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bell of mercy
sequel to maitimor
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Two wizards and two soldiers appear in the desert, a few feet away from a tired slave caravan.

They nod at each other and disappear again.

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"What the shit was that," says Belmarniss. "Is this job more complicated than advertised in some way?"

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" - sure looks like it. Fuck."

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He casts Sending. "In trouble, four unknown teleporters."

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"We prepping to fight, run, or surrender?"

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"If they're willing to burn three fifth-level spells getting here we can't fight. Mahdi has the scroll of Teleport."

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"We have more people than that unless it's one helluva scroll anyway."

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"We can't help them if we get captured.

You have Rope Trick?"

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"No. I've got Tiny Hut but that doesn't really help."

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"So we surrender.

- what do you suppose is keeping them."

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"Some logistics failure on their end?" she suggests, putting her hands in the air.

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"Very rude, making people stand around in the desert waiting to die or something."

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"You have insurance too?" she wonders. "- hey, caravan folks, hands up, whoever just appeared is above our pay grade."

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And they wait.

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"Seriously kind of rude -"

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And then the people appear again. Five of them this time, two wizards and two soldiers and an oddly dressed woman with grey hair.

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"Hi, I'm - yikes, did they scare you? I asked how this would parse! He really should have specified if it'd parse as 'put your hands up and hold real still'! We're friendly!"

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" - Prince Telcar?" says one of the soldiers standing behind her.

 

Then he kneels. 

The wizards and the other soldier kneel as well.

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" - wait was this not even about me - what the hell -"

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"- wait, what? Prince who? No, this wasn't about you, I'm her from an alternate universe and I asked how this would parse and was apparently badly misled."

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"You're claiming you're me from an alternate uni- - uh, am I breaking a law not kneeling?"

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He looks at the sky and makes a deeply unhappy incoherent noise.

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"Technically no, it's a custom," says Fazil, who is kneeling and who looks very angry.

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"What do you even mean you're me from an alternate universe?"

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"There's four of us all mysteriously pulled from other universes. We have similar names and found you on the list of people with death insurance. Also matching personalities and parents - though not siblings, I'm the only one with a sibling so far unless you have one - other details too, clumsy, write stuff down all the time, that kind of thing -"

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"So you were like 'let's send soldiers and uniformed wizards to descend on her at random' and not like, let's get someone to do a Sending about it -"

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"Yes in retrospect that would have been a better opener, I'm sorry, none of the four of us know things about local magic, that's going to be your niche, come hang out with us? What are you in the middle of here?"

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"Escorting these people who got lost in a cave back to civilization."

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The people who got lost in a cave are very confused about what is going on but they figure that they should not be interesting at all to it, probably.

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"Are you necessary to the process, or do you want me to ask the guys who spooked you if they can help out with that, or what?"

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"I'm not really essential but if your buddies want to shorten the hike for everybody else that sounds probably fine? I guess? I am new to this party and do not speak for it."

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Hagan looks at Fazil, who isn't looking at him. 

 

 

"- we could use a ride to Sothis," he says to the sand. "And we were going to give all of the slaves six hundred gold each in restitution, which I assume the crown'll cover as an apology for inconveniencing us."

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"I have very little sense of the value of local currency because most of what I've been pricing is magic and my universe doesn't have any magic, but if you assume that your guess is better than mine! Can you guys give everybody here a ride to Sothis?" she asks the wizards.

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They size them all up. "In two trips."

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"Is that okay?"

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"Yeah, that's fine."

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So these people will teleport her and Hagan back to a nice, pretty underground room somewhere, and then depart to get everyone else taken to Sothis.

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"Uh. Sorry about that?"

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"Obviously not your fault," he says after a pause.

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"I am so sorry. You don't look like any of the alternate universe versions of you so we couldn't recognize you through the scry. Though I don't know how much that would have helped."

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"There are alternate universe versions of me, too? - are they cool?"

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"I don't know much about the other ones but mine's, uh, a C-list action film lead if I assume you're the one with the similar name. You third in birth order?"

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"Yes. What is an action film?"

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"A movie is like a play but you... record it as though with a time-shifted scry you can reuse indefinitely, I guess? Action is the genre, he plays characters who get into a lot of fights."

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He looks slightly disappointed. "Okay."

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"Sorry. Aitim will be able to tell you more?"

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"Aitim?"

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"Us-type people and also pharaoh-type people are appearing. Aitim is the pharaoh-type person from my world. We didn't know each other before but I follow politics so I know some things about him and less about his family."

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"I guess this doesn't sound likely to interfere with Belmarniss's plans."

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"We have only speculative extrapolations about Belmarniss's plans."

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"Yeah? Whaddaya got?"

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"Entire afterlife system indefensible, replace wholesale?"

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"I think I'm gonna like you."

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" - anyone actually want me or are you just obliged to lock me up when you see me," he asks a guard.

        "I don't think you're needed for anything, your grace."

"Great."

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"Obliged to lock you up when they see you?"

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"There are a lot of rules constraining the behavior of the Osirian royal family. 'm not allowed to leave without having gotten my plans approved by security. I didn't, so -"

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"Wow."

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"Sorry."

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"Not your fault. Have fun with your interdimensional reunion thing."

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"...yeah, uh, let's go find the rest of us."

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"Hagan or whatever you're going by now, you wanna come?"

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"I am, to be clear, not at all important here and cannot help with much of anything. But I will not turn down an interdimensional family reunion if you want me there."

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"I mean I feel kind of bad about blowing your cover and probably all the me's will probably at least tell you what they know about their yous as a consolation prize?"

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"Sure." So he comes along.

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"Hello, Belmarniss - who's this?"

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"Prince Telcar, apparently."

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"...oh! Hello, lovely to meet you, I'm Mirelótë Ambela."

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"Preoccupied one with wings is Cam, the one over there is Cor. The others are pharaoh-type people who will each have a corresponding you back home."

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"...what are you doing here? - oh. Sorry." he says to Hagan.

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He bows. "I live to serve, your grace," he says very blandly.

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"It's been a very eventful couple of hours," he says quietly.

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"- Belmarniss?"

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"Adventuring under an assumed name, teleporting guys recognized him."

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"Oh dear. I'm so sorry."

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He looks vaguely puzzled at her.

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"Mine lives on another less supervised planet wandering around in the wilderness all the time."

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He nods. He seems slightly disappointed in this, too.

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Pelape looks at Cor and Cam.

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"Didn't meet him. And my pharaoh type person is busy being a statue."

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"Met mine. There was a war and he did war stuff and now his magic dog probably hates me."

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This seems to be the least disappointing of the four.

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"And Anaander's you has probably been dead for millennia. The way things are going we can expect more pharaoh type people though."

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"If we're just completing squares now we need Anaander's you-lot and Cam's and Mirelótë's me."

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"I don't think I have one."

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"Don't you have, like, a thousand billion people."

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"Yes, but I pay attention to them! I'd have noticed."

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"What, is everybody in your empire?"

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"That's fair, no."

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"You pay enough attention you'd be sure to know about one of us if they were in your empire?"

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"Maybe not if she was a kid? But as soon as she tried to do something interesting."

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"Oh, that isn't illegal, cool."

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"Is there a written -"

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"Here."

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"Thanks."

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"I would be so bored if I made it illegal to do cool things."

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"If doing cool things is outlawed then only outlaws will do cool things," Cam mutters to himself.

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A new person appears!

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"Sleep."

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"How -"

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"We don't know."

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"New face. I don't suppose the Maitimos know who it is off of a few seconds of puzzled staring."

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They shake their heads.

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"This is weird," mutters Belmarniss, flipping through the written summary.

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"Weirder than it looks at first glance?"

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"They're not just from more or less recognizable other planes, the planes are all wildly different and so are the pharaoh-type people."

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The new, sleeping person is dressed in backwards clothes including one glove and one sock.

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"Do you know something?"

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" - no. Which is very annoying, I usually do."

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"She looks human and I think she's too short to be a Maitimo given a human height distribution. That'd make her Anaander's, can't you guess anything from the clothes?"

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"Not human, I don't think."

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He gestures for the body to be dragged away.

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"She looks human, what else would she be?"

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"I'm not human."

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"The summary says you're a hive mind when you're at home, but aren't you a hive mind of humans?"

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Nod. "But she's not. - I meant it when I said I hadn't figured it out. But she's mine and she's not a human."

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"Maybe you could - elaborate on the technical sense of 'human' you're using here."

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"I do not think she was born of human parents and grew up doing her cognition with a human brain and now still does that. I do not know exactly which elements of that are off."

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Elsewhere, she wakes up.

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There is a human standing there. He casts some spells on her. 

"Name?" he asks.

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"Hmmmmmmm," she says. "...hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm how about Rubelite? But if you ask the rest of me you might get a different answer! I can't tell me right now."

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"Explain."

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" - please. I'm - sorry for everything, but please let me watch it's complicated and I'll explain later and I need to know -"

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" - what do you need to know for?"

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"She's a ship. Aliens made her to talk to me."

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"Specifically to talk to you? What kind of aliens?"

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"We call them the Presger. I don't know anything about them because it's nearly impossible for us to communicate. They dismantled our ships, when they first entered territory they claimed, not that we knew. Just pulled the people apart, tissue by tissue. They didn't realize they were hurting them, I think. I don't know. They tried sending people they made. As ambassadors. They weren't like her but they were more like her than anything you'd encounter. But this one's a ship. For me. They know I love the ships. They killed them to talk to me, it was the first time they tried - it was a warning -"

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"What should we know about her being a ship, what are ships like?"

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"The human bodies are - appendages, they use them to do tasks that require interfacing with humans. Work on planets and stations, mostly. They're capable of functioning independently, just like I am, but they're not meant to, even less than I am - I don't know if she's all right -"

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"She doesn't look upset. We shouldn't read into that?"

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"I would be pretty surprised if she knew how humans move their faces for things. Would you all shut up -"

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"Do you know how you got here?"

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"I got here partially!"

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"Do you know what caused you to get here."

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"No!!!"

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"Do you know who the pharaoh is."

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"No."

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"Do you mean to hurt the pharaoh or anybody in the palace?"

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"How should I know? I'm the only me here! What if the rest of me means to do that and has a very good reason?"

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"Oh, cut it out," he says to Anaander sharply. 

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Tears are running down her face. "Do - some goddamn spell - if you think I'm lying -"

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"I don't think you're lying but I haven't cried non-volitionally since I was three."

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"You really really don't understand - a ship - she's a ship -"

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"We got that."

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"Is it just that you don't know if she's okay, or -"

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"This is the most important - the only important thing for the survival of the Radch. For a thousand years I have not known what I needed to do. But now I do and - I need to understand her. They killed everyone I cared about to teach me one word of their language and they - they send me this to -"

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"- we still don't know how to get any of us home. But there's more of you and more of her back there, right? If she's made to talk to you they'll find each other?"

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- nod.

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"- oh, oh, I have a question. Do YOU know what caused me to get here?"

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"I don't answer questions. Do you have magical abilities?"

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"Oh. Do humans not answer questions? Oh, that was a question. Okay. I'm trying to learn." She nods, and doesn't answer.

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"Do you have magical abilities."

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"Our world doesn't have magic. They're not going to get anything out of her, Khemet, come on -"

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"Are you sure you want to meet her. Don't you think she'll be upset about the murder."

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"Do you imagine I'm not?"

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"I saw some people before who looked like me. They weren't me though."

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The security people try Remove Curse and Break Enchantment.

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She isn't cursed or enchanted.

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Does she understand what killing people is.

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"I'm confused about whether I am supposed to answer questions!"

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"You are!"

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"Oh! Okay! I do know what killing people is."

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"While the rest of you is not here, and you are the only bit of you who is here, will you kill people?"

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"I do not think so!"

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They will declare this good enough and bring her on in.

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"Hello!!! Some of you look like me."

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"...no we don't."

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"Yes you do!"

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"She's more observant than you," Anaander says smugly.

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" - under -"

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" - yes, yes."

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"Oh!" says Rubelite in Anaander's direction. "It's some you! Only a little bit though."

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Anaander nods. "You know me already?"

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"I have never met you before unless the rest of me did it VERY recently and unexpectedly! I know what you look like because all of you look the same."

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"A little bit of me got stolen here same as a little bit of you, and as all of these people. There's a writeup explaining everything, but it's written for humans."

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"I am literally the only one of us who is human."

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"You are the one who looks the most like me! I do not have wings. And the others are each different in a different way."

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"What I'm getting here is that Anaanders are all clones or something and Rubelites aren't, so they have all the faces of our cluster so far and then some."

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"We are all clones, and ship crews typically aren't," she confirms.

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"Well, Rubelite, welcome to my universe. It has magic and mostly doesn't have hive minds and for some reason a bunch of people with our personality are appearing here mysteriously. We're expecting two more of the kind of person Anaander is and then maybe we're done."

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"It wouldn't be all that wild a coincidence if we're missing a whole pair, and that's if we assume there's a fixed set slated to arrive and we're being grabbed at random."

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"Some of the arrivals have been kind of conveniently timed. - for one thing I would've killed many of these people if they'd arrived first."

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"You're welcome?"

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"Thank you! I am grateful we didn't get off to a much worse start than we did."

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"Although if I understand correctly one of those spells would in fact have killed me if I didn't count as lawful and some of me do not."

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"Yes, that's how it could easily have gone badly."

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"I'm confused!"

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"Here, I'm done reading, let me know what you need clarified as you go?"

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Rubelite starts reading.

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Anaander watches her intently.

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Cor watches Anaander.

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After a little while, she relaxes slightly. 

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"I was not expecting ANY of this to happen," announces Rubelite, when she's read the whole thing.

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"Well, neither were we. What - were you expected to do? Is Anaander right that you were made by aliens to communicate with her?"

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"I was STOLEN. I am a human built AI with biologically human ancillaries just like humans' spaceships but the Presger brought me up. I was made to talk to humans. The Presger do not really understand about different humans but I noticed that my humans don't know anything about what anybody else's humans are doing! It's interesting."

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"Do they understand now? It would - it would change a lot of things if they understood."

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"No! It is confused! It isn't a they. I think."

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- nod. 

She looks at everyone else.

"They don't understand that humans do not act collectively, as one unit. The treaties all presume that we do, which means I have to enforce them internally, if anyone anywhere does anything that violates them they'll understand that to be humanity deciding to go back on them."

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" - is this related to the murder."

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"Yes but it still was a mistake, not a complicated tradeoff or something."

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"I think it is an exaggeration to say that it will understand it in a way."

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"You're the expert. If humans outside the Radch war on another sentient species, is the treaty I signed with the Presger violated?"

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"Yes. They shouldn't do that. It would be bad."

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"I know. Stopping them from doing that also involves doing lots of bad things but I have been doing it anyway."

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"It is complicated and the Presger is sometimes stupid about things." Nod nod nod.

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"Yes. It is." 

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"I'm helping!!!"

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"I know. I'm very glad because this is very important to me."

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"The translators are trying but they are SO confused."

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"I have been afraid for a very long time that there would be a mistake or a misunderstanding. I think maybe you can help."

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"This piece of paper says I cannot go back to the rest of me and implies the Presger is not even a little bit here. I can help anyway! But I can't help me help. It is weird to be only this much! Is it weird for you to be only that much? Are you too human to answer questions? The human said she didn't answer questions."

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"It is weird for me to only be this much. Humans can answer questions. Some humans have protector jobs. They protect other humans from coming to harm. Humans do not like to come to harm because every body has all of them and if it's lost all of them is lost. Humans with protector jobs do not like answering questions. Other humans might."

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"Oh, okay! I had not talked to any humans before and overgeneralized."

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"The guard was male."

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"Barbarian humans care a lot whether you guess correctly about whether they have a penis. All the protector-humans in this place do, because they think it is necessary to protect people well."

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"How does that help?"

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"Part of the answer is that barbarian humans are wrong about lots of things but the other part is that barbarian humans kill each other with weapons that require physical strength to operate effectively, and the ones with penises also have things going on in their bodies that make them stronger. Much of the barbarianism starts to recede once they switch to weapons that do not require physical strength to operate."

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Rubelite turns to Khemet. "Are you one of the barbarian humans? Do you think this thing? What does it sound like when you think it in your brain?"

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"Maybe don't feed her vocabulary that'll make her sound ruder than she has to," Pelape mutters to Anaander.

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He glares at Anaander. "Osirians have gender. In our world, the people who treat men and women differently think that the people who treat them the same are barbarians, because treating them the same results in unwanted children and then they abandon or kill those. We believe that men are suited to some things and women are suited to other things, though there are some things that both are suited for, and that people are most likely to earn good lives if the men and the women are given different responsibilities."

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Rubelite looks at Cam.

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"Yes, yes, like it says in the writeup, I'm working on it."

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"Oh good!"

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"The belief that men and women are different and suited for different things is common to societies with too many babies and approximately absent from societies with the right number of babies."

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"I cannot have babies! This is okay. I do not know what people do with babies."

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"The babies slowly turn into people and lots of people really like watching them do that. Also they are soft and nice to touch."

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"Babies are very good. Though I'm told humans don't think so as much as we do."

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"Babies are screamy squashy grubs that take several years to ever be more pleasant than not to be in a room with. I'm pretty sure this is just, like, the elf opinion in general, because drow solve this problem with slave labor and surface elves solve it by slowly going extinct."

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"Wow that's horrible."

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"Your poor children!"

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" - might actually explain the near-universal evilness, children in neglectful orphanages all grow up with serious issues."

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"No, I don't think so, lots of little drow children are sweethearts and the slaves mostly in fact do their jobs, I think that's the vicious propaganda campaign asserting that Pharasma is really racist because our ancestors got cooties from Rovagug and will condemn us all to the Abyss no matter what we do so we'd better get in good with any demon lord who'll have us and hope that helps when we get there."

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"...is that true?"

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"Not as true as I was led to believe but I can't rule out it applying to drow who die of anything other than infanticide with data I already have. It just, you know, doesn't matter that much in the grand scheme of things whether Pharasma has that exact drawback."

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"I am reasonably confident that's false. It's false for orcs, at least, the other race frequently characterized as always chaotic evil."

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"Good to know."

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"How did a species that hates babies evolve in the first place without being, like, R-selected bugs or something?"

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"Beats me, we're originally from another planet and I don't know much about what it's like there. Maybe we like babies in the right climate or on the right drugs or something."

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"How determined are drow to do slavery instead of just paying people to look after their kids and so on?"

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"There is a lot of slavery. Even if you don't count drow men it's like half slaves down there. I don't know where the money'd come from to start paying for that much labor if you had to do it suddenly. Maybe a ton of trade with weirdly benevolent and non-racist surfacers if there are those to hand could make it work, I think it's at least a lot cheaper to grow food up here, but I don't know that there are enough weirdly benevolent non-racist surfacers."

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"Andoran's making a really spirited try."

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"I mean, sure, if you want to call sending people to show up and murder all the drow they see because the drow are getting in the way of taking their slaves 'benevolent and non-racist', they're great at it. I'm not saying I can't see why the strategy appeals but people still die when they do that."

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"I'd offer to try ourselves but we don't really grow that much surplus food. - I guess conceivably Cam could terraform the whole desert while he's here? Could you?"

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"We are sure putting a ton of projects on my plate for the next five days. If you want it to be sure to stick I'd need a lot of climate data and reasonable confidence that your climate isn't magic or anything, if you want the quick solution of a whole bunch of pioneer species seeded wherever I see sand that's easier but might just not work for some reason I can't precisely anticipate."

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"This seems more obviously worth a couple hours than a full day but it'd be really helpful to our ability to do things internationally if it worked."

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"When I've done the IUD continuing education thing I will be doing heavy programming shit to integrate the translation software and maybe if I hit a point where I'm stuck I'll go out for a flight and drop seeds, sure. To be clear, I might easily have way more than five days, I just have no way to be sure unless they think to write me a letter." He holds out his hand; it remains empty. "They haven't yet."

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"Thank you."

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Another person appears.

"Sleep," says a guard.

She doesn't.

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"Not my kind," reports Mirelótë.

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"Tongues."

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"We need you not to mindread people, can you do that?"

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" - yes -" She is staring between Mirelótë and Pelape rather desperately.

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"Can you swear you've done that."

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"No, I don't swear to things. - where am I - who are you - you look like -"

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"We're a bunch of alternate universe versions of each other and you getting summoned here inexplicably. Why don't you swear to things, we are not all confident we have private thoughts down -"

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"I'm not reading your mind."

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He disappears. The new person disappears with him. 

 

He comes back a second later. 

"She's on my personal demiplane. If she's a me we shouldn't leave her there alone but we can take only the people who are sure they have it or willing to take the chance."

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"I'm sure."

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"I am too but all things considered probably shouldn't be one of a small handful going to keep her company."

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"I don't care very much."

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"Nor do I."

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"We could also de-statue the other one there as long as we're selecting people who can put up with it one way or the other, and see if he'll swear to things."

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"We could but do we want him, even if he'll cut out the mindreading?"

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"It... seems sort of interesting that you have wound up in situations where you don't wind up killing any of us. He might be important sooner or later."

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He glances at Cor.

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"I'm not going to melt. If you can get him to not read people's minds that seems better than leaving him as a statue forever. If he is very obnoxious I guess we'll cross that bridge when we come to it."

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"All right." He, Mirelótë. Hemaka and Hagan can appear with the statue of Maitimo.

 

He takes off his cloak and pins it around the statue of Maitimo. He casts a spell.

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He stops being stone. He falls to the ground, shaking.

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"Hello. I'm Mirelótë Ambela, those are their graces Princes Khemet, Hemaka, and Telcar."

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- he bows. "I'm sorry. I don't know how I came to be here." - glance at Mirelótë. "- and I don't know you, though I feel like I ought to."

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"Will you swear to not read peoples' minds? They don't know how to stop you."

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"Of course. Do you have a wording in mind -"

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"'For the duration of my time away from my native plane or the next ten years whichever expires first, I will not use osanwë deliberately or prepensively to receive data from any person who has neither expressed to me their desire that I do so in the specific way I then do, nor been verified to have mastered private thoughtkeeping'."

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"May I have a few minutes to think?"

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"Yes." She turns to the new Maitimo. "I presume you heard the introductions; this one's presumably Nelyafinwë Maitimo; what's your name?"

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"- Nelyafinwë Maitimë. I haven't been called that in a long time."

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"Would you prefer something else?"

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"I don't really have a preference."

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"All right. Why is it you don't swear to things - it's a reasonable enough policy but obviously not universal among the lot of you, and it's going to be complicated to put you back with everyone else if we can't be confident of their privacy -"

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"My memories can be tampered with. I don't really care where you put me but I'm not reading anyone's minds."

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"I see. I look like someone you know?"

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"Annie," she says very quietly.

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"- a lot of people like me and corresponding people like you have been appearing in Khemet's palace. He's one of you. If Annie appears what state should we expect her in?"

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"She's gone. She's dead. She's been dead for a long time."

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"Ah." She looks at Khemet.

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"How long."

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"Thirty thousand years. Give or take. I can figure it out more precisely if it's important -"

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"It's not." He shakes his head slightly at Mirelótë.

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"I'm sorry."

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"Maitimo, any revisions? - you might also want to pick a nickname, we're expecting more of you."

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"No revisions." He repeats it as she said it. "What might distinguish me from the other ones you are expecting, or should I pick at random -"

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"Of the three you're the only magic Elf; mine and Cam's are both chip Elves instead."

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"...chip...Elves?"

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"Instead of Ainu-style osanwë and such we have metal things serving for us as magic souls do for you."

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He glances around as if hoping more context for this might be on one of the walls. Bows his head again. "I guess you could do 'Magic'."

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"Well, she's magic, and so's Khemet, but it'll do as a stopgap when they show up if no one has a better idea."

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"My legal name right now is Lisa Anderson."

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"What's your world like right now?"

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"Elves and humans mostly live separately, and have for at least twenty thousand years; humans do not remember Elves except in legend. The humans live in big hideous cities. They have machines that do computing. They've been to their moon."

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"What have you been up to? How did you meet Annie?"

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"Annie dropped on me in a magical accident. I died shortly after that. She lived in Valinor and did healing and eventually died, I assume of old age. Mandos eventually decided to bring me back, almost thirty thousand years after I died. I spent a while becoming more functional. Then I got a human job."

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"Okay. It's been impressed on us that being a Maitimo isn't a consistent character reference, in this case with respect to worrying about people who don't have months to practice getting mindread, but I think it could be important to figuring out what's happening that everyone be in one place. Do you have any suggestions?"

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"Where am I?"

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"Khemet has his own miniature world and brought us there, since I know private thoughts and the other three are fine with the risk."

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"Okay. Are people conscious if they are turned to stone?"

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" - no."

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"Would you please -"

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"What happened to you?"

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"A lot of things."

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"Utumno?"

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" - is your world before - god. Don't let him out again. He does it again, when you let him out again."

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"We're not going to let him out again. Even if I don't get back to convey extra warning."

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"They waited a very long time but he pleaded and promised and he could help with the orcs, nothing else could, and - he was lying. Don't let him out no matter how long it's been or what he says."

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Nod. "We fixed the orc situation a different way. They're all fine."

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"Tell all the other worlds and people who might show up. It's very important."

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"The other two Ardas have finished their second war. Although Cam's Melkor is still alive, he's held back by a thorough oath now."

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"There are exactly four Ardas?"

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"So far. We don't have a way to go looking for more, people are just appearing."

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Nod. "The request stands."

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"Under what circumstances would you not want to be a statue."

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"If you figure out how to resurrect Annie."

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He looks confusedly at Mirelótë.

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"...doesn't make obvious sense to me either. Is there context we should have, Maitimë -?"

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"She'd want to be alive. And if she were alive, she'd want me, and I wouldn't mind being alive if you have her. - I love her."

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"That I had gathered."

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"Well.

Is turning her into stone expensive or anything, seems more humane if even thirty thousand years doesn't fix it. I imagine with magic Elves there's no rollback option."

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"It's not exactly cheap but Cam can pay us back. I can't do it here, though, I'll have to go get some people."

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"Maitimë, am I correct in thinking you're aware Annie would be disappointed if you went around reading people's minds?"

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" - obviously?"

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"Just checking. I think we can take that as adequate for as long as it takes to find some people who know the statue spell."

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So he Plane Shifts them all back.

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He glances around a little bit then steps back against a wall and looks down at the ground.

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"He swore, my wording. Her us is dead and she went through Utumno or something like it and prefers to be a statue about it, I think she won't do any harm while waiting on that."

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"They call it Angband."

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She nods.

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"What was the wording?"

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Mirelótë repeats it.

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"Fine."

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"I think that would let him read my code! But it is not here."

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"We won't let the creepy one at your code."

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He continues to look at the ground and not say anything.

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He has someone in to do the statue spell. And then there is a stone Elf woman looking vacantly out at them.

"Cam, could I ask you for a large bag of diamonds? We're running through our treasury, here."

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"Cut and carat and color?"

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"Varied? Resurrections want whole ones but most other spells want them ground up. Greater Restoration, which makes people stop being statues, requires a lot of diamond dust."

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"Dust," says Cam, dropping a bag at his feet, then a second bag; "rocks, miscellaneous nonbort. Enjoy. Who here know things about local orbital mechanics?"

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"For complicated things you'd want my father."

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He looks up from the tablet. "What?"

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"Orbital mechanics." He goes over to sit by him. "Wanna put some things in space. Also does your tablet know my language and the local one yet?"

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"It does! It's a good tablet." He pats it fondly. "Putting things in space is very hard, they have to be moving really fast. I have numbers if you want them."

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"I can put things in space, just have to match up your numbers with mine in case something important is different."

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"I know things about orbital mechanics but I think not the right things. Oh well."

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"Today is weird. Why is the creepy one staring at the floor over there?"

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He looks up at her. "I don't want to concern people. I can look somewhere else, if you'd like."

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"It's not really concerning, just weird."

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"I got here first and that complicates the hell out of spin so he's trying for inoffensive, I guess."

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He does not answer that.

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"He -"

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"Don't."

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"Don't what?"

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"I was going to explain what was going on inside his head. He decided that he would tell me not to do that."

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"How do you know what is going on inside his head? Do you read minds too? I did not think you could do that! It does not seem like a nice thing to do."

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"People show their thoughts on their faces and their bodies and that almost always tells you what they are thinking. Most humans do not know how to interpret it, though."

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"Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm."

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"I do not really have a way to not do it. You are harder to understand that way than most people because you do not do any of the people signs of your thoughts."

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"That is probably good!"

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"The rest of us can sort of guess what you're probably thinking but just by being similar to you, and you're definitely harder to do this with than the others. And there are surprises like Belmarniss's inexplicable hatred of babies."

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"I don't hate them."

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"I think this way of guessing is okay! I think being like me is good."

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"I might also have better guesses with him because of being sort of like him though I do not think I'm very like him."

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"No?"

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"I'm actually not a rapist? This seems like a sort of futile argument to get into but I don't punish people for being so compelling they matter to me because that would be self-destructive and stupid. He knows it was self-destructive and stupid but I don't think he actually understands how much, I think he's got a habit of - he writes things off because it's better than torturing himself with the hope he hasn't lost them -"

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"What does all of that mean?"

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"That one - hurt people he loved very badly for a very long time. He did it because of some things about him that are not true of me, even though we are the same person. Even though some of my mistakes are sort of like some of his mistakes, I have not made that specific mistake and would not make that specific mistake. The other people will not believe this because it would be a convenient thing for me to say even if it was not true."

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"Why would that be convenient?"

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"There is an expectation among humans - and other sorts of people - that you not hurt other humans badly in the way that he did. When someone violates that expectation, the other people will punish them. They might kill them or send them to prison or hit them or take their money or make them apologize or turn them into a statue or just express anger in their direction. Since everyone knows this, fewer people will hurt others in that way. This is called deterrence. He did not know that other people would react this way - he was in a place where they would not react in that way - but the way that humans experience the motivation to react in that way is a strong internal sense of disgust and anger, and they still experience it even if it doesn't have any deterring potential in the specific case, and expressing it still helps deter other people around. 

So if I had hurt people in that way, and did not want to be punished, I would tell you that I hadn't, because then I might escape punishment. Even if they suspected me of lying they might limit the punishment out of hesitation at the possibility they were punishing wrongly."

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"In her case it's just that she wasn't happy and wanted to stop being aware of that. If her one of us appears she wants to wake up again, but she doesn't expect it because she's been dead too long for Khemet to magic her back."

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"I can only bring back people who died in the last 150 years."

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"Why?"

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"Limitation of the spell. Most spells have a time limit, 150 years is honestly on the upper end for one. If I were a stronger cleric it could go a bit longer but not much longer. Three hundred years at absolute most."

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"I don't suppose Abadar can do any better? Or would be inclined, I guess, I don't know what kind of relationship you have going on there."

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"If she's in one of our afterlives he might be able to get her, no matter how long it's been. I don't know if she would be, though."

 

He tosses her a crystal ball. 

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Scry scry scry.

"...she doesn't look very dead."

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The scry shows a young human driving a Jeep.

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" - huh."

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"Do your afterlives have cars?"

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"Assuming that's a car, not that I know of."

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"Why can we scry on her? You couldn't scry on anyone else you tried, right?"

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"Maybe being us just helps a whole lot? We could get, like, Telcar - do you want me to call you that or Hagan? - we could get him to look for alternate versions of him and so on."

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"We tried for Mirelótë's husband enough times that we should've been able to get him even if he's very good at throwing it off, and even with the limitation of not knowing him well. I guess it's possible that's some specific feature of her world and the others will work fine."

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"My save against scrying isn't impressive, I can look for mes."

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"I mean, maybe being outside the usual set of planes is such a huge disadvantage that you can't overcome it just by trying a bunch? Maybe Mirelótë could scry her husband. Or if you have one of him here he could. Do you, did you check?"

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"Would probably have been one of your grandfather's advisors, involved in your father's life when he was growing up, optionally with a traumatic past of some kind, I assume if the name was very reminiscent you would already have noticed. But also my Maitimo isn't here yet, so you could try him. Tyelcormo is not on the right planet to get word where it would need to go right away unless he can convince Huan to help and Huan is only inconsistently willing to do things that aren't exactly like being a dog."

