"Results of attempting to do that are consistent with the wishing machine having been manufactured by inherently magical people who didn't use writing!"

"And wishing them resurrected is a bit risky."

"So we're saving it for an emergency?"

"I suppose that'd be the worst circumstance possible to do it in. Saving it until we've acquired more fantastic cosmic power might be worth it, though."

"How much, precisely?"

"I want the ability to affect adjacency but have no particular expectation we'll get there. ...we're close on portals between adjacent worlds, though. Space can do this sort of permanent worldleaper gate thing that's lethal half the time but they think they can fix that ... I suppose you could always go home and see what we can be expected to come tell you happens if we resurrect the powerful entirely magic aliens..."

"Portals are possible with eclipse magic... that or somebody passed through, but they selectively admit specific eclipsed or people who've interacted with eclipsed in certain ways so I'm betting it's native. But we're adjacency-limited. Valar can do portals, are they limited to doing it from their Ardas or hard to convince to do 'em elsewhere or -?"

"Don't want to rely on them and what we especially would like is nice subtle portals from Space to its neighbors so we can send demons on projects without making it obvious that dimensional transit exists, and the Space Valar really don't like us."

"Do they also not like anybody who likes us?"

"You have someone in mind?"

"No one in particular, it just seems unlikely that there is nobody in Space on good terms with the Space Valar who has an alt in another Arda who's friendly with the peal and could convince their Space alt to make a petition..."

"A Lúthien or a Rúmil, probably - though the Lúthiens are all pretty not-okay with the Space situation, I don't know how wise it is to confront them with it a lot -"

Wince.

"..."

"Rúmil in Ithil was one of the people Melkor grabbed on her way out and she got obliterated in the eclipse."

"If I ever get grabbed again you should just kill me, that's not - there'd be no -"

Kib squeezes his hand.

Squeeze.

"Yeah, kinda figured to expect she'd rather not exist again."

"There's occasional discussion on the Angband-survivors mailing list of how likely it is - it's a big multiverse -"

"Recapture, or not being out yet in the first place?"

"The former, everyone's got different numbers for the latter -"

Nod.

"It is a big multiverse and there are plausibly dimensions with a lot of oomph but no dimensional transit and there are lots of ways things could go horribly wrong."

"Well. Congratulations on not staying paranoidly home."