Oct 19, 2018 9:42 PM
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"So," says Bella to Rúmil one afternoon, "a few weeks ago I told myself that if in a few weeks I had not come up with an actually good way to bring up a thing I would just mention it anyway on the grounds that if it came up somehow later and I had not done so that would be weird."

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Well, they could discuss things with the peal on the network but they disabled wizardry so actually now they can't.

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They are not enabling wizardry again, Sauron could break Melkor out.

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They can't be more selective about it? ...And this might not even stop someone from being summoned out of Valinor from elsewhere.

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Well that's terrible what can they do about that.

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They did manage to stop Elspeth from teleporting by sorcery that one time, that thing might work.

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They are already doing that thing really hard at Melkor so learning wizardry himself doesn't let him leave but they're not sure it works against summoning, is there a way to check?

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They could do it to someone else and Boots could try summoning them.

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Okay! They'll ask for volunteers.

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If that takes a while somebody from the peal can just do it, it won't take long.

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It might take a while, how about someone from the peal comes to do it.

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Okay. Elspeth will be right back, since she can't summon somebody from here since they disabled wizardry.

Pop pop okay they're going to try to summon Elspeth in ten minutes and the Valar should try to stop that but only until Elspeth says to let her go.

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They can do that!

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The summon doesn't work.

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The Valar are pleased! It means Sauron will not be able to fetch Melkor who is very locked down. They let Elspeth go.

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She pops in to inform Warp that the Valar have not e.g. decided to keep her forever or something, then comes back. While they are thinking of their good solution there is a wizard Sauron in a science world on an inhabited planet, so the peal is probably going to do something fast if they can think of anything, even if the Valar can't help that quickly. Do the Valar have, like, relevant resources of which the peal should be aware.

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If they bring Sauron back here they can try to keep him from leaving again. That's about it.

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Yeah no if Sauron proves portable he's gonna die.

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Has he actually done anything?

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Well, "ran off to Warp, while Sauron" is not super reassuring by itself, but unfortunately most of the people they could quiz on the timeline are also Sauron and therefore dead now. They could as a formality ask a Thuringwethil or something when Saurons start doing things.

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The Valar think that you are supposed to verify people have done things before you kill them, but they can ask Eru if it's really important.

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Eru is sort of the last person Elspeth would ask about questions of morality. If they want his timeline input it's probably fine, though, he does not have a timeline related deficit of which she is aware.

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Eru declines to comment on whether Sauron has done anything worthy of death yet. 

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Yeah they'll ask a Thuringwethil just to be clear on stuff in the event that he hasn't done anything horrible to the planet he's on so far.

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The Valar cannot be of further assistance unless they happen to think of a way to act in Warp efficiently!

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Well, Elspeth appreciates their help with keeping Melkor firmly in place.

She goes and reports to the network.

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