Two wizards and two soldiers appear in the desert, a few feet away from a tired slave caravan.
They nod at each other and disappear again.
"There's four of us all mysteriously pulled from other universes. We have similar names and found you on the list of people with death insurance. Also matching personalities and parents - though not siblings, I'm the only one with a sibling so far unless you have one - other details too, clumsy, write stuff down all the time, that kind of thing -"
"I have very little sense of the value of local currency because most of what I've been pricing is magic and my universe doesn't have any magic, but if you assume that your guess is better than mine! Can you guys give everybody here a ride to Sothis?" she asks the wizards.
"We call them the Presger. I don't know anything about them because it's nearly impossible for us to communicate. They dismantled our ships, when they first entered territory they claimed, not that we knew. Just pulled the people apart, tissue by tissue. They didn't realize they were hurting them, I think. I don't know. They tried sending people they made. As ambassadors. They weren't like her but they were more like her than anything you'd encounter. But this one's a ship. For me. They know I love the ships. They killed them to talk to me, it was the first time they tried - it was a warning -"
"This is the most important - the only important thing for the survival of the Radch. For a thousand years I have not known what I needed to do. But now I do and - I need to understand her. They killed everyone I cared about to teach me one word of their language and they - they send me this to -"
"I was STOLEN. I am a human built AI with biologically human ancillaries just like humans' spaceships but the Presger brought me up. I was made to talk to humans. The Presger do not really understand about different humans but I noticed that my humans don't know anything about what anybody else's humans are doing! It's interesting."
- nod.
She looks at everyone else.
"They don't understand that humans do not act collectively, as one unit. The treaties all presume that we do, which means I have to enforce them internally, if anyone anywhere does anything that violates them they'll understand that to be humanity deciding to go back on them."
"This piece of paper says I cannot go back to the rest of me and implies the Presger is not even a little bit here. I can help anyway! But I can't help me help. It is weird to be only this much! Is it weird for you to be only that much? Are you too human to answer questions? The human said she didn't answer questions."
"It is weird for me to only be this much. Humans can answer questions. Some humans have protector jobs. They protect other humans from coming to harm. Humans do not like to come to harm because every body has all of them and if it's lost all of them is lost. Humans with protector jobs do not like answering questions. Other humans might."
"Part of the answer is that barbarian humans are wrong about lots of things but the other part is that barbarian humans kill each other with weapons that require physical strength to operate effectively, and the ones with penises also have things going on in their bodies that make them stronger. Much of the barbarianism starts to recede once they switch to weapons that do not require physical strength to operate."
He glares at Anaander. "Osirians have gender. In our world, the people who treat men and women differently think that the people who treat them the same are barbarians, because treating them the same results in unwanted children and then they abandon or kill those. We believe that men are suited to some things and women are suited to other things, though there are some things that both are suited for, and that people are most likely to earn good lives if the men and the women are given different responsibilities."
"Babies are screamy squashy grubs that take several years to ever be more pleasant than not to be in a room with. I'm pretty sure this is just, like, the elf opinion in general, because drow solve this problem with slave labor and surface elves solve it by slowly going extinct."
"No, I don't think so, lots of little drow children are sweethearts and the slaves mostly in fact do their jobs, I think that's the vicious propaganda campaign asserting that Pharasma is really racist because our ancestors got cooties from Rovagug and will condemn us all to the Abyss no matter what we do so we'd better get in good with any demon lord who'll have us and hope that helps when we get there."
"There is a lot of slavery. Even if you don't count drow men it's like half slaves down there. I don't know where the money'd come from to start paying for that much labor if you had to do it suddenly. Maybe a ton of trade with weirdly benevolent and non-racist surfacers if there are those to hand could make it work, I think it's at least a lot cheaper to grow food up here, but I don't know that there are enough weirdly benevolent non-racist surfacers."
"I mean, sure, if you want to call sending people to show up and murder all the drow they see because the drow are getting in the way of taking their slaves 'benevolent and non-racist', they're great at it. I'm not saying I can't see why the strategy appeals but people still die when they do that."
"We are sure putting a ton of projects on my plate for the next five days. If you want it to be sure to stick I'd need a lot of climate data and reasonable confidence that your climate isn't magic or anything, if you want the quick solution of a whole bunch of pioneer species seeded wherever I see sand that's easier but might just not work for some reason I can't precisely anticipate."
"When I've done the IUD continuing education thing I will be doing heavy programming shit to integrate the translation software and maybe if I hit a point where I'm stuck I'll go out for a flight and drop seeds, sure. To be clear, I might easily have way more than five days, I just have no way to be sure unless they think to write me a letter." He holds out his hand; it remains empty. "They haven't yet."
"'For the duration of my time away from my native plane or the next ten years whichever expires first, I will not use osanwë deliberately or prepensively to receive data from any person who has neither expressed to me their desire that I do so in the specific way I then do, nor been verified to have mastered private thoughtkeeping'."
"Annie dropped on me in a magical accident. I died shortly after that. She lived in Valinor and did healing and eventually died, I assume of old age. Mandos eventually decided to bring me back, almost thirty thousand years after I died. I spent a while becoming more functional. Then I got a human job."
"Okay. It's been impressed on us that being a Maitimo isn't a consistent character reference, in this case with respect to worrying about people who don't have months to practice getting mindread, but I think it could be important to figuring out what's happening that everyone be in one place. Do you have any suggestions?"
"I'm actually not a rapist? This seems like a sort of futile argument to get into but I don't punish people for being so compelling they matter to me because that would be self-destructive and stupid. He knows it was self-destructive and stupid but I don't think he actually understands how much, I think he's got a habit of - he writes things off because it's better than torturing himself with the hope he hasn't lost them -"
"That one - hurt people he loved very badly for a very long time. He did it because of some things about him that are not true of me, even though we are the same person. Even though some of my mistakes are sort of like some of his mistakes, I have not made that specific mistake and would not make that specific mistake. The other people will not believe this because it would be a convenient thing for me to say even if it was not true."
"There is an expectation among humans - and other sorts of people - that you not hurt other humans badly in the way that he did. When someone violates that expectation, the other people will punish them. They might kill them or send them to prison or hit them or take their money or make them apologize or turn them into a statue or just express anger in their direction. Since everyone knows this, fewer people will hurt others in that way. This is called deterrence. He did not know that other people would react this way - he was in a place where they would not react in that way - but the way that humans experience the motivation to react in that way is a strong internal sense of disgust and anger, and they still experience it even if it doesn't have any deterring potential in the specific case, and expressing it still helps deter other people around.
So if I had hurt people in that way, and did not want to be punished, I would tell you that I hadn't, because then I might escape punishment. Even if they suspected me of lying they might limit the punishment out of hesitation at the possibility they were punishing wrongly."
"We tried for Mirelótë's husband enough times that we should've been able to get him even if he's very good at throwing it off, and even with the limitation of not knowing him well. I guess it's possible that's some specific feature of her world and the others will work fine."
"Would probably have been one of your grandfather's advisors, involved in your father's life when he was growing up, optionally with a traumatic past of some kind, I assume if the name was very reminiscent you would already have noticed. But also my Maitimo isn't here yet, so you could try him. Tyelcormo is not on the right planet to get word where it would need to go right away unless he can convince Huan to help and Huan is only inconsistently willing to do things that aren't exactly like being a dog."
"I mentioned that Melkor tortured people and we only have versions of them rolled back to before that, because the ones who remember it don't want to exist any longer? That happened to her and she isn't a chip Elf so rolling her back would be a different proposition. She expects Annie to want her and would want to be there for that but otherwise it's unlikely we'll find a way to do better than nothing."
"It says, 'Thanks for the warning. I assume you have some reason to be terse and I await more explanation. I'll drive slowly if it takes long enough that I need to move on to get water, but have enough for a few hours. I have a crippling music allergy and prefer very cold environments if convenient. Tell Rirosseth I love her and I've been okay and got reincarnated somehow on a new planet.'"
"There are little software add-ons called blessings, and some are specifically marriage blessings that married Elves download to our chips, and one of the ones nearly everyone picks makes it possible to tell by looking that the person is married. Dwarves don't have chips but Elves who want to marry them can still get that one anyway, they just can't get the one that boosts osanwë range or a lot of the others because Dwarves don't have osanwë."
"In my world marriage is a magical soul bond that comes with enhanced abilities related to the other person, common ones being things like the ability to hear the other person whenever they sing, or feel when they're in pain, or always know what direction they're in, or touch them by touching your own arm. Being married is visible. Marriage happens automatically the first time a man and a woman have sex. It doesn't usually happen between couples where one member is a human, but it can happen if they believe it will work, in which case only the Elf experiences marriage but the marriage is normal from their side.
You can be married to more than one person. You can marry someone against their will, if they don't kill themself. It seems conceivable to me that there's a way for two people of the same gender to marry.
She wasn't married."
