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Cam in Materia
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Servantmakers finish waking a sufficient army of automata ready to take instructions from the Silmarils.

And now all they have to do is find Melkor.

Cam worldleaps from Evil Arda, over and over, performing abbreviated versions of the standard new universe checks (inhabited? alts? magic? tech? dire emergencies?) followed by attempting to conjure the current form or surroundings of Evil Arda's Melkor. As with jumps from Edda, he turns up a lot of Stuff, for a value of Stuff that means the checks result in "yes, no, meh, enh, put it on the list" and no immigrant evil deities.

He's on his fifteenth try when he manages, somehow, to land on a planet, in a cornfield, where he is promptly yelled at by short barefoot people until he flies out of their cornfield. He lands by a nice little creek, starts checking for alts - 'habitable' being a clear yes. Gets nothing. Oh well. He flies on, looking for more cosmopolitan bits of civilization than random corn farming midgets. Tries to start his computer on the way to compose a preliminary report for the folks back home.

It won't turn on.

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Six hours later a disgruntled demon is knocking on a palace door.

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The person knocking on the palace door has wings and a tail and it is quite possible they are very dangerous, which is hardly a reason not to open the door for them. They send a runner off to tell someone of importance what's going on and they open the door and smile pleasantly and welcome Cam to the kingdom of Nolordel.

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"Hello. I really am sorry to drop in unannounced."

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That is reassuring. He gets a reassured smile. What can they help him with?

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"Do you happen to have a picture of the King around? This may or may not be a mistaken identity thing."

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There's a painting on a wall in a gallery across the way. It's of the King over a decade ago; he was sixty-five, then, but a hale sixty-five for a human.

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"Nope, he's who I'm looking for. Thank you. I am not in a particularly desperate hurry and am willing to wait for him or a convenient member of his family wherever's easiest for you."

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The King is now seventy-eight and doesn't sit audiences very often; his oldest son does, but is occupied. After some handwringing and some rushed and incomplete summaries his son agrees to go meet the eccentric winged person of uncertain provenance who is waiting patiently in one of the reception rooms. 

 

So he does. "Hello. Ferardrin. If you introduced yourself it somehow escaped my staff."

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"My name is Cam and I am extraplanar visitor in pursuit of an evil god and several of my usual abilities are broken since I got here and I know a bunch of versions of you from other planes."

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This is actually not the most ridiculous thing that has ever happened. Does mean to step carefully, though, around someone in pursuit of an evil god. "...okay," he says. "Welcome to the prime material plane, I suppose? Is the evil god around, are there precautionary measures it wouldn't be useless to take?"

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"My method of detecting things like evil gods is one of the broken powers, it's very annoying, so I don't know if he's here or not. I need an explanation of why this world breaks everything which involves less screaming at me than the people in the city I visited were able to manage, and, depending on what the answer is, a locality-friendly means of acquiring an eidetic memory. Depending on what things do work here there may well be such precautions even if I can't bring in the thing I was going to use to kill him."

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"I can manage to not scream at you but please do not actually do things that involve your extraplanar powers, this is an inhabited area and also I think my father'd rather fall apart even if no one died but us. If the world's breaking things you try that's a sign you should stop. 

 

You could get a headband for intelligence but I do not think even the very highest end of those gives one an eidetic memory."

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"Yeah I got the idea that the locals think messing with my extraplanar powers is unwise after about the third or fourth time they screamed at me. Some stuff still works. Translation magic's still going, for instance."

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"Things that haven't been a problem you can keep using, though if they start being a problem stop. Maybe your home universe likes you and lets you get away with a lot more, but are you really unfamiliar with the concept that trying to find exploits in the universe is dangerous?"

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"No. Not at all. Even slightly. Not in dozens of worlds has this ever come up. I think this is a here thing."

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"It's true on every plane we've ever heard of. But it certainly is a here thing, regardless of whether it's only a here thing. The universe does not like people looking for exploits; if you are lucky it will just break things when you try. If you are not lucky you will die, or the physical regularities you were trying to exploit will stop being such. There is a place south of here where some idiot tried to measure whether all objects fall at the same speed, and for a mile around down is up."

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"Jeez, no wonder in between all the screaming your uncle was a cautionary tale."

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"...sorry?"

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"Sorry, I'll back up - uh, remember I mentioned alternate versions of you? Standard procedure when I go to an unfamiliar world is to see if anybody I know has a version there. You're one of the people I check for, but, checking mechanism's broken. When people were screaming at me one of them managed to stop long enough to tell me the story of your tragically deceased uncle as an object lesson in why I should stop performing experiments and so on. In most worlds, performing experiments is perfectly safe and instances of your uncle manage to live past age twelve, but I can totally see why this would not be a good environment for one of him at all."

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"He was thirteen, but yeah. ..I actually think thirteen was the third time but it was the time they couldn't resurrect him no matter what they tried. 

 

If there are planes where he's alive it would be really lovely to get to speak to him. I think the King still grieves him, and I know my father does."

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"...there are planes where he's alive yes."

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"...problem?"

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"You don't usually get along very well."

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"No? Well, the other versions of our family wouldn't have grown up seeing what losing him did to the rest of us."

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"He actually doesn't get along with any of his half-siblings or any of their kids. Things are typically better between you and your cousins that you usually have though."

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"I guess I would. Usually have cousins. 

 

 

Okay. We'll want to meet them anyway but I'll try to manage everyone's expectations."

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"You're also usually a different species, but there's another world with human instances, you won't be the odd one out."

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"What species?"

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"Elves, but I think my translation magic's glitching on that and I'm for obvious reasons wary of trying to fix it right now, if you think I'm referring to a local species I'm not."

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"Yes, it sounds like you are referring to a local species. Okay. I appreciate the explanation. So, the evil god you're chasing?"

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"In addition to there being alternate universe versions of people there are alternate universe versions of universes. One of them plays out along this trajectory that involves an evil god, among other things. He is very evil. We have three ways to kill instances of him that are verified to work - sort of four I guess but effectively three - but two only work in specific universe-neighborhoods; I don't even know if this world is in one of those or not because my stuff is broken and I can't check. The other one's portable. I am a scout and evil-god-detector to find where we need to port it, because one of the evil gods ran away when confronted instead of staying in the neighborhood where he could be easily killed. The nerve."

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"And you're trying to determine whether he ran away to here? We have a lot of evil gods, he'll probably fit right in."

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"Well, that's a problem in its own right."

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"Yes, it is. I had an uncle whose ambition it was to fix it."

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"Things haven't gotten noticeably eviler around here lately or anything?"

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"No. When would your god have arrived?"

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"Couple years back."

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"To my knowledge nothing particularly evil started happening a couple years back, and certainly no new gods declared themselves. But I can ask around. What precautionary measures might we be able to take, beyond 'find someone epic and pray'?"

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"Ummm - sorry, my eidetic memory is broken and so is my usual notetaking system. He has probably brought some smaller-versions-of-the-kind-of-god-he-is servants. These can be repelled with a symbol I don't remember how to draw inscribed in walls. If he has found a place he likes and parked there he can invest power in it and probably won't budge unless he has a really good reason and is extra powerful there. He's fond of taking prisoners, fiddling with their memories, and dropping them into elaborate hallucinations of varying levels of tortuousness which include escaping or being rescued and then turning out not to be rescued over and over again so when they really get out they think they're still in; there is actually a way to distinguish the hallucinations from reality but only if you're a that-kind-of-world Elf, for you all I've got is that he can read memories but not actually minds per se. Unless he's getting local help or something, I don't know what you've got here in that department. I would seriously worry about him having it in for your family because he usually murders your grandfather but I don't know how interesting he'll find y'all in this circumstance."

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He looks not particularly bothered by any of this. "Oh, okay. We'll definitely keep an eye out.

...subtle artists can read minds but that's innate, I don't think even a god would have it if he's from a plane that doesn't have subtle arts to begin with. Why does he usually find my family interesting?"

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"We haven't sat any of these guys down and quizzed them about it. Usually you're the royalty of this tribe of Elves called Noldor and have particularly accessible fracture points for him to lean on, I guess? Also his main servant, Sauron or Thauron or way too many other names I can't remember without my eidetic fucking memory, has a particular creepy thing about your oldest cousin-you-don't-have, that won't be in play here..."

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"That's good. 

 

If all he does is settle down somewhere and torture people he can catch I doubt we'll have any luck convincing any other gods to intervene, but that's the perfect setup for some epic adventurer. If we identify his location I can make sure they all at least know the opportunity is available."

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"Epic adventurers are your local divine pest control solution?"

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"...another difference? So just like the universe objects to people trying to experiment on it, it objects to hubris. If you think too highly of yourself, which includes thinking too loudly that you don't deserve to get squished or tortured or cursed because you ran into the wrong something-powerful, then you will die badly. If I tried to raise an army and go off to fight an evil god the universe would check whether I am thinking myself overly important and then it would drop a brick on me out of the sky, or a dragon, or - 

- epic adventurers are people who the universe likes, and who have done lots of the sort of things that make glorious awesome stories, and if they fight a god the universe will not squish them for having the nerve to try."

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"D'you suppose my credits transfer?"

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"If you have killed some gods then yes, you are probably epic."

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"Okay good because deinstalling hubris from my brain sounds like a pain and a half and would not be good for me long term."

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"You still probably want to be cautious with it. Don't go around giving speeches about how no one deserves to be munched on by dragons or anything. ...is it a good idea to make an ethernet post asking for information about the possible operations of a new evil entity, or will that likely provoke him?"

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"...is the ethernet a fantastic agglomeration of media, reference material, ephemera, random cruft, anonymous racism, and mediocre design which people can access from personal devices of some kind?"

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"Yes. You have one back home?"

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"Yes. But the evil god doesn't, I'd be very surprised if he were conversant with it this fast, his kind of god is slow at..." gesture, "things. Sauron might be quicker on the uptake. Go hard on the anonymity just in case, I don't know them to have any means of divination that would get around that except insofar as regular people could do it."

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"Anonymous ethernet posts it is, though that'll make it harder to be taken seriously. I'll let you know if anything results. Do you have, or require, a place to stay, local currency, meals..."

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Sigh. "Normally, I have no physical needs per se. Here, I'm guessing I probably shouldn't push it and I should eat and sleep on a human schedule, and I assume you'd rather give me food and a place to crash than have me conjure it up. Back before the screaming had sunk in sufficiently I did try to conjure some local currency, it didn't work but pencil and paper did, but I will stop irresponsibly conjuring pencil and paper to write messages back home if you'll provide some."

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"...what exactly are your normal powers?"

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"As part of being the species I am, I can normally create arbitrary matter and am normally totally indestructible. I was not stupid enough to see how indestructible I still am but I don't, outside this universe, get hurt worse than 'scratched' or more than a little hungry or tired or inclined to inhale or whatever. Arbitrary matter has useful exploits like being able to conjure up things that I don't have to design or know very much about - the way I usually find alts is I try to make the complete works of the local version of whoever I'm looking for, for instance. My translation magic is still working apparently as normal but I haven't fiddled with it in any of the ways I normally can since I landed. I also wear a bunch of doodads which have properties ranging from letting me sense magnetic fields through my much-missed eidetic memory; these are all broken. Via the eidetic memory I can memorize spells of a sort one of my alts who is also my girlfriend composes; without eidetic memory she's the only person who can keep them straight but when they're working they let me turn into a bird and back, correct my balance issues - I've got a redundant balance issues solution cast on me which doesn't seem to have abandoned me so far - do visual and auditory illusions, heal, and teleport, including interdimensionally but that does have to respect adjacency of worlds. And technically not part of my powers but part of my general wherewithal is that I know things about a lot of technology, which I can normally conjure up."

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"Technology's definitely not going to be safe here, it wouldn't surprise me if it does things worse than break. I'm sorry. I imagine it'd be deeply unpleasant to lose all of that suddenly.

 

Your forms of magic do not sound like they work anything like how ours does."

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"I'm getting that sense. And yeah, the first thing I noticed was that my equivalent of whatever you go on the ethernet with was not behaving, although I noticed the eidetic memory was gone right after that. Do you have, like, a hazmats procedure for the technology or anything. It didn't catch fire? It just won't turn on?"

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"You wouldn't want to leave it lying around lest someone do something absurdly dangerous like try to take it apart and see what it's made of - that's not safe to do even with things that do consistently work in our world - but if it didn't explode at you at once it probably won't do so now. Perhaps we can bury it. 

 

We use crystal balls to go on the ethernet. I can get you one and teach you how to use it - let me arrange for meals and a place to stay and changes of clothes and local currency and so on first -"

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"Thank you very much, normally I would offer you some arbitrary material objects for your trouble, but, um."

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"It is very much my pleasure. I am deliberately not considering ways in which, if we find extraplanar studies experts who can send you back home, we could exploit that to get a lot of people clear of here and somewhere safer - I would get squished for that - but I am allowed to consider that helping powerful people often ends up being rewarding in its own right."

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Sigh. "We try. Unfortunately even speculating too hard about how to get anything done in this fuckup of a world is apparently dangerous, so. May be a bit of a delay if we come up with anything at all. I would also like pencil and paper. I'm not the only member of my species and conjuring arbitrary material objects makes a good interdimensional communication system and all it involves doing here is writing."

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"Those can be acquired. If something happens to them on account of the universe guessing you're using them for interdimensional communication - not likely, but technically possible - then please stop and don't try workarounds."

 

And paper and pencils are brought, and a crystal ball, and he arranges for everything else.

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And Cam writes - on paper - by holding a writing utensil - wow, his handwriting has deteriorated -

Attn: peal c/o mailer demon:

If I do not continue to update you at least once a day please attempt dismissal/resummoning. I do not expect to be able to conjure messages to me. This world is fucked up but I have located a local Findekáno -

"- oh hey what did you say your name was, you're not an Elf so I can't assume you're named the usual."

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"Ferardrin."

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"Wait, I thought that was your hubristic uncle's name?"

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"I am named after him, yeah."

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"That's weird. Sorry. Okay." Write write. whose name is Ferardrin, which was also the name of the (died young) local Fëanáro, he's named after him, probably for died young reasons. The Finwë whose name is the same is king of this here country. I couldn't get anything conjuring for alts but I was directed here by the cautionary tale of the Fëanáro, who provoked the universe, which apparently squishes people for a) hubris b) science. Accordingly DO NOT ATTEMPT TO EXTRACT ME VIA ENTERING THIS WORLD. Place broke most of my shit. I have no sorcery, no blessings, no eidetic necklace, and hit-or-miss conjuration I've been warned not to attempt further. Not pushing it on indestructibility. Allspeak's behaving and so is the grace for now (can't tell if that's persistent effect of Loki's grace or if it's Iobel's serving as fallback unless I try something that pushes it on indestructibility...) I have warned the Findekáno about the Melkor who may or may not actually even be here but apparently he'd fit right in with all the other evil gods, isn't that grand. I'm going to fact-find and keep you updated in shortish bursts.

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And he shoots Iris a message asking about protocols for very very anonymous anonymity on the ethernet and explaining the whole situation, and then sends a more formal report to his father.

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And Cam investigates the crystal ball. He kind of likes the crystal ball but it's not as responsive as his computer. Sigh.

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Cam can get a primer on crystal ball use and ethernet access and forums where they might be asking about new evil god activity, and a map of the world so he can point out the places where it's unlikely there's anyone with ethernet and where this evil god might have settled, and some bios of epic adventurers so Cam can decide if he likely fits among their number, and geopolitics (not in much depth, but 'here's this or that kingdom here's the main species living there here's what to expect if you have to fight your evil god there').

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And Cam takes notes. On paper. With a writing utensil. UGH. And he writes attn: peal c/o mailer demon on them. And when he gets tired he says "this is the part where normally I drink a cup of coffee and I'm good to go until the next cup but to play it safe here I should probably actually sleep."

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"By all means. I will have someone show you to your rooms. We are lucky we do not have to play it safe by catering to needs far more exotic than 'sleep'. See you tomorrow."

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"See you."

And Cam goes and sleeps.

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And they search message boards for things that might be evil-god-related for a little while longer, and then sleep themselves.

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And in the morning is there breakfast? ...which Cam doesn't make, wow, that's almost nostalgic.

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There is breakfast! And an intrigued Princess Iris, who introduces herself and is told she also has Elf counterparts though he doesn't know them, particularly.

 

"We always come as the whole family, from Grandfather all down?"

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"I mean, you're missing the cousins you usually have, but yes. I don't actually know off the top of my head if it matches farther back than that. I match parents with those of my alts who have and are brought up by their biological parents, but grandparents diverge some from there. I would be able to tell you if I had my eidetic memory."

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"There might be subtle artists who could get somewhere on retrieving memories?"

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"Yes but also the world already is probably keeping an eye on him. I'd much rather send him home with however interplanar studies people usually do it then try to help reconstruct any of his magic."

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"The standard of memory I need to teleport is 'hold an encyclopedia of gibberish straight without a letter out of place', anyway, can subtle artists do that?"

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"A really really excellent one, maybe."

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"So if the interplanar studies people can send me back where I came from - it's not where I live, it's where the evil god came from, we're hoping he has to obey adjacency like everything else - then somebody can pick me up from there, that'll be fine."

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"And when you're back in a world where your magic functions, you're probably not in a universe that gets upset by hubris and you can plan at your leisure - though he might be able to anyway," he adds to Iris, "he thinks he ought to qualify as epic."

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"Kill some gods?"

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"I don't really like talking about it but yeah."

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"I don't know if achievements in other planes count but they definitely might - I'd expect your evil god is still a god..."

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"Should we expect this to confer him any powers he doesn't usually have?"

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"He's a god, the universe will favor him. If your universe doesn't pick favorites then I suppose that's a new power. ...he could probably grant his clerics divine magic, can gods not do that where you're from?"

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"Not as such, no. - And where I'm from doesn't have gods."

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"Good for where you're from, that sounds positively lovely. We'll definitely notice if a lot of people are clerics of a new god who didn't ascend through events on this plane."

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"Possibly several. I'm concerned that Sauron and anybody else he toted along will count too."

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"What sorts of things could they already do before they got here?"

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"The one killed with the portable solution was dug in hard enough to the continent he lived on that it collapsed into the sea when he died. They're really, really hard to kill. They can shapeshift and do illusions - Sauron's very good at illusions. People on their turf in captivity they can time-dilate their experiences for the torture-hallucination nastiness, and keep them alive when they'd normally die. Sauron turned some humans into werewolves, and Melkor bred some Elves into orcs - reminder that there seems to be glitchiness in translations of species names, here - and as evidenced by the one I'm chasing, interplanar travel is not out of the question. Other gods of the same sort whose accomplishments reflect their own specialties but should benchmark the power level can do things like 'create a sun' and 'listen to people trying to get his attention on any seashore on the planet' and 'collect the souls of the dead of a couple species, read and cloud their memories at his leisure, and bring them back to life if he's having a good ethics day' and 'keep trees alive with nothing but starlight for some reason' and 'make a cool garden that does whatever would be comfiest for the people in it'. Maiar - the lesser grade of godlike thing - come in a very wide range; Sauron's up there, there are ones who can barely do anything."

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"Hard to predict whether the lesser grade counts, then. Upper grade should. At least if his god credits transfer your epic credits also should."

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"Small mercies. Loki's probably even likelier to be epic than I am. What with the literal epics written about her and the more cinematic history. She needs a thing that probably won't work here based on adjacency to kill a Melkor and some stuff that's broken for me to even kill a Sauron, though."

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"It's not exactly about current capabilities, whether you'd be punished for trying. Loki's the alternate and girlfriend you mentioned yesterday?"

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"Yeah. I have a bunch of alts. We are more varied than you guys, as a group; for one thing we have a gender ratio that isn't 'one', and only sometimes have the same parents - Loki's adopted and neither set of her parents matches mine, and Kib's planet doesn't do the concept of parents even on a biological level."

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"I would very much enjoy hearing about all of these worlds and how they work."

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"Sure - let's see how good a map I can draw from memory -" Paper. Pencil. Augh. "Is there by any chance any gossip that may match between alts that I might have learned which I should be cautious with mentioning here?"

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"...I don't know either what kind of thing matches between alts or what kinds of things my alts get up to. I don't think I'd get in trouble for them being hubristic or generically ambitious..."

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"I mean social repercussion kinda things."

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"...I cannot imagine there being social repercussions to what my alts get up to even if they are universally terrible people, and I also imagine they're not, since you came here?"

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"No, your alts are perfectly nice folks even in the universe where everyone else is evil, actually, they're just usually dating their - male - cousins and in some places this would get them in trouble if it got out."

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"...cousin that doesn't exist?"

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"One of those, yes."

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"I might tease him about that, is that a social repercussion? But we don't follow Khersis here or anything."

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"Are the other versions of me going to be like 'you poor thing, no cousin to date' -"

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"Not all of them. For example, the one of you from the universe where everyone is evil, you're an exception, he's not. Also I'm not keeping track of the Space ones and even if I were I'd probably have lost the detail when my necklace stopped working," he taps a node he's just added to the map, "- there's a bunch, they can fork, four of you six of cousin, they broke up and only some forks are reconciled?"

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"...okay. The universe where everyone is evil?"

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"That's where the stray Melkor is from. He's usually evil, it's everybody else that was a surprise. On a population level looking at things like crime rate or whatever this is only about enough to get Elves to 'oddly well behaved if they were humans', but the baseline for Elf populations is 'crime rate: what the fuck is that', so it's startling by comparison and especially alarming when it's alts of people we normally like. Our current suspicion is that the Valar - those being the high-caliber gods including the evil one - are worse than usual and it's all their fault. Like, they usually suck, but in a fumbling well-intentioned how-the-fuck-do-people-work sort of way, and the ones here seem to suck in a flailingly vicious way. It's not a completely satisfactory explanation because there seems to be a lot of ripple effect past the borders of where the Valar themselves intervene very much."

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At this point he's willing to call Cam the weirdest thing that's ever happened, if this is all true. Or even half true. "Being humans and not Elves, are we evil by the standard you're concerned with -"

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"No. Well, I assume not, your other human alts aren't and you don't seem to be. The odd docility of Elf populations is pretty much only the relevant factor on a larger scale; with alts of individuals, who they're an alt of is a better predictor. Except for Evil Arda."

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"So -" he looks at the map - "evil Arda, near us - thus your presence here - space Arda, way over there..."

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Draw draw. "Edda in between, that's where Loki's from - here's Golden's world off Evil Arda - here's Hex, it hooks up to - uhhhh - right okay Hex hooks up to Stork hooks up to Shine and snakes world and snakes world hooks up to, the fuck did Gem name her Arda, Luster? Hooks up to Luster, which hooks up to Wish. And off Space Arda are the daeva worlds - when I'm not on summon I'm in Hell, if I go incommunicado they'll try dismissing my summon - and then off the daeva worlds is Limbo and Revelation, Revelation's where I was born."

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"And science is safe everywhere but here and all the planes we know of?"

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"Yep. Also except for Ardas all these places seem to be void of deities."

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An envious sigh. "Okay. Want the local equivalent talk? The planes we know, our magic, how it works -"

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"Yeah, sure, before or after I summarize the other worlds?"

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"No, go ahead."

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"Aurum has a me and no your-family, the me is nicknamed Golden because she shares her actual name with Gem. Golden runs the vampire shadow government. The planet's an Earth, which is a recurring theme - I'm from one, Gem is too - but not as repetitively as Ardas, all the Earths have different magic. Golden is married to a one-off named Edward and they have a daughter named Elspeth, who had an adventure in Evil Arda armed only with the power of telling the truth really hard."

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"...okay."

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"In addition to vampires and werewolves - not the same kind of werewolves Sauron turned people into - I'm not even sure how this is translating - anyway in addition to that Aurum has individualized, personality-based magic powers some but not all people there get. Elspeth's is telling the truth really hard. If she does it hard enough it kills people, I kid you not, but most of the time she just uses it for communication and being tactlessly informative and these days she also goes around explaining concepts to Valar because they thoroughly cannot absorb information about how incarnates work through normal channels."

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"That sounds useful. Are the Valar - nicer once they know what they're doing? I don't think most of the gods here are bad for that reason in particular..."

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"Valar are... better conversationalists when they know what they're doing. Well, the non-Melkor ones are, this hasn't been tried on a Melkor and probably will not be. By the time we can send Elspeth to tell a set of Valar things like 'it matters to people when things happen' and 'incentives: exist', those Valar are already a little past being useful except we still don't have the soul-collector one beat on efficiently re-embodying dead Elves. They default low-intervention anyway."

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"Explaining how people work to an evil one seems unwise, yes. Okay, so these worlds -" gesturing at the middle links in the map -

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"Daeva worlds! There are three kinds of daeva. I'm a demon -"

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A moment of absolute horror, and then - 

 

 

 

"Uh. Translation error. Probably."

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"Does it go away if I say I'm a 'maker'."

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"...yeah, that's fine. Tell people that - please tell people that."

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"I will tell people that. Are there similar problems with 'angel' or 'fairy'?"

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"Yes, moreso with the second one."

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"Okay, so there are three kinds of daeva, makers and changers and movers, each of us gets our own world. Makers make stuff, changers change stuff, movers move stuff. Movers live in a world that is natively an infinite flat plane with cool plants and landscape features on top, it's very pretty. Changers get infinite glowing cloud fluff stuff in three dimensions forever and they live in fluff caves they hollow out by changing the fluff into other things, pretty much. Where I live when I'm at home is natively nothingness forever but we can fill it up with our making stuff powers. All three kinds of daeva can and do appear spontaneously as adults. A minority of daeva are people who, while alive, human, and being from Revelation or Space Arda - data's not in on non-adjacent-natives - performed at least one summoning, then died. I'm an ex-summoner myself."

