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...huh.

Usually this door opens to a little nook with a window overseeing the Quidditch pitch and a bookshelf that never has the same books, and he can watch Fredrick and Theodore practice and draw out rune-charts and dictate a long letter without being overheard.

Right now it apparently opens on a bar, with exploding stars out the windows and no one around. 

He wonders if Minor and his friends documented this particularity when they took on that map-the-whole-castle project.

He sits down at the bar and pulls out the rune-charts.

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And the door opens and someone who is too old to be a student and too young to be a professor and too winged to be a human walks in from somewhere else entirely.

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"- Timothy, nice to meet you, am I off school grounds somehow?"

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"What."

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"...Timothy Laurence Way, I thought that Hogwarts had decided to shuffle up its study nooks but you don't look like you go to school here."

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"...okay, if the idea of naming a school 'Hogwarts' counts for half a point this is two and a half kinds of bewildering." He glances at the exploding stars. "Three."

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"You haven't heard of Hogwarts? ...are you from the colonies or something, you have a fascinating accent. And you still haven't introduced yourself -"

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"...I have not heard of Hogwarts, I am originally from the United States, and my name is Campbell Mark Swan if we're doing full names."

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"Originally? Have I discovered a portal across the Atlantic or not, that would be kind of a big deal."

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"...you have not discovered such a portal unless it is more kinds of bewildering. God this is weird."

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"Two and a half ways so? Do tell."

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"It's probably more ways than that for you if you refer to the States as 'the colonies' unironically, I'm not even sure where to start."

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"Hmm. I am a student at Hogwarts, the preeminent - really, the only - wizarding school in Britain; it is a magical castle with staircases that occasionally run different ways on Thursdays, rooms that appear only when you need them, and enough other oddities that when I noticed a classroom was - this - instead I didn't think much of it. The American Muggles did have a war over independence recently, the wizarding world's a bit behind the times -"

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"The last time I checked Earth was experiencing the year 2179; I have been away from any ability to verify that for a few years but doubt it went backwards and doubt further that it acquired wizards in so doing."

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...blink. 

"...I should get my dad or my little brother in here and you should teach them three hundred years of Muggle science, except it probably won't work in Hogwarts - do you have books or something for it -"

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"What is a 'Muggle'? - and I can acquire books."

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"People without magic - most people, that is -"

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"...I do not think you are from the same Earth as me."

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"Magic is secret - has been since the 1600s, there's an international law against doing magic in the presence of Muggles or otherwise permitting them to learn that it exists. But I'd put a lot of money on my ability to end the Statute in the next half-century and it is hard to imagine it'd still be present in - 2179."

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"That and magic was de-secreted where I'm from in the early 2000s, and it was less 'wizards' and more 'summon demons to do your bidding'."

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"- yep, we don't have that. ...sounds like kind of a bad idea, honestly -"

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"Works out okay most of the time."

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"Demons don't exist here. There're dragons and merfolk and goblins and vampires and werewolves and banshees and centaurs and elves -"

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"Yes, that's another form of bewildering, I know someone who looks and sounds quite like you apart from being an Elf."

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"It's uncanny."

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"...I'd be an appallingly bad elf."

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"Might not be the same kind of elf what with the not the same world thing. My Earth doesn't have Elves, I ran into Elves elsewhere."

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"...are all of your elves slaves magically bound to the household their grandparents served in?"

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"No, my Elves are tall unreasonably pretty people with pointy ears and brain backups who sing a lot."

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"We should pick a different word for those two species, those sound like some important differences there. Brain backups?"

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"Quendi for my kind, then. I don't know how to explain the brain backups from a tech background of 'the Revolutionary War was recent'..."

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"It's 1802. Uh, what implications does having a brain backup have -"

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"They can be brought back from the dead."

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"Ooooooooh. Can I have one?"

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"Doesn't work for humans and even if it did it's more complicated than that."

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"Ah. Okay. What sort of things do I get up to when I am tall and pretty and have pointy ears and sing a lot?"

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"Well, when I showed up there was a war on, so that."

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"Ah. - is there still in fact a war on, if you don't have any wizards we might be able to help -"

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"It's over now."

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"Do you want to talk about it -"

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"It's not really my fondest ambition but you apparently have magic so I might find it necessary to tell you for context."

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"If you wanted magic help with the war I would in fact demand a lot of context. Magic help with reconstruction or something I can do no questions asked."

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"Reconstruction is underway. Although you probably can't do the part I'm most hoping to turn up because you were very excited about Elves being able to come back from the dead so that's not customary for wizards."

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"It is not. Though if anyone could figure it out it'd be my father."

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"Yeah, assuming you're not just a lookalike I'd believe that."

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"Does the person who looks like me have six younger brothers?"

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"Yes."

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"...huh. Anyway, my father's trying to reconstruct the Philosopher's Stone, an old lost piece of magic that does immortality; if he gets that he'll probably try for resurrection next. The Philosopher's Stone has at least been accomplished before; resurrection no one's ever done."

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"It'd also have to be a sufficiently generic solution to bring back dubiously material magic god things."

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"I mean, we wouldn't want something that's only humans, but we don't have any dubiously material magic god things. ...if they're gods why do they need resurrecting, what kills a god -"

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"Anyway, I can ask him. - we're talking decades, if it's achievable, possibly longer, the original person to make a Philosopher's Stone was a hundred and thirty when he finished it -"

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"Elves're pretty patient and I'm not even done putting those back yet."

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"How many people died?"

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"Fifty-five million all told. I can put most of them back."

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"I'm glad you can do that."

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"Elves." Shrug.

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"So, uh, how about those books, Minor's going to get himself expelled by the end of the week but it's probably worth it -"

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"It'll take up a lot of room in print, might make more sense to teach you to use a computer."

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"Sure, what's that?"

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He has his; he pulls it off his belt, turns it on. "Information-handling technology."

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"Oooh, cool."

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"Yeah. This model requires brain surgery, don't know if wizards have weird brains or anything, probably shouldn't risk it."

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"Brain surgery? And I don't know either - we can interbreed with Muggles -"

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"Little metal thing in my brain tells the computer what I want it to do. Fantastically convenient, necessary for heavy-duty information security, and if you have a Wizard Cortex or something where your medulla is supposed to be then trying to give you a chip could be all kinds of problematic."

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"Okay. Yes, I will decline to be the first test subject for that. It'll be hard to talk my father down from it, though."

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"Unless I need to worry about mind control wizardry he doesn't particularly have to agree, and if he's inconvenient about it I'll distract him with a language he doesn't speak or something."

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"There's mind control wizardry but my father is not in fact evil. ...distracting him with a language he doesn't speak would totally work."

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"Although I don't want to pause too long in the Elf-resurrection I was doing. Someone will wonder what's keeping me any minute and 'looking into otherworldly magic that might get the Maiar back' is a better explanation than 'teaching an alternate universe Fëanáro a language'."

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"Fëanáro, huh."

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"Yeah. The one who looks like you is named Nelyafinwë Maitimo."

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"What about the rest of my family?"

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He has notes. He pulls them up. He reads them off. "- don't think anybody ever mentioned the mother's name or if they did I didn't write it."

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"...huh. Okay, sorry, I'll let you get back to work - unless I can help somehow -"

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"I don't know if you can, all you've mentioned about what wizards do is architectural or speculative."

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"Lots of varied and creative ways of doing lethal or nonlethal harm to things, making things, moving things, transfiguring things, divination but it's unreliable, potions, Apparation - huh, I could check if I can Apparate here, if I can that'd suggest it's not in Hogwarts - which the computer maybe suggests anyway -"

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"What is Apparition, what sorts of things do potions do, how unreliable, how does the computer suggest that?"

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"A few years ago some Muggle scientists came up with this idea called voltaic piles, they work with metal, that's about all I know but my father thought it was a big deal and immediately replicated it and when my little brother was trying to do the same he discovered that whatever physical principles makes voltaic piles possible, it doesn't work within Hogwarts because of the protections laid on the school thousands of years ago. It stands to reason that complicated future Muggle technology is at least fairly likely to stop working in Hogwarts, and it worked fine. Apparition is -" he twists in place and disappears, reappears across the room with a pop. "Potions can make you look like someone else, heal things, shrink things, induce or cure a variety of conditions, let you breathe underwater..."

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"...what's the range limit on Apparition?"

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"Depends how good you are and how tired you want to be and if you're taking people along but very few people can jump the ocean."

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"Ah, damn."

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"Where would you want it to go -"

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"It wouldn't help with the dead people - well, probably, they're immaterial by default and if teleportation is possible in principle maybe they could be extracted and be just fine? Not sure - but it'd speed up interplanetary travel, if it reached that far which it doesn't."

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"Interplanetary -"

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"The other you's dad invented faster than light travel."

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"I feel like I do not know enough things to appreciate how this is remarkable."

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"On my Earth, that has not been invented yet as of 2179. Although there are colonies on the Moon and Mars."

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"Ah. Cool. - if a werewolf lived on the Moon - no, you said you don't have any -"

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"We do not." He approaches a barstool, apparently having decided that the conversation is going to continue long enough to warrant sitting down. A napkin appears and he blinks at it.

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"I didn't get one -" He lifts up his rune charts - "oh, wait, yes, I did, and I didn't see it - oh, sorry, Bar, nice to meet you -"

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It's quite all right.

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"Are we intruding? What is this place -"

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It's called Milliways and you are quite welcome.

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"How'd you land on us in particular? Do you know anything about the tall singing Elf who looks like me?"

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The door's whereabouts are quite outside my control and I don't believe I'm acquainted with your alt aforementioned.

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"All right. I'll have a butterbeer."

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Butterbeer appears!

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"What an... evocative name for a beverage," says Cam. "I am sort of outside the market for free drinks."

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I would be happy to recommend something unfamiliar.

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"Okay."

He receives something unfamiliar and evidently likes it.

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"Why are you outside the market for drinks, exactly?"

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"Because I can make arbitrary material objects."

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"...woah."

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"It's very convenient."

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"Yeah, I bet. Once we get the Statute repealed want to come over and 2179 us?"

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"I would really, really like that, but I am not sure how it interacts with putting several million more Elves back and then going to another planet and putting more people back."

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"I mean, even if everything goes exactly the way I dream I'm not going to be Minister of Magic until I'm thirty and repealing the Statute'll probably take longer than that."

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"I am not sure how you get me to 1802 With Added Wizards in a few years, is my point."

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"Oh, do the doors not last?"

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"If they do I'm going to have to carve a hole in the wall of my little building to get out to the garden and put Elves in it. Bar?"

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The doors do not in fact last.

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"Does the alternate universe version of me perchance have people under his command who'd be willing to hang out here full-time such that doors are reliably accessible - does that work, Bar -"

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Yes, but unless the door is open to a particular universe time does not pass therein while a patron therefrom is inside.

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"...so no one's wondering where I am, yet?"

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Correct.

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"...huh. Okay, I'm keeping a door on my end at least through N.E.W.T.s."

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"And yes, he has lots of people, he's a prince, he sent some along to help acclimate reembodied Elves so I can just do full time resurrection - newts? Are newts an event? Is this like porcine dermatology being a school?"

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"They're an abbreviation for Nastily Exhausting Wizarding Test, they're the exams at the end of school and they're a week straight of really exhaustive testing and I can cheat at studying for them so much. ...I should probably check the bylaws to make sure it's not actually considered cheating, I bet they have rules about time-travel but I doubt they prohibit using it to study more between exams..."

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"And you have lots of people who will continually hold this door for you?"

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"I am not a prince but I could totally convince people to hold a door to a magic room in shifts."

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"...well, at any rate you might have trouble keeping access until you're ready to drop 2179 on 1802 With Wizards."

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"It would probably be a little bit of a challenge but it'd surprise me a bit if it were insurmountable. Magically hide this wing of the school, have my grandfather kick up a fuss, Slytherins take that kind of thing very seriously and would be meticulously reliable - or I could have an elf do it -"

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"Huh."

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"Yeah, come to think of it the easiest way would be to tell the administration and then assign some elves, assuming doorstops don't work."

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"Incidentally part of it being 2179 normally involves slavery being abolished but maybe the magically bound elves are more complicated somehow."

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"It takes that long? - and yeah, elves're more complicated, they were - designed to strongly prefer being slaves and be incredibly distressed at the idea of not having work to do or being such a disappointment to their masters that we'd free them - if you do, they beg you to take it back and then drink themselves to death - someone a long time ago was a monster but abolition wouldn't do much now. We've gone back and forth on the ethics of increasing their population to supplant the human slave trade once the Statute's gone."

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"Oh, no, it doesn't take that long," Cam assures him. "In the States it was like, what, fifty, sixty, years off from when you are, I'd have to look it up, and I think the UK beat us to it. The magical elf slaves do indeed sound more complicated."

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"Bet even if you don't come 2179 us I can do it in well under fifty. But yeah. All the nonhuman relations are a little tenuous but the Statute's more urgent."

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"Oh?"

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"Uh, which part? There's recurring debates over whether various races of magical peoples are, in fact, people - also periodic discussion of whether it should be legal to hunt Muggles for sport - killing a werewolf is always self-defense, even if it's not the full moon, whenever the government gets in too much debt they accuse the goblins of usury and there's a war - that kind of thing."

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"I mean why is the Statute urgent, although that's also interesting." Notes appear on his computer; he doesn't even have to look at them.

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Like a dictation quill but with technology, presumably. "Statute makes it illegal to let Muggles notice we exist - this contributes to the discrimination problems, because anyone who doesn't look standard human can't go out in public - it's enforced with mass memory charms, which are kind of terrible - and it means we can't cure plagues and stuff."

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"Memory charms are what they sound like?"

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"Yep."

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"I am indestructible against all forms of physical harm but might like to test whether that extends to mental harm before coming to 2179 your world."

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"Fair enough. What about, like, stunning spells -"

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"That would also be good to know."

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"I don't know how to cast a memory charm but I would be happy to try other magic if you want."

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"If I'm immune to some of it I can probably trust that to hold as a class."

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"Probably. There're also protections against a lot of it and while I've never heard of Muggles learning them they don't involve casting spells, you might be able to learn it."

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"Plan B."

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"Do 2179 humans still age?"

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"Yes, but they regularly clear a century."

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"Wizards live a lot longer than Muggles. Though maybe you can stack them or something, give my father more time for the Philosopher's Stone -"

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"I will not be able to import all of the medical advances because some of them are 'summon an angel and get them to do your bidding' and that might not work where you are."

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"Sounds more promising than summoning demons. How do either of those things work, when they do work?"

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"Drawing on the floor. There's an extensive safety lecture. If you summon unbound daeva they may go around committing acts of wanton destruction."

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"I know to be careful with magic. Drawing what on the floor?"

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"Circles. I am qualified to teach the entire university course on the subject but this strikes me as still the 'overview' stage of the conversation."

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"Yeah, of course, sorry. You honestly look like you could use a break, we don't have to do all the magic system comparisons right this minute."

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"...yeah, with time paused I will probably want to hang out and decompress for a while, it's been - some time, since I took a break."

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"Okay. I'll finish my homework, go get some sleep and sweets."

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"Enjoy."

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"No, no, that was a recommendation - sweets help with Dementors, which have an effect on people similar to the effect, uh, the war had on you."

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"...Oh. Sure, why not." He pops a truffle that wasn't there before into his mouth and goes and flops on the couch by the fire.

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And he does his homework. "I don't suppose the alternate universe version of me is fetchable?" he asks after a while. "I'd like to meet him."

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"On another planet, it'd take five days there and five days back."

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"Awww, too bad. You'll just have to tell him I said hi."

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"Sure. 'Hey Maitimo the human teenager version of you says hi.'"

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"Is he older?"

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"In addition to being resurrectable, Elves are immortal by default and also take like five hundred years to even grow up, he's way older."

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"...weird.  

- is he married -"

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"No."

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"Awwww, I could save myself some time and see if we had an alternate universe version of her."

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He fiddles with his change purse. "Bar, how much do things cost in here?"

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Reasonable currency-dependent prices. What can I get for you?

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"If money's a limiting factor I can just make whatever if you don't need her recommendations," Cam remarks from where he is supposed to be napping.

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"I want to get everyone 2179 birthday presents."

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"...and do you know enough about what sorts of things they might want that I can provide or are you going to be relying on Bar for suggestions?"

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"I would at least need a partial list of things that exist in 2179, and you are supposed to be resting."

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"I don't actually need sleep, you know."

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"I will take your word for that but you need something."

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Cam sighs and flops more emphatically onto the couch.

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And he pulls out a couple of Galleons and asks Bar for birthday present recommendations.

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She is happy to provide to the limits of her information about the recipients.

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He knows them pretty well, so that will totally do. He ducks out and holds the door to check if computers work in Hogwarts (nope) and whether this breaks them permanently or they start working once removed from the premises again (they do).

 

He quizzes Bar some more and starts assembling little gift baskets for everyone - there's some gear for zero-gravity games that Fredrick and Theodore will both appreciate, there's a delightful array of exotic foods, there are blueprints, there are plastics, his father and Minor both get radios...

 

"So if you don't technically need to sleep, when you said you hadn't taken a break -"

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Cam sits up and peers over the back of the sofa. "Do you want me to nap or do you want to talk about how unnecessary it is for me to nap."

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"Sorry." And he can continue gift-planning with Bar over napkins.

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Cam goes back to sleep. Bar is very helpful.

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Everyone will get their presents in a smooth chrome basket that no power on Earth could achieve in 1802. He doesn't have enough money to get them for every kid in the school but he asks Bar if she minds if he has Cam duplicate things he bought from her.

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Bar does not mind at all. Also she can accept counterfeit.

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The goblins would probably not appreciate that if it ever somehow got back to them and everyone is a dick to the goblins so he is trying not to be. But it's good to know anyway, thank you! He plans out on parchment the gift baskets for everyone else in the school.

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Cam wakes up after a few hours.

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Miranda gets a book on the decline of the British Empire which he is currently annotating heavily, another book that walks one through all the technical calculations involved in going to the Moon, a computer, the Igbo alphabet in the timeline where she didn't invent it, and an account of the transition away from human slaveholding which he will be heavily annotating as soon as he's done with the current one.

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"Whatcha writing?"

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"Well, now that we've got a timeline to compare to we can probably avoid some mistakes and catastrophes and so on - I'm trying to figure out what the best handling of the next century's events looks like -"

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"Wizards don't seem to have affected the course of history?"

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"We try really hard to stay out of Muggle events, so that's not as surprising - you had witch-burnings without any actual witches, but even in ours, lots of innocent Muggles were caught up in those..."

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"Were yours even in fact witch-prompted? Are witches a separate thing from wizards?"

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"Uh, woman are witches, men are wizards, there's no actual difference, at least some witch-burnings were witch-prompted - some people find being burned at the stake hilarious - but I haven't been able to trace down any histories specific enough to identify a divergence - well, not from that subject, there's a little town in Poland where a dragon killed everyone and it looks intact on your maps, but doesn't look to have much affected the course of history -"

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"Dragons. Gosh."

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"They're pretty cool if you know what you're doing. Most places have reserves, and teams to keep them from flying off and terrifying or murdering Muggles, but - some teams care more about that than others -"

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"...and if a dragon gets loose somebody memory charms the Muggles and tells them it was a forest fire?"

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"Yup."

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"Ugh."

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"The Statute is the most selfish, inhumane waste of resources since Azkaban was founded. We're going to get it repealed, though, a lot of people are coming around."

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"Azkaban?"

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"Wizarding prison."

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"...is a selfish inhumane waste of resources?"

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"There're these - beings, I don't know if they think - called Dementors. They feed off positive emotions; in their presence it is impossible to feel happy, and with extended time in thier presence impossible to do anything but relive the worst moments of your life, over and over. People convicted or in some cases just accused of crimes go to Azkaban. They usually stop eating and die."

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"So, yeah."

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"You have a plan for that one too?"

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"No, I figured all it really needs is a new paint job.

 

 

- containing wizards is a little bit complicated but even without anything from 2179 we have plans in the works."

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"What are they?"

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"I don't have my notebooks - can you just make them, they're next to my bed and they're green and they literally say 'plans for world domination' on the cover -"

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"Are your notebooks inherently magical in some way?"

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"...well, I don't want random people to be able to read the world domination plans..."

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"I can't make magic stuff."

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"Oh. Sorry." Door - "Accio notebooks -"

 

"They'll probably be a minute, someone'll have to let them out of the common room."

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"They have to travel through not only the intervening space but a clear trajectory through it? How do they pathfind?"

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"Magic. I think my father checked once, they pretty much try to go directly at you and nose around if they run into obstacles, they can in fact get stuck even if there's a path to you if there're specific traversibility properties -"

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"Aww, nosing books."

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"Common room's always full of people, someone'll let them out for me."

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Cam awaits the approach of books.

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Books! He flips them open to the section on criminal justice reform! "I guess I should summarize current procedures so all of this makes sense - most law enforcement in Britain is done by the Ministry of Magic, which has a bunch of somewhat autonomous departments which enforce laws under their own purview. Things that'd warrant a sentence in Azkaban are usually heard by the Wizengamot, a gathering of around eighty preeminent and elderly wizards from families of political importance - seats are inherited -"

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"Of course they are."

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"I am deriving a lot of satisfaction from how the future apparently considers all the things I personally dislike to be abhorrently primitive."

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"Bar give you a future history lesson?"

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"Hasn't been time for a very thorough one but I picked out books for people who'll be good at implementing them and I flipped through them to see if they covered the bits we'll need."

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"What other personally disliked primitivenesses turned up?"

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"Slavery gets abolished, non-property-owners get to vote, wizards're actually better than Muggles on women being allowed to own property and so on but the Muggles get there too, adversarial justice systems instead of 'the accused can speak in their defense if they want', my little brother Aaron has strong feelings about financial systems and is going to be outright gleeful at the idea of fiat currency..."

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"Wait, has fiat currency not been invented yet in 1802 -?"

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He gestures at the fat gold coins he had out to pay Bar for the goodies. "Muggles some places have it, backed by gold or silver in their reserves..."

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"I suppose wizards might have an easier time counterfeiting but then I'd also expect you to have an easy time conjuring up all the gold you found convenient to have, naively I'd expect IOUs to hold up better because you can go ask somebody 'this says you owed so-and-so this amount for this thing, is that true'..."

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"Goblins are really strict on counterfeiting, and there're spells to check, and it's a small enough community you couldn't get away with it for very long..."

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"What're goblins like?"

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"Uh, short, wrinkly, greyish skin, long pointy ears, long history of wars with wizards which even having only read our side of the story were probably mostly our fault, run Britain's major wizarding bank..."

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"That sounds... tense."

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"A bit. I wouldn't have files and files on how to run the world if it was running itself well enough."

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"Suppose not." Pause. "To answer your earlier question, no I have not done anything except reembody Elves for several months before finding this place."

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"Well.

 

 

Want to help me revise plans for running the world in light of lots and lots of evidence on what works apparently already existing? It sounds like more fun than months and months of reembodying Elves and I take it it doesn't even slow the return of the Elves to life. 

 

- what happened -"

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"There was a war."

Pause.

"I suppose it would be inappropriate to take you up on your invitation to go modernize your world without telling you that they died because I destroyed their planet."

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"Why?"

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"The war was against an evil god - who could make binding oaths, that I could verify - who really really wanted it destroyed - and. Needed to stop doing what he was doing."

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"And you can bring them back."

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"I can bring the Elves back."

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"There were other peoples -"

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"You wanted to know what kills a god."

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"I hope it was worth it."

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"Was or I wouldn't've done it."

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Nod. "None of this affects how good it would be to have future hospitals and so on, so if you want to come give us future stuff you can still do that. Though we should make really sure you're either protected against magic mind control or just nowhere near any wizards at any time."

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"You're a wizard."

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"And apparently could make you destroy the world, objectively you shouldn't trust me that much."

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"If you point your stick at me unexpectedly we might have a problem."

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"Fair.

So, did the evil god keep his end of the deal?"

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"Yes."

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"I would like more information but it doesn't need to be now or in the format of a conversation."

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"I have the oath we got out of him written out if you want to see. It's very thorough and refers to a lot of evil things you'd probably need more context on the brain backups to get."

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"That and the - absence of other solutions -"

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Cam makes him a copy of the oath.

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And he reads, and occasionally asks for clarification on what servers and simulations and backups are.

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"People can be - rendered as - information. You can sort of put them on pause and then they don't change or have any experiences - that's what happens to an Elf if their body dies but the chip is fine. Keep them around as static records in case something happens to a copy you're messing with, backed up. You can 'run' them - that's what servers are for - the body's unnecessary, you can with the right stuff interact directly with the information, give it whatever experiences you want, much faster than normal. Duplicate it, run two or more of the same person at the same time. Edit it, fuck around with memories or anything else you know enough about to change precisely."

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"...that's terrifying."

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"Yes."

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Read read. 

 

"Okay. You did the right thing, if you want confirmation of that from teenagers from the 1800s."

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"Your alt thinks so too. Helped with it."

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He flinches slightly.

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"Makes sense to have more eyes on it."

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"Yeah."

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"Speaking of which offer stands to look at the taking-over-the-world notes and go "oh they tried that in the 2060s and it doesn't work as well as you'd think" or whatever."

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"Thanks."

Investigation of notes commences.

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They are really thorough and exhaustive! Here is a glossary of every single person of influence in magical Britain and how well he knows them and which projects he could trust them on and avenues to reduce or increase their influence or his influence over them, updated after regular holiday parties and with notes about frequency of personal correspondence (he is talking to everybody, all the time). There are forty pages on Ministerial reorganization. There are three full notebooks on the Statute and the international conference that would need to be held to overturn it and the people he is in the process of persuading to hold that conference and proposed timelines and their drawbacks. There are eight pages devoted to prospects for marriage and their political advantages and disadvantages.

And then there are plans for once the Statute is repealed and he is Minister of Magic: infrastructure, research, governance, Muggle-magic relations, goblin relations, centaur relations, werewolf regulations, merpeople regulations, international conventions for dragon handling, potential things to do about the human slave trade, potential things to do about the Muggle colonial holdings in Africa -

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"I can have less meaningful future knowledge on things like centaurs, although I can extrapolate a little bit from daeva."

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"There's a notebook for Muggle governance stuff in particular, if you want to confine yourself to that, or I'll take centaur-daeva parallels."

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"Might be more efficient to give you a book on Revelation and take questions, since there are only three kinds of daeva and that's faster than teaching me about all these things." Book.

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"Thanks." He starts reading.

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And Cam takes notes and writes in suggestions and cautions on all the Muggle stuff.

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"Thank you. - you doing okay?"

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"In what sense?"

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"Uh, spending the next however-long being sad seems worse than not doing that?"

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"It isn't - useful, but it seems appropriate."

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"My world really really sucks and I guess it would be appropriate to be sad about it all the time but. I don't know."

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"I'm not like this about things I didn't do."

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"It was the right thing to do. The - awful - is all located in the situation in the first place."

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"I murdered fifty-five million innocent bystanders, only most of whom I can bring back. Their planet had some magical properties I couldn't replicate when I made them a replacement planet and the ecosystem's going to be shot because I can't put most of the animals back smart enough to walk and breathe at the same time and they were post-scarcity because of the intervention of the magic god things which are now dead and staying that way and I can't resume any pregnancies that were interrupted after a few weeks and before the chips were fully formed and Elves are fanatical about that, I have heard the most absolutely heartbroken crying about people's babies - yesterday a little girl wanted to know if I could get her dog and I cannot get her dog - it is not appropriate to whistle while I work."

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 "- can you - put the pregnancy-as-it-was-at-a-few-weeks -"

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"Yeah. The helpers your alt sent with me are gonna ask when people are slightly less shellshocked if that's an acceptable facsimile. Didn't want to spring it on anyone."

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"Muggle England has a child mortality rate of 30%".

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"And I will be eager to come through your door and modernize your planet and eradicate malaria which at a generous estimate may be responsible for as many as half of all human deaths to date where you're from, and then follow up with the thousand next best interventions, and I will do coffee instead of sleep for that too, and first I am going to put all the Elves back - they really do have inhuman levels of baby-obsession - and it would not. Be. Appropriate. To be cheerful. While I have not even undone the murders I can undo."

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"And you're not going to - burn out, or -"

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"Don't get me wrong, as long as time is paused there I will take advantage of that, but no, I was not planning to burn out and I expected to be able to follow through on that."

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"How long is it going to take?"

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"Few more months for this planet. Putting the war casualties back will be a few more beyond that. Might lay down some infrastructure too."

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"And how long have you been at it -"

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"Months. I'm fast but there are so many."

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"You are fast, that's - wow, like 10,000 an hour."

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"I figured out what order to do them in on the way there. Make 'em in batches."

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"Okay. Let me know if you need anything we can do."

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"Recommend me some books about what you can do, maybe there's something you take for granted that'd be useful even if it wouldn't solve the central problem?"

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"Uh, sure, Gamp's Fundamental Limits On Transfiguration, Keddles's Charms For Household Use and her Charms For Hobbyists, Ketteridge's Garden Guide To Magical Plants and Marjoribanks's Herbology, Third Edition - fourth edition's better if you happen to read French -"

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"I do. Perks of being a daeva, we cheat at languages." Stack of books.

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"Lucky you! Uh, Strougler in An Enchanter's Overview, Hipworth's Potions for the 19th Century, Alderton in Duelist's Guide. That should at least mention most spells and give some clue as to what there's promise for in future development."

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More stack. "Thanks. You occupied or should I give you some books too?"

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"I would love book recommendations from the future, my runes homework can really kind of wait."

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"Inconveniently much of my education was aimed at demons and assumes the ability to create arbitrary material objects but I should be able to come up with some things that don't..." And presently Timothy has a stack of his own, medicine and electrical engineering and computer science and such.

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"Thanks. ...do you mind if I use a dictation quill to take notes, I can make it so you can't hear me speaking to it but some people find that annoying in its own right."

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"Won't bother me."

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Silencing charm! Very very long letter to his father! And he settles in and starts reading.

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Cam asks Bar for a meal recommendation, which he buys with counterfeit and eats while he works.

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The future has lots of stuff and he has absolutely no scientific education. This is very interesting reading.

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"Do go ahead and ask if something is too void of context."

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"I've just been presenting it all to my father as a puzzle, I bet there is enough context and it's just that I'm not good enough with it and he'll be able to come up with an explanation."

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"I will be very surprised if Introduction to Concepts of Programming published in 2038 has enough context for people in 1802 who are not personally Charles Babbage. Maybe not even him, when was he -" Looks it up. "He's currently thirteen in your world, so likely not even him."

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"I will tell him that you said that and then he will try twice as hard. Might still be beyond him, I don't know, but there's also enough here that I'm not in a hurry to get to Introduction to Concepts of Programming either."

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"Well, there's 'information-theoretically possible to extract value from' and 'enough'."

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"Okay, okay, what is programming and why would Charles Babbage be able to do it."

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"He invented the concept. Maybe unless you count Jacquard, who may have done his bit already, but Babbage is more directly relevant to computers. Programming is how you get computers to do things that are not 'sit there' and 'inefficiently heat the room'."

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"And computers are your little stick thing -"

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"Computers start as monstrosities that take up entire rooms and can barely add two-digit numbers. Eventually they are my stick thing that obeys my thoughts and is cryptographically secure against demons and can hold more writing than the entire human race has as of 1802 produced."

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"- wow -"

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"I'm fond of my stick thing."

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"I bet. Any guesses as to why they don't work in Hogwarts -"

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"Are there other things that likewise won't?"

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"There's the thing Minor's constantly toying with - with the voltaic piles - he got electric eels in to check if they worked, they work fine, so it's something else going wrong with voltaic piles -"

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"Brains work on electricity too, so it can't be electricity generically, eels or no eels. I suppose wizard brains might run on magic, so the eels rule out 'wizards are the only organisms with brains to set foot on the grounds'... metaphorical feet..."

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"There're wards to stop Muggles from coming to Hogwarts but I don't think they'd die if they did. I could fetch Minor, ask if he's gotten anywhere on the theories."

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"If you have sparrows on the grounds - nonmagical ones, I mean - then electricity generically is not the thing. And lightning, do you have that."

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"We have both lightning and sparrows."

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"So orderly inorganic electricity, or something. Does clockwork behave?"

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"I have never heard complaints about it misbehaving and there are five Ravenclaws in the family."

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"I don't know what a Ravenclaw is, except in the uninformative orinthological sense."

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"Students at Hogwarts are, at the age of eleven, sorted into one of the four Houses by a magic hat that reads your personality and places you accordingly. The houses are Slytherin, the house of ambition and cunning, Ravenclaw, the house for the love of knowledge for its own sake, Hufflepuff, the house for the classic virtues - perseverance, hard work, justness - and Gryffindor, for bravery and passion."

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"That sounds like an interesting sociology experiment except for the involvement of the magic hat."

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"There're real personality differences. Everyone knew my father'd be a Ravenclaw by the time he was three, and I am told it became obvious I was a Slytherin around the same age, though when I was six I heard that most Ministers of Magic have been Hufflepuffs and started pretending to be driven by hard work, justness, and so on - fooled some people, did not fool the hat -"

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"...that is adorable."

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"Know alternate universe versions of anyone else well enough to guess their houses?"

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"I don't think I'll award myself any points for figuring that the one of your brothers who at least in Elf form is named rather presciently after his dad is a Ravenclaw too?"

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"That's Minor. And yes, he is."

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"Do people literally name children 'Minor' in your era?"

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"...yes? Is that something future people find objectionable."

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"It's not a serious social controversy or anything but it is deeply unfashionable. Your name ages pretty well and does not call into question whether you will experience paradox upon reaching the age of majority."

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"Timothy, Michael, Theodore, Aaron, Minor, James, Samuel."

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"James is a girl's name now."

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"...huh. And no special resemblance to the lookalikes' names - it is more than just lookalikes, really, isn't it -"

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"Name resemblance - exists? It is not overwhelming. And I thought that was clear at this point."

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"I am struggling to think of explanations, but - yeah, does sound like it. Anyway, Michael's a Slytherin with me, Theodore's a Gryffindor, Aaron and Minor and Samuel are Ravenclaws, James is a Hufflepuff - twins don't usually split, they were a little disappointed - my parents were both Ravenclaws -"

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"I am not closely socially acquainted with the Elf versions but all right."

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"- the war, or -"

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"The war. They seemed like nice enough people, we had a good working relationship."

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"Maybe once everything is resolved I will go check in on them. I sort of doubt they're okay and - maybe it'd help if they were needed to fix my world."

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"Maybe."

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Reading! "Can I have my notebooks back to copy them really quickly, I want to make some edits -"

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"Yeah." Cam shoves them across the bar surface. "The ruminating on who to marry is startlingly unromantic; 2179 frowns on mixing politics and marital status. I don't actually know how Elves feel about it."

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"If you got rid of all the hereditary titles you could probably mostly stifle political marriages but I can't imagine there'd stop being practical ones."

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"Admittedly the case - though a lot less so post-scarcity, much less tempting to marry for money at that point - but it's customary to at least heavily frost the decisionmaking process with at least a pretense of affection."

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"Once I pick someone I'll court her, I just - can't seem to grasp the appeal of using feelings to choose someone instead of developing them for someone you chose."

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"I suppose that's pragmatic" and also totally a cover but in 1802 some people don't know yet when they're seventeen probably and maybe it doesn't actually match.

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He taps his notebooks a couple times - "Okay, I think they should now count as Not Magic, and you'd be faster at copying them than I would, want to try -"

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Notebooks?

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Notebooks!


"Thank you!" Tap tap tap and he hands them back over and starts annotating the copies.

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And commentary on world domination ensues.

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Eventually he is hungry.

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He may avail himself of either the bar or the demon but neither reads minds.

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"I may have spent all my money on presents for the whole school, can you do a snack?"

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"Sure, what do you want?"

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"What do they eat in 2179?"

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"Eating meat that used to be an animal is frowned upon, and there is a global trade in fruit and spices and stuff, but nothing's jumping out at me as intro to 2179 cuisine..."

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"There's meat that didn't used to be an animal? Or do you just mean 'conjured'-"

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"Conjured or grown in a vat."

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"Huh. Uh, I'm not picky - I can also have someone hold the door and head down to the kitchens and grab something -"

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"How about pizza," suggests Cam, handing him a plate. He makes one for himself, demonstrates how to eat it.

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Pizza is weird. He likes pizza. "Wow. Thank you."

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"You're welcome." Nom.

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"Get anywhere on magic you can use?"

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"Lots of nice-to-haves, fewer gamechangers. At least given the presence of daeva, who can already do free energy and stuff."

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Nod. "If anyone in Hell would be entertained by being an endangered dragon reserve that'd be great but - yeah, doesn't solve your root problem. What are the magical effects Valinor had before -"

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"A timefucking thing, made everything grow ten times slower without feeling like it. And decay just sort of didn't happen, when I packed their ships full of food for them they were confused by the cans..."

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"They want to grow ten times slower without feeling like it?"

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"I'm not sure it's unanimous, to be fair."

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"Decay's probably doable but - house by house -"

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"How long would it take?"

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"I don't know, I could send some owls and get you an estimate."

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"...owls?"

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"...how does 2179 do long-distance communication?"

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"Demons for interplanetary priority because we get around lightspeed, computers for everything else. Owls? Pigeons are faster even if you have to use birds for some reason, and they home, how do owls find people?"

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"I've never heard of them having any trouble with it..."

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"Owls," mutters Cam. "Are they at least magic owls."

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"I don't know. Muggles know about owls, so they're not magical creatures by our definition, but maybe they're different than your world's owls."

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"Do Muggles know about mail-carrying owls? How do you handle packages?"

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"Shrink them, usually. I do not think Muggles know about mail-carrying owls."

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"But you don't know if someone is enchanting the owls before they begin their careers."

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"I know everybody, I would know if someone did that professionally. But it's possible owls are descended from owls so enchanted, or that being around wizards makes them smarter, or something."

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"I suppose I could try making a postal owl but if it worked I'd then have a demonic owl."

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"I can have someone look it up, the Care of Magical Creatures professor might know."

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"It's not important exactly, it just. Sounds stupid."

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"It works well enough. I think Muggles just have people carry their letters to each other."

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"It works. People can, like, read addresses."

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"So can our owls! I have quite a few letters to send anyway, you want to meet the owls when I do?"

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"Sure, why not, I would love to meet your literate owls."

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He folds a piece of paper into a paper airplane, taps it, opens the door, and lets it fly off. "I'm fetching my little brother, he can go to the Owlery and get the owls."

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"The paper airplane trick is cute."

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"Can't do that for correspondence, they don't stand the weather well."

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"You can't waterproof a piece of paper?"

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"That's trivial - wind's a little harder, but can still be done - but the more charms on the paper the faster the flight and finding ones will wear off."

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"Why?"

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"Classical answer's that spells that aren't carefully designed to overlap well interfere with each other just slightly, eventually altering effects slightly - which doesn't matter too much if it's a light or something, it might be a little dimmer or occasionally flicker, but a flight and navigation spell that's a percent off is no good at all. There's a competing theory that the problem's really the divination - navigation on those is technically a minor divination, it's going to my brother rather than to a fixed location and even if I were sending it to, say, his favored study spot the spell would need to navigate Hogwarts."

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"Why is your school named that."

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"Do you find it objectionable or just silly like the owls?"

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"Silly but in a more juvenile way."

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"I have no idea why it's called that beyond 'the founders named it'."

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"They had weird taste in names, then."

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"It was around a thousand years ago, maybe tastes in names changed between then and now like between now and 2179."

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"Hog. Warts."

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"You call yourself a demon and the place you're from Hell!"

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"It's called that in English because of some mythological overlap! In demon languages it's called other stuff better translated as 'maker' and 'emptiness'!"

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"Well, Hogwarts is Hogwarts and no one has time travel good enough to go ask the founders why."

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"Yeah, I noticed the limited state of the art on time travel."

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"Promising as a field of research but - probably never going to be able to reach back years, not without significant risk of disaster."

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"Disaster, oh no." Sigh.

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"...do you have preferences about what I tell people who I have running errands -"

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"I would consider it unreasonable to ask anyone to keep the obvious thing secret."

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"If I need to get permission from the board of governors to allocate this wing of Hogwarts to time travel magic and so on, and I probably do, some people will be impressed with you."

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"...the upshot being?"

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"Even if you'd consider it inappropriate to have preferences about what people know, you might still consider yourself entitled to have preferences about whether people come try coaxing you into killing their enemies for them or just striking up enough acquaintance that the threat is implicitly present."

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"I would not like to be coaxed into killing people, I find I have no taste for it at all."

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"I noticed. So I might neglect to mention things to people who are likely to be stupid, if that's all right."

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"Thanks."

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"And until we know whether mind-controlling magic works on you."

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"Yeah. What's the safe testing-it-out range of spells look like?"

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"Cheering charm? Though part of the problem here is that even if you're immune to most things, the scariest stuff is also the stuff it's rarest to be able to counter - even if you shrug off everything we try I wouldn't give it better than 50-50 that the Imperius doesn't affect you - was that in the notes -"

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"I mean, if it's an extension of my indestructibility it might work the other way around, I am just as vulnerable to a pinprick as you are but I just stay only yea vulnerable even if the pin is applied with more force, but point taken - if it was in what I got I haven't found it yet."

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"There're three spells called the Unforgivables, because attempted use against a human or the other species we are lately acknowledging as people is an automatic life sentence in Azkaban. One does mind control, one does torture, one is instantly lethal. Why they're a bigger deal, by law, than other ways of achieving the same effect - love potions aren't even illegal - is mostly historical reasons, but it's also claimed they're impossible to cast without malicious intent - you couldn't use the Killing Curse to help someone in pain pass quickly - 

- it is not an area with any published research, so I am not especially equipped to guess if that's right."

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"Is your wand inherently magical?" Cam wonders.

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"Probably, why -"

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"Demon powers are useful for finding things out, I can conjure by things like time and location to a certain extent without knowing what I expect to get, it might let me see somebody unexpected with a wand on them coming if I could make them, but if I can't it won't work."

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"You're welcome to try - also, if you can make them then no one'd mind too much if you broke them in a fit of paranoia, while if you can't then that'll be very unpopular, warranted as paranoia probably is."

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Cam is now holding what looks like a duplicate of Timothy's wand. "It is still possible it won't work, like this, depending on the way in which magic wands are that."

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"But you can use it for checking, that's good. I can check if it works -" he extends a hand for it -

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Cam hands it over.

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He makes a sharp precise gesture, then a different one - "Nope. Looks like you can make inert wands."

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"Well, still works forensically and won't upset whoever sells them."

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"Yeah. ...this also probably isn't in the books I recommended you, but wizards can do some stuff wandless, not spells but you wouldn't want to assume a wizard without a wand is effectively a Muggle."

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"What kinda stuff?"

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"Some people are Animagi - can turn into animals - very skilled people can still Apparate - there're cultures that don't use wands and do it all by gesture or with some other focus but that's near-impossible to pick up if you don't start with it -"

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"Noted."

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"We can take as long as we want, subjectively, to bring any of this to the attention of any people I don't trust completely."

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And someone comes racing around the corner, raises an eye at the door, and then raises an eye at his brother. 

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"Hey! Minor, this is Cam; Cam, this is one of my little brothers."

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"We're in the same Arithmancy class," he says, squinting at the bar again, "so not that little."

Timothy lets the door close. 

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"Hi," says Cam.

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"Hi - can you actually fly with those, I thought humans didn't have the right skeletal structure for that - oooh -" and he races over to peer at the window - 

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"...Yes, I can fly with these."

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"How do you do it? Where is this place?"

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"I flap. It is called Milliways."

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"I mean how do you do the spell for the wings, not how do you fly once you've got them. What're the stars - is there a vantage point where I'd get this view - why are so many of them exploding, stars explode but in any given night sky there really shouldn't be several of them doing it -"

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"Didn't use a spell. I have no explanation for the stars."

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"...okay, potion, whatever, if it's proprietary I'll pay you, or Timothy can give you a continent -"

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"I don't have many of those left to give out."

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"I'm not in the market for a continent. If you want wings you need to be done growing and certain you care to keep them first."

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"Okay - Timothy, what -"

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"Cam is from the year 2179."

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"That's the most important thing that has ever happened."

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"I think you could make a case for the discovery of fire."

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"Not if you guys were remotely efficient - what can you do, what do I need to learn -"

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"There's a confounding factor here where my world also has a different magic system."

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"Huh. How? Is your magic system the one that does time travel -"

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"No, this location is a separate thing."

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" - okay -"

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"I wrote Father. Things get significantly nicer for Muggles in the future, we want to roll things out as quickly as possible without enabling certain institutions which are supposed to die very shortly. Did you have hypotheses on why electric devices don't work at Hogwarts, it turns out to be important -"

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"Told you so. Likeliest explanation is that the lightning ward dissipates inorganic concentrations of electric charge, we can lobby to have it fixed if you stop hoarding your political capital -"

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"There are no resources I am holding back from this, promise."

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He bounces into his brother's arms. "Whatdoyoudo with electricity - is there something I should read -"

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"There is nothing entitled A Wizard From 1802's Guide To Electricity but I gave your brother some books, you can have copies too if you like." Books.

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"You can conjure books? Do they not have copyright charms -" he snatches them -

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"Different magic system. No such thing as copyright charms," says Cam. "I don't actually know if a copyright charm is the right kind of thing to obstruct me."

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He flops down and starts reading. 

 

 

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"...anyway. I can write a petition to get electricity working in Hogwarts but that's probably not the first thing we should be doing."

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"Are you imagining getting started with or without me on hand, different implications there."

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"What are you comfortable with?"

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"I mean, it's much faster to do most things with a demon around, I'm just contemplating logistics, don't know how long you want to wait."

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"Conveniently if I keep the door closed there aren't even people dying while we make up our minds. We might as well test whatever's useful first, possibly with the exception of keeping the door open long enough to fetch my father because he'll think of things I won't."

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"Yeah, that seems worth it."

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"Minor, can you go get an owl -"

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"You go get an owl."

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He makes another paper airplane instead, stands and holds the door and watches it fly off.

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"Owls," mutters Cam.

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"If you've got a fancy futuristic way of reaching my father I am sure he'd be delighted to receive a message from that instead."

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"If you happen to know exactly how far away he or a place he'll look are, I can drop something there, but there would need to already be a thing. Can't pilot a drone if electricity doesn't work."

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"I know where the house is, but probably not exactly enough - if you could make, like, a really good map -"

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"The map would have to have already been mapped; can you name one of sufficient quality?"

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"You can't do just a small version of the whole island - anyway, no, I don't know a sufficiently good map for that -"

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"I can, but less magic parts. And we don't have room for one big enough to see a house."

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"Owls it is, then."

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Snort.

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"What are you writing him do you even know all the things he'll need to know -"

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"I'm sure I don't. I was planning to just tell him to come here."

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"Could attach some doodad, if going through Hogwarts won't permanently break it, I don't know how plausible you can make the urgency."

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"If we tell Dad come here right away he'll Apparate to the gates and then fly from there, that's not the problem - Timothy you could try to talk an Elf into taking a message -"

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" -oooh, that's worth a shot -"

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"These are the magical slaves?"

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"Yes. - if you object we don't have to, but they won't mind -"

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"I'm curious, actually, and I assume they won't stop being magical slaves if I don't look at them."

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"I wish." Door open - "Hey, Nippy?" he says to the empty air.

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Nippy materializes. "Mr. Timothy is wanting Nippy?"

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"I need a really big favor, actually. We need my father right away to consult on something about Hogwarts security. Is there any way you can go to my house and get him, or call one of our family elves?"

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Nippy furrows his brow. "Nippy can go and tell the family elves if it is for Hogwarts security, Mr. Timothy." Fervent nodding. "What is their names?"

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"Niblet, Whimsy, Tipsy, Whoopsie and Daisy. Thank you very much."

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Nippy bows and disappears.

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"I think you may have preyed upon that elf's commitment to the safety of your stupidly named institution."

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"The presence in Hogwarts of a portal to another world which will otherwise have to stay open for the next two days while an owl reaches my father is absolutely a security concern."

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"Your magic owls aren't even particularly quick, huh."

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"They're - owl-paced."

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"Owls are not even overland distance fliers ducks would make more sense why owls."

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"Maybe there's a mention in a history book somewhere, it's not on my N.E.W.T.s -"

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"He's a kind of incurious person."

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"That's not fair at all."

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"If it were just you you wouldn't even know about electricity not working in Hogwarts."

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"To be entirely fair I'm not curious about the owls because owls are interesting or useful, I am curious because they are bizarre, and they probably seem normal to you."

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"I think it's not ducks because that'd be less dignified. I bet at some point it was a class thing and then even once everyone was doing it it still had enough of the class-thing feel to it that no one wanted to deviate for practicality."

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"Not a bad guess."

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"Could be."

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And pop that's a houseelf and a man who Cam will definitely recognize. "Timothy, what - Minor -"

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"He's from 2179 and there are three different magic systems involved and time freezes when you close the door so close the door we're going to learn everything they knew by 2179 and then I assume Timothy's planning to take over the world."

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"- Niblet, can you grab my things -"

The elf vanishes - "Timothy was planning to do that anyway. Are those books from 2179 -"

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"Cam, my father, Finis. Father -"

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"Nice to meet you," he says distractedly, pulling Minor and eight books into his lap.

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"...I'll just amuse myself till somebody has questions, I suppose."

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"Do you have an explanation of things loosely tailored to where we're at, I assume the books won't be -"

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"Not prepped, no, and I'm not up on your context because my world lacks wizards and I never studied nineteenth century history and even if I had I have spent the last several years participating in a war with an alternate universe version of you against an evil god on a non-Earth."

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"...okay. I - really really want to read these books but I guess we should - start with that, actually - uh - go on -"

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"Which bit?"

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"...gods, alternate universe versions of people, wars, non-Earth -"

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"I'm a member of a summonable class of beings typically summoned into a world with an Earth where it's 2179. I got summoned in a fluke happenstance to a world with fifteen large gods, one of whom is extremely evil, and like a million assorted smaller ones, some also evil, and a species I will call Quendi for disambiguating purposes, which includes a family composed of what seem to be as I said alternate universes of you and your kids, who were when I arrived preparing to go from their home planet Valinor to a different planet called Endorë to fight the evil god, and I went along since I have useful magical powers, and there was a war, which was very unpleasant but is now over."

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" - okay. Has anyone in 2179 or the alternate planet figured out aging, because if not I still need to get the Philosopher's Stone before we can do anything interesting, time-stop or no -"

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"Much improved but not solved; my world there's a disappointing but legitimate afterlife, can't say for yours."

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"There's no way to check?"

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"I can try conjuring from it but that'll only work if it's not, say, inherently magical in some way."

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"We have no reason to expect there's an afterlife except, I guess, that your world has one."

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"Mine is not obvious to the living and used to be even less so, for whatever that's worth to you."

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"If you can make old notes you might be able to settle all sorts of old rumored lost magics..."

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"He can make old notes? I want Flamel's, please."

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"Would Flamel want you to have them?" wonders Cam.

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"I don't actually care."

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"Flamel's the only known creator of the Philosopher's Stone."

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"I will make them searchable and look for references thereto and we can stay out of his personal life, then, how about."

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"Make them searchable?"

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"In 2179 print books are uncommon because it's possible to store information very small and in such a way that nonmagical conveniences can manipulate the content in various ways such as by finding bits of it that say 'Philosopher's Stone' and not 'dear Grandma, for Christmas I want socks'. This will not help if Flamel was in the habit of writing coded letters to Grandma, but it is a reasonable first step." He tucks the works of Flamel into his computer and runs a search. "If he has ever written about the Philosopher's Stone he did so in code or in some inherently magical fashion."

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"Frustrating. All right. I should - take one year to learn more science and technology and then go back to that."

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"Seems reasonable."

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"So - where do I start -"

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"Everything in that stack is as introductory as I could easily come up with without being actively misleading."

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Nod. "Thank you. And, ah - it is nice to meet you - do you need anything -"

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...Shrug.

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He hands a book to Minor and opens one and settles in.

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He casts something. "Now they can't hear us; they'll cancel it if they want to. Do you want to write up some kind of standard explanation for people who need to know - won't be a long list, but -"

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"That's probably a good idea but I'm genuinely not sure how to do it without seeming either defensive or like I'm looking to brag to the kind of person who's impressed by the capacity to destroy planets. Or both."

