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carissa, somewhere else
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Two Modify Memories. The first one erases the first five minutes, and goes off cleanly; the last thing she can remember is deciding to work on corrigibility, which is what the note claims she started with. So far, so good. 

 

The second one is the one that is kind of a little bit like dying. Not that she's going to dwell on that; one, she doesn't have time, and two, she's already missing half her memories of how she got here and what the plan was and if she gets distracted she'll fuck up. 

Focus. 

 

Keltham would say that on any occasion where you're deleting your consciousness you should expect to wake up somewhere else, but Carissa is not persuaded by this theory of Keltham's.

 

Modify Memory.

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- and she finds herself somewhere completely different.

 

Gods fucking damn it if Keltham was right she's going to be so mad at him and also never see him again probably if this is another planet. 

...she's just going to Gaseous Form and get the fuck out here before anyone notices that there's a young woman with an expensive headband here.

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It's well after midnight, and Archmage-General Altarrin is working late again. His office is spacious, well-lit by permanent mage-lights, and even though it's safely inside the guarded walls and thoroughly secured Gate-termini of the royal city, and tucked away behind all the protections on the Emperor's Palace, he keeps permanent wards on it. Several that are standardly taught in the Empire's mage-curriculum, another half a dozen that can be found buried deep in ancient books if someone looks with enough determination, and a handful that no one else alive knows exist. The last few, he recasts daily; to be impossible to detect, they have to be low-powered, which trades off against duration and staying power. 

Lately, he has just as many enemies inside the Palace as outside. It's very frustrating. 

 

- the alarms trigger for something, though the information they send to his mind is very confused, and almost immediately afterward they trigger for - something that is at least recognizable as a burst of powerful unknown magic.

He's already surging to his feet, reinforcing his personal shields despite the multiply redundant talismans he wears as a matter of course – it's not that physical attacks are a likely danger, here, but it's still important to be visibly, ostentatiously impossible to harm by force – and he's readying a Gate-destination in the back of his mind, and triggering a trap-spell on the inner door leading from the vestibule, that won't exactly prevent anyone or anything from leaving but will certainly make it hurt (and the outer door is sealed against all but a handful of powerful and little-known magics) - and it's only then that his conscious mind catches up. 

There was a woman there. Very briefly. Then there was magic, and now there - isn't. 

 

He doesn't have Thoughtsensing in this body. It's been rarer and rarer over time in the Empire; initially he suspected they were mis-calibrating the incentives for the mage-breeding program, and tried to correct that, but now he suspects something much closer to enemy action. He has only his Adept-strength mage-gift, but he instantly turns his Othersenses fully on the place where his wards think the magic happened. What's there? 

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Hazy tangle of magic, like nothing he's seen before. It's moving away from where the alarm triggered and towards - the ceiling?

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This place is extremely well-secured with some of the most impressive magical protections she's ever seen which is not a great problem to be trying to solve while disoriented and very low on spells and missing five of the last ten minutes of your memory which made your current plans make any sense. She's going to try to ...sneak out a chimney, probably, if there are any -

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She is not going to think about whether this place is in Hell though the magic doesn't look like anything on Golarion, and has the flexibility and intricacy of outsider-magic -

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....Summoned air-elemental? It doesn't look right to his mage-sight, but it looks even less like anything else. Doesn't explain how he thought he saw a woman's figure for an instant, but his eyes hadn't actually focused on the scene yet and it could have been an illusion. Though if it's an assassination attempt, it's an idiotic one doomed to fail, and if it's a threat - someone proving they can slip a summoning past his wards, with the implication that it could have been a horde of Abyssal demons - then he doesn't understand why

He could try to banish it, but then he would be giving up any chance at learning who sent it, and why. 

Trapping an air-elemental not inhabiting a construct-form is nontrivial, but he flings a tight mesh of mage-energy around it. 

(There is not a chimney. It's cleaner and simpler to heat the inside of the Palace with magic, and it's much safer not to leave that kind of vulnerability.) 

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What even is that, who cast it - looks human - 

 

Well on the fucking bright side if she dies here she'll just show up somewhere ELSE, since Keltham is APPARENTLY RIGHT -

- that is a fairly crazymaking line of thought and she should stop it. 

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The hazy tangle of magic that doesn't really look much like a disembodied air-elemental does not appear to be trying to escape his force-net. 

Altarrin takes a deep breath, centers and grounds himself fully, and then pulls the net down toward him, so that he can cast the mage-technique for giving the creature a magical construct-body. Hopefully it will be one of the kind intelligent enough to talk. 

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The spell does not give gaseous Carissa a magical construct-body because she already ...has a body...it's just Gaseous. 

 

....why aren't they casting Dispel Magic. Where is she. 

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...Well, that didn't work. And the way it failed should have been informative, except that he has no idea how to make sense of it. The haze almost looks more like a set-spell than like a living elemental, except - there's something else under it, something subtler - and it's not in any style he recognizes - 

Maybe a distance-casting? Which isn't generally known to be possible to do past wards, but he can do it, so. 

He takes a breath, and then focuses his mage-sight in deeper, trying to see past the hazy surface to the structure. 

(Altarrin is still very calm. This is confusing, but being alarmed and panicked isn't going to help - and if he dies again, well, so be it. He feels something closer to tired resignation than he would really prefer, at the prospect.) 

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Well, Carissa is panicked!!!! She has NOT gotten used to dying yet and also is badly disoriented by everything that has just happened and this place is fancy which means that if she dies of illegally being here, it'll be slow, and it'll mean next time she starts out even more on the back foot. Also Keltham might be wrong and at some point you just run out of places where your consciousness continues -

- let's set that entire line of thought aside as unproductive. Right now, there's a powerful notwizard here, staring directly at her. She can wait until the spell runs out in about seventeen minutes, but he'll probably call over more people before that, and it might be more possible to talk her way past one than past a larger crowd. He hasn't called in backup yet, so possibly the politics here are complicated and he isn't sure of his security, or the security he's surrounded by aren't his, or he's very sure she can't threaten him despite evidently not recognizing her spell

- she really can't guess with this little context -

 

 

...if she dismisses the spell sooner that suggests she's a weaker wizard. She'll cut it at five minutes.

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Altarrin pokes and pokes at the structure, and he still doesn't recognize it and can't really piece together what it does just from how it fits together - it feels like not all of it is where he can see it, which would make sense for a distance casting but there's still a note of confusion there...

 

Despite the surprising amount of power tied up in the haze, it doesn't look like it's rigged to explode. On priors, it's most likely to be a spy-spell of some kind? In which case he is not inclined to give whoever is watching from the other end any more information, and surprising them by breaking the spell is as good a warning to send as any. 

 

Find a weak spot, ready his mage-gift, and snip 

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The spell breaks; the collapsing mage-energies lash against him, not like a spell that was strategically rigged to explode, just like one that wasn't meant to dispel like that. 

And there's a woman, perhaps 25, in a nightgown;. The spell sears her as it goes down, definitely enough mage-energy to kill a person, though she does not, in fact, die of it. 

 

She takes a deep, shaky breath, and drags herself up from the ground to a kneeling position, and says something incomprehensible.

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Altarrin's shields deflect the energies that lash out in his direction, though not without effort; most of the power collapsed inward, onto the woman. Who was apparently not an illusion after all. 

Altarrin is incredibly confused and doesn't like it at all, but he's already reacting on instinct. He flings up a loose force-net around the woman, not actually pinning her but at least preventing her from leaping at him if she tries that, and he sends out a lance of magic and triggers an alarm-artifact by the door, and half a second later he's activating his communication-spell artifact. Unlike Mindspeech, it's not secure, but it doesn't have to be for this. 

<Spy in my office. Injured. Send Healers> Pause. <And a Mindspeaker> 

 

And then he refocuses all of his attention on the kneeling woman. Holds his face expressionless, giving away nothing. "Can you understand me?" he says, levelly, in the standard language of the Empire, and then again in the region's trade-tongue, and again in the language spoken in Seejay - 

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She sure can't, because she isn't even very good at languages and also suspects she's on another planet!!! She could cast Tongues but she is pretty sure if she tries to cast a spell right now he'll kill her if he doesn't have a better way to stop her, he doesn't seem like an idiot and it's the only thing a non-idiot would do. 

 

He'll almost certainly kill her anyway, of course, but she's not going to force his hand.

 

 

She shakes her head and says in Taldane 'I am here by accident, my lord' repeatedly because at some point someone'll get him a Tongues. 

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Altarrin waits.

(From Carissa's angle, he's holding himself perfectly still, apparently not even tense, his arms are at his sides and his expression is utterly unreadable.) 

The mage-guards - personally loyal to him, and not compulsioned for it, though of course they're under the various standard compulsions related to the Emperor and the Empire - reach the room first. They've drilled this. Altarrin didn't let up until they had the response time down to ten seconds. They leap into formation around him. Raise shields. 

(From Carissa's perspective, the magic here is brighter, flashier, but not any more recognizable. It might look more like a sorcerer's spell than a wizard's.) 

The Healer arrives next. Altarrin raises a hand, barks an order, and the man freezes, and then approaches Carissa cautiously. Not touching her, just getting close enough to hone in with his Sight; not all Healers train Sight at anything other than touch-range, but Altarrin's Healers aren't just anyone. The woman looks like she should be badly injured and probably unconscious, but what does his Sight show? 

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Well, there sure are burns all over her body, but - to Healing Sight she looks basically fine? Her life-force is way stronger than any person's should be, as if something's feeding her a lot of Healing-energy constantly somehow - or, not quite that, but that's closer than anything else really.

 

The burns are everywhere, but fairly superficial. There are some deeper ones on her chest where the brunt of the spell hit, but they're not life-threatening either. 

 

 

Consistent with this, she is kneeling on the floor and very much conscious, watching the guards swarm in with something like exhausted resignation. She's repeating the same thing over and over. 

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(Presumably if they want her to shut up they'll light her on fire again.)

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Well, in that case they're not going to bother trying to Heal her before establishing communication. A quick conversation confirms that none of the others recognize the language she's speaking either. Not that this is surprising at all. Altarrin speaks way more languages than anyone else in this room, though only five of them are publicly known as languages he speaks. 

 

It takes more like three minutes for the Thoughtsenser to arrive, at a run; she's a mage as well, and shielded. She nods to Altarrin. Doesn't bow; everyone knows by now that he doesn't stand on formality, and finds it irritating when people waste time on it in an emergency. 

"Can you read her?" Altarrin asks the woman. 

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She's a moderately powerful Thoughtsenser, and can boost it a long way with her mage-gift. Can she? 

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She's got weird shields, like it's something she's doing instinctively rather than something she's doing on purpose but way stronger than instinctive shields get. When she feels the touch of Thoughtsensing on her shields she lowers them, lets whoever-it-is through.

 

She's terrified but she figures they can absolutely make her let them enchant her or mindread her or whatever that was an attempt to do, and she's not actually going to improve her already very slim odds of surviving this by being an incredibly annoying prisoner. She has Tongues but assumes they will not be amused by her trying to cast spells right now. The thing she's saying over and over is ''I am here by accident, my lord', and it's true, but she wasn't born yesterday and doesn't expect them to care; she'll live if she's useful and not if she isn't. Though, you know, pretty almost fifth-circle wizard who's very good at enchanting, probably most people would keep that alive if they had a way to hold onto it. 

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Ellitrea, the Mindspeaker/Thoughtsenser, has no idea what to make of this - but this means the right move is to bounce it to the Archmage-General. Which would ordinarily be almost impossible to do with someone un-Gifted, but for a man in his position it's worth the effort, and she has to admit that Altarrin is unusually skilled at something that seems to matter, there. 

:I think I am not getting everything: she acknowledges to him. :The - system she is thinking of for assessing mage-potential is not coming through clearly. But I am quite sure she is not hiding anything, and very sure that she truly has no idea who sent her: 

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(Well, when it comes to picking up concert-work without oneself having Mindspeech, it helps a lot to have had and trained the Gift in previous lives and previous bodies.) 

He hates it when people - or entities that cannot precisely be called people - try to betray him by sending innocent people who have no idea what they're going to destroy. The fraction of Altarrin's surface thoughts that he's making visible past his shields show no hint of his unhappiness, though. 

Acknowledged, he thinks back at Ellitrea. I am going to check her for compulsions. ...Tell her that we are going to place some compulsions of our own. The standard one for nonviolent political prisoners. 

And now that he can get a proper look at her, does the woman have any kind of compulsion on her mind? Or other magic laid on her, come to think of it, or any artifacts? 

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Ellitrea reaches out with Mindspeech. :We are aware that you came here by accident and have no idea who sent you. We are going to place some precautionary compulsions anyway – only the ones for political prisoners, unless you attempt any violence, in which case we will resort to the more restrictive set: 

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She is under a totally unprecedented amount of mind-altering magic, apparently originating in the incredibly complicated headband she's wearing. Her ring is also incredibly magic, and her bag, and a pin on her cloak. She's not under any familiar compulsions; the magic looks far more comprehensive than that, like it's altering nearly every thought in her head in some gentle way rather than doing something targeted. 

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She lowers her shields obediently. ...presumably 'we are going to place some precautionary compulsions' is an order to do that? She isn't sure why you'd tell her that, if not to order her to do that. 

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Well, if she hadn't done that it would not strictly speaking have prevented Altarrin from doing whatever he wanted anyway; it's hard to shield against compulsions from a mage with enough skill, and Altarrin is the best in the world. 

He is very uneasy about the headband-artifact she's wearing, though. The others too, but that one in particular might, no, will interact with compulsions - and if she was sent here by an agent aimed at tearing apart his plans, which is the prior until proven otherwise, then it doesn't matter what she thinks it does.

Ellitrea, tell her we are going to remove the– Pause. Tell her after I order one of the mages to do so. Hold off on the others, though, tell her to think very clearly about what they are for. 

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Does a good yank with targeted mage-energies, from a careful distance, suffice to dislodge the headband-artifact? (The mage in question is not especially trying to shield the spy from any backlash, if the artifact doesn't like being removed; it looks stable enough, and besides she's apparently impossible to seriously injure.) 

Ellitrea is going to hesitate and keep reading the woman's thoughts before intervening. 

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It comes off. Her expression doesn't visibly change; no one likes whiny prisoners, and they'll know exactly how she feels about it without her letting it show on her face.

 

(The way she feels about it is 'utterly miserable'. She will, realistically, probably never have one that powerful again, even if they decide to let her live, and - that's a bit like dying, and not like the kind of dying where you just show up somewhere else.)

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Altarrin places the compulsions himself. Given his skill, and the fact that she isn't currently trying to resist in any way, it's probably not going to feel like anything at all to Carissa. 

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:We are going to hold onto this at least temporarily until we understand its function: Ellitrea informs Carissa, while the mage-guards carefully - and without touching it at all - wrap the artifact in a thoroughly shield-enchanted cloth for transport to a Work Room. :We may be willing to leave the others for now, if we are confident that you are hiding nothing about their function and they pose no danger. ...I would like you to think very clearly for me about what the artifact we removed is for, and then about what the others are for: 

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- they don't know? 

 

 

It's an Intelligence headband, the most powerful kind anyone in her civilization knows how to make. The pin does Glibness and they're obviously going to take it off her. Those are both of her own making; she's quite good at it and they shouldn't kill her they should just lock her up somewhere with a lot of spellsilver and let her earn her keep she's very talented and very well-behaved and in fact before she arrived here she was working on - actually she's going to steer herself to a different train of thought now, they can get that out of her if they try but she's not going to just hand it to them before she even knows if Asmodeus exists here/now.

The bag is a Bag of Holding, not of her make. Inside it is her spellbook which they're obviously going to take, spellsilver, a series of magic items meant to assist with various stages of headband-crafting so it can be done by idiots and not just her, some notebooks full of research notes, and some sex toys it's a long story. 

The ring is a Ring of Sustenance; they're probably going to take that too but she does want to point out that if they're going to have her at work enchanting things she'll be far more valuable with the ring on, and that if they're going to torture her for information, the ring'll make that involve much less in the way of irritating logistics of keeping her alive. 

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From Altarrin's perspective, this is very densely informative, once it's relayed to him. 

 

It is not informative in a way that results in fewer questions. But at this point it's also stupid to interrogate their mysterious not-even-knowingly-a-spy while she kneels on the floor of his private office

He instructs the guards to take her bag - a bag that's bigger on the inside? it has to be doing something with other planes, maybe the Void? it wouldn't have occurred to him to try that and even having the thought he's not at all sure how he would start - but to leave her pin as long as she continues cooperating, it's mind-affecting but it's not that powerful. She can keep her ring. (They may want to study it, later, but he's going to want to bring Healers in on that anyway, and study its effects while she's wearing it, if it really does what she's claiming.) 

Ask her if she can walk, he tells Ellitrea. Tell her we are going elsewhere. Out loud, he asks one of the guards to go ahead and more thoroughly secure one of the rooms in the Palace infirmary - the one usually reserved for political prisoners. It's unfortunately a longish walk from here. 

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Was he trying to light her on enough fire that she couldn't walk, when he dispelled her Gaseous Form in that incredibly aggressive way, and didn't realize she was fifth circle? ..probably magic works sufficiently differently, here, that it's very hard to guess what he intended from the result. Anyway, yes, she can walk. 

 

She's probably not going to see an opportunity for escape but if one does present itself no don't think about that they're Detecting Thoughts. 

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Altarrin calls for another dozen mage-guards - not his most trusted inner circle, but they'll follow orders and they won't ask questions - and, once they arrive to escort the woman, he peels off from the group. He can comfortably scry from an artifact and cast at a distance anywhere in this region of the Palace, thanks to preparatory magic laid not just in this lifetime but in a dozen earlier ones, and there's no reason he has to be there personally. He wants to think

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It's about a ten-minute walk to the secured infirmary. A dozen hard-faced guards wearing their own obvious magical protections join the existing crew, and the corridors the entire way are blanketed in permanent set-spells. And Ellitrea is reading Carissa's mind, ready to intervene if she somehow notices an opportunity to escape - unlikely - and then also slips it past the currently-invisible-to-her compulsions. (For this level of precaution, it's overkill to forbid thinking about escaping, even Altarrin can't do that without seriously impairing the subject in a surprisingly broad range of areas, but she would have to be exceptionally skilled and practiced at working around loopholes in compulsions in order to actually try it, or ignore the immediate orders to stop.)  

 

Once they arrive, there's a plain but comfortable room with a bed and armchair and even a small writing desk. Someone has already delivered a jug of clean water and another of wine. 

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She's not seeing an escape opportunity. Maybe if she had spells prepared. 

 

Which means the obvious next thing to try is praying. Iomedae is really the person to ask about whether Asmodeus is here/now, and the god who might command her rescued or assassinated to keep her knowledge out of this kingdom's hands. Unfortunately she is pretty sure she can't reach Iomedae directly. She could maybe try for Abadar and tell Him that Iomedae would probably pay a lot to receive this message? Or try Irori on the principle that as a cleric of His she'll have an easier time getting His attention, except for how she literally just told Him to stay out of her way??

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That's not a good sign???????!!!!!!!! 

:Archmage, we have a PROBLEM: 

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Altarrin listens to the relayed summary. That is, indeed, definitely a problem! In fact, Altarrin thinks with a distant sort of calm, Ellitrea doesn't know a tenth of it. 

 

:Do nothing to alarm her, but - keep talking to her, keep her distracted. Tell her that she can sit or lie down and the Healer will do something about the burns. You can ask if she needs anything for pain, first: He grits his teeth. :And then as soon as the Healer is going to begin, have them put her to sleep. Obviously we cannot keep her that way, but it will buy us time to - try to figure out what is going on - and I will need to figure out a different set of compulsions before it is safe to question her about this...plan of hers: 

And then he can panic. It still won't help, of course, but at least if they can get the woman safely unconscious, it won't risk his current body and the Emperor and maybe the entire Empire. 

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Wow. The Archmage is really scared. It's not that he's leaking much, but once you know him well enough, it doesn't matter. 

You need to be a good actress to reach Ellitrea's position. She gives scarcely any hint of being disconcerted or uncomfortable while she converses with Carissa, relaying what Altarrin told her to say. 

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Well, if they're playing nice she's certainly not going to betray expecting worse. She'd be so grateful for something for the pain. (She's not even sure what they mean by something for the pain, separate from a Cure Moderate Wounds, which ought to be adequate for the burns). 

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Apparently it means that they'll bring her a cup with some sort of unpleasant-tasting syrup in it! They offer her water to go along with it, and then the Healer brings a stool over and sits down next to the bed, and Ellitrea explains that he's going to need to touch her, and she should hold still and try to relax, this will take a few minutes. 

The Healer in fact just does some Healing first; putting someone to sleep is easier if they're relaxed, which this woman is not - she's incredibly jumpy, what sort of place sent her, is it the sort of place that tortures people for interrogations even though that doesn't help - but having a stable link to her will help.

(This is definitely not a Cure Moderate Wounds! It's not instantaneous, for one, and it feels a little like cool water being gently trickled over her burned skin, except it's instead under the skin. It itches slightly.) 

 

Whenever Carissa seems to be relaxing into it a little, the Healer will put her to sleep. 

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She isn't starting out relaxed at all but she is, in fact, really tired, it's been two days since she slept at all. 

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- she does notice it as it's meant to kick in. They're putting me to sleep, she thinks, and fights back a reflex to panic and fling the Healer across the room. She's a prisoner. They can do whatever they want. 

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Altarrin passes on a few messages before leaving. 

First, he reaches out with a communication-spell to the commander of the Emperor's personal guard. <We have a potential situation> He explains, briefly. It's not like they know a lot to convey, yet. <Warn the Emperor and go to high alert, but follow the secret protocol for external threat>

Meaning that they don't expect the plot to be coordinated with anyone internal to the Palace, and relatedly it's a secondary concern to make sure none of the Emperor's political enemies notice there's a problem. Altarrin is so tired of tracking this as a concern. A functional empire shouldn't be like this. Even now, he's not entirely sure what went wrong. 

He orders his own guard to seal the infirmary. They are to keep the woman asleep until his return, which he estimates will be in several candlemarks but may be up to a full day. If something goes wrong, they are to render her unconscious; they should try very hard not to kill her, both because they desperately need to learn who sent her and because, whatever the danger of her arrival, she is still almost certainly an innocent catspaw in this game. 

He tells his people how to contact him, and then he Gates out. 

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The Eastern Empire does not keep most of the records he needs to consult; it's another level of information security against the gods, in a way. Altarrin doesn't recognize any of the names that were relayed to him. He's not making too much of it, yet. All it means is that they didn't previously make it personal enough that he retained the memories of names across what could be dozens of lives by now, or clearly important to enough to put in his prioritized summaries. 

He Gates nine hundred miles, directly to one of his underground records caches, and spends a minute catching his breath, before ruthlessly suppressing the urge to spend a lot longer than that trembling on the floor. He might need to review quite a lot of notes, and he needs to make it back within a day. 

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Three candlemarks in the first records cache does not turn up any answers. 

 

 

At this point, it seems reasonable to take a break and spend twenty minutes getting all of the terrified shaking out of his system. 

 

 

Afterwards, Altarrin Gates to the next cache. It's inconveniently far in the opposite direction. He'll need to rest before returning to the capital. It's not even just because of this new threat that he can't afford to be vulnerable there. 

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The second cache doesn't have any answers either, even after he spends thirty minutes with a list of god-names and variants collected so far and half a dozen treatises on linguistics, trying to guess at possible phonetic shifts over recent centuries.

 

He's so confused. It's hard to think about, though, because it's taking an unreasonable level of effort just to keep his heart rate down. He hadn't realized there was so much fear here – it's not strategic, it's not helping, and if anything the lack of any answers could be positive information - if this wasn't an enemy he knows, that opens the possibility that it wasn't an enemy at all, or that it could be an enemy of the empire but not of his - and yet. 

Focus. Think. He needs a plan

He's so scared. 

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Altarrin is back about nine candlemarks after he left. It's midmorning now. He hasn't really slept, beyond a twenty-minute nap he managed to snatch on a pallet on the floor in the safety of his cache, before waking with a start. 

(Working in a position of visible and acknowledged power within the Empire isn't good for him. He's known that for a while. The systems and precautions he built - the culture, the society, that he built up around them, over centuries - are enough to keep out the most egregious of the gods he now knows are his and perhaps the whole world's most dangerous enemy, but whenever he isn't personally there to keep pushing, the place starts eating itself. And so he's here, trying to build an oasis of trust while the people around him fight vicious, pointless, wasteful games, and it's exhausting and it leaves him feeling like none of the structures around him will really bear weight...) 

He takes stimulants instead, and Gates back to an obscure shielded Work Room, just in case someone did notice his absence and managed to get past the mages loyal to him in order to booby-trap his office or plan an assassination. He doesn't think it's likely, but this is how paranoid he needs to be, to avoid the risk that one in a thousand or one in ten thousand times - 

There are no reports of problems in the infirmary; the woman has been peacefully asleep, though the Healers are grumbling about the rotation required to keep her that way. The Emperor wants an update. Altarrin gives one, to the best of his ability; it can't be very satisfying. 

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And then he forces himself to head back to the infirmary, which feels dangerous in a way where he has to override centuries of engrained instincts. But it won't help to run away, and so he doesn't. 

He's had some time to think about what compulsions he needs to prevent someone from taking the purely mental action of praying to their god. It's probably overkill, his Thoughtsenser wasn't actually sure if the woman was an established worshipper of any of the gods she named - except for the one called 'Irori' but apparently she isn't anymore and he has very little information on how that impacts a person's ability to summon a god's attention. Really, the main information they have is that the woman, herself, thought this was a plan that might plausibly succeed. 

She's not going to be very functional when they wake her up. Which means this isn't a long term solution. They need to get answers, figure out what this woman's goals are and whether she can be convincingly persuaded to not pray to her god or gods. Conducting an interrogation with someone who doesn't share a language and is under a seriously impairing suite of compulsions isn't going to be easy. 

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Carissa will wake up in the same place she went to sleep. She's not hungry or thirsty, thanks to the Ring of Sustenance. Her body feels slightly stiff, as though she's been in the same position for a long time. 

And she's under an absurd and very noticeable degree of mind control, her head suddenly full of walls, directions where her thoughts are barred from going. 

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Well that's terrifying and horrible -

- no. If they want her to be unable to think, then she'll be unable to think, that's fine. She'll learn what thoughts are allowed and only have those and then it won't be so bad. She will not have a breakdown, even purely internally, about what kinds of torture are locally preferred.

(Everyone who went to Abaddon because they wanted to stop existing must feel like such a dumbass afterwards when they land somewhere worse than Cheliax, though.)

 

If the thought is permitted all the way through, she thinks that she is grateful about how she apparently still exists and will be very very obedient.

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Ellitrea, who was dragged out of bed and has not really had a chance to sleep since then either since she was on duty to check if the Healer's sleep-technique failed, tries not to show any of her distress as she relays this to Altarrin. 

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"Tell her that she can sit up." The compulsions won't strictly prevent that, but they might prevent her from noticing that she can, or she may just be too afraid of startling them. Which is fair enough. "You can offer her some water, and then tell her that -" 

He pauses, thinking quickly through how best to frame it. 

"- tell her that we have seen no indication she wishes harm to anyone here, and that we would prefer not to operate on hostile terms, but that we were alarmed by her thoughts of praying to various gods, and are now very concerned about the goals of whichever Power arranged to send her here." 

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This can be relayed in Mindspeech. 

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She sits up. 

 

If Abadar and Irori and Iomedae are banned here obviously she won't pray to them. She might have a hard time picking up the state religion - it's not disobedience, it's an unfortunate tradeoff with the mental techniques for headbandmaking - but she can easily avoid participating in any banned ones. 

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(Lawful Evil country? It almost has to be; Chaotic Evil wouldn't have her in a furnished prison cell with people communicating that they're going to place the standard compulsions, and Lawful Neutral doesn't ban Abadar.)

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(She had previously concluded she was probably on a different planet but her thoughts aren't really going through right now to line this up as an objection to her previous guesswork.)

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All of this continues to be extremely confusing. Unfortunately, Altarrin is aware that the compulsions he placed are going to make it even harder to figure out something coherent from the woman's thoughts, no matter how hard she's trying to cooperate. 

He doesn't smile at her, but he tries to keep his body language relaxed, to look calm and as non-threatening as it's feasible to look while they're keeping her prisoner. 

"We have no state religion here; worship of any god is illegal, and no temple orders are allowed. Part of our confusion here is that we have never heard of any of the gods of whom you are thinking." He pauses. "Ideally, we would question you about Them and Their possible motives, in order to draw at least some tentative guesses as to which god or coalition of gods might have arranged to send you here – or whether the simplest explanation is that it was a mortal plot and no gods were involved. This may be too difficult for you to think about with the compulsions I placed on you to prevent you from actively praying to any of the gods in question. In that case, I hope we can come to an agreement where you will believably commit to not doing so, and I can remove the compulsions so that we may have this conversation more easily." 

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- Rahadoum? No. They speak Taldane, there. 

 

 

But some place like it, possibly in some other time or world or something. 

 

She doesn't think a god sent her. Well, maybe Nethys. She doesn't think the gods she thought of earlier sent her. She can't think through why not without hitting a wall. It just doesn't seem like something they'd do. Probably whatever sent her here is what sent Keltham to Golarion? She can't think what that was either. She thinks that's not the mind control and she just doesn't know but she's not sure. 

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Some other time? Some other world??? 

Altarrin doesn't even have questions, yet, his thoughts are still too unformed for that. He wonders, vaguely, where and what 'Rahadoum' is. What it means. 

"If you were sent here from another world," he says, slowly, carefully, "then it is plausible you will not be able to attract the attention of the gods you know from your own world - and if so, I would not expect Them to have any ongoing influence, certainly not the usual finesse. But I am not sure enough of that yet. Are you willing to give your word that you will make no attempt to draw Their attention to this place?" 

(This is relayed.)

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She won't try to reach any gods, she won't be disobedient, she won't be difficult.

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In which case he will remove all of the additional compulsions! (Though not the invisible ones preventing her from executing an escape or harming anyone or sabotaging any infrastructure, etc.) It takes a minute or so, clearly going one piece at a time, and doesn't feel at all like a Break Enchantment, but Carissa's mind gradually opens again. 

Altarrin, perched on a stool by her bed, leans forward. "First. Who is 'Keltham', what sent him, and from where?" 

(Ellitrea relays this, uncomplaining, though she's getting slightly tired of this process.) 

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(She has Tongues hung, if he wants her to be able to understand him or speak. It's fine if he doesn't, of course.)

 

Keltham appeared out of nowhere in her world. They don't know what sent him. They thought at first it might have been a coalition of the gods but it also might not have been; certainly many of the gods were working at cross-purposes about it.  He was from dath ilan. In dath ilan they have very sophisticated systems of social control and everyone's very smart and they are prosperous and doing heredity-optimization for Lawful Good. She learned from Keltham, and now knows lots of things about alchemy and mass production, at the cost of the mental techniques making it very hard to believe what you're supposed to believe. 

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"Ellitrea, ask her to think in more detail about this magical technique for language translation? It would certainly be convenient, if we can confirm it is safe." 

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It certainly would be! Mindspeaking someone un-Gifted gets exhausting after a while. Ellitrea cheerfully relays this request. 

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Meanwhile, Altarrin is rapidly taking notes on 'dath ilan' and 'Keltham' and the limited but very intriguing context she's already conveyed. 

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Tongues is third-circle single-target, twenty minutes per caster circle, allows you to understand all languages and speak them. She isn't sure what else a person could reasonably want to know about it. It's not an enchantment, it's a divination.

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The entire way she thinks about magic is incredibly alien. Altarrin isn't sure how it would be possible at all to do that with magic - what's doing the work - it's especially baffling that she expects it to work even another world, that means the spell can't be accessing a set of records of translation between languages... 

"She can cast it." This is relayed. 

He watches with mage-sight, very very intently. 

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Tongues. She feels so incompetent and slow and stupid though of course she's more than capable of casting Tongues. 

 

 

It's like she's releasing some absurdly complex set-spell that she had somehow stably tied up all-but-finished; it's powerful, and beautiful, and very unlike anything a mage can do. It settles around her gently. She immediately returns her hands to being clasped in her lap. 

 

"I can understand you now, my lord."

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Altarrin watches with curiosity and awe, which he tries to conceal, more on instinct and habit than because he actually expects it to weaken his position here.

“I have a number of questions,” he says. “As do you, I am sure. Since we will have to start somewhere, I would have you start at the beginning - tell me of where you are from, of the gods you were thinking of before and their known actions in the world - and of your position in your country of origin. And then tell me about this 'Keltham''s arrival, and - a timeline of what happened between when he arrived, and - whatever led up to your sudden appearance here." 

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"- yes, my lord." Wow she actually really does not want to talk about any of that. She hasn't really thought about most of it properly. 

"I'm from Cheliax. It is a kingdom in Golarion, which is the third world around its star, on the Material Plane, which is very big and has many worlds in it. Cheliax serves Asmodeus, Lawful Evil god of tyranny, slavery, and compacts. He's, uh - well." She was planning to overthrow Him and take His job.

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(Ellitrea is still reading the woman's thoughts, and relays the part she leaves unspoken.) 

- Huh. Altarrin is thinking that he can respect that. And he wants, so badly, to reassure her that she's not in danger, that she's somewhere better. But it's not true, he doesn't know if he'll have the luxury of not hurting her while still keeping the Empire safe. He isn't going to make a promise that he can't keep.

(What's wrong with the world, that he might have no choice but to kill someone who isn't even trying to hurt him or the Emperor or the Empire, just because she might be a weapon aimed at a distance by a Power opposed to his goals? What does it say about his priorities?) 

 

"I will have more questions about Cheliax and Asmodeus later, I am sure," he says levelly. "That will do for now. Tell me about Keltham's arrival." 

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"He appeared suddenly at the Worldwound - uh, there's a big hole that opens to the Abyss and demons pour out of it, I was a staff wizard with a company defending the world against it. He recalled having just died in his own world, and so he had this theory that if you die, you will experience being suddenly somewhere else in the universe; it's not that suddenly appearing people will have usually died, but, if you're going to die, you should expect suddenly appearing somewhere." She had all kinds of complicated skepticism about this position but trying to do novel thought on anthropics without her headband just seems like a waste of time. 

"He was Lawful Neutral, and he wanted to teach all dath ilan's innovations in Golarion and make a lot of money. But we thought he probably wouldn't work for Cheliax if he knew about - well, you know, all the ways a Lawful Evil country inherently is -  he was very naive - and he definitely would do something about Asmodeus if he knew about Hell. - that's the Lawful Evil afterlife. Asmodeus doesn't run it in the interests of His slaves, obviously." This is why she was going to overthrow Him. "Anyway, we deceived Keltham for three months, but then he figured it out and exercised his compacted right to depart, and I was in charge of managing the project in his absence."

Except she realized that Keltham's arrival had changed the game and they had an opening to make Asmodeus make better use of souls, and she was - fighting on the wrong side, if she wanted that to happen, she'd rather Civilization win more concessions so long as the subsequent fight didn't destroy the world - she was worried it might. Keltham is terrifyingly cavalier about destroying the world. He wouldn't be, if he knew, if she could tell him, that most places are worse, but she's guessing she can't contact him. It might be millions of years later or in an entirely different universe or both. 

"Anyway, I had some disturbing realizations that made me less useful to my superiors, decided to set myself on a more practical course and then erase my memory, and I was just doing that, from my perspective, when I wound up here, which is what I'd expect to experience happening - or really I'd expect to be stopped by Security, if that happened in a hundredth of worlds, but in worlds where the spell went off, I'd expect something like winding up here - but that doesn't at all answer your question of who sent me, it's entirely useless for answering that." None of that is going to make any sense to someone without prior exposure to ilanism. He's going to assume she's insane and a useless slave. 

"...but all of that was the product of very unusual circumstances, my lord, and until Keltham arrived I had no history of being heretical or difficult to control, and I am no longer under those unusual circumstances and will not be rebellious or difficult again."

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Altarrin listens intently, his eyes fixed on her. He's impressively fast at taking notes, clearly doing it in some kind of shorthand. 

From his expression, he is not at all assuming that she's insane. 

"I need a moment to think," he says when she's finished, and goes silent for a while. 

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- and then fixes his eyes on her, even more sharply. 

"So Keltham is from a world that is far more technologically advanced than yours?" he says finally. "You did not specify this, but I will venture a guess that his world does not have gods." 

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"He didn't think they had any, my lord. They knew none of the history of their world, they had vacated their old cities and destroyed all their histories, and one obvious guess is that they did have gods, and wanted to stamp out worship of them."

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Altarrin had been about to ask about Keltham's theory that dying means you should expect to suddenly appear somewhere else - it's clear from her thoughts, still being relayed by Ellitrea, that this is somehow based on a school of reasoning that Keltham had learned in his world, one she expects most people of her world to find insane. But now he has more urgent confusions.

"They destroyed all records of their history? And - in that context I would imagine they left their old cities in order to avoid information leakage from things like the design of old buildings. Your theory is that they did this to stamp out worship of gods, but - my first question would be, why did the gods allow that to happen? It would not seem to be in Their interest. ...Also, I am curious what Keltham's guesses were for why. It is certainly an extreme measure - even for a more advanced and thus wealthier civilization, the cost would be huge, and it would close off many future options - unless they retained a class of elites who were allowed to know their past..." 

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"They did retain that, yes. The Keepers ruled both before and after the transition; the Keepers are those who learn special techniques and secrets, possibly including magic which Keltham didn't know about.

I don't know why their gods would've permitted it, if They did, but maybe it served some god fine, to have most people ignorant of Them. Or maybe their gods all died, or they never had any, I'm not sure. The Keepers were hiding something, and I think it was related to gods."

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"The Keepers. Interesting."

Altarrin wants to press her further, keep digging into the question of what Keltham's homeworld went to such lengths to hide and why - and if it was gods, his question becomes how. Because if he could destroy all knowledge of Velgarth's history, in exchange for a future free of the meddling of gods, where advanced technology can develop unhindered - 

- well, it's not true he would do it in a heartbeat, because that's the scale of decision you want to spend fifty years thinking through if at all possible, but he would be motivated to try very hard to find a way of doing it at an acceptable cost. 

It's probably not the highest priority right now, though, especially since Carissa's knowledge of it is all secondhand - or thirdhand, even, it sounds like maybe Keltham had only guesses at the motives of his world's 'Keepers'...

"So you had just settled on a new plan," he says instead. "Which it seems involved erasing your memory. How much do you still recall of what your plan entailed, and in particular, which other gods' interests it might have served?" 

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"...all of them? I was trying to prevent Keltham destroying the world."

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Her unspoken thoughts, relayed by Ellitrea, might have hinted at that, but Altarrin is pretty sure he didn't get all of her reasoning. 

"I think you need to explain in more depth why you believe Keltham would feel that destroying the world is a reasonable solution to any of your world's problems." 

His voice is still level, mostly, but in the last bit, it's kind of obvious from his voice that he cares strongly about this. 

(She thinks it's impossible for her to contact Keltham now. Which it might be; Altarrin knows far too little to hazard a guess at whether he could find his way back to her world with something as mundane as a Gate, or even in principle.) 

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(...She thinks that the world she's in now is worse than the one she left behind, where a god of tyranny ruled her country - where her entire mind is clearly shaped around knowing that she needs to obey, and believe the right orthodoxy even in her thoughts, or else be destroyed...) 

 

He wishes he could say she was wrong

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" - dath ilan believes - that you should, clean up, unusually bad corners, of the multiverse, places where powers opposed to humans dominate, places where people suffer - people do suffer in Hell, pointlessly, but you shouldn't destroy the world about it, not when you could just fix it, not even if you couldn't, it's just - so important that people exist -"

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Well. That's certainly - a very upsetting state for the world to be in, if it's true, if the woman's inferences about a world she never saw directly are right.

If she's right, then the last thing Altarrin should do is try to find Keltham's homeworld, no matter how much their technology could help. Because it's not exactly a stretch to guess that Velgarth, too, would be one of the corners of the multiverse they would want to erase. 

"Is this related to Keltham's belief that - people cannot be truly destroyed because they will wake up elsewhere?" he says, and his voice is flat and utterly empty of emotion. "Does he believe that the outcome here would be– would be squeezing everyone toward those worlds that he considers acceptable...?" 

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"Yes. But - but I think that there's still - almost everything that matters lost when someone stops existing, even if, in some place far away, there's something that remembers being them - I was going to repay Keltham all he did for me, and then try to convince him. He's very young, and what we did to him was awful, I'm not mad at him, I just wanted to change his mind."

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Altarrin wants to tell her that he understands, that he respects and admires that goal, that he'll offer her whatever he can to help her save her world. That he agrees - or, well, he's not sure if he agrees in all cases even in principle, there are hypothetical worlds where he might, reluctantly and with horror, make the call that they were impossible to fix and given that their existence was worse than nonexistence, but - in general, he doesn't expect to draw that conclusion for a world where the people living in it desperately want to keep existing. He supposes he only has hard data on one of the people of Golarion, right now, but - that's still enough to set an overall prior. 

And he's known places here that were worse than the Eastern Empire, probably worse than Cheliax, in terms of day to day grinding suffering. The people scraping through their tenuous lives one day at a time in the aftermath of the Cataclysm, who saw their children starve and their villages burn at the hands of roaming bandits, still preferred to exist – and proved it, in their desperate moment-by-moment struggle to build a life even as their foundations crumbled under them. 

(Her world has an afterlife, she mentioned it, and that changes things, but he's not sure it changes the relevant things for that.) 

 

 

If he tries to say any of that, right now, she isn't going to believe him. She's from a place where trust wasn't rewarded; he needs to give her strong, convincing signs of goodwill, to earn her trust, and so far all he's given her is the opposite. 

He takes a deep breath, and - lets some of the bleakness he's feeling slip through. 

"I wish I could give you my word that I will help you save your world. I do not expect you to believe me, so giving my word would be meaningless, and it may not be possible even in principle - I know too little to judge. I wish I could at least commit to offering you safety here, but -" a bitter twitch of his lips, "- but I am certain this is one of the corners of the multiverse that Keltham would think better destroyed, and while I am powerful here and will offer you what protection I can, I am not sure it will be enough. We are operating under the constraint that, as far as I can tell, all of the gods local to this world are opposed to the interests of humanity and technological progress, which is why I was so badly alarmed by your thoughts of attracting a god's attention in order to improve your own situation. It seems likely now that that worry does not apply." 

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"I ...appreciate that, my lord, but on Keltham's theory of what happened there's no reason to think I'm not still in my world, doing my plan, which I was pretty confident would work, though I was smarter when I came up with it and can't reproduce it all right now. I'm probably still there, rather than having been removed from there, and we probably can't go back, because there's no reason to think my being here would happen at at all the same time as my being there...or I could be completely wrong about all of this, I'm not Keltham and Keltham wasn't a Keeper and the Keepers might've been lying. 

 

I guess we should at least check. I don't have a tuning fork for the Material and I'm not sure that'd get you to Golarion anyway....I also don't have a tuning fork for Axis but I know how to get to Golarion from there?"

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The thought of a form of magic - if it's even that - that creates copies of people, is even weirder than one that supposedly shunts a person's memories and experience to another world, if they're permanently destroyed in one. 

Altarrin sighs, slightly. "This theory of different worlds actually makes more sense of a number of confusing observations. One of which is that our magic appears to operate rather differently. I am not sure if we can replicate your intelligence-enhancing artifact or your language translation spell at all, using Velgarth mage-techniques; I am more hopeful that it would be possible to travel between worlds using our magic, since we know it is possible to travel instantly between distant places, and also one could theoretically open a Gate to any of the other planes although it would not be a wise idea. However, I do not recognize what you mean by a 'tuning fork', and I am also not sure what - or where - Axis is? Is that one of the additional planes of your world?"  

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"It's the Lawful Neutral afterlife. It's the safest one to aim for, if we're trying to travel to a Golarion world. Hell will want to know if you're aligned with Hell and Heaven if you're aligned with Heaven but Axis doesn't really care as long as you aren't breaking their rules.....I probably have inaccurate information about the afterlives, most gods and their churches were forbidden in Cheliax."

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Altarrin nods. "Actually, can you explain your world's afterlives in general? I do not think we have them, here - certainly nothing so systematic. Were they built by the gods, or are they naturally-occurring other planes that were repurposed? Are the gods involved in causing people to end up there when they die? Why are there so many of them?" 

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"Pharasma, who created the universe, made the nine Outer Planes, which vary from Good to Evil, and from Law to Chaos. There are gods of each of the nine planes. Mortals, when they die, are judged and go to the plane that matches their actions in life. I'm Lawful Evil. Most people are, in Cheliax. Most people would be, in most places, except they're scared of Hell so they try to do enough Good to stay out of it. Law is - uh, most people you ask in Golarion would say it's obeying rules and respecting authority. I think dath ilan would say it's coordination and being the kind of entity that can make, and that does keep, promises. This is a Lawful Evil country, I am pretty sure. 

Hell is Asmodeus's. It's the Lawful Evil afterlife and it's not as bad as people say but there is a lot more torture than I think is actually useful, because it wouldn't be a tyranny if there were any restrictions on how you could treat those under you. 

Axis is a collection of lots of cities. They have different rules but you can go to whichever you want, which is - sort of how Lawful Neutral is, I think, voluntary coordination, people acting in their own interests in a way that doesn't step on anyone else. Keltham was Lawful Neutral before he decided to destroy the world. 

Heaven is Lawful Good. Everything I know about them is definitely propaganda. 

Abaddon is Neutral Evil and eats the souls that go there and I hate it." And am planning to invade it once I rule Hell.

"The Boneyard is Neutral and it's mostly full of kids, Pharasma doesn't want people to be Neutral, She tries to send them somewhere else."

"Nirvana's Neutral Good and I don't know much about them either."

"The Abyss is full of demons and it's horrible because it's full of demons."

"The Maelstrom is pure Chaos and eventually if you turn into a chaos beast there you become impossible to interact with and can't have effects on the world."

"And Elysium is Chaotic Good. I dunno much about them either. They were intervening a lot in the Keltham situation, for some reason, I think trying to help me convince Keltham not to destroy the world."

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And Ellitrea can confirm that all of this is, at the very least, something the woman honestly believes. And add a few details that she didn't speak out loud. 

Altarrin is still confused. 

He's confused about her world and its gods. That's such a specific system - so much infrastructure, apparently maintained by the gods - and such an oddly tidy method of categorization, which he doesn't entirely follow because the woman mostly isn't explaining it and Ellitrea can only pick up a little extra from her thoughts. But if his inferences and guesses are right – and if the woman's knowledge is true, rather than propaganda or even just human misunderstandings of entities far too alien to classify with words – then some of the gods are...friendly to human interests. 

He's confused about dath ilan, and Keltham. There's a picture starting to form, but the pieces don't yet fit together. A world with an advanced civilization, that publicly acknowledges no gods and perhaps never had them at all. A world that destroyed all of the records of its own past. That thinks it best to destroy entire worlds if they're not above a certain bar for human flourishing - and it feels like that could be related to the previous point, that somehow there's a coherent worldview and decision process that produces both of those, but he doesn't see it yet. It's a world that believes in, or at least speaks positively of to its young people, coordination and people acting in their own interests as long as it doesn't harm anyone else - systems that emerge from this and build beautiful things, though that's more half-glimpsed from her relayed thoughts than explicit in her worlds -

Dath ilan believes being the kind of entity that can make and keep promises... For that, if it's true, Altarrin can admire them. He doesn't see yet how it fits with the rest. 

 

 

....And maybe most fundamentally, he's confused about the woman sitting in front of him right now. Speaking clearly, not letting her fear control her, even though he knows that she's afraid. A woman who immediately responded to being a helpless prisoner by promising obedience - until Keltham arrived I had no history of being heretical or difficult to control, and I am no longer under those unusual circumstances and will not be rebellious or difficult again, she said - 

- and in her thoughts, never quite spoken out loud but definitely hinted at, she had planned to defeat a god. The god who she used to worship and serve. Because she thinks that Asmodeus is running his afterlife badly. 

 

 

Most people aren't like that. Most people could never be like that even given the best circumstances, and it's clear that this woman was given among the worst circumstances for it. So much of her is still - boxed in, visibly-to-Thoughtsensing constrained by the invisible walls of a society caught up in tyranny and lies.

(Altarrin knows what that looks like. He understands it. Lately he sometimes finds himself wishing he didn't, even though of course it's better to see the world as it is.) 

He doesn't feel like she can possibly be real. 

(If she isn't, if she's instead a lovingly shaped, carefully-planted spy pointed at garnering his sympathy and admiration so that he lets down his guard– ....probably not worth chasing down that line of thought, he doesn't see how it could work and if it's somehow the case anyway then he's not sure what he could do about it.) 

He's so tired. This is clearly an urgent problem, and it's also the most interesting thing that's happened in the last 500 years, but he's already taken more time away from his usual duties than he can really afford. And he still doesn't know what to do

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Focus. 

"Thank you," he says calmly. "Your system sounds - better than the one in our world, in many ways, and certainly far more legible and organized."

He lets himself sigh visibly, again. 

"- I am not ready to declare that your world cannot be reached, though - I expect if it is possible, it will be very difficult, and this is not a good time for an intensive research project. So, on the premise that you are permanently out of contact, and the world you left behind - with the version of you still present there - will have to sink or swim on its own. If you are going to be here for the rest of your existence, what would your plans be? Or, what questions do you need answered, before you could figure that out?" 

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What is he playing at. 

"I would ask who I serve, my lord, and what he'd have of me."

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....That's fair. 

"This world is called Velgarth. You are currently in the region that calls itself the Eastern Empire. In the Emperor's Palace, in fact. I am Archmage General Altarrin; I report directly to the Emperor. It was in my office that you suddenly appeared." 

He frowns slightly. "The Empire has a strong rule of law, and I think that once you know more about the local conditions and expectations, you will probably find it a straightforward enough place. We do generally manage to avoid torture when it is not useful. You - will definitely need to know more about our world before we could trust you with anything important, but I am confident you can pick that up quickly, and that when you have that context, you will not desire outcomes that would damage the Empire any more than I do." 

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In the Emperor's palace. She is not actually coming up with an anthropic explanation for that.

 

It's not where she'd have chosen to go, if she'd landed literally anywhere else. Ask around for which nobles have a reputation for an even temper, for not destroying their subordinates too readily, pick someone quiet well away from the Emperor who'd keep their advantage to themself. She is not, in fact, competent to keep herself alive in an emperor's palace. She'd have been shredded in Egorian if Abrogail hadn't wanted her intact, and 'Emperor' in fact implies more power, a larger pool of people drawn from for dangerous games, higher stakes for them to play for, more levels of governance -

 


She's not sure what he's trying to say, exactly, by 'you will not desire outcomes that would damage the Empire any more than I do.' Just that there'll be loyalty tests he expects her to pass? Something about her loyalty being to him not the Emperor, or the other way around?
 

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"You said that magic items of the kind I know how to make would be difficult to make with your magic. If it is your will, my lord, I would make those, for you in your service of the Emperor," and thereby be worth protecting from whoever else might be interested. 

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- and there it is, more evidence for the hypothesis that Cheliax manages to be even worse than the current (deplorable) state of the Empire, in terms of - permitting and rewarding its most talented mages and scholars and leaders in actually thinking through plans and coming up with ones that work, in actually trying to understand the world, and discover things that no one else has before...

"I think that would be of incredible value to us - if it were needed, I would use my own influence to make sure you are given the resources you need and left undisturbed to work on that, but I think it will not be needed, because the value will be obvious. ...Can you make the other magical artifacts you carry? The ring that replaces food, or the bag that is bigger on the inside?" 

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"I haven't made a Bag of Holding but I could. I haven't trained in rings at all - it's a separate problem topologically - but it's probably not very difficult to learn." Making magic items is never really all that difficult. She'd be tempted to pretend it was, so he'd be impressed, except he's reading her mind.

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(He's not the one reading her mind, though from her perspective that doesn't matter - he still wishes, entirely pointlessly, that she could have picked better timing and arrived in this world when his current incarnation did have Thoughtsensing. He's a lot better at it than Ellitrea, it's not her fault, no one who isn't centuries old can be expected to match him, but he's sure that he isn't getting everything, and could be getting a lot more from her–)

She's unusually competent at artifact work, relative to the expectations of her society and teachers. That much comes through clearly. And it seems like a lucky coincidence - or not-coincidence, as the case may be, he still doesn't understand most of what's going on here. 

"I think all of that would be of enormous value to the Empire," he says. "Though I would also wish to spend some time on research, and seeing how our two worlds' different kinds of magic might best combine." 

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"I'll need spellsilver - I know which ores it can be refined from, and how to refine it - and a quiet workspace, and, if the Emperor does not prefer I sell everything directly to him, a rule of who I'm permitted to sell it to, and what share of my profits I am permitted to own in my own right," assuming perhaps optimistically this is a place where women can own things and a place where non-nobles can own things, but may as well set high expectations.

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"Of course! We can provide a summary of the Empire's property law and the usual systems for entrepreneurs - I am sure the Emperor would be happy to pay you directly for your work, and probably very well, but it is not mandatory and you ought know all of your options. ...Remind me, how long will your translation magic last, and does it also allow you to read written text? We will probably need to find a better solution long-term, we can use Thoughtsensers as a stopgap measure but they are rare here." 

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"I don't know your time system but we've used maybe a fifth of it. I can prepare enough Tongues to mostly get through the day if you return my headband to me" too pushy? well, the only way to find out is to get lit on fire sometimes, "but can't make it permanent until I'm much more powerful."

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Nod. "It certainly seems that returning your headband would improve your effectiveness in almost all areas, and especially those which are likely to be most valuable to the Empire. I think - I hope - that it is in both of our interests for you to have that, but since our world does not know of this magic, we have no way to know what else it might do. Could you explain in more depth how the intelligence-enhancing magic works?" 

(He's smiling slightly, now. The difference is quite notable.) 

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Is he mocking her? Carissa loves Abrogail very much and also if Abrogail were smiling like that at someone they would be about to have a very bad day. 

 

"It enhances what we call Intelligence or Cunning - the mental quality necessary for magic. It makes it easier to add long strings of numbers in your head, or anticipate the way a spell will balance, or remember a conversation, or use some dath ilani techniques I've been trained in."

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That’s intriguing. (And the fact that she can make more of them is - well, it’s definitely going to change a lot of things.) 

“What sort of dath ilani ‘techniques’ are you referring to here? Techniques for doing what?”

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She'd really rather not speak of most of what they can do, 'being a heretic' is not a valued skillset, most places. "For developing better spellsilver manufacturing techniques."

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(Ellitrea, of course, relays this anyway.)

In fact, Altarrin wants to know everything about the 'techniques' - mental techniques, based on the thoughts that Ellitrea was picking up, exercises for thinking differently, thinking better according to dath ilani tastes but the woman currently feels that it's a worse way of thinking, here in this place. She doesn't trust him, which is honestly sensible of her, so he doesn't want to keep pressing yet, but it seems like - probably the key to why she has such a rare degree of ambition.

It seems plausible that exposure to dath ilan, through this 'Keltham', is what made her the kind of person who would plot to conquer a god and fix His domain. 

"I see," he says, and then gestures at one of the guards. "Return her things. The bag as well, please."

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Carissa will have her headband and Bag of Holding back thirty seconds later! 

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"I do expect I will wish to study them later," Altarrin says, "but you need not remove the headband for that." 

In fact, watching with mage-sight, does anything change with the headband - or with what he can see of Carissa's life-force - when she dons it again? 

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There's nothing especially visible to mage-sight; to Thoughtsensing, it's fairly obvious that she's thinking more, faster, that there's more going on in her head. It makes her harder to read; more of her thoughts are quick-passing internal references to concepts she's not bothering to unpack.

 

She's letting herself think a little more, now. It's a bad idea to act on ambitious plans formed while her capacities were substantially diminished. It's now a good idea to act on ambitious plans if they serve the Archmage-General, and of course because she is obedient all her plans will serve him, so long as she knows what that means. 

If the Empire doesn't have arcane magic but it works here it's going to transform everything very quickly; she should figure out how much she gets to steer that. It'll also easily enable the Empire to conquer any neighbors; she should arrange, if it's safe, to get some of the benefits of that. 

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Ellitrea relays this. Altarrin thinks that it's very impressive. 

"Well. I think our next steps here are for you to speak to one of our experts on magical theory, to explain your magic and ask whatever questions you have about ours. Unfortunately, I need to return to my usual duties."

Last night's work, fortunately not urgent on the scale of candlemarks but definitely urgent on the scale of days, is still abandoned on his desk. It wasn't the worst timing that could have happened, but it wasn't ideal either. 

"We will arrange for you to have a guest room here in the Palace," he says. "Do you need anything else, to be comfortable here and able to work at your best?" 

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No? Yes? If she knew the set of things a person needs to operate in a Palace and not get shattered or executed in the space of two weeks then she'd probably be equipped to handle it! Is she his? Is she the Emperor's? Are they Keltham-ing her, pretending this is a lovely safe place where nothing bad will happen, she should just do whatever happens to suit her fancy so long as that includes building them weapons of war?

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Which are reasonable concerns, she's looking for answers to all the right questions, and Altarrin desperately wishes they weren't the right questions, that her fears were unfounded and he could prove it to her - it wasn't like this two hundred years ago...

It was a lot worse fifty years ago, though, when he was working his way up, supposedly the mage-gifted and very promising son of a minor noble, sent to foster (or be a hostage) at the Palace with all the other noble children - an unfortunate practice that swung up during a gap a few lifetimes ago, when he had inconveniently reincarnated all the way down on the southern coast and needed to travel overland as a visibly half-Haighlei twelve-year-old. (Which had also given him a lot more challenges in establishing his credibility here.) But fifty years of work, and his hand in selecting the current Emperor, have at least helped. She will be safe here, because nobody manages to cross him and succeed anymore, but - it's not unlikely someone will try. 

He can try to explain some of it, at least, and - arrange for the servants who attend her to be ones inclined to gossip, and eager to talk to an exotic stranger? He suspects she can garner quite a lot from idle servants' chatter. 

"For now," he says, "you are officially my political prisoner, and I need not explain anything about why. With the level of precautions and restrictions on your movements I will impose - which I think you will not find too onerous - and since you are visibly not local to the Empire, other players are likely to assume at first that you are a merchant who tried to deceive an agent of the Empire in trade, or something of equal severity. They will expect that I intend to use the leverage I would have over you, if that scenario were true, in order to persuade you to work for us. I will be arranging to send you books on our history and our magic - hopefully your magic will let you read them - but in any case, relevant people will infer that you are a mage, that you are clever and not to be underestimated, and that I intend to make use of your talents. There are definitely several players who will be considering how they can turn the situation to their advantage, but given my reputation, I think they will bide their time and try to learn more. - You ought assume that anything you say or do in front of servants will reach the ears of someone - though different servants report to different nobles, and are varying degrees of loyal, so the individuals in question will perhaps end up with rather a patchwork picture." 

He sighs, slightly. "Of course, it will become apparent in not too long that your magic is different, and going to be transformative. At that point, I think there will be - a scramble to plot something - and we ought consider how to make the announcement such that the scramble is to my advantage and does not put you in danger. Does that make sense?" 

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She feels substantially safer, hearing that. At least she's not in the hands of someone who has no idea how to navigate his Empire, or is pretending not to, or wants her to believe there's nothing to navigate.  She is of course not at all safe, is in substantially more danger than she was as a traitor in Cheliax, because she knew Cheliax, knew how to navigate it, and here she just has to count on being useful enough to him that he'll manage it for her. 

(Did she land on him in particular for a reason? Keltham thought he'd landed on Carissa for a reason. If the same force picked his landing-place as hers - what force, what does it want -)

(A related question that is also an obvious one with no tropes-related reasoning required: is he inclined to fuck his political prisoner. He's not acting like it, but she shouldn't expect to beat his bluff.)

"That makes sense. I understand and will cooperate to the limits of my ignorance of your society."

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(Ellitrea manages to keep a straight face, but barely, as she passes this on.) 

Altarrin knows how to navigate his Empire. He can wish all he likes that it required a different set of skills than it currently does, but it would be stupid, to pretend the world is different from what it actually is.

Though this woman would certainly have been less impressed if she had met Ma'ar, instead...

"You are clearly intelligent even before the extra magical help," he says drily. "I am sure your ignorance will not last long. Would reading our histories help with that, do you think?" 

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You can learn a lot about a society from what they allow to be written in their histories. "I'd expect that'd be very helpful, my lord."

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Which is very true. Altarrin expects she's going to be surprised by something, here, he's suspicious that Cheliax is in fact doing substantially more deliberately-shaped propaganda on that level. It's...not really necessary, here. You can get away with a lot less social engineering via such indirect means when you can use compulsions instead. 

"Then we can arrange that promptly. Does your magic in fact allow you to read our language, or will you need someone to read it out loud for you?" 

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"If permitted to prepare spells, my lord, I can prepare ones that let me read the local language." Though they might prefer to read her the books, if they're changing them.

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"- Of course we will let you prepare spells! We could hardly benefit fully from your magic without that." He ducks his head slightly. "Though for now, I would prefer if you tell me which ones you intend to prepare, and we will have someone supervise the process." A thin smile. "In fact, I would rather like to watch it myself, if you wish to prepare your spells now?" 

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YES, she'd like to be a wizard instead of a commoner who's harder to kill. "As you wish, my lord."

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Altarrin sits back, smiling again. "Right. Can you explain which spells you intend to prepare, then? - Also I am curious about how the process works in general; our magic does not work like that, mages can sometimes learn a technique from books, but once we know it, we do not need to set aside time for preparing it in the morning if we want to use it that day - and it seems as though you have a daily limit that is not just about your reserves. And - you use a spellbook, yes?" She said it was in her Bag of Holding, which is now back on the bed beside her. "Is that just for reference, or something more integral?" 

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" - with your leave, my lord, I'd prepare four of Comprehend Languages, which will permit me to read in this language, and four of Owl's Wisdom, which enhance - the mind's ability to notice things, including things in itself, and four of Tongues, which I'm using to speak to you." She can prepare lots more than that but would rather maintain some capabilities in reserve.

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Which Ellitrea picks up on, of course, but for now Altarrin isn't going to press her on it. 

"Of course. Out of curiosity, can those techniques also be cast on others? I would be very curious to experience the 'Owl's Wisdom' one."

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"Yes, my lord, not all my spells, but most of them, can be cast on any willing person." Also many on unwilling people but she'd sooner not be used for that; it's not like it is necessary to use her to take over the world and it involves much more risk to her person and much more apparent benefit from killing her in particular.

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And it's very much not in his interests to antagonize the only person in the world who can use her sort of magic. Which Altarrin hopes will become obvious to her as well, if it isn't already. 

"I will definitely want to hear more about the other spells later, but for now, you can go ahead and prepare those." And presumably she knows that they'll have someone reading her mind to make sure that she's doing the ones she agreed to. 

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Then she will start building her scaffold and start hanging her spells on it. She's not going to try for fifth, even though she's close, because it'd be so embarrassing if this scaffold is messy .What if he can see it.

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Altarrin watches intently. He is probably not going to notice any sloppiness or lack thereof as notable either way, given that this is the first time he has ever seen a Golarion wizard spell prepared. 

(His attention is also already half elsewhere, trying to leap ahead to his plans - what he needs to tell the Emperor - which of his various contingency-plans he might be able to pull in...) 

During the time it takes Carissa to finish preparing her spells, his expression does not change at all. 

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And afterward, a servant arrives to alert Altarrin that the guest-room is ready, are they ready to escort his - guest - over? 

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"Do you need anything else?" Altarrin asks Carissa. 

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"Spellsilver, my lord, if you want me to make you things, or a laboratory to make it in."

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"- You do still need to convey what that is, but it might be simplest to explain it to one of our mining and ore extraction specialists," especially since he very badly needs to get back to his ordinary work. "I can send them to meet you in your new guest quarters?" 

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"That should work. Thank you."

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Half a dozen of the mage-guards jump up to escort her, apparently without coordination (it's being done via Mindspeech). 

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Altarrin doesn't. He nods to her, leaves the infirmary room ahead of her, and then walks the other way. 

(And then, of course, continues to receive reports of her thoughts in real time from Ellitrea. At least until she's reached her guest room.) 

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There are more people ambient in the hallways than when she was initially led to the infirmary. Some of them glance at her, though they mostly succeed at hiding any expressions of curiosity. 

She is not granted any obvious opportunities to escape. The extra guards pulled in after her questioning are more visibly on-edge than the ones who responded to Altarrin's urgent call for backup, but the guards loyal to Altarrin are clearly very used to working together, and vigilant enough not to leave her any openings. The hallways are blanketed in protective magic and wards. 

(If Carissa is paying attention, it might be noticeable that all of the guards are under several layers of compulsions; they're much lower-powered than Golarion enchantments, and have the same freeform, less structured feeling as all of the magic.) 

Her guest room is much more ostentatious than the infirmary, with a thick rug, polished walnut furniture, wall tapestries, and permanent mage-lights that can be controlled by verbal commands. The bedroom contains an enormous four-poster bed with curtains for privacy. The bathroom has indoor plumbing with hot and cold water, not obviously magical at this end, and she can use different verbal commands to heat or cool the room to her comfort. There's a skylight set into the ceiling, thoroughly reinforced with more protective spells. The walls and the door are girded with detection wards (some of them hastily added in the last half-hour or so based on instructions from Altarrin, who had the best look at Carissa's Gaseous Form spell.) Two of the guards station themselves outside the door. 

Someone has already delivered a stack of books for her and left it on a writing-desk set against the wall under the skylight. 

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She's not expecting escaping today to work very well. She's trying not to think about when escaping might work. It's probably not even a good idea. The Archmage seems to be an unusually safe person to be the prisoner of, and it's possible she landed on him for a reason. 

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She would still kind of like to have more information than she does at present on what he wants. But, well, there are lots of things she'd like to have and that's not even likely to be the most survival-critical. 

 

She will...sit at the desk and start writing up descriptions of spellsilver refining processes. Keltham would be worrying about intellectual property; she's not. She is worried about not rendering herself more disposable, but in the short term, she won't teach anyone the Prestidigitation trick and in the long term she'll just have to figure out what makes people disposable here.

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If this were an earlier era in the history of the Eastern Empire, there might be enough mage-Thoughtsensers that Altarrin could select someone brilliant and experienced at magical research to eavesdrop on their visitor's mind. Just to learn more, faster. If at all possible he would still compensate her later for anything he learned that way, of course - and it's not even that he doesn't trust her to share her knowledge, it's clearly up to him to give her the right incentives and he's confident he can do that– 

 

It's the present era, though, when he has only a small handful of Thoughtsensers and Ellitrea is exhausted, and so Carissa's current thoughts, whatever they are, will go unobserved. There's no point in dwelling on it. 

Altarrin is still having a stupidly difficult time focusing on his neglected work. He keeps finding himself sending over more instructions to the guards via the communication-spell artifact. Even though he's not worried that their 'political prisoner' is going to try to run away.

...He's worried about her safety. Which, on the surface, makes very little sense - she's in the Palace behind all of the usual protective wards and then some, he has guards who he personally trusts watching her, and hardly anyone knows that she exists let alone how interesting and potentially valuable she is.

It's just– well, he's failed to save a lot of people. And it's feeling very salient, right now, that the people he's failed to save are disproportionately those who left him feeling the way he does right now, about this woman from another world. That she's bringing something new to the table, that he's never met anyone quite like her before - that there are a hundred different plans he could start to prepare, but he wants to wait, because they'll be better plans once he earns her trust and can have her input. 

 

Altarrin is pretty sure that it's unstrategic to let this distract him, right now. Their visitor is very hard to kill or even injure badly, he's seen that himself, and he has no reason to think that the gods can respond quickly to something like this. 

....He still hasn't properly slept since yesterday, which is predictably not going to help.

He passes on a few more contingency-orders to his mages. Writes a report, locked with magic so that only the Emperor can read it. Catches up on the most desperately urgent tasks in his backlog.

And then puts up some additional wards and shields on his office, pulls out a bedroll, and falls asleep on the floor. 

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They leave Carissa alone for almost forty minutes, which is about the length of time it takes for another sufficiently strong Thoughtsenser to be pulled away from his other duties, and for Ellitrea to brief him. 

 

Forty minutes or so later, someone knocks on the door to her guest room. 

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She's finished a spellsilver shopping list, spent a while staring at all the spells on her surroundings, and then started idly self-harming to stave off her exhaustion. She does not feel at all ready to sleep. 

 

"...come in?" she says to the knock, in case they want her permission for some reason.

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A man who looks to be in his sixties, silver-haired but still healthy and fit, comes in. 

"Delias," he says, nodding without quite bowing to her. "I invented several novel techniques for applying mage-gift to extracting metal from ore. Altarrin sent me because he says that you need some kind of metal in order to make artifacts, and you can explain to me the process you know of for mining the ore and purifying the metal?" 

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" - yes. If you can extract just the metal directly with magic, then you won't need any of the steps we use, they're all just for getting the metal to an acceptable purity. You're looking for what we call spellrock, a red/green-brownish, waxy mineral, often found in beach sands. Then we heat it with oil of vitriol, which I can make with magic from sulfur, oxygen and water, and precipitate out - how much alchemy do people know, around here -"

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His face lights up, and he glances around for something to sit on and then settles on leaning against the wall near her desk. 

"It's very helpful to know the usual non-magical steps, to figure out an efficient magical process! We have so many more mages now than we did when I was a little child, but not enough that we can afford to be profligate with it– oh! I might know what mineral you mean but I will have to consult the reference guide..." 

He digs in his pocket and pulls out a compact textbook, which he starts leafing through, his brows furrowed but his eyes almost glowing with excitement. 

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Carissa is not remotely under the impression that if the person you're talking to seems to an adorable researcher-type it's because that is what they're really like. Nor is she remotely under the impression that it's safe to share secrets that make you more disposable if you're sharing them with happy researcher-types. But she does need to prove she's worthwhile, and so she will happily play along.

Do they know the theory of electrons, it helps predict how alchemical reactions are going to go and explains what's going on when you get spellsilver hydroxides. 

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It takes a while to get on the same page, despite the translation-spell and Delias's sheer enthusiasm; it seems like this world has a different ontology around chemistry than either Golarion or dath ilan, presumably because of their different magic. And their scholarship is...noticeably less advanced even compared to Golarion. Delias has several reference-books on him, all hand-copied, and all written within the last 400 years.

Eventually something that Carissa is saying seems to click, and he yells excitedly to one of the guards that he needs a copy of The Mathematical Theory Of The Material Plane by Shotivir of Lorn right now. It's apparently an old and an obscure work, given that it takes ten minutes before someone can track it down, and once they find it the book is clearly very old despite the preservation-spells laid on it. It does prove to contain some theory that roughly matches Carissa's understanding, and then Delias has more ideas for relevant reference-books to request. 

After a couple of candlemarks, Delias is very sure that he knows how to get the raw ore to her, and moderately sure he can figure out a mage-technique to extract this 'spellsilver' to a high degree of purity. 

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Wow. 

They're going to put Keltham to shame. It's not at all a fair comparison. 

 

 

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"Spellsilver oxidizes, you need to store it in oil. If you bring me a sample I'll know immediately if you did it right."

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Delias bobs his head in agreement. "Of course it would! - At least, that would obviously follow, if your theories of it are correct! ....This will probably take at least until tomorrow, but I will bring a sample to you as soon as we have it." 

He beams at her and then leaves. 

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Outside the room, but keyed to the wards, Ketar - who is very young, clever at least according to the standardized tests used in the capital, and has a moderate-strength Thoughtsensing Gift - is still doing his best to read Carissa's mind. At least while she's maybe thinking thoughts which are interesting. He's been told to save his strength and reserves whenever he can, and the briefing he got from Ellitrea, who works directly for ALTARRIN WHO IS TERRIFYING, was pretty confusing? He's not incredibly sure what he's supposed to be watching for. 

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Carissa is trying not to think very much, and she's very good at it. She's here; she's going to make them magic items. She hasn't even asked if the normal afterlives attach to here; it's important, obviously, but there's no reason for anyone to tell her the truth. There might be a mention in these books, or that might be fabricated, or she may have spent five years unconscious when they put her to sleep so they could write these books.

 

Whatever. They'll at least tell her what she's supposed to believe.

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Ketar is UPSET and CONFUSED but his job is to watch and take detailed notes and definitely not to have opinions on them. 

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There are a lot of books! The stack is in roughly chronological order; from oldest to most recent, it starts with the first two volumes of A Grand Reckoning Of All Times And Places From the Cataclysm To Today, a copy of My Reign, the Chroniclers of the Founders, three volumes of the Court Annals of the Nine Good Emperors, the University Records of Lyanthar and finally concluding with A Personal History Of Woeful Days and The History of Mykos of Endiya. Off to the side are Lives Worthy Of Imitation and The Campaigns of Pelin the Great.

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Think of a sentence. 'Carissa Sevar does not have the skill to achieve this and yet has some kind of compulsive itch to try anyway.' Twelve books. What's left over when you count up the number of letters in the sentence and divide by 12. Three. 

She picks up 'My Reign' and starts reading. 

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(Ketar is trying very hard to parse whatever is going on in Carissa's thoughts right now but he feels like he's missing kind of a lot of context?) 

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It's a fairly short monograph by the Second Emperor on the mess he inherited on taking power, and how he fixed it. He has a terse, efficient style that is really good at swiftly conveying information in as few words as possible, but there's also a lot of background assumptions that he isn't sharing. His predecessor, the First Emperor, had been murdered along with all of his advisors by religious fanatics; the mage-storms that were an aftereffect of the Cataclysm were wreaking havoc, making even basic farming unpredictable; and the careless use of blood magic by desperate mages had not only made the storm problem worse, but aided the domination of the empire by warlords, some ex-generals, some purely bandits.

It starts with a few paragraphs on the military campaigns against the warlords, in which his campaigns were characterized by ruthless efficiency, though also by a strong preference for putting compulsions on competent enemies rather than killing them, before going on to his thirty-year career as Emperor trying to fix his problems by legislation, conquest, and direct rule.

He describes the considerations he made writing his law code (he thought that financial deterrence was more effective and efficient than physical punishment), explains why he legalized blood magic (he needed it to get the mage-power to keep the weather good so more people didn't starve - there are explicit mathematical calculations of expected value, and descriptions of how the actual numbers matched up to his predictions), why oaths of office were enforced by compulsions (the obvious reason), and why he cracked down on all churches (lots and lots and lots of cases of priests and religious organizations doing violence, along with, again, an expected utility calculation).
 
The vast majority of the work, however, is spent on month-to-month descriptions of crises, and how he handled famine after famine after army of brigands after storms washing away his only roads after barbarian raiders after rebellious generals after more famines. Most of these solutions involved either Gates, a magical technique for crossing distance very quickly, or compulsions, which seem to be about on a level with a permanent Dominate Person, at least how he's using them; all of his descriptions include what he expected would happen, what he did happen, and how he updated his methods based on that.

It ends with a note saying he was murdered six years after writing it, and is accompanied by various commentaries by later scribes, praising his wisdom, offering theories about the events, occasionally providing useful clarifications like "this wasn't a city when he was writing, just a village" or occasionally "actually, what he really meant was the precise opposite of what he said."

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It's weirdly dath ilani, for an Emperor in a world with thought less developed than Golarion's. And it's obnoxiously Good, but at least the kind of Good you want holding a fortress at your back, if not the kind of Good you want to be in the personal custody of.

 

Next.... can she see any inputs not from her immediate environs through the skylight? Birds? Stars?

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It's still only late afternoon, so no stars, just a blue sky with intermittent wispy clouds, not the kind that look inclined to rain anytime soon.

The protective magic laid on the glass makes everything beyond it slightly shimmery and unfocused. (It's possible to cast the Velgarth-style mage-techniques precisely enough to avoid this, but it's difficult and takes longer and hardly anyone bothers, especially not for something like this.) 

The clouds move in the wind, slowly. If she watches long enough, she might catch a brief glimpse of some birds flying past, quickly and high above, so that they're only visible as specks.

(Animals tend not to like being near powerful magic. The Palace radiates magic in all directions, and it's not like the roof has any appealing food that might tempt the birds to fly closer.) 

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Could be an illusion anyway, not a good source of randomness. This world probably has prophecy, anyway. What's 4,116 * 8,559. 35,228,844, the digits add to 35, eleven books remaining, that makes two. The second volume of A Grand Reckoning Of All Times And Places From the Cataclysm To Today, then. 

 

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Ketar is going to Mindspeak Ellitrea even though she's supposed to be resting because he is deeply confused about whatever their supposedly-from-another-world visitor (and he's starting to believe that more, now) is doing with her mind??? 

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A Grand Reckoning is, as you would expect, gigantic. The author, one Lokan of Olmer is extremely verbose, unwilling to use one word where sixteen will do, and peppers absolutely everything with quotes from classical texts. Fortunately, these quotes from classical texts are often written by very good author, which makes it much more reasonable, considering that he also prefers to copy sections of earlier histories into his than to restate them in his own words.

Also, despite the name, it's a history of the Eastern Empire, since apparently the author doesn't consider anything else worth writing about.

The second volume begins with the foundation of the Empire; there's horrible famines everywhere and mage-storms and the land is in chaos, but the First Emperor, descended from the great heroes of Tantara and Predain, brought Order and Civilization and Justice and all other good things in life. Fortunately, there are quotes - here's his Imperial Policy Statement about bringing Civilization and Humanity to the wastes, here's his advisor, Arved's, terse notes about what Tantara and Predain did to solve the problems they are now facing (Arved is obviously a major stylistic influence of the Second Emperor, though tragically not on Lokan).

The First Emperor manages to be even more sickeningly humane than the Second Emperor; blood magic is explicitly outlawed as making all the problems worse, and compulsions are only used on serious criminals to prevent reoffense. Lokan brings quotes from all sorts of sources to describe it - scribes in the imperial chancery taking notes of records, students at the school the First Emperor establishes for mages, the recorded testimony of 'enemies of the empire' criticizing it for conquering them - as well as memoranda from leading advisors, all tied together with reasonable competence.

The main imperial advisors in this period are Kesnas, the Emperor's top general (who, by his memoranda back home asking for more money, is constantly fighting and defeating the armies of vast tribal confederations in glorious battle, none of whom have anywhere *near* the amount of magic the Empire does, or as well trained-troops), Arved, who is largely managing the construction of infrastructure and weather-control with a whole lot of explicit predictions, and Vadan, who is in charge of diplomacy and 'internal security' and is quietly being paranoid in everything he writes, though nowhere near enough, since the Emperor and all three of his advisors are murdered by halfway through; the rest of the book talks about the civil war after his death.

(Which is very nasty; the Emperor's young son and daughter are briefly used as puppets to legitimate Kesnas's second-in-command, who calls himself Emperor until he's murdered in a mutiny; from then on there's too many sides and they're all using blood magic and the sources are very bad and mostly Lokan making sweeping generalizations, before the Second Emperor rides in on a white horse, crushes the warlords in a description sixteen times as long and about half as informative as *My Reign*, and ends the book.)

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What even is blood magic. It's written about like it's horrible but as actually described it's not some dread ritual at all,  just sacrificing people for power.

 

Maybe it damns them or something. 

 

She starts skimming, about halfway through, doing weird things with numbers in her head to decide how far to skip ahead.

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Ketar feels like it's kind of self-evident why sacrificing people for power is something you want to avoid as much as possible? Since they're people? And, like, isn't the entire point of everything to save more people? He's not sure what she means by 'damned', the concept doesn't make sense in his head, he wants advice from someone more experienced - 

 

- he's still really confused about the weird things she's doing with numbers, too, but Ellitrea snapped at him in Mindspeech that she wasn't worried and he should just keep taking notes. 

So he's doing that. They are not especially coherent notes, but he's watching her thoughts so intently and trying so hard to understand. 

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Pull a silver coin out of her bag, flip it. Queen Crown Crown Crown Queen Queen Crown. Second volume of the Court Annals of the Nine Good Emperors, opened to about halfway through.

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Whaaaaat is she doooing

Ketar is getting the feeling that this isn't just important, it's also surprising. He's being so good at taking notes. 

(He mostly hasn't really followed her mental commentary so far, but he totally read the Court Annals of the Nine Good Emperors in school, so maybe he can pull off something impressively useful for this part, not just meeting the bare minimum standard - which he's pretty sure he must be meeting. because he hasn't been yanked away and replaced by someone older and more experienced -)

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The Court Annals are not verbose, they're just dry. A year-by-year summary of everything that happened. New school founded. Gate-network expanded. Penalties for priests strengthened. Festival for birth of emperor's son. Sacrifice to spirit of past emperor. Tax revolt, tax revolt crushed, parade for successful general, investigation into causes of tax revolt, punishment of former governor. New trade mission to Iftel successful. Minor war with Sarmus, general victorious. Construction of new roads to New Ashuel...

Eventually it gets to the imperial succession; which is equally dry; Emperor Anathos III appointed one of his leading advisors, Torio, his successor; several decades years later he passed away in his sleep at the age of 230, and Torio took over apparently without a pause. It's hard to read without your eyes glazing over.

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....like someone's using hostile mind-control to make you think there's nothing important here?

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... More like it's a really boring book. The author was trying to imitate the terse style of the Second Emperor and clearly Did Not Have What It Took.

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That gets a pass, she supposes. 

 

Next she'll say the titles out loud in ...Osirian...and read the one that's alphabetically first in her guess at the Osirian spelling. The History of Mykos of Endiya.

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Ketar is still mentally trying to catch up, and being quietly confused, and....maybe slightly insulted?

He likes the Court Annals. It's a satisfying book to read. The most satisfying book he's ever read, actually. It has facts and numbers that you can check - and most of the time, although not all the time, it even tells you where to look to check that the numbers are right, and when it doesn't it explains why not.

He feels kind of sad on behalf of Carissa, even though she's a political prisoner whose mind he's reading and it's sort of ridiculous to pity her. Though he doesn't think that what he's feeling is pity, exactly. He doesn't have a word for it. 

He keeps taking very detailed notes. 

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It's more recent than any of the others!

It starts off with Mykos describing himself, is a provincial scholar born in a secondary city of no more than journeyman ability who flunked the examination for the imperial civil service and turned to history as a consolation, but his book is lively, well-written, and casually racist; he considers anyone not Jaconan (from his writing, the dominant ethnicity of the empire) obviously inferior, and the Imperial City the place to be. His history is following the reigns of Cesion III and Bastran IV, the latter of whom is Emperor while he writes.

The early pages include a description of the early parts of Cesion's reign; he's depicted as good-hearted, witty, but rather inclined to let his advisors bully him; Mykos is laughingly cynical about the motives of some of them and the ways they get around their imperial compulsions and Thoughtsensing to try to benefit their families and their home towns, and Cesion is really not inclined to punish them, even though he's a much stronger mage than they are and Emperor to boot. He's extremely negative on one of Cesion's last emperor's chief advisors, though, a man named Shakari; by his description, n ambitious dark-skinned foreigner full of cunning plots, an enemy of both the nobility (the backbone of the empire!) and of the civil service (we do everything!), critical of the Great Founders, and eager to amass power. He's eventually Gate-struck while out traveling; the heartbroken Cesion, who had relied on his advice, carried out a full investigation and never found the culprit.

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Jaconans are the best, got it. What identifying traits do they have, or is it like Chelish people from Corentyn and Chelish people from Kintargo where you can just tell even though you couldn't put it in words? Should she make herself an item of persistent Alter Self so she can be Jaconan?

Imperial compulsions, Empire has all the nobility under geases, how reasonable. The nobility just schemes to - benefit their hometowns? Seriously? Probably it's just an indirect way of saying 'amass independent power bases and/or live in luxury with your many slaves'?

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....Wow. This continues to be the most uncomfortable assignment of Ketar's (short) life!

He's pretty sure that it's not hard to tell who is or isn't ethnically native to the Empire? Not that this would tend to matter to anyone who isn't stupid, though apparently some important historical authors were stupid in that way -

- though in fact their visitor is kind of borderline, in terms of whether she looks native? Her hair and skin are the right color, Ketar thinks, but her features are - exotic. Not in a bad way, necessarily....

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Mykos also chronicles some military campaigns (the Imperial Legions are implicitly a similar model to the Chelish army - wizards throwing fireballs, squares of pikemen, crossbowmen firing from the edges of the squares ready to dive in, lancers ready to charge if the squares break, albeit with much more use of Gates for logistics, without devils, and with much slower healing) and the various clever tricks used by generals to win wars, as reported by various soldiers he interviewed over drinks.

All the enemies chronicled are tremendously militarily inferior, barring a few rebellious provinces brought back under submission, which are slightly militarily inferior, but Mykos manages to keep the tale exciting anyway by talking about all the expansive mountains they crossed and the invincible fortresses they besieged and the tremendous difficulties they had getting any supplies in harsh and distant lands. One of the chapters is about the construction of a grand library in the capital, which is pretty clearly a major endeavor, and is basically the only thing Shakari organized that he'll admit to approving of, as well as various industrial plans organized by the civil service for digging new canals and founding new cities in conquered territory; at one point he submits a suggestion for a canal-construction project, which he includes in the history even though it didn't get accepted, along with a point-by-point comparison to the successful plan. (He cheerfully admits that what did get through was much cleverer than what he proposed.)

A number of the emperor's leading ministers are mentioned; one of them is Altarrin, son of the Duke of Kavar and graduate of the Hall of Learning, who passes the civil service examination with the highest possible marks, becomes a leading minister at a very young age, becomes a leading general at a very young age, and ends up winning a lot of wars. He's an extremely gifted military organizer, very ruthless, very efficient, takes essentially all the mages he's fighting prisoner to draft them into the factories and sets up extensive infrastructure before he comes home to becoming a leading light of politics. When Cesion died, Altarrin's extraordinary wisdom was vital to the selection of Count Bastran as his successor, who now rules as the wisest, most just, most benevolent, et cetera emperor in Imperial history.

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.....yeah seems unlikely that she dropped on the guy by random accident out of all possible places in the world to land. 

 

The book might be flattering him falsely, of course, but 'wise', 'ruthless', and 'efficient' are all desirable traits in someone who is holding you prisoner.

 

He can protect her. She can deliver on the project and figure out how to turn out a headband a day and help the Empire crush its enemies by even larger margins and expect to not die. That's all you can really ask for - more than you can really ask for. That's the answer she was looking for. 

but is it a sex thing or not though.

she's not pathetic she'll be fine she just wants to know out of curiosity

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...Is what a sex thing? How can Altarrin's ruthlessness or efficiency possibly be a sex thing??

Ketar is even more sure now that he's missing some sort of context. (Not just on the current situation; he's also suddenly confused about what categories of skill are or aren't about sex.)

Though obviously it's true that Altarrin can keep someone safe, if he wants to. And presumably he does want to keep this woman safe? 

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She'll read the rest of the books, at this point, with no further effort at unpredictibility.

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The first volume of A Grand Reckoning is like the second, in that it is extremely verbose and likes quoting primary sources. It has a lot fewer of them for the subject of the first volume, though, which is the Cataclysm through to the founding of the Eastern Empire.

The book begins with an introduction - a description of a tremendously wonderful and prosperous empire, full of magic, triumphant in war, industrious in peace, advancing every art; in it, you can go out your door and see wizards, artisans, engineers, slaves from every part of the world, all just outside your door. And it is here, the world we live in, today. (He is, yes, implicitly assuming you live in the Imperial City.)

How, he asks, did we get here? To tell this tale is (he eventually admits) his objective - beginning with the Catalcysm. Two ancient and powerful civilizations (Tantara and Predain) battled, both wielding magic of overwhelming power; this power grew beyond their control, unleashing a devastating cataclysm that blasted civilization from the world, leaving only desolation, wild monsters, and horrifyingly destructive weather that wiped out all attempts to rebuild.

In one particular part, though, there was an attempt that wasn't destroyed. A number of soldiers - including wizards - from the warring countries had been stranded there, and with their knowledge of advanced civilization and powerful magic, they could protect the ruined countryside and gently guide the people around them into better ways. They instituted many imperial systems, including the equal-field system, the working of iron, and the use of compulsions to prevent crime, all of which were necessary because they were constantly being attacked by monsters and overrun by famine and mage-storms. For generations, they struggled patiently to preserve all that they could, and build a world of order, justice and learning.

Reading between the lines, he has no idea what was going on and is backdating everything he can think of. He says "surely it must have been" a lot, and has almost no primary source quotes until he gets to the actual founding of the empire, where we run into the same crew that appeared in the second volume, who are working enthusiastically on building a functional civilization. ("Empire," as they are using it, pretty clearly means "the area we have power," and "emperor," "the guy with the power to make decisions," whatever the word translates to in Taldane.)

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Carissa isn't thinking very much. The Empire seems like a good place, a place that makes sense, but not exactly the kind of place where you should think, which is dangerous at the best of times. But she remembers the names and dates and approximate shape of things, and she is glad to be in the Imperial City and not in a wasteland full of warlords, and glad to have guards outside her door. 

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It's going to bother Altarrin that Carissa doesn't feel safe having thoughts. Ketar is confused about a lot of things, right now, but - he's pretty sure that people feeling allowed to think is important, critical, for having a functional Empire?

And he's never felt like it wasn't safe to think, here. Though maybe that's partly because of his Gift - he's the person who reads other people's minds, and he knows how to shield, so even when other Thoughtsensers read him, he can tell when they're doing it... 

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The Personal Record wishes to begin by explaining that it is not written to excite the prurient interest, but to explain the unfortunate and tragic history of how the Empire has declined from its golden years; the historian begs you to understand that he puts his pen to the page with a heavy heart, knowing that you would rather not hear these tragic events, but nonetheless it is better that some record remains.

Then it goes straight to the tabloid gossip. It starts off with Emperor Almer III, wise and just, chosen successor of the great Emperor Siman II (“The Stargazer”), who everyone knows was the finest of emperors. Almer was wise, gifted, a wonderful ruler; the Personal Record quotes a lot of witty quips and clever solutions to impossibly knotted problems, most of which depend on the implicit fact that he had everyone in the palace mind controlled. He spent long hours working on infrastructure and construction and overseeing the integration of regions his predecessor had conquered. 

Uuuunfortunately he married a beautiful young woman of high and noble birth forty years younger than he was, and she was not happy with the arrangement, especially since he stayed up so late every night instead of paying her any attention. The only man he trusted near him without compulsions was his barber, a former soldier who’d been his bodyguard for years, now ‘promoted’ to shaving the imperial chin. She seduced the barber (the author quotes just enough rumors about what they got up to in bed to make the reader curious before ‘saying no more’), and cut his master’s throat and ruled as Emperor for the empress’s clique for three hours, nine minutes before one of the Imperial wizards fireballed him and took over. Since the wizard in question had no claim to the throne, he lasted only thirteen seconds, himself. The war of wizards took the palace with it, and there was nine days of anarchy, which was how long it took for the first general to arrive with an army loyal to anything other than compulsions.

He declared his intention of restoring order, but since he had three sons and nine daughters and had never refused any of them anything, he didn’t last long; he left his family in charge when he went off to war, and their reign of terror is described in gratuitous detail. Fortunately for the Imperial City, he never came back, and from then on sex scandals alternate with massacres with poisonings, all without taking a breath, for page after page after page. Finally it ends a few years before the start of Mykos's chronicle - with an archmage-general finally, finally restoring order, and Cesion (Emperor when Mykos begins writing) as one of his leading ministers, “and our tragic tale, the like of which we may never see again in history, coming to a close.”

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What the fuck!!!

 

 

Actually she doesn't know that Abrogail's takeover wasn't that messy and embarrassing; just, if it was, Abrogail would never permit anyone to write a book about it. 

 

It does seem like a potential failure mode of the apparently-effortless geases they employ across the board here; no one has any reason for loyalty but a spell, and if the spell's gone, they've had no space to sort into their natural factions. Or maybe it's just the inherent, unfixable state of Imperial courts. The Emperor should have compulsioned his barber, obviously, but more importantly his wife. 

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Huh. Somehow Ketar never thought of it that way before, even though now that it's been flagged to his attention at all, of course it's reasonable of Carissa to be alarmed and unimpressed about that time period. 

They learned about it in school, of course, but it's occurring to him now that he doesn't really understand why it happened. Things were fine before? And things are, again, back to being fine afterward? It almost reads as though everyone in the capital went inexplicably insane for a few decades?? 

Abrogail is - the monarch of Carissa's home country, in the other world? Ketar is of course going to write down anything he's able to pick up about her, even though it's been candlemarks now and he can feel the beginnings of a reaction-headache. 

Altarrin's closest allies aren't compulsioned, he thinks – at least, not to be loyal to Altarrin, they have the usual suite of compulsions not to sabotage the Emperor. He thinks it's on purpose, though now that he's thinking to ask himself why, he's actually kind of confused too. Everyone knows that Altarrin is relentlessly paranoid and careful.

But he does think that quite a lot of people have reasons to be loyal to Altarrin even without compulsions. Because Altarrin keeps his allies safe, and is pretty competent at it. 

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The Chronicles of Foundation is a history of the first five reigns, by the Fifth Emperor’s court historian, Sorthos. His main interest is in painting the first three emperors as extremely wise and good rulers; he’s trying to imitate the same terse style as Arvad and the Second Emperor (and, by the people he quotes, something like it has become the standard court style for writing in his period), and he largely agrees with A Grand Reckoning and My Reign as to the events; he isn’t putting explicit expected value estimates on them the way My Reign is, but he’s at least including statistics, ideally to make the Emperors look good.

After writing My Reign, the Second Emperor did extensive research into life-extension, he did not, however, get the chance to use them before being dying “in a spell-research accident.” Assassins were, of course, suspected, though not by agents of the Third Emperor, who largely kept his predecessor’s policies and advisors. Throughout the book, Sorthos traces the careers of a number of the Third Emperor’s ministers; the most common fate for them is death, mostly at the hands of religious fanatics or unknown assassins, but one does die to a bridge breaking under him. All, of course, are honest, loyal and incorruptible, until their tragic deaths.

The Third Emperor reigned for 70 (some sources say 90) years, which were of peaceful, successful expansion. Famines went down, roads were built, and the Imperial City, Jacona collected a university and dozens of specialist craft guilds. Spells were developed to make land scarred by the Cataclysm habitable, permanent Gate-networks were expanded, and his reign is remembered as a golden age.

Unlike the Fourth Emperor’s. The Fourth Emperor was worried that the line of Good Emperors would break, and (says Sorthos) caused the catastrophe he sought to avert; his writings survive, in the same dry cost/benefit analysis style as the Second’s, and he thought that the risk of someone failing to select a good successor who could select a good successor were just too high to continue risking.

So he decided to have all the people of Jacona elect an Emperor to rule them. The politicking around it was horrible, the leading candidates died in implausible accidents, and the fourth-runner ruled as an utterly incompetent ‘People’s Emperor’ for four years of bad decisions before civil war broke out, Jacona was in flames, and the Gate-network was destroyed.

The Fifth Emperor was the one who sorted the mess out, ruled for a hundred and twenty years, established schools in every town in the empire, and conquered a few small, badly-run kingdoms that were significant enough to be more than bandit tribes; Sorthos admits that starting wars is theoretically bad, explains why it was the right thing to do (the kingdoms were really very badly-run; he has Second-Emperor style statistics), and then explains how they developed into excellent provinces of the Empire that are happy and never have any rebellions.

The Fifth Emperor also commissioned this history of the foundation; now that all the crises are over, unwise experiments are concluded, and the Empire is set on a path of science, industry, and expansion, we know exactly what we should be doing and can continue doing it for the rest of history. Hurrah for the Empire!

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That is a terrifying track record of assassinations that everyone isn't even willing to admit are assassinations and Carissa is terrified. She will just have to try incredibly hard to not be worth assassinating. 

 

Of course the Empire is expanding; you're either gaining new land to assign new nobles to, or all your society's pent-up scheming for power will be directed purely internally. And war is the only real test of a people, anyway. She is fine with helping the Empire expand and conquer. She does vaguely wonder how they stamp out religion; obviously you can execute all the priests and burn all the temples, but from there it sounds hard.

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...He hadn't thought of it that way before, either, but on reflection it is terrifying. The number of 'accidents' recorded earlier in the history of the Empire is implausible and suspicious, and - he learned about them in school, in a number of cases it's not clear to him how it could have been done by an assassin. Or why. It's not as though anyone or any faction particularly benefitted from the various fatal ends that befell so many of the Third Emperor's ministers.  

Carissa...seems to be better at thinking through these sorts of problem than he is, whether because she's older and wiser, or because she has magic to make her smarter, or just because her world taught her more. But her analysis fits together, in a way that his own muddled thoughts about history never have. 

He is starting to see why Altarrin thinks this woman is so important. At this point, he's badly hoping that Altarrin will actually come talk to him soon, so he can try to explain everything while it's still fresh in his mind. 

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Altarrin is working. 

There's a lot to do. The south is having problems with their most recent conquest. Altarrin is fairly sure that, ultimately, this is mostly due to insufficient causal separation from regions under the control of gods, which is a nearly-inevitable consequence of expanding in that direction, but centuries of data have shown that the Empire ends up less stable when it's not expanding - it seems to result in all the scheming and power-seeking energy being turned inward, accelerating the process whereby the Empire's institutions start eating themselves from the inside out. And they do, in fact, need the land, or will in the future, if only for its natural resources. 

The proximate cause is that the commander in charge, General Isktar - while very competent, he was promoted during Altarrin's time - turns out to be unfortunately vulnerable to manipulation from certain directions. Altarrin is still trying to pin down who has been manipulating him into a series of out-of-character questionable decisions, while also doing as much damage control as he can while he's five hundred miles away and has to avoid tipping his hand. It's probably not going to be a disaster either way, there are fortunately some hard limits on how far Isktar can be pushed, but some unfortunate precedents are being set, and it's a pattern Altarrin recognizes. One he can extrapolate ahead for a century or two, and that's how you end up falling into some of the worst attractors of the Empire's history... 

 

The northeast is having different problems, which he assumes are mostly related to their attempts at trade with Iftel, but Vkandis has gotten subtler over recent centuries and so far he's not sure what path Vkandis is actually nudging; it doesn't involve starting underground religious cults, at least. The most obvious problem is that several Barons have been embezzling tax money at a rate much higher than chance, and that shouldn't be in their incentives, which means he's still missing part of the picture - 

His mind keeps going back to Carissa. It would be really useful right now to have her mental-augmentation spell; he's pretty sure that even a few minutes would be long enough to untangle some of this. 

Altarrin sends some new orders that should help with harm-reduction while still being unsuspicious to all of the many, many political actors spying on his actions constantly. He arranges to send some much more secure orders to his spies, which will unfortunately have a much longer delay, that's the price of security and obscurity. 

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And then it's time to take a few mental steps back, and think about Carissa, and how this new information ought to factor into his model of the world, and thus change his plans. 

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Right now, he mostly has a very long list of facts that he's confident Carissa genuinely believes. They aren't really fitting together, yet, and he's not sure if it's because there are other key pieces he's still missing, or because Carissa was lied to and some of her beliefs are false, or what. 

Start with what he knows. He has notes to review but they aren't very organized - his mind wasn't very organized at the time - and they're badly in need of work. 

Carissa's background, before the part where everything gets more complicated and implausible:

- She is from another world, one with substantially different magic. He's missing a lot of details and context, but it's already clear that her world's magic has both advantages and disadvantages, relative to Velgarth mage-work. 

- Its key disadvantages: are among the reasons they were able to subdue her at all. Though some, perhaps most, of that is because of her expectations, her home country is one where she expects any sign of resistance to be crushed, and where she assumes her mind will be read - but she didn't notice opportunities to escape, and she was, sort of, looking.

- Its key advantages include the intelligence enhancement, which changes everything in itself; the context-independent language translation; it also seems to be easier to do planar manipulations at least in certain well-delineated ways, like her bag; the Ring of Sustenance is both amazing in itself, and hints at how deeply different the entire ontology of her world's magic must be. 

- She is unusually talented even for her world at creating mage-artifacts. 

- She seems to be quite traumatized, in a way that's both familiar and...not. There are a lot of things she flinches away from thinking or talking about, even when she's clearly trying very hard to be cooperative. 

- Her world has gods. The gods are unexpectedly legible-to-humans, or - try harder to interact, or something - and they also vary more broadly. 

- Her world's gods run afterlives, that (for the most part) hold onto much, much more of the existence of dead mortal souls than even his most optimistic cases for Velgarth. Though not always under the conditions those mortal souls would prefer. 

- Her world has 'alignment' categories that are apparently somehow fundamental to its metaphysics, and don't entirely make sense but...make more sense than he would expect god-concepts to, for mortals. 

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- She is planning to overthrow Asmodeus, the god of tyranny and slavery and compacts and maybe also torture, who rules her home country and also the afterlife plane they call Hell. 

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That's jumping ahead, though, because Altarrin is pretty sure it has to do with Keltham. 

 

Keltham. Who came from a third world. One with no (known) gods - and it doesn't feel right to them that their past-hiding conspiracy is hiding gods, either, though he doesn't yet have a clear explicit verbal explanation for why not - 

(His thoughts are much more scattered, here. Which makes sense, all he knows about the world of dath ilan is at two removes and Carissa is clearly traumatized in some ways specifically related to Keltham.) 

Keltham's world has advanced technology. They're doing heredity-optimization on purpose, aimed toward - at least in Carissa's conception of things - getting more people to be "Lawful" "Good" (Altarrin suspects this is missing a lot) and he's not sure if she said this explicitly but they're presumably optimizing toward intelligence as well, that would explain everyone being very smart. They're wealthy. Their civilization is very well coordinated. They are led by an elite class that calls themselves 'Keepers' and know special mental techniques for reasoning, and other secrets. 

...She thinks Keltham was working toward destroying her world. For reasons that, according to Carissa's knowledge and beliefs at least, flow naturally from how dath ilan reasons about living in a larger multiverse. 

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He's confused about Keltham, and dath ilan. It's going to be rather difficult to address that productively if and until he can put together a research program to get access to Golarion.

(Altarrin is not even going to try to get access to dath ilan directly, not until he knows much more. He's not taking any of Carissa's assumptions here at face value, but if she's right, then his own world is one of the uglier corners of the multiverse, and one that's hard to fix - he's certainly tried hard enough, for long enough - and dath ilan's ethical philosophy might prefer to just remove it from existence.) 

He's confused about Carissa, and this is much more productive, because it's something he might actually be able to make progress on. By talking to her. Not that this will be easy, since she (quite reasonably) doesn't trust him, and assumes her mind is being read (which it is) and that any sign of disobedience or rebelliousness or generally being difficult will end badly for her - and since she doesn't know what would count, here, she's playing it safe. 

 

 

 

...He suddenly feels very tired. However promising it is for a different, maybe better, future, this is another complication, and he's spent so long tidying up one relentless complication after another, and handling this one safely is going to be inconvenient and costly. He has to make sure that none of his enemies in the Palace have any reason to be suspicious of Carissa.

Some of them have Thoughtsensers too, and Carissa is shockingly (appallingly?) good at not thinking the "wrong" thoughts, when she knows or suspects she's being observed, but she doesn't know which thoughts would stand out here. Altarrin isn't sure she knows how to responsibly handle a world with gods more hostile and more alien than the ones she knows, either, but - 

- but that's less urgent, right, they're in the capital of the most powerful and least god-contaminated Empire on the planet - 

- and she did, in fact, end up deciding that she needed to personally oppose the god of Hell. 

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Hopefully she's been actually reading the history texts they provided for her, and that will help her orient. He needs to talk to her, though, ideally under conditions where she feels safe thinking. Almost certainly she can make contributions here far more valuable than just crafting magical artifacts for them, but at the very least he wants her to be safe enough to do that, for long enough for it to matter, and he's not nearly as confident as he would prefer that he can unilaterally keep her safe from his many, many enemies. 

(And he does, still, want to ask her to cast her mental-enhancement spell on him.) 

Well, he does in fact have a process for situations like this one. 

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It's evening by the time anyone interrupts Carissa, other than a servant bringing her lunch. 

It's one of Altarrin's mage-guards, again. She isn't actually sure if their visitor/guest/prisoner from another world actually has a translation spell up right now, but she knocks and then enters without actually waiting for Carissa's response.

"Altarrin wants to see you, if now is a good time. He wanted you to have these clothes," an elaborate formal gown, of pretty much the highest quality you can actually get in the Empire even now, "and I am to escort you to the bathhouse." 

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....Well, that's unexpected and he's really not sure what Altarrin is plotting here, but if she doesn't have a translation spell up or cast one, then Ketar can probably relay? Though he's going to wait a bit to see if it's necessary before drawing any attention to himself. 

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That is not unexpected, and she is not confused. 

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She is going to be fine. But this is not a situation that calls for a prideful and dangerous and ilani-influenced Carissa who people in the palace in Egorian nervously bow to, who could realistically plan to go sell her soul to Dispater for 30 Wishes and some headbands, who was cultivating around her an aura of something-out-of-legend. This is a situation that calls for a younger, smaller, more careful Carissa, whose file notes that she is almost never a heretic even in her thoughts, who looks and feels and is safe to hurt and safe to turn your back on.

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She has Comprehend Languages up, but not Tongues. She decides that's probably ideal; if she doesn't speak, she can't say anything wrong. She bows her head and stands to follow the guard.

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...Good? 

Actually, NOT good, actually this is kind of horrifying and surely Altarrin doesn't intend for her to be feeling this way, and if he does then–

(Ketar at this point runs into some of his own compulsions, and stops thinking in that direction.) 

He could try to reassure her, but actually it seems more useful to dash ahead and try to pass some kind of vaguely useful report to Altarrin before he meets with Carissa. 

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(Apparently he needs to start keeping a much closer eye on this particular junior Thoughtsenser?) 

Altarrin thanks him absently for the report. It adds new emotional flavor but does not really add new information

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The mage-guard seems unbothered by Carissa's lack of verbal response, and just escorts her out of the room (with a cadre of other guards taking formation around her) to a rather nicely-appointed bathhouse. There are fancy soaps, and perfumes and oil for her hair, and servants to help her dress and do her hair afterward. 

 

(They're not reading her mind for most of it, just for the last couple of minutes, once Ellitrea is back from taking a nap, and then while she's being escorted back down another set of hallways to Altarrin's suite and formal dining room.) 

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Carissa is very cooperative. Her thoughts are that she is safe safe safe safe Altarrin has no reason to kill her safe safe safe safe. She does not even contemplate escape; that's for if she thinks she's in danger. It is objectively pathetic and contemptible to risk your life over anything that isn't itself a risk to your life.

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Altarrin very badly wishes that he were as absolutely trustworthy to keep her safe as - the person she (is almost-deliberately pretending that) she thinks he is. 

Her life is almost certainly not in danger right now, at least, because he's taken relevant precautions.

It's going to be much harder to keep her safe while also making full use of her spellcraft abilities for the good of the Empire. Though it...would be basically fine, actually, with the sort of thoughts she's currently allowing herself to think, most of them about just how harmless she is... 

He wants more than that, though. This woman from another world isn't just someone with alien magic. Or even just unusually talented at crafting powerful magical artifacts of which Velgarth has never seen the like. She's the person who met Keltham of dath ilan - and Altarrin is fairly sure, at this point, that that wasn't at random - and she's the person who, with that influence, decided to personally fight the god of Hell. 

So he has to talk to her. In a context where she feels allowed to have thoughts at all. Which would already have been hard, and - seems maybe even harder, given the assumptions she is apparently making based on the particular deception he's running here. 

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A couple of minutes after Carissa is escorted in and offered a seat, Altarrin walks in to join her. He's smiling. 

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She's smiling too! It's a very convincing smile. She looks, for all the world, relaxed and at ease and perfectly happy (and very pretty). She's cast Tongues on herself; with Glibness, she can probably make sure she doesn't say anything dangerous, and it's good to retain the option of being able to communicate if you're in some weird situation that requires it. 

 

She thinks there's lots of inferences to be stored in the expressions of her guards as they brought her here, the servants who helped her get ready, the make of the dress, but she's not making them; all the world's entangled, and there aren't safe inferences, aren't any that don't reveal everything once you start following them. The only inferences that are worth that risk are those about the Archmage-General. Ruthless, patient, clever. The sort of person who'd do well in Cheliax. She's valuable to him; he won't break her on purpose unprovoked, and she ought to be competent both to not provoke him and to make sure he doesn't break her by accident either. 

 

"My lord," she says, and nothing else; no one's been irritated with her for silence yet.

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He's still getting everything Ellitrea can pick up relayed to him. It's distracting, but at this point his full attention is on this room and Carissa; he can handle it. He has some notes in his pocket on topics to come back to later, if he ends up losing track, but he doesn't think he will. 

Altarrin pulls out a chair at the dining table, opposite her, and sits down. Tries to look as harmless as he can manage (which he is not, in fact, very good at.) 

He ducks his head. "Call me Altarrin, please." And let her make whatever inferences she's inclined to make (or inclined to not allow herself to make which is even worse) from that. "I am curious how our Palace compares to the places you have seen, in your world?" 

It's a somewhat confrontational question given Carissa's current frame. Altarrin is aware of that, and doing it on purpose. 

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Does he want her to be naive? To be competent? To be a challenge? How to straddle those...

"In Golarion, my lord, I was a support wizard for Her Majesty's Eleventh battalion at the Worldwound, a crack in the fabric of our universe where enemies pour forth from the Abyss. It was important work, and I was honored to serve my nation, but there is little of luxury there. I had occasion briefly, in my service on the spellsilver refining project, to visit our capital, and it is a beautiful place, but one whose workings are a mystery to me; I like to think myself a quick learner, but a royal court is not a permissive place for learning by experimentation. Your palace is as beautiful, and more mysterious."

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(She is clearly not being fully open, but Ellitrea's relayed Thoughtsensing report is actually making it more confusing rather than less. That is enough for now, he thinks back at his Thoughtsenser, loudly, thank you.) 

And then - what to actually say, in answer? 

 

"I am definitely glad that our world has no problems so ongoingly alarming as the Worldwound! I would assume our Palace is more mysterious, since it is in an entirely new world! ...Though I think there are many ways to learn other than direct experiments, which might be unsafe. I believe you, that you are a quick learner."

Smile. He tries to make it reassuring, even though Carissa is hardly going to be reassured much if he succeeds. 

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All right, possible explanations: the place isn't actually Lawful Evil, and he feels like he needs to make this unambiguously a quid pro quo of some kind. It's not the Asmodean way to do this; the Asmodean thing to do is exactly how he pleases and if Carissa's able to play for anything she wants from there, good for her, and if not, bad for her. But she can imagine how a place would end up as terrifyingly full of assassins and intrigues as this one and still have some vestigal Neutrality. 

She's of course not going to tell him if he's doing it wrong; if she can leverage this into getting something, great. 

Separate possible explanation, not incompatible with the first: he likes his girls apparently willing and most people don't have the Bluff to fake it. Do compulsions not work well for that? Charm Person does just fine for most people, is Carissa's understanding, though she personally always had a rule that if she found herself liking or trusting a man she should pretend, indignant, to have made her Will save, and walk away....

Third possible explanation, he's toying with her, in which case she probably wins more points by seeing through it. Damnit, she doesn't want to be ilani here where it's not safe but it's harder if you aren't thinking to make decisions clearly, and that's the mistake she was making all along, right -

 

Fine. What percentage of people like their girls apparently willing? She has no idea, say it's half, that's not off by a factor of 10. What percentage of people like toying with their prisoners? ...say half again? This is hard to do in a culture you've never come into contact with before. Has she observed anything that's more likely in one world than in the other? The bath points towards 'toying with her', she thinks, maybe 2:1. Something about his expression feels like he's not toying with her; how likely is it he can bluff her? Probably 10:1 that he can; he's an important figure in an imperial palace. 


Collect more information, Carissa; when you don't understand reality go out and look at it. 

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"Perhaps you could help me find my footing here."

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Altarrin would really prefer not to be toying with her. He...admits that he is, arguably, toying with her, but he has to, for the benefit of their unseen audience - so that, by the time he leads her to his bedroom (shielded against scrying and everything else, including things that no one else alive knows how to shield against), certain assumptions will already be well-established... 

 

(He's very tired. He would really prefer it if this didn't take so long.) 

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Servants come in and serve food and wine. 

(Ellitrea hovers out of sight and reads Carissa's mind.) 

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"I am certainly hoping that I can help you find your footing! To start, I noticed when I was examining your 'Bag of Holding' -" 

 

And he's off on a detailed explanation of planar mechanics, which he's not delighted about various spies overhearing, but it's a neutral-enough topic, not suspicious for him to be discussing, and hopefully it should keep the conversation going for a while. 

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Okay she has absolutely no idea what that's pointing to!! Who toys with people or flirts with them by talking about planar mechanics?

 

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More data. If she's going through her wine very quickly while they talk does that seem positive or negative.

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Well, it's not like he had initial intentions to push in one direction or another. It might be a little inconvenient if, by the time he can pull her off to his absurdly-well-shielded room, she's too drunk to have sensible thoughts at him and he has to wait, but at the same time it's probably making a better showing for their unseen eavesdroppers... 

(And it is, in fact, well established in the eyes of the unseen observers that Archmage-General Altarrin, who likes to invite his female political prisoners for dinner in his quarters, also prefers to flirt with them by bragging about his extensive knowledge of magic, which is what this should look like from the outside...) 

He keeps talking, occasionally giving her encouraging glances in case she has questions, and when the main course is being cleared away for dessert he slides her chair closer to hers, and refills his wineglass along with hers. 

He hates this that is not the point of anything, right now. 

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:Is everything all right?: Ellitrea asks him. 

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Not really, no. For so many reasons, but this current situation is among them. 

Yes. 

I would appreciate if you tell the servants to hurry this up. 

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Dessert can be hurried along. 

The servants also apparently interpret this as including "refill both of their wineglasses faster". 

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Carissa doesn't, actually, want to be too drunk to do any steering. She's not that scared - Abrogail Thrune wouldn't toy with someone like this, and she thinks anyone who would toy with you like this also won't hurt you as much as Abrogail Thrune likes to - but it's a bad idea to be in a position where she can't maneuver at all.

Maybe he can just assume she's a bit of a lightweight. She will flop cooperatively on him when he scoots closer. "'s a very good dinner. I suppose you're so important to the Empire! I'm so glad that I landed on you."

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"I am pleased to hear you like it! I, too, am glad that you landed on me. I think you will be so valuable - and you are so very impressive in other ways, as well -" 

Which is not false and also he is mostly only saying it out loud for the stupid unseen audience. 

This is if anything his fault - he was among the first people involved in the now-longstanding tradition of "scrying your enemies constantly", and the counters and counter-counters involved (so much effort wasted on the Empire's mages learning better scrying or communication-spell techniques, and better shields against the better versions, ad infinitum) - except he's not, in the end, sure how wasted it was after all, because it seems to have mattered a lot that the Empire is so much more powerful and competent and prepared than all of the other powers other than the gods around them. 

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Even before Ellitrea's relayed commentary he already suspected that she was less tipsy than she appears on purpose. But he's still inclined to hurry them along toward his bedroom as soon as he can manage it gracefully. 

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And the door closes behind them. 

(Carissa will be able to tell, with her permanent Detect Magic, that the shielding on this room is incredibly, absurdly thorough, even compared to everything she's seen in the Palace so far.) 

 

Altarrin keeps holding on to her, in case she's actually unsteady on her feet, but he holds perfectly still and waits. 

(He doesn't have a Thoughtsenser to relay anymore, of course. He'll cope without it.) 

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Okay in Cheliax literally no one would ever expect you to fall for flattery that obvious. That's not even straightforward romance, that's, like, twelve-year-old romance. There's got to be a deeper game. 

She hopes there's a deeper game, sleeping with someone this tediously straightforward is going to be really boring and injures her pride far more than just being taken by a powerful man who doesn't care all that much about his prisoners.

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"My lord?" she says quietly, once the door's shut.

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"Nobody is going to overhear us, here." His voice is suddenly very different - calm, flat, implacable. "You can - you should, probably - look at the shielding for yourself, to verify this."

 

"Once you are more sure of it, I do think that we need to talk." 

Pause. 

"...If you are in fact not sober enough for this, yet, and need some time, I apologize greatly for the show I needed to put on, and I can wait. And bring you water, if you wish." 

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Oh thank god there is a game. She should prefer her life be uncomplicated but, it turns out, she doesn't. 

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"I'm not that drunk. Who was watching?"

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"I am not sure who exactly - I could give you a list of the top ten powerful nobles or other political figures who I am aware have tame mages and are likely to be watching me, but I am not sure which of them would have anyone watching - I have tried very hard to keep recent events as non-suspicious as possible - and also it is unlikely the names would mean anything to you." 

...He's going to walk her over to his bed and sit down, if only because it's late and he's had only a couple of short naps in the last 36 candlemarks and he's tired

"....I am actually very curious what you think of the histories we brought you. Though - if you are not going to be comfortable having original thoughts until you have checked the thoroughness of my shields, please do that first." 

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She's not going to be comfortable even then! Probably it's unwise to say that. 

 

 

She'll examine the shields as commanded.

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Altarrin suddenly has much less information on what she's thinking, due to his deeply inconvenient lack of the Mindspeech Gift in this body, and the separately inconvenient fact that he almost certainly cannot hide a Thoughtsenser behind an illusion without her magic-senses detecting it. 

He waits. 

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The shields are very pretty. Carissa was told to admire them so she'll do it. 

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The shields are so so so thorough and complex and detailed! They continue to look much more like Outsider-style magic than arcane (or divine) spells. But these ones in particular are very very heavily reinforced; the total power level here is substantially more than just a Forbiddance, if not quite exceeding the power of a 9th-circle spell. 

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Right, she was supposed to be giving him opinions. And probably at this point he in fact wants signs she's smart. "The histories were interesting. Cheliax is structured differently. I don't think our succession wars are as ugly but we don't allow the publication of histories unflattering to the current monarch so if they were I might not know. I think your magic system allows for longer-lasting and more precise control of people. It's interesting that doesn't just make everything much better. I - suspect some people I know would say that it enforces an unnatural hierarchy, one not borne out by native ability and determination, and that's why it explodes as it does. I'm not sure if they're right. I genuinely wasn't involved in politics, at home."

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Well. 

Altarrin is trying to hold himself so he looks calm and unthreatening and friendly and also definitely not sexually interested in Carissa right now, which is - actually a fairly difficult mix of signals to be trying to send, especially when he is sitting on his bed right next to her under dimmed mage-lights. 

(The last thing is fixable. He thinks a command at them and they brighten, not quite to a daylight-level.) 

 

 

There are still multiple other reasons why this is complicated to handle right just on an interpersonal level, which in Altarrin's opinion is still the most irritating kind of problem-complexity, if not the most difficult to solve.

 

"....I should probably acknowledge to you explicitly, at this point, that agents loyal to me - mostly loyal to me, at the very least not disloyal - have been reading your thoughts for as much of the last day as we could manage. 

"I am not reading your thoughts now, since I lack that Gift - not that I expect you to believe me on that front, until I have done more to establish why you ought trust me when I give my word - 

 

"- Anyway. I - we - know more than you have said out loud about how Cheliax is structured differently. I - have on many occasions wished I could tell you that the Empire is - more functional, and makes better use of its people. I am not sure it does, though - of course it makes an enormous difference that our world does not have known or legible afterlives..." 

I suspect some people I know would say that it enforces an unnatural hierarchy, one not borne out by native ability and determination

Altarrin is pretty sure he knows exactly who she means, and he's not exactly predisposed to agree, but he isn't going to bring that up yet. 

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Instead he holds himself very still and very calm and waits for her response. Out loud, since he doesn't have access to a Thoughtsenser. 

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" - sorry, you don't have known afterlives? - like - what happens if you - scry dead people -"

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Did this really not manage to come up as an obvious inference from their earlier conversations - or from any of the books she read...

Obviously not. 

"Nothing. ...I mean, we do not have the exact-equivalent spell that your world does, but -" 

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"- but I have been noting for some time that I think your gods are - at least engaging with mortals in more legible ways, even if some of those ways are undesirable. ....My current best understanding is that souls are not permanently destroyed, in our world, when a mortal dies, but - by default they end up in a place where they likely do not have ongoing experiences. It is possible that some of them are reincarnated into new bodies, but if so they retain sufficiently few of their memories that it is not self-evident." 

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"I am so sorry. I - don't actually know how to fix it - I - I don't think it's impossible, but -"

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"I think it is not impossible - for the very obvious reasons, I have been trying to think about solutions to this problem for...a long time -" 

He's not actually feeling ready to tell Carissa about exactly how old he is. 

"- I have some potential plans but - most of them are, were, relying on - obtaining a good working relationship with the local gods. Which I am - no longer feeling very hopeful about." 

(He is also not going to tell Carissa about the time when Vkandis Sunlord set him on fire and burned him to death when he showed up peacefully at the Iftel border and asked to talk. Because that would involve...explaining a number of things...that he does not, currently, feel ready to explain.) 

But he somehow finds himself wanting to tell her anyway. 

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Just because she's the sort of person who grew up in a society ruled by the god of Hell and decided to fight Him - 

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"None of the gods can be reasoned with? Is that - why they're banned here -"

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"I am not certain -" yet "- that They cannot be reasoned with. Just that I cannot - could not - establish communication with Them." 

 

 

 

"....I meant to ask for this much later, once we had more thoroughly established any kind of trust, but - you said before, that one of the spells you were preparing was for mental enhancement. I suspect I would be more able to have this conversation, right now, if you were willing to cast it on me." 

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"I - sure? Which one? Wisdom and Cunning do different things. I only have Wisdom prepared but could do Cunning tomorrow."

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"- I mean, I will almost certainly wish to ask for both, in the longer term, especially since that is one of the types of permanent magical artifact you can make. I was aware that you had only prepared Wisdom as a spell today; that is the one that enhances - one's ability to notice things, in general and including within one's own mind, yes? ...I think that one would be useful by itself, right now, and perhaps even more useful than 'Cunning'." 

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"Of course, my lord." She casts it, and then sits down because maybe the alcohol is making her a little wobbly, actually.

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Oh. 

It's...not what he expected, somehow, even though once he stops to consider it - which he does almost instantly, because he's aware almost instantly that he's not conceiving of it accurately, or not framing it usefully - that seems to be the main thing the spell does, opens a sudden quiet new space behind each of his thoughts, space for a whisper of – is that true is that incomplete do I really believe that what question am I forgetting to ask what am I trying not to look toward - 

 

And, it turns out, this feels rather more like being slow and stupid than it does like being cleverer, at least right now, because there are so many things that he has apparently been trying not to look toward. 

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A mental tally accumulates, and he slightly wishes he had the other spell too, the one for Cunning, because he could use more speed and working memory and better mathematical reasoning right now, just to keep track of the sheer number of things that are suddenly obvious. 

He's pretty sure he knows exactly what's going on down south, he already had all the information he needed to pick out a hypothesis and - from there it's hardly any distance to being almost-sure, in a situation as messy and with as many degrees of freedom as the southern front, nearly all the work goes into narrowing down on a hypothesis at all. He can see the outline that any solution - or mitigation, really, there are enough constraints that it would take his best possible work and some luck to resolve it entirely

and he's not going to be lucky, because he has never once in the entire history of the Empire been lucky

and it's not even the right question to be asking. Neither is figuring out the northeast, which is less immediately clicking into place, though he can feel the uncertainty crystallizing, like the difference between a map that's mostly unfinished blank areas, and a ledger-book with blood spilled on it to obscure some particularly lines or columns and why does that metaphor feel so apt he's trying not to look he's been trying not to see it for centuries too slow too stupid too willfully blind why

 

and of course the most important questions to ask are about Carissa but that ties into everything, he thinks, why he's always been unlucky, why spilled blood is of course not even really a metaphor for how that bad luck manifests, it's always been paid in lives and not even his own life and maybe it's still worth it on net he would have to do the math again he suspects the methods he used to estimate value-in-lives saved were flawed before missing some key considerations and he should redo them if he's going to keep doing anything in the Empire and what how why is he even considering not continuing his work here, who else is going to do it, where else is there that could possibly be better... 

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...He gently corrals that line of thought, because yes it's true that some of the million things he was trying-not-to-see were his own emotions, but he thinks that isn't the part to prioritize during a limited-duration spell, if it's unresolved he can ask Carissa for another Owl's Wisdom later. Maybe a while later. It turns out this spell is utterly exhausting. 

And it's massively throwing off his time-sense, apparently, when all his thoughts want to keep unfolding and unpacking themselves or diving deeper into themselves. It feels like it should have taken five minutes to cover all of that but he suspects it was much less. There's something scary about that thought and no he's not looking at it yet feelings later focus– 

He notices that he's gritting his teeth, and tries to stop. "Carissa. How long has it been. How long is left." 

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" - it's been a ninth of the time the spell lasts. I can dispel it, if you don't like it, or if it's, uh, bumping into your loyalty-compulsions to the Emperor - that is the kind of thing it does, I should've warned you -"

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"No. It is - all right for now." It's not actually running into his loyalty compulsions, particularly; he can notice the shape of them in his mind, the directions they tug, but it's never been something he was trying not to look at, and he's not confused; he designed the compulsions himself. He wouldn't be able to make actual concrete plans to defect against the Empire, or leave, or take the current Emperor's place, but other than that, his at least do not particularly restrict his thoughts. Altarrin needs his own mind as intact as possible. 

They are probably related to some of why it hurts so much, but - only some. 

"...Please count off each minute to me as it passes," he says, his voice level and expression unflappable again. "If I - stop acknowledging you at at any point - then please dispel it then. Or if it appears to be having some very bad effect." He will have to trust her judgement on that. 

 

 

So. Carissa. 

He has so many unanswered questions: about Golarion, about magic, about her history, about how, exactly, Keltham changed her after his arrival, and what gave her the courage to think at all, and then to - set herself on a course to oppose Asmodeus, it must have been so dangerous - still will be, for the version of her that stayed behind minus some memories, if she's right about how that works. 

What did she say...

We deceived Keltham for three months, but then he figured it out and exercised his compacted right to depart, and I was in charge of managing the project in his absence. I had some disturbing realizations that made me less useful to my superiors, decided to set myself on a more practical course and then erase my memory.

And what didn't she say? He has less clarity on her unspoken thoughts, relayed through Ellitrea, but:

1. Her realization that circumstances had changed, that Asmodeus' victory was no longer guaranteed.

(If it had ever really been at all, or was that claim always Chelish propaganda?) (And the relevance, the analogy to Altarrin and Velgarth's situation, is obvious - but it hurts, and that isn't obvious, it's not straightforwardly a compulsion-conflict -) 

2. Realizing that she was fighting on the wrong side.

(Assumption: that it mattered which side she fought on; that she was powerful and clever and knowledgeable enough to be a huge advantage to her allied side, if not necessarily decisive on her own, but - her choices could be decisive and she was able to realize that, recognize it, see the opportunity and the stakes and - 

- and he needs that Carissa here but at the same time his mind is trying to flinch away scaredscaredscared and he knows he's not looking at what's beneath that, maybe with an even bigger Wisdom boost he would make that leap but he isn't, yet) 

3. Realizing that Keltham was already going to take the fight to Asmodeus, and would risk destroying the world. Or the multiverse. 

(And she thought that she had ended up somewhere worse, she was thinking that if Keltham knew that then he would be less careless, and it's really no mystery at all why this hurts, but while under a mind-altering spell is really not the best time to ask her if she still feels that way now that she's had some time to get settled and read the histories)

4. She thought none of it would make sense to him; that they would see her as an insane and useless slave.

(Ouch.)

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(Carissa increments her countdown and he acknowledges her, even though for the most part he feels very far away from this room, right now.) 

Ilanism, she was calling it in her head, the thing she expected him to be missing, the reason she thought none of her choices would make sense to her interrogators. Philosophy - no, something much broader than a philosophy, and at the same time more concrete, she talked about mental techniques, sometimes she thought to herself that she was using such techniques. Out of Keltham's world but no longer confined to it; Carissa was conceiving of it as something she could learn and teach. 

And she's wrong. Everything he's seen in her, does make sense to him. Keltham doesn't, yet, but obviously that's a flaw in Altarrin's understanding, not Keltham. He may or may not have access to enough of the key information, from here, and either way all of it would be flowing through Carissa, and so Carissa is still the important question to ask. 

 

 

She was horrified about their afterlife situation, or lack thereof. That surprised him, even when he already knew that her feelings on the destruction of her world or her multiverse were 'strongly against'. It...feels like new information, like a new piece to add that will suddenly connect two still-disparate halves of a puzzle in progress and change what he sees. Even though it's the same generator, she wants to exist and keep existing forever and she generalizes that, she wants it for everyone else too. 

What would she think of him if she knew the truth: that he had found immortality, if messily, and then kept it to himself - worse, stolen the bodies of children, relegating them to whatever dark and empty place the gods store dead souls in.

 

(It's been three minutes.)

 

Would she say that he hadn't tried hard enough

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He didn't. It's suddenly obvious; seven hundred years, and he never made the leap that Carissa, who must only be in her twenties and was raised in a country under the tyranny of Asmodeus and Hell, made as soon as their deception with Keltham fell apart. He still isn't sure exactly how she pulled that off–

...no, he knows exactly what it took: she must have been sure enough her mind wasn't being read. He's seen what her mind does when she knows it's being read by someone with power over her. And she must have cast this spell on herself, obviously she did, because apparently the entire thing this spell DOES is make you notice when you've spent the last months, years, centuries fighting on the wrong side. 

 

 

Altarrin is holding himself more still than almost any mortal can, barely breathing, his expression gone completely blank, but he acknowledges the four-minute mark.

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They were supposed to be having a conversation right now. That was what he was saying immediately before he asked her to cast the spell, he said it would help, except here he is, definitely incapable of having a conversation using his actual mouth. 

She apologized for not already knowing how to fix it. Meaning that she thought it was reasonable, in principle, to expect herself to know how to fix it. 

...His mind wants so badly to flinch away from accepting the conclusion that he needs to fix it, but it's an empty thought, because he already has accepted it. He can recognize that, now, that he was already resigned to it a long time ago. 

The Empire is going to fail. 

Oh, not necessarily in the sense that it falls into disorder, or fragments, or is conquered. Just in the sense that it's not what he needs for this war, and probably never could have been, not when he was building it without the full scale of the problem in mind. He let the gods corral his Empire onto the narrow path that suited Them, and it's - there are ways you could tally up the numbers that make it worth it - but it's not, it's not, it's - 

WHY is this the narrow path that suited the gods? He - feels like he has the information to piece that together, and with it a key part of Their motives, and he can notice his confusion in stark clarity, see the negative space of those unfinished thoughts, but he's, infuriatingly, not smart enough to hold all of the puzzles pieces up in his mind at once and fit them together. 

The Empire was worth trying, he thinks; it wasn't a mistake to found it six hundred years ago, and he doesn't think it was even a mistake to be as ruthless as he needed for his people to survive, though gods he was failing to weigh all the elements that go into that tradeoff, he feels like such an idiot and it's really kind of ironic, how intensely this spell is making him feel like an idiot. He's tired and he sets that aside and he's so angry and he sets that aside and he's in so so much pain that he hasn't let himself feel in so long and he sets that aside too. 

 

Carissa is telling him that it's been five minutes, which means he's more than halfway through his time, and he can't stop here but he can't keep going, either - something is conflicting with his compulsions, now, and he could navigate that if he had any attention to spare but he's holding onto so many fragments already. 

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"Would you lend me your headband as well," he says, calmly, pleasantly. "Only for the remaining time on the Owl's Wisdom spell." 

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Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

It's not like he can't just take it - 

- he probably won't want to give it back -

- she can make another -

- she's going to die and have her self wiped away and be reincarnated without memories, if she makes any mistakes in this world - she's not sure if that's the kind of thing she should expect to feel like waking elsewhere, or not -

 

"...it's not easy for me to part from, my lord - I could make you one -"

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His eyes focus on her more intently, as though he's suddenly actually seeing her again, instead of - whatever it is he was seeing, before, that was clearly not the room. Or particularly set in the present. 

"...I understand. For what it is worth, I give you my oath that I will return it to you within - I will commit to within ten minutes of when the Owl's Wisdom spell ends, perhaps sooner if I am no longer finding it as useful once that wears off. I am not going to take it against your will because - that is not the kind of working relationship I wish to build with you and it seems actually very very important that we - can work together. And after this I think I will want to explain things to you and I am worried you will find it harder to keep up without the enhancement you are used to. If you are not willing to part with it then I can wait until you make another, or - try to figure this out anyway more slowly with your remaining Owl's Wisdom spells. I would prefer to do the faster version because I am worried there is time-sensitivity and you will be in danger if I miss any precautions I ought be taking, and separately - this is not a decisive consideration but the process is deeply unpleasant." 

He says all of this very quickly because he does not have a lot of time for this left. 

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What kind of working relationship precludes taking her stuff. Is he Keltham. 

 

But if he's noticed some terrible danger, it'd be foolish, to deny him the resources to think about it. 

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She takes it off, and hands it to him, with an expression that makes it evident she'd more happily have severed and relinquished her arm.

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He puts it on.

 

The difference is immediate and obvious. It feels a little like combat-adrenaline, the way that everything is suddenly crisp and clear and time seems to slow down - in a way that feels precise, as though he can count off each heartbeat, very different from with the Owl's Wisdom alone - and yet it's completely different, with none of the narrowing-of-focus. He suspects that perhaps if he had this enhancement alone, without the Wisdom, it might become easy to lose himself in the details of a specific mathematical problem, but it's not in isolation - 

 

- no wonder Carissa was so reluctant to take it off, no wonder her expression when she relented looked like that of a woman going willingly to her execution - it's going to feel like dying, isn't it, when this ends. 

Not that it matters. He's died before. 

Focus. 

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The pain is still there, the corners and pathways of resistance in his mind from the tugging compulsions are still there, but he has so much more thought now, he can hold that in his attention and still, calmly, think about the problem. 

It's suddenly incredibly obvious why the Eastern Empire is the way it is. Like one of those optical illusions, snapping into place and now he won't ever unsee it, even though he never understood before. 

It's simple, really. Two opposing forces. His goals and vision: for a safe, prosperous, lawfully run, thriving Empire, possessed of an abundance of mages, permanent Gates in every town and mage-lights in every home and all of its children literate and nobody starving pointlessly in the cold, not ever ever again. 

And the second: the gods of Velgarth, nudging and tugging, not directly away from his own vision, but away from - something that usually correlates with it - and so the Empire isn't Tantara and never will be, it's wealthy and its children learn to read but it's not...free, even though in all his experience before that point, prosperity was a prerequisite for freedom. 

(Cheliax, too, is wealthy and unfree, and it's not for the same reason but the analogy might have helped.)

The Empire falls over and over toward the attractor where, for all their Palaces and mage-lights and reliably excellent crop yields, nobody is allowed to think. Their constraints are more nebulous than hunger and poverty: it's social, political, and of course the more direct compulsions. And so the Empire always falls toward this groove, and - it feels like he can extrapolate it out for a thousand years if he wants, with at least moderate confidence. Dynasties will rise and fall, rebellions will boil up and be crushed, civil wars will kill some of the best and brightest of every general but not everyone, and the Empire, this vast machine he built only half-knowing what he was doing, will endure. The Empire is a stable structure and that's the point, it was the one place where he and the gods could agree. 

Stability, because - of course, because They see the world through Foresight, and of course it's going to be blurrier, less useful, if things are changing too fast and the future is too uncertain. You get that with human Foreseers, too. He could probably have guessed this as early as during his first life, when he was only Ma'ar, fighting a doomed war with his former teacher, and toward the end none of his Foreseers were of any use. 

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The gods didn't see the Cataclysm coming. Altarrin has no absolute logical proof of that, but he thinks the balance of evidence favors it.

Tantara was wealthy and free and flourishing, and the gods at the time allowed it, and then Urtho's brilliance and Ma'ar's arrogance took it past some critical point of no return - 

(A quiet mental note, that thought feels off, incomplete and wrongly framed and mostly wrapped around a core of self-blame and grief.) 

- but some line was crossed and suddenly the gods were blind, and no one saw the Cataclysm in time to stop it. 

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To the extent that gods can be terrified (and they probably can't, it's forcing fundamentally alien beings into a human ontology, but there must be some analogy) it would have been terrifying. 

 

No wonder it seemed worth spilling blood, to Them (if They can even care out - or see at all - the human lives lost, Altarrin doesn't think he has enough information to draw a confident conclusion either way, and shouldn't get too stuck in any guesses based off incomplete picture.) Altarrin's made that tradeoff himself. 

But the gods are doing it wrong. It's not enough. The Empire will never be enough (and he had to fight Them every step of the way even for that), and the rest of the world is worse, and - 

- Carissa's horror about it helped bring it into clarity. People are dying, every day, and there's nowhere for them to land, nothing to catch and hold them and give them ongoing experiences - but they're not gone, he knows indirectly via spying and rumor that the Shin'a'in shamans claim to be able to speak with, or at least interact-in-some-way-with, the spirits of their people's dead. And he thinks he understands Keltham's theory of people, when they truly cease to exist, waking up in a different place, but the dead souls of Velgarth won't even have that. Only murky faded fragments, so much less than he gets, which is already so far from enough. 

(He doesn't remember Urtho's face, anymore.) 

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He - probably could try harder, or at least more creatively, or at least in more costly ways, to cross the vast inferential gap, to convey to the gods how and why the current state of the world is unacceptable. 

He's not really expecting it to work, though– 

 

No, that's a wrong thought as well...

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Only the gods get a seat at Their negotiation table. 

 

Is that what Carissa was planning in Golarion, as well? He should ask her if her world offers a way to create new gods to specification, or to become a new god oneself– no, he shouldn't ask her right now, the negative space of his confusion says that there must be, and besides he has only ninety seconds or so left before the new smarter Altarrin dies before he will be in a much worse position to think original thoughts, but in a better position to get Carissa's thoughts on the situation, since she'll have her headband back

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This isn't Golarion. Magic is fundamentally different; an absurdly oversimplified gloss on it is that, here, magic doesn't allow you to cheat, it doesn't let you pull information and intelligence from nothingness.

Though Carissa's magic seems to work anyway, and maybe it's learnable– it should be learnable, that's another thing that didn't explicitly come up in her words or thoughts but feels suddenly obvious in context - but even that might not be enough, the gods of Velgarth are different as well, Carissa's magic might only work up to a certain point, he has to assume a worst-case scenario where his only powers and resources are the ones he already has, and the ones that Carissa already has right now. 

Is there still a way to move forward, claim a place at the gods' negotiating-table...

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....All right, fine, that would probably work. In principle. 

The logistics would have to be so heavily overdetermined, to get past the bad-luck-interference, and it would matter more than anything else has ever mattered in mortal history that he got it right on the first try, because yes, the thing he's thinking of right now is making a god, one that is as much like himself as a Velgarth god can be, and the stakes are absurdly high, and it doesn't even feel real yet, and his body is trying to get started on a panic-reaction about the concept of it anyway, which he steps on as hard as he can because he has, like, thirty seconds left, and needs to finish checking some mental math. 

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He really doesn't like that math! He wishes he could hand it back to the universe and demand that it go think about its mistakes and then give him better math. 

 

He thinks he has it right within an order of magnitude, though. No, he's a lot more sure than that; the unknown factor is Carissa, and that's enough of an unknown to pin quite a lot of hope on... He needs to find out as much as possible about the details of her plan in Golarion, and the details of the guesses she made about Keltham's plan, and there has to be a better way, hastohastohasto the current state of the world is unacceptable but so is that math– 

Except that he still has a few seconds left on Owl's Wisdom, and so his mind catches that thought, and holds it up to the light, and it's an ugly answer but it's not, really, surprising, that he already knows what decision he would make. He can tell himself that it makes a difference, if he can get them back later, but he would do it anyway. 

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He gives Carissa an anguished look, and then the Owl's Wisdom runs out; he can still, mostly, hold all the insights and patterns-he-recognized and theories and numbers in his head, but his mind is no longer relentlessly generating them at top speed, and also he's incredibly exhausted, and on top of all the agonizing realizations, the strain against his compulsions is really starting to hurt. 

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Well, that doesn't look like someone who had some nice epiphanies about how much good he's done in his life.

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He can collapse and have feelings later

"I would like to take five to ten minutes and write down some things," Altarrin says, his voice mostly level. "Then I will give back your headband, and - I will have a great deal to explain. In the meantime do you need anything." 

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To go home and have Keltham hug me and tell me he won't let me die.

 

"No."

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The compulsions object more strongly to him writing things down than they did to just thinking, and he's running lower on mental reserves to handle it graceful, in a way that's more about his incredibly unsettled emotions than having enough working memory to step around it. Usually he doesn't have problems like this at all; he can construe 'loyalty to the Emperor' narrowly and 'loyalty to the Empire' broadly, and 'loyalty to the Empire' supercedes loyalty to the Emperor in his person (though during his absence and his frustrating sojourn at court as Shakari, it had inevitably flipped the other way, and he had to burn years of political capital on getting it changed back without making it obvious that this was his agenda.)

As it is, he's - having trouble accessing a headspace where the Empire feels like anything other than a mistake. Which, it turns out, makes it much harder to calmly write about plans to fight-or-negotiate-with-or-both the gods while framing this as fundamentally loyal to the Empire's interests. 

He has to do a lot of circumlocution and his notes are more scattered and disorganized than he would prefer; he probably couldn't do it at all without the headband, but he is slightly worried about whether these notes will still even make sense to his diminished self. 

 

It might not be a disaster if he has to wait until tomorrow when Carissa can cast both enhancement spells on him, or later when she can make him a headband of his own. He actually feels much less time sensitivity around Carissa's safety, now. She knows how to be predictable and legible and thus safe to the Empire, which he suspects means she won't start showing up as a threat in the gods' Foresight until and unless she changes those intentions and actually lets herself think again, the way she must have when she had her own set of awful realizations.

(The awkward part is that he needs her help, and asking for it - trying to ally with her at all - is almost inevitably going to put her in much more danger...) 

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Altarrin continues to look vaguely distressed while he's taking notes. After exactly ten minutes - he's not quite done but he gave his word - he returns the headband to Carissa. 

(It doesn't actually feel much like dying. More reminiscent of the next awakening that comes after dying.) 

He doesn't say anything at first, because he has a pounding headache and putting his thoughts into words seems to be temporarily offline. 

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The obvious guess is that his loyalty-compulsions are in fact a problem. She can Dispel them, probably, but she doubts she can dispel them while he's awake and can stop her, and she doubts she can ask his permission; any competent geas like that would prohibit permitting its modification. 

 

"My lord," she says. "If you will, I'd stay the night, and we can speak - and you can borrow the headband again - in the morning when we've both rested" and I can prepare Dispel Magic.

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This is somehow not the response Altarrin was expecting, but since he has no ability to read her thoughts, and currently limited ability to think his own thoughts, he isn't managing to parse why. 

"That - sounds wise." Though he's not sure how he is possibly going to succeed at sleeping. "Should - say a few things. First." 

Actually, it's tempting to ask her if she has her own spell to read his mind, that sounds vastly easier than explaining out loud, but there are way too many unknowns for it to be a good idea. He doesn't, in fact, fully trust her. He just doesn't see a better option than working toward trust with her because the alternative is murdering somewhere between five and five hundred million people for power he's not thinking that thought right now it's too hard to reconcile with protecting the Empire. The second problem is that, if he's right, she is currently as safe as anyone else in his Empire - safer than the Emperor - and she's particularly thoroughly safe from any kind of god-nudged human enemy action for tonight if she stays in his rooms. But if she learns what he knows in the wrong order, and when he's not in a good state to talk her through the rest of it, and she starts making her own plans and forming intentions, maybe with the Owl's Wisdom spell, she did prepare it multiple times - 

- then it's not impossible she might alarm the gods enough that They would expend absurd quantities of divine coincidence-nudging to collapse the roof on their heads. Or something. Which is probably all right, she's hard to injure and he has well-honed reflexes, but he's also not at his best, and it's stupid to notice that something is a survival risk and do it anyway

Focus. 

"...I realize that our - local problems, with afterlives and - gods - may be - more pervasive, and less tractable, than I had hoped. But - less time sensitive, I think. I understand if you prefer not to take my word for it but am much less worried about your safety in the short term." 

(He says it without making eye contact, with his expression and the way he's holding his body sort of hinting that his mind is not really in the room with her.) 

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This isn't really him, on her current best guess of the situation; it's whatever shape he had to take to not break the loyalty-compulsions. She has sympathy for that, but it's not worth talking to, really. "I understand. We don't need to make long-term plans now. I'll stay here with you, and we'll rest, and tomorrow you can tell me whatever you think I ought to know."

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He can tell that she isn't really listening, or isn't taking his words at face value - which, to be fair, he was expecting based on how she was thinking before and also just on her incentives and information state, obviously she doesn't trust him.

Something feels different about this, though. He's not succeeding at pinning down the edges of that confusion - it's kind of awful, actually, knowing that he could have done that easily with Owl's Wisdom in place, and now he can only see the bare fact that he should be doing that and is failing to - 

- he is, realistically, too tired to figure out what's going on with Carissa, let alone to navigate the upcoming conversation.

"That makes sense. Do you - need anything else to be comfortable here, if you are staying the night?" He vaguely remembers that her Ring of Sustenance partially replaces sleep. "If you sleep less than me, there are books I can offer you - not as large a selection without leaving the bedroom, if you do want to walk around the rest of my suite that is almost certainly safe but it would be safer in the long run if you - make it look as though we did more physically intimate activities here than we in fact did." 

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"Understood. Do you want me injured? In Cheliax no one would think much of it if I wasn't, but we have better healing."

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That...would probably be more informative or useful if he were less exhausted and had access to a Thoughtsenser relaying. Altarrin still makes a mental note, for background on Cheliax. 

"No - the general perception of anyone spying on my personal quarters is that I am not - at least not consistently - interested in that sort of thing in the bedroom, so it would not be suspicious." 

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"Then I will have no trouble in making use of my time when I wake, and will not trouble you."

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Altarrin still feels worried that– ...but it's not going to be helpful, what he wants - the implicit goal that still feels unsatisfied - is for Carissa to feel that she will not be in danger based on her thoughts, and that she is among allies, neither of which are even straightforwardly true. 

He tiredly points out where she can get herself water (and more wine if she wants it, for some reason, though that would be surprising), and the attached lavatory, which includes a bathtub with running hot water, and his bookshelf. 

His room does only have one bed. It's very large and this won't be the first time that one of his 'guests' has stayed the night and he's used to it. 

...And he's desperately curious what Carissa is thinking, but she probably isn't going to start thinking it while he's still awake and interacting with her, and - in fact one of his realizations was that it's loadbearing, for her, to feel sufficiently confident that her thoughts aren't being read. So hopefully she has some way of checking that he's asleep and confirming the thoroughness of his shielding, and....he'll find out in the morning what she concluded. 

He finds the energy to change into his nightclothes (without any sign of self-consciousness). "Good night," he tells her, and settles himself on his side of the enormous bed. 

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Does he sleep under magical protections that'll interfere with Dispelling his compulsions.

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...Yeah, definitely.

His native shielding apparently never goes down even in his sleep. To Detect Magic, it looks like it wouldn't completely block a Dispel Magic, but might interfere.

He's also wearing, like, six different talismans, mostly as various kinds of simple jewelry. They provide multiple partially-overlapping protective effects that, between them, are going to thoroughly block most kinds of magical effect from reaching him; a 9th-circle spell might have enough raw power to brute-force its way past his shields, but a Dispel Magic won't. 

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Well, this is going to be inconvenient. 

....sleep first, figure out whether she has any route to accomplishing this goal in the morning.

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Altarrin will still be asleep by the time Carissa wakes up; he lacks the benefit of a Ring of Sustenance, and usually sleeps about seven hours a night, but he's actually slept very little in the last 36 hours, and has just pushed his mind much harder than he usually does. 

His sleep is not untroubled; he's tired enough not to fully wake up, but he's restless. 

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With the benefit of sleep this intractable-seeming problem indeed seems much less complicated. 

 

She prepares her spells with the goal in mind of potentially assassinating the Emperor of the Eastern Empire. Better to be prepared than unprepared, and you don't need a very high probability of that to want to prepare for it. She takes some extra hours about it, because she can't help trying for fifth yet again, but in the end settles for a good array of spells useful for her goals.

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When Altarrin wakes she'll be unsuspiciously in a corner, reading more history books.

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He wakes up - instantly checks all of his surroundings with mage-sight - and through sufficiently-accumulated habit, doesn't react violently to another person being near him. He trusts his past self to have been sufficiently paranoid and cautious about who he allowed into his bedroom at all, and after that, whether he was comfortable actually falling asleep in their presence.

It takes a second or two more to re-orient and remember who, exactly, he invited to his suite last night, and why he let her stay the night - 

 

- it is overall not a very happy set of realizations to wake up to. 

Doesn't matter. 

His mind is working better, now, but he stirs and yawns and stretches first, before actually addressing Carissa.

(And wishes he could read her mind, right now he feels half-blind without that, but he can't reliably slip a Thoughtsenser past her magical perceptions and general paranoia, and - that's not the shape of interaction he's wanting to aim toward with her, anyway.) 

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Carissa is so innocent and not dangerous at all. Just reading a book, over here.

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Altarrin sits up. 

(She's doing something right now that - isn't quite being in the room with him, and/or isn't quite letting herself have her own thoughts and goals - but it's different at least from what she was doing last night. He thinks.) 

(It's a little frustrating how the Owl's Wisdom spell kicked in and made him suddenly notice all his mistakes and feel stupid, and yet now that it's worn off, instead of rolling all that back, he just feels even stupider.) 

 

"...Right. Do you– is there anything you need, before we continue the conversation that we left off last night?" 

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"No, my lord. I prepared two each of Owl's Wisdom and Fox's Cunning, if you want them."

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He's already looking around for his notes. Oh, good, there they are. 

"That was well thought out. If the two spells can be combined without side effects– without worse side effects than combining Owl's Wisdom with your headband - then, yes, I think it would be helpful." 

(Though he's going to grab some water to drink first.) 

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"The only side effects are from, uh, thinking, my lord."

 

 

 

Aaaaaaand does he lower his magical defenses, as he did last night, when she reaches out her hand to him to cast Owl's Wisdom.

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He does! Not all of them - only some of his external shield-talismans seem to respond to his intent, but it looks like his remaining magical shielding is mostly more like Protection From Energy - a defense against violent attacks (magical and mundane), but his mind is less defended. Since he's expecting her to try to affect it. 

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Her face is no different than it was last night.

 

She is not, actually, sure this is the best plan. Just that it is likely enough to be so to be worth attempting, and that if it is to be attempted it should be attempted now, when she has not yet herself been made subject of the Emperor.

 

Dispel Magic.

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He's waiting expectantly, not trying to resist.

(He doesn't trust her, not fully, but he knows that - it's not that he needs her help, it's just that the alternate paths where he can still win without her help are awful - and he wants more information, which he can only get by explaining his thoughts to her, and he can probably only do that if he's mentally-enhanced back to the level when he can read his messy notes and fully re-derive all of what he was thinking at the time -)

 

Dispel Magic does, in fact, take out all of his compulsions. They're not especially high-powered or robust, by Golarion standards.

 

Which would by itself be startling enough to provoke an immediate response, but Altarrin barely has a chance to notice, because Dispel Magic also hits his personal shield-talismans. It doesn't feel like an attack, exactly, but it doesn't not feel like an attack, and he can sort of sense that only the less-overpowered half of his talismans are actually going to succumb and be disabled but

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In less than a second, on pure reflex, he's flung a paralysis-spell at Carissa and built a horizontal Gate-threshold under both of them.

At which point they both crash to the bare unfinished stone floor of an underground records cache, a little ways outside the current southeast border of the Empire. 

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Hey no fair in principle something being well within the range of expected outcomes you calculated should make it not scary when it happens!!

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Altarrin rolls away from her, scrambles up. 

"- Was that your doing or an outside attack." 

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"Undid your compulsions, my lord. I didn't think it was likely it would have additional effects but I may have been wrong about the magic system interaction."

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He...doesn't really relax, much, but he settles back on his heels and looks at her. 

"Right. I–" he doesn't actually need to ask why, "- it seems it also undoes the magic on some of my protective talismans, which is most of why I was - alarmed enough to Gate us a thousand miles away. This location is secure and hopefully nobody will react to the Gate-signature from my room - it is well-shielded and also I frequently Gate from there and the distance is not obvious from the origin-threshold." 

He's finding it slightly hard to catch his breath properly. 

"...I am guessing you did not, in fact, cast either of the mental-enhancement spells on me yet." 

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"No my lord. I prepared them and can cast them but it seemed moderately likely that you were unable to think because of your compulsion-spell and that you'd be able to think more clearly without it and also that you couldn't indicate that and had to stop me if I asked."

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Sigh. 

"...That was a correct decision-process, at least. I - was managing all right, but - for reasons you could not have possibly known, and I was in fact having some difficulty with the compulsions around loyalty to the Emperor and the Empire, as– not directly as a result of Owl's Wisdom, but because of some things I realized once I could - finish certain lines of thought that I had apparently been avoiding for centuries." 

 

Pause. 

 

"...Part of the context here, which you could not have known, is that I am approximately seven hundred years old, and was involved in founding the Empire. You probably encountered some of my past incarnations in the histories." 

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"....so does your world in fact have a way for people to not die?" Because she would REALLY not have risked this otherwise.

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(Altarrin wishes he had a way to read her thoughts, right now, because he's still definitely missing something.) 

"Yes. Not scalably, and imperfect - I lose memories between bodies, and I - 

 

 

 

- I want to answer all of the questions I am sure you have, because I think it may end up being incredibly important whether or not I have your - help - in what I am trying to do, but - I am not sure I started in the best order, I - was disoriented." 

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- she blinks at him, discombobulated. This is not how she expected this to go! On several levels, at this point!

 

 

Well, no point in being small anymore. "I do have a lot of questions, but I'm not attached to an order of operations, here, you're the one who knows our constraints. If we're taking over the Empire I want to be Empress; if we're fleeing, I have some Dimension Doors and Rope Tricks but it, uh, looks like you have that covered. If we're acting like everything's normal I'm going to need some help with your mindreaders."

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- he unweaves the paralysis-spell on her, which he should really have done immediately, and retrieves a couple of crates to sit on from the shelves lining every wall. And then smiles at her. It's completely different from his previous smiles, relaxed and natural and not like Abrogail at all. 

"That was fast! ...I was wondering how long it would take before I - had a chance to meet the woman who realized she was fighting on the wrong side and formed a plot to fight Asmodeus. By the way, I am curious - did you in fact have those realizations while using the Owl's Wisdom spell?" 

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She is still too scared to particularly parse this as a good thing though it does definitely seem like objectively it ought to be one. 

 

" - yes? I don't - I don't think it was actually that I needed to be wiser, to see it, so much as that I needed a reason to try actually thinking, and being suddenly better at thinking is a reason to try doing it."

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"And I am guessing that you were - unusually confident that your thoughts were going unobserved, and that once that crossed a certain line, the thoughts you were not supposed to have stopped hiding themselves? ...That is not a problem I generally have, so it is rather more embarrassing how many things I realized at once, yesterday. I - suppose your arrival gave me a reason to actually think. And I...suspect I would have made all of the same leaps eventually, with or without the spell or your headband, but it - the spell having a temporary duration gave me time pressure to do it as fast as possible." 

Sigh. 

"And so here we are." And she still looks tense, even if she's allowing herself to think anyway. "- This is one of my records caches. It is very thoroughly magically shielded and nobody but myself knows of its location, or existence. ...The gods frequently try to murder me. I think it will take Them at least a month to want to murder you as badly. - Honestly, I am not sure how much They can see you, given how much of your causal history is from entirely outside this world. We may be able to test that with the aid of a human Foreseer, they use the same fundamental mechanism." 

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" - right. There's prophecy, here. I didn't even think about that - wow, it's like being mindread except worse..."

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"...There is not in your world?" That changes a lot of things that he thought he already knew. Including, maybe, why Carissa thought she had any hope of taking on Asmodeus. 

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"It broke. The gods had a war and they broke it. A hundred years ago. They still do things but it has to be - very overt -"

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"Your gods had a war? That is - terrifying in itself..." He drags a hand over his face. "And I suppose we are going to be running into differences like that for quite a while. Meaning that I do not really know what our constraints are, yet, and ought take some steps to retain all of our options. Though it is plausible we should not return to the Empire at all," a brief flicker of a smile, "however incredible it would be to support your bid for Empress. Some of the things I realized last night were around - why the combination of my own goals for it and the gods' goals for it combined to make it - the way it is - and I suspect that makes it a poor base of operations. Also I cannot safely return unless I put back the compulsions, there are precautions around that and I know how good they are because I designed them. ...Still. I will pass on a message so that my disappearance does not arouse suspicion. If I could borrow your headband again for five minutes, it would help enormously in drafting that message to minimize suspicion or later fallout?" 

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"Of course." She takes it off without hesitation, this time. 

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He puts it on, heads to a shelf to retrieve writing materials, and paces for five minutes while he thinks about what to say. Retain option value... That doesn't just mean giving himself an unsuspicious route to return, though, it also means setting it up so that if he does decide not to return, he can still minimize the harm to his allies - and, more generally, anyone currently in a position of power in the Empire who is competent and pursuing reasonable goals.

So he needs to lay the groundwork for a story that would explain his mysterious disappearance - probably 'assassination' is less disruptive, more the kind of thing that just happens sometimes, than 'defection'... 

"I am going to tell them that I took you with me to investigate a situation in the northwest of the Empire," he says to Carissa. "There is in fact a situation there, related to another country under the direct protection of a god - my people know I have been tracking it, and my enemies, who have misleading information about you, will make usefully different inferences about why I took you. I think the best option for long-term stability is just to avoid Iftel entirely, which I think I can angle for both in the case where we return in a day or two, and where we work from elsewhere and I plant an explanation for my disappearance that avoids fallout for my allies. ...You will probably not need to know exactly what message I am sending but I am following a general strategy of telling you my reasoning." 

He gives her back the headband; he has the message-draft now, and it might be noticeable even over the communication-spell if he's inexplicably much smarter. 

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"I'm assuming I have wildly too little context to be useful on your navigating the Empire. ...how do you defy the gods at all if there's prophecy? Can't they just see it coming and squish you?"

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He sends off the message via communication-spell - to one of his mages who he knows doesn't have the skill to track its bearing or distance, both of which are wrong - before returning to his crate and answering Carissa's question. 

"Well, I think it is debatable to what extent I have successfully defied the gods at all, I suspect the answer is 'less than I had hoped'. But - They do have limited visibility, and perhaps limited attention with which to process what They do see. That is one of the pieces I put together once I had the headband last night, actually; I think that mortal actions which create large and rapid changes in the world also blur Their Foresight. Which explains some of why They do not approve of me - and, I believe, why the Empire ended up the way it is. I could make it wealthy, but only at the cost of freedom, so that it is still predictable to Them. ...The other half is that there was a Cataclysm seven hundred years ago that did nearly destroy the world, and was arguably my fault. The gods did not see it coming in time to prevent it. They - are probably overcorrecting now." 

 

He's finding this slightly hard and painful to talk about, for reasons that would probably be obvious if he had an Owl's Wisdom right now. 

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Carissa's reaction is not exactly making this easier! 

"I did not mean to cause it, I did not myself have the information I would have needed to predict it, I am certain that neither did the mage who used the weapon responsible against me - he was the most skilled mage in the world, and my teacher, then our countries ended up at war - he would not have done it if he had any inkling of the collateral damage it would cause. Obviously our good intentions were...not enough...but I was very young and - in a hurry - and I have learned better. And the current state of the world is not good enough! People are still dying and the gods are not going to allow me to build an Empire advanced enough to cure death with magic or technology!" 

 

 

 

 

"I– do you have questions." 

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"...lots of them. ...how are you immortal."

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By means which he hates, along with just about everything about the current situation and his place in it. 

"I set up three or four contingencies in my first lifetime. At least one of the others should have worked - I studied the magical theory in more depth later - except that the Cataclysm ripped apart nearly all magical artifacts on the planet and a number of extraplanar ones. The mechanism that survived...involves pulling my spirit to a hidden sanctuary in the Void, one of our other planes, when my body dies. It is linked to the bodies of all descendants of my first body - I was thorough about having descendants - and there is a spell that lets my spirit jump to one of them. Usually evicting the resident soul in the process. I - did try sharing, early on - but it often caused problems." 

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" - wow, okay. The other mechanisms don't require that?"

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"No."

(Though the ones involving artifacts in the material plane are generally going to be more vulnerable to direct god-interference. And getting one of them set up for her is going to be arduous and risky, he thinks he can pull it off if he's willing to burn enough of his resources on it - and he's already almost certain it would be worth it - if it's true that the gods can't yet see her clearly, they should try to do it fast, but they need to find a way to test that safety first -)

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"Does prophecy work in such a fashion that we can, say, start a project and commit not to have any effects outside the project until the gods interfere with it, will that make it not look dangerous to them, can they see us if we condition on prophecy ourselves, how do we test if I'm a visibility field for them..."

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"...The second one is easier to answer, because we can do it empirically. Humans can have innate Gifts of Foresight - in addition to receiving visions that I think must be directly god-mediated, in the absence of the Gift - and according to my study of magic, they have to be accessing the same underlying mechanism of reality. Inconveniently there are two types, short- and long-range, and short-range is the one that can more reliably be used on demand – but will also be less comparable to how gods tap into the underlying Foresight-mechanism, so less comparable. We should try both. Alternately, with enough of your world's mental enhancement, I might be able to derive a more solid answer just from the theory I already know; it all fits together, I am just - not clever enough or skilled enough at spatial visualization to see how. My intuition says that you should not be very visible to them yet, and that over time your blind spot will - spread out among other things you interact with, as noise, while you become more visible - but that is really only a guess. 

"...The first question is harder because I do not have any uncontaminated data on it. It did not help when I tried something similar. It could be that the gods have already decided to oppose any project I start, but it also could be that - mortal humans are not the kind of entity that can make the right kind of legible precommitment." 

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"My ex would say, maybe they can't if they're not ilani."

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"....Say more about that?" 

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Damn it, now she has to talk about this and she has to be fair and reasonable or she will die.

"He would think that mortals out of dath ilan, and maybe those who learned it, know how to use the decision theory gods use, and would be the right shape that their commitments would be visible in prophecy. ....I am, to be clear, unsure if this is right. I am worried that there were unspoken premises to a lot of the dath ilani stuff I learned. But it is true that they're much much better at Law than almost anyone in Golarion."

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Well, he was right to be intrigued, that does in fact seem incredibly relevant to the plan he came up with in two minutes last night - and, maybe, hopefully, relevant to finding better alternatives. 

He wants dath ilan's books and it's intensely frustrating that not only can he not have that, even Carissa never saw them, they were filtered through a single random citizen of that world - a young one, it sounded like - and it's so important, it might be the single most important thing he can learn from Carissa, if he - if they - are going to succeed at fixing Velgarth. 

"How much of their 'decision theory' did you have time to learn in three months? I think - even if it is wrong, or has assumptions baked in that do not hold elsewhere, if we enhance ourselves enough and try to make sense of it together we can probably notice that, and pull out only the parts that we can still use -" 

 

(There's a quiet niggling sense in the back of his mind that this is a missing piece, that it makes sense of everything else he's heard about dath ilan, the parts that didn't quite fit together before. Unfortunately, without the Wisdom-enhancement, he's not succeeding at tracing it down.) 

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"I know some things that might be a candidate for - what it takes to precommit effectively in foresight. I'm not, in fact, the right kind of agent, right now, I'd totally break my word to prevent my certain death, but with Foresight that's obviously an error and I think when I reflect on it for a while it'll go away -

- the key thing is that you're not just choosing to take actions, right, you're choosing to be a rule that produces outputs from inputs in all possible worlds, and something like a god will be the same rule in every world, whereas mortals will do all kinds of different shit depending if they just ate snack or if they're angry or if they're embarrassed..."

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"Interesting! That sounds similar to the kind of reasoning I was already using, to maintain coherency between my different lives - I lose the majority of my explicit memories but I retain procedural memory much better, so the decision I can actually control even for my future incarnations is - what shape of person to be, what process I am running to make the day-to-day decisions and plans. I have books and personal notes on this but they are not here and I would rather rest longer before another long-distance Gate." 

Altarrin looks intent and engaged and fully present in the room, maybe more than he has at any previous point. 

"I am curious how dath ilan teaches people to think this way? I - did not get the sense that Keltham was extraordinary, for their world, and my own experience is that even very extraordinary people have difficulty when I try to convey it." 

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"Keltham's - not special in that way, no. They teach it to all their children, it's one of their highest priorities as a civilization I think, sorting all the children into the exact right peer groups to go through the lectures together. He lectured us, and we - needed to learn it to keep deceiving him, so we did."

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"And did it work? Including for others apart from yourself? ...I think I am starting to see why these may have been circumstances where you were more 'heretical or difficult to control'. It - seems somehow unlikely that the usual forms of propaganda and known safe beliefs would...work, on someone who grew up in dath ilan. I suppose I am also impressed that you managed it for a whole three months with Keltham." 

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"Different people had different problems. I think I am the only one who had the specific problems I did." Maybe Peranza too. "But in general the project had to tolerate more heresy than most projects, yes."

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(Altarrin is not a Thoughtsenser and so has no way of knowing her thoughts on Peranza, though he would certainly be curious if he did.) 