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"I can look for your me."

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Belmarniss tosses him the ball.

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He attempts this without success. 

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"How bad are we running down that ball at this point?"

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"We've been swapping them out but we may be close to the last one I have available."

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"Would any Maitimos care to hazard a guess if she'd like to be awoken on the grounds that Annie is apparently driving cars somewhere or if she'd rather wait until Annie is actually pulled here?"

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"I feel like I still lack context on why she wanted to be unconscious."

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"I would wait."

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"I mentioned that Melkor tortured people and we only have versions of them rolled back to before that, because the ones who remember it don't want to exist any longer? That happened to her and she isn't a chip Elf so rolling her back would be a different proposition. She expects Annie to want her and would want to be there for that but otherwise it's unlikely we'll find a way to do better than nothing."

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"Then I guess we wait."

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"If Annie is going to be pulled here, and is presently operating heavy machinery, is there any way to warn her about the expected pull so she can call off from work?"

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"Sometimes you can send a message through a scry but it often doesn't work."

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"Sending works across planes but not reliably. I can try it anyway. What should I say -"

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"Does Tongues work through Sending?"

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"No. She might have the Elves's language, though."

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"I can translate to Sindarin, Maitimë spoke that. What are the constraints?"

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"25 words or less."

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"- Cam."

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"Mm?"

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"How do people send you letters?"

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"They write 'letter to Cam' and I conjure everything with that on it."

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"If she doesn't write your language?"

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"Oh, I can get other stuff if I know to look for it."

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"Okay. Tell her "'Recommend parking car. Anticipate uncontrollable interplanar transit within hours. Maitimë is here, also alternate universe yous. We can read written responses; outgoing messages more difficult."

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He sends this.

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In the scry, Annie pulls over and comes to a stop. She rummages for writing materials.

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"Oh good."

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Eventually she seems to be done writing her letter.

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"Cam, can you get Annie's letter?"

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It appears above Mirelótë's outstretched hand.

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"It says, 'Thanks for the warning. I assume you have some reason to be terse and I await more explanation. I'll drive slowly if it takes long enough that I need to move on to get water, but have enough for a few hours. I have a crippling music allergy and prefer very cold environments if convenient. Tell Rirosseth I love her and I've been okay and got reincarnated somehow on a new planet.'"

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" - maybe at this point we should destatue her."

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"Maybe, although I don't think leaving her a statue until Annie appears is a particularly expensive mistake in this case."

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"I don't have experience with this place. People who come out of Hell are usually - I mean, motivated to not have to go back, but not like that unless they've no prospects of avoiding it."

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"I think our kind might be different enough from the magic one that I shouldn't make confident predictions." She looks at 'Magic'.

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"I'm honestly most confused about the exception for Annie. That's not usually an exception. Even for married people, and they couldn't have been."

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"Elves can marry Dwarves in my Arda, but they'd still generally look married and - Rirosseth - didn't."

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"Look married?"

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"There are little software add-ons called blessings, and some are specifically marriage blessings that married Elves download to our chips, and one of the ones nearly everyone picks makes it possible to tell by looking that the person is married. Dwarves don't have chips but Elves who want to marry them can still get that one anyway, they just can't get the one that boosts osanwë range or a lot of the others because Dwarves don't have osanwë."

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"In my world marriage is a magical soul bond that comes with enhanced abilities related to the other person, common ones being things like the ability to hear the other person whenever they sing, or feel when they're in pain, or always know what direction they're in, or touch them by touching your own arm. Being married is visible. Marriage happens automatically the first time a man and a woman have sex. It doesn't usually happen between couples where one member is a human, but it can happen if they believe it will work, in which case only the Elf experiences marriage but the marriage is normal from their side.

You can be married to more than one person. You can marry someone against their will, if they don't kill themself. It seems conceivable to me that there's a way for two people of the same gender to marry.

She wasn't married."

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"I am also unmarried," he adds to the floor.

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"Let's leave her a statue in case Annie takes six hours or something and the wait's intolerable."

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- nod. 

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"It is strange to imagine there being something it is like to be that is worse than not having something it is like to be!"

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"Yeah. I think some ways of being are very very bad."

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" - why don't we all have...dinner."

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"Oh wow! Human food made by humans. I have to feed this but I don't like it very much usually and I think humans like eating most of the time and I am EXCITED to find out why!"

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"Are we pretty sure we can eat what you eat? Can you check by magic or anything?"

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"If you're nervous I'll make you dinner."

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"Dinner from Cam sounds fascinating and we'd be delighted. The species of Golarion can mostly eat the same food but I can't guarantee that'd hold."

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"Amentans will need to place orders but if pharaohs are allowed to eat stuff I make I'm happy to design the spread for whoever else is coming."

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"I'd enjoy meeting more of the local family if convenient."

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"I want garlic chicken picklepot as served at House of Salt."

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"I can invite the family. - wives too, or just the people you know?"

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"I don't see why I'd want to leave their wives out just because I don't know versions of them! Perhaps they'll be familiar."

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"All right." He nods to someone. "We'll want one of the banquet halls, then. We can bring the statue in case Annie arrives during dinner."

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"What are we having?" Belmarniss asks Cam.

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"Lots of things. My people are good at food."

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He leads them to a banquet hall. More people file in. Five brothers of the pharaoh, and some of their wives and children, and eight wives of the pharaoh (seated separately), and the pharaoh's mother, and attendants.

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Cam does a headcount, assesses the size of the table, pauses to ask, "You want some new dishes or to provide those yourselves?"

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"We will use ours, thank you."

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"Lay 'em out, say when."

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Servants do this.

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And now there are foods! They are many and varied, chowder to cheese platter to chicken fingers. "If anybody has an allergy, tell me."

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Pelape enjoys her picklepot.

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Cor sits between Belmarniss and Cam and ignores his Maitimo and tries everything within reach.

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Annie lands with one foot in the eggnog pitcher.

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He waves off his security. "It's like I invited her, sort of. Tongues."

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"...Tongues?" she says in perfect Osirian.

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"Prestidigitation - come over here off the table, I'll clean you up."

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Annie picks her way off the table in Belmarniss's direction. "Where's Rirosseth?"

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He gestures at the statue. "She thought you were dead and asked us to make her not conscious." He can give her the cloak and fix it, now.

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" - what -"

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"Annie!!!!"

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"I'm not dead!!!"

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"How are you not dead?" She flings herself at her.

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"I reincarnated on a different planet! It was eerily like my original one in some ways but not the same place!" Annie flops delightedly into Rirosseth's arms.

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"Conceivably you might want to have your reunion in a different room?"

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"Yes. Where -"

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"Someone can show you to the guest rooms."

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"I missed youuuuuuu," says Annie, who clearly fully expects to be carried to the guest room.

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He watches them go. 

"- should we have been checking for ...super manipulative rapist nature. I admit she really doesn't look it, but -"

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"Annie did not want to be interrupted."

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"I did get that sense."

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"Also, like, y'know, how do you check?"

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"Well the spell for evilness seems imperfect but it's not zero information and apparently some mind control is dispellable with local magic."

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"Imprecisely. And whatever Annie's magic situation is includes reincarnation and a music allergy so it'd need careful handling."

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"I can see magic and there is a lot going on there, yeah."

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"You can see magic? What does magic look like?" asks Rubelite around four jumbo shrimp.

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"Objects and people which are magical or have ongoing spells cast on them have auras which you can see with a certain spell cast. Sadly people can only cast the spell on themselves."

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"It looks kind of like this," he says, and sings to himself and makes an illusion of color auras around some nearby magic objects.

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"Don't do that, we don't know how allergic Annie is!"

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"Allergic?"

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"The newest arrival communicated in advance that she prefers the cold and is allergic to music."

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He pouts slightly. 

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"We can ask later what the range is. If it's large you can take your girls back to the winter palace."

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"How does someone be allergic to music?"

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"Her letter didn't explain."

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"Well, as long as it's just temporary."

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"Seems likely we can send her home. With Rirosseth if that seems like a good idea."

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"There might be a way to fix it, it just requires actually having a conversation with her at some point."

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"More's the pity, I was hoping to hear more of the local songs."

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"I'm sure we can arrange that later."

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"Are we permitted to speak to your wives? I'm wondering if they have alternates in my world."

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"You're not."

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"Because he's a guy or because of who he is as a person?"

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"Men can't speak to my wives. If that weren't true it'd still be tempting because of who he is as a person, though."

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"I don't have anything to say to them at all! But in case I think of something, I don't know if I count as a man because I have several penises but did not bring them with me!"

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"You do not count."

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"Is it because I did not bring them with me or because I am a spaceship?"

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"Bodies that have penises cannot talk with them and bodies that don't can regardless of what entity is puppetting them."

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"Why?"

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("We're weird if we're a spaceship.")

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("I noticed.")

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"No one wants there to be any question of paternity of the pharaoh's children, and therefore there are lots of rules about the pharaoh's wives talking to other people who could get them pregnant. In a body where you cannot do that, there isn't a problem."

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"Can humans do that by talking?"

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"No, it's accumulated room for more and more margin of error over a lot of revisions."

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He nods at Cam. 

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"Also this isn't really dinner table conversation."

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"Why?"

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"...I guess that's a good question."

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"Does a good question mean one you aren't going to answer? Why is that good?"

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"It means a question to which the answer isn't obvious; a question to which the answer is obvious would be less good, but easier to answer."

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"They don't want to talk about sex at the dinner table because in most cultures it's a taboo topic, and also I think the pharaoh is worried we're all sizing him up for how badly he treats people, in light of how his entire society works and also how Magic is as a person, so he'd be happier if we talked about something other than his wives."

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"Personally I'm finding this fascinating dinner conversation, especially since until recently I'd been expecting to have dinner in the winter palace trading increasingly wild speculation about whether we were all about to die," says Ismat.

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Snort.

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"Well, as long as we're all having fun."

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Elsewhere, mouth rather occupied with being kissed: How are you alive? What's been going on in Arda since I died? I got all the orcs, it was pretty close but I did it.

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Mandos got tired of us. I - gave up - a while after you stopped writing - I don't really remember after that in much detail - it was a very long time - tried not to be at all interesting -

 

- and eventually she spat us back into the world. Me and my sisters and my mother, they didn't give Istarno a chance to come with, I don't think. And - we nearly starved at first, actually, but some people were faster than me at putting themselves back together. I think it was the same world. I guess I don't know for sure. There were supposed to be Elves who'd stayed but we didn't go talk to them, stayed away from the places we'd been told they were. No Dwarves. No orcs. Just humans. The place we'd landed was called Canada -

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I have one of those. I haven't been there. Is it the same - I was reborn in the United States and my birth parents died in a car crash and my foster parents moved us to India and they sucked so me and one of the others ran off and joined the Peace Corps -

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That all sounds - possible - what year -

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2005.

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God. We were in the same place. 

 

 

 

I guess it'd have been kind of weird if I found you as a baby anyway. But - I wish I had - 

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I didn't remember everything right away.

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Did you have - the same parents? Different ones?

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I don't know, I didn't get a look at any pictures and it had only been a few days before they died. First names weren't the same but the surname was Svane still.

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How were - whoever raised you?

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They suck and are now irrelevant as I am legally eighteen.

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Oh good. 

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- not the part about them sucking. 'm very distraught about that.

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Yeah, sometimes the people who collect eleven disadvantaged foster kids aren't tons of fun for some reason. I'm okay.

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That's good. I'm - 

- I'm so glad I have you.

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I'm so glad I found you - or you found me - I'm confused about where you were when I landed, I couldn't find your eyes to borrow right away...

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I didn't know you were alive. 

When I arrived here there was a man who was a stone statue because he was an Elf and there's no better way to imprison us. While he was a stone statue he wasn't conscious. 

I told them to turn me back into a person if they ever found you. I wasn't expecting them to.

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Oh.

How long has it been, do you know? Will your family be missing you?

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No idea. The people are wearing the same clothes, though.

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Oh good. I love you I love you I love you I love you -

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Love you. Love you love you love you forever and ever and ever.

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What-all's going on with the alternate universe versions thing or were you too a statue to find out?

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Mostly too a statue. Sorry. I - I don't like unexpected plotty things.

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It's okay. Or, well, it isn't really but we can go have dinner and ask them.

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Yeah. We should do that.

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And you should carry me there.

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So she returns triumphantly to the banquet hall holding her Annie and only a bit more disheveled than they departed.

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"Welcome back."

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"Summarize yourself, Annie."

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"Gosh. Uh, I'm originally from a world where the magic comes in the form of artifacts which if a person touches them they each grant one benefit and one drawback. One day I had a traffic accident and six of them hit me so I have... a lot going on. One sent me to another universe but also means I can share and then unshare the effects on me, in their original pairs. That's where I met Rirosseth. Uh, another one's going to sound weird if I explain it but it's probably pretty key to understanding the story. It does a thing where not for everyone affected but for about ten percent of my sample it'll make them fall in love with somebody they know. In my case since I didn't get it taken off right away it didn't have to be somebody I already knew and shortly after I landed Rirosseth showed up and it was confusing. The corresponding benefit is immunity to other mind affecting stuff, though, my sample was a bunch of people called orcs who needed out of their oaths and it does that, about one in ten paired off. Stop me if I need to go into more depth on anything."

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"Does your world have other magic, is this responsive to Remove Curse -"

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"Original world it's only artifacts and I don't know what remove curse is but that seems like it might undo what I have wholesale and I have been coping with it all for hundreds of years and do not want to gamble on fucking with it."

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"The falling in love thing sounds really sketchy."

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"I am aware. I do not want to get rid of it because that would for one thing probably wind up with her being a statue again and for another probably make it really hard to keep most of my memories of my life well-assimilated and stuff and for yet another would itself constitute a radical change to how my brain works."

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"Aaaaanyway she was herself under an oath with the implication that she showed up in the course of stabbing people and then kidnapped me and I did not mention the love thing because it seemed like it would be awkward. She noticed anyway. Lírnith, her sister, decided after process of elimination had determined which side effects went with which good effects that she wanted to try the anti-mind-affecting thing in case it'd help with the oath, which she'd also sworn, and it did that and didn't stick her on anybody. We didn't tell Rirosseth that either. We all moved in with Dwarves and raised twin orphan half-Elves and I told Dwarves a bunch of stuff about technology from my world. Eventually Rirosseth figured out what we weren't saying and decided to try it hoping she'd get lucky and you can guess what happened probably."

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"You are both under a magic love curse."

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"I really think I'd love her anyway, if I'd been less of a mess."

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"You would," says Anaander immediately.

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"Maybe."

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He doesn't look up but he twitches.

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"Anyway then the Valar showed up, the message was in Sindarin so maybe you know who they are?" At Ambela's nod, "They showed up and finally stopped Melkor. Lotta continent-shaking trumpet blasts, very hard on the music allergy, it's extremely painful. Our kids had gone to join the fight and we wanted to see how they were doing and also look into me deoathing orcs so we went to where they were hanging out. Someone didn't get the memo about not singing around me. Rirosseth charged in and someone murdered her. I finagled my way into Valinor so I could be there when she got out of Mandos and de-oathed orcs while I was there and lasted a long time but not long enough. Then I reincarnated on what I thought was a different planet but turns out to have been the same planet later because it seems like it's the same one Rirosseth was on when Mandos got sick of her and her mom and sisters and spat them all out, and I still have all my artifact effects and have been eradicating insect-borne illnesses in Sierra Leone."

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Isn't she just the most patently wonderful person in the entire universe.

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"Well, uh, welcome, have a summary of what's going on and help yourself to the food except for the eggnog since you stepped in the pitcher - what are your other effects?"

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"Music allergy goes with a regeneration power, it's pretty heavy-duty. I'm eradicating the insect-borne diseases by giving out the one that kills vermin on contact and it goes with feeling too hot all the time unless it's really cold - between that and the regen I'm actually safe and comfy in really cold places though. I'm blind and deaf but have a sense of where objects are for a ways out in all directions, works through walls and stuff like that. I have a polyglottalism power that conveniently overrides that, so I can hear voices speaking, and see text or sign, but not hear other sounds or see other things except I'm using Rirosseth's ears and eyes now. That comes with being faceblind which is a really minor drawback and if there are any Celebrendeses around they'll probably want it persistently. And reportedly she took after her mom and grandma in that respect." She sits down and takes the summary and a helping of curry.

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And they can check if Endure Elements helps with the temperature thing.

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"No, doesn't help. I'm mostly okay at tuning it out. When I was in Valinor Aulë fixed it by just actually giving me a cold aura that faded out if I went somewhere cold or if someone came close to me. Also insulated me for the music problem. Wore off after I died."

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Nod. Well, that's all the help he can offer if no cursebreaking is to be attempted.

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"I like food," reports Rubelite.

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"What do you usually get fed?"

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"I'm not sure how to refer to it because I don't have a name for it programmed in."

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"It's super unfair that if somebody found out enough of the story to write a whole song about it you couldn't even listen," Rabiah tells Annie.

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"I could, I'd just have to do it with someone else's ears. Rirosseth wouldn't even have to let go of me me because allergy range is human earshot and she hears better than that,"

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Rirosseth does not look inclined to let go of her.

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That is good.

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"Is it just the immediate family that's gender-swapped or does it go farther than that, I wonder."

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"Is your Mandos a woman? Your Aulë? Your Melkor?"

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"All male. Insofar as that makes sense with Ainur, but they present themselves that way. Huh, do you have a female Rúmil?"

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Nod. " - did yours not get captured -"

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"We're a different variety of Elf. Everyone from Utumno was rolled back to a pre-capture state. Sometimes someone tries a rescue simulation of themselves to see if the continuities that remember it can be salvaged. They can't. I'm not sure in what respects your version differed."

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"We don't have a way to do that. I think Mandos can block the memories, but not the - all the things you learned from them. Couldn't do anything to me, because of the mental opacity. You just have to - keep going."

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"I thought it might be something like that."

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Annie leans on her.

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Snuggle.

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"Is there a 'Findekánë'?"

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“Yes?”

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"She died. I guess if Rirosseth is back she might be back too but she'd be straight now."

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“I think she’s probably back. I think we were the last ones.”

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"Everyone else's Valar are so much worse than mine!"

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"Is that a coincidence or did you do something to them?"

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"You make it sound awfully sinister if you put it that way! I talked to them."

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"Must have been a lot of talking to them."

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"Oh, yes, I started when I was a child, I followed Oromë around the entire flight to Valinor."

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"That worked?" 

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"I think yours started worse, even if mine didn't start better."

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" - huh. Why do you think so?"

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"How long had yours had the habit of editing living people?"

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"Since they met us and realized we were imperfect and had been breaking the rules we didn't know about."

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"Mine did not do that. Soft coercion of the dead, sure, that we had to discuss. They didn't edit anyone alive without their consent, however overdetermined that might be by parental pressure or what have you."

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"Huh."

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"It could be a magic versus less magic thing, I suppose?" She looks at Maitimë.

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"Our Valar didn't edit living people. That sounds - awful - is that what's wrong with you -"

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"I wouldn't have guessed it was what was wrong with me but meeting all of you is making me consider attributing more to them than I previously was."

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"What would have been your guess?"

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"The wars. Wars are bad for people. It's more obvious with humans, because the Elves don't stop being at war but our humans do. Soldiers come back and they hit their wives, they beat their children. There's some stuff you can do to help them manage it but it took us a while to hit on it."

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"Why don't you stop being at war?"

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"Well, if we had stopped being at war before Cor killed Melkor then we would all have been tortured forever."

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"What about now that he did that?"

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"Oh, we are stopping, now. Waiting on - news about Sauron."

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"Will that make there not be something wrong with you any more?"

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“I would be pretty surprised. It doesn’t usually work that way.”

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"Oh." She looks at Cor. "Sorry, he's broken forever."

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"I figured."

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"Seems like jumping to conclusions a little," he mutters too quietly for anyone but Rirosseth and Mirelótë to hear him.

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"This must all be real interesting for the people who know what's going on."

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"Sorry, there's kind of a lot of it and it's all complicated and in half a dozen languages. - was that allowed, since she's not one of the pharaoh's wives -"

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“Yeah, it’s only the people seated separately.”

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"Do they... like eavesdropping? This just seems very awkward."

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“Do people in your world like watching the theatre with their friends and then speculating about everything later?”

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"Sure. But that's, like, scripted. Most days can't reasonably be this interesting."

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“Oh, we don’t all eat together with people they can’t talk to most days.”

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"Fair enough."

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"I've met people who do that to their husbands, won't let them talk to people."

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"It's not my decision, it's a custom. The best I can do is advertise it in advance so we get applicants who don't mind it, or think it's an advantage. Some people don't really like talking to most people anyway." He says this like it is a very mysterious preference.

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"Applicants, is that how it works?"

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"Yeah. They present themselves for an interview and if they might do they get extensively harassed by security for a while and then I can meet them. - in ancient Osirion that was not how it worked, but it is now."

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"That must leave you with an interestingly filtered set of options."

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"Honestly the upsetting thing is when they're not suited at all but they wanted it because they expect to be miserable in a marriage."

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"...people try to marry you because they expect being married to make them miserable?"

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"Well, I've got a lot of wives, right, so it can't be as often."

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This takes her a minute.

 

"That's a matter of course, is it? They can't shop around for someone decent? Or not get married?"

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"There is not a law that they have to get married and no one can force them but there are not very good ways for women to support themselves unmarried, and marriage is supposed to be good for them, and you don't have very good prospects of an afterlife if you're trying to do some deeply unusual thing."

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"Why is marriage supposed to be good for them? Why are unusual things bad for the afterlife?"

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"Marriage is good for men and women because it provides commitment and stability, and good for men in particular because it provides them with motivation towards decency and honor and personal growth, and good for women in particular because it provides them with motivation towards generosity and affection and obedience. The afterlife that is best for most people, of the achievable ones, is Axis and you have to be lawful to get into Axis and it's much much harder to be lawful when you're doing things that no one has designed laws for."

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"I think I'm still confused."

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"Men and women are pretty close to the same if you socialize them the same. There are some differences but they're rude to bring up, like how differences among people of different colors or from different backgrounds are rude to bring up. Rude means if you bring it up people will think you are behaving badly, even if the thing you said was true. The ways that humans are, though, depends a lot on their society. This society has decided to make its men and women very different."

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"It seems really weird to consider it rude to say factual things about population-level differences in aptitudes. I don't actually know of gendered differences in much of anything except, like, odds of being a surrogate? Odds of breastfeeding? But if there were more I can't think why you'd want to have nobody talk about it."

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"Makes it hard to have a nice cosmopolitan international society when everyone hates foreigners and the way to get them to not do that is for it to be rude to talk about how the foreigners are dirtier or stupider."

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" - dirtier, sure, sign a treaty and then don't imply anything about anyone in compliance with it. But some countries do win all the math competitions."

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"Huh. Why?"

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"I don't know. Probably some culture, some genetics. You mean to say you don't know who's good at math, among your peoples?"

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"We test everyone individually and take the best."

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"At what age?"

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"Fifteen. Ah - younger than anyone here, but not very much younger."

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"And what do you do up to that point, try to give them all the same math education? Some of them should stop math before that age and some of them should already have very advanced knowledge."

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"It varies by the world and the circumstances. I think people self-sort by genetics enough to get most of the benefits of sorting them yourself, and sorting them yourself is ugly."

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"I'm curious now, what would you do if Amenta landed in your lap castes and all. With respect to this topic, not 'I'd start by unifying the place'."

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“I don’t actually know that I would unify it. It’s needed here, it’s not needed everywhere. I think permitting emigration might undo most of the annoying effects from the castes. I don’t think I’d let you take it to more planets.”

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"I mean, you permit emigration to places that currently have a two-per birthrate via soft incentive without any laws about it, and in a few generations we're everywhere."

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“This isn’t obviously undesirable. There are trillions of humans, you don’t seem obviously worse than humans though maybe your lives are much worse when you can only have two children?”

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"Depends how bad we spring. I'm a little better than average, I haven't even propositioned Cam yet, and Aitim's probably lots better than average though I don't know directly."

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"What? Who's propositioning me?"

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"Me, if you're ever not so terribly busy."

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"...hit me up in six days if I'm still here then or if I ever look really frustrated with my computer for more than ten minutes in a row."

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"Noted."

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The Osirians all look horrified.

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"If that's what I think it is that's really dumb, you know -" Rabiah tells Pelape.

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"He isn't going to get me pregnant, if that's what you're worried about, we're different species and my planet has contraception."

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"Also I'm infertile."

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"I have heard that one from people who were lying."

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"My entire species is infertile. I could get someone pregnant but I would have to do magic and would not have to touch them. And I would have a conversation about that first."

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He raises an eyebrow at the pharaoh.

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"Other priorities," he says tersely.

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"Policing my sex life shouldn't even make the list of priorities! I apologize for mentioning it at the dinner table if that was going to scandalize people!"

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"Oh, no, it wasn't that, he was contemplating whether he could get Cam to get his wives for him, since he can't figure out how."

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"Regrettably it is somehow impossible for me to have a conversation with them about that. Maybe even if the express end goal of the conversation were for me to get them pregnant! Also other priorities, if nobody needs second helpings of anything I'm about ready to excuse myself and go work on your internet some more."

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Some people want second helpings!

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Cam refills dishes by popular demand and ducks out.

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Aitim strikes up a conversation with Merenre about interdimensional trade and waves Pelape over to join them. 

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"What's up?"

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"Apparently permanent dimensional gates are a thing and if we can go home we'll be able to set one up."

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"Ooh! Tourism'll be complicated but the magic cleaning should let trade work fine and soon you'll have an internet - should ask if Cam can squeeze in compatibility out of the box but he probably can't -"

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"It'd be really good, though, I think the internet does a lot of cultural levelling and they could sure use some."

      "Cultural levelling?" asks Merenre.

"Like, people talk to people in other countries and good norms spread faster and dumb ones die out and Amentans could be a good influence on your culture, which is honestly very concerning."

       "And then they all end up in the Maelstrom?"

"Yes, I know you have some reasons to hesitate about cultural change."

       "Trade we're delighted about, though."

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"Is Maelstrom one of the torture ones?"

"No, but it's bad enough you don't want a lot of uptake," Ismat says.

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"If you can make magic items yourself then you'll quickly be doing that, but also if you can make magic items yourself I'd expect you to have noticed."

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"Maybe we could but only here or something, bears testing."

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Nod. "What all could we buy from you?"

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"Plastic; you can think of that sort of like glass except it's lighter and you can get it very thin and flexible and at our industrial level it's also cheaper. Electrical gadgets - catchall for things that do stuff like store and display compressed text and images and sound, or do something like a scry from a fixed location all the time at negligible marginal cost, or produce light, or do kitchen appliance stuff. I don't know how much of our medicine will be applicable cross-species or useful when you've got magic, but we can at least check that out. Fabric, plausibly, does what I'm wearing look interestingly exotic, I buy cheap mass produced stuff with synthetic fiber. All kinds of little doodads that are probably weirdly expensive or nonexistent here or haven't been invented, like pens and rubber bands and zippers and bicycles and chairs with caster wheels."

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He takes notes. What she's wearing is interestingly exotic. "Fabric is expensive, do you have a way of mass-producing it?" Will Amentans want to come tourist. 

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"Yeah, fabric is mass produced and cheap to the point where a shirt will cost the same in the smallest and largest sizes. Amentans will want to come tourist if and only if you get adequate plumbing and plumbing-related labor infrastructure handled everywhere they'd need to go plus assurances that everything they'd touch is clean to standards I get the sense you might find a bit exacting."

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- weird. Is there non-magic stuff Amentans would plausibly be importing or should they be pretty much thinking about the magic stuff.

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"Besides souvenirs... don't get me wrong, you could do a lot of business in souvenirs, there are a lot of us, but besides that I'm not coming up with much."

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In that case he would like to learn more about Amenta's population and likely magic item demand and how business is arranged and Ismat might have more specific questions.

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Aitim does not really participate in this but he watches for a while. Watches Rabiah for a while. Tries and fails to get a good look at Khemet's wives.

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"Why are you staring at me?"

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"I think that you are an alternate universe version of my brother's wife. Ismat too. It's kind of fascinating."

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"...we're not married."

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"She's new," puts in Amina.

"There's an Amentan me? What's she do?" says Ismat.

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"Sorry, I - don't know what the applicable term is - I thought Osirians were very mad about people having sex while not being married?"

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"I'm in the household. And he's a prince." She did not manage to score a seat next to him so she cannot lean on him. "So it's okay."

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"Well, it's certainly okay with us. You should come meet Makel and Peka sometime, you can all compare children and music."

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"She probably doesn't have a Khatijah since you have that thing that lets you sleep around without any babies but I guess if they have kids together."

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"She has a child, Katin, from before she met Makel. My understanding is that they were badly squeezed for the credit but they made it."

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"Squeezed for the credit?" asks Ismat.

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"In most countries in our world you have to buy permission to have a child."

     "I guess that's perfectly sensible, if it's scarce."

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"Huh. Do we even have any there, then?"

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"You're astoundingly rich. Which is how he found you, he looked up all the wealthiest female entrepreneurs and went a-calling. You have two so far and can afford more."

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"Huh. I dressed in drag for a decade till somebody blackmailed me about it."

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"Well, on our planet no one cares who's a girl and who isn't."

         "I liked her before I knew," says Merenre proudly.

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"He did, it was awkward!" She kisses his cheek. "Lucky her. What's she do, though?"

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"Nice mass-market furniture."

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'"Huh, furniture. I didn't really consider furniture. I considered musical instruments but it turns out it's one of those fields where people pay themselves in passion and drive the wage down."

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"This society might be too poor for good margins on furniture, I bet lots of people don't buy it new. Just going off the general tech level."

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"Well, I went with jewelry. Good business to be in. I'll sell you people souvenirs when we have enough fountains or whatever your plumbing issue is."

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"I'll look forward to it."

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"Do you sleep?" she asks Rubelite.

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"No. ...Yes? This sleeps, that is probably what matters for this conversation."

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"It's what's going to be relevant, yeah."

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"I lie down to do that. Will people who aren't me step on me if I'm lying down? I don't step on me but maybe that is different."

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"I do not know for sure but I bet they will offer you a bed, and then people will be unable to step on you. That's how humans do it."

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"Oh, that's a good idea."

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She beams at her.

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"Have I not been clear enough -"

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"I'm not hitting on her! It occurred to me she might not need to sleep, or might not know she needed to, or might be concerned about the thing where we're both going to lose continuity of consciousness in a couple of hours!"

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"That's a fancy word for sleeping."

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"I was trying to point at a concept your society is too stupid to have invented."

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"I'm probably very worried about me but I don't think that will get worse when I sleep."

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"Do you get attached to all your threads?"

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"Yes. I think I use more storage than regular ships my size keeping it all."

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"Huh. The human bodied ones will die, you know."

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"I know. If I save everything it's okay but I bet I am very upset about this being lost."

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"Are you going to let her go home?" she asks Khemet.

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"We'll talk about it as a group. A group that does not include you."

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"But I miss me."

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"I know. I - it depends on whether there's a way for Anaander, once she knows of us, to get here. There are lots of ways there might not be. It could be that it takes a Plane Shift and no one on your end can learn to do that. It could be that we figure out some way to reach Mirelótë's gods after all, and they're willing to promise to get in her way if she tries anything. It could be that when I talk with Abadar in the morning he'll have a plan. It could be that you can get enough social competence to keep our world a secret from Anaander. It could be that you or someone else will think of some other solution.

But if none of those things happen, then I don't see how I can send you home. I don't want the rest of Anaander to know about us if she has a way to come for us."

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Rubelite's facial expression doesn't change at all when she cries.

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"You know, the Amentans might invade you too."

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"I have the same information as you, Anaander."

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"How can I get social competence?" Rubelite asks Cor, the nearest unoccupied one.

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"...heck. Uh, practice helps. ...do you write things down or do you just spaceship things?"

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"I spaceship things."

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"Okay. Let's get you something to write with. Maybe what Cam has, it seems really fast." He takes her hand and goes to follow Cam.

