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He holds Leareth while Melody gives him back his Mindspeech and his mage-sight. Distracts him with conversation about the prevalence of Gifts in Velgarth. 

He is thinking about Leareth, about how much he knows, about how many questions he went out and found the answers to himself because it might be relevant, might open the door to a better world. He wants him. It's barely even distracting anymore but he wants him. Advise them to go somewhere else, Findekáno said about Vanyel and Stef, but of course this Maitimo cannot have no matter where he goes. 

If he hadn't gotten Leareth tortured for years - 

- probably still couldn't -

His Thoughtsensing amulet will keep this train of thought safely away where Leareth cannot see it. 

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(Unfortunately, it happens that Maitimo's amulet has been broken for the last several weeks. Nobody has pointed this out to him because Vanyel doesn't tend to go around trying to read people's minds, and in fact none of the other Quendi shield and it's distracting and awful so he tends to keep his Thoughtsensing put away.) 

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Leareth doesn't notice right away, but when he does, he goes quiet for a while. This isn't that noticeable externally; he's been losing the thread of the conversation a lot, having things done to his head is distracting.

It's - wow - it's making him want to reevaluate almost everything about the last few months, turn the past from side to side and look at it under this new light - but he really shouldn't do that now, and so the next time Maitimo asks him a question, he folds away his newly-restored Thoughtsensing and then does his best to focus and answer. 

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He thanks Melody. 

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Leareth is going to have a hard time concentrating on anything that isn't - that - for the next while. Ideally he could go out for a walk by himself or something, but as usual he's exhausted after seeing Melody, and he can barely keep his eyes open. 

He doesn't know what to say about the actual things he picked up, yet, he needs to wrap his mind around - all of it, first, but probably he should say something about the broken amulet. It's visible to mage-sight too. Maybe he'll...just mention that part. 

"Maitimo?" he says, drowsily. 

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"Sleep song?"

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"Would like that...also you should have Vanyel look at your amulet, I think it might be damaged..." He is, conveniently, too tired to answer a lot of questions about how he noticed this. 

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" - huh! Okay." And he sings him to sleep and tries to think about nothing but where and when it might've been damaged, while he does that.

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And Leareth falls asleep in Maitimo's arms, like he has a very large number of times before, except this time he's thinking, vaguely and privately, that it must be kind of frustrating for Maitimo, always being there for anything Leareth needs, but without getting to have the things he wants. 

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He asks Vanyel to take a look at the artifact once Leareth is soundly asleep. 

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"Oh, this is easy to fix - the link with the Arda artifact powering it just got disrupted. Not sure by what, could be one of the times we Gated, or could be something else." Vanyel can set it right for him in a couple of minutes. 

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"Thank you. I'm glad he has his thoughtsensing back but I don't actually want him - learning about whatever went wrong with the Gate to Velgarth, or something - I don't think he's ready yet -"

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Sigh. "No, I agree, that makes sense. Did it seem to help, him getting some of his Gifts back?" 

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"He was so wiped out by the time Melody was finished, I'm not sure yet. But I think it will."

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Nod. "I hope so." 

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Leareth wakes up, and goes for a walk, and still has no idea what to do. He should talk to Maitimo about it, obviously, but - he doesn't know what to say, he doesn't even know what to feel about it yet, and he...wants to put it off until he does. On some level he's worried Maitimo is going to be angry that he snooped, and that he didn't say anything right away. 

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He comes by in the midmorning, with food. "Vanyel was able to fix the artifact; the connection to the power source got disrupted, we think."

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"Oh. That makes sense." Aaaaaand now would be a perfect moment to say something, except that he is definitely not going to do that. 

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He sits down next to him and holds out his arm so Leareth can lean into it, if he'd like to. "These're the kind of waffles you like."

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"Thank you." Leareth hesitates for a moment before leaning into Maitimo's arms - he's pretty sure he normally would and he doesn't want Maitimo to think he's angry with him or something. 

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"Vanyel asked me how you did the amulet, at one point - maybe now that you have your mage-sight back you could help him out with research sometimes, if you wanted."

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–He tenses up, involuntarily. 

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"  - sorry. You certainly do not have to. We don't need anything from you, we aren't going to need anything from you."

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"I would like to help. I - just..." He is so goddamned tired of being pointlessly stressed about Vanyel's existence. 

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"Is it something you would want to ask Melody for help with?"

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Leareth shivers. He puts his head down on Maitimo's shoulder (and then feels quietly weird about it, wondering if Maitimo is currently frustrated about wanting things that he thinks he can't have.) 

"I would, I think? I worry it would be uncomfortable for her, since she - knows him so well." 

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Hug. "Mmhmm. At some point I think she meant to go back to Valdemar and trade off with a different Mindhealer but it might not be soon."

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"Mmm." Leareth picks at his waffles for a minute in silence. "I - wanted to ask him to look at my immortality setup. Since I cannot do that. It would...really help...if I were not scared of him for stupid reasons." 

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"Are you worried about your immortality setup?"

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"To some extent. I do not think that Melkor could have interfered with it, but it is something he threatened he was able to do, in some of the iterations of trying to convince me to work for him. And - it would just take a weight from my mind, to know for sure." 

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Fervent nod. "It will work from Arda in general, right?"

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"Yes. I checked that soon after my arrival." 

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"Would you be reborn here or there - and how does that work exactly, would somebody get pregnant without expecting to?" Shiver.

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Leareth blinks at him. "...Oh, no. I do not come back as a baby, that would not really work..." He trails off, because Maitimo seems sort of uncomfortable and that happens so rarely and he has no idea what to do. 

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His face is back to pleasantly affectionate almost immediately but he does not ask any followup questions. "Okay. Just - if anything bad happened it occurs to me, perhaps belatedly, it'd be good to know where to look for you, and how long to wait -"

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Leareth is kind of stressed and it's making it hard to say words, but he takes a deep breath and tries anyway. "I cannot really say where, at this point it could be anywhere in Velgarth. And, a few months? I would try to return to the north and then send a message–"

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"Okay." Hug. "Sorry for bringing it up. We're not going to let anything happen to you."

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"I know." Leareth tries to relax into the hug. "I - should maybe have - told you about this sooner - when I was talking about the, the things I'd done..." 

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"I surmised that you had done lots of awful things including probably some I'd failed to think of because of growing up in paradise. I'm not upset with you about it. Probably someday you should tell me more, not everything necessarily but enough that I am better calibrated on the range of awful things that there are that I might run into. I think ...probably we shouldn't do that now? Probably we should do that in a couple of years or something, when it won't hurt you if I want to go sing about it for a month. Right now - I want to be here for you."

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"Oh. Of course." 

Leareth hopes it isn't obvious to Maitimo that his heart is suddenly racing - it feels like he just very narrowly avoiding some gaping chasm, that he didn't even see until Maitimo had already yanked him back from the brink, and he's dizzy with relief and also terrified.

He hadn't thought of it, because he's an idiot, but - of course it's fragile, this situation where Maitimo cares about him and wants to be there for him - of course there are facts about his past that, if they were out in the open, would break that delicate balance. And he hates the feeling that he's keeping secrets (weirdly, he's told no one the details of his immortality in - a very long time, and that never bothered him). But he needs Maitimo. He can't see a path to anything ever being okay without Maitimo there.

"I'm...glad," he says, shakily. "That you want to help." 

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It is fairly obvious to Maitimo that Leareth is slightly panicky but also Leareth is slightly panicky a lot because of all of the years of being tortured and then the stupid disaster of an incident last week.  

Hug?

"Everything - that happened in Velgarth - without it you wouldn't have been here in our world when we desperately needed you. I am glad that you are the person that you are. I admire the person that you are."

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"Mmm." Hugs are good. Leareth focuses on breathing and tries to relax in Maitimo's arms. 

And feels weird about it again, wondering if Maitimo is right now trying to suppress the fact that he wants Leareth. And - he's confused, still, he's been confused for a while about why Maitimo is willing to put so much effort toward helping him. It would explain it, the fact that Maitimo is in love with him, except that Maitimo isn't even doing anything about it, Leareth needs so much and Maitimo isn't getting anything in return and that - seems sort of unsustainable. Which is terrifying. 

Leareth knows he should just say something, but he still doesn't know what, he's thinking himself in circles, so he eats quietly and tries his best to concentrate on any conversation Maitimo tries to make with him. 

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Probably they should just avoid topics that make Leareth feel - anxious about being judged? Anxious they'll decide not to let him murder people for his own immortality anymore? - Maitimo can kind of see the argument that they shouldn't let him do that and yet it feels unimaginable, asking him to stop - he is not going to ask that and he is not going to bring up the subject again unless he has a better understanding of what stressed Leareth out this time.

"What does the room look like to mage-sight?"

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Oh, perfect, a new topic! "There are quite an impressive number of wards - I did not realize Vanyel had done so much, he did not say anything about it..."

Leareth can share his senses with Maitimo and point out the various types of ward. None of them are the kind that will actually injure a stranger trying to enter, they'll just send alarms to Vanyel if anything weird happens, but the shielding is thorough enough that Leareth could probably sleep through a mage-duel happening right outside his door. 

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It is a relief to see Leareth a little happier. He suppresses more futile frustration with the easily-frightened locals near Cuivienen and reminds himself that this will take time (less time, because Leareth is very clever and very good, but time) and that the best thing to do is just to be patient, and careful, and as unlike Sauron as it's possible for a person to be. 

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Leareth is able to hold a thread of conversation until he's done eating, and then tells Maitimo he wants to go for a walk by himself for a little while. 

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"Of course. Have a good afternoon." And he'll get back to work.

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Leareth goes out to near the water, moving carefully in the near-darkness of the city - it's lit for Quendi eyes, not human ones. He finds a bench by a fountain, and sits. 

It feels like the ground is sliding out from under his feet. He needs to - reorient, figure out which way is up, form a more accurate understanding of the resources and constraints of his current situation.

One: Maitimo is in love with him. Which explains why he's so motivated to help Leareth recover; Leareth is glad to know, he doesn't like being confused.

Two: Maitimo is, right now, not getting something that he wants a lot. He's sort of not even trying to get it? Except for the part where he's there for Leareth all the time and trying to give him everything he needs. It would make a lot of sense if he were hoping - expecting, maybe, Maitimo is very good at predicting other people - that Leareth would fall in love with him, and so he doesn't need to push at all, just - wait, patiently. Quendi are very patient. But it still means there's a tension there, an expectation, that Leareth hadn't known about before now. 

Three: Maitimo's support is more fragile, and conditional, than Leareth had realized. Because, like an idiot, he hadn't been thinking at all about the part where Maitimo grew up in paradise, and of course he can't imagine from first principles all the things that someone as ruthless as Leareth would have done.

Leareth wouldn't have thought to ask the question of whether he loved Maitimo without prompting, because - well, that's not a framing he's used in centuries. Maybe ever. It wasn't safe to need anyone, in Velgarth; it was a vulnerability. But Arda is different, and Leareth is different now. He doesn't have a way not to need Maitimo's help (and Vanyel's) in putting himself back together - and he's so fortunate, that Maitimo is very good, and understands what Leareth-before was fighting for, and wants to help him get that back.

The closest he ever feels to safe is when he's in Maitimo's arms. Is that what being in love feels like? It's not like Leareth has anything else to compare it with. 

...It would be good, he thinks, if he loved Maitimo back. That would be a helpful shape for a Leareth to be, in these particular circumstances. It would be more stable and sustainable for Maitimo, giving Leareth so much help and support, if he were also getting the thing he wanted; it seems sort of unreasonable not to want to give him that, actually.

Leareth thinks that he's mostly that shape already? He feels very positively about Maitimo, wants to see him and talk to him, wants Maitimo to hold him when he's falling asleep. He's - confused - about whether he wants to have sex with Maitimo, but that seems mostly explainable by the fact that he's never had sex with anyone in this body. Also some of his fake memories contain - that - and then horrible things, so it makes sense for him to have mixed feelings. Mostly with Vanyel, though. There are a small number involving Maitimo but even when he was blocking off having any beliefs about reality, they were very unconvincing, and he trusts the real Maitimo utterly, so it really should be fine.

A sensible next step, Leareth decides, is paying more attention to his actual, current feelings about Maitimo over the next couple of days. He gets up and heads back to his room. 

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Maitimo is writing a lot of apologetic letters to the various people who he passed off handling of the Valdemaran delegation to. He stops by in the evening because Leareth is likely to want to be held and sung to sleep.

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Leareth does want that! He smiles when he sees Maitimo, more than usual because he's paying a lot of attention to whether he's happy to see him, and in fact he is! "How was your day?" 

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"Good! How was yours?"

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"It was good. I did a great deal of thinking. Also it is helping, to have mage-sight back. I feel so much more oriented to the city when I can sense magical artifacts as landmarks."

He relaxes in Maitimo's arms. Pays a lot of attention to how he feels about it, which is: content, and safe, and grateful to have Maitimo there. 

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"I'm really glad. I'm sorry we didn't do it sooner; I should have imagined what it'd be like to be without osanwë."

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"It had not occurred to me that it might be possible to do it partially like this. Melody is very talented." How does he feel right now? Very deeply cared for, he owes Maitimo so much...

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"She is! You are of course recovering at the most record-setting pace but the other prisoners are doing considerably better than we expected too."

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"I am incredibly grateful for her help." He shifts in Maitimo's arms, so he can look at him. "And for yours. I cannot imagine what I would do without it." 

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Hug. "I think it might be slower but I bet you could eventually put yourself together from very little. I'm glad we can make it easier."

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Leareth is a lot less sure of that, actually, but he appreciates that Maitimo is trying to reassure him. "I am ready to go to sleep now," he says, instead of saying any of the confused fragmentary thoughts bouncing around in his head. 

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Then Maitimo will sing him to sleep, holding very still so he isn't scary, watching Leareth relax and thinking about how stupid it was to bring him to Cuivienen, it really seems to have set him back a lot -

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Leareth spends the next week on and off thinking about his accidental discovery, and not telling anybody about said thoughts. From the outside, he's perhaps a bit clingier than before, but he doesn't seem unhappy.

Nights are a lot easier for him with mage-sight; when he wakes up panicked and disoriented from nightmares, he can check the wards on the room himself. 

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Maitimo sings to him and gives him hugs when they seem needed and gives him sanitized, boring updates on the international diplomacy situation and eventually brings up again whether Melody could help him with his stress around Vanyel. "I don't think it'd bother her that she knows him - it's not like it's about something he really did -"

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"I suppose it is worth at least asking her." Which he can do the next time he's seeing Melody anyway. 

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If Melody is uncomfortable about this at all, it doesn't show. "That makes sense. It's not really about him at all, just - minds make associations. I don't at all mind trying to help; I'm not sure I can address all of it, I think most of all you need time and lots of low-stress interactions with him, but I can probably do some redirects that'll help somewhat." 

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"I would appreciate that." In addition to the whole immortality...thing, Vanyel is the only person he can think of who might have useful advice on the subject he's most preoccupied by right now, which feels very weird to bring up with Melody. 

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Then Melody can spend a candlemark throwing in some redirects so that Leareth finds the most frequent types of interactions with Vanyel more neutral. Vanyel coming into a room and greeting him, for example. 

"You're likely to still bump into upsetting associations once in a while," she tells him. "If you write down whenever that happens, I can try to patch it at our next session. My main goal here is to get you to the point that you can have some normal, un-fraught, pleasant conversations with him, which over time is going to help the most." 

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He's relieved about this; it seems like it'll be really good for both of them. Leareth is always very tired after a session with Melody, so he lingers in case he wants to be put to sleep.

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Leareth would like that. 

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Maitimo sings to him, holds still for him, leaves once he's fast asleep. 

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Leareth schedules a couple of very innocuous conversations with Vanyel over the next few days, which Vanyel is happy to cooperate with. They have a certain amount of practice with sticking to neutral topics when anything substantive is too fraught.

Melody's redirects don't completely get rid of the problem, but they do mean that every time Leareth reflexively expects Vanyel to be angry in response to something he said, or hurt him, it's always followed by the reminder that this is pretty unlikely given Vanyel's entire...Vanyel...and his thoughts steering back to the previous topic.

He brings up the immortality method first; weirdly, that feels less stressful to talk about than his feelings toward Maitimo. 

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Vanyel listens very calmly, his expression controlled and level. 

"I see," he says when Leareth finishes. "Does Maitimo know? It...seems like something that might, er, bother Quendi more." 

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"Maitimo has asked not to know any more for the next several years, until it - matters less - if he becomes too upset to speak to me." 

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"Oh." Vanyel winces slightly. "I mean. Probably wise of him. Still a bit ouch." He lets out his breath. "...I'm not mad, Leareth. I swear. I'm not surprised, that this is something you did, and - if you did it, I fully believe it's because it was the only way. And it meant you were around when Arda needed you. That was pretty important." 

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Nod. 

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"Anyway. I'll have a look, might take me a bit to get the hang of the trick with visiting the Void, but it does help that I've been to the Moonpaths. Someone else took me there, but still." 

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"Really? That sounds like a story." 

And then Leareth can spend the next while hearing about Vanyel's adventures in Kata'shin'a'in, which is fascinating and mostly not that stressful.

It is tiring, and he's ready for bed earlier than usual, and Mindspeaks Maitimo to see if he's available. 