He nods. "And I imagine it was worthwhile for Cheliax to take that risk - including the risk of exactly what happened, where you had some realizations and made plans to leave - because Keltham's knowledge was so valuable in expectation -" 

 

Pause. 

 

"- though I am also wondering about what this would mean for - not propaganda exactly, but social control more broadly - in dath ilan. From your description, it seemed as though they are doing quite well on - some kind of top-down social control. Despite their teaching all of their young schoolchildren the mental skills that I predict would result in everyone questioning the authorities and forming their own understanding, even if it was inconvenient for society -?" 

 

(The niggling feeling that he's missing something obvious is back, stronger than before - it feels like this piece, what he's trying to grasp for right now, is connected to another equally critical piece, and if he could see how they fit together then dath ilan would make sense. He's still not quite seeing it, yet, not without a Wisdom-boost, but the confusion is starting to make itself louder in the back of his mind.) 

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"Yeah, it was weird. They taught them all to question society but they all ended up at - the same answers? Keltham would say that if you have lots of people question society and they're reasonably smart they'll still all agree that 2 + 2 = 4, which makes some sense, but - 

 

- but I think anyone out of dath ilan would probably have tried to destroy Golarion, and it's not just because they're right, it's a value - set of priorities - thought-trap - I vary in how charitable I am about it - that dath ilan gave all of them that normal people don't have."

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"I mean, 'normal' is not a single coherent thing, right, dath ilan is hardly the first society to shape the values and priorities of its citizens." And for now he's not focusing on how the dath ilani values and priorities, revealed through Keltham, look according to his own values. Understand it first. 

"Just - from where I am standing, it looks as though they are doing it deliberately. With far more success than I would have expected, but - I think 'how' is not the most important question - there must be something they are aiming for, and I do not see the why...?"  

He's MISSING SOMETHING his mind is raising an alarm it's right in front of him he can almost see the shape of it but he still can't, quite, make it come clear. 

"- actually, would you be willing to cast your Owl's Wisdom spell for me again? I think– I feel very close to making sense of what they are doing, and - I might also request your headband for Cunning but I suspect Wisdom is most of what I need to see it." 

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"We figured that it was an Evil conspiracy but I realize that's not a why."


Owl's Wisdom. For real this time.

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And, of course, the immediate effect is that Altarrin notices several ways in which he's been reasoning stupidly. 

(This spell by itself continues to be - actually pretty unpleasant to experience - but on its own, he suspects it would feel less like waking-up-after-dying than it did when combined with the headband. And he doesn't think he needs the working memory boost as badly; for one, he's caught up on sleep now. And it might matter that he can bounce ideas off Carissa, who has substantial context on dath ilan that she hasn't conveyed to him yet, even if she too is seeing it at a remove.) 

There isn't an obvious answer, is the first thing he notices. He just doesn't know enough; he's making inferences based on shadows cast on a wall and then reflected across a hazy mirror, and anything he can come up with is fundamentally a guess, filtered through his own priors and understanding of the world. 

But, even taking that into account - 

 

- what is dath ilan trying to achieve? 

The same way that the Empire tries to teach all of its schoolchildren to read and write, dath ilan tries to teach all of its schoolchildren to - what. To use the decision theory gods use, is how Carissa put it. To shape themselves and their minds such that their precommitments would show up in Foresight, legible to the gods. A way of thinking about one's own decision-process that Altarrin recognized, and Carissa didn't disagree with his assessment. 

(And they their children into cohorts, which might or might not matter, it seems self-evident to Altarrin just in terms of good pedagogy, but Carissa brought it up specifically, and he suspects it wasn't self-evident to Cheliax– side point, he can worry about it later.) 

When a young dath ilani winds up in Cheliax, and the authorities order their best and brightest to learn from him, this results in more heresies than most projects would tolerate. Up to and including a student of Keltham's deciding to defect and personally oppose the god they once served. And Altarrin suspects Carissa isn't saying everything. 

Corollary: the Eastern Empire, for all that he wants to argue that it's a better place to live than a country under the dominion of the god of Hell, is similar in enough ways. It would destabilize things, if you tried to run a single important project that taught its members these reasoning techniques, let alone if you taught them to all schoolchildren everywhere - 

 

- but dath ilan isn't unstable. Dath ilan is tidy and organized, prosperous and technologically advanced beyond what he could have imagined possible before now.

They taught them all to question society but they all ended up at the same answers, is what Carissa said. 

There are a lot of possible explanations, including that dath ilani natives only look human but have fundamentally different minds, but, but even holding that in mind - 

- it feels like a civilization that was skillfully built to be a certain way on purpose. 

What purpose. 

 

Well, if everyone is taught to reason - the way that gods do, (that's not quite right but he's going to keep using it as a mental shorthand for now), they're going to notice discrepancies, you couldn't run a stable Empire off propaganda and incentives to lie, but at the same time your people are more legible and more predictable - 

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And so if you have sufficiently precise control of what the people can perceive in the world around them (for example, if your civilization has destroyed all records of its history, at presumably an absurd cost) - and if the 'Keepers', the elite class in power and working behind the scenes and still allowed to know the secrets of the past, also know even more of the relevant 'decision theory' - then maybe it's not surprising or hard to imagine at all, to have a society where everyone is taught to question authority and notice when things don't make sense, and also they predictably come to the same answers. 

Setting up an education system on that scale is expensive. (Altarrin should know; he's tried it.) Concealing all records of your history has to be even more expensive. And on the surface, it feels like those should be in tension, why would the leaders of dath ilan invest in both...? 

What does the universal education in 'decision theory' achieve: making people legible to gods, giving them a path to grow up into the kinds of entity that can cooperate with gods.

(but Keltham didn't think that dath ilan had gods)

(but Carissa thought that could be the point of the history-concealing, that dath ilan did have gods, and wanted to shut them out) 

(but if you wanted to prevent gods from affecting your civilization, to do the better smarter more thorough version of what it turns out he's been trying to do all along with the Eastern Empire and failed at, then why would it help for your citizens to be painstakingly taught to be more legible to those gods -) 

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And it's suddenly clear (though his mind is still flagging that this is only one possible explanation among many). 

A clever strategic leader might both of those things, if their goal was to build a more human-aligned god, while avoiding interference from an existing set of gods that could see through and work through every mortal alive. 

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That's brilliant and, if it's true, he's incredibly impressed that they pulled it off. 

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Aaaaand he should actually communicate this to Carissa. Ideally while he still time left on Owl's Wisdom, but he didn't think to ask for time-markers from her and he has very little idea. 

"Carissa, I have a hypothesis about what dath ilan is doing and why - how much time left on the spell -?" 

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"Three minutes." She should learn Extend Spell, if she's the only wizard in the world; it's going to get annoying otherwise.

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(Altarrin is, again, not going to know what she's thinking unless she communicates it out loud to him. He badly misses previous lifetimes when he had his own Thoughtsensing Gift, right now, though mostly because having projective Mindspeech would make it feel much easier to communicate his current thoughts to Carissa.) 

"Right. So - this is obviously only one way of putting together the fragments we know, it might be obviously wrong to you since you know more than I do, but I think we should both remember that neither of us knows enough to be confident -

- Having noted that. It seems that dath ilan invested very heavily in training all of their people, starting from early childhood, to be - more legible to gods and more able to cooperate with gods, which inevitably involves being more able to cooperate with other mortals. And, separately, they screened off all information about their history before a certain point. That must have been an enormous sacrifice even for a very wealthy civilization. And...observably they do not have a problem with - with dissidents and rebellions. So it seems those forces balance out, but both would require significant ongoing resource investments." 

(He still doesn't want to use the word 'heresy', it's too strongly tinged by religion and gods.) 

"The obvious -" pause, "- at least, one potential obvious explanation, is that the Keepers are dealing with some existing, less-than-ideal god or gods, and are working on building a new god, more aligned with mortal interests. And so they need their populace to be - prepared to work with that god - but they also need to hide all of their activities from the current gods. If their pre-existing gods had Foresight or something equivalent, I think that screening off all historical information, as well as concealing the project's existence from the general population, would be enough to protect them. ...Enough, but not overkill, whereas it seems excessive for any other goal I can imagine."   

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" - huh. 

That might be it. We threw the idea around, but lacking prophecy in our own world, we didn't make the connection that the history-screening would suffice to protect against it. I still don't see exactly how."

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"I am not sure it would actually work, or be sufficient, or whether it would be the best solution for minimizing cost while maximizing effectiveness - I suspect that calculation relies on specifics of their world that neither of us know - but, in my own experience, at least in hindsight, banning active worshippers of any gods substantially reduced Their disruptions, and further excluding knowledge of the gods, even among people who hated Them, had additional benefits."

He stops. Frowns. (Tries to think faster, because he's about to become much less able to think at all.)

"- I was never able to go further than that, in practice, but. From what I understand, or at least my guesses, of how Foresight works, it leans heavily on - accessible causal history. Even deep within the Empire, our gods can still nudge events, but I suspect this is because They have prior information. And that if we burned all of the books," (MISERY AND HORROR), "and raised a new generation without any of that background, in an area that the gods could already see and affect less - then I think that would leave Them even more blind." 

(This is the point at which Owl's Wisdom runs out, and he's suddenly even more exhausted - and he feels helpless, in a way that cannot possibly be strategic-)

Sigh. 

"Probably. I - would not previously have thought it could possibly be worth the cost." 

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"I don't like what it made dath ilan, but it was - very wealthy, very safe. They even let people read their banned books! They had special banned bookstores for them, and called them just 'ill-advised' books. Mostly, of course, they shaped people to not want to read them, but they must've been very sure of their shaping, to allow that."

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"....Huh." 

Mostly what he's thinking right now is that he hates it. 

(And yet it's not worse than anything he's seen in the last seven hundred years in Velgarth)

Dath ilan's leadership is more competent, sure. He wishes his people (or he himself) could be that competent - and he still doesn't fully understand what dath ilan was doing differently, and it seems important, knowing how to succeed at a project on the level of "destroying all records of history", whether or not it's a good strategy, it's at least a good - test of a civilization's tactical skills - 

 

 

(He wants to read all of dath ilan's banned books, which is perhaps one of the most pointless desires he's ever had.) 

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"Well, it seems that I could learn a great deal from dath ilan - whether I agree with their general ethical philosophy or not, and I suspect I would not. But - whatever you remember, I think it could be potentially valuable for solving the problems we face here." 

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"I took very good notes. I can walk you through it starting today, if you want, if we're safe here - are we safe here?"

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Altarrin starts to answer, and then stops and actually thinks about it. 

(This would have been way smoother if he still has the WIS-enhancement, but he's trying not to get into the habit of - framing it such that his real self is the WIS-enhanced version, that seems like an unhelpful direction.) 

"...I am quite confident that we will be safe here for at least a day or two, if all we are doing is thinking. My sense is that the gods do not respond quickly even to threats that show up clearly in Foresight - which I am not sure this would, as long as we are only thinking and talking, and not making plans or passing messages to anyone else - and we are rather hard to access here via any of the less expensive-god-intervention methods that involve working through Their followers. I suppose They could still cause an earthquake, but given my Gate-reaction-times and your general resistance to injury, I expect we could survive even that." 

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"Am I harder to injure than a powerful spellcaster generally is, here?"

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"It appears so? I had been guessing it was something to do with innate shielding, but of a type that was not clearly visible to mage-Sight. You were not obviously shielded when I took down your - I am not sure what you call it - the concealment spell that made you appear as though you were an air-elemental? - but you were not injured nearly as badly as we expected. ...Also my Healers told me that your life-force was unusually bright and vibrant, I was especially unsure what to make of that, but - it seemed to point in the same direction, that you are somehow unusually resilient." 

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"I'm almost a fifth circle caster. I am, at home, about as resilient as that implies, which is - much more than a commoner, certainly. In dath ilan no one was particularly resilient, it was like they were all commoners from how Keltham described it."

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"I see." Again, he looks animated and alive and like this might be one of the most interesting conversations he's had in the last century. "...I think this is another of the differences between our worlds that I expected we would continue to encounter! Our magic does not work that way at all. Healers are more physically resilient, and of course mages are harder to injure in the first place, but - it sounds as though your world has something separate from that?" 

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"Keltham was going to study it and probably figure it out, before - before we damaged him too badly to really believe in truth at all. The fact it shows up to your 'healing-sight' as 'life-force' is interesting. You get more of it through using magic, if you're a caster, in dangerous situations, with your life at risk. I also made some progress while my life wasn't at risk I was just being tortured a lot."

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....Now is not the time to ask questions about the part where she was tortured. It's - not even particularly new information. 

 

It's probably also not - 

- no, actually, that does seem important. 

 

"...I apologize, I - suspect you find this hard to talk about when it is so recent,"

like he finds it hard to talk about the Cataclysm, not that it was recent at all, it was seven hundred years ago and Carissa's experience was within the last month,

"- But. What did you do to Keltham, who was raised in dath ilan, to - to cause him to stop believing in things being true as a concept? That - if I am right about how dath ilan trains their children, that ought be incredibly hard to do?" 

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" - I mean hopefully he won't be like that forever but we lied to him comprehensively about almost every feature of the world he lived in, for months, and concealed what Hell was like for him, and then when he tried to leave manufactured a fake escape that would've kept him in our power. So. It makes sense, that he was very very damaged, by the end."

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"- I am noticing that this thought seems questionable, and might be obviously wrong if I still had the Owl's Wisdom enhancement, but - on some level I think I would handle that better? As - even as someone who did not grow up in dath ilan and did not learn any of their 'decision theory' from anyone else, and had to figure it out on my own - 

 

"- I suppose I would not necessarily have handled it better, overall, in my first lifetime. I would have handled it differently but that is not even an interesting claim." 

 

(And Carissa's description feels off and - incomplete - maybe if he still had Owl's Wisdom he would be able to pin down how or why. Obviously some of the how-and-why is that Carissa's relationship with Keltham, and the ending to it, were deeply traumatic for her, but - he doesn't understand enough to back out what she would really mean in the absence of that...) 

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"I would take a different angle if I were in charge of seducing you, yes. I think - most people would've been harmed differently from how Keltham was. But I could've predicted how it'd hit him if I'd thought about it."

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Nod. (It's not a priority right now to ask her what angle she would take, if she were seducing him, though if he had Thoughtsensing in this body he would absolutely be reading her mind about it.) 

"- That makes sense. I think this was a digression, anyway - I had asked you to explain what you learned from Keltham, you said you had notes, but you wanted to know if we were safe here and I explained my current sense of our safety. If you have further questions about safety, I can answer them, but otherwise I do still want to hear what you learned from Keltham," 

His body language is noticeably more closed-off than it was a few seconds ago. 

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"I can start with that." And she pulls out her notebook and starts with the first day's lecture notes. It is, actually, emotionally difficult, rereading them, but this is important. 

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"Dath ilan approached it from a weird angle, but the first lesson is just - there is, out there, an actual fact of the matter of how the world works, separate from what you believe, separate from what you're supposed to believe, separate from what everyone else believes. Some things are true. Some things are true everywhere, across all possible worlds, they aren't the kind of thing that could be false, like that if A implies B and A, then B - does your world have formal mathematical logic as a field, Golarion did but none of us had studied it..."

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Altarrin listens. 

(He can tell that Carissa is finding it stressful and difficult. The why isn't obvious just from her face and body language, but - in context it's not exactly confusing.)

...Okay, sure, both of those things are true and also in no way new information for him! 

He nods, though. "It exists as a field of study, yes, and not even among the ones I personally invented! I think it was taught in Urtho's Tower when I studied there." He frowns, thoughtful. "I - think most people do know the first part, on some level, in some part of themselves? People understood it more deeply immediately after the Cataclysm, when - when almost every choice was a struggle for survival - I think that most people are more aligned with themselves, hiding less from themselves, in those circumstances. When there is no space for it. But - most people will not learn on their own how to be careful and precise and consistent in their thinking, to keep those distinctions in mind all of the time. It sounds like dath ilan tries to train that kind of internal consistency?" 

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"Keltham wasn't sure which parts are just obvious and which reflect errors that people importantly make so he said all the obvious things too.

I noticed that too, that people are more coherent at the Worldwound, where there's only so much you can lie to yourself if you don't want to be eaten by demons. Compared to at the palace, where it was - mostly nonsense, people playing stupid games that didn't matter....

Keltham would say that only Keepers fully master internal consistency but that even children who aren't trying at it are better than Golarionites."

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"...I suppose it could be less that situations of real adversity train the skills, and just that everyone who did not have enough of them to begin with dies, and - all the formal logic taught at Urtho's Tower did not actually make Urtho's students and colleagues deceive themselves less or play fewer pointless games than - than illiterate subsistence farmers living one day at a time in the ruins of civilization. I have been trying to fully master internal consistency for seven hundred years and I think I am still not all the way there; the Owl's Wisdom spell makes that especially obvious. If dath ilan knows how to guide people to that level of skill - even if only a few especially brilliant people - in an ordinary human lifetime– at least, I am assuming you would have mentioned if dath ilan had immortality... Anyway, what else does dath ilan say that people get wrong without this training?" 

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"Do you want to skip ahead, I don't know if the pace of the lectures is an important ingredient. But there was a proof that, uh, if your wants are incoherent in various ways that they probably are, then in principle you'd be willing to make trades that undo previous trades you were willing to do, and end up with less of everything. You can want whatever you want, there's no Law there, but there's Law about how you have to trade things off."

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"I have that concept. It is rather important to have if you are going to - make very large-scale, very ruthless plans and you need to be right about when certain tradeoffs are worthwhile. It took me a long time, though. I...am not sure anyone even had that concept Urtho's Tower, let alone the mental habits to enact it, which I am honestly still working on. The Cataclysm might not have happened if more of the people involved had understood it..." He shakes himself, slightly, as though trying to shed the memory. "Anyway, we might be able to skip ahead - can you just go through a list of concepts that came up in the lectures, and then I can note which of them I recognize at all - and which of them I have the skills to do right in practice, which is a separate concern." 

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" - yeah." And she closes her eyes and goes through the lectures in her head, reading concepts out. Some math that'd underlie the later lectures. Cooperation games. Utility functions. How to split gains from trade in an Abadaran way. How dath ilan runs prediction-markets. Chemistry, and the way that you could learn chemistry, if you landed somewhere where it looked different. How to improve an industrial process when you don't understand it very well. 

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Altarrin nods along. 

It's - surprisingly familiar? The exact format and framing is alien, sometimes bizarrely so, but it's an almost-automatic mental motion, to try to look past and through that – to guess at the process, the society, that created these concepts and shaped a standard curriculum and taught it to an ordinary (by their standards) young person, not because they knew what would happen next, but because they considered it the very basics of how to think, how to live in the world as a thinking being among other thinking beings...

Prediction markets are an excellent idea! It's the kind of concept that feels blatantly obvious in hindsight, like he must have been blind not to have seen it himself, but it's not the first time Altarrin has had that experience, and it's not actually surprising to him that he didn't independently reinvent the idea in the aftermath of the Cataclysm.

(An entire world of people mostly like him might have, but that's not the world he lives in, is it.) 

Utility functions: none of the building blocks are new to him, and he thinks he's nudged up against the concept before in his own thinking, but the sudden relevance of it hits unexpectedly hard. Because it's exactly the sort of thing you have to get absolutely right, if you've just realized that actually the gods of your world are an insurmountable obstacle, and you need to meet them on their level, which means somehow, some way, putting everything that actually matters about mortal lives into terms a god can understand.... 

Altarrin doesn't feel like his current self is smart enough to figure that out. 

The cooperations games, as she explains them, are– it's not that the idea of it doesn't make sense to him, because it does, and it's almost a familiar way of thinking. Almost. The difference is...hard to pin down, and oddly painful to think about. He makes a mental note of that. Maybe he can work it out better with an Owl's Wisdom, later. 

Chemistry is interesting. Processes to understand chemistry in a new and different world are especially interesting. Industrial processes: highly approved. None of that hurts to listen to. 

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"...I am very curious about the leaders and scholars of dath ilan, who came up with these ideas and decided they were the right ones to teach to children," he says, finally, once Carissa seems to be done speaking. "I am - surprised by how much of it immediately makes sense to me, but - it would not, for most children raised in the Empire. Whatever their world is doing - regardless of their reasons for it, and whether I would approve of them - I apparently cannot match it." 

Which isn't an observation he's used to making. Urtho was in many ways his intellectual superior, but no one else has been like Urtho. 

(At least, no one who lived long enough to grow into it...) 

And he wasn't exactly trying to do whatever dath ilan is doing. The plans and goals that shaped the education system he built were shorter-term, more narrowly focused, and without Owl's Wisdom it's hard to even think about whether that was a mistake all along. 

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"They're run by the Keepers. They also have a government, but - they rehearse to overthrow the government if it's unjust, they changed the government when they sealed their history. It's the Keepers who have real power, it has to be. They're also very smart on average, and the Keepers are even smarter. I don't know what, exactly, they built dath ilan for, but - I think Keltham would agree that they had some purpose in mind, that they were hiding something, maybe hiding the  gods..."

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They rehearse to overthrow the government??? 

That's a good idea a useful policy if you're aiming for - some sort of goal - he's not actually sure what goal it serves, probably because he has none of the surrounding context. 

"I...suspect their 'Keepers' are much smarter than I am, then," he admits. (And their ordinary, maybe-moderately-clever citizens, exposed to that leadership, could keep up with him without difficulty. He doesn't say that out loud.)

"But my understanding is that they do not have your world's kind of intelligence-enhancing magic, so there must be another explanation - the obvious route would be incentivizing clever parents to have more children, increasing that trait in the population over time," a long time, but dath ilan is clearly a society built by people who thought on long timescales, "- but that would require a reliable way to measure the trait they are selecting for."

Which seems much more difficult than checking whether a child has mage-potential or not. Altarrin wonders– actually, he's guessing that Carissa's world does have a way to measure the mental traits they call 'Cunning' and 'Wisdom', using their magic. Which dath ilan doesn't have - or doesn't claim to have...

"- Was Keltham aware of a test to measure - general cleverness?" he asks. 

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"I think so? They knew about how much smarter they were than average, they did lots and lots of testing and betting, and they definitely did encourage clever people having children, as well as people who had other traits they wanted. It seemed very sensible. I really liked hearing about it, at first."

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"It does seem sensible! I would have done the same myself, probably, if I had a way to measure cleverness as reliable as testing for mage-gift potential–"

He stops. Frowns, slightly. 

"- though I am still not sure to what extent our programs for increasing the rate of mage-potential in the population had unintended side effects, and intelligence seems like - a broader trait, that correlates more with other traits. You said 'at first' - do you think that dath ilan had their own set of unintended effects from this effort...?" 

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"I'm not sure. They also might just have been - different from the start - and it might be Golarion that got optimized in a bad direction, Keltham thought so - 

- but he wants to destroy the world, any dath ilani would. And - and they didn't have people who like suffering as long as you're a little gentle about it, he was unfamiliar with the whole idea. And - I -" She shouldn't say she loved him, that's never a wise thing to say to a man about another one. "I am not sure how many of the things that seemed wonderful to me about him were real and how much I was lying to myself because I was doing a lot of lying to myself."

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Several parts of that statement were confusing. Maybe if he had an Owl's Wisdom it doesn't actually seem like a good idea to get in the habit of leaning on that mental crutch at all, let alone putting off thinking about entire topics until later because of it. 

He's confused about the pause in the middle. There's clearly something significant to Carissa, and he can't quite pin it down. 

He isn't sure what she means by "people who like suffering as long as you're a little gentle about it" - who exactly is doing the being-gentle? And it's not as though he likes suffering - or likes anyone else suffering - it's just that sometimes it's a cost worth paying (and one that is, of course, always, much simpler a decision if he can pay it himself...) 

More relevantly, he is still very confused about dath ilan. 

"...It seems important to understand why - according to Keltham, at least - any dath ilani would destroy your world, and presumably mine as well. Almost everything else from what Keltham taught you made sense to me, but that part very much does not." 

(He doesn't ask why she was lying to herself. He does want to know, but he doesn't actually think they have enough trust, yet, that he can expect an honest answer. And he guesses it won't be a new answer, anyway. Altarrin is uncomfortably familiar with all the reasons why people in his own empire are often better off if they can lie to themselves in the right ways.) 

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"....because of Hell. Lawful Evil people, when they die, go to Hell, where they get made into devils, and the process takes a long time and is very painful, and some people are worthless and are used only as building materials and never get to be devils at all."

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"- Which I - imagine you think is still better than the situation here, where the dead most likely do not go on to have experiences at all, unless one of our gods wishes to use them as a tool." She had reacted so strongly to that. "Do you think that dath ilanis would prefer our world to yours, on that dimension?" 

He has other questions, and 'some people are worthless and are used only as building materials' seems....worrying, at the very least...but that can wait. 

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"...I think not, I think they'd rather stop existing. They....honestly they don't seem to like existing very much? They often freeze themselves in the hopes that a future civilization will be worth living in, because theirs isn't. 

Hell is - well, I was planning to do something about it. But it's much much better than just being...extinguished..."

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"...My sense was that Asmodeus is not managing it in a way I would approve of."

Altarrin isn't sure, at this point, how much of that came from anything Carissa said, as opposed to his Thoughtsensers - usually he could track that but things have been happening very fast - and he thinks she was expecting the Thoughtsensers anyway, and wouldn't consider it a betrayal. 

"But, yes. The difference is that the people in your world's Hell are still there, for you - or the you who was left behind in your world - to take back." 

Pause. 

"...Damaged, maybe, and - it is not that uncommon that people in our world will prefer death over ongoing pain," even if this makes no sense to him. "I - could understand if someone wanted to destroy Hell, specifically - if they thought it was better for Lawful Evil souls to cease to exist rather than exist under Asmodeus' control - but Hell is only one of many afterlives, which come after living a full life as a mortal, and - if I could choose to be born into your world or never to have existed, I would definitely choose the first one."

He takes a deep breath. "- And dath ilan as described does....not have any obvious awful problems that can compare to Hell, or even to what the living go through in Velgarth. If their citizens still often prefer not to exist," he's mentally skimming over the 'freezing themselves' part, it's fascinating but not the main point right now, "then - I think either they are very different from the people I have known, or their world is horrifying in ways that Keltham was not willing to speak of even to you." 

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"We mindread him, I don't think he was hiding something he knew about. And they didn't think freezing themselves was permanently dying, just - being petrified to be woken when things were better. But - yes, it did seem like they were different from us, and... yes, you understand, it's partially that Hell is better than not existing, which people disagree about, and partially that getting to be born, even if you might go to Hell, is obviously better than not existing, especially since you don't have to be Lawful Evil - except in Cheliax, which is a problem, but I was going to fix that along the way to fixing Hell."

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Altarrin's expression when she says 'we mindread him' is very faintly approving.

"That does seem like a difference. I am - definitely confused, but I am not sure it is a priority, or even possible to resolve while we have no access to either Keltham or dath ilan." And he is still very unsure that he would initiate contact with dath ilan even if he discovered how to Gate there tonight. 

"- Do you know anything more about why they thought freezing themselves was - a route by which they could be revived later?" (He is assuming that 'petrified' is a spell that exists in Carissa's world and not here.) 

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"...the Keepers and prediction markets said it would work. I think they thought - since they don't have souls - it's all in the mind, so if you store the mind, you have everything there is about the person, and can someday reconstruct them from that."

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"...That is fascinating. I am genuinely curious if that would work here - we do have souls, but they are not the full content of a mind, and - it is possible to magically breed a new sentient species–"  

Altarrin manages to stop himself. 

"- Anyway. We do still need to make a decision on whether to return to the Empire and operate from there, or - something else."

And he doesn't have a clear sense of which option is better; his mind is still reeling from the mind-enhancing spells experience and the realizations involved, and it's still vaguely painful to think about the Eastern Empire at all though he could still manage it with an Owl's Wisdom or two

"- I realize you still have very little context on our world, but you also have fewer pre-assumptions, so - what do you think we should do next?" 

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"I had rather assumed the empire was the best place from which to build industrial capacity, since it's rich and you're powerful there, and - forgive me - that we could kill the Emperor if he was going to get in the way, what with how I can make magic items that are unlike anything your world can create or recognize."

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"It is not–" 

And he has to stop to actually consider it, for a moment. 

"It is - plausibly the best place in the short to medium-term, given its existing infrastructure, and - yes, I am powerful there, and familiar with its systems," having built most of them himself, "and having your help will - shift the balance of power. That being said, it is not a good place to work without being observed - and that will mean being observed by our local gods, sooner or later, even if I have cut off most of their avenues of influence.

"I suppose it depends somewhat on how certain you are that your industry-building processes will work immediately and be scalable, which - well, that depends on whether your kind of magic can be learned by our mages. Or our un-Gifted scholars, which would be even better. If you think we can build up this industrial capacity in less than - thirty to fifty years - and if we agree that is the right thing to focus on next, then I suspect it makes sense to work from the Empire." 

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"....I think I can do it in thirty to fifty years easily. Keltham would have said 'how about I do it in one year.' And he didn't teach me everything he knew, but - if people here can become wizards, and if you can refine spellsilver using your own magic, then I can get the magic-item-assembly-line set up and try to figure out the industrial process for fertilizer, that was on our to-do list and it's the kind of thing alchemy's very good for."

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He has possibly - definitely - not conveyed to her all of their actual constraints. Maybe because half of them are ones he put together yesterday, and still hasn't integrated into his own models of the world. 

"....I am concerned that will not work here the way it would have in Golarion. I - the Empire is mostly outside the reach of our world's gods, by design, but only mostly. I think They will see it, if we - begin the process that Keltham taught you - and I am not certain that They will object, it is different magic than the kind that nearly destroyed our world and it sounds like much of it is not magical at all - but I still expect we will run into interference." 

Sigh. "The Eastern Empire is definitely the only place with any kind of existing, functional infrastructure, where I expect we could do this at all. But it might still be better to...go somewhere very far away, maybe even the other continent on our world - where the local gods may be less inclined to halt any kind of progress, magical or otherwise." 

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"I don't know much about operating somewhere with prophecy or whether any clever ways to muddle it actually work. A god noninterference zone is definitely what you want if you can get it."

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"...I am not sure if that is something we can get. I am– I put together a number of pieces when you cast Owl's Wisdom for me yesterday, including - that the gods are going to be our greatest obstacle here. Somehow I had not - fully noticed that, before."

Maybe because it's terrifying.

"I am still not sure how many of those insights are true, I have not had much opportunity to check. But - I should try to explain it to you, if we are going to work together on this." 

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Altarrin isn't sure what he said that's causing her to make that particular expression, and without Thoughtsensing he has no way of finding out. It probably doesn't matter. Maybe she will react badly, maybe - though it seems unlikely, given everything he knows about her - she'll be angry. But he does need her help, especially if he wants to find a way to not have to take the path that he saw, yesterday, while enhanced. (He hopes he remembers it clearly enough to explain coherently; it's going to be embarrassing if the parts of it he can convey don't actually make sense to Carissa.) 

Also, he apparently very badly doesn't want to talk about it, but that's even less of a reason to put this off. 

"The Empire is never going to be what I wanted to build, even if we get it to dath ilan's level of industry combined with their predictability and social control - I do not, actually, want to build dath ilan, not as you described it. If we try, the gods will either prevent us entirely, or twist it so that it serves Their goals as well, and I do not much like their goals. And, of course, we have the problem of lacking an afterlife, and we have your world's demonstration that it is possible, but I doubt our gods are motivated to imitate that." 

Altarrin takes a deep breath. Lets it out. 

"- So we need a god. On our side. The reason why I - saw so quickly what dath ilan might be doing - is because I was already planning to do it myself, here. It will take a very long time, because it is very important to get it right. We probably will need the industrial capacity we can build with dath ilan's knowledge, because - it will take power, as well as - having the structure right - and the only way I can think of to power it is with lives. I did the math. Five million lives for blood-magic at the lowest. It might be five hundred million, and I am not sure there are that many people alive on this planet, yet. ...I think there is a good chance we could get them back, or at least send them to a pleasant afterlife, once we had a cooperative god. But not for certain. I...am not very happy about this plan and would prefer something better." 

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"Why - why would it cost that much - people ascend, in Golarion, and it's not - it does require eating an existing god, can you just do that?"

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So his guess was right. Hearing it confirmed brings a flicker of hope - if Carissa's wizardry works here, maybe so do other options - but for some reason, most of all what he feels is very, very tired. He would feel a lot more hopeful if he put higher odds that they could ever find Golarion again. 

Also: eating an existing god??? He isn't even sure what that would mean, magically speaking. 

Altarrin sighs. "I am not sure how it works with your magic, but I doubt our gods are the sort of entity one can meaningfully eat. Maybe - I hope - there is a way I am not seeing, and that seems more likely with your magic. It might have taken me decades of study to derive this way, if not for your intelligence-enhancing magic. But I would like to hear everything you know - to start, is it only existing people who can ascend, and how much of themselves do they keep intact? I need to research this further, but it might be safer not to start with a human, since...well, at least the non-dath ilanis among us are not known for our internal coherence and stability over long time periods."  

...It would be fascinating if that exact reason is part of why dath ilan tries so hard to teach the things it does. Not that Altarrin expects he'll ever be able to confirm it for himself. 

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"If you figured it out starting from a human you'd get to be a god, though." And she explains everything she knows about ascension. There are probably multiple ways of doing it; you probably keep at least some of your human attributes, though obviously you don't keep everything and though most stories of ascension might be expected to overstate how much the humans who became gods were, as humans, exemplars of the traits they ended up being gods of. "Also Cheliax censors all this, so I don't have wildly reliable information." 

 

Gods can be killed; gods, when killed, leave some kind of magical residue; people have ascended through contact with it, and a rat once ascended through literally eating it; some people think that's why the Starstone causes ascension, the gods who died trying to prevent it from destroying the world.

It does seem like having human-descended gods is useful in that they can use more of humans than the not-human-descended gods can.

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Altarrin takes detailed notes. He has a number of questions on technical details, but Carissa may not actually have those answers, and besides this isn’t an emergency. It can wait until he has a Cunning enhancement of his own (which seems more relevant to this in particular than Wisdom.)

He has additional questions about the rat god! What does a rat god do? Was it that easy for a rat to accidentally end up eating god-residue, because presumably it wasn’t on purpose…

”- I would also like to hear more about the once-human gods. How they compare to the rest - and what traits they are described as having in their mortal lives, even if the records may not be perfectly accurate.”

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"- Cheliax tried quite hard, I think, to make sure we didn't know too much about gods other than Asmodeus. I know Irori picked me, for some reason, and bargained with Asmodeus for me to not sell my soul. I think Iomedae's people are very into fighting Evil, and that Norgorber lives in Axis because it's nicer even though He's Neutral Evil - Neutral Evil is the worst. I was planning to deal with them too. But what they were like when they were alive - people do know that, it's in their holy books. just don't know it."

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Which makes sense, of course. Altarrin doesn't like it, but there's no point being frustrated. (He is for a moment anyway.) 

"I am not surprised." And he looks deeply unhappy for an instant. "I have tried to conceal all information about the gods from the Empire's people as well. For...different reasons, but..." He trails off, unsure what accusation he's trying to defend himself against, or why. 

"Anyway. I...am surprised a god is the kind of entity that - can choose to dislike the afterlife of their alignment and still be that alignment. What is so terrible about Neutral Evil?" 

(He remembers Carissa noting that they "eat souls", but is not entirely clear on what that means.) 

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" - they raise people to kill them and eat their souls!!"

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.....And now he's confused again. 

"- They raise living mortals there, in the afterlife plane? And kill them, still there, and have access to their souls to consume? ....I am not sure this is important, but I am confused about how your planar mechanics work such that this is feasible at all." 

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"When people die, their souls generally go through the river of souls to judgment, but in Abaddon they stop them from getting that far, as I understand it. There aren't living mortals in most of the afterlives, but they're not - impossible to make habitable or anything, adventurers go there sometimes."

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Altarrin nods. He isn't entirely un-confused, but - it's probably not the top priority to figure out next. 

 

"...Anyway. The constraints on carrying out any large-scale plan within the Eastern Empire are that it is - well, corrupt in some ways, though I am not sure that is a useful label here. It certainly has momentum, in a direction that is not one I would have chosen if I had full control, and - I suspect the degree to which its most talented people end up dedicating their life's work to navigating political intrigues is, perhaps, an equilibrium that our world's gods nudged toward. It is - an unstable system that nonetheless, on a higher level, will be more predictable in the long run?"

That thought made sense while on Owl's Wisdom. Altarrin isn't sure it came out nearly as coherent in words as it feels in his head. 

"I think we may not wish to carry out all of our plans there. But - in the short run, it has infrastructure and resources. I know how to navigate its politics," however much he dislikes it, "and you seem sufficiently prepared to learn. I predict that in the longer run, we may need more independence from the gods and from systems that They shaped, but I suppose we can wait and see." 

He waits for Carissa's response. 

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"Fine with me. I don't know how to navigate its politics, and am not protected from your world's mindreading; do I stay in your rooms?"

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"- Even un-Gifted people can learn to shield against Thoughtsensing," he says, almost immediately. "I am told that you actually have some degree of native shielding, albeit one that a strong and trained Thoughtsenser can work around. I think you should learn to shield, and I can explain how, though unfortunately I cannot test you on it since I lack the Gift myself. In the meantime, if you did need to leave my rooms, there are mage-talismans to block Thoughtsensing, and I suspect I can devise a story for why I have given you one." 

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"Right. If it can be learned I bet I can learn it quickly, and - well, I actually don't know anything about places other than Cheliax but in Cheliax no one would think it was strange if I were confined to your rooms."

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"It would not in general be considered strange here, either." Altarrin is faintly unhappy about this (and does not especially try to hide this.) "To the extent that anyone will be curious, it is because I personally have not made a habit of that with the people I have historically brought to my bedchamber." 

He sighs, slightly. 

"I am not going to be able to cover all of it now, but I think I ought at least try to explain the political dynamics and answer your questions? Exactly how this affects you is going to depend what my ostensible allies, and my enemies, have inferred about you, which I will know more about soon. But. I am curious what observations you have made so far, and what are you still confused or uncertain about?"

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"Were the books real? They - mostly cohered, they mostly described a place that seemed like it could exist. I couldn't follow why there was a taboo around 'blood magic', does it involve something secretly horrible?"

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"...What sort of not-real are you imagining? They - are not going to be perfectly accurate, and often their inaccuracies will be motivated, but -"

Oh, right, she's probably thinking of whatever Cheliax did to Keltham that caused him to stop believing in things being true as a concept. Altarrin manages to keep his wince purely internal. 

"- but they are not a strategic, comprehensive attempt by a specific political faction to present the version of history most advantageous to their goals. ...For what it is worth, I probably wrote some of them, though you would have to remind me which titles you were given." 

Pause. 

"There are a number of reasons why blood-magic is considered taboo. It involves killing people, and as I have noted, we do not - yet - have afterlives like your world's. It damages the flows of magic in the environment, particularly when wielded by unskilled mages. It also - shifts the incentives in a situation? In war, if using enemy soldiers for blood-magic is legal, it incentivizes killing them rather than taking prisoners. Personally, I recognize all of these costs, and still think it worthwhile to use blood-magic in controlled situations where they do not apply, but - it makes sense to me that many societies choose differently. Does that help?" 

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"I guess it's - really unfortunate if there are powerful incentives for people to kill prisoners instead of taking slaves. 

- more important for me to understand, probably, is who your rivals are, what they want, what will draw the attention of the gods, what'll make the Emperor conclude you're overthrowing him -"

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"...I am not really working from a usual position in this system, given how I am - overall less worried about taking risks that might get me killed, since I come back. I do have rivals, in the sense of actors or factions opposed to my current policy decisions; that is mostly going to be complicated and high-context to explain, and also my new goals are going to be very different. I think it makes more sense to - take a step back, and try to describe the overall political system. ...I will guess at what will draw the gods' attention afterward." 

Pause. 

"- I assume this was covered in the history books we gave you, but it is perhaps even more true in recent decades. The Empire runs very heavily on the fact that everybody in important positions is under multiple mage-compulsions. Under the current regime, the universal top-level compulsion that supercedes the others - at least at high enough levels in the chain of command for personally-loyal mages to be checking - is for loyalty to the Empire as a civilization, not the Emperor as a person. Inconveniently, the interpersonal-level incentives there seem to mean that whenever I am not around for long enough, it reverses, which is much worse for civil wars and such. 

"The major power bases here are the army, the nobility, the administration, and, well, the favorites of the Emperor. - There is also a mage-research department, which is currently going very well and allows some space for brilliant researchers with no talent for politics, but I do need to exert ongoing effort to maintain that, and - part of that effort is making sure that they do not try to directly carry out political goals? In terms of the nobility, there is a fairly recent institution that binds them more directly to the Emperor; all noble children are required to attend the Hall of Learning in the capital, which of course leaves many opportunities for both compulsions and - careful education. 

"Many of the political challenges happen outside the capital. Military generals need autonomy to work effectively - and the Empire does require that of them, since we are at this point in a pattern of expansion - and generals or nobles very far from the capital are at some risk of figuring out how to break their compulsions, or having loyal subordinates break them for them. And, of course, being a house-mage for a general or a noble in a remote province is safer than being in the capital, for anyone who is not ambitious in seeking power. ...If you do wish to seek power, being sent away from the capital is very dangerous, since it massively reduces your influence there and means that your enemies can scheme against you uninterrupted.

"...There is an overall dynamic here that I would expect recurs in most countries. Anyone seeking political power will be aiming to expand their power base, including by placing their loyal allies in important positions. They will often wish to display evidence that their political enemies are incompetent and treacherous and should be stripped of their positions – and they will, of course, arrange to protect themselves from their rivals doing this to them. Given our current structure as an empire, proving one's loyalty to the Emperor and earning the Emperor's trust is paramount, here." 

 

(Altarrin is, at this point, looking and sounding deeply irritated about everything he's saying.) 

 

"- There is, unsurprisingly, a massive ongoing competition to claim those mages who are visibly both powerful and skilled at fine control, and who can thus modify the compulsions on anyone working for their enemies. At higher levels in the chain of command, the Emperor has mages personally loyal to him who can verify compulsions, but I am at this point quite sure that, in most of the local duchies and baronies, vast quantities of effort are going into stealthily modifying compulsions and placing backdoors. Not even for any immediate goal! Just because it might be useful later on.

"And, of course, anyone in an important position is - incentivized to find ways to increase their own power without violating their own compulsions, even when this requires a concerning degree of skill in deliberately not-thinking about the ramifications of an order." 

Sigh. 

 

Does Carissa seem to have questions? 

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"Am I under any compulsions beyond those I was informed of, right now?" She doesn't sound angry, just thoughtful.

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"- I had improvised additional compulsions because I panicked when you tried to contact various gods from your world, and may not have removed them perfectly carefully since I was under a great deal of stress, but they should still no longer be affecting you. Other than that, you ought not be - I certainly did not authorize anything - but I can check, if you wish. And if you trust me with that." 

A pause. 

"...I - would also remove the current ones, at least for the moment, as - an indication of trust, if that would help. Though it would be convenient for navigating the politics here if they were in place when we return." 

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" - it's useful to know what constraints I'm under, for planning, and obviously it's useful to be under fewer constraints, same reason, but I'm not distressed or insulted, and if you can operate more freely with more assurance I'll be - predictable to the gods and not-difficult and visibly to your rivals in my place, then it doesn't actually bother me. On some level I want to find out what not being Chelish would be like but it sounds like that can wait. Until I'm immortal, if necessary." Really, it feels safer to be a prisoner than not, and she should probably rethink that what with how it isn't necessarily correct. 

"I do trust you to be committed enough to this bit you won't drop it to hurt me in some incredibly trivial fashion." She meant that as more of a compliment than it came out as. 

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"- I am going to interpret that as meaning that you do not mind if I check for any additional compulsions that sneaked in." 

He checks. It takes about two seconds. "Nothing else. The standard compulsions for political prisoners are not to harm anyone, not to sabotage any infrastructure, and not to plan an escape. ...Also there is one to obey direct orders from anyone you believe to be representing the Empire, but I do trust you enough now to say that this one is very much not watertight. Compulsions toward taking a particular action, rather than banning a range of actions, are more difficult. And – well, I personally can generally find a great deal of leeway in the compulsion I usually have to serve the Empire, since I built it and in some sense know its true spirit better than anyone else." 

And he hesitates, again. 

 

"...I was considering whether to offer this earlier, and - figure that I should say it explicitly. If there is a spell you know that would let you read my mind, and - doing that would help you trust me - then I would consider that entirely worthwhile." 

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" - I have Detect Thoughts. I - guess I would like to do that, if you're inclined to let me. It'd be - useful to have more grounds for believing things." Though of course one obvious reason to let her is if he can fake it.

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(Altarrin predicts that she's going to expect him to be faking it, even though he's not actually sure how you would do that, not in a way that would be convincing to someone reading you while having a conversation. Not unless you were sufficiently smarter than them to believably simulate an entire layer of fake thoughts on the outside of your shields, that shifted and responded plausibly to the conversation, but in parallel with your actual hidden thoughts. There are artifacts that can do a crude version, but only with "recorded" thoughts replayed, and even to passive observation, they're repetitive and "thin", not convincing under close enough inspection.) 

"I expect giving you more grounds for believing things to be helpful to our ability to work together effectively," he says. "Do I need to do anything other than remove any shielding artifacts and take down my native shields?" 

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"I didn't prepare it, it seemed pretty unwise to be creative and dangerous and so on. I can prepare it now, in about half an hour, if you have other preparations to make in the meantime."

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Altarrin nods. "I do, in the long run, think that this will only work if you have space to be creative and dangerous - I expect I will need your judgement and planning and ambition, not only your magic. But I entirely agree that from your perspective, it is not very wise right now, and - it is on me to provide enough evidence that it is safe at least with me. I do have at least half an hour of other preparations to do." 

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"Make me immortal," she says flatly, calling her spellbook to her hands so she can prepare Detect Thoughts. "I don't know how anyone can be creative or dangerous when they might stop existing of it."

 

And she starts preparing spells.

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Sometimes, you need to take that risk, because the alternative is that everyone will stop existing but Altarrin is, in fact, in a much safer position than Carissa, here. Not safe, and he was less safe in the past, but - it's probably more relevant that not being dangerous was never a strategy that made him safer

 

He does in fact have a lot of preparation to do. Really he needs to be planning out how to navigate the politics of revealing Carissa's magical abilities, because they're not going to be able to take full advantage of the Empire's industrial capacity and infrastructure unless they bring a lot more skilled people in on the project, at which point it will be impossible to keep a. secret and it will, inevitably become a political project as well. 

...He's going to look at engineering notes first, though. Figure out what they're going to need to rapidly scale up 'spellsilver' production, that's almost certainly the first step - 

 

(- and in the back of his mind, he's musing on how to make Carissa immortal - can they safely-yet-reliably test her invisibility from the gods? Would using her magic for the process, maybe in concert with his, help in keeping their work hidden, lost in noise and blur?) 

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She prepares Detect Thoughts. Tries to detect the compulsions in her head, even though she's been told she can't. Obey direct orders from anyone you believe to be a representative of the Empire. So he could just say - trust me - what would it feel like, would she notice - has he said it - 

 

It's a bit of a pointless exercise. They have her, if they want her; if they're playing nice at all it's to waste less time on making her cooperate. And they don't have an afterlife and she does need to fix that. That's - enough for trust, really, when you think about it. 

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Altarrin will be sitting on a crate and using a stack of two crates as a desk, making a list of shorthand notes from three different engineering and mining-related treatises that he has open. His shields are, right now, still firmly in place, but he intermittently glances up to see if Carissa looks done with spell preparation and ready to read his mind. 

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She sends her spellbook off to safety in another plane. Turns to him. 

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...Altarrin nods, unsmiling, and lowers his shields, and waits. He's paying a lot of attention to what parse to him as the 'surfaces' of his mind, once his shields are down; he wants to see if he can notice Carissa's spell. 

- aside from that, there are multiple threads of thought in his mind, that he's sort of bouncing between.

 

He's been trying to figure out what he could think about that would give Carissa the most information. His internal framing of it, right now, is very much not 'convincing Carissa to trust him'. He has that skill, it's a mode he can operate in, but it's not one he likes - or considers himself especially skilled at - and, in particular, it's not something he does with potential allies. (The distinction makes perfect sense in his head. It's mostly below the surface of what Detect Thoughts can read, but there are hints, that Carissa might be able to pick up if she pays close attention. ...To Altarrin, the true goal in an ally is someone who he doesn't have to manipulate into taking the correct actions. And it's hard, obviously, because Altarrin is hundreds of years old, and he so often has experience and context that make it obvious how everyone around him is wrong. Which is a terrible footing to start off a working relationship, and - well, he wants to know the ways that he's wrong, and convincing someone to trust him - based on anything other than verifiable information and theories - is not a good way to achieve that.) 

 

He needs to figure out how to navigate the politics around Carissa's arrival and Carissa's abilities. So far, he's kept it fairly quiet. A number of people know that Carissa is from another world and has unknown magical capabilities, but they're either directly loyal to Altarrin or afraid to cross him. If he wants to draw on the logistical capacity of the Empire, though, then they need to bring more people in, and so this whole project will inevitably become political. (Internally, when Altarrin thinks that word/concept, it's almost a curse.) He would on some level prefer if Carissa could work directly with the mage-research division; he feels like it would be good for her, somehow, to spend more time with people who are trying to build things, trying to better understand reality, oblivious to whether or not their peers are scheming against them, whether their superiors consider them worth protecting -

(and, to be fair, the only reason they can afford that obliviousness is because Altarrin has spent precious time and social favors on it, but it's worth it, to have a pocket in the world where clever, creative people can focus on figuring out how things work and how to build something new and better...) 

 

He's still deeply confused about her world, on multiple levels, but particularly its magic and its gods. Especially the things she said about how humans can ascend to godhood. He still isn't sure whether or not that could work in Velgarth, even in principle, but figuring that out one way or another is obviously a top priority. He's been mulling on it, and he still can't see how their mechanisms could be mapped over to Velgarth's magic - actually, he's still pretty confused about it. Neither eating the residue from a dead god, nor Carissa's non-explanation of the "Starstone", give any particular hints about where the information comes from, to take a human mind and reshape it into a god-level-entity's mind, while still keeping its original value-structure intact - though, actually, he's not sure Carissa actually claimed that, just that human-derived gods could "use more" of humans than the more ancient nonhuman gods... 

 

He's curious about dath ilan. This is almost certainly a curiosity that he won't get to fulfill anytime soon, because the downside risk here is that dath ilan would decide to destroy all of Velgarth. But he still, on some level, desperately wants to learn more – about how and why their world developed the lessons that Keltham, an ordinary teenager stranded in another world, taught to Carissa, who then went on to explain it to him - and it felt almost like recognition, almost like being seen and understood, when he hadn't even been aiming for that...

 

....He's scared. This is not particularly a live thread of thought, in Altarrin's mind, but it's ever-present in the background. It's a fear that he's stared into the depths of, many times, and so if Carissa is paying attention, she can probably pick up some of its component pieces. Altarrin has always (almost always, but his thoughts bounce away from that brief interlude in Urtho's Tower, what little of it he remembers, and so Carissa isn't going to see even fragments of that) - he's always lived in a world hostile to his goals and values. A world that wanted to destroy him – at least since the Mage Storms, and he sees it, now, he gets it, what the gods of Velgarth are trying to protect, Owl's Wisdom is so useful for that – but he still can't talk to Them, not yet not until he burns millions of lives as fuel, even if he knows exactly what he would say... 

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She's not actually sure what she's looking for.


Yes, she is. She's looking for him to be so credibly safe and reliable and not-going-to-destroy-the-universe and interested-in-protecting-her-personally that she doesn't have to do any further thinking about what goals she was working towards and who she was working with. And she was never going to get that because that's not actually how anything works.

And she wasn't going to catch him in a lie, either, because he wouldn't have offered this if there were a way for that to happen. 

 

He's smart. He wants to pick a fight with the gods, and -

- well, she wants to hide away and not pick a fight with the gods, but she has to grant that if there aren't any afterlives then you do have to fix that. 

 

"Under what circumstances do you see yourself killing me?" she asks about as casually as one can possibly ask that.

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- what?

 

(Right, she's reading his mind, he doesn't need to carefully consider what words to say out loud - it's honestly such a relief...) 

Altarrin is having trouble even imagining a scenario where he would want to kill Carissa! Since, you know, she continues to be his only source of information on TWO other worlds, and also her magic (including the spell and her artifact that directly increase intelligence and other mental abilities!) apparently still work in Velgarth and so she has absurd comparative advantage at magic here - though, fair enough, that situation might not last, but - 

 

- but he doesn't kill his allies. (This is a mostly-atomic thought in Altarrin's mind, enough that it would be hard for Carissa to notice any of the pieces of it.) He is not, yet, sure that Carissa is his ally. He's more sure that he wants her as an ally, but - on the premise that his goals sufficiently match hers. Altarrin thinks that they do, but he's not sure, not yet. 

 

 

...No matter what else happens, though, Carissa is still valuable enough in expectation - and he's made a strong enough internal commitment to that investment - that he intends, quite strongly, to keep her alive. (Even if only to learn more about all of the things that Keltham said to her, since he can't safely try to contact dath ilan but he's so curious.)

And he'll do his best to make her immortal, one way or another. He has some ideas about that. He's vaguely musing on whether her magic is alien enough to the Velgarth gods that it would blind them even more, and so combining his and her magic could make this cheaper....

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If that's not good enough she doesn't know what would be. (She should've made predictions in advance, she can feel the impossibility of trying to assess properly if this is better or worse than she expected.)


"What odds do you give of that working. Of my becoming immortal and not dying, if I work with you."

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What a reasonable question to have! 

...He's going to have to think about that for a few seconds, a lot of the component pieces of that estimate have been hanging around in the back of his mind this whole time - it's important to figure out, for him personally and his goals, not just on Carissa's behalf - but it still takes some conscious thought to turn his attention fully toward it. 

 

So. He would normally not be optimistic about this? He would try anyway, obviously - he has the resources, now, it's not like 500 years ago, all the brilliant children he taught and then lost 

Given Carissa's magic, he - is maybe 80% confident he can figure out an immortality method for her in the next couple of years? Though he's more confident than that - hmm, say 95%, 19 out of 20 - that he can keep her alive for the next decade, whatever happens. And the more time they have, the more they can figure out something -

 

(and she won't be gone forever, not fully, no matter what not unless the gods manage to destroy him after all this time – because he will someday find a way to bring back whatever pieces still exist of the dead spirits in the spirit world) 

 

He can't promise her certainty, on becoming immortal and not dying. He doesn't even have certainty of that himself. 

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"Is there anyone who has better on offer?"

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...He's doubtful in general, and certainly doesn't know of anyone specific who she could seek out! There is the other continent. They would have been less affected by the Cataclysm.

(Altarrin is pretty sure that ships crossed the ocean and traded with them before the Mage Wars. He hasn't really invested in that since. He can scry that distance, using artifacts, but power trades off against finesse, and at least according to his memory of past-lifetime notes he read at the start of this incarnation, he hadn't managed to pick out any sign of a major magical civilization there.) 

 

Altarrin would, of course, want to help Carissa find other people who might make better offers. He's just...not sure where to look. 

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"Right. I guess I have lots of other questions but not ones I'd need mindreading about."


It feels like - not fully acknowledging, somehow, what he's trying to do. But she doesn't have the words to do that, somehow, and instead of admiration she's just full of a ridiculous intangible wanting for - if the world's going to be complicated, for it at least to be complicated in the way she knew and understood, to fix everything she did wrong and go to Keltham and have a chance at fixing everything else. 

She'll get over it.

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(Altarrin does not have Thoughtsensing and can't read her mind - and is also pretty distracted - and so has not particularly noticed what Carissa might want the world to be like.)

 

"- If you have more time left on Detect Thoughts, I - can do some magic and let you read my mind while I do that? Or whatever else you would find useful for - better understanding our world."

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"It'll last a while. I guess what I most urgently need is - names and faces, factions in the Emperor's court, what you know about the Emperor himself -"

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Good questions. And ones that may, in fact, be much easier to communicate via mindreading, especially if her mindreading works to pick up faces - which he assumes it does, based on the fact that she asked, Thoughtsensing does. Altarrin is distantly pleased.

- and then he's going to think very intently about the answers to those questions, to eke as much as they can out of these limited minutes (she didn't actually say how many minutes, inconveniently, he's trying to remember if they ever discussed the duration on her various magics and he can't.) 

 

The factions most relevant at court shift over time, as fortunes rise and fall. The factions most relevant to the Empire, less so, they're so much more tightly determined by the cold hard limits of resource constraints. (Based on the way Altarrin thinks about this, he pretty clearly sees it as a positive thing.) 

The main power bases are, predictably – and he sort of expects this to be predictable across worlds, he'll be interested if Carissa instead disagrees – the army, the nobility, the bureaucratic administration, and the (current) favorites of the (current) Emperor. The last one being, again very predictably, most subject to the whims of changing fortunes. 

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Right, names and faces. 

 

So the head representative of the army in court is, well, himself. It's a little more complicated than that; there's a high-level division between the chain of command for mages and for un-Gifted soldiers. There are head representatives of both sides at court:

General Astar, looks like this, head of the non-magical forces. Born to minor nobility, but did very well in his time at the Hall of Learning–

- brief mental pause, he's not sure if he explained that. Roughly, all the noble children in the entire Empire are fostered at court as children. It is, very obviously, a way to centralize the Emperor's control, in an Empire far too large for the Emperor, or even his mages directly loyal to him, to personally visit every duchy and barony regularly enough. It's...not a terrible place to grow up. And, well, not all noble houses are good places to grow up. Altarrin did well enough in the Hall of Learning, though being a thousand-year-old immortal mage stealing the body of a random mage-gifted blood descendant of Ma'ar (who he barely remembers being, but he is not having any feelings about that right now) probably helped. 

Anyway. General Astar, especially when you take into account his lack of any Gifts, did much better there, and managed to impress all of his teachers and earn the personal - not compulsion-driven - loyalty of many fellow students. If Altarrin had a single complaint about the man, it would be his sheer political-mindedness, sometimes coming at the expense of tracking basic logistical constraints, but - well, it makes sense given how he ended up where he is, and it's a necessary skill in a position like his. He's reliable at what he does, and not especially vindictive; he does manage the key basic skill of 'protecting and promoting competent subordinates', and he makes sure to personally knows enough about his subordinates' work that he can assess their performance. 

 

Mage-General Kottras, head of the mage divisions, looks like this. He...is, unfortunately, mostly a politically-motivated appointee, and not one where skill was taken as an important prerequisite. His qualifications are, one, being the younger brother of one of the Emperor's current favorites, two, having a measurably unusually powerful mage-gift, and three, being sufficiently skilled at the games of court to have many, many friends there. Which isn't entirely a bad thing. He, too, is a predictable man, in his own way. He prefers that his subordinates not send trouble his way, but is willing enough to throw gold at them if they promise they can spend it and make a minor unimportant problem, that he certainly shouldn't concern himself with, disappear forever. He is only vindictive about social slights, in the sphere of the Emperor's court; as far as Altarrin can tell, it would never occur to him that a report back to the capital, indirectly describing how a decision he signed off on two years ago led to unwanted consequences, was in any way personal. 

...He likes his women. Especially like mage-gifted women. Inconveniently, his department is also likely to be necessary to any large-scale engineering plans, and so Altarrin cannot rely on making sure that Carissa doesn't come to his attention at all. It's not urgent, though - he'll need to involve the administrative mage-engineering department well before he pulls in the military mages, and those two factions do not get along at all - and so he's still mulling on what to do. 

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Fostering all the nobility in your court is clever. She thinks it'd be hard to accumulate enough power to pull it off in the first place, but once you had - the thing about nobles is that since so much goes by birthrights they'd probably genuinely be dissuaded from rebelling by the fact it'll get their children executed, even though you'd think that no sensible person would have children if they cared that much about them. It's such a reasonable system. She bets Abrogail would be jealous.

 

She probably shouldn't care much what Mage-General Kottras wants, if he won't kill her, but she suspects that somewhere in the Conspiracy she did herself a stupid internal injury around sleeping with people when she doesn't want to and she needs to unravel that.

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(No interruptions from Carissa with questions? Moving on, then.) 


There are other relevant army factions. Most importantly, the leader of the supply-logistics department has a lot of implicit power - but Carissa isn't likely to encounter him face to face (though, in case she does, Major Effan and he looks like this). His is a position with far more implicit power than visibility or prestige; he has a house in the capital, but well away from the palace itself, and he's hardly ever there, he spends most of his time traveling via Gate-network inspecting their supply depots and personally checking in with his subordinates. Altarrin likes him. 

 

...Sigh. Here are the various nobles at court who Carissa probably will encounter if she spends any length of time there. They, too, are predictable in their own way (a way that Altarrin personally considers very tiresome). They are, generally, the sons of lords who weren't owed quite enough favors to obtain an official position for them in either the army or administration, or at least not enough to make up for a severe lack of either skills or interest in that. They spend most of their time trying to spy on each other and compulsion each other's servants toward that cause, presumably with the eventual goal of "proving" someone else's disloyalty to the Emperor, and thus themselves earning his favor and, if they're lucky, some material thank-you gifts. 

This is, incidentally, one of the potential routes of advancement open to a mage, and especially appealing to a mage of common birth but with sufficient talent to alter compulsions subtly. It's not one Altarrin would recommend, especially since it generally tends to result in being under an unusually complex and potentially-conflicting pile of compulsions oneself, and working for the sort of noble son who chooses to spend his time playing that particular game. But he's seen it work out for people, at least better than any of their realistic alternatives, and - well, it's easy for him to say, when he has so many more alternatives than they do...

- and, of course, the Emperor would really prefer that the most skilled mages end up personally loyal to him. Which is generally a good outcome for anyone who can attain it! (If they have the political skill to survive that attention, but– well, he'll get into that later.) And the current Emperor at the very least doesn't have any glaring vices that make this a regrettable choice. But, of course, not everyone can hope for that lofty perch. The issue is that being caught by one of the Emperor's people, carrying out that kind of political subterfuge for one of the court lords, is also not very good for one's career. 

(There is no sign in Altarrin's thoughts that by "not very good for one's career" he means torture followed by murder! Sometimes death is involved, but more likely the punishment includes being put under a very restrictive set of compulsions and sent off to be a house-mage for a particularly boring rural baron, one who the Emperor knows won't have any mages good enough to break those many-layered compulsions.) 

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Well, maybe that's why he has so much of a spying problem, not doing nearly enough torture and murder about it.

 

....Carissa thinks about the man caught spying on one of House Thrune, the one she had called to her so she could complain about her life to someone and then kill him, and feels - vaguely sick. It's the obvious way for any society to end up, it's inefficient to be any other way, but - she thinks she doesn't like it, actually. Maybe the Emperor doesn't either. ....and is weirdly sure that this weakness won't get him himself killed.

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The noble lords outside the capital are a more interesting case.

Carissa won't meet them - at least not by accident at court - but in some ways they hold far more power than the factions of the "nobility" that hold reign here in the capital. They may be approximately all under loyalty compulsions to Empire and Emperor, thanks to the Hall of Learning, but there's a reason why Altarrin pushed so hard to keep it in that order, even though there are apparently very strong underlying incentives that nudge it back toward the reverse anytime he's gone for any length of time. He knows well enough by direct experience how far you can push "loyalty to the Empire", if you keep in mind that your superiors are being complete idiots. Not far enough to assassinate the Emperor, of course - 

 

(You can still get pretty far by delegating, if you're skilled enough at avoiding thinking about things. But no matter how clever someone is, training the skill of 'carefully avoiding thinking about the results of your actions, so that you can slip things past your compulsions' is in tension with other relevant strategic skills, like 'understanding how the world works' or 'updating from your mistakes'. People do get frustratingly good at this strategically-not-thinking skill, and it leads to endless headaches in court politics, but...not more than that. If you're running an internal delusion on the premise that you'll be able to prove a subordinate or rival's incompetence to the Emperor alongside proving his disloyalty, you have to actually believe that they're incompetent. It's possible to lie to yourself skillfully enough to assassinate people, this way, but the rate of people assassinating the Emperor that way is...well. Low enough to be acceptable. In Altarrin's experience, there's a cost-benefit tradeoff in terms of precautions and paranoia, there, and it's not really worth the cost of getting it down all the way to zero.) 

 

- but, anyway, if you're a Duke or Baron in a remote landholding, and you last saw the Emperor face to face when you were sixteen years old, you can still get far enough, without any subterfuge at all, just by holding up your required loyalty to the Empire against the fact that the Emperor's most recent orders seem clearly misguided, and must be the result of some politically-motivated officer trying to slip it past his desk. 

(And, as best as Altarrin can tell right now, most of those Dukes and Barons do have a genuine abiding loyalty to the Empire. Or at least to its canal-Gate networks and magically-maintained weather, which is hard to disentangle, but - at least until someone starts trying to murder their family members - it's generally not the case that they would rather be anywhere else.) 

And they have the land, that bears crops year after year, or provides mineable metals to an ever-hungry Empire. They have their people, and - especially further out in the reaches of the Empire - most of those people aren't going to be under any compulsions from higher-ups. (Of course, basically every noble house, even the most minor rural ones, has at least one compulsioned spy, but you have to assume that they aren't stupid, and can easily work around this.)

 

Sometimes they form alliances between multiple landholdings. Which are a common source of rebellion, obviously, but doomed rebellions. A team of elite military mages can defeat almost arbitrary numbers of un-Gifted men, plus or minus a few less-skilled mages – and the Emperor doesn't even just have control of the army and its elite mages, he also has bigger arbitrary numbers of men. 

The ones who don't rebel are more interesting. In Altarrin's opinion, their local alliances are a lot of what keeps holding the Empire together, at this point. In ways that can be an ongoing headache to him, but still. 

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Most places have a problem where an elite guard competent to put down any possible rebellions is also possible to, well, remove you, but maybe compulsions fix that.

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(This is not especially in the top level of Altarrin's thoughts, but it's somewhere floating in the background. A good Emperor isn't relying entirely, or even mostly, on the compulsions. Or even just on personal loyalty, though that tends to be a bigger piece of the pie. A good Emperor - and the current Emperor isn't the best, but he's... adequate - makes sure that the top ranks of his military know the cost, in lives but maybe more importantly in money and food and dead highly-trained mages - of a civil war, particularly one resulting from the obvious murder of an Emperor. And if the Emperor does that, and also makes sure that the current regime isn't too unpleasant or randomly terrifying for his top leaders - if they know that they can count on his protection, if someone tries to have them falsely accused of betrayal, because the Emperor knows how hard it is to replace someone in their position - then it seems to mostly work out okay. Plus, of course, you don't make it to the top ranks of the military without being personally able to defend against compulsions and mindreading. General Astar, the un-Gifted commander here at court, is unusual in not being himself at least a Master-potential mage, but also remarkable in that he learned to block Thoughtsensing anyway by the time he was fourteen. 

...Though, you know, Altarrin isn't sure how much of that is reliant on him personally pushing against something deeper, because it does seem like every time he has another inconvenient death, there tends to be a much higher frequency of inconvenient, pointlessly wasteful civil wars.) 

 

The administration, then. 

Most of the major ministers are theoretically based in the capital. Carissa is unlikely to encounter them by accident - they're busy, even when they're not travelling - but he might want to plan meetings. 

The Minister of the Army is a political appointee. He's insufferable. He is also almost eighty, and despite the unusual longevity of mages, not carrying his years well (the decades of late-night drinking parties may have something to do with that, and he's not a powerful mage). Altarrin does approximately all of his job, and is in a comfortable rhythm, and he's pretty sure he can avoid Carissa ever having to come to his attention, though just in case, he looks like this. 

Minister of Agriculture: reasonably competent and very boring. Altarrin prefers it that way. He looks like this, but Carissa is very unlikely to encounter him, he doesn't like the palace and prefers to work from his nicely-appointed mansion with his wife and their half a dozen children and - if he recalls correctly - first grandchild born last spring and next one arriving soon. 

Minister of Trade: risen from the ranks of the merchant class, very competent, looks like this. He's young and ambitious, and spends a great deal of time traveling on 'inspections', but Altarrin's current understanding is that he's courting a certain highborn potential wife. Carissa is unlikely to run into him. 

 

And the list goes on. 

(The Minister of Cargo Transport is a deceptively sweet-faced man in his sixties who's had at least two rivals assassinated, but is likely to ignore Carissa entirely even if he learns of her magic, he's at best a weak Master-level mage himself and insecure about it. The Minister of Education is a once-brilliant mage, now aged 110, who is definitely far from senile but is starting to have less energy for day to day politics, though no one will dare to have him conveniently assassinated yet, he made a favorable impression on the Emperor during the Emperor's boyhood. The Minister of Engineering is an odious political appointee, but at least not a micromanager; he delegated nearly all of his day to day work to his subordinates, and spends his time on an estate just outside the capital....) 

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It's all very soothing, in a way. Helpful, without the slightest game to it which she can see even in his thoughts. She landed on the right person, in what was definitely not a coincidence. 

 

The Detect Thoughts runs out. She says so, in case he can't see it. 

" - thank you, my lord."

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He blinks. 

"- Right. I think I had not covered all of your questions? I was going to try to convey more about the current Emperor's favorites, which of course involves telling you more about the Emperor himself - and maybe more about which factions have relatively more power in the capital at this point, if that is not already clear to you...?" 

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" - not entirely clear, I think. I could guess but it'd be a bad thing to guess wrongly about. But you'll have to speak aloud; I didn't prepare the spell twice. I, uh, rather presumed that once you made your point you'd want me out of your head."

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"...I do generally prefer that, yes." 

(And, now that she's out of his head, he can go ahead and let himself think about how desperately he wishes that he had Thoughtsensing in this body, just so that he could directly, in real time, know what she was thinking right now.) 

"I will try to explain in a moment, then - I do think it will take more effort and consideration to convey in spoken words, and I confess that once I had let you into my head anyway, it was a relief to have that be easier. But I am curious to hear, first, while it is fresh – did reading my mind affect your trust in me? ...Also I am curious what if anything surprised you, that seemed like a cultural difference between our worlds, it might be useful to know for explaining things to you out loud." 

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"I think it mostly made sense. Abrogail - the Queen of Cheliax - couldn't get away with making all the nobles send their children to her to foster, I don't think, she'd surely do it if she could. I don't understand why you don't execute spies, beyond squeamishness. You'd probably have less of a spying problem. I'm not...entirely clear on the legal status of mages" and by extension Carissas. "Are they free? Do they come work here by choice?"

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He nods, seeming to immediately understand the gist of her question. 

"They are not slaves," he says. "Though no one in the Empire is entirely free, and mages are more likely than most to be, well, beholden to someone. The benefit of being a mage is that you are useful to the Empire, and so executing mages in factional disputes does not make good long-term policy, and is something I discourage – with more or less success, but right now I think mages are not especially at risk only for being in the wrong place at the wrong time. The downside is, of course, that mages are useful to just about anyone, and so there is more competition over them, and it is harder to live a safe, boring life below anyone's notice." 

A fractional sigh. "I will not claim that everyone who works in the capital chose to do so freely. Mages who wish to remain below the Emperor's notice can often succeed at this, but it helps to have the protection of a local noble, and the local nobility is...variable. Rural duchies and baronies have more space for independence. Their Dukes and Barons attended the Hall of Learning as children and had their loyalties shaped there, and are of course under the standard compulsions, but one can push 'loyalty to the Empire' rather far, both in directions I approve of, and ones I very much do not. Being house-mage to a corrupt rural Baron is not ideal, but I would not call it slavery – legally speaking, mages are free to choose their employment, and practically speaking the loyalty-compulsions to one's current employer are the main limitation. But a clever person can work around that, and in most cases - aside from the top-level loyalty compulsions to the Empire and Emperor - that is entirely legal." 

A slight quirk of his lips. "Mages do have the advantage of being able to see the compulsions we are under, up to the limit of our training and skill. I am not sure if this is something you can replicate with your magic, and relying on my report of it obviously relies on trusting me." 

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"I don't exactly see why you'd bother lying, but we can see them and probably with time and practice learn to read them."

 

She does not think she understands the distinction he's drawing between slaves and mages. Slaves cannot legally leave, but may be able; mages can legally leave, but are not able unless the person who did their compulsions was incompetent? It's not that it's an unimportant distinction, but - she does not especially take much comfort in it. 

 

"I assume I shouldn't explain that I'm from another world? Can we assert that I'm just from faraway and they have advanced magic item manufacture there?"

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(Altarrin was not especially expecting her to find it reassuring. It's not a reassuring situation and he doesn't like it. He thinks he can make it work, in this case - he can generally make things work out with the mage-research division - but she should know what the risks are. And he doesn't have a particular reason to lie, she's accurately noticing that, but verifying it with Detect Thoughts would get expensive.) 

"I think we should prepare a story with more detail than that - I am still thinking through the details - but yes, I think we can claim that. We could say that you have a Wild Gift to explain it - there are Gifts that occur only as one-offs, rather than matching to any of the known ones." 

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"Understood." 

She feels suddenly desperately lonely, which she is definitely going to conceal to the best of her abilities.

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(Altarrin isn't particularly trying to read her concealed emotions, and might not succeed even if he was; he has centuries of practice, but often he could fall back on Thoughtsensing, and Cheliax trains people to a different and higher standard than the one he's used to. And loneliness isn't exactly something that would stand out to him as a fixable problem. He's been lonely for most of the last seven hundred years. It generally didn't get in his way.) 

...He's worried, though, and right now he feels very tired. And - scared, in a way that he's not sure makes sense. He can work with what he has, here. It's better than any of his previous options. Their backup option - fleeing the Empire entirely, with whoever's loyalty he can still call on, and carrying out Carissa's project on their own, on neutral territory far from the attention of any gods - is a tenable one, and anything that goes wrong will probably still let them do that. 

 

He sighs, slightly, and then collects the map from his piled-crates desk and spreads it out in front of Carissa. 

"We should decide what general region you claim to be from - ideally somewhere distant enough that none of the nobles will have trade contacts there to check our story against, but too distant will be interesting and might prompt someone to investigate. The Haighlei Empire, on the far western coast of the continent, is unfortunately not very plausible given their traditions around mage-craft, and the western interior is mostly uninhabitable." He frowns at her. "...I think we should not try to pass you off as Tayledras, though it would make it difficult to check your story. And we have too much trade interaction with Iftel. We could claim you are from one of the city-states near the southeastern coast. We know they have schools of mage-craft there that remember some of the traditions from before the Cataclysm, and can assume there are other more secretive schools, so we could claim you are from one of those and it would be difficult to check. At which point we just need an explanation for how you ended up in the Emperor's palace." 

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"Do you in fact have any explanation for that, I don't know how that it happened except that - from my perspective I should've expected it to do so somehow."

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"I do not have a satisfying explanation! The mechanism is unclear - it did trigger a magical alarm, but not one I recognized, and having seen more of your magic since, I think it was not exactly a spell. I have even more questions about why, because it seems - convenient, that you arrived in my office at this particular time. It seems like a situation that some power optimized for...something, I am not sure what." 

Shrug. "For our current purposes, we just need a story to tell, and so we should decide if we are claiming that this happened by coincidence, as the result of a magical accident, or if someone powerful sent you here deliberately. Where 'here' might just be the Emperor's palace, I think we could still claim that whose office you landed it was coincidental." 

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"No one's going to buy that it's a coincidence. I don't buy that. I don't know why anyone would've sent me to the Emperor's palace, though. It doesn't make sense as an assassination attempt or a favor. - do you travel? Could I have tried to do a cross-continent Teleport to you, is that the kind of thing this magic system can do?"

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"I am known to travel, including to unspecified destinations. Cross-continent Gates aimed at specific people, rather than known destinations, are not a generally-taught technique, but it is possible to Gate to a destination that someone shared with Mindspeech. And we can claim that you have a non-Gate alternative technique relying on a Wild Gift - though, can you actually teleport several thousand miles? If you cannot replicate it then we should claim that a more powerful instructor did it, either on your request or to dispatch you on a mission." 

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"I could probably design an item that can do it. Can't do it without an item yet."

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"Would it be plausible that you traveled here using an item that was left behind in transit? Either one you had designed, or one that your hypothetical secretive mage-school possessed." 

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"Yeah, the easiest version I could do would be single-use."

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"I think that explanation works, then. And - we probably do not have to actually explain your reasons for coming here, but we should at least decide the general outline of it. Clearly I was not expecting you, and it is simplest to say I did not recognize you, though we could maybe claim I met you before in my travels and you were disguised by illusion. But we should decide if you were seeking out the Empire or fleeing some danger. The version closest to the truth would be that you had plans for a major magical project, and knew that the Empire had the resources you would need to carry it out?" 

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"Seems right. And I was in some kind of danger at home, worse than I anticipated from teleporting into a foreign empire - regime change, probably -"

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"Someone might actually check our claim of a recent government regime change in one of the relevant city-states, but we could say that your mage-school had a change in leadership and the new leader disapproved of your research?" 

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"If people die about that? It seems like with compulsions and no afterlives you might end up very unwilling to kill people, and it seems like a stretch to say that an emergency teleport into your lap was an improvement on getting fired."

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"...People in general will definitely take on a nontrivial risk of death to avoid being under compulsions to the wrong person, whether or not that is reasonable, and - people are certainly are less averse to killing than I would prefer. I do think something would have to go quite wrong for leadership turnover in a mage-school to kill anyone, but I would believe that it happens, especially if someone saw your unusual magical abilities as a threat to their power." 

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Why would people take on a nontrivial risk of death with no afterlife to avoid being compulsioned to the wrong person????

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Nod. "Will your translation magic allow you to speak the language there, if it comes up? ...Actually, I am not sure what we should say about your ability to sometimes understand our language and other times not - it is not completely implausible as a Wild Gift, but Gifts are not generally so discretely time-limited." 

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"- if I prepare spells for this constraint I can speak it most of my waking hours. That might just be the best thing to do here; it's not like I'll want to be using my third-circle spells conspicuously anyway."

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"I think not, no. They are very conspicuous to mage-sight even when the effects are not as visible. Are any of your more powerful spells necessary for crafting magic items, or is that separate?" 

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"Separate. When I craft it'll also probably look weird to your Detect Magic, but that can be the - Wild Gift."

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Altarrin nods. "People will certainly try to watch you and replicate it. Which I suspect is not doable with mage-gift, but - actually, what are the prerequisites in your world for learning wizardry? If there actually were a way to imitate it with local magic, we could scale this project faster." 

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"Anyone smart enough - and certainly anyone you'd find notably clever is smart enough -- can learn to be a wizard. It takes months to years to get anywhere with it, but people do get there. It'd - make it pretty clear the magic's from another world, though, it's really nothing like yours."

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....He should have asked that question much earlier. It's clearly incredibly important – maybe one of the most important aspects here, second only to the bare fact of Carissa with her alien magic appearing here at all – if they can teach other people how to do this, even if none of them are as good as Carissa is, then they can scale... 

(If she's right that intelligence is the only prerequisite. It still might be the case that anyone from her world can learn it if they're smart enough, and that people from his world can't. They should test that.) 

- And, of course, they can't scale very far without making it incredibly obvious, including to his political enemies. It's a very frustrating constraint. (Especially since some of those 'enemies' wouldn't be, he thinks, if they had met under less adversarial circumstances...) 

 

"Noted," Altarrin says quietly. "I think that probably we should not open with teaching your magic widely, since you are right that it would draw too much attention. But if mages - or non-mages - here can learn it, that would be very important for future planning purposes, and - might be a reason to break with the Empire sooner so that we can operate with less interference." 

Pause. 

"- Would you be willing to try to teach me? It need not be right now, necessarily, if it would take a long time to run that test, but it would be useful to know whether existing Gifts and experience with them - and mage-sight in particular - helps to learn it more quickly." 

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please don't kill me even once you know enough you could reconstruct the rest...

 

She isn't pathetic. She just smiles. "If you'd like. Unless Gifts help a lot it would take weeks to months, so perhaps not right now, but when we have the time." 

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Altarrin doesn't feel that practiced at reading Carissa's body language, and isn't sure if she's actually tense or if he's looking at noise and seeing a signal that isn't really there, but either way he's not inclined to push it. He very badly wishes he knew what she was thinking right now. 

(Also he's registering a quiet internal prediction that if it turns out he can learn her magic at all, it definitely won't take weeks.) 

 

"That makes sense, and - this is definitely not urgent. In the meantime, our story is that you are from one of the southeastern minor city-states, were a student at a secretive mage-school, and have a Wild Gift that gives you language-translation abilities, and - maybe we should claim a separate Wild Gift for creating one-time-use artifacts to imitate known mage-techniques? Since I think our mage-scholars would find it less believable that you have a single Gift that can do both. I realize that does not cover everything you can actually do, but are there any other spells you would need to cast in un-shielded locations?" 

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"Can I claim the language-translation comes from one of the imitation-items? And I don't expect I'll have to cast more spells, but if I do, hey, I imitated a lot of items from my secretive mage-school."

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"- Hmm. That might work? We should have some 'items' on-hand that show up to mage-sight that you can be holding when you cast spells, but I think that is sufficient, your magic looks strange enough that - at least given the fact that I have made an obvious claim on you," and he ducks his head briefly, makes a faintly apologetic face, "no one will ask further questions."

Pause.

"If that seems workable, I can prepare some 'items' fairly quickly - I am guessing you would rather not use up your spells on it? I know artifact techniques that no one in the Empire would recognize, I can make things that at least surface-level resemble your other magic items. Unless you have a better idea?" 

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"- no, that sounds good." She's baffled that he seems - what emotion is that even - like there's something there that gives him pause - 

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Then they can pick out a tiny city-state on the map! Altarrin ends up suggesting Aksell – a small but unusually densely-settled polity, landbound, only a few hundred miles south of the current Eastern Empire's borders, but separated by enough stateless territory mainly settled by nomadic tribes that the Empire has no particular trade relationship with it. If anyone gets curious enough to check the court archives, the records mention Aksell as having a number of semi-secretive mage-schools, and with a reputation that (to Eastern Empire sensibilities) hints at the existence of more genuinely-secret schools. 

Relative to the Eastern Empire, it's a very religious place, with a couple of different competing temple orders. Altarrin very much doubts that anyone would think to ask Carissa which god she worshipped, and even if they did she could claim that her particular mage-school wasn't affiliated, but if she wants to be definitely prepared for questions, she should probably have some kind of opinion on the main orders? 

The most popular one, according to his most-recent 150-year-old records, worships Anraethae, who - like Vkandis - is a fire-associated god, but who seems overall less interventionist, and definitely less violently so. There are a lot of philosophical texts about the purifying nature of fire, including (one assumes metaphorically) in a spiritual sense. Their priests believe strongly in redemption, for any beings including the more intelligent types of Abyssal demons. Altarrin's notes mentioned, via a second-hand rumor, that the order possesses a particular mage-ritual that can bind even the most powerful elemental and Abyssal entities into vulnerable material-plane bodies, so that the temple priests can work with them and convince them to repent.

...To be clear, Altarrin isn't sure this ritual exists, though it sounds feasible in theory, and he has no idea if this has ever actually happened and somewhat doubts it. It sounds like a very questionable idea. 

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"- sure. I - I won't be drawing that god's attention if I say I follow them or anything?"

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"No. Especially because we are very far outside of Anraethae's territorial remit, but - I think even if you were in Aksell, our world's gods do not have enough attention, or even the right sensory capacities, to notice when or where mortals mention them. Are your world's gods able to notice that?" 

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"I don't think so, but it might depend on the god. And - I don't know how much of what they told us in Cheliax was true. A lot of gods noticed what we were doing to Keltham, but they were - paying extra attention, I assume. Anraethae. From the description it could be Sarenrae but I don't know if She operates here. ...or if Her followers here have an afterlife, which is what's important."

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Altarrin goes very still. 

 

 

"- That would potentially be very important, if true," he says after a long moment. "I - would assume that if one of your world's gods can access Velgarth, all of them can, even if some do not prioritize it." A slight frown. "I am not sure how to test it safely and - without attracting Sarenrae's attention in the case where you are right. Do you have any ideas?" 

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"....not really? I don't know much about her. ....she smote a city once and her folliowers admit it though it's really weird behavior for a Good god, usually they're all 'ohhh, I can't kill people even if it advances my interests, that'd be mean!' ...they went to Hell. At least in Cheliax's telling of it. If She has a holy book here I could look for similarities."

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Another frown. "I have not heard Anraethae to have done that exactly, but - I would not say it rules out that Anraethae and Sarenrae are the same god. ...Anraethae is generally referred to as male, but I am not sure what gender even corresponds to, for gods, so cannot say that rules it out either. Anyway, I will locate holy texts for you - and it may be worth having you read the holy texts of orders that worship other gods as well, in case there are other obvious correspondents - but it may have to wait until tomorrow, I do not have any in this records cache and certainly the court libraries will not have them." 

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- nod. "It's also possible that it is Sarenrae in some sense but She still isn't getting her followers to Nirvana. Also I don't even want Nirvana except in comparison to the local mess."

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Nod. 

"Is there anything else we ought go over before I Gate us back? I can take ten minutes to make you some imitation magical artifacts, but I am concerned that the longer we delay, the more likely it becomes that someone will be suspicious." 

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"I don't think I have further important questions."

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"All right. Ten minutes, then. I will need to concentrate. ...Please avoid touching anything that appears magical, not everything is safe for a non-mage." 

 

 

...This doesn't actually require his full attention, once he's gotten started. Altarrin has quite a lot of practice at watching people without appearing to do so, and gauging what he can from their body language. Carissa is incredibly hard to read, but Altarrin is still going to try to pick up what he can when she's left undisturbed.

(He so badly wants to know what she's thinking - and he isn't going to find out. Unless he decides to ask her permission to have one of his trusted Thoughtsensers read her, but he expects that to be alarming and frightening for her, even if she feels that of course he can do anything he has the power to do, and he doesn't currently feel that knowing exactly what she's thinking is important enough to justify that. He's trying to ally with her; he isn't going to have her mind read without asking.

Besides, given what they've spoken about, he isn't sure that he trusts any of his Thoughtsensers that far.) 

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Carissa is totally assuming she's being mindread! She doesn't mind. She doesn't think she's hiding something from herself as big as 'Asmodeus is a sucky god'. She really wants to not die. She doesn't think she'll be threatening to Altarrin.

 

She's going to sit here not touching anything and try to make sense of him.  His puzzling expression on acknowledging that, his having laid a claim to her, no one will interfere - he'd rather his adversaries be more sophisticated?  No, that's not quite right. He seems - displeased with his empire, in various respects, he wanted it to be Good but that's not how the world works. ...he wanted it to be dath ilan but without the blowing up other universes, that feels closer. He wanted to build dath ilan and feels faintly embarrassed he has this instead, never mind that Carissa personally feels safer here than in dath ilan.

She understands this place. It works the way places are supposed to work.

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Altarrin can't get any detail on that just from glancing at her expressions and body language out of the corner of his eye! He can tell that she's slightly tense, but - less than before, he thinks? She seems less disoriented; like someone who has a plan, like she's found a surface to stand on even if she isn't very confident in its ongoing solidity under her. 

(While he's casting, he holds very still, and looks very focused, his face expressionless.) 

He finishes a couple of sham artifacts in just over ten minutes. Metal instead of the more usual quartz or other precious stones, he used some random previously-non-magical rings for the base – they're not the right metal, he didn't have any samples of that here, so it definitely won't pass a close inspection by a metalworking-specialist mage, but even specialist mages won't know how to directly run magic through it to check, like Carissa does, and it should pass for a brief glance.

The patterns of trapped mage-energy he's thrown on won't actually do anything; each piece is roughly just a weirdly "shaped" power storage component that isn't actually hooked to a Velgarth-style set-spell. It doesn't look that much like Carissa's spells or her magic items, he can't figure out how to feed mage-energy in a way that actually stabilizes like that and so he's faking it, but he's done his best to make it resemble the elegant stable-loops structure of her magic - about as complicated as the language-translation spell, though otherwise not matching it very closely - and overpowered it until it looks about as 'bright' to mage-sight as the least powerful of her current magic items. 

He shifts his weight and stretches, mostly to give Carissa some warning that he's finished; she's jumpy, for very understandable reasons, and he would rather not startle her if he can avoid it. Then he stands, and crosses the room to offer the two fake-magic rings to her. "How does this look? It will definitely not be convincing to you, or to close inspection by an expert mage; I think for now we should just avoid having you 'use' them when in the company of expert mages. We might be able to avoid needing them at all, if we can arrange for you to refresh spells while in my room." 

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"That's my intent, but it's good to have something for emergencies. Thank you." She examines them with Detect Magic. They don't look like they could possibly work but her understanding is that all her spells look that way, to the locals, and vice versa. 

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(Well, Altarrin is pretty sure that with enough study, it would be obvious to him why Carissa's spells and items are stable and can be discharged at will, and maybe even why they have the effects they do. But he thinks that these might have slipped past his own past self, when he was rushed and distracted, and Altarrin is, by a significant margin, the most skilled and thoroughly trained mage in the world right now. He thinks it should get by for now. It doesn't have to be convincing forever.) 

He nods. "Ready to Gate back? We need not leave my rooms immediately, necessarily, but at least if someone tries to contact me, I will be where I am supposed to be." 

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She nods and takes his hand without thinking, that being how to share a Teleport in her own magic system.

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....That is not how Gates work, but Altarrin doesn't need both hands to raise one (he doesn't really need gestures as a concentration-aid at all, with the level of practice he's accumulated.) 

He raises a Gate. 

 

 

 

 

And then they're back in his bedroom suite. It's been a little over two hours, Altarrin thinks, and it looks exactly like it did when they left. The shields are, at a glance, intact. 

Altarrin almost immediately heads to the bed and sits down, with enough dignity that it doesn't much look like he's collapsing in exhaustion. ...And then, despite the tickle of a reaction-headache (two long-distance Gates, one of them an emergency unscaffolded Gate and correspondingly less efficient, is enough to tire him), he examines the wards and shields and various even subtler tripwires and passive detection-webs set up to notice interference. Most are set to trigger alarms that will alert him directly if anyone tries to enter his bedroom by force (and the servants know not to attempt it.) It's not impossible that some of the mages at court are skilled enough to have bypassed that, but he should still be able to catch signs of it after the fact. 

"I am almost certain that no one has been in here," he says after a minute or so. "Not that there would have been much to find if they had, but it would tell us that someone was investigating more closely." Shrug. "I assume you are more than ready for the challenge of acting as though we slept together, though you can decide how exactly you want to play it." 

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"I don't think I'll raise suspicion, no, and I can be consistent with how I'd have taken it in case anyone read my mind while I was brought here.You have some kind of shield I can employ while I'm learning to block mindreading?"

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Altarrin isn’t incredibly in the mood to stand up. He can unlock magical locks and dispel wards on his storage-cabinet from a distance.

“Over there - left side, the second drawer. Should have my spare talismans against Thoughtsensing. It - will not be the first time I have given one out, but it is less common - your unusual “Wild Gift” would explain it, if I were being secretive, but might prompt more curiosity, so…should consider if I wish to instead act as though you have found some kind of leverage and extracted a favor, I think that is at least less suspicious than pretending I have suddenly become sentimental and fallen deeply in love…” 

His expression is so tired, in a way that has nothing to do with Gate-exhaustion. 

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This isn't actually something Carissa's good at, court politics, but it's something she certainly aspires to be good at and respects others' talent in, and it doesn't bother her at all because she does not wish this place was dath ilan. "You can have one of my Wild-Gift artifacts, suggest we traded, or does that invite too much curiosity?"

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"- Oh, that would be believable enough. Are there any you are actually comfortable parting with?" 

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"Not happily, but I'll manage without the Ring of Sustenance, or you could make a fake one I'll replace with a real one as soon as I have the spellsilver. ...I'm not trained in rings. As soon as I have the spellsilver and a couple days to figure out rings, it can't be hard."

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Frown. "I am not going to manage a fake that will pass more than a cursory inspection, and while I can keep you away from my mages with expertise in artifact-making work, it would be both costly and suspicious to avoid them myself. But - am I remembering correctly that the ring will not actually work for me? It seems - wasteful, as well as very costly to you." 

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"The pin, maybe?" She's even more protective of her ability to lie to people than her ability to go without food and with less sleep, but it's probably pointless anyway with the mindreading. "The pin'll work for you."

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(Well, she won't be mindread without her knowledge, she has the shield. And she's an excellent actress. Altarrin thinks that maybe the pressure to learn to lie convincingly is even higher in Cheliax than in the Eastern Empire.) 

"That would be an option." He eyes it. "Is it also something you can make a replacement for? And it will work again for you immediately if I return it? If it comes up, I could arrange to give it to you for anything especially high-stakes, and avoid anyone who would recognize a fake." 

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"I can make a replacement, I invented it in the first place. - the spell doesn't settle, wizards can't prepare it, so people figured you couldn't do it in an artifact even though that's different." It is probably a good idea to brag a little, lest he get ideas about the ease of replacing her once he has some wizards.

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Which earns her a smile - brief, and tired, but genuine. "That is impressive, even if it perhaps speaks poorly of the other artifact-makers in your world that nobody thought to check their assumptions. - Unless it is common for powerful wizards to develop techniques and then keep them secret, that could also explain it." He nods. "I think this trade would be the best option to minimize suspicion." 

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She hands him her pin. "I think I can answer questions convincingly, then, if no one's reading my mind."

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And she can have the talisman against Thoughtsensing! "Nobody will be especially suspicious if you tend to be terse, and - you have a language spell that only does comprehension, right? I would somewhat prefer to reserve the full translation spell for smaller meetings with engineering experts, so it would not be suspicious at all if any larger occasions where you appear were ones where you were unable to speak. And it fits well with how we intuitively expect Gifts to work, I think, passive Thoughtsensing is much cheaper than Mindspeaking someone without the Gift." 

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"That should work. I can keep comprehension up more or less all day, anyway, and I can't speak all day. 

 

Summarizing, so you can correct my errors before they're costlier: I'm from a secretive mage-school in Aksell, I have a Wild Gift that lets me make unique magic items, when my mage school suffered a violent takeover I Gated to the Empire using one of my items because I thought they'd permit me to continue my magic research. I also know how to use my items to understand, but not to speak, the local language, and I have a few more on hand the uses of which I will refuse to specify. I traded you one of my unique items for protection from Thoughtsensing. I'm your political prisoner, mostly confined to your chambers, and at least for the time recovering from my ordeal and not doing much interesting. - and we're sleeping together."

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He listens intently. Looks thoughtful. 

...Nods, but makes a bit of a face, at the last bit. It's not quite the same apology-head-duck as before; it's flatter, more tired and sad. 

"Note that I may want you to have the full comprehension-and-speaking version at some points," he says. "In private, but with people who I do not trust with the entire truth. I - would select for people who will keep uninteresting secrets, if incentivized to do so, and it would not be very suspicious to claim that you can use your Wild Gift, at higher cost, to create a shorter-lasting but more powerful translation effect, and that I am reserving this for important and trustworthy people only."

Altarrin pauses. 

 

 

(He's thinking that obviously making full use of Carissa's actual magical abilities, and even moreso her engineering knowledge from dath ilan, will require working with people who are fully in on the secret. There are enough people whose loyalties he trusts - and not just loyalties, being personally loyal isn't enough for something like this, but there are still enough people whose reasoning ability he trusts as well. And it's not enough, not to maintain a secret like this for longer than weeks to months, even if they make the incredibly costly tradeoff of not using any of what they learn from her at a larger scale. There are very few people who meet all the criteria of personal loyalty to Altarrin plus the necessary curiosity and general reasoning style, and sufficient political adroitness and existing political allies to avoid being mindread or compulsioned by a – he still doesn't want to call them enemies – a non-ally.

He doesn't want to say all of that to Carissa, just yet, because she's scared, and at least some of that is for reasons that don't apply here - whatever its failures, the Eastern Empire isn't Cheliax - and he may not be incredibly skilled at this game, but he's managed to notice that a scared Carissa is a Carissa who tries to be small, and - she's from a world with afterlives, arriving in a world without them, she's under enough pressure already... 

He's still mildly frustrated with the part where they have to pretend to be sleeping together. Moreso than usual. He's not sure why.) 

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He made the face again. Why'd he make the face again. Does it fit with the pattern of previous faces? This feels like an opportunity to test her 'he is embarrassed his empire isn't dath ilan' theory, which is an important one to test because her life depends on this relationship right here and Altarrin needs to make sense.


"If you'll forgive me, my lord," she says, already missing the Glibness pin, "I get the sense that you would much sooner have shown me an Empire where a man can't corner a woman into sex even if he's the second most powerful person in the Empire and she committed a capital crime in his living room, and - well, firstly, it is possible to build places like that but it's so expensive, so much of you would've gone into that rather than anything else, including probably things that are a lot more important specifically for the cause of women not getting cornered, if you care about that in particular! I feel almost as if I landed on a road used by three wagons a day and you're embarrassed it isn't paved - that's probably the product of the correct decisions about which roads to pave! I promise I'm not evaluating your hospitality by whether you expended a lot of resources on something not very useful and I'd probably be judging you if you had.

 

- and secondly, even if you were as rich as dath ilan and accordingly had all the roads paved and it made perfect sense to have configured your entire society so there's no one in Civilization who can corner a girl no matter what she did - and that's what Keltham would say it's like in dath ilan, I suspect - well, probably that's objectively better for most people or something but I personally would be perfectly miserable about it, so if you're wishing on my behalf that's what you'd built you'd better wish it on behalf of other people instead because I like places like this and I like games like this, if only there were some goddamned afterlives so everything didn't have unreasonable stakes."

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....Wow. There's a lot to unpack there. Altarrin is sort of wishing he had the headband again, just to keep track of all the different layers of things to unpack. 

He also feels very tired. 

 

"I would, in fact, prefer an Empire where everyone felt safe. I realize that - powerful men having leverage over less-powerful women that they can convert into sexual favors - is not even the worst way in which people are unsafe in Empire as it is now. I am very strongly against the dynamic where men in general can assume they have that power over women in general, because that pattern is very bad for mage-productivity and team research given that half of our mages are female, so it is actually costly to my goals, and I think the Empire is much better on this front than many other places - but, you are right, building a culture where someone in my position would not have significant leverage over someone in your position is - pushing a great deal against an equilibrium, and I should not and have not prioritized that over the problems that affect more people and hurt them more badly." 

Sigh. 

"...I do not, in fact, especially want to have that much leverage over you. I cannot deny that it would be convenient if you did not share my goals and were likely to harm my Empire if you could, but - I think that you do share my goals, at least where it matters. I wish to work with you as an ally, and an equal; I want you to think your own thoughts, and make bold plans, and tell me when I am wrong. I cannot ask you not to be afraid that any misstep might destroy you, the world is...not, in fact, safe, and there are no afterlives, and I cannot even promise for sure that if you die I will win someday and get you back because I am not sure I can do that...but I wish that at the very least you need not be afraid of me." 

A slight shrug. "Also I am not sure if it is important, just - I am not confused about why you would be miserable in dath ilan, but I am very confused about why you would be miserable about specifically the part where no one, no matter their relative positions and power, has leverage they can use to hurt anyone else. I assume you do not prefer to be cornered by powerful men." 

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" - I'm not afraid of you. You have incentive not to kill me and you aren't stupid. Pretending we're sleeping together doesn't bother me; I would really like to say that actually sleeping together also wouldn't bother me but for stupid reasons it'd probably bother me a little, not enough anyone who can't read my mind would notice. This game - isn't interfering, on my end, with feeling safe or being able to think."

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...Nod. 

"We can work with that." He stands up. "I have historically been restrained about public affection, so we need not be dramatic about that, but it will be more convincing if I casually touch you sometimes. Is that going to be distracting or interfere with your ability to think." 

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See, this is the reason why it was stupid to say outright that she'd be mildly upset if he fucked her, now he quite understandably thinks she's made of glass and needs special handling for her disability of being completely emotionally incompetent. "No, that's perfectly fine and won't bother me at all."

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Then he'll offer her a nice silk robe from his wardrobe - clearly tailored to fit a woman's body, though not Carissa specifically, it's a little big on her – and also, at least if she's reading the foreign style cues correctly, clearly informal, the sort of comfortable slip-on garment one might don to walk around in private suite of rooms rather than be literally nude in front of servants. 

(Incidentally, it has some kind of low-powered magic laid on it, probably some kind of minor protective spell, though as usual the Velgarth style of magic looks very different.) 

"How long do you have on translation?" he checks. "Should you recast the spell before we go out where there are certainly servants reporting to other court powers, and likely a dozen mages scrying us?" 

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"It should still have nearly an hour on it." Aside from having maybe destroyed her entire world she's so much cooler than she was six months ago. She would happily have killed a lot of people to make fifth circle, to have ninety minute spell durations, if you'd asked her back then. 

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...Altarrin doesn't like the acting part, but it doesn't bother him, any more than putting on a performance for the court does. He takes a breath, and aligns his mind in the right posture.

Carissa is a promising resource. He's cultivating her. He has power over her, that's just straightforwardly true and undeniable, and she can't threaten him, and so he's relaxed and can leak some fondness. (It's not hard to summon that emotion. Altarrin doesn't always end up with friendly feelings toward the women he's brought into his bedchamber, but most of them aren't as– 'likeable' isn't quite the right word for Carissa, but - worthy of his respect.) 

And layered around that: Carissa is his his his, he got to her first and he's pressing that advantage, and he's entirely confident that he has a handle on her - conveniently the talisman against Thoughtsensing will blur out the mage-energy signature of low-powered compulsions, he'll let people go on wondering if his confidence is based on magical control or just mundane incentives. She won't make trouble, and she's going to be very useful to him, so he's not about to let anyone else make trouble for her either. 

 

 

The change in his body language is subtle, but it's there. He smiles at Carissa - a little longer than before - and casually slings an arm around her waist, and then dispels the locking-spells on the door and nudges it open. 

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There are indeed servants! The young woman polishing the cabinet beside the dining table stops in her work and looks up. "Archmage-General! We didn't know you were back." 

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He smiles at her. "Once our problem was dealt with, it was quicker to simply return rather than passing word. ...We did miss breakfast, but of course I hardly gave you much warning. We are happy to wait on your convenience." 

Fond smile at Carissa, and he ushers her to the table. Pulls up a chair on the same side of her, this time, close enough that he could be touching her leg under the table, if he wanted to. (He doesn't.) 

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This is so reassuring. Carissa is mildly embarrassed by how reassuring she finds this. It's - Keltham couldn't do it, Carissa herself is only all right at it, and it's such an important survival skill that it's like wandering in the desert and finding out one of your party members knows how to detect underground water. 

 

Right, stop being an idiot, take your cues. 

 

This Carissa has never in her life worn a +6 headband and given herself Owl's Wisdom and come up with a plan to fight the gods and take their job; she is a smaller Carissa than that. The disaster in Aksell she's fleeing is not of her making, is not the fruit of her own terrible idiocy, you grow up from things like that and the Carissa here right now hasn't grown up. She came here hoping for this, for patronage and safety and comfort, and she has it, and she understands perfectly well that she did nearly all her steering in the moment of decision and largely isn't steering her life from here, beyond making sure Altarrin doesn't get angry with her or bored before she's had time to find her feet. She thinks he won't. Altarrin - even pretend-Altarrin, the one here with her now - is a steady man, not moved by whims. This Carissa expects it won't be hard to avoid making him angry and that he won't instantly drop her when he gets bored. 

 

 

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She smiles back at Altarrin and sits where she's expected to sit. "Do you travel much?" she asks innocently, this being a question Altarrin's personal guest/prisoners might care about a great deal without being an impolite one to ask about.

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Altarrin, too, is running two separate threads, though not as effectively, without the benefit of the headband.

The pretend Altarrin is about as relaxed and unhurried as he ever gets. There's a opportunity here, but he's secured it, and has plenty of time now to exploit it at his leisure. Oh, he knows his rivals might try to interfere, which could be inconvenient, but he's not worried and it's certainly not worth skipping a lovely breakfast over. The clever woman with the fascinating Wild Gift who landed so conveniently in his lap is also charming and pretty, and while Altarrin is never sentimental over his women, it's known that he likes to indulge them when it costs him little to do so. 

(The real Altarrin is still calm, being tense won't help, but the real situation isn't yet fully under his control. In particular, he needs to secure the full cooperation of everyone who already knows things that could break open the secret. Ellitrea is fine; he has her loyalty, much better than compulsions. The Healers who responded to the initial scene could be an issue, he'll need to consider carefully what they might have seen. The mining-expert mage who talked metals with Carissa will need to be handled delicately...

...The young Thoughtsenser who Ellitrea pulled in to relieve her is potentially a problem. Altarrin doesn't have a good sense of him. He'll pull in Ellitrea for advice on that, ideally during breakfast - he can't get her attention directly from here, he's not a Mindspeaker, and given that the new protege-or-prisoner now sharing his bed is visibly shielded against Thoughtsensing, having a page summon her here will stand out. He'll contact one of his loyal mages with the most secure short-range communication spell, though, get them to alert her, and she can initiate the Mindspeech link... But not quite yet, he'll wait until he manages to establish a conversation that doesn't take his full attention.) 

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A lazy hand gesture has the servant-girl trotting to the sideboard and bringing them the tea set - she knows Altarrin's routine - and then making to take the water-pitcher to fetch boiling water from the servants' side-room. Altarrin waves her off; instead, he uses a heat-spell to boil the cold drinking-water from the pitcher at the center of the table, and fills the teapot. He's a powerful mage, and unusually skilled at control and efficiency. It's not very expensive for him, and he'll fall back on it rather than the enchanted artifacts the servants use when he's in a hurry; it's barely showing off at all. 

"Rarely on such rudely short notice!" he says, replacing the lid on the teapot. "And less than I once did. One has to at first, but having people you can delegate to is really much better for efficiency. And avoiding interruptions." He lets his lips twitch. "I expect you yourself never expected an opportunity to travel so far north. They must seem fascinatingly exotic to you." Altarrin has complete faith in Carissa's ability to ad-lib a response. 

 

(Pretend Altarrin isn't exactly apologetic about hauling the pretend Carissa, who after all fled a potentially fatal disaster to seek his protection, out of her bed and into some minor local intrigue. Her Wild Gift is so convenient when one needs a translator and doesn't have a reliable local contact on hand, and it's his to use now. She handled herself well, in the face of said unspecified local Iftel-related intrigue, particularly impressive given that he was hardly going to fill her in on context she didn't need to know. He was already quite pleased with himself last night, and moreso this morning. He's in a generous mood. 

And being nice to her is free. That's one of the mistakes that some of the younger, more hotheaded and arrogant court nobles make. She won't interpret it as anything stronger than it is, which is nice, the naive ones can sometimes get so attached. But she's not stupid, and he isn't uncertain of his footing here at court; he doesn't have to prove his power over her by being cruel.) 

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You don't become as important as he is, in Cheliax, if you don't enjoy being cruel, if you'd need further reason than 'you can'; but probably Aksell isn't Cheliax, and this small Carissa has considered the possibility he's toying with her but isn't nearly certain of it. Perhaps he just enjoys being friendly, and having her be friendly back; why shouldn't he?

Friendliness is of course no reason to give up information with any strategic implications, like whether she was able to follow along with any of the proceedings she participated in. "They dressed very strangely! And I'm glad your business was done quickly, as I don't think I would've much liked the food I saw for sale. ...the empire is so big. I know you do it with Gates but it's still hard to fathom - at home no one'd pay taxes even to another island over."

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(Altarrin isn't thinking this right now, but he has before: this is one way the Eastern Empire does better than Cheliax, however low a bar that might be. It may be the case that ruthlessness a prerequisite to power - which, in some sense, seems very hard to avoid - but not cruelty that isn't even strategic.) 

 

"Well, our reputation does help! We are the best-run and most prosperous Empire on the continent, and provinces that join us can expect, in the long run, to be better off than they were before. Of course, we owe our success to the centuries of work offered by our best mages and generals, and engineers, and even philosophers – and we had a starting advantage, as the first real state to rebuild after the Cataclysm. But I think we go on to earn it, still, year after year." 

 

 

 

It's the standard propaganda, more or less. But the Altarrin of a week ago wouldn't have said it was false. And - it wouldn't have hurt nearly so much, to repeat those tired words. 

(This thought doesn't show in his face at all.) 

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It's not a bad thing to be the thing you're required to believe. And she has a Thoughtsensing talisman and doesn't even really have to believe it. 

 

"Well, so far you're terribly persuasive."

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The pretend-Altarrin, who has touched and possessed every inch of Carissa's body and now finds this casual affection unremarkable, reaches out to run an affectionate fingertip through her hair. 

...He wants a less serious topic of conversation, though, and ideally one where Carissa will do most of the talking for a little while. It doesn't have to be interesting talking, he just needs enough attention to spare that he can hold a Mindspeech conversation with Ellitrea. (Companionable silence would do as well.) 

 

"Indeed," he says cheerfully, and reaches to pour tea for both of them. "The food looked unappealing, you said? I admit I quite like the northern style of charring root vegetables in ground-ovens, but it does look unappealing at first glance. - Tell me, what are your favorite dishes from Aksell?" 

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Aksell has been assigned Corentyn's traits where it needs to have them, that being the only port city Carissa has ever lived in when not part of a secret government project. She is happy to tell him all about it. 

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For the most part this doesn't conflict with anything Altarrin knows about the real state of Aksell - meaning that he puts negligible odds on anyone else in the Empire knowing enough to be suspicious - and so he nods and smiles and takes the opportunity to share a few things about the Empire, like the fact that the Palace cooking is heavily automated with mage-artifacts. (He does at one point provide a hint by asking if a particular foodstuff is a regional thing, he once spoke to a traveling merchant who had crossed through Aksell and never mentioned it, though maybe there's some oddness with the translation her Wild Gift provides.) 

But he can mostly listen, offering responses that don't require any thought, and once breakfast arrives there can be more pauses in the conversation.

He reaches out with the communication-spell, asks one of his mages to (discreetly) alert Ellitrea that he wishes for her to contact him by Mindspeech, now that he's returned from his inconvenient emergency travel. 

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Ellitrea is not having a good day. 

She's been on edge ever since the stranger who might or might not be from ANOTHER WORLD (well, probably is, the evidence is awfully hard to reconcile with anything else, it's just so bizarre and implausible...) arrived unexpectedly in Altarrin's office. Which is, you know, also incredibly suspicious, whether or not Carissa is knowingly part of any plot.

Carissa's world supposedly has life after death, which is - well, it's pretty self-evident why this is huge. Carissa's world, if it's real, has an entirely different set of gods, some of them even more terrifying than the ones Ellitrea has heard of, some of them...maybe potential allies? And Carissa herself is confusing on a level that Ellitrea has trouble pinning down. She's so scared – not that it's a surprising fear, she comes from a place that's dangerous in the same ways the Empire is, except so much worse, whether or not Carissa herself seems to see it that way – but it is surprising and strange for it to coexist with planning to fight the gods

And then of course there's the even more confusing and implausible aspect where Carissa claims to have encountered someone from a third world. One without magic, at least as far as she could tell, but with sophisticated non-magical engineering, and maybe even more sophisticated governments than that.

(Which the part that feels hardest to believe, really, because it came across like they were - aiming for the same sort of thing the Empire is, prosperity and good infrastructure and ongoing improvement, innovation and trade and wealth and abundance, a world where everyone does their part and in exchange children never starve – but Ellitrea is very confused about how one would do that without compulsions, while teaching all of their people mental techniques that Carissa thought would make it hard for her to survive in the Empire, and - somehow at the same time - apparently without 'Keltham' having arrived even slightly prepared for Carissa's claimed country of origin. A world that destroyed the records of its own history without anyone managing to interfere or rebel, and one where an elite order learns secrets and apparently doesn't leak them constantly to clever underlings, despite the fact that Carissa seemed to believe that everyone there was very, very clever...  

Maybe the premise is just that dath ilan natives are aliens who...can't do political maneuvering...? Or, you know, maybe the reason it doesn't make any sense is that it's not true, though it's not like she has a different explanation for why Carissa believes it, and it was obvious in her thoughts that she did. Maybe it's just the lack of gods, or - if Carissa's guess was right - at least a lack of gods with any ongoing influence. Ellitrea still isn't sure how you pull something like that off, though.

And Keltham wanted to destroy Carissa's world, which Ellitrea hasn't even really bothered to try to make sense of. Altarrin was upset about it. Ellitrea...apparently isn't buying the premise enough to have an emotional reaction.) 

 

 

It's not that it isn't, in some ways, very good news. It's a resource. It might change everything. You don't turn down opportunities like that.

But, at the same time, it's a resource they don't understand, with implications not yet explored. And - being the first person sitting on a novel resource in the Emperor's court is risky, especially if you're keeping secrets. Which they are. 

The secret isn't out yet. There are, of course, rumors and speculation, and Ellitrea is sure she's only aware of a quarter of it – but it's not that unusual for Altarrin to shelter "political prisoners", and when he does, some fraction of the time he takes them to his bedroom. (The common story is that he's good at maneuvering to be the first to notice if someone in a dangerous position - someone whose loyalty is unusually cheap to buy - is also unusually talented and worth securing. The second half of the story is that he kinks on having leverage over clever competent women. Ellitrea is pretty sure that this is at best a very oversimplified gloss on the situation, but it's not like Altarrin discourages that impression.) 

Altarrin wants to make full use of her claimed magical abilities, and find ways to cleverly combine it with mage-work. This is an entirely reasonable goal and also will make it very difficult to maintain the secret. He's not in a hurry, and she's sure he has a plan, but - 

 

- but throughout all of this, Altarrin has been reacting...confusingly, in a way that reminds her that she doesn't, really, fully know him. She's always thought of him as - legible, predictable, someone who can be counted on to keep his promises - but she keeps having the strange inexplicable sense that he's looking at Carissa and Carissa's knowledge and resources, and seeing an opportunity for - something she doesn't understand - something that might be big enough to be worth burning decades worth of cautious alliance-building. At moments he's seemed reckless to her. 

And she's pretty sure he isn't, she's pretty sure it will turn out to be something perfectly consistent with the man she's worked with for years, because Altarrin is one of the most deeply consistent people she's ever known. (Maybe. If she ever really knew him at all. In some ways, he's a hard man to know.) But, either way, she's confused, and she's been doing her best to keep everything under control ever since he dropped out of contact in order to bring his political prisoner to his bedroom. The report of his urgent trip to the northeast, which was immediately relayed to her even though she was still asleep at the time, hasn't relieved her concerns. Ellitrea is pretty sure it's a cover story, and she has no idea for what

 

 

 

- anyway, it's both a relief and a burst of fear-worry-stress, when she finally receives the message that Altarrin is back and would like her to contact him with Mindspeech and hold a conversation at a distance. 

She reaches out. :Altarrin. What's going on: 

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Ellitrea knows everything that Carissa was thinking up until the point that Altarrin sent her off to a guest room to talk spellsilver mining and read history books. (So - another world's gods, Carissa's impossible intelligence-enhancing magic and translation magic. Keltham. Dath ilan. The fact that Keltham wanted to destroy Carissa's world. Probably other things, he's behind on his notes and in any case doesn't have them in front of him right now, and is half-distracted making the right faces and noises in response to Carissa's convenient supply of small talk.) 

:No problem with Iftel. - Well, there is the usual ongoing problem, but unrelated to my disappearance this morning. I...think it is safer if I do not explain everything for right now: not to mention easier, he's really not operating at full capacity in this setting, :but - Carissa's magic is very powerful, in some unexpected ways, and Carissa herself has an agenda – and I mean that as a compliment. We discussed plans for the future, and in the long run we cannot take full advantage of her magic without revealing her origins, but - we need time. We have a cover story prepared. How well is the secret still contained: 

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Ellitrea is not really any less concerned. She can summarize what she knows or can infer, though.

She and Altarrin were alone in the room with Carissa during the most substantive conversation that she's aware of. Someone might conceivably have had the skill to scry them anyway, but it would take quite a lot of talent and prior preparation. And short-range directional Mindspeech still isn't detectable by any known mage-technique, so they wouldn't have gotten Carissa's thoughts or Ellitrea's commentary to Altarrin, and without that, Carissa's spoken words are a lot more confusing.

She can't rule out that someone scried the room and heard everything after the point when Carissa cast the translation spell. (Implicit: if someone had, they would probably hide their hand anyway - anyway, unless and until someone shows up to try to blackmail one of them, Ellitrea isn't worrying about it.) 

The Healers who responded to the scene aren't all fully Altarrin's people, but they didn't actually see that much, and Ellitrea has checked up on them and confirmed that they haven't gone selling rumors for favors (and has discreetly read their minds and confirmed that they're confused and curious but not especially pursuing that curiosity. Healing Gift is rare enough in the Empire that their day-to-day is very busy). The mages brought in on it were all Altarrin's – except for the mining expert, but as far as Ellitrea knows he's still heads-down in his lab trying to develop a better spell for extracting spellsilver from various ores.

The remaining factor here is the kid, Ketar, who ended up assigned to Thoughtsensing duty. Ellitrea isn't criticizing that decision; it was a terrifying and high stakes situation, and there aren't a lot of Thoughtsensers they can count on, she can't herself think of anyone better. And she's pretty sure Ketar is loyal to the Empire and to Altarrin, just...in the way that youngsters are. 

Anyway, she wanted to keep him busy while Altarrin was - figuring things out, or whatever he's been doing, she genuinely doesn't have to know - so she sent him off to read a number of thick textbooks on the Empire's history and on obscure mage-techniques, with the premise that Altarrin was going to want him to do more mindreading later and have more of the context he needs to translate things. 

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- they're going to need to find a different project for the kid, if the kid needs a project, because Altarrin gave Carissa a talisman that blocks Thoughtsensing.

Altarrin realizes that this probably seems like a very bold and risky move, on his part, but. It's important. Carissa was used to people frequently reading her mind to check for - thoughts that indicated disloyalty - and she can't use her full, magically-augmented intelligence to help make plans unless she has enough confidence that no one is going to murder her for thinking the wrong thing.

And her priors on that are - the predictable result one would expect with someone who grew up in Cheliax, which given the throughput limitations on Mindspeech, Ellitrea probably knows more about than he does - and so, since Altarrin very much does want Carissa's full intelligence and expertise available to him to serve his interests, he needs a Carissa who credibly believes that her thoughts aren't going to get her in trouble. Ellitrea, as a Gifted Thoughtsenser who can maintain shields, probably sympathizes. 

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Ellitrea is NOT ANY LESS CONCERNED but - she has to keep in mind that Altarrin is busy and distracted and will give her the full explanation later, once they can actually have a conversation behind shields. 

:What is your cover story for her?: 

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Altarrin can convey their cover story!

Carissa is from Aksell, one of the numerous coastal city-states in the far southeast, where she studied at one of the particularly secretive mage-schools – she hasn't even shared the details of it with Altarrin. She has a valuable and versatile Wild Gift, one that lets her make a very unusual style of artifact - mostly one-time-use, but at great expense, and in some cases with the help of teachers she no longer has access to, she was able to make the permanent ones that she wears now, which exploit some kind of natural phenomenon in a particular metal and as a result don't need to be repowered. 

A few days ago, her mage-school had a change of leadership that put her in danger. She knew Altarrin's face from a previous trip he made to the south, and was able to make a one-time-use artifact that would transport her to him – Altarrin hasn't been able to study even the spent artifact for it, since it was left behind and making another would be a very large project for her, but he suspects it was closer imitating the very rare Fetching Gift, rather than a Gate. One of the easier artifacts for her to make, conveniently, is one that allows her to understand a speaker even if she doesn't know their language, presumably via some kind of limited imitation of Thoughtsensing; a more powerful (and correspondingly more costly for her to make) version also lets her speak the language. 

For now, Altarrin would prefer that her arrival not make waves. For one, she's obviously very much on edge after her desperate escape, and Altarrin expects he can buy quite a lot of her goodwill by sheltering her from the attention of powerful people in the Emperor's court who would be eager to steer her toward their own purposes. He would also like some breathing space to learn more about her Gift and formulate his plans on what to do with it. Of course there will be rumors, but he would prefer they coalesce into a picture where Altarrin has found another useful political prisoner to rehabilitate. 

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Ellitrea can work with that.

 

It would help to know what his real plan is, and the timeline on it. She assumes Altarrin has an outline sketched out, even if he hasn't had time to fill in the mandatory eight layers of contingency-plans – and obviously now isn't a good time to get the full explanation, when he's busy and distracted, but how long he wants them to aim for keeping the secret, versus how fast he wants to push for using more of Carissa's full knowledge and abilities, probably will affect some of the planning that he's delegating to her. 

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(Well, he may or may not end up deciding to stay in the Eastern Empire at all for all that long. But that is definitely not a conversation to have via Mindspeech at a distance, while he's also trying to ask Carissa appropriately subtly-flirtatious questions about her "country of origin" while also remembering to telegraph the answers if anyone spying on them might be able to check.

He keeps that - and most of his other ambient thoughts - tucked away behind his shields, and is very careful about what and how much he pushes across to Ellitrea) 

 

He's going to need to work on a large scale, to take full advantage of Carissa's abilities. He doesn't know what exactly they'll need to do or how, yet, but - he's definitely going to need competent people, loyal to him, who can be trusted with the full story of what they know so far.

...He's not really expecting the secret to hold for more than six months, but he definitely needs a minimum of one month to lay the groundwork. Which means it's all right to bring people in who are personally loyal to Altarrin or have strong incentives in that direction, and where there's no specific reason to expect that an opposed figure at court will single them out and lay compulsions to learn all their secrets, but - it's acceptable to bring in people who can't necessarily defend against that, if Ellitrea expects they can manage to avoid attention. 

(Altarrin would actually be very surprised if this held for more than a couple of months. And one week would be enough, probably, assuming that no other bizarre events happen but that's a dangerous sort of assumption to start making.) 

In terms of which skills he needs, mostly mages? Mage-engineers in particular. He would prefer to work with the sort of mage who has little interest in the broader political landscape and will focus entirely on a new interesting problem - not all of the mages loyal to him match that description, but many do, and Ellitrea knows which ones. 

That being said, he does need some people who can focus on the court politics side of things, track the rumors and scheming. And report to him, of course, but also be capable enough to make urgent decisions independently, because Altarrin expects to be too busy for that. - A woman, if possible, because ideally she could explain things to Carissa, and he thinks Carissa will learn more from a woman and would be more distracted by a man. He can think of several potential candidates, but Ellitrea may be more up-to-date and certainly has more time to think; he'll leave it to her. 

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Altarrin is very clearly holding back quite a lot of potentially very important pieces.

...That's fine. He's probably right if he thinks it's safer for her not to know. Ellitrea is a Mindspeaker and can shield her thoughts and detect compulsions on her, but that doesn't make her immune to non-magical forms of leverage. 

 

There are plenty of options for mages, and most of those who responded to the initial emergency are among the potential candidates; this isn't a coincidence, obviously, but it's convenient. 

For the last thing... She should put Ledia on it, the girl is loyal enough to Altarrin, and disinclined to ask too many questions about the weirder aspects here – and she's a young  nobleborn mage just recently out of the Hall of Learning, who knows the ins and outs of the social cliques among the young ambitious mages at court (who, with mage-sight, are most likely to notice something in conflict with Altarrin's cover story for Carissa.) But she's also nineteen, and, well, Carissa won't like her, she's - not frivolous exactly, but not nearly cynical enough... 

Betril would do better on that front, except that he's not that deeply loyal to Altarrin, and also not a woman... 

 

Merda, maybe? She's not Gifted, but if anything that's a benefit, she's by default below the notice of anyone who is. She was one of Altarrin's protégés, which is why she didn't come to mind first - it's a potential hint for watchful eyes that Altarrin is playing at something here - but that was twenty years ago, most of the watchful eyes have short attention spans.

And Merda is a good pick in other ways. She made her way to the capital by scoring highly on the civil service examination, despite her lack of noble blood, and she - may have had her fumbles at first, but if anything, it might just have taught her a deeper cynicism about the Empire. She's certainly organized enough to keep track of everything that Altarrin wants to know. 

And her loyalty - isn't totally unquestioned, she might betray Altarrin if it were in her interests, but it's been twenty years and she hasn't done it yet. 

 

 

Once she's passed some brief updates to those of Altarrin's mages who already know that something happened yesterday, Ellitrea summons a page and sends a note to Merda, asking her to please urgently bring some records from the Archives to a particular mage's office. 

(It's a code. The mage in question is one of Altarrin's people, he works on sewage-purification spells and is of little interest to anyone, and the unusually thorough shields on the Work Room are because he runs tests on potentially disease-causing raw sewage – if anyone thought to check, which they haven't, it's a coincidence that they also block scrying.)

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Merda believed in the Empire, once. The Empire gave her a lot to believe in. The minor nobles for whom her mother was a nursemaid noticed that Merda could read when she was only three, and said she ought to be educated, that she could pass the examinations, that she could rise as far as she was intelligent and hardworking, and she spent every waking moment of fourteen years of her life studying, and she passed, and she came to the imperial court perfectly versed in the Empire's law, and history, and poetry, and regulatory notices, and eager to rise through her brilliance and determination and obedience and loyalty. 

 

That lasted around three weeks, and for twenty years she's been a touch more realistic about what it takes to survive around here. It's Altarrin who fished her out of her initial trouble, not that she acknowledges a debt of any kind. (She does acknowledge that the time she tried to bite him was unwarranted.)

If you're Gifted, like Altarrin, maybe then you can afford to say all the things he likes to say. If you aren't, then the real rule of the Empire is to have friends, or to have blackmail material, or ideally both, and to arrange your protection from as many angles as possible so you don't lose your footing when one of them dies.

 

She brings some records from the archives to the office at once. 

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Ellitrea passes on some more messages. She assigns someone to giving Ketar a homework assignment (to mindread some of the not-relevantly-shielded people involved in the project as well as various other people who shouldn't learn things where it should be immediately flagged if they get suspicious, since he already knows more sensitive details than he's likely to pick up that way.) She blocks in a time for Ketar to receive a full briefing later this afternoon; she'll make it if she can, otherwise she'll delegate it. 

She lets Altarrin know that several of his mages will be ready to meet him in twenty minutes, which should give a clerk directly loyal to her long enough to finish helpfully taking down notes for the mage-engineer who interviewed Carissa yesterday. She'll send a page with a note summoning Altarrin to a meeting; it's less suspicious than a communication-spell summons. 

 

She goes to meet Merda, reaching out ahead with Mindspeech to warn the mage whose Work Room they're borrowing. It's only polite. He'll arrange to have some work to bring in that might plausibly require a Work Room, an assistant who can do concert-rapport and share reserves even if she isn't mage-gifted, and a scribe. (It's a spacious Work Room with multiple sections; he can put up a sound-barrier and work on whatever he feels like.) 

...It's taking more effort than she expected to figure out how to explain this to Merda so it doesn't sound like some kind of bizarre and implausible ruse. 

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Twenty minutes. Altarrin tucks a lock of Carissa's hair behind her ear. (He's overdue on casually touching her; the Mindspeech conversation was distraction.) He suggests she try the blackberry jam with their breakfast - she's probably never had it before, blackberries don't grow in the south. 

He wishes he had managed to invent a communication-spell to target the un-Gifted. Mostly so he could warn Carissa that the upcoming interruption was planned, but also because this conversation is tedious and it would be much better if they could hold a more interesting private conversation in parallel, like he could if she were a Mindspeaker or a fellow mage. 

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She meets Merda at the mage's office. His muttered excuse for summoning them here would be deeply unconvincing to Altarrin, or to any mage who had read the first three pages of a mage-engineering book on sewer-work. Ellitrea might have worried about that if Altarrin had asked for ten years maintaining this cover story, but he didn't even ask for one year. 

They duck into the Work Room. 

 

 

"- Altarrin has a new project," she says, as soon as their host is off in his corner. (She can't see the sound-barrier directly, but he doesn't shield against Thoughtsensing.) "He wants you to–" 

 

And she hesitates. 

"...He asked me to find someone who could be trusted with the secret - and it is a very powerful secret - and who could manage all of the court intrigue related to it, and report to him whatever he needs to know. He did not specify you. I trust you with it, but it is unusually likely to draw attention and may - probably will - be dangerous, at some point, for anyone involved. Do you want to be involved?" 

 

 

(The answer is going to be yes, almost certainly. But Ellitrea still feels better giving her the option - and, besides, Merda can't shield out her Thoughtsensing, and her thoughts might be informative.) 

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Favors for Altarrin are safer than favors for most people; he'll repay them, and she's yet to observe him arranging to dispose of people once they're inconvenient. 

 

They're not safe, but then, little is, and knowing more is generally safer than knowing less. "Yes."

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Good enough. Ellitrea nods. 

"About two days ago, a woman appeared suddenly in his office. She believes she is from a different world, with different magic - including magical artifacts that can make people cleverer, and she was wearing one of those - and also with different gods. She was from a kingdom that served a god of evil that she had renounced, but shorter after Altarrin captured her, she tried to pray to other gods, ones who she - thought might help." 

 

(This is a terrible summary, Ellitrea was distracted at the time, but that's fine, it's not the point. She has very little idea how Merda feels about gods, and it seems like it might be important.)

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Gods are just powerful beings that don't repay their favors, and illegal besides. Merda is mostly ignoring that to boggle at 'from a different world with different magic'. There are other worlds? How would there be other worlds - like, where would they be? Why didn't anyone know about them? Why Altarrin's office?

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Why Altarrin's office indeed! It's not like Ellitrea has a better explanation there!

Other worlds are presumably like the Elemental Planes, presumably, or the Void, except...further. A lot further, or else some clever mage - Altarrin, probably - would have found them first. 

 

"Altarrin was understandably alarmed. We kept her unconscious while he sought out information on the gods she had named in her thoughts - we had not, at this point, fully put together that she was from another world. When he failed to find any information on them, we woke her, while keeping her under a number of compulsions, and questioned her. She was - very frightened, very eager to be cooperative - in the country she was from, being captured after accidentally teleporting into a palace would have gone very badly for her."

Pause.

"We learned that she already knew that multiple worlds existed, because several months earlier a young man from a third world had mysteriously appeared in hers. His world had very advanced non-magical engineering and science, but no magic and no gods, at least not that he was aware of. Though he might not have known - on the orders of a mysterious elite order, his civilization had destroyed all records of their history." 

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She is at this point pretty sure this is in fact an elaborate test of some kind. She nods patiently nonetheless. 

- if it's real, Altarrin would be willing to do that to get rid of the gods. He dislikes them even more than the politically encouraged amount which is a lot.

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Ellitrea hides a shiver. She doesn't think that's what Altarrin is planning, but - he would, if he thought it would work. 

"Unfortunately her world - she calls it Golarion - may be in danger of being destroyed, because apparently the third world, which is called dath ilan, has a philosophy that worlds that contain more than a certain amount of suffering are better off not existing and should thus be destroyed. You can ask her about it later if you want, I really did not follow the reasoning. Anyway, she thinks it is unlikely we would be able to reach dath ilan or Golarion from here and this will probably not affect us in any way. Altarrin may try to research ways to rescue her world anyway, but I think his main focus is going to be making use of her magic, which has some very powerful capabilities like enhancing intelligence. In the meantime, our public story is that she is Altarrin's political prisoner, after having fled a mage-school in Aksell. We are claiming she has a Wild Gift for an unusual form of artifact-making." 

A slight sigh. "Keeping the secret is going to take some maintenance, and Altarrin needs as much warning as possible if it is about to leak. I want you to be one of the people monitoring rumors at court. And Altarrin's prisoner - her name is Carissa - is going to need an introduction to local politics, so she can navigate it herself without slipping up." 

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It's not an impossible secret to keep, even in this nest of vipers, mostly because it's so ridiculous that anyone who stumbles across it will think it's another layer of a game (it quite likely is). A Wild Gift makes more sense.  

 

The obvious question is what Altarrin's playing for. He has everything she understood him to want. The obvious thing to try is a coup, and he doesn't seem the type but - but then anyone who isn't an idiot wouldn't seem the type. She can imagine Altarrin's reaction: he'd tell her, serious and grave and innocent, that there's nothing he'd have as Emperor he doesn't have already, and it seems true, but - if not that, then what. 

 

"What's the girl like?" She can half guess already. Altarrin has a type.

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Ellitrea considers this for a few moments. 

"Very intelligent, very skilled at what she does. Impatient with people less intelligent or skilled than her. Very...survival-oriented, I suppose, and adaptable, she was immediately tracking what resources and allies would make her safer here. Very - mentally flexible, is I think how I would describe it, she is willing and able to use very different strategies depending on where she is and what she can pull off. ...Capable of ambition and - dedication to her ideals, I might call it - to a rather startling extent, in the right circumstances. Her mysterious arrival here was shortly after she had come up with a plan to personally fight the particularly obnoxious god in charge of her country. I think Altarrin approves." 

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Merda thinks it sounds like the last thing they need. Much better if the girl takes her ambitions down about ten notches and aspires to not cause a civil war. "I'll see what I can do. Where's he holding the girl?"

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Well, Carissa seems to have scaled down her ambitions right now. She's in a new environment, with new constraints; she's going to play it conservatively at first.  

...Or at least that was Ellitrea's previous impression. But Altarrin hasn't even begun to explain what he really spent the last several candlemarks doing, and Ellitrea has a worried feeling about just how disruptive Carissa's arrival is eventually going to be. She can't even mindread Carissa to check, and that's separately concerning, it feels - out of character - for Altarrin to leap so quickly to offering her a talisman against Thoughtsensing, well before the point when it would be necessary to prevent the secret leaking. 

"In his quarters, right now. I am inclined to send you there to meet her in a few minutes, once Altarrin leaves for his next appointment, I want your read on her. You can be there ostensibly to fill her in on our trade customs and property and contract law, she had questions about this yesterday." 

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Property and contract law? 

"All right." She's assuming Ellitrea will be mindreading Carissa, because obviously that's what's going to be actually informative, and that she'll occasionally be fed prompts for what to ask Carissa; they've done that before. 

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Siiiiiiiiiiiiigh. "I am not going to be able to mindread her. Altarrin for some reason gave her a talisman to block Thoughtsensing. If you can come up with some guesses of what might be going on with him, I would also appreciate that." 

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Well, fuck.

 

 

The obvious possibilities, which she's sure Ellitrea has already thought of and which she's not going to say aloud, even here behind shields: the girl has some way of controlling Altarrin with her unfamiliar magic, one they can't detect, and is puppetting him. (Variants: blackmailing him. Seduced him.) The girl and Altarrin have some plan that Altarrin wants to keep even from Ellitrea, which would almost certainly be a play to be Emperor. Altarrin has done something to the girl which he thinks even Ellitrea, who has no complaints about his tastes or about extensive compulsions, would object to.

A play to be emperor seems likeliest, because it didn't seem all that unlikely to start. She's steering carefully, now, around the compulsions that'd oblige her to report that if she suspected it. She has no grounds for suspicion; Altarrin is himself subject to the same restriction; if he were to take the throne, it'd be for the good of the empire, which she's obliged to serve even above the person of the Emperor. And it might not be that. 

 

"Do you know that the girl's magic wouldn't permit getting to him once they were alone?" she asks neutrally.

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"...It could in theory. She would have had to be very good at hiding it in her own thoughts without appearing to hide anything, but - she might have that skill, she was accustomed to being mindread by her superiors and nonetheless managed to form a plan that I am fairly sure would have counted as treason. I - would be moderately surprised if she could get past all of Altarrin's usual precautions, if she could work around our shielding I think she would have considered different options where I could see it, or at least considered that she had different options. I suppose she could have convinced him to remove some of his protective artifacts, but it would have required an actual argument." 

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"Hmmm." She tries to imagine it. Altarrin is different, in private, behind the unscryable walls of his suite. Not less paranoid, but less - hard-edged. Earnest and apologetic, or at least much more inclined to appear that way. Persuadable to take off some of his magical precautions? Maybe if she had a good enough explanation. Maybe if she played him just right. 

 

"This all seems very risky," she says after a moment. "I'll keep an eye on rumors for you, I'll tell you what people are saying, I'll warn him if they're saying too much. But I don't care to go near someone who you can't read who is playing a game I don't know." And if you all get strung up for treason I want to be able to say I never met the girl.

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BIGGER sigh. 

"I need to discuss that with Altarrin, then, since I think he wants us to trust her, and right now it would be stupid to trust her, especially if he is not going to tell us any of his reasoning!" Shrug. "I would expect Carissa - which is her name, by the way - to realize she will be safer if we are not half-convinced she is scheming to sabotage Altarrin or something. And there is separately an argument that she should learn to hold native shields - talismans can be removed. Maybe I can send you over with Ketar to have her practice - he already knows quite a lot of the secret, and I want someone keeping an eye on him as well." 

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"I'll be curious what Altarrin says," she says mildly. 

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So is Ellitrea! 

She reaches out with Mindspeech again. (Her head twinges. Mindspeech at range, to someone un-Gifted, is hard to begin with, and she's keyed to Altarrin's outer room-shields but that doesn't make it effortless to push through them.) 

:Altarrin, I am assigning Merda to keep track of court rumors and instruct Carissa in navigating the politics here. She thinks it is uncharacteristic of you to have given Carissa a way to block Thoughtsensing so early on - it would make sense if you were sending her to public functions, but none of the servants are secretly Thoughtsensers! Is it really going to destroy your working relationship with her if I send Ketar as well to have her practice shielding, and incidentally Merda and I can reassure ourselves on how far we can trust her?: 

If Altarrin says no, that's - going to be informative in itself, regardless of whether of how compelling and logical a reason he gives. He's good at giving compelling and logical reasons; it's a lot of how he's been so successful at court. 

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...You know, if he were less distracted by the massive implications that he's barely had time to absorb let alone reason through, and by the fact that he's multitasking with inane small talk, he would probably have seen that coming. 

:I - think it will not destroy our working relationship, she seems to expect that I can do whatever I want. I...am not sure it will help with setting the expectations that I want her to actually have, but it is a reasonable request - and she should in fact learn to shield: 

A pause. 

:- Can you warn her? I would rather not speak of it aloud: 

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Sigh. Again. Mindspeaking people with talismans against Thoughtsensing is perfectly doable, they have a loophole for that, but it's extra work and she isn't, in fact, fully sure that Carissa knows how to push her surface thoughts in the right way to answer her. 

:Carissa, Altarrin is leaving for a meeting soon. Altarrin wishes you to practice natively shielding against Thoughtsensing, in case at some point you end up in a situation where someone tries to take your artifact for it. A Thoughtsenser is available for it this morning: 

Carissa isn't an idiot; she'll get the other implication. 

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They want to check if she's loyal and obedient, and why shouldn't they? There's the possibility this isn't authorized by Altarrin, but if it is, she will of course submit.

 

(She's indeed not bothering to formulate her thoughts usefully for the Mindspeaker; she seems to be assuming that her mind will be read effortlessly if it's being read at all.)

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Ellitrea doesn't pick up much of that! A vague sense of assent, maybe some hint of uncertainty... 

She switches back to the Mindspeech link with Altarrin. :I think she's willing - can you discreetly confirm to her that you're aware she agreed?: 

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He's in the middle of listening to her recounting some other made-up story about Aksell street festivals, but he can arrange to make eye contact and nod in a way that, he hopes, should stand out to her while being meaningless to their watchers. 

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Yep, understood. Aksell's street festivals! She's claiming her mage-school was quite sheltered, because that covers for a lot of lack of regional knowledge, but of course some other students would sneak out, and she'd have memories from when she was a little girl, and of course there's some occasion when she saw Altarrin's face....

"I sketched you afterwards, you know, in my notebook - and thank goodness I did, or I don't know if I'd have had enough to target the spell off. You had a very memorable look about you. I thought to myself, that's a very determined man." 

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Broad smile. "I am flattered. And your Wild Gift is rather remarkable - it takes years of training for our mages, to target a Gate-search on a person rather than a place."

And he should change the subject, rather than dwelling on her "Wild Gift" and risking some suspicious inconsistency being noticed. "- You must sketch something for me, later. I have little talent for it myself..." 

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And Ellitrea blinks, tucks her shields fully back into place, and turns back to Merda.

"Altarrin agrees. I should send you and the youngster in a few minutes - his pretext can asking questions about her translation, since if it were really a Wild Gift, it would have to be related to Mindspeech. Do you have any urgent questions before that?" 

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"Are we meeting in his sitting room?" Where there will definitely be spies; not an impossible constraint to work around, but a substantial one. "And are you sure the girl's not dangerous?"

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"You can try to devise an excuse to meet in his bedroom suite, but I admit I am not thinking of a convincing one. Or you could carry on the sensitive conversation by private Mindspeech – Ketar is strongly Gifted enough to relay. We should assume the servants will be selling information and that his quarters are being watched, but almost certainly not by Thoughtsensers." 

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She nods, stands up. "And my second question?"

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Shrug. "I am certain her abilities include dangerous ones. I am...almost certain that if she tried to escape or attack either of you, she would not leave the palace alive, and that she is aware of what is in her interests here. I have some concern that, in the scenario where she is using mind-magic on Altarrin, she might manage to slip it through on you – which is why I am not going myself, and I will arrange to check both of you for compulsions afterward before we debrief. ...And I am not very worried, she would need to be very fast and skilled to get both of you before one of you noticed." 

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"Hmmmph.  - I also want a guard, if this is magic from another world. Neither of us are mages, she teleported into the palace despite all its precautions..". and if it's going to leak anyway a guard is just additional control over who it leaks to. "- Hakkon, or Kordas."

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Sigh. "Altarrin won't like it, but he cannot deny it is a sensible precaution. Should I insist to him on one of them, instead of one of his people?" 

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You want someone who'll sell to everyone so no one figures they have less information than anyone else, they'll try harder if they think someone else has more access than they do. Altarrin's people usually leak more selectively than that. They can, of course, be less discriminate in who they tell, but since they're usually selective people will wonder if they're being selective this time. But ultimately she just gives advice, and she doesn't know all the considerations, and she doesn't care that much if he chooses to follow it.  "If he wants it to be one of his, fine."

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Ellitrea has no idea if Altarrin will object or want to make a different request; she barely has any idea who either of those people are. Obviously Merda has an agenda – everyone, always, has an agenda – but she sees no obvious reason to think that it's one opposed to Altarrin's interests here. 

"I will ask," she says, neutrally. :Altarrin? Given our uncertainty, Merda would feel more comfortable interviewing your...guest...with a mage-gifted guard. Do you have any objections to Hakkon or Kordas? She will understand if you want to nominate one of your people, but those were the names she suggested: 

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Merda isn't stupid, and presumably she's thought this through - in more depth than he has, or has time to do on the spot. He allows himself ten seconds to consider the question.

:Hakkon: He's not exactly the sort of man who Altarrin likes, but he's - predictable. :She - can warn him that Carissa has abilities in addition to the ones mentioned in her cover story, but not the part about other worlds, and I want any very sensitive conversation held in Mindspeech without his participation: 

Hakkon will speculate, probably with some creativity, but the sort of hypothesis he'll tend to come up with is of a political plot, which is - well, not false, but not much of a lead on the rest of the secret. 

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Sending a guard in with such minimal context is a great way to make them much less effective, but Merda can decide if she wants to point that out and object. Ellitrea relays Altarrin's instructions with no particular affect. 

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Merda mostly expects that if Carissa wants to kill her she'll succeed, but she's less likely to want to kill her if there's a guard; even if her abilities let her Gate out from under wards, the guard is an unknown quantity who might be able to interfere. "Sure. Now?"

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Nod. "Altarrin's other commitment is not for another quarter-candlemark, but I assume you need time to coordinate with Hakkon. And - detour past the Archives first, I will send you with a requisition for documents that Altarrin is going to want anyway."

Not that he's asked explicitly, but he has a lot on his mind right now, and Ellitrea can guess what sorts of records he's going to want conveniently at hand refer to in his upcoming meetings. 

"I will have Ketar meet you there," she adds. "And...keep an eye on him, please. He is very young and - not tested under circumstances anywhere near this strange." 

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And wouldn't be anywhere near it, presumably, except he's a Mindspeaker and Altarrin can't have many of those who he trusts. As far as she knows it's pretty much just Ellitrea. She's glad she asked for the guard. Having a guard is probably a good influence on Ketar as much as on Carissa. 

(She has nothing on Ketar specifically. It's a big palace; she hasn't met everyone, and one avoids Mindspeakers when one has the opportunity. No offense to present company is intended.)

"Understood," she says, and waits for the document requisition.

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Ellitrea fills it in for her, and stamps it with the seal that shows that she's requesting it on behalf of Altarrin, it'll get things looked at faster than requesting it in her own name.

 

She sends Merda off, and Mindspeaks Ketar. Doesn't tell him much, just that she's reassigning him from his current mindreading task to the more important task of training their guest slash political prisoner in maintaining her own Thoughtsensing shields, which of course incidentally means he's to report on everything he picks up from her thoughts in the process. (Usually this doesn't even need to be said, but for him, she's making it explicit just in case, and also making explicit that Altarrin's quarters will be watched and he needs to be discreet.) He's to rendezvous at the Archives with one of the palace clerks, Merda, and he's reporting to her for the duration of this mission. Altarrin and Ellitrea are both very busy and should be disturbed only in emergencies, and Merda is fully briefed. There'll be a guard. He should take cues from Merda on what the guard is and isn't supposed to know. 

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Ketar is very stressed about Carissa's situation! Altarrin slept with her and then inexplicably hauled her off to the Ifteli border region, except he's really suspicious that Altarrin was covering for something else because that makes no sense. He is very sure that Ellitrea is failing to tell him a lot of important things. He's kind of unreasonably anxious about being in the same room as Altarrin. 

...On the bright side, at least she's giving him an opening to check how Carissa is doing. Not that he has any idea how he's going to respond if the answer is as bad as he's afraid of, but - he'll figure something out. 

 

Ketar is not completely incompetent at controlling his reactions. He heads to the Archives requisition desk and looks only a little bit nervous. 

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"Kid," Merda says with utter disinterest both in her voice and in her mind; she rarely finds people interesting, and doesn't expect Ketar can hurt her for a lack of deference. She's received most of her requested documents already, and is waiting on one more. "I hear you met Altarrin's latest girl already? Is she pretty?"

And lifted where he should hear it easily: We are not to indicate her situation is in any way exceptional; it's better for Altarrin if everyone thinks she's just a random girl with a moderately interesting Gift, and best for him if they come to the conclusion she's not worth watching or trying to get their own hands on. Most convenient if she is pretty, but there's no point lying about that, is there.

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Ketar shrugs, with the awkwardness of someone who finds this a vaguely uncomfortable question but has also thought about it more than he entirely wants to admit. "Pretty enough. She looks foreign - not in a bad way, just, memorable, you know? I don't think that's why he likes her, I think he thinks she's clever. ...She must be less than half his age, too. I don't know if he likes that in particular." 

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It was a long time ago, that Altarrin had Merda brought to him. She'd gotten herself in trouble. No. That's how she tells it, when anyone's listening, but it's not how she thinks about it in her own heart, behind Thoughtsensing shields trained the hard way. She'd been raped, by an important man in the Imperial Court. She'd done exactly what any blithering idiot would do in that situation, and marched right on over to the nearest legal office and reported him. It would probably have gotten her killed, maybe compulsioned out of her mind and shipped off somewhere. 

 

Altarrin attempted to explain this to her while she seethed at him from as far away as she could get at the same dinner table. She was a blithering idiot, but not enough of a blithering idiot to fail to realize that she was in danger. He explained that she couldn't afford to make enemies like that, not without friends. She seethed. He explained that there were ways to move against someone like that, and that he wished they were easier, wished the Empire functioned differently, wished it was a place that could keep the promises it had made to her as a child studying for the exams. He spoke as if it deeply and personally grieved him. He apologized to her. 

Then he put his arm around her, not even like he wanted her, like he wanted other people to know he had her, and tried to guide her off to his private rooms, and she bit him. 

 

 

Afterwards he apologized for that too. And said - a lot of things, many of them useful and important, about the hidden rules of the Empire they were both bound to serve, and among them that these rooms were the only ones he had, in the whole palace, where no one was watching, and no one would wonder what he was hiding.

She isn't sure if he didn't fuck her because he never fucks any of the girls or because he was not inclined to be in biting range again. 

 

She grew up.

If she ever owed him a favor, and she's not sure she did, she has long since repaid it. 

She doesn't think about it much.

 

 

"Wouldn't anyone prefer young women? Aging is a bitch." She gets the last document. "Let's be going, then."

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Then they can go! Ketar spends the walk chewing on that statement and trying to figure out whether or not Merda disapproves of Altarrin's taste in women. A lot of people seem to feel like it's clearly better than the alternative - Carissa seems to feel that way...

 

Ketar doesn't even try to read Merda's mind. He might or might not be able to get through her shields – they're very good, for someone un-Gifted, but his Gift is powerful – but even if he could, she would definitely notice. He really badly wants to know more of what's going on, but not enough to antagonize the person who he's officially reporting to right now, or antagonize Altarrin by mindreading someone he apparently trusts with important secrets. 

...He's totally going to see if he can mindread the mage-gifted guard once they rendezvous with him, though. All mages are taught shielding but most of the junior ones aren't very good at it. 

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Hakkon, the mage-Gifted guard, is a relatively junior one! Merda did not choose him for his reputation as a subtle actor or a good liar; he'll tell everyone everything and they'll know they got everything. That's the point. He is shielding, as best he can, and wishing he had more context. 

     "You're here in case Altarrin's latest girl is bitey," says Merda, with a twist of her mouth that suggests some private humor.

That's not more than he had already. "I see."

      Quieter, with an air of secrecy: "She's got a Wild Gift. For making mage-artifacts that can imitate some Gifts she doesn't have. She isn't allowed to use them without permission, and shouldn't be able to; if you see her try, stop her."

Well, that's interesting. "Understood."

 

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Altarrin will be there, with Carissa, indulging in some chitchat around the remains of a late breakfast spread, apparently relaxed and not particularly surprised to see them. 

(Altarrin is not a junior mage. His native shields alone are probably the best in the Empire, and he wears talismans as well. Which is good, because it means it would be rather difficult for someone to check and notice the absence of his usual mandatory compulsions. 

There are official checks, including random ones, that he can't evade just by dint of his position; it's the system he came up with himself, because Archmage-Generals are actually particularly well placed to, for example, assassinate the Emperor. He can't risk going without for more than a day. But a random check before this evening isn't that likely, and...it's easier, much easier, when his mind is his own. It's not like he really has the option of taking them off at night in his quarters, since they're self-protecting.) 

 

One of the servants answers the door and lets in the arriving party. Altarrin leans back in his chair. "- Oh, is it that time already? Carissa, dear, I am afraid I have meetings after this." He stands, holds out his hand for the files she brought. "Thank you, Merda. Do you have other business here as well? Oh, and, Ketar, you must be here to offer a Mindspeaker's perspective on Carissa's fascinating Gift...?" 

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Ketar bobs his head. He can't, in fact, read Carissa yet, not until she takes off her talisman. He might or might not get anything she's deliberately trying to push at him? Merda, presumably, is entirely competent to put loud surface thoughts on the outside of her shields if she wants to give him instructions. 

He can mindread Merda's guard and also all of the servants in range, though, and wait to see what the plan is next. Does Merda seem to want him to convey anything to Carissa in private Mindspeech? 

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The servants vary in how loyal to Altarrin they are and relatedly how much of the brunchtime conversation they'll be passing on to related parties, though it was mostly boring. The girl talked a lot about the citystate she's from. Altarrin didn't seem like he was that interested, but he patiently let her. One servant who was planning to pass on a lot of the conversation is now frantically trying to think of something else, like the embroidery on this napkin.

 

Merda's guard is of the opinion that Carissa is hot, and also looks pretty harmless. Looks can be deceiving and he's not an idiot and not going to drop his precautions, but it seems pretty clear from the bathrobe and the loose hair and the smiling at Altarrin how she's trying to play her cards and it's not 'with some murder'.

 

"I'm taking notes for Ketar," Merda says, bored. The intended implication, to people who play Palace games, is of course that she's taking notes for whoever she pleases and Altarrin can throw her out if he's that afraid of people getting a look at his girl, and that she probably arranged this entirely for that piece of information. She makes that visible to Ketar in case he is an idiot and would object he can take his own notes. 

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Carissa does not think she's been disloyal, but she nonetheless feels an unpleasant jolt of nervousness when Altarrin's people enter for the loyalty check. Three of them, a young man who is nervous and a Security in the same mold as the ones who have escorted her when she left Altarrin's chambers and a middle aged woman who is hard to read, but looks - irritated, maybe. Perhaps she is too important to loyalty-check Altarrin's lovers and hasn't cottoned on, or is pretending not to have, that there's something more going on here. 

 

The person Carissa is pretending to be, scared and clinging to the kind of security she can recognize, has to fight back a temptation to cling to Altarrin. But she's not pretending to be incompetent, so she does fight back the temptation, and it's revealed only in a last pleading glance at him.

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There being a culture gap that's a plane across, here, Merda doesn't know quite how to read that. The girl is scared and bad at pretending, or else pretending to be scared. But the person she is in pretense has nothing to be scared of. Altarrin is dangerous. Ketar's just a bright-eyed well-meaning child, and whatever harm he does her it'll be through what he reports to Altarrin, which ought to be obvious.  Or does she not believe the 'bright eyed child' thing? Or is she pretending not to believe that?

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(Ketar will nod agreeably at Merda's claim to be note-taking for him. In actual fact, he really doesn't want to take his own notes, he's going to have to improvise a conversation about a Wild Gift that is completely different from Carissa's actual magic while also reading her mind! Either that or he has to come up with an excuse to go do this in Altarrin's bedroom and maybe make all the servants think that he's trying to seduce Carissa– all right, fine, it's probably implausible that he would do that in front of Merda looking impatiently on.) 

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"You're going to have to take off that amulet for him to learn anything," Merda says, pulling out a piece of paper. "Altarrin makes them very well. I'm surprised he lent you one."

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The person Carissa is pretending to be is proud of having convinced Altarrin to part with the amulet, and doesn't want to think she whored herself out for it. "I traded him one I made," she says defensively. 

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Merda waves her hand impatiently. "Don't account your trinkets too highly, he's generous with all his girls. Why'd you even ask for it?" The real reason is obvious; it gives away the whole game. But there had better be a cover reason by now.

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"She had never seen workmanship like it before! I suppose nowhere else compares to the Empire, in terms of skill at artifact work - though we did know that already." Altarrin says it with a satisfied smile, though of course it isn't exactly an answer to why he gave it to Carissa in the first place. He taps the borrowed Glibness pin. "Though I am nonetheless pleased with my end of the deal. Anyway, I will leave you to it." 

 

Tucking the files under his arm, he pats Carissa's shoulder, in a way that's fond and not entirely perfunctory but certainly isn't lingering; he's a busy man, his window for a pleasant unimportant breakfast conversation is over.

"I expect to be gone two, three candlemarks, I will pass on a message if it goes longer." To the servants, "- Please bring her anything she needs to be comfortable here, she is a newcomer and I would like her to come away impressed with our Empire's amenities." 

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Fake Carissa isn't an idiot. She doesn't blink after him looking wounded. She's fine.

She looks back to Merda a little defiantly, and then removes the Thoughtsensing talisman. 

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With her headband on, fully rested and slightly less disoriented, the most notable thing about Carissa's mind is that it moves very, very fast. She has a lot of concepts to reference, and she's referencing most of them only in passing, jumping to them and on to something else. The woman's in charge but the man is the one with the mindreading power. Interesting implication of local Gift strength not improving with combat experience -- Gift deftness does, of course, but if you aren't a Thoughtsenser you'll never become one and if you are a Thoughtsenser you can read her mind while still in school. She isn't sure if they're going to ask real questions, the kind they can't speak aloud, or not, but -

- she thinks an apology in Ketar's direction. There is a procedure for loyalty checks, at home, and for an announced one one is expected to do the reviewer the courtesy of restraining one's thoughts, in part because competence at restraining one's thoughts is an input into how seriously to take the results of the loyalty check and you want to force people to display the skill routinely. But also partially because it's annoying for the mindreader, to get the worthless contents of most peoples' worthless heads. (Carissa did it for eight years.) The thoughts get old very fast. It's harder to meet standards of professionalism in this context because she's not clear what they are and because they're pretending to have a completely different conversation on the surface, but if they're conveyed she'll abide. 

(Chelish loyalty checks also usually take place with the target restrained, at least at the Worldwound where most people could do a lot of damage if they thought the wrong thing, panicked, and decided not to go quietly. This place isn't Lawful Evil but she's not sure she's propagated that to all the places it should properly go because it's still not as if she's ever had any input from some place that wasn't.)

(She's not thinking about Altarrin at all, besides thinking what fake Carissa is thinking.)

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"At what age did your Gift manifest?" says Merda. 

[Tell me if you want to prompt her with anything in particular] she adds to Ketar.

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"I was eleven. I couldn't - do anything with it, really - so my parents sent me off to the mage-school, figured they'd figure out whatever it was. Which they did, eventually."

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"It doesn't run in the family?" Wild Gifts usually don't, but there's the theory that's how all the normal Gifts got started, Wild Gifts that did inherit reliably enough to not die out. Some of the early Empire's work was on Gift heredity, and it's all fairly puzzling but Merda's read it all. 

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If the Gift is in the blood then Altarrin should get her with child; she'd rather he not, so she'll claim it doesn't. (A dozen associated concepts she's leaping between in her head - a person with high intelligence from another world is more valuable than a person of high intelligence from your own world, to a breeding program, because they might have arrived at it from different pieces, with higher variance in the children; she isn't Keltham, to imagine it might be a favor to her children not to bear them, but she's Evil and she doesn't want to so there (is Evil in fact about that, she hasn't reexamined everything downstream of realizing one should kill Asmodeus); honestly she should calm down and revisit the merits of pregnancy in terms of lighter punishments and incentive to keep her alive but it feels impossible thanks to the stupid internal injuries that she mostly hasn't been looking at; it is contemptible to be hung up on Keltham in a world where he doesn't exist, she's like 80% sure he wouldn't even want that from her and the remaining bit is mostly 'maybe he would want that because it entails her being miserable' which he would be quite reasonable to want.)

She does not actually pause. Headbands are convenient.

"It doesn't. After I turned out to be useful the mage-school went back and checked my sisters and brothers and cousins, in case it'd been missed lying dormant in anyone, but there was nothing."

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Ketar follows along. Or does his best, anyway. She's impressive. 

 

 

Her emotional state, which is what he's paying the most attention to, is...disorienting. (Also he had half-forgotten that, while he knows the contents of Carissa's head rather well, Carissa hasn't even seen his face before now.) Is she in trouble? He's not sure! She's calm about it, if so, but...she would be, it's a survival skill in her own world, her home country is horrific (and it's still kind of background upsetting, almost hurtful, that she's seeing the Empire as similar.)

She certainly isn't thinking about Altarrin in the way she would if she actually wanted to be sleeping with him as a temporary fling, let alone as though she's on a path to falling in love with him, so - the inference is that she's faking her side of it entirely, as a survival strategy. Which doesn't imply that Altarrin is treating her badly, of course - and Ketar would, on reflection, actually be surprised if he was - but it's still a sign that she feels stuck, right? Maybe more stuck than she should, because her own world is horrible.

(What sort of punishment is she hoping she would avoid, by being pregnant?)

(He wonders what happened, in Cheliax, to give her that little mental flinch.) 

Ketar isn't entirely following the part about intelligent people from other worlds. In actual reality and not the cover story, Carissa's magic definitely doesn't run in the blood, but - does depend on intelligence, and so it would be in Altarrin's interest to have a smart child with her. Is that the sort of thing Altarrin would push Carissa into doing? Ketar doubts he would hold back on account of it making Carissa sad, but he would probably...pay her, or something? for the unpleasantness? ...and also it's a long term sort of plan and, while Altarrin is definitely someone who makes decades-long plans, he's not going to decide on one less than a week after Carissa arrived, so probably Ketar doesn't need to do anything about it? 

 

He definitely isn't going to ask her to restrain her thoughts to avoid being rude to him. (Thoughtsensing checks in the Empire don't have that convention, though sometimes particular questions are asked.) He's tempted to ask her to slow down her thoughts, but - that sounds hostile, right? And he's probably missing things, but he really doesn't think he's missing a scheme to murder all of them and escape. Beside, faster thoughts means more information, right, as long as he can keep up.

He doesn't prompt her with anything yet. She's thinking plenty of informative thoughts on her own. 

:No specific concerns about her loyalty so far: he relays privately to Merda, in case she's still nervous about that. 

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"How was your mage-school? How much tutoring did you have?"

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Fake Carissa is sad about fleeing her school, and defensive. Real Carissa doesn't know enough about mage schools to bluff through much of this. "It was fine."

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"Until it wasn't."

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"I thought we were here for Ketar to take a look at the Gift?"

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"Carissa - it's Carissa, right - 

- you'll have enemies, here, just because you look useful to Altarrin. We're not your enemies. Altarrin asked us to come here, and I understand that you left your mage-school under difficult circumstances, but the more we know about your Gift the more we can be helpful."

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She's pretty sure this interaction is happening entirely on the superficial level, entirely for the audience's benefit, that there's nothing she's supposed to read into this except a cue for how to respond and nothing they're getting except her thoughts and a better read on how well she can bluff. If she's wrong they could tell her privately.

 

Probably making her life stressful so they can watch how she handles it is in fact the best possible way to achieve their results here, and good for her too if she handles it well. She is not weak, she is not going to be bothered by it. 

"Altarrin asked Ketar to come here, not you. I didn't miss that."

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She shrugs airily. "Did they have a Mindspeaker look at you at your school?"

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"Yes. That's how I got my translation artifact, by studying with - Orella -"

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" - dead?" Merda guesses from her face. The girl is either very good at lying or is barely lying, transposing real events into a different setting.

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"I don't know. Probably. - almost definitely." She's just lying, her underlying emotional state uncomplicated. No one Carissa cares about is dead, not the way it's possible for people to be dead in this world. (Or do they just wake up somewhere else? She'd be much more optimistic if it wasn't the case that the gods kept and recycled the souls - how fast do they lose themselves, how completely, in what order - but she's here just off erasing her memory so probably they're somewhere, except she was never as convinced as Keltham that that was good enough -)

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Merda breezily ignores the distress, whether it's feigned or real. "Can you use your Gift while Ketan watches?"

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"- I guess but it's slow, it'll take all day even for something trivial -"

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"Well, you don't have to finish anything, we just want to see how you work. And maybe you have all day, for all I know."

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...fake Carissa would glance hopefully at the door. 

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"He doesn't care about you."

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"I know that, I'm not an idiot."


(Is that meant to be a favor? A pointless jab? If the place isn't Lawful Evil then maybe some people really wouldn't realize. Fake Carissa obviously wants to get Altarrin to fall in love with her, but is entirely clear-eyed both about the fact that it probably won't work and that falling in love with him herself would be the worst possible way to go about it. ...what is the best way to go about it, she hasn't considered it but fake Carissa would've done so. She doesn't understand him enough, and of course fake-Altarrin and real-Altarrin aren't much like each other. Real Carissa's comparative advantage in seduction is probably in her tolerance for suffering, unless all of Abrogail's games were in fact aimed at actively misleading her about whether she's tougher and more stubborn than average....no, that doesn't hold up, she'd've noticed if the other girls were like her (and also would Abrogail really have bothered with the games, if she didn't actually truly want Carissa?) ...anyway, fake Altarrin has a script, and is sticking to it, and fake Carissa hopes to get him off it but isn't yet oriented enough to have a guess about how....)

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Ketar's goal here was not, in fact, to stress Carissa out more in order to see her thoughts while stressed! (Probably some of the Thoughtsensers do that, at least with people whose loyalty they're genuinely worried about. He...isn't, particularly, with Carissa.) 

Abrogail. That was the monarch of her country, right? Who– he remembers catching a thought that Abrogail would toy with people, and Carissa's current thoughts are reinforcing that. And she thinks this place isn't 'Lawful Evil', whatever that's supposed to mean, she's flashing past the concept too fast for him to catch it but there's a lot of content there. 

...What does she mean, that fake Altarrin and real Altarrin aren't much like each other? What is 'real Altarrin' like?? Unless she just means the part where Altarrin, like everyone else, is playing games in public, but he's - pretty sure it's more than that. 

Why is 'tolerance for suffering' an advantage for seduction, how would that even COME UP, exactly what does Altarrin get up to in his bedroom with his women anyway

 

(Carissa probably is tougher and more stubborn than average, but Ketar is not at all sure it would help for him to reassure her of that. ...And she's a very, very good actress - if he hadn't been reading her thoughts, he would absolutely have believed in her distress...) 

 

"don't want to be here all day," he says (which is true.) "If it's going to be slow to demonstrate, then I think you should start by just - describing how it feels to use it? Focus on the feeling where I can read it, but without actually doing it, if that makes sense." 

:Wild Gifts are usually very instinctive: he adds privately to her. :You can - make something up, about how they trained you - I don't think I want you to actually do magic in front of Hakkon, he's not trained on artifacts but he might still notice it looks weird. ...And Altarrin might want you to do magic later for him, you should save it for that: 

He almost adds something else, and then...doesn't, because he can't think of any reassurances he could offer that she would believe. 

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"It feels like - if you had some water, and some grooves in a rock, you could see how the water would fill the grooves in the rock even before you pour it, it's just obvious - and then if you do that for a while, you get to a point where if you know how to want the water to flow, you know what grooves you want to put in the rock?"