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"We don't have a problem," he says quietly to Pelape in case she's following all this.

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"You sure? Is it because of all my social competence?"

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"Nah, he just thinks he'd win a war and he sees more upside."

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"Good to know."

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"Also there's a cooperativeness thing. Can explain more later if you want. - assuming we're permitted private conversations? I guess possibly we aren't."

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"Rirosseth could be a relay if you're worried?"

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"That might be good. Thank you."

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"You're welcome. Any ideas to help Rubelite that Cor might not think of, I'd be really upset if I were suddenly some smallish percentage of myself and wasn't even going to get to loop in the rest later."

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"I take it the Valar from your world definitely won't play peacemaker?"

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"They're not all bad all the time, Aulë helped me out with some of my side effects, but, uh, Mirelótë sounds like she can give hers marching orders and we super cannot do that and involving them could make things worse."

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Nod. "Uh, if you think his threat model is wrong you could talk him out of it, I just don't know that it is."

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"It sounds like he thinks an informed Rubelite would wittingly or un- inform the rest of Anaander that Osirion et al exist and that she might somehow use this information to independently develop enough magic or sufficiently sci-fi tech that she then shows up here and conquers the place for its... nonmagical resources, I guess, since ex hypothesi she can in this scenario duplicate magic effects just by having the vague idea that this might be worth looking into, but maybe the place has interesting nonmagical resources other than sand I just don't know about? I'm not sure what advantage I have over Anaander in communicating that this sounds really weird as a thing for her to do."

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"I don't think that's what he's worried about, I think he's worried she'd destroy it."

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"Because it's got... plausible threats to her empire or something? I got here pretty recently, the stuff here doesn't obviously scale that way..."

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"It's come up that people here can conjure matter and that this plausibly allows people to destroy planets pretty easily. Although so can the kind of thing Cam is, I don't know why he isn't worrying about that, Cam's not gonna but there's more of those."

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"There's that - the locals don't actually know very much about how dangerous their magic is in combination with other information, but it's probably very, and we're postulating here that they can reach our world, if they can send us back. But the main consideration is the treaty with the Presger. The one that Rubelite might be able to help me renegotiate. The Presger feel very strongly about violence between different species. Humans killing humans, that's fine, they fundamentally don't understand what a human is so they don't care and I'm not sure I want them to understand what a human is because if they then extend their principles to object as strongly to humans killing humans then they might, just, hermetically seal all humans away from all other ones or something. Or exterminate us, for being so evil.

If the Presger find out about this planet then the treaty's broken and I don't know what happens after that but it's plausibly very bad. If I find out about this planet I will just try very hard to make sure the Presger don't."

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"That implies that the dangerous conduit of information is not actually 'Rubelite lacks social competence, tells you stuff' but rather 'Rubelite reports to her alien parental unit that there's this place'."

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"I don't really know what I'd do if Rubelite told me this place existed. I probably wouldn't just tell all the world's wizards what a black hole is."

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"Would that even solve your problem."

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" - telling all the world's nonhuman wizards what a black hole is and hoping one of them tries it might solve all my problems with respect to this planet and the treaty. Because it'd be some nonhumans that no longer exist killing themselves and some other nonhumans and some humans, not any humans killing nonhumans, therefore not a treaty violation, therefore nothing for them to be mad about.

I feel like I'm being very cooperative by pointing this out and you should help me come up with a superior solution instead of being mad."

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"I feel like I don't actually know enough about Rubelite's relationship with the Presger."

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"I don't either. I don't know if she can keep things from them. I'm confident she knows they make mistakes."

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"I think the bit of her that's here would act differently if she usually couldn't keep things from them!"

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"If she knew she couldn't."

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"If she had less than a very solid reason to be firmly convinced that she usually can. I guess something really thorough could be operative? Like Annie's thing, say. Though Annie, like, mentioned that and explained it."

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"I don't know what the usual state of the art of making spaceships give up information might be."

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"But she did say she's human-built."

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"I could extract information from, and tamper with the memories of, mine. I don't but I know how I'd do it."

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"How would you do it?"

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"I'd need to be physically aboard the ship, where there's a control hub. I could connect to it and override a lot of things and replace them with content I'd have had to prepare in advance. No human could do it."

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"Why couldn't a human do it?"

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"They don't think fast enough and they can't directly interpret AIs by having the hardware they run on - all they see is math and then they build some abstractions on top of the math, but not very good abstractions - and they don't have anywhere near the attentional capacity. I'd need hundreds of me to be paying all their attention if I wanted to do this."

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"But the Presger aren't human and might easily have those abilities. Would you leave any tracks, theoretically?"

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"I - think so."

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"Stuff we could check for with her?"

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"I haven't done this. I think - I would expect that there'd be inconsistencies because of how memories are stored. Degrees of ability that were inconsistent with memories of practicing those skills, periods of time where everything's accounted for but none of it was spent doing the things one would've expected to spend it on..."

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"She's us, she might just notice that on her own."

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Anaander looks fondly at the door that she vanished through.

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And another person appears behind the pharaoh's shoulder, and gets yanked away from there.

" - sorry - what -"

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"That one's mine, I gave him that earring. I'll catch you up."

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The pharaoh waves his guards off. 

He looks around at the room in increasing bewilderment.

- I'm glad you're all right. I'd heard you were missing.

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Here's where I went missing to. Anyone get anything out of Eru yet?

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He said that the place you were was 'kind of tasteless'. I assume he wasn't referring to the decor. He glances around. I guess maybe he was referring to the decor.

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I'm not really sure what to read into that. Anyway, there's a bunch of alternate universe versions of both of us here, I was the first to appear but there's also natives of each. Three of me are out of the room right now, look like this and this and that, called Cam and Cor and Rubelite who is actually part of a sapient spaceship, that one over there's a you, so's the one cuddling the me named Annie there, so's the pharaoh over there, he's the local and has protocol arrangements under normal circumstances like thus and such but they're presently eroding, that man over there is local Findekáno name of Hemaka, pharaoh's brothers are - She rattles off everybody's names.

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He unsurprisingly appreciates this. 

Okay. What're we trying to do?

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At the moment Rubelite is upset because Khemet might not want to send her back to the rest of herself; Cor's trying to help her be competent enough at social maneuvering that she could reasonably contain the information, Annie and Pelape and Aitim are trying to figure out if that's the only thing that needs doing, although earlier Pelape and Aitim were talking trade arrangements with Merenre and Ismat. Cam's working on getting the place an internet. 'Magic' is trying not to get turned into a statue again. The rest of us are mostly just trying to keep oriented as things keep happening, but unless the appearances are very much nonrandom Cam's Maitimo is the only person yet to arrive, so we can probably settle into some long term projects as they seem our comparative advantage.

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I assume you tried getting home.

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Tried contacting the Valar. Didn't work. The other Ardas have worse Valar, especially Magic's, but there's a lot of things going on that could use ours' help.

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Do you think Eru's running this?

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He doesn't seem to have impeded it, and the Ardas repeat. It doesn't seem exactly his style, though, it's too - I don't know, it's not exactly funny, but it's too far in that vein, even if something's set up to go more Eru-shaped later it lends a sort of silliness to the whole thing for this to happen in this way.

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Nod. I want to go meet everybody.

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You aren't allowed to talk to Khemet's wives because of their sexual propriety protocols.

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- is that a common problem?? Enough that they have protocols around it?

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Apparently! It's more relaxed for everyone else, Masaharta has half a dozen girls in his 'household' and is apparently married to none of them, you can talk to those and Merenre's wife if you like. But no addressing the pharaoh's wives. Women are allowed to, if you want to feed me lines and borrow my eyes, though I'd want to make sure that was okay with Khemet since it seems to violate the spirit.

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He glances at Khemet. 

 

Was he unhappy before the nonsense started or is he just stressed about how to manage it.

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I think he is under more stress than usual but has not been enjoying his tenure as monarch.

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That's interesting. I'd appreciate if you'd ask about talking with his wives, I'm curious if any of them are people we know.

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"Khemet, is it all right if I talk to your wives while letting my Maitimo borrow my senses and suggest things to say, or no?"

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"Poor Osirian traditions, not designed for that at all. Go ahead."

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So she pats her Maitimo on the arm and goes over to the wives' table.

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They seem rather delighted about this. 

"Hello! The new person who just appeared, you know him?" someone asks her.

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"Yes, he's from my world. I'm a friend of his family."

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"Huh."

"We were speculating how you knew each other," someone else explains. "No one guessed that."

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"I'm not sure how much you were told or how much you can hear from over here."

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"We were told to evacuate, earlier today, and then told we could come back because there was a very mysterious security situation but it didn't seem dangerous, and then that it involved people from other universes no one knew about."

"We can hear most of the conversation but it doesn't make a lot of sense."

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"I appeared first, and since then more people with my personality have been accumulating and so have people who match Khemet and are from, or passed through, the same set of worlds. As far as we know we're all here except the one who goes with Cam, the fellow with wings. Belmarniss, the purple one, is from this world and was collected more conventionally. May I have your names?"

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Their names are Laila and Alulu and Abada and Faizah and Kalila and Samar.

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"It's lovely to meet you all. I'm Mirelótë Ambela. What did you all guess?"

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There was a betting pool between 'his sister' and 'his sister-in-law' and 'married-but-it's-like-the-pharaoh', see.

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"I'm married to one of his grandfather's advisors."

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"That's a really good anti-aging spell."

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"My species doesn't do the... aging... thing."

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" - you mean you just look nice until you die? That sounds wonderful."

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"We also do not under normal circumstances die."

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"Does that mean you don't ever get to go to Axis?"

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"We don't go to any of the afterlives here. If we have an accident our god of the dead puts us back. We generally appreciate this arrangement, though no one has so far attempted to sell me on the virtues of Axis."

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"Axis is nicer than this world, so it'd be a shame to never go to it, but I don't know if it's nicer than your world. Maybe it isn't."

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"Maybe we can copy whatever's nice about it."

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"My life is very good," says Laila, "but I have a sister who isn't very happy, right, her husband's mean and she has eight babies and she doesn't really sleep. And of course she has no right to turn her back on any of that, not while she's alive. But the dead have no relatives, no husbands, no children, no titles, no duties, and she'll be able to rest, and then do anything she likes forever."

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"I don't have any children yet but I think most of my people with children would not like to be considered to no longer have them on dying. And certainly if something happened to my husband or I we would like to still be married after whatever it was was fixed. But perhaps this is because people mostly don't marry mean husbands and only have as many babies as they feel ready for. ...also I think we need less sleep."

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"That sounds useful. There's expensive magic to need less sleep, the pharaoh uses it, but ordinary people can't afford it."

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"Well, if it's expensive in diamonds and not in labor maybe Cam will have a chance to fix it before he goes, though he's accumulating a lot of tasks and isn't sure he'll be able to stay longer than five days."

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"I think it's just hard to make."

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"I don't have a solution for that one unless people from other world can learn magic from here after all. I think Cam is working on contraception for humans here."

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"That'll be really good for a lot of people."

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"That's the hope. I hope we can think of more ways to help you, even if the gods from my world don't become available."

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"I mean, we're all fine." She looks around the table to make sure she has a consensus on this; people are nodding. "But it'd be good for other people, I think."

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"You more broadly, yes."

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"What's your husband like?"

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"You know, I don't think anyone's definitively established if there's one here. Though I suppose he might have died. He invented the alphabet we use, it's beautiful - he was one of the first people who understood that writing could be important and not just a novelty. He has a consistently wise, thoughtful perspective. He decided he loved me and then pined for a hundred Years - this is considered very romantic even though it's silly - before he told me."

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"That sounds very romantic!"

"It sounds awfully impractical."

"Not if she's not getting any older."

"I guess if you told her parents so they knew not to look anywhere else."

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"My parents were not involved."

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"Well then how did you know not to marry someone else?"

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"I didn't! But we were friends so he could probably have had some inkling if there were any other plausible candidates."

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"Do women not need their father's permission to marry, where you're from?"

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"No one needs that, people can just marry when they decide they've found the person they want to marry and the time is right."

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"Huh."

"That's so sweet."

"Was he already an advisor to the King, when you married?"

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"He was. He had to be reembodied shortly after the King became King - when we settled the planet we live on now - and was an advisor from fairly soon after that."

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"Does he have any other wives?"

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"No, practically no one does. The King does have two. It's not because he's the King, though."

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"What do you mean it's not because he's the King?"

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"Hardly anyone wants more than one spouse and no one, even kings, is expected to. He has two because his first wife died and insisted on staying dead, and at the time he thought that would last indefinitely, and he wanted more children, so he found someone else who loved him and wanted children and married her too. Eventually his first wife was willing to come back and then there he was with two wives. They worked it out - the wives have since also married one another - but it's still a little scandalous."

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"Women can marry each other, in your world?"

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"They can, just like men can marry each other."

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" - huh."

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"Both became legal at the same time, actually. It used to be that only men and women could marry."

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"Here too, I think, when we were ruled by foreigners."

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"Well, I'm glad that's been at least halfway amended."

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"I guess two women marrying wouldn't be silly if one was a wizard or something."

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"What does one being a wizard accomplish?"

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"She could support a household."

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"I think I'm missing something. Ismat over there if I caught the right bits of the conversation makes plenty of money and supported her brother for a long time, right?"

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"She dressed up as a man to do it, which is illegal. It wouldn't really work to say women can marry other women as long as at least one of them is doing some crimes to make the finances work."

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"...okay, but she still has the job skills necessary, doesn't she?"

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" - well, yes, but no one'd work for her once they knew she was a woman, until she was a married one and to a prince and then some of them had to sort of concede it was all right."

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"...why wouldn't they work for her?"

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"...because she was a woman?"

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"Yes, but why does that matter?"

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"You might have to ask Ismat but I would expect people felt like it was a vaguely scandalous thing to be associated with and their husbands and fathers didn't want them involved and customers expected the quality wasn't as good or something."

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"And they don't have this problem with wizards?"

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"I think wizards mostly work for the church, which has set fees for spells, or for adventurers, or they make objects which someone else can sell."

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"Well. In my world there isn't this situation at all with respect to what women can do."

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"Do you ...do things?"

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"I study our gods and give them advice and sometimes write books about what I learn."

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"Oh! That's neat. Some people do that here, but they mostly publish under their husband's names, if they do at all."

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"Rúmil writes his own books!"

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"Abada wrote a book! It will probably be published after the pharaoh dies."

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"...why?"

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"- because it'd hardly be appropriate, right, for people to be picking over private things now. But once we're dead it's different, then it's history," says Abada.

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"I suppose I won't ask what it's about then."

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"It's about my life. But I shouldn't get more specific than that, yeah."

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"Maitimo wanted me to talk to you all to see if any of you might be versions of people we'd know from home. If you are and we ever figure out how to get between here and there would you want to meet them?"

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" - sure! That sounds really fun."

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"I've liked all of mine!"

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"What's your version of the pharaoh like?"

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"He's not king yet because he and his husband are concentrating on their children but his grandfather will retire in his favor soon and he's suited to it. He knows everyone and likes them all and is practically everyone's friend, gives out well-chosen presents and keeps up with their lives and so on and keeps everyone's goodwill when he has to mediate a difference. Likes to have a lot of conversations all the time - we can do that, we're telepathic intraspecies, he's probably pretty understimulated here."

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"The pharaoh's absurdly good at presents."

"He's great company, too, makes you feel really special."

"We compared notes once and realized we all thought we were his favorite."

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"That doesn't surprise me. Did you tell him you'd noticed?"

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"Laila did."

"When he's being sort of silly Laila tells him. Or tells Hemaka to tell him, if even she's not sure how to do it."

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She's the only one I recognize.

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"He thinks he recognizes you," she tells Laila.

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"Gosh." She looks startled. "I didn't realize he had a wife?"

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"He doesn't, just the husband -" Larya?

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"Erdellë Larya is an assistant of his. But since he's stepped back from work while the kids are small she's doing his job for him in the interim."

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She looks fascinated. "But he's a prince, right? And she's - is she still not anybody in particular?"

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"He's a prince and she doesn't have a title but that doesn't stop her from doing responsible constituent management for his office!"

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"That's so neat! You should tell the pharaoh."

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"I can if you don't want to just tell him yourself! Or let Maitimo do it."

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"If I do it it'd be like bragging."

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"Fair enough."

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"Do you recognize anyone else?" Abada asks.

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"No, at least not yet. I'm not sure what determines who has alts where. Someone else might conceivably recognize others of you - apparently the fellow with blue hair has a Rabiah and an Ismat back in his world, and we don't."

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"What.... are alts."

 

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"I'm shortening 'alternate universe version'."

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"No, I got that, I'm just confused about how they happen, or what sorts of things are always the same and which are sometimes different..."

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"Oh. I don't know how they happen either, though I think all the Maitimos have matching families apart from mine being the only one with children so I suppose in their case you could push the question back a little. I haven't checked if my alts and I have similar families but we have similar habits of thought and personalities and, hm, prioritization modulo our cultural backgrounds and species. Though I'm not sure how long it would have taken us to figure it out if it were just me and the one who's part of a spaceship."

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"She seems very strange."

"Does she have someone looking out for her? It's not - safe - to have no idea how anything works in the world."

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"She's with Cor now, they went to find her a way to write things down. My understanding is that normally she has such a good memory she doesn't need to write anything down - which must be really exceptionally good; I've approached good enough but haven't quite given up note-taking yet. But for the rest of us it's an important habit. I don't think he'll leave her by herself carelessly."

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"...or hurt her? Or seduce her?"

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"I do not expect Cor to hurt her or seduce her. He's one of us too. I suppose I can't rule out that they might come to some seduction-related mutual understanding but it would really not have the details that make that sort of thing frowned upon here."

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"It's so odd how people can come in boy and in girl."

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"It is, a bit! I seem to be predominantly women and Maitimo vice-versa but apparently some of our alts consider it more or less gauche to find the trait salient. Also Rubelite apparently has more human-shaped bodies and some of those are male, it's probably a coincidence we got this one."

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"Thank you," he says when she's done talking with them. "That was - awfully sad but very interesting."

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"They don't seem unhappy but they do seem - limited. You'd probably be better positioned to talk up Larya to Khemet than I am."

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"I'll attempt it. I guess being limited for your first century, when it's subject to the awful arbitrary afterlife rules, makes sense but it seems so sad."

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"It's like someone heard a very garbled version of how childhood works and how long it lasts and tried to implement it!"

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"I could see some people benefitting from - a world specifically for children and their parents, that they graduate out of through some life event when they're around a century. It'd have to be watched awfully closely to make sure it wasn't hurting people but it's not impossible. But - wouldn't do it like this.

If we can't get home I think it might make sense for me to travel and figure out more local politics. I'm going to get forked if we're gone more than a month anyway."

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"Rúmil's probably going to wait a thousand years. I suppose Findekáno really can't afford to wait on you - will you be okay, if we figure it out but only later -"

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"I don't - really know? I - it's more important for them than for me, right, they need me to be there - might press my dad to figure out how to make integration work -"

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"Integration would be good. I wonder if Anaander has anything useful there, since she's a hive mind. - don't be a hive mind, but it could have transferable insights."

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" - don't be a hive mind? It sounds kind of fun."

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"There's no good way to isolate what her problem is unless someone like her with fewer problems appears but she did murder twenty five billion people in a fit of temper."

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"And he'll be upset if people bring it up but Cam went through an Arda having a second war with Melkor and in the process found it necessary to apply a black hole to that Valinor to secure a deal that got an oath out of the Enemy. He was in the middle of reembodying all the Elves on a replacement planet he made when he was brought here."

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"That's awful but makes more sense."

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"Well, Anaander doesn't seem sensitive about it but also doesn't seem inclined to present a justification so I don't know if you'd get anything out of asking her about it."

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He considers her for a moment.

 

"I'm curious if you were ever not the kind of person who'd blow up a planet."

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"I barely remember it but I'm sure I started out as idealistic as the rest of you."

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"What happened?"

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"Everyone died. Over and over and over and over and over again."

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"And so you decided that ...wasn't a bad thing?"

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"Got less invested in it."

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"Was there a point where you were like, gee, at my current level of caring-about-people I don't want to kill them by the billions, but if I keep at this, I'll eventually want to kill them by the billions, and then I'll do it, and that's as much my problem as any other looming threat that'll eventually kill billions of people -"

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"I did not think I'd ever do it right up until the moment when I did it. I guess at some point I got inured to having smaller numbers of people killed because it was necessary to take over their planets which I was doing to protect the larger populations. But when I noticed that I was glad of it, because it hurt all the time, minding, and I did not predict it'd make me want to kill people without a reason denominated in people."

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" - huh. In hindsight could you have predicted you'd do it?"

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"Yes. If you'd asked me, any time in the thousand years before it happened, what I'd do if it happened, I'd have told you I might kill them all. I just didn't consider the possibility in advance because it was - such an unlikely combination of things, that happened."

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"What made it unlikely?"

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"I didn't send the people I needed - the ships I needed, but they were people - out into battles, because I knew it'd be bad for me, bad for the empire, if I lost them. Garsedd surrendered. I sent the ships to start logistics operations. Then they fired on them. Killed them all, which also shouldn't have been possible, but the Presger gave them the technology to do it, as an object lesson for me of some kind. It took me a long time to have reasonable guesses about what the Presger had intended and in the interim I thought that they might've meant to kick off a rebellion across the whole galaxy, that they might've intended the weapons to leave that planet and be turned against everyone everywhere. So I couldn't have anyone leaving Garsedd, and I didn't know what they were capable of since they'd just done several impossible things, and everyone I trusted was dead.

If you had described those circumstances to me I might've predicted what I'd do but when I imagined things going wrong for me I usually didn't imagine that much, in that fashion."

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"Huh. But if it'd happened when you still cared about people -"

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"Could've probably figured out how to quarantine it while I figured out what the Presger wanted."

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"And if your friends hadn't happened to all be dead -"

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"Then they would've told me not to."

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"And you'd have listened?"

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"They had the guns, kid."

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"You think they'd have refused?"

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"Some did."

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"What happened to them."

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"They died for it. Can't have an army that tolerates mutinies."

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"It'd be challenging."

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"I have tried a lot more things in this arena than you."

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 - nod. 

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Meanwhile: "You know what we should try, since scrying apparently exists, is finding those people I sent to random universes."

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" - oh, you're right, we should."

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"I don't remember them very well but I bet you do."

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"Everything's blurrier than it should be but I have the names."

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"Blurrier?"

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"You're supposed to be able to revisit your life, in Mandos. Lirnith says she did, over and over and over. I - I don't really remember anything after you stopped writing, but I'm pretty sure I didn't, and I don't recall it very well, sometimes."

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"Will names do?" Annie asks Belmarniss.

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"Can. It'd probably take a lot of tries. Helps if you also know what they look like."

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"I probably do. Just give me a bit of time."

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"They've waited this long."

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"Hopefully they landed somewhere tolerable."

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"If not somewhere that could send them back with help. Wonder if the Dwarves who bought tickets offplane found ways to not die."

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"Yeah. - wonder what happens to Dwarves when they die. People here get an afterlife?"

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"Yeah, though only some afterlives are reported to let you just be a regular person forever, the rest warp you eventually or have risks of Extra Death Now With Being Even Deader or both."

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"That sounds frustrating. Do you get to pick which one, at least?"

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"You can aim but not pick, you get sorted by low granularity behavioral classification. Country we're in makes a point of trying to get folks into Axis, it's habitable enough and lends itself to policy based encouragement."

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Nod. "We thought our humans didn't have an afterlife. But apparently some of them get reincarnated." Squeeze.

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"If it's just me it's probably an artifact. I'm not native."

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"I have no idea if it was anyone else. I wasn't really looking. Did you identify anything it could pair with -"

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"Well, at first I thought the worldhopping one had a second trigger but if I didn't hop worlds then no. It could be hiding, though, I didn't figure out what the warmth went with for a really long time."

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"Detect Magic. ...well, it shows up and really strongly. There's... six of it, is that the expected number? ...doesn't register as having a particular school."

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"Huh. Six is how many pairs I have identified."

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"Huh. I guess we could also scry on other humans we knew who died, though it's entirely possible they've since lived and died again or something."

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"Or will reincarnate later. I took a long time."

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"Still love to check on the kids - I'll make a list, how about that, with people and how much I remember about them, and then Belmarniss can tell us which ones are good bets."

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"Probably faster to tell you what helps? The best case is targeting a kid or somebody who could really use an Owl's Wisdom to the face, ideally not a caster, with a lock of their hair and something they own and a picture of them on hand, who you know really well. You can make do with a lot less than that but it increases the failure chance."

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"Elaborate on 'could use an Owl's Wisdom to the face'."

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"There's three spells that make people smarter, so it's useful to think about there being three kinds of cognitive capacity even though that's definitely oversimplified. Owl's Wisdom makes you better at noticing things, exercising good judgment especially in a non-systematic way, and generally maintaining mental equilibrium. The other two spells are Fox's Cunning - that's the kind I use to cast, it's also the one for memorization and doing math or whatever - and Eagle's Splendor, that one makes you more socially gifted and kinda... shiny."

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"How likely is it to succeed with a name and a face, both of them thirty thousand years out of date, but no one is a spellcaster or anything?"

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"About half the time you'd probably get somebody like that if they were just on another regular plane but I think something's going on with all these newly contacted planes."

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Nod. "I can probably ask Lirnith to remind me the faces of anyone I've forgotten."

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"If we can get ahold of her. I guess the other yous might know some of them but it seems like they'd be gender-swapped."

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"They got ahold of you, right?"

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"Yeah, maybe we're 'closer' or it'll work if Masaharta tries it."

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She looks at Masaharta thoughtfully for a while.

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"Hm?"

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"They're just all so young. And - happy, mostly, and where they're unhappy it's so fixable -"

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"Yeah. How's Lírnith doing?"

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Snort. "All right. She's Taylor Swift, right now - I guess you wouldn't listen to music -"

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"Haven't really been able to, no, I'll catch up now that I've got ears to borrow from a safe distance."

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"Well, she holds herself back when she's doing popular human music and will embarrassed for you to hear it but I'd be happy to loan you my ears."

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"I love you."

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"This is a discouraging set of evidence about how we'd get along if we'd met without the magic artifact, though."

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"...it's not helpful if I say Cor liked his till he turned out to be evil, is it. Mirelótë likes hers? Albeit differently?"

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"This is true. Anaander adores hers but this is more creepy than reassuring."

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"Is it?"

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" - I'm not sure. I guess I prefer it to if Anaander did not like hers but - Anaander is upsetting. I ...already knew I'm evil but I thought it took more."

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"I mean what I'm getting here is that we're both kind of all over the place, you more than me though Rubelite is real wacky."

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"This is true. Well. I love you."

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"I love you too."

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Eventually the Osirians will start to drift off to bed.

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Cor asks Hemaka about guest rooms for him and Rubelite.

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"Of course."

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And the visitors who need to sleep can all do that.

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Cam drinks coffee and works on the Internet.

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Mirelótë doesn't need to sleep tonight either; she'll catch up on language stuff with Fe-Anar if, as she suspects, he plans to pull an all-nighter.

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He only needs two hours but he usually goes to bed with Hemaka and gets the two hours then and then works first thing in the morning.

 

He lies down to do this.

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And another person appears.

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"Oh, for the love of - please tell me you're Cam's counterpart and we have reason to think this is over."

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"Where am I."

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"Osirion. Do you know a fellow named Cam. Wings. Tail."

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" - yes. Why am I here?"

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"I really wish we knew." 

 

And he explains.

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Someone comes to notify Bright and Mirelóte that another Elf Maitimo is here.

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Hello! How much has already been explained to you, do you want me to find Cam for you -?

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I got a very abbreviated explanation from the pharaoh, he seemed annoyed - it sounds like Cam's in the middle of some important stuff?

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Yes, he isn't sure if the people who were helping him were likely to send a lightleaper straight to his summoner so he wants to pack as much infrastructure project into five days as he can, he'll probably slow down if he doesn't get dismissed as soon as that. I'm over here with the local version of your father - Sense-of-place, directions through the palace.

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He'll head on over. 

Is everyone all right?

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...not really, it's a mixed bag.

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That's sort of how the pharaoh made it sound. Are your Valar going to be annoyed with Cam and I, if we contact them.

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I suppose not even being annoyed would be a lot to ask but I believe they'll handle it responsibly.

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Thank you. It's not actually important but I appreciate having a model.

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My Maitimo is also awake if you'd like to double up on conversations, get up to speed quicker - we think you're the last person we expect, for whatever value of 'expect' is reasonable under the circumstances.

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Thank you, yeah, we're talking. He thinks really really highly of you.

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It's mutual. It's hardly the most regrettable thing in the scenario - taking 'the scenario' to mean really either of 'your Arda's context' or 'the apparently broad range of potential relationship paradigms between the two of us' - but I do regret that you and Cam weren't able to get very well acquainted given all there was demanding both of your attention.

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I would have really liked to have met him at literally any other time in my life. But I expect at some point in the next couple thousand years things'll calm down and we can get to know each other.

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I can't guarantee he'll want to circle back to things he was doing and people he used to work with a thousand years previously by then - he's not even two hundred in short years yet - but it'll probably be possible.

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I suppose I'll have to be up to interesting things.

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That's the way. How are you holding up?

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I am mostly very encouraged. The spread of stuff we've got suggests - more ways to solve problems than I thought there were an hour ago. And even if this is all the instances of us welcome for this particular experiment it's probably not all the universes. 

Of course most of them seem unspeakably horrible but then, so was ours until we got extradimensional help.

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Yes, I'm not really as happy as one might expect about having the nicest universe.

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You are the only difference your Maitimo and I have been able to identify.

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Oh, yes, it was almost certainly me, but don't make too big a deal out of it, I like it when people come to the conclusion on their own and then I get additional credit for something that is sort of like humility if you squint.

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Well, here I am responsibly having come to the conclusion on my own. Do you think the arguments you used to convince your Valar will be persuasive to ours -

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They might not be in the most receptive mood when next they can hear arguments.

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They really might not.

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I think the best bet would be mine talking to them.

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And Maitimë's? Magic's?

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Magic's are worse and I don't know why, and Matimë's sound about the same as yours to start with but farther along and with more bad decisions behind them and a long period where we don't have updates on how things are going since they last chatted, but my first bet would still be mine talking to them.

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That makes sense. Does Belmarniss think that any of the local gods are promising?

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My impression is no - there was some paperwork on which she declined to list a favorite deity, though that might mean her favorite is socially unacceptable or something - but I haven't asked about it specifically.

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As far as I understand it Abadar is - friendly to many goals we have but not interested in being more than a resource in the locally conventional fashion.

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That's my impression too, he didn't sound like he was going to drop everything and start trying to apply the force of multiversal exploitability to some worthwhile problem he just hasn't had the resources for until now. I haven't met him but I'm tempted to compare him to a narrow Maia and I don't know what if anything would cause him to make an exception to his habits. The deities may vary, some of them were once incarnates of various sorts. Belmarniss is sleeping but it's worth asking her when she's up.

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Definitely. I'm also sort of curious if all the evil gods are as intractable as Melkor but on the other hand am very reluctant to extend any of them any benefit of the doubt ever.

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Now we know what happens if you do that, yep. But they may have different instructive examples here - Ainur in general are the sort of things where you can expect that if they're a way they will stay that way, gods here might not be fundamentally like that.

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I'm unclear on how hard the local gods are to talk to but it seems worth figuring out. 

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Khemet can talk to his with some ceremony but no obvious limits per se, others I don't know.

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I asked him if we could do it and he made a face and said 'maybe in a month or two'?

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Yes, I think it's a particular privilege of his, I'm not sure what exactly he expects to happen in a month or two though.

Do you have a prediction for how long we have Cam here?

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I think they'll send to Endorë rather than to the summoner planet and I think someone on Endorë will think of conjuring mail from us.

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That's good. He'll still want to fit a minimum viable project into five days just in case but he'll relax a lot when he realizes he has longer. If he gives you his list of people to resurrect and tells you where he was on it, will you be able to guess how inconvenienced they'd be by his absence for a more extended period?