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He is. "How was your day?"

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"It was productive. I spoke to Vanyel about the - thing - that I wished him to check, and then we had quite a long conversation about his travels before coming here, which I enjoyed. Mostly." 

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"Oh, good. I'm so glad for you. For both of you."

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"I think this is excellent progress. How was your day?" 

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"All right! We've procured some more boats, finally, which should help with scouting out the other continent. Some people are going to get training in Alqualondë on how to sail them."

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"Oh. Good. I suppose there is a lot of coastline, and having Vanyel do Gates to places does not exactly scale well as a method of exploration." 

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"He's a very good sport about it, but no, it really doesn't. We don't even have guesses about how far south the continent goes. East we at least know it stretches to Cuivienen." He makes a face. "I'm still very irritated with them for shooting at us."

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Leareth shivers and curls up tighter against Maitimo. He doesn't really want to think about Cuivienen right now. 

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Hug. "I'm sorry. Keep being tempted to go shoot back, which is very bizarre, it wouldn't actually make you any safer." 

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...Leareth is so curious what Maitimo is thinking about right now that produced those words, even though it's really not his to know. 

"I think it is an understandable impulse," he says, "even though in practice it would simply escalate the hostility with them further." It makes him feel cared for. 

(And then confused, in the same tangled loop as before, because Maitimo is pouring in so much here, and Leareth is giving back so little in return, and he still doesn't know how to think about that let alone what to do about it.) 

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He hugs him. "And I learned a new song about the war! Vanyel will hate it once he hears it if he hasn't already."

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"Of course he will. I would like to hear it, though." 

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Then he will sing it for him! It's very beautiful and well-crafted and glorious and heroic and complimentary about Vanyel (and also Leareth). 

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It's a good song, and of course Maitimo sings it very well, because he's a Quendi. It's sort of strange to hear the parts about him, it feels like the composer must be describing a different person entirely, but unlike Vanyel, Leareth can notice that being embarrassed about it is very pointless.

Being sung to and held tends to make him drowsy even when it's not a magic song. "That is very flattering," Leareth murmurs, sleepily, when Maitimo finishes. "It is accurate about Vanyel...but he will hate it anyway, of course..." 

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"Maybe the moreso because it's true, and beautiful." And he'll hold him while he falls asleep.

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The next day, Leareth goes to Vanyel, when it seems to be a good moment. "I wished to ask your advice on something." 

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"Oh?" Vanyel looks slightly surprised, but nods. "Of course." He peers at Leareth. "Er, is it something you want a privacy barrier for?" 

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"...I would certainly not mind." 

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Privacy barrier. "What is it?" 

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This is, weirdly, one of the most difficult conversations he's ever tried to start. "I - how do you decide if you are in love with someone?" 

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Startled look. "What?" 

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It's really hard to explain without the context that 'I accidentally read Maitimo's mind and I think he's in love with me', but that is private and Leareth is absolutely not going to go around sharing it behind Maitimo's back, even with someone as trustworthy as Vanyel. 

"I am trying to figure out if I love Maitimo and if I should do anything about that." 

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"Oh. I - um - can I have a moment to think about that. That is really not what I was expecting to be asked about today– er, I'm not mad or anything! It...makes a lot of sense." 

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"Mmm." Leareth waits, anxiously. 

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"Well," Vanyel says finally, folding his hands over his knee, "obviously you need to talk about it with him? I - don't know if he'd, um, interested in anything, since Quendi... But I don't think he'd be mad if you asked." 

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Nod. 

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"Er, there are a lot of reasons it might be a bad idea to actually have a relationship, there's the part where you're sort of his prisoner, and what it'd look like..." Shrug. "Although, honestly, if you want it, I don't see what's wrong with that and I'd be pretty happy about you getting more of the things you want, right now." 

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Leareth absorbs that for a moment. "That is helpful. Thank you." 

In any other circumstances, he would be telling Vanyel that he isn't sure if he's having the shape of feelings that mean he wants a romantic relationship, as opposed to just...whatever it already is, now. But, well, Leareth has already decided the bottom line of what he wants, here, and he's pretty sure that he's mostly having all the appropriate feelings for it, and can nudge any remaining ones into line. 

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"Leareth..." Vanyel hesitates, he doesn't want to be condescending by mistake, but he forges on. "I'm proud of you, that you're thinking about what you want here. I know that must be hard, and - it's good, is all." 

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So Leareth goes out for a walk to think. Thinks in circles for a while. Eventually decides that there's no possible way he is going to come up with a polished thing to say, it's going to come out as a mess no matter what, and he might as well just go do the talking about it part. 

(He is kind of terrified about this, but it seems likely to be for stupid reasons.) 

:Maitimo, can we talk at some point?: 

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Sure. Are you in your room?

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:On a walk but I will be back there in a couple of minutes: 

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I can head over now.

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Leareth is hovering by his bed when Maitimo arrives. He's more fidgety than usual. 

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" - hey. What's up?"

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"I...should tell you something..." This is the stupidest thing in the entire world to be scared about. "Can you hold me?" 

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"Of course." And he sits down next to him and wraps his arms around him carefully in one of the known ways that isn't scary.

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His hindbrain is screaming that Maitimo is going to be angry, but that's based on some very faulty priors from events that weren't even real, actual Maitimo is not going to be angry, if he wasn't angry about any of the other awful things then he won't be about this.

"Two things. I - read some of your thoughts. When the amulet was broken. I would have told you right away, but - I picked up that you - wanted me. And then I needed time to think. I feel–" why is this so unreasonably hard to talk about, "–I think I love you, and - if you want to, if you think it is a good idea - I think having a relationship would make me happy." 

There, now he's said all of the things, all of them are true things (if somewhat complicatedly true around the edges), now what. 

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"Oh. I didn't mean for you to - I'm not angry. But I didn't mean to - I figured you would catch on eventually but I wanted it to be - once you were okay - I was worried it'd - scare you - or distract you -"

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"No, it is all right." ...Leareth probably shouldn't literally lie to Maitimo about his feelings. "I was a little scared. But for - stupid reasons - like when I was stressed by Vanyel. And - not very much, really." Shrug. "I guess it is distracting." 

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"I guess 'not distracting' is probably a lot to hope for. Or not even hope for -" He stops himself. Bites his lip. "I am very surprised, sorry. I'm not quite -

- I love you."

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It feels good to hear it said out loud. Mostly-good, it has some of the ground-sliding-under-him feel. "I gathered," he says, half-laughing, his voice shaky. "I - I am not sure what my feelings are, I am not - used to this - I care about you and I want to be close to you and..." He trails off. "I ought probably give you some time to think, sorry." 

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"I should definitely think. But - I love you, and - 

- what specifically would you like to be different from the way things are now -"

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Aaaaaah this feels suddenly very fraught, like there are a thousand different ways to say the wrong thing. It takes a lot of effort and control, but Leareth manages not to tense up. He has spent some time thinking about this. "I am not sure exactly - I have not - been close to people in that way, in a long time. ...I think I would like it if we had sex. It would probably be - hard and scary, at first, because of - Melkor things - but I do not actually endorse never doing things that are hard because of Angband." 

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"That makes sense." He reaches up to run his hand through Leareth's hair, very gently. "All right. I want to ask Vanyel if I am being very stupid and ask Findekáno if I am being very stupid. That would mean telling them, though, and it would be very reasonable to prefer it be more secret than that."

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Leareth shivers, closes his eyes. "No, that makes sense - you should do that... I trust Vanyel, I do not know Findekáno as well as you do but if you trust him..." 

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"I do. He doesn't have a way to block mindreaders but I don't think the Valdemarans would do that."

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"No, I doubt it."

Leareth is focusing on the fact that he is comfortable and safe, nothing about that part is different, and repeatedly dissolving and setting aside his mind's attempts to make him very stressed because this is novel territory. 

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Maitimo stops petting Leareth's hair, puts his hand back on Leareth's back. "I wanted you from almost the day we met. Mostly managed to think about other things because there were so terribly many other things to think about."

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"You were rather good at not thinking about it; I do not think that you ever did while I was reading your thoughts." 

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"You might not have noticed, it was very tangled up in -" And he sends some memories, drawing out what was background at the time - watching Leareth do magic, realizing that the question that felt so urgent, about how far to trust Leareth, was in a sense almost irrelevant because actually, they were almost entirely at his mercy - and that should be frightening and it was mostly frightening but there was something else there, too - occasionally he'd wish Leareth was less astoundingly virtuous -

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Leareth rides along with the memory, half-awed - no, he didn't notice it at the time, though he does remember noticing Maitimo recognizing how outpowered the Quendi were, how much damage Leareth could do if he wanted and how little any of them could do to stop him -  and wishing it were different, it seemed like they could be better allies to each other if there were more balance there...

–And then he bursts out laughing. "Maitimo, I am not sure anyone has ever put my name and the words 'astoundingly virtuous' in the same paragraph." 

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"Well I don't know how else to conceptualize it!! The thing about you where you would absolutely never have - not just never have asked me to bed, that's objectively a level of virtuous that everyone manages all the time just fine, you never asked for anything that wasn't obviously necessary to win the war -"

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"I mean, it would not have helped, right? I wanted to win the war - and then I wanted your help afterward, to fix Velgarth, but - it was obvious that needed to wait, and it was not something I could obtain by, what, by armtwisting you into it because I was powerful enough to get away with it? Your people did not have any resources to spare and so it would not have accomplished anything to ask for more than what was necessary." 

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"Everything you did made perfect sense! And -" he shakes his head. "- you keep undershooting, how much you can ask - and it feels a little bit insane to attempt to convince you not to but I think I ought to, if you really want to do this. You could have asked for more from the moment you met me. It is objectively probably a good thing that you didn't, but - you could have, and I would have been delighted."

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"...I will try to remember that." It feels confusing and topsy-turvy, and almost painful in some obscure hard-to-describe way, but...it's also good. 

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"Maitimo, I–" And he's scared again, inexplicably, but it's not that loud and he can nudge it away. "I do not want to use the words wrong, I am very new to this, but... I love you." He lets out his breath. "You should talk to Vanyel, probably. Before...anything else." 

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"Yeah. - do you want me to go do that right now?"

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"It is up to you? I am not in a rush - I suppose I do want to know what Vanyel says. Oh - I spoke to him before, a little - not about your feelings, that is not mine to share, but about how I felt. He gave me the very obvious advice that I needed to talk to you. So I did."

He's actually more curious (and anxious) about what Findekáno will have to say, but it feels fraught to push. 

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"I guess I am worried that if I leave you'll - sit here fretting - so I would sort of rather talk, and then go ask them tonight."

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"I suppose I might. I - would like it if you stayed, too." He falls silent, waiting. 

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"Well, there you have it, then.

 

Do you - know what you want - more specifically, I mean -"

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"I think not that specifically - unlike many things this is not something where I meaningfully have two thousand years of practice. I - like it when you touch me - I like being able to make you very happy... I will probably need some pointers for everything more specific than that." 

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"Okay." He smiles at him. "I'm sorry this is so - like an interview - I love you and I want you to be happy and I want you to have nice things and I am sure we can figure out the rest but I have very little of it figured out right now."

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Leareth smiles back. Tries to reassure the part of him that's still inexplicably scared, that this isn't a test he's failing, it's okay. "That is all right. At least I am not the only one who has very little figured out here." 

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"Should I sing something?"

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"Yes, I would like that." And maybe Leareth can come up with better answers to Maitimo's questions while he's doing that. 

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Maitimo can snuggle him and sing silly love songs. 

 

He is having a really hard time getting a read on what Leareth wants, and he feels embarrassed about it. You would think that probably Maitimo was a good person to go to if you had a problem of not knowing what you wanted and instead he's just kind of stuck. It's presumably that Melkor has surrounded everything with badness so nothing is straightforwardly good. But knowing that it's Melkor doesn't make it feel less like a personal failing, less like he's just being stupid, and if he thought of the right thing then it'd all click into place and he'd know exactly how to give Leareth what he wants -

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Leareth is - mostly pretty content, he's safe in Maitimo's arms and being sung to and Maitimo was happy, to find out, and that's good. He's a bit annoyed with himself, though, because clearly the helpful shape for him to be right now would involve...wanting things...and being able to tell Maitimo what he's hoping for, what would make him happy. And his mind is not being very obliging on that front. 

Wanting things is hard. In general, always, but - especially here, because he doesn't even have any pre-Angband habits to reach for, pretty much all he has is the concrete underlying goal, for Maitimo to be happy and have what he wants - and a vague floating sense that there's something that would be good, and then a lot of flinches. It's irritating. 

He spends a while poking at that and eventually decides that maybe some of it is helpful to say. :Wanting things is hard. It feels right to - try to practice, though, to - find something good, instead of just being scared: 

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That makes sense. I was thinking we could mostly practice - things Melkor couldn't have managed to poison - I guess I shouldn't underestimate how many things Melkor can poison - but definitely we can practice lots of things, and stop if they're not working -

- I think if it were me, this would be very important to me, and so it's silly of me to have not thought through that it might be very important to you. 

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Snuggle. :I mean, it was not - I would not have said it was important to me before, because Velgarth was - not safe, for loving people, and there were so many other things to do... But a number of things are different here. I am actually somewhat mad that all of my memories of - sex, and related things, are stupid Melkor scenarios. Usually involving Vanyel doing things that would be very implausible and out of character for him– please do not tell him that: 

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Of course not! And - it makes sense to be mad about that. I would be really really happy, to find something better than that with you. 

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:I would like that: 

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It is a little bit hard, to snuggle him quietly and sing and not start trying to solve the mystery suddenly in front of him of what Leareth wants. But he should really, really talk to Vanyel and Findekáno about this.

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Leareth doesn't try to start the conversation again. He focuses on the positive feelings he has about the situation, repeatedly redirects the parts of him which are scared of mysterious badness, and eventually notices he's both hungry and sleepy. 

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Then he should get them dinner before he sings Leareth to sleep!

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This is a sensible plan!

:I love you: Leareth tells him, sleepily, and it feels good to say it, and also scary but he's pretty determined not to let the latter steer. 

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And then he'll go find Vanyel.

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Vanyel is in his room, working. He sets down his notes right away, though; he doesn't seem surprised at all to see Maitimo. "I wondered if you'd be by today." 

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"Leareth said he'd talked to you. He, uh -" He activates his amulet. 

"He says that he wants to pursue a romantic relationship."

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Vanyel nods. "He came to me earlier and - said he thought he was in love with you, and was trying to figure out what to do about it, basically. He was pretty unsure of himself about it. I said he needed to just talk to you, that you wouldn't be mad at him for bringing it up. I - well, he really caught me off guard, but I tried to give him sensible advice." 

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"I'm not mad at him for bringing it up. I'm a little worried it's a bad idea. He's still very traumatized. But - he said that he wants - something in that space which isn't memories of Melkor, and I think I'd feel the same way if it were me, and I do love him, and - do you think it's very stupid to consider it -"

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Vanyel blinks at him. "...Oh. I told Leareth you might not, er, reciprocate his feelings, but– that's good, I guess. Um. It seems risky? He's really vulnerable and you could probably hurt him a lot without meaning to. But, I mean - I told Leareth it might be a bad idea, but that I was proud of him for - being able to want something, I guess. I know that's felt really dangerous for him. And, I don't know, it feels - patronizing, or something, to tell him he can't have this thing he wants because it might hurt him. It's just risky." 

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"- yeah. It is. I -

- I really don't want to hurt him but I also don't want to - it probably also hurts him, if we treat him like he's not competent to want things -

- it would be a lot simpler if I were not interested but he - when the amulet broke - he noticed -"

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"Oh. That - I wondered what prompted him to bring it up now in particular. That's awkward. But...maybe good? If it got him to think about what he wanted, too." Vanyel shakes his head. "He was so alone, before - it didn't seem to bother him but it can't have been good for him even then." 

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"I don't think it was. Sustainable, but not good for him - and now not even sustainable, maybe. And on Velgarth everyone was so young - no offense -"

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"He already feels very close to you, that's been obvious for ages. That is the sort of conditions under which people fall in love. And, right, you can - well, keep up with him. Unlike all the tiny babies like me." He smiles a little. 

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"You're - in a lot of important ways more mature than anyone in Arda, you know." He shakes his head. 

"If I am going to consider this - there's some stuff that I should not be simultaneously making decisions about - when he can have his magic back, whether he's stable enough to go return to his people in Velgarth if he wishes - would you be willing to be responsible for that, obviously I'll still tell you my opinions if I have them but I'll tell my people it's not our call -"

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"–Oh, of course. That makes a lot of sense - I told Leareth, that was an aspect of it that seemed pretty concerning, but if you're willing to - that's much less uncomfortable. I can be responsible for those decisions. As long as I'm still allowed to ask you for advice." Vanyel frowns. "Has he spoken with Melody about this, do you know? I guess it's pretty private, but - well, if he's going to be doing things that risk running into a lot of really bad associations, it seems like a good idea for her to have context on it." 

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- nod. "- I'm scared. Of people knowing. But that does seem like something he'd probably need."

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“That makes sense. For what it’s worth, Melody is really, really trustworthy. She keeps a lot of people’s secrets.”

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Nod. "I'll suggest it to him."