"They don't want to talk about sex at the dinner table because in most cultures it's a taboo topic, and also I think the pharaoh is worried we're all sizing him up for how badly he treats people, in light of how his entire society works and also how Magic is as a person, so he'd be happier if we talked about something other than his wives."
Mandos got tired of us. I - gave up - a while after you stopped writing - I don't really remember after that in much detail - it was a very long time - tried not to be at all interesting -
- and eventually she spat us back into the world. Me and my sisters and my mother, they didn't give Istarno a chance to come with, I don't think. And - we nearly starved at first, actually, but some people were faster than me at putting themselves back together. I think it was the same world. I guess I don't know for sure. There were supposed to be Elves who'd stayed but we didn't go talk to them, stayed away from the places we'd been told they were. No Dwarves. No orcs. Just humans. The place we'd landed was called Canada -
I didn't know you were alive.
When I arrived here there was a man who was a stone statue because he was an Elf and there's no better way to imprison us. While he was a stone statue he wasn't conscious.
I told them to turn me back into a person if they ever found you. I wasn't expecting them to.
"Gosh. Uh, I'm originally from a world where the magic comes in the form of artifacts which if a person touches them they each grant one benefit and one drawback. One day I had a traffic accident and six of them hit me so I have... a lot going on. One sent me to another universe but also means I can share and then unshare the effects on me, in their original pairs. That's where I met Rirosseth. Uh, another one's going to sound weird if I explain it but it's probably pretty key to understanding the story. It does a thing where not for everyone affected but for about ten percent of my sample it'll make them fall in love with somebody they know. In my case since I didn't get it taken off right away it didn't have to be somebody I already knew and shortly after I landed Rirosseth showed up and it was confusing. The corresponding benefit is immunity to other mind affecting stuff, though, my sample was a bunch of people called orcs who needed out of their oaths and it does that, about one in ten paired off. Stop me if I need to go into more depth on anything."
"I am aware. I do not want to get rid of it because that would for one thing probably wind up with her being a statue again and for another probably make it really hard to keep most of my memories of my life well-assimilated and stuff and for yet another would itself constitute a radical change to how my brain works."
"Aaaaanyway she was herself under an oath with the implication that she showed up in the course of stabbing people and then kidnapped me and I did not mention the love thing because it seemed like it would be awkward. She noticed anyway. Lírnith, her sister, decided after process of elimination had determined which side effects went with which good effects that she wanted to try the anti-mind-affecting thing in case it'd help with the oath, which she'd also sworn, and it did that and didn't stick her on anybody. We didn't tell Rirosseth that either. We all moved in with Dwarves and raised twin orphan half-Elves and I told Dwarves a bunch of stuff about technology from my world. Eventually Rirosseth figured out what we weren't saying and decided to try it hoping she'd get lucky and you can guess what happened probably."
"Anyway then the Valar showed up, the message was in Sindarin so maybe you know who they are?" At Ambela's nod, "They showed up and finally stopped Melkor. Lotta continent-shaking trumpet blasts, very hard on the music allergy, it's extremely painful. Our kids had gone to join the fight and we wanted to see how they were doing and also look into me deoathing orcs so we went to where they were hanging out. Someone didn't get the memo about not singing around me. Rirosseth charged in and someone murdered her. I finagled my way into Valinor so I could be there when she got out of Mandos and de-oathed orcs while I was there and lasted a long time but not long enough. Then I reincarnated on what I thought was a different planet but turns out to have been the same planet later because it seems like it's the same one Rirosseth was on when Mandos got sick of her and her mom and sisters and spat them all out, and I still have all my artifact effects and have been eradicating insect-borne illnesses in Sierra Leone."
"Music allergy goes with a regeneration power, it's pretty heavy-duty. I'm eradicating the insect-borne diseases by giving out the one that kills vermin on contact and it goes with feeling too hot all the time unless it's really cold - between that and the regen I'm actually safe and comfy in really cold places though. I'm blind and deaf but have a sense of where objects are for a ways out in all directions, works through walls and stuff like that. I have a polyglottalism power that conveniently overrides that, so I can hear voices speaking, and see text or sign, but not hear other sounds or see other things except I'm using Rirosseth's ears and eyes now. That comes with being faceblind which is a really minor drawback and if there are any Celebrendeses around they'll probably want it persistently. And reportedly she took after her mom and grandma in that respect." She sits down and takes the summary and a helping of curry.
"No, doesn't help. I'm mostly okay at tuning it out. When I was in Valinor Aulë fixed it by just actually giving me a cold aura that faded out if I went somewhere cold or if someone came close to me. Also insulated me for the music problem. Wore off after I died."
"We're a different variety of Elf. Everyone from Utumno was rolled back to a pre-capture state. Sometimes someone tries a rescue simulation of themselves to see if the continuities that remember it can be salvaged. They can't. I'm not sure in what respects your version differed."
"The wars. Wars are bad for people. It's more obvious with humans, because the Elves don't stop being at war but our humans do. Soldiers come back and they hit their wives, they beat their children. There's some stuff you can do to help them manage it but it took us a while to hit on it."
"There is not a law that they have to get married and no one can force them but there are not very good ways for women to support themselves unmarried, and marriage is supposed to be good for them, and you don't have very good prospects of an afterlife if you're trying to do some deeply unusual thing."
"Marriage is good for men and women because it provides commitment and stability, and good for men in particular because it provides them with motivation towards decency and honor and personal growth, and good for women in particular because it provides them with motivation towards generosity and affection and obedience. The afterlife that is best for most people, of the achievable ones, is Axis and you have to be lawful to get into Axis and it's much much harder to be lawful when you're doing things that no one has designed laws for."
"Men and women are pretty close to the same if you socialize them the same. There are some differences but they're rude to bring up, like how differences among people of different colors or from different backgrounds are rude to bring up. Rude means if you bring it up people will think you are behaving badly, even if the thing you said was true. The ways that humans are, though, depends a lot on their society. This society has decided to make its men and women very different."
"It seems really weird to consider it rude to say factual things about population-level differences in aptitudes. I don't actually know of gendered differences in much of anything except, like, odds of being a surrogate? Odds of breastfeeding? But if there were more I can't think why you'd want to have nobody talk about it."
"Regrettably it is somehow impossible for me to have a conversation with them about that. Maybe even if the express end goal of the conversation were for me to get them pregnant! Also other priorities, if nobody needs second helpings of anything I'm about ready to excuse myself and go work on your internet some more."
"It'd be really good, though, I think the internet does a lot of cultural levelling and they could sure use some."
"Cultural levelling?" asks Merenre.
"Like, people talk to people in other countries and good norms spread faster and dumb ones die out and Amentans could be a good influence on your culture, which is honestly very concerning."
"And then they all end up in the Maelstrom?"
"Yes, I know you have some reasons to hesitate about cultural change."
"Trade we're delighted about, though."
"Plastic; you can think of that sort of like glass except it's lighter and you can get it very thin and flexible and at our industrial level it's also cheaper. Electrical gadgets - catchall for things that do stuff like store and display compressed text and images and sound, or do something like a scry from a fixed location all the time at negligible marginal cost, or produce light, or do kitchen appliance stuff. I don't know how much of our medicine will be applicable cross-species or useful when you've got magic, but we can at least check that out. Fabric, plausibly, does what I'm wearing look interestingly exotic, I buy cheap mass produced stuff with synthetic fiber. All kinds of little doodads that are probably weirdly expensive or nonexistent here or haven't been invented, like pens and rubber bands and zippers and bicycles and chairs with caster wheels."
"Yeah, fabric is mass produced and cheap to the point where a shirt will cost the same in the smallest and largest sizes. Amentans will want to come tourist if and only if you get adequate plumbing and plumbing-related labor infrastructure handled everywhere they'd need to go plus assurances that everything they'd touch is clean to standards I get the sense you might find a bit exacting."
"I know. I - it depends on whether there's a way for Anaander, once she knows of us, to get here. There are lots of ways there might not be. It could be that it takes a Plane Shift and no one on your end can learn to do that. It could be that we figure out some way to reach Mirelótë's gods after all, and they're willing to promise to get in her way if she tries anything. It could be that when I talk with Abadar in the morning he'll have a plan. It could be that you can get enough social competence to keep our world a secret from Anaander. It could be that you or someone else will think of some other solution.
But if none of those things happen, then I don't see how I can send you home. I don't want the rest of Anaander to know about us if she has a way to come for us."
"It sounds like he thinks an informed Rubelite would wittingly or un- inform the rest of Anaander that Osirion et al exist and that she might somehow use this information to independently develop enough magic or sufficiently sci-fi tech that she then shows up here and conquers the place for its... nonmagical resources, I guess, since ex hypothesi she can in this scenario duplicate magic effects just by having the vague idea that this might be worth looking into, but maybe the place has interesting nonmagical resources other than sand I just don't know about? I'm not sure what advantage I have over Anaander in communicating that this sounds really weird as a thing for her to do."
