets too worse to do that over the course of the night. What if there is not enough room for Yfandes in the room and Vanyel is grouchy about her being away. What if Vanyel dies in the middle of the night and then Yfandes and Stef follow right after him.

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(Anxious Blai is so so so reassuring and not even just because it means he isn't DEAD.) 

Joshel seems fine??? Had an embarrassing moment where his pocket with the Restoration diamond dust had become full of brown gooey stuff and that was in some way the fault of the High Priest of Nethys but he seemed, like, embarrassed about it in a normal way. 

Seldan thinks that the backup plan is just that the cleric who can do it themselves needs to stay all night slash that if some larger emergency happens outside this room then they'll stop getting the Remove Sickness effect at that point. Seldan thinks Blai should NOT do anything that would require him not getting any sleep for the next fifteen candlemarks which is about how long they need to wait. ...Maybe more like sixteen, fifteen until the next dawn but the spells won't be available for a candlemark after that. There will definitely be enough room for Yfandes and Vanyel...is in fact probably the most at risk tonight, he only got a Lesser Restoration and it sounds like unlike Seldan he didn't get much benefit from it, but they have a backup Remove Disease for him, in fact there are two left and Seldan thinks he's not at risk of dying before morning even if he goes without. Also they have...Heal?...as a backup spell, which the Nethysian cleric here apparently informed them will not fix the underlying problem but it does "most things" so it should definitely keep Vanyel alive until a candlemark after dawn. 

What else, oh, Joshel says that the High Priest of Nethys agreed to convey a message to the archmages doing the Chelish Constitutional Convention? Because she...babysits...their children? Is that at all wise if she's insane? Whatever they're not his children. (Joshel also asked Seldan to please stop Mindspeaking him for the next candlemark while he figures out all the logistics.) 

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Oh yeah Heal is REALLY good. They should use it before dawn even if there isn't an emergency, it's like getting as many Lesser Restorations as you could possibly need all at once plus a gigantic Cure plus a Remove Sickness And Also Lots Of Other Stuff That Might Be Wrong With You. It's weird if it doesn't get the progressive damage. Are they just taking Nefreti Clepati's word for it. Like she probably KNOWS, sure, but that's different from whether she was honest. Not that he knows enough to impugn her honesty really but. .......it actually makes a lot of sense that she'd babysit the archmages' children, in the sense that she'd be responsible for preventing anyone from kidnapping them. Not very many people are competent to do that at such a high level of potential targetability. It doesn't necessarily mean she does the actual childcare? Though maybe she does, Blai has no idea. What if there is an emergency and Joshel HAS to be interrupted and drops something important, is there anyone helping him on logistics - should Blai be trying to talk to any of these people or are they all Osirian, they look Osirian and he doesn't speak it but some of them might have Taldane, lots of people do, and Blai has more mutual context - probably the Mindspeakers are on it but what if they've all been overusing their gifts -

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Oh yeah Joshel has plenty of people to delegate to and is in the process of doing just that, he just has a ton of context to hand off because he spent six and a half candlemarks in another world and also he seems kind of stressed about how much money they agreed to pay all these clerics to come on short notice, even though Leareth's organization can ABSOLUTELY afford it and won't at all be mad at Joshel for not negotiating harder on price. Apparently the sixth circle cleric of Abadar - this guy, his name is Raad - said that the High Priest is usually right and then everyone said "okay fine" and also it sounds like the obscure spell is lower circle and doesn't even need diamond dust like Restoration so it seems worth testing, as long as they also prepare enough backup spells to keep them alive another day. Seldan is definitely getting pretty tired of stretching out whatever spells to keep them alive another day without fixing the problem but it is SO MUCH BETTER THAN BLAI BEING DEAD and it won't get nearly as bad as this morning. 

(Does Blai in fact remember any of this morning after the stimulant wore off? Seldan is aware that this is unfair, because it did in fact work and they're both still here and alive, but he still has an urge to kick Shavri in the head every time he sees her face. Apparently that feeling has no difficult coexisting with feeling moderately worried about her, she looks pretty not okay and has...definitely not slept...at any point in the last thirty-six candlemarks and someone should really tell her to go lie down, they've got this, but no one has yet and Seldan is not in their chain of command.)  

 

...If Blai is feeling up for it it's probably not a bad idea for him to sync up with whoever considers themselves in charge and tell them everything he would consider relevant to report about the last few weeks and the conditions in Velgarth generally. Joshel would have done his best but he was under a lot of time pressure and he indeed lacks mutual context that Blai has. If none of the new arrivals have Taldane then Seldan could relay. 

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If there are this many clerics around somebody should channel soon and then Blai won't pronounce words wrong because of his mouth being fucked up. The people of Sothis probably know more about Nefreti Clepati than Blai does unless it's one of those situations where people close to the situation just get really used to it and can be more easily shown specific things they find to be exonerating or whatever whereas only the big news makes it across the sea but he doesn't specifically have reason to expect that. Blai's sorry about being dead, he didn't do it on purpose but probably should have tried harder at something at some point to avoid it anyway.

...he remembers that it was unpleasant but it's kind of mostly faded, like a nightmare that he wakes up knowing was a nightmare but can't reconstruct in terms of events.

Raad might be in charge though that Sarenrite also looks pretty imposing, that's a very nice headband he's got there. Probably it's Raad though in terms of logistics because Joshel would have gone to the Abadarans first and they'd be the ones organizing everything. He would like to thank them? That seems appropriate if they're not too busy? But the Taldane for "thank you" would put his teeth RIGHT on this one sore and he'd sound weird.

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Poke poke Mindspeech harassment. Seldan should in fact stop doing this at some point, he's not nearly back up to his normal stamina even if he's feeling a little better, but it's a particularly high value time for it. 

(If Blai doesn't remember enough of the details of this morning to be upset about it then Seldan is certainly not going to dwell on his Shavri revenge fantasies where Blai can see it, and...he actually just doesn't endorse it, at all, she did a truly spectacular job of triage and kept them all alive for almost a week and even if it only saved two diamonds and two Raise Dead castings, that's still two more dead people who can come back however much sooner - or two marginal people who might not be Raised at all otherwise, Leareth's organization surely can't afford infinite diamonds - and that is worth something.) 

:Gemma's trying to count up how many channels everyone has so they can decide who to send to the border and who to keep in Haven, we need - Shavri said every three candlemarks and Van's holding his last one for something but he'll do it soon -:

Seldan can totally do math. Hmm. 

:Then we need at least...four?...more, I think, it would be a more pleasant night if we get them more often but we won't die and I'm getting the impression there are still towns and towns full of injured people on the Iftel border and a few more of them die every night they have to wait for healing. ...Oh, they're hauling Brightstar and one of the other mages who did the return Gate in here to catch Van's channel in case it helps, to speed up finding a routing that won't drain someone unconscious every time we do a Gate. ...They'd probably have an optimal routing by morning if we got Leareth back but only if he was healthy and I - you were brought back with a different spell, I don't know if Raise Dead is better, but you still had all the things wrong with you -: 

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If Blai was only dead for a moment it was probably Breath of Life, which should have filled him up on what Cures do so maybe the sores just won't respond to Cures. In which case he should just talk to people. Someone brought back with a Raise Dead will be a bit weak till they get a Restoration; Breath of Life only does that temporarily. Do they have enough dust to Restoration everybody they're going to bring back, or at least the ones whose robustness is at all a concern?

"Thank you," he croaks aloud in the general direction of Raad and the Sarenrite.

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"You're welcome," smiles the Luminary benevolently.

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"It's all covered, no thanks are necessary."

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Awww. These people are so– Seldan has no idea if they all read Good but they're certainly being very, very helpful. 

(Maybe a channel will do more after the Restoration? Shavri was certainly very adamant that they do their daily Lesser Restorations before the first channel of the day and it seems like the progressive damage was hitting their ability to benefit from channels, given how they had to move them closer together this morning as everyone deteriorated. ...Seldan does not think there should be a lack of diamond dust. Joshel was sent to Sothis with twenty Raise Dead-size diamonds and a few more of the biggest diamonds that Leareth's organization could procure on short notice and Seldan is pretty sure that wasn't their entire stock. One reason it would certainly be nice to have Leareth back sooner rather than later is to clarify the alliance terms, since Seldan isn't sure anyone is entirely clear on how much direction Valdemar has over the use of all those diamonds, but in the short term he really doubts that Leareth's people are going to begrudge the diamond dust needed to get everyone with Restorations.) 

He addresses Raad and the Sarenrite in Mindspeech. :I'm Seldan. Select Artigas' Companion. If it would be valuable to you to get a situation report from someone with more Golarion context, we're happy to provide one sometime in the next few candlemarks.: And he'll leave it at that for now, they probably also have a lot of logistics to sort out with Joshel. 

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Brightstar accompanies Jisa into the room a moment later. He looks...all right, he's more or less steady on his feet after a Lesser Restoration, unlike the other Adept following him who's still squinting and trying to shade his eyes like the light is giving him a headache. 

He tries to catch Blai's eye, with a slightly plaintive expression, as though he's trying to ask with his eyes alone whether he did a good job. 

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Vanyel still can't stop crying because he is a useless waste of a person, but channeling doesn't require a verbal component. He can do that fine. 

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It doesn't help much with backlash but it does a little for the specific element where, even though he's not that drained, Brightstar still feels like he sprained his mage-channels and it comes with the dizzy-sick feeling of having hit his head really hard. 

It seems to help a little more for Leareth's Adept, who hasn't already had seven candlemarks to rest and in fact was still unconscious until the Lesser Restoration; the man still looks a bit woozy but he'll be able to talk through what he did with the others. 

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(The Abadarans are probably overwhelmingly Lawful Neutral. The Sarenrite probably Lawful or Neutral Good.) ...the channel did help, though there is still a bit of a sore in that one specific place. Vanyel's channels don't hit very hard. Which should not be a huge problem since he already said thank you. There's something alarming about the prospect of powdering a diamond that's big enough to be useful whole - they should be finding ones that are slightly too big, and shaving off a little of those, or ones that are too small for anything and pulverizing those. Do they know that?? Is that not obvious - what if they don't know and they destroy thousands of gold in value that way - why is Vanyel crying, is something Blai doesn't know about already going wrong now - what is Brightstar looking at him like that for -

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Seldan feels like Leareth's staff are intelligent people who can probably infer that a diamond big enough for Raise Dead is really useful and they should not powder it and should use smaller diamonds, but he can Mindspeak someone to make sure - actually are there diamonds smaller than Raise Dead that are still useful for different spells - 

 

Seldan's interpretation is that Vanyel is in the immediate term crying because, one, the emergency is over and it's pretty common for non-Chelish humans who just had to deal with an extended stressful emergency to break down a little bit once it ends, Shavri was crying before too though she pulled herself together once it was clear that she still needed to coordinate. And two, he probably feels really bad because it took him eighteen seconds to successfully cast Stabilize and by that point it didn't work anymore and Blai needed the Breath of Life - this was in no way whatsoever Vanyel's fault, to be clear, it's really impressive that he did manage to cast it a couple of times before that when he'd been able to get a Guidance up on himself ahead of time, the last two times were just too close together - oh and of course in the less immediate term he still has a broken Companion-bond but they're fixing that soon. 

Seldan's interpretation of Brightstar's expression is that Brightstar...wants to know if he's forgiven now that he helped fix it? But it's not like it's really Blai's place to forgive him. He should talk to Vanyel. Ideally once Vanyel has had more healing than a Lesser Restoration that barely even did anything and once he has Yfandes back. 

(They're almost certainly going to be getting stronger channels next now that Vanyel used his last one and nearly everyone who came is higher than first circle. Not that anyone can really benefit from the additional oomph except for Blai, Seldan thinks he himself was previously benefiting a lot more but he missed several days of the Lesser Restorations and something is definitely interfering with it now and he's very much looking forward to having that dealt with tomorrow. And also not being nauseous, he's really very tired of being nauseous. It's nice at least that he's gotten a Remove Disease and it now feels a lot less like something with teeth is slowly consuming his insides.) 

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Blai appreciates that when he thinks something that isn't garbage he now has a telepathic relay to get it where it needs to go immediately so he does not have to worry (as much) about forgetting to deliver the information himself.

That is a weird tendency for non-Chelish humans to have. Is it... useful in any way, or just hard to train out so most people don't.

Blai does not really have a working model of what forgiveness is or what it's for let alone how to do it, or he would consider offering Brightstar this service!

What is stopping them from getting Yfandes back, did no one have a Raise prepped? Have the diamonds gone missing? Did they already powder them all

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Forgiveness is...mostly relevant in a relationship that was affected by a shitty thing someone did, which is why Brightstar should talk to Vanyel, who is both someone Brightstar was relevant close to and someone who considered Leareth a friend. Though it would be reasonably to thank Brightstar, who is very significantly responsible for all these lovely clerics being here at all, and who bought it for them by getting himself set on fire six times a day and spending the last seven candlemarks suffering from horrific backlash.   

The diamonds are definitely not missing and someone specifically has a Raise prepped and it's been, like, less than ten minutes, the delay is probably just that everyone is kind of frazzled and someone needs to remember where they put her and walk the cleric over to that location. Where did they put her, Seldan feels like he should know this... 

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Joshel is in fact in the middle of confirming with Leareth's contact person who can authorize things like that that yes they agree to allocate one of the diamonds they contributed for Raising Yfandes today! And after that they can go get her! 

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They should of course do that first, for Vanyel's sake, but afterward the man currently in command of Leareth's organization would like to discuss with Raad the timeline for raising him. And Nayoki. They really, really need both of them back. 

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"I can prepare a Raise Dead twice a day - three if I use my sixth circle slot which may be called for - and the Luminary can do the same, and the three fifth circle clerics we brought can do it four times a day between them. So we will be able to get all of your priorities tomorrow, and in the meantime should set about getting Gentle Repose cast on anyone who, on that schedule, we will not reach before they have been dead for longer than eleven days - that's my and also the Luminary's Raise Dead time limit; the lower-circle clerics have shorter ones. We can each do several of those a day, so can all but the very most junior clerics, and we have a wand along also if the number of targets is too great to cover but the wand has resale value equal to what I paid for it if we can cover it with normal castings only."

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…They will have to do some math. More complicated math than expected, given how it's been ten days since all of their casualties. That and some other questions can wait on Yfandes.

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Who is over this way in the Healers’ stillroom. 

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Raad goes where he is led, receives a diamond, and - sings; he learned this incantation to music well before he was able to cast it.

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whatthe—

 

- Vanyel -

 

Where is she why is she on a table - not a table, some kind of raised slab of very cold stone - she at least noticed in time to avoid scrambling up first and breaking something - 

 

- Vanyel Vanyel Vanyel where is he

 

She lifts her head to look around and - very quickly parses some things. 

She wouldn’t be waking up in the Healers’ stillroom if she had merely been injured. The person standing in front of her isn’t Valdemaran and isn’t dressed in any style she recognizes. He is also definitely not Blai, but there’s something reminiscent.

….So she did die in the avalanche. And she’s been - dead - Leareth must have gotten a Gate to Blai’s world but that means it’s been weeks - 

:Thank you: she sends to the man, with as much dignity as she can manage. :Excuse me, but do you know where Herald Vanyel is, I - how long has it been - how did you—:

VANYEL VANYEL VANYEL she can’t feel him, the stillroom is shielded at least since Sandra started using it for alchemy experiments, she can’t feel him and what if he’s - but why would they bother bringing her back if he’s dead, he has to be - but she can’t feel him - but he has to be - 

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"I last saw him down that hall on the right."

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...Gemma was worried about somehow getting in the way and was standing back with Joshel just outside the door, but probably Yfandes could use a familiar face. She ducks back in. 

"He's - a lot of things happened and I can't honestly say he's fine but he will be. Let's get you down from there, I think you want to - turn like so and get your left back leg down first..." 

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Yfandes is no longer injured at all - she feels diffusely off in some unclear way she can't pin down but it doesn't interfere with moving her limbs - and she can get herself off the slab with some coaching. 

She thanks the man again because it really feels like she hasn't done that enough and she has so many questions but that can wait. She walks out, because it's not the safest thing for a horse to attempt anything faster than a walk in a confined space, but she's out and now she can feel him. 

 

:Van are you -: 

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:Where are you - are you all right -: 

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:I'm fine - I'm coming I'll be right there - I'm so sorry -: 

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:It wasn't your fault none of it was your fault: 

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:That's not - that doesn't matter, I'm still - I'm almost there -: 

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Vanyel isn't actually trying to get out of bed and run to her because, one, he did not get a Restoration and doesn't think he can, and two, a Healer would yell at him. 

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She gets there soon enough, anyway, and she's - he - Vanyel does not look particularly all right, at all - Stef is there, Blai and a - Companion she doesn’t know? what? - are there too and only look a little better - what happened - doesn't matter right now - 

 

:I'm back, it's all right, I'm not going anywhere: 

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Sobbing not-especially-coherent Vanyel trying to wrap himself around her neck, ignoring the fact that this hurts pretty much every part of his body. 

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....Just so Blai is aware that almost certainly doesn't mean anything is wrong. It's also normal for non-Chelish people to cry when they're very very relieved and happy. No he also doesn't know why that's a thing. 

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Well, it's a slightly pleasanter flavor of being Face Yelled At he guesses.

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Vanyel is really not all that coherent right now and it takes Yfandes about three seconds to be pretty sure that he's DYING and another five extremely frantic seconds to determine, via Mindspeaking every Healer in the room at once, that he's not imminently dying right now and they have a plan. He is nonetheless clearly groggy and feeling awful and she’s not getting much out of him that makes any sense except 

 

WHAT 

 

She Mindspeaks Stef and Blai and the mystery Companion. :Van thinks Leareth is dead - how - what -: That’s not a thing!!! 

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Oh yeah that happened. Stef is pretty confused on a lot of the details due to the having been trapped in the Foresight dream and going straight from that to dying slowly for the last week.

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Trapped in the - what - what did she MISS

 

:Blai what happe— wait is that your Companion???:

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:Seldan. Delighted to meet you, welcome back.:

Blai got the Restoration and Seldan is kind of feeling the Mindspeech-overuse and Stef does not seem to have gotten caught up. Maybe Blai can fill Yfandes in a bit if he’s feeling up for it. 

