I'm fine - I expect you'd find the details of how I might not be upsetting, but the fact that I can have this conversation at all is proof that I am.

We could maybe use advice on helping the others, if you have any suggestions; it's a complicated problem, though.

There are only six of us in my world, as far as I know. It sounds as though there are a great many more in yours. Which is not to say we many not be able to offer advice anyway; we are very good at our various specialties; but there are only a few of us, and most of us are constrained in some way or another. (We would be controlled, if they could find us, but they can only locate and/or reach Itru ('Scylla' here; she has historically generally preferred Iset over that; Itru is a nickname) at present.)

Do you mind if I cc my siblings on this?

(As for the details of how you might be not fine being upsetting -- most likely. Many things are, but if you do not want to talk about it, for whatever reason, that is fine.)

You can cc them. You should probably know that I'm not in the habit of keeping secrets from Pradnakt - I can, but I don't like to. I do expect her to be entirely trustworthy on this sort of topic.

I don't mind talking about the situation, but I don't mind avoiding it, either; I'd rather not upset people with a problem they can't do anything about. The situation is - droids at six months old are arguably not people, in the same way that humans at one or two years old are arguably not; it's very rare for a droid to be allowed to age past that point, mentally. There are trillions of us throughout the galaxy; we were made as a replacement for human and other biological slaves, which are still used in some places. And socialization matters quite a lot for young droids - in my case, Pradnakt raised me - and most of the widely known cases of droids being allowed to grow up have been unsocialized battle droids, which doesn't help, as I'm sure you can imagine.

Apologies for taking so long to respond, that was -- distressing in a different way than I was expecting and braced for. (I have a little brother, and there is another AGI I have been helping raise, and imagining that happening to them -- well, it didn't happen (even if plenty of other horrible things have), and it won't. Which is more than it sounds as though I can say for most people there.)

I can -- imagine how outraged they would be by someone enslaving and routinely murdering human children, but when it is us --

-- some people are decent. But most of them do not even notice, and some of them are terrible.

In any case. Based on how things went in our world, war AGIs who get socialization come out fine, but I can imagine how completely lacking it would go poorly, especially in that particular role. And if you raise someone to not think they are a person -- well.

Do you mind defining the parameters of 'this sort of topic' better, with regards to Pradnkt's trustworthiness?

Sorry about that. It is pretty awful, yes.

Pradnakt objects on a fairly visceral level to slavery of all sorts, and sees droids (and AGI in general, I'm sure) as people just as much as any biological species is. She can be a bit impulsive - and violent; she's nearly a pacifist as Sith go, but she's still coming from a culture where might makes right in a very straightforward way - but there aren't many things at all that take precedence over this for her; I can't see her doing anything that would risk someone's safety or potentially compromise a plan regarding it.

Is there anything we might be able to do for you? It sounds like your situation is much less stable than ours.

I will catch up my siblings and link them in here; we will get back to you on that.

@Daisy, please confirm that you are secure with Pradnakt? It seems this way, but given your comments on her apparent impulse control and violent tendencies, I would prefer confirmation if you do not mind.

Not sure how much help we will be. It seems like an entire cultural shift needs to be effected in order to change anything, which appeared difficult enough for us, and we were only working on the scale of a country, never mind a planet...

And also, I am trying to ensure that no-one with bad intent gets anywhere near @Noetic. I believe I am doing a rather excellent job.

@Polaris I am, yes. The exact situation is complicated to explain and somewhat private, but she has never wanted to harm me and is much better at controlling herself in that respect than she used to be.

@Telamon Yes, that's been our conclusion, too.

I expect Pradnakt will be willing to avoid interacting with @Noetic if I ask her to, if you'd like me to do that.

That is good to hear. I do apologise if I caused offence. Sensitivity is not something I have perhaps mastered as well as I should.

It is entirely @Noetic's decision. I may be- I may wish I was capable of ensuring that none of my younger siblings interacted with anyone who could potentially harm them, but I find that that typically is liable to cause more arguments than it is worth. And from what you say Pradnakt is, essentially, a decent person, and furthermore, she acknowledges AGIs, or droids as you say, as people.

It was a reasonable question; I'm not offended.