Oct 19, 2018 10:01 PM
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"So," says Bella to Rúmil one afternoon, "a few weeks ago I told myself that if in a few weeks I had not come up with an actually good way to bring up a thing I would just mention it anyway on the grounds that if it came up somehow later and I had not done so that would be weird."

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The Valar are pleased! It means Sauron will not be able to fetch Melkor who is very locked down. They let Elspeth go.

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She pops in to inform Warp that the Valar have not e.g. decided to keep her forever or something, then comes back. While they are thinking of their good solution there is a wizard Sauron in a science world on an inhabited planet, so the peal is probably going to do something fast if they can think of anything, even if the Valar can't help that quickly. Do the Valar have, like, relevant resources of which the peal should be aware.

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If they bring Sauron back here they can try to keep him from leaving again. That's about it.

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Yeah no if Sauron proves portable he's gonna die.

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Has he actually done anything?

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Well, "ran off to Warp, while Sauron" is not super reassuring by itself, but unfortunately most of the people they could quiz on the timeline are also Sauron and therefore dead now. They could as a formality ask a Thuringwethil or something when Saurons start doing things.

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The Valar think that you are supposed to verify people have done things before you kill them, but they can ask Eru if it's really important.

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Eru is sort of the last person Elspeth would ask about questions of morality. If they want his timeline input it's probably fine, though, he does not have a timeline related deficit of which she is aware.

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Eru declines to comment on whether Sauron has done anything worthy of death yet. 

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Yeah they'll ask a Thuringwethil just to be clear on stuff in the event that he hasn't done anything horrible to the planet he's on so far.

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The Valar cannot be of further assistance unless they happen to think of a way to act in Warp efficiently!

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Well, Elspeth appreciates their help with keeping Melkor firmly in place.

She goes and reports to the network.

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So what is he in fact up to-

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Well, maybe there's something published on the subject in the last couple decades.

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(Thuringwethil gets a visit and a question.)

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"Oh, hey, princess."

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"Hey. Sauron-related question."

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"One of them loose?"

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"How'd you guess."

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"Little bird told me."

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"Anyway, yeah, one's loose, we're sort of academically curious how evil he is at this point, when does that start?"

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"...he was at least apprised of everything that went on in Utumno. It wasn't, like, his thing - orcs were Melkor's passion project - but he, like, had a go at seeing if you could get Elves to have half-Maiar children, that kind of thing..."

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"...did that fail in spite of Lúthien as proof of concept or are some running around?"

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"Can't get the Elves not to abort, I think? I was not involved, because the fuck."

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"Congratulations. Why couldn't they abort when it was orcs?"

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