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"I was thinking we'd just not tell people who'd be impressed. What's the worry about seeming defensive, exactly -"

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"If I say it would be inappropriate are you just going to argue about something unrelated to whether it would be appropriate or not again?"

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"I don't think whether it was right is unrelated to whether it would be appropriate but no, I'm actually just trying to help you come up with an overview so people don't constantly ask questions that awkwardly trip on it."

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Sigh. "I would like to put it in enough context that people don't expect me to go about committing random acts of violence, without trying to make assertions about whether I drew the line in the right place, had any business drawing it, etcetera, and I don't know how to do that."

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"That makes sense but - I think people in my world might suck more than you are accounting for."

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"...and?"

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"...and I cannot imagine anyone being at all inclined to debate whether you drew the line in the right place or had any business drawing it? We're still on 'are Muggles people', here."

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"So, what, killing fifty five million Elves and assorted deities is no big deal because they didn't have magic sticks?"

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"Is going to be a more common reaction than people getting mad at you for it, yes."

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"One would have to be not only morally bankrupt but also fairly dense to imagine that magical demons from 2179 sort potential murder victims in this way."

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"Oh, I'm not saying they won't be scared, I'm saying it wouldn't even occur to them that there's something to judge you for."

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"I suppose I'll take your word for it."

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"You also don't really want to be blackmailable and it's sort of an announcement you're blackmailable - no one here can in fact offer that much of a bribe, but -"

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"What, 'do as I say or I'll publicize the fact that you singlehandedly caused more civilian deaths than World War Two' - not that they'd make the comparison - I told you it wasn't a secret."

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"World war they number them? No, I mean, you made a deal with the evil god wherein he stopped torturing people and you killed people for him, if the magnitude of the 'stopped torturing people' isn't adequately conveyed people will think they can get that deal."

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"That is extortion, not blackmail, but you make an excellent point. Possibly also relevant that he was doing so en masse before the notion that anybody he might be able to make this or any similar deal with came along. ...There were only the two, at least by nomenclature."

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"Yay. Let's try for zero. Is it relevant that the evil god was doing this long before you arrived, would you not have taken the deal if he'd started in order to get your attention -"

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"I would have considered the implications. I did at one point threaten to warn the fourteen not-extremely-evil deities that the deal was on the table if he - fucked with the rules of engagement too much. If they'd been warned it wouldn't have worked."

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"Okay. So - not many people need to know at all, but summary for the ones who do that conveys mostly the extreme unusualness of the circumstances."

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"Sure."

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"Does that accomplish your goals in sharing it?"

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"The relevant ones, pretty much."

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" - do you prefer I pretend you're okay, or -"

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"I prefer not to prompt anyone to consider my emotional state a particularly salient feature of the situation?"

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"...okay. I'll try."

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"I can produce preferences which aren't that if it's inconvenient."

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"There's enough else going on it might be okay. I am not very good at being indifferent to the wellbeing of people around me."

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"I don't object in principle to being cheered up, I don't think I forfeited the right to ever be happy again or anything so morbid."

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"Oh, good. I think we should vaccinate against everything right now, our population is tiny compared to the populations by the time you finally got around to it -"

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"Some of the vaccines would need reengineering, the diseases have probably changed. Malaria's easy because I can just wipe out the carrier species."

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"Do you know anyone who can do the reengineering - can any of the Elves or whatever -"

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"No, they have totally different biology; there are humans in the world but they're new, like, 'overdeity dropped them pretty much mid-war' new, nobody knows how their immunology works; I know people in Hell who are acquainted with the field, it's possible we could get someone to summon one of them."

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"Might be worth it - we should check if summoning works here, but we shouldn't check in Hogwarts, even if it works in general there might be wards against it here."

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"Is that a reason not to check, or just a reason to check outside the wards even if it doesn't work inside?"

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"It'd probably fail gracefully but I wouldn't completely rule out a bad interaction like 'it lets summoning through but objects to bindings'."

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"Ah. Yeah, immunologists I met in medical school are not the most dangerous class of demon by a long shot but still."

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"Are there particularly dangerous classes of demon -"

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"I don't mean that in the sense of there being different kinds, just different personalities."

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"Ah. Anyway, we can check off the grounds - and should soon, that rather changes the best way to fix things up, if we can summon people -"

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"I can make it fast, I can make most of a safe circle and a human can fill it in. Do you know any Muggles in case they can do it and wizards can't?"

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"It'd be a statute violation, alerting a Muggle to magic even if it's not our kind -"

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"That's weird that the Statute is worded that way. Anyway, they don't need to know what they're doing, we can have most of the circle on the other side of a wall."

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"That works? In that case yes, I could find someone."

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"It is entirely possible to accidentally summon or I wouldn't have appeared when an Elf kid drew on the floor."

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"I mean, the wall doesn't disrupt it or something. - if the Elf kid hears about what happened would he - be upset -"

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"I dropped a black hole on his home planet what do you think. He doesn't know yet because if he dismisses me I won't be able to put everybody back."

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"You have control over his means of finding out?"

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"Before I waded into the war I made him and his family and some other families a planet in the middle of intergalactic space where they'd be safe, because if he died I'd be dismissed, too."

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"Okay but if they summon someone to ask for the news -"

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"Their most recent information suggests that the fourteen dead gods were alarmed that I had been summoned and made it impossible to repeat the feat."

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"Okay. I'll think how to find a Muggle to help us with the summoning test."

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"Only matters if wizards can't, which is possible since daeva can't even when we used to be humans, but yeah."

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"You can also write your immunologist friends and ask them to work on it for us in Hell, right? or would they be disinclined to do that -"

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"I can, yes, but it's hard to get rigor on a hypothetical 'imagine you were trying to vaccinate the population of 1802' - and I'm not actually sure if they'll be able to conjure from your Earth, because there've never previously been results like 'tried to make a replica of the British Isles, got two copies'."

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"No precedent for accidents like the one you had?"

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"None."

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"Anyone asked Bar how many worlds there are -"

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"I have not and I don't think your brother or father have talked to her at all..."

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"I maybe should have led with that, it's potentially as interesting as the 2179 thing - Bar, how many worlds are there, do you know?"

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I'm afraid I simply can't keep track of such quantities.

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"More than a thousand?"

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Oh yes, by many orders of magnitude.

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He reads this to Cam - "what does that mean -"

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"Means you undershot. A lot. More than an octillion?" Cam inquires.

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More than that.

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"And there's never been an accidental summons anywhere else - how hard is it to do by accident -"

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"Hard but not all that hard. I would actually be surprised if the Elf kid was the first person to manage it. But there's never been an accidental summons anywhere else from my daeva worlds - that's, uh, clearly not quite conclusive -"

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"You think there might be other daeva worlds?"

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"Maybe there's more than an octillion special snowflakes but I kind of doubt that."

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"I have no concept of how many an octillion is -"

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"One followed by 27 zeroes. ...In American convention; I think Britain does it differently. For reference Earth has about seven quintillion grains of sand on it and a quintillion is one followed by eighteen zeroes."

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"- so then there's somewhere that can do your resurrections, we just need to find it -"

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Nod.

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"Maybe we should be asking Bar for a different genre of books."

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"What do you have in mind? I'm assuming that magic-in-general cannot be performed via any simple action taken by people from worlds where that magic isn't standard, at least not usually or naively, or we'd both be from worlds with more than one magic system."

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"Ways to get between worlds."

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"Same constraint likely applies - Bar?"

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The only method the means for which are available here are door-based and require a patron to hold the door to whichever world you wish to visit.

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"Are there records of other methods?"

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Summoning is an example; there are others, none of which I expect to be learnable from books.

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"Okay. Thanks."

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I do apologize.

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"We appreciate your help very much." 

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"I'll take some books on summoning and on interdimensional travel in general," he says without looking up.

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Bar coughs up three recommendations.

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"Thank you," he says for his father, and hands him the books, and to Cam - "I want a list of priorities or something - there's multiverse stuff, there's recovering old lost magic in our world, if the notes aren't all magic themselves, there's figuring out if we have summoning and developing vaccinations to everything -"

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"Vaccines are big but not even the only thing - flattening out the economy is big, electricity is big, global communication is big -"

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"Flattening out the economy?"

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"Making it easier to trade. Everything gets cheaper when that happens and stuff gets invented faster."

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"Aaron's going to be all smug. I'm not sure it's worth waiting to repeal the Statute, actually - it'll be years -"

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"It does seem like it'd be very annoying to work around in the meantime."

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"The problem is that the Statute does a few good things I'd want to have other institutions in place to do, like 'not let people enslave Muggles' -"

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"I believe in 1802 people are already enslaving Muggles, yes?"

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"Muggles are enslaving Muggles and we are going to stop them. Wizards can much more conveniently enslave Muggles and are currently not doing that."

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"I'm aware, but that's not what you actually said and if you're considering politicking among non-wizards you'll want to keep an eye on it. About how many wizards are there? How would one be caught if they decided to enslave some Muggles?"

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"That's kind of the problem, Imperius isn't detectable. There're around two million wizards worldwide - we're about 1/500 -"

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"...that's tiny, especially if you have any decent healing magic - are half your kids not wizards or did you just have a really early demographic transition or -?"

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"Wizards' kids are almost always wizards, wizards do kind of get themselves killed a fair bit, average family size is in fact below two if that's what you mean -"

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"That's what I mean. It takes birth control and a higher standard of living to get people to do that but I suppose magic gets you there sooner."

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"We have birth control. I - don't actually know much about how convenient or scalable it is, or whether it's even safe for Muggles - Michael would -"

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"There are very nearly perfect nonmagical options available, just not in 1802."

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"Distributable without a lot of other infrastructure, though? Not that it's at all obvious that should be a priority -"

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"The very best stuff you need training to administer, but there's dramatically-better-than-nothing options that could theoretically be dropped with brief written instructions and little parachutes. It's not up there with malaria but it is kind of a big deal for social progress, honestly."

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"I don't think most Muggles can read."

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"Brief little videos, then, except they'd be censored instantly, likely as not... 2002 would be much easier than 1802."

Permalink Mark Unread

"I am sure it's 2002 somewhere in the multiverse. What would they have, less censorious governments or -"

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"Higher literacy rates too."

Permalink Mark Unread

"We can fix all these things, I just don't have a feel for the best order of operations."

Permalink Mark Unread

"Yeah, me either, for some reason I never entertained the hypothetical 'what if I meet a wizard from 1802'."

Permalink Mark Unread

"And I put a fair bit of thought into taking over the world with less resources than this but there are probably a dozen other things like birth control that haven't even occurred to me -"

Permalink Mark Unread

"Yeah, the up to date political controversies in 2002 would probably be unrecognizable, let alone 2179."

Permalink Mark Unread

"Do tell."

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"In 2002 I turned fifteen years old and some people had recently flown some hijacked aircraft into some New York City skyscrapers and as what approximates a result the US attacked some tangentially related countries in what was widely perceived as an attempt to collect more petroleum, the principal use of which is fueling vehicles, and security procedures around boarding airplanes were tightened and there were a lot of political cartoons about taking our shoes off... My mother was moderately active in a movement to get more general acceptance of the idea of same-sex marriage and the right to legally change one's gender on one's identification..." He consults his computer. "The former currencies of the European Union countries stopped being legal tender... an early version of what was eventually a very popular open source web browser was released..."

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"Okay, you win. What's a skyscraper, what an evocative word..."

Permalink Mark Unread

"A really really tall building! These ones were almost fourteen hundred feet high and were at the time among the tallest in the world."

Permalink Mark Unread

"Wizards have flight, mostly on broomsticks but I take it the Muggles get it too -"

Permalink Mark Unread

"An airplane of the early 2000s could get to Australia from the United States in a little under a day carrying several hundred passengers and by then this was accessible with a little budgeting to middle class people. Gets cheaper and faster later."

Permalink Mark Unread

"What does it take to put those things in place -"

Permalink Mark Unread

"As with my medical education my engineering education is very 'for demons' and you probably don't want me personally making every aircraft for an entire planet. But we can find out."

Permalink Mark Unread

"How does the government end up being structured -"

Permalink Mark Unread

"Representative democracies, tending towards sort of federated structures like the aforementioned European Union as various regions and groups bid for independence and then want to voluntarily participate in trade union sorts of things. And then there's Luna and Mars which do their own thing, I haven't looked into them very closely."

Permalink Mark Unread

"That sounds hard to manage but not impossible - manage in the sense of having all the actual decision power, I mean, maybe that's the wrong thing to aim for -"

Permalink Mark Unread

"Yes, they are not dictatorships, that's sort of the point."

Permalink Mark Unread

"The question is whether they make good decisions often enough I can trust them to do that."

Permalink Mark Unread

"Kind of aggressively low-variance mediocrity, which is also sort of the point."

Permalink Mark Unread

"Are you super attached to doing it that way?"

Permalink Mark Unread

"Not really."

Permalink Mark Unread

"It seems like kind of a shame to have access to unthinkable cosmic power and use it to set up low-variance mediocrity."

Permalink Mark Unread

"I encourage you to improve on that. The low variance part does matter, things run more smoothly when everything's predictable; mediocrity is a side effect."

Permalink Mark Unread

"Yeah, I can see the benefits of predictability. The Minister's an elected position and I was planning to be elected to it, it's not an inherently terrible way of doing things, just - if you put Muggle personhood to a vote it'd be a close one, if you prohibited making more house-elf type species you'd lose a vote badly - people are not that great -"

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"It's important to enfranchise the population. If you let Muggles vote on their personhood the nays would be a rounding error. I suppose you might get different results if you let house elves vote though."

Permalink Mark Unread

"Or let everyone vote on whether they can make themselves house-elves - or whether to kill werewolves on sight -"

Permalink Mark Unread

"I didn't say enfranchisement was a complete solution."

Permalink Mark Unread

"Maybe universal literacy and less - desperation - gets you the rest of the way."

Permalink Mark Unread

"Not instantly, but yeah."

Permalink Mark Unread

"There anything they're still wrong about in 2179?"

Permalink Mark Unread

"Well, daeva rights are a work in progress but we don't have to take summons if we don't care to so it's not urgent. There's some neglectful behavior by lunar colony leaders that nobody's come up with a way to effectively police. I think they went a little overboard on the protections for animals thing but maybe that's just because I was born in 1987. People have not come to any kind of constructive agreement on certain matters of disability rights and integration."

Permalink Mark Unread

"Protections for animals?"

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"I mentioned it's not customary to eat things that used to be them."

Permalink Mark Unread

"That could be 'you have to be sufficiently nice to them that conjuring's more economically efficient' or 'killing owls would be prosecuted as murder' -"

Permalink Mark Unread

"Killing owls is not prosecuted as murder, but killing elephants or apes or cetaceans is, plus an environmental regulation charge. Some places protect corvids and cephalopods and monkeys and the parrot family that strongly too. It's not just more economically efficient to conjure your meat or eggs or dairy, it's outright illegal to farm animals for meat, milk too some places, eggs is okay most jurisdictions as long as you're exquisitely kind to the poultry."

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"- wow."

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"But it doesn't really matter if I think it's silly, I make everything I eat."

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"And it's less uncanny than having the future just agree with me about everything."

Permalink Mark Unread

"Yeah, that would be a bit odd."

Permalink Mark Unread

"I was imagining trying to explain to some of my friends 'I met people from the future and by the future everyone has decided that it's completely obvious all varieties of people should have the same rights which is quite a lot of them, and the Statute is ridiculous and memory charms are terrible and slavery should be immediately abolished -'"

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"Whereas in fact people have only come to this agreement about humans and maybe elephants but not daeva especially demons, let alone house elves who haven't even been brought up as a hypothesis..."

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"- how do you miss it with daeva, that's not even complicated the way werewolves are -"

Permalink Mark Unread

"What's complicated about werewolves?"

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"Couple nights a month they turn into wolves and are very dangerous to everyone around them and if they bite you turn you into a werewolf yourself."

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"...I'm not sure how that's more complicated than daeva."

Permalink Mark Unread

"It is reasonable not to want werewolf neighbors and this sucks a ton for werewolves and everyone involved dies if we set the balance wrong and is accordingly really really upset if anyone tries tipping it."

Permalink Mark Unread

"Sure, and it's reasonable to want your neighbors to be fully legally responsible for the behavior of daeva they summon so they're incentivized to get the bindings right, and that leaves daeva with no legal responsibilities of our own... and if you get it wrong an inhabited planet gets sucked into a black hole..."

Permalink Mark Unread

"Is bad incentives really the reason people get the bindings wrong?"

Permalink Mark Unread

"Not explicitly, but they do double-check them better when they'll be on the hook if something happens."

Permalink Mark Unread

"There seem like a lot of ways to achieve that which aren't 'daeva have no legal responsibility' - "

Permalink Mark Unread

"And yet this is the one we landed on. And there are ways to deal with the werewolf problem, too, like, 'werewolves are obliged to lock themselves up when they're going to turn into out of control wolves, everybody gets over themselves the rest of the month'."

Permalink Mark Unread

"It is hard to restrain yourself well enough. Not impossible but resource-intensive. Maybe the future has a solution there, though, don't know -

- are, uh, the events of the war known in Hell and your native Earth -"

Permalink Mark Unread

"I'm not sure about Hell. It depends on how much various demon curators have been conjuring for the news. News does not get from Hell to Earth particularly efficiently because demons are typically summoned with a binding that doesn't let us talk, and there haven't been Hell concordances recently to let it filter to Heaven or Fairyland or Limbo yet either."

Permalink Mark Unread

"It going to make things worse?"

Permalink Mark Unread

"Make what worse? Daeva rights? Not sure, probably not much. Could even have the opposite effect if policymakers decide that only people commit atrocities or something."

Permalink Mark Unread

"- oh, I guess you can't bring back the elephants. They'll be so upset."

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Snort. "Yep. Also Valinor had dinosaurs, although at least those laid eggs, I can do eggs."

Permalink Mark Unread

"What's a dinosaur?"

Permalink Mark Unread

"Extinct clade of animals known to Earths only in fossil form."

Permalink Mark Unread

"Huh. Okay. You can steal some of our elephants, if the new Valinor wants them."

Permalink Mark Unread

"They might be challenging to get through the door."

Permalink Mark Unread

"I have never shrunk an elephant but have no reason to expect it'd be damaging to their health."

Permalink Mark Unread

"Well, then, by all means. But we'll have to be careful, elephants have close-knit family relationships."

Permalink Mark Unread

"Hogwarts teaches transfiguration by experimentation on small mammals. Just so you know. Start with mice, get proficient with kittens."

Permalink Mark Unread

"This will complicate your relations with 2179 Earth but I really have other things I'm more inclined to worry about."

Permalink Mark Unread

"We don't even have a way to get there yet, do we?"

Permalink Mark Unread

"No, so it's really not a big deal."

Permalink Mark Unread

"The immunologists won't get upset?"

Permalink Mark Unread

"I was thinking of demon immunologists most of whom are at least twice my age."

Permalink Mark Unread

"Okay. I'll stop transfiguring kittens, I do in fact care a lot about what people on another planet think, but it's not among the first ten fights I want to pick. I am glad you have old demon acquaintances."

Permalink Mark Unread

"What do you even transfigure kittens into?"

Permalink Mark Unread

"Dishware, usually. If you can untransfigure it and still have a live kitten then you're doing the precision work correctly."

Permalink Mark Unread

"Dishware. Huh. Are kittens actually harder than rodents -?"

Permalink Mark Unread

"No - new species are harder than familiar ones, larger creatures harder than smaller ones, but mammals are all about as complicated."

Permalink Mark Unread

"Gotcha. How many kitten casualties are there usually?"

Permalink Mark Unread

"Uh, it takes most students a couple tries and there're always one or two who can't get it for the life of them. - even if future people feel very strongly about kittens I assume they feel more strongly about slavery, right, I can stop personally and mysteriously hint that scrupulous avoidance of kitten death will advantage people but it'd be a silly battle to pick beyond that -"

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"I mean, you ask people to rank a list, sure, if they hear about the kittens first they maybe make that their life mission and don't drop it in the face of other priorities."

Permalink Mark Unread

"- really."

Permalink Mark Unread

"Animal lovers. Very susceptible to kittens. On account of they're so cute."

Permalink Mark Unread

"I will advise everyone not to mention the kittens to people from 2179."

Permalink Mark Unread

"Rodents are more defensible."

Permalink Mark Unread

"Which is to say, less cute?"

Permalink Mark Unread

"That and they're prey animals and some animal lovers aren't that hypocritical."

Permalink Mark Unread

"- okay. Dare I hope we can safely continue chopping up Mandrakes?"

Permalink Mark Unread

"Dunno, what's that?"

Permalink Mark Unread

"They're plants with roots that look - and cry and so forth - like human children."

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"You may need to maneuver around champions of mandrakes even if you are very sure they are nothing more than eerie facsimiles."

Permalink Mark Unread

"We're not really very sure. I looked into it for a while and they're definitely not smarter than human babies, which is good enough for me, but -"

Permalink Mark Unread

"Infanticide is also unpopular but abortion is okay but mostly on bodily autonomy grounds..."

Permalink Mark Unread

"Maybe you have better antidotes and we can phase the Mandrakes out."

Permalink Mark Unread

"That's what they're for? Antidotes to what?"

Permalink Mark Unread

"All kinds of magical effects - undoing all kinds of curses and transfigurations, petrification, most kinds of poisoning -"

Permalink Mark Unread

"We do not have anything on deck for the curses, transfiguration, or petrification, for, uh, obvious reasons. I mean, angels can do transfiguration and petrification type things but that's different."

Permalink Mark Unread

"I wonder if our counters work on things that angels changed."

Permalink Mark Unread

"Could get awkward, since if an angel turns somebody to stone they are then just stone, i.e. dead and waking up in Limbo."

Permalink Mark Unread

"In that case it would be unwise to try saving them. ...is there a way you can check if we've got a Limbo -"

Permalink Mark Unread

"If conjuration therefrom works normally, but it is notable that people trying to conjure the complete works of Limbo and specifying no further than that have only ever got our Limbo..."

Permalink Mark Unread

"Which only has people from your world, I assume they've checked that -"

Permalink Mark Unread

"Oh yeah it would've been noticed if there were extras."

Permalink Mark Unread

"Conjuration works fine from our world, and the one you fought the war in?"

Permalink Mark Unread

"Name something which is definitely not magic which probably exists only in your world and not mine. But yeah, works in Arda all right."

Permalink Mark Unread

"Transfiguration essay next to my bed?"

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...essay? Essay.

Permalink Mark Unread

"So odds are we don't have a Limbo or anything akin to it."

Permalink Mark Unread

"Could just not be called that and we could've missed it."

Permalink Mark Unread

"- but then you could get posthumous works, right -"

Permalink Mark Unread

"Name somebody dead who'd definitely write were it at all possible."

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"Our grandmother - on my father's side -"

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Posthumous works thereof -? "Nothing. Which means only that you don't have an afterlife where people can produce nonmagical writing to which your grandmother went, not anything stronger than that, but it's suggestive."

Permalink Mark Unread

Nod. "Okay. We should draw up a list of experiments - of which the most urgent are whether our magic can harm you, since if it can't we have a lot more freedom to do everything else -"

Permalink Mark Unread

"Except for the part where some of it's intractable to actually test."

Permalink Mark Unread

"It's mostly not intractable so much as 'debatably a good idea'."

Permalink Mark Unread

"You were guessing fifty-fifty on one of those curses that can't be cast without malicious intent."

Permalink Mark Unread

"Yeah, I can think of ways to check that but they are all very debatably a good idea."

Permalink Mark Unread

"Do any of them not involve finding someone with malicious intent and inviting them to mind-control me."

Permalink Mark Unread

"Yes, some of them involve altering my beliefs temporarily. Or same with a daeva who would be less bothered by it and less difficult to contain if it worked."

Permalink Mark Unread

"I'm not actually sure how I'd bet on bindings versus mind control curse."

Permalink Mark Unread

"And Limboites have the invulnerability without powers but we have no way to go and chat with them." 

Permalink Mark Unread

"I can send them letters but not a wizard."

Permalink Mark Unread

"There might not be a safe way to check it. Which - is a problem, because it would not surprise me at all if it were attempted."

Permalink Mark Unread

"Is there some standard defense besides 'don't be somebody people want to mind-control'?"

Permalink Mark Unread

"You can fight it off with practice. The problem is that arrangements to practice are hard to come by because of the 'life sentence for casting it on another person' thing."

Permalink Mark Unread

"Seems like a coordination failure."

Permalink Mark Unread

"Little bit. To be fair, right now there are considered no legitimate reasons to learn it, if 'practice' were a legitimate reason to learn it then lots more people would know it."

Permalink Mark Unread

"...it takes a substantial time investment to pick up a spell and you learn to turn kittens into dishes?"

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"Transfiguration is the practice of turning things into other things without, say, a particular kittens-to-dishes spell; if you master the principles which kittens-to-dishes is good practice at, then you can do arbitrary transfigurations. Charms and curses you mostly learn a spell and practice that spell."

Permalink Mark Unread

"Which takes how long?"

Permalink Mark Unread

"Depends on the spell, but days to months, typically."

Permalink Mark Unread

"Okay then."

Permalink Mark Unread

"Much longer than that to rederive them just from knowing they exist, so controls on knowledge of the Imperius probably makes sense."

Permalink Mark Unread

"Where would one pick it up?"

Permalink Mark Unread

"Personal instruction from someone else who knows it, usually."

Permalink Mark Unread

"So all I need to worry about are evil intellectual dynasties which like collecting powerful magic, grand."

Permalink Mark Unread

"Most people go through their whole lives without ever getting Imperiused, but it seems like it's worth being paranoid."

Permalink Mark Unread

"I am not most people."

Permalink Mark Unread

"That too."

Permalink Mark Unread

"We could still make lots of progress if I never actually ventured into your world."

Permalink Mark Unread

"Might in fact be the safest way, yep."

Permalink Mark Unread

"Maybe I could terraform your Mars. I always wanted to terraform Mars."

Permalink Mark Unread

"Um?"

Permalink Mark Unread

"I guess it's not the most efficient use of my time."

Permalink Mark Unread

"I just haven't the faintest idea what terraforming is."

Permalink Mark Unread

"Putting air and water and plants and stuff down on it."

Permalink Mark Unread

"Oooooh. I take it there's also a means to get there with Muggle technology -"

Permalink Mark Unread

"Yeah, sure. Takes a few days, it's far away."

Permalink Mark Unread

"And then, what, set up a civilization there?"

Permalink Mark Unread

"There's arcologies, in my world, because nobody ever let me talk so I couldn't offer to properly terraform it."

Permalink Mark Unread

"That sounds useful and safer than having you on Earth. You can send us care packages."

Permalink Mark Unread

"Yeah. Maybe eventually if you find somebody who could harmlessly cast the Imperius on a daeva they can be ferried by drone to Mars and get a nicely bound fairy to try it on whose summoner is safely elsewhere ready to dismiss the fairy if it goes wrong."

Permalink Mark Unread

"I feel much better about that approach. Also circumvents some of the political problems I'm anticipating if people can immigrate to Mars."

Permalink Mark Unread

"Howso?"

Permalink Mark Unread

"Uh, if the church declares we're evil or something - I don't know much about the Muggle church but Muggles definitely listen to it about that sort of thing - we can still make stuff available to anyone who wants to emigrate, we don't have to overthrow any existing governments or convince them to go along..."

Permalink Mark Unread

"People get more secular but I'm not sure how to speed it up. Starting a polity from the ground up on Mars sounds fun."

Permalink Mark Unread

"Doesn't it? I still want to do some things on Earth because most people won't move but a new polity on Mars would be significantly easier to get right - you probably don't want any wizards in it, that obviates the safety benefits of having you all the way over there..."

Permalink Mark Unread

"Depends on the results of the fairy test, but assuming I can't presume immunity, yes."

Permalink Mark Unread

"You'll still get some, Muggles have wizarding children occasionally. But it should be feasible to ensure they don't have access to any mind control spells."

Permalink Mark Unread

"Should it? How are spells invented?"

Permalink Mark Unread

"Mostly trial and error. If someone causes half your subjects brain damage that'd be a sign they're trying to invent mind control and you might want to stop them."

Permalink Mark Unread

"My -?"

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" - who were you imagining running the place -"

Permalink Mark Unread

"Somebody who hasn't holed any planets lately!"

Permalink Mark Unread

"I don't know any Muggles that well but I can probably find someone halfway competent if you prefer that - or we can look at who distinguished themselves historically -"

Permalink Mark Unread

"I mean, maybe I'm again holding 1802's ethical zeitgeist to too high a standard - goodness knows monarchs committing atrocities on smaller scales have never been that hard to come by - but eventually it won't be 1802 anymore -"

Permalink Mark Unread

"And once Muggle Britain stops handing out death sentences for theft or adultery or blasphemy and conducting the trials in Latin, and once the slave trade is abolished, and once the colonies stop picking wars with the natives because they want their land - then maybe people will want someone else in charge of Mars, yeah."

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"But in the meantime you're among very few people who even thinks any of those things are a problem. If you don't want the job, that's one thing, if you're just worried that eventually we'll grow up far enough to be upset about it and not far enough to agree it was right -"

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"Suppose I could prioritize training a successor."

Permalink Mark Unread

"Sounds good to me."

Permalink Mark Unread

Sigh.

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"Sorry."

Permalink Mark Unread

"I'm trying to imagine sourcing an Elf for it but I don't think that would work particularly well either..."

Permalink Mark Unread

"Oh?"

Permalink Mark Unread

"I like Elves fine but they would have some trouble trying to govern humans. Maybe it'd work after a steep learning curve."

Permalink Mark Unread

"If we can't get immortality sorted a steep learning curve with an Elf might be more convenient than having to figure out not just a successor but a succession procedure."

Permalink Mark Unread

"If summoning can be made to work in your world that might sort immortality on its own. In mine you skip Limbo and become a daeva if you summon while alive."

Permalink Mark Unread

"Huh. - we should probably check that before we make many plans, it affects a lot of them..."

Permalink Mark Unread

"Find some dying people and have them summon, then."

Permalink Mark Unread

"If summoning works at all."

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"Have them try," Cam amends.

Permalink Mark Unread

"Alright. Can you show me what the circle's supposed to look like?"

Permalink Mark Unread

"They vary. Bindings? Intricate enough that if you drop your notes it'd be hard to reproduce?"

Permalink Mark Unread

"I can enchant my notes so no one else can read them, that part shouldn't be a risk. If we do it without bindings we might accidentally get a bunch of people killed, yes?"

Permalink Mark Unread

"Circles can summon random people or specific people; if you wanted an example of the latter I could just make it specify someone I know, although on general principle you should have some basics on there anyway."

Permalink Mark Unread

"I would love to grab someone you know, that sounds easiest by far."

Permalink Mark Unread

"If it's a demon they'll be pleasantly surprised by any binding that doesn't include a gag, even."

Permalink Mark Unread

"You mentioned earlier that people didn't let you talk. I would like to note that that's appalling. No gag."

Permalink Mark Unread

"They think we'll talk them out of their souls." Summoning circle drawn mini on a piece of paper.

Permalink Mark Unread

"Can you?"

Permalink Mark Unread

"Talk them into offering, sometimes, collect, no."

Permalink Mark Unread

"There're spells that supposedly affect souls but no one's sure."

Permalink Mark Unread

"To supposedly do what?"

Permalink Mark Unread

"Uh, one way of attaining immortality purportedly works by ripping your soul in half and putting one half in an object and hiding it, so you don't die unless the object's destroyed. But there are other explanations for how that could work."

Permalink Mark Unread

"Quendi chips are colloquially 'souls' but they work in a supposedly physicalist way."

Permalink Mark Unread

"Those demons can presumably steal just fine, right?"

Permalink Mark Unread

"I assume so but it's possible we couldn't take them back to Hell, same way we can bring hamsters but not people."

Permalink Mark Unread

"-huh. Why's that?"

Permalink Mark Unread

"Unknown. Probably not related to the can't-make-minds thing since that cuts off at roughly 'snail', not 'hamster', but I don't know what it is instead."

Permalink Mark Unread

"It sounds sort of - friendly - like whatever made your magic system did not actually want the daeva realms to be horrible -"

Permalink Mark Unread

"They could've had more of a care for the Limboites."

Permalink Mark Unread

"- I guess without magic that'd be pretty unpleasant, yeah."

Permalink Mark Unread

"We send them care packages."

Permalink Mark Unread

"If you can take magic items back to Hell with you we could send magic plants or automatically refilling goblets or something."

Permalink Mark Unread

"I don't know if I can or not but that'd be great."

Permalink Mark Unread

"Who has the next corcordance with Limbo?"

Permalink Mark Unread

"Heaven, unfortunately, and they don't have functional correspondence with Hell."

Permalink Mark Unread

"I can step into your world and summon one, though, right?"

Permalink Mark Unread

"Given certain assumptions yes."

Permalink Mark Unread

"If I can't, then maybe wizards can't summon and we do need a Muggle to test whether summoning works back home. Possible but less likely summoning only works for people from certain worlds and Elves or your-Earth humans could do summoning even in my world, if I can't summon in the world you've been working in - we need to name these places - and Muggles can't summon back home we should at least try to get an Elf to try it in my world -"

Permalink Mark Unread

"The world with the war in it is called Arda. Let's call my home Earth - uh, Revelation."

Permalink Mark Unread

"For the book in the Bible? Okay."

Permalink Mark Unread

"At one remove. The existence of daeva becoming common knowledge was called that."

Permalink Mark Unread

"When did that happen?"

Permalink Mark Unread

"March 2007."

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Raised eyebrow.

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Permalink Mark Unread

"Daeva became public knowledge? Just like that?"

Permalink Mark Unread

"Yes everyone woke up one morning surprisingly well-informed it was amazing."

Permalink Mark Unread

"When I first worked out how long it'd take me to repeal the Statute I was quite satisfied at the thought of accomplishing that at 23."

Permalink Mark Unread

Sigh. "I did literally find a book on summoning in an abandoned house by sheer luck."

Permalink Mark Unread

"Is gloating considered unseemly by 2179 or something because I think you should be doing more of it."

Permalink Mark Unread

"I was anonymous for safety, which did not work, and have stayed that way because there was no productive way to deanonymize afterwards and no reason to unproductively do so, and now I feel like it would come off as trying to compensate for the thing where I holed a planet so I'm just privately deriving some comfort from being net positive in lives saved."

Permalink Mark Unread

"It sounds like the Arda decision was that all by itself. But - well, congratulations anyway, I would personally be very annoyed about having to do the most important things anyone had ever done anonymously."

Permalink Mark Unread

"Thanks."

Permalink Mark Unread

"Should we check if summoning works now, or did you want to read the rest of the magic books first?"

Permalink Mark Unread

"Whichever."

Permalink Mark Unread

"I kind of want to know so I can meaningfully start planning."

Permalink Mark Unread

"Sure. I will be happy to make most of a circle for you. How conspicuously weird looking is your hallway..."

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"Not weird, I don't think." He opens the door. 

 

It is obviously the inside of a large and old stone building, but it could easily be a museum or cathedral or just a fancy estate. Except for the fact that the people in the portraits move and gawk curiously at them.

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"The paintings," Cam observes neutrally.

Permalink Mark Unread

" - oh, right. In that case we might as well go all the way off-grounds, reduce the potential for interference - Minor, will you hold the door -"

 

Minor scoots doorward without looking up from his book.

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"I am reluctant to go away from the door while there are Elves I have not put back."

Permalink Mark Unread

"Fair. I can do it myself if you give me notes -"

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"...You're also dressed funny."

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"...how do people in 2179 dress?"

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Cam hands him an outfit.

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"Uh, Bar, is there somewhere I can change -"

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You may rent a room, or the restroom is available to your right.

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"I will probably eventually get a room, we're going to have lots to do - Cam, do you mind paying for it, I might want to spend my money on projects and counterfeit won't do for those -"

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"Yeah, no problem." He drops a sack on Bar. It clinks, then vanishes. She provides a key and a napkin reading Room 5688.

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And after some bewilderment at pants he comes downstairs looking not especially remarkable for 2179. "You will also have to tell me what to say, I can copy your mannerisms and maybe your accent if mine're suspect but I don't know what the conventional requests would be -"

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"Don't disguise your accent, she'll get your dialect anyway and might notice if you aren't using it. It's not that far off. Tell her you got her name off Davidson's Demons List, take this," he hands him a little chip, "don't show it to her in advance or indicate that it's on your person, tell her you've got a song you guarantee isn't in circulation and you want a - pick something she could reasonably make you?"

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"- do books even still exist - magic things probably won't go -"

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"Magic things won't go. Books are not unheard of and that's actually even a reasonable thing to ask for since physical books are kind of niche in 2179. It'd have to be something you'd have a plausible reason to want in book form even if you assume you can get the contents trivially off the extranet though."

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"If I asked for, like, a replica of the throne room of King George the III, because I am a historical enthusiast - that'd also let us tell whether conjuring makes things from your world or from mine by default, because ours has a point of contact with the wizarding minister -"

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"Yes, that works. Specify a scale and how you want it boxed or whatever, I don't think she'd hurt you even sans binding but she might think it was funny to make it full size in the middle of whatever nowhere you use."

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"Will do. What's the song?"

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"One of mine. It's not as good a find as one of your alt's next eldest brother's but I can't guarantee those aren't already all over Hell."

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"Oh, you compose? That's lovely! Are people honest with demons out of inherent decency or is the deal invalid if, say, I claimed to have a song not in circulation and was wrong -"

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"Violin," says Cam, "which is funny for high-context reasons. The deal is invalid if you overstate your confidence, you wouldn't be able to dismiss her."

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"Useful. Okay. I'll be back in twenty minutes, I should think."

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Nod. "Don't say anything that sounds agreementy till you've got it outlined how you like."

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"Got it. Thank you." - and out of Hogwarts, calling his broomstick to meet him in a courtyard, off the grounds, a Apparition-hop further away to somewhere in anonymous Scotland.

 

He draws a circle.

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There is a delay, and a demon appears. She has the wings (red) but no tail; she's darker than Miranda but her hair matches the wings and her eyes are blue. "Ooh," she comments experimentally, peering at the circle.

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"Hi, I'm Timothy!"

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"Charmed. What can I do for you, Timothy?"

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"Scale model of King George the III's throne room in 1801, a cubit across, in some kind of box I can carry? I have a song that I guarantee has not been disseminated anywhere."

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"A cubit," she giggles. "Recording or sheet music?"

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"Recording." 

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"Damn. Well, I'll take it anyhow."

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"If I need more historical scale models of things I'll get you sheet music. Thank you."

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That seems to suffice, since she makes him a box and holds out her hand.

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"It's on a chip in my pocket."

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"Oh, fine. I do wash my hands, you know."

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"I didn't intend to give offense, I just forget which pocket." Pants are so confusing. 

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"I will go through the contents of your pants in the privacy of my own home, then." Smirk.

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He is from 2179 and who knows maybe that's a totally reasonable thing to say in 2179 in which case he is fairly miscalibrated on how to hit on Cam - 

- not really the time - 

- "nice meeting you." And she can go home. 

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And she is gone.

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He waves his wand and sweeps the circle away and flies back. 

 

Minor is leaning against the door reading.

 

"Works fine. Which invites the question of how no one ever stumbled on it."

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"No idea. I suppose the magic system could be outright contagious."

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"Well. We can plan around summoning working - we probably can't announce it like you did, between most people being illiterate and the mind-control concerns being yet untested..."

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"Right. The wings are not necessarily obligatory, incidentally, it's possible for daeva to go stealth if we want - easiest for angels."

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"So if mind control doesn't work, we find and screen some daeva who would like to bring 1802 up to modernity and end the slave trade and so on, and they do so incognito. If mind control does work and in particular if it gets around bindings it is probably safer not to have daeva and wizards on the same planet."

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"Which gets harder as space travel gets more accessible. Can cut that off with bindings for daeva, harder to bring your world up to the space age without any spacefaring..."

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"You could conjure for wands on outgoing spaceflights. But it'd definitely require ongoing maintenance - might in fact just be better to train people to throw off the Imperius -"

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"With what maliciously-intending caster, that seems like a serious limitation."

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"- there're ways to make it work, they're just - dubious. Maybe with more thought I could come up with less dubious ones."

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"What are your dubious ideas?"

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" - if you're in Slytherin and determined to take over the world someday and towards that end to at least dabble in dark magic far enough to handle it should it come up later, it is not that hard to find someone who'll help teach you to throw it off. The usual arrangement is something like 'I'll take it off in four hours; if you manage to throw it off before then, good for you, but if you don't, no complaining -"

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"Ah-huh."

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"Bet we can do better."

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"That would be ideal, yes, even passing for human I probably should not spend four hours like that, just in case, even if I managed not to make any stuff my indestructibility is quite passive, same goes for other more adventurously inclined daeva..."

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"And might come up, yeah. I was not suggesting you try it."

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"That does put a slightly encouraging bound on 'malicious inclination', though, if I catch the implications right."

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"Yeah. You can have training that is within parameters agreed-upon in advance."

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"But I assume the parameters can't be 'caster makes trainee do their laundry'?"

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"You could probably cast it intending not to do worse than that, but I doubt you'd get anywhere having explicitly agreed in advance not to do worse than that."

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"How does this interact with the trainee having well-grounded expectations about what might be intended without explicit agreement?"

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"No idea. I have a very small sample size here."

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"Fair enough."

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"And my sample somehow fails to contain anyone who wasn't terrified. But again, the only people currently doing this are ones willing to risk being tortured to death -"

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"Which is rather terrifying - the indestructibility is suppressible -"

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"And there's a different Unforgivable that might or might not interact with it at all."

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"Two of them, even, although the one that just kills you - well, I guess we could try to summon somebody out of the Poppy Gardens, write the caretakers and see if they'll wake someone up - occasionally you get a suicidal daeva, some do-gooders keep them asleep."

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"- oh, of course that'd be a thing - if the other two don't work we can assume that one doesn't either, if they do then maybe we can ask -"

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"Hard to find somebody who knows the spell and con them into thinking the Poppy Garden sleeper wants to live?"

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"Yeah, most people wouldn't commit a serious crime to murder a random innocent - I could arrange it but it'd be an awful lot of orchestration."

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"We could maybe find a Poppy Garden sleeper who is willing to pose as a nonrandom or a noninnocent."

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"That'd make it easier. - you have permission to manipulate me in ways useful for trials of spells that require a certain state of information to cast, incidentally, but I'm hard to lie to -"

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"Yeah, I don't really expect to be able to pull it off, I have a reasonable deadpan and you're very low context and it still sounds really hard."

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"I can test the intent thing somewhat systematically by getting someone's permission to try and then checking how malicious my intent in fact needs to be to successfully cast the spell, but I haven't done that yet because, well, Azkaban."

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"It would probably be hard to catch you here."

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"If I expect someone to stop me from following through I bet that throws things off, and I don't know how our host feels about me mind-controlling people into doing themselves or their loved ones serious injury."

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"Bar?"

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Security will interfere with any attempt to do such things within the main bar area.

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"In my room, though?"

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Security does not cover private rooms or the back yard.

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"Father, while we're out of the Ministry's jurisdiction want to learn to throw off the Imperius -"

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"Maybe later," he says distractedly. "You should ask one of your brothers, for the experiment -"

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"Can't summon enough malicious intent, I tried teaching Michael."

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"Should I be insulted?"

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"You should probably be insulted if it turns out my subconscious is as protective of you as of my little brothers."

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"You should try your grandfather's grandchildren by his second wife."

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"Fredrick'd do it."

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Sigh. "Maybe Miranda'd do it, I can ask her -"

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"Are you going to hurt her -"

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"We are trying to determine whether it can be done without hurting people much but the answer might be 'nope'."

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"I'll do it -"

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He makes a strangled sort of sigh.

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"Who's Miranda?"

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"A friend of Minor's in my House who picked up Occlumency astonishingly quickly and would probably get this down pretty fast, too. And find the rest of what we're doing very intriguing though I don't know how narrow we want to keep that for the time being."

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"Occlumency's -?"

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"Some wizards can read minds; it's a rare skill but it exists and Occlumency's the counter."

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"I assume I can't learn that either?"

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"I've never heard of a Muggle learning it and there're things like potions where you'd think Muggles could do them but they can't, but there aren't any magic steps per se. The workbook I used to pick it up was called The Mental Arts: Occlumencee - misspelled - if you wanted to have a try though then we're back to testing."

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"How's it misspelled?"

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He spells it.

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Cam gets himself a copy.

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"You actually remind me of Miranda a lot, I'd wonder if she was a distant ancestor but she's black."

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"If she was distant enough and the genetics shook out right wouldn't necessarily be able to tell."

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"It is in fact 1802, that's probably distant enough. Of course it's also distant enough that 'genetics' as an explanation for the similarity in mannerisms is a bit implausible."

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"Quite."

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"You have good reason to not want to be around a lot of wizards, even if Miranda's barely thirteen and definitely doesn't know any Unforgivables. How do you want to handle Milliways traffic?"

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"I'll probably get my own room. Although it's been quiet so far."

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"I was mostly thinking of people I might invite for out-of-jurisdiction testing, not people from yet other worlds. Though that'd be cool."

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"What do you mean by how do I want to handle it, then?"

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"Would you like to refrain from being present, would you like to be present but keep most of your capabilities secret for your safety, would you like to keep it to people who definitely couldn't hurt you - or people I trust, if you happen to trust my people-trusting that far..."

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"I trust your people-trusting pretty far, albeit mostly for secondhand reasons. I should probably default to not being present if I happen to be irrelevant, but when I'm relevant my capabilities will not make very convenient secrets... Bar, how far should I trust Security?"

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Security reacts very quickly and is at any given time capable of subduing persons in the establishment, although they cannot guarantee a specific duration of maximum rule violation. Read-only telepathy does not violate bar rules.

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"Why not?"

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It is the default or only communication method of some patrons.

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"I won't invite anyone who has Legilimency in. ...well, except here I am, but I promise I have never used it except to check peoples' Occlumency."

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"- you've picked up more Dark Arts than I realized, I apologize for calling you incurious."

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"I haven't picked up any dark arts. I've gotten a working familiarity with a lot of usable-for-evil ones."

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"Does 'Dark Art' have a technical definition?"

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"Mostly means 'spells without practical uses other than harm' but it's not formal."

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"Any spell is intellectually interesting so intellectual interest doesn't count. It's admittedly pretty subjective but if you come of age a Legilimens and knowing the Unforgivables and I'm presuming here there are also things he hasn't admitted to in two hours of casual conversation - that meets common usage - uh ,and world conquest is considered a sort of Dark ambition though that's mostly just because the people who try it keep being evil -"

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"The world is really badly run. If it were nicer I bet I'd only be a tiny bit tempted to rule it."

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"How much nicer?"

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"...really, really nice, admittedly."

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Snort. "I'm not sure why world conquest is so popular among the evil."

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"With wizards I think part of the problem is that if you're insufficiently paranoid you never get anywhere and if you're sufficiently paranoid you know lots and lots of really evil magic and might be tempted to make exceptions on the not using it."

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"That'd be a fairly satisfying explanation if it were only wizards we were explaining."

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"I haven't actually paid much attention to Muggle would-be rulers of the world, do they actually suck more than, like, the typical person?"

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"Possibly only insofar as they acquire opportunity, I suppose."

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"Most people are kind of terrible. - oh, your demon acquaintance laughed at me for suggesting a model size in cubits, the world I take it having picked different units of measure, and I didn't actually look whether it was our or Revelation's -"

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"She was expecting meters - I would've warned you to go metric if you were American but I confess cubits did not occur to me, they are sufficiently obscure to qualify as a Bible reference even without further clues because one only hears about them for Ark reasons."

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"I have never heard of a meter."

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"One ten-millionth the distance between the equator and the North Pole. The French came up with it. We use that?"

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"I still have no idea how far that is."

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He makes an effort to gesture at approximately the right length without letting go of his book. "They came up with it a couple years ago, I remember reading something about it."

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"Everybody uses that, the United States held out with feet and miles and whatnot till well after my death but eventually standardized, you guys switched earlier than that."

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"Well. Timothy's going to take over the world so he can pick the units and he doesn't have to pick French ones."

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"It'd be convenient to be able to trade with Revelation, though. And copy their stuff without converting units."

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"The argument for metric is everything is powers of ten and there are convenient equivalencies like a cubic centimeter being a milliliter. The argument for Imperial - though it did not in my lifetime include cubits - is that it's better for measurements of human-scale things like the weather in places people live or human heights."

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"You can pick, kiddo."

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"That's no fair, if it actually matters I can't just be prejudiced."

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"Yeah, exactly."

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"Something wrong with France?"

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"Well, it's kind of in the middle of a horribly bloody civil war, there's that. And also my grandfather's second wife is from there but it is unfair to blame the country for her, if you think about it they really got rid of her as fast as they could."

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"So that matches, does it."

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"The Elves have - I thought Elves don't die."

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"Oh, let's see, do I have notes on the -" Rummage rummage. "They do if they keep yelling at the god of the dead for reembodying them."

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"Ah."

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"My mother didn't want to die."

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"No one's saying she did, the Elf versions are obviously a lot of kinds of different -"

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Look how unopinionated this demon is.

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He goes back to his book.

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"...the Elf version of Minor does outgrow the grudge, I hope?"

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"Never actually discussed it with him, somehow."

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"Right, I suppose you were all busy with far more important stuff."

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"I had some downtime, mostly while flying to and fro, but Curufinwë was generally working on technical problems in a stationary sort of way."

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"I really wanna meet him."

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"Unfortunately even if I open the door for you traveling by lightleaper takes five days to get where he is."

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"That's not that long. And I bet he could help us figure out the modernization stuff so we can get the Philosopher's Stone faster."

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"Someone'd have to be holding the door, though."

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"I'm sure at some point it'll be worth coming up with a rotation of door-holders and making the trip but when we have a more complete proposal in mind and know who to steal away, I think."

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"I guess I don't wanna meet him while I still don't know anything and he'll think I'm stupid."

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"We might end up wanting to kind of steal a bunch of people. Definitely worth waiting."

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"...Do avoid mentioning to other demons that Quendi can be resurrected, it'd be a mess. But the same way that's doable, they could also be duplicated if they so desired."

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"Be a - ohhhhhh. Yeah, noted, though at some point it'll be obvious there're two Earths. - I am not at all sure I was convincingly from 2179 -" and he recounts the conversation -

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"...she will think you are weird and if she notices I wrote the song she may ask me about you but I don't expect her to be lastingly curious, let alone suspicious. Also I did not expect her to hit on you but I'm not sure a summoner's ever let her talk before so I didn't have great data on that."

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"That is what she was doing? I was not sure if I was missing something important about pants - pants are confusing -"

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"Nah that was pretty unambiguous. Not seriously, she would have been surprised if you'd run with it, but that is the structure of the thing she was doing."

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"...okay."

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"He's hopeless with girls."

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"No one can have everything."

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Oh look how few opinions Cam has.

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And whose throne room is in the model? 

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Revelation's, but that could be because of where she thought she was.

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"Yeah - can you get ours if you're going for it?"

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Cam makes an attempt - "This it?" It is.

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"So that'd explain previous conjuring only pulling from the home dimension."

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Nod.

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"If there're really untold numbers of universes, and the magic's somehow contagious...we're not going to have enough demons."

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"If dead summoners become daeva anywhere we might be fine."

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"That's the next thing to check, I guess, go to London and find some dying people..."

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"Discreet ones, unless we want all Hell knowing as soon as one dies all about the other Earth."

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"That might be a little challenging, I have no idea how to assess the discretion of someone on their deathbed and no one I know is currently dying."

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"We could try finding people who seem likely to be angels or fairies instead but I'm not confident in my guess of how that happens and it'd only slow it down anyway."

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"If we've got a solution to death I'm not okay with keeping it secret anyway, so if the first one worked there'd be a thousand more the next day. Might have to abandon discretion."

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"This also means there will be daeva on the same planet as wizards, even if it's somehow only for immortality and nobody uses them for anything else."

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"Yeah, I realize. And you can't even roll it out just among Muggles because every wizarding government will investigate something that looks a lot like teaching Muggles magic."