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“I’m still a bit nervous about this. But I know you’ll be really careful, and,” crooked smile, “I can tell you love him a lot.”

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"I am nervous too. But - 

- probably this is not as hard as fighting Melkor. And we figured that one out."

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“I really hope it’s not! Er, good skill. And...you can always come to me if you want to talk through something - I’m not the best person in the world for relationship advice but, um, I guess at least I’m Leareth’s species, and I‘ve known him a long time.”

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" - and your society has, uh, the concept that this is the kind of thing it is possible to do ethically at all instead of always being something it's awful to do to another person."

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“...Right.“ Vanyel fidgets. “I - gods - I’m sorry. That your entire society is...like that. It’s not awful of you at all.”

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"Sorry, I didn't mean to - you are not responsible for convincing Quendi to change how we think about - things -"

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“I know. I’m - not trying to convince Quendi as a whole. Just...you.” Shrug. “It seems important, if you’re going to be, er, trying to show Leareth a reasonable healthy way to do this thing, right.”

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" - yeah. Right. Um. I think that it matters a lot more to me, whether it's good for him, whether it makes him stronger, than - that it's not a marriage. I think the usual Quendi answer is that you can't be good for people or make them stronger if it's not a marriage. That seems false about humans. I guess I don't know if it's false about Quendi."

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“I mean, the closest human equivalent to your marriage is lifebonds,” slight wince, “and that’s - one in a thousand, one in ten thousand people...? So, it definitely can’t be true that those are the only good relationships. I don’t know, Quendi are different, just... I think it’s false that there’s no possible thing here that’d be good for you and - make you stronger too-.”

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"I think - if it's good for him, if it makes him happy, if it helps him recover, if it helps him remember who he is - I think that'd be good for me, too."

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"That seems right. I - hope it works out that way." 

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Nod. "Thank you. If you think of anything else please do let me know."

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"Of course." 

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"And, uh, could I have a Gate to Vinyamar. There's someone there who I should talk with, too."

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Vanyel blinks. "...Oh, of course. I'm glad you've got other people to talk to." He's a bit surprised, and very curious, but it seems gauche to ask so he won't. 

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He feels stressed about tipping his hand even that much, honestly. 

He goes through.

 

Findekáno?

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Hey! I figured you'd be a while after -

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I left everyone with the whole delegation to run off with Leareth, yeah. I -

- Leareth asked me about a relationship. 

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Huh. That was fast. 

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That's kind of how I'm feeling about it! I thought maybe - once he'd recovered - if he wasn't very frustrated with us for having let it come to that - 

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That sounds like a much better idea than this.

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It really does. But if this is what he wants - then I want to give it to him.

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I am not sure this is the sort of thing you can give people as an act of altruism. Or even as an investment. 

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- well I mean - I wouldn't if - if I had not been very recently complaining to you about how desperately I want him I wouldn't be deciding to go for it just because he asked. But I do want him, and I love him, and he thinks it'll be good for him, to try it, and - it feels, I don't know, condescending, or something, to insist on not, given all that - like I'm sabotaging his ability to notice things about the world and use them to get what he wants - 

- if I was rescued from Angband, and I was a traumatized mess who was very scared of my own shadow, and I wanted you, what would you do?

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Whatever you wanted. But we have - a preexisting relationship. I think that matters for - how well I understand you and know what's good for you.

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I'm not sure I know what's good for him. I guess I'm counting on him to know that, or at least to - benefit from being allowed to help figure that out even if he doesn't know it. 

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Do you think he might be working from some bad assumptions about people and what they want, from all the Melkor?

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I think he almost definitely is? And I think he knows he is. And I think this is - how he wants to fix that.

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One thing that occurs to me to worry about is that you will try very very diligently to give him whatever you think he's looking for here and not check, uh, whether it's good for you.

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Oh, I'm totally going to do that. He's more fragile right now. If he wants something costly, he can have something costly. I'll be fine.

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That sounds like a terrible idea. 

Or - it sounds like a plan that only works if you have infinite reserves and infinite ability to cope, and I doubt you do, and if it's what he would want if he were fully informed, and I bet he wouldn't be. It's - important not to do something for someone else that they think is also for you? I'd be angry with you, if you did it for me.

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You just said that if it were me in that situation and I asked for you you'd do whatever I wanted. 

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- well, yes. But I wouldn't be misleading you about what it was costing me, if anything, because it's impossible to mislead you about anything. 

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Now I feel like we're overthinking this. If he turns out to just want to demand humiliating things then I'll tell him I don't enjoy that at all. I don't think he will. I do think it's correct for me to be mostly not presenting him with puzzles about - how to take care of me - and so I should not do this at all if I cannot sincerely present a front of - I'm taking care of me, let's just figure things out about you -

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Yeah, that sounds right. Or closer to right. 

I don't know. I still feel confused but I can't say what about, not exactly, and I don't know him.

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Can I come over? I asked Van to Gate me back in a couple of hours, I didn't want to leave him waiting long...

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Yeah, of course. 

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They talk, a little. Mostly he lies snuggled up with Findekáno saying things he admires about Leareth. That part is the least confusing part of the whole thing. 


When it's time for his Gate back he goes over a bit early so as not to make Van hold it.

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Vanyel raises a Gate right on time. Doesn't say anything, just nods to Maitimo. 

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"Thank you," he says, and comes on through it. 

 

Is Leareth awake?

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Nope. 

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Then he will go sing by the ocean for a while.

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Leareth wakes up and spends a few seconds untangling the fragmentary memories of nightmares, and then the actual memories of yesterday catch up.

...That went well? Better than he'd expected? He thinks?

He spends a little while longer poking at his current feelings, it'll be easier to talk about this if he knows where he's starting from. 

:Maitimo?: 

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scared - which is stupid–

:I did not manage to take notes about yesterday: he confesses. :Can you - what were the things that we talked about...?: 

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You said that you wanted to pursue a relationship. That you noticed, when my amulet was broken, that I - wanted that too. We talked a little bit about how that would look different than what we're already doing right now. You said that you wanted to have sex, that you were not sure what would be good and not awful but that you would like to try things and figure it out. I said I was going to go talk to Vanyel and Findekáno. - I have done that.

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:Oh. Good. What did they say?:

Leareth reaches for his notes and starts updating them. Not with any of the things he was thinking, yesterday, just the things he actually talked about with Maitimo. 

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They're a little worried. Vanyel said it's - risky - I could hurt you a lot without meaning to -

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Leareth freezes. It's a good thing that Maitimo isn't actually there in person, because he would definitely notice that Leareth is on the edge of panic for no good reason - it's impossible to hide what he's feeling from Maitimo, in general it's probably a stupid idea to try, but - if he's too obviously scared, here, then Maitimo might decide none of this is worth trying, and then–

:That - makes sense: he admits. :But - I know you are going to be very careful and I trust you. There is no one in the world I would trust more with this: 

(This is true but it's also kind of a low bar.) 

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I guess I figure you have the right to decide you want to try something that might hurt you. And of course I will try very very hard not to. But - but we should probably expect that even if you really want this we might not be able to figure out how to make it work until you're more recovered, right? And if that's what happens, then that's all right. It hasn't been very long at all.

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:I know: He isn't going to be able to explain to Maitimo why it's so important that he figure something out now, at least the beginnings of something. :We have a lot of time: And Maitimo is very good and very reassuring and it's not him that Leareth is scared of. Or, well, that's almost entirely true. :Are you busy? I would like it if you came and held me: 

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I told people Vanyel was going to Gate me over to Vinyamar and have not told them he got me back. 

And he comes over to see Leareth.

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As soon as the door to his room is closed, Leareth slips into Maitimo's arms. Relaxes. :I love you: 

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I love you. I want to fix all the worlds with you.

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That makes Leareth feel warm and happy and also - sort of caught, or something, because he knows that's such an important piece of why Maitimo loves him at all - because he was trying to fix everything - and he can't, right now. 

:Someday: he agrees. :I - want to get better, so we can do that: 

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Yes, of course. You can take as long as you need. We've got it handled, in the meantime. 

 

Is this - maybe a little bit about - there being something you can do now, that affects other people -

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Aaaaaah - except it shouldn't be a frightening question to be asked. Maitimo is going to be able to tell that it is, though, and will want to know why, and Leareth doesn't understand why–

:Maybe. Probably a little. But, I mean - I do not want this with Vanyel. I want it with you. Because of...how I feel about you: Leareth is pretty sure all of that is true. 

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Patpatpat - sorry. I wasn't trying to question your - sincerity, or something - I'm not questioning you about anything. I love you, and you want this, and you can have this, no matter how messy your reasons are. I am not trying to decide whether you are good enough to deserve this or something. It's just - helpful to know what you want to get out of it -

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:I know: Maitimo is so good, and Leareth wants to give him everything, and he has no idea how. And every single sentence in this conversation feels like balancing on a tightrope.

Which is something Maitimo is going to notice as well. :I - everything you are saying to me makes me very happy, and - a bit scared. I think the scared is not about you and not your fault, just...: 

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Yeah. It's okay. 


Is it more scary or less scary if I say that we needn't do anything today, or this month, that I can just hold you and tell I love you -

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Leareth considers it. It's kind of hard question to answer. 

:I think mostly less scary: he decides. :Although, I - feel safer when I have a plan and - know what to expect in the future. I do not even think that is because of Melkor, it is just how I am. But maybe this is not something where having a plan makes sense. At some point I do wish to talk about things that we could try, in the future, even if I am not ready for that yet: And then he can have time to think about it and poke his feelings about it and get his head into a shape where any of this works. 

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Okay. My plan is to take things very slowly and let you decide when they escalate and mostly only do things that I think Melkor could not have managed with a catatonic participant and hope we find something in there that makes us both happy.

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:That makes sense: Leareth is a bit nervous that Maitimo will be impatient, but - Quendi are very patient, in general, and he suspects Maitimo is right about what will make this easier and less upsetting.

He tries to smile. :Mostly you should not turn into Sauron but I am not very worried you would be tempted to do that: 

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Shiver. It's just me. I love you.

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:I know: Leareth leans on him, closing his eyes. Stays quiet for a while, waits to see if Maitimo will say or do anything. 

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He said it'd be less scary to take things very slow so Maitimo will just sit here and sing quietly and hold him.

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:What are you thinking about?: Leareth asks finally, because it's both frustrating and pointless trying to guess. 

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He considers for a moment whether to take off the amulet. On the one hand, Leareth feels very fragile and maybe the wrong thought will make him worse. On the other hand, maybe they shouldn't be trying this if he can't trust Leareth with the contents of his head - on another hand there's still the news about the gate though he thinks he can manage not to think about it - 

- Leareth must feel so powerless, and hate that -

He reaches for the clasp of the amulet. Would you like to -

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:Oh. ...Not if it makes you uncomfortable. You could just tell me some of it, if you wanted: 

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I was trying to figure out what you needed. I wish I had it all figured out for you but I don't, yet. I'm sure we'll get there. I was thinking about how - it's important for you not to feel powerless, here - 

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:Mmm: Leareth spends a while turning all of that over in his head. :I mean, I am not sure how you could have all of this figured out for me when I do not. I - do not think I feel powerless right now. I mean, I dislike that I cannot do as many things as before and that - having plans is so difficult - but, feel that I noticed I wanted something and then asked about it and now you are trying very hard to help: 

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Well, in my head when I imagined someday getting to have this I had it all figured out even though you did not and was able to help you discover all kinds of interesting things about yourself and you were very impressed. So it's annoying that it doesn't seem to actually work like that in real life.

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:That is very sweet: Also it makes Leareth feel off-balance, again, and like it's his fault and he's doing something wrong, he's failing to give Maitimo anything to work with because he's too broken - but probably Maitimo isn't actually thinking about it that way and wouldn't want Leareth to and it seems unfair and unpleasant for him to dump all that mess on him. 

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Can I pet your hair? For Quendi that'd be - it'd be too soon for that - but for humans it's different I think -

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:...Yes - I liked it when you did that, before: And still managed to get tangled up and stuck on suggesting it, even though he knows Maitimo wants him to ask for things. It was the first indication that Maitimo was taking what he had said seriously, though, and doing something different as a result, something he'd wanted but hadn't felt he had a right to. 

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Maitimo undoes his braid, very gently, and pets his hair, very gently. 

You're very wonderful, he says absentmindedly while he does this. I love you.

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It's mostly quite pleasant; Maitimo is there and paying attention to him and seems happy, which Leareth is pleased about, and the associations are mostly neutral, although at one point something mysteriously startles him and he - freezes, and then goes limp, the instinctive response that catches him here is don'treactdon'tresponddon'thavethoughts–

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He stops. Hey. It's okay. It's okay, you're safe.

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It takes thirty seconds before he's able to respond even in Mindspeech. :I know. I am sorry, it was not - that just happens sometimes: 

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Don't apologize to me. I know it does. It's okay. I should have asked in advance, though, what I can do to help, when it does -

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:...I think mostly what you already do? Saying something reassuring and then holding still and waiting and - not trying to ask me questions until I am responding again, it gets very - I sort of shut down and cannot say things until I am calmer: 

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That makes sense. It's okay. I don't mind. I don't expect you to magically not be traumatized anymore.

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:I know: Maitimo is very patient and kind and good, and Leareth loves him, and he's so grateful. :I think I need you to - just hold me quietly, for a bit - and then I would like if you petted my hair some more: He wishes he had a better read on what Maitimo enjoys, but he's fairly sure Maitimo would only suggest doing things he was going to enjoy. 

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He can hold him quietly for a bit!

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Leareth breathes in and out and pays a lot attention to what he's feeling, here and now.

Safe. Loved. 

...Like he doesn't deserve it, but if Vanyel were in his shoes and feeling that way, Leareth would tell him not to be silly, so he can do his best to tell himself the same thing. 

He wants Maitimo to stay - and wants that to be because Maitimo is happy here and finds it worthwhile, and he thinks that's true, right now, but he's not sure how good a read he has on Maitimo's feelings right now. He has the sense that Maitimo is doing a lot of...presenting a non-scary face to the situation. Which is very good of him, but also makes him slightly uneasy, since then it's harder to tell if separately Maitimo is separately, genuinely, happy about his end of things.

:...I think I would appreciate it if you were willing to let me read your mind: he sends, eventually, after lots of mulling it over. :Just for - one minute, that would be enough, I think it would help me feel - situated. Only if you are comfortable with that, though: 

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I thought about it and I think - if I weren't comfortable then that'd be a worrying sign about whether we should do this at all. You're you, and you need to be - oriented, to feel safe - 

He takes off the amulet. 

It's strange how Leareth feels more fragile now that he's asked for this but maybe it's just that Maitimo's paying more attention, paying extremely close attention, and attributing every panic attack to himself when probably some of them have nothing to do with him. 

It's nice, petting Leareth's hair. It feels - evil - Vanyel pointed out that he would be hurting Leareth, if he carried that attitude into this, and Vanyel was right and yet it's hard to get around the fact that it feels evil, falling in love with a man, taking him prisoner, putting him together again, and then petting his hair while he sits on your lap and trembles - and maybe that means he's doing something wrong but also he always feels evil when he wants someone -

- he wants Leareth to recover. That's by far the most important thing. And if this is - a facet of the world, that it certainly is, one that Melkor would have firmly made salient - then it's a facet of the world Leareth wants a command of, wants to win at, wants to understand how to use to get what he wants, and Maitimo can relate to that, a lot, really, and maybe it's not what people are supposed to do but people aren't supposed to do any of the things Leareth has done - he meant to avoid thinking about that while Leareth was reading his mind, he tucks it away for later - anyway if that's what Leareth wants then Maitimo wants to show him, wants to help him figure it out - wants Leareth to feel competent to get what he wants, and to know what it is -

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:Thank you. That is enough: Leareth reaches out. Takes Maitimo’s hand, places the amulet in it.

...Maitimo understands him almost frighteningly well.  He’s happy and nervous and confused all at once, almost enough to make him dizzy.

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He puts it back on. You know, at first I wondered if you had a way around it. Then you'd get the benefits of my thinking not being constrained by awareness of mindreading and the benefits of reading my mind. It seems like it'd have to be tempting.

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:...I suppose: Leareth shakes his head. :I actually try to avoid that sort of lie, especially to - people I wish to be allies with, who would feel betrayed if they found out. I will conceal information but that itself was no surprise up you - and therefore not really a betrayal, I think. It is very high overhead, to track a lie like that - avoid letting slip anything I ought have no way to know - and I prefer to reserve my mental capacity for other things:

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He nods. He pets him. You sound the most like yourself when you're talking about - how you make decisions. It's very good.

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:- I mean, I am not sure I could make new decisions that way, now. Decisions are - hard. But I remember the habits and heuristics I had before:

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Nod. You remember it but it'd be - really scary to use it?

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Nod. He’s trembling slightly again.

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It's okay. It'll be okay.

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:I think so. It is - getting better. Just...: It’s starting to feel hard to put words together. :Still scared:

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Well, he can hold him and sing for as long as it's needed.

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Leareth should eat something eventually. Maybe go for a walk, obviously he and Maitimo can’t obviously touch each other during that but they can talk. This feels like a decent amount of progress for one day and Leareth isn’t keen to push it further.

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That sounds good to him. They can get food, and walk and talk about scouting the other continent, and then probably Leareth should rest. 