Hakkon is the guard? And it's not safe for him to notice anything - this palace might actually be even worse than Egorian, in Egorian while her loyalty was in doubt everyone brought near her would be soul-sold and entirely reliable. Of course, even if Altarrin has people like that he might not use them, if that'd suggest he thought she was worth the trouble. Maybe it's that. 

Instructions are reassuring; when you get instructions you can abide by them. 

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Merda peaceably takes notes. Asks Ketar whether she's a gifted liar or barely-lying, it's important to how to proceed from here. 

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:- He's not one of Altarrin's people: Ketar confirms to Carissa. :He'll sell information to basically anyone who'll pay. But he's - not very observant or clever with it, he'll make the obvious assumptions from what this looks like, which I think is what Altarrin wants: 

(What is 'soul-sold'??? Ketar makes a mental note of it. Maybe Altarrin has already asked about it in private, but maybe not.) 

 

Aaaaaaaaaaaaah does he want to tell Merda that Carissa definitely could pull off plotting a scheme while comprehensively lying to them, even if she isn't right now - it seems like that just results in them wanting to read her mind more -? 

:She's a very good actress: he acknowledges to Merda. :But she's - mostly just using it to fit with Altarrin's cover story - she thinks Altarrin is the one who can keep her safe, if she cooperates with his game here, she's not trying for any other plots: Pause. :...She's not actually upset, or feeling very scared or nervous, that was acting. She's - tracking that it's dangerous here, I think she might assume it's even more dangerous than it is, but she's - calm about it, I think it'd take a lot to faze her:  

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This causes Merda to feel a flicker of genuine respect, which doesn't happen much. She ignores it. 

:If she's a good liar she is probably also competent to be careful with her thoughts to impress you or make you feel bad for her: she cautions Ketar. 

"What were your plans for your life before everything fell apart?"

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" - well, to make things with my Gift for the school, or for sale."

Fake Carissa can be like real-Carissa in that respect, both of them with ambitions too small for their abilities, fake Carissa because she's temperamentally not that ambitious and real Carissa because she was, she realized eventually, deliberately misled about how exceptional she was her entire career at the Worldwound and possibly also while in school. She's not mad about that. The person to be mad at about it would be Maillol, for one thing, and she just feels sick to her stomach when she thinks of him, but more than that, it was - fair play by Asmodean rules, she should've seen it coming and corrected for it, the fact she didn't reflects poorly only on her. And they stopped once the strategic situation changed. You aren't owed other people ignoring their incentives in order to be nice to you.

(Which is maybe a useful thing for her present mindreader to see that she believes? She does believe it. She's not an Abadaran, her conception of fair play isn't that the gains from trade be split equally. She's pretty sure it's naive and silly to even have a conception of fair play but to the extent she does anyway it's that you can do as you please if you leave people stronger and better, and that it's their business to figure out how to become stronger and better when subject to approximately arbitrary treatment. Hell wouldn't actually bother her, if it was the thing she'd told herself it was.)

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What is that supposed to mean??? Does Carissa think this is going to be reassuring for him to pick up and if so WHY?????? 

He makes a mental note of the name 'Maillol' even though he's not sure whether Altarrin would consider that important. He considers summarizing some of that to Merda, or bouncing to her directly, to see what she thinks of it, but - he's genuinely not sure if it's the sort of thought that would get Carissa in trouble with Altarrin, and Merda will very likely report it to Altarrin if it is. 

(He feels half a step closer to pinning down the difference in her thoughts from the first time he mindread her. She - wasn't tracking two completely different personas then, he wouldn't have said she was ambitious or at least not that she had ambitions in her current situation, and - he suspects now she does. And he doesn't know what they are. He hasn't noticed even a hint that they're opposed to Altarrin's interests, but - Merda probably has a point, that if Carissa can pretend so effectively in her words and expressions, she can do it in her thoughts as well.) 

 

Out loud, he asks if she can say what the development process looked like for her translation artifact. "Take a minute to think about it, if it's complicated to explain." 

And privately:

:Are you expecting Altarrin to hurt you unless you make really sure it's not in his interests to do that?: 

(He thinks...not, overall...but he doesn't really understand why.) 

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Altarrin is probably a pragmatic person who will hurt her if it's a good idea and not if it isn't. He does come across as nicer than that, behind closed doors, but as per previous conversation with Merda she isn't an idiot and does not expect his generosity to be unconditional, or necessarily any more real than his possessiveness.

She...doesn't intend to make hurting her a good idea? But this doesn't feel like any kind of exceptional element of the situation; obviously one should at many times be endeavoring to make it look to your superiors like hurting you would be a bad idea. You can try to do this through weakness, looking like someone who will shatter if hurt, but it's hard to look like that without it being true, and it's both inherently contemptible and strategically ill-advised to be someone who will shatter if hurt. And you can try to do this through being valuable or being easy to correct, and that works better. And you don't want to build your entire life around never getting hurt; if Altarrin can hurt her and feel more assured thereby of her reliability, then that's a good trade for her. If he were the sort of person to develop feelings for her by hurting her that'd be a good trade, though -

(this pokes the internal injuries enough to give a glimpse of them, all tightly wrapped up in contempt for herself for feeling them; Keltham, Keltham, Keltham, and the paralyzing horror of shuffling along silently behind him imprisoned by her own magic item as he pieced it together and it all fell apart - a different man with a knife at her throat, and the sinking realization that even this being a strategically terrible idea wasn't going to protect her, plus that since she'd thought it would she wasn't ready -)

- anyway, she intends to not give him cause to hurt her and be fine if he hurts her anyway, like any sensible person would, and she sincerely does not begrudge him this. She was at least a little bit in love with Abrogail and Abrogail tortured her to death.

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(Merda has definitely noticed that Ketar is concealing things to protect Carissa, but that's Ellitrea's problem so long as it doesn't bring him to the point of trying to run off with her this very conversation, and that's what she has the guard for.)

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Initial reaction: INTERNAL SCREAMING!!!!!!

(Ketar is not as good an actress as Carissa. He's trying hard to conceal his reactions but not entirely succeeding.) 

 

 

 

Second reaction: all right, so Carissa's world is awful and her Queen...tortured her to death?...and this was in some way flirting, if he's - reading that correctly - Ketar is actually very dubious that he's reading it correctly but he doesn't, especially, want to ask. 

 

:She's not plotting against Altarrin: he tells Merda. :She's...hiding something, I think, but it's not that – she might be plotting something but if so it's either with Altarrin or on his behalf. - She would betray him if it looked like the best way for her to survive but I assume Altarrin knows that: 

And Altarrin might be planning something that will hurt her very badly, and - honestly he's not sure Carissa would notice, or consider it worth mentioning, if it's not as bad as being tortured to death. Even if it's still objectively very very bad. 

He...isn't sure he can do much about that. ...Well, he could make a mental note and tell Altarrin about the thing he glimpsed, so that Altarrin has a better sense of what things he might step on that would damage Carissa very badly and thus be a strategically terrible idea, but...he doesn't really want to do that, and not only because it would involve Altarrin's attention on him and that's terrifying in itself. 

:- Is there anything else you want me to ask her privately?: he adds to Merda. 

(His Mindspeech is going to be leaking more than what can be picked up from his expression alone; to Merda he's clearly upset about something.) 

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Merda is considerably less convinced the girl is harmless.

:Maybe ask directly if she's used her magic on him.:

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(Ketar would not at all have said that Carissa is harmless. But - she's dangerous in the way Altarrin is, in the way Altarrin prefers his allies to be as well. ...And maybe in more ways than that, but if she has ways of protecting herself against Altarrin, he - kind of wants her to keep having that - and so he's not actually sure he wants to know...) 

 

:He might've asked her to: Ketar points out. :It's useful magic: 

But, sure, he'll direct that question to Carissa in private Mindspeech. 

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She's going to try quite hard to avoid thinking about the answer in too much detail, actually. Only with his permission or for his benefit, he knows everything I did she responds curtly and now she's thinking about Gorthoklek descending the moment Nidal attacked and the sky lit up when the gods were wrestling over it and Keltham's visions of dath ilan, shining metal cities -

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That is REALLY NOT REASSURING AT ALL. He doesn't think she's straight-up lying, about the fact that Altarrin knows all the magic she did, but he isn't sure he would notice - she's better at controlling her thoughts than just about anyone he's read before and that's saying quite a lot - and she's definitely implying that she did some magic without his advance permission -  

 

:Did you do magic to protect yourself from him: because you could probably spin that as 'for Altarrin's benefit' if Carissa thinks she's more useful to him undamaged, and certainly Altarrin could easily be aware she'd done it, :or - protect both of you from someone else, without having time to ask him first -? ...I'm sorry, I really don't want to hurt you I don't want you to get in trouble I don't need to know all the details if it's a sensitive plot with both of you but I do need to have an answer to tell Merda that isn't incredibly suspicious - I don't think it's fair of her but she's suspicious of you she's worried you - did something to suborn Altarrin, she thinks he's not acting like himself - she's loyal to him -: 

 

(Also what is Hakkon thinking, what are the servants thinking - he told Carissa to take her time thinking about the answer to his spoken question but he doesn't know if it's been long enough to be suspicious...) 

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Okay at this point Carissa is just confused, or at least the confusion is the thing she's leaning into to avoid anything dangerous. :Sorry, if she's loyal to him and you're loyal to him why are we trying to come up with something to tell her? Or is it just that some secrets are safer if fewer people know them, because that's true but for that exact reason I shouldn't even tell you.

I did magic to Altarrin that does what my headband does, makes a person smarter and more thoughtful. It's temporary and it doesn't let me change anything about his mind, it just makes it work a little more cleanly. I also loaned him the headband, so he could think things through better. None of the magic I did is active now. Both of those are plainly technical truths but she's shying away from specifying what they're technical truths of. I don't think Altarrin benefits from you digging around for details. I wouldn't hurt him, I'm not an idiot. I'm still subject to whatever compulsions he put in my head and I'm pretty sure they prohibit that anyway. I wasn't trying to protect myself except via making him more able to think, and I don't - it's not like - he's obviously entitled to do as he pleases - he's been more than generous, really - She means that very sincerely and it'd probably be more reassuring if she didn't feel the same way about Abrogail Thrune II.

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The servants have mostly skulked off, not expecting to hear much more than they have already (and no one wants to be around one of Altarrin's Mindspeakers if they're making questionable decisions about Altarrin's personal information.) Hakkon is watching the interplay between Merda and Ketar. Merda seems irritated, he thinks, but then again she always has a stick up her ass. Ketar seems...like he has a crush, that's Hakkon's opinion, and it's not a well-chosen crush. 

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It's not that Merda isn't loyal to Altarrin and it's not that he isn't loyal to Altarrin it's just that– 

 

 

At this point Ketar does manage to run into his compulsions, which he had been steering around via something like thinking about how staying on good terms with Carissa served the Empire and the Emperor, and kind of mostly not thinking about Altarrin directly. None of his loyalty compulsions are aimed at Altarrin. 

- he is now, abruptly, finding himself having to dive around and navigate them from the other side. Carissa clearly is up to something, but - it's all right, surely, because she's doing it with Altarrin - or at least for Altarrin - and no one can deny that Altarrin serves the Emperor and the Empire, and that sometimes he has secret projects and needs to be able to operate without interference...

(Ketar can do this. The pressure on his compulsions subsides. It's taking a lot of careful stepping but this is really much easier for Thoughtsensers to pull off.) 

 

:She used magic on him that - makes someone cleverer and more thoughtful: he sends to Merda. :Reading between the lines I think she may have done it without asking his permission first, I am not sure why but it seems like he really wouldn't object after the fact, for that. ...She's under compulsions he put on her. I can't check the details myself but I'm very sure she isn't lying about it. They're working on something sensitive and Altarrin doesn't want it spread around: 

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:Tell her to get upset and storm off.:

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(Quick check: the servants are still mostly not watching - Hakkon is watching but mostly not having thoughts about any of the interesting important things - Mindspeech is fast he has time to clarify -) 

 

:Er, why? And - storm off to where, if that's important...?: His top guess is that Merda wants an excuse to follow Carissa back to the shielded bedroom suite, but he isn't sure. 

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:To Altarrin's suite. I want to talk to her plainly. I will say things that she can easily pretend to find upsetting, but she should know what response I'm aiming at. You can come too.:

 

 

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All right. That makes sense. 

:Merda wants you to get upset and storm off to Altarrin's suite: Ketar sends to Carissa. :So we can follow you and she can speak to you plainly there. She'll say things in a moment you can get upset about but it's– that's what the plan is:

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She understands. - and is slightly nervous but that's just because palace intrigue is always stressful even if you know your lines. 

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"All right, that's enough," Merda says irritably to Ketar. "I know you're new here but 'don't make puppy dog eyes at Altarrin's pretty things' seems like it ought to be common sense."

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"My name is Carissa."

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"I literally don't care. Next question was, how much work does it take before you feel fatigued from using your Gift, you said you can go all day -"

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"I think maybe you had better care what my name is if you want me to answer any more of your questions."

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"Carissa. It's so lovely to be introduced, Carissa. Fate saw fit to give you a bit of special magic, Carissa, which is the only reason you're not a whore on the docks of Aksell, Carissa, and I don't think it'll do you any favors to forget that, Carissa. Altarrin puts up with having me around the girls because he doesn't like it when they delude themselves, Carissa. How long can you concentrate on your magic, Carissa?"

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"What is your problem??"

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"My immediate problem, Carissa, was that I was hoping you might be interesting and you're really, really not."

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Carissa doesn't really have a good model of the kind of person who tearfully storms off about this. They don't last long, in Cheliax. Is that enough to tearfully storm off at? Probably?

"You don't know anything. You're just jealous that - I'm more useful to Altarrin than you'll ever be." And she stands up and staggers for the door and slams it behind her. 

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"Don't really buy that Altarrin wants you to do that, actually," Hakkon says, mildly. 

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"I was curious if she was interesting if you pushed her," Merda says. "I should've waited until we'd finished the questions, though. Do you suppose you need more, Ketar -"

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"Yes! You asked a question and then didn't even give her a chance to answer it!" 

Ketar heads for the door to Altarrin's bedroom suite, but in the meantime he's reading all the minds he can. Especially Hakkon's. 

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Hakkon thinks that Merda being an enormous jerk is a terrible interrogation strategy, not that he doesn't share her impression that Ketar is a little distracted by the girl. Probably Merda is jealous; wasn't she one of Altarrin's girls herself?

 

"You can go," Merda tells him. "She's clearly not dangerous."

It does occur to Hakkon that Merda may also want him to go so that she can sell the story of what happens from here herself. He doesn't argue, though. "As you like. Are you going after her?"

Merda glances at Ketar. "Don't actually want him to chase her off alone."

"Yeah."

And so she follows Ketar. 

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It's a predictable thought for Hakkon to be having and probably Merda can guess it herself. And it's not like– all right, it does probably give him more information, but it doesn't give him more information that points toward the secrets they're trying to hide. Ketar relays that particular thought to Merda anyway. 

 

If Carissa left the bedroom door unlocked (which he assumes she would have, since she knew the real plan), he'll knock and wait about a second and then head in. 

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Still pretending to cry, until she gets an explanation of what the game is from here.

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"You can cut it out," Merda says, coming in behind Ketar. "Ketar says you are trying to avoid sharing details of what happened between you and Altarrin, in his interests, is that right?"

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"Yes. I am not stupid. I haven't acted against Altarrin. There's nothing I've done he doesn't know of. I'm not using magic to influence him, and haven't outside of casting the enhancement spells at his request and loaning him my headband also at his request. I haven't noticed any avenues of escape and haven't looked, and if I did see one I wouldn't chance it, I strongly doubt I'd be better off outside this palace or in the hands of another faction in it."

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"Right," says Merda, with some satisfaction. "You can put your token on. He sent me here to teach you how to navigate this place."

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Carissa does so as fast as her fingers can move but Ketar can still catch plenty from her in the meantime. She feels stupidly relieved and grateful, considering she knew perfectly well that the hostility was a performance for an audience. She feels confused about him, and curious what he's playing at, and - some desire to make the world make more sense to him, because he seemed actually curious about it - 

 

- and then her mind is gone. "I'm listening."

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" - honestly I was expecting some whining about how you're just a magic researcher who doesn't want to engage in politics -"

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" - why would you possibly care about that."

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"I don't! This just isn't obvious to put-upon magical researchers most of the time, for some reason. Ketar, who in that room was reporting to who?"

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"...I don't know who exactly Hakkon reports to in general and he didn't think about it where I could see, but - he's not discriminating, probably whoever he talks to next in that order." (And he has some context on the servants, and can add that, but it doesn't amount to anything interesting, either on who they report to or on what he saw them notice.) 

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"In a proper Asmodean tyranny, Altarrin would just dismember a few of the servants and the rest would keep their mouths shut. - I wasn't going to say that, because the less you know about the place I'm from the better, but on reflection I think it's an important confusion. Why does anyone put up with this rate of leaking and spying? Is the problem that anyone well-resourced can grab and compulsion anyone at any time, or mindread them, so putting the servants in fear of their lives doesn't even reduce leaks all that much?"

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"Also, dismembering the servants sounds messy," Merda says dryly. "Gotta say, I'm not sure I like the place you're from."

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"It's complicated but I think in some respects it was - worse for human flourishing - than human societies will naturally tend to be. - doesn't matter. It really is mostly better if you know less about it."

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"Anyway I think the answer to 'why all the spying' is that Gifted people are valuable, you can't get away with executing them for minor misbehavior, and non-Gifted people are - yes, easy to spy on, easy to mindread, easy to manipulate. They're compulsioned into obedience, usually, but there are ways around that, especially for small things like gossip about something that might not seem to them to be of strategic importance."

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"Like Altarrin's latest girl. How much of a habit does he make of this?" She didn't want to ask him because there's no way to ask that without sounding insecure.

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"Every few years. He's fairly picky, but I don't think it's to our advantage for anyone who hasn't noticed that already to notice that right now. - I wasn't lying that he won't get attached."

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"I wouldn't respect him if he did." And probably, being an immortal lich-like thing, he can barely relate to humans emotionally anyway. 

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"Were you trying to disconcert Ketar for some strategic purpose, or for fun?"

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"I wasn't trying to disconcert him! it's just that all the reassurances I know are Asmodean reassurances, or - even more complicated than that in a respect you don't need to know about. Also I - don't understand," she added to Ketar. "What you were trying to satisfy yourself of. Obviously you may not want me to know."

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It feels like the sort of thing that would be hard to put into words at the best of times, but it's especially hard because he was - trying to check for various possible threats, while also - (a mental bounce off one of his compulsions, which he steers around) - while worrying that Altarrin wouldn't notice if he was hurting her and neither would Carissa 

 

"I needed to be sure you weren't - working against Altarrin's interests," he says, looking away rather than meet her eyes. "And - also I wanted to know if you were - all right, if you needed help or advice - but it seems like you can look after yourself." 

That sounded incredibly stupid. Which is fine because whatever Hakkon thinks he doesn't actually have a crush on Carissa

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"I think he hadn't noticed before that Altarrin could do that," Merda says, "or at least not that he would."

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"You couldn't build a world that worked any other way, not really."

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"Sometimes I think all you'd have to do is put women in charge."

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"That does not in fact do it."

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"Huh. Anyway," she says to Ketar, "if you want to be in a position to help people, you have to know what you're doing, and you don't. If you try to rescue a drowning person, and you can't swim, they pull you underwater, you both drown. If Carissa were a fragile little flower crying into her pillow while Altarrin fucked her, you couldn't help, because you don't know who else would trade for her, or whether they'd want the same thing, or what'd be worth more to Altarrin than she is, or where you could get it. You can buy people out of trouble, if you're rich in the currency people accept around here. You can wrangle people out of trouble, if you know enough and have enough latitude. But you have to get good, and also they won't be grateful."

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"I know that!" Ketar says, half indignantly, "I just..." And he trails off, because he's starting to realize that he doesn't really know what he was aiming for, and that's - yeah, that's the sort of thing that gets you in trouble. It's an uneasy realization. Before today, he would - mostly have said that he thought he did know what he was doing, he's definitely not very experienced or respected or anything but he can navigate life at court. Being a Mindspeaker makes that much easier.

...And safer, because nearly all his life he's been indispensable to the Empire, and - in a way where it's hard to use him against his will or self-interest. That's an uncomfortable realization, that maybe he's spent his whole life - seeing a nicer face of the Empire, because everyone is just a little afraid of powerful Mindspeakers, and wants to avoid giving him strong reasons to personally dislike them. 

He hasn't really tried to get anyone out of trouble before, because he mostly hasn't seen the side of the Empire where people get in trouble for reasons that are fundamentally unfair. 

(...It's a fair point that probably way too much of his motivation has been that Carissa is pretty.) 

 

 

He shrugs. "I guess I - wish this wasn't a place that would use people in ways that are - bad for them." Not like Carissa's home country, which seems to do that on purpose even in situations where it seems like surely there's a way for everyone to mutually benefit. "But - if it is like that - if Altarrin is like that - then I guess it's important to know."

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"Altarrin let me keep my headband. That's - if you want to know what kind of man you serve that's what I'd look at."

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"A lot of people would kill for access to some kind of safe way to be smarter, think more clearly. ...if they could trust it."

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"He trusts it, he tried it. He just gave it back afterwards, because - I don't know, exactly" - because he wishes he'd built dath ilan, except for the destroying worlds - "for permission to use it once a week for an hour I would have gladly given myself to him, if we were trading, which we weren't, he could've had it and me."

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"Altarrin's not a piece of shit," says Merda, somewhat grudgingly. 

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Ketar really wishes he could still read Carissa's mind, because he has no idea what that particular expression means, or whether it's important. 

He shrugs again. "People say he's - fair. No one says he's nice, but - I think he does trades even when he wouldn't really have to and could do whatever he wanted. ...In public, I think lots of people do different things if no one can see, but. I guess you - aren't in trouble with him." 

:Merda, do you have more things to ask her or tell her? Do I - need to be here - I'm not really doing anything if I can't read her anyway: He wants to report to Ellitrea or at least write things down before he forgets all his mental notes, and it's sort of humiliating being stuck in here with two people who clearly think he's an idiot. 

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:You can go.:

And a little more gently than she's ever sounded while speaking aloud: :I wasn't different from you when I was your age.:

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...Huh. Ketar isn't sure what she gets out of saying it. Aside from just...being friendly...but Merda has not, so far, given the impression of someone who does things to be friendly. 

He's still confused, but he's mostly confused about Altarrin and Altarrin is not the safest person in the world to ask probing questions about, even before now he would have been able to notice that. He'll - find a way to ask Ellitrea if it still seems important later. Carissa is fine, probably, and doesn't actually want his help. 

 

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"Right," says Merda, "I'm going to run you through who is paying attention, what they're playing at, and what impression I'm trying to give them of what's happening."

 

And she launches into this with some quite-apparent satisfaction about how magical researchers haaaaaate this stuff.

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Carissa is definitely not going to give her the satisfaction of betraying how tedious she finds this. 

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Ellitrea, when he checks, is still in a meeting. Ketar takes cryptic notes, mostly just as a memory aid, and then fills out detailed and non-cryptic fake notes about his observations of Carissa's "Wild Gift".

He reports to her office a half-candlemark later, with his written report on the Wild Gift. 

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Ellitrea's office is not shielded against scrying. 

"You're early," she says with some snappishness. "Bad enough for Altarrin to pull this on a day's notice. Can't you find something useful to do until I finish this?" 

:Pretend to do paperwork or something: she suggests. :I want us only talking about this behind scrying shields or in private Mindspeech: 

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:Right: 

He pretends to work on making a neater copy of his observation notes, that won't take a lot of his attention. 

:She's used to Thoughtsensing checks – er, or whatever kind of mindreading they have in her home country - she used to be the mindreader doing them. She's good at controlling her thoughts, and she's very good at lying. She's - incredibly intelligent, she has the magic that makes her smarter, I might've missed something that way too. She thinks of herself as - selfish, willing to be ruthless to survive, I think she'd betray any of us if she thought it was the best way to be safe here, but she - wasn't thinking about doing that. And she might have been hiding things, but I think it'd have been hard to completely hide if she was - hostile to Altarrin - and she really wasn't, she– I don't think she really likes him or trusts him, I'm not even - totally sure if they're really sleeping together, she didn't think about it at all. But she thinks he's competent to - manage the situation, make plans - and she's trying to work with him: 

 

He'll go through everything he managed to remember long enough to cryptically note it down. The most salient part to him is that her world, or at least the country she's from, is really really horrible, and she's not certain yet that here is much less horrible, though Ketar thinks it is. He doesn't bring up her thoughts about Altarrin getting her pregnant, or the glimpse he caught of the - rape? - by her superior. He does mention that she seemed to be a little bit in love with Abrogail, the Queen of Cheliax, even though Abrogail 'tortured her to death'. (Ketar is confused because she isn't dead, but that was the thought she had.) 

...She's definitely more ambitious than the persona she was putting on, and that's different since yesterday, he doesn't know what changed but something did. She's definitely keeping secrets for Altarrin; they did some poking and Ketar at least is fairly sure she isn't keeping secrets from Altarrin, at least not in a hostile way, and if she is Altarrin is aware of it and thinks it's strategic for him not to know. 

Merda arranged for them to have a conflict that ended in Carissa storming off to her room - which will definitely get spread around the palace, Ellitrea should keep an eye on that, but Ketar doesn't think it looks suspicious in a way that will make anyone guess the real secret, it mostly made Carissa look immature - and got an opportunity to explain court politics to her in private. Probably there will end up being rumors about that, since Merda was ostensibly here to take notes for Ketar and Ketar left first, but at the point when he was headed out of the suite, no one's thoughts were hinting that they suspected it was anything other than Merda setting herself up to be owed a favor, and maybe trying to extract some information to trade later. 

 

 

(Ketar does not mention the horrible awkward interaction. He should probably ask Ellitrea for advice but he can't bring himself to do it now.) 

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Honestly, Merda's read is going to be more useful, somehow despite the fact that Ketar is a Thoughtsenser. And it's clearly coming across to her that Ketar has a - crush, or something, he's not really objective about Carissa. She mostly hadn't been very worried that Carissa had mind-controlled Altarrin, and she's not sure Ketar would have caught it if Carissa had, so his report is a little reassuring but not very much new information. 

 

Ketar is clearly not saying everything. Ellitrea isn't inclined to push him on it right now; if he's hiding something important, Merda will be able to suggest what it might be, and she can go from there. But Ketar isn't exactly skilled at plotting, so she isn't very worried. 

 

She finishes filling out paperwork and stamps it with Altarrin's seal and slides it across her desk to Ketar. "Put this on the out-tray for me, and then you can say your piece. Keep it quick, I have another meeting after this." 

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Ketar describes some fake observations about Carissa's Wild Gift, and suggests the next step is to have a mage - Altarrin would do - observing while she actually makes an artifact, but it's time-consuming and she needs special materials for it, he didn't want to ask her to do something just as an example when he wasn't sure if Altarrin would want her to make something in particular for him later. 

He keeps it quick, and then is handed a couple of cover errands that will give him openings for some more discreet mindreading. He flees. 

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Ellitrea will keep having meetings interspersed with discreet Mindspeech side conversations. Altarrin is still busy, so she dispatches a note with a request that Merda, once she's available, bring her this set of documents from one of the mage-instructors' personal records on their lowborn student cohort. (She happens to actually want those records, too, for a different pre-existing project; it's annoying to set aside time for it now, but Carissa's arrival will look like a bigger deal if she drops all of her routine work.) 

She waits. 

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Merda arrives, with the files in hand and a characteristically grouchy expression. It's known she doesn't like being around Mindspeakers, even though she has notably good shields. 

:An interesting woman,: she says flatly. :I don't think she plans to be a problem but if she changes her mind she'll be a big one.:

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"If you have a few minutes, I need to dictate a letter," Ellitrea says, in a tone that means this is not really a request. 

 

:I think that matches Ketar's report. I was unsure if he was being soft on her or how much he wasn't saying, I am sure he was not saying everything. He thinks she is - not loyal to Altarrin, not loyal to anyone here, but playing along while he looks like her best option? ...He admits she is probably keeping secrets - meaning she can pull that off even with a Thoughtsenser, and Altarrin might block us from checking her again anyway. But he claimed she was keeping secrets for Altarrin, not from him. What do you think?: 

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:Am I right that he was reading her yesterday when Altarrin had her brought to him?:

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:He was. He reported that she was trying very hard to be cooperative and harmless. - He thinks something changed, between last night and today: 

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:Right. Well, my read is, she thought Altarrin wanted cooperative and harmless, so she was going to give him that, and now she thinks he wants her to do things. I don't know what things, but they must serve the Empire. She's - enough of a lever to do a whole lot of things, and all she has to think is that doing it is safer than not doing it. 

I think your kid would've lied to us to protect her if she had enough context to direct him in doing that. In practice, I think he mostly conveyed what he noticed. He's a shit interrogator, though. When he notices someone is hurting and off-balance he feels bad for them instead of pressing them. I think last night he - watched her prepare herself for Altarrin, or for whatever someone like him would do in the shithole she's from, and he didn't like realizing he was a part of that. 

And then she's not bad at being evasive. It seems like Altarrin doesn't in fact want her pinned down, so - fine. It's his neck.:

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Put like that, it's not suspicious behavior for Altarrin at all. Altarrin has always preferred to work with people who can accomplish things if he hands them resources, and he's used to setting it up so that his goals are in their interests as well. It...still bothers her a little, not knowing what the plan is, but mostly because it leaves her unsure how to prepare for it.  

 

Sigh. :In our debrief he told me about six times that Carissa's world is horrible. I think he - disliked wondering whether we are just as bad. My read is that not - there is doing whatever you need to accomplish anything, and then there is - any lenience or friendliness being considered against their religion and their god's will, and at least we avoid the religion half of that: 

Shrug. :He is a better spy than interrogator, I would be inclined to have him read servants and clerks to track the rumors here, but I should speak to Altarrin about whether we keep him involved at all. Do you have advice one way or another?: 

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:That seems fine to me, he's not going to feel the impulse to protect them and that's where I think his judgement gets worse. You might want to have Altarrin sit down with him and say something soothing about how he does what he can to not hurt his people.: It's not as if there are lots of other Mindspeakers running spare. 

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A faintly dubious look. :If you think he would take Altarrin at his word enough that it would even help? ...I suppose he might, it - fits with the rest: Pause. :You said Carissa lacked enough context to tell Ketar to lie for her. Do you think she has enough context to navigate court politics in general and maintain her cover story, or should Altarrin be keeping her away from people for a few more days?: 

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:I didn't want to linger outrageously long, but I think I got her mostly up to speed. The context she lacked to get Ketar to lie for her was - she's too cynical, too guarded, didn't expect he might want to help her even if she needed it, and hadn't thought of any concrete things that she could get if she did have help to try to angle for. I think she should mostly stay in Altarrin's rooms, maybe occasionally venture out to make it clear he doesn't feel the need to keep that tight a handle on her if I'm confident no one else will try to grab her when that happens. 

She wanted to know if he intends to have her pregnant. - and picked a cover story that makes that less likely, so I bet she's hoping not.:

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:I cannot think of any reason why Altarrin would want to get her pregnant! Anyway, it sounds like she should stay in his rooms for at least the next day or two, while you get a handle on what rumors are circulating and who might be tempted to grab her. I would be inclined to have Ketar report to you, if you think you can work with him, I am actually very busy: 

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:I don't mind him. He was - trying to do the right thing, the blithering idiot.:

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Ellitrea raises an eyebrow. :Altarrin would like him. ...And be exasperated with him, but still: She's just about out of letter material to dictate. :Is that all?: 

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:If she does kill Altarrin do mind that it's his own fault, and not mine.:

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Carissa has a relaxing day reading more books, writing down some notes on metallurgy and spellsilver, and not really thinking about anything, which she is aware might be a strategic mistake but she isn't used to operating with prophecy active and has decided to lie low for a while and doesn't feel safe enough to try to fix any of the inconvenient things about her and her feelings.

 

She's pretty sure, at this point, that while Empires are dangerous places regardless, without the Asmodeanism they're less grindingly awful minute to minute. She's not sure that makes them better-by-her-own-values at all.

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Altarrin works long hours. He spends about half of his day on routine work, which is immensely frustrating but he's behind and he really needs it to not be apparent that Carissa is more interesting and important than the problems down south. He has spy-reports to digest, instructions to send out on where to investigate further and who needs to be detained or recalled or plausibly-deniably given new orders that will keep them out of contact with General Isktar, and also he recently had the benefit of cognitive enhancements and came up with some better ideas for how to intervene closer to the source. Which, in this case, is almost certainly the gods.

He's going to deal with this by minimizing Isktar's interactions with certain people in the newly-conquered territory, by sending him some 'extra staff', including a nobleborn diplomat-type who Altarrin very much does not like or approve of, and who will definitely have negative effects on the morale and cooperativeness of the conquered population, but who should be less susceptible to the obvious forms of manipulation, and will be selective about what he passes on to his superior. It's not a good solution but it should at least disrupt the pattern, and he doesn't think that gods are very good at reacting fast... 

 

About a candlemark before sundown, he sends a note to Carissa - polite, but brief and rather impersonal - apologizing for missing lunch and promising to join her for a late supper. The note is accompanied by about a quarter-pound of spellsilver, processed by the first iteration of a customized spell that his metallurgy-specialist mage developed. He would like Carissa to assess whether it's pure enough to work with. (It isn't.) 

 

He's back at the suite just after sundown, not especially trying to hide that he's tired. 

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The spellsilver's not pure enough but they do have some spellsilver in this chunk of metal, which is honestly very impressive progress for day 1 of trying. She giggles gleefully but only in the suite where no one is likely to hear her or see her.

 

Then she starts poking at her Ring of Sustenance. Why are rings supposedly hard. (It's because of the requirement of continuity and symmetry, obviously, but why are those hard?) Is it one of things that's really hard or just that seems hard if you've never tried to do anything interesting.

 

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If Altarrin is tired then she can carry the dinner conversation with some inane opinions about some of the books he left her. She's tense and on edge, but not really leaking it. She's decided fake Carissa wouldn't bring up the fight with Merda and would hope that no one told Altarrin about it.

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(He's not so tired that he couldn't conceal it entirely and push through if he felt like it, but it's an excuse to retire to his bedroom early rather than lingering over dessert, and it's not like it's a bad idea to imply that he and Carissa kept each other up late last night.) 

No one has told fake Altarrin about the fight, yet, it's the sort of gossip where it isn't necessarily in the gossiper's interests to be first to inform him. (Ellitrea did tell him, as part of the rather abbreviated Mindspeech update they managed to squeeze in when he summoned her to mindread one of the junior officers recalled from the southern deployment to answer some questions.) He can tell she's not relaxed, but only because he's spent quite a lot of time with her in private and seen her in a wider range of moods; he doubts any of the servants can tell. 

He'll respond to her conversational overtures with the air of someone who's putting in some effort to be charming but not, like, really all that much effort, he's already confident that he's impressed her. 

 

And then they can head off to the bedroom so he can hear Carissa's side of how today went.  

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"I didn't get explicit clarification but I assume it's bad if anyone knows what I did to your compulsions, they're obliged to report that or something?"

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"It would have been rather bad if it had come up this morning, especially if there had been no way to warn me so that I could demonstrably have compulsions in place and claim you must have been confused. If it unavoidably comes up in future, it would be much better to imply it was by accident, while testing a spell I had given you permission to cast, and that they were damaged rather than entirely destroyed..." 

They're back in place now, he can confirm. Even Altarrin can't do everything on himself and get it perfect, and going to even one of his trusted mages with no compulsions would risk forcing them to report it to the Emperor, but he was able to go to one of his mages (who he had previously almost-fully filled in on Carissa's secret and Carissa's magic), with self-placed compulsions that were a little...loose...and explaining that it was an unexpected side effect of testing her ability to defend herself against a trap-spell, was enough to leave it plausibly deniable if not entirely believable. 

Sigh. "I already miss not having them, but - they are self-protecting, you should not interfere with them again." At least not while they're still committed to working in the Empire, he doesn't quite think even to himself. "Why do you ask - was there a close call? I assume I would know by now if someone had found out." 

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"No. Ketar wanted to know if I'd used magic to affect you, but was satisfied that I hadn't done anything to you that wasn't done in your service and known to you. ...Chelish interrogators would have been more thorough."

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"A Thoughtsenser who wanted information to use against me would have been more thorough, too - which is why I want to keep you away from Thoughtsensers who are not loyal to me, or at least - inexperienced and reluctant to hurt people."

Altarrin immediately moved to sit down on the bed, but on reflection he kind of wants to be horizontal. He stretches out. "- I imagine that would be a serious liability, in Cheliax. Preferring not to hurt people, I mean. I think it is...not as serious a sign of hopeless naïveté, here, though certainly one needs to grow out of it in order to accomplish things. But it is less dangerous by itself, just - if someone is trying to plot as well." 

Sigh. "Do you think you have a better handle on the politics, here? Ellitrea said that she sent Merda to explain some things, and that she arranged a way to speak privately. I am curious what you think." And also curious if Merda mentioned her own history with Altarrin, but if not, he's not going to be the one to bring it up. It was a long time ago. 

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"She explained some of the same people and complications you spoke of this morning. - from a different angle and with different emphases. She thinks it won't hold up forever but it'd take bad luck for it to fall apart particularly soon. She said I'm competent to lie to people, where that's useful, and she said she's going to learn more and then plan some excursions for me, to show you aren't worried enough to keep a particularly tight grip." Carissa assumes Altarrin is that worried, but that doesn't mean they want it to look that way.

Pause. "She speaks highly of you." Mostly by contrast to everyone else, who Merda had lengthy and detailed condemnations of.

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"Huh. I do not think she ever spoke highly of me to my face, I was under the impression she dislikes but grudgingly tolerates me, which seems to be her attitude towards mages and nobles in general. That plan sounds reasonable. Maybe I will invite some people to dinners here as well, to give people a source we control for their rumors about you." 

 

He yawns. "I should ask you if you have ideas on spellsilver purification but today was very long. I can have the mage-engineer visit you here tomorrow?" 

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"I can speak with him tomorrow. If you can use magic to get it halfway, as the sample today, I do know how to do the rest alchemically, though it's a slower process that way."

 

When he moves, or yawns, or smiles, she tenses very slightly, though she's mostly still projecting being competent and cooperative and intellectually invested in the project and so on. 

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He's tired enough not to notice this immediately, but he notices it when, thinking of a question about the alchemical process, he rolls over to prop his head up on his elbow. (He is not quite alert enough to notice whether it's in response to anything that he's doing.) 

"- Is everything all right?" He frowns at her. "You seem - worried about something. I am tired but if we need to plan for a thread you are concerned about, I can manage that tonight." 

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She is very slightly baffled by the question, and after a second of thought doesn't hide it. "...I'm in a precarious position, on a planet without afterlives. I have no more specific complaints." Just stupid internal injuries and the memory of Ketar's eyes widening when he saw them.

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Ketar did not report those observations to anyone, and so Altarrin has no way of knowing about it and only the haziest guess of the sort of specifics that might be bothering Carissa. 

He blinks. "I know the lack of afterlives bothers you. It bothers me too. But - our position is really not that precarious, not right now. Your cover story is being spread all over the court, as intended, and seems to have gone over without suspicion and so far resulted in only mild curiosity. I think the Empire often fails to take foreigners seriously, we are very - self-satisfied in our position as the most advanced civilization in the world - and this is a weakness but right now in our favor. We underweight Wild Gifts that do not standardize, and to some extent mind-gifts in particular, relative to mage-gift; your transport magic does not overall look more impressive than Gates. Anyway, I am nearly certain that no one will consider it worth their while to try to grab you in the next couple of weeks, if I take the obvious basic precautions that would make it costly. And the gods cannot reach us here quickly or with any fine control, if they can reach us at all. We have time to - figure something out." 

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- she nods. What else could she possibly do? A couple weeks, to put herself together and get secure enough to think and get over herself and then be useful and safe and someday immortal. 

 

And she lies down as far away as she can reasonably be without causing offense, and tries to rest.

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Something is bothering Carissa. But there are a hundred things that really should be bothering her - that are bothering Altarrin as well - and it seems unlikely that pushing her any harder on the details is going to help. 

(She doesn't want to touch him - which is fair enough, really, and she won't be the first of the women he's sheltered in his bedchambers who felt that way. It's really not offensive, or surprising, and he has no choice but to touch her in front of spies, if he wants the ruse to hold, but there's no reason at all to touch her in private. 

She would read something into it if he offered to sleep on a camp-bed on the floor, though, and he has a sense it would bother her that he noticed, and even moreso that he offered to accommodate it. Carissa doesn't want to think of herself as someone fragile enough to need that – and she isn't. It's fine. He'll sleep over here, and - at least when nothing has happened recently to give him nightmares - Altarrin doesn't move much in his sleep. He won't come anywhere near touching her during the night.) 

 

As usual, he sleeps much longer, but there are books for her to read when she wakes, and paper for notes, and the sample spellsilver.

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She wakes up. She prepares her spells.

 

At some point the stupidest and most dangerous mistake you can make is to not think, and that point sneaks up on you fast. She had a five minute window, maybe, when Keltham first arrived, to notice she wanted to kill Asmodeus, before she told Maillol and then everything became - not impossible, but very difficult -

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Okay. Current situation: not one of the best she's ever been in. She needs substantial expertise and help to get spellsilver and without spellsilver she's flatly not very capable. Anyone capable of helping her get spellsilver is probably a mage, because these people just don't do mining and metal extraction any other way, and any mage can compulsion her, and they have already done so. The gods, if Altarrin can be trusted at all, oppose things like all the things she might want to do. There aren't afterlives. 

On the bright side, if dying here is sufficiently abrupt she'll just wake up somewhere else, if there's anywhere else, if the universe isn't structured such that you get one more chance and not two. Keltham was sure if the principle held at all it ought to go on holding forever. She - sees the argument, now, but it still feels chillingly plausible that the fundamental underlying structure of everything isn't the one that'd produce that behavior. Even given that she's here. It's - better than nothing but it isn't enough to quiet the part of her that screams when threatened with total destruction. 

Also on the bright side, Altarrin thinks she's useful and let her keep her headband and as long as she has his goodwill she will in fact get spellsilver access and then be able to do anything that doesn't make waves in prophecy, which probably at least includes 'being alive and well-defended'.

 

She never gave the end of prophecy a lot of thought. It was before her time. And it's obvious now that she thinks about it that it was a blow to Asmodeus, who has less ability to interface with mortals than many of the other gods, and prefers to operate more illegibly to mortals, and prefers mortals to shape themselves in a legible-to-prophecy fashion. Cheliax's existence was good for Asmodeus, of course, but it was a corrective at significant expense so he could win under more adverse circumstances. And of course Cheliax and the Church were not exactly going to concede that anything, ever, had been bad for Asmodeus, so they wouldn't have talked about it.

But in hindsight...without prophecy ended, the gods would have seen swiftly that many possible routes for Keltham destroyed the world, and stopped that. Which is good, if you like the world. Of course, they'd probably have done that by squishing him, which is bad if you like Keltham - and she does, she wouldn't've conceived this entire terrifyingly dangerous plan if she hadn't, she would've just told Otolmens to crush him but she owes him better than that - 

- probably she's not going to get much of anywhere by picking over the last six months. She made awful stupid horrendous mistakes, she did terrible things, she betrayed not just Keltham but more or less everyone who trusted her or believed in her or tried to protect her, she did all that for a lie she could have seen through at any time, she won't even get to channel all that knowledge into something emotionally satisfying and sufficient-as-punishment like selling her soul to right her wrongs, she just has to not do it again here, in this world, which is going to be enough of a problem without bringing all of the problems that she already has. 

Checking that the books weren't faked doesn't change how achingly devoid of context she is. She has exactly what Altarrin wanted her to see, and he's being very generous and reasonable and she cannot trust that at all and she doesn't even want to, trusting it feels like it would be even more terrifying than distrusting it is. And whether Altarrin faked it or not, he's given her the very convincing impression that even if she could run she has nowhere to go. The gods can see her and destroy her for anything she might do in any future they can see, and she's not a well-shaped kind of mortal for that. She could try to become one - she did make useful corrigibility progress for Aspexia, but -

- but the whole problem, right, is that devils don't care that much if they die, that to be corrigible and safe-in-the-eyes-of-the-gods is to not want things that span too much, that take too much to fulfill, that you'd go to surprising lengths for, and her wants span several universes at this point.

And it's not the kind of wanting you can silence. If she had a way to not want immortality she wouldn't use it, that's what wanting immortality means. She can't be small anymore, not really, and Altarrin has argued persuasively she can't live being ambitious without his protection, which he also doesn't promise will be sufficient.

That - the not promising - it's decency, or a sign of Law, and both of those are good signs about him, she should be glad to have his not-promise, but she isn't, because there's still a part of her that believes what it is told and would believe she was safe if he promised AND THEN MAYBE THE INTERNAL SCREAMING WOULD BE A BIT QUIETER.

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Current emotional state: also not one of the best she has been in. Thinking about it for five minutes, this is pretty plainly because in the last month Keltham discovered the truth, she spent a very long time being tortured about it, she got pulled out because Asmodia had killed herself, she came back to everything falling apart and hurt people she cared about indiscriminately in case it would help, and then she realized that literally everything she'd done in her life had been awful and insane and incorrect and incoherent, and then she showed up here and was taken prisoner.

If you made a baseline projection about her emotional state from that set of facts, you'd probably assume that her emotional state was pathetic. And you'd be right. She feels - lonely, which makes sense given that she is never again going to see anyone she cares about, but which is ridiculous given the considerable lengths Altarrin has gone to to give her people to advise her and fulfill her requests, plus the time he's himself invested. She feels tense and scared, which isn't making her more able to respond to actual problems and is getting in the way of seducing Altarrin which would obviously be a good idea if she weren't pathetic. She feels - this enormous cloud of doubt and horror, this conviction that all her own reasoning could be just as bad as it was last week and therefore might be worse than nothing - shame and misery and the spectacularly unproductive impulse to rehearse everything in her head as if she was going to get the chance to live it again - she got this brief glimpse of what it was to be ambitious, and now she can't go back on it but she's also not smart enough or capable enough to actually be ambitious, and the one thing that felt reliably true of herself, that she could endure anything, feels in doubt. 

She needs - what does she need. She needs to sell her soul to Hell in penance for her idiocy and worthlessness. She can't do that and also that's a terrible way to make decisions even if it was an available option. She needs Keltham to yell at her until she gets annoyed enough to start thinking about whether he's right or being an idiot. She can...try to do that to herself? But the problem is the enormous cloud of horror prompted by looking at all of her own past decisions and reasoning, and it's hard to get past the question "do I suck enough I just shouldn't do stuff" by listening to arguments you came up with yourself.

She needs to be useful and admired and valued and then she'll stop feeling so full of despair all the time. Well, that should really be attainable. She's in fact very valuable here. 

She needs to be safe. Maybe once she's admired, valued, etc. enough and they have a plan for dealing with the gods.

She needs to not be pathetic. All of this thinking doesn't even feel like a step in the right direction but if she doesn't do it probably she'll continue making mistakes of the magnitude of previous mistakes she has made, and that's really not the kind of mistake-magnitude you survive twice.

 

She needs...godhood. Immortality. Fifty pounds of spellsilver. And a unicorn familiar who'll love her forever.  At some point needing things is just an exercise in making yourself upset about the actual universe that actually exists where everything that matters happens.

 

What does she need that she can have. 

 

To make herself useful, mostly. The present situation is an imposition on Altarrin which he's abiding because she's very valuable; she'll feel less pressure as soon as she starts delivering the things he wants. She'll even be less upset about sex, probably, if it happens because he's pleased with her for her work instead of because she's conveniently right there or because he gets tired of her being flinchy at him. 

(Is that something she's going to aim for? Probably? The current situation doesn't seem very sustainable, not on the scale of years, and if she tries to make it happen then it'll be so much less upsetting if it happens. The obvious lesson of Past Events is that you should never put yourself in a situation where you've convinced yourself people won't have sex with you, because then if they do it'll be all upsetting.)

(Hey, emotional-pain-distorted-model-of-Keltham, is there something you want me to do about having promised to be yours and then ended up with my continuity of consciousness on another planet where you never existed?)

Probably he would say that dath ilan, having figured out the true nature of reality where people frequently find their continuity of consciousness on other planets where their loved ones never existed, carefully phrased everyone's romantic promises via subtle influences in fiction in such a way as to make it clear that on other planets where your loved ones never existed you should do what makes you happy. If he didn't tell her to go jump off the tallest available building. 

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Well, that's a plan, of sorts. Make lots of impressive spellsilver things, bask in praise, get on a more stable footing, figure out what she needs to hack lichdom. Conveniently there's a person right here who knows the answer and might be persuaded to share it. 

 

She shouldn't be able to get tired just a few hours after waking up, not really, not with a Ring of Sustenance. But she's abruptly exhausted, and crawls back into bed because it feels like the alternative would be hurting herself enough to prevent herself from bursting into tears, and Altarrin's going to be way more suspicious of that than of a nap.

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In which case she might still be in bed when Altarrin wakes up, before dawn. He sits up and slides out of bed on the side opposite her. Doesn't look at her until he has his shirt on, at which point he - doesn't smile, exactly, but his expression is as unguarded as she's ever seen it. He looks tired and sad and - like someone she can really believe is centuries old, and has spent most of that time in the Empire he wishes were dath ilan instead. 

"I am meeting with the Emperor today," he says. "I can avoid showing you to him in person for weeks, I think, he is very busy - he knows there is a little more to the story than the public version, but not details, and he will trust me with them. I will demonstrate the Glibness pin today, but - as soon as we have enough pure spellsilver for it, I think it would be good to prioritize some real demonstration artifacts - the Emperor will be more willing to prioritize a large and expensive mining project once he sees more of your work, in the meantime we are more limited. The headbands are a good case, of course, but can you do the translation as a magic item as well, that works for others? Either one-time-use or permanent." 

Pause. 

"And the mindreading. I am not going to make it public just yet that you have this ability, but it would be very useful for me, even if it is shorter-duration than Thoughtsensing. At some point I may need to urgently travel for real either to deal with Iftel or with the south, and will not be able to bring a Thoughtsenser with me. ...Also, I want you to work on a magic item for a Teleport. While I am here, I can reach you and then have us five hundred miles away in seconds, if - conditions change rapidly - but I will feel more secure in our contingency-planning if you can do it on your own." 

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This earns him a smile back. This is a totally acceptable-to-Carissa way to use her. "A headband I can do in a day with six ounces of spellsilver. Once I learn rings I can do a translation ring, so - two weeks, probably, and twelve ounces. It'll be permanent. Detect Thoughts...four days, ten ounces. I can probably just master a Teleport while I'm working on the other projects, it doesn't actually have to be an item, but I can try to make Boots of Teleport once we've got higher production. That'd be about two pounds of spellsilver. I was also going to make you a Ring of Sustenance, like mine, so you can sleep less. That's not much spellsilver at all but I do have to figure out rings so I don't want to promise I'll have it this week."


All of the timelines have some give in them in case he's a "do it in half that time or suffer" kind of person with project planning, which is a good thing to know about him now.

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He's going to get out paper and start sketching a schedule! 

"Headbands are quick, take the least spellsilver, and are honestly more impressive than translation. ...Harder to explain as a Wild Gift, but I imagine the effects of the least powerful headband are less stark, and I could float a theory that it is like Healing, and increases mental sharpness by imitating a stimulant. Anyway, once we have enough spellsilver, I think it makes sense to have you focus on those for a few days, until we have a sample to show the Emperor and the ministers who would be signing off on funding a new mine site." 

He's frowning, completely focused on his paper. "I suspect it will take a few days before we have even six ounces to you in sufficient purity – I think the current sample will end up being half that – but we will probably have small-scale production running by the end of this week. The current limit on volume is how much of the ores we can redirect from existing mining sites without the Emperor signing off on officially funding a new mine site, but Delias - the metallurgy-expert mage I put on this project - thinks we can get three or four pounds per week of spellsilver, that way, so I am inclined to take our time and go through the usual approval channels for the larger project. Delias thought yesterday that he could have a spell ready for secondary processing in two days, which would get us to significantly higher although not perfect purity, but he tends to be optimistic on his estimates so - plan on three days, and then eight to ten ounces of pure spellsilver per day until our new mine begins producing. 

"In the meantime, you said you can purify it from here alchemically. How long would that actually take for this quantity? Does it take twice as long to do twice as much, or is it more efficient to batch it? It might make sense to have you working on that for the next few days, but I need to know what that would trade off against, you also need to study rings...?" 

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"I do need to study rings but I'll learn rings faster with spellsilver to try things on. To do it alchemically, I'd need to grind the metal down to dust and then add calcium and wash it in acid through a few stages. I could probably get a few ounces out of it in the next few days."

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Nod. "Could you do it faster with a mage's assistance on some of the steps? ...I am not sure this is a good use of your time - it might help Delias figure out his technique faster, if he can observe how you do it, but not by much. Do you think you would get more value from doing this or from reading more books on our magic?" 

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"I think I'd rather get spellsilver faster. I can read the books when your staff is sleeping, and - the books aren't likely to feature anything that changes my short term plans."

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"All right." Altarrin makes a note on one of the papers. "What kind of setup do you need for that? ...We should set up a Work Room for you - I can give it shielding so we could speak openly there, but it should also have whatever protections are actually important for your alchemy." 

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"It's not actually that dangerous, our only casualty was a girl who, uh, probably jumped into the vats of acid on purpose. You need good air exchange, that's about it."

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"- I am guessing it is not actually relevant for me to know why she - probably - jumped into a vat of acid on purpose -" 

 

 

"I can make sure there is good air exchange." 

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"I don't know why. I guess I'll never know. Thank you."  

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Well, she clearly doesn't want to talk about it. 

Altarrin sighs. "I think that is everything we need to plan for today. ...Breakfast? I can be preoccupied or in a hurry this morning, if that is - easier for you, for the pretending." 

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The true answer, insofar as there's such a thing inside a muddled mortal being, is 'please do not make tradeoffs between my safety and my happiness at any exchange rate expressible without complicated mathematical notation for very large numbers', plus 'if you indulge me in being weak, some part of me will learn the habit and start trying to solve its problems by being weak', but that seems awfully personal to say to someone you don't actually know. 

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"I don't mind; whatever's convenient."

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What's convenient for him is to be somewhat rushed - he really does have a lot to do today! and tomorrow, and for the foreseeable future! - but not too preoccupied to be warm with her. 

Over the meal he mostly talks about the situation in the south, at least the not-especially-sensitive elements of it. It's characteristic of him – he picks women who are clever and insightful, and then likes to think out loud with them – and pretty much anything related to his political work is going to be filling in useful context for Carissa, right now. 

So he can pull out a map, and explain their current difficulty! They recently annexed a region called the Tozoa Plains (now Tozoa Province). It was an obvious choice; plenty of arable land, far enough south for a long growing season, previously limited by its dry inland climate and a lack of major bodies of water for irrigation but the Empire can easily build aqueduct infrastructure and canals over the next decade, at which point they expect high agricultural productivity. It had been inhabited by nomadic herding clans with no state-level structures to organize resistance; it was cheap to conquer. 

They would like to move further south and annex the main body of Oris, the kingdom that on paper used to hold the Plains as an outlying province (but did not especially mount a resistance; they hadn't even been able to administer or collect taxes on the plainspeople, let alone farm the arid plains.) 

The issue is that they're now stretching their non-Gate supply chains rather far, and the canals and canal-Gates won't be complete for a decade. The plains are separated from Tolmassar Province, the region directly north, by a mountain range. Marching on Oris overland, or supplying their army, can only be done via Widow's Pass, which is a difficult crossing;

The straight-line path from Jacona that would avoid inconvenient mountain ranges – the route along which they want to place a canal – would run through Taymyrr, which is (or recently was, rather) a well-defended kingdom, though not nearly as wealthy or organized as the Empire. They've now conquered about half of its total land area; they're now holding Stormhaven, the capital, and have the former king under compulsions. But they're running into substantial remaining resistance – both in the southern half, which consists of a looser patchwork of feudal holdings that shouldn't really be able to coordinate their forces nearly this effectively, and local resistance in the garrisoned region.

The resistance is ostensibly getting support from Zoskin, the small and very mountainous state directly south of its border, but Altarrin is suspicious that those resources actually come from the Empire of Holy Ithik – which, like Iftel, has a state religion, though not a magical barrier to go with it. The Holy Empire shares a border with Jacona province, and has historically been on rather tense diplomatic terms with the Eastern Empire, though there's never been a land war in either direction. 

 

The military commander leading the invasion in Taymyrr, General Isktar, is competent, and has the important trait of maintaining strict troop discipline and tending to treat conquered peoples relatively well, which matters in this case because Taymyrr had a reasonably functional bureaucracy and infrastructure before this, and incorporating them will be cheaper for the Empire if they can work with the existing nobility rather than replacing them. There's no one Altarrin would rather have in charge. But, at the same time, Isktar is...maybe not paranoid enough to stay on top of an underground resistance. 

(He doesn't outright say that the problem is that Isktar doesn't dislike the gods strongly enough, but it's there to be read between the lines.) 

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Cheliax was failing.

She hadn't been prompted to think about this since she started being allowed to think, but it was blindingly obvious, once you got a look at an expanding empire. Cheliax lost Rahadoum, lost Molthune, lost Andoran, lost Galt, lost the overseas colonies, and Abrogail stemmed the bleeding but didn't actually gain anything until Keltham's arrival and the war with Nidal. This - this patchwork of provinces in varying states of pacification - this is what a successful empire looks like. Or one that's overstretched itself and is going to rip itself apart. One of those. "Why do permanent Gates and canals take ten years?"

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"A standard permanent Gate threshold - one that can move people and lightweight goods at small scale - is much faster! Tozoa Province has one each in Tatanha and Naushahan, and several in Tahahau as well as a larger road-Gate for heavier cargo. But the most efficient way to transport bulk goods through a Gate is on a canal, and canals take years to excavate unless we are executing an unreasonable number of dissidents for the blood-power, and I prefer not to incentivize that, so the standard project timeline is a decade for a province the size of Tozoa or Taymyrr. And we try to plan canal systems that can be used without Gates, for non-perishable goods like ore, and that could be operational even if the Gate-network went down entirely. It is - less necessary, now that centuries have passed since the last mage-storms, but - there could be other disruptions to magic."

(And the Mage Storms will come back, someday, and at the start he hadn't been sure if it would be in five hundred years or twenty-five hundred. It's closer to the second one, it turns out, but he still wanted to build his Empire to last.

 

Will it last? Even if he abandons it to go off somewhere with Carissa and build a new god, a project that might take them centuries? ...He thinks so. He isn't sure, and it won't be - nice - it'll be worse than it is now, even, more like Cheliax - and he's suddenly so so tired. He mostly hides it.) 

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"How many dissidents does the Empire kill for blood power?" Fake-Carissa isn't Chelish and so doesn't instinctively sound entirely blasé about this, though she's also obviously determined not to be a dissident in this Empire so she doesn't sound that bothered either.

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"It depends on the Emperor." Altarrin's unhappiness is only very very faintly noticeable. "Or the regional governor, for provinces that - operate more independently. I would have to look up the figures for this year, but our current Emperor is - relatively conservative, the death sentence is mostly reserved for treason and he does not especially put pressure on the judges to meet a quota. ...Tozoa has a high rate, but they are recently conquered, they are still going to be rooting out dissidents loyal to the previous regime. Several hundred a year there, I think - the population density is still low - my guess would be around five thousand per year across the whole Empire, but our population at the last full census was thirty million, per capita it is not very large." 

 

(That's not actually most of it. The mage-General in charge of the military operations side of things has ambitions, wants to move on from purely military positions and advance in politics, and Altarrin is fairly sure that he's leaning on his people to get enough blood-power that he'll come in ahead of schedule on canal and aqueduct construction, and the regional governor assigned to the province isn't the sort of person to get in his way.) 

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Does fake Carissa think that's high? Low? Real Carissa thinks it's pretty low. If you could build canals with blood power at home it'd probably be a considerable drag on population growth and the entire object of overseas wars.

Fake Carissa has no sense of the numbers but does understand that she's not one of them because she broke into the palace while useful.  She smiles at Altarrin. "Thirty million. That's so many. So you have to advise them on how to take Oris? And don't want to wait for the canals to be built?"

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"I have been advising them not to try to conquer Oris until we have pacified Taymyrr, our supply chains are really quite stretched. Once we have Taymyrr, we can very cheaply re-pave the existing trade roads that run to Oris, and run a road from the core Empire land and place cargo-capacity Gates on it - and within a decade have full canal access, but that does take longer - but even just the roads would be enough that I would feel confident we can take and administer Oris." 

Pause. 

"And it would be - doing them a favor, right, they are so poor - only one in twenty people know how to read, there - according to our spies, which is admittedly not the most reliable information source, but -" 

 

(It's the standard propaganda. That any state or kingdom or nomadic people conquered by the Eastern Empire is better off, in the long run, because it's worth it, to give them schools and aqueducts and canal-Gates that will send shipments of grain if their region sees a drought. And Altarrin still isn't sure that's false, but...it's more complicated than that, isn't it.) 

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Chelish Carissa would've agreed wholeheartedly. It was where she stuffed all her Good-shaped impulses, in the conviction that smart children should be found and sent to wizard school.

Fake Carissa, her mage-school extinguished in conquest, her Good impulses having never needed stuffing in any particular place, isn't as sure. She shrugs. "You're stronger than them. And if you weren't, someone else would be."

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Altarrin cannot read Carissa's mind and can only guess at her thoughts, but he's...even more tired and sad, for some reason. 

 

"No one else is stronger. At least not yet - maybe someday, when the world has had longer to recover - but the Empire is the richest and most organized civilization on this continent, I am confident of that. I suppose unless you count Iftel, they might have considerable wealth inside their god's barrier, but - well, when you trade for protection with a god," and he says it scoffingly, like something that doesn't call for any further clarification. 

There are a lot of things he could say, and some of them he even wants to say, but unfortunately they're being watched, here, and also he's not sure Carissa wants to hear it. 

 

 

He reaches out to stroke her hair; he's overdue on casually touching her. "I need to go soon. My work never stops." But he can look at her like he's mildly disappointed about this, and it's not even really acting. 

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Fake Carissa leans into him, happy, relaxed, annoyed that he's so busy. "All the things you've done for them and they just give you work and more work." And also pretty girls and the right to station a guard at their door, but fake Carissa isn't thinking of it that way, not exactly. It's a Chelish framing.

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They don't really have anything else to discuss urgently, right now, and there are about a thousand important though non-urgent things they could and really should talk about but they can't do that in his living room with servants watching and some unknown number of mages scrying them. 

 

- he leans in and kisses her on the lips, briefly and hopefully in a way that isn't too startling. (Should he have warned her that this was something he might do? He isn't sure. He - is fairly sure that she'll handle it, that part isn't in question, it just - still feels like there's some cost being paid, there, that he doesn't fully understand, and won't until she actually trusts him, on a personal level, enough to talk to him more openly, and he needs to earn that trust, and doesn't really expect to succeed, he's - not exactly shaped for personal-level trust and intimacy -) 

 

He leaves. 

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Carissa stays where she is, looking happy and relaxed and mildly disappointed in his departure, until her heart has stopped pounding for no reason because it's taking marching orders from some idiot which isn't her brain. 

 

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Then she retreats to safety to study rings. Rings make sense. Rings aren't weak and pathetic. 

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Altarrin will get her a Work Room. That's obviously high priority. He has it set up by that afternoon, and he doesn't make it over himself to tell her - he's in fact very busy and he's not sure it would help anyway - but a (young, un-Gifted, and clearly inexperienced and scared-of-her) palace messenger arrives, and escorts her to said Work Room, while nervously explaining all of the protections on it. 

(They include shields against scrying, and Thoughtsensing, and half a dozen other kinds of mage-technique that may not even translate for Carissa. Altarrin will explain it to her later, if necessary, but the end conclusion is that her Work Room is almost as thoroughly shielded as his bedroom suite.) 

It has all of the materials she requested, and good ventilation, and a half-pound of partially purified spellsilver waiting for her. (It's cheap to do with Velgarth magic once the initial spell is developed.) 

 

 

They meet for a late supper - he'll send someone to summon her over, if she's still working by the time he finishes his own meetings - and he hurries it as much as he can (which does involve some more demonstrative affection, though he tries to telegraph it in advance, as much as he can without being able to talk about it) -

- and once they're back in the privacy of his bedroom, he can immediately back off and sit on the opposite side of the bed from her and update her on his plans and their other research - (the south is still a problem; Delias thinks he'll have a second-phase spell in two days and Altarrin is more confident in this, it doesn't seem worth revealing more of Carissa's magic to him to accelerate it) - and ask her how her spellsilver alchemy is going... 

Delias gets the spell within two days. Even just siphoning off raw ore of probably-the-right-type from existing mines, it looks like they're going to be able to hit 10 to 12 ounces of very-nearly-purified spellsilver per day. 

 

Altarrin checks with Carissa whether she still thinks the best plan is to focus on making headbands for a week or so, until she has enough samples for the Emperor to make some generous gifts to all the ministers who might quibble with directing some of the treasury funds to a new mine in the Isk Province. They've already scoped out the site. It's very far north, and unfortunately close to Iftel, but the main reason they've been holding Isk at all is that their mage-engineering surveys suggested it had substantial ore deposits - of a number of metals, mostly ones that were more clearly useful to the Empire before they knew that "spellsilver" existed, but they have records of ores meeting the description Carissa gave.

 

 

 

 

(....Altarrin's vague geology theories hint that the northeastern bulb of Iftel – it's really such an oddly-shaped border, which would make more sense if not for the immutable magical barrier being the actual determining factor – probably has an even higher density of potentially valuable mining sites. He - is going to be pretty frustrated if it turns out that Vkandis set the borders of Iftel in order to deny him, personally, access to useful natural resources. 

He doesn't dwell on this much, but he does mention it to Carissa at one point, when they're lying carefully apart on opposite sides of his bed, safely behind shields.) 

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Carissa may be literally the most qualified person not just in this world but also in the world she's from to set up a magical crafting and spellsilver mining operation and she is happy to work full time on that and have daily updates for Altarrin and stay out of trouble and not rattle the bars on her cage even a little bit. (This is, someone who knew her well enough might guess, not a good sign. A fully functional Carissa would definitely have tried complaining about the breakfast pastries by now.) She can make a headband a day and have plenty for the Emperor, would Altarrin rather Wisdom or Cunning or Splendour? She's tinkering with rings and thinks she can probably do one, which would he like to have first?

 

She tells herself that Altarrin is handsome and sensible and generous, but she hasn't actually tried moving closer to him, because she doesn't have any idea what will happen if she breaks the rules they're presently playing by. 

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"You don't think He wants the mining deposits for His own operations? Even if His people can't use spellsilver, there's plenty of uses for iron."

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"...I cannot be sure, but I think I would have noticed if Iftel were mining iron at a large scale. I am sure they are using it at a small scale, for - swords, and such. But, they do significant trade and exports, despite the barrier, and I think it would be noticeable either in what they were selling or in what they were buying."

Shrug. "Or perhaps I am unreasonably biased against all of our gods. But - it certainly seems as though Iftel is a country that mostly - has vineyards, and trades in fine wines and exotic strains of flowers. And not - the goods I would expect to see from a society that is industrializing." 

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"If you were a god, how would you rule them?"

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This feels like a very unfair question - it's late, he's tired, he's spent all of today and of the last week and of the last forty years thinking constantly about how to work within the constraints of the Eastern Empire as a– well, not a mortal, but as a human alongside other humans - 

...It's an interesting question, though. He considers it. 

 

"I think - the sort of god I would want to be, or build, would not need or want to rule over the people of the Empire? I think - ruling is a human concept, that makes sense in a world of other humans, but I would not want to rule over - fish, or ants, or forests." 

...That feels like the wrong connotation, for what he's trying to say, but he doesn't have the energy to correct it right now. 

"- I think if I were a god, working - for mortals, in this world - I would want to...build a stable foundation for them. Give them - safety, predictability, wealth and resources and many affordances to try different plans that might or might not work but - would not burn down the whole world if they failed. And then I would - want to see what they– what we - could do with that." 

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Carissa would want to rule them. She doesn't say that, though. It doesn't feel like a spectacularly safe thought, even. 

Instead she cautiously edges closer to him. "Sounds nice."

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Altarrin notices her sliding closer to him, and - this is confusing - they're behind his shields right now, they don't have to pretend - so Carissa isn't pretending, right now - but she might still be playing a game and if so it's one he doesn't really feel like playing. 

"Does it."

....The tone is off, it's one Carissa might read as hostile. He didn't mean it that way. He's just - tired.

(He sort of misses having his bedroom to himself. All of this is presumably much, much harder on Carissa than it is on him, but.) 

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She keeps aaaaaaaalllll of her screaming internal. She's very good at that. 

Was he - angry with her for lying? Does he have a way to tell? Why betray that there, though - 

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- however careful you're being, be more careful than that -

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"...dunno. Good night." She sounds calm, and not scared. Being easily scared is a form of being tedious and hard to deal with. Besides that, she's Chelish. If he wants to make her act scared he has to earn it. Everything she's been her entire life has to be worth something. So, calm, relaxed, not upset, not injured.

 

She'll scoot away once he's not looking and not parsing it as part of this interaction.

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...he hasn't failed to notice that Carissa sounds calm like that when she's upset or stressed. 

It's very tempting to just...sleep, and let Carissa ask him for things in words if she wants something to be different from how it is right now, because right now he desperately wants the space between these four walls to be one where they don't have to play games - he would just say that to her, if he expected it to land rather than making her even more anxious and confused. He's not sure there are any words he could say that would convince Carissa that he does, genuinely, want to be allies, it's not any more complicated than that, but she's just going to take any string of words he can possibly say and try to infer what complicated game he's playing with her, and she - doesn't endorse him spending this much thought on figuring out what she needs to feel safe. 

 

(What would it be like in a world where they weren't pretending, where they didn't need a cover story to survive the Empire he built around the invisible constraints of the gods. Where he wouldn't be instinctively worrying what she was playing at, where he could - take it at face value, that she wanted to be closer to him, and decide what he wanted, and go from there.) 

He looks the other way. 

"I am sorry I was snappish," he says, as gently as he can manage right now. "I am not - upset with you, I am never going to be angry with you for disagreeing with me - I am just very tired." Sigh. "It would be good to have a ring of sustenance, I suppose, I am probably too old for this pace." He meant this particularly body, but right now it feels true on a deeper level, which is ridiculous.

He lies down. "Good night." 

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She doesn't know what to make of that either, but she'll lie down far away from him and try to sleep.

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Altarrin has her make headbands of Wisdom, Cunning, and Splendor, and puts together a demonstration (and bribe package) for the Emperor and the ministers involved in approving a new mining project. 

They open a new mine in Isk. It's not just for Carissa's spellsilver, they'll get other metals from it too; he doesn't think it's terrible conspicuous or likely to draw attention to their project. Altarrin makes a day trip to the site. He doesn't invite Carissa, though he does talk through most of the relevant decisions with her. It'll be a week or so before they're getting any spellsilver back, and he's not going to push hard on volume unless Carissa thinks she could actually make use of hundreds of pounds of spellsilver per week.

They hammer out a contract agreement on paying Carissa for her work. It's a lot less than Altarrin thinks the work is actually worth - and he says so to Carissa, apologetically - because one of the constraints is that it needs to come out of the Emperor's discretionary budget, to avoid drawing any further attention to Carissa. Maybe at some future point she can openly sell items to the court mages and nobles, and get closer to a fair market price for work that only she can do. 

It still comes to a substantial salary. She could afford to rent a (small) house in the city, if she wanted, and her own servants, and definitely an extensive wardrobe and jewelry. In practice, right now, she lives in Altarrin's suite and doesn't really have...expenses...but Altarrin does make sure to point out that she would have that option.

 

 

The Emperor wants rings for translation once Carissa figures that out; they have enough spellsilver for it even without the mine's production. Altarrin asks her to make him a Ring of Sustenance. He's not sleeping enough, and having those extra hours at night will make it much easier to keep up with an entire side project without letting any of his other routine work slide. He claims one of the headbands for Splendor. It helps a lot in meetings, and it makes it easier to put on a face that isn't tired and sad. 

He wants an item of Detect Thoughts, but if Carissa still expects that to take four days, the Emperor's requisitions should come first. 

 

 

 

One of the mine personnel dies in a horrible and rather implausible accident. Altarrin is upset. He speculates in private with Carissa about Iftel, about Vkandis, but he can't figure out how to causally isolate the project from god-influence any further, he doesn't seen an obvious human route of interference. He redoes the safety protocols. The first shipment back of purified spellsilver - ten pounds of it - is delayed by two days. 

 

Altarrin hosts private dinners in his suite, sometimes, and briefs Carissa on the attendees in advance. He brings her to a couple of small formal events. He explains that she doesn't speak the language and can use her Wild Gift to make artifacts that imitate a little-known Gift that does translation, but the simpler version of it only lets her understand them and not speak. 

He checks in with Merda and Ketar - what's the status on rumors about Carissa? Altarrin would like to at some point let her go to court events without him, if and when Merda thinks it's safe. 

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Rumors have definitely spread that it's an incredibly useful WIld Gift! People are variously impressed or annoyed by this, depending how they feel about Altarrin. There's some speculation that the pretty girl Altarrin drags around is a distraction or cover of some kind - maybe someone else has the Gift and he's trying to keep attention off them? Maybe it's a technique he or she or someone else discovered and he's just trying to make sure people think that no one can do it but her? No one's gotten anywhere trying to do it themselves, though. There's a conspiracy theory that the headbands don't actually do anything, they just make you think you're clever.

A few people have of course asked Altarrin if they can employ Carissa for their own projects, but not with any real expectation he'll say yes. 


Merda thinks it's probably safe enough for her to go to events, assuming she's guarded against someone just grabbing her; none of the rumors get at the truth, and none of them seem to grasp that the implications go beyond nice jewelry rich people will have. 

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(Carissa does not at all believe she could have a nice house in the city with servants. She carefully tracks her salary, but she doesn't really believe in it either.)

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It's not even suspicious to assign her a personal servant and bodyguard. He picks a young woman, a lowborn mage who he's pretty sure wants to marry into nobility and will consider it a significant favor from him to get to follow Carissa to court events. Merda can pick which events - ideally ones Ketar can attend as well without it being suspicious - and be in range to read minds and warn Carissa if he thinks she needs to leave. 

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Ketar continues to be somewhat awkwardly solicitous around Carissa whenever they interact!

 

(He is perhaps, maybe, occasionally having the hopeful thought that it's not like Altarrin is in the market for marriage and it's rare for him to keep the same woman around for even a whole year, and obviously he can't step on Altarrin's toes now but maybe Carissa will be available later? Though maybe she hates him. Or worse, thinks he's a naive child. He's going to try really hard to act less naive around her.) 

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In public, Altarrin does not especially show any sign of getting bored of Carissa! He's casually affectionate, and talks about his work with her and praises her advice and insight. He gets her presents - mostly books and protective mage-artifacts, but he makes sure she has enough nice gowns to wear to events. 

 

 

In private, he's - less tired, once the Ring of Sustenance kicks in, but he's hard to read. In private he still doesn't touch her. 

(Sometimes they talk about magic, and those are the only times he seems excited or happy or fully present. When he talks about politics and isn't trying to wear a face, he's always resigned and sad. He asks her to cast Owl's Wisdom on him sometimes, and then he's sadder, and doesn't usually explain why.) 

 

 

(When he can carve out time, he's been sketching out possibilities for immortality. He doesn't mention this to Carissa, yet, it's not going to be reassuring until he has something more than preliminary not-yet-workable ideas.) 

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Carissa is fine. It's actually kind of impossible for her not to be fine if she gets to do nice things like crafting for sixteen hours a day until her fingers are shaking too much to continue and she's itching in the places where the devil used to hurt her. ...that's what being fine is, right?

 

Merda gives her summaries of who she's talking to and why she's talking to them, what they believe and what it'd be useful for them to believe, and that part is easy. She's a very good liar. She once convinced someone that Evil wasn't evil for four entire months. 

It puts her on edge, being dependent on Altarrin when he seems to regard her mostly with weariness if he doesn't have to pretend at anything else. But she doesn't worry too much about it. She's obviously valuable. It's obviously to his disadvantage to let anything happen to her, and he's clearly good at what he does.


At one party Merda points out another former girl of Altarrin's, maybe Carissa's age, a mage who's been here since childhood as part of one of the hostage-taking schemes. She and Altarrin had a dalliance, maybe a pretend one, a few years ago.

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Altarrin continues to try to track what kinds of thing are stressful for Carissa, and what sort of security would help her be more fully focused on their mission.

He mostly doesn't bring it up with her explicitly, because communicating things to Carissa, in a way that doesn't pattern-match to a wide range of dynamics she knows from Cheliax, is hard and tiring and mostly doesn't work very well even with his Glibness pin and his Splendor headband. 

 

 

He does not to be too obviously miserable in front of her. It doesn't seem like good incentives.

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- the situation in the south is not improving. 

 

 

"I will be away for a few days," Altarrin tells Carissa over breakfast, one morning. "Hopefully not longer than that - I am going to miss you, I wish you could come with me..." 

 

(This is true, even – despite all of the confusing and tense social dynamics, Carissa is someone he can speak more openly with than anyone else, and she's clever and has good questions and insights – but he still has to ignore his discomfort when he kisses her goodbye. Thought the headband for Splendor helps.) 

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There's a scheduled court function that evening, if Carissa feels like attending it. 

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Does Merda think it's a good idea?


(She does. She usually does. She thinks that the more people see Carissa the less mysterious and thus less interesting she'll seem, and pretty soon they'll forget to gossip about her at all. There's no point in gossiping about things that everyone knows and that aren't very interesting.)

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Then off she will go, pretty and well-dressed and happy. If she were sad, it'd be something to gossip about. 

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It's a party Ketar can reasonably be invited to! He'll be there on time, nicely dressed, and definitely very ready to notice any potential assassins or kidnappers after Carissa, though it's not like this is very likely. 

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Carissa will smile at him! She's happy to have people around whose job is to keep her from getting killed, though she's felt safer as time has gone on and Merda has assured her that all of the conspiracy theories around her are of the flavor "maybe she is irrelevant to the cool shiny new stuff Altarrin's producing" instead of "maybe they are even cooler and more impressive than they appear".

 

She recognizes like half of the people here by now. That's substantial progress from recognizing nobody but it's still nervewracking.

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Dianta hangs back, watching as people arrive.

- She doesn't desperately need anything from anyone here - it's great, it's so much better than before - but if Altarrin's new girl wants to talk to her, here she is. Smiling in a welcoming sort of way, even, because she's curious what Altarrin is up to lately. 

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Carissa was told her name last party, remembered it, and then didn't talk to her for - no good reason, in hindsight. She needs to understand Altarrin better for her own safety, the deeply unhappy man he is in private. 

"Dianta, right?"

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Nod. Smile.

"Your name is Carissa?" A pause. "Altarrin's latest girl." 

(Her tone is...hard to read, maybe deliberately so. It's not unfriendly or hostile, though.) 

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Even for fake Carissa, the identification has stopped stinging, by now. "Mmhmmm. You know him?"

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"Well – I did, once. He's...a hard man to know, right? You must have noticed that by now."  

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" - yeah. I - frequently wish I could read him better. It's not - I'll be fine, right, but it'd be nice to have any idea what he's - looking for -

- if he's getting bored -"

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"I still don't know what he was looking for, with me. I don't think he got it, but I - think he wasn't expecting to." Shrug. "I doubt he's bored of you just yet. He's - patient, and you seem clever - he likes that, it'll keep him happy for a while." 

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"How long is 'a while'?"

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"Six months? You've got time. ...You should think about what you want after, though. He'll - try to set you up somewhere that's all right for you, if you tell him what you want." 

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Six months.

 

She'd in fact been hoping it'd be longer, though of course hoping for things is stupid and pathetic and a reasonable person only has bets they'd make and bets they wouldn't, trades they'd take and trades they wouldn't.

Might be longer because she's very very valuable. Might be shorter since she's not actually sleeping with him and he's already visibly tired of her. 

"I wanna be safe and get to spend most of my time on magic research."

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Dianta nods, her expression serious. She leans closer. "Working on magic research shouldn't be hard, Altarrin's brilliant and he knows all the best mage-researchers in the whole Empire - and everyone who'll pay for a researcher."

She pauses. Frowns. "Hmm. Would you rather he set you up with someone important - doesn't need to involve marrying them or sleeping with them, he'll arrange that if you ask but it's not what I wanted, he got me a position as a house-mage for a merchant family in the city - or do you want a place nice and far outside the capital? I know he figured that out for one of his women - I think that one was a marriage arrangement, but I'm sure he could get you something else, if you just wanted to be far away..." 

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Somewhere quiet in a port city where she can run a magic item shop and be comfortable and she isn't small enough to want that anymore -

"What if I want him to give me to the Emperor."

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Dianta blinks. Looks surprised, maybe, but quickly smooths it away. 

(She's discreetly checking who might be nearby enough to overhear - no one, it looks like, even the mage-guard who Altarrin assigned to his new girl is currently in a conversation with several young nobleborn mages. Which doesn't mean they're not being watched, but it's not like Altarrin would mind this conversation if he hears of it.) 

"Is that what you want? You should tell him, then, so he can figure out what your options are. He likes to have some lead time - he always said he works best like that, if he can plan things out in advance." 

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Well he's not giving me lead time by warning me he's getting bored, she doesn't respond because she's not a whiny child. "I don't know! I don't know anything about him, our meeting was brief and scripted. But - I don't think I want to be sent off to a farmhouse in the country. So I guess I'd better find something better than that."

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Dianta pats her shoulder. "Well, he's not going to send you off to a farmhouse in the country if that's not what you want! Seems like it'd be a a poor use of you anyway - you're smart and you have that Wild Gift too, right - and he doesn't like wasting people's talents, he– I think he was a little bit disappointed, when Lethia just wanted to be as far away from the capital as possible, he...thought she could've been more than that, you know?"

She leans closer. "And you seem sharper than her, honestly, so - he'll probably try to talk you into something where you can put your talent toward helping the Empire." Fond eyeroll. "He's like that, right, he wants to put people where they'll be useful. ...Don't let him push you too hard, he doesn't mean to hurt people that way, he's just– I think maybe he doesn't get that not everyone has that much energy, you know?" 

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"Well, I don't have energy problems. Tell me about the Emperor!"

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Conspiratorial smile. "He's young – I mean, relatively speaking, I'm sure he's much older than either of us but he's younger than Altarrin. He'll probably rule for another century at least, he's a mage, he can make himself age more slowly - he'll probably even stay handsome for most of it." Shrug. "He's not as clever as Altarrin, but I'm not sure who is. He's - good to his friends and ruthless to his enemies? I don't know what other sorts of things you'd want to know." 

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"Oh, come on." Carissa's tone is conspiratorial and friendly, now; whoever sent this girl, this is not a particularly dangerous kind of ambitious to be, except insofar as it gets back to the Emperor and he's a person like Abrogail in which case Carissa can handle that and will in fact prefer it to Altarrin being tired of her. "Does he have any girls? How long do they tend to live? What're they like?"

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Blink blink. 

(What do you mean, 'how long do they tend to live?' is what Dianta is thinking, but she has enough poise not to say that out loud.) 

"He's...had girls before, I think, but he's not casual about it? I don't know, I - actually haven't heard much. I'm pretty sure none of them ended up...badly off, afterward." Shrug. "He's supposed to marry and have an heir, I guess he takes that seriously." 

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"But he's older than us, without an heir yet? Does he have to marry within the nobility? Why's he supposed to have an heir, is the succession - direct to his children -"

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"I mean, not technically - the Emperor appoints the heir of their choice, doesn't have to be someone related by blood at all - but it's sort of traditional, for the Emperor to marry and have children and consider them first - he could still appoint someone else if none of his kids are any good -" 

She lowers her voice. "...This is just hearsay, don't go telling everyone, but - I've heard he likes boys. More than girls." 

(It's substantially more well-known than that, actually, she wouldn't be saying it out loud in a scryable room otherwise.) 

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Well, that's technically not prohibitive. In a sense it might be an advantage, in that Carissa has Alter Self and she thinks no one else has Alter Self. Though she only has nine minutes of it. ...there's a hat of Alter Self. Some adventurers have it, she's seen it. She does not actually know how to make it, but how hard can it be?

 

 

"Hmmm," she says aloud, and then realizes the woman's going to think she's insane. "I miss home. Things were less complicated there." They really, really weren't. "I wish Altarrin liked me. - I know that's stupid. He was entirely up front about it and I'd have known anyway." She's glad he doesn't. She thinks. She's not sure if she's glad he doesn't.

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"Oh, he likes you! I mean. As much as he likes anyone."

Wiggly-hand gesture. "He's - just not the type to get attached. But he doesn't - do this - with people he doesn't like. And he'll make sure you're all right afterward. Really." Pat on the arm. "Though - you'd do all right anyway, I think, even without his help. You're pretty and clever and you have a Gift no one else has, I don't know what else you could possibly need." 

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"What you need depends on what you want. But - sure. Thanks."

 

She'll ask someone else to tell her about the emperor's boys.

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Dianta smiles at her and meanders off. 

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Ketar is not really succeeding at being present in the conversation he's currently in, because he's been reading Dianta's mind the whole time that Carissa was talking to her (it's his job! what if Dianta had been reporting to someone who wanted to kidnap Carissa???) and now he has so many concerns. 

 

 

- Altarrin is away. If things with him and Carissa are...bad...then now is one of the best times to talk to her about it. Probably. 

He lingers and makes halfhearted listening noises in his current conversation and watches Carissa to gauge when she's planning to head out. 

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She stays a while longer, has some drinks, tells some meaningless well-vetted stories about Aksell.  Doesn't press on the Emperor thing. You have to be subtle, with that sort of thing. One mention could be a joke.

 

Once it won't be notable she's leaving early she'll duck out. She wants to try that hat.

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- he's practiced at ducking out from events (it comes up a lot, actually, if he's supposed to be following someone to read their mind or read whoever they're meeting with next.) He exits the conversation with reasonable grace, or at least not-uncharacteristic levels of awkwardness, and follows her. 

 

When she's most of the way back to Altarrin's suite, :- Are you all right? ...It's Ketar. I. Heard you talking to Dianta: 

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Allies. She needs allies. :Oh, hey: she replies, reaching out to squeeze his hand. Contact maybe helps with weak Mindspeakers but that's not why she's doing it. :You're sweet. I don't know why you care about me, I got myself into this mess.:

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...That was not what Ketar was expecting but he's really not complaining. He squeezes her hand back. 

:I don't see how any of this is your fault! I just - what's wrong? With you and Altarrin. I...thought he was all right: 

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He is! He just, you know, isn't going to fall in love, and I'm not from here, I'm not learning the language that fast, I can't - defend myself against compulsions - I need allies other than him. 

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He leans in a little closer to her. :I - think he'd want you to have that. ...Although, um, I - don't actually think you're in the same place as his - other women. You're - keeping his secrets, right, I don't actually need to know, it's fine, just - you're planning something important and I don't think he's going to just drop you: 

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Yes, but he doesn't actually want her around. 

Hand-squeeze. :I think it changes what his options are.:  But - not necessarily in her favor, obviously, he'll be less happy to just set her up comfortably with a rival. The reasonable move is in fact probably to put it about that she wants to go live in a farmhouse in the country, unless she makes that inconvenient. 

:...but you're right. He'd want me to be happy. I just ...don't know where I'll be happy.: She cannot ask the sweet boy with a crush on her for a rundown on the Emperor's boys.

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He wants to help and it's not at all clear how he can possibly do that and this is terrible. 

:You're getting paid, right, making things for the Emperor? You've...got resources, that are yours, you don't have to - just go wherever Altarrin wants to send you -?:

He frowns. :I guess you still have to worry about keeping to the whole cover story, but I don't actually think anyone is suspicious, and it's been weeks, if you were going to slip up you'd have done it before now. You're...good at this: 

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Like the money will mean anything at all if Altarrin decides she's a liability. Which he probably won't. But he could. 

:I'm getting paid. But I don't - I'm not - 

- if you don't have someone protecting you it's not actually good to be valuable, right.:

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...He seems to need to consider this for a while. 

 

:I guess it depends? On - whether you're a kind of valuable that's most useful under a lot of compulsions, or whether you need to be - cooperating: Shrug. :I don't think I have anyone specific protecting me, just, being a Thoughtsenser is...safer, here, there aren't very many of us and we're - hard to use against our will. I don't know how much you're in the same position - your cover story is that you're something less replaceable than a Thoughtsenser and the truth is - even more that - but I guess the Emperor could just compulsion you to make headbands all the time? ...I don't think anyone is going to want you dead, if that's what you're scared of, that would be really really stupid and - I guess a lot of things about the Empire are bad but I don't think we're stupid: 

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:No, I get that. And I'm glad. And being compulsioned to make headbands all the time wouldn't be that bad. But - I dunno. I guess maybe I just don't have a picture in my head of what it'd mean to actually be safe. And Altarrin's very nice to me but - it's hard to depend on one person. Who doesn't get attached.:

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He shifts his weight. :...Honestly he does seem kind of attached? I guess I - don't know him very well: Though he has possibly been paying kind of a lot of attention to this. :I don't know. I guess it makes sense to - worry that it won't last: 

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:What do you mean when you say he seems attached?: It's presumably just that he touches her in public?

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:It seems like he's putting a lot of thought into making sure you're safe and - have what you need to work? And - I don't know, he talks to you like you're - as smart as him, like your thoughts on things weigh as much as his. ...I don't really know what I mean by that, actually, just - I don't think he does that with everyone. With almost anyone, really. I guess it might just be that you're from another world, and - know things from that person from dath ilan: Keltham, it's Keltham, but he is absolutely not going to say the name out loud because he's stupidly jealous or something. 

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He already knows enough it'd be a mess for Altarrin if anyone reads his mind so there's part of Carissa that wants to tell him smaller, stupider secrets than that, like how pointedly he avoids getting near her once the spies are gone. 

She doesn't, because she's not actually an idiot. :I think he'd like dath ilan.: She doesn't think she means it as a compliment but honestly these days it's hard to know. 

 

:Well. It is what it is. You're supposed to report that I was joking around about ending up with the Emperor?:

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This is incredibly complicated and confusing! 

 

:I'm not– my compulsions aren't going to make me, if it's not - affecting your loyalty to the Empire. I'm definitely supposed to tell Merda if I'm - worried about you - I don't report to Altarrin directly, he's really busy: And maybe thinks Ketar is a naive child, which honestly seems reasonable coming from him, it sometimes feels like literally everyone including the Emperor is a naive child compared to Altarrin. 

He shifts his weight again. :I am worried about you, just - I don't know if it'd help for me to tell Merda about that conversation. If it wouldn't help you serve the Empire and the Emperor then I shouldn't tell her all of it. I probably do need to tell her...something: 

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I want someone to just light me on fire. I don't think I actually know any other ways to feel secure.

 

 

I feel like you're all failing to understand the magnitude of what I did, presumably because I very carefully downplayed it and didn't tell you the biggest parts of it. 

 

 

I want Altarrin, specifically, to hurt me, so I can stop worrying whether he likes me.

 

 

I'm going to turn into a boy and try to seduce the Emperor. 

 

 

I keep feeling like I already made the decisive mistake of this lifetime/universe but I don't know what it is. It might be something stupid and Good like helping with the conquests and stuff except I'm fine with the conquests.

 

 

:How about you just tell her that the conversation about finding a post-Altarrin plan got me down and she should scout around for a good place to land.:

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Nod.

 

Ketar hesitates. 

 

:I... Do you want a hug? Or something?: 

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She wasn't planning to fuck him because that seems like a dangerous level of complication to add to this situation but as she gives him a hug it additionally occurs to her that he might in fact not even have been hoping for that. 

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He had not even been slightly considering that sleeping with Altarrin's current girlfriend might be on the table! He's kind of mentally preparing himself for it never being on the table, since Carissa maybe wants to seduce the Emperor, and whether or not she ends up doing that or succeeds, it feels like she's very definitely out of his league. 

 

He hugs her, and leaves, and tries to mentally formulate what to tell Merda, who may or may not end up hearing about the contents of Carissa's conversation with Dianta from other sources, if someone happened to be scrying the room at the time. He...should arguably report to Merda right now, but it really doesn't seem like anything awful is going to happen if he puts it off until their next scheduled meeting - if anything, it might be worse for the service of the Empire and the Emperor - and so he's just going to. Wait. 

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Altarrin is back that night, very late, and heads straight to his suite. Is Carissa awake? He really hopes Carissa is awake. He's exhausted enough to be swaying slightly on his feet, mostly from doing a truly unreasonable quantity of magic today. But he doesn't actually really feel like sleeping, yet. He is so incredibly frustrated and he wants to complain to someone who will get it

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Carissa is awake! (She does not spend much time sleeping.) She is working on a hat. She does not startle or hide the hat when Altarrin arrives, because she is not an idiot. 

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He raises his eyebrows at the hat, but doesn't ask, just sags down onto the bed. (He's limping slightly, and maybe being careful with one arm, which got a lot more noticeable as soon as the door was shut behind him, like he was trying hard to conceal it outside and isn't bothering now that he's finally somewhere safe.) 

He looks...incredibly glad and relieved to see her, actually? The tension-lines etched into his face relax. 

"Carissa, I hate gods," he says. "And religions. Especially inexplicably stupid and wasteful ones." He rolls his shoulder. Winces. "And poorly built infrastructure! Is also bad!" 

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" - do you need healing?" The local healing is far more specific and flexible than hers but hers is faster. 

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Tired smile. "I am not badly injured, just sore, but I would not complain." He yawns. "Bridge collapsed. Again. I feel that the gods could at least try harder to be creative." 

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Infernal Healing. She touches him as little as possible; no point making him mad. "Why do they even bother, if they can see it won't work?"

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He doesn't seem bothered at all that she has to touch him; he smiles at her. "Thank you. And because They will try anything that has a one-in-a-hundred chance of temporarily killing me and do not actually care about the collateral damage? Also this time was maybe just to distract me, it delayed tracking down the assassin and they had time to take a fast-acting poison before I got there and now I still have no idea who the ringleaders are and it is probably going to keep happening and–"

- he stops himself. Takes a deep breath; looks sort of ruefully at his hand, which is trembling slightly. "...Sorry. Delayed shock-reaction, I think, but - I am fine. I should probably start at the beginning – unless you are busy, or were planning to sleep soon? I would very much like to complain to you about this horrible religion but you are not obliged to listen to me grumble about the unfairness of the world." 

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"I don't mind." She doesn't smile. Her tentative guess is that he is more threatened by friendliness than calm neutrality.

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(Altarrin would not in fact complain about some friendliness right now! Calm neutrality is fine too, though.) 

"So - Taymyrr, right, half of it is recently conquered and still giving us trouble - there is a bizarrely well-supplied and well-organized resistance and they keep trying to assassinate the local leadership who are cooperating with us, which is obviously not making people any more comfortable about cooperating - and then the other half is being much more problematic than it has any right to. When this happens it is very often organized by some religious order that has successfully gone underground, and General Isktar is reluctant to push too hard on executing everyone with any kind of past temple affiliation, which is - not unreasonable in isolation, executing well-regarded community leaders is an excellent way to end up with a conquered people that hates you and that will not help either, but."

Shrug. "I thought maybe Anathei at first, He was the most popular god in Stormhaven, with the largest and wealthiest temple, which we destroyed but some of the priesthood could have survived and stayed in the city in hiding, and Anathei is also popular in Oris and Zoskin, so their temple orders could be funneling money and resources here. After some investigation, though, I think it is not that. ...There is a traveling merchant class who worship the Sky-Father and Earth-Mother, and they were - rather ill-treated by the previous administration, and so have some practice in staying hidden and are used to being oppressed for their faith, but I think they are not involved, which is a relief, I also dislike - starting off by selectively mistreating specific ethnic groups, it is so antithetical to what the Empire is supposed to be..." 

 

He grimaces. "And then, of course, I found evidence that the Empire of Holy Ithik is involved after all, despite the fact that their god Atet was - as far as I can tell, one of the least popular ones to worship in Taymyrr previously, reasonably so because their state religion is horrible and I am not sure why anyone not mandated by their government to practice it would choose it over all the much nicer ones! And there was one minor monastery dedicated to Him was burned to the ground with everyone inside by their own priest, so I am not really sure where all these worshippers of Atet are coming from." 

He scowls, though not at Carissa. "You would hate their religion so much! They are just - inexplicably terrible in all the ways that would frustrate you in particular. They claim there is an afterlife, which I am quite sure is not even true, and they are so - socially repressive, and hierarchical - nobles are supposed to get a much nicer afterlife than anyone else, and Atet will supposedly punish you in the afterlife for 'shaming' him by having ambitions above your station. Also they hate women! They think Gifts are well-regarded in the eyes of Atet - being Gifted will also get you a nicer afterlife supposedly - but not for women, women who have Gifts are shameful to Atet and not allowed to use them and the only allowable thing for a Gifted woman to do is bear Gifted children! It is so stupidly wasteful. And they think women with Foresight specifically are bad luck and used to burn them to death to make up the shame to Atet - Ithik's current high priest is slightly less horrible than that, so these days they are just blinded and forced into a life of solitary confinement and prayer - and they do not get a nice afterlife allotment either. I have no idea why this religion exists or how it possibly became popular enough to be enforced in an entire small Empire. I suppose I am not sure it is actually worse than Asmodeanism but I am very sure you will personally hate it much more." 

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"You're right! I do! Asmodeanism teaches that you're worthless because you suck, not because of who your parents are - when I say it like that it sounds silly but I think it was - important to me, that I was worthless because of qualities I actually had and could change - and what made me give up, in the end, was that He wasn't actually - He wasn't using everyone as best He could -

I don't even see - how most of those things serve Atet - can gods even notice gender -"

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"I suspect not very directly! I - suppose a society like the Holy Empire of Ithik might be slower to change? Because there are fewer opportunities for advancement for anyone not born to the right parents, and because they are completely wasting the skills of half of their population - it is not just women with Gifts who are discouraged from doing anything, I think most of their girls are not even sent to school. And treating the sexes differently seems to be - sticky, in societies that do it, the pattern maintains itself unless conditions change. So under our theory that gods dislike Foresight noise, maybe Atet approves of it for that reason? And -"

 

He pauses. Looks thoughtful. 

"...I think that makes sense to me, actually. Why you prefer that element of Asmodeanism. It is not how I think about the world, obviously, but it is much closer to it than the religion of Ithik. Most people are - not living up to their potential, and that does bother me - I just disagree with Asmodeus on what sort of world actually pushes people to become the strongest versions of themselves." 

And the Empire isn't that world, and isn't on a path to building it. He's known that for a while, on some level, it just took an Owl's Wisdom to the face to - propagate it and follow the implications. 

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"I don't think Asmodeus actually wanted us to be the strongest versions of ourselves. Literate and educated and wizard-trained and rich, yes, but - probably mostly because Cheliax was losing ground against the rest of the world and He needed that to change - but there could be a god very like Asmodeus who I'd still be faithful to, who preferred the strong to the weak so tried to make people stronger." Shrug. "How do you stamp out churches, if you don't want to just kill their followers?"

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"Killing their leaders, much more often than I would prefer, though whenever possible we instead bribe - or compulsion - them to stop proselytizing, and work for us instead. And we replace all of the functions that used to be provided by the temples with secular versions, and ideally much better versions. In newly-conquered regions we provide free childcare for very young children, free schooling up to age twelve, and the school serves two meals a day - we offer Healing at low prices, and free Healing for life-threatening emergencies - we set up banks so that families can save money, we sell books at subsidized prices, we build community facilities with magical heating and lighting..."

Shrug. "Most worshippers are not - true believers - they go to a temple for mundane reasons, because the temple orders provide important services. And because it is their tradition, but - most people do not end up holding to that tradition once it is illegal and can only be practiced in secret and with great danger. And we offer the most clever and hardworking children, the ones who might otherwise become temple leaders, places at schools in the capital, and then lucrative jobs, and usually after a generation there is - no longer enough momentum even for underground religious practice. We - put up with more problems than I would like, when we approach things gently, and we cannot always afford that - I think we may not be able to afford it in Taymyrr - but it makes for stabler provinces in the long run, when we use a carrot rather than a stick." 

Shrug. "In theory. It is often less - nice - than that in reality." 

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"Cheliax did most of that. Daycare's also good for parents not getting too attached to their kids, and getting the kids to report them. I don't know - obviously Asmodeanism is illegal in many Good places but I don't know how they get rid of it. I think in Galt they just killed pretty much everyone educated or with ties to the government or with the wrong friends or -" Shrug. 

"- you hate it. Don't you? I - think I just wouldn't do it, if it bothered me that much."

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"...Honestly, I cannot see Asmodeanism being very appealing to people who have other options. It - seems like a religion that is convincing mostly because it is the dominant power in Cheliax, so it is - more credible that Asmodeus will win - and because Cheliax bans other sources of information?" Shrug. "It might help that there is a more clearly defining line around the 'true believers' - if it were my choice I would likely execute the clerics of Asmodeus, who are granted power and benefits from Him in exchange for their faith." 

 

He looks down. "...Though, yes, I would hate it. I suppose I hate it here as well. I just– I have yet to come up with a plan that I hate less. Building a god with fifty million lives is...not something that would feel much like a victory either." 

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Carissa thinks that probably it would, not immediately but once you got to live in comfort and luxury on your fixed planet forever. She decides not to share this opinion, which seems maybe more Asmodean than she's aiming for these days. 

It feels - good, mostly, to get confirmation she was reading him right and he hates it here, that he's doing this because he can't think of anything he doesn't hate doing. She already suspected it; better to know. And he probably doesn't hate her specifically, just as part of a life he is living out of stubborn Goodness when he doesn't want to.

...she suspects he's not doing the dath ilani thing here, and it might help if she could tell him what it is, but she doesn't know. "have more fun" will just come across as flirting, which is...not not what she would do if she knew how, but -

 

"It seems like there's something strange about being - this powerful and this trapped."

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It's bizarrely frustrating right now not to be able to read Carissa's mind! Which he couldn't even if he had Thoughtsensing in this body, because he gave her a shield-talisman, because having it makes her stronger, and he obviously wants his allies to be stronger and it - still doesn't, entirely, feel like Carissa believes that. Maybe someday, if he demonstrates it consistently and often enough by his actions. 

"Maybe." Shrug. "I am still only human, in a world with gods who will not speak to me and who disapprove of most of what I think is important. Maybe not unreasonably. Maybe there...could have been a real victory, in Predain - in Tantara, with Urtho - before the Cataclysm. But I - made mistakes, and this entire world is still paying the price for them, and I can hardly blame the gods for being paranoid about me now. I cannot even remember what my mistakes were, I might still be making them over and over–" 

A rueful, unhappy smile. "- Sorry. I - usually only dwell on it when you cast Owl's Wisdom for me." 

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"I'm pretty sure I made worse mistakes than that and I mostly don't dwell on it at all."

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Well. Altarrin has no idea how to respond to that. 

(It kind of shows. He doesn't look upset, exactly, but his body language shifts, tighter and closed and so so tired.)

 

"We can leave, someday, when we have the resources accumulated for it and it makes more sense to work on our plans somewhere else. I am reasonably sure the Empire is not going to collapse in my absence, just become more like Cheliax."

He frowns. "Actually, I meant to ask, where are you on figuring out Teleport? I - arranged for a shipment from the mine to be 'captured by bandits', since the weekly production is now much more than you need. I stashed it in a cave four hundred miles from here - I can Gate there for you, if you need to have seen a location to Teleport to it, or I can draw a map for you to memorize if that is enough - there is about fifty pounds. I would feel more comfortable if you had that backup option." Another unhappy not-smile. "In case I am not careful enough, next time the gods make an attempt on my life." 

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Carissa has literally no idea how to interpret the combination of "upset and withdrawn again" and "extremely generous offer". "I would ideally have seen it. I successfully prepared Teleport, yesterday; I didn't use it, because I wasn't sure if I had leave while you were out and I only had one, but I can cast the spell now."

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"Oh. ...You should ask Ellitrea about that sort of thing, or Merda - you do not need my permission to cast spells but I suspect you are still lacking some context here, and - it would be safer to check if anything you are planning is risky. Though I think you know that, you are - careful."

His tone is - fond, maybe, or admiring, though it's hard to tell because mostly he looks so tired. 

"I can show you where. Tomorrow." He glances over at the hat. "...What are you working on? I was not aware magic hats were a technique you knew - is it a variant on the headbands -?" 

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A jolt of terror, which she hides in favor of a chiding smile. "Can't a girl have some secrets?"

It's reasonably likely that the answer is 'absolutely not' but in that case this is a decent context in which to learn that.

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Altarrin's expression is that of someone who is absolutely no idea how to respond to that and is not really in the mood to put cognitive effort toward figuring it out. (He doesn't look upset.) 

"- If there are - operational security concerns - that makes sense? Though no one is going to read my mind about it. ...You do not need to tell me, to be clear, I want you to - feel comfortable making your own decisions and setting your own priorities, that is important - just, I think I would feel more comfortable if you were talking to someone here with more context. Merda, maybe?" 

And he's maybe going to lie down, now. (Paying somewhat less attention to making sure Carissa has lots of space on her side of the bed and won't need to worry about touching him, because he's too tired to track that either.) 

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- that could almost definitely have gone worse?

 

 

She is, in fact, planning to bring Merda in on her plans, because she doesn't know how to get close to the Emperor otherwise. But not quite yet.

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(At one point in the night Altarrin moves and startles her awake but she just holds very still until she's confident it was accidental and then scoots away and falls back asleep. It's no big deal. She is on the farthest possible edge of the bed in the morning but hopefully he won't think much of it.)

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(He sleeps more restlessly than usual. His nightmares aren't very loud or disruptive, but he hasn't yet had a chance to write up notes on what happened and sort his various emotional reactions into neat boxes so they stop disturbing his sleep.) 

 

It's still early, once they've both had their requisite two candlemarks of sleep, and if Carissa wants he can raise a Gate to the cave where he stashed her spellsilver, and let her have a look? He'll siphon off more later if he feels like he can get away with it, but fifty pounds should be quite a lot to work with, if she ends up needing to work on her own while she waits for him to incarnate again and find her - he assures her that he'll look for her there, he's left notes for himself in all of his other records-caches. 

(Unspoken: if she decides not to stay there and wait for him, she could make herself quite hard to find. It feels - important - to give her that option.)

(He also doesn't mention that he left a copy of his current notes on immortality options for her. Arguably he should, it just - feels like it might be a complicated and fraught conversation, and he doesn't have the energy for it right now. But if anything happens, his notes will be there for her to find.) 

 

And then he does have to hurry off, after their breakfast together, because he's been away for days and is yet again behind on all of his routine work. 

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Carissa isn't sure if this place is a miserable place or if it's just Altarrin. 

 

Just because Asmodeus sucks doesn't mean her past assessment of Good was incorrect; it could be exactly as stupid as it seems.

 

 

She works on her hat.

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Ketar has a scheduled meeting with Merda that evening. (It's set up discreetly; she has a regular dictation assignment for the assistant to the Minister of the Treasury - which is very easy, the man talks slowly and often spends half of it getting distracted with other work - and Ketar spends that block of time in an adjacent room "catching up on notes" from his earlier Thoughtsensing loyalty-checks.)

 

:Carissa had a conversation at the court party last night. With - Dianta, I think is her name? She used to be one of Altarrin's women. She was trying to give Carissa advice, about - getting Altarrin to find her a place for herself longer term, though obviously she doesn't know the whole story here - but I think it sort of shook Carissa. She...could probably use advice: 

Hopefully this is not incredibly suspicious???? Not that he's sure what he's worried about, here, it's not like Carissa is meaningfully being disloyal to Altarrin or like any of them are being disloyal to the Empire and the Emperor. 

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:Huh. I guess I can talk to her. Did she say anything revealing? Did you notice anyone else noticing?:

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:No one in the room noticed that I could tell - and I could read most of them - but someone could've been scrying, they weren't behind shields - I don't have anyone specific in mind, mostly just - if someone's asking questions about her, who we don't know about...: 

Shrug. 

:She's - nervous. I think partly that Altarrin...isn't attached, or doesn't like her as a person, or something, and so she doesn't feel like he'll necessarily keep protecting her? I - think she's probably misreading him somehow but I don't know. And -: he hesitates, :she said, 'if you don't have someone protecting you it's not actually good to be valuable' - though I said that probably the worst outcome is someone gets compulsions on her and forces her to make them magic items, and she thought that was fine....: 

 

Heeee should proooooobably say something about Carissa wanting to seduce the Emperor in order to be safer - which might even be a good idea, if it takes some of the pressure off Altarrin, leaves him with more to focus on their actual plan here whatever it is - but he...is maybe going to wait and see how Merda reacts to this first. 

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Merda raises a metaphorical mental eyebrow. :Have you noticed Altarrin being irritated with her?:

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:...Not really? He seems busy and stressed - worse than usual - but I would've said he likes her. Or - respects her. Whatever the thing is he actually...does...with people he approves of, I sort of don't know if he likes anyone: Mental shrug. :You know him better than I do: 

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:I'll think about it.: She has some speculation but Ketar doesn't need to hear it.

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...He spends fifteen seconds agonizing over whether to tell her about the Emperor, but it's not like he's even sure that Carissa was serious about it. She's hard to read that way. Presumably if she is serious about it then she'll - bring it up, if and when Merda talks to her.

 

He has another five minutes of not-nearly-as-contentful summaries on other mindreading he's done. This person thinks Carissa is pretty and is paying her extra attention mostly for that reason but hasn't actually noticed anything to be suspicious about and definitely isn't going to pursue it any further while Carissa still very clearly belongs to Altarrin. This other person is pretty sure she's a fake and doesn't know what the real game is - maybe the 'Wild Gift' doesn't exist at all and Altarrin is making the magic artifacts himself for some Altarrin reason? - but isn't especially invested. This other girl has a theory that Carissa and Altarrin must be having exceptionally arduous sex, since Altarrin has been noticeably tired sometimes, and she's hoping maybe Carissa will let a few of the details slip once they've gotten to know her better. This other person thinks Carissa has terrible taste in fashion. 

And then he'll drop the connection and move on with his day, if Merda doesn't have any other questions. 

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Merda doesn't, especially. It seems like mostly no one's going to get curious until Altarrin makes a move. Or Carissa does.

 

Does Carissa want to see her? They have a similar engineered arrangement for that.

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When she's done with her HAT.

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It takes her most of a week, though that's with a little headband-making on the side. The tricky part is getting the hat to exist in a format that wouldn't be incredibly bizarre to leave on during sex. She thinks she can make it willing to shapeshift into a tightly-fitted wig. 

 

She doesn't try all that hard to hide the signs she's absorbed in a project; it'll probably look more suspicious if she seems to be concealing it. 

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Altarrin is also preoccupied, but he does notice that Carissa is very absorbed. It's - fine, probably, at some point the Emperor is going to notice if she's falling behind on headband production (and the Emperor still wants his translation rings, and Altarrin does at some point want a magic item of Detect Thoughts), but he's reluctant to push Carissa too hard on that. It feels like she...needs space to have her own plans, right now. 

 

(In public with her, he's harried but warm. He hosts more dinners with the engineering-research mages, and sometimes, when they're talking about magic, he almost seems genuinely happy.) 

 

He does at some point, near the end of the week, ask Ellitrea to ask Merda if she has any idea what Carissa is working on right now? He's not worried or anything, but it's clearly taking up a lot of her attention, and she didn't want to tell him the details for...operational security reasons, probably...but he could use Merda's sanity-check on that. 

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Merda thinks Carissa is up to something! She's aware that's not the most reassuring possible answer. It's ....probably not something stupid. 

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The week passes. 

 

- one of Altarrin's mages wakes him with an urgent communication-spell report, inconveniently during the block of time when he and Carissa are actually asleep. There's a problem down south. Again. A building - exploded? Sounded like a Final Strike, probably by a Master-potential mage from below, maybe a cellar? They're not sure if there was a cellar, they didn't actually have building plans. 

It was during a diplomatic meeting. With all of the lords on the local Council who were willing to cooperate with the invading force, and General Isktar. As far as they know everyone is dead. 

It was presumably the work of the underground resistance? They don't really have any leads on it, though, given how a Final Strike doesn't leave an identifiable body. 

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He's so tired. 

 

(He would have been the one running that meeting, if he'd decided to stay. He somewhat reluctantly delegated it to Isktar, because the diplomat on site would be even worse, and it seemed like an exceptionally bad time to be away from the capital for so long.) 

 

...He should probably warn Carissa that he has to leave. Is she awake? 

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Not yet. 

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He doesn't really want to shake her awake and he also doesn't want to wait. He'll - creep out of bed, and cast a tiny mage-light in the palm of his hand so he can write her a note explaining. If she wakes up while he's at it, he'll explain in person. 

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Wizards are sound sleepers. Or at least, at the Worldwound the ones who aren't die of it.

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Then Carissa will wake up alone in the room, with a note resting on Altarrin's side of the bed. 

 

Major assassination plot in Stormhaven. Mage called a Final Strike under a building during diplomatic meeting. Most of the local nobles willing to work with us are dead. General Isktar assumed dead. Followers of Atet probably responsible.

I need to travel down and see what can be salvaged. Ask Ellitrea or Merda for updates. 

(There's a line scratched out.)

You should prepare Teleport daily just in case.

- Altarrin. 

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It does not escape Carissa that Altarrin probably came extremely close to being in that building.

 

It feels abruptly like she can't afford to go ahead with her Emperor plan and can't afford not to. Altarrin's suggestion for her if he dies is to ...flee the Empire? Does that mean he thinks it'd be far too dangerous to stay?

Why does he even have to go, can't he just send someone else - isn't she more important -

 

- stop being stupid. Is she going to finish her hat and try this plan, or huddle here and flee the country if Altarrin gets himself killed. 

 

 

Altarrin is immortal, but she isn't, and she's not sure she can accomplish lichdom if she has to start over from scratch without an empire behind her. 

 

Hat. Plan.

 

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"Are you allowed to keep any of your own secrets?"

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Well, that's an opener. "Allowed, sure. Will I, probably not."

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"I'll take 'probably not'. I want to seduce the Emperor."

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"Dear fucking gods, girl. Your horrible planet screwed your head on backwards."

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"I know that, but this isn't actually about that. This is about my having a path to be safe here if Altarrin gets himself killed. Or gets bored. As it's well understood he always does."

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"Right, but someone without her head screwed on funny goes, Merda buy me a house in the nice part of town."

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"Merda, how much you think you could make, if Altarrin was dead, selling information about who I really am and which nice house in town you bought me to the highest bidder in the palace?"

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" - wow. You know, I'd be insulted, except I did already concede that this is your head being screwed on backwards and therefore no reflection on me."

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"It's not an insult! It's a question about product pricing."

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" - you know, just for that, I should let you try to seduce the Emperor. It won't work. He prefers men."

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"I am aware of that and accordingly intend to seduce him as a man."

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"Sorry, you -

 

 

 

what -"

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Carissa has a Hat of Greater Disguise Self. She demonstrates it. 

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" - okay, that is a very very impressive - illusion, but as it is an illusion I don't think it'd hold up to -"

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"It is a Polymorph, not an illusion, and you can suck my dick."

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" it's a what?"

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"A magic for turning into other kinds of creature! A more powerful wizard could be a dragon."

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"Anyway. Shall I present you with my apprehension of the situation, which you can then improve on so as to help my plan succeed?"

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"Sorry, what's in this for me, given that the downside is obviously being in a really impressive amount of trouble? You're...deceiving the Emperor?"

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"Of course not! I was planning to tell him at the first opportunity where we wouldn't be overheard by spies."

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"What else can your magic do."

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"That's need-to-know."

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"We're negotiating my bribe so I think I need to know."

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"I'll make you something that is already known to exist. The headband, or the pin of Glibness, or one I'm doing for Altarrin, of mindreading -"

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" - that."

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"Deal."

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"Pay up front."

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"I'm good for my word!"

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"You are reasonably likely to end up in utterly bizarre forms of trouble! And if you pay me and I don't help you you can appeal to Altarrin for the return of my prize, while if I help you and you don't pay me I cannot appeal to the Emperor to make you pay up."

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"- that's fair, but it'll take a week and I don't want to wait that long to even get started. I'm not expecting my plan to work overnight, here."

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"What is your plan? It's easier to sleep with the Emperor than to get anything you especially wanted out of it. Altarrin's not the only man who gets bored."

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"Well, I was initially depressed that he preferred men before I realized it's actually my most significant advantage. He is supposed to marry and have an heir, but he's older than me and unmarried, presumably because the job is less appealing both to him and to prospective wives than it would ordinarily be. But I can look however he likes in bed, and give him heirs, though I cannot technically do both of those things at the same time - I have another hat, of Disguise Self which isn't a Polymorph, to tide us over while I can't Polymorph -"

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" - sorry, you can't do both of those things at the same time because -"

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" - because losing your womb in a Polymorph terminates a pregnancy. This is the entire reason I know the spell and its most popular use."

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"Of course," she says faintly. 

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"Admit it, I'm a genius."

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"This seems quite likely to be a disaster somehow though I admit it does also have some chance of working out very nicely for you. Altarrin - I guess he's not very the jealous type -"

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"Very pointedly refuses to touch me. This is probably entirely my fault, the first day I told him if he fucked me it'd bother me slightly though not enough anyone would notice."

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"Have you - told him since you feel differently about it?"

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"Of course not! Could you imagine??? If he doesn't want me then there's suddenly common knowledge of that! It would be terrible! - and he doesn't want me. It might be that he doesn't want me because of things that include that conversation, but it's - not like he's been hoping and hoping I'll change my mind. And I think I - can't really deal with Good people these days anyway, if I ever could. He's so sad."

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"Is there - don't take this the wrong way - any overlap between men you want and men who are remotely a good idea to date?"

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"See, I think the Emperor is a striking example of what's admittedly a small category. Rumor has it all of his lovers are alive and in one piece and so on. But also, he has them, and is capable of enjoying them while he has them. That's all I ask."

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"And if the rumor had been that his lovers were frequently, what, dropped into a pit of crocodiles..."

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"I would at minimum have arranged to fight some crocodiles before I even considered this plan."

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...joke?  Merda is pretty sure that was a joke.

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It's been a while since Carissa has had the opportunity to make a point to someone who is gaping at her disbelievingly. It's starting to feel like she was missing something important.

 

"I do know a crocodile summoning spell but it doesn't work quite right here because you're differently positioned with respect to the planes the crocodile-constructs get their defining shapes and spirits from."

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"Is Cheliax just ...like this?"

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"...this I think I got from Keltham, actually. In a way. Any dath ilani who'd just made a joke about fighting crocodiles and had a crocodile summoning spell would absolutely summon some crocodiles to punch in the nose on the spot. There's a - might as well enjoy yourself - Altarrin reminds me of Keltham a bit but he's entirely missing that spirit. ...Keltham is too, now, of course."

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"All right, so, to be clear, you want to be assigned to be a - page to the Emperor or something? And your plan is to go in and make pretty faces at him and hope that he decides to fuck you in private so you can tell him -"

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"I intend to tell him as soon as we are in private but I don't actually object if that is several assignations into our relationship, so long as he can't reasonably complain I should've told him sooner since I couldn't have without betraying some state secrets."

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"Are you going to be crushed if he hears out your - proposition - and says 'no thanks'?"

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"Have you met me? I'll just seduce his boss."

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Thaaaat one was a joke. She's pretty sure.

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"Look, I need to - do things. That won't get me killed if I fail but that meaningfully go differently depending how good I am at - making plans, getting what I want - I hate being around Altarrin, I hate having nothing but Good and tiredness and sadness to - engage with, respond to - I want to be wanted, and I want to surprise people, and I want to be in at least a little danger of at least a little torture."

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"I guess I can get some random handsome non-Gifted boy who already has the right compulsions in place a job that'll eventually take him in front of the Emperor's face."

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"Not eventually. The sooner, the lower the odds I do something actually not allowed in the course of being too clever for my own good."

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"Get me the mindreading artifact and I'll see what I can do."

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It's pretty clear, at this point, that General Isktar wasn't ruthless enough for the job of pacifying Taymyrr. 

 

(...Though Altarrin isn't sure how much this was predictable in advance, versus the direct result of Carissa landing in his world and giving him new options and - probably, he assumes - throwing new noise and confusion into the gods' Foresight. It's not like it would be useful to blame Isktar for it anyway, it's so rarely useful to assign fault after the fact, but maybe this had nothing to do with him, and he was, like so many people before him, made a pawn of vast forces beyond his understanding or control.

He's trying not to dwell on thoughts like that, though, it's not helpful.)

 

Officer Ashak, the diplomat he assigned, is adequately ruthless, but - not adequately strategic. Altarrin is going to have to do a lot of steering here. 

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Is it even worth it, given the stakes of his work with Carissa? He's...not sure. But it's not, actually, an option not to do his job. He's sworn and compulsioned to be loyal to the Empire and the Emperor, and that means doing his job, which means that if he was distracted and slipped up then it's on him to clean up the mess.

 

(And there are a lot of thoughts he can't think all the way through, with the compulsions in place. Maybe an Owl's Wisdom would help, but he doesn't have that. He has his Glibness pin and his headband for Splendor and those are - what he needs, to address this problem - just not what he needs to figure out if it's the right problem to be focusing on at all.) 

 

It's all right, Carissa has a Teleport and fifty pounds of hidden spellsilver and his notes on immortality research, and even in the worst case scenario he can probably find her again in time

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Two days after his departure, he passes a message back via the mages' communication-spell relay. They're going to escalate, in terms of how hard they're trying to root out the underground resistance. He needs a Thoughtsenser; he's requesting Ellitrea, who has the relevant experience. 

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....Ellitrea is going to warn Carissa about this, obviously. 

(Carissa is working on...something secret...and Merda has not actually briefed her on it. She might ask Merda separately before she leaves, in case it's relevant.) 

:Do you have questions?: 

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Why Altarrin bothers with this stupid thing that's pretty obviously a distraction which may in fact have been engineered to stop the more important project (Carissa's).

 

She doesn't say that. :No.:

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Ellitrea is dubious about that, but also it's - not really her problem, right now. 

 

- she'll check with Merda too, before she heads out. 

:Altarrin needs me in the south - there is a problem with their stupid religious underground resistance, I think, and he's decided they need to find and kill everyone involved so he needs a Thoughtsenser on site. - I think Carissa is upset about it. I am not sure if she is worried about his safety - I am not, he is careful, right - or just...feeling neglected. But I think it would be good if someone were - looking out for her, while we are away: 

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:- Also she is - working on that secret project? I am not sure if that is - relevant to Altarrin's work in Taymyrr - but if so I would like to know the relevant pieces: 

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:She's trying to seduce the Emperor.: says Merda flatly. :I don't think it's related.:

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:She is - what - nevermind. Do you think she still wants personal updates from Altarrin? He - does care about her, I think, to the extent he cares about anyone, he would pay some cost to get private messages to her, but - not if she would not even benefit: 

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: - I don't know. I think she's - disengaged emotionally. He should maybe not try to deal with that until he's actually back.:

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:All right:

 

...She's still going to have to find a good moment to tell Altarrin that Carissa is trying to seduce the Emperor, for some reason, isn't he only interested in boys– still not the priority right now. 

She heads out for her Gate down south. 

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Caris is very very good looking, in the mold of the Emperor's previous lovers, and younger-looking than Carissa, perhaps twenty. Merda gets him approved for a job as a messenger, grumbling all the while even though in the course of doing so she doesn't actually misrepresent anything at all. Caris needs to duck into somewhere quiet and cast Tongues every now and again, but he considers this an acceptable risk because no one scries random messengers, they'd need mage-sight to see anything, and he still pretends to use an 'artifact' in case anyone is watching and puts him together with Carissa. 

 

She feels substantially better, actually, even though the plan has yet to bring Caris into the Emperor's presence and even though he has no idea how to flirt as a man. 

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Well, Merda can solve one of those problems. (Not the flirting one.) Here's an assignment for Caris to carry some furniture into the Emperor's meeting rooms. He'd better be very strong.

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He is!!!

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The Emperor is there!

(Well, not in the exact room, he doesn't really like being around when servants are moving his things, but he's in the adjacent room and the door is open.) 

He's sprawled in a chair with a notebook propped on his knee, and is writing in it while absently humming to himself under his breath. 

 

- he might at some point glance up and look at whoever's fixing his meeting-room. 

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Caris who was definitely not trying to catch a glimpse of the Emperor will look at the ground just slightly too slowly to not get caught. And will then bow very deeply, of course. He would kneel but he's still holding this piece of furniture. No, there's no good reason he hasn't put it on the ground yet. 

 

(Carissa is mostly hoping that the requisite level of flirtation skill here will be low.)

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His gaze pauses on him, briefly, and moves on. He has work to do. 

...he's definitely still paying a lot of attention to Caris, even if he's mostly not looking in that direction except for brief glances. 

 

(It's probably someone's plot - it nearly always is, when a beautiful young man shows up near him - and this doesn't bother him, exactly, but it does make him more inclined to hang back, wait and see what he'll do next.) 

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Is Caris bold enough to address the Emperor uninvited? ....no, Caris is not. Where Caris is from, you definitely just get tortured to death, for that, and while he's aware that's not how it works here this awareness has not made its way to all of the body parts that would have to coordinate on a plan like that. He'll just place the furniture, and be caught staring, and then depart. Slowly enough one could call after him.

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The Emperor sets aside his notebook and stands, when it looks like Caris is on his way out. 

 

- He stops at the threshold of the meeting-room. Hesitates. "I don't believe we've met. What's your name?" 

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He very gracefully kneels. "Caris, your majesty, of no family. At your service."

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(Up close, the Emperor is visibly younger than Altarrin, though of course much older than Caris – he looks a well-preserved forty (though Caris knows that he's a mage, a powerful one - the Emperor usually is - and, assuming he's using magic to delay aging and extend his life, he's probably in fact older). He's very handsome, and clearly takes good care of himself. He's a small man, slim and compact, fit but not excessively muscular, and probably actually shorter than Caris though it's hard to tell for sure while kneeling. He's well dressed, in a richly embroidered velvet tunic; the deep jewel-green is very flattering. His jet-black hair is streaked with silver at the temples.) 

 

...Hmm. The young man is even more handsome up close, he's– someone clearly handpicked him to perfectly fit the Emperor's taste. He's nervous, which is unfortunate; that's the sort of thing that one is sort of supposed to find appealing, but actually it's a huge turnoff, and unfortunately you can't just tell a page from a lowborn family - maybe newly arrived in the capital, too, he has an excellent memory for faces and doesn't think he's ever seen Caris before - to relax and be more confident, when you're the Emperor. It doesn't work, though usually enough wine does the trick. 

- does the young man want him, separate from presumably wanting to please or impress whoever arranged for him to be attractively hauling furniture in front of the Emperor. It's - an inconvenient trait, to want his lovers to be not just attracted to him - (that part is fine by itself, he knows that he's still attractive - it shouldn't be a sacrifice to be endured, to sleep with him, like it would be with some wrinkled potbellied governor) - but also bold and even maybe a little impertinent. 

(He's going to pursue it anyway, probably, that's nearly always where he ends up landing, it's still flattering and it's still a few nights of pleasure, a perk of his position that he's not going to just turn down. But it's - emptier, when he can tell that someone wants to advance their position or pay back a favor more than they want him.) 

 

"New at court?" he says, casually. "- You may rise, it's not a rule that you need a good view of my nostrils while we speak." 

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He rises. "I can't say I've been here all that long, your majesty." He's already made up his mind never to outright lie to the Emperor; that would just be stupid.

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It’s a measured, careful response, one that leaves you with the feeling that there’s a lot more going on behind the young man’s (gorgeous) eyes. Huh. Maybe this one will be interesting. 

“Have we overawed you terribly? One does get used to it, but I’m sure it’s a lot to get used to.”

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What even is a truthful answer to that. "They say to never meet your heroes, but it's worked out well for me so far." Do they even say that here, or does it mark her as foreign. It's not even a Chelish saying; it's an adventurer one. Well, being mysterious is often an advantage.

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...Maybe not as intimidated as he thought? The young man has poise, which he appreciates, because while it may be straightforwardly true that the Emperor could trivially order the death of anyone as unimportant as a lowborn page, while at the same time literally everyone in the palace is compulsioned to be directly loyal to him, it still kind of ruins the mood when he can tell someone is thinking about that the entire time. 

Meeting his heroes, hmm? That could be a hint that seducing an Emperor is among his fantasies and not just - a chore for someone else - or it could be about someone or something else entirely. Though Caris genuinely doesn't seem surprised or disappointed by what life at court is really like, at least as far as Bastran can tell – the idealistic youngsters usually are. 

(If the phrase marks Caris as foreign, the Emperor isn't letting it on.) 

 

"Well, but have you met our musicians? I haven't seen you at the concerts." (And he attends nearly all of them.) 

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"I can't say anyone has extended me an invitation."

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"Well. Tomorrow night, and consider this an invitation if your schedule allows it." 

He's pretty sure he knows what game is being played here, at this point - and that he's up for it. (Where do they find these people? Caris isn't just physically perfect, he's also - intriguing.) He's not going to be the first to escalate, though. It would be one thing if he actually had to chase someone, but he doesn't, and it's just undignified to be the one inviting a man into his bed, when he's fully aware that anything he says is more or less an order.

(His bed – or his study, or the library, he's finding himself in the mood to be uncomfortably pinned to a bookshelf like that one time, and Caris might be bold enough for that -) 

 

Anyway, waiting a day seems only fair, he should give the young man - time to get his head in order - he's pretty sure he isn't wrong that Caris was scared, even if he's now hiding it beautifully. And he can use that time to...get used to the idea. 

(And maybe ask a few questions about Caris– no, he'll delegate that to his secretary, who will be responsible and make sure this isn't a hostile plot, but he doesn't really want to put his spies and Thoughtsensers on this, that also ruins the mood.) 

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If his schedule allows it. What a strange man. Carissa wonders if Emperors are usually like this in places who aren't Evil or if Altarrin went to great lengths to arrange for this man. "I will see if I can fit it in, your majesty," he says, raising an eyebrow slightly but not quite daring to depart without being dismissed.

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He does not sigh. He lets a slip a flicker of an ironic smile. "You may go." 

 

 

 

...He wasn't actually finished the work he was doing before, but he's going to take a break from it and go to his private music room to play his harp, and think about how Caris is definitely attractive and also clever and he should - ask his secretary to find out what education he's had, so he doesn't accidentally put the boy on the spot asking him for an opinion on something he knows nothing about. 

(He doesn't do this very often. He's not actually very good at it, compared to the top professional musicians who perform for the Emperor, and he's pretty sure that an Emperor hiding in his private music room and playing the harp badly is deeply undignified.) 

 

- and then he passes the message on to his secretary - find out who sent Caris and make sure it's the harmless sort of scheme, don't tell him anything about that if the answer is the expected one but do tell him whether he can expect the young man to know much history or magic theory or math - and he goes back to work, and doesn't give the matter any more thought. 

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The Emperor's secretary will look up some records and ask some questions and figure out who was involved in handing Caris this particular assignment (and when and how he ended up in Jacona, but that's less important and he won't dig too hard.) 

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Merda handed Caris this assignment, and also vouched for him to be hired. Merda could be working for...any number of people, really. She works for Altarrin at least sometimes. 

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It's presumably not Altarrin, he's known to be pretty distracted by his new girl, the one with the Wild Gift - the Emperor was impressed enough to fund a project, too, so he's not just distracted by the sex - and also he's been focused on the problems down south, and also it's not the sort of plot he would get up to anyway. 

Anyway, if it's Merda he's not actually worried that it's hostile - Merda works for all sorts of people but her loyalties are fundamentally to her own safety first and the Emperor and Empire second, and plotting against the Emperor is not very safe. 

 

He'll arrange to bump into Merda, though, and casually ask if she happens to know where the page Caris is from and what sort of schooling he had? 

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"Well," she says carefully, "I couldn't speak to where he's from, and I don't think he's had a good imperial education, but he's clever and he can read, and I don't expect him to mind if you check what else he knows."

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Most plausible implication: wherever Caris is from, he doesn't want to be specifically associated with it - maybe it's one of the outlying provinces, in the capital there's definitely some prejudice against people who grew up in recently-conquered regions - and he's gotten Merda's cooperation on that, which speaks to...something. (Cleverness, agency, whatever, it's probably something the Emperor finds attractive.) 

He'll go with "limited imperial education but very clever" in his report to the Emperor. 

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And the Emperor will be at the concert! They'll all be sitting down to listen once the musicians start, but it's not assigned seating - he dislikes assigned seating - and there's a candlemark first to mingle. There are a number of side tables offering drinks and light snacks, and servants keeping them stocked but not actually moving around the room to offer them to people. 

(These events are, in fact, fairly exclusive; there are less than fifty people present, a mix of important ministers and nobles and mages who like music, and of more junior people who like music and are also interesting.) 

The Emperor is, again, well dressed and groomed, and mostly not thinking about Caris, though he's put some thought into conversation starters with someone very clever yet not very well educated. 

He mingles. He's very charismatic, even when he's not wearing one of those 'Splendor' headbands, which are very useful for some of his work but also make him feel weird. 

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Caris attends, obviously. He has picked up that the Emperor seems to want him to play mildly difficult to get but that doesn't extend to not showing up to dates. He's underdressed for the occasion, what with having limited resources for acquisition of fancy clothes which aren't Carissa's gowns that'd give the game away.

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Oh, he's cute, maybe especially when underdressed for the occasion

The Emperor is over here! He's talking to the Minister of Trade and the Minister of Trade's current mistress. He will glance over at Caris one (1) time, not quite making eye contact but maybe ogling him a bit, and then make sure to stand so that there's a gap beside him. 

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He's really, really not Abrogail.

 

 

(And that's a good thing! She wants a long life! No more Abrogails!)

 

Caris slips in alongside the Emperor.

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This will earn him a smile! 

(Does Caris already have a drink in his hand? If not, Bastran has arranged to be standing near one of the side tables, so he can pour him a cup of wine without interrupting things.)

“I am glad to see you were available after all! This is Lord Kasdat, minister of trade, and - Lady Briony, right? And this is Caris - he is new to the capital, I believe this is his first concert -”

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In Cheliax that sentence would definitely be part of an elaborate humiliation. Here - he's not sure. If it is, it's not obvious there's anything to be done other than permit it.

 

He accepts a drink and murmurs, "I'm honored" to Lord Kasdat and his mistress.

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(Friendly, relaxed and smiling, but casual, careless, like none of this matters very much but he's still content to be here...) 

((It doesn't matter, so this isn't - shouldn't - even require acting.)) 

 

He'll keep going with the conversation he was already having - he had been asking the Minister of Trade about supply chains to the northeast, the region near-bordering on the absurd god-sheltered country up there - and how much it really makes sense to allocate for bribes. This is probably a conversation that someone smart-but-uneducated can follow? 

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It's very obvious what's going on here and Lord Kasdat has no intention of getting in the way with the Emperor's fun. The Emperor tends to be in a better mood and less strict on which proposals he'll approve, when he's also having some fun. 

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"If you need two people to do a project and you couldn't do it without either of them, they should perhaps each take half the profit. If you could do it without the second fellow, and not without the first, then perhaps the second fellow only merits half of that part of the profit which wouldn't've happened despite him. Now, ordinarily it's hard to track how useful people are and how hard done you'd have been without them, but if you're an Emperor and have lots of fancy accountants, you can set them to projecting how much richer the Empire will be with this thing done, and then pay half that. Really I suppose this is why there's Foresight, so people can know how things would go otherwise and pay accordingly, except apparently it's no good for that."

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Well. That's definitely intriguing and - this young man is not uneducated, though 'not a typical education' he could certainly believe -

 

- and now he's bringing up Foresight, which - actually sort of makes sense, assuming he has minimal education in how Gifts actually work. 

"I guess a more easily harnessable version of Foresight could be used that way! It's a very rare Gift, though, and we usually see the shorter-range kind - possible to learn to control, but only looks ahead minutes to candlemarks. I'm not sure we have any clear examples of people learning to control long-range Foresight, we don't have many examples of it in general." 

Pause. 

"- What do you know about accounting? Sounds like you have some opinions." His expression is trying to indicate that he would be delighted to hear them. 

 

(Does Caris look relaxed? Like he's having a good time? Bastran is ready to top up his wine-cup whenever it seems reasonable and like it would help.) 

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Cheliax does not, actually, especially have as a common relationship script "getting someone drunk so you can sleep with them". Students at a bar would do that; powerful people have no need to compromise your judgment when they can just ignore it. And Keltham, of course, had been disapproving of impairment.

Carissa had taken it, the first night, as an Altarrin thing, and is now rapidly realizing it's an Empire thing. Of course. If as a culture you prize willingness, you figure out how to induce it. 


Caris drinks in moderation. He can't actually afford many slips, here. 

"Old boss of mine ran expensive projects up north, actually," he says. "Can't tell you who, I don't think he'd be very happy about being spoken of here. Myself, I only know how the numbers work on paper, where they always behave themselves, and not in reality, where sometimes they don't. But on paper, you split the gains even, and no one can do any better than that; and if you do less than that, then the other person oughta at least sometimes laugh at you and walk away."

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(...The Emperor is definitely neglecting the conversation with the Minister of Trade, who may or may not be following any of this or even slightly interested. Not that it was an important conversation, but - h'll catch Lord Kasdat's eye anyway, briefly, and make a sort of shrug-flavored-smile expression, meaning that Lord Kasdat is free to go if he's bored but Bastran is not actively making a bid for him and his mistress to give them privacy, just yet.) 

 

"I see." (Again, the words are so carefully chosen - it's intriguing - almost familiar, but he can't pin it down.) "I do think that is very - simplified. In the real world, there are many reasons not to laugh and walk away, that are not about how much someone is being paid." 

(- like compulsions, that's the obvious example, but that's such a moodkiller -) 

"- I mean, usually there are are longer-term agreements, right, between different players - no choice is made in isolation, it matters what your reputation is, and usually that pushes toward people - working together." 

 

 

(He honestly feels stupid, right now, like he's not managing to keep up with this conversation, which - wow - he had not actually predicted this would be so - attractive -) 

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"No, reputation is why to laugh and walk away sometimes if you're not getting a fair cut. Or - there are several reasons, but reputation's the clearest sort of one. If everyone knows you're the kind of person who'll walk away if you're offered less than half, then they'll offer you half, won't they, if they want a deal. - you might ask, well, why not ask for eight parts out of ten, then, but what happens if two people who always demand eight parts out of ten meet? It's worse for both of them than what happens when the people who want half all meet."

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The Emperor isn't going to be extra proactive about refilling Caris' wine-cup if he doesn't seem tense or anxious – which he doesn't, right now, he's very - something - but it's a good something...

"I follow. Though in practice I think it's usually not a situation where both parties have equal leverage, and in real life the - gains - aren't actually split half-and-half, most of the time? ...I'm curious about the other reasons that aren't reputation, if you care to explain. Though maybe give me the quick version of it? The performance is starting in a few minutes." 

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"Well, even if you're never going to meet again, there's advantages to being someone who won't go lower than you're worth. Most people can't bluff that well, so if you say 'I'm not going any lower' and you mean it, that's an advantage. ...plus if you're a rich place like this, there's Thoughtsensers, and mage-works to make people honest. So there's ways it's an advantage to be known to be a particular kind of person which aren't strictly about reputation. 

 

In practice, well, I can say things about what kind of person it'd be the most clever to be, but that isn't the same as being that kind of person, and the kind of person I actually am won't turn down a good thing for being an unfair split. And....yes." He smiles at the Emperor without quite looking at him. "If one party can't walk away then the other gets to name the terms. That's how it goes, sometimes, once you take it off the paper."

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The Emperor smiles back, and does look directly at Caris.

(Caris has excellent lips. And eyes. And - everything - Bastran would probably be less distracted by this if not for the fact that Caris is also clever and confusing and– seriously, though, who found him and where and why...) 

It would be really hot if he couldn't walk away and the other party, for example Caris, got to set the terms is what Bastran is not actually thinking at all, because it doesn't fit into any preconceptions he has about how this could look. 

...Also he is now definitely noticing a sense of familiarity with - how Altarrin talks about things? Which is - uncomfortable - he doesn't actually enjoy his conversations with Altarrin. And it doesn't exactly match anyway, and also this is weird so moving on. 

 

 

 

"You have such interesting ideas," he says, dryly but not disapprovingly. "And I think the performance is starting, we should go sit down -" 

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"As you wish," says Caris in a tone that manages not to sound obedient at all. 

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Oh good

 

There's a seating area - some armchairs, some couches of varying lengths - arranged in a semicircle in front of the musicians' stage. Bastran starts walking that way, not exactly leaning closer to Caris but giving the impression that he might, at some point, soon. 

- and then he'll pause to grab a plate of snacks and refill his own wine-cup. He glances at Caris and half-smiles and jerks his head toward the seating area, hopefully conveying via facial expressions only that Caris should feel free to go ahead and pick a spot for them. 

(There are a couple of cozy two-person couches still unoccupied, and a lot of options that aren't that, and he's - mostly expecting Caris to go for the former, but he does want it to be Caris who picks.) 

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This is so bizarre. 

 

He doesn't exactly mind but - the way seducing people works is that it's like - walking out to sea. For a while your feet are on solid ground, and you can feel that there's a lot more water around you than there used to be, but it's not pulling, it's just there...and then you step too deep, and you realize you can no longer feel the ground and the currents are shockingly strong.

 

Then you drown. Corentyn's beaches aren't suitable for swimming. 

 

 

Anyway, Caris has successfully intrigued him and on Caris's understanding that means the game is won and the being carried away by currents is supposed to start, but the Emperor's dragging his heels and Caris doesn't know if that means he's doing something wrong nor, if he is, what.

He'll pick a couch.

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The Emperor will follow her there! He's balancing a plate of canapés and two cups of wine (he does this very skillfully). Just, you know, in case Caris does decide that he wants his own and if not, this will be easier and more fun for him if he's a little bit tipsy

 

- did Caris in fact pick a cozy two-person couch. If so he's going to be more comfortable being cuddly while they listen to the music. 

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Yep! Cozy two-person couch. Caris is willing to be ...groped? cuddled? toyed with? whatever the Emperor thinks they're doing here, it's fine. He'll drink, too, since he's obviously supposed to. He needs to learn a spell for making alcohol less alcoholic, there definitely is one.

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The musicians are very, very good. 

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The Emperor isn't gropey about it, at least not right away, but - he relaxes, and nods his head to the beat, and his free hand makes vague but happy gestures. 

 

- at some point he'll relax enough to sort of lean against Caris' shoulder, and then look up and make eye contact. (He has at this point drunk most of his own cup of wine.) 

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Well, he doesn't want to interrupt the music, so he's going to be communicating entirely in raised eyebrows. Have a raised eyebrow.

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- well, Caris hasn't been initiating - things - as aggressively as Bastran usually likes, but also he's brilliant and intriguing and confident - at least he is now - and that makes up for a lot. 

The Emperor sets down his empty wine-cup on the end-table, and snuggles up against Caris. He'll maybe even reach for Caris' hand, if there's a good opening for it. 

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Is Caris supposed to, what, start kissing him? Do men even kiss each other? It just seems like a very dangerous thing to do unprompted if you're wrong it's what the Emperor wants!

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Well, not right now, the concert isn't over yet! It's one thing to kiss during a private concert in his suite...

 

...oh, that's a thought, he could arrange that for after this. Maybe. He's not actually sure what will be best for Caris - continuing to do the Caris things that are kind of ridiculously attractive (seriously, who found him and where and how) - maybe he'll use the communication-spell with one of his mages, ask them to arrange for a couple of musicians to potentially be available for a private performance in his suite, but to be clear it isn't confirmed yet. 

(This is not the first time - or even the fifth time - that he's made this request.) 

Anyway! In the meantime he will be snuggly but mostly very absorbed in the music. 

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The concert ends. 

 

...It's probably not going to work, to - snuggle up and hopefully wait for Caris to have a bold plan for their evening - but he is perhaps going to snuggle in silence for a moment anyway, if only to buy himself time to think. 

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(This is basically as expected. The Emperor loves music; this is why there are about four times as many concerts now as during the previous administration. He prefers to be left alone - or snuggling with his latest boy - afterward. ...It's not like it's the strangest hobby for an Emperor to have. It's actually pretty convenient - sometimes you can buy a little bit of his good regard just by pretending to be caught up in emotion when some musicians sing and play the harp for you.) 

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Caris has spent the musical interlude considering his situation.

 

 

It's not that he can't be more forward. He doesn't particularly care to, as a personal quality, but this here is a competitive sport and winning is enjoyable regardless of what you're winning at. The problem is that he doesn't, in fact, want to do exactly what the Emperor's lovers always do, insofar as he can even guess at that, and he does not in fact want to leave the Emperor entirely satisfied and pleased with himself. You don't get married if you already have all the things you want from someone. 

And it feels like there's - something missing here, something more than the Emperor preferring to be lazy while other people make themselves busy pleasing him, which is an entirely normal preference. This feels like a test of some kind, and he hates failing tests, and he's not sure the answer is to do what presumably every single other person in this position does. He has advantages over them. He's safer, more valuable, has more powerful magic, can take a lot more punishment though absolutely no one on this stupid planet seems to appreciate this despite how it's obviously one of Carissa's better qualities - 

- what does that get you? Nothing, without the answer to the question 'what does the Emperor want'. What the Emperor wants quite obviously includes Caris figuring out what the Emperor wants without being told, and doing it without being ordered. Maybe the test is just how much research Caris put in -

- but again, it doesn't feel like that. It feels like the answer isn't one that boys often come here possessed with. 

 

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"You don't want to give orders," Caris whispers to the Emperor's collarbone, once the others have departed. "Do you give hints?"

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??????

 

(Caris doesn't seem nervous or scared, exactly - that's a relief - Caris is pretty clearly aiming for something, here, which might or might not be - good for the Empire - but it's definitely attractive.) 

Lean. "I–" 

this isn't on you, this isn't a fight you can lose, I know why you're here and I'm all right with that and I just want... 

 

There has got to be a way to say this that doesn't ruin the mood. 

"...I like when you're clever. When you surprise me. I like when you - know things I don't." He knows someone sent Caris. He doesn't need to know why. "...I like when you - win the argument." 

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Well, that's easy. I am the cleverest person you'll ever meet, I am full of truly impressive surprises, and I know many things you don't. What I was hoping for was hints about what you want in bed.

 

He is not quite bold enough to say it. 

 

You don't even have an argument you're just lying here.

 

He is not quite bold enough to say that either. 

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"Convenient," he says, instead. "I like winning arguments. I like winning most things, actually, if there's anything else around to be won." Kiss?

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- sure, kiss, but briefly - though not unenthusiastically - just, they're still around kind of a lot of people and it makes it hard to relax. 

"We could go somewhere more private?" he whispers in Caris' ear.

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"My rooms aren't very suitable for guests."

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...yeah actually he doesn't feel like having a whole negotiation out loud about this. Does Caris seem inclined to follow him, if Bastran stands and - well, he would offer him a hand, except they're already holding hands so it's more sort of tugging him along. 

 

(His vague plan, to the extent he has one, is to head to his library, and - maybe while they're walking there he can figure out a good response to what Caris said before - he's embarrassed he doesn't have one already, but...not in a bad way, necessarily...) 

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Caris is pretty sure the in-character and goal-accomplishing thing to do is to happily follow along, squeezing his hand. If it's also true that on some level he has completely wrong expectations about the price of defying Emperors, well, he's not perfect but he's not steering with that.

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This is definitely one of the less awkward ways this could have gone and should not be faintly disappointing

 

They walk back to his suite. He steers them toward the library. It has some comfortable two-person nooks - he'll head for one of those, it's not like he can expect Caris to know his way around Bastran's library. 

 

- and this will go better if he says what he wants to happen next even though this is terrible and not the thing he wants at all actually (and it's, as usual, tempting to ask Caris what he wants but this absolutely never works -) 

 

"I want you to - pin me against a bookshelf and make love to me. ...Later, not quite yet. I can -" he actually doesn't want to call in musicians for a private concert, anymore, "- play the harp for you. If you'd like that." 

...He just said that out loud. He isn't entirely sure why. 

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- ah, see, all right, that's straightforward. Enough so he's not even sure it counts as giving him a hint. 

 

They're not actually in private, he doesn't think, not unscryable private.

 

The harp bit is to Caris's own interests the least interesting part of that set of sentences but he is competent to pick up that it means something - possibly more - to Bastran than the rest does. "You play?" he says inanely. 

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"I do. Not as well as musicians we heard, but, well, they have more time to practice."

Bastran is neither overly embarrassed nor overly pleased-with-himself about anything in that statement, it's a fine line to tread but it's not complicated

"I would like to play for you." (Because when he's - not performing, it doesn't count as that - when he's making music, the world is warmer and brighter and things feel - deeper and richer - and he'd like to have that while he's looking at Caris. It won't make it real but it'll mean the sex afterward is more - fun. Probably.) 

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"as you command" is the wrong answer, he wants to - believe he isn't commanding it? Caris doesn't actually approve of helping him with that, but he's not going to say it when the Emperor doesn't want to hear it.

Or he isn't deluding himself, actually isn't commanding it, but knows the impossibility of conveying that. 

 

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"I would like that."

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Kiss. "I will be right back." 

 

His music-room isn't far away; he's gone less than two minutes. (Though he detours briefly on the way to call out to one of the servants, who brings over a tray with a bottle of good wine and two cups. He's not sure if Caris wants that, and - won't push - but he could use a little more to drink, to - have a good time, tonight.) 

He comes back carrying a harp. Settles it in place on the floor, grabs a cushion. (It's an instrument that makes sense to play while kneeling on the floor. Bastran has never actually thought much about that before.) 

 

He starts to play. He's - not, in fact, nearly as good as the previous musicians, but he's chosen a much simpler piece and he can pull it off gracefully. 

...If Caris doesn't seem bored, he'll move on to a piece with a vocal part. He's pretty sure he has a good singing voice. 

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Caris is trying to very rapidly cultivate a taste in music, it being a passion of his future husband's. He isn't sure he can distinguish 'okay' from 'good' yet, but he can nod along to the beats and smile when the music sounds happy and try to predict the next notes so he can be surprised when his predictions are mistaken.

 

He starts drinking the glass of wine. "You do realize that I'm here on purpose and you don't need to get me drunk" seems like a second date sort of conversation, and anyway, he is nervous - actually. Don't men sometimes have performance difficulty from drinking too much? He puts the glass of wine back.

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The Emperor looks - much happier, while he's playing. (And he may be mediocre at the harp, but he does have an excellent singing voice, a surprisingly deep and rich baritone for his short stature.) 

He stops after the second song, though, and retrieves his own wine-cup, he's thirsty. ...He stays kneeling on the floor-cushion for a few moments, though, just in case Caris will suddenly manifest some boldness and make everything easy from here, though he's not incredibly expecting that. 

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In Caris's defense, here, the problem is even more complicated than correctly interpreting the cross-culturally unpredictable hints!!

- this body is unfamiliar and he's not totally sure what he would even want for himself, if that were a question he was thinking about, which it's mostly not

- if he lights the Emperor on fire he'll definitely die of it and he doesn't know how else to be bold in bed 

- related to that, he - can't? subdue the Emperor? even if the Emperor secretly wants that? he could maybe succeed at that if he'd prepared the magic items, but he didn't and also it's definitely illegal and the kind of thing you get executed for even by nice Emperors. 

 

Can...he...say that?

It doesn't seem like obviously the wrong genre of thing to say but like it's too many steps away from where his quarry is presently standing. 

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Maybe there's a - simpler route. 

 

 

"If you weren't the Emperor," he says thoughtfully, "and weren't a mage at all, actually, and you played me that beautiful music and then stayed there like that, what do you suppose I'd do with you?" 

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- that is one of the hottest things he's ever heard - where did this person come from how is he so perfect - it's unfairly distracting to have to SAY THINGS OUT LOUD while kneeling on the floor in front of someone attractive, and he wants to say "you would do whatever you wanted" but he does not, actually, think he can say that (yet?) and have it result in a satisfying encounter instead of a lot of confusion and awkwardness. 

(It's so undignified, to be this - stuck on how to make a situation go the way he wants - he's the Emperor, he has more to work with than anyone in the world to make things go the way he likes - and it's not actually like he doesn't know what he wants Caris to do to him, actually he has some quite specific ideas, but inconveniently his mind - or other parts of him - feel very firmly that, while it would be incredibly hot for Caris to fuck him bent over one of the book carrels, it is an enormous moodkiller for him to be doing it because the Emperor ordered him to.) 

Maybe he can be...somewhat less specific than that...if he can give Caris a general outline of what sorts of things he likes, then maybe it won't feel as - fake - 

 

"Well. If we imagine I'm a - servant, no one important, and you're a lord, then - you might have called me here to play for you. And then you'd have - some ideas about. Other ways I could - please you." 

He is going to die of embarrassment 

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Ah. So. The Emperor wishes he weren't all-powerful, so that people could do as they pleased with him. That's a perfectly reasonable thing for people to want, she once tried to convince Keltham, and she doesn't think she was lying.

What would Abrogail do about this - it is impossible to imagine Abrogail having this problem. Not even because she wouldn't enjoy being a prisoner, but because she couldn't possibly have the experience unless she'd been actually beaten by someone actually stronger and in that case it wouldn't matter if she enjoyed it or not. 

 

Carissa herself sometimes wants people to hurt her until she doesn't have to think anymore. Would it work even if it wasn't real? If she could tell them to stop, and was choosing not to? Maaaybe? Maybe you could still learn things about your own capacity for endurance from things you didn't have to endure. 

She's overthinking this. If the Emperor wants to pretend to be his own helpless lowborn page then that's just a test of her acting ability. She doesn't need to psychoanalyze him. The thing he wants doesn't need to make any sense.

And maybe he would, someday, want his lover to have real power, so that it could be real. And maybe that's how one ends up running the Eastern Empire. Though obviously he cycles through boys quickly, to avoid precisely that -

- long term strategic planning can wait.

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He seats himself beside the Emperor and smiles gently. He should've picked an older face and body, for this - no, the Emperor almost certainly chooses inexperienced young men on purpose -

"That seems like a dangerous situation, for a pretty servant boy who plays the harp. Why, anything at all could happen to him. Or maybe he's hoping that it will, wouldn't that be something? Maybe he knows in his heart that he's fragile and beautiful and helpless and that his whole purpose in this court is to make pretty noises and spread his legs for his betters. Do you think so?"

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Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah he was not expecting that to WORK and this is absolutely something he's fantasized about and in his fantasies it was nice and not INEXPLICABLY TERRIFYING - though not entirely in a not-nice way - and his heart is sort of pounding and this is ridiculous - he's not actually in any danger he is still in control of the situation it's actually impossible for him not to be and it would be absurd to have a panic attack because the thing he wanted to happen actually happened aaaaaaaaaaah– 

Yes, my lord, is what he would say in the fantasy version of this, but it feels like saying that out loud with his actual mouth will just end up sounding incredibly stupid. 

His breath catches. "Maybe it's - not so dangerous - if, if all he wants to please his - betters and keep them happy - and he's...good at it... But, if he's not good at it yet, because he - needs practice - then that might be dangerous, even if he's. Hoping for it." 

Was that the right thing to say? Is he doing a good job of this?

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Huh, he wants this but he doesn't usually get it? Maybe it ruins it if he has to spell it out in detail and most people can't take a hint because it's admittedly a quite bizarre hint to need to take. But still, Caris would expect that after a few decades someone hits on the right formula and then the gossip mill takes care of the rest, like how the Emperor's physical preference was extremely well-known despite it being technically a secret that he prefers men at all. 

Overthinking yet again. 

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"Well, sometimes men prefer their lovers fumbling and inexperienced, I'm told. So they can train them just right, instead of risk that they've already learned wrong. ...or so they can hurt them for failing, sometimes it's that. I don't suppose our helpless harpist would have any way of knowing.

 

Suck me off."

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Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah it continues to be ridiculous that this is almost MORE terrifying than it would be if it were - real - no he's not going to try to chase down that thought right now, or dwell on the fact that he's very confused about how someone like Caris exists  - this has got to be someone's plot, it's impossible this could be happening by accident - what is Merda playing at - 

(The fact that he's pretty sure Caris is part of a plot and it might be a hostile one is honestly not making this less incredibly arousing.) 

 

He will do exactly as Caris asks. It doesn't even feel like a decision, it's just the thing happening and he feels dizzy and half out of his body but it's fine, better than fine really...

He will be so small and harmless and obedient and try very hard to do a good job and, for this particular part at least, he has a lot of practice. 

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Okay Caris is going to be momentarily limited in ability to plan further events because new interesting things are happening. (He did practice with his new dick before he tried this, to make sure it worked and wasn't going to surprise him or anything, but there were some limits on his abilities to try stuff.)

 

 

 

This is...going fine??? Seems like it's going fine. Seems like it's going really well and it's fine if he just relaxes and enjoys himself. Which is not one of the sex skills he excels at, but - well, this isn't Carissa, who may have given herself some hangups in there, this is Caris, and Carissa's hangups don't map very well to anything about this interaction and maybe Caris can use that to just have a really lovely time.  He's going to avoid thinking about what happens if he fails to have a sufficiently lovely time; that sounds like a self-fulfilling line of thought.

 

And having obedient Emperors at your feet is objectively really really hot. 

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It is not, actually, something the Emperor can afford, to ever stop being paranoid, even when he's - playing a game, or imagining a hypothetical - where he's in danger and also powerless to protect himself and in fact can't afford paranoia, can't afford to look like a threat, has to keep his superiors happy just by being sweet and harmless and someone who would never dare to hurt them - 

- he has kind of a lot of practice at running two threads, the calculating one distant and separate from his racing heart and palm sweaty against the floor where he's holding himself steady and his thighs burning and foot cramping but he certainly doesn't have permission to shift into a more comfortable position. 

 

Mage-sight. Caris is supposed to not be Gifted and to be under the basic compulsions - not the full set that nobles and mages get, but even lowborn un-Gifted pages get compulsions to be loyal to Empire and Emperor, and compulsions against trying to change that fact - and Bastran is pretty sure his people would have checked but he would still feel incredibly stupid if, in fact, Caris or Caris' sponsor has suborned enough of his staff that Caris was able to sneak in with a magical weapon to assassinate the Emperor. 

(His body language will give absolutely no sign that he's doing this. It's tempting to feel like this is disobedience and he should confess and submit to whatever punishment Caris thinks is appropriate for his impertinence, buuuuuuut the Emperor is not actually an idiot and this is not actually a good idea.) 

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He did think about this, obviously. The Greater Hat of Disguise is taking the form of his hair, and his headband is underneath it (he should really have left it off, but he didn't want to). Both are under a Nondetection. It wouldn't stand up to a mage meticulously trying to pry a disguise away, but it passes casual inspection.

 

He could absolutely assassinate the Emperor if he wanted to, aside from the compulsions (which limit him to only doing it if it serves the Empire.) He'd have additionally made a Slaying arrow, easy as that. He hasn't made one. He is mostly relying on the fact that he's too useful to kill but it seems additionally valuable to have no actual means to do any killing. 

 

A mage can also tell, easily, that Caris is not Gifted, and the clothes that he's now hardly wearing aren't concealing a weapon.

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Oh good. He didn't actually expect Caris to be an assassin but it would be incredibly embarrassing and undignified to get assassinated while sucking someone off, and somehow even more embarrassing to need rescuing by his mage-guards. 

Communication-spell. Target to his senior mage-guard. 

<Assume usual precautions taken but - might be good - if someone did some more digging. He's. Very surprising> 

Pause. 

<...Don't interrupt me unless it's an emergency> 

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The Emperor's senior mage-guard is currently scrying the library and making a series of very interesting faces. 

 

- yeah, it seems like a good idea. And it also seems like a good idea to detail someone on reading the page's mind, this is definitely not just because he's extremely curious and it would make excellent gossip. Can he get a Thoughtsenser over, please. (There are servant passages laced throughout Bastran's suite, so they can station someone in range without, you know, actually disturbing the Emperor during his fun.) 

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A fairly junior Thoughtsenser who is nonetheless experienced with discreet spy-duty work can be dispatched for this! He'll be there in five or ten minutes, if that's acceptable. 

 

 

(....He's being assigned to WHAT????) 

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And the Emperor will go back to focusing all of his attention on pleasing Caris, and feeling sort of shivery about what might or might not happen if Caris decides he's insufficiently pleased. 

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This isn't actually having power, this is selling the Emperor the fantasy of being powerless. They're entirely different games (though he thinks he likes both of them, and might even prefer this one). If the Emperor seems to be getting bored he'll decide that he's done. If the Emperor seems frustrated he'll change that. Even if he was displeased he would not, actually, hurt the Emperor for it; he isn't sure what would make the game no longer seem like fun, and he suspects himself of being miscalibrated for this world about how much hurting people is reasonable. 

Anyway he's not displeased and so their game need not involve his displeasure. This is great! This is going about as well as it possibly could be!

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He...thought...that plan was not a serious plan. It's not that he was confident Carissa was joking but he didn't expect her to ACTUALLY TRY IT let alone try it by TURNING INTO A BOY SOMEHOW WITH MAGIC and, uh. Whatever seduction strategy this is??? What are they even doing. Ketar was not aware this was a thing you could do in– ...not technically bed, he supposes. Library floor. 

 

Uh. Probably...someone...should be aware of this? Like, he doesn't think Carissa intends to assassinate the Emperor but if she - he? this is so weird and confusing - can get this close to him while presumably still wearing her magic items, she could absolutely get a weapon in too. And the Emperor, uh, certainly seems distracted. 

 

 

 

What is he supposed to do now - he really doesn't actually want to get Carissa in trouble but his compulsions are really not going to let him away with failing to report this -

 

 

 

:...Merda?: He really hopes it's a good time for her but he doesn't actually pause for her to think back whether it is. :Uh. There's a - thing - that I wanted to make sure you knew about - uh - Carissa is...: This is the most AGONIZINGLY AWKWARD CONVERSATION OF HIS ENTIRE LIFE 

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: - seducing the Emperor? She told me. I told Ellitrea, though I don't know if Altarrin knows yet or not.:

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:Uh. Yes. Th....at: 

 

He watches a few seconds longer in horrified fascination.

:....She - seems pretty successful at it. So far. ...Uh, his staff got suspicious and asked me to mindread her. - Him. He's disguised as a boy with magic - like, all the way, under her– his...clothes...too... I didn't know you could even do that! Anyway I kind of don't want to get her in trouble if she has, uh, permission to do this, she's presumably not going to - hurt him: Except maybe in a sexy way no, she is sensibly deciding not to risk that, which he is relieved about because wow is that something his compulsions think he would definitely have to warn the guards about. 

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Meanwhile the Emperor is not exactly bored but he is definitely starting to find this position really tiring to hold, and uncomfortable in a not-especially-sexy way. He tries to shift his weight without making it too obvious.

(He is maybe slightly frustrated but mostly because he has no idea whether or not he's meeting with Caris' approval right now.) 

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:I have no idea if she has permission: says Merda flatly. :It seems entirely likely that she doesn't. I am sure she won't hurt him, she likes her neck and there's no one she could have worked with on a plan to replace him except Altarrin, who doesn't play games like that. She said she intends to tell him as soon as they're in private.:

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Caris can notice impatience and change plans! "Good job, " he whispers, and lifts his pretty harpist up to look at him. "You're the prettiest little thing, and I am so pleased I have you. I don't want you to get me off just yet. I want you to make more beautiful music for me."

And then he can touch the Emperor. This part is less distractingly new! This part works pretty much the same as if you are a girl!

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Oh is he being scooped up - Caris is really strong, even stronger than he looks, and he's always found it incredibly appealing when bigger and stronger people demonstrate it, especially if they're clearly being gentle but could decide not to be... (Normally he would have to ask if he wanted to be, say, picked up and carried somewhere, which makes it way less satisfying, but he is hoooooping that Caris will spontaneously get around to it at some point, if he decides he would rather have the Emperor more to himself.) 

 

He gasps slightly and sighs and looks up at Caris with a wide-eyed expression that isn't exactly adoring, he's still too guarded for that - and kind of tense, he feels on uncertain footing here even if it's really, really, really good, and feeling - small and young and fumblingly inexperienced and - pretty scared, even if the fear is only of making a fool of himself and not of actual danger - isn't not hot. 

"Of course. Anything you want. You are - so good to me -" and it still feels like it would be correct to call Caris by some kind of title but he isn't sure what would feel right. 

He is not practiced enough at playing the harp to avoid making some mistakes when being touched in incredibly distracting ways, and singing is hard because his breathing keeps catching at inconvenient moments, and he is maybe on some level slightly having a panic attack and also kind of feeling far away from his body, but he will try very earnestly. 

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...This does not give Ketar as much wiggle room around his compulsions as he might have preferred. 

 

But. The compulsions he has to navigate are: obeying direct imperial orders, doesn't apply. Receiving communications from the Emperor, also doesn't apply, and if he were he's pretty sure that the Emperor would be ordering him to leave him alone and enjoy himself. Tampering with compulsions, doesn't apply and he doesn't suspect Carissa of it (which he would have to report immediately.) Loyalty to the interests of Empire (first) and Emperor (second)...

