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that looks like a pretty intractable problem you've got there have you tried throwing more leareths at it
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"Abadar conveyed that you should speak with Iomedae regarding the exact arrangements, Aroden." 

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Nod. 

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"I...am somewhat nervous about the Heartstone component, and deliberately placing myself somewhere She has power. Abadar is quite sure he could still - hold a claim on me, if anything were to happen, but suggests I set up Contingent Resurrection beforehand just in case." 

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Glance at Khemet. "Between the two of us we can manage it." 

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"And hopefully the Star-Eyed should be quite distracted. 

I want Starwind and Moondance disabled before this happens; they're her only Adepts with a Gate location inside Urtho's Tower and they're currently in Haven. I'm planning to send a diplomatic team over to request of Valdemar that they be stripped of their Gifts; if they refuse on that front maybe they'll at least agree to a Geas to not leave the Pelagirs without express invitation in the future."

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"Leareth mentioned that Vanyel was worried about their not having done this yet. It seems like a massive oversight to me, but - I suppose they did owe a great deal to Starwind and Moondance, before now, and likely that affects their feelings." 

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"They saved Vanyel's life. Possibly multiple times. They took him in whenever he was in need. And Savil's history with them goes back four times as long. I - cannot blame her, for being conflicted." 

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"And Heralds and Companions have the problem Yfandes had, with defying their gods."

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"Oh. That had not occurred to me and it should have. Vanyel did warn then Heralds of it, I believe, but - I think most of them are not as independent-minded as Vanyel." 

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"I wonder if we should do something to push the issue. They may not thank us for it now, but it would be much simpler for all parties if it were resolved quickly." 

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"I can ask Vanyel. I think it is worth handling delicately, even if it is rather inconvenient; I would rather not unnecessarily damage our relationship with Vanyel's people." 

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"I should have imposed more conditions on letting Starwind and Moondance leave at all."

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"I would not in advance have predicted they would be this stupid about it." 

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"Really? It is not outside the range of my expectations for them." 

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"...That is fair." 

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"You did not know until recently that burning out their Gifts was an option," Aroden says to Khemet. "I suppose you could have placed a geas on them." 

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"I had it prepared in case they were uncooperative. I had assumed -

-well,  Vanyel would not have handled it in this fashion. And I have been and still am heavily discounting my instincts about what should be done with them because I'm very very angry."

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Aroden nods. "I understand. I am also quite angry and - would be furious if they had succeeded at taking his soul..." He shakes his head. "You are not wrong that it is a safety issue at this point, that they still possess the capacity to Gate. Valdemar should understand this." He hesitates. "It seems worth taking some care not to warn them of the intent, or at least to ask Valdemar to restrain them on-site with compulsions before we discuss the rest with them. If they find out, they might well decide to Gate out on the spot." 

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"Or if the Star-Eyed foresees Valdemar deciding in our favor She might tell them to flee."

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Leareth tenses up - subtly, but noticeable for both Khemet and his alt. 

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"Or that." 

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"It'll damage relations with Valdemar but we could also drop by and Geas or Mindhealing-compulsion them before explaining why we consider this necessary. I think our options are - that, making up some ruse to request their return to Golarion temporarily, or assuming the Star-Eyed will continue to use them - probably to have them show up at Urtho's Tower and try to stop you -"

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"That could be very bad if other aspects also go wrong, which we have to assume they will. I - suspect the damage to diplomatic relations with Valdemar would be less, and repairable with enough time, and so that is what I would propose doing. I would prefer not to go myself; I could send Nayoki with Vanyel, I suppose. I think it would help our cause considerably if Vanyel were on board with it and explained himself to his King afterward, he has gotten away with that before." 

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Nod. "Then I think that should be done."

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"I can explain it to Vanyel when I head back to Cheliax tomorrow. Aroden, if you see him before then, you could mention that I want to talk to him about a trip to Haven, so he can start planning for it." 

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