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"Summoner?"

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"Daeva can be summoned to adjacent worlds by drawing on the floor in a certain way. Then people can trade with us for stuff."

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"Summoning exists here too."

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"Is it somehow horrifying, or is that unrelated?"

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"Summoning demons is possible and dangerous if you're careless. They do not make arbitrary material objects - though I suppose it is technically possible they'd do that if they were in a science world? I'm not sure - and they will kill a lot of people and perhaps steal their souls if you slip up."

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"Makers have an associated myth about stealing souls but we can't actually do it."

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"Demons very much can. Also summoning demons is evil, it probably affects your afterlife even if they don't get hold of your soul."

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"...noted. Anyway, people from Revelation, but not Space Arda, who die without having summoned any daeva go to Limbo. Limbo is a plane like Fairyland but there's nothing in it, except for Limboites - they get indestructibility but no other powers - and everybody who dies to Limbo gets one thing, which is a non-person thing of some importance to them - usual phrasing is 'whatever they think an afterlife would be most incomplete without'. So they get their dog or something. Limbo things are also indestructible. And Revelation is an Earth, farther forward in the Earth timeline than the others, and summoning is what it's got for magic."

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"So there's an Earth with vampires and werewolves and witchcraft, an Earth with summoning - no other magic on either -"

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"Yup. And the other earth is Wish, over here. Guess what it's got!"

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"Something to do with wishes."

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"Right in one. Wish has several species and for some reason humans are the only one with emotions. Also for some reason emotions can be used as a fuel source. The aliens harvesting them were not very responsible about doing this ethically but Gem, my alt there, managed to negotiate them into stopping that and got their wish-granting mechanism in the bargain. It only works adjacent to Wish but it can also kill Melkors if somebody wishes him dead hard enough."

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"Everything only works adjacent? As in 'a line in between them on this map', or does it have a more complicated meaning...."

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"A line between them on this map. Many things only work adjacent, and all forms of interdimensional travel we've found only take us one hop - Loki can do two hops as long as the middle hop is through Edda. The thing where I can conjure stuff can pull information from farther away as long as I know what worlds I'm scoping over, and Golden has a staffperson who can tell when the best time to do stuff is and that can work on non-adjacent facts too, and most forms of magic - but not the wish thing, and not Loki's godslaying implement - are only found to begin with where they originate but people who have them can go wherever and expect to keep it."

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"Unless our world considers it excessively powerful or developed through excessive experimentation and breaks it."

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"Yep, unless that." Cam writes Danger! Danger! on the relevant node of the map. "Ideally we'll find a route around and - I should shut up there."

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"You're getting the idea. We can pull off a tolerable mortality rate and a good standard of living here, you just have to be - small."

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"Man, I hope I don't have an alt here, the poor thing."

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"How do we check, should we search for your name on the ethernet -"

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"Unless you have a smaller population than I'm expecting that probably won't get you anywhere. Our name consistency is that our first names all have the syllable 'bel' in them, middle names if applicable have an M and an R sound in that order, and surnames if derived from the standard parent set mean 'Swan'; but I can't even show you what the standard girl face looks like - computer's broken illusions are broken I suck at drawing - and it's also not guaranteed to be a face we've seen before - Kib's planet has reincarnation and in his past life he was a girl but didn't look like the other girl ones of us."

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"Our population is indeed far too large to go off that. I could tell you that you're not anyone notable in this kingdom but there are many, and besides it'd be really deeply unwise to be notable and it sounds like you'd take that seriously."

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"The results I'd expect from a me growing up here are 'unremarkable citizen' and 'dead somewhere between the ages of six and seventeen', yes."

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"Let's hope there isn't one. Edda's this world?"

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"Yeah. Edda's crowded. All the worlds we've found so far are inhabited but Edda's the one with literally hundreds of sapient species all scattered around and it has a lot of tech and magic variety but it's poorly integrated so there's lots to do bringing it to the random underdeveloped civilizations too backwater for anyone else to have bothered with. Loki's magic is called sorcery, it's the gibberish encyclopedia thing. She is unique among Bells in having parents but not the usual set; her biological parents are the king and queen of a frost giant planet, and then her adoptive mother decided to kidnap and raise the frost giant princess under an illusion to make her look Asgardian instead with a view towards eventually ending the war with a puppet queen inculcated with Asgardian values on the frost giant throne. Loki's, uh, sort of cooperating with the broad strokes of this plan at this time in the sense that she does mean to wind up ruling the frost giants and ending the ancestral war between the two planets. Loki's also coming up on two millennia old, Asgardians - and she was very convincingly passed off as one to everyone including herself for a long time - age really really slowly."

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"So far there's this pattern that most Bells - but not this one or this one -" he taps Hex and Aurum, "that one stayed home and this one it was her daughter instead, but most of us somehow wind up in an Arda, and then contribute to ending the war with the local Melkor. Loki's was this one -" He draws in Elentári. "But to finish the job she had to write her teleportation spell to get back to Edda and pick up a thing called the Tesseract, which is one of a family of six artifacts which do scary shit but will totally kill you if you pick one up and it doesn't like you. The Tesseract likes her, so she grabbed it and killed Elentári's Melkor. She also cleaned up the mess I wound up making in Space Arda for me about which I would prefer not to go into further detail it is not a secret I just don't like talking about it and there's no one else here to pass the buck to. Uh, Space Arda is similar in - content - to regular Ardas, complete with Valar and everything, but it's spread out across several planets and they're lower-magic and much higher-tech. I think I mentioned they can duplicate themselves? Do you have like - fictional concepts or possibly actual magic of people being able to be condensed into information and, I don't know, run on crystal balls or anything like that -?"

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"No but I can follow the - idea - sounds really dangerous -"

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"It is. But a bunch of people there decided they wanted there to be more of them so now there are four of Space You and various numbers of other Space Persons. The yous were going by letters of the alphabet, it was terrible, Loki complained and got her Maitimo that being the name of the eldest cousin-you-don't-have to name them all things that were less terrible. Your name doesn't match your alts so it'll do on its own for the time being, I guess."

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"Good, I'd be reluctant to change it. Higher tech meaning - science fantasy stuff -"

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"...is science fantasy stuff like 'spaceships and science working right and so on'?"

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"Yes."

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"You may reasonably summarize Space Arda as Science Fantasy Arda. I mean, science works in the other Ardas too but they get from place to place in boats or on horses or whatever instead, so."

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"And in the science fantasy Arda they have - spaceships and non-magic flight and so on-"

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"Yes they do. First thing they wanted me to do when I showed up was make spaceships so they could get from one planet to another planet so they could help with the war."

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"Cool. 

 

That leaves this patch of worlds -" gesturing at Stork and its neighbors -

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"Yeah! Okay, Stork's weird. Its magic system is called servantmaking and there's five ways to make 'servants' that then do what whoever made them wants; these can be mechanical or magically animated or patches of light or literal animals. People don't reproduce there. Instead babies appear in random wilderness locations. People find them, or, since my alt there invented stork golems, the stork golems find them and bring them to population centers. They don't do parenting, even adoptive parenting - not as a social institution, anyway, now and then smaller numbers of people than 'the entire staff of a creche' will have a few kids in a non-apprenticeship context but by default no. My alt there is currently named Kib; in his past life he was a girl and named Aly. Reincarnation works sort of like alts except when a new incarnation is about fifteen they start getting dreams of their past life - waking memories past age fourish only, a few hours a night - and the dreams slot into place as memories once they wake up. So, when Kib was not yet clear that this was a genuine phenomenon, that Aly had existed and been him and so on, he got eaten by a snake monster from here," tap, "we're not totally sure how it got into Stork, maybe they're cannibals or something, anyway the kind of monster lands you in an adjacent world when it eats you and he landed in Shine, his Arda. He got there earlier than any of us - the Ardas are all on different schedules."

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"...yeah, okay, that's weird."

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"Yup. What ratio of social gossip to history-of-war-and-stuff do you want here -?"

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"...I won't deny I'm curious, but it's entirely 'curious', can't think why it'd be necessary for helping find a you if there is one or getting a sense of the world beyond our planes..."

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"I actually find 'how alts work' to be one of the things it's most useful to have a sense of for figuring out the worlds thing but yeah, I'll keep it concise. So Kib shows up and the you is as usual dating the Maitimo and they both crush on him and wind up in an adorable triad and then Kib belatedly dreams that Aly was married. Aly died young, her husband is still alive."

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"Oh dear. Okay."

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"Yep. Fortunately Kib landed early enough that it was peacetime and the Valar had by the occasion of this dream been prevailed upon to do something actually useful! There were Shine-to-Stork portals! Kib went and found his husband, Aydanci - also a one-off, no alts - and the husband said he could keep his boyfriends and that was fine and they all went back to Valinor and all was well until Melkor murdered Aydanci and destroyed the shiny trees most Ardas use in place of suns and went back to being openly evil. He'd been on parole, see, because the Valar."

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"Gods," he agrees.

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"Yep. So they found Aydanci reincarnated - most people on Stork don't reincarnate, they're not sure why the two of them, but Aydanci did - and gave him to a nice set of Elf parents and went to war, heavily aided and abetted by servantmaking. It is fairly typical in these wars for Maitimos to get captured by Melkors - that happened - it is not typical for Bells to, but that happened the once and it was here so if you meet Kib and he's a little off that's why. But between Aydanci-grown-up-again and the alt of your uncle they put together something that can kill a Melkor. The continent collapsed, but he's good and dead, and it runs on things that don't stop working out-of-neighborhood. I was planning to find the runaway Melkor, go fetch the items in question, and drop them on him."

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"Won't work."

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"If he's in your neighborhood yeah I'm getting that sense."

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"If he's around here you're probably going to have to do it with local magic and definitely going to have to do it without powerful imported artifacts."

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"...okay, maybe I hope there is an alt of me, we can whisk them away and provide them with cocoa and Iobel's cat and a physics textbook and when they've shaken the mothballs out of their brain we can get a good rundown on how things work here. No offense I'm sure you know what you're doing but Bells synergize really well."

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"I imagine so but it'd also be deeply unwise of him or her to have gone into wizardry, most of my family took the chance but being royalty gives you a little latitude to think highly of yourself and it's not a career with a great life expectancy."

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"Oh, yeah, I don't expect them to be a wizard, I expect them to be able to figure out exactly what the gaps in understanding between a Bell native and a Bell visitor here are, explain wizardry and the necessary margin of safety on the hubris and science things in two paragraphs or less so that we can move confidently within those parameters, guess what imports might or might not work, tell us what to look for to find the wizards we need, etcetera. After some quality time with Iobel's cat and a physics textbook. - I think I skipped Iobel. Iobel's from Hex which is the only world with a native your-family and a Bell both. Magic is called spellbinding, they can do six spells a day or one big one, in order to do any magic you have to turn your imaginary friend who isn't actually imaginary into a real solid critter-person, Iobel has a cat who hates virtually everyone but likes Bells and is very soft."

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"Sounds lovely. Okay, until we have an alt of you or a productive avenue to searching for one:

Experimenting isn't safe, trying something and noticing it works and then continuing to do it is safe, most things do work reliably enough for us to have the ethernet and crystal balls but trying to derive regularities about what the universe will break is itself a bad idea. You can experiment more on things with no combat applications, most of our world's defensiveness is about people finding exploits to get more powerful. Likewise most things that'll break will be things that make you powerful, things that were developed using science but that couldn't be used in a fight are probably fine. Hubris isn't generally a thought-crime thing, you'd have to do something like challenge someone unreasonably powerful or go around proclaiming the universe can't touch you. Planning how to break or evacuate or radically alter our world should happen outside our world.

What else would you need to know?"

 

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"I don't know, that's the thing, I would expect another Bell to be able to tell me what you just told me but in a - clickier way? This is good enough to be going on with though. So it'd probably be safe to make my own paper and food and stuff, but not weapons, and definitely not direct interpolation?"

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"No weapons. And direct interpolation?"

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"I can make stuff inside other stuff. If I do this finely enough..."

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"That will certainly be broken as combat-exploitable, yes. Logistics are a gray area - if you make food for yourself you should be okay, if you make food for an army I'd have a hard time predicting what'd happen."

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"Loki can hit things with sharp objects - I mean she'd still need the grace spell to work, it's a template feature that we're really clumsy until we get that fixed - but she has hitting things with sharp objects experience, she'd have way better luck than me if dropped into a fight under these conditions. I suppose I will have to avoid being in fights."

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"If you stay in public well-lit areas on the paths you are likely to be safe. If you wander off the paths there are things that'll eat you, particularly at night. That's not even considering the evil god problem, obviously. Palace is fine and we can send you out with an escort as needed."

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"I flew here and nothing bothered me... and my wings didn't spontaneously stop working..."

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"You are unfamiliar and look like you might be frighteningly powerful! Wise people and monsters will not mess with something unfamiliar and possibly extremely powerful."

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"Little do they know I am but a vestige of my usual glory?"

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"Little can they count on it, anyway. Do you want magic systems next or a rundown of the local powerful things?"

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"Let's start with local powerful things."

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"Gods! We have dozens, some of them more or less powerful than others, people can ascend to godhood through sufficient combat exploits but the majority of gods are not former people. 'God' is a power level and a way the universe looks at you. They can grant their clerics divine magic, some of them can also do other things, all of them will kill you if you mispronounce their names, to the point where 'can enforce name pronunciation' is a perfectly good heuristic for godhood. Except for your Melkor their names all have the sound 'Kh' - Khersis is the most popular with humans around here -"

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"...guesses on how that interacts with translation magic?"

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"Probably safe but why risk it, there won't be much need to discuss them by name."

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"Well, it'd come up because I don't want to touch my translation magic including by turning it off or fiddling with its settings, so if right now the name of a god is garbled in some way the way it's set up... but I'll just avoid naming them."

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"Probably safer. Dragons. They come in two kinds, 'noble' and 'ignoble' - the noble dragons are the metallic ones, gold and silver and bronze - none of them are good, they'll all kill people for petty reasons, but noble ones will keep their word if they give it, so - evil but trustworthy."

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"...okay. Oh, uh, Valar and Maiar have that too, if they say they swear something that binds them, but you have to be sure they literally actually say it out loud, if they do it by telepathy or illusion sound or something it doesn't work. - And speaking of the telepathy, they're telepathic, so are the Elves - Space Elf telepathy only works with themselves but the others work with anybody - and by default they can read thoughts unless they're designated private, generally by some kind of metaphor you sort your thoughts into."

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"Palace has a subtle artist shielding us right now, but that'll be good to know if we go off-world to meet them."

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"No idea how subtle arts will interact with this."

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"Let me finish dangerous things and then we'll get to magic systems." Dangerous things! There are a lot of dangerous things! Iris sometimes interjects. 

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What a fuck of a lot of dangerous things. "I'm sorry if I scared people by looking like a dangerous thing."

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Shrug. "I prefer dangerous things that look it to dangerous things that don't, honestly."

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"That is reasonable but I still don't like frightening people."

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"If it seems strategic we can vouch for your friendliness. Magic?"

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"Do tell."

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"Three kinds. Subtle arts technically isn't magic - doesn't show up in magic detection - but I take it it's unique to here. You're born with the aptitude or you aren't, and some species don't have anyone with the aptitude. It permits reading minds or shielding minds against reading, altering memories or affect or associations, it's possible to use it to condition people to do or not to do things, or to make it impossible to form an intention. The latter of those take a long time and subtle artists doing it without consent get identified and shut down fairly quickly. They also sometimes have telekinesis. 

Arcane magic is the basis of wizardry and several other disciplines; you cast spells from scrolls until you learn them and then can cast them at will, though you only have so much mana - it increases with practice, and regenerates when you're resting - and until you've been practicing for a long time you don't have the mana for powerful spells. It's safe to cast spells you learn from someone, it's not safe to experiment with gestures or spell components and see if you can get more powerful. Anyone can learn a very simple spell in a couple of hours but if you're new to it you won't have much mana. You can also work arcane magic through music; I do that.

Divine magic is granted by a god, usually - there are secular druids but not an explanation for how they get their powers without one - and there's some overlap with arcane but it does things like healing and resurrection, the former of which is hard with arcane magic and the latter not possible as far as we know."

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"I should not 'just pick up some wizardry while I'm here'," Cam says. "...it's funny you do magic music, Ardas - Flat Ardas, those being the ones that aren't Space Arda - have magic music and Elves sing a lot."

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"Learning a cantrip is generally a safe thing to do, but I respect erring on the side of safety."

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"I mean, if there's a cantrip that would be intrinsically useful to know for me, I might be able to stop there, but I definitely shouldn't learn some as a curiosity or on general pick-up-stray-magic-one-finds-lying-around principle."

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Or so he can go teach everyone in other worlds. "If you find yourself inconvenienced you can mention it and I will let you know if there's a cantrip for that inconvenience."

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"Hey, Cam, is 'bunch of people in the Imperium have disappeared' the sort of thing your evil god might pull?"

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"Yes. Have a bunch of people in the Imperium disappeared."

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"This is, like, not the most reliable source in the world, but let's say rumor has it that a bunch of people in the Imperium have disappeared."

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"Any details on how they went?"

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"Consensually, it looks like: someone offered to summon them to a nicer place, some people went through and confirmed the niceness of the place, more people went through. Some of them left letters telling their friends not to worry..."

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"That's not really his standard modus operandi but it's not beyond, like, Sauron..."

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"And if it's Sauron, they are probably not in a nice place one writes home about to convince their friends to come?"

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"Oh, they might be, for now. A Sauron was the democratically elected ruler of a country, I don't think he even rigged it - the humans and werewolves in Elentári liked him fine till Loki stepped in and told them what was going on - but if it's Sauron they are not in circumstances conducive to longer-term flourishing."

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"That's not enough to take to the emperor of the Imperium."

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"No, but we could get travel papers and go investigate - it doesn't sound like the site they're disappearing from is dangerous -"

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"Might be worth doing."

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"I'll run it by my father. It's a week's travel from here unless it's urgent on that time scale, in which case we can spend half the budget on rings of teleport and have the Imperium annoyed with us for popping in."

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"How long have people been disappearing for?"

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"Couple months, looks like."

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"...I'm not sure how to weigh Imperial annoyance here nor do I know how tight your budget is."

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"The budget will not be ripped from the hands of starving orphans or anything, though we'd better not die on this misadventure because three rings of teleport and three resurrections would in fact empty the royal treasury - metaphorical emptying, most of the world uses fiat currency - Imperial annoyance is not going to cause a war but might complicate enlisting Imperial aid against the evil god."

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"It's... unlikely to be scale-of-a-week urgent. It may not even be them and if it is they're still Ainur, they still work slowly."

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"Then I'll ask my father to authorize some fact-finding by carriage and I'll write to the Imperium and we'll probably have approval by the time we reach the border unless they know what's going on and don't want outsiders near it."

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Nod. Sigh.

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"Can you think of a way to demonstrate to my father that you know alternate universe versions of us in a world where my uncle lived, that'll make it easier to get approval -"

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"...not an obvious way? I don't know what he'd find convincing..."

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"Anything you know about our alternate versions that wouldn't be common knowledge to our people, maybe?"

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"I mean, you don't have any way to verify any of that. And I'm not sure he's going to be delighted to hear about how estranged he and his half-brother typically are."

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"It's not 'delighted' I'm aiming for, it's 'reasons to give this any credence'."

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"I can do my best. Harder without the eidetic memory - I'm not close personal friends with any of you..."

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"I'll convey what I've been told, it's just that this is - difficult to believe - 'he says he's epic but does not want to talk about it' doesn't generally impress - and while it makes sense that this particular evil god would be your primary priority, there are enough evil gods that we don't habitually turn our resources towards trying to stop them. We would if it could make any difference."

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"I can explain the circumstances under which I killed some gods but it's not going to make you more favorably disposed. And yeah, I'm getting that there's a bigger problem here than one Melkor; he's the one I know something about how to fight him, is all, I'd be starting below local baseline trying to figure out the others."

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"I think it's utterly reasonable for you to prioritize him, and given the truth of anything you said for us to assist you in any way we can, but - absent that, if we were the sort of people to ride off to fight him we'd also be the sort of people who'd be dead. I know what an annoying constraint that is."

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"It's okay."

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"If you don't think the circumstances under which you killed some gods will avail us any here, I won't ask, but I am struggling to imagine how I'd end up thinking worse of you - we don't expect any particular altruism from epic-level adventurers..."

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"There was - a lot of collateral damage."

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"Was it avoidable?"

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"If I'd waited longer we would maybe have found Loki anyway and she could've fixed it. But I didn't know that. And waiting would've made it worse."

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"A lot of collateral damage on the order of -"

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"Fifty-five million people died.

I put most of them back. Loki put the rest of them back later."

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"Damn. Let's hope this one goes better. Sorry for bringing up an upsetting subject."

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"It's okay. It's, you know, relevant. And they're all alive now."

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"I'm very glad. It sounds like it was worth it, and if you're epic that'll help a lot in this world too, so - may as well use that god-fighting license of yours. I'll go explain the whole situation to my father."

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"Okay. Anything else you want to know?"

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"If you happen to think of anything that'd help demonstrate you know alternate versions of us, that'd be great, but I take it that's not straightforward even if you had the memory necklace."

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"Not exactly. Uh, Fëanáros usually invent things? In Flat Ardas that means, like, 'writing', in Space Arda it's more like 'faster than light travel' - spaceshippier spaceships, pretty much - in Hex it's like 'magic healing fountain spell'."

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"Yep. Ours famously died trying. Several times."

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"And they're good at languages. Elf ones can pick up a new language from exposure in like, a day. I think the human one takes six weeks? Or did before the eidetic memory, he's probably faster now."

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"I can ask about that, don't know."

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"I probably know more trivia but I don't have it organized in such a way as to prove my credentials, this not being how I usually do that."

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"Yes, understood. You can bring it up later if you think of anything. My father'll probably want to talk to you himself anyway."

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"Sure thing."

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He does, in fact, want to talk to him. Ideally with a spell to confirm he's telling the truth, if Cam's all right with that. Ferardrin conveys this.

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If that's all the spell does, okay.

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That is all the spell does.

"This is a very welcome complication," Nolan says to him, "and if by learning sooner of this evil god we can do more about him - or more quickly get the attention of someone who can - it is well worth it. Can you tell us that you've been truthful with my son and daughter, or if not, speak to the truth of the claim there are alternate dimension versions..."

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"Outside flippancy, summary, misremembering things, and other elisions without deceptive intent I have been truthful with them."

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"Okay. Do you want an escort to the Imperium to investigate, and if so who do you want?"

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"It seems like having a relatively more native guide would help, especially since I scare people, and either of the two of them would be fine or if they're indispensable someone else will do."

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"There are no domestic crises at the moment, I can spare Iris, and she's the one who's learned a sending spell to keep us updated if you can't find a cafe to amail us anyway."

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"Ethernet cafés. Wonders never cease. Okay, cool, thank you."

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"That is particularly unusual?"

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"No, that's what's so weird about it, it's eerily parallel to a thing on Earths."

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"Hmmm. Maybe convergent economic incentives in human populations will produce societies that look sort of similar regardless of the source of the technology or magic, or maybe something is fucking with us. In Materia it's usually the latter but Earths I'm told have that problem less."

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"Earths do have that problem less, but it's already weird that Earths match so well when they each have different and secret underlying magic systems, I guess."

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"I would be fascinated to read a book about all of this, but perhaps some other time. Carriage tomorrow, or would you prefer to leave today?"

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"Whichever's convenient for Iris."

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"Ask her how she is on mana, go tomorrow if she's not going to be ready for a fight."

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"Makes sense."

And how is Iris on mana?

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"Set to go. Unless we want to do any more research before we do, ethernet's hard to come by on the road."

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"If you can't think of anything in particular to look up, I can probably pick up just as much background information on the world from talking to you as I could from the ethernet."

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"Fair enough." A carriage is called. "I'm surprised we don't have a standard summary for extraplanar visitors, actually."

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"Do you get many?"

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"Concept's not unheard of, though usually they're from worlds that run on the same fundamental principles as ours? I have never heard of anyone who needed an explanation about experimenting. Summoning's sort of different circumstances, there are accidents but mostly within the local set of planes..."

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"I wonder why your neighborhood all has this property. ...I hope it's not contagious."

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"...yeah.

If practically nothing stretches to adjacent dimensions then I can't see why that would be the exception. ...though you did say we're adjacent to the unusually evil Arda?"

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"You are. Science works there as normal. We don't know how adjacency is established or how worlds start, though, it may be that the unscience worlds are all clustering together after... deciding to be anti-science... for some reason..."

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"I mean, the reason's pretty clear. The universe is aware when it's being poked and resents it. It's shy. As you like. The accidents that you get if you try sophisticatedly dangerous stuff is consistent with someone pulling the strings who hates it when people do that. So unless universes that aren't sentient or don't mind can become ones that are and do..."

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"I guess. The Ardas are all run by this mostly noninterventionist metadeity but he seems okay with what we get up to, so far... no sign of anybody running the show elsewhere."

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"Lucky you. ...though tons of worlds turning out weirdly similar suggests someone running the show, no? Maybe people have a more sophisticated way of thinking about this in worlds where you can do science."

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"There are limitations on doing science like 'can we fiddle with any of the dials and see what happens' and we don't know how to manufacture worlds, affect adjacency in any way, etcetera, so we haven't gotten anywhere on that."

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"Huh. Well, I hope we're not contagious. Any examples of worlds changing adjacency?"

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"No - and the Tesseract was extremely disgruntled to learn there were worlds it couldn't reach, which suggests Edda has not had any new neighbors or lost any old ones in its lifetime, which is very long."