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:Yes, he's my Companion. He was something of an emergency Shadow-god intervention, as I understand it:

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An intervention to accomplish what— no, that much she can actually guess.

:You ran into trouble in Haven? And they wouldn’t listen to you as a random foreigner from another world, so you needed one of us as the mark of guaranteed trustworthiness.: There is perhaps a hint of bitter sarcasm in her mindvoicd.

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:Oh right yes that. They thought Vanyel was dead. A sympathetic miscommunication as those went, the Death Bell rang for him. False alarm, obviously.:

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:I…see: Yfandes manages faintly. :And we - did we go to war -?: Not that that would explain how Leareth DIED. Vanyel didn’t do it, obviously, he’s right here and not a post-Final-Strike smear of ashes and he’s also clearly incredibly upset about it.

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That was over a week ago and there were SO many things and Seldan is brainfoggy. There was the earthquake and they rescued Leareth - Blai almost drowned in the river, he thinks that was later - Blai help? 

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:We did not go to war. Brightstar attempted an assassination and succeeded at making Leareth no longer immortal, there were earthquakes involved, we went north to assist, we apprehended Brightstar safely, I did some prophecy spells and thus were able to head off some potential future issues, Seldan and I fell in the river and I met the Shadow-Lover but She sent me back, the Heartstone was shut down, Leareth began research on how to reach Golarion, he and Vanyel fell unwakeably into the Foresight dream, I was able to prepare an obscure spell to feed them and also Stef who joined them, Brightstar received some - updates - from his goddess. Iftel... exploded. Which caused the progressive damage syndrome the four of us presently have and some have died of it already, including Leareth, who Gated away but was then not found to be treated until it had progressed more. Vanyel is now a cleric of Shelyn. Herald Joshel and Queen Karis also received empowerments from Abadar and Sarenrae respectively. Others including Brightstar took up Leareth's research and found Golarion, which brings us to today; Cicerone Raad just Raised you. You will feel a bit weak and worse at things until and unless you get a full Restoration:

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Yfandes waits patiently for Blai to finish even as the questions pile up. 

Brightstar did what? How?? Blai almost died, oh no, poor Seldan, was the Shadow-Lover any less frustratingly cryptic— more things! They shut down the Heartstone?? Why - oh, she can put that one together, if the Star-Eyed Goddess was hostile and the Heartstone access was how She had fooled the Death Bell. 

Stef had mentioned being stuck in the Foresight dream offhand but not— that doesn’t actually leave her unconfused.

Brightstar again, what -

 

Iftel did WHAT??? How? Why? …it does, at least, seem like something that could kill Leareth, and apparently BRIGHTSTAR of all people had already -

 

Who in the world is Shelyn - another Golarion god presumably - it does explain the weird…thing…she couldn’t make sense of in Van’s mind. Good for Joshel. …Wait, Karis works for a Golarion god now, how did that - well, Iftel EXPLODING must have been an unpleasant surprise, a betrayal even…

- Brightstar again. Brightstar did what this time!!?? It’s clearly good but she’s so confused!!!

 

It takes her another whole minute to put her thoughts in order.

:Do we have a way to raise Leareth and are people, er, in agreement that we should, or not so much?: That seems like the first question. Vanyel is so upset about it and that makes so much sense now that she knows - well, somewhat more of the story. She does not feel like she’s even close to the whole story.

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:I believe they plan for him to be in the next batch:

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:…There is the complication that we aren’t certain he will consent to resurrection. I - have no idea if it’s been conveyed to anyone that we have concerns about that? Yfandes, is there any chance you remember what it felt like?:

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:…Not really, sorry. It - I wouldn’t have been confused if it felt something like becoming a Companion in the first place. Which I don’t remember either, do you?:

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:I didn’t even remember my name! - from before, I mean. For some reason bits came back when we talked to the Shadow-Lover later. I was Herald Seldasen, apparently. Any idea who you were?:

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There is a very abrupt pause.

:You’re serious, aren’t you?: Yfandes says after a long moment.

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:…Ye-es? Why? Oh, have you read my work, that would be - I assumed no one would still—: It would be so flattering though! Herald Vanyel’s Companion!

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:- Did no one tell you?:

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Suspicion!! 

:Did no one tell me what:

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:They didn’t! I can’t believe it, there’s no way I’m the only person who realized! Your work is more widely read than - probably anything ever written by a Herald - maybe more than anything written by King Valdemar himself, I don’t think I consulted the founding texts again after school -:

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Surprise, pleasure, a wave of enormous smugness.

 

:Well. That’s certainly a flattering thing to learn about one’s legacy.: Why didn’t anyone tell him???? He could really have used one single thing to feel good about over the last many many days!!!

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That really does seem like kind of a glaring omission but maybe there lots of Valdemaran names that sound kind of like that?? Anyway the Shadow-Lover seemed to think She was done with their consultation on getting Leareth to consent to resurrection with is sort of LIKE being confident he will, probably.

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Seldan doesn’t remember feeling incredibly reassured of it but it’s - probably not actually all that decision-relevant, he’s PRETTY sure he thought to pass everything along to Leareth’s people at the time and if they want to just try and hope it works, they certainly have the diamonds to spare and there’s no shortage of clerics who can cast it. 

:Any other questions?: he asks Yfandes.

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So many!!! She’s having trouble putting them in order to ask one at a time.

 

:Do we know - why? Why any of that happened? Especially Iftel, I - don’t - understand, what Vkandis could possibly have been aiming for that was worth. That.:

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:We think He was aiming at killing Leareth permanently:

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Okay sure but was it worth THAT??? A country that’s stood since the Cataclysm? A peaceful, prosperous, by all accounts lovely country, notwithstanding their shockingly vicious military “games” and the unexpectedly alarming army that resulted from it.

:…Is anything…left…?: she manages faintly. :Of Iftel, I mean.:

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:- Oh, yes, sorry if that was unclear. It was the barrier that exploded, not literally all of it. I think thousands of people died immediately, almost certainly, and - it’ll be tens of thousands by spring unless the clerics can do a really shockingly good job of turning it around. But it’s not a majority of the country that was lost, I don’t think.:

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That’s…marginally less bad than what Yfandes’ mind had leapt to? Not, really, all that much less bad. It’s still boggling.

 

:…Why did Brightstar turn around and help?: She does remember now, wasn’t there that confusing prophecy on Leareth, it shouldn’t have come as a complete surprise. But it’s baffling that after all that, Brightstar went and got them a Gate and delivered a team of clerics who are apparently all on board with Raising Leareth.

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:Blai gave him some good advice.: Because he has the BEST HERALD. Who is ALIVE and NOT DEAD, Seldan is perhaps going to be feeling bursts of relief and gratitude about that every few minutes for a few days until he gets over it.

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:I would credit it to his goddess changing her mind!:

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:That was a fairly important prerequisite: Seldan admits. :He got a whole apology vision, it was actually quite sweet. Oh, and Jisa told him Leareth would pay to Raise his parents.: 

Which they don't actually know is true!! :I should ask someone at some point, but - that’s going to be a lot harder, isn’t it? Because we don’t have bodies at all and probably none of the clerics here can do it. How much more expensive is it?: That part is directed at Blai. :And, hm, what was it - the thing She claimed to Brightstar that you wanted to check if She was lying, if - oh you were wondering if She sent them to Nirvana, is that something that's checkable now that we have higher circle clerics?: 

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:A True Reurrection is ninth circle. Nefreti Clepati can do it, if she wants to, with a bigger diamond. I don't actually know who else has a ninth-circle priest active right now. Most ancient gods probably do - the visiting clerics probably know at least for their own churches. Scrying is fifth circle..... for clerics; they brought a wizard who might know it and it would trade off less dearly for the present situation:

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Seldan will make a mental note to at some point ask someone about non-insane ninth-circle clerics of non-insane gods, but it sounds very tiring right now. Though come to think of it maybe Yfandes can take over some of the Mindspeech-coordination, she's only slightly weaker and worse at things and Seldan is...a lot more than slightly worse at things right now. 

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Yfandes is having trouble following again. :Sorry, what's Nirvana, did that come up before?: 

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:It's an afterlife. One of the nice ones. Blai at some point suggested to...I assume the Shadow-Lover? That it would be a nice place to send dead souls, I can't actually remember when it came up, it might've just been when we learned he had Leareth.:

He wonders vaguely if Leareth's mages, if they had a chance to watch a Golarion-style scry on a specific afterlife, would be able to figure out how to copy it? It might take weeks more math and still leave someone unconscious, though, which isn't at this point that much less costly than a fifth-circle spell slot. ...Can you send, like, letters, to people in afterlives? Joshel's report included that the High Priest of Nethys was confident the archmages would be able to send Joshel a message if they so wished and if archmages can send letters to Velgarth, which they only just heard of, maybe they can also...

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...Yfandes feels like she might have several more questions about the "Shadow-Lover has Leareth" conversation being referenced but they're not quite coming together yet. 

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You can send Sendings (this may also be what Clepati meant about the archmages being able to contact Joshel), and sometimes can land a Message through a scry (another candidate, though she could have meant some third, insane thing). :I believe I referred the Shadow-Lover to Nirvana the first time we spoke, when I'd drowned:

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That's entirely plausible! Seldan is really hoping that his supposedly perfect Groveborn memory comes back once he's properly recovered. 

 

Maybe Yfandes is for the moment caught up? And he can take a nap now?

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Leareth's staff have produced a list of people in order of priority to Raise! The man in interim command while Nayoki and Leareth are both absent - at least of the "coordination with Valdemar and interworld contact" aspect of things, the organization is currently running in a somewhat fragmented state - can meet with Raad as soon as the immediate healing-and-Yfandes-related matters have been dealt with. 

 

They have 89 intact (human) bodies, at this point. Leareth, Nayoki, the three Healers who didn't make it, and 84 other intact bodies, a mix of people who died in the various earthquake-collapses and were carried out at the time or successfully extracted later on, and people who died later but before they could get to a channel. (5 of the 84, all from one group in a mountain lookout-post with only one onsite mage who was, very unluckily, killed instantly before he could get a Gate up; their station only partially collapsed, but in all the chaos and given their inability to get a message out, they weren't tracked down for almost 36 candlemarks and about half of them didn't quite make it; they died between 8 and 9 days ago so can be gotten by the clerics with the shorter time limits?) 

If it’s relevant to anything: five of those died of the progressive damage syndrome progressing to its conclusion. The rest were just normal injuries that a channel would have fixed fine if one were available, which it wasn’t. 

They also have seven intact kyree bodies, in total, making 96. Based on Yfandes' successful return to life, it seems like it works fine on non-humanoid sentients. ...The complication there is that only one of the kyree casualties received a Gentle Repose before Iftel exploded, and they died thirteen days ago. It's probably worth getting the remaining six with a Gentle Repose today, if more powerful clerics could stretch Raise Dead to cover that long, but they don't have anyone who can do it now and it might be simplest to transport them to Golarion later where they can take advantage of the cheaper Resurrections. 

They are unlikely to extract any more bodies from the northern base that collapsed; it was basically turned into magma within ten minutes of the evacuation. They...are probably not in the near term going to attempt to get anyone else back from that base. Nayoki was the only organization-critical person, other than Leareth, who was on site at that time. 

They do want to know if the Resurrection spell works on partial bodies, because it's likely that quite a lot of those could be retrieved for the kyree casualties if it were worth an expensive digging-up-the-rubble operation that would still be a lot less expensive than the Resurrections, and it sounds like the cost could be spread out over a longer period, if it's not as time-sensitive as Raise Dead. (The kyree were killed as a direct result of being among the first vaguely-allied-with-Valdemar people to step in and help, when they were trying to de-escalate the situation, and they paid a very high price for that help. Leareth thought it was important to repair the damage eventually, though "eventually" may be multiple years.) 

 

They currently have roughly 40 diamonds large enough for Raise Dead, counting the ones they sent with Joshel to negotiate with and others that were held back. The timeline to get the remaining 60-ish, plus a handful more if they negotiate with Valdemar to lend some for their people, is - weeks, but probably not many months. 

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(Things not said aloud: this is absolutely not a sustainable rate of diamond procurement, and just because they can obtain a hundred Raise Dead diamonds in three weeks doesn’t mean that’s repeatable next month. It's a huge operation. They're spending down financial resources and various favors that took Leareth and his various side projects centuries to amass. They're taking significant advantage of the fact that they still have over two hundred mages and can do simultaneous Gates to every major city on the continent, and that no one else knows, yet, that diamonds are about to be a whole lot more useful. 

They also lost well over a hundred people in total. Still vastly lower casualties than in Iftel; they were a military operation with very paranoid security requirements, most of the locations had a few seconds of warning from various wards and alarms, and all of the bases affected were shielded and the shields generally held long enough to get a Gate up. But they had forty thousand people north of the Ice Wall Mountains, once you tally up all the troops and mercenaries and support staff. They don't have the true final total yet. Less than a thousand, but probably more than five hundred. 84 is the number of bodies they retrieved, but it wasn't a random set of 84 people; the triage was earlier, in who it was worth evacuating despite injuries too severe to run for a Gate, and which bodies they risked trying to retrieve from half-collapsed rooms and halls afterward. It's the number of people whose presence they expect to matter significantly in...whatever comes after this. 

Mage-Commander Ovada is very much hoping that his decisions of the last week were reasonable and is both frantic to have Leareth and Nayoki back as soon as possible, and also feeling quite a lot of trepidation about what they might say.) 

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Resurrection works on even extremely partial remains and anyone who can cast it at all can do it more than a century on. (Completely rotted away soft tissue does not count as remains any more, but ashes and bones do if they want to process what they've got.) If Archmage Naima in particular does it, she does not need a diamond (up to twice a day); she still needs to be paid but can be paid in other negotiable currency.

If every one of the visiting clerics who can do so prepares Gentle Repose in all their second circle slots in the morning, they have nearly thirty of them, and they can push that up by using third circle slots too, plus they've got the wand for another 34, plus there are the clerics who were already here if they're helping, plus the handful of Raises they will have ready that day to start clearing the backlog. If everything is correctly organized and labeled, they can do this, but they will need to locate someone seventh circle or above for anyone who's been dead longer than eleven days, or kick them into the Resurrection queue. Archbanker Kalit Maron lives in Alexandria, not Sothis, but she's a ninth circle Abadaran who works for money and it's well within her range. (Or they can roll the dice on Clepati.) Khayr would know more than Raad about whether they should be bothering e.g. somebody in Qadira to check if their price is more competitive.

A Raise should fix whatever is wrong with someone (though ability damage is only fixed a little bit and having someone up and running at full capacity after they have been brought back wants a full Restoration), but just in case they might want to prepare some extra Progressive Damage Repair in addition to however many of those Restorations the dust can be provided for. They can convert it to Cures at the disaster relief border if it turns out to be unnecessary.

Have Velgarth mages considered mining in the Elemental Plane of Earth? It's infinite and possibly they have some tricks that Golarionites don't for locating pockets of diamonds and propitiating the local elementals about taking them away. Just as a long term thing, it's probably not the best use of their diamond-finding powers at this time.

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Oh, that could be a very good idea, actually! Brightstar and Jisa, who are two of the allied mages involved in the Gate-research (Ovada does not need to get into the various complications around Brightstar’s allied-ness), trained in an obscure secret mage-school with an unusual tradition of working collaboratively with elementals. His recollection is that Brightstar invested mostly in alliances in the Elemental Plane of Fire, but Jisa definitely has some quite intelligent Earth elementals reporting to her in exchange for regular gifts of mage-energy, and they might even be able to help find diamonds there. 

(Velgarth magic would not until recently have offered them a particularly safe way to get physical objects transported out of the Elemental Plane of Earth, but Brightstar just did some groundbreaking research on what sorts of wild direct-interplanar Gates are possible if you’re willing to get yourself badly injured in the process, and Earth is deeply annoying to Gate to but strictly speaking not as dangerous as the Elemental Plane of Fire.)

 

- it’s very important that they get Leareth and Nayoki back to full capacity as soon as possible and Ovada would be very grateful if they could prepare spells accordingly. 

The bodies are currently being stored mostly in several supply caches that survived the Vkandis attack, south of the mountains but a long way north from here. It may be simplest to bring everyone over by Gate, since they’re currently well-organized and labeled but would inevitably become less so in the process of moving them to Haven. The bodies of Nayoki, Leareth, and the three Healers are of course all in Haven. Ovada would recommend that they do Nayoki and a specific senior Healer first, to somewhat reduce the chances that Leareth comes back disoriented and tries to Gate somewhere random AGAIN. 

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They'll do these in whatever order they are asked; that's what they're here to do.

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Meanwhile, Khayr checks and Yfandes is not a valid recipient of a spell imbuing. "I can drop it on one of our contingent, or the Iomedaean. But I have a Ring of Sustenance and you're going to want the Heal before dawn anyway, so perhaps it makes the most sense for me to be the one directly concentrating on the spell which will make everyone feel less sick and tired. It will make a noise - not too loud to speak over, but a noise, very low, people can sometimes feel it more than hear it - and it will work on anyone who stays in the room, up to five people." (He's guessing ideally the four patients and whichever healer is taking night shift).

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…Yeah Shavri was not really expecting it would turn out to work with Yfandes. They would be very grateful if Khayr can be on overnight duty. It’ll incidentally hit the Healers on overnight duty - even now they’re keeping one Healer per patient, because that’s still necessary to slow the ongoing life-force drain enough to stretch the channel frequency. Stef and especially Blai are much better off, almost back to where they were on day one before the damage had a chance to build up, but Restoration didn’t seem to touch whatever deeper underlying thing is wrong. Shavri really, really hopes the spell tomorrow works.

(Maybe the spell will also work on Shavri’s tiredness? She - is on some level aware that she really should just leave and get some sleep tonight, but somehow that isn’t working. It doesn’t feel like a decision, just like repeatedly noticing that apparently she’s still here.)


…It feels like a selfish request, but Shavri’s going to make it anyway. :If we don’t end up needing the Heal for an emergency here, and - given that we expect it won’t solve the underlying problem for them, it may be worth seeing if it helps our King. He has a wasting illness — he’s not imminently dying, Select Artigas was able to cast some Lesser Restorations before all of this happened, but if it gets him all the way back to good health, Valdemar would be in a better position to handle - all of this.: 

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"Recentering Drone can target one healer on top of the four patients, unfortunately, I'm not strong enough to stretch it to more. As for the Heal - of course. And if there is an emergency I'll get another tomorrow, and another the day after; my other choice for the slot is a combat spell and we're not expecting that."