- weeeeeell, Carissa wants to advance the Emperor's interests, right, because her entire aim here is for the Emperor to be invested in protecting her, and she - plausibly wants to be his official consort and bear his heir, but that's not treason by itself, and in this case might be actively serving the Emperor since he has not, so far, successfully produced an heir. But Carissa is going to want the Emperor's reign to be as secure as possible, since it will be the source of her security, and she is - quite a useful person for the Emperor to have serving him, it should seem like a very good idea from the point of view of Ketar's compulsions for the Emperor to be on track to have a personal wizard with impossible powers from another world. 

 

Learning of a threat to the Emperor personally, or to the stability of the Empire: nnnnnnno, it seems unlikely and - at least the way he has it set up in his head right now - the compulsion doesn't force him to be very paranoid about a tiny chance of a threat. 

Accidentally learning a state secret he wasn't supposed to know: not applicable because he is cleared to know about Carissa's magic, in fact, it's his main assignment currently - his service to the Empire right now runs through keeping Carissa safe so that the Empire can benefit from her abilities - and the guards aren't cleared to know and it very much isn't in the interests of the Empire for Carissa's secret to get spread around. (Not to mention Altarrin would be so angry with him.) 

 

Okay. What can he tell the guards.

:He's - experienced with seducing powerful people who want - unusual things: he conveys. :That's why he's managing this so smoothly. ...He's keeping secrets about his background but the person he's working for: himself (...herself) :doesn't want to harm the Emperor and I expect their goals to benefit the Empire overall. I can - keep watching - but I don't think this is higher risk than his, uh, usual flings: 

Which are clearly some risk, but it's equally clear that Emperor Bastran is choosing that, and will not thank them for interrupting his fun. 

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Caris now has a useful source of calibration about how distracted his Emperor is (if he can play the harp, it's not enough) and is doing some testing. Mostly he is aiming for very pleasant distraction. But - what is the tamest possible way of hurting someone which would go over tolerably well even if they have the injury tolerance of a prize racehorse. ...scratching? Hair-pulling? Maybe these can be very conservatively tried in a way that is plausibly accidental if it goes over poorly.

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He doesn't react badly to the scratching, exactly - doesn't get angry or seem offended, or like Caris is exceeded his tolerance for pain - but he's mostly startled; he twitches and misses some notes and...is pretty visibly trying to figure out how Caris wants him to react? 

 

...When she pulls his hair, he reacts much more positively! He gasps and melts against Caris and his eyes go out of focus. 

(The Emperor was aware that he likes having his hair pulled, but he has never before had someone do it without him specifically making the request, and it's so much more when it's catching him by surprise and when he - doesn't actually know at what point Caris would stop - obviously he isn't actually going to seriously injure Bastran, and if he did the guards would intervene and it would be incredibly mood-ruining, but there's still a terrifying-but-not-entirely-in-a-bad-way thrill around not being sure -) 

 

He reacts much harder to the same amount of pain than Carissa would. 

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Okay. This is fine. Ketar is learning things about his Emperor that he is not entirely sure he wanted to know but it's fine. 

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If it's helpful for his compulsions Caris is zero thinking of this as hurting the Emperor, and continues to intend not to do that. He's looking for things the Emperor will react well to, things that go well with powerlessness-the-fantasy without in the slightest altering the Emperor's actual access to power. 

 

(Caris is not going to judge the Emperor for his pain tolerance, though he does think it'd be a debilitating shortcoming in anyone who wasn't the Emperor.)

 

 

Unfortunately it won't occur to him, even after a while, to carry his Emperor off somewhere private, mostly because he'd have to ask for directions to the right place and that just seems ridiculous but also because once he's in private with the Emperor it becomes more suspicious not to have told him the truth. Instead he will act on previous instructions to pin the Emperor to the bookshelves for -

- he absolutely does not want to admit he's never done this before even though it makes sense for Caris, who is barely twenty, to not have done this before -

- how complicated can it be, anyway -

- Caris thinks that girls have it better with respect to sex, actually, getting distracted or confused and temporarily less aroused is much less visible and therefore much less important, and in general it's just much easier to lie about how much you're enjoying yourself  -

- when she was having enjoying-herself problems she should've tried being-a-boy therapy for it, where you can't neglect yourself because you're a boy and it'll be very obvious - Keltham would not have been into that, tragically -

 

Caris is enjoying himself, and so manages to figure things out, hopefully without the illusion having been broken for the Emperor that Caris is just doing exactly as he pleases which happens to be the thing the Emperor mentioned earlier that he wanted. He will fuck the Emperor against the bookshelves and whisper how pretty he is and how fragile he is and how well-behaved he had better be. And pull his hair.

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The Emperor mostly does not notice this! He's really distracted! To the extent he notices anything he - mostly interprets it as himself failing to be good at this - but Caris said that was okay - 

It's definitely about ten times more - intense, more...just more, mostly but not entirely in a good way...than other times when he's been fucked in exactly the same way but had to do all the steering. By the time Caris is finished with him, he is mostly not even managing to overthink anything - he is having a hard time completing thoughts in general, or forming the intention to move. He will be flopped and snuggly and inclined to cling and stare at Caris with drowsy amazement. 

"Did I - do well -?" he manages to say once words are working. 

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.....Ketar kind of has feelings about watching Caris' mind during all of this. He isn't sure what his feelings are. It's confusing. (He is also trying very hard to avoid, himself, getting aroused - it helps that he's not really attracted to men, but it's Caris' mind that he's interacting with, not his body, and he is definitely attracted to Carissa...) 

 

 

 

He had really not expected his life to get this weird. 

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Caris pets his Emperor. "You were lovely. You were perfect."

 

He's very much not out of danger yet and he's accustomed enough to worrying about tropes that he tries not to think 'that went perfectly' but it did.

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Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeh he was good

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...Also the Emperor is now kind of completely out of...people energy...which honestly usually happens after sex, but it feels like this time for different reasons. And he's significantly more off-balance than usual - more off-balance than he's been since well before he was the Emperor at all - and is going to have a hard time being entirely graceful about shooing Caris while not - being discouraging, making it seem like Caris could be in trouble, now that those parts of his brain are sort of in working order again he's very aware that Caris was - extremely bold - and this was exactly what he wanted but Caris cannot read his mind and may not be sure if his guards, who are visibly stationed just outside the library, are going to agree. 

 

"I would like to see you again," he does manage to say. Aaaaaaand it feels very incorrect to be the one who proposes a time, so - "Why don't you send a note, once you decide when would be convenient?" 

(He has also suddenly sprouted a fantasy of Caris showing up unannounced at random times and expecting Bastran to drop whatever he's doing to - please him - but that seems like a lot to ask for after a first date and also he does, actually, have a lot to do, and if it was the middle of the day then it would take him candlemarks to get himself back into the headspace where he can handle meetings.) 

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......Ketar should really tell Caris that he was reading his mind during that, not because his compulsions are making him but because they're friends or at least that's what he - wants to be - and it's understood that sometimes you'll have to mindread people you're on friendly terms with but there's no reason to do it secretly and also Caris could probably use the context. 

 

However, the thought fills his entire mind with s c r e a m i n g  so he is not going to do that. He will give Merda an update that Caris seems to have had an extremely successful initial seduction and the Emperor wants to see him again and the guards are probably going to gossip about him and his mysterious seduction skills and unknown background but he doesn't think they're - suspicious in anything close to the right direction. Merda can decide what to tell Carissa about it later, because Ketar is a coward. 

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Right okay that's a very unambiguous dismissal and no one could reasonably argue that Caris should have told the Emperor certain facts. He nods, and stands, and bows, and says, "I'll write." 

 

And then he departs. 

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The Emperor does not dwell on how things went or daydream about Caris. Being distracted by feelings about his sex life would be an enormous weakness and liability, and he has arranged not to have that problem. 

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Ketar skims unguarded minds for any hint of thoughts or gossip about Caris! 

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It has not failed to attract notice that the Emperor spent an entire concert with a gorgeous young man - un-Gifted, of low birth and no particular importance, but with an intriguingly mysterious history? And certainly bold! The odd conversation with the minister was overheard by several different people scrying it, and speculation is rampant. It's no surprise the boy is clever, the Emperor likes that, but he sounded educated, just - clearly not by the Empire. 

There's a rumor that he's the younger son of the king of one of their southern neighbors, sent under a false identity to learn the Emperor's secrets (which won't work, obviously, and is relatively unlikely even to get him executed.) - no, actually he's the son of a southern king who fell in love with the Emperor from a distance and ran away in secret of his own will. 

- he's a slave from a different southern country, purchased by a particular powerful and wealthy noble who noticed his handsome looks and intelligence, and saw a way to earn the Emperor's favor... 

He was in fact raised by ordinary farmers, but is the secret bastard of a noble lord, who arranged for him to have lessons in seduction as well as economics. 

His looks aren't natural and were sculpted by years of effort by a skilled mage-Healer outside the Empire. 

...that, but also he's much older than he appears and this isn't the first ruler he's seduced. 

 

 

It is remarked that Merda was involved in hiring him as a page. Merda could be working for just about anyone - though probably not the king of a southern kingdom - and, as usual, gives cryptic answers that vary widely based on who she's speaking with. 

 

 

- it is also noticed fairly quickly that Caris is often unfindable to scrying? Which mostly hints that he has a powerful patron; anti-scrying wards aren't unheard of, but a page with no other interesting traits isn't going to get access to them. 

 

Thoughtsensers are rare but Ketar isn't the only Thoughtsenser at court, and some of the others don't just report to Merda and will sell information incidentally gathered - or even take on special assignments - in exchange for favors. (Merda should perhaps warn Caris that when he's scheduled for messenger duties and scryable, probably people will be trying to read his mind.) 

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Caris is well aware of that. He's been working on thought discipline; when he's Caris, he thinks only of his duties, and most of his attention is occupied in...to Thoughtsensers it looks kind of like he is imagining putting tiny pins in a bracelet he wears so that currents can flow through the pins in desired patterns. 

Hopefully this will be widely regarded by the Thoughtsensers who notice it as a weird hobby he's learned to be hard to mindread. They can in any event rule out that it's a Wild Gift; Caris is very obserably not Gifted.

 

He writes the Emperor not the next day, but the following day. He's not trying to play all that hard to get but he does have to be careful to keep the Emperor intrigued and not to seem too desperate. (He genuinely isn't. It's immensely helpful how this entire plan is not in fact strictly necessary.) He proposes that the Emperor show him around the gardens, if it pleases his imperial majesty etcetera etcetera. 

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The Emperor would be delighted! He allows himself an entire five minutes of happynervous while he dictates a response.

He unfortunately cannot make tonight (this isn't playing hard to get, he actually has a conflict and he cannot afford to get so thoroughly - distracted - which will definitely happen even if he blocks in a short assignation.) They set a time for the next evening. 

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The reason the Emperor cannot make that evening is that they have news from down south, and Ellitrea is back to make a report. Altarrin has, in service of his Emperor blah blah, successfully rooted out the religious extremists that were causing all those difficulties in Taymyrr, including a ring in the southern half, the conquest should now go much more smoothly. There was minimal collateral damage in terms of infrastructure; there was a higher rate of unrelated civilian casualties than ideal, because the priest-mages of Atet are really fond of Final Striking when cornered, what a horrible religion even compared to the baseline expectation of horribleness, the people of Taymyrr are so lucky to have been taken under the protection of a much better administration. They lost some troops but no mages. 

 

Altarrin has gone directly to the north to handle some minor issues with an unrelated project, but hopefully it shouldn't take long. 

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Oh good. The Emperor was never in doubt that his Archmage-General would get their minor problem sorted out efficiently, and he's glad to know that Altarrin will be back in the capital soon. 

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(Things that were not said: Altarrin is injured - not catastrophically, or to the point that it would have been remarked on by any servants or guards who don't report to him personally, but definitely to an extent that Velgarth Healing cannot instantly address. He's exhausted. He ended up casting the stupid pastwatching spell, like, twelve times over the course of three days, pinpointing where to have Ellitrea Thoughtsense, and he's functional but mostly running on adrenaline and trained habit. 

And there's been a rash of suspicious accidents and missing supplies at the site of their spellsilver mine in Isk, which is unfortunately very important and also - delicate to delegate, since so much of the context of the project is a secret and he's trying not to make it salient that he's directing a lot of resources that way. But most of why they're operating out of the Eastern Empire at all, and paying all of the other inevitable costs, is to have that infrastructure. It's worth some personal intervention to salvage it.) 

 

 

He did also tell Ellitrea that she could relay to Carissa that he's aware of her Emperor-seducing plan and does not object to her pursuing resources and security, though he very much hopes that she's being careful and has the support she needs. Ellitrea can pass on her requests if there's any way he can help. 

(This is...perhaps not exactly what he wanted to say, or what he would have said if they could speak privately, or the message he would have drafted if he had been less utterly exhausted. But it seemed important to acknowledge some sort of reaction. They can talk more in private about Carissa's plans, and what Carissa needs to feel secure in her work, once he's back.) 

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(He would have told her about the notes on immortality, but that definitely isn't a message he can relay via Ellitrea, who has no idea that Altarrin is - so much more than he appears.) 

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Ellitrea will swing by after the briefing - it's now quite late - to update Carissa on the mission down south. (Or Caris, apparently, if that's who she - he? - is right now.) And she'll pass on Altarrin's other message. 

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Carissa is Carissa right now, crafting in Altarrin's bedrooms. The update mostly doesn't - feel like anything. That's good. The point of this silly project of hers was to stop feeling emotionally invested in Altarrin when he evidently wasn't at all invested in her. The fact that he approves of the Emperor-seduction is more proof of that. She is grateful to him, for the place to land and the breathing room, but he doesn't want her and didn't show her any way to make him want her, and so she doesn't want to care about him. 

"I understand," she says calmly, in response to the message. She's not wearing her Thoughtsensing talisman, so Ellitrea can further read, if she wishes, that Carissa is mostly hoping that by the time Altarrin comes back she'll have new chambers and be out of his way.

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...Yeah. It's not surprising. Altarrin probably won't find it surprising, even. 

 

"- He does care about you, you know," she says quietly. "Maybe - not in the ways that you wanted - but that is why he would help you. He wants you to be safe - he wants it very very badly, and - not just because you are useful to the Empire, he - thinks you are worth it more broadly. But," shrug, "he is the person he is. I think he would not have become Archmage-General if he did - personal attachments." 

As far as she knows the Emperor also hasn't shown previous signs of getting personally attached to his lovers, but presumably Carissa is aware of that, and still thinks her offer is good enough to sell him on, which isn't entirely implausible. 

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She's not even looking for personal attachment, she doesn't think. She probably wouldn't have gone looking for anything else if Altarrin had visibly taken some pleasure from her presence, or from her suffering, or from her body, or anything. ...and then she wouldn't have taken her shot at the Emperor, so good for her that he didn't, she supposes. Maybe it was an elaborate sort of favor, showing her bland sad tired courtesy until she got herself together enough to go take something else. "He has been very generous to me," she murmurs blandly.

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Sigh. "....I hope your plan works out. I - am also here if you need help with anything." 

 

And she goes. 

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Carissa alternates crafting and Dick Practice and doesn't think of Altarrin again.

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The news reaches them very quickly, when it happens, which is a candlemark past noon the next day. 

 

 

 

The initial report is not very informative, because as far as they know, no one on-site survived. 

 

 

There will be an investigation, of course. They're immediately sending a mage north who knows the pastwatching spell, and a military unit with a Mage-General in charge of securing the area. A full investigation will be conducted.

 

Based on Altarrin's final report before his presumed death in the explosion and mine collapse, it was almost certainly the work of extremist Vkandis-worshippers – and wow this has really not been a good year for that. Gods are the worst and their human worshippers are nearly as bad.

 

(There are faint hopes that the Archmage-General might have survived. He's exceptionally good at combat Gating and exceptionally cautious and goes around incredibly well shielded, and thus has made it through some very tight corners before, including at least a dozen assassination attempts. But he would have reported in immediately - or been spotted on scrying if he were badly injured but alive in the wreckage - and the faint hopes are pretty much extinguished by the time the news reaches the capital.) 

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Carissa is not formally in any chain of command that doesn't run through Altarrin personally (and Caris is definitely not important enough to be updated immediately even if he were findable on scrying at that particular moment), and everyone has other things on their mind. 

 

It's an entire candlemark before Ellitrea, badly shaken and mostly hiding it, makes it over to the suite to inform Carissa of the news. 

(She's genuinely shocked. Altarrin has - always, in her mind, been close to invincible. She keeps replaying the last few days in her head. Should they have delegated the situation in the north to someone else? She understands why he didn't but - what a disaster - even the Emperor doesn't know just how hard Altarrin is to replace...) 

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Because she's fundamentally a selfish person the thing that comes to mind is that all her eggs are back in one basket now. 

 

But she is sad. He had been - trying to mine spellsilver for her. Trying to fix his stupid world. The gods had assassinated him for it.

Of course he might no thinking about that with Ellitrea around and it doesn't change Carissa's strategy situation much anyway -

"My condolences," she says. 

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(Ellitrea is not actually reading Carissa's mind right now. It's - Altarrin didn't want that, he wanted Carissa to - have space to have goals and ambitions and not have to constantly prune all of her thoughts into a shape that doesn't make her look like a threat. He wanted Carissa to be powerful, and, well. She's making some headway on that.) 

 

"We did get the most recent spellsilver shipment before - this - happened," she says, in lieu of anything more contentful because what are you supposed to say. "We have seventy pounds here. I think - that should cover your work for a significant length of time, no -?"

(She does not say out loud that it'll stretch longer if Carissa is spending half of her time on, instead, seducing the Emperor. Honestly the seduce-the-Emperor plan is seeming like less of a wildly disastrous idea than it did before? If one follows the gossip and has also received a private report from a certain junior Thoughtsenser, it sounds like actually be oddly compatible.) 

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"Yes. I owe the Emperor another shipment of headbands this week and then intended to start work on the translation rings he requested. - I'd have someone else deliver them to the Emperor on my behalf, if that can be arranged. I shall be in mourning." No one has actually made the Caris-Carissa connection -- Carissa is an unusual and foreign name, but Caris isn't, and not that many people know Altarrin's girl's name and the gossip about her died down a while ago. And it's impossible by the local laws of physics. But if she shows up before the Emperor there's the chance he'll still pick up on something, and besides he'll feel more tricked if he's known her in both guises. She doesn't want him to feel tricked. She wants him to feel conquered.

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"Of course." 

(Has Carissa not told the Emperor yet? Wasn't the plan that she would– ...Not her problem, right now, she has five thousand other problems and also everything feels unsteady and awful and it's going to be fine, she knows that, the Empire has survived stupid pointless wasteful violence from the gods before - at least Altarrin dealt with Taymyrr first, before this happened, it could have gotten substantially out of control if someone else had needed to get up to speed...) 

 

She'll leave Carissa to mourn. Or scheme, or whatever. 

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The Emperor is not having emotions. 

 

 

He mostly doesn't have to make judgement calls, either. There are processes in place for responding to a disaster like this. There will be some very awkward diplomatic ramifications with Iftel, if - when - they get more formal confirmation that followers of Vkandis were involved. Iftel will predictably deny involvement and even have credible documentation that it couldn't have been their people and he does not buy that at all. Anyway, he has diplomats to handle that, and mage-experts to handle the investigation, and a competent mage-general to put in charge of security in Isk because clearly the fact that Isk was annexed a century ago doesn't mean it's secured

 

 

He's the most powerful man in the Empire, plausibly in the world, and he still couldn't stop this and he can't fix it

 

 

- he isn't exactly in the mood for a lighthearted walk in the gardens, but he...does want to see Caris, apparently. (This is unusual. Normally he doesn't want to see his lovers when other things are wrong, or - complicated.) 

 

He dispatches a messenger with a note. His deepest apologies, can they reschedule for two candlemarks later and meet at his suite. 

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If Caris didn't know the circumstances the response would be slightly snarky. Not a refusal, obviously, but a - chiding for the inconvenience and a demand that'd cause one of the Emperor's servants some rushing-around. Perhaps he would write that he'd had evening plans to acquire a white peacock from a different admirer and would be delighted to see the Emperor instead assuming the Emperor could make up the white peacock. 

 

Since he does know the circumstances he doesn't do that, obviously. He replies that he'll be there. 

 

They may step up palace security. She should tell the Emperor tonight. Except he's going to be in a mood, presumably, about Altarrin, and she was aiming to get some more dates in first, and -

- and now that it's her only shot it's much more frightening to consider telling him. She'd meant to present her proposal with a sort of delighted indifference. I'll be your lover and bear your children, or I'll find someone else and send you monthly expensive invoices, the choice is yours. 

It has to be a game and it doesn't feel like a game right now. 

 

She's not sure whether she'll tell him or not. It depends what he's like when she arrives.

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The Emperor is there to open the doors to his suite for Caris and usher him in himself (presumably one of the guards she passed gave him an advance warning when Caris was getting close.)

He's not disheveled, exactly - he's clearly someone used to keeping his appearance immaculate - but it's also sort of noticeable that he hasn't had time to preen and pick out a fresh evening outfit.

He's tense. It's not incredibly noticeable - he has a lot of composure, presumably decades of practice at it - but compared to how he was after their last meeting, it's glaring. 

 

(He's able to summon some of the happynervous feeling again, but mostly he's...off balance, in a completely different way from before - the ground just shifted under him and it feels like he didn't know it could do that, not like this, though of course that's stupid, assassinations and gods are an occupational hazard here and Altarrin is - was - very very good, but he's rolled the dice so, so many times, and it's not like Bastran was expecting to have him for his entire reign - it's not like Altarrin was expecting that and he's always been very responsible about making sure the move to his successor would go smoothly, if it were needed - but. It doesn't feel allowed.) 

 

"Caris." He doesn't quite bow, but - ducks his head in a deep nod that's sort of bow-adjacent. "I - can I get you anything, have you eaten yet -?" 

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"Thank you. I'm not hungry." Well, it doesn't look like an obviously dangerous mood. "Are you well?" 

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"I–" 

And he abruptly doesn't want to keep wearing this face. He's...not sure what face to wear instead. It's not like it even makes sense to say there's anything real underneath the face he's deciding to wear Also, probably being miserable about a totally-not-unprecedented and fully recoverable situation is - unattractive? 

 

He shrugs, slightly, ducks his head again. "I'm - as well as I can be, given the day it's been."

Does Caris look bored or annoyed - no - he's actually having a hard time reading what Caris is feeling but not bored or annoyed, he doesn't think.

"- I hate gods. It's so - wasteful - I don't understand why anyone worships them, it's just - always things like this, or like Taymyrr -" He cuts himself off with a faintly embarrassed headshake. "I don't mean to bore you," he still really really wants to say my lord and it still feels like it would sound completely stupid out loud. "It's– we can find a more cheerful topic, if you prefer." 

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"I wouldn't've asked if I didn't want an answer. Let's sit down, though."

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- it would be nice if Caris, like, led the way on that, but also he's seen one room plus a hallway in the Emperor's suite and it's unreasonable to expect him to know where is appropriate to the mood. 

He'll - reach out to take Caris' hand, in a way that manages to come across as shy despite the fact that he has not switched off his imposing Emperor-presence - and walk with him to the parlor. Which incidentally (not accidentally, at all, he did some planning here) involves walking past the half-open door to his bedroom, the inside dimly lit by a permanent mage-light on its lowest setting, imitating candlelight. It doesn't feel right to go there just yet - and he can't let go of the fantasy of being carried there although probably it's unreasonable to expect Caris to guess something that specific - but Caris is very clearly clever and observant and...experienced in seduction, or something like that...and might, maybe, notice? 

 

The parlor is very fancy - moreso than the library - and is small, appropriate for groups of two to ten people, but has a range of seating options, from armchairs around a little table to a long settee to a cozy loveseat beside the fireplace. 

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It's kind of astonishing how little the man wants to decide but maybe it gets pent-up if you're Emperoring for decades. Caris has considered it and actually thinks he, too, would eventually get kind of weird if no one could hit him. 

He picks the cozy loveseat.

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He takes a tray with wine-cups and a bottle from the cabinet. ...Pours a cup for himself, because he's not actually quite yet in the mood where it would be appealing to instead wait on Caris' permission or something, but he'll leave the bottle and second cup easily within reach rather than make that decision for Caris. 

 

"Today was - unfortunate, but recoverable," he says, after a few beats. "Not worth ruining our evening over. I just - haven't quite managed to relax yet, I guess."  

(He's - calm, poised, smiling apologetically - but definitely saying this like someone who is trying to convince himself more than Caris, and who may or may not have an enormous pile of emotions that he is mostly unaware of and definitely not letting himself look at directly.) 

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That doesn't sound like a second date kind of problem, it sounds like a ...fifth date kind of problem. He reaches for, and squeezes, the Emperor's hand. "I hate the gods too. If I had that kind of power I'd do cool things with it."

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That gets a startled smile, and returning hand-squeeze. "Oh? What sorts of things would you do?" 

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"Well, it sort of depends what the powers are, I assume they're not actually limited to assassinations and explosions? Where I grew up people conceptualized them as - bigger kinds of minds that could comprehend each other, communicate with each other, but barely with us, and which steered the world using Foresight - so they could pull off my payment schemes. And if that's what's going on then you can teach people to have more - regularity in them, to have there be more of a fact of the matter about what they'll do, and that'd help with communications ..."

 

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"... but really the thing I'd do is a life after death. I hate it, that there isn't one. It feels like it's lurking over my shoulder, every day, every waking hour, that this is it, and it's so fragile, and they could find somewhere to let the souls go on - I mean, I don't know if they could. I'd figure it out."

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How is he so perfect 

 

 

 

 

Altarrin would have liked him damn it that's a sad thought, not a sexy thought, because he's never going to get to introduce them now and it's so pointless... 

- well, he doesn't think he actually feels like pretending to be cheerful and charming, right now, though certainly if Caris doesn't like maudlin he is entirely within his rights to order Bastran to quit it and do something more pleasing instead but he's not going to - try to guess that pre-emptively, right now. 

 

"You'd have had - interesting conversations with him," he says wistfully. "- Altarrin, I mean. I don't know if he ever - had that idea specifically - but it's the sort of idea he would have. He– he wasn't just an Archmage-General, he - had bigger ideas than that." 

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" - we met, actually. He mostly seemed a ...very sad man. And a very busy one. I am not surprised that gods that are - the enemy of progress, civilization - would be enemies of his.

I'm sorry for your loss."

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....Emperor Bastran has kind of a lot of questions about that but actually maybe he mostly wants to gulp more of his wine and snuggle up against Caris shoulder and - 

 

"What would you - have of me, tonight?"

It's probably way too much to ask for Caris to know exactly what will work to make him stop thinking and - feel for just a little while the way he did the other night, like he was small and didn't matter and all he was for was beautiful music and sexual favors and this entire mess couldn't possibly be his problem, what could an ordinary harpist do about merciless gods and religious extremists and deaths in the top ranks of the Empire's hierarchy - but probably a lot of things would be...at least sort of good...and he's done so much steering today already, he is out of steering right now. 

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Your Empire, he doesn't answer. That's a third date sort of joke. 

 

Probably when a man is grieving you want to - distract him, more than challenge him. Kiss him and grope him and pull his hair and tell him he's pretty. Carissa would want to suffer but she's - not sure that part applies, here, and it remains such a dangerous thing to test. 

 

It will at some point occur to Caris to carry the Emperor over to the bedroom. He did see the pointedly open door, and he can take a hint.

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This is good. This is much better than wasting his evening not having a good time just because a moderately bad thing happened, the sort of bad thing that happens at least a handful of times in every Emperor's reign, and Altarrin knew what he was getting into, took on those risks willingly, and Bastran is pretty sure that Altarrin wouldn't want him to be sitting around being maudlin in not even a productive way. So he's definitely not doing that! Not even a little bit! 

 

It's going to take somewhat more effort on Caris' part, since the Emperor is starting out more tense and with more purely internal distractions, but Caris is almost certainly adequate to the task. 

 

 

 

 

(Bastran would...on some level maybe kind of like to be hurt until he's definitely not having any thoughts, but Caris is not wrong that he might not be calibrated on the right level of pain to aim for, or wrong that it's dangerous to test.) 

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- it turns out that being snuggly and clingy after sex is a persistent trait the Emperor has, and works out more conveniently now that they've actually ended up in a bed. 

He's not even going to make any particular move to shoo Caris out, though he also seems pretty disinclined to start a conversation. 

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She needs to tell him.

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She told Merda she would, and Merda's going to be angry, if she in fact doesn't do it at the first real opportunity. Quite plausibly march in here and tell the Emperor herself, actually. 

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He's not in the right mood for it. She wanted him curious, intrigued. He's - sad and sleepy. This is going to take - more finessing.

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He enjoys being clung to for a while.

 

"I actually need one more thing from you," he says evenly, firmly, like they're still playing the game they were a few minutes ago. "I need you to check the protections on the room - I'm not a mage, I can't see them."

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This is - mildly confusing and he thought they were DONE what is Caris planning for him NOW  it's fine he will still do a good job

(- this would definitely be the leadup to an assassination attempt except that Caris continues not to be Gifted or wearing any artifacts or carrying a weapon - that is, uh, even easier to verify now that there's hardly anywhere concealed he could put it - and the protections on the room are incredibly extensive and rivaled only by what Altarrin has, the paranoid bastard, how did he manage to get himself killed anyway, was he even trying, and include not just thorough shields against any outside attack, but an extensive ward and alarm setup to summon guards to the room in case of any unauthorized discharge of magic or change in the Emperor's life-force or at the presence of a magical artifact with any of these properties. And that's not even mentioning the protections he's wearing on himself, as discreet jewelry that he doesn't actually remove even in bed because he is not stupid, on top of the fact that he is Gifted and a powerful mage and he stays in practice with combat sparring.) 

 

...doing those paranoid checks should be unsexy but there's - a sort of thrill to it, actually, for all that it breaks him a little out of the hypothetical of being a harmless fragile powerless harpist - he's curious, and happynervous again as he sits up and leans into mage-sight and goes one by one through all of the magics laid on his walls. He's thorough. He explains it on the assumption that Caris does, actually, know quite a lot about magic, and wouldn't prefer the simplified layperson explanation. He includes the wards and alarms, which are on the room, but not the talismans which are on him

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"Good," says Caris approvingly, and kisses him.

Deep breath. "I am from another world."

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...He goes very still. 

(Oddly, the Emperor is very sure this isn't a joke, or some sort of misdirection to distract him. The rumors about Caris were wild, and this is - moreso - but it feels like the answer to a question he hadn't quite realized he had, falling into place.) 

"Who else knows?" He says this softly. Not angry. Very level. He hasn't moved a muscle but somehow his posture is not at all that of a pretty unimportant young harpist. (It's not the thing Altarrin does with his body language, it's subtler than that.) 

 

Bastran is, meanwhile and without giving any external indication of it, reaching out with the communication-spell; there's a gap in this shields for it keyed to his own magic or to a particular rare and secret version of the spell, and one of his guards is probably stationed right outside the magically soundproofed door. He knows it makes them...nervous...whenever he takes a new lover in private.)

<Maximum alert> he sends; they'll set all the wards and alarms to the most sensitive parameters. <Don't intervene yet but - check in ten minutes, if I haven't interrupted by then> 

It's sort of the bare minimum precaution to be taking that isn't just being completely negligent, now that he knows the beautiful man in his room might have unknown capabilities that he can't detect, but - his gut, which can of course be tricked by sufficiently good acting but is pretty acute, still tells him that Caris isn't here as a threat. 

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"Merda. Two of Altarrin's Thoughtsensers - Ellitrea, Ketar. And Altarrin knew, when he was alive." Caris is trying very hard to walk the line of not seeing terrified and obedient but also not seeming like a threat. Relaxed, calm, focused on the Emperor. Hopefully it's obvious that if he wanted to kill him he'd have done it before alerting him.

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Yeah, that's part of why the Emperor's reaction isn't mainly one of alarm, and why his first act wasn't to set off every ward and defensive mechanism in the room. 

"How did it happen, that it's - that set of people?" It - rings a mental bell, but a quiet one, so far. "- Actually, backing up. How does one just - end up here, from another world? Did someone send you with magic? Why?" 

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"I don't understand what happened. My world has magic that can be used to travel between worlds, but I didn't use it and wouldn't have had any way to target this place. I just - ended up here. Landed on Altarrin. He would have alerted you of, uh, a girl."

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"Oh.

 

(He doesn't look angry. He definitely looks something - kind of upset, actually - but not angry.) 

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"....Never mind that doesn't actually - answer my questions - I'm still confused. Were you pretending to - be a girl for Altarrin - because he prefers that - and I guess maybe you could have gotten it past him, even, if you were - one of the ones he didn't sleep with–" He looks puzzled and perhaps faintly impressed. 

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"I can have whatever body I like. I made a magic artifact for it. I was a girl for Altarrin, as thoroughly as I'm a boy for you, though in fact he didn't want me and never touched me. ...to be fair I didn't exactly try seducing him. I was nervous and disoriented and by the time I found my footing I'd decided I wanted you."

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"What were you–" 

He shakes his head, not as though disagreeing, more like he's trying to dissuade flies. "I - don't - I'd thought maybe you - needed another patron - but you were trying for me before he died - did he know–"

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"I told him that I planned to try. He didn't mind, because, again, he didn't want me. He would've - sheltered me and pretended in public, as long as needed, but that wasn't what I wanted. Even aside from - what just happened."

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Nod. 

 

 

...It's hard to think. Some part of it is crying out that it feels wrong, that - Altarrin should have gotten to have this, Altarrin who– he'd never framed it this way, but Altarrin was sad, and busy, and - never indulged, never took advantage of his position even in ways that wouldn't have traded off against his service to the Empire - even though he's one of the people who advised Bastran on taking his pleasures where and when he could. It is a heavy load to carry, to be the most powerful man in the Empire, he said once, behind shields, when he had just been appointed. I would not have you make any unnecessary sacrifices on top of that. And Bastran remembers not really understanding at all, or maybe thinking it was mostly about the long hours, but he thinks he sees it better now. Except he's not sure if Altarrin ever followed his own advice, and maybe before it felt like why would he, maybe he too was carrying a heavy burden but it didn't strain him, surely, he was a man with magically-reinforced-concrete at his core, he could have stood a thousand years with it. 

(Maybe that wasn't true. Maybe that was the thought of an inexperienced thirty-year-old Bastran, tutored almost since birth as one of the candidates for Emperor, with elite skill at sparring and a thorough education in the Emperor's history, clever and handsome and charismatic and as ready as anyone could possibly be, but - still absorbing it.) 

 

He's awed that Caris, who could have been anyone and had anyone, wanted him 

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Altarrin would not want him to be distracted. Altarrin would want him to be focused and in control and leverage this bizarre situation to the good of the Empire (and if he can also make it work for his own interests, a bonus, but the Empire comes first.) 

He takes a deep breath, and - steps back - the world is on the other side of a pane of glass - 

 

"I'm getting the feeling that Altarrin held back rather a lot of what he was planning with you," he says quietly. "I want to know everything." 

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"The artifacts I can make, with the metal that - the gods just stopped us from refining - they can do a lot. The body-changing, the headbands, I bribed Merda with an artifact that makes her a bit of a limited Thoughtsenser. I can make you that too, on top of the translation item I'm delivering next week. And...my magic can be taught, it doesn't run in the blood like Gifts do. I was ....arguably the best in the world, where I'm from, you won't get a lot more of me, but you can get people competent to make the minor items -  at home, I had actually developed an assembly-line process so they could be made by less experienced crafters in pieces that are individually easier to learn. 

We didn't want to - plan things the gods could see and counter. I guess we failed at that. I'm inexperienced at planning around Foresight, where I'm from it's broken and the gods are blinded. If not for that I'd ask you for help identifying promising students I could tutor in the basics. Now, of course, I'm nervous about moving too visibly-to-Foresight, too fast."

 

'Tell me everything' is an inconvenient order, from someone she's bound to obey, when there's in fact a lot she's not interested in telling him. Doesn't serve the Empire for him to learn of Altarrin's immortality, or her own ambitions on that front, because if it did Altarrin would've told him; Altarrin knows a lot more than her about what serves the Empire so she's not going to share things he didn't. 

She lets the order tug her into rambling about magic education in Cheliax. "You can see who's smart enough not just to pick up Prestidigitation but to get really good, and it's at least a tenth of them, more if children don't go hungry much. You learn magic best under pressure, so most academies are very dangerous, and my home country deployed us to the front lines of a war with the Abyss for ten years once we graduated. ...of course, we had afterlives, it'd be sort of awful doing the same thing here..."

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He's so hot now is not the time to be thinking with his dick. This is - maybe the most important thing to have happened in the entire history of the Empire - this could change everything - Altarrin was right, to take it seriously, he remembers being mildly puzzled by how hard Altarrin was pushing on the mine so that his new girl could use her "Wild Gift" and now he thinks that almost certainly Altarrin didn't take it seriously enough...

He does, just barely, manage to remember to communication-spell his senior guard again and stand down the high alert. It would be so embarrassing if a troop of. guards stormed in to incapacitate his lover, and even more awkward if this doesn't work - he assumes Caris also took precautions and who knows what they are - 

 

He has a lot of questions about Caris' home world! He takes notes. He doesn't let himself get too distracted by digressions - their world is what's important, once it's clear that Caris has no idea how to find it again, and if Altarrin had thought that was feasible he would have himself prioritized it more highly. But he wants to know about their afterlives - so that's why Caris had that idea, when asked what he would do with the power of the gods (it's so hot) - and how exactly they ended up at war with the Abyss. He wants to know how the gods were blinded because if they could do that here, that - might be the most transformative possible path.

(Though not a priority until they're more secure in their position and resources, since one assumes the gods will very much notice the ripples-back-in-time from that and throw even more resources at stopping it.) 

 

He asks some probing questions about the government structure in Cheliax. Do they use an equivalent of compulsions? It sounds like their rate of people who are anywhere near equivalently powerful to Master-and-higher mages is not that different from the Empire's rate of Gifts, and the weakest levels of wizardry aren't more destabilizing than having widespread magical artifacts to take care of household tasks (which they don't have yet, not in small villages and farmers' homes, but someday...) But the magic has such different capabilities - the bodychanging in particular is terrifying for spies and assassins - and Cheliax doesn't also have mages - it seems like it could easily be politically destabilizing, to make this project public and push hard, what they would need to do to earn that world where one in ten children have even some some of the powers Caris does... 

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"We don't have anything like compulsions. We do routine loyalty checks with our Thoughtsensers, announced and unannounced, for people important enough to be dangerous, and powerful wizards, who are the greatest defection risk, have sold their souls, so disobedience would be punished in the afterlife....Cheliax had a state church. Our god was Asmodeus, and He's - well, I was planning to overthrow him. I don't really mind all the torture or all the slavery but I thought He was being wasteful, destroying people, making them - not even want to keep existing -"

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"- Your country belonged to a godLike Iftel? That -" Shiver. He doesn't actually try to hide it. "I can't actually decide if I like him better than Vkandis because at least Cheliax is wealthy, or whether he's even worse because as far as I know Vkandis doesn't bother to torture people. ...Doesn't bother to give their souls anywhere to go, either, I suppose that's just as wasteful in a way."

Frown. "I imagine Altarrin was - very opposed."

Altarrin is very rarely angry, but - he would have been, about that. The Emperor spends a few moments trying to figure out if he should also feel that way, if he's just - failing to produce much emotion either way because there's so much else to worry about, and then mentally shrugs and moves on. It's not like Altarrin would approve of him having a lot of feelings about things in other worlds that he can't do anything about, not when there's so much to be done right here. 

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"People tend to be very opposed to Asmodeus." She's still avoiding bringing up Keltham, and the compulsions don't like it. It's a really terrible idea to tell the man you're seducing about your ludicrously complicated relationship with your ex, though. Doesn't serve the Empire for him to end up not liking Caris. Doesn't serve the Empire for him to end up not liking Caris.

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The Emperor's current feelings toward Caris - in the romantic sense - are hard to read. He is definitely rapt, there's growing respect and admiration, but he's very -controlled. Mostly it seems like he's suppressing any attraction or arousal very, very hard, focusing entirely on the content of his report. He's tense. 

 

 

Eventually he gets around to asking which of her artifacts she's currently wearing. "I can't - see them at all - I didn't know that was possible -"

It's terrifying. Caris probably could have assassinated him and instead chose to seduce him and this is one of the hottest thoughts he's ever had. (At this point, it's going to be more noticeable to Caris that the Emperor is aroused and failing to squash it.) 

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A nice thing about Cheliax is that it gives you very low expectations; the Emperor hasn't in fact had him tortured for his insolence yet so this is clearly going great. 

He's pretty sure the seduction situation is - still in reach, though the precise next move isn't obvious.

"The ring is magical with a spell called Nondetection hiding it, and, uh, my hair is actually a magic item disguising itself and my headband, also with Nondetection. If you take that one off, or ask me to, I'll revert to the physical form I was born in - it's female - and also be a bit less witty." That's not even meant to be misleading understatement, just humor; he's explained by now what the headbands do.

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Bastran has given no sign of being the sort of Emperor who has people tortured for insolence! (He's pretty clearly comfortable with having people executed, even with major civilian casualties, and with keeping the former Kings of outlying provinces as mind-controlled puppets - one of his questions earlier was whether Carissa's magic would risk having that strategy stop working - but he doesn't seem to have considered that casual torture is particularly an option.) 

 

"That's very useful - and I want to keep it an extremely closely-held state secret, I think. I see why Altarrin was so secretive about you. We'll need to make more of it public eventually, but - it can be once you're confident that you have magic items to counter most of our magic that could be used to harm you." 

Slight frown. "...Altarrin gave you - Carissa - a talisman to block Thoughtsensing, right? Did you decide not to wear it, for this - I ordered a Thoughtsenser to read you on the first night, you were so - mysterious - and I didn't get a report of anything suspicious - they would have told me immediately if they couldn't read you -" 

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"Yeah, I figured the game would be up immediately if I was wearing it. I was trying to just - think about you and hope they couldn't quite interpret anything sufficiently bizarre that crossed my mind. I've been spending most of my time as Caris crafting, which I think just looks like bizarrely specific daydreaming if you don't know what you're looking for, and thinking about my duties and you and nothing more complicated." Shrug. "Ellitrea knows everything, if you want to have me mindread properly while I'm not distracting myself."

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"I want to do that." 

Sigh. 

"Caris. You're very attractive and very compelling. But I - need to think. It's - it changes a lot, if we're working together on the most important project in the history of the Empire." 

He ducks his head, and looks uncertain again. Shy. His body language is open and unguarded - mostly, it's pretty clear he still hasn't dropped any of his situational awareness - and he looks much more Bastran the naive young harpist who lives to serve his betters, than Bastran the ruthless and decisive (well, not by Cheliax standards, but enough to get by here) Emperor of the most powerful Empire in the world. 

"...I don't know. I - am very attracted to you, you're incredible at this, I don't know who taught you to seduce Emperors but they did a good job. Just, I don't normally, well, mix work and pleasure. It's– it adds complications, right. I don't know if I can afford complications when the stakes are just this high." 

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It's terrible how the one thing the Church wasn't lying to her about was how annoying and useless Good people are. 

"The deal I'm offering is that you'll be mine as long as you like it and I'll do this work in the service of the Empire as well as I possibly can. I am not actually offering another deal where you nobly refuse me and then I toil away in a workroom because it's the right thing to do, I'm not really into that."

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He doesn't technically need Caris to agree to this

 

 

(Is that...true? Normally - yes, obviously - even in this case Caris is under the standard compulsions, should have to obey the Emperor's orders - but it's....less obviously true than usual.) 

It's intensely unreasonable how much of a turn-on that is. 

 

Does Caris need him to agree to this deal okay that one is definitely thinking with his dick. He's not entirely sure that Caris doesn't have compulsion-like magic but he's - pretty sure that using compulsions on the Emperor is not going to look like a good idea from where Caris is standing. 

 

 

(....He's going to go for it. This is - predictably what he always does. And then very plausibly it's going to be a mess in some way, and a distraction, and - he's going for it, he - does not actually have the willpower to decide it's too much to risk, and Altarrin isn't here to tell him otherwise, is he.) 

 

 

"I...I need to think," he repeats. 

 

 

He'll summon Ellitrea for mindreading services. It'll be a couple of minutes. Apparently Ellitrea had arranged to be conveniently nearby. 

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"I won't refuse you that, but do be reasonably efficient about it." Caris would light himself on fire, at this point, were he an Emperor.

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Ellitrea is there a few minutes later. She looks - relieved, mostly, it looks like however this went the Emperor isn't furious or something. 

 

 

What's Carissa Caris thinking. Wow that's bizarre. Ellitrea hasn't actually spent a lot of time in the presence of boy Carissa. 

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Caris thinks this is going quite well though he is kind of judging everyone slightly for their unwillingness to call him on his most outrageous behavior (by which he means, break a few bones or light him on fire or whatever). He's used to external checks on that, and is going to have to be careful if there simply aren't any. Presumably at some point something bad still happens if you keep pushing. 

 

He likes the Emperor, aside from the Goodness, which he can probably beat out of him once he's better calibrated about how to do that so your victim has fun. He's not Abrogail but probably, in fact, people shouldn't be Abrogail. A satisfying sex life seems very attainable and Caris can switch up bodies before the Emperor gets bored. He thinks he got lucky, in a way, that the Emperor was busy moping about Altarrin; it made him more Good, but also less of his anger was directed at Caris or something. He shouldn't be glad Altarrin died in front of Ellitrea, she won't appreciate that. (It's not that he's glad Altarrin died. It's just that it's not sad the way most people dying would be because ugggh stop that line of thought.) He didn't know Altarrin as well as either of them; he lost an acquaintance and they lost a long-standing friend. 

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Ellitrea internally makes a face at "he can probably beat out of him" but...in context...it actually seems like this is fine. It's not like it's news to her that some people like pain in bed, or punishment, or being asked to serve and punished for failing, or being humiliated, or being put under compulsions - that's actually quite popular. (As a Thoughtsenser, one sees rather a lot about other people's sex lives. 

Caris mostly just has - very weird Cheliax-shaped priors about what amount of punishment is how significant, and - right, also the weird magic durability that may or may not be a wizard thing or a Golarion thing, maybe being lit on fire just doesn't damage her much. Someone should, uh, probably...talk to her...about the fact that if she lights the Emperor on fire when he doesn't specifically have a heat-absorption shield up, she could hurt him quite badly and scare his guards even more badly and actually she just shouldn't do that even if the Emperor finds it a turn-on, which Ellitrea does not put past him. 

(Usually one's compulsions would prevent even attempting this, but higher-level compulsions - the ones that affect planning on a broader scale - are significantly interpreted via intent, and it does not seem like Caris thinks that being set on fire would especially be harming him.) 

- she's going to make Merda do that because it sounds incredibly awkward. Doesn't seem urgent, anyway, Caris is being appropriately careful. 

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The Emperor suggests a time for them to meet again, tomorrow night after his meetings are done; he's not actually in the correct mood, right now, to play the game where Caris gets to decide that. 

He doesn't initiate hugging or kissing Caris goodbye but he's not going to object if Caris does. 

(Vague wistful thought, earlier he had been imagining falling asleep in Caris' arms, which isn't meaningfully more vulnerable than being pinned to the bed and fucked - all the alarms and protections are still in place - but would have felt like it.) 

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Caris bows, and says "I'll look forward to it," and departs.

 

He is...cautiously optimistic. He's sure the Emperor will think about refusing him and putting him to work anyway but it wouldn't work all that well and they both know it. And...he's not getting the sense that the Emperor wants to refuse him, just that he thinks he's supposed to.

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When something goes wrong and a top advisor of the emperor mysteriously dies in the Eastern Empire, the Office of Inquiry is alerted, and an investigation is called for.

They already know what the investigation will produce; the conclusion is already theirs. The gods did it. It is possible that they did it via fanatical assassins, or via corrupt government officials, or via a ridiculous and implausible chain of events that could not be stopped except in theory. Either way: The gods did it. Ultimately, all paths end in that one conclusion; this is a failure analysis, not a murder mystery, and so the Office of Inquiry considers it. The bottom line is already written, and all that remains is the details, for those tell the Empire what to do better next time.

(The Office of Inquiry has born many names in the past, and will in the future - 'agents in things', 'the inspectors of the grain department', 'the extraordinary commission'. Mysteriously, whenever these are found to be corrupt and dissolved, a new one will spring up worked by most of the same men, doing the same duties. It's quite odd, how such a despised institution is so immortal. One might, perhaps, wonder if there was some figure in the Eastern Empire who always wanted to be able to thwart the gods at every turn - or, perhaps, if some even older and less human puppetmaster might want there to be an institution in the Eastern Empire, ready to point fingers at whoever needed to be disposed of...)

And so Mage-Inquisitor Kastil, top agent of the Office, has arrived at a collapsed mine near the northwest border of the empire, compulsion-bound soldiers and mages sweeping in his train. (He cast the compulsions, because if he let someone else do it they might have been subverted by the gods; none of the soldiers have made it out of his mage-sight except Darmas and Cedren, both of whom are watched by Lyentha and Cestin who are within his sight and who he can clearly see if any compulsions on them were invoked, changed, or altered...) His hair is white because a mage's hair is white, but his face is still young except where the lines of exhaustion have scarred it. He is not, particularly, thinking about things, or to be more accurate the main thing he is thinking about is that of course Altarrin should have taken more precautions, who would the gods want to kill more, he is going to find out what tools they used and break them until nothing remains. He does not think this will discourage the gods, per se; one cannot discourage the gods, who mean to destroy the empire as the sole agent capable of threatening their power. But he will investigate, nonetheless.

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The region of Isk where Altarrin's mine was placed is in the tundra, the kind where meltwater pools and mosses and ground-plants flower during a brief summer, but the underlying permafrost never thaws. It's not quite perfectly flat; there are ponds and hillocks and even low, flattened rolling hills, but there are no trees. Nothing to break the northern horizon, all the way to the Icepack sea, where icebergs drift past even at the height of summer, when the sun processes around the horizon more than it exactly rises and sets, and for a time there is no night at all. 

The summer is over - there's frost at night already, and rimes of ice on the pools, despite the fact that further south the harvest has yet to arrive. It's not yet winter, those endless months of darkness, but they days are quickly shortening, and the wind at night is bitter. 

 

The mine is not much inconvenienced by the weather. It was built in stages, starting with an open excavated pit, carved out the sod well below the permafrost line and all the way down to bedrock, drained and sealed and then neatly sheltered from the elements by a permanent weather-barrier; all further work was done once that was in place. The dome covers the small on-site administrative office in a blocky sod-and-brick building, some utilitarian roofed but open-sided storage shacks, some equipment for ore-sorting and processing before the semi-purified results are Gated to a centralized metallurgy facility (based somewhere less miserably cold). There is, or rather was, an additional gazebo-like shelter over the primary mine-shaft, which drives down through five hundred feet of bedrock. (Though the deepest parts don't, yet, have any side tunnels.) The sleeping quarters for the mine staff, about fifty people (eight mages) were also underground, though not dug in nearly as deeply. 

From underground, it's easier to use detection spells to hone the initial survey results, and make further decisions on which ways to excavate. Even barely a month in, there were over a thousand feet of reinforced tunnels, measured horizontally. (Thirty deaths; node-energy is sparse up here, and thirty is actually somewhat below the standard allocation for a project of this scale. When and where to use blood-power was a call made by the administrative project manager and the lead mage-engineer, according to centuries-old protocols.) 

The area has a very productive seam of iron, probably the main finding that caused the Empire's surveyors to mark it down as a potential future site – but it does also have an area with rich ore deposits of a new metal, one that apparently has magical properties that interact with a rare Wild Gift. 

 

That section is where things went wrong. 

It doesn't look awful, from the outside. The artifact powering the permanent weather-barrier is down; there appears to be a temporary mage-barrier replacing it, which is not very successfully keeping in the heat; there's a barrel of water outside the administrative building, whether for drinking or washing is hard to tell, and it has a skin of ice.  

 

Documentation - copied to offsite - includes a rash of accidents dating back a week. Weird accidents, both of the 'could well be sabotage' kind, and the kind that definitely couldn't have been done on purpose but are still suspicious and implausible. Debriefs and questioning the mine workers and swapping around shift schedules to break up a possible conspiracy all failed to halt the pattern.

Altarrin, for some reason, traveled north in person - one communication-spell-relay report claims that he mentioned casually it was 'on his way', but this makes less than total sense given that his previous assignment was in the far south, and Gate-cost scales with distance, albeit less so when one is using the permanent Gate-network and, like the Archmage-General, has the authorization level to go from any point direct to any other point if both are on the main network, rather than needing to route through a centralized nexus (staffed by mages to check compulsions and cargo or baggage, and with randomly-determined Thoughtsenser coverage.) 

Altarrin looked at personnel records, and asked for three particular staff to be detained and questioned, on suspicion of being agents for Vkandis. He did not have a Thoughtsenser with him, at the time, but delegated the task to a mage who should have been more than capable of it, and didn't venture into the mine itself to inspect the scene until it (should have been) entirely evacuated. The time would have been two candlemarks before noon – not long after dawn, on these short days.

 

There is a gap in their records of several candlemarks, when Altarrin's mage-secretary was only passing occasional and un-detailed status reports; the communication spell is tiring from deep underground. They have no particular indication that something was going wrong, but they don't have much information at all. 

At twelve minutes past noon, a routine guard-sweep found the mage sent to interrogate the prisoners unconscious, and both his clerk and the prisoners themselves missing.

A message was passed urgently to Altarrin's mage-secretary, who at sixteen minutes past noon provided a report that - seems to have gotten rather garbled in the transcription. It seems like there was...maybe a problem...? The secretary requested "non-urgent backup" and a Healer. What exactly the problem was, did not make it into the record. 

"Non-urgent" or not, the mine administrative manager reacted quickly; the site on-call Healer was sent down immediately along with the rest of Altarrin's personally-loyal mages. 

No further reports would be received from Altarrin or his crew. 

 

 

At twenty-one minutes past noon, there was a violent underground explosion - maybe a Final Strike, maybe an artifact, maybe not magical at all and just the result of one of those underground gas-pockets, though the surveyors hadn't suspected one. Impossible to tell without going underground to inspect the ruins for a close-up magical signature. 

The casualties, once tallied up, were actually less bad than feared. Altarrin, obviously. The assistant mage-engineer who had gone down to show Altarrin some of the accident sites, Altarrin's secretary and the mage-engineer's clerk. Five of Altarrin's mage-entourage. The Healer, unfortunately. But everyone else was on the surface, or under guard in the separately-dug-out barracks, and injuries were relatively minor. 

The blast took out the weather-barrier dome and mage-lighting, which was not ideal for coordinating a response, and damaged the Gate; it was ten minutes before the lead mage-engineer could repair it enough to send someone out with a report and an urgent request for a replacement Healer please. 

The site was too hot to check for survivors (or, more realistically, count the bodies), and by then the mine leadership had already received instructions to not touch anything, hold all mine personnel in their barracks under political prisoner-grade compulsions, and wait for the experts to come untangle this mess. 

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Mage-Inquisitor Kastil hates mysteries. Someone who did not know his profession might think this odd, that an investigator hates mysteries; anyone in the Office of Inquiry, who had been in the Office of Inquiry for long enough, would nod, and take another pull at their glass, and say, "Gods."

The thing an amateur would take a good hard look at, for something strange and mysterious and wrong, would be when Altarrin made his arrests and everything went to shit. Then a crisis occurred for him to investigate deep underground, and then they sprung their trap. (Or so he thinks. He'll know more after he's interrogated everyone under compulsions.)

The thing someone less amateur would take a good hard look at would when the workers started acting strange; influence from Vkandis, no doubt, worshipped across the border in Iftel. (Mage-Inquisitor Kastil keeps sending requests for the emperor to conquer the bloody place, and they keep being rejected with some kind of mumbled magical explanation for why they can't. Gods.)

The place he would like to take a good hard look at is why in all the hells Altarrin cared about this mine. Recent expansions to investigate a new metal with valuable products useful for a rare wild gift, his ass.

The first step is, of course, to place everyone still at the mine under arrest on generalized suspicion, root out the local villages with Compulsions for anyone hiding among them who might be a cultist of Vkandis or an escapee from the mine, and begin the procedure of getting everyone's statements about everything written down properly so they can be compared, in triplicate, all copies compared with each other by people under his compulsions which he can check and monitor and confirm are still his afterwards.

But once he's gotten everyone to sit still for a moment, he'll want to place a focus for pastwatching so he can see exactly what happened with Altarrin's death.

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The arrests go smoothly - almost everyone is at least slightly injured and very shaken, and the mages up here, aside from Altarrin's surviving mages, are not especially elite or combat-trained, unlike Kastil's. 

 

Three of Altarrin's mages are alive, and the clerk. The one who failed to stop the suspected cultists of Vkandis from escaping is semi-conscious - it looks like drugs, rather than injuries - and the other two are fully cooperative. There is nothing wrong with their compulsions, and when interrogated, their stories match. No, they're not sure why Altarrin made this trip himself, but it's not his first time visiting the mine in person; he's been very involved. A secret project, they think? They're not very senior and weren't cleared to know any details, and it's Altarrin, you don't ask. 

They both, with enough prompting, mention having maybe been slightly worried - not about specific events, but that Altarrin has been pushing himself intensely hard. A rumor from a servant in Stormhaven said he was barely sleeping at all, though he seemed functional enough. He ended up defusing a situation down there with a nest of their local godbotherers, and he did it very neatly, no casualties at all on the Empire's side, but he might have picked up some minor injuries? 

 

The mine workers are - not the cream of the crop. A number of them are convicts (of non-capital crimes, obviously, and not theft because you don't put thieves in a remote mine with a skeleton staff; many of them were involved in brawls or assaults that didn't cause deaths, one tried to con his way into marrying a noble lady with a falsified noble backstory.) They were vetted more carefully than usual, if anything, and under more compulsions. They only reason they can think of why Altarrin singled out the three missing personnel is that they were Isk locals, but they weren't the only Isk locals, and the other four can't think why Altarrin would have found them any more suspicious. 

 

 

The five largest towns in Isk come back clear, but it's going to take a while to hear back on searching all of the tiny hunting-villages for Vkandis worshippers. The locals do seem, overall, perhaps more sympathetic to Iftelis as nationality than one would prefer, even if they vehemently deny affiliation with the god. Iftel sends more merchants this way than the Empire proper, and sells them goods at fair prices. 

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Several candlemarks earlier: 

 

The pastwatching spell is lossy, between the time interval and the fact that a lot of magic was used here. The Mage-Inquisitor can get sound, and even mage-sight, but it's blurry and many exact words are hard to catch.

Altarrin, who certainly shows no visible sign of being tired or injured at this point, strides through the mine, a haze of magical protections glimmering around him; it's hard to get exact details via the spell, but really doesn't look like he skimped. He's also wearing - some sort of odd, very bright artifact on his head, not a talisman against Thoughtsensing, something else. 

He dictates out loud to his mage-secretary, who takes notes. If Kastil is good enough with the spell, he might be able to get some of the content. None of it is very surprising; Altarrin is mostly seconding the conclusions found in the original incident reports, and then checking the staffing roster and assignments for the three names he singled out. 

(He's noting a correlation, but not one without exceptions - on multiple occasions he stops and frowns for a while, clearly trying to square how one of them could possibly have been involved. ...He does at some point also start checking for the remaining Iskan natives, but doesn't seem to find any correlation there at all.) 

 

 

Some minutes before the prisoner escape, Kastil can follow Altarrin to the very deepest section of the mine, the most recent area opened up for "spellsilver" production. (It's out of range of the surface, at least for a mage of Master-potential Gift like his secretary, though the secretary may have still been able to receive alerts.) 

It must be warm down there; at three minutes past noon, Altarrin sheds his jacket and folds it over his arm. 

(It's visible, just barely, that one or more of his layers of shielding clings to the jacket, not his body directly. He's still very well protected, though, he should be impossible to take down with anything short of a Final Strike. An Adept's Final Strike.) 

 

- at eight minutes past the hour, he seems to have trouble articulating a question, and then stumbles into a wall. His mage-secretary is instantly at his side, steadying him, saying something to him that's mostly lost in the blur, but part of Altarrin's response ("- short of breath - dizzy -") is audible once the Mage-Inquisitor replays the moment four times in a row. 

(Twelve minutes past the hour, the moment when the message was passed to the mage-secretary, comes and goes. The mage-secretary - maybe stops to "listen" to something? But he and the engineer are both maintaining high levels of situational awareness, scanning around them for any threat, it could just be that. He doesn't react with the visible alarm one might expect, and does not seem to go on to warn Altarrin.) 

They seem to react efficiently but with appropriate levels of concern. The chief mage-engineer puts his own shields on Altarrin and an air-purifying barrier around all of them, and the secretary hustles out with Altarrin leaning on him but still, apparently, alert and able to answer questions. They get him a level up, seal the way behind them, the secretary eases him to sit down and gets him water and then - probably that's the magical signature of a communication-spell, overpowered to reach the surface? 

(Sixteen minutes past the hour.) 

 

It takes some time for the Healer to reach them, not until nineteen or twenty minutes past noon, scarcely a minute before the explosion they know is coming. The guards set a perimeter and raise shields. (It really seems like they're taking a super reasonable quantity of precautions aside from, you know, failing to veto Altarrin going down into the mine personally in the first place.) 

The Healer kneels at Altarrin's side. Urges him to drink more water. Altarrin - maybe shakes his head when asked if he hasn't been sleeping? 

 

If Mage-Inquisitor Kastil has the spell-focus "pointed" at Altarrin for this moment, the fire is going to come from behind. 

It all happens very fast. It's - magical, it looks like, either a Final Strike by a very weak mage or a blood-magic-boosted fireball by an exceptionally powerful one; they don't look different from this vantage, not with the level of fidelity the spell offers. 

The mage-guards almost certainly die instantly. It's impossible to see what's going on except with the hazy ghost of mage-sight as conveyed forward from the past, which shows spells shattering and auras winking out. But Altarrin is at the center of all of the shields, and whatever's wrong with him, he reacts instantly and has time to - start to raise a Gate? Yeah, that's a Gate-signature. A threshold taking shape, even, horizontal under him so he'll fall through, but - not, quite, there yet, and it's visibly sloppy, he really must be feeling ill. 

 

 

 

- a second, much larger fireball engulfs him from behind, and the pastwatching spell whites out, and when it fades back in there is pitch blackness and unformed magical residue, though not even that much of it - like it was mostly a non-magical fireball - and mostly rock without a lot of air pockets, and no sign of shields or mage-auras at all. Bodies might be visible if they had a light, but there might not be any recognizable remains either. 

(In any case, they can't check the section of tunnel yet in person, only magically. For one, it's mostly collapsed, and two, it's unstable and likely to collapse more if they try to dig out the debris at this stage.) 

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Once they've interrogated the locals, they can release them or pass them to the local authorities, as is appropriate; he can send out bulletins to local authorities for the arrest of the three missing workers Alive And Definitely Not Dead as suspects in a treason case, and although the latest purge of the local villagers for Vkandis cults is overdue, he doesn't have the manpower for it and it's the job of the Ministry of Cults anyway; he'll send a formal request for them to handle this, while his men focus on investigatory divinations here at the site. Until the search is complete, the focus is Altarrin. Altarrin, who was extremely important. Altarrin, who was involved in something - 

He'll send back for a report on just what he was up to; not since the mine opened, since three months before the mine opened. What changes were there in his routine? When did he open it, why did he care? Who was he feuding with, who was new in his circle, what was he thinking to come here and investigate in person?

His death was much less strange. Gate-striking is not, in fact, that unusual a technique in the Eastern Empire. As assassination techniques go, having some poor untrained fool below Master class laden with compulsions, glutted with blood magic, drugged to keep him from resisting the compulsions, and then told to Final Strike his overcharged corpse on top of someone you dislike is rather difficult to block. Two gate-strikes on top of someone having a heart attack (he wasn't that old, but if he was pushing himself - there's only so far healing can help you, Altarrin - and there's bad air in mines, but that kind of explosive gas would not have been normal - he'll have an investigation to see if mine safety protocols were falsified, but if they are or not, he knows it was the gods responsible.)

The gods. Always, the gods. They arranged for him to open the mine, lured him into the area tightly under Vkandis's influence, and then - Altarrin had rivals, everyone important has rivals. Maybe Iftel did it, maybe cultists of Vkandis, maybe an imperial official. 

His next major targets for investigation are Altarrin, the communications-spell to the surface (did Altarrin spot it? Did any of the mages there cast it, or was it someone elsewhere? Why didn't they make it all the way back up to the surface? What are Altarrin's mages for?) and more in-depth pastwatching, up on the surface.

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Surface pastwatching! He's not going to be able to go far back enough to catch sabotage or suspected forgery of documentation - the spell has a hard time covering as long as a day and a night even when there wasn't a lot of magical and just generally violent interference - but he can go back far enough to see Altarrin rising for the morning. 

...maybe? 

.......okay he's been awake since only two and a half candlemarks after midnight, he really isn't getting much sleep. He is instead writing in cipher, and pacing, and mending one of his artifacts, and going outside in the below-freezing air to cast detection spells, and sitting down apparently deep in thought. 

 

Other than that, the mine is quiet. Altarrin arrived late last night. (Actually, he has the Gate-records to cross-compare, Altarrin got in at half a candlemark to midnight and must have spent a while giving orders to empty the mine and arrest the Isk suspects. He can only have slept, like, two candlemarks.) But the mine was fully evacuated of the night shift workers. Altarrin also ordered the entrance to the mine-shaft guarded. As of a candlemark after midnight, almost twelve candlemarks before the incident, they have written documentation that everyone on site was accounted for, and no one entered unauthorized. 

The three Iskan natives were under guard. The other mine personnel weren't; they were off work, and asked politely to stay in their barracks, but they weren't  individually being watched, and it's dark - you can't project mage-lights into pastwatching - and his "visibility" on the relatively dim life-force auras of un-Gifted or very very weakly mage-gifted men is not great. It would take him twelve candlemarks to individually track every person. 

 

If he focuses on the workers under arrest, though, things get interesting....

 

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Ten minutes before noon.

 

The mage-guard has been on duty for eleven candlemarks, and may not have slept before that either since they apparently came straight here from Stormhaven. He's yawning, glancing around, clearly eager for his replacement. The clerk is intently reviewing mine-records and making notes. The workers under guard are bound, but not very tightly, the compulsions and eyes on them are doing most of the work. Having skimmed the past while, the guard-rotation for patrolling past this area is every half-hour; clearly Altarrin's other people basically trust their colleague. 

His face lights up, and then the pastwatching spell informs Kastil that the Healer - the same Healer he saw approach Altarrin - is walking up to him. She sidles up to him. He makes an embarrassed hand gesture. Norma, I'm on duty. She shakes her head, apologetic but not very. When are you off? S'posed to be noon but I bet you anything the bugger will be late, he says back. 

Norma leans in to peck him on the cheek, which he seems to accept. 

 

- he sags to the ground. The pastwatching can't get any more detail on whether Norma used Healing on him (and he wasn't shielded, but most people aren't as paranoid as Kastil or Altarrin, and don't) or if she stabbed him with a poisoned pin, or had a kerchief soaked in one of those drug-mixes that works when inhaled (they're rare and expensive and come from the far south but it's not the first assassination he's seen with one.) 

Though she doesn't proceed to kill the man. She looks apologetic, and eases him to the ground, not too uncomfortably. 

The clerk, watching, does nothing. 

The Healer gives him a brief glance. Money's where I promised. Take him. And she unties one of the men. He outranks you, Aster, he's your guard, you listen to him. 

(Even in the haziness of pastwatching, it is at this point noticeable that they share a certain family resemblance.) 

Come with me, the clerk says, and it seems like even the prisoner-compulsions allow this. 

You're not coming? Aster mouths at her. No. I'm covering your tracks. 

Aster and Altarrin's clerk, who is apparently not loyal to Altarrin, hurry away and vanish behind a building. The Healer stays with the remaining two men, bound and compulsioned. She looks - thoughtful, and determined. 

It is about three minutes before noon. 

One of the prisoners looks baffled and terrified; one of them is meeting her eyes with a level albeit half-glazed expression. 

Well, she says to that one. Are you with me? - We'll have to take care of him, somehow. 

The tied prisoner jerks his chin in - a direction. Maybe the direction of the mine-shaft. But he looks anguished. 

It does serve the Empire, the Healer says. I promise. I outrank you, and I'm telling you this is your duty. You trust me, right? ...I'll knock him out, it's - a little kinder. 

Apparently the prisoner does trust her. She unbinds him, and he picks up the remaining unconscious man, and - heads for the mineshaft. 

(The look in his eyes is a familiar one.) 

 

Apparently dropping someone five hundred feet down a mine-shaft will a) go pretty much unnoticed, and b) allow the dropper, if he's already below the lip and blocked by a lot of stone, to collect at least some of the blood-power. He does not appear to be very efficient at it. He's clearly done it before. 

 

The Healer hurries off. She's nowhere nearby when the unconscious mage-guard and missing prisoners are discovered. 

 

She does look very surprised, and confused and kind of worried, when - seventeen minutes past the hour - someone runs up to her with what's presumably an urgent request to attend the Archmage-General down in the mine. 

But she goes. 

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Ah, the old 'healer is actually an assassin' dodge.

... No, she's - not. She's... rescuing one of her friends... with the help of the clerk, who she bribed or wants them to believe she bribed...

(Or the conversations were all deliberately faked because they know about past-watching. There are so many possibilities.)

And the prisoner who dropped him is a fourth-rate mage who made a dying blow against Altarrin, after getting around his compulsions somehow. (Everyone overrelies on the standard compulsions, but them being standard means there's standard ways around them. Kastil's are tighter.) That explains one but not both of the fireballs; the other - could have been a gas pocket, could have been a separate assassination attempt by the cult of Vkandis or an unrelated entity, on the god's coordination.

All this follows very neatly and clearly. There is, quite clearly, a conspiracy; the Office of Inquiry will root it out, with the help of the Ministry of Cults (who he wishes to send a more insistent message than the one he earlier sent), and this will take care of it. He'll cancel the WANTED bulletin for the dead prisoner (after sending two of his other mages, randomly selected, to make sure he's dead while watching each other's compulsions), and put up one for the clerk; probably the one who had the blood-magic died in a final strike but possibly that was a mundane gate-strike and the blood magic was unrelated... there will be a lot of work, unraveling this, and he can put in the hours.

Mage-Inquisitor Kastil hates his job. But it's not like anyone else would be better at it.

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That's when the report from the capital arrives. 

Altarrin was managing the pacification in the south, with frequent trips down there, but he was in the capital six weeks ago when some kind of alarm triggered in his quarters. His personally loyal mages responded, and found an attractive young woman wearing several unique magic artifacts. Altarrin, several of those mages corroborate, had her arrested, placed under political-prisoner compulsions, and questioned. Some people recall he had a specialist brought in to speak with her about metallurgy; the specialist is being tracked down.

The following night, he had her cleaned up and brought to him. She spent the night in his chambers. In the early hours of the morning he communicated to his staff that he had Gated out with her to address some emergency up north.

He returned with her a few hours later. She'd been given a Thoughtsensing talisman.

The rumor that she has a Wild Gift useful for magic artifact making is widely-repeated, and traceable back to a mage-guard who says he provided security for some testing of her abilities. Altarrin hasn't said anything about it, but shortly after her arrival he pressed the Emperor to open the 'spellsilver' mine. She's rumored to be from some southern city-state, or maybe the regions Altarrin has been visiting for pacification. She is credited for the making of some magical headbands which lots of people around court are wearing; they enhance the mind of the wearer.

Altarrin has lately been spending more and more of his time in the south, as more complications cropped up. His girl made a bit of a stir at court, of first, but not a long-lasting one; she rarely leaves Altarrin's chambers (guarded when she does) except to go to her shielded workroom, and mostly associates with Altarrin's loyal people and especially his past girls.

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He would not, in fact, have thought Altarrin would fall for that.

Given a Thoughtsensing talisman.

Gods damn it.

'Enhance the mind'. Again: 

Godsdamnit!

Please tell him the Emperor is not wearing one of these magical headbands?

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The Emperor has one and has been seen wearing it on some occasions!

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Right.

Right then.

He's going to appoint one of his less distrusted lower-ranking colleagues to finish up the investigation into the Cult of Vkandis and the assassination attempt. Here's all the this-related notes, here's my full report from the pastwatchings... 

And now Mage-Inquisitor Kastil would like to know everything that there is to be known about Altarrin's new young woman, without it leaking to her that he's investigating. He would like this very, very much.

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A healer who treated the girl - Carissa, her name is apparently Carissa - when she first arrived said that she had a strange, extraordinarily bright life-force, and was unusually difficult to put to sleep when Altarrin ordered that done so he could do some more compulsions.

A servant says that her dinnertime conversations with Altarrin were reliably kind of dull - yes, it occurred to her that that was probably deliberate by both of them - she did seem perfectly cheerful and fond of him -

Another former girl of Altarrin's talked to her at a party. She was worried Altarrin would get bored, thinking about what she wanted next. Joked about asking Altarrin to set her up with the Emperor. She could tell it was a joke because Carissa didn't seem disappointed to learn the Emperor was gay and also because, come on, that's obviously a joke. 

She's from Aksell.

She claimed to be from Aksell but a couple people who knew things about Aksell weren't totally convinced. 

 

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In terms of discreet investigations, you can get a pretty long way via having the rights of a Mage-Inquisitor to enter locked records rooms alone and look at whatever you want. A lot of things get written down, in the Empire - scrying reports, Thoughtsensing checks, meeting-schedules, copies of all non-top-secret mail sent via the court messengers, bonus time for wage adjustments when some staff - say, the court Healers - are called to an emergency.

Most of this is never reviewed by a skeptical eye, because where would you even start - and much of this situation has been higher secrecy, skipping the normal record-keeping channels - but sometimes you can read between the lines. 

The day that the girl arrived - Carissa, she's called - Altarrin urgently summoned some Healers. The report on what they did is redacted - all they have is rumors - but it is documented that a shielded infimary room was requisitioned and apparently one of the Healers remained on duty for - quite a long stretch, maybe overnight. During this period, Altarrin cancelled all of his meetings and - on several routine checks by his own guards, they do them not out of suspicion about Altarrin but to maintain his security - wasn't scryable. Which could mean he was in his Work Room or his bedroom, they thought nothing of it at the time, but. 

Altarrin requested some history books and a different secure meeting-room, presumably for his girl though she didn't happen to be scried during that time. He arranged for a metallurgy-expert mage-engineer to meet with her; the minutes for the meeting are redacted, but said mage immediately had all of his other work reassigned. A note with the officer he was reporting to said that he 'wished Altarrin would be less high-handed' but that his employee seemed 'happy'. 

Then Altarrin summoned her to his rooms with a stop via the bathhouse, and - according to several scrying points, he had at this point attracted attention - had a rather innocuous and inane conversation with her and gave her a lot of wine before hauling her to his unscryable shielded room - at which point aforementioned events happened, and the girl came back from the "trip to the north" with a Thoughtsensing talisman. The breakfast conversation was so boring that none of the servants or scrying mages really reacted to this, at the time. 

Altarrin inexplicably assigned Ketar, a junior Thoughtsenser, to come - not even read the girl's mind - to come talk about Gift stuff with her? Which is bizarre because Ellitrea, a much more experienced court Thoughtsenser, reports to him directly and would surely have been more qualified. Merda, a clerk with a reputation for working for anyone she can wrangle and a long-ago history as one of Altarrin's women herself, was a notetaker.

(Other gossip, says that at some point she had an altercation with Carissa, at which point Carissa stormed out of the room in tears, and then Ketar (and Merda) followed her. Ketar was only in there and unscryable briefly; Merda, for like an hour; that part is in the standard security-report, in Altarrin's private records that no one else has the right to access. This might normally be harder to do discreetly, but Altarrin is dead and his staff are upset and distracted.) 

 

Altarrin kept his new woman close to his chest, especially in the first couple of weeks. It's like he was trying to minimize the attention and gossip. At some point, he did start inviting people over, or bringing her to small events, and eventually loosened his hold and sent her off to attend court parties, which is the source of some more of the gossip, including a joking conversation about seducing the Emperor. 

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Mage-Inquisitor Kastil is so, so tired.

It is, in fact, possible that Carissa was a key resource of Altarrin's for a plot genuinely intended to serve the Empire. This is a possibility. It is a reasonable possibility. It is not out of the question.

But it's really much more likely that she and her conspiracy (masterminded by - Who Else? The Gods -) are trying to take over the Eastern Empire, and that Altarrin was suborned the first night. There are ways of affecting the mind that are invisible to compulsions, routing around them completely; this the Office of Inquiry knows, from long experience and careful records.

He'll monitor Merda, where he knows that Carissa is elsewhere, safely, and from a distance. And he'll send a message inviting Ellitrea to come north, officially still about Altarrin's supposed death in the mines, to be interviewed for - 'context'.

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She goes. Her ordinary schedule is thrown into disarray anyway. She asks Ketar to let Merda and Caris/Carissa know, when it's convenient, but mostly as a courtesy notice. She doesn't know how long it's been but she's confident the site is secured, they wouldn't summon her there earlier. 

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....Ketar will do that. 

 

Honestly, he's kind of miserable right now! He realizes that not everything important is destroyed, but it's - the first time a really, actually bad thing has happened to someone he knew. Someone he was kind of terrified of, in this case, but - someone decent, even Merda of all people was willing to admit to that. He feels like he's wandering through a haze. 

It's evening. How has it possibly been less than two days. 

...He'll let Caris know right away, via Mindspeech, since he's pretty sure Caris has another date with the Emperor tonight and might soon end up in a bedroom shielded against Thoughtsensing. He'll alert Merda when they have their scheduled Mindspeech check-in tomorrow morning. 

(He aaaaawkwardly does nooooot mention that he read Caris' mind while he was having sex. How do you even bring that up.) 

 

It's clear in his mindvoice that he's distracted and - pretty devastated, actually. 

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Caris is busy preparing for his date with the Emperor but he'll try to sound appropriately comforting. :Thanks for letting me know. And I'm so sorry that it happened like this.:

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:I wonder what happened? ...I mean, I think we're all pretty sure it was Vkandis, but I'm curious how, he's - so careful: Mental sigh. :I guess it doesn't really matter: 

He wants to tell him to have a good date but that's probably also super awkward and weird so he doesn't. 

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And the Emperor will be there at the scheduled time! 

He looks like someone who did not sleep amazingly well, but other than that, he's clearly had a less hectic day; he's freshly bathed and well-groomed and wearing a tunic in blues and deep purples with gold embroidery which is very flattering on him. He's tense, but - more in a way that looks like he would be really eager for a way to release that tension, as opposed to just tired and sad. 

- he's going to say yes, to Caris' proposition, and some responsible part of him really wishes he could have run the idea by Altarrin - not whether it was good idea to work with Caris, obviously it is, but whether it's a good idea to also sleep with him. But he's going to do it, and he has butterflies in his stomach which is really utterly ridiculous and undignified of him. 

He lets his - lover? boyfriend? - in. 

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 He's trying to be much more careful with the transitions, now that Caris is presumably being spied on a bunch, so he goes invisible and gaseous to slip out of Carissa's workroom, and sneaks halfway around the palace to find a shielded place to become Caris and go meet the Emperor. He's a minute late. It's only a tiny bit to make a statement. 

 

 

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"Your Majesty."

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Head-duck. Shy smile. "I hope you don't plan to keep calling me that all night. ...Come in. Have you eaten - could I get you anything to drink -?"

(Aaaaugh as usual he has been perfectly in control in all of his actual Emperor-type interactions - though the Splendor headband helps, and no wonder, it's alien magic from another world - but now that he's trying to be flirty it feels like he's not in control of anything anymore.) 

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"I would like a fancy drink, but know nothing of the local ones." He, for his part, looks perfectly at ease. 

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Of course he does. It's so hot.

The Emperor will usher them to his private dining room, the one with a gorgeous mahogany bar and lots of options for fancy drinks. It turns out the Emperor has quite a lot of fancy drink opinions. It also turns out that serving Caris is an enormous turn-on and this is...perhaps slightly noticeable. He's not trying incredibly hard to hide it, although he will probably literally blush if Caris notices or makes a comment. 

(It's very awkward that they can't just - talk openly - about their upcoming plans, but it'll look at least slightly weird and abrupt to his security people if he heads straight to his bedroom, and also he is, in fact, really tense, and hoping he'll become a bit less so.) 

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He's perfectly happy to hang out here where the Emperor's security can witness him giving the Emperor drink orders. That's....a lot of gossip that's going to result, definitely, but gossip is much less dangerous when you have the Emperor and also can discard this identity at any moment. 

He's not going to comment on the Emperor enjoying himself but he's definitely going to visibly notice.

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Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah okay maybe a serious downside of this particular fling is that he isn't just aroused he has feelings. Feelings are the worst idea when you're Emperor. 

(Altarrin wouldn't want him to– actually he has no idea what Altarrin would advise, here, he's realizing that his Altarrin-model is seriously incomplete and that's really terrible - he's not letting himself look at the fact that it might be terrible for anything other than instrumental reasons -) 

 

He will be as charming as he can manage - while being sweet and harmless and pretty and caring only about pleasing his Caris - and all the more confusing feelings that aren't just being incredibly aroused can go in a mental box over there and he kind of feels like most of him isn't in his body, but enough of him is to be enjoying it. He can serve Caris a few drinks and try to give hints but not quite bring himself to take the lead on retiring to the bedroom. 

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Oh, he's on that. They've given the staff more than enough to gossip about. He'll carry the Emperor over before he's even finished the fancy drinks. 

 

"I seem to recall I had a proposition for you to consider," he says, once they're in private.

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His breath catches. 

"Yes. I -" why is it so hard to speak, his face is hot, his entire body is hot, "- I accept." A nervous half-laugh. "I don't - know if I'll regret it. But I hope not, and I - you didn't leave me with much incentivize to say no." 

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"Well, I don't think you'll regret it, I don't see how that'd suit my goals at all. Do you want to hear what I plan to do with this partnership of ours, or shall I surprise you along the way?"

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Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah. 

"I - however you want to play it, my–" He makes a slightly frustrated noise. "I want - it feels like it'd be right to call you - something, a title, I just don't know what." 

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Raised eyebrow. "Well, you could give me a title. Lord of Imperial Mood Management. There you go."

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Head duck. (INTERNAL SCREAMING no that goes in the box. This is only the hot kind of scary.) 

"Yes. My lord." 

- this would probably go much better if he could ask for things but Altarrin is dead and nothing is okay and he cannot quite get himself entirely into a sexy mood. On the bright side, he's fairly sure Caris can do it to him whether or not he likes it, and that thought is definitely the hot kind of scary. 

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She's not entirely sure she's parsing that right, but - "Hey. You're mine, so I'm going to take good care of you, and that means I will only tolerate so much moping about duty, among other things. It doesn't mean you need to do anything differently; when I want something different, I'll arrange it. You'll know what I want because it's the thing that will happen. Do you understand?"

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He takes a deep, slightly shaky breath. 

 

“I - think so. It can’t— outside here,” vague hand gesture, “I do have - power. Duty, I guess, if you want to call it that, it’s still - real, and sometimes it’s what will be on my mind.” Based on his tone, this is not completely obvious to him. “But here - yes, I’ll be yours, and you can do whatever you want with me, and it’s - I want that. I never - even realized how badly. And if you want me not to, um, mope, then,” headduck, “I’ll do my best.”

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"You will try your best for me," he says warmly. "I appreciate that about you. And I won't, actually, stand in the way of your duties. I want your empire to be safe, I want it to prosper, I want to kill the gods who killed Altarrin and make him proud of us. - but right now I want you to forget all that, and strip for me."

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Eeeeeeeeeee~

The Emperor of the Eastern Empire will strip for his beautiful terrifying sex-changing wizard boyfriend from another world, and try very earnestly to be good.

He still spends kind of a lot of it slightly having a panic attack, or feeling like he’s watching himself from a great distance, but it’s actually - easier, when he mostly has to worry about whether Caris is happy and pleased.

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Ellitrea has a few things to wrap up, and they didn’t say in the message it was urgent. (She maybe, perhaps, is slightly putting it off because talking about Altarrin - seeing the place where he died - is going to hurt.)

She takes the Gate-network over via two nexus points, a little after sunset, carrying some of the records she’s been summarizing in order to help with the handover to Altarrin’s eventual replacement.

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The site has clearly been secured; the agents managing it look perfectly normal, the sort of investigators you'd expect for this sort of business. They're happy to take Ellitrea's notes - just to put them somewhere safe while she talks to the person managing the investigation.

(She is not supposed to do Thoughtsensing. 'You do not read the mind of the people asking you questions' is just a sort of basic thing, here; if she does, she will be politely told to stop.)

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Of course. Ellitrea is a little bleary - it's been a long day, and yesterday was a longer day - but she's pleased they're being efficient, and will try to be efficient on her side of things. She thanks them for their work. 

(Everyone is predictably angry and wants answers, and Ellitrea thinks she actually might be more angry than that, because most people have no idea just how many problems Altarrin could have solved, with the resources and the plan that clearly got the gods to escalate even further against him. 

She's also quietly frustrated with him for not delegating the mine troubleshooting - it's not like he was doing it on the Emperor's orders - and staying safe. They needed him.) 

 

She will follow directions very cooperatively to wherever they want to question her. She's not intending to lie, certainly - you just don't like to the Office of Inquiry, and besides she wants their investigation to succeed - but she's not planning to instantly volunteer everything. Who knows how many of Altarrin's secrets are actually relevant. 

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And Mage-Inquisitor Kastil will not, in fact, be in the room with Ellitrea, because he doesn't know just how contagious Carissa's powers are. One of his loyal subordinates, Mage-Inquisitor Bastrea (the short form of the titles not being distinguishable is an advantage; it means every agent of the Office of Inquiry has the full reputation of the whole office), will be; they have a private, secure version of the communications-spell used only in the Office, and so she can speak for him.

She'll offer Ellitrea a seat, offer her a drink, commiserate with her about how horrible it is Altarrin died ("He was a great man",) and then while various of Kastil's other agents go through all the documents Ellitrea brought, Bastrea will start asking what, exactly, happened in the period before Altarrin's death.

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(The documents Ellitrea brought are...really boring, for the most part? 80% of Ellitrea's normal workload is scheduling loyalty checks and doing interrogations as needed; there are of course standard policies, but every Archmage-General has their own preferred way of doing things, and she's hoping to summarize Altarrin's style so she can run its pros and cons by the new Archmage-General, and if he disagrees, at least be able to give clearer instructions to the junior Thoughtsensers she'll end up training. Or a handover to her replacement, if Altarrin's replacement wants to bring in their own directly-loyal Thoughtsenser, which is common but by no means universal.) 

 

You would think commiseration and condolences would feel good, but actually Ellitrea just feels numb. She'll absolutely take a drink, though. 

"- I assume you know better than I do what happened between when he Gated up here and when he died. I left the south earlier than him, too, he was jumping the queue to take a point-to-point Gate-routing and I used the standard routing. I doubt much happened, I left Stormhaven - three candlemarks before him? He'd wanted me to find him a replacement clerk, his usual one was injured when we set up a diplomatic meeting as a trap to try to lure the cultists of Atet out." They had fallen for it, too, and Altarrin had been right that they could pull it off, none of his people actually died. "Anyway, he sent me back with a few messages, routine things - I don't know if I remembered to bring those notes."

And one for Carissa, but 'personal messages for the girl he's protecting' isn't obviously in scope for the investigation, it's sort of private, it's very high context and a state secret she is not going to just spew out unless very directly ordered (this is, in fact, policy, the Office of Inquiry isn't trying to be terrible for infosec), and - other than the fact that the mine was partly for her, but surely they know that - she can't see how Carissa could have been involved. Maybe by making Altarrin sad? She's not going to spontaneously volunteer random things about Altarrin's emotional life either. 

"Um. It's - we had an extremely hectic few days while I was there - he'd called me out a few days after that mage Final Striked in the basement of the meeting-house and killed the entire council. He was interviewing replacement Mage-Generals first, I think, and laying some preliminary plans for rooting out the resistance, but even with the pastwatching spell he was having trouble tracking them all the way to their hideouts. So I was down there for a few days - I'm sure you know the calendar dates better than I do, at this point, it's been - a lot. We worked long days. He was doing a lot of magic - he doesn't delegate pastwatching, says he can get more detail on it than anyone more junior. I think we were both going to bed with reaction-headaches. - And then we had an unlucky encounter and he got thrown across a room. He did have a Healer patch him up before he transferred over here, I don't think he was - impaired - but I'm sure he was tired. I worried, a little, but–" Helpless shrug. "I'm sure you know men like that, and - when they've always come back fine every time before -" 

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Bastrea will nod sympathetically, and murmur the appropriate things, and say that yes, it was extraordinary that Altarrin came back, and get Ellitrea to go over it in more detail, again, and again, and again, especially about the 'unlucky encounter' until Ellitrea's sick of it, while the scribe eavesdropping on the meeting writes down everything. 'Interrogator' is not a job for the impatient. The Office of Inquiry wants to know everything, "any detail, no matter how small, might prove to be the key to the investigation."

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....They can go further back but Ellitrea did not actually bring her personal, non-loyalty-check notes or her calendar planner, and is not sure she'll get the dates right - she understands if they want to request that from the capital, though, she can give instructions for her clerk to locate it and any other relevant documentation. 

Altarrin had made a briefer trip south before this. Came back intensely frustrated about the entire temple of Atet and the culture of the Holy Empire of Ithik - she doesn't think that impaired his judgement on the second trip down, aside from the fact that every trip is exhausting and leaves him returning to a backlog, and he's always worked very hard but he's not as young as he was...

(She is not crying it is extremely undignified to cry while being questioned in the investigation of an assassination, even if you are very tired and have had two drinks and the interrogator is being very kind about everything.) 

- his last away trip before that was actually to the mine as well, during the initial setup. It was much less eventful and she can't actually remember him having any particular concerns about the Vkandis cultists when he returned. She thinks he just went himself because, though it's not his current role, he has a very extensive and broadly scoped mage-engineering education as well, he's (not crying even a little bit) so knowledgeable, there are so many things where he was probably the best in the Empire... 

 

 

(She is not precisely avoiding mentioning Carissa as 'Altarrin's current woman', but it - really doesn't come up that much in his day to day responsibilities as Archmage-General, and she is still going to hold off on going into the side of the project that's a state secret until they order her to tell them. Her compulsions, in fact, aren't actually going to let her share anything that's not in the cover story until so ordered.) 

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There were! He was! His death is a tremendous loss.

Yes, they'd appreciate it if she'd ask the clerk to bring the notes. (They do have a Thoughtsenser, the Office of Inquiry doesn't have many but it has more than none, and she's watching Ellitrea from well outside the room. If Ellitrea tries to send any coded message, the Office will know and the message will not get through. But they're being polite.)

They would like to know why Altarrin set up the mine, if she knows, but they aren't trying to press on this point; just that it could be very important.

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Ellitrea does not appear to be trying to pass any coded messages. It hasn't even slightly occurred to her that the investigators might suspect her of it. She's so tired and she's never actually been in an interrogation as part of a real Office of Inquiry investigation into the death of someone important who she worked closely with and who mattered to her. It's clear in her thoughts that she's mostly exhausted and finding this deeply emotionally draining. - she really hopes Carissa is all right, but she's still not thinking of this as very on-topic, and it also hurts, so she's not dwelling on it. 

 

 

...It's a project that he was trying not to draw attention to - she doesn't know all of it, and not all of what she does know is hers to share unless the Office of Inquiry explicitly rules that it's relevant. 

(....she knows kind of a lot. There is much more in the category of 'not hers to share'. But there are, in fact, things that she knows Altarrin didn't tell her. Presumably Carissa is now the only one who knows, unless Ketar somehow ended up knowing - she knows he hasn't told her everything either - or unless Carissa started confiding in Merda much more than she was aware of...) 

Anyway. Short and non-classified version: Carissa, a young woman from Aksell, student at a reclusive mage-school and with a very unusual Wild Gift, knew the Archmage-General's face from earlier travels. Her Wild Gift included the ability to (very very expensively, and she thinks in this case only with the aid of a teacher she left behind) replicate a Gate, or maybe something more like an overpowered version of the highly specialized Fetching Gift? Since she can't do it again, they haven't been able to study it, but it'd fit, most of her techniques imitate Mind-Gifts more than mage-techniques - she can do translation, she can do headbands that make you feel, and to some extent verifiably be, sharper and more awake, or more confident and charismatic. 

(This is not entirely true, though per Ellitrea's thoughts, most of the Gift-capabilities part isn't false, just incomplete. This is the version that isn't a state secret that Altarrin never gave her clearance to share. Ellitrea's compulsions are really good at getting her to not dwell on the state secret part.) 

She works with artifacts. They use 'spellsilver', thus the high priority mine project. She can develop more over time and was working on several, including (and this was debatably a state secret but it does seem relevant) one that imitated a limited version of Thoughtsensing, for Altarrin. She has one that makes you need less sleep; Altarrin was still working himself way too hard, in Ellitrea's opinion, but if anyone had the impression he was sleeping concerningly little, actually he's basically fine on two or three candlemarks a night now. 

He was keeping it quiet because, one, it's clearly a huge resource and one everyone would be trying to grab, and two, Carissa had a very bad time of it, and needed a lot of reassurance and costly signs of safety to be able to work to the best of her ability. Anyone who's worked with Altarrin knows that he takes the needs of his staff and allies seriously. 

(This part is absolutely true, according to Ellitrea's thoughts. Poor Carissa.) 

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Yes, Kastil thinks, that is the story he already picked up, just with a little more detail. It is not, in fact, new. (The fact that Carissa is the only one who knows what is going on with Carissa is, well, idiots, but nonetheless fits his extremely disturbing pattern.)

 

Back in the interrogation room!

... That is very interesting. (They do not say this, but:  The Office of Inquiry would in fact like to know more... but it will circle around, and nod, and go over the things he was doing before Carissa arrived, and then her notes and her calendar can arrive and they can go over the schedule page by page, confirming everything...

And then (once she's not feeling quite so tense, and, also, will be completely exhausted) they can say that, actually, the Office of Inquiry does think that this secret is very important to their investigation, and they would like to know exactly what they aren't being told.

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Ellitrea had known that the Office of Inquiry was thorough but somehow she hadn't expected that to mean interrogations that lasted, like, eight candlemarks. Do they realize she was up early today and worked a full day before coming here she is not going to say that, they're being polite and she is going to be polite back and not even a little bit snappish. It's not like there's anything she can really be usefully doing for the situation in the capital, though she does very much hope it's going all right. 

She will, with as much patience as possible despite being increasingly frazzled, go over everything repeatedly, summarize the last year, come back to her notes and calendar and double-check dates. There are no major discrepancies, though she can give them more detail on various Carissa-related requests that roughly match what she's said so far. Altarrin was trying to teach Carissa to navigate court politics. It was important for collaborating on their project. 

 

She did grow up at court. As long as they haven't explicitly asked for the parts they aren't being told, she will very assiduously mention whenever something is 'the non-secret part of the story', and not think about the secret part enough for even a good Thoughtsenser to catch onto everything. 

 

(They'll probably get a bit more emotional subtext, as she gets tireder. Carissa and Altarrin were not in fact sleeping together, though this isn't rare for him. Carissa was - insecure, felt like he didn't want her. She thinks Carissa was actually sort of hurt, when he kept leaving on dangerous missions rather than prioritizing his own survival, not that Carissa would ever have said this out loud in a million years, Carissa's - home culture - did not exactly reward that.) 

 

 

 

She cries, a couple of times, though she quickly gets herself under control. She will admit, sort of, that she feels guilty - that she feels like she failed Altarrin by not - taking on more of his burdens, pushing him to rest more and delegate more. He was under so much pressure. 

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The interrogator will continue offering sympathy and support for how horrible all of this is, but they do need a little more, they do need a little more - 

For instance, now that she's gone over everything, they want the secret part of the story, that they are not being told. They think it is necessary for their investigation.

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- She was really expecting that a lot sooner. It's - she hadn't thought it was directly relevant but she supposes it's indirectly relevant to, well, why the gods threw so much at this. Why it was too much, when Altarrin has always been tough enough to survive it before. 

 

Can she get that in writing with the seal of an authorized Imperial order, her compulsions seem to run a lot through loyalty to Altarrin and she realizes this is the best thing she can do to help him, now, the only thing, he would want them to patch whatever the flaws were in their system, just, she's - slightly having trouble. 

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They understand. Altarrin was a great man, and truly loyal to the empire. Here's the authorized Imperial order to assist the inquiry into Altarrin's death however it is in your power. 

(This is a fairly standard thing, gotten sensibly in advance and in writing, from the Emperor. It is not a specific imperial order to her. It's just that quite often you get provincial governors, say, who consider themselves to be above the Office of Inquiry if it doesn't have a generic Imperial Order to Assist to swat them with.)

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It might not be the only or even most important thing, she might be able to finish his project for him and that's the most important thing that's ever happened, so much more important than just headbands, and she's not sure how much anyone other than Altarrin understood his vision and probably she can't be him but still it might not be too late to salvage. 

 

 

(This line of thought is very quiet and does not actually specify "the project.") 

She'll give them the secret details, though, in a kind of disorganized and fragmentary order because most of this she doesn't have written notes on (surely Altarrin had them but if so she does not have the faintest idea where he kept them, he definitely has secret places for that and now they'll never know.) 

Carissa is not from Aksell and doesn't have a Wild Gift. She's from another world. Called Golarion. Different magic - it's called arcane magic or wizardry, it's not a Gift - and it has different gods. Some of them scarier, there's one who rules a country directly like Iftel but also deliberately makes it as horrible as possible and tortures people and keeps slaves. 

- but they also have - places where souls go after they die. Actual places, literal other planes as far as she could tell, where souls - have actual afterlives, experiencing and changing. There are - a lot of them, in some weird classification system, uh she cannot actually remember the exact details but some are good and some are awful. 

The gods can give humans magic. 

Carissa grew up in the country ruled by Asmodeus, the god of "Hell" - one of the horrible afterlives - who tortures people a lot. She was frightened and often literally tortured into loyalty. She eventually had some realizations, decided to fight Asmodeus. Then ended up here in some extremely baffling series of events. 

 

Didn't trust Altarrin at first but she thinks they talked it out and came to an agreement. Carissa - very badly wanted to fix the thing where souls, here, don't really go anywhere when they die. 

She doesn't know if they had more of a roadmap for that then 'get spellsilver, make magical artifacts, eventually make things more public'. Plausibly they did. She thinks Altarrin kept a lot of plans to himself. 

 

 

What else can she tell them. She's– 

 

- oh right this is relevant, Carissa can shapechange with her magic and, when she was worried Altarrin would get bored of her or get himself killed she decided to seduce the Emperor, as a man (and then sell it by offering that as a woman she could bear his heirs, maybe?). Altarrin was aware of this. It seemed like a dubious plan - and Carissa is definitely not entirely a safe person - but Altarrin wasn't worried. She has the loyalty compulsions, she's not stupid, and - the Empire is something she respects, something she wants to succeed, one thing that it had in common with Cheliax is being the wealthiest and most magically advanced place in the world, and it doesn't torture people. Carissa had no incentive to betray the Empire. 

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Another world.

Right.

Probably a lie. Probably this is just some kind of complicated trick, designed to get Altarrin's guard down. (Or Ellitrea's guard down, whichever that is.) Mage-Inquisitor Kastil is vaguely aware that there are other landmasses on this world, and the odds that she's from one of them are tremendously greater; there being other worlds is fantastically unlikely.

Possibly - 

- This is the worst possible possibility but what if one of the gods from her place, say the one from her country that she presumably worships managed to take a ride - or she's planning to let it come over she might claim she doesn't, this isn't worth following out, the odds of this being important are minuscule but if she does serve a god who runs a pocket dimension where he tortures people and wants to run the Eastern Empire directly that would be the worst possible thing that could ever happen -

I'm sorry she's what. What. What.

(Kastil is not giving much in the way of instructions to Bastrea, who is therefore being very polite and nodding a lot and saying she understands this is very strange and if there's anything else Ellitrea can remember...)

...

So as soon as she tries to seduce the Emperor, Altarrin mysteriously dies. And she has mysterious powers that are not, in fact, from Aksell, and can use 'spellsilver' - which Altarrin just mined her quite a lot of - to have mental effects on people that resemble Gifts but do not line up with any known Gifts in any way.

... If they intend to consider her world as being at all the way Ellitrea described it, then the principle of simplicity suggests that her powers come from her god, though of course it's usually unwise to get caught up in the details of a fantasy she's spinning.

Focus on the important things: As soon as she meets Altarrin, he's seduced by her (not in the literal sleeping with sense, possibly) and begins giving her lots of resources to build equipment, which she does. She gets headbands on everyone, gets a device made to mimic Thoughtsensing, and then she goes to seduce the Emperor... and succeeds, because she has outside-context powers... apparently including shapeshifting, which ought to be impossible by magery...

There are multiple levels of 'everything is worse than it was last week', and Kastil is so tired. But, well, someone has to do his job or it won't get done.

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Ellitrea will go over everything for them. She realizes this is bizarre and probably really terrifying if you're hearing about it now - after Altarrin's death - and not, like Altarrin did, smashing Carissa's spells with raw mage-energy and badly injuring her in the process (because she wasn't expecting their Gifts any more than they were expecting wizardry), keeping her unconscious with Healing while he did a frantic research project on the god-names they'd glimpsed in her thoughts, determining something was odd and waking her up under enough compulsions that she couldn't finish thoughts - 

 

She had considering praying to a god, for help or just answers. Not Asmodeus, though. Uhhhhh. Possibly they would have to ask - Carissa - about the other gods, but there are some that Altarrin even sort of agreed might not be terrible. There's one dedicated to fighting Evil and Asmodeus in particular, maybe? ...This was a really long time ago and she has mostly not been the one reading Carissa's mind since. Ketar's done it more, including after the point when (Ellitrea is pretty sure) Altarrin and Carissa went off to a secure location that was not anywhere near Iftel and had a heart-to-heart, and Altarrin arranged to give Carissa a set of incentives where she could best achieve what she wanted here, working for him. 

 

...Carissa's world doesn't have Foresight anymore. For some reason that Ellitrea does not entirely understand but possibly involves gods being murder-able? Carissa did not, uh, know the details. She would presumably have to be vastly more powerful anyway to murder gods. 

 

Carissa was deeply indignant about most of the local gods, which she considered bizarrely unhelpful and incapable of communication, and also outrageously against, you know, progress and magical advancement and material wealth and all children learning to read. 

 

Ketar had a crush on Carissa which she worried would be a problem but with some firm advice (including from Merda) she thinks he got over it. He was probably mostly worried about Carissa being mistreated by Altarrin. Carissa had some much worse relationships in Cheliax, which is, you know, unsurprising, country ruled by a torture god and everything.

 

She...will admit that Carissa's arrival was - probably implicated in Altarrin's death, in a purely causal way, it's not a coincidence that the gods made a much more involved attempt on him within six weeks of Carissa's arrival. Partly the spellsilver mine, of course, and Altarrin being - willing to take a greater risk, because the upside of Carissa solving the Empire's problems was worth it to him, but also... Uh, she can't remember when they had this conversation, but he thinks the gods dislike Foresight noise. Carissa, as an out of context problem, is noisy. Altarrin wants to use her out-of-context abilities to push back further against the stupid awful gods than they've ever managed before. Presumably the gods disapprove. It's - not Carissa's fault, that Altarrin is - the person he is, somehow the gods already disliked. But she'll acknowledge the - relation. 

(She thinks Carissa was sad. Not devastated, she - tried hard not to get attached - but sad, and angry at Velgarth's gods for destroying so much. She didn't actually read her mind, though, it was just body language and - knowing her as a person.) 

 

 

 

She'll maybe dig up a few bits and pieces like that but she's running low on new information and also the ability to have coherent thoughts. It's nearly dawn. 

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Then that's the point where they hit her with ten different compulsions simultaneously. (Not to contact anyone else, not to use her Gifts, not to resist, not to attack anyone, not to leave the room, to obey orders...) - all phrased very carefully, not quite in the standard way that anyone at court is used to thinking around, so that she can't just evade them with practiced habits, snip her previous compulsions (they will, of course, replace them afterwards), and watch very carefully that nobody else in the area starts at all when they do this.

Then they can provide her with coffee, and then they can get started going over everything she said, rather less politely, just to make sure there's nothing she left out. They have no intention of using torture - it's inefficient, when you have Compulsions and thoughtsensing both.

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- you know she would probably have predicted this if she had been. Thinking. 

 

(She tries to tell herself it's fine - it's good that they're being thorough and careful and paranoid, Altarrin would approve, Altarrin did approve - honestly he should have done some things differently, only she gets why he was scared and - 

- and what if it gets worse now, that the secret isn't small, what if the Foresight footprint is bigger, what if it sends more of the gods after Carissa, who Altarrin had wanted so badly to keep alive - but it's all right it has to be all right at least they'll have more help in dealing with that - 

- she's so incredibly angry with the gods -) 

 

 

Ellitrea's story doesn't especially change in its highlights. She can recall more conversations, more events, more observations she made. With coffee, and the right prompting, they can get more of the subtext that made her say that Carissa is not an especially safe person, though Ellitrea maintains firmly even in her thoughts that neither is Altarrin and in fact you can't be and also get anything done. 

They'll also get a whole bunch of emotions about how Carissa and Altarrin were almost but not quite communicating, almost but not quite close or able to trust each other in the friend way not the ally way, and like, Altarrin is himself, Altarrin mostly doesn't have...friends...and maybe couldn't have gotten where he was if he did. But. He was lonely, and he was sad, and Carissa - seemed to just find that kind of tedious, sometimes, but if they could have just really talked then maybe Carissa would have understood and been there for him in the way that Ellitrea never really could be... 

 

 

 

She is trying so hard to believe that she isn't betraying Altarrin, because if she were then she doesn't think she could keep going at all 

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They will reassure her that she is serving Altarrin and the Empire, that she is, genuinely, doing the right thing for her teacher and her country, as they guide her to one of the Very Polite Prison Cells For People We Don't Want To Die Of Cold And Damp. 

- And the investigation at court, along parallel tracks: What does the situation there look like?

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They're having a stressful evening, too, as it happens.

Carissa went into her shielded Work Room and didn't come out all day or well into the night. They pieced together why when they arrested Ketar and Merda in their sleep; both knew, apparently, that Carissa was currently Caris, and currently on a date.

With the Emperor.

Ketar additionally knows some specific detail about their sex life. The Emperor has evinced an interest in being given orders and treated as powerless, and Caris has been providing. 

Ketar likes Carissa, feels badly for her. He seems to have switched mentally to trusting and wanting to protect Carissa based on the first day of mindreading her, which (it strikes the inquisitor writing this report) might suggest that her manipulative powers extend to Thoughtsensers reading her at a distance; he hadn't met her face to face at that point. Ketar's own account, of course, is just that she was inventive and curious and fascinating, and then terrified to be called to Altarrin's quarters, where she expected the violent rape that would be...traditional in her culture, or something, and this made Ketar feel badly for her and protective of her, to the point where it ran up against his loyalties. 

Merda says that she doesn't know if she likes Carissa or not and it depends entirely on whether Carissa sticks around to clear up the mess she made or runs (Merda's betting on runs) and of course whether Carissa killed Altarrin but she claims to be quite sure she didn't. Her Thoughtsensing artifact, a bribe for putting Caris in front of the Emperor, has been confiscated. They haven't tested it. Merda says it works great, though only on people in the same room. 

They ...await guidance on what to do about the fact that the investigation target is spending the night in the Emperor's private suite. 

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Kastil will be over immediately. The plan is to arrest her with minimum casualties as soon as she leaves - the Emperor is not acceptable collateral damage. The plan for this - 

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Caris wakes earlier than the Emperor, of course. He has decided to endeavor to still be in bed and snuggly when the Emperor wakes up; there's lots of romantic possibility he is otherwise foreclosing. So he quietly prepares spells, and then quietly does some crafting, ready to put it away when the Emperor starts to stir, which shouldn't be for several more hours.

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The plan is this. They move in tonight, to surround the imperial bedroom. They check the commander of the imperial guard for compulsions as best they can, then inform him the emperor's current lover is wanted for questioning in a serious crime, and that he should not inform the emperor until the suspect can be apprehended. They watch him, of course, with Thoughtsensing, so he can't send a message.

When Caris, Carissa, or anyone other than the Emperor leaves the room (without the emperor), the first group of mages hits that person with everything they've got - compulsions, cuts to any spells on them they can see, force-blasts (and a Fetcher, brought in at great expense) to remove talismans, attack-spells to bludgeon the mind or stun the nervous system into unconsciousness, low-powered levinbolts that cause a great deal of pain but don't stop the heart, and all the other nonlethal weapons that the Empire has developed for subduing mages, to which they're adding darts tipped with a variety of nonlethal poisons (normally useless against shielded mages unless you get the shields down). The Empire has developed quite a lot of tools, for the purpose. Simultaneously, Kastil and two of his deputies will open horizontal unthresholded Gates beneath their target; the deputies are much slower, so they shouldn't interfere with the first Gate, and they have a proscribed order for stacking. All these go to a windowless cell full of a soporific gas buried in a specific extremely warded location beneath Inquisition headquarters which is warded against all magic aimed outwards, including Gates.

The third group of mages is supposed to kill Carissa with every attack-spell they have if she shrugs off the nonlethal weapons and the Gate and is still moving at the end of it.

(Kastil needs to be there, in person, to apologize to the Emperor - passing that off would be simple cowardice; If the Emperor wants him to make the full apology, his deputy is fully briefed. Further copies will be released to most of the other top Inquisition officers if he does not return.)

If anyone else enters, the Imperial Guard go through exactly the normal procedure and they arrest Caris as described above the moment he's alone. While the operation is underway, any orders to cancel it should be assumed a product of Carissa's mind control abilities. If he countermands the order to take Caris prisoner for any reason, he is to be assumed compromised and his offsite deputy will take over and call an emergency alert, a process that will involve informing the entire Inquisition and probably some Archmage-Generals.

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Almost two days earlier. It's a few minutes past noon.

Everything is still and quiet and dark in a deep underground in an incredibly well-shielded room -

(in fact, the same shielded room where Altarrin once panic-Gated with Carissa, six weeks ago)

- and then, unobserved by anyone, the glow of a Gate-threshold appears. It's anchored on something that isn’t actually a permanent Gate, it has no power source, but it does have some of the targeting-related set-spells, and some structure laid in the stone to guide the magic now shaping the destination threshold.

The threshold is nearly in place when the magic - jumps, twitches, flaring as the source on the other side is disrupted - and then it snaps into place and a man is tumbling through, with the characteristic rolling momentum that an experienced mage might recognize as what it looks like when a mage drops themselves through a horizontal Gate-threshold onto a vertical destination one. He’s already curling into fetal position, protecting his head - on the other side is clearly a blaze of fire, briefly lighting the stone walls and neatly stacked crates, but he's shielded -

 

 

And then, with no warning at all and when the man is about halfway through his sideways fall, the Gate-threshold explodes. The force of it flings the man through the rest of the way, even as the Gate-threshold comes apart, and smashes him into the opposite wall near the ceiling. He falls, ragdoll limp, and lands, two meters down, in a heap on the unforgiving stone floor. His clothes are slightly on fire.

His heat-shield talisman absorbed most of the force from the fiery explosion that took down his Gate, before shattering and backlashing onto him; he’s badly burned, especially his hands and forearms, and the small narrow stone room already reeks of scorched meat.

His several overlapping shields against mage-energies are actually designed with Gate-strikes in mind, and even operating on pure reflex, he was running the energy-link to the threshold through a high capacity focus-stone. They get most of the backlash – and then they shatter, the focus-stone rather violently, and his mage-channels take the rest. His physical shields were still just barely intact when he hit the wall, at which point they too bite the dust, and he picks up some broken bones and internal injuries on both impacts.

 

Once the light of the disintegrating Gate-threshold fades, the room is once again still and quiet and pitch-black. But if an observer were there (none is), they might hear the man’s ragged, unsteady breathing.

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Five hours pass. It's early evening, now. 

 

The man stirs.

He's only very debatably conscious, and certainly not lucid, but some things are trained to the level of reflex. Mage-sight (it hurts a lot). Check for shields and wards.

...Familiar. And he's alone. Safe, for now. He drops mage-sight before the effort and pain of it drives him back into unconsciousness. 

 

- he's cold. (In fact, the man's body temperature has been dropping for candlemarks while he lay unconscious on the bare stone in an unheated underground base, and he's now well into the realm of hypothermia.) 

It takes him a long time to do anything about this, because it involves making a decision and a plan, however basic. 

 

 

...Heat-spell? - Yeah no absolutely not, and the effort sends him spiraling back into unconsciousness. 

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- wards? Familiar. Safe, for now. - cold. So cold. Can't feel his fingers or toes.

Shouldn't - magic - but - supplies -? 

 

All of the records caches have the exact same layout, for exactly this reason. Altarrin can, without ever carrying out more than one step of planning, find a wall, follow it until he finds the nearest stack of crates - 

 

(this takes him almost a candlemark, because he's still very much sliding between brief periods of semi-consciousness and deeper unconsciousness - but he repeats the same loop, over and over, orient, figure out the priority, take the next step toward it -) 

 

His hands really aren't working, by the time he reaches the crates, but the fact that he can't feel his extremities at all is almost useful, it means he's not in agonizing pain as he flails with his burned useless hands for the bedroll that should be there...

- collapses back to the stone. 

 

 

 

...check wards? (ow) 

Familiar. Safe for now. Alone? ...cold. Also, he seems to be half lying on a rolled-up bedroll and set of blankets. Good...work...past him? (He has absolutely no memory of getting here.) 

The bedroll is supposed to be very easy to unroll but he still ends up needing to use his teeth, and passing out again a couple of times. But, eventually, he gets himself into the wool-lined sleeping sack, mostly, though he's lost track of the mat for cushioning the floor.

It's been seven candlemarks since his Gate.  

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It's a well-insulated sleeping bag, with a heating set-spell designed to trigger when it's disturbed. The man still shivers for a while - half-wakes a few more times, reflexively orients, notices warmth, slides back into darkness - 

 

 

Once he's mostly warm enough, he subsides into an exhausted half-sleep, half-stupor. 

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Another nine candlemarks pass. It's been sixteen candlemarks, now, since the explosion and the Gate. 

 

(It's the early hours of the morning, almost exactly a day before Carissa will wake up in the Emperor's suite and prepare her spells.) 

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(Sixteen candlemarks with severe burns and, not just without Healing attention but without food or water, would normally not be very survivable. However, Altarrin has a Ring of Sustenance.) 

 

 

He claws his way to awareness. 

He's in agonizing pain, is the first thing he notices. He can feel his body again, now that he's not freezing, and he does not appreciate it at all. His arms and hands are in agony, an agony he recognizes - burns, not good when he's alone without Healing care, just being mage-gifted doesn't give him any special immunity to infection and the spells he knows for it are...blunt instruments. 

His right arm is almost certainly badly broken. He's done something nasty to his neck though given the normal sensation in his body he probably hasn't damaged his spine. He doesn't think he has a concussion, and the backlash is starting to recede, but his head still hurts very badly. There's a stabbing pain in his ribs whenever he breathes. 

 

 

That being said: he's alive, and he's clearly been in and out of consciousness for a while even if he has no memory of it - no one else put him into this bedroll, and he's rather experienced at evaluating the stages of recovery-from-backlash, if it was bad enough to knock him out and he feels like this now it's been at least ten, twelve candlemarks... His injuries themselves aren't going to kill him, though infection might. 

 

 

 

- time to orient more fully. How did he get here....? 

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....Carissa. 

 

 

 

She wasn't there in the exact leadup, of course. He's bleary enough that it takes a while to retrieve, but - north. Mine explosion. Betrayal. He remembers looking into the Healers' eyes, recognizing the magical signature of a blood-magic-boosted Final Strike about to smash into him, and knowing that she had known 

(at least Carissa wasn't there, she wouldn't have been hurt)

- remembering noticing that he hadn't been careful enough, not paranoid enough, obviously he shouldn't have gone north at all and obviously he should have told Carissa about the notes he had left for her - and all the other supplies, he's taken a few opportunities to Gate around and drop more crates of his own records and boxes of Velgarth mage-artifacts in her cave, because in the scenario where she had to flee there, she would need months of runway before he could find her again... 

 

But he didn't have that conversation, because -? 

Because it hurt, and he was so tired, and it never felt like he could quite manage to navigate it so that Carissa heard the thing he meant. Because it - because why?

Because it kept feeling like there would be a better time later, when she felt more secure, more established, less like he was the one who held all the cards. He doesn't think he was wrong, that Carissa needed that, but - she needed other things, too, and he's pretty sure there's some way he could have threaded that needle, if he had tried harder - if he'd tried at all 

 

It's stupid how everything having fallen apart makes him realize, too late, what he should have done, when even the occasional Owl's Wisdom that he requested didn't - he understands better why Carissa was so frustrated with human weakness, he's not sure he agrees but he understands 

Hindsight bias. It's easy to say now what he should have done. It's worth doing a post-mortem on whether he had enough information to know that before, but - not right now, not as the top priority, it's not over.

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He needs to find out where Carissa is, whether she's safe - she must have learned of his 'death', and regardless of whether she suspected he was alive, she would have gotten out right away. Unless she thought she had a better option - with the Emperor, presumably, if that was going well. He needs to check which one 

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No, actually, the first priority here is to do something about his injuries. He doesn't have access to Healing, which means it's even more important to clean and bandage the injuries that are at risk of getting infected, if they aren't already. And then he can track down his scrying artifacts, and figure out what's going on. 

 

(It's been half a day. At this point, Carissa knows what happened in the north. Either she Teleported out at the first opportunity or she didn't, and any near-term consequences that were going to play out already have. If she got out, then she might or might not come looking for him, and if she doesn't, he can still try to find her later, it's not urgent on the level of candlemarks. So it's - only worth worrying, right now, about the scenarios where Carissa is in trouble, of a kind he can still get her out of, maybe. Which requires him to be functional.) 

 

Sitting up is terrible, and he cannot actually stand, but he can shuffle on the floor, and he knows where everything is, and his hands are not working well but he can feel his fingers (unfortunately) and leave smears of blood and pus on the crate lids, and his mage-gift is working well enough that he can use some clumsy force-nets to help.

 

He has an artifact for sterilizing unclean water to make it safe to drink; it needs a trickle of mage-energies to activate, but he can manage that, at this point. The particular spell is not a great idea to use on flesh but it'll help shut down an incipient infection and won't immediately hurt, and then he can find arrange salve and clean bandages in reach and the bedroll to fall onto, and a pot of spirits mixed with artifact-sterilized water, and dunk his hands and forearms, for a second pass at all the spots the spell wouldn't necessarily have reached - 

 

(this part is agonizingly painful and he doesn't quite lose consciousness but he's dizzy and faint and does, in fact, need to flop back and focus on breathing for a while until he can see again) 

 

- salve. Bandages. He can do this. 

 

Afterward - it's a slow process, multiple breaks are needed - Altarrin lies down again to try to catch his breath, and wishes he'd also taken out the strong painkillers. (He didn't for a reason; he knew it would be more tempting afterward, and he really shouldn't give in to that temptation and then sleep for the next eight candlemarks, even if that's what his body desperately craves.) 

He's nonetheless exhausted enough to drift, half-dozing, for another couple of candlemarks. 

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(Almost twenty candlemarks after the explosion and the Gate. It's morning again, outside, not that Altarrin has any idea.) 

 

- wake up. ...Wards, familiar, safe for now - orient -? 

 

Carissa. 

 

...Scrying-focus, is what he needs. It's in one of the crates but unfortunately it's not one of his emergency survival supplies and so it's not in one of the top crates.

Altarrin - will grit his teeth and make his way to the right pile and miserably find a way to drag the top crate aside without the use of his bandaged hands, and then get the lid off with a mix of using mage-gift and his teeth, and find the scrying-focus among all the other items with mage-sight (ow) and use a force-net (owwwww) to retrieve it.

 

Carissa's supply-cave, first, the one with all the spellsilver, where he suggested she flee if it came up. If she's there, he can't actually join her yet, a Gate is still well beyond his capabilities, but - it'll make the situation less time-sensitive and he can afford to rest.  

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Carissa is not there. 

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Also, the effort of casting even that tiny magic exhausts him. Altarrin collapses back onto his bloodstained bedroll, and sleeps. 

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(Twenty-three candlemarks after the incident. It's almost noon.) 

 

 

Wake up. Orient - check wards - Carissa - focus - 

This time he needs a plan before he uses magic and inevitably passes out. Carissa hasn't fled - probably - and if she has she's fine so it makes sense to focus on the worlds where his actions in the next day might make a difference. 

What would have happened, in the time after he Gated out - he's not sure how long it's been, but (checking his body, the parts that aren't bandaged) judging by the progression of bruises and scabs, somewhere between 18 and 36 candlemarks. Probably. 

 

Carissa...would have gone to the Emperor, probably, in her guise as a young man. Because she was optimistic enough about her seduction to see him as a potential protector. 

(He can't scry the Emperor's quarters in this condition to check if Carissa is there. He could theoretically get past the wards, maybe, he was heavily involved in designing them, but - not when he's exhausted and feverish and barely lucid.) 

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The obvious response is to call for help. He can't manage a Gate of the relevant distance, and he can't summon help to his current location and give it away, but he could probably manage a communication-spell using an artifact, and then a blind Gate to a mile away, and the Empire would send a team to retrieve him, with Healers and guards - 

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- Risky.  

 

The assassination plot against him included elements from within the Empire. He doesn't know how extensive, yet - it might have been a purely local resistance effort, though of course he's well aware of the ultimate source - but he also knows that he already has enemies at court. Who might take advantage of his vulnerability. He can't even reach Carissa to advise her; she's not a mage, can't receive the communication-spell without a very specialized artifact that isn't actually a known Empire technique - can't raise a Gate to the suite bedroom to talk to her, he'll pass out from the effort before he can speak...

So. The one benefit is that if Carissa is a suspect in arranging his death, proving that he isn't dead might - help. But it might not. He has no idea what the conditions are right now - in Jacona, in Isk, anywhere - and it goes against all of his instincts, to head into a situation blind and predictably incapacitated. 

 

 

Learn more, then. And do his best to rest, in between, and regain some of his strength - and hopefully he can confirm that it's safe to return to the Empire for Healing.

He can scry the palace (including some parts of it that aren't scryable to anyone else). Find out more precisely how long it's been. What the Emperor is up to - find Ellitrea, Merda, Ketar - find Carissa, if she's not in hiding... 

...The Office of Inquiry would investigate. Altarrin knows rather a lot about the Office (having participated heavily in creating it.) He can - with some thought, and some checking of records, interrupted with breaks to rest - figure out who he needs to search, where he needs to scry, to guess at the current status of the investigation. 

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It takes the entire rest of the afternoon to piece together. Once he runs out of pre-powered focuses - he can still use the set-spell but has to provide his own energy - his attempts at scrying are unreliable, failing half the time, and he can hold it for ten minutes at a time before needing a half-candlemark of rest. 

 

The early information is reassuring. Over at the mine, it looks like Mage-Inquisitor Kastil is in charge. Good. The man is very competent and very very paranoid and unlikely to let this spiral any further out of control. The site appears to have been secured. 

The palace is as peaceful and ordered as anyone could expect the day after one of the most powerful men in the Empire was, supposedly, assassinated. Neither Merda nor Ketar seem worried or alarmed, and they're mostly going about their ordinary duties. He can't actually find Carissa but she tends to work behind shields - shields he laid for her, and could theoretically work around, but he's not confident he could actually manage the detail work for that right now - and he doesn't actually know what her male persona looks like. 

 

Scrying fragments of notes over the shoulders of clerks, Altarrin pieces together Mage-Inquisitor Kastil's theory about the mechanism of the attack. A clerk suborned (he should have been more careful!), a Healer desperate to rescue her - relative? brother, maybe? from a convict's hard labor sentence in a dangerous far-northern mine. Not even unreasonable of her. It - holds together. It's an angle the gods have used against him many times before. 

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(36 candlemarks after the explosion and the Gate.) 

 

Sometime after midnight – and six candlemarks accidentally spent in an exhausted but actually-restful sleep, after he finally allowed himself a painkiller stronger than willowbark – Altarrin wakes again.

He's feeling...significantly better? Still feverish and in an unreasonable amount of pain, but to his own surprise, his reaction-headache is nearly gone and his mage-reserves are recovering, despite the fact that he hasn't been eating or drinking– oh, right. That's probably the Ring of Sustenance. He feels a pulse of gratitude toward Carissa. 

 

He'll try some more scrying; it goes faster this time, now that he's closer to fully lucid and has more energy to work with. Merda? Ketar? Ellitrea? A search anchored on Carissa's Thoughtsensing talisman? The Emperor's quarters, not the bedroom itself but the less private areas? 

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Merda: asleep in bed. 

Ketar: ....not in his bed? 

Search-spell targeted on Ketar: failed, but it's not that surprising, he doesn't wear any artifacts that Altarrin made personally. 

Ellitrea: not in her bed. 

Search-spell targeted on Ellitrea: ....first try fails, but in the way that indicates bouncing into shields. By adding a few more complicated routing techniques, he gets the second try through. She's...up north? In a meeting-room with a woman wearing the uniform of the Inquisitors, body language not obviously unfriendly. She looks utterly exhausted, though. 

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This is worrying. 

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Merda: no longer in her bed! 

Search-spell targeted on Merda, including lots of fancy routing: ...prison cell?

 

 

The Emperor's suite, common areas: .....crawling with mages, who seemed to be stationed ready for combat. Some of them he recognizes as Inquisitors. 

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This is not a good sign at all. 

It's possible he could resolve it by Gating in. He thinks he could manage a Gate over that distance and stay conscious; he would be able to explain. 

 

...The issue is that Mage-Inquisitor Kastil is intensely paranoid. Rightly so - it's exactly what Altarrin wants out of the person doing his job - but it means he's likely to react to Altarrin (who's dead) Gating in with - well, paranoia. One of the better scenarios is that he knocks Altarrin out first, compulsions him to his teeth, and dumps him in a secure cell, and then asks questions. 

(And the gods are at work, here - the plot that nearly got him killed and did get him off the gameboard for a couple of days came at least partially from inside his own Empire - Altarrin can already guess that luck is not going to be in his favor, whatever he does.) 

 

Carissa is almost certainly in the Emperor's suite right now, and it very much looks like the Office of Inquiry intends to try to take her down (alive, hopefully) and asks questions after. 

But, again. Luck is not going to run in Carissa's favor, here, is it. 

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He can't fight his way to her and get her out, not against that many powerful and uninjured mages. He can't even expect to get a warning to her; they'll take him down before he reaches the Emperor's bedroom door. 

 

He's not sure there are any winning options left, here. 

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No. Think. It's not over yet - be creative - what constraints can he relax or drop here - 

 

He could...try to reach Kastil with the communication-spell? But he expects Kastil to be paranoid about that, too – Altarrin would be in his shoes, and (he thinks fondly) Mage-Inquisitor Kastil is if anything more paranoid than he is. Altarrin doesn't really expect to be able to talk Kastil down that way, or even talk him into delaying a little. And it would give away the element of surprise. 

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He could try to get a communication-spell to the Emperor. 

But saying...what? They've never spoken directly about Carissa, not beyond the public-consumption cover story. Carissa may or may not have revealed even that her boy persona is the same person as Altarrin's woman; he never had a chance to discuss her plan in detail either.

There's a chance that contacting the Emperor for a negotiation will make things better, at minimal cost, and give him an opening to de-escalate this mess. There are a number of other ways it could make things much much worse

 

(It would simplify a lot of things if he could contact Carissa directly. But the communication-spell only works with fellow mages, and - maybe, if he'd been thinking, he could have made time with Carissa to research a way for her to receive her end of it, modifying it to work with a Golarion spell or magic item - but he didn't do that. And now it's too late.) 

 

Everything is so much more obvious in hindsight when you're about to die.

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- all right, preparatory step. He would really like to write a note for the Emperor - some kind of explanation, some kind of verification that he was alive and made his next choices of his own free will - but he doesn't know how long he has, and his hands aren't working. 

Carissa will probably Teleport out as soon as anything scary happens, but it's hard to be sure of that. ...He's also not sure how often she bothers to cast the translation spell that lets her read. But seems worth taking two minutes, just in case she did. 

 

 

He finds paper. ...Tries to hold the pen in his teeth. It turns out to be easier to use a wisp of mage-gift and burn the letters into the paper, shaky and uneven but legible. 

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CARISSA

IN DANGER SUSPECT FOR MY MURDER

ROOM SURROUNDED GET OUT NOW

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Altarrin manages to get the note pinned to his shirt. 

He drags himself to one of the other crates. Digs out shield-talismans, four different varieties, fully charged. It almost certainly won't make a difference but he puts them on anyway. 

 

He grits his teeth, and struggles up to his knees– no, it's not worth wasting his strength on something like walking. Gate-threshold under him so he falls through, is the way to go, it's slightly more energy but his reserves are in better shape than his legs. 

 

- after a moment of thought, he does reach for the communication-spell focus that he left in reach earlier. 

 

Deep breath. Later, when he (most likely) wakes up in a teenager's body hundreds of miles away, he's going to be very irritated with himself for ending up in a position to carry out this gamble. But he's here right now, and there's no point being distracted by regrets. 

He closes his eyes, and builds a Gate-threshold. 

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You are really really really not supposed to be able to Gate directly into the Emperor's bedroom, the one place where he's ever in private, out of sight and immediate reach of his guard. 

Altarrin made those protections, and - blocking Gates entirely, in a robust way, is hard. The set-spell laid on the room disrupts the most efficient search-process-technique, the one taught in all schools in the Eastern Empire. Altarrin knows others. 

 

 

It's still suicide. The countermeasures will trigger and probably kill him by themselves, and then the Emperor's guards will break down the door and finish him off while he's incapacitated, and he's in no shape to defend himself - thinks his condition might be deteriorating, actually, he's hot and cold in bursts and his burns are leaking purulent fluid through the badly-wrapped dressings. 

 

But Carissa only needs a few seconds' warning to Teleport out, or turn invisible, or whatever she has planned (he's sure she has something planned.) 

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With his end of the Gate-threshold up and solid, and the search-spell extended and touching but not quite landing, Altarrin reaches out with the communication-spell artifact. Routes, with some effort but less than for the Gate-search, around the shielding. 

 

<Emperor Bastran this is Altarrin situation is not what it appears please stay calm>

This takes half a second and he doesn't wait for a response, just drops the spell and - completes the Gate. 

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At which point, from Caris' perspective, the characteristic glow of a Gate appears from nowhere - horizontal, midair, circular - and then Altarrin, or apparently Altarrin, tumbles through, a note written in the language of the Eastern Empire pinned to him. 

Well before he hits the ground, he is immediately hit by over a dozen different counterspells, some of them - like the underpowered levinbolts - visible to the naked eye.

He convulses in midair, lands hard on the rug, twitches and then is still. 

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That's sufficient, in a sense. 

She can't read the note, but it seems unlikely to be a warning to sit still.

She has no idea what's going on. The Emperor looks as startled as she is. She's worried about both of them, and she's not the best person to protect either of them. ...so she Dimension Doors eight hundred feet straight up in the air and clear of the palace.

If you're on a planet with no afterlives, you need to never ever ever be in a fight you didn't pick, it's that simple.

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She casts Feather Fall to stop herself from instantly falling right back down onto the palace, and then Fly (which is a much better spell, but can't be tossed off instantly), and then Invisibility, and then Nondetection, and then -

- not taking Altarrin along wasn't actually a conscious decision but probably it would also have been the wrong one, the man looked like he'd need medical attention -

- he's not dead, he's okay -

what dropped him here now why -

It's - possible that this is just straightforwardly good news, that everything is fine and Altarrin is getting medical attention back at the palace and she just revealed a capability for no reason because she was startled.

It's also possible that wasn't Altarrin. Or that it was, and that he did that because something was seriously and urgently wrong. She couldn't read the note, but she has very high Intelligence, these days, she can make an illusion of it as best as she remembers it in front of her face and then put up Comprehend Languages and - 

Yeah, okay. 

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Extremely fast failure analysis she was an idiot not to explicitly check with the Emperor that she was fine on that front - or would he have told her the truth - he doesn't actually seem to have spectacularly good Bluff but that's got to be an affectation, possibly along with everything else she thought was happening in the last few days -

- or she's just - missing something else - she's in this entire new world and she knew she was missing context - Altarrin has rivals, someone killed him and in some sense it was the gods but they act through people, here, usually - is he in fact safely getting medical attention or did he throw himself into great danger just to warn her of - 

 

- he would, is the thing, because she can die and he can't and he's the only person in the Empire who'd make that trade for that reason but she actually thinks he would -

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The imperial guard bursts in instantaneously, followed a few moments later by the inquisitors. The guards hit Altarrin with paralysis spells and Compulsions to do nothing do not move do not defend yourself do nothing on general purposes, because he's someone in the imperial chambers who isn't the Emperor and therefore might be suspicious, simultaneous with other guards raising a really improbable numbers of shields around the Emperor.

The Inquisition a moment later considers Altarrin "a person other than the Emperor" and when Kastil snaps "Fish purple mask" Phase One hits, because clobbering the suspiciously not dead Altarrin with every nonlethal weapon available to the Inquisition is something you can recover from, and failing to clobber the shapeshifter is not.

Kastil is already casting Phase Two, before he sees if Phase One landed or not. The shapeshifter not being in a room with the Emperor is important.

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The Emperor wakes from a sound sleep to the touch of a communication-spell. 

 

...He does have combat-training, but it's been years, and he is not yet processing especially until half a second has passed.

<is not what it appears please stay calm>

 

The communication-spell conveys much less "flavor" of its sender's mind than true Mindspeech. It conveys some, though, especially if both mages involved are very, very skillful with it. And different varieties of the spell also register differently, to someone with the training to notice such subtle shifts. All of the Emperor's personal guard can get a communication-spell through his bedroom shielding. They are compulsioned against ever teaching it to anyone else, and they were taught a short-range version. 

The Emperor recognizes the flavor of this variety. It's not the one his guards use. It's the long-range variant on it. Bastran knows it. He could count the number of others who (officially) do on the fingers of one hand. Altarrin is one of them. And Bastran has exchanged a dozen hours of communication-spell messages with his Archmage-General. He is - moderately - confident he knows that is who it was. 

 

All of these thoughts are crammed into the remaining fraction of a second before a Gate-terminus snaps up from nowhere, horizontal in midair, and that shouldn't be possible but if anyone could do it, it's Altarrin - and, indeed, it's Altarrin who falls through. 

The Emperor's mage-sight is already open. He raises a hand to try to shield his Archmage-General his friend and doesn't quite, actually, have time – what's happening – 

He doesn't have time to reach for Caris but he can sense his lover's life-force and starts to throw a shield over him and then Caris is - gone, some otherworldly magic - 

 

And then, unsurprisingly, his personal guard bursts through the door and hits Altarrin's unconscious body with a pile of other spells. 

Things are happening too fast. He opens his mouth to - he doesn’t even know what to say yet, they’re flinging shields over him and Altarrin is unconscious and maybe dying on the floor after his impossible Gate and Caris is gone.

 

At which point a second set of mages burst into his bedroom, and it’s not until they’re hitting his Archmage-General with a dozen other spells that would theoretically be non-lethal if he weren’t VERY OBVIOUSLY incapacitated, unconscious and maybe dying - that he recognizes the uniforms.

He manages a strangled yell of “STOP!” but it’s too late, someone not in view is casting a Gate, under Altarrin’s limp body, and he’s falling through, and Bastran does not actually have time to orient enough to say words before it’s all over. 

 

 

What. 

WHAT.

Why isn’t Caris here

 

Another few seconds slide past before Bastran pieces together that this is an Office of Inquiry operation and - if he’s judged the man right - then Mage-Inquisitor Kastil is nearby.

The Emperor…does not even have a shadow of a hypothesis for why…this…but he aims a communication-spell at him. A rarely-known variant, short range but unusually hard to intercept. 

<Explain?>

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<Code Purple Tiger>

(Which translates to "you and an unknown number of other important people are under mind control and I am loyal to your goals but suspect you may not be in your right mind.")

<Request unambiguous identification, Your Supremacy>

(Which is the wrong honorific to use but someone from another country might not be picking that up if she hasn't had time to Thoughtsense him.)

And, to some of his mages, <Confirm that this is the emperor> SHAPESHIFTER. (He's running the same scans, himself, to make sure that the sole compulsion on the Emperor is distinct one to Serve The Empire that nobody else has phrased quite the same.) Others are looking for Carissa, who might after all have gotten away before they burst in.

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.....

 

 

- all right, he– now that he's thinking through it he can...maybe see how they got there. And this is the Mage-Inquisitor's job, to be paranoid when no one else is remembering to be, so Bastran is in fact willing to cooperate. Check external shields on him, first, with mage-sight – the Inquisitors should have a Thoughtsenser inside a set of shields that block Thoughtsensing, and nobody else inside it – and then, with a brief mental wince and sight, he takes off his Thoughtsensing talisman, and - doesn't entirely lower, but opens a crack in, his native shields. It's the quickest way to check. 

 

(He is, to be clear, not removing any of his other talismans or shields. No one is going to be able to get in to modify his compulsions, or do anything else to his mind, and he's not opening his shields wide enough to allow a strong Thoughtsenser to stun him via a Mindspeech blow.) 

 

- he's thinking that he's so confused. It's not accurate to say he has no idea what's going on, and - there's a reason the Office of Inquiry has the authorization to run their investigations without keeping the Emperor updated. Altarrin explained those reasons to him, once - Altarrin approves of Mage-Inquisitor Kastil, he thinks, doesn't think like him or agree with him on all matters but is glad that he's the person doing his particular role - 

 

He's scared, but mostly not for his own safety. There hasn't been time for that. He's terrified for Altarrin, who might be dying, who just got attacked by the Inquisitors seconds after getting hit by every single countermeasure against invaders to the Emperor's suite– ...honestly he still doesn't have a hypothesis for what's going on, and it's belatedly occurring to him that it might not have been Altarrin, though it wasn't an illusion so that would require a second person in Velgarth with Caris' abilities.

...They might not have smashed down the door in time to see this, but Bastran is very sure that Caris was still next to him when the Gate-signature appeared. He holds up the memory of it. And the fact that he is pretty sure that Altarrin conveyed a message to him (memory of it presented) before, albeit a second or two before, the Gate. And then Caris vanished, presumably via some application of Golarion wizardry. 

 

(- Caris - he's afraid for his lover as well, but much less so than Altarrin, Caris has repeatedly demonstrated his competence it's so hot and also wasn't just nearly murdered - his top theory is that Altarrin's Gate out got thrown off course, somehow, and he's been lying nearly dead in the wilderness somewhere for the last two days, and somehow managed a Gate back - no, that still doesn't explain why he came to the Emperor's suite, he knew the countermeasures would potentially kill him, though in hindsight it's somehow not surprising that Altarrin might be able to get around the Gate-block...) 

 

 

The Emperor's compulsion is untouched. His thoughts are characteristic of him. 

He waits ten seconds to let them check, but he's kind of desperately impatient here. <Did you send a Healer for Altarrin - he was hurt, he might've been hurt even before he...Gated in here...> 

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Kastil is now fairly confident this is the Emperor.

He is not confident that the Emperor's memories of the precise sequence of events are valid, though that's mostly just because decades of service have told him that truthful eyewitness testimony is terrible. But while Caris might be in their cell, he might also be in the wind. 

<Dispatching now>, he says, giving the orders. They don't have a Healer ready to go, but they can get ahold of someone politically uninformed for the purpose. They'll have to imprison the healer afterwards, of course, until they can be sure he hasn't been impersonated, but the Emperor is right that sending one is the correct decision.

<Known items for a search?> He's aiming this at the Emperor's guards - any of them know the magical signature of Caris's equipment well enough to scry for it? He certainly doesn't.

And, back to the Emperor, kneeling, <Your majesty, I beg your pardon for this interruption. You have been seduced by a shapeshifter who privately claims to be from a nation worshipping a 'god of torture' who persuaded you to wear a mind-altering talisman and has details-unknown other mind-affecting magical abilities including Thoughtsensing. I suspect she may have suborned Altarrin and possibly killed him. I do not know who his impersonator was, though I suspect her or a confederate.>

One of the Inquisitors will, in fact, read the note, and forward it to Kastil.

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...The Emperor is more dubious of that.

It's a reasonable conclusion given a certain subset of the information. It's - not his conclusion. Though he could just be wrong. The Emperor is, in fact, holding some humility here – if he were subtly mind-controlled, it might feel like this from the inside. 

 

(At this point, if he has acknowledgement that his identity has been sufficiently unambiguously verified for the Code Purple Tiger protocol, he's going to put his talisman back. Years of being at court, being Emperor - and, significantly, working with Altarrin - have meant that he gets an itchy feeling when his mind is unshielded.)

<I did know he was from another world - and a country under the control of a torture god, he wanted to overthrow him. And also that he was Altarrin's - woman, wearing a different face. I...disagree with your assessment...but I imagine that's not very reassuring. ...I want a summary of your investigation> 

 

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(From the Emperor's guards: Caris....didn't visibly wear mage-artifacts? They are trying to be helpful but they have no idea what's going on here.) 

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She's not actually safe yet. A Thoughtsenser could find her, if they thought to scan up. She could Teleport for the location Altarrin gave her, except for how it's known to Altarrin who may now be in enemy hands. She can Teleport farther up into the sky, hide in a Rope Trick dangling at a height local magic can't reach, the only downside the distinct possibility that this is leaving Altarrin to die. 

- he'd come back, she wouldn't, they both agree that that's an acceptable trade if it's necessary -

- but on the other hand this was wildly out of context and she's not sure she can protect herself indefinitely without either Altarrin or the Empire on her side -

What minimizes the odds of her death in the next ten years is not necessarily what minimizes it in the next ten minutes. In fact, probably what minimizes her odds of death in the next ten years is having the ability to operate within the Empire, and having Altarrin, and most ways of getting that involve incurring some frankly unacceptably high risks right now. But that's the entire point of not being a coward, right, that you can walk into danger that minimizes long-term danger -


She keeps her notes and Carissa's important possessions which Caris can't wear in a Rope Trick in her shielded work room. Hopefully even if people search it (and she's sure some of them have tried) they aren't looking for extradimensional spaces tucked behind one of the filing cabinets. Of course, if this is a move against her, her shielded work room is almost certainly under surveillance, but - there's some stuff there she can't afford to leave behind. Second Dimension Door to the shielded work room. If they've set up the right alarms against her, that'll set those off, but she's here only long enough to dismiss her Rope Trick with a thought and scoop the Thoughtsensing talisman and a bag of spellsilver and all her notes off the floor - 


- and now, she thinks, local magic as far as she's witnessed it or been told of it just can't find her, at least not if she stays on the move. Altarrin's the only one who has gotten a close look at the headband. Invisibility doesn't have a local equivalent. Nondetection covers the traces mage-sight picks up off living things. Altarrin's talismans don't just make the mind shielded, but absent, like there's no one there to read. Of course, in the long run she'll need to ditch the talisman, though it's safer to have it than not while she's here in Thoughtsensing range. And if she casts spells those will be visible to mage-sight, so she'll have to be careful not to be in any mages' field of view (and remember that the spells might show to past-watching).

Detect Thoughts. Won't work on most mages but sometimes you get lucky.

And of course, you could still find her by literally throwing some flour in the air. 

Third Dimension Door to just outside the Emperor's chambers.

Gaseous Form.

 It has been just under a minute and she would like to know what's going on.

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What is going on is a conversation via magical messages! The inquisitorial mages have spread out somewhat, looking for her without success, but they're maintaining tight discipline so as to be hard to ambush.

<I can provide a full summary once you are safe, Your Majesty,> since getting him to Maximum Safety is the priority of the Guard, though some of them are of course also looking for intruders or other assassination attempts.

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From Carissa's perspective: 

 

The area outside the Emperor's suite is more occupied than usual, by a lot of un-Gifted guards and some mage-guards, but they're not the elite ones.

(Unfortunately one of them is going to notice the mage-energy signature of her Dimension Door. She doesn't have the faintest idea what to make of it; it's blurry and weird-looking. She's still going to check it with their colleague and then escalate it, but it's going to take a few minutes, the officers in charge are very busy.) 

Carissa can slip under the external door to the Emperor's suite in gaseous form. (She wouldn't be able to do this in the Emperor's bedroom, if the door were shut – it has an entirely separate ventilation system – but that's expensive.) 

 

The Emperor's suite is crawling with people. Most of them are mages. Most of them are shielded. 

(There are a handful of terrified un-Gifted servants, currently hiding in closets but not closets that block Detect Thoughts, whose minds are trivially readable but who can't tell her much. There was an alert they weren't told anything about?? The Inquisitors were definitely here. They're pretty sure that either the Emperor's guards or the Inquisitors smashed down the Emperor's door in response to presumably an alarm. Most of the conversation has been via the communication-spell, not spoken where they could overhear it.) 

 

Carissa's Detect Thoughts cannot get through on very many of the mages, and disproportionately on the relatively junior ones, but she gets a lucky break with one of the Emperor's personal guard. They're Gating the Emperor to safety, which is a relief, this whole situation feels very out of control. The Office of Inquisition is here (scary!) with a huge number of mages (scarier!!) because– actually he's incredibly confused about this entire situation, it started with the Emperor's new lover being suspected of some political crime but he has no idea how that's related to the alarm in the Emperor's suite from someone Gating in, which is supposed to be impossible and which Caris definitely cannot possibly do. He didn't actually see exactly who had Gated in, he was busy doing his job and shielding the Emperor, but there are rumors they were impersonating Altarrin, which is just bizarre. 

- he does think, in a brief fragment, that it's good that the Mage-Inquisitors are so talented at Gates, they got the imposter out of there before anything went even worse. Presumably to a secure cell in - wherever the secret base is, it obviously wouldn't be their public one. 

Anyway fortunately he's just gotten a comms-spell update that they're Gating the Emperor out to safety! This is very reassuring. 

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Altarrin's been taken by the ...Inquisitors, okay. She sort of imagined that if you didn't have a church you wouldn't have those. 

 

She can scry him and teleport to him, but she's never prepared two fifth-circle spells in a day and flatly can't pull it off today. So she could get to him but he'd have to get them out, and Infernal Healing might not be sufficient for that. She'd much rather follow someone to headquarters but it looks like they're being too cautious for that. 

 

They....probably won't let Altarrin die, if they haven't already killed him? That requires that they prefer him alive but will fail. Local healing isn't very good, but - Altarrin's pretty tough. 

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The Healer assigned to this is well trained, but junior - he was selected both for not knowing anything important and for being nearby, and while there exist more experienced Healers who meet the first criterion, they're in other provinces, not in the capital. (He was also, on some level, selected for being easily replaceable, a criterion which is harder to square with 'experienced.') He has not been informed who the patient is, but he can make some inferences. 

The patient: is in terrible shape! No one problem would be fatal by itself, but there are a lot of them. Severe backlash, bad enough by itself that he would likely be unconscious for another day and bedridden for a week. Various other damage that match with "nonlethal" measures used to incapacitate powerful mages.

The bigger problem is that - it looks like he was in bad shape before this, probably already deteriorating. He's bleeding internally, not fast but it's gradually weakening him. He has severe burns on his arms which look days old and like they haven't gotten any Healing attention in the meantime; they're dubiously bandaged in a way that did not especially keep them clean, and currently sloughing off large quantities of dead tissue. He's only ever seen this in textbooks before but it most closely matches the effect of accidental close-up exposure to one of the water-sterilization mage-artifacts. (This is an accident that occasionally happens to sewer workers, he's trained to recognize it but is not really sure what to do.) It's very precise so it...might have been deliberate, an attempt to stave off infection for a little while. It might even have worked, because the patient really should be dying of blood-poisoning at this point, but actually he's only in the early stages of it. Though the severe backlash won't help; he has no physical reserves right now. 

ALSO there are multiple poisons in his body! The junior Healer doesn't even recognize this one. Again, it...looks like none of them would be fatal in isolation, but it's a very bad combination with backlash and completely drained reserves, plus broken bones and internal injuries that need attention, plus an infection that is going to start getting out of control unless he focuses all of his efforts on it (neglecting the other problems) and maybe even then. 

Report: he...can buy time for them to get some other Healers here? He's not sure how much. Candlemarks, maybe, not days. Honestly he's not sure this patient is going to survive even with unlimited access to the best Healers in the Empire. 

He's not sure if they wanted to question him but it seems like this prisoner is unlikely to regain consciousness before he dies. 

 

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If Carissa hovers for a few minutes longer, she can get lucky and slip into a few more minds. This mage is one of the Inquisitors! He's unfortunately not thinking at all about the location of the secret prison where Altarrin or the imposter-Altarrin is being kept.

He is, however, triaging messages for Mage-Inquisitor Kastil! One of the other mages just got a communication spell about the Healer dispatched to look at the imposter. The Healer seems to think he's probably dying, though it's entirely possible this is also some kind of trick. He's thinking that the Mage-Inquisitor probably won't want to have someone mindread him, because of the mind-control powers, but if he does want answers he needs to decide in the next couple of candlemarks. ...Maybe won't get them anyway, it takes a very good Thoughtsenser to get anything off an unconscious casualty and even then you can't get a lot. 

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Oh.

 

 

 

Well, that's that, then. She can't exactly - Altarrin wouldn't want her to -

- breaking into the inquisition secret headquarters alone at fifth circle low on spell slots is just objectively stupid -

- sure, she can think of a plan but it is a stupid plan, and when the gods will tilt the table against you you can't risk that kind of thing -

 

 

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When the gods tilt the table against you you need to be not just hard to maneuver into mistakes, but reliable to never ever make certain kinds of mistakes. It's what Altarrin saw in dath ilan, isn't it, the logic that lets you chart a path in a world that knows how to warp you. 

 

- the Emperor, if he wasn't bluffing the whole time, just might be competent to -



She takes off flying.




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The Thoughtsensing amulet goes in a different Rope Trick at a lower altitude than the one Carissa is in, but she can see it from hers. She bets they can't use their search-spells across planes, but if they can, and they go after it, she can Teleport out in an instant.

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Scrying takes an hour. Sometimes the scry isn't even high-quality enough to have a conversation through. Altarrin may well be dead by then. She starts the spell anyway.

And an hour later, in the Emperor's definitely-secret refuge, a voice will speak in his ear.

"- it's Caris. I'm going to use a girl voice for professional communications, if that's all right with you, I think it'll make things a little less weird. If Altarrin isn't dead already, I can save him."

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That hour that was spent scrying was not, down in Jacona, wasted. Mage-Inquisitor Kastil spent most of it briefing the Emperor, going over the chain of events - newcomer appears, immediately (possibly) rushes up north near Vkandis's center of power and (definitely) has the Empire start new projects near the Empire's center of power, newcomer claims to be from a country ruled by a spectacularly powerful evil god who gives alien magical powers and maintains his own pocket dimension where the souls of all his followers are trapped, as well as to have magical powers that have nothing to do with Gifts but are totally unrelated to the ones the god gives we swear. Newcomer seduces Altarrin, talks him into devoting lots and lots of resources to increasing her magical power, then builds lots of powerful magical items that influence the minds of extremely powerful people in court, all the while winning control over many of Altarrin's top agents, who now feel loyal to her, as well as to end up with very loose Compulsions and give her a Thoughtsensing talisman. 

It is a known fact, he explains, that there exist Gifts that can bypass Compulsions while leaving them in place, altering the mind such that Compulsions cannot detect them. They are spectacularly rare and usually enter history when a god really, really wants to screw over the Empire. 

At that point, she then devised a previously unknown ability to change shape to seduce you, Your Majesty. This unknown method was invisible to all Gift senses and allowed her to do that completely successfully. You then became unusually attached, gave her absolute power over you (in bed), and at that point Altarrin no longer served her purposes and was disposed of by Vkandis and a minor conspiracy while investigating the mine.

(It is, Kastil grants, theoretically possible that Altarrin is now in his dungeons; that Vkandis and her demon-god are only loosely aligned, and Vkandis was willing to knock off one of the demon-god's pawns. This is why he was grudgingly willing on the healer's judgement to find a more experienced healer from the provinces to be brought in; that won't take long because of the Imperial Gate system, but it will still take time. But if Altarrin is in his dungeons, it is a subverted Altarrin willing to take spectacularly uncharacteristic risks for the sake of preventing the Office of Inquiry from catching up to Caris/sa, which he should not particularly be afraid of if Caris/sa is in fact innocent and he is in fact still loyal to the Empire.)

He is happy to go over all the evidence, and point out just how thoroughly it suggests that everyone is acting bizarrely out-of-character. This is not the sort of thing that happens when there's a new player on the board, this is the sort of thing that happens when someone who can mind control Altarrin has just done so, and is now trying to do this to the Emperor, and has probably succeeded. Kastil thinks that murdering Caris/sa will probably succeed (absent extreme interventions from the gods, like someone who looked exactly like Altarrin showing up just then), and that if they fail to do this, they are probably handing absolute power over the Empire to a demon-god, possibly handing absolute power over the Empire to Vkandis, and maybe just handing absolute power over the empire to a foreign adventurer. If Caris/sa escapes, then she/he can probably get life-extension magic (if Caris/sa got Altarrin, Caris/sa can get anyone) and take over some other empire and maybe even get more minions with his/her abilities and then they will be screwed. Maybe if Caris/sa hadn't tried to flee finding him/her innocent could have been a reasonable cost/benefit decision, but at this point with all the god-coincidences to preserve his/her life, the only actual chance the Empire has is if Caris/sa is just dead.

Meanwhile, the investigation has been continuing, albeit fruitlessly; anyone Carissa knows has been interrogated for potential hiding places, Kastil's agents have scried for the thoughtsensing talisman and failed to find it; this is Very Bad, since they were rather expecting to find it thrown in a ditch somewhere and this means that Caris/sa can still read thoughts, and a mundane search has taken place that has completely forgotten to check 'in a pocket dimension in midair', for some very odd reason. A mage has gotten close enough to Altarrin to try to tell what his compulsions looked like, and gotten about the correct response, and and immediately withdrawn to 24-hour quarantine while they figure out just how paranoid to be (beyond 'very').

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Well! That is in fact really convincing and terrifying and probably the Emperor should put significant weight on the hypothesis that his mind is untrustworthy and he should let Kastil, who hasn't interacted with and plausibly been compromised by Caris, make the necessary decisions. But Altarrin (and this was pre-mind-controlled Altarrin, who Bastran still thinks he can trust as much as he could trust anyone) used to advise him that his thinking on any given issue would often be less than entirely trustworthy – and that this wasn't a reason not to think.

So the Emperor spends most of that hour thinking.

The findings of the investigation do, in fact, sound pretty damning! Laid out in a neat timeline like that, Caris' actions and the various reactions to him are incredibly suspicious! In hindsight, he was putting kind of a lot of weight on Altarrin trusting him. And that in itself is at least a little suspect, though Bastran doesn't actually think it's uncharacteristic of him - the main thing is that he didn't take into account that Altarrin was dead – and under suspicious circumstances that arguably were Caris' fault. Whether or not he was involved in the human side of the plot that took place in the palace, which he could definitely have been if he really has arbitrary mind-editing powers, and plausibly even if he doesn't and just learned enough at court to steer the corrupt clerk in the right direction.

Even if not, though, Altarrin arranged the spellsilver mine for him. Caris would have easily had an opportunity to steer for it being in Vkandis' territory; the theory doesn't even require that he was actively working with Vkandis, or that his evil torture god was in communication with Vkandis and he had contact via that route; he could have gotten there just by accurately modeling Vkandis. Altarrin likely wouldn't have visited the mine in person at all, if it were a normal project, and he almost certainly wouldn't have gone underground, it's obviously risky and Altarrin isn't stupid. He would have done it because he was unusually invested, both in Caris' project and also in demonstrating his commitment – he seems to have badly wanted to earn Caris' trust, which in hindsight is itself not really in character for Altarrin, he's generally quite skilled at working with people who don't trust him, it generally works fine and is much simpler to use compulsions. It's not clear why Altarrin didn't use much tighter compulsions on Caris, and in hindsight (hindsight is so much clearer!) it's very suspicious that he didn't. That he gave Caris a Thoughtsensing talisman, and that he did it unilaterally, after a "heart-to-heart" with Caris that he never revealed the contents of. Ellitrea did arrange for Ketar to mindread Caris, but - with permission, so Caris was warned, and Ketar is...not hard to manipulate.

Looking at this from the Mage-Inquisitor's perspective, looking at the cold hard facts laid out for him, it - makes a lot of sense that Kastil sees a terrifying threat, and no reasonable option except to take the threat down.

 

(Honestly Bastran could kind of do without the part of the investigation that involved digging into his sex life. He's is really quite sure that, while it's entirely possible he was mind-controlled into...going faster than otherwise...it's not actually obvious to him that any of his choices were all that uncharacteristic. Caris didn't really need to mind-control him, just - be himself at him. It's definitely not the case that wanting to, uh, play games where he's powerless and given orders - can he emphasize to the Mage-Inquisitor that this was a game, he could have stopped it at any moment, he kept all his talismans on - is...new. Caris is just the first person to, well, get the hint and then be brave enough to do it, which presumably does have something to do with his otherworldly powers giving him a sense of security, but doesn't actually require them to claim that Caris is mind-controlling him. This is an intensely awkward conversation to be having with the very serious top investigator of his Office of Inquiry and Bastran is not sure he's ever felt this self-conscious and uncomfortable in his life.)

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His gut...isn't convinced. This is nowhere near the impression he had yesterday, and sure, there's a perfectly reasonable mind-control explanation for that, but he's still going to consider it from his own perspective, and then decide whether to throw those answers out. 

 

After the most recent round of events, at least, Kastil thinks the most likely explanation is that Caris is from another world. Bastran agrees with that. It's just - why would it make sense for Caris to devise an entire complicated false backstory, and then carefully stick to it? If Caris is trying to cover up miraculous Velgarth-godpowers, he could just as easily have claimed to have invented an entirely new way of manipulating magic, or to have learned it at a secret school that had been passing down the tradition; his magic works here in Velgarth just fine and should even be teachable to others, and that would have been no less plausible, and simpler. And he was mindread about it, and sure, you could posit that he can spoof Thoughtsensing or alter memories just as easily as he can change bodies - Kastil is positing that - but even so, surely that costs something, so why bother when it doesn't even decrease the suspicion? 

(Also, if the Velgarth gods could do this, why not centuries ago? It doesn't at all fit with their known capabilities.)

No. Caris is from another world, however bizarre a premise that is.

 

It's a good point, that Caris admitted himself to hail from a country under the rule of a torture god, and to have only recently renounced that god. It's also a good point that neither Altarrin nor the Emperor...reacted to that with nearly as much concern as, in hindsight, seems clearly warranted. And Caris admitted that the gods of his world could grant powers, ones that they think weren't even that dissimilar from wizardry.

...The thing is, though, he - didn't need to say that? If he can control minds on the level of controlling someone's direct sensory impressions or changing their memories, neither of which compulsions can do, then - why leave so many grounds for suspicion just lying around? Why arrange Altarrin's death without first making sure that everyone who might suspect him was taken care of? It feels like Kastil is positing both that Caris has, honestly, an absurd level of power - including the power to mind-control people Thoughtsensing him from a distance - and also made an incredibly obvious, blatant mistake. Altarrin has access to the Mage-Inquisitor. Kastil is now taking precautions to have his subordinates take over if he changes his mind in a way suspicious for mind-control, but if he hadn't been expecting that in particular... (Today's whole scenario could have been deliberately orchestrated. But, again, why? What goal would it achieve?)

 

- whatever Caris is working toward and whoever he's working for, it really looks like Caris made a mistake. It's a much more plausible mistake if Caris can't arbitrarily mind-control people, and was exactly as disoriented and lacking context as he appeared to the Thoughtsensers who read him.

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Kastil, faced with the evidence he has in the order he receives it, thinks Caris is probably an enemy to the Empire, and that the most likely version of that is that he serves Asmodeus.

 

Altarrin didn't think so. And the thing is, if Caris made a mistake on this level, that implies that his mind-control abilities, if they exist at all and were successfully being concealed - which the Emperor cannot in fact rule out, on further introspection it is suspicious just how quickly he fell for Caris - are probably limited. 

(Bastran is not, currently, thinking of Caris as a lover. This is absolutely not a situation where he should or can afford to be thinking with his dick – and he suspects Caris would judge him for it. Those feelings are boxed away; right now, he's reasoning about Caris as an otherwordly stranger with unknown capabilities, who convinced Altarrin to take his side.)

Maybe Caris was able to nudge Altarrin's impression of him, come across as more harmless and more - aligned with the Archmage-General's goals - then he really was, but Altarrin is very paranoid. If it were just that, would he really have committed so deeply just on the basis of a vague positive impression? It feels off. It feels very off that, on that basis, he would have flung himself through a Gate into a room where he would almost certainly die, just to buy Caris a few seconds of warning.

Kastil, of course, thinks this is further evidence for the mind-control hypothesis, and on the face of it, it does seem very very out of character. But is it? Or is there an explanation, a possible set of circumstances, for why the Altarrin he knew would sacrifice himself to get Caris out. 

Bastran has always known that Altarrin would give his life for the Empire, if that was the trade he was offered. Not everyone would, but Altarrin is someone who would do it of his own will, even if his compulsions weren't forcing the matter. 

Would he give his life, not just to protect the Empire from an existential threat, but to hold onto a valuable resource? ...Actually, yes, if it were valuable enough. If they're really in the world where Caris is mostly aligned with Altarrin's goals, and is their only hope for truly making headway against the gods.

 

 

But really the thing I'd do is a life after death, Caris had said to him. I hate it, that there isn't one. It feels like it's lurking over my shoulder, every day, every waking hour, that this is it, and it's so fragile... I'd figure it out.

It's not an incredibly convincing argument, certainly not one that will convince Kastil, to claim that Caris saying that is particularly strong evidence of Caris meaning it, even if Bastran is setting aside the strong mind-control theory and assuming weak mind control at best. Altarrin's people, when questioned, admitted that Caris was a very good actor, and skilled at controlling his thoughts while being read, and of course Kastil believes that Caris could have just made people see what he wanted them to see.

But to the Emperor's gut, it feels like it means something.

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Kastil is the most skilled investigator in the Empire, and has clearly put in his full effort, and this is the conclusion he came to. It's - evidence. The Emperor is not ignoring that. But he's still going to weigh it against his own impressions and alternate theories. 

 

Kastil is one of the best in the Empire at, well, being unshakably and relentlessly paranoid in the way you need to catch and block plots by the gods. Altarrin respected him for it. And Bastran leans on it, because he's always known that the paranoia required to rule here doesn't come as natively to him; Altarrin counseled him on that repeatedly.

But Altarrin also warned him of a different possible failure. When someone pushes paranoia as hard as possible, focuses entirely on preventing threats, then sometimes they look at true random events and see plots. Sometimes the gods might use that. It's a useful tool, if they can nudge the protectors of the Empire's gameboard into destroying some of its most valuable pieces themselves. Altarrin told him never to forget what he's protecting: the people of his Empire. His role isn't just to flout the gods, though often he'll need to, and often the measures required will be ruthless and costly and he has to be willing to bear that cost. But - the Emperor's true responsibility is holding together, day after day and year after year, the one place in the world where people can work together, invent and trade and build and study, feed their children and teach them to read.

Altarrin said it would be doing the gods' work for them, to compromise too much of that for the sake of being more definitely certain of averting threats. It's...like burning farms to deny an enemy army food, sometimes justified but something is lost.

The Emperor is not entirely sure he understands all of the...philosophy, that's really what it is...that Altarrin taught him. Certainly it's a nearly impossible balancing act, and– well, they do make compromises. The Healer in Isk who blew up a mine to save her brother from his sentence (Bastran looked up his crime; it was drunkenly participating in a brawl that accidentally killed two people; his sentence was five years) certainly didn't feel that the Imperial mandate was doing her local community any good.

Caris may not be what he seems to be. The Emperor is genuinely deeply unsure. The story where Caris serves Asmodeus and got Altarrin killed and was in the process of suborning the Emperor in order to carry out some horrible plan unopposed, holds together almost as well as the story he believed yesterday. Kastil isn't wrong that it would be the biggest threat the Empire has ever faced, worth burning a vast quantity of metaphorical crops to avert.

 

Of course, in this case it's not crops, or any tangible or intangible resource the Empire already possessed. The resource they would be giving up, by going with Kastil's suggestion and throwing everything at murdering Caris, is - their only chance at the better, wealthier, safer future that might be in reach if Altarrin was right. 

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Caris said he had decided to overthrow Asmodeus before he unexpectedly landed in another world, and seems to have made a convincing case to Altarrin. Which is a convenient change of heart for him to be claiming, of course, but - not implausible? Worshipping a god who will torture you after you die just sounds incredibly unappealing, if you think you have other options - it seems like a pattern that could only hold in Cheliax because Asmodeus was very powerful and very much in control of their lives and their information sources, and had ensured they didn't have other options. If anything, it feels more implausible that Caris would continue to serve Asmodeus, and presumably expect to be tortured after his death, once he had escaped his god's yoke. 