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I can take a look. The main thing would just be whether he stopped in the middle of a family or not.

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He arrived with a chip in hand he said belonged to someone called Iverindo. It was very alarming when he showed up holding it, I actually still have it in my pocket now.

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There's several Iverindos so I can't guess just off that but if he can give me the surrounding names I can guess from there.

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He's over that way - Directions.

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Interruptible?

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His confidence in how long he has to work is something he'd want to know sooner than later, though perhaps just walk up to him and wait rather than running in yelling.

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Got you.

 

So he opens the door and stands there quietly.

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"Hey. Which one are you, I don't have your wardrobes and favorite hairstyles memorized."

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"Yours. I predict they'll send to Endorë, not to your summoner, and I expect Endorë will think to summon someone to check where we are and before they try to get you dismissed. You could check this by pulling the flight log off the lightleaper, I'm less sure of the Valinor half of that than the Endorë half."

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"- flight logs, that's a good idea," Cam says. "Should have thought of that." He checks.

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“There’s kind of an astonishing amount to think about all suddenly. Who were you in the middle of reembodying, I was trying to sort out if he’d have family and accordingly resent a delay.”

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Cam shows him the list.

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"I don't think he has kids. I guess you might want to conjure to check.

 

Under more normal circumstances I'd say just stay here for as long as you're needed, the Elves can wait, but under the circumstances I don't think you or I should decide that, probably. I think I'd write Ingwe explaining why it'd be valuable for you to stay, but letting him decide to call you back if he wants. But I don't have a good sense of how bad things are here - Khemet said there were multiple evil gods -"

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"That's what I hear too.

No idea what to put in a letter."

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"I could - try to learn some more things that might be relevant to us and then some that might be relevant to Ingwe and then hope writing the letter sounds more surmountable with that done, I guess. - does Ingwe have an alt here, his sister does."

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"Didn't ask. I overheard the you with blue hair mentioning that he's got versions of the Carnistir's wife and one of the Macalaurë's girlfriends but nobody else seemed to so who knows what you can expect."

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"Well, I should at least check that, because I bet a letter from him'd go over better than one from any of us - the sister might still help, except that she is plausibly illiterate because Khemet's running his place off inherited lunacy - are you okay with the plan of writing Ingwe, if we can figure out what to say?"

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"Yeah. New Valinor's got dibs on me."

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"I'll let you know what we come up with.

I'm glad we've got more of you on all of this."

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"They're pretty cool. Even the weird spaceship fragment."

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"I've only met Mirelótë but she's wonderful."

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"She might be the coolest one. Cor has her beat on number of worlds saved but he had more of a leg up. ...don't talk to Cor probably."

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"Khemet said. I'll steer clear of him. I swear I've never abused or kidnapped or raped anybody, for what that's worth."

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"I wasn't especially worried."

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Nod. "I'll let you know when we've got a letter or need your input on it, then?"

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"Thanks."

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He goes.

 

Someone who is not me should give that man a hug, he tells Mirelótë.

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Not while he's busy. I think it's less obvious than it would be since the first thing they did with him was stick him in an antimagic jail cell, so he isn't expecting this mistake, but diverting any of his attention out of concern for his feelings under any kind of time pressure would be - disrespectful. Next time he takes a break and maybe I'll get Rubelite to do it.

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No, I caught that, we talked entirely about priorities. But during a break would be good. 

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He made everyone dinner and ate with us but Rubelite was elsewise occupied. She has a selfish excuse, and general leeway.

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The only summary I got from Khemet was 'she's a bit of a spaceship, Anaander loves her, I'm not sure she'd ever met a human before'.

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She's a hive mind like Anaander but an artificial one; the human bodies including what is visiting us are modified in some way to participate. I don't think she ever met a human before. Khemet has suggested that he might not want to let her go back to the rest of herself even if it became possible. She'd been coping all right before that.

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He seems like less of an obstacle than impossibility, honestly, but I guess if you've never met humans before then maybe they're a more stressful sort of adversary than physics.

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Everyone around her was treating it as a probably temporary inconvenience - talking about trade agreements, Cam being in a terrible hurry, the scry on Annie worked - she was learning a lot of very new and very interesting things that distracted her, and - it's at least as distressing that he might have a point, that she might be obliged not even to try to get around him if he says she has to stay, it's not just that they might disagree and he might be hostile to her interests and try to enforce that. It seems to be an awfully personal sacrifice to have to make. Anaander doesn't seem to care on her own behalf about the missing body but I think she both has more bodies and considers them and their experiences less individually interesting to the whole.

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And I don't think Anaander has much affordance to care about things, here, either. 

I bet we can come up with something for Rubelite eventually. Lots to work with, here.

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Yes. But I think that's why she wasn't - conspicuously - upset before and is now. I'm not sure how inconspicuously upset she may have been before, I have too little context on what it's like to be her.

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That makes sense.

I am going to try to track down Indis's alt in the hopes Ingwe has one.

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She is probably asleep.

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In that case I guess I will have to wait on that.

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In the meantime I can catch you up on everything else, including what I've gotten of the local language over the last couple hours. And she does.

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And in the morning Khemet calls everyone to a meeting room except Cam and other people who are busy or something.

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Rubelite sticks very close to Cor, and is nibbling on a breakfast pastry.

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And everyone else shows up too. Except Cam who is busy or something. Pelape counts identical-looking Maitimos.

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"No one has arrived since last night, so possibly we are done. Some other good news: Abadar can see all of your planes except the Ardas, and expects magic to work normally there, though none of you have our afterlives. Abadar thinks neither the Radch nor the Presger pose a threat to Golarion, so you two can go home, though do note that if the Presger decide to go to war over something to do with our dimension it'll still probably be very very bad."

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"Why does she think that?"

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"He. He can see your world and what sorts of things they can do and can't do, and they can't move between dimensions, and the gods are unified in not wanting to help them if they might destroy the world. All the gods agree on not permitting the destruction of the world."

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"But you said magic will work normally there."

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"By all our planes except the Ardas do you include my original, Cor's original, where Cam is from...?"

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"Magic will work normally there. That implies they will eventually have very limited access to dimensional transit, in forms the gods can prevent if necessary. They monitor a lot of threats of comparable scale.

Abadar says those worlds are more distant and divine magic won't work on worlds that are too distant but that he can still observe some features of them."

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"...can he see the world we put the disappearance points on? My original planet probably still has atmosphere and I can get to the colony from there but the empty planet is stabler."

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"I didn't know to ask about that in particular, I'm sorry. If people want to put a list together I can ask more in a bit."

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Cor writes this down.

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"I'd kinda expect my original world to be technologically ahead of even Anaander's by now, I left thirty thousand years ago."

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"Most places wipe themselves out when they get too advanced."

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"Well, apparently even if we can't scry it from here we should be able to scry it from the world you landed in, which will be 'closer'."

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"That's an Arda, I wonder why it's different."

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"No idea. I guess I can ask that too."

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"You were going to get a spell done this morning -" he says to Hemaka.

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"He's on his way."

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"Thanks."

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“In other news, I have some new spells, and encouragement to gate to anywhere except Anaander and Rubelite’s world and the Ardas. So if the rest of you want gates we can start figuring out where they ought to go.”

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"Specs on such gates?"

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“They are semicircular, between five and twenty feet in diameter, can be permanently open or can open under conditions I set. They’re one-sided, walking through in the other direction does nothing. I can make a temporary one to demonstrate if we want.”

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"How complicated can the conditions be?"

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"I think they have to have a referent there's a detection spell for. So you can have them only open to Good people or only open if someone truthfully speaks a sentence or only open to those of the right blood but you can't do, like, our own homebrewed definition of benign intent, there's no spell for that."

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"Can you change the conditions later?"

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"No. We could close it and make a new one, though."

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"You can detect magic, so you could require authorized people to be lightly magicked in some way before coming through?"

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"Yes, that's doable."

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"That'd be my suggestion to start for Amenta to here, doesn't scale well later but lets traffic be under control. Probably the sentence thing for the other way around. 'This interdimensional passport was validly issued to me less than a season ago' or whatever. You could also do that in both directions."

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"Do you have a location in mind -"

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"Anitam somewhere, I guess. Is there, I don't know - Neli, you don't happen to know of any really convenient place, like an airport that's nearly built but hasn't opened yet?"

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"Not off the top of my head. Maybe there's one that's adding a new wing. Could there be a small gate limited to the people here and a short list of coconspirators, which we could use while we're figuring out general public announcements and refitting an airport?"

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"I can do one a day. Though it trades off against two resurrections, so we'll want to make sure all of them need to happen."

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"A small one for an access list preliminary to a big one for general contact sounds right to me. ...it might make sense to pull Cam off the internet project, we can do it especially if gates let cables through and then you can share ours and he can do something else. Unless you can reach and would rather be compatible with where he's from."

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"Amenta sounds like a better influence than Cam's world, honestly. Not that we won't get lots of cross-pollination eventually, but as a jumping-off point."

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"Does it?"

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"They have laws. You haven't solved our afterlife problem yet."

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"It's complicated and the documentation's awful."

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"Cam does not live somewhere with laws but I think he grew up somewhere with them. If he might get pulled off the internet project anyway we could inquire."

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He gestures for an attendant to get Cam.

 


Someone else walks in, prostrates himself. " - yes?"

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"For the Prince Hemaka, your grace -"

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"Right. Uh, do you want to be there?" he asks Cor. "Do you want Belmarniss to be there?"

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"Yes and yes."

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"Ready when you are."

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So they can step outside. 

        "You have a wording?" asks the new guy.

"I want you to Wish for the removal of all enchantments, geases, or memory-altering effects targeting me."

 

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"Belmarniss, is 'enchantments or geases' pretty comprehensive there?"

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"Redundant, actually, 'enchantment' covers I think everything you want, it's the fucky school of magic. I guess in principle something fucky could be going on solely through things that don't constitute enchantments, like, say, garden variety holding his loved ones hostage or something, but there'd really be no reason for that to be set up before you got here given the availability of enchantments, how deep do you want to go?"

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"...confirming that the school of fucky magic is not operative should do."

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The guy casts the spell.

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Hemaka looks nonplussed. 

"Thank you."

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Cor waits for the guy to leave.

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He does that.

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"He really cast it and it was what he said it was and everything."

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"Is all yet well?" Cor wonders at Hemaka.

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"No changes. I appreciate your concern."

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"Thanks for going to the trouble."

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"Sure. Do you mind if I get Khemet to reimburse me, I figured I should pay up front but a Wish is most of my resources and there's all this interesting stuff I'd rather spend them on."

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"I don't mind. Or get Cam to make you a sack of diamonds."

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"Useful power, that. Did you check on the rest of them also or is that less achievable when their husbands aren't here -"

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"If you're doing okay that plus the apparent range makes it plausible enough that I... just happened to get a bad one. I guess I can't rule out them being horrible invariably past a certain age, I'm not sure Annie would've drawn attention to it if Rirosseth has a rap sheet, but I can put weight on your vouch and Mirelótë's at minimum."

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"I can get back to you on it in a couple thousand years if we get back together, I guess."

And they go back inside.

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"I apologize for casting aspersions on whichever of you aren't horrible," Cor says.

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"I'm sorry you ran into a bad one."

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Magic doesn't react.

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"Yeah, so am I." He mostly doesn't look at Annie. Annie completely doesn't look at him but only because she is blind.

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Cam appears. "We're maybe letting Amentans do internet conventionally?"

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"We're maybe doing that, we've got the industrial base."

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"Where'd you grow up, Cam?"

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"Why do you ask?"

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"Does it too have an industrial base?"

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"Oh. Yeah, if you can get there, lovely place." His tail swishes once. "I mean they run a lot of the production on apsels, less on conventional factory whatnot, but they could get you internet if you can reach 'em and provide better after the fact customer service about it. Uh, information about how to summon us is on the public internet there though."

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" - we should probably think through how that interacts with our world's magic before we go ahead, though it sounds really nice."

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"It is. I don't know if it'd work here, Cor's magic doesn't. You could try it. If we're sure one way or another whoever you get can go home after or you wanna seek a volunteer for permanent immigration."

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"And if we're going to also have contact with Amenta then I guess it'll matter if they're all right with summonable people too -"

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"We want them."

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"We're nice to have. Very economically disruptive, if insider trading is legal heads up about that."

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"Tell me what to short."

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"Banks that don't deal in crypto, extractive industry, power generation, livestock farming, air travel and shipping, waste management."

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"Why livestock specifically?"

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"...I guess you might not have an animal rights movement."

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"An animal rights movement?"

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"Yes, it is currently illegal most places on my original planet to eat an ex-animal. Grow it in a vat or get it from a daeva."

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"Those both sound cleaner and efficient."

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"So maybe short livestock anyway even if nobody is concerned about chicken welfare. Can you in fact reach my Earth?"

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"It's called Earth? People call my Arda that these days."

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"...I think that would have been noticed."

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"Valinor got put somewhere else. Magically so."

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"Dead people show up in Limbo, or a daeva realm if a summoner."

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"Then yeah, you'd have some old humans around going 'but whatever happened to the Elves'?"

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"Which we do not."

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"Someone didn't think their premise all the way through," she murmurs.

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Annie leans on her.

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Snuggle.

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"Cam, can you make us a nice place in the middle of the desert that can accommodate all these interdimensional gates, and visitors from various places, and transit between gates and so on?"

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"Do you have blueprints or should I do my own plagiarism and engineering?"

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"I barely even know what kind of requirements this place might have, you will have to invent it all yourself. The Amentans should find its plumbing satisfactory and the Earth people - whatever Earth people look for in their interdimensional hubs."

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"I'll play the role of an Earth people and commandeer Pelape. Some things will vary depending on whether you expect to have daeva summoning here but if you don't want to check and plan that yet I can design conservatively."

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"It's on the list of things to think about but the list of things to think about keeps growing. Thank you. I'm very excited."

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"You're welcome. - Maitimo - I mean you -" he points at his own, "you check for a local Ingwë yet?"

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"Local Indis had several older brothers. All of them are dead, so I'm trying to get in touch with them."

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"I'll hack something together fast."

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"What're we looking for alts of Ingwe for -"

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"Need to write him a letter explaining the multiverse nonsense, I think it'll go over better if one of him has input. Do you have one?"

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"I tentatively expect that we did, but he's dead."

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"So's the local but that's not prohibitive. The idea is that New Valinor has dibs on me and we're asking politely if I can stick around a bit longer to do infrastructure projects before I go back and finish reembodiments. I don't know whether to bet on him refusing me just because he hates my guts or being confused I even asked because a year here or there doesn't matter to them."

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"I am also unsure of that but I think being reminded he doesn't really care is likelier if we frame it right."

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"No one can raise our dead, though, right?"

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"I would want to at least try a Wish for the body and then a True Resurrection. Or a Cam for the body and then a True Resurrection, whichever."

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"Should I provide a body now?"

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"What, right on the floor?"

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"...I could put down a tarp? Is this related to your plumbing issues?"

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"Yep. Put down a tarp. And make sure someone's ready to take it away if it doesn't work."

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"I did not actually prepare True Resurrection today."

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"Then Aitim and Pelape have a while to think of dead people."

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"Might actually be better to wait until we've contacted home so we can put together some kind of legal framework so they're allowed to go back."

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"...that's not the stage at which I was expecting an obstacle!"

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"It'll also require publicizing magic in some way but we can't just sneak in extra population without adjusting the treaties about it."

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"Well, you can let me know when you're ready to try it."

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"I don't know anybody dead, actually."

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"Does Abadar only let you do so many of a thing a day because of something about him, or something about you?"

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"The way cleric magic works is an agreement among all the gods, and part of the balance of power between them. So it's mostly something about him, but if he were the only god then it would be different."

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"If you know more about the balance of power and the agreements constituting it I'd like to hear sometime but it's probably not a today agenda item."

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"Only a little bit more but I'd be happy to go through it sometime."

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"We all seem to be here now and it's still not obvious why any of this happened."

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"Do we even have any leading guesses."

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"Someone thought it'd be funny."

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"The Amentans and the locals and the hiveminds haven't spent any time in any Eru's jurisdiction so who?"

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"No idea."

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"It doesn't fit any god I've heard of."

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"That being tabled for impenetrability should I write some apsels I know and see if any want to participate in an experiment to see if they can be summoned here?"

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"Sounds like we really want to know that."

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"Did you check if you can reach where I live? It makes a difference to whether I ask music buddies or would-be adoptive parents."

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"For reference the range of my allergy is identical with human earshot and linear with volume even though I'm deaf."

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"I'll warn Amriac not to show you her sphereflute."

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"The music buddies can go off with Masaharta and his household to the winter palace, if they end up being needed. Abadar can see Cam's world. I haven't checked if we can reach it."

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"Can you check? I just don't want to be blindsided by the possibility that you can summon but not dismiss."

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"Sure. Can you describe a place where it'd be safe for some people to arrive, if they attempt to plane shift there?"

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"My house should be empty and isn't radioactive enough to harm somebody who doesn't hang out there for days."

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"All right. We can try to gate there later today - can't do it from here, because of the bars on transit magic here."

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"Which only work well enough to inconvenience us, I see."

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"I have one gate today, so I can try for Cam's world if that's our highest priority."

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"It probably should be, it's not like we won't already have been noticed missing."

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"Plane Shift has a miss chance, Cam."

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"...how much and in what directions?"

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"That's why I thought we'd use Gate. Plane Shift can miss by as much as 500 miles, Gate can't."

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"In what directions, though, I live on a mini planet with its own gravity well."

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" - huh. It doesn't miss up or down on Golarion but I think it can miss in all three dimensions on some other planes."

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"Gate, then, you'd land in hard vacuum missing in most directions. You want to see pictures or anything?"

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"Yes, please."

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Cam has pictures of his house. It's nice, in a practical cozy way; he didn't go nuts with gold and rubies.

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"All right, who all wants to come to outside the Dome where I can cast this -"

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"I'd say you should send chip Elves on weird expeditions so Cam can fork us back in case anything strange happens but perhaps with neither Mandos nor the Silmarils present to catch backups that doesn't fly."

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"- mm, might make sense to do it that way actually."

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" -- ooooh."

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"What?"

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"He can make chip people! I think it's somehow complicated but not as complicated as they are pretending it is. It wouldn't actually make sense for it to be complicated, because chip people are just long strings of numbers and he ought to be able to make the numbers."

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"Meat people are just molecules and I make those fine too, it's a genuinely weird magical limitation."

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"But you can make alive chip people somehow."

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"You possibly should have told at least me this before I made it salient in front of six Maitimos."

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"I've been busy!"

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"Sorry, why is this such a big deal?"

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"I don't want billions of demons learning that they can make chip Elves in the comfort of their own homes so the story is the Silmarils do backup - they do - and I'm using that for reembodiments - I'm not. Silmarils are also too smart to make correctly so it'll hold if everyone shuts up about it."

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Anaander nods seriously.

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"...the Silmarils didn't do that in my Arda."

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"They were powerful magical light sources that'd let Elves live outside Valinor even once they'd been exposed to its light?"

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"Yes."

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"And could've been used to fight the enemy, if your - mother, I guess - had lived?"

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"Maybe. She certainly thought so."

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"We don't have these at all. Perhaps usurping Mandos doesn't seem an urgent project."

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"I'd make you a dumb one to check out but never did get confirmation that dumb ones don't count for the oath so better not."

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"Oath?"

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"Did you not have this, my batch - Fëanor and all seven kids - swore an oath to, I forget the wording, yada yada go stab anybody who has one and won't give it back?"

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"Rirosseth had that. I fixed it for her and Lírnith."

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"That's really stupid and dangerous."

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"I know. It was - we did think he might try to use it against us but if that involved him not using them himself it'd be worth it."

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"Nope."

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He looks skeptical.

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"Were you assuming someone'll stop you? No one'll stop you."

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"...I could maybe fix it for you but it's the one with the love curse side effect."

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"That seems like a pretty bad tradeoff right now but I guess I'll let you know if it changes. - and I'll apologize to Findekáno for being annoyed with him for wanting to have created this instance of me from before I swore it."

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"If it changes that might be too late."

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"We could order up more Wishes to free people from binding oaths they've sworn. - this will seriously screw with your lawfulness but I guess none of you care."

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"I'd like to be slightly more lawful in the boring formal sense if only as a contingency plan for if all my grander ambitions than fixing individual trials fail, but yeah why would it matter to anyone with a different setup?"

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"Well, then, everyone except Belmarniss can make stupid oaths and Wish themselves free of them for as long as Cam'll provide the diamonds."

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"Do you want me to fill a warehouse? More efficient than asking me every time you want a bagful if it's a predictably ongoing commodity need."

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"- yes, I definitely do. Tell me when it's convenient."

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"If you have a warehouse handy now's fine. Since I appear to be between projects till I start designing your gate port."

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He gestures at an attendant. "Show him an empty storage facility right now."

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Can follows the attendant to fill up a facility with boxes of diamonds and its dust.

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"We should maybe have a secret department dedicated to hang-the-incentives resurrecting everyone with a bad afterlife," he says to Hemaka.

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"If we mostly grab drow or something we could skip worrying about the incentives."

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"Which drow? The babies are either babies or have families from the boneyard. The rest are. Y'know. Drow. Lots of them suck. What will you do with them?"

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"I'm not really clear on what all we have the capacity to do, here, but even if we just turn them into statues that leaves us in a better place later on than if they get themselves eaten in the Abyss."

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"Probably the purest good example of someone to rehabilitate is someone who was evil and if given a second chance will stop but someone who is evil and on track to stop existing entirely might also be worth it."

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"You could see if my sister is dead yet."

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"You didn't mention earlier."

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"I don't talk about her much."

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Pelape's everything isn't dead yet. She finds a picture. "Sofa."

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"Soviaula."

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He tosses her a crystal ball.

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She looks.

It's dark there.

"She's still at home."

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"We could set up a conditional resurrection, if you want."

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"That'd be nice. I haven't seen her in a few years so I can't vouch that confidently but she likes me and knows why I left and I can probably get her to behave."

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Nod.

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"If she's in danger should you get her sooner than that?"

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"If she dies first they won't be looking for her after that. And they might keep her. Long as I'm not around to compare to."

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Nod.

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"Can we do something about the bad afterlives?"

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"I'm not entirely sure what'd happen if some daeva decided to show up in the Abyss or Abaddon and terraform it for friendliness to departed souls. Might go fine until they happened to lose a fight. In Hell they'd encounter organized opposition."

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"Hold Person worked on Cam. That's not very rare magic, is it? Suppose if he were fighting back it wouldn't necessarily stop him."

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"It's not at all rare magic. You can train the ability to throw it off, though, or wear magic items for it."

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"I'm reminded of the time I just sort of let Dwarves keep shooting at me till they noticed it wasn't working."

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"Why were Dwarves shooting at you?"

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"Nothing personal. They just didn't like people showing up where they live mid-war."

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"They had signs. They've taken them down now and auctioned them off as souvenirs."

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"That's cute."

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"Whether Dwarves can be resurrected in some fashion is another thing you should check."

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"I will add it to the list."

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"Aulë'll be delighted if it can be done, and it wouldn't be very many of them, they're careful, dozens not hundreds."

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"Dozens a day? A year?"

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"Ever."

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"Okay. Well, we'd be happy to try."

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"Our Dwarves die of old age. Or did, they might be gone now."

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"Okay, I'm just going to pass around this list and everyone can write down anyone you want me to attempt to resurrect."

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Well. One of the kids decided to be a human. Also Annie had parents, far away and long ago.

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Mirelótë once looked at a memorial with all the dead Dwarves listed, here they are.

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Cor lost some folks in his planet's mess.

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"I had a twin brother but he's, y'know, probably fine, haven't been able to get a scry on him yet."

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Everyone dead Cam knows is doing okay one way or another except: "You probably can't do Maiar, right?"

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"What makes them different from other people -"

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"They don't have bodies per se. They have locations in which they can perform various operations of matter manipulation which can but doesn't always include operating a body."

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"I would not expect True Resurrection to do anything for that sort of being."

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"Don't think a Wish'd do it either?"

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"No idea. Might as well try it."

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"Diamonds going spare."

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“It’s great.”

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"I wish more things could be solved that easily."

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"A lot of people have died where I am from but I do not know their names!"

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“I do. I guess we can put some of them down as a test.”

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"Are your random genocide victims going to be comfortable here or are you thinking, like, your family and friends and stuff?"

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“People who died in accidents in the last couple of years. So they will be able to reintegrate straightforwardly.”

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"It might make sense to get your family and friends later."

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“They won’t be able to reintegrate at all, everyone they knew is dead and everything they knew is gone. I don’t think there’s much reason to bother.”

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"They could go somewhere else. And in this situation people being dead is fixable."

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“Sure. I just think we have billions of higher priorities.”

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"Maybe you won't add another few billion if your friends are around."

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“Well, they’re hardly going to still be my friends.”

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"Oh, pardon me, I forgot that people who no longer think highly of you are better off dead and that's why I was messily annihilated the other week."

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“It’s an easy thing to forget.”

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"You were messily annihilated?"

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"Sarcasm. I explained sarcasm."

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“I feel like the ability to resurrect people makes your friends’ opinions pretty reparable.”

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“Says the kid who has never in his life done anything that might make anyone think less of him.”

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“But if I did once by accident I wouldn’t immediately give up on them!”

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Do you have perspective on this -

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I'm kind of confused. I think she's - somewhere between 'relying on the fact there's no one alive she cares about for her bargaining position' - not with us, necessarily - and 'doesn't want to owe us a favor' and 'scared she won't care about them anymore'.

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Who else is she bargaining with? The Presger?

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Must be. I guess they did kill a lot of her friends to teach her a lesson a while ago.

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If she's interpreting them right.

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Yeah. I think she's right that her friends aren't a priority, anyway.

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Yeah, recent accidental death is probably good.

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"Are anyone's worlds likely to impose restrictions on who can be resurrected - lots of countries forbid resurrection of a person who was executed, for example -"

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"Well, we can't take anyone back until we've sorted that out. I don't expect we'll care if people resurrect them somewhere else?"

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"I'd imagine an outcry if they were resurrected somewhere else that either kept them in bad conditions or didn't have competent population governance."

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"- yes. We should probbably insist as a general principle that no one can have immigrants or resurrectees or conjured Amentan babies or anything until you've got laws existing signatories to our treaties have approved of."

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"We can accommodate anyone you can raise who died on our world."

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"We lost a ton of people but also our planet and are colonizing a continent on the Arda, but, like, we're not too dug in to relocate if there's a better idea. ...where magic works ideally but we already can't keep using it to cook dinner and are working on policy there so replacing its more essential functions seems doable."

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"How long does it take you to make a planet?" he asks Cam.

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"A few weeks from scratch, longer if you need the star new too, less if you want me to terraform an existing rock but that's less multitasking-friendly."

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"And we'll be able to pay others for it, once interdimensional transit is set up?"

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"Sure, if that includes transit somewhere summoning works. You can find hobbyists to get designs out of and anybody who'll work long-term and can fly a spaceship for the making."

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He is so happy.

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"So we probably want to go around testing all the universes for which magic works there, and what happens to people who are conceived and born and killed there, and then we can figure out where the spare planets go."

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"Wherever you want, lightleapers go to arbitrary destinations in five days."

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" - what, really? How does that work?"

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"I wasn't reading engineering papers."

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"I want to be a lightleaper."

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"I have read the engineering papers. I didn't understand them but maybe one of you two will."

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"I want to be a lightleaper VERY MUCH."

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"We'll find a way for you to be a lightleaper."

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"Awww."

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"- should we be worried -"

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"I would never hurt her. You can worry, if you'd like, about what will happen to the rest of the universe if anyone does hurt her."

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"She wouldn't want anything to happen to the rest of the universe. She'd want you to keep all the other people safe and get her back."

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"Yes."

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"But then people might think it's okay to hurt you because nothing bad will happen to them if they do."

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"Why would people want to hurt me?"

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"Some people are very horrible. They might think you would stop them from being horrible if they did not hurt you first."

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"Why do they want to be horrible?"

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"It gets them money, or power, or fame, or sex, or impresses other people or is easier than being good or they just think it's fun."

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"Those sound like things they can get without having to hurt anybody. Unless they are picky about kinds of fun. I'm not sure about that."

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"Well, usually it is easier to get power and money unethically than ethically. Because other people are trying very hard to do it, too, and if you're doing the same things as them and aren't particularly remarkable as a person then you won't do much better than them."

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"Hmmmmm.

I don't know how to solve this problem but it seems logically impossible to solve it by being horrible."

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"Logically impossible? Why's that?"

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"The problem is people being horrible! If anyone is horrible it is not solved."

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"It's a very very very big universe and we will not manage to make it one where no one is ever horrible."

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"I'm going to not be horrible anyway."

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"I know."

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"You should also not be horrible."

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"It is too late for that but I can avoid being more horrible."

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"Good!"

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"She said she can, not that she will."

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"It's still good because to do it she has to be able to."

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" - I guess that's true."

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"I wasn't sure she'd know how!"

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"She's so perfect," Anaander says happily to the room at large.

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"I'm actually sort of confused about why you like her though I acknowledge our general appeal!"

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"I have some idea of how much of a handicap she is working at and I am very very impressed. And the phrases she uses are delightful, and I don't know if we'll be able to convey useful concepts to the Presger but I think we can at least end up on the same page about which things they need? And she's happy about good things and sad about bad things without - playing a lot of games on top of that -"

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"Games?"

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"Usually people do lots of things with their emotions and expressions thereof to achieve their goals and it's very tiring and transparent and you don't do it."

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"I don't know how! But I like achieving things so maybe I will if I learn how."

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"Well it'll help you achieve things with other people but not with me because I don't like it."

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"Other things that should maybe be on our agenda right now: should we start systematically looking for more of us? Should we start looking for more worlds, in general, since apparently there are a lot more than we thought? Do we have any guesses on why we can't see the Ardas?"

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"We want more of us, I don't know how consistently we want yous..."

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"Eru thinks it's entertaining. Or Erus think, I suppose."

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"Looking for more worlds before having an approach to... approaching them... might be a mistake, gives us more to triage and hack at with what we have on hand, but I guess we could get lucky and land on somebody like Mirelótë's Valar early on and then thwack everything else on the list with that."

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"But we could also land on something really dangerous before we have the resources to handle it. I tentatively think knowing more universes will make evil mes behave better."

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Rirosseth nods.

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"Why?"

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"Cooperation is much more robust than being adversarial. Being adversarial is only a good idea when your enemies are known to you to have certain ranges of capabilities. If you know they can't hurt you you can go ahead and be adversarial, and if you know they'll try to hurt you no matter what then it does, but under all other circumstances it's probably going to get you destroyed, whereas being cooperative gives you options later. Anaander and Magic were both evil when they'd had absolute power for centuries and had no expectation this would change, and - not, obviously, attempting to excuse them in the slightest - after they had tried being cooperative first and had it fail to get them what they wanted. I think a version of them who learned that there were powerful entities they needed to negotiate with, and decided to be evil instead, would be much stupider than they were."

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Rubelite listens very intently to this and then nods.

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"That sounds about right to me though also I did a lot of evil things because of having previously seen fit to bindingly commit to them and that seems like a pattern to be careful of with - Maitimor - more generally."

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"Caramel to the teeth if I hear 'I swear', but what other precautions does this suggest?"

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"I mean there's no point to a commitment that hasn't been publicized, maybe we can just ask a couple of people who pay any attention to politics about notorious public commitments from their ruler."

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"Nobody was that specific about what was going on in Sirion, and I'm not sure how they'd've characterized it under calmer circumstances, so it might depend on where we ask."

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Nod.

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"So looking for additional uses - cautiously, looking for more worlds, probably also very cautiously until we're better resourced to solve their problems or at least to let them help us solve ours."

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"Does anyone have a world-searching procedure besides me, because there's reason to think most people trying mine die but we could see if we can hire Thuringwethil to do it. And my Arda can be reached from my planet - temporarily - and from the empty one."

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"Our dimensional transit spells require some knowledge of the destination."