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(Shavri considers asking if they can switch which Healer it’s affecting partway, and concludes that she should really be taking this as an indication to LEAVE and GO TO BED. She’s, just, she’s - not even sure what unfinished business is lurking in the back of her mind and making it feel impossible. Maybe in a few candlemarks her emotions will start to really believe that the worst is over and she’ll abruptly be desperate for her bed.)

Khayr should include…Nuvia, then, she’s just coming on to replace Katteen and should be here all night.

 

Shavri is really curious to find out if she can see what the spell does with Healing-Sight. It would be incredibly useful if they could invent a painblocking-like technique but for nausea; she was never able to figure it out by watching patients with Remove Sicknesses in effect.

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He reminds them that it will last only as long as he can concentrate, and he can do that for a long time including through substantial distractions but not with perfect reliability and not if he judges that whatever has distracted him in fact means he needs to drop concentration and react to something. He will sit over there, crosslegged with dismayingly good posture, and close his eyes and cast from his angel symbol and -

- there's a low warm humming noise that vibrates up through the floor, and the four patients and also Nuvia are abruptly less nauseated and less tired. Not not those things, but so much less.

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Well, Nuvia wasn’t nauseated to begin with, but everyone is tired, it’s been days since the Nap Stack she made in into. That’s…very nice.

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Oh that is better. 

Stef requests paper (“demands” might be more accurate). He might actually be able to get a start on the song draft, now, his hands are too sore to want to play anything and his throat is way too sore to feel like singing, but he can play bits in his head and get some notes down.

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Ohhhhhhhhh. It’s not as good at, you know, not being sick anymore, but being less nauseous is going to free up a lot of attentional capacity, and Seldan no longer feels too tired for Mindspeech. He’ll start trying to retrieve his mental notes of who he’d been vaguely planning to bother next.

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Did they in fact ever get an exact list of who has how many channels? Joshel has been bothering her about authorizing a bunch of the lower-circle clerics to be Gated to the border, but - in an abundance of caution - she would like a total of six channels available here to get their patients through the night.

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The first-circle Shelynite whose brother does not really want her to go to the border has four, and Luminary Khayr who is staying overnight has three but used one before being hired and can't use the remainder without interrupting the drone, so they can keep the first-circle Abadaran who has two here.

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Great! Gemma is feeling adequately reassured that even if they've massively misjudged something about how long Restoration will continue helping for, or a junior Healer manages to somehow screw up really badly, there will still absolutely definitely be no repeats of this morning. 

...Who has Stabilize prepared. She should check that. Stabilize is pretty much the favorite spell of everyone at the House of Healing now, because of the part where it's unlimited – they're not used to Healing being limited on anything other than fatigue, which in an emergency you can push through quite far – but it was really really bad this morning that the only person available to cast it was, himself, dying, it was honestly a completely unreasonable thing to ask of Vanyel and probably a lot of why he's having such a breakdown now is because the fucking Tayledras stimulant Shavri gave him is wearing of, and probably Blai can handle it now and will not be the person most likely to have problems tonight but it was REALLY A VERY BAD MORNING and Gemma would at least like to know her options if it comes up. 

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Well, Blai has it and should be able to cast it as needed.

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(The Shelynite has it too.)

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But what if they're wrong that the improvement from a Restoration will stick until tomorrow and Blai crashes a candlemark before dawn when they've already gone through all the Remove Diseases that will almost certainly not happen, Shavri thought it had actually reversed all of the Lesser Restoration-able damage and some of the stickier damage to Endurance specifically, and if Shavri is wrong - Shavri won't be wrong - they still have the Heal as a backup. Gemma genuinely would like to keep it as an emergency backup until, like, five minutes before dawn, Randi can show up for it then if it's gone unused.

- ah okay great someone else has it and Blai can sleep. Which is what he should be doing tonight, not being on call for healing. 

 

...Somewhat grudgingly, Gemma will concede that Joshel is now free to coordinate with everyone other than Luminary Khayr and the designated two first-circle clerics on what they're doing on the Iftel border tonight. 

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Perfect! 

 

If Joshel's notes are correct, he should be getting: Raad, the two fifth-circle Abadarans, the fifth-circle Nethysian, the third-circle Abadaran, six out of eight of the second circle or lower clerics including the Pharasmin one, and...are the wizard and sword guy coming? 

Here is his map of the Valdemaran side of the border. These six...he would say "towns" but they aren't really, anymore, they're refugee camps some distance out from where a border town used to be and isn't – have all reported in via the circuit Heralds that they have enough injured people to fill a channel-radius-sized barn. None of those injuries are life-threatening tonight, it's been ten days, the really bad injuries were either healed in the first day or two or didn't make it, but there's a critical shortage of Gifted Healers, or even un-Gifted trained assistants, and an awful lot of those people will be permanently disabled or disfigured unless they get a channel at some point. 

Almost certainly a huge number of the people with not-immediately-life-threatening horrible burns have by now contracted horrible infections that will kill them eventually, but Remove Disease is so bizarrely limited relative to injury-healing, and hopefully a lot of those people will recover just fine with rest and a bit of attention from a Healer once the horrible-burns part is fixed. There's of course also a significant shortage of food, safe drinking water, and shelter from the elements.

Joshel has enough mages from their Leareth-organization allies to do a Gate to each of the refugee camps affected, if they have at least six channels available from this group. He...is not entirely sure what else makes the most sense here? He's not even sure what spells exist at first circle, let alone what kinds of spells more powerful clerics (or wizards!) would have available. He would very much value their advice. 

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A cleric is necessary to cast Gentle Repose with the wand if they want to use up the wand today, but the clerics who are on channeling at the patients in Haven duty can do that in between channels.

The sword guy is Khayr's party member but he's willing to be deployed elsewhere while Khayr is doing the boring thing. The wizard is sticking to his fifth-circle Abadaran (the male one) even if they don't need him for anything but, like, a fifth circle wizard is often a useful thing to have, and during downtime (which is what he and his cleric were having when they got hired suddenly) he often leaves lots of slots open so he can do midday prep for whatever. Nobody has Create Food prepared today - it doesn't normally make sense in a city. There's a couple Endure Elements to spare, and the Pharasmin has a Read Weather if they want that. Somebody's got a Communal Ant Haul? The Nethysian has a Neutralize Poison. Raad has a Speak with Soul, though that's language-dependent so he'd need the wizard to cast Tongues on him if they want to Speak with any local Souls.

These eleven clerics have way more than six channels between them, come on.

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What information exactly does Read Weather give them? They are having quite a lot of weather-related problems and the extra Gates will cause more of them! They have mages on loan to do weather-working about it, but they don't have a good solution for the fact that Iftel, previously, was surrounded by a giant magical barrier which was apparently giving them a lovely temperature climate completely at odds with their northern latitude. And does not have the barrier anymore. Because it exploded and killed Leareth. 

They can absolutely find people who would be more effective with an Endure Elements, and a lot more tomorrow if they have spell slots going spare. It's spectacularly unpleasant for the Heralds riding up and down the border acting as Mindspeech relays to be out in this weather, a lot of them are literally sixteen and probably not making wise choices at all times about how long they spend out in the elements, and channels fix frostbite if they come back for them right away but someone is inevitably going to get pneumonia at some point if they keep this up. 

They could probably make good use of a Communal Ant Haul to get way more supplies from Haven through a Gate than would otherwise be doable, assuming he's intuiting correctly what the spell does from the Mindspeech-concept and it'll let people carry absurd quantities of weight while moving at a normal speed; he's been able to use his floating disk for it every day but only goes so far. 

He can't specifically think of a high value use for a Neutralize Poison, or anyone's soul who they need to– actually, would that let them talk to Leareth or Nayoki's soul? Joshel has been getting the impression that Mage-commander Ovada is rather desperate to have someone to check his decisions with. Nayoki might be better if they can only do one of them, she survived long enough that she's read in on the situation. 

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Read Weather only works on predicting the nonmagical weather, but if the thing causing the weather is an abrupt cessation of magic it... might work fine? It has to be cast on location.

They can prep lots of Endures tomorrow without trading off against much else since it's first circle but only have a few spare today (some were already sold, it's popular in Sothis).

He has the right idea about Ant Haul, yes.

There is no reason Raad is aware of why it would prevent talking to Nayoki's or Leareth's soul.

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They cannot really cast Read Weather in a location not affected by magic, since the only way to go to any locations in a timely manner is by Gate. Currently everyone is operating on the assumption that there might be a surprise blizzard in their location at any moment and if Read Weather doesn't predict weather-affected-by-magic they won't be able to stop doing that, but they might as well use it in Sumpost late tonight or something and then calibrate how thrown-off it is by Gates if the Gates happened before it was cast and not after. 

 

:And if we're using Speak with Soul to talk to Nayoki, that should be here before we leave, she died in the House of Healing. So did Leareth, come to think of it, if Mage-commander Ovada prefers– hmm, er, actually that's a maybe? It was confusing, I - have any of you ever seen someone who was by some indication not-dead but wasn't targetable by healing spells? One of our people has Mindhealing and it comes with Sight that lets you see - if there's a person's mind there - and she claims she still saw something there for a solid minute after we retrieved him. I don't know if that counts as him dying here or not, from the point of view of your magic, though I was told that we think grabbing him prevented Vkandis from getting his soul, which I think implies his soul was at least briefly here?: 

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"I'm not sure how that would count, but I'm willing to try whichever you'd like."

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...He'll Mindspeak Mage-commander Ovada directly to find out which one he would find more useful to speak to. 

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It is in fact compelling that Nayoki definitely knew what was going on when she died! Also, she's of course terrifying in her own right, but she's not quite as terrifying as Leareth. 

He comes over to join them. :How does the spell - work? How - oriented - is the person being spoken with, generally? ...Velgarth doesn't have afterlives, we have reason to believe that dead souls are not normally having experiences while dead. Select Artigas and his Companion reported that the Shadow-Lover, which is some kind of specialized-for-interacting-with-mortals avatar of a god we know less about, did seem to be trying to have conversations with Leareth's soul and may have intended to continuing doing so afterward, but also that Leareth's soul did not appear to remember most of his life, let alone all the recent events, and was totally unable to form any new memories of their interactions. If Nayoki is in a similar state, then it's going to be a very confusing conversation for, well, probably everyone but especially her.: 

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"...I have no idea if the spell will work at all if she's not currently in the River of Souls nor a proper afterlife experiencing the passage of time. It's possible the spell itself is supportive - people as a rule do not remember their time in the River and I can speak with a soul still in it - but that might just be some more conventional form of amnesia affecting River journeys. It's up to you if you'd rather have it than a marginal Mass Cure Moderate Wounds."

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...How badly does Joshel want a marginal Mass Cure Moderate Wounds for the border? 

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Honestly not very badly! They have so many channels! They're going to have trouble sorting out the logistics to even use all of those channels before dawn! A lot of them are weaker than a Cure Moderate would be, if he's recalling correctly, but as far as they can tell that matters very little for anyone native to Velgarth. 

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Then Ovada, for his part, is willing to take the risk that it won't work and try for Nayoki.

:How does it work to talk to her?: he thinks to clarify. :Is it only you who can, or will I be able to see and hear her?: 

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"Only me, which is why I'll need a Tongues to do it from the wizard - what is your name -"

"Rushd."

"From our wizard Rushd here. Of course if you'd like to verify that I'm relaying honestly you can do that by local truth magic or by getting a Truthtelling casting from any of the Abadarans."

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Asking Herald Joshel for a Truth Spell to confirm whether the cleric is being honest about this one specific conversation feels like precisely the wrong level of paranoia to be applying here. If Blai's information is roughly accurate, then an Abadaran cleric is not remotely likely to lie about what Nayoki said in a soul conversation. If they're not trusting Blai's information, then there are an awful lot of other things they should be paranoid about! The Heralds have in fact clearly decided to act on the basis that their other-world allies are trustworthy. Anyway, it's not like it would be that easy for them to, what, manipulate him into making decisions that serve their interests rather than being best for the organization? Nayoki isn't in a position to authorize new orders, he's hoping she'll have ideas but anything she brings up will be very thoroughly discussed before they would act on it. 

 

...Raad is apparently not going to be offended if they want to Truth Spell him about it, so, like, why not. :We can have Joshel confirm that with the Heralds' Truth Spell. Though I was mainly thinking about - planning what we want to ask her, so I can write you a script for which gaps we need to fill in for her.: 

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"A sensible approach."

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Joshel's impression is indeed that the Abadarans will not be offended by Truth Spells checks and he doesn't mind providing one even if it feels mildly silly. 

:Nayoki died on the...second? day? I want to say?: 
Joshel had already at that point been freed from his horrible entire day of casting Virtue nonstop in order to go to the border and...well, do things that were objectively also very unpleasant but at least they felt less futile. ...Huh. He supposes it wasn't, actually, not in the end. Four of five made it, and who knows, maybe that entire horrible day made a real difference. It certainly sounds like it was - very close, whether everyone made it or not. :- Anyway, I think that was right after the initial guess of a two-week timeline? So the update is that we got it in, what, eight days, and everyone else made it, and we're getting her and Leareth tomorrow?: 

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:And I'll run my plan by her - that we want her first and Healer Sera, who's know him the longest...: 

A few minutes later, Ovada has a list of Key Facts About The Last Eight Days for Raad to convey to Nayoki when he's cast the spell, assuming it actually works. 

- They got the Gate-routing! Brightstar was in fact instrumental and did not sabotage their work in any way.

- They got FOURTEEN entire clerics in the first Gate (!!!) and the other four who were still alive when she died are going to be fine. 

- Five - it is five, right? - of the fourteen clerics are powerful enough to cast Raise Dead at all, though not all of them can get the people who died more-or-less instantly; it's been 10 days, they were getting awfully close to the time limit.

- They'll work very hard on getting Gentle Repose on everyone they can as soon as possible, and anyone they can't cover in time can be raised in Golarion, more slowly, at the same price and probably not worth trying to convey the details. 

- Yfandes is back, which also serves as proof-of-concept that Raise Dead definitely works in Velgarth. 

- The plan is to get Nayoki, Leareth, and at least one of the Healers tomorrow. The tentative plan is to get Nayoki and Sera first so they can Mindspeak at Leareth and hopefully orient him enough that he doesn't GATE OUT TO A RECORDS CACHE in the first half a second after being Raised. 

 

Questions for Nayoki, if she seems oriented enough to be up for answering them: 

- Only 5 of their own casualties died more recently than 10 days ago, but it seems plausible that the affected towns on the Valdemaran border continued to lose people for days, they were...a lot less prepared for a disaster of this scale...and some of those people, town mayors or experienced village Healers and such, might from Valdemar's perspective be worth a diamond to get back? Given that their organization won't be able to use the shorter-time-limit spells anyway once they clear their five people, is it reasonable to loan Valdemar some diamonds to allocate as they wish? 

- Adding a part 2: if it's worth it at all, should it even be a loan? It's deeply unclear when Valdemar would be able to pay it back, and it certainly seems plausible that Leareth would want to authorize just - directly allocating the diamonds toward the shared goal of "fewer people dying in refugee camps before spring" for which this would be helpful, but Ovad doesn't really feel comfortable making that call on his own. It does need to be made today, as soon as possible, so that the Heralds can scramble to find bodies that need to be tapped with a Gentle Repose. 

- Does she have any, any other advice on Raising Leareth without spooking him into Gating off somewhere! (There is, perhaps, a degree of organizational trauma about the most recent occasion of Leareth doing exactly that.) 

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It's news to Joshel that Leareth's organization is apparently considering loaning or outright gifting more diamonds to Valdemar so they can Raise the mayors of some border towns!!!! He would absolutely never have asked for that. 

....It would help. It would really, really help. He knows they've lost Healers, and Healers are among the most likely people to survive a day or two until they exhausted their reserves and couldn't hold themselves together with self-Healing anymore. He's aware of three specific camps where certain deaths left a leadership vacuum that they're worried will cause problems with maintaining law and order under truly spectacularly awful circumstances. 

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Cicerone writes all this down in his own language (Tongues won't make him read Valdemaran), confirms it, and then goes to the place of Nayoki's death to cast the spell.

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Nayoki is really pretty sure that she died. 

She was expecting to be resurrected! That wouldn't be surprising!

 

She...thinks that she's still dead? Which makes it very confusing that something seems to be happening? 

Where - is she. 

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"Hello, Nayoki, this is Cicerone Raad, a cleric of Abadar from Golarion. We expect to be able to Raise you tomorrow. Can you understand me?"

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They can - she didn't think they could - 

 

- there's a hazy...something...it feels like not exactly a memory but - something that happened. Not this. Before. It's effortful to tug at it, in a way that isn't true of remembering that she died or that, at the time that she died, they were working on a Gate-routing to Golarion. 

 

"...I understand you," she says, unsure until she tries it whether forming an intention to speak will even work. "Where am I?" 

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"You may be in the remit of the Shadow-Lover; but we were able to successfully Raise another Velgarth native today, so the spell does not fail automatically in such cases. Is there anything else you need to know before I read off the remarks Ovada prepared for me to relay?"

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She...knew that, she thinks. How did she - did they know that Leareth - okay, her memories from before her death are not, in fact, perfectly clear, though it's entirely possible that she was just that foggy. But there's the strange not-memory, that is unclear in a completely different way, what does she - 

 

- it takes a moment to pinpoint who Ovada is but, yeah, she remembers him. Not...who she would have picked to leave in charge? Did she sign off on it? Gods, she doesn't remember, she - how many people did they lose, she's not sure she knew that either before she died though maybe it just failed to register because she was dying of progressive damage and very very tired - 

Focus. "No." No point asking questions until she's heard what he thinks she should know. 

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Raad sets about reading everything on his piece of paper, translating as closely as Tongues allows.

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That's all...very good news, she thinks, though it's hard to trust her sense of whether or not it's better news than she expected. ...It's definitely better than she expected that anyone survived even eight days, let alone everyone but her. Shavri must have pulled out all the stops, getting them a little past the one-week mark. She - thinks she made the right call, even leaving aside the selfish consideration that being alive was really unpleasant. 

