"It's... it means itself."

" - can you describe some situations where you'd use it?"

"People telling me to do stuff."

"When it's stuff you agree with them on? Or only when you disagree?"

"Ummmmm... that's not a thing."

"You never agree when people tell you to do something?"

"...sometimes I did it?"

Segda, sharing a horse with Iris, can't see her face and might not be able to read her expression if it could. "I want to stop and rest and eat an egg."

"Okay." They can stop and rest and eat an egg.

Munch munch. Segda breaks the shell into tiny fragments and scatters them on the ground.

"If someone tells you 'don't run headlong into the nearest tree' would you make that gesture, or is that different since you don't want to do it anyway?"

"That's not the thing that it means."

"Yeah, I'm trying to get at the thing that it means but I don't understand so I have to make stupid guesses. I'll stop guessing if you want."

"It's kind of funny."

"If I say 'don't fly', do you make the gesture?"

"No."

"If I say 'don't scatter the eggshell'?"

Hiss.

"Hey, hey, I'm just trying to figure you out, I don't care what you do with the eggshell."

Scatter scatter.

Segda flops on the ground and picks up a leaf and shreds it.

"...shred more leaves?"

Gesture.