Kastil's argument, of course, was that Caris had actually received his magic from Asmodeus, which would definitely imply some loyalty even in another world, but - well, for one, that relies on assuming that Asmodeus can reach them here, which seems not at all obvious, and - honestly, like something someone should have noticed before now. And Altarrin didn't seem to think so - that in itself could be mind-control - but Altarrin also didn't prioritize a way to reach Caris' world. He wouldn't even have needed much convincing, and surely the Caris who works for Asmodeus would have wanted access to more of Asmodeus' worshippers and their impossible powers.

Again, if Caris was hiding this, why tell them the gods could grant reliable magical abilities like that at all? It's just...leaving around suspicious clues, in a way that seems like an obvious mistake. Two, why say it could be taught??? Caris could have just...not given them that easily testable claim. It would have made him appear more indispensable, even.

 

 

Anyway. If Caris meant what he said, both about Asmodeus and about his desire to help them fight their world's gods and fix the world and give dead souls a place to go (what an ambition!), then– then Kastil is doing the gods' work for them, right now. And...that's a story that also holds together kind of upsettingly well?

One could argue that, even leaving aside mind control, Altarrin and Bastran learned things about Carissa is a suspiciously convenient order. But Kastil encountered information in almost the worst possible order.

- and was in Isk, in a region they had already just observed was within Vkandis' reach. And Kastil wouldn't even need very much nudging; he has firm expectations that anything weird is a dangerous god-plot against the Empire. He might be right, he's been right a lot of times before...

 

 

But - (and it's so hard to think about, Altarrin would tell him to put numbers on it but how do you put numbers on something so out of context) - but there's a tradeoff there, and the tradeoff is that they can avert a threat that may or may not exist, potentially at the cost of burning down their first and probably only change to really actually fix things. It's not enough, to only avoid ever losing a battle. It's important, no doubt of that, and it's why they have an Office of Inquisition - they're much more aimed at not losing in games against the gods than at decisively winning them.

The Emperor's mandate is broader than that, and - sometimes you have to gamble to win. Usually you don't have to gamble your entire Empire, but.

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- of course, even if he does decide to trust his own gut feeling and theories over Kastil's, maybe it's moot. It doesn't sound like they've made progress on tracking Caris. He might be a thousand miles away, by now; it would be the smart thing to do, and probably what Altarrin would want him to do. He might just...not have another chance to seize the opportunity for working together, regardless of whether that would in theory be the right gamble to make. He's upset about that. It feels like such a waste. It feels like Altarrin could have done better...

(He is genuinely not having any feelings about the fact that he may have lost his lover, who was really hot and who he was, indeed, already attached to. It's not relevant to this decision. ...He is at least not having any feelings about it where he's consciously aware of them.) 

 

 

He doesn't actually have an answer, yet, but - it's got to be evidence of some kind, right, what move Caris decides to make next.

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what? That is - not supposed to be possible - though he's oddly not surprised, that Caris is pulling out another impossible ability, and then a second new impossible ability implied by the fact that he thinks he can save Altarrin.

 

(Altarrin is alive. Barely. The Healers are trying very hard but he's deteriorated significantly. He's not imminently dying unless they get very unlucky, but only because a very stubborn Healer can keep a patient's heart beating for a pretty long time even at the point when they are definitely doomed. It's just not normally something you would waste effort on. ...And Bastran is very aware that, when one is considering the hypothesis that there is a god-plot at work here and it's working via Kastil with the goal of taking Caris and Altarrin down, it would be much less surprising than usual if they run into the worst luck.)

 

Using a girl does NOT REALLY MAKE IT LESS WEIRD It - does help with the compartmentalization. Box, feelings, stay over there.

Also, urgent communication-spell to his lead guard! <Some kind of spell-contact from Caris. See if you can track it. ...Do not disrupt it, don't let Kastil disrupt it, that is an Imperial order. ...You can Thoughtsense me if you want to watch for mind control but do not intervene>

 

And he clears his throat. "...Uh, can you hear me? He's alive. He's - not going to make it - but I think he can hang on for a little longer. What are you intending to do."

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"I'm hoping we can negotiate an arrangement that lets me save him without the gods using your empire to kill me. - I can explain the evidence-from-your-perspective that they're trying to do that, but if you won't trust it coming from me then I'll save my breath."

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(It's pretty easy once they're looking to find the unfamiliar scrying-sensor floating above the Emperor's head.)

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Great! Where does it...go. Do any of the techniques for tracking communication-spells work. 

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"I already had that as a theory, actually, the thing I could use is your arguments for why it's more likely, given the evidence we have, than the theory that you work for Asmodeus and are mind-controlling Altarrin and myself. - Though if you're willing to surrender somewhere neutral and accept some compulsions, we can bring you to Altarrin first and I give you my word that you won't be harmed and will hear you out once he's stable. I just, I don't really want to wait..." 

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"Whether you can make promises is one of the things in question, on two levels: firstly whether your word actually binds you, even if a sudden flurry of subsequent events causes you to be convinced I betrayed mine and that the whole Empire is at stake or whatever, and secondly whether you have enough control over the actions of factions in your empire that your word would be sufficient if you kept it.

But regardless, no. Something would go tragically unluckily wrong and I would die in your custody. Altarrin thought it was worth dying to prevent that, and I'm not going to go reverse his judgment; I think he was right. I'm willing to at some point in the future negotiate my surrender; it's not what I'm negotiating right now. 

 

If I worked for Asmodeus -" something changes in her tone, though only slightly. "If I worked for Asmodeus and had managed to subvert Altarrin I'd have fled the Empire with him the first night, to conquer some smaller countries that are much easier to work in than the Empire if you don't have to worry about the opposition of the gods. I'd come back to maybe seduce you and seize the Empire only once Asmodeus had a solid foothold and an established Church elsewhere; He wouldn't have me bet His access to this planet on my ability to play court politics in a foreign country, and I wouldn't need to. The reason I need to work in the Empire is because the gods are trying to kill me. The reason I haven't fled to the other continent already is that - 

- I'm hard to kill. I'm very hard to kill. By all rights, I would be able to do my work there uninterrupted. But I've read the Empire's histories. A lot of people who should have been very hard to kill die when the gods decide they're too dangerous. If the gods were on my side I would not still be hanging around trying to salvage things here. If the gods were merely indifferent to me I would not still be hanging around trying to salvage things here. But they're trying to kill me, and I give them about a forty percent chance of succeeding if I don't have Altarrin and they do have the Empire trying to help them do it."

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Mage-Inquisitor Kastil is not going to interrupt this conversation. He is absolutely going to have his mages try to track Caris/sa so they can murder him/her if they get the chance. (He is not looped in on the details of this conversation, and indeed thinks that he should not be looped in on the details of this conversation; if someone who unfortunately has to be wants to summarize it to him, that is acceptable.)

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They're trying to trace the scry!! It, uh, does have another end, though it looks like it might be on....another plane?

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Sigh. 

 

"In...that scenario...I understand your concerns. And I - appreciate it, that you're willing to consider a future surrender; I think that's a step that we need, to navigate out of this. And you're right that I don't trust you, right now. I am putting more than fifty-fifty odds that you're telling the truth, but you want to be a lot more sure of that when the downside risk is letting Asmodeus puppet your Empire, right? There's evidence that would make me lean more in that direction, probably even if it's not true but our gods are trying to get you killed. - I would under ordinary circumstances be pretty sure I can keep you safe. At the very least, I can arrange it so anyone you could plausibly come into contact with is under a top-ranked compulsion to obey my direct orders. You've got a point that if the gods are trying hard enough, they could arrange for the building to accidentally catch fire while you're under compulsions not to leave.

 

"I need a plan that - doesn't make our situation drastically worse if we're in the bad scenario. Do you have a better idea." 

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....Wow. 

Altarrin could figure that out, probably? In, uh, a few days, and also there is sort of a problem with that plan. 

 

(Bastran has already discreetly passed an order that the Healers should try even more heroically to keep their patient alive as long as possible, however futile it seems. There...might be a plan.) 

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" - okay, if I worked for actual Asmodeus then no, there's no plan that doesn't make your situation worse, you already lost, but Asmodeus isn't pinned down for you the way He's pinned down for me, anything I say about what Asmodeus is capable of and why it means you lose is new and therefore useless.

If I worked for - a hostile entity in the range of capabilities consistent with what you know about Asmodeus, discarding all the worlds where you already lost, then - you need to start training your own wizards, so you can start developing wards against my magic, etcetera. I can trade you introductory wizardry for Altarrin but one, that looks extremely messy to the gods and they're going to be steering hard against a deal like that going through, and two I'm not sure you can verify it in time. I was actually thinking about leveraging how messy introducing wizardry looks to the gods in the opposite direction, have it as a plan if they let Altarrin die so it looks less messy to them to let us work this out. 

There may be ways to let me heal Altarrin that don't meaningfully improve my position at all - that is, they don't let me keep him - and make me expend some resources and show off some capabilities, and I'm open to doing one of those. For example, if you can verify that my compulsion set won't let me remove his, you can give him to me compulsioned and I can't make him useful. Or if you want to give him some kind of fast-acting poison I don't have the antidote for, then I'll have to heal him and give him back if I want him to live. Or if you have a way to block his Gifts.

The problem is that I think Altarrin probably prefers being dead to being picked apart sufficiently meticulously by your inquisition, because he has some plans to fight the gods which are and should remain tightly held state secrets and the more people who learn them, the worse. I'll agree to give him back on your word that either no one interrogates him beyond confirming his identity or that everyone who learns the contents of his mind gives you an answer about his loyalty from a pre-selected set and is then put to death on the spot."

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The Emperor is following along - right, that matches what he was thinking, that in the worst-case worlds that Kastil is most afraid of, it doesn't actually matter what they do from here, they've lost. 

- Kastil is going to hate those plans, he won't trust that Caris can't spoof anyone reading his compulsions, or mind-control them into thinking they saw what they were supposed to. Kastil is going to hate any plan that saves Altarrin, and - it's not just Altarrin, really, it's the possibility of cooperation (and learning wizardry), not to mention retaining some degree of control. There are plenty of not-worst-case-but-still-bad scenarios – Caris is a Velgarth native with a Wild Gift, Caris is loyal to Asmodeus but he can't reach her here and her magic is her own, Caris is from another world and loyal to no one and will totally take over the Empire if given an opening – where having Caris working within the Empire seems...better than not. 

 

 

- and then he freezes. 

 

"...I'm sure you realize that you're giving me some serious doubts about Altarrin's loyalty to the Empire." Words he absolutely never thought he would say, but, well, a lot of unexpected unprecedented things are happening right now. "I'm not comfortable negotiating an agreement where he tells no one, since it might be relevant to what the gods are going to try to do to my Empire. ...I am willing to negotiate an agreement where he tells me, and I'm under a compulsion not to tell anyone else. He can place the compulsion himself. I think he trusts me that far - I guess you have less information on that, I'm not sure what he told you..."

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"If you learned last week that Altarrin had secrets he judged it wiser not to tell you because that was more footprint for the gods to see, would it have caused you to question his loyalty to the Empire? Only tells you and you're under a compulsion he can place is -" She pauses for ten of her precious seconds to actually think. Altarrin would've told the Emperor if it was better for the Emperor to know. But Altarrin does like and trust the Emperor, and so does Carissa, he's - groping towards the things he'd need to understand - and Altarrin being dead means substantial chance of Carissa being dead - and he must have realized he was going to be captured, considered it possible he'd be captured alive, considered that an acceptable risk -

"- yeah, all right, I'll agree to that."

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....Nod. "That's– good." 

 

The plans that Caris proposed have the unfortunate downside that Caris proposed them, and so - if they're in one of the bad scenarios - presumably selected to have elements he can work around. And the fast-acting poison idea is a non-starter, that sounds like exactly the sort of thing where the gods could cause a fumble and then Altarrin dies anyway (not to mention he doesn't, actually, know the limitations of Caris' healing magic, maybe it cures poison - or delays the effects long enough to obtain an antidote elsewhere - 

 

"...I have an idea. I think it doesn't require trusting anyone except for me but I don't see around it requiring trusting me." Kastil is going to hate it because it involves putting himself at risk. "We can workshop it if you're worried it does leave opportunities for godinterference, but - I wouldn't be bound by compulsions not to harm you, you would be - relying on believing that my incentive here is to keep you and Altarrin alive. Can you work with that." 

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"Might be workable, go on."

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He takes a deep breath. 

 

 

"I give you a - not an exact location but a range, maybe of a mile or so. It'll be far away from anyone else and no one else will know the location I chose - I can order everyone out and raise shields so I'm unscryable from outside this room while I tell you, I think that still only requires that you trust me and not my guards." Kastil will hate it but if it saves Altarrin Kastil can deal - honestly it's very plausible that Bastran is going to need to arrest him, if he wants to do this, and he feels...kind of terrible about that, actually...but. If he's sure enough that he's right - and they can sort it out later, he's not going to have his top Mage-Inquisitor executed for doing an excellent and thorough investigation... 

"I go alone to where Altarrin is - I'm not telling you where and I don't know if you can read my mind from there but I don't know it yet. I order everyone else out– uh, I would feel better about this part if you were comfortable with a heavily compulsioned Healer accompanying Altarrin, he's very unstable, but that's bringing in another person. ...I roll some dice to select a random place in the range I gave you. I drop him through a Gate, it'll be up for less than two seconds – that's the point of greatest additional risk to me if you're powerful and evil so I'd appreciate suggestions to mitigate it further." 

He rubs his shoulder; he's tense. "I scry the location. If you move, if you do any magic other than the your healing spell - I don't know what it looks like so, really, it's if you do more than one spell - in five seconds I drop a mage on top of you with orders to Final Strike. - I intend to use some discretion, if it seems really clear you're, I don't know, defending Altarrin from the gods striking a tree with lightning and knocking it onto you...but you should try not to push it."

He sighs. "...The issue is that you could, theoretically, instantaneously-transport him out first and then heal him from a location we don't know, but if the spell is at all hard on people then I think it's quite likely he wouldn't survive it. And I intend to take measures such that Altarrin is trackable for us. I'm not going to tell you the details. I'll take suggestions on other precautions for that. ...Anyway, the plan is that you would stay there, with Altarrin, until you've gotten him oriented and he's ready to be picked up, at which point you can contact me directly. And, if you wish, leave, but I think this will go better if we negotiate something where you're comfortable accompanying him. - He's under very restrictive compulsions but they should let him follow simple instructions, as long as he's not using his mage-gift, and answer direct questions. I don't actually know if you could remove them but it would probably show up as a second spell. I would appreciate it if you don't try." 

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"Proposed modifications so I don't have to trust you as much: I pick the Gate location. You don't have to personally do the Gate, so you're safer, but I'll pick a location where I can protect myself from anyone dropped through it, and it's somewhere where it'd be hard for you to lay an ambush. Altarrin is still trackable, via whatever means you planned to use to make him that way; I still have a lot to lose if I try to run off with him. I heal him and leave immediately. I contact you in a few days to negotiate my surrender, which is going to be sufficiently complicated I don't want to roll it into this."

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"...I was expecting you wouldn't want another mage involved, but I do trust my people and can ensure it with compulsions - and the location leaking is less risky if you won't be there long. I'm concerned that Altarrin may - react badly to finding himself in our custody, if you aren't able to explain in person - I suppose you could write a letter for him - less verifiable but minimizes the risk to you. The idea is that we collect him after you leave?" 

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"Yes. Unfortunately, the mechanism by which I will ensure nothing that comes through the Gate can hurt me means that he won't really be able to have a Healer along, but you'll be scrying, and able to send someone in as soon as I leave. I would rather stay with him, but not in a location of your choosing or one you can Final Strike at any time. 

I'll be observing for the next few days to, among other things, see if you keep your word regarding who learns Altarrin's secrets, and I'll contact you and him to negotiate my surrender once I'm satisfied of that."

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...He doesn't like it. They're back to the problem where Caris is the one who proposed the conditions, and so in the bad scenarios it's almost certainly a trap. 

 

If not... If he's right, or honestly even if he's even mostly right and Caris will absolutely betray them given the opportunity but will follow incentives - he thinks this will work. And get them Altarrin, even if under a lot of conditions not to tamper with him. 

If he's wrong, then - he doesn't think they instantly lose, at least not in the worlds where they haven't approximately lost already. They'll still have options. They'll be able to track Altarrin, probably, and if his location is another goddamned plane then they will figure out how to Gate there anyway - he can have the best researchers in the Empire on it - and maybe Caris can alter compulsions, has already gotten rid of the standard ones that forbid altering someone else's, but he's not, actually, putting incredibly high odds on that? ...Numbers. Guess a number. One in...ten? Not higher, he still thinks that Caris made some significant mistakes and if he could have arbitrarily changed around everyone's compulsions that would have...looked different. 

 

So. In most of the realistic situations: Caris can get Altarrin, if he wants, but not necessarily a very useful Altarrin. Caris cannot cause (any more of) an enormous disaster in the palace, probably. Can't get the Emperor, probably. Will actually be more trackable than before, if he hangs onto Altarrin, which seems like a thing he would have to do in order to get the full benefit of an Altarrin. 

- and if it goes exactly as specified, that's a lot of information. 

 

"Taken under consideration, at least. I will want to know where you are Gating to, and run it by my advisors. How long does your spell for speaking to me last?" 

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"I worry you'll track it if I leave it up all day." It has less than a minute left and Carissa doesn't like revealing her capabilities. "How about, if you decide to accept the offer, you get a mage who is very good at unusually-anchored Gates to Altarrin's location, and in two candlemarks I will contact you again with the precise Gate-location. Altarrin goes through in thirty seconds or I'll get nervous and run away. If you decide not to take the deal, that's fine, just don't send him. If you send him but take more than thirty seconds about it, I'll be gone and he'll die. Anyone else you drop dies.

I - appreciate your willingness to think about whether this can be made to work. I really do want to come back, if we can figure this mess out."

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This could theoretically put the mage at risk, but - there should only be a window of seconds for Caris to act, and it would conflict with healing Altarrin - blasting a Gate would get him too - 

 

"- I am concerned Altarrin may not survive another two candlemarks. I can arrange this in a candlemark, probably, if I - decide to go through with it at all." 

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"Fine. One candlemark. Get a very competent mage because the instructions will be complicated and I won't wait around."

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"I will be available.

 

 

- it would be premature to thank you, when for all I know you are planning to betray us horribly, but." 

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"There's a world here where we're both trying, and we can appreciate each other in that one while being suspicious it's not the real one. Good luck. If you end up deciding not to do it I won't hold it against you and I'll keep trying to work this out, though I'll have less to look at in determining whether it's yet safe"

 

And the scry ends. Hopefully he'll think she did that on purpose.

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(The spell winks out. They have not made really any more headway in finding the other plane it's in. ...They've successfully determined it's not the Void and doesn't seem to be any of the Elemental Planes either.) 

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He sighs. Sits down. His hands are trying to shake; he doesn't let them. 

 

Communication-spell to his lead guard, who has presumably been hearing the whole conversation. <I want to run something by Mage-Inquisitor Kastil. He's not going to like it, but I - do need his counsel. If he's unwilling to speak to me directly for mind-control reasons, I can dictate to one of you and you can write a summary for him>

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The odds that the Emperor is infectious are negligible. He'll come talk to the Emperor.

<Your majesty desires my counsel?>

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<Yes.> 

What's the best order to do this in - he doesn't want to open with the plan itself, Kastil will tell him absolutely not and then he'll have to arrest his top investigator and the fact that he has the power to do this in no way means that he's happy about the prospect. 

 

<I'm not sure anything I say can change your mind, since your hypothesis here is mind-control, but - I'll say some of my considerations. I think we're relatively unlikely to be in the worst-case-scenario world – where Caris is a cultist of Asmodeus, Asmodeus can actually reach us here, and Carissa's powers include arbitrary mind-control rather than...nonmagical skills like being very persuasive and good at lying and controlling his thoughts, which I won't deny he is. If we're in that scenario I think we've already lost, and it doesn't matter what we do.> 

<Caris might have been a cultist of Asmodeus, but the magic is arcane wizardry and Asmodeus can't reach us, which seems more likely because I suspect Asmodeus would have already conquered us, and not politely. And in that case, honestly, I have no idea why anyone would keep worshipping him - it's one thing when you're in his country under his power and have no choice, but once you've escaped his control...> Shrug. <We can break that down into, either he has undetectable arbitrary mind-control or he doesn't. I think he probably doesn't, or he would have avoided nearly being captured. Caris without access to Asmodeus and with only some mind-control is probably someone we can beat.> 

<I think you've been putting a lot of weight on the claim that Caris is working with our gods, who are opposed to the Eastern Empire. I don't think so. Partly for illegible gut feelings that I don't expect you to take seriously in the slightest, but - he wants to save Altarrin. He's willing to take on some risk to himself, to do that – er, I'll get to that in a moment, I'm not done, but point is, I don't think he wanted Altarrin dead.> 

 

Sigh. This is the hardest part. 

<I'm worried this could be a godplot in the opposite direction. If I start from the premise that neither I nor Altarrin were mind-controlled – skillfully finessed, maybe, I'm not claiming Caris is honest, but not directly altered – then it looks an awful lot like Vkandis took Altarrin down, and then found a way to leverage that into having us take Caris down for him. I think it's - a very plausible alternate story - that the gods want Caris dead for exactly the reasons they want Altarrin dead, because he's disruptive and ambitious.> 

<And, sure, maybe he wants to take over the Empire. But I think we can work with that, if he's not serving any gods and I'm currently at least 90% confident he isn't. Half of my ministers would betray me and take my place if they saw an opening and their compulsions let them think about it.> 

<...I know your job is to prevent threats from the gods, and nothing else. I know why that takes someone as paranoid as you. You've done it admirably. But - as Emperor, it's not only my job to hold off the gods. I also need to be able to see, and take, opportunities that will help the Empire flourish. Even if I'm not certain, and it's a gamble. ...I wouldn't consider it if it was a binary choice between "Caris is genuinely entirely on Altarrin's side" and "Caris is the puppet of a torture god" but I think most of the bad scenarios are - less all-or-nothing than that. And it's worth taking some measured risk to get information.> 

 

 

He lets out his breath. 

<Tell me what considerations I'm missing. Actual facts or logical steps I forgot to include, I mean, not just - weighting the risks and the benefits differently> 

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<First, most gods' powers are based on a solid geographical core of worshippers and temples, and they are weaker outside of this area. If Asmodeus is missing that, he might be almost completely blind, with Caris having only the powers already given to him - until such time as Caris's power is secure, and he can begin establishing a cult.>

<Second, humans regularly worship gods who horrifically mistreat them, as Taymyrr demonstrates, even once they have the power to cease to do so. These attachments are bizarre and insane, Your Majesty, but they are not new.>

<Third, his powers over minds almost certainly have limitations we do not know - but we cannot tell what they are, and the gods will guide us into guessing wrong. So will he.>

<Fourth, he does not need to be working with our gods directly to be their pawn. My lowest-crisis-threat scenario remains that he is simply an adventurer with a wild talent who has taken control over you and Altarrin, whom the gods aimed at the empire because - like most foreign adventurers - he would be a disastrous ruler.>d. 

<I do recognize the model by which they want Caris dead because he is a valuable resource for the empire, but, Your Majesty, the Empire survived without him before, and it can survive without him in the future. The Empire is expanding. Our people are prosperous. The chief threats to us are all internal; they are threats from our misusing our resources, and becoming slaves to a god or falling into civil war. The vision of the First Emperor remains intact. The Empire is not failing, and we do not need to take desperate risks to preserve it.>

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<Noted.> He has, in fact, literally been taking notes. <I appreciate your advice. You are dismissed.> 

 

...And he'll pass on the order immediately to find an Adept mage with advanced Gate-skill – they need to be able to cast a solo, thresholdness Gate with an 'unusual' search destination - a magic item, he's guessing, and if he's right they may need to be able to do it off a description and Thoughtsensed impression, because they plausibly haven't seen it before - and they need to do this in ten seconds. (Caris gave him thirty but he's being conservative.) They also need to be willing to be subject to more thorough than usual compulsions, and quarantined afterward; the facilities will be comfortable and it's probably temporary. He won't deny that this is a risky mission. He thinks it's more than worth it. 

(The mage does not, technically, need to agree to the mission. He wants a shortlist of all the mages who could do this, whether or not they want to. But...it's a compromise, and one he doesn't necessarily have to make. 

He's been thinking a lot about compromises, lately.) 

 

All right. He is giving himself thirty minutes to tear this plan apart from every angle, and then he's making a decision, one way or another. 

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All right. How much weight does he want to put on Kastil's warnings? 

 

Gods less powerful outside their realm: true. But from here they're not, in fact, at a point where they're handing the reins of the Empire to Caris. If he does accept his surrender, he's going to send Kastil and his team to a secure location first, and give them a set of parameters for which they would plan a coup. (And discuss this with Caris, obviously, that will need to be part of their later negotiations. He suspects Caris will find it reasonable, to have a set of guidelines for not alarming his backup team.) 

Humans worship gods when it's a terrible idea: sooort of? He's actually pretty sure that the religion of Atet persists because it's convenient for those in power – it adds a patina of divine approval to their authority, and promises them a lovely afterlife. Every god has their fanatic worshippers, but at a rough guess it's - one in a thousand, and certainly that's bad enough when aimed well, but he vaguely suspects if they weren't fanatics for Vkandis or Atet, they would be fanatics for purely mundane things like expanding their kingdom. The people who don't personally benefit from the system...do flee, when they can. Caris said that Cheliax had to take measures to maintain leverage over its wizards who could otherwise just leave... 

Pointing out that they can't really put bounds on Caris' mind-powers: true. He doesn't think it was load-bearing in his argument, though. 

People can be accidental pawns for gods unknowingly, without worshipping them or choosing an alliance: yes, but that's a much weaker point, and one that applies just as well to Kastil himself. 

The Empire isn't failing, is doing fine, and so minimizing losses just is more important than maximizing gains: ...it's true that there's always an asymmetry there. Though. The Empire isn't failing, but is it succeeding?

(Compromises...) 

He's suddenly very sure that Altarrin doesn't see the Empire as succeeding. Altarrin sees its strengths, but also the endless costs they pay, in lives and in the wellbeing of their citizens, to hold it together, and - it's not enough. He suddenly feels like Altarrin, for all that he supports Kastil in his caution, has spent his entire life fighting back against some kind of reflexive slide toward more and more paranoia, more and more compromises. 

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...which is a thought that is definitely suspect for being the result of mind-control. 

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He turns it over and over in his mind. Find other angles. Try pulling out certain pieces, to see if he's overweighting them - is he biased by wanting to see Altarrin again? By his curiosity about Golarion, questions he'll never learn the answers to if they kill Caris first? By the fact that it would be embarrassing to admit he let himself get mind-controlled by a foreign agent? 

(He's really quite sure that he's not weighing the sex, as part of this. ...Actually, as a pre-commitment and to demonstrate that, possibly sex with Caris should be off the table until and if Kastil admits that working with him does not appear to be a disaster. This thought is not even particularly painful, which means his feelings must be doing a good job of staying in their box all the way over there.)  

 

If he declines, in the world where Caris is their enemy, then in some ways their position is worse? He doesn't expect the Office of Inquiry to be able to find a Caris who doesn't want to be found. With no Altarrin to return to, and with his relationship with the Emperor burned, he'll probably - leave, maybe go to the other continent, and do exactly what he was going to do anyway.

(Caris said he put 40% odds on dying, that way. But in the scenarios where Caris is the most significant threat, that would have been a lie for sympathy.) 

 

Deciding either way is terrifying, but not deciding is - actually just deciding on no. Their window is closing soon. 

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He makes a decision. 

 

(He is miserable about it but nobody has to know.) 

He gives the Imperial order via private comms-spell to all the members of his guard, and he goes to arrest Mage-Inquisitor Kastil. He extremely doubts Kastil will resist - he expects Kastil to give him a sad resigned look and say he's not surprised but he hoped they still had a chance, or something like that - and he owes it to Kastil to do this face to face. 

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Kastil nods politely. <As you command, Your Majesty,> he says, a sad resigned look on his face, and will go quietly with his guards without making any trouble. Hopefully it will be one of the prisons where he can catch up on his reading time.

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It's about what he expected. 

(He's worried something will go wrong, and it will be via Kastil somehow, but - damn it, he needs Altarrin to think about how to protect against that.) 

 

He gets a consenting Adept mage. Gives them the briefing on what he knows so far, which is not a lot. Discusses with the Mage-Inquisitor who he emergency-appointed to temporarily replace Kastil he is very very clear about the temporary part. 

They're really reluctant to reveal the location of the headquarters and prison area to anyone who might even plausibly come into contact with Caris. Bastran will stay here and not be told. The mage doing their fancy Gate will be placed under a compulsion not to try to trace the location via studying any of the Gate structures (it's very hard to do that but it's not impossible and he's excellent at this), and a very thorough suite of other compulsions including against doing any magic except the Gate on demand and defensive shielding if it becomes necessary, and then Gated over by someone else, blindfolded and ordered not to use mage-sight until they're in Altarrin's cell, which he'll enter after they have their instructions. Just in case Altarrin is an imposter, somehow, and totally faking the thing where the Healers are just barely keeping him alive. 

 

This takes, like, ten minutes. Twenty minutes to go. Bastran paces, and worries, and resists the urge to ask for updates on Altarrin's condition every thirty seconds. 

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(Altarrin is much, much worse than he was when they captured him! The infection is raging in his blood and various organs are trying to shut down in protest, which is making it very hard to coax his body to clear the supposedly-nonlethal poisons and they're sitting around causing various new and exciting kinds of damage. Also his blood isn't clotting right and various spots of internal bleeding they had previously had under control are not super under control any more. His heart is valiantly trying to keep some blood moving, and they can help that out with constant application of kind of a lot of Healing-energy - even with two of them they probably cannot keep this up for more than another candlemark - but he's stopped breathing on his own a couple of times. They can poke his body into remembering to do that. It'll probably keep working for a while longer.) 

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He's terrified. 

 

 

He waits for Caris to contact him, and desperately hopes that Caris hasn't done what would honestly be the reasonable thing, the thing Altarrin would want in the scenario where he's telling the truth, and fled rather than try to salvage this. 

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Carissa has certainly contemplated it. But -

- maybe ten, fifteen percent chance she miscalculated and they'll be able and willing to kill her while she attempts this - the obvious way would be forcing Altarrin to Final Strike right when she heals him. And if that doesn't happen, and he's alive, then she thinks her best-guess forty percent chance of dying from trying to do this on her own with the gods conspiring to make sure the Empire's assassins learn her location until Altarrin's next life finds her is at least halved.

 

She spends the time preparing spells. Like a lot of people she leaves many of her slots open in the morning; you never know what you'll need. Though the spells she's actually using here are very standard, simple ones. The point isn't to throw around a lot of power; it's to do things that as far as she can tell the local magic systems can't do. 

 

When it's been most of a candlemark, she's ready.  She dismisses the Rope Trick she's been sitting in. Goes down to the other Rope Trick that has the Thoughtsensing talisman in it. She ties it and glues it to the base of the Rope Trick's rope. Very firmly. It falling would be a very stupid way for this to fail and so the kind of thing the gods would try.

Prepares a Sending. "Thirty seconds. I want a horizontal gate under Altarrin, also horizontal on Gate target: Altarrin’s Thoughtsensing talisman he gave me. Gate to the talisman. Now."

Fly, as she jumps out of the Rope Trick. She needs to get clear of the Gate location in case they Final Strike it.

Invisibility, while already flying, so for a second people on the ground below might see a flash of something in the air. They're going to see more in a bit. Unless the Emperor changed his mind. 

She's going for five hundred feet above the ground. That's a forty story building; the Empire doesn't (as far as she's seen) have those. It's also seven hundred feet below the talisman and she has Resist Fire up so she thinks - if they betray her in any way other than sending Altarrin forced to kill himself -

 

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(Kastil would probably have pushed for that. Bastran...did, actually, consider it briefly, but it would be a tiny window, and he doesn't know how quickly Altarrin will be conscious enough for even a a forced Final Strike - it doesn't require complex thought but there's an act of will. And it would be absurdly stupid to end up making just-Healed Altarrin kill himself when Caris was already out of range.

 

Besides, he's chosen his gamble and he's making it.) 

Communication-spell. Direct, because it may be a tiny additional risk but he doesn't have time for delays. Relay instructions, starting with <countdown started> to let them know to get the mage into the room now

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Someone else drops the mage in by Gate. 

The mage is, fortunately, well prepared for this, having seen the full schematics for it and had a Thoughtsenser pull him into mind-rapport with several other mages who had incidentally interacted with Carissa but not substantively. If the plan had been a different one they might have had more trouble. 

Tiny threshold just to anchor and then search first, that's the hard part here - most mages can't resize the threshold after but he can and it'll make it slightly faster.

...They obviously have someone else scrying the talisman. Not from Altarrin's prison cell now hastily set up as an infirmary, from a different secure location, and he probably won't get it before the Gate and almost certainly not fast enough to Gate someone else in, which Bastran has ordered them not to attempt anyway. But it would be interesting to see Caris' plan in action.

 

The Healer is still holding Altarrin's hand, up until the last second. They've been pushing really hard and his vital signs are slightly stabilized, though his extremities are mottled and cold.) 

 

- twelve seconds. He would be faster if he had seen the talisman himself but it's within the time limit. The search lands. 

Focus, focus, and - 

 

- snap up the small horizontal threshold and then embiggen it to cover the surface of Altarrin's bed and wait a beat - he's through - and down– 

 

(Long enough to get a glimpse of open and and the ground a very, very long way down. Which is - what - uh, wow. There is presumably some kind of plan for how this doesn't kill Altarrin but the Healer is having some slight regrets.) 

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That's a falling body! Carissa is kind of far away but it's probably Altarrin. He's completely limp, not struggling at all as he falls. 

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Several excruciating seconds pass while hopefully-Altarrin falls out of the sky. 

Then - 

Feather Fall, which is nearly instantaneous. Infernal Healing and then away from him as fast as possible as it starts to kick in, also away from the Gate location, up up up to within range to dismiss her Rope Trick (she does not want them getting a look at it) and Teleport to safety. Well. To the place where Altarrin left her a large supply of spellsilver. She's not counting on it being safety. 

 

 

Altarrin will settle more or less gently on the ground, healed, forty seconds after she's gone, unless the Emperor intervenes on that. The falling Thoughtsensing medallion will beat him to it. 

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They get scrying up, anchored on the talisman, twenty-five seconds in, which is not enough to see very much. Altarrin is in midair but appears to not be falling very fast? They can't see any sign of Caris, but probably he can be invisible. 

 

They do not try to Gate anyone in for a Final Strike. It's really unclear where they could aim and not risk hitting Altarrin. They do not have a reliable way to nab him out of the air on this little notice and planning. 

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Altarrin blearily wakes up ten seconds into the Feather Fall. 

 

 

...He has no idea where he is or what's happening, but his entire body aches and he kind of feels like he's dying. 

orient -

 

Mage-sight does not work. 

 

he can't move - he can't actually confirm that he's under an enormous stack of compulsions, because he can't use magic and because he has never, actually, been subject to nearly this level of them, this is much stronger than what they use even on most prisoners, but it's got to be that - 

Also he feels like he's - floating? 

It takes him another ten seconds - after which, to his vague surprise, he feels somewhat less like he's dying - before he thinks to try opening his eyes, which whoever laid the compulsions has apparently deigned to allow him. 

 

- he's totally floating! In midair, not falling so much as sinking slowly. The ground is all the way down there! 

 

 

 

Altarrin is unable to do anything whatsoever about this and is still not incredibly with it. He spends the remainder of the Feather Fall in a state of complete panic. 

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They do get people on the ground within thirty seconds of the Gate, plenty of time for them to run to where it looks like Altarrin is going to land - coordinating quickly, ready to fling up force-nets at various heights if whatever spell that is fails - and they're trying to examine it with mage-sight as quickly as possible, what is that - 

The spell doesn't fail. Altarrin falls gently into several sets of arms and a cushioning force-net. They're not exactly interested in sticking around when Caris might be floating around invisibly. The Gate will go right back up and Altarrin will go right back to his cell and his bed. 

 

 

How is he? 

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For one: he's passive and unresisting. Which must be the compulsions, because he's pretty clearly awake and terrified. He doesn't seem very oriented to his surroundings. 

 

In terms of physical condition: anything that could reasonably have been called an injury seems to be gone, or just about gone, like he's done weeks of healing over the course of seconds. There's no remaining sign of internal bleeding, and the various broken bones are healed to the extent that they probably don't need to be immobilized at this point, though it's possible to tell by looking closely that they were broken. He has some interesting scars on his arms but the sloughing, oozing dead tissue is completely healed. He's no longer suffering from blood loss. The backlash is gone. 

 

He's still pretty dehydrated - he was losing bodily fluids fast from the burns - and he's still poisoned several different ways at once, and he still has a pretty extensive infection in his blood, the healing doesn't seem to have touched that. But it's done pretty well on the various accumulated organ damage, and it looks like his native immune system should be functioning normally now... 

 

In short, he's going to be fine. Not immediately, he's going to have a miserable night, but he would likely make a full recovery with rest and fluids even without the Healing attention. 

 

...also he's still clearly panicking, his heart racing, and he's trying to vomit now and the compulsions are not letting him even try to roll over. 

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Apparently he's supposed to be able to follow instructions but it's not clear he's tracking his surroundings at all. They'll deal with it, and try to slow his heart rate because that cannot really be good for him, and repeatedly tell him to calm down. They would say that he's safe but he's a still a prisoner and honestly they have no idea what the plan is supposed to be from here. 

 

They'll pass on a report to Bastran. 

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...It worked. He was really mostly not expecting it to work! He's almost dizzy with sheer relief, and - what next, where do they go from here - no he can't think about that yet. 

 

He wants the Gate site scried from a distance for any magical traces and if there's nothing in the next thirty minutes he wants pastwatchers sent out. These are the precautions for supervising Altarrin. They need someone to re-check his compulsions, properly, and - honestly maybe they should just redo them, they can do one at a time to avoid him ever being able to do very much.

He wants a Thoughtsenser to read him. He wants to check just in case Caris somehow had the ability to swap Altarrin with an imposter at this late point, and also it's really hard to gauge Altarrin's information state right now and that might be important. The Thoughtsenser will work from another room, with a lot of compulsions in place and under guard, and they'll need to quarantine afterward too. (Until and unless he actually hears from Caris again and they negotiate a surrender and the surrender happens, he is going to continue with as many of Kastil's precautions as he can manage.) 

If Altarrin is lucid enough for it - the Thoughtsenser can confirm that - he wants someone to explain to him the basics of what just happened. He'll - write up a letter to be relayed. It's - not the same as going himself, and really that's the least he owes Altarrin, but...he can't. 

They should read him during it to get his reactions.

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Altarrin's incredibly thorough and incapacitating compulsions are exactly as they were left. (They snipped his compulsions for loyalty to Empire and Emperor after checking that they were in place - it's standard protocol, people can get a lot of motivational weight wrapped around their loyalty compulsions and if they're very good at this, they can sometimes pit that against their imprisonment compulsions and get them to bend a little.) They'll redo them all anyway. 

Altarrin can tell this is happening. He can't do anything about it, and probably wouldn't try anyway, he's still not entirely sure how he got here but it doesn't seem like resisting will either work or be likely to go well. 

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Once he is as securely compulsioned as they can be sure of given the involvement of mysterious magic of unknown scope, they'll send in a Thoughtsenser. Not Ketar or Ellitrea who might be mind-controlled. Someone unimportant, yoinked from a minor border placement, who can be imprisoned afterward. He's not incredibly enthused about this but he's not fighting his compulsions about it. 

 

 

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Altarrin is incredibly disoriented and has not gotten as far as forming a specific hypothesis of where he is, though he's under the general impression that he's probably in the Eastern Empire as opposed to some other country somehow. He did consider if he was in Iftel but he's pretty sure they're speaking the Imperial tongue and they don't look Ifteli and also why would Vkandis keep him alive. 

He's having a very hard time stringing together thoughts, between the number of compulsions that affect planning and volition directly and the fact that he's running a high fever and his head aches and he's intensely nauseated. 

He's really, really scared. He's - somewhat more in control of it, now. The Healers are interrupting the physical correlates of panic and that helps break the loop somewhat, and he's managed to drag together enough of a thread of thought to remember that being terrified is not actually going to do him any good here. 

 

He's so confused. It's taking him a while to reason through the pieces, but - his last clear memory is of being in a records-cache, alone and badly injured, after an obvious godassassination attempt. An inside plot, at least partially - he remembers not being sure the Empire was safe for him - 

 

Carissa

He's mostly trying not to think about her because presumably his mind is being read (this thought is not even explicit, it's on the level of habit) and also thinking is really hard. But - she didn't flee, at least not like they'd discussed. 

 

- and then the most recent thing he remembers is waking up abruptly, and feeling awful and then slightly better, and also while in midair. That's absolutely Carissa. ...He has no idea why or how Carissa would have collected him from the cave and healed him and dumped him in midair but that's his top theory right now. 

 

There's nothing he can do about it now. He'll...try to rest. 

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This is summarized through two stages of clerks and reported to the Emperor. 

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The Emperor hates everything. 

 

He wants to order them to release a couple of the volition-affecting compulsions, he still won't be able to escape but he might be less miserable and terrified about it. ...He might only care about that because of mind-control. At the very least, people are going to wonder, and if he's going to juggle this nightmare and de-escalate then he needs his people not to be doubting his judgement. 

He's staring at a piece of paper with multiple scratched-out lines on it, trying to draft an explanation for Altarrin that might help him feel slightly more oriented and less scared without giving too much away, but - it's really hard to judge that, actually. ...Also what if he's being mind-controlled into caring whether Altarrin is oriented and not scared. 

 

He doesn't draft an explanation. It sounds like it's unclear whether Altarrin is really lucid enough for it anyway. 

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And on the other end of Caris' Teleport - 

 

It's a cave! It's cold and musty and completely unlit. 

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Carissa can't stay in the cave very long - they'll get the location out of Altarrin - but she is taking the risk of coming here first because she's way too easy to kill for this kind of thing and she's hoping Altarrin's supplies can help change that. She's shaking violently, which is embarrassing, sure she's not an adventurer but Cheliax shouldn't produce any wizards who get freaked out just by a trivial scoop-a-person-who-might-explode-out-of-midair-heal-him-and-flee mission.

She's also pretty sure that the compulsions are in fact affecting her thoughts, though in a way that gets worse when she looks directly at it so she's trying not to do too much of it. Because the thing is that the wise thing to do at this point is to leave, to run away, to make it a fact visible in her prophecy-footprint that she's not going to make any trouble for a hundred years (and that if she dies a bunch of deadman's wizardry notes will be unleashed on the world) -

- and she can't, as kind of a bare fact, run away from the Empire like that. She's doing this for the Empire. She's just trying to make sure she doesn't get killed when she turns herself in because the Empire needs her alive. 

She resents that but, again, gets worse the more attention you pay it, better to just not at least not while you're still in the middle of an emergency.


What's in this cave of Altarrin's.

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If she provides a light, the cave contains: 

- A pallet laden with ten-pound ingots of spellsilver, packaged for bulk transport in oil in durable sealed oilcloth pouches in straw in little crates. There are actually twelve of them, so 120 pounds. 

- A sturdy, rather ancient-looking unmarked chest with a magical lock on it and a lot of spells woven into the material. It would be very hard to figure out with Velgarth magic but Dispel Magic ought to open it just fine. 

- A crate with a label and complete inventory list of the magical artifacts it contains. It's written in an obscure dead language that hasn't been spoken or written since shortly after the Cataclysm, but Comprehend Languages won't care, which of course Altarrin knew. 

- Resting on the spellsilver in a spot she couldn't possibly miss, a small, very very thoroughly magically reinforced satchel. Unlike the chest, this one looks new. She'll need a Dispel Magic to get into this one too, but it's labeled in the Imperial tongue and, at this point, she might even recognize the letters for 'CARISSA' without a Comprehend Languages up. 

- A very generous stash of non-magical (or slightly magical) emergency supplies. Bedroll, extra blankets. Warm clothing in roughly her size. Nonperishable food. Sealed containers of water, and some wine. Tent with durability shields and a built-in weather-barrier, though without a Velgarth mage to power it it'll only last two days. 

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She's such a fucking idiot for not fleeing the instant he died. He didn't quite say to do that. He probably couldn't. Compulsions to the Empire. 

 

 

...inconveniently she's running very dearly low on spells today (she would still have some third circle slots except she's been using them for extra Rope Tricks) and can't afford the risk of staying here overnight. They'll have the location out of Altarrin by then, if they're prioritizing it. (They shouldn't have it yet, he hasn't hit the ground yet.) She Alters Self as small as the spell lets her (adolescent halfling) and starts looking for a way out of the cave. 

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It's going to take her a while, but eventually she can follow a faint breeze, and wriggle her way down a crevice and then another one, and eventually there's a tiny crescent of blue sky peeking above a large rock in the way that looks much too heavy to shift aside but, when poked, turns out to be - maybe hollow inside, or something? In any case, she can lift it just fine. 

Moving her supplies out through the crevice is going to be really annoying, if she wants to do that.

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...how long would it take a moderately competent wondrous-item crafter to make one of those blankets and some of that spellsilver into an emergency Bag of Holding. 

 

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Two and a half days.

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How long would it take, hypothetically, if that person was really fucking terrified and unusually good at spellcraft and willing to burn a lot of the spellsilver trying to make it happen as fast as they possibly could.

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...less time than that.

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She should take the blanket and the spellsilver and the satchel with her name on it and leave now, and tomorrow she'll decide whether to, with a new very very nice Bag of Holding, risk going back.

She's used an Infernal Healing, two Feather Falls, two Rope Tricks, two Invisibilities, a Detect Thoughts, two Flies, a Nondetection, a Gaseous Form and a Protection from Energy, three Dimension Doors a Sending and a Scry and a Teleport. It is a ludicrously dangerous amount of low-on-spells to be. She has one more second circle spot she's been planning to use for a Rope Trick and she can't even put it safely up in the sky because she has nothing left above second circle. She has three first circle slots. And it's...not yet noon.

Realistically it's not going to be safe to come back tomorrow. 

 

 

She prepares and casts Comprehend Languages, and shapeshifts into something with darkvision rather than light the cave again. What's on the inventory list?

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And...what does Altarrin's note say?

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Inventory list: soooooooooooo many protective mage-artifacts, including half a dozen Altarrin never mentioned existed. There are a set of six that supposedly shield different aspects of mage-energy that covers nearly all kinds of attack. There are three for different kinds of physical force shielding and one for non-magical heat-shielding - rated to let her walk safely through a bonfire although it'll run down the power reservoir fast to do that repeatedly. There's one that should let her shrug off mage-techniques that aren't technically attacks, like paralysis-spells. There's another Thoughtsensing talisman, of a weird different design; the note says it's not known in the Eastern Empire, which provides a little extra security. She can make herself invisible to Velgarth scrying. She can make her person not a valid Gate search-target (the notes are very clear that this does not block Gates in her vicinity, that's much much harder, but it means a mage can't use knowledge of her life-force and magic, or anything she's known to be wearing, as a search-target.) There's one that will form an air-bubble around her if she needs to spend a while underwater, though it's only good for twenty minutes. 

They're all at full power and there are are four of each kind, and notes on how often they need to be re-powered by a Velgarth mage. The least durable are the physical force and mage-attack shields, which last a day if she walks around with them at full power all the time, three days if she keeps them on passive mode but she won't, like a Velgarth mage, be able to activate them instantly in the case of a sudden attack. There are instructions on how to interface with them non-magically, she can toggle the powerful shield ones on and off by moving a bead along a wire. The ones against detection are permanently on once she takes them out of their boxes, and will last three days each except for the Gate one which is two days. 

A note added by hand at the bottom: Altarrin is apologetic that he didn't give these to her earlier, but they're (deliberately) obscure designs that either aren't known at all in the Empire - some are only known by him personally - or are at least very rare and nonstandard, and it would have given away information that he very much didn't want given away. Not to mention most people don't go around constantly shielded against six different aspects of mage-attacks and it would have stood out. Also, none of them were technically made by "Altarrin", so even if someone decides to do a completely ridiculous search by trying to track every magic artifact that bears Altarrin's signature, they won't show up. 

 

 

 

...The note on the satchel is literally just her name, though it's underlined twice as though to indicate importance and urgency. It continues to be impossible to get into without a Dispel Magic. 

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Damn it. 

 

 

Hundreds, probably thousands of hours of work.

It's what he was busy with, while she was annoyed he was so busy. 

 

 

If she's crying, no one else will be able to tell even on pastwatching, because it's dark, and also crying would be very stupid. Just because Altarrin was, fucking obviously, smart and had a plan he was magically bound to convey to her only indirectly, and she - was too stuck in her own head to notice - she didn't even spend much time considering fleeing, because the Emperor liked her and she felt special and - and she was a fucking idiot and how many times, right, can you be a fucking idiot, before you start to wonder if maybe you just deserve to be a paving stone forever WHICH IS NOT EVEN AVAILABLE ON THIS HORRIBLE PLANET YET.


She can't take it with her. Knowing how much it's worth doesn't change that at all. If she sets all of her ONE ACTUAL TALENT WHICH CLEARLY DOES NOT REALLY REQUIRE ANY INTELLIGENCE OR SHE, THE STUPIDEST PERSON, WOULD SUCK AT IT on the task of making a Bag of Holding, she might have something workable in half an hour.

If Altarrin's in fact recovered and they're using him to look for her she doesn't have half an hour. The fact it'd be really fucking impressive to build a bag of holding in half an hour doesn't actually matter.

 

She is glad that she read it so she knows what she's leaving behind, but the part of her that's glad about that is also the part that would be glad to be on fire right now. 

Unfathomable, how she is literally the most intelligent person on the face of this planet and this much of a goddamned idiot.

 

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She leaves without it. Spellsilver, and some blankets, and the packet with her name on it, and the knowledge that Altarrin arranged that for her, which is maybe worth something in itself, though probably not in fact worth the wasted several minutes of crying.

 

 

 

Maybe they won't ask him where she is in the first half hour. 

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They are not, in fact, going to ask Altarrin in the next half hour. (Or the next six candlemarks.) 

Once they've confirmed his identity (insofar as they can given the level of uncertainty about otherwordly magic), the Emperor orders the Thoughtsenser out of the room and into quarantine, in case there's contagious mind-control and it's cumulative. Nearby; they may need him again. He can have lots of books to read and nice food, they're not trying to make this a punishment. 

Altarrin certainly seems helpless. They have a mage watching (from well outside the room) ready to slam more compulsions on him if he so much as twitches or if any of the current ones do anything weird. The Emperor tells the temporary lead Mage-Inquisitor that he thinks it makes sense to interrogate Altarrin later, once he can speak in coherent sentences; it might be lower risk to do it with less contact, relaying verbal questions by communication-spell through someone unimportant in the room. 

This isn't putting maximal priority on intelligence. His explanation is that he doesn't know how much it would help. If he can really do arbitrary mind-control, it would be stupid of Caris to leave Altarrin as a repository of too many secrets, and if Altarrin does know key secrets it would have been stupid of Caris to heal him

 

What's the status on pastwatching? 

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It's really confusing! They think Caris appeared from midair and was very briefly visible and there were a couple of mage-energy signatures at oddly precise intervals (unfamiliar ones) and then he wasn't visible but was presumably still there. There was a rope in midair and the talisman was on it and pastwatching is having trouble resolving what was holding the rope up - it didn't leak mage-energy. 

...Going further back, at an earlier point there were two dangling ropes? The previous one fell out of the sky a brief interval before any of this started - there was maybe a mage-energy signature but a very very faint one. 

There's the Gate. There's a visible Altarrin. He falls normally for a kind of unnerving interval and then there's another unfamiliar spell signature - but maybe similarish to the first one after Caris appears? - and he's still falling but slowly and then, again at an oddly precise interval, there's yet another spell-signature, this one more different. Then a final spell-signature, different again and - more powerful? Brighter? 

The second rope and talisman fall. They found both of them on the ground; they don't actually, at this point, look magical. 

 

 

They are memorizing impressions and getting them down in notation as best they can, in case Altarrin recognizes any of this once he's recovered enough for a non-mindreading interrogation. 

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He'll keep updating people and coordinating searches and arranging obvious precautions. For some reason, none of them have anything to do with a cave several hundred miles away. 

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 She makes a single-use item of Teleport first. She's really expecting they'll show before she finishes it, but the area around the cave is peaceful and quiet.

She makes a Bag of Holding. Not even a small one, one big enough for everything in the cave.

It's been about an hour.

 

 

No one on this planet will appreciate how ludicrously fast that is but it does slightly soothe the desire to be a paving stone. 

 

 

It's possible that there's a trap laid for her. It's also possible that Altarrin, who is clearly way smarter than she accounted for and way better at planning ahead than she accounted for, has some strategy for not giving up locations when captured.

It's also possible that Bastran isn't trying to send his army after her now that she's made the point that it might be a god plot to kill her. 

They did a bunch of scrying. They know it didn't work. They now know that she was somehow sitting in undetectable pocket dimensions right above their city. They saw her Teleport, and don't know it was their only one. Maybe the first set of questions to Altarrin isn't 'where is she' but 'what do you know about how her magic works'.

 

 

Which still result in them steadily narrowing down on her actual capabilities and being much more dangerous to oppose, but -

 

 

She goes back for the stuff. Higher risk of death now, lower risk of death in the long run. That's how it goes sometimes but it is in fact pretty emotionally brutal having to make that tradeoff with quite large chances of death multiple times in the same morning.

 

 

She can't be sorry she rescued Altarrin, even though this cave would be safe if she hadn't. He did this for her. It would be - really something - to realize that he'd done this for her if she hadn't tried at all to save him. 

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Ambush?

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No ambush! The cave is quiet and undisturbed and continues to be that way for however long it takes her to load her Bag of Holding. 

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It feels like implausibly good luck. You shouldn't expect that when the gods want to kill you. Of course, Altarrin presumably chose this location for the lack of god-influence.

 

She will pick up all the stuff and put it in her Bag of Holding. Go human-of-local-ethnicity. Then she will Teleport....seventy miles from here. Southwest, why not. Hopefully not far enough to put her in god-territory, hopefully far enough to be outside a reasonable search radius. 

 

(She cannot at all afford to burn spellsilver at this rate and really needs to make a Ring of Invisibility and some Boots of Teleport. But that will take a while, even for her, and a growingly loud voice in her head is pointing out that she said she'd surrender said she'd surrender why's she doing all this running -)

 

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Okay actually. This is going to become a problem.

 

 

 

 

She needs, in order to serve the Empire, to be able to think. Altarrin thought so, and he's the expert on the Empire. And fighting gods is hard enough when you're using your whole brain; it doesn't work at all if you aren't. 

 

Can she.... imagine a different Carissa who does not happen to be a subject of the Empire. And imagine what that imaginary Carissa who is only here as a mental aid to help the real Carissa serve the Empire better would have to say. 

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...the mind control is bad. It was bad for Altarrin and it's bad for you. 

You know, if everything hadn't exploded, I think you could've convinced the Emperor to take it off Altarrin. Not off you, not right away, but you could've pointed out it was why Altarrin was working himself to death, that he was leaning into it wrong.

But now, of course, you can't convince anyone of anything because that has been established to be you having mind control powers. 

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Thank you, extremely helpful, what I really needed here was more ways to replay the events of my life up to this point and imagine how well it would've gone if I hadn't been weak. 

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I think that in the long run it will serve the Eastern Empire best if there aren't gods trying to fight it, and that you and Altarrin have a better chance outside the Empire of succeeding at that. 

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See, at some point that's just too much of a stretch. If they're literally trying to kill me, no, but - Bastran wants to help me surrender safely. I told him I would.

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He didn't believe you! It wasn't an operational context in which anyone would take that as a promise!

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He wanted to believe me - are we hypothesizing here that the way I feel about Bastran is compulsion-induced and you, without the compulsion -

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I mean, he compares well to all of the other absolute monarchs I've ever met. 

But you can't achieve your incredibly ambitious life goals under mind control. 

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Then I have to convince him of that. Turn myself in and convince everyone that I don't have weird mind control powers in the first place, and then - tell him true relevant things. He can decide to release us if he wants to.

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You could cast a Dispel Magic on yourself tomorrow not to get at your compulsions that you're supposed to have, but in case you have any you aren't supposed to -

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No. I can't. - actually okay I'm stopping that mental experiment it feels like a very dangerous kind of mental experiment to be running and if I explore the space of things that I might have other reasons to do which would incidentally solve this problem then it's going to get harder to do.

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This has given Carissa a headache. She isn't usually a wimp who stops walking just because she's in pain but she doesn't actually have a reason to walk. She's in some nondescript wilderness. No one should have any way to find her and there's nothing she can usefully do until tomorrow, except burn more of this spellsilver into proper Boots of Teleport. What are the gods going to send after her here, a bear?

...she prepares Magic Missile, in case of bears.

 

 

And then she works on her Boots of Teleport and hopes the Empire, to which she is devoted and loyal, hasn't yet realized that the very impressive wizard who ran circles around them this morning is a commoner until dawn. Or that if they have realized that, they still have no idea how or where to find her.

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They follow up on every lead they can think of. Now that the official inquiry (under temporary new management) isn't trying to operate without warning Caris, they can do much more thorough interrogations of everyone in the palace. That's going to take a while but might turn up a hint? 

Altarrin was wearing a magic ring and a magic headband and a pin. There are lots of headbands but they've mostly been confiscated and none should be currently outside the capital except Carissa's. The ring is, according to Ellitrea's latest round of interrogation, meant to replace food and sleep and wow they probably almost killed Altarrin by taking it off him when he was unconscious and barely alive already. But probably only Caris has another. They'll put mages on developing search-spells to target a ring, and then try for headbands. Their first attempt fails but it's unclear if it's because Caris is in a pocket dimension in the sky somewhere or shielded or just because their version one isn't very good. 

They'll keep thinking of possible leads. Is Altarrin coherent enough to question, yet? 

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Not really but he's not very motivated to be. (They could put some more forceful compulsions on him but it would risk destabilizing the ones keeping him nice and quiet and not at all trying anything, and it might not help that much, he's going to be fine in the longer run but his body is still fighting a serious infection and the Healers are pretty sure at least one of the poisons is contributing to his being so groggy and confused.) 

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Arguably he should push for it but...also arguably he shouldn't. It might actually delay getting important information, if Altarrin is too ill for it and the process pushes him to greater exhaustion. 

The Emperor will instead focus on arranging protective measures on the palace. This set of important people confirmed to have never interacted with Caris should probably be relocated to different secure unscryable locations outside the capital. Caris knows his way around the palace and can operate with undetectable invisibility; they should make sure he won't easily find resources or be able to get anyone alone - everyone not important enough to evacuate but important enough to worry about should be set up in a buddy system - probably the temporary lead Mage-Inquisitor can think of other precautions - everyone should obviously have mage-sight open all the time, they sometimes can detect Caris that way - 

 

- think about what assurances he would need to accept Caris' surrender. What assurances Caris will need, to agree to a particular arrangement. Can they get extra mileage out of good faith offers that aren't actually that costly - access to Altarrin, maybe, if he's mind-controlled it's not something they can see or reverse and Caris had much longer with him, what's another few interactions - 

 

 

In the early evening he hears that Altarrin is able to answer the Healers' verbal questions. The Healers think he's still way too out of it to usefully interrogate without Thoughtsensing but the Emperor arranges people and precautions to at least make a brief attempt; if it's clearly not going to work, they'll give him overnight, but he might know where Carissa is and he might be able to shed some light on what exactly happened the first night of their acquaintance, and that could be important and time-sensitive - 

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Altarrin can be shaken awake and, once they demand it firmly enough, forced to pay attention to the person standing on the other side of a shield from his sickbed and asking questions. It's a lot harder to force him to think. Most of his compulsions are pointed in the direction of - passivity, not resisting - and he's leaning into that. 

He also doesn't have the slightest idea what they're questioning him about. Presumably Carissa in some capacity? 

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Does he know where Carissa is right now?

"No," and they're going to have to get specific and prod a lot harder to get him to speculate, speculating takes energy and he's tired. 

Did Carissa inform him of places she might intend to flee?

No. He will additionally force out that she didn't previously seem inclined to make plans for that. They haven't asked him yet if he made a plan for her and he doesn't think they're reading his mind but his thoughts are still not going there. 

Does he know of resources Carissa would have access to?

...Yes. He put some spellsilver in a cave for her. 

Where?

West. Outside the Empire. He genuinely can't remember any more precisely than that, right now.

Well, did he write it down?

Yes. 

Where are those notes.

Not here. 

Then where?

Somewhere else he can't remember. (This is also true; he randomizes records between his caches in case one is destroyed, keeps an updated list of ciphered inventory in every cache so he can look it up. He probably would remember if he could think but they're not asking that.) 

Does he think Carissa mind-controlled him to be this confused?

He has no idea how would he know he just woke up here. 

What's the last interaction with Carissa he remembers?

Before he left for Taymyrr. (Also he can infer that she healed him and then dropped him out of the sky for some reason but they did not, in fact, interact.) 

Where did he go with Carissa on the first night after she appeared? 

Gated to randomly chosen secure location. 

Why? 

To talk. 

About what?

Her world. 

 

 

(This most recent line of questioning would be terrifying if Altarrin had any energy whatsoever for that. He's not even managing to think one step ahead, right now, just - letting the compulsions drag him along, dredging up and spitting out whatever answer he lands on first, preference for not very many words.) 

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This interrogation is deeply frustrating and feels kind of pointless and the Healers are glaring. The mage running it (not a Mage-Inquisitor, they're not risking even indirect exposure to the mind control until they put together a firmer policy on that) is kind of inclined to give up. 

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Sigh. It's some information but not very useful, no, and it's not even especially strong evidence that he's mind-controlled into forgetfulness, the Healers were genuinely worried about pushing him further and the current suite of compulsions is not working in their favor when on a brainfoggy person. Maybe tomorrow, once he's had a night's rest to recover some more, they can drag the location of Caris' spellsilver stash out of him.

(He must have stolen that, without anyone noticing? they would have spotted if he were buying up more of it than can be accounted for. ...The Emperor can admit that this does not exactly look good.) 

 

Well, the palace is fortified against at least some of the relative less terrifying threat-avenues, and - maybe tomorrow he'll hear from Caris(sa?) about negotiations for a surrender. It'll be information, of some kind, if he does. 

 

The Mage-Inquisitors will presumably keep working overnight, at least some of them, but the Emperor, in his secure non-palace secret location, is going to bed

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Ahahahaha, two fifth circle spells on this scaffold (both of them Teleport), she's a real proper fifth circle caster now!!! (This is a benchmark she should really have been able to perform to as soon as she hit fifth circle, but she's been totally without any magic instruction since then and hadn't, in fact, executed it correctly until this morning. Yesterday she prepped an additional fourth-circle spell in place of the last fifth circle one.)

 

Today she has two Teleports two scries another Rope Trick and Dispel Magic to look at all Altarrin's presents. 

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The satchel contains a loosely bound packet of notes, in Altarrin's hand, again in a dead language that Comprehend Languages will ignore entirely. The paper looks crisp and new, and some of the notes are dated - to five weeks ago, three, two weeks. They are very clearly mage-research notes; Carissa has a passing familiarity with the conventions, at this point, and Altarrin has gone to considerable effort to unpack and define various more obscure shorthand mage-notations. 

There's a note pinned to the front. 

Carissa

If you are reading this, I am most likely dead. I will find you, if you decide you wish to be found and continue working together, but it seems best that you not waste the interim. 

These are my progress notes on immortality methods for you. I have tried where possible to pursue avenues that I think could use your arcane magic, and perhaps in the process be more opaque to our gods. All of this is preliminary work, I anticipate this is a five to ten year project, but you are very clever.

I did not feel comfortable sharing details with you when your mind might still be read, and I apologize for that. Assuming that I was killed, something is badly wrong in the Empire and you are no longer safe there. I am also leaving a chest of my personal records. They are not really designed to be legible to anyone else and I have not at this point had time to address that, but I left a key to my most commonly-used cipher, and you can use it to find the location of my other records caches, and indexes of which notes are stored where, if you wish to pursue a research direction I have explored in the past.

I am likely to end up at a random records cache before I have enough context to find you, so if you have a spell to detect intruders, it might enable you to find me faster. I am not assuming, at this point, that you will want to, and I am sorry that I did not succeed better at building trust between us, but I am entirely on the side of your project, and that is not going to change. 

- Altarrin 

 

It's dated to a week ago. He must have Gated here to update the file during his work in Taymyrr. 

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Carissa is possibly going to forget all of her other responsibilities for the next while while she reads Altarrin's notes on how to MAKE HER IMMORTAL

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They are in fact really, really preliminary! 

...Altarrin has a pocket hidden in the Void. (Based on Carissa's knowledge of how the Void works, this should not really be possible.) His soul is tethered to it - it's sort of arguably blood-magic, but using his own life-force. Since the pocket is in the Void, and there is no extant mage-tradition that teaches mages to project their minds to the Void - in fact, he suspects he invented it or taught it to himself in his first lifetime - it's extremely difficult to trace, and the gods haven't succeeded at it yet. 

There's a bloodline spell that links to all of his male descendants. (This wasn't incredibly a deliberate choice because he disliked the thought of being a woman, it was just magically much easier for some reason - he thinks he might have once very confusingly ended up in a female-appearing body but it was during a period where he really doesn't have good records and he didn't survive that long.) When his soul is in the pocket, a ward-type spell watches for the trigger event, which is a mage-gifted male descendent casting a fire spell for the first time, and then - zoom.

He doesn't have to kill them, necessarily, he shared a few times, but it...distorted him, and he didn't like it, and also he wakes up in the body disoriented and usually evicts its previous inhabitant on sheer reflex. He doesn't like the cost but this is the method that survived the Cataclysm, his first few attempts to replicate methods that did not survive the Cataclysm but should have worked were disrupted, and he eventually decided he would rather not keep giving the gods more information on this area of magic. 

- he also can't replicate it now. He's pretty sure gods can intervene in the Void, if they know to look. But Carissa has some tools the gods are still mostly unaware of. 

 

Other ideas: immortal artifacts. Someone's a sword. That particular case involved a divine intervention as well but he thinks you wouldn't have to have that. Multiple downsides, though – limited cognition, the sword seems less than fully sentient unless piggybacking on the mind of a Gifted bearer. Upside: doesn't kill anyone. 

Inspired by that: sword that partially hosts your soul while you sneak in and 'reincarnate' into a fetus just before the usual time in gestation when souls attach. Downside is occasional long periods of reduced capacity and greater vulnerability. Upside: doesn't kill anyone unless you count a counterfactual baby whose soul would've landed there instead, but Altarrin doesn't. 

Artifact that hosts a soul temporarily while you transfer it to a clone-body prepared in advance with a particular kind of bodyshaping magic. Altarrin created a species before the mage wars, and Urtho created a sentient species (gryphons), and it should be possible to create a one-off body that could hold an intelligent mind and attached soul and just...doesn't, yet. He has never gotten that far on attempting it, though, it's a high-resources project. He's curious if Carissa's Polymorph-type spells could cheat the difficulty entirely. 

 

There are a few other more vaguely sketched out ideas - adapting the technique that gives summoned elementals construct bodies (but how to make it permanent?) - consensual agreements with carefully selected people to start bearing your immortal soul-artifact at a young age, grow into the 'other half' of your mind (downside: wow that sounds more lossy in terms of values and sense-of-self than Altarrin is even close to willing to tolerate, but it's definitely a continued existence...) 

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There's no reason, is the thing. She's valuable now, as the only wizard in the world. She's going to be the best wizard in the world for her entire life, almost certainly. But it's not - not the kind of thing it makes sense for him to have been arranging to his own benefit, it's not that at all, the only conceivable reason to do it is as the largest favor imaginable -

- and why didn't he tell her - 

 

- probably she shouldn't surrender, now - or, well, this is less than they'll get off Altarrin himself anyway - did she mess up his plans - obviously she messed up his plans -

 

One week. She wants to go back in time one week, and tell him to come home before he goes from Taymyrr north, and -

- and beg him to hurt her, but that's very selfish, really. The responsible thing to do would be to talk. With her words. About how she's noticed he avoids her as much as possible and is incredibly stressed and busy and wonders if there's anything she should know about going on in his life -

- what even kind of stupid want is that -

 

He was trying to make her immortal. She was being bored and scared and impatient and - childish, going down her to-do list, prioritizing Merda's Detect Thoughts amulet, pleased with herself for piecing together the hat, whining that he flinched away from her when he was trying to make her immortal. 

 

Carissa can think of a lot of things she wants to improve about herself but one of them, at this point, is the quality of the internal monologue self-flagellation. It's pathetic and repetitive. She should really get good at insulting herself, if she's going to continue to suck this much and survive it entirely due to the unearned kindness and generosity of people who see - something - something she's not even living up to -

Or she could cut it out entirely and figure out how to be worth that much.

 

A scry takes an hour, which means she'll be slightly less speechless and entirely done crying by the time she gets one up on Altarrin.

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It's pretty easy to get a scry through on Altarrin; he's not mounting much of a Will save. 

 

He's in a room that is very obviously a prison cell and not the kind that's bothering to be polite and subtle about it.

Apparently the Infernal Healing didn't get everything wrong with him, though, because he looks uninjured, and - not too bad, really, definitely not dying, but - still somewhat ill, pale with dark circles under his eyes. Also he's in a bed - that looks like it was dragged in here, it's awkwardly wedged against one wall taking up most of the floorspace - with a Healer at his side, that's a hint. 

It's still barely dawn - Carissa wakes up much earlier than anyone without a Ring of Sustenance, including sick people whose Rings of Sustenance have been confiscated. Altarrin is asleep. 

He is presumably under an enormous pile of compulsions but Carissa can't see that directly. 

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Well, he's not dead, so that's good unless it's not.

 

 

She could rescue him. Same routine as yesterday except wearing all of Altarrin's ludicrously good anti-scrying and protective equipment. Take him back here before they noticed what had happened. 

For some reason the first thought that this provokes is of the Emperor's face. He'd be - upset, and then upset at himself for being upset -

- it's stupid, and it doesn't help, she couldn't get his compulsions off and him the Empire really would track with an army if that's what it took - with his help it wouldn't matter what they tried but without his help she's...totally useless, actually, and would have died 24 hours ago.

 

 

The scry's not really high quality enough to try to sneak cantrips through anyway. She just....watches him sleep. Yes, she's aware that's stupid and she should be finishing the Boots of Teleport so she can start using her fifth circle slots for other things. Or negotiating her surrender. One of those. 

 

He was working on making her immortal.

 

And - this is really stupid, but - it hurts, for the first time or at least in a new way, that he didn't want her, now that she knows that he did care about her. Assuming he in fact didn't want her, but - why pretend -

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The scry-sensor is visible to mage-sight. They even got a good enough look at the one yesterday to make some progress on a new ward to detect them, which they're going to lay on key rooms once it's ready. But in the meantime, a rotation of mages have been continuously scrying the room from another building - not because Altarrin is that much of a threat but because this is the obvious place for Caris to show up, invisible or on the wind or something even wilder than that, and try to grab him. They have closer to a prototype on a detection ward for the big flashy spell Caris used to escape earlier, and several mages have direct action-compulsions to, if they see such a signature, Gate-drop into the room and throw every attack spell at the source and Final Strike if that hasn't definitely worked. It would kill Altarrin, of course, but given that Caris agreed not to, the Emperor sighed and approved it. 

This one doesn't get a response in lethal force. The Emperor told them to expect contact, and suspected Caris might want to try for Altarrin first. Their channels of communication are limited; he doesn't want to waste them. 

 

This does necessitate a brief discussion, but about ten seconds after the scry solidifies, a mage - young, not important - Gates into the room. "Contact. Wake him." 

 

The current Healer, who is not very briefed on anything except the fact that this patient is a prisoner and might be mind-controlled and has a scary ally who may show up to rescue him, looks confused and worried. "Contact from who?" 

She'll nudge Altarrin until he wakes up, though. 

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Oh. They're learning. 

 

The scry genuinely didn't come out well enough to cast Message through, which is the only way to talk through a scry, so she winces apologetically when they wake Altarrin and ...can't say anything. Just look at him and -

 

- don't be a fucking idiot, Carissa, they may also have gotten better at tracing them back to the scryer -

 

 

- she breaks the spell. An hour of work for thirty seconds of looking at him. Good job. 

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It takes him a couple of seconds to wake up and parse what's happening, but he's genuinely much less bleary today.

 

Carissa -

 

He can't speak either, not without someone prompting him with a direct question. He can't use mage-sight to look for whatever they're reacting to. He can't even turn his head, so he'll just - stare at the ceiling and try to convey with his eyes that he's so relieved - also scared and miserable and they're going to try to question him today and this could be a serious problem and he's not, actually, sure this situation is substantially better than the one where Carissa let him die and he'll be waking up in a few months somewhere else. 

 

 

He notices when they call off the alarm. The mage looks confused and frustrated; the Healer looks exasperated. ...Might as well go back to sleep until they rudely wake him for questioning, which they might do immediately after this but he's not going to try to stay awake out of politeness for their schedule. 

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There is a very rapid debrief. They...are confused. 

(Was the purpose literally just to confirm that Altarrin is alive and they haven't executed them? That's the current best guess.) 

 

They send someone to wake the Emperor, though; he needs to know this. 

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He does!! Bastran will try to get himself to full alertness as fast as possible in case, having done a welfare check on Altarrin, Caris is lining up a negotiation with him next. 

He has his notes on potential conditions. They...don't feel like enough, right now, somehow in both directions at once. Not enough to meaningfully protect against a mind-controller and not enough to convince Caris that he can trust them. 

It went well enough yesterday, though. Maybe they can figure something out. 

He grits his teeth, and waits.

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It takes her an hour, of course. A vulnerability she would love to not be advertising, but - they aren't stupid. 

 

Is the Emperor trying to throw off her scry? 

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There is no sign in her voice by this time that she had an emotional morning. "Your Majesty. - would you prefer I communicate through an intermediary or something, I'm not clear on exactly what it is you're afraid I can do."

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The Emperor is in a small study. Not the one from his suite. Windowless, presumably underground, totally nondescript. (He's planning to leave and never enter it again after this conversation, in case it gives Caris the ability to teleport here at will - which could of course happen during the conversation but his guards have their orders -)

He was absolutely expecting this and he's somehow still startled, though he doesn't show any visible signs of it. 

"Caris. ...That seems preferable if this is going to take multiple conversations, but it's not at the top of my list of precautions, I - think it's more important to resolve this quickly."

Pause. "- Altarrin's fine - though I hear you checked? We're confident in his identity though can't rule out if he's invisibly mind-controlled. We're– at this point I can say it - whatever else happens, we are deeply grateful for that." 

Of course, maybe Altarrin wouldn't have been in such bad trouble at all if they hadn't sent the Inquisitors after Caris. 

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"I did check. I had conditions for handing him over to you, you'll recall, and am observing with interest if they are met. 

And - he saved my life, yesterday. I owed him his, if I could manage it."

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Nod.

- his room is unscryable, the mage-guards with him are compulsioned to him more directly than usual and have been ordered not to answer any questions without his permission, he can - this is as openly as they'll be able to speak at any point, probably - 

"I haven't spoken to him yet. He wasn't incredibly coherent yet and we're being cautious about - contagious mind control - minimizing Thoughtsensing him until the Office of Inquiry makes a call on whether the Thoughtsenser seems affected. If so I think one of the Office of Inquiry interrogators will question him this morning, before I talk to him, but I can formally order them to leave off certain topics - which of course will make some people think that I'm mind-controlled, but it was our agreement. It would be helpful if you can narrow down the topics they should steer around. Assume Altarrin may be less competent than usual to deflect, he's under very heavy compulsions." 

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"Is this conversation secure on your end? I can just - tell you what you'll get out of him later today anyway, and then you can figure out how you want to steer your people."

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That's - huh, a change in Caris' reaction. (Caris with a girl voice continues to be very weird but possibly less so than the alternative?)

...Can he trust it. Well. The same amount he could trust any of this, presumably. And they can check with Altarrin.  

 

"Room itself is as heavily shielded as my bedroom at court. Guards are loyal to me and compulsioned and under clear orders not to reveal anything that happens in here. I could put down a sound-barrier if that's not enough for you." 

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"I do not want your guards to be able to hear us."

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He nods to his guards, puts up a sound-barrier - it's fully permeable to the comms spell - and turns away so they can't read his lips. 

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"Altarrin developed a way to prevent his soul from being claimed by your world's useless gods when he dies, and to ensure it returns instead to the Empire with at least some of his memories intact. If the gods learn how it works, they will be more likely able to destroy it."

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"How did he– ...I shouldn't ask. How, how long ago did he - figure this out -?" 

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"I don't know. But it's what he told me the first night, when I - explained that my world had afterlives and it wasn't all right that yours didn't, and explained that I was going to have to fight your gods."

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"I..." 

It's not all right, is it, and yet - who but Altarrin would have tried to fight death? ...Not just for himself, he's sure of that, maybe that's the only step he could achieve so far but he would want it for everyone. And if he wants to bring the Empire to a point when they can fight gods on that scale, then of course he feels that the Empire is failing - 

- he must have been so relieved to meet someone who saw that and thought, no, obviously, this has to change and I'll do it myself...

 

Or, you know, maybe none of that is even true and maybe all of those emotions are the result of mind control. He nods, rather than reveal anything he doesn't technically need to, even though in the world where Caris is telling the truth, it feels like that would help

"Is that all? I doubt they were going to ask him 'are you immortal' but I suppose they might ask about - plans for working against the gods, and it'd come up - and it's not a secret that you think there should be afterlives. It's going to be suspicious if I tell them they can't ask about gods, that's - so much of what we're worried about here - is there any way to narrow that down a bit further?" 

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“You can ask him about the gods. I think if anything that’s a good angle, compared to asking precisely how our conversation went, or why he was - willing to die for me - you can ask how he satisfied himself of my intentions far enough to loosen my compulsions originally, you can ask him what he thinks the gods are trying for here and now - your majesty, I don’t really have the context to guess, here.”

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"So it's safer to ask about - generalities of why he trusts you, rather than to lay out a timeline of the day you met? That may be a problem, your conversation during the period Altarrin claimed to have been in the north is...one of our biggest uncertainties, the part that looks most uncharacteristic to Altarrin and suspicious for undetectable mind control. ...Is it safe to ask him about your world, in full generality, or is anything about that risky?" 

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“Your Majesty, are you trying to convince some third party or yourself? If you want to know everything ask him everything, just don’t end up in a situation where half your staff knows. If you’re trying to convince your inquisitor you need to brief them, let them report without the secret bits, and then kill them, that’s what I’d take in their place. …are you in fact safe presently, I can arrange to rescue you if not.”

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"I am not currently in danger and please don't, being 'rescued' would really not help - one of the factors I'm juggling is, in fact, not tempting anyone to try for a coup, I just arrested the top Mage-Inquisitor at the Office of Inquiry in order to work with you at all and I don't know what contingencies he set up - but I'm not incredibly worried. One in...twenty odds, maybe, if I can avoid doing anything spectacularly stupid and assuming that I am not, in fact, mind controlled and this will at some point be verifiable." 

Sigh. "In terms of who I'm trying to convince, it's - complicated? I'm mostly trying to take literally any precautions against the world where I'm compromised in a way I can't detect and so whether I'm convinced isn't actually evidence – in which case probably the best outcome for the Empire is that the Office of Inquiry does stage a coup, and I need to - avoid getting in the way in that possible world while preventing it in the worlds where you're not our enemy.

"I realize having that as an ongoing consideration makes it very hard to make other decisions and is probably going to cause me to make some stupid mistakes in the opposite direction. I'm trying very hard to avoid that. ...A consideration is that, entirely separately from whether there's any mind-control involved here, I like Altarrin, personally, and I'm worried about him, and I really don't think this is a useful attitude to be carrying into an adversarial interrogation and so it should not be me. I'll speak to the Mage-Inquisitor and - suggest that as an option - possibly with a plan that they will carve out exceptions and someone else can do a second interrogation and still be around to fully debrief on it..."  

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"That seems reasonable. Do you require anything else of me at this time?"

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"If you have it I would like a sense of - the most you would agree to, in terms of compulsions or contingency measures on our part or whatnot, in order to surrender willingly. ...And whether you would accept more restrictive conditions in exchange for access to Altarrin - with compulsions in place and precautions to make it difficult for you to teleport him out, but I think just letting you speak with him doesn't, actually, cost us very much here. I'm not sure how valuable you would consider it or what you'd be willing to trade for it." 

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"I want to be confident I won't die in your custody. If there are people who might contemplate killing you about this, there have to be far more who'd try at killing me. And while under ordinary circumstances I am hard to kill, if you've made me defenseless anyone who can get near me and Final Strike can do it. I want to be in a location known only to you, staffed by people bound not to kill me unless you tell them to, and to release me if you are assassinated, and I want the chance to ask Altarrin if he thinks that's sufficient and modify it if it's not."

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Nod. 

"I'm - not sure if I can give you that. It's going to depend on how questioning Altarrin goes. You're welcome to talk to Altarrin; I will instruct his guards not to interfere with your spell. He's currently under compulsions that don't allow any spontaneous voluntary actions including speaking but I think we can bend on just letting him talk. Probably."

 

 

 

"Should we speak again in six hours? I can suggest a relay-person, but - we might want the option of discussing the topics you don't want anyone else to know, and I'd prefer not to kill every guard I assign to the job, if this might take more back and forth." 

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"I can contact you directly in six candlemarks if you don't convey otherwise before then." She has no idea whether he has any means to do so. 

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"Agreed." 

S/he can go on not knowing! They don't, currently, but plausibly Altarrin does, and it sounds from the preliminary report like the Healers thought he was mostly lucid - 

 

- he needs to talk to the Mage-Inquisitor in charge about the interrogation– ....no. He needs to stop and think and assign at least some vague probabilities to whether he was acting uncharacteristic in that conversation in a mind-control-y way. In which case he...still needs to keep to their conditions, because he's not sure this process can recover from another betrayal in either direction, and he doesn't want to be first - is that mind-control - he doesn't think so, he thinks that's the sort of thing Altarrin used to advise him, that often you're starting from a position of no trust and nothing left to burn but when that's not true, when you've built anything especially if you took risks and went out on a limb for it, you don't carelessly break it 

 

He needs to go track down notes on pre-Caris conversations with Altarrin– he doesn't have time to do that. He'll give himself...a candlemark. 

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Carissa is going to move locations in case they were able to track her and then go back to her Boots of Teleport. They're going to take longer than all this will probably drag out if it goes well, but if it doesn't go well she'll be very glad she has the mobility. 

 

She rereads Altarrin's notes for her every few hours.  

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Is she going to Dispel Magic the ancient chest that apparently contains Altarrin's private research notes from past lives? 

(There are probably some considerations against, if she's planning to surrender to the Empire and does not want the Empire able to find Altarrin's secret records cache locations.) 

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Yeah, that should wait on learning whether she's going to surrender to the Empire or not. 

 

(She wants to serve the Empire. As long as it's safe. Altarrin knows what the Empire is about. Altarrin told her to flee it, temporarily, so they could save it. It's for the Empire.)

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Time to sit down and go through that conversation – mentally, because he does not want any notes on it floating around, though he'll write down Caris' suggestion for conditions – and question everything he was thinking! 

 

At the start, Caris offers him the opportunity to speak through an intermediary. He declines. He - doesn't think declining was the wrong decision, and in particular he got some key information out of it. 

(- if it's true - he meant to ask for a way to verify it that doesn't run through 'sending someone to question Altarrin, who might instead get mind-controlled into saying whatever Caris wants them to', though...he's honestly not putting very much weight on the strong version of the contagious mind control theory, and if it is true then he's not sure that even failing to prevent the Office of Inquiry from staging a coup is enough to save them -) 

Fine, so he doesn't regret it, but did he make the decision for sensible reasons? What did he say...that it seemed worth considering for future conversations, if this was going to take a while to arrange, but it wasn't his top priority. Because - well, his main argument here is that ten marginal minutes of conversation with Caris, while he's maximally on guard, seems like it should be a small effect next to, well, all the sex.

(Not thinking about the sex. Feelings, box, go. He mentally replays Caris' girl voice, to try to prod his hindbrain into either treating "Carissa" like a different person who isn't his lover, or at least tuning down any feeling of attraction.)

This argument is, of course, assuming that any of his priors about how magic normally works apply here. Kastil made that point and it's...not a terrible one. Implies that interrogating Altarrin is a priority, they can't be entirely sure of anything he tells them but it's got to be evidence. 

 

Gratitudes are exchanged, he doesn't think you need mind control to explain that, saying "thank you" is free and he did owe Caris at least that, he had already decided on it before the conversation, that much should be in his preparatory notes, it could of course be due to earlier mind-control but it's not (much) evidence on whether the additional ten minutes of speaking was dangerous. 

He explains where they're at with Altarrin's interrogation. He - was pretty open with it - but he definitely had planned on that in advance, because it's their half of the trade, Caris was going to save Altarrin and give him back rather than stealing him away to hide, and in exchange the Empire wasn't going to make him regret it. He thinks they need that, to go any further, and - 

 

 

- and he still thinks that's the right choice, because he would give it - hmm - three in four odds, maybe, that this is still salvageable and that trying to salvage it won't destroy the Empire. And he's certain Kastil had contingencies, so - if it goes badly, maybe they just lose but some of that is in worlds where they've as good as lost already, and in some edge-case scenarios, it means, maybe, that the Office of Inquiry has more to work with... 

Caris tells him the secret. He prods a bit - he doesn't think any of his questions were stupid - Caris was very cagey but that's understandable, he wasn't expecting to even get this much. He'd hoped the 'how long' question - which Caris claimed not to know but he's very sure that was a misleading not-technically-like and Caris does at least have some bounds on it - might get at ways to check this against the historical record rather than with Altarrin himself. ...Can he just do that, it was implied that Altarrin has 'come back' to the Empire at least once, which begs the question of who he was last time and that...seems like something that someone who knows him well ought to be able to guess at... 

Advice on what angles are safer to poke: gods in general, framing the question as 'what convinced you to trust Caris' rather than 'what did you talk about on that first night', it sounds like it should be safe to ask what he knows about Golarion, and magic - in general they would want to give him leeway to answer a question with what he thinks is most relevant and not hazardous to spread. 

Or he could ask the lead Mage-Inquisitor to find an interrogator willing to make a redacted report and be executed afterward. He doesn't like it - and it sort of requires not having a Thoughtsenser on hand, they don't have enough Thoughtsensers to start executing them for convenience - but it seems like it might help give a better sense of the constraints, to give alternatives. 

(Assuming the Velgarth gods can't get information from dead souls, if they know to look? Caris didn't seem worried about that, though, and honestly reasoning about gods makes his head hurt.) 

Caris gave some basically reasonable conditions. They're approximately the same as the proposal the Emperor had already written down – location known only to him, guards loyal only to him, contingencies for if he is himself incapacitated (though he'll need to figure out how to differentiate the case of "assassination by gods" and "assassination by the Office of Inquiry after confirming mind control.") If anything, he was inclined to be more generous and allow Caris some purely defensive magic – not the ability to cast spells, but maybe a Velgarth shield-talisman, which a mage can disable on Altarrin's orders but would offer some protection against a random god-driven earthquake. 

 

Caris wants to run some things by Altarrin. He agreed to allow that. Loosening Altarrin's compulsions to let him speak freely shouldn't be a stretch, you want that for a useful non-Thoughtsensing interrogation anyway, it's way too easy for someone like Altarrin to play the compulsion limiting speech off against the one that's supposed to compel him to answer to his full knowledge. That's probably at least some of why he was so intensely frustrating yesterday. (His confusion probably wasn't directly mind-control, given that he's better today, and confusion due to a high fever and being poisoned predicts recovery overnight more than confusion due to Caris having done something persistent to him when he healed him.)  

 

They agreed to speak in six candlemarks. The Emperor really would rather handle this himself, if nothing else it goes faster when they know their shared context, but he'll run that past the Mage-Inquisitor as well. 

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All right. Summary: he is still agnostic on whether he's been under mind-control since the first night with Caris but he's more confident than that in not being additionally mind-controlled by a ten-minute remote conversation. He would like the Office of Inquiry to question Altarrin, subject to certain conditions but they can negotiate on how to set those conditions up. He has a proposed list of topics to cover – honestly, learning about Caris' magic is the top priority, they know so little right now and he's pretty sure that, if they were plotting together on how to fight gods, Altarrin must know more. 

 

He will request a meeting with the (current) lead Mage-Inquisitor. 

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The Office of Inquiry did not, in fact, seriously consider attempting a coup against Emperor Bastran.

Part of that, of course, was that Mage-Inquisitor Kastil didn't want them to. He feared a civil war, and so his instructions were largely to stand down, rather than to start fighting. But he does not run the Office of Inquiry, and was not, actually, the prime mover in that.

Most of it is that the Department of State Security did not, in fact, come out of the most recent crisis all that well; the Office of Inquiry was only recently reconstructed, and it was reconstructed in part by Altarrin, who did not want it to start a civil war that might destabilize the Empire. It has had very little time to rebuild, as these things are counted; very little time, as the mages of the Eastern Empire count it, to sink its tendrils into every aspect of the state, rebuild its handful of 'security forces' into an army to challenge the legionary commanders and spread a shadow of fear across the Empire that does more for its power than anything else in the realm. It therefore could not win unless it got spectacularly lucky, and is not, by and large, insane enough to try when it would lose.

Therefore the Office's reaction to Mage-Inquisitor Kastil's arrest was, by and large, to take cover. A few people vanished with contingency orders, a few people vanished with a fear of knives, and most of the senior agents of political skill and political ambitions found somewhere the Empire vitally needed them to be outside the capital. (People who, like Kastil, will so wholly adapt the goals of the organization of their own as to subordinate their personal interests to the State are not so common that the Office of Inquiry largely consists of them; far more common are those who take their pay in hard power and soft influence and the fear in the eyes of those who see them, and there is no power to be gained in suffering an Emperor's wrath.)

This left Mage-Inquisitor Beatta, whose great-grandfather was shaman of a minor northern tribe that happened to adapt to the Empire astonishingly well and who is not particularly ambitious. Oh, she had to work hard to rise her present position, and she does enjoy power and respect, but she also means to be alive to enjoy them. She has therefore made sure that she was competent, not especially replaceable, and so boringly reliable that nobody was interested enough to want to purge her, engaging in an approximately average amount of graft and building up favors in a reasonably standard manner without making any particular enemies. It is her considered opinion that running and hiding in a corner somewhere will draw much more negative imperial attention than quietly accepting the designation of new head of this extremely cursed operation, where (given that Kastil burst into the Emperor's chamber to arrest the Emperor's lover and was merely imprisoned) she will probably just get fired if worst comes to worst, in which case she has more than enough favors owed and wealth accumulated to retire peacefully to the life of a minor untitled gentlewoman in a petty provincial city.

She is therefore available to meet the Emperor, at his pleasure.

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It's not an appointment that the Emperor is entirely happy about. He wanted someone clever, with a modicum of autonomy - they won't be Kastil, but he's not sure there is another Kastil, and besides, Kastil is still alive and cooperated with his arrest and will, very likely, also cooperate with being released and handed limited duties. Maybe. 

He's not incredibly worried about a coup - though he could badly use Altarrin to advise him here - but he's quite worried about, well, god-plots and unlucky miscommunications and implausibly unfortunate judgement calls. He needs someone who will, if handed a formal Imperial order to run the investigation in particular way, do that - or argue back, but do it anyway if he doesn't relent - rather than quietly finding ways to wriggle around it. And he needs someone who is doing the job at least mostly willingly; they don't have to like it, but he doesn't want to assign someone who will spend the entire time terrified, their compulsions fighting with their actual personal motivations. Beatta will do. 

 

They meet behind scrying shields, and he sets down his notes on the desk. 

"Caris contacted me, via the same spell as before, about negotiations for surrender. We spoke for about ten minutes. ...I have some summarized notes that I'm willing to share, mostly on my assessment of whether any of my in-the-moment judgement calls seem directly influenced by mind-control happening during the conversation. I think I wasn't, but - I won't ignore your impression, either, and it may go into my considerations of whether to continue future negotiations directly or assign an intermediary." 

He slides over a single page of notes. They're very summarized. Major decisions he made were:

- To decline ending the conversation and having Caris contact an intermediary. He had already decided beforehand to respond to any communications, but wasn't expecting Caris to offer. Bastran thinks it's reasonable that minimizing his own points of contact here is, while maybe a reasonable precaution longer term, lower priority than resolving things quickly

- He was fairly open about their status on questioning Altarrin, which is that they mostly haven't. Bastran's impression is that he made this decision beforehand, and stands by it, because Caris kept to his side of their initial bargain, in exchange he committed to - sticking to certain conditions when questioning Altarrin, which he'll explain in a minute - and he doesn't want to sabotage their talks unprovoked. Caris can demonstrably check what they're doing with Altarrin; they think they can disrupt the spell-focus without lethal backlash on everyone nearby, probably, but not instantly, and fully shielding out the otherworldly scrying-slash-communication spell is going to take longer than getting detection wards for it. 

- Caris unpacked some of his conditions for questioning Altarrin. Bastran did change his strategy here in response, but he thinks it was for actual reasons; namely, Caris proposed an alternative to his main strategy, which seems at least useful to convey as a baseline on what's acceptable. 

- Caris brought up conditions that he would require in order to surrender. They basically match Bastran's draft. He doesn't think he's especially changed his mind on what he thinks is reasonable to offer. 

 

What does Beatta think? She's welcome to take her time. 

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Beatta is clever! But she is not Kastil, no. Kastil was the person you picked for the Most Important Mission; he is in prison. The person you pick for The Second Most Important Mission had the advantage of also being very busy investigating possible treason in the provinces, and took advantage of this legitimate concern to be out of touch. At some point, you get Mage-Inquisitor Beatta.

"Understood, Your Majesty." She is not seriously considering the possibility that he made a severely terrible decision that she will have to call him on; these possibilities are not worth considering because they lead nowhere good. She will review the Very Summarized Notes (she had her own intra-Office summaries of the earlier events). "Your judgement does not appear to be compromised, Your Majesty, though in the event that Caris is hostile, giving him the power to suggest terms is dangerous, because they will cover weaknesses." Just, in general, they want to be the ones coming up with requirements.

"The chief risks to continued contact are less that Your judgement may be compromised, and more that having You be on-call for a foreign mage may interfere with Your other duties." (He is Emperor.) "The swifter this matter is settled, the better; alternatively, if there are any specialist-negotiators that Caris could trust, they could, perhaps, speak for you?"

"Altarrin, if Altarrin he is, may be under unknown mental effects. If any specialists in the 'mind-gifts' of foreign peoples can be find, they may have valuable insight into the nature of any effects he is under that mages specializing in the Imperial tradition may lack." Why does NOBODY get this at all. "If he is not under these compulsion-likes, specialists in them may be able to verify this more quickly than Imperial mages."

"I understand that there is information that I am not classified to know and will obey your commands." And will then just not try to know it. Seriously. (If there's anyone working on murdering Caris, that's in a different department. Beatta is in the Not Plotting Against Caris department.)

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...He has no idea how to track down a specialist in foreign 'mind-gifts.' The terribly ironic thing is that Altarrin would know, almost certainly, and also, pending ruling out mind control, they can't actually trust his recommendations. 

 

"I'm not sure any of my duties are more urgent than resolving this matter." He's put the (hopefully now temporary??) replacement Archmage-General on making sure they're tracking potential threats outside the capital; the investigation's final events were not exactly conducted quietly, and it's plausible that, unless immediately and firmly discouraged when they attempt it, someone might spot an opportunity for a local revolt. "And the plan is for Caris to contact me again in six candlemarks; I can spend some of that interval on routine matters. I - don't think there's anyone else Caris would trust enough, right now. Maybe we can work on that." 

He slides forward another page of notes. 

"Altarrin. I want to go ahead with a full interrogation; the Healers think he's recovered enough for it, though perhaps not enough to handle all day. There are two options, here, that will meet Caris' conditions. There...is information Altarrin knows that, if spread any more widely, would attract the attention of the gods and be very dangerous - it's already a risk that know. Caris was willing to heal him and return him to our custody only once I committed to making sure no one except myself would learn this secret. It - is relevant, but I don't think it's immediately or the most relevant to our main goals here, which are to learn more about Caris' magic and to determine whether Altarrin's judgement is sound.

"My original plan was to ask you nominate an investigator, and send them in under Imperial orders and compulsions not to get into certain topics. The main area to avoid is asking Altarrin to relate specific conversations in detail, and in particular, the content of what he and Caris discussed during the interlude when he was out of contact and had claimed to be in Iftel. Starting from the angle of what convinced him to put his trust in Caris, or to take certain moves like giving him a Thoughtsensing talisman or loosening his compulsions, is allowed. Asking about our gods in general is allowed. Asking about the other world and its magic ought to be fine, and I think that's what we need most urgently anyway." 

He lets out his breath. Ugh. This is terrible and– no feelings not the time. 

"The second option, which Caris proposed and which I don't approve of but seems useful as a comparison, is - we send in an interrogator with free reign, but they need to be executed afterward, to make very sure the secret doesn't fall into the hands of anyone aligned with any god. ...Personally I think that's overkill, compulsions and imprisonment ought to suffice, but Caris is understandably paranoid about godplots against himself and Altarrin, and unwilling to accept anything less. The interrogator could brief me fully, and separately make a complete report to you except with any mention of the secret redacted. It - gets us a much more thorough character assessment of Altarrin, probably. The interrogator will be better placed to judge whether Altarrin's decisions after Caris arrived were uncharacteristic of him at all, or just - reacting to new context. ...It has obvious downsides.

"Finally, I propose we place a compulsion on him against active attempts to deceive us, and calibrate it with a Thoughtsenser first and do a quick check afterward, but not have a Thoughtsenser reading him during. I know that's not standard protocol, but in terms of both Caris' conditions and the worry about contagious mind control, my impression is that it makes sense. We'll also want to slightly weaken the compulsions, at least to let him talk freely, he'll be able to play the 'only answer direct questions' requirement against the truthfulness compulsion. The number of volition-affecting ones we have on him are going to make him need a lot of prompting, but - less able to steer - we could see how that goes." 

 

He sits back. "What do you think?" 

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"Your Majesty, I do not have any competent, loyal, expendable interrogators," she says. Best to get that line of questioning closed off right there. "I do not think we would get good information, out of an interrogator serving under compulsion," nor would she surrender a subordinate to the axe, here. "Every sacrifice you make of information we can gather is a sacrifice to our odds of discerning whether or not he is compelled to be a traitor, but it is Your right to make these sacrifices for the good of the Empire." The Emperor already knows this and she should prooooobably not say it but she does have some professional pride. "I understand the conditions and have agents qualified to interrogate him without looking into the Iftel episode." And to get as much as possible about Caris's world's magic as possible. "I would recommend Junior Inquisitor Restra, if this pleases you." She's not a mage, and she's young, but she's not going to refrain from asking questions because of the fear that Altarrin will take vengeance afterwards, and she's careful. "Here are my suggestions for appropriate interrogation-compulsions -" she has a list, which was written beforehand and approximately corresponds with the Emperor's, albeit from a position of more experience with precise compulsion-wording.

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"Understood. I wasn't expecting it of your people - I wonder if Caris finds it more reasonable, since his world supposedly has planes where dead people go." 

And he'll sign off on the suggested Inquisitor and the suggested compulsions. They're not going to have a very functional Altarrin with that many restrictions still on his thinking, but that's a good thing, probably, in the world where Altarrin is on their side is that a mind-controlled thought, he has no idea, and of course if they're in one of the bad scenarios then fewer compulsions is dangerous... 

 

"The other question is whether to inform him of recent events. I haven't, yet, and it seemed yesterday that he doesn't actually remember why he decided to Gate into the Emperor's suite, though now that he's clearer-headed he might dig it up with enough prompting. ...I think he'd be willing to cooperate and try to help us, if he knows that Caris is - not here - and negotiations are in progress. But of course there are risks to telling him anything, one of them being that if he is compromised, he'll know which way to steer us. ...I don't know. I lean toward not, but I will let your Inquisitor make the judgement call, if it seems likely that filling him in on some of what he missed will help." 

 

(He misses Kastil, which is sort of an absurd way to feel when yesterday he was terrified that Kastil would prevent this from working out entirely.) 

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She nods. "Understood." That is indeed a reasonable point about how people from a world with an afterlife might feel. (Her judgement was just that Caris was a terrible boss.)

"I will allow my Inquisitor to make that judgement," and she will make it on a basis that has nothing at all to do with the truth. What you tell people usually doesn't, in interrogation sessions.

Does the Emperor have any more directions before she can go do her job she is dismissed?

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She is dismissed! 

He will tell the Healers to prepare Altarrin for questioning– er, he doesn't mean warning him, to be clear, just making sure he's awake and cleaned up and anything that would be an interruption is gotten out of the way. He informs them that a mage will be coming by to adjust Altarrin's compulsions. The Thoughtsenser on-site - who does not seem especially mind controlled and certainly isn't sympathetic to either Altarrin or Caris, the cause of his being dragged into an unwanted and inconvenient assignment where he can't even leave his room most of the time - will spend five minutes testing the truthfulness compulsion with trivial questions and making sure the current level of compulsions-that-affect-planning doesn't, like, take out Altarrin's ability to speak in complete sentences. 

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...The Healers can do that. They're worried but also faintly relieved. Caring for a patient who approximately can't communicate his needs, and who is stable and improving now but was kind of terrifyingly dying until the alien healing magic and what if the alien magic stops working - and who is also withdrawn and miserable and they're having a time coaxing him to cooperate at all with things like "eating and drinking" - is kind of a terrible assignment, actually. 

 

The mage alters compulsions. The Thoughtsenser will read Altarrin while running him through test questions like "what color is the sky" and "try to tell me the moon is made of cake." 

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Altarrin seems to be mentally capable of speaking in complete sentences, though he often won't bother unless clearly and directly instructed to. The compulsions are not letting him lie. He is still just as withdrawn and miserable and will cooperate with this process exactly to the extent they can force out of him. When asked even slightly difficult arithmetic questions, he defaults to "I don't know" but can be dragged through doing mental math with enough insistence. 

 

(- he could definitely be coping better than this. He feels vaguely unwell, but at this point he's mostly weak and shaky and lightheaded from 24 candlemarks without really eating anything, the fever is broken and the headache is gone. Being trapped and helpless is awful and he's startling at any unexpected sound - mentally, mostly, though sometimes it makes it past the compulsions not to move if it's sufficiently involuntary - and his mind keeps going into spirals of panic and he is not, really, trying to do anything about this. It does not seem to be in his interests to try to be more functional, right now.) 

He can guess they're about to interrogate him and - maybe without Thoughtsensing, since they're doing the calibration checks, but he's not counting on that. He's not planning to try to steer this because he has no idea what's happening and is bouncing off a dozen different mental walls when he tries to make plans and he's quietly resigned and terrified but basically to the same extent he has been for the last day. 

(He's approximately not a mage, right now, but his Gifts aren't blocked, and he has decades of practice. He can mount some degree of native shield without using mage-gift at all - not that the compulsions are allowing it right now - but he can also usually detect Thoughtsensing. Unless it's done very skillfully, and that Thoughtsenser looked decidedly...chosen to be expendable. He - still isn't going to put very much weight on it. Maybe there's a better Thoughtsenser outside the room. But it's information.) 

 

It's presumably taking them a bit to get an interrogation room set up, or something. He waits. 

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This is the point at which that distinctive scrying signature shows up again.

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The Emperor did warn them that this was probably going to happen, and that it's an essential part of the ongoing negotiations and should not be interfered with. They should avoid doing anything that spooks Altarrin into refusing to answer Caris' questions, such as having a mage burst into his cell. They cannot, obviously, promise privacy, and neither party would believe it anyway, but they're not to read Altarrin's mind. He has a reasonable chance of noticing and might refuse to talk to Caris on those grounds alone. 

The Healer gets a Mindspeech message and twitches. 

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Altarrin cannot sense the scrying signature without mage-sight, and isn't looking in the Healer's direction right now; he doesn't notice. 

 

(He's clearly awake, though, wearing a clean infirmary shift and propped up to a half-sitting position. He's staring woodenly at the wall.) 

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"Altarrin?" She'd prefer he be able to speak, but wasn't counting on it, and doesn't want to wait half the scry hoping for it. A reaction would be enough.

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Altarrin's eyes widen and he startles enough that he jerks involuntarily in the bed. And then goes back to limp stillness, it certainly looks like he's compulsioned not to move.

He can speak, but it takes him a few seconds to calm himself enough that his voice is working. "Carissa?" His voice cracks. "Are you -" He's almost crying, which is currently very inconvenient but is predictably what will happen once he's spent an entire day being miserable and not even trying to be less miserable and refusing to eat because not eating will make him worse at things and he's– he was so lonely, hearing Carissa's voice is like coming to the surface to breathe when he's been holding his breath underwater for minutes...

 

- Focus. He needs to change strategy, he is not going to get to 'okay' in the next thirty seconds but if Carissa is risking a spell that might be traceable then this must be important and she needs - so he desperately needs to be -

...ugh, planning block. Just. Calm. Breathe. He is not at all going to be able to direct a conversation right now so he really hopes Carissa has a plan. And knows that they're obviously being watched, but Carissa isn't stupid.

 

(From the outside, it's pretty obvious to Carissa that he's initially panicking at the sudden contact, and then upset, and then - re-evaluating, but disoriented or something, struggling against something invisible presumably the compulsions he's under - and now trying to compose himself but with considerably more apparent difficulty than she's ever observed him to have before.) 

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"We have some time," she says, dryly. "They'll be trying to trace the spell and they'll have an interesting time of it if they succeed. - I wanted to prove it's me, first off." Because obviously an interrogator would feign this, if they wanted Altarrin paying attention and trying. And it's a nontrivial task because it can't be anything he already knows; it has to be in the character of what he knows, as judged by him, while not being something you could invent having only him and not Carissa.

"Dath ilan doesn't have afterlives. What they do is, they freeze people, every person who dies, just their heads because that's the part where all the information is, at very cold temperatures that suffice for high quality long term preservation, and in the future, when they know how, they're going to bring them all back from the dead. And if you murder someone - unless you're really a monster - you would want them to get found in time for their head to be frozen.

And so they have the Surreptitious Head Removers. They won't do a murder for you. They won't dispose of the rest of the body for you. But they will, to the best of their ability, arrive discreetly and silently to the scene of the crime and remove the head to freeze. And they will never tell anyone that you called them, or act in any way that might let someone learn your identity via that route, and the police, for their part, will conduct an investigation that makes no assumptions from the missing head, not even that it was a murder rather than an accident.

The question we all thought of, when Keltham told us, was why dath ilani were stupid enough to believe that. I haven't - totally ruled out that they were in fact governed by an evil conspiracy, so take this with a grain of salt, but - you could check, right -. You could do an analysis of murder cases and clearance rates, you could notice the ways that headless cases were different, and the information you got would be very muddy but the world's sewn together too tightly to lie without traces, and they have a billion people, and - there are actually just very big important differences, that show up, between being the kind of person who'll break your word if it suits you and being the kind of person who wouldn't in any future any god could see or bring. I would - want to run the statistics myself, probably, if I found myself there, but -"

 

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(The Healer is supposed to be trying to listen in on the conversation and taking notes. It turns out this is kind of hard because the other side of it is pretty tightly targeted on Altarrin and she has to put her head kind of right next to his but she can get most of it.) 

Okay what the actual fuck. 

 

Uh. 

 

The Healer is...really not sure if that's a state secret that she isn't allowed to know and now she's going to spend the rest of her life in prison or maybe die. Although. What kind of state secret is that - what could that possibly mean - what is a dath ilan and how does this have anything to do with anything here - 

 

A mage scrying the room and the Healer's notepad from another facility is now rather urgently relaying a message to the Emperor and Mage-Inquisitor Beatta because what. Just. What. 

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Altarrin is not processing very well and still trying to wrestle the pointless panic attack under control and he only realizes that he should be suspicious of this a second before Carissa says the same thing. 

He tries very hard to pay attention. ...No that makes it worse, the compulsions don't especially want him doing that. He...doesn't try to do anything he's just here words are happening - 

 

 

 

 

- that is absolutely a fact about dath ilan and he can't even think about whether it's a good idea right now that's strategy but definitely there is no one else in the Empire who would ever in a million years successfully invent something a hundredth that convincing even if they thought to try which they wouldn't, they're going to be focused on the magic - 

- oh the statistics thing is clever - Carissa is clever - and Carissa is fine and safe and - no don't cry now - 

"S'you," he manages, and - ugh - the thing where the compulsions don't want him strategizing is going to work in his favor during a hostile interrogation but it's incredibly irritating right now. Relax, let his instincts do it...

"What. Happened. ...M'under compulsions. Cannot. Really think. Sorry." He can manage full sentences when they're demanding that he be coherent but apparently not otherwise, at least not if he's doing anything even vaguely of the direction of 'considering that maybe Carissa can get him out' -  

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Carissa isn't speaking very quickly, because he's obviously not in great shape -- he's presumably been tortured all day -- but she's not pausing for long either; their time is limited. 

"Yesterday morning you Gated into the Emperor's suite with a note taped to your chest warning me the Inquisition suspected me of your death. I left, as I should obviously have done days ago, I'm sorry, and then with undisclosed means I determined that you were still alive, but dying, and that your world didn't have any magic that could've saved you. 

And so I spent a while thinking about - Surreptitious Head Removers, and whether, without a devil at their side, humans will ever just - 

I told the Emperor to dump you through a Gate for me to heal. I wasn't all that sure. I gave it a thirty percent chance, maybe, they'd rigged you to kill me, and a ten, fifteen percent chance they'd succeed. I've never - for anyone - I've done it for everyone, but that's different, I'm part of everyone - and I don't even think I was miscalculating out of emotional attachment, I think I was right!

- I asked the Emperor to - not make me worse off than if you'd died. Not ask you questions the gods would benefit from them getting out of you. I am checking in among other things to see if they are abiding by the deal, there. If tomorrow, your assessment is that they're not - well, they'll probably make you try to lie to me. But I don't think you'll be very good at it. Do you understand me?"

 

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He doesn't remember that, but - he wouldn't, he Gated into the Emperor's suite, of course the Imperial guards would have immediately hit him with everything they had and he was already badly injured, he would have known it would kill him - it's if anything surprising he survived long enough for Carissa to negotiate that - 

 

- he is not going to say he would rather be dead than here. Not when Carissa risked her life, risked dying forever unless somehow someday he succeeds without her and gets her back. He - hadn't imagined she could decide to do that, it's, he can't even think about what it means, with his head like this, except that it's the opposite of loneliness -

And he's not even sure it's true, not if Carissa is fr– ...the compulsions don't like that line of thought. 

 

He remembers the Gate. 

He understands what Carissa is saying, he thinks, though he's not sure anyone else possibly could, it's– she saw the thing he recognized about dath ilan, the thing he wanted even if he didn't especially want the policy on destroying worlds as ugly as his own. 

 

"I understand you. I - do not think they questioned me yet. Might not remember. Do not...think Bastran would. Break his word. If...tomorrow...?" That question is not going to make it through the fact that he is absolutely not allowed to think about ways he might get away from here. 

 

(- his loyalty compulsion to the Emperor is gone, though. And his compulsion to the Empire is gone, it feels weird and empty behind all the gluey walls in his head - there's presumably something there, a different wording that for many people would come out to the same thing, but he's wrapped his mind around the usual compulsion in a very specific way and the replacement doesn't do it, isn't something he can actually lean his intrinsic motivation system on, it's - indistinguishable from the other walls. He would have coped better with the last day, he thinks, if he still had 'serve the Empire' pulling him forward, it's standard policy to snip it and reduce opportunities to play compulsions against each other but he thinks they would have gotten more out of him -) 

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"My plan is to surrender, if they can convince me I won't die in custody, if you when you're allowed to think think I won't die in custody, and then the Emperor can - know everything, and make the best call he can.

I know your plan was for you to die and me to run, and maybe it's stupid of me to have done anything else when you're obviously wildly more competent at this, but - the gods would only have had to somehow slip the Inquisition my location once -"

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And she thought the Emperor could protect her, presumably, but - he's not going to try to debrief that mistake right now. He's got more than enough of his own mistakes to go over first, once - as Carissa says - he can think. 

 

"Not sure they will. Let me think." 

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"I'm not turning myself in until you say it's safe. You know what serves the Empire" and whatever you tell me to do had better serve the Empire or I can't do it. 

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Which makes perfect sense and also he doesn't feel like he has any angle on it, right now. 

"You could ask the Emperor?" He can say it without really thinking and to the extent he is it's idle curiosity not a request, and apparently that lets him get it past his compulsion not to try even indirect routes to modify his other compulsions. (It hurts afterward, though. He winces.) 

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"We're talking. I told him I wanted you to think about and approve the precautions. 

- I am scared. I know roughly what they'll do to us and it's not easy to walk into, or leave you to. But it serves the Empire, and - well, I figured that with rescuing you I'd get a lot of information about whether I can trust the Emperor."

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He can’t nod. “Mmm.”

(He’s so scared - mostly not even for situational reasons, probably, just because he nearly died a couple of times in a row and woke up paralyzed falling out of the sky, and now his mind is stuck in the pattern, which he could fix in a couple of days of processing if he could think but he can’t and that is, in itself, terrifying -

- and Carissa is right. It would go worse if she got him out - probably she literally can’t, the compulsions - but, also, it’s more likely they would lose)

And - try to find words - it’s even harder for abstract concepts -

“Under constraints,” he manages. “But - wants to. I think. If you - give him a path to follow - tried, before, explain—” alright seriously why do his compulsions hate the concepts of coordination or making agreements and trades, which serve the empire and don’t involve plotting his escape “—like, head removers - people, things, good…”

This is the STUPIDEST mental handicap and he doesn’t have any mental tools for it - should have practiced - probably frowned upon but it would clearly (the loadbearing “serve the Empire” still isn’t there) would have helped -

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"Yeah. I'm trying. I'll keep trying. We saved your head, anyway, didn't even have to remove it. And maybe I should be sorry but I'm not.

...I'm trying to keep the scries short so they don't track them. Is there anything else you wanted to know -"

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He is not sure he's entirely parsing that but it's reassuring anyway. 

 

He wants Carissa to hug him and huh, what is that want even attached to, it's not - something he usually wants - maybe it's because all of the reasonable and goal-achieving Carissa-related things are banned thoughts - none of that is a question anyway. “No.”

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"Kay. Bye." If they were speaking Infernal she could wish him that his torture be as the fires of the forge, which strengthens, and not as the fire that consumes and reduces, but one she barely speaks infernal and two probably this would panic the many inevitable listeners about whether she serves Asmodeus.

 

She did this scry while the scrying mirror was in the Rope Trick but she was herself outside it, so that if they did manage to Gate in there'd be a dimensional barrier that'd block a Final Strike from getting to her. She's itching to develop a scrying/Rope Trick artifact that does that more organically and less stupidly, it totally seems like the kind of thing that could be done, but she already has such a crafting to-do list and is probably going to surrender tomorrow. 


She takes the Rope Trick down and flies off to set up another one.

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Carissa is safe  (well, ish, but if she reached the cave she'll have supplies, and she should have just fine they still haven't gotten location from him) and she has–  it's not guaranteed to work, they won't get lucky– but Bastran is still willing to talk to Carissa then, then what he was afraid of already didn't happen... Carissa isn't going to be stupid, Bastran isn't going to be stupid, they should both know to look out for apparent betrayals that might not be that after all, it's...

...maybe this turns out all right after all. Somehow. Sort of. 

He feels a very confusing mix of hopeful and desperately lonely and exhausted and he should stop trying to have coherent thoughts, they're presumably going to interrogate him and now additionally want to know what that was all about, and...fine the path of least resistance here is to just. Start crying. Apparently it doesn't count as voluntary enough to be blocked and probably Carissa would have some kind of vague Asmodean negative judgement but it's going to make it inconvenient for them to interrogate him immediately and while he's mostly unable to take actions on purpose it's going to be hard to stop

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Uh. 

 

 

That was bizarre and the Healer missed some words and didn't understand half the rest of them and is not really sure what the plan is now! Are they...still doing the interrogation? If this were a normal situation she would insist they give the poor man a few minutes but in this case they probably want him as off-balance as possible? 

 

 

(A transcript of the parts the Healer did manage to catch, which is everything on Altarrin's end and probably 75% of Carissa's end, is currently being prepared for Bastran and Mage-Inquisitor Beatta.) 

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Carissa spoke to Altarrin. 

 

 

He was expecting it. That was the plan. He - had vaguely been expecting it would be either right away or not for a while, and it ended up very awkwardly timed - poor Altarrin - that might be a mind-control thought and he's certainly not going to call off an interrogation just because the prisoner is upset but actually he thinks it's not a mind-control thought. It's...the thing Altarrin used to chide him about, not being ruthless enough. Well. He's going to be ruthless enough ANYWAY and just...sad about it, apparently. 

 

He should probably think about the implications of the message from Caris but he did promise to do some routine work and maybe he can batch it for when they're a few candlemarks in on the interrogation and he has clearer information to work from. 

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Junior Inquisitor Restra is not a mage, which is a severe disadvantage to advancement in the Eastern Empire. She was born with a life expectation of almost forty years and will die in her seventies if she is lucky, and under ordinary circumstances would have not even the slightest chance of making it to the level where she is chosen to interrogate an Archmage-General.

It turns that that there actually is, however, a level of loyalty to the Empire that will suffice to overcome this disadvantage, at least when combined with intelligence, ruthlessness, and a willingness to spend the smoking remnants of her family fortune on rising to a position where she can serve the empire. The Junior Interrogator does prefer to die framed for treason by a disgruntled ex-political prisoner than in an Imperial civil war, and will not compromise that for any bribe that an Archmage-General can offer. And she has an excellent shield-talisman.

She'll ask for Altarrin to be brought to one of the nicer interrogation-rooms. (He probably won't take it to mean anything, but it might help.) He'll there find a comfortable chair he can be lowered into, suitable for a man of his age, and across a table a surprisingly young woman whose hair is still all black, looking at some sheets of paper that he can only see the backs of.

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Altarrin could theoretically have walked over unaided if clearly and explicitly ordered to do so, but in fact after days of being bedridden (or floor-ridden, when he was trapped in his– random secure bug-out location), he's incredibly lightheaded and shaky on his feet and two Healers needed to help him. It's a little better once he's sitting down, and the compulsions don't seem to consider "continuing to hold his torso upright" an action. He suspects he'll be worn out physically after a few candlemarks out of bed - which could well be deliberate on the interrogators' part - but on some level he appreciates not being questioned while in bed in his cell. 

He's not crying anymore and doesn't even look obviously miserable, just resigned and blank. He waits. 

 

 

He's decided to try not to immediately fall apart again. If there's a plan - (no, compulsions, not a plan to escape a plan to serve the Empire calm down ow) - if Carissa and Bastran are negotiating then maybe they can avoid a stupid pointless wasteful war. Altarrin is in favor of avoiding stupid pointless wasteful wars. He's - not going to try on purpose to actively cooperate until it's clear where this is going and if it seems like it would help he's going to ask to be under fewer volition-affecting compulsions than this so he can think, but. Maybe? It's no longer definitely the case that he's in enemy hands. 

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"Archmage-General Altarrin. The crisis is over. We are coming to terms with your ally, Carissa Sevar, on what terms she will return to service to the Empire. Since your murder did not occur, she is not under suspicion for it, and she is accused of no crime. At this point, we are simply trying to find out what happened, so His Majesty the Emperor can have an accurate picture of the situation for the decisions he needs to make. Do you understand me?"

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That's - better than he had hoped. He's suspicious, of course - and really, really doubts that the crisis is in fact over, or that the situation is that conclusively fine, or that everyone is on board with 'Carissa committed no crime' - but under this many compulsions he's not very good at being suspicious. And it's - the obvious thing, right, an investigation was opened into a godassassination plot whose target survived, so the original premise is false, though of course it came very close. 

 

"Yes. What - do you need to know." He's very unclear on what they already know. 

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"Why did you go to visit the spellsilver mine?"

(She wants to go over what happened right before his apparent death first, since that's important for the question of just how much contact there was between Carissa and Vkandis, if any. Also because the Empire... genuinely doesn't know.)

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This is fine. He can talk about this. 

"There were - problems - suspicious coincidence problems. Had been for weeks - not immediately when it was founded, later, but it was a pattern. I went myself because it was high priority, for non-public reasons - I was keeping Carissa low profile to avoid godattention and court politics attention - and so I had unshared context and it would have been - more difficult to delegate to someone and have them know what to look for." 

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"And what happened when you made it there?"

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He frowns. This is not something that made it into any notes and it's been a distracting few days. 

"...Gated in late. Slept– ...no. Ordered mine evacuated first. Looked at worker list, did - first pass profiling - arrested three most likely Vkandis cultists. I think. Then slept. Did some work, cast detection spells. Questioned workers, went over incident records. They were - incomplete, missing key facts. Needed to see myself - detection spells not widely known by my mage-guard. Made sure everyone was accounted for before I went down. With the lead engineering manager. ...I think. Maybe another person. A guard, not sure." 

 

(This is not obviously a surprising amount of forgetfulness for someone recounting events from days ago who had several near-death experiences in the meantime. If anything, Altarrin has a better memory than most eyewitnesses.) 

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She nods understandingly. "When did it go wrong?"

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"First was - I think it was bad air - I felt suddenly unwell. Did not affect anyone else or trigger detection wards for flammable gas, I think it was - isolated gas, alchemists call it, it interacts with nothing but displaces air. Would have been the one heavier than air. I crouched down to examine damaged equipment. Everyone else was standing. ...I did not put this together at the time, only later, cannot check it now. Probably that. I had...also been overworking, and was slightly injured, might have been more susceptible than others." 

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She nods again. "And then?"

 

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"I - suppose someone - oh, I think it was my mage-secretary, the third person - someone called a Healer? I was not fully tracking what was happening, for a minute or two - they must have helped me out of the lowest mine section, I remember sitting down in a tunnel we had passed through earlier. The Healer arrived. Wanted to make sure I was stable enough to walk out of the mine, I think, before attempting that. ...There were footsteps in the tunnel behind. Should not have been anyone else authorized to enter, and I - mage-sight - sensed blood-power. The Healer looked– ...I knew she knew. I - reacted, before I was sure what was happening, started to raise a Gate out - slow, I was still groggy - and then, fire. I assume Final Strike. Did not have time to analyze it." 

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"And then what?"

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"I....can infer I successfully Gated out. To a - supply cache I had used while on campaign," see that is not false he uses his records caches all the time including on campaign, "it was a panic-reaction. I woke up - it must have been many candlemarks later, and I was very badly injured with severe backlash. Considered ways to report in, but - too drained for a Gate, too drained for the comms spell, trapped. I - tried to bandage my wounds and. Waited. To have enough reserves to cast anything." 

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She nods understandingly. (She is, perhaps, less impressed than a mage-inquisitor would be, at having a reflex of opening a horizontal unthresholded gate when on fire and suffering from oxygen deprivation and having it work.) "And when did you stop waiting?"

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"I was not tracking time very closely. I...think within a day I must have been capable of minor casting again. ...And I had - put together that the Healer was involved - if it had been a deliberate plot on me, it - might not be safe to Gate to the nearest depot, or - I have political enemies, everyone does - preferable not to be in the capital either while clearly vulnerable and the plot might be active there too. ...I may not have been thinking clearly. Given the injuries." 

 

And now it's taking genuine effort to piece the sequence together. He was in agonizing pain at the time, probably half-delirious. 

"...I had a scrying focus in the supplies. Tried to scry the north, see what was happening. And the capital - I was worried about Carissa, since she would believe me dead, and had been under my protection." 

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"About her, in particular, because of -" Her voice suggests an obvious explanation without quite ending the sentence.

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Okay, surely this is obvious to them - maybe not, maybe they're sufficiently confused to wonder if he really was just, what, in love with her? Sleeping with her? 

 

"She is a wizard from another world with magic we cannot replicate, she wants to fight the gods and build afterlives for us, and - she is, I think, clever and ambitious to achieve that, with local allies and aid. She is a priceless resource to the Empire."

And to so much more, but 'the Empire' is after all part of the world that Carissa wants to fix.

"I am - to an extent personally fond of her, but. Downstream of those reasons. I tend to become personally fond of my close colleagues when they are competent." 

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Junior Inquisitor Restra nods as if this was exactly what she expected.

(There are people who would have said "because she's sleeping with the Emperor" and she does, indeed, respect Altarrin more because he isn't one of them.)

(She respected him a good deal before that, too, what with how he brought an end to the anarchy and saved the Empire, but the whole interrogation is about is determining if these reasons to respect him still apply.)

"What did she tell you about her world?" This is a good way to lead into that all-important topic.

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That is a BIG topic and the compulsions on his mind are making it hard to strategize an order. 

"Different magic. Different gods. Different geopolitics. Which do you want to know about first." 

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"The magic."

This is absolutely not for selfish reasons in the slightest.

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Well, it's in fact the most applicable here in Velgarth! The other two only really matter as background, and if he ever - but it seems unlikely - finds a way to do interplanar Gates and Golarion is...even in the same continuum of planes, if that's a thing. 

He can talk about this too. It's a little harder than usual not to ramble but the information is in his head and he's doing what he's been ordered to, the compulsions are happy. 

(Is it a good idea for Carissa's safety to talk about– compulsions are not letting him take that into account. Compulsions are not really letting him consider a strategy to downplay some aspects. Whoever did his is good.) 

"There are two kinds. - More, but complicated and I know less. Arcane magic – wizardry – can be learned by anyone, though it requires high intelligence. There is also divine magic, but it is directly granted by their gods and I know less about it - I think it does healing better, and there are differences in which spells are possible at various levels– their spells come in discrete levels of complexity and power, it has to do with topology, it will be more obvious if you watch them being prepared and cast. Wizards can learn arbitrary numbers of spells but cast only a certain number per day, based on reserves, and up to their maximum level based on total channeling capacity and whether they are intelligent enough to learn a spell. Reserves and channeling capacity increase with experience over years, unlike with mages. Intelligence can be enhanced with spells or artifacts. ...Artifacts use spellsilver, it has its own energy-reserves, I think mages ought also be able to work with it if we develop the techniques and we just never had reason to mine it and discover this before.

"Spells include ones similar to ours - shields, attacks, scrying, communication, instantaneous transport more like Fetching and Gating, illusions, invisibility though theirs is better - and also ones well beyond us. The intelligence enhancement, and other techniques for different cognitive capacities, they distinguish intelligence and wisdom and also 'Splendor' which is - diplomacy, it is the headband I wore. I had a ring that replaces food and meant I needed only two candlemarks of sleep per night. ...Their magic is also missing some abilities our mages have - they cannot modify spells once prepared, they need to cast a spell for mage-sight and I think the spell is much worse..." 

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Junior Inquisitor Restra wants absolutely everything he can give about wizards (for many reasons, chief of which is the information it gives them about Carissa), and will spend quite a while decrypting his messages and teasing out details, a job for which she is highly qualified. She doesn't want to spend that much time on it, but it is the highest-priority thing, both to determine the value of Carissa as an asset and to learn how to kill her if they need to.

Topics she is particularly interested in: Local equivalents of compulsions! How in all the hells enhancing Splendor works! Their odds of reinventing wizardry if Carissa bites it! (She is not going to phrase any of these questions anywhere near that way.)

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Compulsions: exist, have the usual problem where only certain spells stabilize so they're less flexible, are much more expensive. Lowest level versions only make people like you or nudge them to do something they might plausibly have done anyway, and last minutes to hours, and he suspects they're, at the moment of casting, still a lot more obvious to mage-sight than a Velgarth compulsion, though he hasn't seen one – on reflection Golarion wizards benefit a lot from the fact that it takes a special spell active to see another spell being cast, if it doesn't have ordinarily visible effects. 

The first truly compulsion-like version is already high enough that wizards who can cast it are relatively rare and it's temporary, and Geas (the permanent version) is a higher level than what Carissa can cast. They're going to be incredibly visible to mage-sight, a sixth-circle spell is - a level more powerful than Teleport, he is sort of imagining they've managed to observe that one by now. A wizard can only cast a few per day. Carissa's home country is like the Eastern Empire in a lot of ways but cannot rely on compulsions. 

 

He doesn't really have any idea how enhancing Splendor works! It's - not using the same mechanism as any Velgarth Gift, he got that far, but the research project ran aground on there being a thousand other things to do.

 

He thinks he could invent wizardry, given a year or two, he's seen Carissa prepare spells and make artifacts enough times. He would probably start out minimally powerful and have to get into fights and use wizard magic under combat conditions to gain channeling capacity and reserves, as an experienced mage it's just strictly less useful than existing magic, the real potential is to teach smart but un-Gifted people. And the artifacts, which on top of doing impossible things don't need repowering. 

 

...Possibly a team of brilliant research-mages, knowing that wizardry is possible and having some sample artifacts, could figure it out from scratch in a decade or two. 

 

(The compulsions don't want Altarrin to move, but he's visibly drooping at this point. If he could move he would be really tempted to put his forehead down on the table.) 

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(This will absolutely appear on the report with the words 'Altarrin claims Carissa claims' attached, and 'her wizardry can cause you to be charmed by the caster'.) She's taking lots and lots of notes.

... If he is drooping, they are going to have a brief break in which he can nap and get another Healing-boost and drink some water; the interrogation isn't over yet, but they'll lose the ability to convince him they're friendly if they keep pushing him too late.

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...That's more considerate than Altarrin was expecting. 

 

(He is not, currently, exactly under the impression this is friendly. He's pretty sure it's just in their interests to make it look friendly on the surface. ...Doesn't matter, really, they'll get the answers from him either way and he retains more steering this way than being forcibly mindread, not to mention it's less miserable. He's actually - mostly not miserable or terrified, right now, it won't help and he's definitely feeling resigned and exhausted but he doesn't feel helpless.) 

A thirty-minute break will not get him as far as 'not exhausted' but he's no longer feeling faint after some water and Healing-energy, and he can manage to sit upright. 

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Right then.

In that case the next stage is to start asking him more about Golarion. She'll start with a few simple questions about divine magic (including "do you think our gods can figure out how") before moving on to Asmodeus and Cheliax.

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Altarrin has no idea if the Velgarth gods could figure out how. He...doubts it...? The Golarion gods seem much more - orderly - than the Velgarth gods, better at communicating with mortals, probably better at communicating with each other. He doesn't have a huge amount of detail on this but they have treaties, presumably not literal written and signed treaties, but that kind of - enduring contract. If he thought that the two sets of gods were in contact he would be less sure but he really, really doesn't think that, Carissa's mode of transport is philosophically confusing but - not really magical, and does not imply a connection between the worlds. 

 

Asmodeus: Lawful Evil. ...Backing up, Golarion has 'alignments' which are somehow ontologically basic - there are literally spells to measure them - and don't map exactly to the names Carissa gave as translated into Imperial but aren't that far off. Good, Neutral, Evil: Murder and slavery are evil, feeding orphans is Good, merchant trade is neutral. Lawful, Neutral, Chaotic: Lawful is keeping your word, obeying the law, working with the system, Chaotic is - not that? He got a terrible definition of it from Carissa, honestly, but...valuing freedom over all else is maybe the most charitable gloss? 

- wait another step back: afterlives! There are nine planes where souls go after dead, sorted in a three-by-three grid by the alignment categories, with gods associated with them. Mortals are - sorted?? he is unclear on the process - by a god of sorting. Gods are...fixed in their alignment, in a way he doesn't think mortals are or can be. 

Asmodeus is Lawful Evil. Lawful: keeps agreements and contracts, can be trusted in trades - mostly with other gods, but also with mortals although you would, presumably, have to be very ambitious or an idiot to try it, but he has a very vague recollection that maybe the Queen of Cheliax has one. Evil: into slavery and torture and getting more souls into his Lawful Evil torture afterlife.

It's very unclear why Golarion has a torture-and-slavery god! They also have a god who only values destroying the world, their god pantheon is in some ways more disturbing than Velgarth's, even if it sounds like they also might have downright agreeable gods – there's one of commerce and trade! Lawful Neutral. He's blanking on the name but it's relevant because Carissa's ex-lover, who's from a third world and arrived in Golarion via the same metaphysically baffling transport method, was chosen by him for the divine magic thing– 

 

 

...he should possibly back up some more. Being under compulsions is making it really hard to organize his thoughts. 

(He hadn't really been planning to get into the matter of dath ilan, it's - it's very relevant, in some ways, to why he thinks Carissa is worth so much, but it's also bizarre and a distraction and not something either of them can prove. The issue is that he's under compulsions that don't really let him plan, as is surely the entire point.) 

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(... Third world???)

"Of course. Take as long as you need."

(Junior Inquisitor Restra is kind of confused. This is not, really, surprising, but she's still confused anyway. She'll do her best to help him function at telling them everything relevant, which is after all her job.)

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(This takes almost a candlemark and a lot of prompting; Altarrin is tired, and he mostly hasn't thought much about dath ilan in weeks, and he can't think ahead more than a step or two. But she can get it out of him, and put it in order herself.) 

 

 

Everything he knows of dath ilan is secondhand and biased by the fact that Carissa kind of hates them, mostly for– it's complicated but the simple version is because she split with her lover acrimoniously. 

However, giving that caveat: dath ilan is very very extremely Lawful in Golarion terms, everyone there seems to just - cooperate all the time, it was previously unclear if they had crime although he did recently learn they apparently have murders. They for the most part trust their government despite the fact that they rehearse overthrowing it just in case it comes up. They don't have magic at all, or gods, at least as far as the knowledge of an ordinary young man with no authority or access to state secrets. They invest heavily in training techniques for "thinking better" which were apparently directly useful in Golarion for purifying spellsilver more efficiently. They are very, very wealthy and advanced in non-magical engineering, compared to Golarion and especially to Velgarth. They've been breeding their population for higher intelligence, like the Eastern Empire does for mages. They have an elite order called 'Keepers' who know additional secret mental techniques, supposedly, and other, bigger secrets. 

They destroyed all records of their history, it sounds like a few generations back. Which must have been absurdly costly, so presumably for a reason. 

Altarrin's current theory, which is only a theory that he has no specific evidence for save a question looking for an answer, is that they did have gods, once, and found a way to cut off all of their influence. And - this is even more speculative - that the Keepers might be, in secret, trying to construct a god they like better. 

 

 

Dath ilan also has a philosophy that it's better for worlds that aren't above a certain threshold of niceness that they not exist. Carissa's lover ended up wanting to destroy the entirety of Golarion after learning about Hell – destroying Hell seems like a reasonable reaction but destroying everything, when most of the inhabitants of Golarion and plausibly even many of the souls in Hell don't want that, seems like overkill. 

They should probably not try to contact dath ilan even if this somehow turns out to be possible, which he doubts. The engineering knowledge and mental techniques would be very neat but they might decide Velgarth isn't nice enough to exist either. 

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... Well. She doesn't understand that at all but she can try to describe it to her bosses. She'll just try to steeeer him back to Asmodeus: What Is Up With That.

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He doesn't know that much more about Asmodeus per se.

Asmodeus conquered a country, Cheliax. For context there was war between the gods that killed one of them and broke Foresight and left that god's country in a power vacuum - and proceeded to optimize it very, very hard for causing as many people as possible to be sorted Lawful Evil.

Cheliax is...a bit like the Eastern Empire, which is honestly really upsetting. A lot more torture, though, Carissa seemed to believe it was often strategic but, like, torture is terrible for interrogations and even worse for motivating people to do their jobs harder. A lot more - incentives toward deliberate cruelty. They make it very very hard for people, especially wizards, to leave. Carissa arrived here with very, very low expectations of how she would be treated. 

(Cheliax does have some good qualities. They're wealthy, and hold the Golarion record for having a functional education system and teaching all sufficiently smart children, even poor ones, to be wizards. They're also apparently unusually strong on women's rights – admittedly probably for Evil reasons because due to a quirk of the alignment system abortions are very Evil, but Carissa valued that. Carissa has since learned a lot about - alternatives to places being Cheliax - but any remaining fond feelings she has are about that.) 

Cheliax is where Keltham, her dath ilani lover, ended up. They spent months running a careful deception that they weren't actually evil, while trying to - tempt him into actions that would cause him to read Evil, if not deeply change his mind. This, unsurprisingly, eventually failed, and shortly later Carissa decided to flee and oppose Asmodeus, needed to erase her memory to avoid getting caught in this plan, and then ended up here. 

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... She is honestly kind of confused about the claim that the Eastern Empire resembles a state optimized to make people evil? That sounds like something a follower of the gods would say, and is real evidence of Carissa engaging in anti-Imperial propaganda. The alternative to the Empire is horrible bloody chaos, speaking from personal experience.

THEY CAN MODIFY MEMORIES. That is going on the Panic Board real fast. In fact it is also going on her notes here, and here, and here where it isn't obvious, Just In Case. And apparently erasing memories... sends people to different universes as a side effect? Is there any way Altarrin can, uh, provide a bit more context on that?

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(If that was an unhelpful-to-Carissa thing to say, Altarrin has mostly missed that fact! It's obvious to him, or would be if he were considering any of this on an explicit level, that Carissa used a one-time artifact of a spell he has no reason to think she knows or can personally cast, does not have said artifact with her to copy, and also has literally no incentive to erase people's memory in five-minute increments via an extremely flashy and visible-to-mage-sight technique. If he were thinking about this, it might occur to him that these facts are less obvious to the Inquisitors.) 

 

...The sending to different universes side effect is very confusing and he would not actually have expected it to work from losing five minutes of memory - he's missing random blocks of memory over the last multiple days and will be really irritated if there are now eight of him in other universes - but the theory is that it runs off continuity of self-identity, and maybe that was a sufficiently important and life-changing five minutes of realizations for it to count as ending (that particular) Carissa's experience thread? 

...Keltham got to Golarion by dying (permanently but he does not feel like digressing into freezing people right now, and manages not to.) The metaphysical explanation is - that if your thread of conscious experience ends, since the multiverse is very very large (which dath ilan believes for...math?...reasons, despite not having experienced it, but Altarrin is now very ready to believe it on empirical evidence), there will be somewhere where your conscious experience continues, and you experience "waking up" there. - he realizes this is a very bad explanation, it's a confusing topic, he doesn't think it's the important part here. 

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... Wow, she is super confused.

So, uh, more staaaable ground. Can he start talking about the things Carissa did since she arrived the first day? That he knew about? And why she did them?

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She appeared out of nowhere in his office. Panicked, presumably thinking she was in the Imperial Palace in Cheliax and would be summarily executed, and turned herself invisible and gaseous (that's another spell). She was, to be clear, still very visible to mage-sight and clearly had no idea of this fact. He thought she was an air-elemental and tried to give her a construct body, which failed. Eventually he tried to rip the spell apart by force, which worked and also injured her rather badly. She was terrified, but stoic. Didn't speak the language. They got a Thoughtsenser and after some immense confusion he concluded she was from another world. 

 

Still disoriented and terrified, she tried praying to some gods. NOT, to be clear, Asmodeus! She wanted to try for Iomedae, Lawful Good god of fighting Evil and Asmodeus' top enemy, but worried she wouldn't be visible enough. Considered the god of trade and commerce (Lawful Neutral) or Irori, a god who...right, for some reason protected her from Asmodeus in Cheliax but did not actually give her divine powers. He still panicked and had her knocked unconscious and placed under a lot of compulsions... 

 

(Altarrin is exhausted and clearly flagging, he's been feeling kind of like he was going to pass out for a while and ignoring it because this seems important. It's only been four or five candlemarks but he wasn't well going into this.)  

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Yeah, they'll let him sleep. Maybe get him a slightly nicer bed, for symbolism. Restra will write up a report for Beatta in extensive detail to be turned into a report to the Emperor in slightly less detail; she'd like to keep him another day and is very worried his memories may be modified, but other than that suspects he's telling the truth as he knows it.

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The report Mage-Inquisitor Beatta summarizes it includes most of the information, but puts some emphasis on the following particular points:

First, Altarrin does not seem very happy with the Eastern Empire, nor tremendously loyal to it beyond the minimum compelled by his compulsions. He doesn't seem to be loyal to anything else, mind you, barring a strange attachment to Carissa Sevar; his attitude seems much more pointless despair broken only with the desperate hope that Carissa can fix the world when nobody else can.

Second, it is possible to modify memories with Carissa's magic. They recommend flipping completely the shit about this; they've already started changing various of their patterns, and are significantly increasing their coded-note-taking to allow for people misremembering their tasks. They really don't like doing this and strongly recommend assassinating her immediately, see useful information about it.

Third, Altarrin thinks reinventing arcane magic on their own will in fact work, especially if he's put in charge of managing it.

Fourth, Carissa Sevar says she attempted to contact the gods of her homeworld as soon as she arrived, but either did not succeed or lied about her success.

(The context is included in the report, just, uh, not quite as loudly.)

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The Emperor has been trying to do some actual regular Emperor-work in the interim. And mostly succeeding; having a compulsion to serve his Empire is useful, in circumstances like these, and he's leaning on it hard. His feelings – about Caris-his-lover, but also about Altarrin, and Carissa as she was to Altarrin, and all the other upheaval – are in a box, and the box is nice and far away, and it's being politely quiet. 

 

He gets the report. 

- that first, then the transcript of Caris– no, it's actually just weird to think of her as Carissa, for this – Carissa's contact with Altarrin earlier. 

He reads. 

 

...Bastran does not buy for a moment that Altarrin isn't deeply loyal to the Empire, and "pointless despair" doesn't sound like him at all, though he supposes it could be brought on by being under enough compulsions and going through almost five candlemarks of interrogation while exhausted and still not fully recovered. Altarrin is - sad, he'll give that. Sad and tired and - pinning a lot of emotional weight on the hope that Carissa and her magic offer. Disappointed in the Empire for making too many compromises, burning too many metaphorical crops, failing to live up to its ideals: maybe. But he absolutely hasn't given up on it. 

 

- the memory modification is in fact pretty terrifying. But - if it fits the pattern of other magic as described, it's visible to mage-sight. And probably won't work from hundreds of miles away? Hopefully? Who knows whether or not it gets through shields. 

He's definitely going to ask Carissa some pointed questions, when they speak. He is, however, not ready to assassinate her about it. Because - why? 

Because he doesn't think she's evil, and he doesn't think she wants to destroy the Empire, and he's not ready to stop gambling for that upside just yet. 

 

He is completely unsurprised that Altarrin could reinvent arcane magic because Altarrin can do anything that's not even a mind-control thought it's just the thing his brain does about people he respects deeply that he's been fighting all his life, partly on Altarrin's advice. It still seems better to have Carissa, if that's on the table, and not be - reinventing the wheel, pointlessly. 

...He reads the note about gods in more depth. Makes thoughtful noises. That - unfortunately doesn't sound like a short conversation but it goes on the list to ask about. 

 

Honestly, if this is a full and accurate depiction of Carissa's magic, then it's - just not, in fact, that scary? ...Do they have counterevidence, is there anything she's definitely done that Altarrin didn't believe she could do? Unclear. He'll put some people on that. 

 

He sees the note about a third world and ????????? and he skims the further-detail section and...no, he does not have mental space for this right now. 

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And now to skim the transcript of Carissa's conversation with Altarrin. It's missing a lot of words. (The Healer couldn't hear everything that was said and also couldn't write fast enough to capture it, so it's fragmented.) 

 

Trying to trace the spell _  interesting time if they succeed _ prove it's me

Doesn't have afterlives _ freeze every person who dies just their heads _  information is _ cold temperatures _ long term preservation _ when they know how _ bring them all back from the dead

You murder someone _ not really a monster _ want them frozen

Surreptitious Head Removers _ don't murder don't dispose body _ arrive discreetly at scene of crime _ remove head to freeze

Will never tell anyone _ let someone learn your identity _  investigators no assumptions from missing head _ not even murder not accident

When Kathem (??) told us _ thought why stupid enough to believe it _ maybe governed by an evil conspiracy not sure _ could check right

Analysis of murder cases _ notice ways headless cases different _ information muddy but world's ??sewn together tightly to lie can't lie no traces

Have a billion people _ big important differences _kind of person break your word if it suits _ person wouldn't in any future gods could see 

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Okay he doesn't even have time for this right now, Carissa will be contacting him any minute and he can - put it on the list - it's got to be a reference to the other world it makes no sense otherwise but - why did Altarrin find it so immediately convincing - 

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- summary only for the rest, Caris(sa) will be contacting him any minute. 

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Carissa fills Altarrin in on context. Mentions the Surreptitious Head Removers again, and devils, in a way that - seems to lead into describing their negotiation. Gives numbers on whether she thought it would work, what risk of death she was taking - one in ten? Says she's never done it for anyone but has for everyone, and doesn't think she was miscalculating. Asks the Emperor to not make them worse off for her having helped, by not asking him questions about things the gods shouldn't know. Confirms she's checking this and will check again and doesn't think Altarrin can lie to her. 

Altarrin says that he doesn't think Bastran would break his word. 

Carissa confirms that she plans to surrender once she's confident enough of surviving it, even though Altarrin wanted her to run. Wants his advice on whether it's safe. Altarrin isn't sure that they're going to loosen his compulsions enough that he can think about that. Carissa says that's non-negotiable, and Altarrin knows what serves the EmpireAltarrin suggests asking Bastran (about loosening the compulsions, presumably). Carissa says she's talking to him. 

Carissa says that she's scared of what will happen when she surrenders, and doesn't want to leave Altarrin where he is, but it serves the Empire, and will give her information on whether the Emperor is trustworthy. 

Altarrin says some incredibly incoherent things that Carissa apparently nonetheless makes some sense of. Carissa - promises that she's trying, and says something about removing heads againand that maybe she should be sorry but she's not. 

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Bastran has feelings about this. 

 

He does not have time for that. Feelings, box, stay over there. He stares at his sketchy notes and waits. 

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Carissa has had a nice quiet day setting up her god-deadman-switch (it will be a Rope Trick full of pamphlets explaining arcane magic, in the air above a major non-Imperial city. Hopefully it will make worlds where she dies look incredibly noisy to Foresight, and worlds where she surrenders successfully and the interrogators ask her 'so did you set up a bunch of elaborate deadman's switches' and then go and disable it look nice and clean.)

 

She also did some crafting on her Boots of Teleport, just to relax her, and picked the place where she's going to bury all her magic items (the Empire will probably come pick them up, but if they don't, she wants to be sure they don't get stolen).

 

She thinks there's - probably a ten, fifteen percent chance that she is surrendering to her death, tomorrow. Why does this keep happening. She resents it.

 

She wants Altarrin. She wants an imaginary version of Altarrin who is doing for her the thing she did for the Emperor, the illusion of powerlessness as a performance for your 'victim's benefit, fucking her and reading her mind so he knows how to make it actually really nice. She wants immortality and she bets they can do it in one year, maybe two, if she doesn't die. The eighth circle spell Clone solves a lot of Altarrin's problems. (She's left him a note to this effect, tucked in with her fancy magic items, and she's left a will leaving the items to him though she's pretty sure the Empire isn't lawful enough that would matter.)

When it's been five candlemarks she starts a scry and when it's been six she has it.

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The Emperor is in a different small nondescript room, a less fancy one. He's looking at some notes in front of him; if Carissa has Comprehend Languages up and bothers to look, she might notice that they include a packet with a header describing it as the summary notes on Altarrin's interrogation.

His expression is unreadable. 

- he is a mage, and senses the scry-signature. Looks up at it, thoughtfully (he's trying to gauge its structure - could a mage reinvent this spell, from a completely different discipline of magic, having only seen one end of its final casting - Altarrin thought it was important that he had seen Carissa prepare her spells every morning for weeks and weeks...) 

"Carissa?" If she asks why he's switched to calling her that then he'll explain but it sounds tiring and awkward. 

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"Your Majesty. I would like your final proposal for me to safely surrender tomorrow, and I would like you to remove enough of Altarrin's compulsions he can advise me on whether your proposal is adequate."

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He's done the proposal mostly without advice from Mage-Inquisitor Beatta. He is in fact ignoring Mage-Inquisitor Beatta's main piece of advice after questioning Altarrin, because...because he doesn't like it, that is basically what it amounts to.

He - isn't not worried. (He's not scared but mostly because that's tucked away in a corner with all the other inconvenient feelings, like missing the sound of Caris'  voice and memories of kneeling on the floor playing the harp and knowing he probably won't, ever, get to have that again.) 

 

"- To confirm, I have a sound-barrier up and nobody can hear us. I have nearly all of a proposal but some aspects aren't fully nailed down and you'll get the instructions thirty seconds in advance of the designated time tomorrow. I wanted to ask you your Teleport range."

(Which they can't take for granted, of course, but he can separately ask Altarrin - if Carissa is lying she might not have wanted to tell him the same lies, they had different goals together, and they're going to move him. Spells take time to cast - Altarrin said it but it matched the independent analysis of the pastwatching from the Gate-site for Altarrin's healing - and Carissa would need to scry him and then Teleport to him, and a Gate out takes less time. They'll let Carissa talk to him, but at a designated time later, after the Inquisitors are finished questioning him under his full compulsions.) 

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"My Teleport range exceeds five hundred miles. You'll tell me the location well in advance; I can't reliably Teleport from a verbal description, and you risk what, exactly, if I can scry the location in advance and confirm it's what I was promised? That I'll show up prepared for a fight and kill one of your mages?"

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Sigh. "Altarrin admitted in his interrogation that you can modify memories, and we know you can operate invisibly to mage-sight, and we're not, actually, confident on how long any of your spells take even if Altarrin claimed to know, because you could have modified his memory. I - don't think it's that likely you would try even given an opening, to be clear, but - the thing I'm worried about isn't that you'll kill someone." 

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"I can't modify memories! It's not a wizard spell! Specialized equipment I don't possess which existed in my home world can modify up to five minutes of memories per casting, and I haven't made it here! ...though, to be fair, I probably could have." Sigh. "I can Teleport either blind, which runs some chance of failing and depositing me in a completely different location, or to a location I've seen, which in this context means I've scried a person who is there. Ideally I am actively scrying a person who is there. The gods are absolutely going to try to arrange to kill me when we try to do this, so anything that has a known chance of random unlucky failures is right out. If you want you can contact me with the name of the person I'm scrying at a prearranged time right as I complete the scry, but scries actually also have an unlucky failure chance. You need a plan that doesn't result in me dying if a large number of deeply implausible things go wrong."

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Bastran resists the urge to snap at her that it's not like it's obvious to them what things are or aren't "wizard" "spells" and also if it's not that what is it. 

"The region I'm considering has no historical evidence of any god-claim and no human population, which we think should remove almost all routes of interference. And - I've been reading about Foresight," and developing a deep suspicion that he's discovered the Original Altarrin, "and it's not clear to me that failure rates on alien magic from another world is something They can see enough to manipulate anyway. But we can - give you enough time to have two tries. Do you need to have met the person, or does it help increase the reliability if you have?" 

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"It helps substantially with the reliability, but my success rate with scries is pretty good and if there aren't catastrophic consequences of the scry failing I expect it should succeed."

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"Can you target inanimate objects, if they're magical?" 

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"Nope. People. - and other kinds of intelligent being, I guess."

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"Inconveniently we don't have any of those sitting around. We can get you a name. We'll give you a ten-minute window for the Teleport in, in case something goes wrong." There are frantic attempts to invent a shield that blocks Teleports but, having only ever seen the spell cast via pastwatching, they probably cannot do this. "Come without any magic items and don't prepare spells in addition to the ones you need to arrive. Please don't try to use the Nondetection spell that hides them, if Altarrin is telling the truth it would wear off anyway. We are going to provide our kind of shield-talismans against physical force, in case some god somehow can throw an earthquake that far outside their territory. Don't have any kind of shield up that would resist compulsions; we'll have someone stationed to do that the moment we sense the Teleport. There will be mage-guards in rooms shielded against your world's scrying, vetted thoroughly for no god-association and under strong compulsions and mindread in advance and then regularly going forward. There are going to be other precautions we won't tell you about but - none involving people. Other than that, we'll - try to make you as comfortable as we can."

Pause. "And...I think once we've questioned you, we can send Altarrin, if he wants to go." 

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What the fuck is 'we'll try to make you as comfortable as we can' supposed to mean. She was not in fact born yesterday. 

"What measures are you taking to ensure the location isn't known to anyone who wants to kill me."

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"None of us know it yet. I'm going to randomize from a list of suitable locations tomorrow. I am not going to tell anyone. I will Gate the selected staff over just before the time established for you to contact me for instructions; the mages will have compulsions in place not to try to trace the Gate and not to try to determine their location, and even if they could, they're under compulsions not to use any mode of communication-spell, except for one appointed contact person who is authorized to use it with myself only. They're people I've selected carefully to - not have motives to get you killed even if they can slip by a compulsion. I'm going to scry from a distance, from a secure itself-unscryable location; I won't bring anyone else in. - To be clear this is very inconvenient and I'm hoping that after a few days we can - make a trade, give you the ability to prepare defensive spells in exchange for myself having any help with this project. But - I think it's worth it." 

 

Sigh. 

"...We're not going to torture you. I just learned a lot more about your horrible country from Altarrin's interrogation report and I don't - expect you to believe me. But I'm really not sure what the point would be." 

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She ignores that. It doesn't really matter. 

 

"So it's all - you," she says instead, quietly. "I guess it's simpler than figuring out if I trust multiple people. Tell me, Emperor, say I have done nothing but work for Altarrin and you since I came here, and that's what all your questioning says, but I could've changed my own memory, and everyone thinks you only want to leave me alive because of mind control, and you have learned every secret I have and can start your own wizardry program without me, and no hope rests on me, what will you do then, do you suppose?"

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Sigh. "I'm– look. I think at this point - well, after the point that we actually have you, at the facility, and nothing has gone terribly wrong - I have to commit to this, one way or another, even if I don't know for sure I'm right. I'm - going to figure out precautionary measures,vthat could maybe have a chance of - stopping you, if it turns out that you have powers we can't control and want to sabotage the Empire and have acted on that in obvious ways, and also I'm clearly compromised. Those precautionary measures don't involve me; in those worlds, I assume I wouldn't be Emperor anymore and would probably be dead. ...I'm not being stupid about it, there'll be checks of whether it was a godplot first, I realize it still makes the situation less safe from your perspective, if you're telling the truth - and I guess also if you aren't and don't want to get caught - but I don't know what world we're in, yet.

"I'm not authorizing anyone to act on the suspicion that you might be mind-controlling me even though nothing actually bad will happen - and I don't think anyone will go against an Imperial order and have enough support to succeed. If I'm convinced, and I decide I feel differently about how safe you are from other factions, then I'll...figure something out, I guess. It won't be having you executed.

"I am not going to promise you it definitely can't go wrong. But, to the extent you're willing to trust me to be telling the truth and competent to get what I want here, I think I can get you - 99 in 100 odds of safety, one way or another. And I don't think you're going to find better odds somewhere else." 

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"I want you to swear that you've been telling me the truth, here. I don't - think you'd mean it, quite the right way. But Altarrin thinks your promises mean something, and he knows how to mean things."

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What does that mean - he has feelings about Altarrin saying that -

Well. It doesn't feel like it should work, like it should be that easy, to come to an agreement and expect it to be kept just because someone swore by it. Maybe that's what it means. He doesn't expect that of other people and he doesn't think he really lives in a world where that is or can be real, but. It does mean something

This is possibly the worst mistake he's ever made but at some point he has to make it, and - he really does still think it's more likely Kastil was making a mistake than that Altarrin was - 

"I swear that I've been telling the truth, to the best of my knowledge. I swear that I plan to stick to everything I've said, at least about my intentions, I can think of more places where I might change my mind about specifics. I can't promise you that I have perfect information or never - make mistakes. And I'm - not going to commit myself fully, not to - accepting being taken down in a coup over having you killed - until you've done your side of things and showed up. But, conditional on that, I swear to it." 

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"All right. I'll talk to Altarrin in the morning - have him capable of using his mind, please - and if he thinks your precautions are sufficient then I intend to scry whoever you tell me to and Teleport in. 

 

Also, once it's cleared up that I have not mind controlled anybody or modified anyone's memories or plotted harm to anybody or in fact done anything at all I didn't appropriately report through my chain of command in the Empire, I would like an apology."

If he doesn't reply very fast the scry's going to run out before he does.

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"Morning," he agrees, quickly, "I'll have a name for you tomorrow -" 

And then he fails to think of anything else to say, until the scry runs out. 

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She's shaking slightly. She'd have gone into that with Owl's Wisdom up, except she can't cast it and the scry at the same time. 

 

She doesn't want to take off her headband and half her brain with it. She doesn't want to take off her Ring of Sustenance and be back to depending on other people for food and water. She doesn't want to be Altarrin, immobile, helpless, not even able to complete a thought, for as long as it takes processes outside her power to decide if she should die or not. 

She wants to run away and be free and safe and that doesn't serve the Empire and -

- she spends the rest of the hour battering away at the end of that sentence inside her own head, with no luck, and then makes herself tear herself away to finish drawing the pamphlets for the god-deadman's switch. 

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The Emperor isn't shaking but it's taking a lot of willpower. 

 

He needs to think. He needs to go over all of his notes and compare them to his earlier notes and put some bounds on how much, if at all, he was mind-controlled. 

...That doesn't feel interesting or decision-relevant right now. They've been throwing so much paranoia at detecting subtle mind control, or quarantining the effects of it, and they have not, actually, noticed anything that's unambiguously mind-control. It's - starting to feel like they've mostly eliminated all of the middle cases - 

- he should draw it out, all the hypotheses in order of how terrifying they would be, how likely they seem just on general principle, whether things they've learned since nudge that in one direction or another - it's what Altarrin would do, what Altarrin taught him... 

A pang, he misses Altarrin and feels like he's hurting him on purpose, not even because he thinks it helps them be safer, mostly just to avoid adding to his Mage-Inquisitor's suspicion of mind control - that's an awful thing to do to someone - no, feelings, box, not the time– 

Actually, he probably does need to deal with feelings. He can't let them bias him, obviously, but - he's not going to get there by pretending they don't exist. And he has time, right now, he won't have the rest of Altarrin's interrogation report until probably tonight, Carissa is talking to Altarrin tomorrow and won't even make a decision on the surrender plan before then... 

 

 

He doesn't have a music room in this secure facility, which oddly - in that moment at least - feels like the single most terrible thing that's happened in this entire disaster. He will go to his bedroom and sing, and try to - not thing, that comes next - try to notice what hurts

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Well. He's hurting Altarrin. That much is obvious. He's hurting Altarrin and he doesn't even really intend to take the mind-control off until the morning, though maybe he can make a case for it being tonight after the initial interrogation is over, since they now know Carissa needs only two candlemarks of sleep a night and so her "morning" might be absurdly early by anyone else's standards – she would probably still be polite to Altarrin and let him get a full night's sleep but do they know that for sure, no they do not, and also Altarrin probably could use some time to get his head together before he has to offer high stakes advice -

 

Also at the same time he's kind of mad at Altarrin for not being there to give him advice when he desperately needs it, which has got to be the most unfair reason to be mad at someone in the entire history of the world. Also he doesn't trust his Office of Inquiry and this is terrible, how is he supposed to try to be paranoid in twenty directions at once if he can't get advice from the paranoia experts - and it's even more deeply...something...that the reason he doesn't trust them is that the anti-god-plot department has maybe been suborned into a godplot... 

 

He's hurting Carissa, obviously, and in the version of this where Altarrin was right about her - which is after all where he's decided to place his bets - then he's hurting her in ways that are deeply unfair. He's basing many of his choices off what he knows is probably a godplot to discredit her and get her killed - worse, it's the same as with Altarrin, he's basing his decisions off not wanting to make the Office of Inquiry think he's compromised, and again, what an awful reason to be cruel to someone, what must that feel like to her - really the surprising and incredible thing is that she's coming back to negotiations anyway, over and over, with people who don't trust her and think she's out to destroy their Empire and hand it to Asmodeus... 

 

He's probably ruined any chance he ever had with Caris, and he already knew he was terrible at relationships but this is getting ridiculous. Also he's probably never going to have sex that good again. 

 

He can't promise Carissa that he's enough in control of his Empire to avoid a coup or another faction assassinating her and that's such a humiliating admission to have to make, she's probably judging him for it. 

 

It feels like it's his job to be good at this and in control and he's not, he's failing the Empire - annoyingly this feeling seems to be distinct from any particular expectation of a thing going wrong, which is something Altarrin advised him to look out for, if a feeling is ever just - floating essence of inadequacy - rather than being worried that he's making a particular mistake... 

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Well. Specific mistakes: they're trying to be paranoid in twenty directions at once, and yes it makes sense to cover as many contingencies as possible but he's not sure they've actually thought about this in any principled way, one that takes into account the actual likelihood and severity of a particular risk they're trying to mitigate, and how much a given precaution even buys them, compared to how much it costs. Not to mention the fact that some of the paranoia is actively in tension... 

 

What precautions are they taking that would only matter in scenarios he thinks are very unlikely? What precautions are costing them a huge amount in most worlds, relative to the benefit they would buy in some of the worst-case-scenario worlds? 

- well, if their top concern right now is Modify Memory, then yes they should be very concerned that Altarrin's information is untrustworthy, but it's stupid to be worried about contagious mind control? Altarrin can't cast the spell. Altarrin can...mislead them by having thoughts that are very sympathetic and compelling...but that's not even mind control, people do that all the time just by being good at persuasion and at thinking and believing convenient things when someone is watching. Which, you know, at what point does it make sense to treat that as an entirely different order of magnitude of threat than just 'Altarrin is very convincing', which everyone already knew? 

 

Also, the Junior Inquisitor sent to interrogate Altarrin is making a lot of character assessment claims, which - is in fact a big piece of what they wanted, here - but he's not at all sure she has the grounds to be making such a confident assessment, and especially not the context to conclude that it's a change suspicious for mind control. Had she ever even spoken to Altarrin, before? How much of her claim that Altarrin seems not especially loyal to the Empire is based off having a very specific view of what loyalty should look like? 

Also, Altarrin has a secret. Bastran knows some of it, and it - makes more sense of why Altarrin might construe his loyalty to the Empire differently from most people - but he's pretty sure he doesn't know all of it, and it might matter. 

 

 

Conclusion: he needs to talk to Altarrin, in private, with Altarrin able to use his mind. He needs to know, before they make the final judgement call. It's not incredibly urgent, though, and he does want Altarrin - functional, with his head together, which implies probably not having that conversation tonight. Tomorrow morning, then - he didn't actually give Carissa a time, but he's inclined to say "two candlemarks after she speaks to Altarrin, whenever that is" - 

 

Also he needs to actually set up his contingencies, and - like he promised - be careful enough that the gods won't be able to trigger them. He should...leave Mage-Inquisitor Beatta with sealed orders, to be opened only in the scenario where, in the period after Carissa's surrender when Bastran has decided to commit himself fully, but before he's come back with compelling evidence that all of this was a godplot and not a Carissa-plot, they observe an assassination or sabotage or other obvious act against the Empire that could only be done by Golarion magic. Vague suspicion that people are acting uncharacteristically and maybe somehow Carissa arranged that via clever use of Modify Memory is not enough, because obviously when you put people in a novel situation with novel resources and constraints, they're going to act on that and make decisions differently based on it! 

And the sealed orders can be to reinstate Kastil, and - let him use his judgement. 

- is that paranoid enough? In either direction? Well, he has time to mull over it, probably, he just has to brief Beatta before the actual moment of Carissa's surrender. 

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Aaaaaaaaaaand that is more than enough time spent hiding in his bedroom and singing. Back to his desk - different room than where Carissa scried him before, the previous room is occupied by a mage-guard ready to blast anything that Teleports in, but it seems like overkill to change facilities entirely - and back to work. 

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The interrogations continue later that afternoon, once Altarrin has had his nap, Restra has reviewed her notes, and the memory-alteration panic button has been hit! Junior Inquisitor Restra would like to focus on her most important concern, here, which is just how he feels about the Eastern Empire.

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Altarrin napped for three candlemarks and woke up in a bad part of his sleep cycle because he was having nightmares about falling out of the sky and his sleep-rhythm is incredibly confused. Maybe from all the being underground with no windows and in a cell lit around the clock; he's been exhausted enough that the light doesn't especially keep him awake, but now he's groggy and his body sort of feels like it's the middle of the night. One assumes this is deliberate on the part of his interrogators, though on the surface they're still playing nice. 

Also, this topic is much harder to talk about under his current set of compulsions. 

(Warring with the compulsions, deeper under the surface, are the mental habits of centuries, engrained at the level of reflex, not to ever even hint at certain facts about himself and his background and where he developed the opinions he has.) 

 

"I think the Empire is - very important, for - civilization on this world. We are - the only place in the known world that retains much of the knowledge of before the Cataclysm. It would be an indescribable tragedy if that were lost. The gods want to destroy it. It is - worth taking costly measures - to prevent that. But. The measures we take - the compulsions, the labor camps, the blood-magic, the - wholesale execution of people whose only crime is not knowing better than to worship a god, or - being conquered and not yet trusting their conquerers and wanting to fight back - those measures are costly and they hurt people. Who are our people, who this Empire is - here to protect. I think our founders, the First Emperor, those who - had the vision that built this Empire - would have hoped those measures could. Be more temporary. Than they ended up being. ...I am not sure there is. A better way. And it is better for the Empire to exist than not. But. I think we have not yet - achieved everything and succeeded in everything we can - and if there were a way to do that, to - fight back against the gods more decisively, that. Would be good." 