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"I think that's good news, right? More regularities means more you can count on being able to do."

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"Pretty much, yes, we don't have to worry about anybody losing an adjacency and being unable to get to the rest of us, say."

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"And this is the first world you've hopped into that broke your stuff?"

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"Yeah. I mean, Gem had a bit of a scare when she left the Wish neighborhood and her wish thing didn't work, but nothing else spontaneously failed, this is the worst case of that."

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"Our apologies for having such an inconvenient world!"

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"I don't think it's your fault."

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"I mean no, not personally? Still sucks. 

 

So what makes a world an Earth or an Arda, same geography? Same people?"

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"And same history. Ardas all have the same set of Valar making the same set of stupid decisions, Earths all have the same set of countries and series of wars and so on."

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"And we usually show up on Ardas?"

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"Except for here and Hex, all instances of your family are Arda natives, yes."

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"And same personalities and everything?"

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"Modulo different things happening to them, yes. You're usually best friends with Cousin You Don't Have number... three? I think he's three."

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"I don't tend to get that depressed over my uncle dying, it was a long time ago, but hearing about all these relationships that should have existed is a little weird. Are they all like my uncle? The sort of people who'd have gotten themselves killed here?"

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"The cousins? Uh, not as much? One of them I forget which number he is is basically exactly like his dad only slightly less so, so he'd probably have fared as badly, but the others could perhaps survive the place."

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"How many are there?"

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"He has seven sons, and in Shine one day he whimsically adopted a random baby girl from Stork and therefore also has a daughter."

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"That's kind of a lot. How many surviving?"

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"In the unaffected Arda plot the youngest one dies early in the war - and so does their dad - the others all live as far in as we've seen it play out."

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"What a nice world."

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"It's not how I'd make one. Although I'll give the Valar this, they really know their ecological management, we keep stealing the Valinor ecosystem for terraforming purposes."

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"I just mean, like, the odds seven even mildly ambitious kids - sometimes eight - all grow up and there's a war with an evil god and they mostly all make it through -"

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"Well, the eldest does routinely get captured and tortured, he just gets rescued. And remember that ambition is not particularly dangerous in itself these places. Recklessness is but that's different."

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"By the evil god we're going off to see if we can find?"

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"That's the one. Although this instance of Melkor never caught the relevant Maitimo. I'm not planning to confront him like this, just see if it's likely to be him or not on closer inspection."

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"I wasn't under the impression this was safe, but having something a scripted feature of wars is more - upsetting somehow - than just having it often happen."

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"That one we don't even manage to avert by just showing up. Loki appeared after the capture - Gem appeared after the rescue - but I got there before, Kib did too..."

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"Kinda terrifying. Every single time?"

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"Evil Arda's skipped it. Being evil screwed with the history enough, I guess. And mine and Kib's got captured in different ways - in Elentári and Luster there was a parley thing that they went to and got captured at, I navigated my parley carefully enough that no captures occurred and Kib omitted it - but then mine was a casualty of a massacre of a city and Kib's was lured into an elaborate trap - we think he's going after the Maitimos in particular for some reason."

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"Is there an obvious reason?"

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"There is a thousand year period where the Melkors are on parole in Valinor, so they have an opportunity to know everybody personally, and Maitimos are very effective politician types; unclear whether the aim was to take them out of action or subvert them in some way which was interrupted."

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"Well, lucky my nonexistent cousin, I guess."

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"Loki's very attached to hers. She rescued him before the associated Findekáno got to it and feels responsible for him. And Kib's dating his, of course. Mine was forked from a pre-capture instance so they're not traumatized."

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"I am definitely going to tell my brother that if no one else gets around to it he rescues his cousin-who-he's-sleeping-with from the fortress of an evil god, so habitually that this is not even surprising in new Ardas."

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"One of the Valar sends him a giant eagle to fly away on! It's like one of the only times Valar do anything useful in the war!"

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"That's very much the sort of thing Materian gods would do. Though divine magic is reliable and helpful."

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"In Shine's case it was a pterodactyl instead, because thanks to Kib they had domesticated dinosaurs available and he could fly in and out."

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"So in the ones without a means of flight he - just walks in? To an evil god's fortress?'

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"While singing. I think he intended it to be a suicide mission to perform a mercy kill."

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"Khersis. That's the most horrible sort of cute thing I've ever heard."

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"Isn't it just. It's only played out quite like that in Luster but we're assuming that any standard Arda left unattended would have wound up the same because Luster looks like it started with the usual initial conditions and wasn't interfered with until recently."

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"No standard Ardas left unattended yet?"

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"I mean, once we find the place by definition it's not unattended and we're not going to leave a Melkor running amok as an observational case study."

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"Found after the war's resolved itself one way or the other without extradimensional intervention?"

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"Nope, none found after when Luster was."

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"If these disappearances turn out to be him what're you gonna do?"

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"The good news is he has no way to identify me. He met Loki, but we don't look alike; he met Elspeth but at the time Elspeth didn't know that her mom had alts, let alone that we come in boy. I will look like a random curious person, not like I'm here to wreck his shit. So I gather the intel I can, I write it down, and at that point maybe they try dismissing me out."

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"And we let people continue accepting this lovely emigration offer?"

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"If there seems to be a good avenue to warn them off it we can do that, but if he's actually behind it I find it unlikely he's committed to waiting for permission anyway."

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"Right, good point. Well, then we'd have enough to take to the Emperor, probably."

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"What sorts of things do emperors do about kidnapper evil gods, here?"

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"The Imperium has access to some very heavy hitters. This'd be a bad country to start in if you were hoping to swallow a country without anyone noticing, don't know if that's evidence it's not him or just that he has other plans. I expect they'd bribe some noble dragons and some epic adventurers to have a go? That's how we'd handle it, though with less desirable bribes."

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"All right."

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"If you've got a better idea we're all ears."

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"I don't. We don't have any mechanisms for doing stuff to or in worlds without being in them. It has not previously been a problem, but here it means local solutions may actually be it."

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"Well, at least we got a little forewarning and have magic that can in principle kill gods."

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"Yeah. Sorry I can't just sail in and fix it like I meant to."

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"Trust me, we'd have been delighted if you'd taken out all the dragons and half the deities and then landed to say 'want to meet the family you never had'? It's okay. This works."

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"Fingers crossed."

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"If it doesn't work we're no worse off because of you."

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"I mean, we did kind of chase him off in the first place. In Space Arda the Sauron had a deadman switch - so this one, Loki went and said hello first, to see if he'd give her a reason not to kill him - and off he went."

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"But, like, he was already doing evil stuff, just somewhere else, right?"

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"It was toned down. Elspeth had talked him into a ceasefire. But yes."

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"Terms of the ceasefire don't extend here?"

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"They extend to a couple kingdoms in Evil Arda. Extending them here would involve Evil Maitimo - or possibly Evil Thingol but he's even less likely to be cooperative - declaring potential victims to be his subjects, which I imagine would have political complications and we're not sure how thin the claim can be to work."

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"The countries are still run by the evil versions of people? I think I was kind of imagining a coup."

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"It's complicated. On a political, population level, it really isn't worse than the typical human population, they're just disturbing because we know what they're like when they're not evil. Although Thingols suck by default."

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"Is my alt evil?"

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"Probably? I'm not sure. She did get along with Elspeth, but Elspeth speaks lovingly of multiple serial killers."

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"Guess I can imagine being a serial killer if magically evil and sufficiently pissed off."

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"I honestly don't know if your alt is evil or not. Not everyone has been checked out individually. Most people there are and the only exception I remember hearing about is the Findekáno but maybe it's a family trait and your alt is also fine."

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"How do you know he's not?"

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"Nonevil Maitimo investigation. They're very good at people."

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"Useful."

It's five days' travel to the border and a day's tedious waiting there - she amails home with updates - and then two more to the site of the disappearances.

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Cam faithfully writes updates to the peal twice daily.

And has anybody here been corresponding with the disappearers, since they seem so polite about it? And yes, some people are uncertain about being disappeared and accordingly have not been disappeared yet. They are being invited to travel to a science fantasy plane and join a colony there. Some of them have heard from their friends and family members who have already disappeared. They are advised not to travel back and forth, because being in a science fantasy plane and doing any amount of science fantasy there may make staying in the prime material unsafe.

"...This isn't absolutely out of Sauron's repertoire," Cam tells Iris, "but it's - stylistically off."

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"Can you describe what the difference is?"

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"If it were Sauron I'd expect there to have been visits from people purporting to be friends and family members who went. Visual illusions aren't difficult for him and they're having conversations already so he'd be hypothetically doing a satisfactory job at impersonating their personalities and knowledge and so on. Science fantasy also seems like weird bait. It's bait that is uniquely appealing here as opposed to anywhere else; but it'd be easier to claim, say, post-scarcity paradise or political utopia, since Sauron probably knows many science facts but doesn't come from a world with a high tech level."

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"So, talk with the people who are doing the disappearing?"

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"Yeah, I think so."

All of the communication is disappearer-initiated, but Cam indicates that he might wish to be disappeared if he had more details - well, he might! - and after a few days a disappearer gets back to him on that.

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Hello! This is Rúmil; I help manage immigration and construction on our new world. I imagine you have a lot of questions?

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Lots. How sure are you that it would be dangerous for people to come back here for visits?

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Not sure at all. There is one instance of someone returning from a science fantasy world after having done a lot of science; everything she'd developed with it broke, but she was very careful not to do any science in the prime material, or anything risky or objectionable at all, and she did not die. There were other considerations at play in that instance and we are not eager to repeat it, but while we strongly advise immigrants to remain here it is possible they could return without being killed if they were sufficiently cautious.

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Other considerations?

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The gods of the plane she'd arrived on promised to protect her when she went back. It is unclear whether they did that successfully.

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Why'd she come back?

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She was exiled from that science fantasy plane. That is a different one than this one which is currently accepting immigrants. This one has no gods and no one will send you back.

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It's a little surprising that you've been whisking people away and none of them have changed their minds and gone home.

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We have worked very hard to build a nice world here, and most people do not want to take the risk that they'd be killed should they return. People miss their families, but they can often persuade them to emigrate also.

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What's the place like, besides science fantasy? How's it structured?

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This universe has many civilizations on many different worlds. We started this project on an unoccupied world with the help of a nearby one, who has now decided to join us in creating a federation of planets which has more interventionist inclinations than the largest extant such federation. The largest extant federation is post-scarcity and accepts immigrants; if anyone does not like how this planet is governed they could travel there. 

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In a spaceship?

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Yes!

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How do those work?

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I don't know enough science to build one myself, yet, but T'Mir has one and we can buy others from people who do know how they work. And if you come here, you can take lessons in science and engineering and eventually be able to develop and build your own spaceships.

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Who's T'Mir?

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T'Mir is native to the world we're summoning you to and was a surveyor for the Federation before they imprisoned her for giving technology to insufficiently developed civilizations, which is against their rules. After we broke her out of prison she became involved in this colony effort and she is one of the rulers of the planet and helps us interface with the Federation and other local institutions.

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One of the rulers?

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The other is a native to the prime material and the Imperium. She's the one I mentioned who returned to the prime material from a science world and didn't get eaten. 

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What'd she get exiled for?

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She was causing our gods considerable stress and they reacted very badly.

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Oh? How do you stress gods?

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Our world is paced very slowly. All its inhabitants are immortal. She landed, reverse engineered a lot of wizardry as soon as she learned experiments were safe and possible, taught a lot of people wizardry, invented a lot of magic items, and was very influential on our, um, hotheaded crown prince. There were some prophecies that he was going to commit a lot of horrible crimes and they got panicked that in working with him so closely, she was going to enable him to do a lot more damage when he did. 

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Do she or the hotheaded crown prince have names.

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Bella, and Fëanáro.

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I would like to talk to Bella, can that be arranged?

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Certainly. I'll check if she's busy. Hold on one moment, please.

 

Bella?

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Yeah?

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Talking to someone who wants to emigrate. It's an odd conversation, he's asking unusual questions, and when he heard your name he asked to talk to you in particular. Are you free?

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I can put this down. Unusual like how?

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Suspicious that no one's gone back yet, asked if I could tell him how spaceships are built, asked what you got exiled for, when I told the story asked 'do she or the hotheaded crown prince have names' and then asked for you.

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That's very weird. Did he say why he wanted to talk to me in particular?

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No. I can tell him you're busy and ask some more questions, if you'd prefer.

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I would like to know why me in advance, other than that I'm happy to talk to him.

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Thank you for waiting. Bella can speak with you in a minute but would like to know why you want to talk to her in particular.

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Iiii'm concerned it will sound insane and I don't have a good way to verify that it's not insane to a third party.

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He relays this.

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Tell him in my day job I talk to insane people all the time and it's not going to disqualify him.

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Bella is a therapist and says to tell you that in her day job she talks to insane people all the time and it will not disqualify you.

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...a therapist. That's weird.

...fine. My name is Campbell Mark Swan, I am not from the prime material plane, and I think she's an alternate universe version of me.

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Oh. You know, I don't know why we were assuming they would all be girls. Okay, I'll put her on in a second.

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Wait what.

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T'Mir and Bella are alternate universe versions of the same person. We figured there were more but we were quite occupied with evacuating Materia and hadn't yet got around to developing a spell to go and find them.

 

And to Bella he conveys the declaration of Campbell Mark Swan that he thinks he's 'another Bella', as Fëanáro would put it.

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Oh. Uh, well, I'm in touch with another five of us but when I came here I got a little stuck because this plane's all weird. We are mostly girls, two exceptions.

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Huh. I guess that would sound pretty weird if we didn't know about T'Mir already.

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Yes, I suppose it would. And he pops over and hands her the earwire. 

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"Thanks." Hi?

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Hi! Welcome to the club of Bells Who Have Landed In Ardas And Fucked With Them.

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Is this a pattern?

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Yep! Not universal but definitely a pattern. Uh, there are alts of Fëanáro's family here, FYI. His own alt is not alive here, he didn't cope well with the place, but his father and half-siblings and their kids.

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Oh boy. Okay, uh, we'll have to address that - can you give me names so I can call them -

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Hang on, let me get a more complete list.

"Hey Iris guess what."

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"You're smiling so - not Sauron."

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"Not Sauron!"

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"Awesome! ...something better than not Sauron, huh?"

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"Pretty sure it's two of my alts who have found each other and started evacuating the world. One of them at least swung through an Arda first."

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"Wow. Well, good for your alts."

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"My alts are great. I'm totally going to solicit disappearing, but she wants names for all your relatives so she can call you."

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So she lists all her relatives.

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And Cam relays them to Bella. If you'd like to further verify my identity before disappearing me, I am happy to oblige.

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...Yeah, go on a bit please.

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So Cam recites the three questions and talks about the standard set of Bell parents and the clumsiness trait and guesses the name of her hometown and knows Arda Facts which would have been hard to come by in Materia.

To Iris: "I assume you don't want to come along?"

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"We'll probably pick someone to go through and investigate but probably not me, yeah."

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"Okay. Keep an eye out for anything else that could be suspicious evil god activity but this was apparently the best false alarm ever."

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"I'm glad. Go have fun meeting up with your alternate selves."

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"I will!"

And he solicits disappearing

and he disappears.

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And he appears in a city built to Eldarin sensibilities with 22nd-century tech, which should not be entirely unfamiliar, and Bella standing with Rúmil and a child who looks about five, and a lovely vaguely alien sky overhead. 

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"Hi!" says Cam. "...Apparently merely landing here did not fix all my stuff."

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"What kinda stuff?"

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"Most relevantly, the eidetic memory necklace that lets me teleport. That's made with Arda-type magic, but it took a Fëanáro like a decade and a half to invent and I don't even have any hints to speed it along and that's assuming you've got your one of him around somewhere."

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"Was that with the timeslide, because I bet I can do it five times faster without the time slide!"

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"Are you Fëanáro."

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"Yeah. Nice to meet you, other Bella! I also invented an interdimensional teleport to rescue my Bella when the Valar sent her away so you can just learn that interdimensional teleport, if you need one."

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"Oh my god a tiny Fëanáro."

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"Other ones are all grown up?"

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"They are, oh my god."

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"I'm going to be all grown up I was just stuck in Valinor and we grow really slow there. I'm older than you."

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"I don't think you even are! I'm like, what, a hundred and ninety now."

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"Okay I'm only a little younger than you. If those are Federation standard years."

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"I'm not sure what the Federation standard is, admittedly. Sorry. It's just you're adorable."

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"I'm going to be epic."

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"Good luck with that."

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"Anyway. Welcome. Where is it you need to teleport to?"

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"You encountered the concept of world adjacency yet?"

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"No."

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"Some worlds are next to each other. Almost all forms of interdimensional transit can only go to adjacent worlds, and the sole exception found only works within a single step of a specific world so it only saves you one hop."

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"So Arda is next to Warp and Materia, and Warp's also next to Materia, or none of this would have worked..."

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"Well, 'Arda' is a recurring theme and you'll have to name it something else, but yes, that's what it looks like. I'd rather not go through Materia again, that was nerve-wracking, but if my teleport were working I'd see if this world is adjacent to any of the ones I know, and if it's not I would try your Arda, and then once I was on the map I'd know how to get wherever I wanted to be and everyone would know how to come find you guys."

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"We could name it after something Bella invented that probably none of the other ones have! Like glass! Or the wheel!"

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"...they figure out glass and the wheel later on. Everybody else's Arda is older than yours."

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"Are they at the part where I do horrible prophecied things?"

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"...what horrible prophesied things are we talking about."

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"Kill a lot of people in Alqualondë, light some boats on fire..."

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"That has happened in some Ardas. Other ones somebody gets there in time to throw it off."

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Hug.

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"...it... looks like this is one of the ones where somebody got there in plenty of time to throw it off, though..."

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"Yeah but I don't like thinking that I would have been a mass murderer if not for Bella, it sort of suggests that I'm a mass murderer under the right circumstances and I don't want to be the sort of person who'd do that under any circumstances, I don't want to just have gotten lucky..."

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"Does it help at all that you don't have this characteristic when you pop up in non-Arda settings?"

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"There are mes in worlds that aren't Ardas?"

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"Yeah. Human ones."

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"You should tell us about all of the worlds, right now."

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So cute. Soooooo cute. "First I'm going to run a couple quick tests to make sure that leaving Materia un-broke my innate magic, and if it did I'm going to replace my computer because the one I had with me when I went there was buried as a hazardous material, and then I'm going to write up an interim report for the rest of the peal of Bells, and then we can explain worlds to each other. Also, Bella, you need a nickname, 'Bella' is redundant with two of the others."

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"...Boots."

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"She invented a pair that let her ice skate but then Materia broke them but then Rúmil made her new ones because T'Mir's the same shoe size."

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"I could have gone with 'Wizard' or 'Arcana' or something but I figure 'Boots' is likelier to never crash into somebody else's obvious nickname choice..."

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"Probably. The other Bellas go by Gem and Golden. Rest of us just go by whatever we were already using - I'm Cam, there's also Loki and Iobel and Kib."

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"So what are you going to do to see if we un-broke your innate magic?"

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"Oddly enough," says Cam, "trim my fingernails." He produces a nail scissor out of nowhere. He attempts to trim his fingernails. "Hurrah," he says, when the scissor doesn't get anywhere.

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"...you have magic to make your fingernails untrimmable?"

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"I mean, I mostly use it to do things like 'be comfortable with the risk that I will accidentally appear in a star' and stuff like that, but yes. I'm indestructible. I get to decide what things count as destruction." He closes the scissor again, gets the nail cut off, catches the sliver, incinerates it right in his palm, insta-heals the small burn this leaves. "And that means that if I make a copy of my computer and it doesn't work because the chip in my head corresponding to it is still broken, I can melt the chip and replace it without melting my brain."

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"I want that!"

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"You can in fact get indestructibility magicked on once we can get to everybody else! Not the same way I have it - getting it the way I have it involves dying in a way Elves do not do and possibly also that you die in a specific world - but the indestructibility part the spellbinders in Hex have finagled a la carte."

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"Cool!!! Spellbinders? Hex? How?"

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"I will get there. Lot of worlds to cover."

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"Maybe we should go over Ardas in - chronological order, or something. Like, it sounds like you know more or less what mine was like until I got there, so I tell you what happened when I got there and then you tell me what it would have been like if I hadn't and then whoever got there next did thus and such but if they hadn't then - and so on?"

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"I like this idea. Report first, though." He conjures a computer. It won't boot. He frowns at it, and then a minute later it goes on. "Did have to replace the chip, that'll be wickedly inconvenient for anybody destructible who comes through..." He starts writing.

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He waits patiently for all of five seconds and then starts bouncing in thirty-foot arcs around the surrounding area.

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"...oh my god," whispers Cam.

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Boots giggles.

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T'Mir chooses this occasion to show up. "Hello."

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"Hey, be with you in a second, powers of infosec-hazard conjuration will surely be waiting for my writeup of what the heck."

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So the girl Bells wait, and when he seems done: "So what are you exactly?"

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"My translation magic glitched on the word in Materia, so, like, don't freak out, but I'm a demon."

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"...you really wanna render that as, like, anything else."

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"So I'm told. 'Maker' is fine."

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"Maker? Of what sort of things?"

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"Not antimatter, nothing magic, I have to have like two-sevenths of a clue about what it is."

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"...cool."

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"And we went to all this trouble building the city!"

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"I wanna be a demon. The problem is that my kind of Elf can't be a demon? Why not? If there's magic that can make us indestructible has anyone tried magic that can make us into the kind of thing that can be a demon?"

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Cam pulls up a map of the multiverse. "So, demons when we are at home live here. There are two other kinds of daeva with different powers, angels or changers, fairies or movers." Point point point. "The set of three worlds is adjacent to my home world, Revelation, and also to Space Arda, which is a variant Arda which is in space. Revelation has humans in it, that's it. Humans from Revelation who die appear in Limbo," point, "by default. Humans - or Dwarves - who die in Space Arda don't; Limbo is not adjacent to Space Arda. However, if a human or Dwarf from either Revelation or Space Arda summons at least one of any kind of daeva, then instead when they die they become a daeva themselves, not necessarily the same kind, it seems to be based on personality affinity with the magic but we're not sure. Space Elves in Space Arda are immortal differently from Elves from Flat Ardas, but they're still not gone when they're gone. So far none of them have managed to become any kind of daeva. We also don't know if people from non-adjacent worlds can become daeva - summoning only works adjacent to the daeva worlds, but it will work for visitors, but so far none of our visitor summoner test subjects have died, very inconvenient."

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"So I need magic to turn me into a human? I can invent that!"

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"It still might not work for adjacency reasons. Wait till somebody who's already a human falls off a ladder or something before you invest the effort, huh?"

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"I wanna be able to make anything."

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"It sounds very convenient but he's right."

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"What's Space Arda, is it a science fantasy world like this one?"

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"Except for Materia and what sounded like most of its immediate environs everywhere is a 'science fantasy world' but Space Arda is high-tech, yes, your alt there invented faster than light travel and stuff."

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"We have been teleporting but Warp doesn't have any magic so everyone thinks we just have faster than light travel. ...I did invent the interdimensional teleport to go fetch Bella?"

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"I am sure all the other yous will be very impressed by the things you've done," Rúmil says, and grabs him mid-hop for a hug.

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"Anyway, I like Boots's chronological Arda might have beens idea. There's three other standard Ardas - Shine, Elentári, and Luster." Point point point. He pulls up some notes. "Reached in years 1444, 1500, and then they start counting over again because Arda gets a sun, year of the sun 438. Respectively."

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"1179."

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"And then you went native?" He gestures at her hair.

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"I liked it there! I grew up in Materia!"

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"Everything was wonderful until the stupid Valar got scared."

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Nod nod. "So - grew up in Materia, went to college, therapy track subtle arts, planning to be low-key productive and not get up to much of anything, and then I walked into the wrong classroom and wound up in Valinor. Where I was of course disposed to be terrified of the Valar and the Maiar and the royalty and so on, because Materia, but I adjusted, and it turned out to be a science world, so I reinvented wizardry out of high school curriculum, and also I was the only subtle artist around, so I saw patients."

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"As I imagine you're familiar with, Fëanáro's mother had become very unwell shortly after he was born and the Valar had been unable to help her."

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"Yeah, I've heard that. So you're a good therapist?"

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"I was at the time completely untrained in therapy, working out of textbooks and guesswork! I did my best."

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"She's a good therapist, she fixed everything."

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"Well, there weren't any disasters, at any rate. Anyway, I invented a bunch of stuff. And I noticed the Valinor time effect, but only after I'd been there a Year, so I went to an outlying island which is outside the effect to work on a wizardry counter, and made magic necklaces and started handing them out, and then the Valar broke all of them except mine because they were worried about soft pressure to use them if Valinor as a whole started moving that fast. I shared with Fëanáro though, they let me do that much. Invented more stuff. I got arcane healing working and fixed Rúmil's eyes - what's the story with the other Rúmils -?"

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"Dunno, this is the first one I've met, actually."

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"I am not surprised that Fëanáros make a splash in every Arda."

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"That they do."

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"...huh. I mean, I guess I did meet Rúmil in the context of him showing me around and helping me acclimate, maybe the rest of you didn't need that as much... anyway. I was following all the rules I'd been told about what to invent - no generic teleportation so people wouldn't go popping all over Valinor stepping on the plants, nothing to do with golems or the undead, no combat applicable spells - I did launderers and crystal balls and earwires to let people talk to their loved ones in Endorë, stuff like that. Some reembodied people started popping up kind of - different - I can't go into much detail for patient confidentiality reasons but, uh, I'm a better therapist than Mandos..."

