Isabella summons an alethiometer and it comes with a surprise
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"Violence, despair, and boredom."

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"Despair and boredom, what?"

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"Somebody's husband dies, or she finishes her epic poem and doesn't have an idea for another one, or something, and she puts her affairs in order and turns up dead."

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"Just... like that?"

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"Yup, very peaceful. Yambe Akka's also the goddess of mercy."

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"I suppose if they... are okay with dying like that... maybe the despairing ones aren't..."

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"My understanding is that at least at the time they prefer it."

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"The goddesses would know...?—wait, do you have an afterlife?"

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"My guess is no."

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"Why?"

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"I think if we had one then probably dying wouldn't be particularly merciful at most of the times we do it - like, either it does freaky mind control, or you're still despairing or bored, right - and it would not be generally considered desirable to live indefinitely, which it is."

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"I... suppose..."

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Luca hops over closer to Pathalan: "We generally feel that most problems are temporary and boredom and despair don't escape that list, while death is quite not temporary."

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"Oh, we plan to live forever," Pathalan assures Luca.

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"Ideally everyone should be able to," he says gravely, "even if not everyone would want to."

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"Witches can, mostly," she says. "Just requires a little more self-management."

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"Still better than the whole 'growing sick and ill and frail and slowly losing your mental faculties one by one and then dying no matter how well you self-manage' schtick we got going on. Maybe you could figure a way to spell people into becoming witches. Or—guy-witches. Wizards?"

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"Or at least immortal. Lots of people I don't wanna hand magical powers who don't deserve to die over it."

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"I guess but currently the only selection method is 'happened to be a girl born of a witch', right, so it's not like that in itself would change much. And it seems like magic is a lot less exploitable if everyone can do it."

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"We do have, like, education and social technology about it."

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"Slow rollout? Only be given magic if you pass this course about it? Have to be adopted by a particularly prosocial witch, it's fine if no currently-existing witch does it because you're immortal anyway and you can wait?"

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"I mean, maybe, but that seems a lot more complicated than just inventing the immortality part."

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"Yeah, fair, the only part that's like sort of morally mandatory is that part, I just think having magic would be neat."

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"I'll think about it."

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"I and everyone else who wants magic thank you for it," he says, grinning and half-bowing (to the extent he can while sitting down).

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