variously evil!Elves meet Elspeth
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Cool. Where does she go to explain things to Valar.

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Valinor?

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She supposes she could build a raft to sleep on and tow it across. If there's not a better way to get there.

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Airplanes?

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Is there one lying around? She could make one from scratch, she guesses, but it would take longer than rafting across a sea.

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No, Doriath doesn't have any, but the Noldor have them whizzing around left and right.

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Well, would they like to donate one to Project Valar Having A Fucking Clue, she inquires in her next letter to Findekáno.

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He replies sure, but she should be careful lest they Vala it out of the sky in annoyance or fear.

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How does one be careful in such a way as to not annoy or frighten Valar?

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Go to the ocean and petition Ulmo humbly for several months, generally.

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Can her berry bush be potted?

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Melian can give her a cutting.

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Elspeth and her potted cutting head to the seashore and she attempts to get ahold of Ulmo.

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It takes a month! When he rises out of the sea he is like Melian, but moreso, and she finds herself kneeling in the water.

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Well, that's... a thing they can do, she supposes.

Hello. I can explain incarnates to Ainur. I heard you might be interested.

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Very much so.

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Anything specific, or should I just sort of hit you with everything?

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Do you understand why the Noldor rebelled and left?

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I'm not completely up on the history but I can try to interpret the facts for you if you tell me the story.

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We invited them to come to Valinor. And they did, and lived there, and then they heard that Men would be coming to the Outer Lands and they were jealous that their birthright would go to lesser races so they asked to leave. We said that it was unwise, but that they had leave. Then they murdered a lot of people and stole their boats and left.

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They were jealous? She has not seen this made manifest; how does Ulmo think he knows that?

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It started when they found out about Men inheriting the Outer Lands. And they said 'we alone shall be the rulers of Arda, no other race shall oust us!' What would you expect it to look like if they were jealous?

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Probably less of all this only mildly exploitative governance of humans thing they're doing. Also they might have been saying that the Valar were not suitable rulers of Arda.

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Why would they think that?

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Lots of reasons. Here they are in all their very quickly explained glory.

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