"There's that - the locals don't actually know very much about how dangerous their magic is in combination with other information, but it's probably very, and we're postulating here that they can reach our world, if they can send us back. But the main consideration is the treaty with the Presger. The one that Rubelite might be able to help me renegotiate. The Presger feel very strongly about violence between different species. Humans killing humans, that's fine, they fundamentally don't understand what a human is so they don't care and I'm not sure I want them to understand what a human is because if they then extend their principles to object as strongly to humans killing humans then they might, just, hermetically seal all humans away from all other ones or something. Or exterminate us, for being so evil.
If the Presger find out about this planet then the treaty's broken and I don't know what happens after that but it's plausibly very bad. If I find out about this planet I will just try very hard to make sure the Presger don't."
" - telling all the world's nonhuman wizards what a black hole is and hoping one of them tries it might solve all my problems with respect to this planet and the treaty. Because it'd be some nonhumans that no longer exist killing themselves and some other nonhumans and some humans, not any humans killing nonhumans, therefore not a treaty violation, therefore nothing for them to be mad about.
I feel like I'm being very cooperative by pointing this out and you should help me come up with a superior solution instead of being mad."
"They don't think fast enough and they can't directly interpret AIs by having the hardware they run on - all they see is math and then they build some abstractions on top of the math, but not very good abstractions - and they don't have anywhere near the attentional capacity. I'd need hundreds of me to be paying all their attention if I wanted to do this."
"I haven't done this. I think - I would expect that there'd be inconsistencies because of how memories are stored. Degrees of ability that were inconsistent with memories of practicing those skills, periods of time where everything's accounted for but none of it was spent doing the things one would've expected to spend it on..."
I'm not really sure what to read into that. Anyway, there's a bunch of alternate universe versions of both of us here, I was the first to appear but there's also natives of each. Three of me are out of the room right now, look like this and this and that, called Cam and Cor and Rubelite who is actually part of a sapient spaceship, that one over there's a you, so's the one cuddling the me named Annie there, so's the pharaoh over there, he's the local and has protocol arrangements under normal circumstances like thus and such but they're presently eroding, that man over there is local Findekáno name of Hemaka, pharaoh's brothers are - She rattles off everybody's names.
At the moment Rubelite is upset because Khemet might not want to send her back to the rest of herself; Cor's trying to help her be competent enough at social maneuvering that she could reasonably contain the information, Annie and Pelape and Aitim are trying to figure out if that's the only thing that needs doing, although earlier Pelape and Aitim were talking trade arrangements with Merenre and Ismat. Cam's working on getting the place an internet. 'Magic' is trying not to get turned into a statue again. The rest of us are mostly just trying to keep oriented as things keep happening, but unless the appearances are very much nonrandom Cam's Maitimo is the only person yet to arrive, so we can probably settle into some long term projects as they seem our comparative advantage.
He doesn't seem to have impeded it, and the Ardas repeat. It doesn't seem exactly his style, though, it's too - I don't know, it's not exactly funny, but it's too far in that vein, even if something's set up to go more Eru-shaped later it lends a sort of silliness to the whole thing for this to happen in this way.
Apparently! It's more relaxed for everyone else, Masaharta has half a dozen girls in his 'household' and is apparently married to none of them, you can talk to those and Merenre's wife if you like. But no addressing the pharaoh's wives. Women are allowed to, if you want to feed me lines and borrow my eyes, though I'd want to make sure that was okay with Khemet since it seems to violate the spirit.
"We were told to evacuate, earlier today, and then told we could come back because there was a very mysterious security situation but it didn't seem dangerous, and then that it involved people from other universes no one knew about."
"We can hear most of the conversation but it doesn't make a lot of sense."
"I appeared first, and since then more people with my personality have been accumulating and so have people who match Khemet and are from, or passed through, the same set of worlds. As far as we know we're all here except the one who goes with Cam, the fellow with wings. Belmarniss, the purple one, is from this world and was collected more conventionally. May I have your names?"
"My life is very good," says Laila, "but I have a sister who isn't very happy, right, her husband's mean and she has eight babies and she doesn't really sleep. And of course she has no right to turn her back on any of that, not while she's alive. But the dead have no relatives, no husbands, no children, no titles, no duties, and she'll be able to rest, and then do anything she likes forever."
"I don't have any children yet but I think most of my people with children would not like to be considered to no longer have them on dying. And certainly if something happened to my husband or I we would like to still be married after whatever it was was fixed. But perhaps this is because people mostly don't marry mean husbands and only have as many babies as they feel ready for. ...also I think we need less sleep."
"You know, I don't think anyone's definitively established if there's one here. Though I suppose he might have died. He invented the alphabet we use, it's beautiful - he was one of the first people who understood that writing could be important and not just a novelty. He has a consistently wise, thoughtful perspective. He decided he loved me and then pined for a hundred Years - this is considered very romantic even though it's silly - before he told me."
"Hardly anyone wants more than one spouse and no one, even kings, is expected to. He has two because his first wife died and insisted on staying dead, and at the time he thought that would last indefinitely, and he wanted more children, so he found someone else who loved him and wanted children and married her too. Eventually his first wife was willing to come back and then there he was with two wives. They worked it out - the wives have since also married one another - but it's still a little scandalous."
"He's not king yet because he and his husband are concentrating on their children but his grandfather will retire in his favor soon and he's suited to it. He knows everyone and likes them all and is practically everyone's friend, gives out well-chosen presents and keeps up with their lives and so on and keeps everyone's goodwill when he has to mediate a difference. Likes to have a lot of conversations all the time - we can do that, we're telepathic intraspecies, he's probably pretty understimulated here."
"Oh. I don't know how they happen either, though I think all the Maitimos have matching families apart from mine being the only one with children so I suppose in their case you could push the question back a little. I haven't checked if my alts and I have similar families but we have similar habits of thought and personalities and, hm, prioritization modulo our cultural backgrounds and species. Though I'm not sure how long it would have taken us to figure it out if it were just me and the one who's part of a spaceship."
"She's with Cor now, they went to find her a way to write things down. My understanding is that normally she has such a good memory she doesn't need to write anything down - which must be really exceptionally good; I've approached good enough but haven't quite given up note-taking yet. But for the rest of us it's an important habit. I don't think he'll leave her by herself carelessly."
"It is, a bit! I seem to be predominantly women and Maitimo vice-versa but apparently some of our alts consider it more or less gauche to find the trait salient. Also Rubelite apparently has more human-shaped bodies and some of those are male, it's probably a coincidence we got this one."
"I could see some people benefitting from - a world specifically for children and their parents, that they graduate out of through some life event when they're around a century. It'd have to be watched awfully closely to make sure it wasn't hurting people but it's not impossible. But - wouldn't do it like this.
If we can't get home I think it might make sense for me to travel and figure out more local politics. I'm going to get forked if we're gone more than a month anyway."
"And he'll be upset if people bring it up but Cam went through an Arda having a second war with Melkor and in the process found it necessary to apply a black hole to that Valinor to secure a deal that got an oath out of the Enemy. He was in the middle of reembodying all the Elves on a replacement planet he made when he was brought here."
"Was there a point where you were like, gee, at my current level of caring-about-people I don't want to kill them by the billions, but if I keep at this, I'll eventually want to kill them by the billions, and then I'll do it, and that's as much my problem as any other looming threat that'll eventually kill billions of people -"
"I did not think I'd ever do it right up until the moment when I did it. I guess at some point I got inured to having smaller numbers of people killed because it was necessary to take over their planets which I was doing to protect the larger populations. But when I noticed that I was glad of it, because it hurt all the time, minding, and I did not predict it'd make me want to kill people without a reason denominated in people."
"I didn't send the people I needed - the ships I needed, but they were people - out into battles, because I knew it'd be bad for me, bad for the empire, if I lost them. Garsedd surrendered. I sent the ships to start logistics operations. Then they fired on them. Killed them all, which also shouldn't have been possible, but the Presger gave them the technology to do it, as an object lesson for me of some kind. It took me a long time to have reasonable guesses about what the Presger had intended and in the interim I thought that they might've meant to kick off a rebellion across the whole galaxy, that they might've intended the weapons to leave that planet and be turned against everyone everywhere. So I couldn't have anyone leaving Garsedd, and I didn't know what they were capable of since they'd just done several impossible things, and everyone I trusted was dead.
If you had described those circumstances to me I might've predicted what I'd do but when I imagined things going wrong for me I usually didn't imagine that much, in that fashion."
"Probably faster to tell you what helps? The best case is targeting a kid or somebody who could really use an Owl's Wisdom to the face, ideally not a caster, with a lock of their hair and something they own and a picture of them on hand, who you know really well. You can make do with a lot less than that but it increases the failure chance."