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"The average chinchilla is a better therapist than Mandos..."

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"...probably, what with the mental health benefits associated with keeping pets and petting soft things and such... uh, anyway, some people did not want to have been Mandosed and I could do a few things about that, and I gave a passive aggressive lecture on therapeutic ethics but that was all, and even though I was doing all this harmless prosocial wizardry and being very restrained about complaining about Mandos, the Valar summoned me to Taniquetil..."

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"They're stupid and evil. You know, Melkor was a Vala."

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"They do vary in quality. Like, Mandos sucks, but Aulë's sort of chill, Ulmo has ever been useful in his life..."

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"Well, they weren't particularly differentiating themselves from one another when they told me they were sending me away and I asked if I could have time to pack before going to the Outer Lands and they said no they meant back to Materia and I said I would die and begged for my life and they sent me anyway."

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"Fuck. Okay, uh, Golden's kid is capable of turning Valar into something more approximating people, if you were in the market for an apology there may yet be hope."

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"Will they stop being stupid and evil because they are stupid and evil."

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"They get much less stupid after Elspeth's through with them but by the time she does that how evil they are is rarely a matter for concern anymore because we can just ignore them if we want!"

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"That's what we've been doing, but it'd be nice to have Maiar for mana!"

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"There's a couple accessible Maiar and Elspeth can probably interest more of them in a How To Not Be So Stupid lecture if there's a reason to want access to more of them."

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"Olórin?"

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"Haven't met any of those. The particularly convenient ones are named Huan."

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"They should all work but Olórin was cool."

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"What does Elspeth do exactly?"

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"Valar and Maiar are really impaired at understanding incarnates, but Elspeth has a magic power summarized as 'telling the truth' - except she can do it really quickly and densely and with lots of nested context, and if she turns it way up, the Valar will actually understand her instead of sort of trying to pretend."

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"That sounds tremendously valuable."

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"Elspeth's great. Okay, so, the Valar sucked directly at you instead of sucking quietly in the background, and...?"

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"Well. I didn't die. I'm not sure if they successfully protected me somehow or if Materia is just okay with people who don't do science while they're in it - suspect the latter, wouldn't count on it - went back to college, got my degree and my license and joined a practice and made sure I had language books around to distract Fëanáro if he tried to rescue me... which he did... successfully."

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"And then I took Bella to somewhere in the south of Valinor where the Valar don't pay much attention and I got Rúmil and we figured out how to parameterize my interdimensional teleport for some place with lots of science and no gods, and we ended up on a planet in Warp and on the news there was a story about T'Mir and she looked like Bella so I went to rescue her from prison only she wanted an explanation so instead I came and told Bella and then we rescued her and then went to a planet that wasn't in the Federation."

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"I was in for violation of the Prime Directive," chirps T'Mir, at Cam's questioning look. "I'm very proud of myself."

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"Well, congratulations on violating the Prime Directive, then. Okay. We can double back and cover all the non-Ardas after we're through the timeline. So, next chronologically is Kib. 1444. Uh... sans Boots, Miriel is not alive at this point, I don't seem to have exactly when she dies noted down..."

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He hugs Bella very very tightly.

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Squeeze.

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"...yeah. Uh, and the Valar offer to reembody her and she says no and her husband asks her to come back and she says no and eventually he decides he'd like to remarry, but the Valar say nobody can have two living spouses so if he does that Miriel has to stay dead, and she says, fine, I'll stay dead, and Finwë marries this other lady who does not get along with her stepson at all and has four kids with her who do not get along with their half brother at all."

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"She couldn't come back but - still - was I grown up by then, I think if I was grown up I might have been sort of okay..."

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"Sixteen as of the remarriage, first half-sister comes along when you are twenty-one."

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"The Halls was Finwë thinking."

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Bella-clinging.

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Snuggle. "I cannot imagine that the other Fëanáros were keeping quiet about their objections to the arrangement -"

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"I can't tell you how their displeasure may have been expressed but I assume it wasn't quietly."

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"What a nightmare. At least I suppose he couldn't have run away to the Outer Lands..."

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"If he tries that I don't have it in the abridged notes version. Anyway, in spite of this stunning example of family life Fëanáros then proceed to marry young and have seven children."

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"Not ten?"

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"I am not privy to their family planning discussions. Last two are twins, that might be it."

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"What're they like, what're they like?!"

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"I don't know any of them all that well myself but several Bells are very fond of their instances of the firstborn, name of Maitimo - second one's Macalaurë, a ridiculously good singer - third one's Tyelcormo, keeps a Maia as a pet, mysteriously able to talk to animals - only note I have on Carnistir is that he's the one who likes economics - Curufinwë is like you only less so - no personality notes on the twins..."

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"Are they happy?"

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"Uh."

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Bella-clinging.

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"I'm really not the best person to ask about them, anyway, I have not made a habit of extensive socialization with them - they're very competent and very devoted to their respective yous, that's what I've got."

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"...okay."

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"Also, in 1400, the Valar parole Melkor, this is a terrible fucking idea don't let yours do it he continues to be bad fucking news."

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"Ohhhhh no."

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"What were they thinking - it'd been three hundred Years, I suppose that's what they were thinking..."

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"Also he faked an oath to behave and nobody wanted to assign a prison sentence of 'eternity', I guess, but they were not sufficiently paranoid about the oath."

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He nods.

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"So. Don't let yours do that. You will get to avoid a whole lot of nastiness that way. Elspeth can help. But anyway, Kib arrives when he's been paroled for a while and has been pretending to behave himself very well so far and Fëanáro's kids are mostly grown up..." And he digresses to explain the traits of Stork and Kib's reincarnation thing and servantmaking and the portals and whatnot, omitting the polyamory tangle because little ears.

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Little ears who are way more interested in servantmaking and reincarnation and the portals! "Maybe once Elspeth makes our Valar reasonable and they apologize we can have a portal from Valinor to here!"

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"Maybe. Shine and Stork have portals between them again. Could be more useful for your purposes than just teleportation."

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"I haven't teleported back to see my parents because we're worried the Valar'd make me stay."

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"I have no special expertise on whether they would do that. So things are nice for a while. On what appears to have been a complete whim the Fëanáro brings home a baby from a visit to Stork and adopts her; her name's Lári. Things are looking okay. But Kib makes Melkor kinda nervous or something. So, after smuggling some Stork babies into Shine for servantmaking purposes, Melkor kills the Trees - which he usually does, but this was ahead of schedule - and also Kib's husband, and he swoops off to Endorë to be overtly evil again. They grab Kib's reincarnated husband out of Stork before the Valar close the portals, and people pack up to go oppose the overt evil. Fortunately, they had all the boats they needed, they'd been able to copy stuff from Stork."

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"There's a prophecy where I kill a lot of people for boats -"

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"Yeah, but when that happens it's not because you just sort of feel like killing people for their boats, it's because you need boats, don't know how to build them, are in a desperate hurry, and try to steal them. Doesn't happen if there's plenty of boats."

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"Oh, good."

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Rúmil smiles worriedly at him. "So in Kib's Arda they have boats and go off to fight Melkor."

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"They have boats! They go off to fight Melkor! This is in fact the nicest, tidiest war with Melkor on record, because they've got servantmakers, and accordingly dinosaur cavalry and war golems and lightspeed communication with shines and stuff. Compared to the other wars it's a cakewalk, the casualties are nearly all expendable hardware. However, it still sucks. Finwë dies - everyone is agreed it would be a waste of Fëanáro's talents to make him spend time on Kinging so Maitimo does that, Maitimos have very kingly skillsets - Maitimo gets lured into a trap by what is by all reports a very convincing facsimile of humans awakening on Endorë but nope - he gets captured - Maitimo's cousin flies on on a pterodactyl to rescue him once the pterodactyls are grown up - Kib gets captured -"

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"Should I be expecting to...?"

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"Kib probably not but wait till you hear it from him, dunno about other cases."

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"Rúmil was a prisoner of the Enemy, he's okay. Right?"

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"I think it's a hard thing to generalize about. But yes, I'm okay."

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"Well, the problem isn't so much that it's traumatizing as that the Enemy has a thing for causing people to hallucinate being rescued. Over and over and over. So when they are..."

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Bella-squeeze.

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Squeeze. ...Glance at Rúmil.

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I don't think it's particularly likely that this is a extended hallucination. The possibility doesn't change my actions much but it is an explanation for why I do not seem to have been a participant in any of these wars. 

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"Anyway, they rescued Kib too, but it turns out Bells can mentally self-destruct under the right kind of stress. Just sort of - stop thinking. Which was in some ways a very constructive response. Also it turned out that when Kib's memories were erased he'd dream them back same as he got his past life, so he was tough to keep in a state of not-aware-that-he-ought-to-self-destruct for any period of time. He got rescued and was - passive, non-participatory, fairly easy to keep comfortable but not present. His husband was incandescently enraged, as though he hadn't been already. Aydanci and Fëanáro collaborated on the Shine version of the Silmarils - they're different from the regular kind, they're made of shines, usually they're made with Treelight but Shine's Trees were already dead. This kinda Silmaril can command automata. They made a massive army of automata and sent them in with the Silmarils and killed the Enemy with them. Beleriand collapsed into the sea when he died, except for one civilian city Ulmo was looking after - yaaaaay Ulmo he has ever been useful in his life - and Doriath, which has a Maia queen. Surprising number of survivors, though, what with the knowing how to boats. Everybody moved to the south continent."

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"I am very deeply impressed. Congratulations, Fëanáro."

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"They're probably epic! They killed a god!"

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"Possibly. I'm not sure there's actually a safe way to verify that, is there a form you can file with Materia to requisition a formal report on your epic status...? Anyway, they brought Kib to Lórien, who could roll him back pre-capture just fine but couldn't actually interfere with the memories dreaming back. So they restored all his memories so he would at least not have nightmares about them and figured they'd work on something to make him not need to sleep. But before they got anywhere with that, peal found the world. Me and Iobel snapped him out of it by standing around narrating the thoughts he was not having, because, Bells, and he freaked out and was very annoyed but did turn his brain back on again. He is now almost completely functional but he won't servantmake or get too close to certain strategic matters."

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He nods.

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"In Luster and Elentári, the Silmarils are invented out of Treelight in Valinor in 1450. They're very shiny, people go kind of stupid over them. Melkor sort-of-behaves on parole until 1495, but he's low-key exacerbating political fracture points, till Fëanáro and his half-brother Nolofinwë are each convinced the other is plotting against him and that escalates, Finwë completely fails to handle this gracefully in any way shape or form, etcetera. And in 1495 Melkor stops pretending to behave, kills the Trees, kills Finwë, there's a giant spider involved here for some reason, and he runs off to do overt evil."

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Bella-cling. 

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So many snuggles.

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"Oh, and Melkor steals the Silmarils. And then Fëanáro and sons all swear an incredibly stupid oath to retrieve them that is only defensible as long as the Enemy continues to hold them, which I have no justification on record for that, but I do want to kind of put the mass murder thing in context here. The Teleri have boats. They have the only boats. Melkor's Melkoring it up across the ocean. The Ice is a deathtrap. The Teleri will not loan out their boats. The Teleri will not help build new boats. The Teleri will not explain how boats are made. The Teleri think the Noldor should stay put and calm down and let the Valar handle it, which I have on good authority would in fact have taken centuries, because Valar.

So you try to steal the boats, and the Teleri stop thinking that calming down is such a good way to handle things, and they try to stop you."

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More Bella-squeeze. Rúmil looks agonized.

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"Bunch of people wind up dead. The Valar do one of the stupidest, evilest things they ever do, which is curse everybody who's trying to leave. This is called the Doom. It is hazardous to your health. I have the text of it if you want."

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"Yes, please."

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So Cam looks up and reads aloud the Doom.

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"What were they thinking -"

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"Probably went something like 'we are Valar and we can do no wrong let's react to this upsetting event with the first idiocy that pops into our heads it'll be fine consequences aren't real'."

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"Oh, no. So - then what -"

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"So the boats are successfully stolen with enormous losses all around. Batch of people sail across and disembark. And then - this one is like the oath close to indefensible even in context, sorry - decide to leave everybody else behind instead of making more trips. Reduced infighting, is the idea, some of the people are Nolofinwë's or have other reasons to be mad at Fëanáro. So to make it clear that this is what's going on he sets the boats on fire."

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Bella-cling.

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"And then the war gets underway. Fëanáro dies, somewhere around here the youngest one of his kids dies too I'm not actually clear on how, but they just about clear the continent of orcs and settle in to get underway on besieging Angband.

Meanwhile everybody who got left behind is still Doomed, exiled, and unclear on how to build seaworthy boats.

They cross the Ice and a ton of them die on it."

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"Oh no."

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"Yeah.

This is when Loki shows up. She lands in 1500 when they're almost across, lands near the front edge of the host in the Helcaraxë, first person she meets is Nolofinwë's eldest. She's got a really good healing spell. Nobody else dies after she lands. She's not in time to save everybody but she can do that much. ...Loki tells her story better than I can, she does illusions with it, it's really dramatic-looking, you could wait for her. They might find a way into this world soon, they've had a while... lemme check my mail..." Cam checks his mail. "...search is in progress, they're halfway through the uninteresting stuff next to Edda right now."

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"They're checking whether any other worlds are adjacent to this one? They could also check whether they're adjacent to our Arda..."

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"The teleport spell isn't polished up to Loki's usual standard - she got it as far as she needed to in order to grab the Tesseract and end her war, then switched to working on all-purpose resurrection - so they need osanwë or a good picture or a really good description of the destination. If they can't find a way here, I'll ask you to drop me in your Arda, and then I will take pictures of it, and then they'll try that."

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"And if that doesn't work we can bounce around from here to all the worlds adjacent to us. We'll find some eventually, unless worlds are on a line or something - how does adjacency work -"

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Cam pulls up the maps so far. "Not linearly. It's all branchy. No loops so far except the daeva neighborhood."

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"If we can't find anything what'll we do?"

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"If we can't find a connection through the known worlds then we both keep looking for new ones and I hang out here till then, I guess. I'm useful!"

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"I want to meet the grownup mes and my kids."

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"And everybody will want to meet you too. They're going fast as they can."

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"While you are stuck here I am sure there's lots of things our new colony planet would tremendously benefit from having - and Bella and T'Mir took astonishingly little time to get on the same page, I expect that to apply here too. If Loki wants to tell her story herself, can we hear - the way it would have gone without her?"

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"Yeah. So, sans Loki -"

And he goes on with the history of Luster in all its disastrous glory.

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And he clings.

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Clinging is reasonable and responded to with swaying and squeezes.

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"- and then Gem showed up and the Maedhros there wished the Enemy gone and she fixed up everything else, we don't know what happens after that."

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"It doesn't sound as if there are concrete paths to victory, though, without external intervention."

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"It kind of does not seem like there are, no. Erus: do not take good care of their toys."

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"Bella, all the Maitimos-"

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"We'll see if they want me to do anything."

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"The Space ones are okay. And Elentári's Maedhros who hasn't picked a distinguishing nickname yet and Island are at least at the point of believing they're out, I'm told receiving free will is very convincing, at least with the right leadup, Loki didn't drop it on the Luster one."

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"Well. We'll tell our Arda not to let Melkor free, and wizardry might be able to kill them once we're good enough."

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"It will be."

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"So, there is actually a runaway Melkor from a non-standard Arda, I was chasing him down when I landed in Materia - Loki checked for a deadman's switch but he didn't stick around when confronted. We don't know if he's in Materia or not - he could still be anywhere adjacent to his origin point - but it might be very important to be able to kill them in a way that Materia doesn't object to."

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"Materia'll probably object to our wizardry, since we developed it using science."

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"Yeah, and not exactly safe to test. But it might fare better than an automaton army."

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"I am sure whatever the risks there are people who will be willing to make the attempt. And we can think of a better way to do it."

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"Here's hoping."

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"Fëanáro," he says, "perhaps we should let the Bells catch up?"

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Bella-clinging.

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Snuggle. "Or if you don't want to let go of me just yet T'Mir can explain Warp to Cam."

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"I die and spend so long in Mandos and my children get hurt and everything's horrible -"

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Squeeze. "It's pretty bad," she murmurs. "Ours'll be better. Best Arda of them all."

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"Yeah."

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Hugs hugs hugs.

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(T'Mir starts telling Cam about Warp.)

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"Okay," says Boots when the little ears are out of little earshot, "what were you leaving out for the underage audience."

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"I don't like talking about my war, I'll leave that to Loki too if that's okay, but it sucked more than most of them. There's an Arda where nearly everyone is evil for some reason - as a population aggregate they're not worse than a similar tech level and group size of humans but on a one to one comparison, and for Elves, they're disturbing. Maitimos and Findekános are default couples; Kib is dating both of his in addition to the husband, picked 'em up in the interim before he remembered his past life was married."

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"Does Arda get less homophobic over the next few hundred years?"

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"Nope, not a bit. Kib and Aydanci are publicly acknowledged because they got heterosexually married the one time and it turns out the Valar care more about marriages than about The Gays. Maitimos and Findekános are secrets from most people. Island and Pterodactyl in particular are in fact married married - that is doable on standard Arda marital architecture, it's expectation-driven - and basically going 'it's the king, suck it up' - their involvement with Kib is still a secret, Kib's worried about how Aydanci's Elf family will react. In Evil Arda they were also public but the Findekáno is on a long not-being-in-an-abusive-relationship trip off somewhere nobody can readily locate him now. Gem and her Lúthien - the half-Maia Doriath princess - are married-married, it was a surprise, turns out the expectation basis thing is wobbly enough that learning there were human jurisdictions in which gay marriage was legal did the job."

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He sighs. "That was one of the fights Bella picked, though very subtly."

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"Kib made a habit of being as ostentatiously, gratuitously mushy about his husband at anyone who talked to him for more than four seconds as a means of picking that fight. They're very adorable. Kind of a pair of psychological wrecks but adorable ones. Loki just told everyone they sounded like backwater idiots when they said homophobic things. And slept with a bunch of girls."

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"I suppose there's no reason to have assumed we're all straight any more than there is to assume we're all girls."

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"Loki actually is straight, she just didn't want to go anywhere near the soul marriage thing - didn't know it was a risk with picking up girls, which meant accordingly that it wasn't - and relevant portions of her brain are in perpetual search of an exception. Gem and Kib are gay - Kib prefers 'androphilic' what with having been a girl - I'm bi, rest of you are straight girls."

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Nods. "Bella and T'Mir had sort of the same parents, is that universal -"

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"No, Loki and Kib are exceptions, Kib is parentless and Loki was adopted from and by parents who are not the standard sort."

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"And all of the Ardas have all the same people?"

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"Space Arda has a bigger population and somewhat different contents. I think Evil Arda also doesn't match up perfectly. Other than that, accounting for points in timelines, yes."

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He smiles at Bella. "Well. It's very nice to have met you. You will want to pick up wizardry right away, it's tremendously useful..."

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"I will! It sounds it! Is it most efficiently taught in groups, though?"

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"Not so much that I wouldn't teach you alone if they check the known worlds and can't find their way here and we have to wait for them to check for a way into my Arda, enough that it's probably worth waiting the little while until they finish the first check."

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"So how did you land in Materia in the first place?"

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"Space Fëanáro invented a thing called a worldleaper. It'll go from a world to a random neighbor. Loki's teleport spell requires a known destination, so worldleapers are how we find new destinations to know. Gem's Lúthien, Joy, can do a more guided teleport, but she'd land near the Melkor she was looking for if she went looking for one, and is not indestructible, so I was the scout."

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He shudders. "Wise. Joy's the one looking for us, or can they all do a guided one now that you can send them more information?"

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"I sent them a photo of where we are now. Loki's the one looking for me - maybe somebody else is helping, she didn't say, but it's not actually urgent or time-consuming enough to have two people on - and if there's a known world accessible to this one she'll be able to land right here on the basis of the photo."

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"How many worlds are known?"

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"Uh, how many planar buddies does Materia have?"

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"...Almost thirty?"

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"Then counting what has been discovered in my most recent jaunt, almost a hundred, but obviously Loki's not going to go through Materia. She probably counts as epic but it'd certainly still bust some of her stuff."

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"I'm very glad you made it through Materia safely. Is there a standard list somewhere of all the resources you have, and how easily they're shared..."

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"Yes there is." And he produces a list with items like "Allspeak (ask at Vanda Nossëo)", "free will addition or removal (add name to waiting list; distribution batched)", "indestructibility (low throughput, send request to Hex marked attn: cubed distribution project)", "wishes (1/customer, must be made in or adjacent to Wish, require Gem's personal attention, read info packet on being a magi)", "precognition (works only in Aurum, subject to schedule of relevant witch)", and so on.

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This is delightful. He beams delightedly at Bella. "Looks like we have some lists to add our names to."

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She cackles. "This is so great, I love having alts."

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"...Resurrection is not up to all-purpose scratch, yet?"

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"Not yet. You lose somebody?"

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"My home planet was destroyed some years ago and my father was on it."

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"...sorry. Could fix that near Edda or Wish, but this isn't. I could replace the actual planet, but not the people on it."

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"I understand. I'll wait."

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"Could we wish the people back near Wish, and then move them home?"

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"Preliminary results suggest no. It's possible this is an artifact of the world they've been poking around checking up on - they do weird things with people's souls there - but probably not."

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"Materia's magic does resurrection but from Materia's afterlives, and it's inherently expensive and divine magic..."

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"Yeah. And Space Elves can be resurrected anywhere but only Space Elves. Or Space Orcs. And so on. Loki's working on a generic."

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"I may go contact the Materian versions of Finwë and his family, learn whether there's a me, talk with them about expanding Materia-evacuation to their kingdom."

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"Sounds like a good next."

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"Do tell me if a route to the rest of the known worlds is found," he says to Bella, and heads off to do this.

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"How bad was it."

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"Loki fixed it."

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And Bells catch up on Bell things.

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And after a bit, Loki arrives and swoops Cam up in a hug.

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"Tag, I'm it," laughs Cam. "Where are we?"

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"Next to Revelation. Hi new Bells!"

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"Hi!" Loki found us!

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So he comes on over. "Hello, you must be LokI! Rúmil, apparently I do not feature in later-diverging Ardas. Should I fetch Fëanáro too? I wasn't sure how much editing for young ears was going to inconvenience us."

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"Uh, he should maybe skip the Space Arda story pending consultation with his own alts on that? Mine should be fine assuming we're clear on 'Enemy: bad' without needing the lurid details."

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"I don't think he'll take any persuading on that. ...should we hear Space Arda and then call him, then?"

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"Yeah, probably." Loki gives Cam a kiss and a new necklace.

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He sighs and murmurs, "Love you," and then he vanishes.

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"You will kindly not give him any shit about it," Loki tells Rúmil. "Judge all you want, I don't know how much that'll be, but do not corner him at parties and bring it up or anything. Rest of us can reconstruct his reasoning for you as necessary and don't have the gigantic guilt complex."

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"...what happened?"

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She brings up illusions of Space Valinor and Space Endorë. "In Space Arda it's all spread out. That's Valinor, that's Endorë. He showed up shortly post-Alqualondë, made them enough ships to get everybody across -"

And she tells the rest of the story in chronological order.

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Boots pats T'Mir's knee.

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"Mine sets to verse much better."

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Fëanáro? Loki's here to tell her story.

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He flies over. "Hi!" he says delightedly, and lands, and looks confusedly at the adults as if trying to size up who he should get hugs from.

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"Hello there. Cam indicated I should not coo too much over how cute you are?"

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"I'm a hundred and twenty Federation years, I was just stuck in this place that's really slow. I invented an interdimensional teleport and an alphabet for Quenya."

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"I invented an interdimensional teleport too! Go us. Do I get to coo a little because I'm almost two thousand?"

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"...a little."

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"Eeeeeee," says Loki.

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Boots laughs.

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"Cam said you'd tell us the story of your Arda."

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"Will do. Background information..." And she presents an abridged story of her life leading up to her temporary exile to give Odin time to cool off and then she conjures up a Flat Arda illusion and zooms into the Helcaraxë and goes from there.

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Does it help with Loki thinking he's adorable that she also kind of thinks he's adorable in grownup form, because she totally does.

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Marvelous.

And here's the part where she kills Melkor and dumps free will on everybody and pulls a fast one on Mandos with the Time Stone and here is a lovely illusion of Vanda Nossëo, spinning, and the orc planet, likewise, and Rounded Flat Arda, doing the same like any respectable planet should.

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"Yay!!! I want to meet all of my kids, right away, should I go to Vanda Nossëo?"

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"If you want to meet all your alts' kids you have to go to Shine! That's the only one where Lári's there too."

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"Okay, I'll do that! I can do both! I probably don't have enough mana to do all those in one day, though."

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"You can learn my kinda teleporting. Takes hours unless you get Elspeth to help, though, and I don't know what she's up to right now. In the meantime I can give you a ride if you want."

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"We need her anyway; we need to persuade the Valar not to release Melkor. I would like a ride!"

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"Yeah, but they're not slated to do that this week and she has to sleep and do princess stuff, so you might not be able to get ahold of her right now. Who all's coming along to Shine?"

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You going? he asked Bella. I have a feeling Fëanáro will be a little excitable and should have some supervision.

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Yeah, I'll go. Are you okay?

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Yes. I might come too. I doubt we'll ever meet these particular children, even if ours someday has his own. 

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"I'm going."

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"I'll hold down the fort and make a tour later."

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"T'Mir, I was in touch with Finwë's family in Materia; they are considering whether they believe us and if so how to evacuate their nation. I'm sure they'll be in touch with you."