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"So the 'separate planets' security measure is a no, I suppose, which makes it a bit more urgent to test resistance to mind control or at least how it interacts with bindings."

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"Yeah. Do you have a friend who'd be willing to be a test subject there?"

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"Doesn't come up as a topic of conversation very often. I have guesses but only that."

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"Why don't I check on humans whether I can test the Imperius under conditions that are not utterly horrible, and then we can ask for interested daeva test subjects."

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"Okay."

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He races through the hallways. People are dying, and now it's potentially within his control and so very very distracting. She'll probably be in the library -

 

"Miranda?"

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There she is. "Hi!"

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Every silencing spell he knows and he switches to Igbo. "I have just stumbled on an opportunity that is really important - might, among other things, end death - but we need a fair bit of information about the interaction of two different magic systems to be sure it's safe. Luckily the opportunity also involves the ability to travel outside the jurisdiction of the Ministry.

 

The opportunity doesn't at all depend on your answer to this, and I'll find things for you to do either way, but - do you want to learn how to throw off the Imperius and are you willing to participate in experiments into how much senblance of consent is compatible with casting it."

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"- you don't think my being an Occlumens will throw off the results -?"

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"I am optimistic it will make you unusually good at it and therefore the experiments unusually not horrible, I'm guessing I could tell the difference between 'cast it and you brushed me off' from 'that isn't evil enough intent to cast it in the first place'."

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"I'll try it at least once."

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Nod. "Come with me - you won't be gone long, we can stop time once we're there."

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"Okay." She follows him as briskly as she is able, scribbling a note as she goes. It paper-airplanes away.

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Then they will reach Minor sitting at the door of Milliways. 

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"I said you should pick someone else."

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"Yeah, but you had bad reasons. Close the door -"

It closes. 

"Okay. Sorry for the urgency. Now that death might be fixable I find the fact I'm not going around to get literally everyone who's dying - stressful. You can have as long as you want now."

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"Why did you want him to pick someone else?" Miranda asks Minor. "Are there other Occlumenses who can throw off Veritaserum around?"

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"It's the Imperius, throwing off Veritaserum's not anywhere near enough - did you know he even knew it -"

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"No but I'm glad he told me he did instead of not that if he was going to know it anyway!"

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He sits down. "This is Milliways. It is an interdimensional bar; the door connects up to different worlds, sometimes. Some of those worlds are ahead of us in history and technology. You can buy books from the year 2000 and the year 2150 and so on from the bar; she can also introduce herself. Like I said, you can take as long as you want to think about it now the door's closed. Or ask questions or whatever -"

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"What does the Imperius Curse have to do with ending death?"

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"I learned about a new form of magic, while I was here. It's called summoning; we should change the name of the Summoning Charm to minimize ambiguity. But anyway. There are three realms called daeva realms; they're known as Heaven, Hell, and Fairyland, though I'm going to fight really hard to get them known as something else in our world. Hell is populated by demons who also need a name change for Muggle relations reasons. They're people, indestructible, who can make arbitrary material objects. 

- by 2100 lots of very scary stuff has been invented or discovered, and the ability to make arbitrary material objects fairly trivially permits you to destroy the world.

Heaven is populated by angels, who can change any thing into any other thing, and Fairyland of course by fairies, who can move themselves or other things with a lot of speed and precision. None of these have any stamina limits or usage limits.

Daeva can be summoned; people on worlds that have discovered this summon them under strict constraints to trade them favors. And anyone who has summoned a daeva becomes one if they die."

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"You could call me an 'apsel' if you don't like 'demon'," Cam says.

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"...and you need to test the Imperius but not actually on a daeva..."

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"Might be that I can't cast it for research purposes at all; conventional wisdom is that one can't. Might be that I can, if I am in fact intending to be some level of awful. - I'm pretty sure you can stop me, it took me an hour and a half the first time but you picked up Occlumency faster than I did.

Might be that the requisite sort of intent is bad enough I am not willing to try it on someone who I don't expect will be able to throw it off."

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"Okay. If you can't cast it for research purposes what's the plan?"

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"Uh, candidate plans include 'involve someone who is misinformed in a direction that'd enable them to do it', 'involve someone better at it than I am', and 'cast it on people without consent -' the threshold's a lot lower there, and I know one or two people who would agree afterwards it'd been the right thing to do and also still feel safe around me..."

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"What's it like?"

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"Pleasant. Vaguely dissociative."

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"It'd probably make it a worse test if you outline what'll happen if I don't throw you off?"

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"I'm going to start by trying while intending not to do much of anything, but I don't expect that to go through, and it's very possible it'll go through only at intent to do something you would not be okay with. You can place as many constraints as you'd like on what can happen but that makes it likelier it just doesn't go through."

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"How about you can do whatever as long as you do it in front of Minor."

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"We can try that."

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"That's a little better."

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"All right. We can head upstairs whenever you're ready, then, Miranda."

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"Why upstairs?"

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"There's a rule against mind-control in the main bar area."

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"That is... sensible."

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"There is not a rule against mindreading. I don't know if Occlumency protects against extradimensional flavors of mindreading but I thought you'd want to know."

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"...yeah, thanks."

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He picks up his 2179 reading and waits for her to make a move upstairs.

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Miranda goes and quizzes the bar for a bit and then takes a deep breath and goes stairward.

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Stairward. "Sorry. This is nicer than the way I picked it up."

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"Yeah but you were doing it just because you were curious."

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"I was assuming it was because it's the sort of skill you need if you're going to do anything high profile."

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"Yep."

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"How far up are we going?"

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"Fifth floor."

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Climb climb.

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Here is his room. It is pretty plain. It has the weird 2179 clothes folded neatly on a chair.

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"What are those?"

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"What people wear in the future, apparently. I summoned a demon to test if it worked and Cam suggested I not make it apparent that I am a wizard from 1802. I apparently pass as a very eccentric and oblivious citizen of the future."

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"The demon propositioned him."

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"'hit on me', I think is the 2179 phrasing."

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"Is that how you tell that you passed?"

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"No, I recited the whole conversation to Cam and he said it wouldn't leave suspicion - she also didn't seem suspicious, but I'm less confident in my read on demons from the future."

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"Imperio."

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"- I thought you were going to warn her -"

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"I've been trying configuration of intentions in my head for the last few minutes - wouldn't have worked -"

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He would like her to turn around and tell Minor "it's okay, didn't work - ugh, what an unpleasant feeling, though -"

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That doesn't seem like something she decided to do...

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Yes, she did, she decided to do that, she wants to do that.

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...why did she decide she wanted to do that? She can't reconstruct the reasoning. She would need a reason to lie to Minor, definitely.

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It's such a lovely idea. It's such a tempting idea. She definitely wants to do that and she definitely decided to do it.

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Acting on tempting impulses while under the influence of the Imperius Curse seems like not exactly the ohhhhh she sees what's going on here she tilts her head quizzically and draws a wand and Disarms Timothy. (Catching the wand is hopeless, of course.)

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He's startled for half a second and then - "nice!"

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"Thanks," she snorts.

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"Better now than - under pretty much literally any other set of circumstances."

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"Yeah. That was weird."

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...she goes and gets his wand and gives it back.

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"Thank you. It's typical to get better with practice but I'm not sure you need it."

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"How fast do people get?"

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"I have heard of people getting pretty nearly instantaneous but not witnessed faster than 'shakes off first substantive command' myself."

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"How long did it actually take, I'm not sure I had a great sense of time."

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"Forty-five, fifty seconds? But if you just want someone out of action for that long there are - less 'unforgivable curse' ways to do it, and you didn't do anything."

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"What'd you try to make her do?"

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"I'd actually rather not say, I've found a very-nearly-ethical way of training people to throw off the Imperius and I bet it doesn't work if they know what it entails."

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"It fits the criterion of a thing I definitely would not have done without being inherently horrifying," Miranda tells Minor.

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"...okay."

 

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"Found a test that's something resembling ethically acceptable!" he tells Cam when they get down. "Miranda did move to disable me as soon as she broke it off, which would be a problem if Miranda were a daeva and not especially concerned with my welfare."

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"I promise not to disintegrate you," Cam says.

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"I appreciate it tremendously. Want to come learn to throw off the Imperius and/or test whether it works for you at all?"

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"Sure."

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"Parameters of things that can happen? Miranda wanted my little brother present -"

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"I don't have any school chums handy to supervise. I will assume you would consider it a disaster if I decided I'd rather wait around in the bar for fifty years waiting for somebody else with a Mars I can terraform to come along instead of helping you."

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"That would be terrible. Also I'm not actually evil." Upstairs.

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"I know." Follow follow.

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And if before they've reached the fifth landing he murmurs "Imperio" and continues up the stairs like nothing happened, and wants Cam to do the same?

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- Cam startles and tumbles down the entire flight of stairs, making an undignified noise.

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- he can soften the landing slightly - "sorry, are you okay?"

 

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"I'm indestructible," says Cam, as a shallow split in his lip knits together good as new. "I assume falling down the stairs doesn't count as throwing it off."

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"Nope but it suggests it does affect you, so we can't just go give my world daeva. Damn it."

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"It's possible it doesn't affect us very much, in the same way I can be scratched but not very deeply, but it doesn't take long to make dangerous things..."

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"If you want to check that we can find some steady ground and test it. I actually expect a popular application would be making daeva agree to deals - but you can just then refuse to follow through on your end, right?"

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"Yeah, the function of a deal is to make some bindings relax if they specify that they only apply outside the scope of a deal, and summoners can't dismiss us without paying for a completed task but can if the task is incomplete."

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"Could you, like, demand 200 of something and dismiss without payment once you have 199 -"

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"I mean, yes, but dismissal takes a minute so you'd have to time it a bit carefully to avoid the 200th thing appearing and the demon being authorized to shake you down for whatever."

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"What does 'authorized to shake you down' look like -" climbing the stairs again -

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Follow follow. "If it looks like you're not going to pay up, bindings will not stop the daeva from attempting to increase the chance that you pay up or negotiate an acceptable alternative. Can't escalate instantly - I used to hope somebody would stiff me because the gag would have been the first thing to go - and can't do unrelated things that the bindings do not otherwise allow."

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"That'd be terrifying as a summoner.

 

- so if you can take Arda souls back, and someone agreed to that -"

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"That probably wouldn't actually work for the reason that the chip can't be removed without killing the body, which probably does instant dismissal. But in theory yeah. It wouldn't oblige the daeva to actually take it though, I have in fact just stared at summoners who volunteered stuff I didn't want until they got the picture and renegotiated because if I'd turned down the deal they'd just try again."

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" - with a demon more inclined to accept? Why would that be bad?"

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"Uh, demons are hard to pay. Since we can make whatever we want. And are traditionally paid in intangibles. And not everybody composes music."

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He is very briefly tempted to say 'so how much do I owe you for Mars?' but this is not discernible even a little bit from his face.

 

"Oh, and you can't talk so you can't just say 'no, it's okay, I'll put dinner on the table for free, honestly -"

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"The case I was thinking of was actually 'fill up the warehouse of a charity' but yes."

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"1802 probably has - a lot more desperate people than 2179."

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"Yeah."

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"Don't know what to do about that. Has anyone tried an incentive system - like, demons, if you get a chance to be an asshole, and you decline to be an asshole, come show us the recording and we'll give you magic items..."

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"It's easy to fake recordings in the future - and we have obviously not tried any magic item based incentives - and also if we are gagged we can't point out all the opportunities to be an asshole, I've more than once been unsafely summoned in such a way that to indicate that I would have had to actually hurt somebody."

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"Can't conjuring also detect fake recordings? And - huh. That's with a mostly literate population? Because people who aren't are going to make even more mistakes - what kind are common -"

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"Conjuring can tell the difference between real and illusion sound and it can distinguish authorship but it is not to my knowledge possible to use it for detecting video editing. And that is with a nearly universally literate population but being able to read does not actually make people smart or careful. They misspell things, or write their circles in Latin despite not actually knowing Latin and get all the grammar tangled up, or leave things out because the dependency clauses are too complicated for them and they think they'll be safer with something simpler just because the loopholes don't occur to them."

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"What share of daeva take advantage of mistakes?"

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"Not very many. The horror stories are mostly about daeva being allowed to talk and seeming very friendly and getting their bindings snapped and then doing whatever - taking advantage of a mistake is more opportunistic than most people will take lots of summons to enable."

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Oh look it's his room. "Before we roll out summoning I should probably be acquainted with all of these horror stories, is there a book?"

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"There's a few. In either direction, people have been known to summon daeva and then not give them a task and keep 'em in zoos, sufficiently bound daeva are pretty helpless."

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"Why are people so terrible?"

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"Poor incentives and a mental architecture designed for survival in small zero-tech tribes in Africa."

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"That is the most reasonable and kind answer I've ever gotten to that question." He unlocks his door. "Do you want your 2179 clothes back, I was assuming not because you're a demon but I haven't anything to do with them."

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"I haven't anything to do with them either, I haven't updated my limited fashion sense since I died and no longer wear shirts."

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He had noticed. 

"Okay. Imperio."

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He would like Cam to go downstairs with him and tell everyone that daeva are not vulnerable to the Imperius, that it doesn't seem to affect them at all -

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Downstairs. Five flights. Walk walk walk.

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It's such a pleasant floaty feeling, isn't it. Minor has buried himself in his book again and Miranda is interrogating the bar. 


Cam is going to tell them that everything's fine, that it didn't work...

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- he's not going to be very convincing if his eye keeps twitching like that -

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- Cam just doesn't need to actively contradict him, Cam has been very good about not having opinions, Cam can keep not having opinions.

"Good news, looks like daeva indestructibility extends to mental effects - either that or I'm not powerful enough but I don't think that was the problem, it felt like I did it fine and it just glanced off."

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"Bullshit."

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"Yes," he agrees, putting his wand away. "Which is super inconvenient - nicely done, by the way, that was fast and I don't think it was for indestructibility-related reasons at all..."

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"Yeah. Indestructibility's passive, that - wasn't."

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"Like trying to make the pieces of your own head click and slowly noticing they're all bent funny," he agrees. "I have heard it analogized to realizing you're dreaming. Gets easier with practice."

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"Seems like it might, yeah."

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"I thought it was sort of like getting out of bed in the morning when it's really cold and you're still tired."

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"When it won't get me jailed we can write a book on it." And to Cam - "you okay?"

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"Yeah."

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"Let me know if you ever want to practice more, get it shorter -"

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"I don't think so."

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"Okay. So we should still check if summoners who die in my world become daeva but even if they can rollout is going to be complicated - even lots of wizards who don't know any Unforgivables will try to Confund their way into better deals, probably - so secret experiment on discreet dying people in London and then we have to figure something out -"

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"I might be able to develop some kind of protection against mind control but there's no obvious avenue to start down -"

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"Occlumency doesn't constitute one?"

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"It's mental exercises, not something you could cast on a little doodad."

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"Timothy, are you sure you can't do it to me -"

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"I couldn't get it with Michael and it would surprise me if you were easier. It's - even without intending anything horrible the mental posture is still one it's hard to adopt towards my little brothers."

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"What does it feel like?"

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"Casting it or being under it?"

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"Either."

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"No comment."

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"It was... sort of trying to be pleasant? Maybe it is pleasant for some people, I dunno, I thought it was trying too hard."

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"It's floaty. Peaceful. I would imagine it'd be very popular if it weren't for the malicious intent part."

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"Well, we have sixty percent of a workaround, I might in fact start offering lessons."

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"Because that wouldn't be suspicious at all, people going to be Imperiused and then popping out refusing to say what you made them do but insisting they're satisfied customers."

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"No one could passively maintain dozens of them at once. I'm not even sure I could handle two but I have very little practice at the spell."

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"No, if I saw that happening and I didn't know any better I'd think you were casting some variant on the spell, or something else altogether."

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"You could just tamper with peoples' memories and not advertise it as the most stigmatized activity ever."

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"Yes, obviously it would have to be more complicated somehow, but still."

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"The problem is that the intersection of 'people whose reasonableness I trust' and 'people who I can think the right way about' is pretty small."

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"How do you have to think?"

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"I would like to assume total control of this person, their thoughts and desires and actions, and use that to harm them, and keep them that way -"

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Twitch.

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"I have never and will never use it without consent."

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"I believe you but that's kinda..."

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"I know."

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"I could probably cast it but I don't know if I could cast it on people I liked."

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"I don't have that problem, I can't get myself into the mental state unless it'd be okay if they didn't like me afterwards."

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"Huh."

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"I have a lot of control over how I feel towards people. But it's hard to put myself in certain mindsets if I feel like the justified reaction would be not trusting me and I couldn't actually live with that."

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(Geez, what happened to the sad demon.)

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"Anyway, Miranda, want to read about 2179 and then help me figure out how to fix up the world? Minor and my father are working on the technical aspect."

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"I have actually been trying to get Bar to find a world with our magic system where it is later."

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"...oooooooooh."

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"Bar is having some trouble with it."

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There is no way for me to directly verify common magic systems, only published works, which may match for a considerable time before diverging due to later discoveries.

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"So, like, there are worlds that have On the Fundamental Principles of Transfiguration word-for-word the same as ours but then it turns out their magic system is different, later?"

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Yes.

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"Bizarre. Okay. 

 

...trying to think of a safe way to let everyone summon..."

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"Do they have to know they're doing it?"

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"No. But they do have to voluntarily dismiss the daeva, or die. Since the idea is death insurance we could just have a lot of daeva long-term in your world but that sounds complicated to say the least."

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"We should verify that people who die in our world do become daeva if they summon before we expend too many resources assuming that's the case."

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"I can go to London and just find dying people, anyone have a better idea?"

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"How would you find them?"

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"Hospitals?"

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"I know some Muggles and some of them are old."

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"That'd be significantly easier - though we probably want 'imminently dying' if possible -"

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"How do you know Muggles?"

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"Mum thinks they're cute. Some of them might be sick, I can ask, but it's hard to tell for sure if they're definitely going to die."

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"If we get a bunch we'll probably have an answer within a year or so, and we can do work that doesn't attract attention until then."

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"I can find maybe twenty, I'm not sure that's enough..."

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"I know a couple Muggle-born students who might be able to suggest some more."

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"Yeah, that would add up if we got enough of those."

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"We need someone to stay here at the door and preferably someone else staying in the bar so if the one at the door slips we don't lose everything. And it's - upsetting how many people will die before we have come up with a way to safely distribute summoning - maybe we could convince all wizards to move to Mars -"

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"You cannot convince all wizards to move to Mars."

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"If anyone could it'd be me and I have so so much to bribe them with."

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"You could maybe convince most wizards to move to Mars."

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"Wasn't I going to rule Mars? Me and my apparent non-immunity to mind control?"

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"Hey how come he gets Mars?"

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"Requires terraforming, which is putting plants and air and things, and generally a bunch of things demon powers are useful for. For a time he was considering training a successor; you could apply for the position? And I do not actually want to put all wizards on Mars but especially if you can learn Occlumency you'll be safe enough."

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"Time frame on that?"

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"It took me like a year and a half and I was doing a lot of other things."

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"So not a huge deal in a time pausing bar, okay."

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"Yeah, exactly."

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"I was faster but I was very motivated."

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"I'd have recommended you as a Mars-ruler-in-waiting, Miranda, but the whole point of our Mars plans was to have all the vulnerable-to-mind-control-and-extremely-dangerous daeva far away from any wizards. I think that's still viable, but it's going to be awful if that's all we can do. - should check the Imperius and bindings, next, do you know anyone good to ask for that?"

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"Wait, so you want to move all the Muggles to Mars? That's even harder."

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"We were thinking more 'let Muggles emigrate to Mars', which would hopefully inspire Earth governments to try a little harder to be good places to live."

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"Oh, that makes sense."

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"I can think of people who might kink on the curse, if that's an acceptable form of consent."

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" - can you recommend me a book or something on - 2179 social norms or something -"

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"...not off the top of my head..."

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"....yeah, okay, that's - consent-y enough."

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"I'm not sure about any given one and could sound them out by letter, or we could pretend it's a drug trial or something."

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"Your call, I haven't met any of these people yet."

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"It's mostly a matter of timing, letters take longer but it'd be easier to be very precise about what information we give 'em."

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"Could it plausibly pass as a drug test? I don't know what future drugs can do or how they affect daeva."

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"Oh, it couldn't at all, but you could describe a drug as having the effects in question and get as far as 'sign me up' before revealing that there was magic involved, so you didn't explain magic prematurely to half a dozen people only one of whom wound up wanting to try it."

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"Sure, let's do that, we're not pressed for time exactly."

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Cam nods and starts composing a letter.

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He returns to his reading and takes notes on development interventions.

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Eventually Miranda has quizzed Bar to her temporary satisfaction, found representative future textbooks from several worlds similar to theirs to hand off to Finis for closer investigation, and made an itinerary for finding elderly and sickly Muggles of her acquaintance as soon as they can be sure of the door enough to go all the way to London.

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He is calling in some favors to arrange for that.

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"I'm not sure how we convince all these people to pretend to be from 2179."

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"What goes wrong if demons learn about this world? - or we could only summon angels, that'd substantially delay the demons finding out..."

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"...means that Revelation finds out sooner or later, means it gets a little harder to pay them with whatever media effect wizards have had but magic items would still probably work, means Arda finds out sooner or later because the non-Elf species are using summoning as an immortality measure now..."

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"Are any of those bad things? - and we're going to be leaning on magic much more than media - can you fly a broomstick? That's worth checking."

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"Get me one to try, then. They're not particularly bad. Demons knowing that there's not just one extra world but a whole proliferation, though, that might make it awkward if anything came up they really shouldn't know about which didn't happen to be encrypted right."

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"...like -"

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"I don't know - memetic virus? Nonmagical artificial womb?"

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"...we should probably not ask Bar about memetic viruses. Could ask about artificial wombs - Bar, are there nonfiction books with those mentioned -"

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Yes.

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"Okay. So - there're already two worlds, the additional risk from three is pretty minimal, but at some point we're going to have a problem."

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"Yeah. Suppose we can solve it in advance?"

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"...well, wizards can in fact sort of serve as Hell law enforcement if the right spells work on you - can I try Stunning you -"

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"That does what it sounds like?"

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"Yes. I don't even have to be in a scary mental state about it, and mostly it has no side effects but one person a class at Hogwarts will tend to wake up with a headache."

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"How long does it typically last?"

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"Couple hours, usually, but I can wake you up right away."

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"I mean, wait a minute to see if I heal fast or something. Go ahead."

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"Stupefy."

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And now there is an unconscious demon sprawled on the floor.

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He sets a timer. And then floats the unconscious demon and puts him on the couch. 

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He looks very peaceful for about a minute and then his eyelids flutter and he blinks. "...What, was I in the way?" he wonders.

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"Didn't seem very comfortable. Also, wow. It's been about a minute - 54 seconds, if I set the timer right, timers are confusing - so we can knock you out but not for long.

 

...are you okay?"

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"...yes? Should I not be? I don't have a headache if that's what you mean."

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"What I meant was that since we met your expression has most resembled 'happy' when I was mindcontrolling you and when you were unconscious on the floor."

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"I have not been having a great few years."

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"I would offer some form of comfort but I doubt there's much overlap in socially acceptable expressions thereof."

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"I have no idea what's in vogue for comforting people among wizards from 1802."

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"Uh, broomstick sports, chocolate, picking a fight with a juvenile dragon, plotting to take over the world, jumping off the Astronomy Tower..."

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"...picking fights with dragons of any age sounds unsafe for people who are not indestructible. So does jumping off towers."

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"I did not say we take our comfort in advisable activities. There's a spell to catch tower-jumpers, though, it's pretty safe, hasn't been a death at Hogwarts in two decades."

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"...that's not the sort of death rate people brag about in 2179." Cam hauls himself off the sofa and goes back to his seat at the bar.

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"I haven't even told you about Quidditch yet. If broomsticks work for daeva maybe it'll catch on, actually."

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"Maybe. I'm happy to test it out."

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Broomsticks: do not work for daeva. Drawstring bags with the volume of a small room on the inside seem likely to go over well, though. He pockets one for the trip to London and waits for Miranda to reach out to her acquaintances.

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Doesn't take her long, though she declines to explain the details.

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It would be rude to suggest he's guessed any of them. He is only recently qualified to take someone side-along to London, but they make it in one piece.

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And Miranda goes and visits people with mostly-complete angel summonses on paper rolled up under her arm.

Muggles can summon.

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Just remains to be seen if dead Muggle summoners become daeva.

 

 

While they're here, he hops outside town - not too far outside town - and summons the demon Cam recommended him, again.

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Here she is! "Oh hi."

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"Hi!" He's not dressed like he's from 2179; they'd asked Cam for convincingly Muggle clothes, but they're convincing 1802 clothes. "I got you sheet music this time - for a song I guarantee you won't have unless you very thoroughly looked me up. Have you heard about the world with the Elves -"

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"Oh yeah, they've got the most fantastic music. I didn't know humans knew about it yet."

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"I have an inside source. Letting demons talk is really worthwhile. Do you know Cam?"

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"Violin Cam or the one with the bees?"

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"Violin. Is that how you know each other?"

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"Yup. What about him?"

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"I want to ask him out but I'm kind of missing a mountain of cultural context."

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"Oh, he usedta be a human, you don't need to read up on Hell customs or anything."

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"That helps less than you would think. Uh, could I have a computer containing the complete written works of Nelyafinwë Maitimo - he's an Elf, from the new planet - and also a bunch of romance novels from the year 2000 or 2005 or around then?"

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"If you'll settle for published and whatever's top ten in my favorite curator's ring, respectively. You want private stuff I want more than one song and if you need personal discernment find somebody who reads that crap."

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"I want private stuff and am pretty sure that no works by this particular composer are known to the curators in Hell, does that do?"

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"How prolific are they?"

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"They've been touring my whole life, I don't actually know when they started -"

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"Eh, fine, but only 'cause you're cute. How do you want it all formatted?"

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"On a computer, don't care what model, I don't have the chip thingy."

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"You're caaaareless, I could give you punch cards or DVDs with that kind of attitude," she singsongs. She offers him a little chip instead.

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He is confused. "That's a computer?"

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"It's a - you want the entire computer? You don't have one?"

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"I do not have a computer, no. I was going to ask for them in paper but the Elf's old, it'd be really bulky."

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"You are really committed to the historical reenactment thing. You didn't say you wanted a computer up front, sweeten my deal, sweetie."

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"I said 'could I have a computer containing the complete written works of Nelyafinwë Maitimo etcetera etcetera.'  You just assumed I meant something more sensible because what I actually meant was ridiculous. I have something else for you but it's worth way, way more than a computer, want to owe me a favor later?"

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"I don't think that works, like, magically, but I can owe you a favor minus a paperclip or something."

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"Okay." He pulls out a small leather bag. 

 

He sticks his arm in it up to the shoulder.

"Inside's bigger than the outside. Volume of a bathtub, approximately. You can't make it, I did it with parlor tricks, it took ages."

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"With parlor tricks? You're pulling my leg."

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"Try to make it."

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"I think you're doing, uh," she scrambles for a word, "prestidigitation, not that you're trying to pass off techy space-folding."

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He hands her the bag.

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She peers into it.

"The fuck," she says. And she tosses the little chip she made into the air and catches a little computer and hands it over, still staring into the bag.

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"Thank you!" he says brightly. "You owe me a favor. Have a lovely day."

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"You too, Parlor LARP."

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He is confused. He sends her home. He goes and rejoins Miranda in London and after a few more house visits takes her home too.

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Her introduction of Muggles to angels has gone very smoothly considering what a weird thing it is to be doing!

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"I have some ideas for this but I want to run them by Cam."

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"What are they?"

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"I want to convince the Anglican church to have children summon an angel as part of their first Communion and then pull some shenanigans such that wizarding Britain remains convinced this is Muggle superstition."

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"That sounds very hard and will work for a maximum of two years whereupon a Muggleborn first year will notice wizards think it's fake and blow it open."

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"Not if it's sort of ambiguous whether it is fake. I'd need cooperative angels but I bet I can befriend some."

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"I still think it requires too many people to keep secrets."

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"Who, aside from the angels?"

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"Anybody who has to draw up most of the circle, so, at least the bishops."

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"I was imagining they would know that they were setting everything up for the kid to summon an angel, and also that this shouldn't be widely spread because people'd bother the angels."

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"If they thought they had a good reason to bother angels, who can be summoned to every first communion to do nothing much..."

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"Then they'd summon the angels they have a summoning circle for, who'd have to be ones who wanted to be doing this anyway."

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"Cam probably can't introduce you to angels, how long do you think it'll take you to find interested angels going through them at random - enough of them to cover all the churches - don't angels ever take baths or otherwise not want to be on call -"

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"It'll take me awhile but I can do it in Milliways presumably, there should probably be a couple per church in case..."

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"Have you actually tried summoning in Milliways?"

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"We have not. It has worked everywhere it has been tried, though."

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"Milliways is weird."

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"It is! I'll give it a try once we're back."

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"We'd probably need an expert on Anglicanism to get anywhere with the idea. Do you know where you'd get one of those?"

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"Hestia Prewett has an great-uncle who's a bishop but I'm not supposed to know that and I'm not sure how she'd take it if I asked for an introduction."

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"I know a deacon but he doesn't like me."

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"Is there a story there because that sounds like a great story."

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"I may have announced rather loudly that God was evil when I was seven in a way that made it look to some bystanders like he must have told me that outright. Instead of just outlining theological principles that imply it."

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"That's amazing.

 

 

If I have my choice of angels, which it is not obvious I will, I'll get ones who can do healing when they show up. The demons I've met have all been lovely, presumably there're some angels who'd help just for the sake of it."

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"Yeah, that would be good. Although it'd tempt people to summon them on non-Communion occasions."

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"Solved in the short term by people being illiterate and not knowing how, serious problem in the long term."

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"They don't have to know how to read to copy by rote. And they can make mistakes."

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"I'm pretty sure you can work up a circle sufficiently intricate it'd be pretty much impossible to copy without it in front of you. Mistakes - yeah, possible. The advantage to doing all this within preexisting institutions the wizards have written off as superstition is that hopefully we can disseminate a lot of information without it causing much disturbance."

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"I guess if you trust the angels reasonably well and they don't make a mistake on the name, it's not that bad, except insofar as they'd then be tied up next time someone tried to summon them."

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"Everything'd go better if we had demons willing to supervise for shenanigans but Cam might be really busy and I don't think Amriac likes me that much."

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"She doesn't?"

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"I mean, 'hang around doing regular conjurations for troublemakers' is really tedious. I think she likes me fine but I think she would want lots of magic stuff and I'm stretching the masquerade pretty thin as is. Also I feel very slightly discomfited by 2179 flirting. Maybe I should throw Michael at her."

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"They both like music and I get the impression he can't exactly lead her on. It might turn out fine."

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"Can't lead her on? Do I want to know?"

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"I think half my brother's problem, which is still entirely his fault, is that some people our age are starting to think who they're going to marry and some people are trying to have a lovely adventurous time before they are obliged to think about who they're going to marry and he keeps not being on the same page. ...I am pretty sure by 2179 in Hell that's - less of a thing."

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"Huh."

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"I think I might actually introduce them. It'd be highly entertaining. Maybe Cam would make a facial expression."

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"Is he just always like that? I don't know how long you were there before you came and got me..."

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"Most of a day. And - he is probably going to be like that for the foreseeable future, yeah."

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"Why?"

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"I've decided this doesn't need to be widely known in our world, because the people who'd be intrigued would mostly be intrigued for the wrong reasons. But - okay. Elves have - a means of putting their brains on computers. So they can be copied, or stored, or run much faster than normal. Arda was in the middle of a war. One party in the war had taken to killing people, taking the mechanical copies of their brains, and - instantiating them, with some kind of science, so he could torture them constantly and as if a lot of time was passing in very little real time -"

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"What why would you even do that."

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"Very good question. He'd been doing it for a long time before Cam arrived, but when Cam did he, uh, offered to stop, in exchange for Cam killing his enemies. Arda's magic system has a way of bindingly making promises."

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"Cam killed fifty-five million people. From what he said, it was worth it."

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"That's more people than the entire country."

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"It was an entire planet."

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"He can put most of them back. Because of the brain computers."

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"Most of them?"

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"There's a species that doesn't have the brain computer and also there's a stage of pregnancy that doesn't have them and apparently Elves never lose pregnancies and are devastated about that."

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"Oh."

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"So that's why he's sad."

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"I guess that's a good reason."

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"Just a bit, yeah."

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"Would he have been okay with you telling me -?"

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"He thinks that how he feels about any of it shouldn't be a consideration. I'm mostly not going to tell people because they'll be stupid but the reason he didn't originally want to rule Mars was because he was presuming it'd be unfair not to tell everyone and that they'd object to his having authority."

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"I don't think I'd trust anybody who's currently running a country with the ability to kill fifty-five million people either."

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"Me neither. But I trust him, and I just asked for a bunch of stuff from Arda that'll let me verify it just in case he knew my alt long enough to figure out how to lie to me and still thought confessing to killing those people was a good idea for some reason."

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"What'd you get?"

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"All Nelyafinwë Maitimo's notes - if he's me he won't mind, if he's not me I will stop once I determine we're being misled. He would probably mind if I let you read them, but I'll send you relevant stuff."

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"Okay."

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"I am pretty sure I could tell if Cam were lying."

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Nod.

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"I'm a lot more afraid of what someone could do controlling a demon."

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"Especially if it requires specific - practice or something to use the magic right -"

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"Yeah. Ideally all the daeva doing anything in our Earth would have a lot of practice at throwing off the Imperius but I can't pressure people to do that and you can't really get good enough not to even be disoriented..."

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Nod.

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"Can't just let everyone die either, though."

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"If we get the daeva-wizard interactions wrong enough everybody dies."

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"And if we do nothing everybody also dies."

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"I know, but let's not commit instantly full speed to the first mass distribution idea you had. For one thing if nothing else it wouldn't work abroad like that."

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"Yeah. I don't know enough about their Ministries to know what will slide under the radar there."

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"We can't plan for indefinite secrecy. Even a very well-crafted plan to tell about a billion Muggles things will get back to wizards soon."

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"Agreed. We should assume wizards are going to find out."

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"I'm not sure magic couldn't get to Mars if someone really wanted to go, too."

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"The point is that it'd be trivial for a demon to notice someone coming."

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"And do what about it, though?"

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"Cam has not been making a production of it but I am pretty sure he has a lot of ways to nonlethally disable us if he wants to. And then send them back, I guess."

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"Magically unblockable ways?"

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"I mean, if someone is sufficiently determined to block nonlethal ways of disabling them then I am very sure there are some unblockable lethal ones."

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"Suppose."

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"We can ask Cam and maybe also my father but I don't expect 'shut down daeva from interacting with any of the space within a hundred yards of me' is a thing magic can do and that's pretty much what you'd need."

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"Anyway, given that we can't plan for secrecy to last very long or even for any particular length of time I'm not sure it makes sense to build plans on having it even temporarily once we get to the point of mass distribution."

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"I think the existing institution everyone participates in with rituals for small children is the best way to do distribution without lots of illiterate people trying it at home and making costly mistakes."

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"Likely, but that's separate from the secrecy part."

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"Yeah, agreed. And it'd just be until we get universal literacy, I don't know how long to expect that to take."

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"A generation minimum, just from adults who don't feel like learning or think they can't and can't be convinced."

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"Yeah, but it could be even more than that if nutrition or whatever isn't good enough yet."

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"Is that a limiting factor?"

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"People get significantly smarter, over the next two hundred years, and it matters for a lot, I don't know if literacy is one of those things but summoning safely probably is."

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"What're you deriving that from -?"

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"I had Cam recommend me a ton of reading, most of it on development interventions to help poor parts of the world because it seemed most applicable. They have charts."

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"Well, if it's a nutrition thing then demons can probably fix it..."

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"I think it's mostly nutrition and maybe disease exposure and things, and enough 2179 stuff can probably fix it either way."

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"Does this mean that wizards today are probably actually smarter than Muggles, I always thought that was more to do with stuff like having time to read and not necessarily a real thing."

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"Don't say it in public but yeah, there is probably actually something to it, they don't come up with a standard form of measure until the early 1900s but from there to 2100 the average person becomes as smart as a one-in-a-hundred person in 1930 - and we're probably well behind 1930 -"

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"How does the standard measure work?"

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"Uh, ask people to complete patterns and things."

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"It's very self-indulgent of me but as long as we're pausing time I wanna try it."

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"Go for it. The books I was reading didn't have the test in them but I bet Cam'd be happy to make you one."

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"Well, not happy exactly..."

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"I bet Cam will make you one without a discernible change in facial expression. I'll read the stuff from the supposed alternate universe version of me tonight and tomorrow and forward you bits that are of interest, if you want to wait on discussing the mass murder thing with him until then."

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"I don't see that it'd particularly add anything for more people to discuss it with him at all."

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"It'll probably make him miserable but if you have specific questions that haven't been asked of him by anyone I think it's reasonable to ask them. Or have me, if you'd rather it be me."

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"You're probably much better at being delicate about it than I would be."

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"And the alternate universe version of me helped him do it."

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"Helped like -?"

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"Didn't ask. Don't know if it'll be in the notes."

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"Don't see how a demon'd benefit from help wrecking a planet."

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"The oath was very long and detailed, maybe it was help with that part."

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"Makes sense." She lands her broom. In they go.

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Back upstairs. "Lots of elderly Muggles are now summoners, we'll see if it helps."

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"If it does I want to be a demon."

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"Yeah, if it does and it doesn't interfere with magic I want to be a daeva as fast as possible but we'd need wizard deaths to check that."

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"Know any dying wizards?"

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" - yep and I do not want them to be daeva. They haven't done anything deserving of death but - I'll have to think about it."

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"What's the matter with them?"

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"If we keep the magic, it'd be pretty damn trivial to make a summoner snap a binding, I bet you could Confund someone into that, wouldn't even need spells that are acknowledged as actual mind-control -"

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"Confunding being?"

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"Occlumency blocks that one. It temporarily leaves you really really confused and suggestible."

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"You could just summon them immediately, if you could know when they died, under bindings forbidding that sort of thing."

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"Will probably have to at least until we can tell everyone in Revelation 'add 'no casting spells' to your bindings' - and I don't know enough about binding to guess if that's complicated in any way to add -"

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"It might be covered under some but not all of the standards for demons and angels - not fairies, though, fairies don't typically have any options that get covered in language that would encompass mindfuckery. I can't cast a Confundus but I could drug somebody, if they left it open and I wanted to."

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"My guess is that there'd be some loophole for a wizard in bindings not specifically designed to protect against wizards, and also I'd expect them to take offense at bindings and at Muggles who attempt them..."

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"Probably, yes."

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"Also they are less likely to, having been taught to summon, be persuaded not to tell everyone, and have more avenues to reconstruct the circle that was used and so on..."

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"I mean, you could do the circles in invisible ink."

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"Father, if someone did that, what would you try -"

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"Call someone else in invisibly to see if they can tell what's going on, make an exact copy of the paper or whatever that I was supposed to draw on so I could later try all kinds of tests on it to see what features it had that had produced that result, I wouldn't try to read the mind of the daeva but some people would, ask the daeva how this worked and how I could get them back, Pensieve it and mess around in the memory to try to catch something..."

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"You can duplicate objects and include features you don't know about?"

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"As far as I know the charm produces an exact duplicate."

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"What's a Pensieve?"

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"Stores memories for later review! You can walk around, peer at things you didn't get a close look at, get different angles...I don't have one but with sufficient determination could obtain one."

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"...it includes stuff you didn't see? To what distance?"

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"Usually just the room you're in, maybe someone's developed a better one but it's not on the market if so."

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"What if you're outside or had a view of it?"

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"Then your surroundings, rather loosely defined. Couldn't walk by a house and then use a Pensieve to go poke around the indoors, could walk into a room as someone is stuffing a letter into their desk and Pensive the memory to read over their shoulder."

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"Huh. ...But that's a tangent, never mind."

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"If it'd be valuable for something I can go call in some favors and acquire one. But the point is that I don't think if we make elderly wizards summoners then it'll stay a secret long at all. ...could break into Azkaban and offer them the means to commit suicide -"

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"Crossed my mind, yeah."

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"Breaking into Azkaban sounds difficult for the same reason being in Azkaban sounds like a repulsive human rights violation."

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"Yeah, there'd be no chance with just magic but depending what kind of range fairies have you could probably do it with one of them."

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"What's the range on a Dementor?"

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"Minor, how big was a meter again?"

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Gesture. Eyeroll.

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"Some effects at maybe three hundred of those, the intense effects they'd have to be within ten or so."

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"Okay, a fairy and a pair of binoculars can extract a person from there. Possibly also just fling all the Dementors into space."

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"Let's fling all the Dementors into space. Should probably have an alternate containment strategy for the prisoners, though, wizards are legitimately a little hard to hold..."

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"Moon colony? Since Apparition doesn't go that far in astronomical terms. I guess if inmate-on-inmate violence is a problem then that doesn't solve it."

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"There's not much you can do without a wand, Moon colony probably solves it."

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"Nonmagical persons do manage to harm one another sometimes."

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"Sure, but you can nonmagically keep them separated."

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"Solitary confinement is in the future considered cruel."

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" - that's kind of adorable. I mean, I'd fall apart, but that that'd be taken into consideration - Uh, could come up with an arrangement that lets them talk to each other while being separated? Or unseparated with consent?"

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"I could probably design something like that if I can get an exhaustive list of what they might be able to do without their wands. 2179 standards don't settle for not-in-person contact unless it can be demonstrated there's no way to safely have the prisoner around anybody else - like, even if they invariably attack guards and other prisoners, if they will sit nicely with their mom and their mom is available there's minimum standards for how often they have to let her visit, etcetera - but we probably don't have to be quite that precious about it especially if we don't assume a population of prison guards, and it'd be a marked improvement over Azkaban anyhow."

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"Father, can you make Cam a list -"

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"Yes, sure."

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Cam starts drafting a set of low-maintenance moon arcologies.

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He goes up to his room to read about Nelyafinwë Maitimo on his computer. 

 

...he can't figure out how to work his computer.

 

He comes back downstairs. "Uh, Cam?"

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"Yeah?"

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"Amriac gave me a computer but I can't figure out how to make it interact with me."

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"What're you trying to do?"

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"Turn it on and then read content that's on it."

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"The power button is here." Poke. Blink. "Was she possibly motivated to tease you, I'm not sure this is charged."

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"She might have been, she couldn't believe I didn't already have a computer."

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"It would in fact be pretty weird." Cam makes an induction charger and plops the computer onto it. The screen comes alive and goes from flat to slightly textured. There is a clearly visible file tree, containing a folder labeled Complete Works - Nelyafinwë Maitimo and one labeled Top Ten 2000's Romance Novels, GRC. Cam blinks at this selection.

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He totally fails to notice Cam's reaction, or at least that's what his own reaction would indicate. "Thanks. Does the charger go bad?"

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"In a manner of speaking. When the little light on top of the computer is green it's full and you can take it off till it goes red, and you can fill it up from red on this charger five times, and a charge will last for a couple weeks."

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"And then what happens to the charger?"

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"Then it too needs charging, typical use case has it plugged into a socket in one's wall that's hooked up to electricity-delivering infrastructure."

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"Thank you. I am totally going to throw Michael at that demon; they deserve each other."

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"She's over four hundred years old."

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"I'll tell him she doesn't look it."

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"2179 frowns on teenager/400-year-old-demon age gaps."

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"So if I'd taken her up on it she would have said 'actually, no, sorry, if you're not twenty it will offend the sensibilities of the elephants-are-people people - can you date elephants - can elephants date if they're in their teens -"

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"Very few people feel motivated to date elephants. Especially since we don't actually have a way to talk to them. Elephants are permitted to self-police on these matters amongst themselves. And Amriac could guess your age and obviously didn't care, but that's going more by Hell norms than human ones."

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"The Hell ones seem more relevant than the human ones unless I was planning to appoint him ambassador to 2179 which I was not. What's the concern, exactly, because if it's 'lasting emotional scars' Michael avidly collects those..."

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"...that would be a succinct description, I guess... communication problems and disparate expectations and that sort of thing..."

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"- I could impress upon him that it'd mean a lot to me if he conducts himself with maturity and demonstrates sensible communication skills and nothing at all goes down in a fiery flaming wreck, and he'll go '- wait, you're actually serious. Uh, okay.' and then he would be a model of good relationship skills and only a little bored."

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"I mean, separately I have no reason to believe she's girlfriend material."

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"The only kinds of relationships at Hogwarts are 'chaste and headed towards a respectable marriage agreed upon by all four sets of grandparents' 'pretending to be that and maybe experimenting in empty classrooms occasionally' or 'horribly mangling your reputation or that of your partner by having other intentions or no declared intentions or a disapproving family'. To which of these categories does 'girlfriend' map?"

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"Not? Amriac is a naturally occurring demon with no relatives of any kind, I could actually see her marrying somebody but it would be because she thought it sounded like fun and not because she ascribed any significance to the post-wedding state of affairs, she has a lot of casual sex and literally nobody cares about the fact that she does that."

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"I think my brother would like that society much better."

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"It would make the collecting emotional scars harder."

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"True - I think he would like a dating pool with those norms much better, he doesn't want to give people who don't want emotional scars any."

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"Puberty honestly sounds kind of like a form of mind control."

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"Ah-huh."

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"People manage to have lots of relationship drama even under these conditions. Why does he want emotional scars?"

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"- if you want to interview him about his suitability to hook up with a demon who calls me Parlor LARP, I should probably fetch him instead of speaking on his behalf."

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"Parlor LARP? I get the LARP part but why parlor?"

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"Told her I'd made the magic bag with a creative application of a parlor trick. I do not get the LARP part."

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"It stands for 'live action roleplay' which is the polite term for 'running around doing dorky improvisational theater' and would explain your clothes if you were wearing non-2179-issue."

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"I didn't want to try to figure out pants again. Anyway, I should read my computer. Thank you for the charger."

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Cam glances at the romance novel folder again, then says, "You're welcome."

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"You'd have to ask her," he says about the romance novels folder. "If you neglect to say "a computer containing only the following" can they just add whatever they want on there? - the other bit's because I need to check, and it'd have been irresponsible to ask you for the information -"

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"The binding I gave you would not in fact allow extraneous-to-task makings, outside a range of basics that does not cover 'data on a computer to be handed over'."

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"So when I suggested she make the bag to prove it was in fact a magic bag, was she not able to do it, or is that sufficiently task-related because of how I said it - is there a good book on summoning request phrasings -"

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"That is sufficiently task-related. She could make things that contributed in good faith to the negotiation. I could probably assemble my notes from when I taught class into something for you if you like."

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"I'm happy to just use circles you make but it'd probably be good to know what I'm doing by the time I'm summoning random angels to interview - oh, that was what we were going to tell you, Miranda and I were throwing around implications-if-summoning-does-make-our-humans-daeva and I am currently leaning towards doing a rollout through the church because it covers everyone and is pretty wrangleable as an institution, but we'd need angels who found this amusing to cooperate with."

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"I know some angels but my knowing of angels is a hundred fifty years out of date and I don't know if they'd still talk to me."

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"Angels dislike people who got sorted as demons after they died? Isn't that a bit unfair?"

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"...were you under the impression there were fair forms of irrational daeva racism?"

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"Wizards pride ourselves on our irrational racism being over bona fide capabilities differences unlike the Muggles, who go in on skin color. I thought maybe by 2179 that'd have changed."

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"...daeva types are, in fact, a capability difference."

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"Yes, so it's the kind of irrational racism I am totally familiar with. Extending to people you already liked is a little rarer, though."

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"I don't know that they wouldn't talk to me but it's entirely possible they'll assume that in the last century and a half I'll have picked up slothful habits with my cheaty overpowered magic or that I've been rubbing shoulders with bad influences or that my being a demon reveals secret weaknesses in my character."

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Sigh. "I bet I can get pretty far interviewing random angels."

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"You could also go off a list, but that's more about technical qualifications and preferred payment forms than personality."

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"People who can do healing'd be helpful but personality matters a lot more."

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"And you might want to bypass listed angels anyway."

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"Oh?"

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"We can tell the difference between random and individual summons but not the difference between summoners, and listed angels are more likely to be sometimes summoned individually already."

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"Oh, yeah, then in that case definitely." And he settles down on the couch and opens his alt's files.

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Cam resumes prison arcology design.

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A long while quietly reading. "Miranda, do you have a computer I can send the stuff of interest to you to?"

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She has quietly acquired one and with some figuring can tell him how to send things!

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Most of the stuff from the end of the war is chiplocked, but there's plenty of correspondence related to peace and demobilization negotiations since, and he sends a sampling of earlier stuff that makes it (to him, at least) particularly apparent that they are in fact the same person.

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She reads through it and then sends him a little computer note that says I wish there were more of me.

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Well, apparently it's a big multiverse. I'm kind of envious of my alt. He has - a lot of people.

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That must be convenient. It probably helps that he's a prince.

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Probably, but I think if I were surrounded by people that - aligned with me - I could get most of the way there. They just - care about the same things as him, and are trustworthy to do stuff unsupervised. And there are hundreds of thousands of them.

 

We should probably ask for their help.

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Sooner than later?

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Since the trip'll be such a hassle I think we wanted to wait until we knew exactly what we want.

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Makes sense. Do we know that yet at least to the point of knowing who to ask your alt to bring?

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I'm not sure. I have a feeling Elves'll find our world a - shock to the sensibilities.

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More so than people from 2179?

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Differently so but - yeah, I think so. Some of them remember living before the invention of electricity and computers and things, but none of them ever lived in a society that practiced slavery, you know?

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They did have that horrible war, our world is not quite that bad.

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Yeah, true. They might take to it fine. I'll make a list of stuff and people we need.

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Is Cam going to have to hold the door or will the people there do it?

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The alternate universe of my mom is on that planet. I think I'll ask her.

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Is she one of the people your alt sent with Cam to help or is she one of the people who died.

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Died.

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You don't think this will be dreadfully awkward?

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I want to talk with her. Cam might not want to be around and I'll warn him and everything.

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Okay.

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She's not going to make it awkward.

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I really do not understand how you have confident predictions about what would happen if an Elf version of your mother were sacrificed to end some distant atrocity and then resurrected and then introduced to a wizard version of her son.

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Okay but watch, I'm going to be right and then you have to say 'okay, Timothy, that is in fact a useful trait for rulers of the world to have.'

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I will admit in advance that it's a useful trait I just don't understand how you do it!

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If I had it granular enough to teach I would teach you, sorry. 

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It's okay.

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"Got an answer from somebody about the 'drug trial'."

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"We have a volunteer?"

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"Yeah. You can use the same circle, just swap the name - he doesn't have a preferred transliteration, you'll have to copy the Lagalann -" Piece of paper.

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"I might check while I'm at it whether summoning works in Milliways, it'd simplify my interviewing." And he goes up to his room.

 

 

And he draws the circle!

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This demon appears after a couple minutes. "This about the hypnosis-y drug thing?"

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"Yes, hi, Timothy Way. I am doing the drug thing though for informed consent reasons I am going to have to give you a full explanation and the full explanation is much weirder. Are you interested?"

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"Sure."

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"You know the new world, with the Elves -"

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"Huh? Elves? I don't read much."

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"Someone got summoned by accident to a different world than the normal one, and it's got Elves - and a bunch of other species - you can check me on all of this, if that'll go faster than explaining - the Elf planet is called Endorë -"

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"Is this relevant to the drug thing? You know the point of testing on daeva is we'll be okay after, right, you can kinda just fuck me up."

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"Yeah, it's relevant. This world has magic more powerful than parlor tricks. I can do magic. It's not a drug, it's a mind-control spell with the described effects, and we want to check whether it works on daeva in particular, it definitely works on humans."

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"Oh. I guess that explains all the hedgy wording."

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"Yeah. Uh, among things I can probably do are 'make you make stuff' and 'make you agree to a deal that you wouldn't otherwise agree to' -"

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Shrug. "I'm not super fragile. It sounded neat, Cam said he tested it and it was like, fantasy story grade hypnosis, feels like a direct experience of not being responsible for your actions? Go ahead and fuck me up."

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...oh, yikes. 