"There's three spells that make people smarter, so it's useful to think about there being three kinds of cognitive capacity even though that's definitely oversimplified. Owl's Wisdom makes you better at noticing things, exercising good judgment especially in a non-systematic way, and generally maintaining mental equilibrium. The other two spells are Fox's Cunning - that's the kind I use to cast, it's also the one for memorization and doing math or whatever - and Eagle's Splendor, that one makes you more socially gifted and kinda... shiny."
Yes, he isn't sure if the people who were helping him were likely to send a lightleaper straight to his summoner so he wants to pack as much infrastructure project into five days as he can, he'll probably slow down if he doesn't get dismissed as soon as that. I'm over here with the local version of your father - Sense-of-place, directions through the palace.
It's mutual. It's hardly the most regrettable thing in the scenario - taking 'the scenario' to mean really either of 'your Arda's context' or 'the apparently broad range of potential relationship paradigms between the two of us' - but I do regret that you and Cam weren't able to get very well acquainted given all there was demanding both of your attention.
I am mostly very encouraged. The spread of stuff we've got suggests - more ways to solve problems than I thought there were an hour ago. And even if this is all the instances of us welcome for this particular experiment it's probably not all the universes.
Of course most of them seem unspeakably horrible but then, so was ours until we got extradimensional help.
Magic's are worse and I don't know why, and Matimë's sound about the same as yours to start with but farther along and with more bad decisions behind them and a long period where we don't have updates on how things are going since they last chatted, but my first bet would still be mine talking to them.
That's my impression too, he didn't sound like he was going to drop everything and start trying to apply the force of multiversal exploitability to some worthwhile problem he just hasn't had the resources for until now. I haven't met him but I'm tempted to compare him to a narrow Maia and I don't know what if anything would cause him to make an exception to his habits. The deities may vary, some of them were once incarnates of various sorts. Belmarniss is sleeping but it's worth asking her when she's up.
That's good. He'll still want to fit a minimum viable project into five days just in case but he'll relax a lot when he realizes he has longer. If he gives you his list of people to resurrect and tells you where he was on it, will you be able to guess how inconvenienced they'd be by his absence for a more extended period?
"Yours. I predict they'll send to Endorë, not to your summoner, and I expect Endorë will think to summon someone to check where we are and before they try to get you dismissed. You could check this by pulling the flight log off the lightleaper, I'm less sure of the Valinor half of that than the Endorë half."
"I don't think he has kids. I guess you might want to conjure to check.
Under more normal circumstances I'd say just stay here for as long as you're needed, the Elves can wait, but under the circumstances I don't think you or I should decide that, probably. I think I'd write Ingwe explaining why it'd be valuable for you to stay, but letting him decide to call you back if he wants. But I don't have a good sense of how bad things are here - Khemet said there were multiple evil gods -"
"Well, I should at least check that, because I bet a letter from him'd go over better than one from any of us - the sister might still help, except that she is plausibly illiterate because Khemet's running his place off inherited lunacy - are you okay with the plan of writing Ingwe, if we can figure out what to say?"
Not while he's busy. I think it's less obvious than it would be since the first thing they did with him was stick him in an antimagic jail cell, so he isn't expecting this mistake, but diverting any of his attention out of concern for his feelings under any kind of time pressure would be - disrespectful. Next time he takes a break and maybe I'll get Rubelite to do it.
She's a hive mind like Anaander but an artificial one; the human bodies including what is visiting us are modified in some way to participate. I don't think she ever met a human before. Khemet has suggested that he might not want to let her go back to the rest of herself even if it became possible. She'd been coping all right before that.
Everyone around her was treating it as a probably temporary inconvenience - talking about trade agreements, Cam being in a terrible hurry, the scry on Annie worked - she was learning a lot of very new and very interesting things that distracted her, and - it's at least as distressing that he might have a point, that she might be obliged not even to try to get around him if he says she has to stay, it's not just that they might disagree and he might be hostile to her interests and try to enforce that. It seems to be an awfully personal sacrifice to have to make. Anaander doesn't seem to care on her own behalf about the missing body but I think she both has more bodies and considers them and their experiences less individually interesting to the whole.
"No one has arrived since last night, so possibly we are done. Some other good news: Abadar can see all of your planes except the Ardas, and expects magic to work normally there, though none of you have our afterlives. Abadar thinks neither the Radch nor the Presger pose a threat to Golarion, so you two can go home, though do note that if the Presger decide to go to war over something to do with our dimension it'll still probably be very very bad."
"Magic will work normally there. That implies they will eventually have very limited access to dimensional transit, in forms the gods can prevent if necessary. They monitor a lot of threats of comparable scale.
Abadar says those worlds are more distant and divine magic won't work on worlds that are too distant but that he can still observe some features of them."
"I think they have to have a referent there's a detection spell for. So you can have them only open to Good people or only open if someone truthfully speaks a sentence or only open to those of the right blood but you can't do, like, our own homebrewed definition of benign intent, there's no spell for that."
"That'd be my suggestion to start for Amenta to here, doesn't scale well later but lets traffic be under control. Probably the sentence thing for the other way around. 'This interdimensional passport was validly issued to me less than a season ago' or whatever. You could also do that in both directions."
"A small one for an access list preliminary to a big one for general contact sounds right to me. ...it might make sense to pull Cam off the internet project, we can do it especially if gates let cables through and then you can share ours and he can do something else. Unless you can reach and would rather be compatible with where he's from."
"Redundant, actually, 'enchantment' covers I think everything you want, it's the fucky school of magic. I guess in principle something fucky could be going on solely through things that don't constitute enchantments, like, say, garden variety holding his loved ones hostage or something, but there'd really be no reason for that to be set up before you got here given the availability of enchantments, how deep do you want to go?"
"If you're doing okay that plus the apparent range makes it plausible enough that I... just happened to get a bad one. I guess I can't rule out them being horrible invariably past a certain age, I'm not sure Annie would've drawn attention to it if Rirosseth has a rap sheet, but I can put weight on your vouch and Mirelótë's at minimum."
"Oh. Yeah, if you can get there, lovely place." His tail swishes once. "I mean they run a lot of the production on apsels, less on conventional factory whatnot, but they could get you internet if you can reach 'em and provide better after the fact customer service about it. Uh, information about how to summon us is on the public internet there though."
"So's the local but that's not prohibitive. The idea is that New Valinor has dibs on me and we're asking politely if I can stick around a bit longer to do infrastructure projects before I go back and finish reembodiments. I don't know whether to bet on him refusing me just because he hates my guts or being confused I even asked because a year here or there doesn't matter to them."
"I don't want billions of demons learning that they can make chip Elves in the comfort of their own homes so the story is the Silmarils do backup - they do - and I'm using that for reembodiments - I'm not. Silmarils are also too smart to make correctly so it'll hold if everyone shuts up about it."
"We lost a ton of people but also our planet and are colonizing a continent on the Arda, but, like, we're not too dug in to relocate if there's a better idea. ...where magic works ideally but we already can't keep using it to cook dinner and are working on policy there so replacing its more essential functions seems doable."
"I have some idea of how much of a handicap she is working at and I am very very impressed. And the phrases she uses are delightful, and I don't know if we'll be able to convey useful concepts to the Presger but I think we can at least end up on the same page about which things they need? And she's happy about good things and sad about bad things without - playing a lot of games on top of that -"
"Other things that should maybe be on our agenda right now: should we start systematically looking for more of us? Should we start looking for more worlds, in general, since apparently there are a lot more than we thought? Do we have any guesses on why we can't see the Ardas?"
"Looking for more worlds before having an approach to... approaching them... might be a mistake, gives us more to triage and hack at with what we have on hand, but I guess we could get lucky and land on somebody like Mirelótë's Valar early on and then thwack everything else on the list with that."
"Cooperation is much more robust than being adversarial. Being adversarial is only a good idea when your enemies are known to you to have certain ranges of capabilities. If you know they can't hurt you you can go ahead and be adversarial, and if you know they'll try to hurt you no matter what then it does, but under all other circumstances it's probably going to get you destroyed, whereas being cooperative gives you options later. Anaander and Magic were both evil when they'd had absolute power for centuries and had no expectation this would change, and - not, obviously, attempting to excuse them in the slightest - after they had tried being cooperative first and had it fail to get them what they wanted. I think a version of them who learned that there were powerful entities they needed to negotiate with, and decided to be evil instead, would be much stupider than they were."
"Has it got, like, Earth stuff - World War II, Diet Coke, penguins, denim, Paraguay, Buddhism, hamburgers, the Pacific Ocean, one moon with good eclipses, the United Nations, malaria, bad airplane food, Ferris wheels, Chinese Communism, Nobel Prizes, rubber ducks, Wikipedia, feral pigeons..."
"Norwegian is structually similar to what I grew up speaking and is from the right place but they aren't mutually intelligible. I don't remember enough samples of languages from elsewhere on my original to have tried to make more matches, it was a long time ago."
"I think there's an explore/exploit tension here, where you can be focusing energy and investment on your portal to Amenta and trading with them and you can be focusing energy and investment on finding more places but if you try to do both you might wind up being scattered and ineffectual. I guess you could be planning on making the Amentans do all the work, they seem really into the concept."
