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Uploads like myself don't really breathe or eat. We can pretend for the sake of the sensations but it isn't required for survival. I guess what you're calling possession sounds like the effects of certain drugs on normal humans. Those drugs work more than once though.

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Oh, that sounds very useful! ... Do you not have light at all? Or are you just always illuminated?

We have drugs, from plants and fungi and some animal venoms, but they don't change the color of your light. For numbness and insightful feelings and visions and alertness, although we're too young to use most of them. Well, they affect your light if they're also really fresh food, but usually they're not, because it's better if anyone can use them and they can be stored well.

We actually have a friend whose area of interest is fungi, and she's hoping to eventually create useful medicines and drugs from their spores!

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Again we seem to be missing context. Baseline humans emit heat as any object does but we don't emit light in any more specific sense. Uploaded humans run on various hardware which also emits heat as per the rules followed by other objects in our universe.

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You aren't lit at all? Are you just awake all the time? Oh, I'm teal, and Fayet is yellow, if that wasn't obvious. I assumed people here were mostly trying to keep it anonymous, and wasn't really sure why. We are warm but I don't think that's the same thing, although alive things are more likely to be warm.

All living or recently-living things in my world are illuminated in their color. The large paths blood or sap travels through for most plants and animals, as well as most animals' eyes and the insides of most animals' mouths, and the mycelia and gills of most fungi, usually have a visible glow. Things need to consume food or other materials that have their kind of light to live. Do baseline humans need some kind of light, at least?

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Baseline humans aren't lit at all except in the sense I described. Humans sleep, though uploads like myself don't need as much sleep as baseline humans. Sleep in humans allows us to process the stress of the previous day more or less both physically and mentally. I don't know what the colors mean in context. To me, colors are just mixtures of light frequencies. I would say just light frequencies but I'm not one of the radicals who's rewritten their visual cortex that way.

Baseline humans use sight for visual processing and to help catalyze reactions in their skin which produce a family of chemicals referred to as Vitamin D which they need to live, they can get that through dietary sources or special supplementation though. I think it's possible for a baseline human to live without being exposed to light but it seems unlikely that the experiment would ever be conducted for ethics reasons.

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Being unlit is odd to imagine, but I am glad it works for you. So when humans are not awake, they're all just - empty? Not doing anything?

Rithel are each awake half the time, for one swap, but we only rest our bodies for a little bit of time. Someone's color is the color of the light that makes them alive. Yellow light all ultimately comes from the sun when it is yellow, and teal light comes from the sun when it is teal. The only real differences between the colors are the devices that can be made with the light, and when a person is awake. Yellow people also tend to be more outward-focused than teal people, but I am not sure if that is because of the light or something else.

I'm not sure what you mean by describing light as frequencies. Usually when I see light, it is constant, or lasts for a little bit and then stops.

We also use light to see, although we mostly use fire and plants that reach down from the surface, or glowing cave slime. We've read about people who live on the surface and spend a long time in bright light developing sore skin, so I suppose that this must just be a difference between our species. If a rithel cannot get light, either from the sun or from food, they die the next day. That is what happened in the case of the infant Chayis described. I agree that such an experiment would not be a good idea.

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Baseline humans don't share bodies. While they're asleep their body is usually relatively motionless though some people are prompted by dreams, reflexes or other unconscious causes to move while sleeping.

I've never known our sun to change colors, the fact that it does implies that it may not be very much like the stars in my world. It's possible that your physics are substantially different from ours, but in our world light and to some degree everything else can be described by wave equations. The frequency of light as described by that equation determines its color.

The way you describe light as coming from food makes me thing we might be using the term differently. I'm not sure how to resolve that confusion though.

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I can't imagine being alone like that. What keeps baseline humans' bodies safe while they hold still? Do they need their families to stay awake and watch out for them while they sleep?  Do they have a way to eat or drink something while they're asleep?

I suspect you are right that there is a difference in our physics. I do not think it would make sense to try to describe light like waves. For your light, is it more like waves in a lake when something falls into it or like someone moving their hand back and forth? Or something else?

I am also not sure how to resolve the confusion. I am going to try describing it to figure out where the drop is in our assumptions? (Some of my biological information is likely incorrect or simplified. Biology is not really my area of interest.) Plants and animals on the surface absorb light as they grow. You can tell that they are or recently were alive because you can see the light glowing through their blood or sap channels. People closer to the surface send the fresh plants and animals down and we eat them. We digest the flesh of the food and the light that's trapped inside it by tearing it up in our mouths and turning it into blood with strong sour fluid inside our stomachs. Then, there is more light inside us and we are more able to move around and think and be alive. Does this help at all?

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I believe the majority of our light comes from the Elemental Plane of Fire, though I haven't studied the planes in any great depth. We seem to process our food in much the same way as you do, Fayet, although the description of light is also confusing me. Perhaps we are less advanced in the ways of biology.

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The particle-wave duality of light is only visible with some rather contrived physical experiments. I have yet to find much use for it.

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Light travels at almost three million meters per second. Your description of light is confusing, it's as if you have an extra sense that overlays additional information, I suppose alternatively it's possible that bioluminescence is more common on your world though.

Baseline humans can sometimes be woken by unexpected or sudden sensations like noises, vibrations or bright lights. Humans sleeping in an unsafe place do often choose to have shifts when sleeping to ensure there's always someone prepared to respond to any possible dangers. Humans do not generally eat or drink while sleeping. Modern medical facilities can directly inject nutrient's into a human's bloodstream but this is usually considered an extreme measure by baseline humans.