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Probably. Humans need a lot of sleep and Leareth does in particular nowadays, he has more energy than he did at the start but still gets tired a lot faster than before.

He’d like it if Maitimo holds him and sings and pets him a bit while he’s falling asleep.

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He'd be delighted.

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Then he’ll have a content and pleased-with-himself Leareth fall asleep in his arms.

(Leareth is genuinely very happy with everything about today. He also feels - confused, and scared, and sort of sad - but he’s leaving those bits below the surface, to deal with later.)

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Well, he's not a mindreader. Though he has noticed that Leareth used to push his thoughts at him rather than composing them, and is doing that less. Maybe it's that more often he has the energy to actually communicate with words. But it seems like it might not be just that?

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Leareth greets Maitimo with Mindspeech right away when he wakes up, but after that he wants some time alone. The inside of his head feels very loud today, for some reason, and he's not sure what to do to get it to stop that, except waiting and doing other things. 

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Maitimo will attend linguistics guild meetings and check in on other recovering injured people here (mostly not the other Angband survivors).

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Leareth has lunch with Vanyel in Vanyel's rooms. They mostly don't talk about Maitimo, because Leareth feels kind of awkward about it. 

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(Vanyel finds it an embarrassing and difficult topic too, and will happily leave it alone.) 

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:I would like to see you this afternoon: Leareth tells Maitimo after lunch. :If you are free: 

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Certainly! Leareth is being more assertive about wanting him and that seems good.

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Leareth is waiting for Maitimo in his room. Feeling - happy to see him, and also nervous and confused and weirdly shy. He goes to Maitimo for a hug. "How was your morning?" 

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"Linguistics guild is debating whether to release meeting minutes in Valdemaran."

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"Of their meetings here? Is anyone in Valdemar asking for them?" 

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"No one is! They are worried that there must be a good explanation and maybe it's that by not publishing minutes in Valdemaran they're being unwelcoming."

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"Has it occurred to them that literally no one in Valdemar is going to be thinking 'oh, my top priority for this week is reading meeting minutes about linguistics from another world'?" 

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"I tried suggesting that but, you know, gently. I'm not sure it got through."

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"Well, I hope they do not continue to labour under the misapprehension that someone in Valdemar is deeply offended about the omission." 

Leareth falls silent, leaning on Maitimo's shoulder. Thinking. It's annoyingly hard to talk about, he sort of wishes he could do the shoving-thoughts-at-Maitimo method instead of bothering, but - he's not sure it'll all come out in the right order and with the right feelings attached, now, if he does that. 

"An idea I had," he says finally, "is that - one of the things Melkor will not have been able to poison as much, probably, is - where I am the one taking actions. So I thought, maybe, you could tell me ways that you like to be touched and then I could decide whether I feel ready to try some. You could start with things that would still be - going slowly. What do you think?" 

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"That occurred to me too. You could play with my hair, if you liked, though if you do I will be very distracted."

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"...I am going to take a bit of time to figure out whether I want to do that." He thinks the answer will almost certainly be yes, but the way he's actually feeling right now is 'kind of overwhelmed', and he would prefer to see if he can sit with it for a while and get something more like 'excitement' or 'happiness' about it. 

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"How very responsible." He will wait patiently and sing.

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Leareth is mostly mentally simulating touching Maitimo's hair, and Maitimo being happy and distracted, and seeing if the overwhelmed-scared component will settle down.

"Yes, I want to," he says finally, which is true. It's not an entirely uncomplicated wanting, but - well, nothing is and it's not going to be, right now. "I might - pause, sometimes, if it gets overwhelming, it does not necessarily mean I want to stop entirely and it definitely would not be your fault." 

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"I am not going to worry it is my fault." Hug. 

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He's a little worried that Maitimo is trying very hard to make all of this non-stressful for him, which is impossible, and feeling bad when it's inevitably sometimes stressful anyway. Maitimo probably doesn't want Leareth to worry about his feelings there, though, so he doesn't say anything.

He settles himself in a comfortable position and then, slowly and cautiously, reaches for the end of Maitimo's braid. 

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Maitimo smiles slightly at him and waits patiently.

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What happens if he undoes the tie at the end of Maitimo's braid. 

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If Findekáno did that he would pout and threaten to do it himself but he's - not sure if they're allowed to joke, yet. He waits.

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Leareth starts undoing the braid. Stops a few seconds again, this time in amazement. "Your hair is so soft!" Probably it's annoying to keep stopping more than necessary, though, so he continues unraveling it.

(Softsoftsoft. That part is really nice, actually. There aren't a lot of sensory experiences that are almost-purely-pleasant right now, and running his fingers through Quendi hair is up there.) 

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He tries not to be startling about it or anything but he is very distracted!

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It makes him feel - a weird, but not inaccurate, description of the feeling is 'powerful'. He is really, absurdly, obviously having an effect on the world right now! If only on Maitimo. 

...Which is a complicated feeling, right now, he feels proud and satisfied and also terrified and confused, which is a bizarre mixture, and every so often his head starts to feel full to bursting, and he has to pause for a moment and close his eyes and pretend he's somewhere else until his emotions settle. 

Eventually he figures out that it's less overwhelming if part of him stays detached from it, like he's observing through a window. The same feelings are mostly still happening but it's a bit less - loud, and messy.

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Hopefully Leareth is having a good time and making good decisions because he can't super read him right now while very distracted. 

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Leareth stops after a while, shifts so he can cuddle with Maitimo. Maybe at an angle where Maitimo can't really see his face, to start. He waits to see if Maitimo is going to say or do anything. 

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"How're you feeling?"

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"...Good. That was...a lot, though..." He switches to Mindspeech, it's still easier. :I felt - I guess, like I had the power to do something in the world, even if it was only - making you happy. And that felt very good and also kind of scary, and just - a lot of feelings, so it was a little overwhelming, that was why I stopped for a moment sometimes. But, I am very glad we tried it: Snuggle. :I love you: 

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I love you. I want you to have the power to do things in the world, things like that. I think it is an important part of being you, doing things in the world.

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:I know why it is kind of scary - I tried not to do any things for a long time - I tried not to want things, I thought that anything I wanted was just a way Melkor could exploit me. And that is not true anymore but there are still - habits. That I want to try to unlearn: 

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That makes sense. That's why we're taking it slow. But - I'm proud of you, and I'm glad you can do things, even if it's a little scary. Even if they're not objectively very dangerous things.

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It feels warm and safe and also confusing, that Maitimo is proud of him. Leareth tries to bask in the positive aspects of it. He's surprisingly tired, too. 

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Sleep song?

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So he will sing Leareth down for a nap and then go catch up on work.

 

That seemed - okay? They should definitely, definitely be taking this slowly but Leareth seemed happy at the end of it. And maybe it really is just one of those things that improves with practice - though actually he should also recommend Melody, he makes a mental note to do that.

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"Are you sure you do not mind?" Leareth asks, when Maitimo brings it up. "I know you feel very private about this." 

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"I feel scared that several people know. It feels like it will get out at some point. But Vanyel was very sure of Melody and I think it'd be really good for you and -" shrug. "If it does get out I will see whether I can weather it. I think my father will back me, if it's you. People will think very poorly of my character but -" Shrug. It's a very tense shrug, though.

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"...I am sorry. I do think talking to Melody would help, and I would trust her discretion, she has a lot of practice with that." Hug?  

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Hug. "It's worth it - you're worth it - I just - spent so long not caring about anything more than I cared about keeping this secret -"

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"I know." He doesn't really know what else to say about it. "Maybe it will change how the Noldor think about it, eventually, that there are other worlds, and all of the Valdemaran leadership think it is fine. And then maybe you will not need to keep it secret in general forever." 

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"That would be nice."

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"...You know this is not a thing about you that is intrinsically bad, right? Just because of how your people feel about it?" 

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" - I know that people can be wrong about things. I don't think you are doing anything wrong, and I don't think less of you for - wanting this."

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"Well, I do not think less of you either. I think you are very good." 

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"But what if the whole war against Melkor was just my evil plot to get the most impressive person in all the worlds to pay attention to me."

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Leareth pretends to look thoughtful, peering at Maitimo. "...I am dubious that you could have pulled it off," he says, smiling a little. 

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"What? Surely if anyone could pull it off it would be me."

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"I suppose it would be even less plausible for anyone else. That is true." Leareth leans his head on Maitimo's shoulder. 

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"Should I ask Melody to come over tomorrow?"

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"Yes, I think that would be good." 

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Melody would be happy to come over tomorrow and check up on how Leareth is doing. 

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Maitimo kind of feels like he should - explain? Or something? Maybe he should let Leareth do that?

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Leareth takes a deep breath and tries to say something but his mind is refusing to give him coherent words. :Maitimo can you please tell her: 

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"Leareth told me a couple of days ago that he wants to pursue an intimate relationship and thinks it will be good for him," he says. "We would like your advice. And your help, if your advice is not 'absolutely do not do that', which would be reasonable advice."

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"Oh." Melody blinks a few time and her hands go more still than usual; other than that, her reaction is impossible to read. "I - hmm - let me think about that for a moment, please." She falls silent. 

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(Leareth is stupidly nervous, and he's trying to hide this and failing utterly.) 

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"Well," Melody says finally, "I have to say I'm very surprised. And - it's certainly unusually delicate to even be attempting, right now. It makes sense that you want my advice and I'm glad you decided to tell me even though it's very private. Leareth, hmm, can you try to tell me some of what you've been thinking and feeling, around this?" 

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Leareth can definitely try! There are a lot of disjointed sentences and long pauses and occasionally flailing at Maitimo for help, but he confesses having accidentally overheard Maitimo's thoughts, which made him consider his own feelings and whether they were romantic in nature. He tries to describe the things that feel good, here - how he's annoyed that literally all of his memories about sex are from Melkor and he wants to...try to reclaim some of that territory. How it's a way of easing into wanting more things and being assertive about what he wants and taking more actions on purpose, and feel very rewarded for it because Maitimo is inevitably proud and happy.

He finds it harder to talk about the difficult parts, which isn't surprising, but he can express that it's often scary for the same reason any other category of wanting things is, and because of all the specific bad associations even though they're trying to be very careful and slow and sidestep as much of that as possible. He says he feels confused about what he wants, a lot, but that he thinks this kind of makes sense. 

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Maitimo will hug him but not help explain very much because he's suddenly worried that this will look to Melody like something he engineered, which would be an awful thing to do but how much more awful than falling in love with a man in the first place, really. 

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Melody waits, very patiently, not interrupting even when it takes Leareth six tries to say something.

"I'm not going to tell you not to," she says, when he's done. She sounds a bit tired. "I think it's - risky, but you know that, I doubt I'm adding any new information here. And it sounds like you've been navigating things pretty sensibly so far and not expecting everything to just instantly work. I do want you to talk to me about what you're feeling, all right? Don't try to ignore your feelings even if they're being very inconvenient and in the way." 

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Nod. "I know. I am trying not to." 

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She smiles at him, and then meets Maitimo's eyes. :I assume you don't need to be told to be really, really careful with him?: 

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I know. I'm really nervous about this, honestly, just - also nervous about telling him he can't have things he managed to notice we both want because he's too fragile -

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:I know. I don't want to tell him that either, and - well, it's Leareth, he's usually pretty smart about things. If I think he's at risk of hurting himself, I'll make a case for it to him and hopefully get his buy-in on waiting. Anyway. I...just wanted to say, he seems to have a lot riding on this, it feels very high-stakes to him and I don't totally understand why. I guess he loves you a lot, that's a new experience for him, and he's probably pretty afraid of screwing it up: 

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Okay. I will - try to make sure that doesn't happen.

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:...I'm finding myself a bit worried that he's already pushing himself too hard, on some dimension. Knowing him, I'm concerned he'll fall back on just trying to override emotions he finds inconvenient rather than being patient with them, I don't think he's used to - his mind not always working the way he wants it to. I don't know what to do about it other than remind him a lot that it's normal to be finding this hard and he should be expecting things to take time. And making sure I check in with him. I should probably come by more often, for the next bit: 

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I think that's a good idea. And - yeah, I would expect him to do that. I will try to make sure we don't - rush anything.

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Nod. :It would have been better if this hadn't come up for a few more months, I think - or years - but it did. And - he loves you, I have no doubt of that, even if he wasn't thinking to call it that before:

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I hadn't been planning to let him notice for - decades, if it seemed necessary - I really did not want - Sigh. 

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:I know. It's not your fault: 

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"You know I won't be upset if you abruptly change your mind about anything, right -"

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"I know. I am - I hope I will not, but - I am sort of expecting that I will have weird unpredictable emotions about things, and be more scared sometimes." 

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"And that's completely okay and I won't be disappointed and you shouldn't ignore it, it'll only make it harder in the long run."

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Nod. 

"...I feel kind of scared right now. I think because - I know you and Melody were talking, just now, I am sure she just wanted to make sure we were - being careful and not stupid about this, but - I suppose I find it disorienting, when there is context I do not know about. You do not have to tell me if it is private, though." 

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"Just that we were being careful, and that it seemed - really really important to you, for some reason. And the thing I just told you about not ignoring your feelings when they're inconvenient."

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–Leareth goes still. He isn't sure why it's so terrifying for Maitimo to say that - for Melody to have brought it up at all...

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Hey. It's okay. I'm sorry. I'm not - going to use it against you or something, I promise.

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:I know: Hug? 

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Hug. 

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He's very tired again, even though Melody didn't do any actual Mindhealing this time. :I need a nap, I think. Could you sing the sleep song?: 

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Of course.

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He goes for a walk.

 

 

 

 

It is really not great how apparently this is the most important thing in the universe to Leareth and also half the time it's randomly traumatizing! He's pretty stressed about it! He can do it, he can help Leareth get what he wants and not be miserable about it, he can make sure everything works, but it feels really hard and insurmountable and like it could've been nice if not for stupid Angband even though probably he couldn't have had it at all without Angband - and that would have been better, it would have been better to have Leareth intact and at a polite distance -

- this is his fault -

- he needs to get back to work. He takes the long way around the island and then does that.

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Leareth wakes up from his nap feeling - a lot better, actually. He's not sure what he was so painfully anxious about, before. Things are fine; things are really good, actually. 

(He loves Maitimo so much...)

He gets up and catches up his notes, making them very cryptic. He spends a while remembering what they've done so far - Maitimo petting his hair, playing with Maitimo's hair which is the softest thing in the universe - and he tries to notice and acknowledge all of his feelings, even the inconvenient ones. Of which there are some, there's a sense of confusion in the background still, and touching Maitimo was pretty overwhelming. He thinks it won't be as stressful in the future, though, a lot of it was that it was new, new and different things are always harder now. (Someday he'll be really, properly okay again and that won't be true anymore. He hopes.) And it was still good - in memory it's less loud and so he can focus on the nice parts of it more.

:I am thinking about you: he tells Maitimo eventually. 

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Does that mean I should come over?

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:If you like! For a little while. I think I should not try to push myself too hard today, since I was so anxious about things before: He wants to reassure Maitimo that he's definitely being careful about that. 

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I agree! I can come over for a little while, though.

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:I look forward to it: And he's waiting to hug Maitimo. 

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:Not yet. I should: 

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Leareth seems happy and affectionate and about as relaxed as he ever is. 

:Goodnight. I love you: 

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Love you.

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Maitimo doesn't suggest any new activities, and Leareth - has no idea what would be next, actually, literally all his context on sex acts that exist is based on Melkor hallucinations which he should probably just ignore entirely as a source.

He thinks about Maitimo and how much he loves him a lot. He - is mostly not scared that Maitimo is going to leave, right now. It does seem like this is harder than he expected, for himself but also for Maitimo. But - it's going to get easier, he thinks, and it seems to. Touching Maitimo's hair is less overwhelming the second time they do it, and the third time he doesn't have to hold any of himself back and can just enjoy it. Except for the random stupid flinch-reactions that occasionally happen, usually he can't even figure out what the bad association is. He tries to not be annoyed with it, and just wait and move on.

He tries to be pretty honest with Maitimo about what he's feeling, because Maitimo wants information on how to make Leareth happy (because he's wonderful). Usually what he's feeling is happy, which he endorses, and scared, which he wishes he didn't but is understandable, or confused, and confused about why, but...shrug, that just seems to be a thing. 

It takes three weeks before he can confidently say that this is - comfortable, fine, he's barely having to do any emotion-wrangling in the background to keep it that way.

:I am - quite happy with how things are now: he tells Maitimo the next time they're together, cuddling, :but - I would be ready to try more things and see what it is like. If you want: 

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What I want depends very much on what you want. He kisses his forehead.

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:–I think I would like kissing you. It is - likely to also be very overwhelming at first, but...I want to try at some point: 

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It seems like a good next thing to try. I can hold still, and it's fine if it's stressful the first time - or not all that much fun ever, not everyone cares too much for kissing...

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:That is good to know - I do not think I have ever kissed anyone in this body, and I do not retain complete memories from previous lives so if I enjoyed kissing in the past I do not recall it now...: He shuts up, because that's skirting dangerously close to the topic Maitimo doesn't want to speak of. 

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You seemed very lonely, when I first met you.