"Not necessarily but perhaps. - you know what finding a ton of worlds is good for? Dangerous tasks for Amentan wizards in their billions. ...Cam, I want my number seventeen blue notebook and Prestidigitation Vivisected for Pelape. And anyone else best served by learning wizardry now."
She writes a bit and consults with Annie on the languages the new one's paperwork are written in to fiddle with wordcount, and settle on: "Alternate universe yous accumulating elseplane with others. We can read written responses; outgoing messages more difficult. Seek information on: blue centaur aliens, desirability of transport." for a higher level caster than Belmarniss to Send through the ball.
Not a speck.
She's just sitting there, to all appearances.
<Hey, Finleran, a mysterious voice in my head wants to know if I want to come hang out with a bunch of alternate universe versions of me 'and others' and it's also curious about 'blue centaur aliens', any guesses what the fuck?>
<Said "outgoing messages more difficult" so I don't know if they'll clarify or what their other sources might be. Guess I can trot out the common knowledge. Thanks.>
She writes, in Chinese. The blue centaur aliens are called 谙哒来. They're allies and friends of Earth. I'm potentially interested in visiting but very busy and if it is possible to arrange might prefer to send a representative. If operating in this galaxy please beware Yeerks, brain parasites which control their hosts.
"It's a ninth level spell. I can do it once today; the other things I can do with ninth level spell slots in general are true resurrections - which are what they sound like - and Miracle, which is where I ask Abadar for a favor of approximately the scope of Gate or True Resurrection, so in general that's what we're trading off against, but I did prepare Gate today so the only thing we're actually trading off against today is a different gate somewhere else, such as Cam's world."
"We have located a higher bandwidth form of communication and can both receive voluntary-only replies in this format and duplicate physical materials on our end for reference if you point us to same. There are seven of us here who are versions of you in personality and other details, and seven likewise versions of one of the 谙哒来 whose name we don't know but he told us to talk to the Imperatrix. Are you the Imperatrix?"
"- but we expect the potential available in having seven of yourself to coordinate with and more worlds than that to investigate is worth the tradeoff. The other template of person accumulating here we're calling 'Maitimos' though names may be more or less similar, they're good at people and many of us knew ours in some capacity before arriving; do you have a guess who yours is to you?"
If you have impolite mindreading that'll do it. An MRI will do it. Two of them don't fit at once so if somebody morphs one and can't go in the ear you know. Every three days a Yeerk has to come out to feed in a special pool bombarded with special radiation so if you stalk someone that long you know. The imitation and control is nearly always perfect but can slip for a second or two if the host acts suddenly and the Yeerk is distracted. Uh, the Yeerks living on the moon, in pools marked "Amicus Terra" in Europe, and in humans wearing locked indicator bracelets, are friendly - they aren't a monolith - but any outside our system, or hiding on Earth, or in any ships in the system that aren't on Luna, should be presumed hostile.
We got them off Earth. Um, which we did by irradiating the entire planet and then handing out morph to try to reduce the impact of all the cancer. Most Yeerks are much more vulnerable to radiation than Earth life but there's a family of them that can cope so there was some mop-up after that and that's also who's on planetside Amicus Terra. Outside the Solar system the Andalites are continuing to fight them, they continue to have any humans they got out of the system and also all the Hork-Bajir, Taxxons, and Gedds minus the handful that were on Ristrell's ship when she took it over. Earth'll be well positioned to help in not too long, we're getting into position techwise to have our own military presence in space. For the moment there's no action here though.
"Hello, we're seven alternate versions of the Imperatrix and also seven of we think but aren't a hundred percent confident of Matirin who have been all swept together for a mostly nonconsensual conference of ourselves and have decided to exacerbate the matter, using local magic to address you. What is up with Matirin, she did not seem to be telling us everything - I guess you don't have to answer that either if there's some very good reason -"
" - I'm not sure. I like adrenaline sports? I have eight younger siblings, three of them full siblings. When I was fourteen I had my arm cut off for a week because I got in an argument about whether the criminal penalties for stealing were proportionate. I can't always tell if my husband's lying to me but I can always tell when he's lying to himself, which is more useful. His father doesn't like me."
"Findekáno has only three siblings - Maitimo, you should meet his, check which ones - and is good at blessing design which is a sort of computer programming for the chips we run our minds on, and, uh, has never had any limbs removed because that's not a thing we do... Fëanáro has mellowed somewhat towards him over time but it's still a matter of benign neglect..."
Oh no. Uh, our world had an evil god, he spent a long time arranging for my people to be on the brink of a civil war and then killed the King and stole some important magic stuff and fled, we followed him, there were some disputes over the succession, there was a bloody fight over the ships we needed to reach the other continent, my cousin helped us with that fight and was betrayed, afterwards, to learn we'd been the ones to start it - she kept following us - there weren't enough ships to take everyone to the other continent. My mother arranged for her loyalists to go first. When she reached the other side, she burned the ships. They were stranded with no way to follow us except crossing the northern ice, which took them years, lots of people died.
"Brain parasites sound very bad but this is sort of what we were worrying about when considering whether to look for more worlds, winding up with more problems than we have tools. Is there anything that's more costly in material objects or breaking the laws of physics than in logistics effort or design labor that you guys need?"
"Hello again, we got a better form of interdimensional communication but it does have a time limit and if we run it out and you want to let us talk to you more you have to allow it to work. We talked to the Imperatrix and she said it was safe to address you like this since we can get replies in telepathic format instead of needing you to sign or write."
"I'm Mirelóte Ambela, the rest of us who are similar to the Imperatrix are Belmarniss, Cam, Cor, Pelape, Annie, and Rubelite. We're given to understand that you're Matirin and an alt of - respectively by universe of either origin or waypoint - Maitimo, Khemet, also Maitimo, also Maitimo, Aitim, Rirosseth, and Anaander who is also named Maitimo but at least has a different name available."
<That'd be helpful. Ships are helpful, obviously. The presence of allies who will get annoyed about chemical and biological warfare is potentially helpful, though you want to be cautious about - incentivizing something better instead of just incentivizing loud condemnation of all the front-line commanders -"
<We were sent with Earth with instructions to ensure that its populace not fall into Yeerk hands if we couldn't save them, and with the means to effect that in a few different ways. We managed to find one that was relatively safe for the local populace but a lot of backup options weren't. On some other planets commanders have resorted to killing nearly all of the locals once the war looked hopeless.>
"Anyway, it's like, kind of high opportunity cost but still very much doable for us to visit your world or transport people from it, if that would be useful. Are you never in a position to write a letter, because that's the way you can get our attention albeit asynchronously if you want it when we aren't looking."
"Any physical medium. You can destroy it afterwards, I can copy objects that no longer exist as long as they did for any length of time. I can also do format conversion if typing works for you, even if our computers don't match, but I can't naively decrypt, though that only comes into play if it's never set to recorded form decrypted."
<Oh! Sure.> So he can explain how the Andalites encountered the Yeerks and how they became a spacefaring civilization and how they started conquering other peoples and how the war reached Earth and what happened on Earth and what fronts there were in the war last he heard and what sorts of weaponry and starships everyone has.
"So the way to get from here to there is via a spell called Gate, which is about one resurrection's worth of opportunity cost and can't be repeated too many times a day but can be repeated indefinitely given those constraints, goes point to point, can filter for certain magically-simple conditions but I'm not actually confident given the shapeshifting going around that 'is in fact a Yeerk' qualifies as a magically simple condition, we know of a kind of spaceship that goes point to point anywhere no range limit in five days, we're working on getting access to more worlds that are currently not obviously in range of the gate spell and when we've done that Mirelótë brings friendly gods to the table, and there are lots of littler spells and the magic items made therewith to be had but allocating lots of little things is logistically hairy and all of the things I just mentioned come from different places with their own problems and there are even more worlds with even more of their own problems except Mirelótë's world which is perfect."
"It doesn't scale that well but it could conceivably get to do that if some especially big nasty problems in this world - well, set of them - were solved, specifically the reason it's limited use is that various gods who suck various amounts are doing a balance of power thing with how much magic they get to give out and it's not obvious what would happen if the ones who suck less stopped having to appease the ones who suck more."