It takes him a few seconds to get his head back in the right place to -

"Okay. Imperio."

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Spacey demon.

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The demon would like to make a pillow on the bed. (The bindings shouldn't permit this...)

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The demon looks vaguely forlornly at the bed. No pillow.

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He exhales slightly. "I would like you to make me whatever I want for the next hour, and in exchange I will give you a copy of today's edition of the magic newspaper." He would like the demon to agree.

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"Okay," says the demon.

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"Computer chip with the complete published works of Curufinwë Fëanáro and all his descendants, scale model of Nerdanels currently extant in Arda, a box in the corner of the room with counterfeit paper currency -"

- adding instructions about what kind of chip and what scale of model and how much money with the spell -

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The demon makes these things.

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And he concentrates -

- he's really not very good at this spell, and he can tell that he would get really good with practice, and maybe that's not such a good idea - 

 

If there are things that the demon would not mind telling Timothy that he objected to, but would object to doing, he would like the demon to tell him one -

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"I hate apples," says the demon. "And not in the fun way."

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- he's not going to snap the binding and tell the demon to murder a bunch of people but he expects it would work. 

 

Instead they'll go flying. That sounds fun. He'd like the demon to come downstairs with him to go flying.

 

 

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The demon looks mournfully at the binding which confines him to the circle unless a task calls for him to be elsewhere.

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"Make something for me outside -" 

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Follow follow.

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Down through the main bar area!

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"Hi, Ister," says Cam.

"Hiiiii," says the demon.

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Demon should interact normally and sound less spaced out. "We're going flying, want to come?"

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"Is that useful in some way?"

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"The stunning spell wore off fast for you, I'm curious if this one does too. But mostly no, mostly it's just that he's enjoying it and I felt badly about doing thirty seconds of tests and sending him home."

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"I meant is it useful for me to accompany you."

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"No, I was just inviting you in case you liked flying and would have fun."

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"Yeah, all right."

And he goes out with them to the backyard.

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And he will call his broomstick to hand and would like his demon to fly.

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The demon flies very gracefully!

Cam flies too. "He's a dancer," he remarks to Timothy, "I hung around after a performance of Atriama, that's how I know him."

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Ooooh! He will demand more graceful flying, it's really quite pretty. "Atriama?"

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"It's a - musical theater kind of thing, best of its kind."

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"I would have to be a demon to see it?"

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"You'd have to be a demon or summon an entire cast to see it live, but there's recordings, demons are good about recording things."

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"That sounds fun. Maybe when I'm done with testing - 

- I think, low confidence, the Imperius gets easier to cast with practice..."

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"That is typical of practice."

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"Relevant because I could do less dubiously consensual training eventually, maybe figure out how to do it for my family."

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"Nobody else you'd trust with it?"

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"Most of the people I'd trust with it have principled objections to mind control spells for some reason. And I feel - as weird about trying to convince people to learn the Imperius as I feel about trying to convince them to learn to throw it off -"

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"So, surmountably."

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"To the point of 'ask once', wouldn't press it. And first answer if I ask, like, my cousin to learn the Imperius will be 'um, no'."

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Oh look Cam has no opinions about his cousin.

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" - should I not try to draw inferences about what you clam up about, I can avoid doing it but it's definitely there by default -"

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"I assume Ister's going to remember this conversation, regardless of whether you think your alt would want any secrets from you."

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"I didn't ask you to tell me, I asked if I should avoid deriving the information from your expressions."

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"Go ahead, I guess."

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More flying. He experiments with fine control - shift a finger, brush a hair back, make this precise facial expression. He concludes he's definitely getting better at the Imperius Curse.

 

He enjoys it, too. It feels very invigorating. 

 

After an hour or so he has Ister land and he takes the spell off. "Thanks so much."

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Ister smiles at him. "Anytime, that was lovely, it's just a pity it's not actually a thing I can make."

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"Yeah, sorry, we tried making magic stuff and none of it goes through. I'll summon you if I need any stuff made, though. Take care."

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Ister laughs and wraps his wings around himself.

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He sends him home. "He mentioned how you described the spell in your letter to him."

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"He would've asked. - Which bit, I went on for a few sentences."

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" feels like a direct experience of not being responsible for your actions -'"

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"It did. But that's not how it works."

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"Yeah, there's no spell for that.

I read a bunch of the peace treaties. They're doing okay, swords into ploughshares and everything or so I take it when it's all weaponry I've never heard of.

 

I take it you don't think it'd be good for you to, uh, give yourself a break occasionally -"

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"In some sense other than flying around while time's paused?"

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"I was a bit surprised you didn't want to learn to throw it off faster."

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"I'm not sure it wouldn't wind up being unhealthy somehow - make it harder to manage my head on my own - or wrecking my unpleasant-but-endorsed perspective on the whole mess."

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"I was very serious about not pressuring anybody to pick it up. Just - I would ordinarily say 'let me know if you need anything' but I don't actually trust you to do that, not if the reason you need it is that you ended the war -"

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"This is one of those times when what might conceivably help is 'credible unprompted expressions of specific attitudes' and even if I wished to demand to be soothed it wouldn't work. But it's nice that you'd offer."

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"Then maybe I shouldn't try to sneak my mother in while you're out of the main bar area somehow."

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"- hm?"

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"I want to talk with her. I was going to do it while you're not around but actually maybe it'd help."

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"Do you mean your actual mother or Maitimo's -?"

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"Nerdanel - she's already reembodied, I checked -"

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"Then I imagine if she'd had something to say she could have done. I guess she might have been shooed without my noticing or something."

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"Would've seemed like you were busy, since you were in fact busy. Also - I get the sense Elves are a bit - hmm -

 

 

- it might occur to her in a year and she might take another to get around to it?"

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"There is that."

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"In some respects I am jealous of my alt but not that one."

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"What does he even write?" wonders Cam vaguely.

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"Lately entirely treaty negotiation things. Before the war, by volume mostly political stuff that I didn't have enough context to follow - well, straightforward enough to follow on the surface, complicated enough I couldn't guess what the long-term aim was - something like three hundred letters a day thanking people for bringing zoning and permit disputes to his attention and inviting the parties to submit a comment on upcoming laws, I can't imagine he didn't have some goal besides 'be well-known for making civil court disputes vanish to the satisfaction of all parties' -"

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"And this is the sort of thing that gives you useful insight?"

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"I said by volume. That's - not zero information but he clearly has some cognitive enhancements I'm missing, I couldn't keep track of all those people and I'd drive myself crazy trying to add them all to my mental roster.

There's correspondence with his family, there's carefully veiled correspondence with his boyfriend, there's a plan to modernize Endorë that I can outright crib from in places and also made it very obvious that he's me -"

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"Yeah, the chip things they have let them load up all kinds of enhancements, I was very tempted to get one but there's the whole 'become copiable' thing. ...I don't know if it would've made it into writing that he broke up with the boyfriend."

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"Their letters since the war have been excruciatingly diplomatic, comparable to my alt's writing to Thingol, so -"

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Nod.

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"You'd think a society that doesn't even have inheritance to worry about would kind of get over caring so much who people're sleeping with."

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"Nope. They're very much about monogamy and enforced-by-dubiously-voluntary-mind-control heterosexuality. Also they can't look at advertisements for shampoo without blushing."

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" - shampoo?"

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"Elves have, instead of a nudity taboo, an unbraided hair taboo. I didn't notice it right away, nobody commented on my very edgy haircut."

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"Oh, that explains some things."

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"Oh?"

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"I was wondering whether there was a chip thing for not being distracted because at some point my alt would have said 'can you make yourself a shirt you're really hot and I am trying to conduct a war' but I guess he wouldn't have, necessarily."

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"I mean, he didn't ask me to add a couple feet of hair and keep it braided, either. He mentioned once I was his type, that was all."

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"There could also in fact be a chip thing for not being distracted, seems like the kind of thing you might do in a hypermonogamous society of very pretty prudes."

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"I have a list..." He looks at his list.

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It's a long list and nothing on it is obviously named 'prevents distraction by attractive people' or something. 

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"Nothing obviously that."

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"Maybe I'll ask him. I probably won't ask his mother, that'd be weird. - I should probably figure out how to braid my hair before I have her over - wonder if there's a spell for it -"

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"Miranda presumably knows, she has a lot of braids. I actually have no idea if Elves find microbraids decent."

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"Are they all white? Or, well, if-you-were-to-round-to-an-Earth-ethnicity -"

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"The ones I met did not have the sort of hair that encourages microbraiding but they came in a variety of colors."

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"I was telling Miranda I'm really looking forward to meeting my alt, he has - resources I am very envious of, he's surrounded by competent people he can delegate things to -"

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"That kept coming in handy," nods Cam.

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"Not counting immediate family I can count on one hand the number of people I can just - trust to do something ethically and logistically complicated and do it the way I'd have done it. Even counting immediate family there're exactly two who might think of an ethical or logistical consideration I didn't."

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"Which ones?"

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"You've met most of them and I take it shouldn't meet Fredrick."

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"That being your version of Findekáno? Yeah I don't think Findekáno likes me."

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"Wasn't in the letters, should I know -"

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"...several reasons, perhaps most easily summarized is that he invented the chipwriting procedure that lets me resurrect and fork Elves and was not thrilled with what I did with it."

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"Ah."

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"Yeah."

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"Would you - not have done it otherwise, no matter how bad things got -"

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"I would not have been able to convince myself that I would definitely follow through if I made a considered decision in favor. I might have come to the considered decision but it wouldn't have mattered if I couldn't pull the trigger. It's possible I could've anyway but if I couldn't guarantee it in advance - ten days there and back of my time on-planet actually mattered."

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"Is it the - numbers, or - or what -"

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"It's - if something about the oath had been wrong or my verification procedure hadn't been adequate or if there'd been some other contingency we didn't think of then it would be a mistake, in addition to getting fifty-five million people killed. If something has the potential to be a mistake it's easier to do if I can make it be a smaller one after the fact. The absolute numbers ought to matter but honestly mostly didn't enter into it, I didn't have exact figures on how many instances Melkor was running or how fast and definitely didn't want to hint that I was even guessing at it lest he notice I was responsive to that information..."

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"Thank you. I 

 

- yeah. Thank you."

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"...what about that entitles me to thanks?"

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"I am really good at putting myself in peoples' heads and am still struggling to fathom what it must have been like and I do not know if I could have done it and I am so, so grateful that you could and that you did."

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"Well. You're welcome."

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"You didn't mention how I was one of the people getting unimaginably tortured."

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"Should I have?"

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"Changes absolutely nothing about whether it was the right decision, will definitely help Nerdanel and possibly a lot of other people when they learn it."

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"If you say so."

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"'I experienced loss in order to protect a person I know and care about' is - way easier to cope with than 'there was a war somewhere and then everyone was dead' -"

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"I could probably get a complete roster if that would be useful but most of the captured people were from Endorë originally, I think. Though he got your grandfather's alt before the war proper was even underway."

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"Might be useful. I shouldn't try to cover for my alt, he has more information. ...though he's probably unwilling to exert any influence on the popularity of the decision if he helped you do it.

 

Miranda asked what exactly 'help' entailed."

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"Oath-finessing. Findekáno-wrangling."

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"I blurted something out I shouldn't have in front of Findekáno, he might have told someone, the Maiar on Endorë could have told the Valar with their magic communication powers."

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"Ah. 

 

Mine - wouldn't do that. He might appreciate it if I didn't give him the option but he wouldn't do it. - I guess he is in fact fifteen and thinks better of me than I warrant and the Elves are all grown up -"

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"And you didn't have a dramatic breakup and then snipe at each other constantly."

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"We're not dating. He's a kid. - and also not that, though, wow. Michael would make fun of me if anything about the mess were less horrible."

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"I didn't say you were. They were, though. It was actually so obvious from a perspective of expecting the possibility that I didn't realize it was supposed to be a secret until I accidentally delivered a dire insult."

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"- how'd you manage that -"

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"I don't remember my exact words but I told Findekáno something like 'can you be less dramatic about your ex-boyfriend all the time' - which is of course even to 2179 insulting, just not direly - this was in front of your dad's alt, he took a few seconds to work backwards from my bewilderment about what Elf thing I had stepped on to figure out that I had not intended to be quite that rude, I went and caught up with Findekáno and apologized. Findekáno at some point then developed the apprehension that Maitimo and I were an item and that was likewise bewildering because he didn't say so, Maitimo had to explain it, that's when the 'his type' thing came up."

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"You arrived after the war had already started, right?"

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"Ish. I showed up in time to make them enough ships to get to Endorë all in one trip but not soon enough to obviate stealing the initial batch of ships."

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"No, I just meant - it's kind of the difference between 'I am not very impressed with my alt' and 'what the actual fuck' - and then trying to backtrace whether that's in fact a thing I might do under sufficient pressure - alternate universe versions of people are weird as a concept -"

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"A bit, yes. What in particular are you unimpressed by?"

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"- everything you described? Michael burns all his bridges and lets drama simmer for months afterwards but he does it on purpose when it doesn't matter and it still drives me nuts. 

 

 - I haven't dated anyone and was planning to find a likeminded girl for public image reasons and not even think about it until the world was fixed, that looks like a lot more of a good idea if I am just not capable of handling a breakup competently but that's a weird thing for me to be terrible at -"

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"It could be an Elf thing but I don't know, I didn't meet other Elves known to me to be broken up."

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"The Elf versions of my parents were on different planets - I guess there's probably a non-awkward way to ask Nerdanel 'are Elves as a species really dreadful at handling breakups' - oh, lord, I don't even want to know what Macalaurë's would've looked like if it's a species thing -"

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"I mean, whatever it was it didn't make him look conspicuously awful in the first ninety seconds of my acquaintance with him. My information about Macalaurë is 'very good at singing'."

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"Whereas the me did look conspicuously awful in the first ninety seconds of your acquaintance? Oh no." 

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"No, only once I saw him interacting with Findekáno, but that was very fast."

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"In addition to being confusing on a personal level that is bewildering on a strategic level, what if they'd gotten a demon who'd only help them in the war if he happened to like them personally?"

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"I could not begin to tell you."

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"I would be skeptical he's me but he's totally me. ...they really, really were lucky they got you."

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"Yeah."

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Inside. "Imperius doesn't get around bindings, though that doesn't help us very much because the summoner should be presumed vulnerable to it and someone who wanted could summon daeva, Imperius them, and snap the binding if the spell takes and they want something horrible done."

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"They'd be risking the daeva throwing the spell off later, but I guess a minute is enough to do a lot of damage."

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"Yep, and the daeva might be able to resist doing something they considered awful - didn't test that - but there're also requests you could make that would not be obviously horrible but would enable plenty of horrible -"

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" - to-scale exact replica of some particular innocent-looking location gets you nuclear weapons -" Finis agrees -

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"What're those -"

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"Bad."

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"Like, 'everyone in a city dies and the place spends a few decades uninhabitable'."

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" - how does a replica of a random location do that -"

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"If the location has nuclear weapons in it. They are perfectly duplicable by demons and if you set one off: that. Of course they're conventionally delivered by airplane, but I'm sure a creative person could surmount that obstacle."

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"I am impressed Revelation still exists."

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"Two nukes have been dropped in wartime and one in discovering that daeva are in fact immune to nukes like everything else. Otherwise people have behaved themselves and only use the tech for power generation and posturing at foreign countries."

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" - someone killed a city to check if it'd kill a daeva -"

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"People are not as careful with angels as they are with demons and she was a problem. Eventually they found her summoner."

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"Ah. Is she somewhere under a binding getting regular visits from her mother or do they just put out a picture and say 'watch out for that one' - that wouldn't even work, with an angel -"

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"She doesn't have a mother, most daeva are naturally occurring, but yes, summoned under a binding getting regular visits from people who think serial killers are neat."

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Shiver. "If I ever commit any random atrocities I will make a point of doing them in 2179."

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"The Elves don't even imprison people, if you imprison an Elf they just sort of randomly die."

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"Wait, really? What do they do about, like, murderers and so on..."

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"They don't. This managed not to present a problem for thousands of years, as I understand it, and then it did and they didn't cope very well."

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"- ah."

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"You think 2179 is adorably goody two-shoes, it's got nothing on Elves. Except for how their deities were fucked up about sexual mores, and even that they cope with without the repression causing the sorts of population-level issues I'd expect in humans who had similar gods breathing down their necks."

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"What sort of population-level issues would you expect to see -"

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"Oh, I don't know how it is in 1802 but circa my lifetime all affection between people of the same sex was policed for possible romantic subtext or loose associations with supposed personality correlations, and it was popular in certain subcultures to send one's suspected gay children to be subjected to abusive therapeutic practices to change it, and the wrong rumor in the wrong high school would induce physical violence. ...Elves did have the abusive therapeutic practice thing, the gods went in for that, but it actually worked and presumably involved less operant conditioning and I think it required at least token consent."

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"- and in 2179?"

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"In 2179 there are still small religious sects that frown on homosexuality but they'd better not fuck up their kids over it or child protective services will whisk them away."

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"But like, what if you don't want to like boys - because you want to get married or something - I'd be annoyed if I went through puberty and turned up wanting to kiss boys, that'd be stupid -"

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"It is possible you wouldn't feel that way if raised in 2179."

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"...bet I still would."

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"I'm not aware of that being a common sentiment in 2179 but of course human psychology is a vast and complex thing. Although for reference it is possible to want to kiss boys and also want to kiss girls. And it was only six years after I died that gay marriage became legal throughout the United States, I think the UK beat us to that."

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"Bet wizards are slower."

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"I wouldn't know how to predict that."

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"We could look at the books in Bar but it's not really important because taking over the world'll change that."

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"It is the sort of thing that would."

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"I think I might start interviewing angels."

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"Have fun."

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"Thank you. What's the circle look like to grab someone at random?"

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"Do you want a bunch of sheets of paper with most of a circle for that on 'em?"

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He gestures with his wand. "I can draw them up pretty quick, but sure."

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Cam hands him a rolled up bundle of papers.

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And he goes back outside to interview angels.

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And he starts quizzing Minor on electrical engineering questions from a glossy future textbook.

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An angel appears on demand.

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"Hi! I'm Timothy, nice to meet you, I'm doing interviews for some future projects but I can go get you a computer or something for your time, there's a very well-supplied vendor inside."

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"Srini," says the angel. "What sort of projects?"

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"I'm not from the world you're usually summoned to, I'm from another one, and it's at a much lower tech level - like, we haven't invented electricity yet - but it has magic more powerful than parlor tricks. I want to teach lots of people how to summon, but some of them are going to mess it up and I don't want them summoning angels at random, and also practically none of them have anything decent to pay with, so I want to set up some kind of monthly retainer thing."

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"Huh. Why haven't I heard of the place before?"

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"Have you heard about the one with the Elves?"

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"What? No..."

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"This was a couple years ago but it was a demon that found it so I guess it hasn't propagated yet. We're not sure why no one in our world accidentally stumbled on summoning earlier, but it works reliably now."

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"Weird. Why do you want a bunch of people who can't trade anything to summon angels?"

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"We don't seem to go to Limbo when we die but it looks like ex-summoners might become daeva same as they do in the human world you're used to."

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"What if they still have their magic after?"

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"Then we are going to have to snatch them back under a well-designed binding right away, but the vast majority of people in my world don't have the potential for magic - if they did, they could pay you themselves - and the ones who do live separately, and we're trying to offer this to the ones who don't."

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"You know taking summons is voluntary? You can't snatch them if they just want to cause trouble in Heaven."

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He pulls out his wand. "Without one of these they can't do anything, and they'd have to go back here to trade for one, since these are magic and you can't do them yourselves - and also, if anyone were trying to give someone trouble in Heaven, you can just poof this and they'd be out of luck."

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"Oh. Good to know. Magic stick."

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"Yup. No stick, no troublemakers. I'm much more worried that wizards will summon angels and then use our magic to cause trouble, do you have suggestions on preventing that?"

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"Not really. I don't know what the sticks even do."

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"All kinds of things. The ones most relevant for troublemaking are that they can make people more suggestible."

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"Well, does that go through bindings?"

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"Nope. Could cheat the angels with it, though."

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"You'll get fewer angels, if that happens too much."

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"Yeah. Do you think many angels might be interested in learning to protect against it?"

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"What, with our magic sticks?"

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"No, anybody can learn, I just don't know how many people'd want to. I'd be happy to compensate them."

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"It won't help if people summon randoms, there's billions of angels."

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"You might know better than me but I think it's a bad idea to introduce summoning of randoms to my world. I think what we should probably do is find angels who want lots of magic items and other things I can provide them and are willing to sort of be on call for it, and then never teach anyone in my world how to get a random angel - or, for that matter, any daeva other than an angel -"

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"It's not hard to reverse engineer as I understand it."

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"Most people can't read, and even for the ones who can we can do circles in languages they don't read."

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"Your funeral."

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"I guess! Do you know anybody who'd want a lot of magic stuff or who'd want to hang around a new world a lot, might want a setup like this?"

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"Fantasy nerds? Or history ones maybe? What does the stuff do?"

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"We've got paintings that move and wave at you and can carry on a very limited conversation, newspapers that do the same thing -" he hands her one - "we've got bags that are bigger on the inside than the outside, owls that deliver messages to people, little magic moving models of the galaxy, tiny animated figurines, goblets that duplicate whenever you touch them - that one's kind of dangerous with humans but you can get rid of 'em if you accidentally bury yourself in several thousand -"

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"...I don't understand why you'd even make those goblets but okay. There's a market for that, even people who don't want 'em could sell 'em."

Permalink Mark Unread

"Great! Are you interested?"

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"Yeah, I resell stuff from summons a lot."

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"Cool. That's all the questions I have until we've got more complete plans worked out, what can I get you for your time?"

Permalink Mark Unread

"Do you have a demon in there or was 'well-supplied vendor' not a euphemism?"

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"I have both a demon and a different well-supplied vendor if you object to getting things from demons, it's kind of a long story."

Permalink Mark Unread

"No reason not to take things from demons. Except maybe vertebrates, those I'd rather get somewhere else, demonic animals give me the creeps. Anyway I want to get my friend a nice vase, is your demon artistic?"

Permalink Mark Unread

"I bet he could come up with something."

Permalink Mark Unread

"Cool."

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Inside - "hey, Cam, angel named Srini agreed to help, wants a very pretty vase for a friend, do you mind?"

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"Not at all, although vase design is not my principal skillset -" He hands over something swirly in variegated jade.

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"Thank you!"

Permalink Mark Unread

"What's your principal skillset?"

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"I know medicine and engineering and programming. I'm qualified to teach summoning. And I can play the violin."

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"I wanna be a demon."

Permalink Mark Unread

"No idea how it'd interact with your being a wizard. And I can't guarantee you wouldn't be an angel or a fairy instead."

Permalink Mark Unread

"I'll wait to see if you lose being a wizard. That wouldn't be worth it, not when Timothy can just collect demons."

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Tail-swish. "That's a way to put it."

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He returns to his reading.

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He brings the vase!

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"Huh," says the angel. "I like the shape, might turn it into alabaster or something, she doesn't like green. Thanks."

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"My pleasure! Have a nice day!" And angel can go away.

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Pop.

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Another one!

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This one beams at him and flutters his wings when he appears.

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"Hi! I'm Timothy, nice to meet you, I'm doing interviews for some future projects but I can get you something for your time."

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"Hi!!!"

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" - first summons?"

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Nod nod.

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"Cool! What's your name?"

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"I don't have one yet!"

Permalink Mark Unread

"Wait, really? Wow. Uh, humans get names from their parents, do angels pick their own?"

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"I think so? I couldn't understand most of what people were trying to tell me before."

Permalink Mark Unread

" - you start without language? Wow. That's - kind of inconvenient.  - we start even more inconveniently, I guess, but with people committed to looking after us."

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"Some people were helping me! I learned enough that they could tell me to come here for easy languages."

Permalink Mark Unread

"That's good. Did they explain how the 'coming here' thing works beyond that you get all my languages?"

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"I think they tried..."

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"So, in Heaven, everyone can change things and no one can get seriously hurt, right? My world doesn't work that way - we're very fragile, if you damage us enough we get destroyed and stop existing and can't be brought back, and we can't do the changing-things either, although we have other magic. So we bring angels here to help us with projects, and we do it with safety precautions so you don't damage us - you can't change stuff right now, I don't know if you've tried it - and then we can agree on terms and if we agree on terms you can help me with a project and I can pay you and then send you home. And if we don't agree I just send you home."

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"But I don't want to damage you," blinks the angel.

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"Yeah, I know! But some people might be mean or angry or careless, and since it'd be so bad if that happened we're really careful even though most people are perfectly nice."

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"Oh. What do you want help with?"

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"I'm looking for some angels who want to have a regular job coming to my world and doing all kinds of things. Right now I'm just asking around for people who might want to do that sort of thing, I don't need anything changed right now. Though if you want to change anything we can agree on it and then you'll be able to do it like normal."

Permalink Mark Unread

"I kept changing my feather colors." They're currently a mix of blue and yellow. "But I don't have to do it right now."

Permalink Mark Unread

"Okay. That I think you should be able to do anyway, it's if you tried to change the grass that you'd notice it. What's Heaven like?"

Permalink Mark Unread

"It's brighter. And everybody has wings. You don't. Is that weird?"

Permalink Mark Unread

"Humans don't get wings! I can fly with my magic instead, though. People without magic can't fly at all; I don't know if they are sad about it."

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"I just thought it might feel weird to be missing parts."

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"It doesn't feel like missing them since we never had them."

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"Huh. Okay." He starts turning some of his feathers red. "What kinds of things do you need an angel for?"

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"Fixing people, but that's very delicate and takes lots of practice. Getting rid of big spills of poison things, sometimes. In my world people think angels are really good, and if they summon angels they might get to go to Heaven when they get destroyed, so they summon angels for that reason and all they would want would be to meet you."

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"That one sounds easy."

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"If you are interested I can tell people they can summon you for that."

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Flutter. "Okay!"

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"That's all I had for now, do you want anything while you're here?"

Permalink Mark Unread

"Do you want to name me?"

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"Uh. I would be very flattered but I don't know very much about what kinds of names are common in Heaven, it would sound very obviously human."

Permalink Mark Unread

"I can change it later if it's too weird."

Permalink Mark Unread

"Do you know your friends' names?"

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"Yeah. Riarime and Agueda and Gabriel and Pher and Tliarq."

Permalink Mark Unread

"Oh, if some angels are named things humans know as angel names then that'd be easiest, then when you tell the people in my world your name they'll know it's an angel name right away..Nithael?"

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"Pretty!"

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"Great! I'll summon you again when we're ready to start doing things, you should think of some things you want in the meantime!"

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"Okay!" beams Nithael.

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"Ready to go home?"

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"Okay!"

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Angel dismissed!

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And he's gone.

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Next angel!

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This one has a halo! It floats! "Summoner," he says levelly.

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"Hi! I'm Timothy, nice to meet you, I'm doing interviews for some future projects but I can get you something for your time."

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"'Something'?" says the angel, raising an eyebrow.

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"Have something in mind? There's a bar inside with kind of astonishing variety."

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"I don't drink."

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"It's a weird bar, I bought a bunch of textbooks."

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Slow blink. "Why does a bar sell textbooks?"

Permalink Mark Unread

"No idea. Want to come pick out something you'd like?"

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"This'll be one for story night. Why not."

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Inside!

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"Eugh," the angel says of Cam.

Cam glances in his direction and doesn't say anything.

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It's honestly kind of reassuring that people from the future still have stupid forms of racism. He pulls out some of the money he had Ister make him and hands it to the angel.

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The angel doesn't take it. "Is that paper money? What am I supposed to do with it, pay the demon?"

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"No, the bar. Takes money for things. Cam might also make you things if you refer to him by name rather than by species, but I gather this is a long-standing thing and honestly until my little brother gets over his feud with the nation of France I can't even judge you so I was assuming you'd rather buy things from the bar."

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"There's nobody there."

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"Bar, can you recommend me a drink?"

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Here is something amber in a frosted glass.

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The angel gestures at Cam in wordless annoyance.

Permalink Mark Unread

"Uh, you can hand the Bar a note asking for something and keep an eye on Cam to verify he hasn't copied and peeked at the note, if you want to verify they're different people."

Permalink Mark Unread

"I have seen this TV show, thanks but no thanks."

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He has his drink. 

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"I'm not that racist."

Permalink Mark Unread

"You have to stop being at all racist before I can start judging people for being racist. Do you want anything from the demon that takes currency and prefers to manifest as a bar, or not?" he says to the angel.

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"No."

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"Okay. Have a nice day."

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The angel waits impatiently to be dismissed.

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The angel can be dismissed. 

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And he's gone.

Permalink Mark Unread

"Bar, are there things you can do which demons can't, by any chance?"

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Manage establishment personnel, rent rooms, disappear currency and sold objects, discern diet-relevant medical information and then some, comment on properties of the multiverse, track enormous numbers of tabs, and be made entirely of wood.

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"Thanks. Okay. That drink was fantastic." And back outside. 

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The backyard is where he left it.

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Angel.

 

This is so much fun. 

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Angel! "Hi, I'm Ashoka!" she says.

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"Hi, Timothy!" - and the explanation -

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"Hm, I'm not sure I'm at a point in my life where I want a routine gig."

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"No worries. Do you know anyone who might?"

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"Most of my friends are huge Earth geeks, I'm not sure I know anybody who'd like to spend lots of time in a totally other world. I could ask around."

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"Oh, it's an Earth, just an Earth with some minor divergences because of the magic and it's 1802."

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"...Magic is a minor divergence?"

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"I've been comparing notes and it doesn't change as much as you'd expect? Almost all the same people in charge, almost all the same events. If you know some history nerds that might work great."

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"I know lots of history nerds! Some of them are even nineteenth century nerds. Although you seem to be probably British and my thing is the first several centuries of Buddhism so I will maybe have to dip into friends of friends."

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"I am British and while we're not committed to starting here we're too late for the first centuries of Buddhism. I don't know much about it, what do you study?"

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She is happy to infodump about the first several centuries of Buddhism, such as the emperor she named herself after and what she's managed to smuggle in from Hell via Fairyland to verify facts about the life of Siddartha Gautama!

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He is such an attentive audience!! "There's a demon inside if you want to ask him for some stuff."

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"Ooh!"

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"Want to go ask him?"

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Nod nod nod.

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Inside!

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And the angel bounces up to Cam and starts jabbering about things she wants and he makes her things.

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And then she can go home. "Thank you very much," he says to Cam. "If it gets tedious I can grab someone else for angel payments."

Permalink Mark Unread

"It's fine," he says. "If you ever run out of less trivial things to do you could try diplomacizing away the tiny stupid fake war between Heaven and Hell and then she and her ilk could just place direct orders for things."

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"Once the world's a post-scarcity paradise for everyone even the elephants, and before we figure out how to reach the rest of the worlds, sure."

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"Finding other worlds is probably more important."

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"Yeah but my role in it will probably be limited to finding the smart people and throwing them all in here with all the magic we've got access to."

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"Ah."

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"So between then and when they sort it I could end the war between Hell and Heaven. Honestly, mostly because it'd be a cool thing to add to my eventual string of titles."

Permalink Mark Unread

"It'd sound pretty impressive to people from Earths at least."

Permalink Mark Unread

"And it looks like there're a lot of Earths. But - like you said, if interworld travel were widely achievable we'd expect someone to have said hello by now."

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"Depends on how widely and whether some places are easier to get to."

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"It's definitely worth a lot of our effort indefinitely, even if we don't seem to be getting anywhere, given the returns. But I won't personally be much use. ...interviewing angels is going well, most of them are interested or have friends who they think would be."

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"That's good. The Terraboo was a lucky find."

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"Terraboo?"

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"For complicated etymological reasons people who are really into cultures not their own get corresponding cutesy mild slurs ending in -boo. Daeva who like Earth stuff are Terraboos."

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"...okay. And humans really into daeva stuff?"

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"There isn't a catchall, and I'm not sure there's consensus on the terminology either, but I have heard 'haloboo' and 'hellaboo' and either 'bugaboo' or 'sidheaboo'."

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He giggles. And goes back to interviewing angels.

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There are many! As many as he summons!

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It's so much fun!!! Eventually he has to sleep, and goes back inside.

 

And when he has enough angels for the Anglican Church (or whatever better scheme is developed), he would like to find a fairy interested in destroying Azkaban.

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Fairies are just as easily come by as angels! This guy has iridescent blue butterfly wings and has chosen to appear stark naked for some reason.

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He is still less distracting than Cam who Timothy has never seen without pants. 

(There're spells for that but Timothy is a good person.)

"Hi, Timothy, I like your wings."

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"...My name isn't Timothy."

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"My name is Timothy, and it's nice to meet you."

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"Oh, I see. Hi."

Permalink Mark Unread

"Have you heard of dementors?"

Permalink Mark Unread

"Is that the retrofuturist band?"

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"Uh, no, they're these monsters -" newspaper clipping - "in my world, which is not the standard world you're used to being summoned to, apparently word about the additional world is slowly getting around on that but not everyone's heard yet?"

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"I'm way behind on the news, back in Fairyland I'm actually thousands of miles from civilization!" says the fairy brightly.

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"That'd do it! Okay, I'm from another planet and my planet has dementors and they feed off emotions. In their presence it is impossible to feel any happiness and if they're around you for too long you just replay the worst moment of your life, over and over."

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"...Uh, okay..."

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"And we are looking for someone to take them - well, all the ones on this one island - into space, pretty far away. It won't hurt them but they can't go around hurting people anymore."

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"They don't work from far away?"

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"They have a range of like 300 meters. You could do it with binoculars and they'd be nowhere near close enough to bother you."

Permalink Mark Unread

"Okay, and they don't have some kind of limit break where as soon as their power is threatened they will unleash their true potential?"

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"There is no reason to think they have that but if anything starts to go wrong I'll send you home right away."

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"But what if it happened at you?"

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"I can be even farther away, keep a - video camera? - with you."

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"They can't break cameras?"

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"If the camera breaks something went wrong and I send you home."

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"Hmmm," says the fairy dubiously.

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"Any stuff you want?"

Permalink Mark Unread

"Well, I don't know if you noticed but a while ago I wandered into a thornbush and now I don't have pants."

Permalink Mark Unread

"Thought maybe it was a deliberate fashion choice. I know a demon, he can make you some pants."

Permalink Mark Unread

"Being without pants doesn't bother me enough to get me to transport nightmare monsters though."

Permalink Mark Unread

"Well, demon. He can also make you some other stuff."

Permalink Mark Unread

"...like how much stuff?"

Permalink Mark Unread

"I hear demons are not really constrained by amount of stuff."

Permalink Mark Unread

"Well, true, I dunno how he's bound though."

Permalink Mark Unread

"He, uh, isn't. It's kind of a long story but he's helping us out and doesn't mind making stuff."

Permalink Mark Unread

"You just... keep an unbound demon around?"

Permalink Mark Unread

"I trust him and also his summoner's on another planet so even if I were inclined to do something about it on general principle I don't have a way to do that."

Permalink Mark Unread

"You can't just send an extranet message to Mars?"

Permalink Mark Unread

"Mars isn't the planet. It's called Atriama and it's in intergalactic space somewhere."

Permalink Mark Unread

"...You're having fun with me, aren't you."

Permalink Mark Unread

"It does sound pretty ridiculous, doesn't it? There is in fact a demon inside who will make you anything you want and can carry back, let's start with that because it's the only bit I can actually prove so far."

Permalink Mark Unread

"Whatever, I suppose if I'm naked on interplanetary broadcast I'm already that."

Permalink Mark Unread

"I was talking to an angel yesterday who thought this was that, too, do people do that? That's kind of appallingly rude." Indoors.

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"Uh, hi, Timothy."

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"Shoo, kiddo."

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"Bar actually has rules about pants," Cam remarks.

"Great, I would love to follow these rules, I did not choose to not have pants," says the fairy.

And now the fairy has pants.

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"Thank you."

Permalink Mark Unread

"You're welcome."

"Are you seriously unbound?" wonders the fairy.

"Yeah."

"Prove it."

"Uh, no."

Permalink Mark Unread

"Was there anything else you wanted?"

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"Yeah, but I didn't bring my shopping list, lemme think."

"Do you have a shopping list."

"...Yeah. Uh, it's on my fridge."

"Title it," suggests Cam, "so I don't have to make your entire fridge or your last fourteen shopping lists."

"...Things To Ask The Unbound Demon For?"

Cam hands him a list and he starts sorting into things he wants from the demon and things he would rather actually shop for.

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He asks Bar for another drink.

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Bar comes up with something green. It has an olive in it.

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He waits for the fairy to get all the things he wants.

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It's a lot of things. They are neatly organized and some of them are floating. And then he's out of list.

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"Thank you very much, Cam."

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"You're welcome. I've got the moon prison figured out but I think you're in charge of figuring out how we get future transport of criminals to it and release therefrom handled."

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"I will need some help on the shuttles but yes, I can do the rest of that."

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"What kind of help?"

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"Things operable by us, mostly."

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"They can mostly autopilot but you would need to learn to fly 'em for emergency purposes in case something happened."

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"What sort of stuff happens, with what probabilities, what does flying them entail in those cases, and we should do thorough testing on magic around electricity in general to make sure we can't just disable them making a sandwich."

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"I can give you a video game to play that will introduce you to all the plausible non-magic-involving shuttle piloting eventualities."

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"Cool. And can you give him a good pair of binoculars and a camera so that I can check in remotely on things?"

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"Yeah sure. You will also need a demon who unlike me isn't retaining door privileges for the prison itself though."

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"I'll hit up Ister again." And to the fairy who did not introduce himself - "mind taking me to the Moon real quick for some setup before the monster excavation?"

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"I can do that."

"You might want two fairies," Cam says. "So you can have the Dementors and the prisoners both handled separately and right away."

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"The prisoners are not going to be in any kind of condition to do - well, anything. But yeah, might be safer."

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"Do they need, like - what's the usual protocol for somebody coming out of Azkaban?"

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"- they get their wand back and some people who care about them can take them home, if there aren't any they can go in the long-term magic damage ward at St. Mungo's?"

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"What do the people and/or Saint Mungo's who the hell is Saint Mungo do with them?"

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"It's a hospital, and I think they, like, spell them food every day and stop them from damaging anything?"

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"What a lovely hospital. Possibly there should be therapists in the moon prison."

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"I will ask my Elf mom for recommendations."

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"That's probably a better idea than trying to use daeva."

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"What exactly are therapists -"

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"Mental health professionals, overdeployed in many cases but 'spent any time in Azkaban' is a good case of them being maybe useful."

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"I will fetch Ister and find a fairy for prisoner relocation -" to the fairy: "unless you'd rather do prisoner relocation than the Dementors."

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"Sounds safer... is it?"

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"Yes, none of them will be dangerous and most of them will be comatose and I'll have shuttles made for them."

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"...why shuttles?"

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"...to take them to the Moon without them dying along the way?"

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"I'm. A fairy."

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"If you've got a way to do it without shuttles then okay." 

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"I'm a fairy! Why would I need shuttles?"

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"If it's safe for people on Revelation I'm sure it's safe for wizards but I'd have expected air would be a problem."

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"Air is a thing! I can move air!"

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"I apologize for doubting you. You can take all of the prisoners to the Moon without any shuttles involved."

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Cam hands the fairy instructions on how to distribute them.

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And he goes off to get another fairy.

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This fairy isn't wearing pants either but only because she's wearing a dress (backless, to accommodate sheer fly wings). "Good day, how can I help you?"

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"Hi! I'm Timothy. I don't know if word has gotten around yet that there are worlds other than the one you're normally summoned to?"

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"There've been rumors going around..."

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"The rumors are accurate! Well, actually I guess I can't speak to that. But there are in fact other worlds. I'm from one. It has these things called Dementors. They can't be killed, and they make everyone in close proximity depressed. If you spend enough time right near them you start experiencing the worst moments of your life, over and over again. My world made a deal with them; they can feed on our prisoners, in exchange for not bothering anyone else."

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"...Ew," says the fairy.

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"Ayup. Want to dump them in deep space for us? It's a much better solution."

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"Sure, but I need at least a token payment to leave the circle."

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"We've got a demon on board with the project - needed a more humane prison once the things are gone - and he'll make you whatever you want within reason."

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"Oh, excellent. I accept."

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"Cool! I didn't get your name -"

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"Treeleess."

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"Pleasure to work with you. Demon's inside, I'd prefer if you grab your payment up front so if anything goes wrong I can dismiss you - there's no reason to expect it will, you can stay very far outside their range the whole time, but just to be safe -"

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"Some things I want are large and it may be inconvenient to keep them close enough to bring back with me while performing tasks."

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"Okay. I really don't expect anything to go wrong, so if you'd rather collect afterwards that's fine." Back inside.

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"Alternately you could resummon me later with a token task, and I could take partial payment now."

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" - sure, let's agree on small stuff now and then if for some reason we are prevented from renegotiating to give you more stuff afterwards, I'll summon you back for it."

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And she gives Cam a list and arranges her stuff on her person.

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And he says to Cam - "I am not expecting wizards to arrive to interfere - no chance they'd arrive in time to interfere with dementor removal, only might have a chance to react before we have everyone relocated if rounding up the prisoners is more convoluted than expected - but if they did, I don't love having the fairies hold them off and invisibility seems likely to impede them significantly. Can I have a binding for Ister that lets me use him to nonlethally incapacitate people if needed -"

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"Are we assuming wizards react to drugs like everybody else, or that he's wrecking wands, or...?"

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"I'm willing to bet wizards react to drugs the same as, or by recovering more quickly than, Muggles, and I'd prefer that to wrecking wands because wrecking wands will make everyone hate me."

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"He could also tie people up or something, drug dosage can be fiddly and he isn't medically trained so he won't know what to look for if he can't go with a simple algorithm because the wizard metabolism keeps throwing him off..."

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"I'd expect the sort of people sent to investigate an Azkaban breakout to have defenses against being suddenly tied up, which is a thing our magic can do. Standard drug dose and then wreck wands if that fails to work?"

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"Okay." And Cam draws up an alternative circle.

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And he completes it.

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It's Ister! He smiles at Timothy.

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"Hey! Want to do the Imperius again? I need a moon colony, it'd probably be a couple hours."

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Ister laughs. "Sure, okay."

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"Thank you! Imperio."

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Ister is a happy mindcontrolled demon.

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Who agrees to help for the duration of this operation in any capacity in which his help might be required, in exchange for the mindcontrol spell, because that's what Timothy would like him to agree to, and now are the fairies staring?

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"I would suggest that I explain on the way, but I half-suspect that someone's going to laugh at me and say that it'll take forty seconds to get to the Moon, that's no time for an explanation."

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"It takes a little longer than that."

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"...Timothy?"

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"Yeah?"

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"Muggles can't see Dementors."

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"Really? Why the fuck isn't that mentioned anywhere - 

 

- I can have Ister splash them all with red paint -"

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"If you can control him that precisely I guess. It's mentioned it's just kind of obscure... I'm not sure the paint will work, they can't see the cloaks or anything..."

"What is a Muggle?" asks Treeleess.

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"People who can't do my world's particular kind of magic. It seems to relevantly apply to daeva; you can't, for instance, make our broomsticks work."

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"What's to make work?" asks the other fairy. "Brooms are things you brush across the floor to clean up, right? I mean, I don't see why fairies would want them but -"

"You could have him put boxes around them," Miranda says, "that should work, I think."

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"I can do that, yeah. Uh, how far is it to the Moon, how much will I have the chance to explain along the way?"

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"We can go slower if that means getting an explanation," says Treeleess mildly.

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" - yeah, fair. Okay. In my world some people are magic-users; I am one. Magic users are very powerful and can do some scary stuff; for that reason we have yet to tell anyone in our world about summoning, we want to make sure we have a plan so daeva aren't exploited and nobody gets hurt. Magic users keep their existence a secret from ordinary humans, who we call Muggles; this is aided by the fact they can't see some magic effects. The spell I just cast is spectacularly pleasant to experience and lets me control the target; I have never cast it on anyone who didn't give informed consent in advance, and some people find it pleasant and have requested it. It is possible to cast without consent, though, and there are definitely magic users who would use that or other spells to get a daeva to agree to a deal you wouldn't want to agree to, so we're not sharing the knowledge of how to do summons, though we're going to do them ourselves to solve some really glaring problems. Like this one. Questions?"

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"How does this complicate the task? I'm going to be moving what look like empty boxes?"

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"Yeah. If we couldn't box 'em you wouldn't be able to see them, and then presumably couldn't move them."

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"Well, we can't see air, but invisible creatures sound harder..."

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"We can try to peel one off for testing. I think boxes will work, just require some coordination."

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"I'd expect stealing a Dementor to attract the same kind of attention as stealing them all."

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"Might. The main impediment to our being interrupted is that you can't Apparate there, not that we'll go unnoticed, but it'd have to be a very quick check -"

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"For how far around? You're not going to be right on the island."

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"Most of the way to the mainland, there'd be breakouts otherwise."

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"Okay, that's probably good enough."

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"I have contingency plans but they involve antagonizing the Ministry more than is probably optimal."

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"You may need your political capital later."

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"Exactly. Also, there's 'doing things and the Ministry deciding not to ask too many questions' and there's 'de-facto coup' and I know what side of the line I want to be on."

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"Admit it, you'd find a coup entertaining on some level."

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"I'd have the time of my life. And if it turns out to be necessary later I will always regret overthrowing the government at twenty-five instead of at seventeen. But - it's not going to be necessary, I was all set up to do it without any blood spilled and without any extraworldly powers at all...."

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"This is going to make a terribly interesting story when I get home," comments the fairy formerly nude.

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"Delighted to provide. Okay, we are currently in the magic castle where I attend school, and need to sneak out, I'm going to make us invisible and take us to the nearest window and you can get us to the Moon from there?"

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"...I'm not sure we can move you invisible any more than we can move invisible monsters," comments Treeleess.

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"If I'm visible and holding Ister's hand, and you three are invisible?"

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"I'm sure we'll be able to move ourselves fine. The demon would be harder. Maybe if he was holding one of our hands."

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"Okay, he'll do that. If that doesn't work I can cancel part of the charm, give you a visible square on his head or something -"

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"I mean, that would work but it wouldn't be comfortable, I might wind up dragging him by the square."

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"Let's see if you can do it holding his hand." Disillusionment Charms all around.

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"- yeah," reports Treeleess's voice, "I can move him."

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"Great." And he opens the door and they are in a magic castle. The portraits, only seeing him, barely stare.

 

Ister will stick quietly with his fairy because that's what Timothy wants him doing.

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Ister is quiet and cooperative. (Cam calls out a dose and a drug name for Ister's use in incapacitating people.) The fairies don't call attention to themselves.

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Here's a window.

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Well, is he going to open it or do the fairies have to figure out the latch or break it?

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He will open the window!

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And out they go!

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To the Moon. He is very excited.

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The moon happens not to be out right now so first they go halfway around the world real fast! The air around them doesn't stir. (Before they go halfway around the world real fast they have a conversation about division of labor and Treeleess is moving everything except for the other fairy.)

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It is really exciting.

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Oh look the moon!

Now the moon is getting bigger real fast here they are it's the moon!

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He is laughing. "Wow. That was amazing. Okay -" Ister is going to make precisely the Moon prison Cam designed -

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And here it is, Elf-friendly demonic arcologies.

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They are kind of absurdly pretty, wow. He blinks admiringly for a little while. "Okay! Now, prisoners fetched and brought here, Cam gave you the specifics on precisely where, right? And dementors boxed and fetched and dropped off a distance away that is exceedingly inconvenient for them...."

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"You're going to have to point me at the island," Treeleess says as they rocket back towards the Earth and around to the relevant edge of the Atlantic.

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Gosh this is amazing. 

He points her at the island.

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"...I don't see an island there."

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"Well. That's going to be inconvenient. I'm going to have Ister make something on the island, check if you can see that..."

Ister should do that -

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Ister makes the requested colorful smoke.

"Nope," says the fairy who never introduced himself.

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"Let me see if I can get the outlines of it -" what if he just blankets the whole place in colored smoke -

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"...There's a little there -"

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Wider surrounding area -

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"I can just grab everything in that radius?"

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" - yeah, great, do that, if you move it out of the way of the magic I bet you'll be able to see it fine -"

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"I'll pick it up, you stop the water from all falling in at once and make room for me to put it down -"

"Okay -"

The island of Azkaban and a considerable amount of surrounding ocean in a neat cylinder lift into the air. A similar quantity of water moves over to fill the gap; the island drops in the space left behind.

"Wow. Invisible island," comments the erstwhile nude fairy.

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"I take it you can see it now?"

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"Yeah. So we take apart the building and I take the humans to the moon, and the demon boxes the invisible monsters and she takes them to space?"

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"Yep!" The Dementors are, of course; quite visible to him; they're also quite riled up.

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The building comes apart in chunks, floor by floor. Humans are zoomed away from it and floated in the air away from the island.

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Fairies are so cool. He wants Ister to make boxes, there, there and there - there, there, and there - over there....

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Ister contentedly boxes horrifying nightmare creatures. Treeleess moves a box as soon as the first one appears. "Monster come with okay?" she asks.

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It does. "Yep!" Box box box -

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The boxes are lined up neatly in the sky. "How many of these things are there?" The prison is completely demolished now.

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"Less than a hundred - " box box -

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"I think that's all the prisoners?" asks the other fairy. "Is this all of them?"

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Ister can make little models of any prisoners still in Azkaban -

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There's a dungeon level!

"Great," sighs the fairy with the prisoners. He gets altitude so he can see into the dungeon without getting near the dementors and collects the last few humans. Then it's off to the moon.

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And all the Dementors are boxed!

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"Where do you want me to put you?" Treeleess asks.

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"Near the place we left from, I'll wait there for you so Ister can make you the rest of your stuff..."

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So, trailing many boxes of Dementor, she zooms them back toward Hogwarts.

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Which is good timing because there are people flying towards where Azkaban used to be and it'd be mildly inconvenient if they recognized him.

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She puts the boxes high up so they don't inconvenience random Scots, drops Timothy off, and zips into space.

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He writes Cam a note. It says 'Azkaban dismantled, no one lost their wands'.

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Cam may be presumed pleased about this.

Treeleess is back first, then her conspecific.

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"Hey! Thanks so much. Ister can make the rest of your stuff now."

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The fairies collect their stuff.

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"Thanks again! Should I grab you again if I have more projects?"

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"Honestly I just took a summons because I thought it might get me pants quicker than going home," says the unnamed fairy.

"Sure," says Treeleess.

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Fairies can go home.

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Bye fairies!

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Ister can stop being a delightful instrument of Timothy's will.

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"This is the best trip ever," comments Ister.

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"I am really glad! I should get back to school before someone wonders if my disappearance is related to the dismantling of Azkaban. Have a nice day!"

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"I will!"

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He Apparates to the edge of the grounds and then walks in. 

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Nobody troubles him particularly.

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Back to Milliways, as he goes sending Michael a note telling him where to find them.

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He meets him at the top of the stairs. "What's going on -"

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Door closed - "lot of things. Most notably I just dismantled Azkaban and relocated all the prisoners to the Moon and I want to teach you how to summon demons."

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"Ah huh." He looks around.

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"Hi," says Cam.

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"That's a demon," says Miranda helpfully.

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"- like, the Muggle religious thing?"

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"Our English terminology borrows from the mythology. If it's distracting you can call me an apsel or a maker or whatever."

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"I am not super attached to the Muggle religious thing, it's just - it'd have other implications - nice to meet you -"

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"Nice to meet you too. I did go through a period of finding it hilarious to announce that I'd died and gone to Hell but it did not happen because I had done anything wrong or antagonized any monotheistic deities, nor cause any psychological changes."

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"What the fuck, Timothy."

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"I know!!!! Thank you!"

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"So how do I summon a demon?"

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"Do you want the four credit university course or the connect-the-dots."

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"I would like to know what a credit and a university are, and also a connect-the-dots if that has a meaning beyond the obvious."

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" - he's also from 2179."

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"What the fuck, Timothy."

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"I love you too."

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"A university is an institution of higher Muggle education. It confers a credential when a certain number of units of education crudely metricized in 'credits' are accumulated. Connecting dots is exactly what it sounds like although it would to someone of my cultural context also evoke a childhood activity sort of analogous to painting by numbers if you have that."