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:I am not sure if I would have said I felt lonely, at the time. But - I was certainly very alone, either way. I had - colleagues, including some I trusted a great deal, but - never more than that: 

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I don't think you would have said you felt lonely. It wouldn't have helped, right. But - but you looked it. It felt like - being in a place where no one was specifically trying to destroy your allies - was a gift. Or would have been, if we hadn't - I'm so sorry -

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:Not your fault...: He's suddenly crying, though. At least it's not as startling and confusing as it was at the beginning; of course it makes sense to be upset, a lot of very upsetting things happened, it doesn't help to cry about it as often as he does but additionally being frustrated with himself about that won't help either. 

...He tentatively shares that line of thought with Maitimo; he doesn't directly share thoughts as often now but he sometimes misses it and this one seems fine. 

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It was my - I was the person who was deciding what to do, and it happened, so the reason it happened is that I didn't think of something. Even if I don't know what, exactly. He reaches out to hug him. I love you. I wish it hadn't happened like this.

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Leareth cries on him for a while. That part isn't exactly new to them being in a relationship, but - it feels different, now. He feels loved and cared for; it's not confusing, anymore, why Maitimo is bothering to stay and comfort him.

He also feels a little bit scared, because it's out in the open, now, how much he needs Maitimo, and because even all of this doesn't guarantee that Maitimo won't leave.

:Maybe we can try kissing tomorrow: he says finally, shakily. :It does not seem like I am very up for that today:

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I will wait as long as you need. He wiggles, and his voice is teasing. Very patiently.

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That is both reassuring and somehow terrifying, but the latter is a quieter emotion and Leareth can tell it it's not being helpful until it subsides. 

The next day, when he's had some time to nudge his emotions into cooperating with this plan, he tries kissing Maitimo while Maitimo holds very still. The first couple of times it's impossible to tell if he likes it because the main thing he's experiencing is OVERWHELM, but that's pretty much what he was expecting and he can get non-overwhelming cuddles to calm down. 

Once he's gotten used to it a little and the novelty in itself is less terrifying - and he's gotten Melody to put in some redirects away from a couple of fake memories that are not that similar but still reminder-y - Leareth is of the opinion that he quite likes kissing Maitimo, actually, as long as he's starting out relaxed and actually in the mood for touch. 

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He feels stressed all the time, though he can't pin down why. Everything's fine. Leareth is taking more actions intended to accomplish his goals, is making progress at them. It's probably really good for him. It is admittedly a lot more fun to kiss people who aren't suppressing a panic attack about it but that's so unfair, having this thing and only sitting around comparing it to some other thing that can't exist anymore. And it'll get better with time. It is getting better with time. 

He tries not to dwell on any of this around Leareth because the last thing he needs is to get some sense that he's being burdensome. He kisses him and tells him that he's wonderful and loved and that he doesn't mind the panic attacks, except for how they make him want to kill Melkor, which he has already done.

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(Maitimo is successfully hiding any visible signs of stress, Leareth cannot tell at all.)

Leareth is, for the most part, very happy! It's really good to feel more in control of his own mind, capable of setting small goals and working toward them and knowing this is helping shape the world toward what he wants. He rarely thinks about the fact that, here, 'what he wants' is for Maitimo not to leave, thinking about it too explicitly is scary and bad-feeling and therefore unhelpful and so he avoids that mental motion. Also, nearly everything they've tried is pleasant and intrinsically rewarding once he's made it through the overwhelm of doing something new, and it's good to have more options for things in his life that are...nice. It's slower and more effortful than he'd hoped and he has to push through a lot of mental resistance before getting to the part where it's nice, but being frustrated about that is unhelpful, so he tries to recalibrate his expectations, and things are fine, he loves Maitimo so much and wants him to be happy and he's hopeful. 

He's sharing somewhat more thoughts with Maitimo, although still a lot less than before, but this could be partly because he less often loses the ability to communicate in words. 

...And at some point the obvious next thing that comes up, is for Maitimo's clothes to come off. The best way to do this and steer around all the worst associations is for Leareth to do all the undressing, stay completely in control of it. His mind is nonetheless producing an infuriating amount of internal resistance to the idea. He tries to be gentle with his emotions for a while, like Melody was advising, but at some point it seems like being gentle is not accomplishing any progress here. He feels very stuck. 

"I think that I may just need to get through it once and then it would be easier," he tells Maitimo, while they're cudding. "I think the difficulty is probably that - I have no pleasant associations with - this entire space of things - and if I had one more recent and salient memory of it being fine and nothing bad happening, I could actually make progress from there?"

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"Mmmm. Okay. And maybe promise yourself that that's all, that nothing else will happen? I'm not - actually very sure how this ought to work -" I wish you had needed some other thing, some thing that didn't feel so much like hurting you - "but I think if you're pushing yourself like that you want to  - stop there, and know you will..."

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"Yes, I agree. And - if I start and it is too overwhelming I will stop. And I think I will ask Melody if she can help at all. Maybe she can block the associations somewhat, just for now to make it less intensely scary." Sigh. "I realize it is a stupid thing to be scared of, now, and I wish telling myself that would change it, but - I am not actually expecting it to work that way, I understand why I have that feeling." 

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"I don't think it's a stupid thing to be scared of. Talking to Melody sounds like a really good idea."

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Melody is honestly kind of dubious about this plan! She makes a few, kind of halfhearted attempts to dissuade Leareth, but one of the facts about Leareth is that he is very goal-oriented and very stubborn and - mostly those are useful traits to have. She would very confidently expect this to be a disaster for anyone else, but she's less confident for Leareth in particular because he's quite unusual.

She can put in a temporary block for him; she warns him that this isn't a perfect fix and he needs to pay attention to what he's feeling, she's concerned that him ignoring his anxiety and pushing through anyway might actually backfire.

:I wish I could convince him to take it slower than this: she tells Maitimo, :but, well, he's Leareth. I think he already feels like he's going slowly, which I guess is true relative to his baseline of 'can just do the things he wants without any complication': 

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Maybe I should be trying hard to convince him too. I've been figuring he knows what he wants and it feels hostile, trying to convince him he doesn't. But maybe he doesn't.

 

So he has a go at this. "Do you think maybe we can try it in a couple of months?"

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"I am not sure why it would be any different now versus a few months from now." 

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"Well, Melody thought that time might help."

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“Is the mechanism supposed to be just that more time means I will have weaker priors of bad things happening in general? So far I think I have found that time passing does not change how I feel as much as - trying to do more things. Maybe years would help, but - well, I am already tired of being scared of so many things, and I would like to try to address that sooner than years.” 

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"That makes sense." Hug. "I'm proud of you. And I think you're doing really well. If you want to try right away, we can."

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Snuggle. "Tomorrow?"

For this obstacle in particular, Leareth is having more trouble chasing motivation by imagining the pleasant thing he'll be able to have if he can be less scared, maybe especially because he's promising himself that he will do this and nothing else; his mind is refusing to simulate anything in detail past that point, which is sort of reasonable because when he tried before he ended up stuck in very unpleasant memories, and that's why he asked Melody to do a block. 

Maitimo will be proud of him, though. He wants that, and all he has to do is some straightforward actions that are not going to result in anything bad happening. 

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"Sure, tomorrow." And he sings to him, and holds him, and - there's a nice thing on the other end of this, he just has to be patient -

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And so the next day, after a long walk to prepare himself, Leareth asks Maitimo to come over. Spends a while cuddling him and kissing a little, all the things he usually enjoys, to remind himself that there are more things like that, he just can't access them yet. He can't get himself to stop feeling on edge, but of course he's nervous, that's not new information and doesn't mean anything is wrong, it's just one of a billion false alarms his mind screams at him constantly. 

:I love you: he sends, and starts taking off Maitimo's shirt. 

- wow, the part of him that's busy being scared of everything, but usually pretty quietly, really doesn't want to be doing this. But that's also not new information; he knows why this is especially nervewracking, and he would like it to stop being that way and he has a plan. 

And this isn't an intractable amount of internal resistance, yet, so Leareth keeps executing his plan, Maitimo is holding still for it like he promised. It doesn't matter if his heart is racing and his mouth is dry and he feels dizzy and half out of his own body, he can keep all of that internal where it doesn't affect the world; all he needs to do is do it anyway and then observe, see, nothing bad happening as a consequence–

- panicking isn't going to help so he won't, that is not the thing happening here - 

He slips off Maitimo's shirt - success! ...probably enough success for today, this is hard, he feels like the ground is slipping out from under his feet - and he kisses Maitimo's forehead and then leans back to look at him - 

Vanyel, naked, holding him down, speaking in Sauron's voice - 

And then Leareth's experience is entirely consumed by PANICPANICPANIC, with no room left for anything like 'tracking where he is', and he does the only thing that he can, goes limp and pulls back from having any opinions or wants or goals, tries not to have any thoughts at all...

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- he has little panic attacks, sometimes, he says it's fine, but this seems significantly worse than that. He holds still, because probably it'll be even worse if he moves - reminds himself not to look stressed or concerned, to always look content and proud and happy and relaxed and a safe person -

 

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It's okay, it's okay. You're safe.

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It’s not quite as bad as after the attack on them at Cuivienen, when it took Leareth hours to really become aware of his surroundings again, but it’s still minutes before Leareth is capable of even semi-coherent thoughts, and he’s still very disoriented, curled up facing away from Maitimo on the bed with his eyes closed, if he doesn’t move then, then - then nothing, really, whatever was going to happen will happen to him anyway...

- no, that’s not right - what - he had a plan - 

Maitimo is still there - Maitimo is telling him he's safe - but he isn't, because he tried and he couldn't do the thing, he can't give Maitimo anything because he's too broken - he thought he could have the right feelings but his mind doesn't work and that's the worst part, how is anything ever going to be okay again if he can't ever carry out plans -

He's dizzy and terrified and he desperately wants - something, some sort of help, he doesn't know what - and he can't get enough of his mind working to manage Mindspeech in words, so he flailingly puts that thought in the open where Maitimo can see it. 

(And accidentally is putting all of his thoughts where Maitimo can see them–)

He's so sorry and ashamed and everything hurts - he was trying -

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What - 

 

 

 

- and he looks back through several months of - 

- he opens his mouth to say something but he can't do that, he can't be angry, he agreed to do this utterly stupid utterly awful thing and he can't be angry, now, that apparently it was a lie - half a lie - a lie that Leareth was mostly telling himself - though he stopped sharing his thoughts - of course he stopped sharing his thoughts - which suggests at least some conscious awareness that there were things that had to be concealed, or Maitimo would never agree to this -

- anyway this is the kind of thing that under any other circumstance he would be very angry about, and he would stand up and storm out and - 

- and sing until he could think, he can't think right now, he can think around the edges of it but not about the core thing, but he doesn't need to be able to think to notice that he is not allowed to be angry, not allowed to leave, he gave up the right to have any feelings about this when he agreed to do it at all and now he can just stay here and hold his face gentle and - think of something to say, except he can't think, not being able to be angry makes it awfully difficult to be able to do anything at all apparently, if being angry is all of the next thirty items on his to-do list -

"You don't need to be sorry for anything," he says, once lying comes back online, which it does well in advance of thinking. "You don't need to figure this out. I don't need you to figure this out. Did - did you think that I needed you to figure this out -" why even ask it's only going to make it harder not to be angry and he can't -

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:I - no - I...: 

Leareth is distantly aware that Maitimo seems - he seems not upset exactly, but something, something different from before even though his voice is still gentle - and he's creepingly aware, as well, that there's the layer of feelings that aren't the ones he wants to be having, and now Maitimo's seen that - and he loves Maitimo, so much, he's really really sure that he does but he doesn't know if that by itself is enough - he doesn't even know what 'enough' would mean, except that in this moment he's crushingly certain that he isn't, and that Maitimo is going to leave -

He keeps leaving all his thoughts open to Maitimo anyway, which is terrifying, but everything is terrifying and he isn't strong enough, right now, to pull together the pieces of himself from here - he has nothing even resembling a plan from here - it's the most frustrating thing in the world but he just can't. 

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Gently - "I'm not going to leave." Even though he'd really really like to, because this is ridiculous, this is horrifying -

- this is some kind of game where the whole point is to make sure he doesn't have enough cards to do anything right - 

"I'm never going to leave when you're not ready." Which hurts, to say, because you probably shouldn't make promises to people you are very very angry at while pretending everything is fine - but he can't leave, so he might as well give himself more reasons he can't leave -

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Leareth is slightly reassured. He's still too upset to think straight, mostly with himself for - he's not sure what, but this is not at all the position he wanted to end up so clearly something he did up to this was wrong, and he hates that he can't stay in control of anything, anymore, even when that thing is himself, he can't even keep his own thoughts and feelings straight–

As soon as the panic recedes even a little he's so exhausted, he feels like he used up all his mental resources dealing with the part where doing things is scary, and now there's none of him left to handle the fact that not doing things is also scary and it doesn't feel like he can chart a path from here to everything being okay. He mostly just wants this moment to stop happening - to stop being conscious for a while - and also Maitimo is never going to leave when he's not ready but it would be polite of him to be ready at some point...

:Can you - can you just - hold me and sing me to sleep: He doesn't say or think that he's sorry again, because Maitimo told him not to, but he's still kind of feeling it in the background. 

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Of course.

He sings. 

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It's still hard to relax enough that sleep is possible, but eventually the sheer exhaustion carries him there. 

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- he wants to go outside and think but firstly he still can't, not where anyone might see him, and secondly he's worried that once he does it'll be very very hard to stop halfway through and come back and - 

- no. He can do this. He can arrive in fits and starts at whatever beliefs he actually wants to have, right now it's mostly just a roiling mess of not-allowed-to-be-anger, and in the meantime he can act entirely normal. He has been working on that skillset for a long time and just because it's hard to think right now doesn't mean he can't count on himself, there.


He leaves. He goes to his office and does some paperwork and thinks.

 

Leareth believes that Maitimo is a horrible person. This makes sense, since Maitimo has been proving it for the entire duration of their acquaintance. Leareth believes that Maitimo will - get bored, or something, decide to push the point or maybe just wander off - if Leareth isn't interested in sex. So he's spent the last several months trying to be. This was a horrible thing to do, but it makes sense, because if you believe you are in the custody of a horrible person then all of your options are horrible. Maitimo could absoutely have predicted this. If he had expanded his circle of advisors to include literally anyone who understood that Maitimo was evil and disgusting they would have thought of it first thing. He filtered the people he'd talk to, to exclude the utterly obvious viewpoint on the whole situation and then none of them could identify what was wrong with it even though they did have a vague sense that something was.

What's wrong here, he'd asked himself so many times, and the answer had been staring him in the face all along, the whole time. You are attracted to men, that's what's wrong here.  If not for that, everything would be fine, and as long as that was true nothing could possibly be fine. 

It makes a lot of sense. It makes him feel less angry. More of some other equally distracting emotions but 'not angry' seems like an improvement in his emotional state, on the whole. 

He should talk to someone but he can't. Even being able to identify 'not talking to someone' as the mistake before, he can't. He can vaguely distantly promise himself that he'll talk to someone before he actually goes to Lórien about it - he owes Findekáno that - but he's not going to be able to do that any time soon anyway, he'd be gone for weeks and he just promised Leareth that he wouldn't leave. And if he explains why Leareth will be upset, even though he'd be much happier with the end result. He will have to wait a couple of decades and come up with an explanation that runs along completely different lines and then Leareth won't have hurt feelings. In the meantime he can just say that he doesn't think they should try again - no, that's not going to be persuasive - he can get Leareth to admit what he did here and then say gently that he didn't want that and then hopefully it'll be over -

- he's doing a terrible job of the paperwork but that doesn't matter -

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Leareth sleeps fitfully, manages not to wake up all the way each time he gets close, in his half-asleep state he can't remember why he doesn't want to be awake but he knows there's some reason. 

He wakes up, and considers Mindspeaking Maitimo like usual, and...doesn't. It feels like there's a very big pileup of - things wrong - and he can actually finish thoughts now that he's calmer but he still can't unpack the layers of where and what he screwed up. He can predict, vaguely, that Maitimo is going to be upset about at least one of those layers, but he goes in circles when he tries to figure out how to apologize, how to repair it - if it's possible to repair it... It might not be totally irrecoverable, Maitimo said he wasn't going to leave, but - well, the ultimate issue is that Leareth doesn't know how to put weight on - promises that he doesn't fully understand.

...He is so incredibly not going to be able to resolve this on his own. Which means that it's the sort of thing where he would normally ask Maitimo for help thinking it through, but that just feels like tangling and muddying things even more. He considers asking Vanyel - gods, at least he's finally somewhat less scared of being in the same room as Vanyel - but he doesn't, actually, think this is something Vanyel is well placed to give advice on. He imagines trying to explain it and just getting a startled-rabbit look and confusion. 

Deep breaths. :Melody?: 

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A while later, Melody crosses the island, not rushed exactly but moving briskly, and lets herself into Leareth's room. She looks a little worried but mostly her expression is level. 

"Something's wrong?" 

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Leareth gets about three words into mentally formulating an explanation, and then gives up and drops his shields against Thoughtsensing; the room itself is shielded so it's fine, it won't go any further than that. :Can you - just look - I feel very confused...: 

He is pretty scared to let her look, for unclear reasons, partly because he expects she's going to - try to stop him from doing things in the future, maybe, try to constrain his option even more, but he can't unpack that thread all the way and besides, it's not like he has better options anyway. 