<The Yeerks did it when it started to look like taking the planet by secrecy wasn't going to work. Blamed it on us, though not very credibly. There was a while where it was unclear if there was a compromise that both sides considered an improvement on 'destroy the world'.>
<There was a last-ditch attempt to infiltrate the Yeerk ships in orbit because otherwise the planet was plainly going to get destroyed sooner or later. It failed. But it gave her the opening to stage a coup on behalf of a Yeerk faction that was willing to work with humans and with Andalites to arrange for Yeerks to get consenting hosts. I don't know if there are alternate universe versions of her but we're very much indebted to her and she figured out how to have a cooperative orientation towards people who were ...not really giving her a lot to cooperate with.>
"In addition to us, Maitimos, our families a ways out for those of us who are not spaceships but with some variance in number of siblings - for us, not you - there have been a couple we've noticed. Aitim identified Khemet's fourthborn brother Merenre's wife Ismat as an alt of her counterpart Isama from his world, Amenta, and also has an alt of Rabiah, one of secondborn Masaharta's - harem - who in Amenta is married to Makel. My Maitimo identified one of Khemet's wives Laila as his assistant Larya. This seems like a high concentration to find by casually rummaging around nearby but I don't know what general patterns to expect; it's possible that people with alts accrete around other people with alts somehow and if we visited a random village no one there would have any."
<I was very popular on Earth, it'd damage relations. It'll probably be fine in a few more years once people've mostly moved on and the alliance has surer foundations. Also I sort of put the Imperatrix in charge and we want her to be a fact of the universe before anyone unravels how she ended up there.>
"I mean, it's not going to knock me into the Maelstrom as a one-off but it's not something to take lightly, especially if there's some passing legitimacy to the original arrest, I can kind of see why a country would sanction its soldiers for irradiating planets and giving everyone cancer even if they were doing it for the greater good -"
"Morph is not an Earth Thing at this time because she wears the same kind of pants so it is probably an alien thing and you would have been allowed to destroy the planet since Yeerks would not have wanted that by themselves so it was not that you got in trouble for killing people and when you met the Yeerks they learned to have spaceships and then did bad things so then you made a rule! ...I think that makes less sense when I say it."
"Yeah. I mean, I think he did the right thing, but in doing so he broke a law that was not an obviously ridiculous law to have and then he went to jail for it and you do not, generally, get to break out of jail because you had a good reason for the original crime. I'd rather negotiate his release, if we can."
<How big are your polities? Do they have faster than light travel? Do they have glaring social problems embarrassing them, like, I don't know, slavery or poverty or inadequate access to medical care or overpopulation or infirmity? Are they going to look visually modern to Andalites - do they have brain-computer interfaces, do they have morph or some other way to avoid having to wear bulky spacesuits when meeting, do they have spacious starships, do they select their leaders in some fashion that rewards a career of responsible public service?>
<Andalites do too, they just try very hard not to make this very visible to outsiders. In that case I think one of the civilizations that Andalites will be impressed with would probably succeed at making diplomatic contact and allying against the Yeerks and then asking for me in particular if they wanted.>
"Uh, abbreviating a very long and fraught cultural history, most of us think the deity who sorts people into afterlives is racist and will not sort us fairly, and that they need to prep for that by ingratiating themselves to the people who rule the roost in the Abyss, and those people approve of child-murder. Also both we and our more socially acceptable surface-dwelling cousins don't really get why anybody would like babies, my kind's solving this with slave labor and the surface kind solves it by going slowly extinct, so it's not, like, particularly psychologically difficult to murder a baby. Some people have a harder time with girls, you're supposed to wait with the girls and see if we're useful or anything. My mother didn't have enough slaves around for twins."
"I didn't register a guess beforehand, which would have been more responsible, but I think I expect intuitively that in cases where there's a mix, if we find more of those, Maitimos and Curufinwës will match Fëanáros, Tyelcormos won't - that one surprised me a little so obviously my intuition isn't very reliable - Macalaurës will be male either way, Carnistirs and Ambarussa could go either way."
"...I was not a very adoptable baby as they go once I reincarnated, what with being blind and screaming all the time. I assume I screamed all the time because I was too hot and people didn't know about the music allergy and even before I remembered Rirosseth I missed her, but I have a normal amount of childhood amnesia about it. So I wound up with a family of the kind that takes in eleven variously disadvantaged children and aggressively attempts to Christianize them."
"I think I want to retry the rest of Annie's world-flung-people scries now that we know at least some of them work. We have an appointment with Bella tomorrow afternoon her time, in the event we don't call you again before then anything we should tell her for you?"
"Hello, we're a collection of alternate universe versions of you and another template assembled by mysterious forces and seeking more to capitalize on multiversal opportunities, you can respond telepathically to this message, a telepath on our end is relaying in both directions so we can all talk to you."
If you have any way to contact this person it is safe to do so as long as you do not share your name or any part of it. Or anyone else's name. There are other things that can go wrong but not just through communication.
Do not contact me again. Goodbye.
" - uh, I was just telepathically contacted by people from another universe who claim to know lots of versions of me and want to talk. It's not safe for me to do so. I'm hoping they'll agree to talk with you instead."
They can't use just a syllable, and they don't have vassalization per se, but unlike me they can get what's called 'entanglement' off even a nickname if you use it enough. The faery you initially addressed knows me as "Harmony". Entanglement with a faery makes you subject to faery rules, which they also follow. In addition to name based entanglement there is debt based entanglement which accrues or as the case may be decreases when between two parties at least one of whom is a faery one of them lies for an extremely restrictive definition of lying, commits violence, answers questions, exchanges or damages property, does favors, exposes the other party to artistic content, or performs sex acts. A subset of those things constitutes what is called 'misbehavior' - lying, violence to and only to someone you are indebted to, theft or destruction of property that doesn't belong to you. If you commit misbehavior while entangled with any faeries then you and everyone you are entangled with, and propagating out along their own entanglements with some decay, will suffer what is called 'misfortune', ranging from bad luck and headaches to worse luck and sudden horrible death.
"Uh. We could - if they have a phonetic alphabet - assign numbers to the letters, and both perform some mathematical operation on the number corresponding to the name, and see if we get the same output. To see if we're worrying over nothing and before spending a gate on it."
"One he can do by hand will not be very secure against determined hacking, but unless someone here is very good at mental math and can't avoid doing it, it should let us check without accidentally learning the name if we don't already know it. I don't think I will compulsively reverse-engineer the hash, so maybe - she -" he points at Rirosseth - "should only relay to me while we try this, to limit exposure to risk. Do they have a phonetic alphabet?"
"It's a problem that has to do with knowing things. If a chip Elf dies and then gets a new body they will still know things. If you die and we get a new bit of you and tell it everything you know except the thing it shouldn't know then that is different. I don't think memory magic would work worse on you than on them but killing you will work better on you than on them if the memory magic does not do it."
"The deal with her is that she has millions of bodies in another dimension and only one was brought here. Usually they are all in contact frequently enough to remain a single entity but they aren't getting updates from this one. We're recording her memories for her so they can have the relevant information edited out and the rest of it could be sent back to the rest of her later. Also you might not want her even if she were interested."
"Is it in fact an unproblematic solution to kill and raise this guy? I mean, for one thing we'll know his name all over again once he's back, and for another presumably everyone he knows will miss him while we're being slow about getting him raised, especially if it takes until dawn."
"Well, they're going to panic over the fact I vanished, and then do a lot of magic to try to figure out where I am, and when it turns up that I'm still here do a lot of magic to try to establish contact, and when that fails try to cover up the fact that I disappeared, and when that fails plausibly have a civil war."
"Oh, yes, that's useful. You estimate the value of your life in some material denomination, I give you that much stuff or give it to someone to give you, we pick something instantly lethal just in case, you have a heap of stuff that you can give the random cleric who can't guess your name in case that turns out to be expensive - is there any projected issue with this plan contingent on resurrecting your grandmother working as one would hope?"
"Is there a path between here and whatever cleric can do the resurrection without opening any doors? Should we have a plan for what to do with the gate after everything's squared away, for example does leafwings over there want to come hang out since being able to guess a bit of her name doesn't seem to be a problem yet?"
That's not enough to get me but it's probably enough for me to get you if I think the wrong thing. It's not a catastrophe, though, it doesn't do anything passively the way his version does. It would stop you from hurting me and mean I could give you orders if I wanted to.
"Well, she can write me letters now and then. I speak Quenya so you can just use the - a new Quenya mail label without my name in it. Is a nickname too special if no one associates me as an individual with it but the nickname is associated with the unknown identity of whoever did a thing that I did? I can just make something up if that's too entangly."
"I'm assuming here that something awful would have happened if they had lied to me about having been able to raise your grandmother from the dead but supposing that's not the case, or that they choose not to or fail at raising you for some reason, what happens to the stuff? Supposing the answer isn't 'they just take it all right back because why not', I guess. And the court, what are you going to do -"
"I think long term we'd fold back in with my mother's father, if I'm not around, but my mother's competent to manage everyone, she did it before I was around.
I don't - really expect them to raise me, it seems to require too many things to go right, but I think the entanglements should be gone. And we need the entanglements to be gone, a big group of nonfairies in another dimension isn't going to last a week without lying or doing something else wrong."
"I'd want to have some reason to believe they weren't going to do it themselves before I started slinging around enforced orders, since that would make the situation potentially adversarial and I don't, personally, have practice from that end, and I don't think I can derive all the names plus I need actual original names so it's possible they don't know each other's, but given all that I would sooner not let them just kill you and leave you that way."