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She nods. "Tell me about the vision of the First Emperor." There are a thousand ways to read it, a thousand things to project onto it from your own mind. Just how deviationist is he going to be?

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On the one hand, he's groggy and the headache is back and it's hard to finish or steer his thoughts, and it still feels like he's missing a cornerstone of his mind, there's a wall where there should be a foundation. 

On the other hand, he's probably explained this a thousand times even just in this body - he's mentored a lot of young up-and-coming mages and officers and scholars - and the first thing he does is read many of the primary sources on the early Empire along with his other written personal records. He has a speech for this. It's not going to come out nearly as eloquent as usual, the compulsions are tripping up his line of thought, but the various pieces of it are fairly accessible in his mind; he can quote the written works of the early Empire with remarkable fluency. 

 

(He can even, in bits and pieces, recapture feelings that aren't exhausted resignation and despair. There is something beautiful and worthwhile about the experiment being tried, even if he's no longer sure it can possibly succeed without– ...without taking other measures.) 

 

 

Caveat: they don't and can't perfectly know the mind of the First Emperor, because he lived in a period of tumult and chaos for which their records are poor – and his focus would have been different, what makes sense to emphasize is different when the main threat is constant famines, which the Empire solved centuries ago and moved on to greater heights. And the First Emperor was - he's not going to say naive, that isn't fair, but - trying strategies first that involved fewer compromises, it wasn't until later that blood-magic was approved, though Altarrin doesn't believe the policies of the Second Emperor were out of line with the founding vision, it's just - the First Emperor had so little time, they hadn't learned the right paranoia and built the right infrastructure for it yet - that's not an indictment of anyone involved it's just an admission that the problem they were facing was very, very hard... 

But what the First Emperor and his advisors - because it's not just the Emperor who mattered, the strength of the Empire is and always has been that it's so much more than just its current ruler - what they wanted was a world that didn't have stupid problems. You can unpack it and break it down a lot more than that, you can get more technical, you can talk about rule of law and justice and systems that reward merit rather than accidents of birth, you can talk about processes that over centuries result in continuous progress in engineering and magical knowledge - you can talk about the importance of bringing civilization to the rest of the world, one province at a time - you can talk about aligning the incentives of noble landholders with the flourishing of the Empire - you can talk about the role of a strong government in supporting trade and invention - 

- but that's it, at the core. The First Emperor was born into a world practically made of stupid problems - and that hasn't changed, even if at the time the founders couldn't have known the extent to which the true enemy wasn't the storms and bandits but the gods - but the First Emperor carried with him the knowledge that, once, there had been a Civilization that was better. And he saw the possibility of a path from here to there, and dedicated his life to building it around him, and to shaping the infrastructure and government systems that would carry it on after him, and of course there were fits and starts but others took up the torch. 

Altarrin thinks the First Emperor, if he were alive, would be proud - and awed, in many ways, by what his successors achieved. He thinks the First Emperor would be impressed by the ruthlessness they've learned, and how much they have successfully kept the gods at bay, a project that might have seemed impossible in those early days. He thinks the First Emperor would never once criticize them for trying to make the best decisions in expectation to maintain the future stability and prosperity of the Empire whose seed he shaped, even if with the power of hindsight there have often been mistakes, and processes changed to account for them in future – the First Emperor would probably admit that if he had known the future, he would have used compulsions and blood-magic from the start, and of course banned the worship of the gods whose cultists killed him. 

He thinks the First Emperor would be glad that his creation is still around, and stronger than it's ever been. Looking at the man's few writings, though, and at the more extensive writings of his imperial advisors, Altarrin - doesn't think the First Emperor would say that they were done

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... Okay fine. This is acceptably orthodox. (Possibly because Altarrin helped define orthodoxy after the last major civil war.)

And how does Carissa Sevar fit into this? (She's prepared to ask that several different ways.)

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Well. In some sense the most important part is that Carissa Sevar is a wizard from another world. Carissa Sevar knows a kind of magic that can be taught to anyone smart enough, that includes many capabilities impossible with Velgarth magic. And it's probably harder for the gods to oppose directly, at least at the start, because if his the historical top scholars' theories about Foresight are right, the causal past of Carissa's magic is invisible to Them, and Carissa - and thus, to a significant extent, anyone who learns wizardry from her - is going to be blurred. 

 

- probably they should have some scholars analyze that in light of recent events, but he thinks it's plausible. The gods would be trying very hard to stamp out that new, hard-to-make-out source of noise, and the plot was...clumsy, in that it's incredibly obvious that something involving godnudging just happened, even if there is perhaps still ongoing disagreement about who the gods are intervening for or against. For his part he's really quite sure they were intervening against the alien wizard who carries the knowledge that could transform civilization on Velgarth. Anyway, it was a blatant, probably rather costly intervention, and neither target is even dead. Which doesn't mean they're home safe now, but gods don't have infinite power to keep intervening, or else the Empire couldn't possibly exist. 

(Musings about the Empire being a compromise between what its founders wanted and what the gods found convenient can stay in his head, it's not like that's the answer to any question about Carissa.) 

 

Also, Carissa is on the side of civilization and prosperity and literacy and magical innovation, and on board with opposing the local gods, who she thinks are sort of incompetent in additional to terrible, given how they don't even grant their followers afterlives. He realizes this is not something they can confidently believe just from hearsay but it was one of the key questions for him, and he's convinced. 

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... Riiiight.

Next step: Ask a couple dozen variants of all these questions and of all the questions from earlier, starting with: So what did he think about the Eastern Empire a year or two ago?

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He doesn't think his overall endorsed opinions about it were especially different? His thoughts and feelings in the day to day were definitely more...near-scoped, close-up, he doesn't go around thinking about the ways they're still falling short of the First Emperor's founding vision every day because that would be depressing and it's not actually the right guide to most local routine decisions. 

The Empire's flaws are going to be more salient to him right now, because 'when one has just been handed a potentially transformative resource' is a pretty good time to look for problems in need of fixing, even if most times are not the right time for that. There are almost certainly going to be - compromises they're making and costs they're paying, that are and always were the right call under the conditions and constraints they were facing - and of course it's stupid to ignore reality in favor of an unrealistic vision - but, maybe, there are costs they can now stop paying. For example, if Carissa's magic offers a way to obviate needing large amounts of mage-power for infrastructure-building, they can shut down the blood-magic program. If Carissa's knowledge can be converted into wealth, they could probably manage with fewer campaigns of rooting out and executing dissenters in newly-conquered provinces if they could, instead, make the benefits of being part of the Empire very obvious - they might even be able to swing many of their annexations diplomatically, even, dispense with the armies and just offer secret magical knowledge. To be clear all of these plans are hypothetical, it's been only six weeks and that's too early a stage to be making those decisions, but. Hypothetically. 

 

 

 

 

(The thought that he doesn't expect any of this to work is under the surface, unspoken even in his own mind - it's distant and abstract and includes a lot of major strategy questions he hasn't yet reasoned through, which the compulsions hate, and even the modified loyalty compulsion, that feels like a net around him rather than any kind of emotional cornerstone, doesn't like the implications. And he can angle it so that the compulsions are actually quite in favor of pointing out ways the Empire could profit immensely from having wizards.) 

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(This is why the Office of Inquiry tears out your compulsions and replaces them with differently-phrased ones, so you can't do that. Altarrin is just that good.)

"This makes sense," she says. "Is there something bothering you that you haven't mentioned? You've seemed very concerned and depressed since Carissa's arrival."

(Her leading guess is that that's when Carissa started modifying his memories of the Eastern Empire to throw him into despair, or just did it directly with magic.)

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...Carissa negotiated for them not to force him to answer questions that would reveal information where it would harm him for the gods to know. This...touches on that. He can say that but - compulsions bounce away from strategy - 

He has a lot of reasons to be upset, though! And can manage to slide toward the one that is going to seem especially salient and relevant to the Inquisitors right now, and is a lot more concrete and less high-context than the...other one. 

 

"- Well, it is not very comfortable to meditate on the flaws of the Empire I serve, that is part of it. I also - there are other worlds. Carissa's world contains an entire country ruled by Asmodeus and I - wish we could conquer it and take it from him, from many reasons but significantly because he does not deserve them, and nobody should be - forced at pain of death or torture to worship a god. But we have no way of getting there and probably lack the resources to fight the gods of two worlds at once anyway. ...Also Carissa believes that her lover from dath ilan is going to try to destroy Golarion because he is upset about the torture afterlife and Carissa is terrified that he will succeed. They are not our people but I would - I would have us save them too. If we could. Which we cannot. Even by combining the magics of our two worlds, I see no way to reach Golarion and I think we would lose if we attempted it, but...." 

 

It's not a strategic decision to start crying. Definitely not that. (He might usually make a strategic decision not to start crying but he's banned from that right now.) He's just very tired and emotionally wrung out, and irritable and reactive because he still hasn't really eaten anything today, and also it's an incredibly upsetting topic. 

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Okay, yes, get him food and water, get him more rest, and they can get back to this later. They will need to cover everything, even if right now she's being polite and soothing and pointing him in the direction of trying to fix his blood sugar. She does not feel comfortable releasing him out to go make strategic decisions when he's like this.

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The Emperor spends the afternoon alternating between routine work, more fully specifying the precautions for Carissa's surrender that he didn't inform her about explicitly, writing his sealed orders for Kastil in case of disaster, and making extensive notes while trying to figure out what pieces of his thinking might or might not be mind-control. 

 

He requests that whenever Altarrin's interrogation is concluded for the evening, and Beatta has the summarized notes ready, he would like to meet with both Beatta and the Junior Inquisitor to go over the notes, and then speak to Beatta privately about a different matter. 

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AHHHHHH THE EMPEROR AHHHH AHHHH AHHHHHH AHHHH

AND SHE HAS BAD NEWS

AHHHHHHHHHHH

(this does not show up on her face Restra is not stupid she will get all her notes in order and be ready to answer questions about anything)

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The latest update is not, in fact, particularly large; it mostly just provides them with more information they already possessed. Altarrin is in terrible shape, possibly mentally altered by Carissa; they did not get a convincing explanation for why he reacted with despair to her arrival, and that his ability to recite textbook imperial doctrine does not change the fact that he is not ready to be trusted with any significant position until the Office of Inquiry has finished its investigation. (She'll write it up somewhat more politely than that in her notes.)

Nonetheless, Mage-Inquisitor Beatta is prepared to obey whatever orders the Emperor gives.

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Oh, the Emperor is in full agreement on Altarrin being in terrible shape and not being ready to return to his duties anytime soon, that is not in question.

(In his opinion, it's not the only or even the main question that the investigation is trying to answer, which boils down to "is Carissa a threat to the Empire on a level where the correct response is assassination rather than negotiation", but he's not here to terrify the Junior Inquisitor by criticizing her, and the high-level analysis isn't really her job.) 

 

Can the Emperor get more detail on which specific aspects of 'Altarrin is in terrible shape' look like mental alterations? As opposed to the fact that he nearly died and spent almost two days trapped alone in some remote supply cache with no medical attention and then – probably while not thinking clearly but the backlash and untreated blood-poisoning would explain that too – made a risky decision to avert what he saw as a disaster for the Empire, nearly died again, regained consciousness while falling out of the sky and under compulsions not to use magic to save himself, and has spent the last day and a half under compulsions that are actually significantly more restrictive than the standard even for powerful mages suspected of treason on much, much stronger grounds? 

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"Your Majesty," says Beatta very carefully, "the grounds on which the Office of Inquiry suspects him to have been subverted by Carissa Sevar are, plainly, that she is immensely personally important to him. That he threw immense resources at her project can be understandable by believing it important, that he was willing to face near-certain death for her might be explained by a calculation for the good of the empire even though, but putting aside their peacetime relationship, he burst into tears when she scried him and the first thing he scried upon waking was her, and when he considered her home under danger, he wept again. If he had displayed this kind of interest in anyone else before, we would not suspect mental alteration, but so far as the Office of Inquiry knows," and it knows a great deal, "none of his previous relationships have, in fact, been close. His concern has always been that of a mentor for a valuable asset of the Empire's, not that of a lover. He admits that she can use her magic to modify memories and charm others, and his obsessive interest in her is most simply explained by him having fallen in love with her, which is, itself, most simply explained as a known use of magic Carissa Sevar possesses."

(She is genuinely worried about her life, here; even with a mild and moderate Emperor like Bastran, suggesting that the king's lover has seduced another man is not something you do if you want a long career. The lover may remember, even if the emperor doesn't care.)

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"Your Majesty," says Restra carefully, "I did not feel that his answer, when I asked why he had been so unhappy since Carissa arrived, was wholly honest. This is my intuition as an interrogator; I can offer nothing more than that it did not feel that he was giving a complete answer. It does not seem characteristic of him to be primarily concerned with the people of another world when the Empire is in danger, especially given his earlier suspicion that it is not magically possible to reach this world."

AHHH this is the EMPEROR AHHHHHH.

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He wishes Altarrin were in love with Carissa and vice versa, they would actually be good for each other and Carissa deserves it Feelings. Box. Now. 

 

The Emperor absorbs this calmly. Takes his time answering. 

"I understand," he says to the Junior Inquisitor, first. "I'd be suspicious in your place - I am suspicious, actually, I share your sense that it's - something to do with the Empire, not just a world we can't even reach. I am not sure, at this time, that you should press him further on it; my concern is that it's somehow related to the secrets that the gods mustn't know, and that's why he gave an incomplete answer, though clearly including something that genuinely is distressing to him. But - I appreciate your insight." 

 

And he turns to Beatta. He's choosing his words very carefully. 

"I'm - not going to start by saying you're wrong, because I agree with most of your observations, and I do think there's - something there. They didn't sleep together, though. I'm not saying she wouldn't have, if he were willing, but - he didn't want to touch her, and I get the sense she was rather bitter about it - don't take my word for that, obviously, question Altarrin about it, but I doubt he felt the slightest romantic desire for her." 

Sigh. "...I am curious to find out more of what his feelings for her are. You're right, it really does look like he's - more committed, more attached, than is usual for him, and you're right to point that out as suspicious. I don't know what's different this time either. But - there are a lot of options other than 'mind control', and I want to make sure that we're not jumping to the 'mind control' conclusion without digging further. I think he was a very lonely man, and I don't think we know enough yet to discount the possibility that she just - offered him something in a friendship that no one else could. ...My top guess would actually be that it's about dath ilan. It - would be particularly compelling to Altarrin, and Carissa is the only one who could teach him of it." 

 

And they're doing the thing again where they posit that Carissa has incredibly sophisticated mind-control and also made some idiotic mistakes that should have been extremely easy to fix if she could erase memories - for example, why leave Altarrin around knowing she could erase memories!!! - but he's not going to get into that again, right now. He's also not going to point out that, given how much they're basing on Altarrin's mental state, are they taking into account that people sometimes...get depressed...for no clear reason...? This is a thing that happens! However, he does not especially feel like actually bringing up the argument, which amounts to "maybe Altarrin gets the same thing do where everything in the world is terrible if I haven't had enough sleep." 

 

He turns back to Restra. "Thank you, Junior Inquisitor. You may go." 

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And to Mage-Inquisitor Beatta, once she's gone: 

 

"I've made some decisions that I need to brief you on. You're going to hate them– well, you're going to hate at least two of them. I want Altarrin's compulsions relaxed, at least temporarily. We've made progress on negotiating a surrender, but Carissa wants his counsel before she agrees to the full conditions and precautions I want in place, and I think it's worth it."

He does not squirm even though it definitely feels like his Mage-Inquisitor, who he can't even trust anyway not to be unknowingly caught up in a god-plot, is judging him.

"I also intend to question him myself, in private, either before or after Carissa contacts him depending on timing. Carissa gave me a very brief summary of the secret they want kept from the gods, but I suspect the full secret might be important here. - Also, if our main concern is that Carissa can modify memories with a Golarion spell - which she admitted to though unsurprisingly claims she hasn't done so - then I think we should be less worried about interactions with Altarrin, who cannot, in fact, cast Golarion wizard spells. I am fine with replacing some of his compulsions for that but I want him able to speak coherently." 

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Restra will bow herself out and then exhale.

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Mage-Inquisitor Beatta nods. "Understood, Your Majesty."

(She is already preparing her excuses for the new regime, focusing on "I only had a limited ability to reverse Kastil's previous decisions." She is rapidly regretting the fact that she hit the emergency button when they learned about Modify Memory, and wishing she put someone other than Restra in charge of the interrogation. Maybe she can swap her out without much political difficulty.)

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The Emperor is intending - probably - to put in a formal commendation that he's pleased with Junior Inquisitor Restra's work. It's what Altarrin would do, even though this process has been exhausting and frustrating. 

"Thank you. ...The second matter is that, depending on how conversations tomorrow go, I'm planning to take full charge of the operation around Carissa's surrender. If Kastil was nudged into place by Vkandis to take down Carissa after the attempt on Altarrin – which I think is if anything more compelling a theory as the one where Carissa is the threat, we have a long history of godplots including some resembling that – then I think this is the best way to avoid any escalation while Carissa is incapacitated."

Sigh.

"I think I'm right. If Carissa shows up on schedule and meekly submits to the conditions, tomorrow, I'm - willing to bet on that. But I don't want the Empire to go down with me, if it turns out I'm wrong." 

And he slides a magically-sealed letter across the table to her. 

"I want you to assign some people to watching for sabotage or assassinations or any other clear enemy action that would require Golarion magic, or is outside the scope of anything we have on record from god-interventions before Carissa's arrival. I'm not going to tell you more in advance, yet, but - if your team reports that this is happening, open the orders and follow them. That's an Imperial order." 

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She nods. "Understood, Your Majesty."

And, "As you command, Your Majesty." Is he going to give her a specific order to not try to learn what's in the order in advance, or just leave that up to the usual "do what the Emperor obviously means you to do" compulsions, which is a lower degree of order than following his explicit words?

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Nope! (He's not actually considering this in enormous depth, right now, he's mostly - following existing habit, partly a policy he absorbed from, mostly, Altarrin - better to give people discretion, his subordinates are selected to be smart and education and experienced for a reason...) 

He tells her that she's dismissed. 

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And she bows her way out of the room.

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(It is, perhaps, worth modeling the events taking place in the Office of Inquiry, over the past few days. Momentum has begun building for a change of thought, among the Office of Inquiry, for a reversal of opinion that might, perhaps, be shocking to those who did not understand it - a complete reversal, on the topic of Altarrin and on the topic of Carissa Sevar. A newcomer to politics might suggest that it is a product of the fact, now becoming reasonably apparent to the Office, that they are almost certainly innocent.

Someone who has more experience with the Empire would, perhaps, understand better.

The Emperor has a new lover, the new lover is accused of treason by the Office of Inquiry, the new lover flees arrest - and the Emperor, desperately loyal, protects her, arresting the accusing officer. This is not, in fact, a new story; those of the Office of Inquiry as old as Altarrin have seen it before, and those who know their history know that it is happened. The new lover will return to power, and the new lover will return bearing a grudge, and merrily she will ply the axe until such time as the Emperor tires of her, and the old lover is accused of treason by the new lover. Oh, there was a brief spasm of patriotic paranoia at the thought of memory-modification, but the Office of Inquiry does not, in the final resort, act to protect the Emperor when he does not want to be protected. Emperors have come and gone, is the quiet wisdom amongst the inquisitors; the Empire is eternal.

Does this then suggest that they mean to serve the Empire? Oh no. Many serve Empire over Emperor, as they are bound to do, but the truth is that the Office of Inquiry, like any good Office, exists to perpetuate itself, for any Office that does not will, in the end, be devoured by those that do; if you trade off self-protection against doing your duty, then - as Kastil has just demonstrated - you will not protect yourself, and the Office of Inquiry has just received another lesson in exactly why this law holds. If Carissa Sevar is a cultist of Asmodeus - well, they will not say 'All hail Asmodeus' - but one could hardly say it, could one? Let her take her vengeance on Kastil and the remnants of his faction, let one director's head fall and other director's head rise - so long as the Office of Inquiry continue. The words remain unspoken, but there they are: The Emperor is dead. Long live the Empire.)

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Altarrin is resting in bed, drowsy but not quite asleep, when one of the Emperor's mages comes in. 

He's calmed down, back to a state of - blank resignation, mostly, not making plans, not thinking ahead to tomorrow, just - enduring. It's going to get incredibly boring if they give him actual free time, but right now it seems like he's going to be sleeping fourteen candlemarks a day and being interrogated the rest of the time, so boredom has yet to come up. 

He looks at them tiredly, without curiosity. 

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"The Emperor wants your compulsions modified. Don't resist." 

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What is he supposed to do, exactly, glare at the man. He's also not sure what else they could possibly put on him, at this point. 

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Apparently the thing he's actually going to do is remove a lot of the compulsions against higher-level generic planning and strategic reasoning! Not the more specific blocks - he can't plan about escaping, and there are a couple aimed at preventing planning in advance to steer his interrogator down a different topic tree to avoid certain information coming up, though this one is (for Altarrin) rather easy to work around. 

They're not doing anything about the one where he can't voluntarily decide to move. 

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That's...

 

...he's going to figure out how he feels about it later, when he's not having his head poked. But it's - good, probably, it means Carissa must have convinced the Emperor to let them speak. 

He's so tired. Having the ability to think about the future almost feels like a weight on him; they're so constrained, he has so few resources, he's pretty sure there is a path forward from here but it's hard to think about for reasons that have nothing to do with mental modification. He should...try anyway...but he's spent the last two days leaning into helplessness and resignation and that is an incredibly annoying set of grooves to have worn into his mind. 

- he should think about how to undo that but actually right now he's falling asleep. 

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(Altarrin is in fact sleeping a lot right now; he half-wakes a few times during the night, tries to bang his head on advice that would help Carissa, runs aground on lack of context of what the surrender plan is, slides back into sleep.

He's going to stay asleep for candlemarks past dawn unless Carissa interrupts sooner.) 

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Carissa doesn't need much sleep. She paces, and contemplates contingencies, and considers scrying the lead inquisitor who went after her but that's really mean, he'd probably worry she'd compromised him, and it probably won't tell her the things she wants to know anyway. 

She isn't going to finish the Boots, so she doesn't bother, just bundles them away with everything else.


She's so scared. 

They're not going to torture her, the Emperor said. She suspects the Empire...draws a very sharp distinction, or something, between pain and other kinds of suffering, treats putting a wire in someone's heads for all their thoughts to rip against as an entirely different sort of thing from pressing a hot poker to their skin. And treats it as very different to break a person's will by denying them sleep than by breaking a few bones. She doesn't dread them differently, she suspects.

- she doesn't object to it either, to be clear. Hurting people so as to make them less able to oppose you is a reasonable thing to do for many reasons in many contexts including interrogations.

But whether there's blood has awfully little to do with whether there's suffering, and this is going to be awful. The Emperor mostly can't make it less so; he can't make her not fear for her life, and if she's doing any steering for any goals she has then they're not doing their jobs. There isn't a survivable amount of pain that'd make it much worse, or a strategically reasonable amount of mercy that'd make it much better. 

And suffering is fine if you'll come out of it but -

- she really might die. She really truly might.

- and, this matters a lot less than dying but an entirely reasonable conclusion, were you the Emperor, would be that Carissa is indeed very useful and very dangerous and honestly was flirting with quite a lot of treason and has now caused quite a lot of trouble about it, and will spend the rest of her life neatly compulsioned to make magic items for the Empire and not think thoughts.

And then she'll die, if Altarrin doesn't fix it.

 

Altarrin would probably fix it. 

It's not her read of the Emperor's personality, at all, but she has no idea who will have his ear with Altarrin gone. Maybe they'll clear him soon once they have her, and he'll be back; most of her hope rests on that, at this point. 

She waits to scry Altarrin until any reasonable person would be awake.

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Then he'll be awake! In bed, increasingly frustrated about the inability to move, still experiencing quite a lot of distress, his heart rate keeps spiking for no discernable reason. He's having unreasonably more difficulty than usual keeping his thoughts from spinning off into what-if scenarios based much more on what sounds terrifying than on what sounds the most plausible, and leaping from there to fire, to lying helpless on the floor of a records cache, freezing cold and unable to even move another inch - to hanging and sinking slowly in midair, unable to move, unable to use magic, helpless to do anything if Carissa's spell runs out too soon - 

(This, he's experienced before though not, that he can remember, this intensely, and it's incredibly inconvenient. He could make a lot of progress on it in the next couple of days if he had paper, and ideally privacy, and of course the ability to move his hands voluntarily. He doesn't have that and the current situation is doing the opposite of help and he mostly, at this point, expects to be trying to work around this for the next few months.) 

 

He still can't see the scrying-focus. 

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Right. “Altarrin. - I want to confirm you can actually think. Can you explain why I thought of the head removers when you were dying -”

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He was expecting this and he still twitches, his pulse racing. 

- it's all right, not a threat, calm down he's being asked a question - 

 

“You were negotiating with the Emperor about what to do, right? And you - on both sides, each of you had so many reasons to benefit from falsely giving your word. But if both of you believed the other would break the agreement, if the Emperor thought you would kidnap me rather than leaving me for them to retrieve, and you thought the Emperor would compel me to Final Strike and kill you, then neither of you would have agreed to it – even though then I would have died, and both of you preferred I survive." 

He takes a moment to phrase the next bit, not because his thoughts are running into walls but it's probably-unrelatedly kind of hard to concentrate.  

“And - you would expect dath ilan to have the same incentives problem, with the head removers, that the murderers would not call and risk being caught even though they preferred the victim’s head be frozen, but - somehow they do it. Because of…I suppose ‘Law’ in the Golarion sense captures it. And you hoped that the Emperor understood that, and understood why it mattered that his promises meant something, and would keep it. And - were right.”

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“Or didn’t give him the chance, I have no way to know. I’m gambling now that I was right, then. Here are the precautions that he proposed.” She wrote them down. She reads them out. “What else would you add?”

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Altarrin is more sure that she was right, but of course he’s known the Emperor for really quite a lot longer. Shaped him, in many ways. …Bastran may be questioning some of that advice now, of course, or be pushed to ignore it by the Inquisitors, but Altarrin doesn’t think that he would drop the part about what it takes to negotiate agreements between parties with limited trust. It’s - hard to take that pattern out of your thinking, once it’s there.

“That is better than I expected.” He can think of precautions the Emperor might want to add, to protect against the cases where Carissa is…evil, or something…but since that isn’t the case, he doesn’t particularly feel a need to propose them.

“The plans for the facility seem fine, though you could check how many people he is sending - you want the minimum surface area - he can send them earlier and use the preparation time to lay set-spells, and get the same security with fewer staff. And the other components that could fail are on his end, and - whoever he is putting in charge of setting off the contingencies that I assume he has if you betray him. The main thing I can think of here is that the person running those should be as silo’d as possible - so the Emperor should also be in a secure base in a region we know to have low historical rates of god-interference, and - I lack context to advise him on how to set up contingencies but the same principle applies.”

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“But you could still kill me, right, if you decided that I was dangerous? How would you go about it?”

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“In the Emperor’s place, at the guarded facility? Communication-spell artifact, magically sealed instructions with his location on a map, and keep the only map of your location with him. Summon a mage to Gate in and Final Strike - less than five seconds of warning - would probably work." 

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" - I was thinking in your own place, as a powerful advisor of the Emperor who concludes that he is being mind-controlled and that you’d better handle it yourself for the good of the Empire. That being a position some people hopefully less competent than you probably find themselves in."

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“From what starting position - now, or after you surrender?"

He's going to clarify because, apparently, he's too distracted by the fact that his body has decided to throw a panic-reaction at him, presumably at the concept of someone Gating in to Final Strike– oh, Gates feel terrifying right now, that makes a lot of sense and is also intensely frustrating. 

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“From the starting position that I have surrendered to the Emperor and you don’t know what he did after that.”

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If he could concentrate it would have been obvious from the start what he wanted and he wouldn't have wasted precious scry time clarifying - he doesn’t think he’s being slow because of anti-planning mind control, it's just...everything else...

 

“...Honestly, I would need at least several candlemarks to think of a strategy there, since I assume anyone doing it will be taking at least that much time. The obvious is to try to locate the Emperor, which I assume people will try, but he is not going to let that work. Leaving that aside, I think there is no - people-routed - way to locate you directly, so it would need to be by other means. ...I might, if I thought I knew the Emperor well, try to predict what his criteria would be for picking a secure facility in a region outside god-influence, where a Final Strike backup plan would not destroy important infrastructure. There would be dozens if not hundreds of options, but someone sufficiently well-informed and motivated might try going down the list and ruling out options one at a time. I think very few people can predict the Emperor that well - could. Mage-Inquisitor Kastil could but will not if the Empire orders him not to, he is very - Lawful, in the Golarion sense. ...He was running the initial investigation, I saw him in the north on scrying. I am not sure he is still running it now." 

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"- I'm mostly counting on you being - competent to, positioned to - figure out what political enemies I've made and what plans they've made - which means also relying on the Emperor to release you soon -"

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"I could make guesses now but they would be poorly informed on anything that involves - recent changes in context. It depends significantly on how well the Emperor is handling this and - I am not sure. I have not seen him in a crisis where he lacked my advice and was unsure I could be trusted." 

 

 

"I....am not expecting him to release me especially soon. For what it is worth. Maybe in weeks and not months." 

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"What odds would you give, do you suppose, that I will die. ...Emperor said one in a hundred, but - you know, I hated how condescending Keltham was - I don't - believe people, when they say one in a hundred, that they're - using a process that works that well -"

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"...I understand. Communicating uncertainty is hard and it is easier to trust if you see the - pieces of the reasoning -"

Frustration. "I cannot write currently, I am going to - give you some numbers - you can decide how to put them together. I think the Emperor will keep the facility on top security for a few days, he cannot reasonably disappear and carry all of it himself for longer without incurring larger political costs. During that period - which is the most critical in terms of where the tides will turn in the longer run - one in a hundred seems very believable, maybe even lower. Afterward, when more people know... Still less than one in twenty, I think, for the remaining period when you are imprisoned. Probably lower but I am missing too much context to bet confidently." 

Pause. Thinking.

"The odds are - higher than that - that some parties will be laying the groundwork for a potential assassination attempt once you are free and back in the capital - assuming that is how this ends. But, of course, at that point you will be able to defend yourself, and gather your own information. The sensitive period is while he is delegating your imprisonment to others, and instead focused on leaning on the Office of Inquiry to conclude their investigation a particular way. ...You could negotiate for him to allow you some limited means of defense and that might work. And once they conclude it, you will still have enemies, but they will see less upside to making an attempt on you, and greater risk of punishment, and find fewer allies. I - would still not bet on one in a hundred, just because there are years to cover and people will be scrutinizing you, but - less than one in fifty. ...One in forty. Lower if you do not teach your magic to others." 

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"If I don't leave behind any notes explaining my magic, then how are you going to use my magic to fight the gods and get me back from death itself?"

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"- Just knowing that it is possible, that it has topological properties and interacts with spellsilver, and the effects of a few spells, would be enough to reinvent it eventually. It would take decades for me, and...longer..." centuries, lifetimes, but they're not in private right now, "to catch up to where you are now - it would be far more difficult - but. I think it could happen. ...I am not sure anyone else could do it without - luck - and the gods would oppose it." 

 

He hopes that exchange isn't going to lead to too many awkward questions. If it comes up in an interrogation it's going to be - complicated - to steer around. 

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"All right. I need to - get the rest of my instructions, then."

She wants to - indicate something, even obliquely, about the notes she found in the cave, but it's probably better if he doesn't think about it and no one is prompted to ask any specific questions. She's going to burn the instructions to get to his other vaults. 

"I willed my stuff to you. I don't know if anyone will consider my wishes to have any legal significance, but if I die I want you to have it. I don't really like to leave my debts quite as unpaid as they are at present."

And that's quite enough. She cuts the scry.

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They're presumably going to show up any minute and put his compulsions back and throw him right back into the interrogation, so it's not at all clear it makes sense to spend whatever interval he has on wrestling his mind back into better order without even the benefit of paper, but he doesn't really want to waste that time.

...All right. Dealing with the part where Gates are terrifying can wait until it's both more relevant, for example because he has to interact with Gates, and easier to practice not-flinching, for example when he can cast varying degrees of practice Gate. It's not very impairing as long as he's a prisoner, and the helplessness-despair loop is, so he's start with that. 

- the days trapped in the records cache weren't, really, the worst part - he genuinely wasn't afraid for himself, the worst case was dying and waking up somewhere else, he was afraid for Carissa and that's...just reasonable, actually. But having been through that experience definitely meant that the second half of this, waking up compulsioned in midair and everything after that, hit him harder – and it has the issue where most of it isn't very well recorded in his episodic memory. 

So. Start at the first part he can remember, then - dig further, looking back, trying to drag it into clarity... 

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They are not going to leave him to it for very long! 

 

However, instead of bringing him back to the interrogation room, someone is going to come and instruct him through getting dressed and then - raise a Gate to somewhere else? 

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Aaaaaaaah no it's all right it's fine it's good practice for interacting with Gates without hesitating (if only because the compulsions won't let him) and talking himself down from panicking about it. It's both easier and harder when he cannot sense it with mage-sight at all. 

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The other side appears to be a small meeting room, the kind for small private conversations. Nondescript, wood-paneled walls with wire and crystal inlays hinting at wards he can't sense; a sideboard with drinks; several comfortable chairs and a low table. 

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Altarrin has no idea how to interpret what's happening here! He - will sit, obediently, it's not like he has a choice, and work on taking deep breaths and convincing his pulse to slow - he went through a Gate and nothing exploded, see...

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It's a couple of minutes before the door opens. He has time to glimpse two mage-guards outside, and then - 

 

"Altarrin." 

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Sigh. He sits down. 

"This is a room for informal and highly sensitive diplomatic talks. The wards nearly as thorough as the ones on either of our bedrooms. I'm going to cast some myself to make up the difference." 

Altarrin is still watching him, silent and wooden. Which is fair enough, really, but it still hurts - he should ignore that it's not relevant - but, actually, right now he doesn't want to be putting his feelings in a box where he can't even see them. 

He casts the additional wards. 

 

"I wanted us to speak privately. I - made an agreement, with Carissa, that I would ensure your - secrets that the gods oughtn't know, wouldn't go beyond me. But I think I need to know, at this point, to - try to make sense of the last six weeks." 

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Oh. 

That...makes sense. It probably is confusing, from Bastran's perspective, taking reports from suspicious Inquisitors, trying to piece together an understanding of what really happened but without any of the context that explains Altarrin's priorities. 

He suspects that it's going to be hard to talk about even with the reduced compulsions, and - it's terrifying, actually, to know that he's having this conversation while still under the compulsion for truthfulness. He - trusts Bastran to be Emperor. Trusts him further than that, even – and he told Carissa after they had known each other for less than a day, so he's not sure why this is so hard. 

 

"What do you know so far?" 

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A slight shrug. "Carissa said you'd - found a way from hiding your soul from the gods, and sending it back. She was cagey saying anything more." A crooked half-smile. "I've been trying to guess who you were in your first life. Were you Vadast, by any chance? The scholar?" 

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That was two hundred years ago. Altarrin almost laughs, though it isn't really funny at all. 

"I advised him on his research." And laundered much of his own earlier research through him, to avoid suspicion, if not from the gods than from his fellow courtiers. "He was a generation younger. My name was Ravin, at the time." 

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"Oh. And that - that wasn't your first...?

 

 

- how...old are you, really." 

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He has no choice but to answer. "Seven hundred years. ...More or less. I am not sure of my exact age when I - died, the first time - and we are unsure of the exact date of the Cataclysm." 

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"You were alive before the Cataclysm?" 

Pause. 

"...Actually that explains a lot. I probably shouldn't jump to conclusions and assume you were Urtho but - one of his students?" 

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This is technically true but it's still not, really, the answer to the question Bastran is asking. And it still hurts to talk about, which would be a stupid way to feel seven hundred years later, except that it's not as though he had much practice in the interim. 

He would be gritting his teeth but apparently that counts as a voluntary action. 

 

 

"I...was." No, get this over with. "My first name was Kiyamvir Ma'ar. I recall little enough of it, but - I studied at Urtho's Tower, and returned to Predain, to...fix it. And clearly failed. If you wish to know how we ended up in a war that nearly destroyed the world, trust me, so do I.

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He's going to need a minute to absorb that one, actually. 

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Yeah. 

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Right. Focus. 

"I don't think our histories actually include the tidbit that Ma'ar was ever Urtho's student," he says, inanely. "Which, I mean, at this point I'm sort of assuming you wrote half of them, so..." 

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Sigh. "Would it have helped? The Empire remembers Ma'ar as - a charismatic leader, who united and strengthened his country, who was a skilled enough strategist to threaten Tantara, and whose war with Urtho's kingdom nearly destroyed civilization. I am not sure it is useful to add 'and oh, by the way, they were teacher and student once.'" 

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"I just - it must have been more complicated, I can't imagine you - any you - making stupid mistakes - doesn't it bother you -" 

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"Should it? ...Anyway, Urtho was the center of civilization, Urtho's Tower was the best school of magic in the known world, and I– all I ever wanted was for Predain to catch up, but I failed. If we were going to model the new Empire on any past kingdom, Tantara was obviously the better ideal to match." 

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The Emperor looks at him for a long time. 

 

 

"- I think Junior Inquisitor Restra had a point after all," he says finally. "You do seem depressed." 

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Shrug. "I mean, I told her off for not - taking more into account everything you've been through this week. But it's not just just that, is it? I've seen you come back half-dead from full on border wars, and you were jumpy but not - I don't even know how to describe it - you were't bitter. And I guess it must be - kind of awful - to know you almost destroyed the world but that was 700 years ago and nothing about it changed when Carissa showed up. Uh. I guess it would be nicer for you if I could say 'you don't have to tell me until you're ready' but I do need to know. The Inquisitors think Carissa mind-controlled you into being filled with despair about the Empire and that doesn't seem plausible to me but I don't actually have a better explanation." 

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...actually it is maybe literally not possible for him to think about the thing in enough detail while he has, not even his usual loyalty compulsions, but whatever modified and reworded ones the Inquisition replaced them with, which are simultaneously way more restrictive and narrow-scoped than the usual one, and much less useful as a source of motivation. 

He could probably figure it out with some mental re-angling, if he wanted to, but it's still hard to want to talk about  - he can't even - about...the thing... 

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The Emperor watches him -

 

- he could order him to say it, whatever 'it' is, that should win out against whatever is competing with the compulsion to truthfully answer questions, which should really be enough, the only ones prioritized higher than that are 'don't plan escape' which probably isn't related, and the obvious ones, loyalty to Emperor and Empire...

 

 

 

 

 

 

...oh. 

That is maybe, possibly, kind of a bad thing. 

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- maybe it's not that, maybe it's a different thing - maybe this is just Altarrin being in terrible shape mentally and he's too upset to speak - though he actually seems reasonably functional now, like he would be fine if not at full capacity if he went back to his duties in a week with the compulsions fixed - though it's pretty hard to assess how much the compulsions are affecting him - 

 

- but something is wrong and Altarrin is still frozen, not saying anything. 

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In most other circumstances, he would see if he could come at it sideways enough to find out which compulsion was a problem, and tweak it temporarily. 

 

 

His imaginary Kastil is screaming at him that this is a TERRIBLE IDEA and kind of has a point. 

 

 

"Altarrin, I am ordering you to tell me what the thing is that's bothering you that I don't know and that has to do with god-secrets. In detail, please." 

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Compulsions don't normally hurt. Normally, they aren't pulling quite so hard in different directions, or woven into and yanking on such large, core sections of a person's mind. 

The order is going to win, though. 

 

 

"On the first night that we spoke in private, I realized that the Empire is - stagnant - not in its size, it is clearly growing, but as an institution. I realized that the gods must be terrified of rapid progress and change, after the Cataclysm, and - I pulled the Empire in one direction, they pulled it in another, we found a stable compromise and it is not what I wanted to build and it never will be, now. I realized that - there was almost certainly no other way that it could have gone better. I realized that we need to - take the fight to the gods - and that I cannot do that from. From here–" 

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It's clearly hurting him and Kastil would tell him he was being an idiot for taking that into account but he can't not, not right now.

"Stop." 

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It probably is important information for Bastran to have, and also his heart is racing again, and his head hurts very badly, which is making it hard to get his body to stop that. 

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Altarrin stops. He's breathing shallowly, and looks pale. 

Bastran gets up. Pours Altarrin a glass of water, carries it over to him, puts it in his hand. "Drink. Take some deep breaths." The mental stress of ramming through conflicting compulsions on someone isn't supposed to be dangerous, but Altarrin is much older than he is, and nearly died two days ago - the Healers had been worried, trying to get the Inquisitors to allow him enough rest.  

He's not a Healer. He doesn't really want to get a Healer, and...have to explain all this. He can take Altarrin's pulse, though.

"Are you feeling unwell?" 

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Altarrin finishes the water. Takes a deeper breath. "I am not dying, if that is what you mean." 

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"Can we keep going." 

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"Yes." 

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He takes the empty cup. Returns to his seat. 

"I'm going to try yes or no questions. Did you and Carissa make plans to leave the Empire." 

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"..........Yes." 

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He obviously can't remove the loyalty compulsions and be sure it's safe, but maybe he could replace them with the standard version that Altarrin had before and is presumably more accustomed to thinking around - they've already decided he probably doesn't have contagious mind-control even if he's under mind-control - 

 

Imaginary Kastil is shrieking in the back of his mind. 

"Were you planning to leave the Empire in order to plot against the gods with - with more degrees of freedom -?" 

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"Yes." 

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He really can't think of a yes or no phrasing for this. "What was your plan?" 

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"Not - finalized - had not explored implications of combing her her magic... Knew the gods might kill her. Was - not certain - she would continue to be allied. ...One plan I could do without her. Building a new god, to my design. Centuries, probably. And - power. Might be - alternatives - but if not. Blood-magic. Five to - fifty - million. Lives." 

Oddly, this hurts less - at least for compulsion-strain reasons, it hurts plenty for all the normal reasons. He supposes it doesn't so directly imply treason against the Empire. 

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"I see." Bastran's mouth says this automatically, which is good, because he can't seem to actually think. 

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He feels dizzy. "Do you have other questions." 

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"- I need to think. Have some more water." He'll get him a cup. Under normal circumstances he would ask if Altarrin needed anything but that's...sort of a pointless, even cruel question, when you're holding someone prisoner under extensive compulsions and forcing them to painfully answer your questions against the pressure of said compulsions. 

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Altarrin will...sit here not being able to do anything other than drink water, which he doesn't even want more of, he has an upset stomach. And see if letting his mind drift, not thinking about anything in particular, makes the awful grinding strain recede a little. 

 

 

(Is this why he failed so badly at making progress, over the last six weeks? Why he missed the warning signs, why he made stupid mistakes? Because - mental flinch, in multiple different directions at once - it's pretty clear, at this point, that he did make mistakes -) 

 

 

This line of thought is really not helping at all with the headache and he should stop it. 

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The obvious question here is, well, how much of this is mind-control, because it really, really looks like the answer has to be more than zero. 

 

The second obvious question is whether, assuming the minimum possible mind control that seems plausible: that it was one time, that Carissa erased his memory once and put - something - there, either implanting this plan directly or leading him down an inevitable path to it– well. The first question is why Carissa did that, and then went on to seduce the Emperor - (barely a mental flinch at all) - rather than, you know, flee the Empire once they could steal all the spellsilver from the mine.  

- but the second question is: does that, by itself, fully explain Altarrin's mental state, once you factor out the extent to which he's currently upset and fragile for a dozen obvious other reasons. Does it explain the change in him between Carissa's arrival and the attempt on his life in Isk? Because, right now, they don't have any independent evidence that Carissa can directly induce despair, but - with everything else about Altarrin, with the burden he's been trying to carry alone all this time, and how frustrating it must be, to have been there personally to see all the most tumultuous times of the Empire's history, the repeated cycle of two steps forward one step back -

 

- well, it's not like it would take a lot. 

At least, if Bastran pictures himself in Altarrin's shoes, not that he can even imagine doing what Altarrin has done, but if he tries to imagine it then...he would be so tired. He would be so lonely. It would only really take a small, subtle nudge, to push him over the precipice into...giving up. 

And no wonder Altarrin was depressed, compelled to serve an Empire he had already given up on. 

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Well. That's terrifying. 

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...Bastran admits that this theory fails to explain several confusing later events. 

There's an obvious explanation for why Carissa didn't flee, though: because part of the requirement for operating undetected, here, was being placed under her own loyalty compulsions. Which...maybe she can't actually shake off? She might have stayed willingly as well, while Altarrin was alive, and then - realized, after his death, that she wasn't actually free to go...? 

- and that might also explain the surrender? In which case - he isn't actually sure if that implies he should trust her to stick to the conditions more or less

 

The compulsions don't explain saving Altarrin - even to the extent that saving him and risking her life in the process could genuinely be construed as serving the Empire and Emperor, it's not something that the loyalty compulsions force an unwilling person to do, or - well, things would look different. But Altarrin is still a resource to her. Significantly more of a resource than he could have imagined before he knew the man was seven hundred years old and was clearly involved in founding the Empire.

(He did not actually prioritize confirming that Altarrin was the First Emperor but he's definitely assuming it. No wonder he could recite the "textbook orthodoxy"; he's the one who wrote it.)  

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And maybe she actually cared about him, or at least came to care about him. There was - something - between them, in the scry-conversation, that came across a little even in the terrible transcript. Or maybe she just genuinely felt that she owed him for saving her life and buying her freedom, and maybe once she had realized that her compulsions would let her reflexively escape but not run forever... 

Why is he jealous this is so stupid

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Focus. What does this mean? What are his next steps? Imaginary Kastil is SCREAMING VERY LOUDLY that he needs to alert the Office of Inquiry immediately and also clearly he was right. Bastran is going to put imaginary Kastil away for the moment, it's distracting. 

(The decision to be made, here, is whether to trust Carissa's offer to surrender, and move ahead with it. He's not ready to make it yet.) 

He doesn't...want...to tell the Inquisition. Which could be mind control, of course, but - it still looks much more likely that Carissa has highly limited mind-control. Fine-grained, maybe, but - something she could do in private with Altarrin, during the private conversation they already knew happened, the contents of which are unexplained because Carissa told him not to ask - 

 

He should actually, obviously, just ask. He had forgotten, somehow, because it hadn't been obviously part of the secret - and it's obvious that Carissa had an ulterior motive for that, now - 

 

"Altarrin. The night - morning, I guess - when you claimed you'd taken Carissa to the north to handle a problem. What actually happened. Tell me everything in order."

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Oh. 

This is...easier, actually. Just events in order. He can do that. Bastran won't like the answers but it's not like Bastran liked his earlier answers any better. 

 

"I– the night before, I learned she had a spell to enhance 'Wisdom'. She described it as enhancing the mind's ability to notice things and do introspection - I am quite sure she meant it, we had mages watching her and Thoughtsensers reading her continuously from when she arrived, she had no opportunity to cast spells unobserved. It...is mind-altering, but - not in a way where Carissa could exert control." 

Breathe. Stay calm. It's– he can't, actually, reassure his mind that he's safe, this is possibly the least safe he's ever been during this lifetime and maybe more than any other lifetime since Ma'ar's, but he has enough of his mind accessible that he can at least lean very very hard on the fact that panicking won't help

He feels far away from everything. 

"I - realized some things. It is very good for - painful realizations about things you have been avoiding looking at. Things that were easier to realize because I have been doing this for so long, seen enough of the pattern, I - can compare it to what I hoped for at the beginning, and the Eastern Empire is not and never will be Tantara. - We did some good. I truly believe that. We did a service for the world, when no one else had the infrastructure, the schools and libraries, to keep what little magical lore I saved after the Mage Wars alive. But I should have left a century ago. I should have - realized, sooner, that I could plow a dozen more lifetimes into the Empire, and it will never really change."

Shuddering breath. "....I think I would have realized this eventually, even if Carissa Sevar had never come to Velgarth. Maybe even soon. It has been...a long lifetime...and somewhat more obviously than in my last lifetime that the problems are - not ones I am fixing in any enduring sense." 

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"What happened next." 

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"...I asked for her intelligence-enhancing headband - the one she calls Cunning, it helps with working memory and speed - and made some further leaps. Realized about the gods. Realized - a way I could make one." 

 

I was - distressed. Carissa thought the difficulty was with my compulsions, that I was - twisted into an unsustainable shape because of having had disloyal thoughts. I think it was mostly not that - a little of that but I was navigating it, as we all do sometimes - it was just a very upsetting thing to realize! ...It was late. We slept. Carissa sleeps less - she had a Ring of Sustenance and I did not, yet - and she woke well before I did and prepared spells. She offered to cast Owl's Wisdom again. 

 

 

- she dispelled my compulsions instead." 

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Panicking won't help panicking never helps certainly not going to help Carissa who is the person actually in danger here this was going to come out anyway sooner or later better that it's sooner when Carissa is still free 

except that it's too late, he has no way to get a message to her to warn her, why didn't he think of this - because he had no idea the Emperor was going to interrogate him personally about all the secrets but he should have been more careful should have been more paranoid

 

 

 

if Carissa dies he can still get her back someday and he will even if it costs fifty million lives

 

 

(This thought is very quiet, only partly because the compulsions disapprove; it's also just very clearly not a reason to make a choice on that scale, for one person – except that it matters, he thinks, it's - head removers - he promised - if Carissa is willing to trust him for that promise then that's enough and of course in the case it's relevant he has to keep it) 

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"What did you do next." 

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"Panicked. Gated both of us out to a secure facility."

His breath sighs out. The compulsions he's under don't like the evasiveness. "One of mine, I keep caches of my work from previous lives. Please, please, do not ask me where." 

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"You're not the one on trial here." He says it distantly, absently. "No matter what really happened, I don't think it was your fault." 

Altarrin is clearly terrified and this is - such a deeply wrong way for Altarrin to be - and arguably it's exactly what you want in an interrogation but he does not, actually, feel like playing that game. He makes his voice as gentle as he can. 

"Altarrin. I - believe you were trying your best to serve the Empire. Are you– can you see, yet, why I'm worried that what you're seeing might not be reality?" 

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Trapped. Helpless. And he can't just - lean into the exhausted resignation and endure it until it's over, because there's something critical and urgent at stake and he can't - walk away - he promised Carissa he would try to make her immortal -

 

- he promised so much more to so many more people - he made a vow - and the tension there hurts in a different, but no less painful way. 

"I see why you are worried about that." 

He is having kind of a lot of trouble staying in control, apparently having free control of his body is a key step of emotional regulation or something, but it's not going to make it look any less like he's been mind-controlled into despair. 

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"It would make this a lot easier if you were willing to take any of what I'm saying seriously." That was probably unfair but he's so tired. 

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He needs to try harder, and enough of his mind is either walled off and inaccessible to him, or else half a second away from the wrong thought sending it into a spiral of pointless emotional and physiological reactions, that it's unclear how

"I - understand that. I think I have more context than you do. If you believe me that I am centuries old then I think you should not find that at all surprising. I know what godplots look like. I know how to evaluate the trustworthiness of my allies. I know how to - recognize, in someone else, when they - share enough of my goals, and are worth investing in - you have seen me do that, hundreds of times, and trust me I have done it thousands of times before that. I could show you the records, later, once I can do magic again. And I know what my mind is like. I am by no means immune to avoiding painful truths and making obvious mistakes, but I have more practice than - anyone else, almost certainly. I take notes every night and organize them weekly and review them regularly. I would have noticed if Carissa had altered my memories, since I am quite sure she could not Teleport to my records caches and alter my records in a way that would pass muster, however powerful an intelligence headband she wears." 

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It's so unclear if he should be listening to any of that! 

But - it sounds like him, again, in a way where the entire rest of this conversation has felt like - speaking to a version of Altarrin who's broken, the familiar pieces there but not quite coming together. And he does believe Altarrin about his immortality, and not just because of the truthfulness compulsions but because it really does explain a lot. 

 

"What happened next. You were gone for candlemarks." 

 

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"- She explained why she had done it. I said it had been unnecessary but we ought take the time to talk. We discussed plans - we did consider fleeing the Empire immediately but I wanted to return. I - confessed my role in our Cataclysm. We spoke more of her world and her magic, and considerably more of dath ilan. We discussed the details of immortality and how to arrange it for her. We considered ways to test whether the gods' Foresight is blurred around her– ....which we did not actually do and in hindsight I am sure I was nudged to be too busy to think of it." He's so unhappy about it.  

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"That's everything? I mean, I'm sure those topics unpack into a lot longer, but for candlemarks...?" 

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He would shrug if he could, but he can't.

"Those were the major highlights? We made some interim plans - discussed the spellsilver mine - but we did not come to anything more final than that. - Oh, she cast Owl's Wisdom for me again and I thought about dath ilan's system of social control and raised the hypothesis that they were concealing gods and the project of creating a better one. I think that is not especially relevant to - anything here - except to the extent that dath ilan has some genuinely useful insights and mental techniques. Some elements are...oddly similar to how I think, what I have figured out over centuries because it works - and others are things I can learn from and hope to.

"...I suppose the fact that Carissa spent months apprenticed to a dath ilan native is relative, it is– it changed her. After Keltham recognized the conspiracy to hide Hell from him and fled, she was able to notice that her true values did not point at serving Asmodeus, and begin a plan to defy and overthrow him. While still in a position where if she had been caught, she would have been - tortured to death over weeks and then tortured indefinitely in Hell.

- I am not sure you understand how much courage that took. But it is - much of why I think Carissa has far more to offer us than just her magic." 

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He needs to evaluate whether or not that's convincing later. This conversation has gotten very far off the topic he originally planned. 

"And you gave her a Thoughtsensing talisman - why?"  

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"Because I needed her to be able to use her mind, and she is impaired in thinking if she believes her thoughts are being observed. ...Early on she was afraid to - use dath ilani concepts in her thoughts - because in Cheliax it would have been considered heretical. I did not want to spend months soothing her fears before I could expect to have her full mind on fixing our problems." 

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Nod. "And you - already trusted her that far." 

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"...As I said, I think I am - calibrated in my skill at assessing potential allies. I did arrange for Ketar to read her mind once more, since Ellitrea was understandably concerned." 

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He's trying to find a tactful way to point out that Ketar is absurdly easy to manipulate even without mind control, and by all accounts had a crush on Carissa from approximately their first interaction. 

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And Carissa scries the Emperor to get information about where she should go to surrender. 

 

She's committed, now, more or less, barring Altarrin escaping or something. She burned the crate with instructions to his record caches. The compulsions really didn't like that; it took Wisdom and Splendour both, and convincing herself that the only real happy ending for the Empire is if Altarrin has the strength to fight the gods that threaten it. Which is true. She thinks. Keltham in her head disapproves very profoundly of her convincing herself of factual claims about the world in order to be allowed to do stuff, but then he wouldn't have survived Cheliax, would he, and she did. She's flexible. She can let go of the concept of truth, if necessary. 

(Harder to let go of is the fear that the Emperor will end up concluding she's a traitor. But he has Altarrin; if he's betraying her deal, he can get the record-cache locations from Altarrin. And if he's refraining from doing that, then - 

- that's all she can hope for, is that on reflection he doesn't want her dead. If he does, she'll die. This shouldn't be terrifying; it was also true in Cheliax, even if she didn't think about it much.) 

 

When the scry goes through, he's in an unexpected location.

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For one, Altarrin is there! Looking better physically, but even more worn out emotionally, than he did on the morning she assumed he'd recently been tortured. He hasn't noticed the scrying-sensor. 

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The Emperor definitely has! 

 

- he hadn't exactly been considering whether having the conversation with Altarrin immediately meant this might happen. It was the obvious timing for it either way, minimizing how long Altarrin is under less restrictive compulsions and how much downtime he has during that, and also he wanted Altarrin's secret, for context, before making the final call. But he might, in a quiet corner of his mind, also considered whether it would be a convincing offer of good faith to arrange a plausibly deniable chance for Altarrin and Carissa to speak - not entirely privately, but in front of the person Carissa has put her trust in, and who already knows all of Altarrin's secrets. 

He is suddenly much less certain any of this is a good idea, and it doesn't appear he has any time to think. 

 

"Altarrin, you should rest for a bit," he says. He'll get him another cup of water. 

And put a sound-barrier around him, and turn his chair so it looks like he's catching up on the notes he was taking. Altarrin might guess anyway, of course, but he might not, he's clearly distracted. 

 

"Carissa. - I have the instructions ready but I have an important question first. A lot of people noticed a change in Altarrin after you met and spoke in private the first time - said that he seemed exhausted and sad, depressed even. I've been trying to understand why and I want your account of what happened, brief is fine but - all the elements."  

If it matches, that - doesn't mean he can trust Carissa, doesn't mean she can do this - but it's information. 

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She thinks back to it. "I didn't know it was a change, Your Majesty, I hadn't met him before that, I thought maybe he was just a very tired sad person all the time. But if it was something I did it'd probably be the Owl's Wisdom. It's not - it doesn't give the caster an avenue of influence, but it can make you notice things you were trying not to notice. ...he also didn't like, was embarrassed by, the pretenses for the court, the pretending to desire me - I tried to cheer him up about that, it didn't bother me, but I didn't try very hard because I thought he just spent all his time being sad and tired, habitually."

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"No, that was new."

Or, not exactly - it's complicated - but they don't have a lot of time, and the main point is right. Altarrin was - world-weary, before, there was often a sort of resigned cynicism to him, but he had plenty of energy, and who wouldn't be world-weary after more than half a century spent serving the Empire. And...he was lonely, but even Bastran, who knew him as well as anyone, would never have put it that way. Isn't everyone lonely, really, isn't that just what life is

He's tempted to say 'you could have asked what he was like before' but why would that possibly help.

"When he Gated you out to his records cache. What prompted that?" 

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"I used my magic to remove his compulsions. He was startled when I used a different spell on him than he'd been expecting, paralyzed me and dropped us somewhere else."

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He really can't waste more than thirty seconds on this line of questioning, but -

"Did you realize this was treason, and not even an edge case?" 

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"Yes, obviously. I was his, your majesty; I had not yet been made subject to the Empire, or I couldn't have done it."

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Which is - kind of fair of her, it might have been stupid in many circumstances but it's not incredibly fair to frame it as disloyalty to him or to his Empire. And the answers match. Good. Carissa didn't seem like she was being evasive, though of course he might not have caught it....

 

Does any of the new information make the surrender plan a bad idea. ...well, yes, definitely. But right now it feels like all of their options are bad. And one of the paths gives - his gut is saying 70% odds - of getting a result where they do know everything Carissa did and thought, and can compare stories, and - well, if the delay bought her time to erase and replace all her inconveniently treasonous memories, it's still the case that she's deciding to return to the Empire's control. Which is a scenario where they have much more option value to figure something out.

And - he still believes what he said to the Mage-Inquisitor. Which is that - sure, Carissa has done some very suspicious things, and recent revelations haven't helped, but - what would it have looked like, actually, if the suspicion had come up before Altarrin's "death"? If it had been, not a suspected god-assassination, but an ordinary court plot? Not like this, he's pretty sure. She would have gotten reprimands - maybe banned from using Owl's Wisdom - there would have been precautions taken, but in practice, 'seducing an Archmage-General with compulsions' is only treason if the Emperor or the Archmage-General wants to push the point.

And they should maybe be thinking as though they live in that world, right, because one, Altarrin isn't dead, and in the followup, Carissa hasn't acted like someone who wanted him dead. - And knowing that he's immortal makes it seem even more unlikely, both because he's an irreplaceable resource and because he would come back and, one assumes, be rather unamused. Carissa would have to be an idiot to murder him temporarily just to, what, get in bed with the Emperor? Which she didn't even need to do because Altarrin wasn't bothered? And there are other powers with a much longer track record of suspicious assassinations.

 

"In two candlemarks and five minutes - in case you need time for any final preparation - you will Teleport to the scried location of Mage-Guard Arbas, a member of my personal guard. You have a five-minute window. As discussed, I will teleport staff in myself and prevent them from learning your location; I will then be directing the operation from a different secure location unknown to anyone; I will have two guards with me, heavily vetted, but they are not authorized to learn the location or use the communication-spell without my direct orders. Questions?"

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"Given the considerable inconvenience that would be associated with getting my magic items to me - since you're the only one who could Gate them in - would you like me to bring them, not wearing them, in a nonmagical bag I will drop when I arrive? The headband will be necessary for reconstructing most of my interesting chains of thought and a Ring of Sustenance is reckoned in Cheliax as halving the time it takes to get through with someone, and I'm expecting this to take months.

And, forgive me for probably pointing out the utterly obvious, but you've asked me to have no spells active so I want to remind you that means I won't speak the language and won't be able to understand spoken orders."

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"We have a plan for the second part, but thank you for checking."

He rubs his forehead. "...I will - quickly consider the request about your magic items, but I lean toward not. They would still show up to mage-sight, no, whether on your body or in a bag you are initially holding? I worry this leaves more room for one of my people to misinterpret what they are seeing and react unfortunately - even if the gods have little ability to nudge, human error exists without gods and my people are...on edge. Once we determine you are - safely contained, it is not that much additional inconvenience for me."

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"Acknowledged. No further questions, your Majesty." 

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Nod. 

"- As you can see, you contacted me while I was questioning Altarrin in private about things the Inquisitors should not know. We are behind shields approximately as thorough as those on my bedroom or his. If you - I cannot leave you any more privacy but - if there were things you wished to speak of, that you could not say openly before..." 

Altarrin is miserable and it's not your fault but you're sort of causally responsible and I wish you would fix it, he doesn't say. 

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" - if it is your will, your Majesty, I would speak to him briefly."

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He nods. Drops the sound-barrier around Altarrin. Keeps his back turned, politely, though of course he'll be able to hear them. Altarrin's side of it, at least. He's not going to go shove himself right in Altarrin's face to be sure to definitely pick up Carissa's side - he can just order Altarrin to tell him about it afterward, if he's worried. 

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The Emperor will have access to everything she knows anyway, soon, so she's not really bothering to worry. 

"I found your notes in the cave."

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Altarrin had wondered if a conversation with Carissa was happening. Without much curiosity, because what was he supposed to do about it. 

...He still jumps slightly, and then ends up sitting awkwardly and unable to adjust his position. 

 

He's also not at all sure what to say, if they have a small number of minutes and - will find out one way or another, today, if Carissa survives this. 

"Good." It means she found everything else in the cave, that she - had options, other than this, that she was negotiating from a position of some leverage. "What did you..." 

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"I burned it once I'd committed it to memory, along with the instructions on finding the other caches." She still has a headache from it. "Everything else is hidden again, but I expect the Emperor to be able to access it by later today. I won't forget what you did for me. I wish I'd ...pieced everything together sooner."

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"...I wish I had told you. About the notes. I - thought you knew I would be working on it - I had made so little progress and worried it would be the opposite of reassuring, and you - might have had your mind read.... I  wish I had talked to you more, I, just, I hate persuading people via argument that should trust me, it feels like it should be evidence against their trustworthiness - thought I had already given you all the information, why would repeating it change anything, my actions would speak louder than words, but I - I wish I had done something better instead and I am sorry." 

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"The new information was how you were spending your time, not that you were capable of claiming to care about me. - it doesn't matter. You did - more than I would have asked, more than I would've imagined anyone would, and it was my job to protect me, not yours. If I live, we can talk it out later, and if I don't - well, I wouldn't want you distracted by ancient history while you do what we both know needs doing."

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Nod. It still feels to him like there should have been some way to cross that gulf that didn't involve both of them nearly dying... 

 

"In the - worst case, I can still reinvent your magic," he says quietly. "Knowing it exists is - enough, for me," if not for anyone else, "and that will mean– ....I could have done it without but - at such a cost - I try to pay my debts, and I try to keep my promises, and it might take a thousand years but. It needs doing. ...But I think we can do better than that, and will speak again, if not - soon." 

 

Saying this against the pressure of his compulsions hurts kind of a lot, but it's - there are no novel thoughts, there, he just has to force out the words. 

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"Yeah. I think so too."

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Are you all right, he doesn't ask, because what a stupid thing to ask your compulsioned prisoner. Of course Altarrin isn't all right. To the extent that can be construed as in any way Bastran's fault, it's part of the point, and he wouldn't be doing his job if he were prioritizing anything other than answers to his questions. 

He doesn't have the answers to all of his questions, yet, but he can't actually think what he would ask next, or - what missing pieces he could learn, now, that would change the bet he's decided to make. 

 

 

"Carissa seconded your story," he says, tiredly. "About the Owl's Wisdom. And admitted to breaking the compulsions - said it wasn't treason, yet, she wasn't my subject. Is there anything else you want to tell me." 

It's not an order, and 'want' is a deliberate choice of phrasing. 

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"I think you are probably not missing anything - very significant to your decisionmaking about Carissa - that I am likely to remember and be able to convey in enough detail in the next candlemark." He sounds very tired. 

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Sigh. "We're going to have to put the rest of the compulsions back. The Office of Inquiry isn't done with you yet. I'll tell the Healers you need a candlemark to rest, though, once the compulsions are in place." 

 

And he'll summon a mage-guard to Gate Altarrin back to his cell and put back all of his restrictive compulsions. He has preparations to do, to have the facility ready for Carissa in two candlemarks - for one, he has to roll some dice and actually choose the exact location off his list... 

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A secret mission! Mage-Officer Arbas, third highest ranked officer of the Emperor's personal guard, loves secret missions. Especially when they've been stolen from the Office of Inquiry. Arbas doesn't like the Office of Inquiry. They're so - small-minded, most of them, obsessed with protecting their own backsides over and above actually rooting out the secrets they're supposed to be finding. Except Kastil. Kastil is all right, Arbas supposes, he just has the serious personality flaw of never having any fun. 

Someone other than Arbas, assigned to be Gated to an undisclosed location with a small number of other mage-guards and under strict compulsions that include 'not Gating out' and 'not attempting to communicate with the outside world', and then tasked with capturing and incapacitating (well, "accepting the surrender of" but you never assume that's going to go smoothly) a powerful wizard from another world suspected of, among other things, seducing the Archmage-General and then the Emperor with mind control and plotting to convert the Eastern Empire to the worship of a torture god– 

Well. Someone other than Arbas might worry about his survival, or at least his career prospects if he screws this up non-lethally.  

Arbas is mostly thinking that this is going to be so much fun

 

 

Mage-Officer Arbas is young for his rank, in his early thirties. His hair is still only a little silvered; he's a middling Master-potential mage and rarely uses nodes. And he's not even nobleborn; his father might have been a Baron of a border holding on the outskirts of Tolmassar, but his mother was a half-Velvaran, half-Haighlei mutt, spotted at a slave market by one of the Baron's merchant acquaintances and purchased for him as a present - well, bribe - in exchange for some sort of tax waiver. Baron Tremalt decided to keep her as a concubine. He regarded his bastards by her with distant fondness. Albas hasn't forgiven him, but to his credit, he was never cruel

This is not exactly a background that predicts being the third-ranked officer in the Emperor's personal guard by age thirty-six. Even adding in the fact that Arbas is exceptionally clever, and that this was obvious from age three when he taught himself to read, doesn't explain it. 

But his foreign inheritances has its advantages. In the Eastern Empire, Thoughtsensing is incredibly rare - one per fifteen to twenty thousand, by current estimates - and having more than a whisper of the Gift in combination with mage-gift is next to unheard of. But Albas isn't even just a mage-Thoughtsenser, and a rather powerful one, albeit with limited Mindspeech range. He's also a short-range Foreseer. Very short-range, and less flexible than some; usually less than five minutes ahead, and only for events that affect him directly or are at least in the same room. It would be minimally useful in combat, which is where most of the reliable short-range Foreseers end up serving.

It's very useful if one's only responsibility is to ward off threats to the Emperor. 

 

 

A background like his is still a hurdle to be overcome, and Altarrin was the first to recognize and cultivate him. He likes Altarrin fine. The man still doesn't know how to have any fun but at least he doesn't have an enormous stick up his ass at all times. Altarrin was the one who trained him in exactly how to combine unusually high-fidelity Thoughtsensing with the ability to cast compulsions on the fly, whether for spying or interrogations. Altarrin doesn't fully appreciate the delightful puzzle of taking apart a prisoner's mind - especially doesn't appreciate the joy of testing how far you can break someone and still put them back together afterward - but how could he, he's not a Thoughtsenser. Poor Altarrin. 

After ten years of other various assignments - mostly interrogation, he's very good at it - Altarrin got him a position on the Emperor's guard. It's a pretty sweet assignment, as they go, and he's loyal to the Emperor. Compulsioned to it, of course, with the specially-worded compulsion used for the Emperor's personal guard, which is both more tightly worded and broader in scope than the usual - and, unlike for almost anyone else, ranked above generic loyalty to the Empire. But he's loyal beyond that, too. Altarrin explained his interests here very clearly: as long as he loyally serves the Emperor and has the Emperor's trust - and as long as he points his skills at the Emperor's safety and not at unrelated court drama - then he can do just about anything he wants. Arbas wasn't hard to convince on this point; most of the court plots are petty and stupid and just boring. And it's not hard to be loyal to Bastran as a person. He treats his staff well and he doesn't micromanage - he generally doesn't want to hear any details of what Arbas is up to at all. 

The Emperor occasionally gives him direct assignments, and of course he's always with Bastran if he leaves the palace, but mostly Bastran lets him work independently and pick his own priorities. Arbas actually missed the early excitement around Caris - tragically! - because he was off collecting blackmail material on the Minister of Education's second-in-command, who seems like the sort who might cause some...trouble, down the line...if Arbas isn't ready to arrange a polite conversation when the time comes and point out certain realities to him. But it sounds like he's not going to miss out on all of it after all. 

(Arbas is also loyal to the Empire, but in a more abstract way, and it's very rarely what drives him moment-to-moment. People are interesting to him, but the Empire isn't a person. And the Empire has never done much for him. It was people like Altarrin who did that.) 

 

 

 

Anyway! While nerves might be reasonable, Arbas is looking forward to this so much

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Behind impassible scrying and other wards, the Emperor rolls some dice. Goes down his list, consults a map. 

 

- far-northern island of Trusk, abandoned non-magical-sciences research facility. Heavily shielded, because it's an area of high geothermal activity. But for all the geological oddities of the island - he might worry about earthquake risk somewhere else - Trusk seems to be a place the gods can't or don't bother to reach much of the time at all. The shields should be adequate, his assigned team will check and reinforce them in the two candlemarks of preparation time, Carissa will have her own protective talisman as of thirty seconds in, and Mage-Officer Arbas can contact the Emperor in an emergency. And has a conditional-compulsion that if the facility collapses he's still not allowed to Gate home but he can Gate them up to the surface

The team should be assembled. Even though they're in a secure facility, he's still Gating out from a Work Room, to avoid anyone outside the room having the slightest chance of guessing at the Gate's distance or bearing. 

 

There's really no point, this far in, in being scared. Feelings, go in your box. He doesn't like the uncertainty but it'll be resolved soon enough. 

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Ten minutes after Carissa cut the scry, Mage-Officer Arbas is where he's supposed to be, and the Emperor requests a final meeting with Mage-Inquisitor Beatta.

 

...In twenty minutes, which he's going to spend in his secure, warded-against-scrying office, writing a letter. He seals it with magic, and places it in his personal records-safe, on the top. The safe is even more thoroughly magically locked, its spell only keyed to him, but if anything the strongest protection is the embossed letters on the top. BY IMPERIAL ORDER, FOR THE EMPEROR'S EYES ONLY. 

The lock-spell re-keys itself on the Emperor's death. (It's a lot of extra work to set it up that way. The safe is over two hundred years old, the work of a genius scholar, and no one alive would know how to replicate it. ....Unless the genius scholar was Altarrin? Which is very plausible.) Anyway. Its purpose is for personal notes that an Emperor wants his successor to have access to. Bastran uses it a lot more than most Emperor's; it's already a third full and, if he avoids assassination, he could easily reign for another century. 

(He's not going to make it another century if he keeps taking risks like this one, but he...kind of knew that from the beginning.) 

The letter doesn't mention Altarrin's immortality, obviously. But it has his redacted notes on what happened the night of Carissa's arrival, including confirmation from both Carissa and Altarrin that she has a spell which can instantly remove all compulsions - and if someone is reading this, it's because the Emperor is dead, and they should assume Carissa is a potential existential threat to the Empire. 

 

 

He goes to meet with Beatta. 

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Mage-Inquisitor Beatta serves at the Emperor's pleasure, and is therefore ready to attend on him. "Your Majesty."

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He's very serious. 

"I'm finished with Altarrin. Had my people put the compulsions back, but I'd recommend giving him a candlemark to rest if the Junior Inquisitor wants him coherent, his stamina isn't great and - I see her point, about his mental condition. - I can't report the details of what we spoke about, it's part of the agreement with Carissa and also I - having heard it - fully agree that it would be terrible for the Empire's interests if the gods knew enough to oppose their plan directly. But I can give you a little context." 

 

He frowns. Chooses his words carefully. 

"One. You - weren't wrong, that Altarrin's behavior changed when Carissa arrived. He admits to having asked Carissa to cast 'Owl's Wisdom' on him - it's the same spell as the one from the headband that's supposed to make you wiser, but the standalone spell is more powerful. Both admit it's mind-affecting, it gives you - sharper hindsight, more ability to reflect on your past choices. Altarrin has had a long career. I am sure he made many choices that were, in hindsight, mistakes. Maybe there was more but it does not seem necessary, to me." 

He pauses. 

"The second part is...hmm. So - imagine a world that had never heard of blood-magic, and was chronically short on mage-energy for any of their projects, learning about our world. It'd be good news, overall, right? Having more resources usually is? But in this case, it's - a resource that you can only use by executing people. We know even the First Emperor didn't start out using it. So - a new kind of magic can give you more options, and that's good, but it can still be - something that's upsetting to come to terms with." Sigh. "You're right, he's - in a bad way, but I think that explains it. Admitting his past failures to himself, and - realizing that fighting the gods with Carissa's magic will take some compromises he never wanted to make." 

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What His Majesty commands is clearly correct; if His Majesty believes that Altarrin can be trusted in spite of mental modification, then Altarrin can be trusted.

(inside: aahhhhhhh)

She understands the first part. A spell of doubt was cast on him intended to make him wiser; it made him realize how much his previous actions had failed to live up to what he now knew, driving him to despair. The second part... inside Beatta's mind, she sort of assumed that once you made it to high office, you got over how the world works. *She* did. She's kind of disappointed that Altarrin didn't.

"As you say, your Majesty." Presumably if the Emperor wanted him released he would say that, and he thinks Restra did a good job, but Beatta should still put some energy into getting her to improve conditions, she doesn't want a pissed-off Altarrin coming after her.

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This is indeed what the Emperor wants! 

(...Well, no, he wants Altarrin fully cleared of suspicion and freed and at top form to help him figure this immensely confusing situation out. That's not something he can get, no matter what he orders the Mage-Inquisitor to do.) 

"Please complete the investigation to your satisfaction," he adds. "There are a number of unanswered questions, and - I can put more trust in the answers we find, if Altarrin and Carissa's interrogations are as fully siloed as possible. I am satisfied with your work so far." 

 

 

And he'll dismiss her, and collect some final possessions, and head to a different Work Room, and Gate, with his two compulsioned guards, to a different secure underground compound that they probably wouldn't consider quite secure enough if not for the fact that no one knows where they are. 

It's been about 45 minutes since Carissa's scry ended. 

 

 

He kicks the mage-guards out into the hallway, sits in his shielded office, sets up his own an artifact-assisted scry to watch the room they set up to hold Carissa, and waits. 

He brought his harp. He plays it. 

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Carissa scries Mage-Officer Arbas at the designated time, gets the location. Says through the scry, "This is Carissa Sevar, confirming that I will Teleport momentarily to your location unless you have other instructions for me." Her voice is flat and unreadable, almost indifferent; this is a stranger, and even though they will shortly know everything about her it would be unbearable for them to know, now, that she is afraid.

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The shields are in place. It didn't take long; whoever did the original work on this place was good, it's barely deteriorated at all despite the fact that it was built 120 years ago and hasn't been used in the last fifty. 

"Acknowledged," he says, and alerts the Emperor via communication-spell, and prepares himself. The two other Adept-strength guards are with him to provide firepower, if necessary, but he's the one with a dozen compulsions already mostly woven together, ready to fling at Carissa in a fraction of a second. Most people can't do that - usually the protocol would be to have a dozen mages prepping one compulsion each to cast simultaneously - but most people aren't Arbas, are they. 

(The Healer on site to knock Carissa unconscious as soon as he's taken her down is in the other room; she's squishy, and if Carissa chooses not to cooperate, it's possible she could survive the ensuing firefight. He'd be a little annoyed with himself if he got her killed, she's cute.) 

 

And? 

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She's been told she has five minutes, and she's not planning to make them wait towards the end of that window.

 

She has no objectives for this. There's no point. She's tough, but she would be delusional to imagine they could not break her if that's what they decide to do. If the Empire doesn't happen to employ torture, it is because it has found a way to get the same results through other methods. Anything she is hoping to conceal, they'll find specifically by following her hopes to conceal it. The thing that matters for her long term interests is getting it done with as quickly as possible, before the Emperor has had that much time to be advised in fatal-to-her directions, but she's not planning to steer for that either. If this is competently run, they'll specifically be making sure she isn't steering; she'll be a collection of information whose inputs they alter, and whose processes they interrupt, in order to get the outputs that interest them. She can save them a bit of time by believing whatever they want her to believe and obeying them and not being difficult to put into preferred states whether those are cooperativeness or terror or confusion, and that is the full extent of her intentions.

She's naked. If her read of the Emperor is right he'd have hesitated to order that, even though it's obviously an element of arriving visibly and unambiguously defenseless and unarmed. There are no spells affecting her.

Her gods-deadman's switch is set up in a Rope Trick that in eight hours will expire and dump a bunch of pamphlets on a distant city. Dangling from the rope is a mage-artifact the Empire will easily be able to Gate to, if they capture her alive and in any condition for questioning.

The last step is taking off her headband.

 

 

 

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It hurts. As much as the first day, kneeling in Altarrin's office, expecting she'd never be able to think like that again. If she survives this she probably will get it back but - not for a long time, probably. She's gotten accustomed to being able to think clearly and now half her trains of thought go places she can't follow, threads hanging bare in the wind. 

Which means she shouldn't try thinking and should obey the plans that smarter Carissa made.

 

Teleport.

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Oh, she's hot. (He heard the boy version was gorgeous but obviously you'd make yourself attractive, if you had shapeshifting powers and were specifically out to seduce the Emperor. There were fewer rumors about Carissa in her original form, since she kept to herself.) 

 

The other mages are here to check her for items she wasn't supposed to bring. Arbas' role is to cast all of his dozen carefully layered compulsions at once, and then read her to make sure they all stuck, and keep iterating until she definitely has no wiggle room anywhere. (This isn't a state in which you can feasibly interrogate someone when conscious, he's figure out the exact shape he wants her mind in before they wake her, but with his level of skill - and the fact that Rosha is also a weak Mindspeaker and can do rapport with him to calibrate the exact depth of unconsciously they're maintaining her at - he should be able to make his way through a fair number of her memories before waking her fully again.) 

 

Compulsions! They slip around her mind with surprising subtlety and grace, given that one of the most obvious ones doesn't just block voluntary movements but also doing anything with her muscles, including 'continuing to stand up'. She's going to collapse in a heap on the stone floor.

And there's a block on the level of predicting what's going to happen even in the next half a second, and on forming and posing questions even in her own thoughts, and on forming an intention to resist (which she can't do anyway) and, further upstream than that, on wanting to form an intention to resist - and all of those repeated for 'intention to escape', and for 'intention to harm anyone' and 'intention to misdirect anyone', and also 'intention to please anyone' because that's in fact a direction of motivation that many if not most prisoners being interrogated have, and it's fine in its place but it's honestly kind of annoying when he's still getting himself situated. 

 

 

He reads her mind. She's presumably not in any shape to resist even if her non-magically-assisted native shields could hedge him out, which he doubts, Arbas can often find his way around chinks in the shields of even decent mages. 

He could do it very subtly, if he felt like it, but he doesn't feel like it, he wants her to notice. 

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- oh. 

 

Alive. That's good. 

 

Someone's reading her mind. Ellitrea and Ketar weren't intrusive; this is. 

 

The next several things she tries to think about from there are impossible, there's nothing there, not ropes that her thoughts trip over but invisible pits they fall into and die, and it's - really disorienting, it's hard to identify where a thought went when it dies like that, and most of the first few thoughts she has in response to her thoughts failing are themselves planning-shaped or intention-shaped or -

 

- hopeless dizzy disoriented horror -

 

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They've landed pretty well; she wasn't fighting it at all. He adds a few tweaks.

He might consider trying to block the desire to have thoughts but he's not sure he actually can, most people don't - keep trying that hard - it's fascinating to watch, really - he's so curious if she's going to find a thought that's still allowed... 

 

The Emperor wanted him to be efficient, especially about the initial part - said she might have laid precautions against the gods killing her, that they'll want to know about and deal with - but thirty seconds of making sure his compulsions are really solid before he lets Rosha in here is only reasonable anyway. 

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- Carissa. It takes her maybe ten seconds to land on. It's not a prediction, not an intention, not a question, just a small solid thing in the floating formless horror.

 

Smarter Carissa thought she should do this. Smarter Carissa was looking out for her, calculating what paths led them to survival and immortality. Smarter Carissa can be trusted. Smarter Carissa sent her here. This is smarter Carissa's will. This is okay. This is okay because it's what smarter Carissa wants. 

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Awwwwwwwwwwwwww that's adorable. What a clever fascinating thing to land on. He almost wants to pet her and then poke her mind harder, perturb that small solid anchor from different directions just to see what happens, but - efficiency. 

 

He calls Rosha in.  

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Rosha cannot say this is her favorite mission of all time! It's dangerous, and it means working with Arbas, who likes her but it's sort of uncomfortable to be one of the people Arbas likes. 

 

She'll come in and push Carissa into unconsciousness, though, which is apparently supposed to work fine on her? And check for injuries at the same time, might as well. 

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She has way too much life force, but is only a little harder than usual to push unconscious, for all that. 

She's not injured, other than from falling to the floor. She's well-nourished, well-rested, generally in good physical condition.

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He watches to make sure her mind is fully quiescent, orders the Adept mages to check her more thoroughly and up close for subtle artifact signatures and/or anything that doesn't look magical but can be removed from her body (her hair stays on and isn't a wig, right?), and if that's all clear, they'll carry her over to the cot at the side of the room. (This is less because it seems important to be particularly considerate to the prisoner, and more because Rosha complained that she'll get bedsores if they want to keep her paralyzed for a week, and besides, it's more comfy to hang out in a chair.) 

 

He does that. 

He tells Rosha to lighten the Healing-unconsciousness a little. Not enough for spontaneous thoughts, not really enough for Carissa to be experiencing anything let alone forming memories of it, but enough that he can yank on the compulsions he's placing and see if they do anything. 

With Carissa still out, he starts loosening some of his compulsions. No planning allowed, but he wants her able to follow a train of thought, just - not to form intentions about it or connect it to her goals. The best way to get that is to remove all of the blocks on predictions and future-expectations and making inferences from observations, and then more thoroughly reinforce the wall between that and her preferences and goal-oriented mental processes, mostly by adding very specific compulsions - narrow scope is stronger, harder to wiggle around, while also interfering less with the thoughts he wants to be able to read. The downside is that he has to do, like, fifty of them, for things as specific as 'no forming intentions to read text' and 'no forming intentions to want to a different temperature'. Carissa will be, as much as he can manage it, a coherent thread of consciousness that can retrieve facts and interpretations of them without having preferences over the content or where he steers her. 

 

This takes about half a candlemark, because even for Abras, laying fifty precisely-placed compulsions on a mostly unconscious mind is slow work. 

 

When he's done to his satisfaction, he asks Rosha to ease up some more. Not all the way to consciousness, but to a state more like artificially-induced dreaming sleep, or heavy drugs. (Most Healers can't do this with nearly that degree of precision; it's not standard curriculum, and not having Thoughtsensing makes it nearly impossible to get feedback and calibrate it that exactly. Rosha is very good.) 

 

He sends preference-less, half-dreaming Carissa a vivid mental image of herself appearing in the room, and then - wordless tug - follow the thread of associations, he's aiming for 'replay the events just before this' but he's new to her mind and won't be surprised if he gets some completely different association instead. He almost hopes for that. It'll be interesting. 

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- last time she was a naked helpless prisoner. For Abrogail, though at first the room had appeared to be empty, and she'd been desperate, so she'd started trying to kill herself with the spellsilver six feet away, trying to build a scaffold that'd stretch that distance and then twist the spellsilver into something that would kill her before the guards noticed. 

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Well. What an intriguing woman! He recognizes the name Abrogail, it was in the briefing notes - he'll come back to it - 

 

Not what he needs urgently, though. Nudge away from that - maybe come at it from another angle. Mental image of looking down on a room with the Emperor in it through a magical window. (The room has no features in his mental picture of it; he wasn't there, after all.) 

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She'd settled by then on doing the scries while outside the Rope Trick, in a sort of harness attached to the Rope, with the scrying mirror in the Rope Trick; she'd been worried they'd trace it, Gate in on her, and Final Strike, and a Final Strike in the demiplane wouldn't escape it. (She did have to stick her head in, but she could drop out at the first sign of a Gate or other disturbance.)

So she'd been dangling in midair, one hand holding the harness so that if she released her grip she'd fall and one hand free to repeatedly cast Message, all her possessions in the Bag of Holding over her shoulder. Also she'd been another species, a sort of hideous goblinoid a foot taller than a human. The routine changes of species helped with making her harder to find, and with holding on to the rope harness without her arm getting tired. 

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Clever! He relays some rapid-fire Mindspeech to one of the Adepts - now in one of the separate shielded rooms, out of range - to take notes on how Carissa combined her magic for this. 

 

And then - push forward, raw intention more than words - what happened next - 

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It's hazy, but it's all there. It hasn't been long at all and she had planned her movements in advance, chosen every minute carefully. 

She casts Fly. Takes the scrying mirror with her and dismisses the Rope Trick. Flies on for a while, nearly the whole duration of the spell, until she's over a city, and makes a new Rope Trick. Unloads stacks of paper with diagrams on them into the Rope Trick, takes the scrying mirror out again -

- she's scared, even in this vague foggy memory that doesn't include her thoughts because she's not presently thinking -

Takes a fairly unique-looking shielding artifact out, activates it, and ties it to the rope. Harnesses herself and does a scry again, to get Arbas, while dangling harnessed on the underbelly of a dimensional pocket again.

 

And then it's time to go. She puts the mirror in the bag. Strips off the shapeshifting headband, returns to her Carissa-form. Strips off some other protective magic items, dropping them in the bag as she goes. 

 

The one that is significant to her - strong emotions attached to the memory - is the headband. It's not just fear, as she takes it off, it's grief. She would very plainly have preferred to blind herself. 

 

And then calm resignation. She adds it to the bag, puts the bag back in the extradimensional pocket, and Teleports. 

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Great. That looks like it. 

 

 

- and is the sort of thing that would obviously be a trap, if she were inclined to slip that past them. He's going to - pause there, go back to the unique-looking shielding artifact. (Huh - what is that? Velgarth magic, he thinks, just not a style he's ever seen before.) Presumably intended as a Gate-target.

 

He loosens the compulsion on, not any specific future-planning, but recalling past strategies. And - you can Mindspeak people in their sleep, especially if they're being forcibly kept from waking up startled by it - he hasn't been getting much of Carissa's reasoning so far, but he might he able to get the memory-thread of it with the right poking...

:Plotting a trap?: he sends.

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- confused, disoriented -

- what is he asking about -

- there've been lots of people plotting lots of traps - for Keltham for Carissa for Dispater for Golarion for Altarrin -

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Yeah, fair enough. Sometimes the memory-context is enough, but often not. 

He prompts Rosha to nudge her a little closer to consciousness - more like a dozing semi-lucid dream state, one where she won't be especially forming memories - and still shouldn't be particularly able to form goals or steer - but can hopefully follow a sentence. 

:The extradimensional space you left with a talisman as a Gate-target. Is it a trap that will harm anyone who Gates to it: 

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- oh. the god's deadman's switch.

- no. safe. they have until the spell expires. nine hours from when she cast it. 

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He asks Rosha to nudge her into a much deeper sleep, again, if they keep her close to consciousness she's more likely to register some kind of memory of having been asked the question and he wants to keep her disoriented. 

 

Communication-spell to the Emperor.

<Found her contingency measures. Appears to be an extradimensional space above a major city - outside the Empire, looks like - with a very memorable talisman on the rope. Similar idea to her plan for Healing Altarrin, I guess. Seems the plan was for us to Gate before the spell for the extradimensional space runs out, but we should have at least eight candlemarks. Advise?> 

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<...Not a hurry, then. Learn as much as you can, reassess in - four candlemarks - I want more on her general goals and intentions before we take that risk> 

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<Acknowledged.> 

To Rosha, :- back to dreaming level, I have more to do: 

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Nod. She can do that. 

(Probably if their prisoner is cleared of wrongdoing and freed, and - the sort to be vengeful - she's more likely to go after Arbas, and not the meek quiet Healer who enabled him? Probably?) 

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And Carissa should be back in a floating not-quite-sleep, where dream-images of memories and emotional impressions can surface easily, and where he can pull out thought-impressions from there with some more effort, if he needs them. 

 

Four candlemarks, to find out what makes a Carissa work. Ideally without having to wake her up fully or let her remember any of this, and - while learning enough of her life story that he can drop tidbits when he interrogates her properly, and let her assume he could know anything

Where to start, where to start... 

 

:Asmodeus: he prompts. Free-associate on that concept, Carissa, what is Asmodeus to you? 

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It's not quite a memory. It's - a collection of different things that got narrativized in her head as one memory, somehow. The real conversation was probably shorter, and less theologically precise. 

 

 

She's five, and attending her first public execution, with her father; he has her on his shoulders so she can see over the crowd. The thing, he tells her, is that when you arrive in Avernus, everything is on fire, and you need the strength to go and get in line, to be assigned where you're useful; and if you're too weak, if you can't bear some pain now for some benefit later, then you can just lie there in Avernus on fire forever, useless to Asmodeus, reduced eventually into a brick that could build a fortress, maybe eventually killed in an incursion from the Abyss or from Heaven. 

So you have to be strong enough, Carissa, to pick yourself up and go get in line - or, if you become a very powerful wizard when you grow up, then you'll be permitted to make your own advance arrangements. 

This man's suffering, Carissa, it's nothing. Hell will be worse than this. This suffering is, perhaps, a gift to him, if he's wise enough to take it, if he's used to it by the time he gets to Hell. If it makes him more obedient, more shaped to serve Asmodeus. And if instead it breaks him, then he just wasn't strong enough to be a devil, was he?

 

Do you think I'm strong enough to be a devil, she said. 

No, he said. I've seen you cry. I've seen you be disobedient. You're worthless to Asmodeus. If you die you'll be nothing, forever, for sure. 

And her lip started to wobble, and he said "See? - no, Carissa, you're worthless, but you're also five. All five year olds are worthless. We couldn't sell you for much in this world, either. You're going to grow up, and hopefully you're going to grow out of disobedience, and out of weakness. Ask me when you're twenty."

 

But of course she didn't, because as was entirely obvious by the time she was twenty, asking would've been weakness.

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"You said you wished to negotiate a contract with the Executive collective of Cheliax regarding formal and informal rights of information and its dissemination.  I am Contessa Lliratha, advisor from Hell to the Chief Executive of Cheliax, and my signature is binding upon the Executive collective of Cheliax.

 

 

...

 

 

(Someday she's going to die and if she is EXTREMELY brilliant and EXTREMELY perfect then someday after that she will get to be like that and it'll be worth all the agony in between.)

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It makes sense, though. Mortals didn't have free will. Now they do, and it displeases Asmodeus, but no one has a complete account of what free will is, because they're not gods, and don't understand what exactly displeases Asmodeus. But that might just be it. Gods, innately, reason in truth-preserving ways. Of course they would. Lying to yourself for self-preservation is a thing you only have to do if you have wrong beliefs and can't argue yourself out of them because you don't know the counterarguments, and so you have to stop thinking about them. That is not a problem gods have. Gods just reason correctly. And in Keltham's world - there's still the concept of infohazards, things you're not supposed to learn, presumably because you're only human and can't properly have the kind of mind that entertains that fact in a way that allows for continued useful functioning -

- something about that frame isn't quite right but despite that she feels like everything is coming together.

Minds should reason in truth-preserving ways. Someone, a long time ago, robbed humans of that, and Asmodeus is angry. Carissa is angry! That was her birthright, and she wants it back. And Asmodeus thought, until Keltham arrived, that the scars they'd wrought on human souls could only be corrected in Hell - or at least could most cheaply for Asmodeus be corrected in Hell - but in Keltham's world, where humans do not magically reason in truth-preserving ways, they figured out, possibly over many thousands of years of careful experiments, how to teach it. And Asmodeus saw that and immediately told them not to hurt Keltham, because -

- okay, that line of thought she's going to tuck away for later, it seems maybe ill-advised. Sufficient that Keltham got Asmodeus's endorsement immediately.

Minds should reason in truth-preserving ways. The books ought to have good arguments. Devils are masters of propaganda, but aren't convinced by it. Carissa - doesn't think of herself as convinced by it, the books are really presenting their conclusions not their arguments, but - but that's because the books think humans aren't doing reasoning well enough to be persuaded by argument, and humans can learn that. At least smart ones. And if they knew it, then you could just argue everyone out of all the heresies, their minds wouldn't possess the weaknesses that make that strategy doomed, that make it necessary to present them with conclusions they won't be able to understand. Or at least - less of it. Keltham did have the concept of things he was not meant to learn. 

(More things that suddenly make sense: what the Starstone does to you, why it changes some people more than others. Godhood, even more than devilhood, would preserve you to the extent that you are worth preserving - to the extent that you have learned the processes of reasoning - Irori ascended just by becoming perfect, and everyone writes that off as a strange one-off that only Irori could do but in dath ilan they teach it -)


It has to be done all at once, she realizes. There's a terrible middle ground where you are trying to reason things out, but you are incompetent to do it, and so you run right into all the heresies that you could have been protected from by not trying to reason. You would absolutely fail a loyalty check, in the middle of trying to learn how to think. But at the end of it - Asmodeus arrived at His beliefs through reason. And He hates it, that humans were changed, so they can't, and He wants them changed back.

 

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"What does happen in Hell, exactly?" 

 

Oh boy. 

"You turn into a devil gradually, one as cool as Lrilatha if you are very dedicated and smart and willing to work at it; people get sorted and the exact process and kind of devil depends a lot on what suits you and what's achievable with you as a starting point. I think it doesn't involve any logic lessons in the median case which is sort of confusing but my guess is that the median person isn't smart enough to learn that way. A lot of it...based on what you said I would say it's aimed at changing how human instincts and intuitive processes work to be more Lawful, instead of teaching it explicitly. My great-grandfather complains about it but my great-grandfather complains about everything. It is pretty common for people to say that it hurts, at various points - like seeing something very very bright when you've only ever seen dim things, or stretching your legs when you've been sitting on them for a thousand years. It is not at all common for people to say that they regret it or want to stop halfway through."

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          "Tell me," Elias says to her, "how you reconcile the teachings of our god with the teachings of dath ilan."

Oh, wow, this conversation is going to suck. "Dath ilan is different from our world, and I think less of Keltham's lessons transfer than he realizes," she says blandly. 

         "I forgot to mention," Elias says, "that I'm in a hurry, and that your ability to say things that don't mean anything isn't in question. What's wrong?"

"- he's got to be wrong about Law and Chaos because if that's all there was to it some church would explain it that way, and they don't. He's got to be wrong about, uh, I think dath ilan teaches things well for if you're going for the Starstone, but badly for if you're going to Hell, because you don't need a lot of initiative at making progress on unstructured questions and developing it before you're a devil seems like it involves a lot of indulging lazy human impulses -"

         "Cleverly said. Is that a trade you want to make, becoming less useful to Hell after death to be more useful to Keltham?"

"- I think it serves Asmodeus, for me to... indulge weak human impulses temporarily, if that's all I can do to try to understand dath ilan's technology. We'll make Cheliax stronger and more powerful and more useful to Him, and if I require more correction subsequently, so be it."

         "I think you'll require different correction, at least. But there is opportunity to arrange it in advance."

This is hardly even surprising so it's confusing that Carissa feels like she's falling, and like her fingertips are tingling. "Of course."

         "We've made arrangements with some devils for purchase contracts with the students here. Take your time to read it over, of course. We're going to invite most of the students to a signing ceremony tonight, but it sounds like you've made conflicting plans?"

"Well, I don't know, can I bring a date?" asks Carissa sweetly. Elias slaps her, harder than that really warranted (though it did warrant it), hard enough to kill someone who wasn't a wizard. Maybe he's otherwise having a bad day. 

        "You have an hour to read it over and request any changes to the terms," he says, and (apparently) leaves.

 

Carissa is not under the impression she is alone.

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She should not assume she's alone but she doesn't have that much more stamina for maintaining composure. She kneels at her bedside in a distinctly imperfect posture for prayer and hides her face in her hands and trembles violently until it's possible to think about something other than the apparent deficit of air in this room. That takes a couple of minutes.

Asmodeus noticed her. And Asmodeus has instructions for her. And Asmodeus does not want her to sell her soul, which - 

- okay, this is the most trivial feature of the situation, but it means she does not get permanent undispellable arcane sight, and she was really looking forward to that! And all of the other girls are going to have it! She's going to be falling behind in magic lessons and have no way to explain why. Not that she's ungrateful, but - Asmodeus could've given His instructions and also taken her soul -

- presumably that's false, actually, presumably it's actually important for some reason that Carissa keeps her soul, she doesn't understand and she shouldn't expect to understand, the reason here is not going to be in that space where a human thinking about it really hard can comprehend it, it's going to be in the space that a human can't make any sense of at all.

But there are some features of the situation that she ought to be capable of comprehending, or no one would have tried to tell her things. 

Asmodeus noticed. He noticed that she was trying to build the true philosophy, the version that they would have come up in dath ilan where everyone is smarter and lawfuller and carefuller, if they were also Asmodean, and He thought it was worth directing her to do it properly. And His direction was -

- she should write it down before she forgets -

She stops praying to do that. 

Serve Me well in this world and you shall be raised high in it."

"Remember that you are not Irori.  Do not think yourself likely to succeed in perfecting yourself without divine aid."

"Acknowledge the desires in yourself that have no place in Axis, and accept that your rightful place is in Hell."

"Come to Me in Hell without thought of other choices, as mortals once did in the days before they were cursed with their own wills, and you shall be among the most treasured of My possessions."

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"Next. Regarding the fascinating rumors, I find myself in the fortunate position of being able to clarify some of them. 

 

The Church of Asmodeus has declared it a heresy to say that my followers will be granted mercy in Hell. Some heresies are tolerated on this Project, but that one, I think, might cause a great deal of drama, of which we have enough. The truth is this: I intend that my followers be granted power and glory in Hell. I intend that they become devils better than any existing devils.

 

No other details of their future are, as of yet, settled, and you should not recite heresies about it.

And finally. What punishment is warranted for those who, for their own reasons elaborate or simple, stupid or clever, wasted precious time in the fight for our nation's life on stupid infighting? Some of you I will speak to of this individually. But there is one punishment that I think ought to be meted out while we are all assembled. Researchers. Is there any Security whose presence on the Project - because of his conduct or because of his stupid face, I don't really care - is on an ongoing basis making it harder for you to do your best work?"

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(Like opening your eyes to stare directly at the sun...)

 

  

Asmodeus is not a god who gives you what you want as a reward for your service to him. Asmodeus is owed your service. You cannot become a Power in Hell through your exceptional and exemplary service to Asmodeus; you'll just be Asmodia, plaintively saying to everyone around that they should do what's in Cheliax's interests, while they laughed at her, while Maillol laughed at her, while Avaricia laughed at her, while they knew the rules she was born outside, didn't know, must have known, the strong win and the weak suffer.

 

She could conquer all of Cheliax and in Hell she would be Asmodeus's most treasured possession; He told her that. She could build an army of devils and it wouldn't make her a Power in Hell. She could understand everything perfectly, have all the answers, and that would make her a very clever slave.

 

 

 

 

 

The way to fix Hell isn't to purchase Asmodeus's gratitude. It's to fucking fight him, and beat him, and make him do what you say. 

 

 

 

 

 

If humanity could overthrow Asmodeus they obviously should. She was using this fact about the world to make predictions already, on some level, even though actually thinking it feels like falling off a cliff she can never, ever climb back up. It is in the interests of Asmodeus to enslave humans; it is not in the interests of humans to be Asmodeus's slaves. It is worse for them than many of their other options; of slaveowners, even assuming the rest of the gods are precisely that, Asmodeus enjoys tyranny, enjoys cruelty, enjoys subservience. A master who only wanted the products of their slaves' work would be kinder. Carissa, when she only wants the products of her slaves' work, is kinder. 

Four months ago Carissa believed that Asmodeus would conquer all those other gods. Even narrowing down to the worlds where that wasn't a lie all along, Keltham changed it. Now, whichever power wields Keltham will win everything. She knew that. She said it aloud, in strategy discussions - that if Keltham made it to Osirion and Cheliax wasn't able to wipe it and him out, then Cheliax would be defeated. Keltham thought that Civilization could perhaps directly win a war with Zon-Kuthon. Now, there's no question in her mind, he's planning for Civilization to go to war with Asmodeus. 

 

Asmodeus might win.


Asmodeus is not obviously going to win. Abadar, too, is an ancient god. And Irori has something to do with this, she doesn't really actually believe that Asmodeus warned her off him just because he was a good example of what not to be. And Nethys sees everything, and intervened here, and it probably wasn't because He really likes explosions, but because He really likes Civilization -


- she's racing away down a single thread of possibility and she doesn't have time for that. She has less than six more minutes. Less than six minutes to become a Keeper become Carissa, figure out what she wants and what she has to do to get it.

 

Your world and your god go to war, whose side are you on?

 

 

 

Well, who's the winning side?

 

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At the beginning, had she dared to look at Keltham and think the thought 'does this change Asmodeus's inevitable victory? since it obviously does, how do I in fact feel about Asmodeus's inevitable victory?' she could have won the war for Civilization. 

She didn't, because she was not the kind of person who had thoughts like that. She was the kind of person who smiled at him and took his hand and delivered him to the church and lied instinctively, impulsively, before she had any concept of alter-Cheliax, because she knew in her heart that the Hell they were all condemned to must not be looked at, must not be closely contemplated.

She does not like that person, that person who is her, that person who she feels she is looking at for the first time. She does not see any excuses for that person - or she sees them, but they're all weak, pathetic, insubstantial, the excuses you make for someone you dare not try to hold to the only standard that actually matters. Almost anyone more idealistic than her would have been maledicted long ago, sure. But someone with her same values, but slightly more awareness of them - slightly more ability to stop and catch fire when everything changed -

- that person could have done it, and so there's no excuse for not doing it, there's nothing sympathetic in it, there is not even the excuse that she was irretrievably condemned to Hell because she wasn't, there's no points for having required what in hindsight was plainly the combined Splendour of many of the most powerful people in Cheliax pointed at the task of carefully manipulating her -

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IRORI? I KNOW YOU CAN'T ANSWER ME, BUT LISTEN UP. 

   

I AM PLANNING TO SELL MY SOUL FOR ALL THE PROJECT LAWFUL STUDENT SOULS AND A LOT OF WISHES AND A VERY FANCY HEADBAND SO I CAN OVERTHROW ASMODEUS AND TAKE HIS PLACE AND DO HIS JOB BETTER THAN HIM. 

   

PLEASE DON'T GET IN MY WAY. 

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It's taken Arbas well over a candlemark – prodding Carissa's half-dreaming mind, over and over, Asmodeus, Asmodeus, what next– 

 

 

He's even more confused than when he started, and this is not the usual result of spending a full candlemark tracing down one of the most key, formative concepts in a person's history.

But there's so much to Carissa. It's beautiful. So much courage! so much ambition! so much desperate drive to understand and be stronger.... He's seen plenty of ambitious people, they're unusually likely to end up arrested for treason – as is, in fact, currently being demonstrated, because whatever she was trying to pull here, Carissa was clearly not quite good enough to pull it off. But - most of the minds he's broken down into their component pieces to sort through were so much - smaller, pettier.

He could lose himself for weeks just understanding exactly what went into that final realization and decision. Which is in, in fact, relevant, he has in his briefing packet that it's what prompted Carissa to erase her own memory (with a spell she could have cast on Altarrin, but claims she didn't) and then end up here. And it's - almost certainly, though this is more of an inference - related to why Altarrin so quickly trusted her.

(He can't actually do that right now. For one, it's obvious that Carissa, at the end, was much smarter than she is right now, and obviously part of that is being under a mountain of compulsions and prevented from waking up fully, but he suspects a lot has to do with the 'headband' she left behind, that she was so agonizingly reluctant to remove. Anyway, it means that he cannot, actually, fully follow all of her reasoning, or totally make sense of the memories of conversations even when the words are still lodged in her mind.) 

 

....And the important question, of course, is whether it was just that. (Which seems slightly more plausible now! Because, wow, learning of such an impressive-looking and so clearly justified heresy against a god who deserved it does seem like the sort of thing to prompt a principled man, and Altarrin is certainly that, into holding up to the light some heretical thoughts of his own. Fortunately, Arbas has never claimed to be a principled man, and doubts he's vulnerable on that axis of manipulation.) 

In the scenarios where it wasn't just that, he can't assume he'll find the true answer in Carissa's own memories of that night, which she would obviously have modified before putting herself in front of the Emperor without a shield against Thoughtsensing. To find that answer, he has to look further, deeper, into who and what Carissa is. Maybe she could hide that from most people with a few artifacts of Modify Memory, but not from him. 

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...Also, what a religion, seriously. He would not have thought there would be a demand for 'Anathei of the Purifying Flame, except incredibly evil' but apparently. 

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- focus, he's on a deadline here. What next...?

 

 

:Keltham. How did it start: 

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Her memories of Keltham are so twisted around the end - his horror, his anger, his careful prodding leading towards increasing certainty - that it takes a while to guide her back to the beginning. He'd been oddly dressed, and spoken strangely, even once Tongues gave her his language. He'd been cheered at the prospects of - mutually beneficial trade. He'd been attracted to her. You didn't make it long, in her role, without knowing how to notice that, manage it -

Maillol had asked her, does he want you? and she'd without a flicker of heretical dismay noticed that, if he did want her, that is what she would be, for the rest of her life - she'd worked very hard to be too valuable to casually dispose of but there were precious few people too valuable for Keltham to casually dispose of, if Cheliax could triumph far enough to make him notice that he wanted to -

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Carissa is pretty sure that getting heartbroken is a thing that can only happen to you if you make the mistake of caring about other people or at least about what other people think of you, and that dath ilan didn't suggest the obvious solution of 'don't care about other people or expect them to care about you' because they're Good. She suspects, though, that this is an unsexy thing to say. 

"We're young," she says. "And we're playing games with very high stakes, such that this isn't, by comparison; I wonder if the warning seems more necessary, in a world where it's not true of everything you do that it might hurt much worse than you expected. But I'd rather live in this world than in yours, just like you would, and I'd rather have you than not, even though I might get hurt, on any given occasion, and almost definitely will get hurt, looking out ahead over all of them."

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....kind of a lot of the most salient and important-feeling Keltham related memories are about talking him into violent sex, after that, actually. And math lectures. Lots of math lectures in there too. 

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And then there's the end, embedded very deeply into her memory, where he tried to figure out where she really was and she tried to prevent it and failed. She admired him more than ever, in a way, watching him actually think about a question that really mattered. Of course, it was a question she didn't want him to think about.

He left. He didn't take her with him. She'd been hoping that he would, which is why it wasn't her decision.


He left and she realized alone in her bed that he'd given up on the world and was ready to destroy it - it's what prompted her ridiculous final plan -

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One starts to get the sense that Carissa Sevar has really been living a very interesting life for the last while. 

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One DOES start to get that sense!!!! 

 

What an interesting relationship. Violent sex and math, who would have thought that was such a hot combination? Arbas is pretty sure he's missing a lot of the dath ilan context, here, largely because forcibly-asleep, forcibly-stupider Carissa cannot actually fully unpack those thoughts where he can see them. 

He'll get there. 

 

 

He can see more and more why Altarrin liked this person. It would honestly not even be that surprising if she were the first person Altarrin, who has never been known to fall for anyone, fell in love with. 

- which doesn't mean that she isn't dangerous. Might be evidence that she is dangerous, seems like that would be Altarrin's type.

(He's done Altarrin's loyalty checks, before. Not this, but with enough practice, you get good at inferring the parts you can't see from the parts you can. Though Carissa is incredibly outside his experience and he's probably going to have to see all of it before she stops surprising him. This is a delightful thought.) 

 

He should move on soon - it's been another candlemark - he should look at some of the more recent points that he hasn't been warned off directly reading Carissa on when she's in no shape to control her thoughts, because she knows hazardous secrets that the gods mustn't learn. Which is an incredibly rude restriction for Bastran to place on him, but it's not like he wants the gods to destroy the Empire either, and - well. Loyalty to Bastran. He takes it seriously even when it's inconvenient for him; that's sort of what loyalty means. 

 

...He can't resist poking one more thing, though. 

:Abrogail?: 

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Tortured her to death. It's a very vivid memory. Not to threaten her with Hell, either - Carissa wasn't scared of Hell - to turn her into a statue, so that her consciousness would cease, and she'd be denied Hell. That being, of course, by far the main thing that Carissa Sevar has ever been afraid of. 

She was very slow about it; it was a game. Carissa didn't catch on; she'd been mind-controlled not to. 

 

Abrogail woke her later, and pet her hair, and told her she was special, and Carissa is in love, though she could give an entirely accurate accounting of how much Abrogail cares about her and how purely every interaction they've had was calculated manipulation.

 

Abrogail is the most attractive woman in the universe - well, the universe that has Abrogail in it, which isn't this one - and all memories of Carissa's point this fact out very loudly. 

 

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How intriguing. 

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As many as several aspects of this are informative! But not, really, for the decision he now has less than a candlemark left to make. What does he still need? 

 

...not specifics, for one it's very inconveniently hard to steer for those while Carissa is in this state, and for another she could have modified any specific memory, and also it's - not, actually, the shape of answer he's looking for, here?

 

He has Rosha push her further under for a couple of minutes, so they'll be starting fresh, he doesn't want the trails of association in her dreaming-mind still linking so closely to Keltham and Abrogail. 

- he'll ask Rosha to keep her a little deeper under, actually, if he can pick up clear thoughts he might step on something he's not supposed to find out - and what he wants here is her emotional affect toward Altarrin, more than her schemes. 

 

:Altarrin:

and he pushes with wordless half-questions - does she love him? hate him? coolly appreciate him as an ally and resource? something else entirely? does she have regrets?  

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She's too foggy for the specific details to come through. But.

 

 

- he was going to make her immortal.

 

She took a ten percent chance of final death in this universe to save him.

 

And none of this would ever have happened if she'd been less - internally injured, flinchy, stupid, defensive, needy -

 

These are not the strongest romantic emotions about anyone which you'll find prodding through Carissa Sevar's head but they are very real and, in fact, very intense.

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He was going to WHAT you can DO that–

 

- probably this is not a path he should be prodding down. Maybe it's not even very remarkable or hard, when you combine Carissa's magic with Altarrin's skill. 

 

But - interesting.

Carissa isn't deceiving him - she can't, she doesn't even know he's there or that she's in a room having all of the secrets ripped out of her head, she's lost in incoherent dreams of her past - and...she loves Altarrin, even if not centrally in a romantic way. 

(Which seems - sort of correct, as a way for someone to feel about Altarrin. He's not someone you romance, he's someone you ally with to save the Empire.) 

Doesn't mean she isn't fooling all of them about other things, doesn't mean she wasn't laying the groundwork to take over the Empire. But he's pretty sure it means something. 

 

 

...he's nearly out of time but how about Carissa's feelings toward the Emperor? Are there any flickers there of intended betrayal? 

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More complicated. The Emperor's - 

- most people aren't very good at what they do, right, not very careful and don't believe true things and don't have good judgment and can't notice if they're making mistakes -

 

- she'd be fine with her life being in Altarrin's hands, because there is no way he'd fail to find a way to use her. But the Emperor -

- she's seen good signs. She hasn't seen enough to really think he'll be better than mortals, just generally, are, and that's not very good.

 

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She's...disappointed in the Emperor? Thinks he isn't very good at being Emperor? It's hard for Arbas to track much of the reasoning behind that feeling, given Carissa's state.

 

Sigh. He has to make a call on retrieving her things - the Emperor won't want to cut it too close, more out of general paranoia that worries about specific interference - and it's not coming together very coherently yet. 

Who is Carissa, and would the person who Carissa is lay a trap on the dead man's switch she set up to (she claims) discourage the gods from preventing her being captured alive? It won't get her out, at this point - getting Altarrin out is likely to be a strong motivation, but it won't help with that either, it'd be - revenge, a motivation shaped like "if you coerce me into this, you regret it." 

 

He's known people who worked like that. 

He's very sure, actually, that Carissa Sevar isn't one of them. And apart from that it's stupid. 

 

:Keep her in natural sleep: he tells Rosha, and heads off to contact the Emperor and then find a sufficiently distanced and secure Work Room to attempt this.

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He gets the Emperor's somewhat uneasy signoff. Bastran spends longer considering whether it's a good idea for Carissa's magic items to end up in the facility where, after all, she also is - but she surrendered without giving any resistance, the usual techniques seem to be working fine, and he'll arrange for someone who isn't Arbas to hide the items just in case Carissa (without spells or magic items!) can somehow mind-control him into telling her anything. 

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Arbas will do the Gate, on the principle that he barely got enough off semi-conscious Carissa to target it at all, and trying to convey sense-impressions to non-Mindspeakers is both tiring and lossy. He's grumpy about this; he's not a strong mage and it's going to exhaust him. Oh well. Carissa can (non-consensually) nap while he does. They took her Ring of Sustenance, after all, she needs a normal amount of sleep now. 

 

He raises the Gate. The other Adepts can take care of figuring out how to conceal their passage from the city below while they figure out how to extract items from the extradimensional space. (Why do Carissa's extradimensional spaces always come with ropes attached? It's so odd and specific!) 

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This is also an excellent opportunity to study it in detail! 

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The Rope Trick is not rigged to hurt anyone who comes near it. It has the artifact - Velgarth magic, an incredibly impressive bit of workmanship - on the rope, and then it has stacks and stacks of diagrams that seem to be step by step instructions for ...something, and then it has her magic sack that's bigger on the inside. In that she left her mirror, her headband, her Hat of Disguise, several half-finished projects she was mostly doing for stress relief, and her Ring of Sustenance, plus a note, evidently written by copying words out of other texts she'd been reading, declaring that in the event of her death she wills all her possessions to the Archmage-General Altarrin.

Also there's a little nest of sleeping baby mice, for some reason. They're hungry.

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....Weird? Maybe concerning? Carissa has shapeshifting, are the mice...shapeshifted people? prisoners?? 

They would toss them out of the Rope Trick except what if they're involuntarily transformed important courtiers or something. The Emperor would be so upset.

 

They will take everything out of the extradimensional space and spend some time poking at the magic, but they're not selected for being mage-researchers and it might be dangerous. They head back. They can hide Carissa's things while Arbas takes a nap. 

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Carissa will wake up (six candlemarks later, not that she has any way of knowing this) in a surprisingly comfortable bed, with a soft blanket over her. She can't move. She can't do magic. 

There are still a lot of corners where her thoughts stumble off a cliff and die - anything to do with escaping, anything to do with violence or sabotage, anything to do with her magic, anything to do with deception, anything to do with trying to make her interrogators like her or be sympathetic to her. There's some sort of wider-scoped block on...long term goals, maybe, it feels possible to think about past and it feels possible to think about the the next five minutes but tomorrow might as well not exist. 

But, other than that, the basic mental motions of reasoning and planning are allowed. 

 

She is not, currently, compulsioned to be loyal to the Emperor or the Empire. (Arbas doesn't like keeping those compulsions in place during interrogations, even the reworded versions. How are you supposed to see all of someone's heretical thoughts if you're banning them???) 

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There's a man watching her. He looks young - early thirties, if that - and his ethnicity is hard to place but doesn't quite match the standard she's seen at court. He's leaning back in a comfortable-looking chair, idly playing with what looks like her headband. 

 

:You know: he sends lazily, :for all that you were kind of an awful girlfriend, and I'd rather not bet the Emperor's future happiness on you having learned anything about treating your lovers well, I'm still quite sure that Keltham never deserved you.:

 

Mindspeech conveys a lot of overtones, and he's not bothering to hide any of his. He thinks she's hot. He's intensely curious about her, in a way uncomfortably akin to how a child might be curious what would happen if they pulled all of a spider's legs off. He's confident and he's enjoying himself. 

He's also still reading her mind, not very subtly at all. 

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And he can mess with her memory and presently wants her to know it, because she doesn't in fact remember any interrogation and evidently a lot of it has already happened. 

Carissa's plan is -

- okay, invisible thought pit there. 

Smarter Carissa's plan was - yep, that's allowed. Smarter Carissa thought that she should just plan to withhold nothing, to spin nothing, to achieve nothing. She should go directly to whatever emotional state they wanted to bring her to, and stay there. Smarter Carissa thought it was important this not take too long, and defiance wouldn't work but might delay. Smarter Carissa worried that a sufficiently stubborn Carissa in an empire calibrated for...less torture than Cheliax...might in fact take weeks to break, weeks that she couldn't afford. And of course you can't make plans for an interrogation that are dependent on how long it's been - one policy on every occasion you can remember you had a policy. The policy is, be entirely malleable; figure out where they want you, and be it. 

 

It's fairly distracting feeling him read her mind. Normally you know it's happening but you don't experience it licking the inside of your head like that. 

She's going to lean into that, obviously, because the state this awakening is most likely intended to induce is one of feeling - violated. She could instead maintain her composure, easily, at this level of provocation, but that's just making him work harder at what he can still have, and that wasn't smarter Carissa's plan. (It's pretty obvious how he might want to modify her compulsions, which of course are not catching this as 'trying to please the interrogator' only because she's referring it back through 'obey smarter-Carissa', and smarter-Carissa was concerned with getting this over with as fast as possible.)

Lean into it. He has had of her anything he wants, and she can't remember it; he is prodding through her thoughts, amused by them; he has watched her memories of being loved and of being fucked, or made her recite them, or made her reenact them, and for all she knows he's had sex with her, it's not as if she would remember and it's not as if he'd have to fear the Emperor's wrath with respect to anything she couldn't remember to report. He is inside her head, presumably enjoying this. If this isn't the state he wants her in, then at any indication of his displeasure she'll go somewhere else.

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(Arbas is delighted. What an interesting strategy! Is that a mental trick she learned in dath ilan - it's so clever - he'll have to let her do that again at some later point, there are versions that might actually work rather well at getting him answers, but - not now.) 

 

He blocks 'routing plans through her imaginary version of Smarter Carissa.' It's tricky to figure out; it takes an entire thirty seconds. And it's not a complete thought-pit; her thoughts will trip over a rope, not be snapped off at the root. 

 

:Tell me about what you were angling for, on the afternoon you appeared in Altarrin's study: 

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She....wasn't. She'd just arrived. She had no context on where she was or what was going on, and she had the hypothesis from Keltham that from your own subjective perspective irrecoverable breaks in consciousness ought to produce waking up somewhere else but that didn't give you anything actionable about what to expect once you got there.

She took a gaseous form and was planning to escape through a crack in a door or something, figure out what in the world was going on, but Altarrin without any apparent effort dragged her gaseous form to the ground and then snapped the spell in on her, which was a spectacularly painful and aggressive way of dispelling it (obviously accidental, though she wasn't sure at the time). She knelt at his feet and repeated 'I am here by accident, my lord' in a language she knew he didn't speak while the room filled with his guards. 

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They have all of this from Altarrin's side of things but Altarrin was, honestly, a lot more impaired by being trapped and incapacitated and having recently nearly died than Carissa Sevar seems to be. (Not surprising, in a way, she's worked with such high stakes. Maybe once the Queen of your evil country has tortured you to death and turned you into a statue and this was somehow flirting then nothing else comes close to that.)

 

He'll get her side of it too, going through one thing at a time. He's going to linger on the part where she considered praying to (her world's) gods, and why she chose the ones she did: Iomedae, Irori, Abadar.  

(He keeps reading her mind, but less obtrusively, he doesn't want to actually disrupt her focus and her current level of cooperation is - fine.) 

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Iomedae, because Iomedae would, one, know if Asmodeus existed around here, two, be a useful ally in overthrowing him if he did, and three, leans interventionist enough to potentially command  - 

- thought pit. Fine.

It takes her a bit of confused swimming around in her head to get back to the question. Irori. He'd laid some kind of claim on her at home, Keltham had when speculating wildly said 'secret cleric' but she's not sure if that's actually even close. But He'd prevented her from selling her soul. She'd just told Him to leave her alone but He was probably paying her extra attention so unusually likely to hear her (and of course, unusually likely to not help, because He's Irori, but still). 

Abadar. Very into making interplanetary contact be mutually beneficial and involve trade instead of conquest and slavery and enormous deception plots etcetera etcetera. Unlike the other two, he's not an ascended human, so He's older and more powerful and there are more planets where praying to Him would've worked. 

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He takes careful notes on that. And then they can move on, going over the afternoon in exhaustive detail. This part is, perhaps, slightly less interesting, but it's going well, and toying with Carissa to amuse himself won't get them through the boring stuff faster

- he's curious about her reaction to the history books, he'll spend longer on that. 

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She'd been trying to check if they'd faked them, since it's what Cheliax did to Keltham. It was sort of stupid to use methods that would have thwarted the specific thing Cheliax did but wouldn't thwart many other extremely workable methods like having lied about which country she was in or what year it was, or petrified her for five years or directly modified her judgment so she couldn't tell that the books were unconvincing, but the randomization strategy would mean that even with a mindreader they couldn't anticipate what she would check next and prepare it for extra plausibility. 

It was less a considered use of her resources to track down a plausible avenue of manipulation and more - a reflex, after what she'd done when she'd been in the Empire's place. Of course the obvious difference between situations was that Cheliax had to play nice with Keltham and the Empire in no way had to play nice with Carissa, but she didn't know what kind of agreements they were party to or what constraints they were unobservably under.

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He makes no comment on this. He's not giving away much of his reactions to her at all, though.

 

- next part that's of interest to him is what she was thinking when Altarrin had her summoned to his chambers, and over their supper, and then once he brought her into his shielded bedroom. With particular attention to whether she, at any point in that sequence, did start angling for something in particular, and if so - what? 

(And what did she think of Altarrin, at the time? What emotional affect did she have toward him? He's not asking her explicitly about that but he's reading her thoughts very closely.) 

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Well, she wasn't an idiot, right. There was a very obvious explanation, which was that Altarrin wanted to sleep with his attractive new prisoner, as probably an overwhelming majority of men in his position would. She was obviously not going to resist him. 

She didn't want it to happen, she was scared, she's embarrassed because she's not usually that weak but the Project had -- well, Elias Abarco had - she really doesn't want to think about this right now-

 

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- he's not going to press now. It's - useful background, he's sure it's going to fit into the rest somehow, and he'll poke in then, when it's fun - but right now it'll just derail covering the facts, which he needs to get through. 

What happened next? 

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Dinner was confusing. In Cheliax he would have been toying with her, testing if she was able to keep up, hurting her to watch her try to find her balance again. He didn't, particularly. He just deflected to a conversation about magic items, and then to - flattery -

she remembers thinking that it was injurious to her pride, to have to pretend to believe in flattery that blatant, to be taken to bed by someone that straightforward and small and weak, she hoped there was more to him, she hoped he deserved to have what he'd happened to stumble into...

His demeanor changed when they were alone. He explained they'd been observed, that the game was necessary to make her not-very-interesting to the watching court. He wanted to ask what she thought of the books. 

 

He explained they didn't have afterlives here. 


Obviously Carissa, who is only, like, 90% a purely selfish person, was horrified. She didn't know immediately how to fix it. She told him that it probably wasn't impossible but she didn't know how.

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:At which point I am assuming Altarrin almost immediately proposed an alliance of some kind? We have that from his side. I want to know what you were thinking, and your read - at the time, not looking back with what you know now - on him and what he wanted: 

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Human memory isn't actually that good. She doesn't have her headband. She doesn't really know. She could piece something together but it'd be - halfway made up, like every story mortals tell themselves. 

Altarrin wasn't a possible ally to her yet, is her best guess. He had possession of her, had power and guards and the ability to put whatever orders he wanted in her mind, she would obey him because that was the path to survival, but it's ....really not the path to allyhood. 


She bloody well assumed he wanted her to invent some afterlives because you'd have to be insane not to want that.

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There are a number of directions he could take this. Sticking to chronological order, getting all of that down, events and facts and thoughts before going into interpretation, would be the standard interrogation style. 

That's boring. And he - suspects missing the key point, here. 

 

He leans back. :I have been informed: he says dryly, :that you and Altarrin managed to stumble onto some secrets the gods shouldn't know. Having learned about your adventures in Cheliax before arriving here, I can't say I'm entirely surprised. So we're going to skip to the morning. You come back under minimal compulsions and wearing a Thoughtsensing talisman, which is extremely uncharacteristic for Altarrin to offer to any lover, let alone after a day. How do you explain that:

A slight, amused smile. :Are you going to claim to be just that good in bed? From what I hear that's never worked on Altarrin before: 

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Altarrin never fucked her and she feels sad and bitter about it though she's aware this is stupid. 

 

He didn't want word getting out that she was from another world. She needed the talisman for that, at least until she got better at shielding. They thought they could pass it off with a trade for one of her magic items; there'd be some gossip, but much less than the risk if the wrong person mindread the wrong thing from her. 

She obviously had no way of knowing if he had a backdoor to it, so she couldn't rely on it for assurance he wasn't reading her (or enabling Ellitrea, whatever), and probably related to that he never tried to persuade her that he wasn't. She's pretty sure now that he wasn't, that it was an offer of alliance on his end. She - didn't have the context to interpret it that way. In Cheliax that's not what it would've been, and in dath ilan such things would be spoken openly.

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:And what was he planning with you, exactly? Keep you disguised and making him magic items? I don't see how that leads to - afterlives: 

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He was probably half intending to flee the Empire with her once they'd used its resources to mine sufficient spellsilver, and half unable to intend that because of his compulsions and just desperately dragging resources into her reach in the hopes she'd stop being a petulant child and figure out what to do with them.


And she didn't, not in time, and it nearly got him killed.

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Well. Those are some interesting emotions, there. Grief, guilt, regret (peer deeper) the...desire to be set on fire...? Cheliax sure is a place. He might be tempted to oblige her except that Rosha would be irritated with him. 

 

He'll get back to the debatable treason on Altarrin's end of things later. :So you'd say Altarrin's near-death - and by implication his arrest - were your fault? What went wrong in your plan?: 

(and - subtle, this time, he doesn't want her realizing he's doing it - some lightning-fast temporary compulsions, to tug on those convenient emotions, he wants her just a little overwhelmed, not enough that she can't think coherently but enough that she's catastrophizing a little, leaning into self-flagellation - Cheliax seems to instill quite a lot of that in people -)

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- see, that's a very good question, but she in fact isn't sure she can meaningfully produce an interesting failure analysis while her brain doesn't work. Failure analyses are one of those things you need your brain for. Trying to do them with half a brain goes badly. 

 

Obviously Altarrin's near-death was caused by the gods. However, if Carissa had tried harder to do something about his - mood and exhaustion and apparently-uncharacteristic behavior - and most blatantly, if she'd given him the Detect Thoughts medallion she gave Merda - she had been planning to make one for him, but he'd been away in the south - 

- it would've been harder for the gods to corner and murder Altarrin-but-also-he's-a-short-range-Thoughtsenser. He'd have caught the traitors, just like that, and been fine. If she'd actually been prioritizing his safety she could've had him with fire resistance on top of that, and at-will False Life to get himself functional again after an injury. She could have had all her attention and energy pointing at protecting him, but she was an idiot so she didn't.

(The yearning to be set on fire isn't particularly far beneath the surface, at this point.)

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What did Carissa think was going on with his mood and exhaustion? Did she think it wasn't a problem, or that he'd always been that way? Or just that it wasn't her problem? 

 

(His Mindspeech overtones are less confrontational, at this point, more just - disappointed. As though he had thought she was very clever and impressive, knowing what she'd done in Cheliax, but actually it sounds like in Golarion she's mostly been childish and self-absorbed.) 

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She thought maybe Good people were just like that. Sad and tired all the time, that is. She'd never really met any before and that's the - Chelish stereotype - that they spend all their time going around being miserable and never being able to enjoy anything -

Sometimes he'd ask her for an Owl's Wisdom, but that would make him more miserable. And he had - the ability to command her however he wanted - so she was thinking of it as his job, to tell her if he wanted something more than the magic items.

(She did cautiously try to offer herself to him, once, but that just made him angry. And then made him slouch back into sad and tired, and apologize for snapping at her, which was even worse than the anger.)

(She had contempt for him, for busying himself with so many pointless things, for hating his life so much when he had - safety - the only thing she could really comprehend wanting -)

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How to play this....

 

- lean back in his chair. Lazy smile. 

:It's not that I'm not sympathetic to that, you know. Altarrin always was a humorless bastard. But not a whiny bitch. You're accused of casting a despair spell on him. He even admits you cast something on him, and that he was sad afterward! Which, I've got to say, doesn't look good for you, and 'I thought he was always like that' isn't a good look either. Just when I'd almost started to get the impression you weren't stupid: 

 

(He's not doing anything additional to her mind, yet - he's watching, seeing where the ripples go, what makes sense to prod. Defiance, even anger, would be interesting, but she came in her with her ridiculous plan to be perfectly sweet and compliant, or something – he's got a feeling he's going to have to push her a lot harder, to see that.) 

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Yeah, she's - straightforward, resigned. That's what happened. It's not as if she can lie to him. She is mortal and therefore pathetic and stupid. Trying to think what the point would even be, of casting a despair spell on Altarrin, runs into the blocks both on planning and on thinking about how her magic works. 

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Worship of Asmodeus warps people in such interesting ways... 

 

He's going to have plenty of time, later, to question her with fewer or different restrictions in place. For now, to start, the main goal isn't to get her detailed reasoning; he's going to need the headband in place for that anyway. The main goal is to dig deeper into her goals and desires and convictions, because - 

- to simplify massively, there are two stories here. One where Carissa is, deeply and intrinsically, the kind of person who will, when she sees Asmodeus clearly, immediately conclude that he needs to be defeated and destroyed; who, when she lands in a new world, is horrified enough by its lack of afterlives to immediately offer her help despite being "90% a selfish person." The other story is that Carissa is - whatever shape lets her survive and be safe and get resources, and the person she was for Altarrin is not necessarily predictive of who she'll be if she loses Altarrin and has to find different allies. 

To some extent it's a matter of framing. He has evidence of both, and the question is more, which story better predicts what Carissa will do, if cleared of charges and allowed to operate freely in the Empire. ...Maybe. He isn't entirely sure that he understands enough of the complex tangled pieces of Carissa to know what questions they need answered, in order to decide whether, in practice, she would be an enemy to the Emperor and Empire. 

 

:I'm not sure why either: he sends, dryly. :But whether or not it's got 'despair' in the name, your Owl's Wisdom spell certainly seemed to cause it. You said yourself that he was unhappier after he'd asked you to cast it. And - you claim he had the ability to command you however he wanted, but he's not the one who sent you off to seduce the Emperor, so I don't actually believe you that you weren't steering here. The question is, what were you steering toward?: 

 

- and he's going to tweak the direction of her emotions with some brief subtle lightning-quick compulsions, now. Reinforce the memory of seeing Altarrin sad and depressed and working himself to death. Boost the regrets, the feeling of having been responsible for Altarrin's death, into a sense that she must have known on some level it was her fault. 

A reinforce the sense that she had agency, she's very clearly demonstrated that, she's an agency-having sort of person even if a childish and foolish one, and so if she wasn't aiming at getting Altarrin killed in a plausibly deniable way, what was she aiming at? 

 

He's not expecting to get anything coherent out of her but how does it make her feel

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- confusion. She did know the Owl's Wisdoms were making Altarrin sad, but -

- well, Owl's Wisdom is how you notice you were worshipping a torturegod and actually need to fight him, it's not guaranteed to cheer you up but it's - things you are better off knowing - 

- really she should've been using it on herself more often -

 

What was she aiming at? Why was she trying to make Altarrin work himself to death? That doesn't make any sense,  it doesn't - maybe if she'd thought he'd come back without his compulsions but she doesn't think she had that thought process, that would have entailed noticing they were at fault and she mostly didn't -

Was she bitter that he didn't want her, and trying to punish him for it? That doesn't make any sense either, it's - stupid and petty and - she doesn't think even at her worst she's petty like that -

Did she think that the Emperor would listen to her more if his most trusted advisor was out of the way? That would've made sense in six months or something - and she's actually pretty sure she never had any such thought, she wasn't scheming against the Emperor in any respect, that would've been stupid and dangerous, and she wasn't scheming against Altarrin in any respect for the same reason except - except apparently she was -

- probably the answer to this is that she's not smart enough anymore to know what she was doing -

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She is impressively good at noticing her own confusion and not letting herself land on faulty hypotheses, even like this. It's beautiful. 

 

Keep nudging toward regrets, toward that awful sinking feeling of realizing after the fact that she had been an idiot too busy caught up in her own petty needs to see the bigger picture... 

:When did you decide to seduce the Emperor?:  

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Talking with Deatta at the party, where she told Carissa to think about where she wanted to land when Altarrin got bored. And - she was such an idiot - she thought he was bored, because it felt like every time he saw her he'd prefer not to, because he spent almost all his time away being busy with things that mattered less than she did, because he didn't want her, because even the Ring of Sustenance which should have bought him an extra six hours a day didn't buy any interest in his part in being around her - and he was dropping ominous hints he might die -

 

- she was such an idiot, childish and stupid and awful and self-absorbed, she could have just asked him what was keeping him so busy, she could even have complained that it was less important than she was and he would have explained -

 

- she considered it likely he'd get bored. She knew she was in great danger without him. She's very powerful, very clever, whatever, but she's not a mage and so if she's without a protector any mage at all could slip new instructions inside her head and there's nothing she could do to protect herself. Someone would've done it, she doesn't think that specific assessment of her situation was insane. Someone would've been curious enough to waste ten minutes making her theirs, and then discover to their delight what they'd landed on. Conceivably it would in fact have been the Emperor's interrogator, he doesn't seem like the kind of person who assiduously avoids having a personal life. 

So, she needed a protector, and - well, the obvious first candidate is the Emperor, right. And he preferred men, but once she'd thought about it for twenty seconds that was actually an advantage. If you want an Emperor you need a very specific reason why this is going to work for you and not for the many other talented and well-resourced people that'd be trying, but she had a pretty good one. He's, what, forty, fifty, and without an heir, and she was the only person in the universe who could be a handsome man for him - or lots of different handsome men for him - and also bear him children. 

She researched whether he was dangerous to anger, obviously. And what tended to happen to those lovers he discarded. But it seemed - safe - she really believed that when he in fact became intrigued enough to order an interrogation he'd find the scheme to be much more focused on his interests and his empire than such schemes usually are -

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:You would have been a delightful prize: he agrees, absently; he's watching her other thoughts in depth. 

 

Push on regrets, again, but maybe a little less with the self-loathing internal monologue, it's starting to annoy him - he'll nudge Carissa's thoughts toward specifics, where wasn't she paranoid enough - no making excuses for herself, of course, but 'childish and awful' isn't an explanation, really it's more its own kind of excuse -  

:So - you thought you could sell the Emperor on it, and that you'd be safe. And yet here you are, so evidently you miscalculated. What did you miss?: 

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Well, she'd been imagining a generally-pleased Emperor, who'd gotten to know her a bit better, ordering her taken in so he could put his mind to rest about whether she was planning to steal his throne, and she isn't, or whether her schemes were against the interests of the Empire, and they aren't, or whether she'd been put up to this, and she hadn't, and she expected those answers to satisfy him.

Instead, this came to his attention in the form of a god-plot to kill her via having the Office of Inquiry slip up while arresting her, and so now the Emperor is doubting himself, fearing he's been mind-controlled, doesn't have Altarrin as a trusted advisor, and isn't in fact all that attached to her yet.

 

There's no prophecy at home. She's not used to divine interventions that are that - careful and sweeping. It's the main thing she should've been more paranoid about. Altarrin warned her, and she took the warning seriously, but she thought mostly in terms of not doing things that would have a huge footprint in Foresight, where making herself safe wouldn't necessarily if she wasn't planning to do a big rollout of arcane magic, and not leaving the safety of the Palace where divine interference was supposed to be limited, and obviously not praying to or inviting the attention of any gods. And that just wasn't enough; they play on a larger scale than that. If not for Altarrin their scheme would have worked and she'd be dead.

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- and how does she feel about that? Having gone around behind Altarrin's back to seduce another man, assuming he was bored, assuming he didn't care about her, and then knowing he risked his life just to warn her she was in danger? 

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She would like him to light her on fire about it, but no one does that around here. 

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:Not that it isn't tempting, but Rosha would think I was being unprofessional: 

 

Arbas rearranges himself on the chair, props his feet up on the footboard of Carissa's cot. 

 

:You're claiming this was a god-plot against you personally, when - like you just pointed out - you haven't even done anything important yet? You're claiming the gods were scared of you for, what, hanging around at court whining that Altarrin wouldn't sleep with you and making plans to turn yourself into a cute boy for the Emperor?: 

 

He lets his mindvoice leak doubt, derision, does she really think she's all that - 

- but at the same time, a feather-light compulsion, tugging on a memory: Carissa in Golarion, minutes before appearing in Altarrin's suite, telling the god who chose her to get out of her way - 

 

(Though he doesn't let up on the compulsions tugging her toward regret, self-doubt, all her mistakes made bare in the unforgiving light of hindsight. That's got to make an interesting emotional symphony, and he wants to hear it.) 

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- Altarrin thinks it was a god plot to kill her, and Altarrin would know -

 

(Altarrin)

 

- she - doesn't think she was - this weak and pathetic - with her headband on -

 

 

- she was, in fact, planning to become immortal and kill a god for power to make their own, so -

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YOU CAN DO THAT?????!!!!!!!!

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(- thaaaaaaaaat is almost certainly something he isn't supposed to know! And, unlike Carissa, he doesn't even in theory have the power to directly manipulate his own memories. Though with the right compulsions laid on himself he can get closer than you'd think, which has got to be part of why Bastran selected him for this duty. Most of the reason being that he's the best in the world at this, of course. ...He'll stop following that thread, now.)

 

How does she even know what Altarrin thought. They've barely spoken and he was under a lot of mind control. 

(And he'll gradually, subtly lighten up on pushing Carissa toward painful regret and self-loathing – he'll keep the tug toward a vague emotional affect that looking back her mistakes are so much clearer in hindsight, but it doesn't have to have that much self-criticism tied into it, honestly Carissa does enough of that with no nudging at all...) 

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The gradual release of pressure towards self-loathing means her emotional state is getting a bit wobblier, floating in a bunch of emotions that are no longer carefully pinned in place. 

 -it's hard to reconstruct her reasoning about the godplot while she's this much stupider but she was sure of it before and - 

- she stumbles into the smarter-Carissa block. 

She feels disoriented and angry and contemptuous and despairing and - 

- right. If it hadn't been a godplot to kill her, Altarrin had lots of other options. He could've just Gated back to the palace and walked up to calm everyone down, or returned after she was arrested and talked some sense into the Emperor; he wasn't under suspicion until he did the absurd Gate.

He did what he did because he would've been too late otherwise. That means she would've been dead. She doesn't know if someone in the Office of Inquiry specifically wanted her dead, or if it would've taken some small further coincidence, but Altarrin's belief was that she would die, and he would know. 

 

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He plays with her headband some more, where she can see it. 

 

:See, it's awfully out of character for Altarrin to risk his life and his position for a girl like that. For your magic, sure, but he's admitted that he could reinvent arcane wizardry himself in a couple of years, now that he's had over a month to watch you prepare spells and craft artifacts. Why risk so much just to save one dubiously loyal woman?: 

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They'd have to ask him, she thinks stubbornly. It's actually the first trace of trying-not-to-be-helpful, rooted in some combination of all these floating emotions and protectiveness of Altarrin.

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Stubbornness! How delightful! ...He could block it but he won't, yet, because he's curious, and that stubbornness is a new mind-state, one that will show him different corners - might even reinforce it the tiniest little bit, look at his pleased body language over here, he enjoys a bit of defiance in his prisoners...

 

- Carissa can't think about goals more than a few minutes in the future, can't think about plans more than a few minutes out, but he'll allow her a little more leeway to think about preferences, about liking some world-states more than others. 

 

:You owe him: he says. :Is that all it is, that it'd be embarrassing not to pay your debts? You know, some people would consider the debt paid after having healed him:

And - subtle nudge, bring that feeling of protectiveness a little closer to the surface - 

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It's - sort of that. It's that if they were Lawful gods who weren't doing Asmodeanism, he would see an opportunity to purchase something important for her at even a quite high cost to himself, and take it, and she'd repay him afterwards in full, because - that's just more efficient - it's not a finite debt, it's a principle that where they can attain something for the other, they'll just do that, and know they'll be repaid -

- they're not gods, but sometimes you can be close enough you'll still do better using the god-strategy than the human one, and that's what it is to be allied with Altarrin -

He all-but-said that if she gets executed, here, he'll fight the gods and eventually get her soul back. She'd do the same thing for him. 

- Keltham would have done that too, actually, she thinks it might be a significant part of what love is, aside from 'a bunch of cognitive distortions that make you an idiot', which is definitely also part of what love is.

 

And she doesn't think she repaid him in full, by healing him. She's barely sure it was in his interests at all.

 

The stubbornness is now quietly warring with the instructions she left herself to be cooperative. That means even when betraying Altarrin, she tells herself.

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Fascinating - it's incredible to see so much idealism mixed in with so much, well, Cheliax. He's tempted to poke it but he almost certainly won't get anything coherent while Carissa doesn't have the headband. 

- it's important to understand what she means by 'Lawful', he thinks, and definitely important to understand more of dath ilan. Again, that can wait for later. 

 

Nudge toward doubt, again, though not self-loathing. :Why did you do it, then, if you weren't sure it was in his interests? Was it one of those, what was it, love-related cognitive distortions? Because I don't think Altarrin would appreciate that: 

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She was going to have difficulty running away and lying low, with her compulsions. She..thought she could've done it. The Empire would be looking for her. The Office of Inquiry had told the Emperor she was working for Asmodeus. They would have tried quite hard to find her and kill her. The gods were helping them.

It's hard to recall the exact reasoning without her headband, but the results she knows like she knows her name. It was her life at stake. She thought they had maybe a forty percent chance of success, at figuring out how to track her before she got Altarrin back which would have taken months.

She thought if she saved Altarrin then she'd more or less committed herself to surrendering - Altarrin knew a lot about how her magic worked - and that the odds were unacceptably high the Emperor would either kill her during the Altarrin operation or order her executed once she'd surrendered. But not forty percent. 

So it wasn't for Altarrin at all, really. Just the safest path smarter-Carissa could see. She's pretty sure Altarrin knows and understands that.

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He doesn't try to chase the very-quiet-tucked-away thought or wonder what it means because, you know, sure seems like something he probably isn't supposed to know. 

(For all that he loves to collect secrets, Arbas is quite good at deciding not to be curious. It's another job requirement. One that irritates him more than loyalty to Bastran, maybe, but even so it's not like there's anywhere else he could go and expect to learn more secrets, and so this is the direction in which he's pruned his mind. He's good at that, too.) 

 

The rest is interesting too. And - she's right, probably, that Altarrin would know and understand and even appreciate that. He didn't, after all, risk his life for Carissa just so that she could be stupid

 

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He'll keep going for candlemarks, right up until the point when it's getting hard to hide the reaction-headache from pushing his Thoughtsensing and Mindspeech harder than they like to be pushed.

He prods at her feelings on the Emperor, suggests various directions for her mind to try on for size: is she angry with him? Contemptuous? Disappointed? Judgmental? How does he compare to Keltham? To Abrogail? 

And he pokes at her feelings about everyone else involved in this little drama. Ellitrea? Ketar? Merda? Altarrin's previous girl, who gave her the advice that led her in the direction of seducing the Emperor? Do any other names or faces rise to salience? 

He wants her regrets and her self-doubt and her despair and her contempt and her confusion, and to go over the events of the last six weeks through all of those lens. He's building a timeline in his head, and taking cryptic shorthand notes, but he doesn't ask questions going in chronological order. Keep her off-balance, keep her cycling between disorienting emotional swings - encourage her thoughts that she's pathetic without the headband, once she catches on that he's doing it to her it's going to get harder (and he's looking forward to that, too, watching her reason around distortions is so intriguing, but not just yet.) 

 

Mostly he keeps to specifics, but throughout, when he has a chance, he'll tug any thought-fragment about the Empire a little further into the light – subtly, not so that she would notice the interference (yet), but he wants to know what she thinks of the Empire that her spell seems to have left Altarrin so oddly negative on. 

And he keeps it in the background for now, he doesn't want her aware she's thinking of it, but he's on alert for any comparisons that come to mind, between where she finds herself now and Cheliax. Or dath ilan. 

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Carissa is well-behaved. Her job is to believe whatever they want and say whatever they want; hopefully they possess the sense to have made sure that this gets them closer to the truth rather than farther from it, and hopefully the truth is something that will make the Emperor want her alive. 

She likes the Emperor. Not enough to be comfortable trusting him with her life, but that's a very high bar. And it's not that she's seen things that inspire distrust, just - you can't start out trusting people. Her plan was to seduce him and marry him and have his support and protection with her projects which did definitely potentially include executing a lot of people as part of becoming a lich. Probably there are better options but it's one she wanted to have the leverage for. She wanted real power, but she wouldn't have worked against him for it; that'd be stupidly dangerous, and also just plain stupid. 

She wouldn't have gone after Abrogail, because that would've been stupid. It speaks well of the Emperor that he managed to have a reputation for being safe to be ambitious around as long as you weren't trying to betray him. 

She does miss how the things Keltham wanted from her were - well, real. Real pain, real suffering, real power, real surrender. ...Keltham may have been misled about how real they were, but for Carissa it was important that they were real. The thing the Emperor wants from her is a game, and it's a game she genuinely enjoyed, a game she was happy to engage in, but - well, fundamentally elaborate make-believe. And it's easier, when you have a lot of doubt in your own judgment and competence and are pretty sure you deserve several centuries of torture, to give yourself to someone who'll appreciate the opportunity to hurt you than to someone who wants you to have all the answers.

She is smarter than the Emperor. She doesn't mean it in a judgmental way, it's just a fact that she's the smartest person on this planet though Altarrin would beat her out with a headband, even with a weaker headband than her own. She's very low on context and not competent enough to compensate but on any problem where she knows to focus her attention and has the puzzle pieces, there's no one better. She does feel fairly willing, when not compulsioned to do otherwise, to rely on her judgment rather than the Emperor's. She understands the justifications for chains of command and doesn't resent being compulsioned to obey someone stupider than her.  

 

Altarrin's Thoughtsensers were a threat to be managed but only because she held Altarrin's secrets; other than that, she liked them. Merda gave good sensible advice and if she's been executed for her part in this whole mess, which seems quite likely now that it's brought to her attention, Carissa in fact feels like shit about that. She didn't consider herself close with any of them. She was actually quite plainly very lonely, before she started seducing the Emperor. 

 

The Empire seems fine to her. She doesn't object to wars of conquest. She doesn't object to mind control. She doesn't object to slavery (though it does seem ridiculous to her to claim that the Empire doesn't have it, given how many people there are in a position to get away with compulsions wherever they want to). The Empire does not really seem at all different from Cheliax to her except in the obvious respects - less torture because there's no god of it, less Law because there's no god of it, compulsions saving a lot of effort that'd otherwise be spent terrorizing and coercing people.  It's not dath ilan, it would definitely appall everyone in dath ilan, but as she told Altarrin, she prefers it to dath ilan, because she doesn't like Good. 

Altarrin had been baffled that she would prefer a world where he had power over her and could hurt her to one where he couldn't. She couldn't think how to explain it to him, and so of course he missed the degree to which it was a - compliment, a Carissa-shaped bid to be allies -

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Arbas can keep up nearly seven candlemarks straight of this, by which point it's very late and Carissa, having recently lost her Ring of Sustenance and then having spent all of her recent waking hours being forced to go over conversations and memories and past thoughts she is no longer quite smart enough to hold in her mind, is probably exhausted. (Healing-enforced 'sleep' is less restful than ordinary sleep, too.) 

He doesn't try to hide that he's enjoying himself. Or that he's toying with her – though it comes across clearly that he's not exactly toying with how much suffering she can endure. He's delighted when she recalls times she was clever, times she was ambitious, times she made elaborate plans, times those plans succeeded as well as when they failed. For the most part he seems to already know quite a lot about the plans she made and the actions she took, at various points; when he digs, it's for what she was thinking and, to an even greater extent, what she was feeling. 

When he's done, he'll tell her politely to be good, and have Rosha get her some food and water. He has a report to write up for the Emperor. 

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Meanwhile, back in the Office of Inquiry's secret secure facility, Altarrin is still available for further questioning. 

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He will find himself returned to a more comfortable cell, and with the most extreme escape-prevention compulsions loosened! There's still lots of other escape-prevention compulsions, but not the heaviest-duty ones.

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(Junior Inquisitor Restra is not in charge of these decisions, which trade the security of the empire off against the comfort of one man, a decision which, when phrased that way, is obviously not a tradeoff worth making.)

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(There are other ways to phrase it.)

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And Junior Inquisitor Restra will continue her interrogation!

(It seems reasonably clear to her at this point that, absent a bombshell, Altarrin will be released; the Emperor has decided to rehabilitate him, rather than to have him killed. She knows that Carissa Sevar has been arrested successfully and handed over to the Emperor's personal interrogator, rather than the Inquisition; the Inquisition is, naturally, jealous - the Emperor's personal interrogator not being an inquisitor is one of the signs he might be going to disband the entire Inquisition and replace it with a new, more loyal force - but Restra's main annoyance is coming from the fact that this means she isn't getting regular uncensored reports that she could compare and contrast with Altarrin's to wring more information out of Altarrin before she has to give him up. From Restra's perspective, complicated court politics are taking place, and she hopes the Emperor is making the right decision, but it's not actually her job to try to figure out if he is.)

Restra has assembled a list of points to follow up on, but first she's mostly just - going over everything again, to see if his answers line up with the ones he gave before he talked to the Emperor. She might get the time she needs to finish this properly, and going over the same question multiple times is very important both because people make more mistakes when under stress, and because places where people's answers change are the most interesting ones to look into.

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(She will get a censored report, if not until the next day; it includes quite a lot of previously-unknown details on Carissa's magic and Carissa's side of various Altarrin decisions.) 

Arbas WISHES Bastran was ever going to disband the Office of Inquiry

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Altarrin can think a little more coherently with the tightest and thus most intensely volition-affecting of the anti-escape compulsions off. He doesn't seem to react much to the nicer room; when he's not being questioned, he's withdrawn and spends most of his time sleeping or staring into space. During interrogation sessions, he's mostly composed; it's obvious that he startles easily, but he doesn't break down in tears again. 

(He doesn't know for sure that Carissa was captured alive, but he suspects this would all look very different if she were dead.) 

 

His answers remain fairly consistent, even on the points that he's consistently caveated heavily with the fact that he doesn't remember it exactly and didn't take or doesn't have his notes. If questioned on the matter of the 'Owl's Wisdom', he will admit that it made him doubt not only his past decisions, but whether some of the institutions and structures of the Empire were ever a good idea. He will expand on these doubts if asked, and delve into trying to explain some apparently-dath-ilan-sourced concept of "coordination", and how organizing everything using compulsions instead cuts that off, and encourages the sort of cutthroat court politics that result in so many Emperors dying by assassination anyway. He has various other musings, more or less coherent. He doesn't seem especially reluctant to criticize the Empire, if it's foregrounded in ways of fixing it. 

 

 

He's still definitely being evasive on some questions. The Emperor had a compulsion put on him not to reveal a few specific 'state secrets', and that compulsion overrules the generic truthfulness one, but he's probably being evasive on some other questions as well. 

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Well, once she's gone over everything else a few times, she will just go to the straightforward "what do you think I most want to know" and "what do you least want to tell me" questions.

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He doesn't know what she most wants to know because that depends on what she knows already and context on their goals right now that he doesn't have. (They can probably get more helpful answers out of him than that but they'll have to work for it.) 

 

There are definitely things he didn't want to tell her and didn't want her to ask, though! She can get those! They're not state secrets and arguably the Office of Inquiry has a right to know and should know about this type of potential threat and he has no way to resist the truthfulness compulsion. 

 

...Carissa dispelled his compulsions. Without asking him, because she correctly inferred he wouldn't be able to consent to it and would have to stop her. He had her on standard prisoner compulsions at the time (no planning to escape or harm anyone or sabotage anything) but not the standard loyalty ones, which are established to not work very well anyway if someone is lacking context on the Empire as badly as Carissa still was at the time. She apparently construed this as helping him with a problem, not harming him or sabotaging anything important. 

She took out half his talismans too (he thinks by accident) and he reflexively Gated them out to a secure supply cache, clearly via the same reflex that got him out after the mine assassination. He demanded an explanation. They talked. He still can't explain most of that it's a state secret he's specifically compelled not to talk about. 

He can admit - painfully, with a lot of friction against his current loyalty compulsions and anti-escape compulsions - that they had discussed immediately fleeing the Empire entirely. 

They didn't, obviously. They came back. It's kind of clear in Altarrin's manner that he's unsure whether this was a huge mistake. 

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AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

... Right.

She's going to want to ask - insofar as she can - what the main considerations were on his decision to not flee the Empire; which things pointed in which directions.

She also wants a discussion of the unknown magic-nullifying powers. 

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Well, he was feeling pretty doomy about the Empire and the ability to do anything new or interesting using the existing systems! And - he still can't talk about their plan - but he thinks that, while it's in the Empire's long-term interest for it to succeed, carrying out all of it from within the Empire would be a nightmare. Given that he feels like it's been well established by now that even Jacona is not actually safe from godplots. 

(He's actually a little less down on the Empire now than he was that one night. He's remembering to be impressed by the competence and dedication of people like Kastil and Restra, however inconvenient it might be for his goals right now.) 

However, the Empire offered security and infrastructure and resources, and his established position there meant he would be able to open a spellsilver mine promptly. It was a place Carissa felt she could learn to navigate.

And it is, like it or not, his Empire. He...felt some reluctance to just walk away, entirely separate from strategic elements and even without loyalty compulsions. 

 

 

 

Golarion has a generic wizard spell that can nullify existing magic, up to a certain power level, in a way that's oddly non-destructive (she was appalled by the "aggressive" way he snipped her spell when he captured her) but also non-targeted. It's not nearly strong enough to take out, say, Work Room shields, given how it only took out half of his far lower power personal talismans. Compulsions are very very low-power by Golarion standards, though. 

It's stupidly visible to mage-sight. 

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Restra is glad to hear about the mage-sight, and follows the logic of this.

She'll dig a bit more into the things she's allowed to dig about, but before long the day's interrogation is over, and she needs to write up another daily report for Beatta to turn into a daily report for the Emperor.

She is, in fact, pessimistic that Altarrin is loyal to the Empire. She thinks he's loyal to something else which the Empire is a potentially useful asset to achieve, and suspects that his interests can only be pointed at the Empire via compulsions, loyalty-checks, and incentive alignment, and does not actually know if the Emperor plans to do this, has been subverted by him into aiming the Empire at his goal, plans to release Altarrin to do whatever he feels like, or is just totally deluding himself.

* (Incentive alignment is, of course, a translation of a word which the sage Arvad introduced into the language that became the Imperial standard.)

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And Beatta will turn this into a report that says that he does not seem to be a mind controlled servant of Carissa nor less aligned than the typical Imperial minister, but that his former limitless devotion and energy may have begun to slacken. It includes all the content from Restra's report, of course, just packaged in a slightly less... overtly aggressive... way.

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The Emperor will receive Beatta's report over communication-spell at his next scheduled check-in – he initiates them, to avoid anyone getting information on his location by trying to target him with the spell – which is before he goes to bed. It's brief, and laden with so much to read between the lines. It leaves him...sad, and thoughtful, and not really able to disagree with anything concrete. 

 

The next morning, while Carissa is still asleep, Bastran sits in a secure office an undisclosed number of miles away, and reads Mage-Officer Arbas’ far more detailed written report.

(The communication-spell isn’t perfectly secure, not used over distances like these, and the report is long and detailed. He collected it by Gate from a small private Work Room that doesn’t even connect directly to the main facility; you can take the normal stairs to the surface and walk to the other entrance, which none of his personnel are authorized to do, or short-range Gate there. Even Arbas isn’t authorized to enter, just to drop letters by Gate for the Emperor to pick up.)

 

He…thinks it’s good news. He thinks everything that happened since yesterday was good news? Well, except the fact that the Office of Inquiry found out about the Dispel Magic on Altarrin’s compulsions and his ensuing treasonous thoughts. Not that Bastran didn’t have a large number of questions of his own, about that, but it’s still inconvenient that the Inquisition are the ones asking them.

Not his problem, right now. Focus on Carissa.

Arbas has, as usually, been meticulously professional in his report. Altarrin presumably trained him to do this because an unprofessional report by Arbas would be deeply uncomfortable to read, but here, actually, he wants the personal side too. …

He reaches out with the communication-spell. They’re using a long-range version that, while not theoretically proof against interception, still makes it impossible for an interceptor to trace the location of either conversation party more precisely than a fifty-mile radius. (Come to think of it, the original 500-year-old treatise proving that no known communication-spell is perfectly secure or undetectable was almost certainly written by an Altarrin – so Altarrin could intercept and overhear them, probably, if he wanted to and also weren’t in an Office of Inquiry secure cell right now, but Bastran doubts anyone else could; less than fifty people in the Empire know this variant, they’re all compulsioned not to share it, and nearly all of them are military generals and not scholars.)

Anyway, they’ll use that and also speak in Low Haighlei, which Arbas learned at his mother’s knee, and Bastran learned because he’s good at languages and it’s not that hard to learn when you were tutored from infancy in a dozen languages including Court Haighlei, but which almost certainly no one else in the Empire knows unless someone has somehow nabbed Arbas’ elderly mother for this operation.

<What do you think of her? …Don’t say she’s hot, I know that> 

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Arbas, sitting back in a chair in the office he claimed for himself, laughs. <I like her. I see why Altarrin likes her, too. She’s terrifying> 

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Bastran blinks. <I have no idea if you’re trying to reassure me or the opposite> 

 

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Arbas spins Carissa’s headband around on his finger. It’s an excellent fidget toy.

<Neither. That's your job. I don’t think I know which way to lean, yet. She’d make an incredible ally and a terrifying enemy.> 

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Sigh. <All right, fine. It's not your job to give me a final answer, and you're not sure yet anyway. But can you at least give me probabilities here?> 

 

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Arbas rolls his eyes. 

<You know I'm not the numbers type. ...She's Altarrin's ally. More his ally than loyal to him, if you know what I mean - not that I'm sure what I mean - and I think that's new, I think something changed and it's inconveniently tangled up with all those secrets you said I'm not to go poking at. I don't understand exactly where she's getting it, I don't think she does right now, it's - something she thought up with the headband that makes her smart and she's sticking to it. Really sticking to it, though. She thought this lovely line - that if she dies he'll fight the gods for her soul, and if he dies she'll do the same for him, and really that's what love is - except for how love is when a person makes you stupid, that's also what love is. Isn't that pretty? Someone should put it in a poem> 

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So Carissa loves Altarrin. And it's...fairly obvious, when you look at the man's actions and also realize that sleeping with someone is, for someone like Altarrin, probably not even very correlated with loving them - when you look at it that way, it's obvious that Altarrin loves her, and probably has for quite a lot longer. 

 

It is completely unreasonable to want this badly for Altarrin and Carissa to get to be safe and free and okay and happy, and also be this pointlessly jealous that he wasn't good enough for Caris to ever feel that way about him. Altarrin is the immortal mage who founded the Empire. Obviously he doesn't measure up.

Bastran isn't gritting his teeth, but only because it gives him headaches when he does that and so he trained himself out of the habit. 

 

<Yes, all right. And?> 

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<Well, the bad news is that she's not loyal the the Empire and she's not loyal to you. She thinks the Empire is as well run as you can expect, that it's a convenient source of resources when it's not trying to kill her, and that it's marginally less evil than Cheliax. She thinks you've done a good job of setting up the incentives for your people, and she seems to like you all right on a personal level but I've never met someone with such low standards so I can't say this is a ringing compliment. But if they were free to go, and Altarrin wanted to, she'd go with him.> 

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NOT gritting his teeth. He asked Arbas for his personal opinion and he deserves whatever he gets for that. 

<Would she - lie to me, try to harm me, try to harm the Empire - if it got her what she wanted?> 

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This time, there's a longer pause. 

 

<I'm....not sure. I think maybe not, there's - I don't understand what's there but it's something. I think it's something she got from dath ilan. From Keltham, who I have to say sounds about as petty and boring as a human being can be while coming from a civilization that fascinating though maybe being captured and deceived by Cheliax didn't show him at his best. It's really too bad we shouldn't get in contact with them because they might destroy the world. ...Even if not they might want to take over the Empire, I don't think we're - that Golarion word Carissa keeps thinking - I don't think we're Good enough for their tastes.> 

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NONE OF THAT WAS AN ANSWER TO HIS QUESTION and this conversation is terrible. 

 

<Find out. Whether she's lied to me - and whether she would lie to me, if she thought the stakes were high enough - I think that's the most important thing.> 

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Grin. <I'll do that!> 

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Carissa will wake up in bed with the Healer reading a book nearby. 

(Her compulsions are different again; she can actually move fine, this time, though if she mentally simulates heading toward the door she'll notice that she can't do that. But the tight restriction on planning and strategy and prediction are fully back in place.) 

 

Rosha glances over at her. :You're awake. I'm supposed to make sure you eat a good breakfast: Her Mindspeech feels noticeably different; there's a sense of strain to it, like she's yelling from another room to be heard, though the actual metaphorical 'volume' is normal. 

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Carissa is small and obedient and will eat breakfast if that is what she is supposed to do.

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She will also be instructed to use the chamber pot and wash her face and even comb her hair! And then back to the bed because there is not actually any other furniture aside from Rosha's stool and Arbas' comfortable armchair. (There are a lot of weird specific action-blocks on her; she can't will herself to move directly toward Rosha, even without intent to hurt her; but none of them get in the way of this routine.) 

 

Rosha Mindspeaks Arbas when she's ready. 

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He saunters in. He's still playing with her headband. 

 

:Well, this won't do. I need you able to think in full sentences, don't I, even if you're not very smart right now: 

He'll lighten the compulsions on predictions and on remembering past plans and strategies. He blocks Smarter Carissa-based novel reasoning, but tries not to block remembering thoughts she had before, and this time he'll let her have a planning-ahead horizon of, oh, a candlemark or so. Just to see if she uses it. 

 

And then they're going to dive back into her first interaction with Merda and Ketar, after Altarrin had brought her back with a Thoughtsensing amulet and ordered some of his people to brief her on court politics. It's the first non-Altarrin conversation she had once she had decided to be less small and start having goals. 

He wants to go through the whole encounter in detail, and he'll point out that Ketar was reading her mind and came away from the interaction rather...biased...toward her, and he'll nudge and instill her with a gut-level belief that Smarter Carissa must have been trying something on him - not lying, necessarily, but you can do so much just by shifting emphasis and salience...

And now, as they go through line by line, he'll poke and prod her on what she was angling for. 

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She was trying to pass the loyalty check while not revealing Altarrin's secrets. She wouldn't have been above doing that by flirting with Altarrin's Thoughtsenser but she...

- confused, disoriented -

- so it doesn't seem like she would've done that, because she wasn't sure yet whether Altarrin was possessive enough to potentially object. And she does remember on a later occasion squeezing Ketar's hand because it'd be useful to have him be protective of her, but she didn't do that their first interaction. Merda was there; Merda would have seen right through it.

- must have been trying something - 

- maybe she was trying to make him feel sorry for her. That would not have been hard. Maybe some of her very careful very Chelish obedience was calculated to win his pity. She doesn't remember doing that calculation, but then, she wouldn't. He was ready to feel sorry for her; it had clearly just crossed his mind for the first time that Altarrin's women might in some cases be unwilling. Or  - the stupid thing people do around here where they layer on some drinks and some subtle compulsions because they prize willingness so much -

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Arbas has some banter about how he's read Ketar's interrogation report and the boy was so ripe for manipulation, what an easy target, you'd be amazed someone could make it that long in the Empire and be so naive. But, you know, Thoughtsensers, can't do without them. He'll probably even be fine even after this scandal, just with a few more compulsions on him. 