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A while later, a somewhat shaken Melody promises Leareth she isn't going far and will be right back, and sticks her head out the door so she can Mindspeak Maitimo. 

:It's me. Leareth asked me to come over. I - figure you're aware that–: He's aware of the whole mess and so she doesn't have to try to condense that size of mess into a sentence. :Um. I made a really bad mistake here and I'm incredibly sorry: 

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I'm not angry, he says reflexively, his tone about the same as it'd be if she'd dropped a teacup and it'd broken. I can come over if you think it'd be helpful, or if he asked. I told him I would come over if he asked.

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:He hasn't asked yet. All he's done is ask me to read his mind, I think he's having a lot of that problem he gets where he's too overwhelmed to communicate otherwise. I - hmm. Obviously both of you need to talk about this, and - I think he owes you at least something of an apology, I imagine this was extremely upsetting for you to stumble into, but right now he's very tangled up in about five different layers of what he thinks he's apologizing for, and most of them are wrong, so. Probably not productive to have that conversation just yet. And - he's wanting to know what you're thinking and feeling now, and probably he should eventually, but I also think that won't be productive and is unfair to both of you to address when you haven't had a chance to process it not at him. So. What I'm inclined to do is talk with him a little more, get him settled, maybe ask Vanyel to keep him company for a while, and then we can talk in private, if you're up for that: 

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Sure, that works. I think he should at no point know what I'm thinking, really, but maybe we can arrange something else that will help him feel more oriented.

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Melody doesn't respond for a moment because she's busy making a face. :Of course. I'll Mindspeak you when I'm done here: 

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He still can't really think and doesn't like it but he continues to appear to be doing something until she calls for him.

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Vanyel is summoned to sit with Leareth for the next few hours and keep him distracted by reading or singing to him. Nobody enlightens him as to why and he doesn't ask. 

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Melody Mindspeaks Maitimo again and asks where would be a good private place to talk. 

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She can come to his office if she would like.

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She will do that. She sits down and looks sheepish but does not immediately bury her face in both hands like she wants to. "Do you have that privacy mage-thingy still?" 

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"Yes." He activates it. 

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Sigh. "If I were in your shoes, right now, I think I'd be feeling pretty upset and angry and wronged by him, and also like I had no right to feel any of those things at him given, well, everything. I'm not you, of course, so I don't know, but - well, I think it'd help you a lot, and thus help Leareth a lot, if you were able to voice all of it to me and unpack things here, even if you're not ever going to say those things to him. Neither am I, obviously. I keep a lot of people's secrets. So?" 

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"I'm not angry with him. I wish he had had different expectations about me but I have for a long time had available the option of - getting it fixed, being someone he could have had better expectations about, and - not taken it - and so it is not very fair to be angry that he concluded what he apparently concluded. He was wrong, but - I might have done the same thing, if I felt like I needed to, so the problem is that he felt like he needed to."

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Melody blinks, tugs her sleeve straight. "Hmm - I'm sorry, I think there's some assumption in there that's not specified all the way, because I'm not following," she says mildly. 

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Sigh. "If I had been following Quendi sexual ethics at all this would not have happened. I decided they were stupid. Actually, they were not stupid. They were meant to prevent things like this from happening. This was a valuable thing to learn and I wish it had not involved Leareth hurting himself though I think I was being too thickheaded to learn it without someone being hurt because my whole assumption was that maybe it could exist without hurting people."

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Melody still looks kind of confused. "Ethics about - not having a romantic relationship with someone who's sort of your prisoner? I feel like we tried pretty hard to weigh that, and either of us may have made a mistake given what we knew at the time but I don't think it's an obvious one, actually." 

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"No, broader than that, outside of marriage. It was obviously not an appropriate situation for marriage and so it was not an appropriate situation for anything. I know that humans do not even have our concept of marriage and I am not speculating particularly on what humans ought to do with each other."

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Melody looks very nonplussed. "I - um - maybe? There may be something there that's a decent heuristic, but - I don't actually feel like the details of this are necessarily contingent on your species?" Frown. "Or that you're both men, if it's about that. I - it seems in the hypothetical like the exact same thing might've happened with Vanyel instead, though not in this exact situation given the specifics. Or, hmm, also the hypothetical where you happened to be a woman still feels coherent, if we're looking at - just the general shape of misunderstanding that can happen between people. I do suppose that miscommunications happen more easily between cultures but that's hardly your fault. This is mostly - well, I think my mistake here was not remembering that Leareth specifically finds people caring about him unconditionally to be confusing and hard to handle, because even before Angband his priors were that - that didn't happen, at least not for him. I kept noticing I felt confused and worried but couldn't name a specific thing, and I didn't..." Shrug. 

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"So he concluded that I wanted something, and the reason he concluded that I wanted sex instead of that I wanted - magical artifacts made after he recovered, or to be well known to be associated with him, or something that wouldn't have blown up like this - is that there's something wrong with me where I do, in contexts where I shouldn't, and he read my mind and found out. And had he read anyone else's mind it wouldn't have gone as badly because they do not have that specific thing wrong with them."

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"Finding him attractive? Hellfires, find him attractive. I've never asked Vanyel if he does because why would I but I wouldn't be that surprised. I'm not additionally in love with him, but nineteen-year-old me would absolutely fancy him in secret, I really do not feel like this is a you-specific problem." 

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"What do you think he needs from me right now."

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"Right now I think he needs you to - talk to him at all, and be calm and predictable. And clearly explain that you don't want a romantic relationship with him under these particular conditions, and also that you aren't going to leave - er, I assume that's still true? I think it would be helpful if you could tell him what you wish he had done instead, and maybe why you find what he did do hurtful, although I think you should not currently tell him that you're angry about it too. I don't think it will help for you to explain that the problem was you being attracted to men, because he's just going to argue that it's not." 

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"Yeah, I wasn't planning to explain that. I think I can do the rest."

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Sigh. "I'm not sure how to get through to him about one of the core things, which is that he should absolutely not be trying to scheme for people to not abandon him, trying to solve that problem is going to create a worse problem. I get why it's scary for him to be putting a lot of emotional weight on believing other people will be there to help anyway. He's used to having plans and being in control of things and he really hates not having that, but this is so unhelpful right now. Also, I - don't think he actually understands why this was a bad idea for him, in addition to being very unkind to you, and was likely to result in him getting badly hurt. I don't know how to convey that either. It seems so obvious." 

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"Isn't he...in fact badly hurt right now?"

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"He's pretty confused about what he's feeling right now! I think he's hurting a lot in the short run but it's not clear that he's significantly more traumatized about - the general category of thing - than he was going into this, and I think that before yesterday, he was actually doing okay on net, despite this being a terrible idea and very unfair to you. I should try to find him something else where he can set goals for himself in small increments and feel good about getting more in control of what happens in his head."

Shrug. "He will be very badly hurt if you actually leave. If you don't, he's going to eventually notice that the bad outcome he was most scared of didn't happen and maybe eventually he'll relax about it." 

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" - I mean, if some normal person I was dating did this I would absolutely leave. But I can't, so, I won't."

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Nod. "...I understand that. I think it makes a lot of sense to be angry. Just - hmm. If some normal person you were dating did this, I think it would say a lot more about their character, and what they thought of your character? Since they'd be implicitly saying that they thought you were a horrible person. I don't think this is much of a predictor of future Leareth, and I don't think it comes from him thinking you're horrible; he has a very high opinion of you, actually. He's just really traumatized. He has predictable feelings of being worthless to everyone, predictable anticipations that people will hurt him, and he feels out of control and was - looking for anything that would let him feel safer. None of that is about you. I really wish he had picked literally anything else because this is such a goddamned mess, but..."

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" - it seems like probably some of it was about - predictions of me. Like that I'd go for it at all. But - I agree that it doesn't say much about what he will be like when he has recovered, and - we owe him everything. Even if it would be nice if he just wanted to murder us all for his plans in Velgarth or something uncomplicated like that."

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"I almost think he was right about that by accident, since my sense is that a lot of it was you feeling that you owe him everything he needs to be happy. And that this was very hard for you even before this, but you wanted to - respect his right to want things, I guess. I don't think he saw that side of it at all."

Melody tugs at the collar of her robes. "Anyway. Is there anyone you trust and can talk to about this? I probably am missing a lot of what this is like for you, because of the species and cultural differences, and also I'm primarily Leareth's Mindhealer so that's - there's some weirdness. Apart from the fact that I think you would benefit from it, I also think that doing your best for Leareth now means processing all of your feelings, somewhere else. Rather than trying to squish them. That's a big chunk of what he was doing wrong this entire time." 

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"I am not traumatized and a better liar. And I think I have processed my feelings about it, and just need time to feel a bit more distant from them."

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Melody seems kiiiind of dubious of this, but she smooths away the expression and lets it slide. "All right. need to - go for a walk, and maybe throw some rocks off the cliff very hard because I'm frustrated with myself and would like to be stewing on it less when I talk to him. You could go over now or wait. It's no rush, he's fine– well, he's distracted right now at least, Vanyel is keeping him company."

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"I will maybe go for a walk first too, then."

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She nods. Heads off in the opposite direction from him, arms folded. 

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He goes for a walk. He doesn't - really - process things, he is pretty sure his state is stable right now and if he tries to get back to being angry that won't help much. Talking with Findekáno will probably help but he hasn't told Melody about Findekáno.

Findekáno will be so angry with him. He can't quite model about what exactly but he'll be so angry.

 

 

He goes to find Leareth once he's been for a walk.

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Melody is back just ahead of him; she goes in, holds the door open until he catches up. 

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Leareth is sitting in bed, looking reasonably well-rested and alert and not panicked although kind of anxious. He nods at Maitimo without quite looking at him. 

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"I'll, er, leave," Vanyel, who still has no idea what's going on here, says quietly, closing the book he was reading to Leareth. 

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Melody closes the door behind him. Sits, hands folded over her knee. "All right. Time to have an honest, adult conversation about this." 

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Leareth looks like he maybe wants to say something but is getting intractably stuck on the 'words' part. 

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"I get the sense that there was a lot of stuff about your internal state you were not communicating because you thought if I noticed it I would give up on having an intimate relationship with you at this point in your recovery."

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...All right he's just going to Mindspeak, that's easier than talking. :Some things. I am sorry - I thought...: Leareth is no longer sure what he was thinking at any given moment.

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That you could make it work, and that if you didn't make it work I was going to leave, so you had to make it work. And that one should be ruthless about survival goals, not cooperative about them.

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That is a very - harsh - encapsulation of it but Leareth can't say it's wrong

:I did not think you were definitely going to leave otherwise! I, just - I was so scared that you might, and that it was - outside my control - I thought there was a state of the world that would be better for both of our goals. Where I was in love with you and wanted you back. I thought it was almost true already - I do love you, I would not have thought to call it that, but... Melody says I was wrong that I could get there, I was just going to hurt myself, and - that most people would feel hurt and lied to by what I did:

He bows his head, miserably. :I - did not think of that - I am sorry - I thought you would not want to do it anymore if you knew all of my feelings, because you were trying to be very careful, but - some of them were stupid feelings and I did not want to let stupid feelings determine what I could do. I made a mistake and it was unfair and unkind to you and I am sorry: 

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Not because you also have some stupid scared feelings, because you do not have the feeling of 'being attracted to me'. I tried for thousands of years to start feeling that in a useful direction, it doesn't work.

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Leareth spends thirty seconds or so trying and failing to formulate a response other than 'what?' and then gives up and just shares all his thoughts: 

Leareth had just been making his way towards unconfused and now he's confused again, because he wouldn't have named that as the central problem here, actually. It's difficult to pin down what 'attracted to someone' means when he never considered the question before Angband, and now any thought experiment about what he wants is extremely contaminated by stupid torture memories and fear. But - he wanted Maitimo to hold him, he looked forward to Maitimo touching him, that wasn't an experience he had ever really had before; he liked playing with Maitimo's hair and kissing him once the initial OVERWHELM, which made it impossible to determine how he felt about it really and was also stupid torture contamination that he wanted gone, was past.

He expects Maitimo is not going to want to touch him at all now, which is reasonable of him, but he's also sad about it, about losing something he had only just discovered could be a nice thing, especially right now when his life feels bereft of all the other things he used to take satisfaction in. He thinks in hindsight that he was being stupid in the taking-clothes-off case and should have held off, but he's not sure what could have helped him predict in advance that it would be different - he still kind of expects that there is a nice thing on the other side of that, which he just can't reach because of all the STUPID TORTURE, he's also sad about that and irritated with Melkor for his general terribleness in this area. 

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I think - the reason that trying to do this was worse for you than trying to pet my hair was, uh, that you had a lot more to override - not just a lot more trauma to override, something aside from that -

He glances helplessly at Melody in case she understands what he's trying to say.

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Melody gives him a mild look back. :I'm not actually convinced that the many, many problems with this included Leareth not having the trait of being attracted to men, or at least to you specifically. It's hard for me as well to guess what he'd feel if there were less trauma in the way, but - well, I assume most men who are not attracted to other men would be uninterested or actively averse to kissing them, and he's not lying about enjoying that - he's not wanting it loudly at you, but I don't think he would either way, most of his baseline non-trauma-related emotions are pretty muted: 

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He looks baffled about this, but only briefly. 

- it seems hard, and maybe unfair to Leareth, to argue about which of his feelings are real. But - a piece of information I thought I had yesterday was that you had wanted this, as opposed to just - wanting me to not leave. And that would change a lot, if it were true. Not - not enough to make it a good idea, necessarily, but it'd be different.

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Leareth is both less and more confused now - less because of course someone would feel very hurt and betrayed if they found out he was having a relationship with them that he wasn't even enjoying and was just pretending to for instrumental benefits, he would have been able to predict that in advance. And more because - well, that was very obviously not the thing Maitimo wanted? And so Leareth doing it wouldn't have achieved anyone's goals? So Leareth is pretty sure this in particular wouldn't have seemed like a workable plan if he didn't want it and was faking that the whole time. (Also he's not nearly a good enough actor to fool Maitimo, so it would be stupid from that angle too.)

He - it's hard because he has the usual amount of imperfect recall for past thoughts and emotions he didn't write down - but what he remembers is that he found out Maitimo's feelings, and then introspected on his own feelings, and concluded that he already loved Maitimo anyway and had the necessary wanting-a-romantic-relationship components. Which required some assembling, but that's because he's never done this and so had to do a lot of guessing about what it would even be like.

And obviously that should have been a collaborative thing with Maitimo, rather than something he thought about on his own in secret. And he was also - downplaying the panic and overwhelm, but that's to an extent because he feels like Maitimo treats him more delicately than he endorses treating himself, and in fact the thing that works for him is to ignore the overwhelm or do various other mental motions to make it easier until the scary-novelty part is past and then it's fine and a lot faster than just waiting years. 

...He supposes he's not sure he would want sex even without all the stuff in the way, if it doesn't correlate with wanting to kiss someone or be held by them - he had expected it would, he doesn't have data on this - and also lots of people succeed at enjoying sex and wanting it a lot so it can't be that hard in the abstract. 

He shares all of that, hiding things from Maitimo now just seems like a bad bad plan. And probably should have from the beginning. 

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It's not - I didn't think your plan was to fake it, I thought it might not occur to you that you can't change it to work however's convenient. Well, Quendi can't, not without Lórien. I guess maybe humans can.

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Leareth thinks that– Leareth stops and actually thinks about it.

He...does expect he's better than most humans at, just, deciding to be a certain shape, having his mind do the motions he wants it to do and not the ones he doesn't - he suspects he's done that before but in the direction of not wanting sex, back in Velgarth where the thing he might actually want, a close relationship with a trusted ally who would still be there a thousand years later, wasn't something he could have even in theory.

He's pretty sure he couldn't change it arbitrarily even if it were convenient - probably if Maitimo belonged to a species that looked very ugly to human sensibilities, instead of very aesthetically beautiful the way most Quendi do, he wouldn't have had anything to lean into there. Or - if he were starting from zero, instead of starting from a base of more closeness and intimacy and fondness than he's had with anyone in the last five hundred years, where he already felt safer than anywhere else in Maitimo's arms - he feels like that already is the core thing that would underly him wanting sex with someone too. 

He's done some amount of nudging emotions, though a lot of it was just bothering to notice that 'wanting to touch Maitimo's hair', say, was even a possibility, rather than trying to turn 'not wanting' into 'wanting', he can't generally make that work as a primitive motion. Leaning into an angle he already has usually just works, though, and he's never considered it a problem or a bad thing to do? His mind is frustratingly full of obstacles and traps and pitfalls right now, which - okay, he can see why Melody thought this was a dubious plan and he would just hurt himself, he's probably miscalibrated about what he can and can't do right now. 

He's not sure what the conclusion is here - whether the actual thought process he had is one Maitimo would consider 'wanting it' or 'not wanting it'. So he leaves it hanging between them, for Maitimo to decide for himself. 

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 I think - I don't want to try to navigate that now. But not never, necessarily. ...maybe we can revisit it in a century or something.

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:...All right:

Leareth puts his head down on his knees. He's thoroughly exhausted again, shaken, he just wants something metaphorically solid to hold onto. 

:Can you stay for a bit longer today: 

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Of course.