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"Is there a time at which they're expecting a followup call, or do they have a way to initiate a conversation from there?"

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"Expecting a followup call 'when we have a chance', I didn't know how much time this would take, but sometime in the next few days and it's possible we'll be gone longer than that."

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"All right." She pulls a PADD out of her pocket and makes a note. "I'll take care of it."

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"Thank you very much."

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"Of course."

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"This is how many hops?"

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"Six. I'll make 'em quick. Say when."

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"Should we grab anything?"

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"D'you want to hand out any local doodads as souvenirs or anything? Otherwise no not especially."

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"We're sufficiently time- and mana-constrained not to have any magic stuff in souvenir amounts..."

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"Alright." He squeezes Fëanáro's hand. "Let's go."

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Hopping ensues. Quick glimpses suggest that all the worlds have places designated specifically for teleporters to pass through.

"Welcome to Shine!"

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"Where's the us?"

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"I seem to remember being told he loses hours of work every time he's interrupted, it would be politer to see who shows up when I just announce near a cityful of Elves hey people Cam found a tiny Fëanáro come see."

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"I'm. Not. Tiny."

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"If it makes you feel better I'm supposed to be twelve feet tall."

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"But no one thinks of you as the adorable tiny Bell who's funny no matter what she does because she's so short and unworthy of being taken seriously, do they."

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"I take you seriously," Loki says. "Why would you think I don't?"

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"No one tells me things and I am pretty sure mes would rather be distinguished by our accomplishments where they differ than by how large we are."

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"None of you has even picked a real nickname, after an accomplishment or anything else."

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"I want to be Epic. I'll pick names for the other ones once they tell me what they did."

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"Epic it is. That's a very good nickname."

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"It's not true yet but it will be, if there are still Melkors and wizardry can kill them." He soars into the air again. "And wizardry still works here, no adjacency!!!"

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"Awesome!"

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Boots giggles, and floats up a little bit to see if anybody is coming to have a look at Tiny Fëanáro or rather Epic.

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He lands. He osanwë-shouts. Hi, everyone, this is the Fëanáro and the Bella and the Rúmil from the new dimension, we can teach you our magic and it's really powerful!

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"It sounds like we're 'Bells'," says Boots. "As a group."

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"Okay. I suppose I could shout at them all to correct them but I don't know if that's a good idea."

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"It probably wasn't a very good idea to shout at them in the first place."

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"Why not?"

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"They might have been busy, and they expect background noise about as loud as us talking so they can tune Loki out when she makes an announcement aloud, but probably don't expect to be osanwëd at suddenly."

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"But they'll want to know. I'd want to know. We can teach them magic."

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"We didn't bring any scrolls to give them lessons right now and the opportunity to learn wizardry is not going to evaporate, so it's not an emergency."

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"I'd want to know right away, though."

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"But nobody's running out here at top speed, so I don't think they agreed with you - or if they did, they're talking about it amongst themselves first, which would also have let them propagate the information to anyone who wasn't listening."

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"Okaaaay."

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(Loki is amused but she keeps quiet about it.)

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Anybody Boots recognizes in there?

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This world's Rúmil is present (and sighted) but near the back of the horde; Nerdanel is present, stifling a giggle at the sight of little Fëanáro and gripping the arm of the adult Fëanáro. 

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Awww. Boots waves.

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Most people haven't actually met the peal and don't recognize her. 

 

Fëanáro is bouncing happily on his toes. "Hi!" he says. "We're from an Arda that got a interdimensional visitor way sooner than any of yours, when I was ten..." and he goes on to explain, bubbly, the whole story, "and then while we were evacuating Materia another Bell landed there and found us and found a way to come to the world. And wizardry works even when not adjacent, and it's great, we're inventing spells for all kinds of things! And you can use Maiar for mana so you don't even run out! And I wanted to meet all of my children - apparently this is the only world where I can meet all of my children -"

 

And there's a moment's pause and then seven Elves and one human push their way forward, smiling broadly. The King's in the lead, and red-haired, and he kneels to be at Fëanáro's level and is still a little taller. "We are very flattered that you came here first," he says. "Welcome to Shine. I'm Maitimo."

"-d'you want Bella to fix you, because she's a therapist -"

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"Please do not introduce the idea like that to people we've only just met. In front of everybody, even."

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He shakes his head, laughing. "I hear the Valar in some worlds are much less reasonable than ours! Even before Elspeth had a talk with them, ours managed not to do any appallingly ill-advised things except the pardon and they were a tremendous aid in healing our wounded after the war. Poor Bella will not be swamped with therapy requests. It is convenient to have someone around to fix everything you can't fix just by applying enough inventiveness, isn't it? We end up leaning on our Bells quite a lot, most worlds I've heard of. Anyway, this is Macalaurë -" and so on.

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"You can call me Boots, I'm told Bella's redundant and it wouldn't be fair to Gem and Golden if I kept using it even interdimensionally," Boots mentions when there's a break in the introductions.

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"I am by the same token Island, and actually prefer it to my given name, but it wouldn't be fair to my father to introduce us all by hastily-chosen peal nicknames when he's the one who named us so, um, painstakingly. Why Boots?"

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She lifts up on her tiptoes, clicks her heels together. "My solution to the apparently endemic clumsiness issue. I could've gone with something else but Boots amuses me."

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"Boots is lovely. Have you already stopped by Vanda Nossëo to get their resources-for-running-a-galactic-consortium talk and documentation and procedures? It sounds like it'd come in handy."

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"Not yet. Epic wanted to meet his alternate universe children. We do mean to stop there too though."

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"They've had a while, have some nice things like things we can produce sorted by how much money we get for our effort on the galactic market, and then interventions for planets at various levels of development by cost-effectiveness. Space has got the enviable xenobiology labs, they were so far ahead of we flat Ardas on tech that it didn't make any sense for Vanda Nossëo to try taking that over."

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"'Galactic'?"

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"Edda's big. Most dimensions have one inhabited planet, so far, Edda's got thousands. So even though they'll happily handle multiverse stuff as needed, the consortium is being built closer to home. Shine's becoming a member and in two more years I think Stork'll apply for membership and then they can call themselves a dimension-spanning empire."

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"Warp is big too."

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"Which is why it seems like they'll be a useful resource for you, having had more time how to think how to get the most leverage out of the resources all this multiverse-hopping can fetch us - like, what's it most Cam's-time-effective to have him make, where can we deploy Hex's and Wish's sharply-limited but very-powerful stuff, how best do we roll out whatever the Space Fëanors pulled off lately - their end goal is for everyone on every planet in their consortium to have no material scarcity, invulnerability, and a short-range teleport, with a designated spot on each planet to emigrate from."

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"Are they close to pulling that off?"

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"They can cut the mortality rate of any preindustrial place pretty much in half every year after they land there, but we're bottlenecked on demons for the end-scarcity part."

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"I wanna be a demon."

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"I think you'd get bored of constantly terraforming planets for the empire. We're lucky Cam adores that kind of work."

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"I thought there were tons of demons. Is the bottleneck on which ones you trust with information or which ones you trust with enough freedom to terraform things?"

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"With the secret that there's something they can conjure to let them hop dimensions at will, though enough freedom to terraform things is also a bit of a concern."

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"It seems like if somebody with a teleport gave them a ride you wouldn't have to let them encounter the concept of worldleapers."

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"Honestly it's a matter of time before it gets out anyway, we need a better solution. But if I got a teleport across dimensions I'd definitely be motivated to start looking for records relevant to that, and Hell's curators have everything, and looking up the complete works of my father would do it."

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"- the Space one, not your actual father?"

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"Yes, yes, around here we just got around to inventing the heavy club. The Space Arda is almost hilariously far out in front. The other versions of my father'd be hurt, but Space set can't do magic and have inferior osanwë and had the worst war, so -"

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Did they not tell him.

 

"They had a population of billions instead of hundreds of thousands, so the Enemy could be way way worse and things were worth it to stop him that wouldn't have been against ours, and they had to make a deal with him to stop hurting people in exchange for them destroying Valinor. The trick was that they could bring it back - space Elves are resurrectable without Mandos. Everything's okay now but that doesn't make it not have happened."

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Cam didn't want to say and Loki thought it would be a good idea to ask adult Fëanáros before figuring out how to explain it to this one, Boots explains.

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Evil Arda. You and your cousin dating Kib, Iobel being married to Mitros - I'm doing sort of a surrogate parent thing and I don't know how to make that not weird. It hasn't come up that you're with your cousin by default either but that's less 'secret' and more 'didn't come up'.

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Okay. "I think Curufinwë will be the happiest person in the world if you let him explain servantmaking to you," he says to Fëanáro, "though only Lári can do it. It's how we have all the cool robots, see -"

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"Anyway," he says, "very nice to meet you, Boots, Rúmil - have you picked a nickname, Rúmil -"

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"Not yet, I'll consider what seems sensible."

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"Hi Other Rúmil," chirps Boots.

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"Hello! I can't say I had the privilege of knowing Kib very well, I spent most of my time in the south once Melkor decided to settle in Tirion."

(Bella's Rúmil nods.)

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"That explains it. Apparently it is possible to make Valar into reasonable people and then maybe they will listen to us telling them not to let him out in the first place. I'm considering naming my Arda after a Tree since we still have them."

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He laughs. "Good skill with that. They - should be convincable? Ours seemed to sincerely think he'd reformed, I don't think they were unwilling to consider evidence on the point."

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"...I may be unusually biased against them."

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The Rúmils meet eyes. "Understandable," he says. "Someone else can always do the persuading."

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"I hear there's a specialist available."

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"You probably hear more than I do, honestly. The King's been occupied with things other than keeping everyone apprised of the adventures of the multiverse. We know enough to get Shine and Stork their memberships and everything else is rumor and hearsay."

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"Couple years," he says, "and some more orderly means of transmitting news across dimensions will be organized. I know that I am leaning terribly on the Elven tendency to treat a few years like the blink of an eye, but eventually everyone will be able to talk with their counterparts regularly."

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"And you'll be done with Stork!"

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"And I will be done with Stork."

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"What will you be done doing to Stork?"

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"When we were found Vanda Nossëo offered us membership, and it seemed terribly tempting, they're doing a ridiculously good job with the resources they have. I said I'd arrange for Shine to become a member, but at the time Stork was a collection of independently governed city-states. So I asked Kib if he wanted to be its King - Bells like it if you give them monarchies as presents," he says to Bella's Rúmil as an aside, "and he was worried that 'become absolute ruler of Stork' was the sort of thing the Enemy might gain something from seeing him set to, so I thought I'd just bring the place under centralized control and then hand it to him set up so Aydanci can handle most of the work of strategic import - with our help, if he needs it - and Kib can do non-exploitable things. And then they'll join the consortium."

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(Boots laughs at the 'Bells like it if you give them monarchies as presents' description.)

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"We can stop by Kib's on the way out, we'd go through Stork anyway."

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"Yes please."

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"Kib is a delight and we are much indebted to him for setting in motion the events that made this war cleaner than most."

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"It's kind of sounding like the earlier we show up the better."

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"I've noticed! Not counting Space, but with the standard Ardas that is very much the trend."

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"Yeah, not counting Space." Poor Cam.

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"Were you hoping for a tour, here, or is this mostly just a chance for Fëanáro to meet his children - if he wants to meet a psychologically healthy me he needs to go to Space -"

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"It was just to meet the maximal set of alternate universe offspring, pretty much. I would probably like a tour eventually but I'm not in a rush on that."

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"I think it will be meaningful to Lári that this is considered the complete set. One of the Charps can probably give you a tour -" he waves one over - "and it's always our pleasure to answer questions."

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"Hello, Charp."

"Hello," says the Charp.

"Can you give me a tour?"

"Yes."

"Cool."

And she follows the Charp around.

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She is in fact a therapist.

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Yeah, I didn't think Fëanáro was wrong.

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I'm guessing she won't broach the subject unless Kib or one of your alts tells her to, or you ask, for at least a year or two after that outburst.

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...cultural thing? It was inconvenient that he mentioned it because my people believe me fully recovered, but - I don't expect political sensitivity from my father. Kib can form an opinion for me.

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She's embarrassed and shorter on self-confidence than most Bells and busy enough that she won't get around to doing it anyway on a short term basis without prompting. Kib's going to be freaked out by the idea because she's a psychic therapist, unfortunately.

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If she's busy it's almost certainly with things that are higher priorities.

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They'd look like it on paper but Warp's got two Bells resident and she didn't have to do much prep work to go on a vacation of unspecified duration. She can find time for you if you want her help.

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I'm functional. I hurt Pterodactyl once but that was only the once, don't think it'll happen again.

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Take a moment to model what that sounds like outside your own head.

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If she wants to try fucking around inside my head and she would have that ability with or without my cooperation, then she's welcome to.

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I don't actually know how cooperation-requiring her powers are.

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Well, if you like, ask.

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Sigh. Can someone here take them to Stork when they're done here and then Kib can take them to the next stop and so on, I'd like to go meet up with Cam what with him having been stranded for a while.

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Certainly. Where's Cam now?

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Limbo, unless he's done reassuring his parents about the strandedness by now.

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Okay. Go comfort your stranded boyfriend, we'll cover the tour from here. 

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Thanks.

And off she goes.

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And when Fëanáro tires of exploring, which takes a while, he offers to give the three of them a lift over to Stork. Loki said you'd be embarrassed to bring up the therapy question, he says, which you shouldn't be, but it sounds like you have far more urgent priorities anyway.

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T'Mir handles most of the administrative stuff, actually, because she's native to the place, I do more research and it's not desperately time-sensitive... uh, there are also therapists who aren't alts of your boyfriend and also approximately raising alts of your dad, though, I don't know if I have any special advantage here and it sounds like you haven't gone looking for one before.

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I'm leery of magic mind tampering because the Enemy did a lot of it. I wouldn't be considering it at all if we were just going to execute my evil alt.

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That's understandable. There's also therapists who aren't subtle artists - or psionic, in Warp terms -

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In your assessment, are they likely to get anywhere on something like this?

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I haven't done nearly enough assessment to have a clear picture of the prognosis for 'this'.

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Perhaps we could talk long enough for you to have that picture, and then you could do a referral.

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Sure. When would be a good time for me to come back? Or you could visit Warp if you like.

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I'll stop by Warp. When's convenient?

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Four days? If they're the same length.

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All right. Thanks.

 

And Stork, outside Kib's house.

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"Thanks for the ride!"

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"Any time."

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Knock knock. A Charp gets the door and shows them in.

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Kib sticks his head out of the dining room. "Oh, hello," he says. "Which one are you, Boots or T'Mir?"

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"Boots. This is Rúmil and this is my Fëanáro who has nicknamed himself Epic."

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"Oh, that's a good nickname, it's not a number or a letter of the alphabet at all."

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"Mm-hm. Is your husband home?" Epic does not know about the boyfriends, I don't know how to make it not weird, I'm practically fostering him.

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"Immunology conference, he'll be hours, did you specially want to meet him?"

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"There'll be time later, just curious."

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"Well, anyway, I'm home, fortunately, or Island would have inadvertently stranded you here and that would have been mildly inconvenient if you don't have Loki's spells yet."

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"We're expecting to get them from Elspeth when she comes through to resaonableize our Valar."

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"It seems like such a niche skill, yet she deploys it so often."

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He is talking to the Charp.

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Well, the Charp is not a particularly interesting conversationalist but it will respond to questions readily.

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That's interesting! He has so many questions. How much math does the Charp know, how many languages, does the Charp feel happy or sad, does it know if it's injured, what does knowing it's injured feel like, can it learn magic...

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The Charp knows all the mathematical operations that seemed worth programming in, including the basics and some obscure magic-Arda-engineering stuff and some cryptography. It knows Quenya and the common and Harthanic, because those were the languages its programmer knew at the time. It does not have feelings. If it is substantially damaged it will deactivate completely; if it has minor cosmetic damage it can see it but not feel it. It cannot servantmake or do magic-Arda artificing but it can reproduce magic songs it has been exposed to in the same way that a recording device can.

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Does the Charp want things, can the Charp learn new things...

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It does not want things but it can learn things!

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Can the Charp have goals or intentions -

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Not really because it's not a person or even an animal, but it will try to carry out its instructions and it does know things about what the state it's aiming at is like.

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"Okay," he says, satisfied. "Teach me Harthanic and the common, please."

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The Charp does not know how to teach a language and he will have to be more specific.

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"Say things in it, then say the same things in Quenya, and when I say things, tell me if you understand."

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"What things?" asks Charp.

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"This is a sentence in Harthanic? I am Charp, you are Fëanáro, I am silly, this is a silly sentence in Harthanic, this is Rúmil, these are Rúmil and my Bella, my Bella is called Boots..."

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Charp translates these things into Harthanic.

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"This is a silly sentence in Harthanic? These are silly sentence in Harthanic? Kib is not my Bella, the Valar are evil?"

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Rúmil sighs but beams at him. I hope you weren't expecting him to participate in the conversation.

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Charp accepts the first sentence and corrects his grammar on the second and translates the latter sentiments.

I wasn't actually sure how to predict the comparative interestingness of a new language and anything else about the world or alts of Boots or whatever.

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Well, he'd met T'Mir, alts of Boots is a concept he's familiar with at least in the abstract. We got the short version of all the worlds earlier - well, with some exclusions - and I am hoping he doesn't develop a desire to spend his time dimension-hopping...

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Some of 'em I wouldn't go to without a Charp along as a bodyguard, some of 'em even that wouldn't necessarily do if I were going to be there long.

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Ones we haven't heard about yet, or are some of the mentioned ones less stable than they sound?

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Evil Arda, parts of Edda, world between here and Luster's full of monsters and also you can't sleep or something eats your soul, and frankly I'm a little nervous around vampires even if they're all very well behaved.

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Is evil Arda dangerous for its own populace or is the risk that extradimensional visitors would be tempting targets?

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It's not as safe as a normal peacetime Arda for its residents but it's not on that level a screaming emergency. I might be a tempting target, I might be accidentally provocative to somebody, either way I'd like something that can catch arrows watching my back in case I'm slow to teleport. My facade of recovery kind of disintegrates if I'm injured.

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Yeah.

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There's a thing in the file system for people who've been in and out.

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No one's taught us the file system yet.

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Cam'll come install a mailbox on your planet and make sure you've all got computers soonish.

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Lovely, thank you.

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No problem. Computers are pretty cool.

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I wonder if I'll have to do all my crystal ball to computer interface work over from scratch if it's a new kind of computer.

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Seems likely, though computer-to-computer interfacing should be easier since they're at least all the same sort of thing...

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It's actually really obnoxious. We're all standardized on a kind common in Hell. It can integrate with Space Arda stuff. I'm sort of respecializing in computers these days but I might be a bit at a loss trying to decipher what you've got; bring home a Space Elf for that, I guess.

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Can do. It has already been recommended to us that we stop in Vanda Nossëo for resources on how to use magic goodies to accelerate building your galactic empire.

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Yeah, they'll be good for that.

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Loki thought that without some prompting Island was not likely to discuss therapy with Boots, and Boots won't discuss it with him. Island said you could decide.

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Kib looks at Boots.

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I don't know what sort of previous exposure you'll have had to the concept but in my world therapy's always practiced by subtle artists. Some of it doesn't require the arts but it's useful to be able to supervise changes in affect and follow through on desired alterations to the mind directly rather than expecting everyone to have - Bell powers of self-editing - and things like that. We've been evacuating people from Materia long enough that I can refer to someone else if I won't suit for personal comfort or rapport or entanglement reasons. And I don't take involuntary patients, never have.

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How much do you improve on Bell powers of self-editing?

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Be useful.

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You want to try me out and tell Island what you think?

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Okay.

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He squeezes Boots' hand.

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Boots sighs and squeezes back. "Fëanáro, are you going to want to stay here long enough to learn Harthanic in its entirety right now?"

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"And the common, and how servantmaking works and what makes people on this world different so they can do it..."

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"Are there not enough languages in Warp?"

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"I've been trying to only do one a week so I have time for other things but I'm right here and it'd be nice to speak some languages spoken on every planet..."

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"I wonder how your alts handle this temptation."

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"They probably have had time to learn all the languages there are!"

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"I really doubt that. They keep discovering new worlds."

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"Maybe I'll ask them. Shine's Fëanáro explained the things I'd need to know to understand how he made the Silmarils and there were a lot of them."

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"If I remember the map right we'll go through Hex and Space Arda on the way to Vanda Nossëo. We could ask those ones. They might have different perspectives because the Hex one's human."

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"Okay. I still want to learn about servantmaking while I'm here."

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"Wasn't Curufinwë going to explain it to you back in Shine? Did he not do a thorough job?"

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"We weren't there long enough!"

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"There's a lot to see out in the multiverse and also a lot to do back in Warp. We're gonna have to condense some stuff."

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"How long am I here?"

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"If you want to stay here more than another couple hours we might have to ask Kib if he's willing to have you as a solo houseguest."

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"...uh."

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"I'm very quiet. I won't be any bother, you won't even notice I'm here. I don't eat or anything."

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"I'm really not equipped for this on, like, several levels, and Aydanci's even more introverted than Bells are and he'll be home in a few hours."

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"I'll go find someone else, then," he says solemnly, and makes for the door. 

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"Fëanáro, I'm sure there are guides to servantmaking on the computers Cam's going to give us."

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"There are. All written up neatly."

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"Would you feel the same way about it if I was a grownup?"

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"There would be slightly fewer levels on which I would be unequipped to handle you but still some."

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"Okaaaaay." And he goes back to quizzing Charp about servantmaking, in Harthanic.

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Charp remains obliging.

"You could maybe borrow one of those from Shine's supply."

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"Ooooh!" Pop.

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"Sorry."

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"I'm surprised he even had the mana for that. Uh, can I ask you to go get him...?"

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"Yeah, sure."

Kib pops into Shine.

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He's trying to convince a Charp to come home with him.

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"The Charps aren't going to agree to go places of their own initiative. They're not people. Somebody would have to tell one that you can borrow it," Kib says. "We could ask Island, or Lári, if they're using all theirs."

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Hey, Island, Lári, where's a Charp I can take home?

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I'll send one over.

He does that.

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Sorry about that.

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All okay? The first thing Fëanáro said to me - in front of a couple thousand people - was "Bella's a therapist, she can fix you -"

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Yikes. Uh, they showed up at my house and he started getting my Charp to teach him Harthanic, didn't push it with me about the therapy - Rúmil mentioned it though, I'm gonna sort of try her out and get back to you?

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Thank you.

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You're welcome. You need her to help with any damage control on the couple thousand people thing?

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Hmm? No, I said 'oh, I heard how in some worlds the Valar were angry with the Noldor and didn't heal everyone after the war, but our Valar healed everyone after the war so everyone is all healed, thanks for offering'.

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Hopefully he won't pull this on any of your alts.

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Someone should probably explain things to him. 

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I'll tell Boots. When the Charp arrives, Kib reassigns it. Giving him a ride back now, I'll be by later, love you.

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Love you, take care.

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And Kib puts himself and the Charp and the smol Fëanáro back in his house. He really needs to not holler about how much the Maitimos need therapy in front of people.

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Okay. "So now that you've got a Charp to borrow can you leave Stork for now without being very upset about it?" she asks.

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"Yeah."

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"And the next time we run into a Maitimo who might or might not want therapy can you not suggest it in front of everybody like that? You don't have to suggest it at all, I'm sure the idea will propagate anyway."

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"Is he okay? The one we talked to."

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"I haven't assessed him and if I had I couldn't tell you. And just because you haven't made a confidentiality promise doesn't mean you shouldn't think about what people do and do not want announced in front of everybody they know."

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"Okay."

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"Thank you."

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He turns to his Charp and starts asking questions again.

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"Kib, can we get a ride to Hex?"

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"Sure thing." And here is Hex.

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"Thanks so much." The canals are cute. He admires them.

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"You're welcome. See you around." And he goes home.

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Iobel comes out to meet them presently.

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"Hello! Rúmil, Boots, Fëanáro."

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"Iobel! Nice to meet you all. The Fëanáros are going to need nicknames."

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"This one's Epic. He's announced an intention to name the others." I have not explained that you are one's daughter-in-law.

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That may be difficult to avoid if you stay here long or talk to many people. "Fortunately mine has a unique name, I don't know how the others keep anything straight. Even the one going by the Thindarin translation is just a little too similar to the standard."

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"I'm surprised the linguistics guild hasn't come up with a standard convention for it. Or maybe they'll come out with one in a few Years, leaving us stuck in the meantime."

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"Elves," snorts Iobel.

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"Bella frightened Valinor out of its socks just by having humanlike expectations about how fast things should go."

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"And what happened to its socks?"

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"It put them back on after it had got me out of the way, I think."

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"It tried. The protests in front of Mandos were something, but they didn't particularly get anywhere. People are still developing and inventing with wizardry."

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"I'm looking forward to siccing Elspeth on them."

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"You'll have to tell us all how that goes."

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"I'm thinking it might be a high leverage use of my time to improve on the mail relays, because wizardry can do interdimensional communication. It'll take some doing but it shouldn't require people hopping around all the time as much."

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"Marvelous!"

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"We will also probably be hopping around giving wizarding lessons at some point, it seems one of the things that works even non-locally."

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"I'm excited. More magic systems to smash into each other and see what pops out."

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"Might just invite everyone over to Warp for that."

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"Throw a party! Alt parties are the best parties."

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"A party for everyone learning their first cantrips! Sounds fun!"

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"Wizardry lecture, snacks to follow, packets of scrolls as goodie bags."

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"It'll be awesome."

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"How does spellbinding work? Why's the planet called Hex? Are you the Queen? What's my dad, then?"