Fourteen clerics. That feels - too abstract to engage with, from wherever she is and whatever this state is, but - they're going to Raise her. Tomorrow. And Leareth. 

 

...That was a good idea and a good question, though. She thinks she's pleased although it isn't very much like being pleased while alive. 

"Leareth will authorize sharing our diamond supply with Valdemar," she says. "As long as it does not delay Raising any of our key personnel but it sounds like it will not. Leave it to him to figure out balancing the favors exchanged, if their King is concerned about that." She dredges at fragmentary memory. "Avirot, Nosstha, Rameera, Talia, Shamal, those are the highest priorities after myself and Leareth. Please do not bring us back without immediate plans to heal the damage, we would be useless in that state," not to mention it was horrible to experience. 

What else...no, there is something important, something...what was she...

 

 

Leareth. 

 

Oh. Right. That. That was a thing. 

 

"You should not raise me before Leareth," she says firmly. And quickly, because sometimes Golarion spells don't last very long. "Have Vanyel there. You can Raise Sera first too, if that is not costly. ...The Shadow-Lover has been - putting us together, when They want to speak to Leareth. I have been telling him to expect resurrection, but without me there he is very disoriented, he has no memory of how he died or what happened to the alliance afterward and he assumes the worst. I am not sure the Shadow-Lover is trustworthy to - give him the ability to remember anything if real-world time passes without me there - they are really very bad at this, whatever you are doing is much better." She can think! It doesn't feel like being alive but it also doesn't feel like most of her is missing. "If I leave him alone there, I worry he would interpret a Raise Dead as hostile and fight it." 

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Raad writes this all down dutifully. "We should be able to get all three of of you in the suggested order tomorrow," he tells her. "There is another minute and a half on this spell; is there anything else you would like to say?"

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She wants to double check every single thing Ovada did in the last week but she can't say that, the poor man still has to keep doing it until tomorrow. Is there anything that might make the slightest practical difference to hear a day sooner, other than the answer to his really quite good question about Raising some of Valdemar's dead with the spells they can't use anyway? 

 

Diamonds. That has to be the priority now. Diamonds and currency to pay clerics in, whether money or - whatever else they want that Velgarth has and Golarion doesn't - that part is too hard to think about right now. 

 

"- I am not sure how many diamonds Ovada has procured at this point but if we are not already checking the markets in the Haighlei Empire we should be," she says. "It might be worth trying the other continent, we have no safe repeatable low cost way to reach it with our current magical capabilities but it is worth substantially more to Raise the dead, right, and I would expect there is some way to combine our magic and yours to make it safer or cheaper. If it is not obvious to them they can wait for Leareth, though, one day will make little difference." 

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He writes all that down. "I've got that. Is there anything else?"

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"....Thank you. For coming and helping our world." 

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"We are being handsomely paid to do so, but of course you are welcome."

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Oh right he's Abadaran. Convenient. 

"That is all until tomorrow, then." 

 

And she waits for the spell to end and tries as hard as she can to - hold onto this - though she's not sure if "trying" is the kind of thing that has any mechanism to help remember it later. But if she can manage to keep it, then it's definitely a reassuring thing she can tell Leareth. 

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Mage-commander Ovada is politely not doing any mindreading of the new very important allies they need to avoid offending at all costs, and also he thinks he literally can't read Raad; the man doesn't precisely shield against Thoughtsensing, and Leareth might be able to get through, but there's some kind of resistance that un-Gifted people don't normally have, that the lower-circle clerics have a much weaker version of. 

Anyway, he's standing here listening to Raad having half of a conversation in what he assumes is the Haighlei tongue, Ovada himself doesn't speak it at all but it would be Nayoki's native language. And then Raad writes notes in, presumably, his own language and script. Which Ovada also cannot read. 

Ovada is very patiently waiting to hear how badly he screwed up what advice and recommendations Nayoki may have for the next twelve candlemarks until they get her and Leareth back. 

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When the spell ends, Raad, still having Tongues up, reads off his notes in Ovada's native language.

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Oh wow that spell is really impressive and useful and also it's a little uncanny. He wonders vaguely how long it lasts. 

 

"...The Shadow-Lover can do that now?" He glances at Herald Joshel and concludes that he does speak Rethwellani and is not being excluded from this conversation. "I - do we know if the Shadow-Lover could always do that?" 

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"....Van let slip that he talked to Mardic and Donni - sorry, Mardic and Donni are two Heralds who died a decade ago - that one time after they both Final Striked in Highjorune? Short conversation, I don't know that he would have noticed if they...weren't all there. I'm not sure how we could possibly know if the Shadow-Lover's always made a habit of making pairs of dead souls talk to each other." 

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Every single fact Ovada has ever learned about Herald-Mage Vanyel Ashkevron's life has made him feel worse for the man. "I see. - we do have people in the Haighlei Empire," he adds to Raad. "The difficulty with reaching the other continent is that it's out of Gate-range for...pretty much anyone, really, it's several thousand miles. And I'm not sure the planar routing trick we used for Golarion would work, the researchers said it may be harder for places on the same planet because of...fewer degrees of freedom? Constrained search space?" Ovada is not a math person. 

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"Would it help if you had a lot of Lesser Restorations and you cast it on the mage continuously while they were getting the Gate up, so they didn't pass out from backlash?" Not that that's cheap but you could surely buy an absurd number of Lesser Restorations for the going price of a Golarion diamond, so it might still be cheaper overall, if the other continent has the same situation where diamonds are mostly just pretty luxury goods with the occasional use case for mage-artifacts that need to be weirdly durable and for some reason can't just be shielded. 

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"Lesser Restoration trades off against Gentle Repose," Raad mentions. "Rushd, the wizard, probably knows Teleport, though it's risky without a look at the place and another continent is likely out of his range."

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"Right, so we can't really experiment until we've gotten everyone we're going to with Gentle Repose. ...Is there a version of Virtue that does the thing Lesser Restoration helps with - er, specifically the one Blai calls Endurance - instead of the thing channels help with?"

Joshel has recently had WAY TOO MUCH OPPORTUNITY to be stuck listening to Shavri free-associate about what Golarion magic is doing according to Healing-Sight, and he definitely remembers her musing that Virtue-for-Endurance might delay backlash by a significant margin. 

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"There's Bear's Endurance, which gives someone an improvement in that ability for minutes. It's also second circle."

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Shrug. "Maybe we can experiment with that once we've done all the L– Gentle Repose castings." He almost mangled it into "Lesser Repose" which would have sounded so silly. Why do all the good spells have to come in limited-number slots! 

 

...Anyway it seems like that's all for the Speak with Soul and they can let Ovada get back to whatever he was doing before this, and figure out what if anything still needs to happen in Haven before they relocate to the border? 

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Absolutely. Do they have perhaps a large slate so they can get everybody's slot numbers written down in one central place and assign them before dawn tomorrow? Should someone be running around with the wand right now?

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Oh maybe they still need Ovada since a bunch of his people should get tapped with the wand right now and apparently that requires a Gate.

And they can apparently save some wand taps for– Joshel is going to have to just grit his teeth and go have the awkward conversation where he asks Ovada how many diamonds they are willing to just give?? Valdemar?? as presents or something???, so he can add it to the number that they can scrounge up independently and start figuring out exactly how hard they need to filter their list of possible useful-border-locals to Raise, and in the meantime one of the filters needs to be knowing where their body is and that it's intact enough to count - presumably injuries that a Cure would get are allowed and the problem is, like, entire missing limbs? - and figuring out either how to get all of them to a central location or Gate someone multiple stops with the wand and they need to do that tonight

 

It takes another half-candlemark to have confirmation that Ovada is authorizing giving them six diamonds (Nayoki apparently did not provide an exact number and the poor man looked very overwhelmed about deciding and Joshel found himself abruptly feeling more sympathy than self-consciousness).

Between various wealthy nobles with a fondness for spending their wealth on jewelry, and who owe enough favors to the King or the Heralds or otherwise have enough of a personal stake that they can be reasonably be expected to just hand them over For The Good of The Kingdom which Joshel is fairly sure is very un-Abadaran but also he is so fully aware that they literally cannot afford to pay in gold, they still owe like three mercenary companies the early cancellation penalty and he has no idea how they're going to scrape it together...

...he can get another six. So Valdemar would like twelve wand-taps in reserve for later tonight, please. And now Joshel had better go do a lot of very frantic Mindspeech-relay coordination to figure out who they're tapping before it's tomorrow and too late, and he's pretty sure they will have that list and a plan to get to them in plenty of time but he's still feeling very self-conscious that the highly senior cleric of Abadar is going to be judging him for being so unprepared.

He's abusing Guidance very hard and MAYBE that will EVENTUALLY become his main association with it, the making himself slightly better at things, and not being ordered to sit in a room trying and failing to focus on his actual job while being harassed by math researchers at random intervals averaging every three minutes or so. 

 

 

Valdemar in fact has everything lined up for people to be tapped with the wand for later Raising well before it's already tomorrow and therefore too late. 

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Shavri does, eventually, leave to get some sleep.

 

She sleeps badly. She's spending way too much time ruminating on this morning and it feels like there's nowhere to go with it and in any other situation it would be obvious that she needs to talk it over someone but who, exactly, it feels like every single person she can think of is either too distant from the situation to understand the context and why she feels so spectacularly awful about - mostly Blai, not that she feels amazing about how she handled the whole situation - or they're too involved. She can't ask Seldan about it, Van is...not really okay yet...and all of the Healers who were there are just as exhausted as she is and the last thing they need is her stupid feelings. 

 

...But nobody dies overnight, no one deteriorates faster than expected, the less-nausea effect lasts for a good long time, and most of the patients get some actual food down and then some sleep. (Shavri hears about this because she half-wakes in bed with Randi four times and Mindspeaks Nuvia an entire four times to check that nobody is dying, and Nuvia very patiently tells her each time that everyone is fine.) 

 

She's back a candlemark before dawn, because she might as well be, she wasn't asleep anyway. She paces unhappily. She resists the urge to wake Blai and apologize, because - it's not even for him, Seldan assured her that he barely remembers it and definitely isn't holding a grudge, it's for her and that's just being selfish and she absolutely cannot be selfish at him, of all people, now of all times. 

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Songbird Aziza is an early bird, so she sleeps first while the other guy is up on channel duty and gets up in the wee hours to hang out in the sickroom, working on her embroidery and trying not to chat with her brother loudly enough to bother anyone.

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She should probably try to be pleasant and welcoming to all these people who came to another world on extremely short notice to help them, but it feels like sometime in the last ten days Shavri forgot how that…works. What if she broke her talking-to-people ability and now the only way she remembers how to interact with other humans is to sound like an Asmodean seminary instructor gods she regrets having read Blai’s mind so much. Not even because it’s one of the parts she feels - morally conflicted - about, in general, it’s incredibly helpful for assessing confused delirious people and she’s used it that way before, just - it lands differently, the connotation is different when Cheliax used mindreading for loyalty tests. And then there’s the part where it’s - in her head, now, and she doesn’t want it there but she can’t un-know it.

She attempts what has to be the most unconvincing smile in the world at the cleric of - Shelyn, she thinks? yes, that’s recognizably the same bird as Van’s - and then sits down to get a Sight-assessment on Vanyel. He must have had a Remove Disease very recently, he looks fine. Nothing for her to do here. She…should really be able to find something better to do with herself than sulking like a little girl who knows she’s disappointed her parents, but it’s not coming to her.

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"Good morning," smiles the Songbird. "You look like you've had a dreadful time of it."

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It takes Shavri a moment to realize she‘s being addressed, and by then it’s too late to grab the meaning from the surface, you pretty much have to be ‘listening’ in real time to get the word-meanings without everything else.

She feels - wobbly, or something, but she looks up and makes herself meet the woman’s eyes. She doesn’t try to force a smile again, it’s probably even more ghastly than her face at rest.

:Sorry, if you say that again I can pick it up without just reading your entire mind: which Shavri feels particularly weird about now. For reasons. Even though the contents of this nice cleric’s mind would probably be perfectly pleasant and soothing. :I don’t speak your language, have to cheat. I’m Shavri by the way.:

The downside of Mindspeech is that it’s even harder to hide the overtones of…whatever mood or feeling she is, right now, she doesn’t have a name for it…than it is to keep it off her face.

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"I didn't expect you to; I just was pretty sure you were one of the telepaths. I said, you look like you've had a dreadful time of it."

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What are you even supposed to say to that.

 

:...I wouldn't have said I was the one who had the dreadful time here: Shavri says, slowly and sort of blankly. :I - have you ever had a plan and it, it worked, but you still felt like you must have made several different terrible errors of judgement to end up where you did?: 

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"I can't say that I have. Do you want to talk about it?"

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She seems to have started talking about it half without meaning to so...maybe? Apparently?

:I guess so. If you - if you really don't mind.: A bitter half-chuckle. :I feel slightly insane right now.: And she also doesn't have the slightest idea where or how to start. 

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"I don't mind at all. Anyone would be fragile after this much desperate work."

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Fragile. That's a good word for it, Shavri thinks. The wobbliness, the...feeling like there's something hollow in the center of her, something she misplaced at some point in the last ten days, something that was necessary for pulling herself back together afterward. 

:It was - yesterday? maybe? no, that's not right, it was two nights ago - that I thought, I didn't want to keep doing this to them - trying to keep them alive in case we somehow got the Gate in time - we didn't think we were going to. Two nights ago they said it'd be four days - we wouldn't have made it four days, you saw - and it just, it wasn't worth it? To keep putting them through all that misery for a tiny chance of a miracle. So I–: She shrugs, helplessly. :I don't normally pray. We - your god seems lovely, a lot of the Golarion gods seem lovely, but ours aren't - Good - I don't know what They are. But the Shadow-Lover's god seemed to be sort of vaguely in some dubious way trying to be helpful, so I - prayed - I said, if You're steering to make it work in time, if You're going to pull out a miracle for us, I need to know, that it's going to be worth it, that I'm not just...torturing people for a one in a hundred chance of saving four diamonds, you know?: 

She has no idea if any of that is making sense, so far. She skipped a lot of the leadup and she has no idea if this woman - if she introduced herself Shavri has completely forgotten her name - has actually gotten read in on the broader situation. It felt impossibly hard to go any further back and fill that in. 

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The Songbird nods, wide-eyed. "Your kind of healing asks so much of you. More time and more involvement."

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...That's really true, isn't. It's a difference Shavri hadn't fully thought through. She's probably spent three-quarters of the...two hundred and forty? candlemarks in the last ten days, in this goddamned room. That's - Shavri can definitely do mental math right now - whatever. 

:I couldn't really afford to have feelings about it at the time: she says. :I mean - Leareth died, after everyone threw everything they had at getting him out - and I would have really appreciated a chance to have some feelings about that at the time, you know? But all I remember thinking is, what a waste of a Cure spell. Really wished later that night that we still had it.: Shrug. :And then - ten days of that - trying to get by to another dawn - I guess the second day was good, we had all these channels, but then of course we couldn't justify keeping anyone if we didn't really truly need them, with Iftel - so Karis and Joshel...:

Shrug. :I mostly can't think of anything I'd do differently. Try Stabilize on Leareth first, maybe, but I don't know if it not working actually means nothing would work and - it just happened really fast - I thought in the middle a few times that we should have kept our eye on the bigger picture, allocated a few more spells to helping the research go faster and not just healing - could've done a Minor Prophecy on Brightstar - but I don't know. I kind of feel like the Shadow-Lover's god was angling for - the cheapest possible intervention, and that means that whatever we did it would've been just barely in time?: 

Another shrug. She's really not managing to be very coherent, is she. :I was just - the whole time, I had to do the most ruthless triage. And, I mean, it worked. We made it, with nothing to spare. Letting Nayoki go on the second day was the right call, it was her idea, she was the only person who wouldn't take someone else they were soulbonded to with them, and - we had just, just barely, enough to make it - it was so fucking close I still can't believe the timing - Blai said Iomedae was the god of triage and She's broke so She couldn't have - and I don't even want - but if She could've just fucking given me Stabilize then I wouldn't have had to ask Van, he's so devastated about it and it's completely predictable and my fault, it was the stupidest plan, I still can't believe I - you know, having just seen abundant evidence of why giving people with blood-poisoning a terrifyingly strong stimulant is a really, really bad plan, to be like 'oh I know, I will fix the outcome of my first bad plan by doing the exact same thing again to someone else who's dying slightly more slowly - and I still. can't. think. of what else I should have done instead...: 

She's not crying. That might also be one of the things that got broken, Shavri thinks dully. 

:Stef's happy about it: she adds, tonelessly. :Makes Luminary Khayr sound incredibly heroic in the song he's going to write about it. I just - I cannot describe how angry I'm going to be if we somehow learn that the Shadow-Lover's god steered for exactly this to happen because a better fucking song makes the interworld contact go just that little bit more smoothly - it'd be exactly like Them to do that and not even, not even realize, that it hurt people, because They can't see that...: 

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Nod nod. "Even if someone blunders into you by complete accident it can still hurt you terribly. Even if it's an accident and you wind up getting along great with them afterward you could wind up with a broken nose and someone should see that, even if it's not them."

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The analogy being drawn to the...Shadow-Lover's god, she assumes? ...is such an absurd one that Shavri starts laughing - silently, she's not going to be so gauche as to wake any sleeping patients with it - and there are maybe a couple of tears in her eyes. 

 

...There's still the - other part. And she really, really does want to talk about it. Maybe she needs to talk about it or she's going to just be - stuck like this, half insane. And it's not like she learned this particular set of facts about Blai's history in a context where he was her patient, that would make it a lot more unambiguously not okay to tell someone - though she would tell a fellow Healer, and the Shelynite cleric isn't not that...? 

:Kinda want to tell you something but it's - sort of personal?: she sends. :For one of the patients. It's - related to why I'm so bothered about this, but - I don't feel right turning it into gossip - can you keep it to yourself? It really– it's not especially relevant in the present, I'm pretty sure of that now.: 

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"I can keep it quiet. My brother'll let me be alone with you in another room, if you want, since you're a woman."

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:What, are you no–: Shavri. Shavri. None of your goddamned business. :I - okay. I'd like that. I - it really doesn't seem like they're about to need a channel in here on three seconds' notice.: To Nuvia, :- hey, we're slipping out for a moment. Mindspeak me if you need us.: 

    (Nuvia has no objections and if anything seems faintly relieved about something.) 

