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They can... do beheadings? That's allowed, right? It might take a couple tries for some of the tougher people but it should still only be a few moments. 

"Yes, I—" He looks miserable and terrified. 

(The Inquisition — might be full of demon cultists, except maybe that's just an enchantment, except every time he thinks it through he feels that same sickening sense of suspicion that they could be, and it makes sense, he's heard the way some of the Inquisitors talk, but he's sure this isn't how he was thinking about it a few minutes ago — he was definitely enchanted about Irabeth, he keeps having nagging doubts but they don't make sense, he can set them aside, but that doesn't mean everything he was worried about was an enchantment, but it might be anyway—)

"—please, I'm not going to hurt anyone, I'll do whatever you say, I know you're a crusader—"

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Beheadings are allowed yes.

"You know that now but I do not think you know it stably. But I don't know much about the relevant enchantments - Nenio, is it coming loose at all?"

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"Despite the new presentation of his symptoms, he still appears to be enchanted in the same way!"

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"—no, please, I, I know I was wrong before, I know the cultists weren't really crusaders—" He can't stop thinking about the possibility but it isn't true

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"I regret the situation but do not have an unambiguous improvement to hand." Letter to the inquisition gets folded up.

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He breaks down into incoherent sobbing.

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Wow that's uncomfortable how are the executions going.

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More-or-less as expected. This guy tried to pitch them all on serving Deskari. This guy started swearing that he's going to come back as a vengeful ghost and haunt the Crusade, it might be worth sending his body back to Kenabres to be buried in hallowed ground if there's any left. This guy tried to break out of his restraints and attack the executioner but it didn't work. These guys haven't been executed yet because they're still talking to the Sarenrites.

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Noted, the contingent swinging through Kenabres to do things like send enchanted dude to the inquisition can include someone to haul this body if it's high risk.

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Anything else he's hoping to take care of before they march out?

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No, but he wants to experiment with doing informal classes and question-and-answers about the new policies on the move, so anyone who wants to say anything about Don't Fucking Rape Prisoners should walk near him and he will take inquiries about that.

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There are definitely some people willing to make inquiries about that! People are notably less worried about doing so than they would be in Cheliax. Initial questions include:

  • Does the rule only apply to prisoners that they've already taken in or to everyone on the other side no matter what?
  • What if the cultist is a Nocticula cultist? 
  •  Is this ever even going to come up? Most cultists are men.
  • Rape is bad, but it's Good to show mercy to Evildoers, and it doesn't seem like this policy is very merciful. (This is from one of the people in the unit that had a fight.)
  •  What a great rule! Has he considered also cutting way down on the number of camp followers and banning everyone from sleeping with them?
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- They are not allowed to rape Literally Anyone, Ever, but prisoners are particularly obviously rape and not some other category of interaction. Non-rape sex with the enemy would be prosecuted under a different statute.
- Then it seems particularly foolish to get into a vulnerable position with them.
- It is also against the rule to rape men, but it's convenient that many people will never particularly experience the temptation to violate this rule.
- It is Good to show mercy to Evildoers insofar as this does not just enable them to Do more Evil. Noting that someone has Done Evil and then placing them in the same Evil-engendering situation digs them into a worse alignment hole, wrongs whoever their further victims might be, and contributes to disorder in the ranks. A force that can follow its regulations consistently and trust each other will be better at all the other Good they are doing.
- He will consider dismissing extraneous noncombatants if they have a supply problem, and he does not recommend that anyone patronize the camp followers, especially not if they have alignment-sensitive powers and are not (he supposes) specifically Calistrians or something. But he would rather have fewer rules that people can get in the habit of actually following, rather than an even more idealistic set that will ding more people's Law and have a more scattershot effect on the actual improvements to outcomes achieved. He has been assured that there is a Sarenrite order for everyone's bastard children.

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  • Wait, that rule applies to male cultists too??
  •  If he's worried about them doing it again he could assign them to something else instead of guarding prisoners.
  • Why does it matter if it's bad for their Law? What matters is whether it's bad for their Good! (A heated debate ensues about whether it's Evil to sleep with camp followers.)
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- Yes! It's good to have this cleared up now rather than after anyone decided to rape a male cultist. Tell your friends.
- Yes, his plan is that for a first offense he will assign them to something else: the penal battalion. Supervising people is expensive; this army already has a supervision-heavy division, so he will use it, but supervising people any more than that trades off against keeping responsible non-rapist soldiers, who can manage to do the right thing without being watched the whole time, supplied and supported and managed well.
- It is fine for people to be Chaotic Good but it is pretty hard to manage an army that is trying to be a haven for large numbers of these people because of how it must operate in a coordinated fashion. War, being a tragic human endeavor, is usually already in itself pretty bad for people's Good, but Axis is also a paradise.
- It is plausibly at least somewhat a little bit Evil to sleep with camp followers - he isn't sure, but he'd be surprised if any paladins were getting up to it, and that's a strong indicator - but at this time he recommends that people avoid it for this reason on their own recognizance and not because he is banning it. He cannot ban every Evil act, especially because in plenty of cases whether something is an Evil act depends on your mindset (this is probably why they have a policy of not having paladins conduct executions even though he has conducted executions and not lost Iomedae's power).