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"Spellbinding only works for people who are born here; we're born with insubstantial animal companions nobody but us can see and if we turn them into solid animals we can learn spells. Mine's a cat but he's very rude and doesn't like hardly anybody. The planet's called Hex because that's what it is if you use all six of your spells for the day in one go to cast something big. I'm afraid your father's alt here passed away a few years ago." Since I'm only married for convenience it might not be too weird? I literally did marry him so that he could be king and I could be queen and we're just best friends.

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Maybe. Try it, I guess, if evasion gets hard.

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"Oh. And my mom?"

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"She died before I was even born, I never had the chance to meet her."

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"Is there a way to fix it yet?"

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"No. We're working on it, but it might need to wait until Loki's done with her spell."

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"When will that be?"

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"Her spells take decades, and she's got a lot of other things to do, too. So probably a long time. We might get there first, but some things are too big for hexes, we don't know how to get individual people more than six spells a day yet, and while we can pool spells between casters now, they go up exponentially in how many slots they take up and so nothing we can only do that way scales very well."

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"So maybe I'll fix it first. Okay."

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"Maybe! That'd be great."

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"Are there mes and my kids here too? I want to meet them!"

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"There is a you, who is probably locked away in his office as usual doing research, and there are all his kids, who are around but were not particularly expecting you."

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"I still want to meet them! I can tell them about Materia and our Arda and Warp!"

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"Well, we could go in the palace and see who we run into."

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"Okay."

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In the palace they go. Boots please tell Mitros that you're here.

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Um, hi, Mitros, I'm Boots the new Bell, I have brought a twelve year old Elf alt of your father, he does not yet know that you and Iobel are married and I'm kind of surrogate parenting him so it may be weird, it might get less weird if he knew it was a marriage of convenience but he is not ideally suited to secret-keeping.

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Hi, nice to meet you! Unless you are doing a lot of filtering he is going to run across it eventually, but I can happily make myself scarce today if that's convenient.

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He is very keen on meeting all his alts' children and I'm more concerned about making it land gently than about making it indefinitely secret.

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Okay, can do. Where are you all?

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She sends an image.

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And he comes by. "Hi, new Bell! Hi -"

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"Rúmil."

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"Hi Rúmil! Hi, Fëanáro! I'm Mitros. They call all the instances of your firstborn 'the Maitimos' which is unjust Elf supremacy because the human ones have different names."

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"Are you the King?"

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"Awww, what gave it away."

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"The crown."

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"I'm the King. With humans more than Elves, sometimes a King and Queen can just be best friends who work together really well, and that's what Iobel and I are."

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Nod, nod. "If there were only one Elf of you we would probably not privilege that one's name, but there's so many."

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"And no convenient shared element like Bells."

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"We're so lucky."

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And how's Fëanáro reacting to the thing.

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"Is that your spellbinding animal? What decides what shape it is?"

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(Phew.)

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"Yep, this is Antir, and we don't know! There are a lot of things about familiars that are a mystery."

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"And why are you speaking Quenya -"

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"Oh, I'm not, this is translation magic -"

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"Turn it off, I want to learn your language."

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"You could say please."

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"Please turn it off I want to learn your language?"

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"How long are you here for, because dunno if that's a sensible priority for you. Maybe after you've met everybody and talked with my you about what you're missing out on?"

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"We're passing through; I was thinking we'd pause and look around for a bit at all the hops between here and Vanda Nossëo, then grab Elspeth, get spells from her, and go back to Warp and send her to talk to our Valar."

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"So yeah, Fëanáro, you can pick up the language once you've got your computer."

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"Is your father meetable now or is he shut up in his office?"

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"He's working but I bet he'll want to meet his new alt."

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"All right then - this way -"

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...cute. Boots laughs softly and talks Bell stuff with Iobel.

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We're going to have to drag him away when we're ready to leave, Rúmil tells her.

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It's probably less obviously untenable to leave him here than it would have been to leave him with Kib...

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Iobel won't mind?

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Iobel probably wouldn't have to do much? It looks like her father-in-law has it covered.

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I suppose he did raise seven, and more recently than the Elf ones.

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And reportedly one of them was just like him. If less so.

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Does it feel good, to have managed to divert his disastrous history the hardest?

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Yes. Yes it does.

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And soon we'll have the Valar in a state to apologize for what they did to you.

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Not really the most important of the results we're aiming at but that'd be nice.

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It'd be a good sign on other fronts, and it's important to me.

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Awww. Hug.

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Hug. So, off to Space Arda? I'm wishing we were a space Arda, imagine how you'd have felt landing on that...

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I might have exploded.

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I suppose you couldn't have gotten as many accolades for ideas like 'glass' and 'the wheel'.

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That too. I do think I get too much credit for glass and the wheel, though.

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Squeeze. And not enough credit for everything else, so it all evens out. 

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Suppose.

And while Fëanáro is looking at a graph of idiolects and their level of agglutination rather than actively peppering his alt with questions - If he doesn't want to interrupt this to continue on our tour is it okay if we leave him here while we go on, and pick him up on the way home?

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Yes, by all means!

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"Fëanáro? We're gonna go to Space. You wanna stay here till we get Elspeth and head home, or come along?"

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He looks horribly torn. "...both?"

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"You can visit Space another time, you can also come back here another time..."

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"...I guess I'll visit Space later."

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"Okay. We'll be back in a few hours, probably." Squeeze. "Have fun."

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"I will!"

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"Iobel, can you drop us off in Space?"

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"Sure." Pop.

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Space! It's like a science fantasy set decorator got an unlimited budget and let their dreams go wild, and also had seen Quendi architecture. It's glittery and steel and glass and stunning. 

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"Yeah I would've exploded."

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"I am glad you did not explode. Uh - did Iobel tell you where we're supposed to go in this world? This is Cam's, right, he's not going to be around..."

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"Yeah, there's none of me here but she would've put us near the Space Noldor. ...There are three of the Space Maitimos around. I guess I could just pick one and say hi. It's surprisingly natural to identify minds by template."

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"Three of them, huh? That works. Island and Mitros were both charming. Not very like Fëanáro at all, but..."

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"Yeah. Or like Nerdanel for that matter." She picks the nearest Space Maitimo. Hello, is this a good time?

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Hi! Welcome to Ambaróna, means Sunrise, where are you guys?

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Picture! Iobel dropped us off. We don't have urgent business, we're just looking around the multiverse.

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Good for you, everyone ought to get offplanet more and we were planning to send a few teams over to your world anyway, compare tech - Warp's the closest in tech level to Space that we've found so far - and you can summon someone while you're here, though we suspect it doesn't work for Elves and don't know if it'll work for Boots but probably only would if she got into trouble here or in Revelation -

 

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"Hi!" Wave. "Summoning someone while we're here sounds like a good idea. This is Rúmil, have you got one, I heard there were somewhat different sets of people here?"

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"Hi! I do know you, though you stayed in Valinor and, um, therefore died in Valinor and I do not know what you're up to these days. We've got slightly different sets of people mostly because we have a lot more people - about twenty times the population - and in the generation born after 1400 or so there's only limited matches with people from flat Ardas. How alternate universe versions of people work in the first place remains a complete mystery. Come inside, let me grab you something to drink."

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"Thanks." Oh boy her alt kind of murdered Rúmil's alt that's awkward as heck. Follow follow.

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And delicious non-alcoholic (he has ever met a Bell) drinks and the standard intro to Ambaróna and Endorë on a nifty, responsive, 3-D projector on the coffee table between them. 

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Gosh, what a lovely introduction!

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"So that's the standard welcome talk, I haven't had the chance to whip something up specifically for other people trying to run a high-tech mixed-species planet but like I said we'll send you some of our teams - might just dupe them, it sounds like Warp's got more than enough to keep them occupied - hmmmmm..."

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"It's kind of weird that you're so casual about that."

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"I think it must be a cultural thing. You're pretty comfortable with the idea of alts, right?"

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"I like having them, but I also don't control whether I do or not, and I could understand if someone didn't like having them."

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"Well, people who don't want forks don't fork. I don't think I will do that for Warp, though, just have a rotation of a year or so."

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"We'd be happy to have some consultants in. It's a big project and we got found pretty early in it."

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"It's an impressive project! We will be happy to throw some talent at it!"

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"Why a year or so at a time?"

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"Going to have a hard time asking people from here to become citizens of a nation ruled by two of Cam's alternates. They'll be happy to be as helpful as they possibly can, but - as our people who are visiting."

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"Oof."

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"I'm sorry. Someday - but someday as the Elves count time."

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Nod. "I'm not really looking forward to explaining that to Epic. - That's what my Fëanáro named himself."

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"Keeping it a secret will probably make it worse when he does find out."

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"Yeah, that's part of why I'm not looking forward to explaining it as opposed to planning to skip it because it sounds like a bad time."

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"You are welcome to ask one of my dads for suggestions.

 

We helped him do it."

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"Loki mentioned. I'm not sure it'll help but I'll ask as long as I'm here. For context - my Valar gave me prophecies about Fëanáro, Alqualondë among them - I kind of freaked out - and now I'm probably going to look like a hypocrite or like he can't trust me or something."

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"Well, you'd have equally freaked out if you saw a prophecy you'd feed an inhabited planet into a black hole, right? There are lots of things that are pretty much always inexcusable that can be the least bad choice against an Enemy like Melkor."

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"Yeah, I'm just not confident of my ability to explain that to him."

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"We've all been having a hard time forgiving ourselves because - it turns out we could have just set ten of my father to interdimensional transit, it only took him a decade - it turns out we were adjacent to Edda - not that we could have known but with things like that you don't get credit if there were unknowns like that which you failed to factor into the calculations..."

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Nod.

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"Most versions of me are happily married -

 

 - sorry, I actually intended not to bring any of this up, today..."

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"I don't mind."

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"Findekáno thinks that 'don't commit genocide even when you have a ridiculously compelling reason' is a good heuristic and that the fact it turns out there were other ways validates the heuristic. He has forgiven us, because not forgiving us would not make anything better, but I see Island and Pterodactyl or the Vanda Nossëo set or Luster's and all of them have been through horrors that I got to skip and all of them trust each other totally unconditionally and mine has decided it's more constructive to forgive me the genocide he thinks I should have known better than to commit. I'm sorry I can't send you thousands of new eager citizens. They'll be just as eager and helpful as visitors, promise."

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"I'm sure they'll be great and we'll be delighted to have them.

 

I think it's a good thing Cam has alts because we're the only people he thinks he has the right to expect to be understood by instead of merely happening to."

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"That seems like a very good thing, yeah."

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"What's the best way to ask one of the Fëanáros here for advice on explaining?"

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"Lemme check who's not currently in the middle of something -" He glares at the computer and it flickers - "nope, none of them are free, it's always a long shot. I'll try to catch one for you the next time they are, ask them to hop over to Warp."

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"Okay. We can probably stall that long."

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"There's lots else for him to learn about, at least. Any other questions while you're here, or should I draw you two circles?"

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"Circles would be great."

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So he pulls one up on his screen and starts drawing on the floor, explaining as he goes.

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It's interesting.

And then she completes the circle, and receives a fairy, and amuses the fairy to no end by presenting her with something out of Maitimo's snack cabinet for her time via her own teekay, and dismisses the fairy.

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And Rúmil does the same thing, less the teekay.

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"Thank you for receiving us on such negligible notice. Can we get a lift to Vanda Nossëo?"

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"Yeah, sure thing! We're known as the place where you can always find a Maitimo who's not doing anything important, there being six of us and none having any planet-ruling ambitions."

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Snort. "I'll keep that in mind. Is there a politer protocol for finding one who's not doing anything than 'scan for Maitimos, address nearest'?"

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"Yeah, this sitting room here is where the Maitimo who isn't doing anything hangs out, the whole idea is that anyone can walk in with a question or a problem. Please don't pop right into the room, lest someone's present with a question or a problem they don't want getting that much attention."

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"Okay, cool. Thank you."

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"My pleasure." Pop. Vanda Nossëo.

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"- before you go what's the protocol to visit here."

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"Having an empire and only one of them per person, they're absurdly busy, I actually doubt you'll be able to find whoever you're looking for right away. But you can head to the palace and be told when they'll be free, at least, and probably get a tour in the meantime of whatever goodies they're selling on the market in Edda..."

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"All we strictly need to do here is get Allspeak and necklaces, and find Elspeth if she's around or go get her if she's not."

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"Palace for Allspeak and necklaces, and Elspeth will not mind if you just call for her."

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"I'm borrowing osanwë-as-protocol with people I can expect to be familiar with it, but I can't actually target someone I've never met - nor met an alt of - nor can I find her by species when I've never met anyone of her species - and my range is a lot shorter, too."

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So he waves down the nearest Elf. "Hello, this is the newest Arda and adjacent Bell, they're looking for Elspeth, do you know where she is?"

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Elspeth?

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Yes?

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There's a new Bell and a representative from the new Arda, here to meet you.

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Oh, where?

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She sends the location.

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And here's Elspeth! "Hi! I'm Elspeth, it's nice to meet you."

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"Hi! Nice to meet you too, I'm Boots and this is Rúmil. I hear you can speed up the acquisition of Loki's spells."

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"Yep! Not down to nothing, I have to go slow enough for you to process it, but by a lot. You'll want necklaces to use them for anything though."

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"We were going to go get those! Do we need to do that first?"

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"Not necessarily, they work retroactively, but I can go grab you some. Two?"

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"Four. We left our Fëanáro in Hex and there is another new Bell holding down the fort at home in Warp. We'll want you to come back with us if this is an okay time, to reasonableize my Valar and convince them not to let Melkor out, which my set haven't done yet."

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"Oh wow. Okay, yeah, four necklaces and I'll grab an Allspeak wand and bring that too for you and then I'll go talk to your Valar." She pops away and back and is holding necklaces, and offers one to each.

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"Thank you. These are Fëanáro's invention?"

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"Yeah, he came up with them so Loki would be able to remember things she'd read about Edda-tech-level science and engineering so they could build a nuke. That doesn't work, by the way."

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"We are going to try Melkor never being released in the first place as a containment strategy."

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"Hopefully that will work better! I have never tried to convince any Valar of anything in particular before, mostly just explaining incarnates in general, but they will probably believe me that it would go badly if they tried releasing him."

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"And that they horrifically wronged Bella."

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"I don't have the story there."

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He tells it. Very angrily.

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"I'll make sure to cover that."

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"Thanks."

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"So how does this spell thing work?"

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"Loki's? You memorize a set of two hundred nine atomic concepts and then the spells are millions of those long and you have to have them all just right. You won't be as good at using the illusions as she is because the spells won't inherently make sense to you but all the others pretty much do one thing apiece so they're not as hard. Even with me doing it it's like an hour for the whole set at human safe speed, so it's probably most efficient if I send to all four of you at once."

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"Okay, we can go see if Epic can be peeled away from Fannar's idiolect research."

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"Can you hop us to Hex?"

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"Sure." Hop hop. "Did you know that if we ever figure out enough about how alts work to pull it off Iobel and Mitros want a one of me?"

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"Awwww."

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"It's very flattering." Into the palace they go. Smol Elves might notice someone thinking loudly.

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Smol Elves are thinking about idiolects, actually.

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That's okay too, they can find him the long way. "Hi!"

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"Hi. Are you okay?"

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"Yes, I'm fine. Why do you ask?"

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"You look like you have a scary fever. Bella can probably help, she's a therapist."

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"...where did you get the idea I could do anything about fevers. I can't do anything about fevers. And I thought you weren't going to offer people my therapy services in front of people anymore."

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"I'm not sick; I don't get sick. Half-vampires just run really warm."

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"It's not a therapy service! And it's not a secret she's really hot!"

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"Why would my being a therapist make me any more likely to help with somebody's fever?"

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"There's subtle arts for sleep. There could totally be subtle arts for overheating!"

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"If there were subtle arts for overheating it'd probably be a pyrokinesis thing, and I don't have any pyrokinesis. And you said 'she's a therapist', not 'she's a subtle artist'."

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"Anyway," he says to Elspeth, "I'm glad you're not sick. Let's go get magic."

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"Okay." Gosh he's cute. Hop hop hop consult Boots hop here they are. As soon as T'Mir is retrieved from her work she passes out necklaces.

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And magic!

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"Do I need to worry that you'll run off somewhere that's dangerous even if you do know how to teleport?" Boots asks. "There are places like that; teleporting only helps if you see something coming."

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"There's way too much to learn to go explore new places yet! But I should get made indestructible. Or be a demon."

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"Getting made indestructible is a good idea, but we don't know for sure if indestructibility's fully general against weird kinds of danger, and even some of the explored places are dangerous - the world between Stork and Luster, say."

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"If I go anywhere dangerous I will be invisible and indestructible! And if I die you can make another space me!"

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"...no I can't. You aren't a Space Elf. Another fork of your alt isn't just as good as being able to get you back."

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"You could do a 12-year-old space me?"

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"Why would that help?"

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"Dunno. I'll be careful."

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"Good. The places we landed today are made to be safe places to stop when teleporting, but the worlds aren't safe everywhere and you should make sure to read up on wherever you're going before you go there, or bring someone who knows the place, or both."

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"Okaaay."

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"Good, that'll be a load off my mind."

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And after about an hour Elspeth has supplied everybody with Loki's spells, and bopped everybody on the head with the Allspeak wand, and is all set to go reasonableize another set of Valar.

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"Thank you!" Hop hop hop hop five feet back and forth and up and down.

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"You're welcome! Can I get an image of the Tanquetil I'm aiming at, please?"

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Yes, she can. "I think I'll come with," he says.

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"That's fine with me but you should avoid reading my mind while I'm explaining incarnates to them even though I'll be thinking really loudly, since I have to go well above Elf-safe transmission speeds to get through to Ainur."

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"Okay! Perhaps I will stay out of your range."

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"It's yea far -" She sends it.

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And when they teleport he pops that far from Taniquetil and stands back.

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Hello! Elspeth thinks at the Valar, and then she ramps way up: this is who she is and why she's here and how it has gone the other times she has done the thing are they all assembled is this an okay time?

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They are not all assembled but can get all assembled.

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She'll wait. For incarnate values of wait, which she will explain twice if it means assembly will happen quicker.

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That might be a good idea.

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Here is the it matters when things happen before or after other things even if the other things are "nothing", portion of the lecture!

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The Valar will assemble faster!

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Thank you Valar.

And once everybody is here she will get started on the boilerplate curriculum to provide context for the bits specific to this set. And she will take questions if they have questions!

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They have questions. 

 

One question is what they should have done about Bella giving the prophecied disaster of the Eldar powerful magic and making him into a malcontent who ran away to the Outer Lands.

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Well: they have noticed the thing they actually did did not help, right?

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Yep! They did that really wrong!

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So, she's kind of cheating here because she has met older Fëanáros and knows why they do the disaster thing (it is thus, thus is why), but armed with this better-than-prophecy information, trying to render him a non-disaster requires a rather thoroughly opposite approach and making sure he can get to the Outer Lands whenever he pleased would actually completely obviate the boats thing. This was actually predictable with information they had like "boats are for transportation". Since the Valar knew they couldn't avert prophecies and Boots could, trying to minimize her effect on the situation was kinda dumb on general principle; she was trying very hard to be cooperative about introducing the prosocial utility magic and not the setting things on fire kind.

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She was. Wow, she experienced a lot of harm! This is distressing!

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Yup. She was not confident in the Valar's ability to protect her - she still isn't even though she didn't die in Materia - and was pretty sure she was gonna die, likely horribly, or worse, and then she was pretty sure Fëanáro was going to get himself killed (cheaty extradimensional knowledge: That Dimension Kills Fëanáros, Empirically, So To Speak) trying to rescue her, and that he would try to rescue her was also predictable with information they had (he was very attached to her and a wizard and not nearly as inclined as Boots was to not do things just because someone said they were a bad idea).

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They are going to cry about this for a while.

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As long as they don't parole Melkor while they're crying. That's the other thing she's here about: they should really not parole Melkor.

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But the alternative is eternal imprisonment and also all the orcs will be trapped forever by their oaths.

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If they parole him because he says he'll be good he will totally be lying (here's how!) and then the default outcome is dead Trees and centuries of horrible war with no way to win it in sight during which the Valar mostly don't help (Ulmo sometimes helps a little good for you Ulmo). Elspeth's mama's alt would be happy to take all the orcs off their hands and give them free will but even if she were not available setting him loose to make and oathify millions more orcs would not improve on the situation. If eternal imprisonment is unsatisfactory and there is a way to thoroughly (THOROUGHLY) contain him for custodied transport to another dimension said alt would also be happy to issue the death penalty. Oh also Sauron's evil too where even is he these days?

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They don't really know. He shows up at parties sometimes.

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Well he's evil. Very evil. Sooooooo evil. (Those poor Maitimos.)

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They'll try to arrest him next party! And keep a closer eye on him!

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...in that order? If he's currently pretending not to be evil he may have affordances he's not using that he'll break out if he comes under open suspicion.

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Huh?

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Well, presumably he's not showing up to parties and telling everybody about his evil antics. Elspeth does not keep secrets herself but she's familiar with the concept! Sometimes the secrets people keep are things like being able to do more stuff than they have mentioned, and then it's a nasty surprise.

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Like, really prepared. For him to do evil things. Like take hostages or turn out to be able to move around in ways they aren't expecting or to have other evil helpers Elspeth doesn't happen to know about.

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...okay. Really prepared. Got it.

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Really?

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Yep. Like if it were Elspeth they were trying to arrest -

 

- suddenly Rúmil is miles farther away and the air stops moving and so does she - 

 

- can't pull anything, right? It'd work on a Maia too.

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Nope.

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Okay, that might indeed work (...could they please stop, she does need to breathe and Rúmil's probably freaked out) but she does hear that Maiar have infinity mana and this one will have had the chance to learn wizardry and secretly fuck around with it, so.

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They will consider themselves warned. Really.

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Good. Those were the important bits. Someone will be by to collect the orcs soon. They haven't improved on Mandos as a mass reembodiment solution even though he is really unpopular with the peal for reasons, so he should be ready to reembody dead orcs who require free willing. Any other questions?

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Is there anything they should. Do. About causing Bella lots of distress. And getting Fëanáro to come home to his grieving parents.

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Fëanáro seems to have kind of replaced his parents in his life and settled in to Warp but might be persuadable to visit as long as they could really credibly (here is what "credibly" means!) guarantee that visiting would not impair his ability to cavort about the multiverse. As for Boots, well, apologies are customary, but she's sort of resentfully terrified of them and might not want to come by and hear one unless they're really golden on the credibility thing. They could practice apologizing with Rúmil, who they just teleported several miles without warning as a demonstration.

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Okay. Sorry.

 

Rúmil blinks at them and then says 'can you give Bella infinite mana? Because I think she'll accept that as an apology."

 

They don't think they can do that. They could give her a Maia escort whenever she wants? Would she accept that as an apology.

"Maybe," he says.

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"The Maia would have to be okay with being an apology mana escort and not only do it because you said so."

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"I think," Lórien volunteers, "Olórin would be happy to be an apology mana escort. He was sad when we sent Bella away."

 

"Great," Rúmil says. "You can ask him and I will ask Bella."

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And while they are doing that are there any further questions for Elspeth?

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What do they do with Sauron once they find him, he hasn't done anything wrong yet...

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Are they like really sure of that? Like, Elspeth doesn't know either way, but it's not that far in the future by Ainur standards that he's Melkor's right hand doing evil things all the damn time, and it is totally possible the Valar have missed something.

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Okay! They'll check.

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What's the plan on how to do that?

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"You look seventeen."

"You're more than a decade off."

"Oh, my. Um. I'm sorry. You're a psychiatrist?"

"I remember med school like it was yesterday."

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Well. What should they do, then.

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She's not sure! Sauron at this point in the timeline has not previously come up. She doesn't seem to be getting any sourceless truth about it. They could make guesses about evil things he might be doing and check there first? Like, what would Melkor want done in his absence?

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Which would be all over on Beleriand and not where they're normally looking, yes?

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Yep. They will go look!

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And they shouldn't tip him off unless they are ready to arrest him right then!

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Yup! Understood! They'll be sneaky!

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...Valar can do sneaky? This is news to her.

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They'll enlist a Maia who can, at least!

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Okay, she assumes they know the resources at their disposal.

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They do! Thank you for explaining incarnates, Elspeth.

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They're welcome!

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"Oh boy. Uh, I haven't given any thought to non-verbal apology forms but if Olórin wants to be a mana pool escort that would be really nice? Pity they can't just use your idea but it'd be nice to have Olórin around."

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"And Melkor's staying jailed."

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"Good for Elspeth."

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"Might ask them, once they've got Sauron dealt with, for portals like Stork and Shine have, that seems like a nice idea."

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"It'd be great. And Fëanáro could visit his parents!"

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"Exactly!" Hugs. "Were we going to try to get Vanda Nossëo's empire-scheming?"

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Hug! "We were! T'Mir's going to bounce around on her own tour tomorrow to meet people and see places, and will not have a Fëanáro along to account for, so she says she'll park in Vanda Nossëo till whoever's best suited to handle that is free."

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"Sounds reasonable! That does mean I should go home so I can make my appointment with the Materian Finweans."

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"Yeah, we weren't gone long enough that she stepped in on that after all."

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"It was a delightful trip and introduction. Even if it's suddenly infinitely harder to keep an eye on him."

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"It kind of is, yeah. At least all the most interesting places have people who'll look out for him?"

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"That they will. Your alts are all lovely."

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Even the one who totally murdered his alt? "Thanks."

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"...do you want to talk about that? I haven't thought of anything useful to say."