There's a room next door with no one in it, and a couple of cots that can serve as chairs. Shavri sits. She's hesitating again, now.

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"I'm Songbird Aziza, I don't know if anyone introduced us all," the Songbird adds.

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:- Probably at some point when I was completely failing to pay attention.: Shavri manages a little smile, closer to a real one this time. :I'm glad to meet you, Songbird Aziza.: 

 

She wrings her hands in her lap. :...Select Blai is Chelish. Before - very recently, I think? I’m not sure on the timeline of all the things that happened with the archmages and Cheliax - but before that happened he was a cleric of Asmodeus.:

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Great big eyes. "Oh wow. That is an enormous victory for Good and I am so glad Iomedae was able to catch him."

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Shavri isn’t sure what response she was expecting but it wasn’t that, and she’s -

 

:Yes. Absolutely. And we were so, so lucky -

 

- can I hug you? Is that all right? I - just - I don’t know why that was the thing but I think this is the first positive emotion I’ve had in ten days and it’s wanting to hug you.:

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"Of course," says Aziza, flinging her arms open.

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Hug!

 

 

Wow. Shavri had perhaps very very badly been needing that. (It’s not that she hasn’t had any hugs in ten days, but somehow the hugs from Randi and occasionally Jisa are just not quite the same thing.)

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Songbird Aziza is great at hugs.

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So so good at hugs.

 

Shavri doesn’t pull back from the hug - she is maybe not going to do that on her own initiative for a while - but she does eventually go on.

:So you know how sometimes when people are very sick with a fever, they get confused about where they are or what year it is, that sort of thing? Well. Blai gets confused about who his god is.:

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"- oh no, did anything come of that -"

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:I, what– Shit. You know, it had somehow at no point during this entire saga occurred to me that a possible outcome of this was Asmodeus paying attention to us! ...I don't think so? I haven't noticed anything and - he really wasn't very coherent - we did conclusively determine that casting spells from Iomedae works just fine if you're under the impression that you're currently a cleric of Asmodeus. I was mostly able to time the Remove Diseases and such so he was sort of vaguely oriented at dawn, but this morning - I didn't want to take the risk with praying for spells even if it would be kind of fascinating to know if that even works - and we really, really needed them - thus the terrible idea stimulant plan. Which I would say backfired horribly except I think by some insane coincidence of perfect timing I got away with it.: 

She shivers slightly. 

:No, it wasn't - the awful part is just. That apparently when I'm in - triage mode - I am reminiscent of Asmodean seminary instructors! I really, really did not need to know that! ...and the worst part is, in the moment I was almost grateful that was a thing - I think I bought us most of a candlemark keeping him bloody breathing on his own by hurting him until he woke up and then yelling at him in Mindspeech, it was - motivating - and I was just, I'll take anything I can get if it buys me fifteen more minutes for the Gate - I don't think anyone else I know could've survived what he did. I feel like I owe him an apology but he barely remembers it and it'd be - awkward and weird - he's Chelish, he would just be bemused and maybe a bit offended that I thought his feelings about anything should matter at all next to tactical goals...: 

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"I've never actually met a Chelish person. They haven't been liberated for long and not many got out. So you knowing him is definitely better than me knowing stereotypes. What do you think he needs?"

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What a good question that was somehow not quite the one Shavri was trying to ask herself at any point this afternoon!

 

:...A Breath of Life scroll in case anything happens to his Companion, that was definitely weighing on him, it would mean a lot if we made that happen sooner though I really can't blame Joshel for not having it at top of mind, I'd forgotten until just now. Having the progressive damage problem actually fixed, obviously, I'm kind of still mad we got all this backup, I wouldn't have dared to hope that fourteen of you would come on such short notice, and it still couldn't be actually fixed right away.: Shrug. :...I think he'll be all right? I think this isn't nearly the worst thing he's been through. And it's really good that he has Seldan, this would have been impossible without that and it's, just - it's good. But, honestly, I think I'm more messed up over how this m–: no it wasn't this morning, she's slept since then, hasn't she?, :-how yesterday went than he is, I feel so stupid saying it like that but...: 

Shrug. :I could stand to apologize to Seldan, probably, he had to watch it and he does remember it all and I bet he would appreciate it and not just find it mortifying, but - I'm half expecting him to say something like 'well maybe if you'd tried a bit harder he wouldn't have had the chance to briefly die', that was - well. It really scared him, obviously.:

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"Cicerone Raad was very efficient about getting us all rounded up. I think we're all grateful to be able to help but it'll feel that little bit realer when the stronger clerics get that mystery spell to fix them for good. It does sound so important that he has Seldan; I think going by stereotypes I'd be worried that a Chelish person wouldn't have friends at all, let alone ones on the planet they just got stranded on."

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:...Mm, there's definitely - a lot of us feel warmly toward him and invested in him coming out of this alright, obviously, he's just - he's done so many things for us that he didn't in any way need to do, and he's also just a perfectly pleasant person who gets along with everyone fine. But it doesn't - I don't know how to...do the friendship thing? with him? It usually takes two people to be friends with each other? And - especially now, I feel like I'm going to spend the next few months having random intrusive thoughts of 'remember that time you were trying to keep him conscious so he wouldn't stop breathing and he was thinking how it was very merciful of you not to break all the joints in his body' and I have no idea how to be - normal - about that, you know?: 

It's still such a good hug. Shavri is finally starting to feel like maybe she's been clinging to this person she just met for long enough that it's weird, but she can't bring herself to stop. 

:- Maybe Van can befriend him. He's good at that when he's not having an awful time like recently. He managed to befriend Leareth and from what I've heard that man is remarkably - reminiscent of some of Blai's Chelishness - despite not even being from the same world.: 

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"...is Leareth okay? Apart from being dead for the next few hours, I mean."

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That...is also a pretty good question...that Shavri had not even close to considered. In fact, her first knee-jerk response is mostly "I have no idea but that sounds like his problem?"

 

:...Not sure?: she temporizes. :He's two thousand years old, he's had a lot of practice at - landing on his feet, I guess - but it was a pretty stressful series of events, and I guess this is the first time our world's gods successfully wrecked his immortality contingency and then exploded an entire country to kill him in hopes it'd be permanent this time. ...Uh, if you'd like the entire explanation of Leareth as a person, I'm happy to fill you in: it feels much less like a private personal matter than Blai's history, for some reason, :but it might take a while and we should maybe do it back in the room.: 

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"I just meant because - Chelish people aren't like that because of how okay they are, generally, not even just specific to this month." She will let Shavri go and go back to the sickroom.

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:Mm. ...Thank you for the hug. I needed it.: 

And they go back. (No one seems to have deteriorated all that much! Yay!) 

 

Shavri is trying to poke at what, exactly, she found reminiscent. It's not like they've ever actually met and had a conversation, it's all through Vanyel. 

:...I think it's only some parts that remind me of Blai, not everything: she muses. :According to Van he definitely has the thing where he's really hard to read, and - at least a lot of the not treating his own emotions as very important unless they're a constraint, in which case he handles that so he can get back to work? ...That's interpretation on my side, I don't think Vanyel's ever seen him upset except very briefly when they got the Minor Prophecy of Brightstar wrecking his immortality. I do get the impression he mostly doesn't have friends, and he sounds very - I wouldn't even know how to go about doing the friendship thing.: 

Oh right and she skipped the actual Explanation Of Leareth's Deal, which is kind of relevant background. 

:He's immortal, two thousand years old, survived the Cataclysm that nearly destroyed the continent about that long ago. He's - we weren't sure for a very long time, given the whole 'wanting to invade our country' part and the fact that Vanyel did not at all think he would be able to catch Leareth out if Leareth was persuasively lying about everything - but I think we're now taking him at his word that he wants to - fix a lot of problems our world has - and he eventually concluded that our world's gods were more or less preventing him from making progress, because They're - scared of change? I'm not sure. I have recently become a lot more sympathetic to his viewpoint on the gods being a serious problem, given Their recent behavior - I think all the Heralds are feeling that way, it's not just Iftel, there were a ton of fairly horrible manipulative interventions in the last two and a half weeks or so. ...The thing Leareth specifically wanted to do about it was conquer our kingdom in order to eventually kill ten million people for blood-magic to power creating a better god. Which is horrible, obviously, but - I think it's become rapidly obvious that he's dropping that whole plan now that we have interworld contact. ...Abadar likes him, I'm told, and expressed interest in taking his soul off the Shadow-Lover's hands.: A pause. :He's a complicated person. Clearly. But Van really cares about him. They spent twenty years speaking in a shared lucid Foresight dream for some unclear godplot reason and now they're friends.:  

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"Well, we certainly mustn't let him murder ten million people but having a friend who doesn't want him to do that is really the best way to change his mind if you ask me."

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Awwwwww. That kind of makes her feel like hugging Songbird Aziza again but they're back in front of everyone now. 

:I think the existence of another world with some gods that are a lot better than ours - admittedly some of them are a lot worse than ours too - but I think that was the most important part. But the friendship with Vanyel was...critical, really, to us not ending up at war with each other anyway.

- I hadn't thought about it before but I am actually kind of worried? About him? I think he must be - reasonably okay - most of the time, because I cannot imagine how he kept taking actions for two thousand years otherwise. But with all this - and he's coming back to the middle of an emergency with a lot of people desperate to hand responsibilities back to him.: She shakes her head slightly. :And I - my first thought when you asked that question was 'how would I know, that seems like his problem'. I think a lot of people might feel that way. And I think Vanyel might not think to ask the question, because he feels like Leareth can do anything, and while I love him dearly he can be incredibly dense sometimes.: 

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"Well, that can be my job, then, because casting all of my spells for the entire day doesn't take up much of my time."

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Some part of Shavri's mind is stumbling, with an almost indignant feeling of 'but you can't just do that!', but also: awwwwwwwwwwww. 

:Good luck: she says, smiling, and it's a genuine actual smile this time. 

It's getting pretty close to dawn. A good time to make at least the clerics, who are about to be uninterruptible for a candlemark, drink some tea first. ...And if Seldan is awake then maybe she can try apologizing, and run it by him whether she's right that Blai would find it pointless and weird or if he thinks there's something she could say that might remotely help. 

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Seldan is awake! Not, like, very. But he cracks an eye open when Shavri approaches. 

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:Hey.: She pours some fresh slightly-ginger-infused water into his trough, recently changed out for a clean one. :Drink up. ...By the way, I did want to apologize for, er, being reminiscent of Blai's seminary instructors. I'm not - sorry in the sense that I think I should definitely have done something differently, and I think it was probably worth it - but I do feel badly, and I know it was miserable for both of you, and - I guess I just want you to know that I know that and I wish we'd - had a better way.: 

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Seldan's first thought is 'cute??' and his second thought is 'oh no she was really upset about it, she going to be feeling guilty for months' and the third thought was another that oh no, the first two thoughts have thoroughly ruined all of his Shavri-related revenge fantasies and he hadn't quite felt done with that, it was sort of soothing, at least to the part of him that really wants all problems to be solvable with his hooves. 

He's not bouncing it directly at Blai, but he's also not bothering to put up shields or in any way try to make this a private conversation. 

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Blai is sort of concerned that this is an accident on Seldan's part, it does not really seem like Shavri's trying to talk to Blai directly at this time??

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...She's not but Seldan thinks it's a "not trying to talk directly to Blai" in the sense that she doesn't want to force it to be an Interaction where Blai feels Expected To Respond; she's got to be perfectly aware that, like most Herald-Companion pairs, they're usually in rapport. Having an actually-private conversation with a Herald's Companion is, like, a thing? But you have to be very clear that it's what you're asking for. (Seldan would in fact be tucking it behind his shields anyway if it was, like, someone else's very personal secrets that have no relevance to Blai? He's done that some with the Companion-gossip. But, given that this concerns Blai and Seldan as a pair and no one else, he thinks this is a perfectly reasonable thing for Blai to listen in on if he wants and not do that if he doesn't want. ...He's pretty sure that Shavri is about to ask him if Blai wants a direct apology, anyway.) 

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Seldan sometimes makes very accurate predictions. (And Shavri is in fact expecting a good chance that, at the very least, this whole conversation will be eagerly repeated to Blai about three seconds after she leaves, though she is perhaps-deliberately agnostic as to whether Blai is listening right now or, like, still dozing.)

:Is there - anything you think I could and should say to Blai that would - benefit him, and not just me and my feeling bad?: 

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Not really??? If he imagines Literally Vicar Rey showing up he could concoct something useful for her to say but it'd be, like, "I have repented of my wickedness and now serve the poor soup", which doesn't really apply to Shavri???

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Yeah that’s what Seldan thought. He suspects there’s an - interpersonal smoothing-over, ruffled-feeling-soothing, friendly-acquaintanceship-repairing purpose of apologies for things you aren't necessarily repenting of but were still - bad - that doesn't really...land...for Chelish people. And that Shavri correctly intuited that giving Blai a direct face-screamy apology speech wouldn't make him feel any better and would mostly be about her. And so instead she's doing this slightly plausibly deniable thing of talking to Seldan while Blai might or might not be awake or listening. 

...Also, Seldan is not Chelish and he DOES appreciate the purely ruffled-feeling-soothing kind of apology! His feelings were very ruffled! Shavri was extremely unpleasant to his Herald in the process of, you know, convincing him not to stop breathing. Even if some small part of Seldan wishes she'd figured out some new kind of nastiness to keep Blai conscious and breathing for another minute that might have made the difference on him not being dead for an entire several seconds - 

In his own schema of - the kind of acquaintanceship that all Valdemaran Companions have with all Valdemaran Healers even apart from any additional personal friendship - Shavri does owe him an apology. 

:Apology accepted: he tells Shavri. :I was mad at the time but I'm not holding a grudge. - It's a fascinating ethical dilemma you were faced with, though! If you were interested I'd be delighted to cowrite a treatise.: 

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:- I'll think about it!: 

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Seldan is very good.

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Seldan agrees! He handled that beautifully! Shavri's ruffled feelings are also soothed now that they’ve achieved common knowledge that he isn’t holding a grudge and she won't feel quite so much need to feel like the worst person in the world and they’re back to friendly acquaintanceship terms and he did not at any moment lose his cool enough to bring up any desire to kick her in the head, which in any case he no longer has. 

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Shavri fidgets.

:I want to buy you a Breath of Life scroll: she says abruptly. :I don’t know exactly how much it would cost but I think I can afford it, if I sell my diamond jewelry before the price crashes too far in Golarion - Joshel was saying - and it’s got to be less than a Raise Dead, right -:

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Seldan is completely speechless for a moment! It’s actually very hard to do that to him!

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:It's still well over a thousand gold!:

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…Seldan can be un-speechless enough to relay this in case Shavri was very confused about how…he doesn’t even have words! how !!!!!!!!!!!????? an - apology present?? - this would be.

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Shavri actually looks faintly relieved. :I can afford that.:

Not every week, it’s a substantial fraction of what she thinks she could pull together from her personal finances, but - when have her problems ever been so easily solved with merely gold? And those jewelry gifts from years ago that she hardly ever wears? She doesn’t even spend much of her Healers’ stipend and hasn’t for…a long time…what with how she lives in the King’s suite and doesn’t need to pay for a room herself, and it’s been so many years since she even had time or the emotional energy to go shopping for Midwinter gifts - and she feels a pang now, knowing that Jisa two years ago probably was a little hurt, but Jisa now wouldn’t begrudge this at all…

:I want to: she says. :It’s such an incredible spell!: 

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:I really think we can make enough to cover it by parking in any Inner Sea city for a while and selling uses of the long distance telepathy!:

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Shavri isn't trying to pick anything up from Blai directly, maintaining the pretense that she's having a conversation with Seldan that Blai isn't required or expected to respond to directly, but Seldan can pass that along like it's his own thought. 

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:Sure, you're welcome to pay me back later! But in the meantime I won't miss it too much, and it sounds like you're expecting to be rather busy with the Constitutional Convention for a while, which might delay saving up? - Let me do this for you, at least as a loan, please? It's really such a delightful spell and it'll make me happy every time I think of it.: 

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...Well, obviously she doesn't have to give them an apology BREATH OF LIFE SCROLL but Seldan is not actually inclined to say no!! What if they end up needing it at the Constitutional Convention before they've had any free time to save up? Seldan admittedly can't think of how it would come up but it might! 

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She doesn't need to MORE THAN A THOUSAND GOLD apologize for keeping Blai BREATHING. On the other hand what IF they end up needing it at the convention. The archmages have enemies, the convention itself might be a target...

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It's a good idea! Shavri isn't wrong that the convention will delay saving up, and even if it's unlikely to be necessary, it's a lot of peace of mind for both of them, that will make it easier to focus on, you know, the actual very significant discussions and decisions happening at the convention. 

And she doesn't need to! She knows that! Seldan's point by point analysis of why she wants to do it anyway includes: 

- Instead of feeling miserable about hurting him every time she sees him or hears him mentioned or randomly thinks about him, she will instead feel smug, which is a much pleasanter emotion, in fact it's objectively one of the best emotions. 

- She's probably also feeling a lot of gratitude! Because one of the things Blai achieved by enduring all those horrible days was keeping Van and Stef alive, who are Shavri's friends, and also he saved her lifebonded's life and saved kind of a huge number of people and prevented a war and really quite a lot of things! There's a level of gratitude where just saying thank you doesn't feel like it really communicates it. 

- She probably felt really, really helpless and scared at the point when Blai was dying and has been replaying it over and over in her head. Seldan has definitely done that about situations where he did everything right given the information he could conceivably have had at the time and maybe even in hindsight he wouldn't do anything differently - if anything that can be worse, on the "feeling helpless" front - and it might bring her quite a lot of peace of mind to know that next time they won't be dependent on the miracle of a 6th-circle cleric sprinting through a Gate just barely in time. 

- Sometimes people like doing extravagant nice things for people they feel warmly toward just because they can! It makes them feel good about themselves! 

 

:It's very kind of you: he tells Shavri. 

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:I think there'll be a Gate today, I'll delegate to someone to take care of it.: 

And she'd better go harass Vanyel about consuming his mandatory fluids, it's five minutes until dawn. 

