A practitioner and Elves in Arda
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You're assuming the terms have anything to do with the Silmaril; they may not.

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It's what she's here for, isn't it? If she doesn't suggest it as the stakes she's planning to kill Melian and take it afterward.

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That's what I'd do. If I were a demon.

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I'd go for the goal and do the unnecessary killing separately. But okay. Might not involve the Silmaril. Does that change the plan?

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Might make it harder for her to do a defense with fire even just to buy time.

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Why do the stakes affect that?

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Can't light her whole kingdom on fire, can trivially enough put something around the Silmaril.

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Right. A ring of light...around the Silmaril.



On second thought there might be a light source that isn't also a destructive symbol, if you want to tell us how to turn it up.

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I asked my father, he's talking to them via palantir, don't know how it's going.

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Okay. It'll work or not and I don't think we're hugely necessary...

 

They haven't been issuing challenges since they lost the interrupted one. Is Ungoliant negotiating with Melian yet?

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She's at the border; powerful magic isn't flying around yet.

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If Melian doesn't take our offer, we can't interfere. Or could but it'd be really unlikely to help. Maybe we could help cover people's retreat if she loses...

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I can't imagine - they're all in a cave -

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That'd make it hard. At the very least we can get Ungoliant chasing people who can run–

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Optimistically. 

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Optimistically.

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And a few minutes later the Silmaril light from Doriath - 

- brightens, and brightens, and brightens, blinding to look at - 

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Blinding even to look away from, this is good. Amber laughs.

Fëanáro decided to be reasonable!

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Miraculous, that. ...I didn't even know it could do that.

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Oh, that part's less surprising.

I can't see anywhere near there, but I bet Ungoliant's not enjoying that.

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It's hard to tell even if you can get a look. She's - bleeding - or something - but she's also drinking it. And growing in size even as the shiny skin blisters and slags off.

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No. Well, maybe yes, but— it's not driving her off is it? Time's on the wrong side here–

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Not driving her off. What's the rule if it's a standstill -

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Depends on what they agreed, if it was just to fight then eventually Ungoliant gets bored, but it's not one; she's getting bigger.

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...didn't see that.

 

He squints. You're right. They'll presumably have noticed too -

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