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"I don't know that there is anything useful to say, it's just - weird -"

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"It is weird. I half-expect when we tell Fëanáro he'll pipe up that Cam needs a therapist."

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Snort. "I think he's a lot better now that Loki fixed it, he would've been a wreck before that - and is just being - really conservative about treading on other people's feelings about it in a way that involves performing discomfort and then making himself scarce? Not that it's not real just that he could put it away and he's not. Loki's sort of doing all his boundary-setting for him because he'd consider it inappropriate to do it himself."

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"It's very good he has her."

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"Yeah. They're cute."

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"They are! And Iobel and Mitros, differently - I think Fëanáro totally just failed to process that one - and I bet Kib and his husband and Gem and her wife are adorable too."

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"And Golden's married too, Elspeth's hers. Although apparently I don't get to meet her husband by default because he's weirded out by alts of his wife who look like her but aren't. The boy ones have met him."

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"Illusion spell? Suppose it's not as if it's urgent.

 

Elspeth's adorable."

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"Loki was the one who caused him to discover this and would probably have thought of it, so I guess it didn't work very well? And yeah, I'm not surprised Iobel wants one."

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Hugs. "I had a lot I was meaning to get done today, catch you later?"

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Hug! "Sure! Thanks for suggesting the mana thing to the Valar."

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"They asked how they could apologize to you. Giving you more powerful magic seemed the only thing appropriate, considering."

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"Take care, Bella."

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"Will do."

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And the next day he talks at length with the Materian Finweans, and they are persuaded and worries assuaged and want to send someone ahead to scout and plan for a larger-scale set of departures, and that is how Ferardrin is walking around the city asking questions when T'Mir arrives with Maedhros from Vanda Nossëo.

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"Welcome t-" T'Mir begins to say to Maedhros, but then she notices Ferardrin, "oh, hello, I didn't realize you were here already. Welcome to you too."

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"Thank you! We're, um, just looking around - we can evacuate you the whole kingdom pretty neatly if we're satisfied it's safe - sorry to interrupt something -"

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"It's all right," she assures him. "Maedhros, unless I'm much mistaken this is Prince Ferardrin of Nolordel in Materia; Ferardrin, Prince Maedhros of the Elentári Noldor now on Vanda Nossëo."

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"The cousin we didn't have. A pleasure."

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"Well, one of said cousins, you missed out on all seven of us. I was your favorite, though. We're offering what insight we can on how to do this 'galactic consortium' business while most profitably leveraging all the cool magic systems that have been found so far. You're welcome to sit in, there are probably useful wizardry interactions. T'Mir, is there somewhere we should go..."

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"There's a meeting room near my office which will fit us all comfortably."

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And galactic consortium talk. "We have a large population of flat Elves and have thus specialized in selling the galaxy things our magic can make - have a set of invisible goggles that give you Elven vision, you already hopefully have an eidetic memory necklace, we've also got one for working memory, we made artifact versions of Loki's accelerated-perception song but they're not yet in general production, here's the whole research-development-mass-manufacture pipeline for a dozen different products, here's everything we can do listed by sale price in the galaxy over time required to produce it. We haven't yet saturated our market but it's quite plausible money's higher leverage in your dimension than in Edda, since we've had a decade to work, so we're happy to switch over to selling here as soon as you have the same commercial channels. Commercial channels: here's how we did it -"

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Holy fuck I want one, he thinks by five minutes in, and at eight - Maedhros is explaining how to make it maximally convenient for Cam to make you things, which things have the best value-to-Cam's time ratio, what numbers you want to be selling them in to not collapse the market, the commercial niches of lightleapers and warp drive ships respectively -

- Maedhros looks up at him and thinks I married mine but some of the space ones are single, odd historical reasons, you should drop in -

- and then keeps going...

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T'Mir is quite oblivious to the subtext and just provides Warp context as they go - warp drive requires dilithium, it looks to casual inspection like at least Space Arda and Edda don't have it because in Warp it's otherwise quite unheard of to get very far technologically without turning up the concept, but Cam can make dilithium, but he can't make antimatter, they will need to consider sourcing on that -

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"We've been cheating with sourcing and with scaling production by having people spend their wishes. You only get one, so don't do it lightly, but a lot of Vanda Nossëo's people got the ability to rapidly make magic items..."

If the materially scarce thing here is antimatter they should give extended grave consideration to how to phrase the wish and then have some of their Space Arda immigrants come in equipped to make it somehow. Or they can stack wishes in the following useful ways - more on this in the associated documentation -

 

And here's Vanda Nossëo's procedures for contact with preindustrial societies, and here's their procedures for terraforming where possible, and here's a nice secure embassy setup that doesn't require handing out teleports left and right...

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"Ah, dropping tech boosts on planets, my favorite."

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"It's so much fun! Anyhow, that's not all we've got but it's all we've got that's worth delivering in person rather than via data dump. Pleasure to meet you both."

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"Thank you so much for coming. If I come up with any belated questions I'll drop them in the mailbox - Boots is working on a wizardry interface that'll let that propagate automatically without a teleporter but it's a month or two out at least -"

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"Oh, that'd be miraculous, the current setup's terribly inconvenient. My pleasure. And good skill with the project, please feel free to borrow people with specific expertise you need, please do send those belated questions unhesitatingly, please do bother me in person if there's anything important."

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"Will do."

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Pop.

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"...my."

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"Hm?"

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"This 'alternate universe versions of people' thing is being leveraged to do some very impressive stuff. In my home world we would all get squished by a flying brick. That was fascinating."

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"Your homeworld should be safely evacuated of people and irreplaceable items and then itself squished by a flying brick," opines T'Mir. "But yes, alts are great, I can see why Loki's so fond of Maedhros in particular."

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"He said I should go get us one."

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"Not to bring back to Materia, surely? We only suspect it can be visited by sufficiently conscientious persons consistently, and under the circumstances oughtn't expect consistency."

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"No, to bring back here. Materia, I agree, should be evacuated and squashed."

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"Glad we're on the same page here. We are expecting a batch of consultants from Space, I'm not sure whether to expect a Maitimo to personally accompany them or not."

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"I'll look forward to it. And I'm persuaded that we should be pulling our people out; how can we most efficiently screen them for you, and are we accelerating your evacuation timelines too much if we aim to move a whole kingdom?"

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"We'll be less mana-limited when Boots has collected her apology from the Valar by a long shot, and that was previously one of our primary bottlenecks. Another was architectural assembly, which we can end-run around by getting designs completed - or copying someone - and then asking Cam. Principal concerns remaining are cultural integration - we'd been spreading by word of mouth and limiting the offer to humans so far rather than try to deal with some of the colorful variety Materia has to offer right away - and retaining the ability to govern if there's unrest in spite of the fact that many practitioners of various Materian magic have been practicing longer than Boots and will find themselves suddenly just as free to research via experimentation as she is. We're not within range of any of the high precision hard counters so we'll need to rely on something other than the ability to make wishes or get Loki to wield infinity stones in an emergency."

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"I and most of my family will be higher-level than nearly anyone you pull in, but not enough you can lay that concern to rest entirely. Has Hex's indestructibility been tested against Materian magic?"

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"I don't think so. I'll add it to the list." She adds it to a list.

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"Thank you for your time and the tour."

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"You're welcome."

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And a few days later, once there is nothing obviously useful for him to be doing, he asks Fëanáro to give him a ride to Space Arda, and he finds their rather jaw-droppingly pretty palace, and he is happily pointed by the first people he asks to whichever Maitimo's currently on duty.

 

And he walks into the room and why the fuck are they so pretty, like a piece of art in motion, a piece of art in motion giving fast-paced talks on how to manage a science fantasy paradise, and he stands there and blinks at him stupidly, he should have thought of a question to ask if he failed on the spot to work up the nerve for the real one -

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"...yes," he says. "Close the door, I'll take a couple days off."

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He closes the door. And Maitimo slides gracefully out of his chair and across the room and is kissing him before he's even processing how they - how do they possibly move like that - and then he kisses him back, hungrily, the person he didn't know he was waiting for all his life -

 

 

(And much later - Elves can go forever, Elves did not know humans couldn't do this, and he'd be embarrassed if Maitimo weren't staring at him like all his dreams had come true in front of him, if Maitimo hadn't expressed again, and again, and again, that he was delighted to have a human one, delighted to be stronger than him, delighted at how easily he can leave little bruises -

 

"when you said 'yes'," he asks, eventually, fearing the answer, "was that 'yes I'll fuck you', or -"

"yes I would like you to be mine forever," Maitimo says promptly.

"I'm twenty-three."

"We fixed mortality!"

"I mean, more, I can't make commitments like 'forever'."

"Every day we have together, you can say 'I want another one'." His eyes are shining.

 

"Yeah. I can do that. All right.")

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And a day later one of the space Fëanors takes a break, sees the notes, and pops over to the new world.

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The teleport landing site is in a pleasant outdoor courtyard area; Boots is sitting in it working on the interdimensional message protocol. "Oh, hi! I'm Boots. Which one are you?"

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"Space. We don't actually distinguish internally, we're forking for the force-multiplier rather than differentiating. NIce to meet you. It sounds like you did a very nice job."

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"On what?"

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"Your Arda! It's lovely, did you hear how badly ours went?"

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"Yeah, actually I wanted to ask you how to present that story to your alt here."

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"Are there reasons he'll react worse than the rest of us other than 'he's twelve' -"

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"That and our Valar gave me out of context prophecies about Alqualondë about which I told him and was freaked out about..."

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"And with an alt of you you have the expectation he had a really good reason, and could maybe even have pieced together what must have been the circumstances given only the information he fed a planet into a black hole, but you don't have that confidence in other people, understandably..."

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"Yeah. I knew, I emphasized even, that I had very little context and didn't know why and that anyway it had no reason to happen as described when why would he need a boat he could just learn to fly, but."

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"I am very unrepentant about Alqualondë - thirty thousand dead and all backed up, more than that dying every single hour on Endorë and not all backed up. But if you'd told me a hundred years before it happened that we'd kill thirty thousand people I'd have been appalled too."

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"He asked me if I'd still love him if it happened anyway and I said I didn't know."

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"It's stressful having alts, because I think every one of us had built our sanity on the assumption that if we were just the most brilliant person in the world than some people - not many of them, but some of them, somewhere - would love us no matter how badly we screwed up everything else. Being redundant, having equals, is something I think we were all very deeply afraid of. But on the other hand - now we do have people who'll forgive us everything, who'll understand everything, who'll love us no matter what - we have each other. He has us too."

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"Yeah, I think Cam's leaning hard on that the same way."

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"You could describe the situation to him, ask him what he'd do."

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"- to Epic, you mean? Hm, could do."

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"I think he'll take it okay. I actually expect he'll have a harder time when the decisions the rest of us made which the Bells disapprove of come up."

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"He was clinging to me kind of hard when the oath and the boat burning things came up."

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"Boat burning was a mistake in flat Ardas only because they stupidly crossed anyway, their presence just meant more people were in the Enemy's reach and if my dear father's grandchildren by his second wife hadn't told Thingol about Alqualondë, we could have had the war won in a century and then sent back for them. Leaving people in Valinor is a horrible wrong but I hope it'd be understood by now that some horrible wrongs which end with Melkor dead sooner are worth it.

Oath - oath looks like it'll be a mistake in some settings, in mine I think that would have been worth it too."

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"I only skimmed the Luster files but it's not obvious that your alt there would've survived if they hadn't crossed the Ice, and absent him it's not obvious how they'd have won the war in a century even with a more consolidated population even if you assume that's an unalloyed benefit. Shine didn't have Alqualondë and Doriath remained mostly a nonentity in the offensive..."

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"I mean, yes, the conclusion Luster points to is that we should have stayed home. I just - can't regret not doing that, and once I don't regret trying I also don't regret making plans that depended on me living longer than three weeks."

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"Fair enough.

He also hasn't heard about Evil Arda."

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He nods. "What about it are you planning to explain?"

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"Undecided."

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"We work with that Fëanor. He's - honestly, I think in some ways being less concerned with being good enough as a person is psychologically healthy for my template. He's brilliant and perfectly good company unless you ask him to make moral decisions, and honestly, that's not what any of us are good at - we're good at seeing that something needs doing and figuring out a way to place ourselves on the path to it, not at performing goodness, so it's a less glaring fault."

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"There's a note in the files that Bells should not attempt to interact with him. Apparently we can go traipse around Evil Arda meeting the other evil alts all we want, visitor discretion advised, but not go to talk to him. I'm morbidly curious to go looking for evil Rúmil."

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"Imagine if you'd refused to teach Fëanáro any magic and told him it was because he was inherently evil. That is why Bells shouldn't interact with my alt."

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"I didn't say I was at all skeptical of the advice."

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"I do feel lucky he got killed before he got the chance to do anything evil, this'd be a lot more complicated if he had."

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"Yeah. There is also advice not to bring up the evil Maitimo unnecessarily around any of the other Maitimos."

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"Space ones handle it fine. The ones who went through Angband, yeah, you'll upset them. They wanted to kill him, but no one else felt that was a good idea. ...I don't suppose you could check about Vala-tampering, it'd be too neat and clean if that's all there is to it but it's our best standing theory -"

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"...I could probably actually check for that? Mandos at least when reembodying people didn't cover his tracks, like, at all."

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"Well. Everyone'd be delighted to learn that what's wrong with the evil Maitimo is some nonconsensual Vala tampering we can in good conscience reverse and get a good Maitimo."

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"There's kind of a gray area around tampering reversal, ethics-wise, if the tampered-with doesn't want it gone, but yeah."

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"He might want it gone. My son doesn't cope any better than me with people trying to keep him crippled for their convenience, he's just better at productively responding to it."

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"Huh. I guess I'll go visit then."

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"Good skill. I'm glad there's now a therapist in this eclectic mix of skillsets we've got."

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"I think my alts are sort of weirded out that 'therapist' is what we turn into if we're stuck in Materia, but yeah, it keeps coming in handy."

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"What I turn into in Materia is apparently 'dead'. I...don't regret that, same way I don't regret going off to fight the Enemy even though Luster suggests we don't win without external intervention."

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"It does thoroughly complicate getting that one back out."

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"Can't reach Materian afterlives from here?"

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"Tried to reach him by earwire, couldn't, so, not trivially. Could just be adjacency, could be something more elaborate."

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"When I read they couldn't resurrect him I worried. That's not typical?"

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"People can't be resurrected if they're dead of old age or a handful of other specific causes, their soul is trapped or destroyed by magic, or, general-purpose category, something big enough hates them. I'm guessing it's the last thing."

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"Yeah, probably."

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"I have on the to-do list to try earwiring him from other worlds until I've covered them all in case it's branched from somewhere."

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"That'd be nice, but we probably shouldn't count on it - can you earwire anyone dead, have you tried that..."

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"Yeah, I'm not prioritizing it highly, just, if I'm somewhere new anyway... I don't know many dead Materians but haven't reached the handful I've tried. It doesn't work for Elves in Mandos, at least the current design."

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"Alright. Then the other thing I stopped by to discuss was who you need. Xenobiology teams, presumably, life-extension and disease non-magic solutions are much nicer to scale, we've got lots of blueprints you can have Cam build from but I don't know if you'd want architects on top of that, engineers, do you need people to help you maintain control of the population..."

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"T'Mir should be involved in this conversation and you have managed to land the one time this week she's asleep. D'you want to meet your alt?"

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"Sure."

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And where is Epic?

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Reading all about all of the worlds! He will come when notified his space alt is here, and demand to know the development process for FTL travel, and be told all about it.

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Awwwwww.

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And eventually T'Mir is awake and brings her breakfast out to the courtyard too.

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He is trying to teach his alt enough math to read the paper that demonstrated that FTL engines should be possible.

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"Should I come back later?"

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"You should get a Maitimo," he says distractedly, "everything else is all people stuff and they're better at it. But no, now's fine." And he repeats the question he asked Boots.

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Logistics ensues!

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And Space commits the resources that'll be useful to them in federation-building and Materia-evacuating and planet-governing, and gracefully accepts some of Warp's advances and instructions on where they can look to conjure up more of it when they're back home, and the people will in fact be rotated in and out and formally remain Noldorin citizens, it's politically easier, is that okay.

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"Yes, that's quite all right."

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"Alright. Good skill. Is that all?"

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"Yes, thank you very much for visiting."

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"My pleasure!" Back to explaining FTL drives!

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And Boots goes back to her spellcrafting.

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Eventually it is explained satisfactorily and he hops home too.

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"I don't think anyone's told you the Space Arda story yet."

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"No, they haven't, is it not in all the reading material I've got?"

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"I didn't see it there, although I wouldn't have if it were a Fëanáros-only thing since I'm not a you."

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"All the Fëanáros only stuff is just stuff that'd bore anyone else."

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"Aha. Well, do you want the Space Arda story?"

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"Yes!!"

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"Okay. It's not very nice, they had the worst war -"

And she goes step by step through the whole thing, largely from Cam's perspective. He doesn't like talking about it but that didn't stop him from writing it up in detail the once so none of his alts would have to ask him clarifying questions.

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"So it's like with me and boats - you won't destroy Valinor and kill my family and all the Maiar and everybody, because you have better choices -"

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"Yeah."

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"I'm glad they were next to Edda, can you imagine if they were just all dead forever -"

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"Cam would've kept looking for a way - Hex might have been able to pull something together eventually, he found them before he found Edda - but it would've been awful. It was awful enough for the people he could bring back."

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"I can imagine how awful it'd be." Cling.

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Snuggle.

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"The people who loved Cam still do, right?"

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"I'm not actually sure how his relationship with his parents held up but he does visit them..."

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"Okay."

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"And he has alts and we get it, especially Loki, and Bells're pretty good at coping in general."

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"And all the people who died and lost their whole world?"

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"He doesn't go visit them. He doesn't think they'd appreciate it. They might not appreciate his alts dropping by either. So I don't know much about how they're doing. I hope they're okay. He tried to put their planet back as best he could."

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"This is not very good and I can't think how to fix it by being smarter."

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"Loki brought back all the dead Maiar and Valar, and I think they're probably patching up what Cam couldn't do with the replacement planet. I can't think of a way to make it better from there either."

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Squeeze.

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Squeeze.

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"I'm so glad we got you. So glad. And that things weren't bad enough you had to - to destroy Valinor - I didn't even think I cared about Valinor anymore but I'm sad so I guess I did -"

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"I'm glad I got there early enough and had good choices," she murmurs.

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"Mmhmm."

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Pensive cuddles for the luckily counterfactual mass murderers?

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Fëanáro'll probably bounce off eventually. She'll snuggle him till he does that.

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It's a long time, but yeah. Off he goes.

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And Boots notebooks a bit,

and then sends Midnight a polite note that she's a new Bell and is interested in visiting his world when it's convenient.

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And gets a response that she's quite welcome, he'd love to hear all about the additional worlds that have been found and once she's given him the news he'd be happy to put her in touch with whoever she pleases.

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Okay then.

She fills up on mana and lets people know where she's going and hops off to Evil Arda, the long way because she's not going through fucking Materia.

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It even looks evil. Well, more grand-scale and more symmetric and more orderly than the other Noldorin cities.

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Aesthetic. Hi? It's Boots.

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Hi! Come on in, I have lunch and maps and things.

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It's just slightly past breakfast in Warp, but maps and things sound great. In she comes.

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Warp? Tell me all about it.

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High tech and low or no magic depending on whether you count psi powers some species have. Crowded, like Edda. It has a native Bell who is not me; her peal name's T'Mir.

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How'd you end up there?

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So, I'm considering trying to coax people into ceasing to call your world Evil Arda, because my world, qua world, is in fact evil, and here is something else. Materia prohibits science! And hubris! On the level of the universe itself! I got into an Arda by magical accident and then the Valar kicked me out and then my Fëanáro - who is twelve - rescued me and we ran off to Warp instead.

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That's kind of adorable. Prohibits science? And hubris?

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Somebody once tried an experiment to see how fast various objects fell. There's a few miles around where they did that where down isn't. There was a Fëanáro there too. He died young. Three times. They couldn't get him back any more after that.

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Well, that's horrifying. I'm glad you made it out. Twice. 

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Me too.

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How can I help you?

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So it turns out that Bells in Materia don't die young, we've got more self-preservation instinct and we're capable of shrinking to fit. I have powers called 'subtle arts' which in Materia are a prerequisite to working as a therapist, which I did. The possibility was floated that I could figure out what's up with people here. Maybe fix it. Particularly if the Valar did it; I used to work with some reembodied patients...

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The Valar did a lot of tampering but it was all at least four hundred years ago; it's not really similar to undoing it immediately after it was inflicted, or, at least, I wouldn't expect it to be.

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It's possible. I certainly can't make any guarantees and probably won't be able to even after assessing somebody.

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Do you have someone in mind to assess or would you like me to raise the idea with people who might be interested and then point you to them if they are?

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I am curious if the Rúmil here is off or if he's one of the exceptions. Mine and I are friends. A Space Fëanáro speculated that you might be up for it yourself. But I abide by pretty strict standards of consent and this isn't especially time-sensitive so if that doesn't pan out and if you're willing to find people who might be interested that would be great.

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You're welcome to meet Rúmil. He sends a location. I would be curious if my head has been tampered with but would not want to be the first one to have tampering from five centuries ago removed, not when we don't have any idea what that does.

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That is reasonable. I don't even know if there is any, of course.

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You can check without tampering?

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Yes, I can do read-only.

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That you're welcome to do.

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Is there anything I particularly need to avoid looking at? Even if you don't want to tell me what it is, I can signpost it without looking and avoid it after that.

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There's a lot that's not mine to share. How do I help you signpost?

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If you can collect all the things you want signposted into a single category or some manageable small number and then focus on the category I can follow the concentration.

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...okay. 

 

And a pause. Alright, done. It'll be two categories.

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Okay. And signpost and signpost. There. Everything else is fine to check over?

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Yep.

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Checking checking checking.

You're under several mind-altering oaths. Did you know about those?

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Two, right? To hate myself as much as Elspeth does and to deeply searingly regret everything I ever did to harm Findekáno?

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...yes, that's all that's active, the others expired.

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Others were all time-limited so the Valar'd have less to meddle with, whenever it was approaching time for them to meddle.

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They don't look to have done very much. A little around your emotional range... raised your set point, I think?

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Huh. Didn't tell me, but I don't think I object - I'd otherwise not be at all functional, under the current set of oaths -

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If you prefer to keep it I won't touch it.

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Lowering it might make the multiverse crowd happy. Don't suppose you can change it just for when they're around?

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I can't put anything in a non-subtle-artist's mind that self-adjusts quite like that, no. Also she wouldn't be allowed to tell anybody what she did and in this circumstance would therefore simply prefer not to do it in the first place, she's not here to make Midnight better at looking pathetic to accumulate sympathy.

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I'm perfectly capable of lying to them if I wanted them to think I was paralyzed with misery, you know. I wouldn't ask to be actually paralyzed with misery for that reason.

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To my alts, sure, to yours, wouldn't count on it. At any rate I can't do the thing.

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Mine would be really easy to deceive on the specific point because they'd like to think under the circumstances they'd be paralyzed with misery. They're practically rendered nonfunctional just by the reminder I exist. Is subtle artistry transmissible?

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No.

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You want to talk to anyone else here who'd volunteer, or do you want to go meet our Rúmil first?

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If you have volunteers lined up I'm happy to see them now.

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Not already. Probably in an hour. We have an aversion to mind-altering magic due to how coercively it was deployed back in Valinor.

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Then I guess I'll go satisfy my curiosity about how Rúmil here is next, unless there's something else you'd like to talk about now.

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Usually yous are curious but perhaps Kib got to asking all the questions that'd interest any of you. There's nothing else I'd particularly like to talk about.

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I did read Kib's notes but I think it's also a contributing factor that I don't have a you.

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Then I'll see you later once I have volunteers.

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She nods, and she pops off to where he expected her to be able to find Rúmil.

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Pretty, symmetrical, austere. 

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It's almost vaguely institutional, all "we hired a really slick architect who forgets people have to live here" -

She can't detect a Rúmil-mind around. She will ask the nearest person for directions.

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The nearest person confirms that's his house and he should be in.

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...there is someone in there, but -

 

She knocks.

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The person also looks like Rúmil. "Hello?"

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what happened to you

"...hello. Is this a good time?"

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"...I'm afraid we haven't met. Rúmil."

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"I'm Bella."

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"How can I help you?"

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"I used to live in another Valinor, and I know another Rúmil," who looks the same and has the same name but bears only species-level mental resemblance what happened to you "and I was curious."

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"About what?"

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"About you. But if this is a bad time I can go."

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"Are you here by the King's leave -"

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"Which King?"

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"...the King of the empire?"

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"I'm new to the politics of this Arda but I did think it had several kings and wanted to check - uh, Maitimo told me where to find you, if he's the king you mean."

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"Come on in."

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She goes in.

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It's a pretty house. "Can I get you anything to eat? Drink?"

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"No thank you."

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"Welcome to this Arda. I think the jumpers call it 'Evil Arda'."

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"They do. I'm considering asking them to stop that but I'll have better luck if I can supply a replacement name." Pause. "I have powers that let me recognize people by the way their mind looks and - and for some reason you don't register like your alts. Maitimo does, it's not just being from here."

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"Were they prisoners of the Enemy?"

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"Yes."

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"Then I have no explanation."

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"I don't either." Pause. "If you want to let me I can look."

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"What does that entail, exactly?"

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"The same powers that let me recognize minds let me read them, but I only do that with permission. I won't change anything you don't want me to. Or tell anyone what I find if you don't want me to."

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"No. Sorry. Not out of - idle curiosity."