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Leareth really wishes he could ask Maitimo to hold him, but he shouldn't push that, not for a long time at least. He is very, very glad and relieved about just sharing all of his thoughts again.

:Can - you tell me some of what you are thinking? I know I - do not have a right to all of it, just - it would help. To make sure I - actually understand, now: 

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It might? Or it might make things worse. I'm really not sure. I don't want to scare you again. Glance at Melody.

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:I think it would be a good idea to go off and have a break, after this, and you can take some time to lay out properly what you would want to tell Leareth, and I can judge then if it's just going to cause a lot of damage for no reason. ...I think it's fine if it scares him a little, he'll calm down - he's fine with scaring himself and in most cases I think he's right to be, and I think we shouldn't, actually, be treating him way more gently than he treats himself. I've already told him that there is just about no possible scenario where you actually just abandon him - he could probably upset you enough that you storm off for a few days or weeks to cool down, but I think that's the worst case scenario, am I right? And he knows he can weather that even if it's very miserable, especially since he's substantially less jumpy around Vanyel now. Anyway, I think that limits how much words you say can upset him: 

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Leareth nods in agreement. :I do not mind waiting until later. That - is probably better anyway, so I can - be less upset starting out. I am trying to be less upset now but it takes a long time: 

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I'm not going to leave him while he still wants me. But - some time to think seems good.

 

 

And he heads out to go pace the island. He does not feel like singing.

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Leareth asks Melody to see if Vanyel can come back for a while. He feels better, which is not at all what he expected as the outcome of that conversation, but he still doesn't especially want to be alone.

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Vanyel can come back, and continue not asking what's going on while he reads and sings to Leareth. 

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Possibly they should...tell him? At some point? Leareth is going to consult Maitimo on that, though. Later.  

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Eventually he comes back. Sends to Melody -

 

 

- he's upset because it was very very bad for him, trying to read what Leareth wanted with such bad information, it was like feeling blind and stupid and stressed all the time. He didn't want to hold traumatized body language against Leareth but actually - he thinks he should just not try to do anything that relies on reading people when those people are impossible to read, even if it's not their fault, and also he still suspects that some of why he was having trouble reading it was because Leareth was actually not aroused by anything because Leareth was misinterpreting how sexuality works but that doesn't seem worth arguing about. He's upset because he feels like something awful happened specifically because he was attracted to men even though he was trying to be extremely careful, and exactly one ideology he's encountered predicts that and has an explanation of it, and it's 'being attracted to men will lead you to endless unhealthy parodies of a relationship where you're more interested in sex as a means to an end than in genuinely doing the right thing' and it seems basically true and if everyone he's talked to his whole life is actually right, which doesn't seem like it should be surprising, then he's sad about that. Also and he recognizes this almost contradicts the last thing he's upset that Leareth didn't just wait a decade until maybe this wouldn't have been horrible. 

- and all of that's irrelevant because he is Leareth's, actually, for whatever he wants, including if Leareth still wants to touch him though he expects he won't under these conditions, Leareth was tortured for years trying to save their world and nothing else matters next to that and it hurts that Leareth does not seem capable of understanding that or valuing it but it's still true. 

And he loves him. Still. Though if it were up to him (which it's not, because Leareth was tortured for years trying to save their world) he would in fact not be the slightest bit tempted to do anything with this in the next hundred years. 

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:I think all of that seems quite reasonable to tell him; I think it’ll upset him but - in a way he endorses, because he did a stupid thing and it hurt you. Should I be there or nearby in case he needs help calming down that, er, isn’t from you?:

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I think that's a good idea.

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Melody comes with him and hovers nearby. They evict Vanyel again. 

She glances over at Maitimo.

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He shares all of these thoughts. 

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Leareth absorbs all of that, still and silent. And then starts crying. 

He hadn't realized. This is the opposite of what he wanted. If he had guessed that this entire thing would be very bad for Maitimo - he just wanted him to be happy, for both of them to be happy. It's really upsetting that this is reinforcing the deeply frustrating Quendi ideology about sexuality, and obviously now there is no productive way for him to argue with that. Actually it seems like he should not be having goals or trying to shape the world toward what he wants, still, because all he's managed to accomplish is breaking things and making them worse. And it feels like he should have been able to see this coming and - not do the stupid thing - but he didn't, did he.

He's glad to know all of Maitimo's thoughts, even though it hurts; it was worse not being able to even see how much damage he's caused. 

It's still kind of bouncing off, the part where Maitimo has for some reason - for reasons that in fact make sense - decided to unconditionally offer his help as long as Leareth needs it. But he suspects that's his fault, some sort of distortion in his thoughts that he can't manage to see around. 

And - he loves Maitimo and wants him to be happy and it seems like he should actually stop acting toward that goal, because he is not yet capable of making plans that work, but - he still feels it.

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You could just stick to plans that don't involve keeping lots of things secret! There are lots of plans that are much more - possible to correct if they have concerning elements - than this one!

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Sure, he can try doing that. (Right now he feels dubious that anything he proposes is going to ever be a good idea, but he supposes he can eventually make his way to plans that work by coming up with ones that don't and having other people point out the problems.)

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"Do you want a hug."

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Leareth has been assuming that Maitimo is not really in a mood to hug him right now and won't be for a while, which seems like a proportionate consequence for - all of this. He does, however, quite badly want a hug. 

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Maitimo hugs him, though admittedly much more stiffly than usual. 

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:Thank you. For - not being angry: He is pretty sure at this point that Maitimo would be very angry if anyone else had done this to him, and is holding that back specifically because it will hurt Leareth a lot, which is true, it would be so terrifying.

He's not especially scared right now - well, not more than the baseline level, which isn't zero, but mostly he feels tired and sad and ashamed. 

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Hug. Sigh. 

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:Can you sing me to sleep before you go?: 

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Yes. 

 

And he does that.

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:That went about as well as I could possibly expect: Melody seems relieved. :Thank you. I understand that you feel you owe him everything, and that's fair, just - I also recognize that you're navigating a really difficult situation here, and I appreciate it: 

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Thank you. 

Are we explaining things to Vanyel? I feel like asking him to a Gate to Vinyamar with no explanation is very rude.

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:I don't think he'll consider it especially rude if you ask for a Gate and don't explain why. Though I do think he should have the context, in the longer run - he's going to notice that, er, things are different between you, and Leareth may want more support from him in order to give you space: 

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Maybe I will ask for the Gate now and promise to explain afterwards.

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:That seems fine to me: 

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Vanyel is outside his room in the courtyard, pacing and singing to himself; he looks kind of worried. 

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"Hey. I'm so sorry. We're being horrendously rude. Nothing's on fire and no one hates anyone, I promise...I was going to offer to explain later but I can explain now, if we're going to have you distracted all day with this anyway -"

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"Oh? Er, it's fine to explain later." Vanyel tries for a reassuring smile. "I figured if something was on fire you'd have told me that. I'm just also stuck on the stupid spell I was working on anyway." 

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"Any chance I can trouble you for a Gate to Vinyamar? Then if there is anything else to consider someone will point it out, and the thing I explain to you will sound all the more reasonable."

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Vanyel blinks, seems slightly confused, but bobs his head. "Of course! Um, do you want me to leave you there and give you a Gate back in a couple of hours?" 

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"That would be good if it's not too much trouble!"

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"It's fine! You fixed my Gate problem from before, and without that Gates are really easy actually." And Vanyel gives him a Gate to Vinyamar. 

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And he goes through.

 

Finds Findekáno.

Explains everything to Findekáno.

"I was angry earlier but now I think I mostly - feel really sad? And tired."

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"I think you should spend more time here in Vinyamar. I realize this inconveniences Vanyel but I think you should do it anyway."

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" - huh. Why -"

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" - I think that trying to point all of yourself at a person usually isn't going to turn out fair to you or to them? There's a lot of you, and normally it's pointed in like ten different directions, and it can still - shift oneself weirdly, to be on the receiving end of. And on your side...normally you're pointing it in ten different directions so not a lot of your self-esteem and happiness are riding on any one of them having any particular returns? 

I know how much we owe Leareth. But I think he should be at most one third of what you are doing with your life."

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"I think the problem here was that he had gotten convinced that I'd leave him if he didn't - keep me satisfied or something -"

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"That was definitely a problem! Not really a problem it is obvious to me you could have prevented - and don't tell me 'I could've not been attracted to him', you could also have solved it by being 'dead', I'm interested in solutions that aren't dumb - but I think you could, uh, have prevented getting this fucked up over it."

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"I'm not fucked up over it."

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Findekáno does not dignify this with a response. "During the war you were unusually focused on him and that made sense, since the fate of the world was at stake. But still, you were mostly thinking about the war, I assume. Whereas now it's - mostly him. Yeah? So if anything goes wrong -"

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"I wonder if I should ask him and Vanyel about relocating to Vinyamar. So it's easier to mix other things in."

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"I certainly wouldn't have any complaints."

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"You don't think I - messed up?"

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"I think you tried to do something that probably wasn't going to work. And then it didn't work. Which is what usually happens when you try things that probably aren't going to work."

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"If I didn't make a mistake why do I feel so awful?"

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"That might just be the breakup. I think those often suck."

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- he maybe wants to cry about it, actually. 

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It's weird how someone this competent can be this incompetent and he loves him very much.

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When it's time for the return Gate Maitimo looks - not happier, but maybe more sincere about his apparent level of happiness.

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Vanyel's Gate goes up right on time. He's waiting on the other side of it, still in the courtyard outside his room. Looking expectant. 

"So?" he says after a moment. 

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Privacy-thingy. "Leareth had a bit of a breakdown last night in the course of which he eventually managed to communicate that - 

- that this was a scheme he came up with to stop me from getting bored and leaving, and decided that all of his feelings of 'not actually wanting to do it' were probably trauma to ignore or get Melody to put blocks on. And then eventually this got unsustainable, unsurprisingly."

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Vanyel stares at him, and then covers his face with both hands. "Gods. Are you actually– I know you're serious, that's not a real question. Just. Gah. Leareth. Why did he think you - getting bored or something - was even a problem that would ever happen." 

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"Melody thinks it's his general - trouble making sense of people caring about him non-instrumentally. Which - I am not in the mood to argue with him about it right now but probably someone should. I'm a Quendi, we don't even get bored inside fifty years, I really don't know what -" Sigh.

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"Huh. I would've said it was the kind of mis-prediction would make, if I were having a hard time and feeling very dependent on a specific person - even if there was lots of evidence of it being fine, there are moods I can get in where that doesn't do anything - but I wouldn't've thought Leareth would have the same thing. Maybe that's just me not getting it, though. When I actually think about it, I guess it makes sense that being really traumatized would make Leareth more - shaped like me - than before."

Vanyel's expression hints that this is a completely novel thought to him, and kind of an upsetting one. 

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"And I think you have had more experience with - your predictions being sometimes generated by that instead of by reality - whereas he's used to assuming his are completely accurate and he should run off and use them to do elaborate things."

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Nod. "I think that's right. Or at least, he has no middle ground in between that and none of his beliefs or predictions being trustworthy, and I think he was working really hard on - believing things and doing things in general. And - gah, of course he would think a relationship was fair game for scheming about, why would he not think that, I don't think he has any normal conception of romance and sex to work from. Gah. I'm sorry. I feel like I probably gave him bad advice or something. Or gave you bad advice."  

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"I don't think you could possibly have figured it out, no one figured it out and he was - trying reasonably hard not to let us, right? I - wish we had somehow guessed anyway. But I think he'll be all right."

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"Are you all right? That - if it were me it'd be a really jarring thing to learn like that. Er. Do you want a hug or something." 

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"I would not turn down a hug." Hug. "Mostly I - I don't think it makes sense to be angry with him, really. I told him we are not doing this now but I would maybe consider it again in a century, if he wants to then."

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Hug. "I don't think it makes sense to be angry with him either. I...should talk to him." 

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"I think that's a good idea."

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Vanyel spends a moment Mindspeaking. :Melody says he's asleep. I'll go after: Sigh. :It's not - I assume he's not going to go off and come up with some even worse scheme if I end up leaving it for tomorrow? I sort of want to plan what to say: 

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"I think if anything he corrected towards - not trying to do things, again. Which isn't great but might be more sustainable short-term than him trying some new plan right now."

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"Mmm. It does seem not great but it could be worse. He probably shouldn't be trying to do any things, er, unilaterally like that." 

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"That's what I said, yeah, he could maybe try doing things that didn't involve a lot of managing our state of information about the things."

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"I'm surprised he thought it would work, honestly? You're, um, not someone I would expect to succeed at keeping an important secret from. But I guess he probably wasn't thinking clearly on multiple levels, and - didn't know a useful way to protect from that." 

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Nod. "And I think he thought - that if he wanted to want to have a relationship then that'd transmute into actually wanting one? That's how he normally works."

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"Wow, I - I don't know if I wish I worked that way or if I'm really glad I don't, I would probably abuse it if I could do that. Um. From having talked with him a bit recently, it was some point in the last few weeks but before, er, all this, I...wonder if he didn't succeed at that. At least a bit. He seemed - actually happy, about a lot of it, in this 'was I missing out on this the whole time' way - I thought it was very sweet at the time. Though I also felt very, um, I guess awkward about the topic, and I'm not as good at reading people as you, so I might've missed something about how he was feeling." 

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"I'm a little confused and I think he's a little confused but I think there might be something there? He definitely got farther than - than I did, when I tried to do that - but I still don't really expect it to work all the way. At least not while he's also traumatized and can't distinguish between 'don't want to because of Melkor, which I should ignore' and 'don't want to because I don't want to'."

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"Gods, no, apart from all the other problems with his plan the timing was obviously doomed, but I guess I can see why that wouldn't feel as obvious to him." 

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"I think lots of obvious things are not obvious to him!"

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"It's really exasperating sometimes! Maybe I should make a list of all the obvious things and put it on his wall. Or, hmm, I think some things would seem obvious to him about other people, but he hasn't recalibrated for himself? I am not sure it'll actually help because it's starting to feel like nothing does, but I could suggest he think about the advice he'd give me, in whatever situation, and then assume he needs it too."

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"That seems like wise advice. I definitely don't want him to conclude he can't do things. Just - slightly more caution about which things."

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"To be fair I have made worse plans than that which were even less going to solve my actual problems."

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"I expect that story would go some way towards explaining why whenever I tell humans I think you are very sensible they gape disbelievingly at me."

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"I do not believe that Melody gaped disbelievingly. She might have raised one eyebrow. Very politely. She was in fact personally there for some of the aftermath of my..." Vanyel makes a very odd face, "...third worst plan? You know, I have never actually tried to sit down and rank all of the stupidest things I've done by which of them were worse ideas than Leareth doing that." 

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"Well, maybe it will cheer Leareth up if you do."

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"...I'm concerned it would be upsetting? I don't have a very good model of what actually upsets him, though." 

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"One of the things he said to me and Melody was that he tried concealing how badly things were hurting him because he felt like we were - overcorrecting for it, trying too hard to make sure nothing upset him..."

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"Oh. That makes sense. I've felt that way a lot - I'm not sure I was always right to, but I understand why he feels that way." 

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"Yeah. I think we can - try to tread a little less carefully, and if he was wrong about it hopefully he will notice."

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"I'm...not sure I trust him to notice things being bad for him, but - well, it's probably worse for him if no one is trusting him with that, so." Shrug. "I'll do my best not to be stupid about it." 

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"I trust you." 

 

And he will let them go do that. 

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This mostly seems to go okay, or at least not result in any disasters? Leareth seems a bit more fragile than usual for the next week, mostly not leaving his room, but after a while he seems back to his previous normal. Except for spending a lot more time with Vanyel and less with Maitimo. He still often asks Maitimo to sing him to sleep, but only very occasionally asks for a hug if it hasn't been spontaneously offered. 

Two weeks later he tells Vanyel that he would maybe like to travel sometimes. Going to new places is stressful, but he thinks it's good for him to sometimes do things that are a manageable amount of scary. 

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Vanyel relays this. "I don't know where we'd go. Valinor seems - fraught, we could go but I wouldn't be able to Gate him back right away if he got overwhelmed, and I think it'd be a better idea to have that as an option." 

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"I have been thinking about relocating to within osanwë range of Vinyamar anyway, it'd make my work easier. Maybe you two could go explore the coast near there? It's safe enough, and you can Gate if you end up needing to, and if you find someplace you like we could build a place there."

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"That's a good idea. Probably exploring the coast would be less overwhelming than the city itself at first. I don't know if there are any potential risks - I guess wild animals? We wouldn't actually be in danger but it'd scare Leareth a lot, if we got chased by wolves or something and he couldn't do any magic, even though I doubt there's anything on the whole continent that would be a threat to me. So I should scope out an area first and make sure nothing's going to surprise us." 

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"I think that's a good idea, yeah. There's nothing that's even particularly scared us but he feels awfully vulnerable right now."

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Vanyel does that. He can Gate across by himself first, poke around a stretch of coastline, and put up some passive wards so he'll be alerted in advance if any maybe-scary-looking wildlife has wandered in. 

