Nov 21, 2017 3:01 AM
Hello and pronouns
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Hello, Telamon! Do you mean that metaphorically? Who or what do you defend?

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@Chayis, I...am the defence system? I defend... Error: data lost. I cannot recall what I defend.

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@Amatsira The word isn't producing very positive associations for me – do they punish transgressions? What sort of ability do they have to detect that? (I'm hoping this won't be harmful in any way for you to receive, and apologize – unhelpfully – if it is.)

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I know of no god that does not punish breaches of their commandments. That said, gods vary just as mortals do; the relevant question is the contents of the commandments. As for myself, I am principally concerned with enforcing parley and hospitality, and preventing piracy. For the most part, mortal government plays a greater role in day-to-day affairs than divine edict.

All gods have the ability to sense what happens within our domains, in much the same way as mortals sense their bodies, though our attention is not unbounded.

I am not harmed by your questions, and cannot think of a way in which I could be. I see no reason to worry.

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What are your domains, more precisely? Do they correspond to physical locations or are they general themes or category of things? What sorts of actual abilities do you have over them, such that you'd call them your domain? (The ability to sense what happens in it, but I'm not clear how broad or narrow that is?)

Edit: you'd think with all my mysterious ability (of which I have told you approximately none) I would be better at noticing and fixing typos, wouldn't you

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Domains are geographic locations. In addition to our senses, which are broadly comparable to what I understand of mortal senses, we can speak from any part of our domains, grant blessings to anyone in contact with our domains (including small removed parts, such as a bottle of river water), and reshape the geography within the limits of our type. (Each god has an associated type of geography; mine is river. When we expand our domains, the annexed territory changes to match our type.)

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Amatsira, does that mean your people live on boats? Or does river stretch to include riverbanks?

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Most of the people in my domain aren't permanent residents, but yes, they're mostly on boats. I can do riverbanks and small islands; whether I claim the banks in practice varies according to my treaties with the local gods whose domains I border.

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Telamon, I am sorry that you don't remember. Is there context you might use to figure it out? What do you do now? Can you tell where you are? Can you tell what sort of defense you once provided? For example, did you create physical barriers, or locks and traps, or magical wards? What kinds of things can you do?

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...ooh. Maybe I should start making people capitalize my pronouns.

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Are you a goddess?

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No but I'm at least as cool as one.

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Honestly the whole "make people capitalize your pronouns" seems like a douchey god thing, not a cool god thing.

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If it's okay to say that people have to call you he or she or they or whatever why isn't it okay to say that they have to call you She?

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In context, yeah, you get people to call you he or she or they because that's what you are, but if you ask people to call you a She because you're a god or whatever it's not a value-neutral fact differentiation it's "I'm better than you and you have to pay careful attention to this fact whenever you talk about me."

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@Chayis, context hard to ascertain. Sensors diffuse. Location: Error. System physical. React to feedback from diffuse sensors. Arsenal: classified.

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I think the difference is that in one context you're asking people to use one of a standard set of pronouns (he, she) which is minimally problematic, in another you're asking them to use a standard pronoun a lot of people don't accept as singular (they), in another you're asking them to use a non-standard set of pronouns (ey? I don't know many of these), and in another you're asking them to butcher the regular rules of orthography just because you wanted them to.

The above may not make sense if people are not familiar with / not reading this in English.

You could just ask people to use German when talking to you and insist on the 'polite' pronoun – that gets you a capital letter. Admittedly it's somewhat more of an inconvenience, but you'll probably bug language prescriptivists less.

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Posted by Araisha:

In context, yeah, you get people to call you he or she or they because that's what you are, but if you ask people to call you a She because you're a god or whatever it's not a value-neutral fact differentiation it's "I'm better than you and you have to pay careful attention to this fact whenever you talk about me."

Well what if better than them and they should pay attention is a fact about what I am.

Posted by Chronoteq:

I think the difference is that in one context you're asking people to use one of a standard set of pronouns (he, she) which is minimally problematic, in another you're asking them to use a standard pronoun a lot of people don't accept as singular (they), in another you're asking them to use a non-standard set of pronouns (ey? I don't know many of these), and in another you're asking them to butcher the regular rules of orthography just because you wanted them to.

Capitalizing She is way easier than using they or ey! And people should use they or ey if someone asks them to. So I don't see why it's a big problem. And it's butchering the rules of orthography just because someone wanted you to either way, and anyway if rules are dumb you should get rid of them.

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It sometimes happens that people are unable to come to an accord about how to interact appropriately with one another; in such cases, I usually recommend that they avoid interacting.

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Exactly why are you under the impression you get to tell me what to do??

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A recommendation is not a command.

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☆.。.:* ӺƌẛŧЂ .。.:*☆ said:

Capitalizing She is way easier than using they or ey! And people should use they or ey if someone asks them to. So I don't see why it's a big problem. And it's butchering the rules of orthography just because someone wanted you to either way, and anyway if rules are dumb you should get rid of them.

It probably is easier, at least than 'ey'! (I find 'they' to be reasonably automatic.) I also agree that people should generally use they or ey if someone asks them to. I wouldn't call it butchering the rules of orthography to use a standard pronoun in a non-standard context – that was specifically me talking about using capital letters on words that aren't standardly capitalized. I don't think it's dumb that most people don't get capital pronouns, and I think it's probably a bad idea, or at least a weird idea, to prioritize certain people over others with these, as that's not what I use pronouns for – they should indicate who I'm talking about, not the level of respect I care to give them or how afraid of them I am. (If people wish to make requests for me to use non-standard pronouns to talk about them, I'm okay with that, but it at least seems weird to request / care about the capitalization of them.)

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People use pronouns to indicate if the person they're talking about is a guy or a girl or not, and if there's one of them or more than one, I don't see why they shouldn't use them to indicate how important they are! Plus like they are already doing that, as long as there are people doing the capitalization thing, they're just indicating that I'm not one of the important people!!

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Most people don't use capitalization like that for anyone. Japanese however frequently uses honorifics when referring to individuals, that may be a better fit for the kind of deference you are hoping to solicit. 

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