 

And they'll move on and cover some other conversations, during which he keeps nudging the same angle, Carissa was probably manipulating the people around her and was clearly so successful at it -

- the conversation with Dianta, Altarrin's girl. What was Carissa angling for there

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- she thinks she was just - desperately lonely, crafting 22 hours a day, not that she doesn't like crafting but she'd also come off a month straight of doing almost nothing else before she got dropped here - with Altarrin off doing things that didn't matter -

- must have been manipulating people but towards what end, she didn't have a goal for that conversation. Well, presumably she wanted to figure out how to get Altarrin un-bored with her, without letting on that he was bored of her, or figure out what to expect if he stayed bored. That doesn't even count as being manipulative, it's too obvious.

- must have been -

...she thinks that actually she wasn't really being manipulative and she's letting her present mood color her interpretation of these interactions too much, it's so easy to rewrite history in your head, to let the truth squirrel off into the sand until the only story you know is the final one... Avaricia and Maillol both did it to her, after Asmodia died...and she should expect her cognition to be unusually unreliable right now. She asked the girl a couple of questions while trying not to let much on. That's it. 

 

(She's not suspicious; these are the habits of someone who thinks her own thoughts are often untrustworthy in this way, not someone who is trying to catch them at being manipulated.)

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She's so impressive. It's a joy to observe. 

 

- still, if he lets her keep doing that, his current strategy here is going to fail well before the point when it matters. 

 

He'll lazily acknowledge that of course getting information is useful in itself, isn't it, to distract her while he plunks a few more delicately targeted compulsions in place. 

 

(You can't fully compulsion someone out of metacognition, not really, not without making it impossible for them to think in a straight line at all. But different people have their own little mental loops for it. Most people's are much less robust than Carissa's, fail well before the point that he has them this impaired and distracted and scared - but he can block that loop of thought, the mental trigger of 'it's easy to rewrite history, don't' and 'notice your thoughts should be unusually unreliable right now, question them accordingly'.)

 

 

 

Move on, chronologically still - he'll go over her plan to seduce the Emperor but not pause or nudge her much there, he's satisfied himself already of that aspect of a Carissa. 

Altarrin came back late, one night, from the south. She was already working on her hat, right there in front of him, scheming to seduce another man. He was exhausted, injured. His recollection of it is that he was lonely and wanted to talk. But he wants Carissa's side of things, too. 

(He has a good sense now of her common emotional patterns, he can nudge at various ones - was she sympathetic, was she disappointed in him, was she contemptuous, was she annoyed, was she bored?) 

 

(He's not, here, nudging her on what end she was manipulating Altarrin toward. It's not right for the mood, and besides, even with heavy blocks on her thinking, Carissa would realize that something is off in her head if he pushes her emotional-level recollections of her past self that far off-model.) 

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She healed him, even though he didn't appreciate it when she touched her. She listened to him talk about the local gods, participating in comparing it to Asmodeanism. She thinks she still cared about him and was worried about him. (A few mental checks are attempted, and fail silently.)

She - tried to prod him about it, about how he seemed - so trapped - and he told her he'd arranged for 'bandits' to steal spellsilver, and said they could leave, but also became upset and withdrawn, and she had no idea what to make of that... it fit their pattern, where he wanted her to feel safe but didn't actually seem to appreciate any of the things she did with breathing room, where she wanted to understand him but didn't know what questions to ask, or how to interpret the answers she got.

And he was so miserable. Even though she was lonely she always felt relieved when he left because the weight of misery would leave with him.

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He'll say something casually derisive about how that was always Altarrin's problem, right - most competent man he's ever met, doesn't have the slightest idea how to have fun - but of course Carissa made that much worse, with her Owl's Wisdom, whether or not she meant to...


And then move on. Cover a few more conversations. 

- Altarrin's supposed death. What did Carissa think and feel, when she heard? 

(He's barely trying to nudge her emotions at all, now, but if it comes up naturally, he'll reinforce the direction of grief.) 

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She would be cautious, normally, to separate her feelings for him now, now that she knows what he was willing to do for her, from her feelings at the time, not to let herself lose details that don't fit her current self-concept.

Several mental gestures in that direction silently fail.

Of course she grieved. She was - less upset than Ellitrea, who told her - she had a date with the Emperor that evening, she was glad not all her eggs were in the one basket - but she would still have been - in emotional pain - though of course it wasn't as sad as - someone dying who wasn't going to come back -

 

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He is almost certainly not supposed to know - whatever that is - he caught a glimpse of it earlier but - 

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Moving on. Date with the Emperor, right... 

 

 

- actually, let's take a step back. She had already hooked up with the Emperor once - rather impressively efficient of her, wasn't it - but wasn't it Merda who set her up with that role? How did that conversation go? 

 

(- and this time, again, he's nudging her toward doubt about her own motives, and sliding in a sourceless emotional valence that of course she was angling for something, of course she was picking her words carefully - it'd be so easy, the woman wasn't even a Thoughtsenser -) 

 

(and let the echoes of real grief stay, lingering in the background) 

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Carissa is disoriented, at this point. 

She was, obviously, angling for something. She wanted the introduction to the Emperor.

- she agreed to make Merda the Detect Thoughts amulet. It made sense, that Merda wouldn't take a risk for anything less than that. She -


 She - didn't want to get Merda hurt - did she get Merda hurt, Merda is by far the most disposable of all the people caught up in this, she'd been thinking that she wasn't exposing Merda to any danger she wasn't taking on herself but she was - underestimating that danger, wasn't she -

 

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Well, Merda indeed isn't a Thoughtsenser. Ellitrea and Ketar were far more involved but they'll be fine. 

(He doesn't say anything false - and Merda is in fact alive, and as well as anyone can be in a palace dungeon cell now that the Office of Inquiry is basically done with her, she'll almost certainly be released back to her duties once the investigation is closed - but he doesn't think he has to do more than hint. Carissa is incredibly ready to believe that she got this woman - not a friend, but someone she liked - killed.) 

 

He doesn't give her any time to process. They're going to move on, to her first date with the Emperor. 

It was a brilliant performance, really, that she put on. Ketar even got to mindread her for some of it; Arbas has the privilege of having read those notes and they're highly entertaining, he was so discomfited. It's hardly the first time someone has remarked that Cheliax - and the operation with Keltham - prepared Carissa to be a highly gifted actress.  

Now he wants her full recounting of it. 

 

(He doesn't say in Mindspeech that he thinks she was lying, or even deliberately deceiving the Emperor via misleading technical truths. Doesn't even imply it very hard. But the threads are there, in her thoughts, still close to the surface from before, and he tugs them - she shouldn't have much of an avenue left to notice or question that tug - and he's got her distracted, in intense emotional distress, already thinking the worst of herself - under those conditions, faced with the implication that Smarter Carissa manipulated the Emperor toward her ends, what does her mind do...) 

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- Carissa's actually still substantially distracted worrying about Merda, now. She hasn't actually gotten anyone killed on a horrible planet where that makes you stop existing before! She - 

- Emperor - 

- she wants to ask but there's not even any point, it's not as if she could trust the answer -

- go where you're told, Carissa -

Emperor 

 

She volunteered some fairly absurd dath ilani formalizations of how to split gains from trade, to amuse the Emperor and make him curious, and then listened to the concert with him, and then went with him to his music nook and had sex with him. She -

 

 

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- sorry, she thinks when her thoughts have fallen off cliffs and left her blindly groping at a blank space in her own mind for what feels subjectively like a long time, can you - remind me of the question -

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:You seduced the Emperor while concealing your true identity. How did you manage to deceive him?: 

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- sinking, dizzy -

 

- I told him as soon as we were in private, she says, because that's reciting a thought she had before. I didn't lie and I told him as soon as we were in private. 

 

She's not actually sure, though. It feels very hard right now to be sure what happened and what she just imagined. No, it's not just that it feels very hard, it feels - not allowed -

 

- not allowed. Because this is an interrogation. But - but they -

- she'll give them wrong -

- if they don't know what actually happened then how -

-

- need to convince them -

 

- be good be obedient be safe that's what smarter Car-

 

 

You're lying to me, she manages, eventually, actually indignant, once she's routed around to it without falling into any pits. I'm confused because you're lying.

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He looks delighted. 

:You caught me! Here. Let's try that again:

And he'll undo the compulsions against bewaring overwriting the past with narratives and flagging her thoughts as unreliable, undo the compulsion pulling her toward an infinite pit of self-doubt, undo the vague sourceless sense that she was manipulating and deceiving everyone in her vicinity. Give her a little more wiggle room on generic planning-and-strategy; she probably needs it. 

:Take a minute. See if you can figure out what I did - it'll make it easier to put everything back: 

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The question was how she'd deceived the emperor, and that's a question to which she has a prepared answer she feels strongly about: she never lied to him, she made no representation that the implausibly handsome man in front of him was not the result of a scheme, the Emperor obviously knew that it was, and she told him everything as soon as they were in private. She'd probably had too little access to planning to give that answer, because it was definitely planning that produced it; she knew the Emperor'd look back on it, later, and she wanted him to see that she'd not been trying to deceive him. 

And then Arbas had - 

- oh, it's sort of the opposite of what dath ilan does to people. Dath ilan shows you how everything is entangled, which makes it hard to lie to yourself because the lies won't stay put and instead tug on all the related concepts, all the patterns that produce the world, and it makes you a heretic, that's one of the big problems the Project had to deal with. And she tries not to do that - she has been trying not to use any dath ilani techniques - but it's not as if the normal state of mortals is the farthest you can go on that spectrum - you can push people to be even less aware of whether what they're saying is true, even less able to notice if they're confused, build a puppet that just says what's prompted and can't even remember what it said last and check if it was completely different. 

 

 

He can make that of her, if he likes. She thinks the missing piece is probably something like a compulsion against considering whether things are true at all, because she regrettably has a lot of weird mental habits tied to that. If you just had her believe whatever was said to her most recently that'd work fine.

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:No, no, that isn't the goal at all. - The Emperor wanted to know if you'd lied to him. When I said you were allied with Altarrin, and without compulsions you'd neither be loyal to the Emperor nor the Empire. And I didn't think you had, but even if we're assuming maximum paranoia here, that you can rewrite memories and that includes your own, I don't think anyone can hide the person they are. Seemed informative to check how deep it goes, that you're fundamentally the sort of person who wouldn't have lied to him, and - congratulations? I am convinced you're a person who wouldn't have lied to him there, even if we could replay history a thousand times. Much easier problem now to figure out how to align your incentives in the future, knowing that: 

 

And he'll wait and see how she responds to that. 

(He's also looking at her with an expression that is not especially trying to conceal the fact that he finds this - or her, or her thoughts - incredibly hot.) 

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Well, see, now her brain is working so she's not going to believe things he says. 

 

(No, no, be obedient, go wherever they want to put you - believe whatever they want to tell you -)

 

Carissa feels like it really shouldn't be news to anyone that without compulsions she wouldn't be loyal to the Emperor or Empire. The good news is that they have compulsions and she's very temperamentally malleable and he is clearly competent to make her loyal. The...partial bad news from there is that that's not exactly what the Emperor wants, is it, not in a lover, the Emperor won't actually be pleased if Arbas figures out the hundred pieces of subtle mind control that would make Carissa his.

Good people are so annoying sometimes.

It is true that Carissa intends to be a Lawful god when she grows up and so she can give her word and mean it and abide by it, even if she's going to die of abiding by it. Foresight exists. If she'd be willing to break her word to avoid dying, the gods or someone else could arrange to put her in that situation. Once you see that you're a pattern across worlds, you've got to be a pattern that can be relied on. The pattern that lives the longest is one that can make promises, even promises that might cost her her life.

That's not why she didn't lie to the Emperor, though. That was just that she was planning to have a romance with him and it is, she has learned from recent experience, a bad idea to premise your romances on a lie.

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Arbas laughs. :Glad you learned something from that forest fire of a 'romance', if it can be called that. Though he is, as you say, absolutely incorrigibly Good and hs no idea how to have a good time. I told him you love Altarrin and I think he's a little tempted to set you two up together and then go mope about it, but unfortunately I'm not sure Altarrin is any better on the too-Good-to-function front:  

 

He settles back in his chair. :Anyway. We're going over all of that again, from the top. I'll even let you keep doing that whole fact-checking your thoughts thing, if you're not too irritating about it: 

And he'll keep Carissa busy, but this time he does in fact want her interpretations of what she was thinking, including questioning and caveating her own thoughts. He'll prod her relentlessly with questions of his own, sometimes clearly trying to provoke her, but aside from tightening up her forward-looking planning and strategy again, he directs her in explicit Mindspeech only. 

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She was thinking that the plan to seduce the Emperor required 1) good sex, which she was competent to offer him because it's an expertise she has actually been developing lately, 2) his liking and admiring her as a person - she didn't want him to think of her as mostly just an intriguing distraction, she wanted to eventually get him to the point where he liked discussing policy with her, like Altarrin did - and 3) revealing that she is a shapeshifter from another dimension in a way that doesn't get her immediately taken apart or dumped.

She was mostly focused on being smart, impressive, and intriguing, and on pulling off the sex angle, giving the Emperor exactly what he wanted, but she was committed to not lying to him, and to not going along too far with specific mistaken assumptions of his in a way he might remember later as her having lied to him. She would present herself to him as a mystery that obviously had a scheme behind it, and then reveal the scheme when they were in private.

 

Her worst case scenario was really that the Emperor would throw her in the dungeons to make magic items every waking moment for the rest of her life, which - it seemed to resentful bitter lonely Carissa - wasn't that much worse than her current deal. 

(She didn't think about how she might get Merda killed.)

(Does she in fact have reason to worry about that? Bastran is, if anything, too Good, and seems unlikely to have done that.)

(She's not going to ask. She likes Arbas quite a bit, at this point, and doesn't trust a single word he speaks into her head.)

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Yeah it's not really his job to reassure her. If he wants to threaten her and have her belief it, he'll just block all her reasoning processes again, conveniently he knows exactly which ones need to go, or he'll keep her in a semi-lucid dream state, or something. 

(Inconveniently Bastran is going to want her reassured sooner or later, and he pities whoever has to attempt that. ...maybe Altarrin could do it? Though Altarrin sounds like a mess right now, so sticking them in a room to try to reassure each other sounds like the blind leading the blind.) 

 

They go back and forth and sideways through Carissa's decisions of the last six weeks until he's out of reserves and has a headache again, which is almost nine candlemarks later, with a couple of meal breaks. He will in fact get around to checking very exhaustingly that she has no memory of meddling with anyone else's compulsions, or casting Charm Person, or making the artifact that could modify memories. (He tries not to poke anymore at the hazardous secrets, but is perhaps quietly considering whether ordering her to make such an artifact now is a way the Emperor could solve the problem with state secrets he shouldn't know.) 

 

Carissa can sleep if she's tired enough; they are not especially going to provide her with anything else to do. (They don't immobilize her again, though.) 

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She naps a little. Stretches a little, stands on one leg and then the other for a little; if they do this for months she doesn't want to lose all her muscle tone. (She thinks they haven't yet been doing this for months, but of course she doesn't really know. Her hair is the same length, her nails the same length, her ability to support her weight leaning against the wall is no different, but she doesn't know Healing can't achieve those results, and she has no reason to believe the quiet timid Healer isn't the real leader of the operation or at minimum involved to a far more substantial degree than reminding Carissa to eat. 

She doesn't even try to make scratches in her skin, or in the wall next to her bed, by which she could count occasions where she was lucid enough to do that. That's just inviting Arbas to mess with her.

 

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Eventually she's tired enough to sleep.

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And that night the Emperor reads through another long and detailed report, and prepares a summary of the first two days to send back to the Office of Inquiry so they can compare notes. 

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Here's a rough high-level timeline on 'Project Lawful', the government operation in Cheliax that managed to hold onto 'Keltham' supposedly of dath ilan for several months, though it seems that learning the science and reasoning methods of dath ilan caused several of the involved parties including, eventually, Carissa, to defect and deconvert from Asmodeanism. Further details to follow, they'll likely dedicate an entire day to this topic and especially to Carissa's decision to oppose Asmodeus. Right now his interrogator is fairly sold on this and does not think it's at all the sort of thing that could be faked by a Modify Memory, or see any conceivable reason why someone who hadn't rejected Asmodeus would...implant a fake memory of having done so? This seems, you know, nearly as dangerous as actually doing it? And has also still resulted in a Carissa who wants to defeat Asmodeus? 

 

 

Here's a more detailed overview of Carissa's point of view on landing unexpectedly in Altarrin's office and being captured, up through the point when she dispelled Altarrin's compulsions (plus half his magic items) and he Gated them to a supply cache. Relevantly, his interrogator's very firm sense is that Carissa arrived with minimal resources and - especially after Altarrin demonstrated his ability to violently rip apart her disguise spells - considered herself basically helpless and in over her head, and wasn't yet trying to angle for anything except not getting executed. 

She didn't start especially having goals or plans until Altarrin made it extremely clear that he demanded that of her. Arbas is quite sure that she didn't mind-control him, either. At the start she had far too little context to consider it safe to try anything, and by later on, she didn't see a reason to – except to make him in love with her, and Arbas is confident she didn't do that, given the sheer number of memories that consist of tediously moping about how Altarrin didn't want to touch her or spend time with her. She must not have been reading his mind, either (though she admitted that he let her do it on one early occasion) because she clearly didn't understand the man very well at all. Both of these threads are highly consistent through all of her thoughts, in a way that Arbas absolutely does not think could be undetectably faked with any feasible number of strategic five-minute blocks of memory modification. 

 

 

Here's a timeline of her plan to seduce the Emperor and the steps she took. It is expressed very, very clearly that, while obviously this was a Scheme, she had no intention of plotting against the Emperor – largely for pragmatic reasons, she expected it to be incredibly dangerous, but that's how it should be, right, it means they're doing their jobs right if people are afraid of being caught working against the Emperor and avoid it for that reason. Arbas is very confident of this. He used every trick in his repertoire to gauge whether Carissa might have just modified her memory of a few conversations in order to slip it past them, and he's sure she didn't. 

 

 

Here's a list of Carissa's various thoughts, feelings, and beliefs about the Empire and toward the Emperor. Some are certainly heretical, especially before her compulsions were placed. She even admits to musing on how to become Empress, but then in practically the same sentence she and Altarrin would consider abandoning the Empire entirely to conduct their plans somewhere a bit less...complicated. Arbas doesn't think she's likely to be an ongoing threat. She isn't going to be fundamentally loyal to the Empire - in general Carissa's fundamental loyalties are to Carissa - but it's not as though that's even very unusual. She'll submit to whatever compulsions they think are necessary to keep her incentives aligned; he suspects she'll consider it fair and reasonable, even. And she very much doesn't prefer that there stop being an Eastern Empire. She doesn't want to hurt Bastran, either, and Arbas thinks this isn't just for pragmatic reasons like 'she would die', but that Carissa, while certainly willing and able to be ruthless, genuinely has a preference not to hurt people if she doesn't need to in order to survive. 

 

 

...Speaking of that, here's an exploration of Carissa's loyalty toward Altarrin, which is is plausibly one of their most powerful levers over her. She considers herself to owe Altarrin her life, and in her own thoughts does a lot of - delegating her reasoning to him, because she expects him to know better. Altarrin may not be entirely loyal to the orthodoxy, but he isn't disloyal either; it's his life's work (it's a lot more than just one life's work, Arbas suspects, but he's not even really supposed to know that and absolutely isn't going to hint about it to the stupid Office of Inquiry) and he's not going to want anything to happen to it. Anyway, he suspects that reuniting Altarrin and Carissa will actually help them keep Carissa cooperative, and he's even more sure than he is about the Emperor that Carissa has not tried to deceive Altarrin. Debatable whether she modified his mind without his consent, dispelling the compulsions would certainly have been an act of treason if she were a subject of the Empire, but notably she wasn't conceiving herself at the time of being the Emperor's subject, and hasn't been able to even consider modifying Altarrin's compulsions since the stage at which her own loyalty compulsions were placed. Said compulsions were, it seems, instrumental in why she surrendered, despite the fact that it's obvious she would rather have fled the continent than remove the headband that makes her think better. (Which he's pretty sure is not otherwise mind-affecting, though it does appear that perhaps smarter subjects are more prone to coming up with clever heresies.)

 

 

Here are notes on the capabilities Carissa's magic, both her reports on it and his mage-guards' report on examining the extradimensional space. (The diagrams kept in it are not included, nor any schematics of her magic items under mage-sight. Carissa wanted to make some sort of Foresight-mediated deal with the gods not to sabotage her plan to surrender and be taken alive, and he's sticking to his side of it for now.)

Her mind-control magic really is very limited; she could theoretically charm people, for example, but it would only last a few candlemarks, and someone like Altarrin would absolutely have noticed when the effects wore off. The spell Suggestion is vaguely compulsion-like, but also lasts a matter of candlemarks and can't be pushed so far as to make the target do anything too uncharacteristic, and the casting is visible to mage-sight. (This is a major downside of all of Carissa's magic; she has a spell Nondetection, but even when she used it to conceal her very magical shapeshifting wig, or hide her air-form spell from mage-sight so she can sneak around invisibly slipping under doors, it doesn't conceal the signature of casting additional spells.) It's at all possible she could have used Suggestion on Merda, say, who doesn't have mage-sight and whom she spoke to in private about getting a gig that would put her in front of the Emperor. But it would be an uncharacteristic risk, and she would have needed to modify her own memory about it.

Carissa claims that Modify Memory isn't even a wizard spell, and Arbas believes her on that. She admits that she could have made an item of it, but given the length of time involved in item crafting, plus the fact that a single use of the spell would erase five minutes, basically makes it untenable that she could have crafted any such items and erased the memory of doing so. Arbas is less sure of this than he was that Carissa never deceived the Emperor; it's the sort of thing she might have done if her magic worked a little more conveniently; but he's really quite confident that she didn't. 

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Altarrin continues to submit to his own interrogation with calm resignation. He's still evasive when they let him get away with it, but this seems to be a deeply-instilled habit more than anything else, one he still automatically falls back on when he can't think well. He has, after all, spent decades in a role where he was the repository of many, many state secrets. 

His physical condition improves, though the Healers think he's still not really eating enough. He's still spending nearly all of the time that he's not being questioned asleep – or, often, waking from nightmares and having to spend a long time inefficiently calming himself down purely by internal motions because he can't get up and pace. As the days pass, though, he does seem more...together...in the interrogation sessions with Junior Inquisitor Restra. He keeps his composure, and if he's still depressed or despairing, he's now able to hide it. Restra can get quite a lot of detailed criticisms of the Empire's institutions, but he conveys them blandly. 

 

(Underneath, he genuinely does feel more hopeful. No one is telling him anything, of course, but even with extensive volition-affecting compulsions on his mind, he can manage to reason his way around them and through complicated chains eventually, and he's - pretty sure that the Emperor is satisfied by whatever he's learning from Carissa. Or else this would be looking different.) 

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Arbas continues to question Carissa about eight candlemarks a day, with some breaks in the middle for meals. He mostly lets her have metacognition and the ability to sanity-check her own memories and interpretations, though he warns her a few times that she's being tedious and can either stop on her own or he'll make her. 

(He also does another couple of sessions with her in a semi-lucid dream state, with metacognition blocked entirely but with minimal other steering, just to check her unguarded emotions against what he picked up from her when she was conscious.) 

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The Emperor makes another few reports. There are no suspicious accidents. 

 

He really wants to get back to court; keeping the investigation silo'd like this is the best way to protect Carissa from godplots and court plots (or godplots that route via court plots), but every additional day is costly for him, especially given that Arbas is occupied and unable to keep an eye on his ministers and advisors and the nobles at court. A week is probably too long to risk. 

 

On the morning of the fifth day, he speaks to Arbas via communication-spell in Low Haighlei, and asks how much more he needs to be sure. ...Not sure enough to release Carissa, yet, he wants to keep her in the security facility for her own protection until he's sufficiently scoped out what's happening in his court. But sure enough to let her prepare defensive spells, before he brings in more of his staff so he can delegate scrying and communications. 

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<Your Majesty, I'm as sure as I'm going to get while I can only talk to Dumb Carissa. Don't get me wrong, even Dumb Carissa is one of the more impressive people I've met, but I'm going to be missing things. She's got all these conclusions that she remembers thinking and doesn't remember why she thought 'cause she's too stupid now. I want a day to question her with the headband in place, and then I can let you know.

Pause. 

<She thinks she's the smartest person on the planet with the headband and I don't even think that's an exaggeration. - We should have her make Altarrin one as powerful as hers, the ones she was making for us before were practically toys compared to it. She thinks he'd be smarter than her, then, and I think he's the one we've got to count on to keep her in line. Heretic or not, I trust him further than I trust her, but she trusts him with everything so I reckon we can handle her that way.> 

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The Emperor rubs his forehead. He's so tired. 

<Use your judgement. If you can have a final answer by tonight, I'd appreciate it greatly.> 

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That morning, after Carissa's breakfast, Arbas arrives with a bounce in his step. He is, again, carrying her headband. (As usual for first thing in the morning, she still has the heavier reasoning-blocking compulsions in place.) 

 

:Carissa! I told the Emperor this morning that you've been a very good girl and good girls deserve treats. What do you think? How good have you been?: 

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- Carissa has been perfectly obedient and well-behaved on every occasion she can remember. That was her plan. 

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That is indeed approximately the only response allowed to Carissa under her current set of compulsions. He's going to need more than that, though. 

He undoes the compulsion against making predictions. Relaxes the bounds on generic planning, gives her a forward-looking horizon of - about a day, let's call it. (You can't be very precise with compulsions on planning time horizons, but he knows Carissa's mind very, very well at this point.)

...Unblocks reasoning based on Smarter Carissa, which shouldn't matter once she is smarter Carissa but it'd be embarrassing if it did. He'll see once she has it on what else is getting in the way. 

 

:Emperor wants more on dath ilan. I told him, I'm not going to get that from Dumb Carissa. So it's your lucky day! You're getting your headband back. I might even let you keep it if you behave: 

 

The anti-harm compulsions still don't let her approach someone on purpose. He casually tosses the headband onto the foot of her cot. 

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Oh. 

 

That does move her, emotionally, even though she's been mostly trying to not have wants even when it's not compulsioned in. It's a bad idea to have wants. It makes it extremely inexpensive for people to hurt you. 

There's no way to make herself someone who doesn't want the headband, though. 

She reaches for it, takes it, puts it on.

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It doesn't make her snap back to being dath ilani Carissa. She managed for quite a while to stay small while wearing an expensive headband. Knowing her mind is being read is very good for that. Having your mind read is like weeding a garden very very regularly; it lets you nip in the bud anything that isn't allowed.

It does make her - think more clearly, put more things together. Arbas would also be having to fake his own hair, and Rosta's, to fake how long it's been, and the way they're all three steadily paling from the absolute lack of light. It's not impossible, of course, but she'd bet against, which means she'd bet it's been a week, maybe two, which is a good sign because the sooner they get through this the better.

The headband is a good sign, too, though he's almost definitely toying with her about letting her keep it. Really Altarrin should've taken it from her the first day and just worn it himself from there, but Altarrin is as ever too Good. 

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Getting her back to dath ilani Carissa is not exactly Arbas' problem to solve, though presumably Altarrin is going to want it and be annoyed at the setback, he clearly tried very hard to get a Carissa who could keep up with him in her strategy and ambitions. Weird thing to want, but everyone's got their type. 

:Tell me about meeting Keltham, from the beginning. How long did it take to realize that his dath ilani mental training would be important, and not just his knowledge of their technologies? How did you feel about it, at the time?: His manner is calm, almost entirely professional. 

 

He wants the content here, of course, but more importantly he's looking for places where her thoughts fall into thought-pits or her reasoning checks silently fail. For this, unlike for almost any other interrogation he's ever done, he doesn't want that to be happening. Honestly, he suspects he might barely be smart enough to follow her full explanations even if she's making it entirely explicit. Maybe once they're sure it's safe he can convince the Emperor to let him have one of the fancy headbands too

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She read Keltham's mind the first day they met him, and that's when she knew that he was special, that there was something there which she wanted desperately, that he had the secrets to what she wanted to grow up to be. And then he lectured. The contents of the early lectures weren't heresy. They were just math. You could've taught the math in a Chelish way. But the dath ilani way was to cheerfully lie to the students, force them to notice when they were confused, demand they give wrong guesses, and it was itself enough to make a Chelish class very frightened and uneasy. The mental motion for going "that authority figure just said something that doesn't make any sense to me" isn't always a safe one to train. The math is also important in its own right; a cornerstone of dath ilanism is that reasoning has a correct answer, governed by math, and you will get the right answers if you're approximating the right math and if you aren't you'll only be right by luck.

 

She's still slipping into some invisible pits. A lot of them, at this point, around...maybe it's the prohibitions on trying to please Arbas? She keeps wanting to - tailor the explanation more, check if it's made any sense to him, because this is not the kind of thing where you deliver a lecture to people from another world with no context and don't even check if it's landing with them, if they're following along, if they're getting what they valued.

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Huh

 

Well, he is in fact having some trouble following! Particularly the math. He's very smart, and he knows it, but like he said to the Emperor, he's never been so much a numbers person. Numbers are for logistics and engineering projects, which are boring. This is the first time anyone has ever tried to convince him that math was important for understanding a person, and he's captivated and also - yeah, perhaps struggling slightly to keep up.

And it's a relatively safer compulsion to relax – definitely a better idea than relaxing the bounds on Carissa plotting her escape. Who knows, it might even be fun. 

He'll undo it and ask her to re-explain the part about it being a key cornerstone of dath ilanism that reasoning has correct answer and you'll get there if you're following the right rules of math. 

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Smarter Carissa immediately notices the absence of the compulsion. For however long it's been, Arbas has been in her head, criticizing her, complimenting her, flirting with her, just forcing her to be aware of this power he has over her, and her thoughts haven't been able to reach back, to model him and predict him and think about how to keep him happy - no anticipating him, just being his -

- and it's very obvious why you'd do that, of course, but it means that this feels like being in the room with a person, about whom she can engage the parts of her brain for thinking about people, for the first time. It feels much more like he's present.

Smarter Carissa is harder to distract, more likely to just flicker rapidly between a couple different lines of reasoning. Another explanation of the idea that reasoning has correct answers, that for everything you believe there should be a price you'd bet at and people who are good at reasoning will make more money on their bets.

And a different thread of thought contemplating Arbas.

She likes him. She leans maybe eighty twenty towards the explanation that she has been induced to like him with mind control. There's obvious reasons you'd make her like and trust and feel incorrectly safe in the presence of her interrogator, he clearly has the skill to do it, it'd amuse him, it's the likeliest explanation. It's not a necessary explanation, because people tend to some degree to like their interrogators anyway, out of the desperate desire for companionship or the inability to correct for the fact that all the friendliness is feigned or just out of some innate impulse to like those who have power over them, to make it chafe a little less. And because Arbas is talented and has power over her and is hurting her (not even that much, but more than anyone has done on this stupid planet) and Carissa knows herself to be susceptible to that.

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Well! That's...not entirely unanticipated, but it's certainly intriguing! 

 

(He didn't particularly use mind control to make her like him! Certainly not to make her feel safe in his presence, it's really weird actually that she feels that way, Arbas is not at all used to people feeling that way about him after he's spent days taking them apart and playing with the pieces!

He does like her, though. It's hard not to, especially when it feels a little like he's finally getting one over Altarrin. It's been obvious for a while that Carissa is his, and that's not going to change in a week with the techniques he's actually approved to use, but Altarrin, after all, doesn't know his Carissa nearly this well.) 

 

He is, however, in fact mostly trying to be professional about this. And he doesn't have any cached flirting scripts for the situation where a prisoner is explaining why you should make bets on your beliefs, aside from inane lines like 'I can see why Altarrin liked you', and most of his brain is occupied actually trying to follow what she's thinking. 

Well. If Carissa decides to flirt then it's not actually being unprofessional on his end of things. 

 

He wants some examples of how this style of reasoning simultaneously helps you refine spellsilver and also makes you a heretic (he has that note from both Ellitrea and Altarrin's interrogations and it's come up less explicitly in Carissa's own thinking.) Also he'd like some examples of the - risks? Potential downsides? Did anything disastrous happen with any of the other Project Lawful girls, for example. 

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Yeah Peranza betrayed the Project to Iomedae even knowing this would get her eternally tortured. At the time Carissa was baffled but now she - isn't, actually. If you go Lawful Good hard enough that's just the correct trade. 

Being better at making predictions about the world and not getting stuck on your favorite theories and being curious when you get confusing data helps you refine spellsilver because it makes it possible to learn lots more information from failures of your spellsilver refining efforts. You aren't just checking 'did I get spellsilver or not', you're trying to distinguish between properly realized explanations of which elements of the process do what, and why, and so a failure doesn't just teach you 'that didn't work' but 'the eggshells and lime are not substitutable with this other substance we thought had the same chemical property; we were wrong that those substances were similar', or that something else went wrong that produced a result that looked like that, and you can figure out how likely each of those explanations is and how to cheaply check.

It makes you a heretic because - okay, say you have some goal. Like, uh, killing a god, hypothetically. If you're a normal person, and you're loyal to the Empire, you're going to think 'well, the Empire is the only center of technology and learning that the gods don't interfere with, so I should serve the Empire and that will help with figuring out the things we need to learn to kill a god'. And this might be true! It's a reasonable theory of what you should do! But if you're reasoning in the style that Carissa learned, those are all just premises you hold with some medium degree of certainty, and you have to know how much you would bet against 'the gods are not threatened by the Empire and have wrestled it into a corner where it doesn't threaten their interests'. And Carissa considers that quite unlikely, but, you know, that means she'd bet at 3:1 against it, and that's ....being a heretic.... in places like the Empire or like Cheliax. 

(She hopes she's not being terribly mean to Arbas, explaining why he's logically obliged to be a heretic like this. He did ask.)

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Arbas seems completely unperturbed by logical explanations of why he is obliged to be a heretic! 

(He doesn't really keep his loyalty in a place that is especially affects by 'facts' or 'what's true.' Fundamentally, he's loyal to Bastran because serving the Emperor gets him everything he wants, and Bastran is pretty easy and convenient to serve, and he likes the man enough that he would be very irritated at anyone trying to pull a coup. He's loyal to the Empire because...well, because it's there, more or less, and who knows maybe there's a better place somewhere but he's comfy here. Maybe it would be different if he wanted to murder a god, that definitely sounds like the sort of high-stakes calculated reasoning that makes Altarrin such a bore, but – well, he'd kill a god if someone handed him a god-killing weapon, that sounds exciting, but in the meantime he's not going to go giving up things he enjoys in order to try to build god-killing weapons himself. Personally he doesn't feel like the Empire runs off people having faith in it, anyway, not the way that gods apparently rely on that.) 

 

He'd like to hear more about her relationship with Keltham. Both the parts that were scripted for the benefit of the Conspiracy and the parts that...weren't...if there were any. How does dath ilani reasoning fit into courtship, it must be fascinating. 

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Well, it made him harder to lie to. But more than that - Keltham was in a sense desperately lonely. He wanted to teach ilanism, she suspects, because he wanted to not be alone in the world, to not have the burden of being the only person who could reason about it with the processes he trusted to mostly arrive at truth. He wanted them to pick it up from him quickly and then to work with him the way some dath ilani would work with each other, in a situation like this, so that the sheer magnitude of the whole task wouldn't fall on his shoulders. 

- there's a thing about using this reasoning style when no one else does. It really does feel like there's no one who you can trust, no one who will on their own arrive at the right answer except by random chance. She found it annoying when Keltham was condescending and here in this world she noticed herself doing the exact same thing. It's not actually an art designed for using alone on a hostile planet. The best way to connect with Keltham would have been to learn how to reason well enough that he didn't expect her to miss things he could catch, more than vice versa, that he believed she was competent in the way his civilization measured it. 

She didn't quite achieve that? Partially because she was trying to lie to him so to the extent she actually was surpassing him at reasoning about his surroundings she mostly didn't point it out, just directed it at shoring up the bits of the illusion it was suddenly clear he might see through. Partially because - well, she's not actually Lawful Good. She liked Keltham. She doesn't like dath ilan. She is angry with them, for their attitude about destroying Creation because of Hell. It's not a necessary implication of the logic, of course, it's a matter of values - but values are a funny thing in humans, and Keltham didn't describe the destroying-ugly-worlds inclination as a thing where dath ilani disagreed with each other, and it felt like at least some pieces of what she'd been taught were maybe trying to shape her in a direction that even non-Asmodean Carissa rejects being shaped. Plus she was still Asmodean, so she had to fit all the pieces into a worldview that really did not fit them very naturally. 

Keltham loved her anyway. He was - sincerely diligent about trying to figure out what was good for her and how to give it to her, in a way that didn't rub her wrong as irritating Goodness, in a way she would never have thought to ask for. He appreciated her, prized her, made no clever-strategic-moves to diminish her value or make her unaware of it so it was easier for him to lay claim to it, he would literally never have done that. 

She understands why a person looking through her memories wouldn't like Keltham but she did. Does, except obviously as soon as she got here she started trimming away at those feelings because it's a bad idea to do seduction operations while having attachment to her ex. The plan was to love Bastran, just as sincerely and as uncomplicatedly as a Carissa is capable of. 

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Yeah, no, he's got to say Keltham didn't come out looking very impressive in Carissa's memories, but - he's not surprised she liked him at the time, given how Cheliax gives everyone appalling low standards. And he does sound kind of sweet - just, you know, a kid. From a civilization that teaches even its kids to be powerful in ways that he's not sure anyone in Velgarth knows how to teach at all, but still. 

 

...He's curious what she doesn't like about dath ilan. They know rather little about it as a civilization, separate from Altarrin's bizarre and untestable theory that they've driven their existing gods away from any avenue of influence and are now concealing a project to make a nicer god? But presumably Keltham said a little more about what his life was like, there, and Arbas wants whatever anecdotes and snippets she has. 

And he's curious what direction it felt like she was being shaped in that even - the person she became after she disavowed Asmodeus - would still want to reject. 

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It was a very impressive civilization. She can show him, in memories now hazy because they're her memories of Keltham showing his memories, the skyscrapers and the space travel and the enormous docks and the container ships and the stores and the events and the fabrics...

 


She isn't sure how they were shaping her. If she'd been sure she could've rejected it more selectively. But - it seemed like dath ilani valued a smaller share of things than Carissa did, that they found wrongs more unbearable, that they had more trouble being malleable in ways Carissa genuinely values being malleable -

- they'd definitely overthrow the Empire, if he hasn't figured that out by now, unless Carissa and Altarrin contacted them conditional-on-their-not-intervening-except-through-voluntary-assistance -

- she's not sure if they'd destroy this world, probably depends on how fixable it is and on how, precisely, dead souls cease to be -

 

She'd feel better if she knew for sure that a Carissa born in dath ilan still considers arbitrary suffering better than death and thinks it's not worth annihilating a person who wants to live for the benefit of one who wants to die. It's possible that's true and there just aren't any Carissae born in dath ilan. But it's also possible that dath ilan is shaping peoples' values around situations like that; it's not as if civilizations don't shape the values of the people who grow up in them. And she does not want to give dath ilan power over her until she knows.

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Yeah, no, they've absolutely guessed that dath ilan would want to overthrow the Empire. Which he figures Altarrin might even be fine with, if it were done bloodlessly – which is doable to the extent that one civilization has overwhelming power over another – and if whatever took its place was - better, along the dimensions Altarrin cares about - but it seems dubious whether that would be the case, and certainly Altarrin wouldn't be inclined to take any chances on the destruction of the world. Assuming it were possible even in principle to find and contact dath ilan, which Altarrin is apparently doubtful of. 

 

...He has a question and he's not, actually, sure how to put it, because much of his confusion here is coming from his understanding of Altarrin, and he's read the man's mind but never really explored it, not in the depth he has with Carissa, so he hopes she'll forgive the vagueness. Altarrin...respects dath ilan, was curious about dath ilan, it seems likely that Carissa's exposure to dath ilani reasoning is a huge piece of what made her seem so irreplaceably special to him. And yet Altarrin seems to be very much someone whose reasoning is set up for operating alone – in the context of the Empire, but in some meaningful sense he's still alone – on a hostile planet. How does that fit together? How does any of it fit with the depth of - not loyalty, exactly, but alliance - that her mind makes very, very clear she feels toward Altarrin? 

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Well, dath ilan as Keltham experienced it wasn't trying to operate alone on a hostile planet, so a lot of the techniques they taught were techniques that one used while embedded in a civilization of other people who also used them. It's not as if you couldn't take the basic principles and shape people to go survive on hostile planets, it's just that that wasn't what Keltham was. And he could've - reshaped himself, right, but he's not like Carissa, he doesn't think of reshaping himself as a skill he takes pride in and employs where it's needed. He conceives of it as a kind of death. 

 

(She suspects that a lot of dath ilani would in fact have preferred death to surrendering to be meticulously made subject to the Empire. Carissa understands that she may never again be able to access her own values and priorities, that part of Arbas's job is to remake her to be easier for the Empire to use, and she disprefers this obviously but she wouldn't take on much risk of death to avoid it and it's not viscerally upsetting. She accepts it and doesn't resent him for it. This is really really not how she'd expect any dath ilani to react.)

Altarrin - would like to live in a world he didn't have to work against. And failing that he'd like to not be alone, to have an ally, and Carissa happens to grasp enough of what a man like that wants to be that ally. But since he does live in a world he has to work against, his habits are trained for that. 

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That seems like a very impractical way for a person to be trained to be, but maybe it's fine if you've already built a civilization where nothing bad happens if people are fragile and have impractical preferences. 

 

Carissa might find it amusing to know that the Inquisition came to the conclusion that Altarrin was in love with her, the kind of love that - how did she put it in her poetic thoughts - the kind where it's a cognitive distortion that makes you stupid. Arbas thinks they're confused about a lot of things probably including that aspect, but not, fundamentally, wrong. They thought she'd mind-controlled him into it, of course, but it seems a lot more likely from where he's standing that the man just has a very specific type.

Of course, whether it's a good thing for the Empire to allow Carissa to see Altarrin again remains to be seen. Bastran wants to bring Altarrin up here but that's mostly just him being hopelessly Good and needing saving from his own Goodness by people like Arbas. 

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She trusts Altarrin, would be immensely relieved to again be Altarrin's, but she's not actually experiencing desperate urgency around meeting him, especially if he's still just radiating misery at everyone. 

'Altarrin is in love with her' .....does make sense of some things, actually, though it does not make sense of how he behaved whenever he was actually around her - 

- no, it totally does, hopeless Good people are like that, they invent reasons why they shouldn't have sex with people and then go around mournfully enduring the rules they made up. One of the things she really appreciated about Keltham was that he was not like that, though of course a Good person would call him an example of precisely why you should be like that. 

 

Whether it's good for the Empire depends a lot on what you're considering good for the Empire. - 

- yeah all her attempts at thinking about that for him are definitely running into the planning-horizon block. 

 

 

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(Yeah, he didn't actually especially want or need her answer, he's fairly sure Bastran's mind is made up, it's mostly just fun to needle her and see which things do or don't get a strong reaction.) 

Arbas' guess is actually that during the times she's thinking of, Altarrin was not in love with her, certainly had no interest in fucking her, and mostly valued her as a resource, maybe a potential future ally once she got over herself and stopped being childish and petty about everything. If she'd wanted to seduce him sooner she could've tried 'take a 10% risk of dying forever in order to save his life', that seems to have done it. 

 

- anyway, moving on from that, he wants to go back and get her best recollections of all of Keltham's lectures in order. (This is going to take a while.) 

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Carissa will obey. A lot of the lectures are going to be hard for him to follow but he can at least get everything written down.

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Yeah. A lot of it seems kind of pointless to him, honestly, which either means he doesn't understand it or doesn't get why someone would care about it. He'll write everything down, though, to include in his report to Bastran at the end of the day. 

(He doesn't ask her again about her loyalty to the Empire. It's - not really the interesting question, is it? He has as good a sense of Carissa as a person is likely to get when they're not quite smart enough to follow all of her reasoning. She's not loyal to the Empire, and he doesn't think you can get her that way without quite a lot of pruning her mind into convenient shapes, which would in some ways feel like a tragic waste. He thinks they can do less than that and get a Carissa who isn't an enemy to the Empire and who will apply her extraordinary talents to the Emperor's goals as long as it's within her incentives. Arbas doesn't think he understands 'Lawfulness' enough to know what those incentives are, but Altarrin would, and Bastran can probably even get the answer out of him.)

 

As usual, when his Thoughtsensing is worn out, he heads out. After replacing and re-tightening some of her compulsions, including the one against forward-looking planning in full generality, but he leaves her the ability to make predictions, this time, and he doesn't take back the headband.

He doesn't give her anything to do with herself to stay occupied, either.

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Then as usual she will quietly exercise in her cell and then go back to bed.

 

The lack of real light is wearing on her. It's like the Worldwound in the winter, when the sun doesn't rise for months and some part of you concludes you've already died and gone to Hell and may as well despair entirely. Carissa is on the low end of susceptibility to that, but she's not immune.

...do the compulsions let her hurt herself? Not seriously so, just, you know, practicing that act of will that lets you bite yourself hard enough to draw blood, that kind of thing.

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If she tries it the naive way, it appears that they do, but she might with some experimentation and mental poking be able to notice that what the compulsions actually block is intent to injure herself (they don't want prisoners able to deliberately render themselves less functional during an interrogation, or cause the Healers extra work). It does not per se block intent to cause pain. She can probably get some wiggle room around whether drawing blood is something her mind counts as an injury that would make her any amount whatsoever less functional. 

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She's actually trying to make herself more functional, here!!! She's not intending that the Healers do any extra work at all!!!

 

If Arbas is annoyed in the morning that is outside Carissa's current planning horizon and therefore not remotely her problem.

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Bastran has been having a BAD DAY.

 

The issue is that the situation in Jacona is not, really, stable without him. It would be different if Altarrin were at his post. It might even be different if Altarrin's replacement had had three months to get settled and handpick some of his own personally loyal staff and get the compulsions redone to his satisfaction on everyone else. But he's had barely a week, and with the Emperor mostly unavailable, and Altarrin's key staff under arrest, and it turns out Altarrin does kind of a lot of troubleshooting and keeping an eye on people that is not strictly speaking within the Archmage-General's domain of responsibility. Just to give an example of one of their many brewing problems, one of their Mage-Generals is suspected of taking the power vacuum as an excuse to embezzle money and redirect supplies to...somewhere...and the new Archmage-General seems to be very helpless about finding creative ways of collecting evidence on this. 

 

He needs to be back in the capital. Even more importantly, he needs Altarrin back on his duties. He's very badly hoping that Arbas' report will conclude that it's not a risk to keep Carissa under compulsions against escape/harm/sabotage but allow her the ability to prepare defensive spells just in case of godinterference. 

 

He already submitted a report to the Office of Inquiry that morning, suggesting that there's probably not that much more they can expect to wring out of Altarrin, really Carissa was the main threat here the whole time and Carissa is remaining a prisoner for the foreseeable future. If their conclusion now is that Altarrin is no more disloyal than the average minister and his incentives can be aligned, it seems it would make sense for them to conclude that aspect of the investigation, and let the Emperor decide how to set up Altarrin's new compulsions so he won't be any trouble and can return to his duties, at which he seems to be surprisingly irreplaceable and gets more work done, and more competently, than the half a dozen other people Bastran attempted to assign to cover all his areas of responsibility. 

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Arbas' report has really quite a lot of math in it, often written out in very confusing longhand since Arbas is minimally trained in any kind of Imperial math notation. There's also substantial commentary on Carissa's relationship with Keltham of dath ilan. 

 

At the end, he says that he really doubts it would be a problem to let Carissa prepare a limited selection of spells, and he's confident he can handle the compulsions that will allow that - and allow casting them in self-defense - without giving her any loopholes she could use offensively. She's actually quite easy to compulsion on the level of actions and intentions even if it's unusually hard to shut down her reasoning instincts; her mind is very legible. They could probably even let her craft items and not have that be a problem? Seems silly to waste months of her time here, if they're keeping her as a political prisoner slash hostage slash in protective custody away from gods and godplots and court plots. He's content to wait on that until the Emperor has had a chance to speak to her, though. 

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Well. Does he have anything from Mage-Inquisitor Beatta on the feasibility of releasing Altarrin, say, tonight? Bastran definitely has some hard questions lined up that he intends to ask his Archmage-General directly, but do they expect much in the way of marginal progress from keeping him longer? 

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Beatta will of course release him at the Emperor's command! And this particular command is feasible. They think they've exhausted most of the immediate progress they can get, and their model seems reasonably accurate; he has unfortunately been demoted from Uniquely Fascinatingly Ultra-Loyal to About As Loyal As The Typical Imperial Minister And In Love With Someone Politically Unreliable, but it doesn't appear that he's actually treasonous.

(The Office of Inquiry got a week. They are OK with getting a week. They don't think they're missing anything except the state secrets they aren't allowed to ask about, which they obviously want to ask about but can't ask about.)

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It is very stupid to be tempted to tell them the state secret so they'll be adequately impressed by everything Altarrin has done. Bastran is, to be fair, only the teeniest fraction tempted. 

 

He passes some orders to Arbas, and makes plans to return to Jacona. 

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Normally, once they've done their eight candlemarks, Arbas doesn't show up again until the next morning. 

This time, he comes back barely a candlemark after leaving. (He's slightly grumpy about it; he has a headache.) 

 

:Carissa. The Emperor just announced that we're finished with this stage of questioning. To be clear we're not done with you – you're staying here for months, I'd guess, the Emperor wants you out of the way while he handles the mess you left at court and I reckon he wants to hold onto some leverage over Altarrin. But he's returning to court. Apparently this means delegating the communications work to some of his loyal people, and while I really can't see how anyone could get to you here, he's paranoid enough about attempts on your life that he'd like you able to defend yourself: 

He has a list of spells that she'll be allowed to prepare and cast if necessary, once he carves out the special loophole compulsions for them! The current tentative list of potentially allowed Protection from Energy, Mage Armor, and - if she needs to escape an imminent Final Strike or something - one each of Dimension door (which she will be allowed to cast directly up to reach the surface only), Fly, Invisibility, and Gaseous Form. Her compulsions won't let her go more than a mile from her starting point and she has to wear a Velgarth tracking device, which she is compulsioned not to take off and which is also very magically difficult to remove. She can have one Sending which she is only allowed to target to him or Rosha, if she has to request rescue or pickup. She can have Infernal Healing. 

 

He's also going to redo her loyalty compulsion to the Emperor and Empire. With a different much tighter wording than before; he's absolutely not intending to let her substitute 'following Altarrin's judgement' as serving the Empire. She's separately under a compulsion to return to the facility as soon as possible (without being required to directly risk her life, if for example it's on fire) or otherwise arrange to be collected. 

But, once that's done, she can have most of her mind back; she still won't be allowed to think about plans for escape or sabotage or harming anyone or deceiving them, but he's going to entirely take off the compulsions around letting her make plans and strategize. 

 

Does Carissa want to make a bid to modify any of these conditions, particularly the exact allowed spell list. 

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She'd like Tongues so they can talk, sometimes it's useful to formulate things all the way into words. She'd like the ability to make a Rope Trick to hide in. 

 

 

...she doesn't expect them to care what she wants, with respect to the loyalty compulsions, so she's going to try pretty hard to not want the many many things she is internally screaming for. That was outside her planning horizon and now it's not and it's - the Emperor is going to crush a million things he doesn't even understand and she'll forget them and never be able to explain them - it's fine - it won't be forever, and things that aren't forever don't really matter -

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She can have Tongues if she wants, and the spell that lets her read books. She can have one Rope Trick but they're providing a rope with a tracking device built into it so she can't remove that and disappear into an extradimensional pocket. 

(The research mages are also pretty sure they've figured out how to target a scry-search into a Rope Trick, if not into other kinds of extradimensional space that presumably exist and don't have literal entrances contiguous with the material plane and a particular enduring magical signature, but he's not going to just reveal that.) 

 

He doesn't ask about her internal screaming.

The loyalty compulsion, when he places it, is oddly non-underlying-motivation-affecting, given how spectacularly obvious it is, sitting like a wire trap in her mind. The one Altarrin laid on her was much subtler; it was easy to fail to notice if she was being tugged by it or a by a different purely internal drive. Here, there are a lot of thoughts she can't follow, and it's very obvious that she wouldn't at all be able to directly consider working against the Empire or even working toward leaving it, but those lines of thought don't stumble silently off cliffs into pits so much as bounce off barriers and lose momentum in a way she can notice clearly on introspection. 

And she should have quite a lot of space carved out for hypotheticals; the compulsion won't, for example, object nearly as hard to modeling Hypothetical Carissa Who Doesn't Serve The Empire. 

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The thing she cares about is the ability to make tradeoffs between things. She thinks for most people loyalty compulsions don't affect that too much because most people aren't very explicit with themselves about the tradeoffs in the first place, but if the compulsions don't allow trading some security-of-empire for some other things then she's going to need to stop reasoning about tradeoffs between things and that basically means giving up all of the having-beliefs stuff.

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(Well, Bastran is certainly allowed to think about tradeoffs as they affect the Empire, and its security and stability isn't the only win criterion here. He got into an entire fight with Kastil about that. Bastran is probably not going to object to Carissa reasoning that way - but Arbas doesn't actually want her doing independent reasoning about tradeoffs against the Empire's security, right now, that seems like a terrible idea. She can cope with an annoying compulsion for a week, surely.) 

 

Once he's got everything set up to his liking, she can prepare spells. 

(He doesn't make a comment about the fact that she was biting herself to the point of drawing blood, but he makes it clear that he noticed and slightly raises an eyebrow about it.) 

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She can totally cope with an annoying compulsion for a week but she is absolutely doing so by shutting down all the tradeoff-based and degree-of-certainty-based reasoning. This isn't as easy as it was the first few times she switched between dath ilan style reasoning and Asmodean style reasoning but she has confidence she hasn't lost the skill entirely. (How much confidence? No, that's not meaningful, everything is just what her instincts tell her, no shining a spotlight on it like that, the light is dangerous.)

 

She prepares spells. There are plenty of wizards of her intelligence who aren't dath ilani at all and are just very good at math. She will be one of them.

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And the Emperor Gates back to Jacona. 

 

...There are, inevitably, a dozen people who need him right now and a pileup of formal documents he has to read and sign, in addition to selecting and briefing some of his most loyal people – he picks scholars, not guards, he might need the guards here – and Gating them out to his previous hideout so they can take over relaying comms. No one actually tries to assassinate him, at least. It seems like the situation should be recoverable, as long as he has Altarrin. 

 

It's nearly midnight before he alerts the Office of Inquiry that they can deliver Altarrin to his personal office now, he'll handle explaining the situaiton. They're welcome to leave all their precautionary compulsions against escape but he would appreciate it if they let the man walk on his own. 

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Altarrin was sleeping. He doesn't complain about being woken, not out loud, but it's hard enough to get any long restful blocks of sleep right now and he is definitely resenting this one being interrupted. 

...Not that much, though. No one is telling him why now but he can guess. 

 

He will allow himself to be Gated back to the palace and then walked over to the Emperor's office. Walking entirely under his own volition is odd. It feels like he's forgotten how.

(He's also definitely shaky and a bit lightheaded. The Healers have done a good job, he hasn't run a fever in four days, but Healing leans hard on the body's resources and it's not that he was trying to starve himself, it's just very hard to know the right amount of food to consume while he can only eat at mealtimes when directly instructed to do so, and also he was perhaps not very motivated to have more energy so they could interrogate him for even more candlemarks per day.) 

 

He lets them lead him into the Emperor's office. He sits. 

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Bastran shoos his guards to stand outside the room. He raises half a dozen shields, and then pours a cup of watered wine for each of them. 

"The Office of Inquiry is done with you. I only had to lean on them a bit – they're not pleased that your devotion to the Empire is weakening, is how they put it, but they concluded all on their own that you're not a traitor." 

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Altarrin isn't sure what to say to this. He has no idea where he stands with Bastran, right now - or what's happening with Carissa - or what the future is going to hold, which he can't even speculate about because he still has compulsions against making plans. 

"Mmm," he says, as neutrally as he can manage. 

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Bastran pushes the wine-cup closer to him. 

"Altarrin, don't take this the wrong way, but you look terrible. Are you actually in any way ready to return to your duties?" 

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He has no idea what Bastran wants right now and the weirdly-reworded loyalty compulsions are massively in the way of thinking. "I will do as you command." 

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Sigh. 

"I don't want to - hurt you. And I separately don't want to throw complicated politics at you when you're clearly in bad shape. What do you need, to be fully functional." 

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He opens his mouth. Closes it. Makes a face. 

 

 

"...Your Majesty, I am going to need to be under fewer compulsions than this in order to - answer any complicated questions. Including that one. If you are reluctant to put everything back as it was before then I am really not sure you should be asking me to resume any duties." 

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"If I put everything back how it was, are you going to figure out a way to leave and go do all the exciting projects you'd clearly rather be doing." 

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This is terrible. This is the worst conversation he's ever had and that's counting the one where he had to tell Kastil about his sex life. 

 

"If I put your compulsions back how they were before, are you going to find a way to flee the Empire in the next six months. We - can talk - I understand how much you've done for us, I really am grateful, and I– I want you back but I don't want you as a puppet to my will, that's not having you..." Helpless shrug. "We can talk. I just need to know that you'll - stick around for that." 

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Altarrin's breath sighs out. "I am not going to try to run away in the next six months. I - will deal with the political fallout for you, I assume that is what you are asking for - I am not going to just - walk away and leave everything to fall apart behind. But I need to be able to think." 

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"All right. Hold still, I'm not as fast at this as you are. And have a drink, seriously, you look like you need it." 

And he'll redo Altarrin's standard loyalty compulsions, before removing any of the rest. It does take him a while. 

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It's late. Altarrin sips the wine, very slowly, and tries to stay awake. 

(Even with the compulsions back to their previous state, he isn't thinking much. It still doesn't feel safe.) 

 

"I want my Ring of Sustenance back," he tells Bastran when it's finished. "I assume you have concluded by now that Carissa's artifacts are exactly what she claims them to be." 

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"All right. And I do want you to have a chance to - get your head back together, I know you just had an awful week and I wouldn't be okay after that. What do you need?" 

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"Give me forty-eight candlemarks and permission to Gate to one of my - private supply caches, alone, and I should be fine." 

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"....I don't feel incredibly comfortable with that. But if you just need to - be somewhere safe under shields, with some privacy? The facility where we're holding Carissa is one of the safest places in the Empire right now, whether it's from gods or court plots. You wouldn't be alone there, of course, but - would having Carissa there help, or make it harder?" 

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"I am not sure." It really depends on Carissa, who may or may not be happy to see him after the week she's presumably had, and who might or might not be in any state to reassure him. 

(It's bizarre to realize that he would actually find it a huge relief, right now, to sleep with Carissa beside him - where did that come from - also obviously if it still upsets her he doesn't want to do that, but he's mostly just very confused, right now, about what does or doesn't upset Carissa, and where they stand.) 

"I would really prefer not to continue being a prisoner," he adds, stiffly. "Or - staying in a room that feels like a cell -" 

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"Of course. I understand. You wouldn't be a prisoner, to be clear, though I am going to request that you come straight back here afterward, and obviously you have orders not to sneak Carissa out or something. The facility does have some nice bedroom suites as well, and it's a long way from fully occupied, I think it used to house forty scientists. It wasn't built as a prison, I think they had to repurpose a Work Room for holding Carissa. She should probably be offered the chance to move to better accommodations, too, we've formally finished the first stage of questioning, we just want to hold onto her until things are - more settled." 

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“All right. Where is it.”

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“I would rather not tell you that. It’s not - personal - my people on site don't know exactly where they are on a map either. I can Gate you there. Don’t try to trace the Gate.”

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Sigh. 

“Do you want to go now, or - get some sleep and head over tomorrow? It’s late.”

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Carissa is presumably also lacking a Ring of Sustenance and will be asleep anyway. 

 

Altarrin nonetheless doesn't really want to sleep in the palace. It doesn't feel safe. "Please." 

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They can head over to his personal Work Room, then, so he can raise a Gate undetectable to anyone else. (He resents it slightly. It's tiring, not being able to use the permanent Gate-network. But it's definitely petty to complain, given the week that everyone else is having.) 

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Altarrin is focusing nearly all of his attention on putting one foot in front of the other. Accepting even watered wine without having any food was perhaps, in some way, akin to a mistake.

He makes it across the Gate without incident and without more than the slightest frisson of anxiety, though, and then he can use the short-range secure communication spell (he can use his Gifts again!!!) to reach the mage-guard on overnight duty and find out where he's supposed to sleep. 

(It's nearly a candlemark after midnight. Carissa is probably not still awake? He should spend some time on his own putting his head back together, though, she doesn't like it when he's miserable and he has way fewer reasons to be miserable right now but his mind hasn't caught up with that yet.) 

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Carissa actually stayed up late meditating further on how to be not dath ilani and not think in tradeoffs (she is worried Arbas isn't going to approve of this set of mental habits, so she wants them set in stone before he can fuck with her about them), but she is of course not alerted to arrivals to the facility.

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Altarrin is going to check, though. Her Work Room cell is totally not shielded against scrying (though the facility itself is, Bastran must have set up a special workaround or used one of the extremely well-kept-secret scrying variants that route around standard shielding.) 

- wow, they really should have offered her an actual bedroom, rude. 

 

He...spends a couple of minutes thinking about whether he actually wants to talk to her, right now. ...The answer is clearly yes. The part he's unsure on is what state she's in right now and whether she'll be glad of it but - actually he's too tired to figure that out right now. He should at least let her know that he's all right and has his magic back and no-more-restrictive-than-usual compulsions, and...Bastran told him six months and they'll talk about it, which isn't the least positive update they could have gotten. 

He wants her to hug him and it feels very weird to ask

 

He heads to her room, managing with some significant application of willpower not to sway with exhaustion, and knocks politely. 

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- that's new. 


She gets the door. 

 

 

 

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" - "

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"- Archmage-General." 

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"Carissa. I -" 

 

She definitely doesn't look unhappy to see him and hopefully isn't going to be miserable or scared if he crosses the room and hugs her because apparently this is what he's doing now. 

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(He looks kind of terrible! He's lost weight and there are new stress-lines around his mouth, and bags under his eyes from being hauled out of bed in the middle of the night. But he isn't currently radiating misery hardly at all.) 

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She appears to be in perfect health aside from quite a lot of healing bite marks on her forearms. She hugs him back, vigorously. She doesn't have a language in common with him right now but that's all right, he's here, he's alive. It could be a trick she doesn't need to consider that right now. Be good and believe what you see.

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He should have made time to learn some Taldane– he absolutely should not have done that, it would at no point been a reasonable priority, and it's fine, it's good, the most important thing he wanted to tell Carissa is already communicated. 

He maybe wants to keep hugging her for a while, apparently. 

 

- he could perhaps simultaneously communicate that he's free and allowed to use magic, and that someone really should have offered her the nicer accommodations at this point, by raising a Gate to the dorm hallway. The mage-guard gave him a room number; the rooms are small, space excavated underground is expensive (in lives and not just in money) and they aren't luxurious, by any means, but they have better beds, and rugs and desks and and permanent mage-lights that can be controlled by keywords. 

<I am not taking her anywhere but I assume I am allowed to show her to the accommodations someone should really have offered her already> he sends to the overnight guard. <Can you put her down for the one next to mine?> 

Gate. And, wow, his reserves are in terrible shape; it takes a massive effort of will not to stumble. Does Carissa want to cross with him? He will with some reluctance stop hugging her for this but not let go of her hand. (Really, there are a lot of things he wants to say in words, but 'not letting go of her' is his only nonverbal method of conveying how relieved and glad he is to see her, and he doesn't want to anyway.) 

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- he's taking her to his bedroom? She will absolutely cooperate with this though with considerable confusion!!! 

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He's going to stop outside the doors and open both and point at clearly at which is his and which is hers! See, this is a way nicer room with a bedside table and writing paper on the desk and everything! Hopefully this is something that can be conveyed when the only words they have in common right now are his name and her name. 

- he would absolutely not mind if she wants to come hang out with him in his room, and in fact expects to somehow feel about 50% safer even though Carissa is still under very restrictive compulsions and presumably can't do much to protect either of them, but he will let go of her hand and try to convey by gestures and body language that she doesn't have to? This feels somewhat more complicated to communicate and also he's so incredibly tired. 

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 - she can just cast Tongues. "Sorry, what am I choosing between?"

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Oh she has Tongues that's way easier, though hopefully not a frustrating waste of most of the spell for her given how late it is. (They're letting her prepare spells! Bastran might or might not have said that, he doesn't remember due to exhaustion.) 

"They have actual bedroom accommodations here that are nicer Work Room they put you in, and if they are mostly holding onto you for political reasons, I see no reason why you should still have to sleep in a cell with no furniture. I told the mage-guard to assign you room 14 and it is yours either way, but - if you are in fact glad and not annoyed to see me - I like your company." 

There. Straightforward communication, hopefully coherent. Not just telling Carissa things was in hindsight clearly a major mistake, and this isn't an important thing but maybe it's good to practice anyway. 

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"I'll stay with you." She's slightly clinging. "You told the mage-guard to assign - you've been released? Are you in charge here now?" She's safe if Altarrin's in charge of holding her.

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He'll tug her into room number 15, then, and shut the door behind them and cast half a dozen shield-spells and wards in addition to the built-in ones, which - despite the strain of casting on drained reserves, is an incredible relief. (He doesn't block scrying.) They can go sit down on his bed. He isn't exactly clinging but he's definitely holding Carissa very securely. 

"I am technically not in charge of this operation but I do outrank everyone here – I was officially cleared in the investigation and released, yes, and the Emperor reinstated my position, I think he is not very happy with my replacement. He did order me not to sneak you out but - honestly, I think you are safer here than you would be outside the Empire, at least without me, and - Bastran said we could talk - but he needs me as Archmage-General for six months to clean up the mess." 

He looks down. "I cannot stay. The Emperor asked what I needed to - be effective - and I requested two days to address the problem where I am very inconveniently traumatized about - various things - and he did not want me going off to a records cache but he suggested I come here. I think he thought it might - help with motivation - to see for myself how they are treating you. I intend to visit again, though, to make sure I approve of their god-safety precautions. ...What compulsions do they have you under?" 

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"You'd need to ask Arbas for the exact list. I don't like the loyalty one at all but I see why they didn't want to give me one with any more wiggle room and it's - fine - if I retreat really far from being dath ilani about anything, or if none of my decisions have Empire-scale strategic importance. Which they don't here but I don't want to get in the habit of -" Shrug. "It doesn't matter. I'm alive. Everyone's been very kind. Which makes sense, if I'm mostly - hostage for your good behavior."

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"It does matter in the longer run - I told Bastran I wanted you with your head working - but not right now, no. I think I should talk to Bastran when I am back at my post, if it is - tolerable for that long." 

Hug hug hug. "You did it. It must have been - I can barely imagine - but you did it. And both of us are alive. The riskiest part is past. We have - options, I think. Bastran said that he wants me back, my full loyalty, but - not by making me a puppet of his will, that is not really having me and is not nearly as useful and he knows it. I think the same is true for you, and I think Bastran can - did - look at the...larger picture...for the Empire. I think we can figure something out." 

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"I actually suspect I bet wrong, in trying to do this! But we can argue that sometime when my head is working properly, I'm not going to try to reconstruct my reasoning now." She leans into him. "- I am glad you're alive. And I do think we can figure something out. Please don't - expend political capital on me-related concerns except keeping me alive, right now."

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"All right. ...I know you will be fine, in the long run, but I really might need your advice at some point. Since you are the smartest person on this planet and all." 

Lean. "I think - I do not want to talk strategy now. I just - too tired for recordkeeping tonight anyway, need to do it tomorrow but it will be so unpleasant. Just want you to...stay. If you do not mind. It - helps. ...I will probably have nightmares, my mind is still very oriented-toward-danger right now and I did not get very far on fixing it while I was compulsioned not to voluntarily move." 

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"I can stay. - as I'm sure has been extensively reported to the Imperial government I spent a lot of time reading too much into you not wanting me to touch you but I will try to just not read anything into this, if you want."

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"I wish I had communicated better about that! I was never angry with you, I just– I generally dislike being touched, I think, it was not - specific to you. ...If you are trying to read into my asking you to stay to figure out whether I want to have sex with you, I honestly have no idea. I think I have never - wanted it in this -" vague handwave, he doesn't actually want to say 'this body' or 'this lifetime' out loud while they're scryable. "It was - always pretending. Which I do not mind so much, necessarily, but if I want someone to be my ally, I - do not want to be pretending with them, unless we both agree we are doing that." 

Shrug. "Though I am not sure I have ever wanted to hug someone like - this - either, so I am not sure what is going on. It was very notable when I was imprisoned with the Office of Inquiry. Maybe I should go review my records and see if it is normal to want to hug someone after they take a 10% risk of dying somewhere with no afterlives in order to save one's life." 

He smiles, crookedly and very tiredly. "And now I wish I had tried to communicate in actual words before, it was not even that hard. Unless you are even more confused now, in which case I suppose the attempt at communication failed." 

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"No, that wasn't confusing. And probably makes things less complicated anyway, I'm still thinking about - I mean, the Emperor can have Caris back, if he wants that, though it's hard because you can't exactly command someone to be Caris for you, and I'm not clear on if he does want that or if he's sobered up and wants me locked away somewhere where I can't wreck anything he cares about, and I want to be cautious in the meantime of things he'd be jealous about." 

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"I am almost certain Bastran is jealous that you - trust me, and not him. I know him very well and he is shockingly insecure about his personal relationships. He is not going to be additionally jealous if we cuddle, and would not - hurt you over it - anyway, he is very– he can be ruthless as Emperor, he has to be and I - taught him - but he prefers not to have to be the Emperor with his lovers, if that makes any sense."

He thinks in silence for a minute.

"I - think it would be good for him, to have Caris back. I doubt he will ask because...right, you cannot command someone to - be what he wants, in that context - and because I think he is convinced he is incompetent at intimate relationships and has ruined everything forever, which is not my diagnosis of his mistakes, to be clear. I can nudge him to apologize to you and maybe that will turn into actual communication about your respective feelings? ...He probably would have very hurt feelings if we had sex, but I think mostly would overthink whether he is worse in bed, which I have no desire to inflict on him." 

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"I don't - 

- I love you because you risked your life to protect me. It would be stupid for him to do that. He doesn't need to - apologize, for what he did instead, I was terrified for a while in there but the precautions were adequate, Arbas has been very gentle with me, I don't have any - I have complaints but they're all - things the Emperor'd rightly be very suspicious of like 'stop mind controlling me to be loyal to you' -

 

- Abrogail promised me she'd never turn me into a statue for real, and said she wouldn't make any particular effort to deny me an afterlife. I don't think I could've loved her, otherwise."

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"I think he made reasonable strategic decisions given the information he had – I wish he had gotten different information in a different order, and I wish he had been more - confident in his own judgement rather than deferring to people who claimed he was mind-controlled - but that is not even a bad heuristic, in general, if one is less sure than am of noticing subtle mind control. ...I think he is embarrassed, for reason I doubt will make sense to you, and it would do him good to apologize." 

Sigh. Maybe they can snuggle horizontally? Somehow Altarrin has been sleeping a lot but not well (and his Ring of Sustenance won't be in effect for another week, now, which is deeply frustrated.) 

 

He's probably going to fall asleep semi-involuntarily, at some point, but he has some sleepy commentary in the meantime. "I should convince Arbas to let you craft magic items again, now that he is not going to be questioning you such a high proportion of the time. Could you make one for Splendor but as powerful as your current one for Cunning, do you think? ...I sort of want all three to swap between, actually, but that sounds like it would take you a very long time and I also still want the item for Detect Thoughts, it would have been so useful on several occasions... What do you think of Arbas? I chose him for Bastran – he really is very loyal to him, even if he might not seem like - someone capable of it..." 

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"I"m sorry I didn't rush you the item for Detect Thoughts, that's the most obvious way I was an idiot. If I'm allowed to craft I can get it done in a week. The powerful headbands take - longer than that, but they're not impossible -

I like Arbas. - will the Emperor be jealous if I flirt with him, it would make the next several months of being a political prisoner much less tedious and I wasn't sure how I was going to make it to eighth circle and get us all some clones but I bet Arbas could get me there."

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"...Huh. - Actually I am not sure why I was surprised, of course you like him. I think the Emperor would be jealous if you fall in love with him but not– ...wait. How could he get you to eighth circle? Have..fights...with you?" 

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"I have to use magic, while sincerely fearing for my life. - the week before I surrendered was great for that, I was doing high stakes spellcasting nearly every waking moment every day, but I'm newly at fifth circle and it doesn't happen that fast. With Golarion magic it's - actually pretty hard, to make someone scared in the right way without actual risk. But Arbas is very good at - he can have me convinced I'm going to die. He'll be delighted if he's supposed to have me convinced I'm going to die. And then he just has to keep me that way for days, ideally weeks, while I try to craft my way out." She sounds very pleased with herself. 

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"You know, most people dislike Arbas rather strongly. I suppose I...should have guessed...you would be an exception. He would find that delightful, you know, someone who he could - test and test and never break - and who would thank him for it afterward - what an oddly appropriate use of him, he is kind of an awful person in most possible circumstances but - I think the Emperor would find that pleasing, he - the thing Arbas does disturbs him, usually, even though he very badly needs someone to play that role for him if he is going to stay in power..."

He's going to snuggle her about it.

...And then fall asleep mostly without meaning to, at some point in the next couple of minutes, curled up against her with his head on her shoulder. 

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She'll try to sleep too. Otherwise, she won't have any spells in the morning, and she needs those to talk to Altarrin, who is here, and will react if there's an emergency, and who wants her to be immortal and safe.

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There are no emergencies. Altarrin, unfortunately, also reacts to some things that aren't emergencies, like the footsteps in the hallway outside when the mage who was just relieved goes to bed, and the sound has him halfway to his feet in a fraction of a second and casting a shield. And then coming very close to passing out, though he can mostly hide it, because it turns out that not consuming any fluids since his ill-advised wine with the Emperor is even more akin to a mistake. 

He apologizes to Carissa and tells her to go back to sleep and gets himself some water, and then lies down and grudgingly puts a couple of temporary compulsions on himself to make it slightly less likely that he throws around magic instinctively or makes noise in his sleep. He also wants Carissa to get a good night's sleep so she can have spells tomorrow. 

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Arbas, when he gets up, receives a rather fascinating log report from the overnight guard. 

 

One might think that someone in his position would be concerned about security, or annoyed at having his toes stepped on.

(It's not that he isn't mildly concerned about security, but - check - there's also a message from the Emperor formally authorizing Altarrin's visit and confirming he's been cleared of all charges in the Office of Inquiry investigation, and is taking a couple of days to check on Carissa, which will hopefully motivate him in his duties.)

Arbas also thinks this is hilarious. He feels so incredibly vindicated. He was right that Altarrin is in love with Carissa and he was also right that Bastran would be ridiculous about it and set them up together and then MOPE about it. (Also, good for Altarrin, maybe there's hope for the man after all.) 

...He even has scrying privileges on the Emperor's private office, and can make bets with himself on exactly how mopey his Emperor is going to be in private, and then check

 

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Carissa and Altarrin were up late and are probably going to sleep in correspondingly later. Altarrin manages to sleep, if not soundly then at least quietly, through the rest of the night and through until midmorning. (It's not like there's any way for his body to tell that it's morning, down here; honestly the only thing keeping his sleep rhythm pinned down in the previous underground facility was the regular interrogations.)

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Carissa really misses her Ring of Sustenance when she wakes up, blearily, after an unknowable amount of time that feels long. 

She prepares spells and does her self-designed exercise routine while she waits for Altarrin to wake.

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Altarrin sleeps over a candlemark longer than her, and wakes up abruptly and visibly disoriented. It seems to startle him that he can move. (Reflexively flinging his mage-sight open to check his surroundings is also slightly unfamiliar and strange - he couldn't do that for so long...) 

He sits up, then looks dizzy and annoyed about it. "Carissa?" He isn't sure if she has Tongues up yet. 

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She didn't - didn't want to waste it - but she casts it. "Altarrin."

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Yawn. "Where were you on making the translation artifact, when - everything -? Actually I am not sure where your unfinished work ended up, does the Office of Inquiry have it or did you take it with you?" Altarrin rubs his eyes. "We should get breakfast. I am not actually sure what the food setup is here but we could walk around and find it, it cannot be a large facility." 

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"They've been bringing food to my room. I didn't actually know I was allowed to leave it. My unfinished work that was on my desk I assume the Office of Inquiry has, my unfinished work from while I was on the run I assume Arbas has. Did you really pick him out? He seems very...not you."

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"We are very different! But he is a mage-Thoughtsenser; there are very few like him in the Empire, you cannot decline to make use of anyone with that Gift-combination just because you dislike their personality, and he is very intelligent. He also has reliable if limited-scope short-range Foresight, which is invaluable in the Emperor's guard when combined with the others. And he was...going to be a problem, left to his own devices. So I mentored him and made sure he would at least only be a problem for the Emperor's enemies. ...I would not describe him as Lawful by any means but he quite good at - grasping and following his incentives, if they are explained to him clearly, and he is less ambitious than - novelty-seeking, one might call it. Anyway, I explained to him why loyalty to the Emperor would get him everything he wanted, I think he is quite happy with the arrangement, and anyone who might be tempted to oppose the Emperor is that much more afraid of what will happen if they get caught." 

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"Mmmm. ...I need to adjust my expectations of you until I overestimate you as often as I underestimate you."

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"That seems useful, if you think you have that problem - I am not sure I know which times you think you did either? And, hmm – I am actually not sure if I have more often under or overestimated you, I think I have mostly just mis-estimated you in directions that were not clearly positive or negative...?"

 

And they can walk around looking for the breakfast hall! The facility is indeed small and warren-like and kind of claustrophic, with low ceilings and narrow doorways and a general inclination to save on room volume wherever possible. At one point they find what looks like a very elaborate alchemy laboratory, though clearly not one that's been used in the last fifty years. 

"...I think I know where we are," he says in a low voice, pausing by the laboratory. "Well, not exactly, but more or less. There are not many places where that equipment setup would be safe enough to be worth building at all."

He's also fifty-fifty on whether he personally designed and built this place, but that isn't the sort of thing one says out loud in a non-private location. 

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" - sorry, does it need...cold temperatures? Thin air? Dry air?"

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"A sufficiently low level of godinterference, actually! We do not have the technology to build in enough safety precautions to account for interference. Which does make experiments run here of limited use in the Empire proper, and we cannot actually just move the capital here, if I am right we are currently far enough north to be snowbound year-round. But for a time the Empire ran most non-magical research and built most engineering prototypes in this region, with carefully vetted personnel of course, to get - example data on how it should look without interference." 

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" - huh."

If Altarrin knows where she is then that means he could come and get her. Once he's met his commitments to Bastran, or if Bastran is assassinated. She feels safer. She squeezes his hand. "I really like Golarion's gods a lot better. Even the terrible ones don't just make it impossible to do research on how the world works."

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"I am not sure they mean to do that? I think they just - cannot see very well what any of the Foresight patterns they operate in actually mean, for the mortals living on this level. It - should be possible to cross that gulf, I think, to actually translate concepts back and forth - one could imagine a god that contained all of that and could actually talk to us, it even sounds like this is approximately what the formerly human gods of Golarion can do, but..."

Slight chuckle. "Maybe I could figure it out in less than several centuries if you make me that headband for Cunning." 

 

And shortly after that they'll find the tiny dining hall! There are a couple of trestle tables, and a door that probably leads to a kitchen, and the table has tea and bread and boiled eggs and fruit set out. 

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Carissa isn't picky. Also she should really eat fruit with how she's never going outside and has been denied her Ring of Sustenance. She'll have some of everything.

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Arbas is sitting with his feet propped up, playing some kind of solitary game that apparently involves throwing marbles across the room into a cup. He sees them collecting food, misses the toss, and grabs it back with a casual force-net. 

:Did you two seriously just wake up?: Eyebrow waggle. :I guess I win my bet on 'fun night.' Don't worry, I was tempted but I didn't actually scry you.: 

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Altarrin just shakes his head. And collects a very reasonable quantity of food, but with a definite lack of enthusiasm. 

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Carissa smiles brightly back at Arbas. :Used to be I could do late nights and early mornings, but someone took away my magic item for it. You could give it back now, you know.:

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Marble-toss. He gets it in this time. :Ah, but if you didn't have to eat, would you ever join us for breakfast?: 

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:When Altarrin's here! I certainly wouldn't show up just for you.:

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Lazy smile. He addresses his answer to her privately; somehow it's clear in the Mindspeech that he's not including Altarrin. :You know, Carissa, just because I'm not reading your mind right this moment doesn't mean you can lie to me: 

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Oh, are you not reading my mind right now? More’s the pity; I was having all these interesting thoughts.

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:Oh really: He takes one leg down from the table, folds it, takes the other leg down. :A bold claim to make, you know – most thoughts bore me, I've seen them a thousand times before: 

 

He's totally going to read her mind, though. What oh what are all those interesting thoughts she claims to be thinking? 

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Carissa wonders if it bothers him, that he's never seen her mind in pain, that he's not allowed to, that the single most interesting corner of how she thinks and how she exists is one he's not allowed to peek into at all.

- also she's worried Altarrin is undereating. She nudges him. "Eat more than that, you look ghastly."

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"I hate not having the Ring of Sustenance working yet. - Arbas, you should return Carissa's, they have no offensive use - even less than the headband, really - and they avoid so much wasted time." Altarrin isn't entirely sure why food is such a frustrating uphill battle right now. He will apply himself somewhat harder to the task of finishing his plate. 

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"I might consider it." 

He's giving Carissa a thoughtful, speculative look. :You might be the first person I've ever known who claimed to be more interesting when suffering. Usually people stop having interesting thoughts. ...And it's hardly a matter of 'allowed', the Emperor doesn't tell me how to work, but it'd make him sad and he mopes enough already: 

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:I want sixth circle. ....actually, I want eighth, but I'm not sure one can cheat all the way there. I don't see why the Emperor should need any details, if he doesn't want to hear them.:

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:I confess I don't see–: Tug a couple of memory-threads in her mind; it's noticeable but not obtrusive, it's pretty clear that when he was obtrusive before he was doing it on purpose. :Ah. But is it pain that does it, or fear?: 

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:You know, I'm not sure anyone's ever conducted a properly rigorous experiment.:

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Broad smile. :Did you hear how this is the best place on the continent to conduct properly rigorous experiments?: 

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Carissa thinks that if he can't figure things out from there then he's really hopeless, and she bets he isn't. She turns back to Altarrin. "So as to not make the same mistake I made last time, is there anything I can craft you that'll make you less likely to work yourself to death before I get out of here?"

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"I was not working myself to death! I was fine, physically - all right, the Ring of Sustenance might be most of why. If there is anything else that increases stamina, that would at least mean it costs me less, physically. ...I had thought before that Owl's Wisdom ought to help with - not prioritizing stupidly - I was asking for it before, but I am not sure it actually did help. Maybe a permanent effect from a headband would be more effective, but I would miss Splendor and I understand combining them is very very difficult?" 

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"Beyond mere mortals," she says, smiling slightly. "Give me a year or two, I'll figure it out. Maybe I should get you a belt of constitution, actually, in the meantime, it's - general health - it doesn't in fact make you young again but that's the general sort of effect."

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"That would almost certainly help. We have mage-techniques to massively slow the effects of aging past a certain point - in terms of physical health and stamina I am on part with a forty or fifty-year-old - but I do still notice it. ...And if I am coming here anyway to check on you, you can check on me right back and nag me if you think I am working unreasonably hard." 

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"Well, you have demonstrated you cannot be trusted to look after yourself. Going off to poke around inside a mine, really."

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“I should have been able to Gate out immediately if anything happened! In fact, I did Gate out. I would have been all right if not for all the other complications.”

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"I'd get you a single-use item of Infernal Healing except you can't just sort of trick the magic into thinking you have the spell components, when you're making an item, and we haven't the blood of a single devil here. Maybe I can get you a single-use item of False Life. And in the meantime you can stay out of mines."

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“I have no intention of going into any mines and should not need to, assuming you held onto the spellsilver I left for you. What is False Life again? Also I think I missed the part where your healing is supposed to use devil’s blood! How does that work?”

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"There mostly isn't arcane healing, it's mostly divine magic. Which I will be able to imitate at seventh clrcle and do all kinds of very impressive stuff.  The arcane healing that there is is things like Infernal Healing, which uses a drop of a devil's blood and gives the person the attribute that the devil had, of fast healing. ...and I trained to pretend there was devil's blood when there wasn't. That's not me being unusually impressive, it's one of the most common skills a combat wizard picks up. Otherwise you need to be carrying around a backpack full of random bits and bobs and bat guano. 

False Life temporarily restores a person to health. Ten hours. Long enough for you to go home where someone can patch you up properly."

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"I am amazed that works and – yes. That would have solved approximately the entire problem - I could have scried enough sites to confirm I was safe to return and cleared up everything before it exploded - and then of course that would have been visible in Foresight and the gods might not have bothered at all - how long will it take?" 

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"How long will it take you to convince the Emperor I should be permitted to do crafting? 

- it'll probably be weeks even once you've done that, this isn't an item that already exists I'm copying, it's me thinking it ought to be possible to make in principle and so I'd better do it before you get yourself killed."

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"I think I can convince the Emperor within a candlemark once I speak to him in person. So - two days from now."

He sighs. Looks down at his nearly-empty plate. "I...do need to go and. Actually do what I said I would do with these two days, and work on processing things and updating notes so I can get my head back in working order and stop flinching about everything." Glance at Carissa, almost shyly. "I think a lot of it would be boring for you but - if you are willing to be nearby sometimes -" 

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"It says something fascinating and not good about the Empire that it's like this when you and Bastran are both way too good for your own good. Of course I'll stay, if it's helpful. Added bonus, it'll annoy Arbas."

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Arbas raises an eyebrow but does not interrupt. 

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They can head out again, then. Altarrin takes Carissa's hand without really thinking about it or consciously noticing that he's doing it. 

"I want to stop at the supply room to see if it is still stocked, I need a lot of paper for this. ...You know, normally I have some idea what you mean when you say I am way too Good for my own good but this time I am at a loss, I assume that even Evil people have a preference not for being flinchy about things. If anything it would come up way more what with all the torture." 

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"I mean, you just - refuse to consider me a resource you can point at your goals, even when you obviously should? If it's helpful to have me nearby, have me nearby. If I'm fucking around making magic items for fun and you need one, tell me to make it for you. You asked before taking my headband. - I'm not exactly complaining, to be clear, it's just...too good for your own good. It's all right to just - take things you need."

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"I do just take things I need from most people! That is - how it works, in my position. But...I think it would not be completely all right to do that with an ally like you, actually? Not without actually checking what the tradeoff is against you using your resources. ...If you think the tradeoff is nearly always in favor of pointing you at my goals then I can take that under consideration, but - you are not just a resource, you are - someone who can use resources to accomplish things and that is so much rarer." 

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"I explained it to Arbas as - Lawful gods will just pick up utility for each other where they see it - and I was right, but I don't actually have very much experience at doing it. I think - you have a lot more context than me and so it's going to be rare, that I'm spending my resources on something that's not a priority of yours because I'm right instead of because I'm missing something. I can - try to ask, though."

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"And I can go on asking you when I want you to do something for me! You know, most people in your position would resent it if I took the headband without even asking, even if they thought I was acting reasonably given my position and incentives. To the extent you - really would not have, at the start - I think this is something Cheliax did to you, and I am– it is also not good incentives to treat you worse just because you have higher priors on being treated badly." 

He opens another door: supply-room! This is neither the alchemy supply room (which should have been emptied before the facility was shut down, it would have contained dangerous and chemically unstable substances) nor a magical supply room; it just has paper (loose, of varying sizes, and bound in blank notebooks) and inks and pens and other clerical supplies. Altarrin helps himself to a stack of notebooks, a sheaf of extra-large paper, and some writing supplies. 

"- For this request in particular," he adds to Carissa, "I was concerned you might have some kind of unbearably Chelish reaction to the fact that sometimes I have emotions." 

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"You do and it's probably part of why you saved my life and so I can hardly complain about it."

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"I think it made sense entirely for strategic reasons! But...yes. I care about you as a person. I am fairly sure this is something humans do sometimes even when they are not Good." 

They can head back to his room, where apparently the first stage of the thing he's doing involves flopping on the bed with a large notebook and pen, and dedicating multiple pages to some kind of list (which Carissa won't be able to read with only Tongues up.)

His expression is level and focused, while he does this, but he's definitely tensing up, and then occasionally catching himself and making a deliberate effort to relax his shoulders. 

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Carissa isn't trying to read his notes; she sits facing away from him and - 

- many of her favorite topics of thought are currently unavailable -

- contemplates what to say to the Emperor when she next sees him. 'have you tried earning peoples' loyalty instead of sticking it in their heads' is unfortunately way too confrontational and will not end well.

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Altarrin is, of course, oblivious to Carissa's unspoken thoughts. He finishes his list (it's of everything he's noticed himself flinching about, in no particular order), then refers to it to make a shorter list prioritizing the things that he really needs to stop flinching about before he heads back to court to fix all of Bastran's problems. 

He's done this before. He's done it before in this lifetime, even. It's not hard, not in a way that really involves having any new thoughts, but it's still stressful. 

 

...When he's finished, he flops back beside Carissa. "I wish we could just have - a month to stop and focus on things that are important and not urgent. The world is not going to hold still for that, but..." 

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"When I'm powerful enough I can get us time dilation." 

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Crooked smile. "That would solve so many of my - not problems, exactly, but at least my petty complaints. I just, I wish I could have time to think that is not coming at the cost of all the emergencies getting worse in the meantime. ...Actually I wish I could trust the others in the Empire to keep everything under control in my absence, and not have it be the case that the place gets worse every time I am - away -" and he doesn't mean on campaign, a week away is fine, it's the gaps between incarnations that aren't and he's also tired of not being in private and never being able to talk about it directly. "I am not even sure what is missing, it always seems like the people I work with should be entirely competent enough to manage, and then I come back and there are five different new stupid problems and I am so tired of it." 

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"The only management style I am familiar with would suggest lighting them on fire more. I am not sure it actually works. The last time I took time off from my project it was immediately an unmitigated disaster." She leans against him. "The headbands help, but - not if they cause people to become heretics, and they do do that sometimes."

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"I would really not expect lighting people on fire to help! Also it would annoy the Healers, our healing is slower and also much more effort for the personnel."

Sigh. "I wish I could be running a project where 'being a heretic' was...not a thing, or did not matter...come to think of it I wish things were not set up such that Bastran is angry with me for - caring about more than just his current reign..." 

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"I'm - sort of surprised by that, actually. Maybe just because I haven't run into intra-Good disagreements before. I'd - expect him to see it."

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"...I am not sure. I think he - does not necessary endorse being angry, but he is - stressed, and scared, and - used to relying on me. He did say we could talk, later, but - he was upset. He demanded to know if I was going to - leave - before he was willing to take off my prisoner compulsions. Which is a frustrating question to be asked when you are under significant mind-affecting compulsions to prevent thinking about it." 

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"I don't - understand him well enough to not be frightened of him. Which is a problem because the thing he wants of me is for me to be - fearless, and free, and he's never going to actually set me free as that'd be foolish."

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"Would it be? do not think it would be foolish but - I suppose I have different information about you." He shakes his head. Leans into Carissa's shoulder. "I am...not afraid of him, exactly, I know him too well for that, I just - it complicates things and I have had enough of complications, I suppose." 

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"Well, I hope things get less complicated. - I don't really expect them to, they never really do."

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"No. They never really do." 

And once he's been sufficiently hugged, Altarrin will go back to drawing out a timeline of all the various horrible things that happened. There are four categories: the attack in the mine, the interval in his records cache, waking up confused and paralyzed in midair and the ensuing candlemarks of complete disorientation, and the actual interrogations. (The Gate into the Empire's suite would be on there if he remembered it; it'll still go into his records, he wants to reconstruct it as thoroughly as he can, but he recalls neither the decision nor the action.) 

 

 

...He's going to start with the third one, because Carissa is right here and he can ask her to go over the parts that he's not clear on, build a model of how this entire sequence of experiences made sense and had a good outcome, rather than just being..random unexplained awfulness. 

"Carissa? I - am trying to go through the sequence of events that happened from when I Gated into the Emperor's suite until we spoke the first time, I - was very disoriented at the time and nobody explained anything. What happened on your side of things?" 

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“You Gated in. I couldn’t read the note but I bet it didn’t say ‘all is well, stay where you are’ so I Dimension Doored straight up. Then put up some protective spells and came back to get rid of my Rope Trick before they found it and figure out what was going on. I mindread some people and learned you’d been gated to Inquiry’s secret headquarters and were dying. I hadn’t prepared spells to break you out of somewhere that was looking for me to do that… I figured I could let you die and run, or … handle it how I would if the Emperor was lawful, which is to set up communications and deescalate. I evaluated which one seemed likelier to keep me alive. If I’d known everything in the cave I think I’d have decided to let you die, but - I had no idea the extent of it, and I was worried the gods wielding thr Empire would kill me before-“ you got back - “I could make myself hard to kill. 

So, communications. I scried the Emperor and offered to save you. I told him I’d contact him again with a Gate location and they could drop you through it. Put the Gate in midair, that being where I have the most tactical advantages over local mages. I Feather Falled you, healed you, and took off immediately because it did not seem that unlikely they’d rigged you to kill me.”

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Nod. "Clever, they would not have expected that. I - do not even remember Gating in - I assume I was scrying the palace and saw something that made me think I was running out of time - or that I would be unable to reach you any other way, I was not exactly in any condition to fight my way past the Emperor's guards. It must have alarmed him very badly, though, Gating directly into his suite is supposed to be impossible - I could only do it because I designed the precautions that block it, so I was aware that they only block the most efficient search-component which is the standard taught here, and I know half a dozen other variants." 

He's slightly shivering now, involuntarily. 

"...I woke up in midair unable to move or use magic, with no idea where I was or what was happening. I - you made the right decision, I am not upset, you absolutely should not have taken any further risk, but...it was terrifying, and, I, I wish you had been there to explain..." 

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“I thought about casting Sleep first - not for your comfort, as a precaution against a Final Strike - but I thought in the extra seconds that’d add to the operation too much would go wrong. And I thought about dispelling your compulsions but - it’s be betraying the Emperor, even if I could get my compulsions to let me, so I wasn’t going to do it unless he betrayed me first.”

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"I think your decisions were very reasonable – well, once you had already made the decision to save me at all, which, again, I think we are both unsure was - strategically correct for you. But it - makes sense that it was not obvious - and," shrug, "it - does matter to me, somewhat, that I am not leaving Bastran with an enormous mess to handle alone. It - should probably have been a warning sign, how hard it was to make myself replaceable, but - things always go badly, when I am - suddenly unavailable - it would have cost thousands of lives. And...for better or worse, I suppose I am Good enough that I disprefer making him sad." 

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“That’s actually not the thing that makes me frustrated with people for being too Good. You want what you want, that’s not negotiable, being too Good is when you’re not willing to do what it takes to get it, or - can’t stop being sad about things you did or permitted.”

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"Was I really that obviously sad before? People kept - commenting on it, during the interrogations, they thought you had cast a despair spell on me or something - nobody said anything at the time!" 

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“I didn’t know it was unusual for you! I thought you were just like that as a person, until the Emperor confronted me about it. But yes, you were obviously sad. And tired. All the time.”

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He shifts over to lean against her shoulder again. 

"I was. I think - it was the plan we discussed, mostly, the - cost - only, if I had been able to think about it, I think it would - not have kept bothering me so much - there are reasons for optimism, right, it is– the plan I devised at first is a worst case scenario, if - if I had to do it without you. But with your magic it will - cost less." 

Sigh. "I still– I feel the way I feel about it, I suppose. And I would have to - get to a point where it did not bother me - to carry it out. But it - felt important, not to decide immediately to stop feeling sad about it, that would be - it would risk making it too easy to jump to compromises that I could have found a way around, if I were more motivated." Shrug. "...I am not sure. I think mostly I was - trapped. And I...still am." 

 

And he's abruptly restless, suddenly claustrophobic. He wants to see the sky. "- I need to not be underground. Will I have to loosen any of your compulsions, for you to accompany me to the surface?" 

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“I think I’m only allowed up if there’s an earthquake, so you could loosen my compulsions or cause one,” she says, with a very Asmodean deadpan.

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Altarrin snorts. Has a look around for the offending compulsion. "I should probably put it back afterward but seriously. All right - I think I saw a door to some stairs, we can go up that way and see if there is a covered area on the surface, I think otherwise it will be very cold." 

He'll lead the way. There are, in fact, stairs, in the form of a very narrow tightly-wound spiral staircase. Altarrin has to stoop. 

"...Everything is small because we have a budget for underground excavation in remote regions," he says, somewhat grumpily. "For the blood-magic to do it. Fifteen people, for research facilities - it would have been thirty, for the mine -" 

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“- bandits and murderers? Or - people who stepped on the wrong side of someone important -“

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"Murder, diversion of resources or sabotage of Imperial infrastructure leading to loss of life, violent rape causing injury. Also the highest-degree-classification of treason, which - is usually not just people who stepped on the wrong side of something important - but there is substantial discretion there. It could be, if the Emperor wished it." 

(He's kind of out of breath. It's a lot of stairs and he doesn't yet have that belt of constitution.)

 

There's a door at the top of the stairs. It has a magical lock; Altarrin palms it and releases the spell. Steps through. 

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Lets out his breath, softly. 

 

 

(They're in a dome of magic-reinforced glass. It seems to be heated, probably via a geothermal source from the faint smell in the air. There's an array of telescopes, mounted through the glass, but the air is clear and the stars are bright even to the naked eye.) 

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.....this is his harp music, Carissa is socially aware enough to notice. She goes quiet, and looks out at the stars.

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Altarrin is quiet for a long time. 

 

 

 

 

He casts a shield against scrying. Probably no one in the facility is listening, but honestly he wouldn't put it past Arbas to spy on them and cackle about it. 

"I had this place built," he says finally. "I...I almost remember it - just fragments, but."

He takes a deep breath. "- One of the only things I remember from my first life is the stars above Urtho's Tower, I– not even a specific memory, anymore, just - what I held onto to anchor the memories of - who I was, I suppose. I made a vow on the stars that I would...fix everything, and save everyone, and I would not stop until it was done, and..." 

He looks down. "You know, I think this is the first time in - this body - that I have gone anywhere just to look at the stars." 

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"Is it known here, that - they're other suns, other worlds -"

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"Well, we have not exactly been able to travel there and check for other worlds! But that they are suns like our sun, yes, though - for a time after the Cataclysm I might have been the only one on this continent who remembered it, the Haighlei are not - scientifically advanced. ...When Urtho was alive - when I was Ma'ar - it seemed imaginable that in my lifetime we would have the magic to leave this planet. I - am not going to say that I think we never will, now, but..." 

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"It's a good thing to make a vow on, if you haven't any gods."

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"I mean, we have gods! That is sort of the entire problem! They are not - really worthy of our vows, I think. I am not sure they are capable of understanding what kind of thing a mortal making a vow is." 

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"Yeah, fair. If you haven't any gods who'd be worth making a vow on, and actually helpful in fulfilling it." She reaches for his hand. "We'll get it done. Fix everything and save everyone."

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And there aren't really any words for that, so he'll just squeeze Carissa's hand, and stand close to her, and look at the stars for a long time. 

 

 

(It seems to help. In some sense that isn't quite physical but is definitely noticeable, he doesn't look tired, up here.) 

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The stars don't have special meaning to Carissa, especially, but - there's a lot out there, and that fact does. And there's a lot more that could be out there, and that does too.

 

She watches them in silence with Altarrin for as long as he wants.

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Altarrin doesn't want to spend more than a candlemark looking at the stars. ...Well, that's not entirely true. He wants to, and it's in fact soothing, but he's on a deadline. 

 

 

His method for processing traumatic experiences so they stop affecting him is going to be mostly pretty opaque and boring for Carissa to watch. He makes a lot of notes, sometimes drawing things out in boxes on his larger sheets of paper, and alternates note-taking and spending a long time sitting perfectly still, and then sometimes abruptly getting up and pacing, or asking Carissa for a hug. He somewhat belatedly remembers lunch, and will probably need reminding to remember to have dinner at all, and by mid-evening is more than ready to go to bed early. Snuggling Carissa, ideally. (He expresses that he would like it if she stayed, but as usual doesn't just demand or assume it.) 

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Carissa is kind of confused about how she is helpful with this process but she'll stay by him, and occasionally hug him, and go to bed with him. 

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(It helps because he trusts her, more or less. Also because she has a Dimension Door. His ability to Gate is vastly more useful, of course, but - right now some paranoid overly-stressed part of Altarrin's mind finds it incredibly relieving to be with someone else who has a non-Gate option for very quickly no longer being underground.) 

 

One more day of this will get him to a point where he's - not happy to be headed back, exactly, but he's up for it. He'll have a final afternoon meeting with Arbas - might as well take a report back to the Emperor in person, avoid relying too much on communication-spells - and then head back to the room he's been more or less sharing with Carissa. 

"I probably should not stay another night," he tells Carissa, early in the evening. "But - I will meet with the Emperor first thing tomorrow, and hopefully it will be straightforward to convince him that you should be allowed to craft items, and we can have Arbas fix those compulsions."

Frown. "I - would feel better if I could contact you directly. The communication-spell usually only works with mages, and I am not sure how to interface it with your magic - which would be the obvious way to go - but I think I can give you a powered artifact to receive your end of it. The part I have not been able to figure out is how to give you a way to reply, but the ability to send a one-way message is better than nothing." 

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"I'd appreciate it, yeah. If I'm allowed to make items I can make one that allows one-way communication on my end without all the delay for Sending or scrying."

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"That seems like a reasonable priority - hopefully nothing will happen where we need it, but last week it would have been very good to have more options for communication than Gating on top of you." 

And he'll show her the talisman he's cobbled together; it's a somewhat clunky quartz focus currently on a necklace, she should ideally wear it against her skin, he thinks it'll work up to his normal range but has of course only had half a candlemark to test it. 

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She puts it on. "Thank you. Good luck with the politicking."

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"I am going to need it." And he hugs her, and heads out. 

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Carissa still doesn't have crafting privileges, which means she doesn't have much to do aside from flirt with Arbas and try not to be shaped in a weird way that might interact badly with loyalty compulsions. 

She's hoping Arbas will not actually require much more flirting with. There's got to be someone on this planet who can take a hint.

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Arbas is mostly kind of hard to find, actually! He's not in the breakfast area when she heads there the next morning. Rosha, the shy Healer, claims that he's busy. 

 

He'll come find her after lunch, though. :Aren't you a lucky girl. Either the Emperor's still sweet on you or Altarrin is very persuasive. I've gotten new orders that you're to be allowed to craft items again. And prepare whichever spells you like., too As long as you stay where you're supposed to like a good girl, of course – I'll be making sure of that, since as usual no one but me is capable of being paranoid enough around here. You'll tell me how much spellsilver you want and I'll bring it to your room. ...Oh, and I'm to give you back your Ring of Sustenance, too. You really are lucky to have Altarrin sticking up for you, you know: 

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:I want five pounds of spellsilver to make Altarrin a bunch of defensive magic items. The Detect Thoughts thing I owe him and the belt of Constitution and then some tries at the False Life thing.:

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Eyeroll. :Surely you can do those one at a time. I'll give you enough for the Detect Thoughts item to start with: 

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:All right. 


You know, Abrogail would have a devil on hand to hurt me every half hour I didn't exceed my previous top pace for crafting.:

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:Should be fine.:

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Then Arbas will get that for her, and return the Ring of Sustenance, before disappearing again. He seems like he might be stressed about something or other, but doesn't volunteer an explanation. 

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She's going to not worry about it. It makes sense that if she's up here for months as a hostage/whatever else she is, then the Emperor's personal interrogator will be needed elsewhere for some stretches of that, maybe even most of them, and if he's just trying to mess with her head then she has enough dignity to make him try something more distinguishing than 'being busy'.

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The "Arbas is busy" hypothesis seems plausible. She doesn't even see him again at all, that day. 

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And then, in the early hours of the next morning, the communication-spell artifact wakes her. 

 

<Carissa. This is Altarrin. Emperor is dead. I cannot come to you but you are in danger you need to get out now> 

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800 feet straight up will take her to nearly 500 feet above the ice sheet. It's a clear dark starry night, with a half-full moon out; the dim moonlight shows only ice and snow in all directions. It's windy and bitterly cold. 

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Fly. She also has invisibility and Gaseous Form but she might want to save those for pursuit, if there's pursuit - Altarrin can probably beat the pursuit here, and probably Gate to his own item he gave her, she just needs to stay alive until then -

 

- the Emperor's dead -

 

- this is her fault -

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As of yet there's no sign of pursuit. Or Altarrin. 

 

It's really really cold. Carissa is not at all dressed for subzero temperatures and these temperatures are a lot further below zero than it ever gets anywhere in Cheliax. But her flight is unimpeded. 

 

...After about eight and a half minutes, when she's just about a mile from her starting point, the compulsions tug, and then tug harder, and then further progress is impossible. They had an exception carved out to let her get away from immediate danger, but she really isn't allowed to just keep running

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She can prepare protection from the elements. It'll take about twenty minutes but - she will probably still be conscious and functional in twenty minutes. The Worldwound gets this cold. It does kill you, but it doesn't kill you instantly, if you keep moving and you don't get wet.

 

Altarrin'll come for her. It's not surprising that it's taking a little while; he is, presumably, trying to become Emperor, or install somebody - probably just become Emperor - she could help him with that but he knows what his resources are, he'll make good use of them - 

- she's so cold -

She lands, before the Fly runs out. Starts building a scaffold for her spells for the day. Weather protection is the thing she most immediately needs to not die, but also - scrying, obviously, lots of scrying.

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She did not actually get enough of a full night's sleep to prepare spells today. 

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Well. Fuck. 

She will… keep moving, so she doesn’t freeze, and contemplate whether to surrender or not, if Altarrin isn’t here in the next few minutes. …probably yes. It will be really inconvenient for him, for her to be in other hands, but she doesn’t think he’d have her die over it; she isn’t all that useful to hurt him. Anyway even if he’d rather she die, she’s not going to, she doesn’t love him that much.

 

She starts trudging back towards the facility. 

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Moving overland is much, much slower than flying. She's only made it several hundred feet when a Gate blazes in the distance.

 

It looks like multiple people are coming through. From this distance, and in the dim moonlight, she can't tell if any of them are Altarrin. They start to spread out, maybe searching. 

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She’ll put up Invisibility and hide. …until she stops feeling cold. Once it gets that far she needs to surrender.

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She can remain unnoticed for another few minutes, mostly feeling colder - she's shivering uncontrollably now - 

 

 

- and then there's another Gate-terminus glow, and a few seconds later the other end of it snaps up twenty feet from her. Several people spill through. Mages, presumably, since one of them immediately casts a hemispherical barrier-shield fifty feet wide, trapping her. 

If she doesn't have Tongues up, she won't be able to understand what they're saying, but they don't sound friendly. 

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Well, they didn't immediately Final Strike, so there's that.

 

She's not going to successfully escape, here.

 

Altarrin knows what he's doing. Hopefully. Probably.

 

She kneels, and raises her hands in the air, and kicks herself to break the Invisibility.

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Several pairs of eyes spin to fix on her. Two men, in winter gear, with masks covering their faces; the third mage is a very tall, muscular woman, more lightly dressed, maybe keeping herself warm with magic. 

She barks something to one of the men, who throws a paralysis-spell at Carissa, then a bolt of force that knocks her flat to the ground. 

It's hard to tell exactly what happens, from there, since Carissa spends the next minute with her face pressed into the ice. They relocate the other end of their current Gate, apparently, or cast another, because when they drag Carissa through - they aren't gentle about it - she's back underground. It's hard to tell for sure if it's the same underground facility or not. The particular hallway, and the tiny stone cell that they throw her into (and they're not gentle about that either), aren't familiar. 

 

The men leave. The woman doesn't. She asks Carissa questions that Carissa can't understand, except that sometimes Altarrin's name features, and once 'Bastran.' 

It seems to make her angry, that Carissa, still unable to move on the stone floor, can't answer. She kicks her. Eventually, with an irritated growl, throws a low-powered levinbolt at her. It's not like Abrogail. There's no artistry toward causing pain, here, just bored frustration. 

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This is not a situation where you should be as cooperative as possible because you can't withhold anything and might as well have no traceable intent in your thoughts to cause trouble.


This is a situation where you wait for Altarrin to handle his shit and come get you, and in the meantime try to be as uninteresting and unimportant as possible.

 

There's not even that much she can do towards that end, not speaking the language, but she tries to think of nothing except being cold and scared.

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If they have a Thoughtsenser at all, they don’t let it on. The woman gives up on actually asking her anything fairly quickly, and just uncreatively hurts Carissa for a while, and eventually storms out and locks the door behind her, leaving Carissa alone, bruised and bleeding, in darkness. 

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Some indeterminate length of time later, there are timid footsteps outside. Gruff voices, on the other side of the door. 

 

...The scrape of wood on stone as the door opens, and then Rosha crouching at Carissa's side. For a minute, there's just the cool touch of Velgarth Healing-Gift. 

Then a brush of Mindspeech, again with the feeling of strain, like someone shouting distantly from several rooms over and struggling to be heard. 

(Mindspeech, unlike the communication spell through which Altarrin warned her, comes with overtones. Rosha is upset and very, very scared and, as a note behind those, faintly indignant.) 

:I told them you couldn't prepare the spell to speak the language because of the compulsions. Abras knows that isn't true but I– he wasn't in a cooperative mood and he's good at compulsions on himself - I think they believed me for now. I don't think they know I have Thoughtsensing, either. ...How badly do you need Healing?: 

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- I don't need Healing. She has....what would actually be a distinctly lethal range of injuries on a normal person, at this point, you can't just Jolt commoners indefinitely. She'll be fine. 

I need you to remove my compulsion on not escaping. I swear to you, I won't abandon the Empire, I won't abandon you or Arbas, but I need to get out of here and sleep and prepare spells to be any use to anyone. I can take you with me, if you can get back to me in....thirty minutes, or make it look like it'll take that long to Heal me.

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:...You sort of look like you need at least that much Healing, I can say that honestly, I don't know how you're even - functioning - um. I can't take your compulsions off myself. I think any of the mages can do it and they'll probably believe me if I tell them the compulsion on escaping specifically also means you can't do magic and talk, but they're - they're not going to take it off you and then leave us alone. And I don't even know how you're thinking we could get out of here?: 

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I can make an item of Teleport. In half an hour, I've done that before. I can probably make one I don't need to move to activate, and it'll take you too if you're holding my hand. I can probably make it repurposing my Ring of Sustenance. The only problem is the compulsion to only go to the surface. If you can convince them to remove it, then we're fine. 

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:...All right. Can you make the item now and then I'll ask them once I'm supposed to be done healing you? I think they'd send me out after and I - I don't want to be stuck here -: 

She takes a deep breath. :Also. Um. Where are we...going. I have no idea where'd be safe, Altarrin would've been here by now if he - had freedom of movement...: 

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Yep, I gathered that. We're going to a secret place he took me once, where I think we can hide until I can prepare spells and get him out, if he's alive. If he's not, then we - wait until things have settled down. We're not abandoning the Empire; we're not doing it any good here helping apprentices practice Jolt.

 

I can make the item now. Warn me if there's a Thoughtsenser, I can't always tell.

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:I don't think they have one on site yet - might not be very many who Count Mavros trusts, that's– I mean no one's said but I recognize the woman, she's his... I'll keep a lookout. I can't really, um. Do anything else.: 

(Carissa will recognize Mavros as the noble family of the general who initially restored order after the coup by the former Emperor's barber and ensuing chaos, the one from the Personal History with the unreasonable number of children. There were Mavroses mentioned among the relevant courtiers to keep track of, both by Altarrin and Merda. Altarrin didn't like them.) 

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Carissa tells her compulsions very firmly that they bind her to Bastran, not to whoever happens to briefly put on his hat. She's not actually having trouble, though.

If you tell me I'll stop thinking, she says, and then she breaks her Ring of Sustenance - which sucks, she's going to have to remake it and it's going to take a long time, but at least it still hadn't kicked in - and tries to beat her previous record for an item of Teleport while also making it have an activation trigger that she can manage while paralyzed. You generally have to move them, or speak to them, but it's just completing an incomplete circuit and it ought to be possible to do manually -

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She is not interrupted before she can finish it! 

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And Rosha is able to get some amount of Healing done. 

:Are you ready for me to go, uh, tell someone you'll talk if they take off your compulsion against escaping?: she sends when Carissa looks like she's done. 

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You think they'll go for it? Carissa hasn't been thinking about that. She can think and craft at the same time if she's not in a hurry but not if she is in a hurry, and she currently is in a hurry. I guess if they don't we'll figure something else out. Where's Arbas - is there anyone else here you trust -

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:Dunno if they'll go for it, I guess it depends how much they know already and how badly they need to question you for the rest? I dunno where they put Arbas, either, they hauled him off under a pile of compulsions and I - there wasn't anything I could do, m'not a mage...:  I - don't think we can trust the other two mages - they were loyal to Bastran but, if he's not...:

She trails off. :I don't think they'd take risks to help us. Arbas would if he could but they do know about his Gifts, they're not going to leave him any openings: 

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They can't know that much about me or they'd be being more careful with me.... okay. Our options are...try convincing them to remove half my compulsions, if it might work and it's not going to get you killed. Advantage to that plan is if it works we can be out of here six seconds later. Disadvantage is they'd have to be idiots, which they probably are, but still -

Second option, I can maybe make something for Arbas, which dispels - all his compulsions, but she can't squeeze that thought through the bars in her head - those precautions they'd have taken that'd prevent him from serving the Empire. You'd have to bring it to him and activate it, and it'd depend how closely he's guarded, it'll be really really visible, all my magic is. Alternatively I could -

Do it to myself, but she can't think that at all, just a slippery wall where there's obviously an idea that'd solve the whole problem. I could give it to you and you could figure out what seems like a good idea to do with it, she manages eventually. You have my oath, I'm not going to abandon the Empire, I'll serve the Empire and keep you and Arbas safe if I can.

Third option, I try to teach you how to use this single-use Teleport item I made, and you hold onto me and activate it right now. The problem with that is that then we're in a different location but I'm just as stuck and you can't fix it. So that's only a good option if we think Altarrin's alive and will be able to help in the next two days, or if you have other allies you could call who'll be free and able to help us.

 

I don't suppose you have spellsilver. I'll need quite a lot of it if we try the second option. I have a way I can do it but I hate it.

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Rosha fidgets. 

:I don't think they'll kill me for - suggesting it - even if they don't go for it, they might - hit me, but I'm a Healer. Um. I don't think I can get anything to Arbas, there. And I know where Arbas was storing your things that we'd retrieved, I think the spellsilver would be there, but it's in a Work Room and they're guarding it, I won't be able to get to it. Arbas could get in, if he were - able to help us - he could just Gate straight there and then to you...: 

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Okay.

 

Why don't you try suggesting that they loosen my compulsions, and stay right here. If I'm free to Teleport then I'll tell you to grab my hand and we'll go.

If that fails, I'm going to make...

 

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- if I made something that undid - the magic that's imprisoning people - would you be - able to use it - on me - 

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:I...um...probably not...? I could - they're not stopping me from - saying things that are misleading if they aren't lies - and I think it'd let me hold your hand even if you said you were escaping - I don't think it'd let me do...something more active: 

 

Rosha looks very nervous, but after a moment straightens her spine. :I'll go tell them you're healed enough to talk now and suggest the thing about the compulsions: 

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Carissa had been trying to mostly ignore the burns - they're, in fact, not going to kill her, and there's not a lot of point paying attention to things that aren't going to kill her - but she has to fight back a wave of dizzy agony when Rosha stops the Healing. 

Doesn't matter. The only thing that matters is staying alive. 

The other option, which she didn't point out to Rosha, is being sweet and useful when they get around to interrogating her, impressing them with all this magic they can now command, and hoping that works.

Making it clear to them how valuable she is closes all the other options off, conceivably forever.

Altarrin said 'get out', but she's not sure if that's because he thought he'd be able to pick her up by now or because he thought it was better to risk escaping than risk these people.

These people aren't careful and Carissa's not very good at being small anymore. 

 

This Emperor seems very likely to be a very temporary Emperor. It's not Altarrin, who could probably have held the throne if he'd taken it, what with all of the sheer magical skill and reputation for having the sheer magical skill and the history of service to the Empire. It's not one of the Mage-Generals, so they'll be noting which regional lords are in open revolt -

-yeah, she doesn't think trying to slip in under the wing of this new Emperor is the path to survival. She's probably sufficient to win a civil war for him while wielded non-stupidly - she could pull off so many assassinations with the right equipment -- but so far all signs point to stupid, and she doesn't want to be used for assassinations -- and so it's safest to get out and wait for the dust to settle. 

 

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Rosha comes back a few minutes later with the same woman from before. She points at Carissa, still on the floor. Some words are exchanged, that Carissa still can't understand. The woman looks irritated again, and cuffs Rosha across the face, knocking her back into the stone wall.

 

Rosha catches herself, tries to catch Carissa's eye and fling her an apologetic-and-pleading look, and then shuffles out, dabbing at her bleeding nose with her sleeve. 

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The woman leans on the wall and picks at her nails while looking at Carissa in the unfocused way that some mages (who are less practiced and subtle than Altarrin) tend to when they're using mage-sight. 

She makes a scoffing sound, and then Carissa feels some of the compulsions loosen. It feels like mostly the...higher level ones, that affect planning or reasoning directly? 

The woman leaves the compulsion against traveling more than a mile from the facility in place. In fact, she slaps on another, even cruder anti-escape compulsion, which seems to more or less block Carissa from thinking directly about the concept of escape. It's clearly narrow, not particularly bothering to block routes around it, but it's surprisingly obnoxious. 

 

The woman folds her arms and looks expectantly at Carissa, raising her eyebrows. 

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- not a shocking outcome but definitely not high in a list of outcomes by how much Carissa likes them.

And it makes her temporarily lose track of the plan - no, no, the plan is fine because the plan is not to escape, the plan is to go to Altarrin and serve the Empire, which is not escaping at all. Carissa has sworn not to escape and so it doesn't matter that this compulsion also doesn't want her to. Her efforts are directed at going to where she's helpful. To the Empire, to Altarrin.

 

Can she, in fact, cast Tongues. 

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She can! She only has one left from yesterday and won't be able to prepare more today, but she was already free to prepare and cast whatever she wants as long as it wasn't for escaping. 

 

The woman blinks, but doesn't even look impressed by the unfamiliar magic. She sneers at Carissa. "Altarrin's pet. ...He's not coming for you, you know, in case you were still hoping for that like some idiot. ...So. What's your magic good for, anyway?" 

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Her eyes brim with tears at Altarrin’s name; that’s not hard. “He’ll come for me.” Which is to say I want you to say more about his status and I bet you’re not a very good liar.

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The woman's lip curls. "Trust me, sweetie, the Emperor's got him sewn up tight in Jacona. And he wants you alive, apparently. Don't think it's worth the trouble, personally, but if we can keep Altarrin on a leash by agreeing not to have his pet heretic executed, well, you're not causing any trouble here. Unless you plan to start, but I wouldn't recommend that." 

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- headshake.

That’s - probably not a lie; why tell it? And it fits; if you’re trying to seize the throne you don’t want to kill Altarrin; he’s one of the only pieces of credibility in reach. 

What’s Carissa’s next question here - what they already know about her -

”- Altarrin said I’ve got a Wild Gift. I didn’t know it was that rare - my sister could do it too -“ an inconsistency with a record this woman probably hasn’t read. And not false; she’s not sure if she’s compulsioned not to lie but it’s not that hard not to.

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"Heard that one. Heard some weirder shit, too - was all that Altarrin's idea? There was a rumor you could mind-control people without it showing up to mage-sight, which I've got to say is idiotic too, if you could do that I'm sure you'd be off to save your boyfriend." She kicks Carissa in the ribs. "Though it's not impossible you're still useful enough to be worth the hassle, so - what can you do?" 

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She whimpers, takes a moment to catch her breath. Sometimes when people want to hurt you they'll be satisfied at an indication they've done so, and besides she wants to think. 

"I can make - artifacts that don't need repowering, that copy mind-gifts. There's - materials for me in one of the Work Rooms. The Emperor - I mean, the old Emperor - he was - having some kind of dispute with Altarrin so he wanted to hold me here but he still wanted me to make him things - they can do translation, and Thoughtsensing -"

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The woman kicks her again. "What about the headpieces? Altarrin supposedly had one that makes him better at politics, or something – does it really, or were you faking?" 

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" - please - I wasn't lying to Altarrin, would you lie to Altarrin? I can do the headbands but - that's what got people saying I was mind controlling people - they don't do mind control, they just mean you think of the thing you meant to say on the spot instead of hours later -" 

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"Oh really." The woman does not sound especially convinced. "And what about the one that supposedly makes you wise? There's a rumor it also made Altarrin hate himself, which really, girl, sounds like fireballing yourself in the foot there." 

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This is a surprisingly frustrating conversation and it's not the being repeatedly kicked in the ribs. It's only half the pretending she is a bad liar and confused and stupid. The other half is - 

- the sense that this just isn't, really, how humans go about things that matter - and peoples' lives matter -

"You can - try the headband if you want - I assume Altarrin still has it - I think - I think the Emperor - the old Emperor - was upset with Altarrin and that's why he had people look into the headbands, and it wasn't actually really about the headbands, it'd've been something else - you should probably just ask Altarrin, actually -"

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"Should I."

(The woman is not, in fact, acting like this is something that especially matters. She's acting like Carissa is an irritating duty that's been foisted on her, one she's carrying out because she was ordered to and not especially because she cares about the end result, and is bored and trying to entertain herself while she gets it over with.) 

"The Thoughtsensing one, then. Is it any good?" 

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"It has a shorter range than most people with the Gift, but it works. I can do one for the Emperor, if he wants."

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"Hmm." This is apparently at least slightly intriguing. "What sorts of materials? And how long's it take you?" 

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"Takes about a week. I need a special ore called spellsilver. There's some in the other room, or it can be mined at the northern mine the gods blew up..."

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Scoff. "Sounds like it can't be mined there, actually. What about for translation -?" 


The woman has a few more minutes of questions for Carissa, and several more kicks. She continues to not seem very much like she especially cares about the answers, or whether Carissa dies of internal bleeding on the floor of her cell. 

Eventually she locks the door again and leaves Carissa lying in the darkness. 

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Okay. That went well, in that she got confirmation that Altarrin is alive, that she was sent for as leverage over him rather than because the new Emperor has any comprehension of what she is, she's not in fact dying of internal bleeding though she would be very much dead if she were a normal mortal, and they didn't take her headband.

That went poorly, in that she doesn't have either her compulsions lifted or access to Arbas. Or spellsilver.

 

Well, she has spellsilver. She has enough spellsilver to give Rosha invisibility and nondetection and gaseous form (this is not a known thing magic items can do, not all three at once, but she thinks she needs all three) ...and to give her something she can hand to Arbas that dispels his compulsions.

 

It's just - in her headband, and that's going to suck.

Also she needs a plan in advance because halfway through she won't remember it and - she's so tired of having to thread herself through the eye of so many needles -

 

She will give herself the luxury of twenty minutes trying to think of a plan that isn't that.

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Rosha creeps into the room shortly before the interval is up. 

:They’re not going to leave me alone with you for long, but - I snuck you some food, here: She slides a hand-sized loaf of bread out of her sleeve. :There's a pitcher of water in the corner but I'm not sure they were actually going to get around to feeding you tonight and you need to eat: 

More Healing. Carissa has some new broken ribs to deal with even if she is miraculously not actually dying of internal bleeding. 

:I. Um. So I guess that didn't work. And I definitely can't get near Arbas, I tried – and they're guarding the supply room, they're not that stupid. Do we have...another plan...?: 

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Yes. Two of them, actually. I'm just still thinking about whether either of them are a better plan that staying here.

Plan one is that I make my headband into an item of sending, by which you communicate with some other claimant to the Empire who we'd rather back, if you know of one, or - I"m not sure if this will work, I was just trying to think of everything I was thinking of - someone like Altarrin's top compulsion is to obey a direct Imperial order, right -

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:Should be. ....Um. I - wouldn't be surprised if his second compulsion is something like to kill himself if the new Emperor claimant dies. That's happened before - they put it on all the really senior mages and generals, so they - don't have an incentive to plot a countercoup...: 

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Right, okay. Well, I was considering advising you to use the shapeshifting hat to change voices, if you know the new Emperor at all, and an item of Sending to command him to remove his compulsions. I'm not sure how much he'd have to believe it, how much doubt would be enough.

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:Um. I...think my compulsions would let me, it's clearly– it's as much being loyal to Bastran as anything can be, anymore. But. I've never heard of that being tried and I expect people would've tried it if it worked? And I haven't heard Count Mavros' voice all that many times and don't think I could get his manner very convincingly. ...Also I'd need to get into the supply room somehow, I think it must be there with the spellsilver.: 

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Yeah. The simpler plan - or, well, the crafting is going to be interesting, I don't think there's even an item that does this and you're not really supposed to just invent them on the fly - is something that makes you invisible, undetectable, and for a few minutes at a time gaseous, so you can slip in there and get me spellsilver for a separate item which casts Dispel Magic on the bearer, which you will give to Arbas. I...think he can probably take this facility back from there. 

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:Oh. I -: shiver, :that might actually work - um - can I carry things while I'm gaseous?: 

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You can wear them. And items can be given a command-word activation; you just speak it. Arbas won't be able to help you, obviously. 

 

I'm going to be melting down my headband in order to make it. This is a really complicated item, I'm in a hurry and will make mistakes and lose some of the spellsilver. Without the headband, I'm going to be stupider, and - 

- I am not totally sure what to expect Arbas's priorities to be, with Bastran gone. Do you - have a better sense of him -

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:I, he's....not like Altarrin. I don't know who or what he's loyalty to other than Bastran, especially without his compulsions, Altarrin - put a lot of thought into slotting him somewhere he wouldn't, um, be a problem. ...He's going to be angry. I think he'll want the new Emperor dead just for vengeance, and - I think he likes Altarrin all right, I don't think that's just loyalty compulsions, I think he'd probably want to help get Altarrin out. I don't think he'll kill either of us for fun or anything. I'm - not sure of anything more than that, though: 

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Well. 

No hopes, no dreams, no comforting lies, just bets you'll take, trades you'll make, questions that further thinking won't further clarify.

 

I'm going to do it. I don't know how long it'll take. Probably most of a week, which means I'll need you to - keep me alive - I'll try to do it in neat subdivisions so that if you realize partway through that we're out of time I'll at least have the Dispel Magic bit done for you and, if I've slept, prepare and cast Invisibility and Nondetection and Gaseous Form the normal way. 

I'm having trouble breathing, probably because I'm very scared though the ribs can't be helping. Can you - put me to sleep, actually - I'm going to want to prepare spells to get started on any of these items - 

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:I can do that. And - get you food, if they're not feeding you enough - I can say you're too badly hurt to talk and I need to Heal you every day. Um, it's not evening yet, I don't think, but..I can put you to sleep:

 

Sleep. 

 

They leave Carissa alone, except that someone does, at some point, bring some coarse bread and more water into the cell. 

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Then in the morning she will force herself to eat it.

And spend ten seconds, she counts them, being really, really sad, about this headband, her headband, the first +6 item she created. Things that powerful aren't just about following a precise formula. She'll make another one, but it won't be this one, any more than an artist who made a stunning sculpture will, next time they make a sculpture, make the same one. 

She knew all along there was very little she wouldn't trade to survive. But she's sure having to trade -  

- whatever. 

 

Carissa weaves some magic about her head, and takes a deep breath, and makes her +6 headband of Intelligence shatter in her hands - not her hands, actually, she still mostly can't move very well and is not crafting by moving - shatter in her metaphorical grip, until it's just spellsilver, just a lot of spellsilver, which she has some plans for.

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Rosha brings her a blanket, that morning, and even a pillow (with a slit in the case, to hide her work in progress if someone comes in, because Rosha doesn't think she can persuade them to leave Carissa alone the entire time.) She has a new black eye. She's brought some more food including two peeled boiled eggs.

And an update: she's pretty sure she knows where they're keeping Arbas, and that despite their attempts to interrogate him they still haven't managed to glean anything about just how much of a threat Carissa is; Arbas probably had a chance to put compulsions on himself first and he outclasses them by far. She still definitely can't get to him without, well, cheating. She hopes he's not too badly injured. 

She does a bit more Healing on Carissa's ribs before one of the guards, face unseen, yells at her to get out. 

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Carissa for her part is just lying here, evidently grievously injured, doing nothing; surely they can't find too much fault in that?

 

 

And she is figuring out from first principles how to do combination-spell items. She's not even trying the final product, yet, just something that can do Prestidigitation and also Mage Hand; the principle should generalize, once she understands it. (She'd get it faster if she were smarter.) She's being careful, not burning any spellsilver yet; she doesn't know the budget for this project yet and so doesn't know how much margin for error she has.

 

She grieves. More for the headband than for Bastran, if she's honest with herself, but - for him too. He shouldn't be dead. People shouldn't be dead, and she - knew that one in particular. Feared him, but liked him. She would have taken...some chance of death for him. Not a ten percent chance. 

 

He took some chance of death for her. It's in fact probably because of her, because he tried to meet her conditions, that things got so far out of control that -

- okay, maybe she'd have taken a ten percent chance of death for him.

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They mostly leave her alone.

 

Around once a day, at completely random intervals, someone will storm in and check Carissa's compulsions, either the woman or another mage, a man with a nose broken at least twice in the past and an ugly scar down his cheek. The other mage is often in a bad enough mood to kick Carissa a few times or thwack her with more low-powered levinbolts if she isn't quite prompt enough in acknowledging his presence.

On one occasion he paralysis-spells her and gropes her breasts for a minute or so, before someone yells at him from outside the room and he makes an exasperated sound and leaves. 

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Lucky of him! She would in fact probably have murdered him about that, later, if he hadn't been interrupted; she's not gotten so unbearably Good as to find the observation that he doesn't deserve to die compelling - 

- maybe she kind of is, ugh -

- well, luckily she doesn't need to decide because nothing happened. 

 

 

She's - baffled by the random violence, it doesn't quite make sense to her. Do these people just kill a significant fraction of their prisoners? Are commoners tougher than she's imagining? Does it reduce escape rates if you're mildly incompetent at compulsions, to additionally throw some torture in? 

 

The real answer is of course probably that torture is a skill and the Church of Asmodeus provided more structured avenues in which to train in it. Though Abrogail thought none of them were any good at it either, and they had the advantage of good magical healing that made the tradeoffs less stark, between inflicting pain and having a functional subject...

None of this is a useful line of thought for dumb Carissae. Dumb Carissae should be narrower, smaller, predictable-to-smart-Carissae. Dumb Carissae should grit their teeth and craft.

 

 

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(The staff seem mostly very annoyed about having to deal with guarding Carissa. Or annoyed in general, maybe, or - just tense and stressed and letting off steam.)  

 

Rosha brings her food and does Healing when she can. And, four days in (probably? it's hard to keep track of time when they're all underground. Four sleeps, anyway, might be more days than that if Carissa's circadian rhythm is forward-shifting), a warning. 

:I think they're getting antsy. Maybe something's wrong in the capital? I haven't been able to overhear anything useful and I'm not a strong enough Thoughtsenser to get through shields. They could just be in trouble with their superiors for not managing to get anything more useful out of Arbas yet. Ummm. How - close are you - on the plan -?:  

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I have an item of Dispel Magic for you. You press it to his skin and say "Bastran". I - don't have the rest. I'm - it's too complicated to do badly and expect it still to work - I can, if you want, just make you invisible and undetectable and gaseous right now, and you can bring the item to him, it might be worth doing that. But I need another two days, probably, to have the actually elegant  - I've been calling it the necklace of vanishing. Activate it and you're gone to magic, gone to physical attacks, gone to vision. 

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- it's going to be extremely cool -

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But if we don't have time - the only problem with the plan where I do it with spells right this minute is that they'll notice your absence and Arbas'll have less time to do his thing -

- you need to - damn it, I'm still probably smarter than you - 

- imagine nothing's wrong in Jacona. How surprised would you be, by their behaving the way they're behaving? Is it notably out of the ordinary, imagining nothing's wrong?

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:I, um. Let me think: 

Rosha frowns hard for a minute. 

:Not that surprised? And it might not even be the sort of something wrong that'd affect us, here, I wouldn't be very surprised if they were stressed about - maybe not getting promoted, or something - and not anything higher stakes than that? Umm. I think I can keep them off you for two days, if I say someone must've been careless and you're more badly injured now. And I - can probably get enough warning if something is really badly wrong to come back then so you can cast the spells? Just. If you can hurry...: 

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This is a yearlong research project for a seventh-circle magic items specialist and I'm doing it in a week in a cage with several broken ribs and no Ring of Sustenance, she does not say. It doesn't matter.

The world isn't measuring against what would be considered impressive back home. The world isn't measuring anything. It isn't impressed with her. It's just a grinding slow stupid thing that will kill her by default, not even trying to.

I'll try to hurry.

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And Rosha can buy her two days of no one harassing her at all - they still come in to check her compulsions once a day but they don't touch her - and extra food, and as much Healing as she can manage. 

 

She's clearly very very stressed - and the people who check on Carissa are very cranky - but nothing explodes. Yet. 

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You can make magic items that incorporate multiple spells. It's common. Carissa's seen plenty of them. Usually the magic item does something that's an interweaving of the several spells, it doesn't literally just cast the spells for you. The form in which wizards prepare and stabilize spells is not always the form in which they sit most naturally in spellsilver. Part of the item development process, for really powerful items, is figuring out where the spells are interfering and where they're overlapping, what they stably want to do.

She doesn't have any time for that. But while with weak items you can generally make them badly fast, powerful items also don't work if you were wrong about something along the way, and if your conception wasn't crystal-clear (even if it was) there'll be something wrong along the way. You need something that coheres, you need something that works with itself, and you need something whose use of its every constituent element you ironed out until every piece you lay in place supports the whole.

A necklace of vanishing draws on the commonality among its constituent spells - which is, magically, more complicated than 'they all hide you' - one's an illusion, one's an abjuration, one's a transmutation, magic does not think these spells are all doing the same thing. 

She had the concept in mind before she melted her headband. She has clung to it, through the last week, even though some pieces of it she can't remember how she conceived them. And some pieces didn't work and she had to painstakingly fix her error -

 

She feels raw, empty, scraped out inside and spat upon the ground. She wants to never think again, never move again. She wants Keltham. She wants her mother. 

 

 

Ready, she tells Rosha. The activation word for this one is also Bastran. Several people she has known disapprove of her password security policies and she does not care.

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:How do I, um, make sure to activate the right one, if they're both the same word? Is it just the one I'm holding at the time– also, um, can I un-gassify in Arbas cell or do I somehow need to hold the Dispel Magic on him while I'm still a gas - I mean if it works it'll be fine if I can't sneak back out of his cell again but if it doesn't work...: 

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The gaseous form lasts five minutes at a time. I am aware this is inconvenient; making it at-will is way harder. You should activate both of them by holding them up to your face and speaking the command word while it's in your hand; for the Dispel you need to also touch it to Arbas. 

It's entirely possible it'll dispel her compulsions too but Carissa's going to just not tell her that.

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:All right. And if it...doesn't work...hopefully I can sneak out again and they won't have been watching the room and know it was me...:

Deep steadying breath. :I'm - going to try it tonight. When I can sneak directly out of my bed, so they won't notice I've disappeared. I– if I get caught I don't think I'll be able to - warn you - but I'll be really really careful: 

And after a bit more Healing - Carissa's ribs are barely twinging at all now - she'll head out. 

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Carissa has nothing to do with herself except be unsuspicious. It's a weird feeling. She casts some cantrips, just for the practice - she's got to be coming up on sixth circle now, and that means Antimagic Field, and she has no idea how to build or stabilize that but it'll be the most useful spell ever, once she has it. She should start thinking about what a research process for sixth circle spells should even look like, in this world where there's no one to learn from and the coolest ones - antimagic field, contingency - aren't extensions of spells she already has. 

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Candlemarks pass.

If things are happening in the rest of the facility, Carissa can't hear them from here. 

 

- and then, with no particular warning, the door bangs open. A mage-light flares. Arbas swaggers into the room. 

:Well, well, well. What a clever girl you are. And here I'd been assuming you were just being a useless lump waiting for your sweet Altarrin to rescue you:

There's a dangerous glitter in Arbas' eyes, as he squats beside Carissa. :- Dear gods, they hurt you incompetently. That's against the rules. I'd offer to murder them for it only I already did that: He laughs. It's a dangerous laugh. :Oh well. We can still make the people who ordered them here pay for it, though I will need your help for that: 

He undoes some of her compulsions - not the obnoxious loyalty-compulsion, but all the other mind-affecting ones, including the block around thinking directly about the concept of escape. He picks her up, with surprising gentleness. 

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Arbas can have a tight hug, even though she's not actually sure that killing those people was remotely necessary. "No need to have killed those people" is in general a dangerous opinion to express, and she doesn't, actually, know what the need was.

And they're about to intervene in a civil war which will require killing way more people, and she doesn't want to seem squeamish. 

I want to get Altarrin out. We can kill the usurper, too, if that's what you want to do, but - my top priority is getting Altarrin out.

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Arbas laughs. It's not a very pleasant laugh. It's unclear if it's because he's reading her mind and picked up on the thought about not wanting to seem squeamish. 

:If you insist, sweetie. Suppose he's not completely useless. Mind you, I don't know how we'll get him out. Couldn't get a scry through on his suite proper but they're keeping him under guard: 

He turns down another hallway, sending the mage-light ahead of him. :Oh, to sleep in a bed again!: The bedroom he brings her to is pretty clearly his. He sets her down on the bed. :Do I need to find our pretty little Healer for you?: 

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She is, somehow, surprised, even though she absolutely shouldn’t be, wouldn’t have been if she’d thought ahead at all. No more carelessness, Carissa; you’re not actually through the part of this where you need to play your cards very carefully. The pattern is tempting, of letting impaired Carissa just stick to the plan, but she’s in fact still the most intelligent mind bent toward her goals, and at some point it’s just laziness, not using that -

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Manipulating Arbas is a strange game because he can of course watch every stage of her doing it, and interfere with any of it he likes. She doesn’t feel impaired right now, but that barely counts as evidence. 

She wants him to be - fond of her, and safe and reliable while they prepare for the next stage of this - Rosha wasn’t sure what he’d really care about, with Bastran and his compulsions gone -

- but he still cares about her. Apparently.

”I think I have a couple bruises,” she says. “You’d better fetch me the finest imperial healers immediately.”

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:You're cute, you know: He tucks her in under the blanket. Strokes her hair, his expression somewhere between fond and entertained. :Personally I'd like to burn Jacona to the ground, but I suppose if you insist we can make off with some of those fine imperial Healers first. Get some sleep. We'll need a lot of scrying out of you tomorrow: 

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- that feels safe, as safe as anything can feel when she doesn't have a headband and doesn't have anyone in power who wants her alive. She smiles vaguely at him. 

She wants to tell him something - that they had better not burn Jacona to the ground, she's still loyal to the Empire and anyway that's a lot of people who will stop existing - that this is her fault - that she burned her headband - but he knows all of those things, of course.

 

- she is, in fact, exhausted. 

 

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Arbas presumably spends some of the time that she's asleep doing other things elsewhere in the compound.

He must have slipped back in sometime during the night, though, because by the time she wakes up, he's sprawled out asleep in the bed next to her. 

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Carissa wants to TRY TO PREPARE A SIXTH CIRCLE SPELL. 

 

She is limited in options here because she doesn't know any sixth circle spells. There are some techniques that move a spell up a circle in exchange for making it longer-lasting or more flexible, but she doesn't actually know those either. 

Well, time to learn. 

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Arbas wakes up around a candlemark into these efforts. Watches her curiously, without interrupting just yet. 

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Carissa is very clever and very stubborn but she's not going to hack 'making your spells last twice as long by taking them up a circle' on the first day of trying. After a couple candlemarks she'll give up and just prepare tons of scries like she's supposed to. 

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Arbas wanders off while she's doing that. Comes back with breakfast – a whole spread, this time, bread with butter and fruit and boiled eggs and salted meat. 

:I did some of my own scrying last night. The Imperial Guard was suborned, must be how Count Mavros managed to take out Bastran. I'm not sure but I think all of Bastran's personal guard are dead. He's brought in his own people. Don't recognize all of them but I think the ringleaders are loyal retainers of the Mavros clan – meaning their loyalties aren't just the compulsions, he's got their families as hostages. The leader of the guards he's got watching Altarrin is one of them. And they're more competent than the useless lumps he sent out here, unfortunately – I couldn't get through the wards they put on Altarrin's office. Hoping you can: 

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People should care less about their families, it's such a dumb vulnerability to have. Who am I scrying? Just Altarrin?

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:Start with him. You can try scrying Count Mavros after but you've never met the man, and for all that the little snot-rag deserves his face punched in, can't say he's not strong-willed – I think for your kind of scrying that makes him more likely to throw it off?: 

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Yep. With my headband on I had a lot of precision and the locals mostly weren't throwing me off - you don't seem to have any of the specific training powerful people would get at home - but no headband, worse odds, and it's definitely worse if I don't know the person at all.

 

What's Mavros like as a person? How did - I mean, he can't be an idiot, right, he wouldn't have been able to pull this off...

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:He's not a complete idiot, no. Slimy ambitious bastard – the boring kind of ambitious, s'not like he wants the Empire in order to do anything clever with it, just - to be the top wolf in the pack. Would've been a family effort. The Mavros clan is huge, they've got people all over. He'll be a mouthpiece for his cousins as much as anything else: 

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Can you give me more of a summary of the political situation while I set up this scry - never mind, I'm not going to be able to multitask - I mostly want to know who we might be able to ally with and who we want for Emperor if not Altarrin -

- bump into her loyalty compulsions -

I'm committed to staying and serving the Empire but the set of Emperors I'm willing to install given that I'll have to obey them may be small. May be literally just Altarrin.

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:Awww, Altarrin's no fun. - I'd ask if you'd obey me but I'd hate being Emperor, really. Awful job. No idea why people are so willing to commit murder for it: 

He'll stop distracting her and let her work on the scry. 

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I will obey you recreationally.

And she works on her scry.

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He snickers, and then leaves her alone to focus on the scry; after a few minutes he gets bored of watching her, and wanders out, only coming back a couple minutes before she's done. 

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The scry goes through, though it's not really a good enough scry to slip cantrips through and talk to him.

Altarrin is in his office! He's not alone; there are two guards against the wall. They're wearing uniforms that look somewhat more chosen to be flashy and intimidating than either the standard Imperial Guard uniforms or the dress previously worn by Altarrin's personally loyal guards (none of whom are present.) 

Altarrin is apparently working; he has a report of some kind in front of him. There's something subtly...off...about his body language. 

 

- he sees the scry, and reacts - oddly. His head twitches in that direction and he reaches out, starting to stand, and then...stops, as though running into an invisible wall. 

One of the guards barks something to the other, who hurries to the door and sticks his head out into the hallway, presumably to summon someone more qualified. 

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:At a guess: Arbas says dryly, :they've put a compulsion on him not to try to communicate with you. And I bet they're bringing in someone skilled enough to try tracing the spell–:

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Mmhmm. He's alive, he knows I'm alive and free; I assume you don't want to rescue him now, and I assume you have a plan for if they send a team here to check if I'm still contained? Should I drop the scry?

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:Drop it: 

Arbas rolls his eyes. :I'll impersonate one of the dead people and make a report that someone was an idiot but you're contained again now. Dunno if Altarrin will believe that, but the Emperor-pretender will, he wouldn't've sent such a useless team if he thought you were anything more than Altarrin's little pet. If they actually send people over I'll try taking them alive, force them to send regular reports like everything's fine. But it's a long way, and you're not a threat to the Emperor while you're contained here, he's got more than enough to deal with closer to home. We'd better plan from here – they're probably forcing Altarrin to search your location every so often, and I don't actually think I can remove the tracking artifact on you, it's Altarrin's design and it'd take a much stronger mage than I am: 

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She drops the scry the instant that's ordered.

Sixth circle opens up a lot of options, in particular I can probably figure out an Antimagic Field and then take it off.

But - not instantly - I need to do a bunch of spell development - and I don't know how long we have, if the Emperor-pretender being taken down might kill Altarrin - 

- I hate being stupid, I have so many priorities and I just feel confused about which one should come first - something to keep you safe if they send a team, a new headband, Altarrin's rescue, spell development - I guess the new headband needs to come before spell development, I am not going to figure out sixth circle spells which don't even have a lower circle analogue in my present state -

- I want Antimagic Field and I want Contingency so if anyone casts magic on me it can be instantly dispelled and I want a literal normal sword so I can kill people once I have Antimagic Field and I want ...Baleful Polymorph, that's going to be really fucking intimidating, no one here has any idea I can do that -

 

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Nod. :Make me one of those necklaces you made for Rosha. If they send less than ten - and they would, I'm sure of it, at least the first time - I need is a way to stay unseen while I get close enough to modify compulsions. And then make yourself a new headband, I'm tired of you being dumb again. ...I think we can afford a month. The real risk will be after the Emperor-pretender starts to let down his guard. I'll make you a sword, there's got to be metalworking supplies in this place. What's Baleful Polymorph?: 

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Turns people into a small animal, permanently, they may or may not keep their sanity. It's reversible, by me; breaking the spell the way you people know how to do it will probably kill anyone except me.

I'm going to make you a better version of Rosha's necklace that lets you jump in and out of gaseous form at will, gaseous form is pretty limiting - I wanted to do that for Rosha but I didn't have enough time or spellsilver - and actually I might see if I can make it with Greater Invisibility so it's not so easy to disrupt the spell -

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:Incredible. Will it be detectable to mage-sight, going back and forth? And Rosha said hers was only five minutes at a time, can you make this longer?: 

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I think I should be able to make the activation of an item that's under nondetection fall under the nondetection but I don't know exactly how. Doing longer than a few minutes is going to be hard - how much spellsilver do we have, anyway -

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:Over a hundred pounds in the supply room - should be enough for some experimenting, no? Five minutes of moving undetectably is enough, I think, if you can also make me one for short-range teleporting, if they're not idiots they'll station some people out of Final Strike range.: 

 

And he smiles, slyly. :We never did run that experiment on whether you craft better if someone's going to hurt you for failing: 

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I have some Boots of Teleport already in progress, I can finish those for you as well - they do three Teleports a day. 

 

 

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- I don't think you're actually going to hurt me, I think you're just a tease who isn't as free of your Good superiors as you think you are.

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:Is that what you think?: Arbas laughs. :Bastran's dead, sweetie. You even made sure to get rid of all my loyalty compulsions. And you've practically begged me to light you on fire, before. How could I turn down a lady?:

 

He lifts a hand, lazily, and a line of heat sears its way up Carissa's arm, as if Arbas were caressing her with an invisible hand of flame. It leaves a reddened welt, spiraling up around her shoulder, though not nearly as deep a mark as it feels like it should from how much it hurts. 

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It takes considerable self-control not to react, and she doesn't mean 'by crying out in pain', she means 'by closing her eyes and collapsing on the ground in a happy puddle'. She totally had a justification in her head for why she was pushing Arbas on this, but fundamentally it doesn't feel important in a strategic way, because Arbas is useful and she needs him attached to her and willing to take risks for her, it's more - she built kind of a lot of herself, recently, about being enjoyed like this, and this world kept looking at it and only seeing concerning Asmodeanism -

 

Did you have that spell already or did you invent it just for me?

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:Tweaked a spell for etching stone: Arbas looks rather pleased with himself. :To vary the power input. Because apparently I falsely assumed you can't take as much as stone can: 

 

If Carissa is going to restrain herself from collapsing in a happy puddle, then one, clearly he's not hurting her enough yet, and two, he can help her out with that with a force-net. And then another invisible line of fire, significantly higher power, this time licking its way up from her opposite ankle - 

 

- regretful sigh. :We are, tragically, on something of a deadline. I'll fetch you the spellsilver before I get too carried away: 

He's totally going to leave her pinned to his rug while he does that, though. 

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She is not, in fact, safe, she reminds herself, when he leaves, she is still the only person in the world positioned to notice if her plans are going to get her killed, she is still a prisoner in an Empire perhaps on the brink of a civil war, there are still no afterlives.

But she does have to remind herself of this, because she feels safe.

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He comes back twenty minutes later, with several pounds of spellsilver shaved off one of the blocks and dunked in a tub of oil from the alchemy lab. And her half-finished Boots of Teleport. 

:Vanishing necklace and boots first: he reminds her. :Then headband. Then - we'll figure out a plan:

(And he can read her mind, and try to figure out exactly what schedule of hurting her will nudge her to craft faster. They've got plenty of time to experiment.) 

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She's notably better at crafting than she was a week ago, even with the being stupider; she tried a ridiculous amount of stuff to solve problems that cropped up with the necklace of vanishing, and when she thinks about nothing but crafting she gets to a point where she's thinking deeper, more interesting thoughts about crafting, holding things together in her memory that she'd previously have needed to rebuild step by step. 

Necklace - there's something very satisfying about redoing a project you just finished inelegantly, with more resources and the aim of making it actually elegant this time - and then the boots, for which she already did most of the difficult intellectual work and just needs to finish it in a blazing hurry, and then her headband.

If she doesn't care about wrecking horrifying quantities of spellsilver she'll be able to work quite fast.

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Well, she started with a hundred and twenty pounds of spellsilver, and can't have used that much during her days of hiding, even burning it recklessly. 

Arbas pushes her to work as long as she possibly can each day. Hurts her, if he thinks she's not pushing as hard as she can, and experiments with various motivational compulsions to see if that helps, though for the most part Carissa's mind is already a finely honed crafting tool that he's not sure he can improve upon.

At night, he's affectionate, even cuddly, but doesn't yet try to take it further. He'd like a smart Carissa for that. In the mornings, while she gets started on her day's work, he spends a candlemark in one of the Work Room, and comes back with a scrying report on events in the capital. The reports are uneventful, for the most part. The Emperor-pretender has Altarrin, who apparently continues to be sufficiently motivated, whether by compulsions or by Arbas' faked reports confirming Carissa is still alive, to work on keeping any budding problems from blossoming further. 

 

When Carissa is about halfway, though, he comes back angry. :Idiots. Godsdamned idiots!: 

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Carissa has been keeping everything she owns in her Bag of Holding except the currently-in-progress boots; she sweeps them into the bag and stands and extends her hand to offer Arbas a Teleport. What.

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:- No, no, we don't have to flee, their idiocy is contained to the capital for now: 

He takes her hand anyway, though. And growls; he looks furious, and almost offended. :Ketar's dead. Didn't bow to the new Emperor's will, tried something heroic to get Altarrin free, and - that's it. Idiot! You don't just waste a good Thoughtsenser like that. Sure, you've got to customize the compulsions a little more, but I could've shaped the kid into whatever I wanted in ten minutes, executing him over it is just laziness: 

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They probably could get Altarrin right now, is the thing, with the worse necklace and Carissa live-fire casting instead of making everything in advance so she can stay safely home while Arbas does the work.

They shouldn't do that. But not because it wouldn't probably work. It would probably work and is still a dumb risk to take.

 

 

You shouldn't be upset when your decisions have consequences that you priced in and decided were worth it. And it's not more sad when people you know die than when people you don't. Her mistakes here were - all far upstream, in places she's already identified them -

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Can you please hurt me for a little while?

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He can definitely oblige. 

(He's thought of some new creative uses of tweaked alchemy spells. There's a clever little one for imitating the effects of a weak acid bath, and if Carissa isn't reacting to his taste he can even dial up the power and make it a stronger acid bath. Again, it's going to hurt all out of proportion to the actual damage it leaves on Carissa's skin.) 

When he's done - and he stops mostly because he's tired, for a middling Master-potential mage all that casting adds up - he scoops Carissa gently into his arms. Rocks her. 

:You could stop caring, you know. If none of them mattered to you we could be a thousand miles away by tonight. Never worry about the stupid Empire again. ...But it's kinda cute, so I'm not going to try to make you: 

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I swore to Rosha I wouldn't abandon the Empire if given the chance, when I was trying to give myself mental permission to make the Dispel item for you and also set her up so she could dispel my compulsions if she wanted to. I don't owe them more than they'd have had through the compulsions, and that's very far from - all of me - but I'm not going to serve the Empire less for not being magically bound to it, until it's had the chance to bind me again, which is a chance I don't want to let it have just yet. 

I'm not saying I don't have a caring-about-people problem, I will absolutely concede that I do, but the thing keeping me here is Law, not attachment. If they execute Altarrin this remains my stupid Empire to fix.

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He shakes his head, his expression fondly exasperated. :They don't deserve you, sweetie. The Empire's a shithole. M'not going to stop you if you're aiming to be Empress alongside Altarrin, or whatever, but - don't get your hopes up. And I swear, if you make yourself miserable at it like Altarrin did, the idiot man, I really will set you on fire for as long as it takes to make you stop that: 

And then he kisses her. 

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Mmmmmmokay yes that's good though it also seems important he see this bit of Carissa more clearly, if all the dath ilan didn't succeed in imparting it. The Empire is a shithole, and doesn't deserve her, and that's irrelevant. Past Carissa wanted Rosha to know - wanted herself to know, as she tried to push her compulsions to make the Dispel Magic item - that if something were to happen to her compulsions (hypothetically) (not hypothetically at all) she would remain as obedient to the Empire as they made her. Past Carissa was smarter, she can't reconstruct the whole chain of reasoning, but she suspects she thought that the odds of getting killed were substantially higher, if she was substantially more impaired in her work on dispelling compulsions, and that was more important than fighting for the possibility of dispelling them and getting to be free of the Empire. 

It's not a calculation where it features at any point that the Empire sucks, or that compulsions are really kind of awful. This commitment bought her some freedom when she needed it to stay alive, at the expense of some freedom now. She can't betray it because it's not to her advantage now, if you were going to be that kind of person then you'd know about yourself that you were that kind of person and it'd never have worked in the first place.

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Honestly, being dath ilani sounds exhausting. Arbas does understand some of it - it was, roughly, the same sort of reason why he was loyal to Bastran, even under circumstances where instead not being loyal to Bastran would have been much more fun - but the difference is, he doesn't see what it would even mean to go on being loyal to a dead man. And he doesn't really see how it works, what it even means, to be loyal - not just compulsioned to serve, but genuinely loyal - to a...set of decrepit centuries-old institutions and conventions. The Empire isn't a person. Loyalty is for things that can give you something in return and the Empire isn't that kind of thing, even if it's made of people who are. 

 

(The convenient thing about Mindspeech is that he can convey all of this, not even quite bothering to put the vaguer parts into words, without actually pausing in kissing Carissa. She's very kissable.) 

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It just means she isn't doing what the compulsions wouldn't've let her do. She agrees that the Law-instincts in humans, the feelings of honor and vengeance and duty, don't bind very readily to something like 'continue providing the Empire the level of reluctant coerced service you were providing it before' but it's not underspecified, just uncompelling.

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Arbas feels like you can just…not do things…if they aren’t compelling? …To be fair Arbas probably could not have pushed his compulsions as far as Carissa did in order to make the Dispel Magic artifact, because there’s absolutely no way he could have credibly-to-himself committed to serving the Empire anyway, serving the Empire actually kind of sucks when it’s…in general…and not specifically for someone like Bastran. Most people suck but Bastran was okay. He’s really quite mad at the Emperor-pretender for that.

Carissa’s welcome to be Lawful, of course. Arbas sees the upsides. They’re just, you know, not very compelling to him

(And meanwhile he’s undressing Carissa, with surprising gentleness, and tangling his hands in her hair - does Carissa like having her hair pulled, he bets Carissa likes having her hair pulled -)

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Carissa does like having her hair pulled. She is giggly and pliant and will lean in to whatever he feels like doing, not that she can really do anything else -

(mental check, is that true? she needs to stop underestimating how dangerous she is, that's a component of how they all ended up in this situation in the first place. it is aesthetically pleasing for her to possess no meaningful avenue to object, here, but that's entirely separate from whether she could actually take Arbas in a fight if she wanted to, and she obviously could if she got the first move, though that wouldn't be easy if he was mindreading her -)

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Arbas is temporarily distracted from pulling Carissa’s hair because he’s instead laughing too hard to breathe.

:You’re delightful. I’d ask myself how Altarrin was lucky enough to find you but he didn’t, did he, you just landed in his lap - I struggle to imagine anyone in the multiverse being more his type - but he’s not here right now, is he, and I am:

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Yeah it seems pretty conclusively the case that the powers that put people in new universes are interested in their sex lives, though it's a sufficiently underspecified class of hypotheses that she's mostly not using it to make many further predictions - like, it doesn't mean that those relationships will be a good idea, or not incredibly doomed, or anything like that -

- not the time. 

Oh, is that what I was doing wrong with Altarrin, not trying to ambush and subdue him? I don't think it would've worked. You, I could handle, unless you've pinned me down inside my head such that I'd find myself standing there with no idea what I'd been about to try. 

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:Are you trying to make me jealous? Rude: The overtones are amused, though. :You’ll just have to get better at crafting, then. - And I hate losing but it’d hardly be any fun not to give you a chance:

Distraction is fair game, though. He’ll pull out the stone-etching spell, again, and leave his mark on her body, and be very obviously delighted with himself the entire time.

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Well. that sounds like a challenge, so now Carissa has to attempt to Teleport out, even though she'll be terribly disappointed if she succeeds.

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This is spectacularly entertaining and Arbas is not going to cheat with compulsions even though this would be so easy.

He’s totally reading her mind, though, and it takes more concentration - and longer uninterrupted concentration - to cast Golarion-style arcane spells than to toss off Velgarth mage-work. He can time his distractions very precisely, and he’s spent a lot of time in Carissa’s head while he hurts her, he has a much better sense now of how hard it is to actually seriously damage her — and how much pain she can take, and will sincerely try to exceed that.

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Yeah, he can get her to lose the spell that way.

 

This clearly means she needs more practice spellcasting under pressure. 

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:Clearly. How else are you ever going to manage to ambush and seduce Altarrin while I stand there laughing at him?:

 

 

Right now, though, he's sort of done with hurting her for the evening, and he wants to be gentle and sweet and eventually snuggle up sleepily with her head on his shoulder. 

:It'll be all right: he sends, petting her. :We'll get Altarrin out. They're not going to be stupid enough to have him killed, not when he's holding half of it together. It'd be hilarious to see it all fall apart, but - we'll do it by rescuing him. Just need you with a headband to figure out some new spells - Mavros has no idea what's about to hit him...: 

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It might work out, she says, but can't bring herself to say that it will.

 

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The next day, Arbas ups the frequency on his scrying checks. (Which means he's slightly less available to hurt Carissa when she's not focusing hard enough, but honestly she seems plenty motivated.) 

:If I'm worried about his safety I'll have you scry him: he tells Carissa. :M'not worried about that yet. He's - doing a good job on the Emperor-pretender's security - gonna be an enormous hassle, half of what we need to get past is the precautions he set up. Reckon we could do it now if we had to, both of us together, if you prepared the right spells, but if Altarrin keeps doing his job then we'll have long enough for a real plan. Figure out that antimagic field – I need it, I can't take Altarrin in a straight fight, not even if I'm cheating. Need him at least temporarily clearheaded so he can, I don't know, agree to take off all his stupid talismans, maybe take a nonmagical drug that'll knock him out long enough for me to untangle his mind without him fighting back...: 

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Reconstructing spells is very slow and they often explode in your face if you failed at stabilizing them. Altarrin left me - a bunch of very powerful protective amulets - that'd mean I could safely experiment a lot faster, do you have them? They were with my other possessions.

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:The ridiculous crate full? Yeah, it's there. And there's an experimental Work Room, here, it's got shielding on it that protects you and not just the people outside the room. Does that help?: 

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Yes. Though I think I'm still going to need the headband first, I am not even thinking of a good place to start on rederiving Antimagic Field. It's not an extension of any other spell I know, wizards developed it off the cleric version...

Probably you should also make a plan that doesn't rely on it. I can always Baleful Polymorph Altarrin and you can pick his head apart before I turn him back.

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:...That's the one that sometimes turns people insane? Uh, if that happens, do they definitely stop it when you dispel it? Because the last thing I want is an insane Altarrin: 

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It sometimes turns their mind into the mind of a toad! And yes, they go back to normal when you dispel it.

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:Toad Altarrin. Imagine that: 

And he'll focus on scrying a hundred different key locations in Jacona that aren't behind shields every day, in hopes of getting some advance warning if things deteriorate further, while Carissa works on her headband so that she can move on to making spells explode. He's only very intermittently available to hurt her during the day – though he'll still push her to work twelve, fourteen, even sixteen hours, if she's still able to concentrate – but he can definitely hurt her in the evenings, and do other things with her too, if it helps her unwind and sleep.

- he's not sure if it's worth pausing to very quickly make herself a Ring of Sustenance? It would only be worth it if they expect to take long enough that when it kicks in after a week it'll pay for itself before they have to move. How long does she actually need to make one? 

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Two or three days; she thought about this, and thinks it's probably worth it, but she wants the headband first because she's faster at everything when she has the headband. She's not making herself a +6, that'd take too long; a +4 is nearly as good and is the work of four days instead of twelve of them. She works on the Boots of Teleport when she needs a break, and works on spell development in the Work Room when she needs more of a break.

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Seems worth it, yeah. 

 

:Am I right: Arbas says lazily to her, over lunch when he's flopped backward in his armchair, :that being able to make a +6 headband in twelve days is not normal? Your memories implied it was a lot more expensive than I'd expect if an ordinary wizard could craft one in less than a fortnight: 

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Most wizards can't do it at all. It's not - like a weaker magic item where you can basically just follow the instructions and you'll get there eventually if you're moderately competent. It's like how - you can tell idiots to build roads, and the worst case is that they'll be kind of shoddy roads, but you can't tell idiots to build an arch bridge because it won't stay up at all. Only imagine you can't even tell them where to lay each piece of stone because it depends how the strain's distributed and that's not fully predictable from where you put the stone so far. You've actually got to be pretty good at spellcraft to make fancy items.

Your typical wizard at sixth or seventh circle could probably craft themselves a +6 headband, and many of them do, but it might take them a year or two. But most wizards of sixth or seventh circle are adventurers, and they have spent most of their time on skills like tossing off spells instantaneously - which, you may have noticed, I can't myself do - or preparing spells on the fly in the space of a minute, which I've been vaguely wishing I'd focused on, or making their combat spells a lot deadlier, or on getting through shields - there's a lot of magic. Most people who specialize in the bit of magic I specialize in don't reach sixth circle. 

I'm also - burning spellsilver in a way that almost no one would ever do, at home. If you make an item responsibly, you can reuse the spellsilver later. What I'm doing is trying to do things ten or twenty times faster than you're supposed to, and sometimes I fail badly enough to waste a lot of my materials and I don't mind because I have a hundred twenty pounds of spellsilver and I learn something useful from the attempt. If I had to use a normal amount of spellsilver I'd have to go slower so that I'd catch my mistakes before I wasted any.

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Arbas laughs. :There you go, still being Altarrin's perfect match. I didn't know half the artifact designs in that crate of yours were possible either – and I assume it's deliberate, that he didn't make all of them for Bastran. The man must really care a lot about you: He ruffles Carissa's hair with a burst of mage-energies, so he doesn't have to move. :Don't go wasting that: 

And they can get back to work. 

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At least the work is amazingly cool!

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It IS! Carissa is also pretty cool! Arbas likes watching her mind while she works. 

 

 

Almost a week passes of nothing (additional) going wrong. 

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And then one evening, Arbas comes to their quiet solitary dinner (Rosha has been mostly keeping to herself) looking, if not exactly angry, at least very deeply exasperated. 

:Well. If we'd been in any doubt, I think we can now conclude that dear Emperor Mavros isn't here for the long run. S'not an urgent problem - he's keeping Altarrin in the capital - but our little Emperor-pretender pulled the Mage-General occupying the post before and put his cousin in, and now there's a nice provincial rebellion brewing. No need to panic but seriously, this would've been easily avoidable if they didn't have Altarrin under so many compulsions he can't think without permission - it's not even Taymyrr, it's in Oris, which is not a hard province to govern: 

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Does this mean there’s danger of losing Altarrin before we can grab him?

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:If Mavros sends him south for it, we should grab him right away - but on the bright side, it'd be much easier to grab him outside the capital. Obviously if the rebellion explodes badly enough to threaten the capital, we should get him out. But I think neither he nor the Emperor are at higher risk of assassination at this point:

Sigh. :I think our safest option is still to watch and wait, but I don't like it. Where are you on that antimagic field? Or the Baleful Polymorph?: 

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I don’t think I’m going to figure out an antimagic field. Maybe if I had a year. Baleful Polymorph I’ve nearly got, though I think the odds of it going slightly wrong are too high to use on anyone we like. 

She has her Ring of Sustenance and the +4 headband and is finishing up the Boots of Teleport. She has a huge stack of design notes for the improved necklace of vanishing now that she has the luxury of not having to plan it all in her head. She hasn’t felt safe or slept well in a month. Everything is fine.