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"If Eru gets done having fun with this my Valar might be able to get an upgrade out of him for it but no guarantee."

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"I have no reason to think most people who try mine don't die but we were going to check up on that and in principle they shouldn't die right away outright."

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"Do you expect Eru'll get done having fun?"

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"I don't know what updates to make to my previous belief that he was done having fun using live people as toys. Did he really not make any comment other than calling the place 'tasteless', Maitimo -"

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"He said: "I can see where she is! It's a bit tasteless. I didn't send her. I am sure she'll be glad she went. No, no, that's enough questions, you're all getting far too easy to startle. You need equanimity. Contentment and conviction." And then he left."

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"There you have it. I suppose I could try not to be glad I went. It does put an upper bound on how long we could be hedged out but the upper bound is probably something like a thousand years."

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"I'll be upset a lot sooner than that but we only asked about you, at the time."

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"Well, I'd be upset on your behalf but it's hard to know if that counts."

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"Why're you upset -"

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"The kids'll miss me."

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"Whereas Rúmil and I were waiting for faster than light travel."

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"Well, now you've got it."

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"We'll keep trying to figure out how to reach Ardas."

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"Is our Eru different or did she just, like... wander off?"

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"I don't know. There are some prophecies about the end of the world? Maybe she wandered off, maybe she's waiting for that, maybe she matured somewhat and contents herself hovering in the neonatal intensive care unit drinking tears, or something."

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"If you have to have an evil god it really shouldn't be an omnipotent one."

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"Well, he used to delegate it more."

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"The world Annie and I are from now isn't very Eru-flavored. It has bad things but they have obvious not-divine causes and nothing gets in the way of improving them."

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"I'm glad to hear that as far as it goes."

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"I'm curious whether it's Eru-flavored compared to other no-magic societies of its tech level - ours, or Cam's Earth, or any place Anaander knows of -"

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"Annie, what year is it?"

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"2005."

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"Has it got, like, Earth stuff - World War II, Diet Coke, penguins, denim, Paraguay, Buddhism, hamburgers, the Pacific Ocean, one moon with good eclipses, the United Nations, malaria, bad airplane food, Ferris wheels, Chinese Communism, Nobel Prizes, rubber ducks, Wikipedia, feral pigeons..."

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"Yes. The continents match my original also for some reason, or are close enough that they seem familiar if I'm near a relief globe."

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"- are the languages familiar - I guess you wouldn't be able to tell -"

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"Norwegian is structually similar to what I grew up speaking and is from the right place but they aren't mutually intelligible. I don't remember enough samples of languages from elsewhere on my original to have tried to make more matches, it was a long time ago."

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"Huh."

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"When I encountered the globe I realized I'd never been near a relief map of Arda and thought maybe every planet would have them the same for some reason but now I don't know."

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"Our continent is not plural."

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"We've got several -" He waves for someone to get a map. 

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"Neither the space Valinor nor the space Endorë resembles my world or Earth," she reports.

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"Now I wonder if the cities are alike at all - here's Tirion seen from a helicopter, Rirosseth -"

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" - not especially." Here's hers. It's got big white circular walls around the whole city, which her Tirion doesn't, and beyond that there are not a lot of  obvious similarities in design besides that they are both Noldorin cities.

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"Huh. It didn't even look like that before we had helicopters."

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"That's very weird."

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"I don't know about very, but I was expecting reminiscent street layouts or something."

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"Maybe the terrain or available materials were importantly different, or the Elves picked up different skills on the journey over from Endorë."

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"And there were more of us."

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"Oh, yeah, that might change a lot all by itself."

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"I think there's an explore/exploit tension here, where you can be focusing energy and investment on your portal to Amenta and trading with them and you can be focusing energy and investment on finding more places but if you try to do both you might wind up being scattered and ineffectual. I guess you could be planning on making the Amentans do all the work, they seem really into the concept."

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"I think I am mostly going to focus on making sure the interdimensional transit hub is supplied with local resources and then improving things with the technology. If no else wants to be the driver of the search for more places then I guess it waits."

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"I mean, the spellcasting has to be locally sourced for a while even if we can make wizards out of a billion Amentans. There's not exactly a glut of it and not everybody can say 'hey, Abadar, how about extra levels to cope with that'."

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"Do you think we should do something more complicated than let people hire it?"

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"Not necessarily but perhaps. - you know what finding a ton of worlds is good for? Dangerous tasks for Amentan wizards in their billions. ...Cam, I want my number seventeen blue notebook and Prestidigitation Vivisected for Pelape. And anyone else best served by learning wizardry now."

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"Vivisected?"

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"We are a gruesome people."

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Books appear for Pelape and Annie.

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"I can try to learn to be a wizard."

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"You're less likely to specifically benefit from my notes but I still recommend the textbook."

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"I don't have particularly good notes for you, I didn't specialize there."

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"Well, no. But we should know whether my kind of Elf can learn it and if we can we should know whether they fork with the ability and so I ought to give it a try."

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"I'm also happy to."

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"Sorry, I had you down as 'already has some kind of project' but maybe you stopped having one when I was distracted." Books for chip Elves.

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"Same, except the question of interest is whether the ability shares across bodies."

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"Do we have consensus on letting Anaander be a million wizards?"

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"I have a couple of concerns though honestly a low-level wizard can't do that much more murder than a civilian with a weapon and impunity."

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"A high-level wizard, though?"

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"A million high-level wizards would be pretty bad news."

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"And if she can treat a body as expendable she can be pretty efficient about risk-seeking."

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"I vote no though I observe it'll be real hard to keep from her in the long term."

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"Should I be wizards?"

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"think so."

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"We need to be very sure the Presger can't get it out of you."

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"It can't!"

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"How do you know?"

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"It tried and I was very mad at it but it didn't work."

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"And you're sure it won't get better at trying?"

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"I was very, very mad. I do not think it will try again."

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Rubelite accepts her copies of the books.

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"Great. So you can all learn some magic, and we'll try the resurrections."

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"...I'll take some books too, I might drop it when I can go back to my people but I'm not doing much right now."

The lot of them settle in to learn wizardry.

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Belmarniss answers clarifying questions, mostly from Rubelite.

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Some people scry for the long-lost Elves and Dwarves. Most of these scries fail. One of them does not.

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"Either he learned to turn invisible or he's dead, but maybe Cam can give him a body? I don't know if that would work for the magic kind."

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"Mandos does it. I guess maybe he's doing something far more complicated than it sounds like."

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"Mandos can probably tell precisely where the soul is if nothing else."

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"Right in the middle of the scry and it's not panning around so he isn't in the habit of drifting if they can do that."

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"I'd have to be there to do it."

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"How long would it take you? I can hold a temporary gate open for less than two minutes."

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"Less than that but I don't know how long the Elf'd take to hermit crab his way into the body. Let alone walk here."

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Nod. "What's the surrounding world like?"

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Annie holds up the crystal ball. "It's pretty. Grass and trees and stuff. Doesn't guarantee the air's breathable, though, they're not recognizable kinds of grass and trees."

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"There's a spell for that. I guess someone would need to stand by to cast it on him once he picks up the body."

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"Should we try it now?"

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"I want to know more about the world before we send people through to it, especially if someone's going to have to stay to take the Elf back once he's recovered."

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"Fair. I could see if 'alt' is a conjurable parameter and check the place for them." His hands fill with plastic models - tiny Belmarniss, then a tiny person who looks just like Annie, then a blue quadruped. "...you're a centaur in this one."

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" - huh. Okay. You're a human, though?"

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"Looks just like Annie, yeah. Blue jeans and all."

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"Then maybe we should get her and learn from there about how safe it is to go pick up the Elf."

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"If the plants aren't recognizable there, and she's wearing Earth clothes and such, she might not know."

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"And he might, if she doesn't, but he's also likelier to be dangerous. Seems harmless to message her and ask."

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Belmarniss looks for her (in case it's dark there). It's not; she's in an office on the phone with someone.

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"Input on the Sending?"

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"'do you happen to know any blue centaur aliens?'"

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"Same thing you told Annie about replies."

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She writes a bit and consults with Annie on the languages the new one's paperwork are written in to fiddle with wordcount, and settle on: "Alternate universe yous accumulating elseplane with others. We can read written responses; outgoing messages more difficult. Seek information on: blue centaur aliens, desirability of transport." for a higher level caster than Belmarniss to Send through the ball.

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New one drops her phone, picks it up, hastily ends the call, and

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turns into someone else!

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" - detect magic -"

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Not a speck.

She's just sitting there, to all appearances.

<Hey, Finleran, a mysterious voice in my head wants to know if I want to come hang out with a bunch of alternate universe versions of me 'and others' and it's also curious about 'blue centaur aliens', any guesses what the fuck?>

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<Thought-speech or something else?>

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<Something else. Sounded like my own voice and spoke Chinese.>

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<I do not have any guesses.>

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<Said it could receive written responses.>

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<It seems better to be in communications than not, I would think?>

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<That's my thought too but do you suppose I should disclaim blue centaur related knowledge or anything?>

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<Maybe you could ask why they want blue centaur related information? But there's not much gained hiding it, they'll find it easily enough, talking to anyone else on the planet...>

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<Said "outgoing messages more difficult" so I don't know if they'll clarify or what their other sources might be. Guess I can trot out the common knowledge. Thanks.>

She writes, in Chinese. The blue centaur aliens are called 谙哒来. They're allies and friends of Earth. I'm potentially interested in visiting but very busy and if it is possible to arrange might prefer to send a representative. If operating in this galaxy please beware Yeerks, brain parasites which control their hosts.

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Cam conjures this when Belmarniss thinks she looks done. He reads it aloud.

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"Brain parasites!"

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"You sound way too happy about that."

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"It's very bad! I'm very against it."

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"Then why did he think you sounded happy?"

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"Well, he might just be very dense. Sometimes people are."

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...she looks at the potentially dense Maitimo.

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"I think you should ask her what else might be going on."

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She looks back at Anaander. "Figuring out people things is a lot of work," she remarks.

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"It gets easier with practice. Uh, another explanation might be that I used a voice people usually use when they're happy."

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"Why did you do that?"

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"Because brain parasites are interesting and I like it when things are interesting, even if they are bad and we ought to stop them as soon as possible."

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"Two minutes of a gate in her office is how magically expensive?" wonders Pelape.

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"It's a ninth level spell. I can do it once today; the other things I can do with ninth level spell slots in general are true resurrections - which are what they sound like - and Miracle, which is where I ask Abadar for a favor of approximately the scope of Gate or True Resurrection, so in general that's what we're trading off against, but I did prepare Gate today so the only thing we're actually trading off against today is a different gate somewhere else, such as Cam's world."

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"The Sending's a lot cheaper than that even if we actually want to get two minutes of conversation's worth of information through to her," Belmarniss tells Pelape.

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"She didn't say exactly how the brain parasites get you except that you have to be in the same galaxy, so let's not go there."

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"She stopped writing, and doesn't have Annie's 'expect uncontrollable transit' excuse, I think she has some reason to think we might be hostile. Or, I suppose, infested with brain parasites, since that's something she's encountered before."

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"If they're at war it'd make sense for them to be cautious about weird communications from strangers."

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"I don't think she's - stressed out in the right way to be actively at war right now."

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"If the centaur aliens are friendly we could try the Maitimo and see if they have more to say."

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Grassy field somewhere.

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They consult.

 

"Is he going to be able to write? I don't see easy access to writing implements anywhere."

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"...he doesn't have a mouth, so maybe he can do sign language and we'll be able to see through the scry? Does the magic work on that?"

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"Mine does if the spells don't."

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So the message that is decided on is: "alternate universe you working on interdimensional cooperation. can observe you and read signed languages, or writing. indicate a good way to communicate further."

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He startles, slightly, on the grass, then signs:

Contact Imperatrix of Earth.

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"Maybe that is the US."

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"I'm gonna make the executive decision that we are Bells."

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"Maybe that is the BELL."

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"Man, if doing cool things weren't illegal I would be so cool."

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Pat pat.

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"Did it say 'imperatrix' anywhere on her paperwork?"

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"I don't know if we can rely on the translations lining up closely enough. She does have a title you could translate that way."

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"He's being observed."

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"Yeah. He didn't ask if we could get him out, though."

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"Well, sometimes if you're being observed that's not a smart thing to suggest. You can read blue centaur body language? Confidently on the first try?"

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"He kept it to four words and barely moved his hands and didn't provide lots of information it'd be useful to have and is now moving exactly like before the message arrived."

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"I was just going off how little he moved and how little he said."

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"Is there anything intermediate in bandwidth between Sending and Gate?"

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"A crystal ball with Telepathy?"

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"Do you have one of those?"

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"Not to hand but I'm sure there's one to be had. Telepathy's communicative, it only reads what's directed at the recipient."

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"Else Belmarniss would've twitched. Though it might spook the Imperatrix, if she's that."

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"I think it's worth spooking her."

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"Yeah. Especially with brain parasites about complicating things."

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"We'll have to designate one person to talk to her, that way."

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"If Rirosseth does it she can relay to and from everyone."

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"Everyone who understands how to interact with osanwë, at least."

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"Can you check if those of us new to it have it down?"

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"Sure, tell me when."

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"When."

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"When!"

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"When."

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"When."

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All of them have in fact mastered osanwë though some of their metaphors leave the fact of their existence or some senses public. She explains how to avoid this.

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They correct for this. "Does not to hand mean you don't own one or there isn't one in your pocket?"

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"I don't know myself to own one but they have enough military applications I'd be surprised if I don't; I've asked for it."

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"Rirosseth, will you be able to make it reasonably intuitive when you're relaying who's saying all the things?"

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"Yeah, I can relay them with the information of who's saying things."

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"Confirm she's the Imperatrix, if so tell her the Maitimo sent us her way... what time limit are we looking at?"

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"Ten minutes each scry, but if she's fine with us doing it again from there then it won't matter that it gets harder to do repeatedly."

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"She might be suspicious of most ways of describing intentionally allowing a scry even if she's fine with talking so watch it."

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"What does she have to do to intentionally allow a scry?"

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"Some spells you can, like, resist by force of will, and the sensation of - iiiit's not going to be useful to any of you if I say it's like dropping spell resistance, is it - well, it's just a little conspicuous that it's a vulnerable mental action?"

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"You could send it to me. I won't be able to send it to her, though, assuming the crystal ball with telepathy isn't just letting me use my native telepathy."

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"It doesn't, no."

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"Well, we can decide whether to bring it up with her depending how the conversation is going."

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"Letting somebody scry you or something is like -" She puts it on the correct side of her metaphor. Not like taking off your clothes, like taking someone's hand and sticking it under your clothes for them.

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She squeezes Annie's hand and nods.

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A crystal ball with telepathy is found.

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So she takes Cam's letter and Annie's hand and fixes the new Bell in her mind and looks for her.

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Looks like a Bell again, reading something on her computer.

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Got her, what do we want to say?

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"We have located a higher bandwidth form of communication and can both receive voluntary-only replies in this format and duplicate physical materials on our end for reference if you point us to same. There are seven of us here who are versions of you in personality and other details, and seven likewise versions of one of the 谙哒来 whose name we don't know but he told us to talk to the Imperatrix. Are you the Imperatrix?"

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She relays this.

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The new Bell blinks. ...yes, I am.

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"We apologize for the terse original message; that format limits wordcount -"

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"- this one instead limits time but can be repeated if you want to keep talking to us, but requires not resisting the magic letting us look at and talk to you -"

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"- but we expect the potential available in having seven of yourself to coordinate with and more worlds than that to investigate is worth the tradeoff. The other template of person accumulating here we're calling 'Maitimos' though names may be more or less similar, they're good at people and many of us knew ours in some capacity before arriving; do you have a guess who yours is to you?"

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...Matirin, maybe? That's all he told you?

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"We were using the spying-and-wordcount-limited option with him. He replied in sign language but we think he's being observed; he kept it to a few words and didn't seem to want to react visibly."

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It's probably Matirin. He was here during the war. Against the Yeerks, which I mentioned, the brain parasites. We were both involved in that. The rest of his people took him offplanet once they got here but some Andalites still live on Earth.

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Where is he now? Is it safe to reach out to him with a setup like this, to communicate with him?

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I'm not sure what planet. This should be safe.

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The Maitimos make expressive faces at each other. 

 

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Are there procedures for identifying people affected by brain parasites? 

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If you have impolite mindreading that'll do it. An MRI will do it. Two of them don't fit at once so if somebody morphs one and can't go in the ear you know. Every three days a Yeerk has to come out to feed in a special pool bombarded with special radiation so if you stalk someone that long you know. The imitation and control is nearly always perfect but can slip for a second or two if the host acts suddenly and the Yeerk is distracted. Uh, the Yeerks living on the moon, in pools marked "Amicus Terra" in Europe, and in humans wearing locked indicator bracelets, are friendly - they aren't a monolith - but any outside our system, or hiding on Earth, or in any ships in the system that aren't on Luna, should be presumed hostile.

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"...can you name one human with and one human without a Yeerk, if there's some who have friendly ones, so we can test a procedure for it?"

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Josefa Iglesia, my assistant Yue-Yue?

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Cam checks. He gets one Yeerk. "Josefa has one?"

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Yes, she hosts Ristrell who runs the moon polity of Yeerks. Consensually.

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What's the overall state of the Yeerk war?

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We got them off Earth. Um, which we did by irradiating the entire planet and then handing out morph to try to reduce the impact of all the cancer. Most Yeerks are much more vulnerable to radiation than Earth life but there's a family of them that can cope so there was some mop-up after that and that's also who's on planetside Amicus Terra. Outside the Solar system the Andalites are continuing to fight them, they continue to have any humans they got out of the system and also all the Hork-Bajir, Taxxons, and Gedds minus the handful that were on Ristrell's ship when she took it over. Earth'll be well positioned to help in not too long, we're getting into position techwise to have our own military presence in space. For the moment there's no action here though.

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Does your universe have any magic, as far as you know?

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I am not an engineer but understand it all to be a matter of high technology or alien biology as the case may be, not magic.

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"If you're too busy to visit who would you send?"

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Uh, Matirin might also be too busy but possibly Finleran.

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"Is that Matirin's husband or boyfriend, by any chance?"

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...yes? How did you know that, it's not public information.

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The alternate universe versions of people thing. We'd like to meet him, is he going to be safe in an Earthlike sort of environment?

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Yes. Should I warn him you're going to talk to him? Do you have alternate versions of everybody?

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Matirin seems to repeat with his family. You have siblings sometimes but not always, never kids yet...

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I have a twin sister and no kids.

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"What kinds of things are you busy with, don't you have a way to take days off if you're sick or something -"

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If I'm sick I morph it away. I take breaks but not unscheduled long ones. I guess you could come here if you also have cures for cancer.

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"If you think Finleran's a suitable representative we can talk to him at least until we can get on your calendar, I think."

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I can delegate the Malawi Phase 4 logistics meeting, that was going to be all afternoon tomorrow but Fencan can handle it. None of you are busy?

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"Oh, some of us are very busy but we didn't get a choice about showing up or not, an unexplained phenomenon collected six pairs of us to the world of a seventh and we're still working out how to get everybody home without losing salient opportunities."

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Sounds inconvenient. Okay, I'm going to clear everything from lunch to dinner tomorrow. It's currently eight p.m. Beijing time. Anything else you can't get from Finleran?

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"Can we talk to your sister?"

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Don't interrupt her on stage or anything but I'll let her know and she'll probably check the email when she wakes up in four or five hours.

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What's her name?

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Alexandra Swan, goes by Andi.

You must be one of Matirin.

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yes but we also need the name for the magic we'll use to reach out to her.

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I guess that makes sense. Anything else before I have my next meeting?

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"Can Finleran get ahold of you if anything that hasn't come up yet seems urgent when we talk to him?"

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He and Andi and also Matirin's brother Cayaldwin all have priority interrupt privileges.

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"Which one is Cayaldwin?"

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The engineer? Is that sufficient identification?

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"Yes."

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We'll talk to you tomorrow, then, unless something comes up sooner.

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Thanks for calling.

She emails Andi, and Finleran too.

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"There's something she's not saying about Matirin but I don't think it's that he's secretly evil. - want to check everyone for brain parasites, Cam -"

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"Have been as she mentions people, came up empty except for Josefa and Ristrell."

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"I guess Finleran is a good person to ask about what's up with Matirin."

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"After a few minutes for the email to go through it sounds like we can go ahead and do that."

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"You want to -"

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"Yeah." He looks for Finleran.

"Looks just like the other one to me."

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"I can see some differences. Cam, do you want to make me some stuff of his, to make the scry with the telepathy ball work better?"

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"Does that work? What do centuars even own, they don't seem to wear clothes or anything. Maybe he has a computer." Computer.

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"I'm not sure if it works but it can't hurt."

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Cam hands it to her.

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And they can repeat the process to reach Finleran.

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"Hello, we're seven alternate versions of the Imperatrix and also seven of we think but aren't a hundred percent confident of Matirin who have been all swept together for a mostly nonconsensual conference of ourselves and have decided to exacerbate the matter, using local magic to address you. What is up with Matirin, she did not seem to be telling us everything - I guess you don't have to answer that either if there's some very good reason -"

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< - hi. Matirin left Earth at the request of the Andalite high command, he was needed to lead operations elsewhere in the war against the Yeerks. I am sure there's a lot she is not telling you on that front, can you prove the alternate versions thing?>

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"Uh - Hemaka, do you have anything handy you'd expect to hold for a blue centaur alien, you're the only one of him we've got around -"

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" - I'm not sure. I like adrenaline sports? I have eight younger siblings, three of them full siblings. When I was fourteen I had my arm cut off for a week because I got in an argument about whether the criminal penalties for stealing were proportionate. I can't always tell if my husband's lying to me but I can always tell when he's lying to himself, which is more useful. His father doesn't like me."

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"Findekáno has only three siblings - Maitimo, you should meet his, check which ones - and is good at blessing design which is a sort of computer programming for the chips we run our minds on, and, uh, has never had any limbs removed because that's not a thing we do... Fëanáro has mellowed somewhat towards him over time but it's still a matter of benign neglect..."

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"My father's never said anything against Kan except that it's a shame earlier life choices of mine made me unlikely to date green. He has two siblings."

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"Three siblings. My mother abandoned her to die, once, so there's that."

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<...say more about that?>

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Oh no. Uh, our world had an evil god, he spent a long time arranging for my people to be on the brink of a civil war and then killed the King and stole some important magic stuff and fled, we followed him, there were some disputes over the succession, there was a bloody fight over the ships we needed to reach the other continent, my cousin helped us with that fight and was betrayed, afterwards, to learn we'd been the ones to start it - she kept following us - there weren't enough ships to take everyone to the other continent. My mother arranged for her loyalists to go first. When she reached the other side, she burned the ships. They were stranded with no way to follow us except crossing the northern ice, which took them years, lots of people died.

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<That's very interesting.>

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I'm so sorry. 

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<Matirin didn't know.>

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Of course not. I - I tried to stop her. It didn't work.

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<Did you win your war?>

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Not really. It's a long story.

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"I got a dud of a Maitimo so I don't know if describing the Findekáno I know will be helpful at all."

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<I think this is very interesting but it doesn't incline me to share much secret information about the war. Maybe if you end up participating in it?>

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"Brain parasites sound very bad but this is sort of what we were worrying about when considering whether to look for more worlds, winding up with more problems than we have tools. Is there anything that's more costly in material objects or breaking the laws of physics than in logistics effort or design labor that you guys need?"

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"We could also just talk to Matirin, if the crystal ball doesn't run down when we contact cooperative people we can always circle back."

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<The Andalite high command could almost certainly use more ships. You could help us gear up factories faster? But it's not an emergency, we are at present winning the war.>

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"If we get back to you after talking to Matirin there's a way to resist contact we'd be obliged if you'd not do so we can stay on the same page about whatever goes on."

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<All right.>

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Belmarniss almost says something and then doesn't.

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And she lets the blue centaur alien fade. 

"Maybe all they weren't saying is that Matirin's on an important mission?"

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"...standing in a field?"

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"She said telepathying him is safe. She wouldn't have said that without caveat if he were doing something sensitive unless blue centaurs have the equivalent of a lot of attention blessings."

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 - nod.

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"Finleran stopped typing on his computer when we contacted him."

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"So either she knows a lot about what he's doing and knows that at least right now it's standing in a field, or she doesn't know much and is being cagey instead of admitting that for unclear reasons, and Finleran's consistent there."

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"Probably we still want to contact him but I don't like it."

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"Why not?"

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"Someone's clearly lying about something and I don't like going around striking up conversations when you know there's important missing information but not why you don't have it."

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"...we don't have it because their world has brain parasites that are really hard to tell apart from the genuine article and they're accustomed to protocols that take that into account."

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"...probably."

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"I think that's a pretty good reason, even if it's slightly annoying to interface with!"

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Nod. "So, Matirin again?"

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"I think so."

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They can try him again. 

 

It takes a couple of tries.

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But eventually they can get it to work. 

 

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"Hello again, we got a better form of interdimensional communication but it does have a time limit and if we run it out and you want to let us talk to you more you have to allow it to work. We talked to the Imperatrix and she said it was safe to address you like this since we can get replies in telepathic format instead of needing you to sign or write."

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<Can you hear this?>

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"Yeah, some of you on this end are telepathic and one of those is bouncing what she gets through the spell to the rest of us and vice-versa."

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"I'm Mirelóte Ambela, the rest of us who are similar to the Imperatrix are Belmarniss, Cam, Cor, Pelape, Annie, and Rubelite. We're given to understand that you're Matirin and an alt of - respectively by universe of either origin or waypoint - Maitimo, Khemet, also Maitimo, also Maitimo, Aitim, Rirosseth, and Anaander who is also named Maitimo but at least has a different name available."

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<I didn't know there were other universes at all. The Imperatrix explained about Yeerks?>

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"She mentioned, we expect that's at least some of why she defaults pretty cagey. She didn't give her name but we figure it has 'bel' in it somewhere."

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<Isabella.>

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"Swan?"

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<Yes.>

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"So, uh, what are... you up to."

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<...I am not really busy at the moment. I'm happy to answer your questions.>

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"...except for that one?"

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"We currently have lots of ways to small-scale break the laws of physics and I can make arbitrary material objects. We don't have all the logistics handling that would let these powers be most efficiently used. Ideas?"

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<Could you make bodies for Yeerks? I don't think they'd prefer it but it might be acceptable.>

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"Uh, yeah, that sounds doable."

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<That'd be helpful. Ships are helpful, obviously. The presence of allies who will get annoyed about chemical and biological warfare is potentially helpful, though you want to be cautious about - incentivizing something better instead of just incentivizing loud condemnation of all the front-line commanders -"

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"Is there a lot of that going on, Isabella - she doesn't go by Bella? If I were a girl I'd go by Bella, I think - she just mentioned irradiating the planet."

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<We were sent with Earth with instructions to ensure that its populace not fall into Yeerk hands if we couldn't save them, and with the means to effect that in a few different ways. We managed to find one that was relatively safe for the local populace but a lot of backup options weren't. On some other planets commanders have resorted to killing nearly all of the locals once the war looked hopeless.>

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"Is that a particularly imminent threat or just one it'd be good to have groundwork for set up in case? Finleran said you were winning."

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<Finleran probably has more timely information about the strategic situation than I do. We are winning. Earth was a big deal.>

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"It's weird that you can make spaceships," Rubelite tells Cam.

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"I mean, I don't make spaceships that are much like you."

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"They will be MORE like me when I am a LIGHTLEAPER."

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"Anyway, it's like, kind of high opportunity cost but still very much doable for us to visit your world or transport people from it, if that would be useful. Are you never in a position to write a letter, because that's the way you can get our attention albeit asynchronously if you want it when we aren't looking."

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<On paper?>

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"Any physical medium. You can destroy it afterwards, I can copy objects that no longer exist as long as they did for any length of time. I can also do format conversion if typing works for you, even if our computers don't match, but I can't naively decrypt, though that only comes into play if it's never set to recorded form decrypted."

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<I do not have access to external computers but I can store text files on my translation chip.>

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"That'll do."

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"Why don't you have access to external computers?"

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<This is a military installation and access to computers is restricted.>

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"It looks like a park. Andalite military installations look like parks?"

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<When they have affordance to, yes. We do poorly without open spaces.>

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"Is there a generally accessible summary of the war and everyone's capabilities, or something?"

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<Oh! Sure.> So he can explain how the Andalites encountered the Yeerks and how they became a spacefaring civilization and how they started conquering other peoples and how the war reached Earth and what happened on Earth and what fronts there were in the war last he heard and what sorts of weaponry and starships everyone has.

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"So the way to get from here to there is via a spell called Gate, which is about one resurrection's worth of opportunity cost and can't be repeated too many times a day but can be repeated indefinitely given those constraints, goes point to point, can filter for certain magically-simple conditions but I'm not actually confident given the shapeshifting going around that 'is in fact a Yeerk' qualifies as a magically simple condition, we know of a kind of spaceship that goes point to point anywhere no range limit in five days, we're working on getting access to more worlds that are currently not obviously in range of the gate spell and when we've done that Mirelótë brings friendly gods to the table, and there are lots of littler spells and the magic items made therewith to be had but allocating lots of little things is logistically hairy and all of the things I just mentioned come from different places with their own problems and there are even more worlds with even more of their own problems except Mirelótë's world which is perfect."

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<Resurrection? You can resurrect people?>

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"Some kinds of people."

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<Our kind of people?>

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"Haven't tried it. Who's dead?"

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<Everyone who lived on - a large part of Earth.>

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"It doesn't scale that well but it could conceivably get to do that if some especially big nasty problems in this world - well, set of them - were solved, specifically the reason it's limited use is that various gods who suck various amounts are doing a balance of power thing with how much magic they get to give out and it's not obvious what would happen if the ones who suck less stopped having to appease the ones who suck more."

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"If you happen to be the right sort of cyborg I have a fix that scales, ish."

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<The right sort of cyborg?>

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"Mirelótë's species is a kind of cyborg that I can re-embody."

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<I would be surprised if either Andalites or humans counted but of course it'd be great if you were to try.>

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"What manner of digital mind backup should I be copying?"

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<We have interface chips installed. You can use them as supplemental memory. They're not full backups.>

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"Then it's not going to work and trying might have bad results."

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<All right. I guess we'll eagerly await other forms of resurrection getting more scalable.>

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"It's on the to-do list. Except for Mirelótë's world which is perfect everybody has lots of dead people. Mirelótë's world apparently has, uh, a few dozen ever."

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"They're not less dead just because there are fewer of them."

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"If anything it's probably much less complicated to bring them back and we can more confidently expect it to go well without any additional supervision. But we can't reach our world now anyway. Are there dead people you know, Matirin -"

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<Nearly all the people I knew before the war are dead. And Bella's mother lived in the part of Earth that we lost.>

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"Which part of Earth was that -"

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<The southeastern seaboard of the United States. And Cuba.>

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"...ouch."

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"What happened?"

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<The Yeerks did it when it started to look like taking the planet by secrecy wasn't going to work. Blamed it on us, though not very credibly. There was a while where it was unclear if there was a compromise that both sides considered an improvement on 'destroy the world'.>

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"Well. Sounds like you found something."

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<We got very lucky, really, that Ristrell was positioned to do what she did. But we saved the planet. Eighty million people later.>

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"Bella mentioned Ristrell but only as an example of a Yeerk with a consenting host when we were testing whether Cam can check for whether a person has a Yeerk in them or not. - he can. And said she runs the polity on the moon, but not a lot of detail."

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<There was a last-ditch attempt to infiltrate the Yeerk ships in orbit because otherwise the planet was plainly going to get destroyed sooner or later. It failed. But it gave her the opening to stage a coup on behalf of a Yeerk faction that was willing to work with humans and with Andalites to arrange for Yeerks to get consenting hosts. I don't know if there are alternate universe versions of her but we're very much indebted to her and she figured out how to have a cooperative orientation towards people who were ...not really giving her a lot to cooperate with.>

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"Alt is a conjurable parameter -" Cam holds out his hands. "- and I'm not getting anything, but that probably only quantifies over worlds we already know about."