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That's so many feelings, put some of those feelings back

Vanyel is now a cleric and could also benefit from a Breath of Life scroll for his two psychic bond people. Though the first time Blai cast a scroll it was pretty nervewracking because he knew he ought to be able to do it but the knowledge of how was not quite as accessibly installed in his head as his prepared spells and he's not sure he succeeded inside of a round, which is necessary with Breath of Life, so maybe Vanyel should try with some other scroll first, like if they brought any scrolls on top of the wand of Gentle Repose... in which case maybe they should tell him to prep Read Magic except they don't know there to be any such scrolls, nobody's been prioritizing keeping Blai read in because he's a patient... should Blai also be preparing Gentle Repose? And possibly Read Magic, if the scroll might arrive today, he'll want to decipher it right away - instead of Virtue, probably, the idea being that they won't need that today -

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Oh wow, yes, they have completely failed to discuss spell prep for today!

Seldan...forgot...and Shavri presumably didn't give them a list because she's not going to need to claim all of Blai's spell slots for keeping people alive. Read Magic seems great and they should not need Virtue today! Does Vanyel need it if he already has mage-sight at all times, if the spell does any interpretation then it might still be worth it? It definitely seems worth Blai preparing Gentle Repose too, today is day 11 which is the Raise Dead time limit for Raad and Khayr, and it sounded like Leareth's organization wasn't expecting to get to everyone in time so they were going to need to do the remainder bit by bit on a much longer delay with the weird cheap Resurrections in Golarion. Vanyel can't, of course, but Seldan isn't sure he remembers the existence of first circle spells to ask for other than Remove Sickness, is there anything really useful he should relay while he's poking Vanyel about Read Magic?

He's not sure what their Remove Disease status is or what those slots are trading off against, and he does feel pretty diseased, he did not in fact get either of the ones last night - how's Blai doing on that front, his was a while ago but he did immediately get a Restoration that hopefully patched some of the "constantly getting all of the diseases" problem - Stef looks like he could use one even though he also got a Restoration - 

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Blai has no idea if mage-sight substitutes for Read Magic but thinks it probably doesn't! First circle spells - depending on what they're doing once they're both Restored and up and okay, Deathwatch? Endure Elements? Summon Monster if there's more refinement to do on the gate route thing? Diagnose Disease, in case some series of things go wrong and they need to pinpoint something for the Healers because they don't have enough Removes? Command or Forbid Action? Blai no longer thinks that he himself is diseased and can prep one for Seldan and one for Stef in case the other clerics aren't on that; even if they are they're nice to have in many situations where you might be dealing with a lot of commoners who keep getting diseases even under completely normal circumstances.

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Oh Endure Elements is an excellent idea, Seldan had temporarily blanked on that one but he picked up via the Haven Companion-gossip-network that Joshel was able to use all of the ones available yesterday for the Heralds riding up and down between the refugee camps on the wreckage of the border. Would Van get an Endure Elements that doesn't last as long as Blai's, or does it not work like that? 

They will definitely be able to usefully soak up an arbitrary number of Remove Diseases even if any individual specific case is less time-sensitive than a lot of other things (Seldan and Stef will both do a lot better once the underlying problem is fixed, he thinks, they're not going to die of being diseased today regardless, he just doesn't like it) – the refugee camp conditions are pretty awful for diseases spreading and it sounds like a lot of people had to wait long enough for channels that their horrible burns got infected and the burns being fixed didn't by itself fix that.

...He has no idea how much it was discussed that Minor Prophecy works here and it's a bit late now to coordinate with the other higher-circle clerics, many of whom aren't even in Haven at this point, but it's second circle so it trades off against Gentle Repose and they really, really need those... 

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Endures aren't dependent like that, they just last all day regardless of caster power, it's a great spell.

One Minor Prophecy could reveal something that overturns all their plans; Blai thinks it is probably worth one marginal Repose that they might not even be banking on having available today.

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Yes good Seldan is sold. For Blai's first-circle spells, Endure Elements shouldn't go to waste and seems like a sensible pick if Blai doesn't have anything obviously better. 

(He bounces instructions to Vanyel.) 

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He would like at least one oh-shit spell (for instance, if a god tries to kill them with an avalanche or dropping them in a river, an Air Bubble would not go amiss). The rest can be Endures and a Prophecy and some Reposes and some Remove Disease though. And - it's dawn -

- and he has three freely allocable third circle slots now?? That's weird??

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Air Bubble sounds good– oh. Huh. That is weird. Very convenient but odd! ...Seldan is too diseased to think about what Blai should do with his extra slot, sorry. 

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Vanyel is ALSO realizing that he apparently has a third spot now for his first-circle spells! Why is that a thing? ...He's obviously not going to interrupt Blai praying to ask right now so he'll just...get a second Endure Elements how about that. And maybe today is the day he'll finally find out what his mystery spell does!

(Rather a lot of his prayers are going to consist of "Shelyn Shelyn look this is Yfandes she's back and she's so good!" and it's really quite a lot easier to think about music and cuddling people he loves when he's cuddling BOTH of the people he's soulbonded to.) 

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<3!!

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Blai puts the prophecy in the unexpected third circle slot so he can have a full slate of all the Gentle Reposes anyone might have been banking on him having if they were counting on that and did not expressly tell him to also prep it in third circle slots.

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(King Randale had previously arrived at the House of Healing about three and a half minutes before dawn for his Heal, really hoping that wasn't cutting it too close, he'd meant to be in more like ten minutes early but it's...early...and all the Gates last night brought in yet another snowstorm and the paths weren't all the way cleared yet.) 

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Oh there he is Shavri lost track of time and should really have, like, remembered to send someone to make sure he made it over here, the usual Guards would presumably have followed him on the trek through the grounds whenever he left his room but he clearly didn't get help, judging by the fact that he appears to be wearing yesterday's Whites with the tunic laces not fully done up. 

Shavri Mindspeaks him something fond and exasperated. :King Randale's here for the Heal: she adds to Luminary Khayr and Songbird Aziza, since this is perhaps not entirely obvious from his appearance. 

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...that's the king? That's the king. The drone cuts out as Luminary Khayr realizes that's a king, but he can bow his head and kneel and still cast Heal.

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Songbird Aziza isn't sure just kneeling will cut it when she doesn't even need her hands and gets all the way down on the floor.

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Oh no.

To be clear, this isn't the first time Randi has encountered people from other kingdoms that have more traditions of formality around monarchs, though getting down on the floor is new. He...has scripts...for how to respond to this. It's just way too early in the morning for it and it was probably a mildly stupid idea to stubbornly not call anyone for help dressing or getting himself out of the building to meet his Companion, he's out of breath and in quite a lot of pain that he's determinedly ignoring and he probably looks like some sort of ruffian and, just, oh no! Also they don't speak his language and he's not a Mindspeaker so he can't say anything anyway! 

 

...And then he's abruptly not in pain and it's so startling that he almost falls over. (At which point he realizes that he's not back to his full physical strength, not that he entirely remembers what that was even like but he's pretty sure when he was twenty-two it wasn't so hard on his knees to recover his balance. Whatever. He literally doesn't care. He's not in pain and he's not vaguely dizzy and sick for no reason and he's not foggy or gluey or desperate to be asleep and it doesn't at all feel like anything he has to do today will feel like dragging his brain uphill over sharp rocks.) 

 

After a mortifying ten seconds during which all the half-formed thoughts of what to say have completely left his hand, Randi manages to say something reasonably formal and grateful, with a faintly desperate glance at Shavri to translate it. 

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Oh that's a delightful spell! That was really beautiful to watch with Healing-Sight open! ...It's in a way spectacularly overpowered on Randi, who wasn't injured at all and who couldn't even absorb all the benefit of one of Blai's channels, it felt like there was enough there to heal, like, twenty Randis of mortal wounds. And at the same time it doesn't look like it actually made headway on the really stuck-on progressive damage – he'd still benefit from a Restoration, or maybe two of them targeting Endurance and Strength. And it didn't, she doesn't think, get rid of the underlying cause, whatever that is. But it hit a lot of things. It's a more broadly-targeted spell than anything she's seen yet from their cleric healing, it did something on a lot of pathways where she can see damage but not really address it, and it did it without drawing on Randi's strength which was always the biggest limitation on her kind of Healing. 

 

 

...Oh right there's an interpersonal thing here. Shavri smiles and translates Randi's thanks and adds a :he says you can get up now: even though Randi strictly speaking did not think to say that explicitly. 

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Aziza gets up, curtsies prettily, and tucks herself into an out of the way corner to pray to Shelyn.

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The Luminary inclines his head in acknowledgement and rises to his feet. Is there a window? He'd like to pray by a window.

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:Randi get out of our hair please: This is very much a PRIVATE Mindspeech aside to Randi alone because wow the clerics would be horrified. She's also not going to go give him a hug in front of them - she wants to, but they would probably feel really weird about it, and also she's been back in the sickroom long enough now that she no longer feels Clean. 

 

The current room does not have a window but the room where she spoke to Aziza does and Shavri can quickly show Khayr over. And then stay out of everyone's way while they pray.

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(Randi was already prepared to take the hint that he was in their way. He leaves.) 

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Window. The sun. Not his sun, but a sun -

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Usually Aziza likes to pray with some of the other Songbirds at her temple all holding hands in a circle and crooning but the other Songbird looks....... occupied, so she will just get on with it by herself.

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Blai can go back to kneeling properly! Thank goodness!!

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Oh excellent. Shavri had meant to actually tell Blai that she's no longer worried about him getting out of bed on his own, and she forgot because - well, honestly she's in no state to be here at all, obviously she's forgetting things left and right - but he just went ahead, perfect. 

 

...She should sleep. But she wants to be here to see them get fully healed. It feels like she's earned that and also she might learn something by watching with Healing-Sight. And she kind of wants to be there to see Leareth come back, that...also feels like it might fix something in her that's been broken for the last ten days. 

She'll lie down in an unused room for the candlemark of prayers, though, after extracting a promise from Gemma to definitely actually wake her when they're ready. 

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Gemma can do that. (She wishes Shavri would get some proper rest, but - she gets it, why Shavri needs to see this to through to the end.) 

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An hour later, Khayr comes back. "I have three of the new spell, and presumably there's some plan to bring someone back from the border with a fourth and the spares for the people we mean to Raise today?"

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Oh right that! :Joshel was supposed to send some people back this morning but I don't actually know when. I'll find that out. I'd mentioned to Joshel that we wanted some Restorations too, in case the spell undoes the cause of the damage but doesn't get all of the damage itself - though I did say it wasn't urgent once they're not dying anymore and I'm not sure what else is competing for fourth-circle spells.: 

Also, Gemma has what might be an incredibly stupid question: for the purpose of Raising someone, does it matter at all if their body is frozen solid? Do they need to...thaw...them first? The bodies of the dead humans were stored in an unheated shed around the back of the House of Healing, because they don't have unlimited stillroom space and keeping them somewhere cold seemed preferable for the obvious reasons, and. It turns out. They are now frozen solid. Because it's winter.

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"I... suspect... that doesn't matter... but I have never tried it, having adventured only in places that never get that cold. Which three patients should get the new spell first?"

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....Everyone except Blai. :Sorry, Blai, it's just that Van and Stef are - more fragile - and we've deprioritized Seldan pretty hard on healing a lot of times, he's worse off than you right now.: 

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(Seldan can get his diseases removed now, right?? He has not been complaining at any point but he's really extremely tired of feeling like he's being slowly eaten on the inside by very small but very hungry rats or something. And nonetheless telling the night Healer that Vanyel should get the last Remove Disease instead of him because one of "having trouble breathing" and "intense abdominal pain" is clearly worse than the other and Vanyel is so talented at getting pneumonia even in a room with continuously sterilized air.) 

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It's pretty remarkable how long you can leave a Groveborn with an infection gradually spreading in their gut and not have them die of blood-poisoning about it but yes they should handle that. 

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Blai is already on Removing Seldan's Disease! He assumed he didn't need to know what Khayr was saying because he was saying it to Gemma and in Osirian. There you go.

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:We should get to you within half a candlemark: Gemma assures Blai. 

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Shavri is back! She's going to stare so closely at each patient as Khayr casts the mysterious obscure healing spell on them. It's kind of frustrating that most Golarion healing is instantaneous, it doesn't give her a lot of time to assess with her Sight what's happening, but she can focus on different areas for each of the patients and maybe learn something. 

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Vanyel gets it first and the most obvious effect from a high level is that he's immediately no longer leaking life-force out of mysterious cracks! It didn't instantly put all of it back, like a Cure would, and it had some of the Restoration effect but not as strong as the one on Stef, he still looks like he's missing some Endurance and a decent chunk of Strength. 

He's not nauseous anymore! It's so good to not be nauseous anymore! 

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For Seldan Shavri pays attention specifically to the horrific-destruction-of-their-entire-digestive-tract problem, and it's mostly fixing that! In a way that's actually almost the exact opposite of what a channel or Cure would do – it's not, quite, getting the surface-level sores and raw spots, the parts that are the most acute-injury-like – but the more important deeper layer of tissue looks perfectly healthy again!

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On Stef, Shavri is able to focus on the bone marrow, and - yep, that's back. Everything is back. No one is going to be catching any more diseases for no reason whatsoever today! 

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Oh. That's so much better! Seldan is so impatient for the Heralds to figure out their Gate logistics and get someone back here for Blai's turn. 

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Shavri just beams at everyone for a few seconds, and then collects herself and conveys a status update to Khayr and Aziza on what she just saw. 

:We might need a lot of Restorations to get everyone all the way back to normal, if the - stickier - progressive damage doesn't recover on its own, which I kind of suspect it won't. The spell seems to do - something like a weaker Restoration, targeting both of Strength and Endurance but only getting some of the problem? And it fixed the underlying source of the damage, no one's leaking life-force anymore, I'm a bit inclined to say it's not a huge rush and we should wait to allocate however many Restorations we've got today until after we Raise people and find out how many of the problems come back along with them. ...Do you by any chance know how that usually goes, if someone dies and is Raised after very significant damage to Endurance or Strength and it's the glued-in-there kind that a Lesser Restoration can't get at?: 

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"They will have at least enough to live, but not necessarily more than that. A Restoration is especially called for after a Raise in those cases."

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Nod. :In that case I want to decide who gets how many of what after we can line up everyone and judge who's worst-off.: 

(At least it sounds like the spell definitely won't hand them a living Leareth who immediately fucking dies again. That would be so stupid. Shavri is less worried about the others - the Healers and Nayoki didn't die mainly of accumulated damage to Endurance. For the Healers it was just going too long between top-ups of life-force, and in the specific they mainly died of internal bleeding and the kind of injury-prompted brain swelling that the channels and Cures were managing to reset, they just didn't get one soon enough. And it had been well under a day at that point, it might still be the case that none of the damage to Endurance was stuck-on deep enough yet to need a Restoration targeted at that specifically. Nayoki...had probably accumulated some amount of sticky damage to Endurance and Strength by the time she died, but she hadn't had that horrific an accumulation of nonsticky damage. She hadn't wanted to wait twelve or twenty-four candlemarks for that to catch up with her. Leareth is the one where Shavri doesn't have the slightest idea what his condition was when he died, because she never actually got a proper Healing-Sight look at him while he was still alive. They'll just have to see.)

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On the bright side it's only going to be twenty minutes for the Gate! Joshel had just wanted to hang onto people long enough to get a lot of Endure Elements castings on the circuit Heralds he had lined up for that purpose, and to request exactly two Gentle Reposes on the bodies of people who they didn't manage to retrieve in time for the wand-taps last night, but who had died eight days ago yesterday and so are at exactly the nine-day time limit today.

Joshel would ideally quite like to hang onto everyone not powerful enough to help out with the healing they need, but he's happy to send back Raad and the two fifth-circle Abadarans and the fifth-circle cleric of Nethys.  

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While they're waiting for everyone to get cured of their underlying progressive-damage-causing-injury-or-disease-or-poison-or-whatever, Gemma starts setting up for the people they're Raising first thing. It occurred to her that "the bare dirt ground of a back shed" is, like, a pretty terrible place for someone to wake up? Especially if they might wake up still pretty sick! 

She has never specifically had reason to line up three stiff frozen dead bodies in cots and tuck them in nicely with blankets but there's a first time for everything. 

...She's not actually sure of how to thaw them without either taking all day or risking breaking parts off. Probably if it was a problem it would have come up at the Worldwound, which is cold, at least judging by Blai owning cold-weather-appropriate clothing, and Blai would have heard? 

She'll ask Blai if he's ever heard of a Raise Dead not working on a body that was frozen. Since that's what they've got right now. 

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:I... haven't heard either way, and it's probably happened at least once that someone fell in combat and was important enough to Raise and froze before that could be arranged?:

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Gemma would at this point put at least nine in ten odds of it working fine, because Blai must be right that it's surely come up before and if it didn't work he would have been clearly warned not to make that mistake? But she doesn't want to make too many assumptions about another world, and it would be really awful if they wasted a spell because she was too lazy to check thoroughly enough. 

Oh here are the other four clerics! Including the one who's a cleric of Nethys who she has Heard Rumors will just Know Things. Have any of them ever heard of a Raise Dead failing because someone's body was frozen solid? 

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None of them have ever heard of that but none of them are that sure they would have.

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Gemma really feels like this should either be obvious from the spell itself - which doesn't help her - or taught in cleric school or something. She's going to feel SO stupid if it fails because somehow no one thought to include in cleric school that you have to thaw bodies before you try to Raise them. 

...She knows from basic first principles that dead people will cool down to the temperature of the room within, like, a day. Haaaaave any of the clerics Raised someone more than a day after their death, in a climate and at a time of year where a room is comfortable rather than unpleasantly hot (she heard Joshel's recent complaints about deserts in summer and can imagine a body in Sothis being at a reasonable internal temperature for a living person, though also you would really, really not want to keep it like that for even one day, the smell would be awful). If so do they recall people waking up dangerously cold, cold enough to be confused and drowsy, and needing to immediately be bundled up and given warm drinks and such? Because a completely reasonable comfortable room temperature is still low enough to be actively dangerous as the internal temperature of a person's body, and if this isn't universally known then the spell has to be warming people up anyway. 

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Khayr has raised a person on a boat in port in Absalom which is pretty temperate, and he'd been dead for two days, and did not complain of cold on waking.

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Meanwhile, Blai gets his Remove Radioactivity.

...........he is absolutely fucking ravenous and would like to eat a chicken pie the size of his head.

