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"...yep but, like, worse at it than Sauron, unless you've got a way to surprise him and assuming he hasn't picked up new tricks."

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"Oh well. Thanks anyway."

And this information is propagated to the peal and Elspeth takes a moment to earwire the Telperion Valar in case they were curious.

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They think that's terrible, thank you Loki for checking.

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...Boots starts working on an anti-teleportation spell that could be cast on Sauron and is specific to wizardry teleportation so he can still be moved by other means.

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Good skill. How long -

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Few weeks, but we can't move the planet and can't guarantee being able to catch him inclined to stay substantial so it's not a complete solution.

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Can we move everyone else off the planet and then black hole it?

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Don't have a way to target the people over the whole thing in one go, not-in-one-go would constitute warning, and anyway if Vulcan and Afterlife are anything to go by they'd probably object to losing their animals and stuff.

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Probably. I suppose we can still find him if he does leave between now and then.

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Yeah, and he doesn't know we know he's bad news, or that we can find him.

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And he is a Maia, he's not aiming to do harm on a short-term scale or he could have already done a lot of it -

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He's not even being particularly corrupt as politics goes far as we can tell.

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Didn't the Space one get elected orc president without even rigging it? Maybe they get off on at least one thing that is not inherently evil.

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Maybe. I suppose if we get him safely pinned down in Loki's neighborhood we could ask about whether he can settle for nonevil political ambitions here on out, wouldn't that be nice.

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Is there anything he could conceivably say that would convince you?

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Probably not.

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Yeah. Even if we met one before Utumno I don't know.

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I would feel worse about killing one of those. I mean, if you leave Ardas alone long enough lots of people we like do not acquit themselves very well.

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I know. But - I would in fact feel uneasy about trusting Fëanáro's family if they later-years turned into sadists bent on causing as much evil as possible. They don't.

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Yeah, "would feel worse about killing", maybe "would consider stashing in a neighborhood where we're nigh-omnipotent for suspicious observation", not "would let him go do whatever".

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Fair enough.

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I can do spell development anywhere, are you someplace Bell-friendly in Space?

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What makes a place Bell-unfriendly? Well, I know one answer to that but I have detected no hostility to either science or hubris.

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I would feel awkward about showing up on Afterlife even if they don't all know what Cam's girl alts look like.

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I would feel awkward in Afterlife because it has Valar and their alts did something unforgivable, so I guess I can relate. Anyway, no, Ambaróna.

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