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"Why am I summoning a demon?"

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"I'm setting you two up because I think it'll be cute."

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"Okay. Then I think I'll skip the Muggle university course for now."

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Cam hands him a piece of paper with most of a circle on it and a pen.

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"There's an outdoors."

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"Thanks," he says to Cam. "You owe me, like, several favors," he says to Timothy.

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"You owe me several fewer favors than you did this morning," he says serenely. 

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"If she's tone-deaf then next time I am going to make you date your own damn demon."

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"She's a very musical demon. What kind of brother do you think I am?"

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"The kind without enough evaluative ability to tell if people are musically talented."

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"She invented a musical instrument."

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"Wait, really? That's amazing - do you have one around - do you have the next four hundred years of music around, actually -"

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"I could make one but getting her to show you is probably a good icebreaker. Same with the last four hundred years of music."

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"Okay." He takes the rolled up paper and heads outside. The door closes.

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He giggles.

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"If you were ever wrong you'd be really annoying, you know."

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"Oh, I know."

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He finds a nice spot by the lake.

 

He completes the dots.

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There is a pause.

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...it is possible that Timothy was playing a joke.

 

He briefly indulges annoyance with Timothy for putting this much effort into a joke too high-content to be very comedically satisfying.

But, no, if Timothy decided to try to convince him that you could summon demons from 2179, Timothy had a reason for that, and most reasons Timothy might want to try to convince him of this are just as implausible as it being possible to summon demons from 2179.

He sighs. 

He investigates the piece of paper.

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It asserts that he is summoning the demon Amriac under the following limitations on her behavior and then there's several paragraphs of futuristic legalese wrapped around the circle.

Then there's a demon.

"I'm just having all the luck lately," she says, "hello, what can I do for you?"

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"What the fuck, Timothy," he says aloud. "Uh, hi. Are you in fact a demon from 2179?"

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"I'm Amriac. It says in the circle. Timothy was the last person in a silly outfit to summon me. Of course I'm a demon - were you expecting somebody else? Can you read? - but don't let's quiz me on Earth calendars."

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"I was kind of expecting nothing to happen, actually. Timothy is my brother. He sent me a note this evening that was like 'hey come meet me on the fifth floor in that hallway that branches round the Astronomy tower and looks out on the Quidditch pitch' and then I went there and he was like 'I just dismantled Azkaban and sent everyone to the Moon and I want you to summon a demon' and he used to be the sensible member of the family. If it falls to me I'm going to be really bored. Nice to meet you. I'm Michael."

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"The what pitch? Dismantled the who? Why'd he want you to summon me?"

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"Quidditch pitch - are you a Muggle demon? I have absolutely no idea why he wanted me to summon you but apparently you invented a musical instrument and I would very much like to hear it, and also just generally the last four hundred years of musical history, Timothy wouldn't know how to fake that so it rules out this being a convoluted prank of his."

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"Am I a what demon?" she asks, sounding as though she is considering being offended.

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"Muggle. As in, not magic?"

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"Demons are all magic, kiddo."

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" - Quidditch is a game played on broomsticks, with animated magic balls that try to knock the players off their broomsticks while they use other balls to try to score. I am kind of surprised they don't play it in Hell, it's super fun."

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"...broomsticks? Magic balls?"

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"...yeah? They're called Bludgers, they're iron and like this big and they've just got a really simple homing enchantment on them so they'll fuck up whoever's closest to them but I think these days they also layer on a bunch of anti-cheating charms. Are you not allowed to have fun in Hell."

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"The fuck have you been smoking?"

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"This is one hundred percent my brother's fault and I should just drag him out here to close the inferential disconnect, whatever it is, but I am sure he is quietly giggling and waiting for me to do that so I'd prefer to not, if we can think of another way around it. Is the problem here that you don't believe me, would it help if I demonstrated, or is the problem something else..."

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"I have one hundred percent no idea what you are talking about. Last time Parlor LARP summoned me he wanted some Elf's complete works and some old romance novels and now you're summoning me and you maybe want a sphereflute but you're talking like a crazy person and anyway you couldn't play a sphereflute."

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"Bet you I can. ...Elf? Parlor LARP?"

 

He sighs.

 

He pulls a sheaf of parchment out of his robes. He pulls a quill out. He says to the quill, very irritably, "Minor Finis Way, please slap our brother and then come out here and tell me what the fuck is going on beyond the unhelpful things I was already told about what was going on."

The quill dutifully writes this on the parchment. He pulls out his wand and taps it. It folds into a paper airplane and flies off towards the building.

"May I please have a sphereflute and an explanation of how to play it, while we're waiting?"

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...She's busy boggling at the flying parchment.

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"It's going to get my little brother so he can explain things. He'll be more irritating than Timothy about it but at least it wasn't all his fault to begin with."

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"And here I was planning to blame Cam for everything because I know he's involved somehow and I didn't even mention sphereflutes to Parlor LARP. What did you just do - you can't be a fairy, you summoned me -"

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"Is Cam the shirtless dude, cleanshaven, short hair, wings and a tail, hanging out inside with my brothers and my father and the thirteen-year-old girl Timothy considers his protegé and Minor wants to marry?"

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"...I have no idea who the thirteen year old girl is or whether Minor wants to marry her. Cam is one of like a hundred million demons meeting that description except for the part about his location which I can't personally confirm. He looks like this?" Photo of Cam with a violin. "And I am ninety five percent sure he wrote that song Timothy paid me with because it's a fucking violin sonata and does that thing with the key change that he always does."

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He blinks. "How'd you do that? Yeah, that's the dude hanging out inside. He gave me the piece of paper and offered to give me a university course on summoning but I didn't want to wait that long to get to the music."

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"Iiiii'm aaaaa deeeemon," she says slowly. "Okay then he's definitely in on whatever this is, I'm giving him a piece of my mind -" She turns the photo over in her hand and starts appearing words on it without the benefit of a dictation quill.

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"I don't know anything at all about demons!!!! I didn't know they existed until this afternoon!"

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"Are you people like Amish or something."

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"No! Oh, thank God - is that an offensive thing to say around a demon -" - because Minor is heading over.

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"I do not care," says Amriac, rolling her eyes.

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He trots over. "Hi, Michael."

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"I hope you slapped him really hard. Go on -"

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He glances at the circle. "Hi, Amriac! Make a model of the surroundings of the Tower of London in the world where Michael and Timothy and I are from, and then the surroundings of the Tower of London in the world that you are accustomed to being summoned to."

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"What is with you people and models of British locations. I have not even been offered anything."

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"I am offering an explanation of what is going on."

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"Telling me to make Tower of London models is not an explanation!" she says, angrily brandishing the photo which now has Letter to Cam: Cam you fuckhead written on the back of it.

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"The models will be explanatory."

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"What're we supposed to be offering her?"

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"All kinds of stuff, they can't make anything magic."

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"I don't even know what the Tower of London is supposed to look like! If fucking aliens landed on the Tower of London and that explains everything I will not be able to tell the spaceship from human architecture!"

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"There are multiple Earths. We are from one almost four hundred years behind the one you're accustomed to. Making stuff from each of them will at least confirm that they're different, and I don't know which things are definitely still around in 2179 but the Tower of London would be, and you can probably distinguish between preindustrial human buildings and modern human buildings." 

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She frowns, and then makes a couple of mini Moons instead of Towers, and squints at them. "...okaaaaay..."

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"Our world has different magic than the magic on the Earth you're used to, and no one knows about summoning. Michael, demons can make any non-magic stuff. People usually summon them to ask for stuff in exchange for, like, music or media or whatever. There're also angels, who can change stuff, and fairies, who can move stuff and are what Timothy used to dismantle Azkaban and put everyone on the Moon."

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"That was four sentences. Do you have any idea how much trouble Timothy could have saved me just by saying those four sentences."

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"Demons and angels and fairies are indestructible, we haven't checked against the Killing Curse. They get summoned under bindings so they can't go around causing havoc. You're supposed to offer her something in exchange for the musical instrument and the complete musical works of the last four hundred years, if that's in fact what you wanted. Once you agree on a deal then she can make it for you."

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"Four more useful sentences."

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"I think that's it. Have fun."

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He picks up a rock. He mutters something at the rock. It speeds off towards the building.

 

Minor trots off after it.

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"...so you want a sphereflute? You still can't play it."

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"I want every kind of musical instrument that was invented in the last four hundred years but the one you invented personally would be a really great start. Can you show me how it's played? I might be able to design a charm for it, if the problem is just that you have to be able to make nonmagical stuff."

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She makes a Quaffle-sized ball in multicolored metal with holes in it. Music plays. She occasionally passes it from hand to hand, once when a particularly open chord plays she tosses it.

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He looks utterly delighted and transfixed. "You're - making air for it?"

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"Yup!"

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"Darling brother, you," he says to his quill, "are forgiven for everything except wasting her time." Tap-paper-airplane. 

 

"That's amazing."

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"It's not the first use of the idea, but it's one of the most compact and it's more fun than sitting at an organ or just cheating at bagpipes." Toss, catch.

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Awestruck contentment. 

 

"- I'd need a hand free to cast but it's probably not totally impossible, let me think what I can come up with. Who wrote the song -"

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"Me. First song I wrote for sphereflute."

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"It's beautiful. Do you mind if I sing along?"

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"...you don't know the tune and it doesn't have lyrics."

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"I have been listening to the tune for the last few minutes and am really good at that in particular and don't have to sing words."

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"Knock yourself out then."

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He totally will! 

 

He in fact has a pretty astonishing singing voice.

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Pretty soon she is grinning as she tosses her flute around.

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Oh, good! He watches it and tries to learn the fingerings and sings along.

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It's not so much fingerings as palmings. The colors seem to be meaningful; it would otherwise be hard to tell the holes apart. There are probably several disconnected cavities inside.

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His brother has excellent judgment after all. He is - not exactly surprised. He starts trying to mentally map out the cavities.

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The song comes to an end; it was a cute little etude, probably as much proof of concept as anything else.

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"Thank you very much. That was lovely."

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She smiles at him.

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"So what do I owe you?"

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"Usually the summoner thinks of something. Most summoners don't let demons even talk."

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" - what."

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"They think we'll talk them into making unwise bargains," she says sweetly.

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"Yeah, well, I guess you might."

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"Sometimes we do!" Smirk.

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"I'm trying to think how much of four hundred years of sheet music I can even fit in my trunk, that'll sort of affect how extravagantly I can compensate you for it. Are there - lists of things I really shouldn't miss -"

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"You'd want it on paper?"

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"...there're other ways?"

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"Yeah? ...I don't remember what was invented four hundred years ago, I was mostly into landscaping when I was that young."

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"- do demons just live forever?"

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"Yyyyes?"

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"Can you export that? Because wow."

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"I mean, when humans die they go to Limbo, which sucks but then they don't die again. Unless they're like Cam. That fuckhead." She picks up her letter in progress and adds you could have wrote me. Fuck you. Love and kisses, Amriac.

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"- how'd Cam get to be a demon?"

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"I never actually asked how he died exactly but he does sometimes think he's being real funny saying 'speaking as a murder victim'."

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"No, I mean as opposed to going to - Limbo?"

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"Oh. I dunno, there's probably a reason."

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"Timothy probably has all that stuff handled. - okay so what ways of representing music not on paper are there?"

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"My circle is gonna get crowded if you don't at least pretend to pay me for something that can cover all the things I might be making."

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"You can't leave until we agree on something? Fuck, I'm sorry - no one mentioned - will you please make me music from the future in exchange for whatever you want if it's mine to give away, is that sufficient -"

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"You're a very silly summoner," she tells him. "Deal." And she stretches her wings past the borders of the circle and hands him an object. "These jobbies are the best for sheet music, you just prop them up and think at them and don't have to push buttons or turn pages, you have to teach it how you think at things though."

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"Think at them? That's amazing - why am I a very silly summoner -"

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Amriac boops his nose. "What do you think people normally pay demons with - when we can make whatever we like - that they might not have told your kid brother about?"

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"I live in a dormitory, you'd need to make us some place."

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...She laughs.

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"And if you were to demand literally all my stuff then I could tell everyone that I lost all my stuff to a beautiful demon who invented a new instrument, in exchange for music from the future, and that'd be a story worth significantly more than all my stuff."

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She laughs harder. "You're adorable."

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"You are everything I could possibly hope for from a demon I summoned because my brother said to without any explanation whatsoever."

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"I wonder why he did that. Last time he summoned me for the romance novels and the complete works of the Elf he traded me a magic bag and told me he'd made it with parlor tricks, which was obvious bullshit even when I didn't know what else it could've been."

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"The complete works of the elf?"

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"There's this world with Elfs. Elves? There's this world with an Elf population. He wanted to spy on one of 'em, don't ask me why."

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Shrug. "He's going to take over the world. Not that I object, it's pretty poorly run, but - don't ask me to keep track of which of his miscellaneously nefarious purposes any given action serves. I'd suspect this was because he wanted arbitrary material stuff and could hardly charm a demon himself, but he already has a demon - your friend -"

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"'Has' him? What's he paying Cam in?"

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"Uh. No idea, actually."

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"And he didn't ask Cam for the romance novels, apparently. He didn't even have a computer then, he got me to make him one. Yours is nicer, Timothy was getting on my nerves."

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"Awww, thank you. I'm assuming he would have needed Cam for the putting people on the Moon? By default people can't live on the Moon."

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"Maybe Cam was busy making moon arcologies," agrees Amriac. "Although they wouldn't be very big ones, I don't see any on the model." She peers at her model, rolls it along the grass.

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He gestures at it and it bounces animatedly around their feet for a minute. "Anyway, we probably shouldn't tell people about summoning so maybe he just didn't want to be doing it all himself? It's also possible he just knew the music would make me really happy but he's a bit Slytherin for that to be it."

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"A bit what now?"

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"The wizarding school in Britain sorts children into four houses after the four Founders. Slytherin, for the ambitious; Gryffindor, for the courageous, Ravenclaw, for the curious, Hufflepuff, for the devoted. By reputation Slytherin's - where you start if you're eventually going to take over the world. Though obviously it is not the case that a fourth of the children of magical Britain are going to take over the world, and you can also be in Slytherin if you're just - the sort of person who gets what you want."

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"So it's a glorified personality test, okay."

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"A magic hat does the sorting. I don't know what a personality test is."

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"Oh, you answer little multiple choice questions and then receive a label. It's silly."

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"Ah. Houses're where you live for seven years of your life - and if we go to Limbo when we die no one told us, and we don't live that long - so people take them pretty seriously." He fiddles with his computer.

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It has a tutorial for him to train it to respond to his thoughts.

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Can he do that while talking with his demon.

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If he's good at dividing his attention!

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He can manage tracking a dot around the screen while they talk. "Actually I bet we don't go to Limbo, if there's some way to verify it, because if there were my dad'd be happy and he was just sitting in a corner with an enormous amount of weird future stuff."

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"This is a really nepotistic operation you have going."

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"Well, obviously we can't teach most wizards summoning so Timothy'd have just told people he can definitely trust."

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"Why can't you?" wonders Amriac.

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"There're, like, mind-control spells. I bet lots of people would find that more convenient than making deals. There're also, like, love potions, that'd sort of enable deals..."

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"Huh. Do those work on daeva? If we're not letting 'em?"

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"I have no idea but Minor said 'we don't know if the Killing Curse works' which - makes me suspect I know what Timothy would have tried."

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"What a creatively named curse. I bet it kills people. Would he have tried to kill a daeva?"

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"No, unless there are daeva who want to try dying. But it's one of the three Unforgivables and if they had a conversation Minor heard about whether the Killing Curse works on daeva they would have tried the one that does mind control. Which I don't even know how to cast, for the record, if you were wondering, I have dabbled in consensual use of love potions but you go to Azkaban for life for Unforgivables."

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"...Is that the thing he put on the moon or am I mixed up."

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"Okay, I guess you don't go to Azkaban for life anymore. Yesterday you went to Azkaban for life for Unforgivables."

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"Yesterday you went to Azkaban for a day and then you went to the moon," she corrects, amused.

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"When opportunities to learn the Unforgivable Curses arose I was under the mistaken impression that if I cast them I would go to Azkaban for life. Instead I would have gone to Azkaban until today, and now I would be on the Moon. Still doesn't seem worth it."

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"I've been summoned to a lunar colony one time. It was perfectly nice."

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"I am sure it beats Azkaban." He draws some glowing fabric out of his robes, wraps up his computer very tenderly, and tucks the package away. 

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"It's not super fragile. Why do you have magic glow fabric?"

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"Makes it not summonable off my person; it glows because I'm theatrical and I like powerful things to look powerful."

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"It won't do anybody else any good. Well, not after you've finished training it."

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"How's that work?"

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"It's an anti-demon security measure! It learns how you think and checks a million times a second to see if you're operating it and won't respond to anyone else. So if someone makes your computer they don't get what you store on it."

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"That's kind of brilliant. I will make it more applicable magic glowy fabric."

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"Oh, what else can you make glowy fabric do?"

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"Wherever I set it down it's conveniently there in my pocket the next time I want it, if anyone else tries to take it they get an animated angry one which tries to bite their nose, it changes colors every time I take it out..."

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"Why would you make it change colors?" she laughs.

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"To show off? Most spells aren't useful. We do a lot of turning kittens into dishware, and I've never had kittens and needed dishware in my life."

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"Kittens? Genuine kittens not demonic ones?"

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"There are demonic kittens?"

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"We can make kittens - or humans, if we like - but we can't make minds, they come out really stupid. There are proper animals in Hell but they're precious, we can't just replace them if something happens."

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"Huh. - I guess that's sort of better than if you could make humans normally -"

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"Tell that to the people who really like kids."

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"Demons show up as adults?"

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"Yup. The only time a kid would be in Hell would be if they died and became a demon."

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"Can they, like, take a summons and hang out on Earth and raise kids..."

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"I think some angels get to do that but people don't trust demons, remember?"

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"...okay but I could do it. Go to some of the more horrible Muggle orphanages..."

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"Oh, wow, they're probably horrid four hundred years ago, aren't they."

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"My impression is yeah."

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"That'd be nice then. I don't know if I like kids, I don't watch much television."

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"What's that?"

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"Uh, like plays but recorded."

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Nod. "...so what do you actually want, this is lovely but if you're going to want to go shopping we should probably leave for that pretty soon, I have class in the morning."

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"Ooh, shopping, I've never been shopping, that's a good idea, they probably sell magic things for money!"

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"Magic money that you - uh, would've gone to Azkaban for counterfeiting, I don't know what is going to happen to crime-committing people now. But I have plenty of it."

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"The money is magic? Not fair." Pout.

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"We can make stuff too, you know. Not nearly as versatile but duplicating something you have is pretty trivial. ...you could probably go sell the banks lots of gold or silver in exchange for money, though, I bet they'd take that."

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"They can't duplicate it?"

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"I will snag Aaron on our way out and ask him how that works, he'd know and I have only vague ideas."

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"Who's that?"

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"Yet another brother. I have six."

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"Wow. Any sisters?"

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"Nah."

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"Magic or just a run of very masculine luck?"

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"Magic. I don't know what Hell is like in 2179 but in 1784 you'd rather a son than a daughter."

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"Why?"

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"- you just get taken a little more seriously? You can exercise poor judgment a little more and people don't hold it against you? We have a woman for Minister of Magic now but she's the first one, up until then they were all men... or do you mean why is that the case, in that case the answer is 'I have no idea.'"

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"Huh. Anyway I totally want to go shopping that sounds amazing. You're very silly and I am not a bit going to take advantage of how very silly you are." Nose boop.

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"I would be delighted to take you shopping and still fail to see how I have been even the slightest bit silly."

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"You can't get rid of me till I've been paid and you made a very open-ended deal which means you can't get rid of me till I've got whatever I decide I want. Some people would be very nasty with that."

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"And Timothy wouldn't have set me up with them. And I am not in a terrible hurry to get rid of you."

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"I suppose I didn't give him a mountain of punch cards when he was silly. Probably Cam's gone telling everyone that I'm not actually dangerous, phooey."

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"Would you prefer to have a reputation for being actually dangerous?"

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"Oh, I don't know, I suppose people wouldn't leave me loopholes to have any fun then."

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"It's - not actually that Timothy wouldn't do this if you were dangerous. He wouldn't do it if I'd regret trusting him afterwards but that was astonishing music and you're fascinating and I have a whole four hundred years of songs and - I like having interesting things happen. You would have to do an awful lot to make me wish I'd done anything differently."

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"You like my etude that much? Awww."

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"It was clearly just meant to show off the potential of the instrument but it did it so well!"

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She giggles. And then flings her wings around him and kisses him.

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...he is mildly surprised! But not at all bothered, definitely. He laughs. He kisses her back.

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And then she twirls and scoops up her flute and says, "Shopping? Since you're in a hurry, and all."

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"Yes. Shopping." Milliways-ward -

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Where she spots Cam and hurls her flute at his head. It clonks.

"Ow!" He doesn't catch it; it falls to the floor and rolls away.

"That was really confusing you jerk!"

"I'm sorry?"

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He has a rock circling around his head occasionally booping him on the nose. "It was really all my fault," he tells her cheerfully. "I do apologize."

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"Congratulations on picking someone with beautiful music despite not having the slightest discernment yourself! Okay, if you went to the Moon I assume there's a faster way to get to London than flying -"

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"I summoned a fairy. Which is still flying, I think, technically. Why're you going to London?"

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"We're going shopping! We might rob an orphanage but only if we're really getting carried away, I was planning to save that for the weekend."

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"I don't even know if I know anybody who wants kids," says Amriac.

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"If you don't know anyone it should wait, I'd be no good at doing on the fly interviews for it - Timothy -"

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" - time's not passing while we're in the Bar, I am going to figure out how to make things a lot better for Muggles within six months as actually experienced, I'm not opposed to having lots of demons raising lots of Muggle orphans if there're demons who want to do that but it's not morally urgent -"

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"Why didn't you tell me that, that means we don't have to go shopping right now if I'm to make it to class tomorrow."

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"There was a lot to tell and I thought you'd get impatient with me and leave."

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"You don't have an excuse," Amriac tells Cam. "You could've written."

"I honestly did not know that you would become bothersomely confused."

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"We've been busy figuring out how to fix up my world without endangering, well, everybody."

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"- does the Imperius work on them -"

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"Yeah."

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"I'm not going to hurt your girlfriend."

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"- you're my least favorite brother, you know that?"

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"I am wounded to the core."

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" - so," he said to Amriac, "we can go shopping now but apparently we can also save it."

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"I'm not in a hurry, you were in a hurry. What's the Imperius?"

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"The mind-control spell I mentioned."

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"How did you even test that. Cam have you been fucking with mind control magic. How do you even know these people."

"I spent several years in the world with the Elves and it has alternate universe versions of them - well, not Miranda over there - and then walked in here and there was Timothy and it went from there."

"Have you been fucking with mind control magic."

"A little but it was mostly Ister."

"Is that the literature curator or the -"

"The dancer."

"Oh, him."

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"Some people really enjoy the mind control magic!"

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"What did I ever do to you."

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"Sorry. I have a six-page summary written up for distribution to interested parties, there's a twenty-page one with some information elided from the shorter version for security reasons and some other information elided for personal ones, there're appendices with proposals for Muggle infrastructure solutions which you're welcome to add to, if you have questions about pages six through nine in particular direct them to me. That better?"

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"If Amriac wants to steal your notes then I guess she'll do that. Is there other really important stuff I'd really want to know -"

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"Yes. Read it."

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"- okay."

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Amriac hands Michael a little chip.

"- is that a lockable -" begins Cam.

"Yeah?"

"Amriac these are magic people he could have had weird brain anatomy -"

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"Sorry, what?"

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"Congratulations you have received experimental brain surgery. Amriac."

"Why would being magic make his brain different?" exclaims Amriac.

"Why couldn't it?"

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"I didn't realized I'd received brain surgery at all -"

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"Brains don't have nerves of the kind that experiences sensation, you wouldn't have felt it. And apparently you are fine. So far."

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"Wizards're generally harder to kill than Muggles."

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"I believe that you are generally tougher and more disease-resistant but I do not believe that you are immune to conditions like 'misplaced bit of metal appearing in your brain' and you are really lucky that it seems not to have been misplaced! I'd been meaning to get around to trying some scans but hadn't yet."

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"Okay. Well. It's a cool computer. I think I got a very good deal, even if she keeps muttering otherwise."

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"What've you been muttering about, Amriac?"

"Oh, I can do whatever I like with him."

"...okay. I wouldn't have recommended you if I thought you were dangerous, but, y'know."

"Also you did that thing with the key change again."

"It was technically a draft."

"You weren't going to fix it."

"No, not really."

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"Can I hear it?"

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"You want me to play it? She has a recording, Timothy paid her with it."

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"Either way - do recording songs sound as good as the real thing -"

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"Yeah. If you use good sound equipment. Sometimes better if they're nicely edited."

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"It won't work in Hogwarts because Hogwarts is stupid."

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"Speaking of the risks of experimental brain surgery!"

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"Oh, does it run on electricity? Minor's always going on about electricity -"

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"It doesn't have an internal power source, it responds to the electrical signals that already exist in brains, but if Ister's chip broke when he ran through Hogwarts he can dissolve it with acid and wait fifteen minutes and then put in a new one and if yours breaks who the fuck knows what happens to you so let's hope it's totally fine."

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"I'll write him and ask."

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Nod. Sigh.

"...Hogwarts?" says Amriac. "Is this in English or -"

"Yep."

"But that's stupid."

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"It was named a thousand years ago, maybe it sounded less stupid then."

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"Not really," says Finis absently.

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"What do you mean you know Elf versions of these guys anyway."

"I mean the guy whose complete works you made for Timothy looks and generally is just like him except for being another species and older and so on, complete with family tree."

"So there's another Michael too?"

"Yeah, his name's Macalaurë."

"...I've heard of him the entire orchestra was going through the Elf stuff -"

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"There's an alternate universe version of me with famous compositions? Tiiiimothy!"

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"He's really good, too!" chirps Amriac.

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"Of course he is. - and he's an Elf?"

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"Different kind of Elf."

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Amriac makes a little speaker and puts on one of the symphonies.

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He listens, enraptured and with a complex mix of emotions on his face. 

"- I couldn't do that -"

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"He's thousands of years old. You'll get there."

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"Thousands of - I'm not okay with having alternate universe versions of me who are better than me!"

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"How old are you?" wonders Amriac.

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"Sixteen."

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"Awwww." Pat pat.

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"I'm not a demon or a some-new-kind-of-Elf, I don't have thousands of years to get better than him!"

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"Well, you have now summoned a daeva and if you're lucky you will turn into one when you die."

"Oh, is that how it happens?" asks Amriac.

"I think so. Never heard of a summoner Limboite."

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"Well, that'd be all right, then. - he's really good, I'd be so moved if I didn't now have to be better than that -"

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"Elves have a very musical baseline."

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"You should really call 'em something other than Elves, it's weird."

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Shrug. "Quendi, if you like."

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"Less weird." He puts the chip in his computer and reads. 

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Amriac makes her own computer and props it up on the bar and scoops up her flute and tootles aimlessly on it while she likewise catches up with the goings-on.

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There is a summary of daeva and what they do, things that have been tried (spells affect daeva fine, they wake up fast from stunning, the Imperius works on them), things pending (do dead summoners from this world become daeva), things to avoid and contingency plans if they happen.

There is a summary of Milliways and what is known about it so far.

And there is an account of the war in Arda, impoverished only by the omission of the fact that Elves can be resurrected without their chips.

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"Holy infinite void, Cam," says Amriac.

Flinch.

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"We're really lucky it was him, aren't we."

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"The you's going to be all fucked up."

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"The me was apparently already kind of fucked up, I actually mean to ask him a lot of questions."

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"After you give him a hug, though, right, because - fuck."

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"Yeah."

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"Cam."

"I don't really want to talk about it."

"You were giving me grief about chipping Michael!"

"...Sorry."

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"Actually that seems super reasonable. It'd be hypocritical of him to get on you about murdering Michael to stop hundreds of millions of people being tortured but 'check on a demonic person first' is just common sense, which we don't have to abandon because bad things happened."

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"If checking a basement dweller would reliably work I would've done it already, it won't, the problem being that you are magic and not that you are aliens," murmurs Cam.

Amriac makes an irritated noise.

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"I mean, you could also go with 'he can never criticize anyone for anything ever again'."

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"Timothy."

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"The bar takes counterfeit, if you want to delay your shopping expedition to be sad."

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That perks Amriac up. She peers at the bar. She is offered a free drink. It is apparently distractingly delicious.

Cam goes and curls up on a sofa by the fire.

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He'll have a drink too.

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Paper airplane floats over. Sorry, it says, I should've shooed them to read. Would you like a massage, there's a spell for it.

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Cam is unsure how to reply to paper airplanes but tries writing on the reverse side That sounds interesting.

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Cam can presumably make paper airplanes of his own in Timothy's reach if he wants, but Timothy can fetch them back too. 

 

And he can cast a massage spell from here.

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It's interesting.

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I apologize for the not-mentioning-you-can-resurrect-them, it's kind of necessary to leave out but makes it sound worse.

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Cam does not want to appear paper airplanes over there while he is curled up and can't see and accordingly can't aim very well. He continues the writing-on-the-back strategy. It made sense.

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And it hurt you, so I'm sorry.

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Thanks.

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You have the right to expect people to treat you decently.

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I have the right to stop interacting with Amriac if she makes me miserable but that's not the same thing.

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And not what I was saying.

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I do not think I actually agree with what you're saying, then.

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Well, I'm probably not going to convince you over paper airplanes.

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Probably.

The spell is nice, it's better than the chairs that do the same thing.

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Any time. I appreciate all the making-us-stuff.

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You're welcome.

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The bar has fantastic taste in drinks. "Do you do music recommendations as well? From the whole multiverse?"

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I am much better at comestibles but I can try to help you narrow down the selection given some information about your taste.

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"Is there more stuff by mes?"

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I cannot directly verify althood without meeting the individuals.

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"Okay, fair enough. Is there more stuff in the style of, uh, Macalaurë's -"

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Other works from the same world will share some influences.

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"Right, okay. How about something completely different from my Earth or the other Earth or Hell or Arda - but from some universe with humans, so it's at least in a range we can hear -"

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Unlike a demon I can't do format conversion, but - She offers an object which is presumably some kind of recording.

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"Thanks!!!!!!"

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You're welcome.

Amriac curiously converts the thing and puts it on. It's weird.

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"Huh. - yours is nicer, despite there not being much reason for demons and humans to have the same musical taste."

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"My Earth didn't know about daeva for a long time but daeva knew about them, and demons in particular have been able to swipe their stuff, especially since writing got popular. And daeva are psychologically pretty much human-range."

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"You seem a lot nicer."

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"Humans eventually suck less and then a while after that get very goody-goody, Don't tell 'em about transfiguration."

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"Is that the thing with the kittens," says Amriac. "That's just wasteful."

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"It's not like there's a shortage of kittens. Cats have large litters."

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"Well, I bet demonic kittens would work just as well."

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"Yeah, probably, but then we'd have to explain demons."

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"Oh, couldn't you just say you made stupid cats by magic?"

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"That'd be pretty impressive magic, if I did it from scratch instead of just making a normal cat stupid. I guess I could say I was trying to practice a new charm and now I had hundreds of brain-damaged cats, did the department want to use them."

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"Why would that be impressive?"

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"Some stuff is harder for us to make than others...something uniform throughout is pretty easy, something temporary is pretty easy, something biological and alive without ongoing magic intervention is hard, can't do food..."

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"Food? That's kind of random."

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"Magic is not a very well-understood field. Want to go back out to the lake, if we can put off shopping as long as we like?"

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"Sure." She traipses, alien music still crooning from her speaker.

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He lets the rock circling his brother's head fall to the floor, and then follows. 

 

 

"So, um - what's a black hole -"

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"You know how things fall to the ground because the planet is really heavy?"

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"- yeah -"

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"Black holes are heavier."

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"...ah."

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"People make jokes about demons holing planets - planets with humans on, I mean, in Hell it's just a few weeks' work to make a new planet if you wreck an old one - but nobody'd ever done it."

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"No one's going to be - inspired to, or anything?"

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"If nobody was inspired to by TV shows, I don't think Cam'll get anybody keen, but still!"

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"I mean, yes, that's obviously not the main problem. ...would've been why Timothy didn't ask Cam to spy on the Elf..."

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"Huh?"

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"I was wondering why he was spying on someone, and why he didn't ask the demon he had right there. But Cam could've made him something misleading so if he wanted to check -"

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"Check what?"

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"The bit about ending the war."

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"Well, I wouldn't'a covered for him but I bet Cam could've come up with somebody who would've."

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"...that's a good point."

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"If he'd written, anyway, he didn't write me." Sniff.

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"It looked like he was kind of scared of peoples' reactions, might be why he didn't write. 'hey, guess what, I killed fifty million people, also have you listened to those Elf symphonies?'"

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"Yeah, maybe."

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"Especially if people'll be mad at him." Shrug. He starts humming along to the strange alien song.

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Being strange and alien, it is hard to predict. "I'd make the sheet music but I bet the notation's weird too."

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"Yeah probably. Have people learned the Elves' notation, or are they rewriting into yours..."

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"Somebody wrote a computer program to translate. The bugs aren't all worked out but it's good enough that if you've also heard the song you can correct for it. But the program translates into one of the Hell notations, not Earth notation, so it'd have to retranslate for you to read it and that'd probably be even buggier."

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"It's okay. I will find beautiful music that doesn't make me feel bad about not being thousands of years old yet."

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She giggles. "I'd wonder if he wrote anything when he was sixteen but Elves take five hundred years to grow up, fun fact."

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"What the fuck. Okay, that mostly gets me to stop being jealous, that's - wow."

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"I know, I'm not even five hundred yet."

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"How old are you?"

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"Four hundred thirty or forty something in Earth years."

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"Cool." He waves his wand at the grass near them and flowers sprout up, unfurl iridescent silvery petals. "- can you make those -"

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"Ooh pretty -" She tries it.

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Nope, magic!

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"Oh, excellent, I'd be terribly out of my depths if I couldn't give you things." He plucks the shimmery flower. "Thank you for my computer full of music."

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Smooch. "You're welcome."

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Eeeeeeee."So do all violinist demons have whatever is agreed to be the best violin ever made, or can you do better than whatever humans have..."

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"Oh there are the most fantastic arguments. We can definitely beat conventional manufacture but of course a human who wants a really nice violin will just, you know, get a demon to make one. There's a lot of agreement on the best electric violin actually, but conventional there are a dozen serious contenders and a few cult favorites."

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"Electric violin?"

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"Ooooh right you don't know about electric string instruments! Are you a violin person or would you rather have a guitar or what -"

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"I have a violin that's three inches long but plays normally, it was a Christmas present, you should see it, it's adorable. I'd love the best violin there is, though."

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And Amriac materializes for him a sort of outline of a violin in bright peacock blue, and its wireless accessory, and a bow, and grins.

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"Wow - you're amazing - how does that even work -"

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"You play it just like a normal violin! Try it!"

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He blinks at it a few more times and then tries.

 

And beams delightedly, and tries something more complicated -

 

- after a few minutes he is crying. "It's so beautiful. It's perfect - thank you -"

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"You're so cute."

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"I think most people would react enthusiastically if someone appeared and started fulfilling all their wildest dreams!"

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"Sure, but your wildest dreams are electric violins and it's adorable!"

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"It's so beautiful. Do you mind if I just play for a while -"

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"Go for it." She flops her head into his lap, wings splayed to either side, and looks up at him expectantly.

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Okay well in that case he's going to be too distracted to play for a couple minutes. But then he'll pull it together.

 

It makes such lovely sounds.

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Amriac produces a little chip-responsive device that will produce tones in response to her thoughts and plays along when she has the gist.

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That's really cool, he writes in glittering letters in the air when he has a moment to move his wand hand.

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Makes up for my lack of singing voice, she replies in purple smoke.

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He leans down to kiss her hair and giggle and then keep playing.

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"...so what, exactly, would have gone worse if you'd warned him not to say - whatever means that she can do whatever she wants -"

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"He's going to want thousands and thousands of things, he's going to be completely insatiable, and if he tried to negotiate for them piecemeal she was going to get sick of him. Now she has 'whatever she wants' and can give it all to him as presents, and will, and they'll both have more fun, and she likes that she could hurt him and he's not frightened by it and she's not going to, so -"

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"How'd you know it was going to turn out exactly that way -"

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"I'm getting the sense you have to be either experienced or paranoid to not fuck up negotiating with daeva for things. I honestly think 'get daeva who like working with you and want to keep doing it in future' is infinitely more tractable than 'win repeated hostile interactions with a scary lose condition'. Even if he sat through the four-credit university class he'd have slipped up at something unless he was being too careful to have any fun. And screwing up once you've annoyed someone is worse."

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"Sounds about right. Are you going to try to matchmake daeva with more people like that or is everybody else going to do it differently?"

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"I do not want to be matchmade with a demon."

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"So you know perfectly well I wouldn't do it. I actually don't know what on Earth I'd need more than three demons for - maybe once we find a way to other worlds - and I doubt Ister's the only one who'd be into the Imperius, so I have no more matchmaking planned. I didn't even set up Michael so I'd have more arbitrary material object access, you know, I just wanted him to be happy."

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"Then I won't comb my notes for more of them who might work out."

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"If you happen to have some ready to go by all means introduce me, but keep in mind that the rest of my brothers are in fact still kids-"

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"You could find yourself a demon girlfriend."

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"Apparently I am terrible at relationships so I am not going to attempt them until I have a lot more information about why."

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"I would not have predicted that."

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"Yeah, me neither, I'm completely baffled. But it's not something I am okay with doing wrong, so I will wait on an explanation."

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"Is that topping the list of things we're requesting from Endorë?"

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"...it doesn't seem nearly as urgent as genetically modified crops and qualified doctors who'll work for free and interworld portals and a way to end aging if humans don't daevafy, even my grandfather doesn't expect me to get married yet. Or are you worried it's related to some other kind of failure mode I haven't noticed and should correct for before I take over the world?"

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"I was actually just thinking it probably doesn't matter what order the list is in apart from for emphasis, but if there is a gap in your supernatural people skills that does actually seem important."

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"Reading his notes and trying to guess, I think the gap in my people skills is 'the world hadn't invented murder and then the two of them had to kill twenty thousand people and had no idea how to cope with that and couldn't take a day off to develop one - couldn't, best as I can tell, take ten minutes off to develop one - because hundreds of millions of people were being tortured and many more dying every day and he does not appear to have spent a waking moment having fewer than twenty simultaneous strategically essential conversations for a year and a half straight.'

So it might just be that I should avoid that situation. But I'm going to ask."

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"...Okay."

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"...is there part that should be clarified there..."

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"I just hadn't actually thought of 'did not budget time to cope' as a guess."

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"Still seems like a stupid mistake but maybe there're considerations not in the notes. Anyway, that's not absolving, if that's the answer, there's a multiverse and the stakes are going to be arbitrarily high indefinitely and skills I don't have access to under arbitrary pressure are skills I don't have."

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Nod.

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"Just being alone forever sounds like a bad solution, though."

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"Not pursuing romantic relationships and being alone forever are not the same things. As far as I know the rest of my alt's relationships did not buckle under pressure - if they had I'd be prioritizing that a lot harder -"

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"That's kind of weird in itself, though -"

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" - this is about all the discussion of this topic I'm in the mood for. Cam, what would be the best way to publicize the Imperius thing in Hell, in case we do need access to a lot of demons for some reason -"

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"- no one but you can cast it, do you think you can keep several people doing different tasks at once -"

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"Not yet, but with practice and maybe with the twenty-conversations-at-once chip thingy if it can be made to work for humans, I want the twenty-conversations-at-once chip thingy."

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"Ister will probably have some kind of shared interest group he could put you in touch with. You want the chip even with the obvious other consequences of having one? Also I still can't test brain surgery safely for wizard patients, haven't even checked Elf chips in human basement dwellers."

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"I think I'd be strictly less fun to make than an Elf, for the sort of demon who might learn how to do it and use it maliciously. And we're going to need handling - you can conjure for chips made in Hell, right, so you'd know if anyone'd figured it out -"

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"Yeah, 'in Hell' is a usable classifier. I don't see why you assume you'd be strictly less fun for a demon to make or why you're assuming demons are the only people who could do something with it."

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"Elves're prettier and don't age and if they let me have a wand for some reason I could leave and if they didn't they can't get any magic things out of it."

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"If we're assuming malicious demon captor your original species is probably irrelevant, they can make whatever they want around the chip."

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"In that case we could cure aging by chipping people and then transferring them to an Elf body - or make wizards by transferring 'em to a wizard body, maybe -"

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"Doubt very much 'wizard body' is an option because we can't make magic things but maybe it can happen as an emergent property of something. I didn't go for getting a chip in spite of all the tempting blessings, though, it's a massive vulnerability even though I can't wake up one morning to find that I have experienced biological death and my chip has been harvested."

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"Forking and someone grabbing it, are there other ways it's a vulnerability -"

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"That's enough."

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"I'm not trying to convince you to do it, but I will if it works for humans."

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"For wizards. Unless you're really keen on being the test subject."

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"I am not. But if it works for wizards - I've wanted a better memory and more attentional capacity even before I got a glimpse of what he does with it - he's so competent -"

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Nod.

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"I'll write Ister asking him about friends." He pulls out a quill and starts doing that.

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"Lemme know when you want your mail checked. Ister's mail title is 'Messages for 87712', someone was flooding his basic."

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"Thanks, good to know." Write write write. And - wand-flick to make the conversation private - "Want to have the discussion I didn't want to have over paper airplanes?"

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"...You're doing the magic privacy thing?"

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"Yeah. We can also go upstairs if you want but my room doesn't have, like, a study or anything - I should ask Bar if I can get a suite or something -"

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"Magic privacy thing is fine, I just can't actually tell when you've done it and wouldn't like to be mistaken. What did you not care to commit to paper airplane?"

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"I know a lot of terrible people. Most of the people I know, actually. I am pretty comfortable ignoring them when they offer me moral judgments, and I don't think they've contributed anything to my developing moral sensibilities, and I would like them to stop having any power over other peoples' lives.

But. 

There is something I would never do, even to the people who think hunting Muggles for sport was good character-building and a mercy since it kept 'em from starving. I would never, ever, say to them "you are such a bad person you don't get to defend yourself when I criticize you. When we disagree, you lose, because you are bad."

Do you think you're worse than they are?"

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"No. If you're saying you're nicer than Amriac I'm not particularly going to contradict you but that doesn't seem like the point you're trying to make."

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"I'm saying that if I asked Amriac I bet she doesn't endorse that either, and she doesn't realize that you all-but default to it, and the people who care about you do not in fact want to be leaping merrily on the 'you're bad so you lose' button but it's a sufficiently upsetting topic that they're not going to know how to navigate it correctly. And you'd respect their preferences better if you stopped having a 'you're bad so you lose' button."

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"I lose in a sort of - rhetorical sense. I think I have legitimately lost credibility in a way that reasonably affects the extent to which I can be taken seriously on some topics. If people want to take me seriously anyway that's nice but it isn't fair to expect it. ...You may also be overestimating how much Amriac likes me."

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"You have good judgment. You are not likelier to be wrong than you were before it happened. You lost - moral luck. I don't want peoples' credibilities to rest on that. I think any kind of functioning society worth building would be one where it is reasonable and fair to expect people to take you seriously. Existing societies, sure, probably not, but they are terrible and we're going to do better, you don't treat them as normative on any other topic -"

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"I know I am not likelier to be wrong. But it is not unreasonable to have a heuristic 'why the fuck would you take ethical or risk-management advice from somebody who killed fifty-five million innocent people as part of a bargain with an evil god', I have not earned more consideration than heuristics like that from most people, and I'm not going to hold anybody to standards of 'dispassionately examine the circumstances of all mass murder you hear about before deciding how to treat the opinions of the perpetrators' just because it might get an irregular answer for my case."

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"The content of the advice was evaluatable without any opinion at all on your credibility. And - if one is going to uplift the society with the transatlantic slave trade to the standards of 2179, which I am going to do, you've got to have a heuristic for actually terrible people that isn't 'exclude them from moral and policy discourse', if only because you can't use permanent categorical dismissal on the basis of past actions. Maybe we'll invent some kind of fucking ritual of repentance, I think that's the social function they serve, lets people do something terrible or - or be wedged into a place with something terrible in every direction - and then go on and feel justified in asking people to meet them as a stranger instead of as an instance of the worst thing they have ever done."

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"I didn't say it was permanent. I'm immortal and I holed the planet less than a year ago."

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"Okay.

 

 

- I do think it is reasonable to expect prospective rulers of the world to closely investigate the circumstances of mass murders whose perpetrators they are going to interact with. Even if you want to consider anyone else's willingness to go beyond a heuristic a - nice thing that happens, or whatever - can we agree that you deserve it from me, and have the right to expect it of me?"

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"Insofar as you plan to interact with me, yeah, I would be legitimately disappointed if you issued summary judgment on things in general and I'm not going to special-case myself."

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"Okay. That's all. Thank you."

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"...what for?"

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"Do you want a list of all the things I'm grateful to you for, because it's not like I have anywhere to be, but everyone else might wonder what I've been monologuing about for an hour straight."

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"I meant in the immediate context, although I'm separately skeptical of the hour figure."

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"Putting up with a conversation on what can't be your favorite of topics, and I'd bet with you but you're inconveniently a demon."

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"So inconvenient."

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"It means I can't get you nice presents and I derive a lot of satisfaction from getting people nice presents."

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"Well, I'm sure it's my birthday somewhere but not in any worlds we're currently concerned with."

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"I am grateful that you ended material scarcity in your world and know exactly how big a deal it is and appreciate it properly which is good because someone really ought to. Every single person living on the Moon or Mars in Revelation, or pontificating about the moral importance of elephants, is because of you and if they are not grateful then I will gather up all of the gratitude and harbor it on your behalf because it matters, so so much, and it's inspiring and the things they have invented with the tools that you handed them are now going into the hands of every single world we can find and I'm grateful for a hundred inventions I haven't even heard of yet because they'll delight me once I get around to reading of them and they'll change lives once we get around to distributing them and they happened because of you, all of them, centuries and centuries of gifts that we can scatter across the multiverse because you had the nerve to say 'yes, it'll change everything, but magic should not be a secret while people die of hunger' - and that particular sentiment is one I understand well enough to be properly grateful for it, I really do know, and I know a lot of things about the kind of person someone is from the fact they are the kind of person who notices - and doesn't immediately think 'if that were true, someone would have done it' -

I am grateful you were summoned by whatever fluke it was to Arda and that the kid didn't know enough to immediately send you back which I take it you probably wouldn't have prevented him from doing. I am grateful that when you found yourself in the middle of a war with terrifying powers and squabbling people handling the first side you met you figured out what due diligence would be and did it and structured your assistance to still achieve a lot before you'd satisfied yourself it was worth intervening.

I am grateful for how well you handled what sounds like a completely horrifying amount of constant background nightmare fuel while meeting a planetworth of political entities and having a bunch of clever insights about how to use your powers to verify oaths and taking personal responsibility for, like, everything while also interfacing constructively and usefully with the governments involved, which I have trouble doing even under way less pressure and with way more cultural knowledge of the relevant governments. I am grateful you were thoughtful and perceptive enough not to escalate, and were able to warn everyone else, and you were right about that and probably saved a billion lives by deterring attempts at nuking Angband which I take it would probably have been tried. I am grateful that when the thing to do seemed to be handing out tens of millions of suicide triggers you did that, even though it must have been hell, my alt had a note to check whether you needed any form of support or distraction in order to not burn out and concluded you didn't, you could actually just do what needed to be done, do you know how rare that is, do you know how reassuring it is to me to know that you are like that...

I am grateful that you were so careful, with the oath, that you knew who to ask for help and you worked with them and you worked thoughtfully and you did a meticulous and careful and clear-headed job on the most important problem in the universe, all in secret while people were dying. I am grateful that you trusted our alts and accepted their help and I am grateful beyond measure that you got it right, that it's over, that the war ended and the peoples are rebuilding and the torture stopped and the world is safe and you could not have known in advance that it would work out that well - you could be sure enough to do it but not completely certain and still go ahead and live with that - I am so, so glad it was you, even if it was a very altruistic person there are so vanishingly few people who would have been enough

I am grateful that we met. I am grateful that we did not meet when I was twelve and bore no particular resemblance to my Elf alt and wouldn't have been well enough positioned to fix everything right away; I am grateful that we did not meet when I was twenty and Azkaban would have existed for three more years. I am grateful that whatever you thought of my alt personally you trusted me with the things I needed to know to figure out how to pull this off, I am well aware that you had countless good reasons not to tell a wizard with yet-unspecified powers what you could do let alone what you had done and I am grateful that you did. You're better at risk-assessment than me and I'm glad, we're going to need it. I'm grateful you have a comprehensive understanding of summoning and I didn't have to waste at least a year or so getting up to the level of competence at which I'd feel comfortable with the things that I've been able to do so far, I'm grateful you have such delightful and adorable acquaintances, and so much patience with the peculiarities of my world, and so much - caution about condemning - the things we're doing that your society regards as unconscionable - I don't think that's even the unhealthy 'well I don't get an opinion I'm a mass murderer' thing, I think you're just really good at meeting people where they are in terms of understanding - I appreciate the way you explain things, you're really unreasonably excellent at it, I appreciate how infrequently I've felt like our conversations make no sense despite the vastness of the gap in expectations -"

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Well, it hasn't been an hour, so he'll keep going. "This one's probably a cultural thing but I appreciate how much effort you put into being unreadable about my inexplicable-to-my-family incompetence at romance, wasn't sure how well you knew my alt or if that sort of thing's even the same for several days and I hadn't and wouldn't have asked you to lie for me - I guessed how you'd feel about Legilimency just off how deeply and seriously you respect privacy, that and the fact that you actually take your beliefs seriously and notice and care about their implications, that's rare too and it's so hard to teach -

I am grateful for how clearly you think, just in general, you know, I wish you were less miserable but I really do believe you that you figured out how, on reflection, you wanted to feel and that you feel that and are not deceiving yourself either about your emotions or your needs, it makes it so much easier to do right by you and I really do love doing right by people, and I'm not as good as you but I'm familiar enough with the ideal to know that it's really hard to pull off even on problems much much less fraught than this one, and there you are, totally masterful at it - there are a lot of forms of trust in people but trust in someone to be who they want to be is very rare and very special and it delights me to experience it and I admire it deeply in you.

I'm grateful to have your trust. I am in general fairly flippant about my intent to take over the world and you haven't known me long enough to know I'll do good with it and haven't known him entirely in a positive light and it is fairly apparent that you're evaluating the plans on their merits but still you seem to lack the instinct that sufficiently qualified people just shouldn't have unchecked power, on principle, and I think that that trait of yours - if I'd met you just a little sooner, just somehow in time - would translate to absolutely adorable quantities of hubris and I appreciate it tremendously and am going to be patiently nudging it back into existence as much as I can because I would be doing the world a disservice otherwise. I am grateful you are entertaining protectorship of Mars because I really honestly sincerely can't imagine anyone better and I know so many people. Maitimo knows literally millions of people - knows them well, I'm not sure if that's a thing that is apparent about he and I or not but we don't form casual acquaintanceships, we walk by someone in the street and assume personal responsibility for lifting them up to the stars, and he had thousands of years to do it in and he spent them obsessively and happily meeting millions of people from a very advanced society and I'd bet all of my not-even-demon-duplicable worldly possessions that he does not have a better candidate for rulership of Mars.

I am grateful that you've been making things for us. I know it doesn't actually take much time but, you know, people who are not you who spend a hundred fifty years making things for humans only in a extremely circumscribed dehumanizing transactional capacity would take that to heart on some level and I am allowed to be delighted that you didn't even if I'm also utterly unsurprised - I am outrageously grateful for the humane moon arcology prison, it was breathtaking, when Ister was making it, I do not even know what combinations of talents someone needs to come up with something like that but any of the solutions I would have come up with would've been vastly inferior - if there were a prison that embodied the belief that people are never fundamentally deserving of suffering, it would be that prison, and we tore down Azkaban and put it on the Moon and you made that possible, you made all of this possible.