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Going somewhere is, in fact, very stressful! Leareth slightly panics about it after crossing the Gate. He told Vanyel this would probably happen and that it's fine. Vanyel offers him a hug and sings until he calms down and then they walk around a bit, until Leareth gets exhausted enough that he trips on a tree-root and falls and lies on the ground crying. Vanyel, after a moment of having no idea what to do, matter-of-factly helps him up, he's not strong enough to actually carry him, and Gates them back. 

They spend the next three weeks exploring uninhabited coast near Vinyamar, for gradually longer intervals, eventually getting to the point that it's a full-day trip and they need to bring food along.

Eventually, Leareth decides that he especially likes a little cove area with a stream that joins the ocean, and he wouldn't mind living there. He expects it to be another very stressful adjustment, actually sleeping in a new place, but, again, if he just doesn't do things that are scary, he is basically not going to do things period. 

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Neat! They can set up there and Maitimo can talk to people in Vinyamar easily. Also he can build Leareth a house. 

"I really want to build you a house. It will probably take longer than Vanyel doing it but I bet it won't be worse."

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It gets a genuine smile from Leareth. "I would like that, I think. I am sure it will be a very pretty house and I am not in any hurry." He's quiet for a bit, thinking. "Why do you want to do that in particular?" 

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"A thing Quendi do is learn -- all the arts that make the tools we use. Glassblowing and papermaking and carpentry and metalworking and farming - it doesn't take so long, and if you don't like it you don't have to do it for very long, but that way you understand what you're building on, you know? And I wonder if you ought to have that. It wouldn't have made any sense in Velgarth, but here -"

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"I think I - it is not just that I would enjoy it, I would, but...it would help? I am not sure with what. Something." 

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"Even better, then. I will teach you how to build a house."

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"...That might take a very long time, I am - not very good at doing things." Shrug. "As long as I have somewhere to live in the meantime, I suppose that is fine." 

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"Yes, we will make sure you have a comfortable place to sleep right away. And then - get more ambitious from there."

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"I look forward to it." 

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So he builds him a very basic house which Vanyel can ward and where he can sleep, and then he teaches him how to build a nicer one, himself. He starts with designs, because the Quendi tried making houses without coming up with designs first and then the houses weren't pretty enough. Even if your plan for your house is very simple you want all of the measurements written down before you cut a single tree.  

He gets an architect from Vinyamar who can go on at some length about this and then give all kinds of advice.

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This is kind of overwhelming! Leareth finds having a new person there stressful, and trying to pay attention for the 'some length' is exhausting, but it helps that the topic is both neutral and very - concrete, about a thing in the immediate future that he cares about doing right. (But not something with very high stakes, it won't bother anyone but himself if he designs a bad house– okay, fine, it would also bother Maitimo. He will try hard to design a pretty house to avoid that.)

He takes notes and eventually manages to convey when he needs breaks, and works on his design. It takes a lot longer than it feels like it should, but eventually he has something that he at least feels reasonably good about. He is of course going to show it to Vanyel and Maitimo and anyone else who wants to check it over, to make sure it's not terrible in some way that he failed to notice. 

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Maitimo thinks it is a very reasonable house desigh.

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Leareth is...kind of an absurd level of pleased about this. It feels very good, in a way that's only mildly terrifying, to have so unambiguously done a thing. 

He's very cooperative with all the next steps of house-building or learning prerequisite skills. Very little of it is specifically scary or upsetting; to the extent that it's hard, it's mostly because he's easily overwhelmed and gets tired quickly and has a hard time concentrating for longer than ten minutes. This is a lot more obvious when he's trying to accomplish something, but - not in a bad way, and it feels like some of it will get better just with practice. 

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Then they can learn how to lay a house foundation and how to cut boards and lay bricks and shingle roofs. 

Maitimo is enjoying himself a lot, even if they have to do most of it in very short intervals. 

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Leareth seems - not just happier, but more himself, as though more of the Leareth-pieces are present and working, when he's actively trying to build something. Even if it's a very simple thing. He gets frustrated a lot, with himself or with the materials that won't do what he wants them to do, but he seems to improve at managing that over the first few weeks. 

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He feels badly for not thinking of this a while ago. So Leareth would feel like he could try to achieve this, instead of trying to achieve - 

- well, he mostly doesn't think about it. 

 

Next are doorframes, and windowframes, and flooring.

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Doorframes are really hard to get right, for some reason, and Leareth also isn't starting out with a lot of tolerance for - well, he expects his attempts won't work on the first try when he's just learning something, but things not working by the third or fourth or tenth try makes him feel like giving up in despair and never trying to do anything again. And then frustrated with himself because that feels like such a wrong, alien way for him to respond to anything. 

He has to leave his tools alone for a day, on a few occasions, before he can look at his progress without crying, but that part gets easier over time as well. 

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"I've been wondering if I mishandled something earlier," Maitimo says to him one day when they're resting and it seems like he could maybe use a distraction.

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"Mmm?" 

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"When we talked about your immortality method. I wanted to - not get upset when it'd obviously scare you if I did. But I was thinking that it must have felt - like you had better not upset me -"

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"...It did feel like that." Leareth is trying not to tense up. It's not a comfortable topic but - Maitimo isn't going to hurt him, no one here is going to hurt him. "I - I had been - not sure what to do. About - overhearing in your thoughts, when the amulet was broken..." He doesn't need to say that part, Maitimo knows. "And then - we had that conversation, and I - I was just very scared, I think. I - misinterpreted you, it felt like - realizing your help was more conditional than I had thought. Because I thought you knew - what I am - and it turned out you did not know all of it."  

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- he takes a deep breath. "I don't know all of it. I - you explained fine, but I think I am not really - imaginative enough - to have come up with all of it. I probably won't actually know all of it unless you tell me specifically, which you may, if you would like, but which you certainly don't have to.

But - I'm not going to leave. What you did for us was real, whatever you did before that. Even if some of it was actually just awful, not just a clever but terrible trade - even if it's stuff I haven't thought of. I don't want you to feel like you have to pretend at anything to be safe here."

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Leareth nods. He's shaking a bit. Also sort of crying, in the really stupid way where it's just enough to make talking hard. He switches to Mindspeech. :I - appreciate that. I think it would be better if it did not feel like everything would be doomed if you left. It is a lot to ask of you, and I - should be able to survive losing any one specific person. But it might take a long time, to get there: 

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I know. I won't leave. I'm really very sure. But - I understand that 'it'd be fine if I did' is a much stronger position than that. And it makes sense to wait for that.

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Nod. 

:I suspect I had thoughts around it that were not very logical. I remember feeling very strongly that my actual self was - probably not acceptable to you. And so I needed to hide the worse parts, or - make them different. I think hiding - other things - from you was very bad and it made everything worse, but - that is part of why: 

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I'm so sorry. 

 

I don't -

- it seems very bad if while you are trying to put yourself back together you are trying to put yourself back together into someone who'd belong in Arda. Since - the work in Velgarth isn't done, and there will be other worlds and other wars... we will want the thing Arda offers. And I don't think you have to be quite so - pinned into the only shape that could survive Velgarth, anymore. But I don't think you should throw away what you were, either. I think we'll still need it. And - I loved that person, when I met him. It wasn't because I thought the evils in the world were bounded by my imagination.

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...Nod. 

:I - had not been thinking very far ahead: he admits, finally. :I - still - cannot really think about - being able to fight other wars. But that makes sense: 

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It can be a very very long time, and you don't have to think about it now. We are not in a hurry. Just - don't ever try to be weaker for me.

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:I will try not to do that: 

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The house will need plumbing and windows and a fireplace.

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Plumbing is weirdly satisfying. Leareth isn't sure why he likes that part in particular so much but he does, and is reasonably good at it. In general he's finding it easier to work on projects for longer stretches of time, as long as all the component pieces are fairly simple. 

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That seems like a good sign, probably.

 

One day, to Maitimo's intense startlement, there is a dimly glowing white orb in the sky! He's not thrilled about it.

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Leareth is much less startled. "I am not certain, but that looks very much like the moon in Velgarth. Were we...expecting a moon?" 

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"The Valar said they were going to put the fruits of Telperion and Laurelin in the sky! They didn't say what it would look like." He glares at it suspiciously. "I guess it's pretty. We're going to have to rethink the whole city..."

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"Is there going to be a sun too?" 

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"That was the plan, yes."

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"Oh." Leareth smiles, tentatively. "I think you will find the sunrise very pretty. I am not sure when that will be, but the horizon will start to be lighter before it happens - the sun is much brighter than the moon. I - think I would like to watch it with you." 

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"That sounds lovely."

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Leareth isn't sure when sunrise will be but he guesses wildly that it'll be timed for when the moon is setting, and decides to take a nap so he can be awake and rested at the expected time. 

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If he's not awake when the horizon starts to lighten he will wake him.

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Leareth ends up being kind of groggy because it seems like his sleep schedule is not at all lined up with the newly announced day-night schedule, but he yawns and gets up and accompanies Maitimo to the cliffs to watch the sky. 

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The sunrise is beautiful. He is enraptured.

 

 

He takes Leareth's hand.

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Leareth glances over at him, a bit startled, but doesn't pull away. 

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"It's so elaborate - does Velgarth really have this every day, no wonder the Valar wanted to imitate it -"

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"We do! And then sunset too, which I think is even better." 

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"Wow." He flops backward on the grass to soak up the sunrise. "I guess we will have to watch that too."

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Leareth flops next to him, a careful distance away; he feels less awkward but still a little awkward about touching Maitimo. "I would like that very much." 

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"How long does it stay in the sky?"

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"In Velgarth it varies by season, actually! The total day and night add up to about twenty-four hours, but in summer the days are longer and the nights are shorter, in winter it is the opposite. I am actually not clear if Valinor had warm and cold seasons?" 

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"Some parts do, in the north and south, though Tirion doesn't. The variety is necessary for some ecosystems but it's inconvenient enough they didn't want to start us out having to deal with it."

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Leareth chuckles. "It is inconvenient, yes. The gods in Velgarth do not seem to be trying to minimize inconvenience." 

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"How inconsiderate of them. Maybe the Valar can explain some principles of being a god to them."

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"Maybe. I do not really expect that to work." 

Once the sun is properly up and the various interesting colours have given way to a clear blue sky, Leareth wants to resume working on the house until sunset-watching time. 

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He wants to go around picking things up and holding them up to the sunlight and worrying about how the colors will go together.

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Leareth thinks they all look fine but it's very - Quendi-appropriate - for Maitimo to want to check anyway. 

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Maitimo thinks that Leareth's house, which they weren't using paints for, should mostly work out all right but he's worried about the city, which will have to rethink the color schemes of several areas. It was sort of rude of the Valar to do this without notice.

He is not very helpful with the house all day but he sings a lot and seems very happy. 

And then the sun sets and it's even more beautiful than the sunrise. He's delighted.

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Leareth is so pleased! It's a bit silly to feel this much satisfaction about Maitimo enjoying the sunset, it's not like Leareth personally invented sunsets, but he is nonetheless so delighted to be watching Maitimo experience it for the first time. This is the most he's smiled since his rescue from Angband. (Possible the most he's smiled in Maitimo's presence ever, it's not like he was very expressive before.) 

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Maitimo smiles back at him. - reaches out and takes his hand, again. 

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It's not that Leareth doesn't like it - he does, a lot - but he's still confused what Maitimo is trying to express with this, and sort of thinking himself in circles about it. And - longing for something, but he doesn't even know what.

It finally occurs to him that he can just ask, although it's still hard to figure out what the right question is. :What are you thinking about?: he goes with, eventually. 

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He's thinking about Leareth, who looks - better, closer to okay, happier, and he's glad of that, and the last thing he would possibly want would be to screw that up somehow, so he's been mostly ignoring how - 

- how Leareth also looks like he wants him, the way it never quite looked like he did, before, and that means it's tempting again, though it hasn't been for a long time -

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Oh. 

Leareth is (and this is still not unusual) confused about what emotions he's having and what they mean. He wants something. He's mostly been ignoring it, so he hasn't tried unpacking it into words even to himself, but - he keeps feeling like he misses Maitimo. Which is stupid because Maitimo is right there, and yet. He's been remembering, sometimes, how Maitimo would hold perfectly still while Leareth kissed him. And he has a newfound appreciation for how hard that must have been, how much patience it must have taken, because he's finding it hard not to - keep wanting things he really shouldn't have, at least not for years or decades, he's proven himself too irresponsible with it. Something about it feels unfair, but he can't really pin it on anyone except his past self for coming up with a terrible plan. 

...He's thought about how he should probably try to stop wanting - that - because it seems unhelpful. He has not successfully formed an intention to stop, though. Maybe it requires all the various parts of him to be - pretty aligned on what the highest level wants. Which was trivial before Angband, enough that he was barely conscious of the process, and it wasn't trivial at all during his terrible plan but it still felt doable at all. He's not sure it is now. When he thinks about leaning away from those wants, several parts of him are clamouring that no, actually, why should he have to stop noticing that good things are good. He's settled on ignoring it instead because that at least is doable, it's mostly not a loud shouting kind of desire, and he can redirect it into wanting to build things with Maitimo which is also wonderful. 

He's been thinking about asking Vanyel for advice but - honestly hadn't even considered asking Maitimo, that felt very off-limits. It does seem like a relevant answer to Maitimo sharing his thoughts, though. 

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Quendi consider the wanting - an important part of the experience of being in love. You want while you cannot have, for a while, and it forces you to - notice more, appreciate more, get clearer in your own head on what it is you're even looking for - and then when you can stop waiting it's better for it. I don't know if it would work like that for humans. 

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:No, that makes a great deal of sense. ...Is it considered all right to talk to the person you are in love with about what you want? I - normally go to you. When I am confused about emotions: 

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It is not exactly traditional but several other features of this situation are not traditional. If it helps you I would be happy that you came to me.

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:I apologize for - fitting so confusingly into your traditions: He is expecting Maitimo tell him not to be sorry, that he prefers it that way or knew this was who Leareth is or something in that vein. 

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I cannot have - anything traditional anyway. I go back and forth about how much this saddens me.

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:I do not think I was very good at fitting into any traditions back in Velgarth either: Leareth admits. 

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The sun vanishes entirely below the horizon, leaving a smear of reds and purples across the horizon, mirrored by the sea. The stars are coming out.

"...I said something to Vanyel once," Leareth says suddenly. "About stars. In one of our dreams. I was - trying to comfort him? During their war with Karse, he was so tired. I wish I remembered what I had said."

It feels important. Like it's somewhere adjacent to the part of himself that he lost, when he tried to tear down the core parts of himself faster than Melkor could rebuild them, because it was too late to win and the best he could hope for was to stop doing things. He's been trying to do things again for a while and it's nice, it feels good, but whatever generator used to drive all his tireless efforts is still missing. 

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"We could ask him."

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Leareth nods. He's suddenly feeling very tired though; unclear if it's because thinking about how much of himself he still needs to piece together is exhausting, or because it's dark out now. He yawns. "We should probably go back now." 

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"Mmhmm." He's still holding his hand and can pull him to his feet.

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"Thank you." Leareth accepts the hand up, leans a bit on Maitimo's shoulder. "...Thank you for everything. Especially for teaching me to build a house. That was such a good idea." 

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"I wish I'd thought of it sooner. It does seem to be - good."

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"I feel more like myself when I have goals. Even if they need to be very small ones for a while." Leareth is experiencing some sort of hard-to-name emotion again. He has a go poking at it anyway. "I...really want you to like my house. It feels good when you are impressed with something I did. Even if it is not objectively very impressive." 

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"I do like your house! You're picking things up really quickly - I know you don't think so -"

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"I suppose I have high expectations of myself. I am not used to– I mean, I am used to doing things that are very hard, but not for the difficult part to be concentrating on something for longer than ten minutes. It leaves me feeling very - broken. I think it is getting a little easier, though." 

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"It seems to me like it is. And - I'm sure it is hard for it to take time, but it isn't very surprising. Certainly no one was expecting you to bounce back immediately. - well, I guess I was a little terrified you'd do that. But. Not once we saw what had actually happened."

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"What was the other thing you thought might have happened - oh, I suppose if you thought I had just been working for Melkor...?" 

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"Yes. Which - in certain states of information might've been reasonable? But it'd have been terribly complicated."

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"Looking back, I am surprised he did not try just erasing my memories all the way back to my arrival in Arda and beginning again, so that he could control my information state completely. I would be especially paranoid on arrival in a new world, but I was also especially paranoid when I believed myself in Melkor's hands, so it would not have made my level of suspicion worse." 

Pause. "...Maybe he did do this. I have not finished sorting through all of the memories yet. It somehow manages to be tedious and upsetting both at the same time." 

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"I can imagine!" He squeezes his hand. 

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Leareth squeezes back, without speaking.

His new house isn't ready for inhabiting yet, so he heads back with Maitimo to his very basic one. 

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Where Maitimo can sing him to sleep, if he'd like.

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Leareth would like that. He also doesn't really want to let go of Maitimo's hand, but will at any indication that Maitimo prefers that. 

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No. They shouldn't do anything else until it's not a disaster if Maitimo leaves - Maitimo thinks he prefers not actually having romantic relationships where he is not allowed to be angry or leave - but they can hold hands. And pine. It's nice. It feels...emotionally healthy, or something.

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It's confusing and honestly kind of frustrating, but that's not unique to pining, a majority of Leareth's experiences are some amount of confusing and frustrating. And it's also nice.