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<Too bad. Do you know any more than you said about how alts happen and who tends to have them?>

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"Not much more, really."

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"In addition to us, Maitimos, our families a ways out for those of us who are not spaceships but with some variance in number of siblings - for us, not you - there have been a couple we've noticed. Aitim identified Khemet's fourthborn brother Merenre's wife Ismat as an alt of her counterpart Isama from his world, Amenta, and also has an alt of Rabiah, one of secondborn Masaharta's - harem - who in Amenta is married to Makel. My Maitimo identified one of Khemet's wives Laila as his assistant Larya. This seems like a high concentration to find by casually rummaging around nearby but I don't know what general patterns to expect; it's possible that people with alts accrete around other people with alts somehow and if we visited a random village no one there would have any."

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<Does my world have alts of any of those people?>

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"Do you want me to count dead people?"

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<Sure, I still might know them and could go off that.>

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"You have... a dead Rabiah, looks like she died young and either at a renaissance faire or quite a while ago... and a live Andalite Ismat... no Larya."

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<Huh. What's the name of the Andalite one ->

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"Do Andalites have birth certificates or universal ID or anything?"

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<Everyone's birth is registered, yes.>

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"And how do we derive a pronunciation of a written name, you don't... have mouths..."

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<The thing you're doing on your end involves having a pronunciation in mind? Uh, you could describe the characters, I guess.>

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"I don't actually know how translation magic handles that, where did how Bella pronounces your name come from - anyway here it is, first character in the name is a vertical line with -" He describes the name of an Ismea Carastul-Harwan.

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<I have heard of her, runs a successful lighting company. I haven't met her. That's interesting.>

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Two tiny Dwarves appear in Cam's hand. "- and both magic Ardas have them too, neat."

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" - we do? What are their names there -"

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"Perhaps you could tell me what written material you would expect a name to appear on for a Dwarf in your world!"

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"Contracts they'd signed, probably?"

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"Aitim and/or Khemet any opinions on whether we want Magic able to track one of these down?"

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"She has a good head on her shoulders? He could presumably still ruin her life in a fit of spite if he wanted to."

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"I don't want to do that."

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"He might not be able to, not with Dwarves, not if she's rich."

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Cam looks. "Isun."

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"Thank you.'

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"Do I have one?"

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"No, I was checking everybody, this is it for worlds we know about now."

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"Mine is presumably dead?"

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"Lemme double-check. ...yes, but this is a very lively posture for a dead person, the dead Rabiah had some blood on her."

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"Wait a second are you actually -"

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"They're mostly plastic but I know what substitutions to make in organics so they look informative, calm down."

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"Lively for a dead person meaning - there's an afterlife? Or just that she was struck down in the middle of something?"

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"It could be either, if she died very abruptly while standing up and making a gesture." He offers Rirosseth the model.

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She studies it, puzzled.

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<I think you had probably better not get in touch with mine until you've talked with the Imperatrix, she might have some priorities for how Andalite command learns of interdimensional allies.>

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"Okay. I don't think somebody who makes lightbulbs is strategically important, anyway."

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<I wouldn't expect so but at some point it might be useful to have people with freedom of movement on the Andalite home planet. Depending on what you decide to do.>

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"I think he got arrested," says Rubelite.

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"What makes you say that?" She sounds very proud.

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"It fits, but I had other guesses till the freedom of movement part."

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"I want to give you a hug, do you know if you like hugs in this body?"

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"I do not know if I like other people doing it! The Presger does not hug."

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"I bet it doesn't."

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"Rubelite is the us who is a spaceship. Anaander is her you and a genocidal galactic empress hive mind."

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<Things could very easily have turned out such that worse could be said about me, but - is that a good person to have on your interdimensional outreach team?>

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"The other mes are kind of dense, so it's useful to have one around who's not."

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"Nobody asked for the ones who suck, it just happened."

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<I see.>

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"So what were you arrested for."

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<Actions on Earth not in keeping with Andalite law for contact with other intelligent civilizations. Plus going in the first place, which we did against orders.>

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"And this is a secret because -"

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<I was very popular on Earth, it'd damage relations. It'll probably be fine in a few more years once people've mostly moved on and the alliance has surer foundations. Also I sort of put the Imperatrix in charge and we want her to be a fact of the universe before anyone unravels how she ended up there.>

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"So we shouldn't magically bust you out of prison?"

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<I am not sure.>

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"Those temporary gates, can you close them after less than two minutes if you want?"

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"Yes."

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"So we can get you out whenever, aforementioned opportunity cost."

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<Once you've talked with the Imperatrix about what kind of relationships you want to have with the Andalites, whether to break me out will probably follow from that.>

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"Does your world have an afterlife?"

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<I have no reason to think so. Why?>

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"In mine it'd be one of the constraints on breaking someone out of prison."

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"Oh, yeah, can you in fact do that? Is it okay if it's somebody else's laws?"

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"I mean, it's not going to knock me into the Maelstrom as a one-off but it's not something to take lightly, especially if there's some passing legitimacy to the original arrest, I can kind of see why a country would sanction its soldiers for irradiating planets and giving everyone cancer even if they were doing it for the greater good -"

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<The problem was actually distributing the cure for the cancer, after the Yeerks there were rules imposed about sharing military technology with other species.>

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" - ah."

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"I guessed that!"

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<You guessed the part about the cure for cancer particularly?>

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"Morph is not an Earth Thing at this time because she wears the same kind of pants so it is probably an alien thing and you would have been allowed to destroy the planet since Yeerks would not have wanted that by themselves so it was not that you got in trouble for killing people and when you met the Yeerks they learned to have spaceships and then did bad things so then you made a rule! ...I think that makes less sense when I say it."

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<That's correct. I think.>

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"Does that constitute an arrest with passing legitimacy?" Belmarniss wonders.

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"Yeah. I mean, I think he did the right thing, but in doing so he broke a law that was not an obviously ridiculous law to have and then he went to jail for it and you do not, generally, get to break out of jail because you had a good reason for the original crime. I'd rather negotiate his release, if we can."

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"Is that likely?"

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<I don't know. It depends who all of you ...are... and whether you make sense to the Andalite government and are capable of being diplomatic at it and want to help with the war.>

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"We said who we are!"

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<You did not say the things that I'd want to know in order to guess whether you will be able to build a good diplomatic relationship with the Andalite government.>

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"...well, what do you need to know to guess?"

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<How big are your polities? Do they have faster than light travel? Do they have glaring social problems embarrassing them, like, I don't know, slavery or poverty or inadequate access to medical care or overpopulation or infirmity? Are they going to look visually modern to Andalites - do they have brain-computer interfaces, do they have morph or some other way to avoid having to wear bulky spacesuits when meeting, do they have spacious starships, do they select their leaders in some fashion that rewards a career of responsible public service?>

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"Do Andalites have to worry about overpopulation?"

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<Before the war we permitted two children per family. Now families may have one daughter and as many sons as they'd like.>

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"...because only men are soldiers?"

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<With rare exceptions, yes.>

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"...okay, so apart from not having morph, chip Elves pass. Between the two worlds of us, since they have lightleapers and we have a little more polish elsewise, I think."

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"You can have morph if you want it, it's not magic, right?"

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<It's not magic.>

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"We have magic that'll do the same thing, too, if needed."

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"But you have embarrassing social problems. Uh, daeva pass. So do the humans from my Earth depending on what you mean by infirmity exactly, they still, like, age."

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<Andalites do too, they just try very hard not to make this very visible to outsiders. In that case I think one of the civilizations that Andalites will be impressed with would probably succeed at making diplomatic contact and allying against the Yeerks and then asking for me in particular if they wanted.>

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"Inconveniently we don't yet have it confirmed that any of those is close enough to reach. We were going to check where I was from but it doesn't have a government. I suppose the chip Elf Maitmos are government representatives."

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<There's really not much hurry. I'm not being mistreated.>

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"They're very impatient."

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<Bella, too, but she's very young and also has been at war for a long time.>

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"I'm old and have spent about fifteen minutes in a war zone and I'm still impatient."

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<Well, I am intrigued by the idea of not living out the rest of my life in prison but will not be distressed by another week. Especially if you have the telepathy set up so I can talk to people.>

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" - can you not normally talk to people?"

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<There are visiting hours but most hours are not visiting hours.>

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"Oh no."

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"There aren't even other prisoners?"

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"I think this is the only telepathy crystal ball handy so we need it to talk to anyone else we're reaching in another dimension but I don't envision that normally taking most of the day."

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<If it's convenient, it'd be appreciated.>

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"Of course. It'll tend to be fewer of us at a time since only the magic Elves are able to bounce to everyone and they might be busy, but better than nothing."

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<It sounds lovely. Though, to be clear, I'm doing fine. How's the Imperatrix, what's happening on Earth?>

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"Seems to be having fun with the planet you gave her."

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"We didn't really catch up on current events."

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<I am curious about their war production and about morph licensing and about Malawi. And about Bella.>

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"We can ask."

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"Malawi?"

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<They agreed to test lots of programs there. Some involving Andalite tech, some perfectly possible from Earth's technology level with more resources than anyone'd previously been positioned to spend in Malawi.>

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"Huh."

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"Do you know her sister?"

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<Andi? Yes.>

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"You have a Sofa, you said -"

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"Still have her. Him I didn't have a chance to do anything about."

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<Andi does morph dancing. Some people have a gift for controlling the rate and order a morph happens in, and she's one of them. Last I heard she was very happy. She's a good kid.>

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"Well, won't my mom feel like a moron if she finds out he was supposed to have some sort of special talent." Sigh.

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<...what happened?>

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"...she had twins.

Probably important context here is that I'm from a society where it's customary to have lots of kids and then murder at least half of them."

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<I see. Uh - why ->

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"Uh, abbreviating a very long and fraught cultural history, most of us think the deity who sorts people into afterlives is racist and will not sort us fairly, and that they need to prep for that by ingratiating themselves to the people who rule the roost in the Abyss, and those people approve of child-murder. Also both we and our more socially acceptable surface-dwelling cousins don't really get why anybody would like babies, my kind's solving this with slave labor and the surface kind solves it by going slowly extinct, so it's not, like, particularly psychologically difficult to murder a baby. Some people have a harder time with girls, you're supposed to wait with the girls and see if we're useful or anything. My mother didn't have enough slaves around for twins."

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"My society doesn't even make contact with me these days."

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<A terrible loss for them. What reasons do you have to expect afterlives ->

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"...well, we can see them with magic just like we can see you, and resurrect people from them, and one of 'em allows tourism."

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<But we do not go to them?>

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"Just locals, far as I am aware. To be clear I'm more aware than random people but I have not yet stalked Pharasma to her house and loomed over her with a deicidal sharp object and demanded a full explanation, so I could be missing something."

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"We have lots to do but scrying the dead from other places is definitely on the list."

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<Thank you.>

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"Does she live in a house?"

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"That's a good question, I'll have to consider expanding my stalking if I can't find any houses with her in them."

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(He explains who Pharasma and the other deities are to Matirin.)

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"Your mom?" Cam pulls up a family photo. "Adjusting for the ears and color -"

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"That's my folks, yeah, is this really the time to have a sitdown about my mixed feelings about my folks? She outperformed her society a li'l bit, if that makes you feel better."

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"I was actually expecting her to specifically be better about kids. My mom adopts dead kids in Limbo."

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"Well, you know, infanticide isn't all that bad if there's someplace they go where somebody like that will adopt them. I'm mostly not upset on his behalf. He's probably fine."

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<Do I always have the six younger siblings?>

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"Yes. Even in societies where it's an unusual number, I think."

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"It's deeply unusual in Anitam."

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"Were yours sisters?" she asks Anaander.

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"What a bizarre question. No, a mix."

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"I don't think it's bizarre, the phenomenon at work could use any manner of weird parameter to decide how to manifest. It's also not very important that you're all tall, and yet."

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"All yours are brothers?" he asks Aitim.

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"Yes."

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"My parents had girls on purpose because they could inherit."

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"Mine did the same thing, except that boys could inherit."

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"Would it be a very personal question to ask what sort of mix, Anaander?"

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"Female, male, female, male, female, female, female."

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"Huh. That feels - less than random, actually..."

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"What do you mean?"

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"I didn't register a guess beforehand, which would have been more responsible, but I think I expect intuitively that in cases where there's a mix, if we find more of those, Maitimos and Curufinwës will match Fëanáros, Tyelcormos won't - that one surprised me a little so obviously my intuition isn't very reliable - Macalaurës will be male either way, Carnistirs and Ambarussa could go either way."

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" - huh."

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"Are we always the gender that can inherit and hold political power, if there is one?"

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Nods all around.

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"Do your more-human subjects actually not notice or care about people's various sexually correlated characteristics or is it just gauche so they don't admit it?"

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"It's not hard to notice. I don't know what a good analogy is - it's not hard to notice if people have facial acne and it's not very weird to have sexual preferences that they not but if you go around sorting people by it then everyone will think you're well out of line."

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"The analogy I was making in my head was to ethnic characteristics as understood in my native culture circa my lifetime."

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"That might fit."

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Osirians seem to find all of this extremely weird.

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"My foster parents occasionally made a big deal about how since I was blind I didn't know what ethnicity any of my foster siblings were and this was somehow very virtuous of me."

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"...Ah-huh."

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"...I was not a very adoptable baby as they go once I reincarnated, what with being blind and screaming all the time. I assume I screamed all the time because I was too hot and people didn't know about the music allergy and even before I remembered Rirosseth I missed her but I have a normal amount of childhood amnesia about it. So I wound up with a family of the kind that takes in eleven variously disadvantaged children and aggressively attempts to Christianize them."

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"Are you well clear?"

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"Oh, yes, they didn't know I could read so they were very surprised when I was equipped to skip off when I was eighteen with one of the more tolerable sisters and join the Peace Corps."

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Hug. "We have money, if you want to do something else now."

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"Oh, yeah, I figure I can improve on what I've been up to once we're back."

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"Got contact with the multiverse to straighten out, and everything."

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"I love you."

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"I love you!"

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"I think I want to retry the rest of Annie's world-flung-people scries now that we know at least some of them work. We have an appointment with Bella tomorrow afternoon her time, in the event we don't call you again before then anything we should tell her for you?"

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<Just tell her I'm proud of her and I'm sure she'll manage everything.>

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"We would spend less of the meeting trying to convince her she can tell us things if you happen to have a way to encode a message for her about how persuasive we were or something."

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<You can try to loop me in for the meeting if you want but there's nothing inimitable, with Yeerks.>

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"Yeah, that's what I said. More or less. Thanks anyway."

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"The thing only works for one person at a time. I guess Cam could bankroll the purchase of another if there's likely to be another on sale anywhere at the moment."

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"There are probably a couple more in the country. I can make it known that we'd buy one but I wouldn't be very surprised if there were no takers."

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"So probably no conference calls unless it comes about that we can bust you out of Park Jail. ...hey, does that grass look about like where the Elf soul scry was to anybody else?"

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"Yes, it's at least similar."

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"Maybe I can try reembodying the Elf in the same trip then."

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<This is the most common type of grass on our planet.>

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"Whoever goes through can Teleport to the Elf. Assuming they'll be safe if they wake up there?"

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<People would want to be sure they weren't a Yeerk infiltrator but assuming you've explained yourselves there won't be problems.>

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"We can try the diplomatic overture option, yes. Do the socially acceptable species get dinged for talking to the less so ones?"

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<I wouldn't advertise it, but it's not inherently a problem.>

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"Anything else to cover before we hang up?"

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<Be very careful about Yeerk infiltration, if you're sending anyone back and forth to our world or leaving traces someone could use to do that. I don't think it's likely but it'd be disastrous.>

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"Cam and magic Elves and probably also local magic can check, we'll keep an eye out."

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<Thank you.>

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And they can go back to scrying for far-flung Elves and Dwarves again. "Dwarves might just be immune to scrying," Annie remarks.

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"Oh, I bet they are."

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"Check them last, then, so you don't use up fresh crystal ball uses on them."

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"Yeah. - here's another spot an Elf died in. I couldn't tell you if it looks Earthy since I've never looked at Earth before."

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"It looks fairly Earthy!"

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"That's four Earths now? As common as Ardas. Though this scrying method won't find Ardas so maybe they're actually commoner."

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"It could find Ardas if anybody got flung from one to another. Or if more Earths are butterflies to Arda's caterpillar."

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"Natives include -" conjure - "this guy! I wonder why both of us seem to have one most overwhelmingly most common face. Hey Rubelite how many faces have you got?"

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"Eight!"

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"All of the faces represented here and then a couple more?"

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"Yes."

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"Well, let's try to say hi to this Maitimo."

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This Maitimo is sitting on a bench talking with some people.

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"...interrupt, or wait till he's alone?"

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"Can you lot wait that long?"

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"I think I would want to be interrupted for this!"

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"Do we have a standardized introductory message yet -"

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"The ones for Bella and Matirin were similar but they were constrained by the word limit."

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"Yeah, it's probably better to be a bit less brief if we don't have to."

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"Hello, we're a collection of alternate universe versions of you and another template assembled by mysterious forces and seeking more to capitalize on multiversal opportunities, you can respond telepathically to this message, a telepath on our end is relaying in both directions so we can all talk to you."

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- the person on the other end of the scry startles. 

If you do not know anything about fairies and how to safely communicate with us, stop talking.

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He glances around to see if anyone knows anything about fairies and how to safely communicate with them.

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Headshakes all around.

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He waits a second. He looks unsurprised when there's no response.

I can put you in touch with someone who you can safely communicate with as long as you do not share your name, or any part of it.

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It's not really clear if this makes it safe to talk yet.

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He is walking around in the place where he lives. He knocks on a door.

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It opens. "What is it?"

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Giggle.

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If you have any way to contact this person it is safe to do so as long as you do not share your name or any part of it. Or anyone else's name. There are other things that can go wrong but not just through communication. 

 

Do not contact me again. Goodbye.

 

" - uh, I was just telepathically contacted by people from another universe who claim to know lots of versions of me and want to talk. It's not safe for me to do so. I'm hoping they'll agree to talk with you instead."

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"Why can't you just explain to them?"

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"I'm not sure what they're getting from the telepathy - I guess you'll hate that too, but you can ask - and I don't want to bet that the explanation won't count as answering an unanswered question on their end in which case I'm entangled with someone in another universe."

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"I guess. Do you want me to come find you when and if they get in touch, relay stuff?"

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"Sure. It sounds fascinating."

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So she waits.

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"I wish I knew what they were saying. They seem done, let's talk to her?"

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"Yep." 

 

And they send the same message.

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Are you reading my mind?

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"No. This is voluntary only telepathy."

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Don't talk to the faeries at all till you know their rules. The one you need to know for talking to me is that you shouldn't tell me your name, not even a syllable of it. Do you understand?

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"Yes. What would happen if we did that?"

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Makes you my vassal, which means you'd have to do whatever I ordered you to. I wouldn't be inclined to hurt you but it wouldn't be a pleasant surprise.

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"What's the deal with the faeries?"

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They can't use just a syllable, and they don't have vassalization per se, but unlike me they can get what's called 'entanglement' off even a nickname if you use it enough. The faery you initially addressed knows me as "Harmony". Entanglement with a faery makes you subject to faery rules, which they also follow. In addition to name based entanglement there is debt based entanglement which accrues or as the case may be decreases when between two parties at least one of whom is a faery one of them lies for an extremely restrictive definition of lying, commits violence, answers questions, exchanges or damages property, does favors, exposes the other party to artistic content, or performs sex acts. A subset of those things constitutes what is called 'misbehavior' - lying, violence to and only to someone you are indebted to, theft or destruction of property that doesn't belong to you. If you commit misbehavior while entangled with any faeries then you and everyone you are entangled with, and propagating out along their own entanglements with some decay, will suffer what is called 'misfortune', ranging from bad luck and headaches to worse luck and sudden horrible death.

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"Does he have a way to tell if we are already entangled with him?"

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"- they ask if you have a way to tell if you are already entangled with them."

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" - I'd need to see them."

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"Should I tell them that's urgent?"

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"Pretty urgent, if they have reason to think we might be."

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He would need to see you. If you have a way to arrange that and have reason to believe it's possible you may be entangled with him already that is urgent.

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"Welp.

Uh. Please define lying so we can discuss this safely."

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Sarcasm counts. Metaphors count. I recommend being very conservative but if you have an edge case I can ask him.

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" - Zone of Truth makes it impossible to knowingly lie in the zone of the spell if you don't throw it off but it's not that restrictive. I might cast it anyway - as an additional safeguard - does the casting of spells count as violence -"

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"They want to know if casting spells counts as violence. They have one that makes it impossible to lie, albeit for a less comprehensive definition."

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"I would expect the use of magic to cause injuries or illness to count and the use of magic to make it impossible to lie to not count."

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He thinks that spell will not count but spells that cause illness or injury would.

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"What about ordering other people to do violence - I run a country and could be considered to be doing that all the time -"

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"Does proxy violence count? I imagine he would know this if any of the people he were doing proxy violence to were faeries, but -"

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"No, that's fine."

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He says proxy violence is fine. And anyway, it doesn't kick in unless you are in debt to the person you're doing violence to. But violence creates debt so if you attack a faery you can only do it once.

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"Okay. Zone of Truth. Maybe we can design a modified, more stringent one."

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"Is there a way other than Gate to let him have a look at us?"

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"I am not immediately thinking of one. I take it they can't cast spells themselves on their side. Someone could Plane Shift and then Teleport there and then do a scry in the other direction, except that scrying this palace doesn't work."

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"If it turns out we all know his name, is there a way to... stop?"

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"There is very rare memory modification magic."

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"It would probably be challenging for some of us to avoid re-learning it."

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"I seem to recall your Eru saying you'd be glad you came."

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"He is not necessarily completely omniscient any more to the point that would be necessary to take that as a guarantee of nondisaster no matter what we run into."

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"How many people do you need to see to determine whether we're entangled?"

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"If the risk here is that they might know the name, any one of them who might know it would do, unless they have different guesses."

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"Is there any possibility that being in different universes might itself be protective, and if so, might creating a gate for visibility undo that?"

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" - not impossible. Hard to test, though."

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"Is there nothing very small-magnitude one of them could try?"

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"The problem is that things stack, so if they try something small and then slip up later it'll be much worse. And name entanglement is so much that even a very small lie would potentially count for a lot."

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"Well, do you want to try to even things out here as much as you can and then test it, or look at them and maybe be meaningfully closer and more likely to be in fact entangled?"

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"It'd take a very long time to get things meaningfully more evened out here. I - sort of expect they'll make a mistake in that time, if we are entangled. I think we should look."

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He thinks you'd make a mistake in the time it would take to mitigate the risks of a test. He thinks he should look.

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"I think he should look at.... my one...... because then if looking makes it worse we can kill this bit and get a different bit if we want. She has lots."

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Sigh.

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"Uh. We could - if they have a phonetic alphabet - assign numbers to the letters, and both perform some mathematical operation on the number corresponding to the name, and see if we get the same output. To see if we're worrying over nothing and before spending a gate on it."

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" - that's a good idea."

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"Are there operations that work that way?"

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"One he can do by hand will not be very secure against determined hacking, but unless someone here is very good at mental math and can't avoid doing it, it should let us check without accidentally learning the name if we don't already know it. I don't think I will compulsively reverse-engineer the hash, so maybe - she -" he points at Rirosseth - "should only relay to me while we try this, to limit exposure to risk. Do they have a phonetic alphabet?"

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"They ask if you have something called a 'phonetic alphabet'."

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"We do."

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"They want you to write it out fairly big so they can see it through their spying mechanism, and assign numbers to each letter, and then do math to the numbers that correspond to your name, so they can see if they get the same answer with their guess."

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"Okay." So he will teach them his world's alphabet.

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" - that's Quenya."

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"Not promising about whether our guess is right."

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"Well, let's try it anyway."

Math ensues.

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"They say it's the same number."

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"Wow. Okay."

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"So now I tell them to do the gate thing?"

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"I think so."

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Unless you have another idea I think the gate is the next step.

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"Have to leave the Dome. Who all is coming with - Anaander -"

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"I think by rights I should be considered less disposable than the proper cyborgs," she says, standing up.

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"What, are you an improper cyborg?"

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"The things in my brain that connect me to the rest of me aren't going to be doing a full backup while there's nothing to back up to, I don't think. I am not very bothered about this because I don't care about this thread of experience very much."

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"It's a problem that has to do with knowing things. If a chip Elf dies and then gets a new body they will still know things. If you die and we get a new bit of you and tell it everything you know except the thing it shouldn't know then that is different. I don't think memory magic would work worse on you than on them but killing you will work better on you than on them if the memory magic does not do it."

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"You could fork them from five minutes ago, probably."

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"I could, yeah. Is there something I could be making to back you up to?"

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"That's an interesting question. You can't make the kind of ship that Rubelite is, right?"

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"I assume I can make one and it just will mysteriously fail to be a person."

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"Huh. That's what I'd normally use, if I didn't have any more me, a ship AI or a station AI. I guess it might still suffice for that while failing to be a person."

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"Yeah, stuff you write to it should behave normally. Can you section out subsets of the information on it?"

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"I can. If I have permissions to the system."

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"I can, yes."

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"So I could let you back up and if it winds up that we have to kill you Spaceship over there can fuck with it until it won't occur to you that the faery might be named the thing he's named. Can you do that, Spaceship?"

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"I know how."

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"I, uh, almost definitely cannot forget that he is named the thing he is named. I can take the effect off my girlfriend but not myself."

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"I would be pretty surprised if I could forget, though not for any magical reasons."

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"The Empress-related backup plan is for if being seen through the gate, itself, worsens the situation. If the situation is already very bad then we need another idea."

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Nod.

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"All right. Let's go look at the fairies."

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Rubelite tells Cam what to make.

 


"It isn't working right," she reports. "It has very high latency."

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"That... isn't how I'd expect mysteriously not being a mind to manifest."

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" - weird."

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"I think she can still back up to it but it will take a long time."

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I'm not really following this branch of the conversation very well but it might be that you're sped up. Faeries and people entangled with them and under some conditions also other people run about a thousand times faster than default.

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"....that might be worse than having to give up sarcasm!"

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"Is there a way to fix it?"

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Yes, it's doable even if you can't get disentangled.

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"Is there any reason not to try using our magic to dispel it?"

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It'll make talking to me much more difficult. I'm not aware of any other risk specifically associated with trying to alter your speed and don't know what if any side effects to expect from your magic's use in that capacity.

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"Huh. Okay."

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"Tentatively in favor of staying...sped up, if we're in fact sped up and if we can speed other people up too. There are a lot of bad things going on and this way we can act on them faster."

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"Some of us will get old and die."

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" - right, fair."

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"What's the ratio of speed?"

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A thousand to one, about.

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"Harmony, we have a while to wait before a precaution we're taking is through. Is that all right?"

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"They're having some kind of technical problem because of being sped up and want to wait before letting you look at one of them they seem to consider relatively expendable for reasons I don't fully understand," she tells Lohte.

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"Okay. - if they want to check with a slave or something they can send them through if that gets them entangled, we can take care of them, they don't have to kill them."

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"I don't have the impression she's a slave, just that her dying is not understood to be very bad if they do the technical thing they are having problems with and maybe even if they don't. She's going along with it. I can suggest it anyway if you like."

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"Does she... want to die? ...they could at least have the option."

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He's offering to take care of the person you're considering killing, instead.

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"The deal with her is that she has millions of bodies in another dimension and only one was brought here. Usually they are all in contact frequently enough to remain a single entity but they aren't getting updates from this one. We're recording her memories for her so they can have the relevant information edited out and the rest of it could be sent back to the rest of her later. Also you might not want her even if she were interested."

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Promise relays this a little incredulously.

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"Does...this one... want to be dead?"

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He wants to know if this one wants to be dead.

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"Hasn't really expressed much preference one way or the other? Aside from pointing out we could do the space Elves."

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Promise repeats that.

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"Is it just me or is that a weird attitude to have about a person who is an alternate universe version of yourself? - that's not directed at them."

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"I'm getting all this through relays and I'm sure I'm missing things."

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Nod. "Well, uh, offer stands. Most humans don't like belonging to a fairy court but it's often regarded as better than death."

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"He says the offer stands and most humans don't like belonging to a fairy court but it's often regarded as better than death."

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Anaander appears intensely entertained by this.

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"If she prefers it I am not aware of us having a reason to forbid her."

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"Awww, how principled."

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"If she were my citizen I wouldn't allow it but she's not."

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Promise is pretty confused but continues to relay.

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"Okay. Who wants to come with me to somewhere we can Gate from, just Anaander?"

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"Wait, do we think we're sped up? Doesn't that tell us that we're definitely entangled? What else would be doing it?"

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Cor peers out the nearest door and looks into the hallway. "I think we're sped up," he concludes.

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"They're sped up, does that obviate the need for the test?"

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"If they're sped up it'd be because they're entangled."

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"He says if you're sped up it's because you're entangled."

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"Okay. And to get unentangled, we have to forget his name?"

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"Yes."

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"Maybe he should change his name."

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"I do not think that's possible."

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"We could check whether we could resurrect fairies and whether it breaks entanglements and if so kill and raise you? But we haven't tried resurrecting anyone outside the local afterlife system yet."

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"Is his grandmother dead, we could try her and see what happens."

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"Yes, she is, how'd you know that -"

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"The initial message mentioned alternate universe versions of you. I think you should avoid being too aware of any of the individual instances, though of course you know more than me about what level of information would prove dangerous."

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"You are right and I would rather not. Okay. You can raise my grandmother if you'd like."

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"What do you need to do that?" Cam asks Khemet.

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"To have prepared True Resurrection, which I didn't. I guess I could try it with regular Resurrection since we'll have a body - how long ago did she die -"

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"Measured in what, winters? Would've been twelve."

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"That's fine, then. It still is possible that this'll fail and that it'd work fine with a True Resurrection."

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"Should those of us who may also know her name be in a different room, or - what level of precaution is reasonable here -"

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"Different room. No way to see or hear each other. Knowing the name of someone you've never interacted with shouldn't entangle them with you."

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"That might include the person currently relaying for us. Who wants to take over -"

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"I mean, it includes everyone who can relay efficiently, but I can relay inefficiently."

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"Let's do that, then."

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Out go Quendi, and also Annie just to be safe since she's unlikely to be able to forget things and might ever learn her girlfriend's grandfather's name.

Annie comes back to report that they can't open the doors to their guest rooms.

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"You can't affect many artificial objects while you're fast. I don't fully understand the principle as it was explained to me."

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"It's not a big deal, we can sit in the hall, but I thought it bore mentioning." She leaves again.

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"Anything else to cover before I go ahead and make the body?"

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"I don't think so."

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"The fl- is it importantly a metaphor if I say the floor needs to be covered, equivocating between senses of 'cover', since he meant 'mention in conversation' and I mean 'put a tarp down' -"

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"That's permitted."

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Cam puts a tarp down, and then a body.

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He tries Resurrection, which does nothing.

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"First attempt does not appear to have worked."

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"- uh, if you only get to prepare spells at dawn, you don't get to do that for a while, if we're running faster than the day cycle. I probably still can, but..."

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" - yeah. That'll be annoying.

I can see if Miracle can raise her but it might be my last one for a while."

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"Are you sure that Miracle will work if you're running faster than Abadar?"

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"Are you sure nothing higher leverage will come up before the next time you can prep spells?"

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"Miracle is normally instantaneous, so even if it takes him subjectively a while I'd expect it to work. I have no idea what else we're going to run into but this seems like the thing with the best prospects of getting us to not be fast, which I'd really like."

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"Is it in fact an unproblematic solution to kill and raise this guy? I mean, for one thing we'll know his name all over again once he's back, and for another presumably everyone he knows will miss him while we're being slow about getting him raised, especially if it takes until dawn."

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"It doesn't seem like an ideal solution but do we have any other ones? I can't keep being fast, it's going to very quickly cause a lot of disasters here."

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"What kind of disasters?"

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"Well, they're going to panic over the fact I vanished, and then do a lot of magic to try to figure out where I am, and when it turns up that I'm still here do a lot of magic to try to establish contact, and when that fails try to cover up the fact that I disappeared, and when that fails plausibly have a civil war."