I am absurdly impressed that you threw off the Imperius. I was absurdly impressed even before I learned how you experience it, and then I was kind of heartbroken but it didn't take me that long to bounce back to being even more absurdly impressed, because the level of willpower and self-awareness and self-knowledge - 

- and I'm glad you don't want me to do it again, I don't know if I could, I don't want to hurt you, I am so grateful in every sense and from every angle that whatever cosmic forces govern this place brought you here. And there are so many worlds out there I don't understand the notations of numbers that you would need to use to describe them, and we are going to fix them, and you made all of that possible too, and apparently I am not great at handling the kind of pressure inherent in the scope of horror in the universe being effectively infinite and going on every single minute I waste sleeping or eating or complimenting shirtless demons but I'm going to get better at it and in the meantime it is unspeakably reassuring to know that you do not have that problem and that there will be steady hands steering the fate of as-many-worlds-as-we-can-reach."

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...at "compliment shirtless demons" that might be a little bit of smile.

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He has totally cracked the 'how to make Cam less sad' problem and it's tremendously satisfying. "I appreciate how conscientious you are. I am delighted and awed by the list of specialties you picked up in Hell and I want to hear you play the violin sometime and I sometimes imagine you living in a place where nothing was seriously wrong for a century and a half and I am so grateful that won't happen again. I appreciate how seriously you take important things while - not making it harder for people to be young and silly and happy in your company. You like fixing things, you like changing things, you like saying 'well luckily I have unfathomable cosmic power so that problem can stop being one now' - you're going to find it fun to save all the worlds, and that matters, it's contagious, it gives everyone else permission to find it satisfying too. Minor likes you. He's not like this at all around people he doesn't trust. I have never seen my father like a person who was not at that exact moment teaching him a language but he's comfortable here too. 

I appreciate how practically grounded your principles are. It comes up a lot - when we turn kittens into dishware, when you were explaining why it is that you think people are warranted in treating you as not credible, you think in very clear terms about what morality means and what it's for and I trust that no matter how bizarre or upsetting or confounding the worlds we find you'll - hmm, how to phrase it - when we are powerful enough to stop bad things, then anyone who can happily live in that society will be welcome in it, there's no purity test, there are uncompromisable foundations but the kind crafted to give everyone good lives, not the kind crafted to bring them in line - so few people I know do morality at all, and they're not generally better than the ones who don't. But it's a delight to see it done meaningfully and principled-ly and - I feel like no matter what sort of world you'd been born into you would have ended up the same, the foundations are that firm, that's not even true of me, but you - you chose who you were going to be and you chose so well. I appreciate the complexity of the balance you are trying to strike with - not making conversations about what you did about what it was like for you to do it - and I am very deeply grateful that you are willing to grant me that you deserve from me trust, and respect, and being taken seriously on everything. Because I'm going to need you, and it'd bother me a lot to... feel like you felt that my willingness to listen to you and take your advice and run plans by you and ask your help with hard problems was - some kind of luck, instead of an absolutely nonnegotiable condition for being competent enough to rule the world and go off fixing other ones...I like people to be clear on when I would be wronging them, and I would be.

Because you did the right thing. And I am so so grateful that you did. 

I am grateful that you're smiling. I wanted to pull that off for a long time and it is every bit as satisfying as I imagined it. I am so so grateful that you're going to live forever because I am certain there is something out there that will fix it and I trust completely that no matter how long it takes you will find it. And I would worry that this will be psychologically unhealthy but here you are and I successfully achieved smiling so I think you will be able to scour the universe for whatever unthinkable power it will require to bring back weird dead magic gods without being continuously miserable and I am grateful for that because Merlin, Cam, if 'deserves happiness' weren't a terribly silly concept I cannot think of anyone it'd apply to more. You've done so much. You're going to do so much. Eventually you will even publicize one of the nice things and people will appreciate you properly for it, and in a very long eventually you will be known in many worlds only to a few very obsessive historians but the good owed to you will be everywhere, every single prison where someone is visiting their mother and every single elephant-person and every single life with no end creeping up on it."

He looks at his watch. "You win the bet," he says, "that's only been thirty-two minutes and I think I have covered most of the points I had in mind."

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...self-conscious wing-rustling.

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He beams and slips off the barstool and goes upstairs.

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When nobody's looking Cam grins quietly to himself for a minute, and then picks up his reading again.

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When they have been discussing music and playing music and debating music for a couple of hours he yawns. "It may still be some ambiguous time of day in this place," he says, setting the violin down, "but I should probably get some sleep."

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"You gonna dismiss me or bring me along?" Amriac wonders languidly.

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Pet pet. "I thought I can't dismiss you until I've given you everything you want? It'd be hard to smuggle you into my dormitory, though. That really is one big building, maybe it contains an inn and I could get a room."

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"I'd let you. You'd miss me sooner or later." Nuzzle. "Worth checking though. Hee, 'get a room'."

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"Oh, is that 22nd century innuendo of some form? I cannot think of any reason to send you home, and also if I offered you the same terms again when I summoned you back everyone would regard me as very stupid and if I didn't I would feel like was being unbearably stingy. Clearly the solution is that you should stay as long as you like."

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Nibble. "It's 21st century, actually, but my English isn't up to date and you and Timothy didn't exactly catch me up to modern idiom."

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"Don't take summons very often?"

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"I took a few when there started being lots - before that there was no chance I'd catch one - but they were really overrated. Some people get lucky with the randoms, I guess, but not me."

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"People didn't have anything interesting to offer you?"

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"I got to go to a concert once but it wasn't that much better than getting the recording, and I didn't like being gagged at all."

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Shudder. "Yep, I'd find that - horrible - people are that worried they'll be talked into, what, this?"

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"Well, this but with someone nasty, I suppose. Also they think they have souls."

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"- I think we have souls. What does that have to do with anything?"

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"They think demons collect them? For some reason? I haven't the foggiest idea what I'd do with your soul if I knew how to take it."

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"They're used in some dark magic? It'd really surprise me if you could do anything with it. It's probably the 'demon' thing, if you'd gone with a different name maybe people'd be less scared. ...the Elves use it to talk about their metal brains, I guess I could see a demon getting into collecting those."

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"I'm not sure if the name came before or after human contact with actual demons. It was pretty established by the time I appeared."

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"If it turns out there's a way to do summoning in my world Timothy might be careful to use a different word."

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"Well, that won't help if any demons introduce themselves, will it? It's the same English more or less."

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"He might warn 'em not to? But I don't know, I am better at guessing the effects of Timothy's plans than what the actual plans are." Yawn.

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She hauls herself up out of the grass and dusts herself off. "Well, let's see if this place is also a hotel and if it's not I'll make you a treehouse or something. Needing to sleep every day sounds so - exhausting." Smirk.

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"Do demons sleep?"

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"We can but we don't have to. Part of the indestructibility package, we get hungry but only to a point, injured but only to a point, tired but only to a point, once caffeine was discovered we did way less sleeping as a species. I like it but only now and then."

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"This sounds like a really good deal." Inside they go. Minor and Finis are huddled over some textbooks. Timothy is not around.

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"Where'd Timothy go?" asks Amriac.

"Upstairs."

"So it is a hotel?"

"Yeah, get a key from Bar."

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"Is Timothy paying you for things or are you just doing whatever?"

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"Me? Just doing whatever."

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Nod.

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"I suppose it's sort of better that you weren't getting paid," reflects Amriac. She drops a stack of banknotes on Bar. They are replaced with a key and a room number.

(And there goes the good mood Cam was in.)

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He goes upstairs with her. "Are you just giving him a hard time about it because he neglected to mention the 'wizards from four hundred years ago' thing, or are you mad about it?"

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"I'm annoyed about the wizards from four hundred years ago thing and I'm kind of shocked about the holed a planet thing and it's not like anyone from the planet can give him a hard time instead. He's like the last person I'd have expected to hole a planet."

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"Timothy either thinks he had a really good reason or thinks that acting like he had a really good reason is safest for our planet, don't know how to tell which one but if you're shocked that's evidence for the first one."

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Shrug. Here is room 4000000. She counts the zeroes. Odd that it's so accessible. "He'd be the last person I'd expect to think there was a really good reason to hole a planet!"

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"Because he likes humans? Maybe he doesn't like Elves?"

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"Maybe Elves are horrible in some way apart from the music, I guess, I don't know."

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Room?

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Room! It has one bed in it. She flops into it and pats the bedspread beside her invitingly.

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He looks very slightly surprised, then lies down next to her. "So what do demons do instead of sleeping?"

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"We don't have to replace it straight across. We just stay awake. The major population center doesn't even have a sun so everything's lit up all the time."

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"Weird." Kiss.

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Gosh they sure seem to be in a bed in a locked room kiss.

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He has never gotten a girl into bed this easily and she's ridiculously powerful and knows a ton about music and he is kind of confused but not in a bad way.

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She makes no comment on how easy she is. Her attitude might be more closely mapped onto the sentiment of "mmm, snack".

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Demons are probably just weird. He really, really does not mind.

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Good.

And then it turns out she feels like sleeping afterwards.

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Timothy's kind of the best.

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Timothy sleeps all alone. He loiters coming downstairs the next morning but only about half an hour has passed in the bar.

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"Michael and the demon just went upstairs. You're too clever by half, you know."

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"I do, because you keep telling me."

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"Are they going to have hilarious misunderstandings around cultural connotations, I wonder."

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"It will be kind of entertaining if he is responsible enough to ask her if she has taken her anti-pregnancy potions. I cannot guess at what other cultural connotation misunderstandings there are, I have not seduced any daeva at all."

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"Not sure, I haven't seduced any wizards from 1802."

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"Witches."

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"Those either."

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"If you find yourself in the mood I can suggest some of either. I do kind of adore matchmaking."

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"I will keep you posted, thanks."

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"So what was the evil scheme on Michael's new girlfriend -"

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"It'd make him happy. The point of all the evil scheming is to make everyone in all the worlds happy, you know, wouldn't do to lose sight of that."

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"Sure, what was the other point -"

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"It'd make Amriac happy?"

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He sighs and goes back to his book.

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"Cam, do I have mail?"

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A sheaf of letters drops into his lap.

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"Thank you!" Angels who are interested in shenanigans on 1800s Earth, yay! 

 

...one of them has a special interest in the 19th century Anglican Church, double yay!

 

 

...there's also a message from Michael that says 'I can lie pretty well, you know. Are you not-worried or super-worried.'

That one he quite nearly makes a discernible distressed facial expression at.

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And Ister has acquaintances from some kind of demon kinkster mail group who'd maybe be interested but explaining is hard so if Timothy wants he could just get Cam to conjure group mail and lurk it to pick people?

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He reports this to Cam.

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"Do you actually want to lurk in a demonic kinky mail group."

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"I am unfamiliar with the term."

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"It's a bunch of people writing in uncomfortable detail to each other about their niche sexual interests."

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"I find people fascinating and expect that to extend to most things they do, but if it's supposed to be private I wouldn't want to...in 1802 that kind of thing is private..."

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"Many people continue this tradition of privacy. But. Fewer. There is a moderate but unenforceable social expectation that you don't spy on a mail group if you're going to judge its participants but by nature they can't be private since they work by conjuration. Private ones have to hang out in person or be elaborately encrypted."

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"Is there a way to, like, post to the mail group about our 'drug trial'?"

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"Yeah, it has a submission protocol like how people have mail titles."

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"That might be preferable to reading through it, then - how much screening for bad people should I be doing, so far daeva are much nicer than humans but I do realize they have incentive to seem so to summoners..."

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"Even daeva who were around in 1802 have never been in meaningfully deprived conditions unless they got astonishingly socially unlucky or zoo-summoned or something. Also a lot of problems turn out to have to do with lousy childhoods which are a nonfactor. There are daeva who are terrible people - and ex-humans, but disproportionately from post-Revelation - but you don't need to be statistically surprised. Zero screening wouldn't cut it and daeva may make up in carelessness what is lacked in malice if they're not used to fragile humans."

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Nod. "Can you help me compose a post, I'd phrase it all wrong."

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"I'm only so much help there but sure."

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"Thanks." And he goes to ask the bar for breakfast.

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Bar is better than house elves at breakfast and also doesn't have any trouble accessing tropical fruit.

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Amazing. He is so delighted with Bar.

 

He wants to go call up the angel with an interest in the Anglican church. "Cam, can I have a circle?"

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"Course. For whom?"

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He reads off the name.

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And here's a circle.

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And he goes outside and completes it!

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And he receives a nerdy angel!

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Who he has a lot of questions for about whether and how this plan could be accomplished!

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The nerdy angel is pessimistic and/or does not want a precious living instance of 19th century Anglicanism contaminated but is very forthcoming with facts and analysis.

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They are appreciated! He can't do anything anyway until they know whether summoners from their world become daeva.

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And it would be pretty neat if some 19th century Anglicans became angels so this angel could hang out with them, so. Tradeoffs.

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Especially since otherwise they probably all just stop existing irrevocably forever.

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Well the angel wasn't going to presume to disrespect the religious beliefs of yeah they totally would he has a point.

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Yeah. He spends all day quizzing her. "Thank you so much, can I get you anything?"

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She has a modest shopping list for his convenient demon. He fills it.

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"...I don't actually think there's much to do until someone dies and we know whether we daevafy when we do. We could start up time again - whenever Michael comes downstairs..."

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"That could take any amount of time, Milliways isn't synced with itself."

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"That's a little inconvenient. Okay. I guess I will start reading through Elf stuff and figuring out what they can help with."

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Minor and Finis valiantly stay up reading for three days straight before they are persuaded to get some sleep; Miranda sleeps more sensibly, and reads over the notes on the war Timothy forwarded her. To Timothy's great inconvenience Cam is around when Michael and Amriac come downstairs; this means all he can say to Michael is 'you helped, it's in his notes', which is not as oblique as he'd like to be on the subject and which gets a raised eyebrow and then a much-appreciated interruption from Minor with a question about how room assignments in Milliways are organized.

 

And then Michael and Amriac can go shopping!

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"I can't Apparate yet and a broomstick might not work for you. I guess we could go with the summoning a fairy?"

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"Is that better for some reason than making a shuttle? How far is it? How fast are broomsticks, do they even outpace wings?"

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"We probably don't have the same units of measure."

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"It's three hundred forty kilometers."

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"And those are -"

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He gestures with his hands like he's been doing this quite frequently. "Kilometer's a thousand of those."

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"That'd take me four, five hours to fly," says Amriac. "Shuttle'd do it in minutes though, just needs a place to land."

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"We can probably find one, I'll just make it invisible or something."

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She giggles. "Sounds good. Invisible shuttle!"

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"We'll have to walk to the edge of the grounds, wings'd raise questions..."

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"Mine don't fold up hide-under-a-coat size either," she muses, looking over her shoulder.

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"I can make them invisible too."

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"That'll work as long as nobody hugs me."

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"That would be a pretty unusual thing for them to do. You're dressed funny, though..."

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"So what should I wear?" she smirks.

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"Uh, robes? Like my dad's, pretty much?"

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"...Do they come in backless?"

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"No but you could probably do slits?"

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Voila. "Like this?"

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"Very convincingly witchy." He taps her wings; they go, not invisible, but very very hard to see and impossible to notice if you're not particularly looking for them. "If anyone asks why you're in Hogwarts you can safely just say 'Timothy' and roll your eyes."

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"It is ultimately his fault," she agrees.

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"And also people will find it completely believable that it's his fault, and also he's Head Boy and has a lot of latitude. Minor, hold the door -"

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"Say please -"

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"Minor, will you surpass my wildest dreams of what can reasonably be expected of a younger brother? Will you take on this horrifying exertion at my behest? Will you suffer for me? Will you die for me? Will you hold... the door?"

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He scoots over and takes up his books again.

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Amriac thinks Michael is hilarious.

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Michael thinks so too. He leans over to kiss her and then leads her out into a corridor that would be unremarkable if not for all the portraits staring curiously at them.

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Amriac looks curiously at the portraits, which would be doable conceptually with 2179 tech but not in paint.

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"Muggle art doesn't move, right?" Down the corridor to a cathedral-sized space crisscrossed with moving staircases; he steps on one as it swings around to point to a different hallway down below.

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"The paintings don't. There's animation. Not now though, I think."

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Down a staircase and through a hallway and to a courtyard and -

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"Way! Who's this, where're you going?"

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"Professor! This is Amriac, she's from Bechuanaland, we're going out for a stroll -"

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"No, you aren't. The castle's on lockdown until further notice - does the Headmaster know she's here -"

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"Timothy cleared it. The castle's on lockdown? Why?"

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"There's been a mass breakout from Azkaban."

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...Amriac frowns and lets Michael do the talking.

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"How long are we locked down, do you know?"

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"Probably until they find the escapees."

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"...have they looked on the Moon?"

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"Mister Way, this is not a laughing matter -"

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"Of course not, Professor, I'm sorry. We'll go back to the library."

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"Ooooh, secret passages."

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"Hogwarts has like dozens of them, I don't think the founders meant it to be secure at all." Left down a hallway and right into a gaggle of students in robes -

        "Hey Michael!" 

"Hey!"

          "Did you hear-"

"About the Azkaban breakout? Yes, I did."

         "It's a new Dark Lord, has to be. The whole place, demolished in a couple of minutes."

"That's terrible."

       "The Ministry's tearing itself apart trying to figure out what happened."

"I bet they are."

       "Who's this -"

"This is Amriac. Did all the prisoners escape?"

       "Yeah."

"You'd think most of them could barely move."

        " - yeah."

"So maybe it wasn't a breakout, maybe it was a - prison theft."

        "Still probably a new Dark Lord."

"Oh, no doubt. But one with a sense of style."

        One of the girls is glaring at Amriac. "Did you run out of girls in England?"

"I ran out of girls in the whole of Britain."

        "He's kind of an asshole," she tells Amriac.

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"I won't introduce him to anybody very sensitive, then," says Amriac.

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"We're supposed to go talk to Professor Martendecker about whether she's stuck here for as long as the school's shut down," Michael says, and shoulders through the crowd. 

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Amriac trots after him, trying not to bat anybody with a wing.

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"Sorry. Usually this hour, this close to exams, people're busy studying. Why Timothy was in such a hurry - I mean, he was in such a hurry because Azkaban -"

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"Do people actually go around calling themselves Dark Lords? You'd think after one person did that in real life the rest would pick something that hadn't been done already."

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"I think it's usually that other people will call you a dark lord. And it's a common trajectory because lots of the fucked up magic - encourages you to do more fucked up magic, and so on..." Mirror. He taps it and whispers something, and then steps right through it.

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"What happened five years ago?" It'll be like a mile of walking through bendy stone hallways. It's not lit; "Lumos," he says, and now it is.

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"Nearly all the major instrumental musicians on the entire plane of gold who ever make public appearances and a few who live offplane managed to agree on a convention time and place! We managed to perform some supposedly impossible compositions entirely on conventional instruments and I unveiled the sphereflute and then my orchestra and six others all got staggeringly drunk together and about seventy percent of us had an orgy and then wrote a bacchanale about it before we sobered up and it was glorious."

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"- that sounds amazing. ...plane of gold?"

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"Oh, somebody decided once there ought to be a huge solid gold rectangle. This is actually stupid but now most demons live there instead of on planets."

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"Hell sounds great."

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"It's lovely! Then again I haven't been other places for much accumulated time."

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"You guys can't visit the angels place and the fairies place?"

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"Nope. There's concordances but that's not the same."

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"I guess I'd miss my family."

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"If it's people we want to see - although I don't have any angel friends, angels are racist - we just have to arrange to be summoned together."

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"All angels are racist?"

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"Maybe some of them aren't? I've never talked to one."

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"How do you summon them, same way?"

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"I think it's the same principles, yeah, just 'angel' for 'demon' and swap the names if you put a name."

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"Timothy's probably got it covered." The passage slopes downwards.

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"Do you have to concentrate to keep the light or anything?" she wonders.

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"No, but it'd go out if I tried to cast something else, unless I told it to hop off my wand and trail us or something, and that's a more complicated charm."

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"I could just make a flashlight - or, no, Cam was saying something about stuff not working here -"

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"My chip seems to not have killed me, so that's good. But yeah, electricity doesn't work in Hogwarts, Minor's been super upset about it since forever, we think one of the lightning wards is a little too broadly set."

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"Weird," she says, shaking her head. "Maybe they'll fix it when it's more properly invented."

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"Yeah, probably."And here they are in the basement of a potions shop! It looks very delightfully like a mad scientist's lair in a cartoon, which Michael cannot appreciate; there are bubbling cauldrons full of glowing substances, and flasks everywhere, and mysterious objects suspended in very viscous liquids. 

 

He makes himself and the rest of her invisible.

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"Oooh, I want photos, does electricity work here -" She tries it.

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The first camera she attempts won't turn on. The second turns on and then promptly crashes.

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Pout.

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"Huh, I think Minor thought it was just Hogwarts. If you make a canvas I can have a drawing quill copy it?"

 

There are footsteps on the stairs. "Or we could do that later," he adds in a whisper.

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"Okay," she whispers back.

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"How indestructible are you exactly?"

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"...Totally? Unless I feel like letting something hurt me more than a little. I guess I don't know about magic stuff."

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He takes hold of her arm, furrows his forehead, twists - 

 

- and they're standing in a quaint little village square at sunset, where their appearance barely causes the passing pedestrians to blink. "Ha, got it," he says smugly. 

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"Ooooh."

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"I've never tried taking someone with me before and if you get it wrong you leave part of them behind but it's not a magic injury - dunno if I did it carefully enough or if you're just invulnerable to that but either way -"

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"Even if I did lose a bit I'd heal in a few seconds," she assures him.

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"Which is super useful. Okay, now we can get a shuttle and go to London."

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"Can you make it invisible while I'm making it?"

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"I don't think so, we should probably get away from people."

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"Lead the way."

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And they can head off the picturesque main streets to a deserted one.

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Itsy bitsy shuttle!

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Itsy bitsy invisible shuttle! Though he gawks at it a bit first.

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"So cute," says Amriac, and she flies it by chip.

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Flying on an invisible shuttle is a disconcerting experience! He stares out. "You say that like I'm a toddler, or a bunny."

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"I don't think I've ever seen a toddler but if you were a bunny I'd be going eeeeeeeeee."

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"You've never seen a toddler? Gosh that's weird. What sort of things do people in 2179 want on summons?"

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"I mostly got summoned in the 2010s and 2020s. Made a shopping mall and an underwater dome. Got evaluated for a forensics job once but I didn't want it so I didn't stay to the stage where they'd've let me talk."

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"Forensics?"

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"Conjuring shit to see what it was."

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"Why didn't you want it?"

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"Didn't like the look of the boss or the sound of the schedule."

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Nod. "If you haven't answered summons since the 2020s why'd you grab Timothy's?"

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"It wasn't a random, it was for me! That was new."

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"Cam has good judgment in demons to have his acquaintances summon, if not in what to inform them about what's going on!"

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"I should ask him why me, actually, it's not like we're best friends."

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"Does he have best friends? Does he have friends? I get the sense the planet thing would be kind of a big deal to people?"

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"The planet thing is recent. He has, you know, friends, I guess I don't know if he has best friends."

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"Recent enough no one in Hell's heard, or do you mostly just hang out in music circles and not news ones..."

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"Second thing. Also, like, we're all immortal and can't go anywhere outside of Hell without help, so even if we care about the news we don't necessarily care about it really urgently."

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Nod. "So he might've been trying for an acquaintance of his who wouldn't have heard about the thing?"

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"But then he didn't try to make sure I didn't hear about it, and also the first time Timothy summoned me I didn't know Cam had a thing to do with it, that took until I listened to the song he paid me with and he did that thing with the key change."

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"I still haven't heard the song!"

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She puts it on. The thing with the key change is not annoying in a single instance, apparently.

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It's a pretty good song. They talk music the rest of the way there, and have to touch down a ways from Diagon Alley because even invisible there're just too many people around.

 

1800 Muggle London is kind of dingy and very smelly.

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...she can make less smelly air. Invisibly.

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That's useful. And she won't be able to see Diagon Alley but he can pull her on into the Leaky Cauldron and make them visible once he's there, they'll notice Disillusioned people here.

       "Way! Shouldn't you be in school?"

"Sure am, sir, top of the class if you don't count the people who do their homework!"

       The bartender laughs. "They don't want people out and about too much, what with the Azkaban breakout."

"I don't see how we're in any more danger out and about. If Azkaban got dismantled security's not going to help."

       "You're just going to scare people, saying things like that."

"I personally believe people have nothing to be afraid of."

        The bartender accompanies them to the back of the building, taps the wall, watches him with a raised eyebrow. "Stay out of trouble, kid."

"Trust me, sir, I want nothing more than a peaceful shopping trip."

 

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Diagon Alley is amazing.

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He's glad she likes it. "I only have a couple Galleons on me, we're going to have to stop by the bank for pricier stuff."

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"They'll buy some nice nonmagical gold?" she asks, rubbing her hands together.

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"I think so, I think wizard-duplicated stuff's not quite as good. If not I still have a fair bit in my vault - my grandfather's on the Wizengamot and my father's invented a bunch of charms -"

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"What's a Wizengamot?"

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"Runs the country, sort of? They try people for crimes and make laws and things."

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"Hell mostly doesn't have that sort of thing."

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"What happens if someone does something bad?"

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"Like... what?"

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"Uh, someone really wants an elephant and gets a summoner to pay them with an elephant and then someone murders their elephant? Or someone puts a fancy tech thing secretly in someone else's house and catches a recording of them in bed? Or someone tells a summoner to get an enemy of theirs and just leave them stuck in a circle for a year?"

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"If you have irreplaceable stuff around you tend not to live near other people in case something explodes. Bugging people's houses is fucked up but if you think somebody might bug your house you don't let them in, or if you're really paranoid you torch the place and remake it now and then. If they belong to a neighborhood association that kinda thing might get them shunned but there's nothing really done, done... The zoo summon would definitely cause reputation problems, maybe retaliation in kind."

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"And stuff done on summons..."

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"People might, like, not want Cam around. There's nothing they can actually do."

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"Wizards'd kind of upset that balance."

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"Oh, yeah, I guess they would if they decided to start trying to police demons?"

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"If we do become daeva when we die, and we keep our magic, then someone would totally get it into their head to go around punishing bad people or whatever."

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"You'd have to get a stick, right?"

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"Yeah. Or potions ingredients but I bet those all relevantly count as magic."

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"That's why I expect I couldn't just make a copy of that neat basement at home, probably everything cool in there is magic."

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"Yeah, almost certainly. You can buy most of those potions but some're expensive."

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"What do they do besides look cool?"

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"Uh, make you look like someone else, make you grow gills so you can breathe underwater, there's liquid luck - makes everything go right that's up to chance - there're sleep potions that last forever on humans, dunno what they'd do on daeva, there's truth potions, there're love potions..."

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"Wowwwww. How long do the ones that don't last forever last?"

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"Varies by dosage and competence of the potion-maker - usually anywhere between an hour and a day..."

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"The sleep one might be useful for the poppy fields people, if they did last on daeva."

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"Poppy fields people?"

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"I think daeva don't get depressed as much as live humans but if we do we're pretty stuck. So there's a place where some folks will keep demons who'd sooner check out drugged asleep."

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"Well. You can take some Draught of Living Death home with you, see if it does anything." He gestures up ahead. "That's Gringotts."

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"The architectural sensibility here is really interesting. If kind of light on the plants, would it kill them to plant some ivy...?"

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"Does Hell have more plants everywhere? I guess you wouldn't have to wait for them to grow..."

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"Or hope that they grow in the shape we have in mind, either, yeah. You do have to be careful about lighting if you don't live in an entire solar system but it's not that hard."

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There are goblins at the doors of Gringotts; he nods at them, and they open the doors, and they go in.

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"What are those," she whispers.

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"Goblins. They handle the banking," he whispers back, and gets in a line.

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"Why?"

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"- not sure, I'd have to ask Aaron. Historical reasons?"

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"What else do they do?"

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"...there're wars sometimes?"

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"...They can't just do banking and wars, that's stupid, they have to have hobbies."

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"I can't say I've ever asked."

 

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"I suppose I don't know what half my neighbors do with their spare time." She is maybe kinda staring at the goblins. The goblins glower back.

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"They don't exactly like wizards too much. Mostly wizards' fault, I think."

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"Oh, and they think I'm a wizard, too, I guess?"

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"Yeah, Muggles don't come through here much and no one here'd know what a demon is - though there's no harm in telling them, as long as we don't mention how to summon 'em -"

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"It's not super hard to guess, I think, at least if you don't care if you're doing it carefully."

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"Well, there'd be a disaster waiting to happen. I should've asked Timothy what the plan is."

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"You could write Cam a note but that'll depend how often he's checking his mail."

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"We can just not explain anything, for the time being."

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"Okay!" Staring at goblins. Getting glared at by goblins.

They advance to the head of the line. The goblin there peers at them over his pince-nez. "What brings you here today?" he asks.

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"Is it possible to sell you large quantities of gold, silver, some other metal, I don't know, gems, stuff like that...I have a source for quite a lot of all of the above..."

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"Assuming you are willing to provide sufficient assurance that the items are genuine and that you have accurately represented their quality, yes, we are interested in purchase of same within reasonable parameters."

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"If my word isn't sufficient assurance we can pay for some experts to look it over, out of some fraction of what we're selling?"

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"That will suffice. What quantity are you interested in selling?"

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"Uh. Ten thousand Galleons worth, say?"

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Eyebrow raise. "Very well. Please take this," he peels off a bit of paper from a stack, "to room 409 down that corridor. Next!"

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In room 409 is, predictably, another goblin. She examines the piece of paper. "Where do you propose to get that much mixed precious metal and gems?" she inquires.

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"I don't want to reveal my source but I can transport it to a location of your choosing."

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"Very well." She names figures for ten thousand Galleons' worth of gold and silver - "Gems are not delineated by weight alone, as quality and cut also matter."

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"We'll do gold and silver, then. Where -"

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"There is a goblin-operated shipment receiving area on the Thames -" She produces an address and another bit of paper. "Present this and bring your metal there."

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"Thank you!"

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"Its hours of operation are ten in the evening to six in the morning."

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" - okay." He glances at his watch. "In that case can we also go to my vault and get my money now?"

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"Do you have your key?"

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"nn - uh, yes, I do."

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"Those aren't magic?" Amriac blinks.

"Present it at the entrance to the caves," instructs the goblin.

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"Thank you!

 

- I don't think so, they don't look magic..."

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"Huh." She makes his key as they head for the cave entrance. "So wait, could I totally steal everybody's money like this?"

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"I expect if you had the keys to everyone's vaults they would think that was suspicious and at some point assume you'd stolen the keys, but you could probably do some vault-robbing. Ten thousands Galleons really should cover most things you'd want, though."

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"Oh, I wasn't going to actually do it."

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"I trust you. Yes, you could rather grandly mess up the whole world."

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Giggle.

There ensues a minecart ride! Whee!

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Past a dragon, even!

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"Holy shit was that a dragon I want to go meet the dragon."

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"They're danger- uh, they're dangerous to us. After we go shopping we could go visit a reserve in Ireland or something, maybe."

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"Okay!"

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And his vault! It has substantially less than ten thousand Galleons but enough for most things she might see in a shop window. 

"Okay, now we can go shopping."

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Shopping!!!!! It's just like on TV but everything is magic!!!!!

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He finds it adorable how entertained she is. They get a trunk to carry everything in.

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It's even better than the bag from Timothy!

She wants a lot of things.

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Yeah, well, he has all the music and can get his money back later when they drop a ridiculous amount of gold on the Thames. She can have a lot of things.

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A+ summoner behavior. She is a pleased demon and kisses him every second or third time she bags a purchase and asks lots of questions.

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Some of which have passersby staring, but he answers as thoroughly as he can anyway.

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Good.

Eventually she has been in every shop in Diagon Alley and bought half the magic things and taken notes on all the nonmagic things just in time to go make some gold. "I can make it look like I'm getting it out of one of those magic bags."

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"That's probably better than no explanation whatsoever."

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And they are sooooo rich. "If there's anything you didn't buy because we couldn't afford it I probably can't sneak out again tomorrow but you totally can."

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"I don't know till I try 'em if I want more of any of the potions... can't use a broom... I'm good for now."

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"Okay." And back to Hogsmeade.

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He's not supposed to be in the hallways at this hour! He rounds a corner and comes face to face with -

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"There's a curfew. Because of the Azkaban breakout. I appreciate that you didn't mind helping me enforce it, my nerves've been jumpy all day. We have another three hours on duty and then it's Belmonia's."

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"I was just planning to go back to Milliways."

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"You were gone for eight hours."

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"Goblins are, like, nocturnal or something."

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"That's great. I had to come up with a cover story and you're on duty and then going to bed. You could've written."

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"Sorry."

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"...I can go back to Milliways, right?"

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"Yes, of course, you're not one of my students and no one has any reason to hold me accountable for whatever you get up to. Did you have a fun trip?"

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"It was great!" she beams. "I got so much stuff! There was currency involved! I saw a dragon and later we're going to a preserve!"

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"Don't bother the dragons too much until we've double-checked that magic fire doesn't affect you more than regular fire."

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"Makes sense. Still, though. Dragon!"

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"They're pretty cool."

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"Night. Unless, you know, you wanted to insist I miss my scheduled hall duty shift, I think there's a binding magic contract involved and my brother couldn't do anything about it."

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"I would but technically if you stiff me that just weakens my binding, it doesn't actually do anything directly. I don't think I'd be very convincing if I threatened you really."

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"Timothy could probably tell whether you meant it," he says regretfully, and kisses her goodnight.

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Mwah. "Will the thing on my wings wear off, it's kind of weird."

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"Will, or I can remove it." He does that.

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Mwah. "Later!" And she attempts to retrace her steps to the door.

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He patrols the corridors of Hogwarts for Azkaban escapees. There are none, of course. Their cells contain instructions on how to communicate with Cam, but he'd probably better get some people up there to make sure they're eating and everything. He debates internally who at St. Mungos could be trusted. He sends Michael to bed with a scolding about how of all the days to miss dinner to find some nook with some girl, not today, when everyone was on edge; Michael rejoins that he did that on lots of other days, too, to be fair.

Timothy takes ten points from Slytherin out loud and awards the two of them thirty, in his head, for some fantastic acting. 

After breakfast he goes up to the fourth floor corridor that winds behind the astronomy tower. His father is sitting in the doorway, reading. Cam is sitting over at the bar, also reading. He looks - okay. Amriac didn't spend the night scolding him about the planet, at least. She didn't seem the type but he'd nonetheless worried. 

And there are footsteps behind him. 

He turns around and illusions a stone wall between him and Milliways. It's not the alcove that is actually usually there - that'd be too hard to get the perspective right - and it's one-directional but hopefully his father and Cam are too smart to go walk through it. "Professor Kneedling."

"Mister Way."

                "You have a very good attendance record here."

"I take great pride in it."

              "It made your absence all yesterday afternoon and evening, and Minor's, and Michael's, and your father's - he cancelled all his appointments, did you know? - all the more surprising."

"Michael takes less pride in his attendance; he was off with a girl. I watched the Quidditch practice, you can ask -"

                "I am sure I can ask literally dozens of people."

Timothy smiles. "That's right."

               "Do you have any insight you could lend the Ministry on the Azkaban breakout?"

"No."

               "Do you think the Ministry will hesitate to imprison people simply because Azkaban has been attacked?"

" - Professor. What I heard of the incident was that the island was neatly picked up, moved a fathom away, neatly set back down, and demolished layer by layer, all the Dementors and prisoners removed without a trace. All within three minutes."

               "Yes."

"If you had any idea who'd done something like that, wouldn't it be very unwise to pick a fight with them?"

                A long pause. "Who can confirm you were at the Quidditch practice?"

Timothy cheerfully lists two dozen names. He waits for Professor Kneedling to leave.

And he steps into Milliways and closes the door.

 

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"I hope no one picks a fight with you. You might have to produce your spectacular powers."

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"I won't be provocative at people who might respond by being provoked. I have a tentative list of healers who'd be cooperative with being dropped off on the Moon to help out - I don't know how good angelic healing is, is that worth employing also?"

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"It won't do anything for psychological problems but it's great for physical ones if you get a well-trained angel. There's lists."

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"Yay, more interviews." He's grinning broadly. "This magic system was, like, designed to delight me personally - what've you been up to, get anywhere useful..."

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"Talked to the person working security on the grounds that anybody who could arrest all of us at need would need cool powers. The cool power is stopping time but the bar is letting him cheat a nasty side effect so he can't reasonably be sent on errands."

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"Nasty side effect?"

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"Costs him lifespan. At a very steep exchange rate."

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"Can the Elves pick it up? Can daeva?"

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"If they were under five and got dunked in a magic fountain maybe."

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"I guess we might have a hard time finding under five Elf volunteers for dunking. How are we on things to do while the door to Arda's open -"

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"Get ahold of your mother's alt, send a drone to Endorë in case they're not conjuring their mail to ask for attention to the interworld transit problem and personnel for modernizing your world and others similar, I think that's all on the list."

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"World with the time-stopper need any help?"

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"It has even less technology than yours and lots of profoundly disabled people who overused the other sorts of magic that don't just outright kill you. Also the existing power structures have mages on retainer."

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"That sounds delightfully challenging and probably a terrible place to start."

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"Pretty much, yeah."

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"I will check the Arda to-do list with everyone, see if there's anything we're missing."

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"I'll be spending the intervening time resurrecting people" obviously "but I can spare a bit after the drone's been gone five days to conjure a reply and it's loosely possible they'll be busy enough at home to prefer to be forked instead of coming entire."

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"Sounds good. Can you speed up the resurrecting any by doing all the chips in here-"

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"Yeah. Can I get one of those bags that's bigger on the inside? It's enough to be hard to haul around, five days' worth."

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"Of course. I'll grab one from supplies next time I open the door - did anyone in Azkaban write -"

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Checking again... "Not yet. Wizards are mostly literate, right...?"

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"Some come to Hogwarts not knowing how to write but they get caught up quick enough. You - mostly - can't commit the sort of crime that lands you in Azkaban without years of school. They're probably just - out of it."

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"Are they even going to eat? How were they kept alive?"

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"People drop by every day, check there's no signs of trouble. They feed them. There's food you don't have to eat much of to stay alive, and wizards starve much slower than Muggles. I don't know if they'll eat now. Assembling the angels and therapists is probably worth doing before we open the door again."

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"Yeah. ...How did they get anyone volunteering for that job on the island with the avatars of psychological torture?"

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"Oh, we can defend ourselves, there's a charm for it. It's still not the most fun job in the world, but it pays well, and some people like seeing their former enemies tortured and so on."

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"Charming."

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"I'm honestly a little surprised humanity grows out of that one."

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"Oh, you know, people assign high status to being magnanimous and too cool to care about revenge and so on."

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"Oh, yes, of course that'd be the way to do it." Sigh. "What'll the therapists do -"

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"That kinda depends on whether you can sell them on the necessity of prison in the first place, I think I mentioned Elves spontaneously die if locked up?"

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"How do they define 'locked up', can they handle being confined to their home by a big blizzard, can they sail across the ocean - oh, I guess that wouldn't take very long anymore -"

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"It takes a while to set in, but a while is like a week or something. I don't think weather conditions do it. They can travel by lightleaper, which involves five days stuck in a ship. I'm pretty sure people marooning others on the Moon specifically to prevent them from going somewhere they'd rather be counts."

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"Well. Humans don't die, and I doubt the standards of evidence meet 2179 expectations but most of those people are in fact guilty of, like, poisoning people or illegal lethal duelling or secret dragon-breeding with a dozen casualties or dosing Muggles with love potions for a night and then making them forget it - that's technically legal, but he did one of the memory charms carelessly and that's a Statute violation -"

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"I really wasn't planning to take over the world just for fun."

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"I didn't think you were."

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"Anyway. We're not letting the Elves take 'em home as pets, even if the Elves hate prison."

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"If they get all crusadey about it they can have Muggles from one of those Dickensian debtors' prisons and see how that goes first maybe."

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"Dickensian?"

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"...maybe Dickens is not yet. Charles Dickens was an author -" He looks up some dates. "...who will be born in thirty-four years, whoops, and he wrote some of the more famous novels in the English language."

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"I will look forward to his existence. And the Elves can have all the Muggle prisoners they want - Bar, is there any way to get this door anywhere but in the middle of Hogwarts -"

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Very occasionally, someone from the same world will also get a Milliways door in one of the rare cases of time passing with the door closed, and it can be used as normal. Otherwise, no.

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"Then it'll be really hard to move them unless the Elves can get anywhere on interdimensional transit."

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"Or maybe teleportation."

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"Can't Apparate in Hogwarts. Some other method might do it."

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"Exactly. And be usable by nonwizards."

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"I am optimistic about what can be accomplished by locking two of my father in a room with computers and so forth."

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"Me too."

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"And if he gets the stone sorted they can stay as long as it takes to get it working."

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Nod.

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"What's Amriac up to?"

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"In the backyard playing with her stuff."

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And not bothering you, good. "Of course."

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"She wants to try something called the draught of living death on poppy garden demons."

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"If they're interested, sure."

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"I mean, she didn't ask permission, just mentioned it, but I assume she'll ask first or at least dose one whose will includes experimentals."

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"It's reversible even in humans so I'm not too worried."

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"Oh good."

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"I am assuming here it's not a problem for Hell to know about us, only vice versa, is that safe enough -"

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"I... think so, but could be missing something."

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"If you can make dragon eggs someone could grow some dragons to adulthood and get various magic stuff - wands, potions - but that'd be a lot of dedication and I still don't think anyone gets hurt...at least until there are actual wizards there..."

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"Amriac tried an egg, didn't work."

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"Love potions are terrible but more information dissemination is probably better, there -"

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"I didn't ask her if she'd gotten any, would Michael have let her without mentioning -?"

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"He was kind of annoyed with me for sending him off to bed last night, he wouldn't send her home without mentioning it to me but he might in fact have failed to mention it yet -"

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"...well, she might've but I don't know if she did."

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"I can go ask, if we want to know before Michael's up for some reason."

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"Probably no hurry."

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"Consenting people have fun with 'em, she might have them without that being a problem at all."

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"Could be."

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"I will ask him. ...I'm assuming you can't conjure for, like 'flasks containing love potions' -"

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"Prrrrobably not? Since we don't know if Amriac has one I'm not sure how to check, do you know where one would definitely be -?"

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"There's one in the Potions classroom."

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Flasks containing - here we go. "So I can conjure by magic information, even if I can't get the magic substances, that's good."

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"Amriac have any?"

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Check - "No."

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"Oh, good. One less thing to worry about. I think I won't take further actions in my world until we have the therapists assembled. I'll get you that bag for chips."

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"Thanks."

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He goes and Accios one. Hands it to Cam. "Have you had breakfast?"

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"I'm not keeping anything like a schedule relative to which 'breakfast' is relevant. I had some oranges a while ago."

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"Fair. I really want the not-sleeping thing. Bar, can I have some breakfast?"

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Blackberry oatcakes and bacon and poached eggs and apple juice!

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Tasty! He does not enquire as to whether the bacon comes from pigs; it is not looking like he's going to have to deal with Revelation for a while. 

 

Then he reads over the legalese on one of the discarded binding circles.

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- things that take effect outside the circle excepting the following: -

- upon agreement, the demon shall not intentionally at any time misrepresent themselves by word, implication, or insinuation as having completed the task -

- shall seek redress first by inquiry; failing which attempt to produce a clear attempt at dispensing payment shall -

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So even if Cam had friends who could have covered for him, given him something other than a comprehensive body of works confirming Cam's story, this particular binding wouldn't have permitted that. 

 

He rolls it up and puts it away and composes letters to a few people at St. Mungos.

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Cam goes and puts ten days' worth of chips through the read-write process and fills up his bag.

And then comes downstairs and asks if it's time to open the door to Arda.

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"Yep, think so, I have messages for everybody. You okay?"

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"I've been trying not to let myself get too used to 'not resurrecting people around the clock' but I'm not sure I quite managed."

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"We aren't in a hurry, if that's a problem that'll get better instead of worse with a couple more days..."

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"Probably wouldn't help."

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"Do you want Ister working too - speed it up a bit -"

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"It's not a good idea to spread around that this is doable by demons."

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"Claiming it's doable from a chip is fine, right-"

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"Yes but a black hole would not leave intact chips. If anyone asks it's based on Silmaril backups."

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"Good to know. Okay. Good luck. Who's holding the door?"

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"I'll ask Larya. She can trade with someone if she gets tired."

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Nod. "Do you know how my Elf mom is best found?"

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"Ríewen was on shift then and may know. Failing that osanwë."

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"Okay. See you soon."

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Cam nods and opens the door and interpolates a new hole in the wall and calls over his helpers.

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Who accept an explanation with only a little bit of hesitation and some glances at Timothy.

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And Cam installs Larya at the door and goes back to reembodying Elves.

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And he ventures off to find his Elf mother.

 

She can, in fact, recommend some therapists. They round everyone up and return to Milliways three days later. 

 

 

And two days after that there's a letter for Cam from Maitimo with a list of people with skillsets relevant to helping with interdimensional travel or 1800 Earth who have consented to be forked. It's a sizable list; most of the Fëanorians are on it.

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Cam finishes reembodying his bagful of prepped chips and then he waits for Timothy to be handy and forks the named Elves.

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 " - huh. I was trying to imagine it and coming up short. It's nice to meet you!" 

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"Likewise, I read all your notes and I'm jealous - the people -"

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"I have pretty amazing people!"

 

All of whom then introduce themselves. Fëanor wanted ten of him. They have a lot of questions for their alt about magic and then descend into a technical discussion of interdimensional transit. 

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"Do you want some fake money to get them all set up -"

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And he sets about doing that.

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"Elf mom! What's being dead like?"

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"Have you all been calling me Elf mom? You have a Maitimo around and you've been calling me Elf mom? Being dead is not like anything, as I imagine you know perfectly well."

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"The universe stopped being logical a little while ago."

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"It really did, didn't it. Hello," she adds to Cam, scooping up Minor rather effortlessly.

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"Hi."

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"Thank you."

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- the polite thing to say in response to that is "you're welcome" except Cam is obviously not going to say that holy fuck so he just kind of stares at her.

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"When we let ourselves think about how it might play out the best case scenarios were - unimaginably worse -"

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"...yeah."

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"Sorry if you don't want to talk about it -"

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"It's - it's okay."

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Nod. Minor is squirming. "Sorry, dear, but all my children have been grown up for five hundred years."

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"That doesn't mean I want a hug!"

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"Would you like to be put down."

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"Are you done having an awkward conversation."

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"I couldn't say. Are we?" she asks Cam.

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(Miranda quietly thinks Minor being picked up is adorable.)

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"...Up to you?"

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"My children are running around inventing themselves things to fix worlds with, again, instead of prosecuting a hopeless war. There isn't really - enough to say, about that -"

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Nod.

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He wiggles loose.

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He finishes introducing himself to people. 

"Do you want to go interview medical angels, there's a list -"

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"Love to, how many -"

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"There're sixty-two prisoners. - also, am I bad at relationships in full generality or just when I don't give myself any coping time -"

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"The latter."

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"How long did you in fact need -"

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"Hour and a half? But it really wouldn't have been defensible to take it sooner."

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"I'm glad it's over."

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"Yes. Cam, could I have some circles -"

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Cam hands him some circles.

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And he goes off to interview angels.

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Angels appear when summoned in the conventional manner.

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And when a group of them are assembled, they and the therapists can take a trip to the Moon to go check up on people suffering from extended Dementor exposure. "Are you going with?"

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"Yes, I think so, it sounds like there might be some cultural differences to mediate."

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"With the Elves? There will be, but they'll listen to you."

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"I regrettably cannot return the - convenience."

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"I hadn't pulled it all off when I was coming up on two."

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"I'm seventeen."

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"I know! That's nearly two of our years."

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"Wow. We should be back in a couple hours, feel free to close the door if anything arises that you're not equipped to handle, keep an eye on my little brother because presuming Macalaurë's going to do a performance it'll -"

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"Yes, that occurred to me."

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"I'm really glad we've got the magic or I'd just feel rather obviated."

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"I don't know everyone you know! Yet."

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He laughs. "Have you met Miranda? Miranda, Maitimo -"

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"Hi!"

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"Hi. ...This is weird."

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"The alternate universe versions of people thing? It really, really is - how'd you get dragged in -"

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"I'm an Occlumens - I can throw off mind magic - and that was experimentally useful, also I am just great in general."

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"Have you had the chance to take a look at what we're doing - we're not sure yet how much adapting it'll need, but one of the things Timothy got when he stole all my notes was some planning to end scarcity on Endorë without any demons, we came up with it before the war - they were a little farther along than you are but not too much, and less back when we were writing these up -" he pulls a computer out -

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"I want one of those fancy computers but I'm waiting to see if Michael keels over first. I've been catching up on everything but I didn't prioritize 'plans that existed to do a thing without a resource that will obviously completely change the best way to do that thing'..."

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"If your people don't daevafy on dying - we don't - then it is probably not worth openly doing things in your world with daeva, the downside potential is - well, I can't interview daeva without thinking what if we'd gotten someone other than Cam -"

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"Not just daeva. Witches and wizards exist and even if we're not openly doing things there's things we could do covertly. There's no particular reason we couldn't make something that produced unlimited clean water and make it look like a well that simply couldn't ever get cholera in it, say. Also, Elves are kind of weird and all the social bits would be wrong for introducing on our Earth with humans and goblins and centaurs and all."

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"How are we relevantly weird?"

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"Cam keeps mentioning that you spontaneously die if imprisoned? Oaths? Everything has to be pretty? Crime rate of 'no'? The hair thing? That one's probably not actually relevant. I'm wondering if I count as decent according to the hair thing actually, technically it's all braided."

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"Orcs didn't have a crime rate of 'no', and they also don't have the pretty thing or the imprisonment thing. You're a kid, so no one'd blink at it, but an adult would probably make Elves happier if they braided the braids into more braids. Why do you look very different from the other alternate universe people -"

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"In, what, coloration? My ancestors are from another continent."

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He blinks. Twice. 

"- how much of the wizardry interventions you're in favor of can be done while there's still the law about secrecy -"

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She rummages around in her computer - "demonic format conversion is so great," she mutters. "Uh, there's the water thing, that's usually my go-to example. We could sneak a lot under cover of religion, I think Timothy's summoning-angels-at-first-communion idea is a reach but hide a wand in a cross and do miraculous healing and you're good... could sink slave ships before they filled up with slaves and make it look like storms, weirdly persistent storms but not ones they'd be able to trace back... Muggles can't tell apart some magical animals from regular ones, I haven't fully thought this one through because I thought of it right before Timothy got me and haven't been mulling it over very hard since then but I wonder if Kneazles snuck into Muggle areas couldn't help with some kinds of crime..."

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"And how long were you estimating before you can dispense with the secrecy, what are the limitations on that -"

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"Timothy thought something like another six years and it's all politics stuff which is his thing much more than mine so I wasn't expecting to do better there."

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"Did Timothy mention that you are startlingly similar to Cam -"

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"...am I? No, he didn't..."

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" - yeah, you really really are - honestly, change the voice and sound a little bit more hopelessly sad about everything and I could be talking to him -"

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"He's kind of hopelessly sad all the time."

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"You did get the complete account of what we did, and why?"

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"Yeah."

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"If you need any clarifications -"

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"...I don't think so? Why?"

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"He'll answer you but is in a bit of a bind because he does not want to defend his actions at all, and volunteering enough detail about contingencies and other things we attempted that you could actually draw a conclusion about whether we were right might come across that way, so if you had questions you might do better to ask me instead."

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"I got the outline from Timothy and wasn't going to pester Cam about it. Why?"

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"Well, if you're a not-exactly-doppleganger-but-we-don't-know-much-about-how-all-this-works-so-why-wouldn't-it-work-that-way version of him and you think it was terrible that'd really bother him, and also would be evidence you aren't but I don't know how much evidence because I don't know if at 13 he had fully settled on his present form of moral reasoning."

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"...we don't look the same. You and Timothy look the same and you're not the same species and Cam used to be a human. Also I am a girl."