"Well, that's drastic, but I suppose everything under consideration is drastic.
Your grandmother's probably in their debt at the moment for being resurrected unless the debt system completely fails to parse resurrection as an event. Given that I'm not sure killing you would even slow them down..."
I'm not sure if she's even in fact entangled with you. She'd be able to see it, so you could ask her, and if she isn't, then Lohte won't owe your friend for the resurrection and can buy her debt from you with what you use to get him in deep enough to kill; but if she is then, yes, that needs to be resolved for you to slow down, though specifically giving you objects isn't the only way.
I think the most popular options among fairies are violence and sex but I don't go in for those so I would need to ask for details about how specifically to calibrate it for whatever amount. Most other stuff is more time-consuming except for giving people items, and I don't know if she's still technically in possession of any stuff she might have had at the time of her death. If none of that sounds good it might make sense for you to sell me specifically her debt in exchange for some magical service, I can do magic pretty quickly but would need Lohte to gauge how much magical lighting or whatever it would take to cover.
"Would the lot of you like to consider my opening a gate instead of you doing it as a favor to you for which you're prepared to trade as much as possible of his grandmother's debt, and then check through there if name entanglement persists after resurrection by checking between Lohte's father and grandmother without any of you watching lest you also guess his name, and if it does proceed with the plan, including thinking of additional magic you might like done if a gate isn't enough to buy his grandmother's debt?"
"If I just do things on my own and the things aren't a standard debt-affecting category it doesn't count, but favors do count. My gates take varying amounts of time to settle and there's also some interaction I don't really understand with fairy paths if I start them from this world, so it might take me a few tries, and I have to manually close them and can't do that until they settle. I have some already that lead to my world and can start there if I can't make one large enough for full-size people here."
"I'll get to work on that, then. I think maybe if I go almost but not quite to the beginning of the fairy path, I'll be able to make it and then people will still be able to fit through, just not with as much margin as I'd usually leave. Lohte, do you want to get your father and meet me there -"
"Okay. So if we'd be reentangled as soon as he's resurrected then once he is dead we will change our plans and figure out how I can make sure Osirion is safe if I'm too sped-up to manage it and conceivably we should also try to figure out a modified, more stringent Zone of Truth and then we'll resurrect him once we can weather the entanglement a bit better."
"Okay."
She tries.
A moment later she steps through.
"Okay, I'm going to turn her invisible after I've watched her long enough to do that so who sees whom when is under more control." She studies the fairy. "It'd be nice to meet you all under less stressful circumstances."
"No, I'm not. Most clerics of our level prepare Miracle because it's very versatile but it's possible he didn't, or already used it. It's also possible that if he's just recently dead, Raise Dead will work, we know that Miracle works and that Resurrection didn't work without the original body but that doesn't mean it takes Miracle. But it might be he's not prepared and it takes until tomorrow."
"I could, but that wouldn't actually as worded be very protective against me murdering you all, not that I plan to do that. If you give me the weapon I will shoot him and then give it back once he's dead; I don't expect to do anything else while I have it; I don't want any of you dead; if I did, I'd still play nice until I was back with the rest of me."
The guy looks really confused. "Your grace, what -"
"The last one took a Miracle, for complicated reasons. If this one's easier - he died today - then great, I don't care what spell you use as long as he makes it. He might immediately vanish once alive, that's fine."
"-yes, your grace."
"I might be able to disentangle from that idiot. I'm not in a hurry about it, but if we got ahold of her and re-did some of that rigmarole with her and it cut me loose, would I be able to speed up and slow down just by manipulating whether I was in debt or not at any given time? Like I could consolidate all my debt onto one fairy, and then they could tell me they'd consider it a favor if I did some thing that's doable slow, and then I could square with them and do that thing whenever..."
"Without a hitch, yeah, we're all disentangled and nothing went seriously wrong. A cleric has a heap of gold, fairy dude has his grandma, my fellow winged person is gonna write us a letter, I guess there's a magical gate that goes between here and her place now so hopefully the letter explains that so Khemet's security doesn't have aneurysms..."
When Cam checks for a letter, it's pretty long. The gist boils down to:
- You can reply by leaving return letters on the floor near the gate, I'll check for them every subjective couple of weeks, maybe less often when I think you're all asleep.
- If I shouldn't wander around your building while fast for some reason please say so.
- Don't tell any fairies you meet but you can all call me Promise. Perhaps for the first half an hour after your reply you could all wear nickname signs so I know what to refer to you by amongst ourselves.
- What was the deal with being willing to murder one of you, that's seriously weird.
- Tell me all about magic.
- Also tell me all about alternate universe versions of people.
- There is a person with whom I am entangled in a way I can't just square. If I can get clear of her I might be able to speed up and slow down relatively conveniently whenever I like, which would be nice. Presuming we get ahold of her would it be possible for me to employ you in getting her dead and then resurrected to see if that works on this kind of entanglement?
- Here are a bunch of things I can do with sorcery, which seems to work in your world, if that's ever important.
- Do not wander around where I'm from. Don't even talk to people there. The tail risk downside potential is even worse than what you ran into spying on Lohte and that could have horribly killed hundreds of people.
- I keep running into wanting to do stuff for people around here and not having a way to absorb the debt and not wanting to be that entangled. It has been proposed that I could buy prisoners off people but I don't have a great idea for what to do with random prisoners, do you?
"We can definitely ask for more details. - the other thing we should do at some point is get in touch with the neutral good gods. Nirvana has an island for people they manage to squeeze into their afterlife who are super evil, and presumably they have some kind of arrangements to go with that."
"Gods do not have infinite attentional capacity and are not guaranteed to hear you just because you are talking to them, and might be annoyed if you start actively trying to get them to pay more attention to you when you're not even a follower of theirs. They usually pay attention to their clerics, though."
He writes "Pharaoh" on his.
"I guess we'd tell Sarenrae that we've made contact with all these other universes and if there are lots of secret goodies reserved for the forces of good then it might be good to know about them. More formally than that, of course, but that seems like pretty much the shape of it."
"It would not surprise me at all if she's willing to make some clerics if that helps us - assuming one can do that with people from another world. It wouldn't surprise me if they'll take, and keep an eye on, prisoners. It'd surprise me if there's a lot more going on, I think Abadar would have told me."
"I guess it's possible he wouldn't know about them? But that limits whatever it is to something limited enough the rest of the gods aren't aware of it, which makes it unlikely they'll tell us. I... would assume you want to be a cleric if you're not going for some other kind of magic? It's pretty useful. I guess maybe some people might want to hold out until Belmarniss is ready to try for godhood but you can change who you're a cleric of even if it's very rare to."
"Well, normal humans won't register because it's checking some combination of - what direction you're pulling the universe in and how much you're pulling. I suspect, being a spaceship, you are pulling a lot, so probably the universe doesn't just have a lot of data about which way you are pulling because you are pretty new."
"Well, we're all speaking different languages, so it's a little bit of guesswork what a given name is even going to sound like to anyone else, so you're more or less just picking a word or collection of syllables that you're fond of, except I don't actually - form preferences about words. I like actual peoples' names so I guess I could pull out a baby naming book and pick one - or the list of baby names popular in my year - but I know people with all of those names, so who am I going to step on? And if I really like a baby name I am going to name an actual baby that, I'm not going to use it on a nickname for invisible speed-up fairies, I don't like very many baby names and don't care to waste them."
" - well, people would be confused about the gender of your child, whenever you talked about them, and they would probably resent you for giving them a wrong-gender name, and people'd wonder what you meant by it... I really doubt they'd change their gender, people raised as the wrong gender still don't normally want to switch."
"Huh, if this had somehow become available without the attendant multiversal magic and the opportunity to be a wizard and stuff... no, probably still wouldn't have changed anything, you can't swap grey through Miolee unless you know somebody and it's not like I had a pen pal somewhere abroad..."
"They might not be able to do the conditional access, in which case we'll still want a lot of the slower kind. But for a first secret gate back to your world I think we should use one of hers; I can't do a permanent one until tomorrow anyway. There's a place accessible from the palace where we do gates and teleportation circles; I can show you there."
"Yeah, I'll write people who wouldn't want to stay but also wouldn't miss summonses if there were weird side effects. Amriac'll probably want to hang out with all the Macalaurës. I gave Valinor the Library of - uh, I gave them a bunch of media and told them how to send commentary and the curators'll have found them and their stuff by now, I haven't talked to her in a while but she'd be all over Elf music."
Cam gets a response from Amriac. "That's a lot of exclamation marks. She says that she demands Masaharta 'and all his weird string instruments, what even are those' be served to her on a silver platter. I think she's joking but if this is the sort of joke one shouldn't make around princes I can find someone else."
"She'll be delighted." He fiddles with a paragraph of legalese on his computer till he has it how he likes it. "I can't actually design a binding to prevent her from doing anything as specific as hitting on Masaharta if I let her talk at all, but should I advise her against? I don't know how your rules apply to guaranteed infertile centuries-old daeva."