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"I've never undone something the Enemy did yet but I've reversed things a Mandos has done before."

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"The Valar did as much as could be done, when we arrived in Valinor. I think - two rounds of that - was enough."

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"The Valar here were unusually bad at their jobs even for Valar -" She sighs. She shakes her head. "Sorry. I don't mean to be pushy."

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He nods. 

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Sigh. "Sorry."

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"By your own account if you - did this, and it worked, it would involve me being replaced with a completely different person."

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"I'm not actually sure what might have been done to make you register differently. It's not impossible to do that without doing anything else, I could learn how if I had any reason to want to, but I'm assuming that's not the case here. I could tell you what I find without changing anything, if you want."

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"And I am supposed to take your word for this?"

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"I guess you don't really have a reason to do that, do you."

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"Not really, no."

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"Okay. I'm sorry for wasting your time."

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"Have a nice day."

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"You too."

It has not been an hour yet so she doesn't go back to Midnight's palace, she hops all the way back to Warp, the long way, because she's still not going through Materia.

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Where her Rúmil is working on plans for a second city, to accommodate all these new people who are going to be coming through.

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Can her Rúmil be hugged while he's doing that?

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Yes of course. What happened -

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Midnight told me where to find your alt in his world and I went and he looks like you but he doesn't register like one of your alts and I don't know why -

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Maybe the Enemy knew how to be subtler -

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Could be. Didn't look.

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Why not?

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I was some random person who showed up at his doorstep and he didn't want me to.

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Well, fair enough. Maybe I can try.

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If you think that's a good idea.

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I don't know. I didn't read more than the short summary on the problem Arda, you probably know a lot more than I do -

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The going hypothesis is that it's a cultural thing and all the Valar's fault but it's not a completely satisfactory explanation because it affected places they didn't have much contact with. A subtler Enemy would - would pretty neatly fill the gap, it could propagate from there -

- the Maitimo registers as a Maitimo -

We should maybe ask the adult Fëanáros how much influence you wind up having on their upbringings by default.

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Might be a good idea. 

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Midnight was going to ask around for anybody who wanted me to look them over for Vala tampering and thought they'd be assembled in an hour, maybe fifteen minutes ago.

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If you noticeably care about me and are upset about this, and that world's Rúmil'd agree to therapy if Midnight indicated that was an outcome he approved of, he has something we want. We should probably not make him aware of that. 

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I would not actually be very motivated by a bribe of "telling somebody to let me therapize them", it's not really how I think about it.

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If it were just the me that was damaged and an otherwise normal Arda I'd be suggesting we ask the King to bring the me into the loop on the multiverse and alts and thereby establish your trustworthiness. If his stated reason for not wanting tampering was that you were a random stranger.

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Very unlikely to be just him.

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Yep, I realize. Let's go talk to some adult Fëanáros.

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Not sure where there's likeliest to be an unbusy one. I suppose we can check Space first, it's on the way to anywhere.

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The Space ones are all busy. 

 

"We could interrupt, it's time-sensitive -"

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"Only insofar as it'd be convenient to have the input before Midnight expects me."

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"I suppose we can check the others first, at least."

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"Flat ones might be more parallel anyway."

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"Yeah."

Vanda Nossëo's busy. Shine's busy. Luster's is sitting in on classes at a Earth university and is happy to duck out of one early - "the pacing's abominable anyway. Rúmil! How can I help you?"

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"Hi, I'm Boots, I'm new. Uh, I went to visit Evil Arda and it has... a Rúmil, but normally I have powers that can identify alts of people pretty readily and he doesn't read like a Rúmil. And if the Enemy were - subtler, more competent - in Evil Arda that would make up the explanatory gap, if the influence propagated enough... so we wanted to know how much effect Rúmils have on your template's childhoods when I'm not around distorting the situation."

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"A lot. I - didn't get on very well with my father - Rúmil and I invented writing together -"

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"So if the Enemy were better at - warping people - and the Evil Arda Valar for all their extra tampering didn't counter the effect very well - have you met your alt from there, I think he's mostly been hanging out in Space, don't know if you've been -"

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"Heard the story, haven't been over except to collect equipment and a chip-locked computer."

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"Does anything you heard in the story sound inconsistent with the guess?"

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"If sufficiently nudged I'm a terrible person and some of my children very dangerously amoral ones? No, that fits."

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"I mean more that this source and quantity of nudging could do it."

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"...probably, yeah."

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Nod. "Thanks."

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Sigh. "Can you do anything with that?"

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"I am in principle capable of reversing at least some Vala tampering."

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"That doesn't do anything about 'raised by someone cultivated by the Enemy', it probably wouldn't have involved direct tampering -"

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"Yeah. Doesn't get very far. But it is slightly better than mere resolved confusion."

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"Good skill."

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"Thank you."

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"Do you want me to come with you back to Midnight?" Rúmil asks her once Fëanor's occupied.

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"It would probably make me feel better but if Midnight has found me patients you probably can't sit in..."

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"Could try talking to the me."

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"You could."

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"Do you think it's a bad idea?"

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"I don't know. I don't think it's a very bad idea, if it is one? I don't know."

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"I can also go home, get back to work, deal with this when we're not still reeling from it.

 

I'm touched that you wanted to go and look for me."

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"Well, all my alts have been remiss in completing their collections of interesting Arda people..."

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Squeeze. "Or perhaps all of mine have been remiss in not going and finding them."

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"Or that."

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"Go therapize. I'll talk to that world's me when I'm ready, I think."

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"Okay." Squeeze and off she hops.

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He has found a few people who are interested in her assistance and in being whatever assistance they can to the project of understanding their world.

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Cool. She will verify that this interest is their own and then do assessments.

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Yep. King told them about the opportunity and assured them she was safe and trustworthy but didn't give them orders otherwise. 

 

Most people have a lot of tampering.

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Which she will document for them and report on her confidence level in her ability to roll it back. Memories are easy, some other stuff is harder, a couple things she will want to refer to others altogether rather than risk trying to handle them personally.

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They are appreciative. "So," Midnight says, "I understand you can't comment on individual cases, but should we be prepared to be hosting Materian subtle artists in significant numbers for a while, and if so are there particular accommodations we should prepare..."

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"The ones I have available to send are all humans with human needs and there aren't that many of them yet. I can think of five who'd be able to handle this sort of work and they might not all want to come."

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"Okay. We can manage magic compensation, if that helps any."

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"Such as?"

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"How fast has the Edda crowd been distributing their goodies, should I assume those are all universal already?"

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"Pretty fast but not 'universal' fast."

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"So we can offer most of what they have, though no one here's allowed wished-on capabilities so it's much slower, and then I can get you a list of everything here that hasn't been developed elsewhere, I'll leave it in the mailbox. Only Noldorin empire with a majority-human population, we've got lots of things designed for humans."

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"I'm sure there'll be something agreeable. For Materian cultural reasons I'd rather you avoid personally interacting with visiting subtle artists much. It's not you, it's the being royalty."

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"If I decide I'd like to work with a therapist should I show up at their door in disguise?"

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"No, you ask me, and I find one who's been out of Materia long enough or see you myself."

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"Okay. I'll pick someone not scary and not royalty to interface with whoever you send."

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"Thank you."

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"...can you recommend me someone or have none of them been out of Materia long enough?"

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"A couple of them maybe; I'd need to ask. Should I?"

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"I'd appreciate it, yes."

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"Okay, I'll get back to you on whether there are any who'd be comfortable seeing you."

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"Thanks so much. Anything else while you're here?"

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"I don't believe so."

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"Alright. I'll get you that list of designed-for-humans magic items we can offer; I think a lot of people here would love to be untampered with."

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"I may have first interested artists here in a couple of days and some may take longer to pack. Where should I drop them off?"

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"I take it Materian hangups about royalty would extend to them not wanting to be hosted here? I can get some nice quiet houses on the edge of town, you can drop them off here -" he sends it - "and I'll have someone to show them around and so forth."

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"That will do nicely, thank you."

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"My pleasure. Good skill; I will look forward to meeting your people."

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She nods. "Have a nice day."

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He's working on how to bring the Finwean kingdom through safely and tidily. "How'd it go?"

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"I'm going to loan them some therapists."

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"...probably a good idea."

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"Yeah." Sigh.

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"...all okay?"

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"Yeah, it's fine. I think Evil Maitimo bothers me less conceptually than he does some of my alts."

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"That's probably a good thing, since I get the sense they don't intend to do anything about him."

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"Not soon, anyway."

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"Is there a long-term plan?"

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"No, but if it ever gets to the point where his kingdom's problems are from an objective standpoint more pressing than intervening in the next pre-warp civilization here or dropping infrastructure on the next Edda backwater - not all that likely unless worlds are finite, honestly - then one would be developed."

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"I am not sure what to hope for. It seems like it'll be harder in a century to do something about him."

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"He did want me to find a therapist who was comfortable working with a king."

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"Is that a promising sign?"

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"Maybe? I'm thinking I'll ask Professor Winters."

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"That makes sense. Some people who'd be fine with the royalty bit would take issue with him for other reasons; you think Professor Winters would be fine?"

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"I think so. She did do clinical practice before she started teaching and it's not something you take up expecting everyone you see to be a saint with their mind in perfect working order."

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"At least worth asking."

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"Yeah."

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Hugs. "Prince Ferardrin said he'd be back tomorrow, might start evacuations in his country then."

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"Maybe we can find more exportable therapists there than 'people I happened to know from school and work'."

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"That'd be convenient. If the whole population needs untampering it might take a while."

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"When should I go talk to the me?"

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"Whenever you feel up to it, I guess."

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"Alright."

 

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In that time a batch of therapists are briefed and installed in Evil Arda, Boots and T'Mir make time to visit all their alts, substantial progress is made on the interdimensional crystal ball transmissions, and Nolordel citizens are welcomed to Warp. Professor Winters is willing to see Midnight.

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So he sets up an appointment. "Thank you so much for your time. Boots warned me that it might be hard to find a Materian who wanted to go within a mile of the palace."

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"A slight exaggeration," says Winters.

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"Your world sounds terrifying. I'm glad someone's doing something about it. So, how does this work, what do you need from me?"

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And so she goes into a standard spiel on what therapy is and what it's for and the constraints on her behavior and the extent to which he will need to be on board with the program to get anywhere. She sounds like she has delivered this in lecture format for forty years, which she has.

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"Okay. So, maybe I can describe what I'm hoping to get out of this and then you can assess whether that's something you'll be able to help with?"

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She nods.

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"Most of the Ardas are much nicer than mine. Aside from Luster, which has absurdly powerful magic, their wars were shorter by around three centuries, their Elven populations are not tampered with en masse, and their human populations are much much smaller. But also, they have access to, and are deploying everywhere, all of the magic the multiverse can offer. Cam's done their cities and their infrastructure. Servants can do most of the agricultural work we have to do by hand, they don't bother with personal security because they're all indestructible, I understand it to be the case that wizardry can do healing as good as any Vala's that a significant fraction of our populace can learn in a year or two.


And we can't have any of that, because they don't trust me with it, and if there's any way at all to change that without just overwriting my head with someone else's personality, I think it is desperately important that I figure out how to do it."

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"A course of therapy will not directly establish trusting relationships with them."

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"No, I wasn't under that impression. But it could help me figure out what would, and if I can do it, and maybe change some things that are barriers to it happening?"

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"Purely social relationships are often improved in this way, but diplomatic ones less so."

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"So in your estimation, there's no actual prospects of making things better for my world, no matter what results from us working together?"

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"I can't comment on the sum total of prospects, but I would be surprised if my help were to be directly causative."

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"Alright. That's the thing I wanted help for, so if that can't be achieved then I don't think I need anything. Thank you for your time and honesty."

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"You're quite welcome," she says, and she goes back to where the other subtle artists are clustering to de-tamper people.

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And Rúmil goes to meet his alt. Writes a letter in advance, actually, sets a time.

"Hello," he says when the other Rúmil opens the door. "I think it might be a good idea to just start by telling the whole story? This was in 1179, I don't know how much the timelines had diverged by that point but Miriel was dying, Finwë was a mess, and Fëanáro was racing around being miserable, and that's when Bella dropped on us."

 

And he tells everything from that point forward. "So," he concludes, "if it were me I'd be curious what tampering the Enemy had done. If you're similarly curious I can vouch for Bella's trustworthiness. That's the whole of it, really."

"Around here people don't trust the dimension-jumpers much. The Enemy'd stopped hurting people, you know."

"Yeah, it sounds like they've been in lots of high stakes situations and made varyingly bad decisions. I'm not speaking to the trustworthiness of the dimension-jumpers in general. Bella I vouch for."

"You like her?"

"She's going to do a lovely job ruling this planet we've patched together."

"And so you jumped ships? How'd Finwë feel about that?"

"I am looking after his son. That is the most important thing I can do for him."

 

"I am curious what tampering the Enemy did, but I do not like or trust the dimension-jumpers. It's like the Valar all over, you know, coming in and seeing people who in their eyes should be different people, immediately punishing and tampering and getting terribly offended and making decisions in a blind panic."

"...I can see how they'd have left that impression, yeah."

"And then wanting us to act all friendly and grateful and corrected and cooperative -"

"It does seem like it might have been better if someone else'd made contact, someone who was less personally invested in the King's character."

"The King's excellent at his job. If I'd been crafted to make Arda worse I would have expected he'd be less so, instead of being equally competent but only instrumentally good. It's hurting our world now, of course, but it didn't hurt us until interdimensional contact happened and the Enemy couldn't have anticipated that."

"Maybe the Enemy likes evil to exist separately from wanting his opponents to be incompetent."

"Maybe."

"Do you talk to the King?"

"Of course."

"Of course," he murmurs. "Did he ask you to talk to me?"

"I asked him about it. He said that if one acted like it was a Vala, only with different preferences about how to perform deference, it was perfectly safe to be around you."

"What a ringing endorsement. He might be biased, you know -"

"Yes, he is. At first he thought they'd deliberately calculated how best to torture him without losing face, but I talked him around because I did not think that was a very reasonable read on them."

"Torture him?"

"Show up, demonstrate astonishing capacity for meddling with people on every level including with their very souls, 'accidentally' use this to set the Enemy loose again - do you have any idea what it was like to learn he was free - announce that the King is fundamentally an error and Should Not Be, kidnap his consort, give him ten years to make sure the world doesn't fall apart when they execute him - they left and he swore not to be too terrified to be functional and then set to dismantling our people, because what else do you do when gods decide you shouldn't exist and give you the courtesy of a few years to offer yourselves up with some semblance of dignity?"

"His consort, did you know -"

"I knew."

 

He shakes his head. "I do not think they're planning to kill him."

"Just keep the threat close to hand?"

"I imagine they do not conduct themselves like this towards people who aren't horrifyingly evil."

"Most of the thousands of years of mistreatment we have endured has been in the name of making us not evil and therefore deserving of not being mistreated."

"Have the interdimensional visitors actually mistreated you, aside from being appalled at the King?"

"And setting the Enemy free -"

"That was an accident - they probably didn't even set him free, just prompt him to leave - and they're looking for him, it's how they found us -"

"Forgive us for not taking your word for it."

"Are there other respects in which they have mistreated you."

"I don't know, because I don't know what they could have done for our world if they considered us worthy of it, or what this 'untampering' entails, but you can imagine we are reluctant to try it!"

"My understanding is that they are doing everything they can which doesn't make you more dangerous."

"Teaching people to read makes them more dangerous."

"They are also doing some things that make you more dangerous, just not all such things." A long pause. "...do you mind if I share this conversation with Bella?"

"Go ahead."

"Let me know if you end up getting curious about the tampering."

"Can you teach me magic?"

"No. I'm sorry."

"The teleport - no one could ever hurt you again -"

"I might be able to get you a suicide trigger if you want, I can ask."

"Will it help if I beg ."

"No, no, that - that's not the point -"

"With the other jumpers I could at least tell myself they did not understand what they were denying me, what they were denying everyone who'd been in the Enemy's hands -"

"I understand. And magic is too powerful and too flexible and you have been so edited by the Enemy you are a completely different person."

"So if I assent to yet another round of correction, from your Bella -"

"If you were you, no Enemy tampering, of course I'd teach you magic. But she wouldn't want you to feel coerced."

"Then I think you may have boxed yourself in a little. Of course I feel coerced."

"I understand."

 

And he goes home.

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Boots is swearing at her chiplocked computer and a crystal ball inquiring of them why they won't be fucking friends please c'mon WORK.

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"Well, I doubt this'll improve your mood, but it'll at least be a different flavor of frustrating?"

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Snort. "What've you got?"

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He has an eidetic memory necklace; he can send her the whole conversation word-for-word.

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"There's an abridged version of the teleport that won't get you out of the world but it'd still involve handing over the alphabet concepts, and we're only about forty percent sure that it'd be prohibitively difficult for anyone but Loki to make progress from those..."

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"It's not a good idea. I understand."

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"Suicide trigger's easy if he wants it though."

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"Can't figure out if the King actually believes 'the Valar, all over again' or just told his people that because it gets them the correct level of suspicious and resentful and protective of him."

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"I don't know," she sighs. "It is pretty neatly crafted for that purpose, isn't it."

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"Exceptionally so." Sigh.

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"- it sounded like it hasn't filtered around that the people most appalled by Midnight have in fact been through Angband?"

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"...good point, no, I don't think so."

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"I don't know if it'd do much to disseminate the information - or if it'd be believed -"

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"Might complicate Midnight's narrative. I don't even know if that's a valuable thing to be doing."

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"Suppose I could ask him."

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"...you think that'd help?"

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"I'm not sure. He was perfectly civil, which might or might not add up to producing a useful answer if I asked him 'so is there a reason your Rúmil thinks none of the jumpers understand the significance of not handing out the teleport'."

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"I suppose whether or not he gives a useful answer is itself somewhat useful information."

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"To the extent we can distinguish a useful answer from its absence, yeah."

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"We could run it by one of the non-evil alts of him who doesn't find the topic upsetting?"

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"Yeah, might work."

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And more logistics and more planning and more delightful borrowed magic.

 

(They get a space Maitimo of their own. He moves in with Prince Ferardrin as soon as he's handed off his projects at home.)

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Awww. And what does the convenient newly local Maitimo think of directly asking Midnight this question.

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"I expect we'll learn something from the answer, at least."

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So Boots writes Midnight a letter about what the citizenry of Evil Arda (she is contemplating pitching alternate names for it, what does he think of Shadow) have been told about the jumpers in light of the Rúmil's missing information, she would certainly understand if he hadn't prioritized being very complete about making sure everyone knew but it seemed like this omission was significant to Rúmil's understanding of the matter?

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Shadow seems nicer than Evil. Around here it's considered very rude to share that someone was a prisoner of the Enemy, most of them don't want to deal with the scrutiny and the distrust and the pity that comes with it. So I have not disseminated such information about anyone, jumper or local, and won't without being told by them that they prefer I do so. (Incidentally, your alts would have hurt Forever very badly by telling the peal all about it at once; I understand this was to some degree necessary so everyone'd understand their reaction to me but I hope they're at least aware that it was a very serious wrong to him by local norms.)

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And she forwards this to the imported Space Maitimo (Leaf, this one is Leaf), footnoted But Forever told Elspeth some things of what seemed to have been his own volition and had short hair until Cam fixed it so I'm not sure I buy that part.

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(This one is Leaf to Bells, everyone else still calls him Eight). Yeah, if it's true that's a horrible thing by local norms it's a horrible thing he did apparently without social penalty.

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I have the impression that while the exact extent of their recovery is privileged information the fact that your alts were in Angband is not especially?

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It would be kind of hard to keep a secret.

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So that's a practical matter and not one of preference?

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I assume they aggressively pretend to be fine for reasons that would also apply to pretending it hadn't happened, if that were achievable.

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So I can't just tell Midnight that they'd sooner have everyone know, or something, but I could mention Kib, he's okay if people know, would that help?

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The letter says 'without being told by them that they prefer I do so', I expect if you say Kib prefers it he will say "Kib is welcome to tell me that".

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Would it help if Kib told him that, or would we then get some campaign of differently discrediting jumpers because one of 'em is a rescuee, or...?

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Depends what he wants. I can't tell if he is trying for the moral high ground because he expects his people will side with whoever appears to have it or if he sincerely believes any of it or -

 

- I keep trying to imagine how I'd feel about it if someone'd showed up on our Arda, before the war, and declared something - I don't know, 'eating meat' or 'not removing kids' pain receptors' or something - it's kind of convenient how every world so far has ethics tidily consistent with mine, I have no trouble believing there are actually alien societies out there - anyway, declared something we were doing to be totally and obviously abhorrent, and explained we had alts but none of them did it and they had amazing magic and tech which we couldn't have because we were evil, and didn't even understand why we were evil which was additional proof we could never be trusted not to be -

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Eating meat that used to be an animal is actually considered pretty bad in Revelation and Cam doesn't do it anymore - well, it's particularly convenient for him not to - but he doesn't make a fuss about it.

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I don't know if that's even the right way to model what Midnight's experiencing, but - if so, it'd be particularly unpleasant and there's no way out of it. 

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Has anyone non-traumatized from your template even met him?

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No. I don't especially want to - he is a terrible person, it's just also possible to model what it'd be like to make contact with a universe of yous who consider you a bad person.

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I wouldn't expect it to be recreational, but I wonder if we're missing some insight because the only Maitimos who've met this one can't think straight around the concept.

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I can give it a try.

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And I'm curious if he has any ideas for what would constitute better conduct from surprised appalled interdimensional visitors.

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I'll ask. Is there a list of things to ask anywhere -?

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Don't think so.

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Sigh. 

He goes home. He kisses his boyfriend. He grumbles about how many interesting not-evil-alt uses of time there are. And eventually he skips off to Shadow and works quietly while he waits for Midnight to be free. 

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"Hello."

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"Hi, I wanted to bring you properly up to date on the new worlds, Warp and Telperion and Materia - none of them have an us, in Materia Father died young and Warp doesn't have a Finwean set anywhere and in Telperion it's 1182, I'm a Space fork who's moved over because Boots and T'Mir bit off a hell of a lot and T'Mir's the only person on their planet who'd heard of a computer six months ago and we'll be able to be a lot of use -" and he proceeds to explain.

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"This is the part where I want to ask questions but as soon as I do, whoever I'm talking to freezes up and tries to guess What I Want It For, a general love of magic and learning not being sufficiently explanatory, so I've gotten averse to even asking -"

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"I don't think there's anything at all you can do to get us to trust you, and if there were, it wouldn't work if we told you what it was."

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"Yes, I reached that conclusion also."

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"Boots wants to know how you'd like 'jumpers' to behave."

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"If there's nothing at all we can do to get them to actually be helpful, then the only axis they can really vary along is 'irritating'. They are successfully getting less irritating."

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"We'd like to be helpful, we just can't think of a way to do it that you couldn't leverage to do something awful -"

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"I'm not going to do that and I am sincerely lost as to why you think I would. We're within a hop of Edda, I'm not stupid enough to irritate gods who're already just looking for an excuse to kill me and I don't want my people ripped apart and mismanaged by your circus of hypocrites. If I get whatever you're offering Warp the only things I'll do with it is make this world a nicer place to live, and then find the next highest priority and make it nicer."

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"Can you think of a way to credibly commit to that?"

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"I can swear to it -"

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"By all accounts you're really good at loopholes, there."

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"Says the one who found an oath satisfactory reason to feed a planet into a black hole."

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"I can ask people what they think about designing a satisfactorily binding oath such that it's safe to give you magic and tech. I'm not sure we wouldn't expend more resources trying to manage you than we'd gain from having another standard flat Arda of people, honestly."

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"If that's true you are even less competent than I gave you credit for."

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"It'd helped if you stopped lying to your people about us and to us about what you're telling your people."

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"I swear that I haven't lied to you or to Boots or to Kib or in any other interactions since you landed here, screwed everything up, and kidnapped my boyfriend."

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"Also if you stopped acting indignant about that it'd help."

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"I hurt him. Inexcusably so. I don't know if he would have ever decided to forgive me, I do know he was where he wanted to be doing what was important to him, and if they hadn't overreacted he'd probably have decided he wanted a century off anyway but instead of spending it unreachable with his family terrified for his wellbeing he'd have picked somewhere he could have served our world, and come home when he pleased."

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"And nonetheless, it'll help a lot if you stop acting indignant about that. It's like the Enemy telling us how terrible we were for the black hole. If you hadn't hurt him none of this would have happened."

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"I know that. I'm not going to apologize to you, because you weren't wronged and aren't owed an apology. Doesn't mean I don't regret it."

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"Because it didn't work out?"

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"Because I care about him and if I'd been smarter or more prepared or thought faster -"

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"- or not raped him -"

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"Island was insistent that he'd never even find it tempting. That's convenient for him if it's true, but it also puts a bit of a lid on the claim to virtue."

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"My recommendation remains that if you want us to work on finding a way we can trust you with quality-of-life magic for your people you stop talking about ways other people wronged your Findekáno."

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"That'll be easier to do now that they've at least stopped."

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"Great."

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"When will I hear from you on that?"

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"I was thinking I'd stop by every couple weeks, catch you up, maybe play a game or something."

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"...okay."

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And he reports this to Boots.

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"That's maybe promising. This isn't too much of an intrusion on your time, is it?"

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"I mean, there's a case to be made that it's not the best use of it, but during the war I tried only doing things that were defensible as the best possible use of my time in that moment and it was in hindsight unwise."

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"Okay. If Ferardrin hasn't already walked you through basic arcana try not to double book over the cantrip party end of the week, we finally found a time when the busiest interested parties can be here all at once."

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"I will make sure to be there!"