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Shavri is so happy. They should get all of the patients whatever it is they want to eat as soon as possible! They're all half-starving and the spell clearly didn't fix that!

(For specific things like a chicken pie the size of Blai's head, it'll be, like, half a candlemark, while they send a trainee out to find and purchase it, but in the meantime he can have...soup? And bread? Those are what they have available at all times at the House of Healing.) 

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Vanyel would eat an entire baked fish the length of his arm right now. Does Shavri remember that one recipe with the creamy sauce? The one that has some kind of nut ground up in it? 

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Stef was honestly mostly distracted thinking about his SONG which is going to be SO GOOD, but he could definitely eat! Preferably foods that he can hold in one hand while he writes down song-ideas! He wants a sausage roll and a cheese roll and one of those apple-filled pocket pies.... 

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Being a horse now is a little disappointing because apparently Seldan mostly just wants hay - well, he would really prefer to go for new grass but there isn't any due to it being winter. So hay, and he'd like to be grazing on it nonstop for the next twelve candlemarks please. 

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Gemma chews on the question of whether she can risk not thawing the bodies, and then remembers that Yfandes! Was fine! And the stillroom isn't below freezing but at this time of year, without anything happening in it such that Sandra would have put a weather-barrier up, it's not that much warmer than freezing either and Yfandes should have an an immediate very serious health problem if she hadn't been warmed up. Gemma is now fairly reassured that this isn't a problem and she does not need to figure out the best way to thaw an entire body in a reasonable number of minutes. 

 

:I do want to get an exact count of how many Restorations we have between all of you: she says to the assembled clerics. :It's going to be less of a problem with most of the other casualties we're planning to Raise, but today's are people who died of the progressive damage syndrome, so we were planning to Raise at least the three top-priority ones first and then decide how to split Restorations between the people we just healed and the ones we're about to Raise.: 

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Everybody's fifth-circle slots are full of Raises and Khayr spent his fourth-circles on Remove Radioactivity,

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, as did Raad, so they have those available in case Raise Dead like Heal does not fix """"radioactivity"""" (the spell incantation shares a sound with "remove sickness" and "remove disease", so PRESUMABLY whatever was wrong with them is the "radioactivity" part); the fifth-circle trio filled up on Restorations in those slots instead, so they have seven Restorations they can cast if the dust is available.

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Blai will settle for soup and bread. (Can't Seldan have, like, oats and apples as treat?)

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(He can but he doesn't really want to right now! It's weird! Possibly his horse digestive system has just really had enough of the cooked oat-and-grain mash, he thinks it's not really that healthy for horses to eat only grain, you're supposed to feed them mostly the sort of hay and grass that's - completely inedible to humans, huh, come to think of it he doesn't have the faintest idea why horses can digest hay when it would be nutritionally useless for Blai to eat it. Maybe Shavri knows. Anyway, it's - hm, it's not that the hay "tastes" "delicious" precisely it's just very, very satisfying in some way that isn't strictly taste, mmmmmmhay....) 

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Great. That's enough for one per person if they only Raise Leareth, Nayoki, and - what was her name again - Healer Sera, and use the rest of today's Raises on people who died of normal injuries that a Cure would fix. 

Uh. Is anyone absolutely sure they in fact know which one of the bodies is Healer Sera? And can definitely still recognize her after she and the others have been dead for ten days? They did not that Gemma recalls label the bodies. 

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...They did not, and Shavri isn't actually...sure...that she learned the three Healers' names properly at any point, but surely Ovada will know. If that's the plan they should perhaps consider putting the other two back in the shed. 

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But she just went to so much trouble to move them inside and they definitely can't use those cots for any living patients now without first sending all of the linens to the Palace laundry that's a good idea. Though they might as well wait, maybe it'll turn out that people come back without too many problems and they don't all need a Restoration immediately. 

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Ovada can be summoned to identify Sera. He doesn't hesitate to point out one of the bodies in particular, the woman who - before she was dead and frozen, at least - had honey-colored skin and long black hair sprinkled with grey. 

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...Okay. Just to double check, their plan based on the advice that Raad got from Nayoki's soul: Sera first (and they can use her as a test case for what additional healing people need right away), then Leareth and they should specifically have Vanyel come over to be a familiar face, then Nayoki last? 

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That sounds correct to him.

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Time to do this, then!

 

Shavri is aware that she doesn't strictly speaking have to be present for it, but for Sera in particular she's probably the last face the woman remembers seeing before she died. And also she really wants to see what it looks like to Healing-Sight when a currently-dead body becomes, instead, alive! 

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Ovada should also be present, probably, if they have room. At least the person they're bringing back first is unlikely to immediately demand an explanation for everything he's done and then lecture him about it

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Gemma is in possession of a truly spectacular quantity of diamond dust, courtesy of Ovada, and is also ready. 

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Khayr will do this Raise. He'd like to get his slots for the day used up so he can go have his nap soon, he only needs two hours but he's pushing those two hours later than he would by preference.

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Sera wakes up in a bed, feeling fairly disgusting. Since the last time she was conscious was also in a bed, and also feeling disgusting, this isn't actually confusing at all.

Her most recent memories are...vague. 

 

They didn't get Leareth out in time. That's the first thing that comes back, the blow of it - she doesn't, she doesn't know what to do with that, still - not burst into tears, she'll scare the Healer and disturb the other patients - 

 

...she's actually really surprised to be waking up at all. She hadn't - she remembers thinking that she wasn't going to make it, and she - well, it was understandable that she wasn't one of the people they most needed alive, and she was too bleary at the time to even really be hurt, and now she's just - blankly confused. 

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:Hey: Shavri sends. :Just hold still, everything is fine, I need to have a look with my Sight.: Sera is not obviously dying at this exact moment but it's going to take her a moment to determine if she's leaking life-force. 

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Sera cracks an eye open. ...It's bright. 

:Is it morning?: she thinks where Shavri can see it, not quite finding the energy to project proper Mindspeech. :Did anyone...?: 

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:It's been ten– no, eleven days. You and - the other two Healers: whose names Shavri isn't sure she ever knew properly and which she's definitely forgotten by now, :you didn't make it through the night. Nayoki died a couple of days later. Yesterday we were able to get a Gate to Golarion, and we just brought you back. We're doing Leareth next, but - we wanted you to be there as a face he knows. How are you feeling?: 

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:...Alive: Sera manages. It's - hard to wrap her mind around, that until just now, for ELEVEN DAYS, she - wasn't. 

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Alive, and not imminently dying, but she definitely came back with some of the damage to Endurance, which had the by-now-predictable effect of reducing how much life-force she can hold onto, and...it's still leaking. 

:She'll need the spell for progressive damage: Shavri informs whoever is nearby enough to easily hit with Mindspeech. :Looks like the Raise didn't get rid of it. ...She'd probably do fine with just a lot of Lesser Restorations or just resting the normal way, I can't tell yet if any damage is stuck-in-place yet, if so it's not much and I think the progressive damage spell will get all of it.: 

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"Remove Radioactivity," incants Raad.

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Ohhhhhhhh that's better. Sera feels...okay? She's tired, she would love to lie down and sleep for the next twelve candlemarks, but she doesn't feel like she's right now injured or ill, just - a bit weak, the way you are after recovering from a grueling illness. 

 

She sits up - under the blankets she's still wearing the underclothes she remembers having on when she was last conscious - and spends a few seconds examining her own hands for any sign that they were recently corpse hands. 

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Sera would benefit enough from a channel now that she can hold life-force better that it's worth making sure she's in the room next time they need one for any reason, but Shavri doesn't think it's urgent or worth a spell. 

"Do you have any questions about the last ten days?" she says aloud in Valdemaran, which she's pretty sure Sera speaks. "That you'd like answered before we go ahead and get Leareth." 

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"Is he...?" 

Sera looks around and answers her question. That's Leareth. He is definitely not alive right now. She's having to tell herself very very firmly that this is fine and not upsetting because they just told her that they're bringing him back. 

It feels...wobbly, too uncertain to put her weight on, that - what - that someone else decided to step in and salvage the situation, and is rescuing them now of their own free will? It's not something she expected to happen. Raise Dead is a god miracle, right? That's - it still feels a bit dizzying, that there are gods in another world whose followers aren't set on murdering Leareth and sabotaging everything he does. 

It would be rude to try to debate that with the Valdemaran Healer, though. 

 

"Who did the Gate?" she asks. "I - ten days is faster that -" 

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"Brightstar, of all people. He got an apology from the Star-Eyed Goddess and decided to - try to set right some of what he did." 

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"Oh." She says it in a very small voice. 

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"It's going to be okay," Shavri says, quietly. "We have fourteen clerics here," a glance back at Ovada, "and your organization is doing an incredible job of sourcing diamonds. We're going to get a lot of people back. You're just one of the first. - we got Herald Vanyel's Companion yesterday, they had one casting available." 

Though not even close to all of Valdemar's casualties. Valdemar can't afford it and there are better ways to spend what little they have to spare. And Iftel, of course - she doesn't even know what will happen there. 

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Sera nods. 

"I - think that's probably all I need to know, for right now?" She spotted Mage-commander Ovada across the room. If Leareth has strategy questions, she's not the right person to answer those anyway. She's pretty sure her main role here is to be familiar enough that he doesn't TRY TO GATE SOMEWHERE RANDOM again. "...Er, he's going to be coming back with the same problem I - just had, that the healing magic fixed?" 

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"We assume so. We're not sure if he'll be worse off than you, but he's certainly not going to be better off." 

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Nod. "Do I have time to, er, get dressed? I, do you have, could I maybe borrow -?" She does not want Leareth to wake up to her hovering at his bedside in her underclothes

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"Yes, of course. I'll bring you something to wear." 

:She'd like a minute to get properly dressed: she sends to Khayr. :And I'll want to go grab Vanyel for Raising Leareth after this, anyway.: 

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They leave the room to let her dress.

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Vanyel has (only a little grudgingly) taken a break from inhaling soup to get properly dressed in his Heralds' Whites and then join them outside the room. ...With Yfandes. Because he's not really in the mood right now to break physical contact with her at any point in the next week, and there should be plenty of room. 

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Sera calls out that she's ready. She's wearing a spare set of green Healers' robes, which feels odd - Leareth's Healers don't wear uniforms at all unless it's, like, an active combat zone and they need to be immediately recognizable - and she's smoothed down and tied back her hair and gulped a cup of water and then splashed some on her face and she feels a lot more like herself. 

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Mage-commander Ovada will await the inevitable lecture with dignity. 

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Khayr does the Raise.

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Raad is ready with the Remove Radiation right away when that completes.

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Oh no he looks - worse - than how she woke up. A lot worse. 

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Raad already knows they need it and it's going to be done in six seconds and so there's not actually any point in yelling at anyone in Mindspeech that something is really seriously wrong. 

 

The mysterious progressive-damage-fixing spell does, at least, stop the life-force leak, which is GOOD because he does NOT HAVE VERY MUCH right now. On top of all the diffuse wrongness and the sheer dimness of his life force, she's pretty sure he still has a lot of the invisible-to-the-naked-eye injurylike damage that a channel or a Cure should fix - and thus should really have been fixed by Raising him - just because the...whatever the underlying relationship there is between the thing that a Restoration aimed at Endurance fixes and the amount a person can benefit from channels and Cures at all...whatever the deal is with that, he is. Well. He has enough of the thing to be alive at all, which is what they said would happen, but he has, Shavri thinks, literally the exact bare minimum to be alive and no more than that - 

 

- is the spell even going to help - 

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It does help! Like with the others, it doesn't put back the missing life-force, but the leak is gone and he could hold more now if he were to get a channel or a Cure for it. It lands about as hard as one of the good Lesser Restorations - or rather two at once on Endurance and Strength - except that it does look to Shavri like it's getting the glued-in damage that is very definitely there. 

 

There's definitely something else badly wrong, not just the physical damage. Leareth isn't unconscious, his eyes are half-open, but he's not focusing or seeming to recognize anyone. And he abruptly has a lot more Strength than the Dexterity thing that Van needed to cast spells. 

He doesn't try to Gate anywhere. He does try to flail off the bed.

(It has railings, fortunately, so he's not going anywhere.) 

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Oh noooo. :Leareth: Sera sends, and reaches for him – she knows he hates being touched when he's...vulnerable...like this but he's going to hurt himself. :Leareth, it's fine, you're safe, we're in Haven - in Haven and they shut down the Heartstone it's safe here - it's Sera, you know me, you just need to calm down -: 

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Leareth gives absolutely no indication of recognizing her or understanding Mindspeech. 

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oh no this is so much worse than being lectured 

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The fifth-circle Abadaran lady, Cicerone Kanza, has dust at the ready. "Restoration."

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Restoration takes three rounds to cast. From Sera's perspective this feels like a very, very long time. 

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It's long enough for Shavri to get a Healing-link up – it's not terribly hard, physically he's stable and not dying and his heartbeat is steady, although within seconds it's trying to be very very fast because he clearly doesn't have the slightest idea what's happening or why he's being restrained and is terrified. 

Assessment: wow that is a lot of nerve damage, including quite a lot of it that looks sticky, a Restoration targeted on Endurance - which she assumes is the plan - won't get the sticky part of that. The fixing-it spell does seem to have gotten at least a very solid chunk of the damage to his literal muscle strength and she thinks that a solid majority of what's left won't be sticky though of course she'll know for sure in another ten seconds. 

There's something diffusely wrong in his brain, removing the progressive-damage source of it didn't remove all the downstream effects and there were really quite a lot of downstream effects and it's - some of it is injurylike, the way people look after they've had a hard blow to the head, some of it is more reminiscent of elderly people...there's something else she doesn't even know how to describe, or maybe six different something-elses, because it turns out that brains are fragile and they do not so much like the results of the whole progressive-damage cascade playing out to their very conclusion, and there was time for that to happen before Leareth actually died, apparently - that might have been the main damage that killed him, that without healing in the first seconds his brain just started...disintegrating...even as his heart kept beating... 

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- the Restoration did get something, Shavri had Thoughtsensing open and it wasn't even getting her anything meaningful that she could parse - it was like reading an infant, there's a mind there but not really a person - and now there's a person. 

 

A very very scared person who is still not processing his surroundings very well and is sort of abruptly snapping to something like actual consciousness with his body already in a full-fledged panic-reaction and pretty much the only semi-coherent thought he can retrieve (which is the last semi-coherent thought he remembers hanging onto) is an absolute certainty that he's dying and nobody is going to come.

(He stops flailing and holds very still.) 

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:Leareth: Sera sends, for what feels like the hundredth time in the last...it hasn't even been thirty seconds.:Leareth, it's Healer Sera, we're in Haven, you're safe, can you - if it's too hard to speak or Mindspeak just think that you understand me, please -: 

 

He does not answer her. 

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To Healing-Sight it looks like the Restoration got a lot of damage that wasn't all that deeply stuck in place – it was very 'recent' damage, the last ten or fifteen minutes of Leareth's life – and Shavri isn't actually sure why something still seems so badly wrong with him. A Cure would help, she thinks, some of whatever's wrong is injury-like, but - she's never seen quite this sort of pattern before, which makes sense, she's never had a patient die of something unsurvivable and then be raised from the dead and subjected to two specifically-targeted healing spells from another world in quick succession. 

...The way that he's - scrambled - reminds her a bit of Van when he's been delirious with fever. Or Blai just recently, come to think of it. He doesn't actually have a fever, though, or any kind of disease that she can detect, which makes it a lot harder to figure out the solution. 

:I don't know what's wrong: she tells the various assembled clerics, almost plaintively. :He's just really, really confused for some reason - have you ever seen this happen before -: 

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Headshake.

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"I have a new Heal, if you'd like me to try it."

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Shavri spends about two and a half seconds considering if it's perhaps a good idea to save the incredibly good expensive powerful spell - it's literally a higher circle than the Raise Dead, she thinks? though it admittedly doesn't eat a diamond - for later, and try cheaper things, like a Cure Light Wounds, it's going to be spectacularly overkill on Leareth's ability to absorb life-force just like it was on Randi. 

But it worked really well on Randi, on all the diffuse wrongness that wasn't exactly in the path of a Lesser Restoration, and it does seem plausible to Shavri that whatever Leareth has wrong with him would resemble a much much more severe version of that. 

:I think it's worth a try: she says tightly. 

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Sera is still tightly gripping both of Leareth's hands.

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"Heal."

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Leareth is very suddenly no longer–

 

–well, he's confused! He's really quite confused! But mostly in the way where it's objectively a really confusing situation! Leareth is very sure who he is and is - located in the present - and has a feeling that until this exact moment he wasn't either of those things. He still has an enormous number of unanswered questions about where he is and when it is, and why and how he's in this particular when-and-where, and he's...scattered? no, that's not quite right, he just - keeps expecting to be able to hold onto more pieces at once than he in fact can - 

 

Also someone is Mindspeaking him and seems to be in the middle of a sentence that he wasn't parsing the start of and that's making things even more confusing. 

:I need a moment: he sends at - :Sera? Where are we?: 

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Sera is perhaps going to start literally crying in relief. 

 

:Haven. We're in Haven. You were dead - you're back, the cleric just Raised you - they got a Gate to Golarion yesterday -: She had a way more coherent version lined up before the last thirty seconds of...that. 

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...Leareth is immediately and on pure instinct going to attempt to mindread everyone in range. 

(His shields also snap up, though he doesn't actually knock Sera's hands away. She seems very upset right now and he doesn't want to make that worse.) 

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A rote prayer - golden sun shining on everyone, blue sky blanketing everyone, and this one in front of me right now -

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That was so much diamond dust and the spell should have the muscle memory to measure out the right amount but if there was some under her fingernails or something -

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He's gonna have enough money for a really nice headband after all this and it's not even life threatening.

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Sera is Gifted with excellent training and would normally be shielding more than this, but she's not wearing any of her talismans (after she died the Healers packed up her things to store in a locked cabinet they have for that purpose) and she's more or less fully open; she doesn't even notice the probe. She's shaking with relief and trying to get herself under control enough to stop literally crying and - he's shielding, he used Mindspeech and asked her a perfectly coherent question, he's actually back - 

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Ovada is also Gifted (mage-gift and Thoughtsensing both) and wearing a talisman against Thoughtsensing on habit. He does notice the probe, it's a lot - flailier - than usual, but the man was dead thirty seconds ago, it's still pretty impressive. 