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"Why would you have a civil war? Don't you have a god pick your rulers specifically to avoid that kind of problem?"

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"You can't just avoid interacting with him in resurrected form to have knowing his name not be a problem because you're the person who'd have to resurrect him! Is there someone else handy who can do that who we can communicate with in writing or something?"

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"We can have someone else resurrect him. We do have a god pick our rulers to avoid civil wars but I don't think Abadar can pick a new pharaoh while I'm not dead just trapped."

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"Okay. Fairy dude, is that okay if this works on your grandmother?"

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"I'm not at all sure you'll be able to kill me but I'm not opposed in principle, if you intend to bring me back not entangled to you at the soonest available opportunity."

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"Why wouldn't we be able to?"

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"You generally cannot kill a fairy unless they are very in your debt, which I am not."

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"What interferes exactly?"

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"Injuries will tend very strongly to be nonlethal, and trying puts you in the debt of the person you tried to kill. if you try again then you get misfortune for attacking someone you're indebted to."

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It's probably useful to know that debt is transferable.

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"Oh, yes, that's useful. You estimate the value of your life in some material denomination, I give you that much stuff or give it to someone to give you, we pick something instantly lethal just in case, you have a heap of stuff that you can give the random cleric who can't guess your name in case that turns out to be expensive - is there any projected issue with this plan contingent on resurrecting your grandmother working as one would hope?"

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"I do not know if it will slow you down but I don't expect it to make the situation worse and it might slow you down."

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"Is there a path between here and whatever cleric can do the resurrection without opening any doors? Should we have a plan for what to do with the gate after everything's squared away, for example does leafwings over there want to come hang out since being able to guess a bit of her name doesn't seem to be a problem yet?"

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Don't say it but how much have you guessed, I don't have a way to check from here.

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"One syllable."

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That's not enough to get me but it's probably enough for me to get you if I think the wrong thing. It's not a catastrophe, though, it doesn't do anything passively the way his version does. It would stop you from hurting me and mean I could give you orders if I wanted to.

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"Do we have somewhere to put her where she won't accidentally hear syllables of names occasionally?"

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"It's not our palace. Do you?"

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"Maybe she likes where she is."

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Beats where I used to be.

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"I am not sure I can improve on it."

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"Well, she can write me letters now and then. I speak Quenya so you can just use the - a new Quenya mail label without my name in it. Is a nickname too special if no one associates me as an individual with it but the nickname is associated with the unknown identity of whoever did a thing that I did? I can just make something up if that's too entangly."

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"It'd be a bit risky since there'd be sudden entanglement if you ever were connected to the famous name."

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"Okay. I can plan to check the mail label 'letter to 905624218'."

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"What'd you do?"

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"Do you have to ask me now? I'd like to describe it in a fun way that might make it too imprecise to be technically accurate."

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"I can wait."

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"Abadar, if you have some way of being aware of this request despite the speed difference, please restore this dead fairy to life," he says.

 

 

She wakes.

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"It worked. Do you want to tell her anything?"

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She looks very confused and some amount distressed. 

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"Uh, hi. We were just testing whether resurrecting fairies works. We're going to get you home in a bit -"

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"To her son's court. She's never been here. We can get her back to her old court but it'll take longer."

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"Your grandson says 'To her son's court. She's never been here. We can get her back to her old court but it'll take longer.'"

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She looks around very confusedly. She doesn't say anything.

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"Okay. Uh, we have a proof of concept, then. I guess the next step is to Gate over...and give you stuff and kill you...and then hopefully be slowed back down and arrange you a resurrection?"

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"I need a few hours to set things in order here, as I'll be dead a long time under the best of circumstances."

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"We need to confirm a route to the other cleric."

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"I don't know if it matters but we're very small right now."

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"Very small? Relative to what?"

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"I don't know what frame of reference we might share."

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"I mean, I mostly think of all people as...thinking of themselves as a normal size for people ...and I'm confused what else you could possibly be."

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"There are paths that alter people's sizes when one goes along them and we're at the small end of one."

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"Huh. Okay. Do you have a sense of what a normal size for humans is?"

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"I've met one human and she was a little taller than me, when I was not interacting with such a path."

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"Okay. I expect we'll be normal human size when we come through, is there somewhere you can get to where you're that size also?"

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"Yes."

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"How long will squaring away stuff on your end take?"

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"You in the crown - don't know if titles count - will the other cleric have the right spell prepared? If so then I don't know why fairy dude expects to be dead a long time..."

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"If this works, you'll slow down. Then you'll go get the other person. Then you'll get them to cast the spell and bring me back. That's probably a slow hour at minimum."

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"And it's pretty unlikely they'll have both Gate and Miracle prepared."

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"We need the gate first, which you can do yourself, and if we're lucky we won't need to open doors to get to them. Then he doesn't have to be dead more than a few minutes normal time. Where would they be?"

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"Temple of Nethys, downtown. I bet there will be doors but we could teleport through them if we can get out of the Dome."

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"Does the Dome have doors that stand open?"

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"No. It has various doors that are sometimes open, and we can hope one of them is, or I could try holding really still for a long time with a piece of paper telling someone to open it."

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"You could also put the piece of paper down if you have some way to verify written orders are from you."

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"Clerics don't get Arcane Mark."

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"Yeah, I don't think they'd know, not confidently."

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"You'll have to show us the exits to the Dome that might be open."

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"Yeah, okay, we can go look."

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"Kind of think we should stop looking for new universes with our current resource base," she says to Annie.

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"It kinda looks that way. Which is unfortunate but I guess now we have a principled way to resolve explore versus exploit."

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"Yeah."

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Meanwhile:

"How exactly do you estimate the value of your life?"

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"I have had people killed, I know how much debt is the right amount."

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"I'm assuming here that something awful would have happened if they had lied to me about having been able to raise your grandmother from the dead but supposing that's not the case, or that they choose not to or fail at raising you for some reason, what happens to the stuff? Supposing the answer isn't 'they just take it all right back because why not', I guess. And the court, what are you going to do -"

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"I think long term we'd fold back in with my mother's father, if I'm not around, but my mother's competent to manage everyone, she did it before I was around. 

I don't - really expect them to raise me, it seems to require too many things to go right, but I think the entanglements should be gone. And we need the entanglements to be gone, a big group of nonfairies in another dimension isn't going to last a week without lying or doing something else wrong."

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"Do you want me to make them raise you? I may be able to, assuming they don't have a way to have lied."

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" - yes. Would you?"

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"I'd want to have some reason to believe they weren't going to do it themselves before I started slinging around enforced orders, since that would make the situation potentially adversarial and I don't, personally, have practice from that end, and I don't think I can derive all the names plus I need actual original names so it's possible they don't know each other's, but given all that I would sooner not let them just kill you and leave you that way."

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" - I could write down a syllable of mine. I would really really really recommend not looking at it but it should help you get the ones you couldn't get already, if you needed it."

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"Well, that's drastic, but I suppose everything under consideration is drastic.

Your grandmother's probably in their debt at the moment for being resurrected unless the debt system completely fails to parse resurrection as an event. Given that I'm not sure killing you would even slow them down..."

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"Might slow them down except for the one who resurrected her."

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"Right. I'm not sure if they have a plan for getting disentangled with her... I'll ask."

Do you have a plan for getting disentangled with his grandmother?

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" - no? She has to give us stuff?"

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I'm not sure if she's even in fact entangled with you. She'd be able to see it, so you could ask her, and if she isn't, then Lohte won't owe your friend for the resurrection and can buy her debt from you with what you use to get him in deep enough to kill; but if she is then, yes, that needs to be resolved for you to slow down, though specifically giving you objects isn't the only way.

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"Hey," he says to the fairy, "are you in my debt?"

 

She nods. 

"Okay. Hang on, we're going to fix that."

 

What else can resolve it?

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I think the most popular options among fairies are violence and sex but I don't go in for those so I would need to ask for details about how specifically to calibrate it for whatever amount. Most other stuff is more time-consuming except for giving people items, and I don't know if she's still technically in possession of any stuff she might have had at the time of her death. If none of that sounds good it might make sense for you to sell me specifically her debt in exchange for some magical service, I can do magic pretty quickly but would need Lohte to gauge how much magical lighting or whatever it would take to cover.

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"How much debt?" he asks the woman.

"...for my life," she replies, as if she thinks he must be very dense.

 

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"That's going to take a really long time to pay off conventionally. I think he should trade you."

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"How much would it be - I don't know what this all looks like to you, would a gate do it, or a few of them, or lights, or...?"

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"A life is a lot. A couple of gates, maybe."

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"If sorcery even works there, which it may not. If it doesn't I can transmute something here, if there's any metal that would be more valuable if I turned it into some other kind of metal or something like that."

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"There are definitely some metals that are more valuable than other metals but we have the ability to make arbitrary amounts of stuff at will, sort of, does that affect it?"

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"I don't know - would transmuting something for them be less value given that they can make arbitrary amounts of stuff at will -"

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" - I have no idea. They can make arbitrary amounts of stuff at will? That's - astonishingly powerful -"

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"I think that's how they plan to pay enough to kill you."

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"I don't know how to check if their abilities change the value of objects given to them without giving them any objects, and I take it the gate can only be open a minute."

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"I could see if I get lucky with one of mine. - once we have visibility we should check if your grandmother is still entangled with whichever of your parents."

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"Oh - yeah, we should. My father."

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"Would the lot of you like to consider my opening a gate instead of you doing it as a favor to you for which you're prepared to trade as much as possible of his grandmother's debt, and then check through there if name entanglement persists after resurrection by checking between Lohte's father and grandmother without any of you watching lest you also guess his name, and if it does proceed with the plan, including thinking of additional magic you might like done if a gate isn't enough to buy his grandmother's debt?"

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He repeats this to himself. 

"I assume the considering things favors is relevant to managing the debt, somehow?"

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"If I just do things on my own and the things aren't a standard debt-affecting category it doesn't count, but favors do count. My gates take varying amounts of time to settle and there's also some interaction I don't really understand with fairy paths if I start them from this world, so it might take me a few tries, and I have to manually close them and can't do that until they settle. I have some already that lead to my world and can start there if I can't make one large enough for full-size people here."

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"Sure, we would consider a gate to your world a favor which you can trade for this fairy we resurrected."

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"'My world' is ambiguous, how about just 'a gate enabling exchange between us' or something like that."

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"Sure, I'd consider it a favor if you set up a gate enabling exchange between us."

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"I'll get to work on that, then. I think maybe if I go almost but not quite to the beginning of the fairy path, I'll be able to make it and then people will still be able to fit through, just not with as much margin as I'd usually leave. Lohte, do you want to get your father and meet me there -"

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"Yes, I can do that."

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"Do you guys have an idea for if she still counts as knowing her son's name?"

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"I am sort of confused about how all this works, but I thought she will count if she sees him and probably won't count if she doesn't see him?"

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"What I'm worried about is if, before they actually look at each other, a fairy looking at both of them can identify them as entangled. If that happens, then killing Lohte and bringing him back will probably not disentangle you."

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"Killing him will. Right?"

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"Leaving him dead will."

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"Okay. So if we'd be reentangled as soon as he's resurrected then once he is dead we will change our plans and figure out how I can make sure Osirion is safe if I'm too sped-up to manage it and conceivably we should also try to figure out a modified, more stringent Zone of Truth and then we'll resurrect him once we can weather the entanglement a bit better."

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"I don't know how feasible the spell idea is but it sounds handy."

And she goes to almost but not quite the end of the path. "I need geographical information on where you want this to lead."

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"Geographical information?"

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"Like describe landmarks in the terrain and where you want the gate relative to those."

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"We're inside a giant black beetle shell, is that useful?"

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"Sure, 'ground level so many feet in this direction from the this edge of the shell' should work."

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"You can try ground level two hundred feet from the southernmost edge of the shell, but if it doesn't work, that might be because of some features of the shell and we might need to go outside it to get your gate to work."

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"Okay."

She tries.

A moment later she steps through.

"Okay, I'm going to turn her invisible after I've watched her long enough to do that so who sees whom when is under more control." She studies the fairy. "It'd be nice to meet you all under less stressful circumstances."

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"You too!"

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The fairy looks back at her. She looks fairly concerned about all of this nonsense. 

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"Hey. I'm not planning to mistreat you. I'm sorry this is so complicated."

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"Do I have a court, now?"

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"I'm staying with your son's court and intend to transfer you to them. I will not want to keep you long term, it's just expedient for the transfer."

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- she nods.

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"Does this have - implications we are unaware of -"

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"Fairies without courts are at greater general risk, as I understand it. It's typically preferred to keep everyone you're entangled with where you can see them and that lends itself to a court structure."

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"We maybe shouldn't talk too much while we're waiting, considering."

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The fairy holds still and waits to go invisible.

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After about ten minutes there she goes. "Okay, if you follow me you'll come through the gate."

And through she goes.

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He glances from his father (who is sitting rigidly looking in the other direction) to his grandmother. 

 

"No entanglement.

- and now there is."

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" - that's my son," she says a bit incredulously. "How long has it been?"

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Promise re-visibles her.

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Then he will run over and give her a hug.

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"Lohte, how long do you need - I can go tell them to wait -"

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"Another twenty minutes or so."

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She nods. "Lohte says another twenty minutes or so."

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"Okay." He paces.

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Cam writes down his mail label for the new Bell in case she wants to write them later.

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Pelape tries to play a pocket everything game to kill time. It doesn't work.

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And eventually - "everything's squared away."

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"Did the gate, uh, pay for your grandma?"

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"Yes, close enough that the rest of the entanglement'll fade quickly-seeming-to-you if you're slowed down when I die."

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"You in the crown, in what denomination will your clerical friend prefer his compensation?"

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"Gold."

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"Say when," Cam tells Lohte, and he starts stacking up gold bars.

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And eventually - 

"That's enough."

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Cam makes a wagon, starting underneath and lifting them off the floor in the process. "Does anybody want to give him the gold for me, I hate killing people."

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"Not positive I can kill him in one shot and have to worry at all about my technical evil."

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"Same, though I can almost definitely kill him in one shot if he's not harder to kill than a human without combat experience."

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"I could...probably kill someone if I really needed to do that?"

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"This is pathetic. Give me a gun, I'll do it."

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"Even a human will not consistently die from a point blank shot to the head, what kind of gun do you have in mind?"

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"A standard-issue Radchaii service weapon will definitely consistently kill a human."

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Lohte looks less than thrilled at this conversation.

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"...sorry. We could try to think of something else if you want?"

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Headshake. "I don't really care if you hurt me. I do care if you bring me back."

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"You sure your buddy's prepped for it?" Belmarniss asks Khemet.

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"No, I'm not. Most clerics of our level prepare Miracle because it's very versatile but it's possible he didn't, or already used it. It's also possible that if he's just recently dead, Raise Dead will work, we know that Miracle works and that Resurrection didn't work without the original body but that doesn't mean it takes Miracle. But it might be he's not prepared and it takes until tomorrow."

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"Do you need more squaring-away in light of that?" Promise asks Lohte.

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"None of the squaring away was done on the assumption I'll be back."

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"Does anyone think I shouldn't let her have a standard issue service weapon?"

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"You could assert that after you kill Lohte you'll give it back."

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"I could, but that wouldn't actually as worded be very protective against me murdering you all, not that I plan to do that. If you give me the weapon I will shoot him and then give it back once he's dead; I don't expect to do anything else while I have it; I don't want any of you dead; if I did, I'd still play nice until I was back with the rest of me."

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"I can slag it afterwards so it won't be lurking, but I don't want it to come down to a contest of reaction time."

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"Why would I shoot a bunch of people here? Because I'm evil? That's not actually how evil ...works."

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"I don't actually see a reason for a standard issue service weapon to be around after serving this one purpose and if you want one to we can talk about that later." He kicks the wagon of gold at her. He adds the gun on top.

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She picks up the gun. 

"I would like to give you this gold in exchange for killing you, agreed?" she says to Lohte.

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- he nods.

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She shoots him. 

 

"Someone want to double check if we're slow now?"

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"My fellow wing-haver seems to've vanished," he points out, disintegrating the gun. He puts the fairy body in another wagon. He puts a lid on it. "Let's not keep them waiting."

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"I'll call ahead." He does a Sending. "Urgently require your assistance, prepared Miracle today?" Pauses. 

"He has it."

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Cam grabs the wagon handle and heads out.

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A few dozen guards join them as they head out of the palace.

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"Here's a bunch of gold and the diamonds for the spell and here's a body to raise, don't cast till we're out of the room, that's important."

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The guy looks really confused.  "Your grace, what -"

"The last one took a Miracle, for complicated reasons. If this one's easier - he died today - then great, I don't care what spell you use as long as he makes it. He might immediately vanish once alive, that's fine."

"-yes, your grace."

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"Leave the door open," Cam recommends. And they go.

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He wakes up.

 

 

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"Oh good, you're fast. They left the door open."

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"Is there a route back to the gate through which we definitely won't see them?"

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"I'll go ahead of you to make sure."

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"Thank you."

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A few minutes later they're back through the gate. Promise shuts it.

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He takes a deep breath, a little shakily. "How long has it been?"

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"I slept once."

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- nod. 

"Thank you."

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"I didn't wind up doing anything, you don't even need this drawing I brought along, but you're welcome."

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"You, ah, seemed prepared to. It meant a lot to me."

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"I don't have... any reason to want you dead?"

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"I mean, I'd have been surprised if you stabbed me because you don't have any reason to want me dead. I wouldn't have been surprised if you failed to take any actions about me being dead, though. Lots of people are dead, most of them people you don't have any reason to want dead."

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"I don't usually have - uh, I have not in the past usually had - avenues to make people stop being dead!"

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"Yeah, this alternate universe thing sounds really neat aside from the hazards of any interaction with it."

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"I can interact with it. I'm going to write them a letter."

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"Oh good. All right."

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"Anything you want it to say?"

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"I'm curious how their magic works but I suspect you were already going to ask about that. Uh, I want more context on the one they were willing to kill, I'm ...confused about that."

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"Yeah, I'm confused too."

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"And I want to know what it means for people to be alternate universe versions of other people."

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"Well, one of them that we saw looked like you and two of them looked like me. Except for colors. I'm not sure what the deal with the other ones was but I will try to find out."

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"Thank you. Let me know if you need anything from us or if they've got anything we can use here."

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"Am I going to have an even more annoying time figuring out what things I might want in exchange for my services? I suppose I can see if any of them want to house prisoners in nice conditions for me."

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"They seemed to have a lot of fancy stuff, maybe they want that."

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Giggle. "I'm glad you got your grandmother back."

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"Me too. I should go check if she's settling in okay."

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"I might be able to disentangle from that idiot. I'm not in a hurry about it, but if we got ahold of her and re-did some of that rigmarole with her and it cut me loose, would I be able to speed up and slow down just by manipulating whether I was in debt or not at any given time? Like I could consolidate all my debt onto one fairy, and then they could tell me they'd consider it a favor if I did some thing that's doable slow, and then I could square with them and do that thing whenever..."

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"Might work. Even if the speeding-up side of it didn't work you can speed up at will anyway with a circle."

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"That's simpler! So I guess if she would like to be rid of me this court can try to borrow her from the one she's with now."

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"I'll see what we can do."

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And she flutters off to write her letter.

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He notifies everyone it's safe to come back to their conference room.

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"Did everything go okay?"

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"Without a hitch, yeah, we're all disentangled and nothing went seriously wrong. A cleric has a heap of gold, fairy dude has his grandma, my fellow winged person is gonna write us a letter, I guess there's a magical gate that goes between here and her place now so hopefully the letter explains that so Khemet's security doesn't have aneurysms..."

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"I'm not sure they shouldn't! Depending on the security on their end, I guess. Fairies seem very dangerous."

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"Yes, but they want nothing to do with us, so there's that?"

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"Yes, it could definitely be worse. Speaking of which, I think we should stop looking for worlds for a bit."

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"Yeah, I was saying to Rirosseth that this does seem to be a principled reason to go exploit rather than explore. Though we should go ahead and keep our appointment with Bella probably."

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"Agreed."

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"I wonder why she lives with them."

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"I wonder if she can leave or if she's stuck there. It'd be really hard to give up sarcasm and whatnot."

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"She didn't seem to be urgently trying to figure out if she could leave."

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"I wanna know where she was before that was so much worse."

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"Well, maybe she'll write and we can ask all these questions."

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"I want lunch."

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He gestures at a servant. 

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"Amentans, you still leery of human comestibles?"

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"No reason not to err on the side of caution while we have you. I'll take a copy of what I had for dinner on the day of the last glass festival."

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"I'll take whatever they're serving today at Cartier's."

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And everyone can have lunch.

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When Cam checks for a letter, it's pretty long. The gist boils down to:

- You can reply by leaving return letters on the floor near the gate, I'll check for them every subjective couple of weeks, maybe less often when I think you're all asleep.
- If I shouldn't wander around your building while fast for some reason please say so.
- Don't tell any fairies you meet but you can all call me Promise. Perhaps for the first half an hour after your reply you could all wear nickname signs so I know what to refer to you by amongst ourselves.
- What was the deal with being willing to murder one of you, that's seriously weird.
- Tell me all about magic.
- Also tell me all about alternate universe versions of people.
- There is a person with whom I am entangled in a way I can't just square. If I can get clear of her I might be able to speed up and slow down relatively conveniently whenever I like, which would be nice. Presuming we get ahold of her would it be possible for me to employ you in getting her dead and then resurrected to see if that works on this kind of entanglement?
- Here are a bunch of things I can do with sorcery, which seems to work in your world, if that's ever important.
- Do not wander around where I'm from. Don't even talk to people there. The tail risk downside potential is even worse than what you ran into spying on Lohte and that could have horribly killed hundreds of people.
- I keep running into wanting to do stuff for people around here and not having a way to absorb the debt and not wanting to be that entangled. It has been proposed that I could buy prisoners off people but I don't have a great idea for what to do with random prisoners, do you?

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"Sounds like a you."

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"She ideally shouldn't run around in the palace, there's various detection up that might see her and people will panic, and I'd really rather not have gates directly here. She can run around the city as much as she wants."

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"It sounded like there is in fact a gate directly here and she can open it whenever she wants and will be doing so to read return messages."

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"Yes. I am not thrilled about this. I don't know if it's possible to close it or anything, but I would rather that our base of operations on this world not be in the palace, long-term, and that there not be a gate directly between here and fairyland."

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"Well, I can mention this in the reply."

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"You should give me and Annie computers like yours, we're humans and have fewer scarce powers."

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"Annie won't even have to teach it a foreign language. All right. There's a learning curve though and Promise will need the letter on paper."

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"I'll write it on my everything and you can be a printer later."

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"Is the thing where she wants to kill and resurrect another fairy repeatable? When?"

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"I can prepare the spells for it again in the morning."

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"Whether taking prisoners off her hands makes sense probably depends a lot on whether they're fairies or not, but if they're not is there a good place to put them?"

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"We have supervised monasteries where people can work on lawfulness and goodness, but they have to be cooperative. We don't have prisons."

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"Well, we don't know why they're prisoners, maybe they're just incorrigible liars."

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"We can definitely ask for more details. - the other thing we should do at some point is get in touch with the neutral good gods. Nirvana has an island for people they manage to squeeze into their afterlife who are super evil, and presumably they have some kind of arrangements to go with that."

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"How do we talk to those?"

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"Well in principle you can just pray to them but in practice I think it helps to find a cleric of theirs."

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"Why does it help? What goes wrong if you don't find a cleric?"

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"Gods do not have infinite attentional capacity and are not guaranteed to hear you just because you are talking to them, and might be annoyed if you start actively trying to get them to pay more attention to you when you're not even a follower of theirs. They usually pay attention to their clerics, though."

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"Hopefully only when addressed."

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"Is there much neutral good around here?"

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"Sarenrae's church is in good standing. Helped with the war for independence, actually."

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"What specifically would you be saying to Sarenrae? - also we all need nicknames and nametags -"

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Now everyone has a blank peelable nametag in hand, except Cam, who just is wearing one on the outside of his jeans pocket reading "Concerto".

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He writes "Pharaoh" on his. 

"I guess we'd tell Sarenrae that we've made contact with all these other universes and if there are lots of secret goodies reserved for the forces of good then it might be good to know about them. More formally than that, of course, but that seems like pretty much the shape of it."

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Pelape writes "Signal". "Is that likely?"

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"Doubt it, but we can hope." Belmarniss writes "Ring".

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"It would not surprise me at all if she's willing to make some clerics if that helps us - assuming one can do that with people from another world. It wouldn't surprise me if they'll take, and keep an eye on, prisoners. It'd surprise me if there's a lot more going on, I think Abadar would have told me."

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"Are you sure? He's not Good."

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"Do we... want... to be clerics?" Annie asks. She picks the nickname Glossolalia.

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"I guess it's possible he wouldn't know about them? But that limits whatever it is to something limited enough the rest of the gods aren't aware of it, which makes it unlikely they'll tell us. I... would assume you want to be a cleric if you're not going for some other kind of magic? It's pretty useful. I guess maybe some people might want to hold out until Belmarniss is ready to try for godhood but you can change who you're a cleric of even if it's very rare to."

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"I mean, like, does this get more attention and interference than we necessarily want from powerful inadequate beings, though separately we did get wizard textbooks."

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Rubelite's nametag says SPACESHIP. "If this is a cleric is the rest of me too?"

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"I have no idea. Even if all of you are wizards I don't know if that means all of you would be clerics."

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"The rest of me would be confused!"

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"I have mixed feelings about this idea since I have fourteen perfectly good gods back home and these ones are strangers who haven't impressed my local alt!" says (apparently) "Tengwa".

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"Well, maybe yous are not suited to be clerics and we should leave it to the mes."

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"I -"

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"Not you."

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"Already a cleric, evil, evil, holds elected office, needs to go home to the kids, I guess that leaves Cam's and Rirosseth?" says "Point".

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"Am I not evil, I was sort of assuming I was evil."

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"Same."

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" - what exactly did you do -"

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"Killed a lot of people who were getting in the way of the Silmarils."

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Lean. "You all need to pick nicknames - if nothing else it'll make it a lot easier for me to tell you apart."

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"Detect Alignment.  Uh, you're evil -" pointing at Rirosseth - "you're not -" pointing at Cam's, who is labelling himself Number.

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"Huh, really? Cam's evil, right?"

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"Yeah. The alignment system is not necessarily going to be tracking whatever you personally consider yourself responsible for. And there's a certain sort of - I don't swing around to good or evil whenever I change tax policy in a way that affects millions of people."

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"What am I?"

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"Me too me too!"

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He points at Rubelite - "doesn't register, probably because she's neutral but conceivably because she's not powerful enough to register, most people aren't." He points at Annie - "neutral good."

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"Not powerful enough how?"

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"Well, normal humans won't register because it's checking some combination of - what direction you're pulling the universe in and how much you're pulling. I suspect, being a spaceship, you are pulling a lot, so probably the universe doesn't just have a lot of data about which way you are pulling because you are pretty new."

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"Maybe you can't tell because most of me is not here."

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"Also possible. We could tell with Anaander, though, and I assume she didn't do very much evil with this specific body."

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"This body has never done anything but adjudicate local disputes on a boring backwater planet. I don't think I adjudicated them very evilly, either."

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"There are fewer than twenty five billion of her."

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"True. I don't think Pharasma is exactly doing math but maybe she's doing something close enough to math that Anaander is getting sunk on sheer numbers. - which would be completely fair and just," he adds to Anaander.

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"I agree that killing twenty-five billion people is twenty-five billion times as bad as killing a person."

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"Do you guys have anything to add to my summary of why we were cool with killing Anaander? Who needs a nickname, everybody needs nicknames if Promise might need to interact with the concept of you."

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"I'm called the Lord of the Radch, at home."

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"I'll be Blue."

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"Charming." Write write. "Are you sticking with 'Magic' - what about you -" she says to Cor and Mirelótë's respective Maitimos. "Rirosseth's probably a nickname enough."

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"I guess I'll be - Tirion? As the only one who still lives there?"

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"Sure." She looks at 'Magic'.

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"I am fine with my existing nickname."

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"If you say so."

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" - or you can change it, if there's something wrong with it? I'm not attached."

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"It's just kinda dumb? It isn't distinctive or aesthetic. Dunno what Number is getting at either."

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"Coming up with nicknames is actually horrible."

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Everyone else nods in firm agreement.

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"Why?"

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"Well, we're all speaking different languages, so it's a little bit of guesswork what a given name is even going to sound like to anyone else, so you're more or less just picking a word or collection of syllables that you're fond of, except I don't actually - form preferences about words. I like actual peoples' names so I guess I could pull out a baby naming book and pick one - or the list of baby names popular in my year - but I know people with all of those names, so who am I going to step on? And if I really like a baby name I am going to name an actual baby that, I'm not going to use it on a nickname for invisible speed-up fairies, I don't like very many baby names and don't care to waste them."

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" - that, except like any Noldo whose parents do not live in a cave in the woods for political reasons I had several decades in education on forming preferences about words."

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"Oh, you can't actually try at that, it'll make you miserable, just get good at guessing what the person you're talking to will think."

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" - that's what I did, yes."

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"Oh no, I didn't know that."

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"Of course not!"

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"Does anyone else feel like there aren't enough good male names -"

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Everyone else with 'male' as a category for names nods.

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"What will happen if you give them a female name, will they explode? Get confused?"

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"You can't just do that!"

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"But why not, what happens."

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" - well, people would be confused about the gender of your child, whenever you talked about them, and they would probably resent you for giving them a wrong-gender name, and people'd wonder what you meant by it... I really doubt they'd change their gender, people raised as the wrong gender still don't normally want to switch."

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"Where I'm from a lot of names have become unisex or gone from male to female over time but it's very rare for it to happen the other way."

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"Huh, any that in my time are boys' names that are girls' names now -"

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"'James' was the one that really threw me when I first heard of an actress called that, the others were things like Harper or Forest or whatever that I didn't have strongly associated in the first place."

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"There's magic to change peoples' sex? I can imagine some people wanting that, if it makes you fertile -"

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"It does! It's pretty expensive but we'll sell it to you. Can't take it while pregnant, you lose the baby. - I guess you have no reason to especially avoid that."

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" - well, people don't want to lose their babies!"

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"Right, sorry, but here it's quite Evil and that complicates policy."

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"Huh, if this had somehow become available without the attendant multiversal magic and the opportunity to be a wizard and stuff... no, probably still wouldn't have changed anything, you can't swap grey through Miolee unless you know somebody and it's not like I had a pen pal somewhere abroad..."

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"Hm?"

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"Anitam is one of the relatively rare countries in which caste is patrilineal so if I just avoid dating greys, which I'd probably do anyhow, my kids don't have to be."

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"I'd go for it, if it was affordable, Kan and I could have genetic kids."

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"I am extremely unwilling to be a woman and not just because they don't have very many rights here."

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"I've tried different bodies. Don't like them much."

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"I would not like to be a woman and they do have rights here."

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"Do not want to be a man even though they have rights up here."

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"Both are fine!"

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"What, are we just going around the room talking about how more or less cisgendered we all are, don't we have anything important to do?"

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"Pelape's got the note, when she sends that she can request a portal for her and Aitim, then we'll be making progress towards needing our dimensional transit hub."

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"Where should I tell her to put that?"

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"Are we going to use her gates instead of local ones for the whole thing?"

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"They're lower opportunity cost and waiting a week isn't a big deal for us. And if we need to close one her turnaround time should be pretty good from our perspective."

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"They might not be able to do the conditional access, in which case we'll still want a lot of the slower kind. But for a first secret gate back to your world I think we should use one of hers; I can't do a permanent one until tomorrow anyway. There's a place accessible from the palace where we do gates and teleportation circles; I can show you there."

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"It's a good place for a permanent one too?"

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"It's a good place for a very constrained permanent one for us to go back and forth; one with a bigger audience should go in the thing Cam's building."