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:Hmm. If you can get the Baleful Polymorph working well enough to risk on Altarrin, get it into an artifact including making it dismissable, and get an improved necklace and the Boots of Teleport done, then I reckon I can pull this off on my own. Assuming the boots will let me Teleport Altarrin out with me, and they don't need a daylong period to recharge or something: He grins, humorlessly. :I'd rather you stay back, if we can swing it, just in case I get myself into trouble and need you to rescue me. Hopefully they'd assume the invisible teleporting person is you, and not - come hunt you down here - but obviously you should be ready to bug out. 

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I am at least a month from having Baleful Polymorph in an artifact I can give to you, and it won’t be dismissible, that’s a second fifth circle spell. I’d rather come with you than wait a month, I think, once we can both Teleport separately. Things just keep happening, and they won’t have planned for two my-style spellcasters.

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:Guess things do keep happening. I'd just - rather not have all our eggs so much in one basket. And I don't think we should assume we know their defenses, there's a lot I can't scry and if we have you do it then they'll know, but - if he's even slightly not an idiot, I bet he would've put Altarrin on finding a way to block Teleports - maybe selectively block Teleports out. If that's the case then my chances of sneaking out on foot are a lot higher than yours, if it takes longer than the invisibility lasts: 

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I guess. I’ll prepare spells to do the extraction every day and get started on a single use item for a baleful polymorph.

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:I think that's still a better idea unless there's new trouble actually in the capital: Shrug. :If the Empire can survive everything that's already happened, it can survive losing another province. Honestly, I don't care. Guess you do but you can't serve it if you get yourself killed: 

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I don’t think I care much how big the Empire is, unless that affects the ease with which the gods strike at Jacona.

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Shrug. :If anything, losing part of Oris would simplify matters – less pressure to pour a lot of resources into Taymyrr to get a road laid. If there were a problem in Tolmassar I'd worry more about the capital, but Mavros would really have to be asleep at his desk to let that happen: 

 

Though he's still, apparently, tense enough to push Carissa rather relentlessly hard on the Baleful Polymorph work. And she can afford to experiment recklessly, she has so much spellsilver and - in case magic item work ever explodes when done badly - she also has access to very, very good shields. 

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Carissa works 22 hour days. She crafts and she works on developing more spells. She’s very emotionally dependent on Arbas right now, and she knows it. He hurts her and he fucks her and he tells her snippets of news from the outside world and she has no real ways to route around him. She does make plans to, when he’s left to rescue Altarrin, Dispel Magic on herself and check just how much he’s done to her, but it won’t surprise her if she hits a wall when she tries. It doesn’t really matter. Her job is to craft things and stay alive and, once she has Altarrin, do what he thinks is wise.

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Arbas plots out his approach. They'll do it at night; Altarrin presumably works very long Ring of Sustenance-powered days, but after weeks of scrying the places that are scryable, he informs Carissa that Altarrin at least does his evening work in his suite. 

It remains a terrible idea to, with no advance scouting, appear there along with a loud shiny Teleport signature, even if one invisible and magically undetectable and Gaseous at the time. Asking Carissa to scry Altarrin before they kick things off is also fraught, since it'll warn him - and his guards - that something is up.

Arbas draws out plans for the palace from memory and selects a Work Room to Teleport in; it's an obsolete design, rarely used, and not shielded against scrying, but it's very unlikely anyone would bother to scry it and the shields are more than enough to block the Teleport signature, which won't be drawing on nodes for power such that it would leave ripples. His entrance should pass unremarked. If his arrival is noticed, this means they're missing critical intelligence on the Emperor's precautions, and he'll abort and Teleport out instantly, and he and Carissa will have to bolt and resume their planning somewhere else. 

If everything goes as planned, though, it should be a three-minute trip at most to Altarrin's suite. Altarrin will very likely be in his study working, not in his shielded bedroom. Arbas, hopefully undetectable even to him, will sneakily place tripwire-compulsions on the guards with him, which won't be noticeable until they suddenly find themselves unable to respond in any way to their ward mysteriously turning into a toad. At which point Arbas will slap some truly thorough and disabling compulsions on top of Altarrin's existing set, just in case he's the kind of toad that can squirt blood out of its eyeballs at you (this is, in fact, a real species) or otherwise attack him, and then grab toad-Altarrin and Teleport him out back to Carissa, who should herself have a Teleport prepared to get them well away from the facility which is surely about to be investigated in force. If Carissa can have Fly prepared as well, they'll hide in a Rope Trick in the sky. Carissa - should plausibly just cast a Dispel Magic on Altarrin's compulsions as well as dispelling the Baleful Polymorph, since her way is significantly faster

 

News of the outside world: 

- The provincial rebellion was started by a cult of Atet worshippers, to absolutely no one's surprise. 

Somewhat more surprisingly a couple of weeks into the Baleful Polymorph Project, news reaches the capital that the cousin Mage-General was, apparently, suborned by the cultists. 

- The Mage-General is definitely issuing threats to march northeast and sack the capital. 

 

Arbas is not yet very worried about these threats, which he doesn't find the most credible - it's a ridiculously long march, through a lot of core Empire territory - but he's increasingly worried that the Emperor-pretender will send Altarrin down to deal with the mess, at which point the gods will see an opening to take him out. He's very much in favor of Carissa preparing all the spells she needs for an emergency operation, every morning. 

 

 

But Emperor Mavros doesn't do this. They'll have a month.  

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A lot of people are probably dying in the civil war.

Ugh, she’s getting annoying and Good herself.

 

She makes an item of Baleful Polymorph and one of Break Enchantment which should get the compulsions too.

Arbas can have the Boots of Teleport.

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Break Enchantment, that's an excellent idea, specific to the mind-affecting magic and won't also take out all of Altarrin's protective talismans. He's going to hate being turned into a toad badly enough, and they might have to fight. 

(They've tested Carissa directly casting Baleful Polymorph. On Rosha, who's more, well, disposable, and who suffered no ill effects noticeable even to detailed Thoughtsensing and who, surprisingly, claimed not to have even very much hated being briefly a toad.) 

 

 

It's only late afternoon. Arbas wants to move in a couple of candlemarks after midnight; he's been making sure to sleep very late according to the sun that neither of them has seen in months. 

In the meantime, that's so many candlemarks to take Carissa to bed. (Possibly a nap should be squeezed in there, so he's fresh.) Arbas fucks her, and hurts her, like someone who is fully aware he's about to take a 10% chance of death, and is actually just fine with this but still wants to cram in as much fun as he can first. 

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Carissa wants to literally never take a ten percent chance of death again, and will never be okay with it. But she clings to Arbas and doesn’t bore him and then prepares a really ludicrous array of spells and waits for him.

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Arbas has practiced with the boots of Teleport and the fancier Necklace of Vanishing, including toggling the Gaseous Form on and off while remaining invisible and undetectable to mage-sight (the Nondetection does appear to cover the switchover, he says.) He hasn't practiced with the precious item of Baleful Polymorph because there's only one of them. 

This should be over in three to five minutes. Carissa...should wait up to fifteen minutes for him. If he's not back by then she should Teleport herself out and hide in a Rope Trick and only then try a Sending or something to figure out what went wrong. 

 

 

He Teleports out. 

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Three minutes. 

Four. 

Five. 

 

 

...Six minutes. 

Seven minutes - 

 

 

- and a thresholdless Gate appears from nowhere in the bedroom. 

It's not Arbas who steps through. 

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Teleport.

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The mage - an unfamiliar man, of the standard Eastern Empire ethnicity, with the white hair of an Adept making heavy use of nodes framing a face that looks late-thirties-ish - flings up his hand.

The Teleport....doesn't work. It doesn't feel like a compulsion, but something jars against her magic, and the spell folds up and fails to cast. 

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- fine. Can’t cast spells where he can see - 

- she runs. 

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The mage is looking around confusedly, clearly unable to detect her, but it's going to be pretty obvious if she opens the door, which is currently shut. 

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And she can’t cast spells in his vicinity without his noticing and blocking them, and once she opens the door he’ll know where she is and can toss off spells -

 

Can she get out of his field of view -

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She could try slipping under the bed? Velgarth mage-sight isn't entirely blocked by solid surfaces alone and Arbas never specifically mentioned if his bed had wards on it, but a lot of Altarrin's furniture was ambiently magical; it might be enough to at least attenuate the signature of any spell she casts. 

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Yeah okay. Very carefully, so as to not break her invisibility - she’ll flatten herself on the floor and try to cast Gaseous Form under the bed.

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She can hear the mage's feet scuff the floor as he spins around, looking for the source of something that he must have sensed, but apparently he hasn't yet pinpointed it closely enough to fling spells at her. 

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And now she can run.

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The mage - maybe just on principle since Carissa isn't visible anywhere in the room - blasts the door open ten seconds after she slips under it. 

 

He glances around, then raises his hands and fills the hallway with what looks like dense fog (except for a pocket around his head.) Does this give any hints at Gaseous Carissa's location 

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Well how is he going to see through the dense fog to see where it ripples, exactly? She’s in any event fleeing for the observatory as fast as she can.

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Apparently he can sense something - maybe it's magical fog and she's disturbing it and he can pick up on that? - apparently not perfectly, but enough to guess at the direction she's headed, and fling up an airtight mage-barrier over the stairwell she was about to flee up. 

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She is probably going to need to kill him but there’s one thing to try first, which is to un-enslave him.

Dispel Magic.

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The spell casts fine, this time. 

 

It...doesn't appear to have any effect on the mage, who doesn't even appear startled. Maybe they've figured out how to design shields to block it. 

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And at this point you just have to try to kill him.

 

Haste. Greater Invisibility. Cat’s Grace. Bull’s Strength. 

And she will just try driving a sword through his stupid face. It probably won’t work but other things aren’t working either, it’s not something they have seen her try before, and - and this might be important if they have Arbas - it’s not something he has seen her do.

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He's got a really good shield-talisman. And Carissa is perhaps not incredibly practiced at wielding swords. And the hallway still contains some fading whorls of probably-magical-mist, which might be how he senses her coming in time to at least start dodging. Whatever the exact cause of failure here, the sword strikes and glances off and the man responds by flinging up another barrier - hemispherical all around him - and then blindly throwing some kind of force-net in Carissa's direction. 

 

- apparently some of the blow got through. There's blood trickling down his cheek, now, and his expression is no longer entirely calm. 

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And Carissa is not incredibly good with swords but she is strong and she is fast and can jump around the force net to strike again - these people are so fragile, it takes so little to kill then in the end -

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The barrier catches her next strike - she's very strong, though, and can feel it crumple a little, and the next blow shatters it, but in an unpredictable way that makes her miss the mage entirely in that swing. The next try catches his shoulder, and at least some of it gets through his personal shields. He's bleeding more now, but also flinging raw force at her, enough to knock her back a pace and buy himself a second for another shield and then - does a levinbolt at full power at least distract her -? 

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Carissa, too, is very well shielded with all Altarrin’s fancy artifacts except the ones Arbas needed. He can hit her with levinbolts until he dies as far as she cares -

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He tries another shield - a few more fruitless defensive spells, a paralysis-spell that also fails against her fancy artifact - 

 

- looks around frantically, and then his eyes turn upward and he flings a blast of raw force at the ceiling, where apparently a couple of the stone blocks, each nearly two meters across and long and half a meter thick, are loose enough to come crashing down on top of Carissa. They're not going to kill her, she's spectacularly well-shielded, but they're definitely going to hurt, and be awkward to free herself from even with Bull's Strength. 

The mage flings himself away from her with a blast of force. Which sends him flying into the opposite wall, but he's at least momentarily out of sword-range. 

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Gaseous Form again, then.

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This will totally get her out from under the blocks but casting it and dispelling it is time during which she's not running at the mage with a sword! 

 

- he looks exhausted and kind of badly injured, at this point, bleeding, crumpled on the floor against the opposite wall - trying to stand, giving up...

 

...casting an unscaffolded Gate under himself. He's not nearly as fast as Altarrin, but the falling ceiling bricks knocked the sword out of Carissa's hand, meaning it's right there but didn't accompany her into Gaseous Form and she has to turn back and retrieve it and then run at him again, and that's long enough that he's already toppling through the Gate just before she reaches him. She can catch a glimpse of nondescript stone but doesn't have time to even consider following him. 

 

And then he's gone. He might or might not have Gated to another room in the same compound - Carissa lacks mage-sight or permanent Detect Magic, to sense another Gate nearby - or he might be right now sending in reinforcements. But, for the moment, she's alone in the hallway. 

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Teleport is still broken! Maybe it was an area-effect spell, or something he cast on her with a duration of longer than five minutes. ...Three minutes. It really hasn't been a very long fight. 

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Time to find out if Arbas blocked her from dispelling magic on herself, which would be terrifying bad news for many reasons and

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...Yeah no she super cannot do that. 

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She only has one more Teleport and she can’t risk it.

She’ll cast another Invisibility and then Fly for the observatory.

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She makes it safely to the observatory! It's night. The sky is very clear and full of stars. 

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- and seconds later, Arbas Teleports into the space and immediately falls to his knees - he doesn't look horrifically injured, necessarily, but there's blood on his clothes and he's clearly exhausted and winded, panting for air. 

 

He's holding a toad. "Carissa -?" he gasps out. 

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Infernal Healing. And Dispel Magic - it's her last one of those, too - not on the toad but on apparently-Arbas.

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This does get a reaction! He drops the toad, for one, and sags forward and catches himself on his hands. He doesn't say anything. 

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The toad catches itself in a hop, and - seems to be trying to look around the room and orient in what's really quite an Altarrinish sort of way. Probably toad vision is not particularly good enough to see what's going on. 

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She mostly just didn't want to try her Break Enchantment until she was sure this wasn't some trap with Arbas compulsioned and the toad just a random toad. But if it's really Arbas and he's not yelling at her to stop -

 

Break Enchantment. 

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And Altarrin is scrambling up from hands and knees, reaching for her - shielding all of them - 

 

"Arbas, seriously," he says, which Carissa presumably won't understand if she doesn't have Tongues up right now. 

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Arbas scowls and rolls his eyes and...releases the structured net of several dozen compulsions tangled in Carissa's mind that nudged her away from questioning that the last two months were entirely real. ...Also the anti-Teleport compulsion, because it would be really quite awkward if she Teleported out right now but he would absolutely deserve it and hopefully she'd at least take Altarrin. 

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"Are we in danger."

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"We are not in any danger. ...To be entirely clear, nothing including and since my report of Bastran's death to you really happened, Bastran is fine, things have been going smoothly in the capital, and this was entirely Arbas' scheme to get you to sixth circle. He confidently predicted you would not be angry about it since it did, in fact, succeed at getting you to sixth circle, but if you are angry about it then I really do not think I can claim any objection." 

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- she takes a deep, shaky breath.

 

 

And then five or six more of them.

- "Wow, I would really have hoped I would notice if that much of my being-suspicious-about-things was silently impaired!"

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" - also I am very glad the Emperor is alive. Sorry. Arguably I should've said that one first."

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"Sweetie, I've got decades more practice at making sure you don't notice than you have at noticing. I'll coach you on it if you like but it'll make it harder to pull this off again." 

He makes a face. "...No compulsions is weird. - I was just pretending to have them dispelled, before, but I convinced Bastran it wouldn't end on the right note if we made a Dispel Magic on either of us fail too." 

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Does Carissa want a hug. Altarrin kind of very badly wants to hug Carissa. He hasn't seen her in two months. 

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Yes, she wants a hug. "I want this to be hard to ever pull off again!" she objects into Altarrin's shoulder. "I mean, not by you, but by - other people - I - I wasn't even suspicious until the very end, I wasn't curious why I wasn't more suspicious, I didn't give it a probability - I -

- I really liked that headband -

- is the Emperor going to be jealous that you slept with me -

- is that guard okay -"

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"The Emperor," Arbas says dryly, "agreed to try this and then requested I never tell him any details whatsoever. You're welcome to tell him if it'll make you feel better, I doubt he'd be jealous, he might feel bad about himself but he feels bad about himself when you sneeze on him." 

 

- and he reaches into the pocket of his jacket and pulls out Carissa's wig of Alter Self. "Wasn't a guard, it was just me. Easier than trying to hide behind a cabinet and make sure you didn't actually murder some poor bastard, and Bastran didn't want us bringing any extra people in because of 'security'." 

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Hug. ...Altarrin is maybe actually just going to scoop Carissa up. She seems like maybe she could use scooping right now and also he wants to. 

"I really am sorry about the headband. Arbas thought it would make the stakes - more real - in a way that might help with leveling. And also that he would not be able to maintain the deception for long enough if you were still smarter than him. But...twelve days, right? To make a replacement? And we have time, there are not in fact any emergencies." 

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"You don't need to apologize for anything." She feels dizzy. She's trying to - rerun two months of memories, check against what she thought she was doing and - how, and why, and -

"I'm in Imperial custody, and have been this whole time, and my compulsions are satisfactory?"

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"Yes and yes. ...Well, your compulsions are satisfactory to us but - more than sufficient, and you did complain about the loyalty one before - I leaned on Bastran to agree that we could remove everything while the three of us are here, I said you had demonstrated your loyalty more than enough. I want you to have everything you need to process this, before we consider returning to the capital, I told Bastran I am going to need at least the next week free. ...If you want me here, of course, but I - would like to stay - I missed you and if Arbas had not sold me on this absurd plan then I would have gotten to see you every week for the last two months." 

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The dizziness is worse, now. "Sorry, I think that was - too much information density - 

- I'm not angry, I'm really not, but reasoning from - past things rather than introspection - I'm also not remotely okay, and I need - a lot of dumb things, probably - it's not a bad thing, it doesn't mean anything went wrong, just -"

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"All right. We do not need to talk about anything tonight. I...want to figure out what you need and help you get it but I am not sure I am actually very good at this. You should get some sleep, I think - do you want me to stay with you, or Arbas to stay with you, or to be alone -?" 

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"I'd rather have you with me if you will be very careful and I'd rather not if that will be very annoying to you. I'm going to cry a lot, probably, and be stupid."

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"I want to stay with you and I do not mind trying to be very careful. Or if you cry. I– do you want a talisman against Thoughtsensing, or do you want Arbas to be able to read you and tell me where I need to be especially careful." 

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"You can read me but - I think it's a bad time to change my thoughts around even if they're stupid - 'm not even going to use an Owl's Wisdom -"

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"I promise that Arbas will leave your head alone except for reading you if I cannot figure out what you need and ask him to, and I will not try to convince you to change your thoughts around." 

And rather than negotiating the stairs with Carissa in his arms, he'll raise a Gate to the dorm hallway. He carries Carissa into room 14, the bedroom assigned to her personally and across from his. It's nearly identical except for a different pattern on the rug and different wall tapestries. 

He sets her down on the bed. Sits with her. "If you decide you want to be left alone, I can go next door. Do you need - food, water, anything else?" 

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She needs - she has no idea what she needs - she needs Abrogail -

she's not in fact crying but it feels like a bad thing rather than a good thing -

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Altarrin also isn't sure what she needs, and he feels kind of terrible about it! He'll gently nudge the door shut with a burst of magic, and put a blanket around her shoulders, and then stay there with her and hold her and keep himself very calm and still and relaxed, not saying anything unless she addresses him first. 

 

- what he really wants to do is tell her how insanely impressive the magic items were, and also that Arbas absolutely did not warn him that his part in the plan involved being turned into a toad. He'll sit quietly for five minutes first before testing the waters on that, though. Maybe Carissa will manage to think of something she needs and say it in words and he won't have to guess. 

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Carissa's mostly trying not to have thoughts, actually. The thoughts that come to mind are mostly variants on being mad at herself, which seems dumb, or an effort to effortfully piece everything together, which seems not-yet. She will snuggle Altarrin and tell herself that she is safesafesafesafe.

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"You know," he says eventually, very gently stroking her hair, "it does follow from other facts I was aware of, that your magic could involuntarily transform people into small animals and back again, but somehow I still did not predict it. That is even more spectacularly impossible with our magic. ...Your plan would have worked, I think. If this had been real. Which is really saying something." 

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Yeah okay that's the right genre of thing. "'m very impressive, yes. ...still feel like an idiot."

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"...I can walk you through what I would have done in the same position, that I think might have been enough to catch it. Though I suspect the relevant mental habits are the same ones that make it - incredibly hard on me, to be a helpless prisoner - and I think my mental processes would adapt less gracefully to losing a significant amount of my usual intelligence. I - think it is worth it for you to invest in those skills, because the more powerful you are, the less likely it is you will end up being a helpless prisoner and wanting to be able to endure it gracefully, but..." Shrug. "This is a conversation for later, probably." 

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"I think ....sometimes it feels safe to stop being small, and then it isn't. It won't really feel safe until I'm immortal."

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"That makes sense." Squeeze. "I have been working on it, while you were here. I think the good option is to use Clones, once you are at eighth circle, but in the meantime, once both of us can work together on research, I think we can get something no worse than my current setup as an interim, maybe even within a year or two. And hope the gods will be dissuaded from trying so hard to kill you if it will not even work." 

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"'m a bit scared of getting to eighth circle. At some point you - actually won't really be able to contain me -"

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"...And then what? Maybe I am missing something, but I - feel like someone involved would have to be - doing something foolish - for that to be a problem." 

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" - if you have me compulsioned loyal and I - stop being all muddled inside - then it won't work on me the way it works on other people. I dunno exactly how it'd work. And if you don't, then - if I were the Emperor I'd be pretty scared of an eighth circle wizard who isn't his -"

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Sigh. "I can trace down the full causal history of exactly why I built the Empire this way, and I still– I wish very much that I had not. It is so - how do I say this - it is so disproportionately costly for the best and most talented people who could serve the Empire, and - those whose core motivations are most aligned with what I actually wanted to build, seven hundred years ago." 

He strokes Carissa's hair. "I am not sure what will end up making the most sense. But I think I want you to only be under compulsions that you endorse having, that - are just making the goals you already have and the Lawfulness you already believe in more legible to our system, and something we can put weight on. I want that for myself, too, I - thought it was already true, and it is not, but I think it should not have to be impossible."  

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"Does Bastran want that."

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"I think Bastran is confused and scared and feels out of control of the situation and - has never felt he had the luxury to consider what he would want if he truly had the resources to attain it - and that makes it harder. But I think he was starting to notice that - being twisted into an unnatural shape - was not good for me. He was comfortable sending me here knowing that you were planning to dispel my compulsions. He trusted me with that, and I think you are not any less trustworthy, and if he is not an idiot - which i am fairly sure he is not - he will eventually believe that." 

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"I want - I dunno. To be small and safe and immortal and a god. I don't know. There's too much everything for me to keep track of. I'm a funny shape and I have no idea what shape I'd be if I wasn't scared because I'm always scared."

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...Altarrin laughs, despite himself. Squeezes Carissa tighter. "I - sorry - I am not laughing at you. I would be tempted to say something like 'ah, the human condition' except that...actually, I think I have never experienced feeling small and safe in the sense that you mean, I - had not even considered it was something I could want until you told me about dath ilan." 

He strokes her hair. "I am not sure we can have any of those things anytime soon, but - I do want to see if we can find a way for neither of us to be scared. At least sometimes. I want to find out what shape both of us could become." 

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"Can you pretend - you just got me, and there's no complicated politics yet, no gods interfering, no games, you just have a very small scared Carissa -"

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"....Of course." 

 

Altarrin scoops her more thoroughly into his arms, and then - is going to leave some loud surface thoughts outside his shields of ARBAS HELP because actually he has very little idea what Carissa means in any specific sense. 

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Arbas knows what he would do with that prompt but he's not sure Altarrin can either pull it off or would want to try! 

Does Carissa happen to be thinking anything that might hint at what she wants Altarrin to do? 

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She's thinking about how when she first arrived, she was scared, but it was a narrow, bounded scared. She was Altarrin's, and she didn't understand him and she needed to, and that was all she needed; she'd been satisfied by the books that he could keep her alive if he wanted her alive. It was not a problem that required her full heights as a dangerous powerful smart person; it was a problem that required instinctive, simple things. She doesn't want to be straining to put her head together, right now, but she also can't occupy herself with nothing at all; she wants a small problem by which a small safety can be purchased, and then trusted in.

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Prompt for Altarrin: Carissa needs reassurance that Altarrin is absolutely on top of security for the facility, wouldn't even have considered doing this if he'd had any doubts that she would be safe here for as long as the scenario took and as long as she needed afterward to recover and get her head together. She needs to know that he was taking kind of absurd levels of precautions and care to ensure that her location remained secret and absolutely cut off from any causal influence of the gods. She could probably use some reassurance that the people she knows in Jacona are also safe and free and doing fine. 

And she needs to know that he's impressed with her, that he's deeply committed to ensuring her safety and immortality, that he's more thoroughly attached to her and emotionally invested in her than he's been with anyone in the last five hundred years (and, yes, Arbas is pretty sure this is just true and not even slightly hyperbole.) Altarrin may be deeply clueless about how being in love with someone is supposed to work but he loves Carissa. 

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...Yeah, okay. That feels like kind of a non-sequitur from Carissa's actual words to him, but he trusts Arbas. He can do that. 

He strokes her hair. "For the last two months I was more confident that you were safe, here, than I have been in my own safety for nearly all of my career in the Empire. The lines of communication went through myself alone – Bastran did bring in two of his personal guards, but they were vetted with great care to be almost-guaranteed free of god-influence, and he had them quarantined in a separate facility in non-god-claimed territory and forbidden via compulsions from contacting anyone except himself. I ordered them sent here once I took over the operation – I trust their loyalty, Bastran trusts their loyalty, but I had Arbas check their minds as well. He redid the compulsions of all of the guards on site so that they could respond as autonomously as possible to any unexpected threat, which we judged to be less than a one-in-a-thousand risk and nearly all of that probability mass was on an earthquake and not human-mediated danger. 

"Obviously I was a potential weak point, so Bastran tripled my guard and ordered other security precautions to ensure I was at very low risk of being targeted by anyone, including assigning me another Thoughtsenser and increasing the frequency of loyalty checks on my guards. We ordered the Office of Inquiry to carry out a thorough investigation into indirect religious influences in Jacona, which we needed to do anyway after the previous events but prioritized more highly because of this plan. Bastran was also ready to take over immediately if I were impaired for some reason; I had a full written and magically sealed briefing for him. We also arranged to discreetly spread some misinformation about your location and activities, so that anyone who was trying to track you down would be kept busy chasing false trails. I have an extensive spy network and I am confident that I would know if any of these precautions were subverted, in time to handle the problem before it could get anywhere near you." 

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She leans into him and only half-listens. The point is that she doesn't need to understand because Altarrin can do it for her. She just needs to - make sure Altarrin feels appreciated, make sure he's glad he expended the effort -

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Altarrin runs his fingers through her hair. 

"You are brilliant and impressive and creative, and - and I do not need anything from you, right now. None of us need anything from you. The Empire does not need anything from you. We were at no point expecting you to be contributing to the security here, and I would not even have considered this if I thought there was more than a miniscule chance we would need that from you. Your safety - and your future immortality - are among my top priorities. Because you are more than worth it – I am not sure why this world was lucky enough to end up with you but if I ever find out what Power sent you here, I hope I will have a chance to thank them – but also because I care about you." 

He squeezes her, softly. "I...am not very good at caring about people. I am very confused about how loving someone works. But you matter more to me than– than anyone since Urtho, I think. And I was too young and confused and small to save Urtho, but - I am stronger and I know much more now, and I can keep you safe for...as long as I expect you to need. And - really, I have spent much more on things that were worth far less."

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"What do you want me to do?" It'd be better for the answer to be something than nothing, though it can be a small something.

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He has no idea what he wants. He wants Carissa to be okay, but he can't ask her for that

"...I want to not miss you. Sorry, I– this is where I run into the fact that I have no idea how to - be emotionally attached to people in normal ways instead of by fighting the gods together. Now is not the time for that, and I– and it would be nice if I could...feel close with someone...in other ways that were less exhausting. - To be clear it remains the case that I do not need anything from you, just, I suppose I want to feel like you care about me and are glad I am here. Assuming you are glad of that. I honestly have very little idea how people who have normal interpersonal relationships convey that sort of thing without fighting gods together." 

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"'m yours. Not forever, not once I put myself back together again, then we can be allies who trade like lawful gods, but right now I'm yours. I'm glad you're here."

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Snuggle. "I would not really have expected to - like having anyone be mine - but having a Carissa be mine even temporarily is quite an honor."

Not that he has the slightest idea what to do with a Carissa being his, and he's really quite sure that he doesn't want Arbas' advice on the matter either. 

"...If you are mine then I suppose I can ask you for things I would like? You could give me a backrub so that I can try to relax, since we are safer here than anyone is anywhere else in the Empire. Though if you do that it is entirely possible I will fall asleep in your bed." 

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" - yeah, okay." That's so simple and concrete and uncomplicated and she's safe and she'll think more....tomorrow. Maybe.

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Altarrin sleeps more soundly than he has in two months. (The Ring of Sustenance means that even after disturbed sleep he feels rested, but still.) 

 

Carissa doesn't have to think in the morning either, if she's not ready, though Altarrin will need to try to get creative about concrete uncomplicated requests for things he actually wants. He probably can't just ask Carissa to hug him and give him backrubs and coax him to actually eat food, which he mostly hasn't been bothering to do since the Ring of Sustenance kicked in again. But he's not going to push her on anything until she indicates clearly that she's ready for that. 

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Carissa is feeling a little better in the morning, though not so much better that she wants to jump into the debrief. She's perfectly happy to be asked to give backrubs and eat food. Altarrin feels like a safe person to be around and she really really doesn't want to try to bite off all the complicated things.

"I would've guessed Arbas would do this but I would've expected you to be too Good," she does say over breakfast.

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"It is not really the way I prefer to operate with my allies! But...it does not usually come up, that I can make someone more powerful by deceiving them. I judged it would be far safer for you to consider returning to Jacona once you had access to spells that the Inquisition has no knowledge of – Arbas says that you will be able to cast antimagic fields and that is gamebreaking, here. I - decided I could probably trust Arbas' judgement that you would not be angry, and...I decided that if you were angry with me over it, at least you would be angry with me and also safer than before. Framed that way, I - suppose it was obvious that I would not endorse trading you liking me off against your ability to protect yourself." 

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"Yeah, I'm not angry because - I absolutely instructed you to make tradeoffs like this, where it came up. I want to be safe. I do - uh, I'm not looking forward to something like this happening to me several more times - it's not the pain, it's the - rewriting myself over and over, I worry that it's ...lossy...

...and I made a serious oath about loyalty to the Empire while not able to reason or notice I couldn't reason, and that's a scary thing to realize I can be steered into, I don't have a policy for it exactly."

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"That makes sense." He reaches to squeeze her hand, briefly to avoid interfering with breakfast efforts. "Would you consider that oath fulfilled - or discharged - if Bastran were willing to say that the highest loyalty to the Empire would be to follow your own judgement and pursue your best plan for fixing this world? Because that was the goal of the Empire and I think even Bastran realizes it is falling very, very far short."

Altarrin looks thoughtful. "...I am also wondering if it is worth training a habit of caveating all of your promises and commitments and expressions of future intentions with 'if reality is as I believe it to be'. I - do have a habit of caveating most commitments I make, though - not the promises I made to you, I do think it is useful, sometimes, to make an irrevocable commitment even if you do not and cannot yet have full certainty - but deliberately, I think. Also, I am sure my process of incarnating into a new body is lossier than this and - it does take years of re-orienting, and centuries of having kept detailed notes to review, but I make it work and I would be happy to teach you my method." 

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"Oh, I'm free of the specific commitment now, because Bastran has opportunity to place new compulsions if he pleases, and I wasn't promising anything more than what those compel. I'm just - worrying about the general case, and a habit of caveats is probably the right way to do that as long as I can't be made to forget that."

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"I have not actually tested whether Arbas could make me forget engrained mental habits like that. I - do suspect that letting me follow them but with faked inputs would be easier to manage than blocking everything and then also blocking my ability to re-orient to working in an impaired state and also having me do anything even slightly creative. And if someone less aligned with our goals than Arbas wanted to do it to me in order to extract useful work, he would have a difficult time with that and would be better served by just making an explicit trade with me. ...I am the sort of person who will work with people even if their overall goals are opposed to mine, if they are Lawful enough to hold to deals they make and offer me something I value in return. There are certainly downsides to being this sort of person, but arguably an upside is that many possible enemies can achieve more of what they want by working openly with me." 

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Nuzzle. "Too complicated for right now, 'm being very stupid. Maybe talk to me about that tomorrow."

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"Right, of course." 

 

Altarrin...is actually very bad at conversation topics that aren't intellectually complicated, it turns out! If Carissa seems to tolerate it, he can talk over his work on the communication-spell artifact that allows a non-mage to use it. Currently he's got it to the point that if a mage initiates and holds one end of the spell with a matching artifact – and he's only figured out how to do them in specific pairs, not a directable networked system like the permanent Gates – then the un-Gifted recipient can respond. 

He'd really like to figure out a way for the un-Gifted recipient to start the conversation – or, even better, for two un-Gifted participants to be able to have a long-distance communication this way – but it's much harder. He can talk a bit about the technical challenges remaining; he doesn't particularly need Carissa to be following everything, or offering advice, he just really likes talking about magic research. (And even with only a +4 headband, Carissa is still smarter than him.) 

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She's in fact mostly not following but it scratches the itch for Altarrin to be smart and careful enough she's allowed to feel safe around him. 

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"Exhausted and resting, I imagine! He is not actually a very strong mage and he had to pretend to be an Adept for you. Also he has been pushing his Thoughtsensing very hard for most of the last two months, he had to be reading you in detail without letting on for most of his waking hours."

Slight smile. "I think he is quite pleased with himself, though. He says that you both think you reached sixth circle less than halfway through the operation, and higher circles get more expensive but you probably made at least some progress toward seventh. Oh, and of course he got to have you to himself for two months while I was in Jacona doing boring politics, he is going to be infuriatingly smug about that for weeks. He finds you very shiny, you know." 

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"I did know that. I thought about - he let me think about - how profoundly I was letting myself be dependent on him, how he was almost definitely sculpting me for his purposes and narrowing my world to be all him - but he wanted me alive -

- I'm very scared of him right now for some stupid reason -

- I have a lot of very complicated feelings, actually, but I don't think he should've done anything differently. I may just not be very good at - uh, I think that the things I look for and need in romantic relationships are generally correlated with things that are a terrible idea, I already knew that, and I'm Chelish, I knew that, and I'd often rather be forced into things than admit I want them, but it's also very scary not to be in a position to protect myself, if I can't trust other people to be protecting me, and if I can but I didn't have a justified belief that was the case then that feels very weird - sorry, I don't know where I was going with this - I'm glad he's pleased with himself -

- were the politics in Jacona really so boring? No one is actually trying to kill Bastran or you or me? It felt plausible given - everything that'd happened -"

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“Certainly no one made a very high effort attempt. We did execute more people than we usually do in a year, but - paranoia.”

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“I think maybe I am just tired of court politics, and - am unfortunately still not very replaceable. At least according to Bastran.”

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"Maybe you should start picking up wizardry. You can craft things secretly when conversations are boring, once you have a fancy enough headband to split your attention."

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“That would certainly improve all the routine meetings where a dozen ministers need to agree on a bill. I would have to give up Splendor but - I am not sure I actually like wearing that headband, either, and it is not like I desperately need it for any meeting where I would want to be multitasking anyway.”

He smiles brightly at her. “And if you craft yourself a new +6 headband, you could give me your +4.”

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"I could! I also need to get the Emperor a very nice present, but it probably shouldn't be an intelligence headband, that sends the wrong message."

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“He could really use a +6 for Wisdom but he would hate it and it also sends a questionable message. Splendor, maybe? Or an item for Detect Thoughts, it is quite good — I requisitioned Merda’s, it does not not always get through on shielded mages but it relieves my paranoia massively to be able to read the servants. Or - are there more powerful ones you will be able to figure out at sixth circle?”

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"It has to be fancier than anything I've given you and especially anything I've given Merda - did you take hers permanently, do I need to make her another? I'm trying to think about what magic items an Emperor would wear, at home - maybe a Helm of Telepathy, it does Detect Thoughts at will and allows you to use it for Mindspeech as well, and you can use it to implant a Suggestion - and a mantle of spell resistance, and probably at least one ludicrously powerful thing no one knows yet that my magic system does..."

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“Oh, a Mindspeech imitation would be excellent for him! The False Life option would also be good but is not exactly glamorous, he hates being reminded that people want him dead. Hmm - is there anything that would interact with music? It is not the most strategically valuable, maybe, but it would make him very happy.”

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"Probably. It's not something I saw a bunch at the Worldwound, I'd need to think about it, but I have time. And lots of spellsilver. I think - some gifts that are for him as a person, from Caris, and some gifts to the Emperor from Carissa who I'd really like people to parse as one of his not incredibly threatening and dangerous subjects."

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Nod. “What are some of the spells I would have no idea are possible because you could not cast them before?”

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"I've been withholding a lot, honestly. Not from Arbas once I surrendered, but before that - I never showed you a Rope Trick, I didn't mention the shapeshifting until I wanted to use it, I didn't mention I could do it to other people either...there's a bunch of spells I haven't reinvented but probably could. I could create temporary simulacra of people, I could kill people in a bunch of different ways some of which I think go through Velgarth shields, like a illusion that scares people to death, I can turn into an elemental and burrow through the earth or breathe underwater, there's a better flight spell I can have active continuously, I can make an immersive illusion that seems real to all senses and hit people with it from a thousand feet away and leave them trapped in it for a few hours...and all of that's before I hit sixth circle, which is the threshold where some people would say wizards really get scary."

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Altarrin looks, briefly, very tired, but now probably isn't the time to go over all the ways that Bastran will inevitably be tempted to use Carissa's magic to secure greater control of an Empire that he's not really sure is net positive in the world at this point. He sets the thought aside. 

"The elemental spell would be rather spectacular, and the illusion spell would also make a flashy gift for Bastran if you can give it to him in an artifact - and potentially useful, too, if it can catch everyone in a certain range and he can trigger it if he is under threat and wants the assailants captured alive. ...What about sixth circle spells? Arbas says you need to rederive all of them, but - time dilation? That was one you mentioned and it would be incredibly useful." 

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"Psychic Asylum! I've only heard of that one, not seen it cast, so it might take me a while, but in principle it'd let me, when startled, instantly retreat to a mental space I constructed, do fifteen minutes of preparatory work, and then return. Or the wizard who claimed he could do that was lying, there's always that possibility.

At sixth circle I can turn into a dragon. I can make magic items temporarily people. I can cast various things I can already cast, but on everyone in the vicinity rather than a single target - Bull's Strength, Bear's Endurance, for combat, or Suggestion, to make everyone obey some instruction. I get Geas, which is very visible and mostly worse than compulsions but potentially permanent and probably impossible for Velgarth magic to modify. Same thing with combat spells, not that I've really focused on those - I can levinbolt everybody instead of just one person, stuff like that. I get Contingency, which I'm planning to use to Dimension Door out whenever someone casts magic on me unexpectedly. and telepathy, and Mage's Decree which lets me make announcements to everyone for miles around. I can Teleport the unwilling. I can Teleport instantaneously to safety instead of needing to cast a spell someone else might interrupt.

- I genuinely think Bastran might not prefer to push me to seventh."

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"Bastran might prefer not to, but I would prefer you as powerful as possible - not to mention I genuinely think it would better serve the Empire though obviously we should not spread around how powerful you are - anyway, I am better than Bastran is at winning arguments." Altarrin, finished with his plate of food, slides his chair closer to Carissa's and puts his arm around her. 

 

"So for Psychic Asylum, your body stays where it is but no time passes outside your mental space? That is so odd and also I want it very badly. And Contingency, too, if that can be put in an item or cast on other people. Arbas mentioned Geas, it - could be useful for containing enemies we would rather not kill. Could you say more about what the simulacra of people can do – actually, first I want to hear more about making magic items into people, and what that is good for, though - it seems sort of horrifying if it is necessarily temporary...

 

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"It'd be distressing to know you were about to die but hardly better to have not existed in the first place! And I know vanishingly little about all of these spells, you have to understand, I occasionally tried to copy down spellforms for fourth circle spells in case I made it that far, but not sixth. I heard people bragging about them, and some of those people might've been lying; that's all we have to go off. Simulacra... aren't very good, honestly, they mostly just look like you and can follow a script for conversation, but they might be a good way to test the waters on my return to court, if we want me to return at all under my own face rather than picking a new one."

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"I think if I had the option of not existing at all or existing for a brief period of time entirely at the whim of some random wizard and without enough time to pursue any of my goals, I am not sure I would prefer to exist! I suppose unless that is enough for the thing where you end up in another world if your consciousness ceases, but I still suspect many possible people would not feel they had opted into that!"

Shrug. "It - sounds like it might take years if not decades for you to even really take advantage of sixth circle spells. So - whether there is a rush to level you further depends largely on whether we can figure out an immortality method for you that does not require anything more advanced than sixth circle, even if it is an Evil one we intend to replace later it will still act as a deterrent to the gods. Do you have ideas?" 

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"I ...suspect it can be done with the combination of our magics at sixth circle, but I don't actually have a specific pathway in mind. I don't know any Golarion wizards to have done it at sixth circle, and might guess it'd take more, but - it's not as if people advertise it, right - especially if it's done evilly.  

I do think I could make a magic item that traps my soul when I die, which is one of the steps of the problem here, and probably worth developing as a priority since then in the worst case scenario you have my soul."

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"I want you to prioritize that. Not until you are - recovered from all of this - and probably not more urgently than the headband, or than making me and Bastran harder to kill, it sounds like it would be a long spell development project anyway, but - I would feel much better about everything else. And even that by itself would be a deterrent to god-murder, I think." 

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"Mmmhmm - okay. I think I'm - ready for a debrief on everything, now, actually, I haven't noticed myself feeling scared to think about it. What - actually happened, day by day -"

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"...I need to get the notes. Do you want Arbas there for his side of it, or - would you rather not have to think about Arbas for another few days until you have a chance to deal with the flinch reactions about him? He did document everything quite thoroughly, I can cover that." 

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"You should get him. I doubt he'll mind that I'm a bit scared of him."

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"He will be meticulously professional about it." 

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Arbas explains the compulsions he placed Carissa under before Altarrin woke her with a staged message! He moderately impaired her most common metacognitive patterns around flagging confusion and suspicion, and made sure to loop her thoughts away from the scheme Abrogail used on her and the Conspiracy with Keltham, memories that could have led her to question whether what she was experiencing was reality. 

(It was really Altarrin on the comms spell; there wasn't even much acting skill involved, since the communication-spell conveys very little tone or other nonverbal signifiers. The staged scene when she scried Altarrin was harder to set up and required his Splendor headband and lots of coaching from Arbas, though of course Arbas also directly shaped how Carissa interpreted it.) 

Later on, for the most part - except during the final fight scene when Carissa had Nondetection up - he was able to nudge her in real time toward certain interpretations of the facts rather than others. He mostly didn't nudge her toward feeling helpless or despairing, or in the opposite direction, the emotions she felt about her interpretation of the situation were nearly all her own. He slightly nudged her emotional reactions to him because it made the job of acting like someone suddenly freed of compulsions, while in fact still being under all his usual loyalty compulsions, somewhat easier.

(He is being meticulously professional and does not say that it made the sex much hotter.) 

 

Rosha played herself; it wasn't a very difficult role and Arbas could tweak Carissa's mind to cover for any missteps. The initial "crowd scene" was Arbas and the two newly dispatched mage-guards, though he had them wear masks just in case Carissa might have seen them when visiting the Emperor as Caris. Arbas, courtesy of the Alter Self wig, played the other captors who showed up, Carissa may note he was careful not to have them appear at the same time. 

The details of the fictionalized coup were cribbed almost entirely from one of the contingency-planning wargame scenarios, with some bonus random incompetence thrown in. They had planned the scenario in advance up to the point when Carissa would, they assumed, find a way to break Arbas out; if Carissa hadn't gone down that path on her own, Arbas could have nudged her. After that it was more freeform, though he certainly had guesses about how Carissa would approach Altarrin being "trapped" in the capital. Arbas did have to nudge Carissa pretty hard on making the magic item rather than accompanying him, for obvious reasons - he wanted to keep the game contained to the secure facility - and because it let him add another month of very difficult crafting under pressure, he's not sure how far that plus the final fight scene got her towards seventh circle but it's got to count for something. Anyway, if Carissa wants to reassess her judgement calls with the information she had at the time and not under mind control, that's a good candidate. 

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" - huh. You know, the bit that stands out to me is actually scrying Altarrin in the palace, when we knew he was under supervision and didn't have a good plan if they showed up in force. I should have thought of the many reasons to not do that and been more suspicious that you were suggesting we do it, and even if I didn't notice the reasons in advance I certainly noticed them afterwards and should've wondered why we'd made such an unforced error."

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"We considered arranging to have them 'show up in force', actually! Altarrin argued against because we'd've needed a lot of theatrics to make it look like fifty people, couldn't actually bring in fifty people. If we do this again later it won't have to be so low-budget, could make it more convincing with less cheating in your head." 

He digs in his notes. "- Altarrin wanted to veto that for implausibility, actually, he said I could just report verbally to you that his office turned out to still be scryable. I said, if I was doing this at all I wanted to hit the right dramatic notes, you had to see him with your own eyes." 

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Altarrin laughs. "I am not sure that training yourself to be suspicious of anything that too closely matched Arbas' artistic style would generalize as a mental skill, but he would deserve it if you did." 

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"I did manage to have the thought that he had - a very tight grip on me, that everything I knew about what was going on I knew through him - I just didn't follow it very far. It was - very well done," she adds to Arbas.

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"I think I may...not want you to do this again. I do want seventh circle but - if I'm a more powerful wizard the cost of mistakes is much higher - I could've killed you -"

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Arbas laughs. "Wouldn't've been nearly as fun otherwise." 

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Altarrin doesn't bother to suppress a groan. "And that is a good point. I think - we figure out what you can do at sixth, derive all the spells you want – that may already take years – and then we consider what comes next." He shakes his head. "If we are waiting years anyway, it seems entirely possible that something else will go wrong and you may end up in a combat situation for real. Ideally with spells and items that our enemies have no conception of." 

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"I want to never run a substantial risk of death again until we've made arrangements, but after that I'm happy to go conquer things or whatever."

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Nod. "I think we can work with that. ...Anyway. If I were in your position, my next move would be to write down everything I remembered in order, and make a timeline of the decisions you made and your reactions to new information, and then compare that to Arbas' detailed notes and try to reason through how you would have reacted differently. And then you can figure out what new cognitive habits you might want to train in order to make this harder to pull off on you in future - if we are not really planning to do it again for more leveling then I think that is definitely worth working on. Does that make sense?" 

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"Yes. Maybe some practice, once I've had time to think, with noticing if Arbas is messing with me..."

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Arbas beams at her. "I would be delighted." 

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....Sigh. This is not exactly unprofessional in a way Altarrin can push back on, and it's not clear Carissa is bothered anyway. 

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He took all her ability to discern what was going on offline and then lied to her about an Imperial coup so he could torture her and have sex with her. Carissa has no complaints but she doesn't really think theirs is a 'professional' relationship at this point.

 

 

 

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And she'll get to work on the notes. It takes a while. At first the notes are self-flagellating in a way she can imagine Arbas telling her dryly is getting boring. It's easier to think about ways in which she is deficient as a person than about any other angles on the problem, and it's not often you get to discover your deficiencies in a way that entails no actual danger.

She practices checking, in her head, whether she can consider a question like 'am I in a Conspiracy?' and 'are my actions serving my ultimate goals' and 'am I impaired'? without difficulty.  

She crafts. Her +6 headband, mostly, but some protective items for Altarrin and Bastran as well, and a replacement Detect Thoughts item for Merda.

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Altarrin offers to review her notes with her. He doesn’t explicitly comment on the self-flagellation, but he definitely doesn’t give the impression of judging her for egregious mistakes. He has a lot of very specific, concrete diagnoses and advice for various possible errors in judgement. It sounds like it comes from personal experience. 

He’ll stay for a week. Overall he seems massively relieved just to be out of Jacona.

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"I think I should speak to the Emperor before I put myself back together any farther," she says to him when they're coming up on the point where he needs to go back to Jacona. "It - affects a lot of how I'm going to build myself from here. And if he's comfortable with it, I think it'll be a more useful conversation if my compulsions are at the action level not the thought level. He can obviously make me loyal once we've discussed it."

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“That makes sense. I had also wanted all of us to speak, together, about - plans going forward. I can ask him to block in a time to come out here. Tomorrow, probably.”

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"Thank you." Though she feels less than happy, somehow. 

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Altarrin has been paying a lot of attention to Carissa, lately, and he can sort of tell or at least guess. “Do you want to talk over anything first, or - plan how you are going to bring things up with him?”

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"I think I don't understand - what he wants, and therefore where we have common ground. I'm not opposed to the Empire, but it's - not what I'd do with power -"

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Sigh. “I think it is not what he would have chosen, either, if it had felt like a free choice to him. I think he is - aware that there is not really an obvious candidate who would be better than him, and - wanting the job of Emperor is generally not a good sign that someone will use that power well or responsibly. Honestly I think he would much rather not have that power at all, but he is loyal to the Empire, he has built enough of himself around it that he cannot just - decide not to prioritize it so highly.”

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" - he could, though! I'm sorry, I just - he could think about it and decide to do something else!"

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“I think I could in his position. Most people raised from birth in the nobility, with loyalty compulsions in place since they were old enough for it to stick, are…not going to be able to walk away so easily. - He is not going to be angry if you bring up that you think he should do something else. He might be sad but I think that is not your problem.”

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"I don't know if he should do something else, he's allowed to only care about the power of the Empire if that's what he wants."

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Nod. “I think he would be open to arguments that you are not an irreplaceable cornerstone of the Empire and do not owe it to him to commit your life to it. It - would be much harder to convince him that ought do anything other than serve as his Archmage-General for at least the remainder of my magic-extended lifetime in this body.” 

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"I wish I knew more about....how governments that aren't being Evil on purpose do things. I have no idea if that's a reasonable attitude or not."

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Shrug. "I think no one at court would think he was expecting something unreasonable or outside the usual norms? Or - that he could reasonably do anything else - he also has a compulsion in place to serve the Empire, though only one and phrased with a great deal of flexibility. Of course, that is - given the assumption that I am as I appear, there, someone born to the nobility and raised from childhood to serve the Empire. I - do think it makes a difference to Bastran that my involvement has been much more than that, that much of the original vision of the Founders was mine. I...am not sure it makes enough of a difference that he would - give me permission to leave." 

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"Right, everyone in your mind controlled empire thinks this is reasonable, but they're also not really allowed to think otherwise! What I'm curious about is whether - Osirion's Abadaran, right, I'd be kind of surprised if they enslave their senior advisors? Though probably some of them know too many state secrets to be allowed to literally just go wherever? Lastwall's unbearably Good, do they enslave their senior advisors? I'm genuinely not sure! I can imagine the paladin in my head going "the work we do is too important to just give people our blessing to walk away from it" or going "no, we are Good and slavery is bad" and I just don't have any idea which it is!  In the Lung Wa Empire was it legal for senior advisors to go decide to retire to religious seclusion? I think so! To retire to start a merchant house? I think not! But I don't - know the moving parts there either!"

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Altarrin looks thoughtful. "Compulsions are not as common elsewhere in places with fewer mages and worse education for them, and - certainly they are not as standardized anywhere else in the known world. I think lifetime oaths of service are quite standard, though, and - I imagine most rulers are strongly incentivized to lean on their top advisors not to randomly leave and start projects elsewhere." 

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"So maybe it's normal. I'm not saying it isn't, I just - wish I'd heard of any other places. 

I'd've let someone quit Project Lawful, if only because they were likely to fuck it up if they wanted out and were being forced to stick around, and because pretend Project Lawful was the kind of thing that'd let people quit."

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"I would certainly prefer to have created an Empire that worked that way! I...think, empirically, that is not the Empire I created. And I do feel significantly responsible for steering Bastran into the position he is in now, and...while knowing on some level, or at least - in a context where I could have known - that it would not at all be good for his personal flourishing."

He shakes his head. "I do think it is simpler with most people, who will predictably do a job badly if they are being coerced into it when they would rather not. I...think both Bastran and I are people who will do a better job than the next-best candidate anyway, and he knows that about me. It would harm the current functioning of the Empire on net, if I left, I just - think it is worth it anyway, on the timescales I am used to planning around. Whereas Bastran is understandably used to scoping his planning around his own lifetime and feasible avenues of influence." 

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" -were you, on some level, trying to - work yourself to death?"

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He looks thoughtful for a long time. 

 

 

"- I had not framed it that way, but - maybe. Or at least - trying on some level to convey to you that the situation was not stably sustainable? I am not sure - I did fall behind on recordkeeping, at least the kind where I look at the bigger picture and review my own decision patterns, that - should maybe have been a flag that something was wrong." 

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- nod. "All right. I think I'll - talk to the Emperor, and then worst case spend the rest of your natural life becoming very powerful and reinventing my world's magic, and - catch up with you later."

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"...I have a century or more in this body with the standard life-extension magic if I avoid assassination. I really, really do not want to spend the next century entirely dedicated to being Bastran's Archmage-General, and - I think I can persuade him in much less than a century that it is not the ideal use of me even from a narrow perspective on the Empire's flourishing. But...I suppose we will see." 

 

And he'll contact Bastran and schedule a meeting time the next day. 

 

That evening he doesn't seem stressed about it exactly, certainly not scared, but he is radiating vague misery again. 

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Carissa will lean on him. She's been being more unapologetically affectionate; he hasn't rebuffed her about it yet. "I think we can make this work, for what it's worth. And if you're stuck for a century then that's a century in which we can lay lots of plans that won't get an immediate response from the gods because they'll be on too long a horizon to be visible to Foresight."

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He hasn't rebuffed her! If anything he seems appreciative and grateful for the physical contact, though perhaps slightly confused about this fact. 

"I know. And - at the very least I can delegate, it will not take me that terribly long to train up some assistants and - maybe a decade, to groom a replacement candidate for Archmage-General. The compulsions do make it harder but - I think I could do a better job of working around them than I have to date - I have been trying to take the time to think about strategies for that this week, since I have a rare opportunity to think without them. I - am leaning toward not having Arbas replace them until I actually return to the capital, the conversation with Bastran seems easier without them and he did sign off on this. - Arbas asked me to put his back days ago, I am not sure if he mentioned. He said it turned out that he disliked not having the compulsion for loyalty to Bastran." 

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"That makes sense. Mortals are not actually very good at - relating to our goals the way we mean to, even when they're really ours -

I'm terrified of being made subject to the Emperor again but I'm not going to - make that his problem - I'm just going to try to help him figure out what he wants -"

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Lean. "What consequences are you afraid will happen? I - think it might be useful to go into the conversation with at least both of us being on the same page, I assume it would affect his goals as well as yours." 

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"I'm just really attached to my present goals and my goals being changed is a lot of power and capacity directed at other goals I don't have, and not necessarily in a retrievable way, if it's done well, since I won't want to change back. I want the ability to make promises and mean them and it doesn't play very nicely with other people being able to sculpt my priorities at will. I think most people get away with having other priorities besides their compulsions - or for that matter just other priorities besides their top compulsion - because they're muddled in a way I'm not reliably muddled."

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"...Huh. My top compulsions is to obey direct Imperial orders, and I think most of my top priorities are not that. And that I am usually not very muddled, although perhaps the last several months have been...not my best showing...on the not-being-muddled front. But - I suppose overall I do not think of the compulsions as - the kind of thing that even can change my underlying priorities, as opposed to just - constrain how I can pursue those priorities." 

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"I can - try thinking about them that way? Maybe that's how they work if you know how they're supposed to work. I think my original ones were - making it seem important to serve the Empire, not just constraining me to courses that no one would call disloyal to the Empire -

- or, I could've thought of it the latter way, but then it would've been harder to refuse to surrender until it was safe -"

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"I - have the sense that in general, you may do more shifting around of your internal sense of priorities based on what you judge is safe? I think I shift my actions, obviously, but not my ultimate goals – though also I would probably not have survived living in Cheliax, I understand why this feels like an important move. And maybe the Inquisition would want you to do that before they felt comfortable, but I really think that 'making the Inquisition comfortable' should not feature among our top fifty priorities here. Bastran is not going to ask that of you. Or me. He - is not upset that I think our highest long term priority is to build a god. He just - thinks that if I were to leave now we would probably lose Taymyrr and that would be costly." 

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"Costly how? For who? What do you need Taymyrr for? - it probably doesn't specifically matter -"

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"Having Taymyrr pacified would make it less costly to hold onto Oris. Which - is sort of circular, I know, why does the Empire need Oris so badly, it is not even net-positive on food and natural resource exports yet. I think partly the previous administration in Oris was genuinely much worse for its citizens in many ways and partly it - just looks bad, to be the Emperor whose administration is losing rather than gaining territory. And of course the situation at court is more stable when there are new governorships and other such prizes to hand out." 

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"Yeah." Sigh. "I don't know how to think about this if you're not going to be wildly principled and say not to conquer countries unless they start it. I guess in some ways I'm - glad that you think the Empire would fall apart without you, that seems better than it being - sticky -"

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"...I think it it stickier than I would prefer, actually, if I left now with no preparatory steps I suspect there would be a bad few centuries and then it would stabilize into some new equilibrium, which might be less expansionist but I am not sure. If I were founding a country now I would not push a policy of expansion, but - I think it looked very different at the start, when the land we were conquering was not even countries yet, and if I were doing it again I would know that expansionism is sticky as a policy, but - might still have been justified, people were starving..." 

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"And you need geographic distance from the gods' areas of power, probably. I'm not saying you did it wrong for your goals; I don't know."

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Shrug. "It would be so much simpler if I were sure the Empire was - doomed, or that it will never get better than this, or that the world would be better without it. I - think overall if I were free to choose, I would choose to move on, but - I would be giving something up and it would not be mostly me who paid the cost." 

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"I guess we'll see what the Emperor's will is."

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"I suppose we will." 

And they're kind of talking in circles, so at this point maybe they can...stop doing that...and just cuddle, and get some sleep. 

 

 

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Bastran looks...older than he did the last time Carissa saw him, in some indefinable way that must have more to do with his manner and body language than anything related to lines on his face. His expression is surprisingly unguarded. He has the air of someone who isn't looking forward to this at all

 

He doesn't speak until they're in the conference room and Altarrin has raised extra shields. (Arbas is outside, acting as a guard in the hallway for the remote possibility that something happens, but he's not invited to this conversation; he already knows more of Altarrin's secrets than he really should, and his commitment to being utterly incurious about further details is the only reason neither Altarrin nor Bastran are panicking more about this.) 

"Carissa," he says, a little stiffly, once they're seated. "I - suppose I owe you that apology you had requested." 

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"Your majesty. I am owed nothing, but - I accept your apology, and I hope that what trust you placed in me you've found was warranted." It's not Caris's voice at all, and not the woman on the scry either. It's not a voice she particularly thinks Bastran wants from her. But - all of Carissa doesn't come out from behind her shell unless it's safe, or worth the danger, and this might be either but she isn't sure.

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Nod. 

"Altarrin says that if I want to ask for your service to the Empire, we need to - talk about what that would look like, and what kind of loyalty to the Empire would work for both of us. I think I...don't really understand what your hesitations are, but it seems important for me to get there." 

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"Your Majesty, why do you think people should serve the Empire?"

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He doesn't hesitate. "Because - even if it's flawed, and I know it is, I don't think anywhere in the world is better. Because right now the Empire is the only place where people can even sort of get temporary shelter from the gods. Because the only way the Empire is ever going to get better is if people who know what that would look like are here to fight for it." 

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" - why? What would go wrong if people who knew what they wanted the Empire to look like went and built a wizard tower a thousand miles away - or on this forsaken rock - and traded peacefully with the Empire?"

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"...I mean, this is the territory of the Empire. If you wanted to build a wizard tower here and be a magic researcher and sell us magic items, I am not sure how that is not serving the Empire. Is that - the sort of thing you want to do? The best thing you think you could do for the future of Velgarth?" 

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"I don't have many ambitions yet, Your Majesty, it hasn't seemed like the right moment. Or - I have the final pieces more than the beginning ones. I intend to become a Lawful god and give everybody afterlives. I don't know if I ought to do that here or somewhere else in Velgarth or entirely in a demiplane I control where no gods can reach me even indirectly, and I don't know if you want to let me achieve that or hasten me to it or stop me from it, and until I know that what's the point in deciding where I'll live?"

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Bastran opens his mouth. Stops. Closes it again. Frowns, then looks thoughtful for a long moment. 

 

 

"I - think I am having trouble - relating to that as...real, I guess. As something anyone could actually expect to try and succeed at, even someone as impressive as you. It just seems like, I don't know, not - actually the kind of thing humans can pull off - Altarrin is actually immortal and he hasn't done that, the thing he did was found the Empire! If you think I'm wrong, then - I might understand what you want here better if you can - explain why you think it's even worth aiming for." 

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" - well, people in the world I'm from can become gods. It's not easy, and you need more than a single mortal lifespan to do it, but you can learn how to make yourself immortal in a single mortal lifespan, and then you develop the art from there. I'm not as impressive as the people who pulled it off, yet, but I'm only 25 and haven't even started enhancing myself physically and mentally with Wishes, like I'll be able to do at ninth circle. 

And of course, Altarrin also thinks it'd be possible to build a god in your own magic system without my help, just far more costly; it seems really quite likely that combining both, we could arrive at something that's better than either of those options, but either of those options are in fact wholly satisfactory. 

Afterlives are harder. It might just make more sense or be much easier to enable resurrections cheaply and then set you up with an infinite space, I don't know.

There's - very few things that are actually too hard to do, just things that take a very long time and have many places where they go irretrievably wrong. And I'd be scared to take on one of those on my own, but I won't be alone the whole way. There's lots of impressive people in the world, more if you're handing out headbands. 

And even if it's much harder than I think, and I probably can't do it - I'd still work on it, because - because the alternative is literally that everyone dies forever? And maybe wakes up somewhere else but I am not convinced that makes it okay to die and lots of somewhere elses kind of suck."

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"I think she can do it. I think if you spent five minutes looking at her - rate of growth as a person - it would be obvious she can do it. It has been less than a year since she was approximately an ordinary Chelish citizen, a - third circle, right? - wizard who did not even realize her talent for spellcraft and item crafting was unusual. In that time she absorbed considerable dath ilani reasoning techniques, gained almost two levels in arcane magic, recognized that Asmodeus was opposed to human values and was immediately willing to put herself at great risk by making a plan to oppose him, and then ended up here. Where she survived an assassination attempt by the gods and leveled again – Carissa, how long does it normally take for wizards to go from third to sixth circle?" 

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"A decade's a pretty solid pace. You do get people who do it much faster, and they mostly still don't become gods, but I really feel very sure that I'll accomplish this, unless the Emperor's decision is to not permit me to do so, or there later turns out to be an easier way to solve the problem."

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Altarrin's expression stays level, but he reaches out and squeezes Carissa's hand tightly under the table.

"To be fair, I am not sure what would have happened if she had landed here on anyone other than me. ...The fact that she did land on me has some interesting implications about the goals of - whatever Power in the multiverse can send people places, if it is a goal-oriented process at all. She could easily have died before anyone could warn her about the gods or she could derive the risk for herself. But that is not what happened."

He leans forward in his chair. "And she is right, I could already have done it on my own – I will do it on my own, if something goes horribly wrong, and I will get her back no matter how long it takes – and then have her help getting everyone else back too. I think I would have realized I needed to do this sooner or later, even if Carissa never came to Velgarth, in hindsight I already had all the pieces I needed to realize that the Empire was too tightly constrained by outside factors to ever truly match the vision of the founders. But - she is also right that it will be so much less costly, if we do it together. And then the Empire can have the space it needs to - be a good place. To really be the thing that you have your loyalty aimed toward. When she reaches higher circles we will even have much more powerful time dilation and might be able to solve this before too many more human lifetimes pass, because - it is not worth rushing, it is not worth doing anything that will make it less likely to succeed, but people are still dying." 

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It's pretty clear from Bastran's face that he has no idea how to react to this. 

 

 

He rubs his neck. "....I'm concerned that the gods aren't going to like this, and - the Empire is under enough pressure from them already." 

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"Right, Your Majesty, that's an advantage of doing this somewhere else, it takes some pressure off the Empire. And I also want to experiment with - various approaches that would make it hard for the gods to see how to prevent this, like the deadman's switch when I surrendered - a pretty trivial implementation, that, but entities that are naively steering for more clarity in Foresight are very much possible to manipulate, and even if we assume the gods are smarter than that we can plan to do nothing notable on short timescales. And once I am immortal it will be very hard for them to change the ultimate result, even if they could delay. It's probably too late for them already, because Altarrin's seen my magic."

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"- Which is another reason to prioritize learning wizardry, actually, I keep procedural memory across lifetimes much better than episodic memory." 

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Bastran looks...kind of overwhelmed, actually. 

He clears his throat. "That...is an argument for you to leave the Empire - or at least stay in this part of it - and work on...a project that will strengthen the Empire only in the very long term. Which is not even unique, most fundamental scientific research has that nature, yours is if anything much easier to - assess in value." 

 

And Bastran hesitates. Gnaws his lip for a moment, then catches himself and stops. 

"I– are you going to tell me you want Altarrin too." 

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"I don't think I know anything about that which you don't already know, Your Majesty. Altarrin's presence would speed my work immensely, and make it much less likely the gods manage to destroy me. I take it he is also very valuable to you in his current role."

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"Very much so, yes." 

 

 

 

And Bastran abruptly looks - resigned, and sad, and almost bitter, and very very very tired. 

"...I want to say some things. I want - I know this is unreasonable to ask, but I want to be able to say them not as someone who has the power of life and death over both of you, because –because I'm human and I have feelings and I, I don't know how to think about this or talk about it and it's too hard if I also need to worry about all of my words having the full weight of the Imperial law behind them." 

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"It has always been my desire that you could come to speak to me openly, Your Majesty, with the weight of your office set aside for a time."

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Nod. (Bastran also vaguely hates it when people speak to him in - whatever manner and tone that was - but asking people to stop it is really not a reasonable request.) 

 

He sighs. Lets his head slump forward, resting his forehead in his palm. 

"I tried your headband on - the Owl's Wisdom one - when Altarrin was showing us the demo to pitch opening a mine. I– the first thing I realized was that I actually hate kind of...a lot...of the work I actually do. I love the Empire, I believe in the Empire, and in hindsight that's because Altarrin could always convince me of anything, and in hindsight that isn't even surprising because the man is seven hundred years old and also, you know, even at my age was the sort of person who'd end up finding a way to be immortal and swear a vow on the damned stars to fix everything and save everyone -" 

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"...Younger than you," Altarrin says, very quietly. "I - don't have the exact timeline - but I must not have been forty yet, when the Cataclysm happened." 

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"- Right. When Altarrin was a decade younger than me he'd already tried to save his country from poverty, with no one ever asking it of him, and found a way to live forever so he could keep doing it. I'm...not that kind of person. I don't know if I could ever be that kind of person but I certainly wasn't ever going to get there on my own against impossible odds. Altarrin told me I could do right by the Empire and he wasn't sure anyone else could do as well, and I believed him, and the worst part is that he might be right and maybe all the people who wouldn't hate it aren't actually the sort of people who have any business being Emperor." 

He tugs at his hair, restlessly. "And - I think maybe Altarrin regrets throwing his persuasion at that in particular, now, because he's decided to be disillusioned with the Empire, and he - he can square that, with having sworn to serve it, because he built this place and he knew what he wanted and it isn't this. I, I don't think this is what want, either, I - I just don't know. What else there is. And I think I'm going to lose Altarrin one way or another, because - because he can convince me of anything, and he's going to convince me I should care about our great-great-grandchildren who even I won't live to see and I should let him walk away from the real actual Empire so there can maybe someday be a different Empire that isn't mine and that lives up to his standards. And he's probably right and I kind of hate that, sometimes, that Altarrin is always right, even if I'm glad of it too because I couldn't have done this for the past twenty years if he weren't always right, except I'm going to have to, because he's going to convince me that he needs to leave with you and then I don't know what I'll do and I, I just–"

Helpless shrug. "I don't know." 

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Abrogail was having a lot more fun than that but I don't know that I recommend her methods, Carissa does not say. 

 

 

Is there a version of that which would be useful -

 

"Do you want the shapeshifting hat, so you can go pursue a career as a wandering musician in the extra hours the Ring of Sustenance gives you?"

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"I really don't feel like that would - solve the actual problem." 

And he looks plaintively at her. "When you were Caris, I - I liked you. I don't know if I could have fallen in love with you but it - felt like maybe - and it's never felt like that before. I don't know how much of it was pretending. Probably a lot of it was. I don't know if it was always going to be doomed, I'm - not very good at relationships, I think maybe being Emperor just dooms everything, but for a couple of days I thought maybe there was a...nice thing, there, that was real, for once, and I. Don't know. I expect I've very thoroughly ruined everything at this point anyway." 

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This conversation she has actually thought about. 

She takes a deep breath and closes her eyes. Then opens them again; she owes it to him to look at him. 

 

"I want you to let me go, let me build my wizard tower, where we can meet as equals. I will gladly swear or be bound not to kill you, not to work to bring about your Empire's destruction in your reign, but I want to be free. Because - Caris wasn't all pretending, but he can't be not at all pretending unless I answer to you only as a person who respects you and wants to see your Empire flourish. You have my life in your hands, and neither of us wants that, and I'll play the game for you either way if you ask it of me but you'll know it's a game, and so it really won't work.

I don't think you'll love me. In Jacona, I would have pulled it off, I bet, because I intended to make you my whole world, and give you everything you'd dreamed of, and I was going to be better at it than most people what with the shapeshifting and extradimensional knowledge. But if I'm off on my own, then my whole world is going to be - the whole world.

But there's something that I could never have given you in Jacona that it would delight me to offer you, as your ally, were I free."

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Bastran blinks at her, and then involuntarily starts laughing. "I - you do have a point...I need to think about it because, um, because I want that and also my shoulder Kastil is screaming very loudly about the concept of leaving Jacona to go, um. Meet my terrifyingly powerful wizard lover in his wizard tower." Even though this would be approximately the most romantic thing he can IMAGINE. 

 

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Altarrin is making an odd face. "You know, I never thought I would have a reason to say this, but my shoulder Arbas is pointing out that you are, actually, allowed to sometimes use your absolute power as Emperor and overrule your advisors in order to do the things you like. It does not all have to be selfless service to the Empire. Sometimes having nice things for yourself is - important, I think." 

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"This is.... possibly not the most advantageous thing to say from my position but - at the point where you send a sixth circle wizard off across the continent to do as they wish unsupervised, you're already betting everything on having read out of my mind an accurate impression of who I am and what I want. I would, at that point, be able to kill you if I wanted to whether you dropped by for dates or not. You've had Arbas look at every piece of me; you know I don't want you dead. But that's what you'd be relying on, not your security precautions."

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Bastran is now the one making a very odd expression. (It's his attempt to conceal the expression of 'that's one of the hottest things I've ever heard' because seriously why is he like that.) 

"I know." He looks into her eyes. "I'd like to borrow Altarrin's Detect Thoughts item and read your mind myself, and - I think I want to take off the weird loyalty compulsion you've got in place right now, and ask you without that. After I ask you for a vow not to just Teleport out of here, where I can see it - not that I expect you'll do that, to be clear, just - the principle is to be cautious even when it seems dumb." 

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Altarrin isn't wearing it right now but he does carry it on him. He glances over at Carissa. 

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"You have my word, presuming this situation to be approximately what it appears to be, that I will not Teleport from this office during this conversation, unless prompted by some external threat, and that in that case I'll return as swiftly as I reasonably can to your custody." She can't get a whole spellform out before a Velgarth mage can counterspell it anyway; someday she'll have Getaway, which is instantaneous, but not yet.

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He puts it on. 

 

"How much do you actually want to - work with the Empire, trade with us, be my ally? Versus, I guess, how much is that just a concession because you don't think I'll approve you going off to build your wizard tower otherwise?" 

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He really wants to ask this question of a different person, a person he can't find here no matter how hard he looks, the person she grows into when she's not mindread and when it's not safer to be small. She will of course genuinely try to extrapolate that person's answers, but there'll be pieces missing, in precisely the places where thoughts are too dangerous to think.

 

She doesn't actually know how good the Empire is, how much she cares if it falls to god-cult states, so long as enough remains for the god-project to commence somewhere out of the reach of the gods. It might be that it's much better than everywhere else, not just in - day to day standards of living, Altarrin talks about that, but in - potential for growth, potential to be a place where people can build Civilization to their own sensibilities. Most places aren't that, but it's a spectrum. It's ...not a spectrum along which the Empire looks particularly good. People can't change very much, when their minds are bound by magic. 

She has no trouble believing the god-ruled places are even worse. After all, Cheliax was. But ...the Empire isn't very good in her view, just the least bad thing. 

This doesn't mean she isn't sincere about wanting to trade with it. You can trade across even quite a gulf in priorities, and the Empire is clearly the kind of place - well, the Emperor is clearly the kind of person - you can trade with. Powerful wizards usually end up independent. They're hard for even a powerful ruler to truly control, and they want their own things. You don't become a powerful wizard if you aren't somewhat monomaniacally obsessed with some aspect of magic. Being an admirable powerful wizard, in the conception thereof in Carissa's heart, is being Lawful and possible to trade with, while you live in your wizard tower which rivals many nations in treasury and exports. 

(Cheliax kept a handle on its. But - a loose handle, much less of a handle than Bastran has on Arbas for a lot of people of the same character - and only because they were soul-sold.)

She wouldn't betray Bastran; he had the chance and didn't betray her, because he saw in her that she would return his cooperation. There's complicated theories here but this really isn't complicated; it is the sort of thing where the shards of Law in humans pull the same way as the true Law. She'd take some risks for him, if he asked it, though not readily the risk of having her values and priorities distorted for the rest of time. 


She's terrified of a compulsion that lays fine on everyone else but that catches the wrong edge of how Carissa sees the world. She can imagine laying waste to the whole world to strengthen his Empire, if she was bound to serve it as best she could and not able to lie to herself about whether a given plan did that. She's terrified too that he'll tell her he can't allow the god project, that he'll kill her if that's really what she means to do. She'll promise not to do it, in that case, and hold to the promise, but - it'll be so much lost forever.

She knows that if she were not afraid of him she would admire him, enjoy his company, enjoy surprising him. She is terrified of him, so this is an abstract feeling, sort of like a memory, though in fact in her memories of being Caris she was mostly trying to invent a new kind of sex on the spot rather than contemplating his character. 

She did, sincerely and with uncomplicated intent, intend to love him, before, to memorize him and amuse him and accept him and surprise him and be a dozen lovers for him and bear him children; she doesn't think it makes sense to do that, now, not because she wouldn't if commanded but because he'd have to command it and she understands him enough to know that'd ruin it. 

 

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Bastran - is going to flinch away from that final thought because he really cannot be thinking about that at the same time as the future of his Empire. Feelings, box

 

"You thought Altarrin wished he'd built dath ilan," he says, slowly. "Or at least - his version of it. A place where people can build Civilization to their own sensibilities. Honestly dath ilan doesn't feel...plausible, to me, it doesn't feel like something you can build out of humans, but. Can you - imagine what the thing Altarrin wants - the thing you want, that's - in that direction, could look like, in this world?" 

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" - I don't know. I've - never been a place that was good. I've never seen one. But if you - didn't have to fear assassination at all, if I had a demiplane with clones for you so you could wake up and walk away, and didn't have to mind control everyone just to stay alive - that'd be better -"

 

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Nod. "But - not just for me, right? You want that to be the world for everyone in the Empire. ...In the world, I guess, probably once we have - the power to do that - we can get that for everyone in the world more cheaply than by having to conquer them. Conquering places is - bad. I know we do a lot of it and - I think the people in Oris and Taymyrr will be better off for it in twenty years - but I'm not blind, I know it hurts people." 

 

 

...He looks down at his knees. "I don't– Altarrin can do that. Be - responsible for the whole world. I'm scared that even if I weren't bound to serve the Empire specifically, I don't know how to - carry that much. Why do you think you can?" 

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"Well, I mean, I'm going to make myself immortal first, and then my allies and my friends, but - I can't really imagine that after that -

- I'll go walking down the streets and I'll see people going about their lives and I wouldn't want to leave them without an afterlife, any more than I'd want to strike them dead on the spot, right? It's not - a burden to take up, it's not like realizing you need to fight Asmodeus and might lose. It's just, you know, if you want buildings and you're not a thief you have to build them, if you want countries and you're not a warlord you have to build them, if you want the world to be nice and you're not a god you need to build one or become one or intimidate one into submission and you won't have nice things until then -"

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Bastran nods. Shakes himself a little, as though to clear his head – it keeps feeling oddly as though the conversation is sliding down a hill, like he can't stay balanced on the actual concrete decisions that need to be made here and now. 

 

Focus. Now isn't the time to try to wrap his head around the concept of a centuries-long plot to overthrow and replace the gods or to dwell on how badly he wishes he could leave everything behind and go with them.

"I don't actually think you want to kill me, or harm the Empire, but - everything about the Empire is built around not relying on that, and - if I can be tricked by the gods into killing you, probably the reverse is true as well. Are there compulsions, or - other commitment measures - you'd be willing to agree to?" 

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"I have no objection to compulsions not to kill you or help anyone else do it; I do expect that compulsions I get won't stick, because I want the ability to Dispel Magic myself sometimes, as is extremely useful when I'm doing experimental spell development, and because even if you forbid that I'm going to invent an antimagic field at some point, and conceivably get a familiar who can spellcast for me, and conceivably spend a bunch of time in forms with different brains and I'm not sure how that affects compulsions. I also have no objections to giving you my word that I won't kill you or try to bring your death about, either 'at all' or without some kind of external checks that it's in fact the right thing to do like because you've gone mad in your old age and I can't fix you. I'm also willing to just give you my word I'll stay out of the Empire outside authorized excursions, if you want that."

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"Do you expect things to go better - both from your perspective and from mine - if you're in contact with the Empire and can come and go freely?" 

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"Probably. I want to recruit apprentices, at some point, and buy supplies, and all of that is easier to do without involving intermediaries if I can travel freely. But it's not a terribly costly precaution. Honestly, from my angle, the likeliest way the gods arrange to use me to try to kill you is by some other Velgarth mage being able to compulsion and subvert me, and so close relations with the Empire seem probably protective, as does having Altarrin, as do some obvious things like not inventing Phantasmal Killer even though it'd be convenient to have."

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"...I would, actually, appreciate if you're willing to not prioritize inventing assassination spells. And if you're willing to commit to telling me what spells you have, and providing defenses against them if you can. I - understand that you want to be able to hold your own in a fight, just..." 

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"No, I'm pretty much with you there, if we assume that we're forced into unlikely situations then the unlikely situations where my ability to easily kill you is useful seem probably scarcer than the unlikely situations where it's either directly a liability because someone has power over me or indirectly a liability because it causes you to freak out and kill me. I'm not going to develop Phantasmal Killer or any arrows of slaying, though I am going to develop Antimagic Field because that has very broad utility, and I'm not sure what the best protections against it look like. I guess you can have some guards who are trained in nonmagical combat?"

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"And wear nonmagical armor in high risk situations, and have nonmagical protocols for conveying a warning, or maybe a central ward that triggers an alarm if any of its nodes are suppressed by an antimagic field and drop out of contact... What is the maximum range of the spell, actually, is it small enough that someone could always just shout a warning, if they were not in a soundproofed room?" 

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"Yes, it's a ten foot radius. Also, wizards at home wear special hats which are turned into a harmless piece of cloth ordinarily but, if the magic on them is suppressed by an antimagic field, expand into a lead cone which covers them and blocks the antimagic field, which they can then Teleport out from. You could do that, though it would look very strange and there might be more security in pretending that I'm not in fact at large."

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Bastran bites back a snicker. "I could do that if I leave the palace, maybe? Wouldn't be conspicuous if I were wearing the full ceremonial regalia, assuming the cloth can look like anything, and I do usually dress up if I'm going out for a parade or something. I'm guessing it would have a magical signature, but most of my possessions do. ...Not sure we can realistically pretend you're not at large, anyway, if we're trading with you for new fancy magic items." 

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"It seems like the major options are pretending that you're holding me in prison somewhere and I'm making you items on demand, acknowledging that I'm free and trading with you, or pretending you had me killed and concealing the signature on all of the magic items with the spell Magic Aura, which I suspect I can figure out how to make permanent. Lying doesn't work on the gods, presumably, but it might forestall various court plots, and make spies for other countries less nervous or interested."

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"I worry that pretending I had you killed risks even worse plots if anyone learns it's not true, which they probably will even if you figure out Magic Aura, which to be clear sounds very useful anyway especially if it blocks the magical signature of Velgarth spells. I - think I can pull off having the public story be that you're still in my custody? Especially if you're intending to set up your facility here in the north anyway, and stay behind shields against Velgarth scrying, I can definitely spare Altarrin often enough to cast those for you. ...Does it have to be a tower, I'm not sure the climate is ideal for towers but you're welcome to take over this facility, or I guess any of the dozen others that aren't in use." 

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"It doesn't technically have to be a tower but I'm going to give myself some appalling polar melancholia if I live here full time. I guess I can Teleport between a secure facility here and an undisclosed wilderness somewhere where the sun rises."

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"Very bright magical lights do help with that! Though I suppose it is still not the same as the actual sun, and power input is an issue, this region is very low on ambient mage-energies. Unfortunately I am not sure there are any uninhabited but pleasant non-polar wildernesses that are not god-claimed territory, and I am not sure you would enjoy a tropical swamp full of biting insects and venomous amphibians much better than this region." 

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"Well, see, that's what the tower is for, so you're above biting-insect and venomous-amphibian range, up high enough the air is clean and cool and the sunsets are pretty. - I'm not set on a tower, and if I need to grit my teeth and work underground until I'm seventh circle and can work out of a demiplane, I will."

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"In that case I suppose I can recommend you some excellent uninhabited tropical-latitude islands. Though having a permanent demiplane would be excellent as well, once you can do that." He frowns. "Is your magic any good for construction, or are you going to want me to build you a tower as well?" 

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"Stone Shape will do it. Not quickly, but it doesn't take any condemned prisoners - oh, that reminds me of another useful thing I should be able to do, I can turn people to stone, and then use Shrink Item to make them very small and optionally made out of cloth. I'd need to do some testing, but I think neither of those transformations would kill them - they're both reversible with my magic - and then you can have them on hand to kill if you need the extra mage-energy unexpectedly." 

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Altarrin just looks thoughtful. "I am not usually in situations where I need sudden access to construction-project quantities of mage-energy, but it - might be worth setting up if I need to go into a combat zone again. I assume it will be a while before you have it, if you need to re-derive the spellform for it?" 

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"I do need to rederive it, but I've seen it, uh, intimately, and it's a high priority because I don't want to kill people when I can avoid it and I don't have many spells that will reliably be nonlethal. ...and it also seems related to soul-trapping, structurally and conceptually. I'd expect to have it in the next few months."

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Bastran rubs his chin. 

 

"All right. I want you to give me your oath that you won't work against the Empire, and I want you to agree to specific compulsions not to harm the Empire or try to assassinate me or, I don't know, sneak into the palace looking like other people without telling me first – probably a bunch of other things, I need more time to think about it. They don't need to be motivation-affecting, if you'd prefer not. I want you to agree to having Altarrin visit, I know he wants to anyway, and part of that will be checking them. I would like if you agreed to let Arbas read your mind once a month or so until we agree that's unnecessary, but I won't - force that, if you'd rather not. I'd like you you to swear that you'll tell me if you plan to do something that probably affects your compulsions. And I'd appreciate a warning, at least, if you intend to travel within the Empire proper, I'm unlikely to object but I want to be able to track god-threats and warn you if I think it's a bad idea. Does all of that sound - like something you can work with -?" 

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"Yes. We'll need it in writing, obviously, but - all of that seems very reasonable and compatible with my safety and my work."

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"I want a day to think it over. Altarrin can bring you everything in writing – Altarrin, you're coming back with me now, right?" 

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"Thank you, your majesty."

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Rosha goes with them. No one exactly needs Healing here, after all. 

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Arbas stays. He's friendly at supper, but mostly gives Carissa space; it's pretty clearly this is deliberate, and also somewhat reluctant, presumably on Altarrin or Bastran's orders. 

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Carissa is not an idiot and if Bastran is alive and still potentially sexually interested in her(...him) he is not going to flirt with people in the Emperor's employ.

 

She's got lots of crafting projects. She'll work on those.

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And Altarrin comes back the next day with everything they discussed specified clearly in writing and signed by Bastran, and Imperial permission from Bastran to change her compulsions. 

He's clearly trying pretty hard not to radiate misery, and even mostly succeeding. 

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"What's wrong?" she asks, once she's read the agreement closely and determined it's not "Bastran changed the terms."

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He glances at her, surprised, then shrugs. Sighs. "I did not want to - make this your problem, right now - just, last night I reminded Bastran that he had told me he needed six months, and two have already passed, and could we maybe start to plan an exit strategy. I offered to train the temporary replacement Archmage-General he assigned when they believed I was dead. He said he wanted me to commit to stay for at least five years. I...did not formally agree to that and I am not sure where that conversation goes from here." 

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"'m not sure if giving him a fancy Wisdom headband will help or not. I guess it depends why he's like this. 

Have you pointed out that you could have just left, if you hadn't - not wanted to do that to him and to the Empire - and we'd be happily away on an unfindable rock somewhere -"

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"I did say that we considered just leaving once you had dispelled my compulsions and I panic-Gated us out!" Altarrin puts his head down in his hands. "I think he...does not really believe me, he looks up to me and he has the trait where he assumes the best of anyone he admires and he considers 'loyalty to the Empire' an admirable trait and so how could I possibly not be loyal... I did not say it made any sense, just, that is my best guess at the underlying emotional process here." 

 

Another long sigh. "I am not sure if Wisdom would help but I am very sure he would find it unpleasant. I think - ultimately he is unhappy as Emperor, and I find it hard to blame him, it is stressful job even for someone who wants power, which he never, ever has. And of course that is much of why I pushed his candidacy at all, because men who want power are often the ones who will not wield it for Good. He...blames me, a little, I think, and probably on some levels feels that if he has to stay then I should have to stay with him, and - I am not even sure that is entirely unfair of him."


Altarrin stares into the distance. "Honestly, I wish I could get him out as well. I am tired of - collecting everyone I think most highly of and feeding them to the machinery of the Empire, if I were making the decision again today I am not sure I would judge it worth it. But I am not going to convince him unless I have a replacement candidate who would do just as well as him or better – which I do not – and perhaps not even then, he takes his loyalties and his oaths very seriously." 

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"I really don't understand why he hates the job so much - you know, this is for me to take up with him once I have a tower he can visit. Don't promise things before then."

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"I mean, I would not love his job either! Being Emperor involves far too much time spent carefully tracking political favors with deeply unlikeable courtiers, and far too little time to spare for interesting magic research. I would not hate it if I believed it were the best thing I could be doing for the world, but - I am not sure he does believe that, not really, not anymore. Which would explain the misery. It - is not very surprising that it would affect him, how obvious it is that want to be somewhere else." 

He smiles crookedly at Carissa. "And, yes, good luck. Do you want me to fix the compulsions now?" 

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"Yes, please."

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Altarrin trusts her. Carissa is just definitely not going to bolt the instant her loyalty to the Empire is no longer magically enforced. He takes everything off first, before starting on the list of carefully approved, action-blocking but not otherwise mind-affecting compulsions. 

 

He's very good at it, in a different way than Arbas, who is - well, sort of entirely specialized in the 'mind-affecting' direction. Altarrin's compulsions feel clean and precise and light, somehow, there are barriers standing between the inside of Carissa's head and certain kinds of trying to affect the world, but they don't press down on her mind. 

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Carissa believes these precautions to be reasonable, and anyway if she's flinchy it'll make Altarrin sad, so she remains calm and cheerful. Gives him a hug, when he's done. "You know how to reach me if you need anything. Other than the Emperor cheered up, I'm on that."

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He hugs her back, for kind of a long time, and then digs in his pocket and offers her a velvet-wrapped crystal focus. "The newest version of the communication-spell talisman. It still will not let you initiate, but - you have a spell to send short messages, right, if you need me to contact you? Tell me if you need anything. Minions, spellsilver, books, more artifacts, Gate-transport to locations you have not seen before to Teleport to - anything that would help. And - I will be free in a week, if you are ready to host a guest by then." 

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"I'd like that. You may have to put up with some construction dust."

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"I will not hold it against you." 

And he's going to take Arbas and the mage-guards with him, when he Gates back, unless Carissa wants any of them to stay as minions. Bastran was hesitant about this, especially given how vague Carissa has been about her exact plans for the wizard tower, but it feels like it sends very much the wrong message to leave her under guard by the Emperor's people. 

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She kind of likes the idea of being alone, actually. Well, she'll go crazy from loneliness, but there is a canonical way wizards who spend all their time doing wizard research fix that, and it's with a familiar, not with friends. She's planning to bind one this week. 

 

But there's some other stuff she needs to do first. 

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There's real safety in being weak. But not very much of it. In this world, all weak people die, eventually. Bastran is not entirely not her adversary, here, but he doesn't want her weak. She'd thought he might, right up through their final conversation; she'd been watching him, for signs that at a plain declaration of what she meant to grow into he'd regret that he hadn't already ordered her killed, maybe reconsider it. 

And once you've decided that you're going to grow up to be a god then all remaining smallness is definitely just a bad habit; whatever risks you incur by ambition, you're incurring them already, and they will eat you if you're not one step ahead of them.


Her head is hers. It shouldn't feel scary to think. It does, but it shouldn't, because not thinking is more dangerous, and you should only be scared of the most dangerous of your available options and not of everything that has ever gone wrong for you in the past, which if she survives is going to quickly get to be a very long list.

 

And - if she were anyone else on this stupid planet, and knew what would happen if and only if Carissa and Altarrin could do it - she would not want Carissa to be small. She would pray very fervently for Carissa to be powerful. And, relatedly, for Carissa to know that she is powerful, to want to be powerful, to be floating at the rapidly-expanding surface of her ambitions rather than running from them -

- it doesn't feel like she's done it yet, whatever she was trying to do, convincing herself of this -

 

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You can't really jump back and forth too much between being ambitious and not being ambitious. The habits of mind don't transfer, and -

- and in practice, it's a fact at this point about a small Carissa that she's a coiled spring, that she'll turn into something completely different as soon as you're not watching her, and that's threatening, that's dangerous, it's in some ways more frightening to a certain kind of person than just having a powerful Carissa in custody, because they can't extrapolate precisely who she'll be. If she's going to stop being small, that's it, she won't be small ever again, she might die of it but it is on the whole the route she's least likely to die of.

At some point, you just have to grow up, and surrender all the safety of not-being-worth-killing for the safety of not-being-possible-to-kill or not-being-possible-to-survive-without or not-being-possible-to-win-without, and really, that point passed a long, long time ago, only she didn't see it, because it doesn't serve Cheliax for people to have a clear picture of what makes them inconvenient to dispose of. Or maybe even that framing puts too much blame on Maillol and Abrogail; she did this to herself, in significant part, before she ever met them, and they never pretended they wouldn't be lying.

The best time to grow up would have been the moment Keltham landed on her. The best available time is now.

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She's thinking a flying familiar, it remains her main strategic advantage over local wizards that she can fly and they to a first approximation can't. A bird or a bat. She won't advertise their existence and they'll have the ability to cast her spells for her; she should be able to arrange for them to hold on to a Dispel Magic to hit her with if anyone else hits her with anything, until she's arranged to do the same thing with Contingency. She asked Altarrin for the best uninhabitable swamps and will fly around for a while, pick a location, but she doesn't want to build it until she's mastered Permanency and Mage's Private Sanctum, so it can be unscryable from the minute the first stone lands on the foundation. In the meantime,  living out of Rope Tricks never hurt anyone, and hers can now be extended so they last nearly a full day -

(She does, in fact, want to get out of this place, with the low ceilings and dim light and no windows; it will be the setting of all her nightmares for a long time. She can come back once she's had a vacation.) 

She packs up. She Teleports. She wonders what the gods see; she suspects, whatever it is, it makes them nervous.

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Altarrin works.

 

Bastran can have his service to the Empire. He hasn’t made any promises, not beyond “six months”, but in the meantime he’ll serve the Empire with as much dedication and care as he ever has.

….For a reasonable number of candlemarks per day. Twelve candlemarks is already working very long hours, for a man his age, though the Belt of Constitution makes it easier. He needs to set aside two candlemarks to sleep, and will generously allow himself another two for meals and exercise and the sort of reading that counts as leisure, for him. It’s more than he really needs, even, to make this sustainable.

The remaining eight candlemarks each day are his. 

 

 

He works on Carissa's immortality. Start from an assumption that Carissa will provide, from her end, some kind of artifact that will trap and store her soul. That makes his work a lot easier; no need to fiddle with building impossible structures in the Void, he just needs a way to stick Carissa's soul in a new body. Ideally not a body that already belongs to someone else, but pending Carissa reaching 8th circle, none of the other options are great either. Sticking her in a magic-altered animal body is preferable to gluing her to an artifact or doing the combined-artifact-and-fetus plan, but it's also a much higher setup cost and at some point he'll need to collaborate with a Healer on it. For now he'll track down old records, obtain some rats for experimentation, start working on re-learning those techniques. 

 

And he works on defining the problem of how to create a god. 

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It's definitely possible. He's not sure it would even be that hard if the power input were solved and if one didn't care too much about the exact final shape of the god at the end of it. Inconveniently, he does care very much about that. 

 

Golarion solved it. Maybe not perfectly, Carissa knew rather little about the exact mechanism of the Starstone and Altarrin is incredibly unclear on what Irori did, but - well enough, it sounds like Aroden the immortal human and Aroden the god had recognizably similar goals. 

(He has a lot of notes, from Arbas, on Carissa's rather confused early reasoning about truth-preserving minds - on her speculation that dath ilan teaches the sort of process that Irori followed in order to become a god. He's not sure how useful that direction is, yet.) 

 

Fundamentally, the difficulty is that god-minds (especially Velgarth gods, swimming in Foresight with, he suspects, very limited sensory modalities to perceive reality on the level that mortals do) need to be very, very differently shaped from mortal minds. And the pieces of a mind are all interconnected, and most human minds don't have - stable invariant centers. By default, he suspects, if one part shifts then everything connected to it will shift along with it, not entirely predictably, and that includes the parts where values, goals, priorities are kept. 

There's the thing he does, but it's hardly mathematically rigorous. It works, or seems to, but it's been tested only in a narrow range of use cases – he can transplant himself to a different human mind with different former innate traits, but he's never tried his method on a mind even as inhuman as say, a gryphon's. And it relies heavily on the fact that his implicit procedural memory and mental habits largely come with him, even if he retains only a few dozen explicit memories of events. The content of his core memories isn't nearly enough to specify him or his values, just - to tie together the other fragments, to reassemble them into the right shape around the core driving force of a promise he made to the world seven hundred years ago. 

It does feel, subjectively, like that is a clearly definable core – and probably to Carissa as well, he just can't introspect on that one directly. The challenge is in actually defining it, in a way that isn't just robust to massive shifts around it, but is provably so. Because - once you start the process of turning a mind into a god, it's not easily reversible. If you get something subtly wrong, one, it might not be possible for a non-uplifted human mind to fully check it, since that require understanding something more intelligent than they are. And, two, even if you knew exactly what had gone wrong, you would now be in the position of trying to control an entity that was already much more powerful than you, and wouldn't necessarily want to be changed into something else... 

 

Carissa thought that dath ilan taught reasoning methods that...would apply, at least to an individual trying to shape their own mind in ways such that the core of them could if necessary survive major transformations around it. It's - in a way a similar problem as how to hold the important parts of oneself constant through the smaller mental transformations of various cognition-enhancing spells. While, of course, not locking in the wrong aspects of one's thinking – it seems important that enhanced-Altarrin was able to recognize that the Empire had been a mistake, and that wasn't a change in his highest-level goals, only an update to his strategy. It...also seems important that Carissa, with her thoughts unobserved and an Owl's Wisdom, was able to recognize that Asmodeus was opposed to her true values. Who knows, maybe both of them are still wrong about things just as big as that, things that want a god they're planning to build or become to be able to notice...

 

 

It's dizzyingly hard to think about. Altarrin isn't sure he's ever faced an intellectual challenge that was so far outside his current skills. He very badly wants Carissa's +6 headband– actually, he wants that and Owl's Wisdom, so he can hold enough in his head at once to reason about this non-sloppily and catch himself when he's being sloppy anyway. 

Well. Carissa said she needed a year or two to figure out how to make a headband with both. This is going to be a project of decades. (He suspects it would be centuries, if he were on his own.) He'll make what progress he can on at least sketching out what problems need to be solved, and wait. 

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A week later he contacts Carissa through the communication-spell artifact to ask about meeting her. 

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She's working out of a Rope Trick in the sky; it's what feels safest, and when she wants a break from crafting she can go fly around. Altarrin, of course, can presumably Gate right to her with the specialized items he's made her. 

 

She informs him he can drop by whenever is convenient.

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He can, indeed, Gate straight to her. (The only other person who's seen the specialized artifacts up close enough to do it is Arbas, and he almost certainly doesn't have the trick down for Gating to pocket dimensions.)

 

He's brought a large satchel of notes, but doesn't open it right away; he sets it down and hugs her. 

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She has, now that she only has to change Rope Tricks once a day, invested in a desk and chair and a pot with a flower in it. She also has Kelly, a hummingbird who is circling the air below the Rope Trick. She hugs him. "How are you?"

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"As well as I can expect! ...I have notes on the immortality setup. And on the problem of making a god that has the priorities we want – which I think is mostly the same problem as how to transform a human into a god without irreversibly altering their values and priorities. It is a very frustrating problem that I am not really smart enough to solve, yet, but - I think I could do it eventually even on my own. With a headband that included +6 to both Cunning and Wisdom, if you still think you could work that out eventually, it might even take years or decades rather than centuries."  

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"I can do that in a few years, I'm sure. And if I get to ninth circle I can directly make us smarter, that'll be helpful too. Once I have re-seduced the Emperor I'm going to ask if I can find the smartest peasant children in the Empire and elsewhere and recruit them as apprentices, so in a decade we'll also have some help, assuming I'm better at teaching ilanism when I don't have to worry the kids will realize they should fight Asmodeus."

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"I imagine you would be. And that it will help that you do not need to fear for your own safety if your superiors decide you are disloyal to Cheliax." 

 

Sigh. "We will need to be careful about their safety. We have the resources to do that, I think, and it is worth doing, but – in the past I tried having apprentices, not just - cultivating someone for a future leadership role in the Empire, but teaching them how I think and prioritize. And usually it was not good for their lifespan. Presumably it made them look frightening to the gods." 

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"Oh, good to know. - maybe I can mostly keep them in the far north, once I have demiplanes and can make it more habitable. And see how long Kelly lives, that's a decent proxy."

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"Kelly?" 

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"I have a familiar! Kelly, come here."

 

The hummingbird flits on in. She is barely an inch long, and moves too fast to see. Carissa smiles warmly at her. "To be clear, I am against Kelly dying, and have tried pretty hard to avoid it, but if she does die I'll have a lot more information about how hard the gods are working."

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Altarrin smiles delightedly at the tiny hummingbird. "How beautiful! ...Does anything particularly bad happen to a wizard whose familiar dies?" 

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"Nah, I wouldn't have risked it. I'm out the time and components to bind a new one, that's it. Kids in school would murder each others' familiars, sometimes, when they were mad at each other." Shrug.

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"Cheliax is certainly...memorable." Altarrin glances around the tiny Rope Trick space. "What have you been working on so far? What are your top priorities for the next three months?" 

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"Headband, deriving Mage's Private Sanctum, deriving Permanency. Then I guess Stone Shape so I can build a tower and have Bastran over and talk him around about you. Well. 'talk'. After that petrification, as it's on the path to soul-trapping. I was thinking about spells for possession and necromancy, too - a ring that traps my soul and can be given to someone else, who I can then take over - or if I can do dangerous things while body-swapped with people - the hope being, obviously, that the gods won't bother killing me if it doesn't work."

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Nod. "That seems sensible – I do also have some tentative plans drawn up to connect your soul-trapping artifact to the kind of spell I use, and at worst I could do it manually if and when I had your soul in hand, but I think our gods will not be able to interfere with your magic as effectively. , And, hmm - if you body-swap with me and my body is killed, would that interfere with my own immortality setup?" 

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"I don't expect so but I would have to look a lot more closely at the spell once it existed. I was planning to body-swap with non-mage staff members hired for that purpose, mostly, it's not an advantage to me if they're a mage."

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Nod. "I suppose you can communicate the risk and compensate them well for it, and that would - not be unfair - and definitely more fair than unexpectedly taking over someone's body without first negotiating a contract or paying them for it. - Also, that reminds me, I would at some point like you to start teaching me wizardry." 

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"I made you a spellbook. Let's do it right now."

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"I would like that!" 

Altarrin has the advantage of mage-sight, and of having spent months watching Carissa prepare Golarion spells with it, and having very astute intuitions for how magic behaves. He also brought one of the +2 Intelligence headbands, in case that turns out to make a significant difference with learning this (though it only helps a little with other types of research, he needs Wisdom just as badly for reasoning about the god work.) He's also very good at concentrating on a task. 

He has the disadvantage that his habits around handling magic are very much calibrated for Velgarth mage-work and using mage-gift directly, and he's not sure how to even go about manipulating magic without using his Gift. 

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Carissa isn't experienced with teaching magic to adults except Keltham, who was coming at this from a very different angle, but the mage-sight should help a lot and cantrips aren't actually that hard. It takes kids a long time to pick them up because kids are inexperienced at manipulating magic.

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Cantrips aren't that complicated! Altarrin spends a while not even really trying to prepare a spell, yet, just poking at how the magic behaves on the spellbook scaffold, getting a sense of how it moves and what he needs to do to get it to stabilize. 

 

When he actually focuses on trying to prepare Prestidigitation, about 45 minutes in, he gets it on the first try and his expression is nearly the happiest Carissa has ever seen. (The only moment that rivals it is when he was freed and saw her again in the north for the first time.) 

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"Nice! Now, if you want, you can catch it when you cast it so you don't lose it - mostly only cantrips are stable enough for that, though I've heard of really gifted wizards figuring out how to do it with a first-circle spell -"

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"Could I watch you do it once, to see how you handle it?" 

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Yep, she can cast and catch Prestidigitation repeatedly. It's not that hard; once you've done it a hundred times you won't ever forget.

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The tricky part for Altarrin is mostly in managing not to instinctively do it with his mage-gift. He doesn't quite time it right the first time, and has to prepare Prestidigitation again (which is, fortunately, not at all a strain for an Adept mage, he could prepare it dozens of times before he would even need to duck out of the Rope Trick and try to tap a node.)

He casts it again and, this time, catches it. Beams at Carissa. "- All right, now how do I - do things - with the spell -?" 

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Prestidigitation can be used for all kinds of minor changes to the surface structure of things! You can make them colorful or hot or cold or coalesce extremely fragile objects out of the air. You can change what color a flame burns as, or make things taste salty, and of course people mostly use it to do laundry. 

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That's such an odd assortment of things to be able to do with a single spell! Altarrin is happy to play around with it, but it might be easier if she has more theory behind what the magic is doing that can have all of those effects as part of a single kind of process and he doesn't have to go purely on trial and error. 

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It moves things around a tiny bit. That includes moving bits of atoms around, such that they can temporarily imitate other atoms, which makes more sense if the behavior of atoms is a preexisting framework you have for thinking about chemistry. 

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Velgarth - or, well, mostly Altarrin specifically - does have the concept of things being made of atoms, though not much more detail than that on their properties. Altarrin will see if it helps to keep the concept in mind while poking at the spell, but it's probably going to be mostly trial-and-error and following his intuitions that aren't necessarily designed for this kind of magic. 

 

It's still really really fun. He looks relaxed and happy and not miserable at all. 

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As he should, because magic is great! Carissa will show him fancy Prestidigitation tricks and then make flavored drinks for both of them (with water from a nearby river; she hasn't risked any human-inhabited places.)

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Altarrin does not trust random water from random rivers and will sterilize it for her, but then cheerfully share flavored drinks and try (without too much success, yet) to imitate Carissa's fancy tricks. He can already see how the sheer flexibility of Prestidigitation could end up being very useful for future mage-research. And he's happy for Carissa, that she gets to spend all of her time studying spells far more interesting than just this one, even if he can't - yet - join her. 

 

He told the Emperor he would be away for the rest of the afternoon and evening, and he intends to spend all of that time here, getting up to speed on Carissa's work and giving her what advice he has to offer and just, generally, being somewhere that doesn't constantly remind him of his past mistakes. 

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Carissa is in a great mood. She's spending all her time doing magic research or catching Kelly up on all of the things that have happened. Kelly thinks Carissa is very cool - familiars generally do - and wants to fight all Carissa's enemies, which is a terrible idea since Kelly is just a hummingbird - "I do cast Mage Armor on her, and I'm thinking about a ring of evasion so she's basically impossible to hit -"

"I've been thinking about what kinds of ridiculous unnecessary shit I want in my wizard tower. I definitely want hot springs, and I might want a moat of lava -"

"I have Overland Flight up whenever I'm awake, now - I'm slightly worried my legs are going to atrophy -"

"Diamonds are so cheap on your planet -"

"I made Sleeves of Many Garments to go with the Greater Hat of Disguise - they're suuuuper easy, they're at the price point for 'rich women acquiring a family heirloom' rather than 'adventurers' magic items' - and I'm trying to use them to imitate all the dath ilan fabrics I ever saw - they were such astonishing fabrics, you can't imagine -"

"We should get a Telepathic Bond. I haven't invented the spell yet, of course, but once I do."

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It's really good to see Carissa happy. 

"We should! That sounds even better than Mindspeech in some ways. And how expensive are diamonds in Golarion? I suppose needing them for spells would drive up demand, but you must also mine more of them, there are not actually very many useful applications for them here - some non-magical engineering work but it is generally easier just to use magic..." 

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"Most mines are tapped out. You can go to the Elemental Plane of Earth and mine there but that's a lot of powerful peoples' time and spell slots supplying and defending a mine there. I do also suspect some god-imposed scarcity, Wishes can't be Their favorite thing ever."

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"And there is no way to artificially create usable diamonds with your magic? ...I think it might be possible with ours, if you sufficiently overpowered one of the constructions spells for compressing materials, though it would be a huge power input - not something any single mage could do, and artifacts that channel power are very difficult. Maybe someday. We could certainly figure it out if the alternative were running out of diamonds entirely." 

 

...Altarrin would, under normal conditions, be tempted to spend the night, but Carissa doesn't have her fancy wizard's tower yet and there isn't exactly a huge quantity of room for both of them to sleep in a Rope Trick. He'll leave some of the immortality notes and some of the god notes for Carissa to look over when she feels like it, and Gate back before it's time for either of them to sleep. 

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Carissa (and Kelly) work. On a new headband, and on plans for her wizard tower, and on Mage's Private Sanctum, which she gets working eventually after a few explosions that would definitely have killed her without her very good shields.

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Altarrin visits once a week. He's clearly never happy to have to go back, but he at least doesn't show the previous warning signs of maybe on some level trying to work himself to death. He brings Carissa books, and notes on immortality research - progressing steadily - and early-stage wild speculation on how to mathematically define priorities and values in a way that could persist in a massively transformed god-mind.

He updates her on court politics, including Carissa-relevant parts like the fact that Mage-Inquisitor Kastil was released - though not returned to exactly his former post - and that there are almost certainly still assassination plots out against her, because he was paranoid enough to make it impossible for anyone except him to shut them down. But the Inquisition still doesn't know about Carissa's new magical abilities, now growing by the week, or where she is.

There are plenty of rumors about Caris/Carissa - the investigation was public enough, and leaked enough, for the rumor mill to connection them - including lots of speculation that the public story of Caris/sa's ongoing boring political imprisonment in an undisclosed location is false, and he/she has (been given a new name and granted a barony in the far west)(gone to seduce a shaman of the Shin'a'in)(gone undercover as a spy to seduce the Emperor's enemies and betray them)(become an absurdly wealthy merchant in Seejay). None are especially close to on-base. If the rumor mill ever heard a whisper that Carissa was from another world, it didn't get far. 

 

 

Altarrin - is continuing to mostly avoid conversations about duration-of-commitment-to-the-Empire with Bastran. Not because he thinks Bastran can actually talk him into making a promise he doesn't endorse, but because every iteration of it makes Bastran sad again, and then Bastran looks at him with that sad expression, and it feels very pointless.  But he's ready to relay it to Bastran whenever Carissa's tower is magically secured and finished construction and is ready for an Imperial guest. 

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Wizard towers are supposed to be a delight and Carissa is going to bring this important tradition to a new world along with wizardry itself. It does have a moat of lava, powered by fire elementals once she manages to adapt the spell to summon the local kind. They're paid, of course, not bound. Carissa is planning to not be a dick for no reason to anyone. If one can fly over the moat of lava, or if she sees fit to raise a bridge of stone across it with a well-practiced Stone Shape, one reaches the entrance to the tower, on which is ominously written in eight languages (she needed Altarrin's help there) 'one who enters unwelcome offers their life as forfeit' and 'intelligence permits you to answer this riddle. wisdom advises you to walk away' and then the obligatory riddle, which is a math problem. 

 

Inside there is a lovely furnished study and a lovely furnished bedroom and a lovely furnished guest bedroom for the Emperor and a lovely furnished sex dungeon which it's probably dangerous to mentally have tagged as 'for the Emperor'. And an apiary, and a swimming pool, and a regular dungeon that isn't sexy. 

 

She is so happy.

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And when she's ready and Altarrin has relayed this, Bastran will free up an evening in his schedule to visit his - allied terrifyingly powerful wizard, or whatever she is. 

 

He tells his personal guard that he's meeting privately with Altarrin. He does, in fact, take Altarrin with him; for one thing, he doesn't actually know where Carissa lives and could use a Gate-ride over. 

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Altarrin lets her know via communication-spell when the time is arranged, and warns her again when they're headed over. They Gate to outside the moat. 

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Proooooooobably it's polite to...wait to be let in? Bastran could easily short-range Gate over the moat but that seems sort of rude. 

 

(It's beautiful. He's kind of dazzled.) 

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Caris (he's Caris for the evening, obviously) will graciously extend the bridge.

 

The bridge is also beautiful, because he's showing off how much practice he's gotten with Stone Shape.

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It's very impressive! 

Also Caris is very hot  unhelpful, but he is trying to avoid shoving all of his feelings into a box, right now. He might need them. 

 

...Bastran isn't sure what to read into the fact that Caris is appearing as a boy, actually. Does he want to make Bastran happy? Does he want Bastran to be distractedDoes he want to make Altarrin jealous it's almost certainly not that. 

He crosses the bridge. 

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Altarrin walks behind him. It's not like he's in a desperate hurry to be the first one to hug Carissa. 

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Caris is sitting in his sitting room. It's not a throne room. That would be geopolitically inappropriate. It's just a sitting room, with a very comfortable armchair and an elaborate backsplash of the rising sun behind the armchair and some other armchairs that are perfectly nice but slightly less nice than the one he's sitting in. 

He does not rise. "Bastran," he says warmly, and taps his finger on his armrest; the bridge falls into the lava behind them, and the lights brighten, and an Unseen Servant brings a tray of food to the sitting room's low table.

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All of which is also incredibly hot but that continues to be an unhelpful reaction. 

Bastran will nod to Caris, without quite making it a bow, and then gracefully make his way to one of the other slightly-less-nice armchairs, and sit. 

"It's - good to see you again."

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Altarrin, without comment, settles himself into whichever other armchair is closest. 

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"It's good to see you as well. I'm satisfied with our arrangements. It's not a proper tower yet, of course, but give me time."

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"I guess from your world's perspective, maybe it's not a proper wizard's tower just yet, but from our world's perspective -" 

 

There are a lot of things he has lined up to say, that he's carefully prepared and lined up in order of highest priority. 

"- I missed you." 

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"I missed you too. I've been working very hard at getting ready to host you, not because I need anything from you right now, but because - I wanted you to come here and see it."

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(Does Altarrin seem to be objecting to anything about this - apparently not -) 

 

"Well, here I am. I'd like to see - everything you're willing to show me." 

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Then he'll give a tour! Underground are the sex dungeons and real dungeons, above ground are all the living spaces. He worked very hard on them. 

 

(The main sense in which it's not a real wizard's tower, which he doesn't precisely say aloud, is that Bastran and Altarrin would in fact win, if the three of them had a disagreement here and now. It's not a real wizard tower unless your enemies need to lure you out of it to stand a chance against you. Bastran, however, will have more fun if he never has to think about this until it is a proper wizard tower.)

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Altarrin is genuinely impressed! He does not especially try to hide this, because why would he. Carissa (Caris) should clearly know that he's impressed. 

 

(He is exactly as impressed with the sex dungeon as he is with all the rest, and does not make a different face about it.) 

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....Bastran is finding the sex dungeon very distracting.

(He is also not especially trying to hide this, because - well, it's Caris, and once he's agreed to be here at all, what does it accomplish to hide anything.) 

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"Do you want to know something shocking," she says when she's completed the tour and returned to her not-throne room. "I think that when I am tremendously happy and having the time of my life and answering to no one, I am a more productive magical researcher."

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Altarrin is so incredibly un-shocked about this. 

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"Oh? Tell me more." 

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(Altarrin suspects he should leave them to it, sometime soonish, but right now he's enjoying observing.) 

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"Well, a fairly central claim of Asmodeanism, or at least the version of it I had constructed in my head, is that being miserable makes people stronger. And there are senses in which that is true! I am twenty-six and I'm sixth circle!

But - somehow, astoundingly given how accurate every other claim of Asmodeanism turned out to be, being happy makes people stronger in a different way than that.

Where it's fun to think because it's going to be rewarding, it's going to open doors instead of remind you of mistakes, and so you just end up doing it all the time, all these little paths you turn out to go wander down as long as you don't get metaphorically lit on internal fire for walking them."

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...Altarrin is going to quietly duck out of the room, at this point. He's very curious how this conversation is going to go, but - it seems like it might be important, for Bastran and Caris to have it in private. 

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Bastran is having some kind of emotional reaction to what Caris just said. He's unclear on what it is. It feels - not entirely safe - to poke at more closely. 

 

"...Did magic research used to remind you of your mistakes?" he says, and immediately feels incredibly stupid because this is not at all a good way to flirt and - is that what he's trying to do here - nevermind he already said it he's just going to sit here feeling like an idiot and wait for Caris' answer. 

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"When nearly everything new is bad new thoughts can be predicted in advance to be bad thoughts. When nearly everything surprising is bad, surprising thoughts can be predicted in advance to be bad thoughts. So you - train the habit of not really thinking -"

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"...Um. That - does sound like it would be really bad. For, uh, thinking, and also just - bad, as a way to live? ....I wouldn't've said it was one or the other, that either someone could be tremendously happy or - that -" 

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"I guess there's also being - bored but not injured? I'm not sure I'd recognize it. Almost everyone I've ever met is the - injured thing."

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"...Hmm. I - that makes sense, I guess, with - what I know about Cheliax."

He's making a face about it.

"- I still feel like there are - more divisions than that. I don't know, I just - I think someone can be sort of all right, mostly? Not bored, not injured, but not - tremendously happy, either." 

 

 

(He's not making a face about this, not even a little bit, because it's something that he feels personally emotionally invested in, and that's exactly the time when you can't afford to reveal anything.) 

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"I guess. But - most of the gain from being happy - it's not just the absence of the penalty from being injured."

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"...What is it? Is it mostly just the - space to be curious and ask questions like a child would, or - something else -?"

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"It's - expecting that if you think about a problem for a while you will satisfyingly solve it and the solution will be beautiful and applicable to some other problems you had as well. Just sitting down to think, expecting that, and being right so often you start to trust it like you trust your balance."

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He's never felt that way in his entire life and didn't know it was possible probably that is not a thought he actually believes. ...Probably. Maybe. 

 

 

 

He really needs to say something or else this is going to go from bearably to unbearably awkward very fast. 

"I think most of the problems I solve are - satisfying, but not beautiful?"

Wow that was an inane stupid thing to say. Though if Caris was going to judge him for his tendency to say inane stupid things then probably Caris wouldn't have invited him to his wizard tower. (Right? probably?)

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" - come here," he says, his voice a little strange.

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...He'll do that. 

(This may or may not be a terrible idea on multiple dimensions but - he's committed, he's here, and that makes it easier.) 

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Caris puts his hand around the Emperor's throat. 

"You're such a puzzle," he says. "You could be happy, in that if there is anything that'd make you happy you could have it. It'd serve the Empire, for you to be happy." He does not expect that Bastran likes hearing that; it's very clear, in his voice, that that's part of why he said it. "You suspect I'm right, that happy people are stronger, better, unafraid, unburdened, that they see farther and build higher. It is your right to be happy and you would be doing the right thing, to be happy. An Asmodean would say that Good chains you to misery, but Good, I suspect, objects that they propose no such thing. 

The throne itself chains you to misery, that's my solution to the puzzle. You are afraid that the answer to the question of how you'd be happy is that you'd be free of it."

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Caris' prediction was correct: Bastran doesn't like hearing this! 

 

...It's weirdly easier to listen to it anyway, with Caris' hand around his throat. 

Right. He should...say...words...probably...? 

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He can definitely do that. Say words, that is. 

"I don't think -" 

(that I'm miserable but with Caris' hand around his throat he's somehow suddenly more aware that he has arguably been miserable for a long time. It's not a job anyone sane would agree to, being the Emperor– he still needs to do the saying words thing but he can't remember where that sentence was going) 

"- that the Empire is actually making the world better?" he hears himself say, with an audible question mark, and then is immediately mortified but the words are said and he can't take them back now. 

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That is legitimately not what he was expecting to hear! Probably because he still can't actually really predict Good people all that well!

 

Luckily if he takes a moment to figure out how to respond to it Bastran will definitely interpret the pause as letting Bastran wallow in having said it. 

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The cruel thing to say in response is 'careful, now, people die of confessing that'. Because it's probably true, but - not by Bastram's choice, except insofar as he hasn't more highly prioritized fixing it. He has actually on every occasion she knows him to have exercised any discretion chose to be lenient. Caris was, in fact, his, and in plenty of senses a traitor, and it's not just the sex, and not just weakness, that motivated Bastran to forgive it.

The Good thing to say in response - he doesn't know! He isn't Good! Good continues to make no fucking sense -

 

 

- no. At some point that's just an excuse not to think, and instead you can always just think. 

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"- I'm so sorry," he says, quietly.

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...That feels like an even more unfair thing for Caris to say while he still has his hand around Bastran's throat. Because now Bastran wants to cry, which is deeply unattractive. Probably. He is at this point incredibly confused about what Caris finds attractive given that apparently one of the things Caris finds attractive is him.

(- he did on some level notice the brief pause, before Caris' response, he's pretty sure there was some careful calculation going on there and somehow this is even more hot - this is such a bizarre thing to find attractive but it's definitely how he feels anyway -)

 

"It should be. That was - what it's for. To make the world better. ...I don't think it's just me failing, here, I think the Empire was already - not what Altarrin wanted - before that."

But it definitely does feel like he's failing. ...That is also probably not a sexy topic at all but he can't think very far ahead right now. 

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"It was worth it to you, to suffer all of this, if it was for something lastingly good. But it's - so unfair, to have paid so much to swim upriver and keep pace with the shore."

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Caris is right and this conversation is terrible and - why didn't he ever notice it sooner - it's actually completely unsurprising that he never noticed it sooner, he's not running into his own compulsion to serve the Empire right now but it's mostly because he's in a very strange mental state that the compulsion is clearly not designed to handle - 

- he really just wants to stop thinking 

 

 

"Mm. ...Want you to hurt me," so that he's too distracted to think, which sounds very convenient, and separately very hot. "- Um. If you - don't mind."

And now he can simultaneously feel mortified because most of his staff would tell him that he's being an idiot, and ALSO because his followup was embarrassingly awkward. 

(- and he is maybe also pretty scared, after the fact, thinking through what kind of hurt Caris has been through, and - he's not going to just admit right here that he can't handle what Caris can, that would be...embarrassing...also being scared is hot, apparently, because his brain is stupid and has stupid ideas -)

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"That's what I have been doing" is a great line but Caris is not sure Bastran is in a position to appreciate it. 

 

Casting Dispel Magic at this point is incredibly tempting but - there is such a thing as pushing too far, and that might legitimately be it, and Caris needs to remember that however much they're pretending otherwise if they fight now Bastran will win. Bastran can afford to forget that; Caris cannot. And even if he were assured of his safety - it could make Bastran regret having made himself vulnerable, feel foolish for having done so, tell himself that his guards were right to tell him not to do this. 

Caris wants everyone who told the Emperor not to do this to be wrong. 

 

- this leaves him with only the usual problem where the kinds of hurting people that are reflexive for him are too much hurting people for most people. He can dig his nails into Bastran's throat, though, and pull his hair, and then Dimension Door them on down to the sex dungeon. 

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Bastran will make very satisfying faces and noises about this! 

 

 

 

- he's mostly too distracted to have thoughts - he feels like there's a thought he was halfway through and it was important - 

 

...probably Caris will remember it, if it's important. Bastran trusts Caris utterly, right now, it seems like some like of category error not to utterly trust the person currently pulling his hair and digging his nails into his throat... 

 

he's pretty sure it really was important though

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Caris is, tragically, way too inexperienced to be trustworthy with that! Caris was about as bold as he feels he had affordance to be, and then was told to move on from that to the pain, and he's obliging, while obviously not making Bastran feel like Caris is in any sense being obliging!

 

 

Hopefully Bastran will bring it up again himself, later, after they've moved from the sex dungeon to one of the bedrooms and worn each other out.

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He's not really in the mood to bring it up! He's happy, right now, and relaxed and it feels like the world is half-melted in a good way and he doesn't want to have any thoughts, yet, let alone talk about them. 

 

(It's still there, in the back of his mind, the lingering sense that he's missing something, that he hasn't fully dealt with the incredibly overwhelming information he's learned in the last few weeks - that he's doing everything wrong because he's not good enough and never will be ever– all right that piece is a thought he recognizes and can set aside as, at the very least, not one that's useful regardless of how correct or incorrect it may be...)

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It nags him enough that he can't actually fall asleep on Caris, however much he would enjoy doing so.

 

"...Think we might be making some kind of strategic mistake," he says, drowsily, after a few minutes. 

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We?

 

"The Empire?"

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"...Yes, that, sorry."

He was unclear and he's embarrassed about it! ...not very embarrassed, he's apparently too relaxed for it to last very long.

"I think– so Altarrin was there when the Empire was founded, right," this is safe to say because Caris probably knows even more of Altarrin's secrets than Bastran does, "and - I think he wanted to build - something different. Something better than this. I - think he's sad because it hasn't worked." 

These are all very stupid things to say but he snuggles up to Caris anyway, and says the even stupider thing. "Don't want him to have to be sad." 

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"Yeah. He wanted - a place where everyone could grow up to be anything, and where they were rich, and happy, and free." Dangerous territory, this, but it's very important that Bastran never hear Caris sound afraid.

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"...Mmmhmm. I think that's right - you know him better - but seems like how it should be. Right. If we're - being the place where civilization is - then that's what it's for. People being rich and happy and..." 

He apparently can't quite finish repeating the last word of whatever Caris just said. He's slightly upset about this but it's hard to be very upset when Caris is right there. 

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Caris feels cold. "And free. Is how Good would usually finish that sentence. Rich and happy and free."

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He's too tired for this conversation. He just wants to flop on Caris and not have to deal with any complicated messy problems that affect millions of people - he can't pretend they're not there but he can at least try to pretend that it's allowed for him to ignore them until tomorrow. Maybe. He's - not actually entirely clear what his mind means there, but he's also too tired for that can it not wait until later. Some better time.

"...Seems important too," he can say if he's too tired to think about the words he's saying. "Seems like Altarrin would've wanted - more. Of that."  

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He doesn't want to die he doesn't want to die he doesn't want to die he doesn't want to prove the Emperor's advisors right he doesn't want to betray an implicit trust -

- he wants to make the compulsion go away and find out who Bastran is without it -

- he wants there to be one person in the fucking Empire who can think the thought 'people should be free' -

 

Put some numbers to things. How likely is Bastran to kill him. Extremely unlikely, actually, Caris could stand to have that specific panic button press itself a bit less readily. How likely is Bastran to feel betrayed, to feel there was some compact here that Caris violated -

- also...not ....that ....likely? He'll blame himself, is what he'll do, and Caris if Caris is still alive can talk him out of that.

 

 

- damn it, Caris had been hoping for the answers to those questions to be different so he would have an easy decision to make -

 

He puts his hand on Bastran's back, massages him deeply. "I'm going to cast a spell," he says soothingly, so the movement of mage-energy doesn't startle the Emperor, and then -

 

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Dispel Magic. 

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Bastran is VERY startled, actually! He goes rigid under Caris' hands, holding himself perfectly still, not even breathing. 

 

He hasn't been without compulsions since he was seven years old. (And even before that he was often under compulsions of one kind or another, because his father was of the school of parental discipline that considered them a reasonable and convenient method to ensure that his children attended their lessons and weren't embarrassingly rowdy at court functions.) He barely remembers what it was like, to not have nearly all of his thoughts and the vast majority of his motivation in some way built around an immutable duty to serve his Empire. 

It turns out that the thing it's like is awful. Like there's nothing there to stand on; like he shaped his whole life around the answer to a question and that question just stopped meaning anything at all. 

 

He's not angry. He's not even evaluating whether he feels betrayed, that's - not the part that matters - and he trusts Caris, he's not scared.

It's just - it feels like there should be a coherent thing left that is Bastran without compelled loyalties - it feels like even without compulsions he should still be capable of caring - but he's not sure there is, he's not sure there's anything left when you take away his life's work and everything he built it on. Just an aching emptiness, a void that he's spent his life papering over with lies that he tried to pretend were real. 

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Stay in control stayincontrolstayincontrol it would be humiliating to cry in front of Caris, he wants Caris to like and admire him and be attracted to him and crying is so unattractive. But all his mental strategies for staying in control of his emotions are abruptly not working anymore, because he is apparently an idiot who runs most of his emotional regulation through duty to the Empire and now there's nothing there, just a negative space that should have a person in it and doesn't... 

 

He curls up and starts sobbing uncontrollably. 

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- well that counts as...better than Altarrin's reaction, she's pretty sure, and much better than the plausible reaction of instantly summoning his guards with a contingency spell specifically designed for 'Caris tries something'.

What would Abrogail do - no, no, wrong question. Very rarely is that the right question. 

What would Keltham do - also probably the wrong question, though more broadly applicable.

 

 

He pulls the Emperor into his arms and gives himself Bull's Strength to hold him more tightly and says nothing at all, for a while.

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Bastran clings and sobs and is for once too distracted to even be embarrassed about it. Being lost in confusing misery is not exactly an improvement on embarrassment but it's - simpler. 

He wants - something - he has absolutely no idea what or how to communicate it -

- he wants everything to stop, he wants to not feel like this, he wants to  be small and safe and no one important, he wants to go back and live his life over and run away from home before his father sent him to foster at court, before the Empire took him and turned him into a mask over hollow nothing, he wants to be a wandering minstrel in a place far away - he kind of wants to be dead, dead people don't have to run Empires, dead people can't fail at the only important thing they've ever done, and in this moment he's too overwhelmed to feel guilty about that thought - he wants it to not be his fault and he's not even sure what 'it' is - he wants Caris to say something that will make the world fit together again...

 

 

It's going to take him a while of being held to even slightly calm down. 

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Caris is mindreading him. If nothing else got a bad reaction then that's probably not going to and he needs to - know what he's done - if he's going to fix it -

 

 

"When Keltham arrived," he says, eventually, "I could have walked away. It was the - first time in my life it was true, very close to the only time in my life it'd be true, but I was too - in the habit - of obedience, of loyalty, of - being the right shape -

In a lot of ways the most important virtue in the world was the ability to see that things could be different and reach for it when the door opened, right in front of me.

I didn't.

 

 

You did."

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...He doesn't really feel like he did?? He nearly got Caris killed, he nearly got Altarrin killed and now Altarrin is miserable too, and Bastran hates making people he likes miserable but he can't see a way out of it. That doesn't result in thousands of people dying, at least, he could just not go back, and wow that's a pit of internal screaming, even though thinking about going back is also a differently-flavored pit of screaming. 

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"I nearly got Altarrin killed, you had nothing to do with it. You could have decided to have me killed and you didn't, you could have decided to keep me enslaved and you didn't, you chose this instead. Altarrin is sad because he too is compulsioned to something he no longer thinks is helping people, and that's a stupid horrible system but you're not the one who created it, are you."

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Huh. Bastran - hadn't really been thinking of that as a choice? ...He had on reflection been thinking of it as Caris just being powerful and scary enough to corner him into it. Which...he's not sure is true, and either way it's a lot more true because he signed off on Altarrin and Arbas' plan to make Caris more powerful. He...also hadn't really been thinking of that as his choice, more something that Altarrin backed him into...

...he's not sure why it apparently feels so important to his emotions that only the bad things that happened here are his doing. 

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"You like it when I'm powerful and scary, and I like being powerful and scary, and I'm perfectly happy to keep things that way. But let's not actually get confused, please. You have at every moment of our acquaintance including right now had the right and the power to reshape me into something that does not threaten you and lock me away in a box somewhere to make you fancy hats. Altarrin can't stop you. No one else would even want to. Your life would probably be easier if you did. And you have chosen not to do that, because you're - 

- walking away from the Church of Asmodeus, once you found something that changes all the reasons you had for being there."

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...He thinks it's a different sort of thing, to let Caris walk away?

Caris didn't - choose this - it's not his Empire, he didn't swear an oath of loyalty to it when he was fourteen - not that Bastran really could have not sworn that oath, he had at that point already been under loyalty compulsions half his life, but he did swear it and the Empire is his entire life and he continues to be unsure that there's anything left, if you take away all of the parts of him that are wrapped around serving the Empire. Caris clearly at least has other stuff going on

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"I'm really not sure how choosing things works but I don't think the thing that happened to you counts. 

 

'm also not trying to convince you to walk away from the Empire. Probably in your place I'd end up staying. Just - for my reasons, not for reasons someone else twisted me into."

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...right now it feels like he doesn't know what it would mean, to have his own reasons that aren't fundamentally a result of his life so far, which feels impossible to separate from the Empire. Where would reasons that are more his own reasons than those even come from. 

 

(His thoughts are not incredibly coherent at the moment, and are mostly full of a free-floating sourceless sense of Everything Is Terrible And It's His Fault. He feels trapped - somehow much more acutely than he did with the compulsion in place, which is stupid, surely - and his emotions are still repeatedly bringing up that he would stop being trapped if he were dead, which is even stupider and he almost wants his compulsion back so it can at least make that line of thought not-allowed. Though not entirely, because it also feels like maybe the structure he had built around it is already shattered and trying to mind-control himself into putting it back won't even work and - he needs to go back, even if it's not...to stay...he can't just vanish without a word and let the Empire fall into pointless civil war but also going back feels impossible.) 

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"You can give it, like, twelve hours, I'm sure. You get more hours in the day than everyone else does anyway. You are absolutely not allowed to die, and I'll compulsion you to that effect if I need to.

 

I think I do see - traces of other reasons, other motivations - in you. You keep thinking about how many people will die if you don't go back."

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...That's true. Even once he's untangled it from the sense that serving the Empire is inevitable and impossible to escape and the only thing about him that's ever mattered, he...still doesn't want people to die. 

 

It doesn't feel good. It doesn't feel at all like what Caris was trying to gesture at, before, at the way people can think and work when they're whole and happy and...free, he can think that too. This doesn't feel like freedom, it feels like being bound to a reality he hates, the power he never wanted but that he can't just refuse to use if it means people will die. 

But it does feel...real...and his. 

 

 

(It's helping a surprising amount, that Caris says he isn't allowed to die. Not wanting to disappoint Caris is doing at least as much work as a compulsion would, which is presumably exactly what Caris intended by saying it.) 

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"If there were a spell that could make you happy, but it had to be powered by human sacrifice, a person a day, and it didn't make you better at your job, it didn't change your performance as Emperor at all, it just meant you were happy, would you want it?"

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That shakes actual words out of him. "What?? No!!!! Who would do that???" 

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" - lots of people! Plausibly most people, if it was set up such that they didn't really have to think about it!! But not you! Because you hate it when people die?"

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Because he doesn't deserve to be happy that thought is probably also stupid, but...certainly he doesn't deserve to be happy more than other people deserve to be alive? That's not how it works. They're his people to protect. 

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"They're your people? Would it be better if the spell worked on faraway people?"

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No! That's even worse! He doesn't - have the right - to harm faraway people for his own selfish enjoyment! Especially not to set it up conveniently so he doesn't need to think about it! 

(He does, arguably, have the right to order executions in the Empire, he doesn't want it and it's certainly never made him happy but it is under his purview, and he has signed execution orders...great now he's found another thing to be miserable about...) 

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"You suffer in very interesting ways," says Caris absently. "You execute people, but because you think it's Good, prevents more deaths, advances goals worth that cost, not because you'd rather they be dead? If they all went to Axis, you'd be happier?"

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Obviously that would be better!!!!! ...well, maybe not for Axis, he doubts they especially want the Empire's rapists and murderers, and he doesn't want to send anyone to one of the terrible afterlives even if they were, in life, a terrible person who hurt people around them. And criminal executions are really only a small fraction of the deaths on his hands, compared to the inevitable deaths on both sides when he sends the Imperial army to shut down a rebellion or conquer a new province. He...it would hurt less, if he knew that everyone who was dead on his orders was...okay, somewhere else. 

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"'m working on it. I don't...actually know if I'll finish in your lifetime. But I'll get there."

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Of course. Because Caris is impressive and incredible and so good, however hard he tries to deny being Good-with-a-capital-letter in the Golarion sense, and Bastran is still way too upset to be in the mood where he would parse this as hot, but - he appreciates Caris so much and there's - some kind of emotion there that he doesn't actually recognize, it's bright and clean and the opposite of feeling tired (somehow despite the fact that he is, in fact, exhausted.) He feels like...maybe he can be okay, just for a little while, here and now with Caris' arms around him. He can't avoid facing all of the misery forever but - maybe, just for a little while, Caris can hold the rest of the world at bay. 

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- well that went unexpectedly well. He's genuinely grateful to Bastran for how unexpectedly well that went but has no idea how to express that, inside or outside the game they're playing. He'll just - smile fondly at him, and radiate satisfaction, and then let Bastran...sleep?

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Bastran slowly relaxes in his arms, and - starts crying again for no reason whatsoever, he has no idea why this is happening to him (and his thoughts won't be very informative to Caris on this matter, either, he's actually a lot less miserable and feels small and safe and cared-for). 

He does eventually fall asleep. 

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(Altarrin has been letting them be. He's definitely not about to spy on the Emperor with his boyfriend. He's also very curious what they've even been doing for so long, but he will keep himself occupied poking at the immortality research and wait.) 

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Caris spends a while shaking uncontrollably, once Bastran is asleep and definitely not going to get mad at him and kill him, and then goes to sleep as well. 

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In which case Bastran will wake up before Caris does. 

He's warm and cozy and not especially in a hurry to get up and do things, and so it actually takes him a few moments to notice that something is missing in his head. 

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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH????!!!!!

 

This was a mistake he shouldn't have come he shouldn't have trusted Caris - what does he do aaaaaaaaaah -

 

 

 

He does in fact have a direct communication-spell protocol to summon guards to his current location, and he nearly does exactly that before remembering that his current location is Caris' wizard tower, because he's the stupidest person in the entire world– 

...Altarrin is here. Probably. Unless Altarrin is in on this too he can't be that paranoid right now, he just cannot do it, he needs Altarrin to be someone he can trust. 

<ALTARRIN HELP> he sends, very very loudly and emphatically, at the same time as he's frantically rolling away from Caris and raising shields over himself. 

 

 

...at which point his brain actually wakes up enough to remember the surrounding context and that he wasn't panicked about it before, but by that point there's already a Gate-threshold shimmering into place on the locked doorway. 

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Altarrin throws himself through, raising shields over both of them - what - neither of them appears to be injured or under attack?

(He's half-expecting some kind of countermeasure against unexpected Gates but he's very well shielded and probably Caris won't have used lethal countermeasure spells.) 

Caris is...asleep...though probably about to be woken by all the commotion, and Bastran is clearly panicking and he has no idea why. His top guess would be 'a nightmare' - he doesn't know if Bastran has nightmares after everything that's happened recently, he does but not ones where he wakes up disoriented and confused if his surroundings are safe. He kind of wishes he had Healing-sight, he doesn't think the Emperor is having an unexpected medical emergency but he's not as sure as he would prefer. 

(He is noting the fact that Bastran and Caris are both naked but this is not really one of the most salient elements of the situation.) 

 

He dives in, pulls Bastran into a sitting position and holds him steady and firmly grips his hand. "Just breathe - everything is fine, we are safe here - talk to me, what is wrong -?" 

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The thing that's wrong is that he's going to die of embarrassment. 

...The thing he actually does is burst into tears again. 

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This is incredibly concerning! "Caris," Altarrin snaps, and starts checking Bastran over with mage-sight. 

 

 

- oh. That. 

He's not sure what Caris was thinking - did he dispel Bastran's compulsion while Bastran was asleep, that just seems - rude and likely to go badly - but he's not otherwise concerned, and right now the main priority is getting the Emperor to calm down. He suspects Caris can help with that. 

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Caris woke to an Alarm spell when Altarrin Gated in, but has been sitting here very still in case moving provokes someone. 

- this was a plausible outcome last night. He was not expecting it this morning.

 

He pulls himself together and gets out of bed. "Bastran," he says quietly. "Do you trust me?"

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Instead of answering he's going to flop on Caris' shoulder and cry. 

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Altarrin is still pretty concerned but mostly incredibly confused! 

He sits down carefully on the edge of the bed. This...seems like a delicate conversation to have out loud while the Emperor is having some kind of breakdown. (It's bizarre and worrying; he's seen Bastran depressed, plenty of times, but never - losing control like this.)

Fortunately Caris has the communication-spell artifact, and while this isn't a central use case for it, there's no reason he can't use it for a private conversation in the same room; he would use Mindspeech if he had it. 

<Can you explain the context of - deciding to use a Dispel Magic on him?> he asks Caris, very levelly. 

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<I'm actually not sure if I can because I don't know how yours is set up, if you're going to be forced to do something if you don't like what you hear.> He pets Bastran's hair. <What - happened this morning ->

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<I was hoping you could tell me what happened this morning! He called for help with the communication-spell - I assumed you were under attack - and I Gated in and found him...like this. I thought you might have dispelled it while he was asleep and he panicked once he noticed, but - I cannot think why you would do that, and especially not why you would do it and then go to sleep rather than wait to see his reaction!> 

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<No! We talked last night without it in place. He must've - woken up disoriented and forgotten.> 

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<Did he - take it well, last night? ...He seems more just upset than scared, right now, I am confused what is wrong.> 

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<I think he had mixed feelings but was - moving in a good direction. I'd have fetched you to put it back if he'd wanted that, obviously.>

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<...I would have thought it would be good for him, but I suppose it is not incompatible for it to be good for him and also - very unpleasant, in the short run.> Sigh. <Do you have any idea what he needs, right now? I am - we have not really had the kind of relationship previously where I would - try to comfort him.> 

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<I think you owe him a damn good apology for the fact he's spent his entire life enslaved to a institution that eats him alive and can't even make the world better. - possibly not right this minute, though.>

 

 

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(She's grumpy mostly because she's not slept enough to prepare spells.)

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" - Bastran. Do I guess right that you woke up, noticed the compulsions were gone, didn't remember how or why, and summoned help? Did you message anyone else?"

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This is terrible he's so embarrassed. He needs to pull himself together anyway, it's - not fair for Caris to be scared because he was an idiot. 

"...No one else," he mumbles into Caris' chest. "I - remembered almost right away. Just - panicked. I guess." 

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(At a different time Altarrin might be annoyed to be snapped at - not angry, he's very rarely angry and certainly not when people do the right thing even when it's terrifying, just - even now he's not sure what else he should have done, with the information he had at the time the succession was being decided and he supported Bastran. It's...fair, though, and right now he's mostly just feeling proud of Caris for being willing to say it. And tired. He hasn't slept yet tonight but he doesn't think the tiredness is mostly about that.) 

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"To be clear, it'd be fine if you had summoned people? I gave it around..ten percent, when I did it. I trust you, so I trusted that even if you had me arrested, once you'd had time to think you would decide not to kill me." He in fact sounds quite calm about this. "You generally decide that."

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Okay, yes, it would have been fine. Just even more embarrassing. It's bad enough that he keeps crying uncontrollably in front of Caris, let alone Altarrin; if his guards saw him like this he would never live it down. 

He should be perfectly rested thanks to the Ring of Sustenance but he already feels exhausted again. 

"M'worried I - can't function without it," he manages. "Don't want it put back but - can't go back if I'm like this." 

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"It's been ...less than three hours. We can worry about that after lunch, if it's still a problem."

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"Mmkay." 

He needs to try to pull himself together, but it feels like doing that requires a stable surface to pull on, and there's nothing there. His motivation system is still just...mostly not working...he can notice that there are things he cares about, in theory, but this is not actually resulting in any kind of desire to do things, other than flop on Caris and be sad. 

He should probably try to talk about it. Caris has...been through something not entirely dissimilar...how did he find the strength to keep going? Maybe he just doesn't have that problem because he is, unlike Bastran, a functional human being. 

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Altarrin hovers for another couple of minutes, feeling worried and also completely useless. 

 

"Do you want some time alone?" he asks eventually. 

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"Probably. ...probably one of the two of you should in fact be functional and checking on the Empire."

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"Of course." It's the least he can do. Caris has a good point about the suffering he's caused Bastran. 

(And he feels like he owes Caris rather a lot, right now, for - being the one to push things in a direction such that maybe, someday, he too will be able to leave.) 

 

<Please keep me updated on whether he seems to be recovering or deteriorating> he adds, privately. <Right now I am assuming we can both return tonight but - if that is not going to be the case then I could use more lead time to come up with an explanation.> 

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<I'll let you know.>

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Altarrin nods, and slips out to do some remote check-ins with his staff. (Probably nothing is an issue, yet, Bastran scheduled a day off and Altarrin travels and checks in from random unspecified locations all the time.) 

It's much less fun than immortality research but it does, in fact, need to be done before he can take his turn at sleeping. 

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After a while spent clinging to Caris and not really finishing any thoughts, Bastran eventually manages to find some fragment of traction on, if not quite pulling himself together, but at least being able to actually want to talk to Caris about his feelings. 

 

He clears his throat. "How did you - keep going? After you realized that serving Asmodeus was...bad." 

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"- well, I sort of had to do something, because otherwise they'd find out and probably trap my soul.

I think I was being - kind of self-destructive, with the plan I came up with. Selling your soul to Hell once you've noticed Hell is bad and are planning to betray them is - it was definitely part of a tendency to solve my problems by suffering as much as possible at them. But also it was - the only way to make things right. And I really wanted to make things right. I really wanted Keltham to be - better off because he met me, I wanted to undo everything I'd done -

- I guess a lot of backwards-motivations, pointed at reversing all the things I'd done for bad reasons -"

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He makes a thoughtful sound. 

"Don't think I...actually want to reverse what I've done? S'wasn't what I - wanted to be achieving - just, wouldn't make it better to take it all back. I don't think. I don't - like the Empire - but not sure it helps anyone to destroy it." 

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"You could pardon people. If you wanted to. I agree that the Empire - isn't like Asmodeus, it doesn't need to be destroyed. It just needs to be - a place where people can care about lots of different things and mostly all work together and they don't need to all be mind-controlled until they can't think."

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"It's not everyone. ...Just everyone important, I guess. I - think if I were a peasant I'd still rather live here than anywhere else? But there's...got to be a thing it could be instead that would be better for everyone." 

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"I wish I knew what other places on Golarion are like. I don't really know if places are...ever really good, or how they do it. 

If I were a peasant I'd want to live wherever I could go to school and not die young. But - but I would've defended Cheliax, on those grounds - I did defend Cheliax on those grounds - and I think I was missing something even apart from how everyone went to Hell."

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He ducks his head. "I don't - I can't think of anywhere I've heard of that doesn't have some sort of horrible problem, even if it's not, er, mind control. Holy Ithik has Atet and that whole horrible religion, I don't - know if it's worse to be a mage there, or a nobleborn man, but I'd never want to be a woman there, or a slave, and I think their peasant serfs are worse off than here. Seejay is - all right, I guess, but their merchant houses order assassins on each other a lot. South of there it's mostly just tiny city-states and nomadic tribespeople until you hit the coast, I - guess they're free, moreso than us, but - I don't know that I'd choose that. ...I mean, might choose it over being Emperor but I don't think most random people or even most mages would." 

Shrug. "Maybe Iftel's actually nice for the people who live there. We hardly know anything about them." 

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"You know what you should do, is spend a lot of time wandering around as a travelling musician, in the Empire and outside it, to get ideas on what's wrong with the Empire. It's a very traditional hobby for Emperors. Abrogail went around in disguise all the time."

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He stares dubiously at Caris. "- What, really?" You can just DO that??? is what he's thinking, but that's a stupid question, obviously an Emperor with absolute power can do what they want, the question is just whether it's a good idea. "Er, who - did her job, in the meantime?" 

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"Her advisors, presumably? I doubt she was ever away for all that long but you can learn a lot just from a day or two in some village you've never visited before."

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"Huh. That still sounds - kind of irresponsible and dangerous." Though also so so tempting. ...Maybe dangerously tempting. He might end up not wanting to go back

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"What does 'irresponsible and dangerous' mean, in terms of things you actually care about."

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"Er. I...might get assassinated? I might be uncontactable when an emergency happens? One of the players at court might try for a power grab?" 

He sighs. Drags a hand over his face. "I'd - feel better about it if Altarrin were there, but. Um. I think - without the compulsion - it just feels wrong to be doing this to him. It's sort of tempting to blame him for - the Empire being the way it is, and for it being - my problem - but, I mean, he's also been making it his problem for. A lot longer than I've been alive." 

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"And I think a lot of the prospects of really and truly fixing it come from...him being free to work on that."

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Why does he want to cry again. This is so stupid.

...Caris wouldn't judge him for it. Or, well, he would, probably, but surely all of Caris' crying-related judgements have already been made very thoroughly. 

- he'd still prefer not to start crying because it gets in the way of talking. 

 

"...I feel like I don't know what it'd mean, for him to be - free to work on it. It's always felt like he was - more tightly tied to the Empire than me, and not just by his compulsions." 

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"Well, the options, as I see it, range from - find someone who'll be a worse Emperor than you, but who is paranoid enough they'll live out their whole life, no civil wars - and then all of us vanish - 

- to, I give you lots of magic items so you can hold the place together without Altarrin and you do that - 

- to, I guess, I learn to run the stupid Empire -"

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"You shouldn't have to run the Empire! That's not the best thing you could be doing even...uh..."

That also sounds stupid now that he's said it. 

 

"- Um. I think if giving someone lots of magic items is - on the table - then probably Altarrin has people in mind? Who he wouldn't think are - adequate, or ready for it - under normal circumstances, but maybe with the right headband and a lot of other magic items?" 

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" - well, then, that seems promising and we should probably do that!"

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"What kinds of magic items are you thinking of, other than the headbands? - though honestly I am assuming you can also make much better headbands than anything I have heard of so far -" 

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"Headbands and protection against poisons and good fire and lightning resistance and good magical armor and spell resistance and contingent healing really ought to make a person...nearly impossible to assassinate, I'd guess? And I am happy to put down civil wars as needed, that's generally the kind of thing one has a friendly high-level wizard for and sixth wouldn't do it at home but I think it would here, I could invisibly go in and statue all the ringleaders. Makes the point very neatly."

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Blink. "- You can turn people into statues? ...I might've already known that, sorry. Um." 

A hesitation.

"- I think Altarrin was worried I wouldn't want you to be more powerful than - this - but maybe that was because of the compulsion. It - just seems good, actually, that you're - powerful enough to do that. And, um, I guess there are other reasons you'd maybe - prefer not to push it further. But -" 

 

An even longer pause.

" - but I think I'd trust you with the power. Even if it's...destabilizing." No, that's a cowardly way to say it. "Even if it's bad for the Empire."

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"I want to be a ninth circle wizard and bend all reality to my will and become a god and make the after-lives. 

 

 

- and it - means a great deal to me - that you'd trust me with that. It is a trust I will really try quite hard to repay."

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...He knows that and also wants to kiss him about it. This wasn't at all the mood he was in until five seconds ago but apparently Caris is - good at that. At something. Bastran isn't sure what. Maybe just being objectively an amazing person. 

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It's probably mostly the having shapeshifted into the hottest person imaginable, with a little bit of the 'having exotic magic that solves many of his problems', but he's happy to have the Emperor believe it's all about his personality. And also happy to kiss the Emperor. No one else is going to enjoy the sex dungeon, here.

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This is a huge improvement on being confusingly miserable and vaguely wanting to be dead! Bastran does not especially trust the non-misery to last but this mostly makes him more enthusiastic about kissing Caris while he can. 

 

He will be somewhat more assertive than usual, in terms of making it clear that he would like to take it further than just kissing. 

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Caris is happy to oblige while also making it seem like this was entirely his own idea and not Bastran's. Probably in the long run they should figure out something that's a little more resilient-to-Bastran-learning-the-wrong-piece-of-true-information than this but it's only the fourth date!! 

 

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Caris is very good and Bastran is having an excellent time in the moment. He even feels...mostly okay...and only needs to stomp on the urge to start crying or shaking uncontrollably a couple of times. 

 

It's late afternoon by the time they're done. 

"...Think I could go back now," Bastran says, without lifting his head from Caris' chest. "Should - probably have Altarrin replace the compulsion, for now, it'd be pretty bad right now if...someone noticed." 

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"Would it? What would they do about it? ...I was thinking maybe he could give you a slightly different one, something like - 'consider the interests of the Empire', so you can - access that state of mind, or lean on it, but it doesn't control you -

- letting Altarrin get his own compulsions put back was a mistake -"

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"Um. Kastil would panic if he found out and - I guess the Office of Inquiry can't actually do anything against Imperial orders but I don't want to have to arrest him again, I felt terrible about it the first time. Altarrin could probably manage a version that's less...controlling...and still sort of looks the same at a glance?"

Sigh. "Why do you think it was a mistake, with Altarrin?" 

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"Because he couldn't let me do it again, and he couldn't act on a lot of the stuff he'd realized while free of it, and he couldn't notice that was the problem he was having, except very indirectly, and so he just kind of miserably worked himself to death?

 

 

- the Office of Inquiry presumably already believes I'm puppetting you, I think whatever costs are associated with that we've paid them."

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"...I should probably try to avoid accidentally miserably working myself to death, yeah." It's not currently tempting but he suspects the mood where it would be is not that far off.

"I, um, do think I was - leaning on it, before. Maybe in...ways that were bad for me...but it was at least good for getting things done, and - I'm going to need to get a lot of things done, if I want to - arrange a successor who won't be terrible for the Empire." 

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"I think you definitely want something there you can lean on. I don't want it to be - something that'd make you not want it taken off later."

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"My standard one actually - doesn't do that as much? Altarrin would've had additional compulsions against tampering with his other compulsions, even indirectly, but I just had the one. I guess it was still - sort of self-protecting inherently, just in the normal way where - caring about something usually means not wanting to stop caring about it? ...I think most of it was that I'd never considered whether not having it was an option." 

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"It doesn't ...serve the Empire to think about whether serving the Empire is actually what you want to do, or if it's best for the world and everyone who lives in it. Honestly I think there's an argument that even from the Empire's interests there should be someone among your advisors who can think about something else, but I recognize that in practice then the gods maneuver for them to kill you."

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"...I think Altarrin can manage to think about it, but he's - doing a different thing, I think? He can - distinguish the spirit of the Empire that he wanted to build, I guess, from the actual one as it is now."

He closes his eyes. "I think it'd just be a lot easier in general to have the Empire be a good place - to have anywhere be a good place, probably - if the gods wanted to help. Or even just - not get in the way." 

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"Yeah. It's - hard to fight gods. I think I can maybe add - enough redundancy to make it possible without being maximally paranoid at the expense of everything else all the time.

What was - your and Altarrin's - long-term plan before I arrived? Just - wipe the gods' followers off the whole continent and then maybe they'll stop meddling?"

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He squirms. "I - don't think I was looking that far ahead. Maybe Altarrin was, but...maybe not. I think maybe the compulsions are bad for looking at the bigger picture that way, when there's - always something urgent that needs addressing..." 

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"If I were going to do a mind control empire I think I'd have as a high-priority to - reevaluate priorities while subject to different compulsions at least once a year - and a compulsion that gracefully handles sufficiently out-of-context things - I don't know exactly how I'd design it -"

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"I think maybe mind control empires are just usually bad, and - hard to get right." 

 

Aaaand he does not feel incredibly ready, actually, but he's fairly sure that he isn't about to have another breakdown and he really should, at this point, get up and put clothes on and go find Altarrin to confirm that he's ready to return to the Empire.

He will drag himself through the steps of this, vaguely hoping that it starts feeling less like a 'should' and more like a real thing he cares about once he's got some kind of compulsion back in place.  

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Caris smiles at him, not especially gently. "Go run your Empire. I think you'll do fine. You're very well-behaved."

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He's...not sure that being well behaved is especially a qualification for being Emperor of the Eastern Empire but it does, still, somehow help to hear it. He hugs Caris, but doesn't cling at all, and then walks briskly out to find Altarrin. 

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Altarrin has managed to catch up on all the critically time-sensitive things via communication-spell, and even squeezed in two candlemarks to sleep. It's really convenient how the Ring of Sustenance means he doesn't need more sleep when he's semi-accidentally stayed up for nearly 24 candlemarks straight, though it might be less convenient when he's predictably unable to sleep at the normal time tonight

He's been poking at immortality research some more, but rises immediately when Bastran enters the room. "Are you all right?" 

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That's an unfairly impossible question to answer right now! Bastran makes a face. 

 

He takes a deep breath. "Hold still, don't resist. That's an Imperial order. ...I should have done this a long time ago." 

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Altarrin obeys, of course. He looks politely puzzled but not alarmed. (He is perhaps slightly alarmed.) 

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Bastran is not incredibly skillful at this, especially compared to Altarrin, though to be fair no one measures up to Altarrin. He forces down the self-consciousness about it, and focuses on unpicking - not all of the compulsions - but the most strongly mind-affecting ones, loyalty to the Empire and to Bastran's person, and then the additional layer that makes tampering with the other compulsions not something he can think about. 

 

 

This is kind of terrifying but he hopes Caris is proud of him. 

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(Caris would be SO proud but he's actually recuperating in a Rope Trick from a very stressful day. A good day, but a stressful one.)

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Altarrin is genuinely surprised! And then unsure whether he should be - is that unfair to Bastran - he desperately wishes he knew what Caris had talked about with him - 

 

He holds very still, both physically and mentally, until Bastran is done. 

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Bastran works for several minutes, his face blank with concentration, and then lets his breath out. He takes a step closer, reaches out to take both of Altarrin's hands. 

"I'm so sorry," he says quietly. 

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"...I rather thought I owed you an apology. Caris definitely thought so. I - had a choice - you really didn't." 

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A quiet, bitter laugh. “You haven’t had a choice, though, not in a long time. Maybe not in this lifetime at all. You landed here as a child, didn't you? You were fostered at court, just like me." He shakes his head. "I don't - it doesn't really matter. I'm just...sorry I didn't realize earlier, how badly it was hurting you to stay." 

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"If I wanted you to know, I really could have communicated better." 

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"- I don't know that you could have, you were barely allowed to think about–" 

 

He stops himself. "Nevermind. Just, I want things to be different. I - want the Empire to be a place that doesn't chew people up and break them, I want it to be - the thing you always wanted to build. But I think to start with it has to be - not breaking us. And for you that means working on the research you actually think will matter. I want to find a way to make that happen." 

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Wow. Altarrin is SO CURIOUS what Caris said to him!!! 

He meets Bastran's eyes, levelly. "I would be deeply grateful. And - I think it will be what lets us win, in the end." Maybe not even at a horrifying cost. 

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"I hope so." 

He lets go of Altarrin's hands. Shakes himself a little, trying to loosen the pointless tension in his shoulders. 

"...I don't know if I want to leave, but - I think it would help if it felt like an option. And Caris had an interesting idea. I know there's no one you'd strongly back for the succession right now, but - is there anyone whose limitation is just not being experienced or careful enough? Because - Caris can make magic items. He can make them nearly impossible to kill, and give the the fanciest Wisdom kind of headband, and...that'd go a long way, right?" 

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...Altarrin genuinely hadn't thought of that! And he really should have! 

"That is a good point. I - have not reviewed my backup list that recently but I ought have a look. Caris should perhaps have a say, too, if he is making the magic items." 

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Nod. "We can come back another time, talk about it then. For now I think we'd best get back to the Empire, and - you should redo the compulsion. I don't want to cause a scare, it's terrible timing, but...Caris had an idea, that you could figure out a variation that looks about the same to mage-sight but isn't - controlling, or is only as controlling as I'm choosing to let it be? So I can - use it for motivation, I think I actually do have a lot of working habits built on that, but not get - trapped in a rut again. Er, and if it's not too complicated I could do yours that way too, if you're worried about routine checks?" 

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Altarrin considers it. 

"...I think I am not actually incredibly worried about routine checks. It would have been very bad if it were noticed when Carissa's position at court was so tenuous, but do not expect to be in danger. I can do a modified one for you, though, if you prefer that." 

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"I think I prefer it, yes." He ducks his head. "Thank you." 

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It's fiddly work, getting a compulsion to have exactly the effects he wants, and no others, while also looking (misleadingly) exactly the way he wants as well. Altarrin focuses on it for nearly ten minutes. 

After he's done, he wants to sit down for a few minutes before Gating them back, it wasn't a lot of mage-power but it was still effortful. 

 

 

And he'll try reaching out to Caris with the comms spell. (He's got it to the point where his artifact can pick up on the spell even from an extradimensional space, as long as it's the kind of extradimensional space with a door.) 

<What did you tell him?> 

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<I mostly didn't? He just thought about it a bit on his own. My understanding is that Good people mostly just...do Good once you get out of their way? That's the whole point?>

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Is it that simple? It doesn't feel like it should be that simple, but maybe he's just, again, failing to give Bastran enough credit. 

<He told me you spoke of finding a successor. I think - I expected him to be more afraid of the unknown? That considering leaving would be - harder, even if it hurt to stay.: 

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<I mean, he did spend a while crying. I don't know if it was specifically about that. I think he'd - love to leave. Do it tomorrow, if the place wouldn't fall apart. I suggested he go pretend to be a wandering minstrel, see his Empire from the ground up, and I think he really liked the idea.>

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<...Oh. He would like that. I - want to see what we can do, so that he can leave without anything falling apart, and - not have it be too bad in the meantime. But we should in fact go back now. We can speak of it on our next visit.> 

 

Pause. 

<...He removed my compulsions. I - am going to leave them off, I think, I am - much less worried about it being noticed now that you are safe and outside the Empire's power.> 

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< - I wish I'd understood in the first place, what I was asking of you.>

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<I know. There are a number of things I would - know better how to convey, if I had to do it over. But this is where we are now, and - at least you are free, and I hope soon all of us will be.> 

And he'll bid Caris farewell, and prepare to Gate out with the Emperor back to the capital. (With some detours, so that it doesn't look like they're both coming back from the same mysterious unknown location together.) 

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Having the modified compulsion in place is helpful and distressing at the same time, which really just seems unfair. 

 

It's...stabilizing, though, to be back in familiar surroundings, even familiar surroundings he hates. There is, unsurprisingly, a pile-up of paperwork to review, and half a dozen advisors who want urgent meetings with him, but...he hates it less, now that he can credibly tell himself it won't be forever. 

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Caris spends all her time trying to reinvent spells from her world and making new impressive magic items. She and Altarrin and Bastran should all have boots of Teleport and rings of evasion and she'll see if she can make rings of sustenanceandprotection, the overlapping spell problem is supposed to be hard but solvable with enough spellsilver and she has arbitrary spellsilver. She eventually hangs an antimagic field and is very proud of herself and gets to work on making a magic item version of it so she can have an antimagic dungeon that her Teleport Trap redirects into. She figures out Flesh To Stone and is...not actually tempted... to decorate the wizard tower with the petrified statues of those who have offended her. 

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And, mostly during his late-night hours when everyone without a Ring of Sustenance is asleep, Altarrin considers his options for Bastran's successor. 

 

The existing emergency options, for if Bastran were to be suddenly assassinated, aren't ones he's fond of. The Empire produces plenty of ambitious, reasonably competent, reasonably paranoid nobles, with the right connections for other ministers to back them, with enough favors owed to them to consolidate a stable power base. In emergency conditions, that's the highest priority; Emperors who don't have broad backing tend not to remain Emperors for very long, and unplanned leadership transitions are bad for the Empire. 

 

This isn't an emergency, and he can aim for better than just 'will stay in power'. The issue is that the Empire does not produce many people who are like Bastran, in terms of striving not to hurt anyone, to be a good person. Still pragmatic enough to secure their power base first, you don't survive court politics for long without that attitude, but - sufficiently bothered by costs paid in human suffering to keep looking for options that minimize it. 

And...the other issue is that he doesn't just want another Bastran. He wants someone who shares Bastran's principles and Good-aligned motivations, but who won't hate being Emperor.

Taking all of those considerations at face value, there are basically no candidates who meet all the criteria. 

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In this case, though, he can loosen some of the other requirements. If it's planned, he has setup time; he can pick someone who doesn't yet have enough connections or favors owed, but could with the right support cultivate them over the next year or two. Maybe more importantly, he can throw a wider net on age. It's normally unheard of for an Emperor to take the throne before age thirty, and even that is considered young and inexperienced, but the fanciest kind of headband for Wisdom will go a long way. And he would normally draw a cutoff above age seventy or so - mages can live a lot longer than that, but as he was noticing himself, but people still tend to get less mentally quick and flexible, and life extension magic doesn't mean you keep the energy levels of your youth. But a headband for intelligence would help the second, a belt of Constitution would mostly address the first, and of course a Ring of Sustenance would give them more candlemarks in the day to stay on top of their work. 

 

This gives him more options. Count Eladore, age seventy-three, has the right humanitarian outlook - albeit in a stodgy, conservative duty-bound sort of way - and he has the needed experience and connections, and could probably keep up with an Emperor's duties if he had a +6 headband of Cunning. Baron Liaron, twenty-nine, is reasonably clever and thoughtful even without any enhancement, and might make a decent Emperor if he had more personal presence than a wet burlap bag – maybe a headband for Splendor and a year of close mentoring and encouragement would address that? 

Neither is delightful as an option. 

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...what if he widens the net to include possible candidates who aren't mages? 

 

The Emperor is always a mage, and nearly always an Adept. Not because it's a law or anything, just because the Emperor does, fundamentally, need to be able to maintain their position by force if necessary. 

But arcane magic can be taught to anyone clever enough...

 

 

He'll go through a longer list of names, this time. 

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....Oh, that's an intriguing possibility. 

 

 

Duchess Yara Velane. Twenty-four years old, one of the rare cases of an unmarried woman holding a noble land in her own right - and one of the even rarer cases of a noble who didn't spend their childhood as a foster/hostage at court. She was the illegitimate only child of Duke Velane, who died of a wasting illness in his early thirties but, first, granted his young bastard daughter a title and appointed her as heir to one of the oldest and largest duchies in the Empire, nestled along the coast less than fifty miles from Jacona itself.

She was, at the time, fifteen. 

She's not a mage. She is Gifted - one of the rarer Mind-Gifts, not much investigated in her childhood but marked down as probably Empathy. She is, by all accounts, brilliant and ambitious and charismatic, and genuinely loyal to the Empire but, first and foremost, deeply devoted to her people. ...And, according to her detractors, stubborn and hotheaded and prone to flights of fancy. 

Probably a headband of Wisdom would help with that. 

 

Altarrin has met her personally only in passing. His impression was a positive one, but he would clearly need to look into it further. She's definitely the most interesting candidate, and probably the highest-variance one. 

 

He'll take the shortlist with him on his next visit to Carissa's wizard tower. 

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"Altarrin." Carissa has made herself a - it's not a proper Robe of the Archmagi, not really, it doesn't give her the resistance bonuses or the spell resistance, and it's purple because fuck Pharasma (and she's not sure what her alignment is these days). It's form-fitting and looks very nice on her and positively glows with magic. She's also made herself a wizard hat even though she's the only person on this planet who can cast an Antimagic Field. It's also purple.

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She's so happy and it's delightful! Altarrin hugs her, and makes impressed noises about the robe after examining it with mage-sight. 

 

Once he's caught up on her recent activities - all of which are so impressive! Altarrin is delighted! - he can pull out his list. 

"These are the candidates I am considering for Bastran's replacement." And he can go through the pros and cons of each.