"They... don't locally, I think I'd have heard of that, I think if you've got two people trying to true resurrect the same target then whoever gets the spell cast first wins outright and the second person gets spell failure. But locally there's a soul somewhere in the afterlives to yank. We should get Promise to ask that fairy what it was like to be dead. We should try resurrecting daeva who used to be human. We should try resurrecting Amentans, a dead Anaander body, Annie, somebody Cor knows who died in a magic accident and was annihilated, both kinds of Elves in various death-related conditions, whatever Promise is, and Andalites. Twice."
"I think what we're doing, with Miracle, isn't a proper resurrection. It's just asking Abadar to make the body stop being magically not a person. So it might work even if the person wasn't dead, if Abadar felt like helping with that. - we should also try all of the same things with Wish."
"Oh, no, you'll never have heard of me because Cam has had other things on his mind, I'm just here as a summoning experiment, I don't take randoms and won't mind if something weird happens and I can't any more - what," she materializes a weird citole in her hand and waves it at him, "is this supposed to sound like, you don't have recordings and I couldn't figure it out in the time I had before the summon came - mind, that was only a few minutes, but it just doesn't sound right if I play it like -" She strums it. "It's not supposed to be like that, is it, there's some trick to it -"
"- what is that?" asks Amina.
"Sphereflute. You can't play it. I don't mean you can't borrow it, here, take it," she hands it over, "just you actually can't, needs magic."
"Boo. This isn't why you called me over, is it, to hold a flute I can't play -"
"I can make other things, that's just the magnum opus."
Amina decides she was probably talking to her. "Okay, uh, do you want to come back to my room, I can ask Hadjara not to let the kids in for a bit -"
"You have kids?"
"...yes, that'll happen if you -"
"I mean I know how humans have kids, I've just never seen one in person."
"You've never seen a kid?"
"No! Except on TV. They're hard to come by in Hell!"
"...don't call it Hell."
"Whatever, lemme meet your kids. Do they talk?"
"The older one does."
"...I'm not a vocalist so the amount of human culture I've picked up by stealing their music is pretty limited."
"Since you can't get pregnant you don't need a whole setup where you make sure your kids will be fed before you have real sex," Amina says.
"Fed? If I wound up with a kid through some kind of shenanigan that'd be the least of my worries, I'd let somebody who's into that kind of thing have it -"
"...okay... well... you can't so it doesn't matter."
"It doesn't mean I'm not a girl. Apart from the wings I'm perfectly humanesque."
"I don't want to be treated stupidly or like some kind of genderless object. I know a de- a daeva who went through a period of asserting that his gender was the key of D major but this is no longer fashionable and was never popular, we have the same genders as everyone else. And furthermore I can't have kids and wouldn't want to."
"Okay, so, trial resurrect every kind of person twice - put in a query about that in the letter to Promise -" says Belmarniss, flipping through her notebook, "ask her if she'll do gates for the dimensional port dealie, what else is pending - trying to find that one bridge world of Cor's so he can get back to his colony and maybe move it somewhere else, I guess?"
"Plus our kind of magic doesn't work here, and it's one thing to have to cut way down on it and be out my chicken recipe and another thing to not have it even for emergencies. I suppose if I'm going to have that as a criterion I ought to bop around everywhere to check. Maybe there's a usable planet in our original world, or the one the empty planet's in, or a daeva can make one in one of those worlds."
"It'd be better if resurrection worked on old age - oh, that's another thing we should try, can you resurrect someone dead of old age if you have a young body on hand for them or is that still not allowed - and if you had good throughput on resurrection. Without that not so much."
"I see. So the mes did all pick nicknames, and they're all safe by my standard and yours both, is it safe for me to refer to them as individuals rather than being nebulous about it? Some of the yous' nicknames are safe for me but not for you and the letter writer has kindly assigned them new ones."
"The me's are Signal - she wrote the letter - Spaceship, Concerto, Tengwa, Ring, Point, and Glossolalia. Ring is the one from the world they're all in now. Yous are Blue, Number, Magic, and Tirion, those being the ones who safely if not cleverly named themselves, and Fraction, Jurisprudence, and Statue, those being the one Signal renamed for this purpose because they're too well known by their usual labels. Jursiprudence and Fraction are going by their titles with me and Signal's not sure that's safe for you, and she thinks Statue's just had hers too long. Jurisprudence is the native.
"Apparently Magic and Fraction are evil in a way which may or may not be a matter of ongoing concern, Signal's not sure how to predict them going forward, and Statue registers as evil to evil-detecting spells that Ring's world has but is not ongoingly concerning. Fraction's problem is that she killed twenty five billion people in a fit of temper. She's the one they were okay with killing, but mostly not because of that - she has millions of bodies spread across hundreds of planets back in her world and they're not sure it'd be safe in an infosec sense to send this one back to join the rest, plus insofar as this one has learned things they'd like the whole of her to know they could store that knowledge in a separate device so that if they decided to kidnap a second one of her bodies to have around instead of just doing without, she'd be caught up. She doesn't consider any single body very important."
"Before they found us they also found another world with another human me who is very busy and a you who is a quadrupedal furry alien in military prison that resembles a park. They have a meeting with the me in her next available scheduling block. They want to resettle the evacuated population of Point's homeworld if there's a better place to put them than a continent on Magic's planet where they are now, find a place for the Amentans to have a ton of kids - Blue and Signal's species really likes babies - revamp the afterlife situation to involve less torture and more resurrection, get everyone to the post-scarcity economy that Tengwa and Concerto's worlds both already enjoy, and turn Spaceship into a different kind of spaceship."
"Well, she's worried that they might not be their real names - I can't know till I have them identified more specifically than 'some evil god', though I might not have to actually meet them - and it's possible they're just not the right kind of thing at all, but it seems plausible."
Interested parties can get lessons in arcane magic from the person who tutors royalty in it.
Arcane magic is done by learning spells, and spells are complicated to follow and to hold in your mind; everyone develops a different shorthand for them, and even the shorthand can stretch several pages for a simple spell. Here's a longform account of a very simple spell; it'll take hours to get through, and probably weeks to be fluent with.
"They wanted to screen people for intent to steal the artifacts, I think was the ostensible reason? The only reason I could attend the school at all was that the mindreaders couldn't stop shouting curse words at the top of their lungs, it was pretty easy to keep out of their way under normal circumstances."
"...this was hundreds of years ago and none of my effects do memory. Uh, maybe it was the one where you couldn't use written language any more, or the one that made touching something very common... water?... really painful, or the one that made you need to sleep for most of every day. ...no, I think the sleep one was the one that let you identify artifacts without touching them, now that I think about it."
"Speaking of airports, unless you want this thing detailed down to the potted plants I have it specced out now, three cheers for computer aided design and this nifty utility that simulates pedestrian traffic flow. Was I at some point going to explain IUDs to some people?"
"There are lots of countries that are sexually liberal and make the math work out with poisons and infanticide, in those countries this'll just make the math work out without that and it'll be great. Maybe Osirion will eventually slide down that road but no one wants it to, and no one's going to be eager to shove it. But there are problems which people care about which it solves, like poor hardworking city families with more kids than they can afford to feed and minor nobility splitting and splitting their inheritances or shoving all their excess kids into dangerous occupations. Your - ideal introductory case here - is a harmonious family with four kids who can't care for and educate and marry a fifth or sixth. And then we can add some edge cases, like obviously prostitutes should have access so they don't kill their kids, but that can't be the public face of the thing."
"That's correct. There's also the equivalent for men - and more than the one I have a presentation about for women, but this is I think the best combination of reliability, ease of introduction, low-maintenance, etcetera. It's called an IUD, which in my native language stands for 'intrauterine device' but has been rendered into its own word over time." Slide. "Looks like this. Inserted into the uterus like so," slide, "it's nearly one hundred percent effective at preventing conception - until it's removed, whereupon fertility is immediately restored. Side effects include cramping, spotty bleeding, and rarer things -" Slide, list, he reads it out. "Questions at this point?"
"No, they don't do it themselves, I'm going to tell you guys how. If you'd like to, say, rethink the gender balance of this group for that reason, I'll wait. Fifteen years. Very rarely someone will claim he can feel the string and if that bothers your patients you can trim it for them. I am not intimately familiar with the capabilities of your magic but I believe it handles wounds and infections both, am I right?"
And that is his how-to presentation. He recommends based on historical experience with other human populations that they make these available without requiring husband (or father) consent, "but obviously that's a nonbinding recommendation, I'll provide all the supplies anyway."
"Cool. Let me get you starter packs of everything to get you underway on priority patients who have four kids under five and a laid-up husband or what have you, but I'll fill up a warehouse once I'm pointed at one." Everybody gets a totebag with a copy of the presentation and a few procedures' worth of supplies.