He considers taking the talisman off, to let Leareth save some time on getting himself oriented, but then Leareth would see all of his STUPID WORRYING and it would probably not be reassuring at all! 

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Shavri is Gifted and has Tayledras training and Leareth...could probably still get through against her best efforts, honestly, if he were boosting his Thoughtsensing Gift with node-energy. She's not a mage.

He isn't pushing nearly that hard right now, but she lets him through anyway. Her mind is mostly full of echoes of the Heal spell under her Sight. It's such a beautiful spell! It still managed to be both massively overkill on Leareth - he couldn't hold onto a fraction of the life-force it tried to throw at him, though between the mystery spell and the Restoration and apparently being a more robust person than Randi ever was even when he was healthy, he did catch more of it and all the core patterns of life-force are bright and solid now - and in spite of that she suspects still didn't fix all the sticky damage - you know what she should do, honestly she should have done it before she asked Khayr to use up a very high-circle spell, she should have asked Jisa to come have a look, some of the things that were subtle and hard to tease apart in Healing-Sight would probably be glaringly obvious to a Mindhealer. It does look like it fully and truly fixed the fever-delirium-without-a-fever, which was the part that really had her unsure what to do, it might well have passed on its own with a week of rest but that would be such an awful week and meanwhile all his people really want him properly back - 

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Vanyel, on some intuition he didn't think about, dropped his shields a few seconds ago, at the point when it seemed like Leareth was awake-but-disoriented, it's just - a sense of Leareth as a person, that he's obviously going to need to make sense of where he is and use all of his Gifts to do so...

 

He's mostly frustrated that all of that just happened and the only even conceivably useful spell he had was Stabilize but at least! he could have cast it! instead of failing to cast it! He was supposed to be here to be a helpful reassuring presence and instead he feels like he froze and did nothing at all while Leareth was having some sort of confusing very bad time!

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....Leareth should possibly not have impulsively mindread the powerful clerics from another world and he's not sure it makes it better that, unlike the mind-Gifted people in the room, they apparently failed to notice at all - there's a thought that starts to form and doesn't quite together, like there would normally be more...something...to build it out of and it's not quite there... 

 

Leareth tucks his Thoughtsensing away and - no complicated thoughts right now. He doesn't feel injured or ill or even especially tired and that's throwing him off but he does know how to operate while impaired. 

"How long has it been?" he asks Sera. In Valdemaran, since apparently they're in Valdemar. 

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She takes a deep shaky breath and lets it out. "Eleven days. The Gate took ten. I was dead until fifteen minutes ago. Natan and Olli didn't make it through the first night either. Nayoki died a few days in. They're getting her next."

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And Vanyel is in the room and seems to be upset about something, but it would be pretty obvious if it was a broken lifebond, so Stef is alive. And…it takes a frustratingly long time to piece together the note of confusion, but - they must have gotten Yfandes first thing, good, because if Van still had a broken Companion-bond that would also have been…loud.

The next question is “…Select Artigas and - his Companion, are they -?” Speaking works fine, Leareth isn’t short of breath or struggling more than a little bit with enunciating words, the problem is just that his mind is repeatedly sticking for a moment and only producing the words he wanted after a second of delay and he’s not used to that, at least not until he’s been awake for thirty candlemarks, so he keeps forgetting to structure his speech with room for pauses.

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That would have been such an obvious thing for Sera to ask Shavri about before and yet she didn’t think of it at all! She would have thought the Golarion clerics would Raise their fellow Golarion cleric before anyone else, and assumed that he’s alive now even if he wasn’t for an interlude, but she doesn’t actually know - helpless glance at Shavri -

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“They both survived the wait and got the main problem healed this morning,” Shavri says, a little flatly. It’s still a little bit of a sore spot. 

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Raad heard the name "Select Artigas" but doesn't expect Leareth to be able to understand him if he reports on it, he doesn't know if this is one of the telepaths or not.

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They did survive but NO THANKS TO VANYEL

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:- Can you even hear yourself right now, love?: Gently. :You wouldn’t let Shavri get away with guilt this misplaced, if she came to you for an ear.:

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No but that’s— fine. Yfandes is probably right. As usual. 

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Leareth feels like he’s lost track of at least one puzzle piece here, and he’s needing to retrace his mental steps to figure out what he was confused about - he doesn’t think it was that to begin with but it’s also pretty spectacularly confusing -

“How did you solve the Gate routing in ten days?” This time he remembers to just speak slowly so his mind can keep up. “My median timeline was three weeks.”

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“Brightstar was critical for it,” Shavri says. “You would’ve been splitting your attention, he worked on it around the clock for a week. …There were also some very unsafe Gates to the Elemental Plane of Fire involved. It was only doable with channels every three hours - Van has six a day.”

It’s finally occurred to her that she’s leaving the foreign clerics out of the conversation entirely. Leareth seems to prefer not-Mindspeech right now, but Shavri can send them all a condensed summary of what Leareth asked about, and then echo her spoken words to them in Mindspeech.

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"Would you like the next person Raised now?"

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Oh right Khayr was on duty all night for the Remove Sickness-y effect and would probably like to slip out for some rest soon.

:Yes, I think we’re ready. - she should come back in better condition than he did, closer to Sera.:

 

“We’re going to get Nayoki next,” she tells Leareth.

 

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“Of course.”

Leareth tries to sit up and - runs into a surprising degree of difficulty, which again catches him off guard what with the not feeling ill or in pain at all. He’s a little weak, like he spent a long time in bed with an illness he’s only just recovered from, but the main problem is that he instinctively grips the bed rails for leverage — or rather, tries to, and instead one hand misses entirely and he bangs his knuckles in the process, and he overbalances and topples back and has to start over.

 

With a lot more intense concentration on the task, he can manage to sit up without needing help - Sera tries to reach to support him and he shakes his head - but he’s having to compensate for his hands just. Entirely failing to do what he wants unless he’s giving it his full attention, at which point it still feels like trying to work when he’s been out in a snowstorm with no gloves and no weather-barrier for a candlemark. 

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“…I think a lot of the nerve damage was sticky,” Shavri says quietly. “There’s a spell to fix it but we only have six left today to cover everyone.” 

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Leareth nods. At least mage-sight seems to be working, and he can watch the spell when they Raise Nayoki. He’s curious. 

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They're being very profligate with the diamond dust. Raad did not personally retire because of an injury that would have been too expensive to Restore but he knows people who did.

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"Raise Dead."

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"Remove Radioactivity."

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Well, it’s not like it’s Shavri’s diamond dust, Leareth’s staff just keep handing them sacks of the stuff

(Joshel did muse to her that the price will probably equalize a bit more once all the gem-merchants and jewelers in Velgarth catch on. But right now, in Velgarth, diamond dust is mostly a byproduct of turning diamonds into a pretty but otherwise-useless luxury good, that the jewelers don’t have all that much use for though it’s worth keeping for the occasional noble lady who wants a painted miniature with sparkle, and the initial diamond-procurement teams were able to take it off their hands for a particularly affordable price.)

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Nayoki is indeed not nearly as badly off as Leareth was! She wakes up and can guess more or less immediately what happened and the general context. Her most recent memory is quite clear and not at all ambiguous.

(She asked if Shavri could give her a double dose of argonel. Shavri said that at that point she might as well keep Nayoki asleep with Healing and stop her heart. Nayoki, if she recalls correctly, said “in that case, why would I want to be asleep? Nobody else will know what that is like and come back to report on it”, and then proved for posterity that she could count off seven seconds in Mindspeech with her heart no longer beating before the point where she stops remembering anything.)

She endures six seconds of nausea and trepidation that apparently her body came back with the problem still there??? But they were going to have better healing, too - and there, it’s gone. She’s tired and weak and not that enamored with the idea of using her Gifts for much, but she sits up, determines that she can do so with - a lot less difficulty than before, at least - and then sees Leareth.

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It worked! He’s back and - they won - it’s all right now -

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It does help to see Nayoki sit up, alert and herself and apparently not having nearly as many problems after her ordeal. Leareth nods to her.

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:I think that’s everyone we wanted to Raise first thing today?: Shavri says to Luminary Khayr. :If you need to get some rest..: Shavri should really also do that, though she’s feeling a little bit inclined to hover and make sure Leareth is actually all right.

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"I do have another prepared, but perhaps it can wait until after my two hours." He goes and finds his sword guy, who slept during the night and therefore knows where to go.

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"Do we want a Restoration here too?"

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(They're definitely going to need more Raises today but, given that they're not in a rush to get the other Healers until they've figured out whether they have enough Restorations to cover everyone until tomorrow, it's predictably going to take longer than a few candlemarks to sort out. And, guess what, NOT BE SHAVRI'S PROBLEM ANYMORE.) 

She translates this to Nayoki, Sera, and Leareth in Mindspeech. :I mean, almost certainly, but I'm not sure on who and targeted to what and I think we need a little while to figure that out, if that's all right? I kind of want to line everyone up in my room and stare at them a bit.:

And get Jisa in to stare at Leareth and help her diagnose what's up with him and whether a night of sleep will help. She's pretty sure a night of sleep will help Nayoki and Sera substantially, and leave it easier to determine what's sticky enough to need a full Restoration on, though of course Ovada might want Nayoki back at full capacity today - especially if she's right and it would take, like, most of their remaining available Restorations to get Leareth all the way to his usual self. 

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Can they maybe line up in a different room than the one that contains the dead bodies of two of her friends. 

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"Maybe now that none of us are dying we can go to a meeting-room?" Vanyel is INCREDIBLY TIRED of spending all of his waking hours at the House of Healing. 

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Shavri relays this. :I think no one is having any medical emergencies at all and it's just a question of who we most need unimpaired and who's the most bothered about waiting. ...Actually, I'd value anything you happen to know on how targeting Restorations at different problems works? We had the chance to experiment some with targeting Lesser Restorations to different physical problems, but the way your magic splits them up into categories doesn't cleanly line up with what's obvious to me in Healing-Sight.: 

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"...well, we choose which ability at the time of casting, but don't have a lot more granularity than that."

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...She drops Leareth from who she's targeting Mindspeech to because possibly he does not need to listen in on them discussing his brain right now. 

:I think I'm feeling unsure how to - diagnose in advance, with what I can see, which mental abilities need to be targeted? I'm pretty sure Leareth has some kind of lingering damage but it's subtle to notice at all and I've made no headway at all on distinguishing with Healing-Sight which specific mental abilities in the sense your magic splits them up are affected. I was thinking I should– oh, actually, Nayoki has Mindhealing Sight, that's actually meant for looking at minds.: 

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Does she have to, she has not had a Restoration and still really wants a nap fine. It does seem important. 

:...He is clearly having some sort of problem. I am also not sure how to map it to - what is the split, actually, I think I missed that if we ever discussed it.: 

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"The mental abilities are Wisdom, Splendor, and Cunning. Clerics must be Wiser than most people, the wizard in our contingent would be more Cunning, and anyone with more channels than the rest of us is more Splendid. Some of us have Wisdom headbands, but if we lend those out our spellcasting will be worsened for a day; it takes them some time to kick in well enough to support it. At second circle we can prepare spells to enhance Wisdom and Splendor; the wizard may also have the one for Cunning but clerics do not receive it."

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Nayoki could maybe get somewhere if they didn't mind her peeking at all of them with Mindhealing-Sight but that sounds hard right now. 

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...Shavri is definitely getting the sense that Nayoki either needs a Restoration today or a vacation and the first one is a lot cheaper, however much it costs in diamond dust. 

:We should get Jisa to come consult.: Glance at the assembled clerics. :Er, do any of you mind being looked at with Mindhealing Sight? It's not mindreading, it doesn't get any content of thoughts, it's - structure and patterns - I'm sure Jisa could bounce her Sight of me or something if you wanted an example before deciding if you're comfortable with it.: 

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"I don't think that's in the scope of what we were retained for."

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...Fair enough and Shavri will drop it there. Jisa can probably get somewhere by comparing Blai and Vanyel, who they know are in opposite directions on relative Splendor versus Wisdom. And maybe Blai can get somewhere by just having a conversation with Leareth while having a more nuanced understanding of the different aspects, or maybe he can describe the spells-that-increase-one if he's experienced them and Leareth will instantly be able to report which spell sounds the most appealing to him and that's probably a good test of what's bothering him the most– 

 

...she's way too tired for this, actually, now that the immediate lineup of tasks is over, and she and would like to make the whole thing someone else's problem for a while. Where has Gemma gotten to...? 

:Gemma, I really need to get some sleep. Can you - we need some more Restorations, we've got six left and seven people, and we're kind talking ourselves in circles about who needs one the most - can you figure it out? Wrangle them all into a room or something. Not this room and not the neighboring one either, people have bad associations, but I'm not sure everyone is actually ready to be very up and about until after we sort out those Restorations so–: She stops herself. :I don't know. Can you figure it out?: 

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Gemma can do that. (She's tired too, it's been a long, long week and a half, but unlike Shavri she properly had the night off.) 

She thanks the clerics warmly and says they'll have decided within a candlemark and hopefully sooner what to do with the spells and after that they'll -

(- what is the plan? are they wanted for Raising some of the other Leareth-organization casualties, that's up north, or for their channels and spells on the border relief effort? why in the world would Gemma know things like that? - she's going to Mindspeak Rolan directly, she has the range for it, and tell him to please figure that out, it's not her job -) 

- after that they will have a clear answer on what the plan for the rest of today is and someone to direct them to places. In the meantime, can she...get them anything...have someone show them to a room, or something...(whyyy is Joshel who recruited all these people in the first place off on the border and leaving Gemma with the diplomacy ugh)...

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They mostly slept last night! In rooms! If there is somewhere they should be going to eat, the fifth-circles don't all have Rings of Sustenance and even the people who do sometimes like eating if there's no shortage.

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ROLAN PLEASE SEND A TRAINEE OVER HERE TO BE WELCOMING TO THE IMPORTANT CLERICS FROM ANOTHER WORLD AND SHOW THEM THE DINING HALL 

THIS IS NOT THE HEALERS JOB THE HEALERS ARE BUSY 

 

She tells Cicerone Raad that there's a lovely dining hall and someone will show them over there shortly. And then she can wrangle these people over to - how about this nice room! It has windows on two sides and sofas - it's not a patient room per se, most of the time, the Healers rest there during long shifts and they use it when some important noble patient from out of the city has a very large family and retinue and all of them want to Show Up and Be Involved. Everyone can sit comfortably, or flop if they're still feeling that way, and it does not contain ANY dead bodies OR smell like vomit. 

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Vanyel would be delighted! He'll go get Stef and tell Seldan and Blai that they get to go somewhere a lot nicer than this! It has decorations on the walls and everything!

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:Are we - having a meeting? Is everyone back? Did it go all right?:  

Seldan is pretty sure he can walk there, but he's not sure he wants to commit to walking back unless there's definitely going to be a Restoration happening. 

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What happens if a Companion breaks their leg. - okay what happens obviously is that Blai burns a spell on it immediately but like in the general case, he's pretty sure that without magical healing a normal horse does not come back from that - not that he's second-guessing Seldan's opinion of his ability to walk -

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Do they want her anywhere in particular for channels or should she just drift around to wherever it seems like it's the happening place?

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:Er, we're: and by 'we' she means SOMEONE ELSE who is NOT HER, :currently figuring out logistics on where channels will be needed later. You're welcome to go join the others if you'd like to eat, someone's going to show them to the dining hall.: 

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Vanyel smiles at her. He's formed the thought at least eight times that he really should actually get to know the other Shelynite and learn more about his ??new religion??

:You're welcome to follow us down the hall, I think we're just doing some catching up with the people who just got Raised and then figuring out how to split up the Restorations.: 

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(Seldan isn't going to fall and break his leg! That's not the failure he's worried about here, he's more worried that at some point he will evince an urgent need to not be standing and will gracefully and without falling lie down on the floor to rest and then how are they supposed to get him out of the hallway. - also Companions generally recover fine from a broken leg, because unlike horses they have the intelligence to follow Healers' orders about not putting weight on it, and on top of that their natural healing seems a bit faster and more thorough. But Seldan is really not going to break his leg in the hall of the House of Healing!) 

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(Of course. Sorry.)

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Aziza (and her brother, who hasn't said a word but is grouchily glaring at any male who gets within arm's reach of her) follows the crowd into the designated room. "Hi Songbird!" she chirps at Vanyel. "Vanyel, right? I'm Aziza."

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Vanyel can take a hint and will keep a polite distance. He's walking with careful deliberation - the mystery problem-fixing spell helped but he's still not feeling fully normal, maybe at this point it's just the being bedridden for over a week. 

:Yes. This is Yfandes, my Companion, and this is Bard Stefen, my lifebonded.: It occurs to him a fraction of a second later that he has no idea if they're from somewhere like Rethwellan where being shaych is more than just 'a bit frowned up', but then again he's been wrapped around Stef since yesterday, they can't have failed to notice. He smiles again to cover the slight pause. :Fortunately he's not a Mindspeaker so he can't bother you about the ballad he's wring unless someone translates for him.: 

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Vanyel included Stef in this. Stef sticks his tongue out.

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"Ooooh, a ballad!" she grins, clasping her hands. "I'm not a music specialist but I love a good ballad."

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Vanyel is also a fan of ballads in general but much less so when they're about his actual life. They always end up covering the horrible parts in loving detail.

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"Ask her what she went off with Shavri for earlier," Stef says lightly to Vanyel. 

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"What? Oh." Vanyel was distracted because they just passed Leareth. He nods to Vanyel in a way that looks from the outside like his usual unruffled self, but Vanyel doesn't at all believe it. 

:Stef wants to know what you were doing with Shavri early in the morning today. ...He just wants to know if it's something juicy for the song, you don't have to say if you'd rather he not do that.: 

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"Oh, nothing like that, I just thought she looked run down and might want a minute talking to somebody in a less crowded room. - is that Leareth? I meant to ask him how he was doing too."

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You can't just ask Leareth how he's doing, that's not how anything works

:That's Leareth: Vanyel confirms. :...He had the worst time after being Raised but he got a whole lot of healing, though he should really get at least a few more Restorations.: Shrug. 

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She whistles a little through her teeth (and means "spendy!") but just says, "Any tips on approaching? He's one of the telepaths, right?"