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  • It doesn't take that much supervision to stop people from having access to prisoners in particular, they already have to make sure no cultists sneak in to break out their fellows.
  • He doesn't need to worry about war being bad for people's alignments! War is Good if it's against the demons! 
  • It would probably be easier to get people to follow this policy if he pretended it was an anti-succubus measure. Has he considered doing that?
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- It does take a lot of management to get everybody's various supervision needs special-cased; raping prisoners is only one of the things that he doesn't want happening under his command. If you turn out to need More Supervision you get sent to the More Supervision Battalion.
- War is bad for people's alignments for reasons other than it being about specifically killing people; if that were all then it being against demons would help much more than it does (though even in a war against demons it turns out there are so many cultists, who are not literally themselves demons). It also puts them in stressful situations, requires unusual sacrifices in living conditions and autonomy and suchlike, exposes them to opportunities to compound small mistakes into awful disasters, and gives them amounts and kinds of power over each other that most people don't have instincts to handle carefully enough.
- He's not allowed to lie, but this policy does as it happens also have some anti-succubus value.

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  • It seems like this policy makes it really easy for cultists to waste Crusade resources by accusing people of rape.
  • What if someone gets Dominated by a succubus? Or Suggested by a succubus? 
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- Cultists will take up Crusade resources. That is sort of what they do, since they are cultists. This is one of the many ways in which they may be expected to require resource investment until their cults are stamped out.
- Dominates are not punishable; Suggestions are, because it should not sound reasonable to rape a prisoner. It should sound like an obviously stupid thing to do.

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The current group of people is out of questions so instead they're going to argue about the extent to which people are culpable for things a succubus influences them to do.

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Some amount of that is probably healthy, though if it gets too tangential he would like everybody to go tell their squads any recently clarified information that might be news to them or their friends, and put about that the next march-and-talk topic is illegal orders.

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  • Does he mean 'orders you shouldn't follow because they suggest your commander is mind-controlled'?

  • They already know they aren't supposed to do crimes. Or at least, you know, crimes that actually matter.

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It is a good thing to keep in mind that your commander could be enchanted but illegal orders are deeper and more interesting than that! He will read aloud the passage from the Lastwall handbook, though he doesn't expect it to affect anyone as deeply as him.

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They have so many more questions now!!!

  • What are they actually supposed to do if someone gives them an illegal order? Generally when someone gives you an order they expect you to follow it and are prepared to punish you if not.
  • A few years back someone ordered this guy to break an oath of secrecy and he did. Was he... not supposed to do this. The person ordering him said it was fine because he'd made it to a cultist (he hastens to clarify that he hadn't realized he was swearing it to a cultist) and cultists have no honor.
  • Does this mean they can get out of conscription by swearing an oath not to be conscripted? Actually, does this mean conscription is just totally not allowed, since conscripts have to swear oaths of service?
  • What does it mean for something to serve no lawful purpose? Presumably it's different than being illegal, since that's a separate clause? 
  • Which punishments are severe enough that they require a court-martial?
  • Lots of things are technically crimes that no one really cares about, are all of those illegal orders or does it only count if someone is ordering them to break his new rules?
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- It is your responsibility to disobey an illegal order even if your malfeasant superior has authority and means to punish you with it in the same way it is your responsibility to be uncooperative to a demon even if they have claws and intend to claw you with them. He will take reports of illegal orders extremely seriously and follow up on them but in the instant this is just one of the ways being a soldier requires courage. That said, you'd better be right that the order is illegal when you say 'sir that is an illegal order'; the list is short and memorizable.
- He should not have been ordered to do this. Quite probably he should have broken the oath of secrecy he made to a cultist - being an oathbreaker is very serious but you have to solve that with careful oathmaking in the first place, you can't really patch it by being like "oh well I guess I'll follow my Law into the Abyss" - but he should not have been ordered to do so, just, like, probably advised to do so and treated with distrust appropriate to someone who swore an oath of secrecy to a cultist if he didn't.
- They cannot get out of conscription by swearing an oath to not be conscripted although this idea is not unrelated to why they can't conscript Abadaran clerics. It is in fact pretty fucky to make conscripts swear oaths of service and he will need to look into what work that policy is doing and see about changing it.
- It is not a crime (as far as he knows given that Mendevian law is not written down anywhere he could just read it) to, say, kiss your commanding officer's boots, if you happened to take that into your head of your own accord, though it would be an extremely weird thing to decide to do; but it is outrageously inappropriate for him to order you to do it because it serves no licit objective.
- The handbook's got a list!
- He is not attempting to enforce All Mendevian Law in this situation, but if you do in fact happen to know that it is a crime to... sell wine on Oathdays or something, as an example he just made up... then that does in fact constitute a reason to refuse an order to do so.

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