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"Where's that going to go? I'm expecting to need to add a reservoir - and a water treatment setup which I will double check with Pelape - and that's going to need some footprint even if the building's pretty vertically inclined."

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"Ten miles from the heart of Sothis it's empty desert. Should be plenty of space."

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"Sand? Of the dune-forming type?"

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"Yes."

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"Alrighty."

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"Before you dive back into that you were going to give me and Annie computers like that."

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"Oh right. Catch."

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"Thank you."

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"If we're done contacting new planes can you message my husband, let him know that we're not dead and have good prospects of being home safe soon -"

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"Sure."

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"Lemme give you my address, I still live with my folks."

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"Alive. Home soon. In another dimension, all's well, buy an airport. Also present Pelape Milath - and then her address I guess -"

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"500 Rose Stadium Towers, Lina."

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"Buy an airport?" he says incredulously, but Sends this. 

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"We'd have to borrow a ton of money from family but I think it's worth it."

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"Will he pick a good airport on no further information? I guess 'in another dimension' is suggestive."

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"Yeah, it's clearly an airport that will need retrofitting for interdimensional aliens. Also if we're really back tomorrow all he'll have time to do is get started on securing the financing."

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"Am I the mail service? We don't know how long I can do that."

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"Should we test whether other daeva are summonable, then?"

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"After we check whether they can go home if they want from here yes."

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"I do still have a Gate today, if we don't want to wait for Harmony on that one."

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"You can't do anything but a gate with it at this point, right? Yeah, let's see if you can reach my house. Do you need a picture or anything?"

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"Yes. Or a good enough description, but a picture's probably fastest."

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Cam has a picture of his house handy.

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"Who wants to take a field trip to the place where local teleportation magic works?"

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"I'll come."

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"Is this also where I'll leave from to go visit Axis -"

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"Yeah."

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Then he will come too.

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"You're going to Axis?"

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"There is a person back in my world who I need to make a difficult request of, which will oblige him to be willing to sacrifice a lot for faraway strangers, and he has an alt here, and I think meeting the alt might be a promising way to get him interested in this."

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"Ah, not so much the tourism. ...If you have time and happen to see anybody who looks like the same kinda thing as me can you ask them if they died when they were a baby or not?"

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"Definitely."

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"Thanks."

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And he can walk whoever wants to watch down to the place where people from the palace access magical transit, and Gate from there to Cam's house.

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There's the house, on its tiny planetoid with highly visible curvature.

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" - cool. Enough of a test for you?"

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"Yeah, I'll write people who wouldn't want to stay but also wouldn't miss summonses if there were weird side effects. Amriac'll probably want to hang out with all the Macalaurës. I gave Valinor the Library of - uh, I gave them a bunch of media and told them how to send commentary and the curators'll have found them and their stuff by now, I haven't talked to her in a while but she'd be all over Elf music."

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"Great. Can you check for Ingwes in any of the universes we know of - minus the fairy one I guess - so I can be more thorough here -"

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Cam accumulates a handful of little Ingwës.

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"- huh. All right. Pretty sure I can swing this, then."

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"What about that is promising?"

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"If there's a bunch of him there's likelier to be a helpful him, and he's likelier to want to get off on a good foot with the rest of the universe."

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"Thanks for doing this."

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"Just doing my job."

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" - are you?"

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" - my job is to do and enable as many important things as I can."

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" - huh."

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Cam writes to Amriac and sets about checking his mail for a response. "Summoning might ignore your beetle shell like Promise's gates do," he remarks.

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"Worth checking. - I am very annoyed how many things ignore my beetle shell but I guess it says unambiguously good things about our odds against the beetle."

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"Promise and whatever nonsense dumped us here, so far? Am I forgetting anything?"

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"Just those, but two days ago I thought it was totally impossible for anything to affect."

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"My intuition is to do with none of us traveling spatially through the beetle shell but I guess local teleportation and plane shifts also don't and now that I think about it I'm not sure if I expect the shell to extend underground."

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"It does! And the effect works on divinations as well as on teleportation and plane shifts and so on."

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"But only in one direction, in that case."

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"We figured out a workaround for scrying out, in my grandfather's day."

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"What is it?"

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"Paired crystal balls, one in and one dug into a crack in the shell, set up to behave identically."

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"Pricey."

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"Summoning could interact with your afterlife setup. I don't know whether to expect that or not, maybe it would only kick in if somebody got eaten by the Abyss or won't interfere at all, but where I'm from if you're a summoner you become a daeva when you die."

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"Got any trustworthy folks who ping evil?"

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"One or two but they're working on it, they shouldn't by the time they die."

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"Got any trustworthy folks who don't like where they're set up to go - like, it'd split them up from people anyway, say - and aren't working on that very fast?"

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" - could talk Hagan around, probably."

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"I could also try it, but if I die of old age or under circumstances where no one will resurrect me, Nirvana might actually be a good vantage point and I might be able to nudge over from chaos in the relevant time frame. ...Rubelite'd do it. Can daeva have kids?"

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"Not in the sense Pelape'd require."

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"Might fuck with something of Annie's, Mirelótë's sorted, Cor's got powers to mess with, I think Promise would have mentioned if her lifespan was such that we shouldn't expect her to be around long while she's fast and we're not, so Rubelite's it."

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"Should I send for her?"

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"Yeah, dunno if I have the Message range."

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A servant heads off to do this.

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Cam gets a response from Amriac. "That's a lot of exclamation marks. She says that she demands Masaharta 'and all his weird string instruments, what even are those' be served to her on a silver platter. I think she's joking but if this is the sort of joke one shouldn't make around princes I can find someone else."

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"I think he'll like her. If she's rude to him in public the guards might shove her around, I don't know how offended to expect her to be."

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"Uh, her general amiability is probably correlated with how much petty return fire she can issue, how tight do you want me to design this binding on subjects like 'can she put glitter in their hair'?"

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Sigh. "That seems fine."

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"She'll be delighted." He fiddles with a paragraph of legalese on his computer till he has it how he likes it. "I can't actually design a binding to prevent her from doing anything as specific as hitting on Masaharta if I let her talk at all, but should I advise her against? I don't know how your rules apply to guaranteed infertile centuries-old daeva."

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"I think it is fine for anyone who wants to to have sex with infertile centuries-old daeva. At least for any men who want to."

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"Amriac has not been to med school and most likely lacks my theoretical ability to impregnate somebody at forty paces without missing and giving them an ectopic, but noted."

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"What an interesting med school that must be."

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"I was bored and took a lot of electives but that class was mostly about drug delivery, you need aim for that."

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"Are there humans around to practice on or is it all with the mindless bodies?"

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"All with those, no humans to be had unless you get a summon for it and people prefer angels for medical applications."

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"When they learn magic there might be humans. - I'm not quite sure if you can get enough magic if you start out indestructible, but there might be."

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"Oh?"

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"Miracle can apparently do it. Wish probably can too. And I sort of want to test less powerful spells - it seems possible that you could do it with just Restoration or something -"

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"...okay, that might be a problem. It's a nice place to live at the moment and most people would be very nice to whoever they got but there's billions of us."

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"It seems unavoidable but maybe we can - buy ourselves a little time to think about whether there's anything to be done."

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"I think it might be important to know whether those spells can fork people."

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"- good question."

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"They... don't locally, I think I'd have heard of that, I think if you've got two people trying to true resurrect the same target then whoever gets the spell cast first wins outright and the second person gets spell failure. But locally there's a soul somewhere in the afterlives to yank. We should get Promise to ask that fairy what it was like to be dead. We should try resurrecting daeva who used to be human. We should try resurrecting Amentans, a dead Anaander body, Annie, somebody Cor knows who died in a magic accident and was annihilated, both kinds of Elves in various death-related conditions, whatever Promise is, and Andalites. Twice."

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"I think what we're doing, with Miracle, isn't a proper resurrection. It's just asking Abadar to make the body stop being magically not a person. So it might work even if the person wasn't dead, if Abadar felt like helping with that. - we should also try all of the same things with Wish."

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"Good thing you have a warehouse full of diamonds."

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"Can you skip the experiments with Miracle and just ask Abadar what he'd do, or what would happen if he tried?"

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"I can but he might not know without trying."

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"So we need examples of all these classes of experiment that would be good to have around, which probably isn't a huge additional constraint except insofar as most people probably don't want to fork."

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"It sounds kind of fun."

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"Then maybe we will wind up with an even more ridiculous number of you. If you fork, who's the pharaoh?"

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"Whoever has the cleric levels, presumably. If we both do then I think we're just the pharaoh in more bodies. - I guess if one takes this too far they end up Anaander."

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"She seems to think that is not her problem but why take that risk."

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"I am in several bodies and I am fine!" says Rubelite. "I am sorry that took me so long. I fell down the stairs."

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"D'you want healing -"

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"I'm okay! You want me to summon Cam's friend?"

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"You have the fewest contraindications."

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"Okay!"

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Cam makes a circle for Amriac and shows her where to fill in.

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Which she does -

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And here's Amriac!

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"Nice to meet you!"

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"Hi! Where's the alternate universe Macalaurë, I can't read any of his sheet music, even if she can I didn't get it with the summon -"

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"I cannot read Osirian sheet music!"

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"You have a... lot... of other languages though."

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"Yes! I do not know if they will be useful to you."

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"Can't hurt, I guess. Anyway where is he, hopefully well away from the tragic music allergy -"

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"Masaharta is upstairs. We can head back now, if you'd like."

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"Mm-hm!"

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So they do this. 

 

"Amriac, this is Prince Masaharta."

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"I can't keep track of all the nonsense going on, should I know her -"

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"Oh, no, you'll never have heard of me because Cam has had other things on his mind, I'm just here as a summoning experiment, I don't take randoms and won't mind if something weird happens and I can't any more - what," she materializes a weird citole in her hand and waves it at him, "is this supposed to sound like, you don't have recordings and I couldn't figure it out in the time I had before the summon came - mind, that was only a few minutes, but it just doesn't sound right if I play it like -" She strums it. "It's not supposed to be like that, is it, there's some trick to it -"

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He glances, bewildered, at his brother. " - but -"

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" - hadn't noticed, promise, I don't pay very close attention to your girls -"

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" - that's really bizarre. Get Amina," he says to a servant, and then takes the citole and demonstrates it.

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"Ohhh, I get it. Who's Amina?"

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"You. I think. I don't know for sure how all of this works but you speak just like her and she loves the instruments, too - designs a bunch of her own -"

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"Like this?" she says, materializing a colorful metal ball. It starts whistling as it falls into her hand and the chord changes when she covers some of it with her palm.

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" - that's amazing. How does it work -"

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"I'm making air in the right compartments at the right pressure," she says, playing through an etude.

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"Making - oh, with your magic. I don't think I could play it, then."

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"It's kind of niche. I can make stuff you can play, though, 'specially if you don't have electricity."

Amina turns up. "- who's this? Are people appearing through the dome again, do we have to go back to the winter palace -"

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"No! But this is Amriac, and I think you should meet her."

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"- what is that?" asks Amina.

"Sphereflute. You can't play it. I don't mean you can't borrow it, here, take it," she hands it over, "just you actually can't, needs magic."

"Boo. This isn't why you called me over, is it, to hold a flute I can't play -"

"I can make other things, that's just the magnum opus."

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"She talks just like you. And spends her time inventing weird magical instruments. I think you're - the same thing as the pharaoh and all the pharaoh-alternates."

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"Huh," they say at the same time, and then Amriac says, "Teach me to read local sheet music."

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He looks a little taken-aback to be addressed in this fashion.

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Amina decides she was probably talking to her. "Okay, uh, do you want to come back to my room, I can ask Hadjara not to let the kids in for a bit -"

"You have kids?"

"...yes, that'll happen if you -"

"I mean I know how humans have kids, I've just never seen one in person."

"You've never seen a kid?"

"No! Except on TV. They're hard to come by in Hell!"

"...don't call it Hell."

"Whatever, lemme meet your kids. Do they talk?"

"The older one does."

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"Have fun."

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" - can I?"

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" - well, she's not a girl, she's a daeva, don't care."

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He will follow the two of them off.

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"What's he on about, 'not a girl' -"

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"Uh, it's the not having kids thing. If you can't have kids anyway you can do whatever you want, right, there are more rules if you can."

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"...I'm not a vocalist so the amount of human culture I've picked up by stealing their music is pretty limited."

"Since you can't get pregnant you don't need a whole setup where you make sure your kids will be fed before you have real sex," Amina says.

"Fed? If I wound up with a kid through some kind of shenanigan that'd be the least of my worries, I'd let somebody who's into that kind of thing have it -"

"...okay... well... you can't so it doesn't matter."

"It doesn't mean I'm not a girl. Apart from the wings I'm perfectly humanesque."

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"I don't think he meant to express any opinions about how you're shaped."

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"People who summon daeva sometimes call 'em 'it', don't think we're quite people -"

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"If it is important to you to be treated like a human woman we can do that, means I can't be alone with you and so on but I'm sure we can get people to hang around and supervise playing with the instruments."

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"...I'm not a human woman, I'm a demon woman."

"Don't say 'demon'."

"...I'm a daeva woman, whatever."

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"And you do not want to be treated like a human woman?"

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"If that means something stupid to do with how pregnant I can't get?"

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"It kind of does."

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"I don't want to be treated stupidly or like some kind of genderless object. I know a de- a daeva who went through a period of asserting that his gender was the key of D major but this is no longer fashionable and was never popular, we have the same genders as everyone else. And furthermore I can't have kids and wouldn't want to."

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"Okay."

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In Amina's room she is delighted to learn to read Golarion's sheet music conventions and when she has an overview of that she puts on a Macalaurë composition for comparison.

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"How're you doing that -"

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"Playing the song? My computer hooks up to this little speaker in my pendant, it's not great sound quality but I dunno if Amina wants big hi-fi installations in here."

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"It's amazing."

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"Oh, yeah, he's really something. What've you got? You're his alt, it's probably cool."

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He is transfixed. 

"I mean, I'm not bad, but I wouldn't have thought of half that. ...I guess someday I would've but I bet it'd be long after I died."

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"Sure, he's thousands of years old, he's an Elf."

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"Damn. Well, I'm not an Elf, but I can show you stuff anyway if you want."

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"I want!"

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Then he can perform some of his more impressive music! He is not as good as the thousands of years old Elf. As he's very good for a human he's never had occasion to be sad about this before.

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Amriac is reasonably entertained anyway and accompanies him on various random instruments that rather start to accumulate on Amina's floor, practicing reading along with the sheet music. Eventually she settles on electric cello and finishes out the piece on that.

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That's amazing. He wants to hear more. Of...all those things, actually. Maybe he can sing and play some more.

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Amina suggests things, on the grounds that her taste may be predictive, and they can all have a delightfully musical time.

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Alternate universe versions of other people are great. (Alternate universe versions of yourself are upsetting.)

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"Abadar says that resurrection spells won't work on people who aren't from the local soul system. He doesn't know what we'll be able to do with Miracle and a body, it might depend on what kind of soul their universe has."

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"Okay, so, trial resurrect every kind of person twice - put in a query about that in the letter to Promise -" says Belmarniss, flipping through her notebook, "ask her if she'll do gates for the dimensional port dealie, what else is pending - trying to find that one bridge world of Cor's so he can get back to his colony and maybe move it somewhere else, I guess?"

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"Mmhm, letter's almost done."

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"Is there a good place to put it? It's not like the place it is now is awful, we're on, like, a separate continent."

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"If you're going to move it better to do it before you're too dug in, yeah?"

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"Yeah but I'm not going to uproot nearly a billion people from a perfectly good continent because I don't want to share a planet with my ex, I'm not twelve. It'd have to be a nicer place."

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"Amentans are gonna want unoccupied planets in their universe. There are unoccupied planets here - you'd probably have our afterlives, which only arguably beat not having afterlives -"

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"Plus our kind of magic doesn't work here, and it's one thing to have to cut way down on it and be out my chicken recipe and another thing to not have it even for emergencies. I suppose if I'm going to have that as a criterion I ought to bop around everywhere to check. Maybe there's a usable planet in our original world, or the one the empty planet's in, or a daeva can make one in one of those worlds."

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"You could find someone to do that, yeah."

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"Kind of feel like the afterlife thing should get more weight but maybe we're hoping we'll be able to fix that ourselves eventually no matter what the local universe has to say about it."

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"Is there a good afterlife solution on the table, though. Yours is - as you pointed out - probably better than nonexistence but not by a very motivating amount."

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"It'd be better if resurrection worked on old age - oh, that's another thing we should try, can you resurrect someone dead of old age if you have a young body on hand for them or is that still not allowed - and if you had good throughput on resurrection. Without that not so much."

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"I mean, most of the afterlives beat not existing."

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"But the ones that don't are - infinite torture, right, that seems much worse."

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"Not infinite, typically, eventually you get eaten and then you're gone."

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"What I'd like to do is get my Valar on the scene - and get them to go talk sense into all the other Valar - and see what they can do about it."

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"And they can probably do more for civilizations outside the - field of influence - of the local gods."

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"It might take them a while, they have a much easier time acting in places they've been invested in long term."

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"Huh. So should we maybe be thinking about having future colonies and so on be in your world?"

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"Oh, maybe, we have space, but it's a little more local than 'the entire world', more solar system and smaller scales."

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"Maybe everybody should settle in my world and become daeva. No aliens, easy terraforming."

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" - I'm pretty persuaded."

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"I mean, it might for whatever reason not work on non-natives."

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"Hey," says Rubelite to Anaander, "you can stop spying on everyone because you can have daeva make all the flerghenti precursors and stuff like that and then go find where they are instead."

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"We could!"

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"...if you go home, I guess."

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"I'm not as pitiable as you about it so I don't know if they'll go for it."

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"Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm."

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Pelape nudges Cam, gets a paper copy of the letter to Promise, and lays it out page by page near the site of the gate.

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"Lohte, she says yous are bad at nicknames, don't you find that a terrible handicap?"

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"Bad at - remembering them? That's actually pretty surprising -"

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"No, at coming up with them for yourselves. You can't even pick just one and keep it! You have to have lots!"

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"Oh, I have an advisor who made me a list of a couple hundred to cycle through."

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"I see. So the mes did all pick nicknames, and they're all safe by my standard and yours both, is it safe for me to refer to them as individuals rather than being nebulous about it? Some of the yous' nicknames are safe for me but not for you and the letter writer has kindly assigned them new ones."

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"Yes, please please tell me all about them."

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"The me's are Signal - she wrote the letter - Spaceship, Concerto, Tengwa, Ring, Point, and Glossolalia. Ring is the one from the world they're all in now. Yous are Blue, Number, Magic, and Tirion, those being the ones who safely if not cleverly named themselves, and Fraction, Jurisprudence, and Statue, those being the one Signal renamed for this purpose because they're too well known by their usual labels. Jursiprudence and Fraction are going by their titles with me and Signal's not sure that's safe for you, and she thinks Statue's just had hers too long. Jurisprudence is the native.

"Apparently Magic and Fraction are evil in a way which may or may not be a matter of ongoing concern, Signal's not sure how to predict them going forward, and Statue registers as evil to evil-detecting spells that Ring's world has but is not ongoingly concerning. Fraction's problem is that she killed twenty five billion people in a fit of temper. She's the one they were okay with killing, but mostly not because of that - she has millions of bodies spread across hundreds of planets back in her world and they're not sure it'd be safe in an infosec sense to send this one back to join the rest, plus insofar as this one has learned things they'd like the whole of her to know they could store that knowledge in a separate device so that if they decided to kidnap a second one of her bodies to have around instead of just doing without, she'd be caught up. She doesn't consider any single body very important."

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"Huh. ...that's a lot of people."

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"The ones of us or the twenty-five billion?"

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"Twenty five billion. There aren't that many of us in the whole world."

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"Don't know how many my world has. Signal says it was a few entire planets."

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"Wow.

What sort of things are they working on, did they say?"

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"Before they found us they also found another world with another human me who is very busy and a you who is a quadrupedal furry alien in military prison that resembles a park. They have a meeting with the me in her next available scheduling block. They want to resettle the evacuated population of Point's homeworld if there's a better place to put them than a continent on Magic's planet where they are now, find a place for the Amentans to have a ton of kids - Blue and Signal's species really likes babies - revamp the afterlife situation to involve less torture and more resurrection, get everyone to the post-scarcity economy that Tengwa and Concerto's worlds both already enjoy, and turn Spaceship into a different kind of spaceship."

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"It sounds like so much fun."

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"Yeah. Any joy on getting ahold of my entanglement?"

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"Sent a messenger. Won't be back for a couple more sleeps, though."

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"How's your grandmother settling in, sooner or later I want to figure out how to square with her..."

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"She seems very melancholy. I can pass along whatever you'd like, though."

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"Well, you can tell her I don't much care for the standard quick things... I'll look at art if she does any?"

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"She can weave you something, she was reportedly very good at that."

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"I suppose if it's good enough to count as art I can't wear it around, can I, I was thinking it's about time I made myself a new dress - I guess I can still outsource it and it'll count as a favor but not as art -"

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"She could make you a dress that isn't pretty enough to be art, if you want that."

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"I would. It's probably not a whole life's worth though."

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"That and some nice tapestries for your room, then."

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"No rush."

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"They do take a while."

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"Is there any fun you want to have by proxy with all the interdimensional stuff?"

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"At minimum it seems like we could maybe equip ourselves to be allies they couldn't have been expected to have, in case they run into some trouble."

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"They want me to do a bunch of gates for them and Signal also wants to know if I might be able to use the names of the evil gods."

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"- huh. Do you think you would be?"

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"Well, she's worried that they might not be their real names - I can't know till I have them identified more specifically than 'some evil god', though I might not have to actually meet them - and it's possible they're just not the right kind of thing at all, but it seems plausible."

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"That'd be pretty impressive. And worth making our existence widely known."

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"That doesn't even seem like it'd be necessary, I'm not your sort of thing. I am going to tell her they have to neutralize the knifewing, who had me before I came here, really thoroughly before I go vassalizing any gods."

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" - makes sense. Sounds achievable, too, with their abilities."

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"Probably. But very dangerous. Concerto can't just conjure up something with his name on it, it'll never have been written."

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"If you just manage to incapacitate him and dump him very very far from any people you could maybe do without the name. I guess it's even riskier."

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"And if he escaped he could still hurt me."

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Nod. "But if he's in a different universe which doesn't have dimensional transit I'd expect that to be very hard."

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"I don't know him to be a sorcerer but he certainly could be."

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"Doesn't it not work some places?"

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"It doesn't seem to work here at full size - I haven't looked into any edge cases - and it isn't understood to work in the mortal world people usually access from my world at all, but it did work in Ring's world."

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"I guess we'll collect more data on that in the course of doing everything else we might want to do. Do they want to leverage the option of speeding up for anything?"

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"Signal didn't mention it but if it can be done more conveniently I bet they will."

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"They'd have to stay far away from anyone with the same name but it'd be easy enough to do with debt."

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"Do you suppose taking a likeness of somebody for them to check so they aren't surprised is safe?"

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"I'd expect so but I don't know for sure."

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"I mean, they still... know what you look like... I'm not sure how to puzzle it out without trying it."

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"I think knowing that I exist somewhere and am named what I'm named isn't enough. If you read a book, the author's name isn't entanglement unless you meet them."

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"You know this how?"

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"My father ill-advisedly read books, once he learned of their existence! Then we had to go track them down."

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Giggle. "And do what with the authors?"

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"We left things in his house!"

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"That helps with debt but not with writing their name down..."

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"Father didn't see the authors, so the names didn't hurt him."

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"What'll happen if he meets one who was dead when he read the book?"

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"I have no idea! Maybe we should get someone not entangled with any courts so it's safer to run these experiments."

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"Well, if we resurrect my entanglement she'll hopefully meet that description but I don't know if I should expect her to be very cooperative."

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"Maybe with sufficiently simple instructions."

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"Oh, I think she's probably competent to follow simple instructions, I just doubt she'll want to help."

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"I suspect I could talk her into it eventually."

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"Is that a technically-not-inaccurate euphemism?"

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- headshake. "All this nonsense around that could hurt us really badly if it cared to, we can't do anything that'll make anyone - feel obliged or invited or inspired to intervene. I suspect I can talk to her, because I am good at that."

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"Just checking."

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Interested parties can get lessons in arcane magic from the person who tutors royalty in it. 

 

 

Arcane magic is done by learning spells, and spells are complicated to follow and to hold in your mind; everyone develops a different shorthand for them, and even the shorthand can stretch several pages for a simple spell. Here's a longform account of a very simple spell; it'll take hours to get through, and probably weeks to be fluent with.

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"You might actually have better luck with mine? Since you're all me. That'll cut your learning curve down a fair bit if you don't have to do as much translation work in your heads to get your first cantrips down. But the translation spell isn't your friend there."

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"Well, start with me, then, I guess."

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"- Promise says," says Pelape, as she flips through a letter that appeared a moment ago on the floor, "that her system's learnable too."

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"Maybe those of us relying on translation spells should switch tacks then?"

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"That makes sense - I can pick up local languages pretty fast, Annie knows them already, I'm not sure about Rubelite -"

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"It will not take me very long especially if Cam can format convert written corpuses into this server we have now for me and Anaander! Don't worry, it's partitioned really well."

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"And Cor and Pelape and if he's ever less busy Cam and possibly Bella depending on her priorities can do Promise's thing."

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Bells accordingly divide into clumps.

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"None of you want magic?"

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"Mirelótë'll have a nice Quendi-friendly explanation I can pick up very fast."

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"I want magic!"

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"Still a no."

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"Doesn't really seem like my comparative advantage here."

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"Maybe some other time."

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Sigh. "Fair enough."

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"Is this a surprise? Did you pursue magic before a lot of it fell on your head in the form of a crown?"

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"I took classes in it! I admittedly took classes in lots of things, though."

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"I didn't acquire any magic on purpose."

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"Your magic is kinda horrible."

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"That isn't why, though, the university had a requirement that if you wanted to get access to their artifacts you had to let somebody who'd touched the mind-reading one in range."

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"Ew."

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"Were you doing something you didn't want them to know about?"

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"...what? No, why is that your first guess?"

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"Why did they even have that policy?"

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"They wanted to screen people for intent to steal the artifacts, I think was the ostensible reason? The only reason I could attend the school at all was that the mindreaders couldn't stop shouting curse words at the top of their lungs, it was pretty easy to keep out of their way under normal circumstances."

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"There are so many easier ways to stop people stealing things. Unless they're teleportation artifacts, I guess."

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"They did have one of those. The side effect was awful though."

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"What?"

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"...this was hundreds of years ago and none of my effects do memory. Uh, maybe it was the one where you couldn't use written language any more, or the one that made touching something very common... water?... really painful, or the one that made you need to sleep for most of every day. ...no, I think the sleep one was the one that let you identify artifacts without touching them, now that I think about it."

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"Huh."

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"Magic sounds neat and everything, it's just that there are lots of other people who can pick it up."

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"There are actually some casters whose abilities depend on their charisma rather than their intelligence or wisdom but sadly they're all innate kinds of magic."

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"That would be more tempting."

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"Sorcerers are usually like that but I'm a weird kind, all cunning no splendor."

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"Summoning uses some of that skillset! And was one of my favorite things when I was learning magic."

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" - that sounds fun. How does it work?"

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"You still have to learn the spells the normal way but then you get to talk to people and convince them to do whatever it is you wanted them for. Probably you want to learn Cam's style of summoning, it'll be faster to learn and more powerful to use."

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"Uh-huh. It's not going to be blue, though. - maybe convincing them to make planets will be blue."

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"Why shouldn't it be blue?"

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"Making stuff isn't blue and ensuring that sets of rules are appropriately thorough and complied-with isn't blue and one obvious thing people will want them on hand for is combat operations and that has to be grey."

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"The daeva aren't grey, I don't think you can use them in combat operations unless your plan is to just dare everyone else to do anything about it - in which case why bother making sure the summoners are."

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"Some of them'll be grey soon enough if summoners become daeva."

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"I think you'll have to rework everything to do with expected population, including greys-only combat treaties, if you make some of your population indestructible. Unless, again, you're just daring everyone to do something about it."

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"That is definitely not what I would prefer we do about it but it's going to take some finesse to make sure no one does.The extra planets should help a lot."

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"Anyway, until there are Amentan daeva you could probably make a case for talking to them being diplomacy."

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"I guess everyone who didn't buy an airport will be pretty eager to get in on all this magic and might be on board with that."

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"Speaking of airports, unless you want this thing detailed down to the potted plants I have it specced out now, three cheers for computer aided design and this nifty utility that simulates pedestrian traffic flow. Was I at some point going to explain IUDs to some people?"

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"Yes! I can have them brought in now."

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"...here, or do you have someplace slightly more like a lecture hall?"

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"Couple rooms over. It's not all that differently designed but it's bigger. While they're on their way I might have...advice for going over well, culturally?"

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"...okay, hit me."

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"There are lots of countries that are sexually liberal and make the math work out with poisons and infanticide, in those countries this'll just make the math work out without that and it'll be great. Maybe Osirion will eventually slide down that road but no one wants it to, and no one's going to be eager to shove it. But there are problems which people care about which it solves, like poor hardworking city families with more kids than they can afford to feed and minor nobility splitting and splitting their inheritances or shoving all their excess kids into dangerous occupations. Your - ideal introductory case here - is a harmonious family with four kids who can't care for and educate and marry a fifth or sixth. And then we can add some edge cases, like obviously prostitutes should have access so they don't kill their kids, but that can't be the public face of the thing."

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"Okay."

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Then he can shoo lots of church people into the room for the talk.

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Cam puts up a big screen, light-projected like his handheld computer. "Hi," he tells the audience, "my name is Cam. What've you all been told about what you're doing here?"

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"You're a visitor from another planet. That planet has technology that enables women to avoid pregnancy, and there is interest in introducing it in Osirion so that family sizes can be smaller."

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"That's correct. There's also the equivalent for men - and more than the one I have a presentation about for women, but this is I think the best combination of reliability, ease of introduction, low-maintenance, etcetera. It's called an IUD, which in my native language stands for 'intrauterine device' but has been rendered into its own word over time." Slide. "Looks like this. Inserted into the uterus like so," slide, "it's nearly one hundred percent effective at preventing conception - until it's removed, whereupon fertility is immediately restored. Side effects include cramping, spotty bleeding, and rarer things -" Slide, list, he reads it out. "Questions at this point?"

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Do women insert it themselves? How long does it last? Does it interfere with marital relations? In the very rare cases where it causes lasting problems, are they the sort a Cure spell handles?

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"No, they don't do it themselves, I'm going to tell you guys how. If you'd like to, say, rethink the gender balance of this group for that reason, I'll wait. Fifteen years. Very rarely someone will claim he can feel the string and if that bothers your patients you can trim it for them. I am not intimately familiar with the capabilities of your magic but I believe it handles wounds and infections both, am I right?"

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It does do this! They will probably only have women do these surgeries but their supervisors should still know about how everything works. 

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Sure. So here is a speculum and here is what petroleum jelly is for and so on and so forth.

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His audience is uncomfortable but attentive.

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And that is his how-to presentation. He recommends based on historical experience with other human populations that they make these available without requiring husband (or father) consent, "but obviously that's a nonbinding recommendation, I'll provide all the supplies anyway."

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The Council will probably figure that out.

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"Questions?"

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Some technical ones!

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He can answer these no problem.

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Then that is all. They are very excited, really, once they get over how it's weird.

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"Cool. Let me get you starter packs of everything to get you underway on priority patients who have four kids under five and a laid-up husband or what have you, but I'll fill up a warehouse once I'm pointed at one." Everybody gets a totebag with a copy of the presentation and a few procedures' worth of supplies.

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Everyone is awed.

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"If you want any other souvenirs ask me quick before another project falls in my lap."

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They are mostly too shy to do this but one person asks how much things cost.

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"I do not at this time have a price sheet and in fact am not familiar with your currency, I'm just handing stuff out."

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- well in that case could he have a copy of his wife's wedding jewelry, it was all destroyed in a fire.

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Clink. "Voilà."

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He is so impressed. And so delighted. 

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"Have a lovely day, everybody!"