Apr 11, 2021 2:16 AM
at the end of all things feanorians in a sunnyverse
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"Now this sounds like a task I'm qualified for. Pune, find cultists, stop cultists, get out before anyone else planning to interfere with the apocalypse arrives?"

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"Maybe worthwhile."

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"I want a much more detailed rundown of who might interfere. And of the complications magic introduces. And for that matter of why there are cultists trying to end the world -"

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"Aww, c'mon, are you saying you wouldn't try to end the world if the chance presented itself?"

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"I asked about their reasons, not whether reasons exist in principle."

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"Not a spectacularly reassuring answer."

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"- can we not do this again right now -"

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"I can check why the cultists are a-culting and if they turn out to not be suicidal I can have a go at not killing them."

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"I have a list of organizations and individuals noted to have intervened in sixty recent averted apocalypses." He passes it across the table. 

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"I hope you're not expecting me to read this."

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"It's in your alphabet."

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"Huh."

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"What's the apocalypse after Pune?"

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"Keep in mind that there are probably lots of apocalypses the timing of which is not already known to someone who we acquired books from. I expect we're catching maybe ten percent of apocalypses on this list, maybe only five. But the next one we have here is in January, in Stockholm."

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"I think this is a waste of time."

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"I was kind of expecting you to say that."

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"It looks like handling each of these individually is going to require substantial planning just to mitigate the risks we already know about, and that most of the risks are ones we don't know to look out for. It looks like most of these organizations have a high mortality rate, which we cannot tolerate. Magic can be used to locate a Silmaril; magic can probably be used to reconstitute bodies without Mandos; once we've done that you can risk your bodies on putting out these stupid brush fires, if you like.

Right now, the only apocalypses that we know about are also known to other parties, because they're ones whose time and place are derivable. I agree that none of the other parties seem competent but that's sufficiently surprising that we might assume there are some constraints we haven't identified."

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"I agree with most of that but I don't think it's actually very surprising that all the existing institutions are terrible. They are largely made up of humans, have an appalling mortality rate, and run on a confusing mess of ancient traditions some of which are vital for reasons they no longer know and some of which are just disastrous. I wouldn't expect competence under the conditions and its absence isn't remotely surprising."

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"They're doing work you can't be bothered to do."

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"That makes them heroic, it doesn't make them competent."

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"That's a convenient distinction to consider important."

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"We will intervene once we have a much clearer picture of all the other actors on the scene, including an understanding of why they're as competent or incompetent as they are. The world will hold until then; we haven't encountered any indications that the risks of its destruction have grown in the last few centuries?"

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"Not yet but I want to emphasize how much we don't yet know."

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Bounce bounce - "so we need some more books."

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"And field experiments, which is item three on the agenda."

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