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"I had observed this, yes. But you are exactly what I would expect Cam to be like as a thirteen year old wizard girl from a preindustrial society."

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"Witch."

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"Independently noticed that magic should be used to stop everyone dying all the time which is horrible, check. Set about coming up with creative ways to achieve that with magic without risking yourself too much, check. Thinks in terms of resources in a relevant way, more or less prefers to have ownership of projects except the people stuff which Timothy gets to do because he's really good at it, you're not, and he listens to you, right? Want to administer a planet once there are some to go around?"

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"...yes?"

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"He was unsure how to assess whether our war was justified and didn't want to help us too much until he was sure, but he jumped at the chance to administer a refugee planet because that would be really fun - he's not like that now but that's because of the genocide -"

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"Okay you might be right but I'm going to check," says Miranda, and she goes up to Bar. "Hey is he right?"

Yes.

"You could've said."

You didn't ask.

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"Can you assume for future reference that we definitely want to know that kind of thing?"

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You can certainly register a preference that your own alts be pointed out.

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"There is no chance I wouldn't instantly recognize them! Even if they're a different species and don't look like me, if they're older than three bet you I guess it."

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Then perhaps my assistance will only be useful in the presence of child instances.

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"I would like to know about alts of me," Miranda tells Bar; and to Maitimo, "Why do you think Timothy didn't notice?"

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"I'll have to ask him, but possibilities: he met Cam and then selected, of all the people he knew, the ones he wanted working with Cam most, and could attribute a lot of the similarities to that; he has a crush on Cam and it is clouding his model of him; he hadn't met any alternate universe versions of people yet and noticed all the other things that are subtly the same about them."

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"...he has a crush on Cam?"

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"Presumably."

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"I'm not sure I was supposed to presume that."

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"Right, sorry, that's not fair, if I'd met Cam when I was the-equivalent-of-his-age I would definitely have had a crush on him so I am guessing that he does."

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"No, no, I totally see it now you've gone and said it, I'm just not sure Timothy will thank you for telling me."

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"Your world has magic love potions? He was probably previously planning to get an advantageous political marriage and drug himself into doing right by whoever he chose for it and this would not have been good for him and I'm not going to enable him."

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"...and he has a crush on Cam who is secretly me please tell me I was not under consideration for that."

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"What? No, of course not, it'd upset you, that's completely disqualifying - we are competent at not hurting other people when we fold and spindle ourselves into social mores we know aren't worth the disks they're written on."

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"Just checking!"

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"He values you highly because you are one of in his case vanishingly few people who he trusts both morally and practically, people he can trust not just to competently do things he asks them to do but also to catch him when he misses things and call him out when he's wrong about things and maneuver around him if somehow it ever became necessary. He trusts you. He wants to and intends to and will in fact give you the world. But I guarantee he hasn't considered marrying you; he'd be bad at it, and we so hate being bad at people."

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"Okay. Thanks."

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"Sure. I am guessing you want to go compare notes with Cam now so don't let me impede that in the slightest."

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...nod nod. Off she goes.

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He will work on 1802 plans and listen in!

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They compare names and confirm commonality of the "three questions" and she informs him that Timothy has a crush on him.

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"Yeah, I know."

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"Well?"

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"I'm not in a great place to investigate that? Also he's seventeen."

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"That's of age."

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"And he had no qualms setting up his sixteen year old brother with a four hundred year old acquaintance of mine and he's not necessarily wrong, it's not a dealbreaker, but it should at least be discussed and I'm not in a good place to figure out how to discuss it."

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"Is that a 2179 thing or just an old people who aren't old thing."

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"Little of both I guess."

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"Well, you know your own mind."

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"Does your mom say that? What's her name?"

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"Nnenne. I don't talk about my dad around wizards - Timothy probably guesses -" Biographical details are matched.

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And then he'll ask Cam - "which of his brothers did Timothy set up with a demon acquaintance of yours?"

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"Michael."

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"Who is -"

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"Macalaurë. You didn't demand their names up front?"

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"Haven't matched everybody up with their alternate universe versions yet. I - don't think I should set up Macalaurë with a demon. Maybe humans are different."

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"She's a very musical demon, which I assume was a factor."

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"Even so. Timothy left me his notes on statute-overturning, I don't immediately see a way to speed it up but we can have a lot more positioned for when it happens, or underway in countries with fairly lax enforcement, should I send you logistics notes? - do you want advice on pursuing Timothy -"

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"Send me notes. I didn't get the impression I'd have to pursue so much as string a sentence together and maybe drop a book of 2170s sex ed in his lap because oh my god 1802."

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"You could probably do without a whole sentence. Or you could do just the books, that'd be clear enough. Notes sent."

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"If I can't produce a sentence I am too fucked up to attempt to date a closeted teenage wizard pre-Victorian you."

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"Are you?"

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"I'm getting better."

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"I noticed. I'm really glad."

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"Your mother was very kind about it."

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" - didn't want to recommend that lest it seem too much like orchestrating it but - yeah. She is. ...I did not get any people skills from my father."

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"You could have constructed them out of twine, I didn't know."

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"Twine's the wrong metaphor, something that buckles under pressure...I warned him."

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"He seemed concerned. I'm not sure I gave the fairest perspective though."

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"If I wanted to inspire fair perspective-giving I could have organized my priorities differently. I am sorry it inconvenienced you; we made the knowing decision to not take time off, no one else noticed, you are in a sense the only person wronged."

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"I was startled, not so much wronged."

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"Well. I apologize for being startling and am glad that this did not thwart my pre-industrial teenage human wizard alt from winning you over."

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...is Cam slightly pink?

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"...awwwww, what'd he do -"

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"Claimed that he could monologue for an hour about things he is grateful to me for. I was skeptical. ...He was mistaken but only by a factor of two."

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"That's adorable. ...he probably didn't have time to read everything, I'm sure he could get to an hour off only existing material once he's had time to get acquainted with all of it."

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Awwwwwww. "Since you and Miranda don't look anything alike I'm going to start checking if lots of random 1802 people are alts. It'll be awkward if they are, because from what Timothy says they won't get along with their Elf versions at all, but it'd be good to have a base rate."

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"I like my 1802 alt just fine."

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"I'm very impressed with mine. Maybe everyone in wizarding Britain is really all right and has been secretly pretending to be terrible, that'd be entertaining."

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"The mother of all common knowledge problems!"

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"Timothy'd have noticed. But maybe they're all in France or something, I take it there are happenings in France."

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"Everyone in France is terrible."

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"When you say things like that what you communicate to people outside the family is that you're dismissing them on that basis, instead of having assessed them for competence and decency and found every single one individually wanting."

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"Which he hasn't even done! This world has a lot more people than ours! I do not think I have a good way to check for alts in France."

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"Are you saying he doesn't actually just hate everyone in France for being French," Miranda wonders at Curufinwë.

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"No, of course he doesn't. See, kiddo, people don't know."

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"I don't hate everyone in France for being French!"

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"You could've fooled me!"

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"Well I wasn't trying to."

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"Well now I know. But I'm still not sure what you do mean when you say that because you actually can't have checked them all one at a time."

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"I have some exposure to French wizarding Events of Importance and it was universally negative, and in a cultural way, such that French individuals I liked would be doing a lot of rejecting of their society? Same's true of here, of course, only I do know people here who aren't terrible. And if some wizard in China said 'the British are terrible' I would not be hurt, I would sort of go 'yeah, good thing Timothy's gonna fix it?' so I don't mind saying the same about other places."

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"'The British' is different from 'everyone in Britain'!"

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"Yeah, okay, I hate the French."

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He sighs and shakes his head and starts reading wizarding newspapers for anyone who might be an alt.

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And he comes in. "Oh, Elf Timothy!"

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"Maitimo. Nice to meet you. Your alt's outside -"

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"Is he flirting with Amriac, that'd be really unfair -"

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"I doubt it."

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He heads outside.

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He in fact had barely noticed Amriac; he'd gone to the edge of the lake and started singing.

 

It's stunning.

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And Amriac has sure noticed him.

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The recorded symphony really didn't do it justice.

It's not fair.

 

Also it's beautiful. 

 

He stands there kind of blankly for quite a long time.

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Amriac has not noticed that Michael has emerged. She's just staring.

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What a good audience.

 

He stops and turns and smiles at them and says, "I do apologize, was this space in use for anything?"

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Amriac grins and shakes her head.

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Then he'll keep singing!

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Yaaaay!

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Aaaaaaaah!

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Eventually he reaches a good point to pause, and reclines on the grass and waits for the shellshocked admirers to say something.

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Amriac applauds. "You're very popular in Hell, I dunno if you knew that!"

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"I am delighted to hear it! We haven't done any summoning yet, Cam's the only person who knew how and he's been busy."

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"I'm Amriac."

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"Nice to meet you." He pats the grass next to him. "How did you end up dragged into this?"

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Plop. "Cam knows me from a little instrumental group we're both in and recommended me when Timothy wanted an extra demon to test summoning and then spy on your brother with and now I'm mostly just hanging out."

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"What do you play?"

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"The flute family plus sphereflute," she says, "and hammered dulcimer and hang drum and the violin family and I'm passable at shamisen. And piano and chiptones but not specially, just in the background sort of."

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"Ooooh, I was fairly obsessed with flute when I was your age, there're several hundred embarrassing little arrangements - I suppose Hell has everything already -"

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"We do! My orchestra was picking it all over together, my favorite was the second symphony. Of course we had to machine translate the lyrics, I'm sure they're better if you know the language."

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"If everyone wants to grab a summons for the Quenya, at least our machine translation really wouldn't do it justice, no. Most Elven music has lyrics because everyone sings it in the streets."

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"Summonses for Quenya would be terribly popular," nods Amriac.

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"And daeva'll be popular too, once we know how to grab you safely, Endorë is at least half rubble."

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"I heard a little about the war, it sounds awful."

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"Yeah. I'm working on a song. You can't go home, oh war hero, your children are afraid of you - it's not my most uplifting one."

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"I don't think I saw that one, did you get a chiplocked computer or just start it the other day or what?"

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"Chiplocked computer. Might want to trade some things, after all."

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"I like having my chiplocked computer but everybody else has one too these days," pouts Amriac.

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"Hell can only get 3000 years of my things for free, I'm sure they're really feeling deprived."

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"We're a very greedy species!"

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"I actually mostly got the computer for the interface, someone'll inevitably record the first performance of everything and that's perfectly fine. Withholding music from people seems terribly cruel. But I don't want people looking at work in progress, what if it's mediocre?"

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"Oh, I like drafts because people recycle snatches of them in later things and I like watching it evolve over time - and some people never declare something finished, since chiplocks got popular there hasn't been anything new from this one harpist I used to like, it was only ever stolen drafts -"

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"I finish things. At an Elf pace, admittedly, if demons are like humans you'll find us annoying that way."

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"We're more like humans than Elves, I think, we might be immortal but as a rule we enjoy instant gratification."

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"And you're mostly pretty young, sounds like."

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"There's old ones but we don't have better memories than humans or anything."

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"Huh. I don't know if we do, unenhanced, but everyone takes at least some enhancements."

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"Some demons'll probably chip themselves and try stuff."

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"They should keep in mind that unless they figure out some clever security trick we haven't, that means we'll have backups of them."

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"You will? From all the way there?"

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"Don't know if it works across dimensions, that hasn't been tested yet. Even if it doesn't, it'd catch them if they took summons to Arda."

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"Huh, good to know."

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"Chips're great but people should be informed about the risks, especially since I take it you guys are used to not having to think about risk much."

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"We really are!"

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"Valinor was like that, too. And then when things fell apart it turned out we had no idea how to handle it."

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"I remember there being a song about that."

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"There'll probably be more. I've been busy."

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Nod nod.

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He starts singing again.

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Eeeeeeee!

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He'll be doing that for the next two days or so!

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Amriac has an infinite supply of coffee and noplace to be until Michael wants to take her to meet dragons!

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Michael has gone inside.

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"You okay?"

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"wouldn't steal his extremely temporary casual girlfriend!"

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"Elves don't really do extremely temporary casual girlfriends - Elves mostly actually don't do premarital sex - so I think you're safe."

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"Wait, really - but he's thousands of years old -"

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"And you have probably had more romantic adventures than him, yes. ...it'd be the wrong narrative?"

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"...oh."

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"Wrong narrative?"

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" - my guiding principle for making decisions that are really important is that I should listen to Timothy. My guiding principle for making decisions that are not really important is - how satisfying I would find it to read an account of my actions? So I care a lot more about narrative, about movement, about new experiences, that kind of thing, than most people? It's not just that I like drama, it's that I want my life to be dramatically satisfying. If the - Elf understanding of a dramatically satisfying life is different then what I'd want is different."

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"The thing with Amriac is dramatically satisfying?"

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"- well, I'm also a teenage boy and she's pretty and she gave me all the music. But - yes. I would prefer to be the sort of person who summons a demon and takes her shopping and takes her to dragon preserves and is heartbroken when she gets bored."

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"...and your alt prefers...?"

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" - whatever his culture has as the matching narrative -"

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"A century of grieving for the destruction of our home planet. Or did you mean romantically?"

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"That is what she meant."

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"Same answer - he would not feel comfortable pursuing someone right now which is a fact about him, not about the right way to react -"

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"Sorry."

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"Sorry."

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Sigh.

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"A century? Really?"

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"Elves're fairly bad at getting over things."

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"Then it's a really good thing you have humans around. Dear god."

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"I mean, he'll do other things ever during the century, right?"

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"Yeah, definitely - we've all been working nonstop on the peace treaties and redrawn borders and reconstruction, and we were not planning to wait a hundred years to deploy whatever resources we can in your world. He just - won't do things that aren't time-sensitive and Elves do not conceptualize romance as time-sensitive."

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"I suppose it wouldn't be if people didn't think it was."

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"Exactly. If there are cross-species romances they will be full of hilarious misunderstandings - or, more likely, sad Elves going 'but I pined after her for five hundred years! what did I do wrong?' - but internally it satisfies everyone."

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"...maybe, before five hundred years pass, there should be an announcement that pining is not the same thing as courting, in case someone is confused."

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"It'd be inappropriate to announce right now, but yes, at some point I'll make sure people know that humans will not find it romantic to learn they have been passionately pined after."

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" - but then what do you do if you like someone and aren't ready to court them yet -"

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"Maybe you should ask your brother, I'm not really an expert on humans."

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"...Depends on why the holdup," Cam says.

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He sighs. "Anyway, Michael, to Elves the highest romantic narrative would be 'he hears someone singing and falls in love before he even sees her face, and vice versa, then something stops them from actually meeting, and they spend the next thousand years writing sad songs about the one to who their heart is truly given, and then they see each other again and marry that very day. So that's what Macalaurë will do, or, rather, what he trusts me to orchestrate once I meet the right person for him."

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"...I'm the most dramatic person I know and that is a bit much."

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"Are you actually going to orchestrate that. That's ridiculous."

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"If I meet someone who will make my brother very happy I will tell her that story without saying who it is I know who wants that, and because she is the person who will make my brother very happy she will probably say 'oh, oh, that'd be perfect' and then I will arrange it for them. If there are no people in all the worlds ridiculous enough to find that appealing, then I suppose he will be unattached forever."

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"This level of self-awareness about ridiculousness is actually weirder to me than the ridiculousness itself. I'd sort of expect it to dissolve on inspection, possibly because I happen not to like being ridiculous."

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"I think Macalaurë would say that he is - exacting, not ridiculous, and that if you are going to have billions of years together it makes sense to get the introduction right. I am entitled to call him ridiculous because I am his big brother."

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"- and were apparently also ridiculous about a girl, Cam said."

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"Did he. Ridiculous-because-of-being-in-pain is different than ridiculous-by-aethetic preference, but it would in fact be fair for people to call me ridiculous too, if they'd like."

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Miranda coughs, this not being the time for pedantic corrections.

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"Maybe you can find an alternate universe version of her who doesn't hate you."

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"He just said they're going to spend a century moping."

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"Oh, right. I'm really glad I'm not an Elf."

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...Cam coughs.

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"Hmmm?"

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"Alternate universe versions don't always match closely. It turns out I am a Miranda, for one thing."

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"- huh. Did you invent an alphabet for a language when you were eleven, Miranda invented an alphabet for Igbo and I looked up the one in Revelation and hers is better."

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"As it happens when I was eleven I was a monolingual English speaker. I'm not surprised she could improve on 'force this language into the Roman alphabet at all costs' though."

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He settles back, content that Miranda is the best of the alternate universe versions of Miranda.

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"But he did tell everybody in Revelation about daeva and end material scarcity so there's that. He doesn't usually tell people that."

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"- cool! Why don't you tell people?"

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"I didn't think it was safe, at first, which turned out to be correct because somebody found out anyway and murdered me, and then there was no reason to."

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"Someone murdered you?"

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"Walked into the classroom where I was teaching and shot me in the head."

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"We should summon him and dump him in the lake."

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"I don't see how that would help anything."

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"If he was okay with murdering people when he was a human and could suffer consequences for it, what do you think he's like as a daeva?! Also it'd make me happy."

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"I assume as a daeva he is typically surrounded by other daeva, who are indestructible and also unlikely to personally infringe on his economic interests in such a dramatic fashion."

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"He could take summons. Timothy should at least check - or Elf Timothy -"

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"I do actually keep track of adverse daeva incidents and none of them have been him."

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"That could just mean he hasn't had a chance yet."

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"That's possible, since I was killed only a little over a century and a half ago."

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"Well, most bindings don't let you murder people, right? And he might've lived a long time after he killed you."

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"Correct. However, his modus operandi was 'shoot a guy in front of a hundred and fifty eyewitnesses and then don't resist arrest and plead guilty', so I don't think he's some kind of serial killer mastermind, here."

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"Why -"

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"...why'd he kill me? He was making money off secretly summoning daeva and having 'em do stuff and he couldn't make nearly as much money that way when anybody could do it."

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"But murdering people and going to jail isn't a very good way to make money at all."

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"Yeah, if he was willing to kill people he could orchestrate a bunch of lethal daeva 'accidents', convince people it's too dangerous to try..."

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"I really think you are overestimating this fellow's creativity and long-term planning."

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"Being murdered by someone dumb in a way that doesn't even help them with their dumb goals is just so insulting."

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"That wasn't really in my top five complaints about the experience."

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"How does becoming a demon work -"

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"One second I was dead and the next I was a demon stark naked in downtown Dite and six people were asking me what languages I spoke."

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"...I'm sorry."

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"I mean, I like being a demon. My biggest problem was that my parents outlived me and I didn't get in touch with them before they went to Limbo."

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"They're all right these days. I don't think they would have been demons anyway and they got good Limbo stuff as Limbo stuff goes."

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"And next shipment to Limbo is going to have a bunch of magic goodies on it, if we can get Heaven to help us out."

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"Heaven here serving a trade intermediary purpose?"

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"They've got the next concordance and also Timothy was talking with them about ways to make the stupid goblets less so."

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"Goblets?"

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"Apparently there are goblets that duplicate every time you touch them. This is, on Earth, incredibly dangerous, but if you could figure out a way for them to duplicate with, like, a wrapper covering all but one hard-to-touch-by-accident section of the goblets, then you'd have as many goblets as you wanted without the thing where they immediately crush you under a mountain of gold. Experiments into this are ongoing in Heaven where the mountain of gold is not a problem."

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"Oh, neat. If that can be done with something more useful than goblets especially."

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"Looks like angels can change 'em around to some degree but not arbitrarily. I am excited about the potential for arbitrary quantities of various-forms-of-container, maybe better bricks or something as well, probably not clothes unless our local wizards invent a new spell for it..."

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"My dad says pillows are in particular demand, his couch usually doesn't have cushions on it, but that's hard to do in gold."

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"Yeah, if they change the material they lose the infinite-copying effect. We'll keep toying with things. I've sent everyone a list of all ongoing experiments, you can check up on us..."

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"Sure, thanks."

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"It's long but I doubt it's exhaustive, feel free to add things. Especially you wizards, I get the sense that lots of things about your magic aren't easily derived from reading your books about it so we're probably missing a lot there."

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"Is Macalaure going to be out there singing for days."

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"He's getting his share of the research into magical and Muggle governments of every country done, so probably yes."

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"Simultaneously?"

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"Attentional capacity blessings are really convenient."

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"They sound it."

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"We have people working on ones without the obvious drawback."

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"I'm still waiting for Michael to suddenly faint from his experimental brain surgery."

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"Different experimental brain surgery - we have the chips that make us resurrectable, as far as I know no one not an Elf has tried those ones yet."

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"Yes, but it would be hard to check for the same reason."

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"Ideally daeva'd lead the way but I'd really rather people trying it do so with informed consent, which means knowing it makes them forkable, which we probably shouldn't tell daeva..."

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"The problem is wizards may have magic brain architecture. I can't even test on basement dwellers and expect it to hold for wizards."

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"Hopefully they daevafy, that's a better solution than chips where it works..."

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It takes Timothy a few days to get everybody settled in on the Moon; the angels don't take that long to restore the prisoners to good physical health, and he sends them home when they're done. The Elves think they should stay at least medium-term, make sure the prisoners have people to talk to. The Elves still strongly disapprove of the 'prisoners' concept altogether but Maitimo was correct in predicting that they would do what Timothy said regardless of whether they thought it was right.

Which is vaguely worrying but he does in fact think these people belong in prison, so.

 

When he returns home it's to two hundred pages of research summaries and intervention proposals. "Wow."

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"Did I strike the wrong balance on how much detail to forward you, I don't know what not being chipped is like -"

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"Can't you turn it off? This is fine. Everyone getting along?"

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"Your brother's upset because Amriac hasn't left Macalaurë's side - he's out there singing - and you missed that Cam and Miranda are the same person, but other than -"

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"The same - oh."

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"I'd met Cam before he was sad."

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"I should probably still have noticed."

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"I think Cam's been reading things on the multiverse for the last thirty hours, if you want to go talk him into taking a break."

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"I don't know if -"

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"Yes."

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"Really?"

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"Could I lie to you - actually, that's an interesting question - I bet I could, come to think of it -"

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Cam is hanging out nearish Miranda; they are both reading things.

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"Moon things went well! Apparently you two are the same person?"

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"We are! Minor is now weirdly angry at the guy who murdered Cam!"

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"How bizarre! Is the guy who murdered Cam an ongoing concern in any respect?"

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"Nope!"

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"Then I will suggest to him that he find something that is. Though I bet he's busy, actually, I have forty pages of reading on interdimensional transit options and what's being pursued with them."

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"Lots to do. How's the moon prison doing?"

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"The prisoners have been restored to good physical condition and the angels are appalled with everything, as they should be. The prisoners seem confused about the concept of therapists - I'll confess I'm a little confused about the concept of therapists - but were happy to have people to talk to and assurance the Dementors weren't coming back. Buying this much time required admitting to the Hogwarts Board of Governors that I'm up to shenanigans and their interpretation of shenanigans was that I am the heir of Slytherin and have opened his secret chamber, but I don't think I care. There're still stray dementors out in the wild, if conjuring can get their surroundings it might be worth taking a demon and a fairy and going to pick 'em off. How've you been?"

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"I've been fine. Is there context around the heir of Slytherin thing?"

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"Uh, rumor has it that when Slytherin built the school he made a hidden chamber where - depending who you ask - there's either a library of dark magic or a terrible monster, and only his true heir can open it. As far as I know I'm not descended from Slytherin but I can see why people are guessing that, given what they do know."

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"If it's about descent you'd think having living parents would disqualify you even if you were thus descended. It's not inconvenient to be rumored to have opened this chamber?"

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"And does it interfere with your ability to cover for me?"

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"It is more inconvenient than being the darling Head Boy without a misdemeanor to his name but less inconvenient than explaining Milliways, and they're actually cancelling exams for everyone except those of us stuck with O.W.Ls and N.E.W.T.s, on account of the breakout, so even if I lose authority to cover for you you are covered for."

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"I don't see why they'd cancel over that when nothing's come of it."

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"Lot of families wanted their kids at home."

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"...I think Amber would have given Karen my letters if Nnenne had sent anything urgent..."

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"You told Karen that I'd whisked you off on suspicious premises, right? How much does she know after that..."

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"Yes I did but not much else except to panic if I stop writing her. I may have to visit at some point, she'll probably worry."

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"Might be worth it. At some point we have to close the door so I can study for my dreadfully neglected exams but I'm in no hurry."

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"I'm at a reasonable stopping place, I'll go do that now. Don't strand me. Oh, also, Maitimo is going around telling people you have a crush on Cam."

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"Which people, and did he say why -"

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"Me. I don't know about anyone else. Why you have a crush on him or why he told?"

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"Why he told -"

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"He said you had a plan involving love potions and he wasn't going to enable it because it would be unhealthy."

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"Well, sure, now that we've got better options - thank you for telling me -"

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"You're welcome." And off she goes.

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And he sits down and starts reading. "Maitimo says you haven't taken a break in a while, are you likely to take them as often as they'd be beneficial?"

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"I'm not actually well calibrated on that because occasionally I wind up deciding a given break was not beneficial."

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"- is everyone being okay?"

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"...I was actually thinking, like, nightmares."

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"Ah. Those I can't fix, whereas siblings and alts and Amriac I could scold. There're potions but I'm assuming -"

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"Even before I ever got summoned to Arda I often just didn't sleep, it's not a big deal. Also I think Amriac would ignore you and I'm not sure about Maitimo."

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"I don't think Amriac'd ignore Macalaurë and Maitimo'd listen to me on anyone I knew better than he did."

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"Do I count? He's known me longer."

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"We could compare notes, I suppose. I think he's been - running with a lot of pieces turned off for the last while."

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"...oh?"

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"I want to like people I get to know, I care about them a lot pretty fast, I'm invested - he's - assembling and maintaining functioning working relationships and leaving them there? Which would make me miserable and can be assumed to be making him miserable but I guess if you were ordering enough people out to risk a fate worse than death maybe that'd be the more efficient way to - organize my head - anyway I don't know if he'd say he knows you better."

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"He did notice the thing with Miranda. Miranda is neat, by the way. Very fond of you."

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"She's a good kid. I promised her a continent. When I take over the world, you know."

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"I think she may have been assuming that given recent events this should be adjusted for inflation."

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"Is she."

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"That is my professional altly impression."

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"We still haven't figured out how to reach any worlds unless their inhabitants happen to walk through the door."

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"She could have Mars."

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"Are we giving up on keeping wizards and daeva separated?"

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"I don't expect her to mind-control any daeva."

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"I expect her to have friends and loved ones who are wizards."

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"Yeah, I guess."

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"I'm not saying we're not going to end up ruling hundreds of universes each with whole populated galaxies and everything orchestrated so no mind control occurs at all, just that I promised a continent and do not yet find myself positioned to promise more of 'em."

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Nod.

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"And no one anywhere will have problems more serious than whether elephants are people and if so whether their underage sex is problematic."

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"No one can agree on what the age of majority for elephants might be, actually."

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" - wizards it's seventeen. I don't know what the Muggles do."

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"Depends on jurisdiction - well, I don't know about 1802."

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"One assumes it also depends on jurisdiction in 1802, and possibly also on gender, and the centaurs and giants and merfolk are self-governing."

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"Do they have humanlike aging?"

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"I'm actually not sure."

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"Also do centaurs have two hearts?"

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"Yes, why?"

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"Just seems weird. And two ribcages! These are things organisms don't usually have two of. Also that spinal angle looks uncomfortable if I think about it too hard."

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"I wouldn't argue the point with them, they're a bit touchy. Probably because wizards have been variously horrible to them over the centuries, that's usually the reason though I don't know much about centaurs in particular."

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"Well, I can't talk, my tail technically involves a fork from the spine near the tailbone."

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"Your tail is adorable."

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"Thanks."

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"Also that smile. Are you quite sure 2179 hasn't criminalized being that aggressively adorable on the grounds it'll make the mole rats feel bad about themselves? Ugly animals, mole rats, but they too deserve their fundamental human rights!"

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"It's actually 'personal rights' or 'sapient rights' now, specifically for elephant etcetera reasons. Mole rat self esteem has not to my knowledge featured in jurisprudence lately."

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"Maybe we can point Theodore's alt there."

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"That the next youngest after Michael?"

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"Yeah. You haven't met him yet because he'd want a demon too and I am less confident that one ends well."

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"And his alt has a pet Maia."

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"Who can talk to animals, apparently. Revelation'd love him and it might be good for him but."

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"But I should probably not be involved."

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"Yeah. If you have some masochistic impulse to know what he'd say I can just tell you."

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"I'll let you know if I come over all self-destructive."

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"And I'll probably decline to help if you do, so."

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"It would be such a well-reasoned self-destruction though. I'd have charts."

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"I would like to register in advance my skepticism of the charts. You'd have to be doing some seriously misleading accounting."

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"I probably won't actually though. Seems silly."

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"Won't self-destruct? No, I don't think so. Your opinion of yourself is too anchored in reasonable things like how much you have accomplished and have the potential to accomplish and how good at being correct you are and so on. I think I might, if it were me, but that's a thing wrong with me, the same thing wrong with me that made my alt worry I'd take love potions..."

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"Was he wrong?"

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"I was going to take over the world. I wasn't going to wrong anyone aside from me along the way. The rest of the details were sort of fill-in-as-you-go."

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"Miranda took the assertion plus the information that you had a crush on me and the thing where we're alts and was briefly concerned but your alt said that wasn't ever on the table. I also figure you know Minor likes her. She doesn't; I'm not sure she'd appreciate it till fourteenish."

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"Oh - what, no, that'd definitely count as wronging people other than me, there are women who wouldn't really care but she would and also yes Minor wrote our father within I think two months of starting at Hogwarts saying 'Miranda is smart and right about things most of the time and has the best insights on our Charms experiments and invented an alphabet, is that how you pick a girl to marry?' -

 

- our father said you should wait and see if you also wanted to kiss her, which is I think what he is waiting for."

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"It's kinda cute."

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"It's adorable. Michael was I think envious that he didn't think of picking the girl he was going to marry in the first two months of classes but that wouldn't have gone nearly as well."

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"I mean, he still has to convince Miranda at some point."

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"And he may well fail or either of them may end up inconveniently oriented but he can at least consult lots of people on how to give it a proper attempt."

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"I wonder if he can pull off the half an hour of compliments thing."

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"Does it count for less if he writes them up in advance?"

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"No, it's different but in a way orthogonal to quality."

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"Then I bet he can manage. - or if all half an hour gets one is an adorable smile, how long should he make it if he wants her to kiss him -"

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"...I think Miranda's exchange rate here is gonna be different."

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"I will give her lots of opportunities to rack up amazing accomplishments she need not feel at all complicated about."

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"Thank you."

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"I'm really glad there are several of you."

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"We're enjoying it too."

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And he returns to reading.

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Cam's tail swishes once and then he does too.

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Approximately the next subjective day he has hundreds of catalogues from hundreds of worlds and is flipping through them to check for things that might make them a bad idea to offer to demons. (Uterine replicators: no! Sentient locals who hatch from eggs: no!)

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Artificial intelligence: no! Stun weapons: ...maybe!

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"Put everyone who wants to muck up the Hell-Heaven concordance to sleep and see if you can invent something better?"

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"That was my thought, but it'd destabilize other detentes."

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"Yes, suppose it might. Ones that knock a daeva out for thirty seconds have less potential for abuse than ones that'll do half an hour, if there are any of those..."

 

Probable no to this extremely addictive drug which modifies your personality permanently! No to another egg species - "that's multiple sets of hatching humanoids, weird -"

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"It wouldn't be hard to set up automatic firing for brief stuns and someone could engineer an improvement."

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"Is Revelation all that far off from developing something like that anyway? You'd think they'd be motivated to get it working on daeva specifically..."

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"They try sometimes, nothing too promising yet."

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Nod. "...the other thing I want to check is whether you can in fact take chips back with you, it affects what we need to tell people about being careful. Do you know anyone you'd trust to test that?"

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"...not to quite the necessary standard. To test it sure, to not let on they had a secret..."

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"They wouldn't need to know the bit where we can make them, but if you think the idea might otherwise not be getting around and we'd be risking introducing it..."

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"It'll occur to someone but I'd rather it not occur to someone who might notice I was involved in experimenting with it."

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Nod. "Could also test it with an angel, they presumably have fewer avenues to do anything malicious with it even if they wanted to."

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"Yeah, that'd be safer. I am less able to make personal recommendations."

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"Timothy has a bunch of friends, I'll ask him. 

 

Had any success at stringing together a sentence?"

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"No. I'm increasingly tempted to skip it and go with 'drop book, flee' but that seems like a bad plan."

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"Suboptimal plan, maybe. How do people do this in Hell, 'let's sing a duet' is presumably not the answer."

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"It depends on what they're trying to do and what they're trying to do is never 'date a wizard from 1802'!"

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"Yes, I'm sure, but 'so if we were in Hell and I wanted such-and-such I would issue an invitation to this-or-that what is your cultural equivalent' is a perfectly good opener."

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"Hell is also not an internal cultural monolith but I take your point."

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"When I have more free time I'm going to be fascinated by daeva cultures. But anyway. If you like him, say so, he's very confused about what more he is supposed to do at this point and mildly worried humans just aren't pretty enough for people with enough Elf exposure."

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"I had to start aggressively ignoring Elf prettiness on day one because it's just kind of stupidly everywhere, I have not been ruined for the company of other species - I didn't mean to confuse him."

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"I know. That's why I thought I'd say something. That and that you two'd be cute together."

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"Thank you."

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"Ooooh, look, this species doesn't hatch from eggs, they hatch from pods. Bother. And they had such good music and literature, too."

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"How much music and literature are you pausing to take in per world?"

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"Read a couple works, listen to a couple songs - I still have the attentional capacity needed to run an empire, and there are fewer than a hundred people here, so I've been spinning my wheels, if in fascinating directions..."

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Cam nods.

And finishes sorting his pile of catalogues and goes looking for Timothy.

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He's very reluctantly studying for his N.E.W.T.S. His books fly away. "Oh, Cam!"

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"...did I scare your books?"

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"Terrified them. They're very shy. It takes me hours to coax them off the shelves. I suppose there's no point in trying to get any more studying done today."

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...Cam laughs and sits down.

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"I didn't mean to confuse you."

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"I didn't think so. I - want you to have time, if you need it."

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"I... need a lot of things but I don't think any of them are currently 'keeping my distance from you'."

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Well in that case he will stand up and walk over and kiss him. 

 

A bit clumsily.

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Kissing technique cannot be competently taught in books anyway. It's a practice thing.

Kiss.

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"...'I want to give you the world' was more satisfying to say to people when I thought there was only the one."

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"People? Several of them? They'd have to share?"

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"Oh, I never said it, just imagined it. When I was optimistic about not needing to get married to take over the world."

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"About that, I tend not to kiss married people."

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"Oh, if I couldn't get absolutely everything I want with no compromises with this much magic I'd have no business ruling anything bigger than an elephant herd. I'm not going to pretend anymore."

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"You keep coming back to the elephants. I promise elephants don't devote this much thought to you."

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"I find it deeply reassuring that when people are safe and their lives are good they choose to care about more things. The elephants make me very happy."

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"That's cute."

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Kiss. "So - what do you need -"

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"The obvious, pretty much. Put back Elves, figure out something about the Maiar, maybe take out Melkor oath notwithstanding if that's doable without activating the self-defense clause."

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Nod. "If the Killing Curse works on him I have a feeling I could muster the relevant sentiment."

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Nod.

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Squeeze. 

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Wings: useful for putting around wizards from 1802.

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Wizards from 1802 have yet to do anything irregular or obviously 1802! Maybe they had romance novels to read.

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"So is my guess about why you wanted the romance novels about right..."

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"Wanted an idea of how to avoid hilarious misunderstandings, yes. I know not to take them seriously but they're usually - suggestive - of the expectations of the societies that produce them."

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"I should probably also provide you with a sex ed book before it becomes relevant because the alternative is probably a really weird conversation. Or the top ten curated erotica list, but that'd be even more misleading than the romances."

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"Sex ed? How 2179. I would be delighted to have a book."

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"This actually occurred to me a while ago so I narrowed it down but the one I could find that assumed the least background from a highly sexually open culture is actually aimed at twelve year olds, would you rather have that one or do some guesswork in the context gaps."

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"I would rather bask in delight that this was a question you gave a great deal of consideration over the last few weeks. Uh, maybe not something aimed at twelve-year-olds -

- uh, if it'd be culturally considered misleading not to mention, or something, I was - when I was learning to throw off the Imperius -"

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"...that was not an obligatory disclosure but I will hug you if you want."

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"You're already hugging me," he points out, nonplussed.

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"Yes, I will also hug you if you want when you have not just said that sort of thing. I will in general hug you if you want, deal with it."

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"I expect that to be totally straightforward to deal with, somehow?" Kiss. 

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Kiss!

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"I expect my family to take it okay but in case I am wrong should I avoid telling them in a way that says anything about you?"

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"I'm pretty sure I have already casually indicated that I'm bisexual in front of your dad and Minor, although if it's not an accessible concept maybe they brushed it off and your dad may not have been listening. - But have a care for Miranda if the implications could hurt her, she doesn't even know yet."

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" - oh, yeah, good point - does everyone match so far -"

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"I haven't been quizzing them all. Miranda and I might easily not, we're much less closely paired than your family is with your alts. Like, if I weren't bi I wouldn't even know whether to expect her to match in label or in target."

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Nod. "I'll ask Maitimo about whether various other people match - or maybe Bar'd know and if it's not a tendency we can spread that around, if it is - I think I'll ask Miranda what she wants. It could hurt her, but things are going to be changing very fast."

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"Yeah, she'll know more about what she'll be navigating than I would."

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"Yeah, I caught that from the romance novels."

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"Oh, did the top ten list include a heartwarming coming out story or something?"

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"It was a secondary plot, actually, and clearly very self-congratulatory about the fact it was present, so you could tell it was a recent thing...people are so delightful, I really did enjoy the books."

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"Yeah, it was new enough around then that I was mildly nervous about telling my dad. Not my mom, she was obviously going to be fine. He turned out to be fine too."

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"...I think under non-Milliways circumstances my mother would have said 'I love you and you're going to have to make some hard choices about who you want to be' and my father would have said 'I always thought you were too good for politics, now you'll have to do something worthwhile with your life' and it would have been - much better than it could have been but not helpful. For Muggles it's a religion thing?"

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"By and large, yes, at least the way the political coalitions lined up. That and a generic disgust reaction I guess, I think religion wasn't too deeply into it before it was meaningfully controversial?"

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Nod. "Limbo must be a culturally fascinating place. - are Miranda's parents alternate universe versions of yours?"

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"- yes."

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...nod.

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"Different grandparents though."

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"We're the same up through my grandparents but different great-grandparents. That might be because you kind of need my grandfather's situation to produce my father. Does being a different race affect your personality at all, the way being a different species seems to, or is it pretty much superficial -"

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"It's hard to sort out '1802', 'black', and 'British'. And 'female'. And 'witch'. But given that all those things are in play they added up to surprisingly little once we started talking."

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"I'm surprised I didn't think of it. I did notice how many quirks you had in common - are you less clumsy because there's a 2179 fix for it, or is it just practice -"

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"It's actually the wings and tail. Probably practice too, but mostly the wings and tail."

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"The wings and tail are really really cute."

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"Made 'em myself. Albeit after picking 'em out of a catalog."

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"It's more how you move them. I really like seeing you happy."

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Wag.

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Kiss.

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Kiss! "Uh, keep me up to date on display of affection protocols if you need to break it gently to somebody before they notice."

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"I should have that conversation with Miranda."

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Nod. Unwingwrap.

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And a while later, with a conversational privacy spell, "hey, Miranda?"

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"Yeah?"

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"The existence of alts is sort of inconvenient for various forms of sensitive information and I'm trying to figure out how to handle that."

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"Do you mean the thing where Maitimo said you had a crush on Cam. Because that could be solved by just not saying things like that."

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"No, I mean more - so far, everyone matches, and Cam's bi, and you I assume don't know yet, but might not want people concluding that either way -"

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"Me and Cam are not very matchy. For instance I am a girl. I guess people might be stupid about it but I'm not sure how a stupid person would even notice we were supposed to match in the first place."

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"I noticed. It might be no one will assume anything but I thought you deserved some control over it."

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"I think it'll be okay as long as the alts thing isn't casually advertised to stupid people."

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"Can do. ...Maitimo is fine saying things about us but he wouldn't say things inferred using people skills about you, if you were worried."

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"That's good."

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"Althood sort of stretches the definition of our own business but we can mind our own business, and peoples' personal lives or families aren't."

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"Anyway, that's all I wanted to ask you."

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"Okay."

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"Thanks."

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"What for?"

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"...your time? I asked you how to handle it, you gave advice?"

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"You're welcome."

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And back to work. 

 

"- I should probably let Theodore and Fredrick study for their O.W.L.s in here," he says to Cam at one point, "since it's my fault that the school and Board and most of society has been in a very disruptive uproar all week and they've been covering for Michael and I instead of studying."

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"Seems reasonable."

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"After exams I'm going to have to pull a lot of favors to get continued access to Hogwarts. Usually it'd just be a matter of inventing an ongoing research project but the Ministry's terrified by the Azkaban breakout - I'd tell them where to look but they're rounding up all the wild Dementors to help with the search and that's by far the most efficient way for all the wild Dementors to be rounded up, so I'm thinking we steal those and then explain ourselves..."

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"How does one round up a Dementor?"

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"They can understand conversation, though they don't talk - presumably they're promising them lots of people to feed on in exchange for help tracking down the escaped ones - it's possible they have internal experiences and being alone in deep space is unpleasant for them, maybe we can eventually find a synthetic emotional fuel source for 'em."

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"Yeah, if they're bright enough they can make economic bargains they should probably warrant some consideration even if they're awful nightmare thingies."

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"They are in fact awful nightmare thingies but there's probably some way to give them some of what they want, somewhere in the multiverse."

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"And then we can feel very magnanimous, feeding the awful nightmare thingies responsibly-sourced nutrition."

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"It's the same principle that makes me so fond of the people who care about elephants - having enough resources that you can give the prisoners visits with their mothers and the nightmare things ethically-sourced happiness and everyone who might even potentially matter careful moral consideration - that you don't have to compromise, ever again..."

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"I read your books."

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"Were they very confusing?"

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"Whenever they were very meticulous about using a concept of 'gender' that does not correspond to anything I could figure out I got a little lost but the rest I could piece together."

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"If you want context on that one I could find something but it's not actually applicable here far as I know."

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"I will probably familiarize myself before we're in a position to be setting policy, because if it is a thing that will matter to people then we should get it right to start with, but it didn't seem especially urgent, no."

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Nod.

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"Did I convince you on the age differences thing when we were discussing Michael, because that was mentioned too -"

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"...pretty much but I do feel compelled to point out the irony of you calling your cousin who is two years younger than you 'a kid'."

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"He is. It's not exactly an age thing but it is a thing which matters. I wasn't a kid at fifteen but I also wouldn't have said anything to you."

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"...what is the thing you're pointing at then?"

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"Hmm, I think - whether a relationship would compromise either person's ability to notice if they were happy and if they endorsed what was going on? Which is partially a maturity thing but not entirely, and I don't think people who don't have that figured out should necessarily avoid relationships but I wouldn't date them because - well, that much responsibility for someone's wellbeing given there are any circumstances under which I mess up -"

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"Fair enough."

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"I think I handle pressure better than Elf me who grew up in paradise but I do not want to assume I am perfect at it and I find it very reassuring that if I were careless you'd notice."

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"Yeah, I am more of a pushover in standard conversational modes than I used to be but I don't think that will extend that far."

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Kiss. "That might have been part of my motive for insisting really vehemently that it was reasonable to believe yourself entitled to me specifically taking you as seriously as before -"

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"I did actually buy your explicit argument for that so you can't get out of it if you dump me."

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"It was a correct argument," he says smugly. "I don't want out of it and I intend to point it out to other people it reasonably applies to."

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Kiss.

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Yes, more of that. 

 

 

And then he will go tell his brother and his cousin that thank-you-very-much-for-covering-for-him-lately there's a magic time-stopping bar if they want to study for their O.W.L.s. Which they do.

 

Fredrick stares at Maitimo kind of a lot. Timothy makes a point of mentioning, as he arranges rooms for them, that Maitimo is a thousands-of-years old Elf and Elves are weird and in particular they are going to be mourning this war that just happened for the next few decades, isn't that funny, it came up because this girl who was dating Michael was interested in dating the Elf Michael but the Elf Michael is not dating people for the next. Several. Decades. And neither is Maitimo. 

Fredrick still stares at Maitimo kind of a lot. Maitimo gets him a computer and talks excitedly at him for several hours about proposals to handle Muggle disease outbreaks. This does not help at all. Maitimo can be presumed to know how much this is not helping so Timothy refrains from saying anything. The proposals are very well-thought-through.


Eventually they all decide they have studied enough for their exams, and float a napping Minor over to the door so they can actually take them.

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"Good skill, as they say in Arda."

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"- huh. I like it." Off for exams! They involve turning some kittens into teapots; he inquired about bringing his own kittens and was told that wouldn't be an acceptable solution because of the potential for cheating somehow. 

 

 

The Ministry has stationed Dementors on the Hogwarts grounds to help in the search for the Azkaban escapees. They are too far away to interfere with the exams, but he gets a glimpse through the window and pleasantly anticipates boxing them and sending them off far away.

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Cam hangs out in the main bar with a glass of lemonade and some reading material, watching Minor to make sure he doesn't roll away from the door in his sleep.

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He is a very stationary napper, except when he mumbles in his sleep about electricity. 

 

 

He also makes a sort of distressed noise when a Dementor approaches down the hallway, but Cam cannot see Dementors and could not possibly interpret that as anything but a nightmare, at least not at first.

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Cam is not quite interpreting distressed noises at the moment.

(Miranda's upstairs, the Fëanáros are upstairs, most of the others are in the backyard or out in Hogwarts -)

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The Dementor does not enter the bar, just stops curiously at the doorway. The cloak is moving as if in a wind, though Muggles can't see that, and no one around has ever been happy, in their whole lives, and everything they will ever experience from now on is the worst moment of their life, over and over -

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Cam is indestructible.

Pity, that.

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- and here's an Elf who did mass installations of sewage and water treatment systems back when they were needed in Valinor, and volunteered to come here and help develop plans to do the same on Earth, and the worst moment of his life is not quite bad enough to be incapacitating (the moment they learned the war was over was not a happy moment, but it was not a hopeless one, either) -

- "uh, Security?" he says, "uh, Curufinwë - whatever your name is - Curufinwë, wake up -" 

- and a moment later there's a loud knock on Miranda's door - "you're a wizard, right, something's gone wrong, fix it -"

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"Witch," reflexively, then, "what, what is it -?"

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"- mind control spell or something but not the one that's supposedly pleasant, it was really terrible, couldn't get not-prince-Curufinwë to wake up -"

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She steps out into the hall and makes for the stairs. "Terrible how -"

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"- it seemed like everything that had ever happened was terrible, and everything would be terrible no matter what so there was no point in doing anything about it -"

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"...they're not supposed to be in the building - I know the spell but - is Michael still around, I know the spell but I've never been able to make it work -"

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"I don't know where he is and none of you people have chips if you know his room we can go find him -"

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"Did you try Security?"

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"I said 'Security' - don't know how to get their attention - how do people without chips even do anything ever -"

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- and heads down the stairs.

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Everything is terrible! Everything in her life was terrible, and everything always will be!

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Is that fucking so.

She descends the last couple stairs - Minor twitching in his sleep, Cam staring glassily into space looking like tears would be an insult to his grief -

She knows the wand motion and she knows the incantation and she is in a timestopping bar that reaches into a gazillion other universes full of strange magic and opportunities and people and "Expecto Patronum!"

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And it's - gone. 

 

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...wait, really?

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He shudders violently, wakes up - "wha-"

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The glowing figure is still standing in the doorway directly over him.

"Minor! Are you okay?"

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"I -" blink - "yeah - what happened - hey, I didn't know you had a Patronus - I didn't know you could have a humanoid Patronus either - what happened to Cam -"

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"A dementor happened to Cam but I think I killed it and I didn't have one before but I guess I do now." She goes over to Cam and puts her hand on his shoulder. He doesn't stir. ...She waves her Patronus over with her wand and it does the same thing. That doesn't help either.

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He comes down the stairs holding her note - "is everything okay -"

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"I think I killed it? But - I don't know what to do about Cam -"

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"Uh, if he wasn't apparently you I'd say this is the situation for cheering charms? But I vividly remember you flipping out about those - uh - Stupefy?" - because Cam still looks like he's in an awful lot of pain -

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That works.

For about forty seconds, then - well, he doesn't move, but you can kinda tell -

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- he can't send Timothy a message in the middle of his exams - 

"Uh. It didn't kiss him, right -"

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"I don't think it even came in through the door or Minor'd be shivering - you're not really cold, right, Minor -?"

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"Not really, no - I had a bad nightmare but that was - it - it was in the hallway when you killed it? - oh - Bar, did the Dementor come in, can you tell -"

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It did not enter or Security would have apprehended it for unauthorized use of a hostile psychic aura.

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"But that doesn't apply if people in the bar are being affected by the hostile psychic aura, as long as it's technically outside? That's stupid - sorry -"

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"- should I keep him stunned until we think of something -"

 

- word has spread and now more people are coming downstairs.

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"...yeah keep him stunned till we have a better idea."

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"Sorry -"

 

(Michael stuns Cam again -)

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"You didn't turn a dementor loose in Hogwarts in the first place - who even does that -"

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(Stun again) - "they were around the grounds looking for escapees but they weren't supposed to be allowed anywhere near the school -"

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"Ugh. What time is it in our world now, I was upstairs -"

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"Nearly sundown, exams should be over soon if they're not yet - Timothy can probably fix everything -"

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"Okay. I'll... leave this here... in case any more Dementors show up... and if he's not here soon I'll go out with it and look for him -"

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He stuns Cam. He explains to the gathering audience of mostly-Elves what happened.

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And he sees a crumpled Dementor-cloak on the floor in the hallway -

- and a crowd of people, all looking very shaken-up, and Cam -

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"...so it turns out I can kill Dementors."

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" - well, that's useful - why was there a Dementor here at all -"

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"I don't know and I don't know what to do about Cam, if Michael stops stunning him he's just kind of -"

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He crosses the room. He does not collapse on the ground next to Cam that would be undignified he floats Cam up to his level and then pulls him close and - "either stop stunning him or describe it well enough I can actually do something -"

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"- he looks like he wishes he could die."

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"I want two people on the door from now on," he snaps - the assembled wizards mostly ignore him but a couple Elves go to sit next to Minor - kind of disconcerting, that -

 

- "Imperio," he whispers - 

 

- it doesn't go - 

- he tries wrapping his brain around it better - he wants to make this person an extension of his will he does it counts stupid mandatory evil spell -

- nope -

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"Michael thought maybe Cheering Charms but they might just be - confusing -"

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"Yeah this'd work better if it worked but it looks like I can't cast it - possibly can't cast it on him at all but definitely not with the expectation that he will be okay and then immediately throw it off -"

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"- you cast it on him before and then he said he didn't want you to do it anymore and if you do it anyway then he knows you substitute your judgment for his and you didn't even ask me, he will not be happy -"

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" - I told him at one point he could lie to me any time it'd be useful for stupid spell with a motive test purposes but that I was inconveniently really hard to lie to - thank you for trying, though -"

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" - Obliviate," says Michael to his brother, and then when Miranda shoots him an outraged glance - "I can never get it to stick longer than five minutes and he won't be mad about a temporary one - try it again - Confundo -"

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...Miranda repeats herself.

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Great so he can have Cam who can't trust him back -  malicious intent, malicious intent, his head is weirdly fuzzy probably the panic but he settles his brain into intending to hurt Cam to get him back - and not let go, he couldn't do this intending to ever let go -

"Imperio -"

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- Cam does not look like a deathwish when next allowed to wake.

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Miranda relaxes.

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He takes a deep breath. 

His head is still annoyingly fuzzy.

He squeezes Cam's hand. 

 

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Well, if he wants Cam to squeeze back then Cam will do that.