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That sounds incredibly lonely and dangerous. I'm sorry that's happening to baseline humans, assuming I understand it correctly.

I went to the library and copied a quick explanation of how light works. As you can probably tell, art is not my area of interest.

Sunlight illuminates a plant (or animal or fungus, but those are more expensive to import, so we use plants), and the plant is illuminated with the respective color of light. The edible part of the plant is harvested, and retains the light it absorbed from the sun for one swap. If someone or something eats it during that time, they absorb the light from the plant, and are illuminated with the appropriate color of light. I do not think seeing the light is an extra sense, we see it with our eyes the same way we see everything else. Does this help with the confusion?

how light works

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It seems from your explanation that your world has two suns. Is that accurate?

Aside from that fact, I would draw a distinction between the light which comes from the suns and the light which illuminates plants and people. I have no understanding of what the stored light is. I would tend to guess that it's a magical property but it's conceivable that life on your world simply had a very different chemical basis than life on mine.

As for baseline humans being lonely that problem is not exclusive to baseline humans. Humans in general have no guaranteed company. Many of them prefer it that way.

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No, there is one sun, and it changes colors. It is teal half the time, and yellow the other half. We were not sure for a long time, because obviously most people don't see them at all, and if they do, they only see one of them. We first confirmed it several generations ago, when somebody invented a device that would record a sequence of images of what a certain region of the sky looked like across a scroll that was rolled through the device at a constant speed.

Magic runes are fueled by light, so light - or at least illumination, following your distinction, is probably a magical quality.

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I believe some worlds have suns, but of course we don't have one. It must be strange have several kinds of plants. Is it difficult to navigate them?

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If your sun changes colors then it isn't like mine. Why do most people not see the sun?

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Parakk, What do you have instead? Is your world only lit by cave-slime, or fire? What are the things you use light for? Do you only have one plant?

Riley Clearsky, What color is your sun, then? We live underground! A few people live closer to the surface for various reasons, and they grow food with high light-efficiency and ship some of it down, in exchange for people from deeper caverns sending back food grown or caught with better efficiency for other kinds of nutrition. But almost nobody who isn't doing something dangerous or experimental actually goes all the way to the surface, or somewhere they would see the sun rather at most its light.

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Our star is white when observed from space. When observed from inside Earth's atmosphere it appears yellow due to a phenomenon known as rayleigh scattering which also induces a blue color in the remainder of the sky. Both appearances are a result of the way human vision composites light together by grouping the light we are capable of perceiving  into red, green and blue subgroups and then comparing their relative magnitudes.

Well, that's how baseline humans and most uploads see color anyway. I use more advanced spectral mappings a decent portion of the time.

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Our world is lit by the Lady. Other planes are lit in their own ways, and some of the planets in the Prime Material Plane supposedly have suns.

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Magic is cool, right?

My world has two kinds of magic, though some wizards specializing in magical theory think they're really one or at least come from the same source. The kind I am is a wizard, which anyone in my world can learn to do if they want to go to school and do a lot of reading books and practicing. Wizards can do almost anything if they can make a spell for it or find a spell someone else already made.

The other kind of magic is sorcerers, who are born magical, very rare, and have a specific kind of magic they can do really, really well. Sorcerers don't have as much automatic control as a wizard casting a spell, but they're much more powerful in their area of magic. The Princess can grow and control plants really fast, for instance, and if I wanted to make a spell for that it'd be complicated to build and slow to work and I'd have to tweak it for every species of plant I wanted to mess with. The Princess can just do it. She has this really amazing garden.

Sorcerers can learn to be wizards just like anybody else, but they don't often bother. On the other hand, most people don't often bother to become wizard wizards, just learn little things like spell-lights and starting fires. Not everybody thinks it's as cool as I do, I guess.

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Well, my counterpart probably doesn't know about this, considering how typical her family is, but our world actually has ways for humans and certain spirits to reproduce with each other! Although it's sort of dependent on just how powerful said spirit is. That's where Mina and Lisa come from. Joy and I couldn't have kids otherwise, seeing how we're different species and both women.

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These are definitely all cool!

My world's more an amalgamation of other worlds; it doesn't have any native life as far as we can tell. Instead people from other dimensions wander into it, apparently by getting lost, and wind up stuck. It's made up of a bunch of reality-islands connected to each other by the ley, we think that most other dimensions probably don't have distinct edges? There's over ten thousand distinct magic systems that've been recorded, though a lot of them are blood-locked and have since died out.

We're not entirely sure how most of the reality islands are lit. The celestial bodies usually appear consistently far away, no matter how high you fly (and someone once pointed a ley-ship straight up and went for three months, never ran out of atmosphere, though that might've just been that one island being weird). People who look at the stars through telescopes tend to wind up with a headache.

Supposedly one island has an infinitely tall mountain with a perfectly asymptotic slope, but I haven't seen that one myself.

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Maybe we should make a seperate thread about magic systems, since there's probably so much to say about them?

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Don't know much about different systems myself, but that would definitely be interesting

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Sarati, people also often find The Unknown by getting lost. Does your world have any areas that connect to large temperate deciduous forests?

 I agree about creating a specific magic systems thread.

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