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Yep. He wants Cam to close his eyes and pretend to be relaxedly sleeping, trying to get him to explain to the onlookers might be pushing the spell too far -

"He mentioned earlier that it had a very soothing effect," he says quietly to everybody. "Thought it might snap him out of it. I think it'd be better for him not to be surrounded by panicked people when he wakes up - if you don't mind -"

The Elves leave.

The wizards totally don't leave.

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"- are you two dating -"

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"Uh - we - were?"

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"Awwwwwwwwwww."

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"That explains a lot!"

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"You could have told us, you know, people actually generally like someone better when they know they're not literally perfect in every way."

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Cam rests his head on Timothy's shoulder and closes his eyes and exhibits total relaxation.

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...quite apart from being an asinine remark this really isn't the time, Michael, Miranda doesn't comment aloud.

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"Well, consider yourselves told and leave us alone."

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Miranda shoos.

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He'd like Cam to accompany him upstairs. 

 

He's not going to do anything wrong he's just going to hold him compared to having Imperiused him against his will it does not seem likely Cam will object to having been cuddled -

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Cam follows him upstairs and snuggles up.

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Fantastic. 

 

Can he even get meaningful answers to - "do you know what's going on?"

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Distantly - "No -"

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He should stop it, of course, but he did it by sincerely intending not to, intending never to - not that he expects Cam to find this a good reason -

- his head is still fuzzy why is his head so fuzzy -

 

 

 

 

- oh -

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Snuggle.

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He would like Cam to kiss him he would not like Cam to kiss him Cam is probably getting such confusingly mixed signals - 

 

- he sits up and puts his head in his hands and whimpers and sorts out the actual chain of events -

 

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"- mmf?" mumbles Cam at the confusing mixed signals.

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"Even 1802 has figured out that this is super evil," he says, and pets him, and tries to have uncomplicated preferences about what Cam is doing while he thinks - 

 

- okay. He wants Cam to go find Michael and tell him that Miranda's father's a Muggle and her mother a Muggle-born.

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Cam instead burrows a little further into the snuggle and sighs.

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- okay. 

 

- no deathwish, though? -

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Hard to tell with his face smushed against Timothy like that. It's... convenient that he doesn't have to breathe?

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He feels terrifically convenienced.

 

Cuddles.

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"Thanks," Cam murmurs into Timothy's robes.

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Oh good he still hadn't been entirely sure - 

"It's dead, Miranda killed it. If you missed that bit."

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"- what's dead? What happened?"

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" - that was a Dementor."

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"Oh."

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"A Dementor that is now dead, we didn't even know that was possible."

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"Good for Miranda."

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"Yeah. You should let her know you're okay, when you are in fact okay. - what did it do -"

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"It was - the part when I was watching the planet crumple and I couldn't change my mind any more and even if I checked my mail and in the three seconds since I'd last checked it someone had sent a desperate message to abort - something wrong with the oath, some way to kill Melkor or sabotage the uploads, some excuse - too late, it was always going to be a thing I did - and right then for just a second I was convinced there'd be a letter like that when I checked -"

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Squeeze. 

 

"I'm so sorry."

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"You helped. It's okay."

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"I mind-controlled you while believing you wouldn't be okay with me doing that. Very helpful."

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"You say that as though it is somehow false."

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"I just - you can in fact be upset by that if you want, it wouldn't be unreasonable -"

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Snuggle.

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Snuggle.

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"What happened after she killed it?"

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"- I was still in exams - everyone came running and you looked really awful so they had Michael repeatedly stunning you - Michael asked Miranda if he should try a cheering charm, she was worried it'd just confuse you - I came back - they explained what was going on - I thought this'd work to snap you out of it so I tried to cast it and couldn't - told Miranda that - she tried to convince me that you wouldn't be okay with it, that - you told me not to do it again and I hadn't even asked her permission and you'd be angry - she was lying, I noticed - I thanked her for trying - 

- then Michael erased the last thirty seconds and Confunded me and had her try again and that time I didn't notice she was lying so I believed her and then I could cast it and then my family noticed I was gay and then I told everyone to go away and brought you here - 

- uh, we just cuddled, if you don't remember -"

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"I remember all the parts after you cast it. It's fine." Snuggle.

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"As long as it's actually fine and not just 'who am I to complain about ethics -"

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"...I am a bit wrung out, and, like, it would be hypocritical to deny you the chance to have a moral crisis but can you do it later."

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"Sure, sorry -"

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"Thanks. - should probably send Miranda a note if you can do that without getting up."

Snuggles. They are very important.

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He can do that without getting up.

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And then he can be snuggled more. Cam seems to be debating the wisdom of falling asleep on him.

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"I didn't have plans for the rest of today."

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"Good. - Is there magic for nightmares -"

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"Yeah - potions -" he waves the door open. He Accios one.

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Cam sits up enough to swallow and quaffs the potion and collapses on Timothy.

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He holds him for a while and then falls asleep as well.

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Cam's still asleep when Timothy wakes.

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He writes everybody else letters letting them know that Cam threw off the Imperius Curse basically the instant Timothy tried to make him do anything except lie down and relax - not that he expects them to take his word for it, considering - and here are future precautionary measures please comply, and here is how to recognize a Dementor for everyone who can't just see them. 

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Two of these - modified to take into account that their recipients missed all the drama - find their way out to the lake. 

 

He has eventually taken a break from singing to ask Amriac if she minds making them both dinner. He reads the note over dinner. "- do you happen to know what the Imperius Curse even is -"

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"Some mind control spell. There's this guy who's into that sorta thing, they were testing if it worked on daeva."

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"- huh. Maybe I should spend some time inside, don't want to miss all of the adventure."

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"There's lots going on but it's hard to keep track of so I'm just focusing on the interesting bits."

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"That's fair enough. I'm mostly doing the same but would like to be informed enough not to miss any interesting bits."

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"Sure," Amriac says agreeably.

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"Shall we go in?"

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"Sure." Inwards!

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Where things are fairly chill! There're some Elves at the (closed) door. Michael is idly levitating things and shifts to idly levitating things while idly glaring at the two of them. 

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"Uh," says Amriac to Michael. "What?"

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"You missed all the excitement. There was a dementor! There was a lot of not-exactly-consensual use of dark magic! Apparently Timothy and Cam are involved."

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"- huh."

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"Awwww."

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"Also I don't know how long it's been for the two of you because Milliways doesn't do time consistently, but it's been a week and a half in here."

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"Oh, wow, not that long, like a few days?"

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"Ah. Do Elves not sleep."

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"Less than humans. Does everyone else have rooms arranged in here?"

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"You should probably telepath your brother, I dunno."

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" - he says yes, they can make the rooms pretty enough at least for the time being. The Moon arcologies are prettier so apparently it's a popular assignment."

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"I'd be down for more experimental brain surgery if they get those things working in Muggle humans."

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"They're very useful. - they're not where the species difference in musical aptitude comes from, though."

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Am I that obnoxious, he refrains from asking. "Uh huh."

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"What is it then?" wonders Amriac.

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"Not sure. I thought it might just be the absence of humans who were older than a hundred but if it were that you'd think daeva'd find Elves less impressive."

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"We were pretty excited when humans invented audio recording so we could figure out what their music was supposed to sound like, too."

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"Do you think that's all there is to it?"

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"Novelty is important! I don't know if that's all..."

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"I guess we'll see soon enough."

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"In, like, a century?"

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"Or a few, yeah...also depends how many other worlds get publicly known..."

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"What a time to be alive," says Amriac. "Anyway why were you glowering at me, Michael."

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"Among we mortal species vanishing for a week and a half is bad manners but I guess if it wasn't a week and a half for you you're excused. I was glowering at him because he is full of himself and it's obnoxious."

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"We are the same person."

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"Yeah that's most of what makes it obnoxious."

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"You could've come out and said hi, you know."

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"It would've been a little awkward sitting there while you hit on him."

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Amriac rolls her eyes and sighs and goes over and plops herself into Michael's lap. "Don't let's be jealous, I don't think he even noticed and you haven't made the slightest implication you wanted me to yourself even if I were in the market for that."

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"You can hit on as many people of all species and genders as you please but I will probably not hang around listening. Especially not if they are better at music than me; if you hit on people who are not as good at music as me I might be content to amusedly watch."

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"All right. Well, he hasn't taken me shopping, so there's that."

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"Also his brother thinks he plans to spend a century moping."

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"My home world was recently fed into a black hole."

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"You should know that most demons really wouldn't do that," Amriac says, "not a planet with mortals on it I mean, occasionally planets in Hell get holed but that's nothing we can't fix."

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"I don't take issue with demons as a species. I don't even take issue with the specific situation, I helped Cam look over the wording of the agreement. But I am still grieving."

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"Okay," says Amriac, draping herself over Michael.

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He sighs and then kisses her hair.

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He looks away.

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"Right, that's a thing, isn't it," he says. And kisses her hair again, not that his alt will appreciate it. 

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Giggle.

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"I'll go upstairs," he says, and rather sweeps off; Michael takes notes on the posture.

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Eventually, Cam wakes up. This is signified with a sigh and his wing sliding where it's draped over Timothy.

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Snuggle. "Wrote everyone with Dementor safety rules. I don't think they'll help you - most people don't have as bad stuff - and I don't think it could possibly happen again but at least it'll get dealt with faster if it does."

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"That's good." Sigh again. Stretch, rearrange, recuddle. "Do you still feel the need to have a moral crisis, I could probably produce intelligent counterpoints now."

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"Your answer last night mostly satisfied me that you'd feel comfortable saying if I'd wronged you, which was more my worry than the series of events per se..."

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"You were under two different mind-altering spells and being manipulated by my alt. Without those conditions you literally couldn't cast the spell, I think I'm safe."

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"Not exactly what I mean but yes, that is true."

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"What do you mean?"

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"- if a version of the Imperius that didn't require malicious intent towards the victim existed I would learn it, and I would take it just as seriously as I take the evil version, and I'd happily give up the ability to do it to you specifically if magic let you do that kind of thing but it's not, really, that I was worried you'd be worried I'd mind-control you casually? It's that I was worried that if you did feel like I should have done something differently - kept you stunned for a day while we tried to think of a gentler solution, or something, it'd come to mind and then you wouldn't say it because you would be reluctant to say that I ought to behave more ethically towards you, or that you were wronged..."

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"That would only remotely resemble the nature of the thing I have if you were mind-controlling me specifically to prevent me from doing things. That being unrelated to your motive I would be definitely entitled to complain."

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"Good." Kiss. "I don't expect it to ever come up again - I really really will not let it ever come up again - but - impaired snuggles okay, impaired kissing no? -"

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"I wouldn't have particularly objected to impaired kissing but the conflicting instructions were actually really confusing."

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"Sorry about that, I hadn't realized that being subconsciously conflicted would even do that - I really didn't want to, to - I'd agreed in advance and still felt vaguely bothered about it afterwards -"

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"Should I have gotten you an advanced sex ed book."

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"Does it have things about advance directives for mind-altering magic?"

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"Not for mind-altering magic, but, like, people like Ister exist and it is considered irresponsible or at least high-trust risky stuff to get too deep into that genre without there being an out, and 'maybe you will learn to throw off this curse in a timely manner' would not meet anyone's standards for that."

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"I didn't think it was okay, that's why I didn't want to kiss you -"

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"...my point is that advance agreement or no you are entitled to anything from vague botherment to full-fledged post-traumatic stress disorder, not that it's a good idea to cultivate that if you don't actually have it but it wouldn't be weird or anything."

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" - when I'm around Dementors I hear an argument my parents had over me when I was four. It's really just vague botherment, and I'd do it again, I just - I apologize for sending you conflicting signals, I didn't realize I was doing it or that it'd be unpleasant."

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Snuggle. "It's not a big deal."

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Snuggle. "Exams went well, for whatever that's worth."

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"All the kittens survived?"

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"My kitten survived. They might kill the cats afterwards, I'm really not sure, 1802 has more cats than we know what to do with."

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"It becomes customary to sterilize one's pets eventually."

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"That'd solve it. Can we perchance have some breakfast?"

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"Course, what do you want?"

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"Something exotic and surprising, I don't know."

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"...hang on, let me look up some dates in food innovation."

Some date-looking-up later there are chocolate chip pancakes and kiwis.

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Chocolate is so delightful!!! Pancakes are so weird! Kiwis are - he considers them carefully and then makes one sprout a head and wings and a fluffy tail and take bumbling flight around the room - "they look like small furry animals, see -"

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"Actually they share a name with a flightless bird, not a furry critter." He produces a picture rather than an actual kiwi bird.

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"Awww." He can make his kiwifruit look more like a kiwi bird. He leaves it flying around, then lets it split neatly open and skin itself. Munch. "Oooh, they're tart."

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"Yes they are." Munch.

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And after a while they can head downstairs. 

 

 

"Oh, hello, you came inside."

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They are planning the excursion to Ireland! He has been animating little model dragons for her.

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They're so cuuuuute!

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"It took Amriac a while to notice that Elf me was not just oblivious but actually disinterested," he says. Look, this one breathes fire. "Am I kind of annoying?"

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"I haven't found you annoying since you were five but I'm probably biased."

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"Well I should be biased on the topic of my alt but he's kind of annoying."

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"Ah, that. I think it's the Elfiness. I have occasionally been annoyed with mine as well - he is not being at all nice to Fredrick -"

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"I would've angled for a threesome," Amriac protests.

"What's he doing to Fredrick?" asks Cam.

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"- he's just automatically settled into treating him as a trusted confidante who will naturally have lots to say on this two-hundred-page package of humanitarian interventions and Fredrick clearly has such a crush on him and he was definitely serious about the century of moping and should be endeavoring harder to be less crushable."

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"...yeah kind of a dick move."

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"Yup."

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"Is, like, everyone secretly gay, is that why I have dated all the girls in Hogwarts."

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"Don't you bring it up with him."

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"If everyone were secretly gay presumably this would include the girls of Hogwarts?"

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"Girls come in gay? What do they even do -"

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"...this level of ignorance had not previously occurred to me," says Cam.

"He's not bad in bed for someone who'd ask that," says Amriac.

"Didn't ask."

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"Let's just go back upstairs."

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Stairs. Ascension.

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"I will probably say something to my alt but I'm not sure what."

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"Can't really help you there, I don't think."

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"I am not clear on whether a fuller account of 'they were sniping at each other' would help me but I suppose I can also ask my alt for that - it's also plausibly partially a cultural difference but he's a me, he should have noticed the cultural difference -"

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"I didn't anticipate a need for detailed notes on the sniping, unfortunately, so I don't have anything more comprehensive than 'god that's annoying'."

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"I'm not sure if I'd be less or more vaguely annoyed if I thought my alt was going to go for it."

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"More annoyed less vague?" suggests Cam.

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"Sounds about right. It's not that consulting Fredrick on humanitarian projects is wrong it's just that I can't shake the feeling he ought to be able to do it more optimally, whereas if I didn't think he meant it on the moping I could have real complaints."

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"Anyway."

 

They were working on quite a few projects. They get to work on them.

 

One of those projects is getting every Dementor left in the world. "Can you conjure for them?"

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"...might be able to get the cloaks or something even if the Dementors are too magic..." He tries. He gets a bunch of little dioramas of Hogwarts before he stops short of making more surroundings-of-Dementors. They're missing chunks, some of them, presumably too magic.

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" - so we can get some fairies and go fetch them all, then."

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"I bet Miranda would be happy to kill them too but yes, the fairy method works."

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"Trust me, I'd love to have Miranda murder them all but that is probably wrong when we have a nonlethal solution."

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"Yeah. It's possible they'd rather die than starve indefinitely in space but I'm not going to ask them."

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"I could look into how the Ministry negotiates with them and figure out a way to ask, but we'll default to not-murder. Are there any other demons interested in being mind-controlled, I don't want to bore Ister - do you mind if I keep doing that -"

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"You'd have takers. I don't know, are you kinking on it as much as he is?"

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"Not that much but not, like, zero."

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"So maybe don't summon him up recreationally or make a point of giving all his friends a turn but it's fine for boxing invisible monsters."

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"Okay." Interested demons off the mail server?

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Several. Ister positively reviewed the experience in uncomfortable detail.

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Well, it's going to be a couple day's work conjuring for and fetching and boxing all of the Dementors in the world. He gives Cam a name - "can I have a circle? And one for a fairy, too -"

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"Random fairy or do you want to try Treeleess again?"

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"I'll ask her first, she was great."

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Circles!

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Miscellaneous demon interested in being mind-controlled? - he should have mentioned to Cam that if it was a girl he probably wouldn't find it interesting in the slightest.

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Either Cam guessed or he randomly selected a girl. She's got a long saw-edged tail and curly horns. "Hi," she says shyly.

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"Hi! I can do the mind-control magic Ister's been telling people about, I have a project that'll take a few days, you probably won't be able to stop me once we start but if you want check-ins every eight hours or so I can probably do that, are you interested?"

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"- check-ins would be good. Um, yes."

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"Okay. Imperio."

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And she dazedly smiles.

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And is Treeleess free?

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Doesn't answer her summons.

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Ah well. Random fairy?

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Here's one!

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"Hi! I'm Timothy. I'm taking these horrible nightmare monsters and putting them somewhere far away in space, we already successfully pulled this off in one country but there are more of them. Are you interested?"

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"...nightmare monsters?"

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"You can't see them, they're magic, we put them in boxes and then you just move the boxes. But they feed on positive emotions and make everyone in their immediate vicinity miserable."

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"Th...that sounds bad... uh, are they going to give me nightmares or do they not work on daeva -?"

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"They can work on daeva but have to be within a hundred meters, we are just planning to take lots of precautions so you're never within a thousand and if you somehow are you are welcome to just leave."

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The fairy reads the fine print on his circle to check that he will in fact be allowed to just leave.

"...Okay."

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"Thank you. We have a demon for the boxing part, payment is whatever you'd like her to make you."

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"Oh, that's good. I accept."

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"Thank you." Through Milliways, through the door, Theodore is holding it for them and Elf-supervised - he'd like Yasenry to make the surroundings of the nearest Dementor -

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Yasenry does that. It's on the grounds.

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He will give the fairy directions on how to take them to fairly-far-above-there-but-within-sight-of-it!

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And the fairy does so.

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Box.

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Box.

"So you just want this - in space, nowhere in particular? What if it lands?"

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"Ideally far enough out it won't land here or anywhere, if I'd planned this from the start I might have arranged to have them all somewhere near Jupiter so we can find them if we ever figure out a solution to their depression-monster problem but as it is, just - far."

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"I've never worked in deep space before, I'm not sure I can find you again if I get it out past lunar orbit."

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"- okay, how about we grab a hundred and then we can all go out into space together and in the meantime I will ask someone for instructions on things demons can make for navigation."

 

And he'd like Yasenry to write Cam requesting the aforementioned, and he would like all of these Dementors boxed.

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Yasenry writes, and boxes Dementors, and the fairy brings all the boxes along with them.

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And once they've got the ones on the Hogwarts grounds it's going to get more complicated.

 

....he doesn't recognize that location-  doesn't recognize it at the scale of a mile, either - the hundred miles around are Ireland somewhere - he shows the fairy a map -

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To Ireland they go.

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And narrow it down, and find it. And the next one. It's - well, it would be kind of tedious except flying is pretty amazing.

 

Has Cam written back with navigation instructions?

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He has recommended a little starmap widget specifically designed to help fairies navigate the solar system.

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Cool! Eight hours are up before they've tracked down a hundred Dementors; he has the starmap widget made and the instructions for it and hands them to the fairy. "This work?"

And Yasenry can be un-Imperiused. It'll be harder to do it again when he's being all consent-respecting like that but he thinks he can get into the right mental state for it.

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The fairy fiddles with the widget and says it seems straightforward enough.

Yasenry looks dizzy.

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"You okay?"

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"I, I'm not sure I like it as much as I thought I would."

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"That's fine. Want to go home?"

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Nod.

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"Can you make a letter to Cam, asking for another name, and then wait for his answer?"

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"Okay."

 

She gets another name presently and hands it to Timothy.

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"Thanks. Have a good day." And home.

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She vanishes.

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He has notes with all the 2179 legalese, now. He summons a new demon.

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The new demon is also excited to try the curse.

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Great! Break in eight hours?

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Sounds good!

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And once they've got a hundred boxes they can take them way way out in space.

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The fairy and the widget and the boxes go zoom.

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And hopefully the widget helps the fairy come back?

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Eventually, yes! "I stuck 'em in the asteroid belt. I like this thing, can I keep it?"

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"For sure!!! I think there should only be two or three more batches. Thanks so much for the help."

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"You're welcome."

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And they track down Dementors. It would be boring even with the flying, except one of them hurt Cam.

 

How's this demon feeling at the eight-hour break?

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This one still likes it!

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Oh good!

 

More Dementors.

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There are lots. The fairy puts them all far away.

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Romania has the good sense to keep their Dementors - and it looks like most of their neighbors' Dementors, there're only three wild ones in a 500-kilometer radius who are not in a guarded pit! He almost regrets that it's not really feasible to tell them what he's doing. Dementor-hunting is too hard to do in the dark, and following the sun around the globe (Timothy is having so much fun!) only gets you so far; they take a break in a pretty mountain range in the Americas.

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Sleeping breaks his mediocre Imperius.

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Inconvenient but not exactly surprising; is the demon annoyed about it?

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Not especially.

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Then they can keep going when he wakes up!

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Dementors get spaced! They move too fast to be easily caught even with the nap!

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And when every last one is gone he returns to Hogwarts, which is buzzing with distressed Ministry Dementor handlers. "I think it'll be easiest to avoid them by dropping in from above, really fast, and landing in that courtyard, is that doable?"

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"Sure," says his fairy.

They descend straight down really fast and land softly in the grass.

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Fairies are so great. "Okay, what would you like in addition to the navigator?"

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The fairy wants nice chocolate - lots - and some articles of furniture and a set of nice dishware.

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This is easily done! "Thanks so much! Should I grab you if I have work like this again?"

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"Not for like the next few weeks, I have a thing, but if you want me after sure, I'm Tleren."

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"Thanks. I noticed daeva don't normally introduce themselves -"

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"Summoners don't usually... care? Unless they want a recurring arrangement."

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"I would find that kind of annoying, in your place -"

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"It only bothers me if there are a bunch of fairies around and they call us all 'fairy'."

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"You'd think that'd create some potential for problems even if they only care about the task. Anyway, thank you very much. Take care. - I get my mail conjured, Timothy Way, if you ever happen to be really looking for something in particular and want a job."

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"Oh, good to know."

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Fairy can go home! Demon can be unImperiused and thanked and can go home!

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"Bye," says the demon. And gone.

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And he will also go home. 

 

And flop exhaustedly into bed. "All of them are gone," he tells Cam before he does.

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"Thank you."

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"Of course."

And asleep.

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Sleepy snuggles.

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And a more complete account of things, when he wakes up - "summoners in Revelation sound like they're kind of jerks -"

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"Kind of. There was this guy who popularized the 'don't let demons talk' thing, and then there was the furniture angel, fairies don't have any really high-profile disasters but it kind of leaks..."

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"Not letting demons talk seems like it's just making it harder to find ones willing to help you out."

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"Sometimes people will summon a bunch of demons and talk to them sort of like you were doing with the angels, and then publish a list of demons who do not obviously want souls and have tractable wishlists."

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"Is fetish work a tractable wishlist item or no - also I don't get anything out of it if they're girls, I can stick to those if you'd prefer."

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"It doesn't come up typically, because for most fetishes that wouldn't get you blacklisted from one of those compilations anyway it's easy to source in Hell or hard to find on Earth; the magic stuff is special. A lot of them have gender-ambiguous or -misleading names and don't disclose on their kink mailing list."

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Nod. Snuggle. "It'd be really convenient to have an avenue to open up trade or something with Revelation but I can't think how - if we trusted someone enough we could see if daeva summoned directly into Milliways can open doors to Hell and Heaven and Fairyland, let a couple people go in between, but that's a lot of risk for not much benefit and there's nothing similar that'd get us a door to Revelation -"

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"...come to think of it I'm not sure why I get doors to Arda and not Hell or Revelation."

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"Oooh, let's ask Bar."

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Bar, when questioned, suggests that Cam might be able to get doors to Hell or Revelation if he tried really hard.

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" - huh.  - want to try it?"

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"...where would the doors be?"

I cannot predict exactly, but a nonrandom location appropriate to you in some way.

...Cam goes over to the door, and stares at it, and pulls it open to reveal his house in Hell.

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"Oooh, what a nice place. At some point it'd be convenient for you not to have a summoner, maybe we can figure out how to use this then."

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"Yeah, might be handy. I... do not know where it'd put me in Revelation."

He shuts the door and reopens and tries it.

Then he closes the door again. "I think that was Charlie's house, which has been occupied by various random people since he died decades ago."

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" - so, sort of an inconvenient location from which to start relations with Revelation?"

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"Quite."

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"I'll ask the Elves if they have anything terribly valuable to do that they could accomplish if made invisible and snuck into 2179. Oh, and I was going to scold my alt, I can get both those done at once. Want to come?"

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"Scold him about what, Fredrick? Is that my business?"

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"It's not really mine, either, but I'm going to interfere anyway. 2179's your business, you know if Elf contact would actually be helpful to 'em -"

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"I'm sure they could find things to trade, if not super urgently."

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When asked he thinks it would be valuable - "ideally with a door to Endorë more than here, but I'll ask my mother if it'd go over all right to have it here, too - and if it turns out summoners don't daevafy except from Revelation then maybe some of the humans and Dwarves'll want to move there, we could shape them up a planet far away from the Earth if it'd be a bad idea to try to integrate them..."

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"Have no human or Dwarf summoners from Endorë died yet? Anyway the culture shock would be... major, and setting up a planet a ways off is not a huge cost..."

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"We haven't been teaching many people summoning for lack of knowledge of how to do it safely and concerns that not everyone was agreed on the wars being over and vengeance being uncalled for. We were going to ask you once you got back."

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"...I probably should have given you a textbook or something before I left."

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"I should have asked. Don't worry about it."

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Sigh.

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"Elf summoners don't Limbofy, that one we did get a check on. But we don't know if that's because we have the backups and don't count as properly dead or because our world doesn't work like that. That'd determine how urgent it is to funnel people to Revelation but it's probably a good idea either way, I'll look into it."

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Nod.

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" - I also wanted to mention that I don't think you're being very fair to Fredrick."

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"Oh?"

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"If it were anyone else I'd think it were by accident but you're me."

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" - you can ask him if you'd like. I do not think he prefers that I spend less time with him or trust him with less, and unless there are random things I can do that humans find unattractive all of the avenues of getting him to like me less would involve those."

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"I think he doesn't believe you about the century of moping thing."

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"He doesn't but not for a lack of explanations on my part."

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"Just - don't mess around, okay?"

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"Of course not."

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"Has he wondered why his alt's not here?"

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"I told him everything."

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"Okay."

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"He's -"

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"Glad the war is over and it worked."

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"And more malleable than yours."

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"Yes, which isn't my fault."

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"Okay. Fair enough."

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A bit later Miranda asks if there is any reason not to fetch Karen before the school year ends.

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"I can't think of one - she's not going to take any of the news too badly -"

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"Course not, it's Karen."

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"People can be very levelheaded and still freaked out by some of this. But I'm fine with it."

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So Miranda goes and gets Karen.

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Who is very impressed by everything.

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There is, by now, a lot to be impressed by. They have drawn up country-specific plans for subtle magic aid until the Statute can be repealed, and less-subtle tech rollouts, and daeva plans if it turns out that's the pathway to an afterlife. There are annotated histories of how the Muggle slave trade was ended and some things that went wrong with industrialization and how all of the above can be avoided and a Mars-with-daeva plan and a Mars-sans-daeva-probably-run-by-Miranda plan and a few proposals for Elves making contact and pretending to come from elsewhere in the same dimension are being batted around; they have the advantage of setting a better posture for interactions with governments but, Maitimo writes in the notes, 'not sure how much we even gain from interacting with these human governments they are terrible'.

There are analyses of the Revelation rollout of summoning and its implications in the poorest countries in the world with the lowest literacy rates.

There are demon immunologists helping with a vaccination schedule for 1802 humans.

The Fëanáros think they can figure out portals but it might be a few decades. 

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It is all kind of overwhelming and Karen appreciates being informed as a sort of courtesy but does not know how to be useful.

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"There's a big file of how-does-magic-interact-with-this-or-that-other-thing tests that you could probably make a dent in if you're interested. You can also tell the Elves to make their briefings shorter because not all of us have a thousand years to waste and then they'll do nice little one-page factsheets."

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"...if they'll do that why aren't they already?"

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"I mean, there is some content lost in the shortening? I think if you are an Elf and can literally do fifteen things at once and have an enhanced memory and so on then the briefings are probably well optimised. But here we are not being Elves. - which has some advantages, I compared human to Elf technological progress and the only reason Elves are only twice as slow at everything is because they have a my father."

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"Heh. I'll do magic interaction experiments if there's somewhere I can do the spells, it sounds fun."

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"Thanks!!"

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So she goes and casts various things on a piece of paper to see which spells make it unconjurable and so on down the list.

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And he lobbies the Hogwarts administration for permission to stay over the summer for that important research project he got a corridor blocked off for, no, he's not explaining, yes, he's aware that these are dangerous and confusing times -

 

- this is a stretch but he's been hoarding favors for years for it -

 

- and also half the people involved are afraid of him -

 

- "think it'll go through," he says exhaustedly to Cam, coming home at the end of a day of hearings, "and also I should be careful no one decides to murder me that'd be sad."

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"...yes, please don't get murdered. Should you acquire a daeva bodyguard or something?"

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" - crossed my mind but we don't know that daeva're invulnerable to the Killing Curse either and you are stunnable, I'm not sure it'd do more than a regular bodyguard. I could ask Maitimo if he minds looking like me and then coach him on how to do the bits where I'm nervous about the position I'm putting myself in. But he might mind looking like me. Elves."

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"Elves! If we had someone who knew the Killing Curse I'm sure we could get a Poppy Garden patient, and we don't stay stunned long, and a daeva'd be useful in any more obvious assault. But."

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"I know who to ask but I'm just not sure I could cast it even if I knew it."

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"Would it have to be you? Is there some reason it couldn't be whatever person you'd ask?"

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"- he's not someone I would be thrilled to have knowing daeva exist?"

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"I would bet there is somebody in the Poppy Gardens desperate enough to chop their wings off and promise to play dead even if it doesn't work, but I suppose they might dramatically vanish or something..."

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"And 'would you kill this random person for me' is - I would need a very convincing explanation and insisting on the method would make it weirder."

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"True."

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"Could just make him forget it afterwards."

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"Didn't think you'd approve."

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"Not so much."

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"Regrettably I have no acquaintances who can be trusted and will also murder a stranger for no reason."

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"And 'they want to die' doesn't work because the spell is evil. Right."

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"Yup. 'They're trying to kill me' would work but it's again rather few people who'd go straight to an Unforgivable - even with Azkaban now out of the picture - and even if you do go to an Unforgivable you might not kill them, you might tell them to stop and tell you why they're doing it -"

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"Really inconvenient, evil spells."

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"How does a spell even do that - I haven't been looking into magic theory because it wouldn't do me any good but if there's a lay introduction to spells comma evilness of..."

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"Most spells are a combination of an intent and a focusing gesture and incantation. The focusing gestures and incantations are more developed than discovered but spell development's dangerous because minor variants of even very benign charms can do bizarre and occasionally fatal stuff. The intent for most spells can be partial - you can cast 'Lumos' knowing only 'it does something related to light' - but not incorrect - you can't cast Lumos believing it sends a blazing ball of light flying at your enemy. It's pretty rare for spells to require harmful intent - most lethal spells, for example, require that you intend to kill someone but not that you intend to in so doing commit a wrong against them - but that's just because spells that do simple things are much more common than spells that do complicated things, and spells that have simple attached intents are much more common than spells with complicated ones.

More powerful stuff usually has more complicated attached intent. Though, honestly, it could be that there're less powerful spells that have complicated attached intent and no one's stumbled on them, if there were a flower-growing spell that required you to passionately desire the death of your spouse it just never would have caught on. It's also harder - and more dangerous - to cast with partial information. Usually won't work at all, if it does work might have some kind of unexpected backlash... it is totally plausible you couldn't cast the Killing Curse on someone if you expected this would cause them to daevafy, and it might depend on whether you conceptualize that as death. You get better at spells with practice, and that's partially getting better at the focusing and it's also partially getting acclimated to the mental state for casting it from, so that it's easier to slip back into. The other two Unforgivables, inadequate intent just results in the spell failing, inadequate experience or power results in the spell not being very powerful - snaps without direct attention, in the case of the Imperius, and is easier to break, and requires more micromanagement while lending less fine control. I think the Cruciatus is just less painful if you're not very good at it. Avada Kadavra's all or nothing so I don't think there's a getting-better-at-it, just knowing how it's done and being in the right state of mind."

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"Huh."

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"If we can come up with a harmless explanation for indestructible people I could pull it off."

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"...testing some kind of protective spell, could explain a variety of results but doesn't solve the evil intent part."

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"No, that bit's straightforward - testing a protective spell, you can test it too if you like, need to know if it works against the Killing Curse but I've gotten attached to my pretty innocent Muggle test subject, will you do it for me -"

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"Aha."

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"But then why I am not indestructible becomes an interesting question."

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"Spell has side effects you don't want to put up with unless it passes all your tests?"

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"...sure, okay, I think I can sell that if we can find a volunteer who doesn't mind cutting off the wings and being Imperiused."

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"I'll write to the Poppy Garden staff."

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"Thanks."

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"...if daeva can be Killing Cursed is there a good way to cover more than the one test subject?"

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"I could probably figure out a way that doesn't require involvement of and significant concealment from actual murderers, not right away but I take it they're not really in a hurry..."

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"They are not."

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"Do they - usually have reasons for wanting to die that could be changed -"

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"I haven't made a particular study of it but maybe some of them."

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"Because we should probably see first if regular access to cheering charms and company does anything, I don't know what sorts of things make daeva want to die but wizards mostly want to die for transient reasons or illness ones -"

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"Charms maybe but I doubt access to company per se is it? Hell has people. I suppose some of them might just be socially impaired enough not to get value from that."

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"Well. We can try first, it's not like we're pressured for time."

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Nod. "I'll mention in the letter that there might be non-death means of helping the folks in the gardens presented by wizarding magic."

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"What've you been up to-"

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"Elf-chipping basement dwellers - they spontaneously die, can't get them to not do that - and taking brain scans of magic people, which if they can be trusted suggest that Michael is not going to have problems with his experimental brain surgery."

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"Oh, good. We have pretty much Muggle brains?"

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"Looks like, or you're persistently fooling a variety of scanners into thinking so."

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"I would not expect magic to do much fooling of Muggle scanners. Interfering with, maybe, but I assume that'd look different."

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"Some of them did actually glitch some but when they worked they were consistent."

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"It's going to be inconvenient if magic consistently glitches tech. Maybe my father'll find a solution."

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"My next experiment was going to be wrapping electronics in live plants, see if being contained in something organic is protective. Wouldn't help with the chips naively because all they do is talk to stuff that is not likewise inside the body, but if you could put a computer in wood..."

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"Ooooh, that'd be super convenient."

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"You would have to water your computer. But otherwise yes."

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"I would have to ask my elves to water my computer," he corrects him. "I am a wealthy slaveholding citizen of 1802."

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"You did explain the house elves but that is still weird to think about."

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"We should probably come to some kind of arrangement just to avoid charges of hypocrisy when we topple the human slave trade and to avoid everyone hating us when we open contact with more civilized societies, but it really would be cruel to let them go."

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"I don't immediately have a way to present the story that doesn't sound like potentially a self-serving lie."

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"And 'oh, no, our slaves are better off this way, trust us' is in fact a fairly popular such lie. Maybe I can sell the elves on some sort of annual reaffirmation of their commitment to a family, in which they are symbolically offered clothes and wages and reject them..."

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"Only looks convincing if sometimes one takes 'em and goes off to prove that the other option isn't coercive amounts of horrible."

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"I assume there exists at least one Elf somewhere who'd rather be free, but I cannot say I've met them."

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"How would you find 'em?"

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"Maybe find people who are colossally terrible to their elves? It'd be a minority even there but there's probably where you're likeliest to find some."

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"...if it's responsive to quality of life considerations like that, if that actually makes them want freedom and not, like, to be given to a nicer family, I wonder if it's not as permanently entrenched as it looks?"

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"I don't know if it'd produce wanting to be free instead of wanting to be given to a nicer family, I haven't met elves who've expressed any dissatisfaction with their current one, and there might be a range of responses anyway. But - yeah, it'd be valuable to try and find someone who is open to being freed, and see what the other elves think of that..."

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Nod.

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"Or maybe check what happens if we aggressively indoctrinate the kids, if that won't upset their parents too badly."

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"How are house elves normally brought up?"

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"- out of the way? It'd be embarrassing to them if we notice they've had children until the children are of an age to be working, and then they'll tell us 'dinner was cooked by Nipsy tonight! Nipsy is knowing enough to be a good elf now! If Mr. Timothy is wanting to meet Nipsy -' because they know it drives me nuts not meeting them sooner..."

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"...okay that's kinda creepy."

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"Yes. I can ask a couple of ours over if you think you might have an angle on it which we wouldn't have thought of..."

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"...the only thing I can actually think of is if they might be more candid with a fellow magical creature."

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"Worth a shot. - don't ask random elves a lot of questions, you'll panic them, but ours are used to my father and brothers so used to very extended mildly rude lines of questioning."

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"Okay; what else do I need to know to talk to a house-elf?"

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"They have really powerful magic - no wands, it's very very illegal for an elf to touch a wand, but they can Apparate into places normally protected against it and at longer ranges, and they can do do about as much as a wanded wizard though they mostly won't in front of us -"

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"...that's weird. They were somehow made and came out like that? To do household chores?"

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"If there was a more exciting conspiracy it was a very very long time ago and I doubt the participants were kind enough to put it to non-enchanted text, but you're welcome to try to figure something out."

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"Sometime when there are fewer immediately useful things to do I may attempt forensics on house elves."

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"Sure. Let me know when you want to talk to one, too."

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"Are there notes on the results of your family's extensive questioning I could read?"

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"I'll ask my father, I bet there are and that he wouldn't mind."

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"Cool."

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There are, and he doesn't mind. How does elf magic work? The elves are not sure, sir, they are just doing things that need to be done. Can an anti-Apparition ward be set against them - yep, looks like the standard ones aren't only for reasons of convenience. Do they have any stories about what they did before they served wizards - no, that is ridiculous, they have always served wizards. Are they willing to try using a wand? (They are not.) Do they get sick (yes, but they wouldn't want to stop working when sick and it'd be shameful for wizards to notice). Do they like some work more than others - no, whatever is most needed is the best! What if they had a bad master - this results in pages and pages of assurances that Finis is a good one, and pages and pages of increasingly frustrated rephrasings from Finis. They have the concept of a bad master, apparently, but it's a very taboo one and no one will admit to ever having heard of an actual existing bad master. They definitely don't want to be free, or be paid, or have days off, and get upset when these things are suggested.

 

How long do they live? Forty or fifty years; they'll usually stop eating when they can't work anymore. Finis spends apparently months trying tacks to talk them out of this; they eventually convince him that they will be miserable if ordered not to do that. How long do they take to grow up - a year or two. How do they decide when to have children? When there'll be enough work for them. The Way house-elves have had lots of children recently because all of the Way grandchildren will be starting their own families. Why don't they ask for time off for the children? Oh, house-elf babies aren't much trouble. Why don't they tell wizards about their babies? Well, it's really better for everyone - the babies might be told to do things and do them badly and not know to punish themselves appropriately, or the wizards might feel burdened by catering to the babies and that would be so horrible and shameful. 

 

Finis tries and fails to convince them that 'shame' is meaningless and does not carry ethical import; the exchange leaves everyone involved quite angry with each other.

 

They regard themselves as bound more to the interests of the household than to the orders being given, though it takes a white to tease that out; if Finis told them, say, to not get him a drink when he was already drinking, they would listen to that over later instructions to get a drink, and their explanations eventually resolve to 'he said both things and one of them is clearly better for him'. Their definition of 'better' seems to mean 'running an honorable and thriving wizarding family', and Finis can't tell if most other house-elves would share their values or if they absorb them from the household (so in this case, from his father).

 

 They refuse to participate in tests of their magic abilities and if ordered to beg to do something else instead; Finis didn't insist. he does observe that clearly they like some kinds of work more than others, and is told frustratedly that participating in his questioning sessions isn't work, work is nice things like cooking or cleaning or watching children or tending to animals that makes something better for their family.

Finis spends another couple months trying to convince them that experimentation makes things better for the family, to no avail. He runs a series of complicated payment schemes by them - are they okay with bonuses? Incentives? Presents? (Bonuses and incentives stress them out because they insist they are doing a good job all the time, is he dissatisfied?) They are divided on presents but eventually concede that if their work makes Finis so happy he wants to give them presents that'd be very nice. 

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"...they sound like one of the more frustrating possible designs for a slave race, actually..."

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" - how so?"

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"I suppose they might appeal to some people but the inability to answer questions - and these are the ones who are used to that! - and the narrow definition of 'work' and the general nontransparency."

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"Maybe it's a difference in sensibilities - the idea is that a useful servant is one who you don't even notice-"

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"But they're willing to supervise children! If I were responsible for children I would not hand them off to these creatures without really impoverished options!"

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"Elves're good company! They don't let you light yourself on fire, they'll play games with you..."

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"I would have found them very frustrating even as a six-year-old, I assure you."

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"Fair enough. And parenting might be another thing that changes over the centuries - Elves sure do it differently -"

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"Yeah, that's probably most of it."

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"I don't know if their sensibilities adapt with the expectations of their owners, though."

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"Not very much or any that had been around your father for his entire life would be better at answering questions - is there an observable generation gap in the family elves, how many do you guys have -"

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"They weren't around him his entire life, he ran away from home when he was eight and didn't reconcile with his father until after he'd graduated from Hogwarts - and we have five -"

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"I suppose running away would explain it. They've known you lot your entire lives, though, right?"

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"Yeah. It certainly hasn't produced a drastic shift in outlook."

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"How do they divvy up between households when kids grow up and move out?"

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"Typically one would come with me and one with my wife, and then they'd have kids if the household needed more than two. So there'll probably be a few children by the time James and Samuel are of age."

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"Do you get to pick? How does that work if the spouse doesn't have one or the genders don't work out?"

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"I'd take my favorite, yeah. I am not a hundred percent sure house-elves do genders. And I could take two, or we could borrow my grandparents', but mostly the wealthy families intermarry and it doesn't come up."

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"Is your favorite house elf going to judge you for not heading up an honorable and thriving branch of their family by taking up with an unsuitable person who does not even have a house elf."

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"If I planned on any present social institutions still being in one piece in ten years I'd have to worry about that, yes."

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"I was mostly being facetious but it is plausible that the house elves are harder than humans to shove into improved social attitudes, especially if they never see a non-house-elf until they're old enough to make cherries jubilee."

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"Yeah. And taking kids away from their parents to improve them seems a bit - horrible."

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"Oh, it is, it's been tried and it is very horrible."

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"So we may be stuck not just with a slave race but with one with 1802 sensibilities about what that means."

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"Well, if they've been around forever and currently suit 1802 wizards very well presumably they weren't very off for 1456 when it was 1456?"

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"Don't think so. So there's that."

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"But it's not clear exactly how they adapt to the times..."

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"Yeah. With a little bit of lag, at least." Sigh. "How much of a problem is it going to be for relations with other societies, if we get a reliable way of contacting them..."

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"...people in 2179 care about elephants and you might get conscientious objectors but human nature hasn't fundamentally changed and you can probably present a really compelling economic case for believing what you say about how house elves work."

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"Okay. The Elves think they should probably sneak into Revelation, lightleap into the star system somewhere, meet people and trade tech and so on. And see how that goes before 1802 contact with all its complications is attempted." 

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"Yeah, Arda/Revelation might not be a smaller values gap but it's one where the fussier society has more warning..."

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"I told Maitimo I thought it was adorable that they let the furniture angel be visited in prison by people who think serial killers are great and he looked so appalled at me. Anyway, yes, more warning and no mind control anywhere to be seen."

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"Oh, the Elves do have mind control, it just only works on oneself and only if one is an Elf. Or an orc or a Maia or a Vala I guess."

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" - I missed that -"

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"Oaths work on mental states."

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"Yikes."

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"And even the ones that aren't directly about them get all compulsive if you try to change your mind."

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"I am glad they existed so there was a way to end the war but that's kind of horrifying. - you can use magic to make an Unbreakable Vow but if you break it you just die."

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"That's not particularly unbreakable. Especially if there's not even a warning condition for being about to break it."

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"I think there is. Not sure, it doesn't get much use. Not a dark spell exactly but definitely a typically ill-advised one."

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"Rather, yes."

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"I'll tell them they can draw up their eighty page meet-2179 briefing documents."

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"Sounds fun."

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"I am envious of their resources. Wouldn't trade them for anything, though."

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Nod.

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Hug. "Let me know about the Poppy Gardens inquiries."

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"Will do."

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The Elves make plans to contact Revelation!

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"I don't know a good way to convince random people in Charlie's old house to let it be an interdimensional communication hub, do you?"

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"Money?"

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"They do have demonproof currency arrangements in Revelation."

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"I wasn't planning to counterfeit it. We have lightleapers and it looks like mostly better consumer tech than them - and a couple thousand catalogues of music and literature from different universes, though I wasn't planning to offer those to the humans..."

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"So you want them to extend credit. To home invaders."

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"I want to establish ourselves and then buy the house."

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"I will have to continuously hold the door for time in which to establish yourselves to pass. In their house. This would be a problem even if I ditched the wings and tail."

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"Are you sure of that? Time hasn't been paused in Revelation since you walked in here."

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"...okay, I don't actually know for sure, my door situation is weird."

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"I am hoping for an arrangement by which you do not need to hold the door, and we write you when we want it open again. Maybe we can ask Bar what that requires - maybe after opening it to Revelation opening it to Hell or Arda?"

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"Bar might not know, lacking the ability to personally run door experiments."

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"Well, it seems like a cheap test - the worst case scenario is that we're stranded in Revelation and that's not actually very inconvenient, we could still correspond."

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"Yes, I suppose, you're even forkable-home if you want."

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"Yep. Or if you need us for anything, but I think the rest is pending on whether people can daevafy anywhere outside Revelation."

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"If only somebody would die."

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"It's terrible."

And when they are ready (two Elves and forty chips in their pockets, all invisible) they wait for Cam to sneak them into formerly-his-dad's-house. 

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Cam holds the door and watches them hop out the window. They are not caught by whatever resident is singing in the shower.

While he is checking his mail periodically in case they have anything to report, he remarks to Timothy, "You should probably actually tell Miranda you know about her parents."

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"I - did? I said that we were going to continue being careful around things like peoples' families and peoples' orientations, despite how rapidly I expect them to become irrelevant."

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"Which... solidified her position that you probably suspect but does not tell her how much detail you have or if you've guessed the right thing or even actually guarantee that you know anything as opposed to being generally magnanimous."

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"- okay - and those are relevantly different? I mean, if I've communicated that I'm not going to hurt her, what additional benefit is there -"

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"While she is using her conservative do-not-tell-anybody-even-if-it-would-certainly-be-fine-because-that-only-gets-to-leak-to-the-wrong-person-once strategy she cannot drop the pretense around you without knowing that you in fact know."

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"Okay. If it's meaningful to her I'll tell her."

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"Or I can but I wasn't sure I wanted to explain why I know you know."

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" - yeah, fair. If you didn't throw it off for some reason I was going to put up a privacy spell such that he didn't actually hear you. And be very worried but that's a different story."

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"It was a perfectly good prompt to throw off the spell and I figured you had something in mind but I don't super want to tell Miranda all about it if she isn't actually curious, which she does not seem to be."

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"I will find a separate excuse to tell her. Have we heard back from the Poppy people?"

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"I got a form letter, but it said they would interview some people who had given applicable advance consent and get back to me, so."

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"Thanks."

And a little while later, "Miranda?"

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"Yeah?"

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Conversational privacy - "Cam said that I should tell you explicitly that I picked up that your father's a Muggle and your mother Muggleborn because the rules you are operating under don't treat 'wouldn't care and probably knows' the same as 'definitely knows' and wouldn't allow telling me?"

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"...okay, thanks. How did you figure it out, when was it -"

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"First time you got into a fight with one of the girls in your year - well, didn't have the details at that point, but you don't talk about your father and your mother didn't have elves or family friends with elves or family friends informally setting up a match for you -"

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"Most people buy 'Nnenne is eccentric and immigrated from Igboland as a child' as an explanation for that part. She is and she did."

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"Sure, but there are more Muggleborns than people with no extended family for other reasons. I don't think you're at risk of exposure in general."

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"Okay. Thank you."

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"Sure! Take care."

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"- as long as you already know do you have a read on who would care and how much -"

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"The world's going to be changing a lot, really fast - and I overestimated how much people'd care if I were involved with Cam. At least within here I think you're fine."

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"Okay, thanks."

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"Of course."

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(Based on the message from the Elves, time is in fact passing in Revelation while the door is closed - but about a thousand times slower than in Milliways. The initial note saying that everything worked fine was composed a minute after the door closed, and arrives the next day.)

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"Huh. I guess that's more convenient than if they were going a lot faster than us - and, come to think of it, if Arda's stopped, the daeva worlds have to be slow not to have noticed anything wrong..."

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"Maybe that's why my correspondence is taking so long - and that fairy didn't want a resummon so soon?"

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"Yeah, she said she had something the next couple weeks - it'd been more than that on our end, but probably not on hers - the time stuff is weird. I approve, though. It is nice to be able to guiltlessly take an afternoon off occasionally."

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"It is!"

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"Speaking of which I think I have learned about as much from your books as can be learned from books."

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"And now you want volumes two through seven?"

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"I am surprised 2179 does not consider it uncivilized not to provide all of their citizens with basement-dwellers for practice. And demonic elephants for the elephants."

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"Basement dwellers seem like they would not be worth the time, honestly, I don't get the appeal."

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"- that's really a - of course that's really a thing. Everything is a thing. I suppose demons are frequently told they have too much free time and being from 1802 will not enhance my credibility."

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"Of course it's a thing! That's why you keep them in the basement! There's no other good reason to have them in your house at all, if you're a med student you keep them in a lab; if you have them in your house you keep them in the basement out of the way of the house guests."

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"- you are checking occasionally that no one's replicated the chips trick in Hell -"

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"Yes."

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"Anyway, yes, hit me up with volumes two through seven."

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"There are no volumes two through seven, you have been cruelly deceived."

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"That can't be! Me? Deceived? 2179, said its piece in a single book? Neither of these things have ever happened before."

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"It was published in 2154 and if you want supplemental material I can certainly find it but it doesn't have any sequels per se."

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"I don't actually want supplemental material, I want you."

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"That is a completely different matter then. Quite unconjurable." Kiss.

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Kiss. "If there've been books written about you I expect I would find them all terribly disappointing."

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"There's probably some speculating about the identity of Revelation?" Wings go around boyfriend.

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"That's why it'd be disappointing - I know you better, I know your reasons better, I also know better than anyone except I suppose some people in Limbo what things were like before and can appreciate it properly..."

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Kiss.

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Kiss. "We're going to do that for so many worlds."

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"We have weird pillow talk," observes Cam, and then he kisses Timothy harder.

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Mmmmmmmmm.

 "- was going to say 'well there's only so much I can say about how attractive you are' but that's probably not true, could probably go on for a while there, too..."

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"One day you will run out of compliments and then where will we be."

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"You would have to do another splendid thing. I know you were planning on retirement."

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Cam giggles. "I was but then you talked me into accepting a Mars."

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"I would've been doing everyone who might live there a disservice if I let you slip away."

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What a kissable assertion. Kiss. "So I'm flexible, do you know what you wanna do?"

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"I would like you to get undressed and get in bed and make that smug expression and then we can figure things out from there."

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He's already not wearing a shirt, which makes this pretty quick. "This smug expression?"

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"That is precisely the smug expression." Kiss. 

 

 

 

And they figure things out from there.